Outlander S7E1 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #245

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of The Phantom hybrid podcast.
This is hanako and I am here

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with Michelle and we are
discussing the first episode of

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season 7 of Outlander and I'm
going to make this disclaimer

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right now Michelle.
You are not allowed to go on any

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vacations at any given time when
we have new shows premiering

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episodes because not being able
to talk about this show.

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For last two weeks has been
horrible.

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I cannot believe you put me
through that and you're not ever

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again.
No vacations.

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No cruises, yes, yes, it was
hard.

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Once I was in the area where
internet I was able to know, I

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tried not to see any spoilers.
See, any clues to what the

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episodes were about.
I know I was going to be two

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episodes behind.
I was like, don't just just

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don't get on your phone, don't
even worry about it.

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Did you were you able to stay
spoiler, friends, who you were?

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One thing popped up but it
wasn't anything that will clue

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me in or anything.
It just said something

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concerning when we talk about
episode 2 and I also have to say

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something about that, then I
said, okay, well, alright, let's

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get into this episode because
one thing I will say is it seems

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like they are going to quickly
tie up.

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Storylines from last season.
We're not going to have to

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linger on a lot of stuff that
was very evident with the end of

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this episode where she was the
conversation with Jamie and mr.

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Brown, but we'll get into that,
right?

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That's why my name is tied up
with a nice Bowl because that's

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what it felt like.
Okay, so let's start with this

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episode.
So of course, at the end of last

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season, you know, we ended with
Richard Brown, coming to take

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Claire so that she could be
tried for the murder of malva.

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Christie Jamie ended up going
with her.

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And so, did Tom Christie just to
ensure that Jamie and Claire

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would be treated fairly?
So, what happens at the end of

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the episode is, of course,
Richard Browns, men, they

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separate Jamie and Claire, they
take Jamie to the cliffs.

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You've are going to send him
back to Scotland, but we find

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out that they're actually just
going to kill him and just be

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done.
And then Claire is taken to a

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town that has a judge because,
you know, one of the issues they

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had was that they were going to
towns and there were no judges.

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There were no magistrates
because of the civil, unrest

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with the rebels and all of the
government people fleeing for

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their lives.
So that's where we are at the

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end of last season.
We start out this episode and I

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would say that opening scene was
very jarring for me, because I

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knew that wasn't something that
happened.

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I knew it wasn't real, but
still, it was just the fact that

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we see a scene where Claire is
taken to the Gallows, and she

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has a news placed around her.
And Richard Brown is there in

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the crowd looking like he is
pleased as punch.

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And then, they push her off and
she is actually hung.

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Now, I knew that that wasn't
real But just the visual of it

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like how close Claire is to
actually dying.

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I was so Disturbed was hard to
see.

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I was Disturbed and then I
thought it was clear like maybe

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having a dream or, you know,
kind of panicking.

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But no, it was Jamie.
I thought it was real and I was

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thinking, oh, James out to come
in, shoot the Rope or something

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are, you know, they're not going
to kill clear off.

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Look, they got.
This is no.

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I We were gonna be close like
she was gonna be right there on

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the edge and he was going to
come in and save her.

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Oh, what not after what happened
with Roger, Roger?

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That's like, okay, we go get
here.

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My okay.
Maybe, you know, Christy about

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to do something I'm like nah
this is now a dream.

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Okay.
Because I know it's not

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otherwise real right?
Cuz she was just sitting there

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dangling.
I was just like, yeah, the nerve

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of them showing that to us but
it was Jamie.

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Basically, you know, we get his
voice over here.

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He's talking about his fears, he
was like, okay, I can't let my

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fears take over me.
I know you're not dead.

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I would have felt it if you were
now, I need to go get my wife.

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So you see him and end start on
this journey on Horseback to go

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get Claire.
Meanwhile, Claire is in the

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jail, and she's making
acquaintance with her cellmate

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and the lady who's in charge of
the prisoners, and they're

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having some conversations.
And one of the things that trip

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It was Claire's voice over
because she was talking about

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how she couldn't tell the other
ladies.

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Just how long this war was going
to be in there because they were

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talking about.
Oh yeah, you want to look you

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don't want you don't want them
to rush you to trial because

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they can't try you.
They can't hang you.

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So yes.
We're going to sit here for a

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while.
You know, it might be a few

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months because the magistrates
are all you know gone there

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they're fleeing for their lives
again.

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And Claire says, something about
in her in her voiceover.

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She says something about how she
knew how long this was going to

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be and it would probably be
months that they would have to

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sit there with no one to rescue
them.

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Said, must've forgot who she was
married to, she wouldn't talk

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about herself.
Look to what's up - we okay cuz

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I when I was thinking she wasn't
really thinking about herself.

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I thought she was thinking about
these Young ladies.

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I was like, it's clearly, you
know, clearly, first of all, if

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even your husband, your
daughter, your son in law, you

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got a whole slew of family who
will come and rescue from

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prison, right?
Well, I mean, if you think about

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it from Claire's point of view
Roger Brianna are gone.

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There gone to eat and sin so
that Roger can study to be a

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minister, right?
But he's gonna have to come

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back, he's gonna have to come
back, but who knows how long

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that's gonna be?
And no one there.

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If you think about the way the,
the crowd was the, you know, the

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residents of Fraser's Ridge.
When Richard Braun came to take

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Claire, most of them were siding
with Richard Brown because they

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and I'm not talking about that
family.

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I'm talking about her immediate
family.

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Unity have to be in prison for
six months.

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No 1, Roger.
And Brianna, even if they do

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come back, they're supposed to
be gone for two months.

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So even if they do come back,
two months later.

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Who's going to Tell them where
Claire is nobody, at that point

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knows where Claire is, because
the town that Richard Brown was

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supposed to take her to have a
judge.

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So remember they've ridden over
200 miles.

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Roger Brianna wouldn't even know
where to start.

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So no.
But realistically we don't put

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them out the way because they're
yeah.

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But what?
I learned Jamie, right?

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But what I learned what I
learned about, I mean, I'm just

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saying, just keep Jamie was
around.

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She would have got Rescue.
What I have learned about these

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ladies, though.
They have a good gossip system,

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that is better than social
media.

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So, we will know our family with
a figure out, where she was

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probably because they talk, it's
probably.

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So, but yeah, I just found that
funny.

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I was like, Claire, do you not
remember who you're married to

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do you?
Yeah.

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That's why, that's why that's
why I need to think travel

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through time and space to be
together.

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You really think Jamie is going
to be like, Oh, I'm just, I'm

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not gonna Search high and low.
I mean clear you did it for him

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when he was taken by the
English.

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You traveled, the whole freaking
Countryside dancing in taverns,

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trying to figure out where the
hell he was.

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So of course, I'm gonna come and
rescue you.

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That's right.
So that's why they even take her

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serious heat about these.
Are the ladies gonna be in this

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prison for a while?
She knows he was getting out,

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right.
But, um, so we have that opening

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scene.
And then, of course, here we go.

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Some men, one in uniform.
What?

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Not quite in uniform, come to
the jail.

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They're looking for the Healer,
and they're like, what is she

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here for?
And no one can sing the tell

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them or no?
One will seem to tell them what

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she's there for.
They're like, okay well, What's

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her name is Sadie.
Who was in there for forgery?

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She tells them oh, well, she's
in here for forgery.

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I'm the murderer is, you know,
I'm not the one you want.

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Take her take her.
So of course, Claire gets to a

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ship.
She's being brought aboard to

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see about the governor's wife
who was heavily pregnant and

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apparently not feeling well and
they are fleeing for their lives

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as well because the townspeople
have rebelled.

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They were trying to attack the
governor Now, is it just me?

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What does Claire needs?
Just stay away from boats.

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She just need one.
She needs to stop being

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kidnapped.
She needs to stay away from

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both.
It never works out well for her.

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No never.
It never works out well for her,

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so here she is on this boat.
She's on this boat you know the

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the governor's wife figures out
who she is and you know she's

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got oh yeah your new
notoriously.

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Oh are you going to take my
baby?

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Are you going to harm my baby?
You're the one who cut the baby

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out of your husband's, just all
this stuff, all the information

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and I'm thinking you fleeing for
your life on this boat and you

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got all the tea all the tea I
said well damn they don't even

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have you were quite the Talk of
the Town, of course, she's Go

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get all the gossip, all of it,
but she knew everything she was

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like, he had, my husband doesn't
pay attention to this kind of

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stuff.
He's and he's no good with

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names, not like I am know,
Claire was sitting there.

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Like, can I go back to the jail
now?

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But you know she wins over the
governor's wife.

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You know when she makes it very
obvious, that she knows what

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she's doing, she knows what
she's talking about.

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She's like look, I didn't kill
her.

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I'm a Healer that's kind of
contrary to what I do and it's

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like even though the woman kept
talking, kept talking Claire,

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never lost her temper.
Clear.

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Just kept on was like, okay look
I'm here to help you.

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So that's what I'm going to do.
You need to start taking all the

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shit?
You been taking all the timings

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are you taking in the morning
before breakfast?

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I take one before.
Brunch I take one before I go to

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sleep, I was like lady you got
too much shit in your sister,

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right?
Right?

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That's why you're a sick.
Like stop and then she's like,

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aren't you going to Let it be
this.

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Y'all like learn by this point,
that that does not work and help

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anybody.
Oh, so anyway, Claire is, you

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know, she's on this boat.
She goes to talk to the governor

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about things that, you know, his
wife is going to need.

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And what they, what they need to
do, she was like, look she needs

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to, she needs to go back.
You need to have a doctor.

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He was like, excuse me, you are
the doctor you are here.

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She was like, when are you
taking me back?

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Had, if you haven't noticed, my
wife is pregnant.

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You not going back.
I was like, it would go that me

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to.
I was like, they'd been not go

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off the seat.
I can't do this.

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I can't do this right now
because to be honest with you,

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to be honest with you, since I
have not read the books, I don't

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know where we going.
So I'm thinking, are we about to

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have another Journey on the
Seas?

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So I mean here's the funny thing
because if I'm not mistaken, I

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think that the event that's
happening here happens in book.

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I want to say six echo on the
phone and if you remember me,

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tell you that's where I stopped
reading because they're on this

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bowl and they have to deal with
pirates and they have to deal

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with this.
And then the other and I was

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like, Is this where we are in
the story because I don't know

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because I don't know if you've
heard any new since she's been

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back because you were gone for
what a week and a half, they've

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discussed that Outlanders final
season, or these last two

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seasons will cover the rest of
the books that's out so far.

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So they're going to go all the
way to book nine.

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Okay.
So I'm like, yeah, I'm not gonna

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give us the book.
Test of y'all can't.

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What?
Yes, I was about to say.

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What about book, 10?
Right?

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Especially, Really since book 10
has the oh so important reveal

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about Jamie being in the Square.
You know, his ghost being in the

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school that's when that
information is supposed to be

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put into the story.
So I'm gonna close the show out

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and not do that unless they're
going to have Diana.

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Come in and said, okay, this is
kind of sort of where you need

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to steer the story but I don't
know because that's a lot.

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You're King 123 just talking
three books.

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And as a lot of material, not
granted, they have 16 episodes

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this season, but next season, I
think if I'm not mistaken, I

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think there's not as many.
It's only a seven or eight

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episode season.
So how are you going to do all

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of this?
Well, like we said they seem to

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be clearing up some story lines,
right?

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This one at least you know or
they'll be at the end and they

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be like to find out more you
need to read book 10.

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But they better give me.
They better tied up with a bow

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at the end of this.
Yeah they better make it, make

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it, make it have some attend
just case.

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I don't read book ten, they need
to have some attending, their

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why?
No decided because they are

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taking aspects from all of the
remaining books and putting them

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into this season.
And next season, I'm just going

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to wait to read the books
because I don't want to do that

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whole.
Oh, this is what they kept in.

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This is what they took out and
how is this going to make?

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To do this.
I'm just going to wait until the

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end of next season and then I'll
start again from the beginning.

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I may start from the beginning
before that, and read up until

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where we are in the story.
Anything past that, I'm just

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going to have to be patient and
wait, yeah, I don't want to look

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at it and be like, oh, this is
what they kept.

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Oh, they should have given us
another season to fully exploit.

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Yeah, I'm awake.
Oh wait.

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Okay.
So Claire's on the boat.

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Boat.
Jamie is on his way to find her

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and of course they do this.
Like literally ships Crossing in

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the night, she gets taken and
literally a few hours later

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Jamie and show up in town Tom
Christie is coming out of the

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jail and he's like she's gone.
Jamie is like you were supposed

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to keep track of her.
Uh scuse me he's not he's not a

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guard.
Claire is a prisoner and I don't

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know how they do jail back then,
but I know here you have to have

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special permission in order to
see visitors, when you are

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locked up because you are
supposedly a criminal, they're

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not going to give you any
special considerations time.

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They're not like the guard will.
Let me sit out here all night.

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I have brought what have though?
He would have.

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That's how he said it was like
you were supposed to be watching

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her but the car wouldn't let me
see here.

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All night.
I came first This morning and

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she was already gone right?
Like dude, I tried So, of

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course, Jamie goes into the
jail.

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He questions, the ladies, he
finds out, they Claire's been

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taken.
So now he's got to go off and

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look for her again.
I was like, you know what?

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They just, you know, we had this
conversation last season.

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And we were, like I was supposed
to be together because those

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sure are going through a lot.
Now, I still feel in my heart of

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hearts Claire and date.
Jamie are destined but good

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grief.
They but they keep getting

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pulled away from each other.
Oh my God and they're not only

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that.
So while Jamie is in town, he

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notices a very recognizable
horse, you know, he just kind of

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looks at and I was like, And I
think, I know who that horse

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belongs to didn't confirm it
until the end of the episode,

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but Jamie is in town like, okay,
one, I got to figure out how to

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get my wife back to.
I got to take care of this

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motherfucker.
Who's the reason why she's

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pushing in the first place
because the horse belongs to

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Richard Brown.
Hmm.

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On top of that.
Claire is on the ship.

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She goes to talk to the governor
and who is there, but major

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McDonald and I was like Dude,
can y'all not get away from the

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scummy Redcoats?
Like, everywhere you go and this

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guy, like, this is the man who
Jamie pissed off when he was

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like, yeah, you know what, you
can have your red coat Wimmer to

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die, right?
So he is just bursting at the

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gills to tell the governor,
everything he can about Claire.

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Oh, yeah.
She's the, she's the one that

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supposedly murdered the woman
and took her child out the

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belly.
It's Your wife pregnant.

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That's what you hear.
Oh, you better want to reap?

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I was like, you know what this
but when they believed would see

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first, when they first, who was
in the room, it was like clear

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kept cutting them off where he
was trying to get all the

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information out there.
She was trying, she was it.

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Is he gonna get it out about to
spill all the teeth?

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Oh, yeah.
And by the way, her husband is a

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traitor.
He's one of the rebels.

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He's not, he's not on Want to
guess the crime who's like and

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they just actual great.
But I like the fact that she

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held her own with the governor
You know, she basically was

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like, look, you need me to help
your wife.

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This is what the real deal is.
Blah blah blah.

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I need some with the she said, I
need some supplies in order to

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treat your wife.
Especially after you just told

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me that I can't go back.
Like, I don't know.

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Anybody else who want to go back
to jail, but I think in this

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situation, Claire would it
because she doesn't know where

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they're going.
She has no way to really tell

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Jamie where they are.
She doesn't even know if Jamie

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is alive.
At this point because again,

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they were separated and this is
Richard Brown and his people.

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So her thing is okay, let me get
some supplies.

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Let me write this note and the
note gets two Tom Christie.

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Now Tom Christie since their he
examines the note and when he

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was reading the note, the way he
was looking I was like yeah

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they're gonna reveal the he's in
love with her, it's kind of

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obvious at this point, that's
where they're going.

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But also at the same time, it's
like when he reads the low line

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and in the note that we find out
later, means my husband, that I

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feel like, you know, we were so
I won't say conflicted about Tom

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Christie and the last season,
but he just was not a likable

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person when we first meet him.
And then, yes, him soften a

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little bit towards the end of
the season to the point where we

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are, we discussed.
Okay.

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Yeah.
He might have some feelings for

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Claire, or he might feel overly
protective or he might feel

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guilty.
Oh, no.

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This dude is in love with her,
but not.

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So in love with her that he's
like, okay, I'm not going to

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tell her husband.
I'm going to go and rescue her

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or whatever cuz It's not him.
Yes, you don't want him, she

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want her husband.
So finally he gives he gives the

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note to Jamie, he was like, Hey
I know where Claire is, here's

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the note, Jamie makes it over to
the boat.

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He sees clear reunions?
Yeah, I'm like.

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Okay, they're about to get her
off this boat.

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I should know better.
It's not gonna be that easy.

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It's not gonna be that easy
because the governor takes Jamie

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to task for betraying the cry.
Crown and then he's like, okay

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I'll give you your wife back
when you go home to Fraser's

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Ridge and you get me two hundred
soldiers to fight for the crown

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and you come back.
I was like, well, this is not

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happening.
I'm sitting about to kidnap

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clear off this boat.
That's what I thought I was

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like, they don't wait until the
night.

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They have escaped clean, right?
It's like, I'm not bringing no

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200 soldiers.
He was like, I don't even have

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200 soldiers.
And think about it, half the

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people on the ridge right now.
Don't really like him because

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they think he slept with malva
Christy.

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Mmm, so yeah, that's not gonna
happen.

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I was like, yeah, if you heard
this much about Jamie's

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character and his reputation,
I'm sure you've heard the other

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bids.
This might not be the fight that

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you want especially when you
don't have all of your resources

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on hand because only for your
own life.

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Jamie could have came back with
the The rebel soldiers have been

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like here.
I found this boat here.

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Come help me.
Rescue my wife and you.

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All right, he could have easily
done that and he wanted for and

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they would have killed everybody
on the boat.

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Even you'll even his wife so
take pregnant wife, right?

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So But Jamie doesn't one better
one.

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He sends in home to the Ridge
and I was think at that point, I

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was like, why are you sending in
home?

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Ian could clearly help you in
the situation.

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If you are planning to just go
and you know, escort Court,

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Claire off the boat, but Tom
Christie at that point taste

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Jamie to the side.
And he was like, look.

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So what we're going to do is I'm
going to confess now, before we

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go there, a reason I say, he may
have sent me home was just in

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case he does rescue Claire, and
they send people to The Ridge in

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can protect everyone.
Who's at the ridge busy, you

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know, the twins.
So I'm like, he's like okay, let

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me send him there because
they're gonna come looking for

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us and want to burn things down
tear things down because me and

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Claire gonna go into.
Hi Hiding.

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Yeah.
Yeah, he wouldn't be able to go

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back to The Ridge, at least, not
for a while.

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Maybe I don't, I don't know
where to go to New Bern to

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Ferguson marks, no, because he
wouldn't put them in danger.

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So, you know, they'll be on
hiding.

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Yeah.
But at the time I was like, um,

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even this quite proficient with
that bow, you might need that.

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Yeah, so I think he was sending
under from, from the water and

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just be done with it.
But I think it's sad that we

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playing the man's murder but
anyway we just knew it was it

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was going to happen at some
point.

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Jamie was going to get his wife
back.

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There was no question about that
but then like I said, Tom

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Christie pulled him to the side
and he confesses to my was

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murder. now, Jamie is not
stupid, no name is like, but you

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didn't do this, you didn't do
this and not only that, because

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of the type of person that Tom
Christie is, He would not have

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let Claire go through what she
had gone through, if he was the

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one that was really guilty.
So at this point, once he

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confesses this and he and Jamie
are having this conversation,

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you don't know if it's that he
actually did it, maybe it was an

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accident, you know, if he knows
who did it, my thought was, he

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knows who did it, which Really
leads me to think he's pretty.

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He might be protecting his son,
because you remember Alan was

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very overprotective of malva.
And he was, you know, when

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Claire was still trying to
befriend her last season even

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after the allegations, he was
the one that was like, you stay

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away from her you, right?
And he was acting funny at that

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funeral.
So I still.

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Yeah is a little suspect.
Yeah.

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But I know it's not Daddy.
So, you know, I don't think Tom,

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Christy has it in him.
Not, not to that point.

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I mean granny.
Yes, we know that he was in ours

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newer because he was a Jacobite,
which means he fought in the

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War, which means he probably
killed people, but war is

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different thing.
Yeah, this is deflated.

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Malvo was killed.
Was so that was, that was

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personal.
We said that.

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That was personal, you know what
I'm saying?

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So I don't know if it was that,
you know, if he was the one that

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did it, if he did it because she
shamed the house, she shamed the

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family, if he did it because he
was pissed at her, you know, if

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he found out she could have
found out that she was lying and

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got pissed off about that.
Like you made me go accuse an

445
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:38,700
innocent man of this you know,
ruining his reputation ruined,

446
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:42,500
you know, that kind of thing.
It seems like Tom Christie would

447
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:47,800
that would matter to him.
You know, as much of a religious

448
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,400
man, he isn't as much of a
quote-unquote righteous man.

449
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,600
He is So it was possible but I
don't think he did it.

450
00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,700
Jamie doesn't think he did it
but he convinces Jamie in such a

451
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:06,100
way that I think Jamie suspects
why he's gonna do it, but he was

452
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,700
like, I can't, your wife needs
to be here with you.

453
00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:09,900
You need to be here with your
wife.

454
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:14,200
You are you know he admits you
are you are a person that I

455
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,300
respect and I hope the same of
me like when he asked.

456
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:20,500
Jamie you know he said what did
he say?

457
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,400
You spoke?
So Eloquently about such a such.

458
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,200
I wonder if if I die.
Oh, about malva.

459
00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:31,400
I wonder, what would you say?
You know at my funeral and he

460
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,100
makes Jamie tell him and Jamie
also admits that he respects him

461
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:37,100
as well.
Yeah it was so beautiful.

462
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,800
That was nice.
It was especially was also

463
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,200
honest.
Yes.

464
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,900
Also honest like you're a
stubborn, right?

465
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,500
But it was a nice.
It was a nice change from the

466
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,800
push and pull.
Of you know what they what they

467
00:27:52,800 --> 00:28:00,000
went through last season.
So anyway, Tom Christie comes to

468
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,200
the boat, Claire seems him and
she's kind of confused because

469
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,100
she's like, Jamie supposed to be
coming back.

470
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,900
What are you doing here?
And he actually gets the guard

471
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:12,400
to let him have some time with
Claire before he goes to the

472
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,700
governor and he confesses to her
that he killed malva, blah,

473
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:18,700
blah, blah.
And she's looking at him.

474
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:21,100
Like I don't believe you.
Why would you do this?

475
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,300
Yes.
And that's when he confesses to

476
00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:25,800
her, that he loves her.
He was like you know, I've

477
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,700
always wondered if I was worthy
of Love or if I will find love

478
00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:33,100
the right, you know?
The right kind of love and then

479
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:38,300
he talks about mouth as mother.
Yes, we find out for sure.

480
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,600
That malva is not his daughter.
She's actually his niece while

481
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:49,700
he was in our senior his wife
took up with his brother, right?

482
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,500
And it wasn't her first.
I'm doing that.

483
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:56,600
It's not like, you know, you
know, you'll be like, oh, you

484
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,800
know, they were closed because
he was in prison.

485
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,000
Nah, she was doing this before
too.

486
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:05,100
Yeah, I'll say oh, poor man.
She was not at she was not a

487
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,900
faithful woman known as he said.
She was a witch used to beguile

488
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:13,400
man and he said he saw the same
in malva.

489
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,400
So he tells clear that, that was
why he killed her, Claire still

490
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,700
not believe in him, which good
for you Claire because this just

491
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:27,900
like, again, I don't see the
with the type of person Tom

492
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:30,700
Christie is I don't see him
allowing her to go through

493
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:32,100
everything that she went
through.

494
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:40,700
Like they shot up her house.
They threw stones at her and,

495
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:43,600
you know, I don't see him
allowing her to go through all

496
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,700
of that if he knew he was
guilty, if he had actually done

497
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:50,100
it.
So when ham, right?

498
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:54,200
So he makes his confession to
her that, he loves her.

499
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,900
And when she tries to talk him
out of it, he was like, look, if

500
00:29:56,900 --> 00:29:59,800
I had to give my life, let it be
for something worthy like this.

501
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,200
A love worthy like this.
Now, I really like Tom Christy

502
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:10,100
last season, but I found myself
in Channel at the same and I did

503
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,300
too.
And you look, that's when I say

504
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:18,000
you we saw it coming when he
literally was like when Jamie

505
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,500
has said earlier on that, you
were supposed to be watching her

506
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:24,800
and he was like, they wouldn't
let me sit with her all night.

507
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,200
I tried, so I gotta Berkeley and
they are, you got those emotions

508
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,600
and stuff of my oh they
softening him some whatnot.

509
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,600
Because you really even at the
end of last season when she got

510
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,500
locked up and he gave her the
money and then he grabbed her

511
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:43,200
hand and I was like yep.
Yeah.

512
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,800
So it's like now I'm like okay
now I need to forget that.

513
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,000
I wanted this man to fall off a
horse and died.

514
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,900
Very emphatically.
You did.

515
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:55,600
However, I still stand by.
Okay.

516
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,300
Now, Do not fall off the horse
and die because clear need him.

517
00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:01,700
Maybe fall doors and break a leg
because he was still beating his

518
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:05,700
daughter.
This is, which is still even

519
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:08,400
though it's not his daughter, he
still related to her because

520
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,200
that's his brothers child.
And you didn't need to get your

521
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,800
hand fixed so that you can beat
her.

522
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,200
We have to remember these things
because I will forget and feel

523
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,700
all like, oh, he's saving her
life because of love.

524
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,600
Yes, I'm glad that he discovered
love at the end.

525
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,600
I do.
I think he made everyone feel a

526
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,200
little bit early, and I think
that might have been part of, at

527
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,900
least, that's how I'm reading
it.

528
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,300
It's how I feel.
I feel like that that might have

529
00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:38,500
been part of his issue with
Malvern.

530
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:41,200
Why he was so angry with her
like Angry enough to beat her

531
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:49,100
because I feel like because she
because she accused Jamie, that

532
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:51,900
hurt Claire.
And I think he was pissed off

533
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:53,900
about that.
Well, the beatings were before

534
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:56,500
that because we didn't see him
beating afterwards.

535
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,400
So he's been beating her but I
know why he was beating her

536
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,100
because he was beating her
because of his issues with her

537
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:04,600
mom.
And her.

538
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,900
Yeah, and one of the things at
will and one of the things that

539
00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:13,000
we do because we the person I'm
related to, I live with whoever

540
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,100
he says, we were talking about
this about how with parents and

541
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:21,300
we all do it to some degree.
We sometimes take some of our

542
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:24,900
past issues and apply towards
our kids.

543
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,400
So for him, a lot of that
beating was yes, her mom in the

544
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,800
issue with his brother and then
how he can see her being next.

545
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,200
In person.
So when he looks at her, that's

546
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,700
all, all that.
Trauma with her is taking upon

547
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,400
him.
Not her brother.

548
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,600
Yes.
Let's not a brother.

549
00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:48,000
Yeah, let's not forget to
mention that his, what the

550
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,200
reason why he is a widower is
because his wife was hung

551
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:54,600
because she poisoned his
brother.

552
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,900
She murdered his brother.
Yes.

553
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,900
So it's a lot of trauma.
Yeah, because he realized that

554
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:03,800
malva tried to do the same thing
too.

555
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:06,400
Claire and him when they got
sick.

556
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,200
Last everybody else had the
flux.

557
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,600
They had something that was
completely different and he

558
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,400
tells Claire I discovered it.
You know I realized it when I

559
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:21,900
caught her with the What did
they call the CM bones?

560
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,400
Hmm.
And Claire was like, what?

561
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,000
Because I think they are still
still thought that girl was

562
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,300
innocent.
Yeah, I think she still had that

563
00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:34,500
in her mind.
Like, okay.

564
00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:38,100
She's yeah, this is not her but
I and she thought she was like,

565
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:41,800
oh, love spell.
Oh, because remember, they found

566
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,200
remnants of love spells around
the Ridge and they thought it

567
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,500
was one of the single women when
I thought it was the little Who

568
00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:52,400
had the crush on Roger, you
know, they were like, oh

569
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,800
somebody's doing this is kind of
innocent, you know, not harmful

570
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,800
but you know her head of the
Senators fingers that kind of

571
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,900
means she might kill the
senator, so, yeah.

572
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,199
But I'm saying we're Chrissy,
I'm I hate that he took all of

573
00:34:09,207 --> 00:34:12,400
that and applied it towards
malva because then that pushed

574
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,500
her to what she was doing and I
don't even necessarily think it

575
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:16,800
pushed her, she was going to do
it anyway.

576
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,600
To be honest with you, if he was
beating her or not Not, but he

577
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,600
found love and peace before the
end of his life because he's

578
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,900
just never thought he would
really truly feel those feelings

579
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:31,699
and he does.
Yeah.

580
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000
So I have a little place for
him, he can now does fall off

581
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,400
the horse and break a leg and I
actually fall off a horse and

582
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,699
died.
Well, leaving.

583
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:46,800
But I'm gonna say this he
repented, as of the end of the

584
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,800
episode, like, we didn't see
execution.

585
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,199
We didn't see a body and what is
it Casey.

586
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,199
And I've been saying this a lot
over the last couple.

587
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,300
He's not dead yet.
You'll see a body.

588
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:01,300
Yes, but however, she doesn't
have to go to jail.

589
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:05,800
She's not gonna be tried to go
home, and he just has to sit

590
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,000
there.
The only thing I wanted and I

591
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,800
was like, touch him.
Like touches shoulder, like give

592
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:22,600
a hug, oh, would have done that?
Because I think she realized the

593
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:28,000
enormity of his feelings for her
and one knowing that she didn't

594
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,400
return those feelings into
knowing that it's because of

595
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,900
those feelings that he is there
ready to die for her?

596
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,800
I know she'd have been able to
even I think she might have felt

597
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,400
like, it would have been over.
Stepping because, I mean, if I

598
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,500
think for him it would be
because, you know, he's all he

599
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:48,900
already don't then.
Like when she was like trying to

600
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:53,000
work on his hand and getting
close to her, so I felt that.

601
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000
But I just want to say like this
man is about to die for you.

602
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:57,900
Like am I high five or
something?

603
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,300
I mean, on the cheeks.
Yeah, I was like the kiss.

604
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,500
Maybe too much, but a little pat
on the back.

605
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:07,000
Thank you.
You know, I would never forget

606
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,100
you something, she looked at
him, but she had tears, he had

607
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:13,400
tears.
He didn't really give her a

608
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,300
chance, because when she got up
and she, I think she started to

609
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:19,300
approach him.
He was like guard, I'm ready.

610
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,100
But she had tears in her eyes
and I think that was enough for

611
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:27,800
him, because I think if she had
reached out to him, even in the

612
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,500
most minut way he probably would
have lost his nerve.

613
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,200
Yeah, through the broke down
that and I think there might

614
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,400
have been like a small tiny part
of him who might have been like

615
00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:44,000
Oh, this is possible.
You know, oh, she feels

616
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,800
something for me.
She doesn't want me to go to my

617
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,000
death even though he knows in
his heart, that's not true.

618
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,600
You know, we always have that
little deceptive voice.

619
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,800
That's telling us things that we
don't need to hear.

620
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,000
And he might have had that voice
of shit, giving him any kind of

621
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,400
comfort or any kind of any sign
of affection.

622
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,100
He probably would have been
like, oh maybe I am worthy.

623
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:05,000
Maybe it maybe.
I don't have to, you know what

624
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:11,000
I'm saying, it right.
I just we said something about

625
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,000
Christy knowing and protecting
but you know what, he may not

626
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,400
really know because he's still
question Jamie at the end about

627
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:23,300
what he did.
And so I want this man before he

628
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:29,900
dies to get the truth to.
Yeah, but I mean I think the

629
00:37:29,908 --> 00:37:33,900
conversation that he had with
Jamie Jamie, I think that speaks

630
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:39,600
volumes because for you to tell
this man who you previously.

631
00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:44,100
Liked who you previously had no
respect for for you to tell him?

632
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:47,500
He is a man of Honor for you to
tell him that you respect him

633
00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:52,800
for you to do what you're doing,
so that he can be with his wife.

634
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:56,900
I think.
I think while they were on the

635
00:37:56,900 --> 00:38:02,200
road with the Browns, he had
more of an opportunity to

636
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,700
observe them.
Just the two of them as opposed

637
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:09,300
to the two of them on the ridge,
with their kids, with their

638
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:13,600
grandkids being people, he had
an opportunity to look at the

639
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,500
two of them and to see how close
that bond is between Jamie and

640
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:21,000
Claire.
And I think, at that point, he

641
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,500
realized there is no way in the
world this man.

642
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,000
I'm would have cheated on his
wife.

643
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,100
There's no, he's still.
But he still brought it up,

644
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:29,200
though.
So, I think he still.

645
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,100
He still question.
I think he's still.

646
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:34,700
You just don't know.
He just don't know.

647
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:40,000
But again, Jamie like I swore my
body to this woman for the rest

648
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,300
of my life before during and
after death, just to be sure.

649
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,100
But I think it's more about
Claire.

650
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,400
Yeah.
Like I said are you sure?

651
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:55,500
And even if he did it's still
this is still for Here he don't

652
00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:59,000
you get looks in about Jamie.
This is for Clayton.

653
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,900
Yeah, that's true.
He just be like, I hope Claire

654
00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:05,500
deserve gets what she deserved.
You better not done nothing

655
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:07,800
because she deserves the world,
right?

656
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:10,900
Like you better learn the
sacrifice, that's right.

657
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,300
Which, I mean, he's entitled to
think because he's about a

658
00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:21,400
double literally about to go and
allow yourself to be killed for

659
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,200
something that you probably did
not do.

660
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:29,400
So that the woman that you love
can be happy and can be safely.

661
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:33,600
That's huge.
You know what I'm saying?

662
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:39,200
Especially for it to be someone
who she has.

663
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,200
Never led him on, she is never
giving him any indication that.

664
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,300
Oh, this is something that could
be like you are doing this,

665
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:52,300
purely on the strength of the
love you bear, for her.

666
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:59,300
That's major it is, but it goes
back to like that first episode

667
00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:02,500
even though it said more about,
you know, men being in her bed.

668
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:06,000
But, you know, she's a spirit
that, you know, being are

669
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,700
attracted to.
Yeah, because she's not like

670
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:10,900
everybody else, right?
Yeah.

671
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:13,400
Isn't that what the woman got?
I told her when she was reading

672
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,500
her hand.
I'm saying in the South.

673
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,900
Yeah.
Miss yes Graham.

674
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,300
Yes.
So it is me and falling for they

675
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:30,300
are but I mean yeah that kind of
tracks but before we go to the

676
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:34,500
end of what happened with with
Jamie and and clear in this

677
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:38,000
episode next step away from them
for a minute and let's go to

678
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:44,400
Roger and Briana because they
are in Edenton you know Rogers

679
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:53,100
there to start his ministerial
training and As he is, I had to

680
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:56,100
laugh because it was so funny.
I was like, where are they going

681
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,500
with this?
So as they're sitting there

682
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:02,500
trying to minister to some
soldiers, you know, the soldiers

683
00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:05,400
are like oh so you fought at the
Battle of Alum.

684
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,900
As what did you do, carry the
White Flag because of course

685
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:12,600
they lost you know, the rebels
did he was like you know we need

686
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,500
to be taught how to fight and
how to hold a weapon.

687
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:16,900
Your book is not going to tell
you that.

688
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:20,000
What is in that book that's
going to help me and The the

689
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,500
actual Minister looks at Roger
like here's your time to shine,

690
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:32,900
so Roger C glow like a butterfly
sting like a bee and maybe God

691
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:35,100
will help me or something like
that.

692
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:40,100
And somebody turns and says I
lie and Rogers looking like and

693
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:44,600
it's a wendigo fucking Donner.
I was like, okay so we're going

694
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,000
to see how this plays out so
Roger goes over to him that's

695
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,400
when to go finds.
He was like you're a traveler

696
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,800
like me.
Look I you know, I'm not a

697
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,200
thief, they got me from jail but
I'm not a thief.

698
00:41:56,300 --> 00:42:00,500
I just, you know, I just needed
a gemstone so I can get home and

699
00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:03,400
he was like, you have to help me
and Rogers like what who are

700
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,200
you?
Wendigo Donna and Roger look,

701
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:11,800
it's almost like he was about to
attack but then he realized

702
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,300
where he was and what he was
doing, right?

703
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:16,600
Like I can't go back to that
life.

704
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:23,000
I can't go back to that life.
As I'm going to stab you, right?

705
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,800
Jamie say, kill them all.
You are part of that all because

706
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,600
you didn't help her, he was
like, I didn't she tell you?

707
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:37,000
I was going to help her do know.
She said you didn't help her.

708
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,200
She said you didn't help her and
you re yes, you could have

709
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:46,600
helped her but then you left
which I mean, if he is a weak

710
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,800
enough person that he couldn't
stand up to lying around, I

711
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,900
won't even call him weak.
Like he said, they would have

712
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:54,600
killed him.
They would have those men, they

713
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,400
would have.
So, I do feel a little

714
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,700
sympathetic for him.
I do understand what Rocky can

715
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:00,900
help to be honest with you.
He couldn't help her in that

716
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:02,800
situation.
Let's just be truthful.

717
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,500
They both too many, right?
It's too many of them and just

718
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:10,400
write.
But of course, Briana doesn't

719
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:14,100
understand that all she knows
is, this is the man who could

720
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:17,400
have helped my mother and
instead stood, by while she was

721
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,300
brutally assaulted.
I have no sympathy and Rogers

722
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:26,400
trying to not necessarily plead
with her, but he's trying to

723
00:43:26,408 --> 00:43:31,300
say, sometimes people, you know,
their situations people find

724
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:34,300
themselves in where they can't
speak of, they can't stand up

725
00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:36,400
and she was right?
You would never do that.

726
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,000
He was like, don't forget when I
came here to find you.

727
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:43,600
I got on a boat with Stephen
Bonnet.

728
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,200
And I saw him throw a woman in
a, I saw him throw a child off

729
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,500
the boat, because he was scared
of, you know, this infection and

730
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:55,500
the mother went after the child.
He was like, I stood by and let

731
00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:59,700
that happen, because for me,
finding you was more important

732
00:43:59,700 --> 00:44:02,400
or getting to you and I
couldn't, you know, I could have

733
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,800
been killed as well.
I mean, we all know what Stephen

734
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,800
Bond, it was.
If Roger has stepped up against

735
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,200
him.
I mean, we saw will be thrown

736
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,800
off that boat to write or worse.
He could have been stabbed, he

737
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,900
would have done something.
Because I think throwing a woman

738
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:19,600
or a child off a boat for
Stephen Bonnet.

739
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,100
For the likes of him that was
probably merciful but he

740
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:25,300
wouldn't have done that to a
man.

741
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:27,000
He wouldn't have been that
merciful he would have been

742
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,500
cruel.
Think about when we saw him in

743
00:44:28,508 --> 00:44:32,500
the fighting pits and he stabbed
the old dude and eyes you could

744
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:35,900
have been that he would have
been that Jim tour that merciful

745
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:39,300
to Roger.
He would have really brutalized

746
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:43,400
him and killed him and had fun
while doing it so I can

747
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,300
understand him having sympathy
for wendigo Donner.

748
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:51,200
But of course, Gran is not going
to see it in that way.

749
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,400
And so you kind of see her and
Roger have a little bit of a

750
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:00,100
tiff because Rogers trying to
help him Escape so he can go

751
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:02,400
home.
Because when the girl says

752
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,400
that's all he wants to do he
just wants to go home.

753
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,000
Yeah.
Rihanna is that whatever.

754
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,300
But Roger made perfect sense.
So you really, you can't judge

755
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,600
how someone's going to react in
a situation because you don't

756
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:21,200
know it could he could have been
Shocked like, you know, he first

757
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,700
of all, when we come in from the
future to the Past, we're not

758
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:31,400
used to how y'all handle things.
And I keep on like this is what

759
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,600
we doing right now, okay, I'm
going to try to run away from

760
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,200
this because I don't believe in
kidnapping women into.

761
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,500
I'm not, I'm not into this
Roger, you know, he coming back.

762
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:46,000
He on the boat and it's man
throwing a kid overboard.

763
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,100
Like, oh, we doing this now?
Okay.

764
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:51,400
Well, I'm gonna keep my mouth
closed because I got figure out

765
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,400
this situation.
I remember you, of course,

766
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:58,100
right.
Of course, you want someone to

767
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:01,200
help you out if you're on the
other end, but you all know

768
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:08,500
freezing or something like that,
because I think there is a

769
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:12,000
side-story not a real life-size
story where I think a cop went

770
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,100
into a building and it was just
him.

771
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:17,300
And the person who had an
assault rifle and he just had

772
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:19,800
like a small pistol and they
were like, why you do something?

773
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,400
He's like and what am I supposed
to do?

774
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,700
He was into it was just them two
in the building but like like

775
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:29,200
his gun is over the situation,
right?

776
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,300
His gun is all overpowering me
so I don't it is no way I can

777
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:35,200
work around that.
So you have to sometimes think

778
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,100
about the situation.
Yeah, we would have wanted him

779
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:43,000
to help Claire.
He didn't, he said, he tried, I

780
00:46:43,008 --> 00:46:48,600
don't really think he did.
But if Yeah, but we can still

781
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,100
help him out, so he can get home
because maybe try to get home to

782
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:55,200
his wife and kids.
Yeah, we don't know, or fiance

783
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,700
or child?
Well, I mean, if you think about

784
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:02,000
it, he came with, he was one of
the five members with other

785
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,200
tooth.
Hmm.

786
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,600
Came back through the stones and
ask he says, when they went

787
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,900
through the stones at Ocracoke
and they were all separated.

788
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:12,900
He was like, I never saw any of
them again.

789
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:15,200
I didn't even go to where I was
supposed to be.

790
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,900
I came back.
Back to help the Indians, you

791
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:21,800
know.
So he's just one, he's out of

792
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,000
his time to.
He doesn't have the people that

793
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,300
he was with with him.
He didn't make it to where he

794
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:32,700
was supposed to go.
Then he gets into this group of

795
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:37,400
people who turn out to be pretty
despicable people correct.

796
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:44,000
What these are people that are
Helping you keeping you safe

797
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,900
because, you know, of course,
back, then you're safer if you

798
00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:51,300
travel in a group, especially
with a group, like, Lionel Brown

799
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:54,600
warming.
So, and he doesn't love Claire

800
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,500
like, blue, I never met you
before.

801
00:47:57,700 --> 00:47:59,700
Right.
But I mean, you would think the

802
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:02,300
fact that oh she's a, she's a
traveler.

803
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,200
So maybe she can help me get
home.

804
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:10,100
But again, when is you and this
woman against what it was about,

805
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,600
Amen.
Yeah, the math and math.

806
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,700
And in that Yahweh, she is not.
So I mean I totally understand

807
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,000
how he didn't help.
I get that.

808
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,700
Well, I've been pissed off.
Yes.

809
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:26,700
But y'all looking at him like I
ready to stab him in his throat.

810
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,000
Give him a chance.
Yeah, Megan redeem himself to

811
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,800
yeah.
But again like I said I can

812
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,300
understand coming from Brianna's
point of view as I can to

813
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:40,100
especially as a person who
herself was into that situation.

814
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,100
Raishin, Mmm.
Yeah, Yeah.

815
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:48,200
I can understand and eventually
Roger does see her point or a I

816
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,100
guess I would say he concedes it
because to him.

817
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,900
His relationship with Briana is
more important than wendigo

818
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,500
Donner, right?
Like okay, you know what?

819
00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:04,200
Let him go north, he might can
find his own way home, he might

820
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,900
be able to escape, I'm not going
to help him at, you know, I

821
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:12,700
took, I said, I pray for him and
and my conscience will be clear.

822
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:15,900
You know, at this point, I'm
leaving it up, I'm leaving it up

823
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:22,900
to God's hands.
So you know, at this point,

824
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:28,200
That's all they can do.
Because what else, what else can

825
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,300
you do?
Are you going to break the law

826
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:33,400
to help this man escaping?
Then what happens if they find

827
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,500
out that Roger was the one who
helped him?

828
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:44,500
Write the term investor.
Yeah, you can talk to him when

829
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:47,400
they first got there.
He was like these young men have

830
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,200
been conscripted to go to war.
He was like, we're not here to

831
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,000
judge.
What side they fight on.

832
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,100
We're just here to offer
spiritual guidance.

833
00:49:56,500 --> 00:50:04,100
And I helped me escape.
Is you kind of choose away

834
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:06,900
taking the side?
Yeah, it is.

835
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:11,500
So Yeah, I went to go down
there.

836
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:16,500
I guess you just going to have
to go to war because Rogers, not

837
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:18,300
going to help you round is not
going to help you.

838
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:22,400
And again, like I said, I
understand Rogers reasoning.

839
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,300
But I do understand Brianna
says, well, you know, I do too,

840
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:29,900
and since that's the one you
have to live with.

841
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:33,500
You might as well just gone
ahead and be like, okay, you

842
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:35,600
know what, you don't want me to
having your baby?

843
00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:39,400
Who's having your baby who is
right?

844
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:41,400
What are you through all of this
stuff?

845
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,800
So yeah, right so hmm.
Yeah.

846
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:51,200
So anyway, um, I guess we can go
talk about the end of the

847
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,200
episode because I don't think
they're I think we've covered

848
00:50:54,700 --> 00:50:58,200
most of the episode.
This is really really important

849
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,500
stuff happens at least for me.
Happens towards the end because

850
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:03,700
of course Jamie Gets Claire
back.

851
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:08,400
And they're lying in bed and
Claire.

852
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:14,400
She looks so small, like she
looks so helpless because she

853
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:20,300
knows that Tom Christie lied.
And she also is aware that he

854
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:22,600
loves her.
And she feels so racked with

855
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,800
guilt about the fact that he is
sacrificing himself, so that she

856
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,400
could be free, you know?
And Jamie tries to come for her

857
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,500
about it.
Like, look, this is his life if

858
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:39,500
this is how he chooses to, you
know, this is the path that he

859
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:43,100
chooses.
You have to respect him and

860
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:47,400
allow him to do that.
She doesn't feel good about it

861
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,500
but she can't do anything else
about it.

862
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:54,200
No, so she falls asleep.
And as soon as she's asleep,

863
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,900
Jamie gets up and he leaves the
room and I was like, is he about

864
00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:00,800
to go break time Christie?
Like that's what I'm thinking.

865
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,700
Like oh, she's upset about it.
He's about to go, great.

866
00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:09,700
Tom Christie know what he does
is so much better.

867
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,300
Yes, girl.
So we we get Richard Brown, who

868
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:18,300
is Is there in town?
I guess he was, he was going to

869
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:21,100
stay until he made sure that
they hung Claire.

870
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:28,700
He comes into his room and Jamie
is sitting in the corner.

871
00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:31,700
When I saw Jamie sitting in the
corner, the way he was sitting,

872
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:34,800
I said, oh this is about to be
some shit like they're about to

873
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,400
he.
I'm thinking they're about to

874
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,900
get into a fight.
Hmm.

875
00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:43,400
When I say Jamie was so cool.
Calm, calm and collected very

876
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,200
much so.
And the way that he so the

877
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,000
lighting in the room it was very
dark so you couldn't really see.

878
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,500
There was a lot of Shadow so
when, when Jamie lights I think

879
00:52:56,500 --> 00:53:01,200
he'll it he lit a match or
something and so you could only

880
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,700
see like half of his profile and
the rest of it was in Shadow is

881
00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:06,900
the fireplace.
Yeah.

882
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:09,600
The fireplace was on he was
sitting by the fireplace.

883
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,500
Yes.
And I was like, oh, this is it.

884
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,100
Out to be.
Crazy.

885
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,500
And, you know, he just started
speaking, he was like I saw you,

886
00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:24,100
I saw your horse.
I'd know him anywhere I had to

887
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:27,400
ride behind us, but for 200, you
know, staring at his butt for

888
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:33,800
200 miles, and, and brown.
You gotta admit at first, he

889
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:39,300
seems like he wants to be tough
but at the same time, if Jamie

890
00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:42,400
Fraser is sitting in your room,
he knows that you tried to have

891
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,000
him killed.
Hmm.

892
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,500
He's like oh so you didn't go
back to Scotland, man.

893
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:51,700
He's trying to make
conversation.

894
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:54,700
I guess trying to plan in his
mind how he's about to him this

895
00:53:54,700 --> 00:53:59,900
situation.
So Jamie starts, you know, just

896
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:05,100
again asking questions or saying
what he's saying, you know, rich

897
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:08,500
brown tries to offer him a drink
and Jim is like chill, drink.

898
00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:12,600
It was like, you're going to
need this for after Richard.

899
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,100
Brown was like after what it was
like, you know, do anything.

900
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:19,700
He said, if you harm a hair on
my head, he was like my kin.

901
00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:22,800
Will hunt you down?
Jamie said, uh-huh, already here

902
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,900
of that.
As we, my nephew, my My nephew

903
00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:32,900
Johnny, we get you tortured and
the Cherokee are all taken care

904
00:54:32,900 --> 00:54:37,400
of your men right now, so they
won't be bothering us.

905
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:39,800
That's when you start to see
that Panic.

906
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,400
Slowly.
Going over Richard Browns face,

907
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,100
he was like, you wouldn't do
anything to me.

908
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,600
You're a good man or moral man.
Jamie was like, I'm also a

909
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,900
violent, man.
Any good?

910
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,800
That is within me is good to my
wife.

911
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,900
And you tried to take her from
me.

912
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,800
I was like, I was sitting there
watching this like this, I was

913
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,800
like, oh, this is about to be
good.

914
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,500
Now, I will say this, for this
scene, the thing that made me

915
00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:12,500
mad was that we didn't see
Richard Brown, get his Justice.

916
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:16,700
No, because they do know there's
a body, you don't have to be

917
00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:18,500
guessing later if he's dead or
not.

918
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:21,200
He's dead, right?
He oh, he's dead.

919
00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:23,900
He's dead.
You just the way that they even

920
00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:29,600
did that, it's almost Like it's
almost like a Batman thing, you

921
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,100
know, how Batman, or threaten
somebody and then all of a

922
00:55:32,107 --> 00:55:36,300
sudden he he pulls the cape and
you see nothing but black and

923
00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:39,000
you already know that that
person is being taken care of

924
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:45,000
when I say, Jamie was so cool
and he was looking at Richard

925
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,700
Brown, so intently and Ridge,
Route is still sitting there.

926
00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:51,400
Like you're not going to kill
me.

927
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,400
You wouldn't Kill Me In Cold
Blood.

928
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,900
You wouldn't dare.
The FED make your peace with the

929
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:02,300
Lord, if you must mr.
Brown, you get the music and

930
00:56:02,300 --> 00:56:05,600
then all of a sudden, you see,
Jamie go towards him and then it

931
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,800
fades to Black.
It was like, yeah, I'm not going

932
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,700
to show us what he did know.
And that's why I'm like Tyler

933
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:15,800
with the bow, we got late
because I was Claire is, is not

934
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,700
on trial in Morsi been cleared
and your brows situation is over

935
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:22,000
because you were tired of the
brown, the brown.

936
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,400
You're done.
There's there's no more Browns.

937
00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:29,700
There's no.
Finally because when I say that

938
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:34,100
goddamn story line, I know you
always like I'm tired of the

939
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:36,100
Browns.
I want this to be wrapped up is

940
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:38,900
it's been wrapped up for you.
Thank you.

941
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,500
Because between him and his
brother, his brother was still

942
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:46,300
that storyline and the whole
ethos that that still was the

943
00:56:46,300 --> 00:56:49,200
most irritating.
I think, for me that was

944
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,500
probably the most irritating
plot point.

945
00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:58,800
And all of the seasons of
Outlander line of brown.

946
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,400
Yeah, they dug.
That went into the ground.

947
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,300
I'm glad it's over, but now, I'm
glad Richard Brown is over.

948
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:07,500
I'm glad clear safe.
We don't have to do any of this

949
00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:09,900
anymore.
Let's move on and see what the

950
00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:11,900
hell else they're about to get
into because, you know, they're

951
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:13,700
not gonna stay out of trouble
for too long.

952
00:57:13,700 --> 00:57:16,700
Mmm trouble.
Just seems to follow them.

953
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:25,600
But I tell you, this episode was
such a good episode to come back

954
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:31,700
because everything flowed in a
good at a good Pace, you got

955
00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:37,100
your closure of your brown
situation, we owe you know.

956
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,300
You got your closure over Brown
situation?

957
00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:46,800
Yes, you got your closure, may
be of the Christie situation.

958
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,300
I mean, we don't know what we
are, interested in know the

959
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:52,600
murder, right?
And we'll know what Alan is the

960
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,800
murderer, right?
At least we do have closure on

961
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,700
that in, in that Claire was no
longer accused of her murder.

962
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:06,900
She can go back home, she can go
back to living her regular life.

963
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:11,900
I mean, as regular as it It can
be for you to have been a part

964
00:58:11,900 --> 00:58:15,100
of this, this journey and this
trauma.

965
00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:17,300
I mean, because again, they went
through a lot, they got

966
00:58:17,300 --> 00:58:20,400
attacked, she got attacked.
Her more character has been

967
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,000
attack her husband, her
husband's more characters been

968
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:31,500
attached, you know, someone that
she considered a friend has

969
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:36,500
sacrificed himself for her, not
only that has unrequited love

970
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:39,700
for her and she has to make.
She's I have to find some kind

971
00:58:39,700 --> 00:58:43,700
of way to make peace with that
because how do you reconcile

972
00:58:43,700 --> 00:58:47,800
yourself to something like that?
Like, that's, that's survivor's.

973
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,100
Guilt one-on-one.
Like someone sacrifice

974
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:52,900
themselves for you.
And now you have to sit there

975
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:56,900
and kind of pick up the pieces
and understand why this

976
00:58:56,900 --> 00:58:59,800
happened.
And, you know, it's like, for

977
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,300
Claire.
She's probably going to sit

978
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:03,100
there and think was there.
Something I could have done to

979
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:05,400
prevent this.
Like I didn't encourage him.

980
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:06,900
I didn't make him fall in love
with me.

981
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:08,600
That wasn't anything that she
was trying.

982
00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:10,100
To do yet.
It happened.

983
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:13,500
Anyway, she's gonna feel a
little guilty about that, even

984
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:17,000
though that is nothing, she
could have controlled, you know,

985
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:20,800
we don't control who we fall in
love with especially for a

986
00:59:20,808 --> 00:59:26,400
situation like his like he
basically swore off love.

987
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,100
He didn't think it was in the
cards for him and especially

988
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:33,000
after what he went through, why
would you a lot of people would

989
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,000
be like, yeah, I'm not.
Yeah, his heart was hardened, so

990
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:41,000
But you know, this is Claire.
We're talking about.

991
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:44,400
Yep, that's all I'm saying.
Yep.

992
00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:48,300
I enjoyed this up.
So I thought it was I thought it

993
00:59:48,300 --> 00:59:51,500
was so good.
We got, we got so many different

994
00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:54,100
size to Jamie, you know, you got
the tough side, you got the

995
00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:57,700
tender side, you got, I'm sorry,
that was a little bit of red,

996
00:59:57,700 --> 01:00:01,400
Jamie coming back but he's
wrecked more calm version.

997
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,300
He wasn't the older older woman.
Yes.

998
01:00:05,300 --> 01:00:09,700
Older more mature.
Yes, red Jamie but he was still

999
01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:14,700
like I am a Mormon, but I'm a
violent man to let me show you

1000
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:21,800
just how much definitely.
You know, Jamie's reputation.

1001
01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:26,000
This is a man who killed your
brother, wrapped him up and then

1002
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,300
brought him to your doorstep and
laid him very gently on the

1003
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:34,500
floor.
See that's what brown but see at

1004
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:36,800
that point Brown thought
located, see, he's a good man,

1005
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,400
because his brother did do
something.

1006
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,200
And he brought me, my brother
said I was nice of him.

1007
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:47,400
See you, anybody who will kill
somebody and then calmly bring

1008
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,100
them back and show respect.
That's the sign of a mind.

1009
01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:52,900
That ain't wrapped too tight but
see ground.

1010
01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:54,800
And think about that.
He was like he's a kind man

1011
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,200
because of that because he
brought my brother and I don't

1012
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,700
care.
I'm not bringing your body back

1013
01:00:58,700 --> 01:01:00,600
to your wife but I won't kill
you.

1014
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:06,300
Life is will probably be glad
about it very happily, but just,

1015
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:09,400
but we learn from.
We learn from this episode to

1016
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,600
turn his body back.
So we can see how the baby is

1017
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:21,000
doing, but it's okay.
We also, we also see how this

1018
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,100
season is going to go, because
that means we're going to move

1019
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:26,000
with a different type of pace
since we trying to get different

1020
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:31,000
things, taken care of three
books worth of stuff, right?

1021
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,000
So I see we got Be moving a
little bit.

1022
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,700
Yeah.
So I mean I'm here for it, me

1023
01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:41,500
too.
Um, I think the only complaint

1024
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:45,000
and I don't even really know if
I if I would call it a complaint

1025
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:49,200
because I think when I watch I
watch the episode before we

1026
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,100
started, discussing it tonight
and that was like, maybe my

1027
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:57,700
third or fourth watch.
I did not like the new thing

1028
01:01:57,700 --> 01:02:01,400
song I was about to ask you
about that and like maybe she'll

1029
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:06,600
get to it at the end not like it
when I first heard it and then

1030
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:11,300
the more I hear it I'm like okay
it's not so bad.

1031
01:02:11,300 --> 01:02:16,800
I think the part that I don't
like is the breathiness when

1032
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,600
you're singing it and I've heard
a lot of people discussing and

1033
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,500
they're like oh she sings it,
which such emotion.

1034
01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:25,200
Such passion is Sinead O'Connor,
who's singing it.

1035
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,200
And I understand that, but I
also like, I have Sinead

1036
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,200
O'Connor's voice one way in my
mind and it's very strong and

1037
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,900
it's very, you know, husky but
not breathy.

1038
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:43,600
I don't like breathy singing and
she does a lot of breathiness in

1039
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,700
this version of the song.
So it's like I'm sitting here

1040
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:50,500
listening and I'm like, I don't
really care for it but I think

1041
01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:55,400
the more I hear it up, it is I
don't I won't say it's growing

1042
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,000
on me, but I don't hate it as
much.

1043
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,100
Maybe by a few more episodes out
of listen to it.

1044
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:02,800
And then like, okay, I do like
it.

1045
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,400
Okay, let's try singing it.
Huh?

1046
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,000
Try singing it and then you'll
see how you really feel the

1047
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,800
first time I heard it too.
I was like, okay this is all

1048
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,600
right.
Well, little different here.

1049
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,600
Then, when be honest ever watch
the second episode and I start

1050
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,900
singing along, I can't even sing
with her.

1051
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,100
Okay, I'm not feeling this.
I'm like, what path are we

1052
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:31,600
taking?
I was all off-key ahead with

1053
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,500
words but it was I'm like like
that last season with the gallic

1054
01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:40,200
version but I realized with the
galley version it's because I'm

1055
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,500
not used to hearing Galaxy
singing.

1056
01:03:42,700 --> 01:03:45,200
Hmm.
And like after I heard it a

1057
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,500
couple of times, it sounded good
to me because I know you can

1058
01:03:49,500 --> 01:03:52,100
flow with it.
You can go with it voice.

1059
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:55,800
I like the way he was singing it
and also because you have to

1060
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,400
realize it is a cultural thing.
When you listen to a lot of

1061
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,800
Celtic singing or the Galaxy
senior, there are some there are

1062
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:09,200
some notes that sound and off to
us or that sound off Pitch.

1063
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:14,300
But that's how they sing.
And I was like, okay, I like

1064
01:04:14,300 --> 01:04:18,000
this, I really like it and then
I give this version and I'm

1065
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,300
like, I didn't care for it
either.

1066
01:04:21,300 --> 01:04:22,800
That's all this way for you to
talk about.

1067
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,400
I didn't care for it, the first
time, okay?

1068
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,600
Was a little different.
And then the second time when I

1069
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,000
was doing something in the, in
the background, trying to seem

1070
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,400
to it, and I was totally, again,
off-key ahead of the song, and I

1071
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,900
wasn't matching up.
I'm like, I'm not feeling it

1072
01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:41,600
because all the other songs I
would least hum to sing to, and

1073
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:46,100
it just made some sense.
And here I'm like, okay, this is

1074
01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:47,900
a little different.
So I'm going to do the skip

1075
01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:53,200
intro, Every time I'm watching
the show and, you know, it's so

1076
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:58,000
funny so it's okay.
It's so funny because I posted

1077
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:02,800
in the in the Outlander group
that we both belong to, we have

1078
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,400
a local group called The
sassenach Sisterhood, and I

1079
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:11,100
posted in the group on the group
page and I was like my own

1080
01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:13,500
personal opinion.
I hope for the final season,

1081
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:17,100
they go back to the original
skybolt song because I love real

1082
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:19,500
Yarborough's voice and the way A
shooting.

1083
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,000
So everybody has been putting
their different opinions and

1084
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,100
there are some people who agree
with me and then there's some

1085
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:28,200
people who are like, I like it.
You know, like I said, she sings

1086
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,700
it with such passion and blah
blah blah blah blah.

1087
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:36,300
And one of the comments was you
guys actually listen to the

1088
01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:45,100
intro average.
Yes, like I did.

1089
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,900
I mean every season every show.
So, but this one, I may skip

1090
01:05:49,900 --> 01:05:52,500
intro and I'm not feeling the
passion.

1091
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:56,200
So what I'm going to do is I'm
going to watch again and and and

1092
01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:01,900
listen for the passion, I can
hear it but like I said, it also

1093
01:06:01,900 --> 01:06:05,000
comes through in that
breathiness which is a, which is

1094
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:09,100
something I don't really like
listening to singers singing

1095
01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:10,700
that me.
Either.

1096
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,300
I don't know, Marilyn Monroe,
singing, happy birthday to the

1097
01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:18,100
president remedy, that kind of
thing.

1098
01:06:18,500 --> 01:06:23,500
I don't like it.
So, so Well, I'll give it a

1099
01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:26,000
shot.
I'll keep listening and see if

1100
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,500
know, I'll do one more episode
to listen for the passion.

1101
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,200
And then after that, I'm going
to be like the other friends on

1102
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:40,100
the, the page I'm going to skip
intro because most shows I do

1103
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:42,300
skip this one.
I didn't, I just let it play,

1104
01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:43,900
have it?
Like, I'll make move around.

1105
01:06:43,900 --> 01:06:48,300
Go get something real quick to
drink or something, or just, but

1106
01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:51,800
I'll listen to it.
Yeah, no, I said listen to it.

1107
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,600
I was like, no.
Every single time I've watched

1108
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:58,300
this episode, I've listened to
it because I'm like, okay.

1109
01:06:58,300 --> 01:07:01,500
It doesn't sound as bad because
when I first heard it, I hated

1110
01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:04,600
it, I absolutely hated it.
I did not like it at all.

1111
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:10,300
I was like, really, this is And
I don't know because I like

1112
01:07:10,300 --> 01:07:13,000
Sinead O'Connor's voice.
So I do too.

1113
01:07:13,300 --> 01:07:14,600
There was just something about
it.

1114
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,700
I just did not like, but like I
said, it's a different style of

1115
01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:22,100
singing and I'll try to get used
to it.

1116
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:26,500
But, you know, I'm all for the
original, I like the original.

1117
01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:29,500
I do, I do, I always like the
original.

1118
01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:34,000
So, yeah.
So it actually, I have the

1119
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,000
original on one of my playlist.
I actually have a playlist,

1120
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,200
that's all bear McCreary.
Stuff.

1121
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:45,900
And so I have a lot of The
Outlander stuff and her voice is

1122
01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:48,000
just one this.
Like, I listen to the other

1123
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,000
versions of the song and I'm
laying right next season.

1124
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,300
We'll have Mariah Carey.
You know what?

1125
01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:57,200
No, I'm just kidding.
So, you kind of hell that and

1126
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,600
that would have been signing
off.

1127
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,800
But I have a couple of things
that I want to talk about this

1128
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,600
supposed to be coming up in the
next, the next episode.

1129
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,200
So we're going to let that
comment just slide.

1130
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,600
We're gonna let it slide because
I am a Mariah Carey fan of her

1131
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,500
earlier stuff.
Not her later stuff when she

1132
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:19,800
starts doing the breathy stuff,
I'm like, no give me.

1133
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:23,500
Yeah, I am too.
But anyway, I mean we can't have

1134
01:08:23,500 --> 01:08:27,100
Whitney Houston and if we do I'm
in a different type of world.

1135
01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:32,700
Yeah, the universe.
So yeah, it'll be those two.

1136
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,300
Yeah, no.
Oh no.

1137
01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:36,000
You give me some Barbra
Streisand.

1138
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,200
Give me Barbra Streisand, not
for the Outlander things.

1139
01:08:39,500 --> 01:08:43,100
I don't want that.
That is not what I want.

1140
01:08:43,500 --> 01:08:47,800
No, give me real, bro.
Give me her back.

1141
01:08:48,399 --> 01:08:52,100
I'll be good.
Oh no, I'll take her to her.

1142
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,500
Now, that now I'm being serious
now.

1143
01:08:55,700 --> 01:08:57,800
That would be.
That would be nice too.

1144
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:01,300
Oh yeah, I'm serious with her.
I'm not serious with Mariah

1145
01:09:01,300 --> 01:09:02,700
Carey.
I was joking every yeah.

1146
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,600
All right, all right.
Yes.

1147
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,300
Yeah she can do it.
Okay anyway that's us.

1148
01:09:08,500 --> 01:09:13,700
That's enough of our fan casting
for the final theme song.

1149
01:09:13,899 --> 01:09:17,000
Next Episode.
We're getting Lord.

1150
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,200
John Gray back!
Yay!

1151
01:09:20,500 --> 01:09:29,000
And we are meeting adult Willie.
This is gonna be interesting,

1152
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:33,000
very interesting reread.
Because that means that Briana

1153
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,200
is probably going to meet her
brother for the first time,

1154
01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:39,500
which I like it.
I like it that he's older,

1155
01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:43,399
because I believe in the books,
Willie was still probably a

1156
01:09:43,399 --> 01:09:46,700
young teenager.
You know, Brianna Matt.

1157
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,300
I don't think he was quite this
old.

1158
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:54,800
And I think you may hear he's
what 1920, I think he said or I

1159
01:09:54,808 --> 01:09:58,900
think he's 19.
Okay, somewhere in that.

1160
01:09:58,900 --> 01:10:08,100
So yeah, but also Brianna has
the baby.

1161
01:10:09,500 --> 01:10:14,700
Yes.
Mandy is going to be here and I

1162
01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:18,300
know what happens.
Oh okay I don't know if they're

1163
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:22,200
going to do it the way that it
is in the books but I'm like,

1164
01:10:22,500 --> 01:10:26,000
okay, that's the only spoiler I
know of from over the years

1165
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:29,500
Years, when we have talked about
Briana going back and forth.

1166
01:10:29,500 --> 01:10:31,300
So that's the only thing I do
know.

1167
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,000
Yeah.
Okay Atkins.

1168
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:34,400
That's a possibility.
I don't know.

1169
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,200
They will do it because I know
it's a possibility, right?

1170
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:44,200
Yeah.
In the books, Mandy has she has

1171
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,900
a heart murmur and, you know,
you know, of course, that's when

1172
01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:50,000
they have the little hole in
their heart and it usually

1173
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,300
closes up a hers doesn't, so she
has to go back to get it fixed.

1174
01:10:55,300 --> 01:10:57,400
Now, I don't know.
If they're going to do it the

1175
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,800
way they were in the boots
because in the books Mandy was a

1176
01:10:59,808 --> 01:11:04,200
little bit older when okay back.
I think she was like maybe three

1177
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,600
or four.
Okay so we'll have some time but

1178
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,200
your debut it that way.
Yeah.

1179
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:14,100
If they do it that way but if
not then we're going to get them

1180
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:18,200
going back.
A lot sooner which I'm not ready

1181
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,400
for welcome.
Well, I guess everyone this will

1182
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,500
be a spoiler.
So in the books if they do leave

1183
01:11:24,500 --> 01:11:27,700
to they win When do they leave
in the books?

1184
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:33,700
You safely like what book that
is?

1185
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:39,600
I want to say that is also Echo
so you don't know if they come

1186
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:44,300
back I don't because I'm not no.
Okay.

1187
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,100
See the, I don't know, I don't
know.

1188
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:49,300
The only thing I know of is you
told me a long time ago that she

1189
01:11:49,300 --> 01:11:52,000
does go back but now, I don't
know if she comes back.

1190
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:56,500
See, I don't know that.
Wow, because they're because

1191
01:11:56,500 --> 01:11:59,800
they're going to fit so much of
the last few books into these

1192
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,500
Seasons.
I don't want to go and read it.

1193
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,000
Yeah.
So because you'll be like Me,

1194
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:11,700
you won't know what's going on.
and what path and what path

1195
01:12:11,700 --> 01:12:16,600
we're going to take who So we'll
be on this journey together,

1196
01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:19,100
right?
Because I'm like, literally

1197
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:21,500
trying to figure out, honestly,
I was trying to figure out.

1198
01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:26,600
How is this all going to end?
I'm not even, I'm not even going

1199
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:31,200
to try to go there because it
where we just end and there's

1200
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:38,200
some type of piece C or someone
or Jamie passed away or clear

1201
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,200
passed away.
I don't know.

1202
01:12:40,300 --> 01:12:43,300
And, and I can tell you now, I
don't need to see either one of

1203
01:12:43,308 --> 01:12:46,500
them pass away that Is not need
to be how the story ends for me.

1204
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:51,200
I don't need to know, like, it
can be them, living to old age

1205
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,100
and then we get the explanation
of how his ghost is seeing her.

1206
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,100
We can see that.
I don't have to, I don't need to

1207
01:12:57,100 --> 01:13:00,500
watch either one of them.
No, I would truly want the

1208
01:13:00,500 --> 01:13:03,800
notebook ending.
They just die in each others.

1209
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,600
Arms old age.
You understand the saying or a

1210
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,600
bomb is about to go off and they
say their goodbyes together and

1211
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:15,200
they embrace In a bomb goes off.
I'm just saying, well, didn't no

1212
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,900
matter what, I can't see them
separate it, it will be hard to

1213
01:13:18,900 --> 01:13:22,800
watch her grieve him, or he
greets her.

1214
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,200
I mean, I just couldn't see
that.

1215
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,900
So I rather, they go together,
right?

1216
01:13:26,900 --> 01:13:31,400
And they are peaceful way.
We you have to remember the read

1217
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,600
the whole reason why Breanna
came back was because of the

1218
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,900
obituary saying that they died
in a house fire, right?

1219
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,100
That has not nothing close to
that has happened yet.

1220
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:46,000
So, That may still happen which
again, horrible way to die.

1221
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,100
It is, you see, I don't need to
see it.

1222
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:52,000
So hopefully that that's not
going to be what it is.

1223
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,800
But now so I'm again and
notebook.

1224
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,500
Their old The Notebook their old
at the end.

1225
01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:03,400
Very old and they died together
in each other's arms embracing.

1226
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,000
I'll take that.
That would be perfect.

1227
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,100
Right?
Because I don't know how this

1228
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:10,100
you know I'm saying how this is
going to go?

1229
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:13,300
Well luckily we don't have to To
worry about that for quite a

1230
01:14:13,308 --> 01:14:14,900
while.
Because like I said, There are

1231
01:14:14,907 --> 01:14:19,400
16 episodes in this season and
we're just on the first one.

1232
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:23,100
So, we still have a ways to go,
and then there are I believe

1233
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:25,000
seven episodes in the next
season.

1234
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,400
So we still have 23 episodes,
right?

1235
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,600
But she currently come riding
right, and she's currently

1236
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:35,000
riding the last book.
So here's the thing.

1237
01:14:36,500 --> 01:14:41,700
Apparently shooting kind of
snuck in and 11th book as well

1238
01:14:41,700 --> 01:14:44,900
that she might or might not be
writing.

1239
01:14:45,300 --> 01:14:49,200
So I was like oh okay I didn't
read anything about that because

1240
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,300
it was all the page that has
some spoilers and I don't do

1241
01:14:52,300 --> 01:14:53,600
spoil.
I don't even know what's

1242
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,000
happening.
Like I haven't heard anything

1243
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,100
that has happened in the ninth
book which is the book that came

1244
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:02,600
out this past December.
I haven't heard anything.

1245
01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:05,200
I don't want to know anything so
I saw that article.

1246
01:15:05,300 --> 01:15:06,900
Was like you do.
I'm gonna put that away from

1247
01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:09,800
later and I read it later.
Yeah.

1248
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,000
That we believe there may be an
11th book.

1249
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,000
So okay.
So she's really into that book.

1250
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,700
And something is sparking her to
be.

1251
01:15:18,700 --> 01:15:23,200
Like now they have another story
to tell you, unless it has to do

1252
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,000
with some.
Like, I don't know if she's

1253
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,200
writing, separate stores for
Brianna and Roger.

1254
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,500
Like I said, I don't know if
they ever come back to this

1255
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:33,400
time.
I don't know if Clear goes back

1256
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,700
to the future.
I don't know what happens with

1257
01:15:35,700 --> 01:15:37,700
those characters.
So maybe this could be something

1258
01:15:37,700 --> 01:15:43,100
that's kind of like a spin-off.
Maybe, who knows?

1259
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:47,300
Or she like, Says she could have
more story to tell because the

1260
01:15:47,300 --> 01:15:50,300
way that she says she, right,
she doesn't come up with an

1261
01:15:50,300 --> 01:15:54,500
outline like she literally
writes what her character's tell

1262
01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:57,100
her to write.
So it's really that Jamie,

1263
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,500
right?
That's all I'm saying is they

1264
01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:04,100
have more to say and there's
some, and she has two different

1265
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:06,100
strings.
And she's like, oh, this one now

1266
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:08,300
connect.
So it needs more time to

1267
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:10,800
develop.
So, yeah.

1268
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:17,200
Okay, well, yeah, So, you have
any final thoughts on this

1269
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:22,100
episode?
Um no enjoyed the episode.

1270
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:26,800
The only thing I just found that
was a little bit more difficult

1271
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,700
to get through.
We want to difficult to get

1272
01:16:28,700 --> 01:16:33,000
through, but I really didn't
really care about Roger Brianna.

1273
01:16:33,700 --> 01:16:39,200
In this episode, I wanted more
of Claire Jamie and Christy

1274
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,800
honestly, okay.
It was like, okay I guess we

1275
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,700
need to find out what's going on
with them.

1276
01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:49,200
But I'm like, um, okay we didn't
I was okay, you'll see okay, I

1277
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:53,400
know setting things up but I'm
like, all right, let's go back.

1278
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:57,000
I need to go back right?
Because this this have a bad not

1279
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,400
be on this ship and it goes
away.

1280
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,900
I'm telling you, we're not doing
another see of venture that's

1281
01:17:01,900 --> 01:17:03,300
what was in my mind playing
that.

1282
01:17:03,300 --> 01:17:04,100
Okay.
All right.

1283
01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:05,800
Come on, let's go back.
I need to see what's happening.

1284
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,100
Yeah, see Outlander has to see
Adventures where as you know and

1285
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,800
everything else we watch, you
know, Anthony and I are always

1286
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,500
talking about them walking
through the forest forever.

1287
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:16,900
Outlander has the see
adventures.

1288
01:17:16,900 --> 01:17:20,800
And like I said, Claire needs to
stay clear from a boat, she

1289
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,100
came, right.
At this point, she can't go back

1290
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:24,700
to England.
She can't go back to Scotland

1291
01:17:24,700 --> 01:17:26,400
because that means.
She would have to get on another

1292
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,100
boat.
No, she can't do it.

1293
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,600
She just going to have to write
that's in the America.

1294
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,900
Thank you.
So because and that's what I was

1295
01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:43,400
wanting to see.
Yeah, so I was like, all right.

1296
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,800
So that's what I would buy
Focus.

1297
01:17:44,900 --> 01:17:46,800
It was okay.
All right.

1298
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,500
But we will see what happens in
the next episode but for now,

1299
01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:53,400
that is it for our show.
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1300
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:57,700
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01:17:57,700 --> 01:17:59,900
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1302
01:17:59,900 --> 01:18:02,300
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1303
01:18:02,300 --> 01:18:05,600
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1304
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,600
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1305
01:18:08,900 --> 01:18:11,300
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1306
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