Fandom Hybrid Podcast #31 - A Discovery of Witches S1E4

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of The Phantom hybrid podcast.
This is hanako.

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And I'm here with Anthony Mike
and Lori.

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We are here.
Discussing a discovery of

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witches season 1, episode 4 and
this episode.

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They packed a lot in and 40
minutes.

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I think they could have done,
they could have done two

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episodes and and still had a
whole lot of stuff to cover.

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But we're gonna get into it
because there's a lot to go

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over, like I have 44 pages of
notes.

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So let's start from the top
Matthew and Diana.

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They arrived in France.
They go to set tour, which is

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Matthew's ancestral home.
And we finally get to meet

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Matthew's mother, which she's
been referenced in the previous

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episode.
And her name is Isabel de

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Clermont.
And Isabel is not thrilled it

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playing hostess.
Like it's very evident on her

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face.
Matthew gets there.

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He makes very proper
introductions to Diana.

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And to his mother is about turns
around.

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She walks back in the house.
I'm like, oh, this is gonna be a

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tough sell.
So she's not pleased at all.

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We also meet Martin, who is
another vampire, who lives in

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the home, and she appears to be
a housekeeper or companion, or

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someone who's just been part of
the family.

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For a while, her reception to
Diana's a little bit more

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friendly, but still not quite
accepting.

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And they go to Diana's rooms or
they go to Matthews Tower.

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First of all, this do lives in a
castle that's got seven towers.

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And as far as I can tell, it's
only Isabel and Marta that lives

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there.
And now, Matthew, that's a lot

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of space for three people.
No, but, I mean, if Marquez

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Marquez, Vampire.
Then she can clean everything

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really quickly.
So we'll just needed.

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So it doesn't really get that
dirty look like, you know, just

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moving really quick from room to
room and I really feel for Diane

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because like, since Michelle was
white and when I went to go see

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your dad, it was the same thing
like the glare that looking down

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his nose and the sizing up that
stuff to go through.

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And it's like even when she said
when she tried to speak old

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French tour and Diana looked at
Like, like she had no idea what

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she was talking about.
And she said, she didn't even

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speak old French.
She's just a ruse.

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She only speaks English.
And new French.

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And I was just like, damn your
and we see that.

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But yeah, it's kind of like, I
don't think Matthew would have

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gotten the same kind of
reception.

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If he brought up Vamp another
vampire home, you know, I don't

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think it was just the, oh, he
brought a girl home because

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given his age.
I'm sure he's brought a girl or

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two home to Mama.
Or maybe a couple of yeah, he's

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a Playboy.
He's definitely brought at least

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45 amps there.
Know if I don't know if I look

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at Matthew as the Playboy type,
he doesn't seem to come across

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that way.
He seems very old-fashioned in a

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lot of things.
Look at this way.

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He's been alive since 500 BC.
R AG whichever one he chooses

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and he's he's there's bound to
have changed a little bit over

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the centuries and millennia.
That he's been alive.

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He's like, he might have been a
Playboy for 500 years and been

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stable for 500.
Maybe he was gay for 250 and

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like a woman ever to be a woman
for 250.

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You mean?
Yeah, there's a lot of time

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between there where he could
have.

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I mean, I wonder that lots of
different things.

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It's really boring being the
same for thousands upon

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thousands of years.
You the same person for

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thousands of years.
That's boring.

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He had to Changed up somehow.
Oh no.

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Think about Louis from Interview
with the Vampire.

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He was the same Moody.
I mean, I think this dude is

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different though.
He was kind of different.

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He was already kind of messed
up.

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Well, but anyway, so they get to
the home.

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Matthew is giving Diana.
Tour of the home.

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And, you know, he also he kind
of mentions his stepfather

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again, Philippe.
And when Diana asks him about

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Philippe's death, Matthew
mentions to her that he was

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killed during World War Two, but
that's pretty much all he'll say

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about it.
And then he leaves Diana.

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So she can get some rest and
then you see Matthew approaching

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a lot during the house and his
mother appears behind him, you

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know, very specifically saying,
Saying she wants that door

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locked while she is here.
And again, you you feel a little

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bit of the hostility that she
has towards Diana.

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And in this exchange we find out
that the locked doors

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Philippe's, it goes to his
office.

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And Matthew asks for Access so
that he can do some work and we

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find out that Philippe was
killed by witches.

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And this is one of the reasons
why Isabel has such hostility

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towards die.
Anna not that Diana had anything

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to do with it, but it's kind of
one of those things where just

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because she's a witch right now,
as far as Isabel is concerned.

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She's a representative of her
whole species so which is killed

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my husband.
You are which there for you

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pretty much killed my husband.
That's kind of the way she's

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approaching it and Matthew
doesn't like this version of his

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mother.
And he said something about it

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in a conversation, they have
later on, but we'll get to that.

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Diana is having these strange
dreams.

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Again.
She has another spider dream

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where she wakes up, covered in
spider, webs, but the thing

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about this dream is she has a
dream about her mother.

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And in this dream, her mother
standing in the window.

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She's bloody the way that she
looks from the murder scene

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photos and Calling Diana's name
and Diana reaches out to her.

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And of course, she sees the
spider webs and she wakes up and

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she's kind of she's like, in a
Zone.

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She's it's weird.
She comes out of it and she is.

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Naturally startled.
But also I think she's trying to

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figure out like, I don't know if
she's having visions.

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I don't know if something is
trying to warn her about

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something but it's just that's
the second time.

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She's had one of these dreams,
and we don't really have any

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context behind what's causing
the dreams, you know, at first,

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when she had the dream in the
last episode.

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I thought that that was
something that was happening to

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her because of the book.
And now I'm not, so sure.

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Because she's got all this other
stuff going on, you know, the

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witches are kind of after her,
you know, Knox has been doing

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stuff and I don't know.
It's just Diana's got a lot

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going on.
Yeah, I think it's dead.

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I mean, it's definitely I think
the among all the other powers

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that she has, that she has no
idea that she has is probably.

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She probably does have some kind
of link to visions and to peep

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into her.
As where they can warn her about

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things that are coming up and
like, this, freaking spiders was

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always have before this book.
The spiders are maybe a way or

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is somebody someone else
manifesting themselves and

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saying, okay, you need to be
really careful because you got

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cause dangerous coming.
So, and then spiders when they

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weave, their webs, they stay.
They stay in one spot and have

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their legs on all the way, all
the web's to feel when something

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hits their Either is danger of
food so they can figure out

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which way to go.
I think maybe the spider is a

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manifestation of letting her
know which way she needs to go,

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or which way she needs to go or
who sneezed which play, Aarhus

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needs to avoid in order to avoid
danger.

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Now, question, when she, when
she had that dream in the last

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episode.
Am I correct in remembering that

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immediately after she had that
dream.

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She got, she got a call from
her.

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It's because that happened in
this episode, and I was trying

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to remember.
Yes.

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Yes.
Yes.

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Okay.
She was doing the same thing and

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looking for looking looking for
something and she got snapped

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out of it somehow.
Okay, because I like, I remember

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Emily saying something about,
she was also having weird

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Visions about about Diana, and
then immediately after Diana

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snaps out of this dream, her
phone starts ringing.

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And it's her aunts.
Yes, and they're calling her

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because they said something
about your, your phone.

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Your ring tone has changed or
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So, I guess, because Diana went
from England to France, maybe

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something about the way the way
the calls.

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Go through sounds different.
I noticed that when I call like,

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if I call someone that's
somewhere else, the ring, you

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know, just the dial tone, sounds
a little different.

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So I don't know if that's,
that's what happened with them.

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It gives you like that.
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The rain kind of let you out of
the country or so, of course,

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they're like, where are you?
Why is your ringtone different

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with?
Like I said it last episode.

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Sarah is like the over
protective worrywart.

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Aunt, she's the one that's going
to be calling.

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Like, what are you doing?
What are you wearing?

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Where are you going?
What are you eating?

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She's big, you know, she seems
to be that worrisome.

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But of course with Diana you
kind of have to be with

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everything that's going on.
And so Diana, basically tells

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the Them.
Yeah.

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I am not there.
I had to leave Oxford because

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Peter knocks threaten me, which
doesn't surprise Emily and

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Sarah, because they're like,
yeah, he kind of harassed your

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parents too.
But then when she tells them

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where she is and who she's with,
they don't even get concerned

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about the fact that she's with
Matthew.

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They're like, Is about the
Clermont.

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You need to get the hell out
right now.

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She is a witch killer.
She has a reputation.

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She has.
She has decimated coven's for

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decades, like completely wiped
out covens in South America.

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They don't say why they don't
say how they know.

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But they're basically giving her
this morning.

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I was like, oh, this just got
really interesting.

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You've got a witch killer with a
witch in the house.

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Hmm.
Yeah, but we found out later

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where her reasons are.
Oh, yeah, that's true.

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But at this point, we didn't
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So I was just kind of like,
gonna be interesting.

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Well, I had hoped at the time
watching it, I had hopes for her

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because she didn't kill her on
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Like, see, you didn't Slaughter
her right there.

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She just gave her the meanness.
You look, well, you know, I

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think they probably would have
caused some problems with her

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son.
Has she done that?

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You know, I mean, regardless of
how she About Diana.

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That is still someone her son
brought home.

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So I guess she figured.
Okay, if Matthew brought her

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here knowing because I'm pretty
sure Matthew knows his mother

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does not like witches especially
given the fact that which is

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killed his stepfather.
So, you really think, did you

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say she's under my protection or
something to that effect.

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He did say something about that.
Later on not at first but I I

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think at this point, I think
Matthew has to be a good judge

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of character, you know, to have
lived as long as he has lived.

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You can't do that by being
naive.

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And by trusting, everybody, he
has to be a good judge of

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character.
And I would think that for him

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to bring this, which home to his
mother, who he knows has an

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extreme hate of witches.
She also had to sing.

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He must have had a good reason,
you know, she didn't know.

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The reason was yet, she kind of
figured as far as him being

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attracted to her.
But I think she kind of maybe

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was sitting back to see how this
was going to unfold.

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Like.
Okay.

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So what are we walking into
here?

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What's going on?
You know, she just kind of

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wanted to get some more
information, but you did have

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Mart of kind of, since her Aura
is that she said, she smelled

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the power.
She could smell the power on

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Diana and it's me.
I'd like sweet grass and like a

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camera.
What'd she say after that?

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She said she smells sweet and
green like what she said, like

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spring.
But I I get the feeling that

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that Marta.
Might be a little bit more than

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a vampire because they
specifically asked her about

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Diana's magic.
And I understand that the

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vampires can smell magic, but it
seems like she might have a

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particular talent because they
kept looking at her ass.

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Will did you see this?
What do you think of this or am

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I imagining that know?
Because my the way she did it

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made me think so, she is a bow.
She was probably Isabel's

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tracker to help her.
You found the vampire that has

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this uncanny ability to sense,
which is a power.

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Then yeah, it's suppose going to
need that to decimate.

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All those covenants that would
make.

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So yeah.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense

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because Yeah, because because
when they, Matthew and Diana are

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going horseback, riding and
Isabel Marta are kind of looking

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at them from on high and Isabel
asked her.

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She was like well and Martin
says I have not smelt such power

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in centuries and I was like, oh
that's that's an interesting.

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You know, it wasn't necessarily
about her blood like she smelled

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her power.
You know, she's a Tracker.

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That's what this that's what she
is.

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Actually does make a lot of
sense.

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But oh that's so we got it.
We got to go back to Oxford for

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a minute because I have to talk
about how to talk about vampire

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Bay.
And I know she's crazy.

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I know she's crazy.
But Juliette like that woman is

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so fucking gorgeous.
Anyway, so we go back to Oxford.

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Marcus is on the phone with
Miriam and they're talking about

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the fact that Matthew and Diana
had made it safely.

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The France they're having like
some little small talk about the

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fact that oh, yeah, you know, It
I'm kind of you know, I'm kind

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of worried about how Isabel's
going to take that bottle.

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You know, they just have a like
a little small talk and Marcus.

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He's approaching Matthews room
probably to go, make sure that

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he has everything.
Make sure it's locked up.

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I don't know, but he's
approaching Matthews room and

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something kind of like makes the
hairs on the back of his neck

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stand up.
Like he knows that something is

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not right with in the room and
he kind of goes silent on the

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phone and Miriam is on the
phone.

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Like, Marcus is everything.
Okay, is everything?

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Everything.
Okay.

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He's not answering because he
knows that something is wrong.

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So he walks into the room and
there's Juliet.

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And let me tell you this girl,
like you know how we said when

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we were talking about cursed,
how sister iris is going to be a

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problem.
This Juliet girl is going to be

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a problem.
And she's going to be a problem

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solely for the fact that she's a
woman scorned, like her whole

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attitude, her whole demeanor.
When Marcus found her, she was

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like, where's matthew, does he
miss me?

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Is he with that?
Which like she's automatically

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like jealous girlfriend.
She's ready to scratch.

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Somebody's eyes out.
I mean, if she starts out and

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she's looking like this, really
sweet girl.

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She's really beautiful.
Where's where's matthew at?

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You see what?
They've all of a sudden you see

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her?
Start changing.

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It was like, oh my God, this
bitch is crazy.

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Right?
And she's like this, he missed

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me.
And Marcus is like He left you

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remember, he, he's not thinking
about you.

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He's moved on.
That's what it wasn't.

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And she was like, oh is he with
that witch and they get into a

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tussle, and they get ready to
start fighting at all of a

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sudden.
Whoosh?

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I was like, what Miriam shows up
out of nowhere?

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And they're promising for those.
You see was still on the phone

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soon, as bad as soon as she
heard GSA.

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And she was like, man and there.
I thought we were back in a

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hurry cat fight of the century.
But yeah, Miriam came in and

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shut that down real quick, you
know, Juliet kind of collected

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herself.
And she was like, tell Matthew,

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I rang and she gets ready to
walk out the door.

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Miriam says, what did she said?
She says, you know, eternity is

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a long time to chase after a
man.

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That doesn't want you.
I was like, oh, these two don't

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like each other at all.
First of all, first of all

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Juliet, didn't want.
None of Miriam, Sean Daly.

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Well, you know down, like you
know, and it's so funny because

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I was like, I don't know if
Marcus, if she got the upper

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hand on Marcus because Marcus is
one of those where he's not

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going to hit a female or
whatever, but she looked like

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she was about to tell Marcus's
ass up.

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And Miriam walks in.
And Shiva says, it's much.

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You know, she says something to
the fact of, oh, yeah, just as

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usual, always needed.
Someone else to fight your

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battles or something like that.
So obviously, this is not the

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first time Miriam has come to
Marcus's.

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Well, Marcus is not a fighter.
He's not a fighter.

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He is not a fact.
You can look at me.

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Look like she can scrap, Julie.
You're gonna rip his head off.

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That's crazy.
Of course, you can strap strap.

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It's new fight better than most
other people because she doesn't

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have she doesn't have a
conscience or, but, or something

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in her, that tells her to stop
hitting people.

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So, if she starts to get people,
you saw her.

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She was with the guy that his
name XU.

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It's like she just went and goes
on Instinct.

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So that's dangerous as hell,
especially if you're in that.

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So crazy and out of your mind
first.

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She wanted a baby brother is
getting his ass kicking.

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You got to go save him.
I'm sure that's not the first

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time.
I mean, come on.

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I wonder if her character would
be that crazy if Chabert hadn't

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made her that way.
Because like, very specifically,

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she says that he taught her to
Crave Matthew and then he

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basically set her free after he
had her kind of locked away for

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a little bit.
He set her free so that she

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could go find Matthew.
So it's kind of Like what should

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be that crazy?
It's like I don't even know what

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kind of conditioning he did to
make her that way about Massey.

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And then of course, her and
Matthew actually had some kind

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of relationship.
We saw that in her flashbacks.

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So I don't know if that just
Amplified whatever feelings she

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had for him.
But I just kind of Wonder like,

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what was she before because
again, Matthew Matthew seems to,

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I don't know.
He seems to have a type or Or I

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should say he doesn't seem to.
He doesn't seem to me like the

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type who would purposefully go
after someone who was nuts.

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So she had to have been no a
different type of person, you

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know, or been able to come up.
I would he comes across as the

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type of person that would want
to help someone.

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So if a person you, I don't want
these were broken, but if

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there's something person needs
help or someone needs, I think

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he seems like you'd be the first
person that would want to help

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him as a vampire.
That doesn't seem to be a

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vampire thing to do, you know,
to be sort of selfless.

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Yeah, because I'm trying to look
at that.

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The last episode you you talk to
me.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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And and the other, if just kind
of follows where vampires are,

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usually something like that
amplifies who they are already,

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so it's possible.
Possible that she was a little

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different talking about Juliet.
She could have had a little bit

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of OCD or a little bit of
dependent personality.

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She could have a little bit of
that.

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And becoming a vampire, just
amplifies that is Roberto would

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be able to totally manipulate a
person like that.

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It's becoming with you needed
them to be.

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So I'm not saying she was
completely crazy, but she

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probably had she probably was
already.

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That kind of a person have that
type of Personality that to be

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able to support because V thing.
Yeah, because they thing he

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would have, he could have done
it to anybody.

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But no, he had this specific
person.

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She was perfect for what he
needed to do.

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That was gonna be a handful but
she didn't want.

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None of Miriam.
I want her back story, right?

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Like I do.
I really want to know, like, I

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hope that we do get that.
I don't think we get that this

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season but maybe next season
will find out more about Matthew

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and Marcus and Miriam and like
how he found them and how they

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became a part of his family.
But yeah.

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No, she didn't want none of
Miriam.

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Miriam came in like Ready to
scrap that Miss was fun.

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Like I had to rewind because it
happened so fast.

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She got in there so fast and I
was like, wait, what did I miss?

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Like did I blink that?
I looked out what happened?

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It was so fast.
And yeah Juliet just kind of

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like straighten up.
And she was just like, okay.

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Well tell Matthew I came by.
Let me get the hell.

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All right.
Now, this ain't what I want.

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But okay, let's go to the
congregation.

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Because this is.
So this congregation thing, we

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find out a lot.
And so the congregation is the

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session Peter Knox has
apparently called for an

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emergency meeting.
So we get the demon

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Representatives coming in as nox
and satu are having a

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conversation.
And we find out that Nats

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mother, who we met in the last
episode.

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She is actually the leader of
the demons and I'm going to go

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to this little Conversation.
Because in the grand scheme is,

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it kind of doesn't seem like it
would be important.

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But given something that
happened with situ in the last

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episode.
I thought, you know, that's

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something really specific to put
in the conversation and in the

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show.
So, Peter goes over.

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He introduces situ to Agatha and
he makes a comment.

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You know, he tells Agatha.
Yes, that's who is our new,

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which representative on the
congregation and Agatha.

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Has very pleased, you know,
because it's another woman and

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Peter says, yeah, Agatha has
been on to us about adding more

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women to the congregation.
But, you know, our vampire

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colleagues, take offense, take
exception to that.

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And settu asks, why and Agatha
makes a remark that all of the

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vampire Representatives over the
past.

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Nine hundred years, have all
been white males and, you know,

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set to has like this brief look
on her face.

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And like I said, in the last, S
episode.

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She made a comment to Rico when
he talked about the

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responsibility of administration
of the congregation passing on

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to all of the Elder male members
in his family like is a very

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male-dominated organization.
And I don't know, I was thinking

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about the fact that Anthony you
were saying that you feel like

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even though situ is working with
Knox.

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Now you feel like she's going to
be one of those characters that

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turns and for some reason I feel
like this whole male dominance

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thing is going to be the thing
that turns her, you know and

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having that conversation there
just kind of Out there in the

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open like that.
I was like, oh y'all are

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dropping this one of those
little hints again, like like

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this conversation is going to be
very important and in a later

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episode.
I just feel it.

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But then of course, it just
seems like in the future at some

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point said to is going to have
to make a choice.

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It may not be soon.
But at some point in the future

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she's going to have to decide
which side.

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Is she going to be on?
And it may come down to To the

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broader picture which is taken
down the patriarchy that of this

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organization that maybe when it
comes to.

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Because remember she said her
mother taught her, you know,

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everything she knew, you know,
and and it's going to be a thing

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where way it's witches are not
all men.

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So why is it always just making
on the congregation?

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Right?
Right, because I think it was

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sad to and Agatha.
I think they're the only two

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women on the Congregation.
Yeah, that was.

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So, of course, they're having
this conversation in after

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Agatha makes that remark, Here
Comes vampire, who seems to be

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very irritated by, by that
remark.

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He's like, are you done Agatha?
And I'm like, oh, white male

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vampire, you know, and it
happens to be the vampire

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Baldwin that we talked about
earlier.

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We were trying to figure out who
this person was, because this is

452
00:26:58,108 --> 00:27:00,400
the person who's your bear was
like, I don't want him in my

453
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,700
business.
And Baldwin walks into the

454
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,500
building with Javert and
Domenico and its size.

455
00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:13,100
So, these are the three vampire
representatives and they go into

456
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:16,100
the chamber and they meet in
this session.

457
00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:20,700
And like I said, Peter Knox is
the one who called the session

458
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:26,200
and he's there on behalf of the
witches to request assistance

459
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,700
from the congregation because he
says that congregation rules

460
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:34,100
have been broken because Matthew
has abducted a witch and it is

461
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:38,500
at this point that we find out
that Baldwin is Matthews older,

462
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:42,200
brother.
The plot thickens.

463
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,600
So not only is Matthews brother,
the head of the congregation.

464
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:52,200
You're rich representative, just
accused your brother of

465
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,500
kidnapping a witch in front of
the whole congregation.

466
00:27:56,700 --> 00:28:01,700
Just basically I feel like I
feel like that was kind of a

467
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:06,500
challenge to Baldwin.
You know, it maybe not directly

468
00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:09,000
but it was one of those.
Yeah, you're in charging.

469
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,600
You can't even keep, you know,
you can't even keep tabs on your

470
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,000
brother.
You can't keep control of your

471
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,100
brother.
He's the one of our witches, you

472
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:20,500
know, and it is very sneaky.
Very, very sneaky.

473
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:27,300
Is this?
Just like, come on man?

474
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:32,500
Like he said she was abducted
and he is like the way he did

475
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:36,800
it.
It's like you can see how likes

476
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,600
a to was just like.
Wait, huh?

477
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,100
You got you and you would think
that he would do that.

478
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:45,100
He would have got, put the story
got the bond over this morning

479
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:47,000
with her.
So she doesn't look like

480
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,300
surprised when he says something
like that musicians.

481
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:53,900
Like but that's not the only
thing she was surprised about

482
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:58,800
because As they're doing all of
this, you know, Knox is giving

483
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,600
them.
He's given them.

484
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,800
Quote, unquote evidence of
Matthew stocking, Diana and he

485
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,200
sending this through, through
their cell phones through text

486
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,300
message.
So, I'm assuming that while they

487
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:14,200
were together at the library or
the times that they've, you

488
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,300
know, been together.
Knox has probably been, you

489
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:20,000
know, like sneakily snapping
pictures or whatever probably

490
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:24,400
taking pictures.
I don't know if she's got that

491
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,300
much Goods.
Like, I don't think anyone would

492
00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:31,700
never underestimate wanting to
impress people.

493
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:34,900
The need to impress people and
wanting and upward and the

494
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:39,100
potential for Upward Mobility.
Never Never Scared to do

495
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:42,100
something like that.
But if it, but if it made her

496
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:45,100
look good, and knocks his eyes
and potentially made her move up

497
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:49,000
in the world of witches.
She can swallow that and B, and

498
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,700
not in just be all sketchy
around her around Diana.

499
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:55,800
While she's not, there you sell,
she's all in her business

500
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,800
anyway, so it's like, you know,
what, how far is that from

501
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:02,400
following kind of being behind
her and taking pictures of your

502
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,100
cell phone and sending them to
Knox?

503
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,100
Look what she's doing.
Now.

504
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,100
Look what she's doing.
Now.

505
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,800
Look what she's doing now.
I mean, she's a snitch.

506
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,100
She says that she's been proven
to be a snitch.

507
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:14,200
So, I mean, that's the one thing
that she's good at your mean.

508
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,000
She's damn sure not good at
picking wigs.

509
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000
She's good at snitching.
That's her thing.

510
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Like is going to talk about this
bad wig the whole city.

511
00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:26,000
Bowl.
I don't think that's my point.

512
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,300
I don't think Gillian is the
type.

513
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:33,100
She doesn't seem to me like the
type of person who's looking to

514
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:36,200
get ahead or looking to move up
in the ranks.

515
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:41,600
I think as Despicable as her
character is to me, I think she

516
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,900
really just thinks that she is
doing.

517
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:51,300
What's good for the coven.
I think she really thinks that

518
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:54,500
she's trying to protect.
And she thinks she's trying to

519
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:58,700
protect Diana as well because of
the way they have their

520
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:02,900
prejudices against the vampires.
She thinks she's looking out for

521
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:05,300
Diana.
She thinks that because Dianna

522
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:11,400
is not familiar with the way
that their world works because

523
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,200
she has done everything in her
power to cut herself off from

524
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,100
that world.
She doesn't know about the

525
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,600
dynamic.
She doesn't know about the rules

526
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,100
and I think Jillian probably
looks at Diana as a little bit

527
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:27,700
naive and she really thinks
she's protecting her, but she

528
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:31,900
doesn't realize that her actions
are actually making things worse

529
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,600
for Diana, you know, so I think
I think she started out with

530
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,700
good intentions and now it's
just gone to the point where

531
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:45,000
because knox's and is involved
and Knots knows that she and

532
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,900
Diana are acquaintances.
If not friends.

533
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,700
He's using that to his advantage
and of course not to be.

534
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:56,900
And the kind of overbearing
overpowering person that she is.

535
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,000
Somebody like, Jillian, doesn't
know how to stand up to him and

536
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,900
she doesn't know how to say no.
So, I really think she's kind of

537
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:06,600
stuck between a rock, and a hard
place right now.

538
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,000
Doesn't mean I excused her and
doesn't mean that I like her

539
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,900
character, but she does seem to
be kind of in an impossible

540
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:17,400
situation right now.
I don't think she's doing it for

541
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,400
any kind of game for herself.
That's, that's not the vibe.

542
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,700
I get from her character.
I think I still, I still think

543
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:28,600
she's doing it to look to look
good in their eyes, because she

544
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,700
doesn't have that much
self-esteem.

545
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:34,900
So she's doing something so that
she can feel like she's part of

546
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:36,300
it.
I don't think she feels like,

547
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:39,700
she's really part of cut part of
a coven because she's just kind

548
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:42,300
of on.
She's always trying to impress.

549
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:46,400
He always trying to let you see
higher up sheet raw, always

550
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,900
trying to make them notice her.
And that's desperate thing and

551
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:57,000
I'm like in that just turns her
into a snitch and it's just I

552
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,200
mean, that's just that's just
kind of how I see it though.

553
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:05,900
Can we discuss what I talked
about last episode knocks making

554
00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:11,700
this miscalculation by looking
desperate because he really just

555
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:15,700
wants someone else to turn the
witch over to him because he

556
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:19,000
can't get her himself.
Oh, I'm so I'm about to get to

557
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,200
that.
Because like I said, I was going

558
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,000
to get your foreman and yeah,
okay.

559
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:30,000
Because he so he's giving them
all of this evidence, you know.

560
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,200
Trying to show them that Matthew
has, you know, abducted Diana.

561
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:40,300
And at this time, there's like a
small break because Baldwin is

562
00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:42,500
trying to figure out where his
brother is.

563
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:46,000
Like, once once knocks pretty
much out at Matthew as the

564
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,500
kidnapper.
He's like, yeah.

565
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:50,000
We need to bring a man, we need
to Punish him.

566
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:52,800
And of course, while this is
going on Dominica, as your are

567
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,400
exchanging, looks like, oh, we
gotta, we gotta, you know, so,

568
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,700
Baldwin calls.
Matthew doesn't get an answer.

569
00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:07,000
So he calls Marcus and he's
basically questioning Marcus.

570
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,300
Where's matthew?
Did he abduct the?

571
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,400
Which, what's going on?
And Marcus is trying to, like,

572
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:14,900
protect Matthews?
Trying not to say much.

573
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:17,500
It was like, well, why don't you
call Matthew yourself?

574
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,300
And he's like, he's not
answering.

575
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,000
His fall.
He was like, I understand,

576
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,199
that's your father, and you're
protecting him, but I'm the head

577
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,100
of this house.
You know, I'm the head of this

578
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:28,500
family.
So you need to tell me where he

579
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:30,000
is.
And, of course, apparently

580
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,100
Marcus.
I don't know if it's the thing

581
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:37,000
about, I don't know if if
Baldwin compels him to tell him

582
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,500
or if it's because of the fact
that Baldwin is the head of the

583
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:47,199
family that Marcus is obligated
to do what he says, but when

584
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,600
they come back to this chamber
and Peter's, you know, giving

585
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,199
them the information, or yet.
Here's my evidence blahblahblah

586
00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:57,600
and, you know, he tells bought
when he says, your father, is

587
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,400
the one who created the
congregation and he created the

588
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,500
rules, you know, with the
purpose of keeping the humans

589
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:07,000
from finding out about us and to
keep peace amongst the species.

590
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,200
And so they start bickering,
back and forth Chabert says that

591
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,100
Matthew needs to be held
accountable Agatha's.

592
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,600
Like, why would Matthew do
something like this?

593
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,300
Like this, got to be a good
reason?

594
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:20,400
Why would he take this?
Of risk.

595
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,600
And then bought when comments
that well, Diana comes from a

596
00:35:24,607 --> 00:35:27,100
distinguished lineage, the
Bishops.

597
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:31,700
And, you know, he wants to know
if she's powerful and satu

598
00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:35,800
answers before knots can answer.
And you can see noxious thrown

599
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,800
off by this because satu says,
no, she's not powerful.

600
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,700
She was tested as a child and if
she had powers they would have

601
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:49,100
manifested before then knocks
looks kind of surprised by this

602
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:51,800
because Cuz he doesn't realize
that's a to has been in the

603
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,600
archives and has been
researching Diana Bishop.

604
00:35:55,700 --> 00:36:02,700
So this is news to him and then
Baldwin says, well she has to be

605
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:06,400
powerful because she's the only
creature who's ever conjured or

606
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,800
who's ever been able to summon
the book of life, but Knox

607
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,800
didn't tell us this like he
usually stuff out and knocks and

608
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,700
sitting there like he's got egg
on his face because not only has

609
00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:20,900
situ giving up information that
I never meant for them to know

610
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:24,700
but now Baldwin also has
information that he didn't

611
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:27,800
intend for the congregation to
know.

612
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,300
He literally said this to satu
right before the demon

613
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:34,400
Representatives walked in he was
like, I'm not going to tell them

614
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,200
about the book.
We need to get them on our side

615
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,200
first.
So now everything that he's been

616
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,900
trying to plot, his just been
blown out in and did not tell

617
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:47,800
you he had to he was going to
blow this up, last up.

618
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,900
He was gonna blow it up because
Was he too stupid to realize if

619
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:56,900
you tell them about her
Matthews, going to have to tell

620
00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:00,300
them that she was able to get
the book of life and that's

621
00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:02,500
going to change the dynamic of
everything.

622
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:07,000
But you know, if he kept it to
himself he could at least try to

623
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,800
figure out a way you do it.
Maybe get you know dominicano or

624
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,700
jubair on the side, but if you
tell the congregation and

625
00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:16,500
everybody knows about it and
their changes the game.

626
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,500
Yep.
Yeah.

627
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,900
This is him.
Not thinking, you know, big

628
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:25,200
picture long-term be thinking
immediately.

629
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,900
I need her right now so I can
get the book right now.

630
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:32,500
And now do everybody know and as
I was here, right because

631
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:35,100
Baldwin has basically said,
okay.

632
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:38,500
Well I find out where they are.
Matthew has her at the family

633
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:43,000
home there in France.
So now the congregation is going

634
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,500
to send a representative to go
and retrieve them and you know,

635
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:47,900
of course they're bigger and
because once they find out that

636
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:50,600
knocks knew this information,
That had it planned on sharing

637
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,700
it.
Oh, the vampires appears.

638
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,400
The demons are pissed.
They're like this book belongs

639
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,800
to all of us and you were trying
to keep it for yourself.

640
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,000
You know, you're trying to
you're trying to one-up us and

641
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,100
of course like you said, it
doesn't work and knocks his

642
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:06,800
favor because not everybody's
looking at him.

643
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,900
You like you lying mofos you.
Yeah.

644
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,200
I thought Advocates was going to
throw out that.

645
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,200
Here we go.
Again.

646
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,700
These white men patriarchy all
over again.

647
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,400
That's what she wanted to do.
But oh, you buried the lead

648
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,000
though.
I decide know how powerful is

649
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,500
it?
The Claremont family there.

650
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:33,900
Philippe was the one that
created the congregation, right?

651
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:36,000
Right.
Dad.

652
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,100
That would be the key to the
Claremont and being as powerful

653
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:44,500
as they are.
So, but that's probably also to

654
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:49,700
why Matthew has a little bit of
a disregard for the rules.

655
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:58,600
He's like, it's like, it's like,
Baldwin is the dutiful older and

656
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,100
we can only assume that he is
the older son, because he's the

657
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:04,100
one that's in charge of the
congregation now, but it's like,

658
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:07,500
Baldwin is the dutiful older
son.

659
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,500
The, one who follows the rules,
the one who has, you know, who

660
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:16,600
does All the scheming and
conniving and all of this stuff

661
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,000
to keep everything under
control.

662
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:21,800
And Matthew is like the rebel
little brother.

663
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,500
The one who's like yeah,
whatever screw your rules, you

664
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:28,700
know, not necessarily he's not
that blatant about it.

665
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:33,300
But I mean obviously there is a
rule about commingling between

666
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:39,800
species and he is breaking it in
a huge way in a very public way.

667
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,000
So yeah, Matthews like The rebel
child, you know?

668
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,200
And, you know, the way that
Juliet feared Miriam, I want to

669
00:39:49,207 --> 00:39:53,400
save a sphere matthewson just as
much.

670
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,900
It's almost, as if I don't want
to say what he was like, I was

671
00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:59,600
like just before the Kraang
gatien.

672
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:01,500
Like, I predate the
congregation.

673
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,300
So the rules.
Don't apply to me.

674
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:07,900
Right, right, my father created
the kind decent.

675
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,500
I have nothing to do with that.
So the rules of the progeny, I'm

676
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:13,400
not a part of it.
So Doc, you do whatever you want

677
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,100
to do, but I'm gonna do what I
want to do and you can try and

678
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:19,200
stop me and, you know, his
parents and I are going to do

679
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,700
anything about them because
their son but like anyone else

680
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:25,200
like jubeir.
He hasn't tried to get someone

681
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,700
else to sneak in and get them.
Yeah, diesel use a woman to

682
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:32,800
soften them up.
Like see, I know how to get,

683
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,000
I'll get through his heart, but
that didn't work either.

684
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:40,400
So now every not everybody knows
they're going to like

685
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,900
everybody's like kind of
breaking off.

686
00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:44,000
Like, okay.
This is what we need to do.

687
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,000
Like we'd like the like
jerr-bear and to bear gets

688
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,600
together with with with on.
What's his name.

689
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:56,100
Remember Carly?
Yeah, and then then headed the

690
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,800
demons calls her son.
It wants to talk to Sophie and

691
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,000
try to get her and try to get
her opinion on every all on the

692
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:06,300
Diana on Diana.
And then after she tells it that

693
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:08,500
Sophie wants to go see her.
And I'm like, that's not a good

694
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:11,400
idea at all.
Yeah, I can't see that ending

695
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,700
well at all, but it's like, now,
everybody's getting plans to try

696
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:19,100
to figure out how to get the
book like they're trying to

697
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,200
figure out.
If she can see it.

698
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,900
You can get it that we can get
it from her.

699
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:25,600
So Now, Diana's, in even bigger
and even bigger mess than

700
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,600
before, like she has, Everybody
after.

701
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,300
But let's go back to Matthew and
Diana for little bit there at we

702
00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:36,300
don't come back to the
congregation, but we got to go

703
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:38,700
back to Matthew and Diana for a
little bit because there's some

704
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:43,000
interesting things happening
there at Center.

705
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:49,200
So while Diana is resting,
Matthew is doing his quote,

706
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,300
unquote work in Philippe's
office and what he's actually

707
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:58,600
doing is, he's analyzing the
photos from His parents murder

708
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:03,600
and as he's analyzing the photo,
he's looking at some of the

709
00:42:03,607 --> 00:42:10,100
debris that's in the photos and
he's noticing like, I guess some

710
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:13,000
of the things don't look and
play.

711
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,900
So they look out of place or
something about them, disturb

712
00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:18,200
some.
So he does a deeper analysis of

713
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,600
the photos and what he finds is
a chalk line or which is line,

714
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,200
which seems to indicate that
Diana's parents. were murdered

715
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:33,500
by witches and not by, you know,
the town's folk or whatever the

716
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:42,600
story was back then, when, when
they were found, so, He tells

717
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,100
her this after the, he's giving
her a tour de.

718
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:49,100
They approached Phillip Phillips
office.

719
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:52,700
And you know, she kind of tells
him the information that her

720
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:58,500
aunt had told her about Isabel
and you know, she basically

721
00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,700
tells him that she's going to
make up her own mind about what

722
00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:04,800
to think about his mother, you
know, she's not going to just

723
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,800
take the word of her aunts or
anybody.

724
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,100
She's like, okay.
I do know that vampires used to

725
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:14,300
work with the Seas, and you
know, that which is played a

726
00:43:14,308 --> 00:43:17,200
part of Philippe's death, but
I'm not going to come to any

727
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,400
conclusions based on that
information.

728
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:24,100
I'm going to make my own
decisions and, you know,

729
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,000
Matthew.
Tells her about her parents

730
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,300
because she thinks that she
needs to go home.

731
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:33,600
She thinks that she needs to be
away from their.

732
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,000
She thinks she needs to go back
and be with her aunts, because

733
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,600
she thinks her aunts can protect
her.

734
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,800
And she doesn't want Matthew to
feel obligated.

735
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,700
And she also doesn't want to
come between him and his mother.

736
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:46,400
And like she said, she knows
that his mother doesn't really

737
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,300
want her there.
And she understands why.

738
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,700
But, you know, she's like, I
they can protect me and Madison

739
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:55,300
County.
I can go back to New York and

740
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:57,800
they can protect me here.
No, you need to Unique, stay

741
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,400
away from the witches too.
And she's like, what?

742
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,400
He's like is not just about
Peter Knox.

743
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,700
And then, he tells her about her
parents and the fact that which

744
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:10,400
has killed her parents.
And of course, she doesn't know

745
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,600
how to take this.
She kind of goes off and she's

746
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:18,000
like, in a day is for a little
bit, but, um, Afterwards,

747
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,500
Matthew and Isabel.
They have a conversation because

748
00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:26,400
it's bows in Philippe's office,
and she sees the pictures, and

749
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,500
she also correctly to doose's
what it means.

750
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,300
And she asked Matthew, whether
or not he's told Diana, he tells

751
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:39,600
her that he has and he also
tells is about, he was, you

752
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,700
know, she's like and how did she
take?

753
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:43,800
He was like, what she didn't
fall apart, if that's what you

754
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,300
want.
You know, that's what you were

755
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:50,000
asking, and You know, he I don't
think he's trying to be cruel to

756
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,400
his mother but he says to her,
one of the things that Drew him

757
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,600
to Diana was the fact that she
was Brave and that bravery

758
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:05,300
reminded him of Isabel and he's
like, you used to be so

759
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:09,500
open-minded at 11 point in time.
Why can't you be that way now?

760
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:16,700
And he walks out and it's like
Isabel is very hard and you I

761
00:45:16,707 --> 00:45:19,100
can tell, but it's like after
this conversation.

762
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:21,100
She seems to soften up a little
bit.

763
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:25,100
Like, I don't know if it's
something about Matthew, like,

764
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:30,200
Matthew seems to be able to
penetrate that wall with the

765
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,400
women in this show.
I don't know what it is.

766
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,900
But even with his mother, she's
kind of like, hmm.

767
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:43,600
Okay, maybe I need to rethink
this, you know, but well, if you

768
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:49,500
think about it, he he knows he
knows her and if Philippe was

769
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:54,400
killed in World War 2 or
whatever, her and sleep had to

770
00:45:54,408 --> 00:45:59,900
have been together for thousands
of years and to lose him in that

771
00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:04,100
way, probably devastated her,
which is why she devastated all

772
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:08,000
those cousins, but that's really
just a recent thing in the

773
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,700
Vampire Life.
And he basically is saying you

774
00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:14,600
were, you weren't always like
this, like most of your life.

775
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,400
You were Brave sweet woman who's
just like this moment.

776
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,000
Live with now.
And you're not that same person

777
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,500
where I wish you would go back
to being that way and then

778
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:26,800
probably made her think about
it.

779
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,300
Like you know what, he's
probably right?

780
00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:32,900
He's probably the only person
and talks to her in the way that

781
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:34,900
she needs to be talked to.
Yeah.

782
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:38,100
I mean he he doesn't have
respect for way.

783
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:42,200
It's like he's not he's not
we're not being mean or

784
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,500
anything, right?
He doesn't raise his voice.

785
00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:49,500
Like he says it in a very loving
way, but even so The way he said

786
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:52,500
it like I felt cut because it
was kind of like, one of those

787
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:55,100
things like, oh, this is one of
the things that I love about

788
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:56,800
you.
Why aren't you this person

789
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,200
anymore?
You know, and I think also to

790
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,600
just her knowing that even
though Diana is a witch.

791
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,100
She's also been betrayed by her
own kind.

792
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:11,200
If in fact, they killed her
parents, so it's kind of like,

793
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:15,700
You, you really don't have a
choice but to look at this

794
00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:19,600
person or to change the way that
you think about this person that

795
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,700
you looked at as an enemy.
I mean, even if she's not your

796
00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:28,300
friend, now, you can't you can't
have anything but some empathy

797
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:31,800
for her because she's also
suffered loss.

798
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,300
The same way that you suffer
loss, you know, and even more.

799
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:40,600
So because this was her, these
were her parents and she was a

800
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,700
child when this I've been, you
know, so it's kind of like you

801
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:49,100
can't really blame her for what
all these other witches did

802
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:51,900
especially considering they did
the same thing to her.

803
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:55,900
And I think that just kind of
Maybe started the gears turning

804
00:47:55,900 --> 00:48:00,400
in her head.
Like, okay, maybe I need to look

805
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,100
at this, a little differently,
you know, or maybe I need to not

806
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:09,400
be as hostile towards her, and I
mean, even Diana approaches her

807
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:14,200
a little bit after that, and
they have a Conversation and she

808
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,200
asked Isabel about Philippe's
death and Isabel gets defensive.

809
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,700
She's like how dare you ask me
that and you know, she points

810
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:25,000
out there's about.
She's like look, there's good

811
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,800
and bad in every species like
good and bad, which is good, and

812
00:48:27,808 --> 00:48:30,400
bad vampires, get them.
Good and bad and everybody.

813
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,300
And that's when she tells his
mom.

814
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:36,500
She's like, I know I know things
about you, but I'm going to make

815
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:42,200
up my own mind on the type of
person that you are and You

816
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,500
know, she she mentions Diana's
parents to her.

817
00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:48,300
She asked if she knows why her
parents were married.

818
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,600
I mean, were murdered and Diana
tells her that she doesn't.

819
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,000
And she thinks long and hard
before she responds to that.

820
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,900
And she tells her, whoever did
it make them pay.

821
00:48:58,900 --> 00:49:02,000
She was like, it's not going to
take away the hurt, but it'll

822
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,300
help and Diana just kind of
looks at her and just kind of

823
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:10,700
like very silly nods her head,
but it's kind of like one of

824
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:13,800
those things where it's like,
Okay, I understand you and you

825
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,600
understand me.
So it's like, maybe they don't

826
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,100
like each other.
Maybe they're not going to be

827
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:20,800
BFFs.
But I think at that point, they

828
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,300
were kind of looking at each
other with like, and agreed

829
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:30,900
mutual respect.
But I for Diana's character to

830
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:33,300
not have fallen apart at this
point.

831
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:39,200
I mean, Your magic has been
exposed, accidentally something

832
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,600
that you never wanted.
You've got vampires after you.

833
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,800
I mean, well, not the vampires
after her will, technically

834
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,600
speaking Matthew Willis for a
minute, but you've got witches

835
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:57,400
after to, you know, you you've
gotten threats.

836
00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:02,500
You just found out that your own
kind murdered, your parents.

837
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,600
You've had to be uprooted from.
Your Helm your life and it's

838
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,600
just it's a lot for somebody to
deal with.

839
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,700
And then we find out this is all
taking place in the span of

840
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:16,400
three weeks.
That's a lot for somebody to

841
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,500
deal with without, like, I'm
surprised her magic isn't going

842
00:50:19,500 --> 00:50:27,500
more Haywire than it is, you
know, one thing Isabel nose.

843
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,500
No nose of what she speaks when
she tells her to go kill them,

844
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:35,600
that is not going to help, but
it is not is not Going to cure

845
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,500
anything, but it helps because
that's exactly what she did.

846
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,700
She went and killed when she
found that which is which has

847
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:43,900
killed her husband.
She went and started

848
00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:47,300
Exterminating covens.
And while it probably didn't

849
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:49,400
replace anything, it kind of
helped.

850
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,900
So that's kind of a McCobb
moment when you think about it.

851
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:56,800
It's like, okay, go handle you
handle business, like, you know,

852
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,200
take care of them.
Like it's not going to, it's not

853
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,000
going to take the pain out of
your heart, but it'll give it.

854
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,800
It's a start like in she always
all she had.

855
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:07,000
Houses way for her to say,
believe me.

856
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:12,000
I know and look out into the
distance, it almost like you're

857
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,000
like you're like which is
calling out, calling out in fear

858
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,500
and stuff.
But yeah, but I mean she she

859
00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:21,100
knows firsthand that you know, a
little little bit of blood goes

860
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:24,300
a long way and healing We'll
see.

861
00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:31,300
I mean, I'm kind of You know, we
keep saying we wonder what Diane

862
00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:34,700
is going to be like when she
comes into her full power or

863
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:39,000
when she realizes, you know,
when she's able to control her

864
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,200
her power.
And this was before when we

865
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,100
thought, she just needed to
protect herself.

866
00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:48,800
Now, she knows her parents were
murdered by witches, you know,

867
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,000
and I don't know.
Maybe she thinks Peter Knox has

868
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,400
something to do with that.
Maybe she doesn't, but I won't

869
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,100
want to be a witch right now.
I really wouldn't.

870
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,600
I would be.
Oh wait, you know what?

871
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:03,800
Um, I'm gonna go visit the
states for maybe a couple of

872
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,300
months.
Catch y'all on the flip side.

873
00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:09,900
Y'all let me know when you're
when the bishop problem has been

874
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:11,900
dealt with.
I don't want to be here for

875
00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:15,700
that, you know, even the support
of all we like Siberia or

876
00:52:15,707 --> 00:52:19,400
somewhere just like, you know,
out of her view or or anywhere

877
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,100
that you can find them.
Just like I'm I'm in an article

878
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:23,400
yelling.
You know, when this is that one

879
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,300
issue though.
All right.

880
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,500
Okay.
Okay.

881
00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:29,300
Here's here's the thing.
Maybe cuz I'm looking into this

882
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:32,600
too much again, going back to
what we were talking about last

883
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,800
episode about how she doesn't
seem to have any interest in

884
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,600
anything that should be related
to her being a witch.

885
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:44,000
She's 32 ish, can we agree on
right around there?

886
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,500
32 ish?
Maybe 34 around their 30s, mid

887
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,300
around there?
Okay.

888
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:56,000
All right.
Um, I don't know about you guys,

889
00:52:56,900 --> 00:53:01,800
but if my parents had been
killed and they had been killed

890
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,100
in a really freaky way.
I'm thinking I would have looked

891
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:10,500
into it myself.
I don't think I want to wait.

892
00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:14,500
Until I'm in my 30s to have
someone who I've only known for

893
00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:17,200
three weeks.
Say, well, if you magnified a

894
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,500
photo you can see right here.
It was a witches Circle.

895
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:25,100
Something's going on with that.
Okay, something is going on

896
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:30,100
because that is not normal.
Oh, girl should know.

897
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:32,400
There's something going on from
way back.

898
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,400
If not, her aunts are hiding
something.

899
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:37,900
Okay.
That's all I got to say.

900
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,500
That is a problem.
That is an issue.

901
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:44,400
I'm going to call it.
I think she's got spell put on.

902
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:54,500
The winner, a spell she's been
compelled to forget that my

903
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,600
Audible.
And you know what that actually

904
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,900
does make sense, especially if
you think about it.

905
00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:05,300
Remember, we were talking the
last episode about the fact that

906
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:11,000
Emily and Sarah, sing to be on
two different, two, different

907
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,800
wavelengths when it comes to
Diana.

908
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,600
And her Involvement with the
witches, like Sarah is the one

909
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,400
who like keeps trying to push
her life.

910
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,200
You need to, you need to do
this.

911
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,400
You need to embrace your, you
know, you need to learn how to

912
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,000
use your powers, blah, blah,
blah, blah.

913
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,600
And Emily has been kind of like,
no kind of leave her alone.

914
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,500
Let her deal with things in her
own way.

915
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:36,400
That would make so much sense.
And then the fact that saw to

916
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,800
one side, two first met her, she
tried to do a spell to see how

917
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,800
powerful she wasn't.
She said something about.

918
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,700
You did something to To it, you
know, it was almost like she

919
00:54:48,700 --> 00:54:51,600
since the block and Diana.
So maybe that is the case.

920
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,200
Maybe she does have a spell put
on her, but maybe she wasn't the

921
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,500
one that did it.
Maybe maybe her parents did it

922
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:06,000
or maybe Emily did it or maybe
some other you know, that that

923
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,200
opens up a whole different whole
lot of possibilities because she

924
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,800
could that they could have
placed a spell on her to protect

925
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,000
her especially if she's as
powerful.

926
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,700
Like Other other magical
creatures, they can sense her

927
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:21,000
power.
They can smell her power.

928
00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:24,400
Maybe they it that to kind of
hide there.

929
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,400
But at this point she had met
some to you know, she had a mess

930
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,600
at situ yet.
But remember she met situ in the

931
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,800
first episode and saw two tone.
Yeah.

932
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,800
She tried to do a spell on her
and she said, oh, yes!

933
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,500
You did.
You said you did something to it

934
00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:46,800
or you blocked it or Ben.
What did you do?

935
00:55:47,300 --> 00:55:53,600
So she thinks that yeah, Diana
is the one who I guess blocked

936
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,600
her own spell blocked her own
magic, but maybe somebody else

937
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,600
did that for that very reason so
that if someone powerful like

938
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,900
situ comes across Diana, they
won't detect it.

939
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,700
Maybe that's also why when Peter
knocks tested her when she was a

940
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:10,900
child.
He detected.

941
00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:13,300
No magic.
Maybe she already had a spell

942
00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:16,200
put on her back then, you know
what I'm saying?

943
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:21,600
So which would explain a lot.
I mean, because like I said,

944
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,900
this is just I got is telling
the guys, it's just sort of

945
00:56:25,900 --> 00:56:31,500
unnatural on how unbothered she
is about, just everything, and

946
00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:35,300
even now that she's getting more
and more Curious.

947
00:56:35,300 --> 00:56:39,600
It's still not to the point
where I think it should be.

948
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,700
It's sort of like, she's about
35% to 40% interested, but she

949
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:47,000
could take it either way, right
makes sense.

950
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,300
You know, she's like, yeah, like
that.

951
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,400
Yeah.
Because if that was me, Me, I

952
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,700
would be trying to find out
everything I could, but then

953
00:56:56,700 --> 00:57:00,100
again, if it was me and my
parents have been murdered, I

954
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:04,100
would probably like, I'm one of
those personalities.

955
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:07,800
I would probably be obsessed
with finding out what happened,

956
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,600
especially since, you know, even
when she was asked her.

957
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,400
I think she was having a
conversation with Sean.

958
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,000
And she was telling Sean about
her parents and that they were

959
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,700
murdered because they were
suspected.

960
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:28,000
Of being witches, that's all.
You know, after all this time.

961
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:31,100
I would have been obsessed.
I would have been.

962
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:37,600
Yeah, I it just, it does seem
odd even for someone who wants

963
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:43,000
to kind of distance themselves
even for someone who has PTSD.

964
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,300
It does seem very odd that she
just has no clue.

965
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,000
And then her dream was when she
saw her.

966
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,300
Mom is like You didn't see the
spider webs, but then when she

967
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:56,900
reached out to her mom to
spiderwebs appeared and it

968
00:57:56,900 --> 00:58:00,900
seemed to restrain her from
going to her mom though, live

969
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:04,300
them thinking that the spider
the spider webs are part of this

970
00:58:04,300 --> 00:58:06,400
pill you.
Since we're in pursuit of Cicero

971
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,800
postulating that the that has to
be some kind of it has to be,

972
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,600
had some have something to do
with what's keeping with

973
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,500
suppressing.
The memories is like the spider

974
00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:19,400
is weaving weaving.
Its web around the memories to

975
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,300
restrain them and to keep them
from freezing.

976
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:25,300
Those in helping her manifest
her powers.

977
00:58:25,700 --> 00:58:28,900
So I think it's something.
I do think there's something to

978
00:58:28,900 --> 00:58:30,300
that.
Hmm.

979
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:32,400
That's something new to think
about.

980
00:58:32,500 --> 00:58:36,800
My thing is that, it makes sense
because if you see every time

981
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,100
her power has manifested, its
Ben's like an elemental power,

982
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:44,000
right, and the counter to
elemental.

983
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,000
Power usually in Fantasy is
either a human or animal type of

984
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,100
a power or totem.
So spider could be some sort of

985
00:58:52,107 --> 00:58:54,100
power.
Powerful totem that is connected

986
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:56,800
to whatever spill that might be
taking over her.

987
00:58:57,500 --> 00:59:01,300
Mmm.
So now I'm gonna always got to

988
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:06,900
be a spider's.
What is why?

989
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:18,300
Couldn't it be butterflies?
Or even a fly a fighter?

990
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:20,100
Damn?
Hmm.

991
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,500
Okay, but we're going to come
back to I am because I want to

992
00:59:23,508 --> 00:59:25,400
go back to the congregation for
a minute.

993
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:31,100
So, Knox is in the witch's
archives and he's looking

994
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:35,100
through the files, the Diana,
Bishop files and satu answers

995
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,400
and she basically starts
questioning him.

996
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,900
You know, why didn't you tell me
you had an official tested?

997
00:59:41,900 --> 00:59:44,900
And, you know, I thought we were
supposed to be working together,

998
00:59:44,900 --> 00:59:48,200
blah, blah, blah, blah blah and
he pulls.

999
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,300
I don't know what this little
thing is this in his pocket.

1000
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:54,500
He pulls it out of his pocket
and he starts saying a spell and

1001
00:59:54,500 --> 00:59:56,200
the spell basically immobilizes
her.

1002
00:59:56,500 --> 01:00:03,300
She can only move her eyeballs.
And he basically, you know,

1003
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:06,400
starts while, I mean, he starts
skulking around her, not even

1004
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,400
walking.
He skulking around her.

1005
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:15,400
Like, he's making himself feel
very threatening towards her and

1006
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,000
he's like, I brought you here to
be my Ally, not for you to

1007
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,300
question me and undermine me
like he's basically letting it

1008
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:28,500
know you are nothing without me.
I was the one who puts you here.

1009
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:31,200
I was the one who brought You
hear, you're going to do what I

1010
01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:35,400
want you to do.
He basically insinuates that,

1011
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,700
you know, when when the humans
used to, when they were doing

1012
01:00:39,700 --> 01:00:45,100
the Salem witch trials, they
used to crush suspected witches

1013
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,900
under weights, you know, to kind
of make them confess or, you

1014
01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:51,500
know, to see whether or not
they're witches and he threatens

1015
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:55,500
to do the same with her.
And he has already, like, he has

1016
01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:58,000
forcefully thrown her on this
table with the spell of his,

1017
01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:01,600
with his spell.
Well, and she can't move, and

1018
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,000
this little ball that he had in
his pocket.

1019
01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:08,000
He gets ready to sit it down on
her face and it's almost like

1020
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,300
you could feel the pressure of
it.

1021
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,600
Like this little bitty ball,
seemed like it was holding the

1022
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,500
weight of the world, and she was
really scared that this thing

1023
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:19,500
was about to crush her.
And then he releases her from

1024
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:22,300
The Spill.
And he basically tells her, he

1025
01:01:22,308 --> 01:01:24,700
was like, we can only protect
ourselves from the humans and

1026
01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:28,100
other creatures if we work
together and he gets up.

1027
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:35,000
He takes the files and he
Leaves. and, Again, the look on

1028
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,900
her face when she's looking at
him as he's leaving.

1029
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:44,500
It's like all of this.
All of this anger about.

1030
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:49,200
Patriarchy and men being in
charge, is like it's starting to

1031
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,400
fester in her, especially
considering what he just did to

1032
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,600
her.
Basically.

1033
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,000
He was like, yeah, you're
powerful but I'm more powerful

1034
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,500
to you than you.
I brought you here.

1035
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,400
I put you in this space.
You're supposed to be my Ally.

1036
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:05,900
You don't get to question me
that whole arrogance that he has

1037
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:11,400
about himself and it's just kind
of like, I feel it coming, you

1038
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,900
know, change is coming.
I feel it to see me.

1039
01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:18,500
Do anything about it now, but
she's going to file that away

1040
01:02:18,500 --> 01:02:23,600
from me.
Yes, darling it away.

1041
01:02:23,900 --> 01:02:29,900
And she's like, yeah, I'm gonna
miss behind because many people

1042
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,400
will the I brought you into, I
brought you into this world.

1043
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,900
I can take you out thing.
That's basically that's

1044
01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:37,700
basically the equivalent of what
he did and it's just kind of

1045
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:41,900
like who you can feel it.
You can feel the tension when he

1046
01:02:41,900 --> 01:02:45,200
walked out of that room.
I mean if looks could kill he Be

1047
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,700
dead, which they probably can
considering, she's a witch, but

1048
01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:52,400
I don't think that's what she
wanted at the time.

1049
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,700
You know, I kind of have a
feeling.

1050
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:01,100
I almost have a feeling like she
is waiting for something like,

1051
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:08,600
it's I know she's there with
mice but you have to think about

1052
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,500
it.
Knocks went hunting for her in

1053
01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:14,600
the beginning.
Like he's searched, he sniffed

1054
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,700
her out.
He searched her out and she

1055
01:03:17,700 --> 01:03:20,400
seemed to be like in a position
where she didn't want to be

1056
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,400
found and he found her anyway,
so one, even though she is

1057
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,000
working there with him.
I feel like she's either, doing

1058
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:33,800
it for her own gain for her own
purposes or He's doing it

1059
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,700
because he has something that
he's using against her, but I

1060
01:03:37,707 --> 01:03:40,400
don't think she's there
willingly working with him.

1061
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:44,000
That happened there.
I think I think she's there

1062
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,600
willingly.
I just think that she I don't

1063
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:52,600
think, I don't think she knew
how I don't.

1064
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:55,000
I wouldn't call it corrupt, but
I don't think.

1065
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:59,500
See I really understood
understands what he wants.

1066
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:01,500
Like.
He just wants power.

1067
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,300
That's what he's about.
She just wanted to be a part of

1068
01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:09,300
the world being on the
congregation, you know?

1069
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,200
Okay.
Being one of the influence.

1070
01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:15,700
But I think she didn't realize
that she to him.

1071
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,600
She's just a tool to get what he
wants.

1072
01:04:19,300 --> 01:04:23,000
And that's how everyone is.
Everyone is just someone to be

1073
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,500
used someone to be a tool,
because what he ultimately

1074
01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:28,400
wants, is more power for
himself.

1075
01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:32,700
And I don't think she and to
that point that moment.

1076
01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:35,800
I don't think she realized she
didn't at that moment.

1077
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,400
She finally realized that.
That's what he's about.

1078
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,500
He's not trying to work with
her.

1079
01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:42,300
He's not trying to teach
anything.

1080
01:04:42,500 --> 01:04:45,800
She's a weapon that he's going
to use whenever he wants to and

1081
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,800
she needs to understand that
that's how he feels about her.

1082
01:04:49,300 --> 01:04:57,400
Hmm. my ear saying, you can't,
Okay, I have a small dick.

1083
01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:03,000
I'm not really good at this.
So so I'm thinking that whatever

1084
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,900
he put he pulled out of his,
what he pulled out of his pocket

1085
01:05:05,900 --> 01:05:09,400
was something.
That was, I think it was part of

1086
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,600
a rock, one of those rocks that
was used and as part of this,

1087
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,300
one of the ways that he can tap
into dark magic.

1088
01:05:15,500 --> 01:05:21,800
I think this probably alone that
he has that guy that he can draw

1089
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,200
from that, would give him access
to dark.

1090
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:28,900
Because I mean that I mean what
he did, I mean it's a little

1091
01:05:28,900 --> 01:05:31,800
black Pebble.
So it just screams dark magic

1092
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,100
anyway, and then the way he
used, it walked around her

1093
01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:39,200
nearly pure wedded her without
touching her made instantly,

1094
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,800
right?
We're back.

1095
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,500
All the cops of that.
And they like you saying,

1096
01:05:44,500 --> 01:05:50,500
basically feel being able to
feel the weight of it being put

1097
01:05:50,500 --> 01:05:53,100
on her and not put on her.
I'm pot.

1098
01:05:53,100 --> 01:05:55,800
I'm almost positive.
That's like a part of Of a part

1099
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,800
of one of the rocks from that
because I was just like

1100
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,800
remembering the play, The
Crucible when they, when they

1101
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,000
were talking about when the guy
got killed, he was he just said

1102
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,300
more weight.
When they kept putting stones on

1103
01:06:06,300 --> 01:06:09,000
this trip, to try to get him to
confess though.

1104
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,400
I'm almost positive.
That's what that is.

1105
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,400
And I'm sure that's not the Only
Rule.

1106
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,200
Only told him that he has where
he can draw, he can draw dark

1107
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:23,800
power from the awesome thing.
That is I didn't even think

1108
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:28,200
about that, but That also makes
a lot of sense.

1109
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,600
Lucky child coming up with these
bomb-ass theories tonight, who

1110
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:34,700
y'all got?
Y'all are going to make it.

1111
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,700
But I mean, seriously, it's like
now sitting here thinking about

1112
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:43,400
all this especially like the
theory about Diana being under a

1113
01:06:43,408 --> 01:06:46,200
spell.
And that, that makes me want to

1114
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:50,000
go back and kind of re-watch
just to kind of see if that

1115
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,900
influences the way that I
watched the episodes.

1116
01:06:52,900 --> 01:06:58,000
Now, because that really does
seem like Like a very plausible

1117
01:06:58,100 --> 01:07:03,200
Theory, it makes the interaction
between socks with a Diana.

1118
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,500
Make more sense.
The way their society was

1119
01:07:05,500 --> 01:07:08,000
confused about whatever magic
was going on.

1120
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,000
That makes the image that
comfort that will see, makes way

1121
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,500
more sense.
Now, right, you take that into

1122
01:07:13,500 --> 01:07:15,800
consideration and then you have
to think about it.

1123
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:20,500
So if PSI to try to test Diana's
power powers during that

1124
01:07:20,500 --> 01:07:24,100
encounter, and she could sense
that there was something there,

1125
01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:27,600
but it was hidden.
But then she turned around and

1126
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,800
she read knox's report saying
that Diana had no powers.

1127
01:07:32,500 --> 01:07:35,800
She knows one of two things.
She knows that knocks either

1128
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:43,300
lied about Diana having powers
or that Diana's parents lied to

1129
01:07:43,300 --> 01:07:49,200
Knox or did something and Knox
has no clue that or had no clue.

1130
01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:54,600
That Diana had powers prior to
encountering her, you know, the

1131
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:59,000
couple of encounters he had Her
in the last couple of episodes.

1132
01:07:59,300 --> 01:08:03,800
So I think at this point like
saw to knows that knocks.

1133
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:08,500
Is there something maybe off
about knocks in this sense?

1134
01:08:08,500 --> 01:08:12,200
Like either you don't know what
you're doing or you're or you

1135
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,100
know what you're doing and
you're lying about it.

1136
01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:17,899
But either way it goes,
something's not adding up and I

1137
01:08:17,899 --> 01:08:25,000
think she's starting to see it.
You know, that could be, I get

1138
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,500
this feeling that as we watch
these episodes more and more,

1139
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:36,500
that there is a continuous back,
plot that we are only getting

1140
01:08:36,500 --> 01:08:37,800
introduced to a little bit at a
time.

1141
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,000
But if we look at the full eight
episodes, we're going to see the

1142
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,600
full that was in the background.
That actually, by the time we

1143
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,300
get to, the end of your going to
be like really, that's kind of.

1144
01:08:48,399 --> 01:08:50,899
You see what I'm saying?
Because there's too many little

1145
01:08:51,100 --> 01:08:53,899
Red's each episode like you keep
saying that.

1146
01:08:53,899 --> 01:08:55,500
They keep dropping stopping
dropping.

1147
01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:58,500
Stop it.
And it's got that mean, the show

1148
01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:03,600
is so brilliant, that I wouldn't
put it past them to drop a bomb

1149
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,100
on us, right?
And hit us with something, which

1150
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:12,300
we will do in the next couple
emphasis, but you probably will.

1151
01:09:12,300 --> 01:09:15,600
Yes.
Okay, so we're still in the

1152
01:09:15,608 --> 01:09:19,200
congregation.
Why all of this is going on

1153
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,100
while Peter in situ are having
their thing and Baldwin is, you

1154
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:27,800
know, doing whatever Agatha is
doing some research on her own

1155
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:31,600
and she calls to speak to
Sophie.

1156
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:36,300
And when she does, she ask
Sophie about the statue that she

1157
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:39,300
talked about.
She asks, why she thinks that

1158
01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:44,100
statue is linked to Alchemy and
Sophie tells her that the moon

1159
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:47,100
in her hair reminds her of the
White Queen and the books.

1160
01:09:47,300 --> 01:09:50,399
That the person that she
supposed to give it to is an

1161
01:09:50,399 --> 01:09:54,500
Alchemy to, which she didn't
mention in the last episode.

1162
01:09:54,700 --> 01:09:58,300
So Agatha asked, she says well,
what do you mean?

1163
01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:02,700
And she says, well I've had
visions of this person and she's

1164
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:07,500
located in a castle with seven
towers and she starts telling

1165
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,900
Agatha about the importance of
the number 7 and Alchemy.

1166
01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:16,000
And a cactus is just sitting
here listening to all of this.

1167
01:10:16,300 --> 01:10:19,900
And so He tells her that the
person is in the castle with

1168
01:10:19,900 --> 01:10:22,600
seven towers and she's with her
dark King.

1169
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,400
The answers, like, she's sitting
there putting two and two

1170
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,900
together.
She's like hold up.

1171
01:10:28,300 --> 01:10:31,900
She was like, um, I need you to
not talk about this to anybody.

1172
01:10:31,900 --> 01:10:33,800
So if it's like, who am I gonna
tell?

1173
01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:36,200
She's like, wait.
Do you know who this person is?

1174
01:10:36,900 --> 01:10:40,800
And Agatha's?
Like, yeah, I think so, and

1175
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,100
Sophie is like, oh, you've got
him.

1176
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:45,700
You've got to introduce me.
You've got to, you've got to get

1177
01:10:45,700 --> 01:10:49,500
us to me and of this life.
No, she's in trouble.

1178
01:10:49,500 --> 01:10:53,100
So I want you nowhere near it.
This no, you cannot come near

1179
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:54,700
her.
No, this is no.

1180
01:10:54,700 --> 01:10:57,000
I just need the information.
No, you don't need to meet her.

1181
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,300
You don't need to do this
Destiny.

1182
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:03,200
No, no, no.
And this is kind of like now.

1183
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:10,500
I'm really intrigued because
everybody's having visions all

1184
01:11:10,500 --> 01:11:12,500
over the place.
So again, we still don't know

1185
01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:14,200
what Sophie is.
I don't know.

1186
01:11:14,900 --> 01:11:15,800
Okay.
Let me say this.

1187
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:20,300
I'm going to assume at this
point, that Sophie is probably a

1188
01:11:20,300 --> 01:11:25,600
demon because with a Agatha
being on the count of being on

1189
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,100
the congregation and her son
being a demon.

1190
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:34,400
I don't think that she would
allow that to be with another

1191
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,700
species or with a human.
So I think at this point it's

1192
01:11:37,700 --> 01:11:42,300
probably safe to say that Sophie
is also a demon but then that

1193
01:11:43,900 --> 01:11:49,500
That makes me wonder.
Well, I'm saying because he he's

1194
01:11:49,500 --> 01:11:52,600
really for interspecies
mingling.

1195
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:59,000
Like he's a he's against the ban
on it and like he's we know that

1196
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,900
is not against he's not against
the bad.

1197
01:12:01,900 --> 01:12:06,000
What he's against is the fact
that they've based treatment of

1198
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,200
demons.
Yeah.

1199
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,700
They've basically said that
demons cannot.

1200
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:11,300
They cannot associate with each
other.

1201
01:12:11,300 --> 01:12:15,500
They cannot congregate.
Together and it feels like

1202
01:12:15,500 --> 01:12:19,000
that's discrimination against
their whole species.

1203
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,100
And he's like, you know, we have
so many problems right now

1204
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:25,800
because of the fact that we
can't come together and that

1205
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,500
needs to change.
So yeah, I don't think that

1206
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:32,400
would make it more likely that
Sophie is a demon because that's

1207
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,500
who he would want to be with,
right, but see that there's also

1208
01:12:36,500 --> 01:12:41,600
the other thing obviously makes
it even and Agatha is a diva and

1209
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:42,500
hello.
That's his mom.

1210
01:12:42,700 --> 01:12:45,800
So they kind of been around each
other their entire lives sort of

1211
01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:49,400
so, you know that bulls that out
the window.

1212
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,100
I mean, unless of course demons
can't.

1213
01:12:53,300 --> 01:12:55,800
Congregate with her family to a
certain ways.

1214
01:12:56,500 --> 01:13:00,300
Let's see the whole thing with
the card, as a group, as a

1215
01:13:00,300 --> 01:13:04,200
group, but see that thing.
The whole thing with the name.

1216
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:09,500
Is this kind of Has me asking
questions to because one of the

1217
01:13:09,500 --> 01:13:16,100
thing that Nate is doing, is he
created a chat room for demons,

1218
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:20,100
who were born of humans, you
know, so it's kind of like,

1219
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:23,300
okay, so that's what you guys
are saying.

1220
01:13:23,300 --> 01:13:26,700
They can't, they can't cope
mingle with species.

1221
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:32,300
But you've got demons who are
being born to humans, but

1222
01:13:32,300 --> 01:13:36,200
clearly Nat was born to his
mother who is also a demon.

1223
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:41,900
So that means that either she
was with another demon or I

1224
01:13:41,900 --> 01:13:44,100
mean, it's just there's like a
whole bunch of questions.

1225
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:49,100
I have as far as the demons and
their backgrounds and how they

1226
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:51,700
fit into all of this.
Like, we pretty much know the

1227
01:13:51,700 --> 01:13:56,400
vampire, sire, sire each other.
We know, you know that the

1228
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,300
witches Tsar.
As far as we can tell, they're

1229
01:13:59,300 --> 01:14:03,100
born witches, but the demons are
kind of like this big question

1230
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:06,900
mark.
You know, as far as how are the

1231
01:14:06,900 --> 01:14:09,900
demons like, okay.
Yeah, like I said, we know that

1232
01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:12,700
they're born of humans.
We know that some of the demons

1233
01:14:12,700 --> 01:14:16,200
are born of other demons as in
Agatha net.

1234
01:14:16,700 --> 01:14:19,000
But other than that, we really
don't know anything about them.

1235
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,000
Except for the fact that right.
Now, as far as their species

1236
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:27,800
goes, their species is also
dying out there, prone to fits

1237
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,200
of Madness.
They're homeless, which means

1238
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:37,100
they have no kind of societal.
They have no kind of they don't

1239
01:14:37,100 --> 01:14:41,000
have support from the
congregation obviously, so it's

1240
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,100
just kind of like what's the
deal with the demons?

1241
01:14:44,700 --> 01:14:46,900
Like one?
Why are they so ostracized as

1242
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:52,400
opposed to everybody else and
like I think they're going to be

1243
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,800
important in the grand scheme of
things.

1244
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,100
I think everything that's going
on.

1245
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,400
I think Dan is going to find out
that the demons have a lot more

1246
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,400
to do with you then.
Then we know, I hope so because

1247
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,900
I've been that is kind of like,
I feel like they're giving us

1248
01:15:10,900 --> 01:15:15,100
this species but they're not
giving us enough background on

1249
01:15:15,100 --> 01:15:20,800
them and it just kind of feels
like filler right now, which

1250
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:24,500
again, we've talked about this
show and the way the writing is

1251
01:15:24,500 --> 01:15:28,800
and how things seem to be, you
know, in my words.

1252
01:15:28,900 --> 01:15:32,400
It's a more intelligent show,
you know, so I don't think that

1253
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,600
they would just give us filler
just to Spiller like well, I

1254
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,600
think I think the writers are
intentionally holding stuff

1255
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,500
back, especially with the demons
because they want to do the big

1256
01:15:42,500 --> 01:15:45,400
reveal later.
That's that's kind of what I

1257
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:50,100
keep feeling because we only if
you think about it, we if we

1258
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:55,800
still look at the story from the
perspective of Diana, she didn't

1259
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,200
know anything about anything
right?

1260
01:15:58,300 --> 01:16:02,100
Who is long as she doesn't know
anything about the demons real -

1261
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:03,200
We're not gonna go.
Oh, yeah.

1262
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:04,200
You're right.
You're right.

1263
01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:07,600
Either that makes him.
And so I think that's something

1264
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,800
that they're holding back for
when it's revealed to her.

1265
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,700
It will be revealed to us.
Damn it.

1266
01:16:12,700 --> 01:16:19,400
I want to know now because we
want to keep you watching keep

1267
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:23,000
watching regardless.
But yeah, but I am very curious

1268
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,200
about that and it's funny
because like Lori said, when we

1269
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,700
first started talking about the
show, you don't really get a lot

1270
01:16:30,700 --> 01:16:38,200
of shows where demons are a part
of The makeup of characters like

1271
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,400
you get you get demons alike
Supernatural, but I mean

1272
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:45,000
Supernatural was like just a
show on its own.

1273
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:49,900
It's like when you deal with
vampires and humans and witches,

1274
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,200
usually the other component of
that is werewolves.

1275
01:16:55,300 --> 01:17:00,500
I can't remember the last time I
did this, you know, this

1276
01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:02,900
prominent in the story and
they're not even really

1277
01:17:02,900 --> 01:17:05,700
prominent at this point, but we
know that there's a main

1278
01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:09,900
component about them and there's
something missing about them.

1279
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,100
And you're right.
I do feel like there's going to

1280
01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:16,600
be something big that comes of
this, especially the fact that,

1281
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,400
you know, now we're getting
Sophie, a little bit more and

1282
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,500
we're learning about this statue
and these Visions.

1283
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,900
I know that there's something
coming.

1284
01:17:25,900 --> 01:17:29,300
I just want to know now because
I'm curious and I just want to

1285
01:17:29,308 --> 01:17:34,400
see how the puzzle pieces fit
together, you know, but again,

1286
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,500
there's so much.
I'm sorry.

1287
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,500
Sorry, conical.
I know it's fine because like I

1288
01:17:39,508 --> 01:17:44,000
know there's a little bit of a
lag so, correct.

1289
01:17:44,300 --> 01:17:48,200
Correct me if I'm wrong, but on
the demon thing really quickly,

1290
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,100
we didn't see other than last
season.

1291
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,700
Any day was The Vampire Diaries
year, right?

1292
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:00,500
We saw monsters, but we didn't
see demons.

1293
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,800
I mean, because the siren really
technically doesn't count to

1294
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:09,400
demon or am I wrong?
We see Diaz and Legacy, but

1295
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,700
that's the first time because we
don't see it in the originals

1296
01:18:11,700 --> 01:18:12,800
either.
You're right.

1297
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,300
You're right.
And I'm sitting here thinking

1298
01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:20,400
long hard like whole look, like
I just got demons and Buffy.

1299
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:22,900
Yeah, I was thinking about.
There you go.

1300
01:18:22,900 --> 01:18:25,100
Angel, an angel.
Yes.

1301
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:27,900
Yes.
Yeah, but I mean, but those

1302
01:18:27,900 --> 01:18:33,100
shows were so long ago, as like
I, you know, like I said, aside

1303
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:35,100
from, and you're watching Angel
every year.

1304
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:45,000
Oh, yeah, every year I hate that
don't count Lucifer because

1305
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,000
that's just part of the story,
right?

1306
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:55,100
Humming is just, yeah, but but
Yeah, so I just I want to know

1307
01:18:55,108 --> 01:18:57,600
about the demons.
I don't know about the demons.

1308
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:03,100
But um, I'm obsessed about the
fact that of all the creatures

1309
01:19:03,100 --> 01:19:05,200
in the weight of the creatures
are created.

1310
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:09,800
It actually seems that the only
two races that are natural-born

1311
01:19:10,100 --> 01:19:14,700
are demons and witches and I
find it weird that the demons

1312
01:19:14,700 --> 01:19:19,000
are natural born of humans.
Because if they mentioned that

1313
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:23,100
at least three times, yes they
have, which again is probably

1314
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:26,300
one of those things that's going
to come up in a later episode

1315
01:19:26,300 --> 01:19:29,500
and be one of those big things.
Okay, I'll shut up there.

1316
01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:33,500
I'm sorry.
No, I'm just because honestly,

1317
01:19:33,500 --> 01:19:37,400
and it's funny because, like I
said, I watched this whole

1318
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:42,200
series when it first came out,
but that was, that was last

1319
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:42,600
year.
Wow.

1320
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,900
That was last year. 2020 was a
long year, because I really

1321
01:19:45,900 --> 01:19:49,900
thought it was I thought it was
earlier this year, but no, it

1322
01:19:49,900 --> 01:19:53,900
came out last year.
So it's been over a year since I

1323
01:19:53,900 --> 01:19:55,500
washed it.
So it's like, as we're

1324
01:19:55,500 --> 01:19:58,700
discussing it, and as I'm
watching the episodes, there are

1325
01:19:58,700 --> 01:20:02,200
certain things that are coming
back to me, but it's coming back

1326
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:09,900
to me and small pieces.
So, I can't think of what if

1327
01:20:09,900 --> 01:20:14,000
there is a big reveal about the
demons, what it is, but that I'm

1328
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,600
glad because that means I get to
experience it all over again,

1329
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:22,600
which is cool because and
especially now because because

1330
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,900
when I started watching the
show, there weren't a lot of

1331
01:20:26,900 --> 01:20:30,900
people that I knew who were also
watching the show.

1332
01:20:30,900 --> 01:20:34,100
So like I didn't have an
opportunity to talk about the

1333
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:37,300
show like I'm Doing right now
with this podcast.

1334
01:20:37,300 --> 01:20:42,600
So I just with me if I'm not
talking about something

1335
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,500
consistently.
I'll tend to forget about

1336
01:20:45,500 --> 01:20:48,100
things.
So, the fact that I'm, that

1337
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:51,400
we're able to talk about it,
like things are sticking in my

1338
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,200
mind, a little bit more.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm

1339
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,400
starting to remember this.
I remember this, but I don't

1340
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:59,000
remember like certain things,
which is great because, like I

1341
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,700
said, I get to experience it
again.

1342
01:21:00,900 --> 01:21:03,800
But yeah, I'm I'm still stuck on
this Dina thing.

1343
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,300
I want to know what's going on
with the demon.

1344
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,200
But we can talk about that all
day.

1345
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:12,400
I want to get to, I want to get
back to the congregation because

1346
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:16,900
Baldwin and Chabert are having a
very interesting conversation.

1347
01:21:22,900 --> 01:21:26,400
So they're having a conversation
while all this other stuff is

1348
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:31,200
going on in the congregation.
And, you know, Baldwin is

1349
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,300
telling your bare.
He's like, well, if Matthew has

1350
01:21:33,300 --> 01:21:35,700
the book, he's going to bring it
to me like he's He's so

1351
01:21:35,700 --> 01:21:38,500
confident that his brother is
going to do this thing that, you

1352
01:21:38,500 --> 01:21:41,600
know, yeah, he's going to bring
it to me as your bear is like,

1353
01:21:41,900 --> 01:21:47,300
Matthew has always done what
Matthew wants and you have no

1354
01:21:47,300 --> 01:21:51,500
control over him.
So again, Baldwin is B by the

1355
01:21:51,500 --> 01:21:55,200
rules by the book older brother.
Matthew is the rebel.

1356
01:21:55,300 --> 01:21:57,900
He's the one that's like, you
know, what, fuck your rules.

1357
01:21:57,900 --> 01:22:01,100
I'm gonna do what I want to do.
And we see that plainly right

1358
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:03,700
here.
And Chabert says, like I said,

1359
01:22:03,700 --> 01:22:06,900
they all know it, we all know.
He's going to do with you want.

1360
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:12,400
They all know it rich if you
think about it, when Dominica is

1361
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,500
your bear were talking and
Dominica was like yeah, we need

1362
01:22:15,500 --> 01:22:20,000
to use this as an opportunity to
you know to bring to bring

1363
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,400
Matthew in and get him punished
and stuff.

1364
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:24,700
They knew that this was the only
way they were going to be able

1365
01:22:24,700 --> 01:22:29,200
to do it because other than
that, they just can't they can't

1366
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,700
do anything with Matthew and
Dominica was going to find that

1367
01:22:31,700 --> 01:22:34,400
out in the hard way in a little
bit, but we'll talk about that

1368
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,400
too.
But It's so severe.

1369
01:22:37,900 --> 01:22:42,500
Basically he's telling ball when
he's like, look the vampires

1370
01:22:42,500 --> 01:22:46,600
applauded for more power.
The demons have become unruly,

1371
01:22:46,700 --> 01:22:50,100
you know, we used to rule this
with an iron fist, basically

1372
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:54,500
saying that the vampires used to
be the strongest of them all and

1373
01:22:54,500 --> 01:22:58,700
now jubair feels like they're
losing their grip on that

1374
01:22:58,700 --> 01:23:03,300
control and he thinks part of
that is Matthew's fault, you

1375
01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:08,200
know, he's like your brother is
Everything that we that we've

1376
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:13,500
been doing and your lack of
control over him, you know,

1377
01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:18,900
seems to weaken us and it's
compromising our position.

1378
01:23:19,500 --> 01:23:27,300
And I feel like he was lowkey
challenging Baldwin when he said

1379
01:23:27,300 --> 01:23:31,400
that he was like, oh, you know,
maybe the declare - don't have

1380
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:35,700
as much control as they used to,
you know, over 800 years is kind

1381
01:23:35,700 --> 01:23:40,300
of like yeah, you guys have been
on top of the food chain and now

1382
01:23:40,300 --> 01:23:43,200
it's all coming apart because
your brother can't stay away

1383
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,300
from a witch.
That's basically what the

1384
01:23:45,300 --> 01:23:51,300
implication was and Baldwin's
looking at him, like how dare

1385
01:23:51,300 --> 01:23:54,800
you, but at the same time.
Look at you can come for the

1386
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,400
crown.
If you want to write at the same

1387
01:23:58,407 --> 01:23:59,500
time.
You come forward.

1388
01:23:59,500 --> 01:24:01,700
If you want to he was making he
was making sense.

1389
01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:06,400
Like yeah, you guys, you know
your yeah, your dad started this

1390
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,100
congregation.
You guys are, you know, you guys

1391
01:24:09,100 --> 01:24:13,500
are the ones in charge, but
Knox, just accuse your brother

1392
01:24:13,500 --> 01:24:17,400
of breaking, you know,
congregation rules in front of

1393
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,300
everybody.
There's no way to hide this.

1394
01:24:19,300 --> 01:24:21,500
There's no way to work around
this.

1395
01:24:21,500 --> 01:24:25,800
Like, this is a Problem that you
have to confront directly.

1396
01:24:25,900 --> 01:24:28,400
And I don't know if you can do
it because you can't control

1397
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:32,700
your brother.
I was like, yeah, he's trying to

1398
01:24:32,700 --> 01:24:36,300
get that power.
And I think that was I don't

1399
01:24:36,300 --> 01:24:39,900
know, we were talking about the
last episode about Domenico and

1400
01:24:39,900 --> 01:24:42,800
Chabert and just kind of what
that relationship is.

1401
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:50,100
And you know, what, what there
What their motivations are and I

1402
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:52,700
think you should bear probably
wants that upper hand.

1403
01:24:52,700 --> 01:24:58,400
He wants that control and you
know knots just kind of I won't

1404
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:03,100
say handed it to him on a silver
platter, but he just basically

1405
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:08,900
made Baldwin look incompetent
through the faults of his

1406
01:25:08,900 --> 01:25:12,100
brother.
You know, it's like yeah your

1407
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:15,800
brother can't follow the rules.
So why why should we have you

1408
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,800
leading us?
Why should you be in charge?

1409
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:25,000
I get the feeling that, that
might be the least the ball once

1410
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,700
problems.
As far as how long is his

1411
01:25:27,700 --> 01:25:29,400
brother's gonna have to get
that?

1412
01:25:30,100 --> 01:25:32,700
I get to feeling, okay.
All right.

1413
01:25:32,700 --> 01:25:33,300
All right.
All right.

1414
01:25:33,300 --> 01:25:34,500
I'll be good.
I'll be good.

1415
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:40,900
It's fine.
That's a good segue because So

1416
01:25:41,300 --> 01:25:43,700
first, we gotta go that they
have this little dinner, you

1417
01:25:43,700 --> 01:25:48,600
know, there's a dinner at set to
her Diana Matthew and Isabelle,

1418
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,100
they're having dinner.
They're trying to be a little

1419
01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:58,900
civil but Isabel is again.
She's she's being, she's being

1420
01:25:58,900 --> 01:26:02,900
polite, but she's being
underhandedly polite because

1421
01:26:02,900 --> 01:26:04,700
it's like she's saying nice
things.

1422
01:26:04,700 --> 01:26:08,000
And then she's also getting a
dig in, while she's saying the

1423
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,800
nice things and then Your
dinner.

1424
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,200
They go into another room.
They sit in front of the fire

1425
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:17,800
and they start reminiscing a
little bit about old times and

1426
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,500
it kind of breaks the tension
and you can see Matthew and

1427
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:24,200
Isabel kind of enjoying
themselves because they, you

1428
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,900
know, Matthew asked his mother
to dance and they started

1429
01:26:26,900 --> 01:26:31,700
dancing and then he puts on
another record and ask Diana to

1430
01:26:31,700 --> 01:26:34,500
dance.
And, you know, the way that they

1431
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:38,900
set this up is supposed to be a
very kind of light-hearted scene

1432
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:43,200
and Diana tells Matthew.
She doesn't know how to dance.

1433
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,600
And, of course, they start
dancing and she's clumsy.

1434
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:49,700
She did you know, she trips over
his feet and, you know, it's

1435
01:26:49,700 --> 01:26:55,300
awkward and then just gradually,
you start to see.

1436
01:26:55,300 --> 01:26:59,400
It's like it's like she's
learning as she goes to the

1437
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:05,800
point where she goes from being
very clumsy to very good in like

1438
01:27:05,900 --> 01:27:10,600
a few minutes time and in the
midst of all this her Starts

1439
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,800
glowing with her magic, you
know, and it's just kind of a

1440
01:27:14,808 --> 01:27:17,700
thing like they're all looking
at her like, oh my God.

1441
01:27:17,700 --> 01:27:20,500
What is this?
And, you know, Matthew remarks

1442
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:23,100
to her?
When they go walking later on.

1443
01:27:23,100 --> 01:27:26,900
He says, you know, it's nice to
see you enjoying your magic

1444
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:29,700
because she hadn't, she hadn't
done that before.

1445
01:27:29,700 --> 01:27:34,000
And she just kind of let loose
and just kind of wasn't thinking

1446
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:38,800
about it and it manifested
itself in a beautiful way, in

1447
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,600
the dance.
And of Course, this leads to a

1448
01:27:41,608 --> 01:27:45,400
moment.
They share a kiss, and then they

1449
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:49,600
continue on their walk.
And they're walking.

1450
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,000
They're just talking about
trivial things.

1451
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,100
Like I said, this is kind of
like a fun moment between them,

1452
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:57,300
which is cool, because we all
get a lot of those moments in

1453
01:27:57,300 --> 01:27:59,600
this show.
It's like, drama drama, drama,

1454
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:04,700
Aang, Saints, you know, let's
deal with this and there's

1455
01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:07,500
almost no fun in the episode.
So you get to see these little

1456
01:28:07,500 --> 01:28:09,900
light-hearted moments with them,
which is fun.

1457
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:12,600
And then, of course, as they're
about to go back into the

1458
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:20,400
castle, Here's Domenico.
And Domenico and Matthew, they

1459
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:25,800
greet each other and you can
tell that they have known each

1460
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,300
other for a long time.
They, you know, they kind of

1461
01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:31,500
make reference to it that the
last time they saw each other.

1462
01:28:31,500 --> 01:28:36,200
They were fighting in a war.
I think who did Domenico said he

1463
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,700
was fighting for someone and
Matthew was fighting for the

1464
01:28:39,700 --> 01:28:42,200
Knights of the Templar and I was
like, oh wow.

1465
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:49,200
Okay, so dominicos very old, too
and he Basically is there to

1466
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:54,200
deliver a message from the
congregation to Diana now.

1467
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,900
Matthew, of course Ultra
protective mode.

1468
01:28:56,900 --> 01:28:58,600
He tries to send Diana back in
the house.

1469
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,100
And of course, we've all what
we've already established.

1470
01:29:01,100 --> 01:29:06,000
That Diana is no pushover and
she is not one for people

1471
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:10,500
telling her what to do and for
shying away from confrontation.

1472
01:29:10,500 --> 01:29:12,400
So she's basically like no, I'm
not going in.

1473
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:16,900
He can say what he has to say to
me, you know, and Dominico.

1474
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,600
Has her that she's been
commanded to appear before the

1475
01:29:19,608 --> 01:29:26,300
congregation to answer for
breaking Covenant rules and for

1476
01:29:26,300 --> 01:29:30,700
the book and she tells him that
she doesn't have the book in the

1477
01:29:30,700 --> 01:29:32,400
congregation.
Once they can go get it

1478
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,400
themselves and he's like, well,
that's why we need you there.

1479
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,100
We need you to tell us how to
call it up dummy.

1480
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:40,400
She's not coming with you.
And Matthew says, as much and

1481
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:45,700
Domenico kind of raise the
situation and he's like, oh, He

1482
01:29:45,700 --> 01:29:47,300
was like, this is not about the
book.

1483
01:29:47,300 --> 01:29:49,800
This is about her.
So you're breaking Covenant

1484
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:50,800
rules.
And you know what the

1485
01:29:50,808 --> 01:29:55,000
consequences are and Diana
sitting there, like, what is he

1486
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,300
talking about?
What rules, what consequences,

1487
01:29:57,300 --> 01:30:00,800
and of course, Isabel and Marta
have arrived in this about to be

1488
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:04,900
this big thing.
So Matthew, he turns to Diana,

1489
01:30:04,900 --> 01:30:07,800
he caresses her face and then he
tells his bow like get her in

1490
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,600
the house.
He turns around.

1491
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,700
He goes after Domenico and
Domenico doesn't know what has

1492
01:30:13,700 --> 01:30:17,200
happened.
Like all of a They were talking

1493
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,400
and then all of a sudden, now,
Matthew has his arms around

1494
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,700
Dominicans neck and he's about
to snap his neck.

1495
01:30:22,700 --> 01:30:26,100
I was like, wait, wait, they
can't kill him yet.

1496
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:28,900
He's too pretty.
We can't be rid of him.

1497
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,000
I just, I just want to point out
that the musical should realize

1498
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:39,100
that he didn't want any part of
Matthew at all.

1499
01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:44,200
If he didn't realize it, sure.
He realizes it now because like

1500
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:48,500
I said, he didn't even realize
Matthew had gotten behind him

1501
01:30:49,300 --> 01:30:52,200
and Matthew had his head.
Yeah, my thing is, okay.

1502
01:30:52,700 --> 01:30:55,800
All right.
Yeah.

1503
01:30:55,800 --> 01:31:00,600
He's like I volunteered to go
and get her but like, fuck, are

1504
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,600
you?
I think you said it wrong.

1505
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:11,600
I volunteer to contribute to
making, I think he thought he

1506
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,000
had, okay.
He thought he had the weight of

1507
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:20,000
the congregation behind him.
Forgetting the fact that Matthew

1508
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,900
does not care about the
congregation.

1509
01:31:22,900 --> 01:31:25,800
You know, who the commutation
rules?

1510
01:31:26,500 --> 01:31:28,700
He does it.
And I think the music.

1511
01:31:28,700 --> 01:31:32,700
Oh, really?
I think he I think he had good

1512
01:31:32,700 --> 01:31:35,400
intentions as far as he's
concerned, but I don't really

1513
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,300
think he thought it all the way
through.

1514
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:45,100
Way too much of himself.
Yeah, that's the second time

1515
01:31:45,100 --> 01:31:49,300
that someone who was really
powerful and wasn't expecting,

1516
01:31:49,300 --> 01:31:52,400
it got their asses handed to
them for such a tattoo.

1517
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,200
You got to hand it to her by
Knox.

1518
01:31:54,700 --> 01:31:58,100
Now, the really cool got his
handed to him by Matthew and

1519
01:31:58,100 --> 01:32:01,700
neither one of them work were
expecting that but they It's

1520
01:32:01,700 --> 01:32:03,700
great.
Got a little bit it can I say

1521
01:32:03,700 --> 01:32:07,000
that the medical actually looked
like a real vampire in this

1522
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:11,800
scene like you are looking eyes
were almost kind of the glowing.

1523
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:16,600
I was like, okay, finally we're
getting like kind of the evil

1524
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,700
van.
Like the typical vampire.

1525
01:32:18,700 --> 01:32:22,300
Look that was like, okay.
So there's this just in the dark

1526
01:32:22,300 --> 01:32:23,600
or not.
Sure.

1527
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,100
What's up?
But yeah, he definitely

1528
01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:28,900
definitely had that menacing
look and and the voice to go

1529
01:32:28,900 --> 01:32:32,700
with it.
But yeah after after, Have you

1530
01:32:32,700 --> 01:32:36,000
had Matthews Matthews arm around
this go?

1531
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,800
He changes to a real quick.
But here's the because we keep

1532
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:44,600
talking about characters who
fail to read the room.

1533
01:32:44,700 --> 01:32:47,100
We have been talking about this
through the boys.

1534
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:48,800
We talked about it through
curse.

1535
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:57,500
So when isabeau and Marta,
Stepped up and Dominico kind of

1536
01:32:57,500 --> 01:33:02,300
challenged Matthew and you know,
Matthew was like, no she's not

1537
01:33:02,300 --> 01:33:05,500
going anywhere with you Isabel
was even pleading with Matthew

1538
01:33:05,500 --> 01:33:09,100
like please, because I think she
saw where this was going and

1539
01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:12,400
Domenico said, so are you
refusing to allow me to carry

1540
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:16,100
out congregation duties?
And Matthew was like, yes, he

1541
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:18,800
said and you realize what the
consequences are Matthew was

1542
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,600
like, yes, that's the point.
When dominicano should have

1543
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:26,500
turned his ass around.
Out and just tell ball.

1544
01:33:26,500 --> 01:33:30,100
When you know what I tried.
It just didn't work because

1545
01:33:30,100 --> 01:33:33,000
Matthew made it known right,
then right there.

1546
01:33:33,300 --> 01:33:36,700
I know about your rules.
I don't give a fuck about your

1547
01:33:36,700 --> 01:33:39,600
rules.
She's staying here.

1548
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,700
You can go to hell.
That's basically what Matthew

1549
01:33:42,700 --> 01:33:47,700
said dominical, didn't know how
to read that room, and he paid

1550
01:33:47,700 --> 01:33:52,300
for because Matthew, I mean,
Matthew had time to turn around

1551
01:33:52,300 --> 01:33:57,100
caress, Diane.
Diana's face send her off, and

1552
01:33:57,100 --> 01:34:00,900
then get behind dominical,
dominical was behind him.

1553
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,500
Matthew had his back to
Domenico.

1554
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:07,300
He still ended up behind
dominical.

1555
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,700
Having him in a Chokehold and
broke his leg.

1556
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,200
And was like, look.
Okay.

1557
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:21,800
Well, thank you.
Okay, so Fleet creates the

1558
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:26,300
congregation, but Apparently,
whatever rules he put in place,

1559
01:34:26,300 --> 01:34:31,600
they all agreed to then applied
his family because you got it's

1560
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,600
about going off.
And slaughtering covens of

1561
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:39,300
witches, that Matthew who found
out though is the most

1562
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,300
Slaughter, the coven's after
Philippe was killed.

1563
01:34:42,300 --> 01:34:44,700
So I figured her mind at that
point.

1564
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,100
Fuck police rules.
He's dead.

1565
01:34:47,100 --> 01:34:50,800
So they didn't follow his rules.
So she's not going to follow

1566
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,400
them so I can understand her
doing that.

1567
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:56,000
Yeah.
So this this tenuous I'm going

1568
01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:00,400
to call it this tenuous little
thing that they have going on

1569
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,900
called the congregation.
I think it's not long for this

1570
01:35:02,900 --> 01:35:07,700
world.
Yeah, especially not if not, if

1571
01:35:07,700 --> 01:35:12,300
one of the sons is refusing to
follow the, you know, the rules

1572
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:16,300
he's a I was here before he was
even made so the rules on the

1573
01:35:16,308 --> 01:35:18,100
private beach, right?
Right.

1574
01:35:18,700 --> 01:35:23,100
So, again, Matthew breaks
dominicos leg pushes him and

1575
01:35:23,100 --> 01:35:25,700
he's basically Like you
delivered your message.

1576
01:35:25,700 --> 01:35:27,900
You got your answer the way from
here.

1577
01:35:27,900 --> 01:35:31,100
Don't come back and Domenico.
I was like, oh, I'm gonna hunt

1578
01:35:31,100 --> 01:35:33,900
you down and kill you.
Both talking about at first, at

1579
01:35:33,900 --> 01:35:35,800
first.
I was like, did you really just

1580
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:37,900
threaten Isabel?
But no, he was talking about

1581
01:35:37,900 --> 01:35:41,700
Matthew and Diana and he was
like, even declare my scan died.

1582
01:35:41,900 --> 01:35:44,200
I'm almost surprised at that
point.

1583
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,400
When he said that that is about.
Didn't grab him and snatch him

1584
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,500
up.
You know, she thought about it.

1585
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,600
No, she did, you know what it
was.

1586
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,800
She's the Regal one.
She's the one who has to show

1587
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,100
some control because at this
point her son is not doing a

1588
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:09,400
great job of it. so then, when
go ahead Lori, I got a little

1589
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,900
joke.
It wasn't quite, I will shoot

1590
01:36:11,900 --> 01:36:14,000
off your pinky choke, but it was
close.

1591
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:16,800
See that.
Yeah.

1592
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,800
Yeah.
Yeah.

1593
01:36:22,100 --> 01:36:25,800
I just know.
I think the thing the the

1594
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:30,600
declare - are not anyone.
They're not people or vampires.

1595
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,600
Anyone really want to mess with.
Oh, no.

1596
01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:36,200
I mean, we, we get that.
I mean, you think about it.

1597
01:36:36,300 --> 01:36:39,600
So Philippe created the Asian,
or he formed.

1598
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:43,600
The congregation Isabel is known
as a witch hunter.

1599
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:48,300
And she, you know, she has
literally the word was decimated

1600
01:36:49,300 --> 01:36:56,700
dozens of which covens over a
span of decades, Baldwin is now

1601
01:36:56,700 --> 01:36:59,500
the head of the congregation.
So, he's pretty much in charge

1602
01:36:59,500 --> 01:37:02,000
of all the supernatural beings.
Go figure.

1603
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:07,700
And then Matthew is again, the
rebellious, son who everybody

1604
01:37:07,700 --> 01:37:12,100
knows of But if you've noticed
not too many people dare to

1605
01:37:12,100 --> 01:37:16,900
approach.
I mean Knox came close, but that

1606
01:37:16,900 --> 01:37:19,500
wasn't by his choice.
He was there trying to

1607
01:37:19,508 --> 01:37:22,700
intimidate Diana and Matthew
happened to show up and knocks

1608
01:37:22,700 --> 01:37:24,400
was like, oh, yeah, you know
what?

1609
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,500
Peace out?
Oh, yeah.

1610
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:42,700
but, you know, after that
Isabel, I think after this

1611
01:37:42,700 --> 01:37:47,700
encounter Isabel kind of has A
deeper understanding of what's

1612
01:37:47,700 --> 01:37:50,400
going on because she looks at
Matthew, Matthew turns and looks

1613
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,000
at her, and she was like, The
Book of Life.

1614
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,500
Why didn't you, you know, why
didn't you say anything?

1615
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,300
And he admits to her, that, that
was what?

1616
01:37:59,300 --> 01:38:02,900
Initially Drew him to Diana, he
said, but then it became

1617
01:38:02,900 --> 01:38:06,900
something more.
And then he tells her, I think

1618
01:38:06,900 --> 01:38:11,400
the term he used was Maya, Maya
me, which is I'm in love

1619
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,900
translated and she was like, I
can see that, you know, it's

1620
01:38:14,900 --> 01:38:18,300
kind of like Matthew, I don't
think you need to tell anybody

1621
01:38:18,300 --> 01:38:21,300
this, at this point, like the
fact that you just basically

1622
01:38:21,300 --> 01:38:25,800
told your father's organization.
A big, screw you to protect

1623
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,300
this, which yeah, we kind of
figured you were in love.

1624
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:31,900
That's pretty obvious to
everyone now at this point, but

1625
01:38:33,300 --> 01:38:40,500
he is whipped but, you know,
right.

1626
01:38:40,500 --> 01:38:45,600
But she you know, she basically
tells him she was like Give her

1627
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:49,400
to the congregation.
They won't kill her if you do,

1628
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:55,500
but they will if you don't.
And you know, Matthew kind of

1629
01:38:55,500 --> 01:38:58,700
walks out.
And in the meantime, Diana is

1630
01:38:58,700 --> 01:39:00,900
inside with Martin.
She asked Martha about the

1631
01:39:00,900 --> 01:39:05,100
Covenant and Marta, basically
tells her that it forbids into

1632
01:39:05,100 --> 01:39:09,200
species relationships and Diana,
of course, you know, we're

1633
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,900
wearing a, you know, 21st
century Diana lat.

1634
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:15,000
She's like, that's crazy.
Like, who would even agree to

1635
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,900
that and, you know, Marty tells
her will, you know, there were a

1636
01:39:18,907 --> 01:39:23,300
lot more creatures back then and
we were pretty Used to taking

1637
01:39:23,300 --> 01:39:27,000
what we wanted.
So Philippe decided that, you

1638
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,700
know, if the species made it,
then it would upset the balance

1639
01:39:30,700 --> 01:39:33,300
of power.
So, these rules were created,

1640
01:39:33,500 --> 01:39:35,400
you know, to kind of keep things
in place.

1641
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,600
And Diana, says, what happens,
what's the punishment?

1642
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:41,400
If it, if the rules are broken
and martyrs, like far, as I know

1643
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:45,800
the rules of never been broken,
so they're pretty much the first

1644
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:50,700
and then Matthew and his mother
walked back in and You know, he

1645
01:39:50,700 --> 01:39:53,500
tells her he was like Domenico
is gone.

1646
01:39:53,500 --> 01:39:56,000
The congregation won't be
sending in one else and when she

1647
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:57,900
asked why he's like because
we're not going to break the

1648
01:39:57,900 --> 01:40:02,400
Covenant and of course.
I understand he's doing this for

1649
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:03,900
her protection.
But again, diet.

1650
01:40:03,900 --> 01:40:06,000
It doesn't look at it that way.
She was like, okay, here he

1651
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,900
goes.
Trying to control my life again.

1652
01:40:07,900 --> 01:40:10,100
So you just gonna give up like
she starts.

1653
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,500
She's ready to fight at this
point.

1654
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,600
She's like, so you just going to
give up that, that's just it.

1655
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:20,500
And he was like, you know, he
starts trying to push her away.

1656
01:40:20,700 --> 01:40:25,100
He basically does the whole, you
know, you don't know me.

1657
01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:26,300
You didn't know me three weeks
ago.

1658
01:40:26,300 --> 01:40:28,700
You don't know what I'm capable
of, you know, trying to pull the

1659
01:40:28,700 --> 01:40:30,700
oh, I'm the big bang murder a
person, you don't want.

1660
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:32,300
Be in love with me blah blah
blah blah.

1661
01:40:32,300 --> 01:40:36,300
She was like yo, my magic didn't
start doing what it's doing

1662
01:40:36,300 --> 01:40:39,600
until we got together.
We are bound together.

1663
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,000
I love you.
And he kind of stops then

1664
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:46,300
because it's kind of like you
don't know what to do at this

1665
01:40:46,300 --> 01:40:48,200
point.
Like you want to push her away,

1666
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,300
but she just, I mean the the
chick you been craving for the

1667
01:40:51,308 --> 01:40:54,000
last couple of weeks, just told
you that she loves you.

1668
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,000
He's like, I don't know what to
do with that.

1669
01:40:56,200 --> 01:41:02,800
I just thanks she tries to get
him to admit the same.

1670
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,500
She was like, not thinking about
the congregation, not thinking

1671
01:41:06,500 --> 01:41:08,500
about the Covenant.
How do you feel about me?

1672
01:41:08,500 --> 01:41:09,800
He was like, you know, how I
feel about you.

1673
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,300
She was like, no, I want you to
say it when she said say it.

1674
01:41:12,300 --> 01:41:14,600
I was like, I went back into
Twilight.

1675
01:41:15,100 --> 01:41:18,700
That was that was it were trying
to give him a vampire.

1676
01:41:19,700 --> 01:41:25,300
I was like, oh really, but you
know and yeah I heard there was

1677
01:41:25,300 --> 01:41:32,800
Brownstone like you love me but
is at that exact moment that he

1678
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:36,400
gets a phone call and I'm
guessing it's from Matthew or

1679
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:40,300
Miriam and they're basically
telling him that the lab has

1680
01:41:40,300 --> 01:41:43,800
been broken into and so he needs
to go back to Oxford something

1681
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,300
else we didn't.
Mention early in the episode is

1682
01:41:46,300 --> 01:41:51,000
that Sylvia and Jillian had a
conversation and Sylvia

1683
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,400
basically told Julian.
Will Peter Knox wants to know

1684
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:57,200
more about Matthew and wants us
to find out everything that we

1685
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,300
can.
So I'm assuming it's the witches

1686
01:41:59,300 --> 01:42:03,600
that broke into the lab, but
Matthew gets ready to leave.

1687
01:42:03,900 --> 01:42:06,800
Diana tries to go with him and
he's like, no, you're not going.

1688
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:13,500
You're staying.
Isabel asked him to reconsider

1689
01:42:13,500 --> 01:42:17,700
and he's, like, Mom.
And he's like, I need you.

1690
01:42:17,700 --> 01:42:19,700
I need her to stay here.
And I need you to protect her.

1691
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:23,600
I need you to protect her with
your life and Isabel agrees, and

1692
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:28,300
he leaves and Diana follows
after him.

1693
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:34,900
And she's crying and what
happens is and she starts

1694
01:42:34,900 --> 01:42:37,400
crying.
Once once one of her tears, hits

1695
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:42,900
the ground like the bottom falls
out of the sky and Isabel and

1696
01:42:42,900 --> 01:42:48,700
Marta come out and they realized
that Diana is actually causing

1697
01:42:48,900 --> 01:42:52,100
the rain.
Like you can see the waves of

1698
01:42:52,100 --> 01:42:57,000
magic coming off of her and then
just as they realize that she's

1699
01:42:57,000 --> 01:43:00,600
causing it to rain.
You see another Wave of magic.

1700
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,900
And then all of a sudden, the
rain starts reversing and it

1701
01:43:03,900 --> 01:43:08,700
starts going back into the sky
and then the episode cuts and

1702
01:43:08,700 --> 01:43:11,600
I'm like, wait, so she's
powerful enough.

1703
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:15,500
She can control the weather now,
like, see.

1704
01:43:15,500 --> 01:43:20,800
So now she's like, we have, what
was the first one that she did

1705
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,400
the wind?
And now we got water now.

1706
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:28,900
So, next week, fire and Earth is
listless, right?

1707
01:43:29,300 --> 01:43:36,500
She's under exactly.
She's the Avatar, it's anger.

1708
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:45,200
But I mean, if Matt is a lot of
times when it comes to Magic,

1709
01:43:45,500 --> 01:43:49,500
you know, some magical beings
they can only control like one

1710
01:43:49,500 --> 01:43:53,300
element, one specific element,
given the fact that she's

1711
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,500
already learned how to control
to excuse me.

1712
01:43:56,700 --> 01:43:59,200
No, she has it too.
She doesn't know how to control.

1713
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:04,600
But she has her magic can access
to it to it.

1714
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,200
She's even more powerful than we
thought.

1715
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:12,500
That's the also can do do
mental, Step 2, because

1716
01:44:12,500 --> 01:44:15,800
see-through was no I'm not
excited right here, right?

1717
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:20,300
He was right.
Um, so yeah, we've got wind

1718
01:44:20,300 --> 01:44:25,300
water and spirit right there.
It is heart.

1719
01:44:25,500 --> 01:44:27,200
This heart.
No no stand.

1720
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:30,200
Now if she combines of this she
turned to Captain Planet, so

1721
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,000
she's going to be mignone.
She's gonna be little Dallas

1722
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:42,700
multipass e, but she So at this
point, you gotta fuck with the

1723
01:44:42,700 --> 01:44:57,000
wrong which
we talked about this before.

1724
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:02,500
The, the worst that the worst of
the the most dangerous magical

1725
01:45:02,500 --> 01:45:06,100
beings are wildlings, who don't
really know how to control them.

1726
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:09,000
Magic.
And she has access to that much

1727
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,400
magic and can't control it.
That's going to be a problem for

1728
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,300
everybody.
Yeah, especially as emotional as

1729
01:45:15,300 --> 01:45:17,100
she is, but she's all over the
place.

1730
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:23,500
And then, you know, Matthew is
just, I know Matthew thinks he's

1731
01:45:23,500 --> 01:45:26,100
doing what's best for her.
I get that.

1732
01:45:26,100 --> 01:45:28,000
I understand that we already
know.

1733
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:32,200
This is not, he's not going to
be able to be steadfast in this

1734
01:45:32,300 --> 01:45:35,200
especially now that she is
revealed her feelings for him.

1735
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:38,000
Yeah, you already told the
congregation.

1736
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,000
Fuck you.
You might as well go all the way

1737
01:45:40,700 --> 01:45:44,500
at this point I think is this is
temporary solution to this

1738
01:45:44,500 --> 01:45:46,400
temporary problem.
Like okay.

1739
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:50,100
I need the current decently off.
Some of the alpha flag.

1740
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:53,100
This congregation thing is
situated and they will be about

1741
01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:59,100
that business.
About that business about that

1742
01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:04,900
business.
Like, if it's crazy because I

1743
01:46:04,900 --> 01:46:07,500
know we went over everything in
the episode and I still feel

1744
01:46:07,500 --> 01:46:11,900
like we missed something this so
much, that they are packing into

1745
01:46:11,900 --> 01:46:20,100
these episodes and it's it's I
don't even know, I don't even

1746
01:46:20,100 --> 01:46:21,300
know what I want to say right
now.

1747
01:46:21,300 --> 01:46:26,100
Like, is there so much like?
I feel like they're there shows

1748
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:29,800
where you're watching and you
can get so much information in

1749
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:33,100
episode and feel still feels
like something is missing.

1750
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:36,400
I don't feel that way with this
show, like they're giving us so

1751
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:40,300
much in again with the layers.
We're getting all these

1752
01:46:40,300 --> 01:46:42,700
different things and we're
getting all of this different

1753
01:46:42,700 --> 01:46:47,500
information that is coming, you
know, coming to fruition.

1754
01:46:47,900 --> 01:46:50,900
In The Following episode, in The
Following episode, like like

1755
01:46:50,900 --> 01:46:54,600
they're consistently building
and I'm just like, if they can

1756
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:58,200
do this and a episodes.
Can you imagine what this story

1757
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:03,200
would be like if they had 10 or
if they had 13, you know, or if

1758
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:07,600
it was like a network show and
they had 22 like this is what

1759
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:13,400
they can do in Eight Episodes
and The thing with a lot of a

1760
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:18,500
episode shows, sometimes they
feel slow when they start out

1761
01:47:18,500 --> 01:47:21,600
and then they kind of rush to
fill in everything in the last

1762
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:25,500
few episodes.
Or sometimes they tell the

1763
01:47:25,500 --> 01:47:30,500
story, but you feel like they're
not telling enough like, they're

1764
01:47:30,500 --> 01:47:33,500
still so much to unpack, and
they just kind of leave things

1765
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:36,300
unfinished.
I don't get that feeling at all

1766
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:41,000
with this show and haven't since
the first episode, like, I feel

1767
01:47:41,700 --> 01:47:45,200
You know, we talked we talked
about it a couple episodes ago.

1768
01:47:45,500 --> 01:47:51,100
I feel like I've been sitting
down at a gourmet meal and I'm

1769
01:47:51,100 --> 01:47:57,800
getting full with every course.
You know, it's just yeah, I'm

1770
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:02,500
like so in love with this show.
It's really annoying and it's

1771
01:48:02,500 --> 01:48:05,700
like they do put a lot of like
little things in it.

1772
01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:08,900
Like when they first started
dancing me for started dancing

1773
01:48:08,900 --> 01:48:12,300
with Diana and there were
stumbling usable yells.

1774
01:48:12,300 --> 01:48:17,400
Let him lead and it's not easy.
But as soon as she leaves, she

1775
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:20,500
said they started going, they
started blending together and

1776
01:48:20,500 --> 01:48:22,800
dancing together and then her
magic started glowing.

1777
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:27,200
So I think that's a that's the
Where she can actually learn to

1778
01:48:27,900 --> 01:48:32,000
learn to trust him.
So yeah, she's The Last Dragon

1779
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:38,000
siglo exactly.
You are done that.

1780
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,100
I think we need to keep track of
all the pop culture references.

1781
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:51,900
We make when we're talking about
because I really was and is

1782
01:48:51,900 --> 01:48:55,400
really like, it doesn't leave
holes and that's really hard to

1783
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:59,700
do in writing like just keep to
continue like to write it and

1784
01:48:59,700 --> 01:49:01,500
then go over and be like, oh we
forgot this.

1785
01:49:01,500 --> 01:49:04,500
This put this in real quick, but
it's like they're not a lot of

1786
01:49:04,500 --> 01:49:09,600
holes in it and either of these
episodes and unlike cursed,

1787
01:49:09,900 --> 01:49:15,600
which it took almost a whole
season for the writing to, to

1788
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,400
get to that level.
Right?

1789
01:49:17,500 --> 01:49:21,000
So, it's like, we can first
couple of episodes.

1790
01:49:21,300 --> 01:49:24,000
The Writers seem to know exactly
what they were doing.

1791
01:49:24,300 --> 01:49:26,500
Yeah.
He knew exactly how much to give

1792
01:49:26,500 --> 01:49:29,700
us how much the whole back in
this been.

1793
01:49:29,900 --> 01:49:31,900
It's been really good.
And I think it's going to pay

1794
01:49:31,900 --> 01:49:36,600
off in the end what I think too.
I think the good thing about

1795
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:40,800
this show is that the author of
the books that the show is based

1796
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,000
on.
I believe she is a consultant on

1797
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:47,700
the show and she does work very
closely with the writer.

1798
01:49:47,700 --> 01:49:52,300
She works with the cast.
She's actually doing some promos

1799
01:49:52,300 --> 01:49:56,900
on social media right now.
You know, and in anticipation of

1800
01:49:56,900 --> 01:49:59,900
the second season coming in.
So on Monday is now she's

1801
01:49:59,900 --> 01:50:03,900
posting like set photos and
she's talking a little bit about

1802
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:08,500
the experience bringing the book
to the screen.

1803
01:50:08,700 --> 01:50:12,200
So, that's, that's an
interesting thing to find out.

1804
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:16,500
If you can go to her Instagram
or excuse me, her, well, her

1805
01:50:16,500 --> 01:50:19,000
Instagram, her Twitter, or her
Facebook page, Deborah,

1806
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:23,400
Harkness, you'll find a lot of,
like interesting tidbits that

1807
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:27,000
she's been posting from the set
and Is talking about the

1808
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:31,800
product, the process from
getting it from the page to the

1809
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:36,000
screen.
And she seems to be really like

1810
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:40,700
behind this project.
And you know, sometimes when it

1811
01:50:40,700 --> 01:50:43,800
comes to adaptations you don't
you don't see that a lot.

1812
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:49,100
You know, it's we hear a lot of
times where the authors are not

1813
01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:53,300
necessarily behind the projects
or they feel like the projects

1814
01:50:53,300 --> 01:50:58,700
are not meeting the Standard
that they had or, you know, set

1815
01:50:58,700 --> 01:51:02,500
for their books, but I don't get
that with this series and I

1816
01:51:02,500 --> 01:51:06,400
think it helps a lot because, of
course, if the writers have

1817
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:09,500
questions about what the
characters were do or if the

1818
01:51:09,500 --> 01:51:13,100
actors have questions about how
a character will behave, in a

1819
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:16,800
particular situation or a
particular scene, they can go

1820
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,300
straight to the source and kind
of get some insight.

1821
01:51:19,300 --> 01:51:21,900
And I think that probably also
makes the show better.

1822
01:51:21,900 --> 01:51:26,500
Because you've got the person
who created this, All right here

1823
01:51:26,700 --> 01:51:30,800
and she's supporting this show
and what they're doing with her

1824
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:36,400
characters and that I think you
know, enhance has the story that

1825
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,700
we're being told and we can see
it because, like I said from,

1826
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:45,000
from the first episode, this
show has kept me interested, you

1827
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:50,000
know, and that's, that's kind of
hard to do with the eighth

1828
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:54,400
episode series, you know,
sometimes it, just sometimes it

1829
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:55,600
works.
And sometimes, sometimes it

1830
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:57,500
doesn't.
And this is one of those shows

1831
01:51:57,500 --> 01:52:01,100
where it definitely works.
I wish we could get some more

1832
01:52:01,100 --> 01:52:02,600
episodes.
That would be cool.

1833
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:04,900
But I mean, y'all are giving me
a lot.

1834
01:52:04,900 --> 01:52:07,700
Like, I'm literally sitting here
watching the episodes and I'm

1835
01:52:07,700 --> 01:52:10,300
like, oh my God, this is so
much, like, how we going to

1836
01:52:10,300 --> 01:52:13,900
remember to talk about this all
like, that's why I started doing

1837
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,400
like literally instead of taking
notes.

1838
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:18,200
Now.
I'm like, I'm literally riding

1839
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:21,900
out Recaps because there's so
much and then I go back and I

1840
01:52:21,900 --> 01:52:24,400
think about something that
happened in the episode and I'm

1841
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,900
looking at Oh, yeah, this
happening, you know, now being

1842
01:52:27,900 --> 01:52:32,300
able to go back like to the
episode 3 and seeing what we

1843
01:52:32,300 --> 01:52:35,900
talked about in episode 3 and
how is playing out at episode 4.

1844
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:39,800
I like being able to do that and
it's kind of easy to do that

1845
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:45,600
because the story has remained
solid and consistent consistent

1846
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:48,100
throughout the first four
episodes.

1847
01:52:48,100 --> 01:52:51,000
So I already like I'm not even
worried about the back four

1848
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:53,100
episodes because I read know.
We're about to get awesome

1849
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:55,300
story.
I know we're about To get a

1850
01:52:55,300 --> 01:53:02,600
whole shitload of information.
And, you know, it's it's great.

1851
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:03,900
It's amazing.
I love it.

1852
01:53:04,500 --> 01:53:06,700
I'm having so much fun with this
show like really?

1853
01:53:07,500 --> 01:53:11,000
Yeah, any final thoughts.
I thought it would.

1854
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:13,700
Yeah.
So, final thoughts.

1855
01:53:13,700 --> 01:53:18,900
Well, you know, well, you know,
I'm looking forward to seeing

1856
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:20,500
Cora discover.
Her.

1857
01:53:20,500 --> 01:53:22,700
New powers is the Avatar, you
know.

1858
01:53:26,900 --> 01:53:29,500
It was again.
This is against having these

1859
01:53:29,500 --> 01:53:32,300
questions answered.
How powerful is, she why is she

1860
01:53:32,300 --> 01:53:34,100
is powerful?
If she is, as she even

1861
01:53:34,100 --> 01:53:39,700
Reincarnation of the original,
which I mean, with where are we

1862
01:53:39,700 --> 01:53:41,600
going with this?
That's what I want to know.

1863
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:46,100
And as long as they keep me
interested in wanting to know

1864
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:50,600
more about with happening, the
more I'm going to keep watching

1865
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:53,400
the show.
I'm actually really interested

1866
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:59,400
now in sato's Journey because
she has, she has a lot.

1867
01:54:00,100 --> 01:54:03,200
She has more, I think she's way
more important to the story than

1868
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:07,100
we've seen so far and the fact
that she's powerful.

1869
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:10,000
She's that she is up.
She's a really powerful witch in

1870
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,500
her own, right, but she's gotten
own twice.

1871
01:54:12,900 --> 01:54:16,000
I feel like she's going to have
a breakout moment, where she's

1872
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:19,300
going to be the one owning
somebody and it's going to be a

1873
01:54:19,308 --> 01:54:21,600
surprise.
I'm also, I'm actually really

1874
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:24,700
Bested in Knox.
Now, because I really think that

1875
01:54:24,700 --> 01:54:29,600
he has, he has a lot of totems
or talismans, that will that

1876
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:31,300
help him General dark dark
magic.

1877
01:54:31,300 --> 01:54:33,900
So I'm really interested to see
what he played.

1878
01:54:33,900 --> 01:54:37,900
He pulls out if he pulls
anything else out and it be

1879
01:54:37,900 --> 01:54:42,400
he'll be, I wonder if I really
want to see like the the

1880
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:47,300
showdown between him and Diana.
Like even even though she's

1881
01:54:47,300 --> 01:54:49,600
probably going to, this probably
gonna be like The Last Dragon

1882
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:51,300
where she'll wear something
wear.

1883
01:54:51,700 --> 01:54:53,500
Now she's going to be like,
who's the master?

1884
01:54:53,500 --> 01:54:57,700
Which mr.
From her.

1885
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:04,400
I have a feeling knox's me.
I'm I'm glad magic to deal with

1886
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:10,000
her.
Yeah, he is definitely black

1887
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:13,100
yellow purple blue.
The other kind of magic.

1888
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:19,700
Because she's definitely if if
what we think about thought to

1889
01:55:19,700 --> 01:55:23,000
is true seeing kids to be there.
Seeing walking through that

1890
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:24,900
door.
Let's see.

1891
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,800
He's not going to be there form.
Nope.

1892
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:29,600
Nope.
Yeah, he's gonna be on his own.

1893
01:55:29,900 --> 01:55:31,700
Yeah.
She's right buddy.

1894
01:55:32,300 --> 01:55:37,200
All that smack you thought ever
crossed right handle that?

1895
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:40,200
Go ahead.
I feel a girl-power moment

1896
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:44,500
coming on.
I'm telling especially after

1897
01:55:44,500 --> 01:55:47,800
what Knox.
It's a her girls.

1898
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:50,100
Get it done.
Hey, I see it.

1899
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:54,200
I see it coming after whatnots.
Pull.

1900
01:55:55,300 --> 01:56:04,500
In the her, her a gaffer.
Actor Agatha said to Isabel and

1901
01:56:04,500 --> 01:56:07,300
whatever Sophie is bringing with
this Talisman.

1902
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:11,500
Yeah, I can see that.
That probably break up.

1903
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:17,300
All right.
Well, that's it for this

1904
01:56:17,300 --> 01:56:21,100
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1905
01:56:21,100 --> 01:56:26,000
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1906
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,400
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1907
01:56:29,500 --> 01:56:32,100
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1910
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