Fear the Walking Dead S8E5 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #243

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What's the Pirates?
Welcome back to another episode

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of The Phantom hybrid podcast.
This is hanako and I'm here with

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Casey and we are talking about
episode 5 of season, 8 of Fear,

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The Walking Dead, which is
probably the worst episode this

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season just because Grace dies.
And I'm so fucking pissed.

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Acting-wise it was a great
episode, she ain't get only one

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pissed.
Know, a lot of people are, you

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know what, I can't with you, I'm
not I'm glad it's finally over.

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I'm the last David to the Finish
Line.

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How do you combat that?
Oh yes.

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In that sense.
Yes.

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I understand that sentiment like
you are tired of seeing this

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woman go through so much.
I would have just like a little

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bit more time with her.
I would have loved for Morgan to

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be able to be with her after he
just got finished dealing.

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NG with the stuff from his past,
he needed to deal with.

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I would have loved for motive
been able to see with being

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around.
Real parents is like instead of

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being raised by Padre I'm just
like Yeah, I just had, you know,

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this Joan treatment, you know
how, you know, you know how you

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knew it was over in the very
beginning because when the show

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started, she had the little tie
priest Montage with the faded

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faded.
But clear background her looking

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up a tree.
I said, I'll see my bad.

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It's the Montage now, you
looking at reflected on your

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life girl, if you don't just
pass away.

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He's fanned you.
The Montage.

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Did it for me?
I was like, I meant.

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Okay.
Like I said, I look at the first

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two minutes.
All you see is trees, and is

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going past the men to show, you
know, how to eyes blink.

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So again, you re opening listen
to me.

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She was sick.
She couldn't.

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Okay.
Okay.

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No, no.
Okay.

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She probably could have been
saved by Jews treatment.

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Had most thought digging around
so you can eliminate your old.

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I'm sorry, little girl does not
eight years old.

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The stuff that she was doing in
this episode.

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Not to mention what we were
talking about in the last

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episode in this episode.
No, because you mean to tell me?

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Now she knows how to navigate
through the river.

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She knows exactly where she is
in order to get to where she

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needs to go to find this train
car.

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The shrike his own.
Ready.

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Said, she has moved Randall.
Yeah, she's a little, the little

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Pompey thing for the train out
of fucking skull but the little

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bumpy thing that to take up and
she spent all that time.

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When like, Grace literally told
you.

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This is what I want to do.
I want to go to this to this

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station and and live with you
and your dad for as long as I

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have and dada da and like even
I'm Morgan when he was fighting

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her on at first, you know?
He's so much.

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Oh, no, we can save you.
We can save you, we can save

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you.
And then once they realize that

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finches infection has come back,
which means the treatment most

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likely does it work and Morgan
is like, okay, you know what,

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we'll do what you want to do,
you want to spend your last

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remaining time with us?
Okay, we'll go ahead.

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Mo all of a sudden.
No, I can't lose, you know, this

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will work.
No, we're going to fight for

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what we want and that's why
we're going to win.

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I was like little girl.
Girl, if you don't sit your ass

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down.
If you'll sit down.

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And let the grown folks, Grown
Folk.

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Man they probably saved her.
If shrike again had left him the

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fuck alone left nothing soldiers
alone if Daniel.

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Well, I'm not going to blame
Daniel because Daniel was

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thinking about the safety of his
people.

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He was like, look, we don't have
the numbers, blah, blah, blah.

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I can't put my people in danger,
which understood and Grace was

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like, huh?
We're not going to do this.

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I'm not nobody else's risking
their life for me.

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She didn't even want Morgan and
Morgan was, he said that he

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liked the idea but it's one of
those things where it's like if

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you already know dang, it has
his own guilt to deal with years

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and years worth of it.
He don't need, you, don't need

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that on his conscience.
But God, did the way that tickle

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me, he got off the face.
I'm telling you this doggone

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shrike wet.
First of all, y'all keep

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communicating over these
walkie-talkies.

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And I realized that I have to go
to another Channel or something

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to another Channel, and then
just change back to the channels

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like every 10 minutes or so.
And let make her think that the

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conversation y'all having is the
conversation I said that to my

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yes, we're listening.
It's 12:00 1:00 when I there

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anymore.
Why do you think I put it on

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Wheels?
First of all I'm going to say

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this too.
Because shrike keeps talking

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about.
How she's trying to save the

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children, how she's trying to
make a better life for them.

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And if that other how can you
say, you are trying to save

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anybody, when you have someone
conducting medical experiments

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on the most sanitary surface,
you can the history of medical

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experiments?
That train like y'all have been

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asking, is he, y'all have been
operating and doing medical

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experiments for seven years.
You couldn't have somebody go

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over that train car once.
Making my arrows.

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Well because the thought is if
the Walkers are already infected

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they already grimy.
They blood is nasty and black

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and disgusting.
I'm clean over, but you trying

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to say people not the Walkers?
People still need clean,

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surfaces, they need germ, free
stuff.

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I mean, even if you can't
sterilize it, the way you would

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in a regular hospital but we
already know they're still Would

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be quit, been around because
Grace said in the last episode,

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when she started to feel sick,
she found a hospital and she

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tested herself and stats.
My she found out, she had

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cancer.
So we know they are Hospital

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still around this probably
equipment that's probably

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cleaning solution.
Y'all can't do it once over.

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Just once I mean they clean
something that's head is

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appendectomy. so, someone's
going This guy was playing after

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the surgery.
So anyway, so I'm continue

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talking about striking her
people because they getting on

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my last fucking nerves.
And I think we talked about, we

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talked about this in the episode
before how they get on my last

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nerves.
This water is already sick.

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She has a bite.
And your soldiers going to grab

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her and drag her from the car.
like, Y'all know?

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Why would you expect that?
That why would you bet it all?

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That's okay.
That's why they asked dead now.

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But I'm saying, why was it
knowing who striking?

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What did you expect that?
Why did you expect anything

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less?
I don't expect it.

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I'm just a selfish narcissistic
woman to think about nobody, but

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herself and whatever this plan,
she has formulated in her mind

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what this world to look like
with no parents.

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And only children who should now
earn their keep and figure out

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how to kill a thousand of
Walkers.

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And why would she think?
She don't care who get hurt.

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She don't care who lives who
dies long as it.

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Ain't her children's, like she
made that clear, was he sent

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them to?
It says she was when the guys

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with with Morgan and Daniel and
then wouldn't do it.

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I said, here's my fucking.
She like fuck them kids.

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So either way, is fine.
What she's not.

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What's that?
She don't give a damn.

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I'm trying to protect him.
You're so quick to be like

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because you got kid you ain't
even out here.

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You got kids out here hiding in
the woods patrolling with

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sticks.
If somebody really want to take

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them out there, fuck them
goddamn sense.

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They'll shoot you up and keep it
moving, because could you

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imagine them children against
the Reapers, the savior's, the

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anybody else that comes along
but you got the meek and Mild

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manner Daniel and his group of
parents who ain't going to hurt

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no kids because it might be one
of my kids and then you got

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Morgan.
You don't know who left.

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That's why she called out.
That's why she's been isolated

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for so long.
Especially if you're raising

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them the way.
That Padre is raising them those

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children.
I ain't raising no.

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But what I'm saying is, it's
kind of like, like I said, with

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the whole thing, those kids are
not going to reveal.

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Those kids are not going to
question your Authority.

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They're not going to question
whether or not you making stupid

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decisions, because all of us
adults, see that Padre, they

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making some hella stupid.
Visions, because we adults.

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Anyway, we'll talk more about
shrike because I like I said I

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got some things to say about her
but this episode and granted

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we've seen death episodes that
that last a whole episode or

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whatever.
I think the thing that really

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got to me was You have these two
people who love this person

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who's dying. and, I understand
them wanting to try to save her

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life.
But it's something shrike'd us

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say, one thing towards the end,
that kind of encapsulates that

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and it's that it's not about
what she wants, is about what

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you want.
Because this whole first part,

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like Grace is told them.
I don't want y'all to try to

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save me Jones treatment is not
going to work again.

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This is a person who has worked
with radiation.

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I think she would be the one to
listen to as much as you don't

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want me dead.
I don't want y'all to try this

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treatment.
It's a waste of time.

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Take me to these coordinates.
This is where I want to go.

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I want to, I want to spend
whatever time I can with you.

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She passes out, she wakes up,
she's on a boat.

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She's looking at them.
She's like, where are we going?

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Oh, we're going to the train
car.

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No, that is not what I wanted.
Like she is telling y'all and

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granite.
I understand from old moto,

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moto.
Understand this kind of thing.

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She don't understand this kind
of dynamic, I wish you.

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For Morgan.
I can understand especially

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considering you just got her
back and you don't want to give

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up on the hope that she can be
saved.

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But most people who are sick.
Especially that kind of sick.

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They know when they're closed.
Y'all shouldn't be telling you

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that for nothing, right?
Oh, nothing She don't want to

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spend her last days, whatever
running from folks, heck no its

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leash, right?
Doesn't know about this station

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that she has.
She got stood up.

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I don't know that was my thought
because she had coordinates and

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how do I ensure him them and of
them?

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I think they gave out, they
probably gave them the

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coordinates, because remember,
they were at the truck together

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when she gave them the
coordinates.

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So remember they were splitting.
No, seriously, they were

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splitting white and Sherry were
going to lead them away, so that

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they could go to the so that
they can go to the train car.

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I mean, trigger.
And that was probably like a

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back-up plan.
Okay.

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We can't make it to the train
car.

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This is the next best place we
can go.

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We can get June to come here.
Because that was the whole

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thing.
They're trying to get June

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because not only is Grace bit
Finch.

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Is getting worse.
Hey, he has a fever.

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His infection is starting to get
red again and yeah, so the

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infection is back.
So according to Jill, she may

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not have given him enough
radiation and the infection is

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coming back.
She may be able to treat it, she

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may not.
But again Again, I love Dwight

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and I understand Dwight is
worried about his child.

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I get that but you keep asking
June questions when she's

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telling you stuff like June is
being as straightforward as she

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can be.
She was just saying no false.

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Hope she's saying okay, if this
happens we might can do this if

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it.
What do you mean?

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Might?
What does that mean?

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It means what she mother fucking
said it means Mike's, it means

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that this is a treatment that
she developed under duress.

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One from having a gun pointed at
her head to the second time.

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Aren't you having been tortured
and had her finger cut off my

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fucking finger?
She was expected to develop this

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treatment and tweak it.
Almost immediately and under

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duress because she's trying to
keep your child from dying.

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So no, it's not going to be a
perfect treatment.

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Did it have some hope?
Yes.

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And did it work for a little
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Yes.
For a little bit.

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Yes, you got a few more days now
that's that's not to say that

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she can't get to him and do
whatever, but I'ma be honest, by

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the end of this episode Finch
was not the odds for Finch,

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we're not looking good.
Same way you don't have a

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montage - shut up.
You can't have a montage.

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We don't we haven't seen him in
enough, he don't even know, they

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don't have it.
He go.

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It's we'll have him sleeping.
A straight leg making her fall

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is going to have when he pulled
a gun on you.

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That was funny.
His boat Grace just wants to go

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to this.
I forgot what they call the

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relay station, whatever station
same house, she's telling most,

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you know, she was like I just
wanted us to go there, you know,

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over the years, I've been
collecting stuff for Padre.

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And I was collecting other
things too.

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And mo was like, for what, to
make a home someplace that we

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could go.
So, yeah, you know, where seven

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years, have gone by Grace, is
never given up the hope that her

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and Morgan and mo would ever be
able to get together.

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That makes it more sad.
Does she plan for Life After

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Padre?
What happens is the cards, the

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prefix, they start shooting off
flares over the river which

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means that they know that Morgan
Grace and mo are in the river.

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They know they're trying to go
to the train car and they're

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drawing Walker's towards them.
Now, they've also at this point,

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there are listening on the radio
and again these radios got some

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hella batteries from a range.
I couldn't hear anything.

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Or maybe because, you know, that
could be, that could be a super

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duper 30-mile range.
Thank you.

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Mom isn't that like for you, you
to be all Padre for them to get

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in the boat and take that boat
away from Padre.

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And you can still hear you.
Have you got the top of the

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line?
We want to go with it because

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other than that, it doesn't make
sense.

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But anyway, so I'm Morgan and
them are in the boat going going

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down.
The river with the flares going

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off in front of them.
This is where the white and

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Sherry realize that Finch is not
doing well because the prefix

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have chased them, they've gotten
away from them and he's not

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doing well.
So as they raise June on the

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radio, of course, Morgan is
heard the whole thing Morgan is

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like okay June, you have to go
to Finch.

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And Moe is sitting in the boat,
like, no, she has to come to the

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train car, they're like, no
baby.

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It finishes infection is back.
That means that June's treatment

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doesn't work.
That means that there's really

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nothing we can do for Mama Grace
right now.

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You know, so Morgan?
Of course, he starts feeling bad

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because he was like, I actually
just taking you where you want

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to go.
So anyway, like I said in the

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beginning, Oh, you mean what?
I say?

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So, he has to get off the boat
because again, the prefix are

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drawing more Walker's towards
their way.

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So he's going to try to draw
them away and he has this idea,

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okay?
We can't make it to the station

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that she wants to go to, but we
can go to the carnival, the

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place where he first encountered
Madison and Moe.

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Okay?
We can take her to the carnival

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if we You know we kind of fix it
up good.

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We should be able to last for a
little while.

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You know I unspoken words until
Grace dies they can do that.

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So you know where that is you
can go again.

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How long before you're staying
y'all got her a map but does it

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have Carnival listed on the map?
Does she even know where the

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carnival was?
Welcome your water.

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It was near water butt.
Okay you know what and now that

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I think about it, this is what
we probably should have done, we

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should have paused on that map
when they were showing where the

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railroad track was.
And look to see where it was.

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Hold on.
I'm you know what?

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We're going to do that right
quick.

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I'm about to cuz I'm about I'm
going to pause.

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Hold on.
I'm going to pause the keep

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that, okay?
Okay, so I have it on in the

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background now.
Now the map is folded.

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So it's like a middle part and
then like the end part, but

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there are clearly some cities
that you can see because MO is

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showing where the railroad track
is that the train cars on their

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Is cooler Garden City, Richmond,
Hills Richmond Hills.

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I just stayed in Richmond Hills
a month ago.

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That is on.
That is outside of Savannah.

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Uh-huh.
So if she's looking at the

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railroad tracks, the railroad
tracks goes down.

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Like yeah.
They're they're not too far from

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the east coast of Georgia.
So they are near Savannah.

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So again, it doesn't really make
sense because how the hell did

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they get way over there?
and when you make be able to

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make it from cooler to Atlanta
in one day, that's only as far

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as driving.
That's only like a

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two-and-a-half-hour drive.
It's only a

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three-and-a-half-hour.
Good one.

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Probably.
Right.

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But still depending on again, we
don't know if he walked the

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whole way.
He could have found a bike.

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He could have found a car.
He could have found some other

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mode of transportation.
He she he could have stolen a

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padre vehicle and drove it up to
a certain point.

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But what I'm saying is we don't
know.

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Sure that he walked the whole
way, right?

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But yeah, I'm sitting here
looking at this map.

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There's polar there's the
Savannah Airport Richmond Hills

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Keller Yeah.
Being Savannah or somewhere near

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it.
Tybee Island Jekyll Island, st.

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Simons Island, somewhere around
there.

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They got to be on one of those
islands.

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They have to be.
Because other than that, none of

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this other stuff makes sense.
And I'm looking at the way that

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the the way that these lines are
drawn on this map like you have

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the regular map lines and for
anybody who's listening to this,

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we're looking at the episode 11
minutes and it's at the 11

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minute marker, where Moe is
pointing out where the railroad

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line is.
So you have the regular map

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markings, but you also see all
of these drawings in black

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marker.
Probably like different paths

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that they've traveled through
Padre, whether it was Scavenging

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or whatever it is that they do
well but yeah.

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Even though.
Yes, we did move the show to

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Savannah.
They never confirmed with what

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area Padres and they got to be
close to Savannah.

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Just looking at this map.
Nah, those with where was the

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victims Tower?
Victor.

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All of that was in Galveston,
got to be awesome and Savannah,

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or if you look at If you look at
the squiggly lines, the black

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lines on the map.
It's going more so towards the

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west side of the state.
So again that would put our

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Theory at Southern Alabama,
Georgia, Florida in that

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particular area.
Because the the map the markings

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on the map that they have are
more in that area.

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So, yeah.
But they're clearly.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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She's showing his got to be
further down the line.

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It's yeah, they're near the
Georgia coast.

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That's how he was able.
We yeah, we said we did.

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Who dislike now.
Okay, we have it.

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I'm like I don't know why I
didn't think about that earlier.

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But yeah, when do I does looking
on it and Yeah, and and it's

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almost like they, they
purposefully had the map folded

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in such a way that you can't
tell specifically where they are

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or where they have been.
But again, all of those black

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markings they have been all over
the place.

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Hmm.
I'm sorry.

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Know, The Walking Dead.
Don't do shit on accident.

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They don't, they don't and the
the fact that there's not one,

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but two airports within that
vicinity, one of them has to be

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Savannah.
A airport.

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The other one, I don't know.
okay, so that awkward pause was

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Casey and I think So I do a
little detective work.

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It was where we had a clear view
of the coordinates that Grace

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wanted to go to.
So we have spent the last like

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10 minutes.
Trying to plug these coordinates

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into everything.
We came up with shit.

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So if anybody else can figure
this out where Grace wanted to

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go, if that's a real coordinate,
let me know but.

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Yeah.
Anyway going back to what we

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were talking about the math.
So yeah there they are somewhere

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in the middle.
South Georgia possibly near

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Savannah, possibly on the other
side where Alabama, Florida and

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Georgia, all kind of need those,
you know, those areas.

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So yeah, it's like okay.
They did give us a little bit to

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go on.
So we do know that they are

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definitely not in Texas, they're
not in Louisiana, they're not in

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any of those States.
They are closer to Georgia or in

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Georgia which makes it a little
bit more reasonable.

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That Morgan would have traveled
to King County.

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He was probably only a few hours
away from the shore.

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But anyway, all right.
Let's go back to the episode.

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So as we mentioned, Morgan
leaves off the boat to try to

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lead the Walkers away and leave
the prefix away from sharing the

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white so they can try to get
Finch to June.

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Okay, he tells Mo to take Grace,
back to the carnival where he

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met them, and he will meet them
there.

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He was like, I'll take the long
way around but I'll meet them

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there.
He you know, he gives his

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goodbye to Grace and he was
like, I'll see you again.

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I promise when he said, I
promise I said, oh yes and I

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because one thing you don't do
on the show as make promises

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don't make promises.
It's not going to happen.

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So anyway, Morgan does what he's
supposed to do.

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He calls more on radio, he's
like Moe.

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I'm where we were supposed to
meet.

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Where are you?
She's ignoring him.

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On the radio.
He's like, I think I know where

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you going.
I'm coming for you both I'm like

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little girl little girl
understand what you were trying

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to do because you are so sure
that this treatment is going to

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work that this treatment that
you didn't even know about it

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until a few days ago.
You are so sure it's going to

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work which I understand you're
desperate.

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This is you have home is the mom
that you just found.

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You want to have time to spend
with her.

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I get it.
I get it, I get it.

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But you are, that's not the way
to get it.

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That's not the way to get it.
You are an eight-year-old trying

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to get a sick and bitten person.
To a train car.

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That you're not exactly sure
where it is.

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No, apparently she found it.
She found the right, railroad

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tracks.
Like you said, she found her car

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and she's telling Grace, you
know, you'll understand when it

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works, it's going to work. which
means it's not Grace is trying

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to tell her, she's like look,
The prefix are going to find

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you.
They're going to take you back

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to Padre.
This is not what I want.

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Turn around, take me back, call
your father, call your father,

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raised your father on the radio,
walking him walking him and it

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hit come the prefix standing
there led by fucking dove.

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I'm like, boy, the brainwash is
so strong in this one.

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Padre is not a person.
It's an ideal idea.

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You thought Padre was a person
up until a few days ago.

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Do you not remember that?
The whole reason why you're

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pissed at your mom died is
because they stole you from her

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in the first place.
Not she gave you up.

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They stole you and if they could
take right she was trying to get

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you back.
It got killed in the process and

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not killed by Walkers killed by
Padre, folk to keep her from

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coming to get you.
But I will say this, she acts

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more like a child brought up by
Padre.

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The memo does because again Mo,
they have been giving her all of

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this knowledge, all of this, I
can get The Bravery, I can get

451
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,600
it.
And I get what she said to

452
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,800
Grace, when, you know Grace said
later on.

453
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,400
She was like you were so brave
back there.

454
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,000
Facing the the prefixing.
The lot less scary than losing

455
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,300
you.
Okay, I get up.

456
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:38,500
I get all of it. but again, you
have an eight-year-old who has

457
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:42,900
enough know how to roll you to a
place.

458
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:46,700
You're not supposed to.
You didn't want to go, she's

459
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:51,500
able to get you off of the boat
by herself.

460
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,400
Carry you and put you on this
little whatchamacallit.

461
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,200
And then she has the strength to
move this train car down the

462
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,200
tracks.
And then she can convince these

463
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,000
prefix who don't give a fuck
about her or anybody else.

464
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,100
But they're going to want to let
her go so she can save her mom.

465
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:21,800
They're not going to hurt and
they let her go long enough for

466
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,800
her to get on the train so they
can shoot the flares off again

467
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,700
and call Walker's to the train.
How is that working for you Mo?

468
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:37,900
there's just so like, Again,
that the way that they are

469
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:44,100
writing this little girl again,
she is supposed to be eight.

470
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:50,700
She is a character who has been
raised pretty much isolated from

471
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:56,400
the rest of the godforsaken
world on this island.

472
00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:01,900
Where she does not interact with
other adults except for the

473
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:09,200
people who were there.
She does not understand the

474
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,500
nuances of relationships or she
should not, because she's never.

475
00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:17,900
She's never had a healthy one
since she was a baby.

476
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:22,800
But yet she can figure all of
this out.

477
00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:25,800
To try to get Grace to help that
she needs.

478
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:31,000
And I understand a lot of that
is probably a motion and I get

479
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,800
it.
But there's only so much a

480
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,400
child, her age and size can do
you are not going to tell me

481
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,500
that you can carry a grown-ass
woman.

482
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:45,100
That is literally dead weight.
She's knocked out.

483
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:50,000
This is my little bit, she
helped walk a little bit.

484
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,400
For those of y'all.
Listen, I wish you could see my

485
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,800
face right now.
No, it does not make sense what

486
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,900
they are doing with her
character.

487
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,600
You know what I'm saying?
It's like they're trying to make

488
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:14,300
her I don't want to say it like
that because I don't want it.

489
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:17,800
I don't want it to be a
comparison of her and the other

490
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:24,800
young kid in this universe, but
like there are times with even

491
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,199
Judith, where Judith was a kid,
you know what I'm saying?

492
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:34,100
She acted like a kid.
Yes, she was wise Beyond her

493
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:37,500
years, but again, as we
discussed in the last episode,

494
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:41,800
Judith was raised in completely
different circumstances than MO.

495
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,199
Jared had people who loved her
who cared about her, who fought

496
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:51,400
for her, who protected her, who
made sure that she still had

497
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,699
some semblance of a childhood
right Mo.

498
00:34:55,699 --> 00:35:03,100
He's never had any of that.
So, this world wise child that

499
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:07,000
they're presenting to us.
It does not make sense.

500
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,900
Tell her.
Oh you remember that place?

501
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:14,200
We walk through with Madison
where I met you and Madison the

502
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,300
carnival.
Yeah, I remember it.

503
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,400
Do I remember how to get there?
No.

504
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,000
Why would I I don't even know
where the entry point was where

505
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000
we got there.
You know.

506
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,100
It's just like none of this is
making sense.

507
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:33,500
It's just and then we have to
deal with that.

508
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:38,300
On top of watching Grace died,
watching her last wishes, the

509
00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:41,900
basically ignored all the way up
until she gets on that table.

510
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,000
And then at that point, I think
she just started telling Mo What

511
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,900
mo needed to hear because in a
few minutes is not going to

512
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:52,900
matter.
I understand, I understand why

513
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:55,000
you did.
And yes, it made for some

514
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,500
Beautiful Moments between them
to.

515
00:35:56,500 --> 00:36:00,600
Because again, this is something
Mo has never had.

516
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,400
She's never had a mother be
loving to her.

517
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,300
She's never had a mother be kind
to her reassure.

518
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:12,300
Her try to try to protect her.
Even in this moment, Grace is

519
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:15,100
dying.
She is still trying to protect

520
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:17,500
Mo.
Once they realize that the

521
00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:21,700
treatment has not worked because
Grace ends up with a fever, they

522
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:23,600
realized the treatment hasn't
worked.

523
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:27,600
They radio Morgan Morgan is
trying to get back to them it

524
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,300
again.
Morgan is coming from way the

525
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:32,800
hill across wherever they were
supposed to go.

526
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,100
You've already you basically
have ensured that Morgan is not

527
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:39,700
going to get to say his
goodbyes.

528
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:45,000
Yeah, that's already obvious.
He's running nothing about, he

529
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,200
needs them.
When she got out their boat, he

530
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,100
wasn't gonna see her again.
That's why I can kiss the hand.

531
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:54,800
You're not going to see this
lady again.

532
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,500
But while they're sitting there
talking and they're giving their

533
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:03,000
goodbyes, and I'm telling you,
I'm sitting here when she's

534
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,200
telling, she's calling Morgan
my, my darling, my love and all

535
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,200
this stuff.
And I love you, girl, I'm

536
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,600
boo-hooing like a moth, walk you
here, still wasn't that your

537
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:17,000
your no?
No, yes, she's not going to see

538
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:22,700
him, but once once they said
that, the treatment didn't work

539
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:26,200
in June was telling her because
Mo was like, we can do it again.

540
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,000
Tell me.
And tell me how much to give her

541
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,200
June is like if we give her
another dose, now she's going to

542
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,100
die and mo was like, well, she's
not going to survive the bite.

543
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:38,300
She's going to die anyway.
So what did you tell her?

544
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:42,300
Enjoy?
The time you have left.

545
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,400
Don't sit.
And, you know what?

546
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,200
I'm sitting here thinking about
Sheree and black panther.

547
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,400
You're so busy trying to figure
out ways to prolong somebody's

548
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,800
life when they are at, when they
are on their deathbed dying

549
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,900
asking for you, you ignore it
because you're so focused on

550
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:05,900
trying to save them and then
when the moment passes, you

551
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:09,700
can't get that time back.
That's what everybody is trying

552
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:11,900
to tell me.
Look, I just want to spend time

553
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:14,800
with you look, just spend time
with her, say your goodbyes,

554
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,200
just do whatever.
And when she and Morgan are

555
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,700
having this conversation,
unfortunately, Morgan has to be

556
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:24,700
the one to say and he was like
you know, she's got to leave out

557
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:26,700
of there, right?
And that's what she tells

558
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:29,500
Morgan, she can't there's
Walker's outside.

559
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:33,600
That puts a little bit of fire
on the Morgans ass because he's

560
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,800
thinking, okay, you know what?
She can just leave out.

561
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,200
Leave leave Grace on the Train
car.

562
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:45,700
And then I guess at that point
Morgan was probably like I will

563
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,100
go ahead and come do this
because I do not want to see

564
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:50,800
another person that I love and
up in that state.

565
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,300
But now you, you should.
I look because they're trapped

566
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:58,600
and you on the other side of
town?

567
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,700
That's my question.
What was it?

568
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,700
What's your notice?
Just randomly, once you do, the

569
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:10,100
small talk was dying or about to
die, and you don't picked up,

570
00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:14,200
From the boat and picked up some
the try and why you extrapolate

571
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,900
A sly goddamn gun.
I just knew that was gonna be

572
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:21,200
the next step teii.
Everything baby was like oh,

573
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,300
just tired now.
So here's the first thing, one.

574
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:30,800
I don't think Moe has ever seen
anybody turn.

575
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:32,700
So she doesn't know what to
expect.

576
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:35,100
I don't think she knows what
precautions to take.

577
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,000
She wouldn't have even thought
about that and I think he's

578
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,800
every morning.
Everybody else is so focused.

579
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,500
On trying to get done, what
needs to be done.

580
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,300
Done.
I don't think anybody thinks

581
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:49,200
that because again Morgan
things.

582
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,300
Oh you could just get off the
train and leave her on the

583
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:54,800
train.
He's thinking that far ahead but

584
00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,200
no nothing to say, oh my God,
she needs to be strapped down

585
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,600
because I think at the point
where Grace said there's Walkers

586
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,800
outside Morgan's only thought
was to get some.

587
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,600
Oh, it's wrong.
You know what I'm saying?

588
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:17,300
Yeah, so that I understand the
other thing is when Grace tells

589
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:20,100
Mo I'm going to need you to do
it.

590
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,100
I really think that most thought
that she would be able to

591
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,800
because again, yes, this is her
mom.

592
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,100
This is also somebody, she
doesn't really have a close

593
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:35,900
emotional bond with yet.
She's just started to develop

594
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:38,800
that.
So you would think given the way

595
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,700
that she is, right?
She was raised and the

596
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:45,600
circumstances.
Now she might be just enough

597
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,600
detached to be able to do that
especially after what they just

598
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,700
went through.
Through watching Morgan.

599
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,100
The consequences of Morgan not
being able to do what he was

600
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,200
supposed to do.
He wasn't, he was supposed to

601
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,700
kill his wife's Walker.
He didn't his son ended up dying

602
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:08,500
as a result, he didn't kill his
sons Walker and mole almost died

603
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:11,200
as a result.
So she's probably in her mind

604
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,800
thinking.
Okay, I'm not gonna do what Dad

605
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,200
did I'm going to I'm going to
make sure that Mom doesn't do it

606
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,700
and you know, somebody commented
On Twitter about the fact that,

607
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:24,700
oh, you know, Grace turned into
minutes.

608
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:27,800
I don't think that was the case.
I think this was some time

609
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:34,900
because when Grace finally does
die Mo has the scalp or her

610
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:37,600
hand.
And they focus on showing that

611
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,800
scalpel in her hand for a few
extra seconds.

612
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:48,400
Then the second time, you look
up, Grace's head has turned.

613
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:55,000
So I think what happened was Was
mole turned Grace's head, so she

614
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:58,300
knew it in the back, but she
couldn't do it.

615
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,600
And in the third time, you see
Mo looking over Grace, she's all

616
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,700
the way.
On the other side of the table,

617
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:09,700
looking down at Grace, from the
left side, and she says, I'm

618
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:13,400
sorry Mom, I can't do it.
I think she had to have been

619
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,900
there for a while.
Hmm.

620
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,900
Well, that's because I'm Morgan
to get to her at the time that

621
00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:21,200
he got to her.
Her.

622
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,600
It had two, she had two men
sitting there for a while

623
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,200
because I think if it had been
yeah it had to have been a

624
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,700
while.
And she was probably sitting

625
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:35,500
there fighting with herself,
like I can do this, I can do

626
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:39,900
this again, thinking about what
they just went through with

627
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,700
Walker, Dwayne and what her dad
has gone through and what he has

628
00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:47,200
lived with for the last 10
years.

629
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,700
She's probably thinking oh, I
can do this, I can do this.

630
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:54,400
Like, this is kind of, sort of a
little bit of what Padre has

631
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,700
trained her for, don't be
emotionally involved on being

632
00:42:57,700 --> 00:42:59,200
emotionally for this different
way.

633
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,100
You know, the person, Right?
And I think that's the thing.

634
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:07,000
She didn't anticipate because it
again, how could she?

635
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,500
She's never grown up with this
kind of connection.

636
00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:11,900
So, she didn't understand how
that was going to affect her.

637
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,400
And I think all of those things
she didn't think her, but she

638
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,000
didn't look at her mom and
think.

639
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,100
Oh, I need to strap her down
before she comes back.

640
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:23,400
She's never seen the chain.
She doesn't know how that

641
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,500
happens, you know, and honestly,
if she had gone and sat in the

642
00:43:28,508 --> 00:43:33,400
corner, And just been quiet
until Morgan got there.

643
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,900
Grace probably wouldn't have
even reanimated because if you

644
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,500
if you remember looking at
Walker's on the other show like

645
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,900
the beginning of season, 11 for
The Walking Dead when they were

646
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,300
when they were coming down the
lines into that Army Surplus to

647
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:53,400
get the food.
All those walkers have been

648
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,200
there dormant and it wasn't
until the little dust and the

649
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,200
blood from Darrell's finger that
they animated and we've seen

650
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,500
that with other walkers and
other shows we saw.

651
00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:08,300
We saw it in the world Beyond
we've seen it, you know, time

652
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:11,100
and time again.
If the walkers have no

653
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:14,500
stimulation around them that
just going to sit there and

654
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:16,700
they're just going to be dead
that just going to be whatever.

655
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:20,900
But when you see them walkers in
the cars, that's been

656
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:23,600
vegetating, and somebody walks
past.

657
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,100
That's when they're like oh
wait, there's something going

658
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:28,900
on.
She could have went and sat in

659
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:33,900
the corner and then good maybe
not for too long because you do

660
00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:37,400
have Walker's outside trying to
get in the window and that

661
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,500
probably would walk in Grace up,
but she probably would have had

662
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:42,600
a little more time.
And she wouldn't have had to go

663
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,200
through the traumatic experience
that she went, through of Grace,

664
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:51,300
waking as a walker and trying to
kill her.

665
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:59,700
And it just so happens that
Morgan was able to get to her in

666
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:02,900
time.
But I mean, think about it, even

667
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:05,400
when Grace was trying to come at
her, she was fighting her off.

668
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,500
And then, right towards the end,
right before Grace, was able to

669
00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:13,900
get to her, she kept saying,
mom, stop mom stop.

670
00:45:14,300 --> 00:45:16,500
So it's like even at her mind,
at some point.

671
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:19,300
She knows it's not there
anymore, but still, it's kind of

672
00:45:19,308 --> 00:45:20,800
like Mom.
It's me.

673
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,200
Don't do.
This you know kind of like um

674
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:29,300
because I remember she's reading
something somewhere, some some

675
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:32,300
point in time where they were
talking about how when Shane

676
00:45:32,300 --> 00:45:36,500
turn they were going to have him
talk, say Rick or some shit.

677
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,700
Same thing, huh?
I said that would have been

678
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:45,400
weird.
Yeah, but if I mean for that

679
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:51,900
time, it probably having him
talk might have been Weird.

680
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:55,200
But given the amount of time,
given how quickly Shane turn

681
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:00,500
because Shane did turn quit
Maybe.

682
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,100
So this was the, the question
that other people have had and

683
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:10,500
we saw with the governor.
Do they retain anything of the

684
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:13,900
person that they were when they
turn?

685
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:18,300
Now, we saw a little bit of it
with Penny because there were

686
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:21,800
times when he would sit there
and calm Walker Penny's hair and

687
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,200
she would actually calm down,
she would be just like, you

688
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,700
know, a child.
Yeah.

689
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:33,600
Jenny why did Jenny keep going
up the same house?

690
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:39,000
Because even in, even in last
week's episode Morgan said, she

691
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,400
kept coming back.
I don't know if it was that she

692
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,600
heard us or that she smelled us
but it's So strange that she

693
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,400
kept coming back to the same
house, even in the first

694
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,000
episode, where we saw her walker
when Rick was looking out the

695
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,300
peephole, okay.
You know, if you're looking at a

696
00:46:54,308 --> 00:47:00,600
peephole from outside, you see a
pinpoint of a DOT and you might

697
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,100
see some light move behind it,
but they were already in the

698
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:06,500
dark only being illuminated by
candles.

699
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:10,900
So it's not like there was that
much light but Jenny had a sense

700
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:13,800
she would look and she would do
this.

701
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,900
And that's what she would walk
up the stairs and try the door

702
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:20,200
knob.
That's why even back then.

703
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,800
I was like, I have a feeling
they're still a little bit of

704
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,500
what they have.
Don't you even remember in the

705
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:32,700
Tails episode Anthony Edwards,
when he was tracking the one

706
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:39,100
Walker, he was like that was his
specimen because he thinks that

707
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:43,800
this particular Walker has some
memory retention.

708
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,700
Even after being turned.
So the theory has been played

709
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:55,000
around with that is possible to
do it but but Grace wouldn't

710
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,500
know that.
You know what I'm saying?

711
00:47:56,500 --> 00:48:00,400
So that just kind of she just
reverted back to that Basic

712
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,200
Instinct.
Mom, this is Mom, she's my mom

713
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,300
she's not going to hurt me and
she did that in her fear which

714
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:12,400
is so sad because and is one of
the is one of the only times

715
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,800
that I feel like They portrayed
her.

716
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,700
As her age, they portrayed her,
as the kids, she supposed to be.

717
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:22,600
Because again, all of this other
stuff that she's been doing, she

718
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,000
has not had enough exposure to
the rest of the world to the

719
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,400
rest of her circumstances,
right?

720
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,300
Could be doing the things that
she's doing.

721
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:35,400
Now, her listening to June and
and doing what she told her to

722
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,400
do as far as the treatment,
okay?

723
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,900
Anybody can follow directions
that part I'm not bothered by

724
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:43,700
you know because of June says
Okay.

725
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:45,900
So So you're going to, you're
going to grab this thing and it

726
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:48,200
looks like this and you're going
to turn this but that's not

727
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,300
something hard for her to do,
right?

728
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:53,700
Her being able to navigate down
the river, and go to the place

729
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:58,800
that y'all met and all the stuff
that to me is very unrealistic.

730
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:04,100
Bracket, hold to the train
companies.

731
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:08,300
In all of that to me is very
unrealistic for a child.

732
00:49:08,300 --> 00:49:14,300
Who is supposed to be eight.
Again, has been raised isolated

733
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,800
and without all of the other
stuff, right?

734
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:24,700
I think these last scenes with
her and Grace has been the most

735
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:30,100
realistic.
Did they have had her portray or

736
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:34,400
her character?
And it added so much to the

737
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,400
scenes because you have these
two characters here.

738
00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:40,800
You have the one character who
can't get to them and they're

739
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,100
all conflicted.
They all know that the end is

740
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:45,700
about to come and they're all
dealing with it in their own

741
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:48,000
ways.
Moe was starting to feel guilt

742
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,600
because she was like, I should
have just did what you wanted.

743
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:54,300
I, you know, I should have went
with dad told me I robbed you

744
00:49:54,300 --> 00:49:57,900
guys from your time together.
Either, you know, and then

745
00:49:57,900 --> 00:49:59,300
that's when Grace.
Okay?

746
00:49:59,300 --> 00:50:04,100
So like this was the part that
had me sock, like, ugly cry

747
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:08,500
sobbing.
When she tells Mo, you didn't,

748
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:12,100
you didn't do much.
You actually saved us and she

749
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:16,400
was like, there was a time long
ago when things were Bleak and

750
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,000
your father and I were going to
end things.

751
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,600
Do you know what stalked us it
was you.

752
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,000
We heard you cry and you see the
flashes from that episode?

753
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,600
Would they?
Are about to commit suicide and

754
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,600
I'm just Ballin, Ballin Ballin
Ballin like, oh my gosh, she is

755
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,800
about to die at this point.
Like, you basically just gave

756
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:43,100
that child, probably the best
gift that you can give her in

757
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:46,800
the circumstance to let her know
that you are, the reason we are

758
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,700
still here.
You were the reason we had more

759
00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:53,700
time because that would have
been it for Morgan and Grace's

760
00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:56,400
story, and they didn't even
really get to have much of A

761
00:50:56,408 --> 00:51:01,200
story to that point, right?
So for her to be able to tell

762
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,400
her this and give that to her
and then she died.

763
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,100
I was just like y'all fucking
make me sick, y'all make me

764
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:14,700
sick, but then I was hoping
Beyond hope that this child will

765
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:17,100
go through.
I did not want to see grace come

766
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:20,600
back as a walker.
I feel like it, especially as

767
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:25,500
much as we've seen it in this
universe, if you have the

768
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:31,000
opportunity, To keep your loved
one from doing that.

769
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,300
I feel like that's what you're
supposed to do is one of the

770
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:40,300
reasons why it pissed me off so
much that they allowed on the

771
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:46,500
main show for Eric to just walk
off and join a herd with Aaron.

772
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:49,500
Not taking care of that because
if you have someone that you

773
00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:54,400
love, you aren't supposed to let
them do that, call said it so

774
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,200
many times he had to do that
with.

775
00:51:56,300 --> 00:52:00,300
Glory, you know, Spencer had to
do that with Deanna.

776
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,500
They had to do it with Sasha,
you don't, you don't let these

777
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:07,700
people turn unless it's a
circumstance that you can't

778
00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:11,000
control.
And then when you can or when

779
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,300
you have to, then you have to
put that person.

780
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:18,500
Now, she didn't, she didn't have
to turn, but again, we can't

781
00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:23,600
expect an eight-year-old to be
able to have that kind of

782
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:29,300
Bravery maturity, whatever to be
able to say.

783
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:31,600
Okay, you know what?
Yes, I'm about to stick this

784
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,700
knife in my mama's head,
especially someone that she just

785
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:37,900
recently connected with.
Like I said, you would think

786
00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:40,000
that she would have been
detached enough, because they

787
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,000
didn't have a lot of time
together, but that goes to show.

788
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:48,000
I think just how in that small
amount of time, Grace was able

789
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,100
to work her way into most heart
and not only Grace, but Morgan

790
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:55,800
too.
Just for it to go to shit

791
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,000
because Grace had, I mean Morgan
has to come in he has to kill

792
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,600
Walker Grace to save Mo and then
Here Comes shrikes bitch ass.

793
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,900
I was like Morgan if you don't
go outside and kill this bitch.

794
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:15,000
Yeah like y'all literally just
killed Grace here, you come with

795
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,900
emails staff.
That Morgan ended up using Oh, I

796
00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:22,400
thought we didn't have to come.
I thought we were going to have

797
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,800
to come in there.
Your brain.

798
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,500
Morgan was like look, can't we
just bury her in peace and you

799
00:53:27,500 --> 00:53:32,000
leave us alone.
She won't even grant them that

800
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,200
much.
And then, you know, she starts

801
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,900
talking about Oh she starts
talking about what she's going

802
00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:42,000
through.
That's what I've been trying to

803
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,300
protect them from.
She doesn't ever have to feel

804
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:45,800
that.
You know, I could kill you right

805
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,900
now Morgan.
But she's already lost one

806
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:49,900
parent today.
I'm like bitch.

807
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,500
Not seeing you pick up anything
to kill anybody in any of these

808
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:56,500
episodes.
We have.

809
00:53:56,500 --> 00:54:00,000
We've seen you in and you want
to talk about using to kill

810
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,700
Morgan.
Yeah.

811
00:54:01,700 --> 00:54:03,700
Okay.
The edge please.

812
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:08,000
But as so, while Morgan is seen
here trying to take care.

813
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,900
Of this, of course, you got the
prefix down here, Mo is on the

814
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:15,400
train.
Looking at Grace, and I could

815
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,300
tell, something was changing
just, by the way, she was

816
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:21,300
looking at Grace because where
she was looking at Grace with

817
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:23,400
sadness, when Morgan was on the
train.

818
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:26,400
By the time, he got ready to get
off the train, she was looking

819
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,000
at Grace with something, totally
different.

820
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:32,000
And then she tells which she
comes off the train and she

821
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,200
tells Morgan, she was like Dad
stop.

822
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:37,200
She was like, she's right.
I don't want to feel this way

823
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,800
anymore and Morgan's life.
She can't, she can't turn off

824
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,900
your emotions and I think what
was like, was she literally

825
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:46,200
taught me how to do that for
seven years.

826
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,200
I wasn't this lift up and now
I'm hurting because I just lost

827
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,200
this person.
So yeah, I don't want to do this

828
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,100
shit anymore.
You know what, what you need

829
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:56,600
done?
Why do you need me?

830
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,400
Why do you need, like, why were
you, why are you trying to get

831
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,700
into the rail rail yard?
And she's like, oh, we have

832
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:06,700
everything that we need to
rebuild, but there's thousands

833
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:10,300
of carrying there.
That wasn't thousands of carry

834
00:55:10,300 --> 00:55:11,900
on there when you and your
brother were there.

835
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:15,700
So why didn't y'all get that
shit off before?

836
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:19,100
But no.
Now you now you want Morgan and

837
00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:23,100
you want his friends to go and
clear and then Mo was like, we

838
00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:28,300
can do it, I can do it.
I was like, look down ma'am.

839
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:32,400
I was like, look, girl if you
don't sit your ass down and then

840
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,600
of course she goes to dove in
the rest of the prefix.

841
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:37,400
We can do it, we can clear.
That's the way.

842
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,200
That's what they've been
training us to do all these

843
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,900
years.
I was like, don't you be using

844
00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:44,600
your daddy's turn?
To talk about what you bout to

845
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,800
do for this.
But I was I mean I understand my

846
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,800
dear Mama just died.
Your daddy's just had to come

847
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,000
save you.
Now all of a sudden you super,

848
00:55:55,100 --> 00:56:00,300
Super 8 year old and gone go get
your little couple friends and

849
00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:02,800
y'all gonna go kill a thousand
workers, okay?

850
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,900
So I'm sure it's not just gonna
be her in those preface.

851
00:56:06,900 --> 00:56:12,100
I know they have a lot of kids
and at that point I feel like

852
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,500
Moe is angry.
Absolutely.

853
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:19,000
She's angry and she sad and
she's hurt.

854
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,500
And she needs an outlet for
that.

855
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,100
So I understand that but she
needs to go to the other show

856
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:27,000
and find out what her could have
been aunt.

857
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,700
Michelle unti Michonne says what
she's see.

858
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:34,900
What Hangar was stupid.
Get you killed please don't

859
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:38,600
please don't go down that route.
But of course at this point most

860
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,100
determined she has basically cut
Morgan off now.

861
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:44,900
She was like Like he's pleading
with her.

862
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,200
She has ignored him.
She's not paying him.

863
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,900
No attention nothing.
She was like, I'm going to get

864
00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:53,000
this done.
I was like, now, when Morgan was

865
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,200
sitting there and the two people
were next to him.

866
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,800
I knew he was going to knock
them out.

867
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,000
I didn't think he was going to
kill him because they're still

868
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,700
young young people but I was
like, okay he bout to knock them

869
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:11,700
out but when he ran up, instead
of trying to run past shrike He

870
00:57:11,700 --> 00:57:15,000
should have knocked her ass out
first and push.

871
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,800
It was maybe killed her.
Grab that grab that staff.

872
00:57:20,300 --> 00:57:23,400
And took her head clean off.
Like he did in me, like you did.

873
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:28,000
Which McCall is he?
Yeah, that's what he should have

874
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,300
done.
That's what he should have done.

875
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:39,400
But he did, but he didn't.
So now, answer and get ripped.

876
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,100
They strike his put Morgan back
on the train car with Grace is

877
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:51,100
dead body and they set off more
flares so that Walkers can come.

878
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:54,200
They've locked him on the train
car so he can't get out.

879
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,400
So now he just SOL.
And I thought that too, but you

880
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,900
have to keep in mind, these are
our people, they have more

881
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:06,200
Ingenuity.
Understand.

882
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:11,100
He probably has the walkie steel
so he can call Daniel and all

883
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:12,800
them.
And you know, the mistakes, she

884
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,600
made dropping the ass.
Girl.

885
00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:23,200
But now he acts, he had a stick.
He never took the eggs.

886
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,700
No, no.
I'm I'm saying what?

887
00:58:25,700 --> 00:58:28,000
Strike left.
Maybe she threw the ax down.

888
00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:31,200
Oh yeah, mistake.
Yeah.

889
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,300
Oh yes.
Yes.

890
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:34,000
Miss, thank you.
Yes.

891
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,600
Yeah.
Mistake for her.

892
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,500
Absolutely, absolutely.
Because if nothing else more

893
00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:40,900
than go give me.
He don't kill her.

894
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,300
Especially if something happened
to me.

895
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,800
He is going to kill the fuck
out.

896
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,000
Her I don't like he's lost
Brave.

897
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,800
Don't think so either.
But I'm just saying that would

898
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,200
be.
He just don't kill him.

899
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,400
Just I say June got to be the
one who kills.

900
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,500
Right.
I said, yes I think there's a

901
00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:03,700
there's like a whole lot of
people that should be able to

902
00:59:03,707 --> 00:59:07,100
kill her.
So I think at this point, they

903
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:10,100
don't have to fight each other
to determine who has the right

904
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:13,700
to let me get it.
No let me get a new beginning.

905
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,700
Yeah yeah but that bitch needs
to die, she absolutely does.

906
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:25,200
And I will say this.
So, next week is the mid-season

907
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,800
finale.
That's episode 6.

908
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,600
Then we'll get six more
episodes.

909
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:41,800
I do not need strike or Padre.
To take up all six of those

910
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,000
episodes.
If you got to do one to close

911
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:50,800
out the storyline and then what
I need to happen is I need for

912
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,800
Morgan to take his people, all
his people and make his way back

913
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,200
to Virginia.
That's, that's what I want you

914
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:04,000
to vote again.
Just go home, Morgan, go home

915
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:06,800
because there's a lot going on.
That you didn't know about.

916
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,000
You don't know.
The Rick is gone.

917
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,300
You don't know that.
Carl is there?

918
01:00:09,300 --> 01:00:10,900
You don't know.
Michonne is gone.

919
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:15,700
You don't know about Tara in.
You don't know about all these

920
01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:17,800
people whose heads was on a
hike.

921
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:19,800
You don't know about none of
this stuff.

922
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:25,000
You need to take your ass home.
You need to go home, take your

923
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,400
child.
Take Dwight a Sherry and

924
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,500
possibly finish.
Because, again, like I said

925
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:32,800
that, by the end of this
episode, it don't look too good

926
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:38,000
for Finch because June said, if
the treatment didn't work on

927
01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:43,000
Grace, it may not work on Finch
and they don't even know,

928
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,000
they're not even near where
Finch is.

929
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,100
So they didn't get to train
because fence is smaller.

930
01:00:50,700 --> 01:00:52,800
They can't even get to the train
car.

931
01:00:55,700 --> 01:00:57,900
That's all you're gonna find a
way.

932
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:05,900
I'm just, okay, so I watched the
episode when it released on

933
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:08,800
Thursday and then I watched it
again last night because Karen,

934
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:14,100
David was live-tweeting it and I
just have to say she is one of

935
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:18,000
those actors.
She interacts a lot with her

936
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,800
fans on social media like we
were all making comments to her

937
01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:25,700
and she was answering pretty
much all of the comments.

938
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:28,900
If she wasn't answering it, she
was liking stuff.

939
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:32,800
Was retweeting stuff.
And then after the episode

940
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,200
aired, before it aired on the
East, excuse me, before it aired

941
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,500
on the west coast, she got on
Instagram and did an Instagram

942
01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:43,400
live and she talked about her
experience and she according to

943
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,400
her, she knew that Grace was
going to die.

944
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,100
Like from the beginning.
She already know what Grace is

945
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:55,800
path was, but she said it was
still emotional to play it.

946
01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:58,900
She didn't know that Grace was
going to go out with a walker by

947
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,000
like that was new but because of
the whole radiation storyline,

948
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,200
she knew Grace's days but some
point.

949
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:11,300
So she said the Walker B thing
was very surprising and because

950
01:02:11,300 --> 01:02:15,400
she is in her own words, a big
scaredy-cat she said filming The

951
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:21,100
Walker stuff was it was rattling
to her because she said she

952
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:23,900
scared herself looking in the
mirror because it was she was

953
01:02:23,900 --> 01:02:26,900
like that is zombies.
That kind of that's not my

954
01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:28,800
thing.
But she said her husband has

955
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,600
been Wanting her to play a
zombie.

956
01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:33,700
So he was really excited about
the fact that she got to play a

957
01:02:33,700 --> 01:02:38,800
walker.
But, you know, again, she is so

958
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:44,400
gracious to her fans and she,
she just expressed a lot of love

959
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,900
and appreciation to the show, to
her co-stars to the fans.

960
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:53,400
And just, she got very choked up
about it, which a lot of us were

961
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,600
because, you know, I understand
what you were saying.

962
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,600
Yes, Grace went through a whole
lot, put her out of her misery.

963
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,600
But I, you know, you feel like
if there has to be a character

964
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,700
that can overcome a lot of that
stuff like you put this

965
01:03:06,700 --> 01:03:09,200
character through this, this,
this, this and this, and they

966
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,300
still survive.
She's the character.

967
01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:14,400
I wanted that for because, even
in life, there are people who go

968
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:20,200
through so much shit and they
end up winning in the end.

969
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,500
They end up getting everything
that they want and she was so

970
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:27,000
close to it.
And if this is The Walking Dead,

971
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:31,700
I know.
I can't know, he had hope, but

972
01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:35,200
we going to go to this place
that I got us all prepared and I

973
01:03:35,207 --> 01:03:38,100
got stuff because we can just go
together and be a family.

974
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:39,500
That was a death sentence right
there.

975
01:03:39,500 --> 01:03:42,600
Did you see the carnival picture
on the wall?

976
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,300
So in the station, the relay
station, when they put Finch in

977
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:52,200
the bedroom, that was the
bedroom that she is set up for a

978
01:03:52,207 --> 01:03:55,000
moment.
There was a picture of a

979
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,800
Carnival Merry-Go-Round on the
wall.

980
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:03,100
I did see that and I was like,
Now, I really want to go back

981
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,600
and re-watch the episode because
that Molly episode was one of

982
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,600
the best efforts.
I love that episode, absolutely

983
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:13,700
love it.
But So now Grace is Gone.

984
01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:18,700
Samoas off with her little.
I don't even want to say friends

985
01:04:18,700 --> 01:04:24,500
but her I don't know co-workers
would ever grew her crew

986
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:27,400
cleaning crew.
They're going to go try to click

987
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:32,800
clear the Walkers which I
noticed they didn't necessarily

988
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,800
clear them but those Walkers are
office.

989
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,800
And roaming around and there's a
horde now.

990
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,600
And of course, we're going to
see Madison and make them sold

991
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:49,300
and Daniel and all.
But you also see Morgan is about

992
01:04:49,300 --> 01:04:51,900
to go back into that.
Um, he's about to go back into

993
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:56,300
the head space because again,
you see, writing on the wall in

994
01:04:56,300 --> 01:04:58,900
the train car.
He was like, I thought I was

995
01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:04,500
past this, you just had to kill
your other love, not days after

996
01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:07,500
you just killed your son.
Yours Walker.

997
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:13,500
Son, say the same looker.
So you, you got some stuff

998
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,200
happening.
So, yes, you're not the past

999
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:21,000
that yet, but I hate to say it.
This is the Morgan that we need

1000
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:26,900
because when they're in that
headspace, Anybody going to fuck

1001
01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:30,200
with him, he is not playing with
you, he's about to go get his

1002
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,000
child, he's about to fuck up.
Anybody who gets in it is and

1003
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,500
with what that last the last
thing he says in that promo at

1004
01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:41,600
the end of the episode he was
like what did he say?

1005
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,300
Baby move out the way.
I was like, oh he bout to whup

1006
01:05:44,300 --> 01:05:48,600
some ass and I'm here for it
because it needs to be strikes

1007
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,700
as because I'm so tired of her.
I'm so tired of these.

1008
01:05:51,700 --> 01:05:55,800
Yeah please.
But I also don't want it I don't

1009
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,600
want fish right to die and then
we got to see this little

1010
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,200
punk-ass brother of hers.
Oh no, he'll kill me.

1011
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,200
A quick cool off, too.
He's going to be a what it is.

1012
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,500
They're going to end up trying
to figure out where only Kia

1013
01:06:08,500 --> 01:06:11,700
parents that.
And we are mama.

1014
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,200
I mean, they're going to have to
go back and get Madison's files

1015
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,500
that she left behind, but I'm
sorry about that.

1016
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,900
Yeah.
We we not even when I even

1017
01:06:22,900 --> 01:06:27,900
stopped because I was still on
the, I'm still on the make it

1018
01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:32,100
make sense.
Mike Because y'all still haven't

1019
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:35,900
told us how Madison survived.
Like, how did she get out of the

1020
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:38,100
stadium?
How does she get?

1021
01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:42,400
Because we remember we went back
to the stadium, that stadium was

1022
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:50,100
decimated. so anyway, she had
what a fight Dynamite Or

1023
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:52,400
firesteel.
I think it was just a flare.

1024
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,300
Okay?
I think it was just the flare,

1025
01:06:55,300 --> 01:06:58,300
but she says, we already know
them, get fucked by no fucking

1026
01:06:58,300 --> 01:07:04,500
fire.
So anyway rest in peace Grace

1027
01:07:05,500 --> 01:07:08,900
you deserved way better.
Morgan deserved better mode

1028
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:11,800
deserves better but of course
like you said this is The

1029
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,000
Walking Dead universe and people
don't necessarily get what they

1030
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,000
deserve.
Yeah.

1031
01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:20,700
Unless it's a them, he
definitely got what he deserved.

1032
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,400
You know what?
Did you really have to go there?

1033
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:30,600
You have any final thoughts on
this episode.

1034
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,100
I'm glad they finally put Grace
out of her misery and out of my

1035
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:40,800
misery and so now we can go on
with moving on to kill shrike

1036
01:07:41,300 --> 01:07:43,200
and end up with a very happy
ending.

1037
01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:44,800
I would have loved to have seen
her.

1038
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,200
Do it though.
But I just feel like even after

1039
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,900
this finale, our second, the
second half is going to focus on

1040
01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:55,400
where the fuck victories.
It needs to because we haven't

1041
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,900
heard anything about Victor.
Oh, I figured that's what they

1042
01:07:58,900 --> 01:08:00,100
say.
I figured that's what they was

1043
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:02,900
saving the second half for for
everybody else.

1044
01:08:02,900 --> 01:08:07,000
We ain't seen main character
wise.

1045
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,300
Well, I mean, they've already
quote-unquote alluded to Charlie

1046
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:16,300
they quote unquote, alluded to
Luciano that she might not be

1047
01:08:16,300 --> 01:08:19,700
around.
Anymore, we haven't heard not a

1048
01:08:19,700 --> 01:08:25,300
word about Sara or window or
follow it.

1049
01:08:25,700 --> 01:08:30,399
Look looking at the feed of
sharing the from squawking dead.

1050
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,700
We don't know where Rabbi Jacob
is.

1051
01:08:32,700 --> 01:08:35,200
I said, oh shit, he did come
back, didn't he?

1052
01:08:35,899 --> 01:08:41,000
Well know where he is either.
So I have a feeling some of

1053
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,600
those people we probably will
never hear about again.

1054
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,800
Just like we never heard about
Heath again.

1055
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,399
We haven't heard about Cindy
again we haven't heard about

1056
01:08:48,399 --> 01:08:52,500
Callaghan yeah there's just some
people they're just going to

1057
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:59,200
leave open and unresolved and
I'm just going to put it out

1058
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,899
there that they're doing that
because they're going to be seen

1059
01:09:01,899 --> 01:09:04,500
in future things.
That's just my head Canon and

1060
01:09:04,500 --> 01:09:07,600
that's what I'm going with.
That's what we're gonna go with.

1061
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,899
That's what we do.
And so on that note, that is it

1062
01:09:10,899 --> 01:09:13,000
for our show.
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1063
01:09:13,008 --> 01:09:17,500
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1064
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:19,800
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1065
01:09:19,899 --> 01:09:22,899
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1066
01:09:22,899 --> 01:09:26,000
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1067
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,800
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1068
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:31,600
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1069
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:32,000
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