Outlander: Blood of My Blood (Season 1 Episode 1) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #369

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Michelle and our special
guest Dina, our friend from

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Drunk and blurty.
She's here with us tonight and

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we are discussing the new star
series Outlander Blood of my

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blood.
This is a prequel of the

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Outlander series that we have
enjoyed for seven seasons so

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far.
This show takes place in the

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early 1700s and it gives us the
parallel love stories of the

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parents of both Jamie Fraser and
Claire Randall Fraser.

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So let's get into it first.
Thoughts.

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How did you guys enjoy the show?
It was very well done, very in

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the vein of the original.
Things that kept me captivated

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in the original kept me
captivated here.

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I I would say the one thing that
I have to like suspend my

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disbelief on is that they just
happen to kind of meet the same

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people and it was destined for
them to kind of be on this path.

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But other than that, I it was
amazing and it Oh my God, let me

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just tell you all the crushes I
have yeah, beautiful.

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We will get, we will get to that
because.

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There's a lot going on.
There's a lot going on.

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What about you, Michelle, 'cause
I know you just got a chance to

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watch the episode today, right?
Yes, and I really yes, I really

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did enjoy it.
Like I'm so I love, I guess you

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would say this was a prequel.
I do, because I always like to

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know how we got to this point.
So it was it was just actually

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cool.
And then I can see how where

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Jamie got his, like some of his
things about him and his

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characteristics and how he
treats Claire, like I can see it

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already in his parents.
So I like, completely enjoyed

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this.
And it had, yeah, it kept with

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the same, the style was the
same, which I enjoy because

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that's why I enjoy Outlander.
So yeah.

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Yeah, I think it's good that it
has people who were involved in

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the original show.
I think they're using the same

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crew.
So I think that's one of the

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reasons why we feel that
continuity.

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But I, when I say I enjoyed it
and I did something with this

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show that I, I try not to do
with shows too much is I try not

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to pay attention to a lot of the
pre, you know, the pre premiere

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stuff because I don't want to be
tainted.

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But with this one, I was
watching everything.

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I was watching interviews, I was
watching red carpets.

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I was watching everything
because I wanted to see how

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these people kind of interact
with each other off screen.

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And then when I started seeing
it on screen, it was just like,

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I really felt the way that I did
with the first outlandish.

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I was drawn in.
I was just kind of, Oh my God,

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this is amazing, but let's get
into it.

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Let's talk about some things.
The first thing I want to say is

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chef's kiss.
Kudos to the casting department

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because they understood the
assignment.

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When I say the casting in this
show is so freaking impeccable,

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just going from, I mean, even
with the kids, the fact that I

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don't know if you guys are
aware, but the younger versions

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of Rupert and Angus in this
episode are actually the sons of

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the actors who played Rupert and
Rupert and Angus in the original

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show.
So those little things I liked

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because, you know, kind of see
the spirit of those two

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characters in these kids and
then going all the way up to the

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older kid, to the older cast.
Like if I hadn't have watched

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all the interviews and stuff and
know who they were, I

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immediately could have told you
who was who.

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Because the casting, the the
looks, the the personality like

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they did such a great job.
They did.

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But yeah, I have something that
when I was watching, I was like,

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I need to know what did they do
to Murtaugh to make him before a

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grumpy man later?
I need to know because whatever,

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whoever did something to him, I
need to hurt them.

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Well, you know, light and
fluffy, you know, the one that

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he was in love with, fell in
love with his cousin investors.

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Yeah, but I know that.
But that can't be the one thing

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that just caused him to be that.
I mean, he was like.

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He.
We're going to a party.

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I'm like what the hell is
happening?

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He was giving young Ian, like,
his little smile.

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Yeah.
Young Ian, like that sweetness.

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Adorable.
Yeah.

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I was like, I'm ready to fight
for him.

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Like what happened, right?
I mean love, I guess God, oh, I

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mean I guess love containing
that bad.

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But I didn't think it was that,
just that.

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It also made me wonder because
with the whole thing with

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Jacasa, you know, later, it just
made me wonder, 'cause I'm like,

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He is clearly smitten with
Ellen, Yeah.

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But it looks like everyone is
smitten with Ellen.

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And I don't know if it's like, I
know, of course it's she's,

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she's the eldest Mackenzie
daughter.

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She's the one who, you know,
read Jacob doted on.

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But I also feel like part of it
is not necessarily just because

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of her beauty, because all of
the sisters are very beautiful.

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The the, you know, the ones that
they cast.

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I almost feel like that was just
the fact that she is so

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determined not to marry out of
necessity or out of duty, and

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she wants to marry for love.
And I think the fact that she's

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so unattainable makes her more
desirable to these men.

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They're like, oh, she's a single
one.

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Yeah.
Let me you know, because we are

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dealing with the 1700s, we do
know that arranged marriage is a

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big thing back then.
I mean, we also see that these

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characters, like they look at
each other and they're instantly

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in love, which it's hard to kind
of suspend that disbelief

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because I feel like we know a
little bit more now and we're

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like, OK, that's not necessarily
love at first sight.

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It's probably lust.
It's probably don't oh it.

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Is it's interesting.
It's the pheromones.

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It's everything.
No, they got the pheromones are

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out now.
They I mean, what happened to

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days, right?
It ain't been no bad.

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So the pheromones are out, out
and their pheromones like each

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other.
But another thing about Ellen

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that you mentioned about her
being unattainable is also how

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her dad raised her because he
raised her to like shine her

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light.
And at that time, no woman is

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raised to shine their light.
So she's walking around and you

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know when someone is bright and
their light shine even if you

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not even being attracted to him
and sexually like you are just

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attracted to that being and she
has that light around her.

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Yeah, the other.
Thing about that too, is with

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Jacob promising that she would
never have to marry, I'm pretty

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sure he got a lot of people, a
lot of suitors coming in, him

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asking for her hand.
And then he was like, Nah, you

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can't have it, right?
You're not worthy of you.

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Too you too stupid for my
daughter.

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Like, no, I mean, so I mean just
like, what What what you just

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said, Michelle, she's walking
around like, yeah, like you're

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not worthy of my daughter.
I I need her to have someone who

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is going to be her equal,
someone who is going to allow

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her to be her.
I mean, Jacob obviously doted on

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her because she's the only one
out of the out of the five of

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them who seems like really torn
by his death.

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Dougal and Column obviously
didn't really care for him,

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probably because he doted on her
so much to the point where he

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just, you know, even even in the
conversation flashback we have

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from her, he doesn't really
think much of his sons, you

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know, And then Jacosta and
Janet, like Janet, she's clearly

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torn that her dad is gone, but
she also notices she was like,

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you know, Ellen probably loved
him more than anybody, you know,

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and and you can see it in the
flashbacks, the conversations

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that they had together, he very
clearly loved her.

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He respected her.
He basically, if she had been

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born a a man, she would have
been the heir.

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And if times weren't the way
that they were, I think if he

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thought that the clan would
accept a a woman chief, I think

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he would have done that.
He probably would have been the

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first to be like, yeah, you can
be chief because you're the only

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one who's going to know what to
do, you know?

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But the fact that now he's gone
and again, these parents,

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parents, if you have property,
if you have riches and have

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anything that right, please do
your will.

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Please handle your ships so that
we don't have this kind of thing

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going on.
Look at the chief of Saris.

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Right.
I was about to see you know what

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I was about to say that like
because here he trained his

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daughter to to lead team because
she wasn't going to be a leader.

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You know I can't, but at least
help your daughter out.

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Some I think he felt like she
could.

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She could at least steer her
brothers.

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Whichever 1 he chose, he could
at least help steer them to make

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the correct decisions.
Unfortunately for him, it seems

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like his passing was very sudden
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He was like, I have no plans on
dying, you know, anytime soon.

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And then, yeah, but he still
should have have chosen one.

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But I feel like he didn't know
who to choose.

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He didn't he.
Didn't he?

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Was he almost?
He was almost fully like, you

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know what?
Just, you know.

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I mean, he would have definitely
chosen column just because

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column is more steady and more
even my even tempered and and he

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thinks.
But he just wouldn't have

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trusted that Colin was gonna be
able to keep, you know, keep the

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client safe, keep and keep
Dougal in check.

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Oh, my God.
OK, so.

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So since you talked about the
the show crushes earlier, Dougal

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is an asshole in this show.
But my goodness, my goodness,

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that love would.
Be fair, Graham was also.

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That.
His Dougal was also.

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Yes, he was.
And that was the, that's the

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thing like and.
Lovable.

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Again, the casting, the casting
department, they knew what they

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were doing because this young
guy who was playing Dougal, I

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was like, like it is he related
to Graham at all?

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Or it's like he's channeling
what Graham did with Ogre do

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older Dougal.
But he's a he's a lot more

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intense in this one because, of
course, right now he's emotional

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right now the the the future of
the clan is kind of at stake.

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So he and his brother, like he
and column.

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I always know in the show that
they had their disagreements,

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they had their dislikes.
They literally are plotting to

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kill each other in this episode
because they want this so bad.

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I was just like, wow, this is so
intense.

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But Oh my God, at the same time,
it's so I don't know if I want

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to say sexy it is.
But yeah, there's some.

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There's something very, very raw
about this.

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Dougal.
Yes, very proud.

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Yeah, that is very attractive.
And I was just like even, yes,

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that's, that's exactly right.
I need you.

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To say that of like him being
basically humbled under columns

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rule made him into the Google.
We knew an Outlander, right?

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But he ain't nowhere near that
right now, no.

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He on the loose, he on the wow,
I mean.

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He is just as soon.
As I saw him, I was like, that's

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Google.
I do it so when when they

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started doing the trailers and
the sneak peeks and and you see,

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like the people, like I said,
you can kind of sort of point

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out now he his was kind of
interesting because I was like,

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why?
He has a full head of hair and a

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full beard.
You know, we're so used to

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Dougal being bald, even in the
flashbacks of the main show,

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he's already, you know, Gray and
bald when we see him.

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But then Outlander and Star
started doing these reels on

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Facebook where they're kind of
introducing the characters.

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As soon as he opened his mouth,
I was like, oh, Oh my God, That

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is absolutely 100% Dougal
Mackenzie.

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And the same with column.
When he says the line, it was a

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line he said in this one about
your, your overreaching or

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you're doing something, bro.
That was like, whoa, did he just

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channel Gary Lewis out of his
mouth?

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Because like again, the the the
casting is just so the the, the

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mannerisms, the kind of
restraint that he shows as

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column and the kind of non
restraint that's shown as

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Dougal.
I was like, you know what, Y'all

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are going to have me on opposite
sides trying to figure out who

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I'm rooting for.
Granted, we know the story, we

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know how it ends up, but at the
same time, I'm kind of like

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column, if you're going to be
this calm, I don't know if

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you're going to be able to hold
the clan.

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But then the whole thing, the
manipulation thing he did with

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Dougal sent kind of sort of
sending him after Ellen.

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I was like, that's why you
became clan chief.

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That's.
That.

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That's why.
That's why I feel like Jacob

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would have chosen him and just
been, you know, like I said,

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worried that he wasn't going to
be able to hold it.

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You know what I mean?
But as far as mine, Oh my God,

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he's so smart and so cunning and
shrewd and Oh my gosh, this.

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Yeah, I was kind of, I was on
his.

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I was like, OK, Ellen is on his
side.

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She was like, you know, you got
my vote, blah, blah, blah.

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Then later on in episode when
he's like, yeah, we had

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something more valuable than
such and such we have we have

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marriage.
Give Ellen to I was like Hong

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Kong 1700 Seventeen 117. 100 Dad
bowed that she would never have

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to get married.
Well, he's dead.

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He's dead, and so his his.
Word, I said.

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You know what, you bastard,
right?

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Right.
Your bastard, right?

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But OK, there are several.
Let me let me get my mouth

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together.
There are several Easter eggs in

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the episode that I noticed.
Of course, I was looking for

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different little things like how
are they going to incorporate a

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little bit of the, you know, the
main show or the main story into

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this story to kind of, you know,
pay homage or not towards it.

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I love the fact that it seems
like she named Jamie because her

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father would have.
That's the name her father would

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have given her if she had been
born a boy.

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I thought that was very sweet.
You know, the fact that she

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named him James.
Going back to watching them

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prepare her kilt so that she
could wear for the funeral, I

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was like, oh, this looks
familiar.

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I like this.
But I also liked all of the

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flashbacks again, because you
get to see the relationship that

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he has with her and why this is
such a devastating thing for

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her.
And then, you already know,

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like, from the top of the
episode.

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Yeah, her life is about to
change because she doesn't have

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that protection anymore.
And I'm sorry, little Ned Gowen.

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I'm not sure I quite like him
yet.

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In this one, I'm like, you're
also.

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You're also very shrewd and
very.

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Manipulative.
You're not like the sweet Meg

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out.
But you know what?

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I guess.
But he was.

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He was trying though 'cause he
was trying to be on Ellen side

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though.
Don't talk to her like that

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right?
Fucking too.

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Like there was a little.
Yeah, he had a little.

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Crush on her too 'cause he got
real mad.

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Yeah, you don't talk to her that
way and.

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Try to play it off.
I was like, oh, OK.

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'Cause he was going to get beat
up, right?

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Even column was gonna knock him
up Saturday.

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Like we can talk to her how we
want to talk to her, right?

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Yeah, right.
My.

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Sister, I do what I want.
But he respected, you know, we

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respected his dad, so, and their
dad really loved their sister.

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So he was sticking to that.
Like, that's not how he would

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have wanted her to be treated.
But you know that's true.

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He got no.
But this is what happens when

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you die and you don't leave a
will and you don't leave any

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kind of directive on how you
want things to go.

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So again, make your wheels
people.

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But I'm like.
We never People say that all the

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time.
You don't know the hour no other

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day.
But I ain't gonna prepare 'cause

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I ain't gonna die no child soon.
Right.

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Right now, Dina, I think when
you messaged me, you were saying

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that you did was I think it was
you.

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You said you didn't realize that
that was Claire's mother in the

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beginning of the episode with
Laura Lovett.

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I ain't paid.
No, I didn't either.

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That doesn't because I didn't
pay like you sent me long time

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ago pictures who was in the
cast, But I I wasn't looking for

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any extra.
I want to go in fresh eyes.

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So I was just feeling bad for
that Lady.

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I was like hurry up and get out
of the right, get out the dining

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room.
You need to get out the dining

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room.
And then later I was like, wait

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a second, wait a second, wait a
second.

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I I went on.
I didn't notice nothing.

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Yeah.
And I don't even know how I

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didn't notice Henry.
He didn't even take like he

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looks exactly the same.
What?

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Nothing different about him.
Right.

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Yeah, because when when the
episode aired, I already knew

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that they were gonna split the
episodes that that the first

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episode was going to focus
mainly on Ellen and Brian and

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that the second episode focuses
mostly on Julia and Henry.

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So I wasn't expecting them to
already be in the past when this

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episode airs.
So when I saw her, I was like,

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wait a minute.
So y'all are starting us off

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like this?
Like we are automatically, we're

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already seeing her and not
knowing.

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And then the fact that she is
with the family, I was like, oh,

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so I see how they're kind of
doing it.

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It's like, OK, Jamie and Claire
kind of were faded to me because

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their parent, her Claire's
parents had already kind of

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ingratiated themselves into this
world.

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So I'm really interested to see
how that's going to play out.

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But my question is, there are
certain things that they reveal

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in this episode, and I want to
know if it triggered certain

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things for you.
Like 1, the fact that Julia is

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pregnant, that like Claire is
already around.

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She's already kind of, you know,
the age that she was when her

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parents died and we find out
that Julia is pregnant again.

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What did this trigger for you or
what did this make you think

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when you when you heard that?
To be honest, I OK, so when it

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occurred, I was like, OK, I like
this.

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This is not the beginning of
their love story.

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We we coming in like right when
the car accident happens around

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that time.
So I was like, OK, this is

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interesting, Claire.
Oh.

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Claire.
Oh, she look girl, OK.

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And she was Uncle Lam.
Right.

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And then funny figure out that
she was pregnant.

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Then that made me start thinking
about the last episode of

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Outlander.
And I'm like how this matches

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up.
This has to match up like

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they've been traveling.
So the baby was born at a

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different time.
So she may think Faith is Faith,

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but it actually could be her
Mama called the Faith.

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I don't know.
I'm tripping.

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I'm trying to figure it out and
that's where I am.

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What about you, Dina?
So just you know, I so I never

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ended up going back to finish
the season and I started binging

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it 'cause I was like I need to
finish the season 'cause I OK, I

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had a little PCSD that first
episode.

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Jamie.
Oh he did.

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I said please stop doing this to
me, please stop doing this.

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Please just don't do this to me
no more 'cause I know he not

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dead.
But like why y'all putting

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Claire through this?
And right, and you got Laura.

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John Gray up in here marrying
post because y'all don't put him

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through this.
And I just was so frustrated and

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mad and I was sad and then I
just so I finally went back and

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I'm I'm almost done, but I
haven't gotten to the end.

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So when I saw that she was
pregnant, I had the thought of

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like, oh, so if they end up
stuck there where they are, then

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this baby is somebody grand.
Great great grandmama who Great

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grandmama is like I is she like?
Gayla's grandma.

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Like who went?
Like I want to know like, OK, so

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since you haven't watched that
part before me, it's fine.

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You sure?
Yep.

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Nope, it's totally fine.
It's my fault.

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I didn't.
I ran from it.

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I That was on me.
So I won't tell where where

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exactly did you get to in the
main show?

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Oh.
Like, have you met Fanny and

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Jane yet?
Yes, matter of fact, they took

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Jane.
They just took the episode I

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finished.
They just took Jane and arrested

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her for that captain's murder.
Oh, OK, so let's just say that

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during the conversation that
Claire has with Fanny, she finds

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out that their mom's name was
Faith.

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OK, Then at.
Oh, OK in the season finale,

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they're outside.
There's, you know, they're

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getting ready to go somewhere
and they're going to take Fanny

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with them.
And Fanny is inside the church,

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Claire here singing.
And the song that is being sung

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is a song from the 1900s.
It's not a song that Fanny in

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her age should know.
So when she walks in and she

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asks Fanny, she was like, where
have you heard that song?

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And she was like, my mom used to
sing it to me.

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Again.
Her mom's name is Faith, so

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she's wondering if her daughter
is actually alive.

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Because.
There's something else that

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happened in the episode before
that I'm not going to tell you

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because it's a huge spoiler.
OK, OK.

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That Claire receives an apology
for And she was like, I don't

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know why I'm getting this
apology.

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So the way that they ended the
the season is that Claire tells

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Jamie their daughter may not
have actually died.

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Now, I don't think that's the
case.

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I because again, this is
something that we discussed.

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This is something the whole
fandom has discussed.

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Like that baby was clearly dead,
right, right.

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Player was sitting there holding
it and singing it.

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So my thought when we found out
that Julia was pregnant, because

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I think again, this is like
early, this is 17.

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That's like 39 I think, they
said.

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I I think it's a little bit old.
I think it's a little bit old.

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I think it might be 1720
something so.

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Oh, you know what I'm thinking
about, Laura.

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I'm thinking about what?
About the original, Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah.
So I'm thinking either Julia had

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her baby there, and I was
thinking that her child, she

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might have named her child
Faith, and then Faith had had

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other children.
You know, that that's kind of

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what I was thinking.
I was like, oh.

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Now be trippy because her mom
was around when that song was

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out that she was singing, and
she would have sung it to her

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like she sung it to Claire.
That's what I was thinking, too.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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The other thing that made me
wonder is, OK, again, we see

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that Julia and Henry are both
with their respect, their

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respective households.
We see Julia with the Fraser

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household.
We see Henry with the Grants who

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is kind of sort of on the
McKenzie side.

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So it made me wonder, at some
point I feel like their paths

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are going to have to cross or
Julia's path is going to have to

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cross with the Mckenzie's at
some point.

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Because we do see in the promos
that she and Ellen, not this, I

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don't know if they actually
become friends, but they do

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their past due cross.
And she's the one who kind of

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convinces Ellen, hey, if you
really want this man, if you

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really in love with him, go
after him.

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Because I know what it's like to
lose my true love.

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But I'm wondering if Column and
Dougal cross paths with Julia

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and and and talk to her and know
of her history and that's why

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they were so suspicious of
Claire when she first got there,

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because Julia and Claire have
very similar looks.

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Again, casting department did an
amazing job because they do

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share a lot of similarities.
She has the last name Beecham.

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So I was just wondering,
thinking back to Columns first.

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That first night when he invites
her to dinner, he was like,

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Beecham, you don't say your
name, you know, Beauchamp, and

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00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,000
they have that conversation.
I was like, I wonder, is that

448
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,040
why they were so suspicious of
her?

449
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,120
Why?
They were like, yeah, you ain't

450
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:22,120
telling us the.
Truth.

451
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,840
I was like, hmm, So I, I like
the way that I feel like they're

452
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,720
gonna try to tie it is 'cause
you.

453
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,320
Yeah, 'cause now you have to do
all those things together,

454
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,320
right?
Like, if she looks very similar,

455
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,240
Claire looks similar to her mom.
Her mom was already there

456
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,480
before.
But her mom was also new.

457
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,280
You know, her mom kind of
dropped in out of nowhere.

458
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,400
They just they just kind of
found her.

459
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,960
She finds herself in a strange
place in a strange time.

460
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,560
Same with Henry.
Although from what we can tell

461
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:01,400
from what we saw in this
episode, it looks like they may

462
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,160
have been in these roles for a
while because they seem pretty

463
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,320
comfortable with what they're
doing.

464
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:15,000
But the fact that Missus Porter,
who is the the cook and Lord

465
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,440
Lovett's house, when she talks
to Julia, she was like, I told

466
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,880
you not to be with him alone,
always have me in your presence

467
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,640
and stuff.
And I was like, oh, wait a

468
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,120
minute, that's Brian's mother.
I think that's Brian's mother.

469
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:37,000
It's like, oh, OK, so it's I, I
think it's really interesting.

470
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,600
Yeah, that's what I got because.
Go ahead, Dina, I I think

471
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,160
there's a little bit of a lag,
but oh.

472
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,760
Sorry.
Oh, it's OK.

473
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,600
Yeah, no, that's what I was
thinking too, because when she

474
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,720
told her, you know, you have
work to do in the kitchens or

475
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,960
whatever, and she was like, Oh
yes, miss, whatever.

476
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,600
And then she looked back at the
layered, or the knot layered,

477
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,400
Mr. Fraser, and gave him a look
like I know you better get your

478
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,560
life, you know what I mean?
Like she gave.

479
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,720
Him a look and he he was like.
Right.

480
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,720
And I thought that was.
Brilliant.

481
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:18,080
Yeah, and I thought that was
really interesting because what

482
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,240
we know of the old Fox from the
regular Outlander show, like he

483
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,480
is one of those.
He's very arrogant, very

484
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,600
misogynist, very much.
I'm the, I'm the, you know,

485
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,720
HNIC, y'all gonna do what I say.
And I don't care how you feel

486
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,920
about it.
I don't care what you think

487
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,080
about it, but we're gonna do it.
But literally when she looks at

488
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,920
him, he stops and I don't.
Know if it's a?

489
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,400
Right, right.
And I don't know if it's a guilt

490
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,400
thing because if I'm not
mistaken, didn't he force her

491
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,240
like he raped her?
I'm pretty sure I.

492
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,000
OK, I'm getting up.
So it's like, and I'm I'm pretty

493
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,280
sure she probably is still there
because one again, back then

494
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,000
1700s, nobody cares about what
you do.

495
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,960
Raping, raping a woman is kind
of like, that's an everyday

496
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,640
thing back then.
But to the fact that she got

497
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,960
pregnant and had a, you know,
had a baby, she was probably

498
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,080
like, OK, even though this
situation happened and I, I

499
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,560
can't stand him.
This is probably the best place

500
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,480
for my son, you know, And he's
especially since Lord Lovett

501
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,080
does recognize him, did give him
his last name.

502
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,760
Now, granted, he still has no
problem saying that he's a

503
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,360
bastard and that, you know, you,
you better remember what you are

504
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,280
and what you aren't.
Whatever.

505
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,520
But, you know, at least he did
give him that much, you know, So

506
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,000
I guess she totally.
Forgot it that he was the

507
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,160
grandfather from the original 1.
I didn't even remember I forgot

508
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,320
all about him until you just
said that.

509
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,160
Yeah.
Like that was him.

510
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,720
Oh my God I got to go back and
like re watch all the Outlander.

511
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Yeah.
And that's the thing, because

512
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,120
when you when you look at
certain people and you're trying

513
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,680
to figure out who they are and
how they correlate to the

514
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:08,480
Outlander things, there's one in
this episode that I had missed

515
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,280
that it it didn't dawn on me
until the second episode.

516
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,760
And I was like, I know who you
are.

517
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,360
You know that who that person
was standing next to Isaac

518
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:15,840
Grant.
Grant.

519
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,360
He's he's the one that was with
Malcolm Grant when Malcolm saw

520
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,200
that Ellen was leaving, even
though she had told him she was

521
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,520
going to bed, he was like, your
father's already left.

522
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,320
And he was like, OK, well, we'll
leave too.

523
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,720
He's I thought you wanted to
stay.

524
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,440
That's Arch.
Oh, OK.

525
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:41,360
Oh yes, because he said Mr. Bug.
He said Mr. Bug, I thought he

526
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,720
said in next episode.
I remember.

527
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,760
It in the next episode, yeah, I
remember in next episode, but

528
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,040
yeah, like yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
that's that's.

529
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,920
Yeah, I had to think of it
because I remember I was trying

530
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,920
to figure I was like the grants,
the grants.

531
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,320
And I was like, I remember him
saying when he and Jamie got

532
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,040
into it about the gold, he was
like, I used to be the tack man

533
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,200
for the grants and blah, blah,
blah.

534
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,800
And I was like, that's arch.
And then there's something that

535
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,600
happens in the next episode and
I was like, Oh yeah, that's

536
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,640
definitely arch.
But yeah, I was like, OK, so it

537
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,840
was interesting seeing him.
And then I I'm trying to think,

538
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,960
who else?
Latisha, because we haven't seen

539
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,160
Latisha since the first season.
Columns Wife.

540
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,760
Yeah, so we get to see a younger
version of her.

541
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,320
Janet.
I I remember that that's the

542
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:40,520
auntie that Janet that Jamie's
sister Jenny was named after.

543
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,200
But I don't remember what
happened to her because up until

544
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,000
the up until this episode, I
forgot they had an aunt named

545
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,160
Janet.
I was like, did he mention?

546
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,680
Oh, yeah, he did because he said
something about Jenny was named

547
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,360
after her.
So I was like, OK.

548
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,920
Because he only called her Janet
when he was like, mad at her.

549
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,400
Yeah, or trying to be proper.
Yeah, Janet, Janet.

550
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,760
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah.

551
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:13,640
So again, casting did a great
job with with those characters

552
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,360
because you can't kind of see a
lot of echoes of of those

553
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,000
characters, the older versions
of those characters in these

554
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,360
younger versions.
And I know that they that they

555
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,760
did watch the show.
I think Jamie Roy, who plays

556
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:32,040
Brian, he was a fan of the show
before he got cast.

557
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:37,880
And I think his story is that he
actually went in to audition for

558
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,800
one of the battle scenes.
He was going to be just, I think

559
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,640
he said military militia man #4
or something like that.

560
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,360
Was just going to be like a
heart.

561
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,880
But Meryl Davis said that when
they when they saw him audition

562
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,360
that, you know, she was
thinking, wow, he does kind of

563
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,400
look like Sam.
Maybe we should keep him for the

564
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,960
prequel.
At that time, the prequel hadn't

565
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:03,400
been greenlit yet.
So it just kind of was one of

566
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,360
those things where they were
like, OK, we don't know what's

567
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,560
going to happen.
Then apparently one of the stars

568
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,360
executives came in and saw it
and was like, wow, he really

569
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,760
looks like Sam Hu and should we
keep him for the prequel?

570
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,560
And Meryl Davis said that's how
they knew the prequel was going

571
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,600
to happen, because of that
conversation, right?

572
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,480
Yeah, I don't think they could
have picked anybody better.

573
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,600
No, and they they they have a
lot of the same movements.

574
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,880
He he mimics some of his facial
expressions.

575
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,480
And then watching them two
together, like in the press

576
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,800
stuff, Sam and Jamie, I was just
like, wow.

577
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,320
Yeah, it's a lot like I'm
getting first season Jamie so

578
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,920
hard right now.
So hard.

579
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,040
Yes, I know.
So look.

580
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,800
So who do you have the bigger
crush on?

581
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,960
Dina.
Girl oh, it's always it's always

582
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,840
gonna be Brian 'cause them blue
eyes and their black hair, honey

583
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,880
oh, that is my.
I don't think I've ever seen

584
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,120
hair that black.
I was like, really?

585
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:15,120
Oh, you got dark hair?
The the quote, UN quote suitors.

586
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:18,560
Who is your crush?
Michelle Dougal.

587
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,199
Yeah, I got to say Dougal is.
Yeah.

588
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,400
And, and it's something about
his presence, like, one, this

589
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,320
dude is so big.
Like he has such a huge stature

590
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,159
and I don't think he was that
big before.

591
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:41,159
I think he kind of, you know, he
worked out to be that big to

592
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,120
kind of play this version
because if you you see him in

593
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,120
other pictures, you'd be like,
those are two different men.

594
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,320
Yeah.
No, but he like, I mean the.

595
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,679
Actor in real life is is is
handsome clean face and no, I'm

596
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,520
not saying he's not he has some
clean face, but that beard and

597
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,400
how he walk around right now,
yes.

598
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,160
He's just like, he just wants to
kill, right?

599
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,600
He wants to hit everything.
He wants to kill everything.

600
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,840
I like the day that they brought
back the game where he's just

601
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,080
sitting there hitting balls.
I'm like, dude, are you in the

602
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,800
band game?
And you just you just like I, I

603
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,720
don't know you, you're taking
out your frustrations on all of

604
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:21,640
them.
Why?

605
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,320
Because because they're not
clearly the lair yet.

606
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,760
But.
And my second one is Murtaugh.

607
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,440
Like right now he's so.
Smiley.

608
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,880
You like some bread?
He and I thought the same thing

609
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,680
you did, Michelle.
I was like this Martha seems so

610
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:45,440
happy, so carefree, so silly,
and he's just like, such a

611
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,960
goofball.
And I love it.

612
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,520
And I thought the same thing.
I was like, wow, life really

613
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,560
wore him down.
Because you could see a little

614
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,080
of that mischievousness in the
older doodle.

615
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,520
Oh, yeah.
It was very rare that it would

616
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,920
come out.
You know, you see it a lot with

617
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,680
Jamie when he when they're
talking about the past and

618
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,080
stuff.
You can kind of see it once

619
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,440
Claire let him in on her secret
and he was able to be more

620
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,960
comfortable or she was able to
be more comfortable with him.

621
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:18,560
You see it with with her and
just the later episodes where he

622
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,560
comes back, they see him in the
States and they kind of rebuild

623
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,560
this this relationship.
You can see touches of it here

624
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,920
and there, but nothing like
this.

625
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,040
And I was just like, I love
seeing this version of him, you

626
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,760
know?
And I think I'm going to hate

627
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,160
seeing what it is that happens
to him to make him into the way

628
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,800
that he he was.
But I know we'll see it because

629
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,960
even before this season aired or
this episode aired, they've

630
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,080
already been renewed and have
started production on Season 2.

631
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,400
So yeah.
Wow, Stars knows, boy, Stars

632
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,280
knows about these big dramas.
I'm telling.

633
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:06,280
You these characters like they
took a chance on Outlander when

634
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,440
they did it and the fact that
they have gone for so long.

635
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,080
I really believe that the reason
why one of the reasons why they

636
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,120
are stopping at the eighth
season is because if you look at

637
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,440
what the stars are doing outside
of Outlander now, they probably

638
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,000
they could not stay tied to A to
the show for too much longer.

639
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,760
Katrina, like she is all over my
news feed right now for this new

640
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,560
movie she has coming out called
The Cut with Orlando Bloom.

641
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,640
It's all over everywhere.
And you know, when you're out

642
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,400
doing a movie, you have to do
the promotions, you have to do

643
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,560
the press junkets.
You can't be tied in or locked

644
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,520
into ATV show because that kind
of limits what you were able to

645
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,320
do.
Like I think she's working on

646
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,160
ATV show now.
She's working on a project now

647
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,440
that kept her from being at San
Diego Comic Con.

648
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,720
And you know, that's probably,
that was probably the last San

649
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:02,480
Diego Comic Con for Outlander
because outlanders coming back

650
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,360
in early 2026.
So there won't be anything after

651
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,280
the summer.
But you know, I, I really feel

652
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,160
like that's one of the reasons
why the show is ending because

653
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,920
they've got so much going on
now.

654
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,320
Like you have some talented
folks, you kind of kept them to

655
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,640
yourselves for a long time.
It's not it's time to release

656
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,320
them out into the world so that
they can be great.

657
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,440
Sucks for us, but I really feel
like this show is a suitable

658
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,160
replacement to to kind of still
give us those vibes because

659
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,720
again, the characters, these are
characters that we are familiar

660
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:42,760
with, just in a different vein.
We do know the Diana Gabadon is

661
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,560
an executive producer.
She has also done some of the I

662
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:52,280
think she's written one or two
scripts for a season 1 and I

663
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,040
think she's writing some for
season 2.

664
00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,880
So she's on board.
So and I think also that with

665
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,080
Matt and Merrill, they love
these characters, they love this

666
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,560
world.
So I really think that they're

667
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,520
going to keep the integrity of
these characters for this show.

668
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,680
I mean, you can even see it just
just the way that the show was

669
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:16,920
introduced, that opening theme.
Oh my God, Bear McCreary does it

670
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,640
again.
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

671
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,880
So yeah, I think this show is AI
think it'll be a good

672
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,480
replacement or something to kind
of, you know, keep us in the

673
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,640
Outlander spirit for the next
couple of years because I was

674
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:39,360
really depressed.
Well, it's like that.

675
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,440
Thing too is like there's so
many, like you said, Easter eggs

676
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,360
and just matching up characters
and like learning new things

677
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,720
that fit into the what we
already know from the future.

678
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,160
And that just makes it even more
interesting because it's just

679
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,120
like, oh, I can't wait to see
how they get to this point in

680
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,600
that point.
And you know, it's very, very,

681
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,080
very fun.
Right.

682
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,120
Very fun.
It's kind of like in, in, in, in

683
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:09,160
this last season, you know, when
Rodger and Buck meet Gaylis and

684
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,200
then you realize this is the
first time that Gaylis and Dugo

685
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,560
meet and you're like.
This is where the magic.

686
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,920
Happens right right in the back.
Yeah.

687
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,720
So I think it'll be, it's going
to be interesting because again,

688
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,760
in the in some of the promos
before Season 1, you do see that

689
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,640
Julia and Ellen interact.
And I just want to see how that

690
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,320
happens because I'm like, we
already feel like Jamie and

691
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,760
Claire were meant to be
together.

692
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,400
I mean, there has to be a reason
why she ended up in where she

693
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,000
did in 1743 when she went back
the first time.

694
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,280
And now I think we're kind of
getting glimpses that their

695
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,720
lives have always kind of been
intertwined, which is great.

696
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,960
But like Michelle said, I want
to see the background.

697
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,200
I want to see what happens with
Julia Ellen.

698
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,720
I want to see if Henry and Brian
are going to cross paths, which

699
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:11,280
obviously they probably are.
Because if Harlem is saying that

700
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,400
Ellen has to be patrolled to
Malcolm Grant, I don't think

701
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Brian is going to let that sit,
even if Ellen has no choice.

702
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,880
So I'm really interested to see.
How they're gonna bring these

703
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,680
characters together and what the
fallout will be, right?

704
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,480
Because we do know they get
together.

705
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,120
But I'm like, man, there's some
really bad odds for you guys.

706
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,720
And they eloped.
We know that they eloped.

707
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,560
So yeah.
I said that also like I just, I

708
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,280
I didn't wonder also how they're
gonna how long they're gonna

709
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,880
drag it out before we get to
that point of elopement.

710
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,200
Like is it going to be like next
season?

711
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,120
Is it, you know, or is it going
to be this seat?

712
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,280
Like I'm, I'm eager to know,
like what is it going to happen?

713
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,760
I I want some.
Mayor yeah, I would say that we

714
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,560
will probably get that this
season because again, they

715
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,480
probably filmed this not knowing
if it was going to be multiple

716
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,000
seasons.
I don't know if that was the

717
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,520
plan or if they, you know, had
just planned on giving us one

718
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,120
season.
Because again, with Diana

719
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,480
Galvadon's books, we know a
little bit of the background of

720
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,400
the Mackenzie side.
We know about Brian and Ellen

721
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,800
because Jamie very clearly, he
talks about his family all the

722
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,040
time.
Murta used to talk about them.

723
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,640
We know almost nothing about
Claire's parents except for the

724
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,520
fact that they died in a car
crash when she was young.

725
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,440
I think she was, I want to say
she was like maybe 8 or 9,

726
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,280
something like that when her
parents died.

727
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,560
So that's the only thing we ever
know about Claire's parents.

728
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,000
And I know there have been
conversations.

729
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,680
I think Michelle and I have had
conversations, but they've also

730
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,200
been conversations with other
fans.

731
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,040
And they're like, OK, one of
Claire's parents has to be a

732
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,520
time traveler in order for her
to have it.

733
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,480
Not necessarily because it could
skip a generation, but that

734
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,640
seems the likely thing.
But.

735
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,760
I never imagined they would tell
the story that both of Claire's

736
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,880
parents were time travelers.
You know I love it, but the only

737
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,200
sad part is we know they never
make it home.

738
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,800
Yeah.
Right.

739
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,360
So that's the part that's really
sad, but that also is very like,

740
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,200
feel like that's kinda cool
because then they raised their

741
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,960
chit and however many more kids
they might have, we don't know.

742
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,600
We don't know.
So that's the.

743
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,040
Adventures and a whole new life
if well, I'm sure they're gonna

744
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,680
find each other but like, yeah,
excited to know what they did

745
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,920
back then yeah, like that maybe
that's why like.

746
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,360
Yeah.
You know how Claire is just

747
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,400
really, like, really comfortable
with being in the past and how,

748
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,400
like, she's was, like, in that
episode I just finished, she was

749
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,640
like, this is my time.
Like, yeah.

750
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,120
Because they're asking, would
you go back home?

751
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,200
Or Ian was asking her, would you
go back home if Jamie, you know,

752
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,400
really does die this time?
And she's like, yeah, this is my

753
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,440
time.
Yeah.

754
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,240
And I'm like, there's a reason
she feels, 'cause I would not

755
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:07,000
want to stay back.
There, right?

756
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:09,840
Right, I want a toilet.
I want, yeah.

757
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,200
I mean like my I want.
Even forget the toilet, I can do

758
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640
without the toilet.
I need toilet tissue.

759
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,080
I'm not wiping my ass with
leaves.

760
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,440
I'm just not doing it.
Or straw or no, I'm not doing a

761
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,160
Guinness and toilet.
Tissue something like I need.

762
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:29,480
Yeah, modern thing.
Little television too.

763
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,040
Can I go back?
Oh my God, can.

764
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,800
You imagine I can do with I
probably could do without

765
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,640
television because they have
books back then just they do,

766
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,880
but then.
But then there were some books I

767
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,200
read that didn't come out yet,
so I had to like what?

768
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,760
But.
This is shocking.

769
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,400
Yeah, that, that is true.
You can go back home and have

770
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,200
more books, right?
But then if Julia and Henry

771
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,600
stayed in this time, and we
already know they are in

772
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,280
Scotland because similar to
Claire and Frank, they were

773
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,920
have, they were on holiday, they
were having a good time.

774
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,920
They were just, you know, being
with each other.

775
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,480
And, and this happens.
I wonder if at any point we will

776
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,640
see an older Julia meet up with
Claire.

777
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,800
Like, have they seen each other?
Have they passed by each other?

778
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,680
Because I don't think Julia
would look at Claire and be

779
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,120
like, oh, yeah, that's my
daughter.

780
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,120
Because you're thinking your
daughter's still in the 1900s at

781
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:30,600
this point.
Right.

782
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,720
You wouldn't.
Yeah.

783
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:34,200
And and she's 10.
Right.

784
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,200
So now you see her wouldn't be
woman if you never make it back.

785
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,160
And then again, what if they
made it back during the time

786
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,280
when Claire had gone back?
Is is there so many

787
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,480
possibilities you could tell
with the story like Julia and

788
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,880
Henry may have found a way
because think about it.

789
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,080
Fanny says that their mom died
or Fanny and Jane, they say that

790
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,800
their mom died and that's how
they ended up on the ship.

791
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,840
Are we sure that their mom died?
Did their mom?

792
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,920
Not a traveller.
And what if we have a family

793
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,760
reunion at the end of our Linda?
Oh my God, we just named

794
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,480
reunions period.
Reunion, reunion, reunion.

795
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,560
I mean, I would love to see that
in the show.

796
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,680
I don't know if that's going to
happen in in the books because I

797
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:24,760
think Diana Gabaldon is still
working on a Ryan and Ellen

798
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,160
prequel.
She mentioned something about it

799
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,800
on her Facebook page.
But I know she, I don't think

800
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,000
she ever had plans to do
anything with Claire's parents.

801
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,520
So we needed to know, like we
needed the information about,

802
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,000
you know, we always thought, OK,
really, a car accident is

803
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,160
something more than that.
Yeah, we knew that.

804
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,280
So we now need to tell their
adventures, 'cause now they have

805
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,720
adventures because they got to
figure out how to get home.

806
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,720
But now.
How did they get back there in

807
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,480
the 1st place, not just one of
them?

808
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,720
Two of them.
Yeah, so and I mean.

809
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:08,040
It's so good because like he was
able to get to the same time as

810
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,760
her because he was right solely
of her.

811
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,000
And that's something an
Outlander that they figured out

812
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:16,960
is a thing like think about the
person you most wanted to be

813
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,600
with and then you touch the
stones.

814
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,640
And so clearly he went right
behind her.

815
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,520
That was.
Pretty amazing.

816
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,000
But then how does she end up at
that time?

817
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,240
So like, I think she's drawn and
that's why Claire's drawn to

818
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:34,000
that time and to that family.
Yeah, that's a good question.

819
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,880
Because if if Julia goes
through, she's not thinking of

820
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,960
anything.
She's just thinking, OK, so let

821
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,600
me see where we are and how we
can get home.

822
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,800
Because they have the, you know,
we, we do see the car accident.

823
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,560
Their car flips into a river.
They, you know, they get swept

824
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,080
down and and they're trying to
figure out how they're going to

825
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,680
get back to their child.
And so, yeah, it's kind of like

826
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,080
what put her in that particular
time?

827
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,600
Why would those particular
people?

828
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:10,600
And then it it almost makes you
kind of think, or at least me.

829
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,000
OK, so has this happened before?
Like Julia's parents?

830
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,040
Was one of Julia's parents a
time traveler and ended up like

831
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,200
maybe they came from that time
period and had her?

832
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,920
It's, it's just one of those
things where now, because we

833
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,400
know both of Claire's parents
are, are time travelers, there's

834
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:33,320
so many possibilities that we
can think of as far as how this

835
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,600
started, you know, because Nope,
you know, at first we didn't

836
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,840
know that Claire's parents were
time travelers.

837
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,080
Now we know both of her parents
are time travelers.

838
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,600
So who from their respective
sides was the traveller?

839
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,880
How did they, you know, did they
know they were travellers?

840
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,440
Is it something like what
happened with them?

841
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,480
Like Julia goes back to the
past, She's pregnant, Maybe she

842
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,080
has the child then because maybe
she doesn't think that she can

843
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,480
go back.
At this point, we don't even

844
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:07,080
know if she knows how she got
there or knows that there's a

845
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,760
way for her to get back.
We don't know because we're not

846
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,440
introduced to the couple until
towards the end of the episode,

847
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,360
so.
And we know how it works.

848
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,160
They don't know how it works so.
Right.

849
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,360
So we're all going to be on a
learning journey with this show,

850
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,080
which I'm excited about because
again, this opens up so many

851
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,920
more possibilities as far as the
stories that can be told, not

852
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,160
just just, you know, Claire and
Jamie's story or Brianna and

853
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,880
Rodger's story, but this can go
back generations.

854
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,840
And there could be a reason why
they're they're all just, you

855
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,680
know, so tied together.
Either way it goes, I'm here for

856
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,480
it.
I'm here for it.

857
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,200
And I like the I like the
chemistry that you see between

858
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,120
the two couples, you know,
especially with Brian and Ellen,

859
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:05,240
because it's one of those things
where Ellen is already like

860
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,120
everybody is trying to court
her.

861
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,640
Everybody's being introduced to
her.

862
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,560
They're making their attentions
kind of subtly known or kind of

863
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,760
obviously known, whatever.
She she's the catch of the day.

864
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,760
And everybody knows that, oh,
your dad's dead.

865
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:21,160
Oh, well, you know, I gave you a
compliment.

866
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,480
You can't even smile.
She's like, I'm in mourning.

867
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,840
He was like, but you won't be
forever.

868
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,960
I was like, oh, dude, you need
to exit stage.

869
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:32,120
Wow.
Because no, right?

870
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,320
Not ever.
And then Malcolm Grant, like

871
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,840
Malcolm Grant seems sweet, but
the first time she you asked her

872
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,320
if you could accompany her, she
says no.

873
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,400
Like, point blank, no.
And you're.

874
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,560
Well, I should maybe I should
just accompany you just in case

875
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,400
you fall.
No, I'm fine.

876
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,680
And you keep on, dude.
That's probably why she, she got

877
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,120
away from you and then went to
go do whatever else she was

878
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,960
doing.
But I like that instead of

879
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,280
following her, he was like,
yeah, there's no reason for me

880
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:05,080
to stay now let me go home
because, dude, she don't want

881
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,720
you.
You got the picture.

882
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,760
Finally.
Right, but all of these people

883
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,160
who are trying to court her and
then when she finally gets away

884
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,680
and she's up under the the
little thing where she was and

885
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,280
Brian is there, she's the one to
initiate the conversation.

886
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,920
You know, she could have easily
looked at him and be like,

887
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,280
here's another dude that I don't
feel like talking about.

888
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,720
But at least she felt like, OK,
well, if he's hiding up under

889
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:31,600
here, maybe he's shot, too.
Let me just strike up a

890
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,800
conversation.
And then, of course, they look

891
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,520
at each other and their eyes
meet and there's magic in there,

892
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,200
Sparks.
And I was just like, oh, yeah,

893
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:41,840
this is it.
It.

894
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,200
It did feel a lot like Jamie and
Claire the first time they met.

895
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,680
When she got ready to set that
shoulder, It was just like, oh,

896
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,000
hey, you're attractive.
Oh, hey, I like you.

897
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,760
Yeah, because you she had a
complete 180.

898
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,320
She was just like, yeah, let's
talk.

899
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,880
Oh, you need to go.
Oh, but yes, I'll meet you.

900
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,840
And then that little, that
little scene with them at the

901
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,520
bridge, I was like, this is so
cute.

902
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,200
Y'all are really trying to make
us fall in love.

903
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,520
I like the way that, you know,
when she comes to meet him at

904
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,600
the bridge, they have the whole
discussion about her staying on

905
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,280
the one side of him staying on
the one side.

906
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,320
He was like, I don't want to,
you know, I don't want anybody

907
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,920
to question, Your Honor.
So the bridge will serve as our

908
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,440
chaperone.
You stay on that side.

909
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,080
I stay on that side.
And then as they're talking,

910
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,680
she's not paying attention.
She's like, I'm going to take a

911
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,080
step for it.
So he's like, OK, she's taking a

912
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,040
step for it.
I would take a step for it.

913
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,360
And I like this little dance
that they do with each other.

914
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,760
And then when they find out that
their fathers are, like, mortal

915
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,720
enemies, it's kind of like, oh,
well, that sucks.

916
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,720
And then she's the one who
actually said she was like, So

917
00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:00,600
what can we do?
Like, my father hated George.

918
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,280
My brothers will not allow this.
But this has to happen because

919
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,720
she's like, there's going to be
consequences.

920
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,120
Like, I feel like there was no
point in her mind where she was

921
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,640
like, OK, we can't do this.
She was like, damn, he's a

922
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,520
Frazier.
OK, we don't have to figure this

923
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,840
out.
Yeah, we bout to do this right.

924
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:24,360
After one meeting, again the
whole love at first sight.

925
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,640
After one meeting she was like,
Yep, I'm about to risk it all.

926
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,320
Yep.
Everything right.

927
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,320
But the, you know, the, the,
the, the chemistry between them

928
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:40,280
is so good.
And then you think about even

929
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,040
the way that they talk about
Ellen in the original show, when

930
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,560
you get the older version of
Brian Fraser, like when he's

931
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,720
talking to Rodger about his wife
and when he talks to Brianna,

932
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:54,880
when he meets Brianna, he was
like, yeah, you put me in the

933
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,080
mind of her.
And he talks about how much he

934
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,960
loved her, how much he missed
her and how there's never been

935
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:02,200
anyone else.
It's like, you can see it in

936
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,160
this in this little meeting.
They they play it so well

937
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:12,080
because it does make you believe
like, yeah, they Google for, you

938
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,800
know, they cuckoo for Cocoa
puffs over each other.

939
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,360
There.
There's no fixing this.

940
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,360
So now the whole thing about
column trying to give her away

941
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,360
to Malcolm Grant.
This is about to be a problem.

942
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,720
This is about to be a problem
because we know they end up

943
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:27,200
together.
Yep.

944
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:32,920
So now is how is there a fight?
Is there a like, does he

945
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,080
Stiller?
What is what is the situation

946
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,960
about to be?
Because I'm sorry, Brian seems

947
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:45,800
like he seems like he's gentle
in this version, like he's very

948
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,720
much he he tries to placate his
father when his father's about

949
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,760
to do all his horrible stuff.
You know, he kind of stands up

950
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,240
to his father.
He, you know, trying to protect

951
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:01,360
the new maid before her, before
his mom came in and everything.

952
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,240
And of course, when the guys at
the at the celebration, they

953
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,080
they look at him, they're like,
we don't know you, where are you

954
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,560
from?
And instead of answering, he's

955
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,560
like, yeah, let me get, let me,
let me go somewhere else because

956
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,200
they may end up killing me.
Like he doesn't seem like the

957
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,800
type who's going to start a
fight.

958
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,840
But I don't know if Malcolm
Grant comes in trying to fight

959
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,880
him, I have a feeling he's going
to finish that fight.

960
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,520
Like Jamie got that bronze from
somewhere.

961
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,720
So I'm.
Starting to think.

962
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:31,040
I feel like he probably doesn't
fought Dugu a little time or

963
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,000
two.
Right.

964
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,360
And I feel like he also, I feel
like Jamie also got from his

965
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,800
mother, to be honest with you.
Yeah, I think he does have some

966
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:40,440
of that.
I did.

967
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,360
I wrote that.
I wrote that down like at what?

968
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,520
While watching, I was like a lot
of I think he did get that some

969
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:54,560
little bit from his mom and his
also his openness to accept

970
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:59,720
Claire because she was.
Yeah, because she was different

971
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,600
and and given.
As his mom is a different type

972
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,960
of woman, so she was going to be
a different type of mom.

973
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,000
And so especially.
Since Jenny was the oldest, so

974
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,400
she probably, she probably
mimicked a lot of what her dad

975
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,960
did with her with Jenny.
That's one of the reasons why

976
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,800
Jenny is so, so outgoing.
So you know.

977
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,080
Right.
So then so he's so he's used to

978
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,760
women being.
Outspoken and strong and

979
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,600
outspoken and not the what is it
the not the meek and obedient

980
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,040
type, as Claire says, because
that that's what he's used to,

981
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,400
you know?
Yeah.

982
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:48,480
But yeah, I watching this
episode, I did very much feel

983
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,880
like I did the first time I
watched Outlander.

984
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,160
I still think Outlander is a
different, it's a whole

985
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,200
different beast.
But again, this is only the

986
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,160
first episode.
So we don't know how this is

987
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,680
going to be, how big it's going
to be or how much it's going to,

988
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,800
you know, capture the viewers
at, you know, is it going to

989
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,120
capture the viewers as much as
the regular Show did?

990
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:17,760
But I think I saw, I saw someone
comment in the Sassenet

991
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,280
Sisterhood group.
That's the local group that

992
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:25,680
Michelle and I both belong to.
And she stated that she actually

993
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,200
likes blood of my blood better
than Outlander, but she also

994
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:36,520
realizes that blood of my blood
could not be great without

995
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,640
Outlander having come first.
It's almost like, OK, well, this

996
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,160
is what we did with the first
episode of Outlander.

997
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,760
And maybe years later they could
say, oh, well, we could have

998
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,400
done this different.
We could have done this

999
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,000
different.
But because they have that

1000
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,480
knowledge, they did better with
the first episode of Blood in my

1001
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,200
blood.
I don't think that's the case

1002
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,400
because again, outlanders, that
first episode is one of those

1003
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,400
episodes that I will watch over
and over.

1004
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,480
I think I, I, I can't even tell
you how many times I've watched

1005
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,960
that first episode, but it is
one of those episodes that when

1006
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,040
you finally start watching it,
it draws you in, it sucks you in

1007
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,600
and it keeps you there.
And I think this show is going

1008
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:20,960
to do the same, especially with
the cast of characters is so

1009
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,200
freaking amazing.
I just yeah.

1010
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,200
And Dougal just, you know, his
old.

1011
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:33,560
What was it that somebody said
they were like when No, that was

1012
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,840
Lord Lovett.
I think he said he was like, I

1013
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:40,800
don't think they'll give it to
the the cripple, but I also

1014
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,000
don't think they'll give it to
the one who, you know, who

1015
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,200
spreads his cock everywhere.
Basically do do the howl.

1016
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:57,080
He's a howl in in our terms, But
I mean, it is what it is that

1017
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,320
that's a nice that's a nice
looking man.

1018
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,920
So.
I'm here.

1019
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,040
I just seen Henry.
Oh, fights.

1020
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,640
Now you're noticing.
That's Henry.

1021
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,360
Henry yeah, I I know this term.
Once I figured out that was her,

1022
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,480
but now I'm like re looking at
him like oh, Henry, he was in

1023
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,920
the fight.
He was in the fight, playing the

1024
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,960
state.
Yeah, but even before, when they

1025
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:26,120
entered, when they introduced
him, I was like, that's Claire's

1026
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,680
father.
So.

1027
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,160
OK, so both of them are already
in this time.

1028
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,720
And when Ned Gowen starts
talking to him and he was like,

1029
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,960
oh, you're English.
I was like, Yep, that's him.

1030
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,760
I totally missed that.
That's OK.

1031
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,280
I think that was probably
designed that way on purpose

1032
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,920
because.
Because you wouldn't figure they

1033
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,920
would be there, Yeah.
Yeah, and then if you are one of

1034
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,720
those people who avoids all of
the pre show stuff, then you

1035
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,400
probably wouldn't have known
what they look like except for

1036
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,200
in the trailer.
And they're you know, they're

1037
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,680
such the the clips are so quick
in the trailer that I don't

1038
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,120
think anybody would have looked
and be like, oh, that's clear as

1039
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,960
that.
Because why would you think that

1040
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,000
they're in the 70s?
I just thought he was different.

1041
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,440
I was like, OK, he's a little.
He doesn't seem like them, but I

1042
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,840
wasn't thinking.
That they were there.

1043
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,080
Right until I definitely bought
her.

1044
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,560
Later and I was like, oh, that's
wait a minute.

1045
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,400
I didn't even certainly her.
Yeah, I.

1046
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,040
Didn't remember nothing about
her the homemade thing.

1047
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,240
And then him.
I should have definitely 'cause

1048
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,000
he was not even he wasn't even
different.

1049
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,120
Like at least she had like hair
tied back.

1050
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,920
He he's, you know, he just
looked like himself and stood

1051
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,520
out from others.
So might.

1052
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,680
Yeah, yeah.
Because he has the he didn't

1053
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,240
show hair.
He doesn't have the long.

1054
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,120
I was like when I went back and
I was like, message Hannah Co.

1055
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:55,360
And I was like.
Yeah, she was like, I didn't

1056
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,600
realize that was her Pinterest.
Yeah.

1057
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,800
So, yeah.
So let's see.

1058
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,880
I don't think, I don't really
think we need to talk about

1059
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,000
anything else in this episode.
I mean, I like, I like the fact

1060
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,480
that they did the flashback so
we could kind of see Ellen's

1061
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,760
relationship with her dad.
And again, you don't really see

1062
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,360
her interact.
I think Dougal is the one that

1063
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,280
she has the least interaction
with in this episode, which I

1064
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,440
think what kind of makes sense
because Dougal seems like he

1065
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,040
would be the one that she would
be like, I can't stand him.

1066
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,440
I don't want to talk to him like
that's my little brother.

1067
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,840
But no, cuz Dougal thinks he
knows better than everybody even

1068
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,440
in this whole this whole
conversation he and Column are

1069
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,160
having throughout the episode
about which one of them will be

1070
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,560
the better layer.
Like Column is being so calm and

1071
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,440
Dougal is just being insulting.
The fact that he was like, oh

1072
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,400
you can't even stand.
I was like, because you think

1073
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,520
about the way Dougal was when
Column died, that whole

1074
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:03,120
confession and how he was upset
with Column because when Column

1075
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,040
fell and, you know, he, he
damaged his legs.

1076
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,480
He was like, you know, you were
my Big Brother.

1077
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,640
You were supposed to be strong
and then you were weak.

1078
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:11,920
And I didn't know how to take
that.

1079
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,840
And I was angry.
And then Column just kind of,

1080
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,120
you know, committed suicide in
the middle of this whole speech

1081
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,840
and how heartbroken he was.
You you wouldn't think that

1082
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,880
looking at this conversation
that they're having in this

1083
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,320
episode, because they very
clearly detest each other.

1084
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,520
Right.
Right.

1085
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,840
I was just like, oh, that's
like, you are so mean talking

1086
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,720
about his cricket legs and how
he's not a man, how he's not man

1087
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,760
enough.
And but I was like, OK, this is

1088
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,720
going to be interesting to see
how it is that Colin becomes

1089
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,880
layered, how Dougal becomes war
chief.

1090
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:55,040
Because even when when Colin and
Ellen were talking and Ellen was

1091
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,920
like, you know, if Dougal gets
it, you're going to have to

1092
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:02,080
leave, it was like, yeah, I'm
going to be put out or I'm going

1093
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,400
to be seeing our father again
much sooner than I anticipated.

1094
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,240
Like y'all are so calm talking
about the fact that your brother

1095
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,080
wants to murder you is.
Well, you know, they know.

1096
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,000
They knew.
Yeah.

1097
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,320
They knew him well enough to
know he was horrible.

1098
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,720
Like, yeah, that is wild though.
It is.

1099
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,080
It is wild.
Y'all are getting open.

1100
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,400
Ned is like, well, you do know
you're antagonizing him and you

1101
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:28,480
just sent him on the fools
there.

1102
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,440
Oh well, well, you know, kill
two birds with one.

1103
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,640
Stop What?
Right 'cause a problem.

1104
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:37,360
I do wonder, did he do it more
so so that people will see that

1105
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,840
Dugo was a Neanderthal or did he
do it hoping the Dugo will die?

1106
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,880
I would say probably the first
option.

1107
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,840
I don't think he really wants
Dougal dead.

1108
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,680
I think he probably was more
interested in humbling Dougal

1109
01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:01,040
and maybe humiliating him just a
little bit, you know, because

1110
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,480
Dougal obviously has no problems
humiliating him.

1111
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,760
So, you know, maybe just.
And to show that he's a hot

1112
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,520
head, that he shouldn't really
be in charge.

1113
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,520
Right.
What he do to the clan?

1114
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,000
Right.
Because when when they talk

1115
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,760
about what happens, you know,
Ellen, of course, when she takes

1116
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,240
off to go meet Brian, nobody
knows where she is.

1117
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:30,280
And they think, you know, the,
the missus, Missus Fitzgibbons

1118
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,920
thinks, oh, well, you know, the
last time we saw her, she was

1119
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,200
with Malcolm Grant.
So of course Dougal goes to find

1120
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,720
Malcolm Grant, beats him up
before you even look to see if

1121
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,880
she's there.
You just She wasn't even.

1122
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:47,080
There.
You just throwing fish and that

1123
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,400
guy 1 is like, yeah, so the clan
chiefs have already heard and

1124
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,320
the ones who haven't, they will
hear.

1125
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,080
So obviously if you're warning
Dougal about this, you already

1126
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,040
know the clan chiefs are not
happy with this because now

1127
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,320
you've put them all in danger
because what was it?

1128
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,800
They said the Grants have a 300
man army.

1129
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,920
Yep.
Yeah, this is this is not a good

1130
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,280
thing.
And you're just and you're just

1131
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,920
going based off really gossip
you.

1132
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,400
Don't.
Not even good gossip.

1133
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,760
Right.
Just a I'm not sure, but people

1134
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:29,320
saw her walking off with Malcolm
Grant, and now Malcolm Grant is

1135
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,200
gone.
But you go and you just start

1136
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,600
beating the man up without
checking.

1137
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,920
You could have at least.
Told him hey, look at the wagon.

1138
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,760
Yeah, but you know what?
Dougan was looking for a reason

1139
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,680
to whoop somebody's ass.
That's all it was.

1140
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,720
Yeah.
Because I think even if Ellen

1141
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,720
wasn't in the wagon, he was.
He was just looking for a reason

1142
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,200
to fight.
And that whole thing before when

1143
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,280
they were talking, they were
like, oh, well, especially with

1144
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,520
column.
Oh, so can we get some

1145
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,560
recompense if he actually, like,
if he's raped her and stuff?

1146
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,280
Yeah.
Excuse me?

1147
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,520
Or she just went off and she,
you know, he's laying with her.

1148
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,320
First of all, do you even know
your sister?

1149
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,240
Because I can guarantee you if
you knew your sister, you know

1150
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,280
that would not happen.
I have a feeling Ellen would

1151
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,360
have fought him off.
And again, Malcolm Grant does

1152
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,640
not look like he's the type to
fight.

1153
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:26,120
Now, Arch bug might be
different, but yeah, when when

1154
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,360
they started having those
conversations about, oh, yeah,

1155
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,880
well, if he raped her, we can
kill him or, oh, if he raped

1156
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,520
her, can we get some recompense?
And that guy was like, yeah, and

1157
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,520
it'll be kind of profitable, but
but do we really want that to

1158
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,680
happen?
Ned is just like, whatever is

1159
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,880
about to get me lair.
And I was like, OK, so this is

1160
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:49,000
going to be the part that makes
me not like you because y'all

1161
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,240
are so stuck on who's about to
be there that y'all are willing

1162
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,280
to throw anybody under the bus.
And again, I have to remind

1163
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,840
myself it's 1700s, seventeen
hundreds, 1700s.

1164
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:05,400
They have no, no compassion for
their siblings.

1165
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,400
They have no it, it isn't about,
oh, this is my sister.

1166
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:09,960
I'm going to protect her
regardless.

1167
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,360
No, y'all protect her as far as
it goes.

1168
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,600
You know, if it's threatening
your pride, if it's threatening

1169
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,040
your name but threatening her
person?

1170
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,280
Nah.
You know what?

1171
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,440
We could just get record
recompense for that.

1172
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,160
You.
How crazy is that?

1173
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:31,160
Yeah, but you can just.
OK.

1174
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,600
What?
Did he pay if he takes my?

1175
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,760
Would you say, Dana?
Yeah, I was just laughing at

1176
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,280
that.
Like can we get paid if he takes

1177
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:45,760
my sister's virginity or?
Like the nerve, the nerve.

1178
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,560
Anyway, what are you guys
looking forward to in this

1179
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,440
season?
What is the one thing that you

1180
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:58,760
want them to to talk about, to
explain story wise or character

1181
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,360
wise?
What are you looking forward to?

1182
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,880
I kinda, OK, so I, I was
wondering about this because I

1183
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,240
was thinking back to the first
season, the Outlander and when

1184
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,920
Claire doesn't realize she's
putting her foot in her mouth

1185
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,680
when she's talking to Dougal and
Column about the little boy

1186
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,960
being Column's son and all this
stuff, because it's clear that

1187
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,560
he has not been able to
reproduce.

1188
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,760
And then that's Dougal's son and
everybody's like, girl, shut

1189
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,399
your mouth.
Like you don't say it the wrong

1190
01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:30,600
thing.
So that kid was probably what?

1191
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,640
8.
He might have been about, I

1192
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,920
don't know, like.
Yeah.

1193
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,439
And so that means that all that
time he was lair, he did not

1194
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,840
have an offspring until that kid
came along.

1195
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,880
Right.
And so I just want to know,

1196
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,880
like, is there a certain point
where they're just, like,

1197
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,680
struggling him with Leticia and
they're just like, she just

1198
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,520
like, I'm not getting pregnant.
And then was they blaming it on

1199
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,680
Leticia or was they blaming him
on columns, you know, handicap?

1200
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,319
Like what?
You know, what was that like?

1201
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:00,120
Because, you know, back in them
days, you weren't producing no

1202
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,399
babies.
Something was wrong, but that's

1203
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:07,120
why I kind of wonder because
like he must have realized it

1204
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,279
was on him because wouldn't he
would have probably gotten rid

1205
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:12,399
of her right?
Like if she just didn't produce

1206
01:09:12,399 --> 01:09:16,279
him the air as a layer you.
Know.

1207
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,240
I just I want to know about that
thing.

1208
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,479
Yeah, because I also kind of
wondered.

1209
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:27,279
I was like, OK, so was this a
situation where I almost feel

1210
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:29,600
like it would have been a
situation where Duga would have

1211
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,800
tried to seduce her just out of
pettiness and she ended up

1212
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,880
pregnant and column was just
like, OK, well, I'm just going

1213
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,800
to claim him as my child because
the way the way that he had the

1214
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,720
conversation when when Dougal
told him that Galas was pregnant

1215
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,760
and he was like, she's pregnant,
she's carrying my child.

1216
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,880
He said, you mean she's carrying
Arthur Duncan's child.

1217
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:54,560
He was like, that child is
Arthur's child, just like Column

1218
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,560
is, I mean, just like Hamish is
my child.

1219
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:02,040
And I was like, so was this in a
fair situation or was it just

1220
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:06,160
one of those where, like you
said, when he realized he wasn't

1221
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,560
he wasn't producing, was that he
didn't brother to stand in?

1222
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,960
Yeah, but I kind of feel like it
might be the Bible.

1223
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,560
Like it it.
Might be.

1224
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,080
I'm thinking he was like, I need
you to come do this.

1225
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:25,240
Yeah, I got to prove that I can
do this as a lair.

1226
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:27,760
You got to do this for me,
brother.

1227
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,600
You don't do nothing else.
Right.

1228
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:34,560
That's the whole like Bible
verse about like raise kids unto

1229
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:39,400
me and, you know, having the
brother fill in when the brother

1230
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:41,880
could, you know.
Yeah, so he he probably asked

1231
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,760
his brother to fill in.
Yeah.

1232
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:48,960
But you know, the other thing
that I remember, if I remember

1233
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:55,680
correctly, I think I saw
somewhere call him at the time

1234
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,480
that we meet him.
And now I got to go back and

1235
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:02,640
look at timelines and birthdays.
I think he was only in his 40s

1236
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:07,080
when we met them in Season 1.
He wasn't very old.

1237
01:11:08,440 --> 01:11:10,280
That's so hard to imagine.
I know.

1238
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,600
I know because they made him
look older.

1239
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,240
But yeah, but I yeah, but that's
because of all that partying.

1240
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,920
You had him a good time.
Yeah.

1241
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,800
Yeah.
Michelle, these are looking

1242
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,000
forward to.
Are you saying what Murtagh

1243
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,360
story?
No, I need the code.

1244
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,560
Yeah.
What happened to this man,

1245
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,960
Right, Right.
And it can't be heartbreak.

1246
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:42,480
It can't be.
I wonder with him being like on

1247
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:47,280
both sides, Mackenzie and
Fraser, Fraser was that very

1248
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,120
stressful and hard for him to
have to like navigate both

1249
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,520
sides?
Yeah, Yeah.

1250
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,880
I think for me, I think I
mentioned it earlier, I, I want

1251
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,640
to kind of see what the
repercussions are of Julia and

1252
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:10,560
Ellen meeting and whether or not
that's going to be, whether

1253
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:16,200
that's going to be a deciding
factor in how Brian and Ellen's

1254
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,800
relationship moves forward.
And then also just I need to

1255
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,640
know if I.
I need to know if her and Henry

1256
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,600
get back together and I don't
want to wait until next season

1257
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:30,920
to find this out that that part.
So that's what I but I do think

1258
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,200
I do think it it was important
for them to come back to this

1259
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,480
time.
So it is probably to help that

1260
01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:41,360
couple get together.
Yeah, if they come back, that's

1261
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,200
the thing.
About Jamie and Claire, like

1262
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,720
every time they were separated I
was like, please do not give me

1263
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,160
a whole season of them not being
together again because what was

1264
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:49,680
that?
The third.

1265
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,240
Season fourth season and it was
that was hard enough because

1266
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:57,400
that was half a season.
Like excuse me, please stop

1267
01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,640
this, please stop this.
I hate all of this.

1268
01:12:59,960 --> 01:13:02,280
Like why are we doing this?
Like I don't want to see them

1269
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,720
together.
I mean, I mean, it was important

1270
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,560
for the story, but still, no,
let's not do this again.

1271
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,800
I don't want to see them end up
with other people.

1272
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,640
I don't want no, I just I need
them to get back together and

1273
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:22,240
and figure out what's going on.
So but we will be discussing

1274
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:26,360
this show and we will have Dina
back on as many times as she

1275
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:31,600
wants to discuss.
Blood of My Blood Dragon is also

1276
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:36,360
coming up and we will be doing a
Blood of My Blood panel at

1277
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,800
Dragon Con that I will be
moderating.

1278
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:43,920
I will post more information on
that probably over the weekend

1279
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,000
as soon as schedules get
finalized.

1280
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:51,200
But unless you guys have any
last thoughts about episode 1 of

1281
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,920
Blood of My Blood, Dina tell
everyone where they can find you

1282
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,960
online.
So you can find me and my crazy

1283
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,800
hubby on Drunken flirty on
YouTube.

1284
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,920
We have a few other socials but
mainly YouTube is like the main

1285
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,640
area where our videos are.
We have a ton of videos we

1286
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,640
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1287
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,040
Go join, join the craziness and
go watch guys.

1288
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,480
Yep, and I will post the link to
Drunk and Blurty in the show

1289
01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:28,320
notes for this episode.
But for now, that is it for our

1290
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,120
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1291
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:34,240
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1292
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:35,920
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1293
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,800
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1294
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,280
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1295
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,160
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1296
01:14:44,440 --> 01:14:46,040
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1297
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