Aug. 6, 2023

Outlander S7E4 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #252

#outlander Claire gets a visit from a ghost from her past. Jamie's plans to sail for Scotland are put on hold when he gets conscripted to report to Fort Ticonderoga to lead the militia. William Ransom gets sent on a secret mission, but is delayed when an accident leaves him strander in the swamp. Ian's mission to treat with the Indians gets detoured when he comes across an injured William. In the 1980s, Roger and Brianna work on Lallybroch, while trying to adjust to their new circumstances.

 

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Michelle and we are
discussing Outlander episode 4

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of season 7A Most Uncomfortable
Woman.

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And let's go ahead and talk
about that most uncomfortable

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woman, because I think that was
the funniest part of the whole

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episode.
Claire and Jamie are in town,

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she has gone to get supplies and
someone bumps into her and she

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was like, excuse me, and it's
Tom Christie.

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She's looking at him with
surprise because she thinks he's

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already dead and he's looking at
her with surprise and he plants

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a huge kiss on her face.
And girl, I was like, I can't

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wait to hear what machine.
But, and it was so it was it was

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just.
It was hilarious to me because

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she did a great job acting that
out because the look on her

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face, her facial expressions had
me rolling.

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Oh my God, it was so funny
because I was kind of looking

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the same same way too, because
it was like he just.

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Planted a kiss on her and we had
just talked about before about

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him not giving her a hug, you
know when he risked his life and

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for her.
But I was like, man, he was

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confused because I was like,
what the heck?

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And then when he talks about the
fact that he thought that she

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was.
Dead because he had been told of

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the house fire, so it was.
So he actually had put the the

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obituary in the paper once he
found out.

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So that kind of narrows down.
At least that tells us what year

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that obituary was written.
Because he found out after the

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fire, months after the fire.
Because, you know, when we last

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saw Tom Christie, he had
surrendered himself confessing

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to his daughter's murder, which
we now know he didn't commit.

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But he didn't know that at the
time he confessed because he

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wanted to save Claire, because
he was in love with her.

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So we're expecting that he's
going to be, you know, hung,

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executed, whatever for murder.
Turns out because he's an

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educated man and he was able to
write, the governor started

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using him as a secretary.
And then because of everything

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that's going on, he ended up
being free let go.

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And that's how he came to be
walking around.

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But it was so funny because for
him to be able to express that

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and then it's like he really was
looking like, Okay, yes, I just

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did this and I have no regrets
at all.

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He was like, also, your husband
is alive too.

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Oh Okay.
And he's just still sitting

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there, just looking at her like
she's here.

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You're right, he just wasn't
excited that she was alive.

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But it was.
At first.

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I also thought okay.
Is this a dream?

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It's clear having a dream.
But then when I realized it was

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real, I'm like this being really
planted that big one on her.

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And she's still looking like she
was.

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Like, he's lucky Jamie didn't
come out of somewhere and see

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that.
But it's playing in the

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background right now.
Her face, she's just looking

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like, what the hell just
happened?

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He was like, oh, I beg your
pardon, but he still looked like

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I don't regret it at all.
Like, this is a man who was in

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love with a woman who was
clearly in love with another

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man.
He probably thought he'd never

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get the opportunity to kiss her.
So now that he has, he's

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probably like okay.
You know what?

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I don't regret that at all.
Yes, I'm happy you're alive, but

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I don't regret that at all.
But you know, I always, I always

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wondered how they were going to
do that, especially with the way

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that they they kind of sort of
tied off his story couple of

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episodes ago.
But remember I was saying that

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there was something she had said
in an episode, and I think it

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was during her voice over with,
she said it seemed like Tom

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Christie was dead or something
like that.

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And I was like, hmm, something
tells me they're going to bring

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him back.
I don't think he's not reading

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them out yet, so I'm glad
because again, we talked about a

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few episodes ago with the start
of the 7th season, how it looked

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like they are actually tying off
some of these storylines and not

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letting them stay open, not
letting them linger.

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So I'm glad that he was able to
come back and she and him were

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able to have an actual
conversation and he was able to

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confess how he felt to her, like
not in in the moment now,

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because there's no danger.
So you can actually be very

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frank about your feelings, but
you can put it all out there.

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She can put what she has to say
out there.

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And you have closure for both,
you know, for both characters.

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And then he's now up, he's gone.
And now I think we're finished

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with seeing him because I don't
think bookwise I don't recall

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him playing another, you know,
any other part in their story.

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But of course, I've only gotten
to a certain point.

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But.
I don't think, I don't recall

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hearing him being involved in
anything.

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So I think now we are finally
done with the Christie story.

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And even though the story for
out, Allen and Malva didn't end

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in a favorable way for either of
them, I'm glad that at least for

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Tom.
He has some kind of peace now, I

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feel like, you know.
Yes, yes.

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I'm.
I don't know why, why I'm saying

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this when I wanted that man to
fall off a horse and die.

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OK, So I am glad that he is
alive and hopefully he can make

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a few changes about his judgment
of other people.

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However, he was going to
sacrifice himself knowing that

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he didn't commit the crime, but
knowing that Claire didn't

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commit the crime so.
He gets a pass and I'm glad he's

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not going to have to die for.
And he got him, He got his one

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kiss.
That's going to, you know, take

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him to his grade, take him
through everything.

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Yes, it's going to sustain.
Him.

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I mean, he just looks so light.
Sitting at that table with her,

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He's just seems so light and you
know, happy, right?

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But here's the thing.
So this was the thing that was

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interesting to me about what he
told her when they discussed the

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fire and everything.
So he says someone from Fraser's

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Ridge gave him the news of the
fire.

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I'm like, so I realized everyone
from Fraser's Ridge didn't come

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to the big house to help with
the, you know, help put out

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fire.
But it makes no sense that

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someone would give him the news
and make him think that Claire

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and Jamie are dead when they
clearly wasn't dead.

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You know, like literally they
sat there and tried to put the

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fire out.
They were there.

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It it had to be someone who
wasn't there that heard about

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the fire and just assumed that
they were dead.

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But you would think if even if
that's the case, that fire would

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have been a top a topic of
gossip.

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So you would think that somebody
else in phrases Ridge if he

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would have said, oh you you
know, you know Mr. Fraser, Miss

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Miss Fraser are died you know
are dead and somebody else would

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be like, no they're not dead
because I mean they had a whole

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funeral for Mrs. Bug where they
both were there, she sang, the

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profession is professional.
So it's like, why would someone

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say?
Or maybe that was just what he

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interpreted once they said, oh,
it was a big fire the house.

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Burnt and he didn't ask any
questions.

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And then the person wasn't
giving any extra details about

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it because it could be someone
who heard about the fire, but

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who's from Fraser Ridge, who
then told him and didn't give

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him any details and he just
assumed that they were dead.

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Yeah, that.
Because other than that, it

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doesn't make sense.
Because he's not a talkative

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man.
So he's not going to get into

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the meat of things and say,
well, who was there and what

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happened and the big house
burned down And then for him to

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place an obituary, he could have
placed that obituary anywhere.

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And if he didn't go back to
Fraser's Ridge, which he said he

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did not do, you know, he.
I guess that would be the the

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thing for him.
If he had gone back to Fraser's

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Ridge, someone would have told
him that Jamie and Claire were a

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lot.
You know, Lizzie could have told

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him, one of the twins could have
told him, you know, somebody

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would would have been there to
be like, I don't know, they're

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they're okay.
But he didn't go back to the

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Ridge because his family is not
there.

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You know, I doubt that she told
him about Alan and what he

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confessed, because then she
would have to like answer where

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he is.
So I think she probably just.

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Let no.
And then you you do you really

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want to tell a father what the
son did even done to even though

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it's not your daughter?
But do you really want to to get

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to his sister?
No.

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No, that's not a conversation I
would want to have.

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And especially when this man is
sitting across from you.

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Happy, right?
Yeah.

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Just let him, let him have his
happiness and let him go

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wherever it is he's going to go
now because he's obviously not

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going back to Fraser's Ridge
now.

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Like, I don't think because.
Because you know that he knows

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that Claire is going to tell
Jamie about what happened.

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And even though he did it spur
of the moment, not meaning any

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disrespect.
I don't think he will go back to

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the Ridge just because when and
if Jamie and Claire ever go

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back, he wouldn't want to have
to look at Jamie in the face.

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And The thing is, Jamie just
going to look at them, look at

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him with sympathy, because
that's how he feels.

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Even when she said, you know,
did you tell him how I felt?

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You know, about your what night
he's like, yeah, but he

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understands how you know, about
loving me so.

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And then he thought it was
funny.

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See, because he's secure.
Secure in this relationship.

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You can tell because he will
make it, You know, making jokes

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on her.
But then she wouldn't ask the

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question, Did you like it?
Well, honey, did you like it or

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not?
Because you you won't answer my

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question.
No, okay.

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Because if not, I will have to
feel some type of way about it.

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But, but, you know, you kind of
have to wonder because after

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they're having that
conversation, that's when she

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and Jamie finally get down to
the nittygritty.

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And I was laughing the whole
time I was watching this scene

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because when we had the
conversation in the last episode

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and you were talking about the
lack of intimate, like physical,

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intimate between them, I had to
kind of like I had to fumble

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around for an answer because I
couldn't tell you that was

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coming up because you hadn't
seen the episode yet.

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So I was like, well, you know,
with Jamie and and Claire, we

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don't really need to see the
physical intimacy to know how

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close they are.
And I was like but we get it all

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in the next.
Yes, we did.

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Cuz is this where?
Yeah, cuz you know, he was

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feeling some type of like ooh
another man want my wife.

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Is this where he start talking
about all the the things that

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she has done to him?
Yes, I think, I think this is.

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Yeah, yeah.
Because it was one of the, yeah,

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it was one of those like.
Yeah, you had a knife to me one

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time.
Yes, Yes.

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So when when he's saying all of
that, I was just like, yeah,

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there, there's no, there's no
dampening of the physical

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attraction there between them.
But I love their scenes because

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you have some of their intimacy
scenes where they are so

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serious.
And then you have the ones like

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these that are so silly but
still so serious.

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I was like, yeah, OK, well, we
do get to see that they can

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still enjoy those types of
things at their age.

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Oh, and I did look it up.
So technically speaking, Claire

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is 61 at this time because when
she first went back to 19,

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excuse me, 1743, she was 27
years old.

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So.
If you do math around this time,

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depending on what year this is,
I think this is this should be

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around I think 77.
She should be 61.

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So we do get to see at 61 and
Jamie that will make Jamie 57.

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Thank you.
Still have a little fun.

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Right.
And then he he reminded us when

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the lady has said she'll come
into her full power with when

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she has a hair full of white
hair.

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So he's like, what's to come?
Yes, this is the scene when he

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talked about you clawing me.
You had a knife to me.

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I'm like, you know what?
I love it.

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Y'all like, y'all like that that
that that rough.

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Stuff right?
You stab me once, but oh, when

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he was talking about you stabbed
me in the butt with one of your

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what was this syringe?
She was like what you deserved.

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But I you know it's it's nice to
see them have some

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lightheartedness.
Yeah, it is, that's what.

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Really.
Yeah.

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Because this episode is not
necessarily, I I won't say it's

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a rough episode, but, you know,
they're in the process of trying

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to get to Scotland.
They stop into a town to pick up

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supplies and they see Mr. I
think it's his, His name is

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Hartnett from the Sons of
Liberty.

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And he sees Jamie and you know,
he starts talking to Jamie

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about, oh, are you here to join
the cause?

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And Jamie is like, no, my wife
and I have some personal

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business to attend in Scotland.
I do plan on joining the war

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effort, you know, once I come
back.

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But we have to do that.
Let's do basically forces Jamie

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to sign up to lead militia for
this war.

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Talking about, Oh well, I think
your personal business in

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Scotland can wait.
Who asked you for an emergency?

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It's already bad enough that by
boat it's going to take them

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months to get to Scotland.
You got the nerve to say, oh,

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your personal business can wait.
How do you know?

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Why?
You don't know what I'm doing,

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girl.
I was so mad.

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And then like Jamie said, he was
like, I saved your life.

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You saved my life.
So I can fight another day.

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Well, today is that day.
Today is that day for you.

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So you can fight another day,
say, about wanting to.

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Fight why?
I'm going back home.

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I was so mad when they I was
like, you know what I said?

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Y'all going to learn at some
point y'all are going to stop

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trying to force Jamie Fraser to
do shit because one of these

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days is going to bite you in the
ass.

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Because now he knows you don't
have no loyalty to him.

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You want him because you know
who he is.

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You know he can command people.
You know, he's one of those men

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that can get people to come on
his side and to fight.

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When you're using him for that
purpose, which, yeah, y'all

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going to war, you need people.
I understand that.

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But even to the point where
you're like, almost blackmailing

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him.
Oh okay.

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Well, if you're not going to do
this, I can conscript somebody

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else to come in your place.
So who's going to come in your

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place?
You.

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I was so mad.
I was like, I want to leave

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that.
Yeah.

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I was too, because I'm like, oh,
here we go.

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So he not going home.
He is not going home.

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Oh no.
Even though at the end I was

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like, well, I see possibilities
for Ian, but we'll talk about

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that in a minute.
So, but yeah, I was like, OK,

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here we go back into the war
again, right?

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And then not only just him, but
of course Claire is like, OK,

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well.
She ain't going nowhere.

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Yeah, Y'all are going to need
doctors.

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So I'll join you.
And then Ian is like, yeah, so

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I'm going to join too.
And Jamie was like, no, I

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promise your mother, I was going
to bring you home.

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You need to go home.
And Ian is like this.

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I love this land.
I want to fight for it.

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Because if you think about it,
Ian has probably spent just as

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much time in the Americas.
Yes, he has in Scotland.

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I don't remember exactly at this
point how many years it's been,

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but let's see, I would assume
Jeremiah is at this point.

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He's probably like 8-9 maybe
because Mandy looks like she

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could be about four ish.
Was that they?

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They were talking about her
going to school, so she's got to

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be about 5.
Maybe so.

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Yeah.
Even is probably been in the

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Americas for almost as long as
he was in Scotland.

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And you gotta remember he has
emotional tide to the place.

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So you know his first wife, you
know, that didn't work out.

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His child is buried there.
Buried here, so you know, right?

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He's a part of the land, so for
him this is home too.

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And he's not going to leave his
aunt and uncle.

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He's not going to leave Jamie.
Like him and Jamie are bound for

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life.
And I, you know, I love, I love

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the part in this episode where,
you know, at the beginning of

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the episode we start out with
Roger and Brianna at Lallybrock.

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They've been there for two years
now and they've been renovating

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it.
And when they're talking to the

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contractor, the contractor is
like, I'm, I'm glad you guys are

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trying to keep the original
this, that and the other.

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He was like, but Are you sure
you're not going to let me patch

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that slash at the top of the
stairs?

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You know, because it looks
unsightly and it's the slash

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where the British soldiers came
through the house the day that

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Ian was born, looking for who
You remember, Fergus shot off

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the gun.
So they were looking for the gun

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and they were going through the
house and they were just being

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assholes because they are.
And they slashed that portrait

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up there.
I was like, that's a cute little

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throwback, because that was when
Ian was born.

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Jamie had him in his arms in
that bedroom across the way,

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trying to make sure that the
British didn't find him because

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he was.
The Dunbonne at the time, and he

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was wanted.
So I was like, I like the way

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that they kind of tired Jamie
and Ian's past to Brianna and

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Rogers, present or future,
however you want to look at.

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I like the fact that you have
those little ties that that bind

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them, even though Brianna and
Roger are completely in.

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Different time.
But I love it too, because it's

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like everything that happens,
I'm like, how does it relate?

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So just like that little, you
know, in the opening credits,

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you know, they always show
scenes from episodes.

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They showed the thing about the
desk, you know, where somebody

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was pulling the covers off the
desk.

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So I was like, OK, So what desk
is that?

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I'm trying to remember if there
was a desk that was in the first

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season or in maybe, let's see,
not the first scene.

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Yeah, yeah, Jamie did go back to
Scotland.

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Was that the first season or no,
wait, no, it was.

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So I was trying to figure out, I
was like, OK, so this desk is

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going to be important at some
point, but I like again seeing

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how that, how that's going to
tie together because even though

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they have the chest from Jamie
and Claire.

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We haven't really seen them mess
with it.

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We definitely didn't see them
mess with this episode.

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No, just the he just had the
mud.

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That's all he had.
And he was like, rubbing it and

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was like, yeah, why is this
coming out?

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He was like, oh wait, this is
good.

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Gold.
Yes.

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And then here we go again.
I knew you was about to say that

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when they did that in the
episode when he was talking

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about the gold and he showed it
to Brianna.

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And she was like, or he was
like, Do you think we should ask

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Jeremiah?
And again I said go ask your

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child.
He's getting too old for this.

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I know.
Because my time, he's 16.

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You'll be like, I don't even
know what you're talking about

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anymore.
I can't even find it for you.

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I kind of feel like Jimmy, even
though he's living in this time

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now, I feel like he's still
holding on to, like, the

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memories of.
His and he is.

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I don't.
I don't think it all, but still

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ask him now because he could, he
could show you a little bit

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better when y'all go where the
gold is.

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This is true because yes,
because you're in the they're in

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the 1980s now there.
So of course things will have

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changed because even when they,
when they came through the

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stones at Ocracoke, you know,
Ocracoke and the past had all of

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the trees, it was a full river.
And then when they came through

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the stones and they were
walking, the river had all but

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dried up.
So we don't know what else.

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What other changes have happened
in that part of North Carolina

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been stuff torn down,
construction.

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I know there's not too much
you're going to do to get rid of

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a cave.
But it's not much, and it

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depends on what area is if it's
a hike.

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They'll be okay, but there's a
subdivision somewhere around

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there or some, you know, cabins,
you know, like how we go to the

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cabins.
But that's it.

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Yeah, but it's.
But the landscape around it is

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going to change.
So it should be different for

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him.
He won't know like.

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He won't know Like, Oh my
goodness, this is so.

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Ask the child.
Don't think about it.

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When I saw it, I said, oh,
Michelle's going to be like,

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yes, ask him, Yes, I'm thinking,
oh, this is where they going to

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call him in.
You're worried about some

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biscuits missing?
No.

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Let's find out about this gold
Okay.

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And so that's the other thing,
because Jimmy is talking about

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this knucklevee and he says that
they've been seeing someone or

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something, and this thing
threatened to hurt Mandy if he

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said anything about it.
And I was like, so in the books

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when I was reading, I was up to
the part about the knucklevee.

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And that's what I was talking to
you about when I said there's

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something going on with Jimmy
and Mandy keep coming across

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like a spirit or a person there.
But I never found out who or

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what that thing was.
I didn't get that far.

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So now we're at a point in the
show where I'm complete.

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Like I have no idea what's going
on completely.

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So I'm here, yeah.
I I don't, I'm, I don't know if

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it's a spirit or a person.
I'm feeling like if he eating a

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biscuits or she eating a
biscuits, it has to be a yeah,

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that'd be a physical being, but
I'm like.

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Because the Spirit is not going
to want to eat to crisp and

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biscuits with honey.
But it does call the question

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who, Yeah, like who?
Like, is this somebody who has

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ties to Jamie's family, or is it
somebody who has ties to Roger?

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Could it be a, could it be
another traveler who knows about

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them?
And it's like, I don't.

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I don't.
Know it's like I'm not wanted to

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be one of those three things,
though.

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I don't want it to be like a
complete stranger that has no

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point.
No, I wanted it to be some

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someone connected to the family.
It has to be.

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It will be real.
I'll take a traveler.

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I'll take a relative.
See, I thought at first I was

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like, maybe it could be like one
of them traveling through

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through time or whatever.
You know, like, you know how you

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see sometimes you'll see
somebody seeing a version of

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themselves.
But even if it was, let's say,

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Roger traveling back from some
other time or whatever, I don't

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think that he would threaten
the.

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No, he wouldn't have.
Not him.

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No.
So I definitely don't think it

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would be Bree or Claire,
because.

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But you know what?
Roger would do it if he's

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thinking about.
See this is where other time

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travel movies.
Played in my head about the

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paradox and you don't want the
paradox to happen.

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So the only way for the kids not
to say daddy is you eating the

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biscuits is the threatening and
say don't say anything about me

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because but.
I don't.

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But it's not.
It's not Roger.

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It's not Roger.
He wouldn't say I'll hurt Mandy.

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If you say something, he
wouldn't do that.

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And then like, like you said,
Jim would recognize if it was

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his father, right?
That's what I'm saying.

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So it it, it can't be the
immediate family.

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So it has to be like a relative
because at this point and you

440
00:27:14,450 --> 00:27:18,210
will be able to help me.
So where is Jamie sister's kids

441
00:27:18,530 --> 00:27:21,330
besides Ian?
Like, where's their great

442
00:27:21,330 --> 00:27:23,810
grandkids?
Like, where are the rest of the

443
00:27:23,810 --> 00:27:26,010
family?
Are they spread out?

444
00:27:26,010 --> 00:27:28,530
I mean, I don't know.
Do they talk about in the books

445
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,040
at all?
Not that I know I haven't

446
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,880
gotten.
That like, where where they are,

447
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,120
Like, are they in America or
moved?

448
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:46,040
Yeah, because you got to think
like, well, so I remember back

449
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:54,320
in season two or three had to be
two.

450
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,280
It was before.
It was before Jamie sent Claire

451
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,340
back.
He signed the deed.

452
00:28:03,140 --> 00:28:10,340
Matter of fact, was it Ian that
he signed the deed over to you

453
00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:14,060
Remember, right before, right
before the Battle of Culloden,

454
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:18,300
Jamie and Claire went to sign
over the deed of Lallybrock.

455
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:22,780
That way, when he died,
Lallybrock would stay safe.

456
00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:26,450
Or I think it was before.
He did.

457
00:28:26,450 --> 00:28:31,850
I remember it.
But who I think it was in, I'm

458
00:28:31,850 --> 00:28:37,850
thinking.
So if that was the case, Ian's

459
00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:42,330
children, if they did go back to
Scotland, if he had children, we

460
00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:44,450
don't know what's going on.
We do know that there's a little

461
00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:48,310
flirtation with him and Miss
Hunter, but is that enough to

462
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:51,470
result in a marriage?
And if so, if Ian decided to go

463
00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:53,750
back to Scotland, would she have
gone with him?

464
00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:55,750
I have no idea about these,
right?

465
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:58,670
We have no idea.
So that's just that's the hard

466
00:28:58,670 --> 00:29:01,470
part.
So I I would, I would probably

467
00:29:01,470 --> 00:29:06,470
say it's safe to say that maybe
just throughout the generations,

468
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:11,110
Jamie's family scattered.
Just kind of scattered and I

469
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:15,270
hate that.
Just, I guess just kind of got

470
00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:18,110
left by the wayside until Roger
and Rihanna.

471
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:24,630
Got it for it.
But I I don't know.

472
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:26,870
You know, at first I thought I
was like okay, maybe it's when

473
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:30,150
to go down or coming back like,
but I was like, no, he wouldn't

474
00:29:30,150 --> 00:29:34,870
have known about Lally Brock.
Because it has to be, right.

475
00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:38,190
I don't know who it could be to
sit there.

476
00:29:38,190 --> 00:29:41,990
And obviously he's been coming
more than once for, you know,

477
00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:46,470
Jimmy to mention it.
This is not just a one time

478
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:51,710
thing like, oh, the knuckle, the
knuckle of V you know, we saw

479
00:29:51,710 --> 00:29:53,630
one one time.
I don't think.

480
00:29:53,670 --> 00:29:56,790
I think it's a recurring thing,
or at least it was in the books

481
00:29:56,790 --> 00:30:00,350
where it was somebody who was
coming regularly.

482
00:30:00,350 --> 00:30:07,550
But I think Roger and Brianna
thought that Jim was just kind

483
00:30:07,550 --> 00:30:10,830
of making it up at first,
because of course he missed

484
00:30:10,990 --> 00:30:13,970
everything.
And he couldn't talk about, you

485
00:30:13,970 --> 00:30:19,370
know, granddad.
Yeah, so, so, I don't know, but

486
00:30:19,370 --> 00:30:24,810
it's like I'm trying to
speculate and just from what we

487
00:30:24,810 --> 00:30:29,290
know about time travel and the
people that we know, I feel like

488
00:30:29,330 --> 00:30:31,450
I was like okay.
So can't be clear.

489
00:30:31,450 --> 00:30:33,290
It's not Brianna, it's not
Roger.

490
00:30:33,970 --> 00:30:39,690
Those three?
Definitely not aside from Galas

491
00:30:39,690 --> 00:30:43,370
Duncan.
I mean, it could be one of her

492
00:30:43,450 --> 00:30:47,450
other descendants, because Roger
is a descendant of hers.

493
00:30:48,370 --> 00:30:53,890
So you know, but I I don't know.
What if it's or or it could be

494
00:30:53,890 --> 00:30:59,290
Roger's dad.
Oh, that's a good theory.

495
00:31:00,970 --> 00:31:03,290
Could be, it could be.
I still don't.

496
00:31:03,490 --> 00:31:05,770
Because you said that he was.
He's missing.

497
00:31:06,770 --> 00:31:09,730
But we're figuring out what?
Did they actually say where he

498
00:31:09,730 --> 00:31:14,230
is?
In the books, like is he in the

499
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:18,830
stones or is he missing?
Like I think far as Roger knows,

500
00:31:18,830 --> 00:31:22,830
his father died, but I don't
think I don't.

501
00:31:23,030 --> 00:31:26,270
I don't recall the details on
that, like whether or not they

502
00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:32,490
ever found him or whether he was
trapped in the stones.

503
00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:35,410
I do remember that there.
Was I hear a lot about Trapped

504
00:31:35,410 --> 00:31:37,650
in the stones.
So I'm like, well, maybe he's

505
00:31:37,770 --> 00:31:39,930
out of the stones.
Could be.

506
00:31:40,170 --> 00:31:42,930
I still don't know if I feel
like he would say I will hurt

507
00:31:42,930 --> 00:31:45,090
your sister.
I will hurt her if you say

508
00:31:45,130 --> 00:31:48,570
anything about me, especially if
he's figuring out that this is

509
00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:52,410
his family.
But again, the other thing is if

510
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:57,730
it's Rogers father, unless he
followed them from the Wakefield

511
00:31:57,730 --> 00:32:01,640
residence to Lally Brock, I
don't see why he would be there

512
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,280
at Lallybrock because he
wouldn't know of Rogers

513
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,520
connection to.
Lally, no.

514
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,080
But he could have followed, you
know what I'm saying?

515
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,800
He could have followed them,
yeah.

516
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,560
And that's another thing too.
I was like, how far is the

517
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,200
Wakefield residence from
Lallybrock?

518
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,320
Because for them to be staying
in a caravan in front of

519
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,200
Lallybrock for two years while
it's being renovated, I was

520
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,200
like, look, we can go stay at
the.

521
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,880
I think it's.
I think it's far.

522
00:32:30,790 --> 00:32:35,990
Yeah, it was like a day trip.
I think it's far, Yeah, yeah, I

523
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:37,630
know that.
But the caravan look nice.

524
00:32:37,670 --> 00:32:39,430
I mean, they got a decoration on
the outside.

525
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:42,750
So I'm like, OK, so it's taking
some time to really make years

526
00:32:42,790 --> 00:32:47,750
though you're in in that little
thing with little kids, first of

527
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:49,150
all.
But land?

528
00:32:49,150 --> 00:32:52,590
Look at the land.
Once we go outside, it's like

529
00:32:52,590 --> 00:32:55,670
the people who live in RV's.
We just going to go to sleep in

530
00:32:55,670 --> 00:33:01,600
there and when it rains and but
you are a young married couple

531
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,120
there's like how do you find
private.

532
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:11,880
Time you go to the house and lay
a blanket down when the kids are

533
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,000
sleeping.
They've been, they were out,

534
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,840
they've been outside a lot of
times and in that house, in the

535
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:24,440
one room that's renovated.
The first room was the kitchen,

536
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,520
so they probably not all over
that kitchen.

537
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,560
Look his office.
Look good.

538
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,600
Stay in that office, too, on the
desk.

539
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,440
That office looks good.
Right in the chair, though, to

540
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,160
think about this is supposed to
be Lolly Brock.

541
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,880
And the sea is so, you know, for
those times modernized.

542
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,080
It's just it's really weird
because I'm sitting there trying

543
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:55,730
to imagine, like, you remember
seeing Lally Brock earlier on

544
00:33:55,930 --> 00:33:58,330
and I was just like, OK, so
where are where were those

545
00:33:58,330 --> 00:34:00,490
stairs supposed to be?
And I know that was where he

546
00:34:00,490 --> 00:34:04,730
brought them in to talk to them.
So it was so weird to see no

547
00:34:04,730 --> 00:34:08,250
stone, no floors, all of that.
And it's like just trying to

548
00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:12,409
imagine Jenny coming down those
stairs pregnant and standing by

549
00:34:12,409 --> 00:34:13,650
the fireplace.
It was.

550
00:34:13,770 --> 00:34:17,489
It's so strange to think about
it like that and to see it the

551
00:34:17,489 --> 00:34:21,080
way it is now.
You know, oh, look, remember

552
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:28,080
that secret room in the pantry?
That's still that works, yes,

553
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:34,400
because that's the place where
Jimmy locked Amanda, right?

554
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,480
So they got, they got plenty of,
they got plenty of spaces.

555
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,400
This is true, but I'm sorry,
plenty of spaces I'm not.

556
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,199
I'm not trying to have relations
on a stone floor.

557
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:49,940
That's just that can't be
comfortable.

558
00:34:50,540 --> 00:34:51,060
They have.
No.

559
00:34:51,420 --> 00:34:54,139
Well, now it's not.
I didn't say they were laying,

560
00:34:56,900 --> 00:35:02,020
but okay, we're going to leave
Brianna a little bit because we

561
00:35:02,020 --> 00:35:03,340
got some other Well, no, let's
go.

562
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:06,300
Let's.
I I loved how she got her job.

563
00:35:07,340 --> 00:35:09,940
Oh, yes, Okay, Yes.
Let's go ahead and talk about

564
00:35:09,980 --> 00:35:13,020
that and then we'll go back to
the other interesting stuff.

565
00:35:13,380 --> 00:35:15,100
Yeah, I love how she got her
job.

566
00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:18,570
She's definitely her mother's
daughter.

567
00:35:18,570 --> 00:35:22,610
Yeah, she is.
And it really did take Roger a

568
00:35:22,610 --> 00:35:26,690
minute to understand.
Honey, we're not back in the

569
00:35:26,690 --> 00:35:29,010
day.
I need you to be a little bit

570
00:35:29,010 --> 00:35:31,290
more present.
You know, I'm an independent

571
00:35:31,290 --> 00:35:32,810
woman.
I'm going to go to work.

572
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:38,770
Yeah.
And I don't, you know, it's it's

573
00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:43,330
strange seeing it that way, but
I think a lot of that for Roger,

574
00:35:43,330 --> 00:35:48,460
if you think about it, when he
first went back in time for her,

575
00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:51,620
he had some of the same
struggles because he couldn't

576
00:35:51,620 --> 00:35:57,660
really do what he had been doing
back in the past because how do

577
00:35:57,660 --> 00:36:02,260
you go from teaching history to
teaching current?

578
00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:07,500
Current affairs, current events
without kind of overseeing.

579
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:13,720
And then, you know, then he got
conscripted into to the war.

580
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:16,800
And it's like all of that stuff
that he learned during the times

581
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,080
when he should have been
building a career for himself.

582
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,280
Now that he's back here, it's
like.

583
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,040
What I do, he's writing, he's
writing.

584
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:31,440
But he did say, and it's fine, I
I I feel like sometimes we give

585
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,400
people a hard time, sometimes
when they say that they a little

586
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,320
a touch, he said.
I'm a bit oldfashed.

587
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,760
Yeah, because you can integrate
those two.

588
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,560
He's a little oldfashioned.
That's Okay.

589
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,000
He just wanted his.
He just feels like he should be

590
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,040
able to support them.
But it's Okay, honey.

591
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,160
But the other you'll find the
gold and you can't support it.

592
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,320
But I think that the kind of
double meaning behind that I'm

593
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,720
oldfashioned.
Roger was a modern guy and he

594
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:05,350
went backwards to 200 years and
he had to live amongst men in

595
00:37:05,350 --> 00:37:07,230
that time.
And even though, yes, Brianna

596
00:37:07,230 --> 00:37:10,670
was still a little more
independent than the women of

597
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:16,270
that time, he still had not
necessarily an image, He still

598
00:37:16,270 --> 00:37:20,710
had responsibilities and he
still had expectations that he

599
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:24,190
was expected to maintain for
that time period.

600
00:37:24,190 --> 00:37:27,070
And so I think.
And this one too.

601
00:37:27,310 --> 00:37:30,790
And this one.
And this one too, because we're

602
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:32,950
not like it's current, we're not
in the present.

603
00:37:33,230 --> 00:37:35,150
So you got to go back to where
they are.

604
00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:39,710
And he should be supporting his,
you know, family.

605
00:37:39,710 --> 00:37:45,390
But he, he has a highly, highly
strong, independent woman.

606
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:48,910
He does.
But also how do you support them

607
00:37:48,910 --> 00:37:54,310
when the one thing you were so
confident about doing your faith

608
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:59,160
has now been shaken?
So it's kind of like you're

609
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,840
coming back to this thing
probably like close to your 30s

610
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,480
now, if he's not already 30, or
maybe a little bit older than

611
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,040
that.
And Oh yeah, cuz Claire, 61.

612
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,760
That means they are close to 40
now, but you have to come back

613
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,920
to a time and now you have to
read.

614
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,240
You have to figure out who you
are again, because you have to.

615
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,980
Be a pastor, being a pastor, and
now your face is taken because

616
00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:30,620
you're like, hey, if God, if God
existed, if God was in control,

617
00:38:31,180 --> 00:38:32,820
then how were we able to do
this?

618
00:38:32,820 --> 00:38:36,740
How were we able to change the
the past so that your parents

619
00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:40,180
survived?
And because they have no clue

620
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:46,420
that the obituary was placed in
error, so technically speaking

621
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:50,500
they they probably didn't change
anything.

622
00:38:51,060 --> 00:38:53,380
You know, you didn't think about
that, knowing that.

623
00:38:53,650 --> 00:38:56,290
No, Roger has no way of knowing
that, so.

624
00:38:57,010 --> 00:38:59,570
It's But honestly, they they
didn't change it.

625
00:38:59,570 --> 00:39:01,330
It was always going to happen
this way.

626
00:39:01,450 --> 00:39:03,890
That's the whole that's the
whole problem with time travel.

627
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:05,570
It was always going to happen
this way.

628
00:39:06,610 --> 00:39:09,690
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, but they don't get they

629
00:39:09,690 --> 00:39:14,500
don't know that because one,
they didn't know what date the

630
00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:16,660
the obituary was.
They just read.

631
00:39:16,820 --> 00:39:19,900
They just remember that Jamie
and Claire died in the fire.

632
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:23,500
Well, the fire happened and they
didn't die, so he's just

633
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:26,780
automatically assuming, oh hey,
we changed it.

634
00:39:27,460 --> 00:39:30,860
You know, not realize.
Oh, the obituary was actually

635
00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:34,820
placed after the fire, because
someone else thought that.

636
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:37,260
They were dead.
Yeah, so.

637
00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:40,980
And you are always going to go
back and Brianna was always

638
00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:47,680
going to make that match.
And she shouldn't have made and

639
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,440
clear was in the car and the
airplane.

640
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,680
But that's another day or time.
Yeah, we'll talk about that in

641
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,240
another.
But yeah, so if it, I don't

642
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,200
know, Roger's going to have to
figure some stuff out.

643
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,360
Like he probably could go back
to teaching.

644
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,040
But he won.
He's been gone for so long, he's

645
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,600
probably going to have to go
back to school, at least for a

646
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,590
little bit.
He's going to have to, you know,

647
00:40:11,710 --> 00:40:15,470
again, they've been back for
roughly 2 years, maybe close to

648
00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:18,190
three years at this point.
But still, is that enough time

649
00:40:18,190 --> 00:40:21,870
for you to catch up on
everything and then fall back

650
00:40:21,870 --> 00:40:25,030
into the role that you were in
before you left?

651
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:29,670
You have a whole different set
of life experience now than when

652
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:34,390
you were here before.
And it's kind of like, how do

653
00:40:34,670 --> 00:40:38,830
you, how do you go and teach
what you're supposed to teach

654
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:44,670
when you have insider knowledge
of other things that happen that

655
00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:48,910
may not be public knowledge that
may not be in the history books?

656
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:55,990
How do you go and and integrate
what you know with what you're

657
00:40:55,990 --> 00:41:01,790
supposed to teach and still when
keep yourself safe?

658
00:41:02,180 --> 00:41:05,220
Because of course, if you start
saying some things that you may

659
00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:07,780
not need to be saying, people
are going to start looking at

660
00:41:07,780 --> 00:41:09,740
you like OK, something is.
Wrong.

661
00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:13,300
Yeah, we had to commit him.
Yeah.

662
00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:16,500
So it's one of those things
where I guess Roger's going to

663
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:21,180
have to figure it out.
But in the meantime, Brianna

664
00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:24,260
knows what she wants to do.
She's been knowing what she

665
00:41:24,260 --> 00:41:26,300
wanted to do.
And even when she was at The

666
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:30,060
Ridge, she was doing those
things, you know, she was trying

667
00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:35,180
to figure out how to do like not
necessarily indoor plumbing but

668
00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:38,620
you know, try to figure out a
way to get them water and to do

669
00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:43,580
this and to do that.
So this is kind of right up her

670
00:41:43,580 --> 00:41:46,740
alley.
But yeah, let's talk about the

671
00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:51,540
that interview, because when it
happens, when she said she had a

672
00:41:51,540 --> 00:41:54,060
job interview and she was
sitting there and the guy was

673
00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:57,140
sitting there eating the
sandwich and what did he say?

674
00:41:58,820 --> 00:42:01,540
If you could, don't you want to
go get us some coffee?

675
00:42:01,540 --> 00:42:04,740
If you could, if you could
follow those directions, you're

676
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:07,780
going to do good here.
I was like whatever job she's

677
00:42:07,780 --> 00:42:09,980
applying for, I don't.
I don't see that.

678
00:42:09,980 --> 00:42:13,700
Working out at all because of
the way that he was talking to

679
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:16,460
her and then when she was
looking at the cafeteria lady,

680
00:42:16,460 --> 00:42:19,420
like, Can you believe this, the
cafeteria lady is looking at her

681
00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:22,620
like this is this is what
happens.

682
00:42:22,620 --> 00:42:25,780
This is normal.
Like, she wasn't bothered by it.

683
00:42:27,460 --> 00:42:30,020
And then when Breanna sits down
and she gives him her resume and

684
00:42:30,020 --> 00:42:33,980
she was like, so here are my
qualifications.

685
00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:37,500
I've studied this, I've done
this, I've done this work and

686
00:42:37,820 --> 00:42:39,900
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he was looking at her.

687
00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:41,980
He was like, hold up.
I think there's a

688
00:42:41,980 --> 00:42:43,940
misunderstanding.
We're needing the secretary.

689
00:42:43,940 --> 00:42:47,060
She was like, okay.
That's all well and good, but

690
00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:49,140
that's.
Not what I'm applying for.

691
00:42:49,140 --> 00:42:52,020
That's not what I'm here for.
I'm here for the plan inspector

692
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:57,500
position.
It's like, but you can't do

693
00:42:57,500 --> 00:43:01,700
that, you're a woman, she said.
And the way that she said,

694
00:43:03,020 --> 00:43:07,740
because it was like she was, she
was confident of what she was

695
00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:10,420
going to ask, But at the same
time, I think she was trying to

696
00:43:10,420 --> 00:43:13,660
figure out, OK, is this the
right thing for me to do?

697
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:16,620
Like she was kind of, I don't
want to say hesitant, but it's

698
00:43:16,620 --> 00:43:21,980
like she's trying to, she's
trying to be tactful, but she's

699
00:43:21,980 --> 00:43:24,980
also trying to say you're not
about to push me away.

700
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:31,360
And it just came across she was
like, So what part of this job

701
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,240
requires you to have a penis?
And the guy was like.

702
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,120
Like, did she just say that to
me?

703
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,800
He was looking around like, did
anybody else hear her saying?

704
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,320
And then he was like, that's
it's a rough job.

705
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,400
You know and then and she she
did it with look at her face.

706
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,160
Like, I'm really asking you
because like maybe I read the

707
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,120
description of the job wrong.
Like, what requires you to have,

708
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,840
right?
Like this is not rhetorical.

709
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,640
And he was like, oh, this job is
rough and you know, the guys or

710
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,640
blah, blah, blah.
She was like, so you mean to

711
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,880
tell me that you hire, you hire
guys that will assault with.

712
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,360
And he was like, no, no, But I
was like she is definitely her

713
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,680
mother's daughter because she is
just telling him and he's just

714
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,960
looking so uncomfortable.
Like everything that he's saying

715
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,440
she's rebutting.
And then she was like, oh, OK,

716
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,900
so while we're here, let me tell
you that I saw you had water

717
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:29,020
coming out the spillway over the
dam.

718
00:44:29,020 --> 00:44:31,220
And it should be doing this and
it should be doing that.

719
00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:33,300
And that means that this is
wrong and blah, blah, blah,

720
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:35,460
blah, blah.
And, you know, if you give me a

721
00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:38,100
moment, I can tell you what's
wrong with it.

722
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,260
I can tell you how to fix it
efficiently.

723
00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:46,700
And you know, he was just
looking at her like, what else

724
00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:48,700
can I say?
Clear.

725
00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:50,340
Do you need to give her the job,
right?

726
00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:55,570
Because after all of that, she's
clearly proven that she knows

727
00:44:55,570 --> 00:44:56,650
what she's doing.
And.

728
00:44:57,170 --> 00:45:00,850
She can handle the men.
We'll see.

729
00:45:01,770 --> 00:45:04,210
We'll see.
But I mean, for now, she can

730
00:45:04,210 --> 00:45:06,130
handle him.
Right.

731
00:45:06,410 --> 00:45:09,610
But I'm.
I'm kind of feeling like you she

732
00:45:09,610 --> 00:45:12,090
can handle the men, if you can
handle the men back in, back in

733
00:45:12,090 --> 00:45:15,730
the day.
This is so you know what I'm

734
00:45:15,730 --> 00:45:17,810
saying?
So like, honey, I've been

735
00:45:17,810 --> 00:45:23,490
through a lot.
I can handle this job but.

736
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,360
They're not going to scare me
off.

737
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,680
No, they're not.
But she didn't even have that

738
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,760
problem back.
Well, I will say this too.

739
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,440
Aside from Stephen Bonnet,
nobody really messed with her

740
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,800
like that.
No, because she had a lot of

741
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,160
confidence beforehand.
I mean, we can say all we want

742
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:50,780
to say about her dad.
But he did a lot with her, you

743
00:45:50,780 --> 00:45:53,460
know what I'm saying?
So I guess like you said, he

744
00:45:53,460 --> 00:45:58,260
knew that she was going to go
back because he he prepared.

745
00:45:58,260 --> 00:46:01,380
I don't feel like she prepared
it because I'm going to be

746
00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:04,620
honest with you.
We can we can all disagree or

747
00:46:04,620 --> 00:46:05,700
agree.
I don't know how it's written in

748
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:07,460
the books.
I don't feel like she was really

749
00:46:07,460 --> 00:46:11,060
close to her mom until after the
truth came out.

750
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:13,100
Yeah, we, yeah, we talked about
that.

751
00:46:13,180 --> 00:46:16,020
We thought, OK, so we're all
clear on their relationship was.

752
00:46:16,740 --> 00:46:19,180
Exchange.
So she's like her mother.

753
00:46:19,340 --> 00:46:21,700
She's like her mother.
She's already was strong.

754
00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:26,140
But her dad also like continued
to Foster and encourage that.

755
00:46:27,460 --> 00:46:31,580
Yeah.
So because, I mean Claire, like

756
00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:36,700
I said a couple of episodes ago,
she could only, I feel like

757
00:46:36,740 --> 00:46:38,700
there was that wall between her
and Brianna.

758
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:43,100
Because of course, one you look
at Brianna, you see Jamie, and

759
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:46,780
this is somebody that you loved
so desperately, so deeply, so,

760
00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:50,660
like completely.
And you can't even talk about it

761
00:46:51,380 --> 00:46:54,140
because of the agreement you
made with Frank?

762
00:46:54,860 --> 00:47:00,140
So then I feel like not only
because she looked like Jamie,

763
00:47:00,140 --> 00:47:04,260
but also because she may have
been compelled to tell Brianna

764
00:47:04,540 --> 00:47:07,940
the truth at any moment.
And so instead of doing that,

765
00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:09,340
she's just like, OK, you know
what?

766
00:47:10,140 --> 00:47:11,780
And I don't think it's something
she did.

767
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:14,720
No.
And and then input and then

768
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:20,360
pursuing her career, she just,
she just went full steam ahead

769
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,160
too, you know what I'm saying?
And she knew she was being taken

770
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,520
care of with Frank.
I don't think it was purpose,

771
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,600
but you know she just had a
little distance with her

772
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,800
daughter and that happens.
So I think in a in a sense that

773
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,240
also made Brianna tougher too,
you know, because she did have

774
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:40,960
to kind of stand up for herself
in a lot of things.

775
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:46,150
And then you go 200 years into
the past and you have a father

776
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:51,750
like Jamie Fraser who's going
to, one, also teach you about

777
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:53,550
what you need to survive back
then.

778
00:47:53,550 --> 00:47:59,710
And two, is not going to let
anybody touch her, you know?

779
00:48:00,310 --> 00:48:05,270
And then she had Roger as well.
So, yeah, what was it Roger

780
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:07,630
said, He said, I'm not worried
about you.

781
00:48:07,830 --> 00:48:09,310
I'm.
I'm worried about the men that

782
00:48:09,310 --> 00:48:11,900
you're going to be working for
because they don't know what

783
00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:14,340
that they don't know what they
have coming.

784
00:48:15,580 --> 00:48:18,260
They don't because they think,
oh, this she a regular woman.

785
00:48:21,140 --> 00:48:24,620
And she's probably, she's
probably going to be smaller

786
00:48:24,740 --> 00:48:27,460
than the rest of them.
Like they'll probably have some

787
00:48:27,460 --> 00:48:31,140
big dudes working and then she's
going to be this little thing

788
00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:33,260
and they're going to be like,
are we supposed to take orders

789
00:48:33,260 --> 00:48:35,660
from her?
No, because, you know, that's

790
00:48:35,660 --> 00:48:38,260
how it is, especially this
1980s.

791
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:42,610
Yeah, it's probably going to be.
So we about to see, but yeah,

792
00:48:42,610 --> 00:48:46,850
that was, that was a very fun,
fun interview.

793
00:48:48,450 --> 00:48:51,010
I don't think you don't have
many interviews like that.

794
00:48:51,970 --> 00:48:54,930
That was a fun one to watch.
That dude, he just looked like,

795
00:48:55,330 --> 00:48:57,330
what the hell to say?
No, you can.

796
00:48:57,330 --> 00:48:59,290
In real life, we're not going to
have one of those interviews

797
00:48:59,290 --> 00:49:00,410
because we're not going to get a
job.

798
00:49:02,330 --> 00:49:05,690
Nope.
It worked for her.

799
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:08,490
It's going to be the little more
submissive or a.

800
00:49:08,490 --> 00:49:09,810
Little more.
Whatever.

801
00:49:09,810 --> 00:49:12,440
Whatever.
Especially when you can't ask a

802
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,960
person, just imagine you being
you ask.

803
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,120
So what part of the job requires
a penis?

804
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:23,080
Do you already know?
Go ahead and walk away, right?

805
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,040
Because in this day and age
somebody, you ask somebody that

806
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,680
they're probably going to be
like, oh, that's a walking HR

807
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,120
violation.
Let me not let.

808
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,840
Me, because they will find some
things that we're doing wrong,

809
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,480
but they'll probably be like,
oh.

810
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:41,680
She's the type of person who's
going to say anything.

811
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,560
And yeah, they're not going to
want to deal with that.

812
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,240
No.
And see when there's injustices

813
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:50,800
and.
And point them out, yeah.

814
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:57,960
So yeah, let's see.
Anything else we need to discuss

815
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,880
about the future before we go
back to the past?

816
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:05,520
Because I really want to talk
about Mr. No, The future of

817
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,160
Ellesmere.
The future is good.

818
00:50:08,490 --> 00:50:09,730
OK?
The future is good.

819
00:50:10,050 --> 00:50:14,130
So let's talk about the 9th girl
of Ellesmere, Mr. William

820
00:50:14,130 --> 00:50:16,810
Ransom.
So at the beginning of the

821
00:50:16,810 --> 00:50:21,330
episode, we see him and his
cousin Hal's son, which I was

822
00:50:21,330 --> 00:50:24,770
like, where the hell is Hal?
You know Laura, John's brother?

823
00:50:25,970 --> 00:50:27,530
I don't know.
He was still alive, but

824
00:50:27,530 --> 00:50:30,490
apparently he is.
And his son is also part of the

825
00:50:30,650 --> 00:50:32,290
army.
He's getting shipped out to New

826
00:50:32,290 --> 00:50:37,130
York, and William is not yet.
I don't think he's been assigned

827
00:50:37,170 --> 00:50:40,060
anywhere.
But while they're out, you know,

828
00:50:40,060 --> 00:50:46,140
drinking, first of all, the
cousin puking his guts out,

829
00:50:48,940 --> 00:50:57,460
mouthful of vomit stuff, and you
going to pull out your you going

830
00:50:57,460 --> 00:51:01,460
to pull out your flask and share
your alcohol with the same

831
00:51:01,460 --> 00:51:02,780
person.
I was like, you know what?

832
00:51:02,780 --> 00:51:07,260
This is why people back in the
1700s got sick and died so much.

833
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:11,370
Yeah, like I understand alcohol
is supposed to kill germs, but

834
00:51:11,410 --> 00:51:15,730
ill he literally just finished
throwing up anyway.

835
00:51:17,650 --> 00:51:20,450
So they come around the corner
and there's a commotion because

836
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:24,530
one of the British officers has
been in a whorehouse and he has

837
00:51:24,530 --> 00:51:28,250
kicked the whore out onto the
street because he says she has

838
00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:30,170
the pox and tried to give it to
him.

839
00:51:30,530 --> 00:51:32,410
Now of course, she claims that
she didn't.

840
00:51:32,410 --> 00:51:39,870
She didn't know and he is being
very cruel to her and being

841
00:51:39,870 --> 00:51:41,990
encouraged to do it by his other
soldiers.

842
00:51:42,190 --> 00:51:45,950
While William and his cousin
kind of look on and horror, that

843
00:51:45,950 --> 00:51:48,270
is the one thing I will say.
William had a look of horror on

844
00:51:48,270 --> 00:51:49,510
his face.
So I was like okay.

845
00:51:50,190 --> 00:51:54,430
We see he did not like the other
British soldiers.

846
00:51:55,630 --> 00:52:00,910
So this dude sets this woman on
fire and everybody else is just

847
00:52:00,910 --> 00:52:04,950
sitting there chanting, let her
burn, let her burn or whatever

848
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:08,400
it was they were chanting.
William is the only person who

849
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,480
comes to her aid.
He takes off his coat, he puts

850
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,600
it on her, but it's a little too
late because the fire has raised

851
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,160
just that much and she's like
severely injured.

852
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:25,240
So then he gets ready to fight
the person who set her on fire.

853
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,920
And of course, you know,
commanding officer comes out and

854
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,480
the the Madam of the whorehouse
comes out and they have to break

855
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,920
up the fight.
But immediately I was like, OK,

856
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,760
so and I feel like from the
beginning you're you're showing

857
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,320
us who William is as a person
because.

858
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:49,360
It's only even we we have only
met him as a child, and then

859
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,560
that brief introduction with him
and Lord John when Brianna meets

860
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,200
him.
So you're showing us this is a

861
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:01,560
man who is compassionate, this
is a man who is not cruel, very

862
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,760
much like his birth father and
very much like Lord John.

863
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,040
Right.
And you had to, because that

864
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,400
doesn't.
Just because your dad is

865
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,920
compassionate and kind, the one
that's raising your Lord John

866
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,680
doesn't mean that you are.
So we needed to see what type of

867
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:25,880
character he is.
So he is a loyal soldier to

868
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:32,160
Britain and the next day he is
called by his commanding officer

869
00:53:32,590 --> 00:53:34,470
to complete a task.
You know, the commanding

870
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:38,390
officer, even kind of, you know,
praises him for what he did.

871
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:40,510
He said, I heard that there was
some trouble last night.

872
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:46,150
I also heard only one soldier
stepped in and you know, William

873
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:49,990
was like, it didn't do much good
because apparently the, you

874
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:53,910
know, she died.
But the commanding officer says

875
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:58,190
to him, he was like, but you
know, it takes a strong person

876
00:53:58,550 --> 00:54:02,350
or brave person to stand up to
your fellow soldiers because

877
00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:06,270
everybody else knows, I I can
guarantee you, if it wasn't for

878
00:54:06,270 --> 00:54:10,910
William's title, they probably
would have jumped him that night

879
00:54:12,310 --> 00:54:16,430
for stepping in, for confronting
the other soldier.

880
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:20,310
They probably would have, they
probably would have attacked

881
00:54:20,310 --> 00:54:21,990
him, they probably would have
beaten him.

882
00:54:22,990 --> 00:54:26,190
But because he is who he is,
they're not going to touch him,

883
00:54:27,790 --> 00:54:31,150
not to.
Me who his dad is, you're not

884
00:54:31,150 --> 00:54:38,750
going to touch him.
So I kind of feel like the the

885
00:54:38,750 --> 00:54:44,350
mission that the officer gave to
William, I feel like, yes, you

886
00:54:44,350 --> 00:54:47,790
gave it to him because of the
type of character he has where

887
00:54:47,790 --> 00:54:51,750
you know that he is loyal, he is
strong, he is going to do what

888
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:54,350
he's supposed to do.
But I also feel like you did it

889
00:54:54,350 --> 00:54:58,980
to kind of get him away from
those other people as well so

890
00:54:58,980 --> 00:55:00,780
that that that kind of thing
won't happen.

891
00:55:01,220 --> 00:55:04,820
But he gives, he gives William 3
missives and he's like, they're

892
00:55:04,820 --> 00:55:07,780
supposed to go to these three
people don't look at the

893
00:55:07,780 --> 00:55:10,940
contents and their names will
not be on it.

894
00:55:10,940 --> 00:55:12,820
So you have to memorize the
names.

895
00:55:12,820 --> 00:55:18,100
So William takes off on his
horse to go to, I think it was

896
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:20,700
Virginia, where he's supposed to
deliver these letters.

897
00:55:21,220 --> 00:55:25,020
Now while he's getting ready,
while he's doing this, he comes

898
00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:31,230
across a snake in the road and
his horse gets startled and

899
00:55:31,230 --> 00:55:37,150
bucks him off the horse.
He rolls down the hill and as

900
00:55:37,150 --> 00:55:41,030
he's rolling a stick, embeds
itself in his arm.

901
00:55:42,310 --> 00:55:44,630
No.
And he was looking at that like,

902
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:47,470
Oh my God, that's so gross.
And looking at his wound, and

903
00:55:47,470 --> 00:55:49,630
that's so gross.
And I was sitting here thinking

904
00:55:49,630 --> 00:55:53,350
to myself, Hanukkah, you watch
The Walking Dead every fucking

905
00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:55,230
week.
And this is gross.

906
00:55:56,220 --> 00:55:57,660
I thought the same thing,
though.

907
00:55:57,660 --> 00:56:02,940
I was like his arm, that stick
it it yeah, it looks painful.

908
00:56:03,580 --> 00:56:07,060
Well, because with everything
that happens in The Walking

909
00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:09,980
Dead, you're like, OK, but this
is something like, literally, I

910
00:56:09,980 --> 00:56:13,340
can go outside and stumble and
that can happen to me.

911
00:56:14,980 --> 00:56:17,660
So it was a little.
Bit more realistic so that like

912
00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:20,540
that literally can happen.
He's doing it in a time where

913
00:56:20,540 --> 00:56:24,380
they don't have antibiotics, he
does access, declares

914
00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:27,220
Penicillin.
Well.

915
00:56:27,380 --> 00:56:28,700
Like, pulled the stick out,
dude.

916
00:56:28,820 --> 00:56:31,980
Pulled it out, pulled the stick
out, pulled it out and wrapped

917
00:56:31,980 --> 00:56:33,340
his arm.
Now I would give.

918
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:36,820
I would give it to him.
He kept going on his mission

919
00:56:37,300 --> 00:56:42,460
through the Great Dismal Swamp.
He kept going.

920
00:56:43,220 --> 00:56:45,340
He kept.
He kept on with his mission on

921
00:56:45,340 --> 00:56:48,940
foot because his horse bolted
after the whole snake incident.

922
00:56:50,140 --> 00:56:52,940
But of course you can see him as
he's going through.

923
00:56:52,940 --> 00:56:57,890
He's getting weaker and weaker
from the blood loss or maybe at

924
00:56:57,890 --> 00:57:00,890
this point his arm has gotten
infected or something like that.

925
00:57:01,570 --> 00:57:05,210
So he's standing by the stream
and he hears something and he

926
00:57:05,210 --> 00:57:09,090
turns around in this in and roll
out because Ian like he told

927
00:57:09,090 --> 00:57:16,690
Jamie he went to go treat with
was it the the Squaney he said

928
00:57:17,130 --> 00:57:21,530
Indians where he try to say hey
you guys come fight on our side

929
00:57:21,530 --> 00:57:26,090
instead of on the British side.
So Ian comes to him and they

930
00:57:26,090 --> 00:57:32,170
have a little conversation and
William is proud but he's also

931
00:57:33,170 --> 00:57:36,690
hurt so he has to ask for help.
He's asking for food and drink.

932
00:57:36,690 --> 00:57:39,610
And Ian was like you don't look
like you have any money.

933
00:57:39,610 --> 00:57:43,610
He was like, I don't have any
now, but I can get, I can get

934
00:57:43,610 --> 00:57:46,410
you some And then you know
that's when Ian sees the wound

935
00:57:46,450 --> 00:57:49,810
and he asked him his name and
when he says William Ransom

936
00:57:50,290 --> 00:57:55,470
Ian's like.
I know who you are, my cousin.

937
00:57:57,630 --> 00:58:03,150
So he does tell William that you
know Jamie is his uncle and that

938
00:58:03,550 --> 00:58:06,030
he knows Lord John.
He also said, yeah, I've met you

939
00:58:06,030 --> 00:58:08,150
before too, when you came to
Fraser's Ridge.

940
00:58:09,390 --> 00:58:12,910
That was so long ago.
And William is like, I I'm

941
00:58:12,910 --> 00:58:15,870
sorry, I don't remember.
So they start having

942
00:58:15,870 --> 00:58:17,510
conversations about different
things.

943
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:21,630
And he asked William, excuse me.
William asked Ian about his time

944
00:58:21,630 --> 00:58:24,980
with the Mohawk.
And they they come to a

945
00:58:24,980 --> 00:58:27,260
conversation where they talking
about death.

946
00:58:27,740 --> 00:58:30,620
Because William, of course, is
thinking that he's probably

947
00:58:30,620 --> 00:58:33,340
going to die because of this
disinfection.

948
00:58:33,860 --> 00:58:35,580
And it's so weird because he's
saying this.

949
00:58:35,580 --> 00:58:38,300
And then at the same time he's
telling he's telling Ian he

950
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:40,660
doesn't need a doctor.
Because Ian is like, we got to

951
00:58:40,660 --> 00:58:42,380
find you a doctor.
I don't need a doctor.

952
00:58:42,860 --> 00:58:47,580
He was like, yeah, OK.
You need a doctor so Ian gets to

953
00:58:47,580 --> 00:58:51,620
work cleaning out the wound
because still has wood splinters

954
00:58:51,620 --> 00:58:56,570
in it which I'm like those out
you can walk around for how long

955
00:58:56,570 --> 00:58:58,850
with wood splinters you weren't
even thinking that.

956
00:58:58,850 --> 00:59:02,530
You just took the big chunk out
and was like OK I'm good wrap it

957
00:59:02,530 --> 00:59:06,330
up and keep going.
But the moment that your arm got

958
00:59:06,410 --> 00:59:11,490
this big and it's red like
yours, your uniform something

959
00:59:11,490 --> 00:59:14,010
should have told you to look at
that wound and see what was

960
00:59:14,010 --> 00:59:17,930
going on.
But you know I guess they don't

961
00:59:17,930 --> 00:59:19,970
do medical.
I guess they don't do first Day

962
00:59:19,970 --> 00:59:24,530
101 and British soldier
training.

963
00:59:27,210 --> 00:59:31,770
So they're having a conversation
about death songs and Ian was

964
00:59:31,770 --> 00:59:36,450
telling telling him about death
songs that the that the Mohawk

965
00:59:36,450 --> 00:59:39,730
do when you know someone comes
to the end of their life and you

966
00:59:39,730 --> 00:59:42,810
know they sing songs about them.
And so William starts trying to

967
00:59:43,170 --> 00:59:46,770
to compose his own death song,
even though, as he says, he

968
00:59:46,770 --> 00:59:49,410
doesn't have enough life
experience to put in a death

969
00:59:49,410 --> 00:59:52,370
song.
So he names his full name,

970
00:59:52,370 --> 00:59:54,650
William, Clarence, whatever,
whatever, whatever.

971
00:59:55,450 --> 00:59:57,770
And then he says, no, that's too
long.

972
00:59:58,770 --> 01:00:02,090
And then he says his name again,
William James.

973
01:00:02,490 --> 01:00:08,410
And Ian just kind of looks at
him and I was like name Jamie

974
01:00:08,570 --> 01:00:12,250
gave him when he made him a
quote UN quote, stinking papist

975
01:00:12,810 --> 01:00:13,170
and.
He.

976
01:00:13,530 --> 01:00:18,650
Said I want to papers name too.
And Jamie named to William

977
01:00:18,650 --> 01:00:20,330
James.
I was like, you don't remember

978
01:00:20,330 --> 01:00:25,770
most of the other stuff, but you
remember that, right?

979
01:00:25,770 --> 01:00:29,250
But but then how would Ian, Why
would Ian look like?

980
01:00:29,690 --> 01:00:31,370
That's interesting?
Because he did look like Because

981
01:00:31,450 --> 01:00:33,170
he.
Had the name James because,

982
01:00:33,250 --> 01:00:35,730
remember, William doesn't know
that Jamie is his father.

983
01:00:36,490 --> 01:00:39,570
Oh, because oh, the James.
OK, yeah, I ain't thinking about

984
01:00:39,570 --> 01:00:41,530
it.
That would because if you name

985
01:00:41,530 --> 01:00:44,050
your if you, that's obvious.
I wasn't thinking about it.

986
01:00:44,250 --> 01:00:46,950
Yeah.
If you say your name is William

987
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:49,670
Clarence, blah, blah, blah,
blah, all this other stuff.

988
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:53,110
And then my short name is
William James.

989
01:00:53,590 --> 01:00:56,870
Like, why would you come up with
the name James just all of a

990
01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:58,950
sudden?
So I think at that point,

991
01:00:58,950 --> 01:01:04,070
William, I mean, Ian really knew
like, oh, OK, so Uncle gave him

992
01:01:04,070 --> 01:01:10,390
that name, even if William does
not remember that, but he does

993
01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:14,750
remember that name.
And I was just like, oh that.

994
01:01:15,140 --> 01:01:23,100
To me, that was I I don't know.
It it kind of touched me because

995
01:01:23,660 --> 01:01:26,780
every time that we've seen
William, like even the time when

996
01:01:26,780 --> 01:01:34,300
he came to Fraser's Ridge, that
wasn't that long after Jamie

997
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:38,940
left Hellwater, you know, it may
have been a few years, but it

998
01:01:38,940 --> 01:01:43,180
shouldn't have been long enough
that William wouldn't have

999
01:01:43,180 --> 01:01:46,330
remembered him.
And even though, yes, in that

1000
01:01:46,330 --> 01:01:49,970
episode when we saw the meet
again, he was like, was your

1001
01:01:49,970 --> 01:01:52,290
name Mac?
Did you used to be the, you

1002
01:01:52,290 --> 01:01:55,290
know, the stable man or the
groom at you know, hell water.

1003
01:01:55,290 --> 01:01:56,930
Do you know me?
Do you Remember Me?

1004
01:01:56,930 --> 01:02:02,250
That sort of thing.
It's like even though he doesn't

1005
01:02:02,250 --> 01:02:06,570
remember certain things like he
he didn't remember meeting Ian

1006
01:02:06,570 --> 01:02:09,730
at Fraser's Ridge and there's
only a few other things that he

1007
01:02:09,730 --> 01:02:14,010
does remember from that time.
Clearly that stuck out sounds

1008
01:02:14,010 --> 01:02:15,270
like.
Okay.

1009
01:02:15,550 --> 01:02:18,790
I wonder now that he's older,
like will he start putting

1010
01:02:18,790 --> 01:02:23,430
things together if it start like
Because even though granted he

1011
01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:26,270
does not look exactly like Jamie
because of course you would

1012
01:02:26,270 --> 01:02:31,230
literally have to find a twin of
Sam Hewan, I feel like they did

1013
01:02:31,230 --> 01:02:35,350
good with the casting.
He does have enough of a look

1014
01:02:35,350 --> 01:02:40,230
that would make you think if you
put him and Jamie together you

1015
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:43,900
would probably look and be like.
Something about the way he

1016
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:49,620
carries himself, you know, and I
know that's probably conscious

1017
01:02:50,060 --> 01:02:54,380
on the actors part.
So yeah, he's a big boy too.

1018
01:02:55,300 --> 01:03:00,900
Yeah, yeah, but I was just like
when he said William James.

1019
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:05,460
I was like okay then Ian is
sitting there like Okay.

1020
01:03:05,460 --> 01:03:09,820
I'm I'm sitting here treating my
cousin and I can't say that

1021
01:03:09,820 --> 01:03:13,430
you're my cousin, but.
It's one of those things where I

1022
01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:18,110
think Ian feels like okay, Even
though you are a redcoat, I have

1023
01:03:18,110 --> 01:03:20,430
an obligation to you because you
are family.

1024
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:25,950
So he does, Yeah.
So he does take William to a

1025
01:03:25,950 --> 01:03:29,790
town where he is heard that
there is a doctor and this is

1026
01:03:29,790 --> 01:03:35,670
where we meet the hunters.
And I was like, okay the moment

1027
01:03:36,230 --> 01:03:39,080
Miss Hunter.
Stepped outside and she started

1028
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,120
talking.
The way she looked at Ian and

1029
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,120
the way he looked at her, I was
like, this is gonna be Ian's

1030
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,680
happy ending.
Yeah, I was like Sparkles Can.

1031
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,960
I I'm excited so and I don't
know anything about the hunters

1032
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,390
from the book.
I don't know anything.

1033
01:03:55,390 --> 01:03:59,070
I haven't heard anything, so I'm
just speculating.

1034
01:03:59,070 --> 01:04:03,550
But I was like, that was a look
that passed there and they

1035
01:04:03,550 --> 01:04:06,910
wanted us to see it because they
they had both had a pause

1036
01:04:06,910 --> 01:04:10,990
looking at each other like, oh,
like you're familiar, like

1037
01:04:10,990 --> 01:04:14,110
there's a connection.
Hey, Rachel didn't.

1038
01:04:14,270 --> 01:04:15,750
Rachel couldn't even speak,
though.

1039
01:04:15,870 --> 01:04:20,030
Rachel came out, got the horse
and looked at in and looked at

1040
01:04:20,030 --> 01:04:24,140
her.
Yeah.

1041
01:04:25,700 --> 01:04:31,220
So I thought it was interesting.
I was like, OK, so you guys are

1042
01:04:31,220 --> 01:04:33,620
showing us who Ian's future wife
is.

1043
01:04:33,660 --> 01:04:35,780
OK, cool.
I don't know.

1044
01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:37,620
I don't know if this is his
future wife.

1045
01:04:37,820 --> 01:04:40,060
I'm just speculating.
Like I said, because of the

1046
01:04:40,060 --> 01:04:42,700
look, I'm like, yeah, there's
about to be something here.

1047
01:04:42,860 --> 01:04:46,540
I was too.
And then I was thinking, OK, now

1048
01:04:46,540 --> 01:04:50,460
we have diverted to one of my
other romance novels because by

1049
01:04:50,460 --> 01:04:56,550
the end of the episode, Rachel
was a tab bit friendly with

1050
01:04:56,830 --> 01:04:59,790
William, with William and
William.

1051
01:05:00,030 --> 01:05:02,150
But William flirts with
everyone, I realized, because he

1052
01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:06,310
was halfway flirting with his
sister and he was flirting with

1053
01:05:06,310 --> 01:05:09,270
Rachel.
So William's A flirt.

1054
01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:13,670
William is just charismatic and
flirting with when the women

1055
01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:16,750
come around.
Yeah, well, I mean, he goes by

1056
01:05:16,790 --> 01:05:18,550
honestly.
Yeah, he does.

1057
01:05:18,550 --> 01:05:19,550
That's what I'm saying.
So he.

1058
01:05:20,110 --> 01:05:22,750
Even with Laura John.
Even though we know Laura John

1059
01:05:22,750 --> 01:05:26,790
is gay and we know that he has
no interest in the women, the

1060
01:05:26,790 --> 01:05:30,790
time being him.
Yes, the women have all been

1061
01:05:30,790 --> 01:05:34,910
like, like when he came to
Brianna's rescue and offered to

1062
01:05:34,910 --> 01:05:37,990
marry her, like all the men in
the room were pissed.

1063
01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:40,270
All the women in the room were
like, Oh my God, like he's

1064
01:05:40,270 --> 01:05:45,150
choosing her, He's choosing her.
And then what was the other

1065
01:05:45,150 --> 01:05:50,650
instant?
I think it was Jacosta's wedding

1066
01:05:51,290 --> 01:05:53,770
where he was there dancing and
there were some women looking

1067
01:05:53,770 --> 01:05:58,570
like, oh, Lord John, right.
So he, he got, he got it honest,

1068
01:05:58,890 --> 01:06:01,690
right.
So he was he was kind of

1069
01:06:01,690 --> 01:06:04,650
flirting with, you know, Rachel
too at the end when she was, you

1070
01:06:04,650 --> 01:06:08,210
know, shaving his face.
So I was like, wait a second, is

1071
01:06:08,210 --> 01:06:11,010
this going to be a be a little
triangle?

1072
01:06:11,410 --> 01:06:14,170
Well, I I was thinking about
that too.

1073
01:06:14,170 --> 01:06:18,970
Because when, when they come.
You know, at this point William

1074
01:06:18,970 --> 01:06:22,410
is pretty much, he's in bad
shape and.

1075
01:06:22,930 --> 01:06:26,090
When Ian leaves like Okay, they
go through this whole thing

1076
01:06:26,090 --> 01:06:28,930
where they have William on the
table and they think they're

1077
01:06:28,930 --> 01:06:32,170
going to have to amputate his
arm because the infection is

1078
01:06:32,170 --> 01:06:35,760
that big.
That was funny, that.

1079
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,600
That was hilarious.
He was like, I don't think so.

1080
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,920
You're not cutting my arm off.
He was like, I would rather die

1081
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,880
than you cut my arm off.
And Ian was like, you are not

1082
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,720
about to have my uncle slit my
throat because I let his son

1083
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,160
die.
Absolutely.

1084
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,960
The fuck not.
You were going to get this arm

1085
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,360
cut off and you were going to
live to fight another day,

1086
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,080
right?
This is not it for you, Sir.

1087
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,120
Right.
And I don't know if it was just

1088
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:02,840
that he was weak or if it was
just the.

1089
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,200
It it could have been just the
intensity of Ian.

1090
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:11,000
But at some point William is
like, OK, do what you got to do.

1091
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:17,480
And just as Denzel is about to
cut the arm off, he like, he

1092
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,600
touches it and all of this pus
starts oozing.

1093
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,800
He was like, oh, OK, so we don't
have to cut his arm off now

1094
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,960
because it's draining.
We can get all this out and we

1095
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,720
can treat it.
And again, I'm looking at this

1096
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,150
pus and I was like, that is
nasty.

1097
01:07:32,270 --> 01:07:34,830
That is nasty.
But I watch The Walking Dead

1098
01:07:34,830 --> 01:07:36,750
every week.
But that is still nasty.

1099
01:07:36,910 --> 01:07:39,590
Yeah, it's different.
Look, it's different.

1100
01:07:42,350 --> 01:07:44,430
It is so different.
Right.

1101
01:07:45,350 --> 01:07:49,990
So while William is recovering,
that's when Ian takes his lead.

1102
01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:54,670
He he, you know, he takes the
horse he leaves some money for

1103
01:07:54,750 --> 01:07:57,030
for William.
For them to care for William.

1104
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:59,990
And you can kind of see this,
like you said, this little

1105
01:07:59,990 --> 01:08:02,030
flirtation between him and
Rachel.

1106
01:08:02,430 --> 01:08:06,310
And then later on in the
episode, you do see a flirtation

1107
01:08:06,510 --> 01:08:10,470
with her and William.
But I think depending on how

1108
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:14,350
much time has elapsed, that
could explain that because one

1109
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:17,430
Ian has left, she doesn't think
she's going to see Ian again.

1110
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:20,670
So yeah, he was cute to flirt
with, but I may never run across

1111
01:08:20,670 --> 01:08:23,470
his path again.
And as far as we can tell, it's

1112
01:08:23,470 --> 01:08:26,710
just it's just her and her
brother.

1113
01:08:27,029 --> 01:08:33,149
They're in the house, they're
Quakers and she probably doesn't

1114
01:08:33,149 --> 01:08:37,630
have many interactions with men.
So of course you see a good

1115
01:08:37,630 --> 01:08:41,590
looking man come, or rather you
see two of them come in at the

1116
01:08:42,350 --> 01:08:45,590
same day.
You feel like who won the

1117
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:50,790
lottery, then why leaves and
then here's the other one.

1118
01:08:51,069 --> 01:08:56,979
And once he's all cleaned up and
not oozing of stinking plus you

1119
01:08:57,020 --> 01:08:59,460
look good.
It's charming.

1120
01:08:59,979 --> 01:09:05,100
He's charismatic.
If this is what I have to work

1121
01:09:05,140 --> 01:09:09,300
with, I can flirt with this too.
So I don't know if it's going to

1122
01:09:09,300 --> 01:09:11,300
be a love triangle.
I don't know what's going to

1123
01:09:11,300 --> 01:09:12,580
happen.
Like I said, I don't know

1124
01:09:12,580 --> 01:09:16,300
anything about the hunters from
the books, but I just kind of

1125
01:09:16,300 --> 01:09:20,340
felt like, especially because
you in particular have been

1126
01:09:20,340 --> 01:09:24,020
saying that you need Ian to have
his happily ever after.

1127
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,560
That this is probably going to
be the start of that, but then

1128
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:35,359
that also makes me worry because
of what Arch Bug said to him.

1129
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,840
I'll come for you when you have
something to look, when you have

1130
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:44,040
something precious to lose.
And I was like because, right.

1131
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,439
And that was just like when that
just last episode for us and

1132
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,930
then now this episode, you
introduced a woman that was

1133
01:09:53,930 --> 01:09:56,210
like, how sweet gonna be.
Could be his wife.

1134
01:09:57,450 --> 01:10:00,730
And even though we just met
them, I like the Hunters

1135
01:10:00,730 --> 01:10:02,370
already.
I do too.

1136
01:10:02,810 --> 01:10:04,130
I do.
I like them.

1137
01:10:04,130 --> 01:10:08,450
I do too.
So now I'm like, Oh no.

1138
01:10:09,210 --> 01:10:12,730
It's strange for me hearing a
white man with the name Denzel,

1139
01:10:12,730 --> 01:10:17,730
though, because the only one I
know is Denzel Washington and.

1140
01:10:18,450 --> 01:10:20,410
I keep thinking about the
interview.

1141
01:10:20,410 --> 01:10:23,970
He did an interview on the
Graham Norton Show, I think it

1142
01:10:23,970 --> 01:10:25,690
was.
And he said what is real?

1143
01:10:25,690 --> 01:10:26,970
How to really say his?
Name.

1144
01:10:27,010 --> 01:10:30,250
How you really say his name and
it's Denzel and I was just like.

1145
01:10:30,410 --> 01:10:34,130
Oh, that's that's interesting.
But OK, whatever.

1146
01:10:34,970 --> 01:10:39,810
But I'm just and I read.
I feel like it was a woman who

1147
01:10:39,810 --> 01:10:44,090
said Denzel.
Because they just like saying

1148
01:10:44,090 --> 01:10:47,810
the saying his name out and so
just saying Denzel.

1149
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:54,080
He said his mother, or rather
he's he made it Denzel because

1150
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,480
his father is also Denzel.
So whenever his mom would call

1151
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:03,920
for Denzel, both of them would
respond He, you know, he kind of

1152
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,720
sort of changed the
pronunciation so that they could

1153
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,840
differentiate because it's just
so interesting, you know?

1154
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:19,450
Denzel and Denzel.
Denzel.

1155
01:11:21,250 --> 01:11:22,330
Right.
You out on the point?

1156
01:11:23,570 --> 01:11:26,930
Denzel.
Mmhmm.

1157
01:11:26,930 --> 01:11:28,570
Mmhmm.
Yeah, Mmhmm.

1158
01:11:28,690 --> 01:11:30,570
OK.
I just say probably when his

1159
01:11:30,570 --> 01:11:35,330
girlfriend said that name long
Denzel, he said, oh, I like

1160
01:11:35,330 --> 01:11:36,810
that.
OK, I'll have my mom call me.

1161
01:11:36,810 --> 01:11:38,290
That is a little different from
the day stop.

1162
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,040
So yeah, it was it was
interesting.

1163
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,680
But I do like the hunters
though.

1164
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,880
I do I.
Do they seem like they are the

1165
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:55,600
type of people who, and I don't
know much about Quaker religion,

1166
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,760
so I don't know what their
beliefs are and you know how

1167
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,440
they do things.
But these two characters, they

1168
01:12:00,440 --> 01:12:05,080
seem like they are very
steadfast and who they are and

1169
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,080
very uncompromising who they
are.

1170
01:12:08,980 --> 01:12:12,460
But also, it's nice to come
across some strangers who don't

1171
01:12:12,460 --> 01:12:15,780
automatically try to kill you or
think that you're doing, you

1172
01:12:15,780 --> 01:12:21,540
know, just they just seem
genuinely nice and like, even

1173
01:12:21,540 --> 01:12:24,020
though they didn't know what was
going on, I mean, think about

1174
01:12:24,020 --> 01:12:26,460
it.
You have someone who looks like

1175
01:12:26,460 --> 01:12:30,500
a Mohawk Indian and you have a
red coat coming to your house.

1176
01:12:30,780 --> 01:12:32,420
You don't know what the
situation is.

1177
01:12:32,420 --> 01:12:35,220
You already, I'm sure you
already know that there's talk

1178
01:12:35,220 --> 01:12:37,540
of war.
So.

1179
01:12:38,610 --> 01:12:42,090
You don't know what's going on.
He could have been, you know,

1180
01:12:42,090 --> 01:12:45,850
shot whatever, could be bringing
trouble to your door.

1181
01:12:46,050 --> 01:12:49,050
But they still opened up their
home to help him.

1182
01:12:49,330 --> 01:12:52,850
And then when Ian left him, it,
it wasn't like, oh, you have to

1183
01:12:52,850 --> 01:12:55,410
take him with you.
No, we'll take care of him until

1184
01:12:55,410 --> 01:12:58,690
this time for him to, you know,
to leave or whatever.

1185
01:12:58,690 --> 01:13:04,210
So yeah, I like them.
I'm very interested to see how

1186
01:13:04,210 --> 01:13:08,050
this thing with with Rachel is
going to go.

1187
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:13,150
I I got to say William for now
because again Ian has left.

1188
01:13:13,150 --> 01:13:18,190
But that would be interesting to
see how that happens, because

1189
01:13:18,190 --> 01:13:24,670
she, it almost reminds me of, it
kind of reminds me a little bit

1190
01:13:24,670 --> 01:13:29,510
of Lizzy with the twins, like
the the way that they were kind

1191
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:33,110
of sneaking those looks at each
other and like.

1192
01:13:33,980 --> 01:13:36,620
So which twin is she going to
end up with, not knowing that

1193
01:13:36,620 --> 01:13:37,940
she's going to end up with both
of them?

1194
01:13:39,700 --> 01:13:44,540
But yeah, so it's it's it's
going to be interesting to see

1195
01:13:44,540 --> 01:13:49,740
what the hunters and in
particular Rachel, bring to the

1196
01:13:49,740 --> 01:13:52,180
show.
Like I said, I really, I really

1197
01:13:52,180 --> 01:13:55,820
do want this to be like Ian's
happily ever after because he

1198
01:13:55,820 --> 01:13:59,100
deserves it.
But yeah, that's going to be

1199
01:13:59,420 --> 01:14:01,670
interesting.
But it's also nice to have

1200
01:14:01,670 --> 01:14:08,950
another Doctor on the show, so
one who seems like he knows what

1201
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:13,550
he's doing, right?
So And then the and the great.

1202
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:19,550
And she's a great assistant too,
so someone else to learn.

1203
01:14:19,710 --> 01:14:22,230
I want to know.
I want to know the so I'm

1204
01:14:22,230 --> 01:14:27,260
thinking, well, we're going to
have to see the hunters again

1205
01:14:27,260 --> 01:14:29,660
because it's just kind of hard
for you just to throw them in

1206
01:14:29,660 --> 01:14:31,700
here.
And then they're gone once

1207
01:14:31,700 --> 01:14:34,660
William goes about his way to
deliver his papers.

1208
01:14:34,700 --> 01:14:38,260
Yeah, no, I think they're going
to be around for a minute.

1209
01:14:38,620 --> 01:14:40,860
OK.
Yeah, at least for a few

1210
01:14:40,860 --> 01:14:44,380
episodes.
If anything, like I said, if you

1211
01:14:44,380 --> 01:14:47,500
don't know they're in the books
or not, I.

1212
01:14:47,500 --> 01:14:49,340
Think they are.
That's what I was saying.

1213
01:14:49,380 --> 01:14:54,820
I haven't read it, but I think.
They are, and I think she does

1214
01:14:54,820 --> 01:14:57,780
have a relationship with Ian.
I don't know if it's the happily

1215
01:14:57,780 --> 01:15:02,580
ever after type, but I I do
think I will take anything right

1216
01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:07,180
now for him.
I'm desperate for love.

1217
01:15:07,180 --> 01:15:10,500
For Ian, I don't.
I don't care.

1218
01:15:10,500 --> 01:15:14,540
We had to do the The Bachelor
and this is just one of them.

1219
01:15:14,580 --> 01:15:17,260
I and we get another.
I don't care.

1220
01:15:18,180 --> 01:15:23,040
He deserves some love and some
peace he does.

1221
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,960
And to live on the farm, I don't
care.

1222
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,160
I mean, they have.
I'm telling you right now.

1223
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:34,240
I am telling you they.
Do they got the water right in

1224
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:37,000
front of them?
But I'll tell you right now so

1225
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,920
I'm happy to Ian, I I swear you
I will no longer be on this

1226
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,280
podcast.
I will burn every book.

1227
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:53,980
Some bad not happen to him.
I can't say whether or not

1228
01:15:53,980 --> 01:15:57,260
something does or doesn't
because I because I understand

1229
01:15:57,740 --> 01:16:03,100
Jamie and Claire have lived a
full life and they found love

1230
01:16:03,300 --> 01:16:05,980
and whatever ending we get, we
going to get and I'm going to be

1231
01:16:05,980 --> 01:16:10,180
OK with that.
But Ian has been through some

1232
01:16:10,180 --> 01:16:12,500
shit.
You saying it with your chest?

1233
01:16:14,260 --> 01:16:17,140
So I need him to be OK at the
end.

1234
01:16:18,790 --> 01:16:21,230
I live an old man with a lot of
kids.

1235
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:24,710
I just need that.
That's all I need.

1236
01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:29,910
That's what I need for him.
Oh, that's what I'm sitting here

1237
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:34,270
looking right now.
So that's how Ian got him to

1238
01:16:34,270 --> 01:16:36,790
agree to be a amputation.
He was like.

1239
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:40,030
He was like, no, we still need a
proper you can't die.

1240
01:16:40,030 --> 01:16:41,870
We still need a proper death
song for you.

1241
01:16:41,870 --> 01:16:44,510
You ain't dead shit yet.
Oh yeah.

1242
01:16:45,450 --> 01:16:48,490
But also because when he told
them he they couldn't amputate,

1243
01:16:48,650 --> 01:16:51,050
Rachel was like, then get
thyself off thy table.

1244
01:16:52,570 --> 01:16:54,770
She was like, oh, and we can't
save your life.

1245
01:16:55,050 --> 01:16:57,610
You can get the hell on because
we're not going to have you just

1246
01:16:57,610 --> 01:16:59,890
sit here and die.
Ooh, that puss.

1247
01:17:00,570 --> 01:17:06,500
It's just so gross.
It's so gross, but that was

1248
01:17:06,500 --> 01:17:08,740
funny.
Like, OK, if we're not going to

1249
01:17:08,740 --> 01:17:11,500
attempt this, then you can just
move around, move about your

1250
01:17:11,500 --> 01:17:14,020
business, get on your horse and
leave and we clean up for the

1251
01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:16,740
next person.
Right, get off my table.

1252
01:17:16,740 --> 01:17:18,740
Stop putting your germs on my
table.

1253
01:17:19,980 --> 01:17:25,100
We got to eat later on.
Oh goodness.

1254
01:17:25,420 --> 01:17:30,700
But yeah, so the look.
The little flirty miss after Ian

1255
01:17:30,700 --> 01:17:35,140
leaves.
She's sitting there shaving

1256
01:17:36,340 --> 01:17:39,860
William and yeah, they're having
the conversation.

1257
01:17:39,860 --> 01:17:44,860
I was sitting there looking, I
was like, yeah, this looks like

1258
01:17:44,900 --> 01:17:48,140
it's going to be a thing too,
right?

1259
01:17:48,140 --> 01:17:49,940
That's always like, I'm
confused.

1260
01:17:50,900 --> 01:17:55,700
I'm very confused.
Like, again, I I can understand.

1261
01:17:55,700 --> 01:17:59,340
William is a nice looking man
and you think that you're not

1262
01:17:59,340 --> 01:18:01,490
going to see him.
That's true.

1263
01:18:01,490 --> 01:18:06,410
But you had a what?
You think a bad boy show up with

1264
01:18:06,410 --> 01:18:15,290
a wolf and then you have the
good boy in the uniform who has

1265
01:18:15,290 --> 01:18:16,970
a uniform.
You ain't seen the uniform yet,

1266
01:18:17,290 --> 01:18:20,610
but once you cleaned them up,
you realize he got some money.

1267
01:18:21,650 --> 01:18:23,930
Oh yeah, no, because at this
point they don't know that

1268
01:18:23,930 --> 01:18:27,690
William is a soldier.
No, but she know he has some

1269
01:18:27,690 --> 01:18:29,690
money that he comes from
something.

1270
01:18:31,980 --> 01:18:37,500
I think she said she kind of
said it like she said something

1271
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:41,780
that indicate like, oh, OK, you
you know, you're about business.

1272
01:18:41,780 --> 01:18:44,300
You're you're something or what
not.

1273
01:18:44,860 --> 01:18:50,540
And then you got Ian the bad boy
with the with the wolf not the

1274
01:18:50,540 --> 01:18:51,620
dog.
But hey.

1275
01:18:52,660 --> 01:18:56,620
Right now, here's the He's my
favorite type of dog he is.

1276
01:18:56,620 --> 01:18:59,850
He's so gorgeous.
Here's the other very

1277
01:18:59,850 --> 01:19:02,410
interesting thing about that
shaving scene.

1278
01:19:03,850 --> 01:19:09,170
So while she's putting the the
lather on his face, she tells

1279
01:19:09,170 --> 01:19:12,410
William it is a shame that you
can't keep your beard.

1280
01:19:12,450 --> 01:19:17,410
It is of a very striking color
and I'm sitting here looking at

1281
01:19:17,410 --> 01:19:22,770
his stubble.
It's coming in very Auburn red.

1282
01:19:28,770 --> 01:19:32,370
So yeah, y'all are about to
start putting things into

1283
01:19:32,370 --> 01:19:36,090
motion, because, you know, I
told you at some point William

1284
01:19:36,090 --> 01:19:37,970
does find out that Jamie is his
father.

1285
01:19:37,970 --> 01:19:42,810
I don't know where in the books
or how far off we are, but I

1286
01:19:42,810 --> 01:19:45,770
feel like you're giving us all
of these things now because

1287
01:19:45,770 --> 01:19:53,690
you're preparing us for that.
So yeah, well, how many episodes

1288
01:19:53,690 --> 01:19:58,130
do we have this season?
17.

1289
01:19:58,250 --> 01:20:04,810
We have 17.
So we have 10 more to go from

1290
01:20:06,050 --> 01:20:08,490
because, I mean, seven just
showed.

1291
01:20:08,490 --> 01:20:11,970
So we have 10 more.
OK, so then he's going to find

1292
01:20:11,970 --> 01:20:16,970
out this season you think it's.
Seven OK yeah.

1293
01:20:17,210 --> 01:20:17,890
Oh.
Wow.

1294
01:20:18,890 --> 01:20:21,570
Yeah, I mean, we're do wait a
minute.

1295
01:20:21,770 --> 01:20:25,130
We're doing 4 currently right
now.

1296
01:20:25,130 --> 01:20:28,780
Episode 4.
What is currently out?

1297
01:20:29,380 --> 01:20:33,100
No, it's six just came out.
Six just came out.

1298
01:20:33,100 --> 01:20:39,180
OK, yes.
So 11 more, Yes.

1299
01:20:39,180 --> 01:20:42,660
William is going to have to find
out, yeah.

1300
01:20:44,020 --> 01:20:50,020
Especially because the final
season is only 7 episodes I

1301
01:20:50,020 --> 01:20:52,340
think.
That's all we need.

1302
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:58,120
And so in this season, 16
episodes, 16, OK, so 10 more.

1303
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:03,280
So what we going to get is that
he going to find out about his

1304
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,360
death and we going to find that
gold.

1305
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,560
We're probably not going to find
the gold until the second-half

1306
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,720
of the of the season because
they're they're splitting the

1307
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,480
season.
In the episode Parts.

1308
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,480
Wait a second, Hold on a second.
Hold on.

1309
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:24,320
So we have two more episodes and
then we have a hiatus.

1310
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,640
For how long?
I don't.

1311
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,160
It better be like the other
shows that we watch for a month.

1312
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:39,040
From what I am seeing on Google
right now, it says the

1313
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:47,160
second-half later in 2024, so I
don't know when in 2024 we are

1314
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:52,410
getting them.
Well, we don't go back to the

1315
01:21:52,410 --> 01:21:54,610
shave.
What what I was saying was

1316
01:21:55,170 --> 01:21:59,410
Rachel has said on your speech
is better than your clothes.

1317
01:21:59,530 --> 01:22:03,010
And I can tell you from great
caliber, that's how you're

1318
01:22:03,010 --> 01:22:05,130
presenting yourself, how he
presents himself.

1319
01:22:05,250 --> 01:22:08,570
Yeah, because he's trying to
keep from saying who he is.

1320
01:22:09,330 --> 01:22:13,490
Yeah, but you can't hide, but
you can't hide up that upbring

1321
01:22:13,490 --> 01:22:15,410
that he has.
So I was going to say you can't

1322
01:22:15,410 --> 01:22:17,370
hide that breathing.
Right.

1323
01:22:17,370 --> 01:22:19,450
You got throw some slang words
in there, Sir.

1324
01:22:19,450 --> 01:22:20,650
And he.
I know he's not.

1325
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,600
No, no.
And you don't hang out in the

1326
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,840
wilderness, so we clearly know
that.

1327
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,280
Well, he, you know, that's he's
talking to her.

1328
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:36,280
And he does talk about the
hunting in the Great Dismal

1329
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,120
Swamp because she does ask how
he came to be there or how he

1330
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,440
knows.
And he was like, Oh, yeah, I've

1331
01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:42,120
hunted.
I've hunted there before.

1332
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,360
You know, Doesn't he doesn't
tell her, Oh yeah, on a

1333
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,480
plantation kind of in these
parts or anything like that.

1334
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:53,000
But that's when he starts asking
her if he mentions something

1335
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,120
about, I think he, he mentions
one of the people he's supposed

1336
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:02,480
to be looking for, or she does.
And he was like, oh, is it such

1337
01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:04,920
and such?
Oh, and he's known.

1338
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:06,960
What is it?
He is a friend.

1339
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,680
He is a friend of someone known
to me.

1340
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,240
And he finds out that that
person is a rebel.

1341
01:23:15,210 --> 01:23:18,010
So when she gets off the porch,
she's sitting there looking like

1342
01:23:18,450 --> 01:23:22,690
why am I delivering something
from the commanding officer of

1343
01:23:22,690 --> 01:23:25,530
the British Army to 1?
Of these vehicles.

1344
01:23:26,650 --> 01:23:30,970
So he starts looking like, So I
was like, yeah, at some point,

1345
01:23:30,970 --> 01:23:33,570
William, you're going to have to
make a choice.

1346
01:23:34,450 --> 01:23:36,970
I feel like I don't know what
those missiles were.

1347
01:23:36,970 --> 01:23:39,890
I don't know what they, you
know, they they could have been

1348
01:23:39,890 --> 01:23:42,810
talks of surrender.
They could have been, you know,

1349
01:23:42,810 --> 01:23:46,300
whatever probably had something
to do with spying because I

1350
01:23:46,300 --> 01:23:51,100
think when William was getting
the missives, he mentioned

1351
01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:54,940
something about spying and or
rather the the commanding

1352
01:23:54,940 --> 01:23:56,500
officer mentioned something
about spying.

1353
01:23:56,500 --> 01:23:59,980
And William basically was like,
I have no designs to be a spy.

1354
01:23:59,980 --> 01:24:02,590
I don't want to do it.
And what did that guy say?

1355
01:24:02,790 --> 01:24:06,390
He said most, most men who
consider themselves soldiers

1356
01:24:06,390 --> 01:24:09,070
wouldn't.
Oh, you know what he did say?

1357
01:24:09,310 --> 01:24:12,710
Most men who consider themselves
soldiers wouldn't.

1358
01:24:12,990 --> 01:24:17,230
Maybe those people are spies.
And that's why, he said.

1359
01:24:17,950 --> 01:24:19,990
Because they're not soldiers,
they're they're part of the

1360
01:24:20,430 --> 01:24:24,830
rebellion.
Okay.

1361
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:33,180
But yeah, I I like William.
There's some flirting vibes are

1362
01:24:33,180 --> 01:24:36,180
going on between them, so, so
very much so.

1363
01:24:36,420 --> 01:24:38,260
And that's why I was saying I
like William.

1364
01:24:38,580 --> 01:24:41,500
I like what we've seen of him so
far and.

1365
01:24:41,540 --> 01:24:50,140
And this if like if Ian doesn't
see Miss Hunter again see a her

1366
01:24:50,140 --> 01:24:52,380
and William thing.
The good thing is you see you

1367
01:24:52,380 --> 01:24:55,660
see chemistry with both of them.
Yeah, you do.

1368
01:24:55,780 --> 01:24:59,200
So it can go either way except.
Get better.

1369
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,720
Go to Ian.
But that's just you know, that's

1370
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,840
how I feel.
You're biased.

1371
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,280
I know, I know.
But you know what William.

1372
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,160
But I know this from last
episode when he met Brianna.

1373
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:16,440
I see the OR two episodes go.
I do see some of that reddish

1374
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,880
brown the way that colored his
hair.

1375
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,160
It's.
It's there.

1376
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,120
It's very it has like an Auburn
tent to it.

1377
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,120
Yeah.
So the thing about it is if he

1378
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:33,680
ever just like stands with Jamie
or be around him for a minute,

1379
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,720
he's going to figure it out
because they going to have

1380
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,160
mannerisms.
They already did when he was

1381
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:41,200
younger to the point where they
were look across the field and

1382
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:46,560
be like, oh shit, OK, what was
the grandmother said?

1383
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:53,210
She said we we said that Willie
spends so much time with Mac

1384
01:25:53,570 --> 01:25:55,530
that he's starting to look like
him.

1385
01:25:57,490 --> 01:26:02,490
And then Jamie happened to see
his his reflection in the

1386
01:26:02,490 --> 01:26:04,250
mirror.
When Willie was cleaning the

1387
01:26:04,250 --> 01:26:08,850
thing, he was like, Oh yeah,
it's time for me to.

1388
01:26:08,850 --> 01:26:16,490
Go time for me to go.
So yeah, but yeah, he yeah, I

1389
01:26:16,490 --> 01:26:19,650
have a feeling that Red is going
to come out just just a little

1390
01:26:19,650 --> 01:26:22,690
bit.
And he something about the way,

1391
01:26:23,290 --> 01:26:26,690
and again, I don't know if this
is because the actor is

1392
01:26:26,690 --> 01:26:30,530
purposefully doing it or if it's
just the way that he is and

1393
01:26:30,530 --> 01:26:34,810
that's why they cast him.
But even just the way he makes

1394
01:26:34,810 --> 01:26:38,490
some of his facial expressions
or the way he holds himself,

1395
01:26:38,850 --> 01:26:44,130
it's kind of reminiscent of
Jamie, you know?

1396
01:26:44,650 --> 01:26:47,090
But yeah, that's going to be
interesting.

1397
01:26:47,850 --> 01:26:54,590
It will be, but on the other
note, Jamie and Claire and the

1398
01:26:54,590 --> 01:26:58,070
rebels that he is in command of
now, they have arrived at Fort

1399
01:26:58,070 --> 01:27:01,670
Ticonderoga, which is where
Jamie was instructed to go.

1400
01:27:03,310 --> 01:27:05,830
So I'm like, okay.
I guess y'all won't be avoiding

1401
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:11,910
this war, or some of the battles
at least, because I know that

1402
01:27:11,910 --> 01:27:14,870
there's a battle at Fort
Ticonderoga or there's supposed

1403
01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:16,390
to be something that happens
there.

1404
01:27:18,650 --> 01:27:25,690
But yeah, the American
Revolution is on its way and

1405
01:27:25,690 --> 01:27:27,890
it's going to be so interesting
because you have all these

1406
01:27:27,890 --> 01:27:31,130
parts.
Like Jamie, Claire and Ian were

1407
01:27:31,130 --> 01:27:34,010
planning to go to Scotland so
that Jamie wouldn't have to

1408
01:27:34,010 --> 01:27:36,610
fight against his son because he
refuses to fight for the

1409
01:27:36,610 --> 01:27:39,650
British.
And now he literally has been

1410
01:27:39,650 --> 01:27:44,030
put into a position where if
they go to war, he might be on

1411
01:27:44,030 --> 01:27:45,590
the battlefield.
What's my son?

1412
01:27:46,110 --> 01:27:50,830
I need them just to skip town.
Just get on the damn boat.

1413
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:55,110
OK?
But see, the problem is, Jamie

1414
01:27:55,190 --> 01:28:00,230
is still the, I guess you say
the Laird.

1415
01:28:00,350 --> 01:28:02,710
The land.
Yeah, He is never a Fraser's

1416
01:28:02,710 --> 01:28:07,500
Ridge and so he has to.
That's going to put everybody

1417
01:28:07,500 --> 01:28:10,220
else in in danger at Fraser's
Ridge.

1418
01:28:10,220 --> 01:28:13,180
And he he has to think about the
other people.

1419
01:28:13,620 --> 01:28:16,980
You've got Lizzy there with her
babies because she probably has

1420
01:28:16,980 --> 01:28:20,860
had her second child by now.
You've got the twins, you've got

1421
01:28:20,860 --> 01:28:25,300
all these other people who Jamie
took in, all the Fisher folk

1422
01:28:25,300 --> 01:28:28,290
that are there, so.
I know.

1423
01:28:28,290 --> 01:28:30,610
I just want them to skip town
and say they were kidnapped.

1424
01:28:30,730 --> 01:28:34,970
You got to figure that Jamie is
tired of being a wanted man at

1425
01:28:35,010 --> 01:28:36,330
this.
Right, he is.

1426
01:28:36,370 --> 01:28:39,090
And it's it's almost the point
where I could be like, I'm too

1427
01:28:39,130 --> 01:28:45,850
old to fight in the war.
Well, I.

1428
01:28:46,130 --> 01:28:48,170
Can't say that either because
he's not looking.

1429
01:28:49,130 --> 01:28:52,090
He's, he's not looking
conscious, so he's not looking

1430
01:28:52,170 --> 01:28:53,290
up at all.
So.

1431
01:28:54,380 --> 01:28:56,380
Right.
And when you can be, when you

1432
01:28:56,380 --> 01:29:00,780
can be captured by by some men,
by Richard Brown's men and you

1433
01:29:00,780 --> 01:29:04,340
sit there and fight them all,
yeah.

1434
01:29:04,540 --> 01:29:08,180
So you're not too old to fight?
No, you're not at all.

1435
01:29:08,660 --> 01:29:12,220
I just, it's one of those things
where it's like you should have

1436
01:29:12,220 --> 01:29:15,420
went to a different town, you
should have went a different

1437
01:29:15,420 --> 01:29:17,100
way.
But I I guess it was going to

1438
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:19,180
happen.
Don't just walk around, rock

1439
01:29:19,180 --> 01:29:22,500
around at night.
So now I see you right with all

1440
01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:24,060
that red hair.
Camp.

1441
01:29:24,140 --> 01:29:29,620
Camp on the outskirts of town,
yeah, But you know, it's kind of

1442
01:29:29,620 --> 01:29:31,660
like what we were saying with
the whole Roger and Brianna

1443
01:29:31,660 --> 01:29:34,100
thing.
If it's if it's meant to happen,

1444
01:29:34,300 --> 01:29:36,740
if he was supposed to be in that
battle, there's nothing that

1445
01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:40,700
they would be able to do.
To kill him from like they

1446
01:29:40,700 --> 01:29:42,660
tried.
They tried to go to Scotland

1447
01:29:42,660 --> 01:29:45,540
like, OK, look, we're not, we're
not about to be a part of this

1448
01:29:45,620 --> 01:29:47,540
and you?
Seem to help to intervene.

1449
01:29:47,540 --> 01:29:51,980
So I feel like he's probably
supposed to be a part of this.

1450
01:29:53,500 --> 01:29:56,260
I hope that doesn't mean that
he's going to have to, you know,

1451
01:29:56,460 --> 01:30:00,100
fight against William or be, you
know, I'm hoping that once he

1452
01:30:00,100 --> 01:30:02,220
does this, whatever he's
supposed to do at Fort

1453
01:30:02,220 --> 01:30:08,740
Ticonderoga, I don't think it's
a permanent post because oh dude

1454
01:30:08,740 --> 01:30:11,660
was kind of like okay Well, you
just need to do this one thing

1455
01:30:11,660 --> 01:30:14,260
for me and then you can be you
can be on your way.

1456
01:30:14,260 --> 01:30:17,860
You just be delayed.
So I'm hoping they keep to that

1457
01:30:17,860 --> 01:30:21,140
and Jamie can take his ass to
Scotland because one, I really

1458
01:30:21,140 --> 01:30:23,820
do want to go back to Scotland
and see how everybody is doing

1459
01:30:23,820 --> 01:30:26,620
and I know that we are going to
Scotland.

1460
01:30:26,620 --> 01:30:30,500
Because of the season seven
casting news before they started

1461
01:30:30,500 --> 01:30:32,740
shooting the season.
Yeah, Which is going to be the

1462
01:30:32,740 --> 01:30:37,660
second-half, though, that's
coming out 2024.

1463
01:30:39,260 --> 01:30:41,660
That'll give us some time.
Look, that'll give us some time

1464
01:30:41,660 --> 01:30:43,740
to read.
Oh yeah, that is true.

1465
01:30:44,020 --> 01:30:46,100
That is true.
But then we're not trying to

1466
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:48,780
catch up, are we?
We're not supposed to surpass

1467
01:30:49,860 --> 01:30:53,100
what is being on the show.
Yeah, no, we're we're going to

1468
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:55,820
do our best to be disciplined.
We just want to get up to this

1469
01:30:55,820 --> 01:30:58,100
point.
We can get up to this point and

1470
01:30:58,100 --> 01:31:01,820
just kind of once we have that
little background, we can kind

1471
01:31:01,820 --> 01:31:04,060
of talk amongst ourselves.
And then we stop.

1472
01:31:04,580 --> 01:31:08,380
So this is what we think is
going to happen based on what's

1473
01:31:08,380 --> 01:31:11,540
happening in the book so far, we
can do that.

1474
01:31:11,820 --> 01:31:14,370
So that gives us some.
Gives us some time.

1475
01:31:14,370 --> 01:31:17,770
I'm a little sad now that I was
thinking, ooh, we got 10 more

1476
01:31:17,770 --> 01:31:21,130
episodes.
Girl I I wish they.

1477
01:31:21,410 --> 01:31:27,890
But even on network TV or cable
TV, even when those shows were

1478
01:31:27,890 --> 01:31:33,490
doing 2223 episode shows, they
always took a split in the

1479
01:31:33,490 --> 01:31:35,570
middle of the the season.
So.

1480
01:31:35,930 --> 01:31:41,930
Yeah, for the holidays.
It might be a holiday over

1481
01:31:41,930 --> 01:31:47,690
there, no?
So yeah, I understand.

1482
01:31:48,290 --> 01:31:53,570
Yeah, I but I will say this too,
as much as I would like to be

1483
01:31:53,570 --> 01:31:58,210
able to watch the episodes
without a break, I'm kind of

1484
01:31:58,210 --> 01:32:02,330
glad that we do have a break
because that extends how long we

1485
01:32:02,330 --> 01:32:06,250
have with the show.
Because once those eight

1486
01:32:06,250 --> 01:32:10,130
episodes air and then the final
season episodes, which is I

1487
01:32:10,210 --> 01:32:11,970
think only six or seven, that's
it.

1488
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:18,840
So I I don't mind the hiatus a
little bit because it it extends

1489
01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:21,080
how much longer we want to enjoy
with.

1490
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:25,200
You it won't be a big gap before
we get Season 8.

1491
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,320
Hopefully, yes, it won't be a it
won't be a 400.

1492
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:33,360
And how many days was this time?
455 days or 6?

1493
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:37,360
150 it It won't be that, so
that'll be a good thing.

1494
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:43,310
I was Speaking of which so news
that came out this week that I

1495
01:32:43,310 --> 01:32:48,430
happen to see.
Apparently the prequel series

1496
01:32:48,470 --> 01:32:53,030
about Jamie's parents has been
greenlit, so we will be getting

1497
01:32:53,070 --> 01:32:58,710
a An Outlander spinoff series
based on Brian and Ellen Fraser.

1498
01:33:00,350 --> 01:33:06,520
So now, I still wish then we
could get more Outlander,

1499
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,840
because again, she's still
writing the 10th book.

1500
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:15,760
The 10th book is supposed to be
the end of Jamie and Claire's

1501
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,200
story.
So I don't know how they're

1502
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:21,200
going to do the final season for
Outlander, if they're going to

1503
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:25,120
get notes from her as far as
what happens, or if they're just

1504
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,840
going to write their own.
And I I don't know how that's

1505
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,880
going to go, but at least we
know we're getting more

1506
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,800
Outlander, at least for, you
know, Brian and Ellen.

1507
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:42,680
But yeah, I I'm okay with with
the hiatus.

1508
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,960
So that means this is what
Episode 4 we're talking about.

1509
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:51,720
So we have four more episodes to
discuss before the hiatus.

1510
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:57,960
We do have Dragon Con coming up.
I am going to be on the

1511
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:02,760
Outlander show panel at Dragon
Con this year again.

1512
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,350
Yay.
So I we'll get to talk about

1513
01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:07,150
that.
They're not talking about the

1514
01:34:07,150 --> 01:34:09,230
books on this panel.
It's just going to be strictly

1515
01:34:09,230 --> 01:34:12,430
show, Which is cool because that
means I don't have to sit here

1516
01:34:12,430 --> 01:34:14,870
and try to rush to read up until
this point.

1517
01:34:15,270 --> 01:34:18,790
But like I like, like you said,
we're not going to go past where

1518
01:34:18,790 --> 01:34:22,430
they are in the show because we
don't want to spoil ourselves,

1519
01:34:22,590 --> 01:34:25,270
even though I've heard like
little bits and pieces of

1520
01:34:25,270 --> 01:34:29,950
spoilers here and there.
Oh, the other other The other

1521
01:34:29,950 --> 01:34:39,380
thing I did see on Twitter is
that Meryl Davis confirmed that

1522
01:34:39,380 --> 01:34:42,220
we will not be seeing Ferguson
Marsley this season.

1523
01:34:43,580 --> 01:34:47,700
Whatever.
I am so hurt.

1524
01:34:48,660 --> 01:34:52,180
I mean, I understand cuz they're
not anywhere where they will be

1525
01:34:52,180 --> 01:34:55,140
a part of the story, but they
need to come back and be a part

1526
01:34:55,140 --> 01:34:57,660
of the story.
I miss them.

1527
01:34:58,940 --> 01:35:04,220
I miss them.
So anyway, I think that's all

1528
01:35:04,220 --> 01:35:12,020
the news I have on that for now,
because again, they're filming.

1529
01:35:12,060 --> 01:35:15,540
Well, actually they are not
filming right now.

1530
01:35:15,540 --> 01:35:20,300
I believe Outlander has halted
their filming in solidarity with

1531
01:35:20,580 --> 01:35:22,940
the SAG actors here in the
States.

1532
01:35:23,820 --> 01:35:25,300
So they're not filming right
now.

1533
01:35:25,300 --> 01:35:29,460
So they're kind of like
somewhere midway between film

1534
01:35:29,460 --> 01:35:34,750
and Season 8.
So I guess that might extend

1535
01:35:35,270 --> 01:35:38,910
when we get Season 8 as well,
depending on how long the

1536
01:35:38,910 --> 01:35:41,150
strike.
Is, yeah.

1537
01:35:41,630 --> 01:35:46,830
But so we'll just once this
hiatus starts we'll have to get

1538
01:35:46,830 --> 01:35:51,750
our our fix somehow.
You know they do have another

1539
01:35:51,750 --> 01:35:56,150
season of men and kilts out so.
Yeah, I thought that was coming

1540
01:35:56,150 --> 01:36:02,020
out.
Yeah, but did we forget anything

1541
01:36:02,020 --> 01:36:05,860
on the episode?
No, we hit all the parts.

1542
01:36:05,900 --> 01:36:10,660
You got Tom, that dog on Tom.
Christy, I tell you, I rewound.

1543
01:36:10,660 --> 01:36:12,100
That that was just so cute
though.

1544
01:36:12,340 --> 01:36:16,100
I mean, it was cuz he the Glee,
right?

1545
01:36:16,140 --> 01:36:20,220
He was so happy.
He was just so happy.

1546
01:36:20,460 --> 01:36:23,540
He was like, I thought, you
know, I wrote the obituary cuz I

1547
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:26,960
I I didn't have a grave to go
to.

1548
01:36:45,480 --> 01:36:48,080
That's what I'm saying, that
actually, considering his

1549
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,360
romantic past probably was like,
you know what?

1550
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:28,760
I wouldn't be able to go to your
grave.

1551
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:31,160
And I was just like, oh, they're
so sweet.

1552
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,000
But it's so sad in a way too,
because you're in love with a

1553
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,840
woman who can never be with you
or who will never be with you.

1554
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:44,760
But and you know what?
That might have been enough to

1555
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:52,080
sustain.
I'm good.

1556
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:55,310
I'm good.
She's she's safe.

1557
01:36:56,070 --> 01:36:59,670
She's happy.
And if anything, he knows that

1558
01:36:59,670 --> 01:37:03,310
Jamie will protect Claire with
with his life so he doesn't have

1559
01:37:03,310 --> 01:37:05,070
to worry about, oh, is she
endangered?

1560
01:37:05,070 --> 01:37:07,630
This, that and other.
He knows Jamie will protect her.

1561
01:37:07,630 --> 01:37:11,710
So that's probably the most
peaceful thing you can have.

1562
01:37:11,710 --> 01:37:14,350
At least you know she's not
she's not under the ground and

1563
01:37:14,350 --> 01:37:18,350
you can walk around knowing, OK,
she's alive, she's breathing.

1564
01:37:18,350 --> 01:37:22,710
I'm good.
So I I hope he can find some

1565
01:37:22,710 --> 01:37:30,830
peace, and I hope he doesn't.
Fall on the horse and he can be

1566
01:37:30,830 --> 01:37:32,950
happy.
He can be happy.

1567
01:37:32,950 --> 01:37:35,390
Now I know there's there's
probably going to be a piece of

1568
01:37:35,390 --> 01:37:41,510
him that struggles because he
doesn't know where Alan is and

1569
01:37:41,510 --> 01:37:44,590
he at this point he probably
will never find out where Alan

1570
01:37:44,590 --> 01:37:46,750
is.
So that's going to be something,

1571
01:37:46,750 --> 01:37:50,150
I think, that'll kind of sit on
his conscience or sit on his

1572
01:37:50,150 --> 01:37:51,710
heart.
But I think for the most part, I

1573
01:37:51,710 --> 01:37:59,180
think Tom Christy is okay.
He he did right by Jamie and

1574
01:37:59,180 --> 01:38:03,860
Claire the way he said he would,
as far as, you know, making sure

1575
01:38:03,860 --> 01:38:06,140
that they were safe.
He did his best to do that.

1576
01:38:06,580 --> 01:38:10,180
And then when Claire was about
to go down or be killed for that

1577
01:38:10,180 --> 01:38:12,660
crime, he was like, I can't do
this because I know it would.

1578
01:38:12,700 --> 01:38:17,100
I know it wasn't you.
So, yeah, Okay.

1579
01:38:17,500 --> 01:38:21,260
Hi, Tom.
Christy, that door is closed.

1580
01:38:22,510 --> 01:38:27,710
So now we have the hunters.
We have William becoming a a

1581
01:38:27,950 --> 01:38:30,750
bigger part of the story, and I
know that that will probably

1582
01:38:30,750 --> 01:38:34,110
increase with all of the stuff
coming up for the American

1583
01:38:34,110 --> 01:38:37,670
Revolution.
We have Jamie, Claire, Ian stuck

1584
01:38:37,670 --> 01:38:42,350
here for the time being for the
war.

1585
01:38:43,590 --> 01:38:50,160
And we've got we've got Roger
and Brianna in the future trying

1586
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:54,640
to figure out what the fuck a
knuckle V is and what is it

1587
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,960
doing in their house and why is
it eating all the crisps?

1588
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:02,160
And you've got Jimmy and Mandy,
Jimmy and Mandy boy, let me tell

1589
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:05,640
you, those two kids, if they
not, it's like one minute

1590
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,080
they're fighting and the next
minute he's being protective of

1591
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:13,670
her.
Yeah, these kids are going to

1592
01:39:13,670 --> 01:39:16,550
drive them crazy because even in
the beginning, when she was

1593
01:39:16,550 --> 01:39:22,590
like, Mandy hit me, she won't
say sorry, Mandy, apologize.

1594
01:39:22,870 --> 01:39:25,270
I won't.
Roger was like I.

1595
01:39:25,310 --> 01:39:26,630
You will.
So I.

1596
01:39:27,430 --> 01:39:31,030
Was like, oh, these kids will
drive me nuts two years, right?

1597
01:39:31,390 --> 01:39:33,070
And then then you going to lock
them up.

1598
01:39:33,310 --> 01:39:36,310
Do you block Mandy up in the
closet in the dungeon room?

1599
01:39:36,310 --> 01:39:38,950
Call it a little dungeon room.
And then she sitting there like

1600
01:39:38,990 --> 01:39:39,870
do it again.
What you just?

1601
01:39:43,190 --> 01:39:45,430
And then one day we're going to
find out about the gold too.

1602
01:39:45,430 --> 01:39:49,590
So you know you are going to
keep on about that gold.

1603
01:39:50,190 --> 01:39:51,990
What?
I just want them to ask him.

1604
01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:55,350
I mean, damn, just ask your kid
instead of just.

1605
01:39:55,870 --> 01:39:57,510
I wonder if we should ask him
now.

1606
01:39:57,550 --> 01:39:58,910
Like now?
It's been a few years.

1607
01:39:59,070 --> 01:40:02,950
Sure, when you're at dinner,
you're talking about nothing.

1608
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:05,830
What?
You just ask him instead of just

1609
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:08,150
wondering.
Y'all just went through all of

1610
01:40:08,150 --> 01:40:11,630
your savings and everything.
You need some money, Brock.

1611
01:40:11,630 --> 01:40:14,030
You're going to need some money.
I mean, I realize that.

1612
01:40:14,190 --> 01:40:17,950
I realize that Brianna has a job
now, but I can almost guarantee

1613
01:40:17,950 --> 01:40:20,270
you they are underpaying her for
that job.

1614
01:40:22,590 --> 01:40:25,110
And then Roger is not doing
anything right now, so they

1615
01:40:25,190 --> 01:40:28,990
probably could.
I'm with you at this point.

1616
01:40:30,030 --> 01:40:35,190
Ask him about the gold.
Ask him about the gold.

1617
01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:41,100
Because then you got to make a
trip to North Carolina.

1618
01:40:41,620 --> 01:40:48,700
You got to go see where phrases.
But you know, I don't know if

1619
01:40:48,700 --> 01:40:55,500
I'm ready to go to a future
Frasers Ridge or a 1980s Frasers

1620
01:40:55,500 --> 01:40:58,820
Ridge because we don't know what
that looks like.

1621
01:40:59,980 --> 01:41:01,860
And I just.
I just don't know because I feel

1622
01:41:01,860 --> 01:41:05,540
like and I guess that's kind of
why Brianna is doing that as

1623
01:41:05,540 --> 01:41:10,020
well, because if she if they
have to go there, then you'll

1624
01:41:10,020 --> 01:41:13,780
have to see the place that you
were just in a few years ago and

1625
01:41:13,780 --> 01:41:16,460
how different it is and things
may be gone.

1626
01:41:16,460 --> 01:41:19,900
And you know of course the the
houses and the settlements are

1627
01:41:19,900 --> 01:41:23,260
probably no longer there.
So that might, yeah that might

1628
01:41:23,260 --> 01:41:26,420
be a bit too much for her.
So I can kind of understand her

1629
01:41:26,420 --> 01:41:31,780
hesitance when opening that that
Pandora's box.

1630
01:41:32,210 --> 01:41:34,810
So, OK, I'll give her a little
leeway on that.

1631
01:41:34,930 --> 01:41:38,250
We'll just wait.
Maybe, Michelle, you know back

1632
01:41:38,250 --> 01:41:41,570
half of the season they'll ask
you about the gold and we'll.

1633
01:41:41,610 --> 01:41:44,530
I just want them to ask.
It's OK we don't even go.

1634
01:41:45,610 --> 01:41:48,450
No, cuz if you ask and you find
out about this gold, you know

1635
01:41:48,450 --> 01:41:51,650
they're going to want to go.
I would want to go.

1636
01:41:51,970 --> 01:41:54,050
I would too.
I'll be like, oh, we take the

1637
01:41:54,050 --> 01:41:56,250
little.
We going to take a little trip,

1638
01:41:56,650 --> 01:41:58,770
right?
Family vacation.

1639
01:41:59,490 --> 01:42:02,550
To the States.
And then also too, if you think

1640
01:42:02,550 --> 01:42:07,270
about it, if they make that kind
of trip going to the States,

1641
01:42:08,470 --> 01:42:10,550
they're not going to leave the
kids with Fiona.

1642
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:12,230
They're going to take the kids
with them.

1643
01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:20,350
And that might be hard for Jim
as well, because he'll he'll

1644
01:42:20,350 --> 01:42:24,470
also have remembered, you know,
he'll remember what Frasers

1645
01:42:24,470 --> 01:42:28,990
Ridge was and then for him to
see it the way it might be now,

1646
01:42:28,990 --> 01:42:33,230
that will probably disturb him
as well, so.

1647
01:42:33,710 --> 01:42:37,110
Yeah, So we'll just tell them to
wait.

1648
01:42:37,110 --> 01:42:39,470
Just just wait on asking about
the go.

1649
01:42:39,670 --> 01:42:42,070
It'll be okay, Michelle.
It'll be okay.

1650
01:42:43,110 --> 01:42:45,390
It'll be okay.
We'll get.

1651
01:42:45,670 --> 01:42:50,230
There by the By the end of this
season or season eight, please

1652
01:42:50,230 --> 01:42:54,530
just have a conversation.
I think they would have to do it

1653
01:42:54,530 --> 01:42:57,650
this season because I feel like
whatever they're doing Season 8.

1654
01:42:58,130 --> 01:43:00,130
It's some totally it's got to
close it.

1655
01:43:00,330 --> 01:43:03,530
It's going to be closing it out.
Yeah, it has to close it.

1656
01:43:03,810 --> 01:43:05,730
Yeah.
Whatever it is that's going on

1657
01:43:05,730 --> 01:43:10,490
with Jamie and Claire to end
their story, I feel like that's

1658
01:43:10,490 --> 01:43:14,010
what the final episodes will
focus on, so.

1659
01:43:14,730 --> 01:43:18,130
Yeah, yeah.
And I agree to that.

1660
01:43:18,130 --> 01:43:20,970
Like we we're doing all the
stories now and then Eight just

1661
01:43:20,970 --> 01:43:27,320
literally is closing.
Yeah, yeah, so that'll be cool.

1662
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:29,920
That'll be cool.
So we just we just have to be a

1663
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:34,120
little patience.
We may have to wait until 2024

1664
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:40,000
to find out about the gold and
the Spaniard, those of Y'all

1665
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:41,520
listed.
You can see the look on

1666
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:45,280
Michelle's face.
I don't know if I can, but okay,

1667
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:49,600
maybe it'll be spring 2024.
I mean, because the the episodes

1668
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,320
are already done.
I don't see them making us wait.

1669
01:43:52,730 --> 01:43:56,010
Another When did this season
come out?

1670
01:43:56,890 --> 01:43:59,650
June.
So maybe next June.

1671
01:44:01,010 --> 01:44:03,450
Maybe next June.
No, don't wait that long.

1672
01:44:03,770 --> 01:44:06,370
I don't agree to it either.
But I'm just saying we only

1673
01:44:06,890 --> 01:44:10,050
have.
So right now, right now, we

1674
01:44:10,050 --> 01:44:15,130
have, what did I say, 6 episodes
out, Five episodes, 6 episodes

1675
01:44:15,130 --> 01:44:16,450
out.
So that means we have two more

1676
01:44:16,450 --> 01:44:18,570
episodes.
So that means by the end of

1677
01:44:18,570 --> 01:44:22,570
July, those episodes will be
done.

1678
01:44:22,570 --> 01:44:26,050
So you got August, September,
October, November, December.

1679
01:44:26,770 --> 01:44:29,770
I would hope that January or
February we would get those new

1680
01:44:29,770 --> 01:44:32,090
episodes.
Y'all don't need to make make us

1681
01:44:32,090 --> 01:44:37,170
wait longer than six months for
a season that is already done

1682
01:44:37,210 --> 01:44:42,210
already.
So let's keep our fingers

1683
01:44:42,210 --> 01:44:43,410
crossed.
It's going to be January or

1684
01:44:43,410 --> 01:44:45,930
February.
It could be, it could be earlier

1685
01:44:45,970 --> 01:44:48,530
if they want, but I know they're
not going to do it during the

1686
01:44:48,530 --> 01:44:52,430
holidays because during the
holidays you always have special

1687
01:44:52,430 --> 01:45:00,350
programming and this than others
so your your your viewing

1688
01:45:00,350 --> 01:45:04,910
schedules are disrupted.
So I would say probably.

1689
01:45:04,910 --> 01:45:10,350
January okay, I go with that.
Okay.

1690
01:45:10,630 --> 01:45:14,990
So you have any final thoughts
on episode 6?

1691
01:45:16,910 --> 01:45:22,690
Just give us the go and OK and
and tell us what's going on with

1692
01:45:22,690 --> 01:45:29,690
Rachel Hunter and the bachelors
on the Ridge, the bachelors of

1693
01:45:29,690 --> 01:45:31,250
the river.
And it's The Bachelors.

1694
01:45:31,770 --> 01:45:34,530
Yes.
I don't think it's Williams time

1695
01:45:34,530 --> 01:45:36,210
right now.
That's not what William have to

1696
01:45:36,210 --> 01:45:38,850
go through right now.
He may fall in love with Rachel

1697
01:45:38,850 --> 01:45:41,690
for a second, but it Rachel
belongs to Ian.

1698
01:45:42,050 --> 01:45:43,690
OK, so it's not his time to
shop.

1699
01:45:43,690 --> 01:45:45,930
It's not his time.
His time is to figure out, you

1700
01:45:45,930 --> 01:45:50,050
know, find out about this day.
OK, So you know, he has to go

1701
01:45:50,050 --> 01:45:52,450
through that.
Yeah, I have feeling that's

1702
01:45:52,450 --> 01:45:55,890
going to be explosive.
So with that being said, that's

1703
01:45:55,930 --> 01:45:58,330
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1704
01:45:58,330 --> 01:46:02,490
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1705
01:46:02,490 --> 01:46:06,440
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1709
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1710
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