Jan. 25, 2025
Marvel's What If...? S3E4 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #334
#marvel #whatif #MCU Howard the Duck and Darcy live a happily married life, eagerly awaiting the birth of their first child. With their egg rumored to have great power since it was birthed (laid?) during the Convergence, the The Ducks find out very quickly what lengths people across the universe will go through to get to their egg. Will they be able to protect their child from the many forces of evil?
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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here
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with Anthony and Mike and we are
discussing Season 3, episode 4
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of Marvel's What If series and
what is probably Mike's favorite
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episode of the series because
it's starring who else but
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Howard the Ducks.
I know you have been chomping at
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the bit to discuss this one,
haven't you?
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Since I've seen it, but before I
go into it, I didn't totally
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love this episode.
What?
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Stop this fucking with you.
Oh, OK.
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I was about to say, who are you?
And what have you done?
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With Michael Collins.
No, I love that there was there
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were a couple of things that
that were kind of weird about
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this episode for me, like the
whole Casilla Casillas and and
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Fury like fighting and shooting
again, Fury shooting and not
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hitting anybody in the like that
that I was just like Nah.
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Weirder than Howard the Duck
being married to Darcy?
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That, strangely, is not weird.
I mean, it's like I don't the
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way I approach what if is I just
pretty much let them tell me
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what the story is about and I
basically go with it.
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What if is Marvel's version of
Fast and Furious?
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It's just like you won't go into
Fast and Furious looking for
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shit that makes sense because
there's nothing that makes sense
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in Fast and Furious.
OK, it's.
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Like what if I'll give you that.
They're just scenarios.
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So I'm like, though this is a
scenario.
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OK, cool.
Somehow Darcy had today.
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Cool.
Let's go from there.
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I, I don't care.
I love this, the little baby
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kidding me that grew up in the
late 70s that loved kiss loved
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loved them singing I Was Made
for Loving You throughout this
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episode.
I wonder how much they had to
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pay to use that song.
That came off that.
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They came off that.
Yeah.
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But I've, I mean, I loved
everything about.
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I just, it was, it was
incredible to me.
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And I I mean, I mean, down to
the Raiders of the Lost Ark call
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back in the end was dope.
I wasn't I was not expecting
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that, but I was like, cool.
But yes, I love this episode.
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So go ahead, Anthony.
Well, I'm not going to say I
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hated it.
It definitely was not great.
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You're a hard man to please.
Anthony, I'm, I'm trying, Mike,
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I really ain't.
And I appreciate the effort, I
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really do.
I appreciate the.
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Effort.
I I appreciate that you say that
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is very much one of those things
where what if is you just go
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with it no matter how ridiculous
the circumstances are.
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But I would kind of argue that
the reason why I would, if it
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kind of works, is it is
plausible.
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You know, there is something
that could be based on certain
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decisions or choices.
Yeah, it can stretch a little
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bit.
You know, like Infinity Ultron
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trying to wipe.
Out all life.
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You know strange, You know
whether we, whether we call him
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sinister strange.
Yeah.
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Or, you know, yeah.
But however, I don't know, I I
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didn't, it didn't bother me that
it was Darcy and Howard being
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married.
It didn't bother me.
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They had a kid.
But once again, we have an
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episode where they decide to
throw in the kitchen sink, like,
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oh, you remember all those
obscure characters that people
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just kind of halfway remember?
Let's throw them in the episode.
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You know, this is put them in
here.
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You know, Cassilius Frost, Loki,
this this is dirham all in here
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just just for the.
Center K Silly is an obscure
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character considering he was
like the main villain of a whole
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Doctor Strange movie.
Doctor Strange movie that that a
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lot of people didn't see OK, OK
I.
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Mean just like they didn't bring
back him or Dorma movies like
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they brought back Mordo, but
they didn't bring back either
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one of them.
So it's like, I mean, they kind
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of you and plus they really
Causilius was AI didn't like
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Causilius in the 1st Doctor
Strange movie.
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He was kind of a forgettable
character for me.
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It's just like I didn't really
miss him in much Multiverse and
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madness.
I was just like, you know, he
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didn't have to show up.
It's just I didn't I didn't like
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that performance.
So that's what best place, yeah
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should have been, but.
But my, my main thing is again,
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we we've gotten away from the
spirit of what if, like it
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wasn't it wasn't a particular
decision that changed the course
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of events.
Really.
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It's just the story.
Like this is just this just is a
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stand alone or could be a stand
alone episode of just Oh,
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wouldn't it be cool if Darcy and
Hal got married and had the baby
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and the baby was born during the
convergence and the baby is
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important because it's pop.
OK, but it doesn't to me, it
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doesn't go with the spirit of
what if.
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And, and I guess I'm starting to
become I'm starting to become
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less enamoured with the show
because it seems over the last
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couple seasons, this is getting
further and further away from
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the what if premise.
Like I would prefer to just have
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what if standalone episodes and
not episode says it's going to
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tie into some overarching thing
or whatever 'cause it's
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obviously what they're, they're
going towards.
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So I don't know.
It was I, it was I, you know, it
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was just, I, I mean, I'm, I'm,
it wasn't as referential as a
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previous episode, but it did
have these characters that
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you're just like, oh, and Fury,
this was, you're right.
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This was so uncharacteristically
not right.
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I have a.
Theory about that.
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I have a theory about that.
Why?
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It wasn't really fury that it
was probably one of the scrolls
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or whatever.
OK, Yeah.
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That was some percent scroll,
yeah.
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That, that, that, yeah, I mean.
Obviously that that was this.
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Is just this is just like in the
Marvels when he was like, come
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on, black girl magic.
I'm like.
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OK.
Even though fury out was funny
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as shit to me, like every time
you said it I busted.
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I busted my ass out laughing.
I was so confused when he said
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it 'cause I was like since when
did Fury start doing that?
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Like, it's so weird, but so I'm
going to go opposite of Anthony
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because I won't say that I like
love this episode because of
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necessarily the story, but I
just thought it was one of the
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funnier episodes.
And coming off of the last two
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episodes, which were, you know,
kind of mixed for me, I laughed
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a lot during this one.
And I think that's why I liked
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it.
And then not to mention, you
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know, like I said, one of the
things I love about what if is
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that you take these characters
that generally don't have
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anything to do with each other
in the MCU and you kind of put
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them together.
And in this one, it was so funny
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because you have so the premise,
the, the premise of the show is
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this whole thing like you say,
Anthony, about Howard the duck
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and Darcy getting married and
they have this baby that's,
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that's an egg that they're
waiting to hatch.
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And because this, this egg was,
I don't even know how to
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describe it.
She didn't lay the egg.
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She claims she gave birth to it
after she was in labor.
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So while she was in labor during
the convergence, apparently
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they're supposed to be this
great cosmic being that was, you
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know, conceived at this time,
which is supposedly Darcy and
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Howard's egg.
And so you have everybody in
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this universe literally trying
to come and get this egg.
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So you see the Grandmaster, you
see Yondu and the Ravagers, you
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see SHIELD.
As far as Nick Fury and Agent
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Coulson.
You have Caseilius, you have
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Laufe, you have Zeus of all
people.
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You have the Dark Elves, you
have Ebony Ma, you have Thanos,
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and you have all of these
different villains or characters
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from all these different Marvel
properties coming together, but
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separately trying to get this
egg.
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And I just thought it was so
funny because you get to see
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like them not only fighting to
get the egg, you're they're
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fighting each other.
There's a little bit of comic
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banter going on.
I just thought it was a funny
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episode.
And then you have Howard and
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Darcy together, which, OK, I
make the joke about them being
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together, but it's so funny
because I feel like they are a
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perfect pairing, like they play
off each other very well.
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And so I just, I really liked it
because I thought it was funny.
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It was very light, even though
people were trying to kidnap or
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either eat their egg.
What the fuck, Grandmaster?
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But even though that was the
case, it was just very light
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hearted and I didn't really need
it to mean something bigger
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because I think if you look at
the previous three episodes for
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this particular season, I don't
really see where the characters
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are going to converge.
And it'd be a bigger story, kind
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of like the last two seasons
with Captain Carter and how this
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became kind of her story.
So it was, I mean, it was fun to
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me.
I wasn't looking for anything
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kind of, I think because of the
last couple of episodes, I'm
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just kind of like not expecting
anything.
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I'm not expecting some grand
story.
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I'm not expecting any big
reveals.
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I was just like, I, I went into
this knowing it was going to be
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ridiculous because it's Howard
the Duck.
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And I was just like, OK, let me
see what they're going to do.
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And I actually enjoyed it was it
was a lot of fun.
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So Anthony's look like no.
No, absolutely not it.
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I.
I didn't laugh, not one time.
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Except maybe.
Except maybe when I realized
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they were going to eat the egg
and I chuckled.
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You are so dark.
The best thing about this
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episode was the freaking kiss
song.
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I mean that that that was it.
Wow, you are a tough cookie to
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crack.
Yeah, that's a great song.
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Now the song the.
Song that's that's one of their
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best songs that's.
That's a great song.
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It is.
It's a great song.
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You can't read the episode.
Wow.
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You did, Anthony.
This is with me.
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The holiday.
Scene it is with you we're
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supposed to be.
Bringing in here.
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Whatever I I'm, I'm sorry, I'm
expecting.
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I mean, I'm not expecting
greatness anymore, but I do have
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a certain level level of
expectation when I watch
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something and this did not meet
even the bare minimum
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expectation.
Wow.
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Well, the last episode was by
far superior to this episode.
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Wow.
The last episode was clearly
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funnier than this.
The last episode had me dying.
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The one liners everything.
This thing Zeus Russell Crowe is
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freaking ridiculous.
It's absolutely stupid the whole
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episode.
But that's not Russell Crowe,
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so.
I mean, I'm just saying that
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version of Zeus, Yeah, he was
obviously trying to channel that
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version of Zeus, and it is this
is this.
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That was like, blah.
Oh God, I was.
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Kind.
Of surprised that they threw him
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in there because.
Why?
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Why are you not surprised?
I'm not surprised.
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I'm just saying because if if
you want to say if you want to
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talk about obscure characters.
And even though I know Zeus is
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not an obscure character in
anything by far, but the fact
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that we just got introduced to
that character in Thor, Love and
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Thunder, and it's kind of like,
only briefly.
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And then they bring him in here,
which, OK, yeah.
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What if kind of does that?
But it was just, I guess,
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strange in that sense because,
like, why would he need the
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baby?
He's Zeus.
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But yeah.
But I mean, it's that version of
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Zeus.
It's like, 'cause there's so
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many versions that have come out
that portray him wild wildly
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differently.
I mean, we just had Jeff
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Goldblum as Zeus and Chaos, so
it's like they're.
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This version, you can't, you
can't do that, Mike.
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It's a completely different
property.
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I know, yeah.
He's just talking about.
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Zeus in general let.
Me finish, Let me finish cheese.
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Anthony said we are not about to
say anything to convince him to
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like this episode.
I'm.
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Look, I'm just saying look, this
this version of Zeus I can
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believe would want something
that could help him continue his
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reign as far as being the king.
I can see I can see him going
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after that also real quick.
I know this doesn't this episode
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kind of to me this I don't know
about y'all, but I mean,
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honestly, this episode with the
baby, I'm I just for some
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reason, I think that there's
something else with her.
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I mean, she's really important,
obviously, or the everybody
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wouldn't be going through all
this trouble to get her.
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So there has to be some kind of
time thread.
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And as we've seen in what if
they take multiple episodes
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sometimes and tie different
things together and put
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different things to get to the
point of the final episode or
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the penultimate episode to get
there.
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So I would just hold off, hold
off judgement until then, but
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but I don't know why I'm talking
to you because you're not you're
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not even listening to me.
I'm.
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Listening to every word you're
saying.
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Every word.
Alright, but I every word.
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I mean you.
I can't believe you.
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You didn't.
You didn't find Loki selling
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timeshares in selling ice giant
timeshares funny like that
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wasn't funny to you?
No, it wasn't.
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You're my brother from another
mother's old lady, sister from
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another mist.
No, he wasn't funny.
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Really funny.
No, no, nothing.
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Nothing about this episode was.
Wow, Anthony is the Ebenezer
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Scrooge from the What If scene.
You had to.
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At least, at least I'm I'm
sitting the first fury out.
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You had to have laughed the
first fury out.
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I almost cried at the death of
one of my favorite beloved
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characters.
I'm like.
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See, you know what?
No, whatever it.
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Can't be any worse than Secret
Invasion.
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No, nothing would ever be as bad
as that, OK?
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No, I would.
I would never disparage to a bad
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degree.
OK.
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As long as long as we're
straight on that.
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We're talking about this
particular episode.
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This specific episode is this.
I don't know.
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I'm watching it and I'm like,
this is stupid.
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And it just kept getting Dumber
and Dumber and Dumber and, you
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know, the bright spots, the
song, Darcy and Howard.
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That's it.
I could've done without
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everything else.
That adorable baby, that baby,
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that baby wasn't keep.
I mean.
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You had.
You had.
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Yeah, but we didn't even see the
babies reveal until the end of
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the episode.
So, I mean, yeah, she she's cute
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and all, but it was.
It was so strange.
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Yeah, the whole egg thing, that
was kind of weird because when
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Darcy had her, she's like, Oh
yeah, she looks like me and I'm
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like, it's an egg.
How does she look like those
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little things?
Mothers know, you know, you know
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this as you know this too.
Mothers know exactly everything
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about their children.
So, you know, she knew that it
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looked just like her.
I wish those of you who are just
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listening, I wish you could see
the little Anthony and I are
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giving mic right now.
Mothers.
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Know mothers know these things.
As far as I've been reading, I
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don't know.
Yeah, no, that, that was kind of
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strange.
I do enjoy the fact that they
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are getting a lot of the the
original actors who portrayed
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these characters in live action
to come back and do the voice
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overs.
I do love that part because even
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even for the small parts, just
to hear the familiarity, like
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Michael Rooker being Yondu and
only being on screen for like
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maybe 2 minutes tops, I was just
like, hey, it's Rooker.
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I like that, you know, and I
think the person, there's an
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actor who actually did the voice
dubbing for the grandmaster in
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this episode, and it was not
Jeff Goldblum.
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He sounds so much like him, and
I thought he did a really,
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really good job.
They do have a lot of talent
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coming in to do the voice work
for these these particular
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episodes, so I do appreciate
that.
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Yeah, I could appreciate that.
And they did some great work.
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They really did, you know.
And it's like, that's about all
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I got.
Wow.
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I don't even know.
We should have a longer episode
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because Anthony just did not
like this episode.
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It makes me sad.
I said that I can't say, I can't
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say I hated it is this is blah,
this is but I, I was really
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struggling to watch it to to
make it through the episode.
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OK, so, so of the four episodes
we've seen so far, where does
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this rank for you?
I I don't even need to ask Mike.
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I already know you'd.
Be surprised if you asking.
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Me, yeah, Of the four episodes,
this is definitely last place.
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Really.
Even even under the the Agatha
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episode.
Yeah.
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Oh wow.
Agatha.
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Agatha would be 3, the mash up
would be two, and last episode
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would be one.
Oh, OK, to Seth.
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Green and Kat Dennings The views
reviews presented by Anthony are
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not the views of Phantom Hybrid
dot.
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Com My issue was not with Darcy
and Howard.
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It really was, yeah.
He did say that.
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He said that they they kind of
carried the episode, you know,
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because of the the the chemistry
with those two characters.
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Like those two characters are,
are funny.
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And it's like, I kind of sort of
want to see this in live action
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as weird as it is, but it just,
I don't know, something about
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those two characters work.
So.
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I love, I love Darth.
I think, I think they're just, I
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can't wait to see how their,
their kid, their kid turns out.
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Because the kids going to be
sarcastic, mouthy and smart just
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like they are.
And it's going to be fucking
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awesome.
Yeah, they'll be.
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It's going to be a younger
combination of them.
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It's going to be great and
brilliant and hilarious, Sir.
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And she has powers, so that's
going to be interesting because
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you know, you know what you
didn't?
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You didn't get you didn't get
hyped over over the baby doing
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the Indiana Jones rated Raiders
of the Lost Ark fatality on
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everybody around them.
Yeah, except for the people that
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matter.
They conveniently were able to
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dodge.
So, so it's still the Indiana
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Jones and what's her name?
What's your point?
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That's that's kind of what
happens.
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What I mean, I think what she
did was she she targeted the
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people that were trying to
either kill her, eat her or
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destroy her.
And the ones who she spared,
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like Nick Fury and Coulson
weren't trying to harm her.
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They were trying to protect her.
And they didn't think that a
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regular human person and a like
they said, a outlaw duck would
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be able to protect them.
So it's not like they were
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trying to harm her.
So they would have naturally
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been spared.
Of course, yeah.
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And a.
Gambling addict ducks.
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That's what he Zeus left.
Loki and Laffy were, you know,
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Loki wasn't trying to harm her.
Loki was actually trying to help
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her parents.
Laffy was just like, well.
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Every everyone was trying to
kidnap her except the
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Grandmaster.
He was the only one trying to
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eat her, but that's neither here
nor there.
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Yeah, he.
He's a grandmaster who could
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explain anything that he does.
That is.
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True.
Like he's weird.
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That.
Is true when?
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When Celius just wanted what?
You what's?
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The Rosemary Band Rosemary.
That was actually, I think I did
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chuckle at that.
I did chuckle at that because
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that was funny.
That was funny.
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OK, we found one thing.
OK.
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But yeah, I mean, I, I think if
if this is a, a a being with
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cosmic powers, and I don't know
why Aladdin just came into my
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head because I was about to say
itty bitty living space.
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I mean, she's trapped inside of
Edward, but if she's a being
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with cosmic powers, she should
be able to detect all the people
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who are trying to harm her and
single them out.
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So that is actually not as
implausible as it sounds, you
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know, And then especially when
you think about the The Watchers
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narration in the beginning and
he said something about this
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being a, you know, a cosmic
being that will have, what did
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he say will be very important to
the universe or has a big, I, I
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can't remember what the wording
was, but obviously she's going
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to be important for something.
And kind of like you said, Mike,
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we may see something with her
later on there.
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This is still only episode 4.
So we still have 4 episodes
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before the end of the series, so
she may show up a little bit
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later and be important because
like you.
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Yeah, they did a whole episode
on her.
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It's like there has to be
something.
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It's like a whole episode on a
baby.
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On trying to protect her.
So yeah.
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But yeah, I just, I don't know
what else to say since, I mean,
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Anthony doesn't like it.
We like it.
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I thought it, like I said, I
thought it was funny.
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I thought it was it was kind of
light and it was, you know, it
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was very fun.
But again, I think this is one
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of those episodes too where, you
know, we talk about this with
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the other what if series.
They always throw an episode in
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the middle that that kind of
doesn't make a lot of sense and
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it seems a little more light
hearted.
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And then the episodes we get
after that are a little bit
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darker.
So maybe that's what is and what
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was what it was supposed to be
kind of like that palate
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cleanser before they get our
dark with us.
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I mean, we are coming to the end
of the series as a whole, not
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just the season.
So there's probably going to be
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death in there.
See I thought last so was was
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light and and not as dark.
This one they're literally
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trying to eat.
He's literally going to serve
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the egg as the baby has dinner
and another character is going
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to possess her with a demon from
another dimension.
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Yeah, my.
Definition of light is a little
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bit.
Off and look.
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This is this is actually all.
These people trying to kidnap,
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not even a newborn, I mean
literally a newborn.
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They're all trying to kidnap his
newborn.
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It's not light hearted to me.
Look, this is this is basically
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a continuation of the party Thor
episode because they shouldn't
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be because they got married in a
party Thor episode.
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They met in the party Thor
episode.
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This is basically a spinoff of
that.
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So yes, it is.
It is a light hearted palate
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cleanser until we get into delve
into the deepness that's
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probably getting ready to come
and probably send us into a
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spiraling depression.
So just enjoy it for what it is
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and laugh at the parts that I
know you laughed at and just,
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you know, just just appreciate
it.
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I mean they did a who?
They did the who's on 1st joke
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for nowhere that that that was
they.
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Did The Who?
They did the what joke?
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The no doing, he said.
Oh, they're, oh, I don't know
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where they're going.
They're going to nowhere.
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Nowhere.
Nowhere.
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Nowhere.
What are they doing?
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Nowhere.
Yeah, I think that joke held on
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a little bit too long.
I do.
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I will say that.
But you know.
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That that joke is low hanging
fruit for a writer.
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It really is.
No, I mean, I know, I know, but.
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But the thing had a lot, it had
a lot of lot of really cool
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Easter eggs too.
Like, I mean, when they were
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getting ready to get on the
ship, they said they said they
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had they offered Cliff diving on
Vormer.
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I'm like.
And and it's an experience that
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you can only enjoy with someone
you love.
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I was like y'all are dead dead
ass wrong for that.
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That was funniest that was, that
was that was funny and you had
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to be paying attention for that.
That was cool shit.
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And shout shout out to shout out
to Howard the Duck being a
446
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,960
Android user 'cause he used
Google Translate to find out
447
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,840
what the map, what the menu was
saying.
448
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,600
Yeah, that that menu, I tell
you, the grandmaster, he's just
449
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,800
one of those characters is just
like this.
450
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,240
Just when you think he can't
sink any lower, then you get to
451
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,120
see him again and you get to see
just how low he can go.
452
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,400
So, yeah.
But oh, OK, Anthony didn't like
453
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,560
the episode.
Me and Mike liked the episode.
454
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:23,880
I didn't see.
I didn't.
455
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Like it, he said.
It was OK.
456
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,560
Right.
I'm sorry, I Yeah, GHT was I
457
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,400
really?
Don't think there's too much
458
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,600
more to say about the episode
then is.
459
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,720
And I'm and I'm hurt by this.
I'm like, I'm like, we're not,
460
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,280
we're not even at 30 minutes
yet.
461
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,200
We're like almost done.
I'm like, man.
462
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,280
OK, well, what?
I mean to be here's some here's
463
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,640
some I.
I do like the the locations that
464
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,280
we went to.
We went to nowhere, you know, I
465
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,720
have to go to.
Yodenheim.
466
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,160
Yodenheim, yeah.
So I to be fair, Mike, the
467
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,760
episode was not really overly
complicated.
468
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,480
And I think that's why there's
not a lot of discussion for us
469
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,800
because it's not like there were
varying plots and it's not like
470
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,960
there were a lot of characters
that we were like usually kind
471
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,640
of dissecting what they're, you
know, what their motives are and
472
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,800
all this other stuff.
There's not a lot of conflict.
473
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,920
It's literally everybody is
trying to get hands on this baby
474
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,560
because the baby was born during
the convergence.
475
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,480
Yeah.
So it's it's kind of simplified.
476
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:38,640
There isn't really isn't a lot
to dissect with this one, for
477
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,800
lack of better words.
I was, I was kind of out, I kind
478
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,920
of confused convergence with
emergence.
479
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,400
I was like, oh, does that mean
that that the that the the
480
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,920
celestials coming out or I was
like, oh, convergence that's.
481
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,120
Like the convergence?
OK, yeah, because they, because
482
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,280
this is what I get for, for
bringing up, bringing up the
483
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,600
Eternals in the, in the Agatha
episode.
484
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,480
I've been, I've been thinking
like that that's got to pay off
485
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,520
somehow too.
Cause like, 'cause they don't
486
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,760
do, that's what they do is like
they don't bring something up
487
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,880
that's not going to pay off.
So I was like, so I had, I had
488
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,000
to, had to kind of think about
that too.
489
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,600
Yeah.
So disappointed, doesn't it?
490
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,640
Yeah, but but throwing these
things in from from movies and
491
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,040
stories which weren't very
popular is just a little odd,
492
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:27,040
you know, to me.
It kind of makes me wonder if
493
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,520
they're actually like, I know
that they've announced that
494
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,600
they're not going to do the
Eternals, too.
495
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,840
I know that they're, you know,
some of the other properties
496
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,600
that we've seen are kind of
questionable or in the air.
497
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,080
Like, like I said, we don't know
if there's going to be a Shang
498
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,360
Shi too.
We don't know if Moonlight
499
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,400
Season 2 is going to come, but
they are throwing these
500
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,760
characters in there.
So it makes me wonder if maybe
501
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,640
we will still see these
characters at some point in live
502
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,240
action, just maybe not in their
own things.
503
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,680
And that's why they're kind of
putting them in here, maybe to
504
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,880
familiarize people with the
characters.
505
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,680
But again, that goes back to
that conversation that we've had
506
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,000
about the people who watch the
shows versus the people who
507
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:16,040
watch the movies and whether or
not those two audiences are
508
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,160
going to converge.
You know I.
509
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,880
Mean, but what?
What's the point of the of
510
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,600
throwing in the Dark elves?
We're not going to see the Dark
511
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Elves again.
No, but I think that.
512
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,040
We're not going to see.
We're not going to see, we're
513
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,120
not going to see Zeus in in
again because I doubt if they do
514
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,120
another Thor movie.
They're supposed to.
515
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,400
They're supposed to be a Thor
movie.
516
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,000
But I'm I'm not hanging my head
on that.
517
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,360
So, and, and I mean they, they
did, they did kind of throw out
518
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,080
throughout Hercules there.
So if Hercules comes back, then
519
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,960
Zeus kind of ties into that too.
So you never know.
520
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,400
Yeah, so the other ones like the
Dark Elves, KK, silliest and all
521
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,760
that.
That goes back to what you said
522
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,800
in the last episode, Anthony,
about the throwbacks, you know,
523
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:07,200
just kind of, you know, those
references maybe, you know, just
524
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,440
for fun or just because, you
know, hey, let's just give them
525
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,920
all these different enemies who
would want them for different
526
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,760
reasons.
I mean, if you think about what
527
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,960
Birdie is supposed to represent
this cosmic power, and she may
528
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,920
have something to do with, you
know, the the greater universe
529
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,360
in in general, the dark elves
were looking for power in Thor,
530
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,720
The Dark World.
We know that Lafi was looking
531
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,760
for domination.
We know K Celius was looking for
532
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,160
a vessel for Dormammu.
So I mean, and well, Thanos
533
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,520
didn't even Thanos was like
y'all called me for it.
534
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,920
Like really Ebony Mall was like,
but he's a magical egg.
535
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,320
Magical.
Like OK but I mean got bigger
536
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,680
fish to fry.
Shout to Ebony Mall using
537
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,160
Groupon to get to get a deal on
A to get a deal on a conference
538
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,720
space.
On a conference space for a
539
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,600
resort that hasn't even opened
yet.
540
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaking of which, the fact that
Loki and Laffy offered the the
541
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,440
the the Ducks a a comped room in
the lodge.
542
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,120
I'm like, what lodge?
Zeus destroyed it when he got
543
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,000
They ain't.
No lodge no more.
544
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,720
It's gone.
So yeah.
545
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,840
So yeah, I thought, I thought
that was funny as shit, though.
546
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,160
It was like they they came down
and they were like, don't take
547
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,520
our don't you?
No, you have to take our baby.
548
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,400
And they're like, no, we're here
for a conference.
549
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,080
Like we're here for a
conference, but you said magical
550
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,280
baby.
Exactly.
551
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,640
OK, we can do that.
But yeah.
552
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,440
It it's it's really almost as if
these things are really written
553
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:47,480
for people like us who go into
the minutiae of the MCU.
554
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,920
Yeah.
And the comics, they are into
555
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:57,000
all of this weird and strange
stuff, you know, it's just, I
556
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,200
don't know, I'm still, I'm still
a little sore from one division.
557
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,520
I know I I.
Know it's it's hard.
558
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,440
It's hard to heal.
They will forever be trying to
559
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,640
have having to make that up to
you because but.
560
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,680
It's like they've, they've,
they've really leaned into it,
561
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,240
Like really leaned into this.
Yeah.
562
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,000
And they also have like.
They have a habit of making
563
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:29,120
these references that don't
necessarily pan out, You know,
564
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,600
just throwing stuff in there.
Like you said, for those of us
565
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,120
who are kind of deeper into it,
you guys more than I, because
566
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,840
you guys are more familiar with
the comics.
567
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:42,320
But just like even in the Agatha
show, when they mentioned
568
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,320
Mephisto, it's kind of like, why
would you even throw that name
569
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,920
in there if if there's nothing
going to come out of it?
570
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,120
Like you guys have been
mentioned in Mephisto or the
571
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,120
possibility of Mephisto ever
since One Division I, you know,
572
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,440
that was like one of the things
that kind of threw you off.
573
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:05,200
So yeah, I guess we just have to
see where they go with this and
574
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,280
whether or not it's going to
have bigger implications and
575
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,920
other stores.
I just don't.
576
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,640
I mean, it's weird because OK,
for example, creature Commandos,
577
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,800
like everybody in creature
commandos is going that's
578
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,200
playing the doing the voice
acting is going to be in live
579
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,160
action.
When they when they do live, I
580
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,520
do that in live action.
So it actually transfers.
581
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,280
But this is actually the reverse
of it.
582
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,760
It's like they they're trying to
get a lot of, they get seventy,
583
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,200
7580% of the actors who actually
played the part to do the voice
584
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,680
acting.
So maybe 8085%, but it's like
585
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,720
they're they're trying to like
draw a parallel.
586
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,960
But I don't think that certain
things that they haven't done,
587
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,120
haven't really delved into like
as much as I want it in my
588
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,440
heart, they're probably not
going to do a Howard the Duck
589
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,720
movie.
And I'm probably not going to
590
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:05,520
see, I'm probably not going to
see little baby Birdie as a full
591
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,199
as a full blown adult.
I'm probably not going to see
592
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,560
how like unless I mean, if they
delve into it, they're they're
593
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,080
not going to do it because
they've already risked they
594
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,159
they'll probably feel they've
already risked that with
595
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:19,600
Eternals and it didn't work out.
And they don't have James Gunn
596
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,880
to turn it, to give it whatever
magic he has to turn something
597
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,920
obscure into a cult classic.
And it's like until they find
598
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,480
that they're not really going to
delve into something that they
599
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,000
don't think is going to become
profitable, popular and a
600
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,600
staple.
It's just like they're they're
601
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,199
going, they're going to kind of
stay the course and do things,
602
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,840
do things that are familiar.
And anytime they stray out is
603
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,719
going to have a direct
connection to something that's
604
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,840
already been established.
So it's just like they're not
605
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,719
going to they're not going to
take that risk again because
606
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,240
they've been burned too many
times.
607
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:02,320
So we're just going to have to
wait and see if we if see how
608
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,560
secret, see how everything pans
out.
609
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,200
Like if Secret Wars and every
all the other stuff that they're
610
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,240
doing actually goes back up to
the level that if that Infinity
611
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:16,600
Ward in game was that like,
maybe they'll, they'll
612
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,640
reconsider it.
But I don't think they will
613
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,320
'cause, you know, once I've been
twice shy.
614
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,800
Yeah, yeah.
OK.
615
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,440
Well, you guys have any final
thoughts to say about this
616
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,240
episode?
Fine, I'll in the words of
617
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:32,840
Thanos.
Fine, I'll do it myself.
618
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,840
All right.
Shout out to the Grandmaster
619
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,920
when they were when they were
sitting seated for dinner,
620
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,840
raising himself, then looking to
the side and lowering Darcy and
621
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,320
Howard.
That was funny as shit.
622
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,120
I'm like, really?
You weren't high enough to help?
623
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,640
It's like, that was awesome to
me.
624
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,000
Shout out to another little
Easter egg, Casillas.
625
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,960
When, when, when Yandu said that
he has a whole lot of offers.
626
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,320
He's like, sorry, sorry, Dumamu
doesn't bargain anymore And like
627
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,120
and took the egg from him like
when they when they were in,
628
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,800
when they were in nowhere, He
said Dumamu doesn't bargain.
629
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,600
I'm like, yeah, he got.
He already got burned by that by
630
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,800
Doctor Strange.
See.
631
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,360
Yeah.
OK, I was laughing at you.
632
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,440
Hey, your job.
You should be a writer on this
633
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,200
stuff.
I should right.
634
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:27,120
OK, so shout out to Loki
thinking he was going to be a
635
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,480
godfather after when they when
they got up, when they when they
636
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,440
were there, they were like that
whole that whole conversation
637
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,080
was hilarious to me.
Like like Loki is just, it's so
638
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,480
weird seeing Loki aloof and not
really kind of.
639
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,120
Dialed in trying to take over
the world.
640
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,080
Yeah, and not really knowing
what's going on, like I thought
641
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,560
that was hilarious to me.
Shout to the watcher.
642
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,440
Always being in the bedroom.
It's kind of creepy, but him
643
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,560
being in the background in the.
In the nursery, yeah, that was
644
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,120
kind of creepy.
That was kind of creepy.
645
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,720
I was like.
Yeah, OK, buddy.
646
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:14,920
I also I love it's a huge fury
said first time mom and gambling
647
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,960
addict.
He was like, hey, I'm I'm in
648
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,040
recovery.
I got a chip that's not the
649
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,000
right chip cause.
What kind of chip was that was
650
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,360
that he was holding?
I didn't.
651
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,760
I didn't.
See, it looked like looked like
652
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,440
one of the chips that he had
when in from last year's last
653
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,480
year's first episode, the the
Blade Runner episode where he
654
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,560
was running the Oh, OK.
OK, it's kind.
655
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,480
Of like a ship like that, yeah,
so.
656
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,480
And anyway, OK, Iris, like I
said in previous episodes, Iris
657
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,840
I, I have changed my ways.
I respect everybody's opinion on
658
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,800
everything, especially Anthony,
because he's one of the smartest
659
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:55,000
guys I know and he's one guys
that I respect thoroughly as far
660
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,840
as as far as nerdy things and
other things, 'cause he's
661
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,720
outstandingly smart, man.
However, I love this episode.
662
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,160
It was hilarious.
I've watched it at least four
663
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040
times since it came out.
Of course I have and.
664
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,720
Only for and.
Well, well OK for then all the
665
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,720
reactions that people had to it
and ironically, some of the
666
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,640
other people had had similar
reactions to and the end with
667
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,800
Anthony to this.
So I'm like maybe just maybe
668
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people and I I I want to quote
the words of the pig in of the
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of the Mr. Potato Head in Toy
Story.
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You want to cultured swine.
This this is this is this is the
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height of film culture to be OK
to me.
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But in in in short, might be.
Going a little far with that.
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I'm just saying, but yes, I I
love I love this episode.
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Like, and this is just it me, me
watching what if actually makes
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me want to break out my what if
cart.
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I would have comic books and
read and read them, reread them
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again just so I just so I can
get that feeling.
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But yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed
this.
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OK, we're not going to ask
Anthony because we already know
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how Anthony feels about this
episode.
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I'm just saying, you know, we
don't need to, we don't need to
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end on a negative note or kind
of sort of negative note.
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We know it's OK for you.
And that's fine.
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Because, you know, I think we
talked about this in one of the
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previous episodes.
The what if series is kind of
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like you have your highs and you
have your lows and sometimes you
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kind of like right in the
middle.
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And I think we've all, for the
most part, been kind of sort of
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split on these 4 episodes, which
I think is really interesting
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because when it comes to certain
things, Anthony and I usually
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agree a lot.
And then when it comes to
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others, Mike and I usually agree
a lot.
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And then sometimes you guys
agree and I'm kind of left, you
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know, out in left field.
So I think it's very interesting
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to see where our opinions vary
in these particular episodes.
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So I'm looking forward to seeing
what the next 4 episodes bring
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and how we'll feel about those.
But do you?
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Do you?
You know, if there's going to be
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Season 4.
No, this is the final season.
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This is it.
OK, this is.
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It Yep.
Yeah, they ran out of ideas.
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Yeah.
Yep.
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So on that note, that is it for
our show.
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You can find us online at
www.phantomhybrid.com.
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We are on social media on all
the social media at Phantom
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Hybrid.
You can watch our videos on our
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YouTube channel, you can chat
with us on our Discord channel,
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major podcast streaming
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platforms.
Thanks for listening.
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We hope you join the
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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here
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with Anthony and Mike and we are
discussing Season 3, episode 4
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of Marvel's What If series and
what is probably Mike's favorite
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episode of the series because
it's starring who else but
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Howard the Ducks.
I know you have been chomping at
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the bit to discuss this one,
haven't you?
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Since I've seen it, but before I
go into it, I didn't totally
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love this episode.
What?
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Stop this fucking with you.
Oh, OK.
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I was about to say, who are you?
And what have you done?
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With Michael Collins.
No, I love that there was there
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were a couple of things that
that were kind of weird about
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this episode for me, like the
whole Casilla Casillas and and
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Fury like fighting and shooting
again, Fury shooting and not
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hitting anybody in the like that
that I was just like Nah.
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Weirder than Howard the Duck
being married to Darcy?
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That, strangely, is not weird.
I mean, it's like I don't the
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way I approach what if is I just
pretty much let them tell me
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what the story is about and I
basically go with it.
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What if is Marvel's version of
Fast and Furious?
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It's just like you won't go into
Fast and Furious looking for
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shit that makes sense because
there's nothing that makes sense
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in Fast and Furious.
OK, it's.
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Like what if I'll give you that.
They're just scenarios.
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So I'm like, though this is a
scenario.
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OK, cool.
Somehow Darcy had today.
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Cool.
Let's go from there.
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I, I don't care.
I love this, the little baby
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kidding me that grew up in the
late 70s that loved kiss loved
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loved them singing I Was Made
for Loving You throughout this
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episode.
I wonder how much they had to
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pay to use that song.
That came off that.
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They came off that.
Yeah.
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But I've, I mean, I loved
everything about.
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I just, it was, it was
incredible to me.
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And I I mean, I mean, down to
the Raiders of the Lost Ark call
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back in the end was dope.
I wasn't I was not expecting
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that, but I was like, cool.
But yes, I love this episode.
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So go ahead, Anthony.
Well, I'm not going to say I
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hated it.
It definitely was not great.
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You're a hard man to please.
Anthony, I'm, I'm trying, Mike,
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I really ain't.
And I appreciate the effort, I
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really do.
I appreciate the.
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Effort.
I I appreciate that you say that
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is very much one of those things
where what if is you just go
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with it no matter how ridiculous
the circumstances are.
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But I would kind of argue that
the reason why I would, if it
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kind of works, is it is
plausible.
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You know, there is something
that could be based on certain
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decisions or choices.
Yeah, it can stretch a little
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bit.
You know, like Infinity Ultron
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trying to wipe.
Out all life.
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You know strange, You know
whether we, whether we call him
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sinister strange.
Yeah.
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Or, you know, yeah.
But however, I don't know, I I
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didn't, it didn't bother me that
it was Darcy and Howard being
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married.
It didn't bother me.
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They had a kid.
But once again, we have an
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episode where they decide to
throw in the kitchen sink, like,
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oh, you remember all those
obscure characters that people
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just kind of halfway remember?
Let's throw them in the episode.
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You know, this is put them in
here.
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You know, Cassilius Frost, Loki,
this this is dirham all in here
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just just for the.
Center K Silly is an obscure
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character considering he was
like the main villain of a whole
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Doctor Strange movie.
Doctor Strange movie that that a
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lot of people didn't see OK, OK
I.
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Mean just like they didn't bring
back him or Dorma movies like
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they brought back Mordo, but
they didn't bring back either
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one of them.
So it's like, I mean, they kind
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of you and plus they really
Causilius was AI didn't like
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Causilius in the 1st Doctor
Strange movie.
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He was kind of a forgettable
character for me.
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It's just like I didn't really
miss him in much Multiverse and
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madness.
I was just like, you know, he
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didn't have to show up.
It's just I didn't I didn't like
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that performance.
So that's what best place, yeah
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should have been, but.
But my, my main thing is again,
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we we've gotten away from the
spirit of what if, like it
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wasn't it wasn't a particular
decision that changed the course
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of events.
Really.
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It's just the story.
Like this is just this just is a
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stand alone or could be a stand
alone episode of just Oh,
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wouldn't it be cool if Darcy and
Hal got married and had the baby
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and the baby was born during the
convergence and the baby is
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important because it's pop.
OK, but it doesn't to me, it
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doesn't go with the spirit of
what if.
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And, and I guess I'm starting to
become I'm starting to become
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less enamoured with the show
because it seems over the last
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couple seasons, this is getting
further and further away from
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the what if premise.
Like I would prefer to just have
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what if standalone episodes and
not episode says it's going to
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tie into some overarching thing
or whatever 'cause it's
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obviously what they're, they're
going towards.
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So I don't know.
It was I, it was I, you know, it
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was just, I, I mean, I'm, I'm,
it wasn't as referential as a
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previous episode, but it did
have these characters that
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you're just like, oh, and Fury,
this was, you're right.
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This was so uncharacteristically
not right.
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I have a.
Theory about that.
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I have a theory about that.
Why?
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It wasn't really fury that it
was probably one of the scrolls
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or whatever.
OK, Yeah.
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That was some percent scroll,
yeah.
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That, that, that, yeah, I mean.
Obviously that that was this.
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Is just this is just like in the
Marvels when he was like, come
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on, black girl magic.
I'm like.
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OK.
Even though fury out was funny
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as shit to me, like every time
you said it I busted.
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I busted my ass out laughing.
I was so confused when he said
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it 'cause I was like since when
did Fury start doing that?
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Like, it's so weird, but so I'm
going to go opposite of Anthony
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because I won't say that I like
love this episode because of
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necessarily the story, but I
just thought it was one of the
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funnier episodes.
And coming off of the last two
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episodes, which were, you know,
kind of mixed for me, I laughed
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a lot during this one.
And I think that's why I liked
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it.
And then not to mention, you
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know, like I said, one of the
things I love about what if is
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that you take these characters
that generally don't have
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anything to do with each other
in the MCU and you kind of put
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them together.
And in this one, it was so funny
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because you have so the premise,
the, the premise of the show is
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this whole thing like you say,
Anthony, about Howard the duck
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and Darcy getting married and
they have this baby that's,
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that's an egg that they're
waiting to hatch.
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And because this, this egg was,
I don't even know how to
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describe it.
She didn't lay the egg.
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She claims she gave birth to it
after she was in labor.
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So while she was in labor during
the convergence, apparently
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they're supposed to be this
great cosmic being that was, you
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know, conceived at this time,
which is supposedly Darcy and
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Howard's egg.
And so you have everybody in
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this universe literally trying
to come and get this egg.
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So you see the Grandmaster, you
see Yondu and the Ravagers, you
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see SHIELD.
As far as Nick Fury and Agent
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Coulson.
You have Caseilius, you have
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Laufe, you have Zeus of all
people.
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You have the Dark Elves, you
have Ebony Ma, you have Thanos,
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and you have all of these
different villains or characters
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from all these different Marvel
properties coming together, but
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separately trying to get this
egg.
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And I just thought it was so
funny because you get to see
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like them not only fighting to
get the egg, you're they're
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fighting each other.
There's a little bit of comic
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banter going on.
I just thought it was a funny
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episode.
And then you have Howard and
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Darcy together, which, OK, I
make the joke about them being
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together, but it's so funny
because I feel like they are a
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perfect pairing, like they play
off each other very well.
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And so I just, I really liked it
because I thought it was funny.
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It was very light, even though
people were trying to kidnap or
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either eat their egg.
What the fuck, Grandmaster?
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But even though that was the
case, it was just very light
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hearted and I didn't really need
it to mean something bigger
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because I think if you look at
the previous three episodes for
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this particular season, I don't
really see where the characters
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are going to converge.
And it'd be a bigger story, kind
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of like the last two seasons
with Captain Carter and how this
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became kind of her story.
So it was, I mean, it was fun to
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me.
I wasn't looking for anything
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kind of, I think because of the
last couple of episodes, I'm
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just kind of like not expecting
anything.
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I'm not expecting some grand
story.
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I'm not expecting any big
reveals.
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I was just like, I, I went into
this knowing it was going to be
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ridiculous because it's Howard
the Duck.
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And I was just like, OK, let me
see what they're going to do.
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And I actually enjoyed it was it
was a lot of fun.
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So Anthony's look like no.
No, absolutely not it.
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I.
I didn't laugh, not one time.
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Except maybe.
Except maybe when I realized
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they were going to eat the egg
and I chuckled.
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You are so dark.
The best thing about this
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episode was the freaking kiss
song.
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I mean that that that was it.
Wow, you are a tough cookie to
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crack.
Yeah, that's a great song.
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Now the song the.
Song that's that's one of their
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best songs that's.
That's a great song.
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It is.
It's a great song.
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You can't read the episode.
Wow.
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You did, Anthony.
This is with me.
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The holiday.
Scene it is with you we're
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supposed to be.
Bringing in here.
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Whatever I I'm, I'm sorry, I'm
expecting.
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I mean, I'm not expecting
greatness anymore, but I do have
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a certain level level of
expectation when I watch
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something and this did not meet
even the bare minimum
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expectation.
Wow.
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Well, the last episode was by
far superior to this episode.
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Wow.
The last episode was clearly
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funnier than this.
The last episode had me dying.
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The one liners everything.
This thing Zeus Russell Crowe is
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freaking ridiculous.
It's absolutely stupid the whole
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episode.
But that's not Russell Crowe,
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so.
I mean, I'm just saying that
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version of Zeus, Yeah, he was
obviously trying to channel that
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version of Zeus, and it is this
is this.
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That was like, blah.
Oh God, I was.
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Kind.
Of surprised that they threw him
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in there because.
Why?
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Why are you not surprised?
I'm not surprised.
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I'm just saying because if if
you want to say if you want to
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talk about obscure characters.
And even though I know Zeus is
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not an obscure character in
anything by far, but the fact
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that we just got introduced to
that character in Thor, Love and
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Thunder, and it's kind of like,
only briefly.
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And then they bring him in here,
which, OK, yeah.
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What if kind of does that?
But it was just, I guess,
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strange in that sense because,
like, why would he need the
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baby?
He's Zeus.
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But yeah.
But I mean, it's that version of
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Zeus.
It's like, 'cause there's so
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many versions that have come out
that portray him wild wildly
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differently.
I mean, we just had Jeff
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Goldblum as Zeus and Chaos, so
it's like they're.
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This version, you can't, you
can't do that, Mike.
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It's a completely different
property.
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I know, yeah.
He's just talking about.
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Zeus in general let.
Me finish, Let me finish cheese.
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Anthony said we are not about to
say anything to convince him to
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like this episode.
I'm.
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Look, I'm just saying look, this
this version of Zeus I can
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believe would want something
that could help him continue his
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reign as far as being the king.
I can see I can see him going
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after that also real quick.
I know this doesn't this episode
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kind of to me this I don't know
about y'all, but I mean,
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honestly, this episode with the
baby, I'm I just for some
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reason, I think that there's
something else with her.
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I mean, she's really important,
obviously, or the everybody
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wouldn't be going through all
this trouble to get her.
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So there has to be some kind of
time thread.
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And as we've seen in what if
they take multiple episodes
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sometimes and tie different
things together and put
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different things to get to the
point of the final episode or
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the penultimate episode to get
there.
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So I would just hold off, hold
off judgement until then, but
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but I don't know why I'm talking
to you because you're not you're
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not even listening to me.
I'm.
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Listening to every word you're
saying.
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Every word.
Alright, but I every word.
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I mean you.
I can't believe you.
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You didn't.
You didn't find Loki selling
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timeshares in selling ice giant
timeshares funny like that
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wasn't funny to you?
No, it wasn't.
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You're my brother from another
mother's old lady, sister from
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another mist.
No, he wasn't funny.
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Really funny.
No, no, nothing.
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Nothing about this episode was.
Wow, Anthony is the Ebenezer
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Scrooge from the What If scene.
You had to.
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At least, at least I'm I'm
sitting the first fury out.
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You had to have laughed the
first fury out.
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I almost cried at the death of
one of my favorite beloved
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characters.
I'm like.
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See, you know what?
No, whatever it.
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Can't be any worse than Secret
Invasion.
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No, nothing would ever be as bad
as that, OK?
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No, I would.
I would never disparage to a bad
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degree.
OK.
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As long as long as we're
straight on that.
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We're talking about this
particular episode.
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This specific episode is this.
I don't know.
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I'm watching it and I'm like,
this is stupid.
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And it just kept getting Dumber
and Dumber and Dumber and, you
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know, the bright spots, the
song, Darcy and Howard.
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That's it.
I could've done without
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everything else.
That adorable baby, that baby,
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that baby wasn't keep.
I mean.
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You had.
You had.
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Yeah, but we didn't even see the
babies reveal until the end of
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the episode.
So, I mean, yeah, she she's cute
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and all, but it was.
It was so strange.
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Yeah, the whole egg thing, that
was kind of weird because when
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Darcy had her, she's like, Oh
yeah, she looks like me and I'm
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like, it's an egg.
How does she look like those
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little things?
Mothers know, you know, you know
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this as you know this too.
Mothers know exactly everything
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about their children.
So, you know, she knew that it
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looked just like her.
I wish those of you who are just
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listening, I wish you could see
the little Anthony and I are
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giving mic right now.
Mothers.
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Know mothers know these things.
As far as I've been reading, I
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don't know.
Yeah, no, that, that was kind of
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strange.
I do enjoy the fact that they
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are getting a lot of the the
original actors who portrayed
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these characters in live action
to come back and do the voice
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overs.
I do love that part because even
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even for the small parts, just
to hear the familiarity, like
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Michael Rooker being Yondu and
only being on screen for like
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maybe 2 minutes tops, I was just
like, hey, it's Rooker.
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I like that, you know, and I
think the person, there's an
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actor who actually did the voice
dubbing for the grandmaster in
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this episode, and it was not
Jeff Goldblum.
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He sounds so much like him, and
I thought he did a really,
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really good job.
They do have a lot of talent
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coming in to do the voice work
for these these particular
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episodes, so I do appreciate
that.
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Yeah, I could appreciate that.
And they did some great work.
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They really did, you know.
And it's like, that's about all
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I got.
Wow.
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I don't even know.
We should have a longer episode
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because Anthony just did not
like this episode.
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It makes me sad.
I said that I can't say, I can't
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say I hated it is this is blah,
this is but I, I was really
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struggling to watch it to to
make it through the episode.
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OK, so, so of the four episodes
we've seen so far, where does
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this rank for you?
I I don't even need to ask Mike.
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I already know you'd.
Be surprised if you asking.
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Me, yeah, Of the four episodes,
this is definitely last place.
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Really.
Even even under the the Agatha
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episode.
Yeah.
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Oh wow.
Agatha.
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Agatha would be 3, the mash up
would be two, and last episode
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would be one.
Oh, OK, to Seth.
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Green and Kat Dennings The views
reviews presented by Anthony are
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not the views of Phantom Hybrid
dot.
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Com My issue was not with Darcy
and Howard.
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It really was, yeah.
He did say that.
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He said that they they kind of
carried the episode, you know,
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because of the the the chemistry
with those two characters.
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Like those two characters are,
are funny.
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And it's like, I kind of sort of
want to see this in live action
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as weird as it is, but it just,
I don't know, something about
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those two characters work.
So.
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I love, I love Darth.
I think, I think they're just, I
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can't wait to see how their,
their kid, their kid turns out.
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Because the kids going to be
sarcastic, mouthy and smart just
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like they are.
And it's going to be fucking
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awesome.
Yeah, they'll be.
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It's going to be a younger
combination of them.
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It's going to be great and
brilliant and hilarious, Sir.
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And she has powers, so that's
going to be interesting because
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you know, you know what you
didn't?
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You didn't get you didn't get
hyped over over the baby doing
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the Indiana Jones rated Raiders
of the Lost Ark fatality on
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everybody around them.
Yeah, except for the people that
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matter.
They conveniently were able to
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dodge.
So, so it's still the Indiana
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Jones and what's her name?
What's your point?
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That's that's kind of what
happens.
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What I mean, I think what she
did was she she targeted the
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people that were trying to
either kill her, eat her or
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destroy her.
And the ones who she spared,
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like Nick Fury and Coulson
weren't trying to harm her.
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They were trying to protect her.
And they didn't think that a
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regular human person and a like
they said, a outlaw duck would
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be able to protect them.
So it's not like they were
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trying to harm her.
So they would have naturally
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been spared.
Of course, yeah.
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And a.
Gambling addict ducks.
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That's what he Zeus left.
Loki and Laffy were, you know,
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Loki wasn't trying to harm her.
Loki was actually trying to help
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her parents.
Laffy was just like, well.
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Every everyone was trying to
kidnap her except the
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Grandmaster.
He was the only one trying to
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eat her, but that's neither here
nor there.
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Yeah, he.
He's a grandmaster who could
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explain anything that he does.
That is.
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True.
Like he's weird.
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That.
Is true when?
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When Celius just wanted what?
You what's?
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The Rosemary Band Rosemary.
That was actually, I think I did
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chuckle at that.
I did chuckle at that because
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that was funny.
That was funny.
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OK, we found one thing.
OK.
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But yeah, I mean, I, I think if
if this is a, a a being with
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cosmic powers, and I don't know
why Aladdin just came into my
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head because I was about to say
itty bitty living space.
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I mean, she's trapped inside of
Edward, but if she's a being
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with cosmic powers, she should
be able to detect all the people
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who are trying to harm her and
single them out.
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So that is actually not as
implausible as it sounds, you
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know, And then especially when
you think about the The Watchers
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narration in the beginning and
he said something about this
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being a, you know, a cosmic
being that will have, what did
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he say will be very important to
the universe or has a big, I, I
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can't remember what the wording
was, but obviously she's going
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to be important for something.
And kind of like you said, Mike,
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we may see something with her
later on there.
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This is still only episode 4.
So we still have 4 episodes
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before the end of the series, so
she may show up a little bit
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later and be important because
like you.
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Yeah, they did a whole episode
on her.
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It's like there has to be
something.
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It's like a whole episode on a
baby.
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On trying to protect her.
So yeah.
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But yeah, I just, I don't know
what else to say since, I mean,
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Anthony doesn't like it.
We like it.
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I thought it, like I said, I
thought it was funny.
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I thought it was it was kind of
light and it was, you know, it
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was very fun.
But again, I think this is one
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of those episodes too where, you
know, we talk about this with
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the other what if series.
They always throw an episode in
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the middle that that kind of
doesn't make a lot of sense and
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it seems a little more light
hearted.
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And then the episodes we get
after that are a little bit
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darker.
So maybe that's what is and what
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was what it was supposed to be
kind of like that palate
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cleanser before they get our
dark with us.
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I mean, we are coming to the end
of the series as a whole, not
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just the season.
So there's probably going to be
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death in there.
See I thought last so was was
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light and and not as dark.
This one they're literally
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trying to eat.
He's literally going to serve
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the egg as the baby has dinner
and another character is going
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to possess her with a demon from
another dimension.
408
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,560
Yeah, my.
Definition of light is a little
409
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:07,200
bit.
Off and look.
410
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,960
This is this is actually all.
These people trying to kidnap,
411
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,520
not even a newborn, I mean
literally a newborn.
412
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,320
They're all trying to kidnap his
newborn.
413
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,440
It's not light hearted to me.
Look, this is this is basically
414
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,520
a continuation of the party Thor
episode because they shouldn't
415
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,800
be because they got married in a
party Thor episode.
416
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,960
They met in the party Thor
episode.
417
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,960
This is basically a spinoff of
that.
418
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,560
So yes, it is.
It is a light hearted palate
419
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,880
cleanser until we get into delve
into the deepness that's
420
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,800
probably getting ready to come
and probably send us into a
421
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,400
spiraling depression.
So just enjoy it for what it is
422
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:46,840
and laugh at the parts that I
know you laughed at and just,
423
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,600
you know, just just appreciate
it.
424
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,240
I mean they did a who?
They did the who's on 1st joke
425
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,200
for nowhere that that that was
they.
426
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,240
Did The Who?
They did the what joke?
427
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,040
The no doing, he said.
Oh, they're, oh, I don't know
428
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,520
where they're going.
They're going to nowhere.
429
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,240
Nowhere.
Nowhere.
430
00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,440
Nowhere.
What are they doing?
431
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,400
Nowhere.
Yeah, I think that joke held on
432
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,240
a little bit too long.
I do.
433
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,080
I will say that.
But you know.
434
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,640
That that joke is low hanging
fruit for a writer.
435
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,760
It really is.
No, I mean, I know, I know, but.
436
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,720
But the thing had a lot, it had
a lot of lot of really cool
437
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,480
Easter eggs too.
Like, I mean, when they were
438
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,080
getting ready to get on the
ship, they said they said they
439
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,120
had they offered Cliff diving on
Vormer.
440
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,280
I'm like.
And and it's an experience that
441
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,360
you can only enjoy with someone
you love.
442
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,720
I was like y'all are dead dead
ass wrong for that.
443
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,560
That was funniest that was, that
was that was funny and you had
444
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,200
to be paying attention for that.
That was cool shit.
445
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,000
And shout shout out to shout out
to Howard the Duck being a
446
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,960
Android user 'cause he used
Google Translate to find out
447
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,840
what the map, what the menu was
saying.
448
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,600
Yeah, that that menu, I tell
you, the grandmaster, he's just
449
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,800
one of those characters is just
like this.
450
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,240
Just when you think he can't
sink any lower, then you get to
451
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,120
see him again and you get to see
just how low he can go.
452
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,400
So, yeah.
But oh, OK, Anthony didn't like
453
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,560
the episode.
Me and Mike liked the episode.
454
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:23,880
I didn't see.
I didn't.
455
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Like it, he said.
It was OK.
456
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,560
Right.
I'm sorry, I Yeah, GHT was I
457
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,400
really?
Don't think there's too much
458
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,600
more to say about the episode
then is.
459
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,720
And I'm and I'm hurt by this.
I'm like, I'm like, we're not,
460
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,280
we're not even at 30 minutes
yet.
461
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,200
We're like almost done.
I'm like, man.
462
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,280
OK, well, what?
I mean to be here's some here's
463
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,640
some I.
I do like the the locations that
464
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,280
we went to.
We went to nowhere, you know, I
465
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,720
have to go to.
Yodenheim.
466
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,160
Yodenheim, yeah.
So I to be fair, Mike, the
467
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,760
episode was not really overly
complicated.
468
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,480
And I think that's why there's
not a lot of discussion for us
469
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,800
because it's not like there were
varying plots and it's not like
470
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,960
there were a lot of characters
that we were like usually kind
471
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,640
of dissecting what they're, you
know, what their motives are and
472
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,800
all this other stuff.
There's not a lot of conflict.
473
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,920
It's literally everybody is
trying to get hands on this baby
474
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,560
because the baby was born during
the convergence.
475
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,480
Yeah.
So it's it's kind of simplified.
476
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:38,640
There isn't really isn't a lot
to dissect with this one, for
477
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,800
lack of better words.
I was, I was kind of out, I kind
478
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,920
of confused convergence with
emergence.
479
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,400
I was like, oh, does that mean
that that the that the the
480
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,920
celestials coming out or I was
like, oh, convergence that's.
481
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,120
Like the convergence?
OK, yeah, because they, because
482
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,280
this is what I get for, for
bringing up, bringing up the
483
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,600
Eternals in the, in the Agatha
episode.
484
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,480
I've been, I've been thinking
like that that's got to pay off
485
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,520
somehow too.
Cause like, 'cause they don't
486
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,760
do, that's what they do is like
they don't bring something up
487
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,880
that's not going to pay off.
So I was like, so I had, I had
488
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,000
to, had to kind of think about
that too.
489
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,600
Yeah.
So disappointed, doesn't it?
490
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,640
Yeah, but but throwing these
things in from from movies and
491
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,040
stories which weren't very
popular is just a little odd,
492
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:27,040
you know, to me.
It kind of makes me wonder if
493
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,520
they're actually like, I know
that they've announced that
494
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,600
they're not going to do the
Eternals, too.
495
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,840
I know that they're, you know,
some of the other properties
496
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,600
that we've seen are kind of
questionable or in the air.
497
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,080
Like, like I said, we don't know
if there's going to be a Shang
498
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,360
Shi too.
We don't know if Moonlight
499
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,400
Season 2 is going to come, but
they are throwing these
500
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,760
characters in there.
So it makes me wonder if maybe
501
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,640
we will still see these
characters at some point in live
502
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,240
action, just maybe not in their
own things.
503
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,680
And that's why they're kind of
putting them in here, maybe to
504
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,880
familiarize people with the
characters.
505
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,680
But again, that goes back to
that conversation that we've had
506
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,000
about the people who watch the
shows versus the people who
507
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:16,040
watch the movies and whether or
not those two audiences are
508
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,160
going to converge.
You know I.
509
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,880
Mean, but what?
What's the point of the of
510
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,600
throwing in the Dark elves?
We're not going to see the Dark
511
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Elves again.
No, but I think that.
512
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,040
We're not going to see.
We're not going to see, we're
513
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,120
not going to see Zeus in in
again because I doubt if they do
514
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,120
another Thor movie.
They're supposed to.
515
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,400
They're supposed to be a Thor
movie.
516
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,000
But I'm I'm not hanging my head
on that.
517
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,360
So, and, and I mean they, they
did, they did kind of throw out
518
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,080
throughout Hercules there.
So if Hercules comes back, then
519
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,960
Zeus kind of ties into that too.
So you never know.
520
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,400
Yeah, so the other ones like the
Dark Elves, KK, silliest and all
521
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,760
that.
That goes back to what you said
522
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,800
in the last episode, Anthony,
about the throwbacks, you know,
523
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:07,200
just kind of, you know, those
references maybe, you know, just
524
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,440
for fun or just because, you
know, hey, let's just give them
525
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,920
all these different enemies who
would want them for different
526
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,760
reasons.
I mean, if you think about what
527
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,960
Birdie is supposed to represent
this cosmic power, and she may
528
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,920
have something to do with, you
know, the the greater universe
529
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,360
in in general, the dark elves
were looking for power in Thor,
530
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,720
The Dark World.
We know that Lafi was looking
531
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,760
for domination.
We know K Celius was looking for
532
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,160
a vessel for Dormammu.
So I mean, and well, Thanos
533
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,520
didn't even Thanos was like
y'all called me for it.
534
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,920
Like really Ebony Mall was like,
but he's a magical egg.
535
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,320
Magical.
Like OK but I mean got bigger
536
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,680
fish to fry.
Shout to Ebony Mall using
537
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,160
Groupon to get to get a deal on
A to get a deal on a conference
538
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,720
space.
On a conference space for a
539
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,600
resort that hasn't even opened
yet.
540
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaking of which, the fact that
Loki and Laffy offered the the
541
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,440
the the Ducks a a comped room in
the lodge.
542
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,120
I'm like, what lodge?
Zeus destroyed it when he got
543
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,000
They ain't.
No lodge no more.
544
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,720
It's gone.
So yeah.
545
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,840
So yeah, I thought, I thought
that was funny as shit, though.
546
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,160
It was like they they came down
and they were like, don't take
547
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,520
our don't you?
No, you have to take our baby.
548
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,400
And they're like, no, we're here
for a conference.
549
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,080
Like we're here for a
conference, but you said magical
550
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,280
baby.
Exactly.
551
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,640
OK, we can do that.
But yeah.
552
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,440
It it's it's really almost as if
these things are really written
553
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:47,480
for people like us who go into
the minutiae of the MCU.
554
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,920
Yeah.
And the comics, they are into
555
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:57,000
all of this weird and strange
stuff, you know, it's just, I
556
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,200
don't know, I'm still, I'm still
a little sore from one division.
557
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,520
I know I I.
Know it's it's hard.
558
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,440
It's hard to heal.
They will forever be trying to
559
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,640
have having to make that up to
you because but.
560
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,680
It's like they've, they've,
they've really leaned into it,
561
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,240
Like really leaned into this.
Yeah.
562
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,000
And they also have like.
They have a habit of making
563
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:29,120
these references that don't
necessarily pan out, You know,
564
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,600
just throwing stuff in there.
Like you said, for those of us
565
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,120
who are kind of deeper into it,
you guys more than I, because
566
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,840
you guys are more familiar with
the comics.
567
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:42,320
But just like even in the Agatha
show, when they mentioned
568
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,320
Mephisto, it's kind of like, why
would you even throw that name
569
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,920
in there if if there's nothing
going to come out of it?
570
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,120
Like you guys have been
mentioned in Mephisto or the
571
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,120
possibility of Mephisto ever
since One Division I, you know,
572
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,440
that was like one of the things
that kind of threw you off.
573
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:05,200
So yeah, I guess we just have to
see where they go with this and
574
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,280
whether or not it's going to
have bigger implications and
575
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,920
other stores.
I just don't.
576
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,640
I mean, it's weird because OK,
for example, creature Commandos,
577
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,800
like everybody in creature
commandos is going that's
578
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,200
playing the doing the voice
acting is going to be in live
579
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,160
action.
When they when they do live, I
580
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,520
do that in live action.
So it actually transfers.
581
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,280
But this is actually the reverse
of it.
582
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,760
It's like they they're trying to
get a lot of, they get seventy,
583
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,200
7580% of the actors who actually
played the part to do the voice
584
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,680
acting.
So maybe 8085%, but it's like
585
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,720
they're they're trying to like
draw a parallel.
586
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,960
But I don't think that certain
things that they haven't done,
587
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,120
haven't really delved into like
as much as I want it in my
588
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,440
heart, they're probably not
going to do a Howard the Duck
589
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,720
movie.
And I'm probably not going to
590
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:05,520
see, I'm probably not going to
see little baby Birdie as a full
591
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,199
as a full blown adult.
I'm probably not going to see
592
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,560
how like unless I mean, if they
delve into it, they're they're
593
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,080
not going to do it because
they've already risked they
594
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,159
they'll probably feel they've
already risked that with
595
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:19,600
Eternals and it didn't work out.
And they don't have James Gunn
596
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,880
to turn it, to give it whatever
magic he has to turn something
597
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,920
obscure into a cult classic.
And it's like until they find
598
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,480
that they're not really going to
delve into something that they
599
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,000
don't think is going to become
profitable, popular and a
600
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,600
staple.
It's just like they're they're
601
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,199
going, they're going to kind of
stay the course and do things,
602
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,840
do things that are familiar.
And anytime they stray out is
603
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,719
going to have a direct
connection to something that's
604
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,840
already been established.
So it's just like they're not
605
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,719
going to they're not going to
take that risk again because
606
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,240
they've been burned too many
times.
607
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:02,320
So we're just going to have to
wait and see if we if see how
608
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,560
secret, see how everything pans
out.
609
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,200
Like if Secret Wars and every
all the other stuff that they're
610
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,240
doing actually goes back up to
the level that if that Infinity
611
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:16,600
Ward in game was that like,
maybe they'll, they'll
612
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,640
reconsider it.
But I don't think they will
613
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,320
'cause, you know, once I've been
twice shy.
614
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,800
Yeah, yeah.
OK.
615
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,440
Well, you guys have any final
thoughts to say about this
616
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,240
episode?
Fine, I'll in the words of
617
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:32,840
Thanos.
Fine, I'll do it myself.
618
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,840
All right.
Shout out to the Grandmaster
619
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,920
when they were when they were
sitting seated for dinner,
620
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,840
raising himself, then looking to
the side and lowering Darcy and
621
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,320
Howard.
That was funny as shit.
622
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,120
I'm like, really?
You weren't high enough to help?
623
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,640
It's like, that was awesome to
me.
624
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,000
Shout out to another little
Easter egg, Casillas.
625
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,960
When, when, when Yandu said that
he has a whole lot of offers.
626
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,320
He's like, sorry, sorry, Dumamu
doesn't bargain anymore And like
627
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,120
and took the egg from him like
when they when they were in,
628
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,800
when they were in nowhere, He
said Dumamu doesn't bargain.
629
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,600
I'm like, yeah, he got.
He already got burned by that by
630
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,800
Doctor Strange.
See.
631
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,360
Yeah.
OK, I was laughing at you.
632
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,440
Hey, your job.
You should be a writer on this
633
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,200
stuff.
I should right.
634
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:27,120
OK, so shout out to Loki
thinking he was going to be a
635
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,480
godfather after when they when
they got up, when they when they
636
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,440
were there, they were like that
whole that whole conversation
637
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,080
was hilarious to me.
Like like Loki is just, it's so
638
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,480
weird seeing Loki aloof and not
really kind of.
639
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,120
Dialed in trying to take over
the world.
640
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,080
Yeah, and not really knowing
what's going on, like I thought
641
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,560
that was hilarious to me.
Shout to the watcher.
642
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,440
Always being in the bedroom.
It's kind of creepy, but him
643
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,560
being in the background in the.
In the nursery, yeah, that was
644
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,120
kind of creepy.
That was kind of creepy.
645
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,720
I was like.
Yeah, OK, buddy.
646
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:14,920
I also I love it's a huge fury
said first time mom and gambling
647
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,960
addict.
He was like, hey, I'm I'm in
648
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,040
recovery.
I got a chip that's not the
649
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,000
right chip cause.
What kind of chip was that was
650
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,360
that he was holding?
I didn't.
651
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,760
I didn't.
See, it looked like looked like
652
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,440
one of the chips that he had
when in from last year's last
653
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,480
year's first episode, the the
Blade Runner episode where he
654
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,560
was running the Oh, OK.
OK, it's kind.
655
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,480
Of like a ship like that, yeah,
so.
656
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,480
And anyway, OK, Iris, like I
said in previous episodes, Iris
657
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,840
I, I have changed my ways.
I respect everybody's opinion on
658
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,800
everything, especially Anthony,
because he's one of the smartest
659
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:55,000
guys I know and he's one guys
that I respect thoroughly as far
660
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,840
as as far as nerdy things and
other things, 'cause he's
661
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,720
outstandingly smart, man.
However, I love this episode.
662
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,160
It was hilarious.
I've watched it at least four
663
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040
times since it came out.
Of course I have and.
664
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,720
Only for and.
Well, well OK for then all the
665
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,720
reactions that people had to it
and ironically, some of the
666
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,640
other people had had similar
reactions to and the end with
667
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,800
Anthony to this.
So I'm like maybe just maybe
668
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,920
people and I I I want to quote
the words of the pig in of the
669
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,360
of the Mr. Potato Head in Toy
Story.
670
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,560
You want to cultured swine.
This this is this is this is the
671
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,040
height of film culture to be OK
to me.
672
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,880
But in in in short, might be.
Going a little far with that.
673
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,720
I'm just saying, but yes, I I
love I love this episode.
674
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:50,560
Like, and this is just it me, me
watching what if actually makes
675
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,880
me want to break out my what if
cart.
676
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,200
I would have comic books and
read and read them, reread them
677
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,680
again just so I just so I can
get that feeling.
678
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,320
But yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed
this.
679
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,160
OK, we're not going to ask
Anthony because we already know
680
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,600
how Anthony feels about this
episode.
681
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,120
I'm just saying, you know, we
don't need to, we don't need to
682
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,600
end on a negative note or kind
of sort of negative note.
683
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,680
We know it's OK for you.
And that's fine.
684
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,520
Because, you know, I think we
talked about this in one of the
685
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,000
previous episodes.
The what if series is kind of
686
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,320
like you have your highs and you
have your lows and sometimes you
687
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,560
kind of like right in the
middle.
688
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,160
And I think we've all, for the
most part, been kind of sort of
689
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:33,240
split on these 4 episodes, which
I think is really interesting
690
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,120
because when it comes to certain
things, Anthony and I usually
691
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,760
agree a lot.
And then when it comes to
692
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,840
others, Mike and I usually agree
a lot.
693
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,960
And then sometimes you guys
agree and I'm kind of left, you
694
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,040
know, out in left field.
So I think it's very interesting
695
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,240
to see where our opinions vary
in these particular episodes.
696
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,680
So I'm looking forward to seeing
what the next 4 episodes bring
697
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,360
and how we'll feel about those.
But do you?
698
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,760
Do you?
You know, if there's going to be
699
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,320
Season 4.
No, this is the final season.
700
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,520
This is it.
OK, this is.
701
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,040
It Yep.
Yeah, they ran out of ideas.
702
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,960
Yeah.
Yep.
703
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,360
So on that note, that is it for
our show.
704
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,960
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705
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,120
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706
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707
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,000
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708
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709
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710
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