Outlander S7E6 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #319

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Michelle and we are
catching up with our Outlander

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episodes.
We are talking about Outlander

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Season 7 Episode 6.
Part 1.

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It's been a minute since we've
discussed Outlander.

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Well, it's a podcast.
We we did have a couple of

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panels at Dragon Con last
weekend that were fun.

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And I have caught up on all the
books and that makes watching

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the show now a little
interesting because I see what

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they've pulled out and what
they've kind of changed.

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And I'm like, how are they about
to finish this in, in the back

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half of season 7 and season 8?
I have a lot of questions.

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Yeah, because they I do too.
But Michelle has not read the

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books yet.
Sorry, everyone.

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That's OK 'cause we, we gonna
get it done before Season 8

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starts, right?
That's what we said.

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Wait, wait me, when is season 8
coming out?

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Probably not until 2026 at.
This Oh yeah, I got time.

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Yeah, I I got time.
I'm sorry.

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I'm like, oh, we still got to
get Part 2.

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I have time.
Yeah, we still have what it is

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probably about 70 something days
till Droughtlanders over.

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So yeah, November 22nd is when
the second-half of Season 7 is

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coming back.
Season 8 is, I think Katrina was

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on a press junket this weekend
for her new movie that's coming

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out.
And she said that she has about

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a month of filming left for
Season 8 and then it's going for

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Lauren Lyle Marsley.
She's already done.

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She already posted her goodbye
to Marsley post.

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And I was like.
And this is for season 8.

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Oh wow.
So then season 8 can come out

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next year.
Maybe, but I mean it, I don't

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know.
I, I, I think I'm saying 2026 so

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that when we finally get the
date and it, if it is 2026, I'm

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not so disappointed because.
I'm you know, from drought

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Lander, it's going to be 2026.
So we just yeah, even if we get

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if it's and.
If they.

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Say finished now.
Then we'll just.

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There'll be a bonus.
And we'll just be happy.

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But right.
Now and it look it'll be a

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bonus.
Yeah, I'm putting it in my mind

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2026 right now, but that's a
long time to wait because I

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mean, I didn't realize that it's
been a year since the first part

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of season. 7 ended.
I haven't.

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I didn't realize that either.
I didn't.

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And it's, it's like these cable
shows I'm I'm, I'm trying to

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stay involved, I'm trying to
stay invested.

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There's no chance of me losing
interest in Outlander.

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But still y'all pushing the
envelope a lot because it's a

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lot of time in between these two
parts, which I understand they

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gave us extra episodes for
season 7.

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Takes a lot longer to film, edit
all of that stuff.

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And I'm just kind of like.
Can can we?

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I know and it's it's hard to
because they're ending it and

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the books are not finished and
that caused me stress.

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So we're doing a little
crossover here guys.

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If you didn't know anything
about Game of Thrones.

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See that causes me stress
because I need them to end it

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right?
Even though the books are not

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done.
Right now, I do know Diana

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Gabaldon has said on her
Facebook page because someone

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asked about whether or not she
has told them how she plans to

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end the books.
And I think right now she

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doesn't even know for sure how
she's ending the books.

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I think one of the ladies on our
panel last weekend stated that

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she has made mention once or
twice that there may end up

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being an 11th book.
We don't know.

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Oh my goodness.
She said that she has given them

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some notes on things that
happened in Book 10, and I'm

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assuming those are things that
are relating to the show.

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Because like I said, there are
certain things that up till this

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point, like we have William
already at Fort Ticonderoga, we

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have the rebels who have already
escaped, and Claire has gotten

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captured.
So there are certain things in

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the books that should have
happened at this point, but

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they've not mentioned those.
Like one of the characters that

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we see now, he actually is, he's
playing a dual role.

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Like he's supposed to be another
character that's mentioned in

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the books that has something to
do with some another plot point.

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But I don't see how they're
going to tie that in now because

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they didn't introduce the other
character, the other version of

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the character he's playing.
So it's just kind of like, I

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don't know, I think they're
they're taking bits and pieces

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of storyline and I think they're
going to keep some of the most

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important stuff like the Roger
and Bree stuff.

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Of course, the stuff with
William, because we see him a

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lot more in this episode as
well.

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And I think we're going to start
seeing more of him because in

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the later books, the story
really heavily involves him.

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Like you see Claire's point of
view and you had Jamie stuff,

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but William takes up a good part
of the real estate in books 7-8

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and 9:00.
So and So what can happen is we

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can always have a spin off where
we take care of William on the

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side, but what I need to happen
at the end is for Claire and

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Jamie to die together.
Like this is the notebook, OK.

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And from that, and they're
older, so then she can write as

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music books as she want.
Because we don't know what

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happened from a certain point
where they flash forward to them

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died in the bed.
So some things could have

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happened in between.
We don't know.

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That's in those, you know, book
10:00 and 11:00.

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But they die, they die together.
1 cannot exist without the

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other.
Yeah, I do.

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I do feel like that, like.
Right.

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They they die in each other's
arms, yeah.

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Especially so the last three
days, I think some someone

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mentioned, I think it was Lisa.
Hi, Lisa.

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If you're listening, I think
Lisa mentioned on the show panel

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at the time, I think there was
like 83 days left in

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Droughtlander.
And she said, you know what?

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She said there would be exact
number of days in Droughtlander

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as there are episodes of the
show.

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So if you start watching from
Season 1, episode 1 today and

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watch one episode per day, you
will watch the show all the way

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up to November 22nd, which is
when 7B premieres.

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It's like, oh, OK, I think I'm
going to do that.

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And then I didn't do it for the
first couple of days because

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post Dragon Con, I'm sitting
here trying to, you know, get

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back, get back into the swing of
things.

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So yesterday I finished
yesterday, but Saturday, Sunday,

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yes.
Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

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Actually, I watched all of
Season 1.

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Well, most of Season 1 I watched
everything but the Wentworth

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prison stuff because no.
I can't do that.

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I had to fast.
So I've seen those scenes I

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think maybe twice or three times
total, and I forgot how brutal

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they were.
So it's like.

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I'm yeah it the.
Start of it and that first

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assault, I was like, Oh no.
No, I still I'm like to me it

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will be my 4th time and it's
still every time is the same

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feeling so I don't need to watch
it again.

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I get it.
Fast forwarded, I get it.

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I was.
Like.

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OK, that's for.
OK, well, and I heard, I heard

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her say it before
Procrastinator.

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That doesn't work.
OK, I need to wait for two weeks

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before Part 2 come out and try
to cram me in.

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I'm not doing that kind of thing
anymore because trying to read 3

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Outlander books 3 weeks before
Dragon Con.

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But you did it.
I did it, but I have not done

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that kind of power reading in so
long.

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And it was like Echo through the
Echo in the Bone was kind of

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slow getting through written in
my own heart's blood.

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I did that in one day and I
don't know what it was about.

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That's like, there were a lot of
moving pieces and there were a

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lot of fast moving pieces.
So that book was a breeze.

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Bees was a little bit more slow
because you're still telling all

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these different stories.
But she also is a very

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descriptive writer and there are
some parts where I was just

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like, I don't need all this.
I don't need all this detail.

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Just tell me what's going on
with this person, this person.

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But I really did enjoy reading
the books.

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And so now I'm sitting there
going through the website and

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going through everything like,
oh, we're the daily lines for

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book 10.
Like I need, I feel like I, I

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feel like I'm like going through
withdraw.

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I feel like a junkie.
I need some more book 10 stuff.

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I need more like there's certain
characters and certain things.

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I'm just like.
To see it.

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And I'm not getting enough of it
in the show at this point.

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But we're still early.
We're still, we're still in the

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first part of Season 7.
Hopefully stuff will start

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picking up with certain things
November 22nd once we get the

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episodes back.
OK, yes.

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OK, that's.
OK, so OK, so where we're at

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Episode 6 episode.
Six, we're not going to order

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cause I am playing in the
background and I have some, I

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got some stuff I need to say.
We need to talk about your your

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screen name and this time
travelers guy and how.

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Doggone how do you write a book,
write a journal for your

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children?
I get it, you want them to

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understand the insurance and
outs of time travel.

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You want to write it down.
How are you not paying attention

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to what you are doing with this
book to the point where this

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creepy ass Rob Cameron gets his
hand on it?

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Yeah, yeah.
But I get it.

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I get it.
It's frustrating because.

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There's so much information he's
putting in the in this journal

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because it's for Jim and it's
for Mandy.

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It's for them to understand
where they come from, the

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experiences that they may go
through if they decide to go

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back, whatever the case may be,
just to understand more of who

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they are.
Mandy's not going to remember

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anything 'cause she was a baby
when she came through the

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stones, But Jim remembers a lot.
Yeah, they still need to ask me

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about the the treasure, but OK,
I'll leave that alone.

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I don't know if they do 'cause
he might write it down

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somewhere.
And then, yeah.

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And then it'd be gone.
But I mean, even in this episode

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you have Roger going to the
school to teach Gaelic.

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First of all, the teacher who
sat there and did Jimmy's ear

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because he cussed at her and
Gaelic, I was like, OK, first of

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all, this was definitely the
80s.

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Because you can't do that shit
now.

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No, can't touch him.
Can't touch him.

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Can't touch him.
Rodger goes into the school to

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teach, you know, to teach a
class on the Gaelic because it's

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something that the current
inhabitants of Scotland have

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been trying to kind of like, you
know, push out of the way and

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not have their kids growing up
knowing their language, knowing

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their history.
Rodger goes to the school.

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OK, fine.
While you're sitting there

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writing your book and you're
talking with your wife, you move

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the book over here to your stack
of hymnals and you go do

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something on the shelf.
And then you're reminded, oh,

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you're running late.
Hey, can you pack my bag?

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Put that stuff in?
Like, she just grabs the stack,

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which again, I understand she
didn't know.

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But then when you were getting
ready to pass these hymnals out,

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Roger, did you not feel that
hardcover book?

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Yeah.
In the midst of all of these

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thin hymnals you had.
And you didn't think, huh?

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Why is that so heavy?
Like then for Rob Cameron of all

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people to get this thing and
come up to Roger, like, oh, you

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writing a little bit of the
science fiction I like that was

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like something there's something
I write about the dude.

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No, there's something not at all
right about him.

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But I almost, it almost feels
like, do you think maybe you

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already knew something?
I kind of wondered that because

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they when when they were having
a conversation and he said

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something to Roger about loving
the class and he was like, Oh,

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yeah, I love all the old stuff.
I don't know if maybe that's

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just me being ultra perceptive
or maybe it's because I mean,

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because I know a little bit
about what happens, of course,

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because I read the books.
But even in the books, it's not

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really clear that he knows
something, knows something.

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It's just that he's very weird.
Like in this episode when he's

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having the conversation with
Rodger and he's, you know,

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they're talking about Brianna
and Rogers.

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Basically just let him know,
look, I know you want them

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fuckers that was messing with my
wife and Rob is coming off all

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night.
So yes, she's the best

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supervisor we've ever had.
And he starts telling his sob

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story about his sister being a
widow and he's, you know, taking

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care of Bobby for her.
And you know this he starts,

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they start having a conversation
about the home cooked meal.

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He basically invites himself
over like, oh, we should do that

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one day.
I would love home cooked meal.

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I was like, does that.
And then again I had to remember

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this is in the 80s.
People did that all the time.

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You had.
You had.

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The kind of thing where you went
to someone's, you know, you went

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to someone's house unannounced
without calling, just knocked on

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the door.
Hey, how you I have to remember

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that that's the time that
they're in because you

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definitely don't do that now.
No, but I I, I still think maybe

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he does like old things and then
research.

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He came across like someone
writing about that and then bam,

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he sees this book, right?
Or he already like target them.

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It just feels a little funny.
It does it, and I don't know if

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I feel like it's that he knows,
because in this conversation he

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almost feels like he's being a
little flirty with Roger.

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So sick.
Because he's just being slimy

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and he's trying to ease his
weight into a relationship,

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which is why I feel like he
knows something or that was a, a

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target.
That's why I feel that way.

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It wasn't like he was kind of
like, hey, nice to meet you.

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And then later sees the book
reading and be like, oh, hey,

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can I come over for dinner type
of thing.

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But he started off the
relationship like being close

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into his space and everything
so.

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But again, 80s that nobody cared
about personal space back then.

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It was just that's that's kind
of how you were.

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You were in someone's face
talking.

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And yeah, I guess he just, he's.
The weird guy.

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He it is, and it's something
about the it's something about

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his mannerisms.
Because.

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He seems, he seems overly
aggressive, but also not so much

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so it's, it's like a weird thing
he does and it just, it makes

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you feel uncomfortable, like,
oh, I don't know if I want this

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man around my child.
I don't know if I want this man

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around, you know, it's just I, I
don't know, there there's

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something, there's something not
quite right about this man.

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And again, like I said, I know,
I know for Roger, it was a, it

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was a, it was a mistake, you
know, putting the book in there,

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but you're coming from the past,
you are putting this stuff down

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on paper.
And I think we had this

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conversation, if not on this
podcast, I think we've had it

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like in person talking or even
during the panels last week.

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It's like at a certain point,
you have to be more mindful of

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the things that you are doing
because even though, yes, you're

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doing this in the comfort of
your own home, you're doing it

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and you know, around people who
already know this information,

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mistakes happen, carelessness
happens.

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And I think they've probably
just gotten too comfortable

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because why would you have that?
Again, I know it was an accident

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it getting into the hymnals, but
there was something that should

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have told you that something
wasn't right when you, like I

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said, when you picked it up and
told Jim to pass it out,

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something should have told you
something that feels like a book

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in between these sheets of
papers.

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I mean, we've all taken
elementary school music.

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We know how thin those the sheet
was a kid.

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But I'm and but I the only
reason why I'm not trashing him

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because I've done that a few
times having stuff within other

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paperwork and be like that was
meant to be there.

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However, again and then they
pass it out in the class.

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That's why it's so confusing
like you should have.

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You should be able to see that
he reading your book.

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Right, if you're paying
attention.

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So I don't know.
I just, I just.

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It's not like he it's a class
class class full.

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Right.
I mean, there's not a lot of

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people there, but I, I just feel
like, I feel like they're

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getting too comfortable.
You know, it's one thing I think

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when you're in the past and
you're from the future, because

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you're always being mindful of
what you're saying, what you're

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doing to make sure people don't
know that you're.

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Different in that sense.
And when you're reading it, it

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doesn't sound like a fiction,
right, 'cause that's the

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problem, 'cause you can't even
say, oh, me and my kids are

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making up.
We're creating this time travel.

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They really in the time travel.
Right, 'cause you're really

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saying your grandmother, your
grandfather, your granddaddy,

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you know, and it's, it's very
oddly specific as far as you

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know, the thing with the Ley
lines and the stones and like

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it's very, very specific so.
I I think them being in the

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present has made them a little
bit careless because they're in

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their own time now.
They don't have to have certain

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things except for, of course,
talking about the past, you

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know, Rodger talking about where
he picked up a lot of his Gaelic

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and, you know, having to talk
about his father-in-law.

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And I think the idea is that
they're telling everybody, you

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know, of course, the Breeze
parents are dead.

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So it's just they're walking a
very thin rope.

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And I need them to be more
careful because again, this Rob

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camera don't seem like he on the
up and up.

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With.
That and then on top of all of

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this, now you have a visitor at
the end of the episode, we find

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out who this knuckle of it is,
and it's the same motherfucker

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that tried to hang Roger or
getting Roger hang and not even

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try.
It's the same motherfucker that

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had Rodger Hayne.
Rodger, Hayne.

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Which is his 5-6 times great
grandfather.

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I was like, wait, how in the
world?

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But then again, like we talked
about it last weekend, he's gave

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us his son.
So it it, it's coming down on

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that, you know, on that, that
side of the family, but it's

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like, oh, y'all are about to
have some issues.

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Now, right, Which that's that's
the part that's amazing that I

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want her to write more about
later.

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What about about Buck coming
through?

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Just the, just like how it
works, there's a time travel and

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then it just being, Yep, being
passed on, right?

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Because of course Rodger has it.
He can do it.

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Jim Mandy and Brianna Clear.
But you know, so I know that she

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does, she does describe it from
different points of view in the

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book.
Like, we hear Buck's version of

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what happened and we, I think,
you know, you get him telling

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the tale of how he ended up
there, which I'm sure is going

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to be weird for him because at
least with Rodger and Bree, when

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they went back, they did that
intentionally.

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They knew what they were going
to do because they knew it had

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been done before, because they
had experience.

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Can you imagine being someone
from the 1700s who probably has

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no earthly idea that this type
of thing exists and you find

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yourself in the 1980s?
Like going backwards, I think

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will be easier because we have
history, we have history books.

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We, we can do our research, we
can read about the times.

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And you know, that's kind of
what Claire and Brianna have

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done the whole time that they
were there.

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They, they knew certain things
that were going to happen.

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They knew certain inventions,
like, OK, this will be invented

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here.
So but we may be able to do this

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over here.
You know, they, they walk the

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fine Rd. they walked the fine
line, but they were as careful

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as they could be with people who
were trying to do, you know,

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innovative stuff in the 1700s.
But to go forward and you have

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no information about what you're
walking into.

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You have no way of knowing
what's coming for you, what to

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expect.
Like, I can't even imagine what

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this man is going through.
And then to see the person that

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you thought you had hung and
that's the person who greets

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you.
I'm I'm having a feeling that

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he's a little, he's a little
spooked.

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Right now, right.
And the and the thing about it

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is it's like again, how does it
work?

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Like you didn't he didn't go
back, he went forward.

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So then it's even with them
going forward too, cause to save

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the baby Manny.
But like, what do they think?

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Like you have to think and then
shall it be?

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Because at that point, what was
he thinking about?

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Was he still thinking about
Roger and his wife?

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And was there even something
going on between them that

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pushed them forward?
Like what type?

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You know, you understand what
I'm saying, 'cause he couldn't

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went at any time, but he went
where Roger is.

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It's just kind of, that's what's
interesting.

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And I don't want it to be used
as just like a plot device.

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But to me, it has to be like
something that pulls them back

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and forth 'cause I may touch the
stones, Ding, and I'm gonna go

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back and I go forward.
If you go back to the beginning

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of the story, how did Claire end
up in the 1700s?

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Because she wasn't thinking
about anybody in particular.

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You know, but we already know,
OK, in our minds and in our

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hearts, we knew that she needed
to go back because she was tired

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to Jamie.
That's why she went back.

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She was, she was questioning her
love and wanting a love and

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that's what took her there
'cause she was listening.

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Because she was happy with.
Frank, was she really?

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She was content.
And happy OK, if you yes, OK.

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You know, I'm saying there's a
difference with that passionate

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love she had, the content love
that would have carried her on

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and they actually would have
been happy if she didn't go

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back, you know what I'm saying?
They would had each other, they

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would have made each other
happy.

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She would have went to medical
school, but then she had that

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passionate love.
Yeah.

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Or.
You know what?

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I can't breathe, love.
Miss Miss Misses Graham reading

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her lines, her palm lines, and
saying, hey, I see two marriages

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here that could have.
Been right and like, who would I

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be married to?
Like would it be a different

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type of love?
And that sent her to Jamie could

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get that yeah, I get.
I give it.

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Yeah.
But here I don't get how he

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ended up in future.
But that's neither here nor

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there.
He's he's, he's there.

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We may find that out, we'll see.
But I mean.

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Are you telling me we're going
to find that out?

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Hint.
Hint.

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Or you.
Don't I'm, I'm talking, I'm

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talking purely in the show now,
because again, there's so much

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that they left out from the
books that I don't know where

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they're going to go with the
story because.

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OK, but in the books do we find
out why?

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Yes, that's why I said.
You that's why I said you need

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to read because.
No, I'm going to ask you when

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we're done.
I just want to know that part.

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You know how I like how the
science work?

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I must.
I'm still a scientist at heart.

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I like how the science work.
I need to know.

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Well, OK, so we don't find out.
I won't say we find out the

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science, but we do find out kind
of what was going on in his mind

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and what.
Which will lend to how he

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travels, which to me is the
science of it.

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So that's what I need, OK,
That's what I don't.

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Me convince her she don't need
spoilers if.

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She That's not a major spoiler.
She.

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Needs to read the book, no?
Yeah, it is.

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But he was thinking, yeah, that
that I don't think he's he's

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important.
He ain't the most important

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character for me.
I'll tell you later.

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I'll tell you later, but and
again, I I just realized that we

446
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,080
are talking about this like we
already know who he is, but they

447
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,920
don't actually reveal who he is
until the next episode.

448
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:55,440
But if you look at the credits,
I think it tells you who he is.

449
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,320
So it.
Does.

450
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,080
And I was like, why did they
recast?

451
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,000
They kind of kept Graham
Mctavish in that role because he

452
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,360
was he was the one who actually
had Rodger hung.

453
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,560
But they have cast him for the
second part of Season 7, I

454
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,800
think, or he's in Season 8.
So I know that we're going to be

455
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,960
doing some flashback stuff.
So I was like, OK, if we're

456
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,680
getting him back in flashbacks,
then I'm good with him not

457
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,800
being.
But I think it would have been

458
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,600
interesting to have him.
But yeah, so.

459
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,680
So now Rodger has a stranger who
who is showing up at his house.

460
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,560
The stranger in my.
House.

461
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,560
And then he's dealing with the
Rob Cameron weirdness, which is,

462
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:53,120
yeah, again, that dude creeps me
out, but I already know we'll

463
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,800
find out more about him in the
next episode, so we're not going

464
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,800
to waste a lot of time with him.
He's creepy.

465
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,440
I'm just going to say that.
Yeah, he is.

466
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,080
And I'm going to say something
that's controversial right now.

467
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,800
Really.
Sometimes I do get tired of

468
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,560
Jamie and Claire, OK?
That's a fairpoint.

469
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,600
I I do OK y'all love Conker's
all.

470
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,080
I'm just getting tired of it,
OK?

471
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,560
That, I mean, it's a, it's a
fairpoint.

472
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,280
I mean, they go through a lot of
drama.

473
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,480
They do, and I need death. 50
million times, which there is a

474
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,320
thing in the book, I will say
this, there is a thing in the

475
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,160
book where I think like a
fortune teller or something when

476
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:44,320
Jamie was young told him you
will basically he has he has the

477
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,000
lives like a cat.
She basically told him he will

478
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,440
die nine times before his final
death before his final death.

479
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,840
So it's like a big thing.
In the building.

480
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Right.
Well, in the books they actually

481
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,760
he's like, yeah, is this time
and this time and this time and

482
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,480
this time.
No, that time doesn't count.

483
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,640
OK, then it's all so they do it.
It is like a running thread in

484
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,800
the books.
I.

485
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,600
Don't think that's
controversial.

486
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,560
I do think people would disagree
with you because I know that

487
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,640
there are a lot of people who
actually don't like the Rodger

488
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,800
and Brianna dynamic.
Dynamic which I don't understand

489
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,680
because.
People, I'm gonna be honest with

490
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,240
you on that one.
But even though I said I get

491
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,400
tired of Jamie and Claire, no, I
really absolutely love them and

492
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,240
I want everyone to have a love
like them.

493
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,320
But I don't see it for with with
Roger and Bran.

494
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,640
No, I don't.
They don't.

495
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,240
OK.
Their love is fine.

496
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,920
But it's not.
Like it's, it's not it's it's

497
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,760
not that they're OK, OK, they're
they're What about Marsley?

498
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,920
And Fergus, because we are
getting them.

499
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,520
I love that love.
I do love that love.

500
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,720
We are getting them back and I'm
like, OK, Because I will say

501
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,720
that has been the most
disappointing thing for me for

502
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,240
Season 7 was that we weren't
getting any Marsley and

503
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,440
Ferguson.
There's a lot that happens with

504
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,360
Marsley and Ferguson in the
books.

505
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,920
I don't know how much of that
they're going to bring to the

506
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,360
show because if I'm not
mistaken, I think season 8 only

507
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,240
has like 8 episodes.
It's a very short season.

508
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,240
So I'm like, first of all, you
are discounting a whole book

509
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,760
that, yeah, you know, ends the
series and then you're giving us

510
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,080
a short and 8th season.
And like I said, there's a shit

511
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,520
ton of stuff that they have.
Now.

512
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,680
And I, I feel like I already
know based on what I've read, I

513
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,240
kind of know what they're going
to cut out.

514
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,000
Some of it I'm OK with and some
of it I'm like, no, I really

515
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,880
don't need them to cut.
Well, I won't say anything with

516
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,880
William, but there's a lot that
happens with William that I

517
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,280
really want to see it now.
I already have a feeling one of

518
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,000
his main storylines is not going
to make it, but I really need to

519
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,240
see more of him because I'm
actually liking the portrayal of

520
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,360
his character.
Like, you have it.

521
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:16,120
You have this guy who is very
much a soldier, very much loyal

522
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:21,680
to his people, his country.
And then you see him in this

523
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,440
episode, he comes across Claire
remembers, Claire realizes that

524
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,760
she's a rebel but still does
what he can to, you know,

525
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,600
prioritize what she's asking for
as a prisoner.

526
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,440
You know, she's trying to get
food for the other prisoners.

527
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,400
She's trying to get medical
supplies.

528
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:46,000
And he's doing his best to help
her, not knowing that she, I

529
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,240
guess, in for all intents and
purposes, is his stepmother.

530
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,560
But she, he remembers her enough
from the visit to Fraser's Ridge

531
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:59,040
where she saved Lord John from
his measles outbreak to say, OK,

532
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,120
you know what?
I'm going to do what I need to

533
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,360
do for her.
And then you have him coming

534
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,600
across Ian, who, again, he does
not realize he's his cousin, but

535
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,360
it's somebody who he has had a
pleasant interaction with Ian,

536
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,760
helped save his life.
But now you realize until that

537
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,120
this person that you've come to
respect is also a rebel.

538
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,760
And now you're having to kind of
straddle the fence because your

539
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,160
duty tells you these are rebels,
They should be prisoners.

540
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,440
But when the fighting starts
breaking out at Fort Ticonderoga

541
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,120
because Jamie is trying to get
Claire out.

542
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,200
So he's like, causing a
distraction.

543
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,200
You have William, like, I guess
I can let you go.

544
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,200
I mean, Ian also says, hey, you
owe me a life.

545
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,640
Yeah.
So I'm, it's my under taking her

546
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,560
with me.
But still this kind of like the

547
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,240
the struggle that you're going
to see with William as a loyal

548
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,720
British subject, as a loyal
soldier, and then having these

549
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,480
people who he's had experience
with in his life and trying to

550
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,600
reconcile the fact that these
good people are rebels, you

551
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,679
know, because this time, you
know, the way he's been talking,

552
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,920
we're going to, we're going to
stamp out the rebel, you know,

553
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,239
the rebellion.
These people are blah, blah,

554
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,199
blah stuff.
He was saying to Brianna when he

555
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,960
met her.
And now it's like, oh, wait, I

556
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,400
actually know some of these
people.

557
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,040
And these people are good
people.

558
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,920
They're decent people.
I'm very curious to see how that

559
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,199
journey is going to play out on
screen.

560
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,360
So I need more William, but I
don't have a lot of time to do

561
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,000
it with.
No, you, you don't. 8 episodes

562
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,679
in the back half of this 7th
season and then maybe 8 episodes

563
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,679
for season 8.
And that's just a guess, it

564
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:53,520
could be as low as 6.
I hope not because you know how

565
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,400
I feel about 6 episode.
Seasons, but yeah, 'cause it's

566
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,920
the stuff gets rushed but.
And this story is so like these

567
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,720
books are 900 something page
books.

568
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,080
You can't say a lot of stuff.
There are characters that we

569
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,440
should have been introduced to
by now.

570
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,360
They have not even made an
appearance.

571
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,360
So again, I feel like those
those storylines have been

572
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,720
scrubbed, which is fine as long
as these storylines move forward

573
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:24,160
in a way that makes sense.
It's going to be really

574
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,880
interesting to see how they do
this, this stuff with Brianna

575
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,160
and Roger and what's going on
there.

576
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:41,160
Because Rob Cameron, in the
books, you, I'm trying to think

577
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,520
who is a character?
Tell us how you really feel

578
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,160
he's.
Nicholas from The Walking.

579
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,480
Dead.
Yes.

580
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,120
He's one of those characters
where you read him and the whole

581
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,000
time you're reading, you wish
you could slip your fingers

582
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,040
through the parade, through the
pages of the book and just

583
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,760
throttle him because he gets
more and more annoying and more

584
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,840
and more weird and then shit
hits the fat and it's just kind

585
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,320
of like.
So I hope they keep all of that

586
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:24,800
show because the characters just
and it, I mean, honestly, that

587
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,000
story and where it leads, it is
a good distraction from Jamie

588
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,120
and Claire.
Right.

589
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:35,960
I mean, and and again, I love
them, but he can't get tiring

590
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:39,040
that, you know, we shall always
overcome.

591
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,920
Yeah, I get kidnapped and you're
going to find me no matter what.

592
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,240
So now at the point when you get
into a relationship, everyone,

593
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,960
we got to have a checklist.
OK, All right, So something

594
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,000
happens to me.
Are you willing to, you know, go

595
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,040
through the trenches, kill some,
kill some people to get to me

596
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,440
and to save my life?
If that's a no, we have a

597
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,760
problem.
Bye bye.

598
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,480
OK, can you weather the storm
when a girl pretend to have my

599
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,120
baby?
Can you weather the?

600
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,720
Storm.
Can you weather the storm when

601
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:17,880
you have to go?
Back murder of saying girl.

602
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,040
That baby, can you weather storm
when you have to go back to your

603
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,760
original timeline?
Live with, live with a partner?

604
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,560
Did you clearly want to close
your eyes and pretend that you

605
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,960
with your previous partner?
Yep, can do all you can to get

606
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,880
back.
And that's not even to talk

607
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,680
about all the stuff that went on
in Season 1.

608
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,920
Correct.
Even there's times when you

609
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,000
actually did want to pull a gun
out and kill them yourself.

610
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,520
Yeah.
But you didn't.

611
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,560
Yeah.
Then at the end of the evening,

612
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,480
every episode, we have the end
of the evening bed talk.

613
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,280
I love you.
I love you too.

614
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,760
To the end.
That's why they need to just die

615
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,200
together.
I, I mean, I, I'm not going to

616
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,560
say you're wrong.
I'm not going to say you're

617
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,680
wrong, but you know.
A man that will you get

618
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,680
attacked, assaulted.
He didn't even ask questions.

619
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,520
He killed, everybody around
killed.

620
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,360
Them all slanga.
You're not condoning this in

621
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,760
real life.
We're just saying.

622
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,800
We're just saying.
But I mean, if you think about

623
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,960
it back then, especially back
then 1700s, I mean, we see this

624
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,920
from when Claire gets taken.
They don't even have proper

625
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,360
judges right now because of
everything that's going on with

626
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,200
the war, with the rebellion,
people getting tarred and

627
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,840
feathered.
I mean, we saw.

628
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,200
And even with, like, the
governor having to flee, you

629
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,240
know, 'cause they were chasing
after him and everything, Yeah,

630
00:38:57,240 --> 00:39:03,360
it's like, unfortunately, back
then, people sometimes had to

631
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,960
meet out their own justice.
Right, they did.

632
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,720
Nothing wrong with that, but
they love perseveres.

633
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,080
That's all I have.
I have to say it it, it

634
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,200
perseveres.
We should say sometimes you want

635
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,320
to see some drama with with just
drama, you just want to see a

636
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,120
drama.
You want the Outlander soap

637
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,600
opera.
No, they, they just love.

638
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,920
Just persevere.
They should just say, you know

639
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,160
what I mean?
At this point, if something

640
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,640
happened to me, I'd be like, I'm
not concerned.

641
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,760
He'll be here in a week.
Right.

642
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,840
And just like the whole thing,
I, I think it was in this season

643
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,640
or it may have been the last.
No, it was this season.

644
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,360
I think when Jamie said he had
the the gemstone, right when he

645
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,600
was trying to tell Claire she
could go with Bree and Rodger.

646
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,360
Yeah, he had, he had the, he had
the gemstone and he was like,

647
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,360
just in case you wanted to go,
he was like, you know, I I don't

648
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,680
want to live without you, but if
you need to go with that one,

649
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,240
threw that thing out the window,
like, excuse me, I'm not going

650
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:09,240
anywhere.
Yeah, like we're not.

651
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:09,840
What?
What?

652
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,240
What point would that be?
None.

653
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,440
And then also too, he keeps
telling her if something happens

654
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,680
to me, I want you to go back
through the stones.

655
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,880
For what?
Well, I I guess now because.

656
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,920
OK, now, I mean, come on, are
they to go back to?

657
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,680
Yeah, see your see your kid and
her grandkids.

658
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,680
I get that.
Because if Jamie is not there, I

659
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:36,480
mean, Claire has adapted enough
that I think she could probably

660
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,800
live on her own.
But Claire still got that mouth.

661
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,160
She still got that 20.
Yeah, she might as well go.

662
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,160
She might as well go and and
and, you know, babysit her

663
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480
grandkids.
That's I'm just saying she don't

664
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,920
need to stay, right.
But they have lived a life.

665
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,240
I feel like they have lived two
different lives like 2 complete

666
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:03,240
different lives and they with
their lives was apart right

667
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:05,640
Their lives that was apart and
then their lives together and

668
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,520
they were full lives.
So them dying earlier together,

669
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,960
it just will be well-rounded.
But you know sometimes just get

670
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,760
sick and like OK I know you love
her, I know you love him.

671
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:23,160
I understand.
I get it.

672
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,440
I mean, he got Agps on her.
Like you find her no matter

673
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,960
what.
You find him no matter what I

674
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,560
have.
Theories about that, but it's

675
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,240
book related, so I have to tell
you about that later.

676
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:37,600
Again, they tethered together in
this world.

677
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,000
I mean, I, I kind of feel like
it has to be that way because.

678
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,520
Yeah, I do.
I, I, I I'm making fun.

679
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,720
But they are tethered together.
I think that's why she ended up

680
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:48,800
with him.
Right.

681
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,960
But because other than that, how
do you explain?

682
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,480
Again, we're going back to the
Season 1, Episode 1.

683
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,080
How do you explain the ghost?
Because that was very clearly a

684
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,040
young Jamie.
That was Jamie with his curls.

685
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,720
That was Jamie with the beret,
that was Jamie with the the

686
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:09,600
tartan and the kill, you know,
and we don't really see that

687
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,520
Jamie anymore.
But I mean, he was very, it was

688
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,440
very clearly the young version
of him.

689
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,360
I have a theory.
I kind of wonder if maybe like,

690
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,120
you know, how he dreams about
the children.

691
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,840
That's what I was about to say.
That's my theory.

692
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:31,200
Also, if I remember correctly, a
few seasons ago, he asked Claire

693
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,920
about Bree.
He asked her if she had a

694
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,440
birthmark in a specific place.
And Claire was like, yes, she

695
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,520
does.
And he said I had a dream about

696
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,960
her.
So I'm wondering if, and and

697
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,840
again, I don't know how it is
because it's kind of one of

698
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,800
those things like what came
first, the chicken or the egg?

699
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,920
Did Jamie dream of Claire and
then Claire ended up going back?

700
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,440
Or was Claire always destined to
go back?

701
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,040
And that is one of those things
where I don't we probably find

702
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,560
out until the bad book.
You won't, and I feel like it's

703
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:11,400
a dream, but then he's projected
himself to where he's dreaming

704
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,120
and it's possible because we've
given in.

705
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,400
So it was also it was Halloween,
remember?

706
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,160
And, and where the there's a
thin line, right?

707
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,280
Yeah.
The, the my thing is, it's time

708
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560
travel.
So we, we can't discount

709
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,480
anything.
Yeah, but Jamie and all these

710
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,960
time travelers running into each
other, you know, I'm just

711
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,000
saying.
So, but, you know, my next on my

712
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,000
list is Ian.
I just need him to find the same

713
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,320
type of love.
Yes, love like his parents love

714
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,640
like his uncle and auntie, you
know, just.

715
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,600
Right, 'cause we got, we got the
child part out the way now.

716
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,920
Yeah, we do.
Can't.

717
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,480
Even though he's not raising
him, he does at least know that

718
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,280
there is nothing wrong with him,
that that is something that he

719
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,040
can do.
So at least he has a little bit

720
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,720
more hope on that.
So I don't know.

721
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:19,840
I'm, I'm kind of liking this,
you know, he might, he might be

722
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,240
seeing this, this Rachel, you
know.

723
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:25,480
Yeah, I'm, I'm feeling the the
flirting, this and everything.

724
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,520
I'm OK with this match.
But what about her and William?

725
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,920
Because there's also a little
bit of flirtiness there.

726
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,040
Too It is she spent more time
with William.

727
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:41,920
I don't care, right now is the
top of my list.

728
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:46,040
William comes after so William
will find his love later.

729
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,280
I need him to grow up.
Oh, William.

730
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,320
Yeah.
What?

731
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,720
He's still, I'm sorry, he's
still like he had been through

732
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:58,080
something.
So he he's still young and her

733
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:03,560
but mature, you know, wise the
way of the world.

734
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,040
William needs to to learn about
first of all, he needs to learn

735
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,920
who he really is so he can claim
that inside.

736
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,600
That's going to be tough, I
think.

737
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,200
That probably will be some years
and some therapy.

738
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:20,200
Yeah, girl, you don't.
There's no therapy on.

739
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,880
This so and he's still he's
still young, like he's still

740
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,840
young and understanding this war
and like you said, the

741
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,000
rebellions and how you can have
friends on the other side and

742
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,800
really thinking about what is
happening and what this means.

743
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,160
He doesn't he he's not getting
it because he is a little

744
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,360
privileged though.
Yeah, I was going to say

745
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:44,280
privileged.
And and even though I think Lord

746
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,600
John has tried to teach him all
of that, they're just some

747
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,280
things.
Things you just that.

748
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,320
You can't learn until you've
been through them.

749
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,640
You can't learn to be a grown up
until you've actually gone

750
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,880
through, you know, having to pay
bills, having to find things on

751
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,280
your home or with someone like
him.

752
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,200
He he, he has time and he needs
to just kind of grow and then

753
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,600
he'll find his Rachel, but not
that Rachel.

754
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:20,920
But all I know is that old man
Mr. Beasley better not pop out

755
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:26,080
of no tent in the future.
And I don't want to know.

756
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,960
I'm not going to ask you when
this taping is over, but he

757
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,720
better not.
He did not Was Ian finds some

758
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:38,880
love you.
You mean Mr. Mr. Bug?

759
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,960
I'm sorry.
I've called him Mr. BS.

760
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,240
Mr. the Bears.
Lee, you were thinking about the

761
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:44,400
twins, But yeah.
Mr. Bugg.

762
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,800
Oh, my gosh.
Yes.

763
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:51,480
That's the only thing I think
that would maybe bother me about

764
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:58,080
Ian and Rachel because, OK, so
if they end up falling in love,

765
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,880
you know, Jamie and Claire and
Ian, they're still talking about

766
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,560
going to Scotland.
So if he takes her to Scotland

767
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,560
with them, it'll be fine.
I'd seriously doubt Mr. Bug is

768
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,440
about to get on a a boat to get
his revenge.

769
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:19,000
But if there's anything like the
man pop out, Yeah, like we don't

770
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:19,600
know where.
He is.

771
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,440
I was on the boat with you.
I mean, we don't know where he

772
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,760
is now.
He could be dead for all we

773
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,880
know, which of course we know
that ain't going to happen.

774
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,720
No, because we got to have some
kind of drama Ian's gonna have

775
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:32,560
to have.
Yeah, we we do.

776
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,960
But it's not needed because it
wasn't like he did that on

777
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,240
purpose.
Mr. Bug don't.

778
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,960
Care.
I know, but I feel like after

779
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,360
that, after having to go
throughout years, it, it was a

780
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:54,000
few years thinking that you may
not be able to have kids and

781
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,560
that you're not worthy.
You're not a whole man, I know.

782
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,320
I think that's enough punishment
and that someone you love was

783
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,200
taken from you because you
couldn't give her some and and

784
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,080
give it to your friend.
Right.

785
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:15,360
And not to mention your wife
died because y'all were being,

786
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,520
y'all were being greedy, y'all
were feeling entitled.

787
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,360
Which?
Right, right.

788
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,480
So.
I can kind of understand them

789
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,480
being servants and you know, he
was like, I was tasked men to to

790
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,520
the Grants, like he was an
important person back home in

791
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,480
Scotland.
So I can understand his

792
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,360
indignation.
I can understand his feeling of

793
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,760
I deserve more.
I just think, I think if Jamie

794
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,800
had found out about the gold in
a way other than the way that

795
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,200
they found out about it, there
might have been some room for

796
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,280
some conversation without the
aggression.

797
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,880
But because that gold was dug up
or what, you know, turned up

798
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,000
when Wendigo Donna was trying to
find gemstones, it already added

799
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,760
tension.
You know, it added more tension

800
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,320
to an already tense situation.
And at this point, Jamie is

801
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,880
just, you know, one thing about
Jamie.

802
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,880
Jamie is very much about
loyalty.

803
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,080
Jamie treats his people good.
And he's like, I just want the

804
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:23,360
respect and loyalty in return,
which I think Arch and Merdina

805
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,880
gave him.
But it's the whole secrecy

806
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,720
thing.
Jamie don't like secrets.

807
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:34,520
He never has.
So I think that was part of his

808
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,040
decision to go through all of
that.

809
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,200
I mean, even when he found out
about the the goal with the

810
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:47,880
cameras, he wasn't pleased.
So yeah, I I just think that bug

811
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,400
should have left well enough
alone.

812
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,600
Or maybe it wasn't even him.
Maybe it was Mardina, because

813
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,720
she was the one who was like, we
deserve this.

814
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,280
So he's the one who decided, OK,
I'm going to go dig it up

815
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,040
because they're not going to be
mean to me.

816
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,160
They're not going to be
aggressive with me.

817
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,040
But she shouldn't have shot the
goddamn gun.

818
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,280
If she had not shot the gun she
would still be alive cause Ian

819
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,040
wouldn't be thinking oh Arch bug
is about to murder my uncle.

820
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,440
Right.
And he was just doing

821
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,440
self-defense like he cared for
missus bug.

822
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:23,360
So that's why.
But Art, yeah, I I have a

823
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,400
feeling Arch is gonna make this
a little bit harder for Ian to

824
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:32,480
be happy, right?
Because the, the moment he sees

825
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,040
from wherever he is looking,
it's shit, he might be at Fort

826
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,400
Ticonderoga somewhere, but the
minute he sees Ian being just a

827
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,560
small bit happy, he's like, OK,
so I'm a kid, I'm a, I'm a watch

828
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,640
this like, it's one thing to be
talking to her and oh, we're,

829
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,520
we're doing a little flirting
back and forth.

830
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,000
Nah, that's not important that
that can be, you know, whatever.

831
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,000
If things get serious, that's
gonna be the problem.

832
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,280
And then because Rachel is a
Quaker, if she and Ian are able

833
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,640
to get together, which we
already know her brothers

834
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,520
probably going to be like no
because if he didn't want her

835
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,920
talking to William because
William is a quote UN quote

836
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,040
violent man definitely don't
want her talking to Ian cause

837
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,600
Ian is definitely.
Yeah, he walking around.

838
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:28,920
Yeah, bad guy he walking around.
Even if they were to get

839
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:35,960
together, if Archbug comes after
them, comes after Rachel again,

840
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,680
Rachel is a quake 'cause she's
gonna be like, no, don't harm

841
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,880
him, God will protect me.
Because that's what she said

842
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,640
with the with the rat still
people.

843
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,760
OK, Ian is not about to let that
happen.

844
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:56,400
Right, that's what I'm saying.
No, he was raised by Jamie so.

845
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,480
And if you saw, if you remember
the way Jamie was with Richard

846
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,640
Brown when he was in that room
and he was sitting there just so

847
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,680
calm and quiet and Richard Brown
was like, but you're a good man.

848
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,600
He said my he said, whatever
good is left in me is because of

849
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,200
my wife.
And you tried to take her away

850
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,880
from me.
Punk is on.

851
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:23,160
That's that's who raised in and
then that the Mohawk.

852
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,320
What?
Yeah.

853
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,440
So I don't think Archbug needs
to try it, but I have a feeling

854
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,960
he's gonna he he he's going to
he's a man of his word.

855
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,000
That's.
One, yeah, but I don't wanna, I

856
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,840
don't wanna see that episode.
I'm just saying I'm I'm not

857
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,480
prepared for that.
You know what?

858
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,640
Because here's the thing, I
understand why Archbug is going

859
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,160
through what he's going through.
But before that, he was, he was

860
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,560
a good dude.
He was one of our family.

861
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:01,480
Yeah, but you know, at this
point, I, I need you to be like,

862
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,200
you know what we done after and
this was consequence.

863
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,680
So I got to go home with my
life.

864
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:10,880
It was really my fault that my
wife is dead, no one else's but

865
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,960
my own.
He's a proud Scots.

866
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,680
He's not.
Yeah, but I'm just saying then

867
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,160
you better take responsibility.
Yeah, and you better get ready

868
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,080
to catch his ass.
You mess with Rachel, right?

869
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,520
Right.
And another thing, this episode

870
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:30,000
was kind of like, OK, the only
interesting thing really for me

871
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:35,120
was the the Cameron and we saw
the.

872
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,120
Claire got captured again.
Right.

873
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,080
That's what I'm saying that's.
Trying to go after this woman

874
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,080
who?
Look, it's like a procedure,

875
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,680
Outlander.
One of them is in danger, the

876
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,800
other one goes through the end
of the earth to save them, and

877
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,080
then at the end they find each
other.

878
00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:55,200
That's all that really happened,
but.

879
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,200
This, this is the thing.
The thing with Claire is I

880
00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:04,640
understand you're a doctor.
I understand you're supposed to

881
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:09,920
help, but this woman was clearly
out of her mind so one y'all

882
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,320
should have gave her some kind
of sedative before y'all put her

883
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,080
on the boat while she's sitting
here talking about what the

884
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,360
Indians going to do, they going
to scalp her, they going to skin

885
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,920
her, all this other stuff.
The second thing is the minute

886
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,560
this woman shot herself in the
head, Claire, you knew there

887
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,320
wasn't shit you can do and you
knew them.

888
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,120
Red Coast was going to hear that
bullet.

889
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,000
Your ass should have took off
instead of sitting there trying

890
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,000
to see if she was still
breathing.

891
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,280
They don't they too comfortable
with they stuff.

892
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,640
Claire should know better.
And now because you don't got

893
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,600
cancer, you know that You know
Jamie finna come after you.

894
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,880
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like I don't even have a

895
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,320
care in the world.
Like, oh, I've been kidnapped,

896
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,600
that's no problem.
He's going to come in a week or

897
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,600
no.
Knowing him, two days from now

898
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,680
I'm going to hear people dying
on the side and I know that's my

899
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,600
man.
Like, you know, right.

900
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,680
And even even with Ian trying to
sneak into Fort Ticonderoga

901
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,560
pretending like he's a spy, he
probably could have gotten away

902
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,920
with all of that.
But of course William is there,

903
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,240
and they don't realize William
is there.

904
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:27,360
Well, at least Ian doesn't.
But it's kind of like William is

905
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,560
having too much close proximity
with folks in his family I need.

906
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:37,840
It's but it's fun how everybody
just be like they know they know

907
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:43,160
and you don't know a thing.
Yeah, that's gonna be ugly when

908
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,880
it comes out, 'cause he's gonna
be like, you know, you know, you

909
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,480
know, why is that?
What?

910
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,240
He's talking.
So yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm waiting

911
00:55:54,240 --> 00:56:03,080
for that reveal to happen.
But I mean, and then and then at

912
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:08,040
the end of the episode when Jet,
when Claire has the the flask

913
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,000
that William gave her with the
what was the whiskey?

914
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,320
I think he said he was like,
where did you get?

915
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,840
And she was like, your son gave
it to me.

916
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:19,640
You just the emotions that goes
over Jamie's face anytime his

917
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,760
son is mentioned just hurts my
heart.

918
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,080
Like can y'all please tell this
boy that this man is his daddy

919
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,840
now?
So they can just so they can

920
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:35,440
have it out, hash it out and
then work towards reconciliation

921
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,840
or whatever.
I need that to have like I am

922
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,600
in.
Well then I, I do, I do want to

923
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,600
see it happen.
But then I still feel bad for

924
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,280
Lord Gray though, 'cause that's
when that's even rough right

925
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,480
there.
Yeah, and you know.

926
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,880
'Cause he's really, William was
going to be really upset about

927
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,160
that.
So I really don't want to don't

928
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,640
want to see it.
No, I understand.

929
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,440
And then also Brianna is not
there to talk to him about it

930
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,640
because like the episode a
couple, you know, a couple of

931
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,000
episodes.
Ago because she's been through

932
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,040
that herself.
Because she's been through it

933
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:09,720
herself.
That's.

934
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,320
Yeah, I just thought about it.
Yeah, when she was talking to

935
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,200
Lord John about it, saying, you
really, are you ever going to

936
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,760
tell him?
And Lord John was like, I don't

937
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,680
think that's the best thing for
him.

938
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,040
And she was like, do you
understand how that's going to

939
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,600
hurt him or how upset he'll be
once he finds out?

940
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,240
And I was like, what she should
have added was and and she did

941
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,040
tell him a little bit about
Frank, but but what she told him

942
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,080
about Frank was that, you know,
she had another father, that he

943
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,800
loved her very much.
He she still thinks of him.

944
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,800
She, you know, that's still her
father.

945
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,840
But then when she met Jamie, she
didn't say anything about the

946
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,240
ugliness in between those
things.

947
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:54,120
She didn't talk about how when
she found out by accident about

948
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,920
Jamie being her father, how she
thought her mother was a liar,

949
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,520
how she thought her mother was a
whore, how she went through this

950
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,080
whole identity crisis because
she didn't know who she was.

951
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,960
Even though a lot of that
happened in the future and

952
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,000
there's certain things she can't
say, she could have at least

953
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,120
said that much.
Like, look, I know what it's

954
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,160
like to grow up your whole life
thinking one man was your actual

955
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,560
father and then somebody else
was.

956
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,760
He's not going to take it well.
And the longer you hope you keep

957
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,600
it from him, the worse it's
going to be.

958
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,080
She should be telling him this
because at least he can think

959
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:29,240
that and, and, and considerate,
especially if he knows that she

960
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,920
went through the exact same
thing.

961
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,360
But again, I guess they just
don't really communicate very

962
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,680
well in the 18th century.
So you're just going to have to

963
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,960
wait and see how that plays out.
But the fact that you got and

964
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,680
you got Claire, you got William
all in the same space at the

965
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,720
same time, and now William is
helping them.

966
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,840
I was like, yeah, this is about
to get real messy for him.

967
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,560
It's about to get messy because
I know he told, I know he told

968
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,640
him he was like, look, we're
square, so don't let me see you

969
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,040
the next time 'cause I may not
have a choice.

970
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,120
I was like, bro, that ain't the
smoke.

971
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,360
You won't, 'cause like you said,
William does not have the

972
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,360
experience.
Ian got all the experience.

973
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,240
Yeah, he does.
You know, I'm saying all the

974
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,000
experience.
And, and the only thing that

975
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,680
would help him win that fight is
because Ian knows who he is.

976
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,080
Ian is not going to go after
him.

977
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:33,440
Oh, no.
So, yeah.

978
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:42,280
But let's see, we have 1-2 more
episodes in this part of the

979
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:47,120
season.
And then we have season the

980
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,680
second-half of Season 7, and now
Leia wants to be on camera.

981
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:58,240
But yeah, there's there's just
there's just so much that

982
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,880
happens in the books that I
really want to see on screen.

983
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,320
And I don't think we're going to
get it some of the important

984
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,160
things.
I think we'll get some of the

985
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,320
stuff that happens with Roger
and Brianna.

986
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,640
I know we're going to get all
the most of the Jamie and Claire

987
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:21,000
stuff.
I'm pretty sure they will put

988
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,000
William Disco discovering that
Jamie is his father.

989
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,120
I'm pretty sure they'll put that
in the show.

990
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,760
But some of the other stuff that
leads up to that, they probably

991
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,800
won't because.
No, they we really.

992
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,600
Don't have time to do all of
that?

993
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,520
We really do need to see that
before it ends and before we see

994
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,160
them die together at the end.
So we need him to, we need him

995
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,200
to be able to save my son.
Well, I'm just telling you how

996
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,840
this is this show's going to
end.

997
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,720
There's no other way.
I mean, I I believe you.

998
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,600
Because when Jamie wanted to
take his life in season 1,

999
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,920
Claire was like, oh, OK, you
want to die?

1000
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,320
I'm gonna die right here with
you.

1001
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,200
And that was the thing that he
was like, you can't die.

1002
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,120
OK, then.
Then I guess we both stayed

1003
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,080
alive 'cause Claire was like,
I'm not playing with you.

1004
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,600
Look, I could have gone home.
I stayed here to be with you

1005
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,000
because I realized I loved you
and now you want to check out on

1006
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,400
me.
And he was like, everything

1007
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,040
that's happened to me that that
that doesn't give it a reason

1008
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,760
to.
She was like, no, 'cause I

1009
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,920
forgot Claire had been assaulted
at by that point too, with by

1010
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,960
the the red coat deserter.
And I was like, oh, yeah, OK.

1011
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:31,360
Yeah, they just, they just been
through it, still going through

1012
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,720
it.
We'll probably still right.

1013
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,080
I mean, we got a whole war.
I mean, to me the worst was when

1014
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,000
they were, you know, in Paris
and stuff.

1015
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:44,000
So if they can get through that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1016
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,640
Oh goodness.
In the midst of losing the baby,

1017
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,400
too, Yeah.
Yeah.

1018
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,960
There's a lot.
Mm, hmm.

1019
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,280
Mm hmm.
So the only other interesting

1020
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,640
thing about this is, like I
said, like Jamie pointed out,

1021
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:06,040
his cousin is on the British
side, the Brigadier Simon

1022
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,360
Fraser.
Oh yeah, yeah.

1023
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,920
I was like, this is not going to
be cute because if they do come

1024
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,800
to war, however that happens,
you got your son and your cousin

1025
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,360
on the opposite side.
Yeah, you're fighting on this

1026
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,240
side, even though I know he's
trying not to fight.

1027
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:26,440
But I mean, they consigned him.
Yeah, if it happens, it happens.

1028
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,760
Yeah, you think they're going to
let somebody with Jamie's

1029
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,960
experience not stop?
Yeah, he keeps trying to get

1030
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,360
away from that and he keeps
getting pulled back in, So no.

1031
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,800
But yeah, I, I'm just, I'm
really curious to see how

1032
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,960
they're going to finish Season 7
out.

1033
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:54,360
And I think once I see how they
finish out the season, that'll

1034
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,120
give me an idea of where they're
going to go for Season 8.

1035
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,840
Because again, they can't do
much for book 10.

1036
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:06,000
Because not only is she still
writing it, but why would she

1037
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,040
want to give her ending to the
show when her book may not be

1038
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:15,080
done for another 3-4 years?
You know, why would she want to

1039
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,200
give that away?
Because if she gives that away,

1040
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,920
which I know this is not the
case, before the people who are

1041
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,840
the show people, if you want to
get them to read the books,

1042
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,240
telling them, telling them the
way it ends is not going to help

1043
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,160
that.
No, then that's The thing is

1044
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,880
like, that's why I'm OK with it
ends with them dying together.

1045
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,640
But we just don't know what led
to that.

1046
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:35,880
You know what I'm saying?
What I'm saying talking.

1047
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,360
About them dying.
Together, I'm going to keep

1048
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,280
putting it out in the
atmosphere.

1049
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,640
I'm just saying they.
Can be immortal.

1050
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,040
You know, Claire has not come
into her power yet because you

1051
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,560
know, they said something about
when her hair turns white.

1052
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,680
She hasn't come into her power.
She could be immortal for all we

1053
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,120
know.
OK, here we go.

1054
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,600
But he's not so.
OK, so we're gonna try this

1055
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,400
again.
No, it's.

1056
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,160
They can't end.
They can only it maybe.

1057
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:10,080
OK, how about this?
They can't end it with them at

1058
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,840
the top of a mountain saying
this has been a life we have

1059
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:26,080
lived and we're going to now
settle down and this land and

1060
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:30,720
reminisce about flash and
flashbacks of all that brought

1061
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:37,000
us here and knowing that our
daughter is doing well with her,

1062
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:42,000
with our grandbabies.
Your son is doing well, Ian is

1063
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,760
doing well.
It's just me and you.

1064
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,640
Everybody's OK and let's just
grow old together in this cabin.

1065
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,920
Who'd actually go for for ending
like that?

1066
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,560
I don't.
And then it zooms.

1067
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,720
I don't need to see them die.
It zooms out and then at that

1068
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,320
point we don't know what
happened, but then the books the

1069
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,640
next day she gets kidnapped
again.

1070
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,080
No, maybe.
Maybe they'll maybe they'll end

1071
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,520
on a happy note in the books too
'cause like, I don't have to.

1072
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:19,120
Here's the thing.
I don't have to see the the neat

1073
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,240
but finite end of their story.
I don't have to see them die.

1074
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,520
I don't have to see it
completely and.

1075
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,520
But they're but the to be honest
with you, I can do that.

1076
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,480
They're dead.
But they're dead, though.

1077
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,360
Yeah.
So with from so then from the

1078
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,720
real perspective, right.
So they can find out how their

1079
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,400
parents died.
And she's just it.

1080
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,080
It just brings tears to your
eyes.

1081
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,600
I don't even need to find out
that.

1082
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,280
Or maybe we don't even see it.
Maybe we don't even see it.

1083
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,600
They do not have to die,
Michelle, damn it.

1084
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:53,840
They do not have to die and.
Maybe Bree reads a letter.

1085
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,760
Being on the mountaintop,
looking over everything, knowing

1086
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,680
that all of the drama is done
and we pan out.

1087
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,240
I'm good with that.
I don't.

1088
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,720
Or maybe even maybe 3 reads a
letter where someone says the

1089
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,520
last time they saw them was them
walking into the woods.

1090
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,920
See then we don't know.
They're dead.

1091
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,320
They walked into the woods and
and they've been living in their

1092
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,520
cabin.
So she's like, you know what?

1093
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,440
I don't want to know.
Or maybe, she says, I don't want

1094
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:28,800
to know.
OK, I like the first scenario

1095
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,400
you described better.
It it because it needs to end

1096
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,760
with them.
This last scene needs to be them

1097
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,240
too, so it could be live or
dead.

1098
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,600
That they don't have to die,
Michelle.

1099
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,400
They do don't need to die.
Well, if they don't, we got to

1100
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,160
imagine there's.
Do you think they need to?

1101
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,840
Die in order to end the book, in
order to end the show, in order

1102
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,960
to end the books, in order to
end claiming, claiming Jamie and

1103
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,520
Claire's story, Do they need to
die?

1104
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,760
Because I don't think they do.
Well, if they don't, we know

1105
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,240
they're going to get in more
trouble.

1106
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,840
So let's end the troubles.
They.

1107
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,080
Might be too old for trouble at
that point.

1108
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,600
Let them be too.
Let them grow old to the point

1109
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,840
ain't nobody about to ask no 80
year old Jamie to come fight for

1110
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:16,280
shit.
Just.

1111
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,920
No, but you know, Claire going
to be still having surgery at

1112
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,720
90.
She no, she's not, because her

1113
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,360
eyesight is already going.
Remember, Jamie told her she

1114
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,160
needed glasses, She needed
spectacles.

1115
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,240
She's not going to be doing no
surgeries at No 80.

1116
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,480
She probably create some more.
She probably had Brie bring me

1117
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:34,760
some glasses when you come
visit.

1118
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,000
You know what?
We don't even know if Brie is

1119
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,440
coming back.
That's true.

1120
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,520
I, I, they had to.
They have to.

1121
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,520
They will have to because I
don't feel like they would need

1122
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,840
to say goodbye again.
And you're right.

1123
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:55,000
If William finds out, William
needs to talk to his sister.

1124
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,400
Like, I know you're my sister.
So I've always felt that they're

1125
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,560
going to come back.
Like their heart isn't in the

1126
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,600
present, it's in the past.
So I feel like they're going to

1127
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:05,640
come back.
OK.

1128
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,840
So I always felt like they're
going to come, come back.

1129
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:10,880
I have no problem with that.
It it.

1130
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,280
It's just a matter of what will
bring them back because they

1131
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,640
already know like.
I know it's going to bring them

1132
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:17,760
back.
They're going to need some money

1133
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,680
for that house and they're going
to ask the little boy for some

1134
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,600
gold.
There was a reason why, but they

1135
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,760
don't.
Have to go back to get the gold

1136
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:26,800
they can just.
That's true.

1137
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,840
They don't have to go back, but
I just want them to go back.

1138
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,000
I just want them to go back.
I I do too, because for the same

1139
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,720
reason, I, I want to see
William, I, I want to see how

1140
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,680
William and Brianna's
relationship would develop just

1141
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,000
just as much as I want to see
how his and Jamie's would.

1142
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,960
And like I said, there are a
couple other things that happens

1143
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,960
in the books and I'm kind of
wondering if they're going to

1144
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,240
put in the show.
So yeah.

1145
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:56,279
But I again, it, it just depends
on what would bring her back,

1146
01:08:56,279 --> 01:09:00,080
what would happen her back.
Like, I don't know, maybe, you

1147
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:06,560
know, I think at some point when
she was going back when he was

1148
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,000
younger, the first time they
tried to go back, Jamie said

1149
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,640
something about maybe you can
look him up in your books and

1150
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,520
find him.
Maybe she does the same thing

1151
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,319
that she did with the The Fire
article.

1152
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:21,920
She sees something that talks
about, you know, William Ransom,

1153
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,880
the 9th, Laura Ellesmere or
something happens and she goes

1154
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,600
back.
But it would have to be

1155
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:34,640
something very, it would have to
be something literally life or

1156
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,920
death.
Because for them to go back now

1157
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:40,680
in the midst of the American
Revolution, that wouldn't be

1158
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,439
safe for any of them.
No.

1159
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,120
So.
And I think that's one of the

1160
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,439
reasons why Jamie and Claire
were kind of like, OK, yeah, you

1161
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,000
need to go back, even though it
was because of Mandy.

1162
01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:52,359
But it's still they were like,
yeah, you don't need to be here

1163
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,920
because Rodger definitely would
have been conscripted into

1164
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,200
service.
And we know Rodger don't like to

1165
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,360
fight.
He don't want to fight if he

1166
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,640
doesn't have to.
He will if he needs to.

1167
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,440
But he that's not his first
choice.

1168
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,800
And then that will leave Brianna
and and the kids.

1169
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,720
So yeah, it, it would have to be
something, life or death for her

1170
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:19,280
to come back then, you know, or
if something happens to Rodger

1171
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,000
or if something happens to Bri,
neither one of them wants to be

1172
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,480
there in the future.
Without them, they would have to

1173
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:31,200
go back at that time.
So yeah, but.

1174
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:32,480
We'll.
See.

1175
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,040
Yep.
You have anything else you want

1176
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:42,480
to say about this episode?
No, ma'am, they do have to die.

1177
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:47,000
They don't have to die.
And on that note, that is it for

1178
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,640
our show.
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1179
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:54,200
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1180
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,920
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1181
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,440
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1182
01:10:58,440 --> 01:11:01,480
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1183
01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:04,640
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1184
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,760
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1185
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:40,590
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