Outlander: Blood of My Blood (Season 1 Episode 8) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #378

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Michelle and Dina and we
are discussing episode 8 of

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Outlander, Blood of My Blood.
But before we do that, welcome

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back, Michelle, we missed you.
Yes, look, you picked the wrong

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episode to go out of town.
Right, and I didn't even realize

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that y'all had recorded and I'm
sitting here watching.

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Thank goodness you said
something.

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Because I was like, I said, we
had this whole conversation, but

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you know what you was you was
already in trip mode the last

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time we recorded because we were
talking about it.

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Because I was like, is there any
way that we can record?

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And then you were like, I, I
don't know.

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Because we, I think we were
trying to do it earlier in that

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week.
And then I was like, well, we

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can do it on Sunday or Monday.
So me and Dina decided to do it

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on Sunday.
And then when when I watched the

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episode, I said, you know what?
I said, we're going to have to

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get Michelle's thoughts on this
episode because she got her

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little confrontation with Brian
and Merton.

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So Michelle, come on, give us
your thoughts for Episode 7

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before we get into this.
Well, I mean, Merton was

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correct.
I mean, I don't, I, it's, it's

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nothing else I can add to that.
He had the right again.

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You should have told your friend
you can't put you know, I I

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still have nothing to say on
that.

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It's just I was screaming no
when he when Dougal say come on

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and Merton got on that horse.
Well, you know, I was I.

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Said when we I was like.
Why would he go with Dougal?

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And then someone commented on
our YouTube and they were like,

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well, remember, Dougal would
know Murtha because Murtha is

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Misfits Givens nephew.
And I was like, yeah, I thought

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about that after we recorded,
but still like almost feel like

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because Murtha is a Fraser by
birth that he would have steered

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clear Dougal.
And Dougal doesn't seem to me

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like the type of person.
Like, I know he probably knows

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who Miss Fitzgibbons is, but
Dougal does not necessarily seem

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to me the type to, like, talk to
the help or pay any attention to

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them.
So I think that's why I was

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surprised when he was speaking
to Mercer.

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Kind of so familiar, you know?
Yeah, I was just like, that's

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weird, but right.
And I mean, you had to do your,

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I mean, your friend did you
wrong.

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However, you didn't have to.
He was like, come on, get on the

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back of the horse, Dougal said.
Come on.

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Or talk, He just said.
Right.

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Do that.
It made me wonder too, 'cause

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you know how we kept saying,
like, you know, did he end up

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just being closer to Ellen and
not to Brian, 'cause he always

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talked about Ellen or whatever
and like, he had already left,

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like, watch my sister and all
this stuff.

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And then then he went with them.
So maybe he did end up being

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closer to them.
Yeah.

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You know, Yeah, at the end.
Could have been.

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And then he was there.
Obviously when Jake, when it

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first starts, he's at Leo, and
so maybe he did end up being

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more close to Mackenzie's.
Yeah, yeah.

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I was screaming for you.
Michelle, though.

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I was screaming for you, girl.
I was.

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You can tell him Mercy when he
hit Brian, I said, yeah, I don't

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know, like that.
Yeah.

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I did.
I mean, it was, it was, it was

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coming.
And he, he deserved every bit of

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it.
He needed actually more.

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Yeah.
But like me and Dana was saying,

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can y'all have this argument
somewhere instead of in front of

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Balik's face?
That is true too, 'cause now you

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you telling all her beats.
And and you know your daddy

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ain't no good.
No, he is not at all, which

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leads us Oh yeah, always saying
and also in that episode, which

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was funny how y'all making a
concoction.

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So that mean was it?
Wait a minute.

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Oh Oh no, it's a concoction.
Oh yes.

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The the, the this, yeah.
The the, the I say they no good,

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I said.
First of all, you didn't stop

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looking at each other 'cause
you're gonna get caught, right?

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I'm at the table like this, like
so what's what is?

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Who cook?
This.

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What's this?
Flavor.

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And you're like, it's I was
good.

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And that was like, you know
what, ladies?

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Yeah.
Instead of doing that, poison

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him to death.
Right.

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Well, no, because you know what?
They're doing it the right way

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because not there's no suspicion
coming on them.

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Like he just think that he just
needs some rejuvenation.

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Right.
And what's going to happen is he

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going to be gone for two days,
right?

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And that stuff gets out his
system.

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He's like I'm good and he come
back home and he not.

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Right, he going to.
Be like, it has to be the home.

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I'll be like, it's the mole on
the walls.

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No, because you know what?
Because you know, back in those

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days they took food with them.
So you know Julia or Miss.

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Sprinkle it.
Sprinkle it all over the food.

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Sprinkle it.
Right.

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Exactly, exactly.
Sprinkle it.

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Yeah, but how do you like the
new little friendship between

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Julia and Miss Porter now?
I really do.

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Like I like it.
I do.

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And I was like OK, I trust her.
Yeah now yeah and stuff I do.

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And now they have a this little
secret cause y'all poisoning

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this man now, Yeah.
Poisoning him, That's just

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giving him a little flavor on
his food.

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They just trying to help him
help him in other ways me.

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Laird I didn't know that it
caused this trouble.

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I just thought it was good.
Cooking.

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Yeah, it was, it was a good
season that other people had

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recommended.
Yeah, yeah.

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There you go.
There's some Lowry season.

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Salt Lowry.
Yeah.

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OK, so let's get to episode 8
because I hate the 17th century.

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I really.
Yeah, yeah, this episode was

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tough to watch, but there also
there, there were so many, like,

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there's some weird
contradictions in here because,

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OK, the the way the episode
starts out, you know, they're

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laying out the tools and I'm
really sitting here looking like

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what?
I'm like Dougal, what the hell

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is this for?
Like, what do you need all of

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this stuff for?
Like I understand a speculum,

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but are the men of that time
like so out of touch with

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women's bodies that you think
you got to have all of this

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stuff?
Like one of them almost like was

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a iron hammer.
Like what you hammering?

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What are you hammering?
What are you?

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Saying you said do that, What
kind of?

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Crazy stuff I made-up on pelvis
and but but let's let's think we

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trying to keep her intact, not
destroy her before she even get

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married and that's.
What we were saying it's like

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those kind of tests.
So how exactly are you supposed

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to tell?
What will we found out in this

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episode?
But before I was like, so how

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are you going to check if her
hymen is intact?

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Like, are you going to go in and
break it to find it?

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Right, right.
And we were talking about that.

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That's like the whole comparison
about like, just like the

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witches, you know, oh, we're
going to put this, this 100 LB

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stone on top of you.
If you survive, then you're a

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witch and we're going to kill
you.

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But if you died, then that means
you were innocent and your soul

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is going to heaven.
Excuse me, but I'm dead, right?

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Right.
And so it's just like that.

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OK, so we're going to check to
make sure that you're still a

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virgin and that your quote UN
quote virtue is intact.

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Now, if we see bleeding, oh,
we'll know that your virtue was

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intact and you'll be OK.
I mean, at least her husband is

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there in the room to see the
goddamn test.

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So, so that he can see her
virginity that's so freaking

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important, being taken by a tool
or some other man's.

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But I also like Malcolm Grant at
this time.

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Let's.
Just be real.

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Yeah, but also, and again here
with the contradictions, because

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when Colin and Dougal are
looking at the tools and David

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Beaton is about to explain it,
Colin was like, get the shit out

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my face.
No, we will not be doing this

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right.
It's barbaric.

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But then just as quick, it was
all about not damaging Ellen so

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that he could still sell her off
for marriage.

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Not, not for any concern for his
sister or the fact that they may

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be doing this, you know, maybe
prematurely or maybe on some

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false information.
Like he had no concern about his

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sister as a person, just that I
can't give the Grants a dead

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bride.
Right.

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But the only person who was
concerned was 1 Malcolm.

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There was actually three people
that were like, this is a little

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shaky.
Malcolm really was.

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That's why I was like, I really
like Malcolm and now I'm feeling

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really bad for him.
Yeah, I do feel bad.

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'Cause he do care for her.
He didn't want her to have to go

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through this.
He not even questioning trust

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her.
He trusts her.

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Yeah, he does.
He shouldn't just be honest.

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OK, I mean, let's, let's before
we before we hype this up now

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and and and she's not innocent,
so you know, yeah, I was going

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to say he is not a fool.
He is believing exactly the look

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she is.
She has been sending her

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representative out this entire
time and he believes exactly

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what that representative is
showing him.

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So he's not.
He a fool because he can't tell

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that woman don't have no kind of
designs on him at all.

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She ain't wearing her face.
Look, giggles and.

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Kisses, but the way she but even
at the end, at the end when she

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looked at him, she smiled, gave
him that nice look.

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He believes that.
Yeah, I I will say that for

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Ellen, Ellen is playing her
part.

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Right, but at this point too,
when it gets down to you may

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die, I am innocent.
I am pure as No, he's truly in

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love with her.
And he's, he's been in love with

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her clearly since they were
kids.

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Like he's keeps bringing that up
about that.

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And for him, he he's in love
with who he thinks she is.

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Yeah, 'cause he liked it from a
child and he.

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So he doesn't even know her.
But I mean, that's what that's

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what I was saying earlier in the
season about all of these

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couplings.
Like you meet someone for 5

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minutes and all of a sudden you
so in love that you that that

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you're not even going to tell
your best friend who been your

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brother since birth.
So that's what I was saying.

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Like I understand lest at first
sight I understand having a

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strong attraction, but you
literally met this girl for a

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few minutes and then you met her
at the bridge and find out that

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y'all's families are enemies and
y'all like we don't care.

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We want to be together we and
look, but again, 1700s they do

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things differently.
I guess at some point, if I feel

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that kind of attraction to
somebody, I would rather that be

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my decision than for somebody
like my brother call him to say,

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oh, you going to go marry this
dude and then Google on the

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other side will say, well, if
that don't work out, I got to do

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it over here for you to girl.
Can we not?

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Can we not that's But when I say
the preparations this girl had

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to go through for this test,
First of all, this test is so

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invasive even without them doing
the majority of what I thought

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they was going to do to this
girl.

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But right, just the fact she has
the prep, she has to put her

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body through all these paces.
She got to drink all that water

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to make sure her piss is not
cloudy, and then she's got to

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hold her pee because I don't
know.

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I guess they don't know about
kegel exercises back then.

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But they're like, OK, you got to
hold your water until we tell

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you to release what?
And it's funny and then you got

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to go in with that barbaric as
speculum and and and and feel

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for what I was just like, you
know what, 1700s man, I again, I

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will reiterate, it could not be
me.

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Yeah.
Could not be me, but I.

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Want to go to a doctor now?
No.

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And that's horrible, right?
But the the.

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But I love that everyone, every
woman work together in this

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mission to help in this 'cause.
Everybody was like, Julia was

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like, oh, yeah, I can help you,
Brian, because Brian, once he

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finds out, because of course,
his father is like, gloating.

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Oh, yeah.
Thank you for the flowering.

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The Mackenzie girl.
Now she's going to be tested.

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And Brian is sitting here like
Dad, I like really care about

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her.
He was like, whatever, whatever

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we are, we are half assed.
That ain't going to mean nothing

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because the the Mackenzie's
ain't going to care.

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They they might kill you if you
go there and tell her, please,

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why don't you go on and do that
if you really love her enough.

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I was like, you know what, this
motherfucker, I hope he goes

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into that spring and he falls in
and drowns.

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But we know that doesn't happen
happen.

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I hope that's.
Not the case because he has a

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younger Simon Fraser in the in
the original show that we meet.

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This like 16-17 at the time so
so he's still doing this yeah

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he's still doing this but but
yeah, I do like that and it was

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funny how he's giving kept
giving her all that water and I

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was like why are you giving her
that water but then I realized

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oh she got to pee clear but also
holds her pee but you gave her

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all this water so now she.
Got and he made her drink a

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diuretic to force her to have to
pee and she still had to hold

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it.
She was over there.

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She was over there.
She held that.

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And the only reason she was able
to help that because she didn't

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have kids yet.
Because trust me, after kids,

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you'd be like, I'm done.
I'm done.

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She was already kind of dancing
over there, like, right.

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I was like how long this?
Going this how long this going

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to be?
She's going to start twerking in

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a minute.
Like I can't I know right, But I

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wonder how long they made her
hold that like OK, so not only

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are you adding insult to injury,
you going to give her a bladder

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infection.
Why you trying to prove her her

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right?
Really, that's what we doing.

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'Cause miss miss miss was like.
Pork.

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Pork she was.
Like.

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Ellen was like, OK, she said.
Wait, I thought I had to make

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water, she said.
You're gonna have to make water,

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but you gotta hold it first.
Hold it first.

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You, you could have told me this
before you.

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Yeah, but it got to be clear,
too.

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So she had to get all that
water.

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She had to get all that water.
'Cause if you just been drinking

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wine and milk, girl you, you
messed up.

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Right.
But then this is and then I had

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a stupid, like really horrible
thought when she was peeing.

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I was like, but what if she was
like at the beginning or end of

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her cycle?
Then it ain't gonna be freaking

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clear.
That would been unfair.

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But at least that way they would
have been like, oh, your flowers

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have bloomed.
So obviously, you know, I, I

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don't know.
And that's what, so that's what

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I was also wondering like how
long was all this taking?

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Because I was like, at some
point she had to have her period

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at some point.
And so, you know, so they must

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have really did this really fast
because I feel like she should

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have had her period at some
point in this time.

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She probably had, but that
don't.

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That is not to say that you a
virgin anymore, right?

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That's true.
That's true.

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But she's at least not pregnant.
So it didn't come like whatever

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she was doing didn't.
Yeah, but they needed to know

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that she wasn't even doing that.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
So it's like, oh, my goodness.

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So I'm thinking, man, it may not
been clear.

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Yeah, and it really was kind of
dark.

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I don't know, I guess it's
'cause of the lighting.

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I was like that.
Don't look.

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That's what I thought too.
And then?

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I thought I did like this and I
was like, oh, OK, you can kind

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of see this clear, but I was
just like, and and even with the

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the explanation Misfits was
giving her, Ellen was like,

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wait, so sometimes they find a
Chase girl guilty.

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She was like, yeah, it happens.
What?

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What?
And, you know, because men

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didn't like to be contradicted,
they weren't going to say they

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made a mistake.
Yeah, you know they're not, but

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I like how who said it where
hopefully I think Fitzgibbon

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said that I hopefully when this
is over that she will forgive

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you guys.
Oh no, that was Ned.

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That was Ned said that OK, I
couldn't remember said and that

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was so true.
Like what you doing right now?

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You know if if we are completely
wrong here, I hope she forgives

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us.
And again, disclaimer everybody

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is correct though.
But however.

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But you know what?
For all his.

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Purposes she needed her to be
innocent today, but she she just

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happens to be in love with right
Yeah, she married OK, but right.

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But I love it when he said let
me go get my rescue my wife.

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Oh, OK.
I loved it.

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I was like, girl, Brian, you go.
Brian, I love it.

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However, the girl sweating
bullets over here.

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Yeah.
And see, that's another reason

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why I was wondering like about
the time period because they had

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time to concoct and do all this
stuff and get there before I was

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started.
Well, here's the thing.

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So.
So that was the very convenient

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thing because Malcolm Grant's
carriage the the world or

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something.
So yeah, that that helped Julia

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and Brian out a lot because
because had that not happened,

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they wouldn't have made it in
time.

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But of course.
OK, so this is the thing that

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was kind of sort of, I think the
only thing that I found

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questionable is because all of a
sudden Julia knows how to do

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this.
Like she knows how to make this

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this little concoction that's
going to, I, I don't know, put a

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barrier.
And I, I was just like, how, how

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would you know how to do that?
I think it's because she she was

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already interested in going to
college, because the way she

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said about the book, like she
read it in the tone or whatever,

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that was this old Angel.
I think she was already just

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that nerdy girl who used to read
for no reason.

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And just remember that this was
a thing because the way she said

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it was like, I read, I read this
in a book.

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It's ancient, ancient years ago
book or whatever.

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And I was like, oh, this.
She must have saw this back in

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her day.
And I, and I think what it

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actually did was it's what they
sell at the.

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Passionate pink parties.
Is that tightener the tightener,

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Right.
Oh, OK.

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It tightened things down there
because it was like the vinegar

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and the salt and all the brown
Yeah, it just shrink the area.

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So that's why I was extremely
uncomfortable for her.

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Like, it just shrunk it up.
Yeah, but also.

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Too the again, we're talking.
We don't know how, we don't know

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when this.
I mean, obviously some weeks

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have passed because when they
went to Beltane, Julia was still

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pregnant.
She wasn't quite due yet and

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then she had the baby.
So it's got to be at least a few

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weeks.
So she's only had sex the one

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time so she's going to be tight
again.

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Right, she will be, but that you
know that they will try to make

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sure that it was extra just in
case you know what I'm saying.

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We we try to do our best here.
I know, but this this whole

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thing like this is one of those
shows that you you see all of

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the uncomfortableness of the
stuff that they used to do and I

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know there's some people who
like what they took too long.

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I didn't want to see all that.
No, we to see what we look, as

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much as we complain about the
state of things today and where

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things are with us, at least
we're not doing that.

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Yeah, at least we're not doing
that.

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So we that that to me is just a
reminder to be just a little bit

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grateful because we have come at
least some part of the way.

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Now.
We still you know right, We have

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control over our bodies and all
this other stuff, but it ain't

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like that right and then it's
like y'all travel by horse

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everywhere right and that that's
what Dina was saying in the last

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episode when we when we talked
about it with that it's like

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there's so many reasons why that
may happen to a woman where her

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heart like riding a horse
accident.

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What just a a tampon.
I mean let's just be honest,

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there's so many ways that that
could go wrong.

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So you know, so but I it's just
17th century because I tell you,

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somebody does it.
Now we want to touch punch him

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in the face and be done with it.
But we have to be a little bit

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thankful.
Oh, for this, for the yes, we

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are.
Because again, Brian is on his

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way.
He's got to go rescue his wife.

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Julia offers to go with him.
And Julia is in this like Brian

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is trying to tell her, no, my
father's going to be gone for

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two days.
You need to take the baby and go

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to Castle Grant because again,
she has found out that Henry is

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at the Grants, right, Julia?
And I will say this again, I'm a

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I'm ride or die for Julia and
Brian and and this friendship.

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I love it because they stay up
at night and talk.

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You know they do.
The reason why they do is she

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found out when she was with the
dad and then the next time they

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talking they talking about it
and and mom is like what are

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y'all talking about?
Her husband is at the Grants.

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Yeah.
I'm like, did you leave his room

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and be like, come on, Brian, I
need to talk outside.

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Let's take a smoke.
You know what, Whatever they do,

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I'm here for it because that's
like, like that's the brother

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sister relationship.
I'm like, yeah, I love it, I'm

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here for it.
And when he gave her the

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opportunity, he was like, OK, so
council leak is this way,

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Council grant is that way.
You need to go to the grants,

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which I guess Brian wasn't
really thinking about the fact

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that if Ellen's virtue was going
to be in question, that the

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grants would be there, but he
probably thought, OK, maybe it

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will be the older grant.
Yeah.

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I don't think he was thinking
about that, but it's kind of

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like, Oh well, you know, they
should be there.

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So it would have been natural
for her to go, but she was like,

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no, I at least I know where he
is now.

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I need to go help you save her
life.

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That's more important.
She was like, cuz I can't go to

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my husband if I think that one
or both of you are going to end

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up dead.
And that was a very real

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possibility, Yeah.
I didn't think that was weird

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that she didn't say, well he is
the Grant's bladier, so he would

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be traveling with the Laird.
But she probably wouldn't know

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that the grand, she would know
that to be present for that

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because I mean, we know about
the barbarism in that.

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But who really is going to sit
here and think, oh, OK, well,

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they're going to test to see if
she's a virgin.

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They're going to have all the
men in the room.

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All the men, all the.
Men she probably wouldn't think

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that, but I mean they literally
had column Dougal Ned all of

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them and mouth don't turn your
back right and OK, so I know we

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had moved forward past that.
That's another issue I have.

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Like you want her to have some
virtue, but you got her doing

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this in front of her future
husband.

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Other men.
It is no privacy again if you

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have her future husband, a
representative from your house,

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your brother who's her choosing
and her handmaid.

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But not every last man the
bodyguard.

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But you know, a woman's dignity
is nothing to them in this time.

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Yeah, but you, you, you.
But you giving away your sister,

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her husband.
Husband.

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You don't want to see her, not
her dignity.

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Right.
Yes, right.

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And then she got to pee in front
of everybody.

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Oh my God, I I was like, it's
like, I hear she's just

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squatting and you just hear all
this and this is like.

445
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,920
And to me, I feel like Dougal,
the look on Dougal was like,

446
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,880
well Dang, she pee longer than
that dude.

447
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:05,160
Well you know what?
Y'all made her drink all that

448
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,880
water, made her drink a
diarrhea, then you made her hold

449
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,600
it for who knows how long.
Yeah, she couldn't, like, clean

450
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,600
herself or nothing.
Nothing just goes in and I'm

451
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,440
just like oh.
God, and, and I'm again, I'm,

452
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,200
I'm too much of A realist.
I'm like, can I get some, some

453
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,960
toilet paper?
Because I will be leaking over

454
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,360
here.
You can't.

455
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,720
Even have toilet paper in this
time because we've we've seen

456
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,920
Lord Lovett get on the toilet
and take a shit and get up and

457
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,400
just.
Get a cloth though.

458
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,560
Do I have to be leaking by the
the fireplace?

459
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,840
Can I get a?
So disgusting and horrible.

460
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,800
OK, OK, I'm good.
That's the last bit of what I

461
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,840
had left on that.
And I was like, there's too many

462
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,080
people in this room here, too
many people, too many people.

463
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:49,720
And we even just just turn.
I'm I'm.

464
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,600
OK, if you y'all turn y'all back
while he performing, I know he

465
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,200
performing it's gotta watch it,
but you have.

466
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,520
Someone touching her intimately
that she don't even know.

467
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,640
That she doesn't know when you
have a doctor.

468
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,000
And why do they need the priest
to repeat what the doctor said?

469
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,600
Why do they need the priest to
proclaim?

470
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:18,760
That's what.
You see what my screen name

471
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,800
says, right?
17th century sucks.

472
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,040
That's all there is to it.
In my hair you will die.

473
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,960
Because that's the look she
gave.

474
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,600
And she walked by to her
brother.

475
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,880
No, she gave Malcolm.
She gave Malcolm a nice little

476
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,720
smile.
Hey Boo, still love you maybe.

477
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,960
I don't know, 'cause I, I think,
I really think that smile was

478
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,320
her.
I don't know, I feel like she's

479
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,160
going to use that to be like,
yeah I don't want to get married

480
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,000
to you now because y'all didn't
trust me blah blah blah blah.

481
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,840
But see, here's the thing, what
got saved him was he went and

482
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,240
said that he didn't really want
this to happen.

483
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,720
So that's why she kind of she
she gave him that look that

484
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,960
makes him feel better inside
stringing him along.

485
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,400
But then that term that look at
her brothers like I will get

486
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,320
y'all.
Right.

487
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,520
Given she.
And and and she should.

488
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,040
She shouldn't.
Even though they alright, she

489
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,040
should.
That's her business.

490
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,000
Get out her pants.
She should get out her pants.

491
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:25,320
Leave her.
Alone be gone with you.

492
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,280
Nasty buggers.
But in the midst of all this,

493
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,400
Henry, Henry is sowing the seeds
of distrust in the Grant

494
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,560
household because of course, the
older and as we stated, the

495
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,360
older Grant, Isaac, he's at home
sick now, decided, OK, I'm going

496
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,920
to come and I'm going to oversee
this and whatever, whatever,

497
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,720
because this is my bride.
So I want to, you know, make

498
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,560
sure that she is treated with
some dignity, which he did try

499
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,520
to ensure.
I will give him that.

500
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,320
And Henry, of course, is looking
at all this like, this is some

501
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,360
barbaric shit.
She was like, OK, I get your

502
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,560
what your dad is trying to do,
but at some point, you're going

503
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,960
to have to make your own
decisions.

504
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,360
And Malcolm Grant was like, I am
my own man.

505
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,120
He was like, yeah, but.
I know, but you're.

506
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Doing your daddy's stuff, but at
some point you're going to have

507
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,120
to come through and, and that
that's going to mean breaking,

508
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,080
breaking off some stuff.
And they both look at Arch Bug

509
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,640
because I'm Arch Bug, you know,
fucking nerves now.

510
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,720
So I was like, OK, Henry sowing
the seeds of distress.

511
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,200
Because Henry is probably like,
if I have to stay here, I would

512
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,840
rather work for Malcolm than for
right, You know, Which I don't

513
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,920
blame him 'cause I think he's a,
he's a old tough, no nonsense.

514
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,920
Islander like he's, you know.
Malcolm has a little bit more

515
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,280
compassion.
Malcolm has a little bit more,

516
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,880
you know, he's he's just a
little bit better human being.

517
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:02,800
But while they're there, you
know, Henry is looking around.

518
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,720
He he has a near miss with Julia
because she's walking down the

519
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,040
hall at this point.
She is snuck into LYAC.

520
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,480
She's trying to go to Ellen's
room to give her this

521
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,720
conclusion.
And she sees a glimpse of her.

522
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,400
And he was and he thinks that
he's just, you know, seeing

523
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,280
things.
Julia doesn't see him because

524
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,880
she's so focused on what she's
supposed to do, which is good

525
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,800
because if she's seeing Henry
right then and there.

526
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,440
That everything would have been
a disaster, but it was just so

527
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,320
hard.
It was just so heartbreaking

528
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,840
because he just thought he was
losing it again that.

529
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,000
Oh, man, that was hard.
Yeah, because he already lost

530
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,680
it.
And now I'm getting confused of

531
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,760
episodes since I watched 7 and 8
together.

532
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,720
And then he lost it with, you
know, substitute Julia.

533
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,560
I will call her.
No, Substitute Julia 6.

534
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,240
And then last episode was when
he went and told her he was

535
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,640
like, look, I don't want you to
be hurt.

536
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,520
Look, that was.
Yeah.

537
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,400
But when he broke down because
he got the necklace back, that's

538
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,640
what I'm saying with Substitute
Julia.

539
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,680
And it was.
That was heartbreaking.

540
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,240
And then to see him in there
like I'm.

541
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,600
Seeing the ghosts, I'm trapping
her.

542
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,400
No.
Important thing to me.

543
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,480
Right because I was sitting here
watching this and when when he

544
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,600
got ready to leave I said you
know what, if y'all give us this

545
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,040
close of a near miss and they
don't see each other, I'm going

546
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,480
to throw something at my tvi was
so ready to be mad and then when

547
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,200
she saw him she was like Henry.
He turned around and looked at

548
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,480
her.
And one of the things that I

549
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,320
love about it because you would
expect that they would run to

550
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,000
each other.
I love the fact that she kind of

551
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,560
held back because she's familiar
with his PTSD.

552
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,880
And how do I react to stuff?
So I love the fact that even

553
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,800
when they were alone, she waited
for him to come to her.

554
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,080
You know, even though, you know,
she was itching, she was like,

555
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,320
Oh my God, I need you.
I need to grab you.

556
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,000
She stood there so still and he
was just sitting there.

557
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,160
And you could tell by the look
on his face he was he was close

558
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,000
to breaking down again.
He was like, you can't be real.

559
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,120
When he touched her face and she
closed her eyes, I burst into

560
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,080
tears.
I was like.

561
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,800
And then he was so like the, the
fact that she was like, let's go

562
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,520
here, let's go hide down here
and talk because she already

563
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,600
knew that they didn't need to be
seen together.

564
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,680
For whatever reason, they didn't
she.

565
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,400
Ain't supposed to be in the
castle.

566
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,360
Right.
That part was she was.

567
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,360
She needed to get close to her
exit, right?

568
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,480
Yeah.
Let's start with that.

569
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,760
But I I just, I found and then I
was screaming bow F in time.

570
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,640
Finally.
Finally.

571
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,760
Because he was still thinking.
He was like, you can't be real.

572
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,360
And she was like, hope springs
eternal.

573
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,320
Yes, yes.
I was so happy.

574
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,960
I was like, thank you for not
waiting until the 10th episode.

575
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,960
Because now we have it that
they're together.

576
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,680
They just got to figure out how
to get back together.

577
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,200
And I'm OK with that because
they now know that each of them

578
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,560
are alive.
Now they're going to have a nice

579
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,840
evening of talking when they do
get together because they have

580
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,120
done some things, but there's
some.

581
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,600
But you know what?
They've been apart for almost a

582
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,320
year.
They've been trying to survive.

583
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,160
So I get, we get it right?
Oh, wait.

584
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,640
We get it, slept with her
because you had a mental break

585
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,280
and you thought it was me.
Yeah.

586
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,080
Oh yeah, I got you because
someone told you I was dead.

587
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,360
Not only me.
Yeah.

588
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,520
And our baby.
And yeah.

589
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,760
And you had to go sleep with the
lair because you don't want him

590
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,160
to kill the baby or he.
Oh, OK.

591
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,480
You know what?
We're good.

592
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,200
We're good.
Now let's figure out how to get

593
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,200
the hell back to our daughter.
Thank you.

594
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,160
Yeah.
Yeah.

595
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,080
'Cause that just reminds me of
like when Claire had to do that

596
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,120
for it with the king or whatever
and friends, you know, Jamie was

597
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,920
like. 2 Pump, Louie.
You had to do what you had to

598
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,440
do, you know, to get what you
know.

599
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,200
I mean, 'cause what?
What does it matter?

600
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,560
Jamie was still being the
Bastille to this day.

601
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:19,040
Yeah, yeah.
But I love it how it's it's so

602
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,320
cute.
It's not cute.

603
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:26,920
I just love how Julia was
helping Brian and Ellen, but you

604
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:32,040
really helping your daughters
husband's parents so they they

605
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,159
could be together so they can
have they son who will later

606
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:41,080
married, married to your child.
So you will send all the way

607
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,600
back here to make sure they love
make it 'cause they don't.

608
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,080
Let's just say they ain't paying
attention to nobody else but

609
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,320
themselves.
So they have you got to go

610
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,960
through all this just to get
your your daughter's husband,

611
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,160
family together.
Yeah, but I'm so glad, like,

612
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,440
Henry, at this point, the first
time that he sees Julia and he

613
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,000
thinks he's losing his mind, he
goes to have a talk with Ned

614
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,560
Gowen.
And he was like, look, I need

615
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,360
you to help me.
He was like, the longer I stay

616
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,400
here, the worse I'm going to
get.

617
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,560
I need to get out of here.
I need to leave the Grants.

618
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,560
I need you to help me.
Like he was talking about

619
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,200
leaving then.
If he had done that, he would

620
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,080
not have known that Julia was
alive.

621
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:28,560
So thank thank goodness for Ned
Gowen and that bromance and that

622
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,720
friendship because Ned was the
one who was talking since look,

623
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:36,160
don't do anything rash because
they will chase you to the ends

624
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,040
of they will kill.
You, which is crazy to me.

625
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,200
It's a job.
It's not why I got to stay

626
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,640
forever, I mean.
But I mean, if you think about

627
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,160
it, he probably knows things
that they've done that, you

628
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,680
know, it's like like being in
the mall but still in no time

629
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,320
where I can move, I mean.
Right.

630
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,040
I might want to go to a
different country.

631
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,120
You.
Literally saw them murder the

632
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,320
guy whose job whose job you
took.

633
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,160
So yeah, no, you you can
implicate them in some things.

634
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,960
And I'm like, I'm like, I'm, I'm
like, Henry, What?

635
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,720
Can I just go get some air,
right.

636
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,880
I just want you got to be off my
back.

637
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,720
Why you got to be on my back?
Because Arch bug is an ass.

638
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,800
I mean like, why?
You down here?

639
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,440
I mean, he was like, I saw a
ghost, OK.

640
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,400
I thought I saw my wife, right?
Like arch bug also like that.

641
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,800
That's what about that last
episode that annoyed me when he

642
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,000
did find him on his way to crack
the dune.

643
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,400
It's like we was just running
from the British because they

644
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,040
were arresting Jacobites.
How did you manage to get a

645
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,480
posse together to come try fire
me?

646
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,360
Right, right.
Freaking.

647
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,480
Arch bug, don't want nobody.
Happy.

648
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,840
But you know the thing when
Henry turned around, when Arch

649
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,600
Bug came downstairs and he asked
him and he was like, what are

650
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,160
you doing?
That he he said, I thought I saw

651
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,880
my you know, I thought I saw my
wife.

652
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,440
Oh, so you chasing ghosts again?
That look on Henry's face was

653
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,840
Henry realizing that Arch Bug
has something to do with that

654
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,000
lie that was told to him.
That's I that's what I think.

655
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,760
Because that's why he turned
around and he was like, yeah, I

656
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,320
guess.
And he was smiling the entire

657
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,800
way out.
He was like, Yep, my wife is

658
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,200
alive.
I'm about to find a way to get

659
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,280
out of this.
Yeah, I'm good.

660
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,680
I'm good.
Y'all they got to see depressed

661
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,280
me No more.
No, you know what?

662
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,080
You're right.
You're right, Mr. Bugg.

663
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,640
My wife is gone.
My child is gone.

664
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,640
It's time for me to move on.
Move on.

665
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:38,880
Yeah, because I also wonder if,
you know, he does actually

666
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,160
realize that some some something
was a mess because she just

667
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,120
wired up running around in other
people's the baby find

668
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,240
everything good looking nice and
healthy that something was good.

669
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,560
Yeah, yeah.
Especially when Brian after

670
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,920
you're fine.
Look, especially when Brian

671
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,840
comes in and the and the thing
that you tell Brian is

672
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,880
everything is, well, they found
her.

673
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,760
They found her intact or they
found her not guilty.

674
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,800
Henry was like, hold up, who is
this?

675
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,240
So at some point you realize
he's going to have divided

676
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:14,080
loyalties because I think he
does care about Malcolm Grant as

677
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,720
a person, you know, and he's
like, OK, I want you to have

678
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,240
this.
But then if he realizes, Oh, my

679
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:23,120
wife has been helping this dude
who is actually in love with

680
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,840
Ellen and this is, he's going to
have a conflict.

681
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,920
Right there.
So of course that's probably

682
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,320
going to lend to some drama.
But well, maybe he convinced

683
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,720
Malcolm that as a decent
indecency, this woman doesn't

684
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,200
want to marry you and her family
is forcing, so she's doing what

685
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,480
she has to do.
So maybe he he, maybe he's the

686
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,640
one that turns things around
where Malcolm ends up being the

687
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,280
family friend, and that's.
How?

688
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,120
That's how Jamie got the middle
name Malcolm.

689
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,400
Is that OK?
Because that's also another

690
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,160
thing because I had forgot his
name was Malcolm also, and when

691
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,640
he was given his full name to
Claire for the first time and I

692
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,640
was like Malcolm Mackenzie
crazy.

693
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,160
Because also that that same
Malcolm was one of the people

694
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,520
like we were talking about that
soul to go with with Arch Bug

695
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,600
and what you call it.
Yeah.

696
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,520
So he definitely lives on a long
time or whatever.

697
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:24,240
And, you know, so maybe they end
up friends, maybe he loves her

698
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,920
just that much, where he just
like, OK.

699
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,520
Yeah, could be.
I don't, I don't know.

700
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:36,200
But yeah, we needed that reunion
because when I say like the

701
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,800
tension was getting to be too
much and then all the near

702
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,560
misses, I was like, if y'all
yeah, we don't get this episode

703
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,120
and we don't get a reunion.
I'm throwing something at the

704
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,480
TV.
I was ready.

705
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,440
I had I literally had something
next to me.

706
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,600
I was like, come on, do it, do
it, do it, do it.

707
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,040
I dare you.
She, she saw him and he turned

708
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,400
around, looked at her and she's
looking at him like come on,

709
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,720
come on, come on.
And he's looking at her like,

710
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,240
OK, you know what?
That's probably a ghost, but I'm

711
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,760
going to follow her because
she's telling me to come.

712
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,400
Hey, I'd rather be with a ghost,
you know what I'm saying?

713
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,440
He could have easily looked at
her and been like, no, you're

714
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,520
not real and turn back around.
He could have easily done that.

715
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,640
Thought his mind was playing
tricks on him.

716
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,520
He was like, Nope, I got to go
check this out.

717
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,920
Even if it is, you know, I don't
know if she vanishes into thin

718
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,480
air or whatever.
I, I just, I, I got to check it

719
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,960
out.
And that reunion was so sweet,

720
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,120
so sweet.
And then Brian was like, hold

721
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,680
up, is this?
And she was like, Yep, this.

722
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,240
My husband Brian was like, how
the heck.

723
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,960
OK, I'm glad you came with me
now.

724
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,720
So I'm glad when he says when
she's like, OK, I have to go

725
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:53,080
back.
We have to like get together

726
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,920
later, that he didn't push it.
He was just like trusting, like

727
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,400
she knows what she's talking
about because I hate when people

728
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,320
do that.
I'm telling you we got to

729
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,280
separate.
Don't keep asking me questions.

730
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,120
I'll tell you later.
You know what I mean?

731
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,240
Like, yeah, it was.
It was.

732
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,800
Good, because she was like,
don't come looking for me, it's

733
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,960
not safe.
It's not safe.

734
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,920
But also to it, what would have
happened if Arch Bug had found

735
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:25,960
her there?
Yeah, yeah, he would have either

736
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,880
he would have either tried to
steal her and and take her with

737
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,880
them, which she probably would
have been like, oh, excuse me, I

738
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:38,040
got to go back and get my baby.
But I I just don't see that

739
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,280
having a good outcome if Arch
bug actually had found her, not

740
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,360
not to mention Brian.
I mean, it's bad enough Misfit

741
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,840
scared the shit out of me when
she grabbed them before they

742
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:54,160
would leave.
And because I thought it was, I

743
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,320
thought it was Arch.
I thought it was Dougal.

744
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,000
I was like, I was prepared for
it to be a full-fledged fight,

745
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,360
but it was it was misfits, thank
goodness.

746
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,360
And she was like, look, I
appreciate what you just did for

747
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,280
my lady, but if you really love
her, you really care for her,

748
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,360
Don't don't you bring your ass
back.

749
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,560
Take this tartan and go.
We don't want to see hide nor

750
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,640
hair of a Fraser.
And the fact that she thought

751
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,800
that it was Murta, I was like,
you know what?

752
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,680
You should know that Murta
wouldn't do something like that.

753
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,680
But she also knew that Mercer
was in love with.

754
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,560
Ryan, she was like, I didn't
think you paid him any

755
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,920
attention.
This is weird.

756
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,200
Right, right, right.
And she was like, it's not him.

757
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,040
He stepped up at.
Some kids, they came to.

758
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,520
My grave, I mean.
And then I start and then I'll

759
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,400
be like her.
Like I hope it's not his.

760
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,160
His uncle.
Oh, that's disgusting.

761
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,040
He will take his name to the
grave.

762
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,440
You can tell me, honey.
So it must be really bad.

763
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,600
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, in the grand

764
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:04,480
scheme of things, Brian, like
Brian is probably the worst pick

765
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,040
for her because he's the
bastard.

766
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,360
Yeah.
So.

767
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,600
Yeah.
So Miss Pitts probably didn't

768
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,720
even think about that because
you are basically you're the

769
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:17,680
Princess of Clare McKenzie.
Why you?

770
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,680
Yeah, she probably didn't think
that.

771
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,320
Yeah.
But Oh my goodness, She she

772
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,320
look, she's, she's over here
doing her little dance now, her

773
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,280
little pee pee dance.
Her pee dance.

774
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,880
Yeah, I just passed that.
Now I'm on Julia and Henry.

775
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:39,400
Hope springs eternal.
Yeah, but this little face, let

776
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:47,760
me tell you, Dougal and Column.
I mean, I, I'm kind of worried

777
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,000
about the fact that Dougal
didn't say anything.

778
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,800
But I know what I know what was
at stake, so I know why he

779
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,800
didn't say anything.
But I also think he likes the he

780
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,080
loves the fact that he knows
something about Ellen that

781
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,000
Column doesn't because Column
and Ellen were the ones who were

782
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,800
close.
He was like, don't, don't she

783
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,120
talk to you.
And Column is like, he hasn't

784
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,120
been the same between us since
our patrol.

785
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,280
Oh, I wonder why?
Yeah, 'cause you're selling her

786
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,000
like a broodmare.
You're selling her like a just a

787
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,440
object.
Why would she confide in 'cause

788
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,720
you obviously don't think of her
as a person.

789
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,880
What was it now was saying to
them?

790
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,520
Because Column was talking about
Jacosta, because he went to ask

791
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,840
me.
He was like, so she wasn't out

792
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,520
of your sight at all at Belton.
He was like, well, yeah, she

793
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,920
went to the fertility blessings,
but she was with Jacosta.

794
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,520
And.
And Column said, well, misery

795
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,960
loves company and Jacosta
wouldn't do anything to

796
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,880
jeopardize Ellen because she
knows the prospect of marriage

797
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,640
will make her sister miserable.
And Neil was like, there is no

798
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,880
love lost between any of y'all.
Column is like, what does love

799
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,160
have to do with it?
And I know Neil was like, you

800
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,360
know what?
And I'm going to tell you what

801
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,600
it has to do with it.
If your father had some for

802
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,800
y'all, y'all wouldn't be in this
fucking mess.

803
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,880
Yep, basically.
But that is.

804
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,360
It is funny though, that as soon
as he heard that she was with

805
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,120
Jacosta, he already knew.
Jacosta was go dive her ass

806
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,840
right?
They were together, nothing

807
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,000
happened.
Jacosta ain't gonna let nothing

808
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,400
happen because she wants to see
Ellen miserable.

809
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,680
Like what is wrong with y'all?
Yeah.

810
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,120
But that's how you know Ellen is
so freaking smart.

811
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,400
Because she knew exactly how to
get Jacosta on her side, her

812
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,400
mortal enemy.
She knew how to get her on her

813
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,600
side.
Yeah, and it.

814
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,920
Worked out.
Yeah, you go get you a little

815
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,560
something, something and I won't
tell me.

816
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,840
You just let me go about my
business and you don't tell.

817
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,640
And then she gave her also had
to give her a necklace, but

818
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,920
yeah.
Yeah, well, you know, it's just,

819
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,680
it's a thing.
It's a thing.

820
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,040
Yeah.
Because your life.

821
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,280
Right, because here's the thing,
they may be sibling, there may

822
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,720
be sibling rivalry between them.
But here's the thing, they are

823
00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:06,960
sisters.
They are women.

824
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,000
Yeah, they know.
They're like, oh, OK, you know

825
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,520
what?
We're oppressed.

826
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,040
And I think that was what Ellen
said.

827
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,840
So she was like, why do we
always have to be at their whim?

828
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,240
Like we're the ones that are the
so-called prizes.

829
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,280
Why?
Why are they the ones always

830
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,240
having to decide what becomes of
us?

831
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,920
They can't have no babies.
They can't reproduce.

832
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,320
Right.
Right, they would die off if if

833
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,760
not for us.
Right.

834
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,640
So, yeah, I, I when he said
that, he was like, oh, OK, she

835
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,240
was with Jacosta.
I ain't worried about nothing.

836
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,720
You know what?
You're an idiot.

837
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:51,840
Column I mean, I just, I, I'm
like Ned, like y'all.

838
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,840
Y'all are just horrible to each
other just for no damn reason

839
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,880
basically.
Basically.

840
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,920
Oh but yeah, this man, let me
tell you, I was so glad when

841
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,000
they got finished with this
examination.

842
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,800
I was like, you know what?
Now that I've seen it, I don't

843
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,400
need to see it ever again.
Yeah, I don't need to do

844
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,040
anything like this again.
But yeah, the look she has on

845
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,280
her face right now, she's
walking past.

846
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,920
Yeah, I'm telling you like they
better keep one eye open when

847
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,520
they sleep.
They better.

848
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,520
Like I'm I'm looking at.
They better 'cause you know Red

849
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,840
Jacob taught her how to fight.
You know he did.

850
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,520
She probably knows how to carry
a sword.

851
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:42,560
She probably knows right column.
Look, she going to go in there

852
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,760
and break them legs again.
I was.

853
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,240
Just I was just about to say
trip his last get on.

854
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,160
The floor.
You ain't going to be able to

855
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,480
get up.
That's yeah.

856
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:57,720
But I'm I am kind of worried
about what Douga is going to do

857
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:02,880
with that knowledge, because
Douga know who she's interested

858
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,680
in if you know nothing else.
But yeah, she she just didn't

859
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,840
after that look, she was just
like she's looking at her

860
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,200
brothers like she don't kill it
like you motherfucks.

861
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,200
I do wonder because like me
Outlander, you kind of see how

862
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,800
they have this sense
relationship do in common with

863
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,240
Jamie, but they're still blood,
you know, they're still

864
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:31,160
relatives and they're still
taking care of each other, but

865
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,840
it's still their it's like
thing.

866
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,560
I just wondered, like does does
at some point, Dougal and column

867
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,160
kind of feel guilty 'cause maybe
Ellen died and maybe they feel

868
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,640
like they gotta take care, you
know, 'cause if they say, you

869
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,400
know, they had that whole thing
where, like, Dougal was like,

870
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,760
worried that Jamie was gonna try
to usurp his, his, his being

871
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,080
next in line, right.
But he still, you know, he want,

872
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,080
he want the Red Coast to get
him, you know what I'm saying?

873
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,040
Like he was still very
protective of him.

874
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Yeah.
So, you know, I just wonder

875
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,640
about that like how that trained
to be I was give me more

876
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,000
information.
Yeah, yeah.

877
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,880
But Oh my goodness, just that
that whole family dynamic

878
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,520
because.
Yeah, yeah, like you said, it's

879
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:24,000
weird because especially with
Dougan, I guess, because, I

880
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,040
mean, we see how rash Dougal is
here.

881
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Dougal is always 1.
He is about Scotland.

882
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,560
I will give him that because I
think in the original show we

883
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,040
were looking at it kind of
selfishly, like, OK, he's just

884
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,600
trying to do it for him or
whatever.

885
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,720
No, this is really in Dougal's
blood.

886
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:45,720
Dougal is like, I want Scott.
I want, you know, I want a, a

887
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,760
Jacobite king on the throne.
I will do anything for Scotland.

888
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,480
Whatever.
Damn my family, damn my

889
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,440
reputation.
Like he was really, really

890
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:01,000
hardcore.
So it is interesting to see him

891
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,720
like that.
And then to know the

892
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:06,600
relationship we had with Jamie
because on the one hand, it

893
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,720
really is a love hate
relationship because you can

894
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:12,840
tell he cares about Jamie.
Like, yeah, he he wore, he had

895
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:18,440
him as a ward in his household,
trained him and all this other

896
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,920
stuff.
But then at the same time, he's

897
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,280
so freaking jealous of Jamie.
Yeah.

898
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,280
Very.
And this has to do, I think with

899
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,360
probably the way that Brian and
Ellen raised Jamie, even though

900
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,320
Ellen was gone, I think Jamie
was what, 5 when she died.

901
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:36,480
But the way that he was raised
because Jamie is like, you know

902
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,760
what?
I don't need nothing y'all have

903
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,920
over here.
I have this little piece of

904
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,240
lolly Brock over here.
I have my land.

905
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:45,880
I have, you know, clam fries.
I'm good.

906
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,360
I don't need none of y'all
stuff.

907
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,200
And I think Google, I don't
know, there's something about

908
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:58,240
the way Jamie is free that I
think Dougal was jealous of.

909
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:05,360
Because even though Dougal kind
of operated on his own on the

910
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,920
side or whatever, it's like he
was always under columns, thumb

911
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:16,560
and column.
I will say this too, Column made

912
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,960
Dougal into the beast.
He was, especially in their

913
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,280
older years, that whole thing
when he told Colum that Gaylis

914
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,760
was pregnant.
She's having my band.

915
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,520
And he was like, that's Arthur
Duncan's band, just like Hamish

916
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:38,560
is mine, right?
I was like, you created that

917
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,960
beast.
And again, I'm very interested

918
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,080
to see how that particular thing
came about.

919
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,720
But you created that beast.
But I will say this too, Dougal,

920
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,480
in this younger version of him,
we see how he kind of provoked

921
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,320
Column to do it because he has
so much animosity against

922
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,800
Column.
Why wouldn't Column just kind of

923
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,640
give it back to him?
And then it it's so interesting

924
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,560
because when you when you go
back and you look at the scene

925
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,880
where Column died and Dougal is
just sitting there like really

926
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,440
pouring his heart out, probably
for the first time ever to his

927
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,480
brother.
And and that dude not committed

928
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,520
suicide and died while you're
pouring your heart out because

929
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,080
he don't even want to listen to
what you got to say.

930
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,960
Now.
I was so sad for Dougal in that,

931
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,120
but at the same time looking at
the way they are in this show.

932
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,680
Right, you can't.
I'm just sad you tired.

933
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,720
That's the whole W love got to
do with that it in the end, it's

934
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:46,840
not.
It's got a lot, a lot, but these

935
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,760
folks.
But OK, yay we got we got 1

936
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,440
reunion.
Yay.

937
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,600
Yes, thank you.
Henry and Julia briefly, but at

938
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,280
least they both know that they
are alive.

939
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:03,520
They know what each other is.
Henry knows that he has a baby

940
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,720
named after his grandfather.
Like, I love that, though, those

941
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:10,280
little pieces, because when he
looked at her and saw she wasn't

942
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,960
pregnant, he was like, oh, the
baby, the baby.

943
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,840
And she was like, I named him
William.

944
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,720
Oh, after my grandfather.
I think that was like a further

945
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:20,560
cementing for him, Like, oh,
this is real.

946
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,480
This is real for me.
Because who else would say that

947
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,440
to me?
Like, yeah, so, so, so they know

948
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,920
they're live.
They know they say.

949
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,880
I really hope.
Well, I was going to say, I

950
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:41,560
really hope he doesn't go to
Castle Leathers to try to get

951
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,840
Julia because that means he
would have to go against Lord

952
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,720
Lovett.
But at the same Time, Lord

953
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:53,280
Lovett now is going to fall out
of favor with the Grants because

954
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,160
he was the one that sent the
accusation.

955
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,760
Right, and nothing is wrong with
that and.

956
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,040
Nothing is wrong.
And so he's going to come back

957
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,680
to Brian and be like.
You lied to me.

958
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,520
I thought you had Brown was like
I never told you I slept with

959
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,560
her.
I just said that's my wife.

960
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,480
I mean, we just and not to
mention it's not going to be

961
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,280
Isaac because Isaac did Isaac is
dead.

962
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,560
It's going to be Malcolm and
Malcolm going to be real pissed

963
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:19,800
because not.
Only did.

964
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,880
You do this to her, especially
if it causes her to lose him, to

965
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,520
lose her.
Oh, it's going to be, it's going

966
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,400
to be some stuff.
It's going to be some mess, yes.

967
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,280
So I asked God, why are they
doing this to us?

968
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,880
And they've been that, you know,
they only was on the worst

969
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,760
cliffhanger ever when this show.
In you know this, Yes, yes.

970
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:48,080
But yeah, like you said, Isaac
Grant, they they get up when

971
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,000
they're getting ready to leave
Castle Leoch, a messenger comes,

972
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,920
gives Henry a letter and the
letter states that Isaac Grant

973
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,640
has passed.
And again, that's because Brian

974
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,120
McCarty, the actor who played
him, passed away sometime after

975
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,120
filming Episode 4.
So they did write that into the

976
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:11,880
story, you know?
And so now Malcolm is the head

977
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,600
of the grant.
So now we got to see what he's

978
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,680
going to do with that, how
that's going to change things.

979
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,640
And then like, I wonder, is that
the reason why now?

980
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,920
Like why Archbug ended up
leaving the Grants?

981
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,840
Because Malcolm became head of
the Grants and he was like, you

982
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,880
know what, I don't want to.
Deal probably fired him I.

983
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,400
Was just about to say if I was
Malcolm I.

984
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,800
Would get rid.
I would, I would.

985
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,240
But also, that's the person who
not only knows your dirty

986
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,960
secrets, that's the person who
has done your family's dirty

987
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,920
secrets.
So it might not be that easy to

988
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,200
get rid of him.
Yeah, but I also feel like, you

989
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,280
know, I do feel like Arch Bug is
trifling, but I also kind of

990
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,480
feel like out of respect, 'cause
he, he clearly, I feel like he

991
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:03,720
actually likes Isaac.
Yeah, I feel like he he not

992
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:05,840
looks up to him, but I he
admires, he admires.

993
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,240
Him, yeah.
Told to him so he might not want

994
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:13,400
to like ruin his memory maybe.
But then again, it's arch bug,

995
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,520
he tried to kill a boy because
his wife was stupid.

996
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,320
So I don't know.
I mean try to get Rachel 'cause

997
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:24,480
his wife, so who knows?
Yeah, but.

998
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:33,960
Oh OK, we got 2 episodes left.
I don't even at this point, I

999
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,120
don't even know what I want to
happen in these last two

1000
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,800
episodes because we got the main
thing.

1001
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,360
Henry and Julian know each
other, that they know that

1002
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,040
they're alive.
They know that they're in the

1003
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,800
same time they are literally
like in neighboring castles.

1004
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,720
So OK, we're good on that.
At this point, I don't know what

1005
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:55,040
else can happen in this first
season because again, this is a

1006
00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:01,360
story that we don't really know.
I mean, I I don't know, and I'm

1007
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,000
trying to think, I don't think I
saw the the promos for the next

1008
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,480
episode, so I need to go back
and watch that.

1009
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,400
But have you seen it, Dina?
OK.

1010
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,280
I don't see it.
OK.

1011
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,160
But yeah.
So we have two episodes left for

1012
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,280
season 1.
And then we got a Season 8

1013
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,520
trailer for Outlander this week,
which Michelle has not seen yet

1014
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,080
because she was traipsing on the
seas and everything.

1015
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:35,320
But I will just say this, I'm
excited because there are some

1016
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:40,040
things that are in the trailer
that come from the book that I

1017
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,480
really didn't think they were
going to do, but it looks like

1018
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,240
they're going to bring some of
these book hotlines.

1019
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,560
I'm so excited.
There are characters that should

1020
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,600
be coming back.
I don't think it's really

1021
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,800
spoiler because they had posted
it on their social media.

1022
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,240
But we do know that Ferguson,
Marsley are coming back for this

1023
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,600
final season.
Yay because we have not had

1024
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:09,560
enough of them.
And then there were a couple of

1025
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:15,160
other things, William.
And then you see Brianna and

1026
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:20,200
Rodger and you see Lord John.
And so there's like, all these

1027
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,600
different things going on.
I'm trying to be vague because I

1028
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,560
want Michelle to see.
Yeah, I got to see it.

1029
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,800
We made this.
We may discuss the trailer just

1030
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,840
separately, just, you know,
whatever, whatever.

1031
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,640
But I'm excited.
But what I need them to do and I

1032
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,280
put this on all this social
medias, I was like stop teasing

1033
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,520
us by saying early 2026 and give
us a damn.

1034
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,280
That's right.
I need a date.

1035
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,400
I need to know when drought
Lander will be over.

1036
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,600
Like for real?
I mean, in January, are you

1037
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,480
talking April?
Are you talking, are you talking

1038
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,000
October?
No.

1039
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,840
No, no, no, they said early.
They better not play no games

1040
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:04,120
early June.
No, I'm just saying has to mean

1041
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,840
first quarter.
I'm just saying early has to

1042
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,160
mean first quarter.
That means they need to give us

1043
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,000
the show before March.
I would love it if they look.

1044
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,720
If you want to drop it on
Valentine's Day, that works.

1045
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,760
Give me a Valentine's Day
release date.

1046
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:17,440
We're good.
Yeah.

1047
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,280
I I I need to know how many days
I can mark off the calendar for

1048
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,720
drop Lander to be over.
Right.

1049
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:32,600
I'm I'm so I'm I'm done.
I, I need it, I thought I, So

1050
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:37,880
the only thing I can think of
that it wouldn't be as soon is

1051
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,880
the fact that, you know, I've,
I've mentioned this before.

1052
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,800
I have been waiting to see if
they were going to announce the

1053
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,160
Outlander cast for New York
Comic Con because they've been

1054
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,400
at New York Comic Con the last
few years.

1055
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,840
So it is now the the end of
September.

1056
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,520
They still haven't been
announced.

1057
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,640
I feel like if it was coming
like January, February, they

1058
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,920
would have been at New York
Comic Con to promote it,

1059
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,840
especially with this being the
last season.

1060
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:09,240
Now, that's not to say they
still can't because I mean, we

1061
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,400
deal with cons here.
They do last minute guest

1062
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,640
announcements all the time.
So it could still happen.

1063
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,400
If it does, I'm gonna have to.
I, I don't know what I'm gonna

1064
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,720
do.
I'm have to figure something

1065
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:23,840
out.
I'm gonna have to go.

1066
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,200
I don't know.
I'm have to do something.

1067
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,840
That's coming up real, real
soon.

1068
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:34,760
Yes, in two weeks, 2-3 weeks.
So, so I don't know.

1069
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,280
But I mean, like I said, you
talking early 2026, February is

1070
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,320
in the middle of that early
because I'm thinking January,

1071
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,440
February, March, that's early
April, May, June, you're already

1072
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,000
midway through the year.
That's not early anymore.

1073
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,240
That's not early, no.
And then what they did with

1074
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:55,480
Season 7, it came out in or 7B
came out in June.

1075
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,920
So they kept saying early
summer, early summer.

1076
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,000
So I really feel like it's going
to be in the next few months but

1077
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,360
again, I I need a date.
I need that New Year's.

1078
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,880
That New Year's release is what
I need.

1079
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,640
That would be great.
Wait, when?

1080
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,840
Hold on, When is January 1st?
That would be great because I

1081
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,280
would be sitting on my couch
watching Outlander.

1082
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,960
I don't go out for New Year's
Eve.

1083
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,840
I just usually sit.
Here again, it would need to be

1084
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,880
January 1st.
It cannot because.

1085
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,560
Because stranger things I know.
So it releases going to have a

1086
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:32,920
competition here.
This Outland released on Friday

1087
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,160
like this show has been
released?

1088
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,520
I don't remember.
Because the second Sunday,

1089
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,120
Sunday.
So yeah, January 4th.

1090
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:49,520
I need it to be on TV.
The first Sunday in January.

1091
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,680
So Michelle, I already, I
already kind of move forward

1092
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,440
with this because I knew you
wouldn't have a problem with it.

1093
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,840
I did ask Dina if she wants to
cover this season 8 with us and

1094
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,560
she said yes.
So continue to have Dina with us

1095
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,880
for our Outlander coverage day.
That's going to be fun.

1096
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,280
So yeah, look, maybe we'll have
a date by the time we get to

1097
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,200
Conjuration because we are doing
panels at Conjuration and

1098
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,840
hopefully we haven't gotten our
confirmation yet, but you know.

1099
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,560
It's coming because he doesn't
usually do it till like about

1100
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,200
the 14th, the 15th of October,
so.

1101
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,360
And I need to submit tomorrow.
For what?

1102
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,560
I submit for Stranger Things.
You know what?

1103
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,520
I need you to get on it.
Man behind it's on the list.

1104
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,400
Here's the thing on the list.
It he probably will.

1105
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:41,200
Like if it's something that
hasn't got a lot of different

1106
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,600
stuff for, he probably put you
right up in, you know?

1107
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,800
Well, he did that last year
'cause I was way behind.

1108
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,120
I was like, you can I still do?
So he's like, yeah, just give me

1109
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:49,760
a title.
Just.

1110
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,680
Give me a title.
Yeah.

1111
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And we'll write it up later.
And I'm like, OK.

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But we are going to discuss
Outlander at Conjuration, which

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is November 14th through 16th
here in Atlanta, is actually in

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Duluth.
So we'll be doing, I think I

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submitted for two panels for the
main show and for Blood in My

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Blood because we Conjuration
panels are only 45 minutes.

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We cannot talk about those shows
in 45 minutes.

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No, you cannot.
So we'll be doing that two more

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episodes and then we'll be in
like real, real drought Lander

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until we give us this dates.
But that's OK.

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We we can keep the spirit alive.
You guys have any final thoughts

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on Episode 8?
I'm.

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I'm pretty satisfied.
Yeah.

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Yeah, OK.
And on that note, that is it for

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our show.
You can find us online at

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www.phantomhybrid.com.
We are on social media, on all

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You can chat with us on our
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Thanks for listening.
We hope you join the

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conversation next time.