Outlander S7E16 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #332

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Michelle and we are
discussing the season 7 finale

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of Outlander, the very last
season finale for the show.

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Right which?
Because next.

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I don't even know what to.
I don't even know what to say.

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Girl.
I I feel like it wasn't a season

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finale.
I feel like we should have a

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episode next week.
I do because it just didn't feel

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like it.
And then now I'm like, OK, so

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when will the next season come
out?

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And I know we're going to talk
about it, but now you open up

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Pandora's, another can of worms
here that we going to have to

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dig through next season, which
is our last season, which we

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should be like tying up the
strings right now, not having a

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whole bunch of strings fall on
the left side that no one was

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even paying attention to or
thinking about.

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So OK so let's make this
determination first because I

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have had messages all day asking
for my opinion of this season

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finale and I was like Nope
Michelle and I are talking about

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it, y'all will hear it at
midnight.

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So let's do this.
Do we want to go from easy to

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hard, or do we want to go ahead
and just address the elephant in

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the room first?
You got to address the elephant

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in the room because we're going
to, we're going to keep going to

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the elephant.
OK, OK, so we're going to start

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this off with the Jane story
first of all.

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Yes.
So I will say this, I love that

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we got to see a little bit of
Jane and Fanny's childhood at

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the beginning of the episode.
You get to see them together as

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young girls with their mother,
with who we assume is their

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mother in a field full of
dragonflies.

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You get to see them just kind of
being children.

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And I think that along with the
warning message at the beginning

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of the episode, kind of already
informed you on what was going

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to happen in this episode,
especially since they started

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out with Jane.
So basically Jane, as we

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discussed in the last episode,
she has been arrested.

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She has been brought to a
meeting house in one of the

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towns and she is going to be
executed for murder.

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Now, I think the interesting
thing about the start of her

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story where we see her is when
we when we see her character in

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this episode, at the beginning,
she's talking to what is

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apparently a reporter who's
trying to get the details for

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this sensationalist crime.
Because they're saying that she

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stabbed this guy 26 times and
then cut his throat, which of

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course, you know, what she told
William was that she only

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stabbed him once and then she
stabbed him in the throat.

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So it's kind of like the first
thing I'm trying to figure out

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is did she really stabbed this
man the number of times that

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they say, or is this something
that they are just kind of

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sensationalizing in order to put
her in a position where, oh, we,

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you can't argue this.
We're definitely going to hang

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you.
And it's just one of those

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things where when when you see
her listening to the reporter

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and he's asking her all of these
questions, the answers that

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she's giving and the attitude
that she has with giving those

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answers, you already know she
already knows there is no coming

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out of this for her.
Oh yeah, she definitely knows it

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is no being saved.
They're going to kill you and

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why throwing up?
But why would I when you already

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said I stabbed him 26 times?
So why would I even give you

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information 'cause you're going
to change it, 'cause you're

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going to make me look like I'm
crazy and that he is an innocent

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old.
Poor him that.

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Yeah, yeah.
So no, yeah, no.

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But when I was listening to it
and, and like I said with, with

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the way that she was coming
across at first, her attitude, I

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was like, she really wants it.
It's almost like she wants them

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to kill her.
But then at the same time, I was

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like, Oh no, when when you kind
of get deeper into the

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conversation and you kind of see
the way that it's going, I was

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like, Oh no.
She's basically like saying fuck

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y'all because she already knows
that there is no getting out of

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this for her.
None.

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And you felt so bad for it
because one, we know, again, we

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know the lengths that she went
to and why she went to those

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lengths.
She was trying to protect her

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sister.
But as I stated last week, the

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British Army is not going to
care.

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They just care that one of their
soldiers is dead.

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And now, like you said, they're
fabricating information because

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even when later on in the
episode, when Lord John tries to

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go find information out for
William, he comes back and says

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she signed a confession
admitting that she murdered him.

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But the only thing that she was
disputing was the fact that she

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stabbed him 26 times.
'Cause I didn't do that.

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Right.
So.

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But you know, like, like Lord
John said, 'cause when William

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said she only stabbed him once,
and Lord John says unfortunately

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the once is enough.
Right.

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So really, the 26 times, does it
really matter?

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It does in my story.
But either way, he's dead,

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right?
So, right, so with all of that,

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of course William is trying to
get someone to help him.

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He asked his father, Lord John,
which I, I'm genuinely surprised

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because Lord John was basically
like, OK, yes, I'll, I'll see

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what I can find out.
I'll try to help you.

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But once he realizes what she's
in for and that she signed the

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confession, he basically has
given it up.

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Like, there's nothing I else I
can do.

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At least, you know, you know,
with her death, it wasn't in

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vain 'cause she was able to save
her sister.

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And William was like, yeah, you
know, I'm not about to let this

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let this rest, right.
Lord John is like, yeah, I know

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you.
I think he kind of figured

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William was going to try to do
something and he wasn't going to

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stand in Williams way.
But what does William do?

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William goes to his other daddy
and ask for him to help.

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Yeah, the one he knows that
would be able to help him for

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real.
The one who is the quote UN

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quote criminal.
But like I, I, I, I said this

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Jack, Jamie, both we're going to
challenge William and his

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worldview.
They were going to challenge his

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principles, his morals, because
you are about to risk everything

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to try to go save this girl who
again, is a noteworthy in

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everybody else's eyes.
Luckily, he he's surrounded by

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people who are not as judgmental
because when he tells Lord John

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that she's a whore, he was like,
but she, Lord John was like, it

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don't matter.
It don't matter.

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Like, I don't care what she is,
what she did.

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You say you were supposed to
protect her.

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You care about her.
Let me see what I can do to

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help.
But again, Lord John's hands are

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kind of tied because of who he
is.

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So yeah, now you go traipse on
over to Jamie, the person who is

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the the rebel and the traitor
and the person you have so much

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disdain for, but he's the person
who dropped what he needed to

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do.
He was nursing his sick wife

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who, granted, you got a lot
going on, but you didn't even

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bother to ask about.
You know, it's so sad that I did

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think that I was like, you could
at least went in there and say,

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hey.
Right, 'cause Lord, Lord John

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came and and and, you know, came
to see her to see how she was

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doing, risked the wrath of Jamie
because he wanted to see how she

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was doing.
William could have at least been

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like, Oh, I heard, or is mother
Claire around What, what,

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whatever, But I understand he
has things on his mind.

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He asked Jamie to help.
Jamie goes to Claire and he was

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like, he needs my help.
And she was like, how he

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couldn't even say he was just
like, my son has never asked me

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for anything in his life.
So I have to do it.

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However I go.
He get he gets Lord John because

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he's like, OK, he can go and and
get the information.

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Then I'm going to ask daddy
Jamie because hey, I feel like

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he a criminal so he can help me
do criminal things and get away

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with it again, amazingly.
But the other day you were all

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with this honor stuff.
But it's OK.

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But it's OK, 'cause yeah, you,
you felt like she was on your

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protection because there's Gray
areas to this.

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Exactly like I said, like.
She killed a man it's wrong to

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kill, but she killed them
because he was about to do some

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horrible things to the sister.
Challenging that worldview.

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I do like that Lord John sat
there and was patient

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understanding, didn't jump to
judgment or conclusions.

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Especially like are like you in
love like what is happening here

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because you're you're about to
meltdown about this young lady.

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But you know what I get it.
Let me go find out what is

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happening.
So I did appreciate that you

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know, right now he's in Lord
John is in my heart right now.

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So whatever he does, it's
fantastic.

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I.
Thought it was so funny, though,

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because when William comes to
him and he says, I need your

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help, it's an urgent matter.
And Lord John is like anything.

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He says.
There's a young woman who is in

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trouble.
She's been arrested on suspicion

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of murder.
You saw Lord John's face saying,

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wait a minute, what did I just
tell my son about saying certain

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things like, oh, I'm happy with
anything.

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Oh, wait, murder.
He's like, his face changed so

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suddenly, like.
OK, Did she do it?

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Yes, she did.
But for good reasons, right?

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OK, maybe I need to get the
story before I say I.

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Say before I make that
commitment, but I'm going to sit

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here and listen to my son.
And so to to let him know no

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matter what is happening, I'm
here for you.

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I'm here.
But again, there's only so much

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that he can do as a British
officer, as a British soldier.

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No, as a pirate, 'cause that's
what it looked like in this

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episode.
And you know what I was thinking

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about when you said that,
because I rewatched the episode

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again earlier today.
And it's so weird because if you

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think about the way that he
carries himself when he's in

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red, it is so different from the
way he is in civilian dress.

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He really like when he stormed
out of that tent to go find out

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what he could.
I was like, he does have a

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little bit of a Jack Jack
Sparrow swagger.

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He does he have a swagger to
him.

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That's why I was like, and then
the jacket he had on his whole

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outfit, like he was carrying
himself like it.

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It was hot.
It was a nice swagger.

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Yeah, yeah, it was nice.
I just kept hearing that in my

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head when you talking about him
being a pirate.

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And then the eye patch doesn't
help.

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She doesn't, but you know, the
long cold stuff.

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It's like he's about to join the
Black Pearl.

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I I just right?
But anyway, so William goes to

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Jamie, gets him to come with him
to help.

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And even though that part was
supposed to be serious, there

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was a small spark of not
necessarily happy.

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But when Jamie was trying to
break into the the meeting house

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where she was and he was using
this little technique and

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William asked me, he said, what
are you doing?

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And he said, it's something that
my daughter showed me.

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She read in the book.
And William was like the young

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lady I met in Williamsburg.
And then it just it dawned on

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him and he was like my sister.
And Jamie turned around, looked

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at him like, oh, shit, yeah,
your sister.

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And again, I really, even though
we know that where things kind

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of ended with this, with this
episode, and we do have some

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questions about whether or not
Brianna and Rodger are going to

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come back or whatever.
I really want them to have the

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option to for those two to
explore a relationship because I

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think that will also go a long
way.

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And to William accepting who he
is in in this family as, as

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Jamie's son, because as you can
see, he got some of the answers

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he wanted in this episode, but
he's still, he's still very

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angry.
He's still very like, I'm not

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ever going to call you father,
that sort of thing.

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But I thought when when he says
and he says my sister is kind of

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like one of those things where
he starts thinking like, oh,

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wait a minute, this might not be
as bad as I thought it was.

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Because not only are you dealing
with the fact that this man is

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your father, but there's other
family out there you got to

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think about now, like, oh shit,
I have a sister that I met and

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didn't know she was my sister.
So, you know, all of that's got

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to be in his head too, but.
And then he's probably thinking,

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does she know?
But I think she knows the way

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she was talking to me is that's
what he's replaying back that

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conversation.
Like, oh, she wasn't being

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flirty.
She was saying this because she

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knew I was her brother.
Yep.

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Yeah.
When she when she was like,

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yeah, if I had met you before, I
would have remembered any other

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time that could be taken as
flirtation because, oh, you're

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an attractive guy.
Yeah, if I met you, I'd remember

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that.
But no, she was like, like,

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you're my little brother, but I
can't say you're my little

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brother.
And you could kind of see a

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little bit of excitement on her
face, even though she was doing

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her best to try to, you know,
kind of tamper it down.

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So I I really hope that they do
get to explore that in the next

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season.
But going back to Jane, Jamie

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and William, they get into the
meeting house, and this is like

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a little bit over a week that
she's been gone now, because we

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see when they're talking about
Claire and Jamie, we do see a

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time stamp.
It says one week later.

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We were like, oh, they're OK.
At least they're giving us, you

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know, an idea of how much time
has passed.

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But they get the keys from a
guard.

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They knock the guard out.
They get the keys.

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William goes upstairs.
He's like, Jane, it's me, I'm

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here.
And when he walks in the room,

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Jane has committed suicide.
And it's one of those things

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where it was harder to see it
than it is to read it.

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Because reading, yeah, you have
your your own visual.

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You're, you're kind of imagining
the setup and how they're doing

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it.
But to actually see it and to

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know that if she had just waited
just a little bit longer, I

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mean, of course we know she
didn't know that anyone was

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coming to save her.
And as far as she knew, she was,

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she was about to be hung.
So I guess if you have to, being

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the type of person that she is,
if you have to die, she's the

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type of person who's going to do
it on her own.

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Of.
Course, she's going to do it,

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you know, not have that taken
away from her.

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She's she's going to be the one
that's in control of that.

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And not by men.
That too, especially not by

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those men, not by the British
Army, the ones who, you know,

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are OK with the type of person
Captain Harkness is, but they

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want to turn around and frame
her for such a heinous crime

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that she didn't even commit in
that way.

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So yeah, I was just Williams
reaction was so heartbreaking.

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It was it, It really was.
And when?

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We got and then they even got
Jamie, like, Oh my goodness.

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Yeah, because again, they're
Catholic, so for them suicide

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was a sin.
Right.

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But just just OK, so you got
imagine from my perspective

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without reading books, when you
see William the lie, he's he's

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very in control it except for
the time when he found out that

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he was a bastard.
So he's just just just straight

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laced.
But he is like broken down when

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he is holding her and it just
seeing Jamie like see that like,

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Oh my goodness, like the all
these feelings.

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But you know, it's like a
combination of feelings for him,

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though, It's the feelings he had
for her, just the feelings he

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had because he was able to share
with her.

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The feelings of I'm a bastard
trying to figure out my place in

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the world, the changes that I'm
making.

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I'm I was responsible for her.
Life is shit right now, all of

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that.
It's just the.

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Fact that she didn't care about
the fact that he was a bastard.

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You know, like they, they had a
genuine connection.

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And then also, you know, and,
and we keep talking about

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William and his limited view
and, and the way he was raised.

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You have to think he's never had
to encounter something like this

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before.
Just like he was on the the

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battlefield of the first battle
Saratoga.

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And soon his friend died.
That's the first time he's ever

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had to do that.
That's the first time he's ever

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been in a situation one day he
couldn't control like you said

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to that, that just that couldn't
be fixed.

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You know, whether it be by Lord
John, whether it be by his

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status, his titles, him bringing
Jamie thinking.

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OK, yeah.
So Jamie wouldn't know how to

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get them out.
You know, like, like Jamie said

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earlier when William was like,
well, if you don't help me, I'd

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do it myself.
And he was like, if you could do

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it yourself, you wouldn't have
come to me.

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Right.
And you can't, I can't do it

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myself.
I don't know what I'm doing.

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Right.
But just the fact that you, you

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tried to take all these
precautions, you tried to plan

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for this so well.
And again, if if she had hung on

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just maybe a couple more hours,
they probably could have gotten

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her way.
There would have been some other

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issues, of course, with them
breaking out a, a, a prisoner.

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But you just know.
And you could see it on his

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face, just the heartbreak for
everything.

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Him not being able to protect
her, him feeling like he failed

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her, him trying to go through
all of these emotions because

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even though he didn't tell Lord
John that he loved her, we know

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he felt something.
He did, you know.

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And, and the, the possibility of
that not being explored, it's

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just like there's so many things
that he has to go through now.

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And then also you have Fanny to
think about.

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Like I, I told you, I told her
that she wouldn't get hung, but

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you never accounted for the fact
that she would take her own

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life.
And that might be coming back

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with her.
Right.

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I was going to say something,
but we're not there yet.

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No, we're not there yet.
We will.

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We will get to that part.
I know exactly what you were

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about to say.
We will get to that part.

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That we have all of this for it
to be different at the end.

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OK OK I'm I'm I'm patient yeah
yeah.

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So.
But it it it it was it was

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definitely sad and that he
didn't make it in there in time

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to savor just to just a
collection of feelings that he

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had to go through and stuff.
So, yeah, but the one thing that

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I hope he can appreciate and
see, because Lord John was

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trying to tell him about Jamie,
like you can see just the care

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that Jamie takes.
So he can't be all that bad as

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you want to put him as bad.
He like literally like, OK, I'll

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help you set her down 1st.
I'm gonna help you get her,

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which you thought, 'cause you
know, I'm a criminal.

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But I'm laying her down.
I'm like, cut her hair.

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Her sister's gonna want a piece
of her, you know.

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OK, let's go.
I'm gonna take her sister and

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she gonna hang out with our
family.

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So dude, do you not understand
how honorable a man your your

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your daddy is?
Yeah, but he's got a, you know.

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Like he went, he didn't have to
do.

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Like he could have helped you.
And then once she was dead,

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like, OK, pieces, but he
literally was taking care of the

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afterward part.
Like she was someone that

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belonged to you.
Like she was it was a loved one.

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Like it was almost like your
wife.

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I'm going to take care of her.
OK.

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We'll help, you know, we'll
figure out where she's buried.

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We'll give the little sister the
hair.

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We'll even take care of the
sister.

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You could come visit.
As long as she with me, she's

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taken care of.
Yeah, he do all that.

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Yeah, you're right.
So right.

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But here's the here.
Here's the thing about that,

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though.
Like father, like son, because

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just like he sees all of this
stuff and he's still mad at

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Jamie.
You got Jamie still being an ass

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to Laura, John, when Laura, all
he did was come to see how

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Claire was because he heard that
she had gotten shot.

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Now, this is a person who again,
and and you and I have both said

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it.
We gonna take out the fact that

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this man has been raising your
son.

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We gonna take out the fact that
this man is in love with you.

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This man saved your wife from
death not once, but twice within

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the same period.
He kept her from being hung.

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He kept her from killing
herself.

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Although again, I don't think
Jamie knows any of this because

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the way he looked when Claire.
He did.

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He was like what, you mean save
you?

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Yeah, when she was like, I never
properly thanked you for saving

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my life.
He's looking like what?

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And I'm like, I know you heard
the explanation she gave when

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she talked to you about why she
and John ended up doing what

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they did.
Like, I don't again, I don't

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think they were plain enough
with him.

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I don't think he understands
just how close he was to losing

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his wife.
I don't think they told him that

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they got married because she was
about to be hung for a traitor.

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And I don't even know if if Lord
John knows that Claire was going

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to kill herself that night.
I just know that he knows what

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condition she was in and he
understood that, right?

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And even if she didn't kill,
losing her life, right?

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And even if she didn't kill
herself, she would have not

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eaten or she just wouldn't just
let herself go, right?

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Which?
But he's still mad, he said.

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He pissed me off.
Too and you and.

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Then call her that.
Right.

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And you acting all jealous?
Dude, you got nothing.

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Nothing to be jealous of, just
look at insecure.

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I'm still mad because he needs
to let it go and I'm I'm almost

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with and I want Claire to say OK
this is enough.

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She should have said that in her
bed instead of instead of

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waiting for them to have that.
Yeah, just.

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Like get over the shit, it's
over.

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Because here's the thing, I
think Lord John, when Lord John

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said, do we need to have another
conversation about the whole

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Philadelphia thing?
And Jamie kind of looked at him

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and he was like, no, Jamie
didn't want to hear what Lord

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John was going to have to say,
because Lord John was probably

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going to give it to him with
both barrels.

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Be like, OK, look, so this is
what I meant when I said we were

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both fucking you, blah blah
blah.

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Jamie didn't want to hear none
of.

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That no.
He wants to still be angry, but

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do.
You let it go, let it go.

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They may have saved your wife.
He just saved your son.

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Yeah.
And not only that, he risked

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your ire to come and make sure
that Claire is all right.

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Not because he's in love with
Claire, but because Claire is

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his friend Claire.
Right.

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And he cares for Claire and.
And always has.

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Yeah.
So, like, it's not, I don't

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know, it's something about when
you save each other's lives that

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changes the friendship.
I mean, this goes all the way

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back to when she saved him with
the measles when they had that

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little powwow and they got kind
of got those clear feelings out

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the way.
And Claire was like, basically,

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yeah, I know you in love with my
husband.

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Oh, OK.
You are an uncomfortable woman.

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When they were able to have that
full, full conversation with

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each other, I think he knew how
she felt.

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She knew how he felt, but she
also understood, OK, as much as

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he loves Jamie, he's not going
to cross that line because he

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has something more important,
which is the friendship and

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which is William.
And he said as much in there

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morning after so I don't know
what it's going to.

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Take for Jamie, for him to to
get over it, Yeah, I don't know.

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But it's it's starting to.
It still bothers me.

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It does.
And if this wasn't Outlander and

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it was another show, like if it
was one of our sci-fi shows,

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I'll be thinking that that's not
Jamie.

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Yeah.
I I get you.

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But I mean, that's an imposter
because at some point they do.

446
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,400
But after after you didn't,
after you have been with your

447
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,760
wife who was about to die and
she is better, you also get

448
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,960
clarity.
And this ain't your first time

449
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,880
being by her bedside when she's
about to die.

450
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,720
So at this point, I'm like, I
don't really care anymore.

451
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,720
I'm just happy that she's alive
and we gonna go home to North

452
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,880
Carolina.
But you all of a sudden, that

453
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,840
man is come to see her.
And you, you like you 10 years

454
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:16,800
old, but when?
He came out and he said, do not

455
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,320
call her that.
I know.

456
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,240
Both of us shook our head.
We we, we watched the episode

457
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,360
together last night and both
Michelle and I just looked at

458
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:29,480
each other.
It's like, like, oh Lord.

459
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,800
I said, oh, Michelle is going to
be mad at him because you had

460
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,800
just gotten a little bit better
with him last year and now kind

461
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,440
of like he's back on your shit
list.

462
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,600
He is.
But like I said, like father,

463
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,200
like son.
I mean, and it it other things,

464
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,840
but in it, but other stuff in
the episode has helped, you know

465
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,600
what I'm saying?
Helping William with Jane and

466
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,280
her sister has helped.
Holding Claire above the pot so

467
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,000
she can pee has helped.
Helping her see if there's blood

468
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,920
or not, that has helped.
That was so funny because Claire

469
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,240
was like, can you step out the
room?

470
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,440
I was like, Claire, you know,
not to be vulgar.

471
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,560
That man has probably seen it.
I mean that man has seen every

472
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,640
inch of you, probably tasted
every inch of you, you and you

473
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,240
really been about to be modest
about having to having to.

474
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,760
Pee at the pee.
Girl, if you don't gone

475
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,880
somewhere, if you don't go
somewhere.

476
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,520
He was just looking at her like,
OK, whatever.

477
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,200
You can't even hold yourself
over the pot, so clearly you

478
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,960
need.
But what is it?

479
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,400
I said, And Lord John said the
same thing.

480
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,680
Doctors don't make the best
patients.

481
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,280
Because she's trying to check
out his eye.

482
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,920
Can you take the patch off so I
can see your eye?

483
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,600
Boo you on your on your
deathbed.

484
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,960
Honey, we I'm fine.
Right.

485
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,160
Oh, don't, don't, don't empty
the don't empty that bucket

486
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,920
because I want to check and see
if there's blood in my urine

487
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,040
because my right kidney is
feeling a little sore.

488
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,400
You just got shot, dear.
That that's what that is.

489
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,760
Why don't you let the other
doctor handle it?

490
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,320
Even though Denzel, I would
Denzel was like, I don't want to

491
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,160
do that again.
He was like, he was like, it was

492
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,880
stressful.
It's one thing to do it on

493
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,960
people that you don't know, but
to do it on somebody that's

494
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,720
family.
No, I don't want to do that

495
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,200
again.
Don't make me do that again.

496
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,600
You better not ever get shot
again.

497
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,640
Nothing.
But he was like, that is

498
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,800
stressful.
Like, no, he's not.

499
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,360
Like he was about to cry.
I never want to do that again.

500
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,040
I was like, I know you don't, I
know you don't.

501
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,640
But we got to talk about another
visitor that Claire had, even

502
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,360
though I believed that was just
in her mind.

503
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,920
But we got to talk about Master.
Raymond, Master Raymond.

504
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,440
Yeah, 'cause when 'cause you
know, she was, she was, I was

505
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,160
like, what is happening to her?
So she's breathing.

506
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,480
And then he said something
really quick, and that's when I

507
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,440
heard his voice.
He said when he realized that's

508
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,280
that's what he realized.
I knew something was happening

509
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,040
because she was sleeping.
And as she was sleeping, you

510
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,240
could see the room getting
lighter, like she was almost

511
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,240
kind of illuminated.
So when she was illuminated and

512
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,600
then you look over at the
curtain because she woke.

513
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,960
Well, of course I, I think she
was asleep during this whole

514
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,760
time, but she woke up, she
realized somebody was coming

515
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,600
through the curtain and you kind
of see them come.

516
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,320
I heard him say Mada and the
minute he said Mada, I didn't

517
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,760
have to hear the whole word.
I knew who it was because he was

518
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,000
the only person that called her
that, but I was surprised

519
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,800
because I'm like, what the fuck
is Master Raymond doing here?

520
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,320
So one of the things about this
episode, we did get a lot of

521
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,520
snippets of past episodes you
get and and they did this in the

522
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,400
last episode as well when they
were talking about the battle

523
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,320
sequences.
And what was it that Claire

524
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,520
started the episode with?
She said, she said people who

525
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,520
people who want to go to heaven
don't want to die, don't want to

526
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,560
have to die to get there.
And then you start seeing all of

527
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,720
the the montages of everyone
battling.

528
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,160
You get to see Rupert and Angus,
you get to see Google, you get

529
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,160
to see all this stuff.
So in this one as well, you get

530
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,520
to see kind of snatches of
people from the past.

531
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,800
So when Master Raymond shows up
and he starts talking to her,

532
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,120
you get to see a little bit of
that visual of the of the bird

533
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,160
flying that we saw in the faith
episode.

534
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,480
You know, they're having a
conversation.

535
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,240
And she asked him what he is
doing there because he was like,

536
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,480
are you trying?
Did you try to die on us again?

537
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,120
And she was like, not on
purpose.

538
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,920
I got shot.
And he was like, it's not your

539
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,360
time yet.
And he says, I came to ask your

540
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,280
forgiveness.
And she said for what?

541
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,760
He said someday you'll know.
And he kisses her hand.

542
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,120
He leaves.
You see the image of the birds

543
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,200
again.
And then she she lays back on

544
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,360
the bed and she has tears coming
out her eyes.

545
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,440
But then you see her eyes
closed, and then the room gets

546
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,000
dark again.
And so I was like, yeah, she

547
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,560
totally saw that in her head.
It was just a vision because

548
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,120
Jamie is sitting there.
He's like, nobody came in.

549
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,640
Nobody was here.
And she was like, yeah, I think

550
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,720
Master Raymond was here.
I thought I saw him.

551
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,840
And then she asked, she tells
Jamie.

552
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:36,000
She said when I when I was, when
I had faith, when I was dying,

553
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,120
he he was there for me.
And then she asked the question.

554
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,040
She says, do you think that when
I die I'll get to see her again?

555
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,080
I'll get to see our daughter.
And Jamie is like, yes, I think

556
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,320
you'll see it.
And I was like, OK, that's

557
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,360
really sweet.
I did not expect where they were

558
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,360
going to go with that whole
thing.

559
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,000
So what happens later on in the
episode, Of course, after

560
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,800
everything that happens with
Jane during the earlier part of

561
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,600
the episode, Claire asked Jamie
to take her home.

562
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,920
He she was like, can we go home?
Because I think Claire's like at

563
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,520
this point.
I'm done.

564
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,320
I'm done.
It's been three years.

565
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,480
It's been three years since they
left the Ridge.

566
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,560
Yeah, I'm done.
They've been through war,

567
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,200
they've lost people.
She got shot.

568
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,920
And I think she was like, OK,
you know what, Long live the

569
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,440
revolution, but we go Long live
it from the Ridge, 'cause I'm

570
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,880
not doing this anymore.
Like that was, that was too

571
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,040
close enough, right?
So after everything happens with

572
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,040
Fanny, like you said, Jamie
tells Fanny that they she can

573
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,520
come live on the Ridge with
them.

574
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,360
They will take care of her and
everything.

575
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:55,200
They go to try to find Jane's
grave and she is basically she's

576
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,960
buried in a yard with a whole
bunch of other graves.

577
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,280
None of them are identified.
She can't find her sister and

578
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,960
she kind of has a breakdown.
She and Claire have a a really

579
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,520
nice conversation about
remembering Jane and how she's

580
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,440
always in her heart.
And then she gives Fanny a pack,

581
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,000
a, a, a package of items that
Jane had on her when she was

582
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,719
arrested.
And out of one of these out out

583
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,880
of this thing, she pulls out a
Locket and she opens up the

584
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,159
Locket and Claire's like, oh, is
that a picture of Jane?

585
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:28,760
She says, no, this is our
mother.

586
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,760
So Claire asked to see the
Locket.

587
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,920
And when she looks at the
Locket, her face changes because

588
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,280
she's looking like she knows who
the person is, but it's just a

589
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:43,560
pencil sketch, a drawing.
But when she closes the Locket,

590
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:51,080
the name Faith is on the Locket,
and this is Jane and Fanny's

591
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:58,080
mother's name.
OK, Now, at this point when all

592
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:04,680
this is happening, I'm just
thinking, oh, this is just kind

593
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,960
of one of those things where
signs start falling into place

594
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,320
telling you that this is certain
things you need to do.

595
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,280
So I'm just looking at all of
this as a sign to Claire and

596
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,160
Jamie, yes, you need to go home.
You have another person that

597
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:25,440
you're responsible for and maybe
Faith is is bringing this person

598
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,800
to you at that that.
That's as far as my mind was

599
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:34,480
thinking, OK.
Well, well, my mind went left

600
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,360
and I've hidden Hanukkah light.
You didn't tell me.

601
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:42,680
I think this is about to happen
and I.

602
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,600
Was wrong.
I was like, what?

603
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,480
Because you didn't know why I
was hitting you.

604
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,320
Because I was like, I think this
is about to happen.

605
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,560
But she should have.
She would have mentioned this to

606
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,200
me.
Because in my mind I'm thinking,

607
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,160
oh, when she saw faith, I'm
like, oh, they're trying to say

608
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,840
that's her faith.
And that's why Master Raymond

609
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,520
was like, please forgive me
because it's all in the same

610
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,160
episode.
But I'm like, let me keep

611
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,440
watching.
Because Hanukkah would have

612
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,160
indicated that when I asked
about James.

613
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:13,240
Jane and her sister, she would
have been like, oh, yeah,

614
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:15,720
there's so much more to that
story.

615
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:17,720
Yeah.
And like I said.

616
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,920
But I'm like, OK, maybe that's a
theory.

617
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,400
Maybe that's a theory.
Maybe I'm wrong.

618
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,000
Right.
So then when they're getting

619
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,760
ready to go, they're, they're
packing up the wagons and

620
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,800
everything to get ready to leave
for the rich.

621
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,360
Blair hears some singing coming
from the church and she kind of

622
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,120
ignores it at first, and then
she hears it again and she turns

623
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,360
around and she starts walking
towards the church and you start

624
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,440
hearing the tone and the words
and then they do the whole

625
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,440
flashback thing.
It's the same song that she was

626
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,800
singing to Faith when she was
holding her dead baby in her

627
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,320
arms in the in the hospital.
So she walks into the church.

628
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,160
She's like, kind of weirded out.
You can tell by the look on her

629
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,360
face.
She was like, wait, what?

630
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,560
Because this is also a song that
did not exist in the 1700s.

631
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,160
This is a song from Claire's
original time.

632
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:21,240
So she walks into this church.
She looks, and Fanny is the one

633
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:26,320
singing the song.
So Claire is like, how is it

634
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:32,240
that you know this song?
And Fanny says, my mother used

635
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:36,880
to sing it to us.
And Claire is looking and she's

636
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,960
starting to think about certain
things.

637
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,800
And then we kind of see the
flashes of her and Jane.

638
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,360
And then you see her holding
faith and Master Raymond saying

639
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,360
forgiveness.
And it's just like a whole bunch

640
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,680
of images.
And then Jamie comes in to tell

641
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,000
Claire they're ready to leave.
And he looks at her face and he

642
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,840
was like, what's wrong?
And she looks at him and she

643
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,320
says, I don't think faith died.
I think our faith is alive.

644
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,240
And that's where the episode is.
And I'm sitting there looking

645
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:17,320
like the hell.
Because So there is a term that

646
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,200
is used in television and it's
called jumping the sharks.

647
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,680
And there's basically when you
have a storyline and a plot

648
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:33,520
device that like literally goes
over your head, it goes into the

649
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,600
far depths of space.
Like how in the hell did we get

650
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:42,720
from here to there with this?
And that is the way I'm looking

651
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:47,440
at the end of this episode.
Because as soon as she said it

652
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,800
and Michelle and I looked at
Michelle was like, that's what I

653
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,400
thought.
I was like, how in the heck?

654
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,360
How did you think that?
Because I'm sitting here

655
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:01,160
thinking back to the episode
where she loses faith, OK?

656
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,240
Right, the baby was clearly.
Was clearly dead.

657
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:11,440
And not even only clearly dead.
The baby wasn't even fully

658
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,760
formed because she was not at
full term yet.

659
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,560
The baby had fingers, but no
fingernails, no toenails.

660
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,120
She had no eyelashes.
Her mouth was still sealed shut.

661
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,360
Her nostrils weren't formed.
This is still a an embryo that

662
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:35,040
was maybe a month, two months
away from full development.

663
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:43,200
So it's kind of like, it doesn't
make sense to me that this would

664
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:51,880
be faith now.
But but what got me is now you

665
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:58,960
made William and Jane.
Uncle and niece if that is the

666
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,120
case.
And then they have a big

667
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,960
different.
And they had sex and now it's

668
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,360
like this is getting all
complicated.

669
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,880
Right.
And rememberingly complicated.

670
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,560
Remember we were talking about
the last episode and I was

671
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,560
telling you about what happens
with Buck in the books as far as

672
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,000
him and Galas and and the the
kind of insinuation that they

673
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,920
ended up having a sexual
relationship.

674
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,200
Did they see that's the thing.
It's kind of left open to

675
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,320
interpretation, but the but the
implication is yes, they they

676
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,240
did do something.
OK, so I was saying I hope they

677
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,120
didn't do that in the show
because again, that's that's

678
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,800
very weird.
Even though galas would not have

679
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,400
known Buck was her son and Buck
had literally just found out

680
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,480
that galas was his mom.
So that didn't appear that they

681
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,240
were going to do that in this in
the show.

682
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:54,840
OK, great.
But now you introduce this whole

683
00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:00,200
thing with, with William and
Jane and Faith and and Fanny and

684
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:05,560
Claire and Jamie and it just
makes it not only does it make

685
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,760
it just complicated because
let's be honest, uncle and niece

686
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:17,480
back in the 1700s, That's not as
it's not as unheard of as it is

687
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,240
in these days.
But at least back then, if

688
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:24,040
you're going to do interfamil
interfamilial relationships,

689
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,640
everyone is kind of in the know
about it.

690
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,400
Like it's an arranged marriage.
It's this, that and the other.

691
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,080
It's not unheard of, but it's
still kind.

692
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:38,840
It's, it's still weird, but you
introducing it in this way with

693
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:45,960
that storyline, for me, it
cheapens the story.

694
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,880
And not only that, but it turns
it from something that could

695
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,680
have been really sweet, really
poignant, especially given the

696
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,680
way that William reacted to
Jane, Like after that first

697
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,360
night in the Bronx, 'cause I
mean, if you think about it,

698
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:02,000
even in the brothel, he didn't
want to.

699
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,520
She was the one who initiated
that.

700
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,880
And then after that, every time
she's tried to come at him, he

701
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,000
was like, no, no, no.
Now, if you're trying to put it

702
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,560
that there was something that
William felt about her and that

703
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:20,120
was why he kept her at arm's
length, OK, I guess whatever.

704
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:29,240
But to do it in this way, again,
it takes the sweetness out of

705
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,560
the story.
It just makes it.

706
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,440
It makes it so it.
And just it buddy, it buddies

707
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,560
the water.
And then what it also does is

708
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,040
this should have happened like
I'm gonna be completely honest

709
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,960
with you, this should have
happened.

710
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,640
If we're gonna do this, it
should have happened like last

711
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,680
year.
So we have time to sort through

712
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,800
this so.
Yeah.

713
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:56,120
So now we have to.
We have one season left, 10

714
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:02,840
episodes, one season left.
We need to tie some things up,

715
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:10,080
but y'all just opened up another
can that we didn't need.

716
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,280
And I'm gonna be honest with
you, it sounds like readers

717
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:21,840
didn't want because it won.
OK, I throws things.

718
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,840
This absolutely does not happen
in the.

719
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,920
Books.
OK, and it's OK, it doesn't

720
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,760
happen in the books, but so
here's the question, does it?

721
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,080
And this is for everyone who is
listening.

722
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,040
Does it make sense to do this?
No, it absolutely it.

723
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,920
Doesn't I agree?
Even for just the TV watcher, it

724
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,680
doesn't.
So the only thing I can think

725
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:52,640
of, and I will say this, and let
me tell you when I say it was

726
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,200
hard as hell to stay off the
Internet today because everybody

727
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,720
was discussing it and I was, you
know how I am.

728
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:01,680
I try not to discuss.
I try not to get into

729
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,480
conversations until we've talked
about it here, 'cause I don't

730
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,640
want anybody else's thoughts or
things that they say tainting

731
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,040
me.
It was so hard, so hard.

732
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:21,440
But the only thing I can think
of is this is a purposeful

733
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,600
misdirect.
Like they're giving us this

734
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,120
information.
They're making us think is one

735
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,000
thing, but it's going to be
something different because I

736
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,480
don't, there is no way.
I've thought about it all day

737
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,320
today.
I've gone back and I've looked

738
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,600
at the episode twice today.
I've gone back and looked at the

739
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,600
episode where you know the the
snippet where.

740
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,840
She has the baby.
Where she, where she lost Faith,

741
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,800
where she's talking, where she's
singing to her in the hospital

742
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,520
room?
I'm looking at Faith's details.

743
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:59,840
They gave it to us.
I don't see any way that they

744
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:04,000
could have made that work unless
you were trying to say, which

745
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,600
could be a thing.
You're trying to say that Master

746
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:15,960
Raymond practice in necromancy
brought that baby back And then

747
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:22,800
how like however it was that she
didn't, he didn't give her back

748
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,240
to Claire and Jamie.
I mean, probably because they

749
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,680
probably would have looked at
him like you are a fucking

750
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,640
witch.
Like the child was very

751
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,040
obviously dead.
He could have he could have had

752
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,360
faith.
He could have sent her with

753
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,120
someone else to raise.
I I don't know, but none of this

754
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,040
makes sense and.
Again.

755
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,960
We didn't need it.
And then what else doesn't make

756
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:55,080
sense is that Faith would know
the song, but where did Claire

757
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,320
learn the song?
Was it in her time or what she

758
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,760
did she learn from her mom?
It it it probably wasn't her

759
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,240
time.
But when, when did she learn

760
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:05,600
that song?
I don't know, it's just

761
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,160
something she started singing
when she was holding a baby.

762
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:13,440
OK, 'cause only other thing I
can think of that I thought of

763
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,880
throughout today where it could
be a misdirect and it may not

764
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,480
necessarily be the their faith
that they had was.

765
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:28,760
I felt like in this episode
there were two times where they

766
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,920
were setting things up for Blood
of my blood.

767
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,080
OK.
So let's go with oh.

768
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,280
OK.
What if it's, what if they are

769
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,800
related but not 'cause that's
your faith, Maybe that's your

770
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,680
sister because maybe we don't
know who's a traveler.

771
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,640
Did your mom travel back, end up
having a baby?

772
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,400
You know what I'm saying?
We don't know.

773
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,880
So I thought, well, maybe it's a
relative of hers.

774
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,720
OK.
The other thing that I thought

775
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,040
about because I did think
something similar, not

776
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,520
necessarily.
Her mom, when her mom left, her

777
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,160
mom just started another family.
Yeah, see.

778
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:15,800
I the thing that I thought was
that maybe at some point, and we

779
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,600
don't know this in the we don't
know this in the show, and I

780
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,360
think it might be hinted at or
there might actually be a story

781
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,720
about it in the books, but I
haven't read that part yet.

782
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,720
If Master Raymond is a is a
traveler and we know from season

783
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:36,840
2 that it was kind of, you know,
hinted at that he might be

784
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,960
because he recognized certain
things and Claire.

785
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:47,200
So let's say he's a traveler.
Maybe something that he did took

786
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:52,040
him back to when Claire had the
baby and maybe he was able to

787
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,360
snatch that baby away, do
whatever he does.

788
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,720
But again, it's still it
doesn't.

789
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,880
Or when they gave Claire a baby
that wasn't hers.

790
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,600
That's another one I thought of
should have done.

791
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,400
I thought that that was a
possibility.

792
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:15,120
And really we're going by her
perspective of what happened.

793
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:21,160
So remember when he was helping
her from the infection?

794
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,080
That could really been when she
had the baby.

795
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,600
Cause again, Claire was out of
it.

796
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,520
I'm just, I was just trying to,
I'm just trying to think we're.

797
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,400
Trying to wrap our hands around
it because it.

798
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,280
Doesn't 'cause I'm like well if
it's a misdirect then it is a

799
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,960
relative due to time travel, the
stones.

800
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,320
Or if it's really faith, how
could it be Faith when she had a

801
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,320
stillborn baby?
But what if it wasn't her

802
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,720
stillborn baby?
What if there was a twin and

803
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,880
they didn't pull the second one
out because I again, she was

804
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,120
premature.
Faith was premature.

805
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,760
There have been instances of
women who have been pregnant

806
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,080
with twins and they deliver one
of the twins premature and the

807
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,760
other twin is born when they're
supposed to.

808
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,800
I mean, there's.
But if that's the case too, then

809
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,680
that was would have been when he
said I needed to work on you.

810
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,600
Yeah.
And then that baby was born and

811
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,600
it could that baby, even though
it was early, that baby could

812
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:30,600
have still may have been more
more developed, developed.

813
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,600
Sometimes twins do take the
other twins nutrients and all

814
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,560
that stuff.
But that's in the store.

815
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,920
So that could be it.
But in her mind, she was so out

816
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,240
of it and she was in pain.
Yeah.

817
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,640
And feverish.
I, I don't know.

818
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,360
It's see.
And that's why I don't like

819
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,480
'cause that's making me ask
questions.

820
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,480
And we've been good.
The only questions we're asking

821
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:58,280
is who?
What's the lean of time travel

822
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,160
now?
You making me think, did she

823
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,520
have the baby or not have the
baby?

824
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,680
And was it worth it?
Or are we all trying to tie in

825
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,240
this lovely Thanksgiving family?
That's how it's going to end,

826
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:13,040
with all the Thanksgiving dinner
table praising that they have

827
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,640
this family because you're
making them all connected.

828
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:23,520
But I guess the other thing with
so if let's say if because I'm

829
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:29,800
still not convinced that what
Claire thinks is correct.

830
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,680
I don't think her face, but
where?

831
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:34,880
Would the song come from and see
that's the thing.

832
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,200
Has she sung it?
Someone else has sung?

833
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,280
Where did the song come from?
Because this come from another

834
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,560
traveler.
That's that's my thinking It it

835
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,440
has to, but it's just so narrows
it down.

836
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,800
I mean, like a song that you
will sing to your kid is

837
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,320
different than songs sing to my
kid.

838
00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:03,200
And then someone has to know
what that song is, but I don't

839
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,320
know.
It's so it's too much.

840
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,160
So the thing that I think to be
the last season really bothers

841
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:17,320
me about this is if you're gonna
come with it now that faith is

842
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,880
alive.
You mean to tell me that all of

843
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,840
that grief, all of that
suffering, everything that they

844
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,640
went through mourning that child
was for nothing?

845
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,960
I just I have AI have a heart.
But they're gonna continue to

846
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,640
mourn because she's not alive
now.

847
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,920
So then you find you find out
she's alive.

848
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:48,320
Do we know in the show?
I don't think we know.

849
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:53,080
We just we just know that she
has to be there because no

850
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,560
mother's going to leave her two
kids alone where one has to go

851
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,840
and work in the whore house.
They can if if there's a

852
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,160
situation of indentured
servitude.

853
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,440
Kind of like the beards.
I know, but no, we're not going

854
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,280
there.
I know, but I'm just saying.

855
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,640
No, no.
Because what you going to

856
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,240
rescue?
You going to rescue faith?

857
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,320
From somewhere you're not going
to tell me we can't go there

858
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,080
when they went there they are
the ones who entered we have to

859
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:26,680
make her faith being alive so at
this point the possibilities are

860
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,720
endless we.
But if she's dead, then that's

861
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:31,840
that's no point because then
it's like we find out she was

862
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,680
alive, she had two kids and then
she died, which people do end up

863
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,880
finding that out too.
It's just too much.

864
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,120
So why?
Why?

865
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:42,760
I hope it's a missed, missed
already.

866
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,760
I really hope it is.
I think we don't have time for

867
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,800
this, but you know what, to be
honest with you, we do have

868
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,920
time.
You will know why we have time

869
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,160
because everything is cleaned
up.

870
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,280
Though to be honest with you,
everything is cleaned up.

871
00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:00,200
One thing is not cleaned up.
But they may never even clean

872
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,280
that up.
Which which and which is that?

873
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,720
Ron Cameron if they never go
back, but.

874
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:10,200
Again, I have a feeling that
that's going to have to come

875
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:16,120
back into play because again, if
if you're ending the Rob Cameron

876
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,240
storyline where you left it in
1980 with Brianna coming back,

877
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:23,080
Brianna and the kids did find
Roger in this episode.

878
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,360
That is the one thing that was
very straightforward, very

879
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,960
straight to the point.
Brianna and the kids found

880
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,280
Roger.
No hesitation, no, no issues, no

881
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,600
whatever.
They're at Lallybrock.

882
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,520
Brianna got a chance to speak to
her grandfather, and at the end

883
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,600
of the episode, she and Rodger
are trying to decide what time

884
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,360
they belong in.
Are they going to go back to the

885
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,160
1980s?
Are they going to go back to her

886
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,800
parents?
They're they're trying to decide

887
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,440
that now.
Right.

888
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,480
But it's honestly you can tell
what they have decided of

889
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,040
course, so, so there's no reason
to go back to the 80s.

890
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:02,080
So that's the only problem is.
You gave us the reveal of the

891
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,520
person who was under the mask
when Brianna was trying to fight

892
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,720
off those people at Lalibroc.
So my question would be, why

893
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:14,320
would you do all of that and
then tie that string together

894
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:20,360
just for it to have no effect
and correct that he's in, We

895
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,520
know that he's in this time
trying to kill William, trying

896
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,680
to get an advantage over Hal and
Lord John.

897
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,760
So it's kind of like, why what?
What part of the story is this?

898
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,400
Is this also, I mean, shit, at
this point he could have

899
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,240
something to do with this whole
faith thing, like, oh, let's

900
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,800
plant this.
I mean at this point it could be

901
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,000
anything.
But I'm just I'm just going, it

902
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,520
doesn't.
So I'm just going by what we

903
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:54,680
have for next season, a reason
why we brought this up because

904
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,480
we don't really have anything
happening next season, to be

905
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,720
completely honest with you.
The only thing is the Ron

906
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:05,560
Cameron thing that is it.
And if we don't finish it, we

907
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,840
would be OK.
Because we know that they

908
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,480
decided to go back to the time
where their mom and dad is and

909
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,120
they go back to North Carolina.
So we're they run around the

910
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:20,160
house still looking for for
Brianna and the kids, but

911
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,440
they're not there, right?
But there's nothing else.

912
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,320
So now I think they felt like
they needed to give us something

913
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,200
else.
You would be able to tell me

914
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,440
this.
Is there anything else happening

915
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,560
in the books that could give us
something for next season?

916
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,400
Because honestly, now it's going
to be hard to to have something

917
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:46,040
happen.
They go through it and it's the

918
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,360
end.
Is there other other problems

919
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,560
that can arise that can arise?
Yes.

920
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:58,080
And I'm going to say this
because in not the last episode,

921
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,760
the episode before that, when we
get the flashback of Lord John

922
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,560
and his brother talking about
trying to end the war, talking

923
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,840
about, you know, you could you
could end this before your sons

924
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,520
get involved.
And you know, how made a mention

925
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,840
about his sons and how they have
done things to disappoint him

926
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,720
before.
And we've already met one of the

927
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:22,920
sons.
I have a feeling the storyline

928
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,560
with the other son is gonna come
into play.

929
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:30,200
And that's a lot of drama.
So we may get we may get

930
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:36,600
Benjamin in next season.
I do know that we will meet

931
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:42,520
Hal's daughter next season just
based on something one of the

932
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:50,200
other actors said about about
them finding love or romance for

933
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,720
their character.
So I'm like, OK, you can bring

934
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:57,280
the storyline with Hal and his
children in.

935
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,440
That might take a couple of
episodes because they're they're

936
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,400
going through the story pretty
fast.

937
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,520
I mean, if you think about it,
this, this particular season

938
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,320
pulled largely from the 8th
book.

939
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,760
That 8th book is like I, I don't
remember like 809 hundred

940
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,080
something pages.
So it's a lot of story.

941
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,480
They left a lot of stuff out.
Like I said, we didn't get any

942
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,520
Ferguson, Marsley in this
season.

943
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,960
No.
And we got to have them come

944
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:26,960
back.
That's what I'm saying.

945
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,000
It's so.
'Cause there's a lot of drama

946
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,960
with them too.
A lot of drama with them.

947
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,400
Right.
But we don't have, we don't have

948
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,760
enough time.
I know we we have.

949
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,440
Brought up something else.
That's what I'm saying.

950
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,720
You brought up something else,
and maybe that's something else.

951
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,680
Really only will last about one
episode to explain it and then

952
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,680
they just feel it the rest of
the the season and stuff.

953
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,080
And just at the end, at the
Thanksgiving table, be happy

954
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,440
that you know they're all
together.

955
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,960
Thanksgiving table and you and.
Well, it's better than what I

956
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,320
thought before, but they're
going to be at the Thanksgiving

957
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,560
table.
They're grateful.

958
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,520
And then they're going to go out
and look over the Cliff and say,

959
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,080
this is a lovely life We lead
and look at all of our, you

960
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,280
know, family and our extended
family.

961
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:20,320
William will be there.
And he told me that William got

962
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,120
other stuff he got to deal with
too.

963
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:32,840
So I'm just I'm just like I'm.
So even knowing the stuff that I

964
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:38,520
know from the books, I, I again,
I still don't understand what

965
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,120
the whole faith connection has
to do.

966
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,240
Because even in the books, the,
the portrait that Fanny has, the

967
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,200
drawing that she has, it's not
of her mother, it's of Jane.

968
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,720
It's a very, it's, it's a
charcoal drawing that one of

969
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,840
the, one of the guys who came to
the brothel, one of Jane's

970
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:03,120
regular customers drew of her.
Fanny keeps that and it becomes

971
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:08,800
a big thing because, well,
that's a book spoiler, but it it

972
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:14,720
it plays into the story for a
couple of other characters, but

973
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:19,000
it doesn't have anything like, I
just don't understand what the

974
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:24,960
whole faith connection would be.
It makes no sense for them to

975
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:29,320
introduce that now.
And I and OK, let me say this.

976
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,520
I do understand 1 Diana has not
written the 10th book.

977
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:41,040
Yeah, so the showrunners don't.
I will say this well, the

978
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:46,840
showrunners and Diana both have
said they know what Diana's

979
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,160
ending is for the books.
They have been told that much.

980
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,720
As far as the journey that the
characters take to get to that

981
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,120
particular point, that has not
been explained to them.

982
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:05,600
And they do have the freedom to
craft their own story to end the

983
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,160
show.
The way that they want to end

984
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,000
it, they have already.
Right, this sounds like a A Game

985
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,880
of Thrones issue.
Well, here's the thing, they've

986
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,400
already said that they are not
going to end the show the way

987
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,400
that Diana ended in the books
because one, they don't want to

988
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,040
spoil her book ending for the
book.

989
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,000
And I got that.
But then they're going to get

990
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,760
them through a journey and they
end up in a place where we can

991
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,800
see them continuing on in the
book.

992
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,040
I and see, that's the thing I
don't know.

993
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,560
The only thing I do know is that
Diana knows what they have

994
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,320
planned for the 8th season.
And she's OK with it.

995
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,000
And she's OK with it.
She was like, and I'm I'm.

996
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,840
OK with that, that she's OK with
it.

997
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,960
I still got questions about how
she was OK with this, but hey,

998
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,640
I'm seeing a small part.
See that's the thing.

999
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:57,000
We're seeing a small part once
we see all of we have questions

1000
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,640
now and it's OK to have
questions, but.

1001
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,160
That's one hell of a cliffhanger
to end the.

1002
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,400
It is.
That's what I'm saying.

1003
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,560
I feel like it should be one
more episode next week because

1004
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:06,960
we don't have one more episode.
Yeah.

1005
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,240
We don't know when when Season 8
is going to premiere.

1006
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,920
I mean, they did put out a
little teaser after the finale

1007
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,480
yesterday saying Outlanders not
over yet.

1008
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,920
We still have one more season
coming soon.

1009
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,440
That's all they said.
Yeah.

1010
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,680
So it's maybe either late this
year or very early next year,

1011
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,120
because we also do know that
Blood of My Blood is premiering

1012
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,160
this summer, right?
And maybe.

1013
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,640
We get something in that because
we got something in this episode

1014
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,400
when Brianna's talking to her
grandfather.

1015
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:44,160
I felt like that was setting up
pieces for us to learn about how

1016
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,440
their love came to be and how
she's very similar to Brianna.

1017
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:53,840
All those things I know, but I,
I'm just, I don't know.

1018
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,320
I, that's what I'm saying.
Maybe it's her mom, Not maybe.

1019
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,240
Maybe Faith isn't.
I don't know.

1020
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,200
At at this point I don't even
know.

1021
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,960
Come up with guesses anymore?
Yeah, because we literally, we

1022
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,960
literally could put something on
a, on a circle and we could spin

1023
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:16,760
the circle and throw a dart and
come up with a, a scenario that

1024
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,320
would probably make sense if
you, I don't know, it's like,

1025
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,040
it's like the guy who's sitting
there with the board and he's

1026
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,120
got the strings connecting one
point to this point, to that

1027
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,960
point to that point.
I feel like that's where we are

1028
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,320
with this whole faith thing.
Because again, why would you

1029
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,200
introduce that now?
It makes no sense.

1030
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,120
That baby was clearly dead when
Claire was holding it and

1031
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,000
singing to it.
She very clearly talked about

1032
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,840
the description of that child
when she was, when she was

1033
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,320
telling her, when she was
telling Jamie about Faith.

1034
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:57,160
She was like, she didn't, she
had fingers and toes, but no

1035
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,520
fingernails.
She didn't have her eyelashes,

1036
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:04,080
her eyes, you know her.
I mean, the detail that they

1037
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:10,000
went into with this, this, I
guess it was a doll of Faith.

1038
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,080
Like you could tell the lips
were still sealed.

1039
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,480
The eyelids were still sealed
there.

1040
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,560
The skin was still translucent.
Yeah.

1041
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,800
So yeah, it's got to be Mr.
Rhett.

1042
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,920
It has to be Mr. Rhett, because
anything else doesn't make

1043
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,120
sense.
Especially like you said, how

1044
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,840
the hell would she know that
song?

1045
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,600
How would she know that song?
I don't know.

1046
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,160
It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense.

1047
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,440
There has to be another
traveller involved, or like I

1048
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,360
said, Master Raymond did
something akin to necromancy and

1049
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,960
I just don't.
I'm gonna go with you.

1050
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,720
It's too nice to introduce that.
It's too much to introduce.

1051
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:07,920
That two we got enough
supernatural and fantastical

1052
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,760
things happening in this show,
we don't need to add necromancy

1053
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:14,760
to it.
And then, well, I'll go with you

1054
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,240
said another theory that would
be more plausible.

1055
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:25,240
But then it isn't Faith though,
because if she did have twins

1056
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,680
and he, she did deliver later
when she was out of it, that

1057
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,680
second baby and he didn't tell
her, that really could be.

1058
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,640
And he could have named the baby
Faith, but that's still

1059
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:42,800
different because she still lost
a baby and they're two separate

1060
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,880
entities.
But he just named the second one

1061
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,800
Faith that that would be more
plausible, that would be more

1062
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:57,720
palpable to us watching it
without thinking why?

1063
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,200
Because that could make sense to
me.

1064
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,840
That can make sense that no,
that's not faith that you held

1065
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:15,760
and sang to, but it is the faith
that oh, oh, I got it.

1066
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,360
Oh, OK, he had a twin.
He took the twin.

1067
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:27,720
He travels with the twin.
She did travel back, saw her mom

1068
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:36,960
singing to her sister older,
learn the song and say and then

1069
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:41,000
when she finally got settled and
had her own kids she sunk it to

1070
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,960
her kids.
I mean, that could kind of make

1071
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,480
sense.
And that's kind of along the

1072
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,520
lines I was thinking, I was, so
I was thinking if there's a twin

1073
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,760
and Master Raymond kept that
twin for whatever reason.

1074
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:59,920
I'm thinking if it was something
to that extreme, he probably

1075
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:04,240
kept the baby to protect it
because it, if you think about

1076
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,960
it, and this goes back to
something you said several,

1077
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,080
several episodes ago, when it
comes to travelers, you don't

1078
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,040
know who you're interacting with
and what impact your

1079
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,760
interactions are having on other
people and how that'll affect

1080
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,040
your your family in the future.
You don't know who could be

1081
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,440
after you.
Like obviously if Brianna and

1082
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,320
Rodger and Claire can go back
and forth through time just for

1083
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,880
each other, it stands the reason
if there are other travelers who

1084
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,520
are aware of them, who may be
aware of what kind of impact

1085
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,560
they're having or that sort of
thing, they could be targets for

1086
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,400
other travelers.
We.

1087
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,680
Talked about this before.
It could be a society that

1088
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,520
actually monitors this and don't
know.

1089
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,920
Some watchers or telemaster type
shit.

1090
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:57,760
Right.
That's what I'm saying, like a

1091
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,880
small little group just to make
sure that people don't do things

1092
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,880
that they're not supposed to do,
which still goes with taking the

1093
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,200
baby.
But you don't know what happened

1094
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,880
because the baby could have been
sick and he didn't know if the

1095
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,440
baby was going to survive.
Maybe he took the baby to a

1096
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,720
different time.
You see what I'm saying?

1097
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,680
You, we don't know, but that
would be the only one where we

1098
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:22,720
can be like, 'cause you still
mourn the original faith, but

1099
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,600
this was your other baby that
you did not know about.

1100
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:31,000
Yeah, it's his bonus, which
still makes the Williams stuff a

1101
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,440
little icky, but at least they
didn't get married and have

1102
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:41,080
kids.
And he just, he helped, he

1103
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,040
helped her.
She helped him get through

1104
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,280
something, I mean start to get
through what he needs to get

1105
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:53,200
through and her passing and what
she went through helped the

1106
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,720
connect the family.
That's the only thing we can say

1107
01:07:55,720 --> 01:08:00,320
that was a A+ for what their
relationship, but that would be

1108
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,360
the only reason like the faith
and I'm going to say faith too.

1109
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:12,800
Traveled back, got to see her
mom sing to her dead sister and

1110
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,600
kept that song and sung it to
her kids.

1111
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,040
That is the only way the whole.
Thing is messy.

1112
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,640
Raymond is saying I'm sorry for
not telling you about that

1113
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,960
second child.
It's.

1114
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,840
The whole thing is messy.
I mean, regardless of what we

1115
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:35,359
find out, it is whether if Faith
did somehow survive, whether

1116
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:39,479
it's a different child, whether
I don't know, Master Raymond

1117
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,800
went back and saved the
original, I mean.

1118
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,600
It's hard to go back this cause
Claire would know if he went

1119
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:51,800
back to save the original child
because but just just think it's

1120
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,080
a also good reason why he may
have taken the baby because at

1121
01:08:55,080 --> 01:09:00,439
that time do we know what was
really going to happen between

1122
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:06,479
Claire and Jamie at that point?
No, because Jamie was in.

1123
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:11,160
He was in the Bastille for the
door with Randall.

1124
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,520
Didn't know if Claire.
Well, you know, what if Claire,

1125
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:19,319
if Claire would have died, then
that would have been difficult.

1126
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:23,439
If the child was alive, if the
child was a traveller, didn't

1127
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,600
have anyone else.
Because, you know, even if the

1128
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,439
child had been raised by Jamie,
there's only so much Jamie would

1129
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,640
have been able to teach that
child about traveling because he

1130
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,359
was not the traveler in the
relationship, right.

1131
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:40,240
So he may have thought this is
not a good situation and this is

1132
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,960
all I can go with.
But it's just some, it's to sum,

1133
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,680
just to sum it all up.
They really just screwed us

1134
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:48,920
over.
Yeah.

1135
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,920
Yeah.
They they took, they took a

1136
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,640
storyline.
That was consistent.

1137
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,800
I'm sorry.
It has been consistent like

1138
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,440
everything to me.
And I know I don't know all the

1139
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:06,360
details and how they switch
people up, but everything that's

1140
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:16,160
happened has been so consistent
and right, especially with those

1141
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:20,480
like this is right.
But this through this, even with

1142
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:22,880
me being mad at Jamie, I can
understand.

1143
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,280
I do understand he's gonna,
it'll take him a minute.

1144
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:28,680
He's still gonna have some
feelings about it.

1145
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,920
I get it.
I'm just, you know, just messing

1146
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,440
around.
But this is so not like feel

1147
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:39,080
like the story to me.
It's just my opinion.

1148
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,760
It just don't feel like it.
But I'm hoping that once we see

1149
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:49,000
what happens, it will all make
sense and it will feel.

1150
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:56,640
Yeah, I it's almost like we were
traveling in Florida and also

1151
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,920
ran into a like, snowy
mountains.

1152
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,080
Like where did that come from?
Right, right.

1153
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,800
Like that's.
Not part of the landscape at

1154
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,200
all.
Like if you wanted an emotional

1155
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:10,480
impact for the episode, I mean,
we had plenty of emotion in this

1156
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:11,600
episode.
We did.

1157
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:17,320
We did with the death we find
out that at Ian finds out he's

1158
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,840
about to become a father and
literally immediately after that

1159
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:30,320
happened is we get the death of
Rolo emotional impact like you,

1160
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,040
you're dealing with you.
You have Jamie and William

1161
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,760
having the conversation.
William asked how he came to be.

1162
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,160
Jamie gives him as much
information as he can.

1163
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,560
But the, the, the lovely thing
about that conversation, and

1164
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,360
we'll go back to the other
thing, but the lovely thing

1165
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,360
about that conversation is every
time that you've heard William

1166
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,520
talk about his mother, you
always hear the things people

1167
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,760
have said about Geneva, but
they've always been explained in

1168
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,760
kind of a negative way.
Oh, she was reckless.

1169
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,640
She was this, she was that.
And Jamie was like, she was

1170
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,840
courageous.
Did, did they tell you that?

1171
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,480
Did anybody who knew her tell
you that?

1172
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:13,120
Did they tell you she was bold?
She was confident, She was like,

1173
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:18,320
Jamie gives Wood something I
think he needed, which was a

1174
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,800
positive way to think about his
mother.

1175
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,720
Cuz all he, all he's ever heard
was the, the bad stuff.

1176
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,280
You know, the things that they
label us as women, that's

1177
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,680
supposed to be bad, that's
supposed to be negative that

1178
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,720
we're not supposed to be, We're
not supposed to be loud.

1179
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,640
We're not supposed to be bold.
We're not supposed to be

1180
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,480
confident.
We're not, you know, we're

1181
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:38,520
supposed to be demure.
We're supposed to stay in our

1182
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,400
place.
We're supposed to not talk that

1183
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,760
sort of thing.
And that's especially true for

1184
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,800
the 1700s.
So the fact that Jamie was able

1185
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,920
to give him that and then also
to kind of settle his fears

1186
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,480
because he was like, do you
regret it?

1187
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:56,280
Do you regret it?
And Jamie was like, I regret he

1188
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:00,200
was, you know, Jamie was like,
she died because of it.

1189
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,840
And I will carry that to my, you
know, I would carry that to my

1190
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,760
grave.
I will, you know, repent for

1191
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,120
that, show remorse for that
until my dying day.

1192
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,320
But then he grabs William.
He's like, but do I regret it?

1193
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,920
No.
And you can see, it's so strange

1194
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,760
because you see William smile a
little bit because they show

1195
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,560
flashbacks and you don't know
whether this is in Jamie's head

1196
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:22,960
or whether it's in William's
head.

1197
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:27,880
But you see the flashback of
William as a six year old giving

1198
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,200
Jamie the hug when he realizes
Jamie has to leave, when he

1199
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,600
realizes Mac has to leave.
And I thought that was such a

1200
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,600
great emotional touch.
But then William comes back to

1201
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,120
himself and he was like, I will
never call you father.

1202
01:13:41,480 --> 01:13:44,000
And I was like, Yep, like
father, like son.

1203
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,480
Yeah, and that's that sounds
like, you know, William is not.

1204
01:13:47,480 --> 01:13:49,040
That sounds just like a
teenager, though.

1205
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,760
Yeah.
But it also sounds like.

1206
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,000
Jamie like you get him, you like
you, you had him.

1207
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,840
He, he was melted.
And it's like I'm not gonna let

1208
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,080
him see me melt, but it's not
gonna call you daddy.

1209
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,720
But.
We have all of these emotional

1210
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,640
impact moments.
You have Claire talking to Fanny

1211
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,280
in the graveyard about
remembering Jane, remembering

1212
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,480
how they used to, you know,
their mother used to take them

1213
01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:14,920
to see the fire, the
dragonflies.

1214
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,520
And you have also that
connection too.

1215
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:23,560
But again, the whole faith
thing, they didn't need to do it

1216
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,240
in that way.
I don't think it will serve the

1217
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:33,680
storyline and it was just an
emotional tug for no reason with

1218
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,840
no payoff.
And granted yes I know season

1219
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,840
finale cliffhanger, that's kind
of how you do things you leave

1220
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:44,880
people wanting.
But that was especially if

1221
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,360
drought Lander is about to be
another year plus.

1222
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,640
That was not the cliffhanger
y'all should have left us on

1223
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,800
because you already have people
who are pissed because it takes

1224
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,560
y'all more than a year to come
back.

1225
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,600
Like we complain about these
long hiatuses all the time.

1226
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,080
I'm used to network TV, I'm used
to cable.

1227
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:10,720
Like you get a show in the fall,
it goes on hiatus in the spring,

1228
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,560
it comes back in the fall.
Not these.

1229
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,320
I mean, I think the longest
drought Lander we had as far as

1230
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,720
the show was like almost two
years.

1231
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:28,400
So I just, I, I don't know what
they were going for doing this,

1232
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:35,280
but I, I will say as far as the
season finale, everything for me

1233
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:41,440
was great except for that and,
and the fact that that's how you

1234
01:15:41,480 --> 01:15:45,400
ended it.
It's just kind of, I don't want

1235
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:50,840
to say it killed how I was
feeling about the finale, but

1236
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:55,760
again, I'm confused.
It doesn't make sense like it

1237
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,320
is.
And and we only have 10 episodes

1238
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,920
next season and that's what
that's that part, that's that's

1239
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,720
right there.
That is it.

1240
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:10,800
That's that part right there.
Because now we got to get Bree

1241
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:15,680
and Rodger to Claire and Jamie,
because we already know that's

1242
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,120
where they're going.
They're not going back to the

1243
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,920
1980s because what's going to
happen to go back to the 1980s?

1244
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,240
Roger's going to end up killing
Rob Cameron.

1245
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,840
And then we got a whole new set
of problems, and we don't need

1246
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,120
that.
Just go back to your.

1247
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,600
Parents OK, so that's where you
want to be, you got.

1248
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,800
Ian and Rachel about to have a
baby.

1249
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,680
So you got to tell that story.
You got to tell the story of

1250
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,960
them even getting back to the
Ridge.

1251
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,080
Like I said, they've been gone
three years now.

1252
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:44,080
You got to talk about that they
have to bring in the whole story

1253
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,000
about Richardson because why
bring in the story about him

1254
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:52,000
trying to kill William, him
trying to get advantage over

1255
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:56,240
Lord John and how and not finish
that up.

1256
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,640
You got to bring in Ferguson,
Marsley, because we know they

1257
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:05,200
filmed scenes for Season 8 and
like I said, they have a lot of

1258
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,400
story, especially in the last
few books.

1259
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:13,120
So you got to bring those in.
That's five things there.

1260
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,680
So even if they take an episode
for each of those things, you

1261
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,760
still got 5 episodes.
Are you?

1262
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:25,080
You got to get some kind of
resolution with William, Jamie

1263
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,760
and Lord John.
OK, You got to get that.

1264
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,400
They're going to have to show us
a little bit of something about

1265
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,760
Fanny integrating in with the
family.

1266
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,560
I know that that doesn't have to
take a whole episode, but this

1267
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,920
is a child who has been through
trauma after trauma after

1268
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,720
trauma, right?
They're gonna have to deal with

1269
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,080
that.
OK.

1270
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:53,840
There are at least three things
that I can think of in the books

1271
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,240
that they will probably bring
the screen.

1272
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,440
But it's like we.
That's a lot of story to tell in

1273
01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:03,680
such a short time.
And granted, I think they can do

1274
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:08,120
it because they they did all of
what they did in this back half

1275
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,960
of the season and seven
episodes.

1276
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,960
So OK, maybe they can do it.
But what I don't want them to

1277
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,520
do, like you said, I don't want
them to have the Game of

1278
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,800
Thrones, Game of Thrones effect
where they're rushing everything

1279
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,920
because that won't serve the
story.

1280
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:32,040
I don't want them to leave us
with loose ends unless y'all are

1281
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,440
gonna follow through with that
suggestion somebody made that a

1282
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:37,680
few years down the road.
Y'all do a movie to wrap

1283
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,040
everything up once she releases
the 10th book.

1284
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,560
But I don't think they're gonna
do that because they've already

1285
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,320
come up with their ending and
how the story ends.

1286
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:51,760
So it's just, I don't know, the,
the ending of this episode

1287
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,560
frustrated me.
It really did.

1288
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,000
I thought everything else was
beautiful.

1289
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:03,720
I I loved the scenes with
William Charles van der Waal,

1290
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:13,400
just as William has really kind
of like he has embodied that

1291
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,960
character in a in a huge way.
Love seeing those scenes.

1292
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:23,080
The young actress who they have
playing Fanny, amazing.

1293
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:29,680
You know, everything else that
they have done has been on par.

1294
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,840
I just it, it has been it has
been what they're.

1295
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:40,600
Doing with that I, I don't.
I don't know and even as a non

1296
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,000
book reader at this time I was
going to.

1297
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,480
Go, she said at this.
Time At this time I did at this

1298
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:54,040
time but but I could have been
OK with it.

1299
01:19:54,360 --> 01:20:00,000
But then I started thinking
about Williams and Jane Jane

1300
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,480
relationship and then that kind
of messed things up.

1301
01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:06,640
And then it took me back to when
Claire did go through losing

1302
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,280
faith.
And then that messed me up.

1303
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,240
And then as you sit in it, when
you actually when you're

1304
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,040
watching, you're like completely
shocked.

1305
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:17,960
But when you sit in it, it's
like like, no.

1306
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:22,640
But I think I think for you and
me, and as soon as she said, I

1307
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,280
think our faith is alive, I
think that was the first thing

1308
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:26,880
we said.
We were like oh, so that means

1309
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,080
that William and Jane are
related ill.

1310
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,360
Right, it's like you that that's
and then that dismisses their

1311
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:37,040
relationship up and.
The beautiful story that you

1312
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,000
told with them.
Yeah, it does it to me, it does

1313
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,000
not.
If you listening and you loved

1314
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,400
it, I love that you loved it,
but I can't really go with you

1315
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,120
right now.
And then it's hard for me to

1316
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:55,080
take because then I'm like, why
you spring this up right before

1317
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,160
the last season?
Yeah.

1318
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:06,960
I, I just, I would have wanted
you to have little, little drops

1319
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,440
of it throughout the years so
that when it hit right now, I'll

1320
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:14,080
be like, oh, so when that
happened.

1321
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:19,360
Yeah.
That was, oh, it was some extra

1322
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,760
stuff going on there that we
just didn't know about.

1323
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,160
And I was like, OK, I get it.
This I don't get.

1324
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,720
Nowhere.
Yeah, this.

1325
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,520
Escape out of nowhere.
Yeah.

1326
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:33,480
OK.
So that's all.

1327
01:21:33,480 --> 01:21:38,280
And I mean, even with her, even
with her mentioning faith,

1328
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,000
that's this is not the first
time that she has mentioned

1329
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,320
faith.
They've mentioned faith before.

1330
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:47,480
They mentioned faith even in
this season.

1331
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,160
So now I feel like I got to go
back and I got to look at these

1332
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,680
episodes and see where they
mentioned faith and in what

1333
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:58,120
context and see if there was
anything there that was kind of

1334
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:03,720
like peeking from behind the
curtain to say, hey, this is

1335
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:11,160
going to be a thing later on.
So I don't know I, I don't know

1336
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,080
I.
I mean, we can, we can talk

1337
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:14,960
circles around that point.
Yeah, we can.

1338
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,400
So I, I'm, I'm done.
I just.

1339
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:23,000
That's all I have.
I it doesn't feel like a season

1340
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,840
finale again.
I feel like it should be one,

1341
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,480
one more.
Yeah.

1342
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:35,560
This faith issue overshadowed
everything in the episode and

1343
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:41,480
the whole season for me.
Yeah, 'cause now I I would have

1344
01:22:41,480 --> 01:22:44,440
to rewatch the season to
remember what has No, no, Ian

1345
01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:45,400
got married.
Never mind.

1346
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,760
I'm not going to forget that
part, however.

1347
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,640
I know, I don't know why.
Like I said, there were.

1348
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,680
I don't know why things that
happened.

1349
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:02,160
In this, it was because I, I
love that Brianna had a chance

1350
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:07,760
to talk with her, her
grandfather and it it, it, it

1351
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:13,840
was so it was hard because she
just couldn't say.

1352
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,960
She just made a general like,
oh, we make connections with

1353
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:18,960
people.
Sometimes people remind us of

1354
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,640
someone, you know, or maybe we
have a, a distant, distant,

1355
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,280
distant, distant relative that
we just don't know about.

1356
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,640
Maybe that's the reason why I
feel so, you know, familiar or

1357
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,200
what not.
You know, you kind of make the

1358
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:37,520
man feel like he's crazy, but
he's not crazy 'cause you know,

1359
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,520
he was great like I.
Said in the books the way her

1360
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,240
description is, she is the
spitting image of her.

1361
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:48,240
Mind and and and and then you're
tossing your head certain ways

1362
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,160
yeah, you're going to look like
her 'cause you probably have

1363
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,800
some mannerisms like your
grandma that you know about.

1364
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:59,000
So that part beautiful,
beautiful that the families all

1365
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,640
together, it was a picture
perfect reunion.

1366
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,960
Including Buck that was called
over.

1367
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:10,480
They're all hugging.
But did you notice Buck's face

1368
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:13,120
when he realized that Brianna
and the kids were there?

1369
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,000
He almost looked disappointed in
a way.

1370
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:21,240
Because I think now it's kind of
like Rodger has found his

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01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,080
family.
He is whole again.

1372
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,920
And now this leaves Buck
wondering where he belongs.

1373
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:34,920
That too, I I saw that and I
also saw like my family.

1374
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,400
Yeah.
I saw a mixture, mixed emotions

1375
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:47,800
with him, you know, Ian and
Rachel having the baby, Denzel

1376
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,520
being stressed out that he needs
to take, you know, he needs to

1377
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,640
smoke a joint or something
'cause he's never gone again,

1378
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,640
have surgery on the loved one.
He's like, I'm done.

1379
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,480
I'm glad I did a great job, but
don't call me ever again, right?

1380
01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:06,480
I don't.
Look, look, don't do this shit.

1381
01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:08,640
Next time we tell you to bring
your ass in the church, you

1382
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:14,120
bring your ass in the church.
You know, we have another

1383
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:22,240
family, Rollo, yes, passing,
which was horrible, but that is

1384
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,520
overshadowed by.
The whole safe thing.

1385
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,720
Yeah.
So OK, that's all I have.

1386
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,920
I have no more.
Yeah, I don't, I don't really

1387
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,920
think there's anything else for
us to discuss.

1388
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,320
Like you said, everything else
was just kind of.

1389
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:45,920
Yeah.
And it just makes it again, it

1390
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:50,960
makes it hard to think about
certain things because like that

1391
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:55,840
William and Jane storyline, I
felt like they did it so well.

1392
01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:00,200
And then for them to taint it at
the end.

1393
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,640
Yeah.
It's possible to build and and

1394
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,600
the and the here's the crazy
thing.

1395
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:10,760
So even if we come back Season 8
and we find out it is a

1396
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:16,040
misdirect and they explain
what's going on and maybe faith

1397
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,840
really didn't survive and it has
nothing to do with it, the fact

1398
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,960
that you even put that out there
is going to forever taint us.

1399
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:27,480
We will never be able to look at
that storyline the same again.

1400
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:33,000
We will not be able to look at
it without that taint.

1401
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,840
Nope.
So, yeah, I don't, I don't know

1402
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:41,640
what they I don't know what they
expected from that.

1403
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,360
And once we get done talking
about it, I am going to go ahead

1404
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,960
and go online and and see what
the discussion is.

1405
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:53,480
Our Outlander Sasson X
sisterhood group here.

1406
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,600
They had a brunch earlier today
where they watched the episode

1407
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,280
and talked about it.
I didn't make it this morning,

1408
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:04,360
but I got an inbox today from
one of them and she was like,

1409
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,440
hey, we have a discussion thread
going on.

1410
01:27:06,440 --> 01:27:07,880
I really want to hear your
thoughts.

1411
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,680
And I was like, I'll let you
know as soon as Michelle and I

1412
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,600
get done recording.
So I'm gonna edit this, put it

1413
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:17,760
out, and then I'm gonna go see
what the Internet has to say.

1414
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,960
But those of you who are
listening and have watched it,

1415
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:26,280
I'm really curious as to what
your thoughts are on this whole

1416
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,600
faith reveal and what it could
mean.

1417
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:33,920
So do us a favor, drop us a
comment on our YouTube page, on

1418
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,400
our Spotify page, on our
Facebook page.

1419
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,440
Get in the conversation.
Let us know what you thought

1420
01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:44,400
about this season finale.
The only other thing that I

1421
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:49,000
guess we have to talk about is
Blood of My Blood is coming this

1422
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,040
summer.
We do have that.

1423
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:56,120
We don't have a specific
premiere date yet, but once we

1424
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,720
have that information, we will
share that on our social medias.

1425
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:05,000
Also in regards to social media,
we have joined Fanbase, which is

1426
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:09,000
a new, well, kind of new.
It's it's a few years old, but

1427
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:13,640
it's a social media platform
that's kind of similar to

1428
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,360
Instagram and Tiktok is like a
mash up between them both, but

1429
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,720
it is black-owned and operated.
Their base, their headquarters

1430
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,880
is here in Atlanta.
We have moved to that particular

1431
01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:31,200
social media platform,
especially with Tiktok expiring

1432
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,240
in the next hour.
I think so city.

1433
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,440
Holder.
Is it?

1434
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:38,240
Yeah.
Oh, wow.

1435
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,600
OK, so yeah, so go find us
there.

1436
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,760
But please, please, please join
our conversation.

1437
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:50,600
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YouTube, Spotify, leave us a

1438
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,240
comment.
Let us know what you think about

1439
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,880
this episode.
And for now, that is it for our

1440
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,080
show.
You can find us online at

1441
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:02,240
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1442
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,000
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1443
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,360
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1444
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,200
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1445
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,360
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1446
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,360
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1447
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:15,560
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