Outlander S7E8 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #321

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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physically with Michelle and we
are discussing Outlander season

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7 episode 8.
It is the I guess you can call

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it mid season finale for season
7 even though season 7 was over

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a year ago.
But that's OK.

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Drought Lander is officially
over.

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Episode 9 has been released.
We are going to discuss that

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later.
But first we need to catch up on

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the first half of season 7 and
this episode.

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And it's been so long, Michelle
forgot that she watched the

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episode.
Or or you said you didn't watch

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that.
I I don't even remember.

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So we were supposed to record
this a few weeks ago.

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We both got busy with work and
then Michelle had laryngitis for

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almost a week.
Yes, and Vertigo.

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And Vertigo, yes.
And then we had Conjuration.

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So we talked about this episode
at Conjuration.

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We need to get to it right now.
So let's get to it.

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First off, Claire told Jamie.
If you don't come back from this

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battle, I'm gonna come looking.
For you, that's what she did.

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And, and, and she had to fend
off this woman and her child who

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was going through picking the
pockets of the dead to get

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stuff.
This woman was really going to

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try to kill Jamie and like what?
But I don't understand, like you

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don't even have to kill him.
Just hurry up and pick his

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pocket and go to another person,
right?

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Because this is how that.
Works.

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They're on the battlefield,
chances are.

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They're going to die soon.
She's going to die soon anyway.

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Internal bleeding.
I mean, they're going to die

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soon, but you know, with Claire,
you can't mess with her boots.

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So she was like, no, ma'am, no.
And even if they don't die, even

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if they don't.
You can still pick their

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pockets.
They're not going to remember.

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Not only that, but if they're
taken to their camp to be, you

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know, healed, fixed up,
whatever, you really think

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they're going to go back and
look for whatever was in their

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pockets?
They are probably just really

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care.
What was in my?

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Pocket.
They're just glad to be alive.

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Be honest.
They're just glad to be alive.

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Well, you know what?
Honestly, probably they do care

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because if they have something
in their pocket, then that means

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it's something extremely
important because you're not

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taking everything with you.
Like you're not taking a $20

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bill and some pennies.
You taking like a wedding ring

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or?
Your like a portrait of your

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child or necklace so.
You will start to once you get

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healed, you'll be looking for
it.

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Yeah, but just like that woman
she picked through Jamie's

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pocket, she saw the portrait.
She was like, oh, this is of no

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value to me.
I'm going to throw it down on

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the ground.
Just.

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Put it in his pocket.
Let him die with it.

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Yeah, but The thing is, she she
was messing with the wrong one,

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messing with the wrong one.
Now we had this conversation

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about Jamie and his nine lives.
He's a cat.

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Listen, how many?
Like how?

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Many I know you will how.
Many even I don't even know if I

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can remember all the lives.
It could be someone he was a

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kid, it could be one even almost
died when he was a kid, right

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so.
But to have your hand go have a

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sore go through your hand all
the way to.

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The OH.
So, but the good thing about

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this is in the episode when
Claire, when she does the

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surgery to repair his hand, in
the books, she has to actually

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take his finger.
So he's literally, I can't

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remember what is this?
So he's literally like this now

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because she has to take the
finger.

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Which hand?
I think it's the left hand

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because it's the it's the hand
that was damaged before.

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OK, So yeah, she's.
Not look, it's not that

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important.
I mean, no, it's OK.

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It's OK.
I'm just speaking on Claire's

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behalf.
Yeah, but yeah.

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But OK, so let's talk about this
first Battle of Saratoga.

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Jamie gets injured.
Like we said, he wasn't supposed

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to be there.
Captain, was it Colonel Morgan?

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Captain Morgan?
Colonel Morgan?

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I think Captain Morgan, maybe we
need a drink.

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And Colonel Morgan against
troops were not supposed to

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answer the fray.
They did.

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And it turns out it made the
difference, you know, And it's

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one of those things where Jamie
and Claire, they always talk

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about the little things that
they try to do to change

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history.
And it's like the big stuff they

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can't change, but the little
stuff they can.

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Just like with the Battle of
pressing pans in the Battle of

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colliding, some people were able
to make it home from Clan

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Fraser.
They didn't die.

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They were able to, you know,
that's just a small change they

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were able to do, just like here,
they were able to save.

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So was that did they really make
a change or was the change

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already there?
And see, that's the thing about

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time travel like.
So I.

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What came first?
So like they say, they're making

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these little changes.
Maybe they always made those

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little changes and see, that's
the hard.

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Part I don't know.
I know.

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Like we said in the last
episode, if this was one of

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those time travel things where,
you know, you change something

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different in it, go off, it goes
off into another branch

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multiverse, you know, for Marvel
fans or whatever, something like

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that, then it would be
different.

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But I don't think it works that
way in this show.

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And I think just this, you know,
those are the small things.

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Would they have been able to
stop the battle altogether?

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I don't think that would.
Think so, but I'm like even

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those small things.
Do we know that those small

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things already had happened?
I think if they looked through

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history books.
But they, they had, you

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understand, So it's like they
might have been able to single

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big information.
They know the big things that

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happened, the little things.
They don't know what happened,

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which could have already
happened because they were

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already meant to be there to do
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That's possible, but it it's
also possible that maybe a

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couple of thousand men did
survive because of that one,

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because of Jamie being on, you
know, the the sniper unit.

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I can't remember what.
They called him, but which then

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does change the time.
Like I'm speaking like we're in

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marble.
This is a whole different.

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There.
Is there is no multiverse, there

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is no this this is the sacred
time that he saved does change

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things, but maybe that person
has already been saved.

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So that's the hard part.
It could be what I'm saying.

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So you know what?
But you know what?

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It's not explaining.
It's not important.

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So we.
Know, but I mean, just like

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Claire said of back in I think
it was season 6 when she was

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trying to do the when she was
trying to make the penicillin

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and she told Brianna, she said
every person that I save here is

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a small change.
So maybe it's just like these

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little small things because
they're so I don't want to say

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insignificant because I'm sure
to the person whose life she

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saved that was significant, but
it's not significant enough to

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make a major change like maybe
these.

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These people living and their
kids living, and then their kids

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living and their kids living
there is significant.

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It may not.
Well, I'm OK, We're not going to

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say they're insignificant.
What I'm saying is they need to

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be so that they need to be so
they can still stay alive

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because they don't mess up
what's happening in the world.

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I'm saying those people probably
aren't important enough that

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they don't have anything.
And then with changing and their

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future ancestors don't have
anything, like there's no, you

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know, current president or their
descendants.

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Yeah, cure cancer.
That's just not going to happen

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with that line.
And that's how they were able to

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save that line.
Because like we said, when it

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comes to time traveling and
certain things, a lot of this

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stuff is fixed points, even when
Jamie and Claire tried to change

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things in France.
It always self corrected to do

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what it was supposed to do.
So I, I think, I don't know,

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there has to be some kind of
balance.

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Even though even Jamie being
alive but he maybe he was always

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going to be alive because it was
always Claire coming back and

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them doing this.
See.

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OK, now I'm sorry everyone.
It's OK, We're, we're just

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trying to figure this thing out
because time travel is one of

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those things.
Time is a construct.

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But anyway, we meet Benedict
Arnold in this episode.

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Yes, I like when she throws in
historical feeding.

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Yes.
And then it's so interesting

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with this because Benedict
Arnold, of course, you know,

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he's on the rebel side and this
is how Claire meets him because

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he he is also maybe not a great
healer, but he also does, you

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know, triage for people in his
camp.

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And he comes looking for, I
think it was Sincona bark, but

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he comes looking for herbs and
she's able to exchange.

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And this is when she realizes
who's who he is.

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And she's telling Jamie she was
like, so he's on our side right

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now, but there's something that
happens that makes him turn.

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And his name will forever be
synonymous with being a traitor,

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even 200 years from now.
And it's so, it's so interesting

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because a lot of times when we
do meet these characters, like

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when we met Benedict Arnold in
this episode, very courteous,

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very gentlemanly, very like,
very affable, very much a

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likable person.
So then you start to wonder,

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what is it that's going to make
him turn?

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And then later on, after the
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happens, you know, he leads the
charge to shoot Simon Fraser,

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Jamie's second cousin.
Simon is shot and then he leads

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the charge to go overtake the
Fort.

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Now in the midst of all of that,
he gets hurt again and he talks

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to Claire about this injury that
he had during a battle years

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back.
So now he's re injured this leg.

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And not only that, the what do
they call the general?

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They call him Granny Gates, I
think because he's so old.

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But General Gates and Benedict
Arnold apparently have this long

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running feud between themselves.
And he's sitting on the, you

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know, he's sitting on the
stretcher and he's telling

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Claire about how Gates will
never acknowledge him for the

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great things that he does in
battle.

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He was like, you know, my, my
name will be lost to history.

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I won't be remembered.
It's not fair, is it?

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You know, is it wrong of me to
feel this way or to feel anger

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and animosity towards him?
And Claire was like, she told

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James, she said I had to tell
him the truth.

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But I I hope that's not what
sets him on his path to turn his

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coat.
And I'm like, no, I don't think

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it is.
It's, it's the way that Gates.

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Yeah, it's already there.
It's already so.

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You just can't be mistreating,
you know?

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You just gave them.
You a nerd?

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Yeah, you did.
But you, you know, you can't

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miss mistreat people because.
So now he's thinking his name

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will never be known.
And it's going to be known

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forever.
And they were.

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Very notorious, which is bad,
which is sad, but OK.

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So I want to talk about William.
But before then I just looked up

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and Claire's laying next to.
No, we're not going to have you.

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Already know where I was going
to go.

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We're not about to have this
conversation.

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They are nowhere near death, I
think, Jamie.

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I know about the same, you know,
that's about, that's what I need

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at the end, but OK.
No, she's.

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Everyone, she's just laying next
to him and you know.

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No.
Holding him.

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No, she keeps talking about she
wants his notebook ending.

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No, OK, Jamie and Claire don't
need to be.

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But I can see it.
OK.

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OK, William.
I'm just giving her this look

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just for those of y'all that
like why is she so quiet 'cause

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I'm giving her this look because
we are not going to have a

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notebook ending.
We are not going to have them

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die and just no, it's going to
have.

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Old age, everyone must die, but
everybody them die together

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anyway.
OK, let's talk about William a

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little bit, because first, out
of Saratoga, William learns

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about battle.
He learns about war.

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He learns that it's not all
pretty and glorified the way

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that, you know, I I think part
of the problem with war is men

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romanticize it in a sense.
Like it's this, it's this thing

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you go off and you're fighting
for your country.

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And, you know, they just, yeah,
they make it seem just like so

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glorious.
And then I.

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Want to say this we do that with
everything that.

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That's.
Why Marriage, having kids, war,

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sometimes life and then when
you're in the midst of it, it's

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not that's.
That is true.

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That is true.
But in this instance he learned

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the hard way he did in the last
battle.

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So I think he was, I think he
was better prepared in this one

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also, because I think this is
like, I can't remember the

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timelines, but it's been several
months.

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They they kind of cut.
They do a quick time jump to the

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second battle and you do see
William there on the battlefield

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with Simon Fraser.
Simon Fraser, of course, being

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the general, he's on his force
and he's just kind of telling

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everybody what to do.
And you have the rebels who are

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coming to fight.
Jamie is one of those rebels,

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and they're exchanging gunfire
back and forth.

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Now Jamie realizes his cousin is
on the other side of the

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battlefield.
But of course he can't tell

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anybody in his camp that because
they might start thinking, oh,

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OK, well, are you really trying
to be here or are you a spy,

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that sort of thing?
I mean, you do have family that

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fight on opposite sides of war.
And of course, this is not the

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first time that that's happened
for Jamie.

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But while they're exchanging
gunfire, an order is given.

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Matter of fact, I think it was
Benedict Arnold who gave the

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order to kill Simon Fraser.
Like, hey, if we do that, then

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we can, you know, we could
probably finish this battle

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fairly quickly.
And so that's what happened.

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Simon Fraser does get shot.
But the the crazy thing, and I

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know this is not going to be a
thing, but it was still close

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enough.
Jamie is trying to try to keep

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Simon out of harm's way.
You know, Jamie's a good shot.

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He is the one that is ordered.
Fraser shoot the general, shoot

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the general.
And of course he can't really

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shoot Simon.
So he shoots towards Simon, but

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he aims at one of the other
soldiers and he shoots that

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soldiers hat off.
And when the soldier turns

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around and look, it is William.
Boy, you almost killed your son

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like.
I was like, you know, what?

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If I was Jamie at that point,
I'm.

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Gonna put that gun down.
I can't.

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I would.
Have pretended I got shot or

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something.
King you that just can't.

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It's too close.
Because you just will net now.

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You will never know if we
continue having battles like

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this.
It's like at any point he can

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keep shoot you or you gonna
shoot him.

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And then you good at your job,
so you good at war.

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So that pretty much means
William is dead.

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But I don't think, I don't think
he was really trying to kill

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whoever was there.
He was just trying to make it

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seem like, OK, yes, I took a
shot at General Fraser and he's,

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you know, he.
Still shot him and even the even

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not back then.
Even a small wound can turn into

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death.
This is so it was too close to

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that.
There have been a lot of close

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calls and I was just like, at
this point, Jamie needs to

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demand, OK, you know what?
I cannot be in this war anymore.

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I know he can't tell people that
William is his son but he can at

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least say yo even though we're
opposite sides.

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Like that's the son of my best
mate.

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Right.
So I got some relatives on the

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other side and I wanna say who
the relatives are.

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We are, of course, again, but.
I mean, they probably already

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figured out that General Simon
Fraser is a relative, a distant

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relative of Jamie.
Well, they do when they ask him

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to take his body home.
So Well, yeah, because at that

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point, they say Simon has
realized that Jamie was there

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and he was like, OK, I want to
see him again.

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Which leads to a very poignant
part of the episode because

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Jamie and Claire, they do go
over to see Simon before he

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succumbs his injuries.
And, you know, you get a little

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bit of these two people who are
on opposite sides of this war,

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and they get to reminisce about
their days as kids chasing after

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the older boys.
And it's a very bittersweet

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moment, which I like to see
because of course, we haven't.

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Jamie hasn't had any other
family except for who's with him

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in North Carolina.
You know, all his other Scottish

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relatives he hasn't seen in
years.

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So it's nice that he's able to
connect while he's doing that

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inside, Claire is outside and of
course she, she runs into

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William and she realizes that
William is kind of close to the

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general and she apology, you
know, she says, I'm so sorry for

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your loss.
And he was like, thank you.

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And he was like, oh, wait, did
you mean the battle?

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And I was like, Oh yeah, you are
kind of losing 2 things at once.

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Because, you know, the, the
British for that battle, they

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did surrender because, you know,
they, they got overpowered.

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But it's so interesting because
we talked about Jamie and how

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his, his oath was to not see
William as an adult because, you

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know, supposedly, yeah, because
of how, how close they look.

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And of, of course, we said it.
You can't really tell it in the

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show, but in the books, they're,
they're almost identical.

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But he's getting ready to leave
the tent after Simon passes.

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And one of the other soldiers is
talking to William about how he

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was like, where's your hat?
And he was like, yeah, some, I I

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forgot what time he used.
Will you?

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Yeah.
Like, basically, someone robbed

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me of my hat.
And Jamie kind of stops and he

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turns around.
He gives the hat to William.

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And he was like, he keeps his
head down except for he looks at

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him once eye to eye and he's
like, I believe I owe you a hat,

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Sir.
And he bows his head like, yeah,

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I'm the one that shot you.
And it's like, you see all these

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emotions on Williams face
because one, this is Mac.

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This is a form of groom.
And, you know, this is also his

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father's dearest friend.
This is also someone who I think

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even though he doesn't remember
Jamie a lot, he does respect,

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you know, when he saw Claire at
Fort Ticonderoga and realized

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that she was a rebel, you know,
he had kind of feelings about

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that too, because he was like,
these are people who I know.

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These are people who have been
nice to me.

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They've treated me with respect,
but they're rebels.

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So you know it it kind of puts.
Doubt in his mind because of

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course, when you're in that kind
of war, the only thing you're

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thinking of is the people on the
opposite side of you.

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They're enemies.
You don't think about them in

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terms of people that you know,
people that you love, people

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that you respect, that sort of
thing.

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So you're looking at he's
looking at Jamie with all of

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this and then to also realize
Jamie almost killed him.

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It's just like I was sitting
there like I need y'all to hurry

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up and, and, and push this part
of the storyline along.

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I need wings to know I.
Do too and I I can't wait for

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that episode.
Oh, I think it's coming.

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So I, I think we'll probably get
that like early in the next half

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of the the show.
I think it'll be before the

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midway point.
It has to be because again,

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I've, I've Cotton, I've gotten
caught up with the books, so I

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know kind of where things are
going to happen.

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There's so much that they have
to do story wise.

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And even yeah, and even some of
the stuff that I thought they

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were not going to do in the next
part of the OR rather at any

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part of the rest of the show,
they're actually bringing some

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of those stories in based on
what I've seen in the trailer

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and the few clips they've
already released for episode 9.

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So I was like, oh, I have to
rethink my, I have to rethink

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this whole thing now.
Like, what are they doing?

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What are they not?
But based on episode titles, I

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think the William and Jamie
connection will be revealed.

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I would say probably maybe
around episode 2 or three.

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OK.
Yeah, see, I didn't look at

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episode or.
Episode 10 or 11, I think, yeah.

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OK, wait a minute.
Yeah, next one is 9, so 10.

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OK.
So yeah.

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It's time we we've been, you
know, sneaking him in at

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different points, but now it's
full-fledged.

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He needs to know who his family
is and then we can get over all

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the issues that's going to
happen when he finds out.

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And then we can get to them
being a family because before,

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before this ends.
Because woo.

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But it's going to be the only
part about it.

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Yeah.
And that, that's what I was

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going to say, cousin.
He's met his.

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Sister and didn't even know that
it was his sister and now she's

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not even in the same time
period, right.

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So and and then how are they
going to explain that to him?

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Right.
That's what I'm saying.

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Like where'd she go?
She can't come to Visa, I can't

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write her a letter, right?
Well, he knows that she's in

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Boston because that's what she
told her when she met her.

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And what if he tries to go to
Boston looking for her and

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they're like, she's not here.
No, Sir, she's not.

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So I don't know.
I just, I need them.

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So my prediction is everyone,
everyone's coming back to this

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timeline.
I mean, not timeline, but this

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time.
So Brianna will be back.

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The whole family will be back
together.

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I mean, I told you what needs
and and I'm not.

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I'm not even.
Going, I'm not even going the

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books, but we got to get them
from what were the 70s,

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nineteen, 80, the 80s or the
80s.

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We need to get them back so.
Well, I mean, like I said, they

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probably changed since.
Mandy is good, her heart is

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solid.
They probably changed some stuff

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from the book.
So I can't say like I don't know

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what direction they're going in
because of course they're ending

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next season.
So a lot of the stuff that's

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happened in the books, they're
going to either have to cut it

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out or they're going to have to
make some some like major

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changes.
So I wouldn't even yeah, I would

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expect that they closure.
We will.

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We will need closure and.
Yeah, you can't get closer if

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they in the 1980s.
Right.

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Especially with William like
they will need she will need to.

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Oh my gosh this is too much.
And not only that, you.

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And who's going to come to Ian
and Rachel's wedding?

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Well.
Not well.

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Not only that, but I mean, you
really think that Brianna is

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going to just sit back and let
Rodger go look for Jeremiah

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alone?
Well, not alone, because she's

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not.
Alone and honestly, she needs to

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stay.
They have a kid like this

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traveling back and forth.
I'm trying to say like we all

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are, I know, but at the end, at
the end at the I said the end

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when William and all that find
out.

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But right now with what's
happening, she needs to say, I

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think they they take for granted
that the traveling, it's like

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traveling, OK, we don't really
have many, you know, plane

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crashes, you know, cars.
But sometimes I think we take

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advantage that the safety of
things and it it's, it's still

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not safe to travel.
You don't know how you're going

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to travel, where you're going to
travel, when you going to

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travel, so we can't just go back
and forth and you.

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Don't even know what's happening
to their bodies when they're

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going.
On Because something could be

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happening to your body.
We don't even know.

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I think it is because if you
think about the way that Brianna

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and Rodger discuss it, it almost
feels like they're being pulled

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apart and reassembled.
So that's that's horrible take

449
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,360
some toll on your body it.
Does so, you know, she needs to

450
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:35,560
wait and see what happens 1st
and then they can get reunited

451
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:39,800
with her, with the son, and then
they go back and see.

452
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,960
Well, there's no reason why I
see your parents either.

453
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,560
So now something has to push
them to go back.

454
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,680
Yeah.
But I So my thing is, if Rodger

455
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,120
is gone for too long, she will
go.

456
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:54,880
She'll probably go because.
I take Mandy with you because

457
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,760
you have no family.
You have no family to keep.

458
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,200
And not only that, she's not.
I don't think she would leave

459
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,720
Mandy behind.
No, I'll leave it with.

460
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:09,080
Grandma so I will come back and
say hey I'm missing my owns our

461
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,840
family I need y'all help.
And you know, Jamie would be

462
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,840
like, oh, OK, I'm.
Down for the cross.

463
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,400
But she can't come back while
they're in Scotland, neither

464
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,560
that one actually that girl,
because she because they're in

465
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,840
Scotland.
OK, see, we just piece together.

466
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,960
So that's how they coming back.
I love it.

467
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,840
That could work.
I mean, because here's the

468
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,960
thing.
Jim is missing.

469
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,080
Roger wants to go look for him.
If Roger is gone for too long,

470
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,600
she's probably going to assume
that either Rodger can't get

471
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,880
back Rodger and Jim.
Let me say it like that Rodger

472
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,240
and Jim can't get back, or she's
going to assume Rodger could be

473
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,320
killed because it think about
it, if Rob Cameron and we still

474
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,600
got to figure out how Rob
Cameron is able to get through

475
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,520
the stumps.
But if Rob, if they come across

476
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:04,160
Rob Cameron, if Rob was crazy
enough or ambitious enough,

477
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,920
whatever you want to call it, to
take Jim through the stones to

478
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,840
try to find the French gold, you
don't think he'd be willing to

479
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,720
do whatever is needed in order
to make sure that he's not

480
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,880
thwarted in that.
So if it comes to if it comes to

481
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,320
killing Rodger and Buck, he very
may well try to do that.

482
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,520
And like you said in the last, I
think it was the last episode we

483
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,040
talked about, we don't know who
Rob Cameron is.

484
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,560
We don't know how he's able to
get through the stones.

485
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,840
We don't know who's waiting for
him on the other side.

486
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,040
Because like you said, if people
are aware of time travelers, you

487
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,280
don't know what kind of family
they have left behind or who

488
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,560
could be like.
And we forget that.

489
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:55,160
And then even like the people
you save may not necessarily be

490
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,880
great people.
And we we learned that already.

491
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,640
So you just never know what
impact you have done to someone

492
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,640
else.
And they're on the sidelines

493
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,680
watching and ready to strike.
So, and I think that's what

494
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,160
Cameron is someone who's been
watching the sunlight since

495
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,160
ready to strike.
And we haven't figured out who

496
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,160
or who what family member or is
it him?

497
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,440
Maybe he was from the past too
and they did something to him

498
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,960
like we don't know and they
didn't realize they did

499
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,040
something to because now he
wants we know binges and gold.

500
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,640
But I'll just say this.
If he traveled and he took Jim

501
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,000
back to where Jamie and Claire
are.

502
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,360
And they happen to come across
them on their on their travels

503
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,040
through Scotland once they
finally get there, because, yes,

504
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,320
they finally make it to
Scotland.

505
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,760
But we'll get into that.
Yeah.

506
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,640
So then Rob Cameron is a dead
man.

507
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,320
So whatever his.
Whatever his.

508
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,000
But you know, this all could
have been saved if they asked

509
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,920
him where the gold was and he
wrote that in the letter where

510
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,320
the gold was and then I was.
Wondering when you were going to

511
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,600
bring the?
Baby Cameron, gold isn't the

512
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,760
gold.
See, that's what I'm saying.

513
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,840
We don't really know.
Yeah, that's what we had to

514
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,880
figure out.
Yeah.

515
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,920
He's, they're thinking this
goal, but he could just be pure,

516
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,280
you know, revenge.
Could be, but either way it goes

517
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,640
he need to.
Die, you know, so I don't know.

518
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,360
He need to die, he needs to be
very badly hurt.

519
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,880
He bonnet have any other kids?
And probably.

520
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,040
I'm sorry, I mean, I'm, I'm just
thinking of, you know.

521
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,600
Of other, yeah, I don't think
so, but I could have.

522
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Got affected by this?
I don't know, but he was a

523
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,000
horrible man, so you can't be
like, Oh my daddy it.

524
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,000
What I mean, some people.
Yeah, you could, because they

525
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000
could have lied about the
situation and then he went to

526
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,120
follow them and then realize
what were they, they not where

527
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,120
they are, how they just
disappeared, right?

528
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,680
And I don't know.
Right, right.

529
00:29:53,480 --> 00:30:00,800
But so I, I don't know, I, I
think Brianna at some point may

530
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,960
follow, especially if Rodger
doesn't come like, but it's one

531
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,080
of those things like how long do
you wait?

532
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,840
Because even if Rob Cameron made
it through the stones with Jim,

533
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,840
made it to Inverness, she's
going to shit.

534
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,000
In a while because like he said
in the episode, I got to get on

535
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,520
a ship and ship a ship to north.
Carolina is going to take

536
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,880
months.
Right.

537
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,240
So literally she got to sit
around for months.

538
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,960
What do you where do you say?
Like Cameron took a leave of

539
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,960
absence from work?
Like where is he at work?

540
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,480
And not only that.
But luckily D Fax is not around

541
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,760
at this time to be like the boy
is not attending school, but

542
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,080
people are going to be looking
for Roger.

543
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,280
Roger, I mean if.
They can say he they went to the

544
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,400
states to go visit family
members.

545
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,200
But they were having issues.
But we've been separated.

546
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,400
We just divided the children in
half.

547
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,280
But I just don't.
Yeah, but unfortunately in the

548
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,040
80s and do that a lot of.
Times so you can't.

549
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,120
So you and the said that you
have to wait that long.

550
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,800
Like you literally have to wait.
And we know Brianna and she is

551
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,160
afraid.
But then what if this happens?

552
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,920
Like what if he did go through
the stones and then he realized,

553
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,400
I don't like this plan, Cameron,
go through the stones, everyone.

554
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,760
And he said I don't like this
plan and come back through the

555
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,680
stones.
No.

556
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,760
I don't but listen to this.
He go through the stones a week

557
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:32,440
later go back through the stones
to 1980s cause all kind of

558
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,320
issues.
Brianna can't even tell Roger

559
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,200
until he come back and say I
couldn't find our son and I'd be

560
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,120
like, your son came home like a
week later, OK, Cameron's in

561
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,960
prison.
We already had a trial and

562
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,600
everything.
We just been waiting for you to

563
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,800
come back and we just couldn't
send word.

564
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,280
You know what, they're kind of
look that might happen.

565
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,320
You see what I'm saying?
And you'd be like, well, I

566
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,040
wasted all this time.
I miss.

567
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,160
Yeah.
Your kids now are like seniors

568
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,480
in high school.
You know what?

569
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,560
No, we are not.
No, no, because she definitely

570
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,000
would not let him.
No, but.

571
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,600
Mandy had a ballet recital you
missed.

572
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,560
It was great.
That was in May, but we figured

573
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,680
you were going to come home in
August for the first week of

574
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,720
school.
No, I just.

575
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,160
You see that's see, but that
stuff could happen.

576
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,680
I know because it it's so
everything is so uncertain.

577
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,000
Yeah.
And then the traveling back then

578
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,040
will take time.
It takes time.

579
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,320
Yeah, because you can't just get
on a a plane and fly back to

580
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,200
North Carolina and try to find
the gold, I mean.

581
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,240
You go to North Carolina and
it's traveling North Carolina,

582
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,760
then it's traveling back home.
But OK back home.

583
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,080
But this is the thing that I
don't think Rob Cameron gets.

584
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,720
So let's say he takes Jim
through the stones.

585
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,120
Let's say he gets on a boat in
Inverness.

586
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,800
He makes it all the way back to
North Carolina and he goes

587
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,080
towards The Cave.
You.

588
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,160
Well, actually, no, the yeah,
the goat is in North Carolina.

589
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,160
You actually think that Jeremiah
is not going to try to get away

590
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,680
and go find his granddad?
You.

591
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,160
You are putting yourself too
close to danger because you

592
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,480
don't know that Jamie and Claire
have left.

593
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,200
You don't know that they're in
New York.

594
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,960
That's what I'm saying, he may
change his mind and that throws

595
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,960
off the time it just you.
Can't.

596
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,000
But that's something you can't
just change.

597
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,120
You don't went through some
stones and went 200 years into

598
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,800
the past.
You can't just oh, I don't like

599
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,640
this, I'm going to go back.
No, you got to commit.

600
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,640
You do got to commit and then
you don't know when you're going

601
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,760
to be placed like where, what
time you going to be placed.

602
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,920
If he doesn't know the insurance
and outs of time travel, we.

603
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Don't even know the insurance
and outs of time travel and we

604
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,080
they don't even know the is and
out of time travel.

605
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,520
That's true, but it works for
them.

606
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,880
But we.
Don't know, but we don't.

607
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,080
Again, we don't know who Rob
Cameron is.

608
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,840
He may have had experience,
that's he may know.

609
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Just like.
David Duncan We may know more,

610
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,840
because I think Gaylis knew a
whole lot more than she.

611
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,040
Had a whole notebook of research
that she had done.

612
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,000
Real research.
Yes.

613
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,400
And so everyone else is just
going through don't know, but it

614
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,920
works for them.
We just don't know.

615
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,760
Because if I go through the
stones, I'm not going to end up

616
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,920
where I'm supposed to be.
Because you're going to be

617
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,679
thinking of all kinds of things,
right?

618
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,719
So and and that's how.
It but it works it and it works

619
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,280
for them and that's, but that's
why we have missing travelers

620
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,920
because they didn't know,
because they didn't know, they

621
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,440
didn't know.
I mean, at least Roger and

622
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,679
Brianna, at least they know the
basics.

623
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,120
They know we have to focus on
us, but they learned that from

624
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:52,719
that one time when they they
didn't go nowhere and they had

625
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,560
to say, what were you thinking
of we.

626
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,600
Were thinking of.
Home.

627
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,360
We were thinking of home so
clearly.

628
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,800
So clearly.
We need to be, so we have to be

629
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,040
thinking.
Right, like where we need to be?

630
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,880
Well, when Mandy needed to
leave, we had to think we need

631
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,560
to go to the future 'cause we
need to save our baby.

632
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,360
So that's their mindset.
So they ended up in the future.

633
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,880
We we need to go find Uncle Joe
so he can fix me.

634
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,560
Right.
So you got to, you have to like

635
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,360
put it on the right channel.
Right now, since I mentioned

636
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:29,280
that, I will say this as far as
what happens in the books, I'm

637
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,800
not going to spoil what happens
in the books because again, they

638
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,760
could change it in the show.
But one of the things that I

639
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,680
will say is that we do see Joe
Abernathy again in the books.

640
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,480
And I really hope that they
bring him back in the show, even

641
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:48,000
if it's just for an episode,
because yes, Brianna has Fiona

642
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,400
there in Scotland, but Joe is
like family as well.

643
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,760
And when all of this is
happening, she does need

644
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,960
somebody to kind of lean on.
And she does reach out to Joe.

645
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:04,120
So I hope we do get to see him
again in the back half of Season

646
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,240
7.
That would be nice.

647
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:10,360
But I will say this her her
having to watch Rodger go

648
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,320
through the stones.
That was tough.

649
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,680
That was tough and 'cause you, I
just feel like we're about to

650
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,400
see a whole different side of
Brianna.

651
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:21,400
Because you don't.
You don't.

652
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,720
You don't see like you you.
But I will say this if they

653
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,560
going to be OK, but I will say
this, if you look at, if you pay

654
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,320
attention to the way Mandy is
behaving, I kind of feel like

655
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,160
for me, that's telling me
everything is going to be OK

656
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,680
'cause she's like my dad.
I mean, and she's like, she's

657
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,640
not, she's not worried, she's
not crying.

658
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,320
She's like, this is a child who
has full confidence that her dad

659
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,240
is going to find her brother and
bring him home.

660
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,000
She's like.
But she could have a mixture of

661
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,000
the traveling and Jamie's.
Yeah, we we talked about that

662
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,000
shiny.
So we talked about that.

663
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,880
So she she.
Couldn't you should know like it

664
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,400
it's going to like she just
couldn't have feelings like

665
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,880
this.
This will work out.

666
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,200
I mean, I don't know why they up
in arms right now, but I get why

667
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,800
they up in arms because I'm not
hearing yeah, but I know that

668
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,000
it's going to be OK, yeah, that
it will work out.

669
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,000
So.
So that's all that's, that's all

670
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,600
we can we can do.
Let's just hope it works out,

671
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,480
hope Rob Cameron gets what's
coming to him because.

672
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,840
Hey, because it's causing a
whole lot of mess.

673
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,600
And for what?
I don't know and and that that

674
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,160
that is that reason better be
great.

675
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,640
It better be not from not from
the rider.

676
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,720
It has to be great.
Like I need him to be having

677
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,200
some real.
You need to I need you to be

678
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,040
coming out there strong.
You want to do this.

679
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,640
You come out there strong and
say this is the reason why I

680
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,320
did.
Right.

681
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,280
And stick to it.
And it like you said, even

682
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,320
though there is no good reason,
there is no good reason, but

683
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,440
there could be a good motivation
this this polite that he might

684
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,480
have been, he might have said, I
mean, because he did make that

685
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,040
he did make that comment to them
about his divorce.

686
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,880
And he was like, you know, the
people, the lawyers with the

687
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,960
most money, you know, they tend
to win these things.

688
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,080
Maybe he's thinking of the
French gold because he wants it

689
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,320
to try to get his son back.
You can understand that.

690
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,360
You can't even empathize with
that.

691
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,480
Kidnap another kid for your kid.
But you know, I I got but I can

692
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,160
I can see where that might in
his head make sense.

693
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,960
So if that's it, I might be a
little more lenient.

694
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,320
But for the most part now,
because you could have just

695
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,400
because the, the way you went
about it was all really sneaky

696
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,880
and really devious.
And yeah, I just, I don't, I

697
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,320
don't like it.
So yeah.

698
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,360
So we'll wait and see how that
goes.

699
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,280
But like we said, Jamie and
Claire and Ian, they are

700
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,800
actually able to go back to
Scotland because when Simon

701
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,200
Fraser dies, they, you know, the
British has already been

702
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,120
defeated.
So they're working out terms of

703
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,040
surrender.
Well, one of the terms that they

704
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,640
bring to General Gates is that
Simon Fraser has always

705
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,200
expressed his opinion that if he
fell on the battlefield, he

706
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,600
would like to be buried back
home in Scotland.

707
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,000
We are requesting as part of our
terms of surrender for his

708
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,960
kinsmen to take him back to
Scotland because his men loved

709
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,520
him and they they respected him
and they wanted him to have his

710
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,880
last wishes fulfilled.
So Jamie, Claire and Ian get to

711
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,560
go back to Scott.
Ian, during this episode finally

712
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,800
declares, well, I won't say he
declares.

713
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,440
He kind of makes it known to
Rachel.

714
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,960
That he had.
Saying for but he wasn't like, I

715
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,280
love you, you know, but.
Basically like kiss someone back

716
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,400
then.
Yeah, that's that's A and.

717
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,040
He's not.
He's not a man just to take

718
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,160
liberty.
That that is.

719
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,240
True, so that means him kissing
her.

720
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,000
It meant something.
And he was.

721
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,120
That meant he was.
Ready and even though she

722
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,120
slapped him, they, they had a
little conversation and then

723
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,240
they they came back together
again.

724
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:16,440
So that's and she he left.
He left the roller with him, his

725
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,360
dog, so yeah, so.
That kind of tells you.

726
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,560
That that that does tell you.
And if that didn't tell you?

727
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,760
We really thought we was done
with this dude.

728
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,720
Rachel is taking Rolo for a
walk.

729
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:39,480
Rolo find someone that he's like
very comfortable with and he

730
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,480
goes up and greets him in his
motherfucking arch bug.

731
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:51,160
And if that didn't tell you that
Ian loves you, he was like Bug

732
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,040
confirms it.
Because she was like, Oh no, he

733
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,080
belongs to a friend who's gone
abroad.

734
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,800
I'm just watching until he comes
back.

735
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,840
Oh, your friend must really love
you to leave his beast with you

736
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,280
or to leave his dog with you.
And the way that she just kind

737
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,240
of smiled, Archbald was like,
Yep.

738
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,000
Yep, I'm coming back.
That's what I'm waiting for.

739
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,760
I was like.
I'll see you guys in like a few

740
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,360
months.
It might be longer than that

741
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,720
because we don't know, we we
don't know how long the journey

742
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,680
is from New York to Scotland.
We don't.

743
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,360
We don't.
Want them to It can't be a turn

744
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,640
around and the sad.
Part of you.

745
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,360
You've been gone for years.
Bug should be be dying of old

746
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,360
age, but he's going to stay
alive until he get his revenge.

747
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,040
That's the.
Sad part that is the thing let's

748
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,160
keep.
Sitting around, for one, he's

749
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,320
just going to keep watch.
So that means again, camera can

750
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,360
be one of those things that
they're on the side.

751
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,960
So Bug is on the sidelines
constantly watching them.

752
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,280
So he's going to be watching
Rachel to see when Ian comes

753
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,720
back.
I just need that, man.

754
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,120
I I just need everybody to leave
the phrases the fuck alone.

755
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:04,480
But I think I've been saying I.
Am saying has already been

756
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,400
through things I can't take any
more I.

757
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,520
Know.
For him, because I was anymore

758
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,560
like any other family, we've all
been through they they have, but

759
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,920
it's something about Jamie and
Claire got each other.

760
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,880
It's like they got you see what
I'm saying?

761
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:27,880
They got but Ian, he got it too.
But damn, let him have a happy

762
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,040
just a sliver, you know what I'm
saying?

763
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,920
Sliver because if you think
about it OK so I've been re

764
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,520
watching all of the old
episodes.

765
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,680
I started right after Dragon
Con, so back in September I

766
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,760
started all the way from the
beginning.

767
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,760
So this week I have been in
season 6.

768
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,920
So I'm going through all of the
Malva Christie stuff now, and I

769
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,440
was reminded that Ian and Malva
slept together only once.

770
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,480
But it was because he felt like
at that time, he wasn't ready to

771
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,440
move on from Emily.
And he told her he didn't want

772
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,640
to take advantage of her.
And he felt like that was the

773
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,640
reason why she accused Jamie,
because she was taking it out on

774
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,680
him.
You know, like, oh, is she a

775
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,400
woman?
Scorn.

776
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:18,120
And so to think about his his
behavior then, like this is a

777
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,080
man who did that.
And he immediately felt regret,

778
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,320
like, oh, I'm so sorry.
I can't do this to you.

779
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,440
I'm not ready.
And most men wouldn't do that,

780
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,360
right?
Most men wouldn't do that.

781
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,040
So the fact that he even put
himself out there for Rachel,

782
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,840
you know that he's ready to to
move forward, especially now

783
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,920
that he knows.
You know, I think it's because

784
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,360
he, he knows.
He knows that.

785
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,640
He knows that he has fun.
Yeah, he knows.

786
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:49,640
And, and, and so he's he's able
to to, to move forward, to find

787
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,240
love.
Again.

788
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:52,720
Then we got bugs just sitting
over here in the corner like a

789
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:54,840
bug.
You know what, I just, I just

790
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,560
need him.
However, and that's why I

791
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,840
totally at the end on the on the
ship, totally miss Jamie's

792
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,760
reaction for being home because
I was thinking about Ian because

793
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,680
out Ian left was yeah, when he
was young.

794
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,400
He is like being through right,
even from in the Caribbean all

795
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,440
the way up to this point.
And now you get back to see your

796
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,000
mom and dad and you're back home
and your siblings.

797
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,000
So like, I just I don't know.
I just was really feeling him.

798
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,520
And then I feel Jamie, too,
because it's your homeland and.

799
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,040
You thought you would never get
back to Sky.

800
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,720
Never.
So especially after, like, they

801
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:38,560
left the Ridge a year ago, more
than a year ago, if I'm not

802
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,600
mistaken.
Yeah.

803
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,520
So you've been trying to get
back home to Scotland for a year

804
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,080
and now you're finally there,
finally home.

805
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,920
So I just.
But I was like this, I was just

806
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,800
crying.
I was like, Scotland, they're

807
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,600
back in Scotland, They made it
to Scotland.

808
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,400
Well, the ship has made it
within land sight.

809
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,400
We're not talking like that.
They made it whole.

810
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,000
Damn you about to say something
about to happen.

811
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,200
I'm.
Just he ain't.

812
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,600
Just about to see his mom and
dad.

813
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,440
That's what I need when we watch
this episode in a few minutes.

814
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,760
I need him to hug his mom and
dad.

815
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,080
I want to cry about that and
nothing else in between.

816
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,120
Yeah, I I'm just saying them and
boats don't do don't do

817
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,440
something.
I'm standing next.

818
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,640
But however they see the land,
if they need to get off that

819
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,760
damn ship and swim themselves,
they can do it.

820
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,040
OK, I have all the faith in the
world.

821
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,040
Right?
All right, so they're home.

822
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,400
OK, they're home.
We're saying they're home.

823
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:38,680
Scotland.
OK, he's not going to be

824
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,040
arrested.
They're home it.

825
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:43,720
Should be because he's been
pardoned for literally

826
00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:46,000
everything he's ever done and.
That's a lot.

827
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,480
A lot.
So yeah, he, he, this should be

828
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,720
a very peaceful.
Visit, right?

829
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,160
And that's what I want to see,
so OK.

830
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:04,080
So I think that's pretty much
covers this Episode 8, right?

831
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,680
Yeah, 'cause we talked about
everything.

832
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,960
Roger made, the point, the Simon
Frazier stuff, them seeing

833
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:15,120
William, Rachel, Archbug.
So yeah, we hit all the points.

834
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,200
So what we're about to do is
we're going to go and watch

835
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,800
Episode 9 and then we're going
to come back and we're going to

836
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,120
record about that.
So for now, that's it for our

837
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,960
show.
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838
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,080
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839
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,720
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840
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,640
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841
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843
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,040
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844
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