Outlander S7E9 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #322

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Michelle and we are
discussing the return of

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Outlander Season 7 Episode 9.
Drought Lander is over.

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Yes, yes, yes.
Finally, and we are back in

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Scotland.
But this episode here.

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You ain't even gonna give me a
minute.

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How do you feel about this
episode, Michelle?

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It was great.
I mean, the reunion was great,

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but all the other stuff in
between?

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You mean in between you look
you.

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You mean from the beginning of
the episode?

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You start the episode with Simon
Fraser's funeral.

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Then when Ian reunites with his
family he sees his brothers.

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One of his brothers is there
from France and he's like did

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you bring your wife?
No, she died 2 weeks ago from

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influenza.
And then Dan?

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And then you find out that Big
Ian has consumption and has been

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sick.
And the crazy thing is, when

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Claire asks Jenny how long he's
had the cough, she said.

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You remember when it came back
from the toll booth?

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Never.
It never went away.

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What that's?
A long time.

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That's a long time that was wow.
Claire was gone when they were

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searching for the dumb bonding
so and when I say they do look

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he looked like horrible like.
But I still had some fight in

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him 'cause he he was able to
walk in and out when he left.

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So I completely enjoyed it.
But that's yes, but that was.

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You weren't prepared for that.
I wasn't either.

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I was like.
No, 'cause I, I was wondering

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like, why, why didn't they come
out?

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But now I know and something is
so sad because Ian, them looking

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at him, that's the last time
they're gonna see him.

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So that's like, that was
horrible.

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But I'm glad we got this time.
Yeah.

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And I know.
And I love that it was a good

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time for Jamie to come back
because Jenny needed that, A

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reminder of who she is and what
she has accomplished.

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Yeah.
So when Ian goes, she can get

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back on track.
But when I tell you when I read

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this in the books, I was like,
so you mean when when the show

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comes back, you mean that we're
going back to Scotland just to

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be with Ian for however long he
has?

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And I was so mad when I read it
because I was like my Ian, my

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Ian.
But y'all couldn't let let now

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let.
Me.

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Let me let.
Me not, let me not say that, but

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because I don't want to wish
death on her character.

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She was just, she was just
horrible.

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But she wasn't, she wasn't a Rob
camera so.

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Oh no.
And it and to be completely

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honest, Leary had her false, but
you got to kind of see the time

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period and what was happening.
And she really thought that

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somehow in the beginning,
beginning, Jamie had feelings.

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For her, which she wasn't wrong
about as far as you know,

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thinking that because Jamie.
Was using her right so to make

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Claire jealous, right?
And then later when she gets

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with them and stuff, she thought
that would change things and

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that just didn't.
OK, so this is the this is the

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part that kind of bothers me
about the way that they're

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telling the story in the show as
opposed to the books, because it

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kind of it makes it seem like
Jamie just didn't try with

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Leary.
And I think that that was.

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I don't think he I didn't feel
like he didn't in the show.

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Well, go, if you go by what she
says in the argument that she

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has with him in this episode,
she's like, you never saw me,

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you know, you just pitied me,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And if you remember when Jamie
was first telling Claire about

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the marriage and about what, you
know, what made him marry her

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and stuff, you know, he talks
about how he could never be

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intimate with her because she
was shy away from him.

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So in the books, if I remember
correctly, because it has been a

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few years since I've read that
particular part of the books

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when he talks about his marriage
to Leary.

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So when they get married in the
books, yes, he marries her

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mostly for the kids, but he's
like, OK, well, I'm going to try

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to, you know, make this work,
blah, blah, blah.

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And he does try to be a good
husband to her.

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He tries to be intimate with
her.

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But like he said in the show as
well, she was always very sullen

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with him.
She was very angry.

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There were days when she would
not, just would not speak to

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him.
And we all know Jamie.

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Jamie is one of those people.
He is very big on communication

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with his wife.
He's very affectionate.

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He's very, he's very much a
sexual being.

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He's very much a physical being.
So he moved out because he

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didn't want to feel like he was
trying to force himself on her

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when she very clearly didn't
want him.

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So in the books, I can't
remember if this is while they

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were actually married or
afterwards.

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There was a there was a scene
where he comes back to the

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house, he's outside the house
and he hears like this kind of

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guttural grown like this,
whatever, kind of like he, he

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describes it in the book, I
believe it's like animalistic in

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nature.
And he happens to look in the

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window and Leary is in the house
having this like really, really

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rough sex with some guy.
I don't know.

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I don't think it was the same
guy that she is involved with

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here in the show.
But it was one of those things

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where he he was angry about it
because he was like, I tried to

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be a good husband.
I tried to be a loving husband.

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He knew that her first two
marriages were rough on her.

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You know, she had husbands who
beat her, beat the kids, had

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husbands who were not gentle
with her in that in that

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physical sense.
And he was just trying to be a

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good husband to her.
And he was like, if this is what

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she want, like, like she pursued
me for years.

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She wanted me for all this time.
She damn, they care about killed

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my wife trying to get to me.
And then when she finally has

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me, she doesn't even want me.
But then she goes and she's with

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this.
Like, he was really pissed about

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it in the books.
Like it hurt his pride.

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It hurt his, you know, his
manhood.

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And so when Claire is jesting
with him at the beginning of

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this episode, when he tells her
he's going to see Lyra, she was

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like, well, you know, if you
just want to know who she's

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sleeping with, there's other
ways to find out.

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It felt out of place to me
because you don't know what that

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background is, you know?
But other than that, there

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weren't too many things that I
didn't like about the.

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Episode now go back because we
were talking about in the book

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you were like he tried but in
the episodes on the show I felt

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that he did try with her.
Yeah, but but I did her.

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Her perspective and sense of
reality was just off.

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And she felt wounded that he
made a choice.

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Yeah.
And that choice was clear.

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And even though she still had,
she got him in the not at the

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end, but at that point she got
him.

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He still wasn't hers.
Yeah, but you know what?

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And I would say this, and again,
this is attitudes.

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In this time.
Yeah, attitudes in this time and

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also the wait because everybody
falls in love so quickly in the

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in in the 1700s.
But if you knew like as much as

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he went through with Claire,
even in the beginning when they

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came back to LYAC and he made it
clear that, yeah, I'm, I'm going

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to stick with her.
This is my wife.

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I want to be with her for you to
keep trying over and over to get

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with this man.
I'm sorry if I don't want to say

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she got what she deserved, but
stop.

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Stop fawning and stop trying to
get a man.

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But she still kind of thought he
did in the beginning.

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It's still this episode when she
asking him.

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So you really didn't care?
Okay, and again, this goes back

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to all these people catching
feelings when he took that

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beating for her, she said I
thought you did it because you

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loved me.
But she knew even before then,

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like he didn't really pay
attention to her.

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Right.
But but you would think that he

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was being shy.
So I'm saying like people would

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be thinking.
So like for example, let's say

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Ian Rachel has the dog.
Clearly they kiss, but he still

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hadn't really confessed his
feelings.

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He left his dog right.
I'm just using this example.

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So but if he turned around and
came back with a wife, she'd be

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like, well, I mean, you wasn't
direct, but I just assume and

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that's like, well, maybe he was
shy, maybe I feel.

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But when he took that beating,
he was actually confessing his

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love.
I'm just trying to help her out.

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OK, we can move on.
We don't need to help her.

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Out we can.
You don't need to help.

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But you know, it's it's over
now.

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Yes, yeah, that's over.
And she marrying her Boo.

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Yes, and he's finally done with
her because we'll talk about the

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knocks on the door.
But Joni appears and talks to

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him because she wants to go into
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She wants to become a nun, and
Leary is withholding her dowry

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so that she can't go.
And I'm like, Leary, OK, you

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know what?
This is the one thing I don't

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like about Leary's character.
And I understand.

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Again, it's the times.
Whatever.

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But you are literally holding
off on your own happiness

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because of money.
And land well, because she's

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been on that land.
For years.

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But here's the thing, if that's
what it was, you could have

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talked all this stuff, all this
talk about the alimony and you

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haven't been sending me the
money and blah blah blah.

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If he was holding bow rigging
and trusty ship and that was her

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main thing, she could have just
said, you know what, give me bow

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rigging and all bets are off.
I can do whatever I need to do,

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but.
She wasn't going to do that.

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She wasn't going to do.
That but.

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'Cause he couldn't even figure
that out.

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It had to be Jamie, Joni had to
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You can come up with a solution,
wink, wink.

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I don't.
Think Jamie I.

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Don't even thought about it.
And that's.

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The problem too he.
Wasn't thinking about it 'cause

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he was just like.
Send money.

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I mean, she got the land, I'll
send the money.

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No, you need to finalize these
things.

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Like she is in the holding
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I'm going to be on her side on
this one, OK?

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Because she does love Joey the
farmer.

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However, if we get married, then
we don't have a place to to

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live.
I've been here years.

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And I get that, but that's why
now.

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And and this man has so no
interest of either saying it's

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over.
Here's the land like nothing.

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So she doesn't know what he is
thinking.

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So she's like, well, I'm just
going to keep doing what I'm

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going to do.
However, Jamie should have

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realized, but you know what?
He didn't realize 'cause he

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really don't care.
It took the funeral for him to

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realize, well, maybe I need to
go apologize and close this.

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Yeah, part of my life.
Because I mean, he's been so far

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removed from it, but also he
could have been just making.

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And you acting like she don't
talk to Marsley.

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Right, but no.
But I'm thinking the reason why

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he may have kept bow rigging in
his trusty ship was to make sure

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that she didn't do any, you
know, 'cause she probably could

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have if he knew.
If he let me, let me.

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He didn't even try it.
I don't even think it's that it.

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I think he probably kept holding
on to it to make sure it will be

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there for Joni and Marsley if
they ever wanted to go back.

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Maybe that's where his he could.
Have put that in, Rodney.

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But you know what?
He's been busy, but he.

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Didn't think, but you know what?
And at the and at the time, he

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was just trying to get, he was
just trying to make that

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annulment go through so he could
live his happy life.

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And they they.
Think about it, they had not

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thought about her one be it you
know when he when it comes to

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mine, sometimes sometimes when
Marcy turn to serve way he'd be

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right.
Man, I, I think I do need to

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take care of some of these.
And then it goes away and he and

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then they back dealing with the
issues that they got in here.

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Like, that's really probably the
only time he thought about it.

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And he came home and he was
like.

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Let me go.
Close.

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It closes.
Think about this a few years.

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Ago and for all right so yeah he
got her out of his his life now

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he gave her bow rigging told her
that you know you go get married

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you can have this house but he
did make he did when you die

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when you die it does not go to
your husband he's.

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Back there like Joy the father
like I'll shit with that.

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I just want to manage exactly
take care of me exactly I'm.

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Good and Joni is going to go to
the convent.

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He's like, go to.
Right now I will say this about

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about them coming back to
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I love that they got back as
many of the original actors as

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they could.
Like we know they they had to re

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catch Jenny, but it was OK.
I was really worried about like

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how I was going to feel about
this new person being Jenny

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because she was such a force in
the few episodes that we we got

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to see her and know her and love
her.

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But yeah, I, I think this new
actress, Kristen is her name.

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I think she's going to be good.
Yeah, and you know what helped

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that they older.
Yes.

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So then you could be like, oh,
it's a change in her 'cause like

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he has grandkids.
I can spend some time so I can.

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My brain made the quick
adjustment.

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What it did make adjustment for
was damn, your siblings are old.

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I was like, wait a second.
You mean Ian's siblings?

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Yeah.
You have to remember he's also,

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he's also the baby.
And no.

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And that was like, oh, it's good
about them.

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Right.
Or the he's the youngest son.

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I can't remember if he's the
youngest.

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He's the youngest son.
Kid, kid.

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But yeah, they're all like,
grown and yeah, grandchildren

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and.
A lot of grandkids.

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Yeah, because I think even when
Claire came back after the 20

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years, when she was in the
house, Jenny was holding one of

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Michael's newest babies and she
was telling she was saying that

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he had four at that time.
Yeah, so he was already grown

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and and procreating and
everything so that.

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Threw me off.
Even Ian was like, hey, what,

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Michael?
Yeah, OK, yeah.

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But yeah, OK.
So so let's talk about this home

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going a little bit because even
like you said, even though Ian

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is sick and I think I said this
when we're watching, I said how

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y'all made finance Stephen Creed
look like he was a minute from a

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minute from death's door.
Just I was like, are we gonna

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see him die in this episode?
Because that I would not be

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ready for.
I thought it was gonna happen

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so.
And we, we at least get him for

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one more episode at least.
But you know, I don't know how

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long they're gonna keep Jamie in
Scotland because Claire does

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have to go back and Jamie stays
behind.

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But we'll, we'll get to that as
well.

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But just seeing the old family,
seeing Jamie and Claire be with

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the Murray's again, seeing ON
have his sense of humor when

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they're talking about, you know,
his impending sickness.

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And he was like, look, I could
be dead tomorrow.

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I could be dead in a year, I'll
wager 3 months myself.

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And Jamie was like, how would
you, how you going to collect

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your old coop?
And I was like, OK, I like this.

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I'm one of those people.
I don't like the, the, the dread

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and drum that come the, the
dread and drum.

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I don't like the dread and doom
that comes with death.

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Storylines are just death in
general.

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I'm one of those people.
Like when people have weird

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sense of humor or dark sense of
humor when it comes to facing

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their own mortality.
That's kind of my speed anyway.

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So to see him still be in those
kinds of like, you know, every

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time we've seen Ian and Jamie,
they've always gone back and

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forth.
Jamie being serious and Ian

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being the one that's kind of
cracking jokes.

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So to see that with this, I
loved it.

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I love the fact that Claire
finally, finally told.

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Them.
Yeah, that was nice, that.

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She is from the future and I
love the look that they had

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'cause you see, when she's
facing them, she's telling

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Michael, Ian and Jenny.
I don't think she told any of

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the other kids, but they're all
sitting there looking at her

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life.
Huh.

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And but Jenny Brain starts
moving.

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And ends too cause Engle was
just sitting there.

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Like this makes some sense here.
Yeah, this really explains why

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you didn't come back to my
brother for 20 years, because

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she, that was one of the things
she said bothered her the most.

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She said, I remember sitting on
these stairs when the Red Coats

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took him and you, she said we
went to go look for him.

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You didn't.
I mean, she literally crossed

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the whole countryside looking
for James.

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So it all, it never sat right
with Jenny.

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That Claire just, oh, I just
assumed he was dead and I'm not

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going to come back.
Yeah, and not even even go to

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the house and be like, you know,
he's dead.

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Can I grieve here?
Yeah.

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And you are gone.
Gone.

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Gone so.
That explains it.

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Yeah.
So I'm, I'm glad that they know

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now because I think it makes it,
it makes it easier because now

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Jenny can stop being so
suspicious of her when she tells

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her to do something.
I mean, she wasn't as suspicious

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back then, but you know, Jenny,
Jenny, OK.

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Jamie said this to Claire when
he was joking about going to

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Lyrias.
He was like, Claire.

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You're not usually one to go
hold a grudge.

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Jenny absolutely does.
And Jenny been mad at Claire for

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a lot of reasons for a lot for a
long.

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Time And Claire was actually mad
at her too.

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Yeah, she was like, you've been
holding the grudge.

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Like you've been holding the
grudge because I told you about

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his name.
Claire's like I.

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Don't care, really care.
I mean, we've been together the

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last 10 years now.
I don't care.

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I don't care Like this is Claire
is very secure in her marriage.

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She's very secure with where she
is in the world.

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And she, no, Larry, don't hold
the candle to her.

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Sorry, Larry, you don't.
So that was just a momentary

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hiccup.
But also, if we remember

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correctly, Jamie was just about
to tell Claire about the

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marriage when the kids bust in.
So it's not like he wasn't going

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to do it.
But this is a woman you have not

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seen for 20 years, somebody that
you thought was dead.

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The first thing you going to say
is not going to be.

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Oh, yeah, I have another.
What?

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No, because you don't know what
this is about to be.

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I mean.
And even during that reunion, he

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was like, so Art, did you just
come back to bring me news of my

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daughter or are you planning on
staying like.

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Yeah, like, what is this right?
Yeah, well, for that long she

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could have fell in love with
someone else.

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But she could have been like,
oh, I'm going to come and give

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you.
I'm going to come and give you

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news of your daughter.
And then I'm going back to the

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20th century.
So he was probably like, look,

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let me hit it while I it's.
Claire.

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Wait, Claire's not going to hold
a grudge about that?

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And not to Jenny, of all people,
because she, I mean, if you

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think about it, she understood
what Jenny was doing.

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Jenny was trying to make sure
that Jamie stayed righteous,

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that Jamie did what he was
supposed to do.

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And she also, let's, let's be
honest, she was trying to get

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the truth.
She was trying to figure out

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where Claire had been.
And she probably used that

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opportunity to try to force the
truth out of her.

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But Claire, Claire is not going
to hold a grudge for that.

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And I'm glad that at the end,
she finally realized that she

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was like, I trust in your love
for our family.

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Yes, 'cause Claire has loved
your family from day one.

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I think Claire understood that
she was just really talking out

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for Greece.
She just don't want Ian to die.

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And then you find out this woman
to be magical, you're not really

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quite sure they can give you the
quite all the details.

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She just has knowledge.
You just like please help him.

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And like Claire said, and I'm
mad that she can't help him.

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You think Claire's not mad?
She.

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Can't.
But you know, that's what I'm

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saying.
So at the end she apologized

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because she knew, you know, it
was just me.

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Just saying I just don't want my
man to die.

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Yeah, because you see how long
you know, how long she's loved

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them because let's get.
To.

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That Let's get to these parts.
So yes.

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So while Claire is sitting there
telling them that she's from the

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future, there's a knock at the
door.

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And at the same time, Rodger and
Buck have arrived in Scotland.

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OK, they've arrived in Scotland.
They're looking for Rob and

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Jimmy.
They decide to split up.

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Buck is going to go to Inverness
and see and Roger tells him he

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was like, well Jimmy knows these
stones because I've I've brought

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him here before so he wouldn't
be caught unawares.

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He knows how to get home from
the stones.

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So if he was able to get away
from Rob Cameron, maybe he went

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back to Lolly Brock.
So Roger heads towards Lolly

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Brock.
Now.

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Now I already knew what was
going to happen because I read

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the books.
I was finally Michelle was like.

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Wait the same time.
Are they going to say are they?

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Going to knock on the door.
Oh my God, this will be perfect.

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I was ready.
I was ready, but in the back of

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my mind and it was misdirection
because they're having it all at

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the same time and I'm like, this
is going to be helping.

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Fantastic.
We going to get the whole family

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help here and they get to meet
Roger, but it's staying and

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Joni.
Johnny was on at at Jamie's

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door, and the door that Roger
knocked on was still.

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Molly Brock.
But it is Jamie's dad and I'm

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telling y'all, that's what I
said.

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You don't know how to use the
stones.

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This man now is way out of time.
Roger.

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You are before Jamie.
Meet Claire Time.

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Yeah, he ends up in either, I
think he said it was 1935 or

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1939 or 1940.
He was doing some quick.

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He was trying to do that math.
It's him all night.

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Be like, OK, Jamie's at college,
right?

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He's 18 or 19.
That means, you know, because

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one Rodger already looks out of
place because he's got the short

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hair.
So he already looks out of

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place.
But Brian Fraser, when he

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answers the door, and, you know,
of course, Rogers in shock

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because he was like, he thought
it was Mr. Murray.

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No, this is Brian Fraser.
This is.

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Yeah.
So he's sitting there trying to

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figure it out.
And of course, Brian Fraser's

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looking at him like, dude, you
OK?

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And he was like, oh, yeah, I'm
so sorry.

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So my son has been taken by a
man named Rob Cameron.

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Have you seen him?
And so he starts trying to

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recover himself.
And all the time, one of the

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things about the episode, we're
getting a lot of inner dialogue.

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So we're getting all of Roger's
inner dialogue, which kind of

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threw me off because we don't
really usually get Roger's inner

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voice.
And at one point I was like, did

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he say that out loud or did he
say in his head when he said

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Jenny, I didn't know.
No, you didn't say it like

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Forrest Gump because.
Because.

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We were Roger Ginny.
This is where.

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Roger got in trouble last time.
I need you to stop looking at

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these women a certain way when
you be like, oh, I know you are.

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You know, to the point that the
man had to say, my daughter

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already has.
A boyfriend.

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Well, not a boyfriend.
She has a crush on somebody

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that's on, in, on in.
But and then you had to say, oh,

448
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,520
oh, I got it.
You should have just said, oh,

449
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,680
she looked like my sister.
Instead you were like, oh, I got

450
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,520
a wife.
That make you even look worse

451
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,840
because that means you've got a
wife.

452
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,800
But you're looking at this
young.

453
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,880
Girl, right, Right.
I need him to stop when he comes

454
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,800
in contact with a family member
and he's just looking at him

455
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,480
because he's just like, wow,
he's in shock.

456
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,320
Yeah, stop.
Look at the floor.

457
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,280
Look up at the sky, look to the
right and look to the left, and

458
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,560
then refocus yourself.
But he was also, I think, and

459
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,120
well, I know.
That's the second time.

460
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:27,720
No, I know.
Time he got home.

461
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,760
No, actually that it's the third
time, third time because don't

462
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,240
forget about what's the name,
the widow that he was building a

463
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,760
cabin for even though he wasn't
looking at her like that, but

464
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,240
still he was spending a little.
Yeah, that was, I would say

465
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,400
that's him because he used the
other one was a relative.

466
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,080
And and he got caught up in that
and he got home for that.

467
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,280
OK.
And this time around, you better

468
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,600
be lucky that dad is nice and
just said, honey, she has a

469
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,440
crush.
And clearly it's more than a

470
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,800
crush when everybody know about
it.

471
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,240
Right.
So Jenny goes to get Rodger.

472
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,240
When when they're going out to
Murray and Jim.

473
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,000
My son's not here, so clearly
they know who you come over here

474
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,480
for.
Right.

475
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:16,160
But OK, even with that 19391940
where they are right now,

476
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,760
present day in 1778, that means
you have loved this man for 40

477
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,600
years and now you are you are
faced with the prospect of

478
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,760
losing him.
So I understand why she why she

479
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,160
reacted the way she reacted to
to Claire.

480
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,600
But going back to Rodger and
Lally Brock.

481
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,840
So yeah, Rodger ends up in
19391940.

482
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,720
I mean, 17391740, he does not
know how he got there.

483
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,480
He's like, did did Rob and Jim
travel to the wrong time too?

484
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,440
Like there's so many things that
he now has to really figure out

485
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,200
because technically speaking,
Roger doesn't know anybody in

486
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,320
this time.
Nobody.

487
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:03,880
Nobody.
Because he was trying to go 40

488
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,840
years ahead of where he ended
up.

489
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,760
How do you miscalculate by 40
years?

490
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,440
You can't calculate.
There is not a doubt on the

491
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,360
stones that's.
Something has to guide him we've

492
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:19,520
talked about.
But that was.

493
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,440
Certain.
People being magnets, right?

494
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,800
And here's the thing.
And what you're thinking and

495
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,360
what?
And you go to places for a

496
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:31,040
reason.
There is a purpose.

497
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,360
That's sad.
It's a purpose and a reason

498
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:37,160
Jamie, not Jamie Claire end up
where she was because of that

499
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,840
magnet and it was a purpose for
her to be there.

500
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,320
Her purpose, I hate to say it,
her purpose is Jamie.

501
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:53,120
So Roger purpose is his child.
But if they are not, if they

502
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,520
didn't travel through the
stones, then he won't have

503
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,280
anywhere to go, that is.
True.

504
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,840
Or.
If he or I don't want to say if

505
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,960
he, if he misdirected because
you know one of the things about

506
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,640
Roger's family, they have all
these different Jeremiahs now if

507
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,440
him and Buck both are thinking
of Jeremiah when they're going

508
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,160
through the stones.
That can mess you.

509
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,800
Up they could have been think
they could have traveled back 40

510
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,480
years that could have been
Buck's grandfather, great

511
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,720
grandfather or something that
they because you you have no way

512
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,360
of no.
Right.

513
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:39,080
That's what I'm saying so that
so Jeremiah and Cameron could be

514
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,520
anywhere, anytime they.
Could be anywhere.

515
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,880
I mean, they could, they really
could be in 2000s.

516
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:52,080
Let's see.
That's what I'm saying.

517
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,200
You we can't determine when
Claire went back.

518
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,360
Claire, when Claire went back
and it was, you know, years

519
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,360
later, she was just hoping that
it will be the same amount of

520
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,800
time.
It was 20 years.

521
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,640
But her heart again was saying I
want to see him.

522
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,960
So she was going to end up at
any point.

523
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,480
She was going to see him.
Yeah.

524
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,000
I mean, her heart's desire.
That was her, her main purpose,

525
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,280
her heart's desire.
That worked out right?

526
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,080
But also they they do know that
there is about a two.

527
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:29,200
It's like anytime that Claire
has traveled, it's always been

528
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,320
202 years.
Exactly.

529
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,280
So it's like when she was a
player.

530
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,600
It's not the same for everybody
else.

531
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,360
See, that's what my problems
are.

532
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,960
But we're going to leave it at
that.

533
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,320
So now he is.
He's with.

534
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,280
Family, even though they don't
know.

535
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,440
We don't know where Cameron is.
We don't know where Cameron is,

536
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,720
but and and.
But they're doing the right

537
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,240
thing asking everyone before you
get on the ship to North

538
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,800
Carolina.
This is true too.

539
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,680
But the other thing too is we
just talked about this when we

540
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,000
discussed episode 8.
You don't know what happens to

541
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,600
your body when you go through
the stones.

542
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,360
And we definitely see that with
Buck because when they first

543
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,280
come through the stones, he's
having heart issues, like almost

544
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,000
like a heart attack or he's
having an anxiety attack or

545
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000
something, but he has a hard
time breathing.

546
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,720
So they separate.
Like I said, Buck goes to

547
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,040
Inverness to check the ships.
Rodger goes to Lally, Brock,

548
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,640
Jenny while they while Brian and
Rodger are out trying to find

549
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:40,520
out if anybody has seen Rob or
Jim, Jenny finds them and she

550
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:46,560
says your kinsman William
McKenzie has taken I'll on his

551
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,800
way to Lally Brock.
He asked for you to come.

552
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:56,240
So Buck is not doing good.
And then they're like, OK, we

553
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,000
don't have a healer in these
parts, but there is a herbalist

554
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,480
a ways away.
So Roger's just kind of like,

555
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,000
OK, well, I guess the herbalist
is going to have to do because

556
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,760
obviously Claire is not there
yet.

557
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Because even when Claire went
back, it was 1743.

558
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,280
So they go into town, they knock
on the door for the herbalist

559
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,320
and I was sitting there looking
'cause I was looking at my

560
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,760
peripheral, 'cause I wanted to
see how Michelle was going to

561
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,600
react when the door opened.
And here is gave us Duncan.

562
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:42,080
So not only is it gave us Duncan
in 1939, this is Buck's mother

563
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,240
and Rodgers, what, 7 times great
grandmother, but you.

564
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,320
I was like, when I read this in
the book, I was like, oh, this

565
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,640
is going to be interesting.
Now, I don't know if they're

566
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,240
going to do exactly what they
did in the show as in the book,

567
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,640
but if they do, but.
SPOILERS Does Buck know his

568
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,520
mother?
No, he doesn't know that.

569
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,280
That's his mother.
Who was he raised by?

570
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,560
There was another Mackenzie
family that had lost their child

571
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,080
and so that's who Dougal gave
the child to, OK gave Gaylis's

572
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,960
baby to.
So he was raised by Mackenzie

573
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,400
still.
So you can't say nothing because

574
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,160
we need her to go her regular
married way and continue all the

575
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,160
shit she has done from here to
there.

576
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,240
All I'm.
Going to However, he's the only

577
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,120
person who can really understand
and guide you to what you need.

578
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,480
To do they're not going to ask
her nothing because we.

579
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Won.
I know.

580
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,600
I'm just saying she's the only
person who would who actually

581
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,960
knows.
She actually knows what's

582
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,480
happening and what to do.
But you know, we can't talk.

583
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,840
To her, yeah, but I mean, we
don't know if she knows what's

584
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,000
going on with him physically
because as far as we know, she.

585
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,240
Know, but she know about.
Friendly, yeah, but she didn't

586
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,520
have any issues traveling.
So if they come in and they're

587
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,440
like, oh, even if Rodger says
hey, I know you're a trap, first

588
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,080
of all, he can't have that
conversation with her because

589
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,320
then it's going to be like, how
do you know what I am?

590
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,080
And it's going to be a whole.
Bad question.

591
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,159
She needs to continue on the
path she's on.

592
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,120
Right.
And she didn't.

593
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:30,199
But, but oh, wait, wait.
But here's the thing.

594
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,159
Galis Duncan met Rodger before
she went through the stones in

595
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:39,960
1969, so this is not exactly a
stranger coming to her door.

596
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,320
But maybe she won't remember him
like you meet people.

597
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,280
Was he that did she RIP me like
she mad twice?

598
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,280
But did she meet him?
Did she meet him enough for him

599
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,639
to leave an impact?
Or did she meet him 'cause she

600
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,560
was at the college?
You meet a lot of people.

601
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:00,800
Yeah, but no, she specifically
spoke to him and Brianna at the

602
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,040
college, and then she saw them
again at the pub.

603
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,640
Right, but still to remember
what they look like.

604
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,080
Forget it's probably because
she's probably looked at Roger

605
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,440
and was like, oh, he's
attractive.

606
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,160
Right not to be his great,
great.

607
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:21,120
No, because like I said, Roger
now looks like he looks like

608
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,120
he's from the future, but he's
older, but he looks like I'm

609
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,760
trying to call for Alice.
She don't remember because he

610
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,960
has the short.
He has the short haircut.

611
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,880
We're going to have to start a
conversation about GAIL is after

612
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,560
this recording because I have
some.

613
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,880
Questions.
I'm just going to say it's going

614
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,200
to be a very interesting ride
from here.

615
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,800
That's all I'm going to say.
And what we have decided for

616
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,480
this remainder of season 7.
We will be watching the show

617
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,120
together and then recording.
So I'll be able to see all her

618
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,360
reactions.
We are recording our reactions.

619
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,960
If there's something that's like
really funny, I'll post it, but

620
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,760
I'm just at this point waiting
to see what they're going to

621
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,040
bring to the screen from the
books because I finished reading

622
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,600
the books for Dragon Con, so I'm
kind of sort of in the know now.

623
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,760
But of course they do make
changes from page to screen.

624
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,600
We've seen some of those
changes.

625
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,080
But I will say, even with what
we saw in this particular

626
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:27,440
episode, they did remain very
close to the books.

627
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:34,080
I think the only thing that was
really different of note for me

628
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,400
is the reason that Claire ends
up going back to the States.

629
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:41,760
So what happens is Jamie and
Claire are having a

630
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,520
conversation.
Jenny brings Claire some, you

631
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,720
know, a letter that she's
received.

632
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,040
And apparently it's it's from
Lord John.

633
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,000
He's been trying to get letters
to them, probably didn't know

634
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,680
where they were after they left
Fort Ticonderoga.

635
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,520
But he's been trying to get
letters to them because his

636
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,200
nephew was injured in battle,
has musket balls stuck in his

637
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,400
stomach.
None of the other physicians

638
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,240
there are able to do it.
And he's asking Claire to come

639
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,200
and send to his nephew so that
his nephew doesn't die.

640
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,720
So the only issue that I have
with that is, and we were

641
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:22,200
talking about this, first of
all, you left the Ridge over a

642
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,040
year ago to try to come to
Scotland.

643
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,800
You get detained because you're
conscripted into into battle.

644
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:34,480
So you spend the next year
fighting the small battles that

645
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,200
are leading up to the American
Revolution.

646
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,880
OK.
You finally get leave to go home

647
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,160
to Scotland.
This is a month long journey.

648
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,960
I think if I'm not mistaken, I
remember them either referencing

649
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,560
in the show or in the books that
it's like a four month journey

650
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:55,600
on C OK, so you got four months
that you that it took you to get

651
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,120
to Scotland.
So this is a year and a almost a

652
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,600
year and a half in the making of
you leaving Fraser's Ridge to

653
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,880
get to Scotland.
You they probably have been in

654
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,920
Scotland at this point, maybe a
few weeks, if that.

655
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,440
And then all of a sudden you get
this letter about this person

656
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,960
who yes Lord John is dear to all
of y'all.

657
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,800
But is he?
Is his nephew that you don't

658
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,560
know dear enough for you to
leave your dying brother-in-law

659
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,760
to cut to make another four
month journey home?

660
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,080
And you?
Is the nephew even going to be

661
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,080
alive four months from then with
two musket balls in his?

662
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,480
Stomach so I am assuming I I
have to assume this because

663
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,480
stomach injuries are horrible
and you you go fast with a

664
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,240
stomach injury to be honest with
you.

665
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,160
So that he must have got shot
where it really didn't bother

666
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,880
his stomach.
But he can't you better off

667
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:56,040
traveling because at this point
infection I mean like.

668
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,360
Unless the musket balls started
in a place that wasn't as bad

669
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,240
and because they haven't been
able to get out, you know how

670
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:07,560
sometimes things move around.
Right.

671
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,960
And that's what I'm thinking.
Like it's not in a place that's

672
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,560
causing damage, damage, but if
it don't come out like he can't

673
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,160
really move around.
He can't.

674
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,880
Like, yeah, something I'm
thinking it's something like.

675
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,200
That Yeah, Yeah.
But the thing that kind of

676
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,920
bothers me is because in the
books, what prompts Claire to go

677
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,640
back to the States and prompts
this whole separation with Jamie

678
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,200
because Jamie in this episode
tells Claire he was like, OK, I

679
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,320
can't leave in because Claire is
like, well, we can't leave in.

680
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,400
Jamie says I can't but you
can't, you can go home and save

681
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,360
him.
And Jenny also tells her if you

682
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,280
can't save Ian but you can save
this other person then you need

683
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,240
to go and do this because of
course that's probably what Ian

684
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:57,000
would want her to do too.
But in the books, Claire leaves

685
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:03,080
because she gets a visit from
Leary, who has received a letter

686
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:08,960
from Marceline and Ori
Christian, their their younger

687
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,120
son at this point.
The one who has, the one who has

688
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:19,040
dwarfism, he has developed some
type of infection or something

689
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,720
is going on with his throat
because of his condition that's

690
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:25,360
making it harder and harder for
him to breathe as he gets older.

691
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,560
So it's getting to the point
where it's starting to endanger

692
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,560
his life.
And so Marshall is like my pleas

693
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,520
for the love you bear your
grandchildren.

694
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:41,560
Please go to Claire and ask her
to come home so that she can

695
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,600
operate on Ori Christian.
So that's what happens in the

696
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,960
book.
Leary goes to Claire and

697
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,720
basically says for our
grandchild, will you please go?

698
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,280
Will you please go take care of
it?

699
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,000
That is the only thing I can see
Claire leaving a dying in for.

700
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:01,640
And then I think what happens is
once she gets there, she is the

701
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,400
the information about Laura
John's nephew is brought to her

702
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,800
attention and then she takes
care of it, but she goes home

703
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,400
for Orry Christian.
So that was that's kind of weird

704
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,000
for me in the show because I
don't think that Claire would

705
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,360
leave in at this point,
especially having been gone for

706
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,560
so light at this point.
They when they left to go get

707
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,960
the.
The French gold from Silky

708
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,720
Island and Ian was kidnapped.
This has been almost 10 years

709
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:35,200
now that they've been gone.
So I, I just, I think I, I do

710
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:40,480
believe she would do it for Lord
John to be honest with you and

711
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,440
for his family because of what
he has done for her family.

712
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:51,440
It's just that I don't like the
reason like a bullet because by

713
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,160
the time I get there, he may be
dead.

714
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,640
Like if you came up with
something else that he would

715
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,320
need surgery and he know Claire
can do the surgery.

716
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,120
I was OK because she still would
have went because it was Lord

717
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,440
John's family.
It's important.

718
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,320
So I just don't like the.
You know, like what?

719
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,800
How they have, he has a a
stomach, he can't travel and all

720
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,080
that stuff.
Yeah.

721
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,440
So that's the only thing.
So it would have been better

722
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,280
with, you know, Marcy's baby.
But whatever, we'll go with it.

723
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,880
Claire's on her way back to her.
Way the young age who has to

724
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,960
confess his love 'cause his
family says you didn't tell her

725
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,560
you loved her you didn't gave
her a dog right that's not the

726
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,520
same I'm.
Like but it but.

727
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,120
The but it was the same.
But Bug had to tell her that

728
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,400
though.
So like she didn't really know

729
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,920
now, but she knew.
But he needs to go get.

730
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,720
He needs to go get this woman.
He was going to try to send a

731
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,160
letter with Claire to tell
Rachel.

732
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,000
I don't know how long I'll be
gone.

733
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,240
I can't ask you away from me.
His mother tore that letter up.

734
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,520
It was like you need.
To stay here, we, we, we're

735
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,280
good.
But the thing that kind of, I

736
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,360
won't say necessarily convinced
him, but the conversation that

737
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,680
they have, she takes him to the
graveyard.

738
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,080
And The thing is at the
beginning of the episode, you

739
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,040
know, they always show you a
little scene that kind of

740
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,720
relates to the episode.
So they showed a gravestone and

741
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:24,520
all you can see what was ISA and
I was like is that Ishabel's

742
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:28,400
grave.
And then you see Jimmy clearing

743
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,200
it off because of course, the
the gravestone is kind of

744
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,320
covered with grass and Moss and
everything.

745
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,240
So it's current day.
So at some point before Jimmy

746
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:40,080
disappeared, you know, he
probably went to the graveyard

747
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,560
and saw it because we know that
they go to the graveyard

748
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,680
sometimes.
He said that's that's how they

749
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,720
feel close to granddad.
And I was just like, that's a

750
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:51,440
grave for Ishabel.
And then I was like, wait, did

751
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,520
they did, did they do that in
Scotland?

752
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,400
And that's exactly what they
did.

753
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,520
Jenny had one made, they had
Ishabel's name on it.

754
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,720
And then they had the words for
Beloved daughter written in

755
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:08,480
Mohawk engraved.
And this is where she tells him,

756
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,200
you know, it's it's so that he
can have a place to feel close

757
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,520
to her, to visit her whenever
he's there.

758
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:18,920
And she was like, just like,
she's always with you.

759
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,240
You are always with us.
Go to your young last.

760
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:23,600
You can live with your Auntie
Claire.

761
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,080
And he says, I got to stay with
dad for the rest of his life.

762
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,120
And she was like, no, your dad
wants you to go and live the

763
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,960
rest of yours.
And you need to go tell that

764
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,880
girl you love her right before
she before she starts dating

765
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,360
William.
I'm just joking.

766
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,400
She's not.
Not if Michelle got anything to

767
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,120
say.
Well, no, but I mean, I know

768
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,640
they tried to do the little love
triangle, but you can tell like,

769
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,400
she really is really, really
fond of Ian.

770
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,080
So yeah, yeah, He just needs to
confess his confess his love.

771
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,680
However, the bug issue needs to
be exterminated.

772
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,440
But see, if she wouldn't go with
William, then the bug issue

773
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,680
wouldn't even be a issue.
It won't be, but then you won't

774
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,000
have anybody for anybody for
life.

775
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,240
He needs somebody.
And that's not, that's not

776
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:12,520
exactly true because even if
Rachel ended up with William, he

777
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,920
still knows that Ian loves
Rachel.

778
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,360
So he will probably probably go
after him.

779
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:24,520
So but but yeah, also I think
with with Ian, I think it's

780
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,640
enough for him that they came
and he was able to see him want

781
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,520
his son to sit sitting there and
lose and watch him die.

782
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,640
And lose the lose a love after
he has already been through.

783
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,480
Even even with even not even
thinking about Rachel or not

784
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,440
even bringing her into it, he
doesn't want Ian to sit there

785
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,000
and watch him slowly wither
away.

786
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,240
Not only because of just the
fact that you just don't want

787
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:54,080
somebody to sit there and watch
you die, but also Ian.

788
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,360
We saw it in this episode.
He would have a lot of guilt

789
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,640
about it.
Right, but his dad would be OK

790
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,400
with him being there, but he
don't want him to be there.

791
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,840
And you're holding like you left
your life on pause.

792
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,480
It can be different if you had
nothing going on.

793
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,440
We can talk about your
adventures, you know, with

794
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,440
everything, but you literally
have your life on pause.

795
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,280
Like you.
You can have a family.

796
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,840
Yeah.
So I do need you to go 'cause

797
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,960
time is short so you need to get
going.

798
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,720
Yeah, I'm glad that he did tell
Ian about Swift is of lizards

799
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:28,480
though.
Yeah, I do.

800
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,600
He did tell his dad that he has
a son now I just.

801
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Need him to tell Jimmy.
Yeah.

802
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,480
And I think he probably did.
We just didn't see that.

803
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,280
I'm really thinking that that
was all you think, but it's

804
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,080
going to be later.
I think it's going to be later,

805
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,960
but I'm just I'm I'm he needs to
tell her.

806
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:49,360
But I'm glad he told Ian because
again, he's going back to

807
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,040
America now with Claire.
He probably won't have that

808
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,640
opportunity.
And the fact that he was able to

809
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,320
say that to his father's face,
like, and sit down face to face,

810
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,240
give him the name, give him the
context.

811
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:03,280
And was like, yeah, tell him
about his his Christian name,

812
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,120
Ian James.
Yeah.

813
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:11,240
I just, this episode was so
emotional and I was just like, I

814
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:14,560
feel like Claire's time in
Scotland was too short.

815
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,520
But again, like I said, there's
so much story.

816
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,280
Yeah, they, they don't have time
for that.

817
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,760
Sorry.
So.

818
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,080
We have a season and 1/2.
I know and Jamie is still there,

819
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,080
so we will still get to see some
some.

820
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,200
Scotland content, right?
We will.

821
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,320
And we're gateless too, you
know, so.

822
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,480
OK, but you know if we see and
gave us now, that means we will

823
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,400
also see Dougal because we do
know that Graham Mctavish came

824
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,160
back for the back half of season
7.

825
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,800
Now I thought originally it was
going to be like just flashbacks

826
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,720
before I read before I read the
books.

827
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,880
But no, Roger ended up way.
Back.

828
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,960
I'm out of time.
Just Allison.

829
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,360
Like he went further back then
Claire.

830
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,080
Went right, that's what I'm
saying this is like that's what

831
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,880
I'm saying before you think
Claire even got there right,

832
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,440
like way before this is I'm so
mad.

833
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:16,920
It's like 3-4 years so.
Yeah, it's, it's going to be.

834
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,600
Interesting.
And that's why I say when you

835
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,040
come back, let's just say
everything gets resolved at home

836
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,720
and you come back and you're
like, well, what year is this?

837
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,040
You're like Brianna said.
You know what, honey?

838
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,760
It's been about 5I.
Don't think that would happen.

839
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,920
No, but I'm just saying that
could happen.

840
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,280
I know I'm coming up with
scenarios.

841
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,880
It's been about five years.
It's been five years.

842
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,760
I'm psyched.
Yeah.

843
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,720
I mean, we made it work.
We knew you'll come back, but

844
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:45,840
you know when you will come.
Back.

845
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,280
But here's the other thing too.
So we were talking about this in

846
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,240
the last episode.
Let's say Roger isn't able to

847
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:57,840
get back if he's stuck in 1939
or whatever, if Brianna decides

848
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,960
to go back to find him and Jim
if Jim is even in this time.

849
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,200
What time would she go?
Back right because she doesn't

850
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,320
know that he went no.
That's what I'm saying.

851
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,840
There's no phone call, no
e-mail, no text messages.

852
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,200
You do one person do need to
stay put.

853
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,600
But that person who is staying
put in waiting you, we don't

854
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,120
know when it is.
And no, she's not going to be

855
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,880
remarried.
Or absolutely not.

856
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,840
Wait, wait a minute.
No, wait a second.

857
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,840
No, she OK.
We'll talk about that off.

858
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,160
Oh Lord, no, she ain't.
She ain't.

859
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,480
I don't know, but I'm just
saying if it's like 10 years

860
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,480
that he still didn't come back.
No, OK, she's not going to do it

861
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,440
because look, she she has the
example.

862
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,120
She saw what happened with her
dad.

863
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,520
Her dad thought her mom was
gone, never to see her again.

864
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,400
He got married again.
She's probably like she'll do

865
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,800
some.
She'll go to the library and do

866
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,520
some research and see if she
ever finds.

867
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,880
She, I don't think she would do
that.

868
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,920
I don't think she would do that.
No, I said go and do research to

869
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,360
see if his name is out.
There.

870
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,960
Oh, to see if Rodger's name is
out there for 10 years.

871
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,200
No, she.
OK, let's try this, everyone.

872
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,760
No, she's not going to remarry,
but she will give her a side

873
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,720
piece.
All right?

874
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,080
OK, That's all I'm saying, but
my whole point.

875
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,080
Is we don't.
Know we don't know when they're

876
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,080
traveling in the all this time.
So that's all I'm trying to say.

877
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,960
I'm just saying, Jamie, you
know, Claire was gone for 20

878
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,960
years and Jamie only did it with
Geneva Dunsani.

879
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,920
And that was, that was.
Asked.

880
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,760
Of him.
Right, right.

881
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,760
Mary McNab.
And then, however, if he ever

882
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,240
consummated with Larry or
whatever.

883
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,200
But yeah, Jamie was pretty much
a monk the whole 20 years that

884
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,520
Claire was gone.
And Claire?

885
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,640
Pretty much was too, yeah, to be
honest with you.

886
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,520
So, you know, she had a husband.
She was just thinking of another

887
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,720
man when she was with her
husband so.

888
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,320
I mean, but.
Nice clothes.

889
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,560
You never used to do that
before.

890
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,400
I'm like, who wants to sit there
and be kissing and just looking

891
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,560
all in your face and.
She wasn't even trying to open

892
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,280
the eyes.
Because.

893
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,200
Because when you open your eyes,
you're going to see Blackjack

894
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,720
Randall.
When she open her eyes, it's

895
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:15,960
just not who she going to be
with.

896
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,840
We'll be terrible.
It's just just.

897
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,560
But I'm just.
Saying the more immediate

898
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,400
reaction if I'm kissing you and
you look like this man who

899
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,680
tortured me and my husband.
But still she she's able to put

900
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,280
peace, put that apart and
compartmentalize that she still

901
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,840
and she that's why she should
never get mad when he had he had

902
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,880
affairs.
That's a whole other

903
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,560
conversation.
OK, that's another off.

904
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,400
Which that's a whole other
conversation.

905
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,800
Remember, we are going to at
some point do a what Frank knew

906
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,560
and we're going to talk about
book Frank, but she needs to

907
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,760
read the books first before we
can talk about.

908
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,600
What Frank knew.
OK, but you know.

909
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,560
So we got we got break.
Frank knew.

910
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,360
He, you know, he, Frank knew
someone didn't love him, but

911
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:05,200
that's that he.
We can hate on Frank, but Frank

912
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,360
had to be married to someone who
just didn't just like Leary.

913
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:09,960
I.
Know who just did not have a

914
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,040
place for him.
OK, I know.

915
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,800
OK, I'm just saying whatever.
OK so however they they're

916
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,200
getting back to they can go to
America.

917
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,800
Yep.
Claire's going.

918
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,640
Back to America.
And when I say the previews for

919
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,640
the next episode are kind of
like, I can't wait to see your

920
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:36,240
face when certain things come
into play if they stick to the

921
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:40,480
way it's written in the books.
But like I said, they they seem

922
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,200
to have been very faithful to
the to the books.

923
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,440
At some point they are going to
have to diverge because they're

924
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,000
only giving us one more season
because book 10 has not been

925
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,200
out.
It is not out yet and probably

926
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,600
won't be out for another two or
three years.

927
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,880
They're going to have to diverge
from some stuff.

928
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,800
They do, and then they got to
give us an ending that is.

929
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,840
Not the notebook, no.
I'm going to say general enough

930
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:10,160
where it's not going to be the
same as with how the books end,

931
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:14,240
right?
But a good ending for this fan

932
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,680
just has to be a good ending for
you, right?

933
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,520
And to honestly, a good ending
now is dying.

934
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,040
But I'm not being funny right
now.

935
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,880
A good ending is just just a
stopping point and like the

936
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,960
stopping point where we know
that they would be OK, like

937
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,640
they're out of war.
Yeah, issues.

938
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,360
Good point.
Jamie is going to like, like

939
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,600
them.
We know that right now they are

940
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,480
living in the cabin.
She's working on the herbs and

941
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,360
her new book and he's out just
building her home and that they

942
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,320
just living and sitting on the
porch and and thinking of their

943
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,440
grandkids like, that's the
ending.

944
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,280
Yeah.
And we know, OK, they're OK.

945
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,800
They're going to be OK.
And at some point one of them

946
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,120
will pass away, maybe together,
maybe separate.

947
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,480
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't know, I think the

948
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,600
next few episodes are going to
be very interesting.

949
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,880
I think the story is going to
move fairly quickly because they

950
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,960
do have a lot we do.
And we were talking about this.

951
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,600
We are so sick of the war stuff,
but they got more battles to

952
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,400
come, so we're going to see some
more fighting.

953
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,360
But like I was about to say, at
some point Jamie is going to be

954
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,320
too old for them to keep calling
him because he's with probably

955
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,120
50 he.
Should just say I can't see

956
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,400
like.
I I mean.

957
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,320
I'm old, right?
And in the book he said he had

958
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,200
he missing a finger.
Just be like I'm missing a

959
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,600
finger.
I can't do nothing.

960
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,240
Yeah, I mean, he's still
functional.

961
00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:55,440
That's the one thing about.
He needs to act like he's not

962
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,440
functional.
That's the problem.

963
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:02,880
He run around like he in his 20s
and he's not.

964
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,240
Right.
He needs to be like, look, I'm

965
00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:09,200
too old for this shit.
He needs to be like he needs.

966
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,600
To be looking like Ian right
now, just be like, I can't go to

967
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,400
war.
Not looking like, oh, I'm a good

968
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,440
sniper.
I can, you know, run across the

969
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,240
field and like stab like 30
people at one time.

970
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:23,760
No, you can't do that, right?
Oh my gosh.

971
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,360
She's looking at this in the
background, the ending where

972
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,160
Roger they're going to visit the
her herbalist and she was like

973
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,880
when she watched the episode,
she was like, oh shit.

974
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,920
And see, here he go again for
the next time, looking at her

975
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:48,280
like I know you, I know you.
But at this point she knows him

976
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,920
as well.
I'm I'm still thinking about.

977
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,760
That I'm gonna answer this
question, you know.

978
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,560
She I'm still thinking about it,
she because she met him before

979
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,320
she went through the stones and
she went through the stones and

980
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,880
landed in the 30s like she's at
the house.

981
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:09,000
I think she this is probably
right either right before she

982
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,680
met Arthur and married him.
I think that's where where she

983
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,520
is in the story, if I remember
correctly.

984
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:20,760
So it wouldn't have been that
long ago that she met Rodger and

985
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,240
Brianna in 1969.
OK.

986
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:29,120
All right, so we will see.
Did we touch on everything for

987
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,080
this first episode?
I think we did.

988
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,200
We did a lot of crying in this
episode.

989
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:38,240
We were just sitting there with
our tissues, like and anger.

990
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,880
Yes, I know it'll get better.
It'll get better.

991
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:45,920
I mean, when you see the way
they pull the story, if they

992
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,640
follow the books, when you see
the way they pull the story, I

993
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,120
think you're going to like what
they did.

994
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,520
I will say that I think you, I
think you're going to enjoy what

995
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:02,880
happens in this back half of
season 7, even though there will

996
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,160
be some, there will be some
heartbreak because of course,

997
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:11,200
obviously if they're telling us
that BN is sick, obviously we're

998
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,320
going to get his death in the in
the season.

999
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,840
I don't I mean, even Claire says
she doesn't think he has long.

1000
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,600
So we're going to get some
heartbreak, but there's also

1001
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,320
good some really good stuff
that's going to happen.

1002
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,560
OK, I trust you.
I think he's going to be.

1003
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,960
I think he's going to be.
I trust you.

1004
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:34,240
OK, I will.
So, so I guess on that note,

1005
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,120
that's it for our show.
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1006
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,960
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1007
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,640
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1008
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,000
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1009
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,640
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1010
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,120
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1011
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,960
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1012
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