Outlander (Season 8 Episode 6) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #404

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Dina and we are discussing
episode 6 of Outlanders final

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season and unfortunately I don't
know what it is.

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We switching off with y'all.
I don't know what it is with you

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and Michelle.
It's like wrangling teeth trying

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to get but everybody together.
But no, it's you just got back

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from traipsing around the world.
We were talking about you on the

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podcast.
We like Demon left us to go just

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travel and do you have fun?
OK, did you have fun?

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Yeah, it was great.
It was great.

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I definitely love to travel and
I love the gamble.

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Yeah, did.
You make enough money for us to

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retire and do this fangirl thing
full time.

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No child, but I did make enough
money that they giving me free

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cruises.
So that was that's good.

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I just got to pay the taxes and
the port.

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Fees, but I'm like, I'll take
it, you know, well, look, if you

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haven't needed a cruise buddy
and Adam can't go call your

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girl, but will OK, let's I love
the cruise, but let's talk about

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this episode.
And I'm so bummed that Michelle

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is not here because there's
because of the end stuff like if

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y'all listen to us, you know,
Michelle is an end stand and I

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know I just want to know how
much she cried during that scene

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at the end.
I just want to know.

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So yeah, she, she had to 'cause
I know I did.

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I cried both times I watched it.
Listen, it's so emotional, but

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we we'll talk about that later.
Let's talk about this, this

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Cunningham motherfucker, right
first, baby.

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I'm so glad this man has left
the Ridge now because when I say

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starting the episode with him
and his bad attitude and all

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this other stung.
Bro you don't came up here and

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attacked this man and then then
did all this shenanigans on his

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property.
Are you mad 'cause you got shot?

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And now you can't walk because
of shit you did.

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You said this emotion, This man
trusted you.

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He gave you the benefit of the
doubt, right?

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He let you be here and you tried
your best to screw him up.

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Right now you mad because you
got fat, but please.

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And then you want to make it
seem like What did you do to me?

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Excuse me, Sir, I saved your
life.

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How about that?
You're alive, right?

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You're alive.
You got shot in the back, son,

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you.
Should be dead.

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All of his, just his whole
attitude towards what is that

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smell?
You know that right there.

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I was like, you don't know what
it sounds like when you go to

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the bathroom.
It's no, but no.

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Concentrated.
That right there was hilarious

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because I was like, brother,
that is you smelling bad you.

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That is all you Boo.
And it's so crazy because you

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want to feel bad for somebody in
that situation because

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technically speaking, he's
disabled now.

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You don't want to like just in
general, you don't want to make

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fun of anybody had that kind of
thing happen.

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But you know what, baby?
You earn that shit.

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You earn all of the ire we are
about to give you.

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Because when I tell you I've
already said you were gone when

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all the stuff was happening, I
said, you know what, Claire and

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Jamie are better than I am.
Ain't no way this this dude

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here, Claire is good.
Because I'd have been no Jamie.

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Jamie the Jamie the this is just
let you know how how good of a

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person Jamie is.
He could have just put his hand

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over that man mouth while he was
down on the ground and went

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ahead and sniffed him on out and
just and just got rid of him,

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stabbed him and he couldn't do
any of that.

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He brought him to be healed.
Or he could have just left him

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there with the with the woman
womb he just left him.

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He could have let him bleed out.
All of that and he brought this

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man all the way to his house for
his wife to heal him baby and he

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and this man coming here talking
smack.

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Now, I get the Mama being
freaked out 'cause that's her

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son.
You know, that mama's going to

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act like how mama's going to
act.

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And you know, it did sound kind
of messed up when she heard you

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got shot in the back.
It did sound kind of messed up.

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Like, Dang, Jamie, you should be
in the back.

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No, but she didn't get the whole
story.

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She just didn't have the whole
story.

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Which is why she was so meek and
calm when she came in that

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morning.
Right.

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Because she probably found out
everything and she was like,

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well.
Look, you can't get mad he went

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up against just like they.
They had to defend themselves.

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And just like you were sitting
here the night before telling

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Claire how your husband has
given up his pardon and he

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deserves, he deserves to be
executed, those words came back

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to bite you in the ass, didn't
they?

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Yep, but it is.
It's crazy, though, how she just

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felt so comfortable saying crazy
stuff to Claire, but then also

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like she really do.
You could tell she's going to be

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her friend.
Like they were very kindred

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spirits in a lot of ways, but
like she also just was like

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saying little nasty little stuff
like bam, you need to watch how

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you talking to me.
Listen, karma is a bitch and.

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She collected that check.
He did 'cause now she got a

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baby, a whole new newborn to
take care of and he gonna be a

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nasty one, 'cause he go, he
gonna be mad at her too, 'cause

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that's what happens when people
get hurt.

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And it's not, you know, to say
something bad about people in

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general.
But like, when people get hurt

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and they can't do what they used
to do, they get bitter about it

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a lot of times.
And he is clearly gonna be a

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bitter man, basically.
It's that misplaced.

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Anger.
Yeah.

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So I hated for her whole life.
Gonna be hard back back home,

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yeah?
Because they do.

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And I think the only, I think
the only person who made me who

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So there were a lot of people
who irritated me in this episode

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aside from Cunningham, that
doggone was his name Campbell.

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Listen.
So, I mean, I was like, OK,

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Jamie was trying to call on
people.

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He was trying to make sure he
has some backup.

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I get it.
I have a feeling that's going to

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be a, look, that's a phone call
that Jamie is going to record

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regret.
Yeah.

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Because I still don't trust this
dude.

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Like, yeah, you came, you heeded
the call, you came, whatever.

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Part of me feels like he did it
because he wanted to say I told

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you so.
And you did end up needing me

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because the way he's coming at
him all the way that you were

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talking to me last time, I
should have just let your ass

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hang, blah, blah blah blah blah.
For all it's worth.

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You got here late, so I didn't
really need you anyway.

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But.
I mean, they didn't, they did,

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they did take care of some
people, you know, that work

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where Jamie was.
So at least they did that.

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My thing is, bro, like you was
going to do that anyway.

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Like you wanted to, to go kill
the Tories anyway.

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So it's not like I asked you
something you wasn't already

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trying to do.
The only difference is I'm like,

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you could do it on my land now.
And and the question is, where

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did you bury these bodies?
And is this gonna blowback on

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Jamie?
That's my concern.

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Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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I know you did it.
But Josiah was with him.

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Yep.
And, you know, he he has no

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qualms about the man he killed.
They said it was almost 20 men.

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And he was like, dead man don't
tell tales.

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Buck was like, oh, yeah.
You seem like you have a real

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hard time with it.
I was just like, I just.

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The black people look.
He was like after the fact.

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Right.
I just feel like I have a

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feeling that's going to come
back and bite him in the ass

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'cause I don't trust this dude.
Like, yeah, you came in, you

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saved the day.
Y'all have a little bit of a

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talk, but especially with what
happens later on in the Ridge

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with Jamie banishing the men and
then deciding to let them stay

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but you know, transferring
ownership of the land in the

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homes to the wives.
I just like, I understand what

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Jamie is doing and I understand,
I understand compassion.

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I understand empathy, and I
understand, you know,

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unfortunately, these women are
kind of, at this point, held

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hostage to their husbands
because women can't own things,

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or at least they couldn't really
own things as much here.

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I mean, we saw Mercy Woodcock,
but that was also one of the

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larger cities, and it's in the
north.

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So, you know, I can understand
Jamie having some leniency,

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having showing some mercy.
I just don't know how that's

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going to come back on him.
Yeah, because again, even with

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even with Cunningham out of the
way now on his way back to

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England, he may still have
allies in the Ridge or around

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the Ridge.
And of course, whoever this

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militia was the, I think they
said it was the 92nd or the 96th

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when these men don't come back,
right?

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Somebody's going to be looking
for them and they're going to

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come looking in the general
direction that these men were

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were headed in, right?
So it's like, as much as as much

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as I want Jamie and Claire to
have some peace on the Ridge, I

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don't think it's coming.
And again, I think Jamie, he's

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going to have to, he's going to
have to pull Red Jamie out of

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the bag for a little bit to let
these folks know you can't you,

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you not just going to be fucking
with me and my family, you know?

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Yeah, that's that's the thing.
Like I really, I, you know, when

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I was watching, I was like,
Jamie, you know, I'm a I'm, I'm

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ASAP.
So when the ladies was like,

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look, we didn't know, please
don't punish us.

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Don't punish the bear.
Like please, I was like, Jamie,

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I know you, you going to have a
heart and you going to let these

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women take over Because I'm like
with Claire, I know Claire

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talking to your ear and trying
to convince, you know what I'm

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saying?
Like I was like, go get the

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women the contract instead of
these men because you can't

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trust these men.
But like at some point, although

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he like Cunningham even said
that he had people that Jamie

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didn't even realize who was
basically still loyalists that

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were on the Ridge.
So maybe they didn't fight then,

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but maybe they're just waiting
like a sleeper cell on the Ridge

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to pop off, you know?
And I hate it 'cause like,

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they're not gonna, you know,
listen to these women that have

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the power right now.
I mean, the husbands have no

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choice.
You either shut up and go with

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it or you leave, right?
But people from the outside

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ain't about to listen to these
women.

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Look how listen to that
Campbell, how he treated Claire.

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It's her property.
Yeah.

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And he came on there talking
smack, you know, So I just, I do

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worry about that.
That is a good point that this

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is going to be some drama.
And then not only that.

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So the fact that you gave the
women the land and you have now

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made them the owners and you've
told the husbands, yeah, I'm

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about to tear up your deeds and
these are going to your women.

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And he tells the women he's
like, if you want, if you want

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your husband to stay and and
help you work the land and do

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all of that, that's on y'all.
But if he but if he if he acts

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up again, he's a dead man and
y'all are off my land.

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Basically.
And Hiram Crombie, he's so

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crazy.
He was like, but but Jim was

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like, I didn't tell you, you
could you had to stay.

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You have a choice.
But I think the other thing that

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worries me about this decision
is as much as the decision was

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justified, right, You still
embarrassed and emasculated

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these men in front of the whole
group.

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And I have a feeling some of
these men, even though they

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understand that they deserved
it, they're still not going to

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take, you know, they're not
going to take it lying down.

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At at least I don't think they
will.

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So even if they don't actively
do anything against Jamie, they

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can still sow some seeds.
You know they just not.

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Help just not back him up when
the time come.

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You know, yeah.
I mean, Crombie seemed like he

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was very, you know, you know,
like his heart was pricked and

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like he was very like, oh, I'm
sorry, I didn't.

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I just, I don't know.
I was scared.

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But none of the other ones said
anything.

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He the only one that was
contrite when he talked to Jamie

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and came and was trying to beg
and stuff.

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Nobody else said anything.
So you don't know what they got

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planned.
But but he's also the one who's,

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out of all of them, who's known
Jamie the longest.

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So it's like the fact that you
were one of the people that

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betrayed him.
You've been around the Ridge

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long enough to know like you
were there in the beginning if

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I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, probably.

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Is he a oz near man?
I can't remember if he is a.

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Man, I don't.
Think he's an Oz?

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Near man, it's hard to remember.
Remember, is he one of the IT

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was he one of the Fisher folk
that came in early or was he

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just one of the other settlers
that would that they got from

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like Wilmington?
I think it's been one of the one

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of the settlers.
But either way it goes.

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You've been with you've been
with Jamie long enough to know

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Jamie.
Don't play about his fucking

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family.
And the.

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Fact that you're trying to
you're trying to kill him and

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not only just for him, not only
not only for Claire.

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Jamie has these children in this
house now his his daughter and

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his son are back.
His grandchildren are there.

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He has Fanny.
You can you can do what you want

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to a person as an adult once
what you do threatens a child.

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Yeah, especially a child in
their care, especially after

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what Fanny has already gone
through.

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And Jamie was like, oh, you're
not about to have to worry about

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nothing.
I'm going to take care of you

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and and the people that you have
entrusted to live on your land

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is coming.
And oh, absolutely not.

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You deserve that dressing down.
But again, I feel like it's

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going to it's going to have a
negative effect.

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Yeah, this is the part that's so
hard.

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Like, it's crazy.
They used to be able to do stuff

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like this back in the day and
keep people in line at all

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really, 'cause it was so wow.
Like we just, we just living off

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in the forest and then like a
clearing in farmland.

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And it's not really like you
have fences or gates or anything

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that you could keep people out
with.

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Like it's just open, you know?
And the fact that people kept

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any kind of order back in those
days is crazy to me, 'cause we.

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Can the fact that you can
dispense your own justice?

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Oh, and that part too, like,
nobody is even saying anything

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that, well, I guess 'cause
they're not technically no cops

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could really, like, do anything
at this point, but like freaking

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Campbell hanging people in
trees, like just hanging folks

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and they nobody said nothing.
Like what?

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Yeah.
They just like, oh he crazy.

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We need to stay away from him.
I.

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Would for sure, but it's what
did she say?

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What they say call for the devil
and devil will appear or

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something like that.
What the hell?

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That what I'm saying and he is
the devil.

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And I think that's that's also
going to be a problem for Jamie

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once word gets back to Campbell
that, oh, you didn't kill the

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man who betrayed you.
You didn't kill Cunningham.

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You let Cunningham go off to
England.

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Now granted, the man is
paralyzed, not here, do nothing,

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but his mouth still work.
Yeah, his mouth still work.

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He knows the inner workings of
things.

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Like you said, he probably got
friends still out there lurking

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around.
Let him.

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You can't let your enemies live.
I learned that from What Is it

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Donnie Brasco?
Al Pacino said.

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Or no, not Al Pacino.
But yeah, Al Pacino, I think,

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said that like you can't let
your enemies live because they

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always come back in the end and
get you back.

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Especially in that time when
there is no law and order, when

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there is, like when you're out
in the Ridge.

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And I mean, basically Jamie is
judge and jury in in Fraser's

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Ridge.
I mean, it's his land.

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Yep.
He's the owner of all of that

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stuff.
Yeah, you you got some land and

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you pay your rent.
But he's the landlord.

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He you know what?
He can kick you off at any time.

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You don't own him.
He told him he was going to pop

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him, pop a cap in and if they
came back, what?

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Y'all got 10 days, get out.
Don't come back.

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If I see you, you're dead.
And not only that, he went and

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hand look, he went and handed
stuff.

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Look that you know what that
reminded me of him going.

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I just said I don't know why he
gave me like this man start my

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where it's like you do the
executions yourself kind of

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thing.
He's like I'm delivering each

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one of these letters myself.
So he holds No I've.

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Got it from right.
And then with Hiram, he was

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like, yeah, so you got to go.
Hiram, looking at the store, he

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was like, yeah, the Benchley
twins are about to take over

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this.
They go take this over.

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Oh, oh, well, what was dumb is
he basically let Cunningham just

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come in and railroad him and
like, you know, just run it

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basically.
I mean, So what difference does

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it make, right, you know?
I mean, your name is on.

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And you know, Cunningham, Yeah,
he probably has some skills and

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or he, he was the one who
financed it.

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I think that's what it was.
Yeah.

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He was the person who was
backing it.

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But you know what?
All money ain't good money.

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Ain't good money and you just.
Learned this the hard way.

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Why?
Is that what what we was talking

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about?
No, I'm sorry, I was.

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I was talking to y'all, but
y'all couldn't hear me when

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y'all was discussing the last
episode about Fergus.

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All money ain't good money.
Yes, Yes, ma'am.

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But it's but it's just like, and
I understand that probably was

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part of the pressure for Hiram.
You know, it's like, Oh well, he

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back this up if he takes his
money out or if I go against

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some, he might, you know,
Cunningham could probably self

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sabotage the, you know, the the
trading store.

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What?
I understand that.

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Yeah.
But The thing is, you got to

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count your calls, dude.
What's more important to you,

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your store or your reputation?
Because now everybody on their

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page.
Know you a traitor, right?

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Yeah.
And your family's, like,

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involved.
Just imagine, you know, people

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mad at you because what you did
take it out on your child or

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your wife or whomever because of
you.

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Crazy or treat your treat your
family differently or your

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family about to be put out on
the street.

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Oh, you about to have a hard
time at home, son?

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You got to have a hard time
because all of them, women,

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looking at them like you
threatening our livelihood, you

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threatening our children with
having a safe place to stay.

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Yeah.
Yeah, it's, it's about to be

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rough on that.
Ridge for for a little bit.

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For a little bit, yeah.
But again, I need Jamie's folks

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to hurry up and come on home
'cause I need him.

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I need him to have his posse
when shit start going down.

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Because again, I don't trust
Campbell and I don't think this

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is the end of all of this stuff
that that they're about to go

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through.
So yeah, he needs to have his

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people around.
Everybody goes.

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Rihanna, them gone.
Ian gone.

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Like everybody gone.
Right.

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Yeah, right.
Yeah, I need to come back home.

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But Speaking of Ian, let's go
ahead and talk about this by the

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way, because.
About Rachel, let's just talk

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about how Rachel down like folk
flags hot like Rachel is.

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First of all, she always been
like the realist.

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Yeah, like she always been the
realist.

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Like I ain't even go.
Her and her brother heard look

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cute.
There's a He's so cute to me, I

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love.
I love him.

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He was just hilarious.
I love him.

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He was funny.
I was looking at that laughing.

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Poor William, He was just like,
what?

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But yeah, like Rachel is is
she's got, she's a Quaker.

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And you know, they believe in
peace and they believe in all

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these things.
But when I tell you Rachel, she

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is smart.
She understands what light like,

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look, I'm going to do what I got
to do from for my husband to

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have peace so that I can have
peace, right, Because I just I

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need this for myself.
I need to know this for myself

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and I want him to also know.
Like, it ain't too many women

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would have been like, yeah,
let's go find out if your baby

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Mama alive.
Yeah, and then also for her to

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have that inner turmoil because
like she said, I didn't, she

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said.
I didn't know I could feel

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jealous like this.
I didn't know I had this in me.

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And so the fact that she was
willing to to sit with that and

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confronted and be like, look, I
got to go see if I'm the woman

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that he fell in love with or if
I'm something else.

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I got to, I got to make sure.
And, you know, I also like the

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fact that they did address all
of this because, yeah, it's easy

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for Ian to say, you know, I
don't love her anymore.

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I don't want to be with her
anymore.

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That's all fine and good.
But it's different when you see

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that person again, especially in
such emotional circumstances.

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Like, you thought this woman was
dead.

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That could have brought up a
whole bunch of stuff that you

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didn't know you still had in
there.

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Right.
No.

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Yeah, totally.
So the fact that they actually

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get a chance to to meet with
Emily and come to face face to

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face with her and confront
everything, confront all the

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feelings.
Because I'm sure Emily probably

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had that as well too.
Like, she probably felt a little

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comfort with Ian and I don't
know, maybe she even thought

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when she found out he was there
because of what happened with

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the attack, because Caheritan is
dead.

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He was one of the he was one of
the men who went to respond to

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the chaos and he was killed.
So now she's a widow.

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So the information she gave them
about having the dream where her

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son was, you know, captured and
he was made it to a soldier and

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he died.
Maybe at some point there was a

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part of her who thought maybe
Ian would come back now, you

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know, And then when she sees him
and she sees he has not only a

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wife, he has a brand new baby,
maybe that was the closure she

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needed to as well.
Yeah.

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You know, I think both of them
needed that, that real closure

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because it's got to be, it's got
to be a lot of turmoil and even

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confusion.
Like, you know, the relationship

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is over, especially with the way
that it ended.

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But we also know at the time,
neither one of them really

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wanted that relationship to end.
They really, really loved each

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other.
But she was probably also being

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pressured by the rest of the
tribe.

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Like, hey, this guy keeps giving
you babies that don't make it

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y'all.
Y'all maybe shouldn't be

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together.
And maybe that was why I, that

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may have been why she also chose
Cajaraton because that would

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have probably have been the only
way that Ian would leave because

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that was his closest friend
there.

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So it's kind of like, OK, let's
just go ahead and make this

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break.
And then of course, after he

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leaves, she finds out she's
pregnant, which Diana Gabaldon

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keeps saying every time she
talks about that, she keeps

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saying stuff like what?
In the show, they are hugely

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implying that that is his son.
Like they're they're confirming

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that's his son.
Like she's trying to say that

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that's not the implication in
the book.

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And I understand that it's vague
in the book, OK, She doesn't.

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They don't implicitly say this
is Ian's son.

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But his description, the fact
that he is blonde, the fact that

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he looks like Ian, it's kind of
like come.

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On now what?
So what you trying to say she

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was a hoe and it was another
white boy, another white boy,

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you know?
So it's just kind of it's it's

446
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:27,240
weird to me, but the I think
they needed that closure

447
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,360
together, you know?
And then the fact that she says,

448
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,120
Hey, I'm scared.
Can you take him with you?

449
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:37,840
Can you do your part and raise
him now?

450
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,960
Because yeah, keep him safe.
Because I mean, she just, she

451
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,960
literally just escaped the
massacre.

452
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,160
They could have been.
And she has a whole other child

453
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,840
that she has to think about as
well.

454
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,600
Yeah, and to be dreaming about
it and prophetic dreaming about

455
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,040
it enough, that enough time, she
said.

456
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,880
Twice.
So enough times that it must

457
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,400
have been a need.
It it was a need.

458
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,160
You need to get your son out of
here, right?

459
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,080
You know, and she was like, and
I've prayed and now you're here.

460
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,720
And you're here.
Oh my God, girl, what did I tell

461
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,920
you?
The tears, The whole.

462
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,040
And then when when swiftest of
lizards comes into the room with

463
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,760
his puppy and the first thing he
he goes straight, where's the

464
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,360
baby?
I don't even know if he knew

465
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:28,280
that that was his baby brother.
But he goes over to the baby and

466
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,640
he looks and he was like he was
like, yeah, this is our puppy,

467
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,120
my brother.
We we all should.

468
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,000
I was just.
I was.

469
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,560
I was through.
That baby.

470
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,000
Oh my gosh.
I was through and then the way

471
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,520
he he interacts with Ian and
when he goes over to Rachel and

472
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,000
he grabs her hand and he kisses
her palm and just girl, I was

473
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,240
sobbing.
I was.

474
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,080
Sobbing.
It really also gets me because

475
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:03,040
this little child that's playing
this character is exactly like

476
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:06,720
Stephanie Sun Forest.
He's loving like that.

477
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,640
He has a long hair.
He's a hugger, and he's super

478
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,880
sweet.
And so every time I watch this

479
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,760
scene, this little boy comes in
and he's just like, like, OK,

480
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,600
you my new Mama.
And like, he's just good with

481
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,440
everything.
Like, he's like, OK, that's what

482
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,080
we doing, you know?
And he's just so easy.

483
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,040
And it's just like, Oh my God,
he's surprised me of somebody.

484
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,040
I don't realize, you know.
And then the fact that his puppy

485
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:38,520
is Rollo's grandson, Oh my God,
that dog is big now 'cause they

486
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,280
were like, yeah, we filmed this
a couple of years ago.

487
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,960
That dog is huge.
But the dog was so beautiful.

488
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,280
And it it was like a full circle
moment because.

489
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,320
You get.
You get Rachel and Emily like

490
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,920
instead of them going through
and they have the discourse with

491
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,760
each other And Rachel was like,
you know, he will always be your

492
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,000
son.
But I, I accept, you know, I,

493
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,120
I'm so grateful for the fact
that I get to be his mother too.

494
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,120
And he will always have a place
at my heart and he will always

495
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,920
have a girl.
I was sobbing and it was even it

496
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,600
was even more beautiful,
beautifully written in the book.

497
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,480
OK, if I remember correctly,
again, I've only read that book

498
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,520
once and I think that was the
book I like.

499
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,920
I read that book in 24 hours.
That's like an 800 and something

500
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,520
page book.
I read it in one day.

501
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,320
I was like, I wouldn't put it
down.

502
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:39,560
But the the way that it happens
in the book is because Rachel

503
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,640
and and Ian, they kind of leave,
but Rachel comes back at night

504
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,080
to speak to Emily alone and they
have this conversation.

505
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,960
So everyone that she was telling
Joseph Brandt about how she was

506
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,600
feeling and all this other
stuff.

507
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,880
I, if I remember correctly, she
had that conversation with

508
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,680
Emily.
So both of them kind of shared

509
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,000
with each other their own
insecurities as far as it comes

510
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,360
to end and how he sees both of
them or how he relates to both

511
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,320
of them.
And it's kind of like, well, you

512
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,960
are his first love.
I'm scared that he may still

513
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,840
love you.
Well, you are his new love.

514
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,680
I'm scared he will forget about
me and us and you know the

515
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,160
child.
And it was such a beautiful

516
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,960
moment.
And they couldn't do it exactly

517
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,680
that way in the show because of
time.

518
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,360
But I think, I mean, they really
nailed it.

519
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,160
You did a.
Good job because the actress who

520
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,000
plays Rachel.
Like her, I love her.

521
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,200
Her like her ability to emote is
like anytime she tears up, I

522
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,280
Dang near want to tear up
because she just gives you that

523
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,240
feeling like it's real, like
whatever is happening, it's so

524
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,920
real to her.
And the fact that they it's

525
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,640
funny because when what's called
I forget his name, you said his

526
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,960
name a minute ago, but the other
guy who was the rich guy, Joseph

527
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,200
Brent, Joseph Brent, his wife
basically was like, think of how

528
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,960
things with being women just ran
things.

529
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,160
And that's like, Ian, just shut
up, back the way.

530
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,360
Let the women handle that thing.
You know what I'm saying?

531
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,560
Because yeah, you could want
your son and you could you could

532
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,400
want to raise your son, but you
married to a whole nother woman

533
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,880
who got y'all got a whole other
family now.

534
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,920
So the fact that he just was
like, hands off, let the women

535
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,480
talk about it.
Let them decide.

536
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,840
Because that's the thing like
you have to come to me as a

537
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,520
woman if you want me to raise
your child, because that's

538
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,200
what's essentially that's what's
going to be the thing, right.

539
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,680
If you go technically be and
it's going to be the Mama

540
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,520
because that's what they used to
do to women back in the day.

541
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,400
And the fact that this woman in
her heart, she yes, she might

542
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,080
have been jealous and a little
worried that her man might try

543
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,120
to dip or whatever she was
feeling, which is valid.

544
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,760
But she also saw this woman's
pain and mother seeing other

545
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,680
mothers pain and feeling what
other mothers feel, that is that

546
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,800
right there.
You cannot beat that like that.

547
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,520
What I say, just the way they
just looked in each other's eyes

548
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:03,240
and it was tearing and mother to
mother that just, Oh my God,

549
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,400
that whole exchange was amazing.
It was.

550
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,240
Beautiful And then Emily says to
end she was like, well, you

551
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,560
named my son, please allow me,
you know, please allow me the

552
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,600
same.
And she goes over.

553
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,800
She looks at the baby and she
comes to them.

554
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,280
She's like his name is Hunter.
They were like, wait, what?

555
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,520
Because, you know, that's
Rachel's old, that's Rachel's

556
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,000
maiden name.
And it was she say you must be

557
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,680
led by the Spirit, because that
name has significant meaning.

558
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,360
For it difficult meaning more
than one meaning.

559
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,680
It was so beautiful.
Yeah.

560
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,560
Because, I mean, she was a
hunter by name.

561
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,800
Ian is a hunter.
He's a hunter and his spirit and

562
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,120
his soul.
It's just, it was such a

563
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:51,080
beautifully done scene.
And I just felt like, I also

564
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,480
like the fact that she finally
did allow herself to be

565
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,040
vulnerable in front of Ann
because like she said, she said,

566
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,160
you have me on such a pedestal.
I feel like I can't make any

567
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,320
mistakes, but I have to.
I have to tell you how I feel

568
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,120
that this worries me because you
know what was that?

569
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:16,440
I think Joseph Brent said
something to him about about him

570
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,120
leaving.
He was like, Oh yeah, you don't

571
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,920
have any right to check on them.
You left.

572
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,080
And Ian was like, it wasn't.
I didn't want to leave out.

573
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,000
They made me leave, what are you
talking about?

574
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,840
Right.
And so there was that unspoken

575
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,440
thing there where he was like, I
would still be there if if I

576
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,240
hadn't got kicked out.
And it's kind of like in

577
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,960
Rachel's mind, yeah, that on the
one hand is like, oh, he would

578
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,760
have stayed with her.
But at the same time, you know,

579
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,120
realistically it's like, OK, but
you can't think that because, I

580
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,960
mean it's.
Not what happened, it just.

581
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,800
It just, yeah.
Yeah, And you know, that thing

582
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,320
about their whole exchange, too,
that I really love about this is

583
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,440
so she's a Quaker.
She has a whole belief system.

584
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,760
She's a Native American.
She has her whole belief system.

585
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,360
But the one common thing was
whatever this spirit is is

586
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,159
leading us in this direction.
And nobody's like, oh, but you,

587
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,400
your spirit ain't my spirit, so
your spirit must be evil or

588
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,639
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Like when she said the spirit

589
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:25,840
must have led you, you know, she
didn't immediately be like,

590
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,800
well, I don't think it's the
same spirit as you got.

591
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,320
You know, I, I just, I love that
so much, just so much about that

592
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,560
kind of stuff, because it's all
these different cultures

593
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,000
blending in this show and there
are those that are just like,

594
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,440
what was that family?
The that was.

595
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,920
The Christies, the.
Christies, James, I, Mary and

596
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,679
Joseph, girl, I was so tired.
I was, the Christianity was

597
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,639
killing me.
I was tired, you hear me?

598
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,199
And so it's just such a breath
of fresh air to see them just

599
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:57,320
kind of mingling together and
the spirit just being universal

600
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,080
and it's speaking to you and
it's speaking to you and y'all

601
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,480
are feeling the same.
You know what I mean?

602
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,160
Like y'all are respectful and
still loving to each other

603
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:06,760
because I feel like like that's
what it's supposed to be like.

604
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,760
Right.
You know, exactly.

605
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,080
Exactly.
Yeah.

606
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,960
Yeah.
And nobody's doing harm,

607
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,200
nobody's harming each other.
Everybody's in love.

608
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,680
I might have been a little
jealous of you, but what I

609
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,880
realized is we are the same, you
know?

610
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,880
We're just mothers who are
trying to take care of their

611
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,640
children and and have their
family be safe and we are, we

612
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,360
are the same, you know.
And at this point, it's not

613
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,440
about me and it's not about you.
It's about them, the little

614
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,480
ones, the little ones, you know,
so.

615
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,160
When she was like.
Will you take him with you?

616
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,560
Yeah.
Immediately she's like, of

617
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,960
course I will, you know, like,
come on, come on.

618
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,200
And especially, especially after
the way that little boy came in,

619
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,840
he didn't even see the
grown-ups.

620
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,800
He went straight to the baby.
I think Rachel knew she was

621
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,840
like, OK, you know what?
He's gonna take care of him,

622
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,920
brother.
Yeah.

623
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,160
He gonna take care of him.
Yeah, you got a Big Brother now.

624
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:10,400
Excuse me, Hunter.
Hunter I love that so much.

625
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,840
I was just like, and it's so
cool because I, I like, I'll

626
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,400
name you.
I would name your son.

627
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,320
It's such a, such a ritualistic
thing.

628
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,320
Like to, to name, naming kids is
special, you know, like I, I

629
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,360
know some people got some names
where, you know, it wasn't, it

630
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,920
wasn't terribly special for
them, but you know, I'm named

631
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,160
after my grandma.
She was named after her grandma.

632
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,080
It's a ritual.
And so for somebody to put their

633
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,480
heart to give you a gift to name
your child like that stuff.

634
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,800
Oh my God.
Like that whole scene just was,

635
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,480
I don't know.
That's my favorite part about

636
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,960
that whole episode.
It was such a good, it was such

637
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,320
a good scene.
And I was like, you know what?

638
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,600
This was one of them.
That was one of the moments that

639
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,400
I was looking forward to the
most in this season.

640
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,920
Like, there's certain things
that happens in the books.

641
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,280
And I was like, I need them to
nail this.

642
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,800
I need them to nail this.
I need them to nail this.

643
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,680
They nailed it.
They're doing.

644
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,360
Their thing.
They nailed it.

645
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,240
It was so good, so emotional.
I was bawling, crying.

646
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,480
I was like, oh, I know Michelle
is a puddle right now, so I

647
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,440
can't wait to talk to her about
it.

648
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,440
I know she was a mess.
So yeah.

649
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,320
What?
OK, So OK, you got your son,

650
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,920
y'all you you got this
straightened out.

651
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,880
I need you to hit your ass back.
Now get back to the Ridge,

652
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,440
right?
Get back to the New York, Like

653
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:33,600
New York or something.
Like, how far up are they?

654
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,360
New York?
Yeah.

655
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,760
So they got a lot of traveling
to do.

656
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,600
They do, They really do.
Oh my God.

657
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:46,600
But OK, so let's see, let's
let's, let's talk about William.

658
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,560
Are we going to win first?
OK.

659
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,560
Because we the whole William and
Ben thing is so funny to me.

660
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,720
Well, it's it's funny and it's
not funny because I know you

661
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:03,920
watched the episode that we did.
Why the episodes that we did?

662
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Why you were gone?
One of the things that Michelle

663
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,360
is saying, she wants William to
to fall in love with someone

664
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,640
who's not taking and she doesn't
trust Amaranthus.

665
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,240
And we were both wondering,
like, did Amaranthus know?

666
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,440
And I was saying, yeah, I think
she I think she knew that Ben

667
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,400
wasn't alive.
So to have Ben confirm that in

668
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,280
this episode and to do it so
nonchalantly, like, I know

669
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,360
William wasn't really like,
giving off like, Oh, yeah, I got

670
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,840
a thing with your wife going.
Right.

671
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,440
Still, it's kind of like you're
talking to William and and

672
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,280
William is asking you like, how
could you betray your family and

673
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,320
da da, da, da, da.
We thought you were dead.

674
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,480
And he didn't say.
He said, what do you think my

675
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,600
father would wish he would
rather me dead or rather me be a

676
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,440
friend?
No house going to say he should

677
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,520
he should be dead because that's
just how they were back then.

678
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,400
It's like your loyalty was more
important than your life.

679
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,160
Yeah, and not to mention, if
they find out he traded from the

680
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,320
other side, the RP go come after
him, you know?

681
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,000
So it's not even, you know, just
the family, really.

682
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,400
Like, he can't tell everybody
he's somebody, you know?

683
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,000
Yeah.
Yeah.

684
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,240
But that shit made me laugh so
hard because when he started

685
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:28,480
spilling the beans and talking
about Amaranth this nude and it

686
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,960
was her idea, I started laughing
because William's face was like

687
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,080
bro what?
What Now?

688
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,320
She trying to make me marry her
and she doesn't set this whole

689
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:39,840
thing?
Up.

690
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,400
Let's see if William sit there
and think about it.

691
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,160
That's the reason why she was
like, Oh yeah, we can get

692
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,680
married.
Oh, but no, we don't have to get

693
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,200
married right away.
Let's just try it out and see.

694
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Yeah, let's just have, let's
just, you know, see if I get

695
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,320
pregnant, let's see what
happens.

696
00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:00,080
What right in the 1700s?
It's a trap.

697
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,960
What are you doing right?
He's so he's so naive, like and

698
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,800
gullible.
I don't understand how at this

699
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,640
point he is still so naive and
go.

700
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,880
I just don't get it.
I don't get it.

701
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,560
You know what?
I'm going to tell you why?

702
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,600
I'm going to tell you how.
Because for all of for all of

703
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,960
everything that William has gone
through, like Michelle said,

704
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,840
William was raised with a lot of
love and I think it's just in

705
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:35,200
him to think the best of people.
He didn't start drinking again

706
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,520
'cause when he was drunk he told
his daddy off about that girl,

707
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,800
'cause he didn't trust her.
Now here you.

708
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,280
Go, go marry her.
Listen.

709
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,080
And then when Ben starts saying
wait, what do you have to do

710
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,920
with Amaranthus?
Why are you asking about it?

711
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:58,000
We was like.
But my thing is then you have no

712
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,520
right to be punching anybody
because guess what?

713
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,320
You left her.
Yeah.

714
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,200
You left her?
Not unless y'all had some kind

715
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:12,160
of understanding about oh OK I'm
gone I'm a traitor but you still

716
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,000
my wife right?
Right.

717
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,600
Then.
You.

718
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,760
Have no right to get mad at will
because how was William supposed

719
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,600
to know William?
Think he did right?

720
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,440
Yeah.
So it would be it would be

721
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,960
different if he knew you were
alive and he started sleeping

722
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,240
with your wife.
But you dead.

723
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,000
All bets are all.
Right.

724
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,560
I mean, yeah, what you going to?
Do about your wife though, it's

725
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,480
your wife up here scheming what
you going to do about her

726
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,800
throwing it around, slinging it
around talking about we just

727
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,160
going to try.
Listen, but the fact that Ben

728
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:51,440
got so mad that he literally
gave William up to to be locked

729
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:57,080
up and the whole plan was for
him to be home because if Denny

730
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,280
hadn't come in when he did, he
was like, yeah, I think the plan

731
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,600
is to hang you in the morning,
but we going to fix things like

732
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,360
I need you to turn around and
drop your pants.

733
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,760
And William was like, he was
like, my arse is the only thing

734
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,840
that feel OK, right?
Because being being whooped his

735
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,800
ass now.
And he had to tell the guard he

736
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,560
was like, yeah, I need you to go
get me some, some warm water.

737
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,440
He was like, are you going to be
OK?

738
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,960
He was like, yeah, I think he's
coming.

739
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,640
I think he has smallpox.
And we just think the guard was

740
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,400
like, hey, that's all you had to
say.

741
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,960
That's the way right that.
Was funny.

742
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,960
Let me tell you, I miss Denzel
so much because we don't get to

743
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,960
see that little wicked part of
him.

744
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Very.
He's so cute though.

745
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,440
That boy got some.
He just got some eyes that I'm

746
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,640
like, OK.
Joey Phillips is gorgeous.

747
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,720
Like, just gorgeous.
OK, yeah.

748
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:57,600
But that was fun because he
helps William to escape.

749
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,440
So now with this is the thing
now Williams going to have to go

750
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,920
back, right?
He's going to have to again,

751
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,440
you, you're in Savannah.
You're you're in the same town

752
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,560
that your wife is in.
That already is, is suspect to

753
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,920
me, at least the way they wrote
it in the show, because in the

754
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,280
in the books, he's all the way
in Philadelphia, I think.

755
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,560
Oh, there, there's distance, but
you're right here in the same

756
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,400
town.
That's a little suspect.

757
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,400
Oh boy.
Why can't people just do right?

758
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,680
I just Oh my God.
And then this girl, he doesn't

759
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,560
slept with this girl and ain't
nothing.

760
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,280
I don't know.
I don't know if they slept

761
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,200
together.
Well, maybe they did.

762
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,440
Maybe they just didn't.
I think they was they was just

763
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,600
they were getting a little happy
in the gazebo and unless that

764
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,280
would that would that would have
been a lot of clothes removing

765
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,000
and stuff like you can.
I don't think they slept

766
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,040
together yet.
Let's not even talk about that

767
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,800
because I'm we get to these
other folks.

768
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,440
I'm not, I guess what I'm saying
about removal of clothes.

769
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:12,240
Brianna, Brianna, let's just
tell you how I felt like I was a

770
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,240
parent and I had to, I Fast
forward to Wolf times because I

771
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:17,560
was like.
So it wasn't just.

772
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,880
Me.
Yeah.

773
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,280
I feel like I was Claire
watching them this time.

774
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,600
I don't know what it was, but
something about them being

775
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,160
together this time I didn't feel
right and I couldn't watch it.

776
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,280
So I've noticed I can't do that
with Jamie and Claire anymore

777
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,560
either.
Like I can kind of sort of watch

778
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,000
them, but as far as like just
being, because I feel like it

779
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,960
almost feels like because we've
been watching them for so long,

780
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,360
I almost feel like they're
friends and it'll be just like

781
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,760
watching friends.
And that's just like a no, no,

782
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,680
Like, OK, you know, I get some
people are into that.

783
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,600
I am not.
It just feels way too intimate.

784
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,400
Yeah.
It's just like, like some of the

785
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:03,960
other sex scenes, like I would
say William and Jane or, you

786
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,960
know, seeing Lord John with
somebody.

787
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,120
I think because there's not
emotional attachment with those

788
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,440
scenes.
I don't have a problem with

789
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,400
those.
But like, the more and more

790
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,640
Jamie and Claire, the as the,
the further along we get in

791
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,520
their story.
I can't really watch them do

792
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:27,040
that anymore because it feels it
feels like being a four year and

793
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,600
I felt the same way with Brianna
and Rodger in this one.

794
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:37,280
It was like, I don't know,
something about it was so it was

795
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,840
so intimate.
And I generally, I will be

796
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,280
honest, I really don't usually
care for Rodger and Rihanna's

797
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,720
love scenes.
They just I don't know it it it

798
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:50,440
looks very awkward to me.
So.

799
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,160
Happens because in the beginning
she wasn't supposed to she

800
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,800
wasn't really into him like he
was into her and then they kind

801
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,960
of fell in love more yeah and I
I feel like because he was more

802
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,080
into her clearly 'cause he
followed her ass on the way

803
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,000
back, right?
But I feel like because he.

804
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,880
Was so much more into.
Her and it wasn't as fully you

805
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,760
know, it was just I don't know.
And so I was all right, but I

806
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,120
don't know this one right here
and he told the story about his

807
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,840
dad.
I was just like, I don't know,

808
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,640
it was, it was so.
It was too intimate.

809
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,600
I was like that.
That would be like looking at my

810
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,640
sister and my brother.
I can't do it.

811
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,640
It would be like Ferguson.
Ferguson.

812
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,520
Marshall is sitting there
watching them do that.

813
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,680
It it was.
It felt so weird.

814
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,440
It was like I.
Can't do it.

815
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,560
So I'm literally sitting here
looking at something else and

816
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,240
and watching out out the
peripheral for them to be done

817
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:49,800
because I was like, it's it's
too, it's too.

818
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,000
I felt like in that moment, it
was kind of.

819
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,920
Sacred.
Yeah, that's what it was.

820
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,280
It felt sacred.
And I was like, Oh no, I'm not.

821
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,840
Supposed to watch this?
Where they're sharing this huge.

822
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,480
Revelation and he's realizing
like who he is and he realizes

823
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,040
like what he did to save his dad
and she's getting overheard like

824
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,240
she was freaked out because he
could have died and and then

825
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:20,440
they get all like him grab you
and I was like Nope, Nope, I

826
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,440
don't Nope Nope, Nope, I can't
Nope.

827
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,000
I was just.
He just looks so innocent when

828
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,840
he's.
Telling her the whole story

829
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,960
about the bomb shelter and his
mom saving him but his dad

830
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,040
catching him.
And because I did this, my dad

831
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:34,760
was.
Able to be.

832
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:39,080
There and and then all of a
sudden she's like walking away.

833
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,280
He's like, Nah, come back here
girl.

834
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,840
I'm like, oh, Oh yeah, about to
do, to do.

835
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,280
Let me, let me.
Let me, let me do like this.

836
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,360
Because not supposed to be
watching.

837
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,480
Yeah.
It just it, it felt a little too

838
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,400
personal, too much.
Yeah.

839
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,200
And then you know the other
thing.

840
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,360
About it too.
Is.

841
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:02,200
It's it's still hard for me.
I know Brianna's old now but

842
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,160
it's hard for me not to see her
still as when she was like 18 or

843
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,320
how old she was.
It's just weird for me that

844
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,880
she's like like in her 40s or
something.

845
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,440
She's like, she's like in her
late 30s, I think.

846
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,920
Or early 40s, yeah, that's weird
for me.

847
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,320
So that yes, it was.
A lot.

848
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,320
It was a lot working against me
and you know, I don't shy away

849
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,400
from no sexy like right, like
I'm gonna watch me some some get

850
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,120
down to get there.
But I just, yeah, it's something

851
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,960
about, it's something about
these.

852
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,800
Things, especially in these
later seasons.

853
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,800
It's just like, I'm not supposed
to be watching this.

854
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,440
Yeah, it it does feel
coordinator.

855
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,360
It's so weird.
Because I was like, wait.

856
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,560
I'm not approved by any stretch
of them.

857
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,720
And it seems it seems it seems a
bit weird but.

858
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:57,560
OK, so I feel glad that I'm not
the only person who felt that

859
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,600
way.
I was like, no, I'm not going to

860
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,120
watch.
I'm going to be respectful of

861
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,360
their hanky panky time.
I wonder how?

862
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,080
Michelle said.
We can wait to get.

863
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,480
Her opinion on that and see what
she feels about that too.

864
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,360
Because.
Right.

865
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,920
Because yeah.
But but I.

866
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,520
But I do love that.
Rodger was able to have that

867
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,640
moment because again, he was so
worried.

868
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,120
He was like, my dad never came
back.

869
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,320
I don't know what happened to
him.

870
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,640
Like, did I send him through to
his death?

871
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:32,480
And to know that, to even have
that brief glimpse of, oh, he

872
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,880
caught me, like, I feel like
that probably healed something

873
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,320
that he didn't even realize
needed healing.

874
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,680
Yeah, Yeah.
I loved it.

875
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,320
It's also.
Like that whole thing where it.

876
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,720
Was a memory.
That you didn't fully have, that

877
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:50,200
you had and it was clear.
And you're like, wait, I

878
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,520
remember this, you know, Oh my
gosh.

879
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,120
Because even in the last episode
after.

880
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,920
He sent Jerry back when he had
that little glimpse of him and

881
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,680
his dad.
He was like, I don't even know

882
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,240
if that was a real memory.
Well, now we know that was a

883
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:07,160
real memory because his dad was
there to catch him.

884
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,840
So yeah, this, when I say this,
this episode has so many good

885
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,040
emotional beats.
Oh, yeah.

886
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,880
I was just like, it's OK if
y'all are doing this to us now

887
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:22,240
we got three more episodes.
Y'all about to destroy it.

888
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,360
I can already tell you now I saw
the.

889
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,120
Title of the next episode.
I said, yeah, this that the next

890
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,320
episode we going to have to have
some tissues.

891
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,880
I I already?
Know, I know what's?

892
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:41,480
Coming.
It's yeah, we we just just be

893
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,200
prepared.
We got to.

894
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,120
Be hard.
Oh God.

895
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,800
Yeah, and you know what's crazy?
I'm.

896
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,640
I'm pretty sure I've watched.
The trailer, but I don't

897
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,040
remember anything, so that must
be a reason for that 'cause I

898
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:53,960
don't remember.
I know.

899
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,480
I definitely watch the preview.
Oh, you.

900
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,200
You won't get.
You won't get it.

901
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,320
Like, like there's some stuff
happening in the trailer that

902
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,320
will make you go Oh my God.
But it's like when what happens?

903
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,640
Happens.
You're gonna be like I.

904
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,000
Wasn't expecting.
That I just know.

905
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:19,240
Yeah, it's it's gonna, it's
going, it's going to hurt, it's

906
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:20,840
going to hurt.
But.

907
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,480
But I.
Do I do like?

908
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,160
I, I one thing I love about this
season is the fact that we're

909
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,400
getting to see more interaction
with Ferguson, Marceline and

910
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,720
Rodger and Brad, like get to see
them build on those

911
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:37,840
relationships.
I, I love that about this

912
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,040
season.
Like I said, I need for I, I

913
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,320
need Ferguson them.
I know he has, I know he has the

914
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,720
print shop and everything, but
you getting you getting all

915
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:51,080
kinds of threats and they need
folks to leave Fergus alone.

916
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,760
So I need y'all to come to the
pitch.

917
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,360
Come to the Ridge and you can
print from the Ridge.

918
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,920
You can get the news, listen,
you can do something, but I

919
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,800
just.
Yeah, I, I, I need you to come

920
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,560
back to the Ridge.
But also the fact that he is, I

921
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,640
love the fact that he's sharing
with them, with what's going on

922
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:17,920
with his possible fortune.
You know, he's like, yeah, I, I

923
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,680
could possibly be rich, but I
don't know, like, I, I don't

924
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,680
know.
I I still think I'm still a

925
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,440
little.
Conflicted about the thing.

926
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:37,320
With Fergus's suppose it, you
know, origins because again,

927
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,880
it's like, like we said, all
money is isn't good money.

928
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,360
And I just feel like that's
going to come with so many

929
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,200
stipulations or they're they're
going to be things that are

930
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,080
attached to him getting that
money that may not be in the

931
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,840
best interest for him and his
family.

932
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,200
Well, just the name him alone.
Like we y'all, y'all was talking

933
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,000
about that matter of fact in the
last video.

934
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,120
Just him having to say that he's
the concern Jermaine's son could

935
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,160
put his life in danger, his
family in danger.

936
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,040
Just saying that alone, not even
having money, just saying that

937
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,840
because you know that dude has
some enemies, OK?

938
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:17,640
Look at him.
And then like, I mean, you, you,

939
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,040
you consider yourself one of his
enemies.

940
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,640
You know, he's like, he tried to
kill my lady.

941
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,120
Like you don't play with my lady
now right at all.

942
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,360
Like that's that's my, that my
real Mama.

943
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,920
That my real Mama, That my.
Real Mama, you're not going to.

944
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Mess with her so and then he was
he was there during all of that

945
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,560
right, right.
He saw how attractive.

946
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,320
He was, yeah, yeah.
And so.

947
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:43,440
Yeah.
And then?

948
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,560
Like these new people, these new
French people they're trying to

949
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,840
bring over, we don't know what
these people is like and what

950
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,400
they about to do when they go
out West.

951
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,400
And, you know, we don't know
nothing about that.

952
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,600
And then what if having that
land is actually a good thing

953
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,120
for him to have that land and
not give it away?

954
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,240
You know what I'm saying?
Like it.

955
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,000
Look, there might be oil on that
land.

956
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,480
Right that like it's out West
you.

957
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,920
Know there's some oil or
something out there you know the

958
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,880
North Dakota the oil fields out
there booming you know come on

959
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,800
now look go out there and and
dig you.

960
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,600
Some oil and let Marsley have
her jewels and her stuff that

961
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:26,040
she's always talking about.
Because yeah, I don't, I don't

962
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,760
think.
I don't think.

963
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:31,440
Letting those French people.
Come over is going to be a good

964
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:36,320
idea first.
I just, I just don't think it's.

965
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,480
And then you gotta say you the
comp size your mind.

966
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,320
And son, yeah, but just you
gotta say it because even

967
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,400
without the the stuff that we
know about him, you are a cab

968
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,320
back then.
Yeah, we don't need.

969
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:55,080
And then like, you know, he
probably had to end up going to.

970
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:00,000
Paris at some point, you know,
and you got too many children to

971
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,080
be leaving.
Marshall behind by herself and

972
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,240
and so she would definitely.
Have to go back to the Ridge.

973
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,760
He had to drop her off at the
Ridge before he left.

974
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,400
There's no way he could leave
her and Savannah by herself with

975
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,200
the kids.
It's just too many moving

976
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,440
pieces.
I know, I know.

977
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,640
In TV World, you can just skip
the months.

978
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,720
Yeah, like everything is good,
but I don't know.

979
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,600
And we don't need Fergus going
nowhere because we only.

980
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,360
Got 3 episodes left in this
season.

981
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,160
We don't need to go.
Not am where?

982
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,760
Not am place nothing.
Yeah, stay, stay.

983
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,120
Look.
Stay in.

984
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,400
Savannah, go to the Ridge.
Just be with your real family.

985
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,920
Be good.
You got all the riches you need

986
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,120
there like right now while
while.

987
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,240
Brianna and them there and they
will do what they going to do.

988
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:49,200
Everybody ride together.
Let's go together back to the

989
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:58,320
all together.
I mean, yeah, yeah, I'll go

990
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,880
ahead.
At least Rodger is.

991
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:06,520
Rodgers getting his guns.
So that right there, that was

992
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,640
another.
Scene that really touched my

993
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:13,720
heart because that man had given
up on them or like you know

994
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:16,560
totally like was whatever about
them because he was annoyed by

995
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,520
Jamie's actions.
But then because Rodger did what

996
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,920
he was, what he felt in his
heart he needed to do, and that

997
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,080
man saw that Rodger was this
great stand up person who fought

998
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,400
and stayed and was courageous
and he gave him what he needed.

999
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,800
It was just like just doing the.
Bit the good thing.

1000
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,320
Doing the right thing.
And then with him, you know, he,

1001
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,120
he's definitely wants to be a
minister.

1002
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,720
Like he's definitely wanting to
just do the minister thing and

1003
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:46,600
whatever.
And it's in his heart it's,

1004
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,400
it's, you know, 'cause he was
raised by the priest.

1005
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,800
I forget his name.
What was the priest's name?

1006
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:55,280
00 My God.
Wakefield.

1007
00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:59,160
Reverend Wakefield.
Reverend Wakefield.

1008
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,240
Yes.
Like, so it's it's it's kind of

1009
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,600
it's it's really sweet that he's
going in, you know, really going

1010
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,800
into it.
Like, this is he knows for sure

1011
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,120
this is who he is.
You know, like everything has

1012
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,680
just been so sweet in this
episode.

1013
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,960
Yeah.
So his little face when he read

1014
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,400
that note and he was like, he's
giving us the guns.

1015
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,520
I mean, we're going to war, but.
Right.

1016
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,160
Right.
We're going to war, but at least

1017
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,680
we're not.
Going empty handed, Yeah, we got

1018
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,320
that.
That's a good thing, We tripping

1019
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,520
about it because it's gonna be
a.

1020
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,400
Preacher and his wife breaking
the guns.

1021
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,280
Listen, I mean who?
Who would suspect?

1022
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,040
Who would suspect?
You know, so yeah.

1023
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,480
It was a.
It.

1024
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:48,600
Was a really good episode and
again, I do have a problem with

1025
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,720
the fact that Jamie just kind of
let Cunningham go and he he's

1026
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,160
kind of lenient with the man.
I won't.

1027
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,600
I won't.
Say I have a problem with it,

1028
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:04,320
but I just worry about what the
consequences of those actions.

1029
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,040
And, of course, Frank running
his mouth in the background.

1030
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,200
I need Frank to shut up now.
I need you to shut up.

1031
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,440
If you're not going to, like,
physically manifest yourself as

1032
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,600
a ghost onto the Ridge, I need
you to hush.

1033
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,280
Yeah, because you're not helping
things and.

1034
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:19,800
And.
Yeah.

1035
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,320
And because.
Yeah, I just, you know, I hated

1036
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,800
it from the get go, but I know,
I know.

1037
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:31,960
But he just all up in his.
Head and Oh my gosh, I just I

1038
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,360
just want them to be happy, man.
It's it sucks that like they

1039
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,120
just can't have too much to ask,
just a little.

1040
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,000
Piece I know.
They had to spend 20 years.

1041
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,640
Away from each other.
Let them have some peace.

1042
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,120
Yeah, They're making up for lost
times in these last 20 years

1043
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,680
have just passed.
Let let them have that.

1044
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,760
I just noticed I'm I'm sitting
here looking at it in the.

1045
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,240
Background.
I just realized really how white

1046
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,520
Claire's hair is getting.
Oh, right, that freak right

1047
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,040
there.
Not even just the street, but

1048
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,320
even on the edges, like her
hair, she has a pull back.

1049
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,160
It's mostly white in the front.
Yeah, it's definitely.

1050
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,840
A lot different.
Which, you know, that's her

1051
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,840
power coveted, apparently.
Listen.

1052
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,680
Listen.
And it's kind of cool because I

1053
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,600
had forgotten like.
It, you know, just so long since

1054
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,040
I watched the older seasons, But
when you were saying I forget

1055
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,080
who the lady was, was it a lady
that told her she would get her

1056
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,120
power?
Was a native lady or and it's

1057
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,240
funny because then you have
Emily who is like having

1058
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,400
prophetic dreams.
So like how it's just funny how

1059
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,520
that kind of ties together.
Like she's having prophetic

1060
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,000
dreams, she's coming into her
power.

1061
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,160
Like Jamie already has visions
or whatever his thing is.

1062
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,160
It's like, it's like all of,
it's really kind of cool how

1063
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,120
it's all come together.
Yeah.

1064
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,560
Which is.
Kind of like.

1065
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,240
Making me really want.
To I can't wait for blood of my

1066
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,320
blood to come because I need to
and we finally know it's coming

1067
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,120
back in the.
Fall yay.

1068
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,480
We just I I just need a date now
I need to know is it coming

1069
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,320
before dragon con or after
dragon con so I can prepare.

1070
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,480
Oh that's the point.
That's the point.

1071
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,920
Even way it goes, we'll be able
to talk about it in.

1072
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,840
Conjuration or even conjuran or
even conjuration.

1073
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,440
Exactly.
Yeah, But I, I, I kind of want

1074
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:20,960
to know.
Because I saw.

1075
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,080
Did you see the teaser trailer?
I didn't get to watch it yet.

1076
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,160
OK, but I was.
Yeah, I was because when you

1077
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,320
said that I was still working,
so I had to get a chance to come

1078
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,240
off and just go look at it.
But I'm definitely soon as I get

1079
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,880
it off.
Yeah, it doesn't give away a

1080
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:39,200
lot, but.
We do see, we do see Claire as a

1081
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,200
little girl.
So I don't know as you know, if

1082
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,120
that's another flashback or
something like that, but I was

1083
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,640
just like the fact that we we at
least know when to expect it and

1084
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,640
we know we don't have to wait
very long because, I mean, the

1085
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,080
first season just aired last
year, right?

1086
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,040
Yeah, Yeah.
At least we're not.

1087
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,520
Having to do these two.
And three-year hiatuses like

1088
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,040
they do with some of the other
shows.

1089
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:08,360
But they were smart to just keep
filming, you know?

1090
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:14,840
And just get it because, yeah.
And then having this to be here

1091
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,480
to kind of like pad pad the
weight a little bit, you know,

1092
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,120
is actually good too.
So I'm excited.

1093
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,720
I was.
Like, yeah, you fall.

1094
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,840
So we only.
So technically speaking, we only

1095
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,040
have a few months.
Yeah, yeah, because the summer

1096
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,800
is filled with things that are
coming.

1097
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,840
Out because we got House of the
Dragon, we got Vampire.

1098
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,320
Because they went in, you know,
it's funny, they.

1099
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,240
Said they were going to change
the name to the actual book

1100
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,040
title and then they changed the
name to the actual book.

1101
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,880
I'm sorry, the vampire list.
That yeah.

1102
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:50,640
So, yeah, but I cannot wait
because like I said, I I've

1103
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,440
gotten to where I love that show
as much as I love this this show

1104
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,920
because it's just, I, I feel
like the storytelling is great

1105
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,880
there.
You get to explore a little bit

1106
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,640
more because we don't really
know this, like especially with

1107
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,280
Claire's parents, we don't
really know their story.

1108
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:11,800
And because it's kind of made-up
for the show, you can kind of do

1109
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:12,280
a.
Lot of.

1110
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,600
Things and and still make it
make sense.

1111
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,600
So I know that about the show.
I know a lot of people don't

1112
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,360
like it.
That's OK Y'all will be all

1113
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,280
right.
I'll I'll watch the show enough

1114
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,520
for everyone and they probably
had whatever the ending.

1115
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,480
Or whatever is coming together
with this so that they could

1116
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,120
write and put it all together.
So once you know and then it'll

1117
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,280
it'll be seamless the way they
do it.

1118
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,040
I'm excited.
And that show, I mean, I don't

1119
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,760
know, like how people couldn't
like that show.

1120
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,760
It was so well done It it really
was.

1121
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,320
And the.
Characters the the actors are so

1122
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,640
good.
As the characters like, yeah,

1123
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,080
yeah.
So I'm very excited.

1124
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,440
I love.
It I'm I'm.

1125
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,840
So I'm so ready for.
It I'm so ready for it did we I

1126
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,040
think we covered everything,
didn't we?

1127
01:02:58,760 --> 01:02:59,600
Let's.
See.

1128
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,280
Yeah, I feel like we did.
Yeah.

1129
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:07,640
No, I think we did because.
I feel like this episode even

1130
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,280
though it.
Was still like an hour it felt

1131
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,240
so short yeah to me and every.
Each time I.

1132
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,960
Watch it, it just seems like it
flies by, but it also feels like

1133
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,640
they're putting a lot.
Of stuff in the episode, that's

1134
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,040
the thing, yeah, they're filling
it up for sure The the.

1135
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,880
Story is condensed a little bit.
Because of course, because of

1136
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,160
course that book is like, this
is huge.

1137
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:36,720
But I feel like they're doing
such a great job as far as what

1138
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,640
they've pulled from the books
and are putting in it.

1139
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,560
And I think I saw, I think Diana
Gabaldon said that this was her

1140
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:48,840
favorite episode so far because
it's it's almost like 75% book

1141
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,840
stuff.
OK, OK.

1142
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,760
Yeah.
I mean, I guess that's why it

1143
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,720
feels so good is because it was
written, you know, was pulled so

1144
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,240
much.
It wasn't like their take on the

1145
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,800
thing.
They kind of just kept the the

1146
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,720
heart of what she wrote more.
Yeah, because it's definitely.

1147
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,320
Probably one of my favorite.
Episodes of this whole season,

1148
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,600
for sure, yeah, and especially
because we.

1149
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,360
Oh, that's why also, that's why
it feels like there's so much

1150
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:23,200
because you literally we got to
see every bit of the family in

1151
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,200
this one.
You know, you still with some

1152
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,080
episodes you see like of course
you're going to see Claire and

1153
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,640
Jamie, you might see Brianna and
Rodger, but you don't see

1154
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,960
Ferguson Marshall and you might
get some Williams stuff or you

1155
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,880
might not.
But in this one we got all of we

1156
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,280
literally got the whole family
and got to see what they were

1157
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,520
doing.
I think the only people that we

1158
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:48,040
haven't seen are Lizzie and.
The kids, but I mean.

1159
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,720
We had Josiah in the Yeah, I was
about to say we had a twin.

1160
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,720
Yeah.
And we had buck, so we we.

1161
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:59,120
Have Buck.
So we literally have everybody.

1162
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,880
So I feel like they're doing a
good job because you're you're

1163
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,520
kind of compartmentalizing these
stories, but you're giving us

1164
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,240
everybody.
And I can kind of see where

1165
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,800
things are going to start coming
together to where everybody's

1166
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,440
going to come together because,
like I told Michelle, I just

1167
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,480
need them all to be together at
least once.

1168
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,800
Or for the final.
Episode Everybody needs to be

1169
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,040
together and I'll be happy.
You don't have to tell me what

1170
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,840
happens to.
Them next.

1171
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,280
I don't well, I told her, I said
if we can get all of them

1172
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,480
together 1 episode that she can
have her notebook.

1173
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:39,320
And then that's why I just want
to, I just want to see everybody

1174
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,640
together.
Yeah.

1175
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,480
I mean I.
Agree with her.

1176
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,480
I kind of that no, but you need
kind of works that kind of

1177
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,120
works.
I I kind of want that to, No, I

1178
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,000
mean, you know.
They don't need to die.

1179
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,800
They can be like I told her they
can be.

1180
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,120
Immortal.
I don't care.

1181
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,080
I mean, they really could,
honestly, because look how.

1182
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,240
Much stuff they survive so far.
Like surprise, some crazy shit

1183
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,400
and they're not there yet.
You know there's no way normal

1184
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,080
people would have survived half
or something, right JB?

1185
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,560
They definitely would have to
move though.

1186
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,040
No.
And maybe they can move to

1187
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:23,320
what's Ferguson's new land out
West, honey, Because I, I would

1188
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,280
like take the family and just go
because don't nobody know you

1189
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,680
out there.
Yeah, I mean you'd be able to

1190
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:30,960
start.
Over because you can't really go

1191
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,240
back to.
Scotland There's still people

1192
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:38,160
who know Jamie in Scotland and
will for at.

1193
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,400
Maybe a couple of other.
General, you know, a couple of

1194
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,760
generations, because even if
they weren't adults, they

1195
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,240
probably were children when he
was there or even the last time

1196
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,640
he was there, they probably
like, oh, we heard that the

1197
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:54,240
Laird is back or whatever.
So yeah, they could be.

1198
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,640
Immortal, but no I just I.
Just want to see them all

1199
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,320
together.
That's like my only stipulation

1200
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:04,200
for the the finale or, you know,
for what I want at the end of

1201
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,760
the season.
I want to see them all together.

1202
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,440
Yeah, that would be great.
Anything else?

1203
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,400
I need.
I need Jamie and.

1204
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,240
Lord John to make up I need
William.

1205
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,880
Oh my God, yes, I need William
to.

1206
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,480
Come to terms with.
Who he is as a person and who

1207
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,840
his his real father is, I need.
I would like to see that

1208
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,960
resolved.
I think Breanna really did help

1209
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:30,600
with.
That though?

1210
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,520
I think so.
I hope so.

1211
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,320
Because.
Because he needed to hear that,

1212
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:37,320
I think.
Yeah.

1213
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:42,120
Because she literally has the.
Same story, almost like raised

1214
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,480
by somebody else, didn't know he
was your dad.

1215
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:50,320
Like, I mean, hated him 'cause
you, you were mad at him, you

1216
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,440
know, like, yeah, right around
the same age.

1217
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,200
When they found out, yeah, Oh
yeah, yeah.

1218
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:04,840
But so yeah, 3 episodes left.
Oh my God.

1219
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:12,120
It's it's hard because the last
season had what, 16, 1717?

1220
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:16,760
Episodes and then we back down.
To the to the little minuscule

1221
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:23,359
10 yeah, I, I, I just.
I'm not ready.

1222
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,359
I'm not ready to let it go.
Oh no, sorry. 4 episodes. 4

1223
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:28,560
episodes.
Did I say 4?

1224
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,560
Oh, wait, So what is the six
this is?

1225
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,359
Episode 6.
So we have 4 episodes.

1226
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:36,000
I don't know why.
I'm thinking 7 because 7 because

1227
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,439
7 comes out tonight at midnight.
So I think that's my brain.

1228
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,040
It's Thursday.
My.

1229
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,840
Days are so off because we
usually do this on Monday and

1230
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,359
then my days are so off.
I'm like, wait, what?

1231
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,279
The last few, the last couple
of.

1232
01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:52,359
Weeks has been off because
especially without you being

1233
01:08:52,359 --> 01:08:56,560
here, like things have been
going on like again, we knew

1234
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,200
Michelle was going to be busy
because her her daughter is a

1235
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,040
senior this year.
This is like prom season.

1236
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,680
This is when all the senior
stuff is happening.

1237
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,600
So we knew the schedule was
going to be kind of crazy, which

1238
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,960
is one of the reasons why I've
never said like, OK, we release

1239
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,920
episodes on this day because we
all have lives.

1240
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,279
We all have stuff that that we
have to do.

1241
01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:19,479
And sometimes we just can't
record what we want to record

1242
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,840
some days.
And you got to edit like, it's.

1243
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,160
Yeah.
Got to edit and then of course

1244
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,720
you know I have chronic illness.
These migraines have been

1245
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,720
kicking my ass for the last
month and all this stuff

1246
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,640
happening.
So yeah.

1247
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:40,120
But hopefully for the next
episode, all three of us can can

1248
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,760
get together and do it.
Yeah, because we don't need the

1249
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,880
therapy session.
I'm just, I'm just going to put

1250
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,600
it out there.
We're going to need a therapy

1251
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,640
session.
Absolutely.

1252
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:55,200
Because, you know, they got to
start, they got to start doing

1253
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,640
some like emotionally damaging
stuff.

1254
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,280
We only have 4 episodes left.
Like we haven't been properly

1255
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:06,360
devastated yet this season.
So we have to have at least one

1256
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,840
event that's going to devastate
us always.

1257
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:16,720
So, yeah.
But I I tell you what though, as

1258
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,880
long as nobody.
'S getting sexually assaulted.

1259
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:24,560
I think I will be OK.
I think we're done with all of

1260
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,840
that.
Oh my God, like every time I

1261
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:27,920
turn.
Around somebody was getting

1262
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,320
sexually assaulted and I was
like, Diana, what is going on

1263
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,200
with your life, girl?
But you know what?

1264
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,160
Unfortunately, 17.
Hundreds, that was.

1265
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,800
I know, I know.
And that's one of the reasons

1266
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,040
why, like I know people.
Complain about that and I and I

1267
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:45,680
understand it, but it's also
like it was.

1268
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:50,120
That was a part of life.
Back then and you can't just

1269
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,800
shun away from it because it's
an ugly truth.

1270
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,640
That would be just like people
saying well I don't want to read

1271
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,160
about slavery outside.
Well guess what it existed and

1272
01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:59,520
y'all need to know what the fuck
happened.

1273
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,080
Well that's the thing.
Like I just.

1274
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,880
I think so.
For me, because like people used

1275
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,320
to say that about GLT, about
Game of Thrones, it needs to be

1276
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,960
mad about like how women were
treated.

1277
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,640
But I do feel like there was a
lot, a lot of men being treated

1278
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:19,680
very poorly Theon all that show.
But yeah, that's that's the

1279
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,160
thing about Game of Thrones.
They.

1280
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,400
Were equal opportunity
masochists horrible?

1281
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:28,040
And so I think over.
Time just seeing it happen, but

1282
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:32,400
also like you know, JB situation
him being assaulted like all the

1283
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:37,040
stuff like it started off in the
first first first two seasons

1284
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,560
already like so by the time the
Lionel Brown stuff happened I

1285
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,240
was like look, look at here I'm.
Tired of this?

1286
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,680
So I'm glad we don't have no
more of that.

1287
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,840
Yeah.
And I I think the way that they.

1288
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,400
Handled that particular episode
was they did it very well

1289
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,080
because we didn't like actually
see it.

1290
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,640
And also like with Brianna's,
like Brianna's was bad enough we

1291
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,160
heard it.
We didn't have to see it.

1292
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,360
But with Claire.
'S it's kind of like at as they

1293
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,920
implied it was happening, and
then of course she kind of went

1294
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,760
off into our own hair.
I like the way that they did

1295
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,200
that because it's like you're
letting us know what's going on

1296
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:18,600
without us having to watch it
and witness it.

1297
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,360
And I think that was very
powerful in the way that they

1298
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,640
did that.
But yeah, I don't think we have

1299
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:28,000
anything to worry about because
I don't think that's happened.

1300
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,640
I really just see stuff that's
happened.

1301
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,600
Yeah, shot and chopped up on the
battlefield and.

1302
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,440
See somebody be I just oh.
Child we got.

1303
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:39,840
Enough stuff coming up at a
certain age.

1304
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,960
I just I founded myself.
I'm more annoyed by stuff than I

1305
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,480
used to be.
You know, we are turning into

1306
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:47,760
our parents.
I.

1307
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,440
Mean like like now I can't.
Stand when they the whole story

1308
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:54,800
is a woman losing her child like
her baby or like you know,

1309
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,120
during pregnancy and she lose a
baby.

1310
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,880
Why is it driving the whole
story like so it's just a lot of

1311
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:01,280
different things.
And that was just one of the

1312
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,080
things about this over the
years.

1313
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:08,600
But oh, bravo, I I have
obviously loved Outlander.

1314
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:13,400
You know, I'm not going to bash
the show because of that, but

1315
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,920
like I just I was just like,
well, I just don't need nowhere

1316
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:20,560
that so but yeah, this episode
was one of my definitely one of

1317
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,480
my favorites.
It was really good and everybody

1318
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:29,200
is everybody just looking good
and happy, pretty spelling and I

1319
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,600
know and somebody, somebody
commented.

1320
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,520
They were like, is it just me or
is Jamie looking so much better

1321
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,440
this season?
They were like, the the wig is

1322
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,680
is good, the clothes are good.
I said, you know, we said the

1323
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,360
same thing about Rodger, too.
They were OK final season.

1324
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,360
Look, the glow up is real.
They all looking good.

1325
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,680
And I love the fact that Marsley
has her hair down all the time.

1326
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,160
I love it 'cause you know, she
was all covered.

1327
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,400
And, you know, and hair up and
pinned.

1328
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,760
I like it now.
Yeah, yeah.

1329
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,640
She's like, look, I'm gonna let
this.

1330
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,720
Let these luxurious locks flow.
I love it, I love it.

1331
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,480
I don't feel good to pop up.
On YouTube, but I I need to go

1332
01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:12,960
back and watch it.
They're in an interview

1333
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,120
together.
They're so cute.

1334
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,200
I love, I love their interviews
together.

1335
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,080
They.
They are so cute Yep.

1336
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:23,200
But oh, the other exciting thing
Lancon just announced the new

1337
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:28,280
guest.
We're getting Buck that that

1338
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,960
excited me because, you know,
he's become like one of my

1339
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,760
favorite characters on the show,
even though we don't get to see

1340
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,560
him as much, but.
He brings a lot.

1341
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,120
He brings a lot, right?
Like when he thought he was

1342
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:44,960
acting, his heart was like he
was panicking because it was 1

1343
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,680
was like a panic attack or
something he was having throwing

1344
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,440
him.
I can't remember, but he was

1345
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:53,920
talking about his heart.
Like his heart might have been

1346
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,520
strained by going through the
stones or something, but

1347
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,720
whatever it is, he seemed to be
cured of it now.

1348
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,120
You're going to keep it that
way.

1349
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,120
He could stay on the Ridge.
He But he protected Jamie when

1350
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:10,680
everybody else was gone.
When when Josiah was coming up

1351
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,800
with the group, he was up there
on the roof with his gun.

1352
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,600
He was.
Yeah, with people.

1353
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:20,120
Look, you.
Have it through as family, we

1354
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,080
good.
We good he 10 toes down.

1355
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,960
I'm here for it.
Oh.

1356
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,240
It was the last episode where JB
Eclair, I'm sorry, I keep

1357
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:30,840
breaking stuff up.
It was the last episode where JB

1358
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,120
Eclair was like, we better not
tell.

1359
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,160
But I killed, Oh yeah, that we
killed his parents.

1360
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,200
I don't want to do.
Now here's the thing.

1361
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:45,040
I think because of the fact.
That buck has gone.

1362
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:50,440
Through the stones because now
he, he is aware of kind of like

1363
01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:54,600
how maybe not how things work,
but how it affects things.

1364
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:59,040
I think if he were to find out
and, and they were to tell him

1365
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:04,440
what happened, I think he would
understand because Dougal was so

1366
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:09,360
Scotland, Scotland, Scotland, he
I don't think he would have

1367
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,360
listened to what they said.
And then also because of the,

1368
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,840
the how early it was in the
1700s, he probably would have

1369
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,080
been like, oh, she a witch, we
need to hang her.

1370
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,760
He probably wouldn't have done
it.

1371
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,720
Or maybe not because of the.
Fact that Galas was also, you

1372
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:30,760
know, people thought of Galas as
a witch and he loved her, she

1373
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,040
was.
One of my favorite characters

1374
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,920
though, she was pretty badass.
Evil, yes.

1375
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:43,760
I don't know if I would say
evil, but he was very, he was

1376
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,520
very self-serving.
Yeah, he was very self.

1377
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,840
Serving and.
Unfortunately, a lot of times

1378
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,680
when you're self-serving the
decisions.

1379
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,040
You make and the things that
you.

1380
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,440
Do are not on the up and up I.
Don't know I.

1381
01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:00,160
Don't think I would call him
evil though.

1382
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,480
No, I'm talking about gay list
because that's a whole

1383
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:04,240
different.
Yeah, gayness is evil.

1384
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,000
I.
Don't think Dougal was evil, I

1385
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:11,080
just think Dougal just.
Was proud and just like you said

1386
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,160
about Scotland, Scotland,
Scotland, like, you know, a

1387
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,360
little bit misguided, but yeah,
yeah.

1388
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:23,800
So OK. 4 episodes left and then
we can cry into our soup.

1389
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:28,560
Until the fall.
Hopefully next week we can.

1390
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,920
All three of us can be on.
Here and we can have our therapy

1391
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,000
session because we're definitely
going to need it.

1392
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:41,320
Yeah.
So I guess we'll just prepare

1393
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,120
for that, but.
For now, that is it for.

1394
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:48,600
Our show you can find us online
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1395
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,640
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1396
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,640
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1397
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,920
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1398
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,320
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1399
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,800
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01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,680
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