A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms )Season 1 Episode 4) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #396

0:25 What's up, hybrids? Welcome back to another episode of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast. This is Hanukkah, and I am here with Anthony and Dina, and we are talking about episode 4 of A Night of the Seven Kingdoms. Yeah, these episodes are getting so good. They're getting so good. I was hyped with this episode. Yes, I was like. Just we had some good moments. But I will start this off by saying this, I don't like to see Egg in his official capacity of it as a Targaryen because he seems so diminished and so small and so not him. You know, we've had this, we've had this bright, courageous, outspoken young kid for the first 3 episodes. And then from the moment he walks into the dungeon in his Targaryen guard, first of all, it he looks out of place because you see Targaryens you used to silver hair. He has no hair.

1:31 It it looks the the outfit almost looks like it's too big for him. It just he doesn't feel like egg and I don't like it. I thought he looked cute, but I do agree that he's so filled with sadness and fear that he didn't really have when he was freer, and that's very sad. He really seems like he does not like being a Targaryen. I mean, why would he though? Well, he looked like he was restrained, you know, like he's chained now. But I'll tell you that opening scene, the two of them, I'm not going to lie it, it was breaking me.

2:13 It was the way he was just trying to explain and thinking like not wanting to hear it. And you can just hear and see the pain in both their faces and even, you know, reading the book it I had sort of the same feeling it it was very hard or very tough for them to have this conversation. Yeah, I haven't. Gotten they had such a good, they had such a good relationship and it's like now it's not. But you know, the other thing about it is it's so strange because if you really think about the conversation and what they're having, and when Egg says to him, he was like, I didn't mean to lie.

2:55 And if you really think back, he didn't, He never said that he was the stable boy. That was Dunk's assumption. He just never corrected him. He never. Corrected him, yeah. Because all he was trying to do is he was trying to get to the tourney. Like he said, Darren was supposed to be the the night he was supposed to fight in the list. He was supposed to Squire for Darren. But he what did he say? Darren is a shit knight and he's a he didn't want to go to the list. He just thought that we would hide at the end until the tourney was over. Ed was just trying to get to the tourney. He's trying to be a Squire. And you know, when Dunk is sitting there kind of being mean to him, like, I understand Dunk is upset, but you were the one who made assumptions. Yeah.

3:43 You know, he was like, well, there. I wasn't there. I was the one who told me you were the stable boy. Well, technically speaking, neither did Eggs. Yeah. In in the books, you get, you get Dunk's internal thoughts and, you know, other than him thinking himself over, over again, my head is as thick as a castle wall. You know, he he started piercing little bits together. Like he really, he was like, I should have known. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because even when he like even when he said something simple, like he was like, I've never heard of a Prince Egg. He was like, it's short for Aegon. You know Dunk had to sit there and be like with duh, but. You know what's funny too about like when he told him, you know, that he didn't mean, you know, to lie or whatever.

4:31 And, and Dunk was just like basically that he he, he, he, I forget how he phrased it, but he phrased it where he was basically like you, you did what you did because you wanted a certain outcome basically. And so you lied because you knew you weren't going to get the outcome without, you know, basically lying. And I just thought about how, you know, we talked about how Dunk is, is kind of simple in a lot of ways, but he also what he he has an understanding of how some some people operate because he understands that, you know, it is, it's a formal line, it's omission. He understands that. And the way he talks to him and I, I, even though he's mad at him, I feel like he was also trying to like teach him a lesson and like he's, he's never stopped trying to be that person to, to egg in this scene.

5:24 And even though he's so mad at him, but he you could tell he just, it was breaking his heart to be even mad at this boy And but. I think, I think what he said was if you didn't think it was wrong, you wouldn't have lied. You wouldn't have lied. Yeah, that's what it was. That's what. It was then he tells him to wipe his tears. So yeah, you're right. He's still trying to teach him. You still got to be strong. You got to, Yeah. You can't be crying, you know, you messed up. So we just going to move on from here and you know, I'm going to die, but you know. It's going to be OK. It's going to be OK. Yeah, I might get my head locked off, but it's going to be OK. Yeah, but I mean, I, I kind of feel like you don't probably also like you said, Dina, compared to everybody else, he seems like a simple person. But one thing about Dunk that I've noticed, he's very observant when it comes to people and their honor and how people behave.

6:23 Like he really pays attention to that. And I think in that scene, even though he is angry, he does understand the egg meant no harm. You know, just like he he says the Prince Baylor later, he's like, OK, you know, the boy meant no harm. I understand that now. But also at the same time, it's kind of like you got to think that Dunk is wondering, like, how bad are these Targaryens that you would lie about being a stable boy rather than say that you are a Targaryen, that you were sitting there wishing and yelling for your brother to be killed during an entertainment. How bad can things be for you to go to that extreme? You know, so I but.

7:13 Baylor also tells him one need not do harm, right? Not mean to do harm or harm to have. For, for harm to be done. Yeah. Yeah. Because even even when they do go in front of Baylor, the way the egg is, he's so formal, you know, even when he's talking to his uncle. And his uncle was like he said, yeah, when he saw Aryan hurting the girl, he should have come to me. And he was like, but Sir, there was no time. Where is the little boy who would have been like, that was you, you, you get what I'm saying? He's just so he's so restrained and he's so formal and it's so, it's so weird to see him like that.

7:56 It's kind of like he's a caged dragon in a sense, you know? He's he's back and he's also back to being a cupbearer because I'm sure he is his cupbearer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was one of those things that you clearly know that Dunk has never seen because when he tells him to pour dunks and wine, Dunk is like what he's like, Are you telling him to do this? Like, ain't no serpents about, like, what are you doing? But it's just like how we talked about in with Arya and Tywin. You learn things by being a cupbearer because you're in the room with the people making a decision. So it's a very important role. Even Rainier, remember, Rainier actually was the cupbearer too. So it's like one of those.

8:39 But for him, he probably didn't realize like, that is a position of like, you know, this is where you need to be when you're learning. Yeah, and, and why would he? Because he's been on the road this whole time. He's never grown up in the castles or around, you know, the the higher born. So he wouldn't have any reason to know that. But I think also for him to see that it probably struck him like, oh, OK, so he's a Prince, but he's still like, you know, one thing that he always that the egg talks about is the fact that, you know, he's small for his age. He gets picked on because he's small. And even in this, even in this exchange with Prince Baylor, like Prince Baylor, one thing about him, he seems to be one of the better Targaryens.

9:27 He's never disrespectful. He never really talks down to Egg, but he does admonish him in a way to let him know, look, what you did had serious consequences. You may not have meant harm, but now this man is in trouble, you know, and, and and to add on to that, Dunk has also been painted as a kidnapper because Darren, once his father found him in the end, basically said, oh, I don't know where Egg is. Some big robber took him, not knowing that his brother was actually with the guy he saw in the end. So you just complicated things a little bit more. I'm not being up front about who you were.

10:10 Even. And even if even if what had happened in the last episode had not happened and Mako had found Daron, he would have said the same thing. Would have said the same. Thing Thinking would still be in the same situation whether or not he hit Ariel. He would. He would still be possibly up for getting his head lopped off. And it would have been worse because Egg would have been with him walking around and they would have walked up on him with Egg. That's just proof that all the proof they needed, you know? Because obviously they don't pay attention to context clues because it's not like he's been like, you know, had had egg cuffed or, you know, bonded or whatever.

10:59 I mean, Egg has been running around being his Squire, sitting on top of his head at the list, cheering with him, eating with him. So, but they wouldn't have paid attention to that. They would have just looked at it like they would have been trying to save face because oh, you're a Targaryen and you ran away. Oh, we can't tell people that because then people are going to wonder why would a Prince of the realm run away from his family? Oh, we can't. We can't bring that kind of scrutiny on the Targaryen. As you know, people are already at this point, I'm sort of jaded with them. They don't have the Dragons, you know, and and some of them, like Arian are just basically walking around strutting and and trying to use his name to make him seem important.

11:50 You know, it's just like they wouldn't have paid attention. They would have been like, oh, yeah, we've been seeing him running around very freely with this man. But oh, if you say he kidnapped him, then we're going to believe he kidnapped him. No questions asked. Really. Which is crazy because, you know, as we find out later, Aaron still gets punished. So what's the point of all the other stuff if you still, you should have just told the truth. I lost him or he went away, you know? But, you know, I think part of the reason why Deron was probably punished as well is because of the fact that, OK, if you had just showed your ass up at the list like you were supposed to, none of this would have happened. But you know, I, I made a comment the other day and it was, it was that these Targaryens are interesting bunch, you know, because one thing you learn about them, there are no like really good or really bad or they're not all one thing.

12:49 Like they are mixed bag. You have, you have, you have these brothers who are from the same parents with you, you know, Arian, Daron and Egg, all totally different. Daron, I can kind of understand why he may be the way he is, because if he's a seer, if he has the sight, he ain't trying to have those visions. They would explain himself medicating too. You know, and he's probably like, he probably feels like also he has his burden. He's the first born son, you know, of his dads and it just might be a, a little too much pressure for him, for him.

13:33 I don't know. Arianne is the second son and I, I don't know what's with these second sons and, and this Targaryen family. They, they tend to have some issues. And then, you know, you haven't seen Amon. He's not. He's not here. We haven't, but I mean, we've heard enough. We've heard like 1 little description of his character. He's so useless that they were going to ship him off to the Citadel. So we know he's not violent in the way the Ariana is. And then you have AG, who is the sweetest, Like, yeah, it's just I I just feel like Daron is one of those people.

14:16 Like, he may not be completely good, but obviously he's protective of his baby brother. I mean, he went so far as to shave eggs head so that they could hide, you know, and that could have been, yes, to save his skin, but also for his brother. You know, you hear about how cruel Ariana has been to him. He's like, yeah, when I was, when I was a little kid, he used to come into my room every night and put his knife between my legs and say that maybe one day he'll make me a girl so he can marry me. Excuse me? You know, So I don't know, I guess. Yeah.

15:01 Darren, he, he got punished probably for running off in the first place, But now you have all of this drama going on. And it's so interesting because when we first meet the brothers, Baylor and and Micah, I was like, Micah must be the, the, the mean brother. The the brother. I'm not going to like, I can't really say that I don't like him because he just seems to be so fed up with everything. And that's his personality. It's not like he's mean on purpose. It's not like, like even with the first episode when we meet him, he was like, you know, I forgot what happened. Oh, they were finding out that his sons were missing. He was like, fuck me.

15:49 And Baylor was like, don't cuss the gay master. He was like, I'm not cussing him out. I said fuck me, not fuck him, you. Know. He's looking at his son. He's looking at his son's like he just oh, I just don't get it. Listen, just don't get it. He's like he's just done. He's he He. Is he's looking at Ariel well before before we even get to that part. We got when Dunk goes to talk to to Baylor and they're having a conversation about what he did and the consequences. You know, one of the things, things that Dunk keeps saying is, you know, I was just protecting the innocent.

16:31 That's what that's what good nights are supposed to do. Isn't that what you would have done? And Baylor is like, yeah, but I'm a Prince of the realm, like. I got power. I can do that kind of thing. You you touch the blood of the dragon that that's a whole different thing, you know? But he seems to be trying to help Dunk out because, again, this is a man who I feel like it's just unfair. You, you saw that from their first interaction. So he's like, so how well can you fight? And you wonder why he's asking the question. And then in the next scene, you see what happens is Dunk asked for a trial by combat. And the way Baylor count and nods his head, very suddenly, it's like, OK, he suggested that because he figured Ariana was not going to want to fight dunk one-on-one.

17:23 I was like, OK, that's smart. Then Ariana opens up and he was like, OK, well, if he has the right to declare trial by combat, I want to try by 7. And you see the three Baylor and the other guys, that's. Right. They're sitting there like oh shit and Makar is so cool it seems like What the fuck is the job by? 7 He's so, so bothered by everybody. Well, also, how is it that your son knows what this is but you don't? But you know what I feel like? Also, Makar is probably a more peaceful brother.

18:07 Ariana seems like he is like he's testing everything. He's trying everything. He just he I don't know, he's got anger, he's arrogant, narcissist, whatever. He just he got to put all his shit out there and I just his dad was looking at him like what is this I kind? Of get like that feeling of like how like Damon and and Versaris and Versaris is kind of the thinker and kind of the OK, let's think this through thing. And Damon was like, no, let's go kick ass. Let's just go do it. I feel like maker is that person like send me to battle. Don't be giving me this book learning stuff. I don't care nothing about these these grooves from back in the day. And then I want to learn that stuff. Give me my sword and let's go do what we got to do. And that's why he, you know, he looked at his son and he's like, so you just ain't going to fight this man. Go on and kill him what you're doing. And he's like, because, you know, in his mind he just would have went and fought and been done with it. Yeah.

19:05 But he looked at his son like I know you ain't, I know you ain't. Are you punking out? Really. You hide it behind A6000 year old rule run over by somebody else. It ain't even us. You scared, you scared and everyone is like. He's like, no, I'm just scared, no. He said. But he did wrong to Deron too, so he needs to answer for both of his crimes. There was the only reason why he was able to to ask for that trial myself if he wasn't for Deron. You know he didn't want to get kicked in the face again. And when he's sitting there cracking those nuts and and just being irritating, you can see Mecca's like, why is this my child?

19:51 Why? Why? And then as soon as they explain what the rules are to Duncan that he's going to have to find six other men to fight for him. When man car walked off and he grabbed he grabbed there he was like, come here. I was like, he about to go spank him. That's what it felt like. Yeah. But that when they had that conversation and they were telling Dunk. Yeah, tried by 7. He's like. What is that? Y'all want to explain it to me? And Baylor looks so pain. Because you could tell Baylor had that figured out. OK, Ask for a trial by combat.

20:35 He's not going to want to fight you, right? Because, yeah, you've seen what Arian can do. We know he's good on a horse, and we know he fights dirty. You don't know nothing about Sir Duncan. Because obviously when him and Sir Arlen were serving the houses, y'all weren't paying him any attention so he could easily come in and whoop your behind. I mean, he already did. He already know what he can do. We. Already know so baby looks like OK, so so we'll do this. He and and he said it. He said OK, so he can ask for a try by combat unless you want to drop the charges, then we then we can do that. We good. And you know, that's what Baylor was hoping to happen.

21:17 Don gets to save face and walk away. The Targaryens get to save face kind of sort of. But then, of course, you know, Ariana is the oh, oh, so we just going to let this stand. We we just going to let we just going to let this be a challenge to Targaryen honor. His father was like, don't talk to me about honor. I heard what you did today, horse yesterday, you know just. And a random girl who wasn't hurting nobody. But then the other thing is, like, this kid is talking about, oh, what he did to Dare on, but they know he didn't kidnap that boy. So what did you even bring in Dare on up for? Like just any old excuse to be a punk. It just hurts my nerves.

22:00 The the most weak and just horrible people are always the most scared, you know, talk all this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yes. And they just are scared. Oh. I was thinking. Though he was given the face like he was just confident or whatever, but I don't know, I feel like Ariel was probably shaking in his boots. Well, he's. The I think the gold. Or the silver cloaks or the white cloaks are going to save them. Yeah, I feel like, I feel like if, if Maycore hadn't been there the whole time, I don't think any of this would happen. Yeah. I don't think he would have would have tortured the puppy.

22:43 Puppy people, you know, was he there when he killed the when he killed the horse? I don't. Think no, because when he looked up there he wasn't in the chair. Yeah, he had already left to go look for it there on the. AI have a feeling he wouldn't do any of his stuff if Nicole was around. I, I, I go back and forth about that, but I really, the way McCord treats him, I don't think he would have done most of this this stuff if he was there. Just this, just this. To not have to deal with that, you know, no. Because I almost feel like the way McCord treats him is because he acts that way.

23:24 Well, he he does it when he's not around. He's like, he's like any other bully. The bullies don't do the the bullying when Dad is around because Dad bullies them. Yeah. That's a good point because, because when when Dunk asked was his dad dead and or something? And he was like, no. And he was like, do you know your dad or something? No, he asked me do you know your dad? And he's like, no, not really. Yeah. When he asked dad. So he he probably don't spend no real time with them. Yeah, and he clearly don't know. You really don't know what they learning because he didn't know his son knew about the the 6000 year old rule that I'm sure a maester probably taught him. Could could be, yeah.

24:07 Or he could. I mean, because again, we don't really know that much about Aryan, but he may be one of those Targaryens that OK, I'm going to go sit and read and I'm going to learn some stuff. You know, he could be because obviously your older brother, should anything happen, he is obviously not fit to rule, that much is certain. He kind of, he kind of resembles Aegon in that way. Aegon from House of the Dragon, because Aegon didn't want to rule either, You know, he. Was like hey give some. Hagman I don't want. It they're like 3 or 4, five targets away from the throne, so they're not worried about being king or whatever, they don't have to worry about that.

24:51 You think so, but I mean Aegon, this Aegon ends up being king and he's how far down the line so. I mean, but. Like 13 that's. Based on the stuff that happens later, but at the moment, like, is Prince Andrew really think he's going to be king? I don't see it that way. You know what I'm saying? He's like you looking over there, you know, you got your uncle, his sons and then your your dad. So that's four people that all have to die for you to become king. And it doesn't look like any of that is going to happen. So yeah, Aaron's going to be an ass because he don't have anything better to do and they're turning around to be a drunkard because no one expects him to be king because his dad is right there.

25:38 You know, then when your cousins start having kids and then they get married, they bounce. Your brother down. The line so they don't they don't have to work so egg for I can run off and be a Squire. What what what else am I going to do? Or be like Eamon sure, see me to the sill and be a maester. Well, that's the reason why Prince Harry was like deuces with his wife and got on out of there 'cause he's so far down the line at this point. Yeah. Right. Why am I dealing with this royal crap when I don't have to? Yeah, I don't blame him. I really don't. I really don't. Yeah.

26:19 And I and I think Prince Aryan is one of those people where he probably has an out for every situation. And that was probably one of those outs that he had as a oh, isn't this convenient? Yeah, yeah. Because what do they say is is a trial by 7. So it's like 7 warriors for each side. Whoever wins, that's who the quote UN quote the gods have determined is right. So if Aryan side wins, that means that Dunk was guilty of the crimes he was, you know, he was accused of. He most likely will lose his hands and his feet, but no, Aryan, he's going to try to kill him. OK, let's just be honest.

26:59 But if Dunk side wins, then he's, you know, cleared of all charges. The only problem is he has to have six other people. And as he says in this meeting, he was like, I don't know six other people. Like, I don't really know anybody here. So then here come the fossil ways, you know, because Raymond has been watching the horses while Dunk has been locked up. And then he takes them to his tent so he can feed them and they can try to strategize. He's trying to help his friend out. And Stephen, his cousin comes in, the more arrogant cousin. But Stephen, at first I feel like he was sincere, like, Oh yeah, you know what?

27:44 Fuck them Targaryens. I'm on your side. I'm a go get my friends and we're going to help. So I'm feeling good about all of this at first, OK? I'm like, OK, Dunk got some good people. And then here comes Egg, Here comes Darron. And you know, when he and Darren had the conversation, because there I was like, look, I was just trying to save my own neck. I wasn't really trying to blame you. I don't even think he knew that Dunk actually went to the attorneys and that his brother found Dunk. Like, that's who he was walking around as Squire. I think Darren probably just called out the name because he remembers seeing the guy at the end.

28:26 And he was like, oh, OK, I can just blame it on him. You know he could be anywhere by now. He could be anywhere by now. You don't think he's going to be at the same tourney with your brother and complicate things more, so at least he does feel bad about that. Well, you would think that thinking wouldn't like attack him and almost kill him, but then they. Can't kill me twice. I was like, you know what? I I feel you because if you lied on me and got me into even more trouble and now you just coming in my tit all nonchalant, making jokes. Excuse me, Sir, what are we doing here? I don't even you don't even know me like that. But you about to learn.

29:08 But I think he pulled back because Egg was like, don't hurt him. So it's like, OK, if Egg is asking. All right, I'm a backup. Let me see what this dude got to say. And it's like I said, it's clear Darren may be the only brother that cares about Egg at this point because again, we have not met Amon, so we don't know what that relationship is like. But they're all sitting here trying to help Duncan brainstorm, trying to figure out what he's going to do. And they're on is basically like, look, they're going to make me fight, but I don't want no part of this.

29:50 He was like, I look gallant, you know, I'll look good for the first, for the first charge. But then if you could just knock me on the head, we're good. I don't have to do anything. Make it ring, but not too loud. Right. But it's like you have Arian, he said. Except my father's going to fight and Dunk is like, of course he's going to fight. Then you have Daron, who obviously does not want to fight. Then you got the three Kings guards that were there. So they pretty much have six. They almost have their seven. We don't know who the 7th 1 is going to be at this point. Dunk still only has Sir Stefan right now, who has gone off to find his friends so that they can fight on Dunk's side.

30:39 First step in talking. Oh, I got your back. And, and like I said, I feel like in this moment he really did, because again, the both fossil ways in these episodes have been like, yeah, you know what? We were here long before the Targaryens. We're going to be here long before they leave. They came over here, they took all our stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's obvious in this episode at this at that point anyway, he don't like the Targaryens. So I feel like he was very sincere about oh, yeah, I'll, I'll stand up with you. I'll go fight with you. Let me go find my my friends. Then the next morning when Dunk comes out and he sees Sir Lionel and Sir, who was the other one?

31:25 Percy Somebody. It was It's the blind, the one Eyed Night wrestling and Sir Sir Sir Sir Humphrey, the one that got it. It wasn't he the one that got his leg messed up by Ariana the leg. Was crushed. Now you know that somebody who don't like a Targaryen, you got your leg broke in two places and you were like, I can't walk, but if I can sit on a horse, I can fight. I can fight. He was like, OK, I like this. But then when when Sir Lionel comes over to Duncan, he's making a joke. He was like, yeah, I knew your ass was trouble when I first met you. And he was like, I'm I'm in debt to you, you know, and to you guys.

32:06 And also for Sir Stefan forgetting you. And Lionel was like, Sir Stevran. Who is that? Oh wait, what? Yeah, but also like Sir Lionel, because he's like, I'm not going to pass up. They haven't been. We haven't had one of these in 1000 years. I'm not going to pass this up. Right. He was like a chance to bloody up the Kingsguard and get that Pretty Little white armor dirty. Nah, I'm in. I'm in, I love him so much. You're like, OK, Duncan, he, he has five people so far. And you know, Sir Stefan will be 6. Sir Stefan comes in. He tells Raymond, oh, give me my helm.

32:47 And Dunk was like, hey, we still need one more person. And Stephen says, I'm afraid you'll need to. I'm going to fight over there with the accusers. Everybody stopped. Like, what? And Raymond is like, what do you mean you're going to fight with them? You told Sir Dunk that he could count on you. He was like, yeah, well, the Prince made me a a Lord in order to thwart Sir Dunk. So. OK. I was like, really? That that's what we doing? Raymond was like, so you sold your honor for lordship.

33:29 He was like, look, I have known people who sold their honor for much less. Everybody's like, Sir, did you see Sir Lionel's face? Sir Lionel was like, I would kick you right now. They were all so flabbergasted that this man did it. And then he he's sitting there looking like, well, y'all wouldn't do this. I mean, his cousin literally spat to the side and and pushed him. I was. Like what the hell? And and and the crazy thing is all of y'all people are looking y'all see the Targaryens over there and they got their people who over here on Dunk side egg.

34:17 So this already should tell you that one of those charges y'all about the fight over is bogus and shit right? Because the little boy who supposedly got kidnapped, you know, his Squire ring for Sir Done. Yep. So then Dump goes to the crowd to try to find his, his, you know, his seventh person. And he makes this really beautiful speech, you know, and, and it's quiet. Everybody's listening to him. He's talking about Sir Arlen and how, you know, he taught me how to be a knight. He taught me how to do everything. But, oh, before we get into that, I do have to ask a question.

35:00 So after so after Stephen turns his coat basically and goes over to fight with the Targaryens, Raymond turns around to Sir Duncan. He was like, night me, I'll fight on your side. And Dunk pulls his sword and he hesitates and he was like, no, I shouldn't do that. Raymond's like night me now. I've been seeing different things online. Of course I have not gotten this far in the book so I don't know the dialogue or what's going to happen. I think I stopped reading right at the point where Egg reveals himself to be who he is.

35:43 OK, so the question that I have, when I first watched it, I thought Dunk was hesitating because he knew Sir Raymond was not a good fighter and he didn't want to put him in that position knowing that he could very well be killed. Now, I have seen some other discussions saying that the reason why Dunk hesitated in knighting Sir Raymond is because he's not really a knight. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. I think it was a little column A, a little column B is what I was thinking. So is that the case, Anthony? He's not Sir Arlen never really did knight him. I mean, you haven't, you haven't gotten to the, you haven't gotten to this part of the book.

36:27 It will be a spoiler. Well, I mean, I'm watching the show so it doesn't matter now. In in the book, if I remember correctly, it's because he's not a knight. OK. Yep. That's why he's he's not a knight. So he didn't in good conscience, he couldn't, he couldn't knight him. OK. And I love the fact. That also put his put his put him in harm's way yeah, for so it. Is a little bit of both, yeah. It's it's a lot of not being a knight in addition to a little bit of. If he dies and I just. Did he dies and it's on me and I'm not even a knight and I'm and I he wasn't Yeah, it's yeah, yeah. So that is, yeah, that is the part of. This, I was thinking about that when, when, when Sir Lionel was like, here, I'll do it.

37:16 And I was like, thank God. But you know what? And I love him for that because I feel like he noticed the hesitation after he said, yeah, well, you know, Raymond is right. You know, you do. You're doomed if if he doesn't get knighted and help. Like, yeah, we're still 1 short, but at least we're not too short. Like you got a knight up and if he does have the hesitation and and the the kind of the the bell or whatever went off, he was just like, you go ahead, I'll knight him. I was like, you know what, the fact that he didn't make that uncomfortable for Dunk. He didn't give him a knowing glass. He didn't, he didn't do anything that would make anybody else look at that situation and say, oh, he's not really a knight.

38:06 I think Egg might have figured it out, probably because Egg is familiar with that custom and what that was. Because when when Dunk hesitated, Egg's facial expression changed just slightly, but it changed. So I feel like he probably figured out what was going on, but. As far as as far as Lionel, yeah, As far as Lionel, Sir Lionel knows Duncan is a knight. As far as he, No he, he doesn't he. So you think he did that just because the the whole hesitation thing? Like I don't want my friend to die, OK? Yeah, because from their perspective he is a Squire. Like he's not.

38:56 I'm talking about Raymond. So of course, thinking is hesitating to Lionel. He might be hesitating because he's a Squire and he may not think he's good enough yet and he doesn't want to put him in harm's way. And I was like, no, go ahead and do it. And then he gets called away. So I don't think Lionel is not thinking that he's not a knight. You don't think so? That's why he he didn't hesitate. Well, he didn't. He doesn't think they can hesitate because he's not a knight. OK, OK. Because if Lionel had suspected, he would have suspected already. But see, and and that's the thing. Because aside from the fact that he may not have been knighted, Duncan acts more like a knight than any of them did do. He does.

39:52 You know, and so that's why I was thinking Lionel may have Pete that, oh, maybe he's not a knight because he's he's very hesitant about doing this, but I feel like. He's he's a hedge knight and he served under hedge knight, so they look at his Knights a little different anyway. Yeah, OK. And the one thing the difference between hedge Knights and sell sores is his Knights are very honourable to their word. Yeah. They are Knights, like they do the right thing when they're supposed to. Which is the whole the whole problem with this episode is because that's what Dunk did.

40:34 He protected the. Innocent. Yeah. And I said before that that is the thing that is a theme for Duncan in this show is he's learning that what he thought was the ideal night, or what he thought was what a night should be, is not how it is in real life. They can be terrible people. They drink, they're they're not always doing the honorable thing. They fart in the middle of the crowd when they they seem like they're going to volunteer for you. That made me so mad because I was like why? Why? Like, what was the purpose of doing that except to just be mean and embarrassed for no reason?

41:18 Like, don't you think he's already suffering enough? He's right here trying to find somebody that helps help him save his life. Well, they didn't make their poop joke cooler, so they had to do something. I I guess. But I was also wondering because obviously it's not everybody who was at the attorney. So they just, it's like the witnesses are all just the Lords or the people or the people who who are specific family who have Neverland or whatever. It's not just everybody who was in the crowds. Because I feel like some of those people probably would have came and fought just because they were so angry about what he did to Sir Humphrey early on. So it's like they're all like people who probably don't want to lose whatever it is they already got.

42:02 So they ain't about to help him, you know what I mean? Like. Yeah, because I mean, even Dunk was thinking that when Sir Stefan was like, Oh yeah, I'm gonna go get my friends. I'm gonna go get Sir Lion or go get he was like, but they'll be going against the Dragon House. And Sir, Sir Stefan was like, what? Dragon House? They ain't got no Dragons. Which is. Which is why it's even. It's even more crazy that you were just talking shit about them 5 minutes ago and now because the Prince is like Oh well if you can't be on my side I give you a title. Oh, OK, I'm, I mean, you're, you're no better than a sell sword. Which also shows you they didn't have he didn't necessarily have a bunch of Knights jumping in his side. Yeah, that's true.

42:53 Yeah, 'cause you and. They were supposed to like they just stand out of it. Yeah, 'cause most of his army, basically his protectors his. Daddy. You know. His what? It was him, his brother, his daddy and the three night 3 kings. He had to bribe. He had to bribe somebody. And and not even bribe your daddy is going to be there just because that's your daddy. Well, no, I just mean like for him to to try to win, he had to bribe somebody because people clearly wasn't running to his side like we said. So it's like, so he knew, like he knew that he also could be in trouble if he didn't do something. Right so here it is now he has his seven cuz Sir Stefan is over there with Arion Duncan still 1 short. He goes to make this speech to the crowd asking, you know, are there no true Knights among you?

43:48 And I was like, nobody stood up. Nobody said anything. I was like, oh, y'all really are a bunch of cowards. But then you hear the gates. Everybody's turning the look to see who's coming through the gates. When the Game of Thrones theme song started playing, I started crying. I was like, who is this? Nowhere in my brain that I think it was going to be Prince Baylor. That was my first thought. I was like, it has to be him because he's the only one with enough power to like, do this and not feel like the consequences are too hot. You know what I mean?

44:30 Like he's not no little peasley. Lord Little and I, I wasn't paying attention because it was kind of dark when he was coming in so I didn't see his armor. But then Makor started trailing behind him and he was like, he come to fight for his nephew. And then when he took his helmet off and he was like, I will fight for Sir Duck. I'm at work watching this on my phone. I started to go, yeah, but I can't. I had to calm myself down and remind myself that I was at work because I was ready to scream and cheer. He's going to fight for Sir Dunk his brothers. Like the hell you think you're doing. Look, Sir, what he say he attacked my son. He was protecting the innocent.

45:19 As all good night should. And it's like this guy also, I feel like to a certain degree too, he other than other than him just being a stand up guy and just like honestly wanting to be an honorable knight, especially after seeing how Dunk was just so determined to be an honorable knight. The other thing, I feel like he he's the one who suggested the the trial by combat. And I feel like he felt a little, not responsibility, but like he felt a little like, oh, this is my idea, you know? And it backfired. So yeah, yeah, he probably did feel a little bit clearly A.

46:00 Good man, you know. Yeah, and also, you know, your, you know, your nephew is an ass, right? And your brothers kind of you just saw your nephews to stick a pole through a horse's chest before he wouldn't attack this girl all because you mad because of her puppet play. Like, really? So yeah, I I cheered when he came in. But also I have a feeling with apprehension because now you have Saraman and you have Baylor and I'm sorry. When people volunteer to fight for other people in this world, it don't necessarily work out well for them. It don't work out.

46:42 It don't work out. So now I'm worried. And Theron's dream to have us all a little scared, too. Like, yeah, that's just about. The dragon is but see OK. We don't know which dragon it is He. Didn't say it was a good one or a bad one. He just said a dragon and that. He didn't even tell me if he was the one that killed the. Dragon, whose wings were so large it covered the Meadow. That's not going to be Ariana. Ariana is not that big. He's not great. So I feel like it's either going to be Baylor or it's going to be Makar. And he was, what did he say?

47:23 He said the dragon was dead. It it was on top of you, but you were alive and the dragon was dead. I was like. He asked him did I kill him? He's like I. Don't know. I don't know. I I didn't see that much. You know, you realize how inconvenient these visions can be. You only see part of the story, but you don't see the whole story. But. Not necessarily. Usually targeting visions give you the whole story. It's just figuring out what the story is. It'll be like Riley on a national treasure.

48:03 Go to the Thing and find the treasure. Why can't it? Why can't it just be that simple? Or just go to the Thing and find the treasure. Yeah, I can't remember the, the name of the, the, the Valerian, the Targaryen daughter who had the dream and they were like, Yep, pack it up, let's go to Dragon Stone. Visenia. Was it Visenia that did it? Yeah, it was one of the right. No, no, it was. No, no, no. This was earlier earlier. Way before that. When they were on? Yeah. When I heard Valyria. It was before. It was before the Doom of Valyria. Yeah, right. But I thought it was 1. Of Aegon's No, because that came afterwards. That that. Was brave, yeah, but it was Aegon. But it was, it was.

48:44 I mean, whoever Aegon's father was, it was his, His, his. It may have been, it may have been a couple of generations before. That OK, Gotcha. OK, I don't know why it's so confusing because everybody's Eric, Aegon and Veron. One Aegon 2 Aegon 3. Even Dunk was like Aegon. Which Aegon? How many Aegon's have been king? 4 at this point, it'll it'll be it's four, it'll well, it ain't 4 yet, but. No, it was 4. No, it was 4 because this one. Aegis. Five, Yeah. Aegis 5. Johnson was 6. John Stone was 6. But let me say, Baylor Targaryen, I fucks with him. Makor like, I understand that's your son. Those are your sons.

49:35 You going, you going to stand up for your sons? But clearly he is not happy about having to do so. And I think he's also probably pissed off that Ariana has put him in this position. He probably was like, look, we gonna come to these boring little tourneys. We gonna let y'all fight for a few days and then we going home because they, all of them were saying that. I mean, I think Maker was the one who was like, why are we even here? He said that in the second episode. He was like, we could be doing other things. Why are we here? He don't want to be there and now you got him fighting. He probably wasn't planning on putting that armor on.

50:16 He wasn't planning on doing nothing but sitting there and just watching and being bored. And now you got him in armor about the fight because you were dumbass and you were drunk ass. So I don't know. I, I still think I I think I'm OK. Makar is just kind of one of those where he's just like I I don't hate him. He hasn't given me any reason to hate him, but I just I don't know. You need to be AI don't know. You need to take your sons and hand because obviously you let them run over you. I mean, he tried to snatch them up. They just, he just can't, can't do anything. How did that work?

51:02 Out for him. Still Targaryen, though, you know they can only do so much. Yeah, I guess. I mean and. Then you have Daron, who is just obviously Daron just don't want to be there. He's like, look, I just want to drink and not have these dreams. Yeah, he's troubled. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's just trouble. I want to talk about another scene that was kind of taking on my heartstrings was Steely. I call him Steely Dan. Oh. Yes, the blacksmith. Yes. Talking about the shield, that whole scene and you know, he's not like. Tears.

51:47 Yeah, he's crying. I'm like, wow, it was deep and he's the shield and he's like, it's a falling star, it's a sensei. It's all death. He's like, no, the tree. Summer is leaves. Yeah. And then he he replaced the shield because he was like, yeah, your old one was, was thin and cheap, wasn't very good. He was like, this one is a little bit stronger. It's a little bit heavier, but it'll be it. It'll be better for you. It's safer. And then when Dunk is like, how much you want for, he's like from you, just the copper. I was like, oh, Dunk doesn't worm this way into that man's heart. He's like, you know what? I'm gonna help him out. But also, too, he's one of the small. Folks.

52:31 Small folks. Yeah, he understands like what Dunk did, like you punched A Targaryen Prince in the mouth and kicked him to save one of us. So I think at that point you would think most of the small fault would be like, OK, he's for us. But of course, like you said, most of the other ones, they're probably scared, whatever. But the the blacksmith, he was like, I see you, I see what you did, you know, and I'm going to do what I can do to protect you or to help, you know, to help you protect yourself. And then of course, she's gone, making her way to Dawn because. Why?

53:16 Why stay around? Why even bother? 'Cause that wouldn't have been good. But yeah, I this, this episode, when I say so good. But now I'm so worried. We have two episodes left in this season. We're about to have a big battle in this next episode. I I'm worried, I'm worried. I don't want Raymond Fossaway to die because one, that's the first real friend that Dunk has had. Like when he came out of the trees, he was like, Dunk, is that you? And they embraced each other.

53:57 I was like, look, Dunk has a friend. Dunk has someone who is really worried about him and, and, and cares about him. And it's like, OK, you know what? Let me figure out what I can do to help my friend. I mean, from from the moment they met, he has been 10 toes down for Dunk. So I want him to survive this. I don't know how that's going to work because you about to you about to go and fight against seasoned fighters. You're just a Squire, probably, you know, and only person you've probably fought against is Stefan. And we saw how that went in the first episode. Yeah, I would just say there's a reason why no one calls for trial by 7, because it turns into something crazy. Everybody's life on the line and and the only people who would ever ask for this are Knights.

54:55 And why? Why would you do that to each other? Do you know what I mean? No. No accusation is worth the chaos that could result from people you know dying like that. Unless you are a Targaryen and you're attracted to chaos. Well, don't care about nobody else, but he didn't care. That's different. I'm saying there there's a reason why makers like what the fuck is a trial by 7? No one knows what it is because no one does it. Yeah, 'cause it's stupid. 1000 years since the last time. So, so the question is, OK, you have the seven people on the Targaryen side. You have the seven people on Duck's side. Is it a fight until everybody from one team is dead? Is it a fight until the other team yields? How?

55:49 How does this trial by 7 work? It's over once the if the accused is killed. It's over if the accuser is killed. It's over or if they yield. OK, so. OK. And then is this like like the rest of the list where if you lose, well, I, I guess if, if you're dead is not really going to matter. But for the person who dies, what happens to their like if they lose their land? Does it go to the person who won or does it? This is this. This is outside of attorney rules. OK.

56:30 This is this is not attorney rules, OK. So, but I guess in that case, but will the people who fought with the person who loses as far as like the ones who ain't in power, will they be murdered because they they fought? No. OK, OK. I mean, because the whole point is your fate is going to be determined by the gods. So if the accuser, if the accuser accuser yields, it's over, OK? And it's just over because that was the whole point. OK, now if the accused yields, let's say they get into this fight, Sir, Duncan decides, OK, you know what? I'm done. I yield.

57:11 Will he's will they still put him to just put him to death? Or will they just take they will to put him to death? Yes. OK, OK, so yeah, so you might as well fight to the death. But it's, it's, I guess it's kind of really not clear because I think, I think in the book they say he could yield and he would just lose a hand and a foot because that's really all Andy wants. Which again, you might. As well, if he if he yields. If he yields, it's possible and you could spare him and just take his hand and foot. Yeah, you might as well kill him at that point, because what else is certain dot going to do?

57:57 Being a knight is all he knows. Yeah. You know, so I think he would probably rather be dead than to go through life like that, not being able to to help people and and to do the things that he wants to do as far as being a knight. Any chance that Aryan dies in the next episode? I don't want to know. It's because it's spoilery, but I just. Hope and pray and dream it is. We just have that hope because, you know, egg becomes king. So that's hope. Right. Some, like a whole bunch of people got to die for egg becomes king now.

58:39 We don't know 2. Three, we don't know at what age he becomes king, but well, at least we don't who haven't read the books yet because I I haven't gotten that much into the history, but it's like. There's quite a few. People that have to die and I mean, technically speaking, you got 1234, you got four of them in in the trial by 7 right there. I think it's 66 Sargarian Princess have to die before he becomes king. But we're not counting Amon because you know he doesn't die. Yeah, OK. So that means. He would have to be out of picture. What is it? King, Darren the Great That's.

59:19 What? Velar. His son Baylor and then Velar. Oh, Baylor. And then Velar. And then Makar Daron. Well, you forgot Baylor has two sons. I was going to say it's one. It's another son for Baylor. Yeah, Baylor has two sons. Oh, OK. Yeah, yeah, you're right. The one OK Baylor, his two sons, Makor, then Daron, Arian, Damon. There's 8. There's eight people in front, so you got four of them already right here. Not not that I want Baylor to die. I don't want him to die, and I don't really want Daron to. Really.

1:00:04 I don't want anybody but Ariana to die. And that's just because Ariana's an asshole. Like he is the serious level asshole. I think the serious the second not, but that will be. That would be too much, I feel like to put in this first season, especially if you're talking about you're talking about drawing this story, the showrunners talking about drawing this story out between 10 and 15 seasons. He says he wants to explore the entirety of Dunkin Eggs lives. So you can't make Egg King in the first season, and then it's a whole nine other seasons full of stuff.

1:00:52 I mean, you probably could. There's probably enough. But not. I don't. I don't think I want to see that that quickly. Yeah. Just so. Yeah, just Ariana needs to die. Well, you know that the three novellas are probably going to be the three seasons. The first three seasons are going to because that's just how it's going to work out. So in the third novella, because again, I haven't read that far, do they talk, do they talk about how Dunkin Egg died? Because I mean, that's not a spoiler. Everybody dies. So it's do they talk about the end of their life in that third novella? Because if that's the case, you have 3. I don't know.

1:01:38 I haven't. I haven't read the third one yet. OK. Because I was going to say, if that's the case, that's a lot that that's three novellas that you're trying to spread out over 1015 years. There's got to be a lot of stuff to happen, which I wouldn't be surprised because reading Dance of Dragons is kind of like, God damn, that's a lot of stuff that's happening in, in, in this little short story. So I guess it's, it's doable, but it just depends on how they end this first season. So I, I don't know. And then that's also, that's just something that he wants to do. No one has said like HBO hasn't said, oh, yeah, we're going to give you 10 to 15 seasons.

1:02:20 I think HBO is going to see how things go. But again, most of what I've seen online about the show, people are loving it, like absolutely loving it. Some people are loving it more than they love the original show because they're like, it's, it's so like you still have some of the entry, you still have some of the tension, the drama, the Targaryens and all that other stuff. But it's not as in your face as Game of Thrones was, you know what I'm saying? And then also it's just, yeah, it's it's more about the people in the character development and just it's what was it Somebody said?

1:03:02 They said it's a show about love, honor and friendship in a time when we really need to see that, you know, and they're doing such a good job of it. And just I love this show. I love the I love the casting, I love the characters. And I'm just worried. Well, because, you know, Game of Thrones drew us in. Ned's a good guy. And what happened to Ned, huh. What happened to Ned? I remember watching it and I'm watching it with Evelyn and I'm like, oh man, he's so great. And like, oh, he's going to find out. He's got all the stuff and blah, blah, blah. Evelyn like girl don't get attached. The same thing.

1:03:46 The same thing. Everybody who even people who I knew, they read the book, they're like, yeah, they're not going to kill Sean Bean. They're not. And then it was like, they did it. They actually did it. They. Did yeah. And it's so it's so funny because I'm, I'm more active now on threads than I am on other social media just because it's a more, it seems to be a more peaceful social media. Like everybody over there is like really positive for the most part. You know, it's, it's, it's very friendly and I love the way the algorithm just kind of feeds into it.

1:04:27 But so many people are watching Game of Thrones now for the very first time. So. Reading their post is so interesting because based on some of the things they say, they may not be talking about it and episode specifically, but based on their commentary, you can guess where they are in the in the season. So it's like, you know, you have somebody who's like, oh, Ned just found out blah blah blah. He about to get. I was like. He about to get all right. Right, right. Every time I watch very.

1:05:07 Interesting, because you do have some people who have who are watching A Night of the Seven Kingdoms and somebody was like, how did I not know about Game of Thrones before this? I'm like, yeah, how did you not know? It was only. It was only the biggest show on TV ever forever, about 10 years. But there's some people who have absolutely no. They were like, I didn't even know the show existed. I I didn't know about. Yeah. So it's so interesting seeing the discourse now, like people talking about it, people getting into a, people really falling in love with it. And yeah, the heartbreak that we know is about to come.

1:05:50 So I'm just kind of like, even though I know A Night of the Seven Kingdoms, it's Game of Thrones, but it's not Game of Thrones. It's a little bit pulled back. I still am, kind of. I'm watching it like this, like waiting for the shoe to drop. At the end of the day, it's still Game of Thrones. It's still Game of Thrones. It's still Game of Thrones. But we know somebody going to die. I do wonder like since they're talking about all these seasons and they want to do all this 15 year plan and all this, are they going to keep the same tone where it is kind of like funny ish or kind of lighter than a? Regular Thrones, I think so. I think they can. I think they've sold it that way.

1:06:32 And I think, you know, remember, as long as you have either and Targaryen and or Dragons, they're going to be behind the show. So if they can, if they can keep a Targaryen in the show egg, and if they promise Targaryens all the way to the engine, they'll go for it. Yeah. But also it would be, it would be really nice if they go for that long to kind of watch Dexter grow as Egon. That would be an interesting thing to do, Little Dex, you know.

1:07:15 Yeah, it could be like Arya and Bran and how they all grew up on the show and got grown and it was hard to watch them be grown. Yeah. But then also I, I really do want to see how he is as king, like how the experiences that he's going through right now, how that shapes him to be a king. Yeah. And then, you know, I don't know much about his rule. I do know a little bit about how he about, you know, his death and, and Duncan's death. And I do know that they they stayed together their entire lives. Like Duncan was very loyal to Egg and Egg was very loyal to him. So I would.

1:08:00 Like we learned, we learned in the Game of Thrones that Lincoln was so Duncan at all was Commander Laura commander of the Kingsguard. We learned that in and I think I also read somewhere that. When Egon has his first son, he names him Sir, he names him Duncan the Small after Dunk. So yeah. So I, I would like to see that continue. That would be the third volume that that would have to. Be like the third whatever three seasons yeah how they do it yeah how would. They do it because I think if. At the end if the the novellas.

1:08:40 Are. Basically age as a kid and then if they're going to continue with the. Next section would have to be. Him as a teenager, right? And then the third series. Would have to be him as an adult. Becoming king or whenever he becomes. King, because again, I don't know if he becomes. King as a child, if he becomes king as a teenager, if he, you know, if he makes it all the way to an adult before he's king. So, you know, I just know that Maester Amen. When it came time for him to be king, he was like, Nope, I'm going to the wall. And I never found out how old he was when he went to the wall.

1:09:22 So, you know, he's like, yeah, little. Brother, I'm gonna let you. Have this. I'm going this way, which it was probably obvious at that point, because if if they're already talking about him going to the Citadel now it's probably obvious that he either doesn't have. It in him to be king or? He is just kind of, they can see like this ain't gonna work out for him. Well, he's, if I remember correctly, he says it to John. He was like, there were people, he didn't want another war to be fought and people died to make him king, and he didn't even want to be king.

1:10:07 That's why he went to the wall. OK, Yeah, yeah, OK. So yeah, 'cause that. Whole time is just. Fighting. Probably like fire rebellion, yeah. #500. Yeah, they. Don't quit. You can't make. Me legitimate and. Think I'm a back down you I'll quit black fight and that was a bracket who got up and did the. Fart in the. Stands too, wasn't it? Yes. Bracken the brute. Bracken the brute. They they called him out. I remember that. Name. I put you on my list. Like Aria, son. You fighting? That's what you're doing.

1:10:48 OK, Bracken, the brute. I got you in my sleep, I thought. I thought the Brackens. Were in the Riverlands. They doing all the way down in the. Reach in the reach I mean, but didn't or what? I feel like, I guess, well, I don't know, do people travelled like that that far, See that weren't like, you know, I guess, I guess so. I mean, yeah. 'Cause there was a, there was a telly bear. So yeah, Oh yeah, the telly was in the tourneys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fish Eater. I mean, think about it again if you don't have. Really anything else to do, you're not in line to be, you know, the Lord of whatever, right? Just sure.

1:11:31 It's a tournament. Yeah, I'll. I'll drive. 20. Days to go be in a tournament and possibly get killed. God, 20 days is for glory. That. Isn't that what Sir Stefan? Said for glory, or you know, give me a. A lordship, yeah, 'cause I think we, I think it's, it was like 30 days from Winterfell. To King's Landing, Yeah, that track, but imagine how long it would take to get to Reach. Yeah. In a rickety in a rickety carriage. No comfort, no featherbed, No. I mean, sure, you're going to stay in the inn, but just no. That's why I want to know what happened in the lamb cart with Egg when he was. Like I don't want to talk about he had to be oh, because. That was something else, because then. Lincoln said it's only been four nights, four days since he left the ham.

1:12:27 Yeah, so. That mean egg spent like a whole day. In the cart. In the cart, probably. So, Yeah. Oh God. Yeah. That's one day too long. Listen. He wanted them adventures though, didn't he? He. Said I don't want to talk about. I don't want to talk about it. Talk about it, but I mean, but he was happy you, you know, when they were in the. Last episode when he and Dunk was sitting there and they were fit they were fixing there with this someone call it they call it the the egg and Dunk mixed sandwich or something like that, the breakfast sandwiches and he just. Kind of looked around, kind of. Fire when it was sent, all the tips and everything, he was like.

1:13:13 I think I could. Be quite happy here. And I was like, oh, so you know, this boy don't want to be a Targaryen. He don't want to rule. He just wants to live a simple life. Look, let's, let's just go to the tournament. Let's go wherever I will. He's been with you, right? Just reminded me, I don't know why it. Reminded me of that of that. Thing, you know, in The Avengers, when Captain America is telling the cop, go do this, do this, do this, and the guy's like, who the hell are you? And he's just like, oh, the aliens came and dropped the shit. And then Captain America was like pop out and he's like, oh, go do the thing. Remind me of that. Because he's telling he's selling the egg that they're going to have salt beef.

1:13:54 And he's like, I don't even think so. Like basically I'm not eating that shit. And then he worked his ass and he was like, what is the best salt beef? He changed his old like man, I ain't never. Been this hungry. This salt beef is good, right? Right. But at first he had that. Little like I ain't eating that salt. Beef, I know your hoity toity was coming out right then. And there, Oh my gosh, I love them so much. I. Know I can't wait for the. I can't wait for the cookbook the. Dunking Egg cookbook. So I can make that sandwich. They probably. They probably. Will do one they. They as long as it. Doesn't have hot salt beef in there. Just we don't need to have that.

1:14:41 I want them. Goosey, I'm about to go to one of these geese. That's off by my. Job, they'll be honking at everybody and go get one of them. Goosey eggs were big. They'd be trying to fight you, though. Yeah, they do. Yes, they do. They do. We we had some nesting geese. At. The the building I used to work at that was next door to the building Anthony was working at, and literally anytime you walk past that nest, they were attacked. I used to tell Susan at the bus. Lane, don't go over there. Don't go over there. They one of them, he went over there and that geese turned around. Put them wings out. I said. Boy, you better run.

1:15:24 Well, one of ours was nesting the. Dude was hiding between cars in the parking lot, waiting on people to go try to talk to to mess with her. And as soon as somebody would come outside, he would You better get away from her. And I'm just like, we we're just trying to walk to our car. What are you doing? Yeah, but. The crazy thing was they put the they made their nest right next to the side exit door. So literally like. It it was a problem for a. Long time we had a counselor because the parking is back there. He wouldn't let the counselor get in her car. She was like, Oh my God, I can't leave. He was standing by the car.

1:16:06 Look at that. I had to walk over and distract them while she ran around the car and went through the passenger side. People was able to catch them and steal their eggs. Like how? Sway 'cause they out here killing people. I don't know, look. They probably look they. Probably killed the geese back then too. You. Know they they out there for the turning they need some fresh meat they yeah yeah he did say no no, not the geese I want. The eggs, just like, yeah, 'cause he was about to yell. So you know. Maybe just like chicken, but did we use?

1:16:50 Anything I feel like we I. Think we covered everything? Well, I think well. So like small stuff? Like the the. The blacks blacksmith did tell him that the girl was headed back to Dorn, which what you would assume she would be safe because while Aryan is causing mayhem, she probably has time to get down there. Hopefully because Dorn is way past kings like like it's way down South. So hopefully she can get there. Yeah, yeah. Oh, with and and Targaryens. Don't mess with doing. Too much, yeah, nobody messes with doing too much. Pretty much sovereign. They're like, look, you stay up there, we stay down here. We. Going to leave it but they be straight marrying them though back.

1:17:30 All these Dornish women getting married off, Yeah, won't be. That one though. But OK, so we have. We have two episodes. Left and then we're going to be without. Dunking it, but I did. Hear that they are already working on season 2 and they don't plan on having long hiatuses in in between seasons for the show 'cause Dexter will be 85 years old if they. Do that, but also like, like Anthony said, you don't have Dragons. So you don't, you nothing in this show is CGI. You don't.

1:18:14 Everything is practical. You just have a couple of sets. Yeah. And they they. Really, you only have a couple of sets. It shouldn't take much. Yeah, so I would. Say we should get a new. Season next year and I can really see them turning. The sets they use for this, turning this around for Season 2 because it's just, it's just. A couple of. A couple of buildings and a field. That's all it is. Yeah, Yeah. Would they? I guess, But would they? Head back down to King's Landing though is the question. Are they going to be back in King's Landing for that though? Do you want to know the?

1:19:00 Answer I mean. At some point they. Got to get back to King's. Landing, but will it be? That early I guess in the question, OK, they no. No. That's good. No Was good. That was good. So yeah, they're making reuses that they have. Yeah. It's it's not because the. The second season is the. Second season will be the sworn sword, so they're they're going to be working for some other Lord doing some stuff. OK, OK. OK. All right, well. You guys have any final thoughts? This is a good episode. I just want to say you're not a spoiler because we do know. But Egg does become king at some point, so saying that they're working for some other Lord in the second season is not really a spoiler.

1:19:48 Yeah, no, it's not. You know, Egg becomes. King and Duncan becomes. Knight of the King command of the King start, but we may have a ways to go before that happens. So that way we may have or we may not, but yeah, well. Yeah, but at least we get to see. Duncan, Ed. Kind of repair their relationship. Yeah, Right now it is kind of fractured. But I think also like the fact that Ed came to the tent and Dunk is like, what are you doing here? He was like, I'm your Squire. You gonna need somebody to Squire for you. And he was out there the next morning. Like did he? Even sleep. Oh, and that's the other thing.

1:20:30 Ed was the one who got the Champions for Dunk's side because Sir Stefan obviously didn't. And Sir Lionel? Was like, who is that? And don't say, well, how are you all here? The boy came and got us. And also at this point everybody knows who egg is. Now so Prince. The Targaryen Prince. Comes and says I need you to. Come fight. For him. Yeah, might as well, right? Especially, especially technically speaking, they aren't. Going against House Targaryen because a Targaryen Prince came and said, hey, I need you to come fight for someone.

1:21:12 That is true. Technically speaking, they are following the rules. They're still, you know, loyal to the house. It's just which side of the house is like the Reds, I mean the greens and blacks and the blacks. Especially when Daddy Baylor come up. Out of there, make what was like, excuse me, what you doing? I'm gonna go. Fight over here with them, have you? Lost your senses? Y'all y'all can have this over. There. I just feel like I'm. I'm going to be crying. I just feel like because it's it's Game of Thrones, they don't do something that's going to hurt my heart and I'm going to be very disappointed. I just feel it. Which is crazy considering we've only known these characters. Literally for what, 3 hours?

1:21:56 I know by the time, by the time that he's done. Not. Even 3 is it no by by the time the? Season is done. It'll be almost. Over 3 hours. But yeah, we, we spent what, two and a half, 2 1/2 hours maybe with the. I just need Sir Stephen. To die and Raymond to become Lord Fossaway. That's all I need to happen. Everything. Else is just whatever. But that's what I need to happen. He's probably the only other male in the line of succession. Behind him. So he going to hear everything he got, Yeah. Was that Lima that said maybe they should have? Been apples they wouldn't be something to Oh my God and I thought Raven was about. To jump that man.

1:22:44 No, that was Zaron who said it it. Was Zaron. That was hilarious, he said. Yeah, he said. Maybe, he said. Maybe. We as far as the Targaryens, because he was talking about the fact that Ariana attacked the girl because she did the puppet show about the dragon being slain and like you said Anthony they look he looks at himself as the dragon egg even says he was like he thinks he's a dragon in human form. So when they slew the dragon, he took that personally and they're. He was like, you know, maybe, maybe. We should have been apples. And then Raven was like, we're just saying what you say. Raven is scrappy.

1:23:33 Though I'll give him props for a little Squire, I said. Knight him, give him a sore and a horse. About it all the Squires you pretty much have seen have been kind of like. Mild mannered, like I was mild mannered before he became like it's so like Raymond is like what's good, right? Let's go right. He's like, oh you need another night because my bitch ass. Cousin OK night me night me king me yeah, he was willing to die because he. Raymond because he has a sense of honor. And he has a sense of loyalty, like you don't give somebody your word and then you turn around and and break that word for what?

1:24:16 For a title, A title that let's. Say y'all lose that. Title's that title's coming right back basically, 'cause you don't go renege on. Right, they told you believe the man. Anyway. Oh yeah. So yeah, I. I want to see Sir Stephen. Kind of get what's coming to him. I want to see Ariana get what's coming to him. And I just want everybody on our side to make it out alive. I know that's asking a lot. Game of Thrones, but it's it's out there. So 2 episodes left. I guess we'll just prepare for possible heartbreak in the next episode.

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