Outlander (SERIES FINALE) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #408

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Michelle and Dina and the
fandom.

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Hybrid Outlanders series finale
Therapy session is now in

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session How we feeling y'all how
are we feeling are we and.

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It's not because of the episode,
it's more of it's over.

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Yeah.
So I had to after watching the

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last episode yesterday, I I just
had to take a shower and just

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decompress because.
Yeah, yeah.

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It's like.
Eight seasons, 101.

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Episodes, I think they've been
filming this for 13 years.

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That's that's a lot of time to
invest into something and for it

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to be just over and done with.
I'm so sad.

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And, and to be there those 13
years, like even though I came

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in right when they were doing
the, the season finale on season

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1.
So that's pretty much the

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beginning.
That's, that's a long time that

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I didn't want to finish.
I didn't want to watch it 'cause

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I have an issue.
I do that a lot.

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It's like another show I really
love was Breaking Bad and it was

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the last episode.
It took like a year or so to

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watch the last episode because I
just didn't want it to be over.

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Right, right.
OK.

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And to know what happened, Yeah.
So this is the only reason it's

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'cause we talking about it
today, 'cause if not I would

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have just pushed this.
Well, you still have the books.

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Now you can really focus on the
books.

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Right, you can.
And I love how, and now we kind

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of jump it.
I love how they ended it, but

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'cause they left it where the
books carry on.

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So it's like, oh, that's good.
It's not like, you know, Game of

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Thrones where you you kill
everybody.

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Well, when he write the last
book, which he not, but whenever

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that last book come out with a
ghost writer, I.

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Was going to say, we can't even
get a last book.

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We can't even get a next book
with that one right?

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That's what I'm saying.
That's neither here nor there.

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But they they don't have
anywhere to go.

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But here we didn't really get
like the end.

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We got closure, but we didn't
get close.

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Right, so she can keep going.
It can be and we need to know or

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it can be open-ended depending
on like depending on really what

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kind of fan you are.
Because I've seen a lot of

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things online where there were
people who were really confused

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about what happened at the end.
And I think again, we, we talk

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about it, we dissect it.
So I think for us it's kind of

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obvious what happened.
But for some people who really

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didn't pay attention, especially
to all of the stuff about the

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blue light and the mentions that
they've had of it, if they

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weren't really into that part of
it, then there is it's going to

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go over their heads.
Because I even got an inbox from

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one of our, one of our
listeners, Todd, who does the

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Alienating Ourselves podcast
with our friend Nick.

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He, he messaged me.
He was like, OK, I have a whole

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list of questions.
And he, that was one of the

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questions.
But he also admitted he's never

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watched Outlander from the
beginning.

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He kind of came in like in the
middle of the show and just kept

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going.
So he's never watched it from

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the beginning.
So he was like, am I missing

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something with the the thing
with the flowers at the end and

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stuff?
I was like, yeah, I was like, I

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can either answer it now or I or
we can, you can listen to the

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podcast when we do it.
He was like, I'll wait for y'all

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to discuss it.
But yeah.

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So it's like if you're not into
the story, into the story or if

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you aren't a book reader, some
of those things.

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I do see how as a show only
person, especially, especially

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if you are, I would say you're a
fan, but you're not a, a super,

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super fan.
Like you don't take everything

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and dissect it and all this
other stuff.

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I I can see how it kind of goes
over your head or how you might

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have missed certain things or.
You just forget, like me.

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I forgot.
I don't forget so much stuff.

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And I was like.
And that's easy to do when

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you're when you're going like a
year and a half between seasons.

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Oh God.
And then it's been, like you

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said, 13 years.
Two, I can't remember what I had

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on last week.
Let me tell you, I'm supposed to

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remember somebody else's life
and those details.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But OK, let's get into the

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episode right off the top.
The throwback to the fiery cross

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and the battle cries of all the
clans that are there on the

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Ridge.
I was like, OK, yeah, I'll get

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this height for this battle.
Then you bring in the classic,

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original Outlander theme.
I started crying.

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I was like, you know what?
I was like, OK.

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Bringing Red Yarborough back for
the final episode of the show.

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The the the one that started it
all.

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I was like, OK, so y'all really
finna fuck with us from the

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beginning.
OK, I see what y'all are doing

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because I'm sitting there.
I had to pause and be like.

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Because I watched an interview
with her and her talking about

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it and I was like, girl, how
long you did this thing and

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forever what you talking about?
I was singing for Outlander and

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then when they had not heard her
voice, I was like.

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I did too and and then asked for
me because I was watching the

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previous episode but I needed to
get into this episode.

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I showed up, skipped it, didn't
even realize.

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Oh yeah, until just now,
back-to-back.

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Yeah, yeah, I was going
back-to-back.

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So did you go back and just
listen to it for?

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No, I just, I just found out.
Oh yeah.

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So now I got to go get off.
As much as you complain about

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not liking like, I just want
them to go back to the original.

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I like the original.
You need to go back and and and

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listen to.
It yeah, I do that's what I'm

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going to go back when we're done
to go back to the beginning

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because I've been through this
episode a few times but.

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And then to also end the show
with her as well, because the

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song they played at the end was
an original piece that they did

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for the show, also sung by Ray
Yarborough.

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I was like, OK, this is just
this is awesome because I love

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her voice.
Like I like the differences in

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the different in the different
themes for the seasons because

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it's it's very much regional
based on where they are.

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And I like hearing the different
interpretations of it.

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But there's nothing like that
original 1 like that, that one

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that kind of drew you in and
just kind of made you feel like

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this show was very mystical, you
know, back when it was a little

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more magical, you know, in the
beginning.

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So I, I very much love that.
Before we go into the rest of

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it, Michelle, since you weren't
here last week, we got to get

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your thoughts on a couple of
things.

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OK, so let me go to my lovely
text Ryan to remind me of what

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happened.
All right, so episode 9,

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correct?
OK, so episode 9 one the first

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thought they did not kill Lord
John, 'cause I'm not watching no

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more.
That's how I was feeling.

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So what kind of shit is this?
Yeah, we're not doing this.

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We're not doing this second.
Well, sure enough, Jamie was

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looking really great coming out
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And then when he was dry, like
the oils dried, right, that hair

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was laid.
I was like, oh, he's looking

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quite yummy there.
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Quite yummy even before.
What was the name of the guy who

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took him?
Now I forgot.

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Richardson, Richardson.
So it was kind of cool to see.

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Or did we already know that?
So yes, lost track.

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Did we know he was a traveller?
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He's the guy that I told you
when Brianna and the kids were

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driving away from Lallybrock,
when they were trying to escape

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Rob Cameron, there was a guy who
was trying to hold the van open

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and Brianna smashed his finger
in the van and Rob Cameron

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called out for him.
He was like, that's actually

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Callahan.
And I think they didn't really

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focus on it in the show.
Because it was in the book.

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Yeah, but it was in the book.
Like, yeah, he was, I won't say

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a major character, but he's
about as major in the books as,

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let's say, Cleveland or
Cunningham was in the show.

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Because in the books he's
presented as an older guy who

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basically knows some history
about the Scottish area.

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And when Rodger is trying to,
he's when they're fixing up

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Lolly Brock, there is a
structure on the grounds that

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looks like it could have been
like an old church.

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You know, how they used to have
like, they, they would have like

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being small churches, family
worship, little areas on the

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grounds.
So he was there to kind of look

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it over and say, hey, yeah, we
can, we can kind of restructure

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this.
We can, you know, we can

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renovate it.
And so he was there a lot

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getting to know Rodger, getting
to know Brianna, getting to know

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the kids, and then to turn
around and find out that he's

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one of these guys that's like
really trying to do all this

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bullshit to Brianna and the
kids.

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So it's a lot more detailed in
the book, but in the show it you

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had to really pay attention to
see that that was him in the 19

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in 1980.
Yeah.

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So I'm kind of glad they threw
it in there like that and just

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kind of, you know, well.
It was it.

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It was not.
It was nice.

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I'm going to give him an A for
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If it was anybody else he
kidnapped, we would be fine.

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And that's, that's you know what
I'm saying?

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So it was a try.
Then I was like, OK, let him

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try, let's see what happens.
And then, damn, he was dead.

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I was like, OK, well, but I do
kind of believe her because I

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was like, how's she going to go
with this?

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But she has.
They have tried.

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They have tried.
But I feel like from all the

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stuff we have watched and even
in the world, period, they're

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going to be core moments in life
that you just can't change

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because it drives what has to be
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So, yeah, that would have been
great, you know, changing

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slavery and all.
But I think that's just the part

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of history that needs to be
there.

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And it just has to be there.
So but but a for effort, you

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know, for your goals, for Trump,
you know, you didn't make it.

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But, you know, I am finally,
finally glad that John told

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Jamie off.
Let's go back to the part real

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quick where Jamie said, I
forgive you.

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I said forgive you for what?
And I'm glad that everybody else

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in the room knows that too,
because even clever that him

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like, yeah, a hole.
What?

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What are you talking about?
I'm like forget, forget, forgive

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me.
Forgive.

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You know what, get out my house.
Thank you for rescue me.

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See you.
So I was so glad that John told

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him off.
Like dude, I'm not some piece on

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the side of the road, a street
that you never met before.

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Like you have endeared your son
to me.

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Like we had this long lasting
friendship over the years.

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Really.
Yeah.

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It's because you said you wanted
to be with me.

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Dude, it's hard to explain.
You were dead.

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We just had each other.
Yeah, we missing you, but you

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got beat me to like you going to
kill me.

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Yeah, yeah.
I was finally glad for that, you

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know what I'm saying?
What else?

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Oh, I know what you was really
glad about.

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Oh, Oh yes, because William
finally said something I

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complained about over every
podcast that he does not see the

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Gray things.
It's black and white with his

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kid, black and white.
And he finally said it.

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So you know what?
I feel like someone's listening.

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See, see, there's two things.
Y'all y'all got two things.

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Two things.
Somebody listening?

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Am I listening?
So this is the thing Diana

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Galbadon wrote that episode.
She wrote Episode 9.

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Right.
But that's how we were feeling

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about this little boy.
Because I'm like, honey,

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everything ain't.
You didn't tell me the truth.

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We can't tell you the truth.
Yeah.

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There's something else.
I'm like, you know what?

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I can't with him but now he see
it.

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When she said, well, what is
that going to change our future?

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He was like, you don't want me
to lie to you.

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I was like I said, This is why
we need to be watching this

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together because I needed to
have Michelle's facial

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expressions on film.
It it was, it was fantastic.

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And I'm like, honey, so sorry
you're not the one.

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You're not the one.
You're not the one.

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You will not receive a rose at
the end of this episode.

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I am sorry.
Right.

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Left.
Right, so now I I like William

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again.
Yeah, I'm glad he he he

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definitely, he definitely got
his shit together and I'm very

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happy about that.
Right.

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Yeah, so, so for all that
episode, that's how they end it

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was it was a good episode.
You hit all the pieces.

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But I'm going to tell you right
now, Jamie was fine like wine

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boy and dry.
It has to it has to be the

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season 8 glow up or something,
because in in this current

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episode, the final episode,
Roger Matt was looking like a a

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a Mackenzie snack.
He is now that boy put some

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weight on, That's what it is,
'cause I know that too.

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He, he, he, he, he.
He got a little bulky and he got

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it behind on something.
Yeah, he got some.

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He got some thickness on in my
life.

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Yeah, he does.
I I feel that again.

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I was like, oh, I don't.
Know if it was clothes or if

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it's 'cause I know he's doing
several other roles.

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Like he's been picked up for a
couple.

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You know, a couple.
Of you know what that could be?

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I don't know what it is.
I don't know if it's married

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life, 'cause he got married last
year during that.

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I don't know what it is, but
Rodger is looking good.

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Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah.

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But OK, let's get into this
episode because there are some

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things, there are just a couple
of nitpicky things that I have.

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And it's not anything major.
It's just things that, you know,

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bothered me, like the fact that
when they did the the fiery

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cross, I was like, the last time
you did that, Fergus was, you

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know, you know what little I'm
just saying, I'm just saying,

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you know, Fergus could have been
here for all of this.

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So OK, I know we.
OK.

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But something bothered me and I
don't know if I should have took

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it this way, but it did bug me
the way they wrote it when Jamie

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was doing his will.
And he's like, you know, Ian is

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like a son, you know, his nephew
who's like a son and to my

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natural born son.
And I don't know, that just

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rubbed me the wrong way.
Like, I get it.

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Yes, he is your natural born
son, but you had another son and

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obviously you left stuff to his
children, his wife.

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But it just feels real like
that, like.

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It.
It felt like my only son is what

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I.
No, it's just that he now

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because he was dead.
I mean, what are we going to say

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in there to my other son?
I leave heaven.

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You know I mean.
What?

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What are we going to say?
I felt.

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Like he could have just been
like and to my son, period.

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But I.
Think he probably had to do that

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because again, up to this point,
family knows that William is his

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son.
So you know, if if you're a

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person of that time and you're
going through this will and you

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know that everybody that he is
naming in this will is like his

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natural family or family to him,
then you have this 9th Earl of

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El Smear that you leaving
something to and it's like why

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you didn't leave anything to
Lord John Gray.

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So why would you leave it to his
son?

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So I think that's probably why
he had to put that language in

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there.
And it also was like his it was

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his final and only an
opportunity to publicly say this

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is my son.
I know it just made me mad

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because I.
And then, like William, get to

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hear it.
You get what I'm saying too?

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He wrote it, so will you can
hear.

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It I do feel like that is the
thing, like, you know, it's the

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claiming you everything.
He left the the biggest thing to

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Brianna because she's the
oldest.

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Yeah.
And I did love that.

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I don't know, it just rubbed me
the wrong way.

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Just maybe just because I was
just in my feelings about Fergus

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not being there.
I tell you, I feel I've been

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saying this since Fergus that I
was like, it feels like y'all

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were taking y'all took away one
song, one son to replace him

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with the other and the whole
Bible just felt wrong.

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And you know, the other thing is
I, I haven't really watched a

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lot of the interviews or
anything yet this week just

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because I watched this and I was
also dealing with a migraine

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this week.
So I just haven't had a chance

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to.
But I did see where someone, I

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believe it was, I believe they
were doing an interview about

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Fergus's death.
And Matt, Matt was like, well,

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you know, we felt like there had
to be something there for like a

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big emotional impact for Jamie
and Claire this season.

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OK, I get it.
But the problem that I have is

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you made you made such a
decision about this huge person.

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Again, Fergus has been with them
longer than any of them.

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OK, so you make the death about
this big person and then you

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really don't have them dealing
with it the way that I feel like

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they like this was their son.
Yeah, we got the little funeral

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episode.
And I understand there's some

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time jumps and all of this, like
from the time that all this

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happened.
It's been about two years.

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So.
Well, yeah, no, it's been a

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little bit over a year because
Brianna was pregnant, but still,

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it's kind of like y'all could
have done without that emotional

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impact because you didn't even
address it in the rest in in the

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next couple of episodes.
But that's again, that's my

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little nitpick.
But that's also because Fergus

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was one of my favorite
characters and I just I I still

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right now with everything over
and done with, I still don't see

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the that there was a point for
his his death.

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Like it didn't do anything for
the story because Jamie and

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Claire didn't even like really
they didn't.

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I know, but they still had to
have a death because we couldn't

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have the kid we.
Couldn't have who?

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The kid, we couldn't have this.
The child die.

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They didn't have to have anybody
die.

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Well, that's in the book.
They were.

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They were going with the books.
No, because it has no impact to

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the story.
Well, see, that's the that's the

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thing.
Too many other things that are

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we going to get to it?
This was a beautiful the last

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two episodes beautiful.
But like I said before, some of

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that stuff early on wasn't
needed anyway.

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It didn't help add or do
anything to this story.

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No, because we didn't have a
wait.

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We could have left face stuff.
Alone that wouldn't even need

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it.
Y'all just going to just say you

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taking this child and you raised
them as a family but y'all do

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that with other people.
Y'all pick up orphans all the

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time.
They don't have to be the time

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that's related to you all.
The time so.

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Even in the beginning, looks
like you dragged some things

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out.
You didn't have to, you could

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have just made this 6 episodes.
No, they could have just done

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they could.
There's some other things they

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could have done that I think
would have enriched the story.

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But the faith again, I'm I'm not
a fan of what they did with the

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faith storyline because it makes
no sense.

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Even with the whole thing with
the last episode with Fanny

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picking up the rock and it
cracking.

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Literally you did that with Jim
and the only the only follow up

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to that was that in this episode
you get the whole thing where

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Jamie says that Mandy told him
that Davey, you know, is.

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Is like water.
Like Jamie.

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So that means that David can't
travel.

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Y'all didn't have to do a whole
faith storyline for that y'all?

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Right.
We, we, we did, yeah.

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We didn't have to do that.
Instead, what you could have

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done is give me some Easter eggs
for blood of my blood.

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It was the brother, the brother
kids or something.

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You know what I'm saying?
Like there's some meet up in the

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future.
We may.

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Prince by the Prince Charlie.
Who is it?

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I want to know.
Right.

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So you know, you could have done
that.

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So you know.
And it's also like.

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So there's a lot of things that
they could have just not paid

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to.
Build us up to the fact that

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Claire's power was going to be
the thing at the end and they

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thought they had to like draw
back in the whole master master

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Raymond story and all that
stuff.

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So people will understand why
Claire had this because it's not

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like they really have focused on
her having this power and, you

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know, another seasons and they
just kind of sort of brought it

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out again.
And then, you know, the whole

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story.
And so I guess I feel like they

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had to tie it into something.
But The thing is, like you said,

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if people aren't heavily into
the lore of the of the story,

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they didn't know what the hell
happened at the end anyway.

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Because the measure of book
reader, you don't know to look

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for the blue glow that that
apparently was very faint

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because I wasn't even paying
attention for the the blue glow.

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Because I already knew kind of
what was supposed to happen in

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that scene.
Because this scene, this whole

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battle and everything takes
place in book 9, which is the

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book that has already been, you
know, has been out.

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So I knew that she was going to
be able to heal him.

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I didn't know if that's what
they were going to do for the

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show because apparently they
filmed like 4 different finales

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and even the actors, even the
cast didn't know which one they

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were going to use.
But it's like if you weren't

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that focused on that storyline
or if you didn't understand the

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whole thing about Claire, you
know, being one of the

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travellers who has this ability
to heal, it wouldn't make sense

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to you.
Yeah.

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Right.
Even.

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But even bringing in faith, like
I didn't even even put that

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together about her healing and
faith at all.

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Like it didn't even make me
think of it.

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Like only reason I know about
the you know, the healing was

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from two things.
One, when they said she come

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into a full power, she got the
the white hair and two, you saw

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the color with the baby.
So that this point in time, if

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you don't even read the books
like I didn't, you're at the end

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screaming at her heal him.
What are you doing?

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Stop rubbing him.
Get the power, get the power.

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Because that's what I was doing.
So I think it feels like the

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only reason why they even
brought the faith storyline in

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is to show that okay yes, even
after hours, if she has that

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power, you can do it because she
literally laid with that man.

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All night, yeah.
And into the day, like we really

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know how long this was.
That's.

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What I was going to bring up to
you Hanukkah, remember you had

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said that thing about Faith the
baby was dead and she held the

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baby the whole day and then all
of a sudden it's crying and it's

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keep passing it on to the lady.
And you have said that.

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So as soon as I saw that, I was
like, oh, I see what they did

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there.
That's why I was like, that's

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the only reason why they brought
the Master Raymond face stuff

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up.
It's because they wanted to

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explain the end, but it didn't
explain the end.

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People who didn't know.
Yeah, 'cause I wasn't even put

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putting that together about that
would explain why I just was

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like she powerful.
You know what I'm saying?

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It's love.
Hurry up and do it.

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What are you waiting for?
Where?

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Are you?
Like she was.

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Calling Spirit back what?
So now it makes me even mad that

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Master Raymond did it because,
like, that means you were like

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trying some stuff, that you were
doing a science project and it

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worked.
And then now you want to be

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00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:12,120
like, well, you know, can't find
your mom, dude.

448
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:13,800
That's not the time to do the
science project.

449
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,240
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I mean, in the end, OK, The

450
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,200
end result, Michelle got her
notebook ending and then I got

451
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,920
my happily ever after because
she did kill him and bring him

452
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,880
back to life.
Because it's like basically when

453
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,680
you see them and her hand drops,
I said, did they really kill

454
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,440
these motherfuckers Like.
She did, and that was my.

455
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,880
Heart.
Heartbreak, it just felt like.

456
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,800
I was like, yes.
Oh.

457
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,320
But it but it was very
appropriate for what it for what

458
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,040
it was.
I was like, OK, I really don't

459
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,760
want them to die, but if this is
how they're going to die, I was

460
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,680
good with it.
I was like, OK, you know what?

461
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,720
I've made my peace with this.
This is the show ending is not

462
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,680
the book ending.
We don't know how the book is

463
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,240
going to end.
So I was like, you know what?

464
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,560
They did a really good job with
that.

465
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,480
Just the way she wouldn't let go
of his body.

466
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,080
And she was just kind of like,
she was feral.

467
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,040
I mean, Clara used the word fuck
in the last two episodes.

468
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,360
They said they were going to get
it in before the end.

469
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,400
She was like, don't you fucking
touch him?

470
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,920
I was like, OK, when when she
seemingly died as well and we

471
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,000
got the little montage.
I said, OK, you know what?

472
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,400
I'm actually OK with this.
And then they come back to them

473
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,200
and they thought they she's got
the white hair, I said.

474
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,480
I mean, it was white.
Literally I was sitting on my

475
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,640
couch like this, like Yep, give
it to me.

476
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,760
Wait, got to give it to me and
then they both of them.

477
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,040
I was like, yeah.
Eyes open.

478
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,360
Perfect timing guys.
They did great.

479
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,680
Eyes open, breath at the same
time.

480
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:56,520
Listen, I was like, yes, because
you do leave it open for the

481
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,320
story to continue later on.
And again, they've not ruled out

482
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,120
the fact that, Oh yeah, we might
come back to this later on.

483
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,760
We may do a you know, we may do
a movie once the 10th book is.

484
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,400
Out.
It may pop up in blood, in my

485
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,760
blood, you never know.
They can do that too.

486
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,760
I.
Like the fact that they actually

487
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,440
left it kind of open-ended.
It's like if you wanted them to

488
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,000
die at the end, you can have
that.

489
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,280
But also, so yes, there's this
thing where she she healed him,

490
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,480
she brought him back to life and
now they can go back now.

491
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,000
But here's the thing.
Y'all in in in 1780?

492
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:38,520
Yep, that's what I was thinking.
Your ass was dead overnight.

493
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,400
We went to go back to the Ridge
and and people are going to be

494
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,960
like, oh anger, this is a witch.
Yep.

495
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,960
Yeah, yeah.
But I think the way they

496
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,120
explained.
It in the book, I think she kind

497
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:57,360
of she kind of explained it like
he wasn't actually dead.

498
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,840
He was kind of in a coma.
He was.

499
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,000
I think that's how she explained
it because I I hope.

500
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:08,160
So that he was bleeding out.
The mouth with her being.

501
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,800
Able to that's true when you
have blood out your mouth, it's

502
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,600
over it's.
Over.

503
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,840
Yeah, but OK, so here's my
gripe.

504
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,360
Here's my only gripe about the
whole death scene and

505
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:20,920
everything.
Y'all didn't check that fucker

506
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,280
before y'all?
Just that's what I said too.

507
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,440
I said how you going to arrest
somebody and you didn't get that

508
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,920
good.
I'm mad at you.

509
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,760
I'm mad at whoever was over
there.

510
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:34,640
You know one of the twins where
the other twin at That's.

511
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,000
Why?
Who was it?

512
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,960
Was was it one of the twins?
I can't remember.

513
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,880
I don't know, I'm just blaming
it because both twins should

514
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,560
have been there.
I don't understand why 1 twin?

515
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,560
Was like it was too.
He was at home with Lizzie and

516
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,160
the kids.
All the other men was gone.

517
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,440
He.
Was he was it was like 2 randos

518
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,840
who just picked him up off the
ground.

519
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,240
I'm like nobody searched his
food.

520
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,520
Nobody thought.
No, nobody.

521
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,800
Nobody.
Yeah.

522
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,960
So let me tell So Dina didn't
hear the story.

523
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,240
Hanukkah did somewhat yesterday.
So I I was yesterday in bed

524
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,760
sick.
I was like, let me go ahead,

525
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,400
watch my episodes in the middle
of our call.

526
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,880
Hanukkah.
I can't do this.

527
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,920
I don't want to finish this.
I can't.

528
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,560
I'm already started crying.
Push through.

529
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,640
I can't keep going.
You you gonna love it.

530
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,200
Just keep going.
I said I don't know.

531
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,760
We are to the deaf scene here.
I'm over here.

532
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,280
Like hell no.
What is happening?

533
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,040
The person I'm related to by
marriage.

534
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,760
Come in the room then he ain't
looking at the TV.

535
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,680
He immediately gets on the bed
over me and he was like, are

536
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,800
you?
Crying I see blocking the TV and

537
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,920
did not push the moment.
Timing was bad.

538
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,400
Turn look like well, what you
watching?

539
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,240
Really.
Oh, is he dead?

540
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,560
Oh God.
And he's telling me about this.

541
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,080
Last night we recorded.
I mean, he was over me and I

542
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,200
pushed him get out the way.
I said, I said, did you watch it

543
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,960
with her?
He said, so let me tell you what

544
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,520
happened.
I was like, oh Lord.

545
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,360
He was like, yeah.
He said, I'm looking at me.

546
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,720
He said I didn't even realize
what she was watching.

547
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,680
I was just like, are you crying?
And she was like, yes, he's

548
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,040
there.
Can you get out my?

549
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,600
Wall and I pushed him over
because literally I need to see

550
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,120
what's going to happen here
because since she was this is

551
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,120
the part where she was like
about she stretched out and I'm

552
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,080
like, oh, here we go.
Here we go.

553
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,560
Right, Yeah, yeah, Michelle's.
So I.

554
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,360
Missed the blue at that point to
be complete, I didn't even get

555
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,480
to see the blue 'cause it went
on to the next scene and which

556
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,240
was beautiful.
Yeah.

557
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,920
Which basically means oh.
That.

558
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Sucks.
What comes first, chicken or the

559
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,920
egg?
Right.

560
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,320
I will say this, yes, an avid
show watcher, as a book reader,

561
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,800
as someone who has done multiple
panels about time travel, I will

562
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,760
say that scene, I may have to
watch it a couple more times to

563
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,520
kind of understand it because it
is that whole what comes first,

564
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,000
the chicken in the head?
Because if you're looking at if

565
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,000
you're looking at it the way
they presented it, you got

566
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,760
Jamie's ghost, you got him
looking up at Claire.

567
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,880
You have him leaving, he goes to
the stone.

568
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,480
So this is a Jamie who who
already knows that Claire is a

569
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,040
time traveller.
You know, this is this is maybe

570
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:43,000
later season 1, early season 2
Jamie, who knows who she is and

571
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,160
is like, OK, this is the stone
that she's on.

572
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,600
When he went to go touch the
stones, I said, OK, if y'all

573
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,200
about to flip the script and and
like I thought they were about

574
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,240
to do something weird like OK,
now Jamie can come to I.

575
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,120
I didn't know what I was
thinking when he touched the

576
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,480
stones and he was like, OK,
yeah.

577
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,680
And he turns around and walks
off and then the forget me nots

578
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,520
just kind of bloom there.
I'm like, OK, so are they saying

579
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,000
that Jamie went to the future or
his ghost was there and planted

580
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,840
the forget me nots in order for
her to come then?

581
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,720
But then that's weird because
again, like how would you even

582
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,320
know who she is until she came
back?

583
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,000
So it's it's because.
It is because he's dead.

584
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,320
And The thing is, she didn't do
what Rodger said she was

585
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,440
supposed to do when he died.
Because when you do those rights

586
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,760
and do whatever you needed to,
he was going to go and send to

587
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,840
heaven, right.
Even now, I don't know.

588
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,280
Jamie killed a lot of people.
So but we going to say heaven.

589
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,040
But he was in the in between
place.

590
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,960
He was in.
Yeah.

591
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,520
So in that in between place, he
walked around and waited for us.

592
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,400
So one of the things he did was
he went to go visit her and he

593
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,720
saw her.
And then he he knows that one of

594
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,920
the things she wanted that made
her return to the rocks was the.

595
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,680
Forgive me, nots.
Me nots so that's what I'm

596
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,960
saying.
So what being but?

597
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,600
He didn't know that until she
told him.

598
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,040
Right.
But then it's just.

599
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,960
This is because time is never.
Time is a construct.

600
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,360
Right, right.
And then he.

601
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,160
Died and became all knowing in
the afterlife.

602
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,080
Right.
It's forward and backwards,

603
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,960
forward and backwards.
Sideways and then come back

604
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:20,760
come.
To me.

605
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,720
That's why time travel is a
bitch.

606
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,960
That's why I don't.
I don't like talking about you.

607
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,560
Present your you.
Present yourself in your best

608
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,760
form to you.
So to him, that was his best

609
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,480
form.
And when they first was like in

610
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,120
their most passionate.
So he was drawn to her in that

611
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,360
time period.
Yeah.

612
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,480
And, and because also they had
discussed previously when he

613
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,000
asked her, would she have not
wanted to see those flowers?

614
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,640
Like if she could change things
or whatever and she's like, Oh

615
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,240
no, I will see them flowers
every lifetime.

616
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,160
Like basically, you know, so I
think that was in his

617
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,520
subconscious and he took that to
the afterlife with him.

618
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,600
Right, right.
Yeah, yeah.

619
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,480
And then he and then they flash
through their flash, through

620
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,280
their life.
Yeah, because then you say in

621
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,800
the 10th book she's also going
to explain that.

622
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,480
So maybe she gave them that
little piece about what it

623
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,639
meant.
OK, so she still didn't say.

624
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,520
No, that was, that was their
version of that was their

625
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,040
interpretation.
OK, OK.

626
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,719
Yeah, because I think.
Someone which I don't think she

627
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,080
can go that much off of that
because this makes the most

628
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,600
sense.
Yeah, possible.

629
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:36,239
Yeah, because I think someone
asked her a question on her

630
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,239
Facebook page and asked her if
anything that they used for

631
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,880
these last last couple of
episodes is that stuff that she

632
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,600
has in the book.
And her answer was hell no.

633
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,400
So basically she's like, no,
this is their own thing.

634
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,719
This is base stuff.
So we'll still get the Jamie the

635
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,480
Jamie ghost explanation, but it
won't necessarily be what this

636
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,920
is.
Which I from the beginning, I

637
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,120
said it wouldn't make sense for
her to put her 10th book stuff

638
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,280
in the show anyway, because
again, if you're a book fan, you

639
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,760
don't want it.
You want to be able to read the

640
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,280
conclusion of a story,
especially if you've been

641
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,200
reading these books for 30
something years since they came

642
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,360
out.
You don't want the book ending

643
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,560
spoiled for you in the show.
So that's why that's also why I

644
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,560
didn't have a problem with it
being being different.

645
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,600
Like if she kills them in the
book at the end or if you know,

646
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,000
because again, she's already
healed him and and go tell the

647
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,480
bees I am gone.
So whatever is going to happen

648
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,720
in the 10th book, I think if
something else happens, if

649
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,440
there's another battle, which,
Oh my God, I hope it's not

650
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,160
because when I say this man
cannot stop fighting.

651
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,920
This is.
It but if if something like that

652
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,240
does happen in the 10th book, I
feel like at that point he kind

653
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:03,480
of has to die.
Like if you think about it, we

654
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,680
always joke about the fact that
Jamie has 9 lives like a cat.

655
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,800
There's in books.
That means that he's practically

656
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,160
almost died in every single
book.

657
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:20,400
So he almost has to in the 10th
book I feel like, but you know,

658
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,040
I don't want him to die.
But that's just, you know.

659
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,000
Maybe that's his magic that he
has all these lives and these

660
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,880
these he can survive most
things.

661
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,720
I mean, because he's what isn't
he?

662
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,440
What does he hear?
What does he see go?

663
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,480
What does he see?
Is it ghosts in the books or he

664
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,920
can see what was it?
He he can, he has visions of

665
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,160
like the future.
No, the future, that's what it

666
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,800
is, yeah.
Yeah, which is so.

667
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,480
It's just so that is so funny to
me because I remember when that

668
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,880
first started and I was like,
how's he getting vision of the

669
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,960
future?
But I mean a story with time

670
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,120
travel.
There was a black thing.

671
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,760
Wasn't like Jim on the phone or
something else?

672
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,520
Right.
He saw Mickey Mouse.

673
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,880
I'm like, what?
OK, OK, OK, sure.

674
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,840
Now I'm like you know what it
don't even matter we in time

675
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,400
travel.
We we time travel, it's already

676
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,640
a a fantasy, right?
Right.

677
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,240
Right now we got to talk about
this battle because at first I

678
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:22,800
did not want the entire episode
focusing on the battle, but I

679
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,600
think the way that they did it,
I didn't.

680
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,920
It was.
It was good.

681
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,480
They did a really good like the
goodbyes, like they really, they

682
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,240
really pulled our heartstrings
at the beginning of the episode

683
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:39,000
that first, you know, like maybe
15 minutes because you have all

684
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,720
of the goodbyes.
And you also realize this is

685
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,120
like literally the cast saying
goodbye to each other and to the

686
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,680
characters.
And, you know, I was, I was a

687
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,000
little sad that we didn't get
like a moment with everyone

688
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,120
together.
But again, it's kind of like the

689
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,960
way that they handled it, I
think it was great.

690
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:01,960
Like we got to have kind of, you
know, Jamie got his happy ending

691
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,680
with Lord John and William in
the last episode.

692
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,360
You know, he made his amends
with Lord John.

693
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,080
He made his amends with William.
He gave him the look back to

694
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,720
say, hey, you know what?
I'm not I'm not abandoning you.

695
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,680
We got that moment.
We got the the kind of closure

696
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,960
with him and Marsley, even
though again, yes, I'm kind of

697
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,520
upset that we didn't see more of
her in Ferguson this season.

698
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,360
But you know what?
It was a beautiful goodbye.

699
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,880
And that's how that's one thing
they do really well with the

700
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,640
characters.
Even with Ian and Rachel, you

701
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,680
know, Rachel walking him up to
the house and then she was like,

702
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,840
Nope, this far enough.
This is this is the limit to

703
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,800
where I'm going.
You go do your thing and you

704
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,320
bring your ass back home.
You know, is it was just the

705
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,600
emotion was great.
And then you get to the fighting

706
00:38:53,240 --> 00:39:02,520
and I got to say I did not feel
any kind of sympathy when Hiram

707
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,000
Crombie fell.
I was like, see you later, Sir.

708
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,280
And fighting like a beast, Buck.
Oh my gosh.

709
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,120
Buck is bringing some Dougal
energy to to this fight.

710
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,040
Like I'm like, yeah, you get it
from your daddy.

711
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,440
You get it, honestly.
You get it from your daddy.

712
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,680
Yes, because the way he was
whacking and shooting and saving

713
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,640
this person and saving that, I
was like, OK, yes.

714
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,880
Bringing Buck back I think was
one of the best decisions they

715
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,200
made for this final season.
Having him come in, having him

716
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,840
being a part of the family, you
know, just kind of really

717
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,120
getting in there with the
family.

718
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,360
Like, OK, you know what, I'm 10
toes down for y'all.

719
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,440
I'm going to do whatever Buck
like.

720
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,960
Best decision of the eighth
season was bringing him back.

721
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:02,920
Yes, that that was, yes.
But yeah, I 'cause I text Hunko

722
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,280
about Ian.
I was like, he was all in and

723
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,000
then Buck was right beside him.
Yeah, but again, that's the way

724
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,080
him and Fergus used to fight.
But you know.

725
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,600
Right.
And then there was Claire.

726
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:24,680
Girl let me tell you it ain't
bad enough.

727
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:30,200
You already have PDPTSD that
we've seen in in season 1 from

728
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,840
you being in wars.
Now you going to go traipsing

729
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:43,480
through the forest in the middle
of an active battle to go find

730
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:48,240
your husband?
You lose your medical bag and

731
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:49,920
the only thing you can say is
shit it was.

732
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,480
Right there, Claire, just pick
it up.

733
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,400
But see, when you had so many
bullets and stuff, I text Hongo.

734
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,160
I said, you know, God knows I
love Anthony, but I am not

735
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,320
tracing through a battle.
OK, up ahead.

736
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,560
For him I will wait till the
battle ends and then go seek

737
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,880
forth.
Because how many times did she

738
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,320
almost get her head blown?
Out several times.

739
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,680
Come on.
I said, you know what, it's not

740
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,400
He will go die.
She is.

741
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,360
Like he told you and Roger Mack,
the priest or the preacher and

742
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,480
the healer, stay behind and here
she come running up the hill.

743
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,200
I was like.
And she almost got him messed up

744
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,320
because she distracted him the
first time he almost died.

745
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,360
Yep, like Claire, I understand
you.

746
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,480
You're worried about him, but I
need you to make some better

747
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,200
decisions, girl.
That's probably the reason why

748
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,240
you don't really need to know
your fate, because they were

749
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,920
doing so much to try to stop it
that they all they made it worse

750
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,880
really.
Yeah, And you make stupid

751
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,200
decisions.
Yeah.

752
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,840
You know, because her whole
thing, she's sitting there.

753
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,200
I'm.
I'm sitting here looking at this

754
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,960
scene now where she's rolling up
the band aids and she starts

755
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,840
packing a bag and Roger's
looking at her like, Claire, she

756
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,320
was like, don't you fucking try
to stop me.

757
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,360
I was like.
Oh.

758
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,400
Here we go.
Here we go.

759
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,800
Like.
You not made a bulletproof, you

760
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,160
know.
She's not.

761
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,640
You know, been shot before.
Ma'am Right, right.

762
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,920
And I don't know if that blue
light will will work on you

763
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,480
right I.
Don't know if you.

764
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,360
Can do that.
I don't know if you can self

765
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:40,720
heal, but I mean in the end I
guess, I guess it worked out.

766
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,200
And.
Then they get shot and and got

767
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,320
shot in the heart too.
That's the thing.

768
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,520
Or or close enough to it, but I
was.

769
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Just like that was perfect.
I, I I.

770
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,320
Felt some kind of way about that
gunshot.

771
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,920
I was like, oh y'all gave us a
Matthew Crawley in Downton Abbey

772
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,840
type death.
Like we want y'all to know this

773
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:09,680
dude is dead.
That's how I felt like that hurt

774
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,760
me to my heart.
I was like oh wait it wasn't

775
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:18,120
even A to the show.
No y'all made sure that we knew.

776
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,200
OK no this dude is dead.
How was she going?

777
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,480
To have to bring him back from
the dead, it ain't going to be

778
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,760
no oh, I can fix this.
I can sew you back up right.

779
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,000
And she had to use her power.
She had to.

780
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,920
She had to.
And it was close range.

781
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Yeah, but I mean, also, like I
said it, it would have been OK

782
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,640
if if they had died there
together because I don't think

783
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,880
she of course, I don't think
Claire really like we pay

784
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,480
attention to the whole thing
that like out of the way he told

785
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,760
her long time ago because we're
looking for those signs.

786
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,040
I think Claire has probably like
forgotten about that for so long

787
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,000
up until she saved the baby.
But again, that baby was only a

788
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,720
few minutes dead, so she
probably is like, I can't heal

789
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:12,240
this man overnight.
Like, I'm sitting here, I'm

790
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:13,360
holding him.
I'm.

791
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,840
And I think she was even
thinking about it too.

792
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Yeah.
So she's like, OK, you know

793
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,800
what?
I just OK, I guess I'm just

794
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,320
going to lay down here and die
with him.

795
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,040
I didn't said all my goodbyes to
my to my folks.

796
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,120
Fanny's going to be taken care
of.

797
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,360
Which I felt really bad for that
baby because she was like you

798
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,120
promised.
Y'all told me y'all wasn't going

799
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,080
to leave me and I wasn't going
to be alone and here y'all go

800
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,760
leaving again and I feel so bad
for her.

801
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,360
But I mean.
She was a blot device.

802
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,080
They do take her in, they do
take care of her, but she is not

803
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,120
related to them and they don't
make any any suggestions that

804
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,800
she is because in the books fan,
you know, Faith did not live.

805
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:11,120
But OK, however that goes it,
it, it I guess it's working out.

806
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,600
You know, they wake up on the
thing.

807
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,080
I know Brianna's going to look
at her Mama like we need to go,

808
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,560
we need to go make you some some
hair dye something because what

809
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,440
is this look?
What is this all white look?

810
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,560
But.
Yeah, yeah, like that.

811
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,080
So witchy.
I was like, I guess it's good we

812
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,840
don't know exactly what's
happening because I know they're

813
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,000
trying to hang her right by now.
Girl, who you?

814
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Telling.
Or no, ain't nobody messing with

815
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,640
her, you know.
After that.

816
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,080
That too, Yeah, yeah, 'cause if
I can bring somebody back from

817
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,320
the dead, I wish you would come
try to try to bomb my house or

818
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,160
try to set fire to my house or
try to do come, come try your

819
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,960
luck.
I'll just say it.

820
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,760
Do we know if Cleveland died or
not?

821
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,800
Because I don't recall seeing
him at the end.

822
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,040
And I was like, I really hope he
died.

823
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,720
They could they show?
I can't remember if he was.

824
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:14,480
Went like when Jamie dropped and
everybody was kind of surprised

825
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,280
and everybody OK, they got me
with the getting on their knees

826
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,000
to pay to pay tribute.
I was like, y'all, I, I can't, I

827
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,000
can't, I can't do this, I can't
do this.

828
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,840
Like y'all cannot kill this man.
Even though I was OK with it, I

829
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,960
was still like, but I don't
recall seeing Cleveland.

830
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,520
Yeah, I don't either.
To be fair, they did kind of

831
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:45,000
focus on Buck, they focus on Ian
and.

832
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,160
Yeah, they did.
I don't.

833
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,440
Because everybody came in and
got a shot and a stab.

834
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,160
Oh yeah, I was like.
All right.

835
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Yeah, one of the twins.
But look, one of the twins, I

836
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:03,200
think that was Josiah.
He just saved Jamie by throwing

837
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,160
an axe at someone.
Yeah.

838
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,680
And like, like I said, Hiram
Crombie, he's really the only

839
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,720
one that I'd like really
recognize from that group that,

840
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,720
you know, kind of went across
the line with Cunningham and

841
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:20,600
stuff.
But I was just like, OK, yeah,

842
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,040
you know what you need?
If if they're showing you so

843
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,600
much, they keep showing us you,
you, you're going to die.

844
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,960
You're going to die.
You're not going to die is

845
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,520
you're going to get your come up
is and it's going to be great.

846
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:38,160
And yeah, but what else?
I'm I am glad that we did get

847
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,800
one last love scene with Jamie
and Claire.

848
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,600
It's very sweet.
Oh, and we have a couple of new

849
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,360
listeners that have been
following us from like threads

850
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,960
and YouTube and and Tumblr.
I think I restarted my Tumblr

851
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,600
account like 2 weeks.
We got a couple.

852
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,120
So hello to the new people.
I got an e-mail from one of

853
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:07,400
them, Courtney, last week, and
she was saying that because I

854
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,320
was saying I couldn't remember,
I thought Claire and Jamie were

855
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,240
kind of like in their 70s or
near their 70s.

856
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,600
And she reminded me that this
battle was taking place in 1780.

857
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,160
I was, for some reason thinking
1790.

858
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:27,760
So in this particular episode,
Claire is 64 and Jamie is 59.

859
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,880
OK.
Yeah.

860
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:35,520
So still still young, very young
to be dying.

861
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,520
And yeah.
So I love the fact that we did

862
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,560
get one last one last scene with
them.

863
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,320
But also, I think, I think we
discussed this a few weeks ago,

864
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,200
but I was also, I couldn't, I
couldn't just look at the scene

865
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,840
because I almost felt like.
Fast forwarded.

866
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,680
I I felt like I was looking,
looking at my parents.

867
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,080
At this point, I'm like, no,
I've been, I've literally

868
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,200
watched them from being babies
to being old people.

869
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,120
It felt, it felt disrespectful.
I was like, I was like, I can't

870
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,040
do it.
But it was a beautiful scene.

871
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,600
But I was just like, no.
I was just like, you know, OK, I

872
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,480
know this is like the last who
were I got up in the tent.

873
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,200
Yeah, and I'm like the other men
didn't bring their wives.

874
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,920
A girlfriend chasing Jamie at
every battle.

875
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,840
Or side pieces.
Jamie is like, look, if I'm

876
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,920
going to die, I'm going to at
least get me some good loving to

877
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,520
to take that feeling on into the
afterlife, I guess.

878
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,040
Yeah, me too.
That's distracting.

879
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,240
Stop idiots so you can fight you
using up all your energy dude.

880
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:47,800
Because and then first of all,
in the tents, you loud.

881
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,240
So we we know what's going on.
They wouldn't.

882
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,160
They wouldn't.
Oh, Speaking of the devil or

883
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,000
Fast forward again.
It's crazy how I used to be so

884
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,120
into this and now I'm like.
It just, it feels, it feels very

885
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,720
voyeuristic now.
Yeah.

886
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:08,560
So I Fast forward.
You know I also.

887
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,440
Think after the thing, after how
he took, how he treated her,

888
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,240
after Lord John also still
leaves a bad taste in my mouth

889
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:20,960
when he basically was like you a
whore and you like sex, so you

890
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,240
probably really loved it.
And it just that kind of

891
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:25,560
bothered me that he did that.
And so I think that's another

892
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,840
reason why I just don't even
care to see them together.

893
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,520
OK.
Yeah, that's that's still I was

894
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,800
like, no, you ain't slut shame
of her, but you like it nasty.

895
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,320
Yeah, I mean, it's been 2 years,
Jamie, you need to get over a

896
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:49,560
lot of stuff, but OK.
But yeah, I'm, I'm sitting here

897
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:55,240
looking at you drop dude off.
Nobody's checking him for

898
00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:58,800
weapons.
Nope, it just it.

899
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,320
It doesn't.
And why he ain't tie up period?

900
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,920
If you ain't going to kill him,
why is he just loose?

901
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:12,360
Right feet and hands, your hands
are loose enough to get and and

902
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:20,040
the other thing is at least
Jamie and Buck because again, I

903
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,080
can't remember if Cleveland was
there.

904
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,440
Y'all have military backgrounds
right?

905
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,800
While you're sitting here
talking shit to this man on the

906
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,360
ground and you see him doing all
this fumbling.

907
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,040
Why didn't nobody say hold up
stop him?

908
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:38,720
Wouldn't what is he doing with
this?

909
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,360
He have where y'all just so.
And I get it.

910
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,840
Jamie probably was just so happy
about the fact that he didn't

911
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,040
die in battle.
And if you think about it,

912
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:52,640
Frank's book didn't say he died
in battle.

913
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:58,040
It said he died on Kings
Mountain in this thing, you know

914
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,360
what I'm saying?
So it's like you shouldn't have,

915
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,840
you shouldn't have relaxed until
no ass off the mountain.

916
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,440
Yeah, till you were back home.
Right.

917
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,120
You should not have relaxed, but
they were definitely

918
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,440
celebrating.
And but yeah, it doesn't look

919
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,280
like Cleveland's around.
Yeah.

920
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,240
And then also even even with
Ferguson and with Ferguson's

921
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:28,040
other men.
Yeah, I was sitting there.

922
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,520
Y'all, y'all are like standing
around.

923
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,760
But nobody has guns trained on
him like Jamie.

924
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,560
Yeah, he went over there with
the sword, but you can't take a

925
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,920
knife to a gunfight.
Yeah, nobody's sitting there

926
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,000
guarding any of these people.
They just standing around

927
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,760
shooting their guns,
celebrating.

928
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,800
And what?
They are none of them looking.

929
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,080
Yeah.
Who?

930
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,600
Are they looking at while Jamie
was talking?

931
00:52:57,720 --> 00:52:59,360
Yeah.
Nobody was looking.

932
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,800
None of none of them are are
tied up.

933
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,800
And also I realized this is slow
MO that, you know, Jamie's

934
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,880
falling on the ground.
Y'all should have been rushing

935
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,760
to him the moment the moment you
heard the gunshot.

936
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,800
Yeah, somebody should have been
over there.

937
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,480
The fact that Ian was still
standing there, like, that's the

938
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,560
I think that's the part that
bothers me because, you know,

939
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,520
yeah, now all y'all want to come
and y'all want to shoot this guy

940
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,840
567 times and then blood in him
to death.

941
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,040
But the damage has already been
done and Jason has been on the

942
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,280
ground.
Nobody has nobody has come to

943
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,320
his aid while he's on the
ground.

944
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,240
Like y'all just sitting there,
Ian is just sitting there

945
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:50,600
standing like dude, you've
actually seen this man get shot

946
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,440
before and and been there and
like why are y'all just standing

947
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,200
there?
I think that's probably what

948
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:04,320
really made me upset as far as
as far as his death scene

949
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,640
because nobody else was really
trying to help him except for

950
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,480
Claire I.
Just feel like I guess in some

951
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,680
ways it just, I feel like a lot
of it was shock and then anger

952
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,480
and all these different things.
But like, it does, it did seem

953
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,360
weird to me that even once they
did murder him, they just stood

954
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,920
there and she had to like come
across empty space because like,

955
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,000
nobody was there.
Yeah, it's like, and and again,

956
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,840
I I get it, the shock and stuff,
but this ain't the first time

957
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,480
that y'all been in a situation
like this, especially for Ian

958
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,360
and would have ran his ass over
there.

959
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,880
You know who would have ran over
there?

960
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,360
Fergus?
I'm just saying.

961
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,440
Oh Lord.
Fergus would have been the first

962
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:58,120
one over there.
Yeah, this, this is like, that's

963
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,760
why you can't, man.
He learn from Oberyn and Game of

964
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,320
Thrones.
You cannot be monologuing, you

965
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,160
got.
No, that was a.

966
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,400
That was a rookie mistake, Jamie
Rookie.

967
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,680
Mistake.
Yeah, that that really was a oh,

968
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,200
I didn't die in this battle.
I'm I'm I'm ecstatic.

969
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,960
And this is that that is
counting your chickens before

970
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,000
they hatch.
You know, that is that is

971
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,880
celebrating before you cross the
finish line.

972
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,120
You know it.
Yeah.

973
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,600
Just it it didn't make sense.
None of that made sense to me

974
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:42,720
that y'all, y'all let this man
have a gun, Y'all weren't really

975
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,960
guarding them properly.
And then when he gets shot,

976
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,880
y'all just standing there
looking at disbelief like, Oh my

977
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,520
God, he got shot.
Yeah.

978
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,080
I didn't know how serious it was
young.

979
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,040
Somebody could have been over
there putting some pressure on

980
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,160
waiting.
You know, somebody could have

981
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,560
been like, go get Claire, get
Claire, right.

982
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,480
Yeah.
I mean, she was literally just

983
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,320
right there.
So I think that's the those are,

984
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,480
like I said, I only had minor
gripes with the episode, but the

985
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,240
rest of it, I think they did a
really beautiful job with ending

986
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:18,760
the series.
They did.

987
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:26,200
You know, they it it just
whenever you're ending something

988
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,400
this epic and also when you have
a built in fan base because of

989
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,080
the books, you're not going to
please everybody, right?

990
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,640
But I think they really did take
time and care with the story and

991
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,480
with the with the characters,
except for Fergus.

992
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,040
And you know, I, I think they
brought it to a really good

993
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,120
conclusion.
Then, you know, like we said at

994
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:54,520
the end, Claire is just like
Claire does not, I don't even

995
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,160
know if this is her not
believing that he's dead or

996
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,280
she's just in denial when she's
like, no, he just needs to rest.

997
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,280
He just needs to rest.
I mean, literally when you come

998
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,080
walking back with Jamie and
they're like, what the hell

999
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,640
happened?
She said I told y'all he just

1000
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,440
needed to rest.
Needed to rest.

1001
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,160
He was bad.
Yeah.

1002
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:18,160
She she was devastated for it.
For all the shows that we have

1003
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,920
watched the endings to like this
is in the top.

1004
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,360
To be a completely honest, I
feel like it should be

1005
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:32,880
satisfying to both regular show
watchers and book readers.

1006
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,720
Well, especially for book
readers, because it didn't.

1007
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:40,080
It doesn't end, so it leaves it
again open in the books to to

1008
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,480
carry on.
And then we as the TV watchers

1009
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,680
are going to have to read the
book, or at least after this

1010
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,280
part to find out what happens to
them.

1011
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,760
Yep.
Time to get on that read.

1012
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,000
OK, it could be I read the next
book.

1013
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,680
Look, see, I'm good for skipping
them.

1014
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,320
Read the next book to come out,
'cause then I can move forward.

1015
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,800
But they really did 'cause I,
I'm like sitting here thinking

1016
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:08,480
all the shows that I absolutely
loved in the last show.

1017
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,240
My gosh, I don't even know what
happened.

1018
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,320
I can tell you the worst and
this is closer to the best.

1019
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,840
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
And then we get the cute little

1020
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,520
we get the cute little post
credits scene.

1021
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,680
Which which I said.
Yeah.

1022
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,760
And and that's another thing
that some people are confused

1023
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,000
about because they're like, I
didn't understand the post

1024
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,360
credit scene.
So basically what it is, is just

1025
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:42,080
like going to a Diana Gabaldin
book signing with the Outlander.

1026
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,040
And that was actually the
original, well, not the original

1027
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:51,280
original, but that was the first
Outlander cover that they did.

1028
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,440
And I actually have a copy.
Of one.

1029
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,160
Because I definitely said what
if they do a little cute little

1030
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,120
thing I have?
A copy of it found this in a

1031
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:05,560
thrift store.
So it's cute because you have

1032
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,360
Diana sitting there signing
books.

1033
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,080
She's talking to somebody.
And the cute thing about that

1034
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,440
scene is the people who were
standing in line were all crew

1035
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,320
members from the show and the
books on the shelf.

1036
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,280
Those particular crew members,
they came up with the their own

1037
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,760
book titles based on the type of
job that they did on the show.

1038
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:31,800
So I thought that was really
cute.

1039
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,600
But what people didn't
understand was when the person

1040
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:39,120
was asking Diana about the, the,
the little journal over on the

1041
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,840
side and she was like, oh, it's
just a little inspiration.

1042
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,920
Somebody was like, I don't
understand what that means.

1043
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,440
I'm like, y'all skipped over
that part where he was taking

1044
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,080
her journal in the last episode
and she said she was writing

1045
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,840
their stories.
So the way I took it is like,

1046
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:01,120
you know, Diana Gabaldon, the
author, found this journal and

1047
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,400
she used.
That desperation for Claire's

1048
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,320
story, yes.
Yeah, so Claire, Claire and

1049
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:13,160
Jamie's story got told.
And yes, we're we're assuming

1050
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,480
that they're living happily ever
after on the Ridge because

1051
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,200
probably after this point,
Claire was like, you can't fight

1052
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,800
and nothing else.
But then when they really,

1053
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,760
really die again, I need to be
in another notebook again.

1054
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,760
What I mean, when they die of
old age, they're going to be in

1055
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,880
their rocking chair holding
hands.

1056
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:38,360
Yeah, it's time, Yeah.
When they older, older, yes, in

1057
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,040
the 90s at the rocking chair and
all the kids and grandkids are

1058
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,360
playing in the yard.
Yeah, 'cause.

1059
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,640
The next war is like the word
1812.

1060
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,200
Probably so like, I need jobs
tonight.

1061
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,640
Yeah, Jamie is in retirement at
that point, you don't need to do

1062
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,800
nothing else.
He will be what, in 1812?

1063
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,720
He'll be, what, 5969, almost 80
years old.

1064
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,040
He he don't need to be doing
that.

1065
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,400
He don't need to be fighting at
59.

1066
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,080
But this is Jamie.
I mean, he's still a he's still

1067
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,680
a man in very good shape.
He's still very Yeah, so.

1068
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:22,000
But good lucky, Yeah, I, I
actually, I, I really enjoyed

1069
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,800
the way that they ended this
very much.

1070
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,160
So.
I think it was very beautiful.

1071
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:33,480
I love the the throwback, seeing
Jamie in the square as a ghost,

1072
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:38,000
seeing Frank come up to him.
I I just enjoyed it.

1073
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,560
And I will say this too, I
didn't cry as much as I thought

1074
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,760
I would watching this episode
because I don't know, it's like

1075
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,920
most of what happened in this
episode because it happened in

1076
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,720
bees already.
I knew what was going to happen.

1077
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,720
I knew he wasn't going to die,
die.

1078
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:59,440
So I think I was just able to
watch it and just enjoy it and

1079
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:06,800
and appreciate it without being
overly devastated about it.

1080
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,440
Because we do still have the
books.

1081
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,680
If we still want to continue the
story.

1082
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,240
We do still have Blood of My
Blood, which no, it's not Jamie

1083
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,560
and Claire's story, but it's the
it's the prequel to their story.

1084
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,040
So we do still get some
Outlander stuff.

1085
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:27,000
And this, now that the story is
over, now that the show is over,

1086
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:32,840
I can go back and reread the
books and not try to keep track

1087
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,480
of what happened here, what
happened there, Because that was

1088
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,640
kind of hard for me to do,
especially with the last two

1089
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,080
books because they did take some
things and kind of twisted

1090
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,800
around a little bit.
I was like, OK, I might not be

1091
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,160
getting my facts right.
So yes, I am looking forward to

1092
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,840
going back and doing a full
reread and just kind of enjoying

1093
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,280
the story.
And hopefully we'll get some

1094
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,040
more Book 10 news at some point.
And what is her goal?

1095
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,000
To have that done.
I don't know.

1096
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,120
I think right now her it's, it's
at.

1097
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,040
I think she may still be writing
it.

1098
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:12,560
But I mean, we do have a title.
We have gotten some snippets.

1099
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,200
What's the title?
What's the title?

1100
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,160
A blessing for a warrior going
out.

1101
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:27,960
Yeah, Yeah.
Well, lesson for a warrior going

1102
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,200
out.
I was like, so you're basically

1103
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,080
telling us that he's going to
die?

1104
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:39,400
In things which you know.
Is this the last book?

1105
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:46,080
Yes, Yeah, yeah.
This is book 10, supposedly.

1106
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,240
Now she's always said book 10.
I think I saw one interview

1107
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,280
somewhere where she said it may
be, it may not be the last book,

1108
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,800
but I think it, I mean, I think
it's the last.

1109
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,320
It's the last book.
I would assume she doesn't want

1110
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:04,000
to spend like the rest of her
life just writing these books,

1111
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,520
especially since they take so
long to write and, you know.

1112
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,960
Yeah.
With history, she has to like

1113
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,720
incorporate and which is always
been very fascinating about her

1114
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:20,280
writing is the the history she
has definitely had to like

1115
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,000
really learn some stuff.
Yeah.

1116
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,200
Yeah, so but.
I love these old seeds.

1117
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,280
I know I'm looking at them now
too.

1118
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,960
I'm just like, they were such
babies.

1119
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,640
Babies.
And I went to her.

1120
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,960
I'm on her website trying to see
you to.

1121
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,240
Take your hands off my wife.
I was.

1122
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,520
Yes, get to that seat.
Sorry, I don't know when I will

1123
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,280
finish book 10, much less when
it will be published.

1124
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,600
I am limiting travel in 2026 to
work on it.

1125
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,400
Yeah, it takes a while to write
a 800 page novel.

1126
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,640
No one told you to do that.
Cut it down to four.

1127
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:01,920
Give me the book at one Part 2
if.

1128
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:07,120
You if you've read the books.
I know, I'm just joking with

1129
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,440
her, she can break it down a
little bit.

1130
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,880
I also do all the historical and
other background research that

1131
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,280
is required.
Yeah.

1132
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,720
If you are if you are curious
about my writing process, please

1133
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,480
see these links below.
Oh yeah, she like her

1134
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,360
manuscripts when she turns them
into her publisher.

1135
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,880
Her manuscripts are like this.
Like literally you have to.

1136
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:35,000
Pare it down and edit.
And which that's a job I would

1137
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,240
not want because Anne Rice used
to be real particular about not

1138
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:40,640
letting people really edit her
work.

1139
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,600
And I'm like my sister, my
sister.

1140
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,760
I need you to stop mentioning
them Booga Villas.

1141
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,880
Nobody cared about the flowers.
You talk about them every page.

1142
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,120
Somebody should have edited
this.

1143
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,520
Don't.
Have to be there about to wake

1144
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,160
up.
I know, look how white her hair

1145
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,000
is.
So crazy.

1146
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:06,680
It was perfect timing.
Yeah, 'cause I mean, it's, it's

1147
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:11,840
almost like somebody was there
and they were like, OK, open

1148
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:17,360
your eyes and they open the eyes
and they both, yeah, it was, I'm

1149
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,920
so glad.
I mean, it was, it was great,

1150
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:25,480
but it's over now.
I can't believe it though.

1151
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,600
I can't believe it.
I remember, 'cause I, I just

1152
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,400
remember I 'cause like you,
Michelle, it was Hanukkah

1153
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,240
pulling us in, pulling us all
in.

1154
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,760
It wasn't that you love the
finale, I don't think.

1155
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,600
I think I was probably a little
before that, but it was

1156
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,400
definitely 'cause Season 2.
So Mars was season 2.

1157
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:49,400
It was about the finale right
before it because they did a

1158
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,640
they did a marathon of all of
season 1 and all of season 2

1159
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,160
leading up to the season 2
finale.

1160
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:02,880
So I literally got done with
season 2 just in time to start a

1161
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,240
live watch of the season 2
finale.

1162
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,800
OK, so maybe it was the season
2.

1163
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,400
I just know it was you it.
Was your fault?

1164
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,440
Yeah, Yeah, it was.
I wanted to watch.

1165
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,600
It and then I didn't have stars
and I'm like, I'm not paying for

1166
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,680
stars.
But then it was like, OK, maybe

1167
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,160
I should pay for stuff.
Yeah, and I was having to watch

1168
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,040
it on I.
Was cleaning up and I saw I said

1169
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,880
oh they got a marathon going on
OK and and it's about to start.

1170
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,400
I was like, OK, I guess I can
watch a couple of episodes while

1171
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:38,120
I'm cleaning up and, and 8-9
hours later cleaning up is not

1172
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,840
even thought of.
I, I finally went to sleep like

1173
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,680
4 O clock in the morning.
I got up the next morning about

1174
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:49,400
9 immediately started watching
finished out season 1 eight

1175
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,440
watch season 2.
And it's so funny because my

1176
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,200
younger daughter at the time,
she wasn't watching it with me,

1177
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,960
but she was coming downstairs,
you know, to, to come get food

1178
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,280
or to come whatever, whatever.
So she would see an episode and

1179
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,840
she would just kind of stand
there and look for a few minutes

1180
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:12,000
and then she'd go.
And then I think she came

1181
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,720
downstairs during the pressing
pans battle and then during

1182
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,359
something else.
And then when they started the

1183
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:22,439
colliding episode, she literally
she came downstairs, she sat

1184
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,840
down with me.
And then she watched the finale,

1185
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,240
the Season 2 finale with me.
And then after it was over, she

1186
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,120
looked at me.
She said, you know you, you

1187
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,880
know, we got to start from the
beginning, right?

1188
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,359
Yep.
Let's go ahead.

1189
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:37,560
So that was that was the
beginning of my addiction.

1190
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,479
But yeah, it's it's been a
really fun ride.

1191
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:47,240
I definitely, definitely agree.
I got really like the thing that

1192
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,680
kind of got me because at first
I was like, Oh my God, these

1193
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,160
freaking Scottish men, what are
they doing?

1194
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,080
It's so being.
But the thing that got me was

1195
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,479
like Frank's ancestor looking
just like Frank but being like

1196
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,720
this totally different person.
And I was like, oh, oh, this is

1197
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,640
interesting.
Like what's happening here.

1198
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,760
And then, yeah, it just from
there, I was just like, OK,

1199
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,840
because I was so bad about how
they were treating her when they

1200
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,600
first caught up to her.
And I was just like, yeah, but

1201
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,040
you know what?
I'm gonna say this about I'm

1202
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,240
gonna say this about Episode 1,
Claire, when you find yourself

1203
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:27,960
in a strange place found strange
minutes see through shift and

1204
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,880
and they're trying and and and
you kind of peep that something

1205
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,640
ain't right.
I'm a need you to stop running

1206
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,600
off at the mouth.
I'm a need to speak.

1207
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,160
Just.
Pay attention to what's going

1208
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,439
on.
You lucky, you ready to the

1209
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,479
right one.
You get what I'm saying?

1210
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,359
Just hide like don't yeah, go
running off trying to find folks

1211
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:48,720
just.
Hire cause guess what?

1212
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,600
Your Mama didn't run into the
right one.

1213
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,440
But I mean, she didn't either.
I mean, think about it.

1214
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:56,800
She ran into Blackjack first and
just yeah.

1215
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,800
Right, it was.
The But then the second group,

1216
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:02,920
she got lucky.
Yeah, her Mama was kidnapping.

1217
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:03,880
Sold.
Yeah.

1218
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,040
Yeah.
That was wow.

1219
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:10,320
I mean, she was just kidnapped
and and taken to the, you know,

1220
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,800
taking to they said I am married
and they.

1221
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,920
Were like, we don't.
Care.

1222
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:21,520
We owe this man money.
But it it's, it's been a, it's

1223
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,880
been a great ride.
I am going to miss the show.

1224
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,880
I guess at some point I will
probably do a rewatch from the

1225
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,440
beginning.
But we still like, like I said,

1226
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:34,080
we still have the books, we
still have conventions.

1227
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:38,680
I got confirmation this morning
that I will be moderating the

1228
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,920
Outlander and blood of my blood
panels at Dragon Con this year.

1229
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,920
So that's fun.
And then also my big

1230
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,240
announcement, which I have been
holding on to for like 2 months

1231
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,840
now.
So the Outlander convention that

1232
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:56,440
I have been mentioning for the
last few months, lancon that's

1233
01:10:56,440 --> 01:11:00,360
taking place in October in
Texas, I have actually been

1234
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,640
invited to be one of the
featured guest moderators for

1235
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,800
that convention.
So I will be still immersing

1236
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:11,400
myself in Outlander goodness.
I am excited about that

1237
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,640
opportunity and I'm looking
forward to it.

1238
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:18,520
I was already going to the
convention as a fan anyway, so

1239
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:23,200
now being able to take part of
it, I'm so excited.

1240
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,640
I'm so excited.
But I will in the show notes, I

1241
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:31,360
will post some links for that
particular convention so you can

1242
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,200
just see who we have coming.
We have a great.

1243
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:39,280
Guest.
David Berry, Lord John Gray,

1244
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,240
we've got, we've got William
coming.

1245
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:46,920
We've got galas, we've got.
They just announced Tony Curran,

1246
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,360
who is Lord Lovett from Blood of
my blood.

1247
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,600
They just announced him a few
days ago.

1248
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:57,680
We've got Buck coming for a day.
It's it's going to be a great

1249
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,000
convention.
I'm looking forward to it.

1250
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:05,880
But yes, it'll it'll get me
through permanent drought

1251
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:10,560
Lander, I guess.
I know, I know.

1252
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,560
Like we don't have any more
countdowns for drought Lander.

1253
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:19,400
We don't have any I'm.
So coming.

1254
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,520
Next, but now I need to go and
watch all of these millions of

1255
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,720
interviews that they've been
doing because they did do

1256
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,560
something at the Paley Center
last week.

1257
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,760
I haven't had a chance to watch
that.

1258
01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:38,720
If you watch Josh Horwitz's
stuff and saw where a few years

1259
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:43,160
ago he did like a couples
therapy skit with Sam and

1260
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,640
Katrina, they just did a follow
up for that.

1261
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,640
So I need to go watch that.
So there's still plenty of

1262
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:54,960
Outlander stuff out there, but
the show is over.

1263
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,840
I'm sad.
Yeah.

1264
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,720
I'm glad that for the most part
everybody got their happy ending

1265
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,360
except for I mean, we even got
to see Marsley with her spinning

1266
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:10,920
wheel looking happy.
I was like, OK, I I feel happy.

1267
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,120
But yeah, I think Fergus got the
shaft on this one.

1268
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:19,680
I I'm gonna forever be mad about
that so y'all don't have to do

1269
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:25,200
my boy like that but.
The riders on site I see you on,

1270
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,480
it's gonna be on site for taking
my Fergus.

1271
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:36,600
Right, but do you guys have any
final thoughts about the final

1272
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,000
episode of Outlander?
That's going to hurt every time

1273
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,760
I say, 'cause I'm.
Just like, yeah, that's, that's

1274
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,120
like you just think, Oh, well,
it'll just be, you know, next

1275
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,240
next year or a year and a half,
but.

1276
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:54,080
This was it.
It's yeah.

1277
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,640
And it's so long to be be on a
show for so long.

1278
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,320
It's is, you know, back in the
day, they used to do soap operas

1279
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:01,880
and shows where they would just
be contracting.

1280
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,640
They would just be on the show
for all they like.

1281
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,360
You know, Erica, Erica Kane.
It's, you know.

1282
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,560
Victor Newman, but like.
They don't do this.

1283
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,360
Like there's not shows that just
do this a lot.

1284
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,120
Yeah, not at, not at prime time
TV, not.

1285
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:19,480
Like that, I mean, it's just.
It's very rare they they hit 101

1286
01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:20,880
episodes.
Yeah.

1287
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:22,560
So that's.
Which is great.

1288
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,600
Yeah, I think some stars would
like that, but they don't make

1289
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,760
it.
That's the thing, the show get

1290
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,960
cancelled.
Through the pandemic, right?

1291
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,120
Yeah, a lot of shows didn't.
Right, that's The thing is like

1292
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:38,600
they the I won't say like movie
stars be wanting these type of

1293
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,800
jobs, but the show don't last.
Yeah.

1294
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:45,160
And just snaps for their
attention to detail and just

1295
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,920
even if they didn't go exactly
like the books or have some of

1296
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,720
the storylines annoyed us, I
overall like this is one of the

1297
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,080
best shows they've like this is.
They did they.

1298
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,200
Did a great job with the show
like.

1299
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,000
And people staying on the show
too, because you know how you'll

1300
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,520
get with actors.
But I don't want to play it

1301
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,080
anymore and we got to get used.
To.

1302
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,480
Yeah.
Who do we lose?

1303
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:13,040
Just basically Jenny changed.
Obviously Fergus had to change

1304
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:18,160
'cause he grew up, but for the
most part it was just the same

1305
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,400
folks, you know?
Yeah, for the most part.

1306
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:27,880
So.
So now we got to wait until

1307
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:32,200
August for blood of my blood So.
Which is not not long.

1308
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,840
I'm you know what?
I ain't mad at it.

1309
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,480
It's not long.
I know.

1310
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,000
But you know, also Outlander has
been taking up a lot of our

1311
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:44,360
podcast face over the last year.
So, you know, we we do talk

1312
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,080
about other shows.
I think we're going to get

1313
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,520
around to talking to some of the
about some of these.

1314
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,080
Other shows but to get me to get
me to continue reading this book

1315
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,960
we may have to podcast by the
book listen you.

1316
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,680
Can say nothing but a word.
You ain't said nothing but a

1317
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,640
word.
Because we got we have the

1318
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,760
regular books, we have the Lord
John books, we have the

1319
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:04,520
novellas.
Good.

1320
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,960
Look.
No, let me say that.

1321
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,040
Let me finish my Shadowhunter
read first.

1322
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,360
OK?
All of the Shadowhunter books.

1323
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,400
I'm actually.
Almost done with.

1324
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:18,160
Those I think I have.
I have one more book and two

1325
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,400
more novellas to read and then
I'm done with that.

1326
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,920
So anytime after that girl, I'm
gay, let's do this.

1327
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:29,800
We can do this would be great.
So and you we even put the book

1328
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,560
in half.
You mean like, OK, we got the

1329
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,880
half.
The book and then the other

1330
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,440
half.
Yeah, let's break this book up.

1331
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,760
Yeah.
I I've.

1332
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,720
Seen shows where they.
Look up over here, like grab the

1333
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:41,920
book.
How many pages?

1334
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,200
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it's a lot, but

1335
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,000
yeah, we'll.
Figure that out.

1336
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:50,080
But yeah, we can, we can keep
some Outlander content going

1337
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,920
and, you know, we can always do
a rewatch 'cause, I mean, we

1338
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,000
didn't even start covering the
show on this podcast until

1339
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:01,800
season 6.
So, you know, man, it's been

1340
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:02,960
that long.
I mean, what is?

1341
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,480
Yeah.
Or was it Season 5 let.

1342
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:07,840
Me.
See, man, I don't know.

1343
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,280
I think it was season.
It was season 5 or season 6.

1344
01:17:11,480 --> 01:17:13,000
OK, We started.
Yeah.

1345
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:17,280
Was it the season before Malva?
Yes.

1346
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,400
Yeah, so that's 'cause I thought
I was.

1347
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,040
Gonna have a heart.
Attack with her.

1348
01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:26,440
And her daddy let me tell you
them episodes with child talking

1349
01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:30,600
about Malva child.
They used to have me in my car

1350
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,960
yelling at the girl.
Oh my God.

1351
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,160
And it's worse.
Than a book.

1352
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,960
So yeah, I was like, if I could
come through that screen.

1353
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,920
First of all, I just want her
daddy just get on the horse and

1354
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,240
die.
And then after I was like, well

1355
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,040
shit, your daughter ain't much
better.

1356
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,000
Gosh, we could listen.
We could have had a drinking

1357
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,920
game with.
Michelle talking about Tom

1358
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,640
Christie needing to get on a
horse and die and die.

1359
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,360
That used to have me laughing.
So hard.

1360
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,000
Oh God.
So yeah, maybe we'll do some.

1361
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:10,360
Revisits and we will do some
book discussions, but I guess we

1362
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,520
got to figure out something.
Else to.

1363
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,640
Talk about to have you ladies on
because I think I'm about to

1364
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,720
start pulling the guys.
I know people are like, OK, are

1365
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,880
the guys even still on the show?
Yes, they are.

1366
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,200
Everybody's just everybody's
schedules have been kind of

1367
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:28,640
crazy.
I think we are going to go ahead

1368
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,720
and finish covering the Boys
season, Season 5, because we

1369
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:37,200
kind of stopped midway through
season 4 because it just got to

1370
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,560
be a lot and we just never
picked it back up.

1371
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:44,120
But we do have a final season of
The Boys and I really would like

1372
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,680
to finish covering that one
because that was the first show

1373
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,800
that we actually started
covering when when the podcast

1374
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,400
started.
Our first episode was The Boys

1375
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,920
season 2 episode 1.
So I kind of want to finish that

1376
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,880
out.
And then Michelle, Casey and I

1377
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,360
are about to get back in our
Walking Dead thing.

1378
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:08,160
We've got Walking Dead Dead City
coming up in July, the third

1379
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,440
season.
We still need to talk about

1380
01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:13,120
Daryl Dixon season 3.
So we got some other stuff we

1381
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,160
need to we need to talk about
and we'll get Dina on, which I

1382
01:19:16,440 --> 01:19:20,040
have not watched.
I know I I haven't even.

1383
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,920
Because I watch it for us to
record, so I'm like, I don't

1384
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:23,840
even know.
What's going?

1385
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,920
I don't know.
That's OK, We'll we'll get it

1386
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,120
done.
But luckily I haven't seen any

1387
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,520
spoilers.
But I saw a spoiler for this,

1388
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,320
but not really a spoiler.
I just.

1389
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,280
Saw them laying on the rock and
I said oh Lord, somebody's dead.

1390
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:40,640
And then I swipe real quick.
Oh yeah, because people that

1391
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,040
that's the reason why I.
Stayed up Friday night and I

1392
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,040
watched it because I said I know
the moment I get online on

1393
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,760
Saturday, I mean on Friday
morning, it's going to be over.

1394
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:56,800
And literally this episode, the
episode before it and the

1395
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:01,640
episode where Fergus died, I
found out through Google, the

1396
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,840
Google homepage, because I'm at
work looking up something else.

1397
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:11,040
And it was one of the like
trending stories or tops top

1398
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,360
stories.
And I was like, really like, it

1399
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,040
ain't even been out eight hours
y'all, Y'all can't give people

1400
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,640
time to to watch it.
But that's the I think at this

1401
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,560
point that's becoming a an
argument that's just not going

1402
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:29,600
to get one because people.
Have to, you know, they feel

1403
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,800
like they have to be the first
to talk about it.

1404
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,600
They have to be the first to
post their reactions in the post

1405
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,200
spoilers and stuff.
But it's another reason why I

1406
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:42,360
stay off most social media when
I'm ready to watch something or

1407
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,360
when I haven't had a chance to
watch something or I just go on

1408
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:49,440
threads because threads has this
wonderful little feature where

1409
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:54,520
you can actually Gray out your
spoilers in your post.

1410
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,680
And if anybody wants to see what
that what it is, they just click

1411
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,920
on it and it reveals itself.
So yeah, that's why I like

1412
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,440
threads so much.
But anyway, that's getting off

1413
01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:08,760
topic.
So OK, no more Outlander

1414
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:12,600
episodes.
We'll probably try to do, like I

1415
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,920
said, we'll probably try to do
some book discussions once we

1416
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,440
can all kind of sit down and
settle and and read some books.

1417
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,320
I will probably try to do that
this summer before Dragon Con

1418
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,840
and LAN Con.
And again, I will post the

1419
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,320
information for LAN Con on the
show notes.

1420
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:35,720
But before we close off, I do
want to say thank you to stars.

1421
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,920
Thank you to the actors, thank
you to the showrunners, thank

1422
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,920
you to the cast crew.
Ben Mccrary for the wonderful

1423
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,960
soundtrack for all eight
seasons.

1424
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:51,120
Just the whole experience of
Outlander has been wonderful.

1425
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:55,680
It's been one of the best TV
watching experiences that I've

1426
01:21:55,680 --> 01:22:00,360
had from start to finish.
And I just, I don't know if

1427
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,800
there will be another show like
this.

1428
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,840
And I'm really glad we got to
see a live version of this

1429
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,000
story.
Just really, really glad.

1430
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:16,280
So I guess for Outlander, that's
it for our show.

1431
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,840
You can find us online at
www.phantomhybrid.com.

1432
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,760
We are on social media on all
the social media at Phantom

1433
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:25,920
Hybrid.
You can chat with us on our

1434
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,560
Discord channel.
You can watch our videos on our

1435
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,600
YouTube channel, and you can
listen to us on all major

1436
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,040
podcast streaming platforms.
Thanks for listening.

1437
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,560
We hope you join the
conversation next time.

1438
01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:05,680
Music.