Jan. 8, 2025

Outlander S7E14 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #329

#outlander **SPOILER ALERT** We discuss a potentially major book spoiler between the 34:28-39:56 marks. You may want to skip this section if you do not want book spoilers.

Lord John breaks a promise in order to stay alive. Jamie and Claire play host to a dinner of "Who's Who in American History" guests. William receives some surprise guests at the army camp. Claire comes across a surprising soldier in the rebel camp. Jamie begins to prepare his men for battle. William looks to redeem himself. Lord John learns about a plot against his family, from a surprising source. Brianna fiercely defends her family. Jamie and Lord John call a brief truce to save someone dear.

 

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Fan Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Michelle and we are
discussing Outlanders Season 7

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episode 14.
You didn't get used to it.

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Yes, yes, feeling Michelle.
I'm I'm pretty happy in parts

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and upset in others.
I'm very, I'm very upset with

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Jamie.
I'm still upset with Jamie you.

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Still upset with him?
Yeah, because what didn't help

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in this episode is when we see
the first time we see Jamie in

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the episode he handled the
chandelier and Lord John Gray's

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home.
I'm like what the fuck?

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Can y'all not go look for him?
Urgency.

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We don't know if he's alive or
dead.

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I don't.
Come on.

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And then them having this dinner
with everyone there.

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Yeah, it's cool and all, but you
need to go be looking for your

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friend.
You are so nonchalant.

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I'm gonna say this again with
anything.

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This man been taking care of
your son.

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He saved you multiple times.
He can have one strike, but you

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act like you don't care.
I am so bothered by that.

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I am so bothered.
OK, I understand if he needed

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time to grieve the first two
episodes from finding out his

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wife got married and had sex
with a man who don't even want

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her.
Right.

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And she don't want him.
And you know that.

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Dude, I'm mad.
I'm mad.

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He just popped up at your house.
You didn't go looking for him.

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Yeah, OK, so that part, I'm mad.
So every time Jamie was on the

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screen, I was like, I really
don't care for you right now.

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I'm a little upset, yeah.
I understand.

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But I'm a little upset.
I will say this to kind of take

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up for Jamie a little bit.
It's not like he can just up and

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leave right now.
Like he's literally, if, if he

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were to leave right now, he
would get in trouble.

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He would get in trouble.
I do understand that but he not

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even trying to investigate send
Ian to go do some spine or

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something to find.
Ian is also part of this army.

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I know, but he can say, Ian,
when you're on your way home, go

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see if anyone has seen or heard
about a man with an eye patch.

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It can't be too difficult.
Yeah, but you know what one

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well.
You are trying to make excuses

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for you.
No, I'm not making it.

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He's.
Smiling and laughing, hanging a

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chandelier.
I was done.

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I was done.
He was trying.

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To repair the man.
'S house, it doesn't matter.

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My thing is, even if you
couldn't leave, you can be

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talking to Claire.
Like I'm concerned.

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We don't know where he is.
Oh, what I did.

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I hope he's alive.
Jamie Jamie is 1 to hold the

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grudge.
So, so for me, I was like, I

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want the Lord John Grace show.
Oh, we're his stepbrother.

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Look, we're his stepbrother now.
I was like, OK, I'm ready to

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hear some stories.
I want some back stories.

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That's why you need to read the
book.

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I'll say I want some tea here.
Yeah, and they're definitely

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look, Claire was picking up on
that too.

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She was looking like.
Personal business.

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Yeah.
He's my stepbrother.

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Was my stepbrother.
Claire was like, OK, if that's

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what you want.
OK.

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He was like, why you doing this?
Beautiful eyes, I say, well,

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pump the brakes.
When I messed up, though.

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Who touched?
You who hurts you?

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A man.
Man who?

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He touched me and I'm thinking
he don't care about you either.

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Then he couldn't even bother to
even ask around for you.

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OK, I'm gonna let it go.
You are big mad about that?

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I am I just because normally I
just feel like he wouldn't have

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done that.
But he would be begrudge when

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he.
Would be mad though.

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He would be mad though, but he
would be.

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But that motherfucker helped
save Claire too.

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I know, I know.
See they they making me big mad

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I'm cursing up here because.
I can't.

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And that's the crazy thing
because we talked about this

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with the episode.
Like, does Jamie even realize

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that Claire was about to be
arrested and hanged as a spy?

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Because that never came out in
the conversation that they

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aired.
So it's kind of.

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So Jake clearly to tell him and
then we questioned, we going to

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give him the George Washington.
You giving him to no one.

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You let him escape, he will let
you escape.

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I am still confused about what
we're talking about.

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Let me interrupt you has let you
escape.

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I know, I know.
And we're going to let.

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Him get it?
And I'm like, we had this

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conversation about turning him
in and him being the prisoner.

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I'm confused.
I kinda feel like I don't think

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Jamie would have actually turned
him in.

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I think he was just saying that
to kind of be like, hard, like,

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yeah, I'm still pissed off at
you.

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Like, yeah, I would consider
turning you in, but I don't want

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them to hang you as a spy dude.
Like, like you said, he's been a

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part of not one but two militias
at this point and he's had to

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take the oath so.
Who sing was your fault?

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He's like, you're the one who
left me, right?

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Like, what did you think I was
thinking?

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I was thinking somebody was
going to come get me because you

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left me there.
So I I believe me.

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I get it.
The only only saving grace was

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Jamie did look like, oh, we
looked at oh, shoot, I like

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yeah.
And that that was the only

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thing, like horrible.
Like what Can't.

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Can you do something clear with
him?

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That was the only time I saw
that he was like, oh, my bad how

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squeaked out he was when Claire
had to take the eyeball in her

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hands.
And he was just like, you would

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think that he was the one being
hurt.

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But yeah, this is what you did,
Jamie.

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So, yeah, face it.
Face it because this is what you

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did.
But like I said, he he holds a

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grudge and he holds especially
when it comes to Claire.

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And like I said, I think if it
had been anybody else, he

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wouldn't be as mad.
But it's the fact that it was

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his best friend, the father of
the father of his child.

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It was just too close for him.
You had you had two episodes and

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by this third episode you can
send, I don't know the the other

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lady of the house to go be
looking around something.

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OK, he could have helped me Fig.
Cuz let me tell you, missus Fig,

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right?
He was my favorite character in

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this episode because when that
soldier came through the door

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was looking around the house and
she's like, excuse me, who are

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you?
And she tells Jamie, she said,

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well, maybe he'll give you some
answers cuz he walked past me

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like I wasn't even here.
Misses Fig was not having any of

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that.
She was like, I don't give a

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good God damn if I'm a black
slave, a black serving black,

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whatever.
You going to show me some

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respect in this house when the
dude was like, yeah, we're going

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to have the dinner here tonight.
She said, oh, I hope you, I hope

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you can wear an apron because I
got going for you going to come

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help me.
And he was just looking at her

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like, I think if Jamie hadn't
have been standing there, he

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probably would have ignored her.
But the the fact that Jamie came

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and stood right next to her, he
was like, yeah, I'm Jennifer

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Frazier.
What's going on?

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He was like, oh, Jennifer, you,
you saw his demeanor changed.

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This thing, looking at him like
this, stupid.

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Little white boy, you bout to
come help and then the the happy

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moments is OK, we got Lafayette.
But then in my head I'm like,

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but that's not my Lafayette
though, but OK.

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I was like, well, I guess I have
to go with it.

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But Claire was like, she's like
that person who goes and be

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around the stars.
You'd be like, this is so cool.

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This is I need Claire.
To stop because that's the

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second time that she has said
something to George Washington

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that her as a regular person
should not know.

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Because way back in season, what
was that, Season 3 or Season 4

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when they went to theater, she
said something to him about

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something about him cutting down
the cherry trees when he was

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little.
And he was like, yeah, how did

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you say that?
Because that's not a fact that

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no one would really know about
him.

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Right.
'Cause he's not President George

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Washington.
And then in this one, is it true

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that you originally considered a
six pointed start?

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Excuse me, Claire, you got like
Roger with the faces.

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Yes, she is with her questions.
Oh my gosh.

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But I feel like that when she
talked about her family, I don't

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need you to say where you from
man 'cause he may know someone

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there.
Actually, currently family could

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still be there.
Well, remember they said that it

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was distant family.
She had never met them before.

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That's what she told column in
season 1.

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She said yes, they're distant
family from some branch, I guess

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through marriage or whatever she
was like, but I I haven't met

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them.
So she.

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Would this time she act like it
was current and he could

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currently have a cousin there?
That's what I'm saying.

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I need you not to talk and
stuff, but she was fanboy.

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That's what she was a big fanboy
this episode.

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Yeah, yeah, but I need her to
stop because she's going to get

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in trouble.
Like, even when even when the

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Marquis de Lafayette said his
name, her face changed.

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She was like, oh, like she knew
him.

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And you saw how he took to her.
That dude was crushing on

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Claire.
He was like pardon me Moncourt,

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you you calling her the same
thing friend, Friendship calling

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chemical and the boys.
Wait a minute, how you going to

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call her your heart and her
husband sitting right across

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from you?
Let me tell you what happened to

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the last dude that fucked with
this.

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Clearly.
And that was his friend.

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Like a that was his.
Friend, you the man Marquis

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with, that's not what you want
to mess with.

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You don't want none of Jamie
Fraser.

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Your eye gonna be looking this
way and then that way.

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Oh, that was so.
That was so horrible.

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That was so horrible.
That was so horrible.

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Oh, and then then The funny
thing, the marquee, why in the

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world is he force feeding these
these jellied eels on Claire?

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Did you see Jamie looking at
Claire?

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Like you got to eat that?
Not me.

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Oh my God.
This episode had a lot of funny

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moments.
It did had a lot of serious

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moments too, but it had a lot of
funny moments.

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I will say the thing for me was
at the very beginning of the

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episode you get a flashback of
Laura, John and his brother.

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Have I not been saying I wanted
how to come back into the show?

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So even though it was a small
snippet of him, that gives me

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hope that we will see him a
little bit more, especially,

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especially given what we find
out about about what's going on

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with Captain Richardson and.
Oh yeah, I was like, that's

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horrible.
Yeah, but.

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I mean when you go ahead and.
Yeah, but he didn't have to.

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He don't have to do that,
though.

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This is the second time he was
about to do this.

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But see, I mean, we're doing it
now currently.

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Yeah, I wondered about that.
Well, William.

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William in the swamp, Why would
he do that?

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And then when I think it was
what?

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The message with this something
happened, so it didn't come to

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pass.
Right Well, remember the the

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people that William was supposed
to be looking for, that he was

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supposed to be given the
correspondence to, they were

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actually rebels, but they had
moved on.

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So I think those are the people
that were supposed to kill him

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the first time.
So, you know, he's, he got some

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kind of look, he.
Does and he got Look, now when

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the stepbrother gonna bring him
bring Lord John the news.

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And I'm glad he was like, well,
you can release me.

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Yeah, we'll go save our son.
Yeah.

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Yeah, That's that's what I'm
gonna do because I've raised

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this little sucker, right.
He was a baby.

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Right.
And I kind of feel like, you

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know, Jamie is in between a rock
and a hard place when it comes

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to that because I understand he
has 300 souls under his command.

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I can't believe but just one.
But I feel like Lord John, if

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given the same option, probably
because he's closer to William.

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He's actually raised William.
That's childhood.

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I think Lord John would be like
fuck the army, let me go save my

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son.
Right, because if that was

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Brianna, what you going to do?
What you going to do?

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Absolutely.
Right.

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Absolutely.
And guess what Claire will be

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saying to you?
Leave them.

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They'll be all right.
We won the war.

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They'll need you.
Save our child.

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But you don't know if anybody in
that in in that little.

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I know, I know, but remember we
shouldn't be changing anything

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I.
Know I.

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Know 'cause he should have been
dead anyway a long time ago,

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Jamie, so as.
Far as we know, as far as we

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know, but maybe, maybe Jamie was
never supposed to be dead.

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So who knows?
But OK, so we're let's let's

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talk about the the stepbrother a
little bit more.

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Yeah, that was I, I mean, I
seriously wanted to be like, can

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we get like a spin off right
now?

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Apparently I want to know what
is happening.

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So I know that they've talked
about doing a Lower John series

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before, and I think before the
pandemic or right around the

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pandemic, they kind of squashed
it.

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And because if you remember
around the pandemic, I don't

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know if you remember this or
not, Lord David Berry had

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actually put out an announcement
saying that he wasn't coming

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back to Outlander because he
didn't think there was anything

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else for his character to do.
Because with the pandemic and

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everything, we didn't know what
was going to be happening.

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And then of course, we got him
back.

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Yay, he's here.
We're getting all the good juicy

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parts of the story, or we're
about to get all the good juicy

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parts of the story.
But in interviews that I've been

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watching over the last couple of
weeks, he's actually mentioned

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the Lower John Grace series
several times saying that he is

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interested in doing it.
He was like, if they find a way

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to do it, I'm in.
He was like, I will gladly do

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it.
I will gladly, you know, because

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I love this character.
And I think I even read an

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interview where Diana said that.
It's been brought up before.

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So we don't know.
OK hope, because I really would

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love to see a Lord John series.
But also we got the books.

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We got the books.
You have, you have a book

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because I found one of the Lord
John books in the Goodwill for

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you because I already have it.
And I was like I said, do I have

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this one?
I saw it.

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I said, oh, I know who can have
it, Michelle.

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Yes, I have because I guess I
was so mad at Jamie.

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I was so in love with Lord John.
Greatest episode so.

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Well, I mean, he's hard not to.
Like I mean no and he was I I

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liked him and all but I just, I
don't know, I have the feels for

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him the last since he got beat
up.

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Is he your adult Ian?
Like he's the, he's the grown up

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Ian for you.
And I feel like he should.

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Have a little bit more respect.
I'm just saying, well, this is

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true, It's OK.
But I, I yeah, that that scene

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was.
It was very charged because from

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the moment he walks in and Lord
John hears his voice, he turns

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around.
You could feel it.

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Yeah, that was looking like I
was like, what?

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What is about to happen here?
Like do y'all know?

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And of course now since I'm in
the know I've I've been waiting.

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So when he when the marquee
introduced him.

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Oh, at I was like, you knew.
You knew right then.

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I said, oh, wait, this is about
to get really juicy.

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Yeah.
So yeah.

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And like I said, Claire pick,
she picked up on it.

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And even in the conversation
with Jamie when he's telling

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them about William and
everything and he was like,

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yeah, last time I saw him was 20
years ago in France when I

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helped him escape and help,
helped him be presumed dead,

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blah, blah, blah.
And Claire is looking like.

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And then he said, well he is my
step brother.

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Claire was like, OK, whatever,
That's.

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OK.
That's what you want to say.

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I mean, that's what we going to.
Go with that's.

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What we going to do?
Sure.

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Especially if you think about
it, the conversations that she

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and him have had.
And this was even before the

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whole thing with Jamie being
presumed dead when she was

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treating him for the measles.
And he was talking about they

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were talking about love and
relationships and how, you know,

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he wasn't free to love who he
wanted to love.

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And I think in the bed when
after the morning after, she

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asked him if he had ever loved
anyone like that.

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And he was like, yes, oh, I
think she peed that she's like,

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oh, OK.
So yeah, that's going to be an

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interesting story because the
way, even though they they have

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changed a lot from the books, I
will say there, there are whole

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patches of things that they have
kind of taken out because I

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think at this point in the story
with where it seems like they're

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going now, especially with the
Jane and Fanny stuff, I think at

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that point in the books, if I'm
not mistaken, I've only read

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those once and I kind of read
through them fast, but I think

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they were in Savannah at that
point.

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So they have made their way back
down the coast because they were

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trying, they were trying to get
back to Fraser's Ridge.

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But yeah, so there's a lot of
things that they have changed.

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Like I don't think they would
still be in Philadelphia.

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Well, of course, they got to be
for the for the battle.

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But some of the events I think
are being out of place, which is

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cool because it's not really
throwing anything off.

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It's just making me kind of
remember, like, OK, so this

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should be coming up.
This should be coming up.

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And then of course, because we
don't have Ferguson, Marsley,

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I'm having to remove all of that
information from my brain

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because that's probably.
Yeah, 'cause it's not something

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I'm the same.
Because we know they're coming

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back next season, so.
But yeah, the the person thing

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is going to be very interesting,
especially because one, he's

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he's a rebel too.
He's not who he say he is 3

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because of his his connection to
Lord John, because now this

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means that Lord John is like
intimately connected to not one

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but 2.
Rebels.

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Yep.
You know, And I don't know if

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that's going to cause him some
issues politically because

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people already know that he and
Jamie are friends.

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Like, they've made it known.
OK, yes, we're friends, but

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we're on opposite sides of the
war.

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So they kind of keep their
distance, which is good.

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But if the truth about who Percy
is ever gets out, that could

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ruin Lord John, especially if he
helped him in the way that he

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said he did.
If that becomes public

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knowledge, that's going to be a
problem for him.

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It is having him there is going
to be kind of Lord John's going

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to be on a slippery slope for a
minute.

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So but the other interesting
people who showed up for this

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dinner.
First of all, the fact that

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Claire and Jamie keep getting in
the midst in the circle of all

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these famous people.
Brianna would be losing her shit

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right now, right?
She was in the past.

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She'd be like, wait, I'm sitting
at the table with George

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Washington, like.
Because that's how clear was.

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That's all I'm saying.
But you have.

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To remember, before Brianna
became an engineering student,

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she was a history major.
Right.

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So they all would have been.
They would have told on

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themselves.
They probably would have been

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looking at them like if you all
shut the fuck up right, we have

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no time for which because.
Then sometimes some of the

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things you say was like, did
they say that or did you just

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implant that in their head and
then they later go and say

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things to people.
Right.

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So you got to be careful.
You got to be careful.

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OK, so the other interesting
person, that damn General Lee.

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Now, I only know of General Lee
because of Hamilton, but I

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didn't like him in Hamilton.
I don't like him in this.

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You can tell he got a chip on
his shoulder, you can tell he

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got an attitude, and you can
tell everybody else at the table

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is just about done with him.
Yeah, because the margins go

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off.
Well, it's funny because that

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that is when Claire said, well,
he ain't really that important.

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Right.
She was like, I don't, I've

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never heard and I've never heard
of him so that.

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Kind of start.
I start laughing.

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I'm like, yeah.
Why you you sitting here

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thinking that you should have
been put in command?

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Because you have more
experience, right?

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And the only reason why people
know your name is because of a

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damn musical.
Meanwhile, George Washington,

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the inexperienced person, ended
up becoming president, the 1st

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president of the United States.
So that was that was funny.

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But I was like, oh, I do not
like this dude.

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I don't like him.
You could tell Jamie didn't like

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him when he came.
And he was like, yeah, so your,

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your battalion will be under my
command.

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So let's go, let's go talk about
Jamie's Life, OK?

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You're like, that's OK.
Right.

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But everybody else is kind of
looking at him like, dude, we

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don't have time for you.
But we'll see how he plays out

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in this because we already know
what happens.

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History tells us what happens
with him and the and the battle.

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So yeah, I'm just waiting to see
how that's.

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Going when it happened, that's
what we know for sure.

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Right, right.
OK, so let's move on to one

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other thing before we get to the
other big thing.

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Since they weren't on the screen
very often, how you feel about

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Miss Miss Rachel having her hair
down again in this episode?

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You already know, I, I love
their scene.

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So I, I love miss Rachel.
I just love, you know, their

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connection and how they just
their communication and they're

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just great on film.
Even though I'm feeling the same

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with William and what's her
name, Jane.

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Jane, I feel the same way.
I'm like, can he marry her?

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And just, you know, just don't
tell people she what she used to

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do.
I mean, and I know they don't

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get together, but I like it.
I like it for him.

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I feel like that's what he needs
in the woman.

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I really, I really love this
mansion.

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Even in even in the books, like
I said, in the book, she's a

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little bit younger.
So it kind of makes sense that

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he's like what, once he starts?
Like I think The thing is once

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he has been with her, you know,
of course he was with her in the

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brothel.
And I think William starts

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looking at her as a person and
not just a whore in a whore

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house.
Right.

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And it gets to a point where you
start to see this tenderness

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develop, but also because of her
age and because of the way that

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she grew up, He's really trying
to distance himself because he

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doesn't want her thinking that,
oh, I just want you for this,

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which is kind of the way she's
coming across.

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Because.
She's been in a brothel since

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she was 10 years, so she thinks
that sex is the way to fix

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everything.
And William is trying to tell

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her, no, that's not what I want
you for.

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Like, even when she came in and
she was like, I'm trying to do

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you a kindness.
He was like, I don't want it if

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you're doing me a kindness, you
know?

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And I like how he told her,
because the other time we did

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it, you did it.
You wanted it?

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00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,240
Yeah, you wanted it.
You don't know what I want,

443
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,760
girl.
You wanted to.

444
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:13,760
He can tell the difference.
And he doesn't want it if it's

445
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,440
just for like.
Yeah, he wants, he wants that

446
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,480
connection with her.
But I like their relationship.

447
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,120
So it was, it was nice seeing
the young, the young people.

448
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,960
Yeah, this is the this is the
thing that I I really like about

449
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,040
what Fanny is bringing in.
I mean, excuse me, not Fanny

450
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,360
Jane, but also Fanny as well
bringing into his life.

451
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,960
So as we see, William has a huge
chip on his shoulder.

452
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,680
And even in this episode, you
know, he's still salty about the

453
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,400
fact that Jamie is his dad.
He salty about the fact that a

454
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,400
groom was his dad and not Lord
Ellesmere.

455
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,880
So he has that very classist
attitude like, oh, you are

456
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,200
beneath me.
And I love the fact that Jane is

457
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:05,760
kind of making him question that
because of course everyone,

458
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,440
especially in that time, OK,
she's a whore in a whore house.

459
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,320
She has no, she has no value.
I mean, she even says as much.

460
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,360
She was like, look, I've never
had money.

461
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:16,360
I don't know how to, I don't
know how to buy stuff with

462
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:17,880
money.
She was like, why would I?

463
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,040
I've been in a whore house since
I was 10 years old.

464
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,600
The person who was over the
whore house, she takes care of

465
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,960
everything.
She keeps on my wages for my

466
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,920
care, you know, And, and it's
something so foreign to William

467
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,680
because he takes for granted,
like, you don't know how to

468
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,640
count money.
And I think it's, it's really, I

469
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,160
think it's going to help him
kind of in his reconciliation

470
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,960
towards Jamie being his father.
Yeah, I I think so too.

471
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,600
The understand that things are
not for him.

472
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,040
Things are so like cut and dry,
so black and white, and there's

473
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,400
so many grades and people do
things for so many different

474
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,400
reasons and sometimes they don't
want to do stuff because of what

475
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,520
is happening, but that's the
choices that they have.

476
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,160
He'll start realizing like Jamie
didn't have a choice in the

477
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,400
matter.
And not just in that, but in a

478
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,360
lot of things, the the
confession that we get from Jane

479
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:18,520
about Captain Harkness, the fact
that her little sister Fanny,

480
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,400
who let me tell you, you were
going to fall in love with that

481
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,640
kid.
Because even in the books, I'm

482
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,400
like, if anybody touches Fanny,
I'm going to come through the

483
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,480
pages of this book and I'm a
whoop some ass.

484
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,920
Like you love this character.
And she is so well cast in this,

485
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:39,160
like so well cast.
But you know when when you find

486
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,000
out what happens that Captain
Harkness came back to the

487
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,880
brothel and not only was he
intent on just buggering whoever

488
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,360
he was going for Fanny, he was
going to try and take her maid

489
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:53,840
ahead.
And not just in the regular way

490
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,400
because he's a bit of a sadist.
She kills him to protect her

491
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,320
sister and they're on the run.
So even with that confession,

492
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:08,200
when William is listening to
what she's saying, for any other

493
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:13,720
man in that time period, they
would listen to it and probably

494
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,320
not be fazed by it.
I mean, if you think about what

495
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,920
happened in the village when
that other soldier killed that

496
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,040
woman who had, what was it?
She had the pox or something and

497
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,000
was the only person who kind of
stepped up to try to defend her,

498
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,320
to try to save her.
Most of the man would listen to

499
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,800
Fanny's story about what
Harkness was going to do.

500
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,920
And they're going to be like,
well, you work in a whorehouse.

501
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,200
That's what you're supposed to
expect, you know?

502
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,120
But William, the whole time she
was talking to him, you can see

503
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,760
his facial expression.
You can see how disgusted he

504
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,360
was.
You can see how pissed he was.

505
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,920
And I think if Harkness has
still been alive, William

506
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,240
probably would have went to look
for him.

507
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,240
But of course, he's not.
And, you know, Jane had to take

508
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,560
care of him.
And she was like, OK, sorry, you

509
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,000
didn't turn me into the
magistrate.

510
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,800
He was like, no, I wouldn't do
that.

511
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,360
And she says, why not?
He was like, I don't know, but I

512
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,480
wouldn't do that.
I think again, she's going to

513
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,840
make him question certain things
because the fact that the

514
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,760
limited information that you
have about James Fraser is that

515
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,000
he's a traitor, he's a rebel and
he was a groom that you knew

516
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,800
growing up.
That's it.

517
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,080
And you're basing all of your
animosity on this fact, plus the

518
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,560
fact that you have not found out
that he that he fired you.

519
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,920
But.
Jamie, in a lot of his

520
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,160
circumstances, didn't have a
choice either.

521
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,920
He had to do what he had to do
to save other people.

522
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,200
And I'm waiting for.
Him and we tell.

523
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,720
Him that Jamie was not just a
groom, he was actually the Laird

524
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,880
of a whole estate before and
English came in and wiped out

525
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,120
the Highland culture.
And, and everything that he

526
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,520
does, he's an honorable man like
your father.

527
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,880
So you you have to you need to
see that.

528
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,600
But I mean, it's, it's
understandable that he hasn't

529
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,840
seen it yet because he has a
really.

530
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,920
Oh.
No, I'm just saying this will

531
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,920
get him to open his eyes because
then you can see the things in

532
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,680
between.
Yeah, I may be a traitor, but do

533
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,720
you have you paid attention how
I protect everyone who is around

534
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,840
me and I stand with honor while
some of these other people are

535
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,360
just all over the place.
Right, right, right.

536
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,160
You know, and not judge me from
like, even with Jane, she

537
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,520
doesn't want you to judge her
because she worked at a whore

538
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,800
house.
That's not who she is, so I

539
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,880
think it will.
She in her mind, that's what she

540
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,040
is, but he's trying to get her.
Well, right, to see that it's

541
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,240
different.
That that she, that was not her

542
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,280
only worth.
Yeah, so.

543
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,320
Yeah, and she will soon realize
that too.

544
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,240
Honey, you got to learn how to
wash them clothes.

545
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,560
What would you think you going
to do?

546
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,040
You can't cook.
No, but she she really thought

547
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,160
she was going to sleep her way
through the.

548
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,680
Camp, I mean, she No, no, no,
ma'am, we're not going to do

549
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,160
that.
We're not going to do that

550
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,440
especially.
We're going to watch them.

551
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,200
You coming to me?
For for protection, right?

552
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:01,840
I'm.
I'm not.

553
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,080
Going to lay up on the No
absolutely not.

554
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,720
I'm not going to be your pimp,
right?

555
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,240
So I, I think the pairing is
very good for him.

556
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,120
I don't know if it will progress
because I feel like he's too

557
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,240
much of A gentleman to take
advantage of the situation.

558
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,680
And even though she is, she's
obviously hot and heavy for him,

559
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,040
he's not going to take advantage
of that situation.

560
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,200
You know, but I, I, I, I like
them together.

561
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,840
I.
Do I do?

562
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,440
Because you see.
So now if he isn't with someone

563
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,680
else, I don't even know.
I don't even know how to.

564
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,200
I don't even know what to do.
You see the softness come out of

565
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,520
him.
With her and it's so I'm going

566
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,680
to ask a question later after
this episode.

567
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,800
And I'm not going to tell you
I'm not telling.

568
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,400
You're going to tell me I just
need yes or no I'm.

569
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,880
Not no, because I think I think
you'll you'll get some more

570
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000
information in the next two
episodes.

571
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,840
If the story is going where I
think it's going to go, then

572
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,960
you'll get some more information
in the next two episodes.

573
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,760
You'll they might even give some
of James back story because we

574
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,440
do learn a little bit of their
back story and in the book, you

575
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,000
know, as far as like how they.
OK, so my SO in my brain, I can

576
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,680
only.
I can only.

577
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,680
OK, I'll tell you what.
I can imagine what happened.

578
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,760
Oh, you got.
Oh, you got OK?

579
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,440
Yeah.
Yeah, so.

580
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,120
But yeah, no, I'm not telling
you nothing.

581
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,680
So anyway, let's see, what else
do we have to talk about?

582
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,160
Oh, let's talk about.
Let's talk about Rambo Bri.

583
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,640
I love it when she I was like,
but honey, you know how to shoot

584
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,680
for real.
She know how to shoot.

585
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,280
She really know how to shoot.
Oh yeah, I know how she

586
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,960
motherfucking missed.
Does she know how to sleeping on

587
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,680
purpose?
OK, I was hoping so, but you

588
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,600
know, I can see that you don't
want to scare them.

589
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,960
You don't.
Want to commit murder in front

590
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,120
of your children?
No you don't, because I'm like,

591
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,240
girl, you really.
You a sniper?

592
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,720
Right.
So a shot good.

593
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,960
Right.
I was like, yeah.

594
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,880
But I love it though, because
she pulled that out.

595
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,360
She came out of those woods.
She was like I'm and was

596
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,320
shooting.
Y'all, y'all with the wrong Mama

597
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,600
bear She was.
But let me ask you a question,

598
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,600
and this is going to be a little
bit spoilery for something that

599
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,440
might come up later on.
So you notice when she's sitting

600
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,040
there, she's fighting the guy
who's trying to get into the

601
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,680
van.
She punches him in the face.

602
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,640
Right.
She partially takes his mask off

603
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,280
and then when he falls to the
ground you can see a little bit

604
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,160
of his face.
Did he look familiar to you?

605
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,880
No.
And the other one didn't either.

606
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,040
And I'm like, I'm supposed to
know this?

607
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,320
No, because I looked at their
faces and and I was like, she

608
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,640
told me I should know.
And I'm like, I don't know you.

609
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,600
Want me to tell you now?
You want me to tell you ask?

610
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,840
But not the one that the one who
still have his mask on.

611
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,800
No, the one who has his mask
off, when, when Rob Cameron got

612
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,920
there, he turned around, he
called.

613
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,280
Right.
And his whole mask is off, Yes.

614
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,480
I don't remember that guy.
Where is he from?

615
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:30,320
Where is he from?
This is spoilery, just in case

616
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,040
anybody it.
Don't have to be spoiled because

617
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,000
he hasn't been in other
episodes.

618
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,560
He's in.
He's in this episode.

619
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:43,440
So we should know, hold on, hold
on, pump the brakes, pump the

620
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,080
brakes.
Who can?

621
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,040
You alert.
If you don't want to be spoiled,

622
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,440
you're going to skip the next
maybe 2 minutes.

623
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:56,400
OK, and 54321.
OK, so here's my choices here he

624
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,680
was in this episode.
Is it stepbrother?

625
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,560
Nope.
OK, who else was it he?

626
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,440
Does wear a wig though.
It's not the one of the one

627
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,440
people at the George Washington
table, is it?

628
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,000
OK.
It ain't one that William went

629
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,680
to their camp.
You're close.

630
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,320
So was that the camp?
Nope.

631
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,560
Is it Richardson?
Yeah.

632
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,560
Well, how did Richardson become
a traveler?

633
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,120
So that's the thing, even in the
books we don't know yet.

634
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:32,920
We do not.
We do find out in the books that

635
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,120
he is a traveler.
It's, I think it's in the last

636
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,600
book, Go Tell the Bees.
But we do find out that he is a

637
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,280
traveller.
We find out why he's back in the

638
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,280
past.
But it's it's interesting

639
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,760
because here I think the way
that they did it in this

640
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,000
particular episode, because
we've never seen his character

641
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,720
in the 1980s up until now.
So I think when Rob Cameron

642
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,520
called his name Callahan, that
was to let book readers know,

643
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,600
OK, this is who this is supposed
to be.

644
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:12,320
Because in the books, Mike
Callahan is a what is he a

645
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,080
architect or something?
But he comes out because on

646
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:23,120
Lolly Brock's property, there is
a structure that Rodger and

647
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,400
Brianna are trying to figure out
what it is.

648
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,560
And it turns out it's an old
church that was built on the

649
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,720
grounds.
So Mike Callahan is a architect.

650
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:34,680
I think if he comes out and kind
of looks at it, he, he

651
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:40,440
specializes in old 17th and 18th
century buildings and he comes

652
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,240
out and he looks at it, he tells
them what it is and like

653
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:46,480
develops a really, really nice
rapport with them.

654
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:51,240
So when it's revealed that he's
one of Rob Cameron's cronies in

655
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,760
the book, I'm looking at the
book and I'm cussing this man

656
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,440
out like I knew him.
So I think that was a that was

657
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,200
to let the book readers know,
OK, yes, this is this is him.

658
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:08,800
So now we got to try and figure
out, OK, so why is one, why is

659
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,960
he in the past or why is he in
the future?

660
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,840
Because we don't know.
He may have been in the past and

661
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,360
jumped to the future.
We don't know.

662
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,880
And why is he so focused on the
Gray family, You know, focusing

663
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,520
on them as far as trying to
discredit how trying to

664
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,720
discredit Lord John, using
William as political pawn.

665
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,840
So it's like that opens up a
whole lot of other questions.

666
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,720
But it was just so interesting
because when you see his face

667
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,840
and he does this and he looks
up, you can if you pay really

668
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,600
pay attention to his face,
because they don't show his

669
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,040
whole face on purpose.
And I think it's for the.

670
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,960
OK so to me I feel like I saw
his whole face but I was like I

671
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,360
can't picture.
You see it, but it's kind of at

672
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,840
an angle.
So it's like you're looking like

673
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,360
this and if you not, if you
really not for because I'm

674
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,560
looking at it right.
Now, and the thing about it is

675
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:09,040
also like this has been in, he
had been on camera a lot, right?

676
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,920
So you have his face like
memorized.

677
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,480
We talk about him, but not on
camera a lot.

678
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,600
But it's so funny.
So that's on purpose.

679
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,000
Because then you wouldn't, you
wouldn't put them together.

680
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,680
Right.
Which is crazy because in this

681
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,920
episode, like the face is the
same, his hair is even almost

682
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,080
the same color except for in the
past he has it in the little wig

683
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,760
with the curly cues and in this
one his hair is short and it's

684
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,440
sticking up at the end because
he literally just.

685
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,600
Had the mask on.
The mask on.

686
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,880
So yeah, I thought that was
really interesting.

687
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,680
I was like, I'm waiting for
Michelle to text me.

688
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,760
I'm waiting for her to text me.
And when you didn't text

689
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,920
message, she didn't see it.
She didn't see it.

690
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,240
Yeah, I didn't.
I was.

691
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,720
But I was like, OK, she gonna
have to tell me, 'cause I really

692
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:56,280
don't know who this is.
I really don't be.

693
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Interesting to see what they do
with him in this story and.

694
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,320
How that's going to move forward
it, yeah.

695
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,680
And how he ends up with it is
quite interesting how that

696
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,000
connection, right, because.
My it.

697
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,120
Still make me wreck my brain on
that one.

698
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,040
So I'm like, OK, that ain't the
person I would think it would

699
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,880
be, OK.
Yeah, because it really does

700
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:28,560
make you think now, like, OK, so
in the past, does he know about

701
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,360
like, did he come from the
future and go back to the past

702
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,680
that he knows, like who Jamie
is?

703
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,320
Does he know who William is,
like as far as his relation to

704
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,480
Tabri?
Or did he go from the past to

705
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,720
the future?
So it's like one of those things

706
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:47,080
where it's like, OK, we're going
to have to figure it out.

707
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,600
We're going to have to figure it
out.

708
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,040
But I just thought it was very
interesting that they did put

709
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,560
them in there.
And then it's like literally in

710
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,720
the same episode.
But if you don't know it, like

711
00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:01,600
if I hadn't read the books and
knew that's who it was, I don't

712
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,960
think I would have caught it
either.

713
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,400
I probably would have looked at
him like, wow, his face looks

714
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,560
familiar.
But it probably would have taken

715
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,320
me several times to watch the
episode before I got it.

716
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,600
But I think they did it really
clever.

717
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,680
But yeah, Mama Bear Bri, don't
fuck with her.

718
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,080
But she's talking about going to
Roger.

719
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,240
Which is going to be a problem
because Roger ain't where she

720
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:35,480
think he is.
So they're going to have to

721
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,400
figure something out.
Roger He.

722
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,960
Needs a man.
I did.

723
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,640
I did see a preview, but I saw a
picture from when the episode

724
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,040
went off on Stars and they had
like, oh, the next episode.

725
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,720
I just know that the next
episode does have Rodger in it.

726
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:54,360
It does.
So I know I will get a little

727
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,360
bit more information.
Yeah, but he needs to.

728
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:01,480
He needs to go ahead because she
doesn't know where he is, but he

729
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,000
knows exactly where she is, so
he needs to hurry up and trace

730
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,680
his ass back through the stones.
The thing about it is he could

731
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,440
come home and be like, this is
what I found.

732
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,560
Let me go out again checking in.
So like come back and check in.

733
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,480
Yeah, but you got to remember
they don't know how often you

734
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,440
can go through and what kind,
what it does to your body and

735
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,200
everything.
We don't have time for that.

736
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,240
Our kids been kidnapped, so you
got to do what you got to do.

737
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,880
I know, but you should check in
because you don't know if your

738
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,800
son went back through the stones
and he knew his way back he had

739
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,960
a stone.
So you would like to go home and

740
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,480
just to check in.
That he didn't think Jimmy came

741
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,040
through the stones.
So we need to go home.

742
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:50,520
Yeah, yeah.
So question, maybe it's just me.

743
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,840
Lieutenant Bixby, does he look
like the same dude that was

744
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,040
standing next to William and got
shot in the head?

745
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,040
Sandy, does he, Does that look
like the same person, the same

746
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,840
actor?
Because I was like, didn't I

747
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,440
just see you die for you?
Episodes.

748
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:13,240
No, but I have to look again.
I I, I feel like it's the same

749
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,920
actor, but when I went to go
look look it up at IMDb.

750
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,560
Yeah, they shouldn't be.
As I said, that would be a huge.

751
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,760
I wouldn't be the.
First time they've they've used

752
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,720
an actor in different roles
because they've done it before,

753
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,760
but it wasn't anybody.
I think that was like really,

754
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680
really prominent, like they had
met an actor that played a a

755
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,400
named part, but then they came
back and they did it like a

756
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,120
background part or something
like that.

757
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,200
So I wouldn't be surprised.
But it is just so strange to me

758
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,240
because I'm like, he looks
exactly like him.

759
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:49,000
But I haven't had a chance to go
back at that other episode and

760
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:59,040
look so.
But yeah, this episode, if you

761
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,880
think there was a lot going on
in this one, just wait till the

762
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,440
next one.
I'm, I'm just, I'm, I'm ready.

763
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,440
I'm ready whenever you are to
talk about the next episode

764
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,880
because you're going to have a
lot to say.

765
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,760
I was sitting there watching
that episode, like.

766
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:22,080
OK, yeah.
But did we miss anything?

767
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,960
I think.
And we got Lord John.

768
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,720
We got the stepbrother, We got
the dinner, we got Ian and

769
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:34,960
Rachel.
And we have we have Jamie and

770
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,240
not really caring about his
friends.

771
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,240
We're not, we're, we're gonna
give him, we're gonna give him

772
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:45,760
until next episode, see how he
does 'cause you know when, when

773
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,520
the man goes and he saves your
son, there's got to be a little

774
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,760
forgiveness in that, just a
little bit.

775
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,800
If not, then yeah, I'm gonna be
like yeah, I need you to, I'm

776
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,240
gonna need you to handle that.
Tell Jamie he's being

777
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:05,840
unreasonable.
Get in his ass and and tell him

778
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:12,040
to go kiss and make up cuz damn.
Right, but you know, maybe he

779
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,520
will when he brings home his
son, like go get our son.

780
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,280
Whatever, right.
Well, you glad I'd you know was

781
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,800
found because who's going to go
get our son?

782
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,920
I feel so bad for William.
William, you know what I really

783
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,240
do.
I'm at this point I'm like he's

784
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:34,000
like naive and y'all keep
throwing him in situations and

785
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,320
now he about to be captured and
may be tortured until y'all get

786
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,360
there.
Right.

787
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:43,200
Or William I.
Know I know y'all didn't bring

788
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,480
him up for this.
Cruel, cruel world, right?

789
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,240
You didn't.
Look in that in that case, he

790
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:52,040
needed Jamie as his daddy.
Because you can't.

791
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Because it's always an issue.
So you've got to.

792
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,240
Learn how to survive.
Yes, there's only so many things

793
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:00,880
that you can learn from
privilege.

794
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,440
Yeah.
Revival in the woods.

795
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,000
Right.
A group of Hessians have been

796
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,920
told to kill you is not.
One of them so friendly you want

797
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,960
to stay for coffee.
Yay.

798
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,280
Well, you should also stay for
dinner.

799
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,760
Because he's thinking these are
his allies.

800
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:29,320
Yeah, they they are not for him.
No, I would say this to Claire.

801
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:34,080
So funny when she was like,
well, you know, Percy was right

802
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,720
about one thing.
Richardson is a spy in a

803
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:39,040
turncoat.
He told me as much as dinner and

804
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:42,480
Lord John was like, and you
didn't say anything to me.

805
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,440
She said, well, you know, we
kind of are on the same side and

806
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,400
I think I just said I wouldn't.
Spy on you.

807
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,120
They they had that conversation
about the dinner and Jamie is

808
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,480
just looking at them like, OK,
how long am I going to let this

809
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,000
conversation going?
OK, that's enough.

810
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,040
I got 300 minutes.
Under my control.

811
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,640
He was like enough of this,
enough of y'all talking about

812
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,800
the time when I wasn't here
because that's going to lead to

813
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,440
other conversations and we don't
whatever.

814
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:12,840
He's already got damaged so OK,
I'm telling you that I was so

815
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,560
disgusting looking.
It wasn't moving because even

816
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,720
when he turned to look at Jamie,
like the I was in like because

817
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:23,640
he was turning to look at Jamie
and the other, I was straight at

818
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,920
the camera.
You can see how Jamie would move

819
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,880
like oh.
That's what I did.

820
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,000
Like it ain't even moving.
Oops, didn't mean it.

821
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:40,920
Well, yes, I did, but I didn't.
That's OK, They don't get it

822
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,080
together.
Honey, I'm like, that ain't

823
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,720
going to be sticky shit.
I know.

824
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:48,720
Right.
And she was like, it's going to

825
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:52,400
help the eyeball move and, and,
and reading it in the books when

826
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,280
he's talking about it, I was
just like.

827
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,920
Oh no.
Oh gosh, no.

828
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:04,880
Sticky, but OK, so the takeaways
from this episode are Jamie

829
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,400
needs to grow up.
Yeah, needs to.

830
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,640
William needs to take the Rose
colored glasses off.

831
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,720
Fanny is the sweetest thing
alive.

832
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:28,480
Jane is, let me tell you.
Jane.

833
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,080
For someone who seems to be so,
and I don't even want to.

834
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,040
I don't even want to say spoiled
because that's not the word I'm

835
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,400
I'm looking for someone who is
so jaded.

836
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,720
That's the word I'm looking for.
For someone who is so jaded, she

837
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:48,720
still seems to have a bit of
innocence about her that I like.

838
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,200
Yeah.
And not necessarily.

839
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,600
Maybe not even innocence, a
little bit of naivete, but just,

840
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,440
I don't know, there's something
I feel like that's wholesome

841
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,280
about her, despite her
upbringing and what she's had to

842
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,840
go through.
And you can really see it with

843
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,320
her sister.
And I love it because she was

844
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,440
like, OK, yeah, you can do
whatever you want to me, but oh,

845
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,160
you want to try and touch my, my
sister and I'm, I'm, I'm about

846
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,360
to put a knife in your neck.
Yeah, we're not going to do

847
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,280
that.
Right, but did you see the Did

848
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,760
you see the way William looked
when she said Nobody?

849
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,440
Nobody thought.
Nobody had a second thought when

850
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,200
Fanny started screaming, Knowing
what Harkness was up to.

851
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:40,040
William was like, God, like how?
And that's the question I have

852
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,280
with stuff like that.
I mean, I understand the girls

853
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,320
who are in the house.
They're probably used to it

854
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,920
because again, she's been there
since she was 10 and we're

855
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,080
telling how long some of the
other girls have been there.

856
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:56,000
And this is what you're used to.
But the fact that women of a, a

857
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,680
woman of all people was the one
who was sitting there pimping

858
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,440
the girls, I just, oh, I have a
problem with that.

859
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,000
But whole other time, 200 years
ago, I'm glad in those times

860
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,040
because I might be the same
stabbing folks in the neck.

861
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,160
So next, the newlyweds, our
newly wedding.

862
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,000
They are and they're being so
sweet about it.

863
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,960
And I love, I love the fact that
Ian was like he he felt his

864
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,200
dad's presents with him.
He said, I thought he was

865
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,520
telling me that I was going to
die on the battlefield.

866
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,880
But then you walked in the door.
And I take that as a very good

867
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,560
sign because literally as soon
as he said, have you come to

868
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,520
give me bad news?
Rachel walks through.

869
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,920
I was like, no, he's telling you
you're going to be all right.

870
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,840
Right.
I was like, we're, we're not

871
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,760
doing that.
We were, we were done with that,

872
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,160
with bad news.
No, no Sir.

873
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:48,920
We've had enough, had enough.
So now I just need Brianna to,

874
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:54,400
like I said, if she's going to
go find Rodger, I need her to

875
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,720
figure something out.
Or I need Rodger to get back

876
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,560
before she goes through the
stones.

877
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,160
And then when he comes back,
maybe he can kick Rob Cameron's

878
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,280
ass once or twice.
Oh, I want her to do it.

879
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,440
Like get that damn shotgun,
start shooting off toes and

880
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,440
stuff.
Torture.

881
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,960
I mean, pack your kids
somewhere.

882
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,560
I need, I need you to because
she know how to do it.

883
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,520
I know.
We know.

884
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,080
She knows how to do it.
Do you know who?

885
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,080
Her father.
Is I know because that's how she

886
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,640
was when she she was in the
woods like a with a shotgun and

887
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,120
then that man come up, she
jumping out of there and start

888
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,160
shooting at the door and
shooting at them to the van.

889
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,840
Why are y'all coming back here?
And then when Fiona was like

890
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,800
that, Rob got showed up at our
house.

891
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,800
How do you know where you?
Stay at.

892
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,320
So Ryan Cameron been doing some
digging.

893
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,520
They did.
They have research, so they have

894
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:45,560
research.
Oh, I know.

895
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,520
And he probably knows Rodger
used to used to work at the, I

896
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:55,160
mean used to live at the, the,
the reverend's old house and

897
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,240
that's where Fiona stays now.
So he probably was checking

898
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:01,080
like, OK, well where would she
take the kids?

899
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,600
Yeah, where would she take the
kids?

900
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,200
And they don't have any other
family, right?

901
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,840
So.
Yeah, but yeah, but that's a

902
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,960
that's very condensed from the
books because in the books like

903
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,800
she don't call the police, Jim
and Rob cameras face them.

904
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,760
Been on the news like everything
like it was it was huge.

905
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,080
So yeah.
And that America's Most Wanted.

906
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,040
Adam's missing.
Rob should be on the on.

907
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,200
On the news.
Yeah.

908
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:33,960
Jim should be on the milk cart.
Come on now.

909
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,400
This is what the time period is.
Yeah.

910
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,960
But it's also kind of hard when
when you're telling people your

911
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,920
husband's in Boston, but.
Yeah, that's true.

912
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:43,600
Too, but you can't get a hold
of.

913
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,000
But you can't.
Get a hold of them.

914
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,520
There ain't no phone to call
him.

915
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,760
He calls you.
Yeah, like Ernie.

916
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,600
Ernie was like, yeah, I know
Rodgers in Boston, but maybe

917
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,120
it's time for you to take a
trip.

918
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,400
Ernie is like, look, I was
signing up, signing my family up

919
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,880
for danger.
Was not on my bingo card today.

920
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,320
I need you and your kids to go
somewhere.

921
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,640
So because Ernie don't look like
he can do too much.

922
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,920
Fiona.
Probably Fiona can.

923
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,120
But Ernie?
Yeah.

924
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,840
Ernie.
Ernie.

925
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,560
Is that straight vanilla.
I don't know nothing about no

926
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,400
fairies.
I don't know nothing about no

927
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,520
standing stones, nothing.
What is going on?

928
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,560
Why is this man after your
children?

929
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,200
I need you to go find your
husband because I'm done.

930
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,480
He can't look.
He can't even figure out what's

931
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,880
wrong with the engine of his
car.

932
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,000
Got Brianna out there with Fiona
and the flashlight.

933
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,000
Why he in the car?
Ernie, you ain't.

934
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,280
Good.
She's like, try it now.

935
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:49,680
I was like, Oh my goodness,
that's why I'm out.

936
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,680
So I need, I don't need Rodger
to come saving the day.

937
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,840
Rihanna got this.
Yeah, but got it.

938
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,160
But I will say.
That they need to die.

939
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,160
I'm sorry.
No, no, I get they don't they

940
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,320
need to be arrested.
What?

941
00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:08,600
Is that going to do?
Did you see the police officers

942
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,440
that came to?
No, they really don't care.

943
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,640
They don't they.
Are incompetent so yeah, we're

944
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,720
not we're not going to leave
this up to the police.

945
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:20,080
They going to figure it out.
They going to figure it out, But

946
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,840
do you realize we only have two
more episodes before we're in

947
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,000
another drought Lander?
How did it go by?

948
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,000
So fast.
It did, it did.

949
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,680
And they gave a lot of
information.

950
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,720
So I don't even know how they're
going to do the next season,

951
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:46,360
which they're done filming.
So OK, what month is it?

952
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,000
January.
OK.

953
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:54,160
So hopefully.
August, I'm gonna be honest.

954
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,360
You don't think it is till 26?
I think if we get it, we might

955
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,120
get it either November, December
or we'll get it in January,

956
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:07,440
February because I think I have
heard that they are planning to

957
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:13,040
release blood of my blood in
between season 7 and Season 8.

958
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,960
OK.
So well, this season's by the

959
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,880
end before February, so the the
other show can come on in March

960
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,680
and we still need something in
November.

961
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,640
I think they're still doing post
production because they just

962
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,360
finished filming in like.
I think October or November

963
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,920
maybe.
Yes, but my other show, Stranger

964
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,440
Things, which has CGI, is going
to be later on this summer.

965
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:43,720
So of course, Outlander, hello.
It ain't much CGI should be able

966
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:46,920
to come back to you.
Yeah, same time.

967
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,320
OK, They both finished wrapping
up.

968
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,040
OK.
OK, we got.

969
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,040
You So what we waiting on?
I know, but here's the

970
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,760
interesting thing about Blood of
my blood.

971
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,520
And somehow I missed this
information when it when they

972
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,200
announced it and when it cast.
It's not only dealing with

973
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,360
Jamie's parents, we are getting
Claire's parents as well.

974
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:11,120
Yeah, because on one of the
pictures that you even sent me

975
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,760
has both.
Who's playing who?

976
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,200
Yeah.
But see, that's the thing.

977
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,480
I it like completely slipped my
mind because I was looking at

978
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,960
the name because I don't, I
don't think we ever find out

979
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,600
Claire's parents names in the
book, at least not that I can

980
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,600
recall.
So seeing the names, it just

981
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,960
kind of went over.
I guess I figured that because

982
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,120
of the how they had them both,
like side by side, I was

983
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,280
thinking his parents, her
parents, yeah.

984
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,240
So that's going to be
interesting because we don't

985
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:43,240
know a lot about Claire's
family, a background except for

986
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:45,120
Uncle Lam.
Right.

987
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,480
And that's why I was figured
we'll figure out that they were

988
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,280
travellers that before they get
trapped in the stones.

989
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,960
That it could be.
I guess we'll see.

990
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,840
Yeah.
But do you have anything else to

991
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,160
say about this episode?
And please, anything other than

992
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,440
Jamie?
Need to get a grip?

993
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,520
No, that's it.
OK, so we're going to keep our

994
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:16,360
fingers crossed that Jamie,
shall we say, before the end of

995
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,240
the season, or I mean, it's only
two more episodes.

996
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:22,920
So either next episode or the
episode after that, we we going

997
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:28,720
to hope that Jamie comes to a
senses and even if they're not

998
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:31,520
friends again, we we just need a
truce.

999
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:36,040
We just need, we just need it to
be some peace cause y'all got

1000
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,480
some y'all, y'all got other
stuff y'all got to worry about.

1001
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,280
Y'all got a battle coming up and
you got a son who's confused and

1002
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,000
angry and dealing with his own
stuff that y'all need to kind of

1003
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:52,560
rally together and, and help,
you know, resolve.

1004
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,600
So let's hope that that gets
fixed before the end of the

1005
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,360
season.
Yeah.

1006
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,640
Is that it?
OK.

1007
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,680
Yep, that's it.
All right, so on that note, that

1008
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,160
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1009
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:11,200
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1010
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1011
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1012
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1014
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