July 10, 2025

The Return of Mike - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #362

If you have been a listener of our show for awhile, you may have noticed the absence of our self-proclaimed Theory Prognosticator and Dad-Joke Enthusiast, Mike, over the past couple of months. Well, fear no more - he's back!! We catch up with Mike to get his thoughts on the Thunderbolts*, The Wheel of Time, and The Last of Us.

Additional note: as he explains towards the end of the recording, Mike's absence was due to having surgery to remove his prostate after some positive findings for cancer. He is well now and thanks everyone for their well wishes, and urges all men to go get tested!!!

 

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah, and as you can

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see, I am joined by the full
crew today for the first time in

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almost two months.
So yeah, we got Anthony and

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Michelle and Casey, and Mike is
back.

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Hi, Mike is back.
Hey, Mike.

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Hey, what's up, guys?
Welcome.

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Welcome.
Back.

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Thank you.
Thank you.

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It's good to be back.
I missed you guys too.

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Like watching you guys on
YouTube, they had me having like

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I had FOMO like a motherfucker.
Especially on that The last Last

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of Us Gamer 1 I had, I had major
FOMO.

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I was.
Like well.

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You're, I was like, 'cause I was
at that point, 'cause I told you

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I probably wanted to get in on
that and I was like, I'd

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probably be alright, but it's
OK.

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It was a great episode though,
So I'm glad you.

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But yes, I'm, I'm good.
I'm back and, and it's hot.

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God.
Yes, it is.

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Yes, very much so.
Like we're in, we are in Georgia

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and I think the temperature
right now is hovering right

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around 100°.
So yeah, it's hot, but OK, so

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this episode we're not going to
talk about anything like

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specific, but we wanted to give
Mike a chance to kind of catch

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up with the rest of the crew
because he's missed a couple of

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things that we usually have him
on the discussions for.

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Because for those of you who may
not have known Mike head surgery

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was it May.
The beginning of.

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May or late April.
Late.

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April.
Yeah, OK.

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Two months.
Almost two months, yeah.

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So my head surgery, we've been
missing him so we didn't get his

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take on a lot of things.
So I just decided, hey, let's

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catch up with Mike and see
what's going on.

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So what we're going to start
with, since Casey is here

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because she doesn't watch the
other two shows, we're going to

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go ahead and start with the
Thunderbolts because I know I'm

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about to ask the question that's
on everybody's mind in regards

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to Thunderbolts.
Mike, how did you feel about

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your favorite character's
appearance in the in the film?

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Grand opening.
Grand closing.

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I was, I was, I was OK.
I was, you know, I feel bad for

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her, but at the same time part
of me was just like, to be

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honest, it was kind of anti
climactic for me.

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It's like she died.
Like, OK, fine, but it kind of

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pissed me off because they
turned Taskmaster into a

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throwaway character and he's
nothing like he shouldn't be a

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throwaway, he or she.
Well, she's did like that.

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The Taskmaster shouldn't be a
throwaway character because he's

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a very good character in the
comics and they could have done

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a lot with him.
He could have been a recurring

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villain because he's a
mercenary.

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He could be working for anybody.
They could have had him do a

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whole lot of different shows and
appear like even shows or

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movies.
He could appeared in either one.

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But it's like, it's kind of,
it's kind of like they tainted

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him now.
So it was kind of bittersweet

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for me and it really didn't.
It didn't affect my opinion on

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the movie.
OK, Which is what?

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Did you think of the movie?
I enjoyed it.

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I thought it was great.
I I really liked it because I'm

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secretly a ghost super fan like
I love her character and I love

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her powers like the fight where
they first meet was fucking

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phenomenal.
Like I love that shit like I

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love her just phasing in and
out.

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I love how when, when Century
was losing his shit, like she

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went and saved people, like
helping them phase through that

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building, falling down on him, I
thought that was really fucking

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good.
Yeah.

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I love Bob.
I love Century and how they

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presented him because Century in
the comics is basically just how

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Bob is in the movie.
Like he's, he's a lost soul.

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He's he has all this time.
He's like a big toddler who

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doesn't know his own strength.
That's basically what he is and.

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That sounds about accurate,
yeah.

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And that's how they portrayed
him.

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It's like the fight scene in the
Watchtower, like where he threw

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Red Guardian through the window
and got him back.

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I was like, see.
And just like, I was just really

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impressed because I was kind of
worried about how he's going to

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do it because I know him from
Top Gun Maverick and like I, I

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enjoyed his character there.
I don't know if I don't know if

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any of guys have seen it.
It's like.

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I haven't, but I heard he played
a character named Bob in that

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one too.
Yeah, he did.

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And but, but he was like a
really kind of, he was like a

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little dork.
He was, he was, he was dorky and

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he, he didn't fly the plane.
He was the he was in the back

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like giving her directions and
firing them in charge of the

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missile system, in charge of the
weapon system of the fighter

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jet.
So he was kind of a backseat

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character then.
But it's like they really, I

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like how they did it.
I can appreciate it and I, I

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really enjoyed it.
To me personally, it was almost

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kind of a Black Widow redemption
for how they let the Elena's

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character get developed in it.
I really appreciated how they

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handled that.
And I Bucky, Bucky was so weird

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to me because it's like you see
him like, like just kind of like

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he seems lost to me in a lot of
the movies he was.

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Matured.
Yes, he was a leader.

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I, I, I, I get what Mike is
saying.

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It's almost like he he, he
thought he had purpose, but then

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he really wasn't sure.
Yeah, I mean, I like them.

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And it's just like he just kind
of seemed like to float in and

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out of the scene.
And it's just kind of like, OK,

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I need, I need you to be a
little more assertive, just like

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a little bit.
And John Walker with John

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Walker, I didn't have any
opinion.

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I'm I'm.
I'm I'm here's who he is.

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Look.
He great value cap.

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Yeah, exactly.
Great value, Cap.

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He he is who he is.
It's like, of course he's

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divorced from his wife, Of
course he's over there pouting

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because he's not Captain
America.

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He's still who he is.
And I didn't expect him to be

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anything more than what he is in
this movie.

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I expect them to still have that
attitude where he still thinks

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that he's the shit and everybody
looks at him like, really like I

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love, like Elena and Elena and
Ghost were like, no Sir, no.

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They were they were tagged him
in that ass and I was so.

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Happy I was.
They were.

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They were it was beautiful, like
they they were tag team dissing

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it.
It was pretty perfect.

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I loved it.
Valentin, I think, got a dig off

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of him too.
What does she call him?

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I think, she said.
Junior varsity Captain, America.

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JB Captain.
Oh man, I'm Val.

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I love, I love Val's that Val as
Marvel's Amanda Waller in this.

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I mean, that's basically who she
was in the movie.

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She was, Think about it.
She has a band of kind of

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halfway villains that she sent
on a mission.

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She didn't expect any of them to
come back and they tried to kill

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him.
And she still ended up fixing

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things and being on top of it,
even though she's really fucking

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shady.
OK, She's Amanda Waller.

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OK.
And I, I enjoy, I enjoy, I

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enjoyed it.
I I liked her, liked her

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performance.
Red Guardians.

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Red Guardian.
He was fucking awesome.

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He was hilarious.
Him driving into the desert like

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you love it.
It's a troll up.

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Late way after the fact, we
hiding.

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We hiding in the mouth, I.
Loved, I loved his part in it.

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Then I'm.
I'm OK now with them being the

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New Avengers 'cause I'm more, I
was like, OK, 'cause they're,

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they're not really the Dark
Avengers.

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Cause the Dark Avengers is an
entirely different, different

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like set.
And they would have to introduce

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Norman Osborne in that.
And because Century is actually

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a member of the Dark Avengers in
that comic run.

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So when they said he was part of
the New Avengers, I was like,

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Oh, well, I mean, they're not
doing.

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They can't do dark things.
Right.

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They can't do Dark Avengers
without Bullseye and Norman

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Osborne, So I knew they weren't
doing that.

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So that's it's, it's an
interesting take.

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I, I'm, I'm more interested to
see how the clash between Elena

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and Sam Wilson's going to be
because they're going to butt

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heads because Elena's the de
facto leader of that whole crew,

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even though John Walker probably
thinks he is.

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Elena is their leader.
And even you, no matter how much

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John I, I have a feeling John
Walker's going to try to like do

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some bossy things and Elaine's
gonna be like, sit your bitch

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ass down.
Why don't you think Bucky?

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Bucky, here's my OK, here's my
thing on MCU's Bucky.

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The way that they are doing his
character and the chances that

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they've given him don't give me
a lot of confidence in him

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leading and then giving him a
leading the role as a leader

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anytime soon.
I I just don't get that from I

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can see it.
I just don't know when they're

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it just doesn't seem like
they're getting ready to do it

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right now.
I mean it could happen, but it's

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like it the way they're
developing his character.

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He still seems like a like a
side character, like not really

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in charge.
Think back to the what if where

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they had the Mex.
It's like it was Sam, him and

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Photon and and and Monica.
It wasn't just him.

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He wasn't he was he was one of
the leaders, but he wasn't the

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leader.
That's probably something that

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they will do.
Like if they do have they might

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have Elena and him as Co
leaders, which is which will be

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fine, But the two of them going
against Sam is going to be

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interesting to see.
It's going to be interesting to

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see how they pull that off.
And also I'm looking forward to

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see if the rumors about the that
being a different Fantastic Four

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in the jet than the one then the
Pedro Pascal's group.

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Like, I heard that.
I heard that rumor.

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I heard, I heard that this is
actually a different cap.

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It's a different Fantastic Four
that's coming into that

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universe.
So I'm interested to see if that

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comes.
I've heard, I've actually heard

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that two or three times.
So I'm like, OK, I'll, I'm I'm

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willing to see see what happens.
So that's probably going to come

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up at the end of the Fantastic
Four movie, which still gives me

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hope that they're bringing back
John Krasinski to play him

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again.
Even just a string of them, just

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like have a little, have a
little little string caught on,

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caught on the wing, just like
floating and floating behind it,

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like, you know.
But no, I didn't enjoy it.

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I think it's a, it's about a 7/7
and 1/2 for me.

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I really enjoyed it.
I thought was good.

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I thought you were rank it
higher because of the whole

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Taskmaster thing.
Because it was so funny.

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We were all sitting there.
We were like, we wonder what

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Mike is going to think because
it included her so heavily in

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the promo.
Like I literally have posters

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downstairs where they have just
kind of stuck her in and she

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looks like she belongs there.
And then when Ghost killed her,

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I was like, OK, she's going to
get back up in a minute.

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And then she never got up.
And I was like, did they really

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do all of that?
Have her do all of this

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promotion 'cause she was on the
promotional tour, they had all

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this stuff and y'all literally
gave like, somebody needs to

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time it with a stopwatch?
Because I think that's how short

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it was that she was on the
screen.

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And I was just like.
You only have one line too.

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Well, it's it's not outside the
room a possibility that she

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could be in Doomsday, so.
She could be bad, she got.

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Burnt to a crisp?
Well then again, we don't know

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what her suit is made of.
Her suit could have easily

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protected.
Her.

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It could be a different version
of her based on what they're

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going to do with the multiverse.
Should they actually actually be

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20 masters this time?
Yeah, I don't know.

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But yeah, I'm actually looking
forward to the next next couple

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MCU movies.
That should be cool.

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Yeah, and now I was actually
looking when we looked at the

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Fantastic Four trailer today,
the newest one, Yes.

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Yeah, I was actually looking
forward to like, OK, so at the

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end of this movie they're going
to then come to Thunderbolts

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Earth, and then you just change
my thoughts on that when you say

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it could be another group.
Damn it.

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Could.
Be what we have been missing

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because MM throws those
curveballs like that sometimes.

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That's what I do.
I, I, I, I hit this way, then

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you go that way.
He's he's the theory for.

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I'm I'm a theory progress
theory.

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I can't even say I'm a theory
prognosticator and dad joke

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enthusiast.
Yes I am.

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Yes, sure AM.
OK, do you think that

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thunderbolts went too dark?
Not dark, but heavy.

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I I think that with but this is
but then again, Marvel loves

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dealing with mental illness and
mental health and mental issues

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like they they've done it since
the end of since after in game.

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It's like that.
They love dealing with people.

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They they love seeing showing
people actually dealing with

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grief.
They've done it a lot and

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dealing with grief, mental
illness and getting their mind

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right.
They've done it a lot done it

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throughout ever since in game
stopped.

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So I, I was actually very
pleased that they showed me

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Elena going through her get,
getting through her depression

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and showing her actually, you
know, coming out, coming out on

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the other side of it and showing
how Bucky goes through it,

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showing how John Walker goes
through it, showing, showing Bob

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actually coming to terms with
things himself.

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So it's like, you know, it shows
that there are always two sides

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of mental illness.
Like there's, it wasn't really

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necessarily dark.
It was just really mentally

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heavy as far as seeing somebody
deal with, actually confront

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their depression and face it
head on and take care of it.

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And I I really appreciate them
for doing that.

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So before we move on to the next
topic, does anybody have

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anything they would like to add
about their thoughts on the

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Thunderbolts?
It's been what, a month and a

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half now since it's been out.
So I don't think I don't know if

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anybody is going to see it
again.

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I I just.
I want I can't wait to so it

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comes out on on plus so I can
watch.

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It, I think it's coming out in a
couple.

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Matter of fact, I think it's
coming out maybe next week or

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maybe the week after that.
So it'll be on digital?

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Yeah, I want, I want, I do want
to watch it again.

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I think the only thing I add is
like on reflection I feel like

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it it's a much better movie than
people give regret before.

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It is it's it's it's.
Way better.

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Much better.
Yeah.

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I'm still upset about Captain
America and Brave New World.

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Well, 'cause this one, they, it
was a lot of love and care put

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into and yes, it was, you know,
dark and heavy.

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I just, it's just very
disappointing.

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And then we started Falcon in
The Winter Soldier again and I'm

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like, oh, they just did him
wrong.

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They just did him wrong.
So.

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Yeah, I.
Still underbolts just reminds me

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about how bad.
Yeah, yeah, they they should

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have gave Sam his own story.
I mean, he was still great in

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it, but it should have been his
story and not a, you know, not a

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follow up of Bruce Banner story.
And then to have all of that and

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then not have Bruce Banner at
all.

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That was, yeah, it was.
It was weird.

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Yeah, I mean, it was a
glorified, it was basically

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basically a whole Red Hulk
movie.

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I mean, it's like with, with,
with Sam as a protagonist cause

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I watched it a couple more times
since then.

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I still really like the movie
and there's still great

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performances in it.
Like Anthony Mackie is really

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good in it and I still need Carl
Lumbley to get some fucking

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recognition for him from being
fucking Isaiah Bradley.

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And I, I really like the movie.
I it's like, what's the name?

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Ruth Batt Serif has grown on me.
I actually really like her

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character.
The, the, the, the movie was

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really, really good.
I actually like it better having

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watched it again.
It's just like the like the

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Marvels, it's like the Marvels I
was kind of male on.

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But once I watched it, watched
it a couple more times, I really

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enjoyed that.
I started to really like that

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movie.
So there's little things I

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noticed and I'm not as upset
with how they portrayed the

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leader visually as I was when we
when we first reviewed it.

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Like when last times I watched
it, I tried to focus more on how

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he was acting, how he how he
manipulated everybody as opposed

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to just seeing how you look and
that.

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And I was like, OK, he actually
did pretty good.

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So I'm not really upset at that
either.

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I do kind of wish that they
would.

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What I want them to do is I want
them to get him like he was in

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the comics, like he he was able
to control further in the

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comics.
He Anthony can correct me if I'm

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wrong.
He was able to control when he

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transformed into the Red Hulk,
and he was actually mentally

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sentient and he could talk and
he was like, hey, so 'cause he

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actually led the Thunderbolts,
right?

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Yeah.
So I, that's what I want to see.

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I I really want to see him.
Wait, Yeah.

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That's why they call him the
Thunderbolts.

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They.
Were the Thunderbolts.

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Yeah, they've been.
They've been.

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They've been a shit ton of
iterations.

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Well, almost cause of the soccer
team.

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The.
Movie.

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Go ahead.
That was for the movie.

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Right that those thunderbolts
had nothing to do with the ones

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the one I'm talking about the.
The ones in convocs are named

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for Thunderbolt Ross.
They put he put the group

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together and he was the Red
Hulk.

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Yeah, and it it, it had like a
rotate.

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It had a rotating, rotating
array of people in it.

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I mean, even Deadpool was a
Thunderbolt at one point.

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Yeah, for.
Somebody who doesn't He was, for

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all intents and purposes,
Thunderbolt Ross.

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He was just a Red Hulk.
Yeah.

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He was still him.
Yeah, he was he he was sent here

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like he could talk.
He like he was he actually ran

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to frack a team.
Thunderbolts is actually are

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really good common.
Like they're they're pretty good

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comics.
But that that's why that that

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movie movie kind of threw me
because I was like, see, that's

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not really unless unless they
get him to transform and he like

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in Secret Wars or so or he they
they bring him back in some

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formatter, but I don't think
they're gonna do that.

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So I don't know.
It's just weird that yeah.

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I don't know, but because it's
kind of like they left, they

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left that door open with his
character.

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I feel like maybe for the
possibility of bringing him back

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for something else.
But I think also with the

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Thunderbolts, and I don't know
if this had anything to do with

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it because I can't remember when
they actually started filming,

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but maybe they changed the
concept of of the Thunderbolts

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and how they got started, how
they got their name and stuff

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after William Hurt died.
Maybe they hadn't at that point

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decided what they were going to
do with Ross's character, right?

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So that that could have
something to do.

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And there was like, OK, well,
let's just change it up and do

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this and put a different spin on
it.

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But again, we're talking about a
a cinematic universe that deals

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with multiverses.
So that's not to say that the

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comic accurate version of
Thunderbolts isn't out there

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somewhere that we may see a
version of it or we may see a

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glimpse of it or a cameo of it
in one of the other films,

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'cause I swear if I see another
random website update on the

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next person who is joining
Doomsday, I'm like, are y'all

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gonna have any money left at
this point?

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Because almost every day I see
somebody new, oh, they're going

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to bring this person back.
They're bringing this person

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back.
They're bringing this person.

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You know, now there's rumors
that Disney is talking about

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bringing Jonathan Majors back as
Kane.

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So.
Wait till Secret Wars.

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Yeah.
So when Secret Wars says you're

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going to, it's going to be even
worse because they're going to

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try this.
Like there's going to be all

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kinds of shit if they do.
If they do Battle World, it's

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going to be a, it's going to be
a are.

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We going to be looking at Secret
Wars Part 1 and Secret Wars Part

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2.
Secret Wars Part 3.

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Is it going to be like that?
Cause because I don't.

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One of the things about
Doomsday, when they made that

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initial announcement, that was
33 or 34 cast members that you

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named then.
And then there have been rumors

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of other people since then,
like, you know, people who are

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taking set photos, like, oh,
this person was on the set here

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and this person was on the set.
How how do you have a story with

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that many characters and keep it
cohesive?

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I just, I don't know.
Probably why.

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Probably why, Kevin said said
that Secret War is gonna be his

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last one.
He's like, I'm sick of this

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shit.
OK, look, I'm like I'm out.

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But he started this, didn't he?
Yes, yeah, yeah, it's his fault.

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And he's getting ready to leave
right after the Secret Wars.

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Like he's like, this is your
shit.

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Like I know.
Bye.

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You don't care.
He already made his.

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Money, it's it's going to be one
of those things where these

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people are only going to be in
there for like a minute or two.

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Yeah, right.
It because.

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Kind of like John Krasinski and
Patrick Stewart and.

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Cause like the link the the the
leak that I heard about what the

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story was going to be, which I'm
not going to repeat here.

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It it, it makes sense there.
There's gonna be a lot of

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cameos, a lot of brief
appearances.

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OK, especially with the X-Men.
With the X-Men, there's probably

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gonna be a shit ton, like of
just weird shit like like

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mother, like people you haven't
even thought of in a while.

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It's like, 'cause I would have
thought, I don't know it.

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It just seems like.
'Cause you're missing Storm and

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I still think she's gonna end up
in that.

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I think, you know, you have the
actors who were like, Oh yeah,

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that seems, that seems great.
Or like Halle Berry was like,

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nobody contacted me, whatever.
That same thing, Andrew Garfield

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and Tobey Maguire said.
And.

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You see how that turned out?
It was a wonderful surprise.

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Chris Evans a couple of a couple
of weeks ago was that I think

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the premiere of his new movie.
He was like, yeah, it feels sad

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seeing the band get back
together and I'm not there.

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Da, da, da, da.
Whatever, Chris, whatever.

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You know who's been quiet?
Mark Ruffalo's been quiet, but

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they haven't let him talk.
They haven't let him talk to

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nobody.
Nobody but you know, he's also

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one of the people that spoils
things.

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So that's probably why, Probably
like we ain't telling you shit

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until you you have to arrive on
set and we're going to give you

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your dialogue that day.
No, they got his ass locked in

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the trailer.
They don't let him out with if

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they he's actually if he's in
it, they just let him out.

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This film seems like get your
ass back in the trailer.

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And they should and they they
cut him off from everything.

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It's like there's no Wi-Fi in
there.

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And just like there's, there's
barely ATV.

441
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,200
He has, he has like, he has like
a like a old black and white TV

442
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,960
with AVCR and like, and like a
box of videotapes.

443
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,480
He's like, yeah.
And.

444
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,840
The Bunny ear antennas with the
aluminum for.

445
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,520
It's just like they're like, no,
you're not getting, we're not

446
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,560
letting you do shit like sit
your ass down.

447
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,120
Yeah, yeah, him and him and Tom
Holland.

448
00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:00,800
They they just can't.
They're they're like, no, we

449
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,160
ain't talking all a damn thing.
Y'all need also work.

450
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,360
So how was Secret Invasions a
part of that?

451
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,240
Not better not be, goddamn it.
No, Absolutely.

452
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,200
Not but no.
You.

453
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:14,920
You.
Got it's in the catalog.

454
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,720
I mean where?
Are we see what you what you're

455
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,920
doing is since Taskmash is
going, you're trying to get me

456
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,680
mad about something else.
You're trying to get me going

457
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,880
about something else.
I'm just, you know, I'm just,

458
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:29,000
I'm with Michelle because Secret
Wars, you gave this to us and

459
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,200
you introduced this whole new
element and, and these new

460
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,840
people with these new powers.
Khaleesi, I can't even remember

461
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,520
what her what her character's
name was, but yeah.

462
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,920
But I'm kind of curious too.
Like, so where does that leave

463
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,880
them?
And then other other characters

464
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,600
that we got briefly and then
they pulled out.

465
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,360
Because I've heard rumors that
Moonlight is going to show up.

466
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:57,760
And I'm like, I just need to
see.

467
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,760
I don't care if he's on the
screen for two minutes.

468
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:07,720
I just need to see Oscar Isaac
as moonlight and not as what's

469
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,360
his, what's his name,
Apocalypse.

470
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,080
It would be there.
Please don't don't right?

471
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,440
Don't need that.
And then we've got to get our

472
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,560
questions answered about Roadie.
So let's what what's happening?

473
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,440
Unless Roadie shows up and Iron
Heart I mean help me.

474
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,160
Mike, you've seen the first 3,
three episodes.

475
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,640
Does he show up yet?
No, he's not.

476
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,720
He's not the first two.
Episodes so we gotta include

477
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,000
Secret Invasion but.
See, but see The thing is it's

478
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,800
like they they're him and they
like they have armor wars, which

479
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,960
was supposed to be featuring
him.

480
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,240
It was supposed to be ATV
series, then supposed to be a

481
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,960
movie, then supposed to be
canceled, then supposed to be

482
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,920
back on.
So it's like we don't have no

483
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,280
idea what the fuck's going on
roadie.

484
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,880
I mean down Shields gonna be 70
in like 10 years.

485
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,080
They need to hurry up and do
something.

486
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,120
It's just like fucking.
It's just like with Sam

487
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,120
Jackson's like Sam Jackson's get
ready to be 80.

488
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:57,520
How y'all gonna still have him
being Nick furious like y'all

489
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,680
got y'all got to get a get a
multi, get a multiverse version

490
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,320
of Nick Fury where he's where
he's like they haven't been like

491
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,400
Zac Efron being Nick Fury, but.
Just like the Blade movie, they

492
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,760
apparently the Blade movie is
still on.

493
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,760
Yep, back on 20 after like
20/20/28 you know.

494
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,640
It's been sure.
It's been popping up in my feed

495
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,400
the last couple of days.
And then of course, Mahershala

496
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,640
Ali is in the new Jurassic World
movie.

497
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,760
So he was on the red carpet and
someone on ET asked them.

498
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,520
They were like, so what's going
on with this Blade movie?

499
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,800
He was like, look, just tell
Disney I'm ready whenever they

500
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,920
ready.
I'm ready.

501
00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:39,520
So apparently it's not dead yet.
So.

502
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,360
Only ever one blades, every
going to be 1 blade.

503
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:44,040
Whoever thought that would have
been prophetic?

504
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,240
I was wondering which one of
y'all was going to say it first.

505
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,800
He said what he said he said.
What?

506
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,080
He said.
Oh.

507
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,200
Man.
Oh, goodness.

508
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,520
OK, so I think we're going to
move on from the Marvel talk.

509
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,200
And at this point, I think Casey
is going to exit the chats.

510
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,840
Great to see you.
Because she don't talk about

511
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,040
this other stuff.
Enjoy your.

512
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,920
Other shows.
That I'm surprised you don't

513
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,040
watch The Last of Us.
You you watch The Walking Dead.

514
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,560
You don't watch The last.
No, The Walking Dead is the

515
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,480
exception.
Casey don't do horror stuff,

516
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,240
right?
Yeah, Casey don't do horror

517
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,000
stuff.
Walking Dead is the exception.

518
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,320
Kind of like who was, I think
Anthony, you said something

519
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,920
about you don't do zombies, but
you've done a little bit of The

520
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,800
Walking Dead and then you did
The Last of Us.

521
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,760
But only I think if The Last of
Us wasn't a video game that you

522
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,440
would play, you probably
wouldn't have watched that

523
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,800
either.
Probably not.

524
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,280
I mean, to be, to be fair, to be
fair, I don't do horror stuff.

525
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,560
Either but.
It's like The Last of Us got me

526
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,400
somehow.
I don't know.

527
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,000
I don't know how it happened,
but it's like I just watched for

528
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,800
example.
We forced you into it.

529
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,120
It's called peer pressure.
Apparently, yeah, I'm.

530
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,240
Yeah, I only watched The Last of
Us up until they went to that.

531
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,640
Yeah.
Yeah, Frank.

532
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,400
Oh, of course you would watch
the gay episode, Casey.

533
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,240
And stop that.
Which was really one of the

534
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,040
most, that was probably the best
episodes on TV, period.

535
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,160
So.
Oh, OK.

536
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,360
Thanks, love.
I'll give you that.

537
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,640
I don't know what happened after
that.

538
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,480
Maybe one of these days we'll
get you to watch it.

539
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,800
I mean, it's Pedro Pascal.
Well, you.

540
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,960
Know.
I mean, I mean.

541
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,440
You know what people keep
telling me?

542
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,480
I'm getting more and more lists.
People are like, you got to

543
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,880
watch this, you got to watch
that, you got to watch this.

544
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,440
So I have like a list this going
of stuff that people tell me I

545
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,120
got to watch.
So I'll add it on there and then

546
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,640
when I'm not doing anything.
If the Nigerian is not any,

547
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,840
she's not watching.
It I mean, that's a good way to

548
00:29:50,840 --> 00:30:00,000
get her into something.
So you see, OK, so we're going

549
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,360
to let Casey go and do her
thing.

550
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Appreciate it.
Have fun and then you guys can

551
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,240
decide.
Mike, what do you want to talk

552
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,200
about first?
Because I know you've only seen

553
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,640
up to episode 5 of Will of Time,
correct?

554
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,600
Because that's.
Where I've seen I've watched

555
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,960
episode 6.
OK, because that's the next one

556
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,120
we have to record so because.
I I recorded with you guys on

557
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,560
episode 4 because I told you
that was right about Elijah.

558
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,120
Oh yeah, you did.
So you.

559
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,440
So you really only missed one
episode only?

560
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,520
Episode.
Five or two?

561
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,640
No, I think you.
I think you recorded 3.

562
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:41,800
I missed 3 and I recorded 4.
Oh, OK, OK, OK, so we we have to

563
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,800
do 6.
So how are you feeling so far

564
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,400
About how how did you feel about
wait, did you do?

565
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,040
The Summit.
I didn't record episode 5 with

566
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,000
you guys.
Was episode 5 Rowenian?

567
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,760
No, Rowenian was 4.
Rowenian was 4.

568
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,720
Yeah.
Episode 5 was oh, episode 5 was

569
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,320
he Wayne finding out who's been
haunting her dream?

570
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,160
This bit No, you know what?
See No.

571
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,600
Well, you see this, I'm gonna
start this.

572
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,800
This how?
I'm just how the hell I'm gonna

573
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,080
start this Rands bitch ass.
I'm with Rand.

574
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,760
I'm just like freaking godfather
three.

575
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,520
I'm like, anytime I thought I
was gonna give him the benefit

576
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:25,200
of every time I thought I was
out, he pulls me back in this

577
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,880
mother.
Oh, I was so and I knew it was

578
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,320
gonna happen as soon as she
started dream walking.

579
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,160
I was like, watch.
I was like, I remember, I

580
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,680
remember, I remember when I
watched it, as soon as she went

581
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,840
dream walking, I was like, she's
gonna walk in on them.

582
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,280
She's gonna fucking walk in on I
know it and fucking Leandrin's

583
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,120
ass.
I'm like, you got being.

584
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,440
She knows how to play the game.
You got to you, you, you.

585
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,560
I mean land fear.
Land fear.

586
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,280
Yeah.
Land fear.

587
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,720
Not Leandrin.
Land fear.

588
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,040
Land fear Lamprey knows how to
play the game.

589
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,840
I can't be.
I can't even fucking be mad at

590
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,200
her.
I was like, I like as soon as I

591
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,640
saw like in the beginning when
they were sitting and she was

592
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,560
like, she was like I love you
and they were kissing and shit.

593
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,520
I was like this fucking Rands
look.

594
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,680
You have to remember, Rand is
still young.

595
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,360
He still can get.
We can.

596
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,480
Only use that excuse like for so
many things.

597
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,760
I mean when if if it when he's
when he when he's awake and he's

598
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,360
trying, he's trying to get in
bed with a Gwaine and he's like,

599
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,360
oh wait, we can wait this fine
Da da da, da.

600
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,880
Then he goes to sleep and he
dreams that he's with fucking

601
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,080
fucking land fear.
I'm like.

602
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,240
But I don't think that can all
be blamed on him because Land

603
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,640
Fear is kind of inserting
herself in there too.

604
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,080
So don't be looking at me like
that.

605
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,040
Anthony Laffer he has.
Choices.

606
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,200
He has choices.
Yeah, can you tell me that when

607
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,840
you go to sleep you have full
control of your dreams?

608
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,480
Hey, my wife watches this.
You trying to?

609
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:01,480
Trap me.
Wait, both of y'all?

610
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,960
Both of y'all started talking at
the same time and I didn't hear

611
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,680
nothing.
But first of all, Anthony's

612
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,360
sitting next to his wife and my
wife watching it might actually

613
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,120
listen to this podcast.
You ain't catching me in in no

614
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,920
in no damn trap.
You trying to trap a

615
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,800
motherfucker.
No, I'm not doing it.

616
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,880
I'm just saying.
What you could go to sleep and

617
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,640
dream that you walk off a Cliff.
You can't you, you might be

618
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,360
sitting there watching yourself
walk and be like, OK, this is

619
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,320
not a good idea.
I think.

620
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,200
Wait.
Wait, wait, but.

621
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,480
If that's the way you.
Go.

622
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,080
No, let's wait.
Let's bring us back.

623
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,360
Let's bring us back to the show.
We in we in the sewers, not in

624
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,640
the apartment.
Let's bring it back to the show.

625
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,600
In the show, these people have
control over their dreams, OK?

626
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,440
I believe in that.
He he has options.

627
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,800
He has.
Right, he's the Dragon Reborn so

628
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,920
he should be able to give up a
fight some in the dream.

629
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,240
I've never once heard him talk
about his.

630
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,680
Girlfriend, yeah, I mean, in the
book he's not an expert in the

631
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,800
dream world, but he's shown
enough is not going to be messed

632
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,880
with in the dream world.
That's all I'm saying.

633
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,639
I'm just.
Saying I'm just but I'm.

634
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,920
Enjoying both worlds, Anthony
and I.

635
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,360
Also discussed the fact that
this is the dragon reborn and he

636
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,280
don't know how to half do shit
so.

637
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,679
No, he doesn't.
He really doesn't.

638
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,760
You know, I, I didn't say we had
to give him a a yard.

639
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,120
I, I said just a little inch
that, you know, laugh.

640
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,000
Laffy is getting in there.
She's she's trying to manipulate

641
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,040
the situation.
Right.

642
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:41,280
And he's caught up and I get, I
do give him a yardstick because

643
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,159
he is caught up.
He's having feelings that he he

644
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:51,600
can't quite explain because it's
feelings from the past and the

645
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,199
current feelings.
And he Gwain actually don't

646
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:59,520
really care about him.
He know that so and this woman

647
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,080
is like you're my heart, you're
my soul the.

648
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,480
Thing The thing is, it's like
right?

649
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:05,920
What?
Do.

650
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:06,600
You do?
Yeah.

651
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,320
What do you?
Do with that anything is wrong.

652
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,800
He's kind of him because he kind
of has known for a while that

653
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,400
Gwen isn't really interesting.
She told him that when they were

654
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,320
before they even left the Two
rivers now, so she made it very

655
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,320
clear he.
Kind of knows that, yeah.

656
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,440
It's just hard that who you
cheating?

657
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,560
We is the same one why Gwen is
sleeping is about killing her.

658
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,480
So, you know, it's kind of hard
to digest.

659
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,840
Yeah.
And his and his feelings is

660
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,400
loose there until Amount is
wrapped up in his feelings for

661
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:38,680
her.
Too.

662
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,960
And I think he, Gwen, would have
been all right if it was like

663
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,320
another woman anyway.
Not laying feet, but not the

664
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,400
person who is literally killing
you every night that you escaped

665
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,440
taking your.
Your greatest nightmare and and

666
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,720
disguising herself as this
person and then torturing you.

667
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,360
But again.
Over and over, she's doing.

668
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,280
She knows what she's doing.
She but oh, that's a whole,

669
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,640
that's a whole other
conversation, 'cause I think

670
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,640
there's some things that
happened that Mike has not seen

671
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,720
yet, so we're not going to go
into.

672
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,560
I can't wait to talk about
episode 6.

673
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,880
When we talk about episode 6,
I'm I'm, I'm going in.

674
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:25,840
But my thing is this Rand being
the Dragon Reborn and the way

675
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,480
that he's acting is worrisome to
me.

676
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,040
It's like this stuff that
happens where I'm just like, I

677
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,040
look, I'm looking at Rand.
I'm like, you know what?

678
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:40,280
I you, you need you.
You need something.

679
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,600
You need you need Jesus, a shock
caller.

680
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:48,440
You have no idea.
I watched episode 6, I have some

681
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,120
idea.
Episode 6 pissed me the fuck

682
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,200
off.
I was.

683
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:53,520
I was mad as hell.
It's like that.

684
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,960
I was, I was mad at hell, a
couple people, but I mean, also

685
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,640
OK, Yeah, but it's like Rand, I
see I told you I tried.

686
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,720
I tried to be in his corner.
I actually turned the corner and

687
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,400
said I like said I was I was on.
I was on team ran.

688
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,440
I said I was I'm good.
I'm on team ran now.

689
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,600
I'm just like, yeah.
Just hold on Mike.

690
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:21,120
We still got.
Well, they have three months.

691
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,800
How to discuss like but like.
How do you feel about the

692
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,280
cancellation of the show?
I'm pissed.

693
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,080
I'm so fucking upset.
I'm like, really?

694
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,600
This is Shadow and Bone all
fucking over again.

695
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,120
Bro.
I'm I'm so fucking that mad.

696
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,080
I wish do I wish if I I want, I
want to win this lottery so I

697
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,720
could just so I could start,
start a channel of where I can

698
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,480
so I can get like shows that
have been cancelled. $6,000,000

699
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,000
to finish this show.
Here you go.

700
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,480
Exactly.
Oh, you went with like 3,000,000

701
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,000
Yeah shit.
Yeah, yeah.

702
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,160
And wrap it here.
Wrap this up.

703
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,640
You wrap this up.
You wrap this up or keep it

704
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,760
going.
I don't give a fuck.

705
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,720
I need this.
I need.

706
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:01,800
I need another see at least one
more season of this fucking

707
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,880
show.
But.

708
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,600
Yeah, and, and the crazy thing
is, I'm not going to give

709
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,720
anything spoilery, but you
pissed now, Mike, wait till you

710
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:13,840
finish the season and then
realize that the show got

711
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,680
cancelled.
You really going to be pissed?

712
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,320
However, we still got the Ring
of Power.

713
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,480
You know what we're not.
Having the need to chill the

714
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,760
fuck out.
Well, I mean, I like the Ring of

715
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,680
Power, but I like Will of Time.
More.

716
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,320
More and actually more people
really do like the will of time.

717
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,440
So I'm just confused why I got
cancelled.

718
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,400
I mean it had ready.
Power has a contract and Will of

719
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,320
Time did not.
It and it had me like invested

720
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,440
in reading all the books.
I have listened to the lore, I

721
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,520
have listened to things while I
was sleeping at night.

722
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,280
Yeah.
Same, same.

723
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,680
He's shaking the head 'cause he
know he hears it.

724
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,800
I'm like listening to back
stories of everybody.

725
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,520
And you probably did some
YouTube some.

726
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,560
You pause, pause and ask a
question.

727
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,720
I'm sleeping, ma'am.
Answer the.

728
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,800
Show.
Oh my God.

729
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:13,800
OK, so Mike, let's talk about
another one of your favorite

730
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,320
characters in the On the
positive, how do you feel about

731
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,560
what's going on with Matt in the
last couple episodes?

732
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,360
That's funny because this was
the episode.

733
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,200
Episode 5 was the one where he
fought the brothers, right?

734
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,120
He was on the boat with them and
they were said they were

735
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,520
sailing.
They were sailing with those

736
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,080
women who who made like the
Aurora borealis.

737
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,840
Kind of thing.
OK, so that was the episode

738
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,160
before, so.
OK, yes.

739
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,080
Matt fighting with Elaine's
brothers.

740
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,520
Did you get a kick out of that
like I did?

741
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,880
Because I was sitting there,
Anthony and I were talking

742
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,080
about, I think this was the
episode that you missed.

743
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,200
And we were talking about just
how Matt, like, really hadn't

744
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,600
been given anything to do.
And it was just kind of, OK,

745
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,440
what are you guys going to do
with this character?

746
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,080
You gave him a great kind of,
you know, climax in the first

747
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,120
season and then you kind of put
him back.

748
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,360
To where he was and then this
fight happens and I rewatched

749
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,960
the fight the other day and it's
so funny because he's sitting

750
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,880
there he was like 2 marks a
piece and nine he was like oh

751
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,560
Lord, here we go.
And as soon as he started

752
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,880
speaking the whole tongue I said
oh this is about to get

753
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,720
interesting.
Then you had that fight and I

754
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,240
was just.
You know what, to your point, it

755
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:31,560
really seems like Matt's bored
as fucking this this season so

756
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,840
far.
It's like it seems like he he's

757
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,040
sitting there, he's getting his
pictures, he's getting he's

758
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,480
getting his picture drawn with
the horn.

759
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,640
He gives he gives the horn to
Swan and it's like now he's just

760
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,280
like he see his idle hands of
the devil's workshop.

761
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,080
That's what it is.
So you need to give Matt

762
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,840
something to do or he's going to
fuck shit up.

763
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,680
It's like he like like he was on
the boat.

764
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,440
He was like, I'm going up to I'm
going up to the day.

765
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,880
He's like, no, they told us to
stay down here.

766
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,440
Now I'm going up to the fucking
deck.

767
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,480
He's like he he's like with men.
He's like but I'm.

768
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,960
Sorry, if I was in a cabin when
I need throwing up all over the

769
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,200
place I would take my chances up
on deck.

770
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,680
No, I trust me.
I don't blame him.

771
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,440
Like 990, you suck.
I need to if she'll hurry up and

772
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,120
do something.
I swear to with this.

773
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,080
This has been the theme.
This has been the theme since

774
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,600
last season.
It's like, if that's what we've

775
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,880
been saying, we're like, if you
don't hurry up and do something

776
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:28,320
except for throw up and walk
around pouting and mournful and

777
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,160
we're say I don't like, I don't
like these powers like a

778
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,160
powerful.
She's the most powerful

779
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:36,080
Chandler.
And in the last 1000 years.

780
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,720
Look, I'm glad.
I'm glad I see it.

781
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,760
Can I see it right?
Yeah.

782
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,360
If you do something.
Can she feel it?

783
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,560
Can we do some?
I mean, she, I would, I want her

784
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,840
to do something when they were
like like doing the doing the

785
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,800
weaves on on the boat, like I'm
doing the Aurora borealis thing.

786
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,440
I was like, I wanted something
to happen.

787
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,920
Then like just even if they did
like some of the weaves just

788
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,360
magically came to her and
wrapped around her or some shit

789
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,160
and they're like, Oh, that's
never happened before.

790
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,640
She would have been doing
something, but she's still like

791
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:08,840
doing that, but throwing up and
pouting.

792
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,040
I'm like if you don't get your
ass.

793
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,640
But I think that time on the
boat helps her because it gave

794
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,800
her a way to see that you don't
only have to channel the way the

795
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,520
acid, I tell you, you have to
channel.

796
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,920
So hopefully something good will
come of that because yeah, it's

797
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:32,000
like watching paint dry, like,
OK, is it going to change color

798
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,680
today?
No, it's not going to change

799
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,040
color.
It's going to do something

800
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,960
today.
No, it's.

801
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,840
She's still the most powerful
channeler we've seen in 1000.

802
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:48,440
I don't have alcohol, might pass
that through the screen because

803
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,200
yeah, I, like I said, I don't
see it.

804
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:56,240
But yeah, I, Anthony and I
actually recorded just a little

805
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,360
something when we heard about
the cancellation.

806
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,920
And then of course I went out of
town.

807
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:04,520
So I'm still going to post it,
but that I think I can't

808
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,240
remember maybe with Shadow and
Bold, but I can't remember the

809
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:13,040
last time I was that distraught
over a show cancelling because I

810
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,120
sent Anthony.
There was the Wheel of Time.

811
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:21,400
There's a fan club and they have
actually started a petition to

812
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,720
try to get the show saved or
shopped around.

813
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:28,720
And I sent the link to Anthony
and he was like, you're really

814
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:32,280
taking this hard off issue.
And I was like, yes, absolutely.

815
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,600
Because you know, there's a lot,
there's a lot of stuff on TV

816
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,840
right now.
We talk about it.

817
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,360
This is like the golden age to
be a geek because all of our

818
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,960
stuff is on TV.
We're seeing it manifested in

819
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:50,480
film and TV and this and that.
But I don't know, something

820
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,080
about the Wheel of Time just hit
different one, because you have

821
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,680
all the diversity and two,
because it's woman LED and you

822
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,400
don't get a lot of that in, in
any type of media right now.

823
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:09,040
So it's, it's almost like it was
just a like just a, a repeated

824
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,480
stab of the heart.
But I mean, I've, I've seen

825
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,360
they've been, they're trying to,
they're trying to see what they

826
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,040
can do.
The fans have collected.

827
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,480
I think the last time I saw the
petition, it was like maybe

828
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,800
120,000 signatures, which I'm
like, OK, y'all, we can do more

829
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,120
than 120,000.
But they have taken up

830
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,920
billboards around the Amazon
headquarters and they've they've

831
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,920
done billboards on the highways
and Shura Agdashlu actually

832
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,120
reposted the the petition.
She was like, you know, yeah,

833
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,960
the story is over, but there's
still more to come.

834
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,320
We need to say, you know, we we
need to have another turning of

835
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,640
the wheel.
So I'm hoping they can find

836
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,880
another home for it.
But it it's kind of like, I

837
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,560
think Anthony and I discussed
it.

838
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,560
If Amazon don't have the money
to to do this, then who does?

839
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,360
They do have the money.
Amazon got the money.

840
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,720
They got the money.
They don't spend it.

841
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,960
OK, that if Amazon doesn't want
to spend it with me, but I mean,

842
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,400
I'm, I'm like you, Mike.
I'm sitting there looking at the

843
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,680
Mega Millions, but I'm like, oh,
Mega Millions is at 398,000,000

844
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,760
right now.
So if I win, at least 40% of

845
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,840
that is going to go to Uncle Sam
and then I can kind of figure

846
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,720
out the rest.
Like I can help them do this if

847
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:37,640
they really need to do this.
I and I I really, I really do

848
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:43,320
feel passionate about I I really
especially because those last

849
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:49,440
two episodes when you see them,
like you gonna be like, wow,

850
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,200
wow.
And then like, like I said, we

851
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,240
literally had just finished
watching it.

852
00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:00,920
And then like, maybe it, I don't
know, a week, a couple of weeks

853
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,320
after the show, the season
ended.

854
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,320
That's when we got the notice.
And I remember I was sitting at

855
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,800
work and I was just cussing at
my desk.

856
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,120
I was like, oh, I'm so glad
nobody is here.

857
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:27,120
I was mad, mad, but let's see.
Oh wait, OK so tell me where you

858
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,120
are because I I can't remember
because I haven't rewatched

859
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,920
episode 6 yet.
Tell me where you are in regards

860
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:40,840
to Dane and Child Balda and.
And camp that's episode 5.

861
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,560
Yep, I'm glad they got with it.
I'm glad they got what they got

862
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,440
because because they killed
mother and killed the mother.

863
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,120
I'm like and and shout to her
for standing up for that whole

864
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,360
thing in two rivers pissed me
off like fucking the way they

865
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:58,200
did a line Elena like Elena and
and her what what's the.

866
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,840
Alana and Maxim.
Alana and Maxim, like had been.

867
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,720
I was.
I was like, am I crying?

868
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:06,720
I think I'm crying like.
Listen, I was about to riot when

869
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,080
I thought Alana was about to
die.

870
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,520
I was like, oh, I literally sat
up in my seat.

871
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,680
I was like, yeah, I better fix
this because what we're not

872
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,520
going to do?
Like y'all ain't gonna, y'all

873
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,280
not gonna execute her in the
middle.

874
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,360
It y'all ain't gonna gonna like
circle shoot her like that.

875
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,480
Like no, like no man, no, no,
no, no, no, no.

876
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,040
And I'm glad.
I'm glad Maxim.

877
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,160
Maxim came back and regulated a
little bit.

878
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,320
But it's like, I felt so bad
because like, both of them were

879
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,760
suffering.
It's like she like broke off her

880
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,720
bond and they put the bond back.
Then it's like, I'm like, oh

881
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:40,920
God.
Yeah, I didn't get it.

882
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,280
Together it broke my heart and.
I guess it don't matter now

883
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,920
since we ain't getting another
season, I know.

884
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Yeah, I because.
They literally Alana had become

885
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,800
one of my favorite characters.
Like top tier?

886
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,400
Real.
Characters so.

887
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,200
Yeah, she's yeah, I love her and
and she shout to fail and

888
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,400
parent.
I'm like what's up with yeah

889
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,200
like like I I watched episode 6
so I know what's up.

890
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,800
I know what I know what's going
to be up, but I was like seeing

891
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,440
them together.
I was like, OK, and then seeing

892
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,400
the the fucking dream world that
when when she went through the

893
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,560
dream world and saw and saw him
like saw him like doing his

894
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,800
black.
Thing happy with Payel, Yeah.

895
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,640
I was like, oh.
I'm yeah, I'm.

896
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,320
I'm not mad at it.
I'm like, OK, I can, I actually

897
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,840
actually really like that.
It's like, and then like and the

898
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,360
the the said the dust sisters,
like when she said he said I'm

899
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,920
going.
They're like she's coming.

900
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,960
Yeah.
Yeah, I was like, yeah, OK,

901
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,240
alright.
I like, I like this.

902
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,160
I was, I was really good.
Yeah.

903
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,400
I want to talk about Elida.
Yeah.

904
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,760
How about I I we've been loving
looking at her like she she's

905
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,920
got to be she's got to be part
of the blackout.

906
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,080
Like she's got this something
fucked up with her and her ass

907
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,200
goes and try and it gets and
gets jacked up by the great by

908
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,880
the great guy and it's like and
and she's laying there and

909
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,280
salon's above her.
Like I think we've misjudged

910
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,360
your sister.
I was like, it was like, I was,

911
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,680
I was like, she probably wanted
to be like.

912
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:27,800
Bitch, heal me.
She's like, you know, I was

913
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,400
trying to think of who to
compare it to.

914
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,560
She's like the Dolores Umbridge
of, of, of the show, because

915
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,120
Dolores Umbridge, for all her
evil and all that other stuff,

916
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,960
she wasn't a Slytherin and she
wasn't a Death Eater.

917
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,880
She was just a nasty piece of
work.

918
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,160
And so, you know, I'm, I'm
Elida.

919
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,480
Elida, she was not playing, you
know, I was like, she she was

920
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,120
like fucking like the way, the
way she did that one black guy

921
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,160
like twisted her up then like
then broke her neck.

922
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,200
I was like, oh shit, she like
she was pretty.

923
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,120
What the fuck is wrong that that
whole court this making me about

924
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,800
what's her name Evelyn like
what's up?

925
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,600
Like her mother and her whole
court with Gabriel being a

926
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,960
fucking dark friend and.
Oh, Elaine.

927
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,480
Elaine like Elaine like, what
the fuck is up with that?

928
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,880
Well, I mean.
Like like like.

929
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,680
Like.
Fucked up.

930
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:33,480
Raven because you're talking
about the stepdad, right?

931
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,880
Yeah.
No, he's a cortisone.

932
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:41,800
He's a he was a cortisone, Yeah.
Yeah, he just kind of snuck his

933
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,640
way and it was like, oh, let me
alter your memory here.

934
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Let me alter your memory there.
Let me alter this memory.

935
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,840
But I mean, that would explain,
not that, you know, when we go

936
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,920
back and think about it, that
would explain why Leon Leona

937
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:03,200
couldn't remember his name when
he first walked in because he

938
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,800
hadn't had a chance to influence
that room yet.

939
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:13,720
And she was just looking like,
Oh, yes, you guy, I'm so sorry,

940
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:16,880
I forgot your name.
And then once we realized who he

941
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,880
is, it's like, oh, no, he was a
little late to the party putting

942
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,720
putting that into everyone.
But also because they are the

943
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,200
the Isodai.
Maybe it just took a little bit

944
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,480
longer for his.
No, no, OK.

945
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,840
No, no, OK, He just needed a
moment because it's a whole

946
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,280
bunch of them.
Yeah, yeah.

947
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,400
And then that moment, shout,
shout to, to, to lean.

948
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,480
Leanne Leanne Leanne proving
that she's a for once again

949
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,760
proven that she's a she's a well
dressed badass.

950
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,800
Well dressed badass.
I was like, yes, fiercely got.

951
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,160
I I need her wardrobe like.
Yeah.

952
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,280
She kills it all the time.
Need her powers and her

953
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,960
confidence.
Like she is like, yeah, I like,

954
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,240
I really like her character.
Like like, like more and more.

955
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:11,720
Every time I see her on screen
she's just like, I'm just like

956
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,240
Yep.
Yeah.

957
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:15,480
OK.
So before we move on from Will

958
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,400
of time, how you feeling about
Leandra?

959
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,960
Fuck that bitch.
I'm done.

960
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,240
Because like, I'm like, I'm I'm
tired of trying.

961
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,560
You know what it is?
I'm tired of trying to figure

962
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,520
out if she figure out what the
fuck she's doing.

963
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,520
It's like she's doing something
that she seems like she's trying

964
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,120
to help somebody.
Then she's doing something where

965
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,280
she's only trying to help
herself.

966
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,200
Then she's doing something where
she's like, OK, I'm helping.

967
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,560
I'm helping the forsaken.
They all.

968
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,040
I'm kind of going behind her
back and doing this shit.

969
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,120
Then it's like, Oh well, now I'm
doing this shit for myself.

970
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,640
Then it's like, oh, I'm only,
I'm only land fear.

971
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,120
I'm only, I'm only before you.
Then then she's like, OK, fine,

972
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,760
OK, find this shit so we can do
this and this and this and I'm

973
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,200
just like, I'm tired of trying
to figure out she's she's

974
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,120
exhausting.
She is fucking exhausting to

975
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,720
figure to think about.
I'm like what?

976
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:07,120
Like, see, it's just like
everyone else in here.

977
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,080
It's just like, I can't really
think about Moraine that long

978
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,280
before getting a headache.
I'm like, what are you doing

979
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:13,760
now?
Yeah, 'cause you're.

980
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,440
Still trying to figure out like,
OK, we know for the most part

981
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,960
what your your motivations are,
but it's kind of like you still

982
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,920
wonder, OK, so where are you in
this?

983
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,120
Even though I think it's kind of
plain now that she basically is

984
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,160
like, OK, I'm here for the
dragon.

985
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,280
I don't care what that means.
I don't care who I have to hurt.

986
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,680
I don't care who I have to
betray.

987
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,200
The dragon is the priority.
Like Lorraine is one of those

988
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,040
people.
She is singular focused.

989
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,520
If it ain't got something to do
with the dragon, she's like, OK,

990
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,720
that's that's over to the side.
I deal with that later.

991
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:53,200
You know, even in the first
episode when she knew that

992
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,840
something was about to go down
in the tower and Lamb was like,

993
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,400
she'll be OK.
She was like this day is not

994
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,040
about her and turned around and.
Walked.

995
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,560
It was like, oh.
OK, Lorraine is a cold piece of

996
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,160
work.
She can be.

997
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:12,160
OK, let's see.
I don't think there's too much

998
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,160
else we need to say about Wheel
of Time now, because we do still

999
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,920
need to record episode 6-7 and
eight.

1000
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,400
And I think since all of us now
are, we're, we're pretty

1001
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,640
stationary for the next couple
of weeks, right?

1002
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,080
At least we're, we're not going
anywhere.

1003
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,960
So I think we can get those
recorded and put out our our

1004
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,000
very vocal Wheel of Time
follower.

1005
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,080
I put a message out to him.
I was like, hey, we're going to

1006
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,640
take a pause.
We're waiting for Mike to come

1007
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:41,800
back.
And then we're going to do, he's

1008
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,120
like, OK, I can't wait for you
guys to come back.

1009
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,320
So we've got people waiting for
us.

1010
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,720
So we'll do episode 6-7 and
eight within the next couple

1011
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:55,760
weeks.
But let's move on to The Last of

1012
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,760
Us.
Mike, how are you feeling?

1013
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,400
OK, here's the thing.
I, I had to look back because I

1014
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,800
was like, like, I think I only
recorded episode one with you

1015
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:14,480
guys, if that.
I don't think you did any of the

1016
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,600
episodes for this season.
Not.

1017
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,240
For this season.
Yeah, not for this season, OK.

1018
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,520
I think we may have chatted
about it.

1019
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:30,320
OK, All right, so this show
plays with mine, plays with your

1020
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:41,040
emotions so hard.
And episode fucking 2, holy

1021
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,240
shit.
Like I was watching it and I'm

1022
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:45,680
like, 'cause and I, I hadn't
been spoiled.

1023
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,360
I haven't been spoiled yet.
I was lost.

1024
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,080
Fortunate that I hadn't been
spoiled about anything.

1025
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,160
Like not, not even what
happened.

1026
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,240
No, I think it's spoiled.
What?

1027
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:58,680
Nothing.
Not even from the game.

1028
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,240
No, I didn't.
No, not even because I haven't

1029
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:05,320
played the game.
I haven't either, but I knew

1030
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,160
what was going to happen.
I well, yeah, because it's like

1031
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,240
that's all anybody would talk
about.

1032
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:16,240
I I knew, I knew, I knew about
what about, about, about her,

1033
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,560
but I didn't know like how it
was like how it was going to

1034
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,040
happen and like the first
episode and I was like, oh,

1035
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:28,000
she's going after fucking Joe.
OK, so that like that's probably

1036
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,040
going to be a season fan.
I was like, I literally said,

1037
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,040
oh, that's probably going to be
towards the end of the season,

1038
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:39,080
very next motherfucking episode.
I was like what the fuck man?

1039
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,080
And you're dealing with with an
attack on top of all that.

1040
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,880
Yeah, like a that shit was that
shit was scary as fuck, Like and

1041
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,200
and ally's ally's ass.
See, this is what you get for

1042
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,560
get for trying.
See, hate, hate just fucks,

1043
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,440
fucks everything up.
She's over there trying to like

1044
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,520
like looking, looking at Joel
and shit and rolls down the hill

1045
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:04,360
and wakes up fuck wakes up all
the fucking undead like sleeping

1046
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,680
under like how about like the
undead just like pound just like

1047
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:12,320
making making a making a zombie
a zombie duvet out of their

1048
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,240
dead.
Like damn, like OK, that's

1049
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:18,520
creative as fuck, but I but that
shit was scared.

1050
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:23,040
Like the whole thing was like
like the them, them, the way the

1051
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,400
way that they ran and hit the
wall when they were attacking

1052
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,160
the city, Jack attacking Jackson
Hole, like just like slamming

1053
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,640
the fucking.
I'm like whoever y'all hired to

1054
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,920
do that part earn their fucking
money that day 'cause they hit

1055
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:45,200
that motherfucker hard as hell.
And then the fucking the fucking

1056
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,600
but big ass, big ass
motherfucker chasing Tommy.

1057
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,000
I was like, y'all that I was
like.

1058
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,600
That bloater.
Not the bloater bloater chasing

1059
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,080
Tommy and into a fucking alley.
I'm like no, the fuck they're

1060
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,640
not.
I was like no, no no they ain't.

1061
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,400
They can't be.
And I was like OK, good, we just

1062
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,760
haven't roasted mushrooms.
Cool.

1063
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:08,400
But then they go.
I don't want them kind of

1064
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,040
mushrooms.
But it's like that whole thing,

1065
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,960
then it's like, so I watch it
and I'm like this fucking

1066
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,040
heartbreaking.
And I'm like, I love, I love

1067
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,560
Joel who's like fucking he's
Joel to the end where she's

1068
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,160
monologuing.
He's like, will you shut the

1069
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:29,320
fuck up and get on with it?
I was like, I see out like AG.

1070
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,760
He's like, fine, you don't do
it.

1071
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,480
Do it.
I was like, I'm not getting out

1072
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,680
of this apparently because you
already shot my fucking kneecaps

1073
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,920
out.
So I'm so Needless to say I'm

1074
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,320
not walking away from this.
Hurry the fuck up.

1075
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,200
And and it's like, and also
after I watched it and was

1076
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,640
fucking heartbroken with fucking
Ellie curled up and curled up

1077
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,880
against his, his dead body like
Oh my God.

1078
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,400
And then see him watching them
drag the body back.

1079
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:02,560
And I'm like, and then also I'm
like, OK, so I watched, I

1080
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:07,200
watched some reactions online
from people who watched people

1081
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,480
who actually played the game,
who knew what was happening.

1082
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,840
And they had their reaction was
like, they're doing that now,

1083
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,720
like like this, like the I.
Think we all had that feeling?

1084
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,920
Yeah.
Like what I think like people,

1085
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,440
yeah, people who knew like
people who knew like I watched

1086
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,160
their react.
They were, they were, they were

1087
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,080
shook.
They were like I where y'all

1088
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,280
gonna go from here?
Like this is like.

1089
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:37,560
So I so after that, I like, I I
love Luther.

1090
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,280
I love Luther Wright's like
little temporary part in this.

1091
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,360
I thought I thought he was
really good in his episode.

1092
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,640
Oh.
Yeah, the leader of.

1093
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:48,520
Right.
Yeah.

1094
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,080
Jeffrey Wright, Luther.
Goddammit Jeffrey Wright.

1095
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,480
Yeah.
He did play Martin Luther King

1096
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,880
with.
Yeah, yeah, he did.

1097
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:56,800
He did.
He did.

1098
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,640
I was like, I love him in this.
I I can't wait.

1099
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,160
I'm sure he's probably going to
be more in it next, next and

1100
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,120
then the next season.
Yeah, 'cause the next season is

1101
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,440
focusing on Abby.
Right.

1102
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:16,400
So I, I love that I, I really
liked Abby and I like Dina and

1103
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,160
Ellie together.
They because they're, they're

1104
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,600
just, I mean, they're just kids.
I'm like, OK, they're, they're

1105
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,920
just kidding that.
I mean, I love their

1106
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,080
interactions.
Yeah, but they did get a little,

1107
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,840
as Anthony said, they got a
little 2 CW.

1108
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,520
A little too skinny Max.
What you talking about?

1109
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,080
That's, that's skinny Max.
Shit.

1110
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,600
I was like, oh, there go oh, oh,
oh, OK.

1111
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:48,240
I, I, I mean, we, we, we all
knew it's gonna fucking happen.

1112
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,320
It's like, it's not like we
didn't know it's gonna happen.

1113
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,880
And fucking Abby, Abby playing
that fucking guitar.

1114
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,800
Like, first of all, how did you
find, how did that?

1115
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,080
How did that guitar stay whole?
Ellie.

1116
01:00:58,960 --> 01:00:59,920
Ellie how?
Ellie.

1117
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,720
Ellie.
How did Ellie find a whole

1118
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,280
guitar that didn't have any?
That the strings were intact?

1119
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,800
Like that must have been a hell
of a fucking case because that

1120
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,320
thing had been there for like
years.

1121
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,280
Decades that.
That tuning at all, I mean

1122
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,080
tuned.
It a little.

1123
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,680
Bit but.
Yeah, and remember in in season

1124
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,600
1, Ellie Ellie's guitar was
sitting in the court, was

1125
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,480
sitting in the corner.
And he's like, Oh, yes, you're

1126
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,920
you're, you're, you're I'm
strings afraid.

1127
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,520
And then I was like, Dusty, It's
like that.

1128
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,960
That must be a man.
I feel like, I feel like Joe

1129
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,360
Pesci in My Cousin Vinny.
What was this?

1130
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,200
Was this a magic guitar case?
Did you get it from the same

1131
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,120
place Jack got his Beanstalk
beans?

1132
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,920
But I was like, damn.
But this like that part, I was

1133
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,360
like, see, that's like, damn,
that's a good part.

1134
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,960
What do you think about the
stalkers?

1135
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:03,440
No, no, no, like the first one,
like the one one episode 1, the

1136
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:09,920
little little baby one.
No man, like the way she was

1137
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,280
looking.
They just came into that look

1138
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:16,600
like and then like sneaking
around like no, no, no, no.

1139
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:22,920
The part that that was like
weird but beautiful to me was

1140
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,680
the part where she found Noel in
the, in the quarantines in the,

1141
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,840
the, the part where there was
airborne, where, where the,

1142
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,800
where the sports were airborne,
like in episode 26, like, and

1143
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,920
they were sitting there and like
everybody who was in there had

1144
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,760
already gotten infected and they
were just like breathing spores.

1145
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,080
Like that scene was just like
oddly beautiful to me.

1146
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:50,120
Agree.
Yeah.

1147
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,960
Like I was just like, I was
mystified.

1148
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,400
I was just like, dude, like I
don't know why, but that's

1149
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,600
fucking Gord that that was that
was a beautiful, that was very

1150
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:05,160
well done.
And then you see you see Ellie

1151
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:09,480
beating the fuck out of her ass,
even though she's it's like, OK,

1152
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,080
back to OK back to reality.
He had.

1153
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,040
It coming?
Yep.

1154
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,600
I mean, yeah, I, I, I didn't
feel that bad, but that damn.

1155
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,160
See go.
Ahead.

1156
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,120
What you say, Michelle?
No.

1157
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,280
And then I'm on the side
thinking the science of it all

1158
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:31,440
say, OK, so in Seattle they have
the airborne is because it's a

1159
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,800
more of a moisture in the air.
Like I was trying to make sense

1160
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,240
of it all.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, but

1161
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,120
I'm just making sense of it all.
Yeah, I.

1162
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:41,840
Mean.
You know me, I'm like, I want

1163
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,240
someone to explain that.
Sounds about right to me.

1164
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:50,120
Yeah, I mean, it is what it is.
'Cause they were, they were near

1165
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,400
ocean, right?
They were near the ocean because

1166
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:59,520
they had the, they had the boats
and everything on the water.

1167
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,200
So yeah, they had to be close to
the ocean.

1168
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,960
So yeah, that's, I mean.
I don't know.

1169
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,600
It means a lot in Seattle.
I have no idea.

1170
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,200
I just, I thought it was cool.
It was, but I think they tried

1171
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,400
to explain to us by telling us
that that was the first place

1172
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,280
they took the infected.
So those would that would have

1173
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,080
been like the oldest.
Ground Zero that.

1174
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,880
Was yeah, that was like the
oldest place where they were

1175
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,280
and.
Then it evolved.

1176
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,680
It just evolved.
That's the next step in

1177
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,840
evolution, yeah.
That's scary, though.

1178
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,600
That damn.
But that damn season, that

1179
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:38,640
finale, Holy fuck, dude.
First of all, how Ellie.

1180
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,480
Ellie's a sea captain now?
How the fuck did she not drown?

1181
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:42,120
She should've.
She should've.

1182
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,040
Did I?
Not say.

1183
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:49,240
Did I not say this?
Like who is she, Captain Jack?

1184
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,440
Is she Captain Jack fucking
Sparrow now?

1185
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,040
Like fucking going, going
across, going across choppy,

1186
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,120
going across the stormy waters
in the fucking dinghy and

1187
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,600
surviving.
Not once, but twice not.

1188
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,520
Once, but twice.
Yeah, twice.

1189
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:04,720
Yeah.
I was kind of like.

1190
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,400
So where exactly did she learn
how to steer a boat in Jackson

1191
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:15,240
Hole?
Yeah, like, I mean, she, she

1192
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,600
definitely didn't learn in
Boston.

1193
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,400
Definitely didn't, no.
No.

1194
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,640
And I don't know if I feel like
that's something that Joel would

1195
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,600
have been able to do, because
why would he?

1196
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:33,080
Yeah, I feel I feel sorry for
was name Jimmy.

1197
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,480
Don't say it, don't say it.
Don't say it.

1198
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,320
Don't say it, don't say it.
Jimmy.

1199
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,480
Yeah, Jesse.
Jesse.

1200
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:49,160
Well first of all like you got
all the way to them how you just

1201
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:54,840
hear noise like can you sneak
and like look that's why your

1202
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,360
ass got shot soon as you walk
through the door.

1203
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,520
I mean had some common sense.
Did he not learn anything?

1204
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,000
Have have we?
Did we not just finish talking

1205
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,960
about this, Discussing The
Walking Dead?

1206
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,680
Can we not just talk about this?
How people?

1207
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,000
But his adrenaline, maybe it was
his adrenaline but still like

1208
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,200
you know better and then you
tall, you are easy target.

1209
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,600
Again, stretch.
Yeah, bend down a little bit.

1210
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,680
Like bend your back like around
corners and shit.

1211
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,560
Push the door open.
Yeah, 'cause if Ellie would have

1212
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,320
been first, she probably
wouldn't have shot.

1213
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,280
Ellie probably would have hit
like maybe just above her head

1214
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:37,240
'cause she probably was
expecting grown men or grown-ups

1215
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,320
to come.
Because you're not going to

1216
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,080
think that this, that this guy,
I know you're thinking that, oh,

1217
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,480
he killed all my friends.
So you know he's dangerous.

1218
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,280
You're not thinking that he's
there with kids, right?

1219
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,200
So you going to aim higher
because you're smart.

1220
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,120
And he was smart enough to run
right into it.

1221
01:06:55,000 --> 01:07:00,040
However, he he died happy.
He was finding out he was having

1222
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,680
a baby and he was in love with
someone.

1223
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,640
And now the baby ain't got no
daddy because his ass went out

1224
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,960
there standing straight up like
a fucking telephone pole.

1225
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,440
Hey, hey, hey, wait.
Wait, the baby does have a dad?

1226
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,200
Yeah, Ellie says she's dad.
Ellie says she's going to be the

1227
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:22,440
dad, so I had a pappy.
Yeah, that the whole Jesse

1228
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,800
thing, kind of.
And and I'm like now, now I'm

1229
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,240
now I'm worried about Tommy
because Tommy got caught in

1230
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,400
fucking crossfire too.
I'm like God damn, like like

1231
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,240
this whole.
Thing I don't think we need to

1232
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:39,920
worry about Tommy because like I
tell Anthony, I think Dina got a

1233
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:44,640
shot off because Dina is
upstairs asleep, remember?

1234
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,880
So she would have heard the
first gunshot, probably limped

1235
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,920
her way over to the balcony
because Dana is the smart one

1236
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,160
out of all of them.
Dana knows, OK, if I heard a

1237
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,120
gunshot, that means there's
somebody here that's not

1238
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,520
friendly.
Let me try and ease my way over

1239
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,240
here and see what's going on
because nobody's going to think

1240
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,680
to go upstairs, you know,
especially not at that point.

1241
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:12,120
She looks over the balcony, she
sees her, her dead baby daddy.

1242
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,840
And then she sees her girlfriend
or her best friend or her,

1243
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:20,920
whatever they are right now
right here, and this girl with

1244
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,760
the ponytail has the gun on her.
Dina was probably like, what we

1245
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,800
not going to do, bitch?
So I don't know if she killed

1246
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,760
her to kill, I mean shot it to
kill her, or if she shot it just

1247
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,720
to incapacitate her so they
could.

1248
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:38,200
Why we keep having this
conversation?

1249
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:44,479
Hanukkah you don't see.
None of them have been doing

1250
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,880
what they needed to do this
season, so I'm going to assume

1251
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,600
that they probably just shot her
to incapacitate her.

1252
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,439
Maybe she's going to ask her
questions, maybe she's going to

1253
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,640
torture her a little bit.
I don't know.

1254
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:02,080
Doris, Doris Shire her with the
intent to kill.

1255
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:06,359
If she got wings, that's because
she missed and she didn't hit

1256
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:09,960
her cleanly.
But trust me, Dora is not

1257
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,560
pulling the trigger to eat.
We'll see, We'll see.

1258
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,040
We'll.
Because think about you should

1259
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,880
take incapacitate a person with
a gun.

1260
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:21,600
That means they still have the
gun and they're going to return

1261
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:22,960
a fire.
She could have shot her in the

1262
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,560
hand, knocked the gun out of
hand.

1263
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,640
Oh my God, I'm.
Just I'm just saying I've seen,

1264
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,760
I've seen stranger things
happen.

1265
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,240
We have.
So you can.

1266
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,600
Get we watch the.
Walking Dead.

1267
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,720
So yeah.
So clearly that doesn't mean

1268
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,200
that doesn't mean anything.
It doesn't.

1269
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,600
Possible beat shotgun every
time.

1270
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,040
Right.
First of all, nothing's going to

1271
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:49,479
happen to Tommy, Nothing 'cause
we will have a riot if Tommy

1272
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,359
dies, yeah.
You can't take you.

1273
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,320
You look, you already took the
war.

1274
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,160
Brother can't take the.
Come on.

1275
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:02,520
We're not having that.
No Oh, and that that scene

1276
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:07,120
between Ellie and Mel where
she's like when she when she's

1277
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:13,600
like just just cut think my baby
just to Els like this fucking

1278
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,040
show.
Yeah.

1279
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,840
Fucking show.
I'm like.

1280
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,840
And at first I'm like, why she
not doing it?

1281
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,120
Come on now you can do this.
And then I'm like, what the hell

1282
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,200
you going to do with a baby?
If she.

1283
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,400
Doesn't cut the right way.
But if she did make.

1284
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,720
It go die anyway.
What you going to do with a

1285
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:40,560
newborn barely was you barely
got onto the island yourself and

1286
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:51,360
almost died and then go to like
go to a target and find some

1287
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:56,320
infamil like what are we doing?
Yeah, because because that

1288
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,600
that's one brave baby that will
not be breastfed.

1289
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,600
I was.
Going to say she have to turn

1290
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,880
into a mommy real quick.
That doesn't work that way, No.

1291
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,120
And you know, and you got to be
quiet.

1292
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:13,440
Not with a newborn.
Not with a premature newborn at

1293
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:14,800
that.
I.

1294
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,680
Think Anthony, what was what was
it that you said you was like?

1295
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,760
I don't have enough faith in
Tommy and Jesse to raise I.

1296
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,440
Don't.
I did not.

1297
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:27,000
I agree.
I I I have to agree with that.

1298
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,800
The fucking seraphytes, holy
shit them motherfuckers are

1299
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,280
scarier than the fucking wolves.
Like God.

1300
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,360
Damn, they are.
Yeah, the first the first time

1301
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,120
when they when they had like
strung up the strung strung the

1302
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:45,480
guys up in the gym and and had
to gut and cut their guts and

1303
01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:48,920
had their guts coming.
I'm like, I don't like this.

1304
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,080
And then the the bet, the thing
that messed movie is because

1305
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,760
before when they showed the
Sarah fights, they showed them

1306
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,960
walking and try to make you feel
sorry for him, try to make it

1307
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,640
seem like they were like like
they were just helpless.

1308
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,520
They were just they were just
ruining like they're Mormons and

1309
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,640
shit like like they're fucking
this just walking religious

1310
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,640
nomads, not bothering nobody,
just like even though they had

1311
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,800
like Joker smiles cutting their
face, they don't pay attention

1312
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:14,680
to that.
They're they're they're

1313
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:15,960
harmless.
They're harmless.

1314
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,120
It's fine.
It's like, no.

1315
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:23,160
Yeah, you will hear when you go
back and listen to our episodes.

1316
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,960
I I mentioned you quite a bit
when we talked about the Sarah

1317
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,000
fights because I was like, I can
hear Mike in my mind now like

1318
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,880
this fucking show is, is is
misleading us.

1319
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,960
We don't know who to trust you.
You show us the people who look

1320
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,000
like they're nice and they
probably the most deadly people

1321
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:44,320
on the doggone island.
Like right, like you call Ellie

1322
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:47,400
and you just automatically
strung her up and yo, the the

1323
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:52,000
child is like.
Yeah, The thing is like, it's

1324
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,320
like the wolves are afraid of
them.

1325
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,680
The wolves are are the ones with
the armored, with the armored

1326
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,320
tank, armored vehicles and guns
and shit.

1327
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,920
And they scared of them and they
scared of them in fear.

1328
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,680
They won't even go into the
fucking park because they're in

1329
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,520
the fucking park.
Yeah, think about.

1330
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,320
It they went into the park, you
know what?

1331
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:12,080
They're good.
Yeah.

1332
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,680
We're not going in there,
exactly.

1333
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,360
Bro I'm so sad it's like.
I mean, think about that.

1334
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:28,080
It's like people who are armed
to the fucking teeth could.

1335
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,680
I mean, and they could
basically, they could go into

1336
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:35,440
the into the park and form a
line and mow them down, but

1337
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:37,680
they're not going to because
they're scared as fucking the

1338
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,600
motherfucker.
They're like, fuck that shit.

1339
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,880
They can have.
You might be mowing them down

1340
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,080
and you gonna have the little
ones behind you.

1341
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:48,440
Shank, Shank, Shank, Shank.
Yeah, yeah, behind, behind you

1342
01:13:48,440 --> 01:13:51,560
cutting your damn Achilles and
shit like like in pet cemetery,

1343
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,480
like.
Yeah, no.

1344
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,600
But did you?
But yeah, it's like I was, I was

1345
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,680
watching.
I was like, no, this is some

1346
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,520
Children of the Corn bullshit I
ain't fucking with.

1347
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,720
None of these motherfuckers did.
You make that reference to

1348
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:08,680
Anthony.
It is, but that's what it is.

1349
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,560
I'm like Nah man, Nah Nah Nah
but y'all can have you.

1350
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:19,520
Feel about the flashback episode
messing.

1351
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,680
Glad to see your bottom lip
tremble.

1352
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,920
Fucking with my emotions it it
didn't.

1353
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,640
And to make it so bad, it didn't
really get me until the end

1354
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,600
where it's like they brought
back the scene from the first

1355
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,120
episode where she walked past
and when he's playing the guitar

1356
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:40,120
and she and they finally talk
about it and she says I'm trying

1357
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,480
to forgive you.
I don't know if I can, but I'll

1358
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:44,000
try it tomorrow.
I'm like.

1359
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:49,040
I like to try, yeah.
And then he dies the next day.

1360
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,280
That's not traumatic.
At all Like what the fuck is

1361
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,120
wrong?
Yeah.

1362
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:02,720
I was I'm shout, oh, shout,
shout to them for for making

1363
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,800
making transphobes look like
dumb asses.

1364
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:14,760
And I was like, OK, good.
And I and he and he came back

1365
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,400
next day.
I'm sorry, here's some steak

1366
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:21,960
sandwiches.
I'm like, but he but he

1367
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,560
actually, he came.
He came in clutch though by

1368
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,640
giving her a better gun, which
when they were on their way I

1369
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,080
was like alright cool.
Yeah, they are.

1370
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,480
Still, you still cry.
Yeah, right, right.

1371
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,360
But yeah, yeah.
That, that fucking flashback

1372
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:39,120
episode, I was just like, I was
looking at.

1373
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,480
I was like the IT brought me
back to something that Joel said

1374
01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:45,240
in the first episode.
He's like, this is new for both

1375
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,840
of us because my daughter never
made it to being a teenager.

1376
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,040
So I don't know how to raise a
teenager.

1377
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,400
And her being a teenager, not
having been raised by anybody,

1378
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,080
it's like we're doing this like
on the fly.

1379
01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:59,000
And it's like, I was like, see,
that makes that actually makes

1380
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,280
sense because they're they're
basically doing this without a

1381
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,360
manual and not knowing what the
hell what the Hell's going on.

1382
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,720
And they're trying to, despite
everything that's happened to

1383
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,320
them, that is basically a
lifetime of shit that has

1384
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:20,000
happened to them in these scant
567 years.

1385
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,680
Yeah, they basically had a
lifetime of shit happened to

1386
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,200
him.
They're still together and

1387
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,760
they're still trying to be in
each other's lives.

1388
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:32,000
And it's like that.
Oh, that episode.

1389
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:37,760
Fucking shit dude.
Then we had the nice little What

1390
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,440
would you think about the the
person who played Eugene?

1391
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:52,560
What how is he just that once I
love Joe Pantoliano, I was like,

1392
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,080
that's my dude.
I I really I like him and

1393
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:59,760
anything he's he's in like he
was, but fucking Joel again,

1394
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:05,160
like fucking lying this
motherfucker, don't he when it

1395
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,400
comes down to it for like
important shit like this, Joe

1396
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,320
will lie at the drop of a hat
like he don't give a fuck like

1397
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:16,040
anything to if it comes to
survival, he'll give a fuck.

1398
01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:19,040
You like you know, but I'll take
him.

1399
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:27,720
I'll take him.
You know, I mean, it's like I,

1400
01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:33,880
I, and that explains, I mean,
he's, I got to give credit to

1401
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:39,320
what's her name for even trying
to treat him.

1402
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:40,600
Gay.
Yeah.

1403
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,560
Talk to you could get.
I give her props for even

1404
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:47,720
fucking talking, even looking at
him, like even not not spitting

1405
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,560
on him every time she passes him
in the street.

1406
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,680
I mean, but she understood.
I mean, it's like it's kind of

1407
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,840
the cost of doing business in a
zombie apocalypse.

1408
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,320
Like if you get bit, you get
bit.

1409
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,480
It's like you should.
You could do, yeah, but don't.

1410
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,720
Lie about it like yeah, yeah, I
think that was no I.

1411
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,120
Yeah, but I mean, this is Joe.
Like I said, this is Joe.

1412
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:10,280
Joe, Joe will allow anybody to
survive like that.

1413
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,240
That's that's that's been his
MO.

1414
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,320
It's like he's he if he's, if
it, if it means you or him about

1415
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,760
a lie over a lie, he'll give a
fuck.

1416
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,360
You don't.
You don't tell that lie in a

1417
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,000
heartbeat.
But the problem, he didn't read

1418
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,520
the room because if he hadn't
looked anywhere in like he was

1419
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:32,560
so busy avoiding Ellie's gaze
because he knew what he had just

1420
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:37,280
done that he didn't pay any
attention to what was going on

1421
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,760
with her.
If he had turned and just looked

1422
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,320
at her for a second, he would
have shut his mouth because he

1423
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,280
would have seen right there on
her face.

1424
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,760
She would have been like I wish
you would.

1425
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,520
I wish you would.
Yeah.

1426
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:52,920
But he didn't see it, and he
did.

1427
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,800
And yeah, we got to where we
ended up being.

1428
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:01,480
So yeah, yeah, this.
Fucking see, this is a great

1429
01:19:01,480 --> 01:19:05,680
season, man.
Yeah, more, more awards.

1430
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,200
Everybody's getting all kinds of
shit.

1431
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,800
Like God damn.
Yeah.

1432
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:14,720
I really like I love Caitlin
David Deaver in this gonna plays

1433
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:21,080
Abby like I like.
I really I I love Ellie has

1434
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:25,360
taken I'll taking a huge step
forward in this in this season.

1435
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:30,200
I think I think this is she's
she's acting way better this OK,

1436
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,080
like she's doing way better in
this episode and that was like

1437
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:38,120
it since I'm since I'm catching
up with Game of Thrones, I found

1438
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:39,400
are.
You still doing that?

1439
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,400
Yeah, we're on.
We're on season.

1440
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,360
We're right after after Joffrey
gets his and I cheer.

1441
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,160
I'm I'm still celebrating that
so.

1442
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,480
Oh yeah, that was a great
episode.

1443
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,760
Even though I'm mad, I'm mad
they're trying to frame my man

1444
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,280
Tyrion for that shit.
I'm like, really?

1445
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,400
Motherfucker, that was gonna.
Have y'all gonna leave my man

1446
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:00,320
like that?
That's my dude.

1447
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,040
I like he's he's my he's
probably my favorite character

1448
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:09,200
at all out of everybody him and
fucking what's his name?

1449
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,920
But anyway, so it's like.
I've been seeing seeing like

1450
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,720
little snippets of Game of
Thrones and I saw her and her

1451
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,640
role, thought Bella Ramsey's
role in and I was like, oh.

1452
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:24,440
No, yeah, when, when you, when
you get to her, yeah, you're

1453
01:20:24,440 --> 01:20:27,640
immediately gonna be like, oh,
that's my favorite character,

1454
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,120
'cause she, she was only 11 when
she filmed that.

1455
01:20:31,480 --> 01:20:35,960
She knocked it out of the park.
Like holding her own on a screen

1456
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,600
full of men.
Absolutely amazing.

1457
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,680
Yeah, she's really good.
Thank, it's like Tyrion and Arie

1458
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,960
are my favorite characters right
now 'cause Arie is just getting

1459
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,120
into her own with her sword.
I think we're, we're getting

1460
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,880
close to the point, 'cause I
know a little bit, I, I, I know

1461
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,280
what, I know what happens with
her.

1462
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,400
Like I know she's getting ready
to meet the man with no face and

1463
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,000
like, do it get going to like
all that shit.

1464
01:21:00,440 --> 01:21:02,320
So I can't wait to get there.
I can't wait to get there.

1465
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:08,400
So, but yeah, so I, I love, I
love the little parallels and I

1466
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,960
and I saw Pedro Pascal in there
and laugh my ass off.

1467
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,760
That let me tell you.
He's hilarious.

1468
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:20,640
One of the best characters on
that show, period.

1469
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,760
And he was.
Only on screen I think for 38

1470
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:29,280
minutes out of that entire show.
Yeah, he's, yeah, he was, he was

1471
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,360
good.
I like is it's just, it's such a

1472
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,320
random part, just randomly.
Oh, it's Pedro Pascal.

1473
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,600
Like oh shit, where do you come
from?

1474
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,720
Oh look, Pedro Pascal died.
Right.

1475
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,920
Yeah, I was.
Like, OK, he's he's he's trying

1476
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,800
to be the Sean, the next Sean
Bean.

1477
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:53,240
There was a there was a video of
his sister on the red carpet.

1478
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,280
And I think somebody asked her a
question about it, and she was

1479
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,960
like, you know, I see these
things all the time.

1480
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,440
I know that it's coming.
And I knew that it was coming.

1481
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,680
She said, but quite frankly, I'm
tired of seeing my brother die

1482
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,240
on screen.
So she said, you know, she knew

1483
01:22:07,480 --> 01:22:11,760
it was coming in the Last of Us.
I think she said when she saw

1484
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,360
it, she threw her iPad across
the room.

1485
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,560
She was like, no, I'm tired of
seeing him die.

1486
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,280
She's like, even though I know
that that's not real, that's

1487
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,640
still my brother that I'm
looking at on the screen being

1488
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,480
killed.
Yeah, so.

1489
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,520
Yeah, you know, I'm thinking I'm
like, damn, don't do this in The

1490
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,120
Mandalorian.
Fuck around.

1491
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,240
Don't do that to me.
Don't.

1492
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,560
Don't start.
Don't, don't we?

1493
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,800
No, no, they can't kill him.
He has a movie coming out.

1494
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,680
They can't kill him.
Ain't going to bring him to the

1495
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:47,120
big screen then die.
No, that's not going to happen.

1496
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,400
Stranger things have happened.
No, we're not.

1497
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,480
We're not about to have that
stranger thing.

1498
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,120
Let's not even talk about
Stranger Things or else we're

1499
01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:02,200
going to set machine.
The machine.

1500
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,920
Is irked that that show is not
coming on till November.

1501
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,120
But I'm happy 'cause we have
dates.

1502
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,200
Yes, we do.
Michelle has already.

1503
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,240
Told me.
All of her family don't look,

1504
01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:16,960
ain't doing that.
Don't invite me nowhere for

1505
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,320
Thanksgiving, Don't invite me
nowhere for Christmas.

1506
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,640
Don't invite me nowhere.
For the cooking has to be done

1507
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:27,920
before and after I am done.
I don't.

1508
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,600
Oh, I can't wait.
I.

1509
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,040
Know they, you know, they
started tearing down the

1510
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,880
location for Hawkins Lab.
Yeah.

1511
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,720
Down in midnight.
I'm OK with that 'cause I get

1512
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:44,080
closure.
Yeah, not like, real.

1513
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,400
Time they will be in their 40s
when when it comes on but you.

1514
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,560
Like seriously, like seriously.
It's like, like they, they're

1515
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:53,800
gonna be, they're gonna be
retired.

1516
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,160
They they, they gonna be having,
having their retirement dinners

1517
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:57,760
by the time they by the time it
comes on.

1518
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,480
So Erica just graduated from
high school.

1519
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:02,760
I saw that.
Yeah.

1520
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:06,240
I'm like, yeah.
What's what's his name?

1521
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:11,960
Her brother is like 30 now.
Like what the like he got a full

1522
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:13,400
beard and two kids.
I'm like, what?

1523
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:16,480
How you gonna still be in high
school?

1524
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,640
Like how you gonna do that?
Yeah, Those, those it's like all

1525
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,280
of all of them are married now.
It's like what the like they

1526
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:24,840
can't, they can't be kids
anymore.

1527
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,280
They could barely be high be
college kids.

1528
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:32,520
Barely.
Yeah, but but we can, I mean we

1529
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,200
got they look.
At a beard and shit.

1530
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:39,480
Like no, we can't do that now.
We got dates, so that'll be a

1531
01:24:39,480 --> 01:24:41,560
good thing.
I'm wondering if they're going

1532
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,200
to do a time jump, though.
That.

1533
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:47,360
I mean, I kind of feel that they
almost have to because none of

1534
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,200
those kids look like kids
anymore.

1535
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:53,600
They don't even look remotely
childlike, except maybe Millie.

1536
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,280
Bobby Brown can still pull it
off.

1537
01:24:55,280 --> 01:25:00,960
Maybe, maybe will the.
Hard the hardest.

1538
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,640
No, they could because the way
it ended, you go back to the

1539
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:08,120
last episode when they were on
the hill, they all looked old

1540
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:12,000
anyway.
The only person that it will be

1541
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,920
extremely hard is Erica.
Yeah, because.

1542
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:17,720
She was so.
Young.

1543
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:22,880
Yes, They were already older,
just now looking a little bit

1544
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:27,840
more mature.
She was young, yeah, and they

1545
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,520
already was pushing it with her
then how they had her hair kind

1546
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,760
of styled and like a little more
kid.

1547
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,040
You can't.
She probably won't even be in in

1548
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,960
in the season real.
They probably could have got

1549
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,200
Bianca Lawson to do it.
She still looks like a teenager.

1550
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,040
They're probably.
They're probably gonna have her

1551
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,800
have her walk out of her room
and Caleb's gonna be like, what

1552
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:48,920
the hell, She's like puberty.
What?

1553
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,320
Yeah.
So, but that is coming.

1554
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,160
Let's see.
I'm trying to think what there

1555
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,680
was something else about The
Last of Us I want to ask your

1556
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,360
opinion about and I can't think
of it now.

1557
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:07,840
So I'll just have to, I'll just.
Have to miss.

1558
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:14,720
I'm just so excited that Mike
has no idea what is happening to

1559
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,400
know what is going to happen.
Yeah, as.

1560
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:22,600
Far as the Last of Us.
Yeah, it's great because I have

1561
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,880
the information.
It's like I'm tempted because I

1562
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,840
have AI, have APS 5, but I'm not
going to get the game.

1563
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:31,200
I'm not going to play the game.
Yeah, I've, I've heard that

1564
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:36,280
people who get that game, they
literally binge it and like play

1565
01:26:36,440 --> 01:26:39,200
because I think who was it?
Steven Young?

1566
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:44,120
I was watching, you know how
Variety does the actors on

1567
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,160
actors interviews now they're
they're starting to do a lot of

1568
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,600
them and they have them on
YouTube.

1569
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:53,440
So Steven Young and Pedro Pascal
did one, and it's actually a

1570
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,040
really great interview.
But Steven Young was talking

1571
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,960
about, he said when he was
asking about The Last of Us and

1572
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,680
he asked Pedro if he had played
the game.

1573
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:03,960
And he was like, Oh yeah, I
played.

1574
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,480
Steven was like, Oh yeah, I
play.

1575
01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:08,600
He was like, I started playing
in like 12.

1576
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,520
I finished in 12 hours.
And Pedro was like, what?

1577
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:12,840
He was like, yeah, I couldn't
put it down.

1578
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,720
So yeah, I hear that is
addictive like that.

1579
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,880
And I just, I, I don't have the
room in my life or something

1580
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,880
like that.
I don't, I'll, I'll just one of

1581
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:26,840
these days, I'll probably go
watch the game play online.

1582
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:31,240
But like, even my son, my son
has played the video game.

1583
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:36,280
So when Season 2 got ready to
start and Episode 2 was coming

1584
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:41,840
on, Episode 2 had played the
week before and the new episode

1585
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,800
was coming on and I was like,
you've played the game, right?

1586
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:50,680
He was like, yeah, I said, yeah,
this is the episode after that

1587
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,960
happened.
He was like, fuck that, y'all

1588
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:56,600
can have that.
He walked upstairs like, Nope,

1589
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:04,560
not doing this, not doing it.
So yeah, I'm hoping they're not

1590
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,160
going to make us wait for too
long, but I don't even think

1591
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,960
they've started filming yet.
I think, well, you know, Pedro

1592
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:14,760
is kind of busy right now, just
a little bit promoting a new

1593
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:18,080
movie, about to start promoting
Fantastic Four.

1594
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,120
He's a little busy right now,
but I don't think he's part.

1595
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,840
I'm trying to think.
I heard one rumor that they were

1596
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:30,160
going to feature him and some
flashbacks, and then I saw

1597
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,720
another one that said he was
completely done because they

1598
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:38,040
actually did like a rap thing
for him on the flashback

1599
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,480
episode.
So I I I don't know.

1600
01:28:41,480 --> 01:28:43,400
I, I I.
Mean they they could have done

1601
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,920
his stuff for the next season
and just have it ready so.

1602
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:51,080
True, so I just hope we don't
have to wait till like 2027 or

1603
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:54,240
2028.
We don't have to wait till

1604
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:58,640
20/27/2028.
I saw Anthony Space and like you

1605
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,960
going to wait.
We waited two years for this,

1606
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:05,040
two years for this one.
It's.

1607
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,720
Been told let me, let me dream
man, let me hope.

1608
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:10,600
I don't I don't want you good
feelings.

1609
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,040
I don't I don't want I don't, I
don't want you your emotions to

1610
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,520
get played with.
You got I gotta be I gotta level

1611
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:19,680
with you.
I mean, shoot, it's like just

1612
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,800
like Wednesday.
It's like like like Poseley's

1613
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,920
like 665 now.
Like he was, he was like 4 foot

1614
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,280
3 in like the first season and
he's like 6 foot 5 and has

1615
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,280
electrical powers now.
I'm like, God damn, that's just

1616
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:31,280
good.
I can't wait for that to come

1617
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,120
out.
We we have the manager

1618
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,480
expectations and like.
Exactly.

1619
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,640
We want to be that disappointed.
But two, it's been 2 years.

1620
01:29:41,480 --> 01:29:44,640
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

1621
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:49,240
That's why I said, like I said,
appreciate Darrell Dixon cause

1622
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:50,400
every September.
Right.

1623
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,480
You are you correct?
Wow.

1624
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,600
Guess that's how I feel about
Stranger Things.

1625
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,560
It was years, Yeah.
Yeah, 'cause I think they're

1626
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:04,280
already filming season 4 of
Darrell Dixon, so they they

1627
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,560
giving it to us.
Just do it because it's just

1628
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:12,320
like another show I just
finished that nobody's watching

1629
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,640
but Georgia and Jenny.
There's a boy on the show.

1630
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,280
My son watches it.
Mike watches.

1631
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,600
It OK, there's a boy on the
show.

1632
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,920
Like when it left off and how
this season begin.

1633
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:31,160
It's really supposed to be like
24 hours, but it's been a few

1634
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,800
years and he was a kid.
So now he's tall.

1635
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:37,920
You're putting these glasses on
and you try and put them in that

1636
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,160
same classroom.
And luckily the other kids who

1637
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,720
were in the room with him, grown
tooths.

1638
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,720
But you're making them like they
in second grade, but they look

1639
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:52,360
like they in 8th.
But you know, that's when you

1640
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,280
have these gaps and you're
trying to keep the same kid.

1641
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:57,000
Yeah.
Yeah.

1642
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,840
And they don't want to do a time
jump.

1643
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,200
They do it, they do it.
Because the daughter was also in

1644
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,840
high school, so it was her
sophomore year of high school,

1645
01:31:06,440 --> 01:31:10,400
but this boy went from 2nd grade
to 8th grade.

1646
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,160
They can always see what they
did and lost with Michael.

1647
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:15,360
Just write him out the show
because he.

1648
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:17,080
But you can't.
You can't do.

1649
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,560
Well, like a family matter.
Two kids she has two kids I just

1650
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,280
had to get.
A loss reference here.

1651
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,880
I know, but she has two kids.
We can't just throw one away

1652
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:32,400
because he is now taller than
she is and the next season we

1653
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:37,080
get he's going to be taller at
the rate he's growing well.

1654
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,440
So I don't know what they're
going to do about that.

1655
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,040
OK.
So that's that means we need to

1656
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:49,680
stop waiting so long.
Like what are you waiting for?

1657
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,480
Like for me I don't get why
Bridgington takes so long

1658
01:31:53,480 --> 01:31:56,080
because.
People doing the other projects.

1659
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:59,320
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
They be filming it and it's done

1660
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:04,080
and there ain't no special
effects, so there's none.

1661
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:06,480
People got to write.
They got to write.

1662
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,760
But they failed it and we still
don't have a date and there's no

1663
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,520
special effects.
Yeah, yeah.

1664
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,440
I I just want to know.
Because I it's different.

1665
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:18,880
Stranger things have special
effects.

1666
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,240
I get it.
Yeah.

1667
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:27,000
So I understand like, no, I
don't because I was going to say

1668
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:31,680
I understand that when the
pandemic happened, things kind

1669
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,600
of changed and they had to do
things differently.

1670
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:39,720
But now pandemics been gone for
like at at the very least four

1671
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:44,320
years, everybody's been back on
a regular filming schedule, blah

1672
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,880
blah blah.
So I just want to know what's

1673
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,840
up.
Because network TV can crank out

1674
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:56,320
22 episodes in a season, take a
summer hiatus, and come back 3-4

1675
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,680
months later with another 22
episodes, right?

1676
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,760
So I just need to know where
where the big strangers who are

1677
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,720
who are supposedly now getting
all the money.

1678
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,400
What are y'all doing?
Right, 'cause I'm going to tell

1679
01:33:10,480 --> 01:33:16,120
you SVU and they in New York,
they be filming, they be on it

1680
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:20,600
and stories be popping.
So SVU is in what, the 20 like

1681
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:25,400
200 and 90th season by now
season.

1682
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,840
It's going a lot.
They doing a lot of them.

1683
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,720
Yeah, yeah, they.
Don't have any special effects.

1684
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,720
Don't, don't.
So that means the shows that

1685
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,440
don't have special effects
should be able to come out.

1686
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:39,760
Like Bridgerton, right?
We don't.

1687
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:41,720
Have Georgia and Jenny.
They don't.

1688
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,200
Have.
Costume.

1689
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:44,640
Yeah, Georgia.
And.

1690
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,040
Jenny took like 5 years to come
back.

1691
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:48,840
She's been in jail for five
years.

1692
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:52,560
That's what she was, that's.
What I'm saying that there's no

1693
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,320
special effect.
It's just like the Gilded Age is

1694
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,320
the same way Gilded Gilded Age
takes like 2 years to come back.

1695
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,960
I'm like Oh my God, one of my
best.

1696
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:02,280
Friends was complaining about
that.

1697
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:06,600
She was like I can't believe Max
is making us wait till 9:00 PM

1698
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,920
to watch this show.
Like that's how we felt with the

1699
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:10,840
Last of Us.
I'm like I'm paying for the

1700
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,960
streaming service and I still
got to wait till 9:00.

1701
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:19,400
At least with AMC at 3:00 AM
which is midnight in LA.

1702
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,720
OK if I want to watch my show I
can watch it Max.

1703
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,720
Nope.
Absolutely not, Max.

1704
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,960
But Mike, do you have anything
else you want to talk about?

1705
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:34,120
Do you feel sufficiently like
you're back now you're you're

1706
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,440
ready to jump back into things
and.

1707
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:42,240
Yeah, I'm, I think, yeah, I'm,
I'm getting better.

1708
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:47,800
I talked about it on my on my
Facebook, but but those don't

1709
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:52,040
know I was out because I had to
have my prostate out because

1710
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,360
they found cancer in my
prostate.

1711
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,360
I'm happy to report that the
prostate didn't grow in my

1712
01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,880
prostate didn't grow.
It was very it was still

1713
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:03,680
contained in my prostate.
So I'm going back every in about

1714
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,360
next month to for another
checkup just to check my levels.

1715
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,560
For everybody listening, go get
tested.

1716
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,400
If you're over 50, you think
most of us are 50 in our 50s

1717
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,800
now.
Welcome here.

1718
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:18,000
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.

1719
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:18,920
Michelle.
Oh.

1720
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:22,080
But she doesn't have a prostate
to check, so that doesn't apply

1721
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:24,760
to.
Her but yeah, from all my guys

1722
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,640
get go go get go get a blister
simple blood test and just make

1723
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:32,240
sure that your that your levels
are OK because it's like you

1724
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,880
never know and it's better to
catch it early than to catch it

1725
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,120
late.
And that's just my message.

1726
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:39,800
I'm doing good.
I'm glad I got it.

1727
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,840
I'm glad I caught it early.
My cousin early had went through

1728
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:47,080
this or went through the same
thing earlier this year, Like

1729
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,080
no, last year, like late last
year, he went through the same

1730
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,240
thing, had the same surgery and
do the same thing.

1731
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,080
So he's been my cousin Eric
Cook.

1732
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,400
Shout out to him.
He really helped me along with

1733
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:01,520
my family, my friends,
everybody's been really good.

1734
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:06,960
So it's good to be back.
Just, you know, now, now I gotta

1735
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,280
make up all the money that I
missed for a month and 1/2.

1736
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,520
Yeah and yeah.
Look, I think some of us need to

1737
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,320
make up money and we didn't miss
a month and.

1738
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:17,840
That's.
Correct.

1739
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:19,800
Y'all going there?
I'll go on cruise and vacations

1740
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,320
and shit part.
Well, that part too, but you

1741
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:23,600
know.
So I seen you.

1742
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:24,480
I seen you.
Yeah.

1743
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,200
It's good to be back.
I look forward, look forward to

1744
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,720
recording on everything,
including Ironheart, including

1745
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,760
the last couple episodes of Real
Time.

1746
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,080
Yep, I'm looking
forward-looking, forward to

1747
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:35,840
recording and all that, and it's
good to be back.

1748
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:41,240
Yep, it's good to have you back.
And we would definitely, now

1749
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:45,480
that I think everyone has gotten
vacations out of their system, I

1750
01:36:45,480 --> 01:36:48,320
think we can get back into,
well, I don't think we can ever

1751
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,960
get it out of our system, but I
think our pocketbooks are

1752
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:52,680
telling us to get it out of our
system.

1753
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:57,000
So I think we're going to go
ahead and get those last three

1754
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,760
episodes, Wheel of Time out the
way.

1755
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:02,680
We're going to start on
Ironheart and then we are in

1756
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:08,200
convention prep.
So July 18th through 20th we

1757
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,600
will be appearing at ATL Comic
Convention.

1758
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:15,880
We will be doing, I think
amongst the three of us, there's

1759
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:20,240
six panels that I know for sure
that are being done for Walking

1760
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:24,640
Dead panels, a Last of Us Season
2 discussion and Interview with

1761
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:28,800
the Vampire Season 2 discussion.
So we will be doing that July

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18th through 20th.
And then of course, you guys

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know the big one for us, Dragon
Con is coming up.

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We don't have any confirmed
panels yet that we can share.

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Let me say that I do have 6
confirmed panels that I am on,

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but we can't publish that yet
until Dragon Con gives all of

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the track directors approval to
publish their schedule.

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So once we have that
information, we will bring that

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to you.
But for now, that is it for our

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show.
You can find us online at

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www.phantomhybrid.com.
We are on social media, on all

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the social media at Phantom
Hybrid.

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You can chat with us on our
Discord channel, you can watch

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our videos on our YouTube
channel, and you can listen to

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us on all major podcast
streaming platforms.

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Thanks for listening.
We hope you're joining the

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conversation.