Harry Potter - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #129

0:25 What's up hybrids? Welcome back to another episode of The Phantom hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I am here with Anthony and Mike and we are starting 2022 off by talking about one of my favorite things, we're going to talk about Harry Potter. The 20th anniversary special. That came out on New Year's Day. We don't really get a chance to talk about Harry Potter much on this podcast. We haven't since we started because there's not really Anything new, which is weird because, like, especially with Anthony and I, we were both like, major major Harry Potter Geeks. Yeah. But it always comes up as a reference. Yeah, you got tons of rounds every show, right?

1:07 Mark about. And we talked about, I think we talked about, we talked about it a little bit, and I drank on coverage because I did a panel about they, who must not be named talking about problematic authors and separating them from their, you know, from their art, which Obviously we've had to do with Harry Potter, for those of us who are trans supporters. So it's been weird. We talked about it at conjuration because it was a Harry Potter based convention that we did. But other than that we haven't really had a chance to talk about like the movies the books is just hasn't come up. So yeah I'm glad we get a chance to talk about it and why? Look before we start I have to show I have to show you all this.

1:51 So I was in Walmart. I think the Christmas break like maybe a week or two before Christmas walking by and saw go back buggy. And this thing was sitting in top of the buggy and I picked it up and I was like oh this is cool. Let me go see what else they have. They didn't have any more in the store so I ended up getting it. So you see this They're so cute in acute for the people who are listening and not watching. It's a this thing is like an 18 inch Harry Potter, seasonal plush. So he looks like a Funko doll with his big head was she and he's holding a red ornament, so it's really, really cute. And I picked it up and carried this thing around, like a baby, all through Walmart, and couldn't find any others because I was looking up.

2:44 Do they have Ron? Do they have for mine because you know, I'm a Ron fan. So I was like they got to have a run and see any other. So I was like, okay I'll take carry home and hopefully next Christmas, they might have others. So yeah, it's a pretty big hurry. He's very big. So, but laying a little bigger than 18 inches to Little video. Yeah, he might be but then again, you're short. So I mean everything. You know what, you know what we are not about to have this conversation today, but apparently, he's not big enough for Leia because Leia keeps knocking him off of my bookcase every time she walks past and she knocks him off. I'm like really this thing is twice your size, she don't care. But First, well, I should say.

3:38 Initial thoughts. What did you think about the special like, where you where you emotional Anthony? Did you start crying within the first five minutes? Like I did? Or was that just me? That was just you. I mean I'm a real fan. I may have said a tear or two, you know, I tried to hide my face from my personality, with him, a related to our marriage, why she wasn't emotional too, I don't know, because I was not. I'm trying to look here duration to think case. So I'm just going to ignore the I enjoyed it.

4:28 It brought up some memories. He actually brought up some things. I had never thought about before concerning the series and will Al Talk about that later, but initial Impressions was it was it was pretty good. I only had one thing that was the issue. The in talk about John Williams and music, but I know that that wasn't the focus of the show, but I thought the music is as much of a character as the characters, right? Is when I hear the thing, when I hear hat, is it Hagrid song? When I hear that, he was thinking, you can't give it out of your head, you know? That you just can't.

5:08 And I think the music is just as much a part of the show as the characters are. So yeah, that was only thing but other than that I thought it was fabulous. Yeah. I know they have talked about the music and other things before like some of the behind the scenes that you get with some of the DVDs. You know, they released like so many different types of DVDs with special features so they I know they talked about it there. I think this one was supposed to be more so So kind of like a nostalgic journey. I feel like part of it was to kind of deflect from some of the - that we here with not necessarily Harry Potter fandom, but again, you know, mentioning, she who must not be named and it surprised me that they had her had clips of her even here and but they made sure they sit film. So, my best friend and I, we were Watching it at the same time.

6:08 She's in North Carolina. I'm here. So we waited until we were both free so that we can watch it together and like text back and forth. And that was the one thing we both texted to each other. At the same time. We would like they made. Sure everybody knew that she wasn't a part of this, you know, the whole life thing which, you know, it's cool. I mean, I be honest, it's still her creation. You know, we are grateful to her for creating this world that has brought so many people together, but it It was strange, you know, that means it is always it's always going to be kind of strange when like Doug could someone who created or saying or wrote something gets involved in some bullshit and you're and you're like, oh god, what the fuck my old?

6:56 You know, it's just like Fame. All this shit happen with Kevin Spacey and everybody was watching House of Cards was like, fuck. I can't watch House of Cards it for our can watch Usual Suspects. It's just like, I mean to a lesser. JK Rowling is nowhere near as as tough as our Kelly but it's just like, you know, people still listen to our Kelly like we're like still just in Step In The Name of Love and stuff but that's it. We can't. I don't, I can't. Yeah. It's like but it's kind of like you said it's hard for some people to separate the artist from the douchebag or douche baguette. As the case may be is like some people just Really like something that they do.

7:39 They go like oh I can look past all that but you know I mean I'm with you I was like love some sort of certain things. I'm like I'm you know I'm don't you can I think I think part of it is for me my connection to Harry Potter. Yes I love the the series I got really attached to the characters but for me it was more. So the family that I found through Harry Potter like several of my best. Friends, I found because of Harry Potter, a lot of, you know, my fandom experiences. My my first pay blogging gig and all this other stuff I had to do with Harry Potter. So that's why I associate with that more than you know, the other stuff we won't.

8:25 We're not going to get into this. This is going to be a fun discussion. We're not going to talk about she who must not be named, we're going to be Voldemort over there, don't just, you know, focus on this stuff also Call it Voldemort ition. Now we just I'm just going to stick to she who must not be named and be done with it. I was saying how you and I met because of Harry Potter, right? Yeah. Well, we well, we work together first and then we kind of bonded and got got closer or became more friends because of Harry Potter, right? Yeah. So and that's kind of happened with me with a couple of people that I've worked with before, like, one of my best friends.

9:05 She and I Guy worked in the same office and we were cool. And when I first started working at that office, when I went from part-time to full-time and you know, got a cubicle to decorate. I have I have some Harry Potter dolls that are actually in my bedroom right now and I had them sitting on my desk and she walked past my desk and she kind of stopped the she loved and she was like, wait a minute. Are you a Harry Potter fan? I was like, yes, she said that my distance. She was like, girl, let's talk and literally that's how we started our friendship, she and I went to our first Dragon Con together, Because Matthew Lewis who plays Neville and James Oliver Phelps who plays the twins were coming to Dragon Con. So that was my introduction to DragonCon way back in 2007.

9:46 So I have a lot of good memories with the Harry Potter. Yeah, because I remember you were in the media center and a Michelle was like, oh you know, because I knew Mia because I had substitute in her class and she was like oh her mom were some me sooner. She's in the Harry Potter because I I just started reading the books, right? And I was a poet. So I went to the media center. We started talking about here about this. Yeah, because I knew you, but I didn't really know you until we start on my best. Yeah, that was a fun time. I loved working. I worked in Elementary media center and I loved it. That was actually my introduction to Harry Potter because I was in there all the time and the kids would like we couldn't keep the Harry Potter books on our shelves, like we had several copies of each.

10:36 Look, I think at that time, it was up to order of the Phoenix and we couldn't keep him on the shelf. And what happened was, one of the banks in our neighborhood, gave a donation of books to our schools media center. And as I'm going through cataloging the books, there was a box set of the first five books. So my supervisor at the time and also one of my mentors, he had been trying to get me to read Harry Potter forever and I just Wouldn't because at that time, I was just getting out of a church situation that was kind of sort of cult and I've mentioned this before in other podcast whatever.

11:17 But, you know, they were one of those that was kind of on the fence or, you know, telling people that when you read stuff with witchcraft it was anyway, you guys know where I'm going with that. So I just never read the books and being in there. I was like, okay, well I guess I should take them home and Them. So he let me take the books home before we ever put them on the shelf. And I tell everybody people laugh at me when I tell them the story. So I took the books home on a Thursday. It was right before, spring, break and 2005. I remember this because I was like, okay, so I have these three days for this week spring break was the following week, so I was like, okay, I have like 10 days to read these books. I was a pretty fast reader back then. So I was like, okay, I can do this. The books home on Thursday, started with book one. I was finished with all five by Sunday evening, three days, I read all five books and this is with that was 2005 at that time at a three-year-old 27 year old and nine year old sister I was like how in the world did you do this? As a literally I took that book everywhere I sat on the couch and I folded laundry I cooked with it, I was in the bathroom with it.

12:33 I took a bath and I had a sitting on a stack light. I took that back to Those books everywhere and and red. So that was kind of how I got into it and then I joined a message board. I'm dating myself now and join a message board. And one of the, one of the chat rooms for the message board was Harry Potter fans, 30 and over and I was like wait there's more and got into it and it was like at that point I think that chat room had like ten thousand members. I was like wait what? So that was kind of me dipping. My toe into the Harry Potter universe and I still have friends from that initial chat room that I'm friends with. Now that have surpassed, like real life friends, some of these people I've never met in person, some I have. So it holds a very special place for me, in terms of that. And then I was going through a lot, a lot of stuff personally at that time, too.

13:27 So it kind of helped me through some really, really dark personal stuff. And this just kind of, you know, Why it's still cemented in my heart as a fandom? Like I haven't read the books in a long time. I only watch the movie sporadically now, but I still like feel so connected to this fandom and I'm sure you guys have, like, maybe similar experiences. I know, Anthony. And I we belong to an adult's HP group here in Atlanta that we started going to. Like I started going there and like 07 right after Dragon Con. And Anthony started coming a little while after that he and his wife. I think I think Michelle's been to a couple meetings as well, right?

14:09 Yeah, one or two. Yeah. Well that's you and we still have some good friends from a like Dina and Adam and yeah, the nice whole bunch of people. Yeah. A lot of fun people and I didn't think like, for me getting into it. Like I was always a reader and I just kind of like I'm not gonna be here quality because that's that's kids books. Who wants to read The Children books? You know, I don't want to I didn't I was done with the yei was not do. But I picked up Sorcerer's Stone. I was like, oh my God, this is actually pretty good, huh? Yeah, and and sister easy reads you go through them fast. Well, they were easy reason being. Once you get the Prisoner of Azkaban, it's kind of, like, wait, this is, this is taking a turn. But, you know, I went through a pretty fast and are for me, it had stopped reading for the most part up, until then, and You know, I don't know.

15:08 I don't remember I think because We you go to law school, you read a lot, you read a lot and some of you then you don't want to read any more right now is you have to write. So giving back into it, I was like, oh my God, this is real good. So he actually brought me back to a passion that I had before. Yeah, reading fan. It's not fantasy, but it felt like fantasy to me. And it it rekindled that passion. I have freedom because Michelle will tell you I Event. I read all the time. Like, I couldn't stop reading. Yeah, and it brought that back for me and then I didn't have a lot of people hang out with. I didn't really hang out with anyone until the HP. And I started hanging out with you guys. And that was fun.

15:58 Yeah, we haven't seen yet. Yeah. Senior DragonCon. That was fun. Yeah, because I had been going. It was just me and Brandon my best friend. We only it. Was us up until then, that start hanging out with these people. Yeah. He I'm like oh you gonna go hang out with them now? Yeah. Okay out of here he missed out on some good, hey time. So you get into HP basically through the movies. My secret shame is that I've never read a book. Lord we're gonna have to fix that real. We gotta feel bad but I mean to be honest it'll be just like Just like y'all. It's like I've been an Avid Reader like through High School through college.

16:45 Like I anything you put in front of me, I'd read. So it's like when I saw the previews for a movie I was like yeah, my check it out. But then it's like I because I have been hearing about like how books, how books were being, how they're banning the books from schools, because of, because, you know, let's just cross my little stuff. And the one thing about me back in the day is like, if you handed me a list of books, I couldn't read, I'd buy it. Her last one of them ain't gonna read them, right? So it's like, or I try to figure out what it's about. But at this time, it's like, I had. I was like, you know what, I'll take out the movie before I read the books. So, watch Wednesday, the movie, of course, will be blooming fuck away.

17:26 I was like, that's pretty dope. Okay, so then this like I just I pretty much just watch the movies because think of that time, I was more into Murder Mysteries. And I just said, just never really pet chance to pick them up. People have been trying to give them to me. They've been like, hear you The books are so much better. I'm like I know the books always usually better than movie. Yes. I know. See, like here Riri like, okay, okay, okay, okay. And I just never really had a chance to but I've seen them and it's like, I think Harry Potter is the one fandom where it's kind of a good dichotomy of what a fandom is because it's such a diverse fandom. Like, you know, I mean, they're from all walks of life, all ages. I mean, you know, I think even more so than a lot of other fandoms, this one is really more diverse. Than a lot of them like specially Marvel DC, probably like any other like fantasy fandom like they they it is such a diverse and close-knit fandom that you know, I mean it's like you can go to if you go to a con and you see people in their robes, you're going to be like, hey and it's like you'll start talking instantly.

18:31 It's not like people if you see like two people dressed up as superheroes. I probably like oh cool. And keep walking, but it's like most people it, I think I've noticed, like people who like Didn't have never met the person for to life if they're in the same if they're in the same house they'll just is. So yeah StarTalk a girl. Yes absolutely absolutely. And I think that's what's really cool about the Harry Potter. Fandom is like there are no strangers, right? Like there's no strangers in the fandom, right? You see, we Vault where all representing our houses, I've got on my hufflepuffs shirt, Anthony has on a Ravenclaw shirt that his wife made for him and Mike has got on his Ravenclaw head as well. I'm a little bit outnumbered. But that's okay.

19:13 All right, I was when I was reminded that we started listening to the audiobook when Michelle was in graduate school and we were driving to Athens and fluid. Wow, okay, If I'm not mistaken, she was the one that wanted to listen to it. What? Watch it? Yeah, it was her. So also, she was the cool one first and then you you, okay? Okay. And we have that, this is kind of good in that. Then I started diving into the books. Okay, I stand corrected again, that's the lovely thing about having her sitting next to you.

19:57 Why he recorded That's funny. So let's talk about the reunions. Special overall. I enjoyed it. Very nostalgic. I did shed a few tears. Like I mean, even just listening to the music when it first came on, I was just like you, here we go. I was like, here's my tissue. I'm gonna be okay. I'm gonna be okay. I'm going to be strong. I'm gonna be okay. When they showed Hogwarts and started playing, I think it was Harry's wondrous world. At that point, I was like, we even five minutes into this, okay?

20:38 I'm gonna be strong for the rest of the episode. And now there were there were some there was some chick tearjerker moments, but I think my first thoughts when I watched it the first time, I actually watched it, I've watched it three times now, washed it once in New Year's Day, I watched it once the next day, with my older daughter. And then I Watched it just before we started recording because I had some thoughts and I needed to kind of go back and see if what I was remembering was correct. But one of the first things that I noticed that kind of threw me was that did it seem to you? Like for the most part, the trio, filmed everything separately from everybody else.

21:20 Like they may have been there two different times. Yes because, yeah, because it is interesting that the whole thing. Out with em, you know the way that they kind of introduce the reviewing in show, was that you kind of get an overview of London and then you see, like, Emma in a bookstore, you see Robbie in a coffee shop and then you see Matthew Lewis in a taxicab and at the stroke of five, they all get Hogwarts letters you know with with the address of where they are and it's inviting them to this.

22:00 Union Special. So you see Emma coming to the Hogwarts Express. You see her greeting, who was it? Evanna Lynch and Bonnie, right. Luna, and Jenny on the train, you get to see like different people coming into the Hogwarts Express. You get to see Mark Williams, and James, Oliver Phelps, you know, Weasley's boarding the train. You see Gary Oldman and Helena Bonham, Carter, and different things. So it's like you get to These people arrive and then you see Emma arrived at Hogwarts and this is where they're having like a Christmas ball kind of your ball type thing. So you see her go to greet different people like she sees Tom felt and she gives him a hug, you see? Alfred Alfred Enoch.

22:46 I'm gonna always call him out feed, but he's a grown man now. So, I have to remember our friend, I've noticed that when he starred on how to get away with murder, I'm like he's not Alfred, he's out feed em and he's gonna always be outfit and then I have to remember that they're actually not that far behind us in age like only 10 years. So I'm like, okay, but anyway, so you get to see him and, you know, you get to see all the different people like kind of Milling together and talking with each other. And then, as I was watching, I noticed that was like, wait a minute. I said that means Emma was the only person who interacted with the rest of the younger cast because you never see, Daniel or Rupert.

23:30 With any of the others. And that was that was strange for me. It was kind of sad too because I was like it, we know that those main three are the stars of the of the films. But you know, the friendships with within the films with the characters were very important and it just kind of felt a little off to me to not see them interact. But then I thought about it, I was like okay it does seem a little bit more formal with the three of them. Them as opposed to with the others. And it just, I don't know. It felt weird, like I loved seeing the three of them together, but something about that Vibe and then the vibe with the rest of the people in the rest of the cast.

24:13 It was just, it just seems so different. It's Rupert interact with anyone else. Was he not with all the Weasleys when they were together? It's not think so. Yeah, I wonder if scheduling has a lot to do with it. That's what I started wandering to and then it seemed like Daniel had a lot more because he talked to Gary Oldman, he also was with hvc. Hmm it was was a lot of the older Casper humans interact with anybody else. Younger cast know. So you know that's why I started wondering because I was like, it feels like a reunions. But at the same time it kind of feels Like I said, that whole part of it feels weird, like, okay, me. I'm the people in my, in my friend group know me as the hugger.

25:03 I'm the one who? When I see you, if it's been a long time, I have the joyous reaction. I give the Bear Hugs. Like that's how I am when I haven't seen somebody that I care about for a long time and you saw that with Emma and Tom, even though, you know, we'll talk about their part of the She later on but you see it with Emma and Tom. You saw it with the way. Daniel HBC greeted each other. But I kind of wanted to see that with the three of them and it's like instead when they're first introduced, they're all sitting in chairs like way apart from each other. There's almost no intimacy within the three of them. Yeah, you know, a is a I would have wanted to have seen more like when I saw Tom Felton talking to Alfred and Matthew, I want to see more of that like I wanted more of those people in the twins and everyone else interacting. I know that the big three are the big three and everyone wants to hear them talk and see what's going on. But I'm the good one of the better appeals to the show or to the to the story, especially the movies are the background characters.

26:17 Like I didn't know until last night but I had a crush on you. Evanna Lynch. Uh-huh, I did not know the insolence in your watch like yeah I actually love Luna. Lovegood is he's like one of my favorite characters me. Ivana I'm like, wow, she's actually pretty awesome. And if you follow them all on like social media, especially like one of the things that Emma mentioned, she, she said that, you know, for Katie and Ivana and Bonnie she said, one of the things that she loves about them is that they've all become like really great. This and she's so proud of them. Okay. I have a disclaimer.

26:58 Is now? Not then. I mean, he is like a child. So I just want to want to understand that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to be clear for some people. Maybe not. So, yeah. I literally, I literally assumed you meant. You men in the show. I okay. Emails back? Yeah, yeah, you didn't mean it in the in the creepy Uncle type away. No got it. But um, yeah. So it was I love seeing the three of them together. I'm not saying that it just in a way, it felt it, felt formal, if that's the right word.

27:46 I'm looking for, except for a like, Emma. I think you could tell she. And I think Think, you know, as they've gotten older, I won't say that they necessarily tried to distance themselves from Harry Potter but you know, they've all done other things and it's like okay yeah, Harry Potter is where I started but I've done other things too. I want to be known for that too so I can kind of understand that but it's almost like Emma Once they started doing this and we realized how much she missed it because she was so enthusiastic the way she talked she was very emotional and then you could kind of you And seed, bank will any time? Daniel does an interview, he's kind of animated and he's very funny. Even when he's not trying to be, he's just kind of there. Rupert was just sit back to like, yep. Yep, but he was up, he was a lot more. It was a lot more vocal in the parts where they had him just to himself.

28:44 But it's like why he was there. He was just letting Danny Emma talk and you could just see his face lighting up, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think, I feel like Rupert was probably, like, okay, what is the baby doing? What is she doing? You know, because I think, I think out of all of them those that were there. I believe he's the only one with the kid as far as the, the younger cast. I think he's the only one with the kid. Some of the other ones have kids that weren't there last night, but I just felt like, I was kind of sort of looking at Harry Ron and Hermione. Like Ron is in the background, soaking it up and then once you get him to himself, he Start talking, but it was just, it was weird, but it was fun because you could kind of see, like, Shadows of Harry Ron and Hermione while they were having their conversation. Yeah.

29:35 But like I said, I also could giving the impression that that they weren't I only use were honest, but I can tell there are a lot of things left unsaid. Now, wonder if Rupert was one of those people, like I got a whole lot of stuff I could say. So I'm just going to keep my mouth shut and just stick to the script. You did. I kind of? Yeah. I can't. I kind of, I kind of got that feeling. Okay. I kind of got the feeling that there was a certain point. Is I thought was just, like, are We Done Yet? I can I go like, I mean, other than the We're like you said, wait, Phil Malone. He was talking a lot, but, but like, when they were like talking about certain things, he was like, yeah, right. Yeah, I remember that, right?

30:20 Yeah, right now it's like honest really. He just kind of acting. I'll be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if he forgot some of the stuff that they were talking about. I mean, I'll just be honest because some people don't remember that kind of detail like the whole thing where Emily was talking about her pet hamster. And then was like oh yeah, but that was funny because Rupert when it came to that River was like, yeah, you remember. He was like the crew made a coffin for it and everything it was and I was like, wait, what? And dang was like, hold up, I definitely wasn't paying attention to all of that. So I think it was like, different things that they remember.

31:00 But like, some of the behind the scenes things he probably didn't remember because if you look at interviews that he did back then, and even the way he talks now about the way he was back, then he was pretty much It's channeling. Ron and Ron is one of those characters where some of the times, he's not gonna pay attention to that stuff and I just felt like he probably he was probably quiet. Not because there were things. He didn't want to say, but he was probably like, did that happen? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. The funniest, the funny thing was when they were talking about having the right there is seized for the characters, I've heard that story so many times.

31:42 And I laugh every single time I hear it every single time I hear, I'm going to tell you what the funniest part of the reunions was for me Daniel and HBC running around, Gringotts acting like children. Yeah, that was the best part to me. Now the best part was when she read my God. Later. My God Jesus, I am and snow Shooters. Shook are putting in her teeth. And then he's like Daniels like is she has assured me that these teeth have not been clean.

32:32 Since she took them out of her mouth at the end of film is. So yeah, that is such a to be seeping to devalue. It is about her, okay? And it's SSL to her for a look at Mike's uh backwards. Like dude she look good. Well actually they all look good even Even, even Mark Williams, with the, with the salt and pepper hair. The salt hair looks good, they all look really good. Yeah, well, I was also going to her. I was like, damn, I guess Tim Burton did HP know what? It's like, yeah, her and was like, yeah. And, and my personal hero, Matthew Lewis, the king of the glow up, like still look good. You know?

33:14 And and I have to say I'm saying he is an Undisputed King of the glow up, like five movie, go up there. There's no just no, come to me. Well here's the here's the funny thing though. So you have to realize that in the last few films, they actually put fake teeth and a fat suit on him. Because you know as as you you know as you go through puberty sometimes you're you know you don't look or sound or you know things change about you and they wanted to keep that I guess consistent with the character. But I will also say to I've met him several times at DragonCon, he is one of the nicest, absolute nicest people.

33:56 There are I've told this story several times but one of the times I was at Dragon Con My kids were too little to go at the time and so I went to go see him to, you know, meet him get his autograph or whatever and he actually got on the phone with my kids and talk to them for a few minutes so that you know that was like one of the best dragon kind of celebrity experiences I've had. So he's really cool. You are good at getting celebrities to talk to your kids something Because Jim and I like we used to interact on on Twitter all the time and I actually had met him at another convention, several years back and I was just shocked at the fact that he remembered me and he, you know, my daughter was with me. He was like you have another daughter and you have a son to I was like yes Sons to too young to come daughter was too tired after yesterday so he got on the phone and fuss they her. So yeah.

34:58 But um yeah getting back to HP. Yeah. Matt Matthew is one of Like the nicest guys, like always smiling, you know, very friendly to his fans, he came to the Yule Ball. The first that, no, it wasn't that first year. I think it was the second time he came to DragonCon, he actually came to the Yule Ball. Spoke to people is looking for a replacement for Daniel. Craig, as James Bond. It's just called Matthew Lewis. You know what, how will not be mad at that? I would not be mad at that, at all. That would ya? I would, I would sign that petition. Yes, let's get mad because I think he could do it, do it, he can do it.

35:40 Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Where's happier in the universe? This and Isaac's look look pretty good too. Yeah. Can't can we talk about how they are at the age? They were in the nineteen years later. Aren't they close to the age? Yes. And that in fact, I think that I think either Daniel or mention that they said something about About. Yeah, we look better than we did in the epilogue and that's even in the second Apple all because if you ever saw pictures from the first epilogue light before they went in and did reshoots, they look so old and I was like and I think it made me mad because for Deathly Hallows, I was actually the age that they were supposed to be in the epilogue and I was like, Island, nothing nowhere near that bad so they need to fix this and then they did reshoots And it looked a little bit better but I still felt like y'all still look a little bit old but, you know, Ruben did say that he I guess they changed his hairline and they put them in a little fat suit. So that's, I guess kind of realistic. They didn't look as bad in the epilogue as people make them out to be.

36:53 I just don't feel like they, they look that because I have no, I have seen. I have seen some people who are they That age, they were supposed to be 36 in Jenny. I think was probably supposed to be like now Jenny. I will say they did age her a little bit too much because Jenny is a few years younger than them, and they did make her look like they have the darks. You know, their eyes were little darkened, so they did make her look a little bit older. But I have seen some people at that age. 36 who look like they might be 20 years older so they didn't look that bad. I think they could have looked better but you know, I don't know, because I'm gonna be honest, we're African-American black. Don't crack.

37:40 Like some of us will be 70, still looking younger than us now. So, you know, I just, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't think it was as bad as people, like, I know people who absolutely hated it. And I mean, even to this day, they still talk about it. Like, I'm like it wasn't. It wasn't that bad. Yeah, they looked a little older. But who knows, I mean think about it. They were stressed out as kids that had to have caught up the hats of catfish caught up with them. It was almost like, literally murdered twice. Like no Baltimore came after this dude. Every single year for seven years he was a father could divert twice.

38:28 Yes, yes. That will age a person. Oh yeah. They were all right. They were all right but um I'm trying to think Joy I enjoyed seeing them all together. Like I see especially the background people. Yeah I wish we could have seen more of them though. Yeah like I wouldn't have been mad at that done. Maybe another 30 minutes and we could have actually gotten a little bit more of the background characters or like talked a little bit more to the Weasleys or even like Tom and Alfred Matthew. Get all of them together. You know that I think that would have been cool. What is this fun?

39:10 Even Bonnie. Yeah. Um but yeah you know not not I think about it. I think some of that had to have been filmed like they could have all been filmed together because I can't see. I can't see where Jason Isaacs and Tom Felton would not have done a segment together because they talk a lot off-screen like even now they've gotten together, you know, since then like when they when they talk to each other on social media, they are still dad and son. So like they really have a close relationship. That was funny when Tom, he was like, how are you like really really nice of any be like the worst person in the world. I mean, to be really nice in here. Where he hit him with a cane and actually bid him, he's like, I was like, oh my God, are you okay? I'm so sorry.

39:59 So, let me tell you that came those teeth real deal because we had a group of friends that hung out, like, very regularly, like, 2008 to 2010. And one of them is a huge Lucius, Malfoy fan. So what we did for her birthday, one year instead of us all getting her individual gifts, We all pitched in and bought her the Lucius. Malfoy he came that comes with the wand. And let me tell you those teeth, so they really are sharp. They really do hurt. So, yeah, I can imagine just having those teeth put in that poor little baby's hand, but then when he said that Tom said, no, it'll be good for the scene.

40:49 Like what basis at 11 years old. Like rip know the funny part was when he was talking about the auditions and he said that they had the boom mic and he said just a little girl says well what is that? And he was like I think I even said a boomer a boom I'd uh and then you said that, you know, you know, I'm sitting here saying all of this but I had never really been on set before he said, and I remember that because that little girl was Emma. I started hollering. I said oh so you were Draco and Hermione right from the start. Like she's trying to get more knowledge. Like what is this weird thing and he's like uh does a microphone.

41:31 Oh, that was fun. Speaking of those two. I know that they say there is nothing romantic between them, I need them to. They they're just there a couple of my mind now. Just whatever. A couple of more months especially after after saying all this after saying all that she was like I had such a crush on him and then out of that like ad. Yeah and she said that's my story and I'm sticking to it. She was like that's all I can say about that. Yeah well that's all I'm going to say about that. Yeah so I mean but I mean like I said I found a follow everyone on social media and I know that like Tom has shared post like pre-pandemic. One of them will come out to see the And date, like, hang out, or whatever.

42:18 And it'd be like, really fun, really, really, friendship type things, you know. I'm not saying that they're not. I believe they are real close friends. But if y'all got that much affection for each other, and there's been issues, like, neither one of them far as I know, is in a relationship right now. I just need y'all to go on hand, just do it. Just just, just go for it. I just I feel like a mother, like, pushing pushing these two together like they just, yeah, they were cute talking about him. You know, who's a good boy that Tom Felton should talk. They just they just seem so cute and they have genuine affection for each other. I just I loved it though. I mean, but even even if they're not, you know, in a relationship or whatever, whatever. I just, I really liked seeing that even after all of these years, those to it.

43:09 If nobody else those two seem like they are still very close friends and they have genuine affection for each other and I like seeing that because all of them were together for so long, like, Gary Oldman said it feels like, you know, he said it really did feel like a family because you don't really have any other films where I can't think of any other films that went eight series. You know what I'm saying? That's a long time to be on set, with the same people now with the same cast, no, that was right. Right. And I mean, I think they even said they have the same crew so you know, I think that's you know it that's just something I like here. And I like seeing the way they got together, serious telling HBC he was like, you killed me and she was like, yeah, I'm sorry, but it had to be done was like, no, it didn't, it did not it absolutely do not have to be done.

44:02 Like I held let me tell you reading the books and then watching the films I held onto the Ability, the series was still alive. I was like, he's just beyond the veil, didn't tell, how many boards and poetry and fiction about him coming back for the veil, all the different theories. Which I don't have a theory. All the different theories. I'm sorry. Wait, I'm sorry, what was that about him? He didn't really die. He should know, he was Advocate David, he was dead, he feels that. See that's the thing, that's the thing because in the books, she never Set a spell, she didn't like, when she hit him, she use nonverbal magic. And of course we could go into differences between book and films.

44:46 And in the film's, they used a lot of nonverbal magic, which in the books he couldn't do unless you were of a certain level of wizard. But but, you know, for films, I think it now that I'm older and thinking about the film's, it probably worked out better that way. Because especially, like, during the battle scenes, I really don't want to hear you yelling out every single spell. Every time you're doing it, that's just tedious. We've had that conversation about that. We have we have but it was still one of those even though she said, The curse, I was still holding on to the fact that he could come back, but I think what happened was, I think Order of the Phoenix, the movie came out.

45:33 I'm trying to think right before Deathly Hallows and I think when I saw the movie that's kind of what convinced me in my mind that even in the later books he would not come back because like I said, reading it in the books You kind of think that there's a chance for him to come back just failed through the veil like and I think even I think even the color of the spill that hit him was different. So you think, okay, there's a chance there's just, you know, Luna says, she hears other voices, Harry can hear other voices. So maybe there's a chance when I saw in order of the Phoenix.

46:16 And she did the spell and he went through. I cried so much because I was like, oh, that means he can't come back in the books because they would never have killed him in the movies. If they knew, he was still going to be alive in the books. I lost it. Then I was like, really then actually reminds me of something else there. I'd like to win speaking of book and movies how because I had heard the story before her Alan Rickman knew what was going to happen his character. Yeah, and I remember reading that in response to that was hilarious because he was like, of course he did.

46:58 Of course he had an answer Alan Rickman who else? But yes, I remember we were you see why did you do that? I'll tell you later. But I remember when I first read that in an interview either I read it or not, I think I saw it. I saw him talking about it and he was talking about how he went to dinner with she, who must not be named and they were talking about it and he asked her, you know, he was like, is there anything that you can tell me that? What like influence my performance? Is there something that I need to know? And then she told him and I was like, so he sat on this for the whole ten years.

47:46 And never told a soul. By, that's the person you want to keep your secrets. That is the person you want, keeping your secret. Imagine how many acting choices? He made just based on having that inside, knowledge. How many times he told the director? No, no. I'm gonna do it this way. Here's why trust me, you know? Yeah. Yeah, right. That was interesting, you know? And and like I said watching Gary. Old man's reaction. When Dan told him that he was just so tickled. And then he was like, of course, it's Alan. Who wouldn't tell him like Alan Rickman probably could have gotten the secrets to all of his roles without even asking. And and would have just carried on like he didn't know a damn thing and they bring them something else I want to talk about.

48:47 I didn't realize it at the time and I didn't realize them to watching this special like how many brilliant British actors were in the series like the cream of the crop. The best of the best were in this children story, write it like Chris Columbus said it was so it was so funny because the kids you know when they were doing Philosopher's Stone, he said they really had no idea of the magnitude of British acting royalty that they were working with. And then when Dan started talking about the whole Gary Oldman thing at Emma was like yeah, you were like you got to be cool. It's Gary Oldman.

49:30 I was like I can actually see Daniel saying that because even watching if you ever watched any of the interviews and behind-the-scenes stuff, when he talks about Gary Oldman even back, then as a fourteen-year-old, he talked about him with such reverence. And respect and love, you know, and I just remember reading stuff about how close they did get on say almost was like the uncle nephew or, you know, mentor-mentee relationship and so that was nice to see because you can still see a little bit of that there. And then to hear the other people like David Heyman.

50:12 And Chris Columbus, talk about the relationship and Alfonso Quran. Listening to them, talk about the A ship a, how it, you know, how it kind of formed. Those two characters was really good because I will tell you this, as far as the character of Sirius Black, when I read him in the books and he and he went through the veil, I actually did not have much of a reaction because the way that she wrote that relationship, It was It was supposed to be Godfather godson but you kind of got the feeling that in the books.

50:56 He was only looking at Harry as like well not only looking at but he was mainly looking at Harry as a replacement for James you know. And if you think about it, the amount of time that serious spent in jail in Azkaban, like think about it. He was around 21 when he got locked up. So Sulli as far as seeing Harry and seeing this, you know, this spitting image of his best friend who he lost at such a young age and Harry at that time, was between 14 and 17. When he started getting to know him, I could see him, you know, kind of Putting Harry in that spot to replace his best friend. But in the books, I didn't really feel connected to him because I felt like, oh, you know, he just looks at him as a replacement to James.

51:48 He's not looking at him as an actual separate person. I feel like we got to see that fleshed out a little bit more in the movies and that's what made me love that relationship because yes, there was that one moment in order of the Phoenix where they were fighting and he says, nice one James but that's the only Time you ever really see him make that connection, or make that mistake, the rest of the time. When you see them in the films, they really are like Godfather and godson and that's what endeared me to that relationship in the films. Which is why it hurts so fucking much when he went through the veil, because I felt it then.

52:28 And then in that movie Order of the Phoenix, when he went through the Veil, And Lupin was holding Harry and he did that screen and there was nothing coming out. That was one of the most gut-wrenching scenes for the film series for me ever. I think the only one that tops it is. Amos Diggory yelling after Cedric gets killed. Oh my God. That when they showed that seen a storm like I was, I still I recalled the shock of when when he got hit with the evident that I was like, It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And like like I still felt that feeling like that was just that was just like you said just gut-wrenching especially here in Cologne every single time it's movie and I hear him scream.

53:25 That's my boy like the Waterworks are coming, I don't care. I can watch that movie. Three times back to back to back, I'm going to cry at this. I've seen every single time every single time, it's just one of those gut wrenching all yeah, it was bad. And and the crazy thing is Goblet of Fire was the first Harry Potter movie. I saw in the movie theater because like I said, I got it to the Series in 2005, that was the year. Half-Blood Prince came out, the book and Order of the Phoenix, I mean, a goblet of fire came out the movie. So that was the first Harry Potter movie. I went to go See, I went to go see it by myself first because I wanted to make sure it was appropriate for the kids. Then I took the kids to see it when no actually, no. That one was, I went all three of us, went to go see it when I tell you, when Cedric hit the ground, Dude, we were all like, huh.

54:30 It was bad. It was bad. And they played that one little snippet during this reunions and I was like, I'm not going to I'm not going anywhere with my tissue, can't help it. Um, since we're on this topic, emotional like when it first played The Deathly Hallows when Harry had the resurrection Stone. And he saw all the people, you know, the people that he lost his parents. Hmm. Serious. We not Remus. Yep. Uranus and I was, this was the first time, like I got really emotional and it's doing it little clip and then Michelle played the end of the movie right after that because she wanted to watch again.

55:27 And when that seek him, I'm like, I don't know. It made me think of a panel we had and I was like, am I about to like start crying now? Yeah. Yeah, that's our thing about, you know, wanting to be with the people that you lost, how powerful that moment was, like, you played so much better on the in the movie than it is in the book that. Yeah, it's just, I don't know. I got emotional during that part like, both times like when they talked about it, And I don't know whose it was a lot. Closer hits it. It's different when you're a father now cuz like I mean it's like when you have older kids that like you can put in that position it's just like oh yeah I'd be the same way. Yeah.

56:12 Yeah but I think I agree with you Anthony. As far as you know, those moments are emotional in the books but there are some things like granted reading the books. You're going to get a lot more detail. You're going to get a lot more Exposition and there are things in the books that they left out of the films that I feel like we're huge mistakes. But there are some things that when you experience it in a visual form it has a whole different meaning and it hits you differently than you just reading it like yeah your imagination is one thing and it's great but actually seeing it on there.

56:57 It like okay Snape's death on screen that hit so much harder for me than in the books. Not it was bad in the books, it was bad. I remember crying and I'm not a snake fan. I'm not a snake sympathizer, none of that. But watching that scene in the movies and like literally filling every single day. Oh my God. That's that's something you just can't that there's no comparison. And on the flip side, David eyes, he hits the same in the book and he's the same in the movie.

57:38 If like, You just feel it. But you always tell the story about how users through the book across the room was that, I remember seeing it because I really in the bookstore, I think. And I just remember sitting there like, really Really. And then happens when you let me see it's the same and that's all seems like it's the same for me. Hmm. And I'm not here every time. Yeah. Okay. SOL SOL we did who hasn't read the book? It does it hit different because it was because they ended the first part of definitely does that set in a Deathly Hallow, the first Deathly Hallows, right?

58:21 Does it hit different because of how they like cut it off right there? Does it hit does it hit harder than just like Reading it, then knowing you have another chapter to get to and keep reading it or did it like this because of the finality of it being the last scene of the first part of Deathly Hallows. It's a visible. I think it's just the visual because like I said, reading it in the book. It was emotional enough because you're thinking this is David David can't die, you know what I'm saying? Just like, no, David can't die, you're not supposed to die and then thinking about the way it, it, it hit on screen. First of all, Harry Potter.

59:07 Told you not to come save him anymore. He told you not to try to save his life. He told you his way back in Chamber of Secrets. But daddy still did it anyway the way. And then also visually the way that it happened, you know, the way that they kind of show them a berating and the slow motion with the knife going through and it just you know the way that they play like you can kind of sort of see who's I don't even know what to call it when they operating but you can kind of see who's there and who's not and for that knife to hit at precisely that moment and it just kind of disappears and it was just like you knew what was coming?

59:53 But the way they played it out, was so much harder because you you, you arrive on the beach. You've got her mind and who's just been torture? You got Ron, trying to come for her. Harry goes over to them, and he's confident them. And then they look and they're like, yo look at Diamond when you hear that Bobby speaking that little voice it was just kind of like I can't watch this. It's almost like watching a child by because Dhabi had that innocence. He had that he had Immaturity a little bit and he was just so joyful. And just all he wanted to do is help Harry Potter Harry Potter, shrink Spirit. Yeah.

1:00:34 It and it was very childlike so watching David. I was like watching a child is kind. It just hits you a lot different and you know, like I said reading those things. Yeah, you can, you can feel it. But when you actually see it, it was just It was just it was bad. And then when Luna came over and closed his eyes, I was done, I was done. I was like nope, I can't do this. It was just it's too much, it's too much so. But um, and I think to, for me, it hit hard as well because of the there were certain things that they changed in that mouth for a manner seen that.

1:01:20 They changed it to the point where I felt like it took some of the urgency out of the scene especially in terms of Ron and Hermione because in the books when Hermione is being tortured, Ron is not sitting in that dungeon just being like, yo, we got to help her Ron is screaming his head off. He is banging the doors. He is trying to get to Hermione and in the book like if you ever doubt it, It how Ron felt about Hermione, you knew in that moment where her mind was being tortured, that beyond anything else, Ron loved her because Ron was ready to commit murder, trying to get out of that dungeon to get to her and I felt like they didn't really portray that properly in the film. So given that that scene took place right before Dhabi arrived.

1:02:15 I wasn't expecting the da, be seen to be done. That perfectly, you know, it's kind of like oh you kind of lacked here. So you're probably not going to do this right now. Uh they were like, oh yeah, you didn't feel the emotion in this saying okay bam, we going to give it to you all in this one thing in this little three minute scene. So yeah, it's it hit different, hit a lot different. But let's see. What else about this reunions? Oh, I will never get tired of seeing Daniel screen test and that screen test of the three of them. Is so freaking cute.

1:03:02 It's like, you know, you get to see screen test. Every once in a while people release stuff, they look so cute and they were so little and it was just like, oh, look at the babies. He was so cute, but it's like in that one screen test, where you have the trio, you are not watching. Daniel. Emma and Rupert audition you are watching. Harry Ron and Hermione. In that in that little screen test, like, they were so cute and they had their part, they have their parts down pat. Like, if they would have cast, anybody else I would have been like what are y'all doing? Even though? You know, we know that there were other people up for the role but yeah, they that's one thing I will say. As far as the film's they did get a lot of the casting, right? I can't think of I can't really think of anybody right now that I would say, okay, yeah, I could have done a little bit better casting, I would say, maybe for James and Lily Potter. The times we've seen them as adults. I think they probably could have cast people that looked a little younger, or made them look a little bit different. But we also have to remember this was like late 70s, early 80s, so they look a little different. Well, you know, we always try to say that people in The Wizarding World AIDS.

1:04:24 A little bit faster. They live longer in age faster that's because they don't have to deal with the election electricity or whatever. I don't know, I think I remember is not my theory. But yeah, they age age faster but live longer with the thing, right? But yeah, I think explain why the whole door had such a turnaround for a Fantastic Beasts. You know, you know that do with Grindelwald is some additional things to him will see that I think will the will see some of that in Fantastic Beasts 3. But yeah, I think you know, when you think about all the things Dumbledore went through, you know he has this maybe or maybe not unrequited, love for Grenda wall. Grenda wall is basically trying to try to recruit him to Help quote-unquote change the world, you know, they get into this duel, they get into this fight.

1:05:31 I think during the midst of all this stuff Dumbledore accidentally or, you know, they ain't never seen through the spell right kills, right? Yeah. Yes. But, but his sister dies in the midst of all this, you know, and then you have to chase this dude down and then your your Headmaster and you have the Coming of evil as one of your students. Yeah. Don't don't went through a life. He should have aged a little based But that'll be interesting to see how they do that in a Fantastic Beasts. Is it, is there a reason they give a reason? Why is it Michael Gambon? Why he didn't show?

1:06:15 No, they didn't. But I'm I'm going to be honest. Michael Gambon. Michael Gambon was one of those people who I feel like, really It was a really enamored with being in the Harry Potter series, you know, maybe that changed over the years, but I know when he first got into it, he was one of those people went, when he talked about, it was kind of like, oh, this is just another job, you know, they really didn't really care too much for, like, the fan side of it and all this other stuff. And then also age might have been a factor, you know, we do. You have to thank, you know, thinking about the whole thing. I said at the beginning with some of them you know it looking like some of them film differently you know we are still in the pandemic.

1:07:12 We do have this new Omicron variant that's kind of bringing the covid-19 as backup. So maybe they just kept like a lot because if you think about it he wasn't there. Maggie Smith, wasn't there. Who else? Why did her name? Just escaped me? Here's Brandon, wouldn't there? This is Weasley. Lord. Why did her name? Just ask 800 only come out but I know she's recovering from cancer cancer. Yeah, so, and I, yeah, so so it could have been that. The people who may have been more at risk, they probably were like, okay, no.

1:07:54 And then they probably also decided, no, I'm not going to make this trip. I'm not going to do this because of that. You know, it could have been a lot of different things. I mean, we're living in very strange times, you know? And just me thinking about the whole, Daniel, Emma and Rupert thing where they were kind of, like I said, they seem like kind of separated from themselves or, you know, from each other. I mean, like I said, we got think about Rupert has a baby at home now. So, maybe he didn't want to be around a whole bunch of people, you know, just in case. So it could have been a lot of things. But again, there were certain things that That just kind of threw me like we got, we got a little bit of, you know, we got a one-on-one discussion between Emma and Rupert, which was really sweet, but we didn't get Rupert and Dan. And that was just kind of weird to me again. So I don't know.

1:08:48 It's just like I said, I felt very nostalgic but there were some things that I wish we could have seen a little bit more of in terms of the interaction with, with people. But you know, I didn't hate it. I loved it. I really loved it. It has made me. Do you remember? I'm not going back to read the books. We didn't do that for me but but really one, watch the movies again. Yeah. That too. But his pain, the thing is, I've already read the books twice. Mmm, and S is no, well, whatever you have with Prince, maybe three or four times but average. Maybe twice.

1:09:31 Freeze one. Okay, I think I've ripped I've read through I've read through the entire seven book series. Maybe four or five times and I know like the earlier books, I've read more because like I said, when I first got into the books it was right before Half-Blood Prince came out. So I read all the books that that first weekend and then I read them again, right before Half-Blood Prince came out. And then I went through the series again right before Deathly Hallows came out and then I went through the series a few more times and but it In like a good.

1:10:17 It's probably been a good 10 years since I picked up the books and everything. Is it reminded me of the magic of the series like looks in the movies. Yeah, my daughter is 13. And I think, even last review before she started reading books, okay? And she watches the movies. Like we get up in the morning and she's waiting to go to school. She's down here watching one of them. Okay, she won't say it out loud but I know she really likes it. Like she likes being a Hufflepuff. She thought about maybe becoming reason class. He's like, no, yeah, I hope option is reading the books.

1:11:02 She was reading the books and she watches the movies, like all the time. The kids are watching movies. You go into her room and the movies playing one of them. So, yeah. I used to do that a lot but it's been, it's been a since I've actually watched the movies and I think part of that is like, In the same way, that the, the movies remind me of Good Times, They also make me sad sometimes because like, my little Core group, that we used to always watch the movies together, like we're all spread across the country now, so we don't get to what like it used to be nothing to say yo let's do a pot of marathon and everybody show up at my house and we will have our like junk food, and our popcorn and our drinks and sit there and watch it.

1:11:47 And now it's like two of us are here in Georgia, but we're like on opposite sides of the Area one is in North Carolina. One is in Rhode Island. One of we don't even speak to any more house repaired. Yes it's you. She was asking questions. Yeah. So it's just one of those things where I haven't washed. I haven't sat down and really washed it and years. Like if it comes on, I might watch it in the background every once in a while. But I haven't like, done a marathon in years because of that. Because I'm like my my Marathon buddies aren't here, so it's kind of sad in that sense. But I think I'm going to, I think I'm gonna go ahead and my best friend said that she's going to start rereading the book.

1:12:33 So I think I'm going to do that too. And then I probably watched sit down and watch the movies, but it's also one of those things. I know if I start watching the movies, I'm just going to get sucked in and then I'm going to be doing Harry Potter. Nothing else, but Harry Potter for like weeks on end and we have other stuff that we have to talk about never this good. We got other books to read. We gotta understand Tariq and I know I know but I think in the same way to like you know we've talked about it when discussing other shows that are page to screen versions. It's been years since I've been able to like really sit down and start a book series and keep it going because I get so distracted or, you know, my concentration is just not what it was when it comes to reading. Maybe if I go back and start the Harry Potter series again, it'll reignite my love for reading just like it did all those years ago.

1:13:29 You know. The kind of give me that nuts to say. Okay you know what, there are other book series that are great because like literally you know I had always been a reader but it was just kind of one of those. I'll read here, I read their I never read a series and gotten into a series the way that I did Harry Potter except for maybe in Elementary middle school starting with like Sweet Valley, you know. So I got into the Harry Potter series and then of course, after that, what comes after Harry Potter, Twilight at that time, and then the Hunger Games and then the Divergent series, and I think for me, the beautiful creature series, The Mortal Instruments. Oh, Harry Potter.

1:14:14 Really started kind of getting me back into why a and going through these series. And it's like now I'm just kind of like I don't know, there's just hasn't really been anything that just kind of sucked me in that way. Shadow and bone came close, but it's nothing like it was with those other Series. So I don't know, I'm still waiting to see. So maybe I read a little bit of Harry Potter and that'll kind of jumpstart me back so you can do it with me. Anthony, I know we've got no Shadow. What I know you've got Shadow and Bone Rita, we've got a discovery of witches and and who knows what But with the Outlander and Outlander.

1:14:57 Yes it but, you know, Mike has to read the book so maybe we can read along with him do like a book club. Hey, that would that would be fun. Oh, it's gonna be fun actually. Yeah, that will be fun, just kind of rediscovering Potter because I know there's a lot of things you know. Also when I started reading those books it was like in my 30s, my early third. Matter of fact no I started reading Harry Potter. ER, at 30, so that that's been 16 years now. So, maybe going back, reading it now. Just kind of as I've gotten wiser, you know, more, you know, more educated about things in the world, just going back and reading it. I know that they're probably I've, you know, I know people have talked about going back to reread it and they notice this a little more problematic than when they first read it. And I'm kind of preparing myself for that as Well, but I think overall the original feeling I got from the series and again, from the people that I've met bonded with become family with, I think that that will kind of again, always keep HP like close to my heart.

1:16:09 So, you know, I'm interested in that and I like having something that I can relate to my kid with now, she's into Harry Potter. I think that's cool, right? But yeah, might we got to get you. You into these books. I know I know I know but just like you said we got we got so many other books that can cure right now. I know, I know but here's the thing so I hear I don't know how true this is. I have heard that they are trying to develop a Harry Potter TV series. So it'll be look, don't don't look like that. I've actually been wanting a TV series for a while because I feel like if they follow some of these The formulas that they do with TV series. Now if they do even an eighth episode, you know, season 10 episode season, if you think about and of course, my key won't know this because you haven't read them yet. But if you think about a lot of the Back stories that they omitted from the film's because there just wasn't enough time. Yeah.

1:17:13 They could make it and they could make it really great. Now, will they get the kind of casting that they had for the film's? I don't know if they'll ever be that cast know. Are they because those characters, we like, is that the plan, like probably so, okay. Well, I would be interested in the much better version of Half-Blood, Prince. That's what we got on screen that yeah, well, that, and if you think about it, like the major things that they miss for Prisoner of Azkaban, the whole back story on the Marauders, I know, plenty of people who want to see that for, I think God bless her. Fire. They were pretty true to the book. There wasn't not.

1:17:59 I can't think of anything like, major major that they missed out from the book. Not that not that I can think of Order of the Phoenix. Had some problems. I really hate that. They kind of condensed, the conversation between Dumbledore and Harry after serious died. Like in the office. Like, there's a whole chapter of Action that they omitted from that film, that I think would have made a lot more sense. They took that out. I would love to see that Half-Blood Prince. So problematic, you know, there were some good things about Half-Blood Prince, the humor and Half-Blood Prince was amazing. Okay. The humor with it was amazing, everyone. We're seems like she thinks you the you she thinks you're the chosen one.

1:18:46 Yes, that. And that's the one where Ronald and lavender were in the relationship. That's the We're on. Got poisoned. He got slipped the love potion and he was looking at the moon. So all that stuff is great. Stuff is great. In the book in the movie, should not have been called the Half-Blood Prince, this would be constant. I know, because you literally skipped the whole backstory behind have a foreign plot like, Yeah, well, yeah, Empire is gone. So yeah, there's some things that I would like to see done a little bit better and I feel like a TV show would get wet. Give them a chance to do that. Like, give me seven seasons of eight, you know, a episode Seasons. That's that's plenty enough time for them to get everything in and do it, right.

1:19:36 Like I said, I don't know what they'll do about casting because like I said, you had pretty much damn near perfect casting for those films and as far as like like you said the creme de La Creme of British acting royalty, you will not get that in another film. Yuri's ever, ever, you know, especially we have most of those people are gone. Now is, you know, a good portion of them are gone. Alan Rickman is gone. Richard, Griffiths is gone. John has no John Hurt. Robert Hardy. So there's a lot of them, that's gone. So You're not going to get that, but we still have some talent in this world, even with that older generation.

1:20:18 So I would love to see it. Do you think they're going to make Hermione if they recast it make a combined me closer to God. She wasn't about, probably not, I don't know, they probably could because if you think about it hurt it hurt description in the book like she could go either way. I mean, when I read her, Ima Be honest, I didn't picture her as a black girl, you know, I don't necessarily read somebody with olive skin and think a black person, I always think a white person because of, you know, that's what I grew up with, as far as descriptions of people with that kind of complexion, it will be great to see them cast her as you know, a black girl or a person of color.

1:21:04 That would be cool. I don't know if I see it happening. But maybe I mean it's possible like look what they did with the will of time. I mean they true they colored just about every character. They did. Yeah. Yeah. That's not how they are in the book. So right right. If that's a possibility, I don't see them doing it, but this possibility. Yeah. So we can hope, we can hope any final thoughts on the reunions, special or Harry Potter. General. It was fun to revisit once again, revisit the magic of the series and the cast, and to see them as regular people and seeing them growing up and go back over those memories, which brings up the memories that I have of reading.

1:21:58 The series watching the movies, as I thought was pretty cool. Yeah. I remember you saying, you wanted to do it and talk about it? I was like, I'm not gonna watch that. Well, I'm home. Right. Right, the watch the All-Star listening to me because when I said, I said, I said somebody's going to have to watch this and and talk about it with me. He was like, are you really going to make me watch this? I was like are you a true Harry Potter fan if you don't watch it. I oh yes you are. No! Don't despair as those people. Okay, happy nice. I want I want to be one of those snobs to be like, oh my God, you know, that she Harry Potter fan, but I really do feel like for die-hard fans, like you have to watch this series.

1:22:48 It's just even with all the complaints that we have, had over the years about the film's those films still like one, you have to separate them from the books that you just you have to, but if you think about it and just watching and Say it does have a lot to do with the movie going experience, and how you experience it with friends. Like I remember doing screen screen on the green and Atlantic Station with my friends watching it, people getting mad at us because we're literally sitting there, reciting every life is like, we got all peoples nerves doing that, but it was just so natural because that's what we would do. We watch it at home or whatever and it just became habit, you know, seeing Order of the Phoenix in a I don't know if you remember this.

1:23:41 When did they used to call it? Black curtain screening or something and you would go see the film like a week before it came out and just remembering watching Order of the Phoenix and when Harry tells Umbridge I'm sorry Professor but I must not tell lies the whole movie theater. Jumped up shouted. Screamed. That was the first time I had ever been in a movie theater with that kind of reaction. And it's like, Nowadays, you kind of get it with all the Marvel films and stuff but that was the first time I had ever been in a movie theater with that kind of relax. And I was like, oh I life is like, I'm watching with real fans. This is what a real Fan Experience is like like you just, you know, going to midnight movie premieres, they don't do those anymore but they did them for Harry Potter and we used to go dressed up in costume or, you know, have our, you know, I house representation. You know, I miss those times.

1:24:37 I really do and watching this reunions kind of brought a lot of that bad. So I'm glad I would love to see them. Do a more inclusive reunions, maybe I don't know, maybe they'll do one for the first film, really, or no film releases already gone. So maybe they'll do something else where we can get a little bit more because there were a lot of people were missing from this, you know, a lot of the younger actors. I said the older actors they probably would like okay, yes too risky but I would like to see them do something like this again, you know, it's kind of like if you think about the way Rupert said, Rupert said, it doesn't really feel like we've earned a reunions yet because it's only been 20 years.

1:25:21 But at the same time it's been 20 years so I don't know. I enjoyed it though. And seem like it, I know. But I mean Time Flies. What was it room for say? He was like time. I think Emma said it feels like time has flown and then no time has gone by it. All we're Rupert was like I've had kidney stones and baby so yeah, I feel it, I feel the age so I don't know. My kids were in elementary school when I started reading this series and now they're all grown. So that's a marker of time if anything, you know but it's cool. I enjoyed it. So Yeah, we're going to have to do this again because I could talk about Harry Potter all day long like yeah.

1:26:08 So I have find some, might you gonna have to start reading these books? Give us a reason to talk about Harry Potter, I realize this. Yeah. So I guess that's our trip down Harry Potter memory lane for now. So that's it for our show. You can find us online at www.haddadhyundai.com, we are on social media. On Facebook, Instagram and Twitter at Phantom hybrid. You can also find us on YouTube and all major podcast streaming platforms. Thanks for listening, we hope you join the conversation next time.