Outlander S7E12 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #325

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am with

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Michelle and we are discussing
episode 12, Season 7 of

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Outlander.
And Michelle, you said that Lord

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John needed a butt, whooping
butt.

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Did you think it was going to be
like this?

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No, I didn't.
I didn't.

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I didn't think he would.
I have mixed feelings all about

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this episode.
OK, I do too, but OK, let's and

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I had.
Mixed more I yeah, yeah.

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Because I don't know, I just
kind of felt, I don't, I don't

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feel, I don't feel like Jamie
needed to do that.

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I didn't.
I think maybe the first hit I

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get just a reaction of what he
said to him.

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And it was like, what?
Pardon me?

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And you hit him.
And then it should have been

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enough.
You see what I'm saying?

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Like we can have a conversation
like we owe.

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We not like in our 20s and 30s
now we owe right?

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So I think the issue that I had
with the way that that whole

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scene came down with, you know,
Lower John telling Jamie I've

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had carnal knowledge of your
wife and then not really

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expounding on it.
Yeah, I think that the problem

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that I had was the way he went
about it.

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It's almost like, it's almost
like he was not necessarily mad

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at Jamie for coming back, but I
feel like in a sense he was kind

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of angry.
Like we thought you were dead

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and this happened and now you're
alive.

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And now I think part of him does
feel guilty about it.

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But again, they didn't know.
But I think at the same time, I

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think part of him might feel
guilty about it because he might

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have enjoyed it because it
wasn't true.

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A traditional, you know, it, it
wasn't traditional as far as

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what we were doing.
It was out of, it was born out

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of grief.
It was born out of.

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Anger, very much of what she
said, so he could feel the same

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way, like it.
It made him be able to move

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forward and everything.
Like it's something that they

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can't actually describe, but it
was something they needed at the

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time and it's and it really
isn't a sexual thing.

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No, but I think at the same
time, it was something that I

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think, like I said, I think Lord
John may have enjoyed it because

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it wasn't just the regular,
let's just say regular vanilla

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sex, regular missionary sex,
regular sex between a man and a

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woman.
Like it was something different.

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And because it was something
different, I think he enjoyed it

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because we saw from the last
episode when he and Claire were

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having the discussion, Lord John
is not really used to intimacy

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within a relationship, you know,
And I don't know, maybe there

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was something about the fact
that he and Claire knew what was

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going on.
And not only that, but this is

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somebody who even though this is
her husband that he is in love

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with, this is somebody that he
could be completely and totally

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honest with, totally open with
about his feelings about his

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frustrations and everything.
And she didn't really hold it

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against them.
And I think for John, that was

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kind of one of those things
like, OK, yes, it was freeing.

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It was I enjoyed it probably
just for that fact, right.

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And I think I think part of him
too kind of wanted to hurt

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Jamie, you know, again, that
anger, that whole because now

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you've you've really like you've
put all of that out there

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thinking that this is something
that would never have to be

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spoken of again or whatever.
And it's kind of like now it's,

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it's just, it's just all there.
And I feel like he.

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Yeah, OK.
And Lord John is one of those.

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People, he doesn't lie.
He that's what I'm saying.

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It was like he was going to say
it anyway.

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He's going to need to say it.
And yeah, he's he's he's angry

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at him because it's like you had
us go through all these

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emotions.
So it's almost like, and people

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can understand.
It's like when a loved 1 like

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you haven't heard from them and
it's a, a love when you hear

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from every day.
So it could be your teenage

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child, your spouse, girlfriend,
boyfriend, and you know me hear

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from them and you don't hear
from them.

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And then you hear like there's a
like a, a, a crash.

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And then you're like, Oh my
gosh, that's the direction they

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were heading.
And then they're picking up

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their phone and you're like, Oh
my gosh, are they OK?

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Like who's in that accident?
I don't know who's in the

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accident.
And then when you finally get to

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them and they're like, Oh yeah,
man, I was in Publix looking at

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the magazines and they left the
phone in the car.

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I never made it down to that
store.

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And you like your ass.
I'm thinking you went in the

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accident and you up in the
Publix reading the magazine for.

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Yeah, but also I think.
I feel like that part, like you

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got us grieving, you got us
going through this or end up

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sleeping with your wife and you,
you just missed the ship.

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I mean, come on.
And you just show up like it's

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rainbows and.
Also, but also, I think part of

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the anger is Lord John has
expressed all of these feelings.

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He has expressed this love, this
rage, this anger, never

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expecting that Jamie would be
there for that.

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I don't know, for that
information to maybe get to him.

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You know, you think this is
something intimate you're

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sharing with just this one
person.

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But now the object of that
affection, that anger, that

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everything is standing right
there in front of you.

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And it's just kind of like, I
really bared my complete soul

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for nothing.
Lord John keeps everything close

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to the vest.
He's not used to revealing that

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much about his feelings, about
his emotions.

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And so yeah, he's probably
pissed about that too.

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Like you made me expose myself
to the one person who now I will

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no longer have access to in that
way because you have changed the

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the scope of the friendship
forever.

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Not just with him and Jamie, but
also what friendship there was

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and what understanding there was
between him and Claire even

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before they slept together.
So now all of that is changed

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irrevocably.
And he's probably pissed off

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about that too.
Because.

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And then not only on, not only
that, on top of everything, now

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his son knows the truth about
who his real father is.

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So now you have this drama on
top of this drama.

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And and on top of this, Jamie
has not kidnapped you out the

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city.
And there's just there's so much

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going on, I think.
I think Lord John was just here.

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And so he's taunting Jamie at at
one point when Jamie is hitting

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him, he was like, yeah, I did
this.

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Yeah.
We weren't.

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What did he say?
We were fucking you.

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We weren't fucking each other.
We were fucking you.

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And that's the thing that kind
of set Jamie off.

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And again, I think when you read
about this part in the book, it

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is kind of explained in a little
more detail, like the

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conversation he and Claire had.
I think there's a little more

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detail in this also where Jamie
that offends Jamie because of

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what happened to him at the
hands of Blackjack Randall, you

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know, and also, you know that
that Lord John did.

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I won't even say he attempted to
do anything with him, but he

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just kind of he made a move that
was inappropriate.

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And from then it's kind of like
Jamie knows, OK, so this is how

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he feels about me.
He's, you know, he made the

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offer to Lord John.
But I think for Jamie, I kind of

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want to say that maybe the fact
that he just they never talked

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about it and he just kind of
kept like Lord John is a dear

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friend, probably his best
friend, honestly.

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This is the man who was raising
his son.

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I think he, he loves Lord John,
but he also isn't looking too

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closely at Lord John in that
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And it's like for Lord John to
say something like that we were

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both fucking you.
That forces him to really stop

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and realize, OK, this man is
really like in love with me.

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Like it's not just a sexual
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It's not just whatever did.
He's also having to confront the

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fact that he has had this
friendship with this with this

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man for so long.
And this man truly, truly feels

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about him the way he feels about
him.

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And I just think that just kind
of set things off because it's

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kind of like, OK, so now you got
to deal with this.

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Because again, now that all of
that information is out in the

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open, there really is no way to
go back to what the friendship

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was.
And this is even before, you

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know, putting the whole clear
thing into perspective.

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But I just feel like with that
conversation, the way that they

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had it, first of all, Lord John
should have said something about

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the fact that he had to marry
Claire to save her life.

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I think if you had started with
that, you might have had a

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little more leeway.
It didn't have to be so

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combative.
But again, you've got emotions

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all around.
Lord John is not behaving in his

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usual stoic, you know, dignified
manner.

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He is like frenzied.
And I'm like, well, this is what

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happens when you sleep with
Claire Frazier.

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I don't know what it is about
her, but she be having man just

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acting Boo, Boo the fool.
So I don't know.

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He should have started that
conversation a little bit

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differently.
And I realized he was like,

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worried about it.
He was like, look, let me just

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get this out the way.
I've had carnal knowledge of

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your wife.
When Jamie said how or why, then

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you should have started, OK, So
what had happened was you should

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have started with the whole spy
thing and they were going to

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hang your wife as a traitor.
I married her.

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It was just a marriage and name
and then blah, blah, blah.

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I mean, it's not like you didn't
have the time before y'all

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started going that before y'all
started fighting each other.

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You had time to sit there and
properly explain it.

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But the fact that you know that
Jamie Fraser has the temper that

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he has, obviously you know this
because you're raising his son.

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His son has the same temper as
we see in this.

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Episode as as as we see.
So OK, we're going to move away

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from Lord John and Jamie right
now because there's a lot to

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unpack with that.
So we'll come back to it because

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I'm sure we both have more to
say.

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But since we mentioned William,
let's talk about baby boy 'cause

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woo woo like.
I I, I don't know what to say.

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I I did say that I felt bad for
him however you know he dumb

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piss me off.
'Cause he messed with your boy.

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He messed with you and not that
he fought him because first of

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all, maybe he didn't know.
Just don't assume.

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But you know what?
From conversations.

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Yeah.
He OK?

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Yeah, Ian knew.
So yeah.

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Yeah.
I'm never mind even.

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If he knew that does not give
you permission to throw your

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hands and and hit him and then
when he hits you back and you

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have him arrested.
That's why Rachel, I didn't

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attack him.
She was like, duh, yes, you did.

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You did get him in the face.
But you did and all because then

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you realize, oh y'all get
married, dude.

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All last week that's all she was
talking about.

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In in, in, in in in in in in in
in.

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Where you been?
Yeah.

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Where have you been?
So you are saying that and then?

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Understand his whole world is
falling apart.

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I know all at the same time.
I get it though.

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I do get it.
It's spiral.

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And in that spiral you felt the
need.

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After you get her fiance
arrested, you don't kiss her.

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William, William.
William William.

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So.
But you done messed up though

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'cause you messed with my aunt
Mama give you.

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I'm going to give you some
leeway because I understand that

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you truly are upset.
Right.

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But here's.
The fact who you are because you

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don't know who you are.
If you were going to kiss

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Rachel, you should have done
that before.

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Long time ago.
Like you had, you had your

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chance, you had your moment, you
could have at least threw your

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hat into the ring and been like,
OK, I understand that you're all

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about E&E and but I just need
you to understand that I kind of

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love you too.
And, you know, but I don't know,

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maybe he's too much like his
father in that way, like Lord

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John keeping those emotions to
the to the vest.

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And then now that everything is
falling apart, he's just

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exploding.
You know, he comes and talks to

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Claire and get some, you know, a
little bit of information from

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her, which doesn't really happen
like that in the book, if I

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remember correctly.
But I'm kind of glad that they

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had it because with Jamie and
Lord John both not being there

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to answer questions, he needed
something, you know.

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But again, I have to remember
1700s because his first

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assumption that his mother is a
whore just because you know, all

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of the stuff that it's just kind
of like.

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Right.
To like, and he was like, yeah,

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they said she was reckless.
They said she was reckless.

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I need you to calm down.
I need you to get at least part

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of the story.
Just get, get, get enough of the

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story to kind of make you stop
and say, OK, maybe I should wait

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and hear the whole story before
I just start going off.

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And no, you start throwing
things in the house.

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You, you break the chandelier,
you break the mirror.

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And it's just, it's just a lot.
And then you go to the brothel

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and you meet this, you know, you
meet one of the women in the

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brothel and you have a moment
where you lash out at her.

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You grab her, you're rough with
her.

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And then you kind of realize,
like, oh, shit, what am I doing?

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And I'm just like, William, I
need you to calm down.

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But I will say this, I'm glad
that they did show that part

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because that means that a part
of the story that I was sure

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they were going to bring into
the show is going to happen.

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So I'm looking very much forward
to that.

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Oh, because they brought Jane
in.

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Yes, because they brought Jane
in.

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I also am glad that they aged
her up for the show because in

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the book Jane is, I believe, 15.
Oh no.

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Yeah.
And she has been working in the

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brothels since she was like 11.
He'd been living there since

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9:00.
So.

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So I'm glad that they aged her
up because in the books, William

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does develop a genuine affection
for her.

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But it's more so like, yes, he
does visit her in the brothel,

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but just like it happens here,
he's trying to keep her from

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that other soldier.
I can't remember what his name

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was because he is a right ass in
the books.

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So he's trying to protect her.
And then of course they do.

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I think they do sleep together
maybe once or twice because of

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course it's kind of normal back
then for that type of thing to

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happen.
But then after that he takes

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more of a protector stance with
her.

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And it's, it's a very sweet
relationship in the book.

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So I'm I'm glad to see it in the
show.

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I'm sure it's probably going to
be a little bit different since

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the characters aged up a little
bit, right?

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I, I think we'll still get to
see the bulk of that

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relationship, which is good for
me because it's one of those

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storylines that I really do
enjoy in the books, You know,

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just kind of seeing William and
how he's trying to deal with all

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of these revelations and all of
these things that he's dealing

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with, but also him having a part
of the story to himself that

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does not really involve the rest
of the characters.

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I did enjoy that seeing that
because that made me, it

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endeared me to his character a
little bit more, you know,

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because one of the things that
you and I have talked about is,

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is William being raises who he
was the 9th Earl of Ellesmere.

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He's raised with a lot of
privilege, a lot of, I will say

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entitlement.
He's raised to kind of have a

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certain world view.
That's not necessarily, let's

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say, the same type of worldview
he would have if he was being

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raised by Claire and Janie.
So you start to see the growth

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of his character and the
maturing and kind of the change,

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like he's really starting to
have to look at things in a

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different way.
And that will happen with his

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character in the show.
And I'm I'm looking forward to

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that because again, it's one of
the things I enjoyed the most

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about reading the later books.
It's just seeing more of

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Williams character.
So.

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But boy, let me tell you.
I'm glad that he had the

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opportunity to release some of
that with her.

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Like to say out loud, you know,
I'm a bastard.

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And I felt bad when you say all
I had was my word.

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And you kind of made me take my
word, break the word.

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I felt like, oh, ma'am, you
could have just left him alone

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for this one night.
He just needed his word.

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But you know what, I got to say
it too.

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He probably needed that more.
He did because he's isolated

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from everyone now and he just,
I, I feel like he just needed a

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comforting touch.
He did.

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He, I mean, he absolutely did.
And he needed to express that to

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her, to someone, Sir, what he
was feeling.

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Yeah.
So.

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But also it's good so he so he
can let her know.

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OK, look, I'm not a I'm not a
Dick like this in person all the

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time.
Like I'm, I'm genuinely

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struggling with stuff.
Yeah, yeah.

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I would have never put my hand
on you otherwise, because you if

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if Lord John and Jamie found out
that he put his hands on her,

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oh, he would be in the ground.
Both of them be like no this is

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not what we do but.
He had to get them their

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frustration out.
But let me tell you the fact

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that he was acting so out of
character that he made Rachel of

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all people.
Yeah.

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Slap him because of the way he
was acting.

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I was like, you know what?
Well, I mean.

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Hope that snaps him out of it.
Well, you know, it, it, it

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didn't 'cause he still was.
I was went to the brothel in

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that way.
Still angry.

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But yeah, it was, he was all
over the place.

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I mean, he was, he was all over
the place.

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Rightfully so though.
Yeah, rightfully so.

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He took it out on the people
that was closer to him at the

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time.
And, and it kind of mimics the

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way his sister found out about
Jamie and Claire and the way

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that she behaved because she
pretty much had the same

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reaction.
Yeah.

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And this is something she also
warned Lord John about, you

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know, she said.
He's gonna, you know, when he

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finds out or if he finds out,
he's gonna be angry.

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He's gonna feel betrayed.
But it is.

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But there's some things you
can't say in front of Ian, too.

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You can't be talking about Ian,
Uncle slash daddy.

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No, no.
Especially after.

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You just lost his his dad.
You just lost him, and at this

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point William knows that Jamie
is alive, but Ian doesn't.

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Right, so he thinks both his
uncle and his dad is dead.

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Dead.
And you want to talk some mess

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about Jamie?
Oh no, he's not going for that.

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Then the way you, the way you
kind of come across is like

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cousin, oh, so you know, And
then Rachel's like, what?

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Oh, that and Wayne was like,
what do you mean that she was

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like, well, you know, when I
kind of look at you, you.

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Can kind of, I love it.
She's like, I kind of see it.

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Yeah, you kind of see it.
And it's so interesting because

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later on in the episode when
Jamie does appear and because he

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sees Anne and Rachel tells him
what happened, when he pulls

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William to the side and they're
looking at each other.

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You can like their facial
features are not all, like their

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noses are different.
But you can tell that Charles

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van der Wart, who plays William,
you can tell that he has studied

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Sam Heuen and the way he makes
his facial expressions because

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there are some moments where he
does very much resemble him and

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kind of like the cock of his
head or the way he stands or

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just certain mannerisms.
So yeah, Rachel was like.

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Yeah, I can see it, Yeah.
And I, I, you know, I guess in

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some ways that might have made
it worse because he was like,

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oh, if there, if you can see it,
who else can see it?

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Who else is known?
And that's just going to add

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more and more his distress.
But at this point, it's kind of

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like that there really is
nothing you can do about it now.

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Like it's out in the open now.
So unless you all just continue

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to pretend, which at this point,
I don't know because William

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doesn't know what has transpired
between Jamie and Laura John.

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So he doesn't know that right
now they're at odds.

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He doesn't know that while they
were in the middle of their

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discussion, they were set upon
by some some of the rebels.

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And because they are familiar
with Lord John, because they've

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seen him sitting on his porch in
his uniform, they're like, oh,

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yeah, this dude is a, he's a,
he's a British officer.

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And Jamie is trying to tell
them, look, this is personal

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business.
We just, you can just go about

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your way.
But of course, again, here's the

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whole thing.
You are friends with a British

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officer.
You are friends with a rebel

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soldier, not only a rebel
soldier, a well recognized

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general of the militia.
So right then and there, y'all 2

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being together, having whatever
kind of discussion is, is not,

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you know it.
It is very suspicious.

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Again, if y'all had just said
so, this is a matter of personal

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matter about my wife, they
probably would have left it

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alone.
They probably would have left it

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alone, but there was something
about the name because

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apparently there was a a British
soldier by the name of Charles

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Gray, who is some distant
relative to Lord John, who has

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caused some commotion within the
rebel camps, within the rebel

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army, killed a few people.
And so they're looking for a way

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to make an example.
And of course, his cousin just

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happens to be here, has no pet.
You know, they don't have any

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kind of papers or Jamie doesn't
have papers supposedly on him.

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And they're like, yeah, we're
just going to take them.

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We're going to take them.
And then when they do take them,

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they find a letter of
Commission.

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In his.
Pocket from how ordering him

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back into reinstate and he
didn't even know because he

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hadn't had time to read the
letter.

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Matter of fact, I think that's
what what that's what he was

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getting ready to read when Jamie
burst in the door in the

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bedroom.
So he hadn't had time to read it

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yet.
So now this makes it look like

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he's a spy 'cause he's not in
uniform.

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He was just getting beat up.
He said he lying about his

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service.
I was just like Jamie.

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You could have tried harder to
save him because you, I

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understand that you may do
certain things as far as if he's

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a prisoner, you're not gonna
just outright kill him or

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whatever.
But bro, this is not anything

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good for for Lord John.
It's not.

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And I was like, I'm skipping to
the end.

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Did he get shot?
Did he get shot?

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Oh, spoil his friends 'cause I
don't like that he already in

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the dark, he can't halfway see
they chase snapped to him with

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dogs and guns.
I said, do we really have to end

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the episode like this?
I.

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Don't think he got shot but.
I'm not.

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I'm gonna assume he's he did, I
mean.

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He's not dead.
I will say that he's not dead.

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He's not.
Dead right?

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And I, I'm assuming he wouldn't
be dead because if we still

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need, we still need some client
and him to have some type of

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conversation 'cause then William
would be even more devastated if

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he dies and he had a chance to
tell him how upset he was, but

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then also tell him that he loved
him.

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It'll be so much worse for
William so.

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We're not gonna do that.
That's why I was like, I don't

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really like how this episode
ended.

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I don't really.
Yeah, it it's to keep you in

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suspense.
I don't remember if he if he

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actually got shot or what may
have happened because again,

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some things that are going a
little bit kind of out of out of

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order, if I can, if I can say
that because leading up to this

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point, there's some other stuff
that that would have happened.

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So yeah, I'm not sure.
I don't think he got shot, but I

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mean, look, Lord John is just
not having what is it?

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I saw somebody say it and I I
had been thinking that he's he's

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00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,280
having a note on what is it a no
good, terrible, bad.

447
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,800
I can't remember the name of the
children's book, but he's having

448
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:25,280
one of those days.
He's just, it's just not poor

449
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:32,440
Lord John.
He's just now he's in enemy

450
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,360
hands.
And apparently the person who is

451
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:41,880
in charge of the camp that he's
at, he knows because there was

452
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,280
some dialogue between them, like
they knew each other.

453
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,040
But aside from him calling him
Smith, we don't really know

454
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,960
anything about this person.
We just know that he's like, OK,

455
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,080
well, you know, I hate to have
to do this, but yeah, we're

456
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,240
going to let.
We're going to let the camp

457
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,040
Doctor Who just happens to be
Denzel Hunter.

458
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,360
Yay, treat you.
But then I'm going to go off to

459
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:11,600
the side and make a secret, you
know, a secret communication and

460
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,440
find out.
Oh, OK, So what we're going to

461
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960
do is we're going to hang you as
an example, but I'm not going to

462
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,960
tell you that I was just like
Lord John.

463
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,120
You just get out.
You need to.

464
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,520
Get out right.
So I'm glad he's running, but.

465
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,680
He's not in the best shape to be
running right?

466
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,640
No.
That's what I'm saying.

467
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,360
That's why I was like, I really
didn't care for how this episode

468
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,320
ended.
Yeah, he can't.

469
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,720
Yeah.
And and it's so funny the how

470
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,520
everything is doing the the
reveal about Jamie being alive

471
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,920
because like I said, Jamie comes
out of the woods while Ian is

472
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:51,800
being, you know, I'm not not
drug, but he's, you know, kind

473
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,840
of handcuffed and following
behind the wagon.

474
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,560
And he looks at Jamie and you
can see he wants to react.

475
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,200
He wants to cry, he wants to
laugh.

476
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,920
But he's like, oh, OK, let me
just be quiet and see what's

477
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,920
going on.
Because at this point, you know

478
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,320
your uncle enough to know
something ain't right.

479
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,720
Right he he bout to try to get
you out.

480
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,880
That's what you already know.
So just just keep quiet.

481
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,440
That too.
But and then when Lord John sees

482
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,640
Denzel in the camp and Denzel
was checking out his eye, he was

483
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,480
like, yeah, this eye is not that
good.

484
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,440
I do wish your wife was.
He he was like wife.

485
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,000
Haha.
I have no wife.

486
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,240
You would know why.
Because Jamie Fraser is not

487
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,400
dead.
And Denzel's looking like, huh,

488
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,720
Yeah, they just.
Poor Lord John.

489
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,200
He just got so much going on,
trying to keep from being hung.

490
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,960
And then Denzel actually does
something that he probably

491
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,040
shouldn't do as a Quaker, but
he's basically like, yeah, I'm

492
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,360
gonna bring you some lunch, and
I'm also gonna bring you a knife

493
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,840
so you can cut yourself out.
You need to go.

494
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,080
Need to go tonight.
Bye.

495
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,360
Oh, So which the Quakers, We got
both of the Quakers acting right

496
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,000
heuristically.
This.

497
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,440
But I like that though 'cause he
was.

498
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,680
Like you got to go right 'cause
they gonna kill you.

499
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,120
Like you are a friend even
though you are, you know, and,

500
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,680
and again, these blurred lines,
British rebels.

501
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,000
But you know what?
You are a person that I like and

502
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,520
I respect.
You need to get the fuck out now

503
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,320
'cause they're gonna kill you in
the morning.

504
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:33,400
Bye.
But he can't have C.

505
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,360
And then the person Smith, who
is in the tent with him

506
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,760
sleeping, happens to turn over
and notice that he's gone.

507
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,480
I was like, you could've just.
You could've been in the deep

508
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,840
sleep you want.
Roll over now.

509
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,800
Stirring earlier.
I know, but you want roll over

510
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,080
now.
Yeah, I kind of feel like John

511
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,360
probably should have waited a
little bit longer to make sure

512
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,880
he was deeply asleep, but
there's no telling how long that

513
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,320
would have taken that would
have, you know, cut down on the

514
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,440
amount of time he would have had
to escape.

515
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,520
So I mean, he's, he's caught
between a rock and a hard place.

516
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,200
He has, he has no friends around
him.

517
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,920
The one person who probably in
any other instance would have

518
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,280
come to rescue him is the person
who is kind of sort of

519
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,160
responsible for him being in
this, you know, in this

520
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,480
situation in the 1st place.
So it's just kind of like he

521
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,520
doesn't have much to go on.
Nobody knows where he is right

522
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,760
now.
Jamie doesn't even seem.

523
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,080
Like he cared.
Yes, that's and that's another.

524
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,440
That's another thing that
bothered me.

525
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,360
He's angry, he's very angry.
And sometimes when we're angry,

526
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,600
we say think and do things that
we don't really feel, but we're

527
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,000
just letting that and, and, and
I think once he calms down, once

528
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,600
he kind of gets over the upset,
now that he and Claire have had

529
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,120
that that conversation, that
that hard conversation, and now

530
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,840
that they've had the table sex,
I think he'll start calming

531
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,120
down.
He'll be like, OK, you know,

532
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,440
maybe I acted a little bit
rashly, maybe.

533
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,040
But he's still going to be
pissed for a while.

534
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,560
And again, I don't think it had
to do.

535
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,200
I don't think he's being pissed
had anything to do with Claire,

536
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,960
especially once Claire, it kind
of explained the situation and

537
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,840
was basically like this was not
us making love.

538
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,000
It was it was literally animal
me.

539
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,880
I needed something different.
I needed somewhere to place my

540
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,480
anger.
I needed somewhere to place my

541
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,120
rage.
I needed somewhere to place my

542
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,560
grief and he took it all.
You know what, whatever you want

543
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,080
to call it.
I think now that she has

544
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:56,720
explained that he won't be so
mad about that part because when

545
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,040
you look at it in that way, Lord
John was there for her in ways

546
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,640
nobody else could have.
So and then again, this is

547
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,120
somebody who she would never
have those kind of romantic

548
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,239
feelings for.
So it's not like it was

549
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,600
something that he should be
threatened by.

550
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,000
But again, Lord John's feelings
for him, the fact that he now

551
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,920
has to like really openly
confront that, I think that's

552
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,159
kind.
That's just kind of like, OK,

553
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:28,679
yeah, I kind of sort of gave him
to some some rebels, but I kind

554
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:32,360
of sort of didn't have a choice.
He should be OK, but again, he

555
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,639
doesn't know about the the
letter in John's pocket up until

556
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,920
later on.
Then it's like, oh shit.

557
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,280
Yeah.
Oh, and Speaking of which, the

558
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,960
whole reason why he's running
from soldiers in the 1st place

559
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,800
because even Lord John says you
just got the time.

560
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,080
May I ask why soldiers are
chasing you?

561
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,239
And he had his papers.
That was what we thought.

562
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,840
He didn't have papers.
He said he had his papers.

563
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,480
But I guess the, I guess the,
the soldier who was looking at

564
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,320
him didn't like, didn't like the
look of them and wanted to

565
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,280
search him.
And he had some things on him

566
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:17,080
that he did not want found.
And those turns out to be some

567
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:22,760
letters and some information
from France that he brings to

568
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,040
none other than General George
Washington.

569
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,840
Right.
And it was, it was funny because

570
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,680
watching this, Anthony was in
the background say, OK, so so

571
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,120
now with George Washington, I'm
like, Yep, we're at that point,

572
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,200
George Washington.
Yep.

573
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:46,640
And then when George Washington
offers him a position, you know

574
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,040
how I was in the background.
No, no.

575
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,400
Please turn him down.
No.

576
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,680
Especially considering the fact
that you haven't even properly

577
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,480
reunited with your wife yet.
Like you had the one moment in

578
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,080
the house but y'all haven't even
had a sit down to say.

579
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,320
I'm so glad you're you're not
dead.

580
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Can you tell me exactly what
happened?

581
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,920
And they, you know, they get
this later on, but when he comes

582
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,400
in later on to have that
conversation with her, he's

583
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,400
already pierced and in a foul
mood.

584
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,200
So it's just kind of like, no,
don't.

585
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,440
Why are you accepting
commissions?

586
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:28,880
And you ain't even had like.
What?

587
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,720
Yeah, So, you know, I was
already screaming.

588
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:34,960
No, no, no and no.
Damn.

589
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,720
You just get, you literally just
got back.

590
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,800
Can we fix?
Look, can we fix what's going on

591
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,160
right here in your family?
First raised from the dead.

592
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,000
Damn.
Your wife married to another

593
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,320
man, Which I'm starting to think
he probably heard a little bit

594
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,360
about that.
Because if he got back and he

595
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,360
said he heard the uterpy sink,
he knew Claire would be worried.

596
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:03,200
Maybe somewhere around there if
he asked, you know, have you

597
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,880
seen a Madam French or Lord John
Gray or whatever?

598
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,920
Somebody might have said Lord
John and Mistress Gray.

599
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,640
They might have said something
that kind of tip him off, but he

600
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,960
probably wasn't thinking about
that.

601
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,480
He was probably just like, OK, I
need to get to my wife and we'll

602
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,160
figure this out.
But then the way that all of

603
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,000
that stuff is revealed, it's
just kind of like, no, but that

604
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:37,360
conversation that they had, I,
you know, I was really, really

605
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,960
trying to be patient with Jamie
because I realized you've been

606
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:46,480
gone for months at this point
and you come back, your wife is

607
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,600
married, your best friend, your
best friend has slept with your

608
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,800
wife.
And then kind of sort of not

609
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,160
necessarily bragged to him about
it, but like he said, when the

610
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,640
the rebels pulled him off, he
was like, and I'm not sorry

611
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,960
about it either.
So, so you got a little bit of.

612
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:04,960
Right.
And just.

613
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,880
And I and Claire kept asking
like, where?

614
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,240
What?
Where is he?

615
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,320
Is he dead and.
I'm like, that's what bothered

616
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,080
me.
That's, that's what bothered me

617
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:22,880
'cause I, I, I now I understand
it's not the same, but to me

618
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,840
it's the same.
Now I understand you guys issue

619
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,480
with Claire and the ether 'cause
that's how I'm feeling about

620
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,680
Jamie's reaction.
I feel like it's not really him.

621
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,880
Yeah.
So that's what bothered me with

622
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,440
this episode.
Yeah.

623
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:47,160
So I'm to be completely honest,
I like disconnect because even

624
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,440
they have great communication
but they still was missing a

625
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,800
piece when they were
communicating.

626
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,360
Like she was telling him
everything that needed to be

627
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,200
said, but like from him it was
like missing pieces.

628
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,040
But again I.
For me, yeah, you, for you to

629
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,440
realize that you got to
understand, like you need to be

630
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:14,120
a little bit more caring that
they not they just Claire, let's

631
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,200
just say Claire period, thought
you were dead.

632
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,000
You literally just came back.
When you came back to say you're

633
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,960
not dead, you run off with Lord
John.

634
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,680
You leave him somewhere.
You you go off, do some other

635
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,280
things.
You deal with George Washington,

636
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,200
then you come back and you're
acting, kind of.

637
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,640
Angry.
Right and cold and, and I, I had

638
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,000
an issue with that 'cause I'll
be like, I, I'm jealous, Claire,

639
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,360
I just need to understand and.
We know Jamie is a jealous man.

640
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,520
Right.
And I get that and I totally get

641
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,040
it.
But some of it like you're even

642
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,160
when you were mad sometimes at
people, you still kind of cared,

643
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,680
like what was happening to them.
You just let you have no idea

644
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:08,960
what they're doing to Lord John.
None, and you have no urgency to

645
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,400
go get him.
Instead you're screwing on the

646
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,040
table.
That bothered me too.

647
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,760
Yeah.
'Cause you don't, you really

648
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,600
don't know.
It's not like you left him in

649
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:27,240
the pub drinking.
He'll make it home like he's

650
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:30,680
been taken.
He literally could be hanged.

651
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,440
You really don't know.
Right.

652
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:40,160
So that kind of that that this
kind of that bothered me just to

653
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,560
tell you that just that just
bothered me a tad just to tell

654
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,360
you.
Yeah, I mean, and I understand

655
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,920
that because it's kind of like
you're having this conversation

656
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,240
with your wife and all you can
focus on this is, is your anger.

657
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:00,960
And it's like she's trying to
tell you there, there is no one.

658
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,200
There is really no good way to
explain any of this.

659
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,640
And again, I kind of feel like
why has nobody mentioned the

660
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:14,080
fact that, oh, so this all
started because I got caught

661
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:20,240
being a spy and he was trying to
keep me from being killed as a

662
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:24,760
service to you, as some, as the
last good service he could do

663
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,120
for his friend.
Why?

664
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,880
Why y'all, why nobody is
mentioning this as a starting

665
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,320
point?
It's so confusing to me because

666
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,920
if you really think about it, if
you really think about it, do

667
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,360
you really think that Claire's
just going to up and marry

668
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,520
somebody else after a couple of
weeks?

669
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,480
What?
Right.

670
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:59,320
That's what I'm saying.
That's what and then all that

671
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,960
I'm be honest with you, all that
Lord John has done for you, but

672
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,680
she really did not have to do
and continue to do.

673
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,520
You better be glad that man in
love with you 'cause right, so

674
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,880
he could have sent you to the
States from Arts Mirror.

675
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,800
Right.
Or even just his his

676
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,480
relationship with William.
It could been told, it could be

677
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,600
totally different.
I'm talking about even way

678
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,320
before that.
That's true.

679
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:32,440
Way before that, Jamie could
have been further imprisoned

680
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,880
after that escape attempt when
he tried to when he went to

681
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:41,960
Silky Island, he came back.
Lord John could have had him in

682
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,440
prison for the rest of his life.
Right.

683
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:48,040
On when ours mirror closed, he
could have sent Jamie to the

684
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,520
States with the rest of the men.
Told her Sandy, But even now,

685
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,280
even even to this date, because
you can be like, OK, that was in

686
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,120
the past, but even up to now
he's been loyal.

687
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,040
So I don't know, I just it's
just me.

688
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,360
I just wasn't feeling.
But was it like that in a book

689
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,640
or and it's just not playing
well on the screen right now

690
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,520
like their interaction at that
part, is it better in the book?

691
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:21,360
From what I remember, I would
say yes, but I would say yes

692
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:27,320
because they don't have the
constraints that you have

693
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,920
filming a show trying to tell so
much story in a few.

694
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,720
Right.
And I I totally get that, but

695
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:40,680
just his just the just what is
happening, even if if it was

696
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,560
even spanned out, I'm just not
really caring about that

697
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,040
interaction and his reaction.
So that's what I'm saying is the

698
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,320
reaction better in the book?
But I think it's probably

699
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,240
better, but because it's more
explained of why he's feeling

700
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,680
that way.
And here they still could have

701
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,480
done it, but it's just, it's
just not to his character.

702
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,120
To me, it's something about it
that's just not him.

703
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:11,280
Yeah, but I, I mean.
But some stuff was funny though,

704
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,720
because she didn't quite like
what he said.

705
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:16,600
You do leave with your body.
She's.

706
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,280
Laughing, he was like, she was
like also I'm a whore now.

707
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,960
He was like, no, that's not what
I mean.

708
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,600
Like and I get what he was
trying to I get.

709
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,760
What he was saying too, but it
was a.

710
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,400
Harsh conversation already, you
just did not say it in the the

711
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:39,280
right way, so yeah.
Like you, you talk with your

712
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,880
body, you express sometimes your
emotion with your body.

713
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,560
But I didn't mean it that you
were a whore, right?

714
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,760
I got it too what he was trying
to say, but she was like.

715
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,800
Yeah, this is one of the one of
the times when Jamie Fraser's

716
00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:03,800
words failed him, right?
Yeah, but but yeah, I think I

717
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,840
think with them only having what
is the 7-8 episodes on this back

718
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,160
half again, there's so much
story that I think they're going

719
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,800
to put in this last season and
1/2 of the story, all the stuff

720
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,680
without Arabella slash Jane.
I didn't think that they were

721
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,960
going to delve into that because
I was like, how are you going to

722
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:31,880
have time?
Because Jane for William that

723
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,920
the storyline and the
relationship between Jane and

724
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,800
William and the things that
happen from this point on is

725
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,960
such an integral part of
William's growth.

726
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Mm hmm.
And of, and I will be honest,

727
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:59,000
it's, it's a, it's a little bit
of can't say without spoiling

728
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,360
it, But I, it's just, it's very
important to the story.

729
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,080
I didn't know if they were going
to be able to do it.

730
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:13,920
But even though they're bringing
her in, I feel like the

731
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,720
storyline is going to be
condensed because there's some

732
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:22,840
major things that are going to
have to happen in order to push

733
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,800
William's story forward and to
push Jane's story.

734
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,720
And then I will just say in the
books, Jane has a little sister.

735
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,200
So like I said, William becomes
kind of a protector of them,

736
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,160
trying to make sure that, you
know, that he he's trying to

737
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,080
help them get out the brothel.
He's trying just different

738
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,760
things.
And I just feel like in in a

739
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,680
sense, it's probably going to be
rushed in the show because

740
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:56,240
there's also, yeah, there's also
another key character that is

741
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:00,240
coming in that I didn't know if
they were going to do that

742
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:02,320
storyline.
But then there was like a little

743
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,880
interview video with some of the
characters.

744
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,120
And one of the characters was
talking about, I think the the

745
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,720
question was, who is more
romantic, you or your character?

746
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:20,040
And one of the one of the actors
said, well, I think we'll see

747
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,200
that my character is a little
bit more romantic.

748
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:26,880
You know, up until this point,
no, but we, there are, there is

749
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,280
some stuff coming up that, you
know, that'll show us a

750
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,760
different side to the character.
And I was like, yes, they're

751
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,280
doing that storyline, but I was
like, wait, now, because if you

752
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:43,400
bring that storyline and that
means there's at least four more

753
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,200
characters that are going to
have to come into the store.

754
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,800
And I just don't.
I don't.

755
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,080
Know, I don't know.
They don't have the time for

756
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,600
that.
So I would say if they do bring

757
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,480
those characters, if they do
bring that storyline, if they do

758
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,200
have to condense it, I hope they
condense it in a way that makes

759
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,000
sense.
Like with the whole thing with

760
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,320
Claire and and Lord John and
everything, from the time that

761
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,240
Claire left Scotland, we knew
that there was chunks of time

762
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,200
going by.
It wasn't like this all happened

763
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,320
in a few days.
Like this is a course of several

764
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,600
months from the time that Claire
left Scotland to the time that

765
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,800
Jamie returns.
So I think they did a good job

766
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,800
with that, even though, yes, I I
do kind of feel like some of it

767
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,680
is rushed.
But again, I think for the

768
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:38,120
amount of Canon that there is in
the books and what they can and

769
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,160
can't do on screen, I think
they're doing a really good job.

770
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,560
Because I don't, I'm looking at
it and especially now that I

771
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,320
know the story, I can see what
changes they've made and what

772
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,320
sacrifices they've had to make
so far.

773
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:57,200
And I'm just like, OK, I'm not
all that bothered by it because

774
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,440
I know we're, we're pressed for
time.

775
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,200
And the way that they're telling
the story is not, it's, it's not

776
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,120
detrimental to what's going to
happen on screen.

777
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,240
I don't feel like because I'm
looking at this and I'm like,

778
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:13,560
OK, I, I'm following the story.
There's not anything that's

779
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:18,080
really going on that's making me
feel like, so how did they get

780
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,000
to this point?
I think the only thing is that

781
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,800
person who was keeping Lord John
hostage, the fact that he

782
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:31,240
referred to him as Smith and
kind of made references to like,

783
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,320
a past, I don't even want to say
relationship, a past

784
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,720
acquaintanceship or something
between them.

785
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:43,680
I was like, OK, I had to sit
here and think, and I think I

786
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,120
remember who this person
actually is.

787
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,880
So I made take a look at the
books and be like, OK, let me

788
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,440
see if it's this person.
Oh yes, Oh no.

789
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,840
But aside from that one person,
because of the way that they

790
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,040
introduced them, I, I think
they're doing a good job.

791
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,440
It's just that, like I said,
there's so much story.

792
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,520
And yes, I do believe that
conversation with Jamie and

793
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,440
Claire.
I do believe there was much more

794
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,640
to it in the books.
But again, you have the benefit

795
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,880
with the book of that thing
could have been 1020 pages long

796
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,240
full of dialogue.
But you you can only do so much

797
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:27,120
in our episode, especially when
if you're trying to get to

798
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,160
several other plot points in in
the storyline.

799
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:40,560
So I don't know, hopefully Jamie
got whatever piss tivity he he

800
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,920
had towards Claire.
Hopefully he's got that out of

801
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:50,400
his system and they can actually
focus on trying to find Lord

802
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,800
John.
And then, as we see in this

803
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,240
episode, he really does need to
have a conversation with his

804
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:59,840
son.
Yeah, he does.

805
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,520
And.
Not throwing them up against the

806
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,240
tree.
But you know what?

807
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:06,680
I'm kind of glad that he did
that because I feel like William

808
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:15,320
had this attitude that because
Jamie lied to him, because of,

809
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,200
you know, because of the secret,
because of the way that he found

810
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,680
out, because he feels like he
has the right to be pissed,

811
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,680
which he does.
I think he really thought that

812
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,080
Jamie was just going to let him
talk to him any kind of way and.

813
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,400
Right.
And that's not going.

814
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,680
To happen.
Like hold up, let me let you in

815
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,600
on the little secrets.
You know me, but you don't know

816
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:37,760
me.
Right.

817
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,320
So let me show you who I really
am now.

818
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,240
He threw that boy up against
that tree.

819
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:45,000
He was like you.
Whatever you got to do, you are

820
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,120
going to go get my nephew out of
that.

821
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,920
Right.
He was like, Boo, you bout to

822
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,560
get this together?
My bro I maybe I didn't raise

823
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,200
you.
I did raise that one.

824
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,760
Or.
We not gonna do.

825
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:04,240
You see 'cause you upset, right?
But.

826
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,040
Yeah, they don't have to have a
conversation, but they got to

827
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,800
find they need to find Louis
John first.

828
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,400
Please.
And he needs to care.

829
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,080
And I think he does, but.
I mean, I know he does, but

830
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,760
anger is going to be with him.
Well, hopefully when they're

831
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,640
done on the table he can go like
try to find out where he is and

832
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,000
rescue him.
Curtains all open.

833
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,360
I mean, I understand you didn't
want to go to the same bed where

834
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,200
she laid, where she lay with,
with John, but still, it's like,

835
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,480
where was Missus Fig at the
time?

836
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,440
Was Missus Fig just like, oh,
I'm just going to go into the

837
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,840
kitchen and I'm just going to
stay there for a while.

838
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,080
Or maybe she was cleaning up
Williams.

839
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,880
Yeah, I don't.
Know.

840
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,480
They're right there.
So I don't know.

841
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,920
But you know what they got, they
got whatever they needed to out

842
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,080
their system.
They got that one good, you

843
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,200
know?
OK, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta

844
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,760
get back in my body.
I gotta get OK.

845
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,120
So now y'all need to start
fixing some shit.

846
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:10,960
Go find sit down with William.
And and, and I don't even know

847
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,080
if Jamie has told Claire yet
that he said this new Commission

848
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,120
'cause you know, she's not going
to be pleased about that.

849
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,080
But, I mean, she said in the
last episode that what did she

850
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,120
tell Ian?
You know, Jamie and I made a

851
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,480
home here and we wanted to be a
part of building this new

852
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,160
nation.
So I guess they're going to be

853
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,040
building that new nation.
I mean, yeah.

854
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,640
Be a part of.
It he wasn't going to have a

855
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,920
chance to do it, and now he
does.

856
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:45,280
Yep, we want to be a part of it.
So let me, let me ask you,

857
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:52,160
during the conversations with
George Washington, were you were

858
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,680
you hearing little snippets of
Hamilton in your head?

859
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,000
OK, It's not OK 'cause every
time something.

860
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:04,480
Happened.
And then also because I think in

861
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,360
one of the earlier episodes,
maybe it was from earlier in

862
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,960
Season 7, you know, Jamie
mentioned the Continental

863
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,080
Congress and I was like, oh,
he's going to see Alexander

864
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:25,720
Hamilton.
But yeah, I just, you said you

865
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:29,720
were done fighting.
But I mean, I guess too, at the

866
00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:36,240
same time, if you have someone
as respected and someone as

867
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:40,960
revered as George Washington
asking you to be a part of

868
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,600
history, to be a part of this
change, he probably didn't feel

869
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,640
like he could say no.
Because at this point, George

870
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,840
Washington is like the man he is
the person that's leading the

871
00:54:54,840 --> 00:55:00,080
rebels.
He's the yeah, I, I just don't

872
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:05,040
see.
I don't see any way Jamie could

873
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:12,840
have said no and still been OK.
You know, one of the things

874
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:19,200
about Jamie, his name does
command respect because of all

875
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,960
the things that he has done, not
just in the lead up to the

876
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,800
American Revolution.
But of course all the people who

877
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,480
are fighting with him, they know
a little bit about his, his

878
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,320
Scottish background.
They know a little bit about his

879
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,720
Culloden background, his
Jacobite background.

880
00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:45,560
So he carries a lot of respect.
But I think if he had refused,

881
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,280
he might have started having
problems.

882
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,000
Maybe not big problems, but
especially the fact that, OK,

883
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:58,760
you just came back in town from
Scotland, you're refusing to

884
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,080
take part in our side of the the
war, which, you know, if they'll

885
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:03,880
remember.
Oh, yeah.

886
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,800
You don't want to fight with us.
You know, when we, when we went

887
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,960
to Saratoga, when we were at
Ticonderoga.

888
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,760
You don't want to do that with
us either.

889
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,120
And.
Oh, what happened when people

890
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,320
thought you were dead?
Your wife married a British

891
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,040
soldier.
So they might if, if he didn't

892
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,000
step up and say, OK, yes, I'll
take this Commission.

893
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:31,360
He might have had difficulties
in other aspects, especially

894
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,760
because Claire don't know how to
sit down and just wait.

895
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,680
But I mean, again, she, she did
kind of put herself in that

896
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:46,800
position to where she had to
marry Lord John because she was

897
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,240
trying to help Mercy out.
So I don't know.

898
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:56,840
I just, you know, I think I said
this before, I'm really tired of

899
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,720
the war stuff.
I know it's got to happen and I

900
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:01,120
know we've got to go through
that.

901
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,200
I understand it.
That's why I was screaming no,

902
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,600
no, no.
'Cause now you know we're going

903
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,400
to see some more battles.
Yes, yes.

904
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,920
That's why I was.
I can't.

905
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,000
Yeah.
Well, that that many because we

906
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,680
don't have much time.
That's a good thing about it.

907
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,960
We don't have much time.
So you can't.

908
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,800
You really can't.
Depends on how long they drag,

909
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:30,240
like what the, what the time
span is, how they, how they drag

910
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,720
all of this out, 'cause I don't
even remember what the year is

911
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:40,040
right now.
I know 17, I want to say 1778 or

912
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,000
9.
I think it, it's, it's one of

913
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:53,720
those two years.
But yeah, I just, Jamie don't

914
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:59,280
need to be fighting anymore
because.

915
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,960
And then also, you know, if
Jamie fights, Claire's not going

916
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,200
to let him go off on his own.
She's going to come because

917
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,760
she's the surgeon.
She's the medic.

918
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,280
They're going to need her, which
is true.

919
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,920
So that means they're both going
to be in it.

920
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,080
And then of course, Ian's going
to be in it.

921
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,000
And now that he and Rachel are
like together, together, it it's

922
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,440
just they're they're.
They're in it too.

923
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:31,440
Yeah, they have a lot of stuff
to to fit into these next season

924
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:38,480
and a few episodes.
And I don't even think in this

925
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,640
episode, I don't even think we
got any Brianna and Rodger

926
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,960
stuff.
No, we did not.

927
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,880
So.
So we still got all that stuff?

928
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,760
Yep.
So wonder about this.

929
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:54,200
Episode we do 'cause I was
thinking that too, Like, OK, we

930
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,640
left off cameras on the floor.
Yeah.

931
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,560
Yeah, ass tires skillet.
Right.

932
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,000
And with the knowledge that Jim
is not in the past.

933
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,800
Right.
And no Roger this episode

934
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,360
either.
Yep, no.

935
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,400
And that shenanigans found in
Daddy, right?

936
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,400
So.
So yeah, they, they have a lot

937
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,000
to work in.
But like I said, I I will say

938
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:27,200
this, for the most part,
Outlander has done very well

939
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,160
with merging their storylines or
even when they've had to move

940
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:37,440
stuff further into the storyline
or take some stuff that should

941
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,640
be happening later and putting
it sooner in the episodes.

942
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,920
They all work because I don't
think I've had a real like

943
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,320
complaint complaint about the
pacing of this show.

944
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,440
No, I didn't the only.
Thing was, the whole Ether

945
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,160
storyline and the Lionel Brown
storyline and even.

946
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:04,760
When I that did that did.
My my rewatch that wasn't as bad

947
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,560
as I remember.
It wasn't bad.

948
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,560
It did.
It did.

949
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,520
It didn't bother me.
I know it bothered you, but it

950
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,640
did drag just a little bit, just
a little bit.

951
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,480
But then we're just make, we're
making up for it now because now

952
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,440
we're just like we were going
35, now we're going 60.

953
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,440
Yeah, yeah.
But it's a nice 60.

954
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,800
Like I'm not missing anything.
Yeah, it's just a tad bit

955
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,000
faster.
Yeah.

956
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,280
No complaints on that because
then with that you almost like,

957
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,680
OK, well you get a lot of, you
can get a lot of story in.

958
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,640
Yeah, I just wish that they
would have given US1 more

959
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,920
season.
But right.

960
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,680
And that would have gave time
for, I guess, him coming back

961
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,040
from the dead.
And that was whole interactions.

962
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,720
And it would have been more.
Yeah, yeah.

963
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:01,760
And I think if we had had more
like if we had another season or

964
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,720
even just a few more episodes
because I don't think seasons

965
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:10,240
season 8 is very long.
It might be 7 or 8 episodes, but

966
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,520
give us maybe one or two more
episodes.

967
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,720
We could have spent maybe a
little bit more time in

968
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,520
Scotland.
Because that is one thing I that

969
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:23,640
is one thing I am disappointed
about for this season because

970
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,760
there was such a big build up to
it about them getting home,

971
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,840
about them going to Scotland,
them getting in home, them

972
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,200
seeing the family.
And then we literally got what,

973
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,440
2 episodes?
Maybe not even the full 2

974
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,920
episodes.
And then they had to leave.

975
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,920
Yeah.
And it, it was basically them

976
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:47,720
coming, you know, to say goodbye
to big in which yes, that

977
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,480
happens in the books, but
there's also a lot more story in

978
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,960
between there.
So you get you get the feeling

979
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,800
of being in Scotland for a lot
longer.

980
01:01:58,360 --> 01:01:59,600
Yeah.
So.

981
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:06,760
So yeah, I get that, yeah.
But I, I, I don't know.

982
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:11,560
I just, I think first and
foremost, we need to find Laura

983
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,880
John.
We need to rescue him.

984
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,800
We need to figure out if he was
because I, I don't think he was

985
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:22,440
shot.
Maybe it was just to scare him

986
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:30,960
because shooting him when he
escapes, I don't think will work

987
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,400
out for the British Army the way
they need it to.

988
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,360
Like they were really going to
hang him because they needed to

989
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,920
set an example.
And the only thing that you're

990
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:47,360
showing if you if you shoot him
when he escapes is that your

991
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:54,440
people weren't competent enough
to keep hold of 1/2 blind, you

992
01:02:54,440 --> 01:03:00,960
know, half blind bound prisoner.
Like how did he get away?

993
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:05,160
How did y'all let him escape?
You got 3 guards standing from

994
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,320
the tent.
Didn't nobody say let's go check

995
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,480
the back, let's check things,
you know?

996
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,080
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.

997
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:21,320
So find him.
William needs to get all of that

998
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,680
anger out his system, which I
know that's not going to be an

999
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,200
overnight thing, especially for
him.

1000
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,880
Like it was different for
Brianna, I think because one

1001
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,800
Brianna had a different, she had
a different support system

1002
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,040
because she had Rodger there
while she was figuring all of

1003
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,000
this out.
Yeah, she did, you know.

1004
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,400
And he really don't have
anybody.

1005
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,280
No, because the one person he
thought he had, she's engaged to

1006
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,920
somebody else now, his cousin on
top of that.

1007
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:01,120
So not only has he lost the the,
I guess the love of his life,

1008
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:06,800
she's about to be family.
And she knew all along.

1009
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,160
That poor baby.
Yeah, she suspected.

1010
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:14,000
But yeah, I I think even in the
book when that revelation came

1011
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,040
out, she was like, oh, what
secret that Jamie is your

1012
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,440
father.
He was like, excuse me.

1013
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:25,320
But she was like, it's like
looking in a mirror, like y'all

1014
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,600
into it, you know?
Because like I said, in the

1015
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,840
books, they are mirror images of
each other, which is one of the

1016
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,200
reasons why Jamie has stayed
away from him so long.

1017
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,600
And the older he gets, he's
like, yeah, I'm never going to

1018
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,320
see him again because the the
minute he looks at me, he will

1019
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,720
not.
Well, it's all out in the open

1020
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,280
now.
So now we got to deal with, we

1021
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,160
got to let William work through
his anger.

1022
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,320
And then there needs to be a
little bit of acceptance.

1023
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,920
And then he needs to figure out
what he's going to do because he

1024
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,520
can still tell people that he's
the 9th Earl of Ellesmere.

1025
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,080
And I think nobody would
question it.

1026
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:08,040
But he was raised by Lord John.
So I feel like he's going to

1027
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:13,640
have that same type of code of
honor that Lord John does.

1028
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,480
He's not going to want to lie.
He's not going to want to claim

1029
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,520
inheritance and property that
does not belong to him by right.

1030
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,440
So it's going to be interesting
to see where he goes from here.

1031
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:32,320
I don't think he will be that
quickly reconciled to lower John

1032
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,240
or Jamie.
Not like Brianna was, because

1033
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:40,360
Brianna literally had the truth
pushed in her face.

1034
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,920
You know, as far as Claire and
the stones with Gaylors Duncan,

1035
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,760
That's that's the other thing.
Brianna had something else.

1036
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,080
She had another catalyst to make
her say, oh, wait, my mom is not

1037
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,520
crazy.
She's telling the truth.

1038
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,640
William doesn't have any of
that, and he can't even add the

1039
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,960
people who he really wants to
ask.

1040
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,600
He can't even ask because both
Geneva and Isabel are gone.

1041
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,600
Yeah.
So even if Jamie were to tell

1042
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,840
him the truth about what
happened, he's only hearing

1043
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,280
Jamie's side of the story.
Jamie.

1044
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,800
I mean, truthfully, he doesn't
know Jamie.

1045
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,520
He doesn't know that Jamie is
also an honorable man.

1046
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,200
So if Jamie were to come to him
and say, yeah, your mom

1047
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:25,000
basically blackmailed me because
she didn't want to be a virgin

1048
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,120
when she got married to this 80
something year old man, William

1049
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,000
could always say you might be
lying.

1050
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,920
I mean, think about it.
She he even asked Claire like,

1051
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,960
was it rape?
And I'm like, do you everything

1052
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,520
that you know about Claire?
Do you think Claire will be with

1053
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:45,000
Jamie if he raped, like if he
raped Geneva?

1054
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,560
And not only that, but the
product of that, quote, UN quote

1055
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,080
rape was walking around?
That's not clear.

1056
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,840
Right.
And I'm gonna talk about it with

1057
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,240
you like that.
Don't even seem.

1058
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:55,680
Yeah.
Right.

1059
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,960
But again, he's he's a little.
Place he's spiraling so.

1060
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:07,440
Yeah, so I, but I just, again,
like I said, I just kind of

1061
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:11,080
wanna reach through the screen
and kind of give him a hug and

1062
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,520
say it's gonna be OK.
But yeah, he's going to have to

1063
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,960
go through some stuff because
now he really, really has to

1064
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,680
grow up.
Yeah, he.

1065
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:25,200
Does like, no doubt about it now
there's way too much stuff going

1066
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,560
on.
And then depending on what

1067
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,200
happens with Lord John, like if
he wasn't shot, but maybe he was

1068
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,800
recaptured, that's going to add
some stuff.

1069
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:38,480
And then once they started
realizing, OK, there might be

1070
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,560
something seriously wrong
because he has not come back

1071
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:47,320
yet, just like with Missus Fix
saying, yeah, so Lord John was

1072
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:51,680
supposed to, he was supposed to
go to General Clinton, and he

1073
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,960
hasn't shown up yet.
And that's when Jamie and Claire

1074
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,840
realized that he's been recalled
to action.

1075
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,480
Now they really going to have to
see him be like, oh, shit, what

1076
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,600
do we do?
Like Jamie is going to have to

1077
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:06,240
go and fix that somehow.
And I don't know how he's going

1078
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:11,000
to do that unless, oh, wait,
unless he calls on his new

1079
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,920
friend George Washington, and be
like, hey, I know he's a British

1080
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,960
soldier.
I know he's an enemy.

1081
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:21,200
But did you do me a favor?
And release him and release him.

1082
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,080
That's what I thought was going
to happen.

1083
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,840
But when he didn't mention and
he didn't mention it, I was

1084
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,880
like, well damn.
He's just really just leaving

1085
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,479
them out there to drive.
Because he probably didn't think

1086
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,000
that it was going to be
something that serious.

1087
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:39,920
Because this is, again, like,
like Lord John said, this is a

1088
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:46,279
distant cousin that would be
like me being held responsible

1089
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,319
for something that one of my
second or third cousins who I've

1090
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:56,040
never met has done.
But back then, I guess they

1091
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,560
really don't care.
They're like, oh, your name is

1092
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:58,680
Grey.
OK, you'll do.

1093
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,600
Yeah, that's it.
That's all we need.

1094
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,479
That's all we need.
That's all we need.

1095
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,960
But no, not that one.
Y'all can't have him.

1096
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,240
No.
So something's gonna have to

1097
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:16,880
happen whether he has another
escape attempt or whether

1098
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,120
somebody comes to his rescue and
be like OK, look, y'all can't

1099
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:27,760
hang this man because ABC.
Something's gonna have to happen

1100
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,160
though, because Lord John needs
1.

1101
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,200
He needs to escape so he can go
get that ugly ass eye looked at

1102
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,160
because that thing looks.
Horrible, horrible.

1103
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,520
Horrible.
It does.

1104
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,479
Like, like Jamie, were you only
focusing on the left side of his

1105
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,800
face?
Right.

1106
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,720
Oh my goodness.
So yeah, he needs to get that

1107
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,840
taken care of before he's
permanently mine.

1108
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:56,640
And then he'll be no good to
nobody because they're just

1109
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,520
going to look at him and be
like, oh, you're blind, you

1110
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,080
can't serve in the Army, you
can't do this, you can't do

1111
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,080
that.
What good are you?

1112
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,480
That's how they're going to
treat him.

1113
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,800
It's bad though.
It it, it really is.

1114
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,720
It is 'cause he can't even move
his eyeball up and down.

1115
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:18,920
So yeah, he needs to be rescued.
He needs to escape.

1116
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,560
Whatever part.
Pardon him, Whatever.

1117
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,160
Yeah, part part of him.
Because 1 He didn't go into the

1118
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,360
town to blow it up.
That was his cousin who did all

1119
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,760
that.
And no, just leave him alone.

1120
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,120
I'm just.
I'm just to the point where I'm

1121
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,000
like, leave the Fraser's alone.
Leave Ian alone.

1122
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:44,000
Leave Lord John Gray alone.
Give them some time to get

1123
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:49,720
through all this mess, this big
mess that they have made of

1124
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:54,520
their lives.
And I guess let Jamie go to war

1125
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:58,120
and take his frustrations out on
killing British soldiers.

1126
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,000
I don't know.
I don't know.

1127
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,840
I'm just, oh, that that episode
was so hard to watch at the

1128
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,400
beginning because I knew what
was coming.

1129
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,560
And Lord John, the whole thing
with Jamie being dead, Lord

1130
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,280
John, Mary and Claire sleeping
with her.

1131
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:22,320
That was something I was spoiled
about years ago before I ever

1132
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,400
read it in the book.
So I knew it was coming.

1133
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,720
But I thought it was more of a
like, when people said Lord John

1134
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:33,280
and Claire slept together, I
really was thinking I was like,

1135
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,000
they must have, I don't know,
maybe falling in love with each

1136
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:42,160
other in their grief because I
didn't know what the time span

1137
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,600
was.
I just knew that this happened.

1138
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,680
So I was like, OK.
And then they're like, yeah,

1139
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,240
when Jamie finally came back, he
beat Lord John almost to death.

1140
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,440
And I was just like.
What?

1141
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:59,000
So yeah, it was a, it was a hard
watch.

1142
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:03,280
I literally had to keep pausing
it 'cause I was just like, I

1143
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,280
don't know how this is gonna go.
And then every Time Lord John

1144
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,120
opened his mouth, I had the
positive.

1145
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,800
You like, shut up, John, shut
up, John, you're making it

1146
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,440
worse.
You're making it worse.

1147
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,480
Shut up.
Why are you saying this?

1148
01:12:15,480 --> 01:12:19,240
Why did you say that?
Oh, my God, It's, that's

1149
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,800
literally how I watched this
episode because it was just so

1150
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,160
much.
And I was just sitting there

1151
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:29,480
tense.
And when I say David Berry and

1152
01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:36,200
and Sam Hewin, they nailed that
scene because you could feel

1153
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,800
everything coming off of them in
waves.

1154
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,720
And I was just like, I can't do
this.

1155
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,120
I can't watch this.
Please kiss and make up or do

1156
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,080
some shake hands and make up or
do just do something and make up

1157
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,960
and go home because no one was
going to happen.

1158
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,000
Like I'm like, no, I know Lord
John is about to be captured and

1159
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,960
all this stuff.
I don't want that.

1160
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,360
Just make up and be happy and
just OK.

1161
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,240
But yeah, it's not going to
happen anytime soon.

1162
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:05,880
They just need to rescue him
though.

1163
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,200
Yeah.
That's all I'm saying.

1164
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:12,080
Rescue him and then give us a
little bit more of Ian and

1165
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,000
Rachel now that they are like
fully.

1166
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,720
Oh, now they are trolled.
Because let me tell you now that

1167
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,920
they are controlling.
Yes.

1168
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,240
Rachel I have a feeling we're
about to see a whole different

1169
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,680
side to Rachel.
Because right, that's not tell.

1170
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,800
I told you, I want that cap.
I want that cap off.

1171
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:32,920
I want that cap off.
I want I want that woman.

1172
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,080
Woman seen.
Wonder Woman seen.

1173
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:41,200
Yeah.
Campo take that hair and she in

1174
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,480
battle take somebody.
Slapping British soldiers.

1175
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:48,080
Yes, take him down for her, man,
Take him down.

1176
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,520
Oh goodness.
Yeah.

1177
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:57,960
OK, but did we skip over
anything?

1178
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,160
I feel like we missed something
but I don't.

1179
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,400
I think we talked about.
Everything we talked about,

1180
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,880
everything.
OK, I guess if we miss

1181
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,080
something, we'll just we'll
we'll pick it up and.

1182
01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:15,840
We talked about we because they
they was really focused on

1183
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,360
William.
William and then Laura.

1184
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,200
John, Laura.
John and Jamie and Claire.

1185
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,920
Yeah, OK.
Yeah.

1186
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,120
Because I I.
'Cause we didn't get a lot of of

1187
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:35,520
anyone else or anything else.
No, because this this was like

1188
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,640
literally the explosive episode
this was.

1189
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,200
Right, that's what I'm saying
this is.

1190
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:43,600
This is just a fallout from that
one scene at the end of last

1191
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,640
episode.
And I knew when when they

1192
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:51,000
released the episode titles and
I saw that this one was carnal

1193
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,960
knowledge, I said, OK, I'm gonna
have to prepare for this one

1194
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,200
because I knew this one was
going to be a heavy episode.

1195
01:14:56,480 --> 01:15:00,560
I knew I was like, oh, I'm gonna
have to see John, Lord John get

1196
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,960
his ass whooped.
That's why in the last episode

1197
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,360
when you were like, yeah, they
just need to fight it out a

1198
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,120
little bit and that'll be all
right.

1199
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:12,360
I was like, oh, be careful what
you asked for because that

1200
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,880
wasn't a little fight like.
No.

1201
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:19,840
I think in the I think he wasn't
as bad in the show as he was in

1202
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,280
the books, because I do believe
in the books he was.

1203
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,920
I think I think Jamie may have
broken some ribs or something

1204
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:30,000
like he was, he was hurt.
Oh, he was hurt, hurt.

1205
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:41,320
So, OK, so just in case this is
the holiday season, Michelle and

1206
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,280
I both work in education and we
are kind of finishing up this

1207
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,920
week before the break.
So our episodes maybe a couple

1208
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,000
of days late, but we are still
recording as soon as we can find

1209
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,160
the time.
And, you know, our regular

1210
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,080
recording schedule for the
remainder of the year is

1211
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:03,200
probably going to be kind of
sporadic because trying to

1212
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:08,240
wrangle the two of us is hard
enough, but also with the guys

1213
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:12,120
trying to do the stuff that we
are doing and all of our

1214
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,840
schedules, it's just kind of
impossible right now.

1215
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,800
But we are going to be bringing
you newer episodes, especially

1216
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,720
in January.
We will be covering Doom

1217
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,880
Prophecy.
Laurie will be back with us

1218
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,520
after an extended hiatus to deal
with some personal stuff.

1219
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,800
So Laurie will be back to
discuss doing Prophecy with us.

1220
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:39,120
Marvel's What If is coming out
in a few days for the final

1221
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:40,960
season.
Oh, is it?

1222
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,760
Yes, December 22nd and then.
An.

1223
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:50,120
Episode every day for eight days
and that is the season series

1224
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,280
finale, so we will be covering
that.

1225
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,760
We still have a Darrell Dixon
episode to talk about.

1226
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,560
We still have a few episodes for
the boys to talk about, so we

1227
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:05,280
will be bringing you that
content starting at the

1228
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,640
beginning of 2025.
But for now, that is it for our

1229
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,680
show.
You can find us online at

1230
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,960
www.phantomhybrid.com.
We are on social media, on all

1231
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,760
the social media at Phantom
Hybrid.

1232
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,960
You can watch our videos on our
YouTube channel, you can chat

1233
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,200
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1234
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,000
major podcast streaming
platforms.

1235
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:26,760
Thanks for listening.
We hope you join the

1236
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:54,880
conversation next time.
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