Feb. 17, 2026

A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms (Season 1 Episode 5) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #397

#aknightofthesevenkingdoms #gameofthrones #dunkandegg Honor is challenged, loyalty is tested, and pride is on the line when the Trial of Seven begins for Dunk. A look into Dunk's past gives a glimpse of how he became the man he is today. Justice is served, but comes with a high cost.

 

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah, and I'm here

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with Anthony and Dana, and we
are discussing the Season 1

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penultimate episode of A Night
of the Seven Kingdoms.

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And I know that we've all been
saying like this, you know, it's

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a little bit different, The vibe
is different.

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Doesn't feel like Game of
Thrones.

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Well damn, we didn't need y'all
to remind us that this is Game

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of Thrones in that way.
Yeah.

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All day comedy and humor got
tossed out the window.

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Man, listen, they were like, Oh
yeah, we got y'all in, we got

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y'all comfortable, we got y'all
seated.

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Now we're about to really pull
the rug out from under you.

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Which we all kind of figured
we've been having, you know,

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conversations offline and, you
know, we kind of knew.

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I know Anthony knows what
happens because he's read the

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book.
I kind of found out because I

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went looking for information
once right in the fossil a took

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that knee.
It was like nightmare.

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I went looking.
I was like, I need to know if he

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makes it.
That's what I was looking for

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because I was like, I don't want
him to die.

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So I looked it up and I saw, OK,
he survives.

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But then I saw I was like.
Yeah, it's same.

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I was like, OK.
I did it to myself.

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I'm prepared, but but, but we
know it anytime we get a a

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character that we really like.
So last, especially a target,

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yeah.
I'm not gonna lie, even though,

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even though I knew what was
going to happen, it, it, it

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almost got me right here.
Just like.

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Almost.
Because reading the book, it was

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the same.
It was like, damn you.

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In Game of Thrones universe, A
Song of Ice of Fire, the IT

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doesn't matter what happens if
you do the right thing, if you

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try to be good, you get punished
for it.

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Every time.
I was like, Ned Stark all over

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again, King Viserys all over
again.

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They can't do no good.
Who we need?

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We need that.
What's her name?

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Melissandre.
Or or what's the one that was

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with the Barry Danderian?
What was his name?

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The one that kept bringing him
back?

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Can't think of his name, but we
need him too because I want my

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friends to pay.
Lord, that's.

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Like Thoros Amir or something
like that.

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Yes, Yep, Yep, Yep.
Listen, because I OK, we're just

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going to go ahead and RIP the
Band-Aid off.

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Y'all had to kill.
Y'all had to kill Baylor.

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Really.
Really.

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Fine man, with all that heart
and bravery and fairness.

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And just the.
When he when when he tells Dunk

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the Kingdom needs men like you
like.

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He was like, I need men like
you, the realm.

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And I was just like, I knew it
was coming.

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I knew it was coming.
I didn't know.

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Like I knew that he died from a
blow to the back of the head.

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And I know that I knew that
Maker was the one that that did

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it.
I did read that much.

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But.
But you know, OK, we'll, we'll

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get into that.
But no.

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Let's get into it.
He's a dumb ass.

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Like what?
Why?

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Would you?
Why would you go?

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That hard reason to go that hard
at your brother.

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OK, so I'm going to answer that
question because I thought the

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same thing.
I was like OK, y'all are in like

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if if anybody's going to have to
die, let's be the other people.

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But you the brothers.
I was like, they're not, they're

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not going to do this.
That that was my thinking.

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OK.
Then when I, I just rewatched

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the episode right before we
started recording and what I

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noticed was when Dunk had Ariana
on the ground and Ariana was

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saying, I yield.
When Dunk got up to, you know,

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he turned around and he pulled
Ariana by the leg up to the

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front so that he could tell.
But right in the background of

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that shot, you see three men
fighting.

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The one in the middle pushes off
one of the soldiers and he turns

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around and swings his Mace and
hits the back of the head of the

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other one.
I'd if that was Makor and and

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Baylor, whoever the third person
was, I don't think Makor did it

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on purpose, but I think at the
at that point he had been trying

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to get to his son.
It's a.

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Arian, Yeah.
And those two soldiers were

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holding him back.
So I think in that moment, he

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wasn't thinking about his
brother being on the field or

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whatever.
He just knows he saw his son go

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down.
And regardless of what we think

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about Ariana as a person,
regardless of how he looks at

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Ariana as a person, at the end
of the day, that is still his

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child.
So I think it was more so just I

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need to get to my son.
I need to get y'all away from

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me.
I don't think Makor was paying

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attention to who it was.
He just knew these were people

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that was keeping him from his
child.

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And like, literally right after
that shot, when Dunk is dragging

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Arian, you know, he goes up, he
makes Arian tell them he's

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withdraws the the accusations,
they blow the horn and literally

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everything stops.
So I think it really was maybe

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not an accident because they
were battling each other, but I

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don't think if Macor knew that
was his brother or if he was

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paying attention, I don't think
he would have done that on

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purpose.
Because one of the things that I

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noticed even in the earlier
episodes, Macor has his issues,

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but he does not give off the
vibe of he hates his brother.

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It's kind of similar to Damon
and Viserys in that way.

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Like Damon was a bit more
rebellious.

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Damon had a bit more of a chip
on his shoulder, but but the but

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he had the, you know, he was
upset because technically

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speaking, he should have been
next in line.

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And then Viserys named Raniera.
So he had that extra, you know,

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animosity.
But he still loved Viserys.

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We saw that towards the end,
just in the little ways that he

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was.
I feel the same way with Makor

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like him, Baylor may not get
along well, but I never felt

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like there was animosity there.
I didn't feel like he was one of

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those second sons who just hates
his brother or I want my brother

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to die so I can be the one.
I never got that vibe for him.

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So I don't think it was, I don't
think it was on purpose, I.

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Don't think it was.
I mean, I'm pretty sure it seems

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like they actually had a pretty
good relationship.

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Yeah.
Maker's problem was his sons.

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Maker had all of the angst.
Yeah, all the angst and and and

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stuff he had pent up was about
how bad his kids were or how

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useless whatever was.
That was probably another thing

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too.
He's probably pissed off.

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Like why are we even here?
Oh yeah.

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Which goes back, Yeah.
Which goes back to where?

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What kind of the feeling I'm
getting is do your son put you

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all in this situation?
Exactly.

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And if he's as good as he claims
to be, or you want to see him

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prove himself, you said yourself
you don't want to face him in

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one-on-one combat.
Like really what?

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There was his opportunity.
Yeah.

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You know.
I understand, I understand,

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that's his son.
I understand, I understand all

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that.
But at the same time, you didn't

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raise an objection in the
beginning with your son and make

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your son withdraw his
accusation.

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You know what I'm saying?
He was giving me that Amos

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Diggory, though, for a minute
there when he was trying to get

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to him.
And he was just like my son.

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And I was like, that's how I
feel, some kind of way about

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this evil child on this floor
right now getting his face

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beating because I don't like
this guy and I prefer him dead.

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Yeah, but don't make me feel bad
now because he sounded so like

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he really.
You could tell he loves his

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child even though he loves my.
Son, I was like, oh, Amos

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Diggory, OK.
Yeah, like that was big Amos

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Diggory feelings.
And I was just like, Oh no Sir,

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not make me feel bad about this.
Right.

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And, and the thought never
crossed his mind that Dunk was

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not going to kill Aryan.
He really what, like he, if he

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had been paying attention, Dunk
is an honorable person.

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He's not going to kill Aryan.
But Aryan would have killed Dunk

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if he had the opportunity.
OK, so so let's talk about this,

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because even going back to the
flashback that we saw of Dunk's

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childhood, somebody's one of
them seven guys or all of them

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seven guys.
They are protecting that boy

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because Duck should have died
several times over.

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So many times.
And just.

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The he should have got a sepsis.
He should have like, come on

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like he should have been.
Like, no wonder he is a delicate

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constitution.
He's shitting and throwing up

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all the time.
Yeah.

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But.
But literally the first charge

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you get a Lance to the stomach
then you get let me tell you, I

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was so mad Dina had to watch
this episode yesterday because I

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needed someone to real.
I was like, what?

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The fuck male?
It's still not.

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I was screaming at my TV because
you get the Lance go through,

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you get the knife, you get the
the blow to the head that closes

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his eye.
Then he gets a second blow to

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the head that make like, I've
seen so many Rocky comparisons

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and I'm like, that's literally
what it was.

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He was, he was the Rocky Balboa
of Ashford Metals because Oh my

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goodness, he took a licking.
But he kept on ticking even

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though he laid down.
And he was.

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I really thought I was like OK I
know he gets up because there's

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4 pages written about him in the
Book of Brothers, but you were

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no too.
Convincing, my dude.

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Yeah, well, he also had that
situation where most things,

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when you see people spitting up.
The dark blood.

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You know, that's a major, maybe
your, your, your, your kidney or

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whatever.
Like, you know, it's major and

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you know, people just die
usually.

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And he's just like blood after
blood.

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I'm just like, dude, are you
going to spit all of your blood

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up?
Because what is happening?

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It was horrible.
I think, I think like one of the

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reasons they did the flashback
was to show us this is who he

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really is.
This is where he's really from.

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And that there's a point even in
the book, and the book makes

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this clear.
There was a point where he

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stopped being a knight and
returned to to to.

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Being dumped from Flea Bottom.
From Flea Bottom and and you see

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that change where it became
about survival, you know, and.

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And as big as he is, yeah, you
know, as tough as he is, it was

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going to take a lot more than
they had to stop Dunk from Flea

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Bottom.
Because listen, that fighter

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honorably thing, I get it.
I get it done.

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But when I say Arian came in
fighting dirty, I mean the

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Lance, the knife.
He threw a sword in his thigh.

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Just Arian was coming in for
survival.

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Not only that, not survival,
just of his life.

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He needed his pride restored as
well.

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So he was looking for blood.
He was looking to kill Duncan.

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I think Dunk was still, in a
sense, operating on that honor

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system.
And then after that first time

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he went down and came back up.
He was like, you know what, fuck

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this, I got to survive.
This man couldn't see, he

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couldn't hear.
He could barely stand and he was

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giving it his all.
I was sitting there watching

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this episode like this.
I mean, and and then to see eggs

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reactions to every when Dunk
fell, he was like, get up, get

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up to y'all.
And and I know Ariana felt some

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kind of way about this because
right, that's your brother.

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You're almost the victor.
Your baby brother is screaming

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for everyone to hear for this
man that you've accused to get

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up.
Like you hear the emotion in his

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voice.
You hear the love in his voice.

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You, you, you cheer for him.
When they got ready to blow that

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horn and he saw Dunk moving, he
went.

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I burst into tears.
I was.

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I was with me, Anthony.
I was.

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Done.
Get up, get up, Sir.

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I just Oh my God, sobbing like.
Oh, this?

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Little boy is so good.
I'm surprised he had a, he had a

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voice after that scene.
He had a he was like if anybody

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in that in that field had any
doubt at all where eggs

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loyalties lied.
Yeah.

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No.
And then the people, yeah.

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But you.
Know.

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It took y'all a minute because.
But that was the those were the

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small folk, because at first
they wasn't showing that the

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small folk was out there
watching.

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There was only showing the
Lords.

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But then the small folks were
the ones that was like, yeah.

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When old girl stood up in the
thing and she was like, yes, I

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was like OK.
Like she's like, OK, I'm a

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whore.
I probably need to sit down

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because hilarious.
It was so, Oh my gosh, this, you

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know, it gave me that Battle of
the Bastards feel because it was

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all muddy.
It was just, it just felt like

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hopeless.
Oh my gosh.

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People have been saying people
like so many people I've, I've

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been just kind of seeing the
discourse on, on, on threads and

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so many people were like, this
was my favorite Game of Thrones

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battle ever.
Like people are loving the show,

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they're loving this battle and
they're, they're loving this

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episode.
And it's just like, there was so

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much into it because you got the
people.

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And this is the one thing about
Game of Thrones, regardless of

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how you felt about the last
season of the main show,

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regardless of how you feel about
how the pacing of House of the

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Dragon, one thing Game of
Thrones does exceedingly well,

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they give us characters that we
fall in love with, whether we

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sing them once, whether we see
them 100 times.

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Those characters stick with us.
And I felt all of it in this

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episode.
I was just like, I'm paying so

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much attention to the Dunk and
Arian, but I'm still trying to

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figure out where's Raymond?
What, what's going on with him?

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Like so much stuff was going on
and there was so much movement.

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I couldn't tell who was who.
I know Raymond knocked Arion

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down I think twice while he was
fighting Dunk.

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He was about to get the upper
hand on Dunk and here comes

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Raymond knocking him down.
So I was like, OK, Mr. Brand New

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Night for all the 5 minutes, OK,
you're, you're doing your

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contribution.
And then when we see him at the

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end, when he's the one that's
helping Dunk off the field, I

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was just lying.
Yeah, little limp, but I'm still

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here.
Still here.

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And then they had Lionel
Baratheon with his Baratheon

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helm on baby with.
That.

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Hitler's out there here.
And got knocked on his ass.

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I was like, if this man dies
because everybody was talking

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about him too, They were like, I
think Lionel Baratheon is

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probably my most favorite
Baratheon ever.

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And I was like, are there any
other good Baratheons?

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I think for me friendly may have
come close because he wasn't

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raised the Baratheon so he it's
like.

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That is true.
He doesn't have the Baratheon

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whatever to make he.
Doesn't have any of their

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characteristics, their traits,
none of their taints.

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Let's put it like that.
He doesn't have that taint.

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So I don't really count him in
that sense because Robert was

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already dead when he found out
that he was a Baratheon, you

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know, so.
Yeah, and Stannis.

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Stannis wasn't bad until he got
influenced by Melisandre by.

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That red couch.
Up until that point, he was

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actually pretty decent, yeah.
He was just a rule follower.

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He was a rule follower.
He was a stand up man.

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Up until she told yeah.
Up until she told him he had to

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kill his daughter to win the
war.

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And then but.
Even before all that, just the

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way that he was with his
daughter, like I just, I never

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really cared for staying this
much.

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Yeah, he's not.
He's not a person I like at.

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All no.
And then it's like what's?

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So horrible, like even Robert
wasn't horrible, he just he just

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got friends on and then they
didn't like it and then he.

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Was a whore.
That was his fault.

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He was a whore and a drunk.
He wasn't a drunk, but he

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couldn't have.
Because that's the thing.

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I wonder if he had the woman he
really wanted, would he have

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been like that?
You know, it's clear that he was

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only like that because he didn't
get what he wanted, which was

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Liana's start.
And dude, he didn't want you.

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It's it is what it is.
But that's why they need to stop

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promising these babies to each
other.

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Right.
But but I think the other thing

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too with Robert that we have to
remember is he didn't realize

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that Liana didn't want him also
back.

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She ran off back she ran off and
that whole little, you know,

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yeah.
So anyway, but that that's a

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whole other thing.
But you know, going back to

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going back to the trial of the
of the seven nights is just

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there.
Was that like one of the things

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I thought about?
I said, hey, Can you believe

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we're going through all of this
drama and trauma and bloodshed

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because somebody decided to hold
attorney for his daughter's

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birthday?
Like, you know, the daughter is

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just sitting there like, all I
wanted to do was show off my

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pretty dress and here we are and
people are dying.

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Like, Can you imagine you'll
forever be known as the person

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whose birthday was ruined by the
death of the Prince?

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The.
Prince, the next in line, the

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air.
The one that everybody loved,

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like I just there's Beautiful
Prince.

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There's going to be so much
guilt going around in the next

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episode.
You, you can feel it, you know?

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Dunk already feels it because.
When Dunk got down on that knee

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and was like your grace, I'm
your man, please, I'm your man.

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I was like y'all gonna make me
cry because I did.

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I was 3 when I was.
Not you know who's not going to

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be guilty.
That.

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Crazy, I think I'm a.
Dragon face ass boy.

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Guilt is going to be arrogant.
Yeah, He ain't feeling no guilt.

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Yeah, he should have died, but.
Well, you know, George RR Martin

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loves to let people live who
don't deserve to live.

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He does that on purpose and
everything because why?

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Why was why did?
Why did any of them people who

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deserve to die in Game of
Thrones last last season?

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And we're not going to talk
about Cersei's little romantic

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pretty.
OK, Anyway, no, we're not going

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down that tangent.
But yeah, the fact that the fact

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that he put himself in the the
the list or into the the trial

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because he believed in Dunk, he
believed in what Dunk stood for.

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But the thing that got me was
when I did the rewatch and he

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was talking with their seven and
he was, you know, telling them,

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hey, stand steady, stand firm,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Do this, do that.
And somebody asked him was like,

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well, what about the Kingsguard?
And he was like, I'll handle the

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Kingsguard because they are
sworn not to.

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They can't touch me.
And the question was asked is

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that is that just or is that
true or is that something?

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And he was like.
You say, is that honorable?

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Yeah.
And he was like, well, the gods

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will decide.
And I was like, I guess they

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decided they were like, you know
what?

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No, we're not going to do that.
But it's so, I don't know,

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because I feel like he did the
right thing, like you say, does

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the right thing.
Because this man would have died

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for some bullshit that his
nephew caused.

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But you never know, the guys
could have looked at it like

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this too.
Like, yeah, I understand this,

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this guy, blah, blah, blah, but
that's still your family.

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You don't turn your back on your
family.

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Either way.
Well, he he not really, since

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he's a knight and he is sworn to
uphold honor.

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And he was trying and he was
doing what he thought was

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honorable.
Yeah.

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Aryan was not.
Aryan was not.

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There was no honor.
There was no honor in breaking.

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There was no honor in breaking
Tanzel's fingers.

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Yeah, yeah.
And you?

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Were killing her father.
There was no honor in that.

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Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.

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But Oh my goodness.
Yeah.

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When, when he, when he did that
meal and, and, and Prince Baylor

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basically was like, yeah, we
need men like you.

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And then when he started talking
about his helm and he asked her

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and he was like, so Raymond,
help, you know, some help with

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my helm, please.
And he said the visors cracked.

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Raymond immediately, like his
whole face changed.

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He was like, oh, shit.
Cuz when you look at it, you see

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a little bit of the crack and
it's just kind of like, OK, he

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might have some damage.
And then he turns around and

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look, he was like, so the helmet
is like dented down into the

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gorget.
Yeah.

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Hey, I'm gonna need you to come
help me.

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When he took that off you like,
literally the change on Baylor's

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face was almost immediately.
It was kind of like, oh,

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something's not right here.
And he, when he, when he reached

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his hand back there and he
looked and then he turned around

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and you saw there was literally
a chunk of his head gone.

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I was just like, like you
literally had.

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I was telling Dana before I said
it.

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It reminded me of the scene and
signs where Mel Gibson was going

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to talk to his wife after she
had been pinned to the tree.

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And they told him they were
like, look, this is going to be

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the last conversation.
If we move the car, she's gone.

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And it was like literally the,
the, the car pinning her to the

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tree was the only thing keeping
her alive and keeping her

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coherent.
Same thing with Dean Winchester

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when he when he got impaled on
the nail, Sam was going to move

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and he was like, Nope, Nope.
I think this thing is holding me

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together.
Leave me here.

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That's that's kind of what I
felt like.

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And once they removed that helm,
I'm pretty sure that little

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chunk of his head was probably
inside the helm and it was just

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it was done by that point.
In the in the book, they

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actually, yeah, the way it's
described in the book, you

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actually can see his brain.
So that's how bad it was.

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Because I mean, the Mace is no
joke.

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Like when you see people's heads
getting crushed on other stuff,

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like it's even out here on the
other Game of Thrones, like

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people's heads getting crushed
with a Mace and it ain't no

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joke.
And, and The thing is, when he

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was talking to Sir Raymond about
it, when Sir Raymond told him

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how the damage was, he said
probably my brother Makor, he's

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strong.
He was saying it with a little

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humor in his voice, like, yeah.
Strong.

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You know, and I just that was so
painful because once he realized

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it's like, oh, you see the
blood, oh, turn around, drop and

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to Duncan's arms.
And the thing that got me the

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most about that scene, like
everybody is horrified, but you

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hear little Egg's voice when
when Baylor turns around, Egg

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says, no, I was done.
I was done.

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I was like, I can't this little
this little boy, all he wanted

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to do was go to attorney.
That's why.

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So you know, he's going to feel
a little bit about that, too.

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Oh yeah.
Because all of this happened

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because he he left, he escaped.
He he kind of sort of lied about

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who he was.
Or I should say he didn't lie.

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He didn't correct, Sir, not not
forcefully, 'cause he told Don,

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yeah, that's not my Mama.
But he didn't say I'm not the

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stable boy.
He didn't say I'm Prince

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Targaryen, you know.
I don't know.

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I I have a hard time.
I have a hard time seeing he had

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has any blame in this?
I really no.

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I'm not, I'm not.
I'm not saying.

442
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,640
I don't blame him.
Definitely said some stuff

443
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,080
going, you know, yeah, he's.
Going to feel that blame because

444
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,200
he's going to be like, Oh well,
if I hadn't run away then they

445
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,800
wouldn't have come looking for
me and Daron wouldn't have had

446
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,960
to applied.
And there's just so many things

447
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,600
that trickle down, and he's
going to feel that blame because

448
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,600
he's a kid.
You know, he didn't do it on

449
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,760
purpose.
His uncle.

450
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,840
He seemed more close to his
uncle than he did to his own

451
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,080
dad.
Yeah, but his uncle probably

452
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,400
also treated him better because,
you know, he was just that kind

453
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,000
of person.
He was a kind person as far as

454
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,160
main court goes.
Oh, you're the fourth son.

455
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,520
You he's probably not even quote
UN quote important to him

456
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,040
because most of the time when it
comes to those types of

457
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:53,080
families, when it comes to
theirs and successions, they're

458
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,240
not paying attention that far
down the line, you know but.

459
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,640
I don't think it doesn't.
He doesn't care about him, but

460
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,200
he's not exactly on his priority
list of things.

461
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,840
You know, I mean, he cared.
About, but he at least got him.

462
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,080
Looking for him.
But, you know, again, it's, I

463
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,680
think a lot of that still also
has to do with that whole

464
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:21,600
Targaryen pride thing, you know?
Oh, side note, for those

465
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,280
listeners who are a stickler for
these things, we know it's a

466
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:31,080
flail and not a Mace.
OK, We're just going to, some of

467
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,880
us just going to say Mace, but
we know it was a flail.

468
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,000
We're not in the, we're not in
the old English, old medieval

469
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,440
times.
Nobody cares.

470
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,440
It's a flail.
Good flail.

471
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:53,000
OK, But let's let's talk about
Duncan's flashback for a little

472
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,840
bit, because I've seen kind of
mixed reaction.

473
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,400
Some people think that they
shouldn't have put that in there

474
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,720
because it took away from the
trial.

475
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,480
But I think it was very
important for us to see kind of

476
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,320
where Dunk comes from because we
don't have a lot of information

477
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,880
about his past except for what
we've seen in his memories with

478
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,320
Sir Arlen, I think it was.
You also get to see he's been

479
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,240
tough his whole life because he
got stabbed in the leg with a

480
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,400
spear and walked it off.
After watching his best friend,

481
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:31,720
his only friend, die from her
throat being slit, you know, But

482
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,400
you know, we always talk about
even with Game of Thrones, we

483
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,840
talk about Flea Bottom and we
know that Flea Bottom is bad.

484
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:46,640
We know it's like just the
slums, the, you know, the

485
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,800
unhoused, The Dirty.
I mean, we we've seen various,

486
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,320
you know, glimpses of it
throughout the the two shows

487
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,520
that exist right now.
But I don't know if I've ever

488
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,760
seen it as gritty as it was in
this episode.

489
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:10,760
Like, you really get to see how
bad the conditions were.

490
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,440
And I mean, we saw it a little
bit in Game of Thrones when

491
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,320
Marjorie was out in the streets
tending to the people.

492
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:24,560
But the fact that you are living
under the stable in the crawl

493
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,600
space, that, you know, the
animals are there and they're

494
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,120
doing their business and they're
eating and it's just there's so

495
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:39,640
much about seeing that that kind
of makes you.

496
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:45,000
I think I felt like I understood
Dunk a little bit better because

497
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,920
you already see he he doesn't
have parents.

498
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,920
His mom is dead.
But, you know, that was the

499
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,840
other thing.
He he knows his mom is dead, but

500
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,360
he was still waiting for her to
come to him.

501
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,320
I was like, kind of hope, like,
yeah, I know she, I know she's

502
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,880
dead, but what if she's just
stuck in a place like this?

503
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,720
And that made me feel like maybe
he doesn't know for sure that

504
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,720
his mom is dead.
He just assumed because she

505
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:12,240
never came back from.
But I don't know.

506
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,400
This is it's almost like this is
what Sir Davos was talking about

507
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,920
when he talked about Flea
Bottom.

508
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:27,560
Yeah, yeah, because it's like
you hear, you hear about how bad

509
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,320
it is and you can kind of
visualize it in your mind and

510
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,320
you see little bits and pieces
there.

511
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,240
But I would say I think the Game
of Thrones version of Flea

512
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,440
Bottom is probably a little more
cleaned up than this version

513
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,360
because it's also older.
Things have probably changed.

514
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,920
You know, I'm assuming when
Aegon, when a gets into his, his

515
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,920
throne, that he, he probably
tries to make things a little

516
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,920
bit better for the small folk
because in this show, he kind

517
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,040
of, I don't want to say he
considers himself the small

518
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,760
folk, but he, I feel like he has
more empathy for them than the

519
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,840
rest of the Targaryens do.
Well, he gets to, he got to see

520
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,680
some of it, but he got to see
what it was like for small, for

521
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,160
small folk first hand and.
Then he has Duncan, who is like

522
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,440
the most honorable, kindest,
gentlest person he ever met.

523
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,080
He's clearly from Flea Bottom.
And he's like, if this is what

524
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,480
it's like, if people like him
come from Flea Bottom, like.

525
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,480
And are still this good.
Still this good?

526
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,760
Yeah.
But then you got people like

527
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,880
Alistair walking around Flea
Bottom.

528
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,040
So I just know anybody named
Alistair in the Game of Thrones

529
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,320
universe, I'm automatically not
going to like him.

530
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,240
I'm just if your name is
Alistair, you a fuck boy,

531
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,720
period.
You're a fuck boy.

532
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,840
Did you notice he was missing
his right hand?

533
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,560
So that means he was a thief.
It was all over her neck and I

534
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,880
was like, what is that?
And I was like, oh, I.

535
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,600
Didn't even pay attention.
Yeah, they were letting you know

536
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,520
he was a bad guy.
He was a big thief like this.

537
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,360
And I was just like.
What is that thing?

538
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,120
Oh, that's not.
Oh, that's a a.

539
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,400
Stump Oh, well, you know it.
It still did its job because Oh

540
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,400
my goodness.
But yeah, as soon as we got the

541
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,320
flashback, soon as we are
introduced to Rafe, I was like,

542
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,640
she's going to die.
He's going to die.

543
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:37,520
And I thought, you know, it was
nice to see him have somebody

544
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,240
and to see just kind of, you
know, like his origins, like

545
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,600
he's stealing stuff off of dead
people because that's how he's,

546
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,360
you know, that's how they're
surviving.

547
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,920
That's how they're making money
because they're selling those

548
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,080
things.
And the fact that they tried to

549
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,480
sell the stuff to go to the Free
Cities and it still wasn't

550
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,560
enough.
Like, no, you could've just

551
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,240
taken the two the the silver,
but then we wouldn't have the

552
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:08,199
store we have.
But yeah, Rafe is one of those

553
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:12,880
characters.
I was like, OK, so you kind of

554
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:19,400
see where I think where Duncan
gets his, his empathy, but also

555
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,639
where he cares about people.
And I've thought I was like,

556
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,679
hmm, she kind of reminds me a
little bit of Tanzel too, you

557
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,320
know?
And that might have been kind of

558
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,159
the draw for him with Tanzel,
like, oh, she reminds me of

559
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,159
Wraith.
Yeah, that's probably exactly

560
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:39,040
what it was.
Yeah, but the fact that she was,

561
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:40,960
you know, she was there to take
care of him.

562
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,360
She was there to, you know, kind
of be like, hey, we're not going

563
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,760
to stay in this place.
What did she say?

564
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,040
This place, this city is too
small for us.

565
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,280
Like, she just wanted them to
get out, go to the Free Cities,

566
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,000
get into a better situation.
And poor Dunk, he was like, what

567
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,720
if this is the best there is?
I was like, baby, no, this can't

568
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:04,120
be the best there is 'cause this
is not, this is not good.

569
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,960
Yeah, ain't nothing good about
this and the way y'all living.

570
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,040
Right, but then also Rafe,
Dammit, Rafe.

571
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,640
Why are why are you antagonizing
this asshole?

572
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,360
You already see the heat like
the I think the thing that

573
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,280
really bothered me about her is
I get it.

574
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,280
She buck in the system.
She she, she's I get it.

575
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,680
I get it.
The thing that pissed me off,

576
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:42,920
when you steal Alastair's knife,
when you steal his dagger, you

577
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,400
tuck it into your belt, but
you're walking slowly away.

578
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,200
What?
He's not dumb.

579
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,040
He knew.
He knew you.

580
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:53,760
Stole it first of all y'all
should have been running he

581
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,480
would have expected it because
y'all literally just threaten

582
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,720
him so it it would have been
easier.

583
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,440
I mean you got away from him so
easily the first time when you

584
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,600
stole his ale skin.
You could have just done it.

585
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,360
But no, you're sitting there
smiling and putting the I was

586
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,520
like, this is not going to end
well.

587
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,840
Because here's the other thing,
you know what kind of people,

588
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,080
what kind of person he is, or I
should say people cuz he had one

589
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,120
other person with him.
Why are you tucking the knife in

590
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,160
your belt?
That knife should have been in

591
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,080
her hand.
It should have been in Alistair.

592
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,680
I would have went ahead and
ended that.

593
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,720
Well, that that too, but if she
should have had it in her hand

594
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:34,960
that way when he came around to
her, she could've taken care of

595
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,280
that.
They could've taken off.

596
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,840
Hell, you used to steal the
stuff off of dead people.

597
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,720
You probably could've stole
something from him.

598
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,960
He probably had some stuff.
But I that whole situation just

599
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,440
made me so mad.
But then when he slits her

600
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:56,800
throat and Dunk attacks him and
starts biting him, boom, here

601
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,120
comes Sir Arlen out of the bar.
And when I say Danny?

602
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:07,520
Tree bitch.
Listen, I, I don't know what I

603
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,840
was expecting.
I was not expecting him to come

604
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,240
out of there drunk and whooping
ass.

605
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:17,080
I thought, I thought we were
going to see Sir Arlen and all

606
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,520
his glory.
Because the way the Dunk talks

607
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,640
about him, you know, he talks
about how how good of a night he

608
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,720
was, how kind he was, how he
treated him like family and how,

609
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,200
you know, all he was doing was
protecting the innocent.

610
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,280
So I'm thinking this far back,
we're going to see a more

611
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,920
polished version of Sir Arlen
or, you know, I was not

612
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:47,040
expecting what we got, But it
was again, I guess in a way

613
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,680
you're bringing, you're bringing
a little bit of the comedy back

614
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,280
to the episode because he comes
out and he's stumbling and he's

615
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,560
fumbling with his sword, but he
still manages to fight.

616
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,560
He like, beheads the first guy
as if he were cleaning his

617
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,880
fingernails.
It was so quick, so easy, so

618
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,920
fast.
I was like, wait, what?

619
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,160
What?
And he not only drunk though, he

620
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,040
wasn't just drunk, he was so
drunk that he was already

621
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,160
vomiting, so he had been
drinking for a while.

622
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,920
For him to even be able to walk
is amazing.

623
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,600
But I will say I did have an
alcoholic uncle.

624
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,880
And when you're an alcoholic and
it's constant, you can do so

625
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,760
many things that no people could
not do on one drink.

626
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Yeah, but I wouldn't expect you
to be able to fight 2 two guys,

627
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,120
behead 1, kill the other and
like amidst.

628
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,200
But I'm going to finish this
plan.

629
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,160
He came in there taking names
and kicking ass.

630
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,960
I was like, whoa.
Yeah, it's like you, you wanted

631
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,680
you.
You would have wanted to say

632
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,960
that.
Maybe Sir Arlen was a crappy

633
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,920
night.
Maybe he wasn't.

634
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,200
He was a good night.
He just happened to be a hedge

635
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,240
knight.
Yeah, and an alcoholic.

636
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,920
An alcoholic.
That's probably why he couldn't.

637
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,320
Alcoholic because he was just a
hedge knight.

638
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,440
Maybe he knew he was good, he
was better and and should have

639
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,680
been, you know, a regular night
or whatever, whatever, like

640
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,880
whatever happened to him in life
probably just beat him down

641
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,040
because you you don't see him
just in that instance.

642
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,000
After everything happens, Dunk
follows Sir Arlen.

643
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:35,200
Oh my God, for so long for.
So long and Arlen is drunk

644
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,680
almost the entire time and he's
speaking in a weird language and

645
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,840
he's.
The Thraki.

646
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,120
Is that what?
You're speaking the Thraki.

647
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,960
So he and I saw 100, that's how
he he'd have been out there in

648
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,560
the streets partying because.
He has.

649
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,320
He's been all over the world.
Listen.

650
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,840
I don't think headlights live
that long.

651
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,840
I mean, think about when he
found out they can.

652
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,240
I think we talked about this in
the first our first episode.

653
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,440
He found they can.
He was already a old man.

654
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he he had to been close to

655
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,960
40 because he was almost 60 when
he died.

656
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:18,280
Yeah, yeah.
So, but the whole thing with

657
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:26,280
Duncan following him, first of
all, you have, you have a, a, a

658
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,040
gross wound in your leg from
where this this man stabbed you.

659
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Just festering, like how are you
not dead?

660
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,680
Then you're following this man.
And is it?

661
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,200
Does Sir Arlen know that Dunk
was following him?

662
00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:46,800
That's what I was wondering too
because I was like wow, I know

663
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,040
he's he's clearly a drunk and
he's clearly in his own world

664
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,200
but I feel like he has to know
his surroundings because how has

665
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,240
he still got 3 fucking horses
and ain't nobody took the horses

666
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:00,000
from him right?
That's what I was wondering

667
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,640
around the world and nobody's
robbed him or anything.

668
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,880
So I feel like he has to have
his wits about him even though

669
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,400
he is toe up.
I'm sorry, even if this is

670
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,680
modeled after medieval times and
even, you know, here in America,

671
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,960
in the Westerns, you don't, you
don't steal a horse.

672
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,600
That's like the worst thing you
can do is steal somebody's

673
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,280
horse.
You can win it in the contest,

674
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,320
you can buy it from them, but
you don't take a man's horse.

675
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,280
But.
You don't do that.

676
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,520
But the fact that Dunk was
following him for so long, like

677
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,160
literally like Sir Arlen is on a
horse.

678
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,160
Dunk is walking with an infected
leg or with an injured leg.

679
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,280
Because I will be honest, if it
was infected, he he really

680
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,720
should have been dead.
It's not like he had he was

681
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:54,480
carrying around antibiotics or
anything like that.

682
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,080
And then you're sleeping
outside.

683
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,560
You have no, you have nothing
like Dunk literally left with

684
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,320
the clothes on his back and
that's it.

685
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:11,800
Have nothing else, no fire.
You're you're sleeping out in

686
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,040
the elements and then you're
drinking that dirty water

687
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,320
because we.
Dirty water.

688
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,560
And he's drank that well.
I said, oh, he's going to be

689
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,400
sick.
And then we see him throwing up.

690
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,880
I said OK, you know what?
But you know what I thought

691
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,360
about?
I'm like, he's from Flea Bottom.

692
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,840
He probably drink brown water.
You're right.

693
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,800
So he was like, what is water?
Yeah, yeah.

694
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,680
And, you know, from the castles,
the, the poop and the pee from

695
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,000
the castles were drained down
into the city.

696
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,800
Yeah, You know, that was
literally Windsor castles and

697
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,400
all those castles for real in
real life.

698
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,520
So he was probably used to
drinking brown water.

699
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:54,520
I do, but it's just like if we
were to go to New, go to

700
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,880
Antarctica right now and drink
like melted water or snow capped

701
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,640
water, we would probably die
because we don't know what's in

702
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,240
that water.
We're used to what water we

703
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:05,000
have.
So, you know, even if it was

704
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,360
dirty water from Flea Bottom,
this dirty water from the bushes

705
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,440
or wherever the hell he was,
there's probably some different

706
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,400
microbes in there, you know?
Yeah, 'cause even when we were,

707
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,960
even when we were in Europe,
they were like, yeah, don't

708
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,760
drink the tap water, 'cause your
bodies are not prepared for.

709
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,120
And they tell you that when you
go to Mexico, too, they're like,

710
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,560
yeah.
And and and parts of Asia, Yep.

711
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:37,240
But.
Yeah, I like seeing the

712
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:40,960
flashback because again, like
you said, it shows Duncan's grit

713
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,280
and his determination, you know,
because he could have stayed in

714
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,640
Flea Bottom.
But I think I think one of the

715
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,960
reasons why he probably follow
Sir Arlen was because he

716
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,160
remembered that's not what Rafe
wanted for him, you know, and

717
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,480
literally she died while they
were trying to get out of there.

718
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,240
So I think he was like, I'm not
going to stay here because guess

719
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,360
what?
If I stay here, I'm going to

720
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,400
die.
Because especially like, we

721
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,720
don't know how that little scene
got cleaned up.

722
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,040
We don't know who Alistair is.
We don't know if people were

723
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,120
looking for Dunk because
obviously Duncan Rafe were a a

724
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,520
a, they were a set.
You see when you see the other.

725
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,640
So at some point you see rave
line in the street where her

726
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,600
throat cut.
Somebody's going to go looking

727
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,360
for him.
So it probably wasn't safe for

728
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:39,920
him to stay in flea bottle
either, you know, But that

729
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,600
determination and then again,
his love and his respect for Sir

730
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,400
Arlen comes through because Sir
Arlen is the face that he sees

731
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,960
when he's when, you know, when
Sir Arlen says get up, that's

732
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,240
when he gets up because he's
knocked out and unconscious

733
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:59,320
twice during this whole thing.
Like really, Arion, if you were

734
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,960
smart, you should have handled
your business.

735
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:06,720
Like what were you doing?
He was trying, he was trying.

736
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,920
He really was.
Yeah.

737
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,600
He was trying to get this over
as fast as possible, he really

738
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,080
was.
But you know, we're we're also

739
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,640
looking at it like it's a few
minutes for us.

740
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,720
That probably was only seconds
for dunk it.

741
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,760
Was it was an instant.
Yeah, it was probably instant

742
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,800
because yeah, if Ariel was
paying attention, he should

743
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,040
have.
Dunk should have been dead.

744
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,120
Like you already have a wound in
your stomach, a wound in your

745
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,080
chest, a wound on your neck,
your eye, your thigh.

746
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,120
I mean, ain't much left.
You're already a a human

747
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,040
pincushion at this point.
But.

748
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,840
The man is big.
The man.

749
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,360
He is a big guy.
We were talking about that, you

750
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,840
know, like what, what was the
point of that chainmail?

751
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,920
And I was thinking, I'm like.
Is all, is all.

752
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,960
Aryans weapons Valyrian still
because like why is a chainmail

753
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,960
not working at all?
Yeah.

754
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,520
Like it ain't deflecting shit.
But you know what the good thing

755
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,560
is?
Hold on, hold on listeners.

756
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,760
We know that pointy objects you
got to stick in with the pointy

757
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,280
end because of the chainmail.
Chainmail helps with glancing

758
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,000
blows, but you got to do the
pointy end.

759
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,800
But Stevie Page says that that
chainmail actually did save

760
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,720
Duncan because he says that when
the sword went through, it

761
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:30,480
pushed the chainmail.
Into the womb.

762
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,520
And that's why he wasn't
bleeding out.

763
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,400
And I was like, OK, that's
that's weird, but OK.

764
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,440
But I will, I will say this for
I will say this for Ariana, as

765
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,360
much as we don't like him, as
much as he fights dirty, he was

766
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,000
prepared because he came in
there swinging.

767
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,360
He came in and fighting.
And, and the thing about Dunk

768
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,280
is, yeah, Dunk is big.
Dunk says he's a knight and he

769
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,440
knows how to fight.
But Dunk had never been in that

770
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,760
position before.
He had never, he's never seen

771
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,120
battle.
And so the reactions that he was

772
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,160
having the the throwing up that
he did even before the list, now

773
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,480
I get it when he says, wait, I
can't fight until tomorrow, then

774
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,080
why was I throwing up today?
Because that's what he does when

775
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,640
he gets nervous, apparently when
you know, when he gets nervous

776
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,560
or when he gets scared.
But the fact that this is the

777
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,720
other thing I really loved about
the episode.

778
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,360
We got to see all of it through
dunks eyes.

779
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:38,640
So you got to see what he saw.
You got to hear his breathing.

780
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,520
You heard that he was nervous.
You heard that he was scared.

781
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,040
You got to cut it.
It.

782
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,560
It's like if I felt the
apprehension and I felt the fear

783
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,800
when they were showing us the
viewpoint from his helm.

784
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,760
Because it's kind of like one.
Who the fuck is seen in those

785
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,120
Helms?
Just about the same.

786
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,440
You had this much vision.
What?

787
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,240
How?
Yeah.

788
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,440
In the book Steely Pete talks
about a visor because he's like

789
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,480
visors are bad because they can
get jammed and messed up and so

790
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,320
he gave him a helmet that has
slits.

791
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,080
Yeah, which is, and they
probably helped him because even

792
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,800
though his eye got damaged, it
could have been a lot worse.

793
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,680
Yeah.
Because Ariana was going for

794
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,440
blood.
Now I will say this.

795
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:42,320
Ariana, at least he at least he
knew when to stop because he was

796
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,120
like, this fucker is about to
kill me.

797
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,200
Yeah, I need to say I need to
give up.

798
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,360
What?
What he was just like, OK.

799
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,800
And that's going to be the
other.

800
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Maybe not guilt for him, but you
know he's about to be like hella

801
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,800
embarrassed because not only did
you bring these charges against

802
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,840
this dude and then you demanded
this trial by 7 that you ended

803
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,920
up losing when you went up
against him to fight him

804
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,720
one-on-one.
You had the upper hand for a

805
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:20,080
long time.
He was showing his skill, too.

806
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,160
He's pretty skilled.
He's pretty.

807
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:22,680
Skilled.
Yeah.

808
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,720
And you still lost.
You still got, you know, handed

809
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:31,120
to you.
Because when he first walked him

810
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:36,160
in the tent, he, Ariana, wasn't
prepared for a fight because

811
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,400
he's the Prince and ain't nobody
just going to walk in here in

812
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,040
this tent and whoop my ass.
So he wasn't prepared for this

813
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,720
big giant to come in there and
just start wailing on him and

814
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:51,320
kicking him in the chest.
But this time he's like, now I

815
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,440
can do something.
Let me show you what I can do.

816
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,160
I'll give him this.
He was, he was well prepared.

817
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,560
He was very.
Trained.

818
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,080
But like you said, but.
He wasn't ready.

819
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,760
He wasn't ready for a brawl.
He wasn't ready for a brawl.

820
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,760
He was.
He's never been, I don't think

821
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,040
he's ever been in a bar.
Fight.

822
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:08,880
No.
And and never had the.

823
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,000
Yeah, because like you said, at
that point it was dumped from

824
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,480
Flea Bottom.
It wasn't Dunk.

825
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,440
It wasn't Sir Duncan.
The tall dump was like, I got to

826
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,240
survive.
I got to make it out of here.

827
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,280
This is I I did not come here to
die today.

828
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:32,360
Not like this, you know, But
yeah, Can you imagine being

829
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,480
Arianne the next day like you
asked for?

830
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,040
Ask back to you.
You asked for a trial of seven.

831
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,800
You got it.
Several people died, including

832
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,360
your uncle, the favorite son,
the Prince.

833
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,640
The the heir apparent.
Right.

834
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,040
Oh yeah, being being pissed
about this.

835
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,480
You, you.
Oh, right, right.

836
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,200
Then you withdrew your
accusations after all of this,

837
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,200
and now you have to live with it
because Dunk was too honorable

838
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,040
to kill you all.
Don't want it was for you to say

839
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,400
look, I didn't like right?
Like he's not.

840
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,200
Guilty like I'm not.
Yeah, yeah, he could have

841
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,160
smashed his whole head in the
ground and been done with him

842
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,320
because.
With his own shield.

843
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:30,040
Yeah, because the egg was like,
kill him, kill him.

844
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,520
Listen, his brother was like
kill him.

845
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:37,880
Please again, if y'all if if
y'all don't understand how bad

846
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:44,440
this guy is, the fact that his
little brother is on the other

847
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,480
side, man, please.
And that whole little exchange

848
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:56,760
with them right before when
Duncan gets ready to go into the

849
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,640
arena.
And I feel like Egg was about to

850
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,960
apologize to him and don't cut
him off and he was like Squire

851
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,600
my Lance.
And then he turns around and

852
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,560
tells him the whole thing.
He was like, you better be here

853
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,880
when I get back and if you
robbed me, I'll come after you

854
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,480
with dogs and then Egg barks at
him.

855
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,440
I was like, oh, that's so sweet,
because I feel like that was

856
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,760
dunk basically telling Egg all
is forgiven.

857
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,720
Like you know, I hold no ill
will.

858
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:35,640
You know, you, you might do we,
we, we cool and listen, just

859
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,080
next episode is going to be
heartbreaking because, because

860
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,600
now we have to deal with the
consequences of all of this.

861
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:47,480
And did you guys watch the the
preview for the next episode?

862
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:48,560
Yeah.
Yeah.

863
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,640
Macor sounds broken.
Yeah.

864
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:57,240
Oh, yeah.
Like you said, he probably could

865
00:52:57,240 --> 00:53:02,720
have put a stop to this.
He could have threaten the shit

866
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:04,160
out of his head, like yo, shut
your ass up.

867
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,880
You know he could have done
something so that this didn't

868
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,440
have to be.
It's your kid, right?

869
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,880
Keep keep his ass a check, you
know what I mean?

870
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,280
There's one thing Targaryens
don't seem to do very well.

871
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,800
And, and The thing is like, they
were so concerned with saving

872
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,720
Targaryen face or whatever, they
could, they could have told

873
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:33,000
that, look, if you say you're
going to go to the wall, then

874
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,040
it's over.
You know what I mean?

875
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,520
Like if you do that, I'm, I'm
just saying they had outs, they

876
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,720
had an out.
They could have saved face

877
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,720
numerous ways.
And would have gone happily to

878
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,080
the wall because he still would
have been able to serve the

879
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,960
realm and like, be, you know,
somebody.

880
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,240
I feel like he would have been
OK with it.

881
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,880
Because there are plenty of
Knights at the wall for various,

882
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:03,680
various reasons.
And, and he, he could have, he,

883
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,200
the Targamians had an out, They
didn't take it and now they have

884
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:15,120
to suffer the consequences.
And I'm sure Macor is is pretty

885
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,000
sure he knows he's the one that
killed his brother and he's

886
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,200
going to have to carry that with
him for a long time.

887
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,880
Yeah, again, there's going to be
a lot of killing that next

888
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,760
episode.
Yeah, because killing him

889
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,640
doesn't get him to the throne
because he's got two sons.

890
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,720
Yeah.
Yeah, and he's and your dad,

891
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:37,800
your father is not going to name
you Air because right, He

892
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,200
killed, right?
Yeah, yeah, he'll.

893
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,840
Still be in Vaylar because he's
he's actually next in line,

894
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,080
right.
I think it's Vaylar's next.

895
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:46,840
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.

896
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,440
Bolar and this this scene when
when going back to when they

897
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,960
found out that when Dunk and
they're bringing Dunk in and

898
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,680
Dunk as did anybody die?
And they're like, oh.

899
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,640
Oh gosh, Beesburg and and.
H.

900
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,560
Harding.
Is it Harding?

901
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,600
Something like that, I can't
remember.

902
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,240
You know, they died at the very
beginning, right?

903
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,680
And then he kind of took a
breath because he thought, good,

904
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,360
nobody else died.
Like I didn't really know them

905
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,160
anyway.
So in his mind, I'm sure he

906
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,000
probably felt a little comfort.
And then for this man to drop

907
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,040
dead right here, you know, the,
it's just going to be a lot of

908
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,000
pain and suffering.
And based on what I saw in that

909
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:34,800
trailer, I I just know Duncan
ain't going to be the same for a

910
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,720
little bit.
No, because what was it Maycore

911
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:42,840
says to him.
He said it's time for my

912
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,400
youngest son to be a Squire.
But he says he was Squire for no

913
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,000
one but you.
And Duncan was like, begging

914
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,960
your pardon, but I'm done with
Princess.

915
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,520
He was like.
Look, the four of y'all the no,

916
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,720
I'm sorry, the five of y'all
have been the main of my fucking

917
00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:57,720
existence.
I need y'all to go away.

918
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:01,120
It's been 5 Targaryens that
ruined my whole damn life.

919
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,760
Right, which we know is not.
I mean, we know that's not going

920
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,000
to happen because he ends up,
you know, we know that what

921
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,400
happens with him and Egg for the
most part through Game of

922
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,800
Thrones history.
But yeah, it's next, the next

923
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,680
episode and and this is it for
season 1.

924
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,560
This is the last episode that
coming up.

925
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,880
And then we're going to have to
wait, hopefully not too long.

926
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:33,400
But still, it's like we got to
deal with everybody's guilt.

927
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,680
We're going to have to have a
funeral.

928
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,640
We're going to have to like, you
know, the.

929
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:42,920
More the more I think about like
how they're talking about doing

930
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,160
15 years, the more I kind of
want it because I'm like, now we

931
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,120
got to get out of wacky how he
feels right now to get him to

932
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,880
another space where they're
doing this.

933
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,040
I'm like, I just need to know
how it all happens.

934
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,560
So I'm kind of looking like,
okay, maybe I want maybe I want

935
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,040
these 15 years.
I don't know.

936
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,640
I don't want to know.
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't mind it

937
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,120
as long as it's not dragging
out.

938
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,880
You know what I'm saying, Kick?
Dragging dragging out well.

939
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:18,080
We nail piece of a dragon the
whole damn time, but.

940
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:23,600
We have been with Dragons.
Then you think about you think

941
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,560
about Deron's vision or his
dream that he had.

942
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,200
You know where he tells Dunk,
Yeah, I see you with the dead

943
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,480
dragon.
This dragon had wings large

944
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,840
enough to cover the entire
metal.

945
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,480
I think he was talking about
Bill are.

946
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,640
Yeah, because he said.
It and you didn't.

947
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,640
I don't know if you killed him
or not, right?

948
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,520
There's no yeah.
That he that the dragon is dead

949
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,480
and laying on top of you.
And what happens?

950
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,560
Baylor falls on the ground into
dunks arms and dies.

951
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,880
Yeah, I I was like, I knew it
was coming and it still.

952
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:09,440
Hurt like it still hurt because
man, nobody wants the good guy

953
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,840
who was like honestly a good guy
with no, he literally had no

954
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,400
ulterior motive for anything he
had done.

955
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,520
Even just when Dunk was being
like the little, you know, oh,

956
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,560
help me Sir, to get into the
list.

957
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,080
He treated him like a human
being and he was good to him.

958
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,400
And he remembered somebody who
nobody apparently remembered,

959
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,480
you know, like he was just good
and says, oh, George RR Martin.

960
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:43,640
And really he, even though, yes,
this also, you know, what was

961
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,680
it?
The, the thing the person said

962
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:53,400
right before he said made, made
death something about life and

963
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:59,160
death, but he pretty much saved
Dunk's life by by even

964
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,120
suggesting the trial by combat,
you know, and I think that's

965
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,760
also why Dunk was like, I'm your
man, Sir.

966
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,400
Like you gave me the, you gave
me an opportunity to, to save my

967
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,560
life.
Like I would just be here.

968
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,720
That same feeling is for what he
had for Sir Ireland.

969
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,320
Yeah, you know, he followed him
because that man just busted and

970
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,280
saved his life.
Didn't know him from Adam and

971
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,360
get off that by the mother or.
Whatever, he said.

972
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,320
I was black.
Yeah, yeah.

973
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,560
And, and, and Baylor stood by
him.

974
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,440
Baylor backed him and said that
was an honorable thing to do.

975
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,120
He did, Yeah.
He did.

976
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:42,720
Oh wow.
Was sad.

977
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:48,520
Was a true, true knight, yeah.
And I really believe he meant

978
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,320
it.
But he said the realm needs men

979
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,360
like you.
Yeah.

980
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,160
Absolutely, absolutely.
Because that's the other thing

981
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,600
about Baylor.
He don't say stuff he don't

982
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,840
mean.
So he really, he really felt

983
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:07,520
that, you know.
And unfortunately, any man like

984
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,320
them, they don't make it in this
world for too long.

985
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,320
They they just don't.
You either win or you die.

986
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,400
I mean in real life for sure.
You won, but you still die.

987
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,960
It's crazy.
It's always that thing, you

988
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,520
know, when you watching stuff
and the person always looks fine

989
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,240
and then next thing you know
they fall down and they have a a

990
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,360
stab wound under their stuff and
you're like, or they got shot by

991
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,320
the frayed bullet and you're
like, Oh no.

992
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,840
'Cause you, you walked in there,
you could tell something was off

993
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,880
about him.
But it could have just been, I

994
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,880
mean, they literally would just
knock down, drag out fighting.

995
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,760
So it could have just been the
tiredness, but I think the thing

996
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,440
that I noticed was when Dunk was
on his knee, you know, pledging

997
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,800
himself to Baylor and Baylor
touched his shoulder, he

998
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,600
faltered.
But Dunk faltered at the same

999
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,320
time.
And I think Stevie Pay and Sir

1000
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,040
Raymond, you know, they pulled
Duncan back because Duncan

1001
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,000
obviously was the one who was,
you know, he had been stabbed

1002
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,840
several times and all this other
stuff.

1003
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,720
So they probably just thought it
was him.

1004
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,880
And his imbalance caused the
press to be imbalanced because,

1005
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,560
again, there's Baylor sitting
there.

1006
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,800
He was like, oh, yeah, we.
I'm gonna have my maestro look

1007
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,960
at you after he's done with my
brother.

1008
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,560
So obviously, Makor ain't all,
you know, he he got some bumps

1009
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,120
and bruises, too.
But again, going back to Baylor,

1010
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,920
he could have just been like,
oh, OK, We you got your, you

1011
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,760
know, you got your verdict.
Go on.

1012
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,400
Go on your happy way.
No, I'm gonna have my Mace.

1013
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,160
I'm gonna have the Targaryen's
maestro come and look at you.

1014
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,800
You know, he didn't have to do
that.

1015
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,440
But then when he does kind of
fall off balance and they're

1016
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,200
tending to dunk, you can kind of
see him swing.

1017
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,320
And I was like, this is not
good.

1018
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,880
And literally, that helmet was
holding him together.

1019
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:08,320
Oh.
My gosh.

1020
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,440
So, so I'm, I'm going to, I'm
going to pull it back a little

1021
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:19,720
bit before we all start sobbing.
We we, we also have to remember

1022
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:26,120
that Song of Ice and Fire is a
fantasy and there is a prophecy

1023
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:32,320
and things have to go a certain
way for a certain person to be

1024
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:33,440
born.
Yeah.

1025
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,360
And and you know what's going to
happen with the Dolores King?

1026
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,320
No.
Yeah, no.

1027
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,920
Because then he would have lived
forever and there was no chance

1028
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:48,680
that any spares, even if it is
the 15th spare.

1029
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,520
So a lot of you know the gods
working mysteriously is a lot of

1030
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,920
things in this world have to
happen a certain way for certain

1031
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:02,680
things to bear out.
You know, and we had to have our

1032
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:08,280
Prince that was promised that
didn't come to any anyway, let

1033
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:14,560
me let me not go there.
No, but but but John Snow's

1034
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:19,400
existence did put some things in
in motion, right?

1035
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,160
Because Daenerys wouldn't have
been there with the Dragons and

1036
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,640
you know, and maybe even Aria
wouldn't have been there because

1037
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,840
her, a lot of her being there
being around and doing stuff,

1038
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,960
you know, her closest with John,
you know, they were close from

1039
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,080
you know, So we don't know.
We don't know where it could be.

1040
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:42,400
I know.
Oh my God.

1041
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,600
Yeah, it's still a fantasy, even
though we didn't see any

1042
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:57,920
Dragons, you know, No red
priestesses or red priests, no

1043
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:03,200
reanimated corpses.
It's still a fantasy.

1044
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,240
And it's crazy.
We had eight seasons of three

1045
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,120
and it was just three Dragons.
We didn't even have a ton of

1046
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,040
Dragons in that first iteration,
right?

1047
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,840
Yeah.
And then we got all these

1048
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,240
Dragons, and then we have more
no Dragons.

1049
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,400
Yeah, no Dragons here.
No Dragons at all?

1050
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,920
Yeah.
Valerian is not walking through

1051
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,040
that door.
Nope.

1052
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,400
I ain't gonna lie though, I
really really kind of want like

1053
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,200
more than her target in history,
though, because I love the fact

1054
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,520
that they really wasn't like
kind of a nobody family, noble

1055
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,320
family.
That wasn't really nobody.

1056
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,600
They weren't even strong as far
as like Valyrian dragon Lord,

1057
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,800
they weren't even on top.
And then they just came over

1058
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,840
here and was like fuck your
couch give me this whole

1059
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,080
country.
I'm going to be over these 7

1060
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,400
kingdoms and just like wowed out
for centuries.

1061
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,480
All this destruction and
craziness because of 1 mediocre

1062
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,560
family that was like I'm better
than these bitches.

1063
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:06,880
Yeah, well, again, certain
things had to happen for people

1064
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,960
to be in place.
That doesn't mean we have to

1065
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,560
like it.
That's right.

1066
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:16,200
Doesn't mean we have to like it.
I think that doggers we talked

1067
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:20,160
about the dogging they have
anyway, that's get Segway.

1068
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:27,360
You saw you heard the rumors
about the yeah, they got Did you

1069
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,880
watch the video?
Did you watch?

1070
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,400
The video I did and.
It's funny because he's like,

1071
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,040
yeah, I talked to him backstage.
They say we can talk about.

1072
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,040
He goes, oh, we can talk about
Henry Campbell.

1073
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,680
No, I don't think you're
supposed to talk about that.

1074
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,880
Yeah.
And then he came out on his

1075
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:50,600
social media and said that that
wasn't basically he was like, so

1076
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,000
yeah, everyone's saying that's
what that's what Dexter said.

1077
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,560
That's not actually what Dexter
said, but I'm like.

1078
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,720
No, that's what he said.
That's.

1079
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,160
What he said.
Didn't say Aegon, he just said

1080
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:06,920
Henry Cavill.
Yeah.

1081
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,240
So.
And then he was like that.

1082
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,000
He's not in.
He's not affiliated with

1083
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,440
anything.
Game of Thrones, Yeah, but that?

1084
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,840
Really.
Yeah, he ain't no contract

1085
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,160
signs.
He can see that.

1086
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,920
He can see they can sign no
contract let.

1087
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,080
Him, be him.
Be a Targaryen.

1088
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:31,520
So I've heard rumors that he
would either be in season 2 of

1089
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,080
the Night of the Seven Kingdoms
as Damon if he's.

1090
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,480
Damon Black.
Oh my God.

1091
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,800
So because also the rumor is.
And that's going to be a

1092
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,000
flashback.
Yeah, so I was going to say the

1093
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:47,960
rumor is that he would either
appear in Season 2 of The Night

1094
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:52,840
of the Seven Kingdoms as Damon
Black Fire or the other big

1095
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:57,600
rumor is that whatever they
decide to do regarding Aegon's

1096
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,840
Conquest, where there's ATV show
or a movie, that he would be

1097
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:06,760
Aegon Targaryen.
Now, I know that is a huge fan

1098
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,640
casting, like fans have actually
been saying that they want him

1099
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:15,520
to be Aegon.
So my whole thing is we already

1100
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,880
know he looks good with white
hair.

1101
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,240
I just need y'all to make that
happen.

1102
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:27,080
That's that's all I'm saying.
You know, just yeah.

1103
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:32,400
I still think Pagan's conquest
should be an animated version.

1104
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,760
No, I can't get Henry Campbell
an animated.

1105
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:35,480
I need it real.
Life.

1106
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,480
You can do the voice.
You can do the voice.

1107
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:43,000
I need to see him in some
Targaryen finery.

1108
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:49,440
I need to physically see that.
Because because like, even with

1109
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,160
the tales of Lincoln Egg, you
know that that mention of him

1110
01:07:53,160 --> 01:08:00,680
and his four pages and the White
Book is it makes him almost a

1111
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,080
mythical figure.
Yeah.

1112
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,880
But here you're just stripping
all that mythos away.

1113
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,840
You know he's just some regular
dude from Fleabottom who knows

1114
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,120
how to fight.
He.

1115
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,560
Is now I, I feel like that is
what what happened with Aegon

1116
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,800
right now.
It's it's this myth that

1117
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,279
everyone's trying to live up to
and they look back on.

1118
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:29,399
And when you make it real, then
it it changes it, it changes it

1119
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:32,800
whether it's Henry Cavill or
anybody else, yeah, it's going

1120
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,160
to look cool.
But then you take away from the

1121
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,120
mythos.
We might have.

1122
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:41,560
We might have to agree to
disagree on that one.

1123
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:45,920
I just really want to see Henry
Cavill as a Targaryen.

1124
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,840
So.
Go watch season 1 of the Witcher

1125
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:56,760
and and mute.
That's all you got to do and

1126
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,800
just pretend the Dragons there,
there somewhere.

1127
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:06,000
Just yeah, I, I, I understand
everybody wants to see it.

1128
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,920
It sounds like it'll be a great
thing.

1129
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,279
It'll, it'll probably be
probably be great.

1130
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:19,080
But I just, I just, it takes
away from what we know him as,

1131
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,040
you know what I mean?
Like even when you Start

1132
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,399
learning.
Oh, well, the target games were

1133
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:28,840
a minor house in Valyria.
You know, the Valyrians were

1134
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,319
even more minor than that.
Yeah.

1135
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,960
Yeah, they didn't have any
dragon riders.

1136
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:36,840
They couldn't.
They just didn't.

1137
01:09:38,359 --> 01:09:41,520
And the Targans got licky.
Yeah, they ended up at

1138
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,960
Dragonstone, which was a
Valerian outpost that nobody

1139
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,920
cared about.
Yeah.

1140
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,560
Yeah.
And now that you know all that,

1141
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,040
that takes away from the
Targaryen mythos.

1142
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,320
Yeah, it does.
No, it does.

1143
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,520
It does it.
Does it?

1144
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,080
Does you're going to agree to
disagree?

1145
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,720
I'm right, so you can disagree
with me anyway.

1146
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:09,400
Whatever, whatever.
So yeah, we have one episode

1147
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:16,320
left and then nothing else until
House of the Dragon comes back

1148
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,520
in.
I think they're saying probably

1149
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:24,600
June, but.
Yeah, in June of this year.

1150
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,240
Yes, it's coming out of the.
Dragon.

1151
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,040
Right, Yeah, House of the
Dragon.

1152
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,640
Yeah.
They're saying it's supposed to

1153
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:35,240
come out this summer.
I don't think from, from

1154
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,400
everything I've heard and read,
we're not going to have a long

1155
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,880
hiatus with this particular
show.

1156
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:47,800
So it's possible we may get
Season 2, maybe early next year.

1157
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:52,560
I don't see it dropping in 2026.
So maybe early 2027.

1158
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:57,240
I I hope.
Fingers crossed, because yeah,

1159
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:01,640
Dexter's going to outgrow his
little egg self in a little bit

1160
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,120
so.
We have to move fast.

1161
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,080
Yeah, they do so.
But like you said, like you said

1162
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,040
a few episodes ago, it's good
because they don't have a lot of

1163
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,360
CGI with this one.
No Dragons, there's not any of

1164
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,720
that magical element.
This is like literally a human

1165
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,280
tail in Westeros.
So it shouldn't.

1166
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,760
And they can use a lot of the
same set for for what?

1167
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,520
What they just did.
Yeah, because there there isn't

1168
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,600
much of A set in in the sword
sword.

1169
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,280
OK, yeah.
So you guys have any final

1170
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:42,240
thoughts on episode 5 besides?
I I enjoy being slapped back

1171
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,440
into the reality of the Game of
Thrones.

1172
01:11:44,440 --> 01:11:48,840
World listen.
It was a harsh slap too, like.

1173
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,560
It was a big game slap.
It was the bitch slap of all

1174
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,120
bitch slaps.
Yeah, really.

1175
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:59,160
It was like when when Duncan
kick Aaron across the stage.

1176
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,480
Yes.
Oh.

1177
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,840
OK, and I know I'm gonna be
crying the whole next episode,

1178
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,760
so I just want y'all to know
that now I'm going to be texting

1179
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,640
y'all that I'm crying.
Yeah, I think we all, we, I

1180
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,680
think we're going to need a
support group after this.

1181
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:23,880
So anyway, all right, one more
episode and then we'll be done

1182
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,800
with season 1.
But for now, that is it for our

1183
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,800
show.
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1184
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:33,120
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1185
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,680
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1186
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,920
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1187
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,360
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1188
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,480
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1189
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,440
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1190
01:12:44,440 --> 01:13:18,090
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