Marvel's What If...? S3E3 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #333

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Mike and Anthony and we are
discussing season 3, episode 3

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of Marvel's What If series.
This one is What If the Red

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Guardian stopped The Winter
Soldier?

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So I'm really trying with these
What If episodes.

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I'm really trying especially
because y'all know how I feel

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about Bucky Barnes, Winter
Soldier, Sebastian Stan and I

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love David Harbors portrayal of
the Red guardian and Black Widow

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and I'm looking forward to
Thunderbolts.

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However, this episode was a bit
much for me.

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Like I get the Red Guardians
Dick is making the jokes and

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being the I don't know, he's
it's almost like he's an

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environmentalist in this.
He's always he's talking about,

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you know, anti capitalism, anti,
you know, you're supposed to be

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doing this, you're supposed to
be doing that.

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But the jokes are just so much.
And I'm just like, why has Bucky

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not shot this man already like
several times?

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He's the Red Guardian.
He's he's the guardian of Mother

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Russia and communism.
He's the, he's, he's the poster

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boy for communism.
So of course he's going to spout

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communism and try to convert the
McDonald's, McDonald's to the

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and, and make, make, make her go
against the, go against the

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oligarchy or whatever and go up
her hands.

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I was going to be nice for
saying he was a poster boy for

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socialism because he sounded
really socialist as opposed.

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To I couldn't just, you know
what?

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I couldn't decide.
I couldn't.

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I was like, is this?
But it's like I was thinking

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because it's old Russia, that
it'd be communism.

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I take either one, yeah.
He was a bit much for me in this

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episode, like even even the
whole the whole premise of the

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episode is that he actually is
the person to stop The Winter

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Soldier from killing Howard and
Maria Stark and.

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I'm laughing at the
ridiculousness of the situation.

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Oh my God, I was like, like, he
should have shot him.

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The Winter Soldier Soldier
should have shot him the moment

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he interfered.
Because The Winter Soldier

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didn't do all that talking.
He didn't do all that reasoning.

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He just did his mission ready to
comply.

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You interrupted my mission.
I'm about to shoot you.

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End of story.
Again, we're talking about a

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character for the second episode
in a row that didn't operate as

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the character would normally
operate.

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And it and you.
Took the one thing about this

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character that made him The
Winter Soldier, and that was

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that he never fails a mission.
He always complies.

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As far as we know, this version
of The Winter Soldier was

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completely and utterly ruthless
according to Natalie.

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Like this version the
Terminator, but OK.

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That being said, I'm going to
surprise y'all Mike.

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I actually like this episode and
and this fight is numerous flaws

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and possibilities.
We we we may in again.

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I don't like this these
references the the the the

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callbacks, but the relationship
between the two of them reminded

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me of Bucky and the Falcon.
And it it you know it does

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because.
I don't know, poor imitation.

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It it it worked though.
It worked.

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He was getting, it was obvious
he was getting off him with the

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soldiers nerves, but he was was
was about done with him.

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He probably eventually would
have killed him anyway.

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He should have done it already
like.

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But you know, but you can't help
but like the Red Garden, you

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can't help but like David
Harbour is is great.

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He.
Is.

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Yes, the two and it seemed like
the two of them had some pretty

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good chemistry and.
Chemistry I I like.

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This there's some, there's a lot
of things, there's a lot of

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things about this episode they
were bad that was terrible like.

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What?
Like what?

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Let's see if we agree on some.
Oh, OK.

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Let's start with this.
Is the randomness of Bill Foster

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being thrown in here.
Can you talk about that?

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This is actually.
Like out of.

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The blue.
So when I saw his name in the

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credits, I was like, who is
like, because again, Ant Man two

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complete.
Like I don't remember anything

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about this plot about that movie
or anything.

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So I always forget that he was
in Ant Man 2.

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So when I'm looking at the
credits, I'm like, who is

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Laurence Fishburne going to be?
And then when he said Bill

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Foster, I said, oh duh.
I said, OK, Hanukkah before you

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go back to work in 2025, you
need to go back and rewatch this

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this movie, especially since
Ghost is going to be in

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Thunderbolt.
So I was like, OK, I just.

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All right, again, it's
appropriate for the time him

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being the shield and all this is
random again.

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Here we go again with one of
these characters.

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This is put them in the in the
theme.

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Anyone who doesn't you know who
hadn't seen the The Ant Man in

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the Watts movie wouldn't know.
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They're like, is that supposed
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Like where's this patch?
What is this patch?

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Why does he have here?
Why does he have being both to

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wait?
That's not any purity, is it?

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Wait, what is?
It that's the wrong shield black

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guy.
Right.

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Here.
I mean, wait, is is that

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supposed to be American Chavez?
Is it?

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I love America Chavez, she was
awesome in this.

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You bring that gun.
To go That's not American

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Chavez.
Is this American Ferrera?

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I'm sorry, yes.
He's.

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But he's talking about was the
character supposed to be America

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shot?
Because again, nobody knows who

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these characters are.
But yeah, I, I loved America

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forever in in this role because
that that particular character,

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her character has not been seen
in the MCU, has she?

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That's the original character
for sure.

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So I like the APC.
Yeah.

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I like this character because
she's one of those.

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Yeah.
She's kind of like Darcy is like

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one of these like, OK, so this
is what's going on.

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This is this.
Yeah.

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This Cookie Monster blood trail
over.

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Here.
I was like, OK, I'm going to

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like her character.
But yeah, the Bill Foster thing

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kind of threw me.
I was like, because I, I kind of

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sort of thought that too.
I was like, so is he going to be

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voicing Nick Fury in this one?
I was like, are they putting

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Nick Fury in this?
And then when he opened up his

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mouth and said Bill Foster, I
was like, oh.

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Yeah, OK.
Will.

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OK, we'll go with it.
OK, Yeah.

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The whole Vegas thing was just
weird to me.

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That was something that I was I
I could have done without.

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It is rude of you to correct my
English.

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Philosophy was awesome.
The the film in Louise moment,

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yeah.
Was kind the them in the car

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that was kind of cool with, you
know, with the cars and it was

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great.
But yeah, them in Louise, I, I

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think more relevant, would it be
like if the car was black and

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then people are all
supernatural?

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I could have got, I could have
worked with that, You know, more

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people would have been like,
cool, that's like.

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Sam and Dean.
Sam and Dean, but no.

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That would have been funny, but
I mean, I actually liked that

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part of the of the show.
And, and I will be honest, I

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actually did like the episode.
It was just the, the Red

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Guardian was a bit much.
Because I'm, I'm thinking again,

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this is not Bucky Barnes in the
car.

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He still has no idea who he is.
This is The Winter Soldier.

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Nothing about anything I know
about The Winter Soldier would

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lead me to believe that he would
put up with this from Alexis.

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All the talking the the the
different references he's making

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that don't make sense, the just
just him as a person.

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Which is going to be really
interesting to see in

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Thunderbolts.
But just the Red Guardian and

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The Winter Soldier, they are
like on such opposite planes of

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the spectrum that you can get as
far as assassins are because Red

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Guardian is all mouth and Bucky
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action.
So it was just really bugging me

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because I was like, at any point
in time, I'm ready for Winter

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Soldier to just be like, shut
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I was.
I was waiting for a Deadpool and

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Wolverine moment between the two
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And I think if I had gotten
that, I might have been OK.

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And then I get the feeling that
once again, this is like a

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Thunderbolts prequel because I
I, I'm like you, you literally

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have Bill Foster.
Not necessarily Thunderbolts,

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but they gets you to ghost.
You know, I don't know it that

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that was again, references,
callbacks, setups, whatever.

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Why can't you just write the
freaking what if episode?

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Yeah, this is good premise.
What if Bucky?

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OK, but why was Red guardian
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Like I I was they were going to
reassign him to Ohio.

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Like, you know, if you hadn't
seen black.

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Widow.
Then it wouldn't make any sense

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to you.
It just seems weird.

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Yeah, but that's what they were
doing.

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They were reassigning him to
Ohio and he didn't want to do it

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because he's like, I'm, I'm the
Super soldier of Russia.

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I got.
That I got that, I got that.

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But if you hadn't seen Black
Widow, do you even know who this

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character is?
Wasn't he in the previous win If

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episode?
Who regarding him Was there was

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one?
Was he in the Oh he?

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Was in the first one, right,
Right.

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Yeah, he was in the.
First one.

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As an Avenger on top of that,
right?

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So yeah.
Then if you don't, if you hadn't

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seen that man, you would know
who Bill Foster was.

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Why is he?
Why is he giant man like?

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Yeah.
I, I, I, again, I like the

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chemistry between the two of
them.

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I enjoyed the banter.
I was like, you waiting for

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Becky to snap and like that's
I'm done with you.

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I was waiting for that.
And you know, it was, it was a

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fact.
Watching Bill Fox to run was

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hilarious.
Watching them both.

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OK, so the Red Guardian beats
him up the first time, but he

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couldn't do it the second time
for some strange reason.

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And then Becky beats him up.
Bill Foster, you go back to the

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office, Sir.
Just go back to the office.

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Let's.
Go back to.

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That to me, Bill Foster having
the suit and this one kind of

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reminds me of Roadie having I
just no, no, it's not working

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for you.
It's no, no, because if

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anything, you could have been
that big and you could have

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stopped them from driving off
the what was that?

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The Grand Canyon or whatever
that Cliff was that they were

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driving.
Off where they knew they were.

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I don't know if there's a
cornfield near the Grand Canyon.

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I seriously doubt that.
Oh yeah, there's a cornfield

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over there.
OK, yeah.

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But yeah, Mike, what did you
think about it?

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My grandmother, of course.
It was great.

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I mean what?
What?

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We're not teasing you, we're
just we're still laughing about.

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You're laughing about because of
the Grand Canyon.

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I just.
OK.

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Because I have it playing right
here and like, Oh my God, you

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said not a cornfield about the
Grand Canyon.

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Yeah.
OK.

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So yes, OK, come.
On Mike.

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Yes, I'm OK yes, as as everyone
who's listening knows, Mike

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enjoys enjoys what ifs
immensely.

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And yes, I enjoyed this woman
immensely.

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I was I've been looking forward
to this since they gave us the

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teaser at the end of the last
season of what if?

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Like they gave, they gave us
like the snippet of them going

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to the roadblock and going past
the roadblock.

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I thought that this is like this
is the buddy movie I didn't know

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I needed, but I'm glad I got OK.
So going back to why Bucky

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didn't shoot him, so but I have
a theory.

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I think that there's either one
or two things going on here.

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Either he's I'm pretty sure that
he's probably worked with him

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before is possible, or maybe
there's something in his

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programming that prevents him
from killing him.

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But or something like that, I
don't know.

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But at any rate, I love them
going going together.

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I mean, and Bucky tried to shoot
him three times.

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He's he tried he tried to shoot
him three times.

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So they did this that like Bucky
didn't try to kill him.

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He.
Yeah, but they were they were

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kind of fighting then.
So it's kind of understandable

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that he avoided it.
But like when they're sitting

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right there in the car, I mean,
I don't know what a gunshot

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would have done to the Red
Guardian because he is super

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soldier.
So maybe the bullet would have

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just bounced off him or
something.

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But it just would have been nice
to see like a little bit of that

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that dynamic.
Like I said, I wanted a little

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bit of Deadpool and Wolverine
with these two, but.

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Yeah, I, I, I really enjoyed it.
I'm shout out to Bucky for

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biting him in the fight and
like, like doing whatever it

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took, whatever it took to try to
win the fight.

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And I was like.
Fighting is cheating.

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And then he proceeds to pull his
hair.

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I'm like, hey, guys, and then I
mean I enjoyed him trying to

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convert the McDonald's employee
to communism or socialism,

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whichever, whichever ISM he was
at.

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Boy and a was like paper hats
and certitude exceeds the means

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of production.
When do you get to eat?

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She's like, I'm a I'm a
vegetarian.

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You fart knocker and shout to
them saying fart knocker.

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I haven't.
I haven't heard that in like

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10-15 years.
I've never heard that expression

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and don't need to hear it ever
again.

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And shout, shout, shout, the
Bucky turning, turning on this

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move this like he was talking to
like he was talking to Sam's

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sister and diffusing the
situation.

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That's the other funny thing,
because that was definitely

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Bucky Barnes and not Winter
Soldier.

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Yeah, I like how he's like, he
was like your idiocy, your your

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idiocy triggered my deep cover
mode.

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I was like, oh see, that's.
Perfect, Yeah.

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I'm I'm glad we got to kill
Jebadiah again.

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I mean so so I heard Jebadiah.
Jedid, Jedidiah.

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Sting.
I'm glad we got to kill him

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again instead of Tony Stark this
time.

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I'm like, cool.
Then that I was just like, I, I

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felt so bad for for the Red
Guardian because he was just

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sitting there like his world
just came apart.

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He was like, Red the Rook is
communist pig, I the director is

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Communist pig, Red Guardian work
for Communist pig.

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I was like.
Capitalist pig.

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Capitalist pig.
Capitalist pig, Yeah.

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He was like, I mean, his world
'cause it came apart.

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I was like, damn, that's fucked.
And but yeah.

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It's so funny because when
they're having that interaction,

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the again, the Red Guardian is
talking so much and Winter

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soldiers just looking back and
forth like So what are we doing?

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It was So what are we doing?
What the fuck are you talking

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about?
Will you kill this man already

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or whatever?
Are we shooting him or?

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Right.
I actually it's kind of weird

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shout out to Bucky given in
Vegas giving giving Goliath a

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sure you can and like sure you
can uppercut and knocking him

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out.
I was like, like, yeah, like,

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I'm wow.
I was glad to see Bill Foster

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and I'm glad that Laurence
Fishburne still getting that

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getting them Bill Foster checks.
Get that money.

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Look that shit up.
He just he was like, you know,

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if they were serious, I could
have ended this a long time ago.

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But these guys are just fucking
idiots.

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And I can't get a hold.
I can't figure out how to count,

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how to corral this situation.
It's like he threw, he threw a

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damn windmill like a like a like
a shuriken.

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I was like, OK, like you, this
should be over with.

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But no, you, you can't can't do
anything with the Super

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soldiers.
But yeah, I liked it.

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I was just shout out to shout
out to Red Guardian for calling

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him Hydra trash when he when he
heard him trying.

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To get.
Like what's the hydra trash

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Hydra.
Trash, yeah.

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Talking about Winter Soldier.
He's not.

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He's not.
Even a real Russian, Yeah.

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He's probably in the Pony
Island.

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That was awesome.
But see, there was.

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So many really good like one
line zingers like especially

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when Agent Morales was like, Oh
yeah, Russell's a Bigfoot.

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He's like what?
He's like, Oh no, she's like,

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no, it was a Mountain Lion.
But anyway.

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Still right.
Or when when when he grew the

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first time she was like, oh, OK,
I see you.

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Right.
And then after she talked about

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the the Mountain Lion, he was
like, OK, I see you.

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I was like, oh, do we have
something?

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Going on simple this OK.
OK, when they're sitting there

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talking and they're looking at
Jedediah on the ground and

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they're like, OK, so the Starks
are this, but not the baby.

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And then you see Bucky and the
Red Guardian falling down the

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side of the hotel.
I feel like I'm watching, like

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I'm trying to think of what a
good buddy cop rush hour.

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That's what it feels like.
Feels like Jackie Chan and Chris

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Tucker just doing some
shenanigans.

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But instead it's 2 super powered
soldiers who are just Oh my

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goodness.
Let let they you know this was

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this was a fun episode.
I'm like Mike I I enjoyed it.

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It was fun.
I had.

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Fun, but like I said, it's.
Not.

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It's got a lot of issues, but
it's fun.

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Alexa just need to be shot one
or two times.

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I mean, I don't want him dead
because again, I like the Red

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Guardian.
I like his humor.

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But one thing I think is that
sometimes the humor, especially

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when it's a lot, it doesn't
necessarily come through in

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animation as it would like in in
live action because you don't

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get David Harbour's facial
expressions, you don't get the

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body language, And I think
sometimes it just gets lost in

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translation.
But again, I like his character.

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I just felt like Winter Soldier
would have taken care of that

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after a while.
But you know, I guess they do

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make kind of a good team.
Not as good as Bucky and Sam,

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but they.
Are but it was it was good, it

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was good.
This reminded me of the the same

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feeling I had watching the Hot
Wheels episode The Weather with.

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The hot.
Wheels Episode.

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Yeah, when they were with, when
they were with, when they were

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with.
What was it with Jeff Goldblum?

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Yeah, when they were on the
call.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's.

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A.
Race yeah, the rap fight was it

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was fun.
It was fun.

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You know, it was different.
It was fun.

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I thought this was fun.
And the wooded premise, like you

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kind of have to stretch a little
bit about why he was there to

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stop him.
And, you know, you think about

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all the ramifications of of that
situation, but this is kind of

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cool.
And yeah, I I had the the scene

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playing again.
Yeah.

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He was trying to kill him.
He he was, he was in not trying

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to kill Riga.
He was literally trying to kill

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him.
And, and I don't think that's as

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easy a task, you know, for
Becky, just like when he was

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trying to kill Cap, he was
trying to kill Steve.

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It's not that easy.
Yeah.

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But it was, it was interesting.
I wish, I wish, I wish they

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would have at least like tried
to do the whole hand holding

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thing when they went over the
over the ledge of the Canyon.

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Like just give me like a little
bit.

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It's like, I mean at least raise
your raise your hand a little

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bit.
Like I mean, oh and shout out,

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shout out to when they when they
went over the side, like when

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they did the cutscenes, when
they showed the Ranger, then

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they showed they showed Bill
Foster, then they showed they

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showed the guardian, then they
showed Bucky, then they cut

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aside and showed the watcher
going like are they really doing

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that shit?
So I like the fact that so far

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the watcher he is still stayed
behind the scenes like he's

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supposed to.
And then it's like when certain

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things happen, he's just kind of
like, you know, we get a little

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bit of reaction from him.
Like in the last episode when he

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was talking about them having a
happy ending and then the the

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celestial showed up behind him.
He was like, but who doesn't

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love a good clip?
But yeah, I this episode was fun

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and I'm, I'm looking back
towards the the end of where I'm

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looking at the end of the
episode now.

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And I'm like, OK, so you do get
a little bit of a, a friendship

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moment with them before
everything happens and, and

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Bucky gets taken again.
But I think the other thing

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about this is we're so used to
hearing about what a bad guy

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Drakoff is.
You know, this is the guy who

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overseas the Red Room.
He's responsible for Natasha

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Romanoff and, you know, all of
the the Widows and also in this

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one, you know, The Winter
Soldier.

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And I was just like, I don't
know if I feel like he's a as

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big a threat.
You see, he seemed like, he

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seemed like a, like a district
manager, like he's, he's like,

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he's just like reassigning,
reassigning people like to

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places like he's sending him to
Iowa.

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He's like doing all kinds of
paperwork instead of actually

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doing, getting his hands dirty
and doing things like like, you

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know, training and training and
doing doing bad things to the

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trainees and stuff like that and
beating people up.

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Like you just seem like we just
seem like middle.

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Man, don't we?
Don't we see my black?

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You know, didn't she kill me?
Black Widow.

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Yeah, but yeah, but he.
No, he, we think she killed him,

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but we did not see a body.
He got on.

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He got on one of the planes and
it, it, you know, when the

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building was collapsing and I
think the plane exploded.

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But again, we never see a body.
And he, I think he may have had.

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Yeah, I, I don't know.
And, and, and people like that,

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you know, they don't get into
that position without having a

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few bodies in the closet.
Yeah.

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So he doesn't, he looks like
he's, you know, the leader the

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the Prime Minister of the
country.

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But we know that he's done some
shady things to become, you

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know, he's in his position.
I'm not talking about nobody in

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general.
I'm just saying guys, guys in,

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in Russia, they, they, they
always start out somewhere to

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get to that, that level trial.
He tried to get Bucky to kill

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kill the right guardian like he
called him and tried tried to

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order him to take the right
guardian out but he didn't.

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Yeah, yeah.
OK.

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So I'm thinking, OK, I like this
episode more than I did before

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we started talking about this.
I mean, it was a fun episode.

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And like, I think the only thing
that really did irritate me was

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the amount of talking Alexi did.
Because again, I'm, I'm so used

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to in my head like The Winter
Soldier being this quiet, like

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silent killer.
And so to kind of have this,

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this very loud visual present,
yeah, boisterous presence with

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him.
And then we get to see a little

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bit more of, of Bucky Barnes,
even though he doesn't know

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that's who he is.
It's, it was just very weird to

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me, 'cause I'm like, no, I don't
know.

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Because I, I think if, if The
Winter Soldier had been given

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these orders to kill Howard
Stark and Maria Stark and he got

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interrupted, like you said,
Mike, he did try to shoot the

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Red Guardian.
It didn't take.

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But then for them to be in the
in the woods while the police

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get there and they're still like
Red Garden is still talking

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while Becky is sitting there
telling Drake off that he failed

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the mission and he's just like
failed the mission.

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I've never failed the mission.
I don't think live action Winter

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Soldier would have done that.
He wouldn't have said shit.

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He would have shot Red Garden.
He would have gone back out

450
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,960
there, killed Howard and Maria
and killed all the police too.

451
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,520
I just feel like that's what
Winter Soldier would do because

452
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:44,960
no witnesses, but OK, if we're
taking all of that out, I guess,

453
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,960
I guess I can see him not
shooting Alexi, but Alexi is one

454
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,200
of those people.
It's just kind of like he has a

455
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,640
lot of mouth and sometimes you
just want to silence and maybe

456
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,200
he didn't have to shoot him.
Maybe he just need to punch him

457
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,160
in the mouth and make him hush
for a little bit.

458
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:05,680
That would have been OK.
I feel like Mike and I did

459
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,520
something we got you to like an
episode.

460
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,320
What if?
And I'm usually the one who's

461
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,560
not like.
Well, like I said, it's not that

462
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,880
I didn't like the episode to
begin with.

463
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:20,000
Alexi was just a bit much for
me, especially when you're

464
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,520
talking about him and Winter
Soldier.

465
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,080
It's it's just like, like I
said, you got one that's way up

466
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,800
here, one that's way down here.
And so trying to make my mind

467
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,920
accept this enough to meet in
the middle.

468
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,680
I was just like, but as I'm
watching it in the background

469
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,240
while we're talking about, I was
like, OK, I guess it wasn't all

470
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,520
that bad.
Like yeah, Alexi is a a

471
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,240
motormouth, but he is funny, so
I'll give him that.

472
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:53,320
And again, like I said, it's
it's it's more so about the,

473
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,840
the, I guess the animation not
matching the voice or, or what I

474
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,280
expect because I'm so used to
with Red Guardian, watching him

475
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,040
in Black Widow and then seeing
him in the trailers for

476
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,680
Thunderbolts.
You get the humor, but you also

477
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,480
get the facial expressions and
you also get to see how dumb he

478
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,560
looks.
And, you know, just the

479
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,240
different physical ways that
David Harbour brings that

480
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,840
character to life.
And it's kind of, I don't really

481
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,160
get that as much with the
animation, especially when it

482
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,120
comes to humor sometimes because
I really feel like with humor,

483
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,040
especially that kind of humor
where you just constantly

484
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,280
talking non-stop, you have to
see it physically.

485
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,800
At least for me it's the same
way with Deadpool.

486
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,080
Like I don't have to envision
Ryan Reynolds face because when

487
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,600
I see Deadpool, it's just kind
of the his body language, the

488
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,440
way he speaks, what he's saying
in the comedy.

489
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,240
So OK, yeah, it's it, it, it's
fine.

490
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:50,840
It's.
Fine.

491
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,800
And to be fair, to be fair,
Bucky was kind of sick of him

492
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,240
spouting his his communist
manifesto too.

493
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,360
He was like, damn, you're more
brainwashed than I am.

494
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,080
So not gonna be the first though
again, right?

495
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,880
Right.
But at the end when they they

496
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:13,320
get they get Bucky back in the
the red room or wherever Drakov

497
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,320
takes him and they they go
through the whole thing, they

498
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,640
brainwash him again so he
forgets everything.

499
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,760
Which, OK, I'm like, you give us
all of this for the episode.

500
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,520
You make them become bosom
buddies and then you have him

501
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,800
forget everything that happened.
I'm like, do we have to do this

502
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,120
again?
OK, whatever.

503
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,560
I mean, but then let's.
You.

504
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,160
Get the ending.
Everything can have a happy

505
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,880
ending.
I know, I know, but that's the

506
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,560
one thing about Winter Soldier.
I'm like, he deserves a happy

507
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,280
ending, but maybe not in this
episode, but we'll see.

508
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,640
But Alexis still ends up being a
PE teacher 'cause I think he's

509
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,560
'cause he's had an, I mean, he's
had enough.

510
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,600
He's literally like turned on
Drake off and basically like,

511
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,240
OK, I'm gonna go be an Avenger
and stand in the middle of the

512
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,320
famous Avenger.
That was awesome.

513
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,240
I like how they went to the end
to be like, oh, is he gonna be

514
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,400
he's gonna take Kat's place.
Like Nope, caps there that he

515
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,480
just butts is like.
Aha, yeah, and Natasha's looking

516
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,480
like the hell so.
Apparently he didn't like raise

517
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,440
her.
No, because he would have had to

518
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,720
have gone to Ohio for that to
happen.

519
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,360
So being a senior data input
manager.

520
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,640
Yeah.
God, that sounds boring.

521
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,840
That makes sense.
Or or he could have raised her.

522
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:40,640
And because I mean, again,
Natasha as an Avengers, she is

523
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,560
at, you know, she defected from
from the Red Room.

524
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,200
So they could have had that in
common and been like, oh, OK, I

525
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,280
don't know.
But yeah, that that's going to

526
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,920
be funny.
But that explains how he got to

527
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,720
be an Avenger in the first
episode, because when they were

528
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,480
doing that whole first episode
of him and Molina were there, I

529
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,760
said how how?
But it can hold different set of

530
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,480
Avengers.
So it could've worked.

531
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,360
It could've worked.
He could've decided, OK, I'm

532
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,880
gonna be an Avenger in memory of
my daughter Natasha, because she

533
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:20,040
would've been in that first line
of Avengers that fought the that

534
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,800
fought the apex creature and and
lost.

535
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:29,320
So, yeah.
But OK, so we like this episode.

536
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,760
So we're kind of episode 1 was
kind of split like this.

537
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,080
Episode 2 was kind of split like
that.

538
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,360
So episode 3 I think is more on
even even ground, right.

539
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,880
Yeah.
Yeah, I would say so.

540
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,400
OK.
Yeah.

541
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,120
And then mainly just built on on
the chemistry between the two of

542
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,520
them.
Yeah.

543
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,520
And the chemistry between Bill
Foster and and and Ranger and

544
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,240
regardless wasn't wasn't bad
either.

545
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,160
Yeah.
Yeah, I I could.

546
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,520
I was thinking, oh, that's ghost
mother.

547
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,120
Yeah, I was that.
That's where my mind went.

548
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,000
You know, I was thinking, what
if, what if this is Louise's

549
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,960
mom?
Who is Louisa?

550
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,760
Louise from Ant Man, the one who
made the back stories.

551
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,800
You made the best part of Ant
man.

552
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,480
Yes, that's the best part of
Ant.

553
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,880
Man that would be funny as shit.
I don't know his last name but

554
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,680
I'm like oh but is it you know,
his mom?

555
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,840
His mom died or get deported or
his dad died and his mom got

556
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,360
deported.
I can't remember.

557
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,360
It was one, yeah.
It was one or the other.

558
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:38,680
I.
Can't.

559
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,840
He may have seen it one or the
other.

560
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,880
Yeah.
OK.

561
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,320
So we have 5 more episodes of
what if they are releasing daily

562
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,480
up until the 8th episode and
then that's going to be it for

563
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,600
the series.
So even though the first two

564
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,120
episodes this season we were
kind of mixed on, I still think

565
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,120
overall this is a good series.
I I like what they've done so

566
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,080
far.
I do know that we're going to

567
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,520
see some characters from last
season and some of the later

568
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,520
episodes because of what we got
in the trailer.

569
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,360
So I am looking forward to that.
I do see that Cohorty is coming

570
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,880
back, which I'm excited about
because that was one of the

571
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,760
episodes.
I think Anthony, you mentioned

572
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,800
it in the last episode when we
talked about episode 2 that, you

573
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,920
know, hers is a story that was
original and we still enjoyed it

574
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,480
because we had no expectations
for what to expect with it.

575
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,639
So now that we know a little bit
about her character and what her

576
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:43,560
character, what her MO is and
what she's about, how is this

577
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,800
going to fit into whatever
they're doing with her for this

578
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,800
season?
I'm excited to see that.

579
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,120
I think there were a couple of
things.

580
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,360
I saw a cowboy, Shang Shi, which
intrigues me.

581
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,480
So yeah.
And I, I really hope we get to

582
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,360
see Moonlight again because of
the net.

583
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,720
I don't know when we're going to
see him.

584
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,800
I was laughing because Nick made
a Nick.

585
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,680
One of our listeners had watched
the Kahori episode, I think it

586
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,080
was, and he mentioned how I said
that he was not the same.

587
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,920
No, we're watching.
He was talking about Echo and I

588
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,360
was saying that the blue stuff
in Echo not the same as the blue

589
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,880
stuff.
And if Nick doesn't understand

590
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,840
that, Nick, I'll be happy to
explain it to you.

591
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,520
Send me a damn.
We're not going to have this

592
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,560
discussion if you don't have any
final thoughts on this episode.

593
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,480
Shout out to the Red Guardians
the way he way he ran away like

594
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,360
especially in Vegas when he was
like, like running like this

595
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,160
like.
See, that's something I want to

596
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,880
see David Harbour do, and I hope
we get to see that in

597
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,080
Thunderbolt.
We probably will.

598
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,400
It's awesome.
I enjoyed him being the way he

599
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,920
was even though he's the worst
Tetris player ever.

600
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,840
Like he's in there playing
Tetris and.

601
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,840
Dude, I was so mad watching
that.

602
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,160
I was like how are you eat?
Like do you even know how to

603
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,360
play this game?
And I was like turn it, turn it

604
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,640
like oh like I just made me mad.
Shout out to them like right

605
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,840
before they showed Bucky the
last last scene they had

606
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,800
together being kind of
reminiscent of Butch and

607
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,040
Sundance, like going out for the
last big hurrah.

608
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,560
Like I thought that was really
cool.

609
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,560
Shout out to Bucky being
shouldn't trying to be on West

610
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,520
Coast customs by turning that
car into a convertible in like 5

611
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,920
seconds when they were driving.
I was like, he just went.

612
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:40,760
I was like damn this should
happen real quick and oh have

613
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,520
y'all seen Charlie the first
Charlie's Angels?

614
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,120
Yes, are.
You talking about the original

615
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,720
or are you talking about?
The first the first movie, yes.

616
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,920
OK so the scene where he was
getting ready to meet the Rook

617
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,400
like reminded me of the 1st
movie when they thought they

618
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,520
were going to be Charlie where
you were like like how do I look

619
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,200
How's my hair like is this do I
look?

620
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,640
OK, that's how he was.
That's how he was and Bucky was

621
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,520
looking at him.
Like what's wrong with this

622
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,680
dude?
Like I feel like that was the

623
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,280
running commentary in Bucky's
head the whole episode he kept,

624
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,000
he just kept looking at Red
Guardian.

625
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,760
Like what is wrong with this
man?

626
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,480
What is wrong with him?
Then, you know, no one knows,

627
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,240
but I loved it.
And and I think I think this is

628
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,960
a great episode.
I love that.

629
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,200
I, I love all the little, the
little like tropes that they put

630
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,840
in there, like finding a vet,
finding a veterinarian,

631
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,040
veterinarian's office to suture
their wounds and like, and like

632
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,960
hide out until the until the
heats off.

633
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,880
I was like, oh, convenient.
Cool.

634
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,160
Yeah.
It's like he's like just getting

635
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,280
the kids, getting the cats.
Yeah, Bailey.

636
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,800
Bailey wants to be a
veterinarian.

637
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,840
I'm going to have to make sure
that she has an upgraded

638
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,120
security system.
Yeah.

639
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,560
Make make sure she doesn't work
late hours and she might run

640
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,080
into like a superhero coming in.
There.

641
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,600
So shout out to Alexi for
calling out how weak American

642
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,720
children are because of American
access.

643
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:13,680
Oh God, those poor.
Kids.

644
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,560
They, they, they.
They look, yeah.

645
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,160
Children.
He wasn't wrong with a lot of

646
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,320
the things he was saying.
That's the thing.

647
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:31,720
He wasn't exactly wrong.
He was wearing those kids out

648
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,400
like them kids didn't want to
see another dodgeball for or for

649
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,240
the.
Rest of their lives.

650
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,280
I mean, have you played
dodgeball?

651
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,280
I wouldn't either.
We, we had a SO yesterday was

652
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,740
Christmas and we were over at
my, my in laws house, my ex in

653
00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:51,040
laws and there's a toddler in
the house.

654
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,360
My, my ex-husband has a almost 3
year old.

655
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,360
And so he has all of these
different little balls around

656
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,160
the house that my kids were
playing with him with.

657
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,640
And he has a small, like, orange
ball that's kind of got like

658
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,680
these little spikes, but it
looks like a miniature

659
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,320
dodgeball.
And all three of my kids and I,

660
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,120
we looked at that like, oh,
trauma.

661
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,000
Like we have trauma, traumatic
memories.

662
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,440
Oh, OK.
So.

663
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,480
One one thing I forgot to
mention about the first episode,

664
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:34,960
there was a moment where where
the Hulk hits the apex and it

665
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,160
makes a sound from the original.
Dollar man, Yeah.

666
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,480
Yeah, well, from the original
Incredible Hulk.

667
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,120
See, that's what I thought too.
But Mike said it was a $6

668
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,240
million man.
And I was like, really?

669
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,800
Because I thought it was the
original Incredible Hulk.

670
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,640
I think the sounds are.
Similar.

671
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,920
It's a similar it's.
The 70s, they don't, they only

672
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,480
have they only have like so many
sounds that they make cause

673
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,320
like.
Like only because only because

674
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,600
someone only because someone had
posted the fight between.

675
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Between, I'm sorry, between
David Banner, The Incredible

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Hulk and the gorilla episodes
and it was making that sound me

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through it was I just it was.
Weird.

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That's what I heard too.
And I was like, wait, they

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played the sound effect and then
like I said, all the other 80s

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stuff because one of the things
that you didn't mention,

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Anthony, as far as all the
things they were pulling from,

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you forgot to mention.
Well, did you mention gremlins?

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They were pulling from gremlins
too, because I.

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I I it's heavy.
Yeah, I forgot.

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Yeah, so that was fun, but OK.
Anyway, so we have what, 5

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episodes left, OK.
And the next one, OK, we already

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going to warn y'all because the
next episode is Howard the Duck

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and y'all know how Mike is about
Howard the Duck, so yeah.

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Just get, just get ready.
I'm gonna apologize in advance,

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'cause I'm gonna does.
Even if it's a bad episode, I'm

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gonna like it.
I don't care.

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I'm gonna, I'm just gonna get on
everybody's nerves.

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It doesn't matter.
It could be, it could be the

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worst directed and written
episode.

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My boys on there.
I don't care watching my boy.

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Yep.
So.

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On that note, you know what?
And on that note, that's it for

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our show.
You can find us online at

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www.phantomhybrid.com.
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