Outlander S7E2 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #247

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Michelle and we are
discussing the second episode of

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Season 7.
Of Hello.

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Hello.
I cried so much this episode.

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Like I was trying to hold it
together.

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But it was a.
It was a.

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Emotional stuff.
And then when Jim let out that I

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love you, girl, the damn burst,
I was like not a 5 year old

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making me cry like.
Yeah, it was a I wasn't

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expecting it.
Yeah.

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They they went through a lot in
this episode like they did.

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We talked about this in the last
episode, how it seems like

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they're pushing the story
forward so.

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Finally, OK, last episode we got
rid of the Brown storyline once

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and for all.
This episode we seemingly got

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rid of the Christie.
Right, and it was quick.

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He came to confess quickly.
Quickly and just just put it all

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out there like, oh, OK.
So Alan Christie, you know,

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shows up on the Ridge.
He's at Malva's grave.

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Claire comes over to give her
condolences.

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You know, she's like, I'm so
sorry for your loss, for your

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sister and your father.
And he starts talking to her

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about, you know, how much he
loves Malvin and how you know

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she, he was the first person
that was able to hold her.

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And he was like, you know, she
was so soft and she was so

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perfect.
And she was, you know, I take I

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took care of her.
I made sure she was okay.

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I was the one who made sure she
was fit.

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And he was talking about all
this stuff and you're just, it's

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just like okay.
He's this really protective Big

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Brother.
And then he starts talking about

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when she was little and he was
like, you know, her skin was so

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soft.
And when her privates butted

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like a rose, we were all like.
Clearly looking like what?

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The hell where I start like as
soon as, he said.

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That when you start talking and
stuff, she was like, you see the

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wheels turn like this is the.
Did you kill?

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She was like you kill Malva and
it's like she's trying to.

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You can tell she's holding back
all this rage because she was

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like, if you knew the bullshit I
just went through because of all

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this.
But she was like, okay, let me

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just sit here and get all of
this out.

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So yeah, he talked about how it
had been him and Malcolm, they

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were meant for each other and
then they showed that one little

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scene of him on top of her and
she was just look sitting there

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like I was like, y'all we really
could have did without the

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scene.
Like we have imaginations, but I

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get it.
But they had to show us Malva

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was like he he was the one that
was abusing her in love with

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her.
And then of course, she went

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through the whole thing where
she slept with Ian and she slept

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with the other guy because she
was already pregnant with Alan's

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baby, which we all figured.
And which I knew because I I

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read the books up through that
part.

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So I already knew Alan was the
father.

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I just didn't know how they were
going to play it in the show.

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And they did a good job because
no one should be like, Where did

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that come from?
Did y'all not see the funeral

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where he was about laid on top
of the coffins?

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Yeah, you be like.
That baby's coffin.

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Like, yeah, so it's like, oh.
He didn't seem like he cared

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much for her when they were
walking around.

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But clearly something's going on
here.

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Yeah, but I mean, I guess that's
the way he had to act when they

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were out around other people.
Like, he still acted like they

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were close, like that was, you
know, he was very protective of

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her.
But we always thought that it

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was kind of a weird protection
of, you know, of her and.

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At this point, I guess he felt
like he had nothing else to

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lose.
Because now you, you know, your

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dad just sacrificed himself for
Claire.

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And even though he didn't seem
like he cared that much for his

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dad, I think he still, I don't
know, loved him, respecting him,

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wanted his approval.
And it's just like at this

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point, he has nobody left, so
he's just telling it all to

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Claire.
And he has a gun with him and he

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tries to shoot himself and and
Claire takes the gun.

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And she was like, no, I can't
let you do this.

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Your father sacrificed himself
for me and for you, even though

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you don't deserve it.
He was like, I can't live.

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I.
Woop.

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And now he's dead.
And he's dead.

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Ian was like, no, you can't
live.

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He can't live, Auntie.
And the look on Ian's face, you

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know, he was pissed.
Because I believe that Baron was

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mine and.
He was already upset and I think

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you remember last season, he
talked about he would have

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married now, but they gave it to
us.

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They gave it to us quick.
We didn't have to, like

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literally clear escaped from her
fate.

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In the last episode, now we have
the death of Allen in this

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episode.
So that Christie storyline is

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over.
But I noticed that when Claire

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was doing her little internal
monologue and she was talking

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about Tom Christie and she was
like, surely he he was dead by

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now.
I was like, oh, that means he

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ain't.
Dead.

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Maybe he's not dead.
He's not dead.

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I don't think so.
I think I don't know if he would

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have talked his way out of there
or.

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If he would have bartered his
way out of it, you know, I think

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for that governor and for the
people of this time, they will

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probably be more willing to hang
a woman than they would a man.

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Of course he could be.
He could be on that boat.

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He could be free already making
his way back to the Ridge.

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We don't know.
But in either case, Alan

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Christie is dead.
I don't think anybody will mourn

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him.
And and Ian definitely wasn't

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going to give him an opportunity
or I would say they weren't

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going to give the rest of the
Ridge folks the opportunity to

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point more accusations at them.
Because at this point you have

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nothing to prove what Alan has
just told you.

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Because the one person who knew
everything is now dead.

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So they're like, yeah, we're
just going to bury him up under

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this tree.
And here comes Mrs. Bug looking.

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And at first I was like, is she
going to cause a problem like

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she was?
Like I knew the devil had his

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grip on Alan Christie.
From the moment he arrived on

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the Ridge, I knew something
wasn't right about him.

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I don't know what he did, but I
know you 2.

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And I knew you wouldn't have
killed him unless he deserved

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it.
So let's go ahead and bury this

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body before quickly.
But you know what I was like.

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Mrs. Bug.
Now, we don't know that much

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about her in the show, OK, we
know that she's she's been there

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with Jamie and Claire.
She has kept house for them.

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She has played nanny to, you
know, Brianna's well to gym, at

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least.
So we were like, we know her to

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be this good woman, but the fact
that she was so willing to just

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like, bury a body.
I have some questions about

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Merdina Bug.
Because you don't just walk up

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to a scene of somebody digging a
grave for, you know, a person, a

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person that you know that
everybody knows.

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And then you just like, oh, OK,
I'll help you bury the body and

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don't say nothing.
She's shy.

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In her Yeah, something.
But I liked it though, because

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she came up and was like, huh,
yeah, I knew something was

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wrong.
And let's do this quickly before

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anybody else find out.
And then she start helping dig

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the hole.
I'm like, OK, like you.

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First of all, was she walking
with a hole like did she have

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one in her hand?
No, she had like a basket.

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No, she didn't.
So I guess Claire and Ian just

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had extra gardening tools lying
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OK, we'll take it.
Yeah, take it.

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Either way it goes.
Alan Christie is gone.

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Dead and buried, forgotten
about.

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So that's that that string has
been tied, Brown.

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Yeah, we're done with that.
Thank you.

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Thank you.
No dragging out, which is what

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we said last season.
We don't have time.

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We don't have time to drag this
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That's why I like the pacing
like.

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As soon the episode started and
he started talking, I'm like,

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what?
Damn, we're about to get through

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this quick, the whole thing?
You're giving us the full

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confessional.
Right, right.

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We had draw this out and there's
a scene with Jamie and like, no,

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we're done.
We didn't get to do this last

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episode.
We're gonna do this, this

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episode and we're gonna finish
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I'm like, OK, I'm.
Here for it but the one thing I

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will say about his confession
and what he was saying about.

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Malva and her change of heart,
because she had decided that she

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couldn't go through with the
deception because she loved

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Claire, you know, And that was
one of the things he said that

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he just, he told her to name
Jamie because he figured Jamie

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would just pay her off and tell
her to get the hell on and then

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they would leave together and be
able to raise the baby together.

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So he really thought Jamie was
just dumb and going to be like,

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oh okay, well, I have no proof.
Let me go on ahead and just pay

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her and get this over with.
No, Jamie knew he didn't slip

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with that girl and he was not
about to pay you up, so that's

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where you messed up.
But I think the contrast is

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interesting that Allen gives us
the conversation about how she

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didn't want to go through with
it because she loved Claire, how

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it wasn't right, and then we
kind of see his.

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Recollection of that last
meeting, when she was headed to

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the big house, she was going to
Claire.

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And you know, he told her, look,
we can leave.

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We can raise, you know, our
child together.

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And she was like, Alan, this is
not right.

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And he was like, but I love you.
And she looked at him and she

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was like, but I don't love you.
And that was what set him off.

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That was what made him slit her
throat.

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Because she loved Claire enough
to not want to continue on with

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the forest.
But then when you hear her dad

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talking about her, and then what
we saw of her character, she was

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willing to go along with it
enough that she tried to poison

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Claire and her father.
Whether she tried to kill him or

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not, I don't know.
I think I think she did.

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But it's kind of like it's such
a contrast, like you love this

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woman so much that you don't
want to betray her, you, you

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know?
And break her trust.

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That's what you're saying?
But at the same.

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Time she poisoned her at the
same time.

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Right.
Probably to get out of the

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situation because you were like,
OK, maybe Mr. Fraser, is the

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only way I can get out of this
situation, the only.

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Way I can get Alan to leave me
alone, right?

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You know.
And I can see, I can see that

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because at the time she doesn't
have her dad and Claire not

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around.
She can like how she did kind of

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seduce maybe Jamie she thought
she could.

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And then she can get away from
her brother.

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Cuz at that point she really was
trying to get away from Alan,

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but then she couldn't.
And then Alan set up this plan.

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She's like, well I can't do
that.

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I'm thinking, but you can't
poison people, so why didn't you

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poison Alan?
Right, like you poison Claire

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and and your father.
And then we realized that didn't

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work.
What did you do?

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You cut Claire's hair, thinking
that she would no longer be

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attractive to Jamie.
And because you are.

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I saw a spitting image of her.
You know, you're this pale young

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woman, long brown hair.
You know, I guess in in some

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aspect she was thinking that she
would take Claire's place.

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But I think the problem is, even
though she had her womanly wild,

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as her father said, that she
knew how to manipulate men, she

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knew how to manipulate men who
didn't have a Claire.

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She knew how to manipulate men
who weren't Jamie Fraser or who,

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you know, I would even say with
Ian, like maybe she was sweet on

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him a little bit, but also she
couldn't go to Ian because Ian

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would have made an honest woman
of her.

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Right.
And The thing is, it's like the

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dad saying she manipulated it
didn't really, you know, I don't

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feel like it's a manipulation
when.

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Those boys want to get lucky, so
I'm confused.

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It wouldn't took that much.
However, you just lay with a lot

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of them, so you'd only really
need to lay with one to say that

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they got you pregnant.
But you continue on and you have

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a love spell going on in the in
the woods and you cut that man

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fingers off.
So you know what?

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She's a diverse character, you
know what I'm saying?

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She got a lot going on for
herself.

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She's complex there.
That's the word.

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She's complex.
Yes.

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Better word.
Because she has a lot going on.

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She does.
Right.

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And I do believe that her dad
was telling the truth.

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She was doing some of that
stuff.

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Yeah.
But I think Alan was telling the

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truth too.
I think she did care for Claire.

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I mean, Claire was probably the
closest.

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I believe that she did care for
Claire because there was, there

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was a couple of times when she
looked at her like she wanted to

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tell her.
Allen stopped her.

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The only thing she did not want
to do was the Allen situation.

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So I can see her doing crazy
stuff to get out the Allen

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situation, but she could have
did the easier move and poisoned

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him.
You know she.

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Not the dead she, really.
Could have.

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You could have poisoned Allen.
But at the same time, if you

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poison Allen.
You don't have the quote UN

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quote mastermind to help you get
out of this situation, because

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if you poison Allen and he dies,
you still have to figure out

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what you're going to do as far
as this baby and who you're

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going to pin fatherhood on and
stuff.

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And I just don't think.
I think you should have went.

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I'll be honest with you in that
situation.

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Think of the poison.
Dad and brother hope for the

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best and you come out the
situation.

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Needing someone to be your be
the father you have slept with

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let's say at least two men.
You pick one and out of those

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two men I will go with Ian
because Ian is related to Jamie.

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So you know Ian has some
resources and he can take care

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of you and when you get to a
point when you no longer want

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him, you poison him and then you
become the Black Widow.

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I'm just saying this is this is
but that's this is maturity

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talking.
She wasn't mature, so she just

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didn't poison the right people.
She wasn't.

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And then in that, in that day
and time, like women who are of

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the intelligence of Claire and
Brianna during that time were

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few and far between.
A lot of the women in that time,

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and especially we see on the
show, a lot of them know how to

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use their bodies to get what
they want.

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Not too many of them know how to
use their minds to do the same.

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And I would see that of, I would
say that of mouth with Christy,

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especially because her father
kept her so sheltered and he

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kept her so restrained, You
know, he didn't really want her

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reading.
I do understand that, but she

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knew more than some other women
who have some more experience.

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I'm just saying she did.
In certain, in certain.

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In certain in certain areas,
however, it is horrible what her

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brother did to her.
So it's like, but to me that

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would be the first person I
would try to get rid of.

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So I don't even know how she
feels about because we can't

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take Alan's perspective on
things in the in the video we

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see that, not the video, the
flashback.

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We do see that she didn't care
for it, but like what she

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conflicted.
Did she do?

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Did she really care for her
brother?

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You understand?
We don't.

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That's the part we don't.
We don't have where it was

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probably the reason why she
didn't poison, because she maybe

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did care for her brother but
hated what he was doing to and

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we don't know.
Now Dad is a different story

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because we don't know.
She did find out that that

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wasn't her dad.
Like we don't know.

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We didn't really never get her,
her her thoughts about things.

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Probably did care about Alan,
just because.

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I mean, if you think about the
way that he describes it like.

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He was the one that was always
there for her, and even though

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what he was doing to her was
horrible in some sense, she

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probably still looked at it as
he's still the only person who

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has ever been there for for me.
You know, he protected her from

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their dad's beatings.
You know, he stood up for her.

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He like like he said he fed her.
He took care of her when their

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mother was executed and they had
to go live with the aunt, He

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said their aunt barely fed them.
He was the one that made sure

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that Malva was fed.
So maybe.

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Maybe it was more a sense of
obligation on her part, like OKI

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hate what he's doing and I don't
want to do this anymore.

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But maybe she just felt like she
couldn't completely turn her

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back on him.
You.

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Know, right.
And that would be why she

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wouldn't poison him.
And then The thing is, I feel, I

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don't feel bad for Alan, but
however, he did truly believe

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that she felt the same way.
I don't know how because if you

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looked at the loop the the two
little.

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Flashbacks we had.
He wasn't even looking at that.

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He just like they were together
and he probably got that.

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She cares for me, but it's the
caring for me because I'm a

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brother and I took care of her
and he's seeing.

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It in a whole different way
because he looking all surprised

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when she said I don't love you.
Well, OK, so again, we're

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talking about in the 1700s.
That little flashback we had of

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him where, you know, he was, he
was on top of her and you know,

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she was just laying there, kind
of nonresponsive.

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Other the other flashback where
they were laying in bed

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together, he was holding her
stomach and she again was laying

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in bed.
No emotion on her face.

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No, I mean, she was blank man
back then.

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Didn't really care about women
in their feelings and whether or

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not they, you know, if they
didn't want to bet them, they

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didn't care If they just lay
there and took it, they still.

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I got to that as, but with Allen
he's a he's a little bit more

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touched on the emotional side.
You can tell he I still feel

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like he was like really feeling.
Like they had a love connection.

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I mean he, I think he really did
because of what they've been

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through.
He feels like they had a

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connection.
They did because they were

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siblings.
But he that they had a

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connection, you know, he was her
protector.

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They were there for each other.
Like he thought this was soul

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mates.
Yeah, he said as much, right?

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He was like, from the time she
was here, there was no one.

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There was no one else for either
of us, and even when he said

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that, he said that before, he
said The other stuff I was like,

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oh, so we're about.
To have, like, confession now,

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right?
I'm like, OK, so oh, so this is

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how this went down?
So this is And you started

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looking like Claire was in
between horror and rage.

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She was like, horrified for what
Melvin had been through.

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But she was like, I'm about to
kill this motherfucker right

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now.
Not only for what he did to

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Melba, but also for what he put
her family through.

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Like she literally her their
house was attacked.

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Speaking of which, who fixed the
house while they were gone?

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Because the windows were all
repaired, the doors, but anyway

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we won't go into.
That Mrs. and Mr. Bug did okay.

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Maybe they maybe they did.
And maybe the people on the

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Ridge.
Who?

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The twins.
You know, Lizzie.

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Lizzie couldn't do nothing
because she was heavily pregnant

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at the time, right?
But she still probably helped

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out a little bit.
Yeah, So.

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But you know, their house was
attacked.

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Claire was taken from town to
town to town.

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She was kidnapped.
She was stoned.

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She was almost hung, like, just.
You can see it on her face.

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She was like, I don't want to
get another thing at your mouth.

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I just want you gone.
But her sense of who she is, she

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wouldn't even allow him to kill
himself because again, that

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would have been too easy.
It would have been better for

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him to be arrested, him to be
him to confess and him to sit in

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jail, to think about what he
did.

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And I think that's kind of what
Claire was thinking, too.

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But of course.
You know, you have some other

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people who are hot tempered with
good reason who were like, Nope,

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he he does not need to live
another day.

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He's done.
Thank you, Ian.

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Now we have a close to the
Christie storyline.

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At least we think we do.
So anyway, on to happier things.

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Brianna has the baby.
He has a little girl named

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Amanda, which we knew was
coming.

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I again did not expect the
quickness of how the storyline

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was going to go with Mandy to to
take place because in the books

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Mandy is a little bit older when
they discover her heart issue

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and they decide that they have
to go back through the stones in

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order to save her, but he or she
still like.

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Very much a newborn.
Maybe.

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Only a few days.
Maybe a few weeks old?

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No, she looked like she was a
few days old when Claire notices

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this blue tinge on her
fingernails and she takes a

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listen and she hears like the
murmur.

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So basically, Mandy has a
murmur.

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She has the the little hole in
her heart did not close up when

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she was born.
And in this day and time,

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there's really no way to fix it.
So Claire is basically prepping

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Brianna for.
Be inevitable that Mandy will

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most likely die.
And it's like while they're

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having this conversation and
Roger and Brianna are are crying

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and they're upset, it's almost
like you can see Claire and

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Jamie both have the same
realization together but

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separately like oh shit, they're
going to have to go back because

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when Brianna says can you fix
it?

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And Claire's like, no, I can't
and she was like.

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But I know someone who can, I
said.

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She about to send her back to
Doctor Joe, she about to send

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them back to the future.
And it's like, Jamie's, the way

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he reacts to everything with his
eyes, with his face.

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I was like, this dude already
knows.

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He's about to lose his family
and there's nothing you really

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can do about it because he he
knows that this is the best

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thing.
Like, what would you do?

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If this was Claire and it was
Brianna, he'd be like, take your

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ass back now.
Why aren't you?

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Hey, I'm good.
I'm good, right?

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But what is?
So what is so fuck not funny?

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But it's just like when they
were like, can you do something?

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Claire was like, no, I mean, I
have that much experience.

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But she was.
I wasn't.

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I was.
I was like, I wasn't.

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But she was trying to process in
here.

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Like, there's no way, like I
didn't have that much surgical

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rotation to do this.
Like, I mean.

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Do this, and I could, but I
don't.

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But I don't want to take that
chance.

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Not with her grandchild.
She probably would have done it

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for one of these other folks on
the red.

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Older people, right?
Because it's like if it works,

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it works, if it don't it don't,
but I can't do I don't know if

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because that's something totally
separate.

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And you're talking heart
surgery.

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You make one mistake and there's
there's no fixing that.

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Especially in this day and time
when you have very limited

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surgical tools.
You don't have the proper

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anesthesia because are you
really about to give a baby E,

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Sir?
I don't think so.

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I don't think so.
You don't have the proper

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anesthesia.
You don't have the proper.

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Shit, this is a newborn baby.
You need to have some

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sterilization, you know, even
more so than you give these

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older people who probably would
survive most stuff anyway

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because of the way that and the
pain and stuff like that.

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But hey, you can't do that to a
newborn.

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00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:50,780
You cannot.
So they have to make the

450
00:25:50,780 --> 00:25:52,780
decision that okay, we're going
to go back.

451
00:25:52,980 --> 00:25:54,740
Now we have to get some
gemstones.

452
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,240
They go to Wilmington to try to
get these gemstones.

453
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:06,400
And who does Brianna bump into?
But Lord John Gray, yay, and his

454
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,920
son, Right, the 9th Earl of
Ellesmere, who also happens to

455
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,120
be Brianna's brother.
And it was weird seeing it a

456
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:19,550
little bit because.
He was looking at Breanna like

457
00:26:19,630 --> 00:26:24,430
she's nice looking and not
thinking now, but it's so funny.

458
00:26:26,110 --> 00:26:29,630
Thank goodness she married.
Because the way that Brianna was

459
00:26:29,630 --> 00:26:34,790
responding to him, yeah, if you
don't know the history between

460
00:26:34,790 --> 00:26:38,790
these two characters, like it
would have come across as kind

461
00:26:38,790 --> 00:26:40,390
of flirty.
Flirty, right?

462
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:45,420
She was more so.
Excited about the fact that, Oh

463
00:26:45,420 --> 00:26:47,500
my God, I'm finally meeting my
brother.

464
00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:50,660
And that's when he was like,
have we met before?

465
00:26:50,660 --> 00:26:53,340
And she was like, no, I
definitely would remember.

466
00:26:53,340 --> 00:26:55,740
I'm like Brandon, that's a
flirty lie you can't say.

467
00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:00,220
He's looking like she.
Met it in a different way, But

468
00:27:00,220 --> 00:27:02,140
yeah, it was funny when he said
that.

469
00:27:02,140 --> 00:27:03,860
He was like, have I seen you
before?

470
00:27:03,860 --> 00:27:07,700
I was like when you look in the
mirror technically because you

471
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:11,660
know, they did some good casting
with that because he does have.

472
00:27:12,490 --> 00:27:16,410
Some of the features that would
make it look like he is related

473
00:27:16,410 --> 00:27:19,650
to her and Jamie.
So he has some really good

474
00:27:19,650 --> 00:27:24,130
casting with that, Like he looks
just different enough for it not

475
00:27:24,130 --> 00:27:27,330
to be like, bam, that is your
son walking around who stole

476
00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:30,090
your face.
But it's close enough that he

477
00:27:30,090 --> 00:27:34,290
can be like, you look familiar.
Oh, that's that's Colonel

478
00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:37,490
Frazier's daughter.
Oh, yes, the girl from hell

479
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:39,610
Water.
I was like.

480
00:27:39,970 --> 00:27:43,970
Yeah, So he really can't run
into Jamie because he'd be like,

481
00:27:43,970 --> 00:27:46,330
damn, that dude look like what I
would look like when I get

482
00:27:46,330 --> 00:27:48,970
older.
Yeah, it would.

483
00:27:52,730 --> 00:27:55,690
But the look on Jamie's face
when he when he sees them

484
00:27:55,690 --> 00:27:58,650
together, because he's coming
across the courtyard, he happens

485
00:27:58,650 --> 00:28:02,010
to look up and he sees Lord John
and Brianna and William and I

486
00:28:02,010 --> 00:28:06,090
think it was just everything in
him was screaming like.

487
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:08,500
I need to go.
My two children are together,

488
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:11,780
but at the same time he knew he
kind of had to stay back.

489
00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:15,620
And then also because I forgot
about the whole little argument

490
00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:19,620
he and Laura John had in the
last season when he joined the

491
00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:23,820
Sons of Liberty.
So technically speaking, they

492
00:28:23,820 --> 00:28:27,980
are on opposing sides right now
and we hear them talk about that

493
00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:32,340
when Jamie goes to Lord John to
speak to him and it's like.

494
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,760
You can see the friendship is
still there.

495
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,880
You can see that Lord John is
obviously still in love with

496
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,000
Jamie.
But you know, I think more

497
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,640
important for the both of them
is that one William has signed

498
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,680
up to be in the army.
He is a red coat now and he is

499
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,120
planning on fighting against the
rebels, which means that if

500
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,480
Jamie stays and takes up arms
with the Sons of Liberty that he

501
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,800
will be fighting across the
battlefield from his son.

502
00:29:03,660 --> 00:29:07,540
That's a no, no.
Jamie is like, Nope, The last

503
00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:11,660
time I had to do that, I ended
up taking my godfather's body

504
00:29:11,660 --> 00:29:13,540
off the battlefield.
I'm not doing that again.

505
00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:17,460
No, I would never fight for the
British and Lord John is still

506
00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:20,780
trying to appeal to him.
But Jamie is like, look, this

507
00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:22,860
friendship is dangerous for both
of us.

508
00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:25,580
As you say, we we're on opposing
sides.

509
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:30,220
So at this point, the best
things for us to do is to sever

510
00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:35,890
all ties.
And the pain with which he says

511
00:29:35,890 --> 00:29:42,530
this, not just because of
William, but because Lord John

512
00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:46,130
is his closest friend,
regardless of everything else

513
00:29:46,130 --> 00:29:50,330
like that, is the man who has
seen him through a lot of shit.

514
00:29:51,370 --> 00:29:54,450
And then he's, you know, taking
care of your son on top of that,

515
00:29:55,130 --> 00:29:57,010
you know, that wasn't easy for
him to say.

516
00:29:57,930 --> 00:30:01,300
And I I I tell you.
I can never.

517
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:03,900
I can't sit through and watch
Lord John cry.

518
00:30:03,980 --> 00:30:05,780
I don't like watching him tear
up.

519
00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:08,660
It hurts me to the depths of my
core.

520
00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:11,060
I can't do it.
So this thing was so hard

521
00:30:11,380 --> 00:30:14,140
because you can tell both.
There's so much emotion in

522
00:30:14,140 --> 00:30:17,140
between these two.
Can't.

523
00:30:18,060 --> 00:30:20,660
Be besties anymore.
We have to go our separate ways.

524
00:30:20,660 --> 00:30:24,860
I was just like the look of Lord
John's face when Jamie walked

525
00:30:24,860 --> 00:30:26,220
out that door.
I was just like.

526
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,040
I have to pause my TV now.
But I mean, I love it because I

527
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,960
love that connection that they
do have, and you can see the

528
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,640
history and the love that they
have between each other.

529
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,680
And I have to go back to Brianna
talking to Laura Gray about, oh,

530
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,320
you should, he shouldn't know
who his daddy is.

531
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,960
Honey, that ship has sailed.
There's reasons this is not like

532
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,160
this is 1975.
Okay, we can't do this now.

533
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,320
And and like the.
Consequences.

534
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,360
It's a It's heavy.
Yeah, it's it's a it's a lot.

535
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,200
So much more devastating than it
was for Brianna.

536
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,280
Like, literally.
William Ransom is an inherited

537
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,170
title.
His lands, his money's

538
00:31:12,290 --> 00:31:15,330
everything.
Like if it's found out that he

539
00:31:15,330 --> 00:31:21,090
is not the the 8th Earl of
Ellesmere's son, he loses

540
00:31:21,610 --> 00:31:24,930
everything.
His titles, his lands, his

541
00:31:24,930 --> 00:31:30,610
money, his reputation, his name.
It was his whole identity.

542
00:31:31,530 --> 00:31:37,010
Granted, Brianna did too, but
she gained so much more.

543
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:41,110
From that secret.
And you know, that secret had to

544
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:44,230
be kept from her for different
reasons.

545
00:31:44,750 --> 00:31:47,110
Frank was the one who told
Claire never to speak of her

546
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:49,070
time.
He was like, I don't want

547
00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:51,470
Brianna to know She's going to
know she.

548
00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:52,950
She's going to know she's my
daughter.

549
00:31:52,990 --> 00:31:54,230
I'm going to raise her as my
daughter.

550
00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:56,310
She doesn't need to know about
anybody else.

551
00:31:57,270 --> 00:32:00,190
And at that point, it kind of
made sense because.

552
00:32:00,310 --> 00:32:03,910
And it was, and it was
complicated like this is

553
00:32:03,910 --> 00:32:06,070
straightforward.
We know the consequence.

554
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,840
Brianna, yours is complicated.
How are we going to explain to a

555
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,280
13 year old girl that your momma
takes the stones?

556
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,080
Right.
See that?

557
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,520
That's something that requires
some maturity.

558
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,800
And some of you got to know when
you older Okay, because I can't

559
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,480
say your dad is from this time.
Because you'll be wondering why

560
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,760
your dad neglected you and then
come and see you and it it was

561
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,360
too complicated.
So your first dad made sense by

562
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,200
saying no.
We shouldn't tell her.

563
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,520
Because then you be looking at
your Mama like why we not

564
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,800
committing her right like oh
this newspaper said that you

565
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,040
were taken by the ferry.
So you still seeing ferry like

566
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,640
it's a it's a lot there was a
reason for you.

567
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,240
But here is straightforward it's
it's it's more complicated in

568
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,960
the matter of the time of what's
left of this man.

569
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,880
And then it goes back to even
his mom his his mom they had a

570
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,080
title so then that also says
that.

571
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,120
The reputation of your mom is
out the window too.

572
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,920
She can't defend herself.
Yeah, but.

573
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,560
Brianna was also older than
William is now when she found

574
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,800
out.
And we see how well she took it.

575
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,200
Thank you.
So, no, I mean, but I

576
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,600
understand.
And I I appreciated her telling.

577
00:33:28,060 --> 00:33:31,460
Lord John, about her experience
with Frank, because he was like,

578
00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:34,780
Can you imagine what it would do
to him to find out at this age?

579
00:33:35,060 --> 00:33:37,540
And she just said then she was,
she just kind of chuckled

580
00:33:37,540 --> 00:33:39,780
because she's like, yeah, I kind
of know I have firsthand

581
00:33:39,780 --> 00:33:43,180
experience with this.
So I understand both sides of

582
00:33:43,180 --> 00:33:45,820
it.
And like you said, one took

583
00:33:45,820 --> 00:33:49,020
place in modern times, that
things were a little different.

584
00:33:49,580 --> 00:33:52,620
Things taking place now.
If you were to find out now with

585
00:33:52,660 --> 00:33:54,500
everything that's going on, I
don't think.

586
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:56,550
Yeah, that wouldn't be good for
him.

587
00:33:56,670 --> 00:34:00,630
However, spoiler, which I don't
really know guys, but he's going

588
00:34:00,630 --> 00:34:04,270
to find out because you're
setting up for him to find out.

589
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:08,469
I know that he does find out.
I don't know which book he finds

590
00:34:08,469 --> 00:34:11,389
out, but I hear that he finds
out and that he's pissed.

591
00:34:11,389 --> 00:34:15,310
About it so that well clearly
and we well we clearly said that

592
00:34:15,310 --> 00:34:17,630
that's that was going to happen
so yeah.

593
00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:22,310
Yeah, but I I figured, OK, we
talking about this, so we going

594
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:24,030
to find out?
He's going to find out.

595
00:34:24,030 --> 00:34:26,590
Oh yeah.
And I think it'll probably be

596
00:34:26,590 --> 00:34:32,270
sooner rather than later because
one, like we said, we have 16

597
00:34:32,270 --> 00:34:35,630
episodes in this season.
So I think they probably will

598
00:34:35,630 --> 00:34:39,350
explore that in this season as
opposed to waiting till the last

599
00:34:39,350 --> 00:34:42,870
season because I feel like
they're going to have to do that

600
00:34:42,870 --> 00:34:45,870
this season and then whatever
happens in the 7th season is

601
00:34:45,870 --> 00:34:49,230
going to wrap up.
The story because like we

602
00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:53,750
discussed last week, they have
to get books with 6789.

603
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:57,590
The different pieces from all of
those books into these two

604
00:34:57,590 --> 00:35:01,270
seasons.
So I would say, especially at

605
00:35:01,270 --> 00:35:06,790
the pace that they're moving
now, maybe 2-3 episodes at the

606
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:09,150
most from.
Now, yeah.

607
00:35:10,030 --> 00:35:11,750
We we probably will find that
out.

608
00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:15,830
So, yeah.
But the whole thing with William

609
00:35:15,830 --> 00:35:20,040
and Brianna.
Meeting it does result in

610
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,040
another bonding moment for her
and Jamie, you know, because oh,

611
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:31,400
also, Lord John gives Jamie back
the sapphire that Jamie gave him

612
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,160
from Silky Island because Jamie
tells him, oh, that's why we're

613
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,600
here, you know, the gemstone is
for Brianna.

614
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,320
Brianna tells Lord John they're,
you know, she and Roger are

615
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,000
going to Boston, but she doesn't
explain why, so they go out.

616
00:35:45,820 --> 00:35:48,500
On a walk, and they have this
nice father daughter

617
00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:52,340
conversation.
Jamie is happy about the fact

618
00:35:52,340 --> 00:35:54,460
that she got to meet William
before she left, but he was

619
00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:57,300
like, you know, he's in the
army, you're leaving.

620
00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:58,740
I'm kind of worried for both of
you.

621
00:35:59,980 --> 00:36:04,180
And Brianna goes into this whole
thing about, you know, she tells

622
00:36:04,180 --> 00:36:08,740
him about the future, She tells
him about, she tells him about

623
00:36:08,740 --> 00:36:09,780
Disney.
Disneyland.

624
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:13,420
Because that the name of the
episode is the Happiest Place on

625
00:36:13,460 --> 00:36:15,860
Earth.
So she talks about this magical

626
00:36:15,860 --> 00:36:20,460
place that Claire Frank took her
to when she was little and how,

627
00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:22,980
you know, had different types of
games.

628
00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:25,500
And it's really, you know, a
place for children, but it's for

629
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:28,700
adults too.
And she's just basically talking

630
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:30,780
to him about how magical things
can be.

631
00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:34,860
And they have this really nice
conversation where he asked her,

632
00:36:34,860 --> 00:36:37,900
he was like, so are you
disappointed being here in this

633
00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:39,420
time?
And she was like, no.

634
00:36:40,030 --> 00:36:41,470
This is not a disappointment to
me.

635
00:36:41,470 --> 00:36:45,990
And I have a feeling that if
Mandy wasn't sick, you know,

636
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:52,110
Brianna and Roger tried to go
back once and the Stones brought

637
00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:57,230
them right back.
So obviously they realize that's

638
00:36:57,230 --> 00:37:00,830
where they wanted to be, even
with all of the hardships, even

639
00:37:00,830 --> 00:37:04,310
without all of the, you know,
modern amenities.

640
00:37:04,850 --> 00:37:06,050
And that was where they wanted
to be.

641
00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:09,370
And I think Brianna would have
made her peace with staying

642
00:37:09,410 --> 00:37:13,850
there and raising her children
there with her parents until

643
00:37:14,410 --> 00:37:17,570
maybe until Claire and Jamie
died.

644
00:37:17,570 --> 00:37:19,210
And then maybe they would have
tried to go back.

645
00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:21,050
But at that point the kids will
be too.

646
00:37:21,250 --> 00:37:23,770
Old, yeah.
And I'll be like, I'll be

647
00:37:23,770 --> 00:37:28,170
looking like, okay, I'm 20 and
you take me, this is a big, a

648
00:37:28,170 --> 00:37:31,610
big difference here.
So 1011.

649
00:37:31,650 --> 00:37:33,290
Is.
That's going to be.

650
00:37:33,530 --> 00:37:39,130
Just imagine the conversations
in middle school if they went

651
00:37:39,130 --> 00:37:41,050
back then.
So no, I I feel like they

652
00:37:41,170 --> 00:37:45,450
actually made their peace when
it they realized it brought them

653
00:37:45,450 --> 00:37:48,490
back to the place.
They wanted to be and they're

654
00:37:48,490 --> 00:37:51,930
like, okay, this is where this
is where we want to be.

655
00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:54,050
But now they have no choice.
They have to be.

656
00:37:55,050 --> 00:37:58,010
And that's that conversation
with Bree and Jamie.

657
00:37:58,050 --> 00:38:00,330
They have some of the best
conversations.

658
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,920
You know, we can get really,
really lovely heart to hearts

659
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,360
with them again.
Crying.

660
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,560
Crying.
Because I'm like, I don't want

661
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,800
to see this happen.
I know you don't care too much

662
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,000
for Roger and Brianna Story, but
I kind of like the fact.

663
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,200
That no, I like this story now.
I didn't care for episode one.

664
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,720
I needed to find out what was
going on with Claire and Jamie.

665
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,040
I'm like, I don't need this
distraction.

666
00:38:26,410 --> 00:38:29,370
Right now this is a good
distraction but bad distraction.

667
00:38:29,370 --> 00:38:32,650
But that one was a distraction
on that story that we needed to

668
00:38:32,650 --> 00:38:35,090
get finished.
Now, get her ass off that ship.

669
00:38:35,450 --> 00:38:36,930
I don't want to hear about
Brianna.

670
00:38:36,930 --> 00:38:42,970
They good, they're good.
But now it's I do.

671
00:38:42,970 --> 00:38:48,010
I mean, I do love this story.
It's quite interesting and I

672
00:38:48,050 --> 00:38:51,210
want to know the history of
Roger because it's just

673
00:38:51,210 --> 00:38:54,410
interesting that they found each
other and they're both.

674
00:38:58,980 --> 00:39:03,580
Travelers, So we do get a little
bit of Rogers history in the

675
00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:07,900
books.
And then I think there is also a

676
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:12,980
a vignette story that is
included in Seven Stones to

677
00:39:13,020 --> 00:39:15,980
Standard Fall.
That's the collection.

678
00:39:15,980 --> 00:39:17,500
It's like an anthology
collection.

679
00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:20,900
Her Little Short stories.
They put it in one book and

680
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,460
released it a few years ago.
So there's a little bit of.

681
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:30,300
Information about I want to say
it's Roger's father, who may

682
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:35,140
have been a traveler as well.
Because one of the things that

683
00:39:35,140 --> 00:39:40,460
happens in the books that did
not happen in the show was that

684
00:39:40,460 --> 00:39:45,260
when Roger tried to come find
Brianna the first time, when he

685
00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:49,020
when he was trying to travel
Fiona, Mrs. Graham's

686
00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:52,660
granddaughter, went with him to
the stones to kind of make sure

687
00:39:52,660 --> 00:39:57,360
everything went okay.
So Roger goes through the stones

688
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,600
and he almost immediately comes
back to the same spot.

689
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,880
And it was because when when he
was traveling through the

690
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:10,080
stones, apparently you can hear
the voices of other travelers,

691
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,440
especially ones who have gotten
stuck.

692
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:15,920
So there's because, you know,
there's some travelers who don't

693
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,200
know that they're travelers.
And when they get to the stones,

694
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,120
especially if they don't have a
gemstone, apparently they just

695
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,480
kind of get stuck in limbo.
And there was a Roger doesn't

696
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,480
know if it was a vision or if it
was something that actually

697
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,320
happened.
But he believes that he saw his

698
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:39,440
father on the other side of
that, that travel, and it's like

699
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,280
he saw his dad.
And I don't, I don't recall if

700
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,280
it was that his dad pushed him
back through or if it was just

701
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,560
one of those things where he was
startled and tried to go back

702
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,360
through and he ended up back
where he was.

703
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,280
I do know that there was
something about.

704
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,760
Him having seen his dad and he
was like, I think I just saw my

705
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,680
dad.
And so there is a little bit of

706
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,960
a back story on that.
I don't know if we'll get that

707
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,000
in this show.
It would be nice to see because

708
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,360
yeah, you kind of do wonder like
Roger's A traveler.

709
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,880
They are very rare.
So how is it that you know it.

710
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,000
It's just interesting that Roger
who comes from the Mackenzie

711
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,240
clan, you know his his family
line is from the Mackenzie's.

712
00:41:22,770 --> 00:41:27,090
Like where did the travel thing
come through?

713
00:41:27,970 --> 00:41:31,250
Like of course it had.
It had to start with galas.

714
00:41:31,690 --> 00:41:35,850
But does it hit every
generation, you know?

715
00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:38,730
And then I don't know.
Because they now they were

716
00:41:38,850 --> 00:41:41,930
always destined to meet each
other because of the Because the

717
00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:45,570
kids.
Because both kids have it right.

718
00:41:46,570 --> 00:41:48,610
And that thing was so
interesting too, when they were

719
00:41:48,610 --> 00:41:51,630
sitting there trying to decide.
If when they were going to

720
00:41:51,630 --> 00:41:54,830
travel because they were like,
Amanda is so small, we don't

721
00:41:54,830 --> 00:41:58,550
even know if she can travel.
And Jamie was dangling one of

722
00:41:58,550 --> 00:42:02,750
the gemstones, if you know, in
front of her and Roger pulls Jim

723
00:42:02,750 --> 00:42:05,630
over, he was like, Jim, can you
can you hear anything?

724
00:42:05,830 --> 00:42:09,950
He was like, yes, it's singing
And she, she hears it too.

725
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:11,430
And they were like, how do you
know?

726
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:14,830
He said, she said, so I was
like, oh, OK, so him and his

727
00:42:14,830 --> 00:42:18,750
sister, they got this little.
Connection already I was, yeah.

728
00:42:19,250 --> 00:42:20,930
I thought that was really cute,
but.

729
00:42:21,250 --> 00:42:22,850
It was.
It was like, she can hear it.

730
00:42:22,850 --> 00:42:27,210
She's saying, so I'm like, okay.
They were like, oh, okay, well,

731
00:42:27,210 --> 00:42:28,050
I guess we're.
Doing well.

732
00:42:28,050 --> 00:42:29,290
I guess we can move.
Yeah.

733
00:42:29,370 --> 00:42:31,170
And we going tomorrow.
We're ready.

734
00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:33,410
Right, right.
Because at that point, now that

735
00:42:33,410 --> 00:42:39,330
you know, any kind of hesitation
just puts her in more danger.

736
00:42:39,490 --> 00:42:44,970
You're prolonging what she
needs, you know, to to be

737
00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:47,120
healthy and to.
Stay alive.

738
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,800
So that that whole little
sequence there of them going to

739
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,400
Wilmington, getting the gems,
Jamie presenting Claire with her

740
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,400
own gem, he was like, yeah, if
you want to go back with them

741
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,600
because Claire was already
fretting, you know, she's like,

742
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,600
if I was in my own time, I would
be in the waiting room with them

743
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,320
while she was having surgery.
And it wasn't her saying that to

744
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,440
say I need to go back with them.
She's just talking it through in

745
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,240
her mind because again.
After she says that, she was

746
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:21,760
like, well, I did do a cardiac
rotation, I don't, you know, I

747
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,000
could do this.
And she starts talking her way

748
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,720
through it.
I can, you know, go in, do this,

749
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,600
so this, it's possible.
But even she sounded like she's

750
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,360
doubting herself.
Like, I don't want to take this

751
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,480
chance.
And Jamie, that's what Jamie has

752
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,400
this conversation with her.
And he tells her, you know, I've

753
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,240
dreamt of you in your own time
before and she was like, really,

754
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:44,160
what was I doing?
He said.

755
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,200
You were sitting at a desk
writing, I think, and she asked,

756
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,760
how did you know it was my time?
And he said because of the light

757
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,600
around you, it didn't look like
candlelight.

758
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,720
It didn't look like the kind of
like that we had it, you know,

759
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,880
And I thought to myself, oh,
this must be what electric light

760
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,760
looks like.
And she had, you know, she's

761
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,200
like, well, how can you dream of
something you've never seen

762
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,760
before?
And he was like, do you not do

763
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,120
that?
She was like, yeah, I do.

764
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,680
But with landscapes and people,
she was like, that's different.

765
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,500
I'm like, how is that different?
Right.

766
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:14,500
How is it?
It's not.

767
00:44:14,780 --> 00:44:17,220
Right.
And he said that he sees it.

768
00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:18,860
And he was like, why I dream of
the past.

769
00:44:18,860 --> 00:44:20,380
Why would I not dream of the
future?

770
00:44:20,860 --> 00:44:23,340
And I was like, OK, so, OK,
yeah, me too.

771
00:44:23,340 --> 00:44:27,060
I was like, OK, right.
But then she said, of course you

772
00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:30,540
do.
Of course, because how else do

773
00:44:30,540 --> 00:44:33,740
you answer that?
So when he starts talking about

774
00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:37,900
this dream and seeing Claire in
the future, I started wondering

775
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:40,860
some things.
I did remember.

776
00:44:43,740 --> 00:44:48,780
Back in the very first episode
of the very first season when

777
00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:55,220
Claire is standing in the window
and she is brushing her hair,

778
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:58,300
and actually that was not
electric light that was behind

779
00:44:58,300 --> 00:44:59,980
her.
We were talking about this off

780
00:44:59,980 --> 00:45:02,980
camera that was candlelight
because remember, the lights

781
00:45:02,980 --> 00:45:07,380
went out, the power went out, so
that was candlelight that she

782
00:45:07,380 --> 00:45:10,100
was brushing her hair with.
So it wasn't that time he was

783
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:14,550
talking about, but we see.
Jamie standing in the courtyard

784
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:18,670
looking up at Claire and it's
actually his ghost because Frank

785
00:45:18,670 --> 00:45:21,070
actually brushes past him when
he turns around.

786
00:45:21,070 --> 00:45:25,030
Jamie is gone.
Also at this time Jamie is the

787
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:28,430
younger version of his self.
He is very much season one,

788
00:45:28,430 --> 00:45:33,190
Jamie with the beret and the
tartan and like full out

789
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:36,430
Scottish regalia, but I was
like.

790
00:45:37,630 --> 00:45:40,230
OK, so is this.
This could be explaining it

791
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:44,230
though, or it could be the start
of it, right?

792
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:47,710
Because he can learn how to
project himself.

793
00:45:48,830 --> 00:45:51,910
Could be.
Or he could actually be walking

794
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:54,030
through time in his dreams.
I mean, I.

795
00:45:54,070 --> 00:45:55,190
Don't.
He really could.

796
00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:59,190
And you don't have to be a
certain age to do that.

797
00:45:59,190 --> 00:46:01,910
You could be projecting the age
you were at the time.

798
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:05,110
I don't know.
It's all up to you and your

799
00:46:05,110 --> 00:46:08,050
brain.
You're right, right.

800
00:46:08,170 --> 00:46:12,010
Because if if you think about
other shows where people have

801
00:46:12,010 --> 00:46:15,770
died, you know, at old age, I
mean, I'm thinking of a couple

802
00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:21,610
in particular, Titanic when Rose
finally dies and she when she

803
00:46:21,610 --> 00:46:25,050
meets up with Jack and her, you
know, in her version of heaven

804
00:46:25,050 --> 00:46:29,650
or whatever, she is back to the
age that she was when she met

805
00:46:29,650 --> 00:46:30,770
him.
Right.

806
00:46:31,050 --> 00:46:33,810
And all the people and the age
when they died on the Titanic.

807
00:46:33,930 --> 00:46:36,530
Right, Which I mean, but they
wouldn't have aged.

808
00:46:36,530 --> 00:46:40,530
But she did.
But when Jack takes her hand,

809
00:46:40,930 --> 00:46:43,130
you know he takes her hand.
She's an old woman.

810
00:46:43,130 --> 00:46:47,130
But then when the camera pans to
her, she said to the young self.

811
00:46:47,410 --> 00:46:50,890
The other one is more recently
supernatural.

812
00:46:51,210 --> 00:46:55,890
When Sam dies, he's an old man,
but when he meets Dean and in

813
00:46:55,890 --> 00:46:58,780
heaven.
He's back at the same age that

814
00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:05,540
he was the last time being saw
him, and even you know, the Star

815
00:47:05,540 --> 00:47:11,820
Wars people, that's the same
when Darth Vader dies and he's

816
00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:14,740
his son, sees him.
Well, I can't think of his name

817
00:47:14,740 --> 00:47:17,020
right now.
And we see young Anakin.

818
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:20,620
We don't see old Darth Vader,
even though I was placed in the

819
00:47:20,620 --> 00:47:23,100
movie.
But it was the point to be made.

820
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:29,880
It was the IT was the innocent.
Mannequin ripe age of twentyish

821
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:36,840
versus old man Darth Vader
smiling, so you know.

822
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,080
But yeah, so I thought that was
very interesting.

823
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,800
So when I start popping up in
people dreams, when I pass, I

824
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:52,920
want to be, you know, the sexy
in my 20s or in my 40s.

825
00:47:53,710 --> 00:47:57,350
Not my 80s, OK?
This is true because because

826
00:47:57,430 --> 00:48:00,470
even as a ghost, you can't do
much of venturing if you can't

827
00:48:00,470 --> 00:48:01,350
move around.
Right.

828
00:48:01,350 --> 00:48:02,550
My knees.
You know what I'm saying?

829
00:48:02,550 --> 00:48:06,350
When I need ibuprofen 800.
No, I want to do it where I'm,

830
00:48:06,350 --> 00:48:10,510
you know, limber.
I can move around, right?

831
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:14,950
Yeah, right.
So but it it's a start of

832
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:22,790
something, which means if others
can walk through stones.

833
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,960
We can give Jamie something he.
Can he can walk through the

834
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,800
light.
He can't.

835
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,120
He can't physically go through
the stones.

836
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,000
So.
But we gotta give him something.

837
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,880
Yeah, he.
Can he?

838
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,560
Can we can dream of the future?
Right.

839
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,480
That would be nice.
I mean, it was hard for me

840
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,840
though, because I'm like, huh,
But you saw her and you are

841
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,480
explaining electric lights.
Well, how you doing that?

842
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,960
And I'm having a hard time
believing that.

843
00:48:49,350 --> 00:48:52,630
In a show where they are about
to travel through stones with

844
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:57,470
gyms.
And then I realized, Michelle,

845
00:48:57,470 --> 00:49:00,710
really this man can dream of the
future.

846
00:49:00,790 --> 00:49:03,830
So you can believe in some kind
of magic, but not other kind of

847
00:49:03,830 --> 00:49:04,990
magic.
Right and did that.

848
00:49:05,110 --> 00:49:07,630
Stones where they can travel up
to 200 years.

849
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:10,230
Oh, that's nothing.
That's that's nobody dreaming of

850
00:49:10,270 --> 00:49:14,190
electrolite.
How the hell he doing that in

851
00:49:14,190 --> 00:49:19,050
the same episode?
I'm like okay, so I let I let it

852
00:49:19,050 --> 00:49:21,730
go and said he can dream of the
future.

853
00:49:22,610 --> 00:49:26,410
Just seriously, a whole family,
four people with four different

854
00:49:26,410 --> 00:49:30,010
stones traveling to a.
Certain time.

855
00:49:30,370 --> 00:49:32,730
And I'm having trouble because
he dreamed of electric lights.

856
00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:37,330
And they made it and they made
it this time, you know, they

857
00:49:37,330 --> 00:49:40,450
wake up at the stones.
Jim is playing with his toy

858
00:49:40,490 --> 00:49:42,810
airplane, which he took with him
through the stones.

859
00:49:43,180 --> 00:49:45,420
And you know, when they're
trying to sit there and figure

860
00:49:45,420 --> 00:49:48,580
out, well, did we make it?
And then they hear the plane,

861
00:49:48,580 --> 00:49:53,340
look up, There's an airplane.
It was like they made it.

862
00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:57,860
And then also when you see them
pan out to the surroundings.

863
00:49:57,860 --> 00:50:01,260
So they went to the stones at
Ocracoke and they came over by

864
00:50:01,260 --> 00:50:03,380
boat.
And you saw it when, you know,

865
00:50:03,380 --> 00:50:08,940
back in Jamie's time, lush
trees, beautiful.

866
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,240
When we get to whatever year it
was that they traveled to, I

867
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:14,760
don't know what year they
traveled to.

868
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,080
It was dry.
The river has dried up and looks

869
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,240
so completely different.
So yes, they're they're back

870
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,920
where they should be.
Right.

871
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:31,200
And it was the IT was a
emotional goodbye that was hard.

872
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,680
OK?
When they were at the Stones, it

873
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,640
was hard.
Because.

874
00:50:37,070 --> 00:50:39,550
When when they're saying their
goodbyes, you know, Claire

875
00:50:39,550 --> 00:50:43,670
saying her goodbye to Brianna
and she's talking about how she

876
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:46,390
went through the stones, wants
to protect her baby and now she

877
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:50,470
has to do it to protect hers.
And she was like, it feels like

878
00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:52,150
goodbye.
I'm never going to see you

879
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:53,710
again.
Or that's what Brianna says.

880
00:50:53,710 --> 00:50:59,270
And Claire was like, look, we've
said goodbye twice before and

881
00:50:59,270 --> 00:51:02,110
you always came back.
So never say never.

882
00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:05,070
You know, I think Claire, at
least in some way, has a little

883
00:51:05,070 --> 00:51:08,650
hope.
And then when she she reaches

884
00:51:08,650 --> 00:51:12,170
down or she mills down to talk
to Jim and she was like, you

885
00:51:12,170 --> 00:51:13,930
take care of your baby sister,
OK?

886
00:51:13,930 --> 00:51:16,530
You teach her how to play hide
and seek like we taught you to.

887
00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:21,690
He was like, I love you girl.
When I say the waterworks

888
00:51:21,690 --> 00:51:25,770
started flowing, the dam broke
because I was already emotional

889
00:51:25,770 --> 00:51:27,770
at this point.
I was like, I don't like their

890
00:51:27,770 --> 00:51:32,130
goodbyes heart wrenching, their
gut wrenching you have.

891
00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:34,140
Claire and Brianna over here
saying this.

892
00:51:34,140 --> 00:51:38,100
You've got Jamie telling Roger
that he was a good man, a man of

893
00:51:38,140 --> 00:51:40,660
honor.
How proud he is and.

894
00:51:40,660 --> 00:51:42,740
You have little Jim with his
little voice.

895
00:51:42,860 --> 00:51:45,860
I love you.
I was just lying.

896
00:51:47,260 --> 00:51:49,060
I bet you they were a mess
filming that.

897
00:51:49,060 --> 00:51:52,140
Scene.
And then when he goes to say

898
00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:56,100
goodbye to Granddad, he was
like, I don't want to leave you,

899
00:51:56,140 --> 00:52:04,970
Granddad, stop doing this to me.
And the But for me, the hardest

900
00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:08,410
one was actually Jamie and
Brianna.

901
00:52:08,410 --> 00:52:10,370
I don't know, because he'd be
looking at her like she's still

902
00:52:10,370 --> 00:52:15,050
a kid, you know what I'm saying?
It was like my baby is leaving

903
00:52:15,050 --> 00:52:18,210
and I'm like, Oh my gosh, but
you know.

904
00:52:18,250 --> 00:52:21,530
At the same time he he is.
But I'm just happy at the time

905
00:52:21,530 --> 00:52:24,330
that they had together.
Yes, that's what I was going to

906
00:52:24,330 --> 00:52:26,610
say.
He's looking at her like, you

907
00:52:26,610 --> 00:52:29,530
know, truth be told, I should
not have even had this time with

908
00:52:29,530 --> 00:52:33,110
you.
But he was like, I can't say

909
00:52:33,110 --> 00:52:36,470
goodbye to you.
And she was like, it's not

910
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:39,310
goodbye you.
What did she say?

911
00:52:39,310 --> 00:52:41,270
You.
You are part of my heart and my

912
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:43,070
soul.
And I will carry you with me

913
00:52:43,070 --> 00:52:44,750
all.
I can't even say it.

914
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:50,190
Oh my God.
That thing was like, we've seen

915
00:52:50,190 --> 00:52:52,950
goodbye scenes on the show, and
that's one thing that actually

916
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:56,260
do very well.
All their goodbye scenes,

917
00:52:56,260 --> 00:52:59,460
whether it has to do with
someone dying, whether it has to

918
00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:04,500
do with them going through the
stones, they're all so emotional

919
00:53:04,540 --> 00:53:09,460
and heartfelt and gut wrenching
and beautiful and horrible and

920
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:14,340
it's just like they nail it
every single time.

921
00:53:14,660 --> 00:53:19,980
And this one was just, I think
it was more emotional simply for

922
00:53:19,980 --> 00:53:22,950
the fact that.
It actually was goodbye, like

923
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:24,670
the way that they pan the
camera.

924
00:53:24,910 --> 00:53:29,550
You see Brianna and Roger
holding hands with the kids and

925
00:53:29,550 --> 00:53:32,590
they walk towards the stone and
then you see the back of the

926
00:53:32,590 --> 00:53:34,990
stone and it's like all of a
sudden you know that they're

927
00:53:34,990 --> 00:53:38,110
gone.
And what does?

928
00:53:38,110 --> 00:53:39,830
What does Jamie say?
He said.

929
00:53:42,270 --> 00:53:44,990
He said for your sake, I will
continue.

930
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,120
For my sake alone.
For my sake alone, I would not.

931
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,880
And I was just like I would not.
They're going to have a hard

932
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,880
time with this.
And when they go back to

933
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,640
Fraser's Ridge and they're
laying in the bed that night and

934
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:04,440
neither one of them can sleep,
Claire, I think, to kind of help

935
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,560
her get out of the head space,
she tries.

936
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:12,360
To be intimate with James, it
doesn't she it doesn't work.

937
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,560
She's got too much emotion,
Penta, And he lets her just talk

938
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,920
about it and she talks about how
they belong.

939
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,120
She was like, we've lost our
whole family.

940
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,360
Roger, Brianna, the kids,
Marsley, Fergus.

941
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,440
Even though they're not
physically gone, they're in a

942
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,160
whole different city.
I don't even know if we're going

943
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,480
to see Marsley and Fergus this
this season, which makes me

944
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,200
upset.
Because, well, you don't know if

945
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,000
they're in the future books.
I don't know.

946
00:54:41,450 --> 00:54:45,130
I don't even know.
I think I want to say at some

947
00:54:45,130 --> 00:54:48,450
point they do find out that
Claire is the traveler, but I'm

948
00:54:48,450 --> 00:54:52,730
not sure.
And see, now we got questions.

949
00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:54,530
Now you're going to make me go
and read the books.

950
00:54:54,530 --> 00:54:57,250
And I said I wasn't going.
To do not don't do it I the

951
00:54:57,250 --> 00:55:01,370
questions I have we will find
out later I'm just I'm just

952
00:55:01,370 --> 00:55:06,610
wondering I'm just just like I'm
you know I want to know if.

953
00:55:07,370 --> 00:55:11,130
They do get back together again.
If Brianna and Roger and the

954
00:55:11,130 --> 00:55:15,530
kids do come, I mean I don't
know and and it's it is one of

955
00:55:15,530 --> 00:55:18,650
those things where should they?
Because that's a risk you have

956
00:55:18,650 --> 00:55:22,050
to take two with kids taking
them through those those stones

957
00:55:22,690 --> 00:55:25,810
and then you.
Are you're taking them from one

958
00:55:25,810 --> 00:55:29,650
time to another now, depending
on how many years they're there

959
00:55:29,650 --> 00:55:33,570
in that future time, when they
come, if they come back?

960
00:55:34,490 --> 00:55:37,170
Are they going to know, You
know, they'll be older at that

961
00:55:37,170 --> 00:55:40,210
point, obviously.
But will they know enough to

962
00:55:40,210 --> 00:55:43,250
say, hey, you can't talk about
this, you can't talk about that?

963
00:55:43,250 --> 00:55:46,050
It's kind of like.
I feel like the stress of it

964
00:55:46,050 --> 00:55:51,490
would be too much, too much to
try to govern or watch what

965
00:55:51,490 --> 00:55:55,330
they're saying all the time
going forward at the age that

966
00:55:55,330 --> 00:55:58,800
Jim is now.
It's probably a little bit

967
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,440
easier because you can always,
if he says something that's out

968
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,200
of place, you can always say,
oh, he has an overactive

969
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,200
imagination or that sort of
thing, you know, Or you can

970
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,040
explain it the same way.
Jay, hey, he has very vivid

971
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,320
dreams.
I've told him enough about my

972
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,960
father and my mother that he
pretends that he, you know what

973
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,640
I'm saying?
You can explain it away.

974
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,640
And it not be so weird, but
taking them from the future and

975
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,000
bringing them back to the past.
I mean you saw how how much of A

976
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,560
struggle it was for Claire and
Brianna and Roger to kind of

977
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,080
adapt and realize oh we can't
say this.

978
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,800
Oh we can't do this.
Even though, you know Brianna

979
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,080
did do some things that she
wasn't supposed to do like

980
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,080
creating matches which we will
talk about in a little bit.

981
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:49,320
But you know it's it's like I,
I, yeah, I I don't know if I I

982
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,700
don't know if they come back.
And I don't know if I want to

983
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:55,940
know now because then I if I
find out, yes, they do come

984
00:56:55,940 --> 00:56:58,860
back, I'm going to be like so
impatient for that part of the

985
00:56:58,860 --> 00:57:00,940
story to happen.
And I don't want to do that.

986
00:57:00,940 --> 00:57:04,380
That's why I said once they've
announced that the series will

987
00:57:04,420 --> 00:57:08,980
end with season 8:00 and that
they are going, they're telling

988
00:57:08,980 --> 00:57:12,020
story up through book nine, I
was like okay at this point.

989
00:57:12,020 --> 00:57:15,580
It makes no sense for me to read
the books now, especially since

990
00:57:15,580 --> 00:57:17,340
we know that they've changed
some stuff.

991
00:57:17,380 --> 00:57:21,040
I'm just going to wait and see.
What happens?

992
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:26,200
But I do hope that they do get
to see each other again before

993
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,120
whatever happens.
Claire, Jamie, whatever.

994
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:36,720
But Claire, once she kind of
backs off Jamie and she's

995
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,120
talking to him about their
losses and he starts telling her

996
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,560
about his losses too.
And he was like, you know, I

997
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,880
think about all the people that
we that we.

998
00:57:46,660 --> 00:57:48,780
Lost.
He names Mertha.

999
00:57:48,780 --> 00:57:52,980
He you know, he just starts
naming people and then she just

1000
00:57:52,980 --> 00:57:57,140
completely falls apart.
And I was just like, y'all are

1001
00:57:57,140 --> 00:58:05,060
killing me with this episode
because you feel every ounce of

1002
00:58:05,060 --> 00:58:09,900
grief that she is held over the
last however many years you feel

1003
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:13,780
all of it.
Because for the most part, when

1004
00:58:13,780 --> 00:58:19,220
Claire has experienced grief.
She cries, but I don't think she

1005
00:58:19,220 --> 00:58:21,780
mourns properly.
She doesn't grieve properly

1006
00:58:21,980 --> 00:58:25,580
because really, she doesn't get
the chance to, because there's

1007
00:58:26,140 --> 00:58:31,180
she doesn't have time, because
there's always the next drama,

1008
00:58:31,180 --> 00:58:33,700
the next trauma, the next
whatever.

1009
00:58:33,940 --> 00:58:36,780
So she doesn't really have a
chance to sit there and just

1010
00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:40,660
allow herself to feel it.
And I swear.

1011
00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:44,670
She felt every goddamn thing in
this scene because I was sitting

1012
00:58:44,670 --> 00:58:46,950
there feeling emotionally
drained watching her.

1013
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:50,510
And all Jamie could do was hold
her and he was like, you grieve

1014
00:58:50,510 --> 00:58:52,590
for them and when you're done,
I'm here.

1015
00:58:53,870 --> 00:58:58,190
And I thought that was one of
the most beautiful scenes in the

1016
00:58:58,190 --> 00:59:04,150
show because it it it's about a
different type of intimacy

1017
00:59:05,110 --> 00:59:08,670
between them.
And again, you get to see just

1018
00:59:08,670 --> 00:59:13,990
how, how much on the same
wavelength Jamie and Claire are.

1019
00:59:14,590 --> 00:59:16,750
You know, for all their
differences, as far as them

1020
00:59:16,750 --> 00:59:19,910
being from two different times,
them being, you know, two

1021
00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:22,430
different people experience two
different things.

1022
00:59:22,750 --> 00:59:25,910
Just the fact that he connect,
he is able to connect with her

1023
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:27,670
like he can figure out what's
wrong with her.

1024
00:59:27,950 --> 00:59:31,510
He says what he needs to say.
He allows her the space to

1025
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:34,870
grieve and get it out and and
doesn't try to.

1026
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,600
He doesn't try to tell her to
stop.

1027
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,400
He doesn't try to, you know, he
doesn't try to make her say, oh,

1028
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,480
he's.
Present with her in that moment.

1029
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,200
Yeah.
So I I think that was a that was

1030
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,360
a very beautiful scene.
And so, you know, after that we

1031
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:55,000
get to see them on the farm,
just trying to live life.

1032
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,320
And you know, she talks about
how it's been several weeks.

1033
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,750
Lizzie has her baby.
And you know what does Claire

1034
01:00:01,750 --> 01:00:04,990
say?
Everyone is enamored is so

1035
01:00:04,990 --> 01:00:10,110
enamored with baby Rodney that
even Jamie has relented and

1036
01:00:10,110 --> 01:00:12,350
allowed the unusual family to
stay.

1037
01:00:14,070 --> 01:00:17,350
I love that she's still doing
her little talk over and she's

1038
01:00:17,350 --> 01:00:20,070
coming to the house after
picking some flowers or

1039
01:00:20,070 --> 01:00:22,750
whatever.
She comes to the house and it's

1040
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:25,520
almost dark.
And the front door is open.

1041
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,640
I was like.
Here we go again.

1042
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,760
That that's what I was thinking.
Here we go again.

1043
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,720
Who is?
Here now.

1044
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,240
Like what's the problem?
What's the problem?

1045
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,640
Like they just said they several
weeks that you we actually

1046
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:40,440
giving her some time to mourn
the situation and now another

1047
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:45,600
situation is about to occur and
I didn't know what it was.

1048
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,600
I'm like good gosh, give him
some time.

1049
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,800
Now this is the time where I'll
be okay if we go to Roger,

1050
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,120
Brianna, let's see what they
doing.

1051
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,120
Like, do we really have to have
more, more drama with?

1052
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,520
Clinton, right.
Let's see what they doing.

1053
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,960
Let's see how the surgery went.
Okay, how they got some money,

1054
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,360
right.
So she where they live, What

1055
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,960
apartment are they living in?
I mean, did you get a house like

1056
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:15,850
what's going on?
Did Brianna put some money away

1057
01:01:15,850 --> 01:01:18,610
from her dad?
I mean, so let's go back to that

1058
01:01:18,610 --> 01:01:20,090
time.
I don't want to go back to this

1059
01:01:20,090 --> 01:01:21,290
right here.
And there's an issue.

1060
01:01:21,490 --> 01:01:24,330
Yeah, but we have to get to it.
We have to get to it.

1061
01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:28,170
She walks in the house.
We see a figure sitting in the

1062
01:01:28,170 --> 01:01:30,170
chair behind.
He likes the match.

1063
01:01:30,490 --> 01:01:32,290
And it's when to go fucking
Donner.

1064
01:01:33,010 --> 01:01:36,050
And I was like, you know what?
Roger should have just let him

1065
01:01:36,050 --> 01:01:37,850
escape.
Gave him a gym.

1066
01:01:37,850 --> 01:01:39,690
So.
That's not too.

1067
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:43,110
Like, it's it's one of those
things, those things.

1068
01:01:43,110 --> 01:01:45,910
And we talked about this at the
end of the last episode off

1069
01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:49,350
camera, where it's like, you're
damned if you do, you're damned

1070
01:01:49,350 --> 01:01:54,550
if you don't.
Like Jamie felt pity for Stephen

1071
01:01:54,550 --> 01:01:57,830
Bonnet and freed him.
And you know, Bonnet was like,

1072
01:01:57,830 --> 01:01:59,230
you'll never see me again, blah
blah blah.

1073
01:01:59,230 --> 01:02:02,390
And then what happens?
Bonnet realizes that Jamie and

1074
01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:05,310
Claire have gemstones.
They robbed them.

1075
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:12,430
He he takes Claire's rings then.
Brianna sees the ring.

1076
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:14,470
She tries to get it back from
him.

1077
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:17,830
He rapes her and goes through
this whole thing, all because

1078
01:02:17,830 --> 01:02:20,990
Jamie had compassion for this
one person.

1079
01:02:21,350 --> 01:02:25,110
So now Roger doesn't have
compassion for when to go down

1080
01:02:25,110 --> 01:02:29,630
her because when to go sat by
and you know, well, I won't say

1081
01:02:29,630 --> 01:02:33,070
a loud because again, he does
make a point line on ground and

1082
01:02:33,070 --> 01:02:35,190
his man would have killed me, I
get that.

1083
01:02:35,630 --> 01:02:39,550
Still, he was there, present in
the moment when Claire was being

1084
01:02:39,590 --> 01:02:44,430
sexually assaulted by multiple
people and then he wanted Roger

1085
01:02:44,430 --> 01:02:46,030
to help him.
Roger was like, no, I'm not

1086
01:02:46,030 --> 01:02:47,990
going to help you.
And now here he goes.

1087
01:02:48,190 --> 01:02:50,230
Now here he goes.
He doesn't escape.

1088
01:02:51,420 --> 01:02:54,620
And he's there because, of
course, he knows that Claire is

1089
01:02:54,620 --> 01:02:56,900
a traveler.
He knows Roger is a traveler.

1090
01:02:57,140 --> 01:03:00,220
So he's thinking, oh, you guys
probably have gemstones.

1091
01:03:00,260 --> 01:03:03,180
I just want to go back home.
And again, he keeps using this

1092
01:03:03,180 --> 01:03:04,820
excuse.
I just want to go home.

1093
01:03:05,020 --> 01:03:06,900
I just want to go home.
So you going to give me

1094
01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:09,060
gemstones or you going to tell
me where they are?

1095
01:03:09,180 --> 01:03:10,820
You need to tell me what I did
wrong.

1096
01:03:10,820 --> 01:03:13,580
Because the one time I did try
to go back, I ended up back

1097
01:03:13,580 --> 01:03:16,670
here.
But I was also drunk and blah

1098
01:03:16,670 --> 01:03:18,710
blah blah.
So Claire tells him you can't be

1099
01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:20,550
drunk.
This is what you do, this is how

1100
01:03:20,550 --> 01:03:23,990
you do it.
But we don't have any gemstones.

1101
01:03:25,230 --> 01:03:28,230
He doesn't believe her.
He has his men come in with

1102
01:03:28,270 --> 01:03:33,230
Jamie at gunpoint, and he sends
his man off to search the house.

1103
01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:37,230
So Jamie is trying to defuse the
situation with humor.

1104
01:03:37,350 --> 01:03:42,790
When he learned who he was.
Jamie come across that room.

1105
01:03:43,950 --> 01:03:47,310
Let me tell you, if that dude
who was holding him hadn't

1106
01:03:47,310 --> 01:03:49,590
grabbed him and then the other
two didn't come in with the

1107
01:03:49,590 --> 01:03:54,190
bugs, and that was a whole weird
situation because they come in,

1108
01:03:55,430 --> 01:04:00,110
he's got a word.
Arch and Medina, Mr. and Mrs.

1109
01:04:00,110 --> 01:04:01,550
Bug.
Right, I know, I said.

1110
01:04:01,550 --> 01:04:04,670
It was really weird.
I had to, like, actually rewind

1111
01:04:04,670 --> 01:04:08,070
that three times.
What the hell do they have and

1112
01:04:08,070 --> 01:04:11,970
what do they send to each other?
And I'm like, I see the gold and

1113
01:04:11,970 --> 01:04:13,730
he's like, where you get there
from, it's none of your

1114
01:04:13,730 --> 01:04:15,850
business.
And I because I watched it three

1115
01:04:15,850 --> 01:04:19,130
times, I'm like, well, oh shit,
what they get into.

1116
01:04:19,130 --> 01:04:22,530
Did you figure it out?
No, but I was like where do you

1117
01:04:22,530 --> 01:04:27,170
get to go from Okay?
So, so this is Okay.

1118
01:04:27,170 --> 01:04:30,890
We got another issue that we
won't have to take care of after

1119
01:04:30,890 --> 01:04:33,850
we take care of this.
Yes.

1120
01:04:33,850 --> 01:04:36,650
Robbing of the house.
This is an issue I was expecting

1121
01:04:36,650 --> 01:04:38,930
to come up.
I didn't know how and when.

1122
01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:44,820
Yeah, so the guys come in, they
have Mr. and Mrs. Bug, and

1123
01:04:44,820 --> 01:04:47,820
they're like, Oh yeah, we did
find something and they pull out

1124
01:04:47,820 --> 01:04:52,300
a bar of gold.
And then Jamie is asking in

1125
01:04:52,300 --> 01:04:55,580
Gallic at this point, he's
asking Arch Bug, where did where

1126
01:04:55,580 --> 01:04:57,540
did you get that go?
It's none of your business.

1127
01:04:57,860 --> 01:04:59,940
Jamie is like, it damn well is
my business.

1128
01:05:00,500 --> 01:05:04,260
So in the midst of all this,
when to go is like, cut that

1129
01:05:04,260 --> 01:05:07,450
shit out.
We we're not here for gold.

1130
01:05:07,450 --> 01:05:09,530
We need gemstones.
He doesn't care about the gold.

1131
01:05:10,690 --> 01:05:12,130
I'll talk about the gold in a
minute.

1132
01:05:12,410 --> 01:05:17,570
So anyway, he says his his goons
into Claire surgery to look to

1133
01:05:17,570 --> 01:05:21,570
see if she has gemstones there.
Now why she didn't tell him?

1134
01:05:21,770 --> 01:05:24,810
We don't have gemstones.
We literally just sent our

1135
01:05:24,810 --> 01:05:28,090
daughter and her family through.
Because my, my, no, because

1136
01:05:28,090 --> 01:05:30,610
Jamie said.
He gave it to Claire.

1137
01:05:31,550 --> 01:05:34,990
But, but again, he said no.
He said Claire hit them.

1138
01:05:35,190 --> 01:05:37,830
Claire could have said, well, I
gave them to my daughter and her

1139
01:05:37,830 --> 01:05:41,310
husband.
Yes, and they didn't and I'm

1140
01:05:41,310 --> 01:05:44,190
like, oh hell.
Right, right.

1141
01:05:44,590 --> 01:05:47,990
What's that smell?
Here we go, Pan.

1142
01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:51,270
They go through, they go through
the surgery, they unlock the

1143
01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:54,670
locked cabinet, they pull out
the bottle that says ether.

1144
01:05:54,670 --> 01:05:57,870
And I understand that the goons
probably aren't smart.

1145
01:05:57,870 --> 01:06:00,230
They probably don't even know
what the fuck ether is.

1146
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,480
They are smashing bottles on the
ground and of course they throw

1147
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:09,240
2 bottles of the ether down when
to go says what's that smell?

1148
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,840
And clears like it's ether.
So she, Jamie and the bugs they

1149
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,040
all cover their nose because
they know what this is about to

1150
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,560
be.
When and when to go's guys are

1151
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,520
in there talking about it's so
dark in here I can't see turn on

1152
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,500
the fucking light.
Even know what does Window go

1153
01:06:25,500 --> 01:06:27,740
do?
He takes the matches that he

1154
01:06:27,740 --> 01:06:30,820
found on Claire's table that
Brianna made and he lights the

1155
01:06:30,820 --> 01:06:33,100
match and Claire's like, no,
don't do that.

1156
01:06:33,780 --> 01:06:37,540
And then all of a sudden we see
a pan out view of the big house

1157
01:06:38,300 --> 01:06:47,500
and the house goes boom.
And then my first thought is,

1158
01:06:47,860 --> 01:06:51,580
this is the house fire.
So what's about to happen?

1159
01:06:52,570 --> 01:06:56,890
Yeah, it can't be the house fire
because we still have 14

1160
01:06:57,010 --> 01:07:00,650
episodes from this and you know,
they're not going to kill.

1161
01:07:00,970 --> 01:07:03,050
Clear And Jamie Well, no, I know
they're not going to be dead.

1162
01:07:03,050 --> 01:07:05,410
But I'm like, but this is the
house fire that must have been

1163
01:07:05,410 --> 01:07:07,210
in the paper.
So that was my first thought

1164
01:07:07,210 --> 01:07:10,530
like this is the house fire that
was in the paper because that

1165
01:07:10,530 --> 01:07:14,050
because we can't come back from
from that explosion.

1166
01:07:14,970 --> 01:07:18,010
I know they're not dead but I'm
just saying the explosion to

1167
01:07:18,010 --> 01:07:19,930
rebuild.
Figure out what's what's going

1168
01:07:19,930 --> 01:07:21,370
on.
Yes, because.

1169
01:07:22,990 --> 01:07:26,390
I was like they they just can't
catch a break like.

1170
01:07:27,030 --> 01:07:30,230
And and that is from two things
that wasn't meant to be in that

1171
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:32,950
time being put together.
Imagine Ether.

1172
01:07:34,670 --> 01:07:38,230
Yep.
And Clara, when to go, if you if

1173
01:07:38,270 --> 01:07:41,510
you think about it.
Yep, those, Yep, 4 things in the

1174
01:07:41,510 --> 01:07:42,350
room.
Yep.

1175
01:07:43,470 --> 01:07:47,070
So but anyway, I don't know did
before the episode.

1176
01:07:47,070 --> 01:07:50,110
Did you watch the previously on
Outlander?

1177
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:53,060
Did you watch that where they
showed the flashbacks?

1178
01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:57,220
So you remember the flashback
they showed about Jamie talking

1179
01:07:57,220 --> 01:08:03,100
about the gold that was supposed
to go to Bonnie Prince Charlie.

1180
01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:10,180
And yeah, so yeah, so apparently
the bugs have access to that

1181
01:08:10,180 --> 01:08:13,700
gold too, because yeah, they're
sitting on it.

1182
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:16,100
But my question is, how did they
get it?

1183
01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:19,979
Because we know that Jacosta had
some.

1184
01:08:20,790 --> 01:08:24,750
Because we saw her little
flashback story with her husband

1185
01:08:24,990 --> 01:08:27,670
taking some of the gold and he
ended up bringing it there and

1186
01:08:27,670 --> 01:08:30,029
that's how they built River Run
and all this other stuff.

1187
01:08:30,029 --> 01:08:36,390
It's like, so who was Mr. Bug
over in Scotland that he would

1188
01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:44,310
have access to that gold.
So I think that's going to open

1189
01:08:44,310 --> 01:08:49,229
up, that's going to open up an
interesting storyline that.

1190
01:08:49,970 --> 01:08:52,450
Could take a couple of episodes,
but the way that they're

1191
01:08:52,450 --> 01:08:56,050
wrapping up things in the store,
it may only take one episode.

1192
01:08:56,450 --> 01:09:01,770
I don't know.
But yeah, the boys got some

1193
01:09:01,770 --> 01:09:05,330
explaining to do.
Well, when to go is done.

1194
01:09:06,370 --> 01:09:09,090
I'm sorry.
Like I can see Jamie, Claire

1195
01:09:09,090 --> 01:09:11,090
surviving.
They will survive.

1196
01:09:11,370 --> 01:09:13,850
But you, you, you did the match,
so you're done.

1197
01:09:15,569 --> 01:09:16,810
And you were in the room where
the.

1198
01:09:16,850 --> 01:09:18,569
Ether was like.
So.

1199
01:09:18,990 --> 01:09:21,830
When to go.
And his people were all in that

1200
01:09:21,830 --> 01:09:25,069
room, so you already know.
Especially with as strong as

1201
01:09:25,069 --> 01:09:27,870
that ether is, I'm pretty sure
his men are knocked out by now.

1202
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:33,910
Claire, Jamie, and the Bugs were
close enough to the door that

1203
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:35,390
they probably could have gotten
out.

1204
01:09:35,390 --> 01:09:38,910
They may have been knocked away
from the house by the fire, but

1205
01:09:38,910 --> 01:09:40,350
yeah, they didn't.
They didn't die.

1206
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:43,350
They didn't die.
But it was cool to say, Oh my

1207
01:09:43,350 --> 01:09:44,950
goodness, this is the house
fire.

1208
01:09:45,630 --> 01:09:46,870
Yeah.
So.

1209
01:09:49,020 --> 01:09:53,660
So and then when they wrote that
and our perspective, even when

1210
01:09:53,660 --> 01:09:57,940
it said that Jamie and Claire
died, maybe we don't really know

1211
01:09:57,940 --> 01:10:02,340
that though because they could
assume they did and something,

1212
01:10:02,420 --> 01:10:05,340
you know, they went and traveled
somewhere else so and just like

1213
01:10:05,340 --> 01:10:07,260
oh, they must have died in the
fire.

1214
01:10:08,300 --> 01:10:12,340
However, it was just I like how
we made that connection and

1215
01:10:12,340 --> 01:10:17,460
we're to that point after
Brianna and Roger left.

1216
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:21,480
Because that was the reason too.
She came that she came back,

1217
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:27,560
Yeah, so.
But, but, you know, I think she

1218
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:32,080
also addressed that because when
she and Roger were talking about

1219
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:36,360
leaving, you know, she had told
Roger, I will go back with

1220
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:37,840
Mandy.
You stay here with Jim.

1221
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,440
I was like, now you.
Why?

1222
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,480
In hell, Roger.
From to let you do that.

1223
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,280
No.
What's his name?

1224
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,580
Right, so.
But she was.

1225
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:49,020
But you know what?
It does?

1226
01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:53,100
Because to her, she would think
she would go get the surgery and

1227
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:57,180
bring them back.
Yeah, but you don't even.

1228
01:10:58,460 --> 01:11:01,020
But it still makes sense.
They all need to go together.

1229
01:11:01,820 --> 01:11:05,140
And then once everything is
good, you can make that decision

1230
01:11:05,140 --> 01:11:07,260
if you want to travel back or
not.

1231
01:11:07,620 --> 01:11:11,060
Because here's the thing.
So even if you do go into the

1232
01:11:11,060 --> 01:11:15,140
future with your daughter, you
come back whenever it is that

1233
01:11:15,140 --> 01:11:17,020
you come back.
How are you going to get back

1234
01:11:17,020 --> 01:11:20,020
home?
Because chances are they're not

1235
01:11:20,020 --> 01:11:22,900
going to leave the boat there.
They have to be able to get

1236
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:26,220
back.
You are a woman traveling alone

1237
01:11:26,220 --> 01:11:33,020
with a child in the 1700s.
You tried that once before and

1238
01:11:33,020 --> 01:11:36,700
you you found some trouble.
We don't want to take that.

1239
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:38,820
No, you don't.
You either going to stay here

1240
01:11:38,820 --> 01:11:41,740
with Roger and Y'all going to
bury your baby or all of Y'all

1241
01:11:41,740 --> 01:11:44,300
are going it.
It's just one or the other.

1242
01:11:45,730 --> 01:11:48,010
There is no in between.
You can't separate your family

1243
01:11:48,010 --> 01:11:49,330
like that.
Not like that.

1244
01:11:49,330 --> 01:11:52,050
It's not like, oh, OK, I'm going
to another state for the

1245
01:11:52,050 --> 01:11:53,770
surgery.
No, you going to a different

1246
01:11:53,770 --> 01:11:55,370
time.
You going to a different

1247
01:11:55,370 --> 01:11:56,610
century.
Yeah.

1248
01:11:56,650 --> 01:11:57,610
It's not going to work.
Yeah.

1249
01:11:57,610 --> 01:11:58,970
You can't separate.
It's not going to work.

1250
01:11:59,210 --> 01:12:01,770
It's not going to work.
But I will say this too.

1251
01:12:02,050 --> 01:12:06,450
The other scenes that I really
liked in this episode was the

1252
01:12:06,450 --> 01:12:10,650
scene where Jamie is walking
around with Amanda, talking to

1253
01:12:10,650 --> 01:12:14,210
her, because I love seeing his
his scenes with the babies.

1254
01:12:14,860 --> 01:12:19,860
Because it's like you always
feel with Jamie's character that

1255
01:12:19,860 --> 01:12:25,780
he is so thankful to have that
family around him because he

1256
01:12:25,780 --> 01:12:33,100
grew up around so much family.
And for him to go through life

1257
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:37,780
thinking that he would never see
his wife or daughter again, to

1258
01:12:37,780 --> 01:12:40,660
the point where he married
someone he didn't really care

1259
01:12:40,660 --> 01:12:43,820
about, just to be able to take
care of her children.

1260
01:12:44,300 --> 01:12:48,580
To have a family of his own, you
know, for him to be able to meet

1261
01:12:48,580 --> 01:12:51,940
his daughter, that he, he and he
never thought that possible.

1262
01:12:52,820 --> 01:12:56,820
To have Roger Mack as a
Soninlaw, to get to sit there

1263
01:12:56,820 --> 01:13:00,340
and hold his grandbabies that he
never thought he would be

1264
01:13:00,340 --> 01:13:03,020
possible.
You get to see that joy on his

1265
01:13:03,020 --> 01:13:07,300
face every time he's around
those kids like this is my life.

1266
01:13:08,580 --> 01:13:12,340
And then you see what he looks
like when that's taken away from

1267
01:13:12,340 --> 01:13:15,050
him.
This episode was so sad.

1268
01:13:15,050 --> 01:13:18,530
It was so sweet in a lot of
different ways, right?

1269
01:13:18,810 --> 01:13:26,010
My favorite scene was Brianna
and Jamie with the fireflies, I

1270
01:13:26,010 --> 01:13:28,610
said.
Magic, magical moments, magical

1271
01:13:28,610 --> 01:13:32,090
moments like that.
It was funny listening to her

1272
01:13:32,090 --> 01:13:33,930
try to describe Mickey Mouse to
him, though.

1273
01:13:33,930 --> 01:13:36,610
I was like, why can't you just
say a person dressed in a

1274
01:13:36,610 --> 01:13:39,660
costume?
Like a mouse and right because

1275
01:13:39,660 --> 01:13:42,300
the way she found it from there.
Right the way, she said.

1276
01:13:42,300 --> 01:13:45,260
I think it.
That ain't how he looks, but OK.

1277
01:13:45,300 --> 01:13:46,780
Right.
Like that one makes.

1278
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:50,180
It a rat, right?
Yeah, rat.

1279
01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:52,180
And then what did?
What did he tell Jim?

1280
01:13:52,420 --> 01:13:56,220
He said if you should happen to
encounter a mouse named Michael,

1281
01:13:56,540 --> 01:13:59,300
tell him your grandfathers were
gone.

1282
01:14:02,140 --> 01:14:03,220
Oh.
Cute.

1283
01:14:03,940 --> 01:14:05,460
It was so.
Cute.

1284
01:14:06,020 --> 01:14:12,300
It was.
Going back to the intro, no, I

1285
01:14:12,300 --> 01:14:16,060
can't skip the song this time
this week or I did.

1286
01:14:16,060 --> 01:14:19,060
Fast forward.
It didn't allow you to it.

1287
01:14:19,580 --> 01:14:21,780
No, it didn't.
But I Fast forward to those

1288
01:14:21,780 --> 01:14:25,060
part.
I said, oh, this home footage of

1289
01:14:25,060 --> 01:14:28,940
Disneyland.
And then the last scene of the

1290
01:14:28,940 --> 01:14:32,860
home footage was Mickey Mouse.
But he wasn't looking so hot.

1291
01:14:34,010 --> 01:14:37,130
It looked a little creepy.
Yeah, he Mickey Mouse.

1292
01:14:37,130 --> 01:14:40,850
Looked a little bit different
back then in the but no, I yeah,

1293
01:14:40,850 --> 01:14:43,050
because I remember him back then
but I'm just saying.

1294
01:14:43,050 --> 01:14:45,650
And how that field was that he
was just by himself.

1295
01:14:45,650 --> 01:14:50,010
I'm like oh so magical moments
happen And then it comes to an

1296
01:14:50,090 --> 01:14:52,410
end because that right there
says it's time for us to go

1297
01:14:52,410 --> 01:14:55,490
home.
This is turned into another

1298
01:14:55,490 --> 01:15:00,290
movie because he was looking
look creepy.

1299
01:15:01,700 --> 01:15:04,540
Just the way that how the
footage was and then how the

1300
01:15:04,540 --> 01:15:09,380
song was in it was just a a tab
in on the not happy moments but

1301
01:15:09,420 --> 01:15:12,540
more of it's time to leave the
park.

1302
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:16,420
Yeah, I was laughing at that
intro though I said OK, they

1303
01:15:16,460 --> 01:15:20,020
must have heard all of us who
were talking about skipping the

1304
01:15:20,020 --> 01:15:21,700
intro.
They were like, Nope, which

1305
01:15:21,700 --> 01:15:23,580
y'all not going to do.
No.

1306
01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:27,020
Because yeah, I'm listening to
the song again and that.

1307
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:29,020
And you said no.
I don't.

1308
01:15:29,260 --> 01:15:30,660
I just don't like it.
I don't.

1309
01:15:31,630 --> 01:15:33,990
So I'm sorry, I don't like.
It.

1310
01:15:34,270 --> 01:15:35,590
I don't either.
It's a no.

1311
01:15:36,110 --> 01:15:37,590
Yeah.
So.

1312
01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:44,030
So now we have Jamie and Claire.
The big house is definitely

1313
01:15:44,030 --> 01:15:49,270
gone.
We got Brianna, Brianna and

1314
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:58,110
Roger back to the future with
the kids not knowing that.

1315
01:15:58,580 --> 01:16:00,620
Claire and Jamie's house just
blew up.

1316
01:16:00,620 --> 01:16:04,100
So I don't next episode is going
to be interesting because like

1317
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:06,700
you said, we know Jamie and
Claire survived.

1318
01:16:06,780 --> 01:16:09,820
Yeah, we know that.
But also, did you, did you watch

1319
01:16:09,820 --> 01:16:11,420
the previews for the next
episode?

1320
01:16:11,740 --> 01:16:12,500
Right.
So that's.

1321
01:16:12,500 --> 01:16:14,820
I know they still live and one
you.

1322
01:16:15,820 --> 01:16:18,140
Somebody died.
I don't think they would be

1323
01:16:18,140 --> 01:16:20,780
having a funeral like that for
when to go to Donner.

1324
01:16:20,780 --> 01:16:24,260
So I'm no so I'm hoping.
The Well, it's only it was only

1325
01:16:24,260 --> 01:16:27,310
four other people.
Right, so the process of

1326
01:16:27,310 --> 01:16:29,430
elimination.
One of the books had to be blown

1327
01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:31,550
up in the fire.
Maybe.

1328
01:16:31,950 --> 01:16:34,950
Well, then again, because if you
think about it, that means that

1329
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:37,390
if it wasn't one of the bugs, it
might have been one of the

1330
01:16:37,390 --> 01:16:40,110
twins, or might have been.
Yeah, somebody else that could

1331
01:16:40,110 --> 01:16:41,870
have been in the house.
And I'm sorry.

1332
01:16:41,870 --> 01:16:44,070
I was thinking, because now I
was like, where's Liz?

1333
01:16:44,110 --> 01:16:45,830
I mean, I know they have their
own place, but she could have

1334
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:47,390
been, oh, you know what I'm
saying?

1335
01:16:47,390 --> 01:16:49,950
Like, ran over there, I was
thinking.

1336
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:53,550
Yeah, because I know we're not
having no, no funeral for when

1337
01:16:53,550 --> 01:16:56,330
to go down her.
No, no.

1338
01:16:56,570 --> 01:16:59,450
So not at all.
Guess we got to wait till next

1339
01:16:59,450 --> 01:17:03,730
week to see and I know it's not
Ian because he still has some

1340
01:17:03,810 --> 01:17:08,970
stories to be told about him.
So and plus Ian, I don't Ian

1341
01:17:08,970 --> 01:17:12,730
doesn't stay in the big house.
I think Ian still stays in that

1342
01:17:12,730 --> 01:17:16,050
little makeshift house that they
have in the woods.

1343
01:17:16,570 --> 01:17:19,250
He does, but you know, he just
pops up sometimes when they're

1344
01:17:19,250 --> 01:17:22,970
in danger, so you just never
know that he has popped up, but.

1345
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,800
He needs to have a hat.
I'm sorry.

1346
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:32,120
I will fall out if he dies and
he doesn't have some type of

1347
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:37,080
peace, love, happiness.
Yeah.

1348
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:43,160
If some happen, if some happen
to me, I'm going to protest.

1349
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:49,720
Because out of everyone, give
him something that that's

1350
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:54,660
tangible, that loves him back.
And he has for a while.

1351
01:17:55,020 --> 01:17:58,020
Well, I've heard rumors that
that will happen to him this

1352
01:17:58,020 --> 01:18:02,100
season because of because of the
casting during this season.

1353
01:18:02,700 --> 01:18:05,300
Apparently one of the
characters, and I can't remember

1354
01:18:05,300 --> 01:18:07,580
her name because again, I'm not
that far in the story.

1355
01:18:07,860 --> 01:18:11,260
Apparently this is a person who
he does have a relationship with

1356
01:18:11,260 --> 01:18:13,620
and he does beat.
You know, he is happy.

1357
01:18:13,820 --> 01:18:16,140
I'm going to hope that that is
the case.

1358
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:21,000
Because I'm like you please give
me and his happy ever after.

1359
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:27,200
He deserves it, right?
Because that that story that was

1360
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,920
told and then I have to deal
with Malvel Christie on top.

1361
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,880
Of it I can't.
I can't.

1362
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,760
It's hard.
Family needs a happy ending.

1363
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,880
I mean, I know that, technically
speaking.

1364
01:18:39,370 --> 01:18:43,370
Ferguson, Marsley have theirs in
New Bern, but again I want to

1365
01:18:43,370 --> 01:18:45,610
see Ferguson.
Well, first of all, let's be

1366
01:18:46,370 --> 01:18:49,210
Jamie and Claire have their
happy ending.

1367
01:18:50,050 --> 01:18:57,010
No matter what happens, just
let's go back to just finding

1368
01:18:57,010 --> 01:19:02,090
that person, that one person
throughout time.

1369
01:19:03,050 --> 01:19:07,450
Leave, come back and find each
other again.

1370
01:19:08,130 --> 01:19:10,610
And all the obstacles that
they're, they are still

1371
01:19:10,610 --> 01:19:16,890
together, strong.
They have it so no matter what.

1372
01:19:16,890 --> 01:19:20,210
And they're older, okay.
So no matter what happens now,

1373
01:19:20,290 --> 01:19:24,690
they they have found their home
within each other.

1374
01:19:25,890 --> 01:19:27,490
They're good.
That that was the other.

1375
01:19:27,610 --> 01:19:29,970
Oh, that was the other line,
Jamie said to Claire.

1376
01:19:29,970 --> 01:19:34,410
When he gave her, you know, he
gave her the gemstone to see if

1377
01:19:34,410 --> 01:19:36,810
she wanted to go back, and she
actually threw the gemstone out

1378
01:19:36,850 --> 01:19:39,880
the window.
And she came back and she was

1379
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,520
like, I love you, he said.
You know, I'm not as strong as I

1380
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,360
used to be.
I can't, I can't be in a world

1381
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,320
without you.
I was like, oh, that's going to

1382
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,200
again.
Going back to what you said.

1383
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,440
They need to have a notebook
ending that.

1384
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:56,680
Just it just.
Needs to be.

1385
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,480
It's together.
That's what it needs to be

1386
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,960
because because I I can't
imagine.

1387
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,390
I don't know if I can imagine.
One without the other.

1388
01:20:09,150 --> 01:20:11,430
You can't.
And do you not understand?

1389
01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:15,950
It took, it even took Claire
some time to get her shit

1390
01:20:15,950 --> 01:20:18,670
together.
When she came back when she was

1391
01:20:18,670 --> 01:20:21,710
pregnant and even had the baby,
like she couldn't.

1392
01:20:22,110 --> 01:20:24,590
It was like I can't even
function.

1393
01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:27,670
And then she got herself
together and, you know, went to

1394
01:20:27,670 --> 01:20:32,550
school and stuff and and made it
and still getting some evidence

1395
01:20:32,550 --> 01:20:36,590
that that man is still alive,
she left.

1396
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:42,620
I mean, she left her kid.
Yep, Yep.

1397
01:20:44,740 --> 01:20:46,340
She was like, oh, you'll be
alright with him.

1398
01:20:46,340 --> 01:20:53,500
I'm going fine.
I mean, it was it was a time,

1399
01:20:55,060 --> 01:20:55,820
right?
Right.

1400
01:20:55,900 --> 01:20:59,180
And it was it was a time where
her and her and her and Brianna

1401
01:20:59,180 --> 01:21:00,940
relationship was strained
anyway.

1402
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,360
But it was because she was
keeping that secret from.

1403
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:09,720
Yeah, and she could.
Never be herself around Bree,

1404
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:15,360
So, yeah.
And and Bree was a daddy's girl

1405
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,880
anyway, so she just saw her mom
as an issue.

1406
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,440
So that, you know, that's just
that just going to happen

1407
01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:22,800
sometimes.
But I like how when she did

1408
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:27,960
finally understand her mom and
they built a close relationship

1409
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:29,840
now.
But yeah, they have had their

1410
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,030
happiest.
What happiest place on earth

1411
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:35,550
they've been together.
Yeah.

1412
01:21:36,230 --> 01:21:40,870
Even with their child and able
to see their grandkids.

1413
01:21:43,070 --> 01:21:45,590
So yeah.
So they need them to have a

1414
01:21:45,590 --> 01:21:48,670
second happiest place where all
of them can be together again

1415
01:21:49,150 --> 01:21:51,640
like.
Brianna and Roger and the kids

1416
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:52,720
come back.
I need to.

1417
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,800
I'm gonna keep saying, look, I'm
gonna bring my microphone

1418
01:21:55,800 --> 01:22:00,320
closer, so I need to see Fergus
and Marsaly this season.

1419
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,560
I know, I agree.
On that, I'm saying this very

1420
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:08,360
calmly, but I'm like like
jumping on the inside.

1421
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,720
Give me my goddamn Fergus and
Marsaly.

1422
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,560
Right.
Like we we killed off these

1423
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:15,880
other characters.
Can they come back?

1424
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,840
Can they come back?
Can they come back now?

1425
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,890
Let me see them happy.
You know, can can they come

1426
01:22:21,890 --> 01:22:23,810
back?
Yes, because I think we still

1427
01:22:23,810 --> 01:22:25,970
got what, one or two more
children that Marsley is

1428
01:22:25,970 --> 01:22:33,410
supposed to.
I want to see all of this.

1429
01:22:33,690 --> 01:22:35,890
I miss the Spitfire that is
Marsley.

1430
01:22:35,890 --> 01:22:38,250
I miss the gentleness that is
Fergus.

1431
01:22:38,650 --> 01:22:43,610
I I need them back on my screen.
So anyway, that's that's all I'm

1432
01:22:43,610 --> 01:22:48,670
going to say about that for now.
But I'll probably keep harping

1433
01:22:48,670 --> 01:22:50,430
on it until they finally show up
on my screen.

1434
01:22:50,430 --> 01:22:51,750
I'm just going to warn you right
now.

1435
01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:55,470
So anyway, do you have any final
thoughts on this episode?

1436
01:22:55,510 --> 01:22:57,510
No, not at all.
It's a great episode.

1437
01:22:58,670 --> 01:23:01,110
And goodbye, Alan Christie.
And when to go.

1438
01:23:01,110 --> 01:23:05,190
Donna, we do not miss you.
I mean we we couldn't ties now

1439
01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:08,430
like.
Snip, snip, motherfucker, snip

1440
01:23:08,430 --> 01:23:11,730
snip.
And on that note, that is it for

1441
01:23:11,730 --> 01:23:13,890
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1442
01:23:13,890 --> 01:23:17,570
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1443
01:23:17,570 --> 01:23:19,770
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1444
01:23:20,010 --> 01:23:23,210
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1445
01:23:23,210 --> 01:23:26,650
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1446
01:23:26,650 --> 01:23:29,210
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1447
01:23:29,450 --> 01:23:31,010
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1448
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