Outlander S7E13 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #326

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Michelle and we are
discussing Outlanders season 7

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episode 13 in which Michelle
gets her wish.

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She finally gets to see Rachel
let that hair down.

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Yeah, she let it down.
Let it down.

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I would have been a little bit
more excited if she had it down

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at that wedding, 'cause I was
like you still tucking their

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hair pieces.
Take it off, Take it off.

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But I'm glad she headed down.
Yeah, I'm wondering if has.

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To has to keep that on like as a
single person, 'cause you know,

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some especially with, with their
with their religion, maybe she

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has to keep her head covered
while she is single and now that

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she's married, maybe in future
episodes we'll see her at least

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with it uncovered, if not free
flowing.

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I mean, you get to see it free
flowing in the bed, so I don't.

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Know OK I was excited I.
Was excited but I would say this

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too with with their with their
little honeymoon scene or

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wedding night scene.
I felt very uncomfortable

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watching this 'cause I felt like
I was watching 2 of my children

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and I was just like I.
I get, I get that.

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I had to Fast forward because of
watching the episode.

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It's amazing when when nothing
is happening, nobody is coming

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down the stairs, walking around
and then when stuff is happening

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they in the kitchen and I'm
thinking OK, they staying in the

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kitchen no problem.
As soon as they go into their

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bed I'll say oh hell, why she
had to come?

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I don't know what's about to
happen.

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So I was Fast forward until they
were to the end while they were

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talking.
So I kind of missed it, which

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I'm glad because yeah, they are
our kids.

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So that's a little.
It, it was very strange because

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I was watching it and I'm like,
OK, yay.

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They, they finally are married.
They get to have some, some

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cuddle time.
And then while I was watching, I

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was like, I feel really
uncomfortable watching this.

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And I had to pause it a couple
of times and then I finally got

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through and I was just like,
yeah, I don't think I can do

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that again.
It's, it's like watching your

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children are watching your
children's friends.

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It was just, it's different from
watching Jamie and Claire,

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right?
And I have the same issue with

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Brianna and Roger to be honest
with.

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OK.
So it is because of the kids.

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Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Got no problem with Jamie and

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Claire, yeah?
None at all.

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So yeah.
Except for the except for the

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wedding night episode, which I
rewatched last week, I was like,

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OK.
You had a problem with that I.

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Didn't have a problem with it.
I was just like, do I need to

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leave the room?
I mean, I just kind of felt

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like, oh, oh, I'm just spying on
them.

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Yes, yeah, it it does feel like
that for that one, Yeah.

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So, so, OK, so let's talk about
this episode 'cause there were

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other things happening aside
from the wedding that we have

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been waiting for.
How did you feel about the

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reveal of Jeremiah McKenzie?
Dad.

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Oh, that was so sweet.
But you know how you know what I

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wanted to say?
Tell him.

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Tell him who you are.
But you know what?

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I.
Thought I mean, I understand

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why, I do understand why, but I
just wanted to 'cause he was

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talking about just in case he
don't come out the right way

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with, you know, the time with
his son.

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I just want you to be like your
son.

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I'm your son and I'm OK.
I, I made it.

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But you know what?
I feel like Roger may have

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thought if he told his dad that
right before he went through the

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stones, that would have been on
his mind and he probably would

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have come back the way that him
and Brianna and Jimmy did when

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they left and they were trying
to get home and home for them is

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where Jamie and Claire is.
So I'm thinking that's why he

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did it.
Especially when he tells Buck

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later when he was talking about
when they got ready to go

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through the stones.
He was thinking of.

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Jamie But when he touched the he
had a brief moment about

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thinking of his father and how
much he misses having his dad.

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And how he misses dad and how
you know his son would miss his

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dad.
So it was cool.

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It was cool to see great great
grandfather, father and son

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going through the woods.
That was sweet and everything.

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They did really good with the
casting too because I'm looking

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at them like if they did.
All three of them together.

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Yeah, they did a they did a
great job with that.

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It was sweet.
I, I, I truly enjoyed it.

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But they, they tied some science
in there for me.

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So, you know, I loved it because
Roger figured out like, oh,

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Brianna was talking about, she
felt felty underneath in the

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dam.
So if we go all the way back,

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maybe Stones was at the top.
I'm like, good job, Rodger.

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Yeah, 'cause like Buck said, he
was like, yeah, your time, we

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will be standing under
underwater right now because,

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because the dam flooded that
whole little valley.

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So yeah, that was that was
interesting.

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The other interesting part was
of, of course, parallel to that

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part of the story, you have the
reveal of Jimmy, who is actually

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in the dam because that's where
that's where Rob Cameron took

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him.
So Jimmy is remembering what Bri

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told him about how she got out
of the tunnels.

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So when he comes to that part
where you see the little shimmer

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of the the portal and he can
hear Rodger calling and then

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Rodger can hear a little bit of
Jim calling when they did that

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and Roger was like, is that a
young boy?

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I said wait, I thought.
I, I thought so too and I was

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like, oh they changed up,
Hanukkah lied to me, they

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changed it.
He's going to be there.

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And then when, when it shows
what it show the sister saying I

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can feel him again.
I said well damn, they throwing

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us off again.
That little boy over there

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underneath the rock ain't him.
Was I?

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I was panicking because I was
like, if Jim goes back, like,

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how are they going to fix this?
I should have known better, but

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still, it was like one of those
things.

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I thought he, I thought he did.
And I was like, Oh my gosh, this

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is amazing.
Like all the generations going

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to be together and we got to get
them back home.

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That's what I thought, but it
was some random kid.

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So I'm like, oh, OK.
Right, but the random kid at

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least did get them to Jeremiah,
so that was good.

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But I was sitting there like, Oh
my God, what are they doing?

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How are they going to do what?
How is Brianna going?

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I was just, I was so confused
because it, but at the same time

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too, it's kind of like when
Jimmy was approaching that

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little portal, Remember Brianna,
when she saw it, she ran

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straight through it and she
didn't go anywhere.

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And maybe that's because the
stones are not there.

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Or, you know, I'm not the
science person, so I don't know

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how to say well.
I'm just assuming like because

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the stones are at the top and
the stones are there, that's

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just like a remainder, a remnant
of it.

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So yeah, when take it.
But I thought it could cause Dad

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or Rodger was calling and he
heard them.

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I was like, then I'm thinking,
Oh my gosh, it will actually

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take him.
But no, it didn't 'cause they

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really do need the actual stones
and he didn't have actual any

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stones on him.
Yeah, I jewelry stone.

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Stuck.
They would have been stuck or

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killed so.
I don't know whether Jimmy.

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Actually went through it.
Or if he decided like Brianna

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was like, Nah, let me not touch
this, let me go find another

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way.
But he ends up outside and then

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Brianna ends up finding him.
But that, that little part, I

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love the way that they did it
because it was kind of parallel,

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because you have Rodger looking
for Jeremiah and you think he's

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about to find the one that he's
actually looking for.

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And then he finds the one that
was the mistake.

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And I love it 'cause I was like,
OK, you have all of these

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Mackenzie's right there.
But like you say, it would have

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been nice if.
Jim, all of them.

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Was there?
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But then that would have
complicated things because

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Brianna would have never known
that Jim actually did go through

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the stones, Especially once she
finds out that he's not in the

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past and that Rob Cameron has
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Speaking of Rob Cameron, let me
tell you, he's lucky that Bree

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only slapped him and kicked him
at the beginning.

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Because the way he was and the
way he was acting, I was like,

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I'd have beat him.
I'd have been like, you can tell

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me where my son is.
But now she's got bigger

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problems because he's somehow
gotten out.

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Of which means he had to have
help.

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There is no way he could have
got out of there.

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He has to have help and stuff
so.

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Which is going to be dangerous
for her because it's just her

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and and Mandy right now she
doesn't have anybody else there

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to to protect her.
So I don't know.

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But they don't know camera.
Yeah, but I also liked the

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discussion when they were
talking about Rodger and then

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was talking about he was like, I
don't remember.

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I think I should remember having
time with my dad if I see him

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back.
If he went back, yeah.

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If he went back and I like Buck
was like, no, 'cause we already

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stupid so we wouldn't have the
memory, yeah.

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Yeah, he was like, we're in the
past, we're before, we're before

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our time, and I don't have any
memories of this.

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Right.
So yeah, so it's it's I like

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that.
So we'll we will see what ends

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up happening.
So for me, I was hoping what you

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say so.
There's a multiverse.

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Oh yeah, well, yes.
But then I got excited because

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I'm like, OK, you send Dad back,
and I'm hoping that Dad pops up

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and helps Brianna.
So, you know, in my mind, I'm

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creating different stories.
That's probably not gonna

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happen.
That that would be a bit of a

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push.
And I say that because he would

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have no one.
He doesn't know that Roger is

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his son, so he would have no he
would have no way to to begin

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looking unless he goes to the
old Reverend Wakefield's house.

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But if he went Fiona is living.
But he wouldn't have even known

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that Roger ended up with
Reverend Wakefield.

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So it would be it would be a big
stretch.

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But if he went back as when he
was a little kid and raised him.

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Yeah, I'd so I, I.
We don't have no idea.

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So then that basically says then
he never went back.

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I don't.
He went back because if he,

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because not only if he went back
to raise Rodger, that would

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literally change everything
because Rodger would have never

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been at Reverend Wakefield's
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He would have never met Frank
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So that connection wouldn't have
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He would have never been around
to help Claire find Jade.

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So it's like it would have had a
domino effect.

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So I think.
Right.

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So that I'm just causing.
So that means he never did get

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back to Rodger as a baby or he
didn't still die.

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We don't know.
Could.

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Could have.
Yeah, could have.

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That's why I said you should
have just told him, just in case

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he got stuck in the stones
again.

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I went to another time, you know
what I'm saying?

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I went to another time.
But we didn't want him coming

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back to that time because the
people in that time were not

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being kind to.
Him.

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No, not at all.
Not at all looking.

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Like, OK, this fairy man is from
the devil.

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We're going to and then you
stole.

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You stole a goat, so they're
already looking for him.

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And Rodger was like, so what's
the punishment for him stealing

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the go?
Oh, he might take his hand.

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He might take his head for a
goat.

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Goat, you'd be like, wait, what?
OK, we got to get you out of

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here.
We'll figure out how to get out

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of here on our own.
We can do that, right?

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But you need to get out of here.
Yeah, but I do like, at the end,

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you know, we've been talking
back and forth about Rodger and,

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you know, whether or not Jim was
back in the past.

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And now that we know definitely
that he is not even Brianna is

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having doubts because when she's
having a conversation with

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Fiona, she was like, Rodger will
never come back without our son,

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but he has no way of knowing
that Jim is not there.

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So she's thinking that.
And, you know, that was

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something that we had also
talked about when we weren't

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sure whether Jimmy was in the
back.

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But now Rodger is kind of like,
OK, so if I was thinking about

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my dad and, you know, if I was
thinking about Jeremiah and

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ended up here with my dad to
possibly save him, I'm really

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thinking that Jeremiah, that my
Jeremiah is not here.

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So now I think Roger is really
about to be like, OK, we've been

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searching for at this point, it
could have been weeks, you know,

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that they've been there.
Nobody has seen this blonde

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child.
Nobody has seen him.

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So there's.
So at this point you got to be

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like.
Yeah, you, you got to use your

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deductive reasoning.
If nobody has seen a, a, a

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blonde haired child, either with
a man or without, like nobody's

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seen this child at all, then it
goes to figure that this child

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is not here.
So at this point, Rodger

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probably will try to make his
way back.

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But whether he goes back where
the buck goes back, 'cause like

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you said, they just gave their
last gem to Jeremiah, so now

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they got to find gems if they
are going to go back, I don't

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know.
Right.

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And I think he I think he
understands that Jimmy is not

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there because I think he get
realized that he was there to

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help his dad.
So now it's like you got to go

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through the stones and really
think about your son, which

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should lead you home currently.
That's what I'm thinking.

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It's going to going to happen.
So but that was that was a

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little sweet story with him
being able to actually see his

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dad, get to know his dad for a
second, see what his dad was

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doing to actually disappear.
Yeah, you know, knowing his dad

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was brave and courageous and
stuff and trying to end the war.

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But I'm going to tell you
something.

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I'm still mad at Jamie.
I'm disappoint.

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I'm not mad at him.
I'm disappointed.

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I'm still disappointed, OK, like
I'm disappointed because he he

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don't seem like he I'm.
I'm really cursing.

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I want to cry.
It's like he don't care what is

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going on with Lord Grey.
I'm like really upset about that

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because he's he's never been
that person.

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He's never been that person.
And now it's like, oh, he he's

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not around.
Fuck, no, he's not around.

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Like hello, you know, I'm saying
you more concerned that y'all in

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the bed that y'all they they
were messing around in but

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didn't concern about this.
You just left him out there.

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And then when I can't think of
the brother name.

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What's the brother name?
Denzel.

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Say something about it.
You can still don't show any

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concern.
You having conversations with

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Claire?
Get your ass out down the street

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and find this man 'cause you
caused this that.

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They wanted to hang him.
Right.

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He he didn't do anything to
deserve that.

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He has done a lot for you and
your child and he deserves A and

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for your wife for just one issue
to happen right where you don't

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give a fuck.
And now and.

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I was so ready to talk to you
about it.

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Because right, Right.
So this to me is like the ether

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and Claire to you.
That's how this is for me.

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Jamie would never have done this
and I don't like how they wrote

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that.
But he's he's not even mustering

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a fuck about it at all.
I mean, you can see a little bit

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of concern on not.
Enough to move.

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But I think part of it is if
Jamie looks too deeply at all of

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that right now, he's going to
realize that it's his fault that

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John is in this situation.
And I don't know if he wants to.

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You know, when he was having a
conversation with Claire in the

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bed, he said, you know, he said,
yeah, I'm mad at him.

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I hold him at fault, but I don't
want him dead, he said.

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And then William is just out
there.

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I don't know what's going on
with him.

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I think right now he's trying to
avoid looking in the mirror and

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seeing how much of this is his
fault, you know, and.

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I think I need him to move a
little bit quicker, yeah, and

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stuff.
Yeah, like that was OK living

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luxuriously in this man's house.
You at the wedding y'all just

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sitting there chilling until the
spirit moves you and all that

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you you don't.
This man could be dead.

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Yeah.
And Claire and did you ain't

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saying anything like you know
Claire.

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I know she happy days home.
I know I.

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I think she not just that, I
think in a sense she's trying to

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maybe give him the space to work
out his feelings on that.

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Because again, I understand why
Jamie is mad.

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And yes, it's a it's a sense of
pride.

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I do realize that.
But at some point Jamie does

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have to realize, like you said,
this man has been a trustworthy

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and valuable friend to you for
30 years.

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This man has raised your child.
This man has gotten you out of

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situate like Jamie.
Should be dead 2-3 times though.

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Right.
Right, and Lord John has always

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saved his ass even though they
are on opposite sides of this

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war.
They are literally enemies as

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far as that goes, but Lord John
always comes through in the

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clutch for him.
So yeah, I, I feel you on that.

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I'm kind of like, OK Jamie, I
understand you.

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You still mad and you want to
hold on to that anger, but bruh,

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you need to fix this.
Like you literally admit it.

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He was almost hanged on my
account.

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Right, so you get up right.
So that that part that that made

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me mad.
Yeah, OK.

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And even though I was enjoying
the wedding, that still made me

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mad.
They they was doing.

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That wedding for real though.
I did enjoy what it was funny to

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me.
It was looks and I just like

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when the spirit moves you and
everybody looked like they about

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sleep.
That's what was the funny part.

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And then that one part when he
was like, well, it was my fault

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and such such.
And Claire was like, I wouldn't

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say anything and you'll still
need to say anything.

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Yeah, I would advise you in the
spirit to keep quiet.

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On the matter, yeah.
Yeah, it was sweet because

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Denzel was sweet about what he
said about his sister and stuff

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at first, you know?
And was like, is he talking

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about me in a bad way?
But he wasn't.

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It was a sweet little wedding,
it.

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Was.
I just feel like it just took a

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beat too long.
Well, that's the part they would

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talk about because nobody was
moved.

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They were about sleep, lay by
sleep.

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And the the spirit didn't move
you to say, OK, look, I don't

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know what we're waiting for, but
I'm ready to make this woman my

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wife and but.
But Ian, has he been by herself

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some time?
He could not speak for a week,

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so he could be fine just sitting
there chilling.

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That that's true, but also I
think I think maybe if they had

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explained a little bit more to
everyone, because I think aside

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from the the three people in the
back, the Bertram's, that's the

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people who own the garden that
clear those too.

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I know in the books they are
also friends.

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So they're they're Quakers.
So aside from them, nobody else

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in the room was really sure what
to expect.

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And I think maybe if they had
had a longer explanation, which

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I do think they give in the
books to kind of let them know,

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OK, this is how this is how
friends meetings are and this is

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how we do things.
And I think if they had done

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maybe a little bit longer
explanation, a little bit more

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in depth, it wouldn't have felt
as awkward.

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But that first 15 minutes, and I
know it, it was supposed to feel

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awkward, but it was just kind of
like, can we hurry up?

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I just, yeah, I want to move on,
especially with that, with there

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being so many other things going
on.

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Yeah, like finding Lord try.
Great.

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Yeah, yeah, that part.
Too that too that.

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You know, that would have been
nice.

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But I mean, we have the all the
other stuff like with with Bree,

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you know, she finally goes to
the police once she finds Jimmy

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and then the police are
literally there accusing her of.

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Having an affair?
Where's your husband?

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Is there something else we
should know?

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So is there?
You had dinner with you.

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Has has a key to your house?
Are you sure you didn't?

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I was like, he was like, no need
to get hysterical, she said.

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Oh, you haven't seen hysterical
yet.

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I'm like I'm waiting for.
Yeah, but OK.

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Even so, Sir, even if we were
having an affair, even if I plan

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to leave him, leave my husband
and leave with him, he should

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not have kidnapped my kid and
put him in a dam by himself.

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There is no reason for that,
Sir.

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Right.
Yeah, that's.

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Why I'm totally different now if
he was banging on my door and

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begging me to leave with him
then y'all can question are

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y'all having an affair but
kidnapping my son?

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Yeah, yeah.
So, but you know, I guess there.

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She did the smartest thing
though.

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She did the smartest thing.
Besides giving her kids to the

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friend, she also gave the
letters Praise you, thank you

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for thinking.
But but what do they have to go

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through in order for them to
realize they need to secure that

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damn?
Box.

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I don't know.
I was like great idea this time.

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Great.
That is great.

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I but I'm glad she has Fiona.
Yeah, I do, because Fiona is

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she's been she she's such a help
in this because she has nobody

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else to talk to.
Like, who else would she be able

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to say?
Well, yeah, my husband kind of

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went to the past to go search
for my child and and be able to

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explain that and have somebody
to kind of shoot the ideas back

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and forth between and right.
Because you have to walk around

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and say, well, I don't know why
Cameron took him.

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Yeah, you do.
But at least she can say that

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like, well, yeah, he wanted the
the gold.

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He wanted that.
We don't necessarily know if he

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knows where the gold is.
Yeah, because you should have

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asked him.
But that's neither here nor

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there.
But you know, I'm sitting here

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wondering if if there's, I don't
know it like is there a way that

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she could still explain that to
the cops and it not be

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suspicious?
I mean, I guess she could if

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they were to, if they were to
ask to look at, look at the

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letters, then they probably like
that might be a little funny,

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but you know, everybody in their
letters, they are very careful

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not to say anything about them,
you know, being from the past or

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anything like that.
But she don't even have to

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mention that part because you
already set up that Rodger is on

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business out of town.
You can just be like Rodger is

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from money.
Yeah.

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And Cameron kidnapped him
wanting money.

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Or or she could because we
found.

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We, we, we say that our family
has gold in United States.

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We have a history on our family
has some gold in the United

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States.
And Roger mentioned that one

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time and that he, he just
assumed that we really do have

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gold.
And that's all you got to say.

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Like one of our, our ancestors
has said they left us a, a, a

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chest of gold.
And we always make fun of that.

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And we mentioned it to him at
dinner and I guess he really

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took it like our family has a
chest of gold.

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But then I I guess the question
would end up being so why didn't

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he kidnap one of you 2 instead
of the child?

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Like what would the child know?
So I guess it would still get a

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little murdered.
Because you no, because you

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would, you would make sure you
really said something.

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If it's your kid, if it's you,
be like, I'm not.

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We don't have gold.
We don't believe you.

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Bang, bang you dead.
But it's serious time when it's

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your kid being kidnapped like
you.

448
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:36,520
You can't lie.
You have to tell the truth.

449
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,240
Yeah, but the fact that you
still ain't found no gold.

450
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,920
OK, I'm just telling you, Rob
Cameron.

451
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,200
I don't know if I want to say he
needs to die, but he needs to

452
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,360
have his ass seriously whipped
for.

453
00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:53,880
All of that, yeah, he can go
ahead.

454
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,000
He can go ahead and die 'cause
he, he, he gonna die, he gonna

455
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,520
have to die, Yeah, 'cause he
gonna keep coming back and he

456
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,120
gonna tell the secret.
And he's got help.

457
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:08,760
So now she's got to sit here and
figure out who's who helped him

458
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,400
because who would have who would
have known to come looking for

459
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,880
Rob at that particular house?
Like, is this somebody that she

460
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,720
already knows?
Is this some somebody that Rob

461
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,240
just gave the information?
At this point, she doesn't

462
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,440
really know because again, going
back to a conversation we had a

463
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,920
few episodes ago, you know, they
pretty much keep to themselves,

464
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,240
probably because of the fact
that they they have this secret

465
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,240
that they're trying to keep and
they're trying to make sure that

466
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,200
nobody else finds it out.
But you also put yourself in a

467
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,600
difficult position because
again, aside from Fiona and her

468
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,720
husband, who her husband has no
idea what's going on, you don't

469
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,720
really have anybody that you do
that that can help you or that

470
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,480
can back you up.
So, yeah, so now she's gonna

471
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,320
have to figure that out and then
at the same time, try to figure

472
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,680
out what she's gonna do about
the fact that her husband is in

473
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,120
the past looking for their child
and their child is not there.

474
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,560
You know, And I felt bad for
Jimmy because he he feels

475
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,480
guilty.
He was like, if I had gotten out

476
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,360
sooner, if I had figured it out
sooner, then dad wouldn't have

477
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,800
had to go through the stones.
I'm like, baby, that is not your

478
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,560
fault.
No it's not.

479
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,200
It's a crazy man's fault.
Not your fault at all.

480
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:27,560
But the fact that he was able to
figure out what to do and to get

481
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:35,280
out, OK, so all, all of y'all
look, having, having a, a type

482
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,880
of life where you can go back
and forth through these standing

483
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,040
stones, you got to be smart
'cause you have to, you have to

484
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,720
be able to think on the fly.
And I'm glad you did that.

485
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,200
And it was so cute 'cause he was
sitting there and then he was

486
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,640
like, OK, on your feet, soldier,
as granny would say.

487
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,600
And I love the fact that he
remembers that because for him

488
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,360
that would have been four, maybe
five years ago.

489
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,960
So the fact that he kept that in
mind and he went from there, I

490
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,720
was like, OK.
The Claire.

491
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,600
Claire and Jamie are still
having positive influences on

492
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,320
the.
Right.

493
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,400
Yeah, They, they have imprinted
with him.

494
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,280
He they, he spent a good
beginning part of his life with

495
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,200
him.
So some things are not going to

496
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,920
go away.
He may not remember what they

497
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,200
look like, but he'll remember
the things that they said to

498
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,080
him.
Yeah.

499
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,840
So.
Yeah, but I'm trying to think

500
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,760
there was something else in this
episode.

501
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,920
I won't say what else was in
this episode.

502
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,680
Boy, what do we spend a lot of
time?

503
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:41,320
Oh, see, we spend a lot of time
with Roger figure out the

504
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,120
stones, which also I like that
part because it kind of told us

505
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,640
that there's, there are other
places where there are stones,

506
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,120
but we don't know, 'cause I got
could have got torn down.

507
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,520
Yeah.
And then so it'll be nice if she

508
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,960
writes a book about like, I
don't know, the beginning of the

509
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,400
stones.
Maybe they were used for travel.

510
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,520
I don't know.
I'm just making some stuff up

511
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,720
back now.
It'll be nice.

512
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,480
Like the history of the standing
Stones, because we've seen,

513
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,120
yeah, we've seen what Craig Le
Dune.

514
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,760
We've seen the ones that were in
Jamaica.

515
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,240
What was that?
A bundle way we've seen Ocracoke

516
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,880
and then we've seen these right
here and these don't even exist

517
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,840
in the the current time so yeah,
that's only four and that's what

518
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,920
England, I mean Scotland, North
Carolina or was what was

519
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,840
Ocracoke and yeah, Ocracoke was
in North Carolina and then in

520
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,160
Jamaica and then this is another
one in Scotland so.

521
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,520
I thought there was another one
in the the US.

522
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,240
I the only one that I know of
right now is just Ocracoke.

523
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,960
That's the one that Brianna and
Rodger.

524
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,240
And Wendigo went through two.
I thought he came from up north.

525
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,000
You know, that's a good
question.

526
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,520
He came from a different one.
Because they did get separated.

527
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,360
Otter Tooth I think came through
Ocracoke.

528
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,160
But yeah, Wendigo Donner.
And then he said they were what?

529
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,640
There were five of them all
together and none of them came

530
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,680
through together or or it could
have been that he came through

531
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,960
in a different year.
Right, but I thought it was a

532
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,600
different location.
I don't know, but I, I don't

533
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,680
recall him mentioning where he
came through.

534
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,400
But yeah, the IT would be
interesting.

535
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,320
Look, maybe that's what Rodger
needs to write a book on when he

536
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,680
finally gets back.
Instead of talking about how to

537
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,960
go through the stones, because
we already see what kind of

538
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,520
trouble you got into for that,
maybe you can just write a book

539
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:59,720
about the standing stones and
about maybe not the magical part

540
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,000
of it and going through the
stones.

541
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,080
But yeah, he went through the
one in North Carolina.

542
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Ocracoke OK, OK.
So yeah, because I think that's

543
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,840
the one that that's the one that
Roger passed on his way to the

544
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,240
Mohawk.
I think that one was no, no,

545
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,520
you're right.
That was a different one.

546
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,560
That wasn't Aquacoke.
I don't think because the one

547
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,760
the standing stones are
Aquacoke, they got to it via

548
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:42,160
boat, remember, And then when
Rodger and Brianna were going

549
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,320
through within, they took a
horse carriage the whole way.

550
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,280
So I don't know now.
Now I feel like I have to go

551
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,520
back and look just to be sure.
Yeah, and I'm just trying to

552
00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:01,640
search it up.
Yeah, but Jamie Fraser in a

553
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,400
uniform.
Oh, that was nice.

554
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,200
I I loved it when she was like,
well at least it's the right

555
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,120
color this time.
I love it.

556
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,960
Yeah.
But even with this, yeah, I'm

557
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,800
kind of with you, especially now
that you are a general Jamie,

558
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:26,440
you have a little more, you have
a few more resources at at hand.

559
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,360
I need you to go find your
friend.

560
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,360
Y'all can fight, be upset with
each other.

561
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,160
Don't speak to each other after
that please.

562
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,640
I do.
I I need you to find him to make

563
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,960
sure he's all right.
Yeah, make sure they I do.

564
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,840
That's the one thing.
That's the one thing that like

565
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:48,560
really upset me in this episode,
like just the the disregard.

566
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,480
It seemed like disregard.
I know he cares but it just

567
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,360
seemed like disregard.
I think he's just trying to hold

568
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,600
on to that anger because I mean
it.

569
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,480
I know he just seemed like he
came back a little different,

570
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,920
that's all.
And I understand he, he is

571
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,920
dealing with a trauma and stuff,
you know, his brother, best

572
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,120
friend really just died to be
honest with you.

573
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,200
So I, I, I, I get it, but I need
him to kind of.

574
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,200
Well, I mean and then you care
about others that you were

575
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,400
presumed dead.
You find out that your wife

576
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,320
married your best friend and not
only married him, but also slept

577
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,960
with him.
And then your son finds out that

578
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,760
you or his dad on top of all
that.

579
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920
So he's dealing with a lot.
I get it.

580
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:42,120
I think The thing is he's gonna
have to face that what he did to

581
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:48,120
John really was not warranted.
And it's it's gonna make him

582
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,280
look at himself, I think, in a
different light as well.

583
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,960
And I think he's just trying to
avoid that because again, this

584
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,480
is this is a guy who is for all
intents and purposes, this is

585
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,160
your best friend.
This is a man who has never

586
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,120
disrespected you.
Even with him having feelings

587
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,120
for you, he's never crossed that
line.

588
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,080
Yeah, he has never.
Been disrespectful.

589
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,000
He's never approached Claire in
a less than respectful way.

590
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,800
Even when him and Claire were
kind of bumping heads, there was

591
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,159
still a little bit of respect
there because he knew how much

592
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:29,040
Jamie loved Claire.
So at, yeah, at some point,

593
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,480
Jamie's going to have to sit
there and reevaluate his

594
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,080
behavior and the things that
he's done and be like, OK, you

595
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,280
know what?
I might have overreacted just a

596
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,159
little bit.
And then he may not like the

597
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:45,600
person that he sees when he does
that, but just go ahead, do it.

598
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,360
Get it over with.
Go get your friend back.

599
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,199
And then you need to go figure
out where the hell your son is

600
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,080
'cause we don't see William at
all in this episode.

601
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,520
Right, like you know, find out
where he is so you can see how

602
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,960
he feels.
Help him along here.

603
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,160
Yeah, 'cause the last time you
saw him, you kind of threatened

604
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,480
him.
Like that is correct.

605
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,560
This mess.
Correct.

606
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,720
And then we'll deal with all
this other stuff later.

607
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:19,680
So, but OK, so Ian has his
happiness, are you?

608
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,200
Happy.
Yeah, yeah, I am happy.

609
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,640
I'm happy.
And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm very

610
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,520
happy.
For me.

611
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,440
It was very sweet.
And I'm I'm more happy that she

612
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,400
took that hairpiece off.
When she took her hair that I

613
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,000
said, oh, Michelle is going to
be so.

614
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,080
Happy because and then I was
smiling because he basically

615
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,760
said, oh, right.
And then, you know, he got to

616
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,280
feel that.
Oh, you got a butt?

617
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,720
That is so funny because she was
like, you don't really have a

618
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:51,440
butt, but I like it, yeah.
Yeah, OK.

619
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:55,080
And it was so funny 'cause when,
when Ian was trying to get, when

620
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,120
he was getting the advice from
Jamie and they were talking

621
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,840
about, you know, how he should
be with her and stuff and he

622
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,200
should be gentle and blah, blah,
blah.

623
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,120
And then Rachel was there.
She was like, come take this off

624
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,440
me husband, I'm ready to go.
I.

625
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,640
Was like, yeah, OK, look at that
conversation.

626
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,400
I like that conversation too,
'cause, you know, Jane was like,

627
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:21,000
yeah, it was my first time.
Well, the the the Auntie Claire

628
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,600
take the Auntie Claire was just
with you.

629
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:27,800
God knows.
And I love the fact that he

630
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,080
brought up Dougal and Rupert and
Angus.

631
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,320
Yeah, because that I remember
that episode so well.

632
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,520
And they were telling him all
this stuff and he's just looking

633
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,160
at them like, and Ian was like,
so was their advice.

634
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:47,320
Good God, No, no, no, but it it
was a very sweet episode.

635
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:53,720
Now I will say this.
So they have made one major

636
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:59,160
change to the show that is is a
change from the books.

637
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,640
And that is the fact that, and I
can say this now that Jenny is

638
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,920
not in the States because in the
books, you know, when they had

639
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,600
that conversation, when in the
show where Jamie was like, well,

640
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,880
you can come to America with me
and she says no.

641
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,880
And the opposite.
She asked Jamie.

642
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,360
She said, well, there's nothing
keeping me here at Lally Brock

643
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,960
now.
She was like Michael and his

644
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:24,240
wife are now, you know, they're
layered so or or not Michael, I

645
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:27,640
think it was young Jamie.
She said they're in charge now.

646
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,480
I have no place here.
I've never, I've never left

647
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,560
Lolly Brock.
I want to go to the States with

648
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,640
you.
So Jenny actually comes to the

649
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,560
States with Jamie.
And eventually when all this

650
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,080
stuff, you know, it's over,
she's there.

651
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,680
She's in a lot of the stuff, you
know.

652
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,680
So she, she's a big part of the
story.

653
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,520
So the fact that she's not here
now, I'm just kind of, I'm a

654
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,400
little sad about that.
Oh, yeah.

655
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,360
Because in the books, you get to
see Ian kind of build this

656
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,600
relationship with his mother.
And then of course, he he gets

657
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,880
married to Rachel.
So Rachel also gets to build the

658
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,680
relationship with her.
And, you know, she gets to learn

659
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,400
about Brianna.
She finds out about William.

660
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:15,520
And it's just, you know, she
adds, she adds a lot of humor

661
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,600
and fun to the Ridge and to
where I, I forget where they are

662
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,160
now, Philadelphia.
And, you know, just her presence

663
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,240
is just better.
So the fact that she's not in

664
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,160
the show, I'm a little sad about
that.

665
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,240
But I'm hoping maybe at some
point she will have decided to

666
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:36,640
come over and she'll still be
included, especially because it

667
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:43,360
seems like they are starting to
bring people into into the show

668
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,320
that I thought wasn't going to
be in there.

669
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,040
Like, you know, we saw in the
last episode they brought Jane

670
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,280
into the show.
And I wasn't sure if they were

671
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,360
going to do that this late
because I think he encounters

672
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,400
her a little bit earlier in the
storyline.

673
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,560
But yeah, so hopefully we'll
basically.

674
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,840
If we try to fire William,
that's where he at you with

675
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,400
Jane.
He might be.

676
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Sleeping for real.
I mean for real like he's

677
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,600
sleeping and she's sleeping and
they even and talking.

678
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,000
And she she gonna be mad about
sleeping, but she gonna, Yeah.

679
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,600
If he's paying her to sleep.
Yeah.

680
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,040
Yeah.
But OK.

681
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,520
We have any final thoughts about
this episode?

682
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,880
I think we got some good stuff
out this episode.

683
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,800
We just need Jamie to get his
shit together.

684
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,320
That's it.
And so I'm telling you right

685
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,240
now, 'cause I know you watching.
I haven't watched it.

686
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:42,000
Jamie better go find his friend.
I swear if he didn't find his

687
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,320
friend or even ask some
questions about his.

688
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,360
Friend, you gonna have something
to say about it?

689
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:54,120
I'm gonna have something to say.
I still love him, but he better

690
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,840
inquire about his friend.
He better go get his.

691
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,280
Friend, I'm OK with him not
knowing William 'cause you know

692
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,920
he had to let him go like a
butterfly.

693
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,160
Let him go.
He will come back when it's time

694
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,840
for him to actually talk.
But you beat your friend to a

695
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,720
bloody Pope.
Yeah, Dizzle told you he looked

696
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:16,680
horrible.
Yep, he was in a bad state.

697
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,120
Bad state.
Broken eye socket.

698
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,600
Broken eye socket.
Do you know how hard you have to

699
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,840
hit somebody to break their eye
socket?

700
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,240
Do we?
So I need you to.

701
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,320
So I'm just telling you before I
watch it, he better ask

702
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,960
questions and try to find his
friend.

703
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,440
I'm not going to say anything.
That's all I got to say.

704
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,920
And he better not be low grade,
just pops up at the house.

705
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,960
No, you better be asking
somebody or go get him.

706
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,760
You said he better take some
some some measured steps to in

707
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,200
that direction.
Right.

708
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:02,560
Yeah, attempt to, you know,
sometime because he just seemed

709
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,640
like he chilling.
So sometime today, Jamie,

710
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,480
sometime today.
Well, like I said, he he has

711
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,120
his, he has his uniform.
Now he can start making some

712
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:19,040
inquiries, especially since he
knows that Lord John Gray was

713
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,360
prisoner in a militia camp.
Now he can start asking about

714
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,800
that.
Yeah.

715
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:29,280
Yeah, so we will see how that
goes and and we'll see if

716
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,880
Michelle has valid reasons to
fuss at Jamie in the next

717
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,360
episode.
But for now, that is it for our

718
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,360
show.
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721
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