The Last of Us S1E4 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #213

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Was the Pirates, welcome back to
another episode of The Phantom

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hybrid podcast.
This is hanako and I am here

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with Anthony Michelle, Mike and
Laurie and we are discussing

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episode 4 of The Last of Us and
no II.

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You put your hand down.
We are not starting with you

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yet.
I already know where we're going

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and I already got something to
say about you.

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You gonna put your hand down
because Maury tried to start the

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podcast off and we hadn't even
hit.

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Bored yet so Lori, you were not
with us last week for episode 3.

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So go ahead real quickly and
give us your thoughts about

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that.
Before we get into episode 4, I

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never knew I wanted a bonus /,
sidequest episode as bad as this

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episode.
Oh my freaking God, I cried.

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It was the most beautiful
heartbreaking gut-wrenching.

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Awesome episode.
I've ever seen in my life except

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for Stargate, Atlantis episode.
16.

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Season 3 when dr.
Carson Beckett dice.

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That's all I'm gonna say.
It was the best thing I've seen

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in years.
It was, it was Sublime.

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It was perfect.
I thought that in order for

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World building, it gave us the
background that we needed for

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other than Joel and Ellie and
what was happening with the

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infected.
But at the same time, it kind of

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brings to what would be if If it
was us, if we were stuck in our

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homes or apartments, and we had
a loved one, and we just sort

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of, you know, you know, kept my,
husband's a prepper.

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So I've got stuff like five
years, so it's like, we never

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leave our apartment and we go
outside, come back in, you know,

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maybe check on the car and, you
know, we're together and we grow

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old and one of us get sick and
we have to take care of each

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other.
We realize that this is the end

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and we're going to prep for I
Lord.

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Help me Jesus.
I swear to God it was some of

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the best television.
I've seen in my entire life,

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that's my take.
Okay, all right.

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And before we get to Mike, I
want to do, I'm just gonna do

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something a little bit different
because we have started getting

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some interactions on our YouTube
page.

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You know, we started posting our
videos maybe about half a year

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ago and it's slowly kind of
building up and we have some

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comments on our YouTube page.
So I just want to go ahead And

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read those so response to our
video covering episode 1, we

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have Shari Perez who posted, she
said, love this, yes.

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Listen to the animals, dogs,
cats and birds, be knowing.

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When it's time to go, I played
the game and most of it is true

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to the game.
Hard choices must be made in the

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game to, like walking dead don't
get attached to anyone.

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Loving the show catching up on
your episodes and then we have

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no lead Nelly who just says
another great reviews.

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So we just want to say thank you
guys for listening and for

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providing feedback that lets us
know that we are doing something

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right.
And then I believe I also was

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told that by David Cameo over on
the squawking dead podcast that

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they actually mentioned us in
their review of episode 2

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because they listen to our show
and they listen to what Lori was

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saying about the whole gluten
thing and the bread thing and

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David was like wait That's
actually amazing.

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It's so excited.
Squawking, damn, for shouting us

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out.
We love you guys and check them

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out when you get done checking
us out and listen to that show.

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They have a really funny show
and they have really good

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people.
So anyway, all right, let's get

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to this thing because the first
thing I'm going to say before.

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Anything else we talk about this
episode.

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When I say, I watch this episode
and I was like, oh my God, Mike

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and Ellie Arthur Kindred Spirits
with the Fucking bad jokes.

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Oh, nope.
I watch this episode.

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I had to call Maury.
I was like, I don't know, Maury,

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I think she might be my
daughter.

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Somehow I'd say they think we
like, she is me.

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I am her.
I'm like, what the hell?

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Like this is like, I'm like,
okay, she's sarcastic, she loves

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dad jokes.
She does, she does stuff she's

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not supposed to do.
I'm like, that's not.

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Like, that's me.
That's like a female version of

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me to say that first joke.
And when it came out I said, oh

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my God.
Mike is on the show.

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Yeah exactly.
It doesn't matter how much you

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push the envelope.
It'll still be stationary.

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That's my I love.
That was like that.

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I love that joke.
very cursed joke, she told I was

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like, oh my God, Mike is
probably sitting there watching

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this like We're going about like
I'm surprised, you know, but the

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last one, where is where she
said?

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She said, what she said.
That diarrhea is hereditary,

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isn't?
It's in the genes.

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I was like, like, yes, I'm like,
it's like that first.

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I was kind of like, okay, she's
sarcastic, just cool.

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That was like, wait, she's
literally is like a little

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female version of me.
This is weird.

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Especially at this episode when
she was like, she had those, she

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got the magazine and she was
like, oh, She was like why the

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pages stuck together?
I was like, oh my God.

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I was like nah.
With the magazine at first, I

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thought she picked up like, hmm.
I thought it was a little bit

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more risqué and then I looked I
was like, okay, can't be that

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bad because he's actually
clothes on the cover.

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And then when she starts like,
oh, like, what are they doing?

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Oh yeah.
I was just fucking, which I was

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like this little girl.
I don't care how old she says.

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She is this, this is an old soul
in a young body.

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Like she has wait for someone
who has never experienced the

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world.
She has way too much of it up

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here, how to, you know, how to
make the jokes, how to how to

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fuck with them.
Because I mean she was doing

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that with with him and test just
kind of like fucking with them.

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And I'm just like she just um
this little this little girl has

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been here before she has been
out more than she is told them

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she has but she has a little bit
too much world and knowledge and

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just watching her in this
episode I was just like This kid

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like I can see how she's going
to become important to Joel you

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know and you even start to see
that towards the end of the

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episode when they have the
shootout, the way he's looking

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at her.
When he's telling her you're

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going to go in that hole and
you're going to do this and

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you're going to be safe and
they're not going to shoot you

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like I think that's when it
started to shift from cargo to.

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Oh my God.
This is a little kid that I need

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to take care of.
And I think her telling those

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jokes throughout the whole So
you know, throughout the whole

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episode, I feel like maybe Sarah
was that kind because we got to

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see a little bit of Sarah's
humor in the first episode.

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Not as much as this, but we did
see that she was also a kid who

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likes to joke around with her
dad and I feel like Ellie

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starting to break those walls
down with Joel.

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And it was because she was
telling all of these fucking dad

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jokes.
I also think it was time to, I

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think he's never really spent.
Hasn't spent time with kids or

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children until now and he may he
may have forgotten what it was

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like because he a kind of closed
himself off and now he's got her

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and you know he's they've been
together what?

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34 days.
Maybe a week two weeks but it's

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been 24 hours a day non-stop.
Hold on for a second.

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Somebody's echoing.
I was on the road.

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You could have at least tried to
butter me up first, First, I'm

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sorry, I'm sorry.
Let me leave the jokes to me and

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Ellie.
Okay calm down with that.

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Now we have to buy that book.
If you Google Ellie's areas dad

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jokes, you can find the list of
all the jokes from the game.

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No, dude.
What is it just seemed like

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that?
Why would you do that?

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I'm already looking up on my
phone.

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So, work to my head, I have
myself to blame Anyway, oh my

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God.
So you said but as I was saying,

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yeah he he just he's been
spending time with her.

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So however long they been
together.

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However, long, he's been those
walls like you said, they have

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no choice but to come down.
Yeah.

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Also that magazine scene is on
taking directly like literally

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directly from the Game.
Like this is the they put up

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side by side with her holding a
magazine is like the same scene

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directly in this in the game.
Okay.

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Do they have that same magazine
like the men of those different

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magazine but it was like the
same content, you know?

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Yeah.
Okay but anyway so the episode

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starts out with Ellie.
You you remember in the last

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episode when she was at billion
francs, she happened to get her

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hands on a gun and Joe does not
know that.

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She has his gun.
So we see her at the beginning

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of the episode and she's in a
bathroom.

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A very like, I understand you
don't have a lot of choices, but

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you would not catch me in some
of these bathrooms that they

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have.
Anyway, she's in there.

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She's looking in the mirror and
she's like, pretending like

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she's shooting.
Now while she's there, she

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looks.
She takes the mag out of the gun

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and she takes the other bullet
out.

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I was like, this ain't her first
time handling a gun.

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Yeah.
She's had training.

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Like she has.
Like she yeah, like properly

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handling that gun.
I was like, oh shit.

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She okay.
Yeah.

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And I know she I know she goes
the federal school but we

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haven't really like we know it's
a military school because it's

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run by Federer the military.
But we never been told yet.

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Exactly what they're training
them or you know what their

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schooling down.
And like we know that she knows

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some basic things.
We know that there are other

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things, she doesn't know.
And when, you know, Joe pressed

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her about it, she was like, it's
a shootie school.

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So I was like, okay, I'm get,
I'm guessing they are training

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these children to be soldiers
from a young age because again,

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at least 14, So yeah, you have
the Child Soldier aspect to

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that, which I'm like, yeah, I
don't really like that.

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But then, again, they live in a
world of infected people that

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can kill you.
So, I guess there really isn't a

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choice about that.
But, you know, I just think that

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kind of lends itself to us,
seeing, from the very beginning

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of the episode that, as much as
Ellie has a child, and we see

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her Access to certain things in
a childlike way.

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She's almost an adult in other
ways, too, which is sad because

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again, this is all she's ever
known, you know.

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So anyway, then she said, you
know, they go out, they're

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actually getting gas.
And, you know, when I thought

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about it, when I looked at it, I
was like, okay.

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So this is what we were talking
about last week and then I was

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like, no, he siphoning gas out
of the cars.

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So I don't know if It's just
that they didn't make it to one

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of their little stashes.
Or if it's just as Joel said,

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you know, he was talking to
Ellie about the gas because she

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was asking she was like, so how
often are we going to have to do

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this?
And he was like, well, you know,

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gas when it sits for so long it
starts breaking down.

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This gas is almost like water.
Now, you know, and he had the

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conversation, he was like, yeah,
20 years ago, we could have gone

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like A Long Way to the 12 hours
with this anyway, here's my

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problem though.
I'm like I need a scientist to

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really tell me how long gas
lasts because depending on shows

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is either two years.
This is 20 years.

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I'm having a hard time believing
it.

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There was even water in the
tank.

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Well yeah.
Cuz you would, you would think

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that if it was water would have
evaporated by now?

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So I'm like, well, it depends
upon the mineral content.

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It depends upon whether or not
you've got a high or a little

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evaporation rate from the
container and also depends on

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the grade of gas.
That is there an average gas

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station with gas should be able
to sustain ably hold gas,

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continually renewing for up to
four to six months?

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If it's been sitting in
stagnant, going to get

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separation after about four to
five years.

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So typically gasps that's a is
in a container, in your garage

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that gas is good for two to
three years.

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If it's in a gas station sitting
in the tank, it's good for

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another five to seven.
So What about your 15?

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Your gas is going to start
breaking down and buy your 17 18

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19, you're going to get the
water but you can still, if you

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can spin it, evaporate it out,
bring it down.

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You should be able to pump it
get areata and you should be

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able to get some gas.
But yeah, what they're saying is

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actually true.
Oh thank you, sorry working

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engineering and I kind of hear
this all the talking but what

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gas station should be getting
gas from?

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That's nothing.
On the left, you know, the one

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in those sticks, but basically,
no, they the one thing that I

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noticed about the show is that
the science quote.

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Technology is pretty much the
way that it should.

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It kind of should track.
Unlike a lot of shows is very

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realistic so but yeah, no, the
gas is about work, should be

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because it will break down after
about 20 years.

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Okay.
Okay, so road trip.

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You're on the road trip, you
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L he's talking about the things
that she wants to see because I

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think Joe mentioned something
about a tank in the way she got

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killed like she was like how I
see a tank.

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He was like, don't see that and
more you'll see Choppers and

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other vehicles.
And let me tell you, it was so

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depressing watching them, go
through the countryside and

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seeing the abandoned roller
coaster and seeing all of the

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military vehicles just out.
In the field just kind of

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willy-nilly with other cars.
I was like, yeah, there was a

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fight there or something there,
but just watching that scene, be

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signed for loves the gas
station.

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And the Arby's, Arby's must be
sponsoring the show because

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they've mentioned them twice.
This twice, two references to

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our two episodes in a row, but
you know, I'm sitting here

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looking at the sound like, oh,
that's like when I take my road

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trips to New York away.
Whatever.

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It's just I don't know seeing it
kind of wasted in that way was

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sad and I was like you can see
Ellie is This is something that

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she, you know, she's never been
out in the world.

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So these are things that she's
saying for the first time and

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then the way that she's
experiencing them, it's like

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nothing.
Like they used to be the Stars,

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the fact that she could see the
star so clearly, because there

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was no pollution in the air, I
was like, okay, I would like to

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experience that but not at the
cost of the whole world turning

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into clickers and infected know
that that will not be good.

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But their road trip.
So, of course they are, they

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pull over into the woods in the
middle of the trip, so that Joe

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can get some rest.
Because, of course, he's the

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only one driving and it was just
interesting because again, you

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get to see her be a little bit
like a kid.

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And you also see like a little
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I guess and Joe both kind of let
their guards down with each

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other.
You know, she's again she's

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telling the joke like she
started out.

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She was like, Joe can I ask you
a serious question?

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He's like, yeah.
Now this is a change already

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because remember, right before
Tess died, he was like, look,

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you don't need to ask me any
questions in that after she

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died.
He was like we don't need to

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know each other's histories, you
do you I'ma Do Me.

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So the fact that he even let her
ask a question, I was like,

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Okay, he's starting to lower
down the wall and then she tells

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another damn bad joke.
I was like, hmm, but he's gonna

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not like her, but when he turns
over, you see, a smidgen of a

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smile on his face, I was like,
okay, she's starting to break

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him down.
She's starting to make him.

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Remember what?
It was like to have a child at

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that age because remember Sarah
was what 15 when she died.

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So, you know, listening to her
kind of Talk about how safe they

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are.
You know, are we, are we going

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to be okay, nobody's going to
come here, right?

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And at first she was like, No,
in fact that he was like, no the

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effect is it?
We're too far out, but that's

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not who we need to worry about.
She was like, people.

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He was like, yeah, she said what
they want to what did she say?

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I think she said what they want
to kill us.

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And he was like they want to do
worse and again for her not to

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be raised in the regular world
when he said that, she knew

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exactly what he meant because
she was just Like, oh, and she

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got a little serious and little
quiet after that, but I don't

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know.
I'm starting to like, well, I

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wanted to say, I'm starting to,
like, I, like the way that they

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have been taking their time
building this relationship

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between them to because I think
if they would have felt if they

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would have forced it or made it
move a little bit faster.

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Well, I think that would have
for me, felt disrespectful to

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the relationship that he had
with his daughter, but to after

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20 years, I don't think he would
be that open to welcoming in

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another youngster that quickly.
And it was just, I don't think

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it would have felt genuine to
me.

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So I kind of like the way that
this is taking its time to build

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the trust between these two
characters.

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And so, you know, kind of find a
bridge for them to become what

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I'm going to assume is a great
Duo.

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Again, I do not play the game so
I don't know exactly how their

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relationship is in the game like
whether or not they do become as

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close as father and daughter or
you know if it still remains

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kind of an arm's length thing.
But Yeah, he starts giving her a

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little bit of information.
You know, she asked him about

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Tommy, he starts telling her
yes.

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So this is what happened.
We get a little bit of

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background on, Tommy story being
that, you know, when he was

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younger in high school, he
decided to go off and join the,

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you know, military because he
wanted to be one of those

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Heroes.
He wanted to be a person that's

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saving the world and he said for
a first, he said, he was just

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winner.
Yes, he's a joiner.

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Yes.
Joiner. so I guess that little,

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we see how Marlene got them
because He's one of those people

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that's like, okay look I got to
make a difference.

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I got to go save the world, I
got to do something, I got to be

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a hero, you know.
And Apparently something changed

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and I think Joe said he left
Tommy left, and now he's got to

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go find him, he's got to go bail
his little brother out.

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I was like, okay, so this has
been their thing.

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And of course, we already know
that they're kind of strange

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right now.
So I don't even know like I

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know, Tommy went to join the
fireflies and I know that

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probably pissed jollof, but for
them to not be speaking, which

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is kind of what the gist of.
You know, the clues that he's

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given is like, they're
estranged.

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I'm like what?
What happened?

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That's my mama, in my mind.
I feel like Tommy probably

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wanted to go save some people or
say whatever they were trying to

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say and Joe's like nope.
Nope, nope.

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Nope.
Because every time it's time to

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help somebody.
What does he say?

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No, we're good reason though.
A true true, but that's probably

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would be the thing that likes.
But them apart, if Tom is always

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trying to be a hero, he joins
different groups and trying to

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save the world and your brother
is like hail naw.

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Hmm, yeah, yeah I want to say
something before we go on I just

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think that Elias just like just
breaking down his defenses.

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He's he has that wall up and her
jokes.

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Keep chiseling down that wall.
Her just being so good.

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Dad jokes, do they break
tension?

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They ease the ease your mind.
And they open you up to new

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things and to being a better
person.

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I would actually that far.
No, I completely accurate.

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Thank you very much.
Okay, Lori break the tie break,

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the tie on to that jokes.
I think that dad jokes are

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completely appropriate and they
need more of them in this world.

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See, sorry, you're wrong.
That's just the end of it.

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Sorry, I guess what else you
need me on this one ravioli?

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We have a pretty old kid in my
cupboard to bake it.

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I'm just saying like those types
of things, whenever you see food

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pantries, they always bring that
kind of stuff.

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So yes, I feel like Chef
Boyardee would be good and if

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you cook them over a fire in the
forest, they might be like a

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gourmet meal.
I would say Ellie was inhaling

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that stuff too.
Like she was eating the Olive

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Garden.
She was just like, aw, yeah.

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Was he even piece of steak.
You can pick someone.

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I could think of, I can't think
of a better Italian restaurant

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welcome.
But look, I can't talk because

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right now, as we speak, I've got
a story is Anya in the oven

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right now, okay?
So let you know, Stover's is

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that joint though.
Exactly.

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Dover's is outstanding, exactly.
No, my thing is, is that, you

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know, given the situation and
given what's happening with

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everything, you know, the jokes
and the, you know, the the

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lasagna and all that stuff.
It's very refreshing.

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Because, usually when we have
These type of stories, it's very

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strumming drum, it's very, you
know, depressing or we're going

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to die.
You know, I pull out my example

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of the 100.
The hundred was an excellent

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show, but it was so depressing.
Nobody had time for jokes,

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nobody had time for fun.
If anyone even thought that they

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were going to smile the rest of
the group got on their ass.

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So seeing this is refreshing and
I love it.

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Yeah.
And like I said, you can never

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go wrong with a dad joke.
Okay.

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You just remembered it.
Theme from The 100 didn't you?

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I just remembered a lot of
things from the 100.

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Like she's not really wrong but
I mean, if you hate me for the

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basis of your life was living on
an arc in space and you got sent

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to, you got sent to Earth a
possibly irradiated Earth as

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punishment.
I wouldn't have reason to smile

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either, but that's a whole other
story.

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We are not going to get a sister
100.

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This is true Anthony.
Was I the only person who looked

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at them approaching this bridge
and I was like, oh, here we go.

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Stand.
Yeah.

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No.
Through the bridge and there's

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gonna be in fact, I like I had,
I had a little bit of the stand

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and a little bit of The Walking
Dead when Glenn was trying to

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reunite with Maggie.
I was like, they're going to

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have to go through this tunnel
and they're going to find

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infected.
Luckily joke was like,

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absolutely no, fuck not, we're
gonna drive around and we'll

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just have to.
I mean they How many people

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there to siphon more gas from
more broken down gas from?

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But yeah, Yeah, when you looked
into the truck and saw that it

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was clear.
I think he realized.

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Yeah, someone did this.
We're not going to go through

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the air.
We might even try this.

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We just go around.
Yeah, because I, yes soon as I

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saw it, I was like, oh, hell.
I was like, I was actually

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expecting to see someone like
someone walking as a trap.

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Like oh, help me.
I'm all alone.

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I was expecting that at the
Bridge but instead they do drive

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around and they are going
through what looks like the

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downtown area.
And you know, there's an

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Alleyway where you see a lot of
bodies that have been burned and

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the smoke is there still smoke?
So this was recent, I was like,

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okay, so they've done this
recently but then they pull up

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to the checkpoint for there in
Kansas City.

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That's that's how far they've
made it.

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They Pull up to the checkpoint
for the Kansas City quarantine

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Zone and it's not there.
The gates are gone, the doors

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are gone.
This place is clearly been

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overrun or overtaken and it's at
this moment here comes the

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person in the street.
Oh help me help me.

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I was like huh and Joe
absolutely not right, hit him.

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Looking at and you know, like
Alias like are we going to help

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him do like no I was like that's
something that I have to get

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used to because so many in so
many shows.

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So many movies you always do
have the person who like they

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might think about it or they say
okay you know what I don't want

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to lose my humanity and blah
blah blah they might help Joel

445
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:38,700
is like fuck that shit no this
like Alicia's Mother In Fear The

446
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:41,100
Walking Dead.
She's like, oh yeah, we go.

447
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:44,700
Help my you like no, no no we're
no.

448
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:48,100
No.
Well, they can't be bad, you

449
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:50,800
know, we had to help him about.
No, you don't have to help

450
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,900
everyone out.
Yeah you there and Joe I mean

451
00:28:56,100 --> 00:29:00,400
from job Tom is trying to pull
over you know there's a there's

452
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,200
a couple.
They got a kid, we got a kid to.

453
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,300
We gotta keep is not playing
with y'all.

454
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:13,600
Joe is not playing with y'all.
He comes across as like a very

455
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,300
practical matter of fact kind of
person.

456
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:23,500
If you didn't seem to trust
other people even from the

457
00:29:23,508 --> 00:29:25,100
beginning.
Yeah.

458
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:30,000
Yeah.
And so things like he's very to

459
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,100
himself and I don't know if
that's if that's just something

460
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:39,700
that he's precautious about or
if it's something that maybe is

461
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:42,100
a trauma response.
Because I mean if you think

462
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:44,800
about it, we don't know anything
about Sarah's mother.

463
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:48,300
We don't know where she is,
where she was.

464
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:52,400
We don't know, you know, if she
died how she died, you know, she

465
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,600
could have died from natural
causes.

466
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,200
She could have died from illness
or she.

467
00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:59,400
Anna died from a violent event.
We just know that she wasn't in

468
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,300
the picture at the time that all
this went down so that could be

469
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:04,600
a response to that.
Yeah.

470
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,300
Okay, so this is what helping
people can get you you know,

471
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:13,100
that maybe they stopped to help
someone it turned by, we don't

472
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,300
know.
And I don't know if they explain

473
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:17,700
that in the game or not, but I
haven't heard anything.

474
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,900
So it's just one of those things
where I feel like his precaution

475
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,500
has only deepened in Twenty
years since that first night,

476
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:33,000
because on that first night, you
know, hey, we had, we had to

477
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,500
kind of run over some folks or
run through some folks, to try

478
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:40,200
to get to safety.
And it's a good thing we did,

479
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,400
because if you remember that
scene in the town, when everyone

480
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,100
was coming out of the movie
theater, Everything was moving

481
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:52,600
so fast, you would not have been
able to tell who was infected

482
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,600
and who wasn't you just saw
people fighting.

483
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,300
You saw people grabbing other
people and like I said you don't

484
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:01,500
know if they're grabbing you
know if they're grabbing their

485
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:05,300
friend to say come on let's go
or if they're grabbing their

486
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:08,600
friend to infect them.
It was there was too much going

487
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,800
on and these damn infected and
these clickers.

488
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,400
They run.
So you don't have time to think

489
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,900
you don't have.
Have time to make

490
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:21,900
second-guesses.
So I guess Joel is like okay you

491
00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:27,200
know what, if they're not with
me and mine, welcome, we got to

492
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,700
gummy survival of the fittest.
You can't, you can't you can't

493
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:33,900
be out here doing no doing
charity work, because you'll end

494
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:35,700
up getting up, getting eat up
and up.

495
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,000
And we see his instincts are
right, because when he drives

496
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,400
past the guy as the as he's
driving, Ellie starts noticing,

497
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,500
hey, there's people on the roof.
Not with guns.

498
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,000
And then you get the spikes in
the road and they crash into an

499
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,200
old and they do it.
They do a cinder block through

500
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,100
his windshield.
I was like, damn, they people.

501
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:01,900
They ain't fucking around here,
like, give me all your shit that

502
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,500
they didn't get away.
But, you know, I think if this

503
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:08,400
point to, they didn't really
know who Joe was, you know, cuz

504
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,300
we find out later on an episode,
they're looking for someone.

505
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:13,400
And at this point, we don't know
what that person looks like.

506
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,800
So it could be, it could be that
they think that it's somebody.

507
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:19,700
Buddy with these people.
We don't even know who these

508
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:23,100
people are at this point.
So they could be the good good

509
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,800
guys.
They could be got bad, guys.

510
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,200
We just, we just don't know.
Yeah.

511
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,300
But one thing that bothers me
about all of this is, like, you

512
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:35,500
didn't even.
I know we were talking about not

513
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:39,100
helping people but you can even
be like, hey, you know, who are

514
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,100
you, where do you doing what's
going on?

515
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:44,200
You know, there was no attempt
at communication, we just going

516
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,300
to take your shit.
See what if you got?

517
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:50,500
Kill you and move on.
You know, I don't know if this

518
00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:56,100
is this seems pretty pretty,
bleak way to have an existence,

519
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,300
you know, and it's Michelle's
been watching fear, the fear the

520
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:03,500
walking day and, you know,
people keep trying to build

521
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:06,000
communities.
I'm trying to help people and

522
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,700
this is like the complete
opposite.

523
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:11,900
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And these from what we can tell,

524
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:15,800
I mean, so far from what we can
tell from what we can tell like

525
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,100
people are bad.
People are worse than the Faked

526
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:19,700
it.
Yeah, but I mean, this is

527
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:22,600
something Joe has also been
saying since the first episode.

528
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,900
So and this is something that
that we know, I mean, you have

529
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,100
you have people like the battery
guy in the first episode, he

530
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:35,300
supposed to be on Joel and Tessa
side and what does he do?

531
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,000
He stills from them.
He still is the one thing that

532
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,000
he knows they're looking for and
tries to sell it off to Marlene,

533
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:50,100
you know?
Yeah, it's just People are not.

534
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,000
In a regular World in a world
like ours, where we have access

535
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,100
to resources, where there are
other people where there are

536
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:03,400
rules in place that supposed to
separate the bad from the good

537
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,600
in a world like this, a lot of
people aren't their best.

538
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:11,800
You know what I'm saying?
So you put them in a world

539
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:18,400
that's ruled by the deadliest
pandemic known to man something

540
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,199
that there is no cure from.
You put them in a situation

541
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:26,900
where, you know, like I said,
the quarantine Zone has been

542
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:28,900
cleared out.
We don't know why.

543
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:32,500
We don't know how but chances
are that was people as well.

544
00:34:32,699 --> 00:34:37,000
We already know the fireflies
have been rebelling against the

545
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,400
bedroom, so it could be the
fireflies.

546
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,199
It could be a whole different
group.

547
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:46,600
I mean, even towards the end of
the episode, I don't know if I

548
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,500
feel like these people are the
fireflies.

549
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,199
I feel like their whole
different contingent but you put

550
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,800
people in those kind of
situations where they've been

551
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,300
controlled for so long Federal,
you know, controlling where they

552
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:04,100
can go, where they can leave the
qz.

553
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,900
How much they earn for their
rations?

554
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:11,000
You put them in a situation like
that and then put them out on

555
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,900
the street where there's even
less resources.

556
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,400
Yeah.
People are going to turn,

557
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,500
they're going to be like, oh,
you know what?

558
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:23,000
I don't know what you I have but
I know you have a nice shiny.

559
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,100
Well, taken care of truck.
That means that you have means

560
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:29,700
somewhere, you have resources
somewhere.

561
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,200
You didn't just pick this up off
the street and say, oh let me,

562
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:36,500
you know, let me try to boost
this and see if it'll go know

563
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:38,500
this thing has been well taken
care of.

564
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:42,600
It runs, it's clean.
So guess what?

565
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,900
You might have some things that
we need in there.

566
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:48,200
So we're just going to take you.
They don't care if it's a man in

567
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,000
a child in there.
They really don't.

568
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:53,400
Aunt.
You know, they just, they're

569
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,300
just looking to, I don't know,
take care of themselves.

570
00:35:57,300 --> 00:36:00,400
And I mean, we see that in all
kinds of stuff Lori mentioned,

571
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,400
the 100 you guys meant your
fear, The Walking Dead, we talk

572
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,000
about The Walking Dead, all the
time.

573
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,400
You see that in just about all
of our villains, in those types

574
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,600
of stories, that's kind of how
they started, they didn't have.

575
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:17,100
And they saw somebody that did
and they were like, oh, okay,

576
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000
it's time for me to take no
negotiation.

577
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,100
No.
Hey, can we?

578
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,000
Share, this.
Can we work together?

579
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,200
No, it's I'm going to take from
you first and then I figure it

580
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,200
out later.
Which is a sad I mean, which is

581
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,200
a sad commentary on human
nature.

582
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,400
But as I think, Mike said it in
this episode and we have said it

583
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,000
and other, you know, review
other shows times like this is

584
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,300
survival of the fittest.
And sometimes that survival

585
00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:49,900
means you have to be willing to
do things that you may not have

586
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:55,800
done in a past life or you may
not have done a few years ago in

587
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,000
order to protect yourself.
That's what you do.

588
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,400
Well I won't survive.
So, alright, yellow coming for

589
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,100
me, you don't, you don't survive
at first because you have

590
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,500
Behemoth of the truck.
I told you I'm coming out but I

591
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:11,800
would have had pancakes.
I would have pancakes that day

592
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,600
so I'm done and a sub from
Jersey.

593
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:21,700
I just would have been gone.
And all I have is it.

594
00:37:21,707 --> 00:37:25,500
I did not spend my childhood
learning all those Girl Scout

595
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:28,000
badges just to die at the first
zombie attack.

596
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:30,300
Okay, I got skills.
It's all I'm saying.

597
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,100
You you got a husband, that's a
prepper, you're going to be

598
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:34,900
fine.
We ain't going to see you until

599
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,400
until like the last couple
episodes of the pain whatever

600
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,200
happens.
So it's like I'm worried about

601
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,600
you on the what floor of an
apartment building Lori second.

602
00:37:44,900 --> 00:37:49,100
Yeah, ain't nobody coming for
you but I do want to help you.

603
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,800
I have a raft in my living room.
Yes.

604
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,100
We've discussed this but we know
we've had this discussion.

605
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:59,700
Yeah, yeah.
It's coming for you because one

606
00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:01,700
the power is going to be cut to
the building.

607
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,300
You stay on one floor faggot.
That's walking up the stairs

608
00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:15,600
nobody but no, my no, I agree
with you but see this, this

609
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:22,800
Trope is interesting because in
previous years before we got The

610
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,500
Walking Dead we got we had a few
you know here and there but the

611
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:30,000
whole post lipstick.
Can you survive?

612
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,900
Can you not survive?
Do what you have to do?

613
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:38,300
What, you know, moral ambiguity
or not, it all boils down to

614
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:43,300
kind of what generation you are.
What your mindset is and you

615
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:48,000
know, how willing are you to put
aside everything that you were

616
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,100
raised and taught as a person to
be DC.

617
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:54,200
You and me what I'm going to
bring a throwback one of my

618
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,000
favorite series that they did
back in the day when Show that

619
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,900
in a civilized setting.
Remember the old series Rome

620
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:05,000
from back in the day?
From the I think was HBO lovely

621
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,000
follows.
Excellent.

622
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,100
I remember it briefly.
Yeah, it was awesome.

623
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:14,400
What the way that they portrayed
the slaves?

624
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:19,300
The the hierarchy of the Roman
Senators, even even crazy as

625
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:21,900
Cleopatra because let's face it
that that chick was crazy.

626
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,700
But the the way that they
survived was awesome, but they

627
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:30,700
adapt it to Their surroundings
and their circumstances,

628
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,300
whenever something would come up
when when he found that the old

629
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:38,100
girl had a kid when he was away
and that she said he was dead

630
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,300
and she passed the kid off as
her grand, as her granddaughter

631
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:48,000
when he took over the tavern and
his his buddy found out that the

632
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,200
girl had killed his wife.
So she could be with him and

633
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,600
that he eventually got her thing
and she defended the terror,

634
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,700
just the way they did it in a
city setting.

635
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:02,400
Final lenses of a little bit to
what we're seeing now in the

636
00:40:02,408 --> 00:40:06,400
last of us, because we're not
out in the sticks were not on an

637
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,000
arc ship, we're not going
through a Stargate.

638
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,600
We're in our local areas, in our
local towns and sort of like Old

639
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,700
Man, Logan an old man Hawkeye
the comic books that we were

640
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:20,700
talking about a while ago and a
couple different podcasts where

641
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:25,200
you have the post-apocalyptic,
but it's still Hunger Games is

642
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,200
another example.
It's still current and new

643
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,300
enough to adapt.
So you adapt.

644
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,100
So, yeah.
So that's the whole concept

645
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:37,500
behind all that, okay?
Yeah.

646
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,200
But um so yeah.
Anyway going back to the asshole

647
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,500
who just decided he was going to
take Joel shit and Joe was like,

648
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:51,400
today is not that day and
tomorrow is not looking good for

649
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,900
you either.
You know, they get into a

650
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,100
shootout and Joel is able to get
into the truck.

651
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:05,500
He's able to get his, his gun
and he tells Ellie to go and

652
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:07,600
hide.
There's like a hole in the wall

653
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:09,300
and he tells her to go in that
hole.

654
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,600
He was like, whatever you do,
whatever you hear you do not

655
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,800
come out of that hole until I
come for you.

656
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,700
So she's in the whole she's
scared.

657
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:19,700
He's out there having the
shootout.

658
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:24,300
And he's holding his own.
He shoots one of the guys.

659
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,200
And one of the other guys is
like, oh, you asshole.

660
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,700
You act on like all my skills,
my to did you miss the part

661
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:36,400
where y'all shooting at him?
Like he was just minding his

662
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,000
business and y'all came after
him.

663
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,200
What?
Y'all was expecting him?

664
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,400
Not to shoot back this man.
Got a this man got a good clean

665
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,700
truck and some resources.
You think he didn't come

666
00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:48,300
prepared.
You think he didn't come with a

667
00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:51,300
gun?
Like seriously.

668
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:58,100
Yeah, he seemed surprised like,
why are you surprised right own?

669
00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:01,200
Humble, missed you up?
Wait, you already trying to do

670
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:08,200
that?
So you know, the second person

671
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,800
runs off, you know, and at this
point, I'm thinking, okay, maybe

672
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,200
he's going to get help or maybe
he got scared.

673
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,700
Maybe he ran out of bullets,
something to that effect, but

674
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:21,900
know what he's doing.
Is he sneaking into the back of

675
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:26,400
the building and Joel is
actually about to go and grab

676
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:31,400
Elly out and this guy comes in,
they get they get into a tussle

677
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,500
they get into a fight.
This guy actually gets the upper

678
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:38,100
Hand on Joel and put some on the
ground and it's choking him out

679
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:41,200
with the gun.
Now, Joel is sitting there, he's

680
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,400
turning quite purple, and he's
kicking his feet.

681
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,900
So, this guy had to have some
strength on them, you know,

682
00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:52,300
again, the guy didn't really
look like much to me, but he's

683
00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:55,500
probably, you know, if he's part
of this group that took over the

684
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:58,100
qz, he's probably not eating
rations.

685
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:00,300
He's probably got access to
food.

686
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,600
He's probably been, you know,
keeping up his strength.

687
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,600
Keeping up his staff.
Aminah, if he's walking around

688
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,300
as one of the guards or one of,
you know, one of the people

689
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:13,300
that's kind of helping to
enforce whatever hierarchy they

690
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:19,300
have in the city right now.
So you know, you got Joel who is

691
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:23,600
worried about Ellie, Joel, who
has been sustaining himself on

692
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,500
rations, who has not had a lot
of sleep because even the night

693
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:32,000
when they were in the forest,
His plan was to go to sleep so

694
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,100
that he could drive all day and
all night and what happened he

695
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:39,800
got up and he stood guard trying
to make sure the Ellie was okay.

696
00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:47,700
So you have him overpowering job
and then you CLE inside and

697
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:50,400
she's getting scared and she
looks at her bag.

698
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,100
I was like she bout to go shoot
this dude.

699
00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:57,900
He just don't know it, and she
does, she comes out of the hole.

700
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,200
She lifts up her gun and she
shoots, dude, in the back

701
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:04,600
apparently, wherever she shot
him.

702
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,700
She probably severed his spine
because he said he couldn't feel

703
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:11,300
his legs.
And at this point he starts

704
00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:13,800
pleaded.
No, no, no, no, don't you mean,

705
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,100
no, it's okay.
We can be friends.

706
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:21,900
I'm sorry, take me to my mama.
Take me to my mom, take me to my

707
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,500
you just try.
To shoot a grown ass man.

708
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,900
And now that you done got shot.
Now, you want to be nice.

709
00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:32,700
Now, you want to be friends now,
you want to say you?

710
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:34,800
Sorry.
Oh, please take me to my mom.

711
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,600
Oh, please, I'm telling you.
He starts, son.

712
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:41,600
He stayed alive a lot longer
than I would have thought him

713
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,700
too.
And I know it's because Joe was

714
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:46,600
Joe was still sitting here
trying to figure out how to

715
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:47,700
fuck.
She get a gun.

716
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:49,700
Like, where did she get the gun
from?

717
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,600
I know that's what he was
thinking Sharif.

718
00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:53,700
I'm sure you.
Figured, you probably figured it

719
00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:57,900
out after he took it too good to
be done about it was Oh, she's

720
00:44:57,900 --> 00:44:59,700
somehow she got it from Franklin
bills.

721
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,200
He had to know that that because
that's the only place that she

722
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,700
could have.
Literally got no working gun

723
00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:07,400
from.
There's the only place that she

724
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,900
could have got one.
I mean behaviors, we need to

725
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:13,900
choose from a ton.
Yeah, I mean it's like and just

726
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:17,000
hit me his tune.
I mean, shout out to that bullet

727
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,400
not being enough of a caliber to
go through him, through his back

728
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,400
and into Joel like it.
Just all it did was sever dude

729
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,200
spine and didn't go completely
through.

730
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,000
His body's probably lobst laws
in its proper spot.

731
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,500
Yeah.
Because you can feels legs.

732
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:38,800
I was like that has to suck just
like will barter I'll trade with

733
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,200
you here.
Take my knife.

734
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:47,200
I mean, it's a good knife.
You were a good Good enough.

735
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,700
Good enough to take that.
Bullet out your spine.

736
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:50,900
I don't think so.
You just made it might have been

737
00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:53,700
with the right surgical hands
but not today.

738
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:55,800
Soda.
That's that's one of those

739
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,000
Crocodile Dundee knives.
That's not necessarily a

740
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:03,100
surgical surgically surgically
able knife, like hell to go to

741
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:05,700
help them.
But yeah, I mean I kind of feel

742
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:07,800
formed it.
I was like nah he was trying to

743
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,800
kill him and I Flush Cutters for
him at all and that you know, is

744
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,100
so sad because I think about
this all the time, especially

745
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:15,900
when we are watching Walking
Dead or what.

746
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:19,300
Like you know these shows will
have you questioning your

747
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:22,900
Humanity because you line ah,
that do had to die.

748
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:26,300
No doubt about it.
No hesitation, nothing kill his

749
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:28,500
ass.
And I'm like, you know what?

750
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,000
That sounds so cold.
But you know, you're looking at

751
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,200
it from that perspective when I
watch these shows, I'm not

752
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:42,700
looking at it as me existing in
real world. 2023 with those

753
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:45,500
rules, those morals, those
standards.

754
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:48,800
No, you I have to adapt to the
world around you and sometimes

755
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:54,700
that does mean, Being cruel.
You know, or maybe I won't even

756
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:58,900
say being cruel because in this
instance, I don't think Joe was

757
00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:00,500
cruel.
I don't think Ellie was cool.

758
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:02,700
These people came after them
first.

759
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:06,400
They were the defending
themselves because if you think

760
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,500
about it, you don't know what
kind of situation these guys are

761
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,200
early as a young woman.
You know what I'm saying?

762
00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:19,000
Yes, she's a kid, but I mean, we
already know from from the last

763
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,800
episode.
She is a young woman.

764
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,100
She has her menstrual period
because she got to shoot down,

765
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:27,700
tampons and was excited about
that, and last step.

766
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:31,600
So these guys could have been
the type of guys to be like, oh,

767
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,000
you're traveling with a little
girl.

768
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,100
Oh, okay.
Because you see all the times in

769
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:40,000
in this type of world, you have
the cruel guys who will kill the

770
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,500
man and, you know, violate the
young woman or don't violate her

771
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:47,400
while he's still alive and make
him watching.

772
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,700
Didn't kill him anyway.
So you know in these types of

773
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:59,300
instances yeah you totally
deserve to die and I have to say

774
00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:01,300
you totally deserved a slow
death.

775
00:48:01,300 --> 00:48:03,700
So the fact that you got
paralyzed first and you had to

776
00:48:03,700 --> 00:48:06,800
sit there and plead and beg for
your life.

777
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,700
Yeah you deserve that whole
humiliation, you deserve that

778
00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:18,000
whole slow death. and I think it
would have been even I don't

779
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,000
want to say poetic justice but
Ellie finished him off.

780
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,100
I would have been like okay.
Now I'm kind of glad she didn't

781
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:32,000
have to because up until this
the conversation they have a few

782
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,100
minutes later.
I was thinking like I said, it's

783
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:38,300
obvious.
She is handled a gun before.

784
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,300
I did not think that she had
ever killed anyone until she

785
00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:47,000
said it later on like when he's
trying to comfort her trying to

786
00:48:47,008 --> 00:48:51,600
tell her look you had to do it.
I'm so sorry that you had to do.

787
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,600
It is my father she was just
like it wasn't my first time.

788
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,800
What did you do what happened?
I don't want to talk about it.

789
00:49:00,808 --> 00:49:03,400
I was like, oh, that's about.
That's about to be a juicy

790
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,100
story.
That's about to be a crazy

791
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:10,600
story, but then I kind of
Wonder, like, did they say in

792
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,500
the episode where we were
introduced to her?

793
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:15,700
Did they say that she was an
orphan from the from jump?

794
00:49:15,700 --> 00:49:18,700
Or did she actually have parents
and then end up in the

795
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:21,300
orphanage?
Do we know cause it was an

796
00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:23,700
orphan?
Yeah I don't think if that's

797
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:26,400
fast but I think she wasn't
looking from the jump.

798
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:28,700
Okay.
So like something that don't

799
00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:33,200
tell thing I think in episode 2
the as like we're your parents

800
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,600
you said I'm an orphan.
Yeah, but that's what I'm

801
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,000
saying.
Like, do we know that hurt that

802
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,800
she was with parents up until a
certain point?

803
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,800
And then they may have died and
then that's when she went to the

804
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,500
federal school and you know, so
I don't you don't know for all

805
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:52,700
we know she's lying.
I don't know if I get that,

806
00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:58,300
she's lying but I feel like
maybe her parents deaths had

807
00:49:58,300 --> 00:50:02,700
something has something to do
with why she has killed before,

808
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,300
you know, whether or not they
were infected.

809
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:11,900
Or, you know, well now on it was
episode, you know, it was

810
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:14,200
episode 1.
What's her name?

811
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:20,900
Is it Marlene?
I mean, like, she's dead,

812
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,800
something happened, and she sent
her to Federal.

813
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:28,100
Okay, that's what I was trying
to remember if that was the

814
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:32,700
conversation I heard where she
had she was responsible for her

815
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:35,400
so she sent her to finish
because she knows that she'll be

816
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,500
taking, okay, I couldn't
remember if that was this show

817
00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:41,900
or something else that I was
watching, sounds like they had

818
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:44,300
that conversation but I wasn't
sure.

819
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:48,700
So, okay, but I mean, they don't
mean anything, she could have,

820
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:51,700
she could have had to do
something with, you know,

821
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:54,500
somebody in fedra.
In there.

822
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:56,900
I mean, she got bit somehow,
maybe some.

823
00:50:56,900 --> 00:51:00,300
Oh, you know what?
Now that I think about it when

824
00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:04,100
test asked her about the
circumstances of how she got

825
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:05,500
bit.
And she was telling her, We

826
00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:09,600
snuck into the old Mall until
say you did that by yourself.

827
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,600
She had a look on her face
before.

828
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,800
She said yes, I don't think she
was by herself.

829
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:20,500
So maybe that was the situation
where she had to kill someone.

830
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,800
You know she got bit, maybe the
other person who was with her

831
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,700
got bit but they turned and she
didn't or maybe the other person

832
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,600
got bit first turned and they
were the one that attacked her

833
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,400
and that's why she had to kill.
Okay, that's my head Canon,

834
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:39,600
until we find out.
Otherwise that's my head Canon.

835
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,700
And in episode, once she did
mention a friend, she asked for

836
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:47,700
a friend was now, did she?
Uh-huh.

837
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:50,800
I think she did.
She mentioned, her friends are

838
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,200
the one that that said something
about the Mortal Kombat game

839
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:55,000
which was.
Yeah.

840
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,800
Probably.
I think so.

841
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:02,800
Yeah, probably.
But anyway, we're going to step

842
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,200
away from Ellie and Joel for a
moment and we're going to go to

843
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:12,000
this group of people who, you
know, they've encountered or

844
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:17,400
they may have encountered.
So there's a group there that's

845
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,900
being led by a woman named
Kathleen and you know, up until

846
00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:24,300
this episode, I never knew
Melanie Minsky's name.

847
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:26,400
I was just I just always know
her face.

848
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,400
I see her in everything and I
never knew her name.

849
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:34,500
I was like, what's her name is
bothering me like anyway, she's

850
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:36,800
amazing in everything she's ever
in.

851
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,200
So when I saw her this, I was
like, yeah.

852
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,900
We and then I saw the type of
person she was playing, I was

853
00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:46,100
like, oh, like oh you're gonna
be one of these people?

854
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:50,400
I don't like because she's
obviously opposite looks like

855
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,200
For me, looking at her.
It seems like she she seems like

856
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,400
the person that was kind of
thrust into her leadership

857
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,800
position, like she kind of seems
like a school teacher that or

858
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,400
something like that, where
something happened and she was

859
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,000
kind of thrust into a position
of leadership and she kind of

860
00:53:10,008 --> 00:53:15,800
had to learn to be The person
that she is now on the Fly just

861
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,200
to learn like, you know,
something happened to someone

862
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,500
she loved.
And it's like, it kind of drove

863
00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:24,800
her to like, she probably ends
up leading.

864
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,700
Could they seems like, dude,
this is a group of

865
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:30,400
revolutionaries that over
through finra and that they're

866
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,800
taking day to go over
everything.

867
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:34,100
So maybe she's something
happened with her and she

868
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:37,300
rallied everybody together to
overthrow him because she had

869
00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:40,200
the guy that she had a prisoner
with had to be.

870
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,300
He was like a finra doctor.
Maybe.

871
00:53:43,300 --> 00:53:47,300
So he delivered her her brother,
right?

872
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:50,200
Well, she's known this man for a
very long time.

873
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:56,400
And apparently, what what has
happened is somebody who was

874
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,700
working with them or who was in
their ranks.

875
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,500
Looks like he defected and she's
trying to get information out of

876
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:05,300
the doctor on when this person
is.

877
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:09,100
And I don't think it was just
him because she read off a list

878
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:11,700
of names.
And it just happened to be that

879
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:14,400
when she read off, this one
person's name Henry.

880
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,100
I guess the doctor had a little
tail.

881
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:20,800
I think I missed it because I
was like You know, how does she

882
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,400
know because she said oh you may
not know a lot but you do know

883
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,200
where Henry is or you've heard
from him and the doctor was

884
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,400
looking at her like how the hell
did you know that?

885
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:33,000
And I'm looking at her, like,
how the hell did you know that?

886
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,200
Like what was the tail?
I missed it, did anybody else

887
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,200
miss it?
Or did anybody else see it?

888
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:42,300
Because I could tell, I was
like, okay, well, she's good at

889
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:45,400
reading people but, you know,
she pulls out a gun like she's

890
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,700
about to shoot him.
She was like, you, I like you

891
00:54:47,700 --> 00:54:50,300
think I'm not going to do and he
just looks at Shakes her head

892
00:54:50,300 --> 00:54:54,200
like, no.
I really think you won't is at

893
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:59,500
that moment and alarm sounds,
she goes outside and here are

894
00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:03,700
the people, the two guys that
job killed on the ground.

895
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:09,000
Now she sees this and she
automatically thinks that it's

896
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:11,600
the work of the person who she's
looking for.

897
00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:15,400
So, at this point, nobody else
knows that Joel and Ellie are in

898
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:24,100
town right now. so she uses that
as fuel for her fire, Her Little

899
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:27,500
Resistance speech, blah blah
blah, go find them.

900
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,500
And when you find them and
anybody who's helping them, kill

901
00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:34,100
them, I was like, oh so this is
the part where we see that the

902
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:39,400
supposedly good guys are just as
bad as the bad guys, because

903
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,500
isn't that how it happens?
You know.

904
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,900
And again, we don't really know
her story.

905
00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:48,200
We do know something about the
fact that her brother has died,

906
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,700
she kind of feels like the
doctor is responsible, and she

907
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:56,200
feels like other people.
I I suppose so yeah, I kind of

908
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,600
get what you're saying, Mike
about her being through Us in

909
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,700
this position but she doesn't
look like she's fighting it at

910
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:03,900
all.
Like she looks very comfortable

911
00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:08,700
there and the people rallied to
her, they listen to her and then

912
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:12,200
after she says that, you know go
find them and kill them.

913
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:15,700
She walks back in the room.
She tells her people to open the

914
00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:19,200
door to the doctor cell, and she
stands outside and she shoots

915
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,400
him.
And I did notice that about her

916
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,300
that she shot him from afar.
Far.

917
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:27,200
She couldn't, she wouldn't let
herself go back in and get close

918
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,600
to him and shoot him.
I think because she wouldn't

919
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,300
have been able to you know, this
is somebody I don't think she'll

920
00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:36,200
think she will do this.
You want to be that close to

921
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,100
him.
She was just like as soon as

922
00:56:38,107 --> 00:56:41,000
soon as it became obvious that
there's someone out there

923
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,700
killing her people and he
probably she Pros.

924
00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:47,500
Like he knows even though he had
no idea like it would that it

925
00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:50,500
was Joel and Ellie.
He was she was like I was them

926
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,000
to his assume she's like, you
know, I fuck this dude.

927
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:54,900
Open the door.
Boom in the problem.

928
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:55,700
All right.
Yeah.

929
00:56:55,700 --> 00:56:58,900
But no I'm saying I think she
did it from afar because like

930
00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:02,400
when you see her with him he's
playing.

931
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,600
All of these emotions and this
this shared relationship in this

932
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,400
shared past that they have and
you could see like she really I

933
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,300
don't think she would have shot
him prior to that.

934
00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:19,200
And I think if she had gone back
in and said, hey, so they killed

935
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,000
two of our people.
You need to tell us where they

936
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,600
are.
I think there was still a chance

937
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,700
that he still could have talked
her down and that's why she

938
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:27,200
didn't go in.
And she was like, nope, I'm not

939
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,700
giving him a chance.
Let me go ahead and do this

940
00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:31,900
right now while I'm pissed and I
have the nerve, boom.

941
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:37,500
You know, but I could see that.
Yeah, I don't know.

942
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:41,100
She's too emotional for me like
that.

943
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:43,500
They didn't seem like a rational
decision.

944
00:57:43,700 --> 00:57:50,500
No, I mean, because she he's a
doctor like, help people.

945
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,200
Yeah, there was an irrational.
It seems like everything you

946
00:57:54,200 --> 00:58:00,100
see, she's probably.
I was thinking about where Yeah,

947
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:01,900
everything she's doing is
impulsive.

948
00:58:01,900 --> 00:58:05,800
I bet she'd led the revolt
against Federer was probably

949
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,400
impulsion as well.
She's just yeah, she's like,

950
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,200
she's gonna be a problem.
Yeah.

951
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:19,200
So not only she is going to be a
problem, but as they're looking

952
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:23,200
for this guy, Henry, and
apparently he has a, he either

953
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,800
has a son or he has a young boy
with him Named Sam.

954
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,900
You know, we see an ad Like
where they have apparently been

955
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:33,100
staying and now it's been found
out.

956
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:37,500
You see the empty cans, you see
drawings that that the child has

957
00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:43,300
created of them being
superheroes and then her right

958
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:48,700
hand guy which I can't remember
what his name is in the show but

959
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,000
he takes her downstairs to the
basement.

960
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,900
He was like, yeah, I got to show
you something else, so they walk

961
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:59,800
into this room.
And there is broken Concrete in

962
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,600
a huge circle.
Almost, it almost looks like a

963
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:08,300
giant took a sledgehammer and
broke the concrete open and

964
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:10,300
she's just looking at, she's
like, oh shit.

965
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,000
Um, and he's like, what are we
supposed to do?

966
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,700
And as they're saying that, you
see the whole start to breathe,

967
00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:21,000
like, something is trying to
come, and he'll know.

968
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:33,600
Kill it with fire right now, not
now, but right now making noise.

969
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:36,700
Y'all are making noise.
Y'all are just outside the door.

970
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:39,000
Like y'all have closed, the door
and y'all are having a whole

971
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,500
conversation.
They're like that.

972
00:59:41,500 --> 00:59:43,700
Like that little bitty door is
going to be enough to hold them

973
00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:46,800
back and he's telling them.
So when should we tell everyone?

974
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,900
She was like, not yet.
Let's just handle, will we?

975
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,200
Let's just handle what we can
handle.

976
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,400
We'll deal with this.
After she said, listen to her

977
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,400
right here man, though.
Like He looks like he's no he

978
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,900
knows what he's doing and he's
telling her, we need to deal

979
00:59:59,900 --> 01:00:01,300
with this.
She like now.

980
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:06,800
Yeah, I know side note.
That guy is the actual voice

981
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,400
actor who voices Joel in the
video game.

982
01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:13,900
Oh voices Joe.
No.

983
01:00:13,900 --> 01:00:17,400
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy?
Yes, you're right.

984
01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:18,400
He voices.
Okay.

985
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:22,300
Yeah.
So yeah.

986
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,800
So he might know some things are
too but yeah.

987
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,300
I was like it was like do you
think how big that hole is like?

988
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,000
I don't know who's up under
there.

989
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,500
I don't know what's up.
Like like like Michelle's

990
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,600
screen, name says what's
underground handle that first

991
01:00:40,700 --> 01:00:44,800
sound of that.
Shit first because if you don't,

992
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:48,500
then you're going to have a
people problem and an infected

993
01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:52,300
problem or a clicker problem.
You can't handle both of those

994
01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:56,500
problems at the same time or if
you can't handle those three

995
01:00:56,500 --> 01:00:58,300
problems because you have to
think about it.

996
01:00:58,300 --> 01:01:01,900
Infected and clickers are two
different breeds of the same

997
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:03,800
problem.
Yeah.

998
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,400
In like, what is this?
All this effort energy.

999
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:14,700
You put it in the find a kid and
another person bad Like what

1000
01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:16,300
what how big is the three are
they?

1001
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:21,800
Yeah, right because they were
informants or it turns somebody

1002
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,400
in, but you guys are freaking
problem and the graphics need to

1003
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,700
take care of the children.
Oh yeah, we'll just deal with

1004
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:32,900
this later.
We gotta find Henry and Sam why

1005
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,400
like really Do you not know
what's going on in the world

1006
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:39,100
oils?
The problem is going to deal

1007
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:46,600
with you David whatever?
I was like.

1008
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,800
Oh okay, so she's going to be
and I feel like that's what

1009
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,000
emotions again.
That's that's her emotions

1010
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,900
again.
They're Paving her actions.

1011
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,600
Yeah, and that's you.
I've got to say something how it

1012
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,700
goes going to jump.
All over me, but I let it go.

1013
01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:04,000
No.
Say it, say it.

1014
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,500
Say, it was.
Nothing about about women

1015
01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:11,200
leaders and all that stuff.
I'm not getting into that Kurt.

1016
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:16,700
Yeah, it's not accurate but she
she's being emotional.

1017
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:39,700
It is CD, but, you know, because
we, hey, we saw Rick makes an

1018
01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:42,100
emotional decision as well and
walking dead.

1019
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:44,500
So it's all good.
Yeah, exactly.

1020
01:02:45,900 --> 01:02:49,700
We'll need to go to you.
Thank you, but yeah, I'm just

1021
01:02:49,700 --> 01:02:51,600
doing this thing.
I'm just, I'm just doing it for

1022
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,700
entertainment purposes.
She is passionate about her

1023
01:02:55,700 --> 01:03:02,400
goals and now I have to say I'm
saying go ahead thinking clearly

1024
01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:07,900
she's not thinking clearly, and
I think Think it's it's kind of

1025
01:03:07,900 --> 01:03:11,300
like one of those things where
you have a person and I'm going

1026
01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:14,200
to compare her right now to the
Governor from The Walking Dead.

1027
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:19,000
So you have this group of people
that you are leading that you

1028
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,000
are trying to, you know, keep
safe that you are trying to make

1029
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:27,100
sure that they have everything
that they need and you start

1030
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:31,700
making decisions that may not
necessarily be the best for

1031
01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:35,200
them.
And I feel like in the back, The

1032
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,100
mind they're always thinking
okay but what if I'm, what if I

1033
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:45,000
fail, what if I fail?
Because in her instance, if you

1034
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,200
are the one who helped bring
down the walls of the qz, you

1035
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,800
not have people out in the open
where the infected could be

1036
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:57,900
where clickers could be.
And now you have a physical

1037
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:02,000
representation of How deep the
shit is that you were standing

1038
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,900
in.
You have this big hole you have

1039
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,800
Nothing moving up under the
ground.

1040
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,200
Now, granted we don't.
What's up under there?

1041
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,000
That could have been people, we
don't know.

1042
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:18,800
But chances are, those are some
Infected I didn't hear any

1043
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,300
clicking.
So I'm going to I'm going to go

1044
01:04:20,300 --> 01:04:26,900
with infected for right now.
If you don't handle your shit.

1045
01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:30,900
Now you're going to have a
problem that's going to affect

1046
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:33,500
all of the people that you are
trying to say.

1047
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,400
And then you're going to have a
even bigger problem when they

1048
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,300
realize, oh she can't keep us
safe.

1049
01:04:40,700 --> 01:04:43,300
She brought us out of where we
were safe.

1050
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:46,400
We should have stayed in there.
It's her fault.

1051
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:51,800
Especially if both start dying.
an especially if people start

1052
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:56,600
dying because you didn't warn
people that some shit was about

1053
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:02,400
to pop off, Yeah, she's going to
have some problems and she needs

1054
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,800
to start prioritizing because I
don't think she's prioritizing

1055
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,300
in quite the right way, right
now.

1056
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,700
At all.
Yeah, she's out there.

1057
01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:16,000
She's gonna last that long.
I think that that her,ignore

1058
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,100
her, ignore any, the bubbling
bubbling brown sugar attorney

1059
01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:22,000
that building is going to come
back and bite her in the ass.

1060
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,000
I think I just think that that's
good.

1061
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,000
That's something that's
something that's going to be.

1062
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:34,100
That's them is definitely gonna
come back and bite her CFCs.

1063
01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:39,300
She's only gonna be probably
yeah, she's the one episode

1064
01:05:39,300 --> 01:05:42,400
villain.
We're just going to make it when

1065
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,900
I already learned from the first
two episodes not to get too

1066
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:47,900
comfortable with any first three
episodes.

1067
01:05:47,900 --> 01:05:50,000
I've learned not to get too
comfortable with anybody in this

1068
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,500
show so I'm like, is she really
that next episode?

1069
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:55,300
And I knew brother.
No figured out her name.

1070
01:05:55,300 --> 01:05:58,600
Like whatever like you did
person number four.

1071
01:05:58,700 --> 01:06:00,700
Yes got you.
You just next?

1072
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,100
Yeah.
But they're going to make us not

1073
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:07,900
like her first and then, then
we're going to get A dead and

1074
01:06:07,900 --> 01:06:13,400
will be, I don't know, maybe
they'll change it next episode

1075
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,400
but I don't know.
Even just looking at the

1076
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,300
previews for the next episodes
like is some shit about to go

1077
01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:20,400
down.
So that was her.

1078
01:06:20,500 --> 01:06:23,100
Her son was the one that led
shot in the spine, right?

1079
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,700
I don't think we know.
Oh shit, I don't think it was

1080
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,000
her son.
We saw his drizzle me.

1081
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:36,500
I'm making that inference.
Just because it's like I will

1082
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:43,400
see any other women and it seems
like everything I think that the

1083
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:48,200
yeah, but she also wasn't she
went to broken up over the fake.

1084
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,700
There was Brian she went to
broken up over the bride being

1085
01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:56,300
taken at all.
Yeah, I don't actually wasn't

1086
01:06:56,300 --> 01:06:58,000
concerned about finding his
killer.

1087
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:02,900
She still trying to look for For
Sam and hearing what she thinks

1088
01:07:02,900 --> 01:07:04,100
that they had something to do
with it.

1089
01:07:04,300 --> 01:07:07,700
That's why she can't read some
of the people that was with him

1090
01:07:07,900 --> 01:07:11,500
had something to do with that.
But I mean, yeah, by the way,

1091
01:07:11,500 --> 01:07:16,400
she was in broken up at all.
She didn't blink, she didn't

1092
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,300
bad, and I didn't side.
She's like, yeah.

1093
01:07:20,300 --> 01:07:24,600
I think Brian was pleading for
his life and I think he was

1094
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,300
invoking mom, so he could get,
he can survive.

1095
01:07:28,300 --> 01:07:33,000
No trying to humanize himself.
Of refurb possible, Slayer?

1096
01:07:33,500 --> 01:07:37,700
Yeah, shouts out to Brian for
annoying knowing how was it

1097
01:07:37,700 --> 01:07:40,200
seeing him?
What are they, where they called

1098
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:45,200
the people, the interrogators,
the people that come on, see

1099
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:49,200
what kidnappings or like hostage
situations and negotiators

1100
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,600
because they haven't having to
go, she ate her tactics.

1101
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,700
Like, actually, having people
see, see you as a person and not

1102
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:58,300
just something something to kill
or to take hostages like, I'm

1103
01:07:58,300 --> 01:08:00,500
sorry, my name's Brian.
I'm Brian.

1104
01:08:00,500 --> 01:08:02,900
I'm a person.
I think he'll see my mother.

1105
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,100
I have a mother.
I have hobbies.

1106
01:08:05,300 --> 01:08:09,400
I like to read.
He only did that because I'm a

1107
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,400
Libra.
He saw Ellie and probably made

1108
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,600
the assumption that Ellie was
Joel's daughter.

1109
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:20,000
And so that's what definitely
that's what he was playing on.

1110
01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:24,100
You know it was like okay yeah I
got a mama to you.

1111
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:27,500
We don't give a fuck about your
mom and we don't give a fuck

1112
01:08:27,500 --> 01:08:39,200
about you by stay alive.
But so, while Kathleen is

1113
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:43,500
sending people out to look for
Henry and the people, he

1114
01:08:43,500 --> 01:08:51,100
escaped, Joel, and Ellie are
hiding and, you know, trying to

1115
01:08:51,108 --> 01:08:54,300
find a way to get to.
There's this tall building she

1116
01:08:54,300 --> 01:08:57,399
sees in the distance and he's
like, okay, well when the

1117
01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:59,100
streets clear, we're going to
make a run for it.

1118
01:08:59,108 --> 01:09:01,300
We're going to try to go to that
bill and go to the highest

1119
01:09:01,300 --> 01:09:04,399
point, kind of get, you know,
get to it. point we can look

1120
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:12,899
around see what's going on that
sort of thing and Again, you get

1121
01:09:12,899 --> 01:09:16,399
a little comedy from them
because when they finally do get

1122
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:20,200
to the building, they realize
they have to walk and there's a

1123
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,399
thing.
When she's like are you going to

1124
01:09:22,407 --> 01:09:24,399
be able to do this either?
How far are we going?

1125
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:25,800
Are we going all the way to the
top?

1126
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,899
Nope, just as long as my legs
can take me.

1127
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,800
And there's a trouble that.
Yeah, there's that reference

1128
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:38,000
again about the age difference.
Because in this show in this

1129
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,100
point 2023 Joel is 56 years old
Old.

1130
01:09:41,899 --> 01:09:46,600
So, I already know if me at 47
and my knees can't handle it.

1131
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:54,300
There's do what 33 stories.
The thing about this has he even

1132
01:09:54,300 --> 01:10:00,300
have a van that I don't think
he's been asleep because he

1133
01:10:00,300 --> 01:10:02,900
drove he drove and be when they
were camping.

1134
01:10:02,900 --> 01:10:07,400
He's probably up all night when
he drove and he drove he and

1135
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,800
then he got into a firefight and
then and the Firefly he almost

1136
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:15,500
got choked out.
They can see it's okay.

1137
01:10:15,500 --> 01:10:17,300
But, you know, I've been through
a lot.

1138
01:10:19,700 --> 01:10:21,600
Yeah.
Last couple of days.

1139
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,100
He's been, you know, right.
I was just struggling at this

1140
01:10:25,100 --> 01:10:26,200
point.
Yeah.

1141
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,800
But I mean, he sat down and he
was like, no, come on.

1142
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,000
He was like, give me a minute.
She was like, get your lazy ass

1143
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,800
up.
He's like, okay, this kid just

1144
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,200
called me lazy.
Let me get up.

1145
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:40,300
So they make it, you know, I
guess a few more floors and they

1146
01:10:40,300 --> 01:10:41,800
decide.
Okay, this is where we're going

1147
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:47,800
to sleep for the night because
your, you would think Okay.

1148
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,700
It's the one building that
nobody would probably come to.

1149
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,600
I mean, he does what he's
supposed to do.

1150
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,500
He sets out a little trap, he
breaks out some glass.

1151
01:10:57,500 --> 01:10:59,900
He puts it on the floor so that
he can hear it.

1152
01:11:00,700 --> 01:11:04,800
And that's when Ellie makes this
one observation.

1153
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,000
Again, I tell you that, that is
an old soul in the young body

1154
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,400
because she notices way more
than she should at her age.

1155
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:15,400
You know, when he's doing the
when he's putting laying out the

1156
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,200
glass and stuff and she Like
what are you doing?

1157
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,700
He said trying to make sure
nobody comes in here.

1158
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:22,600
She was like, oh, crunch crunch
crunch.

1159
01:11:22,700 --> 01:11:26,000
She's like, no, I was just
asking because are you even

1160
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,300
going to be able to hear it?
Because I noticed that you can't

1161
01:11:28,300 --> 01:11:32,400
hear well on your right side and
he just kind of looks at her

1162
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,000
like he or she realized that not
looking at her.

1163
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,400
Like, how the hell you realize
that just?

1164
01:11:38,500 --> 01:11:41,300
Okay.
I guess she's observing.

1165
01:11:41,500 --> 01:11:43,600
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe they teach that stuff in

1166
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,600
federal school and maybe that I
don't know, I just feel like

1167
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:51,200
they're Maybe a little bit more
to Ellie than we've seen so far,

1168
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,100
because this girl is way too
knowledgeable for someone who's

1169
01:11:55,100 --> 01:12:00,100
grown up sheltered in the qz.
Well you know sitting with him

1170
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:04,300
in the car on the right side she
probably said had to repeat

1171
01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:07,000
herself.
A few times to him in the car.

1172
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:12,100
So she may have noticed have
been if he didn't hear Brian

1173
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:14,700
sneaking up on them.
Came upon his right side.

1174
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,200
No Brian.
Came up on left.

1175
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,300
Do this right.
You decompose laughs?

1176
01:12:19,300 --> 01:12:21,000
Oh, okay.
But she probably knows.

1177
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:25,800
Yeah, because being the person
who's deaf in his left ear.

1178
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,300
Yeah, it's easy.
When People talking to you over

1179
01:12:29,300 --> 01:12:32,600
here, you, can you say that
again, you know, you always try

1180
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,700
to make sure you're walking on
the inside of the person.

1181
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,700
She probably noticed.
Right?

1182
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:42,400
Right so and inside out to Jewel
for having watch Mission

1183
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,400
Impossible like the rest of us.
Exactly.

1184
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,600
Yeah, the fan.
Oh goodness.

1185
01:12:50,700 --> 01:12:52,200
But it didn't, but it didn't
help many.

1186
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:57,100
We're also being the person who
sleeps whoo-hoo, sometimes

1187
01:12:57,100 --> 01:12:59,300
sleeps on his right side.
So you don't have to hear

1188
01:12:59,300 --> 01:13:00,900
nothing.
Yeah.

1189
01:13:00,900 --> 01:13:03,200
You know, if you different, when
you're hard of hearing, when

1190
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,700
here you sleep in the other, you
know, you're nothing.

1191
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,100
What number he was sleeping on
his right ear, so he should have

1192
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:14,100
heard, but I think I feel like,
because that was like, they were

1193
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:17,200
already in the room.
I feel like, well, they might

1194
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,700
have been somewhere in the
building, but I feel like,

1195
01:13:19,700 --> 01:13:22,800
because he hadn't slept in days,
he probably.

1196
01:13:22,900 --> 01:13:28,900
Probably slept deeper than that.
Yeah, he was knocked out, you

1197
01:13:28,900 --> 01:13:31,800
know, and it's kind of like one
of those things where he was, he

1198
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,400
was just exhausted.
I mean, think about the way he

1199
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,700
laughed at Ellie's, lame little
joke.

1200
01:13:36,700 --> 01:13:39,000
Now, I'm not gonna lie.
That one had me laughing.

1201
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,500
I mean, he was sitting there
laughing so hard, he had tears

1202
01:13:42,500 --> 01:13:44,600
coming out.
I did too because I was like,

1203
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:49,000
they kind of needed that that
little release, but I was like,

1204
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,800
yes, I'm shit about to happen.
They finna get caught and sure

1205
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,900
Love, she calls for, but, I
mean, we'll see.

1206
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,800
I don't think do we really get a
good look at the layout of the,

1207
01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:03,500
of the room there in the sweet
that they were in?

1208
01:14:03,700 --> 01:14:07,200
Because I think that they were
there, had, they might have come

1209
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:11,100
from the other side or come
around, like, like, around the

1210
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:13,500
glass.
I know, I think they probably

1211
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:17,100
came through the glass because I
think what happened was he

1212
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:22,700
started out going to sleep on on
his right side, but when Ellie

1213
01:14:22,700 --> 01:14:25,700
was He's calling for him.
He had turned over and was

1214
01:14:25,700 --> 01:14:28,400
facing her.
So his deaf ear was up.

1215
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,700
So he wouldn't have heard the
glass.

1216
01:14:30,700 --> 01:14:34,500
He wouldn't have heard anything.
So, because remember she had to

1217
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:38,700
yell to get him to wake up.
Yeah, you sleeping on his left,

1218
01:14:38,700 --> 01:14:40,900
he was sleeping on here.
Yes late.

1219
01:14:40,900 --> 01:14:43,200
Yeah.
Hey, he went to sleep at first

1220
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,600
on his right ear, but then when
we saw him, the next time he was

1221
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,800
sleeping on his left ear, which
means his right ear was the one

1222
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,200
exposed So he wouldn't have
heard anything.

1223
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,200
I mean, like I said, she had to
yell to get his attention and

1224
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,400
then of course, she yelled to
get his attention because she's

1225
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,900
standing there.
There's a man holding her at

1226
01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:05,500
gunpoint.
And then when Joel turns around,

1227
01:15:05,500 --> 01:15:08,400
there's a young boy holding him
at gunpoint.

1228
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:13,000
He does the motion and then we
could face black.

1229
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,700
But I was like, okay.
So I'm guessing this is Henry

1230
01:15:15,700 --> 01:15:18,200
and Sam.
Now, Right?

1231
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,200
So that's going to be
interesting, but I will say

1232
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,500
this, looking at the promos for
next week, I don't think this is

1233
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:28,900
going to be a hostile situation
for too long because it looks

1234
01:15:28,900 --> 01:15:33,500
like they are working together.
Maybe to keep each other safe,

1235
01:15:33,500 --> 01:15:35,300
maybe.
Because they both have children

1236
01:15:35,300 --> 01:15:38,200
involved, they're like, okay,
you know what, we don't really

1237
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,000
need to be at each other odds
with each other right now.

1238
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,700
We need to be trying to help
each other, to make sure these

1239
01:15:43,700 --> 01:15:47,200
kids are safe.
That's what I'm thinking is Is

1240
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:54,400
the situation.
But, yeah, I mean it would have

1241
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,500
been a good Hideout like Henry
and Sam.

1242
01:15:58,500 --> 01:16:02,900
I feel like if they had, if they
were somewhere around, they were

1243
01:16:02,900 --> 01:16:06,700
paying attention.
They probably would have noticed

1244
01:16:06,700 --> 01:16:09,100
that it wasn't the people that
were looking for them.

1245
01:16:09,100 --> 01:16:12,600
And I'm thinking that's probably
why they approached them.

1246
01:16:12,900 --> 01:16:14,800
Maybe they were probably
following them.

1247
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,600
Yeah, and they probably heard
the Laughing, they I probably

1248
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,700
saw that.
It was a man in the young girl.

1249
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,400
Again, there's nothing about the
way, the Ellie and Joel.

1250
01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:27,500
Are with each other.
Now, that would make you think

1251
01:16:27,500 --> 01:16:31,900
anything other than they might
be father and daughter, you

1252
01:16:31,900 --> 01:16:36,600
know?
So maybe Henry saw that and was

1253
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:41,300
like okay they might be safe but
just in case we'll just hold

1254
01:16:41,300 --> 01:16:45,100
them at gunpoint for right now,
just until we determine how

1255
01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:48,400
dangerous they are.
But yeah, I don't see that being

1256
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:53,700
a contentious friendship or
relationship because they both

1257
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,200
Have children that they're
trying to keep safe.

1258
01:16:56,700 --> 01:17:01,700
And at this point, Henry doesn't
know that people might be after

1259
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:04,000
Joel.
I mean right now, Joel thinks

1260
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,700
people might be after him
because he killed two people.

1261
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:12,000
So and you know this is this is
more of an uneasy Alliance is my

1262
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:16,100
friend is this is more of an
uneasy alliance between the two

1263
01:17:16,100 --> 01:17:18,900
is like, like I don't know, you
are real trust you but you're

1264
01:17:18,900 --> 01:17:22,400
not trying to kill me right now.
So cool.

1265
01:17:22,900 --> 01:17:23,700
All right.
Bye-bye.

1266
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,100
I'm watching you keep my eye on
you.

1267
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,000
They just don't do it.
Don't do anything stupid shit.

1268
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:34,800
Yeah, I don't know if I feel
like Kathleen's group is a

1269
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:39,200
firefly group, it seemed a no,
then there's a little bit

1270
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,100
different from the way Marlene
was approaching.

1271
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:48,500
And even the way the group that
they came across in the state

1272
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:51,900
capital, I don't know.
They seemed a little more

1273
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,100
Unorganized.
I don't know if I'll ever see

1274
01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:59,600
more random.
Yeah, they're more random.

1275
01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:06,200
Yeah, you know, like one of
those ragtag bunch of Misfits.

1276
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,400
Like a whole bunch of people
just came together was like

1277
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:12,200
we're sick of the of the, the
quarantine Zone.

1278
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,100
But we're also seeing more like
they were like the Wolverines.

1279
01:18:15,500 --> 01:18:16,800
Yeah.
They're like the Wolverines and

1280
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,000
Red Dawn.
It's like, you know, they just

1281
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:25,000
kind of happened upon Oh yeah.
Because I mean just like you

1282
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,400
know, they're Scrappy they
overcome and there but they have

1283
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,300
no idea what the fuck they're
doing and it's like it will and

1284
01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:33,600
there's like they have gaps in
what they do.

1285
01:18:33,700 --> 01:18:40,000
So I think that's more of a app
description of them, but I don't

1286
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,100
know.
It looks like they're going to

1287
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:45,400
cause some trouble for maybe at
least one episode, you know?

1288
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:50,200
And it's so crazy to me that we
are already like halfway through

1289
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,800
the season.
Like it's going by fast.

1290
01:18:53,900 --> 01:18:57,800
It's going by very fast.
Yeah, well, I think this show

1291
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,800
has nine episodes for season
one.

1292
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,400
If I was playing the game, I was
had to restart several times.

1293
01:19:05,500 --> 01:19:10,800
This is I will, that's why,
that's why people get bad joke.

1294
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,200
Now, people say the game is so
unrealistic because they,

1295
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,800
because the only died, nobody
died in the museum in the first

1296
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,300
episode and people usually died
like 18 times there than the

1297
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:29,900
other controller, right?
I mean, they already killed

1298
01:19:29,900 --> 01:19:32,000
says, we don't need to see a
whole bunch of people died.

1299
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,700
Like y'all already look you
introduce test.

1300
01:19:34,700 --> 01:19:36,800
You killed her off two episodes
later.

1301
01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:39,700
After we did get a brief, you
know, we get to dig in to see

1302
01:19:39,700 --> 01:19:41,400
her briefly in the third
episode.

1303
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:45,200
But yeah, you took her from us.
We got Frank and Bill for one

1304
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,400
episode.
You took them from us so on,

1305
01:19:49,300 --> 01:19:52,100
huh?
No, I'm just saying they were

1306
01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:56,200
gone.
So yeah, so someone's leaving.

1307
01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:58,300
Yeah.
So like you said Kathleen might

1308
01:19:58,300 --> 01:20:01,900
only be around for maybe one
more episode Sammy Henry.

1309
01:20:01,900 --> 01:20:05,800
I don't know.
Maybe, I don't know.

1310
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,000
I think the whatever is in the
ground is going to wipe them all

1311
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:14,700
out and daily and Joel are going
to be the last two out.

1312
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,600
Yeah.
I kind of heard something about

1313
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,600
saying, but Imma keep it to
myself until it.

1314
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,000
Keep Wishin.
I heard the same thing, but

1315
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,600
yeah, the show is called The
Last of Us.

1316
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:35,100
So, you know, spoiler alert.
But yeah, exactly.

1317
01:20:36,300 --> 01:20:42,700
Yeah, but The show keeps getting
better and better.

1318
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:48,100
I'm just like the show is also
and I'm going to throw in a sort

1319
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:51,000
of a geek.
Dad, Dad joke moment.

1320
01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:55,200
Oh, I was, I was showing the
husband, he looks at me and he

1321
01:20:55,208 --> 01:20:58,600
goes Glory.
What he's like working on Game

1322
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,800
of Thrones?
Yes, yes, they were on.

1323
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,500
Give those good luck.
I just, I had to walk out of the

1324
01:21:05,508 --> 01:21:07,400
room.
I was like, all righty, then

1325
01:21:08,500 --> 01:21:10,200
yep.
They were on Game of Thrones.

1326
01:21:10,500 --> 01:21:17,900
But not together because exactly
about 33 and then see ya season.

1327
01:21:17,900 --> 01:21:23,300
I think she was introduced in
season 4 or and then went on,

1328
01:21:23,300 --> 01:21:26,100
for their.
Yeah, when it was like, wow.

1329
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,600
Oh God.
But the thing is is that I

1330
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,900
really appreciate the way that
they're doing this story.

1331
01:21:34,300 --> 01:21:38,100
Because they're, they're doing
two things at once, they're

1332
01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:40,400
taking their time to really let
us fall in love.

1333
01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:43,100
His characters.
But at the same time they're

1334
01:21:43,100 --> 01:21:47,600
advancing the action enough that
we're not getting boring lost

1335
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:52,600
where I see what you did there.
Yeah.

1336
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,800
Yeah.
Because this is the first season

1337
01:21:56,900 --> 01:22:01,400
and as a vicious, yes, the the
show that I just mentioned, I

1338
01:22:01,407 --> 01:22:04,000
mean, every episode we were
there, we were there.

1339
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:09,000
I mean, Mark and I would come
home, literally, on on it was

1340
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,600
because we used to watch it off.
Off of whatever the old Amazon

1341
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,100
think and we would watch a
premier night.

1342
01:22:15,100 --> 01:22:18,500
But the next day we'd wash it
and everyone was glued.

1343
01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:20,700
Same thing with Sleepy Hollow.
Okay?

1344
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:26,000
I mean, the show's obviously
they started on the shows that

1345
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:29,800
you can't wait to watch.
You can't maybe watch it right

1346
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,400
there, but you can watch the
next day.

1347
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,200
Everyone talks about, you know,
exactly what happened but you

1348
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,900
sit there and you literally
watch it as soon as you get

1349
01:22:38,900 --> 01:22:41,200
home.
And then some Songs are so good.

1350
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,700
You watch it twice.
This is what the last of us is

1351
01:22:43,900 --> 01:22:46,600
they've managed to capture that
magic again.

1352
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,400
I mean the only thing that I
could think that's might be

1353
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:53,000
closed is Manifest.
No please.

1354
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:57,300
No, no.
I'm sorry I went there.

1355
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,400
No Anthony said don't make that
comparison, I haven't seen

1356
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,700
manifest so I don't know.
I've heard some people say they

1357
01:23:03,700 --> 01:23:05,200
love it.
I've heard some people say is

1358
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,800
in, oh, I don't know.
Okay, well, I'm just saying it's

1359
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,500
a phenomenon is what I'm going
to say.

1360
01:23:09,500 --> 01:23:14,000
Absolutely You know, she I think
she's talking about the last of

1361
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,500
us being a phenomenon.
Yeah, I'm not talking about

1362
01:23:16,500 --> 01:23:19,300
manifest.
I see you manifest and I kind of

1363
01:23:19,308 --> 01:23:22,200
agree with you on that.
But what I'm saying is a

1364
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:27,200
phenomena, a show that you
cannot stop watching because

1365
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:32,400
it's so engaging and you're just
barely into halfway through Four

1366
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:33,900
Season, you're like, gotta watch
it.

1367
01:23:33,900 --> 01:23:35,200
Gotta watch it Iowa.
It's today.

1368
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,900
It's like house the Dragon Last
Summer last summer fall.

1369
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,200
It's like, you're there and you
have to Watch it.

1370
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,100
So it's actually kind of cool
because you know, this is this

1371
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:48,800
is February, you know, and it's
like sort of dead couple of

1372
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,000
months until March when things
start taking up.

1373
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,300
So I'm actually glad this, you
know, came out when it did.

1374
01:23:54,300 --> 01:23:57,600
But I have to say, I have to
give it to him.

1375
01:23:57,900 --> 01:24:01,700
This is a phenomenal show.
Like I said, I don't watch

1376
01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:06,500
zombie shows but this has my
attention like 100%.

1377
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:11,200
Okay, well I think I don't think
this is Not a zombie show.

1378
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,900
They're not.
So yeah, this is this episode

1379
01:24:14,900 --> 01:24:20,000
was not as good as the last
three, so, I'm not, I'm not

1380
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,700
gonna stick with he's getting
better and better.

1381
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,000
I think this was, this was a
okay episode.

1382
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,500
It had a few good things in it.
The dad jokes, mainly, but other

1383
01:24:30,500 --> 01:24:32,400
than that, it was all right.
Are you at?

1384
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:39,700
Oh, so you're a fan of them?
Now, no, I'm just saying for the

1385
01:24:39,700 --> 01:24:41,000
water heater.
Of water.

1386
01:24:41,900 --> 01:24:49,400
No, no.
I mean I don't know.

1387
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:53,700
Maybe it's because we're
starting to be introduced to the

1388
01:24:53,700 --> 01:24:58,800
quote-unquote criminal element
of the show so I don't know.

1389
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,600
It's taking away a little bit
from Joel and Ellie which I

1390
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,900
don't know II like this episode.
I thought it was, you know, I

1391
01:25:05,907 --> 01:25:08,500
thought it was great because we
do get to see.

1392
01:25:09,300 --> 01:25:13,500
A different aspect of you know,
what are supposed to be the good

1393
01:25:13,500 --> 01:25:18,600
guys and you see, it's kind of
like one of those things where

1394
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,600
you see where the line is, where
the line is kind of murky.

1395
01:25:22,100 --> 01:25:25,800
Like, I feel like Kathleen and
her people, whatever it is.

1396
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:30,500
They did to overthrow the qz.
If the qz was not doing what

1397
01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:33,700
they were supposed to be doing
for the people and then you have

1398
01:25:33,700 --> 01:25:36,500
a rebellion, okay, I can
understand that.

1399
01:25:36,500 --> 01:25:41,400
I get that but if you are
Starting to become the

1400
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:47,200
oppressor, which I don't know.
It kind of looks like that might

1401
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:51,900
be the direction they're going
with this group, I don't know.

1402
01:25:51,900 --> 01:25:54,100
It's just, I don't know.
It's interesting.

1403
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,700
It'll be interesting to see what
this group is really about and

1404
01:25:57,700 --> 01:26:02,400
and to see how that affects Joel
and Ellie and they're also like

1405
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,500
you said, what the hell did
Henry do that?

1406
01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:08,800
You are sitting here looking for
him in such a way or the other.

1407
01:26:08,900 --> 01:26:11,100
The people was it just was it
because they didn't want to

1408
01:26:11,108 --> 01:26:13,400
listen to you and they wanted to
leave.

1409
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:14,500
What isn't that?
The same thing?

1410
01:26:14,500 --> 01:26:18,200
The qz used to do like when
people defected that went behind

1411
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,200
me on the wall, they put other
people in danger.

1412
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:21,900
What did they do in the first
episode?

1413
01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:27,000
They hung them.
So are you about to try to do

1414
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,200
the same thing?
I mean, you basically just told

1415
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,900
your people hey if you see him
or anybody who is with him,

1416
01:26:32,900 --> 01:26:36,200
helping him kill them.
Like you're telling them, shoot

1417
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,700
them on sight.
You're not even going to bring

1418
01:26:37,700 --> 01:26:40,400
them in and say, okay.
Well, why did you do this or

1419
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,200
whatever?
It was that he did, like again,

1420
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,200
I feel like it was personal.
I don't know if this has to do

1421
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,300
with her brother, or if it has
to do with something that's a

1422
01:26:50,300 --> 01:26:54,100
little bit more personal.
But yeah, it's she's totally

1423
01:26:54,500 --> 01:27:00,100
making some questionable
decisions and like you say,

1424
01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:02,200
ethnic feel like they're going
to come and back and bite her in

1425
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:07,700
the ass.
And that I like is episode, but

1426
01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:10,600
we got to think it's going to be
hard to follow Frank and Bill's

1427
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,700
episode.
That is true.

1428
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:17,200
It's true.
And second this episode gave us

1429
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,000
like like a road trip.
Is the building of their

1430
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,300
relationship because we hadn't
had that part yet.

1431
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:27,100
So now we actually can see it.
They're growing it.

1432
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,600
That will get them into other.
Adventures.

1433
01:27:31,700 --> 01:27:35,500
That will be more exciting next
week, but we need this episode

1434
01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:39,500
just to come off of last week
episode which you want to do you

1435
01:27:39,500 --> 01:27:45,700
know crying your bed, right?
If it's have a nice fun you know

1436
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,800
some daddy jokes and see their
relationship grow.

1437
01:27:50,500 --> 01:27:56,300
Yeah, I agree.
So anybody have anything else to

1438
01:27:56,300 --> 01:28:01,800
say about it or The Last of Us?
Shout out to the movie theater

1439
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,900
and had I was showing underworld
and Matchstick Men, which is an

1440
01:28:05,900 --> 01:28:09,100
interesting combination of
movies underworlds.

1441
01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:12,900
Underworld Matchstick Men.
Is this is a movie with Nicolas

1442
01:28:12,900 --> 01:28:17,600
Cage as a con man and he adopts
a little girl and like a little

1443
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,700
girl, but he's like shows her
the ropes.

1444
01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:26,200
Yeah, so those those those two
movies that were on the Marquee,

1445
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:34,000
I am looking forward to, I don't
know.

1446
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,900
I'm I'm I'm kind of I'm kind of
in the middle.

1447
01:28:36,900 --> 01:28:39,600
I thought this was a decent
episode, I don't think.

1448
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:43,200
But like you said I mean episode
3 was kind of up in Ultimate

1449
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,600
that was had a feel of a
penultimate episode.

1450
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,900
So it was destined to kind of
let down the next episode, no

1451
01:28:48,900 --> 01:28:50,100
matter how good it was going to
be.

1452
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:51,900
You're going to experience,
you're going to experience.

1453
01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:55,100
Kind of let down because if it
went it was better.

1454
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:59,300
Like they'll just be impossible
to keep that up through the next

1455
01:28:59,300 --> 01:29:01,500
few episodes that has left in
this season.

1456
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,400
So you kind of expect had to
expect a little bit of a

1457
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:05,600
letdown.
But this was actually a good

1458
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:10,400
episode personally for me
because, you know, I mean, my

1459
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,500
humor is all over it.
I was I was just, I was so

1460
01:29:13,500 --> 01:29:15,900
pleased.
I mean, Ellie Ellie is such a

1461
01:29:15,907 --> 01:29:17,900
smart girl.
Shout out to Bella Ramsey for

1462
01:29:17,900 --> 01:29:19,900
being out.
I knew she was in Game of

1463
01:29:19,900 --> 01:29:22,400
Thrones by didn't put together
that she was from a England, I

1464
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,000
was like, here comes another
someone else from England

1465
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,500
emigrating and taking all
American actor jobs like, good

1466
01:29:27,500 --> 01:29:29,900
God, like all you have to do all
y'all speak.

1467
01:29:29,900 --> 01:29:33,600
Perfect English like, Jesus,
perfect American to, I know,

1468
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,900
you're you're still like, I
don't know where you are in your

1469
01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:47,500
Game of Thrones watch.
You are so far behind and

1470
01:29:47,500 --> 01:29:53,700
because every scene that she is
in, in that show, She steals the

1471
01:29:53,700 --> 01:29:57,500
fucking saying, shit, Bella
Ramsey is amazing.

1472
01:29:58,900 --> 01:30:03,100
And if you want to see her in
something else, that isn't Game

1473
01:30:03,100 --> 01:30:07,700
of Thrones on Netflix, a few
years ago, she did a little

1474
01:30:07,700 --> 01:30:11,000
Series right after that called
the worst, which where it's

1475
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,800
basically like a Harry Potter
Hogwarts type of school for

1476
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,100
witches.
And she's like, the worst witch

1477
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:18,200
that they have and it's
adorable.

1478
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,400
I think it ran for two, maybe
three seasons.

1479
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,900
Oh, okay.
All right, I mean there's some

1480
01:30:24,900 --> 01:30:28,900
other me, any series His Dark
Materials because that's another

1481
01:30:28,900 --> 01:30:30,100
thing I need to get caught up
on.

1482
01:30:30,500 --> 01:30:38,600
Is she in that?
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

1483
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,500
Yeah, but yeah.
But I forgot about that.

1484
01:30:41,500 --> 01:30:45,700
But yeah, yeah, that's another
one of the worst witch and and

1485
01:30:45,700 --> 01:30:48,000
his dark materials.
I need to get caught up on his

1486
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,200
dark materials to but it just
it, of course, you know, we're

1487
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:55,300
Pedro's been and other stuff
will think all the Mandalorian,

1488
01:30:55,500 --> 01:30:57,800
but, which I still haven't
watched yet.

1489
01:30:57,900 --> 01:30:59,800
I know, you know what, I'm not
even going to talk to you.

1490
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,900
I'm not even gonna lie because,
you know, the Third Season

1491
01:31:02,900 --> 01:31:05,000
premiere.
I know I'm ready to start.

1492
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:09,500
I know, I know I saw that.
And, and well, I've been

1493
01:31:09,500 --> 01:31:11,500
mainlining Stargate.
Atlantis, do shoot me.

1494
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,200
I fell in love with Pluto.
So now, like, currently I'm sort

1495
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,400
of watching mainlining Deep,
Space, Nine MacGyver, and dead

1496
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,200
zone.
Yes, I went back to the dead

1497
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,500
zone because it's awesome.
But anyway, that's neither here,

1498
01:31:23,500 --> 01:31:27,800
nor there.
But I, I love this show.

1499
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:32,000
I love what they're doing.
The actress is amazing, the ACT

1500
01:31:32,100 --> 01:31:35,300
ER is amazing and quite
honestly, I'm surprised I'm

1501
01:31:35,300 --> 01:31:37,600
watching.
Eight, infected not calling his

1502
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:41,400
zombie show and I'm actually
watching it weekly versus The

1503
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,600
Walking Dead, which I watched
the pilot and that was it.

1504
01:31:44,900 --> 01:31:49,600
Yeah, I think they did a good
job when they chose Pedro.

1505
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:54,400
For this role they did I'm kind
of looking forward to seeing you

1506
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,300
learning more about Kathryn
because I mean this like some

1507
01:31:57,300 --> 01:32:01,000
stuff like the last step for her
just still doesn't add up.

1508
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,100
So it's like Guess I'm about to
put on algebra.

1509
01:32:04,700 --> 01:32:09,200
You know what, I'm not even.
So, you should say that for

1510
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:12,400
later because I can't, I can't
even like close that close the

1511
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,300
show that got a couple of things
to talk about before we close

1512
01:32:15,300 --> 01:32:19,600
the show.
Just anyway, first name, before

1513
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:24,100
we close out the show, if you
have not seen the clip that is

1514
01:32:24,100 --> 01:32:29,000
going around, Pedro, Pascal
hosted Saturday Night Live this

1515
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,800
past weekend and there is a
clip.

1516
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:39,100
Of him dancing with an affair
with a clip, a sort of funniest

1517
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,700
thing ever.
Go find that clip is all over

1518
01:32:43,700 --> 01:32:47,000
social media, go find it.
The other thing I wanted to

1519
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:51,500
mention is that at the end of
the month, February 24th through

1520
01:32:51,500 --> 01:32:59,500
the 26th, we will be at Atlanta
comic convention, which is a mix

1521
01:32:59,500 --> 01:33:03,600
of two previous, two conventions
that Previously here in Atlanta,

1522
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,100
the fan demick tour, which used
to be a Walking Dead Centric

1523
01:33:08,500 --> 01:33:14,300
convention and then Atlanta
Comic Con, which was a fairly

1524
01:33:14,300 --> 01:33:16,600
newish convention.
I think it had only been here

1525
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:21,000
like maybe five or six years but
those tumors that in the middle

1526
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,400
of last year.
So now they are ATL comic

1527
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,700
convention.
We will be there at the end of

1528
01:33:26,708 --> 01:33:30,700
this month.
Casey, Michelle and myself we

1529
01:33:30,700 --> 01:33:34,000
will be presenting to Two
Walking Dead.

1530
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:38,600
Famed panels.
The first one is it's a Negan

1531
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,200
panel.
We're going to talk about his

1532
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,100
his Redemption, our core his
story and whether or not he

1533
01:33:45,108 --> 01:33:49,400
deserves to have a Redemption
art and just explore that

1534
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,800
character, little bit more
because he is such a polarizing

1535
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:53,900
character.
Like if you talk to people in

1536
01:33:53,900 --> 01:33:57,400
the fandom people, either love
them or they hate him, there

1537
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,500
really isn't much in between.
So I do want to explore that a

1538
01:34:00,500 --> 01:34:03,800
little bit.
These Second panel is going to

1539
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:08,800
be a what if styled panel and
it's exploring the character of

1540
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:12,800
Maggie Greene, you know, she has
been through so much during her

1541
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:16,800
time on The Walking Dead.
And I feel like personally, I

1542
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:20,600
feel like in the last two
seasons season 10 and 11, we

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started to shoot, see a little
bit of a shift with her

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character and I just, if maybe
we are looking at the start of a

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villain origin story with her
character, After we do know that

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she and Negan will have a
spin-off that is airing a little

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bit later this year was supposed
to Premier.

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I think, and it was supposed to
Premiere this month, I think

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next month and I think they
moved it to April or May, so

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we're going to explore those two
characters and then Anthony is

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doing a panel that I will also
be on with him.

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01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,500
Anthony tell us a little bit
about your panel.

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My panel is basically is for And
how is called father and Father

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01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:10,100
Knows, worst, answer exploring,
how fathers have been bad

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01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:13,100
influences?
May be good on some of our

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01:35:13,100 --> 01:35:17,300
favorite fandom characters, like
Nolan from Invincible.

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01:35:21,300 --> 01:35:24,700
Invincible is coming back.
We did get some information that

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we don't have a premiere date
yet but we are getting it in

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01:35:28,100 --> 01:35:30,800
2023.
I can't fucking wait.

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Sorry continue, it's okay.
And one of the more famous

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father's father figures, Bruce
Wayne and the influence he's had

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01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:46,900
on his sons and how they turn
out to.

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Okay?
So yeah, and I'll throw in the

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Winchesters and see how it goes.
Oh yes, let's talk about John.

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01:35:54,700 --> 01:35:56,900
Absolutely.
You can have a lot to say about

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time.
Absolutely.

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Okay.
So yeah so those are the panels.

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And if you're doing books,
Dresden everybody's are McCoy

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01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:08,300
Harry Dresden, grandfather
grandson.

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01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:10,600
That's also a good one too.
Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.
Okay.

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So so information about those
panels are on our social media

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01:36:17,700 --> 01:36:21,100
and I will also include that
information in the show notes

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01:36:21,100 --> 01:36:25,100
for this episode, but that is
taking place February 24th

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01:36:25,100 --> 01:36:30,500
through the 26th at the at the
World Congress Center, you can

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01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:37,000
find information Online at
www.att.com/biz.com.

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01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,500
I will post that link as well.
If you guys are in the Atlanta

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01:36:40,500 --> 01:36:45,200
area that weekend, come see us,
come say, hi come, listen to us

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01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,000
Gap.
Some more about our favorite

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01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:51,300
fandom things and, you know, we
look forward to seeing you.

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01:36:51,300 --> 01:36:54,300
But for right now, that will be
it for our show.

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01:36:54,500 --> 01:36:58,700
You can find us online at
www.haddadhyundai.com, we are on

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01:36:58,700 --> 01:37:01,200
social media on Facebook,
Instagram, and Twitter at

1584
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:05,000
Phantom, And we have a Discord
channel that you can chat with

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01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,200
us on.
We have a YouTube channel that

1586
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,500
you can watch our videos on, and
you can listen to us on all,

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01:37:10,500 --> 01:37:12,400
major podcast streaming
platforms.

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01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,900
Thanks for listening, we hope
you join the conversation next

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time.