Shadow and Bone S2E5 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #230

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of The Phantom hybrid podcast.
This is hanako and I am here

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with Anthony Lori and Mike and
we are discussing episode 5 of

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Shadow and Bone season 2.
Before we start talking about

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this episode, I want to talk
about something that I've been

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meaning to mention.
When we discuss the episodes and

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I've been forgetting the title
cards for this season, their

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fire, I love them, the art
Department.

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That is excellent job.
Excellent job.

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And I love this one because at
the beginning, you see, like

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four little crows sitting on the
on the sign that says, Shadow

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and Bone.
And you have one crow that flies

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in to sit with them and then in
the background in the window you

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have another Crow that's like
trapped and can't get out.

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I was like, oh look.
It's the crows and with Nina and

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then with Metolius, locked away.
And did you notice one of the

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crows was One of the Nash's
knives.

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No, I didn't notice any.
Yeah, the one on the very end.

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Yeah.
I love these title cards.

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Yeah, look all the
foreshadowing.

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Uh-huh, very much so.
But okay, let's get into this

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episode because there was a lot
that happened in this episode,

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we had some epic fighting, we
had some epic other things going

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on.
The start of the episode.

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When Carrie, again comes back to
the room, to see that bagra and

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jigna have escaped.
How the hell did all the damage,

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get done?
Because Jen you didn't do all of

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that.
There were like, the windows

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were messed up the shades had
holes in them.

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There were like, I know she did
some damage but I don't think

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she did all of that ditch.
What was that?

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Something I missed wildly.
She might have.

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I mean, he's just now finding
out.

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It seems like and because he was
probably gone for a minute, so

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she had time.
So it was she might have done

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it.
I guess that the do Vlad, Vlad,

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mm, I think is his name because
on the closed captions, it's

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spelled vla.
That do let me tell you, if you

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were to look up minion in the
dictionary, his picture will be

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next to it.
Like he's sitting there talking

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to care again.
You know, I thought it was

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important to call you back for
this blah blah blah.

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You know, even though we lost
most of our stuff, I had the

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foresight to look like he was
expecting, Kerrigan to

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congratulate him because he had
the foresight to keep the The

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two finger bones in a locket
around his neck and that he can

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continue his experiments.
He was like, I don't want to

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hear anything you have to say
right now.

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I'm going to my room to throw a
temper tantrum because my mama

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is gone.
And genya but Kerrigan in this

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episode you kind of see him run
the gamut of emotions like he

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is.
Angry and upset and he's kind of

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wistful and when Alina comes to
him and that Vision you see him

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kind of he's kind of hesitant
and kind of skeptical about her

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but then when she touches his
face, he's kind of like oh yes,

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this is what I want.
Like, maybe she's really, really

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coming around to my way of
thinking and don't let the

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smooth taste fool.
You Mommy.

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Kenya.
But I mean between him wladim

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and Rosie Rosie.
I think that's her name.

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I can't, I can't really
pronounce it.

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FR u s-- z II.
Think that's how you spell her

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name Angie?
The the tide maker.

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Yeah, that sounds right.
Let me tell you, there was one

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point in this episode where I
thought Kerrigan was about to

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light that ass up when he was in
his room and she came to tell

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him, you know, we can't find
Prince Nikolai.

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We can't find the sun Summoner.
He was like, will find them.

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And she was like, um, the, the
forceful way she was saying, is

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she was like, our efforts would
be better if We were to just

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take out the first arm like
she's telling this to him, like

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she's expecting him to be like,
oh you know what you are.

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So right, let me change that
order.

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And you guys go kill the first
Army first, the amount of

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restraint that he serve you
miserable.

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I'd only problem with that is
present Nikolai.

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His Caravan are with my son
Summoner, so at the risk of

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repeating myself.
I love it when people say they

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are at the risk of repeating
myself.

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Get the fuck out of here and
find her now, right?

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Let I'll care about nothing
else.

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You got to say that's just
that's almost.

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It's almost reminiscent of Zoya
in the first season when Elena

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had escaped and she was trying
to pull on her, I guess her

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little seductive thing to kind
of calm him down and she was

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like what do we really need her?
She probably left on her own you

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know, you used to call on me for
certain things and he was like

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I'll be okay.
Once I have my son Summoner it's

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Hollywood but that was kind of
reminiscent of that.

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Even though up to this point, we
have no indication.

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That Kerrigan has had any kind
of relationship with this girl,

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but still, I was just like I
started laughing when he turned

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around and he was like he has a
history in myself repeating

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myself.
Because like you said, and you

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can see it in his face, like his
eyes were kind of like bitch.

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I said what I said, Go find her.
But I don't know why, I don't

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know why.
People always try to test his

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patients.
He is already been if he would,

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you know.
Okay, I'm almost 50, sorry,

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Mike, I'm almost 50.
I know the older you get the

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list, the list patients.
Do you have right?

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I can only has a less patient.
You're exactly right.

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Yes.
I can only imagine how it is

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when you're you know, 400 years
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Because now everyone around you
is a child, right?

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Like Bill babies and they're
saying childish things, and

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they're doing childish, things
at the risk of repeating myself.

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I'm going to do that to Bailey,
Wednesday.

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See if he's home, it was like
Did you not hear what I said?

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No.
Don't see knowing Bailey, she

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probably like, where'd you get
that from if she's white shadow

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and bone with her parents?
You'll probably be like, Dad.

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You're not the darkling.
And you'll see you want to watch

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with this because she's already
predicted house.

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Sounds good.
Has she told you how she thinks?

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Season two is going to end.
I'll have to ask her okay

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because if she does I want to
discuss that sidebar and and see

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how accurate her predictions are
right there accurate we need to

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have her as a special guest.
Now I mean, it's just like

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Anthony said in the last episode
it has something to do with this

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younger.
Younger generation, like

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vacancy.
All the clues they can follow

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all the tropes.
And I think even with some of

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the stuff that may be
unexpected, they still do it

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because this is one reason why I
do not watch TV with my daughter

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Mia.
Like, she'll be in the episode

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of she'll be like, oh no, this
is what's going to happen.

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This is what this person sounds
like it.

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I don't like this.
There was something I was

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watching a few weeks ago.
I cannot do this business.

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She read a lot of why he lit.
She used to.

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She hasn't in a while.
Missy used to.

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Yes, that's right.
Bailey is really matter why he

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live.
Like we say the last episode

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that was true.
Oops just keep xeroxing

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themselves from hospital often.
Yeah.

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Now they do have some twists
with some things but yeah I

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think it was.
Oh okay so this is not why a but

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the last of us the episode with
the cannibals Like I said, she

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came downstairs, she heard us,
you know, she heard it on TV,

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she heard just a little bit of
what he was saying, Pastor David

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was saying right towards the
beginning of the episode and she

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was like, hold up there, man on
some BS.

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She's like he doesn't sound
right?

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He sounds like one of those
people that's like creepy,

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pedophile tights and dada da.
At that point, it wasn't even

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the hint of cannibalism but
still she was able to she was

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like, mmm just the way she was.
Like I only heard like five

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words that he said and I already
know he on some bullshit.

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Yep.
But ah, okay so aftermath of the

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attack.
So we do find out in the midst

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of the various things that we
see throughout the episode.

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The king is dead, which means
that Nikolai is now be the king

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will once the coronation
happens, but technically

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speaking, he is the king.
At this point.

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They have a lot of dead, they
have a lot of injured, a lot of

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wounded, including addressing,
Eric who they have to cut his

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arm off Toya has to take one of
her axes and cut that part of

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his arm off, in order to try to
save him.

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I was like that's a lot while
they're down there, Elena starts

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losing control of her power.
Again, one, she's already

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fretful because she still can't
find Mal.

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She still has no clue that he's
missing.

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She just knows that he's not
down there.

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I said, lot of day, a lot of
wounded.

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Nikolai is trying to send the
wounded to another.

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I think it's another town again,
I'm not going to try to butcher

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that.
I'm not going to butcher that

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name but he's trying to get her
to hold it together.

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And as they're sitting there
talking and trying to figure

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some stuff out, I thought one of
the new travois was coming down

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into that Cavern because when
that Darkness started creeping

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down there and Nikolai was like
get all the wounded out of here.

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I was like what are me like
y'all have so many wounded is

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only a few of y'all that are
able body for one of y'all gonna

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do and then back is like stupid,
girl, how long are you going to

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stand there before you?
Let us down the like, only back?

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Bad girl, only bagra.
Backwards their genius with her.

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And like I said, at the
beginning of this will actually,

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I said this before we started
recording, I forgot how intense

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this episode was and I also
forgot how emotional it was when

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Jenga and Alena reunited.
And all of Lena had to do was

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just look at genius.
She was she's just went over

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there to to hug her like All Is
Forgiven, I was sobbing I was

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like oh Yes.
Okay, the gang is back together

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again.
But janya, let me tell you, she

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had to deal with a whole bunch
of bullshit in this episode and

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I'm glad she stood up for her.
I'm glad Alina stood up for her.

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I'm glad Nikolai stood up for
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I'm glad well not at first,
though.

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Michael.
I was like, yeah.

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But I mean you heard of a good
reason because he didn't know

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like know you didn't he's been
gone for years.

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He did.
Don't know what had been going

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on.
So, one Selena stood up for

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janya.
I think he realized.

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Okay, valina standing up for her
and Junior was one of the people

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who betrayed her, which he would
have learned when David showed

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up.
He was like, okay, you know

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what, maybe I need to consider
this.

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I need to think about this.
You are safe here. but when the

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queen, Saw Ginga Katrina?
No top Tiana Tiana Tiana when

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she was her name is Hannah and
was like um what does she say to

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her?
At least you look like the

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monster you are or something and
she was trying to have her

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arrested jenya looked at her and
she kind of pulled up to her

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full height.
I said, oh she's been lit.

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This bitch habits and boy did
she Shouldn't have to raise her

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voice.
She was just like, ask me how I

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did it.
Ask me, bitch, this is like I

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put the poison all over my body
for weeks.

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Every time he touched me every
time he kissed me, he took it

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into himself.
All he had to do was stop coming

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to my bed.
What are you gonna say to that?

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Nothing, you can't say a damn
thing to say because you because

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he was dead wrong and you can't
even defend them.

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Like all you can do is keep
criticizing her and look like a

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bitch in front of everybody.
You find everybody?

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But yeah, because I've everybody
heard it, they're probably like,

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oh shit, they have this kind of
fucked up, right?

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And you know for years Jenga had
it rough with the rest of the

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Grisha because the rest of the
Grisha treated her almost like a

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pariah.
You know, she talked about in

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the first episode like she
wasn't included in everything

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else.
She was kind of set apart

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because she was the queen.
Ins personal Grisha.

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And then the rumors were kind of
going around about her and the

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King, but I'm pretty sure that
the way the rumors were out

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there, in the way the word was
twisted.

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They were probably skewing it
like, genius seduce.

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The the king or that she was
having a consensual relationship

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with the King and they were all
shutting her for it, but, I

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mean, what else is she going to
do?

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Say, no, the king is raping me.
What is that going to do?

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For her?
Nothing, it won't protect her.

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So the fact that she's finally
able to put all this out and

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say, all of this, and at the
moment that this happened, she's

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actually running from David.
So when the queen Corners, her,

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David looks and he takes off.
I was like David.

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What the hell are you going?
David?

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Went to go get Nikolai.
He was like, what?

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We not going to do really Nikon
dude, right, right.

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Nikolai comes around that corner
and she was like, a, you heard

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her arrest, this murders?
And no, no, not after What I

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heard uh she is safe and that
that that's what he tells jigna.

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He was like I apologize on
behalf of all of rafta for what

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you have been doing and she
turned to him she was like I

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don't need your pity, I don't
need your apologies.

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What's been done to me cannot be
reversed what I want to know is

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are you going to be the person
to change this broken country or

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are you going to repeat the same
mistakes as the canes before?

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And he got that question, not
once but twice in this episode

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because he also got the question
from bagra.

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She was like, are you going to
be the one to change?

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All of this?
Are you going to repeat past

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mistakes?
Yeah.

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Careful, kind of bad for the
closer, everybody.

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It's just like their questions.
Like can you do this?

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Are you sure?
Are you sure like we all leave

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me alone, let me.
I feel bad because it's on him

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to fix.
Over 400 years of bullshit, you

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should just nowhere near his
home nowhere near his fall.

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And then because he is the son
of the king and queen like

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people are looking at him, like
oh, part of this is your fault.

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You know, he escaped, he got
away from them.

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That's one of the things Alina
pointed out to him.

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She was like, not everybody was
a able to escape from the

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palace, like, you were.
Some people had to do what they

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had to do in order to survive
in, that was Jigna.

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But she's one of those people.
Yeah, but he's got a task ahead

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of him and now everybody is
looking at him like okay.

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So are you gonna I'm thinking
about all these shows that we've

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watched Game of Thrones will
time where it's like, okay, are

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you going to fix the wheel?
Are you going to break it?

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Are you going to fix?
What's been broken about this

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country?
Are you going to move forward in

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a way that is healing to
everyone?

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Or are you going to do the same
stuff that everybody else is

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doing?
I think you'll be different

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because Genuinely seems like he
wants to fix the country but

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he's got a lot of work to do.
Yeah, she'll do good be

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open-minded.
Yeah, I like the fact that he's

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open being open-minded.
Like he at first, he was like,

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yeah, wait till we get to the
castle and I'm going to try you

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for treason and then he actually
listened to Alina when she

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explained, how what happened to
her, and what she went through

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in the castle.
So, it's like let me tell you,

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just what?
Summoner is not somebody.

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You want to have an enemy Yeah,
but it's like, but he actually

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listened.
He wasn't like, hard-headed

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with.
Like, we're gonna be like, like

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the queen.
She was like, yeah, I'm a queen

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and or was she was she was like,
trying to be all standoffish and

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shit even when she was proven
wrong, but he was actually

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willing to listen and be like,
oh well shit that's fucked up.

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My bail that line that she said
she was like when he was like,

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you know, she was under your she
was under your care, she's a

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servant.
He was like a, you are Mother of

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rafta.
You are supposed to embrace all

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raskins as your children.
She can't just storm about her

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because literally, he's taking a
stand right there in front of

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all the other Greeks, just
saying what you did was wrong

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and I'm letting everybody know
that.

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I know that what you did was
wrong even when he got ready to

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send her away later, she was
trying to play with him.

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She was like, no, I'm the queen
mother.

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My place is at your side.
He was like, look, Look, I love

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you and I know that your time is
Queen has not been kind, you

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didn't want to marry the king
and you know, you were

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ostracized.
You weren't treated well as

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Queen but still some of the shit
that you allowed was shit, you

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shouldn't have allowed.
And if I'm going to be the one

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to make the change, I can't have
any of that old regime with me.

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So yeah you got to go to a
Convent by she was mad but I

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mean him, Why would I sit here
and try to fix the world and

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still have vestiges of the, the
problem, the old problem

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sitting, right.
That's just, like, I hate this,

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that's just like Tom and having
Cersei sitting next to him when

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he was King, nothing, good
coming out of that.

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Another would have come nothing
good would have come out of

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Tatiana, she probably would have
been trying to make her own

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alliances or trying to yeah she
whatever whatever.

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I just she got told off and she
very well deserved it.

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I think I.
And I'ma be honest.

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I think she kind of she kind of
got off easy.

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I mean I really think she did.
I mean he could have been

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thinking he may not, he may not
want to test that fire to too

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much considering he might be a
bad.

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Bastard and she could blow his
shit up.

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So yeah because that's what
yeah, because I'm sitting here.

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I was worried about that.
I'm trying to figure out

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anything with you because he
says bastard.

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And then it's like, okay, she's
the queen and the M boys look

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alike at all.
So it'll look alike.

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They don't act like there's
nothing to like about him, but

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she was actually not.
That's actually not unusual with

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siblings.
There are lots of pairs of

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siblings who have The same
parents and they look nothing

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alike.
Well, that's sad because they

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think they have the same
parents, but when I was ignorant

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to say, is I don't look anything
like my brother.

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We don't like to say, you and
your brother, don't look alike

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to me.
Look like, if you don't look

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like here, we have the same
parents.

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What time is it?
Like so I and the other things

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too, I think is I don't think
she's gonna open her mouth about

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that.
No, she's just worried about

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keeping up appearances.
Yeah, not only that.

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But technically speaking, if you
have a bastard only King isn't

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that technically treason Yeah,
she and I got a shit.

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Yeah, she is saying shit.
I'm saying, if she's giving up

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the ghost so to speak, what else
does she give it up?

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She be giving up all kinds of
shit, you know?

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I mean, loose lips, sink ships,
so to speak.

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All I'm saying, is that as we
get on later episodes, I think I

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know who his daddy is.
Really really okay.

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We're we're not even gonna get
into that conversation.

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I gotta sit here and think about
that, but okay, oh, oh, you know

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what?
I think, I know where she's

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going.
Okay, I'm back.

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No, okay, we're not doing this,
no notnot yet, will do this

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after I think of those useless.
A, that's okay good.

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Wait.
But the other thing is when

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jenya does, finally get there,
she's able to help heal adrift

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from his amputation.
She does have a confrontation

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with David because, you know,
she keeps avoiding him because

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she doesn't want him to see her
and You know, the exchange that

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they have is interesting to me,
because all he wants to do is

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see her and to just let her know
that, he's glad that she's okay.

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And I think like I said, he'd I
think he does feel a little bit

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of guilt about leaving her but
even with genja she was like I

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told you to run.
You did what I told you to do.

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There's nothing you could have
done to help, I don't want your

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yield.
I don't want your pity you would

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have been busy.
But the thing that I loved is

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that at this moment Like you
really don't have anything lose,

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go ahead, go ahead and put them
feelings on the line.

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Because he basically told her
look, I understand that you, you

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got issues with the way you
look.

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I don't care about any of that.
He was like you you're a strong

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person on the inside.
That's your beauty.

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That's your strength and I
should have never left you.

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I'm sorry, you know, basically
I'm sorry.

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And the scene after, you know,
what happens after that when she

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calls to him and he was like,
I'm trying to figure out though.

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Like, how did you guys find us?
Because, of course, the spinning

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wheel is gone.
It's gone.

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They're underground.
And what did she say?

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She said bag or Amplified me so
that I could seek out familiar

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Heartbeats And I think it took
him a second to realize what

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that meant but I don't think up
until that moment.

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He realized just how important
he was.

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Was to Jania, you know,
sometimes I hate to say y'all,

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man.
Y'all are clueless.

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Sometimes looks like it could be
wrong.

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You're smacking your face and
you were fast and he's smart but

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he's, you know, not cannot real
quick on the uptake.

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Yeah, no.
Yeah.

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You Matt, but when it clicked it
clicked, so I'm like, okay good.

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Now, we have that ship finally.
All right, let's move on.

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I was expecting to hear Bruno
Mars start.

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Singing like when I see you.
You know, so she could just the

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way you are to her, you know.
Because he's like, you know, I

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mean, I thought that was really
sweet, like, you know, he broke

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it down towards like, look, I
don't care.

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I love.
I'm attracted to you like, and,

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you know, it's like a lesson for
everybody for like, you know,

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loving first.
Some someone for the inside as

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opposed to the outside.
So, yeah, but think about think

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about how she kind of grew up.
She grew up bad.

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Beauty was the most important
thing.

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How you look in your appearance
is what What was important

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that's why so many that's why
the queen was using her

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Services.
That's why the queen would bring

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her friends over to have her do
this.

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All she did was Taylor people.
So to her appearances is

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everything.
Yeah, that's how she was brought

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up that, you know, to fix it and
make it look good.

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But I mean now she has someone
who's like you got dead.

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No more.
I got you.

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I like the little analogy he
made because he was like, what

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did she say?
She was like, I don't have Of

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she said I can't tell you what
this is like and I don't have

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the strength, I don't have the
strength to explain it to you.

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He was like, I mean, I
understand that.

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But I understand still she was
like what the hell does that you

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have to talk to people in the
language.

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They understand right and and
but you know and that's how he

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understood.
He was like look your beauty is

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your arm.
I understand that he was like,

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but still that's What's in?
You is strong and it can't be

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broken and and it doesn't need
fixing.

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You don't need fixing to shoot.
You can just see her melt and

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I'm just sitting here like this.
So sweet tell you, I was away.

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I was a mess with this episode.
There was just, there were so

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many good moments David, and
jenya wildin and Jasper until it

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wasn't good and then it was
good.

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Again, we'll get into them too,
but oh, But continuing on with

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what's going on here with Elena
and all of them.

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So once bag or gets there, she
kind of confesses to bagger

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about the fact that she's been
seeing Kerrigan through astral

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projection and that she wants to
break this connection and so

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back or kind of encourages her.
Hey, you have to be the one to

444
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,300
break this connection.
Other than that, he's going to

445
00:28:16,308 --> 00:28:19,600
be able to use it, you know,
against you.

446
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,700
So she actually goes into this
astral plane where they are able

447
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:32,500
to communicate.
And she starts pulling the, I'm

448
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:36,400
going to take Lori's term Romeo
pimp Pinterest, I don't know

449
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,000
what you want to call it.
She starts pulling this, like

450
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:45,500
the Gustav talk to him about,
you know, Go ahead, Mike.

451
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:47,000
Hey baby.
I like it.

452
00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:51,100
Hey, baby.
I know you want to talk to you

453
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:56,600
real quick, how things have you
talking and thinking about it,

454
00:28:56,900 --> 00:29:01,100
David and I kind of like it this
is it could be me and you baby

455
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:06,100
forever and ever baby.
Whenever ghetto was just a young

456
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:09,500
baby.
Yeah, she basically walks up to

457
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:12,000
him and she's telling him
everything he wants to hear.

458
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,700
Yeah, you were right.
There's nobody else.

459
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,000
Like us, I need someone, we
could, we could they see with

460
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,100
space-age pimp playing in the
background?

461
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:30,300
That would be epic.
Oh my God.

462
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:35,500
I would never listen to the same
way again, I hate you.

463
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:41,700
I will never listen to that song
the same way again.

464
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:45,600
Oh my God.
But anyway, so yeah, she's

465
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,000
walking up to him and, you know,
she's caressing his faith and

466
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,600
all this other stuff and at
first he was looking at her like

467
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,900
bitch what you doing?
Then when she touched his face

468
00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:57,000
who just kind.
Of like, can we give in to that?

469
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,400
Oh, she's like, like, she's
coming to me.

470
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:01,900
This is it?
I've been waiting for her.

471
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,900
I've been patient and she's
coming to me.

472
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,500
She finally admitted, that Mal
doesn't understand what she's

473
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:10,800
going through, and it's just me
because she takes his hand and

474
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,300
she, she grabs it, and she pours
some of that light into it, I

475
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:18,700
guess, to dissolve, whatever
connection they have, whatever

476
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:23,300
piece was remaining in him.
And as at this moment, or during

477
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:28,000
this exchange, she In.
She's in like a I guess it's

478
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,800
kind of like an underground
Church.

479
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:34,300
So she's sitting in there where
she's communicating with

480
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:37,600
Kerrigan.
At this point Mal shows up and

481
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,400
nikolai's like where were you?
I was about to send.

482
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,200
You know, I was scared.
I was gonna have to tell Lina

483
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,400
you were dead.
He was like, no I got taken by

484
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,300
first Army.
Where is she?

485
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,100
And Nikolai was like oh she's
safe and then all of a sudden

486
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:53,100
you hear rumbling and mouse in
here looking like that don't

487
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:58,200
sound like safe that sounds like
the ceiling is about - but it's

488
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,000
because as she's she's
connecting with Kerrigan.

489
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,700
She's starting to lose control
of her powers.

490
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:09,600
And Mal is sitting there like
grabbing her trying to break her

491
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,400
out of it and she can hear him
in the astral projection, but

492
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,400
she's still trying to do what
she needs to do to break this

493
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200
connection.
So, finally Mao pulls her out of

494
00:31:18,208 --> 00:31:23,900
this connection and she's hurt
in the back of her head.

495
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:28,800
She's just hurt because she was
almost close to severing it and

496
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,700
Maya pulled her out.
So she gets Mad at mouth.

497
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:38,400
I'm like, I'm like bitch, not 20
minutes ago, you were worried

498
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,300
about him whether or not he was
Dead Alive.

499
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:41,400
Where was he?
Whatever.

500
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,800
Now, you mad because he broke a
connection that he didn't even

501
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,300
know you had because you weren't
being honest with him because

502
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:54,200
he's like, wait, wait, wait, you
can make it tall.

503
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:57,000
You have a connection problem
with both the connection.

504
00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:01,800
Wait, what, right.
He was like why didn't you tell

505
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,000
me what?
I couldn't tell you because you

506
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,700
were gone.
He was like um because I got

507
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:08,200
arrested by got kidnapped by
first Army.

508
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,900
Vasily had me arrested for
desertion and the look on her

509
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:14,800
face was He's like, oh, I was
like seeing, here we go.

510
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,200
Again like Alina, I be trying to
have your back but when it comes

511
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:24,100
to Mal, you treat them like
trash sometimes like you know,

512
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:27,700
who we are.
Realizing this relationship is

513
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:31,900
going like it's going to crash
and burn and penis, and she's

514
00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:36,100
dying in his arms.
I told Robert already called it.

515
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,400
I called it.
Last episode.

516
00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:44,000
Yeah, but she's sitting there.
She's upset and she was like,

517
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,700
she was like, what was it?
She said something about them

518
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000
being in lockstep, he was like
hold up hold up.

519
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:55,500
Still you know oh that was what
it was.

520
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,200
She was upset with him because
she was like you're just putting

521
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,800
one foot in front of the other.
Basically what y'all were

522
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,100
talking about in last episode,
whatever name, whatever Lena is

523
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:10,600
saying, Mal does you know, and
she's even like, oh, you're

524
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,900
sitting here doing all of this?
Oh, Okay.

525
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Stag sea whip, Firebird
engagement?

526
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Like you're going to walk me
down the aisle and you act like

527
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,100
nothing's wrong and blah blah
blah.

528
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:23,200
He was like of course or what'd
she say and you act like it

529
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,700
doesn't hurt.
He was like, of course, I was.

530
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:26,300
But what else am I supposed to
do?

531
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:31,400
He was like, you are on a path
that I can't even follow.

532
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,000
You're doing this, this, this,
this miss.

533
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:38,600
It was like, you're putting
yourself at risk, you know,

534
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,100
meeting with Kerry and trying to
trying to break this connection.

535
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:45,400
He was like, I'm already doing
everything that I can to try to

536
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,900
help you do what's right to do
to, you know, get rid of the

537
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:52,600
fold to save Rascal to protect
yourself.

538
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,900
I'm doing everything.
That I can do.

539
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,600
And you keep doing other shit.
He was like just he was like,

540
00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:05,400
it's like nothing else exists
and she basically was like, it

541
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,400
doesn't?
He was like, okay, that's big.

542
00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:11,900
I just made it.
I needed to hear you say it.

543
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Say less, right?
And she tried to take my, he was

544
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,500
like, no, this is what you were
meant for.

545
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:21,400
You were meant for greater
things, he's going to also keep

546
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,600
him today, right?
He was like all I can do is find

547
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,400
you to fire bird.
That's all.

548
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,699
And that's basically all it is.
Is I'm, I'm here to do whatever

549
00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:32,500
it is that you need to do to be
greater, whatever he turns

550
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:35,000
around and walks off.
And she's sitting there upset

551
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000
because she realized like, get
out of put my foot in my mouth

552
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:40,800
again.
She said, he and she tried to

553
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,400
grab it and bring back his too
late now, he's gone.

554
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,699
He's like, oh, okay.
I see where I stand.

555
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:51,199
Yeah.
And you know, when you're

556
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,400
talking, I don't blame man.
I don't blame Al at all.

557
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,800
I really don't know.
And I don't I honestly don't

558
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,900
think she meant it in that way,
but right now, she did not know

559
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:05,400
what I'm saying.
Is, what I'm saying is, I don't,

560
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,000
I don't think that she said,
that Mal is not important to

561
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,400
her.
I don't think that's what she

562
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,900
was saying, but what was he
said, was this is more

563
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:14,100
important.
It is.

564
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:20,900
Yeah, mmm.
And the thing is like, I, you

565
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:23,200
know, it because it's almost
like she should have a

566
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,600
conversation with Carrie getting
like, you know, here again, you

567
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,600
do you I'm just going to me a
mad, we're going to go back to

568
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,100
the orphanage and we going to
render or from the engine and

569
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:36,500
raised some kids just have at it
you know saying just have a

570
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:40,300
daddy just just leave us alone
this all-male wants.

571
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:44,500
Yeah but but the other thing is
Mal knows that that's not what's

572
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:48,700
meant for her but as soon as
that with me and for her I'm

573
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:54,000
saying yeah I know but I guess
my whole thing is everything

574
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,600
that Mal has done has given up
his sacrifice.

575
00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:04,200
He lost friends, trying to find
this fucking stack for you, at

576
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,200
least again, show him the
courtesy of understand it.

577
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:14,200
How, how much you sacrifice
without spoiling anything we see

578
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,600
this is that relationship later,
you know, we see the same thing

579
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,700
later.
This is how it's supposed to be

580
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,000
that how it is.
And, I mean, yeah, and I also

581
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,200
think that this is a very
troubling trend for Lena,

582
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,700
because she's getting more and
more about saving grafica by any

583
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:36,400
means necessary.
She's like all Malcolm X about

584
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,500
this shit now and it's like,
she's like, she's like I want to

585
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:41,500
say Ralph come on, save it by
any means.

586
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,200
And I don't care who I go
through, I'm going.

587
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:47,800
And it's like, she's like
laser-focused and blind heard,

588
00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:50,100
about doing this, and getting
what she wants that.

589
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:54,600
She like you said, I don't think
she knew how what she was saying

590
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,300
to Mouse.
It sounded but it's like she

591
00:36:57,300 --> 00:37:00,100
probably had better intentions
than the words that came out of

592
00:37:00,107 --> 00:37:02,200
her mouth.
But she was still like, you

593
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,700
know, I could have sent word
that I we could have go and we

594
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:07,400
could have gotten the upper hand
on Kerrigan and we could have

595
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,800
because one just blasted war and
then that could have found the

596
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,300
firebird and then all the stuff
I'm doing all this stuff and

597
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:15,000
you're not and you're not
helping, you know, you're not

598
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,400
talking to me.
It's like, cause I think she

599
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,500
really.
I mean, she loves balance.

600
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:22,600
She was like, why haven't you
been fighting for me War?

601
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:24,400
I think she wants him to fight
more.

602
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,800
Like be like, no.
What the hell is like?

603
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,100
No has almost died for her.
How many times?

604
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:31,800
How much more fighting can you
like?

605
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,900
Okay, so this is the thought
that I had in my head that just

606
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:38,000
went out a few minutes ago
Elena.

607
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,900
I feel like her sense of
self-importance is getting to a

608
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:49,800
point where She in a lot of
aspects of we talked about this

609
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,200
with the last episode in a lot
of aspects.

610
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,500
She's starting to mimic some of
cure, cure against personality

611
00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:01,700
traits, you know?
And and it's more than just, oh,

612
00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:04,300
I'm the only person who can
destroy the fold.

613
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:09,400
Yes, that may be well and true
but you can't stand on this hill

614
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,600
alone.
You have to have other people

615
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:16,300
behind you to help you think
about it.

616
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:20,000
You wouldn't even be where you
are right now, without a Mal,

617
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,500
without the crows without
Nikolai.

618
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,100
Without all of these people who
have been helping you every step

619
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:30,400
of the way.
But for you to sit here and have

620
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,100
that self-importance that, oh, I
have to be the one to do this.

621
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:35,800
This is the only thing that's
important.

622
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,500
Yes, it is important, but don't
burn your bridges on the way to

623
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,500
trying to Feel that prophecy
because those bridges.

624
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:45,800
If you burn them you go fuck
yourself up.

625
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:51,000
You know, and I just feel like
she's not.

626
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:57,000
I think part of the thing is she
takes for granted that Mal will

627
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,100
always be there.
She really takes that for

628
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:04,200
granted you know, and and and I
understand it.

629
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,900
He's always been there.
There's been no precedent where

630
00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:11,700
he hasn't been except for when
they were being forcibly kept

631
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:15,400
apart.
And even with that, her dumb ass

632
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,800
was sitting here thinking, oh,
he, he Forgot about me.

633
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,500
Oh, he's mad at me because I'm
Grisha.

634
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:23,500
Oh, he's not writing me.
And what world is this?

635
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:26,200
That Mal would ever be like, oh
okay, fuck this bitch I don't

636
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,200
want nothing to do with her.
No, again we need to remember

637
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,500
that these aren't adults.
These are young people,

638
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,400
everybody in this story is Young
and life.

639
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,000
That is your best friend.
That is your ride or die.

640
00:39:57,300 --> 00:40:00,800
That is the person that y'all
have always had each other's

641
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,500
backs.
So it has nothing to do with

642
00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:06,300
age.
That's common sense.

643
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:13,700
There are certain things that
are that are True in this world.

644
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:17,800
And for her, it should be that
she should know that Mal is 100%

645
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,200
loyal to her period relationship
or not.

646
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,600
Yeah, yeah.
But I mean plus, I mean you

647
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,500
have, I mean, it's fair to say
that the Dynamics of the

648
00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:32,700
relationship have changed
slightly now because of how

649
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:35,300
they've expressed her feelings
for each other, and that's new

650
00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:38,100
to her.
So, the core of that is still

651
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:40,400
the same, the core of that has
not changed.

652
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:42,100
Change.
But she's figuring that out.

653
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:44,100
She's figuring that out.
Now she did, she didn't know

654
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:46,900
that before.
Okay, I'm I know you.

655
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:49,900
I know you do not take this as
cute as an excuse, but I'm still

656
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:51,600
going to say it.
She's young.

657
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:56,000
And as the, as the Elder
spokesman here, in this, in this

658
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,200
chat.
In this podcast, I'm Jay these

659
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,600
youngins don't know anything
about this any of this

660
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,000
relationship stuff.
I've been young before, they are

661
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,300
some things that you just know.
It does still have the

662
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:13,800
experience like I mean, you're
not any wave like various

663
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:22,400
something that necessarily not
necessarily.

664
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,200
I can tell y'all, I can tell
you, I don't read why a and

665
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:35,100
romance a lot know.
There's a tell you right there,

666
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:40,900
your expectation level might be
a little bit woman's intuition.

667
00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:44,900
There are some things that, you
know, and don't have to have

668
00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:49,000
explained to you.
Then why do so many women put

669
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,000
their best friends in the friend
zone?

670
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:55,100
Noah, Goodwill.
That's probably the person you

671
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:58,700
should be with.
I hope he's he's like my brother

672
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:06,300
so no I don't see you that way
because I take my blood type of

673
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:10,400
thing goes.
Sometimes if you if you are in

674
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,500
a, if you have a friendship with
somebody and you're not looking

675
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:18,600
at them in a romantic way at
first regardless, yeah, there's

676
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,600
some people who later on down
the line, they end up falling.

677
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,800
Love with each other.
But if they like when you think

678
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,500
about Elena now they never
discussed each other as.

679
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:32,400
Oh, he's like my brother.
Oh, she's like my sister Because

680
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,300
deep down, they already knew
that they felt different ways

681
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:37,600
about each other.
They just didn't know that the

682
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,900
other person reciprocated.
But when you have a best friend,

683
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:43,800
I have a best friend that I had
been best friends with since the

684
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,100
start of my ninth grade year and
we've never looked at each other

685
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:51,900
romantically.
He's always been like a brother

686
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,700
When you start seeing someone in
that way, to turn up for, at

687
00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:01,100
least for me to turn around and
try to look at them differently,

688
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:04,100
it feels very incest E, I can't
do it.

689
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,300
But not everyone is just not.
Even one is the same and I have

690
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:13,800
to allow for.
Like he never had a girlfriend,

691
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,100
she never had a boyfriend and me
being together all these.

692
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,800
Okay.
I won't say he's had

693
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,500
relationship.
Relations not relationship.

694
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:28,600
Yeah.
What are you trying to get a

695
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,800
piece to somebody having
relations with somebody?

696
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,500
You sort of know how this thing
works?

697
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,800
We don't know that, we don't
know the extent of what those

698
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,500
relationships were.
He may have tried to have

699
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:45,500
relationships and then realized,
oh, I can't be with this person

700
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:47,900
because I feel like this for
somebody else, we don't know

701
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:52,200
because that's not an important
part of the story, but what I'm

702
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,600
saying is, We've gone into the
weeds as Anthony likes to say.

703
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,300
But what I'm saying is there are
certain things.

704
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:04,500
That as far as their friendship
goes, that Elena should know

705
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:08,100
without a doubt by this point,
especially after he proved that

706
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:13,000
bullshit, you know, fate last
year when she was like, oh you

707
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,700
you just forgot about me.
You didn't you didn't write to

708
00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:17,400
me.
He was like, I wrote you all the

709
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,000
time.
Like, I was trying.

710
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,800
I've been trying to find you
since you left Camp.

711
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,500
I have crossed the country on
feet.

712
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,000
I have been shot.
I have been stabbed.

713
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,600
AB my two friends got killed,
trying to find this fucking stag

714
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,400
for you.
Like, come on now, there are

715
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,600
certain things that shouldn't
have to be spelled out for you.

716
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,900
And one of those things is that
Mal is your fucking ride or die.

717
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,800
Right.
But this difference between, I

718
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,400
mean, I see, I think I still
think you're giving her way too

719
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,200
much credit like way too much
and I think you're not giving

720
00:44:53,200 --> 00:45:00,700
them enough.
Again, look, I can only Okay, I

721
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:04,900
can I can only see this as I'm
putting this in the way that

722
00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:09,900
Alina is acting.
It's like she is not really, she

723
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:12,700
doesn't know she's not catching.
Her is like when she was talking

724
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:15,100
to my laughter, he snapped her
out of it, she couldn't.

725
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:18,500
She didn't, you couldn't catch
herself and see and hear how she

726
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:21,800
was sounding.
And but she just went off on him

727
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,000
and it's like now might be
mature, might have might have

728
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,100
more experience to be a little
more mature and can handle it

729
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:32,200
because he was like cuz he he
wasn't really trying to engage

730
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,400
her like that but she was just
going off on him and still

731
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,400
saying things that sounded
terrible.

732
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,600
That sounded like didn't sound
the way that she wanted them to

733
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,300
sound but she was still plowing
through with it.

734
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,900
That's why I was saying that she
is not experienced enough to

735
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:51,800
know that I need you.
Okay, I need to pull back some

736
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,500
that didn't sound right, like
she didn't even really tried it.

737
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:58,500
It seemed like she really tried
to like walk anything back and

738
00:45:58,500 --> 00:45:59,600
be like look that's not really
what?

739
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,400
It to say she just went straight
forward with it.

740
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:06,900
No she tried at the end when he
walked off but I still think, I

741
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:10,900
think that.
Yeah, yeah, but like Her

742
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:13,800
emotions when she first came out
of this, that I can understand

743
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,400
that.
Because she's right there, she's

744
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,700
almost, she's almost seven this
connection.

745
00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:21,700
And then when you see in the
next scene with her and bad,

746
00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:25,600
we're talking she's talking
about how she can feel secure

747
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,400
again.
She's like, every time I use my

748
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:32,200
power is like he has his hand on
me, forcing me to use it.

749
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:38,100
So I can understand her
agitation at not being able to

750
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:40,800
sever that link.
And you know, like I said, Said

751
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:43,900
once Mao kind of put it out
there he was I okay.

752
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:47,400
See that's what you meant.
I just needed you to hear you

753
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,400
say it.
So now that we know what page is

754
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,500
where on, we know that you are
way over here and I'm way back

755
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:56,600
here and this is where we're
going to be and he walks off

756
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,400
like she understands what she's
what she said and what she's

757
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,200
done.
But yeah, you know how?

758
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,500
No, she doesn't understand.
She had been worried about my

759
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:10,200
old looking for mouth feverishly
but when he snapped out of it,

760
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:13,500
This is her first instinct
wasn't looking like, oh my God,

761
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:15,200
where have you been?
I missed you.

762
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,200
It wasn't she was like what the
fuck did you do that?

763
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,200
For, that was the first thing.
She said, hush right.

764
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,700
Then her thing was she was
trying to break the link with

765
00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:28,000
Kerrigan.
If you listened to the

766
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,900
conversation she had with bad
words.

767
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:36,000
Not only is she trying to is she
trying to sever this link from

768
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,600
curing like this actual physical
link.

769
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,600
She needs to sever the men.
Talika as well.

770
00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:45,500
Here again is in her head.
She thinks that everything about

771
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:49,100
her is because of him, she
thinks that her being Grisha.

772
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:51,200
Her being told she was meant for
great things.

773
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,300
These are all things that he
told her instilled in her life,

774
00:47:55,300 --> 00:48:00,100
she said he betrayed jenya, he
betrayed Raska and back or had

775
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:05,300
to say to her and he betrayed
you he violated you when you are

776
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:09,500
in a space even a headspace
where somebody has that much

777
00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:12,400
control over.
Are what you do and how you

778
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,300
feel.
Even though that person, the

779
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:19,600
other person who broke her out
of, that is right there, she's

780
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,500
more.
So, when she's coming out of

781
00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:26,400
that, she's thinking, oh my God,
I almost broke this, I almost

782
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:31,400
had him out and you don't
realize how deep it is for her

783
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:36,500
mentally, emotionally until she
has that conversation with bad

784
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:39,300
word.
So, what I'm saying is I don't

785
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:44,000
blame her for not Not like when
she sees that Mal is okay.

786
00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:48,600
When she comes out of it, she
still angry.

787
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:52,000
Because I think in her mind,
when she was in the astral

788
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,200
plane, with Kerrigan, she heard
Mouse voice.

789
00:48:56,300 --> 00:49:00,000
Elena stop Elena, come back,
Elena, come back.

790
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:08,400
She let me hurry up and get this
motherfucker out of my head.

791
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,900
She just selfish.
I think it part partly.

792
00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:16,700
Yes, I do think that is it
again.

793
00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:21,500
I think her her sense of
self-importance has started to

794
00:49:21,500 --> 00:49:25,500
get up there, but I think also
to she really, she really was

795
00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:31,900
just Get cure again, whatever
grip he has on her, whether real

796
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:34,500
or imagined, she's trying to get
rid of that.

797
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:41,200
But she like, like you said, the
way she reacted and is like, she

798
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,200
didn't realize until she said
the wrong thing.

799
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:48,100
She was like, oh wait, maybe I
shouldn't have said that, huh?

800
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:50,900
Okay.
But it's a little, it's a little

801
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:55,800
too late for that now, but at
least, I think he was able to

802
00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:59,800
break through to her like, okay.
So you doing all this dangerous

803
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,500
stuff, you going to have to cure
again on your own.

804
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,500
That's not going to work.
Like what are we doing all of

805
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:07,600
this other stuff?
What are all of these people

806
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,500
dying for?
If you're just going to put

807
00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:13,500
yourself In Harm's Way without
thinking of anything else to do?

808
00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:19,600
And I think she realizes that
when she goes to talk to Nikolai

809
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:23,500
and she gives him back the ring
because you know, when he asked

810
00:50:23,500 --> 00:50:27,500
her when her and mouth start
having this exchange bagra and

811
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:31,400
Nikolai both in the room and
when she goes off on Mal bag or

812
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,000
nickel, I kind of look at each
other and they walk out the

813
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,500
room.
They're like yeah we don't want

814
00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:37,100
to be a part of this
conversation.

815
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,100
So nickel I asked her.
He was like, you know, is

816
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:43,000
everything okay with Mal?
And she was like, he's never

817
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,300
walked away from me like that
before.

818
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:47,200
Or, I don't know.
And he was like, Mal loves you.

819
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,700
Anybody can see?
I can see it.

820
00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:55,200
And it's like, when he says that
that's, that's the first time I

821
00:50:55,207 --> 00:51:00,200
think anybody has said anything
about love between those two,

822
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,100
and the fact that you have to
have a stranger, tell you this,

823
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:07,700
because my, at this point, my
lanolina have not said those

824
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:11,500
words to each other.
Like it's very evident, but they

825
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:14,000
haven't actually said the words
in the fact that Nikolai could

826
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,000
say, my loves you.
I can see it.

827
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:19,900
And she's like, you know what?
Yep, you're right.

828
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:23,100
Let me give you this ring back
and he was like, Firebird she

829
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:28,200
was like yeah because again Mal
is not going to steer her wrong.

830
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:32,800
He has not so far.
So if he says, okay, we need to

831
00:51:32,808 --> 00:51:36,100
go find this fiber so you can
finally do what the fuck it is.

832
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:39,200
You need to do including getting
rid of Kerrigan.

833
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:43,200
What else are you going to do?
Like you.

834
00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:46,500
She could have died trying to
sever that time with him.

835
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,600
I mean you see her holding her
head, she's got blood on her

836
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,600
head probably from when she gets
when she smacked her head on the

837
00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:00,300
floor.
Yeah but it's like she's knocked

838
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:04,100
herself, unconscious doing that.
Kerrigan could have killed her

839
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:06,400
the niche of or you could have
gotten to her.

840
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:14,500
Stop stop being sold.
So selfish, that is so hair,

841
00:52:14,500 --> 00:52:18,800
hair, strong, that you just go
into things without without

842
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,600
thinking.
Again, you were a cartographer,

843
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,600
you are not a soldier, you don't
know how to how to plan things

844
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:34,700
tactically, leave that for other
people. but yeah, so she's gonna

845
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:41,100
go off and find a firebird and
yeah.

846
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:48,500
That's called, let's talk about
the crows a little bit because

847
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,100
wildin and Jasper are morning
after Bliss.

848
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:59,200
They got the glow, they got.
The glow has is having

849
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:05,100
nightmares in his bed because
he's dreaming about the water

850
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:09,800
and waking up on the barge and
touching the dead flesh of, you

851
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,600
know, of the people that were on
the barge and, you know, he

852
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,200
wakes up and he's like,
literally trying to scrub the

853
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:23,900
feeling off of his hands.
And this is that's kind of hard.

854
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,900
I can't even imagine that
happening.

855
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:28,600
Now.
It's like laying in a barge full

856
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,200
of dead people.
Including your brother like,

857
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:34,800
with with, with a, with a
communicable disease where you'd

858
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,800
like popped out and I'm like,
like I don't think God, I would

859
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,800
never feel clean ever again.
No chance.

860
00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:44,000
And then if you think about it
you don't know how long those

861
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,300
bodies have been there.
You don't know how long he's

862
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:48,200
been on that barge how long he's
been unconscious?

863
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:51,100
Jesus and he probably had to
swim to shore.

864
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,100
Yeah.
But even before that the bodies

865
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:56,900
are wet, you see it.
When you see his vision of him

866
00:53:56,900 --> 00:54:00,800
touching touching, the stomach
of one of the people, the, the

867
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,900
flesh is wet.
Anything that we've learned in

868
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:08,300
science class about dead bodies.
At some point, gas is going to

869
00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:13,800
start expanding the bodies and
it probably just felt clammy and

870
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,400
and moist and just grow.
Okay?

871
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,100
Okay, okay.
Okay,

872
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:35,100
I'm sorry, I said the f word but
yes, Anyway, said a lot of words

873
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:39,100
that were just discussing their,
hold you and you, and you, and

874
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:42,000
your, your description, your
descriptive was religious.

875
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,200
But that puts you in the mind of
Kaz, brecher and why he has this

876
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:53,800
phobia that he has, but it's
it's right after that that they

877
00:54:53,800 --> 00:55:00,400
get V the letter from Nikolai
about finding the shin, your and

878
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:06,000
Toya and Zoya had finally, In
there now, is so funny because

879
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,300
Zoya and Nina are sitting on
opposite ends of the table and

880
00:55:10,300 --> 00:55:12,800
they're having these
conversations and Zoya is

881
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,100
accusing Nina of, you know,
abandoning the country and

882
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:20,500
betraying and she was like,
excuse me, it didn't take for

883
00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:23,700
him to destroy a city for me to
see where my loyalties needed to

884
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:26,200
be his heart was looking at her
like bitch.

885
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,800
She was telling the truth.
Nina was gone way before all of

886
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,700
that happened?
She was like, yeah, I'm not

887
00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:34,100
working for this day.
Dude, anymore.

888
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:40,700
Deuces.
But this is where they get the

889
00:55:40,700 --> 00:55:43,300
orders as far as what they need
doing.

890
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:48,100
And you know the mission cares
is still being hard-headed

891
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:51,300
talking about knowing ish is not
going to be a part of this uh

892
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:57,200
not a part of this Mission.
Jasper was like, fuck you.

893
00:55:57,900 --> 00:55:59,500
Yeah.
In the words of the great

894
00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:02,400
Pharrell Williams and I'm happy
birthday by the way, he should

895
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:09,100
stop frontin.
I mean he we know by now by now

896
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:12,800
it's like every time he says
something about an edge not

897
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,400
coming back or an edge going
away, we just look at them like

898
00:56:17,300 --> 00:56:22,300
Really, and I even love it when
they're Nina and Jasper are in

899
00:56:22,300 --> 00:56:27,900
Anna's room because Nina is
taking off the slave, symbol off

900
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:34,500
of Indonesia's wrist and Nina.
I mean, imagine just like why

901
00:56:34,500 --> 00:56:38,200
would he not tell me about this,
you know about this job for the

902
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,600
sun?
Summoner, and Nina was like

903
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,500
because he would rather push you
away rather than admit how he

904
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:46,900
feels about you.
And there's a just Both looking

905
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:49,600
at her like what is?
She was like, oh, I'm sorry, was

906
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,100
I not supposed to say that out
loud?

907
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:54,400
Just was like, I'm so glad you
actually hit.

908
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,000
Okay.
So like they'll start talking

909
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,900
about snarky Anthony?
Could that was the perfect?

910
00:56:58,900 --> 00:56:59,600
No.
No.

911
00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:02,000
It's something else.
Can we just can we step back for

912
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,000
a second?
Mmm.

913
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:12,100
So, Now Nina and her powers
because now she's removing it.

914
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,700
She's changing the tattoo, okay?
Yeah, no.

915
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:21,900
So she's the heart of render.
She was trying to do healing in

916
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:23,400
the last episode you.
I will know.

917
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,300
Maybe she was using like regular
medicine.

918
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:29,500
No, I think she was actually
doing some healing.

919
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:32,600
She was trying, you know what I
thought about that when I watch

920
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:37,400
this episode again, because if I
remember from the first season

921
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:43,600
they all, are they all can do
like certain things that other,

922
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:49,100
that other Grisha can do, like,
certain things within that.

923
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:52,500
Skill set.
But it's just the one thing that

924
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:54,900
they do that they are like the
experts on.

925
00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:57,700
I think.
I remember something about that

926
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,800
in the first season.
Okay.

927
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:03,200
So yeah.
So yeah.

928
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,400
So maybe the court is it corp,
corp.

929
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:08,800
Corp, Rocky.
Yeah.

930
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,400
So how renders father that
category I believe?

931
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,000
Maybe be all if you're in that
category, you have the ability

932
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,100
to do certain things.
I think we talked.

933
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:24,800
About this before because it's
how it is with, with, with Jedi

934
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,400
because some do that are good at
other things and I'm not get it,

935
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:34,300
some things like they're did, I
bet he'll but they really can't

936
00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:39,800
do anything else.
Like foresight is something some

937
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,700
Jedi have some degree of
foresight, right?

938
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,900
Anakin was pretty high, you'll
was pretty high Obi-Wan's.

939
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,000
Okay, but he's really good at
sea.

940
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,800
In Blaster Fire coming at them.
Like this is like ranges so

941
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,000
maybe heart.
Renders is just a specific

942
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,800
subset type but you can still do
a little bit of healing but you

943
00:59:01,808 --> 00:59:04,700
really got to work at it and
some of them may not have to

944
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:06,600
work at it as much.
Yeah.

945
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:11,000
Because if you think about it to
janya saying what she did early

946
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:16,600
in this episode genja is a
Taylor which is Ina sorta, which

947
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,900
is like a Healer but not Is
there a big difference between a

948
00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:26,100
supposedly because Jiang Yan has
made mention a couple of times

949
00:59:26,100 --> 00:59:28,200
that her particular type of
Grisha?

950
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,900
Power is extremely rare.
Yeah, like she can actually

951
00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:34,300
alter a person's appearance,
hmm.

952
00:59:34,500 --> 00:59:39,400
But if you can change, someone's
physical properties then you

953
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,000
should be able to heal as well.
Hmm.

954
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,500
So is with tattoo out of the
tattoo removal would be more

955
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:50,100
more tailoring than healing.
I think it will be It's the same

956
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:56,500
like you're healing the the
scarring from the tattoo because

957
00:59:56,500 --> 01:00:00,600
you still see like you still see
this line of it too?

958
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,500
Yes.
Had to remove the ink or

959
01:00:03,508 --> 01:00:06,300
whatever.
Yeah and if you think about it

960
01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:10,400
like I said with genja when she
told David how she found them

961
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,800
she said bag or Amplified me so
that I would look for familiar

962
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,500
heartbeats you would think
that's something a heart render

963
01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:18,900
would do.
Yeah.

964
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,200
So, she has to be all have if
you're in that area, you all

965
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,300
have that sort of range.
Mmm.

966
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,300
Yeah.
Girl, you just really good at

967
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:32,300
something and not is getting
something else, right?

968
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:34,900
You look at it.
If you look at a book wise,

969
01:00:34,900 --> 01:00:37,200
they're like Missy laughs.
Please Harold.

970
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,700
They all have a basic, but then
they move up and skill set on

971
01:00:40,700 --> 01:00:42,800
different ways, that they can do
different things.

972
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:49,000
So, I see them as Harold like.
But I agree that a tailor and a

973
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,200
A Healer are pretty much basic
except for you know, as they get

974
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,800
a higher skill set.
Now my question I had with with

975
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:03,300
with her is that her face is
horribly?

976
01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:08,200
Scarred.
Can't she Taylor herself?

977
01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:12,700
No bag with says, so in the last
episode because when you first,

978
01:01:12,700 --> 01:01:15,800
when we first seen genja after
she's regained Consciousness,

979
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,400
that's what she's doing, she has
her hand over her face and Bag

980
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,000
with says, there's no sense in
trying to tailor that girl,

981
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,200
Marie, that that's car was
created by MERS owes.

982
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,100
You won't be able to fix it.
No amount of tailoring will be

983
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:33,100
able to remove that.
Okay, so A Healer could maybe he

984
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:36,500
lit a little no because if you
think about it just like with

985
01:01:36,500 --> 01:01:41,200
Kerrigan Jenny was able to take
away some of it but the rest of

986
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,000
it she couldn't and she said
that that that's that's the

987
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,700
extent of my Powers.
Okay?

988
01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:48,600
Okay.
Okay okay.

989
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:54,000
I remember Ever saying that now,
but I didn't catch what the full

990
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,700
meaning of it, I guess so.
So my next question is, is okay.

991
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,000
So you're talking about familiar
hearts and you're talking about,

992
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:07,400
you know, how they can sense in
the Amplified, if, if she can

993
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,600
sense.
David does that mean that David

994
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,200
could possibly if he was
searching for her?

995
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,000
Remember she was looking for
him, he could sense her because

996
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,400
he's a, he's a, he's a Gasps.
That's an I think that's a

997
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,800
different that's a different
classification so it wouldn't.

998
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,500
Okay.
All right, I don't I don't think

999
01:02:25,900 --> 01:02:30,200
or you know what I will say
this, maybe that's one of those

1000
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,100
things like.
Okay.

1001
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:35,400
So if you think about it like
let's say in the military, okay?

1002
01:02:36,300 --> 01:02:38,700
You can be in the military,
everybody who's going to be in

1003
01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:42,700
the military is going to get
basic first aid skills, right?

1004
01:02:42,700 --> 01:02:46,400
You're going to get basic,
whatever skills and then

1005
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:48,900
depending on what branch you're
in.

1006
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,200
Like somebody in the Army is not
going to be able to fly a Jet

1007
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,500
right?
You know somebody who's flying

1008
01:02:55,500 --> 01:02:59,100
the jet is not going to be able
to man, I sub right but I think

1009
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:01,600
about it on those levels like
there are certain things that

1010
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,700
they all can do.
Like, maybe they can all heal to

1011
01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:08,700
a certain degree like basic
first day.

1012
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,000
Maybe they all can hear
heartbeats.

1013
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,100
They may not be able to control
them like a heart render, but

1014
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:18,200
there may be certain things that
they all can do across the

1015
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,100
board.
But I don't think so.

1016
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:25,100
I don't think that I don't, it
doesn't seem like I have to go

1017
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:28,500
back and read because I think
they do talk about something to

1018
01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:32,900
that nature about.
How about how the skills are

1019
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,100
Amplified within each person.
I'm going to have to look at

1020
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:40,800
that and see his in.
There were Saints at that would

1021
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:49,300
be similar to Compound V.
And the boys boys, because they

1022
01:03:49,300 --> 01:03:53,800
all have their healing Factor,
they all are durable.

1023
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,400
They all have like a base level
thing and then they have

1024
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,900
specific individual Powers.
Hmm.

1025
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:07,900
But it seems like this is very
much like I hate using avatar

1026
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:12,600
The Last Airbender as a
reference point but like Earth,

1027
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:19,400
you know, even within earth.
People who can who, how why is

1028
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,900
this gaping me now?
Earth-based Benders you've Earth

1029
01:04:23,900 --> 01:04:28,500
Benders like tough.
Could Bend metal, not all

1030
01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:32,100
earthbenders can do that.
Hmm, you know, and they're water

1031
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:34,500
benders who can be in blood.
Not all would have been

1032
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:39,500
described as you're right, but
don't have earthbenders who can

1033
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:45,200
move water a little bit, you
mean, but at some point, Is all

1034
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,900
Spirit bending because we find
out.

1035
01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:51,800
You know, spoiler it is all
spent Spirit bidding and then

1036
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,400
some went in a different
direction and others.

1037
01:04:56,500 --> 01:04:59,900
Anyway, this new, the end of it
so I don't, I think they're all

1038
01:04:59,900 --> 01:05:03,300
Silo this far as heart renderers
and duress.

1039
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,800
But duress is not going to have
any abilities that are hard.

1040
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,600
Winter will have and re-renders
not going to have any abilities

1041
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,700
dressed app.
Now, if you would say, they had

1042
01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:17,300
things like, you know, Exhale,
really hearing Healy for

1043
01:05:17,300 --> 01:05:21,800
themselves maybe, you know, a
little bit of durability because

1044
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,800
doing a small Sciences requires
a little bit more dexterity a

1045
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,800
little bit more strength, little
bit more bone density.

1046
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:34,200
Okay, looks like that sewer but
the actual small science is,

1047
01:05:34,300 --> 01:05:37,300
they're probably not any there
probably isn't any crossover

1048
01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:41,000
then the individual will be
overpowered imagining it being a

1049
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:46,200
derp ass and able to heal or
able heart render a little bit.

1050
01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:48,900
You be a problem.
Yeah, that's why I said I don't

1051
01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:53,800
think it's something that will
be major like if I can see being

1052
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,600
a Grisha and being able to heal
like a minor cut, you know

1053
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:02,000
nothing.
Nothing expensive, something

1054
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,000
just minor.
The fact that jigna said bag or

1055
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:11,100
had to amplify her so that she
can hear Davis heartbeat, you

1056
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:14,100
don't have too many human
amplifiers and there aren't even

1057
01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:17,300
that many.
Any a animal amplifiers out

1058
01:06:17,300 --> 01:06:19,000
there.
So that's not something I would

1059
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,700
expect everyone to do.
Maybe if bagger was with David

1060
01:06:23,700 --> 01:06:26,800
and David wanted to look for
something that she might be able

1061
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:33,200
to amplify that because she, she
kind of she amplifies, you know,

1062
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:37,800
so even even things that they
may be able to do in a minut

1063
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:42,100
way, she might be able to
amplify that little power or

1064
01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:49,000
whatever to A minimum point to,
you know, to a baseline point to

1065
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,900
where they could do that.
But without her, it's probably

1066
01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:54,800
just kind of one of those things
kind of like, it's kind of like

1067
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:59,500
me being a mixed person.
I have all these this DNA, and

1068
01:06:59,500 --> 01:07:02,900
then I might have, like, 1% over
here.

1069
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:06,700
If there were something that can
amplify it, that's probably,

1070
01:07:06,700 --> 01:07:08,900
that's how it kind of how I look
at it.

1071
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:11,700
Like they're bad.
Girl would be the thing that can

1072
01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:14,400
amplify that little one percent
of whatever.

1073
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,100
Our aggression may have yeah fit
and that's I guess it's where we

1074
01:07:19,100 --> 01:07:22,700
disagree because I don't even
think it Durant's will have any

1075
01:07:22,700 --> 01:07:24,800
ability to since anybody's heart
beat.

1076
01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:30,100
Like, I think this strictly core
because the core, the core pero,

1077
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:34,200
aqu�� seem to people who can do
with the body things that you do

1078
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,800
with the body.
And the duress is things that do

1079
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,700
with metals and objects and
stuff.

1080
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:45,900
But if you're because like for
Fabricators are direct Like

1081
01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:50,200
they're all the same but if you
think about it one technically

1082
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,500
speaking, the heart, the blood
has Metals in it.

1083
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:57,600
We have Metals in our body.
Well there's metal in it.

1084
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,800
Yes.
But uh yeah but yeah I can't but

1085
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,600
I can't feel you know we're
talking a weird smell, we're

1086
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,300
talking about specifically about
hearing the heartbeat, think

1087
01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:12,200
about Jesper.
When he was focusing the bullets

1088
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,900
to Ivan, he was listening for
items.

1089
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,700
Heartbeat.
No, he was sensing the weakness

1090
01:08:18,700 --> 01:08:22,100
where he hit him the first time
in the in the armor.

1091
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:26,399
He could tell where was it
wasn't his heartbeat?

1092
01:08:26,899 --> 01:08:30,500
You sure.
Yeah that matter was okay.

1093
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,000
I'm have to go back because I
think maybe I'm thinking about

1094
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,600
the other because there were a
couple of fight scenes going on

1095
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,100
during that sequence, but I
thought that there was a part of

1096
01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:44,399
that but you might not
understand what I understand

1097
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:47,899
what you're saying is this.
I don't think it's likely that

1098
01:08:48,100 --> 01:08:52,700
that that would be bad, wouldn't
really fit in the way.

1099
01:08:52,700 --> 01:08:57,700
I would see her, how I would do
the magic or the small Sciences,

1100
01:08:58,500 --> 01:08:59,300
right.
Okay.

1101
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,600
By the only only thing that
would be different is I would

1102
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,700
say, because of the nature of
bagra and Alexander, that they

1103
01:09:06,700 --> 01:09:10,399
may have a little bit of
everything because that's

1104
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:13,200
probably why they can do the
Shadows.

1105
01:09:13,500 --> 01:09:16,300
Okay, is this kind of weird
aberration.

1106
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:22,300
You and I wouldn't be surprised
if Elena Elena could do things

1107
01:09:22,300 --> 01:09:28,100
like heal because of the kind of
Sumner, she is something that

1108
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:32,200
would just like this extraneous.
Rare thing, maybe assistant,

1109
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,899
they're just combinations of all
the other things together at

1110
01:09:36,899 --> 01:09:39,399
once.
Yes, I am saying, yeah, like I

1111
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:42,200
wouldn't be surprised if they
could do all those other things,

1112
01:09:42,500 --> 01:09:46,300
but I would be surprised if the
rats could do.

1113
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:48,600
Ringer is stuff like listen for
heartbeats.

1114
01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:50,700
Okay, anyway, we're in
Louisiana.

1115
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,300
Yeah, we are but that's okay
because that just that just

1116
01:09:53,300 --> 01:09:57,400
tells me that what I need to do
because it has been a while

1117
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,900
since I've read the book I do
want to go look that up and just

1118
01:10:00,900 --> 01:10:03,800
see, okay.
So how is it that the Grecian

1119
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:08,500
pow'rs work?
What, you know, what is it that

1120
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:12,700
each Grisha can do like are
there things that they can do

1121
01:10:12,700 --> 01:10:14,800
that are attributed to other
Grisha.

1122
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,000
So yeah.
We We'll go into that.

1123
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,100
I'm going to look that up, and
then we can discuss that further

1124
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,800
in a future episode.
But so anyway, you're calling

1125
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:32,800
her calling her angrily.
No, no, no.

1126
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:38,600
So, going back to the crows, and
Nina healing, and Edge, and all

1127
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:43,500
of this other stuff.
So, in Nash, basically makes it

1128
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:47,400
known that she is about to go on
this Mission and Cass does not

1129
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:51,700
look pleased about it, but like
she said, she was like, I'm not

1130
01:10:51,700 --> 01:10:54,500
here for you.
He looked so hurt when she said

1131
01:10:54,500 --> 01:10:57,000
that, she was like, I'm not here
for you.

1132
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,700
I'm here for the sun Summoner
and I'll buy my own passport.

1133
01:11:02,300 --> 01:11:07,100
He was.
But I'm telling you man, I'm

1134
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:13,100
cares, she's like an M&M what I
said right?

1135
01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:16,800
Not everything's the other
things that At our.

1136
01:11:17,300 --> 01:11:20,200
Well, there's one thing that's
funny in the same and that's the

1137
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:24,500
fact that and you see this
throughout the whole episode, I

1138
01:11:24,500 --> 01:11:28,000
think Nina and Toya are going to
be best friends because they

1139
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,400
always got some fucking food in
their mouth.

1140
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,900
They're always eating, they're
always enjoying themselves with

1141
01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:37,100
food and I just think it's the
funniest thing because people

1142
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:40,300
keep saying stuff to them or
giving them looks like they're

1143
01:11:40,300 --> 01:11:43,300
trying to embarrass them or
they're telling them, can you

1144
01:11:43,300 --> 01:11:45,000
please stop doing that?
Both of them looking at each

1145
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,400
other?
Like, Whatever.

1146
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,700
I'm about to sit here and enjoy
myself.

1147
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:58,200
The other thing is we find out
only by accident that while in

1148
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:03,200
is illiterate, And it's because
so bad about that.

1149
01:12:05,300 --> 01:12:08,300
That's almost like somebody out
in somebody for being gay is

1150
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:11,700
like, that's such a personal
thing for somebody, especially

1151
01:12:11,700 --> 01:12:16,100
somebody sold as smart as he is.
It's like, because you everybody

1152
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:20,100
can't do what he does, like he,
he can do stuff that, a lot of

1153
01:12:20,108 --> 01:12:23,100
people can't do, and it's even
more impressive, when you think

1154
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:26,000
about it, because he can't read.
Yeah, he learned all that, just

1155
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,900
by learning it and like, by not
reading it, it's like import.

1156
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,000
Jasper Jasper, like just it off
and comedies like oh fuck.

1157
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:39,500
Yeah and and it's like, the more
he keeps trying to, the more he

1158
01:12:39,500 --> 01:12:43,200
keep trying to make ya fix it
throughout the episode.

1159
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,500
It's almost like he just digs
the hole a little bit deeper and

1160
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:52,400
he's not doing it on purpose.
It's like, when you realize that

1161
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:56,000
about someone, sometimes it's
hard to know the right thing to

1162
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:01,800
say and what he thought was
really Something that, you know,

1163
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,500
he thought it was something that
was okay.

1164
01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:07,700
Like all the fact that you were
able to do this without being

1165
01:13:07,700 --> 01:13:10,400
able to read without you know
not saying it like that.

1166
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,000
You know that means you're
clever and smart and why Island

1167
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:17,200
who is probably heard.
There's so much in his life he

1168
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,700
kind of tasted as patronizing
and condescending and Jasper.

1169
01:13:21,700 --> 01:13:24,300
At one point, does not know how
to fix it.

1170
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:29,900
And then later on you kind of
see the thing in reverse because

1171
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,200
Cuz when Jesper since Weiland
down and he's just basically,

1172
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,200
like look, this is nothing to be
ashamed of it was like, oh,

1173
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,000
you're going to tell me how to
feel about my shame?

1174
01:13:40,100 --> 01:13:42,600
When you are hiding, the most
important thing about you and

1175
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,000
just for was lucky, he has a
smart.

1176
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,000
Well, my pretty face, I wouldn't
he was like, no, the fact that

1177
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,400
your Adder ass like you did
this, you did that.

1178
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,300
You you fixed your gun.
I've seen you shoot, you fix the

1179
01:13:55,300 --> 01:13:59,100
piano wire.
Why would you hide that?

1180
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:02,300
He was like yours.
Many Ximena always, you know

1181
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:05,500
they feel like being a Grisha is
being blessed.

1182
01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:09,800
Why would you hide that part in?
Jasper was like because it's not

1183
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,500
a blessing, it's a curse in you
don't know what it has cost me.

1184
01:14:12,900 --> 01:14:16,100
And I was like, oops and I think
it was one of those moments

1185
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:20,100
where while and was like, oh now
I know now I see how he's been

1186
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:24,200
feeling trying to you know, like
you you think you're saying

1187
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:28,000
something to someone that is a
compliment or that is to be a

1188
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:32,300
comfort or that is supposed to
make Them feel better like, hey,

1189
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,500
I see that you're a Grisha.
That's an awesome thing, you

1190
01:14:36,500 --> 01:14:38,400
should be proud of that and not
hide it.

1191
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,600
Oh, but guess what?
I lost because of that, we find

1192
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,900
that out later and I think it's
one of those things were wild

1193
01:14:44,900 --> 01:14:48,800
and is like, oh, so this is how
he's felt when he's been trying

1194
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,700
to compliment me and I've been
kind of biting his head off, so,

1195
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,000
you know, they walk into that
house with both of them, kind of

1196
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:02,100
on Shaky Ground but Even before
we get to that, we find out that

1197
01:15:02,300 --> 01:15:04,900
Miss Shayne your vests in the
temple.

1198
01:15:04,900 --> 01:15:08,800
Is a copy.
It's a fake they do find out or

1199
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:14,300
I should say cast, does find out
who has the real one or who may

1200
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:17,400
have the real one.
So apparently it's owned by

1201
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:22,000
someone called the disciple and
he has a fence that has you

1202
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,400
know, been listening some of his
personal collection.

1203
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:31,200
So their their plan is to me.
The fence, you know, Nina and

1204
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:35,200
Kaz, they pose as a married
couple, which is very funny to

1205
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,100
me various and in mashes Up on
the Roof.

1206
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:41,700
Trying to make sure that
everything goes okay, with this

1207
01:15:41,700 --> 01:15:47,200
fence, she ain't stupid at all,
but she realizes that they're

1208
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:51,000
thieves.
She realizes that, let's just

1209
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,900
say, I know a thief when I've
been around long enough to know

1210
01:15:53,900 --> 01:15:57,500
a thief, when I see if I've
worked with enough, Steve's to

1211
01:15:57,500 --> 01:16:03,600
no one But the interesting thing
about that, the whole start of

1212
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:08,700
that thing, one of the things
that I like is when they first

1213
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:13,000
get to the city, there is a
temple and I guess there's like

1214
01:16:13,900 --> 01:16:16,700
it's kind of like a day of
remembrance or Festival of

1215
01:16:16,700 --> 01:16:19,900
remembrance.
So you see Toya, you see and as

1216
01:16:19,900 --> 01:16:24,900
you see Zoya all standing at
this altar like thing, and

1217
01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:28,600
they're each saying their
prayers and remember Bring their

1218
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,900
loved ones in different ways
because they're all three from

1219
01:16:31,900 --> 01:16:35,500
different cultures.
And I love that they show that

1220
01:16:35,500 --> 01:16:39,800
like, yes, these three people
are from all all from different

1221
01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:41,500
walks of life, different
cultures.

1222
01:16:41,500 --> 01:16:46,000
They're all different types of
people but they have this one

1223
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:51,400
thing in common in common and
they can they can each do that

1224
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,600
and be respectful of the way.
The other person does it without

1225
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,400
it being a big deal.
I love that because we don't get

1226
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:03,000
that a lot in this.
This world, you know, again

1227
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,100
showing showing the inclusivity
that that young adult literature

1228
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:10,300
has which actually which
actually is pretty cool because

1229
01:17:10,300 --> 01:17:13,000
what a lot of shows that we
watch are based on why

1230
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,700
literature and a lot of like,
weevils black Miller time, for

1231
01:17:15,700 --> 01:17:19,700
example, has a lot of inclusion
in it, like land.

1232
01:17:19,700 --> 01:17:22,300
And that just is, that's really
cool.

1233
01:17:22,300 --> 01:17:26,800
Because it shows that that young
adults actually want that as far

1234
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,000
as what they're reading it.
It's like they want to see stuff

1235
01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:33,500
in the stuff in Reading their
literature like they want to see

1236
01:17:33,500 --> 01:17:35,300
in the world so I think that's
pretty cool.

1237
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:40,900
Yeah, yeah.
But when Nana and K as they go

1238
01:17:40,900 --> 01:17:46,700
to meet this, the fence one of
the things that cast does at the

1239
01:17:46,708 --> 01:17:48,200
beginning, he tells them.
Okay.

1240
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,200
So this is how we find her.
We have to go to this particular

1241
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,100
tea shop.
We have to order this particular

1242
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:57,100
T off-menu.
That's how she will know that we

1243
01:17:57,100 --> 01:17:59,100
are there for a purpose.
Particular thing.

1244
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:06,700
And the funny thing is Nina is
neither is hell a literate and

1245
01:18:06,700 --> 01:18:09,200
she speak?
I don't, I can't remember how

1246
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,500
we'll just did she say she
speaks is she she's probably see

1247
01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:17,400
all of them, right?
Because she ordered she was she

1248
01:18:17,500 --> 01:18:21,500
shows that she can order the T
in the Chute language and Tall

1249
01:18:21,500 --> 01:18:24,400
your kind of perks up and he
starts talking to her and shoe.

1250
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,700
She's like, yes, tell me more.
I was like yeah they're going to

1251
01:18:26,708 --> 01:18:28,700
be best friends.
They're That they're going to

1252
01:18:28,700 --> 01:18:32,600
eat all the time and they're
gonna sit there and and do the

1253
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,200
fighting and doing the
translate.

1254
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,200
Like I can see her and told
you're being very good friends.

1255
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:40,300
Yeah.
Like shouts shouts and sell to

1256
01:18:40,300 --> 01:18:43,200
Nina being a total foodie.
They say I wonder if it's going

1257
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,800
to have what does he's going to
have like floral notes?

1258
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:51,500
Or there's a dance is like if
you drink it.

1259
01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:57,900
It's tea, she says she sent me.
Of course, she's a food because

1260
01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:01,700
she eats all the damn time, so
it's like she knows exactly what

1261
01:19:01,700 --> 01:19:04,600
everything tastes like, cuz she
eats everything, right?

1262
01:19:04,900 --> 01:19:08,300
Right.
But it's one of those things

1263
01:19:08,300 --> 01:19:13,400
where you remember watching this
scene now, where Nina and Kaz

1264
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,700
are meeting with the fence and
they have this custom.

1265
01:19:17,700 --> 01:19:20,200
When you drink tea, you know,
you touch your fingertip to the

1266
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,800
T, you touch your forehead, you
flick, you flick the Extra

1267
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:28,100
moisture off and then you touch
your forehead and Nina does it?

1268
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,300
No problem cats?
However, it does not.

1269
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,100
And she kind of calls Kaz out on
it.

1270
01:19:35,100 --> 01:19:39,400
She was like, so, again Nina
introduce them as husband and

1271
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,500
wife she was like so does your
husband have a problem with my

1272
01:19:42,500 --> 01:19:46,000
countries cultures or my
cultures customs?

1273
01:19:46,300 --> 01:19:51,400
And I was like, okay Kaz you're
you're about to be looked at as

1274
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:59,300
being our equivalent of a bigot
or racist or you know whatever

1275
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,700
you better do the damn thing.
And when Nina kind of presses

1276
01:20:03,700 --> 01:20:08,600
him about it, he takes off his
gloves and he does the thing and

1277
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,500
you can see and he does that
extra flick with the water.

1278
01:20:11,900 --> 01:20:14,200
I was like, yeah he don't want
none of this shit touching him,

1279
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,200
none of it.
I mean, chefs out to him for for

1280
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,000
sucking it up and doing it and
not doing it with the glove on

1281
01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:24,800
and be like.
I half expected him to do it

1282
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:29,300
with the glove one to be like,
but because that that would have

1283
01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:30,500
been.
Yeah, I think that would have

1284
01:20:30,500 --> 01:20:34,700
been disrespectful to the
culture and like Nina said we

1285
01:20:34,700 --> 01:20:39,500
came all this way for this like
I don't know what your issue is

1286
01:20:39,500 --> 01:20:43,500
but you need to fix it.
Now what I do realize is that in

1287
01:20:43,500 --> 01:20:47,100
this scene once we see what
happens in Nash is fully aware

1288
01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:53,800
of what his His issue is because
what happens is once she

1289
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:58,100
realizes that they are thieves.
She signals, I guess one of her

1290
01:20:58,100 --> 01:21:03,000
servant girls and when cast gets
up the woman, waist tea on him.

1291
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,600
And of course, he starts
flashing back to the water, he

1292
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,800
turns around, and he's on the
table, he's like

1293
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:13,000
hyperventilating and Nina grabs
his hand, and she was like,

1294
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,700
Brecker just breathe.
When she touches his hand, he

1295
01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:19,600
has the flashback to when he's
touching the Everybody on the

1296
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:23,800
barge, he panics he runs and he
starts bumping into people and

1297
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,200
every time somebody touches him,
you kind of see those flashes go

1298
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,300
in and out of his mind and then
all of a sudden, you see an ash

1299
01:21:31,300 --> 01:21:35,400
pulling him into an Alleyway.
And she sits him down and she

1300
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:40,600
backs off real quick.
And he turns and he sees her and

1301
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,800
it's almost like he gets
embarrassed and almost in the

1302
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,300
same breath.
He gets upset, you were supposed

1303
01:21:47,300 --> 01:21:50,600
to tell her.
She was like I couldn't leave

1304
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:55,900
you not like this and then she
puts his gloves next to him and

1305
01:21:55,900 --> 01:21:58,600
she and she leaves.
So I was like, oh okay.

1306
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,000
So she is aware of what his what
his triggers are.

1307
01:22:02,700 --> 01:22:06,500
And again I think Anthony you
were the one who said it if she

1308
01:22:06,500 --> 01:22:11,700
pays half as much attention to
him as he pays to her, she

1309
01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:14,500
probably knew it and just never
said anything because if he's

1310
01:22:14,500 --> 01:22:16,500
not going to say anything why
would you bring it up?

1311
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,600
You know.
But she knew enough to Like oh

1312
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,100
shit.
I need to go help him and she

1313
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:23,700
got, she got him out of that
crowd.

1314
01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:27,500
She got him in a place where he
could kind of collect himself

1315
01:22:27,500 --> 01:22:29,600
because he had a complete freak
out.

1316
01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:33,800
Oh my God.
Yeah, we completely, like, we

1317
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:39,900
never seen him like that ever.
And I know that definitely and,

1318
01:22:39,900 --> 01:22:43,700
you know, him in the clinical
world, you realize that he has a

1319
01:22:43,700 --> 01:22:48,400
serious serious problem because
it will totally interfere with

1320
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:54,300
his Day-to-day life, mmm-hmm.
Like those gloves are his

1321
01:22:54,300 --> 01:22:56,100
crutch.
Hmm, yeah.

1322
01:22:56,300 --> 01:22:58,500
Yeah.
I mean, just like Laura said in

1323
01:22:58,500 --> 01:23:01,100
the last episode 2, she was
like, she was like a pecker

1324
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:04,100
Rollins knew that about cast.
So she could have killed, he

1325
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:08,100
could have killed him easy any
number?

1326
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,400
Yeah, any number of people, as
they even had an inkling that he

1327
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:16,000
was like that they would have
removed him years ago, but see,

1328
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,900
here's the other problem with
that.

1329
01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:22,400
He's putting himself out there
because For the first time in a

1330
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,500
long time, You know, it's not
just a job anymore.

1331
01:23:24,500 --> 01:23:28,900
They want to actually help so as
he interacts more and more with

1332
01:23:28,900 --> 01:23:32,200
people, and not just the crows
and not just keter.

1333
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:36,100
Damn, maybe he'll start to come
out of it a little bit more.

1334
01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:39,600
He has interaction with people
because sometimes, if you're

1335
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,600
stuck in the same area, the same
people, the same thing, whatever

1336
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:48,500
phobia you have intensifies, but
as you get away from it may be a

1337
01:23:48,508 --> 01:23:51,600
different environment can help.
So he might actually without

1338
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,000
thinking about it, get better.
Better down the line.

1339
01:23:55,900 --> 01:24:01,500
I mean, does that make sense?
It does and it's like I you know

1340
01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:04,800
I just kind of wonder what
therapy is like in this world

1341
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,900
because he definitely needs
that.

1342
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:14,500
I don't think it it doesn't
exist food and wine and maybe an

1343
01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:17,000
opinion, maybe the confidence of
good friends.

1344
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:21,600
I you know we're kind of
confidence.

1345
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,100
You talking about you talking
about I'm talking about like,

1346
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:27,800
Jasper, Mesh like what you're
talking about.

1347
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,300
I thought some out the Menagerie
you know those confidence of

1348
01:24:31,300 --> 01:24:36,400
those do because now because if
cats can't even if he if he is

1349
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:41,900
to the point where he struggles
to even just touch and mash with

1350
01:24:41,900 --> 01:24:45,200
a cloth so that he can help
clean up a womb.

1351
01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:48,900
You best believe Cass.
Cass has never been intimate

1352
01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:50,900
with anybody.
I can I can probably tell you

1353
01:24:50,900 --> 01:24:58,800
that without a fact.
Oh no specific.

1354
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:01,800
Okay no, no, yeah.
I know some people probably do

1355
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:05,800
go to the Menagerie for, you
know, whatever ails them but you

1356
01:25:05,900 --> 01:25:08,300
did not.
Didn't someone say that before

1357
01:25:08,300 --> 01:25:10,100
in this show.
I don't know if I'm confusing my

1358
01:25:10,100 --> 01:25:14,300
shows but they guys are just go
to those places just to talk

1359
01:25:14,300 --> 01:25:17,800
sometimes and that's how a lot
of these guys get their

1360
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:24,100
information.
A lot of the people like the

1361
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:25,600
woman who was in charge of the
money.

1362
01:25:25,700 --> 01:25:27,800
Sorry, I can't remember her
name, constantly.

1363
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,500
Remember she had a lot of
influence because you probably

1364
01:25:31,500 --> 01:25:35,200
use some stuff and the same
thing with Pekka Rollins.

1365
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,800
You know, you kind of learn
things about people when they're

1366
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,400
in those places because there is
a little bit of therapy that

1367
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,100
goes on.
This is a person I can talk to

1368
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,200
in the quiet of this place and I
have to worry about it.

1369
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:52,100
Going anywhere else, right?
So, this is something repea.

1370
01:25:52,300 --> 01:25:54,800
Yeah, it's just like the
champagne room in a strip club.

1371
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,100
There's also I would know
anything about that.

1372
01:25:59,300 --> 01:26:03,000
There's also monasteries,
there's also religious places

1373
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,100
where if you're feel comfortable
enough, maybe they can go and

1374
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:09,000
talk that might be their type of
therapy that they have in that

1375
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,300
world is a monastery religious
order.

1376
01:26:11,300 --> 01:26:12,900
Yeah.
Well, the convent, we just go to

1377
01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:19,600
the convent and do what you do
it not or brick you into a cell

1378
01:26:19,900 --> 01:26:24,000
and stuff like that and all her
stuff but that that that would

1379
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,200
probably be the only time.
Of therapy that they probably

1380
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:32,000
have, unless they go to
different areas other than where

1381
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,800
they're at.
And maybe find that there's like

1382
01:26:34,900 --> 01:26:38,800
meditative practices somewhere
else, or there's a different

1383
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,200
approach.
I mean, I don't think that he

1384
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:45,800
can go do yoga to, to chill out.
Okay, let's just put it that

1385
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,400
way.
Yeah, yeah.

1386
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,800
But okay, we're running law.
So let's get to it.

1387
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:57,800
Let's get to the important part.
So of course, they have tracked

1388
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,100
the fence to our house.
They know where her routine is

1389
01:27:01,100 --> 01:27:02,600
going to be like for the
evening.

1390
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,800
So what they decide to do is
Nina and Zoya have to team up,

1391
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,000
they're going to track her, make
sure she doesn't go back home.

1392
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:16,000
Jesper wildin Kaz, Toya and
Dinesh.

1393
01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:19,300
They're going to go to the home
to try to steal the sword

1394
01:27:19,300 --> 01:27:21,900
because they believe that's
where she has it.

1395
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:30,100
So they break into the home.
And the home is booby-trapped.

1396
01:27:30,500 --> 01:27:34,900
It's a tribe.
They get stuck in the house and

1397
01:27:34,900 --> 01:27:39,900
there's a gas there that
basically knocks them out.

1398
01:27:40,500 --> 01:27:44,600
It causes hallucinations and it
is killing them.

1399
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:52,300
Now the triple whammy and IQ out
hallucinations and is killing

1400
01:27:52,300 --> 01:27:54,300
you.
I mean, Alicia, well, I guess

1401
01:27:54,300 --> 01:27:57,900
depending on the loose Nation,
either die really happy or

1402
01:27:57,900 --> 01:28:02,600
really badly either.
I mean, you know, you have a

1403
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,800
good, a good whose Nation or a
bad trip.

1404
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:10,300
So, let's talk about these
hallucinations and toys sits

1405
01:28:10,300 --> 01:28:12,400
down and starts doing breathing
exercises.

1406
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,200
It kind of reminded me of Harlem
Nights when Danny Aiello has

1407
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,000
character was in Say they were
like take deep, take little

1408
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:27,500
bitty breast like calm.
Yeah, the rest of them are

1409
01:28:27,500 --> 01:28:30,700
having some issues though
because like, yeah, triple

1410
01:28:30,700 --> 01:28:36,300
whammy but before all of that,
we are talked about the fact

1411
01:28:36,300 --> 01:28:42,400
that she got the drop on Nina.
And I was sitting here looking

1412
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,100
at.
This is hand like if you kill me

1413
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:46,200
now, I'm coming through this TV
for you.

1414
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,700
Me too.
I was like Nina and Zoya are

1415
01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:56,400
tracking her through the market
and they don't want to be

1416
01:28:56,500 --> 01:29:02,100
working together as it is, so
Zaya takes off and she's

1417
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:04,600
tracking the lady.
First of all, I was like Zoila,

1418
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:09,100
you're not being subtle enough.
Like anybody with half a brain

1419
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:12,600
would be able to tell that
somebody is following them and

1420
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,600
she comes around the corner and
old chick is gone.

1421
01:29:15,700 --> 01:29:18,300
I was like, yeah.
Y'all back to being.

1422
01:29:18,700 --> 01:29:21,400
Yeah, about to be fucked up.
I was not expecting.

1423
01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:25,000
Her to get the drop on them, the
way she did.

1424
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:31,000
I was like, oh, this bitch can
fight like there has to be

1425
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:37,800
something more to who she is,
because you have the house tract

1426
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,500
which yes, that could be because
of the sword.

1427
01:29:40,900 --> 01:29:44,600
But I was also starting to feel
like, okay.

1428
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:49,400
Is she the disciple?
Because she knew that she was

1429
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,800
being followed.
She probably knew they were

1430
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,400
coming to her house that night,
especially if she had already.

1431
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,300
Deduced, that they were fees.
She was probably expecting them

1432
01:29:59,300 --> 01:30:01,100
like oh okay.
They're about to try this.

1433
01:30:01,100 --> 01:30:02,000
Yeah.
Okay.

1434
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,500
Well, she knew that they were
going to try to follow her to

1435
01:30:04,500 --> 01:30:08,600
find out where she lives or
whatever, the tracker the see

1436
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:12,600
where she's, you know, you
didn't take anyone with half a

1437
01:30:12,608 --> 01:30:17,100
brain and her situation to
realize, you know, to be able to

1438
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:20,700
pick out a person following you.
Mmm.

1439
01:30:20,900 --> 01:30:23,500
Right.
Especially if it's somebody that

1440
01:30:24,500 --> 01:30:29,700
y'all are in a city that you've
never been to you probably stand

1441
01:30:29,700 --> 01:30:33,500
out, and she probably has
contacts all around that City.

1442
01:30:33,500 --> 01:30:39,100
Like, yo, they're over here that
way if we will see an employee

1443
01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:41,100
of the disciple.
And if you want to talk to the

1444
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:42,700
disciple, you have to go through
her.

1445
01:30:43,100 --> 01:30:46,000
Then she's probably going to be
a force to be reckoned with.

1446
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:50,900
It is very sad for the trust her
enough to do that or to be You

1447
01:30:50,900 --> 01:30:54,800
know, the gatekeeper if she's
already proven that, she's very

1448
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:58,600
insightful by being able to tell
that they are that they weren't

1449
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,800
married at first and no one
knowing that they were full of

1450
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:02,500
shit.
Initially, there's like, you

1451
01:31:02,500 --> 01:31:05,100
know, that there's, you know,
that she's going to be paying

1452
01:31:05,100 --> 01:31:07,900
attention to every to her
surroundings at every moment.

1453
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:12,800
So there's like, nope.
If you look a calf and you look

1454
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,600
at Mila, you know, those two
motherfuckers is not Mary.

1455
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,800
What did she say?
I always thought courage.

1456
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,800
People were a little more
affectionate.

1457
01:31:21,300 --> 01:31:26,000
No nina was like oh but when
we're alone, he's all hands.

1458
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:39,300
Aren't you waffles?
But I tell you he's looking like

1459
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:42,400
a decrepit.
Old man fitting their proof.

1460
01:31:42,900 --> 01:31:44,500
Do!
Y'all are not Mary?

1461
01:31:44,500 --> 01:31:48,900
I'm so sorry.
When he's got bruising on his

1462
01:31:48,900 --> 01:31:52,500
face and that doesn't help like
he already looks mean.

1463
01:31:52,600 --> 01:32:00,000
It would have been better if he
was taught to Toya and her then

1464
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,200
you could do.
They might be married, you know?

1465
01:32:02,500 --> 01:32:06,500
Yeah, yeah, I can see that,
especially considering how well

1466
01:32:06,500 --> 01:32:10,300
we see they get along so far the
chemistry like, literally, From

1467
01:32:10,300 --> 01:32:14,600
the moment, those two groups met
she was like, oh God, he was

1468
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,400
sharing food with her and she's
taking my shoes like.

1469
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:25,900
All right, dried squid.
Before I feel God, my God, he's

1470
01:32:25,900 --> 01:32:27,800
gonna kill me.
I've given away all my dried

1471
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,300
squid, I really do.
Yeah, that's okay.

1472
01:32:30,300 --> 01:32:34,300
He's for me, he's formulating
friendships, I'm telling you him

1473
01:32:34,300 --> 01:32:35,700
and Nina.
They're going to be besties.

1474
01:32:36,100 --> 01:32:39,700
I feel it in my soul.
But yeah.

1475
01:32:39,700 --> 01:32:43,500
So anyway, like I said, the
fence Koval is her name.

1476
01:32:43,500 --> 01:32:47,800
She gets the drop on Nina, but
Zoya comes to the rescue a

1477
01:32:47,808 --> 01:32:57,700
little bit late now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1478
01:32:58,500 --> 01:33:01,900
But I mean it works.
She's okay.

1479
01:33:02,300 --> 01:33:05,800
Now they just have to go find
Kaz and I'm a rescue down

1480
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:10,000
because like I said there's a
there's a very Were in the air?

1481
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:11,100
Yeah.
Oh sad.

1482
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:14,900
No hazama pass out.
I wonder how many motherfuckers

1483
01:33:14,900 --> 01:33:17,300
Nina has killed by pretending to
be dead?

1484
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:20,900
Yeah, I mean like you think you
got her?

1485
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:23,600
Oh, you're a spy.
You started choking her out or

1486
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:25,500
she's dead.
You turn your back in the next

1487
01:33:25,500 --> 01:33:29,400
thing in there.
Yeah, here the afterlife.

1488
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,700
Yeah, you might don't sleep on
the other people, you feeny's

1489
01:33:33,700 --> 01:33:38,100
all nice and cuddly and cute,
but I don't lose by for carrying

1490
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:40,100
a hoot.
That she murdered

1491
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,900
the same.
But anyway, the last the last

1492
01:33:53,900 --> 01:33:58,300
thing that we see in the episode
is when everyone starts passing

1493
01:33:58,300 --> 01:34:03,200
out at the house passes last one
fall and when he falls backwards

1494
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,700
to the floor, we see him Splash
into some water.

1495
01:34:06,700 --> 01:34:08,800
And that's when I said
hallucination.

1496
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:13,700
Yes, he's pulled out of the
water by his brother.

1497
01:34:14,300 --> 01:34:17,300
His brother was like, did you
think that was it?

1498
01:34:17,300 --> 01:34:19,400
Did you think I'd go away so
easily?

1499
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:21,900
Do you think you were going to
get out of this so easily?

1500
01:34:21,900 --> 01:34:24,700
And he pushes cast back into the
water.

1501
01:34:24,700 --> 01:34:28,700
And then the episode goes off, I
was like, oh, so we were talking

1502
01:34:28,700 --> 01:34:32,800
about Kaz and his trauma.
This is not going to do anything

1503
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,500
to help.
If anything, this is about to

1504
01:34:36,500 --> 01:34:41,700
make it ten times worse.
Sit back, man.

1505
01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:45,000
It's not like he's been making
progress.

1506
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:53,800
So I would say it's been a
little bit of progress just

1507
01:34:53,800 --> 01:35:00,300
because You know, him admitting
to Jasper or Jesper.

1508
01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:03,600
Putting the idea out there,
that, oh, you were going to say

1509
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,300
that you can do this job without
me and that, you know, we like

1510
01:35:06,300 --> 01:35:08,700
brothers and brothers sometimes
fight, but at the end of the

1511
01:35:08,700 --> 01:35:11,200
day, we have each other's backs
and calves was like, yep.

1512
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,700
That's what I was.
But that didn't require any

1513
01:35:13,700 --> 01:35:16,000
tension.
It's not as well.

1514
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:19,200
Let's see, that's good.
I don't think the touching is

1515
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:22,900
the only thing that he needs to
work through him, opening up to

1516
01:35:22,900 --> 01:35:25,000
people him.
Getting close to people him.

1517
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,600
Just letting his guard down a
little.

1518
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,600
We didn't see a lot of that in
season 1.

1519
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:35,700
And I feel like we're starting
to see a little bit of that and

1520
01:35:35,700 --> 01:35:40,400
season to Granite is not by
choice, I don't think, but the

1521
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:45,300
fact that he is showing some
vulnerability to his crows, I

1522
01:35:45,300 --> 01:35:49,300
think that is progress.
Even though it may not be a

1523
01:35:49,308 --> 01:35:54,200
progress that he's initiating,
it is there and it's giving them

1524
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:58,900
the opportunity.
Help him because Kaz also is not

1525
01:35:58,900 --> 01:36:00,800
the type of person who's going
to ask for help.

1526
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:08,900
Well, he's not going to make any
progress in any like that is a

1527
01:36:08,907 --> 01:36:14,400
little bit of cognitive, but if
he can get himself to

1528
01:36:14,500 --> 01:36:19,800
emotionally, open up to people,
it might lead to him, being able

1529
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:23,200
to touch people.
I don't think that's possible.

1530
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,400
I think the only thing he is
speaking, you know, no only

1531
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,000
thing is going to work for him
as exposure.

1532
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:34,800
He's going to have to be exposed
to touching people and until he

1533
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:38,300
does that he's really could have
a hard time opening up to people

1534
01:36:38,308 --> 01:36:44,000
because it's like turning his
back on and there's he wants

1535
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,200
her.
He can't look at her when she's

1536
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:51,900
like that because he wants to
touch her like he can emote with

1537
01:36:51,900 --> 01:36:53,900
her.
All he wants to but as long as

1538
01:36:53,900 --> 01:36:58,700
he's not You long as he has an
aversion to touching people.

1539
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:03,700
He's not going to let people in
any further than me already.

1540
01:37:03,900 --> 01:37:09,200
Yeah, like, you know he can see
those things to to Mom just for

1541
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:12,000
desperate but he's not going to
give him a big sloppy hug and a

1542
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,000
kiss is this is not going to
happen.

1543
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,100
Yeah.
Yeah you can't even look at it

1544
01:37:16,108 --> 01:37:18,400
and there's she saw a little bit
of Flesh.

1545
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:23,700
He can't because his urge to
touch her is like really really

1546
01:37:23,700 --> 01:37:25,300
a problem for him.
Yeah.

1547
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:30,900
Yeah, and and I don't, I don't
even know if cognitive therapy

1548
01:37:30,900 --> 01:37:35,100
work for him because he's his
intelligence level is too high.

1549
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:37,900
You just have to throw him and
make him strip down and throw

1550
01:37:37,900 --> 01:37:42,300
him in a room full of bodies.
And people will arrive them and

1551
01:37:42,300 --> 01:37:46,300
just force him to.
Now, that's, that's not how the

1552
01:37:46,300 --> 01:37:52,200
I like have to do a little bit
of the time, like, we have to

1553
01:37:52,500 --> 01:37:55,900
cut out little holes in the
fingertips of the glow.

1554
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,400
Of freaking touch people and we
work from there.

1555
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:03,000
Yeah.
Ain't no cutting holes.

1556
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:07,500
You guys start with one?
No I'm you don't have to start

1557
01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:13,200
with one and a half to be the
smallest hole to allow for the

1558
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:16,700
least amount of 44 and the with
therapy in him.

1559
01:38:16,700 --> 01:38:21,400
But or we have to him, Miss
gloves, and we have to start

1560
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:25,800
them off with a really fine Miss
and as we go along.

1561
01:38:25,900 --> 01:38:28,400
Along.
We're going to do a larger and

1562
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:32,500
larger mesh because at least he
will still have the feeling that

1563
01:38:32,500 --> 01:38:35,500
he has gloves on, so we have to
do that.

1564
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:41,200
Yeah, but, yeah, cash, he
definitely needs some serum,

1565
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:44,000
he's really gonna need it after.
After them, a little bit of

1566
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,800
cognitive therapy, we will have
to throw a little bit

1567
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,700
cognitively.
Really exposures probably going

1568
01:38:48,700 --> 01:38:50,900
to be the best friend.
Yeah, this will guide him in the

1569
01:38:50,900 --> 01:38:53,500
situation is probably the only
way we're gonna get him out.

1570
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:55,800
Yeah, that's true.
Hmm.

1571
01:38:57,100 --> 01:39:02,600
Oh okay, so we can hit shrink as
in the next episode because I

1572
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:06,200
know that's good.
If that's how you start out

1573
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:09,400
this.
This hallucination, that's not

1574
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:13,300
good.
And not at all, not at all

1575
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,300
because in, there's PTSD,
throwing them are too bad.

1576
01:39:16,300 --> 01:39:21,100
That's that just compounds the
issue and now your dead brother

1577
01:39:21,100 --> 01:39:25,100
speaking to you, like oh you
thought you thought you were

1578
01:39:25,100 --> 01:39:27,400
going to get away from.
Me, you thought it was going to

1579
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,800
be this easy?
No.

1580
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:35,300
Like and fix them in the wall.
I was like Kansas is going to be

1581
01:39:35,300 --> 01:39:37,600
so much more fucked up after
this.

1582
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:42,400
Like so now we then then we're
gonna have to also give him some

1583
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:47,500
coping skills to deal with the
PTSD to just, he's got a lot

1584
01:39:47,500 --> 01:39:50,200
going on.
I just want to wrap him in

1585
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,800
bubble wrap and then give him a
hug because he needs it.

1586
01:39:54,600 --> 01:40:00,100
He really does.
And like I said it's so weird

1587
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:05,200
seeing Freddy Carter played this
character so well the way that

1588
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:09,600
he does because every time I see
him on a video he's laughing and

1589
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:11,700
smiling.
Like I just I just finished

1590
01:40:11,700 --> 01:40:15,400
watching before we started
recording, they released the

1591
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,600
season to blooper reel, on the
Instagram Channel, and he's just

1592
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:23,300
laughing and smiling and making
jokes.

1593
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:26,300
And it's just yeah.
Yeah.

1594
01:40:28,300 --> 01:40:32,100
Wrap my calves up in some bubble
wrap and just protect him at all

1595
01:40:32,100 --> 01:40:35,100
costs.
Yeah, he's so cool.

1596
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:38,800
And I love how you use this like
way different than he really is.

1597
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:44,400
Like as far as like being being
who he is and being cast as like

1598
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:46,300
those are two entirely different
people.

1599
01:40:46,700 --> 01:40:49,700
Hmm.
Yes it's amazing.

1600
01:40:49,700 --> 01:40:53,200
So because Jasper's basically
the same person in real life in

1601
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:58,400
and he really is he's just
exactly the same while into Here

1602
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,400
meets assuming is different from
an edge.

1603
01:41:02,700 --> 01:41:05,100
Because where's the nearest kind
of?

1604
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:09,600
I won't say she's hard.
But yeah, in a sense she is hard

1605
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:16,900
and she's very, she's not very,
not a very happy person because

1606
01:41:16,900 --> 01:41:19,000
she has this, you know, she's
basically she's afraid.

1607
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,900
She's an assassin.
She deals with all this serious

1608
01:41:21,900 --> 01:41:24,100
stuff and amides assumed as she
is.

1609
01:41:24,100 --> 01:41:27,900
So funny in real life is she's
also one of those people she

1610
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,700
Gets very, she is embarrassed
very easily.

1611
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,000
She's always doing this.
When people are talking to her

1612
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,700
when she gets a compliment like
she gets like, she's so sweet.

1613
01:41:37,700 --> 01:41:39,600
So it's like, yes, it's
interesting.

1614
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:43,000
Watching them in real life and
then seeing them on the show.

1615
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,900
Like wow, y'all are asking your
asses off for real.

1616
01:41:47,900 --> 01:41:51,700
So I'm sorry.
Sad note for those listeners who

1617
01:41:51,700 --> 01:41:54,600
are in the therapy thing, I'm
not a therapist.

1618
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:59,800
I do know the exposure and
cognitive He are used for PTSD.

1619
01:42:00,100 --> 01:42:04,700
It's just that I think his
phobia of the touching we can't

1620
01:42:04,700 --> 01:42:06,700
have to do with that as a
serpent issue.

1621
01:42:06,900 --> 01:42:07,900
Yeah.
Yeah.

1622
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:12,100
We're going to do the exposure
and cognitive therapy to work

1623
01:42:12,100 --> 01:42:16,200
through all of that.
The poor child the same.

1624
01:42:16,700 --> 01:42:18,900
It's going to make sure I don't
want people to think.

1625
01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:20,500
I don't know what I'm talking
about.

1626
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:25,800
Right.
Oh yeah.

1627
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,000
I have any other thoughts on
this episode.

1628
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,700
That was a lot.
There's a lot going on.

1629
01:42:31,700 --> 01:42:34,200
There's a lot.
Like, after the first two

1630
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:36,500
episodes, they have been zipping
along.

1631
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:40,200
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not
gonna lie, the rule of the

1632
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:44,700
fourth episode and now we're in
the five has helped out the show

1633
01:42:44,700 --> 01:42:48,100
because I was, will be worried
episodes one to him.

1634
01:42:48,300 --> 01:42:50,800
And, and most of the three, I
was really worried about your

1635
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:52,800
show.
I was really trying to figure

1636
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:56,500
out how I was going to make.
Oh yeah, we didn't talk about

1637
01:42:56,500 --> 01:43:01,100
Pekka.
Oh yes, you're right.

1638
01:43:02,500 --> 01:43:07,600
Pekka, he is a hell, yeah.
He's, yeah, he's Alpha you

1639
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:11,800
through.
I think it's interesting that

1640
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:15,700
now, you are a prisoner in in
the prison where you were

1641
01:43:15,700 --> 01:43:17,600
controlling and paying off the
guards.

1642
01:43:19,900 --> 01:43:21,400
All that's about to pay off that
now.

1643
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:27,400
Yeah, because he comes into the
ring or not the ring.

1644
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:30,000
They do have a fight but it's
not the rain.

1645
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,000
He comes to the center of
whatever.

1646
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:37,200
This this law area is and
Mattias is roommate.

1647
01:43:37,900 --> 01:43:39,800
Comes out and holds his hand
out.

1648
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,000
Like he's welcoming Pekka.
We caught, because of cellmates,

1649
01:43:44,100 --> 01:43:47,900
that's my roommate.
Yeah.

1650
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:03,800
Okay.
So when Steals and 11 steals the

1651
01:44:09,500 --> 01:44:15,200
summit Isis, cellmates comes
out, holds out his hand to Pekka

1652
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:19,400
because the guards have just,
I'm like the Guards that you pay

1653
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:24,900
are now throwing you face down
on the ground like oh yeah, oh

1654
01:44:24,900 --> 01:44:27,000
how the mighty have fallen
right?

1655
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:31,400
Supposedly.
So when he pulls him up, he has,

1656
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:37,100
is it a rock that he's like,
holding something up against

1657
01:44:37,100 --> 01:44:41,200
Pekka's neck and he's telling
everyone like oh my brother

1658
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:45,200
Damien which is, which was his
previous cell, mate?

1659
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:49,600
You know fell.
Because of the orders of this

1660
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,400
guy.
So basically, he has an ax to

1661
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:55,300
grind with Pekka, which most of
the people in that prison

1662
01:44:55,300 --> 01:44:59,400
probably do, but Pekka lets it
be known real quick.

1663
01:44:59,500 --> 01:45:03,600
I ain't the one.
He pushes that dude on the

1664
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:07,500
ground, he picks up the rock
that he had puts it in a guess

1665
01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:09,000
at there was a pillowcase out
there.

1666
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:14,600
Something he starts bashing but
he's brain in, bashing his face

1667
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:18,400
in and then when he's done with
The Rock, he finishes Off With

1668
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:22,100
His Hands.
He gets up and he was like I'm

1669
01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:26,200
just letting y'all know.
I a Corrales I am not about to

1670
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:28,500
get killed by some random ass
fool.

1671
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:33,500
It was like y'all can either
work for me or I'll kill you.

1672
01:45:33,500 --> 01:45:36,100
You decide how you want this to
play out.

1673
01:45:36,300 --> 01:45:39,300
Now the other prisoners are
holding Mattias back because

1674
01:45:39,300 --> 01:45:41,700
he's trying to help his
cellmate.

1675
01:45:42,100 --> 01:45:46,600
And once the fighting is over,
he goes over to the guy.

1676
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:52,800
And when I tell you, I was like
I just got a good look at his

1677
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:55,500
face.
When I watched it again tonight.

1678
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:59,300
I didn't realize that his I was
closed up to the point, but you

1679
01:45:59,300 --> 01:46:02,400
can still see the inside of his
eye because it was just that it

1680
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:08,600
was, I was I was like, okay,
this is like maybe almost on the

1681
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:15,200
level of Walking Dead Glenn when
he got his face smashed in But

1682
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:18,400
Mattias is trying to get a
doctor to do was like, nope, he

1683
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,600
was like, don't do this.
He was like, what did he say?

1684
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:27,100
Make sure I'm very under, the
roots of ash tree, so that jail

1685
01:46:27,100 --> 01:46:30,000
will accept me.
And he said, you have to live

1686
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:34,300
your life for you.
You have to, you have to make it

1687
01:46:34,308 --> 01:46:35,700
count.
Basically, telling the sighs.

1688
01:46:35,700 --> 01:46:40,500
Look don't get stuck in here.
Figure out what you need to do

1689
01:46:40,500 --> 01:46:45,600
and do it. and the look that
Mattias gives pecker at the end

1690
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:51,300
of that I was like this should
be some shit cuz he about to go

1691
01:46:51,300 --> 01:46:54,600
after Pekka.
He's not, he's not going to go

1692
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:57,000
out to pick it and then taking
that going to mess with him

1693
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:58,800
because picking them want that
smoke.

1694
01:46:59,700 --> 01:47:02,800
But pakka has to pecker, has two
other people in the in the

1695
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:07,600
prison behind the Vives.
Watch this motherfucker with the

1696
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:11,200
cannibals ass.
So then I gonna fuck with him

1697
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,500
either.
Like, we like you're picking.

1698
01:47:13,500 --> 01:47:15,300
Yeah.
You did not pick a bit.

1699
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,100
We're not about to jump this
dude over here.

1700
01:47:18,300 --> 01:47:21,400
You can, you know, he's, he's
good at long.

1701
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:23,500
See a mess with us.
We're good.

1702
01:47:23,500 --> 01:47:27,200
I think pink is going to have
to, if pick who's gonna have a

1703
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,400
problem with him, which he
really shouldn't.

1704
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,300
Other than, I mean, that was a
cellmate.

1705
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,900
Oh, no, he's gonna have a
problem with them because you

1706
01:47:35,900 --> 01:47:44,700
have to remember, Pekka knows
who Mattias is Lena, matthijs is

1707
01:47:44,700 --> 01:47:53,200
a new pic, is he significance?
Mattias ain't I'm saying, I

1708
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:58,600
don't understand about my tiger,
he from his proof from his

1709
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,700
perspective.
You didn't really is not much of

1710
01:48:01,700 --> 01:48:04,100
anything.
Now, Peckham me be thinking,

1711
01:48:04,500 --> 01:48:06,500
just do me.
Come after me for some reason,

1712
01:48:06,500 --> 01:48:12,200
but I don't, but he would have
to I don't think it's going to

1713
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:17,100
be that pack of knows who
Mattias is because of Nina and

1714
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:20,900
Nina is, the reason part of the
reason his ass is in.

1715
01:48:20,900 --> 01:48:24,300
Hell Gate.
Now Mattias is on his radar.

1716
01:48:24,300 --> 01:48:28,100
I guarantee you that, right, but
he doesn't, he doesn't really

1717
01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:30,600
have any reason to go after
Mattias.

1718
01:48:31,500 --> 01:48:33,800
He doesn't have reason to go
after it like okay.

1719
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,300
But highest knows Nina.
Any of those with ice.

1720
01:48:36,500 --> 01:48:40,500
He's over everything about
Mattias, but when Pick a does

1721
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:44,800
this have anything to do with?
With Mattias.

1722
01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:50,100
Mina is the reason Pekka is in
Hell Gate right now.

1723
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:53,300
So I know.
So did you need to give me the

1724
01:48:56,300 --> 01:48:58,800
kill with highest?
Yes.

1725
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:01,400
Just to get back at Nina.
Yeah.

1726
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:05,400
So yeah, that that's going to be
a problem, either way.

1727
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,100
I don't care where Pinker says
to me.

1728
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,800
I ain't fucking with that dude,
because he went to Canada.

1729
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:20,100
Was an actress right period.
I'm sorry, figure out, ya know,

1730
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,200
we'll see how that goes, but
yeah, I have I have a feeling

1731
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:27,300
that one speckle realized like
Pekka's in there.

1732
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:31,600
He's my tires, especially one.
If he sees Mattias like we saw

1733
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,400
Machias looking at him and we
saw pecker, kind of look towards

1734
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,400
his Direction.
I don't think he was looking

1735
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:40,600
Looking at Matias because Matias
was over the now dead body of

1736
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:44,300
his cell mate.
But if he sees Mattias over that

1737
01:49:44,300 --> 01:49:48,800
cellmate that he just killed and
nobody else is paying attention

1738
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,300
to the cell.
Mate, he's going to know, okay?

1739
01:49:51,300 --> 01:49:53,800
So this guy was important to
him.

1740
01:49:53,900 --> 01:49:59,000
However small that importance
was he at least cared enough

1741
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,200
about him to go over there while
he's dying.

1742
01:50:01,500 --> 01:50:05,300
Hmm.
This is also the boyfriend of

1743
01:50:05,300 --> 01:50:08,300
the heart render.
That just fucked me over and

1744
01:50:08,300 --> 01:50:12,500
sent me here.
Peggy, be his research, after he

1745
01:50:12,500 --> 01:50:15,100
figured out what was going on,
which, I'm sure he did.

1746
01:50:15,300 --> 01:50:18,400
He knows that she's a reason
that Mattias is in there.

1747
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:23,900
And so, the smart thing for him
to do is be like, hey, I know

1748
01:50:23,900 --> 01:50:27,200
she put your ass in here and she
really didn't try to get you

1749
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:30,200
out.
Join me, and we figured a way

1750
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:32,700
out of this.
Yeah, if you help me out, I'll

1751
01:50:32,700 --> 01:50:35,500
help you out and we can get
revenge on this beach.

1752
01:50:35,500 --> 01:50:36,900
They put us both in.
In here.

1753
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,400
You seem like you see you have
to realize this.

1754
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,400
How pick a things?
Yeah.

1755
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:47,000
Do you thinking on how I can
turn all of this to my

1756
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,400
advantage?
He's already the big dog in the

1757
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,200
prison.
He was a big dog out.

1758
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:54,800
He's a big dog in.
We have a whole history in our

1759
01:50:54,800 --> 01:51:00,200
world of mafia boss is running
things from the prison gang

1760
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,800
leaders.
Really things from the prison.

1761
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:07,000
Why shouldn't Pekka be any
different, right?

1762
01:51:07,300 --> 01:51:11,800
Yeah.
Oh, and he obliterated that man

1763
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:17,500
that poor man's face.
Like he, my question is, why did

1764
01:51:17,500 --> 01:51:20,100
you think he?
I mean I know I said it in the

1765
01:51:20,100 --> 01:51:22,400
last episode.
Hell Gate is for the worst of

1766
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:26,100
the worst, but still, why did
you think that you was going to

1767
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:30,400
run up on Pekka Rollins?
And come out the Victor in that.

1768
01:51:30,500 --> 01:51:33,700
I mean, maybe he was thinking
okay, you know what all these

1769
01:51:33,700 --> 01:51:37,400
other folks in here are probably
in here because of Pekka, he

1770
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:41,100
probably thought he was going to
have some help now, I think he

1771
01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:42,900
thought.
Yeah, the drop on them.

1772
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:47,300
Is this that he couldn't be can
close the deal, you know?

1773
01:51:49,300 --> 01:51:52,600
Maybe he was 10, 15 years
younger, he made had may have

1774
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:57,700
had a shot, but maybe but Pekka,
was definitely in better shape

1775
01:51:57,700 --> 01:52:03,100
than him, and pick a hat.
And also pick is a man who at

1776
01:52:03,100 --> 01:52:06,100
some point, his life didn't have
anything to lose.

1777
01:52:06,100 --> 01:52:10,300
Like he had nothing to lose and
everything to gain by killing

1778
01:52:10,300 --> 01:52:11,800
this man.
That's true.

1779
01:52:12,100 --> 01:52:14,500
So that's true.
Because noticed, like, the

1780
01:52:14,500 --> 01:52:16,800
guards, nobody came.
Nobody stopped them.

1781
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:20,100
It was just kind of like, Oh
well one less mouth to feed.

1782
01:52:21,700 --> 01:52:25,900
Or we got one, we lost 10.
Well call it even.

1783
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:35,200
So yeah, that was episode 5 and
now we have three episodes left.

1784
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:39,100
They have a lot of ground to
cover but I don't think it'll be

1785
01:52:39,100 --> 01:52:42,000
a problem especially with the
way they've gone these last

1786
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:45,100
couple of episodes like they are
moving through the story.

1787
01:52:45,300 --> 01:52:54,600
Now, I will say this So I'm
wondering what they are changing

1788
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:59,400
from the books to the screen,
because at this point from where

1789
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,600
Elena and Nikolai, not all of
them are, you know, they're in

1790
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:05,200
these caves.
It looks kind of like, you know,

1791
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:08,800
church pews that she's sitting
on at this point in the story in

1792
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:13,800
the book, The apparatus makes a
reappearance and it becomes this

1793
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:20,500
really weird.
Really weird cultish type thing

1794
01:53:20,500 --> 01:53:25,500
where you know there are his
followers and they are

1795
01:53:25,500 --> 01:53:28,700
worshipers of the sun Summoner
to the point where they're

1796
01:53:28,700 --> 01:53:33,900
keeping Alina captive because
she's weak, and there was like a

1797
01:53:33,907 --> 01:53:37,200
whole fight between her and cure
again that has not happened and

1798
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,800
I don't think will happen.
So it's gonna be interesting to

1799
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:43,300
see if they're not going to do
this part of the story, that's

1800
01:53:43,300 --> 01:53:45,600
in the books, how they're going
to change it.

1801
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:48,700
And I know they probably We will
just because of the fact that

1802
01:53:48,700 --> 01:53:52,600
right now, they even have the
twins separated and the twins in

1803
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:59,400
the books were part of this.
I won't say they were part of

1804
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:06,000
the cult, but they are also
worshippers of Santa Elena and I

1805
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:10,300
think they were working for the
apparatus at some point and then

1806
01:54:10,300 --> 01:54:13,100
they stop working for him and
they were completely loyal to

1807
01:54:13,300 --> 01:54:15,800
Elena.
So it's going to be interesting

1808
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,800
to see what They do with the
story moving forward.

1809
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:20,900
Like I said we only have three
more episodes left.

1810
01:54:20,900 --> 01:54:24,900
And if they haven't done that,
At this point in the show, I

1811
01:54:24,900 --> 01:54:27,800
doubt if they're going to do it.
If they do a season 3 and maybe

1812
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:30,300
that'll come in and season 3,
however, they do that.

1813
01:54:30,300 --> 01:54:34,300
But I'm just I'm curious to see
what direction they're going to

1814
01:54:34,300 --> 01:54:36,500
go with with the rest of their
season.

1815
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:46,400
So any final thoughts.
Yeah, this was they put add a I

1816
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:49,100
didn't think about it until we
almost forgot about pick a

1817
01:54:49,108 --> 01:54:52,800
Rollins.
They packed a lot of shit into

1818
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:56,400
this episode.
Did finger like, they're like

1819
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:58,700
four or five different
storylines going at the same

1820
01:54:58,700 --> 01:55:01,800
time in this, but she didn't
feel right?

1821
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:05,800
But you didn't feel rushed and
it didn't feel like anything was

1822
01:55:05,900 --> 01:55:11,000
was lacking or being missing,
you know, that they were all

1823
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:12,100
pretty.
Ernst.

1824
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:18,600
So they got a lot because of,
you know, having the limited,

1825
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,200
you know, episodes, but I'll
give them this.

1826
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:27,800
They really, really move the
story ahead a lot and I enjoyed

1827
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,400
it thoroughly.
I really, really enjoyed the

1828
01:55:30,407 --> 01:55:34,500
next episode which I have notes
on but this episode and I didn't

1829
01:55:34,500 --> 01:55:38,400
get to talk about episode 4 but
episode 4 I thought was

1830
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,600
absolutely brilliant and I loved
how they got.

1831
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:47,000
Pekka, I love how they used the
kid, and I think I just, I was

1832
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:51,100
sort of sad when it ended and I
was like, hello halfway point.

1833
01:55:51,100 --> 01:55:54,200
So yeah.
Yeah.

1834
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:55,600
I know, I wish you were here
yesterday.

1835
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:58,000
I was like we could we could
have just we could have leverage

1836
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:00,000
that episode out.
I was like, man.

1837
01:56:00,100 --> 01:56:04,100
I miss my homie.
Yeah, a lot of Leverage

1838
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:06,500
references in that for that
episode.

1839
01:56:06,700 --> 01:56:08,700
A lot of Leverage.
I got leverage episodes.

1840
01:56:08,700 --> 01:56:12,700
Episode 7.
Not 66 is are Bending or bending

1841
01:56:12,700 --> 01:56:14,700
in.
General 7 is leverage.

1842
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:19,700
Yeah, yeah, they're piecing
replacing again, is Ben has been

1843
01:56:19,700 --> 01:56:22,500
really good.
Everything has been really good.

1844
01:56:22,900 --> 01:56:25,400
It's much better.
They learned a lot of lessons

1845
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,100
from last season.
Hmm.

1846
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:30,400
You know, as far as far as how
everything is done.

1847
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:37,300
So yeah, like I said, episodes,
four five, great.

1848
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:40,600
All right.
We'll we'll see where the rest

1849
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:42,500
of this season is.
Going to go.

1850
01:56:42,500 --> 01:56:46,300
But for now, that is it for our
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1851
01:56:46,300 --> 01:56:50,700
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1852
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1853
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:56,400
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1854
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:59,700
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1855
01:56:59,700 --> 01:57:02,200
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1856
01:57:02,500 --> 01:57:04,900
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1857
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