A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms (Season 1 Episode 3) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #395

0:25 What's up, hybrids? Welcome back to another episode of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast. This is Hanukkah and I'm here with Anthony and Dina, and we are discussing episode 3 of A Night of the Seven Kingdoms from the Game of Thrones universe. And I'm going to start with Dina. Dina, you and your feelings. Oh my God I love this episode so much this. Let me just tell you this baby Dexter saw Ansel. This actor put so much into his role. That like I'm. Literally like drawn in so much that I'm like, this kid is this kid is egg. Like this is egg like he he's acting in the beginning of this episode and just the heart he put into that at the very beginning.

1:16 You know, I just had me like in my feelings and I was emotional because I was like, he really does love Duncan. Like in this short amount of time they have bonded and he really he could tell he wants to please him. He wants to be make him proud and he wants to do right by him. And this little kid is like conveying all this emotion that some grown folks don't even you know, and I was just all in my feelings. So yes, I cried. Don't judge me. I was crying. I probably cried all the way through. Met us. OK, I'll meet our our listeners. We've been first. For how long have you seen me cry over stupid stuff? Yeah, that's normal.

1:57 That's normal. But yeah, this when I tell you this little kid, oh, my God, he is he really? He can hold his own with some grown actors, right? He is so good, his instinct, his timing, his comedic timing, his just, he is so good. And before this, this was obviously the year of the child actors. Because these these actors who are under 18 who are under 13, they have been killing it in these TV shows. You we had welcome to dairy those kids there.

2:42 If you watch the Percy Jackson series, those kids are doing phenomenal. This kid here, this guy here. Oh my God, they are so good. And yes, he had me, like he had me feeling things. I was like, OK, this is this is about to be my baby Targaryen. I'm about to protect him. When that man came up while he was training, I was like, if you touch egg, I'm gonna come through this screen. Right on his little bald head and no hair on his little bald head you touch and no hair on. His little any any but yeah, did I'm loving this show so far. This episode was so good.

3:25 And then it's like to see him be the way he is with Dunk and it's like Dunk is doing. I won't say he's doing his best, but he's I feel like he's treating egg the way that what's his name treated him. So then you also, you also see that he's kind of he's not really comfortable with it because he sees that egg is just really like eggs really seems like he is looking for love, he's looking for acceptance, he's looking for a place to belong. And I think Dunk understands that feeling. So it's like even when he's pushing them away or he's trying to be gruff, he turns around and he's gentle with them.

4:05 He's showing them things they have their they have like their own little shorthand and discussion. Now it's it's such a cute relationship to see. And then that makes it even more so when you get the reveal at the end of who Egg is. And it's kind of like, wow. That's why he's trying to bond so much with Dunk, because if this is where he came from, you definitely are looking for something a little bit more a little more human. I mean, when when your brother is an attorney and and you're screaming kill him and, and you and we as the viewers can figure out who he's talking about. Like, you know, to go ahead and get it out there. Aegon Targaryen, he is the young Aegon Targaryen that's missing, you know, Prince Makar's son.

5:01 And it's like, he's the youngest, Ariana is the oldest. And we see what kind of an asshole Ariana is. Like these these Knights were on the ground and he is still charging them. I was like, oh, you wanted these? You wanted these? Yeah, he is a who. And it's it's a shame when you meet a character and you immediately want them dead. Like you got to, you got to put off some stank energy if I immediately want you dead, the first word out your mouth. That's the, that's the ancestor Viserys took after the Viserys the second. That's the ancestor he took after. Because even the way he said something about, you know, don't, don't anger the dragon or the dragon never lose. I was like, Oh my God, he sounds like Henry Lloyd. It's just, it was so eerie.

5:59 He has a little bit of of aiming in him too, didn't he? Not not even. What was his name? What was What was Akon's brother's name? Damon. Damon, yeah, he has a little bit of aiming in him, too. Yeah, he does. He does that kind of calm arrogance and. An eye for an eye. But I he's, he even seems worse because because with Amen in House of the Dragon, at least we can kind of sort of understand where his anger and where his feelings come from. Because you have this dad who really didn't pay attention to you.

6:44 He only had y'all because he needed airs. You know, he still favored this oldest daughter. There was a lot of divide caused by Viserys marrying said daughter's best friend, procreating with her, all this other stuff. So and a shitty older brother and a shitty older brother who teased you, who bullied you. And then so you can kind of see where AIM is coming from. Now, Ariana, we don't really have any background on him yet except for what we've seen in the last two episodes. We know that he's a Dick. That much is very clear. And nobody likes him because he was talking smack to the good Targaryen's son wasn't a Baylor. Yeah, he was talking smack.

7:29 To him, so they don't even like each other. They don't. I mean your your daddy didn't even come to see you joust. Bro when that seat was empty. And even and even your uncle, who is first in line to the throne, when you take off your helmet to kind of salute him, he's just looking like, OK, like here it is about to. Be something. I was like, dude, if you're not reading the room, like nobody likes you. But that probably contributes to also the way he's acting around everybody because he has to put on that tough air, like, oh OK, nobody likes me, but I'm a Targaryen. I don't care, dude. You care because if you didn't you you wouldn't have been bothered by a stupid little puppet shit. Well, see, that's one of the things that the actor actually brought up when I was saying I watched the actor this time and behind the scenes and the actor said he is, it's during the time where the Targaryens don't have the the country behind them the way they used to.

8:34 And they're kind of in this lull of like people liking them. And so people assume he's an asshole. So if they're going to asshole and be an asshole, he ramps it up because he thinks, well, this is what they expect, you know? And it's just like, but you, you don't have to be that way. You got the power. Like, what else do you want? Yeah, I don't like that. Just he is nasty, nasty work. Right, because again, when when your little brother who we don't even realize it's his brother at the time, or at least people who aren't familiar with the story don't realize that's his brother when he's sitting there watching you in the list and he's yelling kill him, kill him. I was like, oh, if if I wasn't familiar with the story, I would wonder what in the world this thing this brother has done to him.

9:27 But I mean, we'll probably get that back. I mean, next episode. Threatening to cut off his balls so he can marry him as a sister. There is enough right there. Right, let's see. And I'm sure they'll probably put that in the next episode. But it's like to be that cruel to someone who is just because he was born, because the way that is told in the books, Ariana is no, Ariana is not the oldest. Daron is the oldest and then it's Ariana if I'm not mistaken. And then it's Aymond and then it's Agon. That's what Oh, so that that explains that look, that explains why Ariana is is pissed off because he's the spare. He's the.

10:17 Spare and the person who and and the person above him, his brother above him. I mean, we heard the way that his dad and uncle were talking about him in the last episode. He's a drunk, he's a whore monger. He doesn't like to fight. You know, he's basically almost, well, I won't say opposite of what they're looking for because most of the the Princess and the heirs that we've seen, they have been drunks, they have been whoremongers. So he at least fits that part of the description. But he he, no, he, he don't even qualify as a spear 'cause he's like sixth in line. That's. I was just about to say I was just going to. Say he's mad. That's the. Wrong Dad, is what he. He's wearing down the line.

10:57 Yeah, yeah. Prince Andrew. He's down there. Right, which could mean, you know, he just don't like the way the world is set up right now. Yeah, he is the way he is. He's just because. There's always somebody that they can do it better. Yeah. And then like, like you said, Dina, it probably is also that that whole thing of the Targaryens are not favored as much as they were because again, this is years after the Dance of the Dragons. However that ended, we know that it was a you know, we know that there was a a battle Targaryen versus Targaryen.

11:39 So however that came out, we know that that caused a lot of damage. We know that that caused a lot of death. We know that that was the end of the Dragons. So they don't even have that to like, yeah, so you can't even threaten anybody and be like, oh, I'm a sick by dragon on you. What dragon? What dragon? But also this is not that far after the Black Fire rebellion, so that we we just come out of the the nation being torn. Yeah, but but again, for the people who are just show watchers, they wouldn't know anything about this black fire rebellion except the the little it was seeing. It was seeing it was singing a song about it, so. That.

12:27 Song you didn't sing a song about. It. That song was awesome. That song was awesome because every time I thought he was about to curse he went into a different word. And it's so funny because I literally just watched a clip of Dexter talking about they, it was him and the actor playing Lionel Baratheon. And they were talking about using profanity on the show. And Lionel was like, I have to, you know, I had to make sure that he was going to be OK with it. And Dexter was like, I don't like cursing at all. I only do it because it's my job. Oh my gosh. But that that song was hilarious. But yeah, anybody who is not familiar with the story, they they don't have that background. So they wouldn't understand just how contentious that whole thing was.

13:17 Like we if if you paid attention to Game of Thrones a little bit and if you read any of the Dance of Dragons in Fire and Blood, then you would kind of have an understanding of just how contentious it is, especially with like, what was it Season 2 of House of the Dragon when when Damon was at Harrenhal, you had you had these two families that were even then going at each other. I think that was one of the first battles between them, right? Yeah. Yeah. Where they where we saw a whole bunch of them dead on the field. So the what was the Brackens in the? Yeah. Black, black, black.

13:59 Was it black woods and black? Woods yeah. So it's kind of like, I don't know that the Ariana, he's going to be interesting because I do want to see how much of his back story they're going to give us and whether or not like, I know sometimes they try to paint the Targaryens as sympathetic figures and then some of them you just can't do that. Like the saris. The second was horrible from the moment he got on the screen when when Daenerys was stepping out of the tub and he was talking about selling her and he was, you already knew that was a character you were not going to like ever. And that's how I feel about this area, guys like. Yeah.

14:41 And then for him to do the stuff that he was doing, like I said, he's in the list. You got people jousting, missing. I mean, he did this. He moved out of the way. Everybody started booing him like booing. Punk you a punk you a whole. Punk a whole. Punk and I was really surprised after he damaged the other guy his that was his cousin, right? No, he didn't do the cousin. He was taunting the cousins like I won't do. I won't do you today, cousin. You, you and anybody. Yeah. But he the guy was clearly popular. Yeah, because they they were mad. It wasn't. Humphrey. I can't remember who it was. You can't.

15:22 Remember. Who it was but but whoever it was after, after Ariana did what he did, riot. Right. I was like. I'm surprised the person that through that rock. I'm surprised the person that through the Rock didn't get. I know and they. Got a good little hit, too. Did did you? Did you see Prince Baylor? Because even when they started throwing stuff at him, he was just kind of like. Here we go. You deserve what you're getting because you, you just did a, you just did a real asshole move. Like you stuck the Lance in the horse on purpose. On purpose and you know.

16:03 Egg was pitch, Egg was pissed and Dunk was. Dunk was in such disbelief because even when he goes to talk to his friend later he was like, I can't believe Knights are being this like. It's honorable because in his mind, Knights are honorable. They don't fight dirty. Right. And The Who that possibly he was like. He's so green. Why wouldn't why wouldn't you think that? I was like, wow. And it's kind of like you, you see, Dunk really trying to understand like, yeah, this is what I've really gotten myself into. And then? I think that's one of the lessons, one of the lessons he's he's learning, remembering what?

16:46 Because in the book, again, he's like 17 years old, but he's still a little naive now, like everything he knows, he knows from Sir Arlen. And Sir Arlen had painted this glorious picture of, of Knights. And he's learning it's, it's not, it's not like that. No, it it, it really isn't. Right. That's why you don't meet your heroes. No, not in the Game of Thrones universe, definitely. No, no. But I do think it's cool that that we have because, you know, the books are novellas, so they don't. He doesn't really go into great detail, like backgrounds from characters. Pretty much what they do is who they are. So, like, he didn't have to give us any background for Aryan to know why he is what he is.

17:39 We just know he is the way he is. Yeah. Yeah. And as far as like, even in the book that he doesn't go into great detail about the Black Fire rebellion, it just gets mentioned every once in awhile. But it's not like, it's not like you have to go in depth. I was just saying with the political climate, 'cause they don't really talk about the political climate in the book, but that is like the backdrop behind all three stories. That's sort of what's happening in the background. And but we're just getting this microcosm. What's going on in in in Dunk's life? Yeah, yeah.

18:20 But yeah, I mean, I knew it was going to be some trouble when Ariana got on that horse. I knew it. But for him to do what he did and, and, and to sit there like it was nothing, Yeah, just no conscience, no remorse. No. You hurt this man and you killed. Got his horse killed, Yeah. You didn't win. Which is crazy because that's not going to get you to win because somebody's going to be mad and they not go. But, but, but I'm a Targaryen. No one's going to mess with me. Guess what, FAFO?

19:06 He definitely found that out in this episode. What? What? What I found curious is with all these Targaryens, only three things guard came out. Yeah, I noticed that. But I, I. 'Cause I was like the silver clothes. Are coming in and I was like OK we're the rest of silver clothes well. They said his father had left so maybe most of the kings guard would pretend to go try to find Deron and Aegon. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, but I think that I think the show, it was trying a little too hard to conceal Eggs true identity because every time they talked about the brothers, they would mention them by name up until they got to the third and 4th brother. And then it was just the third and then the youngest and then the third and the youngest.

19:57 And I was like y'all, y'all are y'all are trying to hard. We already know that these are two important characters in the Game of Thrones universe just from the way that you're omitting who they are. And I'm in again, Egg, egg on. Who can figure that? Out. Yeah, they they made some. I mean, I'm not one to criticize writing, but they've made some interest. You know what? We need some shots. We need some shots correctly. That big fat lie you just talked about, Anthony? Not criticizing writing. They they made some interesting choices as to leaving stuff out and and making stuff up. Yeah, it not that big of a deal, but it's just why? It was, it was minor, but it was, I feel like it was significant enough to to be just a little irritating because, like, dude, we we can already figure this out the way that y'all have been kind of skirting around the whole thing. Even when you were talking in episode 2 about the missing, you know, the missing boy.

21:06 Yeah. Really. You didn't really name them by name. And I mean, these are Targaryens. It's not like people don't know who they are. It's not like people don't know their name. And I. Think it's also, I guess also too, because I I kind of feel like they're also trying to portray it as as Dunk and how he's seeing everything and we're supposed to see things through Dunk and he's a little dim. And so maybe that's how they're playing it, like he's not noticing that this kid is very proper, that this kid got some damn sense and he's probably smartest kid he ever met in his whole entire. Life.

21:46 And so they're I feel like they're trying to make us see it from dunks point of view, even though it's not specifically his point of view, because like they it is a lot of just stuff because like you can see, like in this episode, when Fossaway walks up to them, he egg immediately start turning and looking away and it's like, well, why would he do that? And Fossil way does not recognize him. But I I think also piggybacking off of what you said, Dana, I think it also kind of shows us the point of view from Egg's point of view too. Because Egg is the youngest of this Targaryen much nobody pays attention to him and it's obvious in the fact that he's sitting right there on the fence, ball in front of your in. Front of.

22:31 Your family and nobody has noticed this kid. And it's not like you're sitting there being quiet. You are screaming, you are yelling. When Ariana is in the list when he's jousting, you're like kill him you to the point where Dunk was looking at him like that. Yeah, because by the end he was. They didn't even see him, and they heard his voice and they knew it. Right. The the guards, so they definitely know, you know, So yeah, it is weird to me, but it's been like that the whole time where I'm like, there's so many people who have definitely been to the castle and seen this kid before. Yeah, but I haven't. No hair ain't enough for me to not recognize the kid, but.

23:13 That just means that that just kind of shows that they don't pay him any attention because he's the former son. It's kind of like you ain't even you're not even in the at this point, you're not even in the line of succession, which is no funny given what the future holds for him. But it's like they don't pay him any attention because they feel like he's not no worthy, which is probably why he was able to kind of get away the way that he was. And I mean, he's literally walking around this whole tourney with with Dunk and like in the books, he covers his face and his head more. He wears the Cape and you know, it just don't just kind of thinks of it as, oh, he's just doing it because maybe he's embarrassed by this, you know, maybe he's sick or whatever. He doesn't really ask him, but he just kind of notices. Oh, he covers his head in his face a lot. They don't do that as much in the show, which makes it even more crazy that nobody has paid him. And, and like I said, I have to believe that that's because they never paid him any attention.

24:19 It's also weird because there's. Not that many kids there, like not that many that they're showing. No, but remember, his hair also makes him stand out too. So if the hair is gone, no one's not really paying attention. But if you have that, that silver, silver hair, yeah. Oh, that's a Targaryen kid. And I think that's the that's, that's The funny thing about even the conversation he was having with Dunk, you know, he talks about, he was like, is it weird that I have black hair down in, you know, in, in my pews area? I was like, I think it's weird that you're asking me about that. But also like, if he was a kid on his own 1, he wouldn't have, he wouldn't know to ask, like he wouldn't have anybody to ask that kind of thing. That's the kind of thing a parent discusses with you or whatever.

25:10 And. Or a maester. Right. And I think they, they brought that out to kind of maybe throw people off the scent because if you're black, you know, the if, if, if the, if the, the, the drapes ain't matching the curtains or vice versa. Maybe he maybe he thought it was weird. Like why is the hair not the same color as the? Hair, right? Maybe. In his mind, as a nine year old, he's like, isn't that weird? Yeah, he's like, I think. It's weird that you're telling me. Right. Yeah. But then it it also, again, I think it goes into that whole thing about Egg and how he's perceived and how he perceives his family and where he fits into it. Because when they're walking and dunk ass and he was like, so you didn't know your father at all.

26:00 And he says no, not really. And I was like, that's a sad commentary because I can see where Makar might not be the the best. He definitely doesn't give daddy of the year vibes. You know, even even when he's talking about them missing, I don't think it's necessarily because he cares about them. His air is missing. Daron is the oldest. He's he's, you know, he's comes after him even though he ain't. He probably won't get on the throne. But you know what I'm saying? It's kind of like he doesn't he doesn't seem very paternal, which could be another reason why Egg just decided to jump shit. Like we don't know why he decided to run away. We know why he cut his hair because when he finally does, you know, is confronted by his brother. He's like, you little rump, what did you do here? He was like, I cut it off because I didn't want to look like you.

27:02 You remember Damon had two almost Co grown ass daughters and. That was just like he didn't exist. Yep, he he cared not. He obviously didn't care about any of them honestly, but definitely not the personals. And see, that's the thing I kind of don't like about House of the Dragon, what they did with Damon as far as his family goes. Because when you read the books, it's very obvious. Like you see, you see hints of it in the show, but in the books it's obvious he did care for Lena, you know, and he was a little bit more, not necessarily hands on with the girls, but you do see a little more interaction with him and his children. And they even did a couple of scenes for the show that they ended up cutting, which I was like. Yeah, like, yeah, like when she died and then some other stuff they cut that was like, why don't? Y'all put the hug on the roof with him and the girls and just yeah, so.

28:08 And and we know that's not always the case with Targa's. Viserys, again with Rainiera, was a very intensive father. He doted on her, you know. But I guess too, when you think about like people, which is sad, but a lot of times parents will treat kids based on how they feel about the parent that they had the kid with, unfortunately. And you know, I think about he loved Emma. He loved her and you know. Even though he was a means to an end, unfortunately. And she was exactly. And so I think that, you know, it just depends on who they're with and what they're looking for and what they're drive their goal.

28:53 Is he he never really wanted to be king, so picking the air wasn't on the top of his list. Was Eris 'cause he didn't even want to be king? It should have been his cousin Rainey's 'cause. She was the bad ass and she was the. Dragon rider that should have been queen. That's all I'm saying. I just want to know. Yeah, don't look at us started on that. Teaching to the choir. Yeah, but you know, she had been queen. We wouldn't have these stories. I know all this wonderful. We wouldn't have any of this awesome stuff. And then we wouldn't have the what is it the the Prince who? The. Prince, who was promised. The Prince who was promised would have the Prince who was promised. Yeah, but yeah, I just oh, this this whole little confrontation when because Ariana goes into the the puppet makers tent, This is, you know, Egg has gone in there to kind of watch the show and they're doing a show where the what's her name? Tamsen Tanzel.

29:57 Tanzel. OK Tamsen is her real name. I think Tanzel is she's pretending to be Prince Ariana and he's fighting a dragon. Of course, you know the Dragons don't exist now, but you know, he's fighting a dragon. And I was looking at it. I was like, OK, maybe I looked at it wrong. I've only seen the episode once. But it looked to me like he was, I don't know, slaying the dragon. Or he was. I don't think he was. I don't think he was supposed to be him though. Yeah, I think, I just think it was just a night in general, just playing a. Dragon because because when he because when he's when she saw him and she stopped, he said something to her about the dragon is never the dragon should never lose.

30:50 All right, I think has something to do with that play because I think even in the book it was like he was mad because he felt like they were mocking him and that's what the guards. Yeah, because he kind. Of justify. He considers himself a dragon, so he thought that was that was. Gotcha. OK. Yeah, that that was an insult to the. Targaryens, because they're, since they call themselves the Dragons, and then this other night from somewhere else was killing the dragon. He took offense to his. But you know what, I would have gotten that if I had seen it a second time. But you know, when when I watched the first time, I just watch it to see the episode and then I go back a second time to kind of get like everything.

31:37 And I just haven't had a chance to do that. So but yeah, that make that makes a lot more sense. But still, it's like his reaction to it. Was a lot. It, it was a lot. It was very over the top because you're in there, you're beating on people, people who are just sitting there enjoying the show. Nobody else is looking at that thinking, oh, you, you mean that dragon to be Aryan Targaryen? But I will say, but I will say they must have known because as soon as he walked in there, they all spread like the Red Sea because they they knew he wasn't going to like it. I feel like they. Did know the same guy who just lanced the horse for no good goddamn reason? They probably were just like, OK, you know what? He already crazy.

32:22 Yeah, but it, it, it's even some sometimes might be a little deeper than that too, because if you listen to Raymond Fosseway, he kind of tells you what the issue is. Because when Aegon's conquest, the Reach was the 1st place to fall, that's where all the that's where the the field of fire or whatever, where all the families were ended and a lot of people were killed. There's a lot of deep rooted hate in the Reach for in some of those areas of the Reach, they don't like the Targaryens. Yeah.

33:03 So that that whole thing where here we are in the Reach where you know some of the black. Well, we don't really know. But with the black fire Rebellion has a lot had a lot of support in the in that region. That could be a problem be down here killing Dragons in a play. You know that that that's kind of hard for for him to. Yeah, she's she's also, they're also her and her uncle. They're from Dorn, so they had to. They never actually like. They never conquered Dorn. So hey, that's another thing that because that's what I was wondering what she's supposed to be a Dornish knight is what I was thinking.

33:44 Yeah. When she stabbed a dragon, but I couldn't really see. It's so dark, I couldn't really see like her. The the armor, Yeah, yeah. And I was trying to see, you know, I don't freeze frame, so I play and I'm trying to see what the shield is. Imaginary. Shots Dina hard to to catch yeah to catch it but yeah, especially Dorn because yeah, like Dennis said, Dorn was never conquered and they they suffered a lot of losses in Dorn trying to conquer that place so. Yeah, yeah. And they they only brought them into the fold by marrying off one of the daughters, right? Yeah, but let me see her. Looks like her.

34:29 Her outfit is kind of grey and it looks like she has on some kind of red armor. That or what? It's supposed to look like a red breastplate. Yeah, that looks like she's supposed to be she. Looks. Yeah, with like a bluish, the sleeves are kind of bluish, like a almost a metallic blue and her pants are kind of blue. So yeah. But yeah, him being mad about that thing and beating up everybody and then he breaks her fingers.

35:10 I was like, oh, and. And Dunk comes in right at that time because you know, Egg has gone to get him. He's like, he's hurting her. He's hurting her. Listen, when Dunk saw him break them fingers, I was like, oh, he about to kill this man. He is about to. Go in he was straight doing that that that straight leg kick in the chest and he. Was listen I again area I fucked around and found out that day because I don't think he was expecting this big tall dude to come in and whoop his ass the way. Nobody. He wasn't expecting nobody to do nothing about it.

35:50 No. It provided me Andre the Giant and The Princess Bride. He's. Yes, yes, yes. Oh my God. But he just take him off the stage. I was just like. Yes. How did he just not get killed cause four of them to contain him? Yeah. I was just like, oh, but I was like, this is not good. This is not good. This is not good. Like, I've read the book. I know he doesn't get killed right here, but still, it's kind of like this is not. Yeah, like my heart was racing. My heart was racing. Wow, that whole MC had my heart. He was like me, say you look, you've loosened one of my teeth, so we're going to loosen several of yours. When he put his mouth down on that foot, I was just like, I don't want to watch this.

36:44 Because that I had an American History X flashback. Oh my God, that is what I found out and I was the same way when I watched it. Oh my. God, that seems like me. I was and it's it's on that part of my background now, because he's he's fighting, he's trying to he's trying to get off from that. Here comes egg. Don't touch him those. Guards went immediately. They were like. They were holding on to him, but they turn their. Head, they know. They know their master's voice, right? He was like. 'Cause you know, it's crazy, the older brother told you to do this and the younger brother comes in and tells you to stop and you stop. I was like, oh, they definitely know his voice. They definitely know who he is.

37:35 That part. That part because Dunk. And he called them by name too. Yeah, Dunk, Dunk has no idea. He's like, boy, if you don't shut up. He was like, no, he said, 'cause if they don't stop, they don't have to deal with my father. Wait, Yorkel, get off him. You ain't say nothing but looking. Around like the fuck is going on. Oh that hurt my heart so bad though, because he. Was. Looking at egg with the little Oh my God, and that's another time I just bust out in tears because I was like. But the way Ed was looking at his brother, he was not scared. He was not backing down. He was like, brother, I cut my hair because I didn't want to look like you. And his asset didn't change until he look and saw Dunk's face.

38:23 And then you saw like, like, Oh, no, I'm so like, you can oh, a poor baby. Well, he had to do it to save him. He did. That's it. He stood up to that old. Rat. But it's about to be some, but it's it's about to be some mess now because yeah, everybody thinks that this kid ran off and he's been walking around with Dunk now, even though he's obviously been freely walking around like Dunk has not. Improving him or slaved him out or no. Right. But you know they're going to twist that because what? What else is there to say? A Targaryen voluntarily left y'all. Right.

39:06 With his lack of luxury, right? I mean, Oh yeah, that hurt my heart. Because he was he was trying so hard. Like the beginning of the episode started out with him with the horse. He's trying to talk to the horse. And he was like, look, we have to do our jobs or else he's not going to win. And he has to win. He was like, so I got to learn how to carry this Lance. You got to, you got to learn how to charge. And at first the horse is like, and everything starts like, OK, yeah, I'll do it. And I love that because you see how much this means to him, the fact that you are a Targaryen, but you would rather be a Squire for this broke ass knight who has been named to you, who has insulted you.

39:57 But you're just kind of like, yeah, this is my person. I'm going. To He wants to see and he wants to see and he wants to see the world. Yeah, I think he legit wants to be a knight. Yeah. Yeah, because he he's not, he's not going to be king. Right. And I mean, it's similar to it was, it was similar to Bran. Bran wanted to be a knight because he knew he he wasn't. Going to be the. Heir No, he wasn't, because you have all you have Rob in front of you and yeah, yeah, he just knew and it's the same thing. He did the opposite of what Jamie did because Jamie's like, I don't want it, I want Cersei.

40:40 I want my sister. I'm doing that Targaryen life, right? Yeah, no. He was just like, I don't want to be a part of this. I after the tourney, can I still serve as your Squire? Can I be your Squire? And I was. Just so so I I did some research on on who are the youngest characters to be knighted because you know, Duncan 16 same mean to be a knight. So at 16, Migor Targaryen was 9816. Barristan Selmy was 98. 16 Yeah, I do remember that about Barristan, yes.

41:24 Yeah. He lived real old too, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah, he lived for a while. Aris Targaryen was 9816. OK. Jamie. OK, Jamie. Jamie Lannister was not there. Yeah, 15. Was he was very young, yeah. And Damon Blackfyre? Nope. The bastard. He was not there at 12. Wow, no wonder he was rowdy about. Yeah, he he, he must have been a bad ass. I was going to say, is that the same Damon Blackfyre from House of the Dragon season 2? No, that was a.

42:06 That was a bracken. I think Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, the one. Who was the one who basically? Yeah, that was. OK, OK. Yeah, Damon, Black Fire is the reason why there was a Black Fire rebellion. Yeah, because he was. He was. He was given. He was his dad on the deathbed, gave him his legitimized Timor. OK. I think you live due to Miles all his bastards and y'all have at it. He was like, you know, it reminded me of Stardust. Have you ever seen Stardust? He wanted all and he wanted all his sons to fight for the king. Oh my goodness. He said. He said I'm going to be in heaven watching y'all like Michael Jackson with this popcorn we going to see. I hate it all y'all.

42:53 You know, I feel like at some point when when you do something like that, I feel like it's because as a Targaryen, you are tired of Targaryen bullshit. You like you know what may the best man win and if there's none of y'all, maybe Osby ever in your favor because why? Because it was what, like maybe 5 or 6 bastards that he. Legitimates I I want to say he didn't like his legitimate kids. I mean, and that's. Usually how it goes, right? Because they're spoiled. They're, you know. They they got bad attitudes because that's what that gene pool is a little muddy, so.

43:37 Girl, I think he, I think he thought he probably thought Damon was going to win anyway and he'd be able to work out for him. Yeah. But he'll keep some horrors from Flea Bottom, whatever that place is called. You know. I and remember imagine how bad it was considering. Remember when Raniera asked for all the bastard Targaryen people and it's like 200? Cousins. Cousins. Yeah. Yeah. So you can. Only. Imagine Targaryen. Come, you got a little speck of white hair. Come on. Right. Well, I tell you, the doggone Targaryens.

44:19 But yeah, again, I love the show. The 30 minute thing is throwing me off even, especially because this was more drama than sitcom in in this one. Like you still have a little back and forth between Dunkin Egg and and and I love it. But yeah, especially when you get to that particular point. And I was like, as soon as Egg said brother, I said they about to cut this goddamn episode off because you literally just dropped the bomb right there. Brother. I cut my hair because I did not want to look like you. I was like, y'all go make us wait. Thankfully not a week because Super Bowl is next Sunday, so they're airing the episode on Friday instead of Sunday. Oh.

45:12 They've never done that. Oh, that's. Cool. Yeah, they've done it. They've done it early. Oh. I can't remember what show but they've they've done. I think The Walking Dead was one of the shows that did something. Aired early. They aired on a Friday because the Super Bowl was Sunday, but yeah. We didn't talk about the prophecy. Oh, we, we, we, we can talk about the prophecy. But like I said, I only watched the episode once. So I didn't get I didn't got it down because I was at look, I was at work on my phone during my lunch break because I was like, I don't know if anything NSFW was going to show up.

45:56 So I was like, I'm not watching this on my laptop. So I'm sitting, am I in my office like this watching the episode? And I was like, I need some time to jot some stuff down, and I just didn't have time. But OK, so Anthony, let's talk about this prophecy because it was a good one that he's going to become king and he's going to die in a fire and people are going to be happy about him dying. Got a good? Prophecy. Wow, now I just meant like it was some like some teeth. It was some teeth. He was spilling some. Teeth. That's what I mean by. Good. Why would she say that? Bruh, Bruh, you know what's crazy? Is he standing?

46:41 Wait, why would she say that? He's like I'm the 16th. In line I'm not going. To. Be king he's. Like do you know how many Targamians have to die for me to be king? And Duncan's just laughing because he was he's thinking she's just telling him some some stuff. Well, because you're. Going to be richer than the Lannister. Yeah, right. OK. That's what she messed up. Right, she should have told him, the king saying 1st and then told him. Yeah, yeah. But you know, like I know briefly, I know a little bit about how egg and dunks story ends, but I don't know all the details about it. So I so the fact that the fact that she said people will be glad that you have died, I was like. No, I'm a little, I'm a little worried. Because that makes me feel she.

47:39 Didn't say she didn't say which people she said people would be. That is true. That is true. People always got enemies, even if they're good people. That is true. They didn't say it was people. OK, that makes me feel a little bit better because I was like if he's going the Daenerys route I'm going to be so hurt because y'all are not about to make me fall in love with another Targaryen just to pull the rug from up under me and make him evil and and whatever. I just know. Well, if well, we, we don't know how far along. Well, according to the producers, this is going to be a 20 year series, which, you know, that's not going. To happen? No way. No. We're we're not in danger of seeing the end of dunking an egg, but you know.

48:26 I I love the enthusiasm, but. The optimism. There's only three novellas that talk about Egg and Dunk. You're talking about five years for each story. You're you're literally going from the start of their friendship all the way to when they die again, I don't know when they die. I don't know if if Aegon, you know, is is young when he becomes king. I don't know if he's old like becerras that's 15 years. That's a lot and. But but you know, thanks to George RR Martin, we know pieces of their story after the novellas. Yeah.

49:11 So, and we know enough. But I don't know if we know 15 like 15 literal years. It's not like he was talking about going they can stretch. It out, they can stretch it out. They've done it before, yeah, but. But we see how that worked out too. You see how that works out, like if the if there is enough story there, if you're interweaving other stories in there, if you're going to talk about the 500 million black fire rebellions, OK, maybe if you're going to like if you're going to bring in and and talk about Master Amen and his because I'm going to tell you now. I was really offended when they when fossil wave was like the third.

49:55 The third one is so useless. They're about to ship him off to the Citadel. Excuse me Sir, that is Mesa Amy you are talking about. Hey, they could do, they could do a whole. At some point he has to go to Tarth and impregnate somebody there. So you could do a whole season. 15 years. A whole season, Tarth. Let's see if you're. Doing if they keep it good like this then OK and if they only doing 30 minutes every season. HBO going to give them Game of Thrones money for a. 100 years you.

50:36 Mean Netflix and. You're talking about doing, We're talking about doing an animated show about the Sea snakes adventures. I saw another went off idea that they're talking about doing, I think for Nymeria's travels. I saw another one that they're supposed to be doing about Aria and what happens to her. That's what I've been waiting on. If they don't have Dragons and or Targaryens Dragons and or Targaryens, it's not going to happen. Let me tell you that now. I think the Aria thing might just because it's something new and they can because here's the thing, Dragons may not exist in Westeros any anymore. We don't know what's in other parts of the world. What is it that that Arya says?

51:25 She says what's West of Westeros and John is like nobody knows but but Drogon. Ain't did it that too, Drogon Ain't did. That too. I don't know who would be the dragon rider unless John come back from the from the north. But you know. It's a Targaryen bastards walking around. I mean, you know, I, I'm one of those people. I, I kind of feel like, you know, Drogon took took any body, huh? To Valeria. Yeah, to Volantis. Was it Volantis and Valeria?

52:11 No, I think. I think he took her body to where the the red priestesses are. They were talking about. That's what, a lot. Yeah. And, and and, you know, the red priestesses probably brought her back. I mean, I wouldn't be mad at it, but. Well, it's got to be some descendants of Valyria walking around. It's so somewhere. Yeah, somewhere. Got to be, got to be. And then there's a whole bunch of just other besides Targaryens that were there, so maybe some of them got away before it burned to hell. Yeah, you know. And then Baratheons walking around. They're descendants of Targaryens.

52:52 And let's not forget Tyrion Lannister. Mighty close to to one of them Dragons and I have my own theory theory about Tyrion but. Yeah, so. I mean, it's it's not like it can't happen. And like you said, Drogon is out there somewhere. We don't know what's West of Westeros. There could be Dragons in other parts of the world that they've never explored. And them Dragons is like we heard this all crazy folks. We're not coming on that side. It's like what? So it was Essos, Westeros, Southern Los and what are something something levels?

53:32 It's no, it's like other continents like Westeros. There's another continent. And then there's a whole other one like it's, it's like 4 of them that are just, you know, and that's yeah, I'm not. There. But then there's the whole like there's, there's a whole part of the map that like Aria says, nobody's been over there, so we don't know what's there. So I'm going to go see. I'm pretty sure there's some stuff over there. So I mean, I guess they can stretch it for 15 years, but I also don't want it to get to the point where they give us the story and they're stretching it to the point where it feels like it's dragging. You know, it's because, I mean, if you think about it, even though, yes, this is part his fault or whatever, there are five Game of Thrones full size novels out there. Eight seasons from 5 novels.

54:34 You're talking about 15 seasons from three novellas. Yeah, and, and whatever you score. And whatever whatever else George Arvard has soon out there about these characters, there's not in the novellas, because remember, we have the whole world world of this is the. Yeah, like he's, he's like. Compendium. Yeah, I can't remember what it's called. I got it around here somewhere. I have AI have a digital copy of it. I don't have a hard copy of it. But yeah. Me either. There's probably some. I haven't read all the Fire and Blood, but I'm sure there's some stuff in there. Yeah, I mean, there's stuff in the books about some of these characters, you know, We'll see. It was like I, I love reading the books, but then it started being like, it started reminding me of being being in Bible study where you just had to be like, and he begat so and so and they begat so and so and they begat so and so and they begat so and so and they.

55:33 Begat so and so? Aegon the 1st and Aegon the second and Aegon the 3rd and Aegon that's Aegon is what? Aegon the 5th, right? Because Jon? Because Jon Snow was the 6th. Yeah. Yeah, they. Took his name, which they finally realized this name might be cursed. Doggone, what's her face? Leanna Stark didn't understand what she was doing. She should have picked something else. Listen. Since we were B Lord. Yeah. Day Ron. Choose day Ron. Yeah, you kind of got to 5050 chance with that.

56:14 I mean, you could have, you could have even named him after the saris, the good. That's true. That is true. Because this would have been. The Harris would have been bad either because. The saris the second was still a child child then. So he hadn't. As far as we know, he hadn't developed that old stank ass personality stress. Well-being in In Exile made him like that. Yeah, no, no, your daddy made him. Because people were people were hyping his ass up. One day you going to be king because we going to go back and take what's ours and they hyping him. Up, yeah, but that cruelty, the the cruelty within him, that's not something you, that's something you are born with.

56:58 I mean, that might be true too. But I do think that it doesn't help that you're constantly thinking you got to go avenge your family, you know, and you got to go do this thing. This is it's incumbent upon you to to like get revenge for your whole Targaryen family that people did wrong and you got to take over and you got this power that's just waiting on you. And people are like, yeah, you, you, you. And then you got people like here sell your sister so you can get army. Like what? Wow, come on. It's like it it, it was like he he was predisposed and he just kind of helped it along. Yeah, but Jaharis would wouldn't have been a bad name either.

57:39 Yeah, Jaharis would have been. Good. Yeah, Jaharis, the third, maybe third of his name. Yeah, but Jaharis wasn't a Jaharis the wasn't that the baby that got beheaded by Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad. Well, he didn't have time to be a bad person. Being a Targaryen is a tough life. I don't know. Yeah. Oh. Man, I'll. Never get that expectations, you know? Yeah, but they just, they don't need, well, I guess the target, technically speaking, the Targaryen line is done as far as like actual Targaryen bastards.

58:20 Might have had some bastards out there and so so wherever they. Were at wait wait, you said they're I mean, what do you mean by them? Like you still have John Snow walking? Around. And you don't think he ain't up there spreading the love, but they. Weren't. There, listen, that man had one woman one time, and he held a torch for her. For you, don't. Know. To Danny. To Danny. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I don't think, I don't recall him being with anybody else after.

59:02 Oh God, I lost. It agreed. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. So. And then, of course, we know what happened with Danny. John probably was at that point. He was like, you know what? I'm over, too. I'm done. I'm done. Come. On How about we just. Have it done Single, Yeah, but John was probably done. I'm gonna throw Gendry. I think Gendry's great grandmother was Targaryen so. Yeah. But that that's so far back that that Targaryen line is just, it's diluted, it's. It. Is it's pretty diluted I think by Gendry, yeah, at that point. I think like.

59:43 But we got, we got John, John's walking around, so. Yeah, he's straight Regal or Ray Ragar. Ragar. He got that Rhaegar juice, but oh, you know what we didn't talk about? We didn't talk about the night, the crazy night that talked to himself and and and and has people in his head that came to. Talk the egg. Yeah, I wonder if he's coming back again, because it was kind of strange how he just popped up and then was like, Deuces, are you? Talking about the one at the beginning, he was like at the beginning. We, we don't know him. I'm sorry, who was we? Who are you?

1:00:27 You talking about the one with the eye patch? And he was like, yeah. Yeah, and he knew who he was. And after he thought about it, he knew exactly who he was. He's like we, we, He stole it, we. We don't know him. Sir, I'm sorry, I don't. I don't quite see who the we are in this situation. He reminded me of Oh my God, what, what movie or what show was that? There was a there was a character who talked about himself as we Oh my goodness, I can't remember. Was it in? Was it in the Wheel of Time? Are you talking about cursed? First, Yeah, yes, yes, yeah, yes.

1:01:10 You know exactly what? Confused about himself as as the king and the throne, I mean, and himself we. Yeah, yeah. We are displeased with what you have done. Yes, that's what he reminded me of. But yeah, he it was like he just, he just showed about the blue and then he just left. But you know, he, he reminded me of Barrett Dondarian. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I thought too. Very much of him. Served the warrior and he was and I was just like, I wonder, I feel like you know how like they were there. You know there's going to obviously be something coming up, right? Like I feel.

1:01:51 Like, and then he's like, yeah, I mean, he's like, because he's like, you're the mad, mad knight, right? He's like, well, when madness is required. Madness and brand, man, we said. Madness is brought. Brought. No, he said Broughton, but something like that. Listen, I think I need you to go have some madness over there to Ariana Targaryen, OK? Crazy boy. We need to go kill Ariana Targaryen. OK, so here is the here's the other thing I think we miss talking about Old dude, the Game Master. Oh yeah, coming to dunk.

1:02:32 And I was like, yeah, this is about to be dunks. Education that everybody ain't honorable. Also he could, he literally could have just played dunk. He could have just been like, he could have just had the boy come challenge Dunk and then just throw the damn match. But he should have known Dunk was so honorable and so naive that he would not want to do that. But see, I see. I think they understand the naive part. I don't think they really understand how honorable Dunk is. Like, you've seen it. Yes. But they think that he's so simple and they know that he's walking around broke. He's he's walking around like he's standing under the trees. They're looking at him and they're expecting. Oh, OK.

1:03:19 Yeah, he's honorable. But I mean, think about it, most people get corrupted by money as even honorable people, honest people, when they are down and out and in dire straits and someone offers you the world, most people would at least consider it, right? Yeah. No, I don't do it yet. Would it would it take the Beyonc�� say everybody has a price? Everybody has a Oh my God, that is so an old that yeah, you're, you're telling our age now for real. But yeah, so I I think, I think he was very surprised that Dunk didn't immediately take him up on the comfort he was, he kept looking at Dunk like this is a no brainer, like you do this.

1:04:03 You are going to be a champion. You'll get his armor, you'll get his shield, like you'll be set. Is that what you want? And the fact? That I'm not asking you to do anything you weren't already wanting to do anyway. But the fact that you came and asked him to do it, it's kind of like, I can go out there and say, yeah, I can challenge this dude, I can beat his ass. But when you're telling me that you want me to do it for such a no that that's coming with some conditions. And it's like the fact that you are being so Nikki with the way that you're asking him to do it because you think that he's stupid enough that he's just not going to ask questions. He's not going to contemplate it. But you don't know the way that Dunk is looking at the mechanics of how all of this is working.

1:04:50 And Dunk is like, this ain't what Sir Arlen told me knighthood was. These are some. Honest, dishonorable people. Yeah, don't, don't give Duncan, don't give Duncan too much credit. He he just like he wants to win, but he wants to win fairly. Yeah. And I think that's as I think that's pretty much as simple as it gets for him. He's not thinking about any of the other stuff. It's just, yeah, I do want to win, but I don't want to. I want to win fairly. Like that's an honorable thing to. Do well, he said. I want to earn it. That's it. Yeah. And you saying, OK, well, yeah, well, you can go fight this person and we can make sure you went. Because I, I caught myself doing, I was thinking, well, maybe he's thinking maybe I'm being set up. Maybe they want me to pick him so I can lose. And I started thinking, wait a second, I'm I'm, I'm giving him too much credit.

1:05:47 Yeah, that I don't think. Yeah, yeah. I I don't think he's that. Sophisticated. Yeah. Yeah, that's not use intelligent, sophisticated. Not that savvy, but he definitely is. He's not an idiot, but he's just not savvy about the ways of the world. And I just, I think if, oh boy, I really wanted that to be the case, he shouldn't have said anything. And he should have just he, he might have, would have hinted that this person wanted to challenge him because they wanted a real challenge and steered him along the way. And then he would have beat the man and moved on, right. But like, the fact that he came and talked to him, I was just like, that was really dumb. He is so so he is not going to go for that guy. Because if he had gone to him and be like, look, you're in it now, you've seen the list a couple of times. I really, really think you might have a chance if you choose such and such, right?

1:06:51 You know, this, I'm just, I'm just throwing it out there. Yeah. You don't really want to pick Aaron. You don't want to pick, you know, at. Least not for your brother. Mcgrathian, pick him. You might have a shot. I've seen him. He ain't that great, you know what I'm saying? You have to. You have to kind of. Yeah, exactly. You have to sell the products. Yeah, sell the products. You just can't go there. Pick him, he's going to take a fall. You win. I. Got a little something something we going to do on the side? No, don't do that. That's too complicated. You got to make it simple. Now it doesn't matter because Ducks life just got real complicated. Yep.

1:07:32 Turned all upside down. Listen, you know, it just it's funny too, because it makes me think of like how many times Tyrion should have been murked on Game of Thrones for for messing up with Danny and then he kept giving him chances and kept giving him chances and kept. I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, ma'am. You should have fried his ass with with Barris, probably even before that. And anytime he chose them crazy twins, brother and sister, he is, you should have fried his ass like any like. So I just feel like y'all giving people the fact that they gave him, they giving dunk a chance to like to like do whatever he's going to end up doing and he ends up, you know, I just feel like that's what y'all doing too much. Y'all doing too much.

1:08:20 Just y'all going to murder people, Just going and murder them. Yeah, but Egg said. What we not going to do? What we not going to do? What we're not going to do. You know, and who knows he he was just, what's his name was just going to break her fingers. Well, he wasn't going to do any more than that. He was just teaching, trying to teach her a lesson, and he was going to kill her. That was cruel. It was cruel. You already destroyed her property. It was then you going to hurt her. She didn't hurt anybody. She. Didn't and I think and I think her father was dead because he was laying down on the ground and she and someone was over him and I don't think he was moving. You think your father, the book of Father, was in the dragon?

1:09:04 Yes, I. Think I actually think he might be dead. Yeah, I'm. Actually, I'm pretty saying. Because I feel like I need to now that we going to have 15 years of this. Yeah. I mean, it's, and it's a, it's not a, it's not a bad read. It's in. Yeah. It's bad. Yeah, and I actually, I found my copy Goodwill brand new, like when I opened, when I opened the book, the spine was still tight. Oh yeah, that's somebody who loves books and they read it and they were just like, pass it on. So I'm going to probably do audio book though because I don't have I don't have patience to hold a book anymore. Audio book is actually fun because Harry Lloyd who was Viserys the second, he narrates the audio book. Oh yes, I think I remember each of that. Yeah, and it goes fast.

1:10:09 Like I think each one is like, well that's it, 12 hours for. Each of the rest of that. Yeah, they're not. They're not long at all. No, they're not. I think I did all three of them in maybe a week in audio book. Yeah, so, but OK, secrets out now egg is. Egg. Gone egg on Targaryen the 5th. So this is about to get interested. Oh, that was the other thing about that whole thing. When Fossil Way was talking to Dunk and he was talking about Makar's sons, I was kind of surprised that Dunk didn't put together that the Targaryen who he saw in the end was.

1:10:57 Still. Still. And then from that thought, he should have been like, oh, if that was Daron, then this might be Aegon. But again, Dunk may not even know the ages of the Suns. He wouldn't know that Daron is older than Arian, but he wouldn't necessarily know how old young Aegon is, right? You know, so but yeah, that that was kind of weird to me, too. I was like, come on, Dunk, I need you to put this together. I need you to put this together. Like missing target. And as thick as a castle wall. Oh yeah, OK, we we look, we're going to see how thick it is 'cause you bout to get that skull thumped a little bit, I think.

1:11:49 But you know, I'm sure Aegon is going to find a way to save him. But if you saw the the previews for the next episode, it looks like they are going to put him on trial probably. And again, probably for kidnapping Egg. Because they're not going to tell everybody. Oh yeah, the young Prince ran away. They're not going to do that. They got to save face. So they're going to take the one person that everybody remembers because he sticks out like a sore thumb, and they're going to try to make an example of them. And it looks like they're going to do something called a trial by 7.

1:12:30 And even Makar was like, what's what's that? I was like, how do you not know what this is? But that tells me that practice is, whatever that is, that practice. Is. Probably been long like they haven't done it in a while. So it's going to be interesting because in in the preview, he is looking for other nights that will fight for him because apparently the, what the, the trial by 7 is, is the accused has to find six other nights to fight with him. They fight as a group against the seven accuser, the the wrong party, whatever. And I think in the books, they say if the if the defendant or if the accused wins, then that is their signal that that's what they say signifies that the guys are like, OK, he's innocent, we're going to let him go.

1:13:30 They give him a horse, they give him whatever. And they said they let him go on his way. But if he dies, then in their eyes, that's the God's judgement on them. I was like. Oh, these guys like. Witch trials. Yeah. This should be fun. Because everything is stupid enough to take one-on-one combat with this dude. This dude just knocked your teeth loose with a couple of punches. You you don't want that smoke. He did a, he did a Rick. James on Dave Chappelle kick from dead in his chest, cross the room and then slung him. That shit was funny.

1:14:15 He's a tough dude. He took that punch. He did. Take. That he took the punch and he took the kick, yeah. But he's, again, he's probably had practice. Nobody likes him. I'm sure he's gotten into his his share of Fair fights. Probably with his cousins, yes, absolutely. I can't imagine him. His brother's fighting him, but his cousins probably. I'm sure Velar leaked him. Like yeah, you can pick me if you want to bring it. Yeah, 'cause he held his own when he was jousting, so he ain't no fun. No he's not, but I guess we'll see how how this happens.

1:15:03 I will say this from the little preview it is weird seeing Egg in full Targaryen regalia. I know you go too. He's so cute, but it was so strange. Like his face and his head were clean and he's standing up straight and tall. I was just like, yeah, Dunk. You should have guessed that this little kid was something more than what he was. But yeah, we gonna see. But I'm so worried about Dunk because I haven't gotten to that part in the books yet. So we're right about where I've stopped in the books. Like I know that I think in the books I've gotten to where Dunk has started going around to try to find 6 combatants to fight with him, but that's it.

1:15:59 So from this episode out, it's completely new territory for me. So I'm excited to see what they do, but I'm also very, very worried because I mean, Dunk, I, I understand. I feel your pain. I feel your anger. But dude, you punch the Targaryen Prince, even if you win this trial by combat, this trial by 7, you have to know somebody's not going to let that go that easily. And I don't know. Arie's not going to let that go. Well, I mean, technically speaking, if Dunk wins the trial by 7, Ariel might be dead. So I I don't know, but I just.

1:16:47 Punk ass Dragons. Punk Ass Dragon will always lose. Yeah, Dana, that's right. But yeah. So I'm, I'm excited to see what was about to happen, but I'm a little worried too. So I just, but I need now that Aegon has kind of revealed who he is, 1. I need him to not get in trouble. And two I just I I need him to make sure that his knight comes out of this. Maybe not unscathed, but at least alive. I need him. Alive. Well, we we can, we can worry a little bit, but there are two more novellas. Yeah, and and and but. She can do a lot of damage and still leave someone alive.

1:17:29 And the witch said, you know, think it's going to be richer than the Lannister and Egon's going to be king. So. Yeah, but you know what? If I was if I was egg and I heard that prophecy that I'm going to be king, but that I'm going to die in a fire, I I'd be like, you know what? I'm a go take the black and know about his life. Did we did. We forgot about Darren. Was it Darren? He he said he dreamed about Lincoln. Yeah, we mentioned that. Yeah, we mentioned that in the.

1:18:10 Oh yeah. He said that he dreamed about him and he told him he stayed up. He stayed up, fuck away from me, ain't got no bother. So that that's not a good sign either. OK, what? Is he done all all we know in order for Aegon to become king A. Lot of people got to. Die some shit out of talking. He's got to die. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That is very true. Oh well, I guess we're going to see. It's no coincidence all these target games in one place. You know, I thought about that too. I thought about that. I was like, that's a lot of heirs and spares to the heirs and spares to the spares to the heirs in one place.

1:18:57 Well, well, in the book, I think, I don't know if I mentioned this in While We Were On, was that Brendan Rivers is the Hand of the King in the book, not Baylor, because in the first episode, Oh yeah. And now it's Baylor's hand. Yeah. I think his thing is the hand for the hand of the king. But again, there's little changes they made because, you know, in the book the two things Duncan always says are, you know, sorry, I wasn't always said I had a, you know, head is thick as a capsule wall. And then Brenda Rivers has 1000 Ravens everywhere.

1:19:42 Spies. So one not my theory 1 theory is that all this whole thing was set up by Brendan Rivers, but not to kill the Targaryens, but to find out who was loyal to the Targaryens because they're still trying to root out some of the rebels from the Black Fire Rebellion. OK. That's one of those things in the background. OK. But three eyed Raven three eyed. OK he was, that's what I was about to say. Is he three eyed Raven? OK that's OK, that's what I thought. Been so long I have to go back and rewatch GLT so I can remember. I think they just changed it because I'm I'm pretty sure they're not trying to have all that politically intriguing the background.

1:20:33 This is simplifying the story. They they probably will in the second season, maybe. Well, if he's planning on lasting 15 years, he better put some political intrigue in him. Yeah. Otherwise, are we watching Saturday night sitcom? You got rid of it when you got rid of Brendan Rivers being. The hand. Yeah, the Hand of the King, You took all of that out. Well, you, you know how sometimes these shows they take, they take stuff out where it usually happens in the story and then they bring it back in later on and kind of rewrite the history. So it's possible that. Because the the tournament, the tournament where where Liana was chosen as as the most beautiful one radar one that was actually supposed to be them getting together to figure out how to overthrow King Aries, but he ended up showing up there and it threw everything off. OK.

1:21:37 Because he was. Probably like y'all talking about me, I'm showing you. Something I want to say, I want to say it was Tywin, it was some, I think it may have been Ty, someone told him. It was probably his old shady butt. He was his hand, so it probably was. Him. It was Tywin. Tywin and and threw it all because they were trying to figure out how to get rigor on the throne. Well, Atlanta says ain't. Shit, and they contributed to his paranoia. Yeah, Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, that. But so all these these attorneys, because remember Ashford, I don't think they had Ashford had never really put on one before. And so it was kind of in the book, it was kind of a surprise that he was doing this and they couldn't figure out, well, why are you doing this and bankrupting? Himself in the process.

1:22:31 Right, because he kind of got pushed to do it, Suggested to by Brendan Rivers. Which is also because, like what the what maker was like, why, why did the king make us come here anyway? Like, what if, why are we here? You know, 'cause that lets you know that they wouldn't ordinarily be doing. This right? Not all of them, like, right, all of them. Yeah. Yeah. In one place. Right. Yeah. Baby, baby, all the way up to the drunken. Oldest the only one that's not there is the one that you about to send send off to the citadel because y'all say he ain't birthday he's.

1:23:20 Useless. He's useless. Poor Mr. Amy. Whatever. Yeah, he outlived all day and right, So right. And died warm in his bed, warm in his. Well, maybe not warm, but he died. It's bad, but you know. The reason I know he came back alive, like I mean he did die at the wall. Oh, no, they, they, they probably burned him because by that point they knew the White Walkers were were back. That's true. They were burning everybody. So they probably like, yeah, well, we. Probably was like burn. Me, yeah. Like, I, I don't want this life. Just take care of it.

1:24:03 Yeah. So. OK, so we're already halfway through the season. We only have three more episodes left. You guys have any final thoughts on this episode? I think it's amazing how it's a 31 minute, 35 minute and we can still manage to talk over an hour and a half about the content because it's so meaty. It's so much happening, just like if it was an hour. And it's crazy that that's, you know, that Doctor R Martin, he he's got, he's a talented man. I just wish he had for this damn book. But you know, he's talented. He's I just hope he doesn't abandoned this if they do keep going because I, I already heard that he kind of didn't like the whole poop scene in the first episode. He didn't think it was like, why did you put that in there? And he could see the the point of it. And I'm like, I don't want no little swaps like that to make him be like, I don't want to be a part of this. And you know.

1:25:04 And they've done two more poop scenes in this one episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is the succession with it? They did 2 in this episode. No, they did. The horse, yeah, when when Aegon was scraping, when he was doing the wood, that's what Dunk was doing in the background. Oh. OK, singing his little. Song yeah, OK yeah, you're right. Because I was like, do we really need to see the horse like? Tell you what though, I, I I would rather watch this 1000 times than watch a woman have babies on Game of Thrones because. Or a House of the Dragon because that scarred me, honey. Oh my God.

1:25:47 Like there's some natural things I don't need to see. And on that note, that is it for our show. You can find us online at www.phantomhybrid.com. We are on social media on all the social media at Phantom Hybrid. You can chat with us on our Discord channel. You can watch our videos on our YouTube channel, and you can listen to us on all major podcast streaming platforms. Thanks for listening. We hope you join the conversation next time.