Outlander: Blood of My Blood (Season 1 Episode 6) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #375

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Michelle and Dina and we
are discussing episode 6 of

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Outlander, Blood of My Blood and
Good googly Moogly.

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This episode I Dina was
messaging me back and forth with

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this episode and she was like I
hate these women Oh my God.

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It was like watching a 1700s
version of The Handmaid's Tale,

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which is where they get a lot of
this stuff from in Handmaid's

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Tale.
But it's just like, what am I

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watching, right?
OK, so I'm gonna preface this

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episode by saying we had a lot
to talk about in regards to Miss

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Davina Porter because we've been
talking about her character and

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and kind of the the behavior
that she has displayed against

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Ellen over the last couple of
episodes.

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And we've really been
complaining.

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Like we need to know the story.
We need to know exactly what

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happened between her and Lord
Lovett.

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Well, I guess the showrunners,
we got it.

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Everybody was thinking that
because we got in in this

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episode.
And one of the things I think

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that I appreciate about this
episode is that it really does

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show us how complex it was to be
a woman in the 1700s.

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Because going back to our
previous conversation about like

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Jacosta and Ellen and then
thinking about Davina and the

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way that she's been with Julia,
there's never just a clear cut

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reason for their behavior, for
the things that they do and the

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decisions that they make.
And I think this episode kind of

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spells it out.
So I don't know if perfectly is

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the word I want to use, but it's
like it makes you really look at

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this character, you know?
So the episode starts out with

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Julia finding out that her
waters have broken.

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She is in labor.
We do get her being able to talk

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to Brian.
This is the first time that

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she's really had a chance to see
him since he left for Beltane.

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And she's able to tell him,
look, this is not your father's

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child.
This is just something I had to

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say in order to protect the life
of my baby.

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She was like, you know, I think,
you know, one of the things

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about Julia in the show is we
see that she does have a lot of

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respect for Brian.
And again, that is one of those

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friendships that are that is
coming out of the show that I

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was not expecting, but I'm glad
to see it.

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So I'm glad she had a chance to
clear the air with him so that

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he's not angry with her.
And now, you know, we move on to

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the birthing part.
And, you know, he tells her he

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was like, well, I'm glad you.
I'm glad you told me this.

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You need to be prepared for when
you go into confinement.

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She's like confinement and I'm
sitting here like.

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Confinement.
Me too.

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I was like, what does that mean?
What is confinement?

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What are we doing?
It's about to happen.

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Wait, wait, wait.
Yeah.

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I never heard about confinement
when the one was bringing back

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in the day.
No, yeah, no, that's just

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literally because like even in
like stuff like even, well, even

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be before way, way before this,
like that's what they used to

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do.
They used to just make them stay

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away because they, well, first
of all, they're all wide open

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stuff is, you know, you know,
there's they're bleeding.

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It's just all kinds of, you
know, gross stuff that happens

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with pregnancy.
And so they made the women stay

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away for a long time.
But it's typically women who are

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able to be confined because I'm
sure the women who didn't have

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the opportunity to have like
workers and people to take care

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of their household probably
couldn't do this.

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But for the most part, back in
the day, like in a lot of the

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old school movies and stuff,
women, they would they would

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show them always having to be
like separated from the people

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because they to a certain
degree, they were unclean and

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men.
They didn't need to be around

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men and just all this, you know.
Yeah.

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I mean, it was like that kind of
thing.

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And so like even for like the
like, even for like people like,

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like say, for instance, in like
Game of Thrones or whatever,

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they would have done that with
them with a pregnant woman, they

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typically would have just had
them away from the general

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public for a while until their
healing was getting better and

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stuff like that.
Typically they would be away.

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And because they, I mean,
everything related to women's

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bodies and giving birth and
periods, all that stuff has just

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become, it's unclean and it's
all this.

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So they kind of had them.
And back then, it really was

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because there was no germ
control, no bacteria, you know?

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No, she was giving birth on Hey,
I'm done.

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Yeah, on a, on a sheet, on a.
On a sheet, baby.

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Yeah.
OK.

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So, yeah, so they get ready to
do this, this confinement thing.

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And it's like when she first
walks into the room again, of

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course you have Miss Miss Porter
telling, you know, the lair.

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Oh, she's about to have baby.
He was like, I don't want to

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hear.
That's too early.

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She was like, she's about to
have this baby.

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Like, I know it's too early
because I told your ass she was

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told you.
I told you that she was pregnant

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with somebody else's child.
Right.

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Right.
But you.

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Want me to show it back up
there?

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Stop it like I can't.
Do so like so.

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Anyway, so we see her going into
this room and they kind of sort

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of have it laid out.
And then all of a sudden you see

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this like large group of women
come in and at first they're

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like, oh, we're help you, we're
here to help you deliver the

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child.
This is a blessing event, blah,

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blah, blah, blah, blah.
They're being all nice to her

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and everything.
And I don't know, something

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about it just wasn't sitting
right in my soul.

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Yeah, all of a sudden it turned
into, what was that, The

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Crucible?
So quick, so quick.

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And it was because of, again,
Miss, Miss Porter.

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Now, the interesting thing about
this episode is we do get

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flashbacks into Miss Porter's
background and into her own

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experience as a single mother,
as a birthing mother.

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And, you know, we get to see
kind of what happened.

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So we know for a fact that she
was forced, that is, that has

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that question has been
definitively answered now,

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because we do see a flashback of
her younger self.

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She doesn't look like she was
young young, but she probably

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was like maybe around 1819.
I would guess around the age or

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she could be a little bit
younger, but she looks older.

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They do make them look a little
bit older in the show.

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And she's just in Lord Lovitz
chambers.

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He's in the bed.
She's like stuck in the

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fireplace over there.
And of course he's making these

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overtures to her.
He even sounds gross trying to

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flirt like just.
Yeah, it's just, it's just

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disgusting.
So he calls her over to the bed

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and, you know, he's being very
obvious that he wants her to get

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in bed with him.
And she's like, but what about

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my chores?
What about, you know, stocking

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the fire and blah, blah, blah.
She's, you know, she's trying to

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put them off and he basically
gives her the look and he he

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says come here, come here.
I said come here.

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So he's basically telling her
she has no choice.

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Now when he gets her to the bed
and she like gets ready to climb

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over him.
This is very swift, is very

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fast, OK.
He's literally like forces

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himself in her right then and
there and he rapes her now.

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I don't even know.
I don't even know how I want to

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start this conversation.
Like I somewhere.

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You just you just felt bad for
you all the instance of what is

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happening.
It was so sudden, not just even

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the the 4th part 'cause we you
could kind of see that's where

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it was going.
But this is a girl who probably

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had no clue because again, they
also don't do a lot of sex

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education, Batman, as far as
telling people what to expect,

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whatever.
And even if they did, they

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probably wouldn't have told her
that particular way.

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But it was like, you did feel
very much violated by what

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happened to her.
But then the complicated stuff

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comes after that because the
next flashback that we see of

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her, she's already very
pregnant.

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He corners her in the hallway to
try to have his way with her

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again, and she's trying to put
him off.

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No, my look, my lair.
And I'm pregnant.

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He was like, that's the best
time to do it.

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I don't have to, you know, don't
have to worry about any more

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bastards.
Hi, Apollo.

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And then he tells her he's like,
I've, I've seen you.

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I see what you're doing.
You're in here all along.

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You've been looking at me.
You want me?

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Tell me you want this.
And it's like her face takes on

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so many different emotions at
this point because at, on the,

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on the first glance, she's
horrified.

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She doesn't want this to happen.
She does look a little scared.

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But then when he says this to
her, it's almost like something

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changes in her demeanor.
And I don't know if it's just

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that she's thinking, OK, I need
to protect myself.

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I need to protect this baby.
And if it also could be, and

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this is going to, it could be
that when he said that, she was

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probably like, OK, I do.
But I don't think it was in the

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way that he was thinking.
You know what I'm saying?

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One thing about the women in
this time, and we've talked

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about it, they have a lot of
complications when it comes to

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them, their status, their
everything.

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This is a young girl who has
already been ruined.

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Chances are her reputation isn't
tatters.

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She has lost any prospect of
finding a decent husband, you

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know, And I feel like at this
point when he says that to her,

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I don't think at at any point
she really wanted him or she

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wanted this.
But maybe at that point she

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changed her mind because she
realized this is probably the

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only way she's going to get
that.

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You know, she's going to get any
semblance of respect back on her

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name, which is so fucked up
because of the situation that

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she's in.
But unfortunately, this is what

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the women of the time have to
deal with.

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Yeah.
Like, and it's so sad seeing

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that realization kind of comes
her because she's like, OK, you

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know what?
I really don't want this, but if

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it will protect me, if it will
protect my child, then yes.

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And she tells him, yes, I do
want this, you know what I'm

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saying?
And maybe she's thinking, OK,

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well, he's already ruined me.
Maybe he'll marry me, make me

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the lady of the house.
My child won't be a bastard.

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People won't think I'm out here
just seducing the layered and

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that sort of thing.
It pissed me off but at the same

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time I was like OK I get it.
Yeah, I mean, it's very similar

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to what Julia did, you know,
like, you know, and it also just

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pisses me off that everything
men have 0 accountability.

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It is always oh, she seduced me.
So you didn't have a choice.

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You couldn't resist.
Because that's the thing that's

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so annoying.
It's like.

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And unfortunately that comes
with obviously patriarchy is

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where even women are brainwashed
and convinced that this force of

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women is so strong that we just
control everything.

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My we ain't got no power.
We not strong.

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We can't own property.
We can't do none of these things

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that men can do.
Men are stronger than us.

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They'll whoop us, they'll beat
us, whatever still is our rape

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us and rape us.
But we got all this power.

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We control everything about them
when it comes to them taking

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their pleasures out on us.
And so that's just so

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frustrating.
And it, and, and the other thing

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about this, as we see her kind
of go through her flashbacks as,

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as this stuff is going on with
Julia and we'll talk about the

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stuff with Julia too.
But it's like, you see, as she

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gets older and as things change,
there's a, there's a

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conversation that he has with
her where I think she's asked

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like, what did you expect me to
marry you or something like

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that?
And it's the look of heartbreak

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on her face, not because she was
ever in love with this man, but

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because she's like, that would
have been a way for me to get my

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respect back.
And the fact that he just kind

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of throws it in her face, like,
Oh no, what would I do that for?

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Even after the stuff.
So they keep mentioning a Miss

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Amelia and I feel like that Miss
Amelia might be the noble woman

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that he was accused of
kidnapping raping.

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Yeah, no, she totally was.
Because they talk about that

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Davina worked for her.
And then when she, when, when

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the, when her Handmaid's Tale
grouping was, you know, cursing

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her to hell, They were basically
like, why would he want you when

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he could have your mistress
'cause she's the real noble

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woman.
She's the one who has, you know,

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but why would he?
Why would he do this to you on

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purpose?
It's your fault.

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You're the devil.
Like, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.
But it was, it was like watching

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this and then watching what
she's going through because

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again, this, this, all this
stuff is taking place while

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Julia's getting ready to give
birth.

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And like we mentioned, the women
came in, Oh, you're about to

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have the Lairds baby da, da, da,
da, da, because the Laird is

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apparently been going around
telling people that she's about

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to give birth to the future king
of Scotland.

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Oh my gosh.
So they're, they're treating her

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like this.
And then when Miss Porter makes

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it known that, oh, this ain't,
this ain't even his baby, like I

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think there, there's a, there's
a oh, yeah, there, here's the

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same.
She's in there tending to his

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fires and he's asleep and he's
calling Julia's name and she

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looks really upset and really
jealous.

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And again, it's one of those
things where, yes, this man did

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this to you, but this still was
probably your only way to get

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out of people one talking about
you, saying things about you.

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The whole thing about your son
being a bastard.

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Like if he had done the quote UN
quote right thing and married

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her, that could have made-up for
some of that as far as she's

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concerned.
Again, right?

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No, it wouldn't really.
But 1700s?

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In her mind, yeah.
Right, 1700s in her, in her mind

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at least, her reputation would
be intact, her son's legitimacy

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would be intact, that sort of
thing.

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So all the stuff that she's been
doing up to this point, I can

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kind of understand her, her
reasoning now.

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Like, again, you're trying to
protect your position, You're

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trying to protect your son's
position.

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And then here comes this woman
that you already know was

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pregnant by somebody else and
she's pawning off her child as

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as the lairds and now he's
talking about marrying Julia.

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Oh, go stand for the go stand
for the reverence.

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So we can we can get married
because this child is not going

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to be born a bastard.
This child is going to be born

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in wedlock.
And the look of outrage on her

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face.
I was like, you know?

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What?
Also, how dumb is that?

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The baby's in there.
So.

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Oh yeah.
Oh, we were married when the

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baby was born.
That's how they mattered.

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What?
What?

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They love changing the rules,
don't they?

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There's so many things about the
way that they do things back

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then that are just so
problematic.

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So the fact that you have been,
the fact that you have been here

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in this house taking care of
this man who raped you, who got

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a child on you, but you have
still been loyal.

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You have been taking care of
this man.

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And and the really horrible
thing about this is, like you

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said, she probably feels like it
was her fault.

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I mean, she does say something
to that effect when she's

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talking about sin.
This is from Julia Sin.

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And Julia was like, what was
your sin?

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She was like, I was young and I
was beautiful and I let myself

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be alone in the room with him.
So it was my fault.

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She was probably taught that.
Oh yeah, just like she mother.

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Yeah, yeah, just like she told
Julia that same mess not oh, he

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shouldn't be touching you 'cause
you know, no, you don't put

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yourself.
It's almost like, you know,

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people telling girls now, just
like.

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Don't.
Wear oh, you can't wear this.

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Traps don't wear.
You know, yeah, don't you know,

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don't, don't be at this place
because, well, OK, but how about

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they just keep their hands on
these?

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Stuff that part.
That part, yeah, that part so

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but her, her tale is a tragic
tale.

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It is, but I still I was.
Cursing at her too.

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So she's her.
Tooth I was.

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Waiting teary about it though.
No, I'm not.

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That was that was rough.
It it it really was.

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Yeah.
I not imagine paying.

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We only got 2 times what you
know, imagine he just probably

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did that to her a lot, you know,
like he did.

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Yeah, but I would say this too,
I do feel like some of the looks

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that he's giving her, and even
in this episode, when you see

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him look at her, it's almost
like there's a small part of him

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that looks at her with guilt.
Very small.

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And it's like when you've
committed a crime to have the

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the the evidence walking around
you, you know what I'm saying?

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It's like it slaps you in the
face.

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And I think for a small smidget
of a second, he feels, you know,

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maybe some remorse.
And then it's it's like in a

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split second is gone.
Yeah.

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Because this is a woman who has
been loyal to you, who has been

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a a faithful servant, who is
never, apparently never told

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anybody about what happened
except for the fact that, you

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know, it, it happened.
Maybe not in the way that that

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it she should have been telling
people, but you know, she had to

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tell somebody who who her baby's
daddy was, right?

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Yeah, at some point.
Nobody's ever accused him of

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raping her except for people
within the family, You know what

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I'm saying?
Because you heard Jamie say

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something about it.
And then even in this episode,

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when Brian is talking to Julia
and she's telling him about what

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happened, he was like, OK, I
just have my one question.

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Did my father rape you?
Did he force you?

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I'm like, the fact that that is
the first question anybody asked

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when they find out that this
child is yours.

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Were you forced?
Yeah.

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That's it.
That's so much about your

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character, yeah, and about who
you are.

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But.
And then the fact that she's

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like, he didn't, you know, I'm
sure it made Brian feel the

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whole kind of way because he
knows.

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He also, because he knows, he
understands, because she told

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him she was like, look, I was
already pregnant when I got here

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and I was told very quickly what
the consequences of that would

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be.
I had to do what I needed to do

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to save my baby.
Yeah.

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And I think he understands that,
you know, and Even so, even more

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so at the end when she, you
know, when he's talking to Julia

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after she's had the baby and
he's talking about his mom.

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And she was like, no, you don't
understand.

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You are your mother's greatest
joy.

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Your mother has never regretted
you.

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You know, even with all of this
bullshit with, with Lord loving

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and everything, like she's never
regretted you.

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But it's at this part now.
I gotta Fast forward.

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I can't.
OK.

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I'm, I'm, I'm beginning of her
confinement and the ladies are

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in there.
And so that's, that's where I

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am.
And we were all good.

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We were all good at the 1st at
the beginning.

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Cause well, so The thing is, I
will say in this case, they

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actually was I when I, when they
thought, you know, he might have

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attacked her.
Because typically, even in those

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situations, we can be very harsh
to women who have been raped,

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right?
Especially back in those days.

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But they seem to be actually
like, it ain't your fault, you

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know, whatever.
But we going, we going to just

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thank God for this, this king
that you about to have.

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You know what?
I'm.

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Saying right.
And then someone, someone in the

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room said, you know what?
Nah, she can't.

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She can't have a baby in this,
this special light right here.

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No, we're not going to let this
happen.

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Yeah, I mean.
And that's when I got mad with

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Miss Porter.
I said, now, Miss Porter, now

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you being a real B right now,
right now, right now.

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And I understand the trauma you
went through, but you don't have

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to put me through your trauma.
Right.

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Like, why would you want
somebody else to go through

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that?
Right.

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Yeah, but she was mad because
she was mad.

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She didn't like this special
treatment here.

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She's sitting here looking.
I'm seeing her now.

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She looking like.
Yeah, she was in there.

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Hoeing.
Yeah, she was like, yeah, she

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went to him.
She's like Boo, we are nothing

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to like nothing.
We are necessary.

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She sort him out.
Yeah, yeah, just like you know.

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And I said, you know what?
You didn't have to do that,

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Heifer.
She didn't, but again, she's

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trying to protect her place.
And her son's place, I think it

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and you don't want to be honest
no, that wasn't that was right

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because.
I don't suffer and you about to

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get away with.
This shit, yeah, that was no

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that.
Was not about Brian or any of

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that.
And I didn't lie in my

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situation.
You are lying.

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Yeah.
Women.

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No, no, no.
What I'm saying because this was

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right after he had told her he
had planned to marry Julia.

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No.
But I'm saying, is she not

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thinking about her place and
right now all of her feelings?

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Yeah, women.
She is in play.

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Yeah.
She's hearing them doe over

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Julia and say all these things
about her baby and you know he's

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a so and so and we know, but it
doesn't matter because you

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haven't Bonnie Prince, whoever
the hell you haven't, and we

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excited the Lord has blessed
you.

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Oh, that would be so weird if
she hadn't feel Bonnie Prince

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Charlie right And.
OK, we can't go there.

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And then mark me in my head.
Mark me James.

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Mark me.
And then that's what was in her

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mind.
It wasn't even at this time, all

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that placement and all that,
that was out the window.

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Hers is I was traumatized for
real.

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You over there lying because I
know you lied.

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I knew you were pregnant
beforehand.

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And they treating you this way.
Oh no.

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And I've been nice to you and
I'm not quite sure my son.

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She been nice to her, no?
She did try to, she did help her

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in the beginning though, because
when he was all on her, she had

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that same thing happened to her.
So she was like, don't be in the

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room with him.
I'll.

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Give her that.
Stay behind me.

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Right, she did.
Try to warn her he tried to help

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her with the flowers.
I mean she was doing and telling

428
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her you not you can't have a
baby in this situation.

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I mean however you come in, you
act like you look better than me

430
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let's be honest.
Then you do seduce the layer.

431
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We already know you were with
child because I just tried to

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tell you to get rid of the
child.

433
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Yeah.
And then now I don't even know

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what's going on with you and my
son, because something's there,

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yes.
That part and my brother, she

436
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,680
said that out loud in front of
all the women.

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00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,880
I was like, oh, she just murky
in the waters.

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Like, yeah, she she was done.
She let it all out.

439
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,280
Yeah, that I do feel like she
was petty because once she knows

440
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that Brian, that wasn't Brian
Strike.

441
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You know your baby, right?
And she?

442
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First of all, all of that went
out the window.

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She don't know.
She been seeing them on each

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other and they have a secret and
they do have a secret and they

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went off, yes, running off.
That is.

446
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True, Oh no, she don't really
know what is happening here.

447
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But then when you you find out
that she was in that same

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00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,440
situation and they were like
literally like like crapping on

449
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,560
her.
No, this woman is not about to

450
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,360
have no fantastic magical birth.
Yeah.

451
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,800
When she's lying and Julia is
lying, she is lying.

452
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,520
Yeah and yeah.
But I love her commitment

453
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,320
through the pain.
You continue to lie, girl.

454
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,600
She could have survived the war
hunt and she would have been a

455
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,680
spy.
Listen, you didn't lay down

456
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,160
Julie.
Yeah.

457
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,160
Y'all are not about to do
anything to me or this baby.

458
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,000
My child, no, this is Simon
Lovett, This is Simon kept

459
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,320
calling.
The man name?

460
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,560
Oh no, I'm at the point they
threw her ass on the floor.

461
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,200
I'm done.
They threw.

462
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,920
On you don't deserve her hey
bed, hey Manger you don't

463
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,880
deserve.
Hey Manger, let me tell.

464
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,360
You you about to get on the
floor, honey, get on that floor.

465
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:30,240
These women in the 1700s, like
this whole because, because of

466
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,960
course, they started calling her
a witch.

467
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,400
And I was like, I was, I was
having, I was having Claire

468
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,960
flashbacks like, oh, here we go
with this again.

469
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,320
Like all the stuff that they
were doing and they were, they

470
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,960
were like really trying to
'cause this woman stress.

471
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,240
Yeah.
And this stress didn't.

472
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:54,440
Even kill her right Like it's
just craziness baby.

473
00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:02,600
I love Julie where she said if
y'all OK, if I'm not lying my

474
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:08,240
son becomes king Old all y'all
are dead, all y'all I'm coming

475
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,440
back for you.
What?

476
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,200
If I was in the room, I'll be
like, hey, what if she had a

477
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,400
point?
How many?

478
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,280
'Cause they superstitious.
They superstitious at this

479
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,040
point.
I think that's all I need.

480
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,000
I'll be like, I think we need to
stop.

481
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,600
Yeah.
And you know, what I said kind

482
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,840
of put me in the mind up too,
because all this stuff going on,

483
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600
it's after that point in like,
you know, in America where

484
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,400
they're doing the Salem witch
trials and all that stuff.

485
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,120
And it's, it is kind of shocking
that in the 1700s they were

486
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:37,120
still kind of doing Pagan stuff
over there anyway, especially

487
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:40,320
with I'm sure the knowledge of
the witch trials probably came

488
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,320
overseas and stuff like that.
But like all their mindsets

489
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,560
turned into basically like we're
talking about the Crucible.

490
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,600
It basically turned into Salem
witch trials.

491
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,680
As soon as they thought that she
was a hoe, right?

492
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,960
Like then it became, oh, you're
a witch.

493
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,080
You, you're a demon.
You possessed him and you have a

494
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,880
demon in you because you won't
admit that this ain't his kid.

495
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,000
And it's just like, it's so
crazy how people their minds

496
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,840
just flip flop like that.
You was literally praising me

497
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,640
and and and one. 2 seconds ago.
Oh, it's going to be beautiful.

498
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,920
Because pray for your child now
you're the devil.

499
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,800
Now we can go kill you, baby.
What right my excuse me did?

500
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,600
Did y'all not realize this is
still supposedly Lord love this

501
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,320
baby.
And then they said basically

502
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,120
they was like they didn't care
and they thought it would be

503
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,680
better for her baby if the baby
wasn't there because now she's a

504
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:37,600
poor what?
Let me tell you, can you tell?

505
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,320
Me what baby?
I was cussing.

506
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,400
I was too.
I was too.

507
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,720
And and like, like Michelle
said, I was still.

508
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,160
I was so mad at Davina because I
was like, I understand.

509
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,480
But then when you see the
flashbacks of what she went

510
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,840
through with her child, I was
like, why would you want another

511
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,000
woman to go through?
Right, and I like and I like how

512
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,800
they I like how they did that in
this episode where we're we're

513
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,880
at the same point.
We're getting her back story and

514
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,000
getting how literally it was the
same.

515
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,520
And now you could make the
choice of I continue in the path

516
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,080
that you went on or you make a
change because you started

517
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,520
because we would have had a
magical birth until you came in

518
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,560
and spoke up and said something.
And now I'm being treated the

519
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,280
same way you were treated.
You.

520
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,920
You can't be, you can't be the
same woman that raised Brian.

521
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:37,360
Right.
Right.

522
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,040
Right.
And I like how she mentioned

523
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,480
those things.
You like you, you, your son is

524
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,560
the way he is because of you.
So you going to like, let this

525
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,360
happen here?
You're going to let this happen

526
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,200
here.
Yeah, even though Julie, you are

527
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,600
lying though, but that's OK.
We going we going to believe me

528
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,240
that.
She wanted to protect her child

529
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,120
and I'm glad.
And she said it was.

530
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:02,720
Something that she could say to
reach Davina, because Davina was

531
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,160
like Miss Porter was like, I
don't care about you.

532
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,400
I don't care about this child,
whatever she was like when she

533
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,760
said, are you telling the truth?
Swear on your child's name.

534
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,880
She was like, I will swear on
everything in the world, she

535
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,960
said.
But she said, but if I have to

536
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,080
do that, go ahead and strike me
down now.

537
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,720
She said, cuz I do not want to
live in a world where God would

538
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,960
strike down an innocent child.
She says I will swell everything

539
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,240
but my child's life.
I will not do that.

540
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,760
And I think when that resonated
with Miss Porter because she was

541
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,240
like, OK, you know what, I had
to decide to do this.

542
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,680
I had to say that no matter what
I was going to do whatever for

543
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,320
my child.
And again, this, that kind of

544
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,160
that flashback to when she has
Brian and she's, you know, she's

545
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,520
cradling him and she's making
him a promise.

546
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,680
It's like everything that we
have seen her go through from

547
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,760
Lord Lovett and the rape all the
way up till now, just trying to

548
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,560
protect her child.
She understands that.

549
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,840
I mean, my goodness, she's
living with the man who raped

550
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,800
her.
She continues to to work for him

551
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,400
to make sure that her son has
what he's supposed to have.

552
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,360
Yeah.
And I'm glad she finally was

553
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,560
like, OK, look all y'all bitches
get the fuck out.

554
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,960
Yeah, we got.
There, well, 'cause I mean, they

555
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,280
cause for her.
The thing that's sad is even

556
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,720
worse that Davina, you know,
blurted all that out and did all

557
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,400
that.
What makes that worse is she

558
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,800
didn't have anybody to back like
to be there for her, so she was

559
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,200
just getting it from point.
Like her confinement was just

560
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,400
them spitting vitriol at her
about her being a whore the

561
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,200
whole time.
Like she didn't get none of

562
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,640
that.
All you having the Bonnie Prince

563
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,160
toilet, whatever feel.
It's just.

564
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,560
In my head, don't do it.
Don't do that.

565
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,840
It's very sad to me that it took
her so long to even have to like

566
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,520
dredge that up to, to have some
compassion for Julie because

567
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,520
this woman got kidnapped.
She got sold off.

568
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,560
She said she had, she had
another life.

569
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,320
And you know, notice your life
now, you know, so you know, this

570
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,520
ain't where she belongs.
So her being pregnant and

571
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,000
happened and possibly having a
husband out there, you just

572
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,960
don't let her suffer.
That's not her fault.

573
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,800
And then, you know, those women
were so nasty and horrible and

574
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,040
she had that like cussed them
out.

575
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,320
Like, no, this is my child.
Because what I've been through

576
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,400
is one thing.
But this right here, this is my

577
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,440
baby, you know?
And so it's just like, I just I

578
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,640
just wish she had had it more
clarity earlier on.

579
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,240
It shouldn't have took her so
long to get to that point where

580
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,280
she realized this is messed up.
But she's, she's a product of

581
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,880
the time.
Yeah, unfortunately, you know,

582
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,040
but these, these, when I said
these women.

583
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,200
And then oh, and let me just
tell you, OK, OK, Growing up in

584
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,760
the church all my life, parents
minister, whatever.

585
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,239
One of the things you don't do
is like in just anybody lay

586
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,520
hands on you and touch you
claiming they praying over you.

587
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,960
And when I say their energy.
And the.

588
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,719
Touching and I thought they was
doing to her.

589
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,080
I was like girl.
You.

590
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,000
Know get that evil life for you.
I I just you know, I'm not even

591
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,360
the I'm not even hardcore in in
the Church of Christian none of

592
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,320
that anymore.
But like I was feeling some kind

593
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,440
of way like girl, no spirits is
in the room.

594
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,239
You need to get that off.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause I was, oh,

595
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,920
child, I had me, I had
flashbacks and like stuff.

596
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,880
And I'm just like this.
Oh, this is nasty.

597
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,159
Yeah, yeah, I was it.
It was very hard to sit and

598
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:55,360
watch that scene because I was
just like, you know, people have

599
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,840
good intentions most of the
time, but.

600
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,840
They didn't.
Everybody, everybody don't need

601
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,320
to pray for everybody.
No, they don't.

602
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,680
You know, especially when.
You ain't looking at your own

603
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,160
stuff and you judging somebody
else's.

604
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,080
Stuff and you switched so
quickly.

605
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,240
Yeah.
She said one thing.

606
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,440
Right.
Oh, shame.

607
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,120
And you know, that made me think
of Game of Thrones.

608
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,920
It made terrible.
Yeah, I was like, here we go,

609
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,760
here we go.
OK, SEPTA.

610
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,440
Yeah.
What was her name?

611
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,080
SEPTA.
SEPTA Mordane.

612
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:33,640
Mordane.
Shane.

613
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,880
Shane.
Shane.

614
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:39,880
Yep.
But which?

615
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:43,440
Side note, I didn't know that
was the same person from Ted

616
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,840
Lasso, 'cause I absolutely love
her.

617
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,240
Hannah Wattington.
Yeah.

618
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,640
Right.
And I was like, that's her.

619
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,480
I didn't like her a long time
ago.

620
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,760
OK, my bad.
Yeah, but.

621
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,680
Coming away from the birthing
chamber for a minute, let's

622
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,400
let's go to the actual Lord love
it and, and his his son, 'cause

623
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,640
I really love that Brian kind of
stood up to his father in this

624
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,160
conversation.
Like somebody needs to, somebody

625
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,520
needs to tell you your ass.
Yeah, You know, but I felt so

626
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,600
bad for him, too, because Lord
love, it makes it very clear

627
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,360
that he doesn't think Brian is
worthy.

628
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,760
Yeah.
And it's so sad that somebody

629
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:40,160
who is like Brian, you know,
murders stuff aside, somebody

630
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:48,240
who is like Brian feels like he
still needs the approval of

631
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,600
someone like Lord Lovett.
Yeah.

632
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,760
You know, just because that's
his father.

633
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:02,400
And it that thing was, it was
hard, but oh, I was telling

634
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,800
Dina, there was, there was one
thing about that scene that just

635
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,760
kind of it was so small, but it
caught my eye or it caught my

636
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,240
ear, I should say.
When they're having a

637
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:13,880
conversation right before they
they have the conversation.

638
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,480
Actually, he asked Brian
something about, oh, yeah, so

639
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,000
you're jealous like your mother,
right?

640
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,120
He says no.
And the way that he says no

641
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,640
sounds so much like Sam as
Jamie.

642
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,640
When he says no, it's like he
said it.

643
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,920
And I had to turn and look at
the TV, like, let me rewind

644
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,400
this.
He says it just like him.

645
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,520
I was like, wait, we're saying.
But anyway, that was just a

646
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,520
small aside.
But yeah, you know, we talked

647
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,480
about this in the last episode
where we was trying to figure

648
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,440
out like, what is it about Brian
that Lord Lovett just doesn't

649
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,760
like?
And he does in fact make mention

650
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:02,320
that Brian is nothing like him.
You know, that Brian took off

651
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,760
and and went on his little
pilgrimage and he was like,

652
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,000
yeah, you doing that kind of
stuff that why would I think you

653
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,960
worthy?
Like, why would I give you

654
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,640
anything?
Because basically Brian is a

655
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,880
better man than him.
Yeah.

656
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,000
And.
And Sam, you know.

657
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,360
Brian does kind of get hit, dig
his heels, and he's kind of

658
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,480
like, OK, but you ain't all that
great a person.

659
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:31,240
Why would I want, you know?
Yeah, why would I want to

660
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:34,800
emulate that?
But again, you still see the the

661
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,480
sadness on his face because
basically what he's trying to

662
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,360
what he's trying to do, I think
he's trying to figure out what

663
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,320
it is that he needs to do to
please his father so that his

664
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:50,480
father will see him as
legitimate.

665
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,400
I think that's the thing,
because I think he's thinking

666
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,840
about if I want to marry Ellen.
And I think this is something

667
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,000
else too.
Julia makes mention to Brian,

668
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,640
she was like, if Lady Ellen were
carrying your child, wouldn't

669
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,720
you want her to have the best
blah, blah, blah.

670
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:11,440
And I think that kind of that
scared him a little bit because

671
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,240
there is a possibility she could
be pregnant at this time.

672
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,080
You know, they did kind of sleep
together.

673
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,880
But I think he really started
thinking about, oh, my God, if

674
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,680
Ellen were to be in a similar
situation to Julia, what do I

675
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,680
have to offer her?
Nothing.

676
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,040
I'm a bastard.
I had no, I had no titles and no

677
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,640
property.
I have nothing.

678
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:37,320
And I think he was really trying
to see, like, what do I need to

679
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,520
do to get my father's approval
'cause even when he mentions it

680
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,640
to his mother, his mother is
kind of like, why are you asking

681
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,440
all this now?
This has never bothered you

682
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,040
before.
I'm like they trying to tear

683
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,360
this Ellen pregnant.
I mean, 'cause that's the thing.

684
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,120
Like, I guess that's it.
Anytime that they act like

685
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,080
they're surprised that it
happened and I'm like, what do

686
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,960
you think happens?
Like, yeah.

687
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,000
You know, so yeah, no, I think
that's true or not.

688
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:11,040
I also think that him, just his,
him and his dad and him having

689
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,160
to stand up to his dad all the
time and then get punished for

690
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,320
it and stuff like that, with him
being the only person who's

691
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,240
willing to take whatever they
got to take just to let this

692
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:23,520
fool know about himself.
If I know that gets tiring.

693
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,320
I know that gets hard and it
gets tiring.

694
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,840
I know he gets so tired of doing
that.

695
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,200
Because this is clearly not the
second.

696
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,640
Because we've seen it what, once
one other time and now we've

697
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,240
seen it again where he just
attacks Brian and.

698
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,480
Yeah, clearly something that's
been since he's been a child,

699
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,960
you know, and for him to still
have it in himself to be like,

700
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,080
you're a crappy person did it.
But it's almost like he's like

701
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,200
even when he was watching him,
when he was getting punished,

702
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,840
it's like he's jealous of him.
Yeah, because he's a real man.

703
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,520
He's he's a real stand up guy,
right?

704
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,320
Who is not, you know, a old
lectures.

705
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:04,320
Gross, horrible, right.
Nothing like his father, you

706
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,320
know.
But that's also the other thing

707
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,840
that they said, that toxic meant
the toxic male energy that meant

708
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,880
that masculinity where like you
got to be this certain kind of

709
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,360
person and if you're not that
certain kind of person, you're

710
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,880
not a man.
Well, no, he's just, he's a man.

711
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,760
He's a real man 'cause he ain't
out here bastardizing everybody

712
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,040
and raping people and other
folks.

713
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,320
Right.
And talking about how how people

714
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,840
did you rock?
Yep, you can't the right

715
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,200
something about it.
Not just somebody, a noble

716
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,320
woman.
Noble woman I'm.

717
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,120
Surprised they didn't like again
we talk about clan justice.

718
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,800
They could have done way worse
things to him.

719
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,360
Yeah, probably who?
Gotten away with it.

720
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,000
Did did we?
What was her?

721
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,120
Did we hear her last name?
No.

722
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,120
OK, 'cause I'm wondering if she
was a part of, you know, the

723
00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Mackenzie's are part of like
maybe people or was he like some

724
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,880
other clan or whatever?
I I would.

725
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:11,600
Well, no, because you know what?
If she's a noble woman, I would

726
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,400
think.
I don't think that would be

727
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,880
because I don't.
Because she could be a Laird,

728
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,720
somebody you know from another
clan, and be noble.

729
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,960
See, I wonder if they use that
term for like the clans.

730
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,680
Oh Lord, like maybe more like a
English person.

731
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,680
That's what I was thinking,
because usually when you're

732
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,760
talking about nobility, you're
talking about like a step down

733
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,760
from royalty like in the in
those kind of high class upper

734
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,320
echelons.
And I don't really think they

735
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:54,600
have, I don't really think they
they measured status like that

736
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,600
in Scotland.
Not that I not that I can

737
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,320
recall.
OK.

738
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,360
So it could have been somebody
English.

739
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,320
I I don't know.
I.

740
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,040
Which would make sense.
I don't know.

741
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,120
No, that would make sense
because then whoever the king is

742
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,720
would give typically gives.
You know that typically whoever

743
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:20,760
the royal family is a king, they
put the the Lords and the, you

744
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,680
know, on whoever is in power,
they like bestow land on them or

745
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,400
whatever.
So it could possibly be that she

746
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,360
was a Sassenach.
And then he was probably

747
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,520
Mackenzie probably was like he
did it.

748
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,200
And then the king or whomever
was like, right, give me your

749
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,400
titles, give me your lands.
You go, you know.

750
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:46,280
Yeah, could be.
OK, Well, yeah, that man's just

751
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,640
despicable.
Very much so.

752
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,360
Like, and you know what, I,
Well, yeah, 'cause I was going

753
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,960
to say they, they, they really
would have killed her for that,

754
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,840
'cause I was going to say the
fact that she has never slit his

755
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,240
throat or done anything like.
And that's what I was.

756
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:06,360
I was like, you must die.
And then I'm thinking at any

757
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,280
point, can you you cook his
food, drug him?

758
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,040
Well, yeah.
You know what?

759
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,080
Yeah, but you know what
suspicion probably would have

760
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,440
fallen on her because she's the
one that's she's in charge of

761
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,200
the household.
So.

762
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,960
Right, But.
Do somebody else, but you just

763
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,800
do it like snow.
Yeah, this how you?

764
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,880
Do make him sick.
She can make him sick.

765
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,240
They know the herbs and you do
it when y'all are good.

766
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,760
Like I'm not mad at him.
I don't know what is happening

767
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,720
to him you.
Know what?

768
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:35,680
She should have did it,
Michelle, She should have did it

769
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,840
when he was going that long trip
he was just on and whatever he

770
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,880
took with him and over, like
little pieces of something and

771
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,080
everything he was going to eat
on the road and he was there by

772
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,280
the time he got to wherever he
was going and he died.

773
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,480
How could I have done that?
But if he was traveling with

774
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,000
other people, other people might
have been suspicious.

775
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,760
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, I mean, it's, I

776
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,720
get it.
But yeah, my.

777
00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:01,600
That was my thoughts too.
Like, why shouldn't kill him by

778
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,720
now?
Because I would have murdered

779
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:03,760
him.
Yeah, me.

780
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,080
Too.
But you know what?

781
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,400
That probably still wouldn't
have worked out in her favor.

782
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:13,400
Because if he dies and Brian is
not legitimized, they don't get

783
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,000
none of that.
But you know what?

784
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,440
Some points it ain't worth it.
Oh.

785
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,600
You you're right, you're right,
but.

786
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,880
I mean, you might as well just
go go for gold.

787
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,480
Yeah, I.
Guess, and I get it.

788
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,760
In the situation where he is
now, though, he gave Brian his

789
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:32,520
last name, so technically he's
his only living air.

790
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,840
Yeah, Air.
Like bastard or not, they

791
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:41,360
probably, you know, would go
ahead and be like, OK, you know.

792
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,600
Or you'll have some other some
other clans fighting for

793
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,800
fighting for the lands.
Yeah, that, yeah, that's true

794
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,400
too, but.
OK, enough of Lord Lovett.

795
00:45:53,880 --> 00:46:01,440
Yes.
But for now, I hate archbug even

796
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:07,560
more now.
He's just cruel for cruel.

797
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,480
So just for no reason.
Oh God.

798
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,520
I'm on that scene of and.
You know, yeah, me too.

799
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,760
But here's the thing.
There was a split second in the

800
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,520
episode where I felt a little
bit of sympathy and empathy for

801
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,240
him.
And this is because, you know,

802
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,520
Harry is walking out, I guess,
about to go to Inverness.

803
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,800
Bug comes after him, and he's
like, where are you going?

804
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,240
Well, why does it matter?
He was like, I'll be back in

805
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:33,560
time to do what I'm supposed to
do.

806
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,920
He says, well, it's, you know,
it's my job to keep track of

807
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,000
you, to make sure you're not
wasting the Lord's delayed time

808
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,840
and that you're doing, you know,
all, you're not chores, but you

809
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,280
know, all your duties and
everything.

810
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,640
And why do you keep going on
about this woman?

811
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,240
He was like, OK, so this is not
just any woman.

812
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:55,320
This is my wife and my child.
So he finally says it.

813
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,760
It's my wife and my unborn child
because that's what he's doing.

814
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,280
He's he's going to Inverness to
try to find some midwives to see

815
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,160
if anybody has delivered a baby
because he was like, it's about

816
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,760
time.
He was like when we got here,

817
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,400
when we got separated, she was
pregnant or she was with child

818
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,880
and she should be due to give
birth any day now.

819
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,320
I'm just trying to find anybody
who can find her.

820
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:22,840
And then for a split second,
Arch's whole face changes and he

821
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,040
was like, I have a son that I
had a son that was dead born.

822
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,200
And I remember his face and
those wee lashes that were too

823
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,480
long to be on a last face.
He was like, my Medina almost

824
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,000
didn't survive.
He was like, but you know, she's

825
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,200
here.
But he kind of trails off, like

826
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,760
she almost died with the baby.
And this is the first time we've

827
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,520
heard mention of Medina in this
'cause I didn't even know if he

828
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,520
was married at this point yet
because we never heard him

829
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,640
mention her.
But when he manages, like,

830
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,560
again, his whole face, his whole
demeanor changes.

831
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,320
You can see the sadness in him
that, you know, their child was

832
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,840
lost.
He almost lost his wife.

833
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,280
So he was like, let me go speak
to let to the Laird on your

834
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,240
behalf.
We can have the midwives come

835
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:16,480
here to to talk to you and
answer any questions.

836
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,560
So here is like, oh, you'll do
that for me.

837
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,840
Oh, OK.
Well, thank you.

838
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:26,760
Really thinking that this is a
sincere gesture from Archbug.

839
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,880
I don't know why I let myself
fall into that chain of

840
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,440
thinking.
Because what we find out, the

841
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,840
midwives come through the answer
questions, answer questions, and

842
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,760
then all of a sudden there's one
midwife who answers the

843
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,520
question.
And these things are taking

844
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,520
place parallel to Julia going
through labor and actually

845
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,760
giving birth.
This one lady comes in, and when

846
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,880
he starts asking about an
English woman with child, she's

847
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:06,760
like Julia Beecham.
I'm sitting here like they're

848
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,160
going to be reunited.
He's going to find out, she

849
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,080
handled.
And yeah.

850
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,800
I don't even his face is so
joyous.

851
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,520
And she tells him, yeah, she had
the baby.

852
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,840
This was about a week ago.
Well, how is she?

853
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,680
What?
How's how's the baby?

854
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:32,800
She didn't make it and neither
did the child.

855
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,280
And I'm sitting here, I think
Dina messaged me and she was

856
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,320
like, what the fuck, Julia?
I'm like just got to be a lie

857
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,480
just because.
At this point in the show, on

858
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,680
Julia's end, we know that she's
having the baby, but we don't

859
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,240
see her actually have the baby.
So I'm thinking I'm like, Oh my

860
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:54,920
God, did they kill her off?
Did they kill her off?

861
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,520
So of course Henry, he's upset.
He he takes it hard.

862
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,360
The lady, you know, she, she
gets escorted out and she was

863
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,880
like, I'm so sorry, blah, blah,
blah.

864
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:08,400
Arch bug.
This is where I started getting

865
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,320
suspicious.
Arch bug immediately pulls,

866
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,440
pours him a DRAM, brings it
over.

867
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,120
He was like, OK, so now you
know, now you can have you a

868
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,480
drink more and then get on with
your work.

869
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:25,760
So fuck what then he goes
outside because the midwife is

870
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,120
out there and we found out that
he basically paid this woman to

871
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:35,640
lie so that Henry would let go
of his search and continue to

872
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,200
focus on his work for the
Grants.

873
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:44,080
I have never hated a character
so much as I hated Arch Bug in

874
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:52,080
that moment.
I would say Arch bug needs to

875
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,640
die, but we know he doesn't die
for many many many many many

876
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,640
many many years.
Still.

877
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,000
Shitty.
Which makes you wonder about how

878
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,920
old arch bug is supposed to be
in here.

879
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:11,680
Because this is 1715.
It is like 1780 something when

880
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,600
they are in the colonies and
when Arch Bug dies.

881
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,160
So he got to be, he had to be
almost 100 years old trying to

882
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:27,480
kidnap folks and kill folks.
And yeah, anyway.

883
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,520
Yeah, Ashwood can suck it.
I'm over him.

884
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,480
And then what happens after
that?

885
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,320
Henry leaves the house and goes
into the woods to kind of stream

886
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:47,000
and and get his grief out.
And this is playing parallel to

887
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:53,480
him having a recollection or we
having a flashback of when World

888
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,960
War One was over and he's
running through the streets with

889
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,480
the newspaper.
The war is over.

890
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:03,960
The war is over.
And he starts doing this in

891
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,120
1715.
He starts running through the

892
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,240
woods and he's repeating
everything that he said back

893
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:17,560
then.
And when I say I started crying

894
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,560
because I realized his mind has
had broken, we broke him.

895
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:28,080
The news about Julia and his
child's death broke him to the

896
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:33,800
point where he didn't know what
he was saying or what he was

897
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:39,400
doing and what he do.
And in the flashback, he goes

898
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,920
home to Julia.
He tells her about the war being

899
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,600
over, and he has a conversation
with her.

900
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,360
And she's looking at him like, I
don't understand what you're

901
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,880
saying.
What are you talking about?

902
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:54,960
And we find out that Henry has
made his way back to the

903
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,920
warehouse, to the brothel, and
he is talking to the English

904
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:05,160
poor, but he does not see her.
He does not acknowledge her.

905
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:14,000
He does not know where he is.
He thinks she is Julia and she

906
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,200
goes along with it because this
is the only way she can get this

907
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,840
man to bed her.
Has she been waiting?

908
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,720
And she's been waiting.
Too much.

909
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:28,280
Girl and she allows him to, and
I don't even know if she

910
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,000
understands what she's
witnessing right now with him.

911
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,800
No, no.
Until he calls her Julia.

912
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,760
And then I think at that point
she realizes, OK, something

913
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,640
ain't right with him.
But she just goes on.

914
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,080
She leads him to the bed, they
have sex.

915
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,400
And all this time he is thinking
he is with Julia.

916
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:56,800
And when I say I want to scream
at the TV because as as much as

917
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:02,240
he held on to the fact that he
was not going to be unfaithful

918
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:05,720
to his wife.
And now that he is done and what

919
00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:09,880
is going to happen if he wakes
up from this fever dream that he

920
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,640
just had and realizes what he
has done, that's going to be

921
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,600
another grief on top of grief on
top of grief.

922
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,880
Yeah.
And we already know that he has

923
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:31,520
bouts of PTSD.
Yeah, We know that he can have

924
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:39,080
bouts of violence.
I just don't know what is going

925
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,280
to happen with him.
Yeah.

926
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:46,200
And this situation and this
girl, once he finds out that

927
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,440
she, I, I, and I don't know if
there was anything that she

928
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,000
could have done to snapping out
of that.

929
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,480
No, the fact that you didn't
even try.

930
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,440
Yeah, she didn't want to.
Because at first, she really

931
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,480
thought he was coming back until
that wasn't making any sense.

932
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,000
And then it's like, OK, yeah,
when?

933
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,440
When you call somebody by
somebody else's.

934
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,440
Name.
Yeah.

935
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,120
That should have told you right
then.

936
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:21,000
But I I tell you, Henry's his
story.

937
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,400
Just so heartbreaking.
It is.

938
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,360
So what I need for is then you
do something 'cause we getting,

939
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,920
do we getting Ellen and Brian
and, you know, making love in

940
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,720
the castle beautiful and
together they, they, you know,

941
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:44,040
Mary, but not Mary, but Harry, I
mean, and Julie, we put them

942
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,320
through the ringer.
Can we get them back together

943
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,360
please?
Yeah, no.

944
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,920
'Cause I'm done.
Looking at like I'm looking at

945
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,360
our backgrounds thinking about
this because I really kind of

946
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,200
feel like they may never get
back together because I feel

947
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:08,360
like or OK or so two things.
It could be a symbol of they may

948
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,800
never make it back together
because there's the, you know,

949
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,680
mine where they're reaching for
each other, but they're

950
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,400
separate.
And then and yours, she's not

951
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,520
looking at him and he's, you
know, and so that could be two

952
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:20,920
things.
It could be they they're never

953
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,320
gonna make it back together.
They're gonna always be within

954
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,120
reach, but without of reach
kind.

955
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,560
Of yeah or.
I don't want to hear that.

956
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,600
OK.
Or I don't.

957
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,480
Want to hear that?
You know, I don't know, like I

958
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,120
just feel like, why did they do
this 'cause if you look at Brian

959
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,880
and Ellen, they're, you know,
look at Oh my, well, they're on

960
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,720
my.
On yours, they're in the

961
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,000
embrace.
And then on yours, she's looking

962
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,360
back at him, he's looking at
her.

963
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,240
But on with the other couple,
Henry's just like longingly.

964
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,840
And she's going this way, not
even looking at him.

965
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,360
And then, I don't know, I think
they're telling us something.

966
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,920
Something.
But let me look because they

967
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,680
because that the image that you
have on your background, they

968
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:10,840
actually have a second image
like that, but it's with Julia

969
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:17,080
and Henry and then Ellen and
Brian are the ones that are

970
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,320
reaching for each other.
OK.

971
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,920
Thank you.
Yeah, Thank you.

972
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,840
Yeah, I'll do this today
because.

973
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,840
That man is broken.
That's trauma going on in this

974
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,280
show.
Right, because that man I said

975
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,240
they broke him.
They broke him.

976
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,920
I when I.
Oh my God, that, that is broken

977
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,400
so bad.
And then on the other side, you

978
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,520
know, and it's, it's, I think it
also is good to show kind of

979
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,280
the, the strengths and
weaknesses of of both parties.

980
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,480
Because you see, Julia, she was
kind of, they were trying to

981
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,440
break her down while she was
giving birth.

982
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,600
And then towards the end, she
kind of, she did stand up for

983
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,240
herself.
She was basically like, OK, you

984
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,400
know what she was like.
If y'all touch my baby, I'm

985
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,600
gonna kill all y'all.
I'm just letting y'all know this

986
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,200
now.
But she also had somebody with

987
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,440
her.
And I think the thing with Henry

988
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:15,480
is Julia has always been the
thing to kind of bring him back

989
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:21,800
from the brink.
And now he's he's finding out

990
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,280
that she's gone from him
forever.

991
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,000
And I just, y'all are tearing my
heart.

992
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,080
Y'all are tearing my heart out
of my body.

993
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,720
And yeah, I I can't take it.
I mean, you got him over here

994
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:42,040
broken thinking he's seeing his
wife and and she's not there.

995
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,680
And you got Julia over here
giving birth.

996
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:51,160
She does give birth to the baby.
And at first, I thought they

997
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,520
were about to tell us this baby
was about to be stillborn.

998
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,080
I was about to be really upset
because that baby did not cry

999
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,360
when she gave birth.
And Serena had to literally sit

1000
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,600
there and wipe him on the back
several times to get him to

1001
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,520
start breathing.
I say if y'all.

1002
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,040
I was like, no, we're not about
to do this.

1003
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,880
He was probably so stressed.
That poor baby after all that

1004
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:18,880
craziness, girl.
But she gives birth.

1005
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,440
She does have a baby.
She has a baby boy.

1006
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,880
Has not named him yet.
I noticed she just called him

1007
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:32,200
baby boy beat him.
But this changes everything and.

1008
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,960
How he?
Actually has because I wasn't

1009
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,240
sure.
I'm going to be completely

1010
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,240
honest with you.
I wasn't sure if she will

1011
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,360
actually have the baby.
Oh, OK.

1012
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,800
So that the baby will be alive.
OK.

1013
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:51,000
So once he started crying, I
said like this changes.

1014
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,040
Yeah.
Everything and we got to figure

1015
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,400
out how this all.
And you know what?

1016
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,920
We're not going to figure that
out probably until the 10th

1017
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:02,600
episode of Season 1 when they
finally tell us what this baby's

1018
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:10,120
name is because.
Because if they tell it to us

1019
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,000
now.
We going to be searching.

1020
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,480
We going to be searching.
We going to be looking because

1021
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:21,400
remember there is a Beecham that
shows up in in season 7 of

1022
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:26,600
Outlander who is an English
person pretending to be a French

1023
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:33,200
person, remember?
Yeah, Lord John did not like

1024
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,840
him.
Yeah, Mr. Lord John's

1025
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,640
stepbrother, not stepbrother,
Yeah, yeah.

1026
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:49,200
But yeah, I like, I like that
Brian has has basically said,

1027
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,800
yeah, your child ain't got to
worry about shit.

1028
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,960
I'm here.
I like these.

1029
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,840
I like these friendships that
we're seeing between Jamie and

1030
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,720
Claire's parents because they're
so unexpected.

1031
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,800
But again, it's it's just kind
of like, like Michelle said,

1032
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,360
the, the, the world's an open
stage now.

1033
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:15,120
It's like everything can happen.
And I'm just, I don't know,

1034
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:22,400
because thinking back to the the
prophecy that Maze regay now we

1035
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,200
got to figure out, OK, so she
was correct.

1036
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,760
It was a boy.
Now we just got to figure out

1037
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:32,440
how he is important and and who
is he that he's going to like

1038
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,000
unite all of the clans and all
this other stuff.

1039
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:41,320
I'm like, OK, we still have
what, 4 episodes for this

1040
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,600
season?
Yeah, I think, I think we'll

1041
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,720
probably find out something.
Episode 10.

1042
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:59,640
So I don't know.
I don't know, but this episode

1043
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,760
was draining.
Yeah, it was draining.

1044
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:08,240
I mean in a good way.
But it was because again, you

1045
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:16,160
find out Miss, Miss Porter is
not as OneNote as it seemed

1046
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,320
like.
She really is a complex person

1047
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:23,520
and she's had to deal with
complex issues dealing with this

1048
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,560
whole thing with Lord Lovett and
Bryant.

1049
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:33,400
And I, you know, I, I gotta say
I, I give it to her because like

1050
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,880
I said, he'd have been dead.
He'd have been dead.

1051
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:45,640
And then even like, so once Miss
Porter kicks all of the the

1052
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:53,640
midwives and everyone out, Lord
Lovett is there waiting for the

1053
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,960
reverend.
And when they tell him they're

1054
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,960
like, yeah, Miss Porter gone
crazy, She kicked us out.

1055
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,720
He's like, OK, well, when you
see people you're going to,

1056
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,520
you're going to tell them that.
Congratulations should be set my

1057
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,520
way because I'll have been
married and my son will have

1058
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,760
been born.
My legitimate son will have been

1059
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,840
born, whatever.
And of course, he comes into the

1060
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,960
room.
He tries to barge in because

1061
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,440
it's just Miss Porter and Julia.
Now she is again, she's come to

1062
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,400
her senses.
She is determined to help Julia

1063
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,120
because Julia is basically she's
like, look, I'm just trying to

1064
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,880
protect my child.
I would do whatever I need to do

1065
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,520
to protect, take my child,
including giving up my own life,

1066
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,920
if that's what it comes to.
OK.

1067
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,080
That's a language Miss Porter
can understand.

1068
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,880
Yep.
So when Lord Lovett tries to

1069
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:49,000
barge in or when he does barge
in, he's basically like, OK,

1070
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,440
yeah.
I don't care if I got to drag

1071
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,120
her from the bed.
I'm going to marry Julia.

1072
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,600
And Miss Porter's like, you
ain't about to do nothing.

1073
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:59,120
This baby is already coming.
Yep.

1074
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:07,080
And she finally, finally goes
off on him.

1075
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,320
She's like, whenever you ever
cared about doing what's right

1076
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:17,000
by anybody except for yourself.
Now, she does get a slap across

1077
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,880
the face for it.
But you know what?

1078
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,240
I think if I was her, I it, it's
like Searcy, when Robert slapped

1079
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,320
her, she's like, I'll turn the
other cheek just for the

1080
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:32,240
satisfaction of having said what
I said she caught.

1081
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,280
What did she call him?
She called him some kind of

1082
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:39,600
name.
I don't know, but I was cheering

1083
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,600
her on.
Because I was like, finally,

1084
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,640
somebody is saying it.
And I mean, said it to the point

1085
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,400
where she scared the reverend.
The reverend was like, yeah, I

1086
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,400
want no part of this.
None.

1087
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,200
What did she say?
He was like, this child of mine

1088
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:58,400
will be born in wedlock.
If I have to drag her from the

1089
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,320
bed, my son will be legitimate
in the eyes of God.

1090
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,960
Is that all it Is that all it
takes?

1091
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,440
Yeah.
Not the fact.

1092
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,160
That, you know, yeah, we're
nowhere close to married When

1093
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,840
when she got with child, but OK.
Oh, that's what she said.

1094
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,960
You leave us be, you file
cantankerous old man, get out.

1095
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,440
And of course, Brian, you know,
grabs him after he has struck

1096
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,600
his mother.
But I was just, I felt so much

1097
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,920
satisfaction.
And she said I was like, finally

1098
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,040
somebody like, he's been getting
called out this whole episode,

1099
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,400
first by Brian, then by Brian's
mother.

1100
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:42,640
Now here's the thing.
I worry about what's going to

1101
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,240
happen to them after this
because of course, you know,

1102
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,920
emotions are in the air.
Julie is about to give birth,

1103
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,640
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So once Julie has given birth,

1104
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,080
what's going to happen to Miss
Porter?

1105
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,920
Because she stood, she stood up
to the Laird of the house.

1106
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:04,960
So I don't know if he's going to
just put her out, if he's going

1107
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,560
to take the strap to her or
rather take the strap to Brian

1108
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,880
because, you know, Brian and
Brian didn't let Julian get

1109
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,280
beat.
He for damn sure ain't about to

1110
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:16,560
let his Mama get beat.
And then of course, he already

1111
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,080
he gets the strap in this
episode because of their, you

1112
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:25,760
know, going against Lord Lovett.
But I, I, I worry for her now,

1113
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,680
like she's put up with a lot
from this man.

1114
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,680
She is, she has done a lot, She
has dealt with a lot.

1115
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:37,320
And now that she has finally
stood up to him, I just, I

1116
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:43,160
wonder what's going to happen
because I don't, I don't

1117
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:48,680
remember if they ever mentioned
when Brian's mother died.

1118
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:56,000
I don't think she's alive when
Brian dies, that much I'm almost

1119
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:02,760
certain of.
And I'm pretty sure I don't know

1120
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:07,800
if Jamie ever mentioned that
they that they had a

1121
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,360
relationship with their
grandmother.

1122
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,440
So, you know, it just it's one
of those things I worry about it

1123
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,520
now.
Like, OK, So what is he going to

1124
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:20,320
do to her?
I hope nothing but that we

1125
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:27,560
already know this man is not he
is not just, he is not fair.

1126
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:35,640
So I I don't know.
I don't know.

1127
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,600
I have feelings.
Yeah.

1128
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:43,040
I do like seeing via flashback
to Claire's entrance into the

1129
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,840
world.
You know, we, we do get, we do

1130
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,760
get a little glimpse of Claire,
baby Claire.

1131
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,160
But yeah.
Yeah.

1132
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,600
Oh no, this.
This episode was rough.

1133
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,960
All I know, and that's another
one.

1134
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,400
Another thing.
I couldn't have made it back

1135
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,240
then.
No, I need a hospital.

1136
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,320
I need some type of drugs.
Oh, I definitely wouldn't have

1137
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,560
made it.
I had, you know, I've had three

1138
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:15,760
C sections.
I've never.

1139
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,439
I did too.
So I thought about that too.

1140
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,120
I'd be like, I'll be one of the
ones that like baby didn't

1141
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,680
survive, mother didn't survive,
right?

1142
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:32,560
However, I felt the first group
of pains I I was done before I

1143
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,800
got that epidural.
I felt that.

1144
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,560
I still remember how that felt.
I couldn't do that.

1145
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,560
The whole entire that's just
not.

1146
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:44,479
I'm gonna build that way.
Crazy woman shouting yelling.

1147
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:45,200
At you.
Yeah.

1148
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,920
And I can't touch.
No stones or Or even holding

1149
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,240
like she did with Henry.
Hold on to the bed.

1150
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,880
Real you stand.
I would have fell out.

1151
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,399
Right.
Like, hit me, knock me out,

1152
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,560
right.
So, so clearly I'm not touching

1153
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,120
those stones.
I can't go back to nobody's past

1154
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:08,040
'cause I wouldn't survive.
No, the Bible rating is 10%.

1155
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:14,640
No, but.
Oh, OK, so Julie has Julie has

1156
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,960
her baby boy.
We don't know how his importance

1157
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,240
yet.
The important boy.

1158
01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:25,319
I can't wait for a name.
Oh my God, no.

1159
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:30,319
I know poor Henry.
Mine is broken.

1160
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,800
I think.
I think Henry is probably going

1161
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,080
to be the tragic figure of this
show, though.

1162
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:41,399
I do believe that just because
we've already seen him dealing

1163
01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:48,120
with PTSD, but to see him go
through a like a full mental

1164
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:54,360
break like that, like I, I don't
have that kind of experience

1165
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,120
with this thing.
And I don't know that I know

1166
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,320
anybody who was dealt with
something like that.

1167
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:05,360
Like, is that something you can
come back from, you know?

1168
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:09,240
I think it is, I just, I think
it is, it's just they don't have

1169
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:14,280
the means for what he would need
like treatment, therapy and

1170
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:18,320
maybe even medication.
And you know, 'cause there are

1171
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:22,880
coping mechanisms for for
soldiers who have really bad

1172
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,440
PTSD that snap, there are coping
mechanisms.

1173
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:29,920
I definitely grew up with a a
ton of military people who had

1174
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:35,200
been in the war from Vietnam on
up and, you know, literally like

1175
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,640
waking their wives up in the
middle of the night trying to

1176
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,960
kill them because they think
they're still at war.

1177
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,720
And like, one person in
particular, they had a code

1178
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:50,280
where anytime he would do that,
she would have to yell friendly

1179
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:55,800
forces, friendly forces to jar
him out of I'm not the enemy,

1180
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,840
don't kill me, you know?
And so like that, I don't think

1181
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:04,000
it ever goes away, but I think
you can bring him back out of

1182
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,360
that.
Like how far he's gone, you can

1183
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:10,000
bring him back, but I don't
know, in 1700s, how do you bring

1184
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,040
him back from that without
actually being like Julia, like,

1185
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:13,560
right.
Right.

1186
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,280
Because I was going to say, I
think Julia has a phrase that

1187
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,120
she says to him that kind of
brings him out of that.

1188
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,440
But we've never seen him that
far gone.

1189
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,080
You know, we've seen him having
the flashbacks and everything,

1190
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:32,000
but it's but he's never, he's
never done anything to her that

1191
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,960
we've seen in his flashbacks.
It's always like somebody else

1192
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,800
next to him was getting attacked
and he's reacting to that or he

1193
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,920
was reacting to like some
backfire that he heard.

1194
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:49,000
But we've never seen him like
this, you know, to the point

1195
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,240
where he, he doesn't even
recognize where he is.

1196
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,760
He thinks he's in his flat in
London.

1197
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:04,600
He was, Oh my God, he was so in
19, you know, Yeah. 19171918

1198
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:11,800
because Claire was born in 1918.
So yeah, I just, I don't.

1199
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,720
And and he's, he's having his
breakdown in the background now.

1200
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,240
It's just, it's so it's so hard
to watch it.

1201
01:12:18,440 --> 01:12:21,560
Is hard, especially when he's
just crying and he's just on the

1202
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:30,720
ground and his eyes and just.
He plays this so well, you know,

1203
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:36,160
But yeah, it's just, yeah, here
is I think here is going to be

1204
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,840
the character that breaks all of
our hearts in this one.

1205
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:44,040
Because even with even with
Murta going from happy go lucky

1206
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:49,840
to, you know, old Curmudgeon, we
still get to see him.

1207
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:54,800
We do still get to see flashes
of that old Murta in him.

1208
01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:00,080
So and, and we also grow to love
the older Murtha, you know, so

1209
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,600
it's like his his story is not a
tragic story.

1210
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,760
Like, yes, there's some sadness,
there's some heartbreak, but

1211
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:11,120
it's not tragic in that sense.
Harry's story, like everything

1212
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,840
that we know about it so far, we
know he's separated from his

1213
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,280
daughter.
You know, his daughter thinks

1214
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,040
he's dead, you know, five years
old.

1215
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,360
She's left an orphan.
We see what's going on here.

1216
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:26,360
He thinks now his wife is dead,
his newborn baby is dead, he's

1217
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,000
separated from his other
daughter, he's in a whole

1218
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,160
different time.
So whatever other family he had

1219
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:40,280
besides Lamb, everybody's gone.
So it's just, I don't know, I

1220
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,920
don't want to think about what
Dina said earlier about the fact

1221
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,320
that they may never see each
other again, but it is a strong

1222
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,240
possibility that they may never
see each other again and.

1223
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,400
It's, I don't, I just stop
saying that I'm I'm not, I'm

1224
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:56,040
not.
And it's so frustrating because

1225
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,320
they're so close to each other.
Yeah, they're too close.

1226
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,480
They are.
They're too close.

1227
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,560
So they're going to have a run
in, but it's just going to have

1228
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,600
to bring him back, OK, because
he's done.

1229
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:08,880
Yeah.
Is his mind gonna be attacked

1230
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,760
when he does see her?
That he don't think he's seeing

1231
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,760
the ghost, you know?
He's gonna think he's seeing

1232
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:13,680
that.
Yeah, that's the thing.

1233
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:14,960
He don't think he's seeing the
ghost.

1234
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,480
That to me.
Don't do that to me, I.

1235
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,160
Don't.
It's so hard.

1236
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,880
I just didn't see it coming like
this.

1237
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,160
I mean, I know I did what time
period they lived in based on

1238
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,960
Claire's birth and and where she
came from.

1239
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,440
But it's just like now I'm like,
hey, what?

1240
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:35,600
These boys filled with nothing
but war.

1241
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,920
Her time is war.
Their time was war.

1242
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,040
Jamie's time was war.
Yep.

1243
01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:43,760
Oh my gosh.
Yep.

1244
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,760
Yeah.
So.

1245
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,960
Did we forget?
Anything I'm trying to remember.

1246
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:56,920
Was there something else besides
that?

1247
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:02,320
That was it was heavy, yeah.
Yeah, poor man.

1248
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,880
Like his eyes are not focused at
all.

1249
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,920
And I love the way that they
have Julia playing the the the

1250
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,920
confused part, you know, because
it's like, yes, she looks like

1251
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,560
Julia, but it but there's
something kind of off about her

1252
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,960
as well because she's Julia
reacting to a, a, a Henry that's

1253
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,720
behaving strangely.
But it does almost feel like,

1254
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:27,600
yeah, like that's AAI version or
something, a clone or something.

1255
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:35,440
Like it's not her, but OK, so we
have what, 4 episodes left for

1256
01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:37,880
this season?
And then I don't know when the

1257
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,080
second season would come out
because I think they're still

1258
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:46,440
filming that so but.
Probably about the same time

1259
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,880
next year.
I hope, but you know, I hate to

1260
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,800
say it with the stars shows they
are one of these networks that

1261
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:59,160
does very long hiatuses.
Look, I'm still waiting on P

1262
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:08,160
Valley to come back.
So I I don't know, but I I need

1263
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,360
them to resolve this thing with
Henry before the end of the

1264
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,040
first season.
Like, I don't want to go into

1265
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,720
the second season with him and
Julia still separating.

1266
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,600
I I need them to get back
together.

1267
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,760
I mean, I don't know what that
would entail for the second

1268
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,800
season as far as their story,
because, again, we don't know

1269
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,320
anything about their story.
Yeah, but I don't want to see

1270
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,760
them separated for for much
longer.

1271
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,040
This is.
Is yeah, this is it.

1272
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,680
Also, you know what, it's also
that thing where it reminds me

1273
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,280
of like when Claire was on the
log number, whatever, she was on

1274
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,880
the ether, and they just kept
doing that whole Mr. Brown

1275
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,040
storyline.
They may not be.

1276
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,600
Making it out.
They may not do that 'cause I

1277
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,440
was very vocal about not liking.
That shit, I really love that

1278
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:56,080
they gave him the PTSD and
they're showing all this, but I

1279
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,360
really don't want this to be
continued.

1280
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:03,560
Like where he's just constantly
in a state of confusion and

1281
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,480
they're apart and he can't
handle life because he can't be

1282
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:08,000
with his woman or he thinks
she's dead.

1283
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,080
Like please don't like give me a
give me one this episode and

1284
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,720
next episode.
No, she's not dead.

1285
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,400
So he can be happy.
I need him to be happy.

1286
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,240
Yeah.
Because I can't take it.

1287
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,840
No, I don't want to be annoyed.
But I wonder so.

1288
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:29,520
OK, so this is my question
because since the midwives left

1289
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,000
and.
And the howdy.

1290
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:42,000
They are aware of the
questionability.

1291
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,840
I'm making that word, the
questionability of the Laird's

1292
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:55,520
new sons parentage.
I wonder if I wonder if there's

1293
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:59,760
going to be some gossip about
the about Lord Lovett's new

1294
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:05,160
child and about the mother of
that child, and if that gossip

1295
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,640
will make its way to the grant
estates.

1296
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,680
Hopefully.
I feel like it definitely is,

1297
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,840
because when he threatened old
girl.

1298
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,120
Yeah.
And I, you better congratulate

1299
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,400
me, basically, And you better
keep your mouth shut with

1300
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:20,960
anything you think, you know,
basically.

1301
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,240
You know, I feel like she was
like, yeah, OK, yeah, I'm gonna

1302
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,080
do that.
But then women are.

1303
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:33,840
Also the the the midwife who
arch bug paid like right he told

1304
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,160
her and basically you know what
this means you need to keep your

1305
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,120
mouth shut and stuff.
But when she left she was

1306
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,400
looking at him like this, not
sitting right with me.

1307
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,680
I have a feeling she's probably
going to open her mouth.

1308
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,160
'Cause she, yeah, that was so
trifling though.

1309
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:55,240
So he can get back to work like
you who have lost a child and

1310
01:18:55,240 --> 01:19:00,440
know what that pain feels like.
You would inflict that on

1311
01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:04,480
another man for what?
And I don't understand what's so

1312
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:09,680
important about them wanting to
keep Henry there at all, to be

1313
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,400
honest.
It's not like he can't just do

1314
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,600
his job and go, you know, right,
go about his business.

1315
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:19,080
Right, right.
He's that part too.

1316
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,720
I'm like, he's not a captor.
I'm just confused of why he

1317
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,880
can't go about his business
Right he's.

1318
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,520
Not a slave.
Doing his work y'all made more

1319
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,320
money than you have made in a
very long time with him.

1320
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,640
So keep him happy, parts, keep
him happy.

1321
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,120
Yeah, because at this point you
don't you, you want for nothing.

1322
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,360
So he ain't collecting rents
right now because he just did

1323
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:41,320
that.
Yeah.

1324
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,760
So he may get enough rents for
the next year.

1325
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,000
He's going back and forth to
make sure the marriage contract

1326
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,080
is right.
So.

1327
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,240
Yeah.
Right.

1328
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,960
So it's it's like what?
And I don't know, maybe it's

1329
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:03,840
just that they're worried that,
I don't know, they hired Henry.

1330
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,080
Because of his business acumen.
And maybe they're worried that

1331
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,880
somebody he'll end up going to
another clan or, you know, once

1332
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,760
he finds his wife, he'll leave,
which I can understand them

1333
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,240
being worried about that because
like you said, they have been

1334
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,480
very profitable since he
restarted working for them.

1335
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:29,040
But it's like, I it's it's very
weird the way they're trying to

1336
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,280
keep tabs on him.
Yeah.

1337
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,680
But again, I, I, I really do
think that's just because they

1338
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,000
know as soon as he found his
wife, he's gone, You know,

1339
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:44,320
because I don't trying to think,
I feel like he mentioned, has he

1340
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,400
mentioned Claire to the Grants
like that, that he has a

1341
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,920
daughter.
I don't think so.

1342
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,280
OK.
But also I feel like too like if

1343
01:20:55,280 --> 01:21:01,520
he if they think he's going to
leave or whatever does that mean

1344
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,120
they just can't find another
blade or like I just feel like

1345
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,880
y'all can find somebody else.
Well, I mean, they killed the

1346
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,200
last one, and they haven't told
anybody else about that.

1347
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,320
They're just like, oh, where's
the old blade?

1348
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,240
Yeah, he left.
He's he's no longer with the

1349
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,920
company.
Right, like he's, he just left,

1350
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,720
didn't leave a forwarding
address.

1351
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,880
Like he may have had friends
there.

1352
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:28,080
Nobody knows where this man is.
Yeah, sounds not right.

1353
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:33,200
So, yeah, I mean, if, if, if men
gossip like women do, and we

1354
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,720
know in business matters, they
they tend to gossip, at least in

1355
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,960
these times.
They probably would have been

1356
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,400
like, you know, the last bladder
kind of disappeared.

1357
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,800
Nobody knows where he went.
So if Henry ends up leaving,

1358
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,120
yeah, they might have a problem
filling that position.

1359
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:54,360
Yeah.
It's possible but oh OK this is

1360
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:58,320
the part that I forgot.
I think it's so sad that Brian

1361
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:02,680
does not know his birthday.
I know.

1362
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:10,000
And he was like, yeah, I don't
think my mom wanted to, to mark

1363
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,920
the occasion because because of
his, you know, him being a

1364
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,320
bastard.
I thought that was so sad.

1365
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,280
And I love that Julia gave him
the locate with the candle.

1366
01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:25,240
And again, I, I really love
this, this relationship with him

1367
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,400
and Julia.
It's kind of like, yeah, I can

1368
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:33,120
understand if it wasn't for
Ellen and Henry, I could see a

1369
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,240
possible relationship with those
two.

1370
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:40,600
But I really do like the kind
of, it's almost like a sibling

1371
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,360
vibe with them, you know,
especially now that Brian knows

1372
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,240
that that baby is not his
brother.

1373
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,080
But still, he was like this
child, you know, I will always

1374
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,520
be here for this child.
I love it too.

1375
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:01,000
He's just so sweet.
Like it's a good kind hearted

1376
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,840
sweet man.
Like, yes, yeah, that's how, you

1377
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:08,200
know, like even if he was born
in a shitty situation, you don't

1378
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,560
have to be the person that you
were born to be in that regard.

1379
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,520
Like the people are like, well,
this how I was raised, this how

1380
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,520
was this?
You don't got to be like that.

1381
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,760
You choose to be like that
'cause it's easier for you to be

1382
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,120
that way 'cause he is literally
going against the grain at every

1383
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,360
turn.
Like the complete opposite of

1384
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:35,680
his father.
So yeah, OK, I I, I just need

1385
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,240
them to fix Henry.
And I'm assuming that with the

1386
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:42,800
next episode, 'cause I have not
looked at the, I have not looked

1387
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,960
at the previews for the next
episode.

1388
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,800
So I don't know what's going on.
I'm going to assume that we're

1389
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,000
going to go back to McKenzie.
So, oh, it just came on.

1390
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,040
So I see a little bit of Berta
and Brian.

1391
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,200
So I'm like, oh, what is this
about to be?

1392
01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:02,240
But yeah, I need some.
I need some justice for Murta

1393
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,800
and I need some justice for
Henry.

1394
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:11,440
I do because if not.
I mean, I'm still going to shit

1395
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:13,680
Brian and Ellen, but I do need
some justice.

1396
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,000
I mean, I do, I get it.
I sold it.

1397
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:22,160
It's just that it just didn't.
They just didn't handle it the

1398
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,160
way they needed to.
First of all, let's not even.

1399
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,480
Say they because again, Ellen
did not know who Merkel.

1400
01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:30,520
Was no, no, no, no.
Ellen is included in this.

1401
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,160
I was about to hit the
beginning.

1402
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,160
Ellen needs to stop throwing
those eyes everywhere.

1403
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:42,000
OK, so when you do go after
Brian, people be like, that

1404
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,080
makes sense.
But when you walk around and

1405
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,600
like you, you in love with
Malcolm.

1406
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:52,480
So that tells me she a flirter.
That tells me that's why

1407
01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:54,600
everybody in the village,
Warner.

1408
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,200
She's just so carefree.
Oh, thank you for the pie.

1409
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,520
No, thank you.
I don't think that's her.

1410
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,080
I don't think that's her.
I think she's doing this with

1411
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:10,960
Malcolm because I, I really
think that what column told her

1412
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,720
about what happened to the last
person who went against the

1413
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,800
Grant, You know, he disappeared
into the Heathers, basically.

1414
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,760
They killed him.
I think that really, really did

1415
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,760
scare her.
Yeah, it did.

1416
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,720
I'm it just goes along with my
dialogue.

1417
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:30,280
OK, so she is, but she was she.
But she's very convincing.

1418
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,320
Let's not get it wrong.
Yeah, but it's not where

1419
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:38,160
everybody's just Malcolm.
Yeah, but, but because she's so

1420
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:42,760
convincing, I am saying that
when she walk around, she treats

1421
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:46,240
everyone very kindly.
Like, you know, like this is

1422
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,600
cheers.
Everyone knows your name and

1423
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,080
that's why they just so like
her.

1424
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,760
You, you get what I'm saying?
Like she doesn't, she doesn't

1425
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,920
mistreat people.
So she goes around with a kind

1426
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,360
heart.
However, I need her to put that

1427
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,720
wall up.
OK, then you got Brian over

1428
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:05,440
here.
I know this is love and lust,

1429
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:11,320
but that is your friend who has
been on your back.

1430
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,360
You could have gave him a little
bit more respect, just a little

1431
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:21,480
bit tad bit more.
OK, Yeah, yeah.

1432
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,800
So yeah.
Justice for murder.

1433
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:31,040
And let's not get wrong either,
Julia is lying.

1434
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:37,920
She put Miss Porter through it.
Miss Porter had to get all the

1435
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,760
feelings from back in the day to
now, which, understandable.

1436
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:47,320
I'm surprised she didn't break.
That's a strong.

1437
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:48,400
One what?
What's the?

1438
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:52,600
What's the bug?
Need to catch a bug.

1439
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,640
I know that's right.
We already know how his story

1440
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,160
is, so I'm not even.
Because you just, you literally

1441
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,360
just broke a man.
You broke the man.

1442
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:06,600
You might as well had just let
the two people who who came by,

1443
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,400
who didn't know anybody, be the
only two midwives.

1444
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,920
Yeah.
But no, because then he would

1445
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,600
have he would have continued
searching.

1446
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,560
But my thing is So what?
And he have a wife, he bring her

1447
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,160
to the house and he can still
work.

1448
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,840
Yeah.
See.

1449
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:22,880
That's also true.
Look.

1450
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:30,960
That is why your wife got shot.
Look, Oh no, I was literally

1451
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,920
thinking that that's that was
your punishment for being nasty.

1452
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:39,240
That's why Medina got got taken
out your nastiness 'cause it was

1453
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:45,440
still in you later on.
Yes, that is exactly what I was

1454
01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:50,040
just thinking.
Sometimes time will come around,

1455
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,400
but it don't come when you think
it's going to.

1456
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,520
Come right?
Yeah, but damn, 8090 years

1457
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,880
later.
You did it did over foolishness

1458
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:01,480
because your wife didn't listen
to you.

1459
01:28:01,480 --> 01:28:05,560
She had to go and find the gold.
If she stayed at home y'all

1460
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,720
would have been fine.
And she put on his coat, but

1461
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,360
that's all.
Yeah.

1462
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,760
So that's what.
So I'm just saying that part.

1463
01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:21,200
And then now I feel bad for the
the the lady of the night

1464
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,840
because she cares.
You can tell she kind of care

1465
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,480
and like Henry, and even when
she was laying there, he like

1466
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:35,200
Julia, 00 and she's like, Oh no.
Excuse me honey, in your

1467
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,640
profession you are not supposed
to be catching feelings.

1468
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:42,520
Yes, but he's so nice.
He respected her, he respected

1469
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,640
her.
If she's another Julia, that

1470
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,560
somebody done snatched off the
damn St.

1471
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,360
'cause she was a lonely Sassenac
walking around and they was like

1472
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:51,360
she.
Probably was.

1473
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,960
She probably was.
And The thing is, he was nice,

1474
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:57,680
you know what I'm saying?
She had to do something.

1475
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,200
He was like, I don't want to do.
I have someone I love.

1476
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,040
And then when he did come back,
he still didn't want to do

1477
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,800
anything.
He literally just wanted to

1478
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,720
sleep.
And she hold him.

1479
01:29:08,440 --> 01:29:11,080
So then she's like, oh, he's a
kind man.

1480
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,480
Yeah.
So now her feelings.

1481
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,120
Kind of like Jane and William.
Yeah.

1482
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,680
Similar.
Very similar.

1483
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,120
Very sad.
Yeah.

1484
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:28,160
So yeah, yeah, we, we better.
We better get better.

1485
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,880
Yeah, yeah.
We need some justice, we need

1486
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,880
some resolution, resolution.
And I need the baby's name.

1487
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,560
I need to see the first
Charlie's name.

1488
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:43,800
And on that note, that's it bro
Show.

1489
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,080
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1490
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:54,480
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1491
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1494
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,000
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1495
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