A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms (Season 1 Episode 2) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #394

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Anthony and Dina, and we
are discussing episode 2 of A

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Night of the Seven Kingdoms.
Listen from the top of the

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episode, I forgot how I forgot
about the gratuitous nudity that

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comes with Game of Thrones
shows.

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Like you think that after the
first episode I was prepared for

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some in my face stuff, but I was
not quite prepared for how in my

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face it got in the top of the
second episode.

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Hey, great.
Game of Thrones has always been

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good about equal opportunity.
That's true.

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That's I will say that about
them.

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They don't care.
That is true.

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But I mean, my goodness, give us
some warning next time.

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Like your warning was his booty,
his booty peeking out the door

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before he turned around.
OK, but here's the thing.

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Seeing his ass was not a bit.
I was like, OK, so they I'm

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literally sitting here thinking
like, OK, so they're going to

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show us a little male frontal
nudity.

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OK, whatever.
When he turned around, I had I

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was like, wait, I was I was not
ready.

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I think that's the best way to I
was not ready.

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I I wasn't, it was just I I
started singing in my head like,

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does your thing hang low?
Doesn't want to.

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Oh.
God, yes, we're going to behave

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like little 12 year olds, right?
Yeah, for sure.

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I just, yeah, I, I was not
expecting that.

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And then it's like, you see this
while Dunk is having his, I

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guess at this point Dunk is
talking to the different Lords

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of the different houses, trying
to get someone to remember him

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so they will vouch for him and
list that had to have been like

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right before he passed because
you see him looking at the

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injury that he has on his arm,
which I was like, he probably

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died from the injury and not
just from whatever coffee

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developed from the rain.
He probably had some kind of

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blood poisoning or something
because that wound was just

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opened and I was like, why are
they not fixing that?

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Why are they not treating that?
Or I don't know, something about

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that whole wound was just it was
it, but.

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Yeah, he probably couldn't,
couldn't.

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He probably couldn't afford the
treatment for it.

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That's true, which is also kind
of sad because when you're

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hearing all of the stuff that
that Dunk is saying about Sir

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Arlen, especially at the top of
this episode, it's kind of like

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this man was honorable.
He was selfless.

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He was, you know, all the things
that that Dunk said about him.

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He look, I actually took notes
this time.

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He said he's a true knight, but
he was different from other men.

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He had peaceful, he had a
peaceful nature.

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He was quiet, he was humble.
He was a veteran of 100 wars,

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enemy to none always knew what
was expected of him.

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He never complained.
He was always a benefit of

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people around him.
And I was like, you would think

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somebody who is of that caliber
would be remembered more.

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And then I thought about what
you said.

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I think you said this in the
last episode, Anthony.

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And then it's kind of sort of
related to what Dunk says

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towards the end of this episode.
He was like, he was this night

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that nobody remembers.
And it's like, you know, this is

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a man who taught me to be
honorable, but all of these

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so-called noble people didn't
even bother to remember who he

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was.
And I think that's so sad.

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I mean, at the end of the day,
he was a hedge.

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Like, I mean, they, they're not
going to commit him to memory.

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I'm sorry I started the episode.
I know, no, I was Chris in the

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background, but I mean, and and
I I get that, but I guess at the

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same time it's kind of like even
the one who who was it?

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Bulbarian because Dundarian,
because Dundarian was like, we

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hired 800 hedge Knights for
that.

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So I'm not going to realize that
he's a.

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House Tyrell, when he went to go
talk to him, he said you were

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the one who told him that the
hedge Knights were the bridge

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between the Lords and the small
folk.

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Something that specific, unless
it's something you're saying to

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everybody you're coming across,
that should at least trigger a

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memory.
And I feel like what Egg said to

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him later, he said it's almost
like they're not really

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listening to you.
It's like they look at Dunk.

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They, they basically they're
making a judgement based on his

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appearance.
They're making a judgement based

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on the way he speaks.
And they're just like, OK, I'm

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not even going to bother with
him.

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And that's probably how they
treated Sir Arlen.

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It's probably how they treat
hedge Knights.

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They don't.
They're not Lords.

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It's not they they're not not
sworn to anybody.

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So what's the point of trying to
remember who they are?

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You don't get anything out of it
other than a sword if you hire

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them.
Yeah.

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So you can reading things that
there.

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Were like higher level people
who they didn't even remember

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that were fighting that same
things.

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So they don't care?
Yeah.

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Right.
Like if you were, if you were a

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Targaryen but you're like 15th
in line, everyone would know who

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you are because you're a
Targaryen.

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But if you're entire real and
you're 15th in line, nobody

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cares.
Nobody cares.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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But I just, you know, I also
wonder if that's the reason why

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Arlen treated Dunk the way he
did.

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Because Dunk continuously says
that Arlen treated him like a

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member of his family, that he
was good to him, that he taught

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him to be an honorable man.
But of course, all of the

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recollections we see of him, it
looks a little more harsh.

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And I wonder if, you know, and I
think Dunk also says towards the

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end, he was like, you know, he
was a hard man to get to know.

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I wonder if maybe he treated
Dunk like that just because he

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wanted Dunk to understand what
to expect as far as how other

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people were going to treat him.
You know what I'm saying?

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Unfortunately, in this world, if
you treat somebody with

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kindness, if you treat them with
respect, obviously it doesn't

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really get you anywhere.
Because like you said, Sir Arlen

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was almost 60 years old.
He had been ahead tonight for so

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long, served all of these
different houses, was noble, was

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honorable.
And nobody remembers him, you

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know, except for the the one
person who did.

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And we'll talk about, we'll talk
about the Targaryens later, but.

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The, the, the thing I think
about sometimes is especially

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with this story is like in the
book, he I think banking was

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maybe 6 or 7 when Sir Arlen
found him.

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They meant that Arlen Sir.
Arlen was almost 50 and had

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never had a squad before and he
probably saw opportunity to

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start and also have someone to
help take care of him because.

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No, he had a Squire.
His nephew was his squad.

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Yeah, but he was killed.
Got killed.

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Yeah, got killed.
But he was, he's probably really

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looking for someone to help
because he knew he was going to.

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He was getting old.
He was going to need help, so he

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couldn't.
We're better than to start with

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this.
He he was probably already big

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for his age.
Yeah, he probably didn't.

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Yeah, he.
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He probably didn't really know
how old he was.

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He.
Had a 14 year old 'cause he was

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18.
Tolerant.

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Yeah, yeah.
'Cause you're in the book.

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He's 611 now and he's supposed
to be 1617. 16 I think he is in

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the book.
He's 611.

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That's crazy.
Now just for him being tall he

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just it seems like he would just
pick on him.

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They just he automatically just
pick on him and say things to

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him like he won't kill.
Like this big old man he looked

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real big strapping and strong
and y'all just talking smack me

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like he won't step on your face.
Right that's the thing I was

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thinking of too.
Like y'all keep talking so

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disrespectful to this guy, like,
and I don't, I don't know if

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it's just that they're looking
at the way he looks in the face

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because if you look at him in
the face, if you look at kind of

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I will even go so far as to say
the way that he stands, the way

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he postures himself, He doesn't
look threatening.

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You know what I'm saying?
So maybe that's the vibe that

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they're getting off of.
He he he doesn't give off a

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threatening vibe.
Yeah, I think that's what Lionel

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Bratting was kind of alluding
to.

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Like you need to carry yourself.
Yeah.

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Like.
Tall, but not only that use your

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presence, you know and and I
think even egg in this in this

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episode he's talking to him he
was like why do you let these

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these Lords treat you like
they're your betters and he was

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like they are my betters and
then he's like I mean he's like

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that.
No, you.

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It's like the mouth.
You need to start acting like a

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knight.
The mountain The mountain was

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nearly 8 feet tall in the book.
No one looked at him or treated

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him like he was stupid.
Right, right.

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The hound was like 6768, no one
treated him like that also.

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His face was messed up but.
Well, yeah, I was going to say

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he the the face kind of, you
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but.
But they carried themselves like

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they were dangerous.
Ran of Tarth.

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She carried herself like she was
dangerous.

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She's.
A knight.

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Baby, Yeah, no one, no one
really.

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I mean, they, they had their
reservations about her, but they

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never say anything really to her
face.

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And then, well, damn, you're
big, you know?

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Yeah, that's a.
Huge.

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That is true.
Two things I wanted to know

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about this episode before we get
into like the the meat and

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potatoes of it.
I'm noticing and I noticed this

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with House of the Dragon Light.
The first episode we didn't get

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an intro, but we got it in the
second episode.

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This one we still don't have an
intro.

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No.
And I'm like, OK, I know they're

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doing things a little different,
but this is, it's weird to me

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that we don't have, we don't
have an intro, we don't have a

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like the theme song.
It's just, I guess it's another

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way that it's kind of saying
it's Game of Thrones, but it's

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not Game of Thrones.
But it's just weird to me.

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Also, I did not realize these
episodes were so short.

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Yeah, they're very short by
comparison.

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Like the first episode I think
was like 40 something minutes.

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And that was I was like, OK,
that's probably average.

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If you if you think about the
fact that usually when we watch

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TV, they have like commercials
or whatever.

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This one was only 34 minutes.
And I know when it got to the

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end and the credit started
rolling, I was like, wait, what

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already?
Yeah, Does this short to anybody

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else?
And then I looked at it and it

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said 34 minutes.
I said wait, so you giving us 6

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episodes that are right around
the half hour, quarter hour

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mark.
I was like y'all could have just

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made this a movie.
I mean, I was thinking about

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that too.
Like they probably, I'll do like

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the season finale, like longer.
Like you know how they would

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stretch out Game of Thrones for
the longer stuff, the longer

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battles.
They might do that, but it is so

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short because I'm just like, I'm
just getting into the flow and

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it's pretty much over, right?
I kind of like it because it has

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like a sitcom feel to it, yeah.
I know so.

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I don't, I don't mind as much,
especially knowing, knowing the

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story, the story pretty quickly
when you're reading it.

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So I like this this sort of
different approach then like the

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House of Dragon where they
stretched, they stretched the

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story as much as they could.
We're here like we're just going

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to give you the story.
We're not going to do any

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stretching.
Like they left out the whole, I

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don't know if they're going to
do it in the next episode.

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They left out the whole
explanation of how the games

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work like they didn't.
They did they?

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I don't, Yeah.
They didn't even explain

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anything about the Champions and
how the challenges work.

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They left.
They just cut all that out.

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Yeah.
You know, the only thing they

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talked about is if you lose, you
lose your arms, your armor and

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all this stuff for the.
Ransom.

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Yeah, you can get it back by
paying a ransom.

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And like, even when I'm thinking
a book, when they ask him, well,

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we can let you win, but if you
lose all your stuff, do you have

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the money to get it back?
They actually they asked him

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that in there too, bar he says
that he doesn't have it or

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whatever.
I think I asked him that in the

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first episode.
I think the master, the master

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of games said something to him
about that.

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So yeah, it's, it's not a
straightforward explanation.

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And maybe just for times sake,
they, they're kind of like, OK,

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if you're, if you're familiar
with the Game of Thrones

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universe, because again, I
don't, I'm not sure that there

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will be a lot of people who will
be watching this if they're not

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familiar with, but you kind of
know what the attorneys are

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like.
And this is just kind of like a

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that on a smaller scale with I
think more participants because

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I don't remember any of the
other attorneys starting out

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with like 10 people.
Amazing at the same.

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Time I was like, what is
happening?

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And and it was like I was trying
to follow it because you have

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all of these people, but of
course they also did not

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introduce us to who each person
was.

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It's kind of like throughout the
two episodes, they're like, oh,

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this person is in the list and
this person is in the list, but

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there's also rounds.
Everybody's not in the same

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round.
So yeah, I think they could have

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done with a little bit more
explanation, but maybe they'll

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do that in the third episode
because I know a lot of a lot of

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the, I should say, big stuff is
probably going to happen in the

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third episode and the fourth
episode.

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So they're probably explain that
once you start kind of maybe

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localizing the the list as far
as like, OK, with this person is

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about to go against this person
and you start to see a little

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bit of the conflicts come in the
personal conflict.

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So maybe they'll do that a
little bit more in the third

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episode.
All I have to say is if anybody

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is starting off with this show
and they have not watched Game

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of Thrones or even House of the
Dragons, don't go back and try

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to watch it now because this
show is going to lead you

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astray.
I just want you to know that.

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The vibe is totally, totally
different, Yeah.

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But I have noticed on social
media, like on, I've been on

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threads a little bit more
lately, there are a lot of

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people who are starting the Game
of Thrones journey for the first

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time right now.
Yeah.

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So I miss those days.
So they're like, they're

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excited.
You know, one person just

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finally got to the Red Wedding
and she was like, what the fuck

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did I watch?
I'm like, oh, welcome to all of

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our trauma.
We have cookies and milk, you

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know.
Oh.

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Yeah, trauma binding, crying and
screaming.

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Oh my.
God, yes.

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But OK, let's get into some of
the other things because we get

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introduced to quite a few
Targaryens in this episode.

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And I literally, like I said, I
did go and make some notes

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because all of the names, first
of all, I need the Targaryens to

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get a little more creative with
the names.

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Because.
Good grief, trying to keep track

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of who is who.
This is this person, this

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person, this person which Aegon
is this which Oh my God.

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So just to go over the the kind
of family tree of the people

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that we've either seen so far or
heard about so far in this

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particular episode.
So right now, this is the rule

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of Daron the second.
Who is Daron the Good?

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He is the son of Aegon the
Second, grandson of Viserys the

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Second.
Who is Damon and Rainier's son.

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And I don't think we're giving
any House of the Dragon spoilers

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away because we knew that Damon
and Rainier had a son named

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Viserys, so.
Well, that that actually does

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kind of spoil who wins between
the greens and the blacks.

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Not necessarily, doesn't.
No, no, because the way that the

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way they go back and forth with
the with the conflicts and

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stuff.
No, I don't.

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I don't think it does at, at at
some point because, because you

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may think one thing about the
green and blacks and then the

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next generation may have done
something to switch The Who, who

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was on the throne or the
generation after that.

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Again, they're on the second.
They're on the good.

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He is Rainier and Damon's
grandson.

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So something could have happened
to change that something

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generation or the next
generation or even in his

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generation.
But we all, we all know a

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Targaryen is going to be on the
throne regardless, at least for

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until Robert gets on the throne.
So how the Targaryens get there?

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I don't think we're spoiling
anything by by saying any of

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that.
I'm just saying, and if you and,

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and let's be honest, if you're
watching the show, you already

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know Targaryen history.
You already know how that

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conflict ended and what happened
after that.

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So I don't think, I don't think
we're being spoilery.

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But I don't think that's even
spoilery because that alludes to

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a linear path and and I don't
think the path is going to be

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that linear.
I don't believe the path is that

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linear.
So I don't think that really is

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spoilery like.
But also, these are Targaryens.

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They need.
To marry.

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So it's kind of, Oh my God,
cousin, brother, uncle, cousin.

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Right, somebody.
Got that up in this episode too.

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So I'm just so I'm just saying,
but so the the two older

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gentlemen that we meet when Sir
Duncan goes to like plead his

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case, that's Baylor Targaryen
and May Car the first, who are

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both sons of Darren the good and
they're brothers.

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Baylor is the oldest May Car is
the is the younger.

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Baylor is the nice 1.
He is the one who like is is

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nice to dunk.
He's the one who remembers Sir

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Arlen.
He's the one who gives dunk.

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You know, his his kind of his
blessing to say, yeah, you can

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answer.
You can answer the list.

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I'm cool with it.
Makar is the one that's a little

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bit more of an asshole.
They kind of remind me of the

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Saris and and Damon.
As far as you have one that's

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very level headed and then the
next one is the more intemperate

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one.
And maybe it's just because, OK,

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first in the line is, you know,
he already knows where his

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position is, he's cool.
And the one that's second in

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line, they're like, I should be
the one that's the air.

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You know, they they give off
that that.

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Always despair acting the fool.
Right.

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I think it's more about despair.
Acting the fool, yeah.

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Yeah.
And then also we meet, well, we

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kind of sort of meet Velar
Targaryen.

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He, we see him in the list.
I don't think we actually

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interact with him or anybody
actually interacts with him.

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We see him in the list.
And Egg is the one who tells

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Dunk, oh, that's who that is.
He's the son of Baylor is.

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Anybody else wondering?
This is how I know the dunk is.

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Seriously, seriously blind and
very naive because why does this

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kid know everybody in Westeros?
We'll get to that because our

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face and he's going.
That's so and so.

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We'll we'll get to that because
because there's some other

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things we got to talk about it
it with that the other Targaryen

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we meet Arian, who is who is
also like he is giving off.

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He's giving up the Sarah's
vibes.

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He's giving off and what Amy
that?

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Amy.
I don't even.

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No, I I thought the same thing,
Dina.

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I was like, oh.
He already, his nose was turned

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up all right.
I was like, oh, no, right,

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right.
So we meet him.

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We meet and what we hear about
Daron and Aegon, those are the

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two sons who were supposed to be
there who are quote UN quote

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missing.
They've not shown up and no one

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knows where they are.
So yes, make our sons.

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So Arian, Daron and Aegon are
all his children, and I think

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those are the only ones that
have been mentioned in this

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particular episode or in the two
episodes.

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So because I know he has other
children, but we haven't heard

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anything about them yet.
So it's just those.

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So I'm going to, I'm going to
put a marker in the show notes.

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This is where we're going to get
into a little bit of spoilery

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territory.
So if you don't want to be

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spoiled or if you don't know
what's going on with this show

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or with these characters, you
may want to kind of hold off.

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And then once we get done
talking about this, I'll

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bookmark that as well so you can
kind of skip this part.

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But going back to what you just
said, Dina, they have given us

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lots of clues in the in the 1st
2 episodes, I think as far as

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Egg's true identity and what you
just said as far as him, all of

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the stuff that he knows and all
of the stuff that he's telling

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Dunk.
Like he like he literally is

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giving me our start with Tyrone
Lannister and like he realized

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she was not a vogue born child
because she was keeping up and

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she was too smart and she was
even more simple.

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The fact that she was saying my
Lord is my Lord be Lord right

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and he up here, my Lords, my
Lord, he proper he got girl.

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What he said, What did he say?
He mentioned something and I

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said I hang out with a little
Flea Bottom, tiny little.

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So how would he know that they
don't know what these up up

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these upper people look like.
They never saw these people,

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like most of those people never
saw a king and queen or any of

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these people to know what they
they look like.

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They might know their name and
they might, you know, have to

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know their history to a certain
degree, but they don't really

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know what these people look
like.

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Right.
In the book they make it even

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more obvious because of the
scene where he's walking around

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with with thinking and he's
naming all of the different

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houses.
He knows all of the sigils.

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He.
Knows all of the Lords, of all

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the houses and their children.
Yeah, it's like really do.

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And not only that, in the books
they make it, they make it a

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point to mention his eye color
because in the books, the

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Targaryens have purple eyes.
And so they make it a point to

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say that Egg on has like
purplish blue eyes.

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But again, I think what they
what they're doing as far as the

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show goes, because in the books,
Dunk automatically assumes that

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Egg is from Flea Bottom.
He doesn't actually say are you

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from Flea Bottom?
So Egg never has to to say, no,

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I'm not in the show.
They actually made him

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specifically say, are you from
Flea Bottom?

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He was like, no.
And then when he said I'll I'll

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take you back home, he said,
well, you have to go all the way

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back to King's Landing.
So it's like you're telling us

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he's from King's Landing, not
necessarily saying he's a

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Targaryen, but you're all you're
already telling us he is a child

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of noble birth, of noble birth.
The other thing about that is if

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you notice the way he reacts
when he sees certain people in

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the episodes, like when he sees
certain Targaryens, like when he

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saw the when the Targaryens
first came in over the bridge

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and he saw the flags, you know,
he was like, maybe maybe I

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should go ahead and take the
horses back to the camp.

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He was like, I don't want to be
around here, all of that.

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But it has to be the head thing
because again, he looks so

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different from what a Targaryen,
quote UN quote should look like

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that even the noble people who
should know who he is, if he is

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one of their Princess, they're
not paying attention to him

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because, you know, they're
looking at his head shaved and

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they're probably thinking, oh,
he's a sickly kid.

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Oh, he's, you know, he's
somebody not of ill important.

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Plus, he's dressed kind of like
a peasant, you know what I'm

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saying?
That.

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But then here's the other thing.
I don't think anybody would have

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gotten it in the first episode.
But once you get in the second

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episode and you start having a
conversation with Baylor and

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Makar, and they're talking about
the two missing sons.

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00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,560
I was like, OK, And then you
mentioned the sons by name,

445
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,600
Daron and Egon.
OK, Egon Egg.

446
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,800
It's easy to make that
connection.

447
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,720
But also if you think about it,
when Dunk was in the end, there

448
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,680
was a drunk Targaryen at the
table totally in his cups,

449
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,640
totally upset or depressed about
something.

450
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,720
And then you hear you hear the
two brothers talking about how

451
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,080
Makar was forcing Darren to
enter in the list.

452
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,120
And he was like, Darren should
not be in the list at all.

453
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,520
You know, you you shouldn't have
forced him.

454
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,040
He's also what you're trying to
say.

455
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,880
Like, my son is better at
drinking whores than he was.

456
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,040
Like, I didn't say that.
But the implication is, yeah,

457
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,440
that's what he is.
But you have that Prince who was

458
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,600
there in the end, drunk, upset,
whatever, whatever.

459
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:32,040
And then in the same end is
where Dunk comes across Egg.

460
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,840
It's too, it's too much of A
coincidence for us not to put it

461
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,920
together.
And then again, you talk about a

462
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,760
he knows all the sigils.
He knows who these people are,

463
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,800
the way that he talks.
What other kid would be sitting

464
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,760
in the field play fighting
Thomas and Gil, your black,

465
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:57,600
black fire bastard, bastard.
Who else would say that?

466
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,520
But The thing is, Dunk is
ignorant of all of that stuff

467
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,720
because he didn't grow up and
Flea Bottom, he didn't grow up

468
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,880
in King's Landing because Sir
Arlen grabbed him, took him,

469
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,720
took him all over the country
with him.

470
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,880
So he I don't think he wouldn't
know to pick up on these types

471
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,880
of things because he probably
has never been around a noble

472
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,160
child.
It to that extent to be like,

473
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,760
oh, he know what he talking
about because he's part of this.

474
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,160
Especially if he was like
Anthony said, as young as six or

475
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,400
seven when he started, you know,
squiring or started being Sir

476
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,000
Arlen's companion, he wouldn't
know.

477
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800
But us, it's almost like you got
a big man.

478
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,800
Like say, hey, we got Aegon
Targaryen.

479
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,480
It's clever.
How they do though, because

480
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,280
remember we were talking about
last time I was like, you know,

481
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,480
it's interesting how he, because
he automatically assumed that

482
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,240
the little boy in the stables
was her son because she said my

483
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,000
son did this and there was a
little boy.

484
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,840
So for him, he just mashed it on
up.

485
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,080
Well, it's a little poor, little
little scallywag boy and then

486
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,920
she's a poor in lady.
And so he never once considered

487
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,760
that the son that wasn't the
son.

488
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,240
Because my thing is this, this
kid ran away from his mom and

489
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,160
you don't think nothing of it?
Right, I think, I think he

490
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,360
wants.
So he did say Egg did tell him

491
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920
that's not my, my mother's dead.
And he was like the innkeeper,

492
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,320
like he was like, that's not
your mother.

493
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,840
They they did have that
conversation.

494
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,480
Conversation.
So yeah.

495
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,800
I think, I think some, I think
maybe, you know, Duncan is

496
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,480
trying to model himself after
Sir Arlen.

497
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,440
So in his mind this is like him
doing for Egg what Arlen did for

498
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920
him.
So and that's all he sees.

499
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,960
He's not seeing anything beyond
that.

500
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,160
Yeah.
Please do not show us his front

501
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,400
next episode at HBO.
Please don't.

502
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,160
He's a big man.
He's a really big man.

503
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:10,680
I just I couldn't handle.
It but but yeah, OK, so.

504
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,440
So I'm not going to touch that
dinner at all.

505
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,960
I'm just not.
OK, so we're going to we're

506
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,240
going to close off the the
spoilery part right here, but

507
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,840
OK, so I want to talk about some
of the other people that we come

508
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,000
into contact with because we've
already talked about the the

509
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,160
different Targaryens.
I I like Baylor.

510
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,760
I feel like he is, you know,
he's of the Targaryen blood, but

511
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,000
again, he kind of takes after
the saris in my mind.

512
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,680
But also, if you think about who
Daron the good is, I mean, they

513
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,560
call him Daron the good.
So he has to be one of the more

514
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,160
temperamental, you know, stabley
temperamental Targaryens.

515
00:30:54,200 --> 00:31:01,680
And then, you know, Makor seems
like he's an asshole, even even

516
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,640
just the way he's he's talking
to Dunk like or the way he's

517
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:12,000
talking to The Who was the Sir
Ashland or I think Lord Ashland.

518
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,360
Lord Ashford.
Yeah, Ashford, the one who's

519
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,880
actually putting on these games,
he he really does have an air of

520
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,880
you guys are beneath me.
I'm just, I'm not about to be

521
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,000
bothered with you.
And even with Duncan speaking to

522
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,400
his brother, he's been very
respectful.

523
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,480
He's being very complimentary.
And of course, Mako is probably

524
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,080
like, I hear this shit all the
time.

525
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,720
I'm so sick of it.
Just just get out.

526
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,600
He already, he already gave you
what you want.

527
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,000
Get out.
Get out.

528
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,320
But it's like him, Arianne.
I already know.

529
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,400
I'm not about to like these two.
Yeah, they're they're about to

530
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,080
be on that, on that Viserys.
Daenerys brothers level.

531
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,280
Like, can you please put a pot
of gold on their head?

532
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,960
Well, I don't know.
They might not be that bad, but

533
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,440
I'm not.
Yeah, I'm not.

534
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,760
I do like, I do like Baylor's
costume design.

535
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,200
He had the dragon thing right
here that you're so used to

536
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,000
seeing with Raniera and
Daenerys.

537
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,040
It was kind of cool.
Yeah.

538
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,360
Prince of Dragonstone, so.
I like him though so far he me

539
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,840
too.
Seems like a stand up guy.

540
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,240
Me too.
I mean, we got to have a couple

541
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,520
of Targaryens that we like.
And then I also like that he's a

542
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,920
dark haired target.
I noticed that.

543
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:39,400
I noticed that I was like,
that's interesting, but I don't

544
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,560
again, I'm only looking at the
show right now.

545
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:48,200
I haven't gone back and dug into
like the history of everything.

546
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,120
Like I know that I know where
his his lineage is, but I'm not

547
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,160
going to talk about it here
because of the fact that, like

548
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,400
Anthony said, we don't know.
We're going to assume that that

549
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,720
the people who are watching the
show and the show only don't

550
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,680
know what the outcome is of, you
know.

551
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,480
The Dancer Dragons.
Team yeah, the big team of the

552
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,640
Dancer Dragons, Team Black
versus Team Green, we just know

553
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,040
he's a Targaryen.
So it it kind of again, doesn't

554
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,200
really matter in in this
particular moment where what

555
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,760
side of the Targaryen line he
came from, because they're all

556
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,200
related anyway, for the most
part.

557
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:40,720
But the other people that that
we meet, you have Sir Roland

558
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:50,480
Craig Hall and Sir Donald of was
the Duskin, who are kings guards

559
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,680
to the Targaryens.
Those are two interesting people

560
00:33:54,680 --> 00:34:01,080
because Sir Roland, he seems
like like he's an asshole, but

561
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,920
he's not Makar or Arian
Targaryen type of asshole.

562
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,880
You know he.
He, he's just there.

563
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,120
He's just there doing his job.
That's it.

564
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,719
And he?
Has a little bit of a snobby

565
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,320
nose, but not enough to the
point where I was like, I don't

566
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,639
like you because the way he even
when he when he talks to Dunk

567
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,920
and Dunk sees them he was like,
you know, Sir, he was like well

568
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,280
met.
You know that's what you you say

569
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,520
that to people that you are not
necessarily disrespectful of but

570
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,760
it's just a polite way to say to
A to another knight or you know

571
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,239
someone like, hey, how you doing
He could have easily been like,

572
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,000
who the hell are you like all
these other people you know are

573
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,639
you are you Baylor Targaryen?
We'll get the fuck out.

574
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,159
He could have he could have
treated him like that.

575
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:52,719
He didn't, you know, But we do
know he does have a little bit

576
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,639
of that chip because when he
says what did he say?

577
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,120
Do you ride your horses or do
your horses ride you?

578
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,160
Sir Donald was like, forgive
him.

579
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,360
He's not used to having to look
up to turn his nose down.

580
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:12,320
I was like, OK, so the fact that
he could say it and and Sir, Sir

581
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,880
Roland didn't even, he didn't
even bat an eye.

582
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,760
He was just like, you know, I'm
just, that's just how I am or

583
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,320
whatever.
I was like, OK, he's going to be

584
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,840
an asshole, but not like talk to
your asshole.

585
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,840
Might be one of those that I can
kind of deal with.

586
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,480
I feel like Sir Donald, I'm
going to like, because he took

587
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,720
the time to actually have a
conversation with Dunk.

588
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,440
He was very respectful in that
conversation.

589
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,920
Because if you notice, most
people are not respectful when

590
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,200
they talk to Dunk, You know,
even even the way that he said

591
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:47,040
you, what did he say?
You don't smell what you don't

592
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:47,960
smell.
House bread.

593
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,440
House bread or something.
I feel like he didn't say it in

594
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,520
a way that was disrespectful.
He was just making a point.

595
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,920
Like, OK, you're a knight, but
you're not one of these kind of

596
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,040
Knights.
You know, grew up in luxury kind

597
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,800
of knight.
Right, right.

598
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,080
That.
And that's, you know what?

599
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,520
That's the other thing going
back to egg, Sir Duncan should

600
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,920
know.
This is a clean boy.

601
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,200
He should know he's not.
Yeah, but.

602
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,800
Oh my God, Adam.
Adam after that first episode,

603
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,400
he he was obsessed with the fact
that they don't have tissue.

604
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:27,080
And when he put an egg on his
shoulders, Adam was like, they

605
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,160
don't have tissue, but he's.
But here's the thing in in those

606
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,400
days and even Sir Roland and Sir
Donald, you kind of hear that

607
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,440
conversation.
I know they used hay to wipe

608
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,760
their ass back then.
I don't know how, I don't know

609
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,320
how well that works or whatever,
but you know.

610
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,680
And if you watch watching the
medieval shows, you always get

611
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,360
that one joke where someone used
Poison Ivy when they're out in

612
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,320
the woods instead of just, you
know, they just pick any leaf

613
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,840
and not realize that they had.
I mean, they, they, they just,

614
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,040
you know, tissue paper was I, I
don't know if.

615
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,160
Tissue.
It wasn't a thing.

616
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,360
Invented yet?
So it wasn't a thing.

617
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,520
I don't think it's crazy to me
that people didn't think that

618
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,640
through.
Yeah, haze, sand, leaves,

619
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,160
whatever.
Yeah, I have a feeling like Egg.

620
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,960
Given who who we think he is or
who we know he is, I feel like

621
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,280
he would probably know how to
clean.

622
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,000
Them right, that's what he yeah,
that's what we were talking.

623
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,640
About but yeah, I mean, that was
because because I you think

624
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,040
about that first episode when
you see Dunk having an upset

625
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,200
stomach for to say it politely,
and then you think about what

626
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,240
his clothes might smell like.
Like even when he was trying to

627
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:49,760
wash his clothes out, he sniffed
and he was like, yeah, he would

628
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,800
just like please tell me this
man is not walking around

629
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,880
smelling like shit trying to
flirt with the puppeteer girl.

630
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,600
Just dude, it's just.
But I was feeling like, you

631
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,040
know, but The thing is like,
yes, people could tell you

632
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:08,640
stank, but everybody stank.
All they did was mostly just put

633
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,840
on perfumes and oils on top of
stank because they didn't just

634
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,760
have ready water typically.
Right, so man.

635
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,800
The horse and the horses were
walking around and they were

636
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,200
pooping everywhere.
Yeah, how's all that?

637
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,280
Yeah, it was just funky back
then.

638
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,040
Yeah, but also, unless you were
somebody like a Targaryen, like,

639
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,480
what was the girl being told
when Dunk got ready to follow

640
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,080
her?
They told her.

641
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,080
They said, hey, you need to go
in there.

642
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,320
The Princess need their hands
washed.

643
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,280
I'm on my way.
Yeah, Mama, wash your hands

644
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,960
like.
But again, a different mindset,

645
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:49,280
different time period.
But you know, going back to Sir

646
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,520
Donald, yeah, the way that he
talked to Dunk, he is almost

647
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,040
like he was talking to Dunk, as
in not necessarily an equal, but

648
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:02,560
he was he treated him like a
person, right, Which you you

649
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,120
notice does not happen to Dunk a
lot like a lot of people dismiss

650
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,560
him just like the little girl.
She was like you're you're big

651
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,400
and you're stupid.
I was like who the hell are you?

652
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:21,160
Like But.
Does he not introduce himself as

653
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,200
Sir Lincoln at all to Sir
Donald?

654
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,240
Because that might have had
something to do with it too.

655
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,760
Like he did claim himself as a
knight, so he would he would

656
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,560
treat him with a little more
respect and difference than he

657
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,400
would anyone else.
But The thing is, other people,

658
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,600
even when he, when he introduces
himself as a knight, they hear

659
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,840
it, but they look at him and
they judge him based on what he

660
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,200
has on.
And I feel like Sir Donald

661
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,960
didn't do that.
No, he didn't.

662
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,240
You know, so that that kind of
endears me to his character a

663
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:59,440
little bit more because
obviously Dunk has the.

664
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,440
I don't even know if I want to
say the stature, but he presents

665
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,720
himself like he's a knight.
You know what I'm saying?

666
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,120
He's very respectful.
He's very honorable, which in

667
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,840
our minds is what nights are
supposed to be like, you know,

668
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,960
and the fact that Sir Donald
kind of still talks to him

669
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,520
regular, you know, gives him his
little history because he asked

670
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,040
him if he's a if he's a Darkling
from.

671
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,760
He kind of gives me that, Sir
Davos, kind of like, I know I'm

672
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,720
from the bottom, but I'm here
and I'm going to treat you with

673
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:44,320
respect because I had the crime
to get to where we at, kind of.

674
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,480
Right, right.
And it's and you know, I also

675
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,840
like the fact that he was
telling him, you know, my family

676
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:56,160
have been cravers because well,
when when he asks Dunk, where

677
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,200
are you from?
He was like nowhere really.

678
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,400
He was like, oh, I know that
place.

679
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,000
I'm from there too.
And then Duncan's like, wait,

680
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,200
are you part of this family?
He was like, no, but he, but my,

681
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:10,320
my family, we've been, we've
been crabbers for generations.

682
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,720
And then later on when he's
talking to Egg and Egg is like,

683
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,200
his father owns half of the
crabbing boats in Westeros.

684
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,000
Don't just like.
Why?

685
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,840
Do you know that?
Not only that, but what?

686
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,480
So his father is big, but he
didn't.

687
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,800
He didn't, he didn't hold that
over dunk or he didn't kind of

688
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,640
use it to, to say, oh, this is
who I am.

689
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:42,120
He he just had a more humble,
you know, perspective about him.

690
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,960
And I just, I like that a little
bit.

691
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,400
You know, it's especially
because I'm, I'm just kind of

692
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,560
I'm sick of people treating dunk
the way that he, you know, the

693
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,880
way that they treat him.
But even with the the armourer,

694
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,640
when he talked to him, the armor
was very straightforward with

695
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,320
him.
And when Dunk just kind of was

696
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,360
like, I can't afford this armor.
I'm just going to put this back.

697
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,200
Thank you for your time.
He was like, he was like, I'm

698
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,600
going to lose money.
But OK, so I can take this.

699
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,360
I can take your old armor.
I can use the metal.

700
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,000
I'll give it to you for, you
know, a reduced price, blah,

701
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,280
blah, blah.
Dunk was like, I only have two

702
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,920
stacks.
OK, this will hold you for a

703
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,240
day.
You just got to figure the rest

704
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,080
out.
I, you know, I was so sad when

705
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,120
Dunk was talking to the horse
and he was like, when I when I

706
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,400
win this, I'm gonna get enough
money to buy you back.

707
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,800
I started tearing up.
I was like, I don't know this

708
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,080
horse like this.
I don't say.

709
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,600
I don't say go get her back.
I'm.

710
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,440
Like, no, I don't know.
I haven't gotten that far in the

711
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,200
story in the book yet.
But, you know, just the fact

712
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,280
that he has that kind of gentle
spirit, like he talks to the

713
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,440
horses like they're people.
Even the Targaryen horse that

714
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,120
kicked the stable hand, you
know, he talked to when he

715
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,960
calmed it down, took it in the
thing and he was just like

716
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,800
having a conversation with it.
I always feel like with, with

717
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,000
people who, and, and this comes
from being an animal person to

718
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,480
people who talk to animals, I
feel like are on a higher plane

719
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,360
of existence than other people,
you know, because if you can get

720
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,280
an animal to trust you, you can
get an animal to calm down where

721
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:23,080
other people can't.
That's something within you, you

722
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,200
know, for for someone that can't
speak and can't give you their

723
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,080
feelings, for them to be able to
trust you like that, to be like,

724
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,680
oh, OK, yeah, I'm a calm down
for him.

725
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,920
That just kind of tells you what
kind of person that person is.

726
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,920
So I'm like, you know, Dunk has
a big heart.

727
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,320
Again, he's honorable.
He's very honest, you know,

728
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,560
which is also a rarity in those
days.

729
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,120
And I just, I just want him to
win at all of this.

730
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,000
I know he's about to go through
some stuff, but I just want him

731
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,240
to win because I, I really want
him.

732
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:03,920
Like at the end of the the
episode, he talks about how, you

733
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,000
know, Sir Arlen was here for
almost 60 years and nobody, you

734
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,080
know, he's done all these good
deeds.

735
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,240
He's done this, he's done that,
and nobody remembers him.

736
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:16,160
He was like, what kind of hedge
might, you know, doesn't have

737
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,080
any victories and is buried in a
shallow grave on the side of the

738
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,880
road?
He was like, what kind of legacy

739
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,520
is that?
He said.

740
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,360
But he took me in.
He treated me like family even

741
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,360
though we weren't.
And he taught me how to be an

742
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,760
honorable man.
And damn it, I'm going to go in

743
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,320
these lists and I'm going to
show he was like, I am his

744
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,440
legacy.
I'm going to show them what what

745
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,680
he made of me.
And I'm just kind of like, yes,

746
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:46,160
yes, that's what I want.
And even the fact that Egg sat

747
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,160
there and listened to him and
was looking at him so serious

748
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,760
because Egg has been just kind
of ripping on him the entire

749
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,600
episode.
I love their camaraderie.

750
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,120
I love the way they go back and
forth.

751
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,240
But he was sitting there
listening like, OK, yeah.

752
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:09,600
I, you know, and, and if you're
the younger brother of an

753
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,360
asshole, I reckon Dunk must be a
breath of fresh air for him.

754
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,120
Oh yeah, you know.
What I'm saying?

755
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:22,040
Definitely, but their their
comedy is is so funny because

756
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,840
when they when they were talking
after the whole thing with the

757
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,640
puppet girl and Dunk was telling
people he was like, do you think

758
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,080
I could be a knight?
You know, people say I'm small

759
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,800
even for my age.
And Dunk, Dunk is sitting there

760
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,440
almost like he's about to latest
story till he was like, yeah, he

761
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,040
was like, you know, people call
me being stupid all the time and

762
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,280
he just stopped and he was like,
and what?

763
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,520
What he's?
Saying he's.

764
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,440
Saying, what did you do about
that?

765
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,080
Right.
That ain't none of your

766
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:53,920
business.
That's mine.

767
00:45:54,520 --> 00:46:02,400
The way he was like that.
Little boy, that little boy.

768
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,840
No, he can act though when I say
listen.

769
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:12,080
These kid actors that are coming
out these days, they are so

770
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,760
phenomenal.
It's like their their instincts

771
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:22,000
for their characters and the
emotions that they can can

772
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,920
portray.
And just like you are holding

773
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,400
your own with a grown ass man,
Sir, you are a.

774
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,560
Tiny little baby.
Right.

775
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,120
That's right there.
Killed me.

776
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,240
I laughed so hard.
Because he was even, the

777
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:43,160
expressions, he was like, like,
what are you talking about?

778
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,200
Like are you even?
Listening to what I'm saying.

779
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,560
I love it.
I, I love this, I, I love this

780
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,640
little companionship.
I, I love the fact that Dunk is

781
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,200
so irritated by him, but also at
the same time, it's like, no,

782
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,200
he's you and a little body.
He just has a little, a little

783
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,280
more mouth.
Because even when, when they're

784
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,760
coming in, before they realize
the Targaryens are there and

785
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,120
Dunk is complaining because he
was like, nobody remembers Sir

786
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,840
Arlen.
Nobody will vouch for me.

787
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,160
He was like, just go in to
listen anyway.

788
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,480
Just tell them fuck them.
He was.

789
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:29,000
Like I thought about that too.
Just just go in there and act

790
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,360
like you freaking night and and
just do it.

791
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,880
And just do it and and what do
you say?

792
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,280
Tell them to fuck themselves.
I said OK, don't.

793
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,840
This should have been your this
should have been your clue.

794
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,760
The egg ain't who he says he is
or that he's more than he

795
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,760
serves.
He is, because he said that was

796
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,080
such confidence.
Yeah.

797
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,520
And uncle's like you're a bit
brazen, no?

798
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,640
He that's the thing.
That's that's the thing that

799
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,800
thinking is missing.
He's missing that confidence.

800
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,160
Yeah, Because if he walked in
there like that, it would be a

801
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,200
totally different story.
Yeah, yeah.

802
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,640
No one would be questioning
questioning him being a knight.

803
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,040
Right.
Yeah, yeah.

804
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:14,400
He's also egg is very
compassionate and very he pays

805
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,640
attention so well because he was
just like when he first told him

806
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,040
to go and he was like, Nah, I'm
staying because you have been

807
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,000
basically going through this
story and like having to

808
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,360
basically re bury your master
over and over again and nobody

809
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,720
knows him.
It's got to like he's like, it's

810
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:31,040
got to be like heartbreaking.
I don't want to leave you.

811
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:36,160
And it's just like this child
has the emotional like, Oh my

812
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,840
gosh, it's right.
Like his range is insane.

813
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,440
And the yeah, the maturity.
Pretty as well so that also

814
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,280
tells you there's more to this
little boy than he is letting on

815
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,040
because you I I'm sorry most of
the kids that we've seen in this

816
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:57,040
particular world Game of Thrones
world, they don't have that kind

817
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:03,600
of that kind of focus and that
kind of maturity even unless

818
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,480
they are raised nobly or they
have gone through some major,

819
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,840
major trauma and they've had to
learn to get over it you know

820
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,680
what I'm saying in order to
survive.

821
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,520
So one of the two with that kid.
But yeah I.

822
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,960
And again, I think this comes to
the way that Dunk was probably

823
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,000
raised by Sir Arlen.
He just.

824
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:29,800
Do you know who else knows you?
You know who else recognizes

825
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,760
Duncan's value?
Oh.

826
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:32,920
So.
Yeah, Yeah.

827
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,080
Yeah, yeah.
Oh.

828
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,760
My God that is my homie.
I hope he does not change

829
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,880
because.
The funny, the funniest thing is

830
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,320
he leaves the tug of one line.
Where you going?

831
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,360
I'm thirsty.
I'm thirsty.

832
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,920
But what did he say?
If we look, if we lose this

833
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,000
game, I'm a drown your first.
But what?

834
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,640
But look how it was genius
though, because what happened

835
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,640
when he left, they didn't have
that strength, so they was

836
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,400
pulling with all they might and
they were winning.

837
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,680
So when he came back, they were
on that level of whatever

838
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,320
pulling he added to that and it
threw them off their Now he did

839
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,120
that.
Also too, because I think in

840
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:17,080
that moment when he left, don't
realize, I think that was when

841
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,240
it clicked for him.
OK, this man told me, if I'm

842
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:22,080
tall, be tall.
It's kind of like be who you

843
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,920
are.
And he was like, wait, I'm the

844
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,400
I'm the biggest motherfucker on
this line.

845
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Why are we losing?
Hold up.

846
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,640
He started digging those heels
in and started pulling and they

847
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,440
started winning.
Pour egg.

848
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,360
He just had to put his.
Legs up on on the right.

849
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,520
Because he couldn't do anything.
And then of course, Lionel's

850
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,560
like, all right, I see what
you're doing.

851
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,120
And he, he slaps dunk on the
butt, kind of like, good job.

852
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,240
And I was like, maybe this is
what he was doing.

853
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,920
He was just kind of like, I need
you to, I need you to feel your

854
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,400
autonomy.
Like I, I really feel like, like

855
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,200
he could have just been being
selfish.

856
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,280
OK, I'm, I'm thirsty, but I
really feel like he put, he put

857
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,080
dunk in there and he left it
like that.

858
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,400
Like look, I need you to realize
your potential.

859
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,680
No, I think he just wanted to.
I think he just wanted to win.

860
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,720
Whatever I'm I'm gonna think.
I'm gonna think nice things

861
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:17,840
about Lionel.
I'm gonna think I love Lionel.

862
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,840
Dunk out.
There's nothing wrong with that.

863
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:20,880
He looked.
He saw.

864
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,320
Oh wait, this dude is not doing
anything.

865
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,280
Come over here, Sir, he's
drinking.

866
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,720
Something it's poor.
He was like what is this pissy

867
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:29,960
form?
Like what is this you are

868
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,560
drinking?
Yeah, if you're going.

869
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:40,000
To have, if Sir Duncan Fatal is
going to have one friend, it's

870
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,560
going to have to be Sir Lionel.
Yeah, there's got to be his

871
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,120
person.
It's got to be.

872
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,520
Got to be.
But I mean, he's had, so he's

873
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:55,920
had Lionel, Lionel Baratheon,
like I said, Sir, Sir Donald of

874
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,800
Dusk and Dale.
And then who was the guy in the

875
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,560
first episode?
So.

876
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,000
Far away, far away.
Yes, the cousin.

877
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,360
Yeah.
So I feel like, OK, he's got.

878
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,960
There were a few people who were
nicer than normal to him.

879
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,320
And and if you count 10 Tenzel.
Yeah.

880
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,520
Yeah, but you know what?
He don't?

881
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,240
He don't want her friendship.
He he want her.

882
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:26,800
He like her and.
When he said to when a guy told

883
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,520
him they had a commonality but
but first he was like y'all are

884
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,520
both gigantic or whatever he
said.

885
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,040
Because, she said she said the
boys used to call her Tamsin too

886
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,920
tall.
Yeah, Tamsin, too tall.

887
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,160
That's it.
In the book she's she's supposed

888
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,320
to be half a head shorter than
him.

889
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,440
So he's 611.
She's supposed to be like 6365.

890
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:54,240
Wow.
Yeah.

891
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,560
Wow.
And then, you know, he he he

892
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,480
says that and he's like, is that
and that.

893
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,400
So that's the thing, like
because he's an older guy

894
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,920
playing a person who's supposed
to be a teenager, kind of he's

895
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,200
definitely, you know, he's, he
doesn't know things.

896
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,600
So when he's asking this child,
wait, is that a thing?

897
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,600
Like, is this a thing?
Is this how we're supposed to be

898
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,640
together?
And he's like, you have some

899
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,800
compatibility, I guess he's
like.

900
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like oh man, he's like from

901
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,840
bottom boards I guess.
The the one thing we don't get,

902
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,000
we get a little bit of it, but
we don't get from the book is a

903
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,440
lot of his internal monologue
and he talks about seeing her

904
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,480
and how she is like the perfect
height for kissing and he.

905
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,760
Almost.
He almost says that too because

906
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,200
when she says something about
her being too tall, he was like.

907
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:49,880
I think.
I think.

908
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,200
Your grade was like, you're the
perfect, you're the perfect

909
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,840
height for it.
And he was, I think in his mind

910
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,280
he was saying you're the perfect
height for me.

911
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,040
But he wasn't going to be so
bold as to say that.

912
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,040
And she was just like, for what
he's.

913
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,560
And Egg is so funny because he's
just looking at him like, wow,

914
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,400
this guy is faltering.
Puppeteers, puppeteering.

915
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,840
Yeah.
He's just like, he's the best

916
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:18,080
wing man ever for Dunk because
Dunk has absolutely no clue what

917
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,520
he's been doing, what he's
doing.

918
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,720
And also, OK, so here's the
other thing with Sir Arlen as

919
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:27,600
far as Dunk goes.
So usually in in Game of

920
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,840
Thrones, you know, lore,
universe, whatever.

921
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:38,040
By dunks age, Sir Arlen should
have already taken him to a

922
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,240
brothel for his first woman.
Yeah.

923
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,160
I think like I think he did.
No, because even in the book,

924
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,240
even in the book I couldn't
remember, says that he's never

925
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:52,200
laying with a woman.
Oh yeah, he does.

926
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:58,680
Yes, so so the fact that Dunk
doesn't even know how to talk to

927
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,760
a woman, it's just it's so it's
so strange.

928
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,640
But then you have egg on the
side.

929
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,720
That's kind of like filling in
the blanks.

930
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,680
And I was like, what's little
boy know about talking to women?

931
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:14,040
That's another clue about this
boy is more than what he seems,

932
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,520
because if he was just a regular
boy who's just been on the run,

933
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,920
he wouldn't have had like like
he won.

934
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,040
He's too young to go to a
brothel to he's too young to

935
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,040
have the coin to go to a
brothel.

936
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,920
Yeah.
I was like, OK, Dunk, Egg is

937
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,560
your he's your wing man.
He's going to help you with this

938
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,520
because it's obviously it's
obvious you got a thing for this

939
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,720
girl and you just don't know
what to do about it.

940
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:43,200
Eggs.
Like, OK, yeah, I'm, I'm hook

941
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,280
you up.
I'm help you out.

942
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,640
Which made it even more funny
when they had that conversation

943
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,800
afterwards.
And Dunk was like, what business

944
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,280
of it is what he's like?
I'm sitting here helping you and

945
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,560
you can't even answer a
question.

946
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:05,440
Help me for a change.
Right, but the other thing about

947
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,840
this episode is the list they
that they actually start that

948
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,360
night.
Why exit the same thing?

949
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,160
Why did this man bite into this
raw fish?

950
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,680
What the like?
Was he a toy?

951
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,240
He was, he was a telly.
He was a telly, right?

952
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:28,560
Yeah.
You know what are they trying to

953
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,360
meet a certain quota for how
many times they can gross aside

954
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,160
in the episode?
I mean, you only gave us 30

955
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,600
minutes and you gave like, what
are y'all doing?

956
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,280
Even egg was like, yeah, the
thing with the fish that was

957
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:46,280
disgusting.
Yeah, the lists are great, but I

958
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,360
I could have done without the
fish that was.

959
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,480
That was too much.
OK, But this is the one thing I

960
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,960
didn't, I didn't catch.
And I did go back, Anthony.

961
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,200
I freeze framed and I rewind.
I was trying to figure this out,

962
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:04,000
but when when they're watching
the list and egg is on Duck's

963
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:09,800
shoulders, there's a moment
after the first, after the first

964
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:17,880
joust where the Squires are
giving everyone their their new

965
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:23,720
lances and and egg looks over at
1.

966
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,320
And I don't think it was I don't
think it was anybody

967
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,680
recognizable.
Like I didn't see a Targaryen

968
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,280
shit.
I think it was somebody in green

969
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,080
and gold and somebody else.
But he was looking at them give

970
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:40,720
this the the spear, and his face
completely changed.

971
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,840
He went from joy to kind of
worry.

972
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,640
And then he started looking at
his wrist like this.

973
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,440
And then he told Duck to put him
down so he could get to the

974
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,840
front.
Do you know what that was about?

975
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,680
Because I was confused it was
because he realized he was so

976
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,720
tiny and how much work they had
to put into it.

977
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,480
I thought he could put into how
small his hands were compared to

978
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,880
because they were all grown and
they are.

979
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,520
Grown.
Yeah, well, his responsibility

980
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,120
would be.
If he like, he could be on his.

981
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,520
Shoulders, I'm a man.
I need to be, you know, and

982
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:18,640
then.
If you watch the.

983
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,120
If you watch going to be
jousting, then he's going to be

984
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,640
the one responsible.
OK, OK, got it.

985
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,480
So have you watched the trailer
for the next episode?

986
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,200
No, I have not.
OK, OK, well it's not a sport,

987
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,760
but there there is a scene where
he's running where Egg is

988
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,280
running with the Lance.
Oh, OK.

989
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,600
So he, he must have, he must
have realized he could do it.

990
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,080
But I think that's, that's what
like being said, that's what he

991
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,080
was worried about.
OK, because I was looking at

992
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,680
that and I was trying to figure
I was like, what is he looking

993
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,480
at?
Because I thought, because at

994
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,520
first I was thinking like, is he
supposed to be in shackles?

995
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,840
Like did he escape from being?
I mean, literally that's what I

996
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,200
thought.
Because I was like, it's so

997
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,840
weird that he looks you look at
your wrist and you do your hands

998
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,600
like this.
And I was like, like, what is

999
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,160
this?
What is this boy's story?

1000
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,320
But OK, that makes a lot more
sense.

1001
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:18,480
That makes a lot more sense.
And then Dunk having his little

1002
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:24,840
panic attack once he sits egg
down and he's thinking about,

1003
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,840
you know, he's watching the
jousting.

1004
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:32,160
And I think the thing that you
saw is like, I think Dunk, in

1005
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,160
his mind, he has a certain idea
of how nights are supposed to

1006
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,160
behave again, because of the way
that Sir Arlen raised him.

1007
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,680
And then you see all these
people during this jobs, Like,

1008
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,720
people have clearly been knocked
off their horse, but you're

1009
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,320
still coming after them with
your lances.

1010
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,760
You're still like, somebody was
about to run over another person

1011
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,920
with their horse.
And he's looking at all of this

1012
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,160
and thinking about, oh, is this
what I'm going to be?

1013
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,600
Expected to do and again then he
starts having the flashbacks

1014
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,520
about the different things that
Sir Arlen did or said and then

1015
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,600
him burying him.
And that's when he came to the

1016
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,720
revelation at the end.
He was like, you know, Sir Arlen

1017
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,640
was this he you know, he was a
hedge knight for 60 years.

1018
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,520
Nobody remembers him and and
what does he have to show for

1019
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,560
he's he's buried in a a shallow
grave.

1020
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,840
He was like, is this, is this
what my destiny is?

1021
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,440
Is this what I'm going to be?
Because if he was such a great

1022
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,640
night and this was his fate.
Yeah.

1023
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,160
What it.
What is my fate?

1024
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,240
And I think, you know, he
panicked about it at first, but

1025
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,720
then that's when he was kind of
like, no, I I'm his legacy.

1026
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,600
I got to show them what this man
was made of.

1027
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,080
Not just for him.
He wants to do it for Sir Arlen.

1028
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,120
You know, like I'll make sure
y'all never forget his name

1029
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,320
again.
Which is like that great, that

1030
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,880
amount of like gratefulness that
he has for this man.

1031
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,720
It's like he sees out his
faults.

1032
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,280
He knows that he wasn't perfect,
but he saved him.

1033
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,640
And he's just going to be like
ever grateful for this man,

1034
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,320
teaching him things and saving
him.

1035
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,200
And it's just like that is so
pure of heart.

1036
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,400
He's so pure.
I love him so much.

1037
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,800
Yep, which is another reason why
I'm like, Dunk is one of those

1038
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,640
characters I will fight for,
right?

1039
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,000
All y'all people being being
mean to him, I'm gonna need

1040
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,840
y'all to get you to come up.
And so I'm gonna need you to

1041
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,520
change your mind.
I'm gonna need you to fix your

1042
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,240
shit real quick, right?
Because it don't take nothing to

1043
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,720
be nice.
This man, what was his Oh, God,

1044
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,920
keep mixing all the names.
Is it Baylor?

1045
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,800
That's the big Prince Doesn't
lie.

1046
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,160
He's a Prince.
He is a Crown Prince.

1047
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,920
And he was just as gentle and
kind and sweet.

1048
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,760
It's it cost nothing to be kind.
Even even when Dunk made the

1049
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,320
faux pas when I was talking
about he said, yeah, I remember.

1050
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,120
I remember jostling against Sir
Arlen.

1051
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,880
We broke 4 lances before before
it ended.

1052
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,840
He was like 7.
He was like, well, you know, I

1053
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,520
know that Tails kind of, you
know, get exaggerated, he said.

1054
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,560
But I assure you it was 4.
He could have easily because

1055
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,400
when Dunk said seven, I
literally did this like, oh, you

1056
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,080
just fucked up.
You just fucked up.

1057
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,640
But the way that he diffused
that situation because even

1058
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:28,120
Makor was like, hold up.
Baylor was like, no, it was

1059
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,440
mistaken.
He was like, but it was it was

1060
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,440
just for I assure you.
Oh, I'm so sorry.

1061
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,800
He was like, no harm was done.
Get rise, get off your knees.

1062
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,120
You don't have to just that
whole again.

1063
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,600
He does remind me a lot of of
the way the saris was, you know,

1064
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:48,920
the saris was the peaceful king,
you know, and and he did get a

1065
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,840
lot done with that kind of stoic
attitude.

1066
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:57,200
And I feel like Baylor, what
what was it that Dunk said that

1067
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,840
Sir Arlen said that, you know,
the the Seven Kingdoms would be

1068
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:06,000
in great hands with rule.
And even that was kind of a faux

1069
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,400
pas because basically you
saying, yeah, so when your daddy

1070
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,080
is dead, you become the king.
You know, again, Dunk doesn't.

1071
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,560
I don't think Dunk understands
these kind of protocols because

1072
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,480
when he talks to Makor, he was
like, I hope your sons are found

1073
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,560
and they're not dead.
He's only going by what the

1074
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,680
other girl said, that apparently
everybody's like, oh, they might

1075
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,760
be dead by now.
He wasn't doing it to be mean.

1076
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,000
He wasn't doing it to be, you
know, stupid.

1077
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,080
He just, he said again, he's
honest to a fault.

1078
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,520
Yeah.
He he basically was like, I hope

1079
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,000
your sons are OK and then
they're safe.

1080
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,520
You know, Yeah, he could have
said it that way, but I hope

1081
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,880
they're not dead.
I mean, that is the hope, right?

1082
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,280
Right.
So, yeah.

1083
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,600
But yeah, Baylor, I I like him
because he, again, he was

1084
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,280
another person who treated Dunk
like a person.

1085
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,800
Yeah, treated him with respect
and it cost him nothing.

1086
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,720
He's still, he's still the
Prince.

1087
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,400
He's still the Crown Prince and
everybody.

1088
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:13,200
'S still respected.
So yeah, I I think I like his

1089
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,320
character, but, you know, he is
a Targaryen.

1090
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,520
We'll see.
I mean we like, I mean I.

1091
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:25,520
Feel like the Sarah's other than
him not choosing to do what he

1092
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,680
said in motion and and not
being, you know, that was his

1093
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,320
flaw.
But he was still a good man all

1094
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,560
the way to the end.
He was just trying to keep the

1095
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,720
peace, you know what I mean?
He wasn't a bad king.

1096
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,160
So it's like hard to imagine
that all the Targaryens aren't

1097
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,680
trash, but then there's some
that are just not.

1098
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,520
Yeah, some of them are.
I mean, think about it, even

1099
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,440
though there, I know there's a
lot of debate about this and,

1100
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,320
you know, I've kind of gone back
and forth, but even with

1101
01:04:55,320 --> 01:05:00,880
Daenerys, Daenerys was a good
person all the way up until

1102
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,440
Cersei cut her best friend's
head off.

1103
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,880
It was like, yeah, I'm gonna
make you.

1104
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,360
I'm gonna make you kneel.
I'm at this point I think

1105
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,480
Daenerys was just kind of like,
OK, you know what?

1106
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,640
I'm done with all this.
I'm done with all this.

1107
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,600
Like they told me to burn it all
down.

1108
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,040
I don't.
Think that was quite what?

1109
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:25,160
She meant Daenerys, but you.
Know we can save this discussion

1110
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,440
for another time, because I will
disagree with you there.

1111
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,120
The nurse has always been that
way from the very beginning.

1112
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,000
No, no, no.
And I'm not, I'm not saying.

1113
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,760
That she.
Didn't have that potential.

1114
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:44,800
But her, her initial heart, she
wanted to stop.

1115
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,400
She wanted to break the wheel.
She wanted to stop the way the

1116
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,040
Targaryens had been doing
things.

1117
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,440
She didn't want to be that same
kind of cruel ruler.

1118
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,960
And I think, I think part of her
nature was that.

1119
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,440
That was.
Part of her I'm.

1120
01:05:58,800 --> 01:05:59,960
A disagreement against it, but
we.

1121
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:01,280
Can.
We can.

1122
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,160
We can do another.
Time, that'll be a different

1123
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,080
conversation, but.
You have this discussion.

1124
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,280
Never thought her personality
was definitely a little

1125
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,480
different and the things she
went through was a little

1126
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,640
different.
Book versus show, Yeah.

1127
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,200
She's more like her dad than she
was in the.

1128
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:21,800
Show.
Yeah, yeah.

1129
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,200
So I think that I think that's
also part like they tried to

1130
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:32,880
create this character that was
always, always the victim,

1131
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,280
always clawed her way out of
something, always somebody's

1132
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,240
coming after her, attacking her
in the show to make people, you

1133
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,600
know, and then they gave her
Dragons of all things to make

1134
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,440
people like her more.
Because when I was reading the

1135
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,520
books, I wasn't really impressed
by Danny that much.

1136
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,200
It wasn't like it was in the in
the show.

1137
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,360
I was saying.
Yeah.

1138
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,720
Yeah, but in the show, even
early on, they gave you clues

1139
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,480
that she was willing to do
whatever it took to get her way.

1140
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,800
Yeah.
So burn people alive.

1141
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,080
That always work for Targaryens.
It worked for.

1142
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,880
Her, I mean, that's how they
conquered Westeros, which they

1143
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,000
need to go on and make that
because I'm excited, although I

1144
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,840
don't know about this, this
brother, sister, love that's

1145
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,640
about to happen, but I'm excited
about the ref.

1146
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,320
Oh, you said about Aegon's
Conquest.

1147
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,160
Brothers, Sisters.
Yeah.

1148
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,200
Sisters.
Yeah, they.

1149
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,600
Had two sister wives, so yeah.
But yeah.

1150
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:40,360
But going going back to Night of
the Seven Kingdoms.

1151
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,920
So yeah, episode 3 that's coming
up.

1152
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:51,560
I'm pretty sure we're going to.
We should see some action with

1153
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:56,560
Dunk there.
There's some things that's going

1154
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,120
to happen in between then.
So I don't know if we're going

1155
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,040
to actually see him do the list
or do any fighting in the third

1156
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,800
episode.
They may wait until the 4th

1157
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,640
episode, but I have a feeling
some big stuff is about to

1158
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,680
happen in episode 3.
And I mean, we only have 6

1159
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:15,240
episodes.
So it's not like they, they have

1160
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,240
room to draw stuff out like you
say, Anthony, they are, they're

1161
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,520
moving very fast-paced.
The story in the book is very

1162
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,479
kind of fast-paced.
There's a lot more description

1163
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,359
in the book.
But again, if you're if you're

1164
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:31,240
kind of familiar with the Game
of Thrones universe, the the

1165
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:35,880
media universe, the TV universe,
then a lot of that stuff that

1166
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,960
they described in the book.
I don't think they have to go

1167
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,439
into the big drawn out
discussions in the show because

1168
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,000
they've been giving us like even
with the description of how the

1169
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,880
list work, even though they're
not giving us the one, you know,

1170
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:55,680
long drawn out explanation,
they're giving us bits and

1171
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,479
pieces here and there, you know,
so I think we'll get all of the

1172
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:05,160
information that we need to get
without it being over done.

1173
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:11,720
And and they're focusing on the
the important stuff, which is I,

1174
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,960
I know is about to happen with
the the Targaryen stuff.

1175
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:22,479
So, yeah.
But did we miss anything?

1176
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,080
I think we got everything
because again, it's the episode

1177
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,359
was only 3434.
Yeah, it wasn't super long.

1178
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,399
One of the things they did talk
about, the Prince did tell him,

1179
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:36,439
was that because he was not
Arlen's natural born son, he

1180
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:41,240
would have to have his own sigil
and his own shield and whatever

1181
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,760
design, whatever.
And I, I think that's

1182
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:48,720
interesting that like he
technically was that man's son.

1183
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,120
They're like, no, you have to be
natural born.

1184
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,600
I'm like.
And who would know?

1185
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,160
He could have just been like,
yeah.

1186
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,240
Yeah.
I was his son, but he's so.

1187
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,000
Honest.
He didn't know the lie, you know

1188
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,640
so.
But also, I think The thing is

1189
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:10,600
too, he makes a point when he's
talking about Sir Arlen in the

1190
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:15,120
beginning, he tells one of the
Lords that he's speaking to that

1191
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:19,640
Sir Arlen never married, never
had children.

1192
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:21,600
Oh yeah, that's.
True.

1193
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:26,880
So it's kind of like, I also
feel like if he would have lied

1194
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,120
and said, yes, that was my
father, enough people would have

1195
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,840
remembered Sir Arlen by that
point to be like, oh, but he

1196
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,280
didn't have no children.
You.

1197
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,000
Know what I'm saying?
I feel like it that would have

1198
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,400
been one of those type things
because people always this,

1199
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:45,520
they're always dismissive of
things that they don't remember

1200
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,760
things until it's something that
may have a direct impact on

1201
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,160
them.
And then all of a sudden all

1202
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,720
your memory is working fine.
You know, like what harm would

1203
01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:00,240
it have been for y'all to be
like, OK, yeah, I remember your

1204
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,760
your master.
You can you can go be in the

1205
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,200
list because of all of y'all
think the way that y'all treat

1206
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,840
him, y'all think he big and
dumb.

1207
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:11,680
Anyway, y'all walking around
half threatening him.

1208
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,480
So you don't think he's going to
be a threat?

1209
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,320
Let's go on the list.
Chances are y'all going to knock

1210
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:17,880
him off his horse and he's going
to be done.

1211
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,400
What harm would that do?
Really.

1212
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,320
Yeah.
You know, but I, I don't know, I

1213
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,920
feel like I don't know, there,
there's something about the way

1214
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,840
that they're treating him.
It's kind of like, yeah, I

1215
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,320
remember this dude, but I'm not
going, I'm not going to give you

1216
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,920
the satisfaction of it.
It's almost like, yeah, I'm

1217
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,240
going to put you in your place.
And I just, I don't like that.

1218
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:45,480
Like what harm would it be for
y'all to let this man fight?

1219
01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:48,240
And the list?
A lot of harm.

1220
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,200
He he could win.
But but I.

1221
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,720
Know and I and I get.
That, and that's why I'm saying

1222
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,800
I feel like that's why they've
been going around, like because

1223
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,400
you're being very specific with
what you're telling these

1224
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,720
people.
House Florence, Sir Arlen served

1225
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,120
in the guard when your father
lost his sight.

1226
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,560
House Hayford, he fought with
you at the he fought with, he

1227
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,080
fought with your brothers at the
Red Grass.

1228
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,080
He lost his nephew in battle.
How's Tyrell?

1229
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:24,440
You were you not your father,
your brother?

1230
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:31,360
You specifically were the one
who told him that hedge Knights

1231
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,160
are the bridge between Lords and
the small folk.

1232
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,920
You told him that.
You mean to tell me that you

1233
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,360
don't remember telling somebody
that?

1234
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,760
Like, that's a very specific
piece of information to tell

1235
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,800
somebody.
And even the way he was looking

1236
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,880
at dumb when he said it, it was
kind of like, yeah, I remember

1237
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,440
that, but I'm not going to admit
to that shit.

1238
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:53,640
Like, y'all are just being
assholes just to be assholes.

1239
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,200
And yeah, it's probably because
you feel like, OK, yeah, this

1240
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,880
guy is big and dumb, but he
could probably beat us.

1241
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,280
Yep, basically.
But had he said something like,

1242
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,200
yes Sir, Arla was my father.
No, he wasn't.

1243
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,960
We know Sir.
Arlene didn't have any chill.

1244
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,400
Well, how?
How do you know that?

1245
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,240
But you didn't remember him when
I told him what he specifically

1246
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,560
did for you?
That's just kind of how I feel

1247
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,520
like they're doing.
Like they know him.

1248
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,160
They just want to be assholes.
They just want to be difficult.

1249
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,120
They don't want to be yeah to
anything or anyone.

1250
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,760
But that's OK, because I hope
Dunk goes out there and beats

1251
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,880
all they ask.
Yeah.

1252
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,880
Even the Targaryens.
I will.

1253
01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:36,000
Say that that, but Baylor.
Oh my God, these names.

1254
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,240
Velar he.
That was he was rocking that

1255
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,720
Targaryen black with the.
Yeah, looking right.

1256
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,760
I was like, OK, I like that.
But you notice it was

1257
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,080
interesting too.
He was brown haired.

1258
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:52,520
Yes, yes, another one.
I was like, look, I know what

1259
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,040
side.
Of the tree you came from.

1260
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:56,840
Yep.
Maybe.

1261
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,080
Maybe there was some Baratheon
mixture.

1262
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,400
Let.
Oh, that's what we should look

1263
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,960
up and see.
It's probably another Baratheon

1264
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,480
because wasn't Emma.
Emma was a Baratheon too, wasn't

1265
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:08,160
she?
Vernier's mom.

1266
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,600
Yes, she was a Baratheon
Targaryen mix, Yes.

1267
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:16,960
And I do know that one.
Yeah.

1268
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,320
Somebody on that, somebody on
one of those trees.

1269
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,280
They married.
They married another Baratheon.

1270
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,080
So yeah.
Well, Robert's Grant, Robert's

1271
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,160
grandmother was Targaryen.
Oh, Yep, Yep.

1272
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:31,120
So.
Yep.

1273
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:36,360
So this is all yeah, Aegon the
First, his half brother was was

1274
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:40,000
a bastard.
Oh yeah, because that's the

1275
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,520
other thing we got to take into
account, like the bastards.

1276
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:47,360
And you know what Anthony was
talking about, you know, with

1277
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:52,040
the, the rebellions, the black
fires and the yeah, they, they

1278
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,200
had masters who were
legitimized.

1279
01:14:54,200 --> 01:15:01,520
So yeah, that's just that that
that family tree is just so

1280
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,840
complicated.
So crazy, So crazy.

1281
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:11,680
And not all of them marry inside
the family, Yeah.

1282
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,320
Yeah.
That's how they were able to.

1283
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:18,640
That's how they were able to to
kind of work there.

1284
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:23,200
Aegon worked out this tree with
Doran was the Prince of Doran

1285
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,600
mayor the Targaryen.
Yeah.

1286
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,760
Princess.
So yeah, whatever.

1287
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:34,720
OK, Brown hair might pop up
considering their ancestors, you

1288
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,400
know.
Yeah, yeah.

1289
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:44,440
Thanks to the nearest.
Yeah, but I don't know, Do you

1290
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:46,840
guys have anything final to say
about this episode?

1291
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:51,720
Wrong Bloodlines.
Yeah, yeah, I'm.

1292
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,160
Just I think.
It was really good for the short

1293
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:56,480
little time we.
Had it?

1294
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,920
Shall we get longer than 34
minutes please like.

1295
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,640
Like I said, I like it.
I like your short.

1296
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,720
I like it like this.
Keep it short to the point it.

1297
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:09,800
I guess it's just.
There isn't a lot of there isn't

1298
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,120
a lot of world building needing
to be done.

1299
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,880
We're in one place.
All the story is taking place in

1300
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,000
this one location that is.
True.

1301
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,560
We just have a few characters
you got to get to know.

1302
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,960
But I think it's, it's because
the pacing does work so well.

1303
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,200
It's like by the time I'm like,
really, really into the episode,

1304
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:32,480
it's it's done.
And it's just it, it's so sudden

1305
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:34,680
and it's just kind of like,
yeah, what?

1306
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,560
Give me more.
But you know, I feel like.

1307
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,560
You can't wait until next week's
episode, right?

1308
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I, I was the same way with

1309
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,440
the Percy Jackson series.
I just finished watching season

1310
01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:50,320
2 of that and like those are
also like 30-30 ish minute

1311
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,480
episodes and I was just kind of
like, wait, we're done.

1312
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,960
What?
So yeah, I mean, I guess I could

1313
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,560
get used to a 30 minute episode.
I just I want more I.

1314
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,560
Is is this season supposed to be
the first novel just period or

1315
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,840
they think so?
It's the first novella, The

1316
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,080
Hedge.
Night, yeah, the hedge night.

1317
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:16,120
So OK, well I guess I'm going to
get off here and go look at the

1318
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:20,080
trailer for episode 3 and
prepare for that.

1319
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,840
But for now, that is it for our
show.

1320
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,680
You can find us online at
www.phantomhybrid.com.

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We are on social media on all
the social media at Phantom

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Hybrid.
You can chat with us on our

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Discord channel, You can watch
our videos on our YouTube

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channel, and you can listen to
us on all major podcast

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streaming platforms.
Thanks for listening.

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We hope you join the
conversation next time.