Outlander: Blood of My Blood (Season 1 Episode 10) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #381

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Michelle and Dina, and we
are discussing the season 1

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finale of Outlander, Blood of my
blood.

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We are already back in Drought
Lander.

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But you know what?
This Is Us out on a good note

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'cause this episode was so good.
It was so good.

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But I know we have thoughts.
I know Michelle got plenty of

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thoughts.
But what we're going to do with

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this episode, because a lot of
the Mackenzie Fraser Grant stuff

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is, you know, it took up most of
the episode.

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We're going to start with Henry
and Julia 1st and then go into

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the other stuff 'cause Henry and
Julia were pretty, pretty cut

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and dry with this episode.
You know, we going on with them

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just we did get some flashbacks.
We finally get to meet a little

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Claire and we finally get to
meet Quinton Lambert, Beauchamp,

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or Beecham.
I will say this, Claire seems

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like she's just as precocious as
a toddler and as a little girl

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as she is as an adult.
And I and she loves cake.

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And she loves cake and I love
the love that Uncle Lamb has for

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her like that.
That kind of makes it for me.

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Us knowing that Claire never got
her parents back, the fact that

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she was so surrounded by love,
that just makes it so much

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better, 'cause he obviously
adored this little girl.

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You know, and he spoke so much
like to her that was real.

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Like, oh, slow down, Sir, you're
putting a little too much.

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Right.
Like, OK, you talking about her

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adventures and all this stuff?
Look, maybe he's the reason why

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she she ended up having that
kind of life.

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It's Uncle Lamb's, though.
You're going to be an adventure.

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You're going to do this and do
this.

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Like slow down, Sir.
She's too, right?

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She's too.
And then, you know, when she's

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5, they're like, Oh yeah, she's
going to, he's going to have her

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doing this and he's going to
have her doing that.

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And she's just, she's ruling
over him over on the beach.

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She's telling him, I want to do
this, I want to do that.

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He's like, OK, let's do this.
I see.

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You know what?
I'm glad we got to see that

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little bit of a little bitty
part of Claire's childhood

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because again, you get to see
kind of what forms her as a

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woman.
You know, she had these two

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amazing parents who loved her
for five years.

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And then when they disappeared,
she has this other surrogate

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parent who basically, like you
said, breathe life to her from

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an early age.
And you can you can just imagine

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that with the loss of her
parents and especially like his

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brother, he probably poured
double into her.

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Like, OK, you know what, I will
make sure this girl knows she's

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loved.
I'm not going to abandoned her,

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blah, blah, blah.
I love seeing that.

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I thought it was so much fun,
and I'm so glad to finally put a

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face to Uncle Lance.
Like we saw him in the very

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first episode of the original
series.

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But that was also an older
version of him, you know?

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So I liked it.
I enjoyed that part.

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Yeah, it was really sweet, but
it was also like, so sad to just

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see like them as a family, as a
whole family, and then just to

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not know like what was coming in
the future and just to know that

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that family was going to be.
Kind of.

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They will never be this family
again.

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I know it was just just made me
sad to watch.

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It was so pretty and sweet and
but it was so sad to think like,

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oh man, their lives are going to
be ripped apart.

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It's crazy.
Yeah, Claire would never see her

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parents, maybe, but growing up
she wouldn't.

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Yeah, maybe old, maybe not, but
clearly we still know, you know,

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she grew up without her parents,
so that that's the most

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difficult part.
Yeah, yeah.

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And I think, I think I've
settled what I think in my head

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is gonna happen.
I think she's gonna meet her

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brother.
That's what I think.

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OK.
I think it's.

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I feel that we need that.
We do need this.

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I was just thinking like, you
know, it could be the parents

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cause who got whoever they go,
wherever they go.

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I don't know.
But that 'cause, you know, they

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left us on the Cliff hammer,
which I knew they would.

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Of course, of course, but you
know, but I they probably did

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that also because they got the
early renewal, so they knew that

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the story would continue.
They didn't have to tie up in

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the loose hands.
I mean, I think I think they

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did.
I think they did really good

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with this one because if the
season had ended, if this was

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just a one shot 1 and done, I
think they ended it in a great

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place because especially for
Jamie's parents, we already know

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kind of what has happened.
We can fill in the blanks and

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you know the interesting thing
about players parents.

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I was reading an interview that
Diana Gabaldon did regarding

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this because she Co wrote this
episode as well as the last

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episode.
And she was talking about how I

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think they were asking her about
writing Julia and Henry because

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they're, you know, of course, in
in her books, they're dead.

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And she, the way that she
described it, she said they

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don't seem real to her because
in her mind, those two, those

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two characters are dead.
So she really tries not to write

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anything for them in the show
because they don't, they're not

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real to her.
Which that kind of struck me

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kind of funny because it's like,
OK, I understand they're not

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real to you because they're your
characters and you killed them

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off.
But you, you obviously have two

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people playing them on screen
doing a really, really good job.

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I, I almost feel like it's a
little disrespectful, but you

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know.
It's very much disrespectful,

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OK, Yeah, it's very much
disrespectful.

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Yeah, because and yeah, y'all
don't want me to get started.

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I mean, I can understand if the
story was one, if it was a crap

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story, you wanted to distance
yourself from that.

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But it it's not they're they're
telling a really, really good

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story and something that for
Claire's parents, it could be

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believable.
You know, you could very well

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put this in a book and I will
read and be like, oh, OK, yeah.

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And like you, you say, Michelle,
and we've had this discussion

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the way that it reads on page.
Claire just knows her parents

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died.
We don't for sure what happened

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to them, you know, And it does
feel open-ended, at least it did

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for me as a reader because,
again, if Claire's parents in

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the books are not time
travelers, where does she get

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the the gene or the ability or
whatever you want to call it?

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Where did she get it?
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And then like you said, her, her
daughter, her grandchildren, it

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has to be in somewhere in the
family.

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Yeah, in the bloodline, I do
wonder if her So yes, she was is

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more about because she had kind
of wrote them off as dead in her

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heart, mind and soul.
She buried those characters and

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they're done for her in that way
as an author, not necessarily as

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a as the show, but like just as
an author.

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She just kind of those
characters in her mind were

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gone.
And then in the show they're

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like, but no, this is a prequel,
so we need to flesh this out.

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And she kind of was like, you
know, but in my world, they're

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dead, you know, I don't know.
I don't.

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Know.
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And I think she has said that
before, like when they came to

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her with the idea and they were
like, OK, so this is what we

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want to do for the show.
You know, she's always been very

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vocal about the fact that she
realizes the show and the books

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are not going to necessarily
match up because, one, her world

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on paper is so dense.
There's so many things that are

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in the books that have not shown
up in the show at all.

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You know, and she realizes that
that's the kind of thing that

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happens when you turn in
something from page to screen.

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You may also yes, but I'm let me
just say this.

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I'm sorry.
It it it it's just I'm sorry And

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and no, I have not gotten
through all the books.

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However, I will one day.
However you write such a rich

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story.
You have even back stories to

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stories, but Claire's parents
you just like totally disregard,

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OK, They did.
And that's all.

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Like you history.
I mean, even Roger has history,

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but Clara has no history.
OK, so that's the one part I

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feel is disrespectful.
But they're getting their due

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time now.
But in getting their due time,

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it's still not great.
And no Hanukkah.

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I didn't like how this ended,
even if this was the last show.

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I know they would never get to
Claire, but damn it, can they

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get somewhere together?
Together 'cause I see them in

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Hawaii or something that I know
that they OK, they don't.

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That's the one couple.
I just want to make sure that

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they're together.
So here we go.

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I don't know if they're
together.

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One has the baby, one don't have
the baby.

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Or did they all end up touching
cause like when he grabbed her

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hand did they all somehow?
So for their for their future,

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we have no clue.
And I'm upset about that.

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Jamie's parents, all the love we
so love, we making love for 20

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hours.
But Claire's parents?

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No, look, y'all gonna stop?
Y'all gonna stop with Brian and

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Ellen because it's still in as
as as long as what was it the

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the a Malcolm episode where
Claire and Jamie reunited?

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That shit took an hour, so no,
we not we gonna give by.

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The end of the year, 20 years.
Give.

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Them and then the lives that
they destroyed for they love.

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See.
So we not there yet.

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We gonna do porn.
But James, I mean, Claire's

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parents got the short end of the
stick.

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That's all I'm trying to say.
Yeah.

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No.
And I OK, I get it.

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I get it.
I get.

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It that was that was part of my
thing too.

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I was just like, I just need to
like just give me, I just I, I

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wish I'd just give us a little,
a inch more, say whether

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somebody traveled or not.
Just to.

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Just to.
Like they pop up somewhere

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together.
We don't know the time, we don't

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know nothing.
I knew they would leave it on a

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cliffhanger but I really wish
they would have gone somewhere

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else.
But I feel like if they do that

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then it would give too much
away.

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Yeah, and I, I think that I
think that's one of the reasons

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as well.
But I, I kind of, I did feel

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that at the end, because you're
having this discussion about,

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OK, well, I'll take him and go
because we or I'll, I'll keep

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him and stay and you go because,
you know, they don't know if the

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baby can travel.
But also you guys don't know the

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in and outs of of what this is.
You know, far as I know, you

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don't have any gemstones on you
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that is a component that you
need to have.

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Like you don't have all of the
information that Claire was able

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to get because at this point you
have only been trying to

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survive.
And it wasn't just one coming

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through, both of you guys came
through even though y'all didn't

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know both came through.
So it's kind of like, OK, is he

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here?
Is she here?

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Did I leave them behind?
You're still trying to figure

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all this stuff out.
So you haven't even thought

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about Oh well, let me go back to
the stones because you're trying

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to figure out how one, how to
stay alive 2 whether or not your

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person followed you through.
And if they did, where the hell

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are they?
Like we already know that Henry

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knew Julia was where she was
supposed to be because he saw

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the SWAK on the rock.
Julia had no clue where Henry

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was up until after she gave
birth.

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You know, But I, I just felt
like at that point, you've got

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Archbug and other grant people
coming after you.

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OK, the time for discussion is
over.

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You can't give her back the baby
and say I'm gonna send you guys

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through to give you a chance and
I'm gonna stay here.

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No, I because at this point, if
the and I hate to say like this,

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if the baby can't travel, I
mean, at least you know where

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where he is.
And if you can figure out the a

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way to get back, at least you
can do that.

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I don't think Arch.
Bug.

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That's true.
That's somebody's.

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Right yeah, I don't think he
would kill the baby to kill the

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baby.
I I mean, but then again I don't

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know it's arch bug.
He might they.

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Gave him it to Mardina.
That would have.

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Been interesting.
That would have been interesting

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'cause I have a theory.
Because if they touch the stones

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right?
And what if they end up in Jamie

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and Claire's time?
That's see, that's what we see.

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We was talking about that.
Yeah, that is like they are with

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a baby.
'Cause remember we said that

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they was just thinking about
getting back to Claire in any

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way anyway.
Oh, also, I was thinking on his

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Grant garb.
He might have had some fancy

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brooch or something holding his
kilt together, and then she

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might have had something in her
ring from the Laird that might

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have helped them.
Yeah.

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OK.
I just and the and the baby is

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is exempt, but then it doesn't
tie into faith and the girl

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singing the song.
So that doesn't tie bowling that

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but it it would be, you know,
nice and special.

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They just popped up.
Well, OK, so here's the thing.

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So what?
If she helps them deliver their

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baby.
Either that or if they they

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travel or whatever, maybe they
didn't travel, maybe they ended

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up staying in that particular
time.

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Maybe it doesn't work because
again, far as we know, they

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don't have jewels or whatever.
So if William is brought up in

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this time, that means that he's
going to be maybe a few years,

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obviously a few years younger
than Claire, like in real

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lifetime, but he would still be
old enough.

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He would be older than Jamie in
seven in the 1700s, right.

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So going back to the whole thing
about the faith revelation or

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what could be a revelation with
Fanny and Jane, we said, OK,

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this couldn't be like maybe
nieces, this might be

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grandchildren or you know, of of
players, whoever.

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It could be Claire's brother's
children and maybe he just

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happened to, I don't know.
You raised someone named.

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Faith, you know, and I mean, if
if he grew up with Julia as his

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mother, she would have sang that
song.

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He could have taught it to her
and then she would have sang it

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to the.
I mean, there at this point,

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there's so many possibilities
that there.

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Could be an Yeah, they could
have another.

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Kid could, and I've just gotten
to the point where, yeah.

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That's true.
I'm going to.

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Try to not.
I'm going to try to not theorize

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so much because there's so many.
There's so many different ways

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that this can.
Go so many ways they can go.

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Like the whole time travel thing
is not it.

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It's not concrete.
Because think about it, Rodger

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went back thinking he was
looking for Jimmy and ended up

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way further back than he was
supposed to go, which had never

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happened to any of them.
He went 200 plus years into the

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past.
There's have always been right

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around 200 to 203 years, so
that's another factor they could

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have, if they did go through the
stones, they could have gone

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further backwards in time, they
could have gone forward in time.

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We just don't know.
That's yeah, that's that is

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interesting you brought that up
'cause I did wonder about that.

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Like how did he he will he was
had Jimmy on his heart, but I

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guess his father was on his
heart more.

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Well, I mean, yeah.
And he did say, you know, I

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thought about my father.
He was thinking about his father

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because he was like, you know,
Jim is without his father.

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I grew up without my father.
I don't want that to happen.

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And it just so happens that
Jimmy named after his father,

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Jeremiah.
That is true.

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So that's where the stones could
have been like, oh, OK, well,

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have we got a Jeremiah for you?
But and not only that, we know

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that his Jimmy was never lost in
time.

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Was never had.
Never had didn't we know that

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his Jimmy did not go through the
stones, right.

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So of course, the stones are
probably like, oh, OK, well, we

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do recognize a Jimmy that is
related to this man that is out

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of time or out of place in time.
You know, I don't know how the

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stones work.
I don't know how they determine

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who goes where or what that what
that whole thing is.

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But something about that pool
was stronger for Rodger because,

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of course, his Jimmy was nowhere
in the stones, nowhere in time.

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So it naturally would have been
like, oh, OK, if he's looking

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for a Jeremiah through the
stones, that he must be looking

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for this one.
Yeah, you know, But again, those

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stones are we still don't really
know a lot about it except for

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what Galis, you know, figured
out about them.

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And and we we know that her
stuff is, while it was, you

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know, correct, it's also a
little bit flawed because she

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was thinking you have to have a
blood sacrifice to go through.

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And that's not always the case,
of course.

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She was thinking, I think she
wanted to do that now.

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She was a little murderous.
Right.

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Like she read that she there was
like 5 points and she was like

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Nah I like the first part right?
This one feels.

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More, you know.
Yeah, this feels more good for

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me.
Yeah.

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Especially considering that
between cares about a Jewel and

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Arthur Duncan that she
apparently killed a couple more

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people in between then.
So yeah.

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Or no, she was.
Murdering people on the island

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too.
They knew her as like a

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murderer, didn't they?
Yeah, in Jamaica, yeah.

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That mean I can't wait to get
there 'cause I'm still doing a.

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Rewatch, yeah.
But going back to Henry and

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Julia and all that stuff, I will
say this too, I almost kind of

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sort of had a very, very, very,
very, very tiny bit of sympathy

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for Lord Lovett because I feel
like Lord Lovett may actually

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think he actually does love
Julia.

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Like he, he behaves completely
different around her.

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So I felt a little, I was like,
OK, you know what?

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She duping him too.
I was like, now he deserved.

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But I do feel a little bit bad.
Just a little bit, no?

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I be She's so good at
manipulating him, her Ellen

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Bone.
Cheese.

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Yeah, but I, you know, it's a
product of the times because

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they have no rights.
They have no autonomy.

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They have no like they are not
in control of anything.

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So what's the one thing you
have?

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You're womanly wild.
So guess what?

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I'm about to put that to use.
Yes, but but when he touched

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that shoulder, he was like you
coming to my bed chamber.

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To that she was.
Like, Oh no, Well, we not.

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Oh yeah.
You ain't sprinkle no more stink

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on this.
Thing, right?

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But not only that, my whole
thing was why not wait until

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close to dark?
Yeah, try to escape.

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Why are you escaping in full
daylight now?

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I like what she ended up doing
as far as, OK, we're going to

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we're going to do this.
You're going to have ballot come

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after me telling, you know, Miss
Porter this because she was

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like, I don't want you to get in
trouble.

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Because remember, I think I said
there's two episodes of God was

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like, if she helps Julia, what
is he going to do to her?

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I was kind of worried because we
don't really know what happened

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to Miss Porter in the future.
You know, we, we know Jamie

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mentions his grandmother.
We don't know how she died.

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We don't know it.
Even if she's dead, she might

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have just left Lord Lovett and
and got the hell off, but we

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don't know.
So that has been a worry of

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mine.
But when she was like, OK, we're

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going to make it so that you
have no, you know, no fault in

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this.
After I leave, wait a little

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bit, call ballet, tell him I was
kidnapped, and then we'll go

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from there.
So that part worked.

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It worked.
I mean, very well.

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They were able to get away her
and Henry with the baby, and

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then like we said, they stopped
to kind of get some rest.

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Watching Henry hold that baby
and just looking at him just

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rocking, just so happy.
Oh my gosh.

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I was like, you know?
I was like, put that fire out,

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they go see you.
That's what I said too.

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Because you.
You.

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See.
Arch bugging them looking like

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please, so much, please don't
find them, please be in the

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opposite direction.
But I kind of figured I said,

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you know what I said they have
had no issues on this ride the

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whole time.
I said something tells me Bug is

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going to show up at Craig the
Dome because he knows that's

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where Henry was trying to go
first time he brought him back.

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Right, 'cause he talked about it
so much.

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Yeah, he keeps bringing.
Yeah, he kept.

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That's the thing about hearing.
He talks so damn much.

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Stop telling people where you
going and doing.

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But The thing is, he didn't say
anything to Bug about that.

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He said it to the before.
And she was, you know, I was

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kind of glad she did not show up
in this episode 'cause, you

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know, I thought she was going to
make some trouble.

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I know we didn't get our core
trouble, did we?

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Because Diana.
Talked them out of it.

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Diana told them you may she was
like, so you spent all this

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season, you know, kind of a push
and pull with Henry and Julia.

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Will they see each other?
Won't they see each other Now?

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You're going to put them
together and you're going to

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have this be the issue.
Like Seema is going to come in

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and, you know, I think her line
was supposed to be, you know,

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Julia was supposed to say
something like, do you know my

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husband?
And she was like, yes, I know

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him in all the wifely ways or
something like that.

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She was like, do you really want
to give them that kind of stress

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and drama right before they're
running for their?

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Lives.
So they thought better and they

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took it out, which I'm so glad
of because I was like, that is

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something we definitely don't
need to deal with.

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They got enough to deal with.
They can, they can talk about

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that later.
Henry can tell her.

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Look, I have a confession.
You know, when I thought she was

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dead, I slept with this woman,
blah, blah, blah.

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Julia's going to understand
because what does she do?

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She slept with a man and and
became his wife.

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To protect her.
So there's not going to be that,

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that drama right there.
But if you had done it right

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then, then yeah, that might
have, that might have caused

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some issues.
Archbug would have found them a

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little bit quicker.
It would have been a little bit

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messy because Henry, I feel like
Henry would have have fought,

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you know?
No, I have my wife and my child

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standing right here in front of
me.

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I'll be damned if you're going
to take them away from me.

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Yeah.
And then that he would have PPFD

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out because he would have
immediately went back to war,

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you know, in his head.
And which is a good thing as far

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as like, oh, I'm, I got the
strength to fight you.

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But it's a bad thing because he
won't be focused on, you know,

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what's happening around him and,
you know, and all that kind of

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stuff.
And he's not calculating when

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he's in that mindset.
Yeah.

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But yeah, that's, I'm, I'm glad
they didn't give us the little

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horror drama because I was like,
oh, that's all we need.

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We didn't need it.
Yeah, I know Julia's better

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woman than to be whining about
that kind of stuff, but you

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know, they like to do that to us
sometimes.

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Right.
I mean, they have enough to.

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Right, and you you definitely
and you definitely know how she

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they are.
So like I can't even see that

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hurting their relationship, but
it's just will be some little

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drama we have for 10 minutes.
So that was the right decision.

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Oh, so she cares about Claire's
parents now?

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I'm just joking since they're
thrown to the wolves, but OK.

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I think just overall this story
wise, she's like, OK, look.

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These are not my.
Character.

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No, I think she cares for them
now, like, oh, I didn't think

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you know what?
You know what?

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I see that I see this.
I you know what?

446
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,040
I have a story for them.
Now I think all together she

447
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,760
just wants it to be a good show,
you know?

448
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,680
Granted, right.
And to fit though to, but to fit

449
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,640
though, yeah.
So that doesn't fit them.

450
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,520
That doesn't.
And we kind of had this little

451
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,280
bit with Jamie and Claire.
We don't really.

452
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,560
Need.
To do this again, right?

453
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,760
It feels like we don't need to
do this again.

454
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,400
Went through it again.
Yeah, Oh my gosh, yes.

455
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,520
And Jamie way overreacted way
like.

456
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,400
Jamie and Claire, both hot
heads.

457
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,640
They are both.
Hot Heads was being nasty about

458
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,760
Leary and I'm like, it's been 20
years.

459
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,160
Yeah, but you know what?
I, I kind of, I kind of felt

460
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,720
clear.
And you this was like sent me to

461
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,600
the to the witch trials.
No, I get it.

462
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,360
I know, but I get it.
But even with Jamie, like dude,

463
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,880
like this, this was like
sympathy sex.

464
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,560
They really just wanted to feel
close to you.

465
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,160
Like get over it.
And first of all, this man been

466
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,640
taking care of your son for
years.

467
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,080
You better get over it.
Yourself but and almost married

468
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,120
your daughter to save her as
well like he's willing to do.

469
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,000
Thank you.
So get over it every time.

470
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,400
Yeah.
So yeah.

471
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,240
Yeah, but Jamie and Claire are,
are very much hot heads, both of

472
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,080
them.
And that is something that I've

473
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,920
noticed.
Like, I don't know where Claire,

474
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,240
Claire gets that temper from
because it's not from Henry and

475
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:28,120
from Julia because those two are
so and I don't want to stay

476
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,160
calm.
But Julia especially Julia

477
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,680
really sits there and she thinks
things through.

478
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,800
She doesn't fly things through.
She doesn't get upset because

479
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,520
even even when she was talking
to Lord Lovett and she was

480
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,440
telling him, look, you might
need to let this, this Grant

481
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,880
thing go, 'cause it ain't doing
you no favors.

482
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,600
And he was like, hold your
tongue, woman.

483
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,040
You don't know what it is for.
You know, a wounded man's pride.

484
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,240
And she was like, I'm just
saying that our son is going to

485
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,240
be king and soon they're going
to be bowing to you anyway.

486
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,560
You're worried about the wrong
thing.

487
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,800
Like she really, like you said,
not just manipulation, but she

488
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:09,720
understands how to read him and
get him to kind of like calm the

489
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,440
fuck down because you over here,
Matt, what are you going to do?

490
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,280
These are the same people who
ousted you out of high society.

491
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,320
These are the people who look
down on you.

492
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,880
What?
What are you going to do?

493
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,200
Right?
They already they don't like

494
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,640
you.
They don't respect you.

495
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,200
You don't really have friends in
that circle.

496
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,360
So getting mad and getting upset
and calling them out names, how

497
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:34,720
is that going to help your
position?

498
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,080
Is is not?
That's the thing, like if she

499
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,680
could have been really his wife,
she would have had that.

500
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,680
She would have had him back in
power.

501
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,280
Oh, absolutely.
Looking into her to be honest

502
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,800
'cause she's.
She was thinking.

503
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,480
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I don't know where.

504
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,200
Claire gets the hot headedness
'cause it did definitely didn't

505
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,800
come from a Mama.
Yeah, and I don't think we've,

506
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,520
we've really seen Henry lose his
temper like that either.

507
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,160
Now, when he found out that they
lied to him, he was upset,

508
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,680
right?
So even with that, it wasn't a

509
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,320
oh, let me go and kill them or
let me go and do this.

510
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,920
It's OK.
You know what?

511
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,120
I just need to get out of here.
I need to go.

512
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,960
I think maybe Claire got it just
from like going through nursing

513
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,800
and being in the war and
dealing, having to deal with men

514
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,440
in her face and, and, and in the
military.

515
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,080
And she probably just got like
no nonsense.

516
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,440
Like, look, I don't even shot
at, I don't sew people up.

517
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,440
I don't cut arms off.
You need to get up out of my

518
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,880
face.
You know, that may be more of

519
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,160
why she's like she is.
And then she's obviously a

520
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,640
little bit more modern because
it's in the 40s or late 30s,

521
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,720
early 40s.
And and it's, and you see that

522
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,600
and you see that a lot too,
where you'll be like, oh, those

523
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,240
two people are so like calm and
collective.

524
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,280
And then they have a kid that's
like coming off the ceilings and

525
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:06,000
and swinging from the fan.
He was like, like how you get

526
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,800
that key?
So that that's just they who had

527
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,640
a fiery, she was going to be
fiery.

528
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,640
She's just fiery.
So it was like 2 water people

529
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,240
came together.
I'm just throwing them some

530
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,200
signs out there. 2 water people
came together and they had fire.

531
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,960
I you know, it happens.
Those look, those recessive

532
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:32,640
genes on both sides just came
together and it became a storm.

533
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,680
2 waters came together.
They were calm.

534
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,600
Waters came together, created a
storm there.

535
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,600
You go that, that, that sounds
like right?

536
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,400
Yeah.
And it actually kind of makes me

537
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,840
want to know more about even
their parents and their history

538
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,800
and like where they they came
from because they, it's probably

539
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,760
a grandparent, just like how
Jamie would tell Brianna you,

540
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,360
you like your grandmama and
whatever, whatever.

541
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,320
It's probably some of that and,
and, and what's her name?

542
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:08,360
Julia or something, You know,
like, yeah, but no more.

543
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,680
I, you know, again, she might
not.

544
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,760
They might.
Those characters might be dead

545
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,960
to her.
I'm actually thrilled with the

546
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,560
fact that they've put them in
here.

547
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,080
I love learning more about them
and learning more about players

548
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,280
background.
And yeah, I'm, I'm enjoying

549
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,960
their part of the story.
I again, I'm still reading

550
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,600
things online where people are
like, I really don't care about

551
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,880
those characters.
Whatever.

552
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,840
Really.
Yes, yes, I just.

553
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,440
I don't understand.
That yeah, I don't either, but I

554
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,840
don't.
Understand why they I?

555
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,680
Have to like them.
We like them enough for

556
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,440
everybody.
Because, you know, Harry and

557
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,320
Julia's story, again, to me, I
feel like it's more intriguing

558
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,040
because it's the story that we
don't know anything about.

559
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,040
So the fact that they're giving,
right?

560
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,560
That's how I feel.
Like even I was telling Dina

561
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,800
before we started recording my
daughter, my oldest daughter was

562
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,840
over here this past weekend and
she watched the 1st 2 episodes

563
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,360
and she's familiar with Outland.
I think she stopped watching

564
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,560
somewhere in the early part of
the Christie storyline.

565
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,000
So she hasn't gotten to the end
yet.

566
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,360
But you know, she, she started
watching it and it's like as

567
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,560
people were coming on the
screen, she had to keep stopping

568
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,320
because she was so amazed with
the casting and how much they

569
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,920
match the people, you know, as
far as the older versions of

570
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,960
themselves.
But then as we're watching and

571
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,280
she's, you know, she's watching
Henry and Julia's story.

572
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,560
Like she's falling in love.
She's like, oh, they fell in

573
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,240
love writing letters and this,
that right, that whole thing.

574
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,400
And then I told her, I said, I'm
just going to let you know, I

575
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,000
said probably by the end of the
season, Henry is going to be one

576
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,320
of your favorite characters.
She said he's already my

577
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,440
favorite character.
So yeah, like, I don't know.

578
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,680
Maybe it's just that we're open
to the possibilities.

579
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,040
Like we're not holding soul.
And that could also be because

580
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,720
all of us, well, I'm, I think
I'm the only one out of the

581
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,760
three of us who have read all
the books.

582
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,360
But I started as a show person
first.

583
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,720
So even though the books are
Canon, the books are not so

584
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,280
Canon to me that I'm like, OK,
well, if they don't follow the

585
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,880
books, I'm not going to enjoy
the show.

586
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,960
No, because I started enjoying
the show 1st.

587
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,080
And I think that could be part
of the disconnect.

588
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,440
The people who were book fans
first, they are the ones who are

589
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,160
usually, oh, I don't like the
changes they've made.

590
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,400
They're veering away from the
story.

591
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,200
They did this, they did that,
and maybe that's the reason why

592
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,600
they can't really find
themselves.

593
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,960
In it.
Henry and Julia's story because

594
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,400
like that Diana says those
characters are not real to her.

595
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,560
I think probably for the book
people, it's it's kind of the

596
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,120
same thing.
They're like, OK, well, her

597
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,200
parents are dead.
Why do I want to read this

598
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,960
background?
Especially if Diana says they're

599
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,440
not time travelers.
Well, you know what?

600
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,440
Yeah, she said it.
And this might be just be

601
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,159
glorified fan fiction.
Whatever it is, I love it.

602
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,880
I love fan fiction.
So especially if it's done

603
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,400
right.
And I'm sorry, this story, it's

604
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,600
done right.
It's it's being handled with

605
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,760
love and care and respect,
especially as it relates to the

606
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,000
original characters.
That's that's how I feel, right?

607
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,280
You know, so, but we got to wait
until next season to see what's

608
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,760
going on with Henry and Julia.
We know that they may have been

609
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,280
separated at the Stones, or they
may have all gone through, or

610
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,800
maybe none of them went through.
Oh my God, if the baby's on the

611
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,199
ground when they come back.
You know what?

612
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,639
I I don't think.
That's going to happen, I think.

613
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,080
They can't do that.
He was trying to do the thing

614
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,560
like Jamie did with Claire.
He was trying to, you know,

615
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,160
guide Julia's hand to the stone.
He must not know his wife

616
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:06,240
because his wife is probably
like, excuse me, if you're going

617
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:07,600
to be here, I'm going to be here
too.

618
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,440
She probably didn't go through.
I'm, I'm thinking they all

619
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,040
probably either they all went or
they all stayed.

620
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,840
But I'm, I don't think they've
separate.

621
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,880
I don't think they're separated.
That's what I'm crossing my

622
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,880
fingers.
Yeah, I just didn't have other

623
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,520
drama.
Yeah, after they get through,

624
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,960
but let them be together, yeah,
because.

625
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,400
Here's the thing.
Julia has said from the

626
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,960
beginning, from the time they
brought her to Castle Leathers,

627
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,160
that she did not belong there,
that she had a husband and a

628
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,920
daughter.
I mean, she told that to Miss

629
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,520
Porter.
Now, I don't know whether or not

630
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,080
Lord Lovett knew, but he knew
that she was.

631
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,800
She was saying that she didn't
belong.

632
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,880
She was kidnapped, yeah.
She was like, I'm from Hyde Park

633
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,080
in London, I'm not supposed to
be here.

634
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,800
So if you all of a sudden, you
know, get brought this this guy,

635
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,560
she says, well, this is my
husband.

636
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,160
OK, guess what?
One that just invalidated your

637
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,040
own nuptials.
Maybe because we do.

638
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,240
We do know Balik will probably
try to kill Henry to be like,

639
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,720
oh, OK, well, nobody else knows
that this is your husband not

640
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,240
knowing that there are some
people who know that that's her

641
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:22,800
husband.
But I mean, it could be that

642
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,960
kind of drama because at this
point, he already knew that she

643
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,760
was pregnant before they they
consummate it because Miss

644
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:36,160
Porter told him so.
Really, if you end up with egg

645
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,080
on your face, it's all your
fault because everything has

646
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,680
been telling you that this woman
is not yours.

647
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,560
This child is not yours from the
beginning.

648
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,360
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he can't deny that.

649
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,800
She definitely told him.
She thought that Julia was

650
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,360
lying, right?
She was.

651
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,120
I'm a woman.
I know these things.

652
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,320
I know what it's like.
And she was like, he's, she told

653
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,240
him.
And he's my my band.

654
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,880
OK, OK Papa, now you know part
of that is is May's response

655
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,520
because when when your seer is
very kind of non committal to

656
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,920
your questions then that does
plant that.

657
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,240
Yes, yes, there's a Prince.
Just not your.

658
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:25,480
Prince, not your Prince.
I need to go back and watch

659
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,440
that.
Yeah, that that I think, I think

660
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,320
I will go back and just watch
that episode just to kind of see

661
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,640
if there are any clues that they
took from that particular

662
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,520
episode and put into this
storyline, you know, as far as

663
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:45,480
Lord love it goes.
But OK, so so right now, Julia

664
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,320
and Henry's fate is up in the
air.

665
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,040
Up in the air.
Gotta wait till next season.

666
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,160
So with that being said, let's
move on over to the other

667
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,640
castle.
And let's talk about, and that's

668
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:05,720
a whole soap opera, so much
going on where you want to

669
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:09,200
start, where you want to start.
Do you want to start Doogu

670
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,160
first?
Let's let's.

671
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,840
Start from the beginning because
you get to see when when the

672
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,480
episode starts and it's this
part you see a bride coming down

673
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,320
the aisle.
And I noticed on my rewatch they

674
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,080
were very particular with the
camera shots to show certain

675
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,960
people like you got to see
misfits game and she's in there

676
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,520
crying.
You see Dougal and Column and

677
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,760
the one thing that I think I
noticed that I didn't pay

678
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,640
attention the first time I
watched, I was like, why is

679
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,920
Dougal not dressed more formally
or, you know, kind of similarly

680
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,840
to Column and to everybody else?
Because Dougal had on the, the

681
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,480
tartan, everybody else had on
like the formal dress, the

682
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,280
formal coat suits and the, all
this other stuff.

683
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,440
I didn't think anything of it.
And then of course, they, you

684
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,480
know, they tell us earlier, what
was it?

685
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,960
The the day before, 2 days
before something right?

686
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,360
The name before.
And, and you start to see Ellen

687
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:17,720
doing her preparations.
You see her doing her walk,

688
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:24,280
being approached by MC Ranik
with his little gift.

689
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:33,760
You know, I I was watching this
and I was like, you know, the

690
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,760
fact that Ellen probably could
have had her own pick of whoever

691
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:44,280
she wanted, you know, out of all
the unwed men, like, yeah, I get

692
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,000
it, you got Malcolm Grant.
Malcolm is so devoted to you,

693
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,000
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But Macronic probably could have

694
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,440
been just as decent to her.
I mean, we don't know.

695
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,840
All we know is that he was
Dougal's choice for her, you

696
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,960
know, yeah, you know, for the
Jacobite cause, blah, blah,

697
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,400
blah, blah, blah.
But I was sitting there the

698
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,360
whole episode listening to all
of these different accounts of,

699
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:10,760
you know, people declaring their
love for Ellen and, you know,

700
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,960
Maura Grant later on when Ellen
does the the poem and she takes

701
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,000
a piss to it.
Yeah, Like, you know, Malcolm

702
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,360
has had his heart set on you
since he was seven.

703
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,400
First of all, that's the first
problem because you're taking a

704
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,360
childhood crushing.
You're trying to apply it to an

705
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,200
adult.
Like, Yep.

706
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,880
I know we talk about the way
that they do things romantically

707
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,600
in this century and in these
times, like, you know, most

708
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,920
people, they fall in love at
first sight or, you know,

709
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,440
whatever the case may be.
But it was it was like as much

710
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,160
as I like Malcolm Grant as a
character, I and I do.

711
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,320
He's a good man.
I understand everything.

712
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,800
I was just at a point where I
was like, I really think she is

713
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,200
not going through this wedding,
you know, because before we find

714
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,960
out all the the stuff that
happens, I was like, I really

715
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,160
hope this is not her.
Like, is she gonna leave him at

716
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,560
the altar?
Like I thought it was about to

717
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:19,880
be a a Whitley moment and Wayne
Wayne moment.

718
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680
Like Brian's going to come in
and be like, no, I want to be

719
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:23,880
with you, baby.
Please.

720
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,320
It should have been something.
Like.

721
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:33,520
That, but it it it was just
Ellen's whole demeanor that

722
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,160
whole time.
You just look and she just seems

723
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,760
so resigned to her fate.
And I was just like, this is not

724
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,360
the Ellen I want to look at for
a whole another season.

725
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:50,040
Like you never you never in the
in the main show, you know that

726
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,640
she and Brian elopes, but you
never hear about the

727
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,480
circumstances.
Like we were trying to figure

728
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,200
out, OK, So what happened?
Was she with Malcolm?

729
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,480
Did she end up leaving him?
Did they not go through with it?

730
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,680
Like, everything at the
beginning of this episode kind

731
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,960
of points to she's about to go
through with this wedding, but

732
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,800
she looks so sad and so Ellen.
Like.

733
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,280
She didn't look like herself.
Yeah.

734
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,400
And I was just like OK so how
are they about to play this out

735
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,440
now?
I wasn't expecting it to play

736
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,480
out the way that it did up until
Dougal was in the damn thing

737
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,760
screwing with the the ladies
maid and Maura Grant comes in.

738
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,720
When she said her name, I said,
oh, because this is the same

739
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:38,880
wife that Dougal had his fit
about when she died in the main

740
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,240
show when he was dating Gaylis
and he got word of his wife

741
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:48,520
dying.
This is the wife, that's what.

742
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,720
I I had to look it up.
I.

743
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,040
Thought so, but they.
Pointed her name out so clearly,

744
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,800
yeah.
Yeah, I.

745
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,440
Glad, glad that I looked it up
and I was like, oh.

746
00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:59,480
Yeah, that that was the same
woman.

747
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,000
Yeah.
Soon as her reaction to him

748
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,840
wasn't one of like, she wasn't
flabbergasted.

749
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,920
Her clutch, she wasn't clutching
her pearls.

750
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,080
I was like, Oh yeah.
Oh, yeah, me too.

751
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,120
And I just figured they will get
married later, though I didn't

752
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,480
think it would be them who got
married.

753
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,200
I wasn't putting that together
at all.

754
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,720
I just thought that they were
going to, you know, have some

755
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:26,560
fun and somehow that ends up
being his wife.

756
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,880
Yeah, I thought so too.
I was.

757
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,640
So that was a that was a
surprise.

758
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,240
I was like, somehow let me go
back though to right.

759
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:42,000
And she's so like, she wasn't
taken aback with him doing those

760
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,240
things, you know?
But the girl up there, but you

761
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:47,560
got all he was.
She was right.

762
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,320
But you got offended when we
playing The Bachelorette.

763
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,560
Game over.
Yeah.

764
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,440
Yeah.
Because I had to do.

765
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,120
What about your brother?
I was like, Boo, that let you

766
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,240
know that somebody wasn't under
her spell.

767
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,400
Somebody knew.
She really didn't want that boy.

768
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:05,240
The sister knew.
Which is true.

769
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,440
Let's again we forget Ellen is
live.

770
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,280
How?
But how?

771
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,920
However, I was like, ma'am, you
didn't have to come to this

772
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,120
party.
Now me, me and the sister's

773
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,480
having a good time and you ruin
it.

774
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,200
Wait, what?
That's how he felt.

775
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,880
I wasn't talking about him.
Did I say your?

776
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,160
We're just drinking word games.
In fact.

777
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,640
That Jacosta got on her ass.
Jacosta.

778
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,200
Was like.
Right.

779
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,160
She was like, we over here
trying to have a good time.

780
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,240
Ain't nobody thinking about your
brother's looks, but if we were.

781
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,400
Right.
We sisters, we can fight.

782
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,800
Ain't nobody else come for you,
Boo.

783
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,760
Let.
Me tell you so.

784
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,880
I know I say Jacosta gets on my
nerves sometimes.

785
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,760
But I mean.
When I say she stepped up in

786
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,120
this episode for her sister and
all it took was an apology from

787
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,960
Ellen, a sincere apology, like
sincere apology.

788
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,160
Exactly.
I didn't know what was going on.

789
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,280
She was like, I know all these
other things that taught taught

790
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,440
me all these other things.
I understand how to how to run a

791
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,960
household and all this other
stuff.

792
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,000
But the other things I didn't
know, you know, because Ellen

793
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,720
was so dead set about getting
married.

794
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,960
Why would she take the time to
learn these things or to learn

795
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,040
what makes a marriage good or
what makes 1 happy?

796
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,000
She's just like, oh, OK, if
she's like, she's thinking the

797
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,400
way the men think, oh, it's a
good match.

798
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,360
You know, you're going to go to
this household and be rich and

799
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,200
be a high lady or whatever.
You should be happy.

800
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:43,560
And now that she's on the other
side of it, she sees, oh, OK,

801
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,280
you know what?
There is a little bit more to

802
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,040
that.
Like, and we saw that a couple

803
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,920
of episodes ago with her and
Jacosta.

804
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,840
She was like, look, I didn't
realize that this takes so much

805
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,720
away from us as women, you know,
And, and when she said that

806
00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:03,240
apology, apology to Jacosta,
Jacosta was like, So what is his

807
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,680
trick?
She was like, no, I just really

808
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,800
realized I owe you an apology.
And then she also apologized to

809
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,880
Jan.
And Jan was like, I'm good.

810
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,240
I like what I'm I'm good.
I like my.

811
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,200
Husband right now, yeah.
But that's the other thing about

812
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,760
Ellen that's dumb is like.
You.

813
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:24,560
Clearly chose to ignore what
women go through in marriage.

814
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,760
If you didn't understand,
because I thought that was the

815
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,600
main reason she didn't want to
get married.

816
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,960
It's 'cause she wanted to make
sure she picked the perfect

817
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,800
person for herself.
Because like you can tell,

818
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,480
Jacosta has been miserable with
her sick sweats, nasty, whatever

819
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,080
she got going on over there.
And you know, she could, I can

820
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,520
only she probably looked at her
brother and his wife and they

821
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,280
how they react to each other.
So it's like I feel like she,

822
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,640
she, well, I feel like it was
more about her choice being

823
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,400
taken away that was the issue
more than her not really

824
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,280
knowing.
Well, I think also, if if you

825
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,480
think about the the like she
mentioned her mother when she

826
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,440
was talking to Malcolm's uncle
and she was talking about how

827
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,600
her mother was a good was a Good
Wife to her dad.

828
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,920
So it also could be that, you
know, it seems like Red Jacob

829
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,560
loved his wife.
You know, maybe that's what she

830
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,680
was holding out for.
She was like, oh, OK, well, I

831
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,200
don't have to go through all
this other stuff.

832
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,520
I can just wait for this.
Or maybe she just didn't want to

833
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,120
get married period.
Because all the conversations

834
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,960
that we heard her having with
read Jacob, it was never about I

835
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,240
want to marry for love.
She was like, I don't want to

836
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:42,720
get married, you know, She was
like, we got, we got two of them

837
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,160
married off already.
We're good.

838
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,480
Right.
It's not like it's not like all

839
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,360
the girls need to be married to
save our to save our lives.

840
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,560
But then you find out, yes, it
was 'cause it was not the money.

841
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,400
Right.
But I think also to the other

842
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,880
thing with Ellen is and, and
this is probably naive on her

843
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,960
part.
Maybe at some point she really

844
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,560
thought that her dad would would
somehow defy tradition and name

845
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,960
her Laird or put her in charge
as a successor.

846
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,640
Because he not died.
For all conversations that they

847
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,960
had, he made it seem like that
was his choice.

848
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,920
Yeah, he very clearly made it
known that he had a preference

849
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,680
for Ellen.
Like, everybody knows it.

850
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,720
The kids know it.
All the clans people know it.

851
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,680
They knew that Ellen was his
favorite.

852
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:42,360
So maybe somewhere in her brain,
however little part that was,

853
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,960
maybe she thought, OK, you know
what, maybe dad will leave me in

854
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,560
charge now she.
Probably had that intention and

855
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,400
'cause it's not like they knew
he was gonna die, you know, he

856
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,960
just, you know, I was sudden.
So he might have actually had

857
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,280
that intention, which is also
very sad.

858
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,960
Yeah.
'Cause you could have put it in

859
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,120
right, Sir.
Right.

860
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,520
Yeah.
And you could you could have

861
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,440
been like the catalyst for
change.

862
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,800
Yeah.
But you know, also, if you think

863
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,680
about some of the things that
we've heard about him through

864
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,080
this season, that might not have
stuck either because Ned even

865
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,480
says he was like, your father
was not well liked in these

866
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,960
parts.
Like he was the lair, but nobody

867
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,040
really cared for him.
It's.

868
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,080
Crazy.
So, you know, he probably could

869
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,960
have said, OK, well, I'm leaving
Ellen in charge, and his people

870
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,880
probably would have revolted or
whatever it is they do in the

871
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,640
clans when they don't agree
because they would have been

872
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,280
like, OK, we really don't like
you now because now you're

873
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,480
trying to put a woman in charge
of us.

874
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,760
How dare you?
Yeah, you know, just so dumb.

875
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,440
But at least she got her apology
off.

876
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,840
And, like, from then on, her and
Jacosta were tight.

877
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:58,320
And I loved it because Jacosta
is the one who actually

878
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,600
technically kind of saved her
because Brian, I don't know what

879
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,080
Brian was thinking.
And I need to know what it is

880
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,720
about the black hair that people
keep saying we've never seen in

881
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:12,840
hair as black as you're like.
What is it about the black hair?

882
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,720
So what I was thinking about
that is that like the red and

883
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:21,920
the black were kind of both
things that happened, but they

884
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:28,360
were still so like so different,
you know, still like that maybe

885
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,360
we.
Had a lot of.

886
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:35,600
A lot of brown, deep Browns.
And red, when you you do, you

887
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,520
see a lot of Browns.
You see a lot of Browns.

888
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,560
And who are red, They're red.
And then it slowly comes into

889
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,240
brunettes and stuff.
No one has jet black hair.

890
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,240
'Cause it's like, you know, I
used to dye my hair jet black

891
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,760
because I thought my hair was
black until I used to dye my

892
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,360
hair jet black.
And I was like, oh, he's like,

893
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,120
that is a big difference between
real, actual black hair.

894
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,480
And, and so technically our hair
ain't really black when we think

895
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,640
it's black typically.
So I guess he is was so black

896
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,040
that it's just like, this is
wild.

897
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,880
Like, but where would that even
come from?

898
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,040
I wonder, 'cause his dad is just
as red, you know?

899
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,400
And Davina ain't ain't super
dark, right?

900
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,560
She dark, but she ain't jet
black.

901
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,840
Yeah.
So so I don't know, but you

902
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,560
know, they mentioned it also
when he was there for for the

903
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,920
little games that they did after
red Jacob died.

904
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:34,640
You know, when they when the the
quote UN quote suitors were, you

905
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,560
know, giving him a a tough time,
They were like, who who are you

906
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,960
and where are you from?
We don't, we don't see hair that

907
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,720
black around in these parts, you
know?

908
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:50,240
But but yeah, when when he
actually makes the plan and we

909
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:54,640
got to go back to him and Murtha
because Dina and I were, Dina

910
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,400
was texting me the whole time
she was watching the episode.

911
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,880
And she was like, they don't
deserve Murtha.

912
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:06,320
Murtha, let me tell you.
And I said I know Michelle, but

913
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,400
Murtha also coming in the
clutch, you know?

914
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,800
It's being there at the right
time.

915
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,760
Right, sitting there, yes, he's
talking to Brian.

916
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,760
Cause Brian is still upset
because of Ellen's breakup.

917
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,160
And Merta's like, OK, hold up,
let's think this through.

918
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:28,240
Let's be smart about this.
He was like, so think, don't

919
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:30,560
think about what she said.
What were her eyes telling you?

920
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,120
And this is something I was
like, yeah, I can imagine older

921
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,760
Merta saying something like
this.

922
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,760
I really can.
And he was like, you know, her

923
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,400
eyes did it.
It didn't match.

924
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,800
You know, her eyes were saying
one thing, her voice was saying

925
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,320
another.
He was like, and what does what

926
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,560
does your heart tell you?
That I would love her for the

927
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,680
rest of my life.
And Mirtha was like, yeah, I was

928
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,720
like, yeah, Mirtha's like, Yep,
I understand that feeling.

929
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,120
And you get to like, Brian
really gives him an apology,

930
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,840
man.
Like, look, Mirtha, I'm so

931
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,720
sorry.
Mirtha's like, OK, you know what

932
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,120
he was like, I understand this.
But let me tell you, she loves

933
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,960
you.
She has, like, anybody can look

934
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,360
at her and see.
And I was like, yeah.

935
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,480
Which is why it's so weird that
nobody else is paying attention

936
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,600
because every time he's there,
her gaze is there.

937
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,880
But OK, whatever.
Yeah.

938
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,080
Yeah, especially the I don't
even know if it was the last

939
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,120
episode, the other episode when
they were in public.

940
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,880
Like you can clearly see y'all
want each other.

941
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,840
Sitting there touching hands and
stuff.

942
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,440
Yeah.
Yeah, but while they're sitting

943
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,160
there talking, here comes the
Gallow glass again after them.

944
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,920
Now, this is what I thought
during those scenes.

945
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,800
I was like, these are the hired
assassins.

946
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,840
These are the ones that
everybody's so scared of because

947
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,480
Brian and Murtha made quick work
of them.

948
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,120
The end.
They were also, I will say they

949
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,400
were also kind of overweight and
old.

950
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,960
But again, these are these are
the assumptions that everyone is

951
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:01,920
scared of.
Like these are the ones that

952
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,480
when column threatened Dougal,
Dougal straightened the fuck up

953
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,760
and was like oh let me see about
all my confessions.

954
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,880
He did, but they ain't had them
young bucks to fight.

955
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,600
You can't raise the bucks, baby.
Because first of all, you let

956
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,840
them get away from you.
The first time you had you had a

957
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,400
simple target you and if you
have been the half the assassin

958
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,960
you should have been, then that
first time you fired that arrow

959
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,160
at him you should have hit you
should have hit your target,

960
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,240
Brian should have gone down.
That should be the end of

961
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:39,040
everything.
What kind of assassins are you?

962
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:47,000
I mean, you shot what, 3 arrows
at him and missed before he took

963
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,920
off running.
And then of course Murta

964
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:54,480
intervened and and saved him And
then you come back, he throws an

965
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,520
axe at one of you, which I was
like when I saw the axe I said

966
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,000
yeah, they they're not going to
fare too well with this because

967
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,040
Brian is an ace at the axe
throwing.

968
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,920
So he gets that guy, he comes
over, stabs him merchants over

969
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,400
here fighting with the other guy
when he cut that man across his,

970
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,760
his hamstring.
Who I.

971
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,240
Was like, oh, he's not getting
up.

972
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,280
Then he cuts his throat and you
have the third assassin and it

973
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,880
was just out there.
Just out there.

974
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,400
Then you have the third
assassin, who Brian gets with a

975
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:35,120
bow and arrow and talk.
About how he was the worst

976
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,880
assassin of them all, because
how do you take your attention

977
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,360
out the person he's supposed to
be killing?

978
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,840
You ain't great.
You ain't watching your

979
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,880
surroundings.
You you won't see.

980
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,000
Oh come on now, you shouldn't
buy he shouldn't make out of

981
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,000
like that for.
For the one that you look, this

982
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,760
is not the Martha is not even
the one you're getting paid to

983
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:58,040
kill, but that's the one you
actually hit and and injure.

984
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,680
When when when Mertha took the
arrow to the last old Michelle

985
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,920
gonna be pissed.
I know 'cause he.

986
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,520
God damn it he get hurt.
But that's OK, we have seen him

987
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,920
fight in the future.
So I'm fine.

988
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,560
Yeah, Yeah, I'm fine with that.
But you know what?

989
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,080
They do not deserve him.
No.

990
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,440
And I'm mad that he didn't have
a love of his own.

991
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,320
Yeah, well, for a little bit he
had the cost.

992
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,920
But like the stuff he was saying
to Ellen when he gave her that

993
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,200
gift, I could have cried.
I know.

994
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,600
It was so beautiful.
That is the most romantic thing.

995
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,280
And then she already knew.
She was like, oh, we'll keep

996
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,600
this to ourselves, right?
He knew this man is coming with

997
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,840
his whole heart.
I was just like.

998
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:58,480
Yeah, but yeah.
And that's why he take care of,

999
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,400
that's why he take care of JB.
That baby boy.

1000
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,600
Yeah, yeah.
But when Brian had that third

1001
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,320
assassin and he was asking him
like, who hired you, Who hired

1002
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,240
you?
I think at the end of the last

1003
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,680
episode, we weren't sure who
are.

1004
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:21,080
And then we got a comment on our
YouTube video for the last

1005
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,720
episode where someone said, I
think it was Column because of

1006
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:31,320
what he said to Ellen.
He was like, yeah, I won't harm

1007
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,440
him or cause him harm from this
point on.

1008
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,480
I Yep, you know, them, them the
Mackenzie's, they sneak you with

1009
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,120
their words.
Because even in this episode,

1010
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,640
when Ellen goes to talk to
Column, she's very clever with

1011
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,440
her words.
So she's very careful with the

1012
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,400
things that she says to him.
Yeah.

1013
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,600
You know when when the assassin
does realize, you know, when he

1014
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,520
does reveal that it's column and
Martha was like, why do you

1015
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,360
think they disliked you so much
that they would actually spend

1016
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,080
the money to kill you?
Like what?

1017
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:07,040
Money they ain't got.
But column was like, Oh no, I'm

1018
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,720
going to pay this money to
guarantee I will get the grant

1019
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,360
money later on.
I'm going to make sure he was

1020
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,680
trying to eliminate all
obstacles.

1021
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,400
But unfortunately, you know,
like you said, the gala glass,

1022
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,160
they, you know their reputation
does not perceive.

1023
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,080
Them and The thing is, you know
what it also because like like

1024
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,160
they are, they were a little
chunky and a little old.

1025
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,480
I do wonder if they're old
school, you know, coming up

1026
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,480
reputation was so fierce that
they grew up hearing about the

1027
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,920
gala glass.
And that's why I scared do go so

1028
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,280
bad because I don't I don't
think these are the gala glass

1029
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,360
bodies that people remember.
But you know the other thing,

1030
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,520
too, it could be that as
assassins, as paid assassins,

1031
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,240
maybe they're a little more
sneaky.

1032
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,160
Like they come at.
They come, you know, find you at

1033
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,160
night while you're asleep, or
they attack you when you're not,

1034
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,040
you know, when you're not paying
attention.

1035
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,720
Yeah, they're not really paying
attention.

1036
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,960
Right.
And like I said, if it had been,

1037
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,440
maybe if it had been anybody
else other than Brian, yeah,

1038
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,720
they probably would have been
successful.

1039
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,520
But we already see, we, we
already know Brian is, is a

1040
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,880
skilled fighter, right?
He pays attention to his

1041
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,200
surroundings.
And then also because of who he

1042
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:27,160
is being Simon Fraser's bastard,
he kind of has to be like, OK,

1043
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,800
you know what?
I got to pay attention to my

1044
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,320
surroundings because he knows
people don't like his dad.

1045
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,440
And they may take out whatever
that dislike for his dad is on

1046
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,560
him just out of, you know, spite
or whatever.

1047
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,920
So which is very sad.
Yeah, it is.

1048
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,600
But yeah, after that, Brian is
like, OK, you know what?

1049
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,800
I got to go get my woman.
I got to, I got to figure this

1050
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,080
out now him knocking the dude
out while while the dude is

1051
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,400
peeing so he can get the grant
tartan.

1052
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,960
I was like, OK, that's clever.
But it was so weird because I

1053
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,920
was like, I don't like you in
these colors.

1054
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,480
And not only that, where did you
put your Frasier tartan?

1055
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,720
Because if that guy wakes up and
there's Frasier tartan next to

1056
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:21,040
him, he's gonna.
So I was worried about that.

1057
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,640
Thankfully, that didn't come
into play.

1058
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:23,880
We didn't have to worry about
that.

1059
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:30,320
But The funny thing was when he
when he sneaks into the castle

1060
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,000
and he kind of, you know, makes
this makeshift gift like he's

1061
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,640
gonna, you know, give it to
Ellen from Malcolm and who is

1062
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,000
the person he comes into contact
with is Jacosta.

1063
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,080
And Jacosta is like I've seen
you before.

1064
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,240
I saw you at Braemar, you with
Murtha and you had on Fraser

1065
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,840
tart and Brian's looking like,
oh shit, I'm caught.

1066
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:01,840
But luckily, Jacosta is like I
said, she's in a very good mood.

1067
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,840
She and her sister have made-up
they're they're, you know, being

1068
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,120
friendly again.
And then when she hears what's

1069
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:14,840
going on and she takes him to
Ellen's bedchamber and Missus

1070
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,200
Fitz is like, he got to go.
She said, no, you need to hear

1071
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,600
this.
He probably say this.

1072
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,760
She was like, let him say what
he came to say.

1073
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,880
She's like, he risked his life
to be here.

1074
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,880
Let Aaron Ellen hear it because
at this point, she's probably

1075
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,000
like, if Ellen still says go
away, OK, at least I did my

1076
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,800
part.
You said your part.

1077
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,080
She's made her decision.
Let's go.

1078
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,920
Thankfully, all they had to say
was column tried to have him

1079
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:43,840
kill.
Excuse me?

1080
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,880
What?
Oh, guess what?

1081
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,040
I don't have to keep my promise
now.

1082
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,600
I don't have to make.
I don't have to go through with

1083
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,120
this new wedding 'cause I really
think.

1084
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,640
I really think that if Brian had
not shown up, if she hadn't

1085
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,320
found out about Column, I really
think she would have gone

1086
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:04,600
through with that wedding
because she is about protecting

1087
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,640
her, right?
She would have.

1088
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:16,760
But when she, when she went in
to talk to Column, I felt again,

1089
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,640
I felt a smidgen of empathy for
him because when she walked in,

1090
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,960
I think that's the first time
when he sees her, that's the

1091
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,000
first look of genuine pleasure
that I've seen on his face.

1092
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,160
Like, he looked really happy to
see her.

1093
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,760
Yeah.
Even the way he spoke her name,

1094
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,200
he was like, oh, I'm happy.
This is my sister.

1095
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,840
And then, of course, he starts
talking about the clan stuff.

1096
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,000
And I was like, yeah, he's just
happy because he's about to get

1097
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,800
what he wants.
He's about to make sure that his

1098
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,000
clan is, you know, out of debt.
He's going to be OK.

1099
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:55,320
And you could just like, I was
like, are you so that out of

1100
01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:00,160
touch with your, your sister,
who you were so close to before

1101
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,720
all of this stuff happened, that
you are not reading her face,

1102
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,240
that you do not see the
displeasure on her face, that

1103
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,280
you didn't hear the tone of
voice when she said, is there

1104
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,880
anything else you wish to burden
me with?

1105
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:17,000
Like she already knows.
And you can see his face kind of

1106
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,000
go, Oh.
And then he, he was like, no,

1107
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:25,400
she tutored that eyebrow up.
I said, I said, he, he needs to

1108
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,840
pay attention to her face,
'cause you sitting here saying

1109
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,080
all this stuff.
Oh yeah.

1110
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,680
This is what we're going to show
them for our loyalty.

1111
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,240
And you know, we do this for our
love of you.

1112
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,320
And she, you can see she, she
wanted to go off.

1113
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:41,040
She.
Wanted to go.

1114
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,320
Off and she wanted to cry, but
she she held her own.

1115
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:49,280
She was just like and.
Hey, for him to say that and oh,

1116
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,480
and I, you know, I hope we can
share with each other one day.

1117
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:57,600
I'm like, you know, you did.
Like, we can, you know, I hope

1118
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,960
that we're still close as we've
been all these years.

1119
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,640
Because she was like, why would
you want me to?

1120
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,760
You're not going to be worried
about another man's wife, right?

1121
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,720
He was like, Ellen, you're my
sister.

1122
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,800
And I was like, yeah, you should
have said that shit to her a

1123
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,320
couple of episodes ago when you
were like, oh, yeah, you're

1124
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,520
going to stay.
You know, you're going to be

1125
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,640
living the life that you're used
to by our good graces.

1126
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,280
You didn't.
You weren't sounding like oh,

1127
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,160
you're my dear beloved sister
then.

1128
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:29,880
And how close we are.
I was like, and then she was

1129
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,880
like, well, let's just be the
last thing that you have to do

1130
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,680
in my name more for love.
For my love of me, baby.

1131
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:41,760
And then she said, well, I need
to go now and prepare for my

1132
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,960
future.
I said, she's giving you an

1133
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,680
opportunity to loosen that noose
from around your neck.

1134
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,320
And you are so prideful and you
think you know what you're doing

1135
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,680
and you're the smartest of the
bunch and everything that you

1136
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:04,120
don't even see it.
Like you don't see the change in

1137
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,160
her body language.
You don't see the look on her

1138
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,600
face.
You don't see the way when she

1139
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,520
turned around, the way she
looked at the room.

1140
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,800
Like this will be the last time
I look at this room.

1141
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,960
Yep.
There was a little bit of that

1142
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:22,200
pride and also anxiety, you
know, of, of what's to come and

1143
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:27,880
like he just just smile and nod.
Because The thing is that for

1144
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,560
whatever reason, the men in this
and it's time they go always,

1145
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,320
they always refer back or defer
back to women not knowing

1146
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,920
anything and women not being
smart enough.

1147
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,560
And I have minds of their own
and all this stuff.

1148
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,680
And it gets them in trouble
every freaking time.

1149
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:49,720
Just one I want somebody, maybe
mad, maybe whoever.

1150
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:54,120
I want someone to sit, call them
and doodle down and say y'all do

1151
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:59,400
realize it was Ellen's idea for
y'all to split the layer ship in

1152
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,280
this way so that you wouldn't
lose the clan.

1153
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,320
Yep.
Ellen came up with that.

1154
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:14,200
I I just want them to understand
that she has kept them in the

1155
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:21,880
life of luxury that they're used
to because I want to see the

1156
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,080
look on their face.
But that's OK because Colin got

1157
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,600
embarrassed because of course
she leaves.

1158
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,440
She dips.
And I, I just want to know what

1159
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,320
that conversation was like
because Malcolm Grant is the one

1160
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,760
who finds out.
So who told who tell Malcolm?

1161
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,160
Because Malcolm is not supposed
to see Ellen.

1162
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,800
So what did he try to go to her
chambers again, like before the

1163
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,080
ceremony like he did at the
other ceremony?

1164
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,360
Like, I know I'm not supposed to
be here, but I just wanted to

1165
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,640
see you before, bro.
That's probably.

1166
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,400
That's a good point.
I did wonder, like, how did he

1167
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,560
find out?
Before them, yeah, unless they

1168
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,440
told him and he was the one that
said something and that was the

1169
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,840
part that they came in on
because it's not like he was

1170
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:03,600
telling them.
Yeah.

1171
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:09,520
And then when when you could see
kind of the the the gears

1172
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,720
turning in columns head because
he's like OK, if Ellen is not

1173
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,880
here what can we do?
And then when they walk out and

1174
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,960
he tells Ned he was like go find
my brother.

1175
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,920
I said whoop.
Because Malcolm big Malcolm came

1176
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,400
that I I like his character.
He ruthless, but I like his

1177
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,120
character.
He was like we either having a

1178
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,320
head or we having a hand.
Y'all pick which one you.

1179
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,080
Want.
Right, baby, I screamed.

1180
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,760
I screamed.
Cause Colin was like, OK, well

1181
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,320
I'm already married, I can't do
it.

1182
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,120
So right, who does that leave?
And you know.

1183
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,160
Google.
I had I I kind of laughed when

1184
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,840
when Jacosta told Ellen, yeah,
so we are going to have a

1185
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,520
wedding today.
Dougal is going to have to marry

1186
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,360
Maura.
She was like, well, I wish him

1187
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:58,800
and more of the best.
I like, I just wanted to see

1188
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,600
Dougal's face when Colin told
him, OK, because Ellen decided

1189
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,800
to tuck tail and run.
Now you're going to have to do

1190
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,480
your duty to the clan and marry
Maura Grant because you know

1191
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:16,120
Dougal was cussing her ass out.
But at the same time, you know,

1192
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,640
Dougal was probably looking
like, OK, you know what?

1193
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,319
I reap what I sow.
Basically.

1194
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,479
Because if I hadn't opened my
mouth.

1195
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,840
Yep, none of this would be and.
And I tried to marry her off

1196
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,840
that part, somebody I wanted to
marry her off too.

1197
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:33,720
So how does that feel, sucker?
Now you got to be married off,

1198
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,960
but right?
However, it's not fair though,

1199
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,240
they had sparks so.
It is.

1200
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,800
I'm on this Ferg right now but.
Let me tell you.

1201
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,600
So it would have been best if it
was someone he really, really

1202
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,880
didn't like.
But he's like really enjoying

1203
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:56,399
himself right now with her.
He is that let me tell you that

1204
01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:59,520
mess was funny because she's
she's like, OK, so shall we get

1205
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,200
to it?
Consummate the marriage.

1206
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,439
He was like like I'm eating and
drinking.

1207
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,279
She's like take me to your bed
chamber when they get in there.

1208
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:09,439
She's so matter of fact with
everything.

1209
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,640
But I told Dina I said I fell
out when she was trying to

1210
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,359
figure out OK, so do you want it
this way?

1211
01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:17,000
She lay back on the bed like OK.
And he was like.

1212
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,000
You don't or you don't want to
see me?

1213
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:21,279
She said it took me all day to
get in this dress.

1214
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:23,520
I'm not going to do this again.
She was like, you don't get it

1215
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,800
this way.
Or do.

1216
01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:29,279
You want it so that we don't
have to look when she turned

1217
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:32,560
around and tooted her butt up.
Girl, I spell out laughing.

1218
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,640
Oh my God, I was like, you know
what I said?

1219
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,960
At this point, if Dougal is not
at at the very least intrigued

1220
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,359
by this woman, then he doesn't
deserve her because all these

1221
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:46,800
other plain women that he's been
with.

1222
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,960
Ladies, lady, ladies in waiting
and shit.

1223
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,040
And Mara has Mara's like, oh,
OK, let's do this.

1224
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,960
You want it this way or do you
want it this way?

1225
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:01,320
And then when we see them having
sex later, she's very clearly

1226
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,960
getting her.
She's getting off.

1227
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:05,320
He's like, oh, my God, what
happened?

1228
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,480
Did I hurt you?
I was like, oh, yeah, this is

1229
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:11,080
the 1700s.
This is when men didn't realize

1230
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,160
that women could orgasm.
Yep, that's.

1231
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,200
All.
Well, you know, I think she's

1232
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:17,720
about to teach him a couple of
things.

1233
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,040
Yeah, she's like, oh, so you
didn't?

1234
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:26,000
And I was like, that is so
perfect because it's never us

1235
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,720
that asked that question.
So she.

1236
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,200
Was like you didn't He was like,
no, she was like, oh, then I've

1237
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,480
been done yet and she.
Starts, you know, scoot on up

1238
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,240
here I'm.
Gonna show you so he is not We

1239
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,600
should not feel sorry for him.
No, I don't feel.

1240
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,400
Sorry for him at all.
You know what?

1241
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,160
But this might be, this might
just be a one time thing for

1242
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,880
her.
She might be like, OK, let let's

1243
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,600
get this over with.
Because I mean, at that point,

1244
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,920
like, did you see the
awkwardness when they were

1245
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,920
getting married because they
didn't know whether to hold

1246
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,960
hands, they didn't know whether
to touch, they didn't know

1247
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,200
whether to kiss each other.
And then they're just looking at

1248
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,840
each other and looking away.
I was just cracking, right?

1249
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,200
Like do.
But you know what?

1250
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:09,240
That also that was that was also
some chemistry they didn't know

1251
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,320
how to deal with.
Yeah, I think so too.

1252
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,040
'Cause she watched, she she saw,
saw what he was working with

1253
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,840
earlier.
And he kind of.

1254
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,320
Liked us all.
So they like, oh, I don't know.

1255
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,320
And after this episode, I don't
think she's gonna say I'm done.

1256
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,760
No child, 'cause she she worked
out and then she probably

1257
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,440
pregnant because she, I think
that was her initial thought was

1258
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:37,000
like, let me get a baby in me,
get this round, get this thing

1259
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,600
going.
And so we can get on past this

1260
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:44,040
point because, you know, once
she pregnant, that's an error,

1261
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:45,360
you know.
Yeah.

1262
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,440
Yeah, and she's and she having a
good time.

1263
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,800
I took a Hanukkah.
I'm like, oh, she don't have her

1264
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:55,200
a few.
And he didn't even consider

1265
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,640
whether she was a virgin or not
or nothing.

1266
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,560
He didn't care.
He just went on with with.

1267
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,800
The primary at this point it's
it's not like he had a choice.

1268
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,640
Right, that's true you.
Know like he told her she was

1269
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,560
like she was like, look, you
like lassies.

1270
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:09,960
I like laddies.
What's the problem?

1271
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,600
He was like, look, it's it's
more to that than this.

1272
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,760
He was like, I didn't, I didn't
wake up this morning thinking I

1273
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,720
was going to be, this was going
to be my wedding day.

1274
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,520
And she was like, don't, don't,
don't make it awkward.

1275
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,440
You know, you just you, you
overthink.

1276
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:25,080
Right, well, he probably awkward
because he said I didn't take a

1277
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,320
good bath from earlier.
I didn't know because.

1278
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,560
You know, that's the first thing
I thought about.

1279
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,800
I'm like, you know, he was up in
Hildy or whatever her name was.

1280
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,240
Right, that's what I was
thinking of too, what he said.

1281
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,040
I didn't expect to be getting
married today.

1282
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,800
No, but he probably.
He probably.

1283
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,800
My bath ain't due till tomorrow.
No, he probably did a wash up

1284
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,360
real quick when Colin called him
in there and said you're getting

1285
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,120
married today.
And he was probably like, excuse

1286
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:49,600
me?
What?

1287
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:51,520
Yeah, you.
Get married.

1288
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,120
So, Ellen?
Took off and it wanted us to not

1289
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,840
die.
Somebody has to get married.

1290
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,920
And unfortunately, of the rest
of the Mackenzies that are here,

1291
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,640
you are the only one that's
unwed.

1292
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,840
Cuz I mean, Can you imagine if
Jacosta or Janet weren't

1293
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,640
married, then it would have been
one of them marrying Malcolm

1294
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,560
Grant, which Jacosta probably
wouldn't have had a problem with

1295
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,000
you because at least Malcolm
Grant is young.

1296
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,800
He's close to their age, you
know?

1297
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,640
He's a manpower, you know?
He's not reasonable.

1298
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,520
Yeah, he would be reasonable.
She probably, she probably still

1299
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,200
would have been like, but at
least it would have been a

1300
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,640
little bit of a better match
than whatever old man she's

1301
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,320
married to now.
Yeah.

1302
01:13:38,440 --> 01:13:40,080
What you're laughing at in the
background?

1303
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,960
Girl that her own.
She just got hers and was like

1304
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,040
hold on, sled up.
I'm going to I'm going to get

1305
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,560
you ready.
It's too.

1306
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:54,640
Funny, that's like, OK, so we
got to talk about this escape

1307
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,400
because Brian and Ellen are
actually still in the castle.

1308
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,920
We don't need to they're they're
disguised as servants.

1309
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:07,440
Ellen has her hair covered with
a bonnet and Jacosta and Missus

1310
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:10,560
Fitz come to tell them, OK, hey,
the coast is clear.

1311
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,480
They're at the the wedding feast
now.

1312
01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:14,760
You should be able to get off
the grounds with with no

1313
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,120
problems.
So we see this really emotional

1314
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,800
goodbye between her and Missus
Fitz, which explains to me a lot

1315
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,800
because you know Missus Fitz, we
know her from Castle Leoc.

1316
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,880
Like she stayed at Castle Leoc.
We didn't know until the

1317
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,840
beginning of the show that she
was Ellen's handmaiden.

1318
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,400
So I was like, well, why does
she stay at Leoc and didn't go

1319
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,400
with Ellen?
Well, this explains why.

1320
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,800
Because one, she couldn't, she
couldn't let them know she was

1321
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:46,000
complicit in Ellen's leaving.
And then two, she's probably

1322
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,600
like, OK, this man don't have
nothing.

1323
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,240
Y'all are going to have nothing,
nothing.

1324
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,600
Where would I go?
What would I do?

1325
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,440
How would I survive?
You know, and at this point,

1326
01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:57,800
she's married, she probably has
children.

1327
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,320
She's got to think about her
family.

1328
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,280
So you see the emotional goodbye
with them and then you see the

1329
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,080
emotional goodbye with Ellen and
Jacosta.

1330
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:11,040
And that that did make me more
sad because now when I think

1331
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:15,920
about the first time Jacosta
sees Jamie as an adult and she

1332
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,640
says, I really miss Ellen.
I miss my sister.

1333
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:23,440
Now I feel like, OK, yes, I can
see, I I can feel that because

1334
01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:26,240
before I was like, I'll say you
miss your sister.

1335
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,200
Yeah, you.
Like where this come from?

1336
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,480
Right, exactly.
But I, I felt it in this one,

1337
01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:35,040
like Jacosta was like, OK, you
know what, somebody's going to

1338
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,240
get their happiness.
And if it can't be me, it might

1339
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:43,880
as well be you, you know?
But and then of course, they're

1340
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,280
getting ready to leave.
They take the corridor and I

1341
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,080
don't understand why they didn't
just go through.

1342
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,480
The way they.
Usually go through that kitchen

1343
01:15:53,480 --> 01:15:55,400
or maybe they were on their way
to the kitchen.

1344
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,440
But Malcolm Grant, who has been
in the wedding feast seething

1345
01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:03,320
and and complaining and griping
to his uncle, you know, he he

1346
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,280
comes down the hall.
He bumps smack dab into them.

1347
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,600
He's like you've returned to me.
I'm like, do you not see how

1348
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,240
she's dressed?
Yeah, and do you not see her

1349
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:20,080
with another man?
No, that's the.

1350
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,080
Thing that got me because I was
telling Dina, I said for you to

1351
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,000
sit here and just start all of a
sudden going off on Brian

1352
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,280
talking about oh, he's nothing
you're choosing him over me.

1353
01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:34,200
He's he's not worth anything.
I was like, you don't even know

1354
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,240
who this dude is.
I didn't.

1355
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:36,760
Even know him, get the look out
of.

1356
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,560
Here.
So I mean, I understand you're

1357
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:44,560
upset, but obviously if she is
clinging to this man's hand,

1358
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,840
obviously this man means
something like substantial to

1359
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,640
her because we've never seen her
so much as hold your hand,

1360
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:59,600
period, right?
Because I, I don't, I don't

1361
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:05,400
think I've seen it.
But you know, when when he

1362
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:10,080
starts getting mad and again,
his uncle's words are probably

1363
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,360
in in his head.
He was like, OK, well, you know,

1364
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,160
you can do the revenge.
Why don't you find out what she

1365
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,120
what what she holds most dear
and take it from her.

1366
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,160
Now, I don't know what made him
think he was going to be able to

1367
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:27,000
take on Brian cause Brian
already stands like almost a

1368
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:32,760
whole head taller than you.
And Brian obviously came there

1369
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:39,760
prepared to fight, but when he
pulled that that dagger out, I

1370
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,760
just paused.
The TVI shook my head.

1371
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,360
I said, OK, so at least we about
to find out what happened to

1372
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,680
Malcolm 'cause I already knew I
was like, yeah, he's about to

1373
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,640
die.
He's about to die.

1374
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:50,760
And and I I won't.
Let you finish.

1375
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,080
I I know I didn't know what was
going to happen 'cause I thought

1376
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:59,280
that maybe he accidentally
stabbed Ellen and that was what

1377
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,600
caused it.
And then, you know, seeing him

1378
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,680
kind of swinging, you know, real
wildly, and I forgot he had been

1379
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:11,000
drinking, so he was not clear.
He was not sober.

1380
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,360
He starts swinging at Brian.
And Brian is trying to like,

1381
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,880
look, dude, just let us go.
She obviously don't want you.

1382
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:19,000
Just let us go.
Leave us alone.

1383
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,800
Let us let us go.
Whatever her sake, just let it

1384
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,560
go, right?
She gets in front and he almost

1385
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,680
strikes her.
Brian pushes her out the way.

1386
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,880
He gets cut.
Then he tries to stab Brian.

1387
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,920
Brian grabs the dagger and
plunges it into his chest.

1388
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:41,160
And I was just like, OK, this is
going to be difficult.

1389
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:42,520
This is going to cause some
problems.

1390
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,040
But it depends on how they left
his body.

1391
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,080
Because Brian pulls him out of
the hallway.

1392
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:51,320
Yeah, the way they could have
done it so that they won't have

1393
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,320
any issues.
Malcolm is already distraught.

1394
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,760
He's upset.
He's been upstaged by his

1395
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:02,600
fiance, he they really could
have sat him down, put his hands

1396
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,200
back on the dagger and made it
look like he did that to

1397
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,320
himself.
Yep.

1398
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,240
Which we don't.
Know they could have done that,

1399
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,640
I I don't know.
But yeah, we don't know.

1400
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,800
I felt so I did feel bad for
Malcolm because I was like, you

1401
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,440
know what, All he wanted to do
was just love this woman.

1402
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:24,040
And because she was in a
position where she didn't get to

1403
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,720
choose.
And I, you know, I know that

1404
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:30,080
hurt for him to hear it, but she
told him she was like, I never

1405
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,040
made any.
Promises.

1406
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,000
To you, she was like, yeah, but
you know what?

1407
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:37,000
OK, I'm sorry.
I know what this show was called

1408
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:41,000
and who it's for, but that was
still This is wrong, wrong,

1409
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,880
wrong and wrong.
What are we going to start off

1410
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,520
with?
She did.

1411
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,520
You didn't have to say you made
no promises, but you didn't have

1412
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,240
to act so endearing to the man
like you care.

1413
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,040
But I mean, she did.
I mean, no, I'm not talking

1414
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,440
about care like that.
I'm talking about that you care

1415
01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:00,400
like you like you were going to
marry him.

1416
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,120
You know, you could have been a
little standoffish, a little bit

1417
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,640
a little like, I'm not
apprehensive.

1418
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,560
So when this came, he was like,
oh, you know, she was showing

1419
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,680
signs.
No, you, you.

1420
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,840
Yes you can change your mind all
you want to.

1421
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,680
Yes you can say no.
However, y'all still got to

1422
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,840
understand that this man, the
sister said he's loved you since

1423
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:29,800
he was 5 pretty much.
So he is absolutely devastated.

1424
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:35,960
Let's roll reverse here.
If this was Brian and she left

1425
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,240
you at all, you would be
devastated too.

1426
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,720
And his uncle was just his
uncle.

1427
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,600
He was around the wrong person,
feeding into him.

1428
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,440
Yep.
You got to get revenge.

1429
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:47,640
Because if it was someone else,
they were like, dude, it

1430
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,280
happens.
You'll find you another woman

1431
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:51,720
you'll love, you'll remember
her.

1432
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,240
But you, you will really fall in
love with someone else.

1433
01:20:54,440 --> 01:20:58,000
But no, his hateful, right.
Right.

1434
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:02,720
His hateful uncle is one that
causes causes, really causes

1435
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,040
death.
Yeah, but I will say this too.

1436
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,320
As far as Ellen, you're right.
I do agree.

1437
01:21:10,440 --> 01:21:13,760
She didn't have to leave him on
the way that she did because she

1438
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,040
was very amenable to him.
She was very pleasant.

1439
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,720
She was very affectionate in in
her own way.

1440
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,600
But.
At the same time, I kind of feel

1441
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:29,560
like maybe for her because at
the time she didn't see another

1442
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,760
path forward.
She really thought she was going

1443
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:35,480
to have to marry this man and
rather than start that that

1444
01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:41,120
marriage off with any animosity,
any, you know, any kind of bad

1445
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,480
feelings, you know, she did what
she did with Brian.

1446
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:47,040
She got it out the way she she
gave column her word.

1447
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:51,200
I won't see him again.
So maybe in her mind, she was

1448
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,840
just preparing for what that
life was going to be like.

1449
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,800
Like she you know, I said this a
couple of episodes ago.

1450
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:58,680
Yeah, but she kind of wrote him
a letter.

1451
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,320
If it wasn't for Brian, if she
had never met Brian, I think she

1452
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,320
and Malcolm could have actually
had a good marriage.

1453
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:09,080
I think they, you know, she
could have learned to have loved

1454
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,960
him.
And I think that he would have

1455
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,920
treated her, You know, he would
have treated her right.

1456
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,520
He would have treated her with
with respect and I think that

1457
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,280
could have been a successful
marriage.

1458
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:24,040
So maybe in her mind, because
she already knew she was going

1459
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,400
to have to marry this man, maybe
she was just like, OK, you know

1460
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,800
what, let me just play this
part.

1461
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,520
This is something I'm going to
have to do.

1462
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,480
This is something I'm going to
have to get used to.

1463
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:39,280
And I don't know if if Brian
hadn't have shown up and told

1464
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:43,840
her what happened, then Malcolm
would have never known about

1465
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,840
Brian.
He would have never known that

1466
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,000
she didn't feel that way about
him.

1467
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,520
You know, back then, the, these
men, they didn't care whether or

1468
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,400
not the women love them the way
that they did.

1469
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,160
He he did, obviously.
But most of these men that's

1470
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,760
just like, you are literally
here to spread your legs and

1471
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:05,160
have an air for me and and wait
on me hand and foot, you know?

1472
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,720
And it was even if if you even
think about the way Malcolm's

1473
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:13,440
uncle talked to her when he was
like, yeah, Malcolm talks about

1474
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:19,040
your mind and your, you know,
the things that that sets Ellen

1475
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,120
so different from the other
women.

1476
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,840
Those are the things that
Malcolm likes.

1477
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:28,480
And I again, I really feel like
she was playing her part because

1478
01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:32,320
she knew what was expected of
her and I think she had every

1479
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,840
intention of going through with
that.

1480
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,320
Now her finding out about
columns betrayal, at that point,

1481
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,120
she's like, all bets are off.
I don't care because you know

1482
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,720
what?
Y'all didn't care what y'all

1483
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,680
were doing to me.
Y'all didn't care if y'all were

1484
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,880
hurting me in order to get what
you want.

1485
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,120
So at this point I'm about to
get what I want and I just feel

1486
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,680
I just like that's that's what
it was.

1487
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,440
I mean, it was, but she still
could have wrote a letter or

1488
01:23:56,440 --> 01:23:57,640
something.
She could have wrote him a

1489
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,880
letter.
And she, you know what?

1490
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:00,880
She probably.
And say how he's such a nice

1491
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,760
guy.
Like, you know what?

1492
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,480
She got away.
Yeah.

1493
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:07,800
OK, now that's too late, 'cause
the bitterness in his the

1494
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,920
bitterness, you know, you are
stood up at the altar like you,

1495
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,120
you steal.
I still feel bad.

1496
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,120
For him I still feel.
Bad for him.

1497
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,360
I really do feel bad for him,
for them to have this magical

1498
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,000
love.
This man was his choice, so

1499
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,400
maybe that's why Jamie has his
name.

1500
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,200
And Jamie?
Hello.

1501
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,000
How many lives have?
Yeah, I, I.

1502
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,760
Just but this one was really
close because he was like

1503
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,080
actually innocent person.
It would have been best if we

1504
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,440
made him bad and then we would
have been like OK, he just he he

1505
01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:42,520
died he deserves it.
But he really cared about her,

1506
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:46,800
like he cared about when they
did the the if you a virgin or

1507
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,440
not.
He was worried about her.

1508
01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:51,160
Then it was just everything.
Yeah.

1509
01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:56,880
Yeah, but I also get the feeling
that he was, for lack of a

1510
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:02,200
better term, from back then.
He was kinda in sellish, I

1511
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,480
guess.
I feel like he had this crush on

1512
01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:07,560
her since he was a kid.
And then he clearly wasn't

1513
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:11,200
getting women, was not knocking
on his door even with his little

1514
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:12,920
money.
He's a little Hobbit self.

1515
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,760
He he didn't have no whole bunch
of women jumping after him.

1516
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,120
You can tell it.
Could have been that he did, and

1517
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,200
he was just so set on Ellen
McCann.

1518
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,040
Closed off.
I think he was closed off but.

1519
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,160
They would have wanted him for
his money, I feel.

1520
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:26,200
I feel like they would have
more.

1521
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,720
Yeah, but he he did.
He couldn't see past her.

1522
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,520
So they could have been women
who was willing and able, but he

1523
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:38,600
can't.
It was always and he he couldn't

1524
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,920
get past that.
And now he don't have a chance

1525
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,240
to get.
Past Brian did tell him to stop.

1526
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,760
He did.
He did.

1527
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,120
He should have.
He should have stopped.

1528
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,960
He knew he wasn't doing nothing.
He did, but you know, he he been

1529
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,880
drinking.
He been drinking, right?

1530
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:01,600
And and like they said, he
wouldn't have, even if he had

1531
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,080
let them go, he wouldn't have
let that go because going back.

1532
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,560
To his heart.
Is broken, you know?

1533
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:11,160
About a man's wounded pride, you
know.

1534
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,720
Well then the uncle wouldn't
have helped the I think he would

1535
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,160
have been OK, but not with the
uncle like that.

1536
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,760
He would, he wouldn't.
Prior to the uncle even allowed

1537
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,400
them to have another marriage to
replace it.

1538
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,920
The uncle was just like, look.
This is a business arrangement.

1539
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,040
Right.
But like after he told her he

1540
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,120
would RIP her heart out, I just
was like.

1541
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,600
I I think he still may try, but
right now we need to get this.

1542
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:41,480
Somebody get married today.
Yeah, yeah, somebody.

1543
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:43,960
And then we'll worry about
killing her later.

1544
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,920
But right now, somebody getting
somebody getting married today

1545
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,520
he was.
Worried about the embarrassment

1546
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,680
first because I.
Was in that saving face, yeah.

1547
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:56,000
The crazy thing was because she
actually had on the dress that

1548
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:00,120
Ellen was going to wear, so and
she had that heavy veil over her

1549
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,440
face.
So nobody saw her walking down

1550
01:27:02,440 --> 01:27:04,320
the aisle.
Nobody saw when, you know, when

1551
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,840
she pulled the veil up, nobody
saw who it was.

1552
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:11,440
So when the preacher said, will
the groom stand up and join his

1553
01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:13,560
bride?
And Douga stood up, you heard

1554
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,000
everybody like, I was like,
everybody is thinking, wait,

1555
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:18,520
Douga's about to marry his
sister.

1556
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,720
What is going on?
Like, you know, people were

1557
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,280
confused because nobody knew
what was going on and.

1558
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:28,480
Then Jacobs was like, calm down,
OK?

1559
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:34,400
Right.
Just hold on, we could.

1560
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:40,440
Don't panic.
That mess was funny, but OK, so

1561
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:45,240
we have Malcolm dead.
Brian and Ellen, they continue

1562
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,760
on.
They go back to the little what

1563
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,480
they call a boffy.
The the little, I call it a

1564
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:56,680
Hobbit house.
Yeah, that that Merta's in.

1565
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:00,520
And, you know, they basically
tell them what happened because

1566
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:04,040
when Martha sees Brian, he's
like, oh, OK, he's safe.

1567
01:28:04,440 --> 01:28:07,480
And then when Ellen comes in, he
was like, oh, there's a whole

1568
01:28:07,480 --> 01:28:13,000
bunch of people pissed off.
It was like, if you're here.

1569
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,520
And then they tell him that
Malcolm is dead.

1570
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,560
He was like, yeah, we we might
have a little heat on us because

1571
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,160
Malcolm is dead.
But again, depending on what

1572
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:26,720
they did with him, it they could
because a lot of people saw that

1573
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,560
Malcolm was upset at the feast.
It could very easily be

1574
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,440
explained that he was so
distraught that he killed

1575
01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:37,560
himself, which even if that is
the case, Malcolm's uncle is

1576
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,720
still going to come after Ellen
because he's going to be like,

1577
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,360
it's your fault that he did
this.

1578
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,400
Yeah.
You know, So either way it goes,

1579
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,000
they fucked up.
Yeah.

1580
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,320
And then he's what?
He's going to be immediately be

1581
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,760
layered now, right, Because
Malcolm's dead.

1582
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:54,440
So that explains why he's so
well, why Malcolm was involved

1583
01:28:54,440 --> 01:28:57,840
with the gold later.
Is the old Malcolm that's

1584
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,760
involved with the gold later
with Bug.

1585
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:03,000
Yeah, because he was the one
that that's the Jacobite.

1586
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,240
He was the one that, you know.
Yeah.

1587
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:13,040
Yeah.
But the conversations that they

1588
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:18,560
have with Murtha in this body,
we we kind of referenced it

1589
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,000
earlier.
I'm with Dina.

1590
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,600
They don't deserve Murtha.
They really don't.

1591
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,480
And I'm, I'm not, you know, true
love.

1592
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:28,000
I get it.
I get it.

1593
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,600
Y'all love each other.
But their love shouldn't cause

1594
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,880
other people's pain.
I get it.

1595
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:40,680
But alerts he has a moment where
he wakes up the next morning.

1596
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,520
Brian is outside cutting logs
and Ellen is inside and they

1597
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,040
start having a conversation and
he tells Ellen that he has a

1598
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:54,120
gift for her.
And it's, it's the, the boars,

1599
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:59,960
the, the, the, what you call
them the tusks, the, the boar

1600
01:29:59,960 --> 01:30:05,440
Tusk bracelets that we see in
season 1 of Outlander that Jamie

1601
01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:11,200
gives to Claire or that Jenny
gives to Claire, that we find

1602
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,320
out that Merta was the one who
gave them to Ellen.

1603
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:17,680
So this is the moment where he
gives her the bracelets.

1604
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,560
And you know, she's looking at
it, she's like, OK, I got all

1605
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,800
these extravagant gifts from
these men who love me.

1606
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,640
She was like, I can't take this.
And he was like, look, I had

1607
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,760
planned on giving them to you as
a wedding gift.

1608
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,080
And then she looks at him and I
feel like.

1609
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:35,360
He was like from your husband,
not not as an outside source.

1610
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:40,120
Wedding and I feel like that was
probably, I don't know, the way

1611
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,680
that she reacted.
I feel like that was probably

1612
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:47,040
the first time she understood
the depth of Murta's feelings

1613
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,760
for her.
Like I'm sure Brian probably

1614
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,440
mentioned it to her when they
first got together that Oh yeah,

1615
01:30:52,440 --> 01:30:55,720
Murta has a thing for you.
I don't think she really realize

1616
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,760
the depth of it until that
moment.

1617
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:02,160
Yeah.
And then at that point, she

1618
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:04,560
really treated as sacred.
She was like, OK, this will be

1619
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,000
between you and me.
And she was like, and I will, I

1620
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:10,560
will accept these as a token of
our friendship, our friendship.

1621
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,880
And then he says what is
probably one of the most

1622
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:21,920
beautiful and saddest things
because she says something about

1623
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,720
his happiness, wanting him to be
happy.

1624
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:30,160
And he said, just let your
happiness, you and Brian's

1625
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,080
happiness, let that be my
happiness, and I'll be OK.

1626
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:38,160
And I was like, that is so
beautiful and so sad at the same

1627
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,120
time because these are the two
people that Murtha loves the

1628
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:46,280
most in the world.
And he was like, look, if I

1629
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,880
can't have this happiness, let
me be a part of yours.

1630
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:53,360
Let me be a part of yours and
his and just be a part of it.

1631
01:31:53,360 --> 01:32:00,120
And now it's like that makes his
his devotion to Jamie even more

1632
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,080
point even more his sacrifice
and.

1633
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,520
And it's more understandable how
we were talking about why he

1634
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:13,200
talking more about her then, you
know, then Ryan, 'cause he

1635
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,720
probably this whole like, what
is it 13 years that they have

1636
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:20,440
together, her and Brian, that
he's probably super devoted to

1637
01:32:20,440 --> 01:32:25,000
her the whole time.
You know, because he saw the

1638
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:29,800
compassion, he saw it on her
face that she, she realized he's

1639
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,760
in love with her.
He can't have her.

1640
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,400
And that her loving Brian has
hurt him to his core.

1641
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:40,120
Brian loving her.
And she's like, oh, this, this,

1642
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:42,520
this, OK, I got to take care of
this man.

1643
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:46,760
You know, Like that whole scene,
it's just mind blowing.

1644
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,840
The writing on that was just
mind blowing because I was just

1645
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,680
like, it was beautiful.
There's so many layers and so

1646
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:54,680
much depth that, you know, Oh my
gosh.

1647
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,320
And then it just sums it up.
So like even like you said, even

1648
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:02,440
if this was the end.
Yeah.

1649
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:08,720
Of this, like, it fits to why
he's so, like, dedicated to the

1650
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,040
family.
Yeah, 'cause at first I didn't

1651
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:14,560
know how this was about to come
out to be right, but now I see

1652
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:18,480
right.
I mean, and he's still grumpy,

1653
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:26,680
but I understand 'cause you
happy, but you not fully happy.

1654
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,280
Yeah.
And I can honestly take this as

1655
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,960
their ending like left on a
cliffhanger and their ending a

1656
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,480
lot more than than Julia and
Henry.

1657
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:38,920
Because I feel like.
OK, we kind of know.

1658
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,920
We we, we basically know what's
going to happen.

1659
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:46,800
We don't know some more little,
you know, intricate pieces, but

1660
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,680
we know specifically like
they're going to have kids

1661
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,320
they're going to be in love for
at least this amount of time.

1662
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,840
I would have been OK with this
as their ending and.

1663
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:59,280
We also know that Brian never
gets over her because even this

1664
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:03,640
season 7 of Outlander, when
Brianna comes back to find

1665
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:07,760
Rodgers, she actually gets a
moment to speak to her

1666
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:12,520
grandfather and he has never
gotten over Ellen, which is

1667
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,480
which for me.
Again, I think that's the only

1668
01:34:15,480 --> 01:34:21,440
thing that makes it like, yes,
I'm upset that Merta got hurt in

1669
01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:26,240
all of this, but when you see
how much he has held on to that,

1670
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:32,200
like Ellen at this point has
been gone for what, Jamie 50

1671
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,680
something years?
So so he's she's been gone 45

1672
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:38,640
years at least.
Well, no, because I forgot he

1673
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,640
died.
He died when Jamie was. 16 or

1674
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,040
something like that.
When he got beat at the jail, he

1675
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:50,440
was. 20, I think 19 or 20 when
that happened.

1676
01:34:50,440 --> 01:34:55,760
So an additional 15 years passed
when she died.

1677
01:34:56,160 --> 01:35:00,400
I mean, yeah, it kind of it.
It makes you say, OK, you know

1678
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,640
what?
I understand Martha got hurt,

1679
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:06,240
but this was this was that
forever love for this man.

1680
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:11,000
And I'm sure if Ellen had lived,
it would have been that for her

1681
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:12,760
as well.
I mean, if you think about the

1682
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:18,000
the little vows that she says to
him after they have their I was

1683
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:23,000
just like, it hurt me so much
because I was like, you see how

1684
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,520
much love there is between these
two people only to know that

1685
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:31,400
within a matter of years.
Yeah, so sure, it's going to be

1686
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:37,000
gone and it's just, but it's
like the the way I reconcile

1687
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:42,040
that, though, is they had their
thirteen years or so of

1688
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:46,120
relationship is better than her
having 50 years healthy with

1689
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:50,480
Malcolm 'cause she had that,
whatever that spiritual bond

1690
01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:53,520
was, she had that for at least
13 years.

1691
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,560
And, you know, but Dang, it's so
short to do all this and go

1692
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,360
through your life and then you
die so young.

1693
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:01,640
It's just.
OK.

1694
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:03,160
And.
That's not even the end of your

1695
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,320
heartbreak, because before you
die, you lose a child.

1696
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:08,840
You lose your child and then and
then your.

1697
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,200
Child.
Yeah, yeah.

1698
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:12,720
Your other child dies.
Awesome.

1699
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,200
Yeah.
So yeah.

1700
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:17,720
So it's just, you know, I, I
hate to say it, it's it's it's

1701
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:21,840
like Brian paid for his
happiness in the end.

1702
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:25,600
Yeah, He really did.
He paid the ultimate price.

1703
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,120
Yeah.
Like he it's almost like he sold

1704
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:31,600
his soul for a certain amount of
time and then it the IT came to

1705
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,840
get you came to collect, right?
Like this man?

1706
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:41,800
Which sucks, but but then OK, so
so during all of this, you know,

1707
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,560
like we said, Mertha leaves them
alone.

1708
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:49,280
He basically tells Brian I'm
going hunting and yeah, I'm

1709
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:50,880
going to be gone till the
morning time.

1710
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,000
I need you to handle your
business while I'm gone.

1711
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:57,840
Because it's your wedding.
Night Boo like Mertha is not

1712
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:02,240
subtle in the least, but OK, so
we get the we get the, you know,

1713
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:05,520
extended love making scene that
y'all keep complaining about.

1714
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,840
Which fucking?
I wasn't as complaining about

1715
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:10,000
this one.
I thought this one was really

1716
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:13,880
hot because I knew that, you
know, some person was going to

1717
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,640
walk into the abandoned church
after they snuck away.

1718
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:20,040
Obviously, you know, I thought
they it was beautiful.

1719
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,560
It was very, very, you know,
romantic.

1720
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,480
And then afterwards, you know,
they're sitting outside.

1721
01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:29,480
They're, they're giving each
other these pledges about their

1722
01:37:29,480 --> 01:37:31,960
love.
And then Brian looks panicked.

1723
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:33,960
And I was like, did they find
them?

1724
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,680
This is what I was thinking,
like, Oh my God, did they get

1725
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:40,160
found?
But no, you see all the cross in

1726
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:43,480
the distance, the fiery crosses
are being in it.

1727
01:37:44,440 --> 01:37:48,800
And it's to signal the clans,
you know, coming together for

1728
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:53,280
the Jacobite rebellion.
And Brian says I have to go to

1729
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:57,520
to refuse the call is tantamount
to being a traitor, like the

1730
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:03,960
death sentence.
And he says, but if if I go, you

1731
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,680
know, he's looking at Ellen
like, OK, if I go, I can't.

1732
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:08,840
I'm not, I'm not taking you
because it'll be dangerous.

1733
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,000
And Ellen was like, I am your
wife.

1734
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,400
We will face this together.
And I was.

1735
01:38:14,440 --> 01:38:19,360
Like, OK, so that tells me the
season 2 is going to be dealing

1736
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,680
with the first Jacobite
rebellion.

1737
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:26,480
And I did see, I think that same
interview with Diana Gabaldon, I

1738
01:38:26,480 --> 01:38:30,000
think she did confirm that there
is going to be a lot of

1739
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,800
historical stuff in season 2.
They will be dealing with the

1740
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:37,040
first rebellion.
So we will get a a lot of that.

1741
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:41,480
We will get some more history
lessons and we'll see how Brian

1742
01:38:41,480 --> 01:38:46,160
and Ellen face this because
right now, like Lord Lovett

1743
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,720
doesn't even know Brian has left
and.

1744
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,560
And and what happened?
He don't know nothing about

1745
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:52,200
Brian.
Nothing.

1746
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:54,720
No, no, nothing about Brian
because he's too busy trying to

1747
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,320
get his wife, his wife and child
back, right?

1748
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:02,800
But so you have them staying in
this little Hobbit house.

1749
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,360
They have no money.
They have no land, no titles.

1750
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:10,440
No, no, nothing.
Like Ellen literally left with

1751
01:39:10,440 --> 01:39:13,200
the clothes on her back and a
small bag full of food.

1752
01:39:13,480 --> 01:39:17,640
That was it.
And I, you know, that's what she

1753
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,040
was telling Colin.
She was like, let me go prepare

1754
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,040
for my future.
Because she knew what she was

1755
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,200
leaving behind.
She knew she was leaving behind

1756
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:30,400
her luxury, her comfort, you
know?

1757
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:34,960
But she was like, OK, right,
This is more important.

1758
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:40,960
Which is beautiful and scary at
the same time.

1759
01:39:41,480 --> 01:39:43,280
Yeah.
Oh yeah, that's very scary.

1760
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:47,280
So much love for a person that
you are willing to leave

1761
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,760
everything and everyone behind
and be like, OK, you know what

1762
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,720
if we got to sleep in this hole
in the wall house with no

1763
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,200
furniture and sleep on the
floor, As long as we're

1764
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,800
together, I'm good.
I mean, I'm very lucky.

1765
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,840
Yeah, I mean, and, and we know
that changes later on because of

1766
01:40:04,440 --> 01:40:07,360
somewhere he's able to get some
land.

1767
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:12,320
And he builds Brock literally by
hand, his own hands.

1768
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:14,520
That's one of the things that
Jamie always says.

1769
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:16,760
And that's something that he
also tells Brianna.

1770
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,280
He was like, I built it by
myself, brick by brick.

1771
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,240
I built it for her.
So.

1772
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,000
And I know Dina.
I know it's like me.

1773
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:33,720
A house and we my house.
But it's like you love it, but

1774
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,680
at the same time, you know that
it's limited.

1775
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:39,280
Yeah.
Yeah.

1776
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:45,520
But I, you know, I, I absolutely
loved this first season.

1777
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,760
Actually, it surpassed my
expectations.

1778
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,480
It really did.
Because I went in like I don't

1779
01:40:54,480 --> 01:40:56,120
want to.
I don't want to say I went in

1780
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:59,320
not expecting much because of
who the showrunners and the

1781
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,120
writers are.
I was like, OK, they're familiar

1782
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,840
with Outlander.
They've done eight seasons of

1783
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:09,040
the original show.
They know what this story is and

1784
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:10,920
what it what it's going to mean
to the fans.

1785
01:41:11,480 --> 01:41:14,680
So I won't say that I had a low
bar, but I was just kind of

1786
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:18,560
like, OK, if it if it matches
Outlander, I'm cool.

1787
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:23,480
But I feel like it, it's really
giving me first season Outlander

1788
01:41:23,480 --> 01:41:26,240
vibes.
Like the bar, they raised the

1789
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,960
bar so much for these stories
and these characters.

1790
01:41:29,480 --> 01:41:33,480
And I just need to know when
season 2 is coming out.

1791
01:41:33,480 --> 01:41:37,560
I know they're still filming.
I think I saw an, I saw an, I

1792
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:41,760
saw another interview with
Hermione and Jeremy, that's

1793
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,560
Henry and Julia.
And he mentioned that they were

1794
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,520
still filming.
But I, I just need to know.

1795
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,120
I need to know.
I know we're getting an

1796
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,200
Outlander in the early part of
2026.

1797
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,680
So we only have a few months.
I need to know when this show is

1798
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:56,520
coming back.
Like don't, please.

1799
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:58,160
Don't make me wait two or three
years, please.

1800
01:41:58,480 --> 01:41:59,760
Stop.
Just no.

1801
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:04,280
Oh, no, no.
I mean, I mean this show now.

1802
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:08,160
I think with this show they're
gonna put them out faster so

1803
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:10,680
people don't lose interest
because there aren't any books.

1804
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:12,280
Yeah.
Right.

1805
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,240
I guess different ways,
Outlander 'cause she had books

1806
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,120
coming out, it was more source
material happening.

1807
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,280
So they're like potentially we
could get through all this

1808
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:24,080
source material, but with this
they got to, they got to put

1809
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:28,720
these out because otherwise I'm.
I know, I know.

1810
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,720
Now she did mention in the same
interview that I read that she

1811
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:38,760
is hoping for next year.
As far as book 10, she said she

1812
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,000
can't say because, you know,
they, they got to go through,

1813
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:43,840
you know, they got to read
everything, they got to do

1814
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:45,640
editing, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, all this stuff.

1815
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,640
But she did mention that and
that's the first time that I've

1816
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:53,840
actually seen her say anything
having to do with the date.

1817
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:58,960
So she said hopefully next year.
I would assume it's probably

1818
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:02,360
going to be the end of next year
if it does come out next year.

1819
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,880
But at least we know we have
that story coming.

1820
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:08,920
She is still writing the prequel
book.

1821
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:12,520
And I just found out that her
stories for Brian and Ellen is

1822
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:14,600
the they're supposed to be a
trilogy.

1823
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:19,520
It's supposed to be 3 books now.
She said depending on what she

1824
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:22,720
ends up writing, it could end up
being just a duology.

1825
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,320
She did say that some of the
ideas they have put in the show

1826
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,800
for Brian and for Brian and
Ellen were things that she

1827
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:32,480
didn't think of, that she was
like, oh actually that kind of

1828
01:43:32,480 --> 01:43:34,560
works.
So she may actually put those in

1829
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:39,160
the prequel, but you go to her
Facebook page and her website,

1830
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,640
she does these.
She releases these little

1831
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:46,400
snippets of her books every
couple of weeks or so.

1832
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:52,000
She has started posting snippets
from her Brian and Ellen

1833
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:55,720
prequel.
So there is the scene where the

1834
01:43:55,720 --> 01:44:00,480
most recent one she released was
the scene where Ellen and Ned

1835
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:05,560
find Red Jacob dead and and the
conversation that happens after

1836
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:07,200
that.
Because I don't know if you guys

1837
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,000
realize what happened in the
show.

1838
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,560
He basically died on top of the
maidservant.

1839
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,880
So there's a little bit more
detail to that in the snippet

1840
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:18,440
that she posted a couple of
weeks ago.

1841
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:22,560
But if you should be so inclined
to, you know, just see kind of

1842
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:28,200
where she's at, She has posted
some some very fun snippets from

1843
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:32,840
book 10 that that I love because
they're with characters and

1844
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:36,720
situations that I was hoping
would happen in book 10, like

1845
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:39,760
characters getting together or
meeting and that sort of thing.

1846
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:43,880
And I'm just like, OK, please
give me this book now because I

1847
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:45,760
the the snippets are making me
excited.

1848
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,120
So, yeah.
But.

1849
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:49,440
I might need.
Some from the prequel.

1850
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:53,160
Start back reading the books.
I mean look y'all just tell me

1851
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:56,400
when y'all want to start and I I
will start over from the

1852
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,600
beginning with you guys.
Well, I'm not starting from the.

1853
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:01,560
Beginning well, where you.
Want to start?

1854
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,720
I think I was on 4.
Wherever you want to start.

1855
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,040
I'll start with you.
I'll start with you.

1856
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:12,200
So yeah, but how, how are you
guys feeling about the first

1857
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,200
season?
Absolutely.

1858
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:19,280
Left it, yeah.
Because if I feel this

1859
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,200
passionate about the different
things in it and I I've truly

1860
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:23,960
enjoyed it.
Yeah, that's true.

1861
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,720
The point?
Yeah, Yeah.

1862
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:28,520
A good point.
Nope.

1863
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:32,560
I agree with you that like Guy
I, I fallen in love with these

1864
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,400
characters.
I fallen further in love with

1865
01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:40,280
Murtha, who I already thought.
Me too, so I just.

1866
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,120
Such a sweetheart.
Yeah.

1867
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:45,600
And I loved him even when he was
grumpy old Murtha, 'cause I, you

1868
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:49,320
know, his journey with Claire
and, you know, helping Claire

1869
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:52,040
all that time.
So like to see him as a young

1870
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:56,320
man and it's just been great.
And then I, you know, I just

1871
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,480
like seeing all the young
characters, all the young folks

1872
01:45:59,480 --> 01:46:02,560
and.
And Julian Henry and Dougal,

1873
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:04,080
yeah.
OK, Dougal.

1874
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,680
Dougal, Dougal and.
Brian baby, those are my top

1875
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:11,080
picks for the for the season.
And then there's characters are

1876
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:17,640
just, you know, my heart goes
out to Malcolm Grant, you know,

1877
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:19,920
for sure.
Sorry, you know.

1878
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:23,160
Sorry to that man.
Yeah, I.

1879
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:27,000
Know.
You had to be our sacrifice, so

1880
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:28,800
you know.
For our happiness.

1881
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,280
Yeah, for the happiness of
everyone.

1882
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,680
Yeah.
But that kind of that, that

1883
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:38,800
probably does explain where
Jamie got that that middle name

1884
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:42,600
from because they both felt
guilty about it, you know?

1885
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,240
Yeah, I.
Mean what you gonna do?

1886
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:46,560
True love was calling.
Yeah.

1887
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:50,720
So, you know, it's hard.
Yeah.

1888
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:58,080
And you know, the, the the real
MVP, too, is Brian's mom because

1889
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:02,360
she has to sit there with Lord.
Love it, love it.

1890
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,280
Oh, girl.
Have you been dealing with him

1891
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:06,800
for years?
Yeah.

1892
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:12,440
But what I do love about like
how Julia, you know, hey, play

1893
01:47:12,440 --> 01:47:15,240
stupid, do this thing so you'll
be safe.

1894
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:19,240
And I like the Davina's like OK,
you right, and she plays the

1895
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:24,000
game how she's supposed to and
that she's not being dumb.

1896
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:27,320
You know, I do like that.
Yeah, 'cause I, but I also love,

1897
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:32,160
I also love the fact that even
before Julia came up with that

1898
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:36,000
plan, she was like, how many
times have you saved my son's

1899
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:38,120
life?
If, if I have to sacrifice my

1900
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:41,600
life to make sure you get safe,
I will do it because I owe you.

1901
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,480
I love that too.
Because if you think about where

1902
01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:48,560
we were half a half a season
ago, people like this woman

1903
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:49,880
needs to die.
She's about to kill your baby.

1904
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,360
And get an exercise.
Yeah, that's true.

1905
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:52,800
She's.
Jealous.

1906
01:47:54,360 --> 01:48:00,240
Yeah, but I mean, I love the
interaction that we've seen of

1907
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:04,400
Claire and Jamie's parents kind
of intermingling and and the

1908
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:08,080
friendships that they've built.
And I really hope that we are

1909
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:11,480
able to see a little bit more of
that in the next season.

1910
01:48:11,480 --> 01:48:14,200
I don't know how likely that's
going to be, especially

1911
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:17,880
considering we really don't know
where Henry and Julie are going

1912
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,640
to end up.
But I hope that there is

1913
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:24,600
something there that kind of,
you know, brings them back

1914
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:27,440
together.
That would be nice Before, you

1915
01:48:27,440 --> 01:48:31,000
know, all hell breaks loose and
we start losing people.

1916
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:35,000
But I, I, I will say this, I
don't know how many seasons this

1917
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:39,520
show is planning to go.
I don't know if I want to watch

1918
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:43,160
it to the point where Julia
dies, where Ellen dies.

1919
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:46,440
I don't know if I would.
I don't know.

1920
01:48:46,480 --> 01:48:49,720
I I would like to see a little
Jamie, but I, I don't.

1921
01:48:50,480 --> 01:48:52,840
Yeah, I mean, I could.
I could be good up to Jamie,

1922
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:55,400
like being born.
Yeah.

1923
01:48:55,440 --> 01:48:58,320
Yeah, It's it's Jamie.
You know, I just, oh, look,

1924
01:48:58,440 --> 01:49:00,640
little Jamie.
But yeah, I don't want to see

1925
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:02,680
her die.
Yeah, no.

1926
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:05,760
And I don't want to see his
grief or Merta's grief.

1927
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:08,840
Oh, no.
And you know what?

1928
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,040
And that could be the reason
he's grumpy.

1929
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:12,480
Here we go.
I forget about that.

1930
01:49:13,440 --> 01:49:14,840
That's it.
Could be.

1931
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:20,640
Which is even sadder then even
now, because not only have you

1932
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,840
been pining after her, but now
she's gone, so you can't even

1933
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,360
have that.
You see somebody else's to

1934
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:28,440
mourn.
Yeah.

1935
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:30,400
So that's it right there.
That's it.

1936
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:35,120
Yeah, Yeah.
But OK, so as mentioned,

1937
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:39,320
Outlander, the main show is
coming back early 2026.

1938
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,560
I hope they mean early when they
say early.

1939
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:47,880
So like you mean January,
February, March, one of those

1940
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:51,640
three months that's early.
I need a yeah, yeah.

1941
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:55,320
Play games with us and then
let's see.

1942
01:49:55,720 --> 01:50:00,240
We don't know about Book 10 yet.
If I hear anything, you know,

1943
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:04,880
we'll, we'll say something.
We have conjuration coming up in

1944
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:09,520
next next month.
In a month exactly almost.

1945
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:13,800
Almost exactly a month, November
14th through 16th is going to be

1946
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:17,760
at the Sonesta Gwinnett Place.
All three of us will be there

1947
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:22,200
along with Anthony and Mike.
We will all be doing panels.

1948
01:50:23,440 --> 01:50:27,920
Dina will be joining us on some
of our panels, including our two

1949
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,040
Outlander panels.
We will be talking about the

1950
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:34,680
main show and Blood of My Blood.
More details will be posted on

1951
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,120
our website.
Once that is available.

1952
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,720
The schedule should be out
probably within the next couple

1953
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:43,960
of weeks.
Dina will also be doing some

1954
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:47,440
game shows at Conjuration with
some of our other friends and

1955
01:50:47,440 --> 01:50:50,640
those things are always fun.
So if you happen to be in

1956
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:54,000
Atlanta November 14th through
16th and you're looking for some

1957
01:50:54,000 --> 01:51:00,360
fun, nerdy type of stuff to do,
go to conjurationcon.com and

1958
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,480
look it up.
It is a fantasy based

1959
01:51:03,440 --> 01:51:07,600
convention, fan convention.
They have a lot of fun things.

1960
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:10,920
They have performers, they have
vendors.

1961
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:15,480
We do fan panels, like we say,
game shows, live performances,

1962
01:51:15,480 --> 01:51:19,480
and there will be a wicked
themed ball this year.

1963
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:23,160
So we're looking forward to
that.

1964
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:28,000
But you guys have any final
thoughts before we close out for

1965
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:34,600
Season 1 of Blood of My Blood?
I need people to hurry up and

1966
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,040
move out the way and get where
they're going and stop talking,

1967
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:41,560
hugging and kissing and, you
know, just go because you're

1968
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:43,480
wasting time.
You.

1969
01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:45,680
Didn't know if they were going
to see each other again.

1970
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:51,120
So, you know, they, they had to
get their goodbyes in because

1971
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:53,960
now, I mean, if you think about
it, technically speaking, Brian

1972
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:57,200
and Ellen are on the run.
Yes, that is true.

1973
01:51:57,800 --> 01:51:59,640
But they.
Feel like they knew they was

1974
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:02,400
going to be on the run, so they
could have said by like 30

1975
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:06,000
minutes ahead of time and then
it was like when it was time to

1976
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,840
run, you know?
Yeah, maybe if they had done

1977
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:10,880
that, they wouldn't have run
into Malcolm Grant, but that

1978
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:12,280
would have.
But then that would have been a

1979
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:15,280
whole different problem because
Malcolm would have gone after

1980
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:18,080
them.
So maybe it worked out the way

1981
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:20,480
it was supposed to or.
But.

1982
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,320
I don't know.
Would he have gone after her by

1983
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:26,040
herself if he hadn't realized
that there was a man involved?

1984
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,520
Oh, yeah, I think yeah, because.
Because the spike was still to

1985
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:32,160
him.
Like you still stood me up on my

1986
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,760
wedding day.
Yeah, I think that.

1987
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:38,040
I think if he didn't, if his
uncle went away and wasn't

1988
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:39,560
backing him up, I don't think he
would.

1989
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:42,880
I mean, we'll go look for her, I
think.

1990
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:48,280
But I think it's until he said
something about revenge, he

1991
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:50,160
probably was just like, no,
she's still mine.

1992
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:52,240
I'm going to find her, right?
Right.

1993
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,840
He may have changed her mind.
I can convince her, yeah.

1994
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:59,560
When he was talking to column,
he was like, as soon as Mr. Bug

1995
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:02,720
brings my bladier back, there's
going to be hell to pay.

1996
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,440
So yeah, no, he was.
He was going after somebody.

1997
01:53:05,440 --> 01:53:08,400
He was just waiting for Henry to
come back because of course he

1998
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:09,800
wasn't going to get his hands
dirty.

1999
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:11,520
That's what Henry and Mr. Bugger
for.

2000
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:13,960
Yeah.
So yeah.

2001
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,360
Damn, Mr. Bob.
Michelle, you got any final

2002
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,560
thoughts?
Has rest in peace mouth?

2003
01:53:22,480 --> 01:53:26,640
Yeah, just rest in peace.
I do feel bad about that.

2004
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:29,320
I mean, he was, I mean, he I'm
sorry, everyone.

2005
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,920
He was a huge sacrifice.
He was lied to.

2006
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:34,600
He was.
He was.

2007
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:38,280
It was just been better if he
just didn't care about her.

2008
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:40,600
And he was.
And even the harsh things he

2009
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:44,720
said when they ran into.
But that was just from being

2010
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:45,880
hurt.
Yeah.

2011
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,120
And drunk.
You know what I'm saying?

2012
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:49,840
It was just being hurt and hyped
up.

2013
01:53:50,480 --> 01:53:52,320
Yep, hurt, hyped up.
And.

2014
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:58,400
Drunk so 'cause even then he was
like, oh, you came back to me.

2015
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:02,640
Yay, I was.
Like no, look at the way she's

2016
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:04,760
dressed.
She has a bonnet over her head.

2017
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:05,520
She is not.
Coming.

2018
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:09,640
But he does, he does he yeah, he
he has blinders on with her.

2019
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,480
Yeah.
So the uncle said.

2020
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:15,760
Yeah.
The under spell, Yeah.

2021
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:17,200
So that's why that's another
ending.

2022
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,440
Get out from under the spell of
these women.

2023
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,360
Or you gonna end up dead.
Are you gonna end up dead?

2024
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:26,400
And on that note, that is it for
our show.

2025
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:30,720
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2026
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:33,560
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2027
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:35,320
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2028
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,160
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2029
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:39,880
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2030
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,800
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2031
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:44,760
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