Sept. 17, 2024
The Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon S1E3 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #307
#thewalkingdead #TWD #daryldixon The group's stop in Algiers fails to provide the help needed, but they find some much needed allies in Paris. Cadron meets Madame Genet and offers his services to hunt down The American. Isabelle returns home to collect items to barter with, but is confronted with a sad reminder of her past. Daryl's search for a boat leads to an old acquaintance of Isabelle's, which leads to complications.
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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here
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with Michelle and Casey after a
very, very extended hiatus.
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We are so sorry, but life has
been lifing.
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Yes, absolutely.
Some of us have been traveling,
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some of us have been sick.
We all went to the camp, which
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is The Walking Dead convention
that is here at the end of May.
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We went to that, had a fabulous
time, and now we're like, OK, we
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need to finish up these Daryl
Dixon episodes, especially since
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we have a Season 2 premiere date
now.
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September 29th is when it's
coming back.
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Great because that means that
this is probably the quickest
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spin off to come back because
they just premiered last year
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last September, remember, right,
right after time.
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So this is right around a year.
Great.
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We're getting season 2, the book
of Carol.
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They've been showing some of the
trailers, which have been great,
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and we probably will do a
separate show to break down the
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trailers and talk about that a
little bit.
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But we're going to get into
episode 3 of Daryl Dixon.
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And let me say the beginning of
this episode, I was looking at
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the screen trying to figure out
what the fuck I was watching.
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Like this dude in the theater
with the Walker band.
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I was like when I watched this
episode, I said, Oh my God, I
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hear Casey and I hear Michelle.
No, excuse me, let me stop.
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I hear Michelle in my head right
now like.
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What the fuck is?
Wrong with this?
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Well, you know, you have to have
some type of entertainment, you
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know.
I mean, and if he's been living
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there this whole time, I think
we've already established this.
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This timeline right now is
probably somewhere between the
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15 and 20 year mark.
If he's been there in that
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theater by himself the whole
time, you're gonna lose a couple
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of your marbles.
Yeah.
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But he not by himself.
Remember Brian's in the kitchen.
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You really?
Think somebody in the kitchen,
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girl.
No, he thinks, somebody in the
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kitchen.
Brian up on that stage.
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Well, I see.
I'm going to defend him.
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So he was being very creative,
innovative because he was
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lonely.
So it's, you know, I would like
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to hear some music.
I ran out of my records.
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So why don't I use my resources
wisely, OK?
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So.
So we've seen this before.
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We saw it in the main show with
Princess and her her little
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diorama of the walkers on the
streets.
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But you know what the?
She wasn't creative enough to
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make a band.
OK, but but here that's true
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too.
Here's the big.
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She was limited.
No, I won't even say she was
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limited.
Princess was smart.
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She was like, I'm not about to
make a lot of noise.
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I'm not about to draw a whole
bunch of folks, a whole bunch of
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walkers, a whole bunch of people
who might have some nefarious.
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Yeah, no, she, hers was quiet.
It was still entertaining, but
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it was quiet.
I need to know how this dude has
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survived for so long with these
walkers tied up to these
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instruments and that street is
not swarming with.
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Walkers.
Because it's a theater and you
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know, theater and the sound they
make it where you can't, they're
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not gonna hear how the.
Street heard the sound.
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I'm just gonna.
Say, 'cause at the end when
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they're coming out it, it was
some sound.
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I'm just helping them out like.
No.
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There is no and you know and you
know the lack of walkers in the
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area.
Period.
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But they sure came this time.
After Darrell shot that.
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But you know, the the the bang
from the shotgun is probably
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more specific.
The loud from the music, it's
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probably in the air.
Yeah, it's flowing in the air it
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honestly.
Is wait the pinpoint always
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coming from this building?
So yeah, I didn't ask y'all to
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make sense right now, no.
It's making noise in the
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atmosphere, but that.
When it's flowing, they don't
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really know where that that
sound is coming from.
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OK, I I will accept that because
it did sound like he had
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speakers set up so I it probably
did deflect the sound but still
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it was like one he doesn't seem
like he has.
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I'm trying to think of a nice
way to do it.
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The elevator is not going to the
top.
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It's not, I'm just trying to
help him out.
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It's not if that's just a a side
effect from being alone for so
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long, or if this was the way he
was.
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I'm assuming it probably wasn't
the way he started out because
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if he actually had a working
radio, if he actually was able
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to communicate with people, you
know, I don't know what happened
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to the radio.
Maybe maybe something died,
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maybe it broke.
He couldn't fix it.
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And that's why he started you
because like you said, he
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probably had to entertain
himself.
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You don't have a, a, a
connection to the outside world
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anymore.
And if you've been in that
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theater the whole time, you're
probably scared to leave.
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But my question is how did you
get the walkers and actually
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like get them set up to where
you were able to secure them to
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these instruments so that they
don't break loose they and like.
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And bite you.
I don't know.
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It's a dangerous, that is.
Because like, we know Michelle
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will cut the mouth off like
nobody else thinks of that.
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Like, you know, 'cause, 'cause
even even with the way you got
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them tied up and, you know,
somebody always and and, and
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they end up breaking free, you
know, if you did the cause do
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the Michonne and just cut the
jaws off they get.
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But nobody ever thinks of that.
But no that.
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If you won't use.
The Walker for protection or
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entertainment or any of these
other millions of reasons that
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you do what you do, why wouldn't
you protect yourself so that it
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won't kill you?
He wasn't thinking this plan all
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the way through.
Clearly, Very clearly.
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How long, like how often do you
have to change these walkers
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out?
Because I'm going to assume that
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you can't keep a Walker like
that for 15 years without some
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type of deterioration, without
some type of breaking down of
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the skin, the muscles, the
tissues, the bones.
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You have to be replacing these
things.
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Like who is doing that?
I don't.
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I.
Think Michelle, he's doing that
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is just like, it's just like
when you have to work on your
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instrument, like the strings
have to be replaced, those type
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of things.
And that's what he does.
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So when he won't?
Bite you back.
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Right.
However, I don't know how he is
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doing it, but we also have to
think he is musically inclined.
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He could be a genius and being
by yourself not being able to
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actually have deep conversation
with other adults on your level
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has drove him mad.
I wish the people who are just
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listening to audio only could
see the faces we are making
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while we're trying to justify
with this guy.
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Justify.
Why he crazy as a jaybird?
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I mean.
Because you got to think
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somewhere out there there's a
person who likes chess and they
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have a Walker on the other side
of the table with their hands
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holding chess pieces and they
move it with strings to feel
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like they're playing chess with
someone.
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You're right, 'cause I mean if
you lonely enough and you like
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fuck, let me talk to let me talk
to dead Fred or something,
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'cause you, I mean at some point
you.
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Right.
So you gotta think no, right?
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You got somebody who like play
cards, they got some.
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You got like three people at the
table with them with cards and
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they hang in.
But cut their mouth off, That's
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true.
But he doesn't know.
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He doesn't know.
He won't know until he get
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beaten.
And then he needs to do that.
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Yeah.
And and be too late.
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It's.
Too late and the music.
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Stops so oh.
But the music don't.
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Stop as as much as I'm sitting
here free.
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When I'm go from get free and
get his ad they.
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Are see, that's, that's my
concern because I'm like, again,
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you can only use those same
walkers for so long.
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I mean, they did look somewhat
deteriorated.
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So maybe this was a more recent
thing for him.
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Like I said, I don't think he
has been in this mindset the
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whole time.
It just, it doesn't make sense.
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He just started off with
somebody with tambourines.
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Or the drums.
Remember he had the little thing
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they hands.
Wrapped right.
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So then he after one, he was
like, OK, I got this.
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Let's go capture a Walker.
The funny one.
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Is the harpist one.
It's just the head hanging out.
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I was like, so done.
I was so done.
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But The funny thing is, as much
as I'm sitting here voicing my
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concerns and voicing my
disbelief that this man has
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created this little system, I
was still a little bit annoyed
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with Darrell because Darrell was
like, are you fucking kidding
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me?
Like this is a waste of time.
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Yeah, he said.
This was a stupid detour.
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This was a.
No, this may have been a lot.
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He's been alone for how many
years?
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You have had family around you,
you've had people that you care
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about, you've had other
children.
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Right, people he care about that
he trying to get back to and you
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can't say you got a damn radio
and you didn't use the parts for
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you got damn Walker Symphony
over there.
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Well, he didn't actually say it.
That was what Isabel has said,
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because this was someone they
had communicated with before.
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So what?
Was that if he done destroyed
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the damn radio already?
Yeah, but she did it.
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She.
Wouldn't have known it, she
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wouldn't have known it.
And I'm I'm going to take a
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break real quick to apologize in
advance if y'all hear a lot of
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stuff in the background.
We have a brand new kitten in
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the house and right now him and
Leia are currently at a
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standoff.
So there's a lot of hissing
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going on in my room.
So if it picks up, that's what
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it is.
Nobody's dying.
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It's just, you know, not a lot
of hissing.
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Yeah.
You should hear it over here.
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I'm like somebody sounding like
a Walker right now.
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Just with all the growling and
all this other.
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They said it's only room for one
of us up in here.
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Tiger Lily has not even come
upstairs.
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She has not come upstairs since
I brought Apollo home.
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She comes upstairs using the
litter box.
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Who is this new person who goes
with downstairs?
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Yep, like why did she do this to
me and.
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You know, and, you know, she had
the conversation with herself.
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Like, I only have one person to
contend with.
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And and she was, you know, the
hierarchy of the house.
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I only have one person I had to
deal with.
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Yeah.
This new person.
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Yeah.
So also those of us who are
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those of you who are watching,
if you happen to see our newest
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podcast host pop up in the, you
know, in in the camera, that's
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Apollo.
So anyway, going back to this
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theater, so at the end of last
episode, you know, after the
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Abbey was attacked and
everything, Daryl and Isabel,
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we're trying to figure out where
they were going to go.
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Daryl was like, we need to go to
Paris, and Isabel was the one
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who actually said, no, let's go
to Angier because there's a guy
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with the radio there.
He may be able to help you
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communicate with someone back
home so we can get you home.
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OK, so obviously this doesn't
work, but I think in a sense, I
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would say the detour probably
helped them and at the same time
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didn't help them because we see
that Codron has looked at the
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map.
This is the big gorilla dude who
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thinks Daryl killed his brother.
He looked at the map that was at
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the Abbey and he sees that their
destination is Paris.
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So he's like, OK, I'm going to
go to Paris and find him.
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The thing is, OK, y'all aren't
in Paris right now, so maybe
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y'all can miss each other.
I don't think that's going to
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happen, but maybe you invite
each other at least, you know,
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we we see at the end of it it
doesn't.
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But at the same time, I feel
like if they had had it, we'll
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get to that.
Part see.
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I'll get him quick and feel
though, but we'll get there.
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But but I think because he went
straight to Paris, he didn't
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take the detour.
See Darren them took the detour.
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I think if.
They would have.
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Stopped.
If they had.
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Gone straight to Paris.
They'd have gotten there quicker
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and Daryl could have been gone
at that point.
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Because you know what?
We find that once they do get to
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Paris and they find, they find
the people that Isabel had been
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communicating with, or that's
part of this big movement of
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theirs that kind of focuses on
Laurent being this little savior
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figure.
Their method of communication is
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homing pigeons.
Girl, Daryl was so hot.
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Like what is this shit right
here?
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And I mean, OK, again Darrell,
you got to understand you are in
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a whole different country.
Things are just a little bit
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different.
If you didn't notice this in the
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1st 2 episodes, you definitely
know that in this one, you guys
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exploding walkers who are
getting up from falling out of
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two and three and four story
apartments.
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They are falling on the ground
going splat and getting up and
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kind of cracking their neck, you
know, and keep going.
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What, You've already seen the
burn and walk.
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Isabella standing there like she
ain't never said if she.
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Don't.
OK.
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So I think she was traumatized
because she saw the little girl
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that she had told to go home.
You know that in that first
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episode?
Yeah, hurtfully.
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And she told the little girl,
Amy, to go home.
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So to come into the courtyard
and to see her zombified corpse
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stuck in brambles, I was like,
first of all, how did she get
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there?
And I'm thinking before she made
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it to her house, she probably
got attacked.
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Remember when Isabelle Quinn and
her sister were leaving, there
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was a car crash right outside
the building.
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And at that point people were
turning like almost instantly.
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So it's possible that somebody
from that accident or maybe just
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somebody else who had been
attacked came across the little
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girl, attacked her and she just,
she ended up not going anywhere.
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And then the the kind of the
tree branches and the Ivy and
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everything just kind of grew up
around her.
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And now she's stuck.
And it's just, I think she was
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traumatized by that because, I
mean, anybody else probably at
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that time probably would have
thought, hey, I don't know
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what's going on.
I don't know where your parents
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are getting the car.
I'm not leaving you here to die.
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I mean, cause at that point, the
world is kind of falling apart.
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Nobody would exactly accuse you
of kidnapping a child.
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You know, you say the child.
And chances are, I mean, if she
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ended up in that courtyard,
chances are her parents didn't
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make it either.
Her parents could have been two
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of the people that fell out of
those fell.
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Out the.
Window yeah, but I was like you
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you have the burning walkers
because they were used one of
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those burning walkers to kind of
burn away the branches when they
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couldn't get out the door.
I was like, OK, he's.
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I like that.
No.
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His feet, yes.
Inventive.
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Innovative, right?
But but you have all of this
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stuff going on.
You're seeing things in France
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that you have never encountered
in your area, you know, in the
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States, whatever.
So maybe do things a little bit
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differently.
Maybe a home and pigeon is the
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only Safeway.
Well, first of all, I mean,
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honestly, that's what we used in
the past.
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So.
And that's what he said, that's
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what Master Raymond said.
And I, I'm gonna call him Master
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Raymond, 'cause I can't think
of.
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Right, so I'm kinda be like,
come on, Daryl, we gotta get on
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the same page.
See, we need to be like this at
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home.
We don't have other ways, OK?
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You can't text a friend, right?
And I'm sorry, these monkey
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talkies, these walkie talkies,
you really should be dead.
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But you know.
I mean, we've had this
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conversation and and they're not
reliable.
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I mean, you know.
So the pigeon, you know.
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States listening to Carol on the
radio, trying to tell you
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somebody came home and of course
the name kind of cut out so you
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can't hear so the so the radios
aren't even.
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Like so a a a pigeon.
Come on now, a pigeon is not
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going to fly from France to
America.
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No, we no, we're not going to
have bats.
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No, you got.
Stops just like a train station.
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No, there ain't no stops from
that pigeon, isn't there?
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I'm just.
Saying over the ocean, he ain't
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got nowhere to land if he.
Gets no no, he can't take no
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break.
No, sit on the.
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Water he However, it's something
we can use locally and it's a
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great idea.
We going back to our, you know,
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it's going back to our roots,
the communication.
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Is going to be I don't know, but
I mean, maybe it doesn't have to
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go all the way to the states.
Maybe it just needs to go to
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another station where another
wherever, wherever the pigeons
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are going.
And maybe they those people have
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a radio and can call to the
states, you know, so that's what
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I'm thinking.
I'm not I'm not saying that
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they're relying completely on
the homing pigeons.
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This particular group is having
to because of course, as we see,
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they don't have a radio.
You know, but it's the best
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form, it's the best form of
communication because honestly,
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the radio, if you're trying to
be sneaky and using the radio,
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somebody else made listening on
the radio, but the bird, they
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don't know which bird is your
bird.
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And unless you absolutely know
that that is an actual messaging
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system.
Right I.
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Think to look at a pigeon and be
like, oh I need to shoot that
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down right 'cause they
containing a top secret message
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like who's?
Thinking that, well, they
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should, because again, that's a
form of communication that's
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reliable.
However, you just don't know
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which bird to shoot.
But again, who if you hungry it
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don't?
Matter which bird you get or
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what message he really well,
'cause I'm sorry at at this
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point.
I mean, they have a system where
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they have gardens and ways to
produce food and for the people
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that's out there, they can't.
I see a bird, I'm like every
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Tuesday around 3:00 I see this
bird come by.
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I'm gonna get his ass and he
gonna be lunch.
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And then you when you when you
chewing.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You chewing, you be like, what's
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this, a piece of paper?
Why would hold up the mess of
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the?
Paper before you actually cook
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the birds like.
No, no, no they not.
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Some people be so hungry they
putting it on there with the
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feathers and all on the spigots.
Just boom boom Krispies get a
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skiing.
Because if a zombie apocalypse
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like that happens, I'm I'm going
to starve.
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You're not going to find me.
You're not going to find me
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eating pigeons with feathers,
and you're not going to find me
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eating raw turtles off the
ground.
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It's just not about to happen.
It's not going.
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Oh my gosh, that's nasty.
It's just I'm.
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I mean, I'm just saying we've
seen it.
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It's not going to happen.
Eating it was just trying to
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survive somehow.
I know.
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Still not gonna happen.
I think I have enough meat on my
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bones to last me for a minute.
I will just.
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Yeah.
No, we won't do it.
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You have to be like the the
little kid on the golden shower.
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He's.
Ate a leaf a day no OK goodness.
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So let's talk about this group.
So it's interesting because as
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they're walking to Paris, they
start having conversations and
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you see again, Laurent opening
up a little bit more to Daryl,
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but I also think you see Isabel
opening up as well.
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I will say this.
I know she been open but.
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Well, I mean as far as like.
With Laurent, I know I'm just
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no.
'Cause we're, we're about to go
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there, 'cause you, you were
pulling, you, you were pulling
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the direction I was coming.
I feel kind of feel like they
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are trying to give us this
little like semi romantic vibe
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between Isabel and Darrell.
And I am not here for it.
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Like I can understand there
might be a little bit of
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tension.
I mean, Isabel has been a nun
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for the last however many years
and we clearly see in this
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episode she was not about that
life before this apocalypse
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happened.
You know, we saw it from the
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fall of Paris.
She was a party girl.
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She was a drug addict.
Apparently.
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You know, she also has some
issues.
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We see where Quinn talks about
how he found her in the bathtub
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after she tried to kill herself.
He was the one who took her to
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the hospital nurse to the house.
So we know that they she ain't,
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she's not the stereotypical
image of what we think a nun is,
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right?
And she even said that Darryl,
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when they go back and find her
old stash of drugs and stolen
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things, she she.
Changed her ways.
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Yeah, I wasn't always a nun.
He was like, I see that.
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It's but I don't look at them as
romantic.
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I don't see Darryl as having a
romantic feeling for her.
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I think it's more protective.
And, and I get that, but I feel
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like, I feel like there's an
undercurrent that they're trying
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to I, I don't know, like it.
It almost feels like they're
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suggesting it.
And I'm just like, I don't wanna
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see it.
I didn't get that.
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It's kind of, it's kind of hard
to 'cause when you know, when
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you're in Paris, you know, it's
just so hard.
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What?
I don't even.
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Know if it is, it's just so
hard.
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It's just, you know, it's not
like we, you know, in the forest
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in Atlanta.
It's just this is a different
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vibe going on and then they and
they may not be that's what I'm
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saying.
It may not be says to it's just
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that you just it's just that
vibe in the air for everybody.
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You know, you know, everyone may
breakdown.
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I mean, I think, you know,
that's why that man went crazy
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and made his, you know, Walker,
you know, it's that vibe, you
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know, you just, and he's like
American in Paris.
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It's something new, something.
Because not only is she saying
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the stuff, for those of you who
are just listening, she sit
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here, she got the, she got the
little look going to the camera,
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she got the the little head
shaking.
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She's shimmying her shoulders a
little bit.
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So she's saying that that's not
the vibe, but she's also saying
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that's a little bit of the vibe.
I'm not, right?
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It is.
And if she starts speaking
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French to be like, oh, yes, I
mean, this is different.
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This is different.
That's why he not like he
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normally is at home.
It's like a vacation, you know,
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you everybody know this.
You go on that vacation,
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especially if you kind of sing
and you just be vibing, vibing.
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That's what he's doing.
I can't.
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And it's gonna end 'cause she's
not gonna leave and he's gonna
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go home.
So, you know, and she just so so
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they can't make him have no real
relationship.
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I don't feel like it's a blatant
thing, I just feel like it's
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kind of like it's.
There they just trying to throw,
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they're trying to make, they're
trying to throw it out there.
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It's like Connie, they threw it
out there, but they just didn't
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like.
It's like fishing, no?
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Connie that that was a that was
a thing like.
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It is it was a thing for us with
you they together.
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So what I'm trying to say is it
seem like all these women when
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they get around there or the sun
around there, especially when he
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clean.
And that was the other thing I
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was going to say because I feel
like even though there is that
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little undercurrent there of
whatever it could be, I also
443
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:09,240
feel like they're they kind of
using it to show maybe not
444
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,840
necessarily Daryl's sex appeal
or his attractiveness, but just
445
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,600
the fact that for all of these
women that he has been around
446
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,200
where there's Carol, Leah,
Connie, whatever, he's a safe
447
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:30,640
space when I and I do feel that,
but the the vibe to me still
448
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,240
comes off a little bit weird.
You.
449
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,120
You.
Point with that vibe when she
450
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:38,600
was bathing him, which could be
a point but you went with that
451
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,120
too when she was giving him a
bath it.
452
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,840
Was not because I was like.
I don't even sound like giving
453
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,000
him a bath, but you know, that's
what she did though.
454
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:50,080
Like that would don't didn't
even open up to the people he's
455
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:55,640
lived with for years that that
freely so but that for bad.
456
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,600
That for bad.
Yeah.
457
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,320
I mean, he gave him when him and
Beth was together.
458
00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:06,720
Yeah, they opened up to each
other a lot, but.
459
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,360
Yeah.
But I think also because there
460
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:15,080
was a, there was a bit of a
kinsmanship between him and Beth
461
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:19,040
because I because both of them
were damaged in different ways.
462
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,800
And I think that's why they
gravitated towards each other.
463
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,160
And I think had we had Beth
lived, I think you would have
464
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,280
seen the type of relationship
that he had with like, say,
465
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,360
Rosita where it was.
And I know that there were some
466
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:38,240
people who shipped those too.
I just don't understand Darrell
467
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,680
because.
Darrell and Rosita.
468
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,640
No.
Darrell and Beth.
469
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,240
OH, there were people who
shipped Daryl and Beth, but I
470
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,120
think with that vibe, I think it
would have been more like Big
471
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:56,040
Brother.
I can see here sorry, so how?
472
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Can you see Daryl and Beth?
But you can't see what they're
473
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,640
doing here with Daryl and
Isabel.
474
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:05,560
I didn't say I couldn't, I'm
just saying Isabel had been and
475
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,560
you don't need a man.
That's not what I'm saying.
476
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,840
So don't get this from this, but
Isabel last man was an asshole
477
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,520
and she with no man sense and
the man who is a good kind man,
478
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,480
you can see it in his eyes comes
along.
479
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,120
You can't help it though.
You can't help to fill the pool.
480
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,800
And Darrell already pulls.
He's that type of personality he
481
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,200
pulls now.
If it was the dare what we first
482
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,040
met, Nah, this relationship
wouldn't have been.
483
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,960
Happening but this Daryl here
the ears on the the the.
484
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,320
Yeah, that that would she would
have been like.
485
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,280
But this Daryl here where you,
even though you can protect your
486
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,080
own self, you feel safe.
He gives off the vibe that he
487
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,400
does not judge, that he actually
is listening, even though he's
488
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,240
quiet most of the time.
Yeah, you're gonna have a vibe
489
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,160
with him and yeah, you're gonna
wanna have to screw him too.
490
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,840
However, this ain't a long term.
Relationship No 'cause Darren
491
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,320
needs to go home.
There's too much 'cause.
492
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,480
He gonna go.
I feel like he gonna go home.
493
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,720
So what's gonna happen?
Either she dies or she stays,
494
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,240
but she not coming to America.
Yeah, I don't see that,
495
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:27,280
especially not with Laurent
being the figure that they have
496
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,040
made him out to be.
Like they have literally, I
497
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,920
don't want to say promote it,
but they have kind of raised
498
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,680
this little boy up as to be like
the next Messiah or humanity's
499
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,960
next hope, which like Darren
said, that's a lot to put on a
500
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,240
child.
But with that also being her
501
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,960
nephew.
And and this is going back to my
502
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,960
original point.
This is what I mean by her being
503
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,320
more open because when you first
meet her with Laurent, it's like
504
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,640
she's caring, but you can tell
she's holding him at a distance.
505
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,200
And then we find out that that
with her sister's child and also
506
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,680
what the implications of his
birth could mean, he kind of
507
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,360
she's looking at him like he has
a greater purpose.
508
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,080
And if I allow myself to get too
attached to him, I may not be
509
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,440
able to let him go to fulfill
that purpose is kind of similar
510
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,720
to what we see in The Last of Us
with Joel and Ellie.
511
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,560
You know, that was also another
relationship where Joel was
512
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,680
taking Ellie to the doctors.
He had planned on having no
513
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,600
attachment to her.
And then when it gets to the
514
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,720
end, she's like his child.
And he can't, he can't get rid
515
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,920
of his own feelings or he can't
tamper down his own feelings in
516
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,200
order to help the greater good.
You know what I'm saying?
517
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,120
And you kind of get there.
I, I, I kind of feel like you
518
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,360
see that a little bit more with
Isabel in this episode,
519
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,240
especially because she's talking
to Laurent so much now about his
520
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,800
mother.
And I don't think she did that
521
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,280
as much before.
So it's kind of like you're
522
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,360
giving him these little tidbits
and these little pieces.
523
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,080
But I still feel like at this
point she has not told him that
524
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,320
she is his aunt.
And I think that's kind of why
525
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,280
Daryl is so upset with her cuz
he's like, you need to stop
526
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,160
lying to this boy.
You need to just tell him the
527
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,920
truth.
You know, you can say, Oh yes, I
528
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,200
knew your mother and and give
these little tidbits, but
529
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,840
there's something more there.
And that little boy needs to
530
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,760
know.
And like Darrell say, he needs
531
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,600
to know where he comes from.
Right.
532
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,120
And it is we going to go back to
this back and forth.
533
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,640
There's really, honestly, come
on friends, there is no reason
534
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,120
why you shouldn't have been told
him who he was.
535
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,280
I mean.
I agree, I thought he knew he
536
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,840
was the aunt.
I don't think he knows that
537
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,960
she's his aunt yet because
you've never heard, you've never
538
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,760
heard either one of them refer
to each other aunt or nephew.
539
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,360
Even in So when he's talking to
the singer and she looks at
540
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,000
Isabel and Quinn, who she, you
know, bumps into during the
541
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,960
course of this this episode, she
looks at him and says, are those
542
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,640
your parents?
He says no.
543
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,920
Now, he could have easily said,
oh, no, that's my aunt.
544
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,800
That's my guardian.
That's the person who raised me
545
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,800
something.
He just says no.
546
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,960
But again, this child will run.
I feel like he actually does see
547
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,120
things and know things before
they happen.
548
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,720
I don't know if he understood at
this point that Quinn was his
549
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,320
father.
I don't think he he put those
550
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,960
two together yet.
But for the singer to look at
551
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,840
Isabel and Quinn, and I don't
know if it was just the way that
552
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,080
he was behaving, his body
language, something about the
553
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,480
way that he was with Isabel, she
was immediately suspicious.
554
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,960
All.
Of these people around in a oh
555
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,680
OK hold on.
We're gonna take a we're gonna
556
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120
take a break from that.
I'm, I'm gonna stop that train
557
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,480
of thought.
If the world comes to an end, I
558
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,000
am going to Paris.
Because over here they have a
559
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:14,040
Walker, gladiator fights, and in
Paris they have a whole fucking
560
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,400
nightclub, complete with a drag
queen, complete with
561
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,320
entertainment, complete with
dancers.
562
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,800
I'm going to Paris.
I'm going.
563
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,200
To go clearly in the wrong
place.
564
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:32,400
Clearly I am going to I am going
to struggle my way through the
565
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:38,120
catacomb entrance because that
would freak me out already.
566
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,160
If you haven't seen it, go look
at a movie.
567
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,640
It's called as above was as
above, so below.
568
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,480
It's about it's.
Yeah, it's a horror movie that
569
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,280
takes place in the catacombs.
Nope, I just the sad part is as
570
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,600
it's on the screen right now.
I thought about it too and I'm
571
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,720
like, I haven't watched it and I
don't want to.
572
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,840
But I.
I want to sleep.
573
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,920
I would brave going through the
catacombs if I could just spend
574
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,840
my zombie apocalypse in a
nightclub where they have he has
575
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,760
alcohol.
He has art.
576
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,639
He like commandeered art from
the museums.
577
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,080
He has real alcohol, not the
bootleg shit, not the I'm gonna
578
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,280
go make this in a factory in a
in a beer fact.
579
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,040
No, he has real alcohol.
He has I'm that's where I'm
580
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,400
going.
That is where I'm going.
581
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,520
But anyway, going back to my
point.
582
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,880
But yeah, I I don't know if
Laurent picked up on the vine,
583
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,159
but he obviously knew something
was there.
584
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:46,120
And like Daryl said, this boy
deserves to know where he's
585
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560
from.
When you when we find out that
586
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:58,200
Quinn is the father of Laurent.
OK, when I say my mind was
587
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,320
blown, but at the same time.
He looked sneaky and dirty and
588
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,720
nasty and he looked like he
would.
589
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,240
Be and her sister we already
established.
590
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,440
The person.
So no, I don't even think her,
591
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,200
her sister was in that.
Like her sister.
592
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,000
We had this conversation in the
first episode about the sister
593
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:24,160
seeming very, I don't want to
say immature, but she seen it
594
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,720
seemed like Isabel was taking
care of her, like she wasn't
595
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,800
fully mature.
And I don't know if that was
596
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,680
just personality.
I don't know if that was just
597
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,200
because she was sick and was,
you know, just kind of being
598
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,800
needy at the moment.
But I could easily see a
599
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,240
situation where Quinn could have
manipulated that, you know what
600
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,280
I'm saying?
And.
601
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,160
Yeah.
I thought about it the first
602
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,960
time I watched the episode
because Quinn, when he finally
603
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,280
drops that bombshell to Isabel,
when she says, oh, this is
604
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Lily's boy, Laurent.
And he was like, OK, all things
605
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,480
aside, you shouldn't have kept
that for me.
606
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,240
And she was like, what did my
sister know that I had a son out
607
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:10,560
there?
And she's like, what?
608
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,360
She's clearly like, what are you
talking about?
609
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,440
He was like it was a mistake
blah blah blah but you shouldn't
610
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,240
have kept it from me.
I was like how the fuck was she
611
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,800
supposed to know if she's just
not figuring out that you are
612
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,920
the father because.
It was a.
613
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,360
Mistake.
Why would she even think that?
614
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,840
Oh, this is your son?
But then when I watched it again
615
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,360
today, right before we started
recording, I said, oh, you know
616
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,840
what?
I'm going back to that scene
617
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,280
where they were trying to get
out the city and Lily got sick.
618
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,760
They had to pull over in the
car.
619
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,600
She threw up.
And you know, that was when Izzy
620
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,920
found out she was pregnant.
And she was like, why didn't you
621
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,560
tell me?
I'm sorry.
622
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,000
I thought you'd be mad if Quinn
overheard that.
623
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,920
And then not ten seconds after
that, Izzy stole the car.
624
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,720
He probably thought that Lily
told her at that moment and that
625
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:06,600
was why Izzy left him, because
she was like, are you trying to
626
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,720
leave my sister?
But you, the one who put her in
627
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,880
this, I was like, that make that
makes more sense.
628
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:17,200
Well, and then also, I'm sorry,
but you told me to ditch my
629
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,640
sister.
I'm going to choose my sister
630
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,720
then.
So he can't even even think that
631
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,360
either.
He could just think, oh, she
632
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,240
actually chose a sister, which
will make perfect sense.
633
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,040
I've been taking care of her, so
why would I ditch her?
634
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:33,840
Dude, come on now, you ain't
that great.
635
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,680
I mean, thank you for saving me
because I would have been dead
636
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,600
to where where I was.
However, you're not that great
637
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,120
that I'm going to ditch my
sister for you at the end of the
638
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,160
world, right?
We're not married.
639
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,640
We had no kids together.
And you tell it and you're not
640
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,440
even attempting to try to take
her.
641
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:59,200
You're saying Bitcher, however,
he got some good survival skills
642
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,880
'cause he survived and he owns a
club.
643
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,240
So.
Like he's a big man.
644
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,120
This is my question.
What?
645
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,400
Cause 'cause the singer is
apparently his girlfriend,
646
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,000
'cause she questioned him after
he comes to the bar, Wouldn't
647
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,600
you know if that was your man,
kid?
648
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,840
Like, wouldn't there be an
inkling?
649
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,840
I'm just saying to myself,
'cause you asked if those are
650
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,040
your parents, ain't that your
man?
651
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,400
And wouldn't he have mentioned,
oh, maybe I got a?
652
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,120
Kid I no, you know.
Well, he wouldn't have.
653
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,800
Maybe she would.
Maybe she was asking about Daryl
654
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,320
because Daryl was over there
too.
655
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,400
So maybe she was asking Daryl
and and.
656
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,840
OK.
OK.
657
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,280
Got you.
Got you.
658
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:37,880
OK.
Yeah, Yeah.
659
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,640
And then at this time of the
world, you have kids, they're
660
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,080
probably dead.
So why do I need to mention I
661
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,440
may have a kid out there in the
world?
662
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,400
Right, Yeah.
But I would say, OK, now that
663
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,800
you saying that it was.
Yeah, because I thought about, I
664
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,880
I just thought about that when
you asked that question.
665
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,440
I was like, oh, wait, Daryl was
there.
666
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,000
So maybe she was talking about
Daryl and not Quinn.
667
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,200
So, yeah, you know, sometimes we
we we come to realizations when
668
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,840
we have someone to talk things
out with.
669
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,640
Because I was confused about
that, too.
670
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,400
But that would make sense.
And then even even if that
671
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,920
wasn't, those weren't his
biological parents.
672
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,680
I mean, we've seen in the zombie
apocalypse, people have children
673
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,400
all the time that are not
biologically theirs because of
674
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,080
the circumstances, so that those
could very well have been his
675
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:28,640
parents.
But the the way that he dropped
676
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:34,800
that news to Izzy and was like,
you couldn't tell me I had a son
677
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,720
and she was just looking like.
He was.
678
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,560
She was really confused.
And then she was hurt because
679
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,200
not only are you telling her at
this point that you betrayed
680
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,440
her, you are also letting her
know that her sister betrayed
681
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,240
her.
Now whether it was on purpose or
682
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:54,720
not, we will never know because
Lily is dead.
683
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:59,480
We don't know the circumstances.
Again, this could have been Lily
684
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,840
could have been a willing
participant.
685
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,600
She could have been coerced.
She could have been manipulated.
686
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,560
Quinn could have just made
googly eyes at her and she
687
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,520
thought, oh, OK, you know, we
don't know how serious him and
688
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,120
Izzy were at the time.
So there could be a whole bunch
689
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,080
of things that contributed to
that.
690
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:25,600
But the fact is you have now
like completely demolished.
691
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,840
My my last memory or my last
thoughts of my sister like you
692
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,680
have put this image in my head
now that my sister however it
693
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,520
happened, betrayed me.
I would hate him so much right
694
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:46,000
now.
Because the other thing is, what
695
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,000
the fuck you gonna do with a
child in your current situation,
696
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,920
in your current circumstances?
1 You have not been around this
697
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,640
child.
So it's not like he's going to
698
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,080
be like, oh, you're my dad, I'm
going to come stay with you.
699
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,120
And she ain't having that
anyway, even if he thought that
700
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,080
he was that.
Cause Laurent has a greater
701
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,840
purpose and it ain't being in
the nightclub with his.
702
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:14,720
Daddy yet to take over.
With the spark.
703
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,560
This all be yours.
Yes, you going to inherit the
704
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,120
nightclub.
No.
705
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,120
Laurent.
Has here babies.
706
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:31,440
His great, but going back to
Laurent, so again, they're
707
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,080
really pushing this whole thing
about Laurent being the savior,
708
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:43,680
being humanity's great hope.
And I just find it like, there
709
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:49,760
are certain things that you can
kind of explain away in a way
710
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,840
that makes sense.
Like the whole thing with the
711
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,280
lady who lost her husband that,
you know, they said that she
712
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,080
lost her husband a few days ago.
She couldn't be consoled.
713
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,880
She wouldn't eat like nothing.
She wasn't allowing people to
714
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,600
comfort her.
And then Laurent just kind of
715
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,080
notices her, goes upstairs to
her, and immediately he's able
716
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,320
to comfort her.
And you can see her kind of come
717
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,600
out of that shell that can
easily be explained as empathy,
718
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,840
compassion, just him having a
way to connect to people.
719
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,960
The other thing, when Izzy and
Daryl are having that argument
720
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,000
and Lorac comes up to them and
he's like, you both, you did
721
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,360
this.
I hate you both.
722
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,400
And we're like, at first I'm
like, did he overhear this
723
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,840
conversation?
No, it was because Codron and
724
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,760
his people were coming in to
attack.
725
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,400
So I was like, did he sit?
That was, I thought.
726
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,680
I thought it was 'cause he heard
them.
727
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,200
He heard him say that old boy
was his dad.
728
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,160
I don't think that's that's what
it was.
729
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,720
I think it was because, because
literally after he said that,
730
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,520
Codron and his soldiers burst in
the door with guns blazing.
731
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,520
Wait, wait.
But if you see, that's the
732
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,440
thing.
Because like with Laurent's
733
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,440
character, it could be either
one of those things.
734
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,400
I think the perception that
they're trying to give us
735
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,560
because he's supposed to be the
savior and all this other stuff
736
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,920
is that he has a way of knowing
these types of things.
737
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,480
But then when you, like you said
the conversation, he could have
738
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,040
overheard this, that
conversation.
739
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,160
I personally don't think they
were being loud enough for him
740
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,080
to hear it.
But it's just kind of one of
741
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,880
those things where it's like,
OK, which one is it?
742
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Did he hear the conversation or
did he know that Codrama was
743
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:52,040
showing up?
Or maybe I was going to say he
744
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,880
could have seen it, but he was
in the bed.
745
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,440
And honestly, I don't think
Daryl and Isabel would have had
746
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,440
that conversation so close to
Laurent's bed, especially if
747
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,720
Daryl was trying to sneak off
before Laurent even knew he was
748
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:11,600
gone.
I just so that's what also what
749
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,320
made me think that it he did
hear the conversation because
750
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,880
it's like you trying to sneak
off while I'm not paying
751
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,880
attention, so to speak.
So because basically pitching
752
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,760
me, you know, I'm mad and I'm
gonna run out the window, right?
753
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,680
He needed a woman at that point.
But yeah, I heard.
754
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,760
I heard your voice when he, when
he, when he disappeared.
755
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,920
I said this boy is worse than
Carl.
756
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:40,600
You know what I you know I said
it.
757
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,560
I said now he need his damn ass
whooped.
758
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,080
Why did you climb out a damn
window if I care about you being
759
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,200
mad?
Maybe mad in that bed.
760
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,040
Right.
You need to stay where people
761
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,320
can protect you because
obviously you need protecting.
762
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:59,320
This is not the first time.
Because father, Father John
763
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,040
Paul, eat your ass up.
But this is the same dude who
764
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:08,200
came and shot up the Abbey, so
obviously he might.
765
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,520
Even though we know he's
following Daryl, Laurent don't
766
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,360
necessarily know that.
But no, he, he, he know that
767
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,720
when they was at the Abbey, old
boy was trying to take him talk
768
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:21,040
about are we going to make him a
soldier?
769
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,240
Right, that's what I'm saying.
He, as far as he knows, Kadron
770
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:29,640
could be coming after him.
So I'm gonna need you to stay
771
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,880
with the people who can try to
protect you.
772
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,960
I mean, granted, at this point,
after we see what happens, like
773
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:41,280
he takes off, Daryl takes off,
him and Codron have this big
774
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:47,520
fight, which, OK, Daryl, I need
you to stop leaving people alive
775
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,560
'cause you, if you were back
home, you would have killed him
776
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,640
without thinking twice.
Yeah, no.
777
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,680
Hesitation, Yeah.
This man literally came across
778
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,560
the country to find you, and you
know he was looking for you
779
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,360
because when they burst through
the door, what did they say?
780
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:09,320
Where is the American?
You know he's looking for you.
781
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,600
So why would you sit there and
just choke this man out?
782
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,280
I know you got a little more
strength than that, Daryl.
783
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,840
You.
Need to get this motherfucker.
784
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,640
No, he had on the bulky coat and
old Boy had that coat on with
785
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,880
the collar, with with the little
fur collar.
786
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,400
And so trying to strangle him,
he was like, and then the people
787
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,040
started shooting at him.
So he was like, I don't want to
788
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,120
get shot, right.
If he had killed him, First off,
789
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,560
they wouldn't have even gotten
that far.
790
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Or if you can't kill him by
strangling him.
791
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,560
OK.
You got on thick, bulky clothes.
792
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,200
He got on thick, bulky clothes.
OK, I got it.
793
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,120
Where's your fucking knife?
Daryl?
794
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:49,520
Stab this dude in the head.
You've done it plenty of times.
795
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,800
I've seen it.
Why are you?
796
00:46:52,800 --> 00:47:03,680
Continuing to leave this to just
out of reach, it was like, do
797
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,240
you?
See the look on my face?
798
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:10,320
We've been talking about Daryl
and his non lethal decision
799
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,040
since this show started.
Hell, he said baby in the head
800
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:21,000
with two lines like and then and
then look, how do you this, this
801
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,720
is this is a real question.
How do you drop the knife to
802
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:25,640
have the nunchuck holder thing
in it?
803
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,720
How did you hold the knife?
You cause in order for somebody
804
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:31,680
knocked that out your hand, your
hand gotta be like this.
805
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,400
And we know Daryl Hannah ain't
never splayed out like that.
806
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,800
Daryl is.
Always.
807
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,440
Like this he always fisting.
Wait, that's not nasty.
808
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,480
She always has this fist ball.
Yeah, OK, alright.
809
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,680
He always has his fist balled
up, so if you have a knife with
810
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,040
the fist, the thingies the
finger holes.
811
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,680
Right.
Brass knuckles How?
812
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,000
How?
But how is that on your hands?
813
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,600
In that case you need your ass
whooped because who taught you
814
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,600
how to fight?
I told you since he came to
815
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,800
France he act like he forgot
killing walkers one on.
816
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,840
Again, and I'll tell you, when
you're on vacation, common sense
817
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,960
goes out the window.
Vacation conversation, it's like
818
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,880
when you are out of your
element, common sense goes out
819
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,120
the window.
I was.
820
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,320
Going to say, 'cause this ain't
no.
821
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,800
Vacation 'cause we said that at
the very first show when you
822
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,120
walked into an empty ass room
without tapping on the door to
823
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,640
see if fucking walkers was in
there.
824
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,080
So now you got to ask Burnt like
you've been in this apocalypse
825
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,520
for 20 years.
At this, yes, but you also have
826
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,640
to realize that who has really
dare fought in a while?
827
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,760
It's not the point of fighting.
It is though.
828
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,400
How?
Wait, yes it is.
829
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,400
You lose that edge.
What was the last person he
830
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,040
really truly fight fought that
was strong and had combat
831
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:05,680
training?
I don't know yet.
832
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,440
Oh, I really got to think about
it, 'cause I'm trying to think
833
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,920
like in the Commonwealth, like,
yeah, he fought Lance and he
834
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,840
fought a couple of people, but
he fought people.
835
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,680
On the boat.
Oh, did we get there yet?
836
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Yeah, we talked about how you
got to print.
837
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:22,360
Yeah.
So the people on the boat.
838
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,600
He had to because Madam Janae
said in that last episode, she
839
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,280
what did she say?
It took us 3, three years to get
840
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:37,200
this ship, you know, in tip top
shape, seaworthy and it's all
841
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,440
like done because of one
American.
842
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,200
So you know, he had to fight to
get off.
843
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,040
He did, but again I said combat
ready.
844
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,400
I didn't say all those soldiers
was combat ready.
845
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,480
Well, we don't.
OK, we, well, we, we haven't
846
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,360
got.
Like a tough fight, Like a
847
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,200
tough, like the governor, Like a
tough fight.
848
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,040
Beta, Right.
That's what I'm talking about
849
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,560
that right there where he could
have picked him up and threw him
850
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,840
over a bridge, but he fought
him.
851
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,240
So he, so he's a little, he's a
little, he's a little, you know,
852
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,520
that's OK 'cause normally he's
an arrowing.
853
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,840
It's only that's not a word, but
you know what I'm saying.
854
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,840
We got to say it's been.
OK, he need to find a damn bow
855
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,520
and arrow, See.
That's that's his over.
856
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,040
The stick.
That's that's his.
857
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,720
That that's his thing.
But I'm saying so.
858
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:34,040
But I'm sorry, you can like, OK,
we don't know the timeline from
859
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,760
the Commonwealth, the end of the
main show to this show,
860
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,160
obviously, probably a couple of
years maybe.
861
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,440
Maybe you are not going to tell
me that those couple of years
862
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,040
when he's been out on the road,
when he's been trying to find
863
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,680
Rick and Michelle, that he
hasn't come across other people
864
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,640
that he hasn't had to fight.
But also, you can't tell me that
865
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,280
those couple of years, even if
he is a little rusty, is going
866
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,840
to erase the 1015 years of
fighting and fighting and knock
867
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,640
down drag down fighting that he
had to do.
868
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:11,040
OK, so I'm gonna help you with
that.
869
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:16,320
I'm gonna help you with that.
Even even I will bring that
870
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,360
point up.
Even over the years, you will
871
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,200
get rusty.
And even though he fought
872
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,680
people, there wasn't of quality.
They were CD level.
873
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,040
OK.
My video game people, you
874
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,280
understand, they just they they
not even close to the boss.
875
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,880
OK, Darrell has had to fight
bosses.
876
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,760
And when he.
Fought bosses.
877
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,960
There was a threat to his lives,
his friends lives.
878
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,480
So it was an extra adrenaline
rush to that fighting the boss.
879
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,680
OK, so now it's been some time.
He find people who who eaten
880
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000
rats and turtles and pigeon
birds.
881
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,560
I mean, they, they not work.
They, they, they can't.
882
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:01,480
I mean, he got them and he had
his bow and arrow, you know what
883
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,600
I'm saying?
And he has had assistance.
884
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,840
OK, So now he come into another
country, he's a little thrown
885
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,200
off.
I won't say vacation.
886
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,160
You know, common sense, some of
the skills that you have
887
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,840
learned.
He's not a Navy SEAL, friends,
888
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,400
He's not a Navy SEAL.
He's he hasn't learned to do
889
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,160
this in all atmospheres and
environments.
890
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,040
So he gets over here, he's
fighting someone who is the
891
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:31,160
leader, who has fought others to
show that he is the boss.
892
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,200
They'll been on vacation.
Too many margaritas.
893
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,320
You look sluggish.
You.
894
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Know what?
OK, so you're not fighting the
895
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,080
same way you would have fought
beta, because beta that was that
896
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,480
really was like life or death.
He like, oh, I can take him.
897
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,960
We just was like rolling on the
rules.
898
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,680
I mean this you don't.
Think this fight with this
899
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,480
officer is life or death?
For him, I don't think he feels
900
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,240
the threat like he felt the
threat with like maybe if I'm
901
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:01,920
thinking.
This.
902
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,840
Man probably could kill.
Me.
903
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:09,680
No, when he was fighting Beta,
he could actually kill me.
904
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:12,440
This dude right here, he's like,
I probably got him.
905
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,080
I got him.
He's not really that much of A
906
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,840
threat.
But guess what?
907
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:21,840
You are a little sluggish.
Here's the thing when that.
908
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:27,600
You'll be ready next time.
Dude, when that same dude was
909
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:33,920
shooting up nuns in the Abbey
and you had access to a gun, you
910
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,720
should have killed his ass then.
Correct, but common sense.
911
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,480
But I keep.
But you helping my, you are
912
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,840
helping my reasons, you are
helping my 'cause that he is off
913
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,480
his game because of the travel.
I need him, OK?
914
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,840
He was going to shoot.
Him.
915
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,000
But remember the little old lady
nun came and knocked the gun
916
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,480
away.
He was about to shoot him.
917
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,120
OK, but after the well, I was
going to say after the little
918
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,640
old lady nun died.
You should have.
919
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:09,280
Killed him.
At that point he had him in his
920
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,080
side.
He was like and then the little
921
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,800
lady was like.
OK, all this to say, Darrell
922
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,640
Dixon, I need you to get back on
your shit.
923
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,760
Right, that's basically it.
He has to.
924
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,640
But now he is prepared for the
next fight like I.
925
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:25,480
Don't know, 'cause he just fell
through that roof.
926
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,160
I don't know what he prepared.
For, I said he'll be prepared.
927
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,120
For the next fight, like oh this
is a person who is equal.
928
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,600
Of skills or higher, he punched
the boy in the little club for
929
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,480
trying to Juke him.
Remember he?
930
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:46,880
Yeah, but that ain't no.
That's not no, that's not
931
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,280
comparable.
That would not fighting the boss
932
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:57,960
boss level fights.
No, no, cause ultimately this is
933
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:05,360
that would be his, his boss
level because the, the head
934
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,480
lady, I mean, she's gonna fight
like Madam Janay.
935
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:10,520
No, she's not gonna fight like
that.
936
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,720
So that's that.
That's the, that's the boss
937
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,560
right there.
But I would say this.
938
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:18,880
It like AA wasn't, I mean Alpha
would kill you, you know you you
939
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,560
may want to be scared of her
even.
940
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,080
Though she looked like Madam
Janay looked like she would
941
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,680
Whoops, Mass She.
Was.
942
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,560
But Darrell can clearly take
her.
943
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,040
He would be able to take her
'cause she hadn't.
944
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,640
Thought.
She hadn't fought in.
945
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:36,680
Years but we we don't know this
but she's we don't she's we but
946
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,960
we don't know because we haven't
we don't know that much about
947
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,760
her, but we.
Don't, but I'm saying she has it
948
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,440
currently when you are the
president leader, whatever she
949
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,360
is going to.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
950
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,080
She has her.
Men to Do you think she been
951
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,240
fighting?
Who's she been fighting?
952
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,000
She she had to fight.
This is a female who is in
953
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:02,600
charge of a very male dominated.
I got you on that.
954
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,200
But she already proved her
point, and she got her.
955
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,640
Loyal men, she proved her.
Point I said, but it's been some
956
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,000
years, but it's been some years.
I'm going to tell you because
957
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:17,200
once you no, but once you do it,
if you do it correctly, you
958
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,640
don't have to keep doing it.
If you point it, that means you
959
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,440
did not set yourself up to
success.
960
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,960
So now you're saying that she
has not set herself up to
961
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,040
success.
No, no, no.
962
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,040
I believe that she had 'cause I
think they scared of her.
963
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,760
See, all they have to do is if
she could just get them to be
964
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,120
scared of her and she did the
stuff she needed to do.
965
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:38,680
She don't have to.
Fight, OK, but on that same
966
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,600
token, 'cause I don't want to
mess with her, 'cause she don't
967
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,440
turn me into an experiment.
Well, that too.
968
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,120
But here's the thing, you get
people to follow you.
969
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,320
You get people to be loyal.
But after a few years, that
970
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,960
starts dying down.
Think about.
971
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,320
Not if you do not listen.
Let me finish my thoughts.
972
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,240
You don't have to fight.
Think about the way Negan was
973
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:02,520
with the Saviors, because he was
right there, top of the chain.
974
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,640
And then you start getting some
dissenters.
975
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,560
You got to every once in awhile
go back in and prove that you
976
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,840
haven't lost your edge.
So I.
977
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,800
Agree with that.
I'm not going to sit here and be
978
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,920
like, Oh no, she hasn't fought
in a few years.
979
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,520
I I totally I totally agree with
you, but her intelligence and
980
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,880
how she running things she don't
need to fight.
981
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,800
That's why I want you to get the
shit she's doing is way worse
982
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,320
than fighting you be like I
don't I'd rather fight her than
983
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,960
to deal with the stuff that
she's going to put upon me.
984
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,480
That girl is peeling toenails
off of people while they still
985
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,840
live, living with a Walker,
eating their brains and pouring
986
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,560
acid on them all at the same
time.
987
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,120
That's what she do with and you
see that?
988
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,520
You'd be like.
When did she do?
989
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,000
That.
Might not want.
990
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:53,760
To wrestle her.
Yeah.
991
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,680
You see what I'm saying?
You get, you get scared, then
992
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,040
that the then the men tell these
stories.
993
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,800
Those stories become worse than
they really were.
994
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,280
And then you'll be like, I'm
going to follow her.
995
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,720
And then all she got to do is to
come out there with a gun and
996
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,560
shoot somebody in the head.
That bastard was late to work.
997
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:15,840
And you'd be like, oh shit.
You're not loyal because you
998
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,960
didn't show up to work on time.
Right, you eat the chocolate
999
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,600
cupcake.
I told you, don't eat those
1000
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:26,520
cupcakes.
She cut my tongue out and fed it
1001
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,680
to a Walker in front of me and
fed it to a Walker in front of
1002
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,800
me.
I don't know, but I will say
1003
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:39,800
this if if Daryl ends up coming
face to face with that woman,
1004
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,320
because obviously, you know,
this one lone American is he's
1005
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,480
he's like really fucking some
shit up over there.
1006
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,240
He needs to be scared because
she going to be the one to tie
1007
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:56,760
him up and get Laurent.
Get she she will find the the
1008
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,840
rabbit that was his friend when
he was in fifth grade.
1009
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,760
This is why this is again, This
is why he needs to go ahead and
1010
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,480
kill Kadron, because that's the
person going back to report to
1011
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,200
her.
You tell her I'm going to find
1012
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,800
him, I'm going to bring him to
you and I won't stop.
1013
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,560
I won't.
Quit and she literally she would
1014
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,520
be the type to have him tied up
and watch the people that he has
1015
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:25,200
currently met, everyone he has
encountered tortured,
1016
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,280
experimenting on why they still
alive.
1017
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,280
I don't.
I rather you just kill me.
1018
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,480
But no, that's not how she
moves.
1019
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,400
You can tell.
But you know my real quick this
1020
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:41,080
the real question how they find
him so quickly.
1021
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:46,080
Like not even.
Because of the map.
1022
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,080
Cell phones, Yeah.
No, no, no, no, 'cause he goes
1023
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,600
to the nightclub and he was
like, we know he was just here,
1024
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,320
but you just here.
Oh.
1025
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,600
People, people are talking just
what, what, what was it that
1026
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,200
Falou said?
Information is a commodity.
1027
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,240
They probably pay some people.
They, the people that sitting
1028
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,720
out their garden, he was
probably like, oh, OK, so I need
1029
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:15,360
to know if there's an American
here somebody, He says so.
1030
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,920
Just showing up that that's
yeah, if it take a pigeon two
1031
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,680
months to get a message.
How?
1032
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,440
Well, one, Cordrone has
vehicles, he has cars and jeeps.
1033
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,480
So he's not flying, he's not
travelling by horse drawn cart.
1034
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,880
But two, we also have to
remember that before they
1035
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,560
stopped at Algier, they stopped
at that orphanage.
1036
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:51,080
So it's possible that Cordrone,
especially if he was looking at
1037
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,320
the map and the map literally
had the red flag pinpointed at
1038
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,880
Paris.
If you're familiar with Paris at
1039
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,720
all and you've heard these
rumors about this organization,
1040
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,520
you know, this rebel
organization or whatever, you're
1041
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:12,160
kind of going to know where to
look for certain things.
1042
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,760
If he's like, oh, they're in
Paris.
1043
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:18,880
Oh, they probably are here.
And again, and him being at the
1044
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,360
Abbey, they left all kinds of
information behind.
1045
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,000
So it's possible he knew exactly
where they were going.
1046
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,800
And if you again, if you are
familiar with the way things
1047
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,200
work, if you know this is an
American, he's trying to get
1048
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,920
home, there's only one place
only American.
1049
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,440
Well, I mean, we, we only met
one other American and he was
1050
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,080
the one that was in the city
keeping so.
1051
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,880
And and I'm having, I do have a
little problems with that, but
1052
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,800
that side note, there got to be
a few of us 'cause we are.
1053
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,720
But I'm thinking.
But you know what, probably not.
1054
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,680
Cause think about the fact that
there's hardly any people
1055
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:05,720
walking around like we see so.
You know, I get it because we
1056
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,880
will be, you know, touring and,
you know, on vacation.
1057
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,360
And 20 years from now, I mean 20
years from the start, them
1058
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,760
Americans probably found a way
to go home or they're like, you
1059
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,480
know what I'm.
Home, home.
1060
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:23,080
They're dead, huh?
Where we they're dead If I am
1061
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,000
over there on vacation living in
the hotel like I don't know, a a
1062
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,080
friend's a farm to go to you.
Know, I mean, think about, think
1063
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:37,160
about, think about Victor's
husband and and his folks in
1064
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:38,480
fear of The Walking Dead, they
would.
1065
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,400
My hotel, because they would.
Yeah, they did good and they
1066
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,960
couldn't get back home.
Maybe the amount of living their
1067
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,560
good life in a hotel near the
beach because the walkers can't
1068
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,720
swim.
Well, you know what this is in
1069
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,480
France.
These these French walkers are
1070
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,160
are.
Are way different.
1071
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,920
We may not have survived.
They might have some breast
1072
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,640
stroking walking over there so
we don't.
1073
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,400
Right.
And if you needed a hairpiece,
1074
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:04,920
you wouldn't be able to find you
know what?
1075
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,040
I thought we were going to get
through a whole episode and not
1076
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:16,440
talk about a hairpiece, but so.
Everybody here should be looking
1077
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,360
rough right now.
I'm.
1078
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:22,360
Just it's possible that he was
able to get there that quickly.
1079
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:27,760
And again, if you are, even
before he started working for
1080
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:34,480
Madam Janay, this was a man
whose job it was to not
1081
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,520
necessarily keep the piece, but
he was the one that was going
1082
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,560
finding these kids to recruit
for soldiers.
1083
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,120
He was the one training these
people.
1084
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,400
So he a person in his type of
position, they have to have
1085
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,600
their ear on the ground.
They have to know where people
1086
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,760
would go for certain things.
And even when he walks into the
1087
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,800
club, Quinn is like Madam Janae
and I have an agreement.
1088
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,360
My club is off limits.
So obviously Madam Janae knows
1089
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,680
about the club.
Why wouldn't control, but maybe
1090
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,640
she was the one who told him.
OK, hey, why don't you go check
1091
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,400
this place out?
Because they do shady stuff
1092
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,600
there.
And if you're looking for a way
1093
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,480
to get around that's kind of off
the books or out of the way,
1094
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,520
that might be the first place
you go.
1095
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:27,120
I don't think they know that he
looking to get off the island.
1096
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,480
The island get out of France,
they.
1097
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,080
Stole him to bring him the
France, so obviously he don't
1098
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:38,120
want to go back home, no.
No, no, I'm saying I don't think
1099
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:44,120
that they, my thought is they're
not thinking that he's, you
1100
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,400
know, doing a list and search
for a radio so he can leave.
1101
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,200
Because to me, my thought would
be #1 you know, you in, in in
1102
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:56,360
some seat somewhere, you know,
you came off this boat.
1103
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:02,320
My thought would be, I want to
get him back because he escaped
1104
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:08,800
more than anything, not knowing
that he's trying to get back
1105
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,880
home, so to speak.
My thought would be I lost my
1106
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,680
prisoner, let me get him back.
Well, it might not even be that
1107
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,040
they're thinking that he's
trying to get home, that he
1108
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,360
knows that they're looking for
him.
1109
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,200
He knows somebody is looking for
him.
1110
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,840
Why would I want to stay?
I'm going to try to find the
1111
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:29,200
first thing, smoking, flying,
Slytherin, whatever out of the
1112
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,960
city.
I'm trying to get the fuck away.
1113
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,520
True.
So, so yeah, I mean, but either
1114
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:41,160
way it goes, even if he's trying
to search for information like,
1115
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,400
oh, these people kidnapped me, I
need to know who these people
1116
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,080
are and what they're doing.
Even if he's looking for that
1117
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:51,640
kind of information, Quinn's
place might be the, it might be
1118
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:55,640
the place to go get it.
So, you know, I can't imagine
1119
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,920
that there's a lot of those
types of establishments, you
1120
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:03,960
know, around.
So it's not like he has a whole
1121
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,120
bunch of places to choose from.
You might literally hit it in
1122
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,120
Paris.
You might literally have that
1123
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,400
one place.
And I, I have the feeling if
1124
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,880
there was something similar in
Paris, Quinn seems the type of
1125
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:22,840
person who would knock out that
competition real quick because
1126
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,120
he wants to make sure that he's
the only source of information,
1127
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,960
that he's the only source for
goods, commodities, whatever
1128
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,920
might need to be traded.
He wants to make sure that he is
1129
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,960
the person in charge, the person
in demand, the person that
1130
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,840
you're going to go to, so that
he can kind of make those kinds
1131
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,280
of relationships like the one he
has with Madam Janae, where he's
1132
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:50,120
like, OK, my club is off limits.
What does he have to do in order
1133
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,080
for his club to be off limits?
Is is he giving her a share of
1134
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,400
the cut?
I mean, because again, it's not
1135
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,480
like money is a currency that we
we really need.
1136
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,280
But this man has drugs.
This man has alcohol.
1137
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,960
I'll.
Tell him what else he has that
1138
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,040
she might need.
He might have an he might have
1139
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,680
his ear to the ground and knows
where to get weapons.
1140
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,960
And she's like, oh, OK, I need
some guns.
1141
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,960
OK, I'll give you the guns.
But you turn your you turn your
1142
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,960
back on everything else we do in
this club.
1143
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,080
You can't really build that kind
of relationship with someone as
1144
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:31,440
important as Madam Janae.
If there are competitors around,
1145
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,840
like, oh, OK, I know Quinn told
you he can get you this, but I
1146
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,360
can get you this and this.
Now Quinn is going to cut that
1147
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,360
out.
So it it's very possible he is
1148
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,240
the only place they can go to.
And that's probably why they
1149
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,400
found him so quick.
She was like, yeah, go check
1150
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,320
here.
Because even if he hasn't seen
1151
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:57,080
the American, Quinn probably has
enough eyes around the city to
1152
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,840
tell him that something is up.
Oh, we got people in the city
1153
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,400
that we've never seen before
that aren't that aren't
1154
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,200
regulars.
Again, they don't have a lot of
1155
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,440
people walking around Friends.
I've, we've said this since
1156
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,240
episode 1.
So if someone different comes
1157
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,520
into your periphery, you're
going to be looking at them like
1158
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:16,680
who the fuck are you and why the
fuck?
1159
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,880
Are you that's?
True, and Quinn would definitely
1160
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:25,520
be a prize on all of that stuff.
OK, pause one second.
1161
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,800
I see.
Because it just got to the part
1162
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,000
where they was on the little
bridge talking and Laurent
1163
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,120
can't.
He heard them.
1164
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,240
He came up behind them and then
that's when he was like, I hate
1165
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,200
you both.
So yeah, he did OK.
1166
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,000
He heard them and then he said I
hate you both and ran out the
1167
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,840
window.
They were standing like right
1168
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:49,160
open, right in the open.
OK, so so again heard.
1169
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:52,560
Their conversation.
Let's go back to Daryl Dixon and
1170
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,840
common sense.
Since when are you having these
1171
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,520
kinds of open conversation where
everybody and their Mama can
1172
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,160
hear you?
It's not like y'all have rooms
1173
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,120
with doors in this.
Place you just talking to your
1174
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,600
regular normal speaking voice
right this spring.
1175
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,560
You ain't nothing you like.
Hey, this little boy and your
1176
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:18,359
ass, now he even heard you and
he's like I hate you both.
1177
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,920
So now he knows.
So if that's the case, now he
1178
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,160
knows the truth.
He knows you're his auntie.
1179
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:29,720
He knows the Quintus is dead.
And if that's the case, he knows
1180
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,800
that you are his auntie that has
lived with him all of these
1181
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,840
years, never said anything.
Not a word.
1182
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:44,680
Never treated him as family like
you treated him as, as the nun
1183
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:51,279
of the Abbey, as you know, a a
caregiver, a protector, not not
1184
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:55,200
like family.
So he has even more reason now
1185
01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:01,520
to be like, I can't stand you
because I've been wondering who
1186
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,640
I am all of this time.
And you could have told me all
1187
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:15,080
of this time, but instead you've
been feeding into this or you've
1188
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:20,560
been believing this whole thing
about me being the savior, me
1189
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,680
saving humanity, whatever this
it is.
1190
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,320
It's kind of like a it's like
the Dumbledore effect from Harry
1191
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,800
Potter.
It's you're raising, it's like
1192
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,320
you're raising the pig to
slaughter.
1193
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,560
I'm not saying that's going to
happen, but when you have
1194
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:41,960
someone like Laurent, let's just
put it out there, the the
1195
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:47,160
thoughts or the assumption that
he could be immune to this,
1196
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,720
whatever it is that makes them
change because of the fact that
1197
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:55,280
his mom was already turned when
she gave birth to him and it
1198
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,240
didn't affect him in a negative
way.
1199
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:07,160
In order for that to be used to
help humanity, chances are
1200
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,480
there's going to be a medical
procedure involved.
1201
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,280
Chances are it's going to be a
medical procedure that he may
1202
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:18,520
not be able to survive.
You know what I'm saying?
1203
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:26,320
So it's like, Yep, that adds
different layers to that whole
1204
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:31,200
situation.
And just again, how is the
1205
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,880
should have handled it from from
the get go.
1206
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,000
And again, I really kind of feel
like.
1207
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,200
She.
Kept her distance because at
1208
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,400
some point she realizes she's
going to have to let go of him
1209
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,280
and if she is emotionally
attached to him she may not have
1210
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,520
the strength to do that.
I and I I really think that's
1211
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,840
the only reason why she has not
told him the truth before now.
1212
01:11:57,480 --> 01:12:00,600
And if if that's the case,
that's very selfish of her.
1213
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:06,800
Absolutely, and is also at the
same time, it's very unselfish
1214
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:11,160
of her because she's putting
humanity's needs first.
1215
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:17,200
But I'm, I, I don't know, I, I
guess I'm, I'm the type if it's
1216
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,560
a choice between my child and
the I'm sorry, humanity.
1217
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,280
Look at it as her putting
humanity first.
1218
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,160
Looks like Carol said.
If, if that's truly what it is,
1219
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,080
let this little boy know what he
he's not like.
1220
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:33,360
He ain't no little baby kid.
He's old enough to comprehend
1221
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,320
and understand.
So if you feel like this is what
1222
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,320
this child is, tell him that.
I agree with Darrell on that.
1223
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,240
Aspect.
Yeah, let him make a decision.
1224
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,440
Because at the rate y'all going
trying to be all hush hush and
1225
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:51,360
secret about everything that's
going on, you could tell with
1226
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,720
this child once he find out
something, oh Lord, the world is
1227
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,800
over and he got to run away.
But if you go ahead and just
1228
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,720
tell him what is going on,
because like he said, that's a
1229
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,920
lot of pressure to put on one
person, you know?
1230
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,040
Like they're literally treating
him like a Messiah when he walks
1231
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,400
into the nest.
Yeah, and then he's a little ass
1232
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,400
kid.
So it's like I'm living up to an
1233
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,600
expectation that all these
people have of me.
1234
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,800
And I'm not even sure what that
level of expectation that they
1235
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,720
have is.
I just know that some kind of
1236
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,600
way they think I'm very, very
special.
1237
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,320
I'm a very special kid.
What else?
1238
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:32,880
I'm special to what?
Because even when they was
1239
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,600
walking and.
Like in the.
1240
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,640
Beginning and La, Ron told said
said to Darryl.
1241
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,000
You won't die in Paris.
What?
1242
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:46,000
Like, right, that's the, that's
the other thing I was like, so
1243
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,680
is this something he's just
saying or is this something that
1244
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,760
he feels?
Or is this because again, I, I
1245
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:56,520
feel like they're kind of sort
of trying to introduce like a
1246
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,760
supernatural element with
Laurent.
1247
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:03,040
But of course there are also
things that are happening
1248
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,360
simultaneously that you can use
to explain that.
1249
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,520
But if if this is a child that
is seeing things or has
1250
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,200
premonitions, I mean, again, if
you think back to the early,
1251
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:21,360
early days of The Walking Dead,
when we would see the dead
1252
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:26,040
people start to transition into
the walkers.
1253
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,280
Remember, they would show us
like flashes of what was
1254
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,680
happening in their brain and
they would have like these
1255
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:36,840
different little flashes of
zombies or people and just
1256
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,240
different little things.
I'm wondering if the what kind
1257
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,160
of gets the same kind of flashes
because of the fact that his
1258
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:47,400
mother was already turned?
Like does he have any of those
1259
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,400
special, I was going to say
special effects.
1260
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,680
But just the some parts of his
brain that is.
1261
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,320
Yeah, yeah.
Because of all the stuff that's
1262
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,160
happening to your brain when you
be while you're transitioning,
1263
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,560
it could have, you know, it
really could have like so.
1264
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,000
Yeah, that's that's the kind of
thing I'm, I'm kind of wondering
1265
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,800
if they're trying to show us
with this, like with this
1266
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,960
character, like we don't see a
lot of I mean, we almost see
1267
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,840
none of the supernatural
elements and this show, aside
1268
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,120
from people getting up from, you
know, waking up from the dead
1269
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:29,280
and and walking again.
But that last little episode of
1270
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,800
Tales that we still haven't
talked about where there was
1271
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:37,760
like a ghost, a ghostly figure
that Michelle refuses to discuss
1272
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,520
with us, like what she don't
want to talk about.
1273
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:44,160
But aside from that, we really
haven't seen anything of the
1274
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:48,000
supernatural.
So it's kind of like we're only
1275
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,880
three episodes into this show.
We have three more episodes to
1276
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:53,160
go.
So I don't know what else
1277
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,320
they'll show us about Laurent or
what else they'll tell us about
1278
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,720
his background.
But it's kind of like, I wonder,
1279
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:04,720
is he seeing things?
Maybe not like, oh, I can
1280
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,480
predict the future or whatever,
but there might be certain
1281
01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:10,640
things that he knows or that he
feels or has a sixth sense
1282
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,480
about.
I don't think that that's
1283
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:17,640
anything, you know, out of the,
I don't think that's anything
1284
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:23,160
extreme because even in everyday
life, you have people who are so
1285
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:28,840
empathetic and and so sensitive
that they can sense those type
1286
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,160
of things or they can kind of
see those type of things.
1287
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,160
So I'm not saying it, it's
something that can't be.
1288
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,960
It would just be interesting if
that's where they're going with
1289
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,240
this character.
But again, I feel like
1290
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,440
everything that they're showing
us where it could have an
1291
01:16:44,440 --> 01:16:47,360
unearthly explanation, they're
also backing it up with an
1292
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,400
actual explanation.
Like, oh, yeah, I know it seems
1293
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:54,960
like this, but it's really this.
So I I don't know, it'll be
1294
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,280
interesting.
But the way that he said that
1295
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:02,320
was kind of it was eerie.
Don't worry, miss, don't worry,
1296
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,760
Daryl, You are not going to die
in front France.
1297
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,880
You, you got a main line to
someone that that told you.
1298
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:17,600
So he, he seemed, he seemed very
sure about that.
1299
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:21,400
So I don't know, that was kind
of, that was kind of
1300
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:26,080
interesting.
But I guess as we get into the
1301
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,720
other episodes, we'll see more
about his character.
1302
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:37,120
And I don't know what the deal
really is with him, 'cause I,
1303
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,920
I'm, I'm not saying he's special
in that sense, but something is
1304
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:49,320
definitely off about that child.
I know one could fix it a.
1305
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:55,120
Whooping.
I don't know.
1306
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,640
I don't know.
I don't know if that would help
1307
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:05,680
at this point.
Just sorry, like just to go back
1308
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,440
like it would solve so many of
your problems if you just tell
1309
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:13,840
this boy what's going on.
I think we talked about this on
1310
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,000
a previous panel about it.
It's not that he needs a
1311
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,360
whooping, it's just that he's
been sheltered and not aware.
1312
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,800
And the things that she's doing,
you're not helping the situation
1313
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,800
because, yeah, he doesn't know
how to really express his
1314
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,760
emotions.
So he's finding out a lot of
1315
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,560
information and he's acting like
a kid, but you can't act like a
1316
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:39,120
kid during this time.
But he has to be trained not to
1317
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,240
act like a kid during this time,
so it's hard.
1318
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,520
'Cause he's been the only kid
for so long.
1319
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:50,920
Yeah, but now they don't even it
because I feel like if Judith
1320
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,320
was the only kid, OK, let's go
back.
1321
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,120
Carl was the only kid, but they
taught him how to survive.
1322
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,440
He made mistakes.
He made.
1323
01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:02,560
He did with Carl because he
made.
1324
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,960
Mistakes.
Carl had 10 years, 12 years even
1325
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,960
in the.
Beginning even in the beginning
1326
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,200
he he was making some errors,
but they were teaching him as
1327
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,520
they went.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1328
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:17,800
And that's what I'm saying
before.
1329
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:22,640
The within the year, within the
year of everything happening, he
1330
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,600
was learning that his.
Little.
1331
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,720
Boy, but he was still he was
still doing some dumb.
1332
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,360
And that's fine, but he was
learning this friend.
1333
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:31,400
It's been how many years?
How many?
1334
01:19:31,480 --> 01:19:36,120
How old are we saying he is now?
I think he's like 12/13, 12:13
1335
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,440
nothing.
But he had.
1336
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:44,080
You can't compare the two.
Laurent was born literally at
1337
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,680
the start of this no?
No, no, I understand that you
1338
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,080
could not take him outside the
gates and teach him.
1339
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,640
That's what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about you still
1340
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,280
haven't been trained him.
You didn't.
1341
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,840
You didn't train them then you
all the nuns are trained killing
1342
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,680
nuns.
Yeah, but no, I would want one.
1343
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,280
Why would they?
Got him reading to a dead
1344
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,000
person.
You see what I'm saying?
1345
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,520
Like, And then you don't tell
him.
1346
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,800
You don't even tell him truths.
And I and, and, but you know
1347
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:19,160
what, if you think about it,
Izzy, given the lifestyle she
1348
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:24,080
was leading before she came to
the nunnery and then her having
1349
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:29,000
to lead a different type, but
almost similar lifestyle, like
1350
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,720
her lifestyle before the nunnery
was probably was full of lies
1351
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,640
and secrets.
So that's something that she
1352
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,240
understands.
That's something she knows.
1353
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,800
How did I get that?
And you can still lie to him in
1354
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,560
a different way to make him feel
like he knows something.
1355
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,120
But you still can train him like
if something happens to you guys
1356
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,960
because because here's the
thing.
1357
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:54,600
If you are thinking that this is
a miracle child like he's.
1358
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,520
Protecting himself.
Their their whole thing is we're
1359
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,880
keeping him in the gates.
We are going to be the ones to
1360
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,960
protect him.
I mean, like you said, all the
1361
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,440
knives and everything.
They knew how to fight.
1362
01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:09,760
They knew how to shoot.
So he couldn't practice with
1363
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,160
them.
They they probably.
1364
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,600
You, you, you can see where I'm
going with this.
1365
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,360
You because.
They're living in a country that
1366
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,760
is already creating child
soldiers.
1367
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,720
Their mindset is going to be
we're going to keep him as far.
1368
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,000
So.
So your opposite thing is if
1369
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:30,120
something happens to us, let's
just say the common cold takes
1370
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,400
all these adults out in this
building, you have now left a
1371
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,400
child who can't defend himself.
And I get what you're saying,
1372
01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:39,040
but.
I'm I'm not asking.
1373
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:42,960
You to make him super soldier.
I understand that I'm not asking
1374
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,120
you to make him super soldier,
but he has to be enough to
1375
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:51,520
protect himself and I just a
little bit and I agree with you,
1376
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:57,160
but I'm thinking I'm trying to
get into Isabel's mindset and
1377
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,320
well.
First of all, Isabel makes dumb
1378
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,480
choices so we know what her
mindset is.
1379
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,280
But she thinks that she's
protecting.
1380
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:10,880
The most?
Important thing in the world.
1381
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:15,360
Yeah, 'cause I mean, she has,
she has made dumb choice, yeah.
1382
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,320
Yeah.
So she she's just living in the
1383
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,200
she's still living in the denial
stage of all this, to be honest
1384
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,440
with you, she really is.
Because if he is going to be
1385
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:32,200
something special, we going to
make sure, OK, I'm going back to
1386
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:37,800
the Terminator may not be right,
but she knew her son was
1387
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:41,440
supposed to lead them.
So she trained herself fiercely,
1388
01:22:41,480 --> 01:22:45,520
but trained him to not
necessarily be like her, but to
1389
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:50,680
give away, steal cars, get
money, like be able to survive
1390
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,200
if something happened to her,
and to know the clues of the
1391
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,920
what to stay away from and who
to go to.
1392
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,040
Yeah, they could have just
simple things, simple things
1393
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,880
like we're playing baseball.
But really, you're kind of
1394
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,280
showing him how to do some
karate.
1395
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,800
I mean, you could have dressed
it up in a different.
1396
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,480
Way I mean, I agree I I
definitely agree, but I just.
1397
01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:15,160
Cause the nuns went out in one
day.
1398
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,040
The nuns went out in one day.
All.
1399
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,880
Of them.
Yeah, I just don't think that's
1400
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:27,520
where her mindset was.
I I think I think she probably
1401
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:31,560
thought she would have more time
and she would let him be a child
1402
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,400
first because like Daryl said,
this is a huge burden to put on
1403
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,600
a child.
I don't think she was expecting
1404
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:44,080
for could drone to show up at
the Abbey and and do what he
1405
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,480
did.
I don't think you know, she
1406
01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:47,280
wasn't expecting Darryl to show
up.
1407
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,720
She wasn't They they lived a
peaceful life for 12 years.
1408
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,880
Nobody ever came right.
So where you gonna wait till he
1409
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,960
was 30 when you're dying to say,
oh, let me show you how to kill
1410
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,680
a Walker?
No, she probably would have
1411
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,240
waited until he was like 18-6 or
well 16 because I think in
1412
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:07,280
France legally I think 16 is
where the so she probably you
1413
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,000
think.
I don't think she would have
1414
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,960
waited 16.
They would have just been living
1415
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,680
there.
He'd be like, let me go off.
1416
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,640
And she's like, no, you're
special.
1417
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,840
No, I don't think so, because
eventually he's going to have to
1418
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,560
go do whatever he's supposed to
be doing for humanity.
1419
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:25,320
He's going to become the
Messiah, whatever that entails.
1420
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:29,160
So I, I really think she was
just trying to protect his
1421
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,040
childhood for as long as she
could.
1422
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,360
And again, that's not something
you can really do in a world.
1423
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,080
In the situation that you're in.
Yeah.
1424
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,240
But that's why I said I don't
know.
1425
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,600
I just think she was in denial
and she just didn't know what to
1426
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,200
do.
I don't know.
1427
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,000
And guess what?
All the other nuns just went
1428
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,920
with her.
Yeah, but how her back?
1429
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,480
They were talking about her.
But what makes her the the the
1430
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:58,200
the the beacon of light to give
all the direction?
1431
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,600
What made her the?
Because that was his aunt.
1432
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,600
Because that's his aunt.
Yeah, she's the aunt.
1433
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,200
So they were like, we can't say
nothing.
1434
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,720
Yeah, like it's, it's not like,
well, I mean.
1435
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,040
They could have said something.
They could have, and technically
1436
01:25:13,480 --> 01:25:15,600
they probably could have kept
the child and they could have
1437
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,880
kicked her out.
But I'm sorry cause 'cause
1438
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,040
reading the Bible to the dead
priest, what life lesson have we
1439
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:26,400
learned from that?
What's the lesson in that?
1440
01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:29,120
Please let me know.
He was reading to his friendly.
1441
01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:33,160
Oh my gosh, but.
Now that you outside them gates,
1442
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,880
what what what you going to do
with that skill talk to walk of
1443
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,720
the death?
What what you going to?
1444
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:40,840
Do I mean I got?
Nothing.
1445
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,880
Like I said, I agree he's
special.
1446
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,400
Like his specialness is going to
kill a Walker.
1447
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,520
I I agree wholeheartedly with
Michelle.
1448
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,160
Like I said, I was just trying
to look at it from Izzy's point
1449
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,160
of view and why they.
But that's why I said what?
1450
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,200
They needed to do.
Right.
1451
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,000
And that's why I said he didn't
need a a a spanking.
1452
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:03,480
He just needed.
And training.
1453
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:10,600
And I.
I mean not even that like how to
1454
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,120
hide?
From a walk or something?
1455
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,480
Help him, help him help.
Yeah, because.
1456
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:16,680
Even when they were trying to
hide him in the attic from the
1457
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,040
people with the guns, his ass
was still trying to get out.
1458
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:22,240
I know.
I know does.
1459
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:30,040
If I tell you to stay in this
fucking room, why is you fucking
1460
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,560
with the door knob?
Right, because when he used to
1461
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:34,840
when they used to stay there,
yeah.
1462
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,640
And don't let nobody in.
Don't open the door.
1463
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,680
But again, that.
Is hard.
1464
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,360
I come back to you.
Part of that is due to what
1465
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,760
Michelle said.
They they didn't train him.
1466
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,160
So this one, this one didn't.
Want to listen though?
1467
01:26:50,440 --> 01:26:51,920
He has.
No impulse control.
1468
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,120
He probably has no impulse
control.
1469
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,960
He probably has never been told
knowing his life as far as like,
1470
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,480
yeah, he'd.
Be so naive that you don't sense
1471
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,360
danger.
Danger if you if you've been
1472
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,240
living up behind I don't I.
Don't give a damn.
1473
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,720
I don't care if you've been
living behind closed doors, you
1474
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,440
know, if you hear Powell and see
somebody fall, oh, that's that's
1475
01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:21,120
not safe for me.
I want to stay far away from
1476
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,920
that as I can.
I know, I know.
1477
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:28,480
And if you like, if you say, oh,
something bad coming, stay in
1478
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:31,640
this room.
Maybe he thought that was how he
1479
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,920
was supposed to be the savior.
Maybe he was like, oh, I'm
1480
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,280
supposed to go say these people.
I'm, I'm just, I'm, I'm just
1481
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:42,280
playing devil's advocate.
Sorry by you coming out you have
1482
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:46,680
caused a ruckus.
Because now they know a child is
1483
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:51,520
here and they're like, oh, wait.
We need him for war now because
1484
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,040
you don't want to sit your ass
down in the damn closet.
1485
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:01,120
But at the same time, if they
had killed all the nuns, he
1486
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,240
would have just been stuck in
that closet.
1487
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,120
No, he wouldn't.
No, he wouldn't.
1488
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,960
He got out as bad as he is.
He climbed to the window or
1489
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,200
something.
He'd have got out.
1490
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,800
He would not have said that.
He would have been free.
1491
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,680
No, I'm pulling the Michelle.
I'm trying to explain stuff, no.
1492
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,040
You got it.
I I mean, come on, you got to be
1493
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,160
even a 2 year old.
You got a baby running through
1494
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:28,480
the house.
They see them stairs, they're
1495
01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:30,880
going to be like, oh, wait a
minute, they don't look right.
1496
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,480
No, but they fall down first
though.
1497
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,680
But I'm saying but they gonna
look at it and be like I'm a
1498
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,840
try.
No, not him.
1499
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:41,840
He's just running full fledge
for the stairs.
1500
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,040
Only you just don't.
Because he never had.
1501
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,200
It's so sad we had this concept
because he never had the falling
1502
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,520
down the stairs.
Cause the kids, you fall out the
1503
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,400
bed, you realize, don't jump on
the bed.
1504
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,200
Yeah.
They hadn't let him do that yet.
1505
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:59,120
Yeah, they have emotionally
stunted this human being.
1506
01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:03,920
Yes, they exactly how to listen,
listen.
1507
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:10,040
Obviously, obviously they didn't
because if stay in this closet,
1508
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:16,520
keep the door locked, don't come
out until I come get you no and
1509
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,160
you start fumbling with the lock
so you can get obviously they
1510
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,160
didn't teach him to listen or if
they taught him the lesson did
1511
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,040
not take.
Because he never had to, he
1512
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,440
never experienced like danger.
So he's.
1513
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:28,080
Like they're playing.
I was.
1514
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:30,480
Saying they're playing a game
with me.
1515
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:33,920
They're playing a game.
They would come out in 10
1516
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,280
minutes for my birthday cake,
No.
1517
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,720
No, no.
If you are reading to a man
1518
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,880
through a door and he's growling
and trying to get at you, why
1519
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,760
you ain't getting close.
If you don't know danger this
1520
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,000
Oh, you just go to the door and
read to him.
1521
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:51,280
Let me whisper in your ear.
Read to no You know what danger
1522
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,880
looks like if you get too close
to this man?
1523
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,760
He gonna eat your ass, but he.
Got a little bit of common
1524
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,160
sense?
Yeah, like, come on.
1525
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,320
Yeah, don't get close.
To the wall, but not enough
1526
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,400
common sense to sit your ass
down in this.
1527
01:30:02,440 --> 01:30:04,280
No, because there was no other
danger.
1528
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,520
They were playing the game.
I didn't go speak.
1529
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:08,520
No.
You know what?
1530
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:09,880
We're going to get off this
child.
1531
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:15,680
We go get off this child.
He wasn't, he wasn't raised the
1532
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:19,160
way he needed to be raised.
Like you said, Michelle, he
1533
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:20,760
should.
He really should have been
1534
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:24,240
raised similar to the way Judith
was raised.
1535
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:28,160
This world is all Judith has
known as well as she literally
1536
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:33,440
had a sword put in her hand at 4
even though it was a toy sword
1537
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:35,840
and even though her and Mama
Michonne was sitting there play
1538
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:41,680
fighting, she still had the
upbringing to grow up in this
1539
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,600
world and that was Rick's.
I mean, that was very much
1540
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,720
Rick's doing when he had the
conversation with Michonne and
1541
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,920
told Michonne about Shane and
about I had to accept that she
1542
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:56,880
wasn't, that she was his in
order for her to be mine, in
1543
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,960
order for me to be able to
protect her, in order for me to
1544
01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:02,840
be able to teach her the things
that she needs to survive in
1545
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,360
this world.
Rick had that mindset.
1546
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,600
He wasn't thinking, oh, she's
going to be the little girl that
1547
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,000
saves humanity or whatever.
He's thinking I need to teach
1548
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,680
her to survive in this world.
And when he disappeared,
1549
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:21,880
Michonne carried that.
But in no, I did not lie to they
1550
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,560
damn kids.
Well, that too.
1551
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,840
They lied to a name.
Omit and leave out.
1552
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,080
No, they were very honest.
Yeah, they were very honest with
1553
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:32,120
them.
Yeah.
1554
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,880
So because they really wanted
them to be prepared to survive
1555
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,160
anything.
Right.
1556
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:44,080
And even if you waited till he
was 1816 to teach him at that
1557
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,560
point it would have been, it
still would have been hard.
1558
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,920
And then he will still be, he
will be pissed off too.
1559
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:54,680
You know what I'm saying?
Like you didn't prepare me for
1560
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:58,600
this and you could have told,
you could have told me.
1561
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,040
I could have, you know, made my
decision.
1562
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,240
Cause Laurent might be like.
Me, yeah, 'cause it honestly, to
1563
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,680
be honest with you, he don't
have to really know that that's
1564
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,200
his aunt.
He didn't need to know that.
1565
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,200
He didn't.
He didn't really need to know.
1566
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,640
He need to know who his mom was.
And to be honest, she doesn't
1567
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,760
necessarily know who the daddy
is.
1568
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:22,320
You really don't.
We need, we need Adna test, but
1569
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,400
you don't.
So you can just tell him about
1570
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,040
his mom, you know, and that that
you're special.
1571
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,200
We don't know how special.
What makes you special.
1572
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,360
I just feel like you're special
because you were able to survive
1573
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,360
that.
That means you're a survivor.
1574
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:40,160
You could have been like that.
You're a survivor, and maybe you
1575
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:43,600
as a survivor can help the rest
of us survive and lead us to a a
1576
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,160
new world.
She could have spun it like
1577
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,320
that.
Look at here, Destiny's Child.
1578
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,920
They ain't no survivors.
They can't.
1579
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,000
He can't even survive in the
closet.
1580
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,440
Oh my God, I'm.
Just saying what what she could,
1581
01:32:57,440 --> 01:32:59,720
what she could have done, but
that's not what she did.
1582
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:05,680
And now you have someone who is
unpredictable in a situation.
1583
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:08,280
You need them to be predictable.
You need him to be able to
1584
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,080
listen.
You need for him to not be lost
1585
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,800
and have a little bit of wit
running.
1586
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,440
Off, But how do you not even
know that running off is unsafe?
1587
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:26,120
Because he.
OK, I I will say this, if I see
1588
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:31,600
20 guys coming in the door with
machine guns and starting to
1589
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,680
shoot people, I probably would
run to.
1590
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:39,680
That part I get.
He ran off before that.
1591
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:42,920
He ran off and said I hate you
before that.
1592
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:45,920
So he ran off before the people
even came in.
1593
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,960
But see that again?
And that's the thing, no?
1594
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:52,680
No, Stop making no.
No, no, no, no, I'm not making
1595
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,520
excuse, but I what I was going
to say and see, that's the thing
1596
01:33:55,520 --> 01:34:01,320
that kind of made me wonder
because he said you did this, I
1597
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:05,360
hate you both, which I took as
you were the ones who let them
1598
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:09,560
here because before they went to
the Demi Monde.
1599
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,720
So John probably wouldn't would
have never found where they
1600
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,480
were.
He found where they were because
1601
01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:18,640
of.
Quinn but but he left.
1602
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,200
The little boy left before the
people came in.
1603
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,360
He got them with They was on the
bridge talking.
1604
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,920
I know talking.
Then he said I hate you and he
1605
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,120
left and was going down.
The thing I know.
1606
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:34,120
But you're forgetting the first
part of that sentence, he said.
1607
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:41,080
You did this mean, which is why
I said meaning you let these
1608
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:44,360
people to our door.
You are putting these people in
1609
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:45,640
danger, He.
Didn't say that.
1610
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,120
First, yes, yes he did.
He said you did this.
1611
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,920
I hate you both.
Go back and watch it.
1612
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:54,800
He said you did this.
I hate you both.
1613
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,880
That's why I was like, oh, he
knew that they were coming.
1614
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:02,760
And again, if he was already, if
he was up and walking around, he
1615
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,840
may have seen them through the
windows and and whatever.
1616
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:10,280
But if he wasn't, if he sensed
it, then that's a whole other
1617
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:14,240
conversation about what Laurent
can or can't do.
1618
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,880
But yeah, he says you did this.
I hate you both.
1619
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:26,160
Which in my mind means you let
these people to the to this door
1620
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,400
and now people are going to die
because of it.
1621
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:33,120
Because you see towards the end
of the episode when Isabel is
1622
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:37,280
walking through calling
Laurent's name, she's literally
1623
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:43,840
stepping over dead bodies.
So I feel like whether he saw
1624
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,680
them coming, whether he sensed
it, whatever, he knew that
1625
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,920
danger was coming.
And he blames Laurent.
1626
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,800
I mean, he blames Izzy and Daryl
for it.
1627
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:58,120
So I mean, if he knew they were
coming, I I, yeah, I would have
1628
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,120
got on too.
Like, yeah, let me get out of
1629
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:04,360
here before the shooting starts,
because once the shooting
1630
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,480
starts, you can't control where
those bullets go.
1631
01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:07,840
That's.
True.
1632
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,040
But let's see, I'm trying to
think.
1633
01:36:12,440 --> 01:36:16,400
We've talked about the dynamics
with Izzy and Quinn.
1634
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,080
We talked about the glorious
nightclub again.
1635
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:24,160
If if a Walker apoc if a, if a
zombie apocalypse happens,
1636
01:36:24,440 --> 01:36:27,560
please make sure I'm somewhere
where the nightlife or the
1637
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:33,920
entertainment will keep going.
Because yeah, no, the governor,
1638
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,640
he he had, you know, he was
trying to do his little
1639
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,920
entertainment thing.
But watching the walkers fight
1640
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:46,160
gladiatorial style, that's not
no, give me the drag queen, give
1641
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:49,480
me the singer, give me the
dancers on the lyrics.
1642
01:36:49,480 --> 01:36:51,280
And yeah, give me all that
stuff.
1643
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:53,800
Let me let me have fun with.
That.
1644
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,560
Anything else we need to discuss
about this episode?
1645
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:02,960
I think we kind of got into our
feelings about Laurent in the
1646
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:04,760
way he was raised.
But I mean.
1647
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:08,680
But that's what makes this such
a great yeah, yeah.
1648
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:12,560
Because you know, and
realistically it, it's just a
1649
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,480
hard decision to make either way
of what you need to do during
1650
01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:18,360
the time you needed to make and
what you thought was the right
1651
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,040
decision.
And let me do your best.
1652
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,720
And let me just say this, I talk
a lot of shit about whooping
1653
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,800
kids, but I need whoop my kids,
right?
1654
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,080
So yeah.
And so, you know, we.
1655
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:30,760
I can't even follow it.
I could be lied to.
1656
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:32,080
Yeah.
I don't know who your mom and
1657
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,680
daddy is.
We just found you on the curve.
1658
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,880
I mean.
But see, that don't make sense
1659
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,600
because now all of a sudden you
telling him stuff about his
1660
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:42,120
Mama.
Oh, your Mama went to high
1661
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:45,720
school here.
And yeah, here's a picture of
1662
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,800
your mom because you know, Laron
had to see him.
1663
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:49,640
Think how did you get a picture
of my Mama?
1664
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:51,680
Yeah, because I went back to my
apartment.
1665
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:56,240
Right, so and I just had to stop
by your mama's apartment and get
1666
01:37:56,240 --> 01:38:00,080
this like I can understand she
might have told obviously if she
1667
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,720
said your Mama went to to high
school down the street,
1668
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,840
obviously Mama was from in the
area and she knew Mama.
1669
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:10,200
But yeah, for you all of a
sudden start sharing this stuff
1670
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:11,600
now.
It's kind of like.
1671
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,960
And I think Darryl is kind of
weaving his way into her, like,
1672
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,560
you know, he needs to know who
he is and stuff.
1673
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:23,160
So but my my only before we end,
where's the drugs?
1674
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:28,560
They probably left them at at
Quinn's place because remember
1675
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,960
that they stormed out in a huff.
They should have took those.
1676
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,200
Those are good exchanges for
things.
1677
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:37,920
She would have had to go back
down into that, into that little
1678
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:41,200
lounge area and Quinn would have
followed them because, you know,
1679
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:43,160
once all this stuff came out
about Quinn.
1680
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:44,600
No.
Did she take the drugs from the
1681
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,240
I missed that.
Did she take it from the
1682
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,960
fireplace, the whole container?
No, she didn't take the whole
1683
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:51,240
container.
OK, that's why I was, I was
1684
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:55,160
saying, did she take that?
I think she probably put some of
1685
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,480
that back because you don't want
to give away.
1686
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:02,160
All of your, your, your stuff.
Oh, OK, I'll just make sure
1687
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:06,120
because I'm like that's some you
know, that's pure that's from
1688
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:10,360
before, right, Right.
So she probably that's some good
1689
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:13,880
just in exchange for guns.
Go back later.
1690
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:18,480
OK, Yeah, I missed that.
OK, Yeah, no, I think she that
1691
01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:19,920
was it.
She took some of it.
1692
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,000
So.
But she can make good choices
1693
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,680
about that, right?
You know what?
1694
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,800
And on that note, that is it for
our show.
1695
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:31,200
You can find us online at
www.phantomhybrid.com.
1696
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:34,600
We are on social media, on all
the social media at Phantom
1697
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:36,720
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You can chat with us on our
1698
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:38,840
Discord channel.
You can watch our videos on our
1699
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,680
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listen to us on all major
1700
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,440
podcast streaming platforms.
Thanks for listening.
1701
01:39:44,440 --> 01:39:46,400
We hope you join the
conversation next time.
1702
01:40:16,230 --> 01:40:16,470
Music.
00:00:24,950 --> 00:00:27,550
What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode
2
00:00:27,590 --> 00:00:30,870
of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here
3
00:00:30,870 --> 00:00:35,830
with Michelle and Casey after a
very, very extended hiatus.
4
00:00:35,830 --> 00:00:38,630
We are so sorry, but life has
been lifing.
5
00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,680
Yes, absolutely.
Some of us have been traveling,
6
00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,760
some of us have been sick.
We all went to the camp, which
7
00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,800
is The Walking Dead convention
that is here at the end of May.
8
00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,560
We went to that, had a fabulous
time, and now we're like, OK, we
9
00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,400
need to finish up these Daryl
Dixon episodes, especially since
10
00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,480
we have a Season 2 premiere date
now.
11
00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,760
September 29th is when it's
coming back.
12
00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,160
Great because that means that
this is probably the quickest
13
00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:12,200
spin off to come back because
they just premiered last year
14
00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,840
last September, remember, right,
right after time.
15
00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,480
So this is right around a year.
Great.
16
00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,560
We're getting season 2, the book
of Carol.
17
00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,240
They've been showing some of the
trailers, which have been great,
18
00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,520
and we probably will do a
separate show to break down the
19
00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,760
trailers and talk about that a
little bit.
20
00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,400
But we're going to get into
episode 3 of Daryl Dixon.
21
00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:45,120
And let me say the beginning of
this episode, I was looking at
22
00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,280
the screen trying to figure out
what the fuck I was watching.
23
00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,800
Like this dude in the theater
with the Walker band.
24
00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,760
I was like when I watched this
episode, I said, Oh my God, I
25
00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,120
hear Casey and I hear Michelle.
No, excuse me, let me stop.
26
00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,040
I hear Michelle in my head right
now like.
27
00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,680
What the fuck is?
Wrong with this?
28
00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,640
Well, you know, you have to have
some type of entertainment, you
29
00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:16,000
know.
I mean, and if he's been living
30
00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,640
there this whole time, I think
we've already established this.
31
00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,000
This timeline right now is
probably somewhere between the
32
00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,000
15 and 20 year mark.
If he's been there in that
33
00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:35,720
theater by himself the whole
time, you're gonna lose a couple
34
00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,560
of your marbles.
Yeah.
35
00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,520
But he not by himself.
Remember Brian's in the kitchen.
36
00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,040
You really?
Think somebody in the kitchen,
37
00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,520
girl.
No, he thinks, somebody in the
38
00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,440
kitchen.
Brian up on that stage.
39
00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,720
Well, I see.
I'm going to defend him.
40
00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:59,280
So he was being very creative,
innovative because he was
41
00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,040
lonely.
So it's, you know, I would like
42
00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,680
to hear some music.
I ran out of my records.
43
00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:09,720
So why don't I use my resources
wisely, OK?
44
00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,480
So.
So we've seen this before.
45
00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,520
We saw it in the main show with
Princess and her her little
46
00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,160
diorama of the walkers on the
streets.
47
00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,200
But you know what the?
She wasn't creative enough to
48
00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,480
make a band.
OK, but but here that's true
49
00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,200
too.
Here's the big.
50
00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,960
She was limited.
No, I won't even say she was
51
00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,760
limited.
Princess was smart.
52
00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,960
She was like, I'm not about to
make a lot of noise.
53
00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,160
I'm not about to draw a whole
bunch of folks, a whole bunch of
54
00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,680
walkers, a whole bunch of people
who might have some nefarious.
55
00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,160
Yeah, no, she, hers was quiet.
It was still entertaining, but
56
00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,760
it was quiet.
I need to know how this dude has
57
00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,800
survived for so long with these
walkers tied up to these
58
00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,960
instruments and that street is
not swarming with.
59
00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:04,040
Walkers.
Because it's a theater and you
60
00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:10,360
know, theater and the sound they
make it where you can't, they're
61
00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,520
not gonna hear how the.
Street heard the sound.
62
00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,520
I'm just gonna.
Say, 'cause at the end when
63
00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,920
they're coming out it, it was
some sound.
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I'm just helping them out like.
No.
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There is no and you know and you
know the lack of walkers in the
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area.
Period.
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But they sure came this time.
After Darrell shot that.
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But you know, the the the bang
from the shotgun is probably
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more specific.
The loud from the music, it's
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probably in the air.
Yeah, it's flowing in the air it
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honestly.
Is wait the pinpoint always
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coming from this building?
So yeah, I didn't ask y'all to
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make sense right now, no.
It's making noise in the
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atmosphere, but that.
When it's flowing, they don't
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really know where that that
sound is coming from.
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OK, I I will accept that because
it did sound like he had
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speakers set up so I it probably
did deflect the sound but still
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it was like one he doesn't seem
like he has.
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I'm trying to think of a nice
way to do it.
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The elevator is not going to the
top.
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It's not, I'm just trying to
help him out.
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It's not if that's just a a side
effect from being alone for so
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long, or if this was the way he
was.
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I'm assuming it probably wasn't
the way he started out because
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if he actually had a working
radio, if he actually was able
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to communicate with people, you
know, I don't know what happened
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to the radio.
Maybe maybe something died,
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maybe it broke.
He couldn't fix it.
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And that's why he started you
because like you said, he
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probably had to entertain
himself.
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You don't have a, a, a
connection to the outside world
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anymore.
And if you've been in that
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theater the whole time, you're
probably scared to leave.
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But my question is how did you
get the walkers and actually
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like get them set up to where
you were able to secure them to
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these instruments so that they
don't break loose they and like.
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And bite you.
I don't know.
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It's a dangerous, that is.
Because like, we know Michelle
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will cut the mouth off like
nobody else thinks of that.
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Like, you know, 'cause, 'cause
even even with the way you got
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them tied up and, you know,
somebody always and and, and
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they end up breaking free, you
know, if you did the cause do
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the Michonne and just cut the
jaws off they get.
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But nobody ever thinks of that.
But no that.
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If you won't use.
The Walker for protection or
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entertainment or any of these
other millions of reasons that
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you do what you do, why wouldn't
you protect yourself so that it
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won't kill you?
He wasn't thinking this plan all
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the way through.
Clearly, Very clearly.
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How long, like how often do you
have to change these walkers
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out?
Because I'm going to assume that
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you can't keep a Walker like
that for 15 years without some
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type of deterioration, without
some type of breaking down of
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the skin, the muscles, the
tissues, the bones.
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You have to be replacing these
things.
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Like who is doing that?
I don't.
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I.
Think Michelle, he's doing that
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is just like, it's just like
when you have to work on your
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instrument, like the strings
have to be replaced, those type
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of things.
And that's what he does.
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So when he won't?
Bite you back.
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Right.
However, I don't know how he is
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doing it, but we also have to
think he is musically inclined.
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He could be a genius and being
by yourself not being able to
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actually have deep conversation
with other adults on your level
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has drove him mad.
I wish the people who are just
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listening to audio only could
see the faces we are making
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while we're trying to justify
with this guy.
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Justify.
Why he crazy as a jaybird?
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I mean.
Because you got to think
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somewhere out there there's a
person who likes chess and they
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have a Walker on the other side
of the table with their hands
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holding chess pieces and they
move it with strings to feel
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like they're playing chess with
someone.
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You're right, 'cause I mean if
you lonely enough and you like
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fuck, let me talk to let me talk
to dead Fred or something,
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'cause you, I mean at some point
you.
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Right.
So you gotta think no, right?
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You got somebody who like play
cards, they got some.
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You got like three people at the
table with them with cards and
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they hang in.
But cut their mouth off, That's
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true.
But he doesn't know.
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He doesn't know.
He won't know until he get
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beaten.
And then he needs to do that.
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Yeah.
And and be too late.
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It's.
Too late and the music.
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Stops so oh.
But the music don't.
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Stop as as much as I'm sitting
here free.
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When I'm go from get free and
get his ad they.
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Are see, that's, that's my
concern because I'm like, again,
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you can only use those same
walkers for so long.
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I mean, they did look somewhat
deteriorated.
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So maybe this was a more recent
thing for him.
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Like I said, I don't think he
has been in this mindset the
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whole time.
It just, it doesn't make sense.
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He just started off with
somebody with tambourines.
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Or the drums.
Remember he had the little thing
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they hands.
Wrapped right.
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So then he after one, he was
like, OK, I got this.
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Let's go capture a Walker.
The funny one.
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Is the harpist one.
It's just the head hanging out.
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I was like, so done.
I was so done.
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But The funny thing is, as much
as I'm sitting here voicing my
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concerns and voicing my
disbelief that this man has
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created this little system, I
was still a little bit annoyed
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with Darrell because Darrell was
like, are you fucking kidding
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me?
Like this is a waste of time.
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Yeah, he said.
This was a stupid detour.
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This was a.
No, this may have been a lot.
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He's been alone for how many
years?
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You have had family around you,
you've had people that you care
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about, you've had other
children.
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Right, people he care about that
he trying to get back to and you
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can't say you got a damn radio
and you didn't use the parts for
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you got damn Walker Symphony
over there.
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Well, he didn't actually say it.
That was what Isabel has said,
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because this was someone they
had communicated with before.
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So what?
Was that if he done destroyed
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the damn radio already?
Yeah, but she did it.
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She.
Wouldn't have known it, she
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wouldn't have known it.
And I'm I'm going to take a
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break real quick to apologize in
advance if y'all hear a lot of
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stuff in the background.
We have a brand new kitten in
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the house and right now him and
Leia are currently at a
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standoff.
So there's a lot of hissing
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going on in my room.
So if it picks up, that's what
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it is.
Nobody's dying.
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It's just, you know, not a lot
of hissing.
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Yeah.
You should hear it over here.
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I'm like somebody sounding like
a Walker right now.
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Just with all the growling and
all this other.
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They said it's only room for one
of us up in here.
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Tiger Lily has not even come
upstairs.
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She has not come upstairs since
I brought Apollo home.
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She comes upstairs using the
litter box.
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Who is this new person who goes
with downstairs?
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Yep, like why did she do this to
me and.
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You know, and, you know, she had
the conversation with herself.
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Like, I only have one person to
contend with.
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And and she was, you know, the
hierarchy of the house.
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I only have one person I had to
deal with.
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Yeah.
This new person.
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Yeah.
So also those of us who are
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those of you who are watching,
if you happen to see our newest
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podcast host pop up in the, you
know, in in the camera, that's
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Apollo.
So anyway, going back to this
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theater, so at the end of last
episode, you know, after the
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Abbey was attacked and
everything, Daryl and Isabel,
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we're trying to figure out where
they were going to go.
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Daryl was like, we need to go to
Paris, and Isabel was the one
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who actually said, no, let's go
to Angier because there's a guy
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with the radio there.
He may be able to help you
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communicate with someone back
home so we can get you home.
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OK, so obviously this doesn't
work, but I think in a sense, I
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would say the detour probably
helped them and at the same time
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didn't help them because we see
that Codron has looked at the
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map.
This is the big gorilla dude who
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thinks Daryl killed his brother.
He looked at the map that was at
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the Abbey and he sees that their
destination is Paris.
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So he's like, OK, I'm going to
go to Paris and find him.
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The thing is, OK, y'all aren't
in Paris right now, so maybe
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y'all can miss each other.
I don't think that's going to
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happen, but maybe you invite
each other at least, you know,
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we we see at the end of it it
doesn't.
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But at the same time, I feel
like if they had had it, we'll
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get to that.
Part see.
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I'll get him quick and feel
though, but we'll get there.
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But but I think because he went
straight to Paris, he didn't
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take the detour.
See Darren them took the detour.
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I think if.
They would have.
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Stopped.
If they had.
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Gone straight to Paris.
They'd have gotten there quicker
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and Daryl could have been gone
at that point.
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Because you know what?
We find that once they do get to
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Paris and they find, they find
the people that Isabel had been
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communicating with, or that's
part of this big movement of
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theirs that kind of focuses on
Laurent being this little savior
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figure.
Their method of communication is
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homing pigeons.
Girl, Daryl was so hot.
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Like what is this shit right
here?
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And I mean, OK, again Darrell,
you got to understand you are in
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a whole different country.
Things are just a little bit
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different.
If you didn't notice this in the
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1st 2 episodes, you definitely
know that in this one, you guys
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exploding walkers who are
getting up from falling out of
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two and three and four story
apartments.
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They are falling on the ground
going splat and getting up and
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kind of cracking their neck, you
know, and keep going.
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What, You've already seen the
burn and walk.
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Isabella standing there like she
ain't never said if she.
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Don't.
OK.
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So I think she was traumatized
because she saw the little girl
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that she had told to go home.
You know that in that first
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episode?
Yeah, hurtfully.
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And she told the little girl,
Amy, to go home.
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So to come into the courtyard
and to see her zombified corpse
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stuck in brambles, I was like,
first of all, how did she get
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there?
And I'm thinking before she made
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it to her house, she probably
got attacked.
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Remember when Isabelle Quinn and
her sister were leaving, there
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was a car crash right outside
the building.
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And at that point people were
turning like almost instantly.
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So it's possible that somebody
from that accident or maybe just
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somebody else who had been
attacked came across the little
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girl, attacked her and she just,
she ended up not going anywhere.
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And then the the kind of the
tree branches and the Ivy and
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everything just kind of grew up
around her.
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And now she's stuck.
And it's just, I think she was
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traumatized by that because, I
mean, anybody else probably at
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that time probably would have
thought, hey, I don't know
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what's going on.
I don't know where your parents
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are getting the car.
I'm not leaving you here to die.
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I mean, cause at that point, the
world is kind of falling apart.
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Nobody would exactly accuse you
of kidnapping a child.
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You know, you say the child.
And chances are, I mean, if she
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ended up in that courtyard,
chances are her parents didn't
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make it either.
Her parents could have been two
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of the people that fell out of
those fell.
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Out the.
Window yeah, but I was like you
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you have the burning walkers
because they were used one of
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those burning walkers to kind of
burn away the branches when they
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couldn't get out the door.
I was like, OK, he's.
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I like that.
No.
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His feet, yes.
Inventive.
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Innovative, right?
But but you have all of this
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stuff going on.
You're seeing things in France
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that you have never encountered
in your area, you know, in the
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States, whatever.
So maybe do things a little bit
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differently.
Maybe a home and pigeon is the
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only Safeway.
Well, first of all, I mean,
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honestly, that's what we used in
the past.
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So.
And that's what he said, that's
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what Master Raymond said.
And I, I'm gonna call him Master
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Raymond, 'cause I can't think
of.
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Right, so I'm kinda be like,
come on, Daryl, we gotta get on
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the same page.
See, we need to be like this at
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home.
We don't have other ways, OK?
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You can't text a friend, right?
And I'm sorry, these monkey
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talkies, these walkie talkies,
you really should be dead.
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But you know.
I mean, we've had this
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conversation and and they're not
reliable.
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I mean, you know.
So the pigeon, you know.
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States listening to Carol on the
radio, trying to tell you
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somebody came home and of course
the name kind of cut out so you
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can't hear so the so the radios
aren't even.
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Like so a a a pigeon.
Come on now, a pigeon is not
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going to fly from France to
America.
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No, we no, we're not going to
have bats.
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No, you got.
Stops just like a train station.
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No, there ain't no stops from
that pigeon, isn't there?
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I'm just.
Saying over the ocean, he ain't
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got nowhere to land if he.
Gets no no, he can't take no
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break.
No, sit on the.
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Water he However, it's something
we can use locally and it's a
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great idea.
We going back to our, you know,
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it's going back to our roots,
the communication.
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Is going to be I don't know, but
I mean, maybe it doesn't have to
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go all the way to the states.
Maybe it just needs to go to
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another station where another
wherever, wherever the pigeons
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are going.
And maybe they those people have
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a radio and can call to the
states, you know, so that's what
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I'm thinking.
I'm not I'm not saying that
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they're relying completely on
the homing pigeons.
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This particular group is having
to because of course, as we see,
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they don't have a radio.
You know, but it's the best
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form, it's the best form of
communication because honestly,
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the radio, if you're trying to
be sneaky and using the radio,
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somebody else made listening on
the radio, but the bird, they
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don't know which bird is your
bird.
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And unless you absolutely know
that that is an actual messaging
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system.
Right I.
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Think to look at a pigeon and be
like, oh I need to shoot that
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down right 'cause they
containing a top secret message
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like who's?
Thinking that, well, they
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should, because again, that's a
form of communication that's
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reliable.
However, you just don't know
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which bird to shoot.
But again, who if you hungry it
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don't?
Matter which bird you get or
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what message he really well,
'cause I'm sorry at at this
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point.
I mean, they have a system where
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they have gardens and ways to
produce food and for the people
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that's out there, they can't.
I see a bird, I'm like every
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Tuesday around 3:00 I see this
bird come by.
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I'm gonna get his ass and he
gonna be lunch.
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And then you when you when you
chewing.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You chewing, you be like, what's
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this, a piece of paper?
Why would hold up the mess of
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the?
Paper before you actually cook
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the birds like.
No, no, no they not.
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Some people be so hungry they
putting it on there with the
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feathers and all on the spigots.
Just boom boom Krispies get a
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skiing.
Because if a zombie apocalypse
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like that happens, I'm I'm going
to starve.
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You're not going to find me.
You're not going to find me
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eating pigeons with feathers,
and you're not going to find me
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eating raw turtles off the
ground.
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It's just not about to happen.
It's not going.
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Oh my gosh, that's nasty.
It's just I'm.
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I mean, I'm just saying we've
seen it.
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It's not going to happen.
Eating it was just trying to
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survive somehow.
I know.
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Still not gonna happen.
I think I have enough meat on my
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bones to last me for a minute.
I will just.
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Yeah.
No, we won't do it.
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You have to be like the the
little kid on the golden shower.
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He's.
Ate a leaf a day no OK goodness.
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So let's talk about this group.
So it's interesting because as
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they're walking to Paris, they
start having conversations and
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you see again, Laurent opening
up a little bit more to Daryl,
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but I also think you see Isabel
opening up as well.
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I will say this.
I know she been open but.
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Well, I mean as far as like.
With Laurent, I know I'm just
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no.
'Cause we're, we're about to go
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there, 'cause you, you were
pulling, you, you were pulling
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the direction I was coming.
I feel kind of feel like they
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are trying to give us this
little like semi romantic vibe
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between Isabel and Darrell.
And I am not here for it.
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Like I can understand there
might be a little bit of
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tension.
I mean, Isabel has been a nun
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for the last however many years
and we clearly see in this
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episode she was not about that
life before this apocalypse
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happened.
You know, we saw it from the
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fall of Paris.
She was a party girl.
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She was a drug addict.
Apparently.
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You know, she also has some
issues.
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We see where Quinn talks about
how he found her in the bathtub
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after she tried to kill herself.
He was the one who took her to
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the hospital nurse to the house.
So we know that they she ain't,
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she's not the stereotypical
image of what we think a nun is,
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right?
And she even said that Darryl,
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when they go back and find her
old stash of drugs and stolen
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things, she she.
Changed her ways.
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Yeah, I wasn't always a nun.
He was like, I see that.
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It's but I don't look at them as
romantic.
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I don't see Darryl as having a
romantic feeling for her.
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I think it's more protective.
And, and I get that, but I feel
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like, I feel like there's an
undercurrent that they're trying
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to I, I don't know, like it.
It almost feels like they're
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suggesting it.
And I'm just like, I don't wanna
400
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see it.
I didn't get that.
401
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It's kind of, it's kind of hard
to 'cause when you know, when
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you're in Paris, you know, it's
just so hard.
403
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What?
I don't even.
404
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Know if it is, it's just so
hard.
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It's just, you know, it's not
like we, you know, in the forest
406
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in Atlanta.
It's just this is a different
407
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vibe going on and then they and
they may not be that's what I'm
408
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,920
saying.
It may not be says to it's just
409
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that you just it's just that
vibe in the air for everybody.
410
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,840
You know, you know, everyone may
breakdown.
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I mean, I think, you know,
that's why that man went crazy
412
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and made his, you know, Walker,
you know, it's that vibe, you
413
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,480
know, you just, and he's like
American in Paris.
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It's something new, something.
Because not only is she saying
415
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the stuff, for those of you who
are just listening, she sit
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here, she got the, she got the
little look going to the camera,
417
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she got the the little head
shaking.
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She's shimmying her shoulders a
little bit.
419
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So she's saying that that's not
the vibe, but she's also saying
420
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,960
that's a little bit of the vibe.
I'm not, right?
421
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,640
It is.
And if she starts speaking
422
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French to be like, oh, yes, I
mean, this is different.
423
00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:02,440
This is different.
That's why he not like he
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normally is at home.
It's like a vacation, you know,
425
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,560
you everybody know this.
You go on that vacation,
426
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,160
especially if you kind of sing
and you just be vibing, vibing.
427
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,560
That's what he's doing.
I can't.
428
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,400
And it's gonna end 'cause she's
not gonna leave and he's gonna
429
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go home.
So, you know, and she just so so
430
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they can't make him have no real
relationship.
431
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:26,280
I don't feel like it's a blatant
thing, I just feel like it's
432
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kind of like it's.
There they just trying to throw,
433
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,400
they're trying to make, they're
trying to throw it out there.
434
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,080
It's like Connie, they threw it
out there, but they just didn't
435
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like.
It's like fishing, no?
436
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Connie that that was a that was
a thing like.
437
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,560
It is it was a thing for us with
you they together.
438
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So what I'm trying to say is it
seem like all these women when
439
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they get around there or the sun
around there, especially when he
440
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clean.
And that was the other thing I
441
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was going to say because I feel
like even though there is that
442
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little undercurrent there of
whatever it could be, I also
443
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:09,240
feel like they're they kind of
using it to show maybe not
444
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,840
necessarily Daryl's sex appeal
or his attractiveness, but just
445
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the fact that for all of these
women that he has been around
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where there's Carol, Leah,
Connie, whatever, he's a safe
447
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space when I and I do feel that,
but the the vibe to me still
448
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comes off a little bit weird.
You.
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You.
Point with that vibe when she
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was bathing him, which could be
a point but you went with that
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too when she was giving him a
bath it.
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Was not because I was like.
I don't even sound like giving
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him a bath, but you know, that's
what she did though.
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Like that would don't didn't
even open up to the people he's
455
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lived with for years that that
freely so but that for bad.
456
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That for bad.
Yeah.
457
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,320
I mean, he gave him when him and
Beth was together.
458
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Yeah, they opened up to each
other a lot, but.
459
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Yeah.
But I think also because there
460
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was a, there was a bit of a
kinsmanship between him and Beth
461
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because I because both of them
were damaged in different ways.
462
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And I think that's why they
gravitated towards each other.
463
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,160
And I think had we had Beth
lived, I think you would have
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seen the type of relationship
that he had with like, say,
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Rosita where it was.
And I know that there were some
466
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people who shipped those too.
I just don't understand Darrell
467
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because.
Darrell and Rosita.
468
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,640
No.
Darrell and Beth.
469
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OH, there were people who
shipped Daryl and Beth, but I
470
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think with that vibe, I think it
would have been more like Big
471
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Brother.
I can see here sorry, so how?
472
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Can you see Daryl and Beth?
But you can't see what they're
473
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doing here with Daryl and
Isabel.
474
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:05,560
I didn't say I couldn't, I'm
just saying Isabel had been and
475
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,560
you don't need a man.
That's not what I'm saying.
476
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,840
So don't get this from this, but
Isabel last man was an asshole
477
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,520
and she with no man sense and
the man who is a good kind man,
478
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you can see it in his eyes comes
along.
479
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,120
You can't help it though.
You can't help to fill the pool.
480
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,800
And Darrell already pulls.
He's that type of personality he
481
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,200
pulls now.
If it was the dare what we first
482
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,040
met, Nah, this relationship
wouldn't have been.
483
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,960
Happening but this Daryl here
the ears on the the the.
484
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,320
Yeah, that that would she would
have been like.
485
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,280
But this Daryl here where you,
even though you can protect your
486
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,080
own self, you feel safe.
He gives off the vibe that he
487
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,400
does not judge, that he actually
is listening, even though he's
488
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,240
quiet most of the time.
Yeah, you're gonna have a vibe
489
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,160
with him and yeah, you're gonna
wanna have to screw him too.
490
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,840
However, this ain't a long term.
Relationship No 'cause Darren
491
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,320
needs to go home.
There's too much 'cause.
492
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,480
He gonna go.
I feel like he gonna go home.
493
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,720
So what's gonna happen?
Either she dies or she stays,
494
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,240
but she not coming to America.
Yeah, I don't see that,
495
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:27,280
especially not with Laurent
being the figure that they have
496
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,040
made him out to be.
Like they have literally, I
497
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,920
don't want to say promote it,
but they have kind of raised
498
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,680
this little boy up as to be like
the next Messiah or humanity's
499
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,960
next hope, which like Darren
said, that's a lot to put on a
500
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child.
But with that also being her
501
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,960
nephew.
And and this is going back to my
502
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,960
original point.
This is what I mean by her being
503
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,320
more open because when you first
meet her with Laurent, it's like
504
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,640
she's caring, but you can tell
she's holding him at a distance.
505
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,200
And then we find out that that
with her sister's child and also
506
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,680
what the implications of his
birth could mean, he kind of
507
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,360
she's looking at him like he has
a greater purpose.
508
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,080
And if I allow myself to get too
attached to him, I may not be
509
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,440
able to let him go to fulfill
that purpose is kind of similar
510
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,720
to what we see in The Last of Us
with Joel and Ellie.
511
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,560
You know, that was also another
relationship where Joel was
512
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,680
taking Ellie to the doctors.
He had planned on having no
513
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,600
attachment to her.
And then when it gets to the
514
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,720
end, she's like his child.
And he can't, he can't get rid
515
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,920
of his own feelings or he can't
tamper down his own feelings in
516
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,200
order to help the greater good.
You know what I'm saying?
517
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,120
And you kind of get there.
I, I, I kind of feel like you
518
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,360
see that a little bit more with
Isabel in this episode,
519
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,240
especially because she's talking
to Laurent so much now about his
520
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,800
mother.
And I don't think she did that
521
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,280
as much before.
So it's kind of like you're
522
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,360
giving him these little tidbits
and these little pieces.
523
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,080
But I still feel like at this
point she has not told him that
524
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,320
she is his aunt.
And I think that's kind of why
525
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,280
Daryl is so upset with her cuz
he's like, you need to stop
526
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,160
lying to this boy.
You need to just tell him the
527
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,920
truth.
You know, you can say, Oh yes, I
528
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,200
knew your mother and and give
these little tidbits, but
529
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,840
there's something more there.
And that little boy needs to
530
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,760
know.
And like Darrell say, he needs
531
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,600
to know where he comes from.
Right.
532
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,120
And it is we going to go back to
this back and forth.
533
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,640
There's really, honestly, come
on friends, there is no reason
534
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,120
why you shouldn't have been told
him who he was.
535
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,280
I mean.
I agree, I thought he knew he
536
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,840
was the aunt.
I don't think he knows that
537
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,960
she's his aunt yet because
you've never heard, you've never
538
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,760
heard either one of them refer
to each other aunt or nephew.
539
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,360
Even in So when he's talking to
the singer and she looks at
540
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,000
Isabel and Quinn, who she, you
know, bumps into during the
541
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,960
course of this this episode, she
looks at him and says, are those
542
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,640
your parents?
He says no.
543
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,920
Now, he could have easily said,
oh, no, that's my aunt.
544
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,800
That's my guardian.
That's the person who raised me
545
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,800
something.
He just says no.
546
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,960
But again, this child will run.
I feel like he actually does see
547
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,120
things and know things before
they happen.
548
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,720
I don't know if he understood at
this point that Quinn was his
549
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,320
father.
I don't think he he put those
550
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,960
two together yet.
But for the singer to look at
551
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,840
Isabel and Quinn, and I don't
know if it was just the way that
552
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,080
he was behaving, his body
language, something about the
553
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,480
way that he was with Isabel, she
was immediately suspicious.
554
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,960
All.
Of these people around in a oh
555
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,680
OK hold on.
We're gonna take a we're gonna
556
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120
take a break from that.
I'm, I'm gonna stop that train
557
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,480
of thought.
If the world comes to an end, I
558
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,000
am going to Paris.
Because over here they have a
559
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:14,040
Walker, gladiator fights, and in
Paris they have a whole fucking
560
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,400
nightclub, complete with a drag
queen, complete with
561
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,320
entertainment, complete with
dancers.
562
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,800
I'm going to Paris.
I'm going.
563
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,200
To go clearly in the wrong
place.
564
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:32,400
Clearly I am going to I am going
to struggle my way through the
565
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:38,120
catacomb entrance because that
would freak me out already.
566
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,160
If you haven't seen it, go look
at a movie.
567
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,640
It's called as above was as
above, so below.
568
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,480
It's about it's.
Yeah, it's a horror movie that
569
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,280
takes place in the catacombs.
Nope, I just the sad part is as
570
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,600
it's on the screen right now.
I thought about it too and I'm
571
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,720
like, I haven't watched it and I
don't want to.
572
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,840
But I.
I want to sleep.
573
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,920
I would brave going through the
catacombs if I could just spend
574
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,840
my zombie apocalypse in a
nightclub where they have he has
575
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,760
alcohol.
He has art.
576
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,639
He like commandeered art from
the museums.
577
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,080
He has real alcohol, not the
bootleg shit, not the I'm gonna
578
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,280
go make this in a factory in a
in a beer fact.
579
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,040
No, he has real alcohol.
He has I'm that's where I'm
580
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,400
going.
That is where I'm going.
581
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,520
But anyway, going back to my
point.
582
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,880
But yeah, I I don't know if
Laurent picked up on the vine,
583
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,159
but he obviously knew something
was there.
584
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:46,120
And like Daryl said, this boy
deserves to know where he's
585
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560
from.
When you when we find out that
586
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:58,200
Quinn is the father of Laurent.
OK, when I say my mind was
587
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,320
blown, but at the same time.
He looked sneaky and dirty and
588
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,720
nasty and he looked like he
would.
589
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,240
Be and her sister we already
established.
590
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,440
The person.
So no, I don't even think her,
591
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,200
her sister was in that.
Like her sister.
592
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,000
We had this conversation in the
first episode about the sister
593
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:24,160
seeming very, I don't want to
say immature, but she seen it
594
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,720
seemed like Isabel was taking
care of her, like she wasn't
595
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,800
fully mature.
And I don't know if that was
596
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,680
just personality.
I don't know if that was just
597
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,200
because she was sick and was,
you know, just kind of being
598
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,800
needy at the moment.
But I could easily see a
599
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,240
situation where Quinn could have
manipulated that, you know what
600
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,280
I'm saying?
And.
601
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,160
Yeah.
I thought about it the first
602
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,960
time I watched the episode
because Quinn, when he finally
603
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,280
drops that bombshell to Isabel,
when she says, oh, this is
604
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Lily's boy, Laurent.
And he was like, OK, all things
605
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,480
aside, you shouldn't have kept
that for me.
606
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,240
And she was like, what did my
sister know that I had a son out
607
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:10,560
there?
And she's like, what?
608
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,360
She's clearly like, what are you
talking about?
609
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,440
He was like it was a mistake
blah blah blah but you shouldn't
610
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,240
have kept it from me.
I was like how the fuck was she
611
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,800
supposed to know if she's just
not figuring out that you are
612
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,920
the father because.
It was a.
613
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,360
Mistake.
Why would she even think that?
614
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,840
Oh, this is your son?
But then when I watched it again
615
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,360
today, right before we started
recording, I said, oh, you know
616
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,840
what?
I'm going back to that scene
617
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,280
where they were trying to get
out the city and Lily got sick.
618
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,760
They had to pull over in the
car.
619
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,600
She threw up.
And you know, that was when Izzy
620
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,920
found out she was pregnant.
And she was like, why didn't you
621
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,560
tell me?
I'm sorry.
622
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,000
I thought you'd be mad if Quinn
overheard that.
623
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,920
And then not ten seconds after
that, Izzy stole the car.
624
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,720
He probably thought that Lily
told her at that moment and that
625
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:06,600
was why Izzy left him, because
she was like, are you trying to
626
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,720
leave my sister?
But you, the one who put her in
627
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,880
this, I was like, that make that
makes more sense.
628
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:17,200
Well, and then also, I'm sorry,
but you told me to ditch my
629
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,640
sister.
I'm going to choose my sister
630
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,720
then.
So he can't even even think that
631
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,360
either.
He could just think, oh, she
632
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,240
actually chose a sister, which
will make perfect sense.
633
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,040
I've been taking care of her, so
why would I ditch her?
634
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:33,840
Dude, come on now, you ain't
that great.
635
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,680
I mean, thank you for saving me
because I would have been dead
636
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,600
to where where I was.
However, you're not that great
637
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,120
that I'm going to ditch my
sister for you at the end of the
638
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,160
world, right?
We're not married.
639
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,640
We had no kids together.
And you tell it and you're not
640
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,440
even attempting to try to take
her.
641
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:59,200
You're saying Bitcher, however,
he got some good survival skills
642
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,880
'cause he survived and he owns a
club.
643
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,240
So.
Like he's a big man.
644
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,120
This is my question.
What?
645
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,400
Cause 'cause the singer is
apparently his girlfriend,
646
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,000
'cause she questioned him after
he comes to the bar, Wouldn't
647
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,600
you know if that was your man,
kid?
648
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,840
Like, wouldn't there be an
inkling?
649
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,840
I'm just saying to myself,
'cause you asked if those are
650
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,040
your parents, ain't that your
man?
651
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,400
And wouldn't he have mentioned,
oh, maybe I got a?
652
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,120
Kid I no, you know.
Well, he wouldn't have.
653
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,800
Maybe she would.
Maybe she was asking about Daryl
654
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,320
because Daryl was over there
too.
655
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,400
So maybe she was asking Daryl
and and.
656
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,840
OK.
OK.
657
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,280
Got you.
Got you.
658
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:37,880
OK.
Yeah, Yeah.
659
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,640
And then at this time of the
world, you have kids, they're
660
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,080
probably dead.
So why do I need to mention I
661
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,440
may have a kid out there in the
world?
662
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,400
Right, Yeah.
But I would say, OK, now that
663
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,800
you saying that it was.
Yeah, because I thought about, I
664
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,880
I just thought about that when
you asked that question.
665
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,440
I was like, oh, wait, Daryl was
there.
666
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,000
So maybe she was talking about
Daryl and not Quinn.
667
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,200
So, yeah, you know, sometimes we
we we come to realizations when
668
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,840
we have someone to talk things
out with.
669
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,640
Because I was confused about
that, too.
670
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,400
But that would make sense.
And then even even if that
671
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,920
wasn't, those weren't his
biological parents.
672
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,680
I mean, we've seen in the zombie
apocalypse, people have children
673
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,400
all the time that are not
biologically theirs because of
674
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,080
the circumstances, so that those
could very well have been his
675
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:28,640
parents.
But the the way that he dropped
676
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:34,800
that news to Izzy and was like,
you couldn't tell me I had a son
677
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,720
and she was just looking like.
He was.
678
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,560
She was really confused.
And then she was hurt because
679
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:47,200
not only are you telling her at
this point that you betrayed
680
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,440
her, you are also letting her
know that her sister betrayed
681
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,240
her.
Now whether it was on purpose or
682
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:54,720
not, we will never know because
Lily is dead.
683
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:59,480
We don't know the circumstances.
Again, this could have been Lily
684
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,840
could have been a willing
participant.
685
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,600
She could have been coerced.
She could have been manipulated.
686
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,560
Quinn could have just made
googly eyes at her and she
687
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,520
thought, oh, OK, you know, we
don't know how serious him and
688
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,120
Izzy were at the time.
So there could be a whole bunch
689
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,080
of things that contributed to
that.
690
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:25,600
But the fact is you have now
like completely demolished.
691
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,840
My my last memory or my last
thoughts of my sister like you
692
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,680
have put this image in my head
now that my sister however it
693
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,520
happened, betrayed me.
I would hate him so much right
694
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:46,000
now.
Because the other thing is, what
695
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,000
the fuck you gonna do with a
child in your current situation,
696
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,920
in your current circumstances?
1 You have not been around this
697
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,640
child.
So it's not like he's going to
698
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,080
be like, oh, you're my dad, I'm
going to come stay with you.
699
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,120
And she ain't having that
anyway, even if he thought that
700
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,080
he was that.
Cause Laurent has a greater
701
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,840
purpose and it ain't being in
the nightclub with his.
702
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:14,720
Daddy yet to take over.
With the spark.
703
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,560
This all be yours.
Yes, you going to inherit the
704
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,120
nightclub.
No.
705
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,120
Laurent.
Has here babies.
706
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:31,440
His great, but going back to
Laurent, so again, they're
707
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,080
really pushing this whole thing
about Laurent being the savior,
708
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:43,680
being humanity's great hope.
And I just find it like, there
709
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:49,760
are certain things that you can
kind of explain away in a way
710
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,840
that makes sense.
Like the whole thing with the
711
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,280
lady who lost her husband that,
you know, they said that she
712
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,080
lost her husband a few days ago.
She couldn't be consoled.
713
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,880
She wouldn't eat like nothing.
She wasn't allowing people to
714
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,600
comfort her.
And then Laurent just kind of
715
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,080
notices her, goes upstairs to
her, and immediately he's able
716
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,320
to comfort her.
And you can see her kind of come
717
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,600
out of that shell that can
easily be explained as empathy,
718
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,840
compassion, just him having a
way to connect to people.
719
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,960
The other thing, when Izzy and
Daryl are having that argument
720
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,000
and Lorac comes up to them and
he's like, you both, you did
721
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,360
this.
I hate you both.
722
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,400
And we're like, at first I'm
like, did he overhear this
723
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,840
conversation?
No, it was because Codron and
724
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,760
his people were coming in to
attack.
725
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,400
So I was like, did he sit?
That was, I thought.
726
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,680
I thought it was 'cause he heard
them.
727
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,200
He heard him say that old boy
was his dad.
728
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,160
I don't think that's that's what
it was.
729
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,720
I think it was because, because
literally after he said that,
730
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,520
Codron and his soldiers burst in
the door with guns blazing.
731
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,520
Wait, wait.
But if you see, that's the
732
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,440
thing.
Because like with Laurent's
733
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,440
character, it could be either
one of those things.
734
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,400
I think the perception that
they're trying to give us
735
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,560
because he's supposed to be the
savior and all this other stuff
736
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,920
is that he has a way of knowing
these types of things.
737
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,480
But then when you, like you said
the conversation, he could have
738
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,040
overheard this, that
conversation.
739
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,160
I personally don't think they
were being loud enough for him
740
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,080
to hear it.
But it's just kind of one of
741
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,880
those things where it's like,
OK, which one is it?
742
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Did he hear the conversation or
did he know that Codrama was
743
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:52,040
showing up?
Or maybe I was going to say he
744
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,880
could have seen it, but he was
in the bed.
745
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,440
And honestly, I don't think
Daryl and Isabel would have had
746
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,440
that conversation so close to
Laurent's bed, especially if
747
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,720
Daryl was trying to sneak off
before Laurent even knew he was
748
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:11,600
gone.
I just so that's what also what
749
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,320
made me think that it he did
hear the conversation because
750
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,880
it's like you trying to sneak
off while I'm not paying
751
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,880
attention, so to speak.
So because basically pitching
752
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,760
me, you know, I'm mad and I'm
gonna run out the window, right?
753
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,680
He needed a woman at that point.
But yeah, I heard.
754
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,760
I heard your voice when he, when
he, when he disappeared.
755
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,920
I said this boy is worse than
Carl.
756
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:40,600
You know what I you know I said
it.
757
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,560
I said now he need his damn ass
whooped.
758
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,080
Why did you climb out a damn
window if I care about you being
759
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,200
mad?
Maybe mad in that bed.
760
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,040
Right.
You need to stay where people
761
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,320
can protect you because
obviously you need protecting.
762
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:59,320
This is not the first time.
Because father, Father John
763
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,040
Paul, eat your ass up.
But this is the same dude who
764
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:08,200
came and shot up the Abbey, so
obviously he might.
765
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,520
Even though we know he's
following Daryl, Laurent don't
766
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,360
necessarily know that.
But no, he, he, he know that
767
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,720
when they was at the Abbey, old
boy was trying to take him talk
768
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:21,040
about are we going to make him a
soldier?
769
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,240
Right, that's what I'm saying.
He, as far as he knows, Kadron
770
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:29,640
could be coming after him.
So I'm gonna need you to stay
771
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,880
with the people who can try to
protect you.
772
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,960
I mean, granted, at this point,
after we see what happens, like
773
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:41,280
he takes off, Daryl takes off,
him and Codron have this big
774
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:47,520
fight, which, OK, Daryl, I need
you to stop leaving people alive
775
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,560
'cause you, if you were back
home, you would have killed him
776
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,640
without thinking twice.
Yeah, no.
777
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,680
Hesitation, Yeah.
This man literally came across
778
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,560
the country to find you, and you
know he was looking for you
779
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,360
because when they burst through
the door, what did they say?
780
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:09,320
Where is the American?
You know he's looking for you.
781
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,600
So why would you sit there and
just choke this man out?
782
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,280
I know you got a little more
strength than that, Daryl.
783
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,840
You.
Need to get this motherfucker.
784
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,640
No, he had on the bulky coat and
old Boy had that coat on with
785
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,880
the collar, with with the little
fur collar.
786
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,400
And so trying to strangle him,
he was like, and then the people
787
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,040
started shooting at him.
So he was like, I don't want to
788
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,120
get shot, right.
If he had killed him, First off,
789
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,560
they wouldn't have even gotten
that far.
790
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Or if you can't kill him by
strangling him.
791
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,560
OK.
You got on thick, bulky clothes.
792
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,200
He got on thick, bulky clothes.
OK, I got it.
793
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,120
Where's your fucking knife?
Daryl?
794
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:49,520
Stab this dude in the head.
You've done it plenty of times.
795
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,800
I've seen it.
Why are you?
796
00:46:52,800 --> 00:47:03,680
Continuing to leave this to just
out of reach, it was like, do
797
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,240
you?
See the look on my face?
798
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:10,320
We've been talking about Daryl
and his non lethal decision
799
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,040
since this show started.
Hell, he said baby in the head
800
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:21,000
with two lines like and then and
then look, how do you this, this
801
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,720
is this is a real question.
How do you drop the knife to
802
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:25,640
have the nunchuck holder thing
in it?
803
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,720
How did you hold the knife?
You cause in order for somebody
804
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:31,680
knocked that out your hand, your
hand gotta be like this.
805
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,400
And we know Daryl Hannah ain't
never splayed out like that.
806
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,800
Daryl is.
Always.
807
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,440
Like this he always fisting.
Wait, that's not nasty.
808
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,480
She always has this fist ball.
Yeah, OK, alright.
809
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,680
He always has his fist balled
up, so if you have a knife with
810
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,040
the fist, the thingies the
finger holes.
811
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,680
Right.
Brass knuckles How?
812
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,000
How?
But how is that on your hands?
813
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,600
In that case you need your ass
whooped because who taught you
814
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,600
how to fight?
I told you since he came to
815
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,800
France he act like he forgot
killing walkers one on.
816
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,840
Again, and I'll tell you, when
you're on vacation, common sense
817
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,960
goes out the window.
Vacation conversation, it's like
818
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,880
when you are out of your
element, common sense goes out
819
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,120
the window.
I was.
820
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,320
Going to say, 'cause this ain't
no.
821
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,800
Vacation 'cause we said that at
the very first show when you
822
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,120
walked into an empty ass room
without tapping on the door to
823
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,640
see if fucking walkers was in
there.
824
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,080
So now you got to ask Burnt like
you've been in this apocalypse
825
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,520
for 20 years.
At this, yes, but you also have
826
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,640
to realize that who has really
dare fought in a while?
827
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,760
It's not the point of fighting.
It is though.
828
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,400
How?
Wait, yes it is.
829
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,400
You lose that edge.
What was the last person he
830
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,040
really truly fight fought that
was strong and had combat
831
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:05,680
training?
I don't know yet.
832
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,440
Oh, I really got to think about
it, 'cause I'm trying to think
833
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,920
like in the Commonwealth, like,
yeah, he fought Lance and he
834
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,840
fought a couple of people, but
he fought people.
835
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,680
On the boat.
Oh, did we get there yet?
836
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Yeah, we talked about how you
got to print.
837
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:22,360
Yeah.
So the people on the boat.
838
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,600
He had to because Madam Janae
said in that last episode, she
839
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,280
what did she say?
It took us 3, three years to get
840
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:37,200
this ship, you know, in tip top
shape, seaworthy and it's all
841
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,440
like done because of one
American.
842
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,200
So you know, he had to fight to
get off.
843
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,040
He did, but again I said combat
ready.
844
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,400
I didn't say all those soldiers
was combat ready.
845
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,480
Well, we don't.
OK, we, well, we, we haven't
846
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,360
got.
Like a tough fight, Like a
847
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,200
tough, like the governor, Like a
tough fight.
848
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,040
Beta, Right.
That's what I'm talking about
849
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,560
that right there where he could
have picked him up and threw him
850
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,840
over a bridge, but he fought
him.
851
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,240
So he, so he's a little, he's a
little, he's a little, you know,
852
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,520
that's OK 'cause normally he's
an arrowing.
853
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,840
It's only that's not a word, but
you know what I'm saying.
854
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,840
We got to say it's been.
OK, he need to find a damn bow
855
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,520
and arrow, See.
That's that's his over.
856
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,040
The stick.
That's that's his.
857
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,720
That that's his thing.
But I'm saying so.
858
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:34,040
But I'm sorry, you can like, OK,
we don't know the timeline from
859
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,760
the Commonwealth, the end of the
main show to this show,
860
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,160
obviously, probably a couple of
years maybe.
861
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,440
Maybe you are not going to tell
me that those couple of years
862
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,040
when he's been out on the road,
when he's been trying to find
863
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,680
Rick and Michelle, that he
hasn't come across other people
864
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,640
that he hasn't had to fight.
But also, you can't tell me that
865
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,280
those couple of years, even if
he is a little rusty, is going
866
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,840
to erase the 1015 years of
fighting and fighting and knock
867
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,640
down drag down fighting that he
had to do.
868
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:11,040
OK, so I'm gonna help you with
that.
869
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:16,320
I'm gonna help you with that.
Even even I will bring that
870
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,360
point up.
Even over the years, you will
871
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,200
get rusty.
And even though he fought
872
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,680
people, there wasn't of quality.
They were CD level.
873
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,040
OK.
My video game people, you
874
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,280
understand, they just they they
not even close to the boss.
875
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,880
OK, Darrell has had to fight
bosses.
876
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,760
And when he.
Fought bosses.
877
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,960
There was a threat to his lives,
his friends lives.
878
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,480
So it was an extra adrenaline
rush to that fighting the boss.
879
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,680
OK, so now it's been some time.
He find people who who eaten
880
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000
rats and turtles and pigeon
birds.
881
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,560
I mean, they, they not work.
They, they, they can't.
882
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:01,480
I mean, he got them and he had
his bow and arrow, you know what
883
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,600
I'm saying?
And he has had assistance.
884
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,840
OK, So now he come into another
country, he's a little thrown
885
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,200
off.
I won't say vacation.
886
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,160
You know, common sense, some of
the skills that you have
887
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,840
learned.
He's not a Navy SEAL, friends,
888
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,400
He's not a Navy SEAL.
He's he hasn't learned to do
889
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,160
this in all atmospheres and
environments.
890
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,040
So he gets over here, he's
fighting someone who is the
891
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:31,160
leader, who has fought others to
show that he is the boss.
892
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,200
They'll been on vacation.
Too many margaritas.
893
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,320
You look sluggish.
You.
894
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Know what?
OK, so you're not fighting the
895
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,080
same way you would have fought
beta, because beta that was that
896
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,480
really was like life or death.
He like, oh, I can take him.
897
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,960
We just was like rolling on the
rules.
898
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,680
I mean this you don't.
Think this fight with this
899
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,480
officer is life or death?
For him, I don't think he feels
900
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,240
the threat like he felt the
threat with like maybe if I'm
901
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:01,920
thinking.
This.
902
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,840
Man probably could kill.
Me.
903
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:09,680
No, when he was fighting Beta,
he could actually kill me.
904
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:12,440
This dude right here, he's like,
I probably got him.
905
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,080
I got him.
He's not really that much of A
906
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,840
threat.
But guess what?
907
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:21,840
You are a little sluggish.
Here's the thing when that.
908
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:27,600
You'll be ready next time.
Dude, when that same dude was
909
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:33,920
shooting up nuns in the Abbey
and you had access to a gun, you
910
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,720
should have killed his ass then.
Correct, but common sense.
911
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,480
But I keep.
But you helping my, you are
912
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,840
helping my reasons, you are
helping my 'cause that he is off
913
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,480
his game because of the travel.
I need him, OK?
914
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,840
He was going to shoot.
Him.
915
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,000
But remember the little old lady
nun came and knocked the gun
916
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,480
away.
He was about to shoot him.
917
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,120
OK, but after the well, I was
going to say after the little
918
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,640
old lady nun died.
You should have.
919
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:09,280
Killed him.
At that point he had him in his
920
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,080
side.
He was like and then the little
921
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,800
lady was like.
OK, all this to say, Darrell
922
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,640
Dixon, I need you to get back on
your shit.
923
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,760
Right, that's basically it.
He has to.
924
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,640
But now he is prepared for the
next fight like I.
925
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:25,480
Don't know, 'cause he just fell
through that roof.
926
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,160
I don't know what he prepared.
For, I said he'll be prepared.
927
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,120
For the next fight, like oh this
is a person who is equal.
928
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,600
Of skills or higher, he punched
the boy in the little club for
929
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,480
trying to Juke him.
Remember he?
930
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:46,880
Yeah, but that ain't no.
That's not no, that's not
931
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,280
comparable.
That would not fighting the boss
932
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:57,960
boss level fights.
No, no, cause ultimately this is
933
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:05,360
that would be his, his boss
level because the, the head
934
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,480
lady, I mean, she's gonna fight
like Madam Janay.
935
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:10,520
No, she's not gonna fight like
that.
936
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,720
So that's that.
That's the, that's the boss
937
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,560
right there.
But I would say this.
938
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:18,880
It like AA wasn't, I mean Alpha
would kill you, you know you you
939
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,560
may want to be scared of her
even.
940
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,080
Though she looked like Madam
Janay looked like she would
941
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,680
Whoops, Mass She.
Was.
942
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,560
But Darrell can clearly take
her.
943
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,040
He would be able to take her
'cause she hadn't.
944
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,640
Thought.
She hadn't fought in.
945
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:36,680
Years but we we don't know this
but she's we don't she's we but
946
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,960
we don't know because we haven't
we don't know that much about
947
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,760
her, but we.
Don't, but I'm saying she has it
948
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,440
currently when you are the
president leader, whatever she
949
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,360
is going to.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
950
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,080
She has her.
Men to Do you think she been
951
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,240
fighting?
Who's she been fighting?
952
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,000
She she had to fight.
This is a female who is in
953
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:02,600
charge of a very male dominated.
I got you on that.
954
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,200
But she already proved her
point, and she got her.
955
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,640
Loyal men, she proved her.
Point I said, but it's been some
956
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,000
years, but it's been some years.
I'm going to tell you because
957
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:17,200
once you no, but once you do it,
if you do it correctly, you
958
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,640
don't have to keep doing it.
If you point it, that means you
959
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,440
did not set yourself up to
success.
960
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,960
So now you're saying that she
has not set herself up to
961
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,040
success.
No, no, no.
962
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,040
I believe that she had 'cause I
think they scared of her.
963
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,760
See, all they have to do is if
she could just get them to be
964
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,120
scared of her and she did the
stuff she needed to do.
965
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:38,680
She don't have to.
Fight, OK, but on that same
966
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,600
token, 'cause I don't want to
mess with her, 'cause she don't
967
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,440
turn me into an experiment.
Well, that too.
968
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,120
But here's the thing, you get
people to follow you.
969
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,320
You get people to be loyal.
But after a few years, that
970
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,960
starts dying down.
Think about.
971
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,320
Not if you do not listen.
Let me finish my thoughts.
972
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,240
You don't have to fight.
Think about the way Negan was
973
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:02,520
with the Saviors, because he was
right there, top of the chain.
974
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,640
And then you start getting some
dissenters.
975
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,560
You got to every once in awhile
go back in and prove that you
976
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,840
haven't lost your edge.
So I.
977
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,800
Agree with that.
I'm not going to sit here and be
978
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,920
like, Oh no, she hasn't fought
in a few years.
979
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,520
I I totally I totally agree with
you, but her intelligence and
980
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,880
how she running things she don't
need to fight.
981
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,800
That's why I want you to get the
shit she's doing is way worse
982
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,320
than fighting you be like I
don't I'd rather fight her than
983
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,960
to deal with the stuff that
she's going to put upon me.
984
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,480
That girl is peeling toenails
off of people while they still
985
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,840
live, living with a Walker,
eating their brains and pouring
986
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,560
acid on them all at the same
time.
987
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,120
That's what she do with and you
see that?
988
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,520
You'd be like.
When did she do?
989
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,000
That.
Might not want.
990
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:53,760
To wrestle her.
Yeah.
991
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,680
You see what I'm saying?
You get, you get scared, then
992
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,040
that the then the men tell these
stories.
993
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,800
Those stories become worse than
they really were.
994
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,280
And then you'll be like, I'm
going to follow her.
995
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,720
And then all she got to do is to
come out there with a gun and
996
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,560
shoot somebody in the head.
That bastard was late to work.
997
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:15,840
And you'd be like, oh shit.
You're not loyal because you
998
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,960
didn't show up to work on time.
Right, you eat the chocolate
999
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,600
cupcake.
I told you, don't eat those
1000
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:26,520
cupcakes.
She cut my tongue out and fed it
1001
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,680
to a Walker in front of me and
fed it to a Walker in front of
1002
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,800
me.
I don't know, but I will say
1003
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:39,800
this if if Daryl ends up coming
face to face with that woman,
1004
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,320
because obviously, you know,
this one lone American is he's
1005
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,480
he's like really fucking some
shit up over there.
1006
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,240
He needs to be scared because
she going to be the one to tie
1007
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:56,760
him up and get Laurent.
Get she she will find the the
1008
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,840
rabbit that was his friend when
he was in fifth grade.
1009
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,760
This is why this is again, This
is why he needs to go ahead and
1010
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,480
kill Kadron, because that's the
person going back to report to
1011
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,200
her.
You tell her I'm going to find
1012
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,800
him, I'm going to bring him to
you and I won't stop.
1013
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,560
I won't.
Quit and she literally she would
1014
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,520
be the type to have him tied up
and watch the people that he has
1015
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:25,200
currently met, everyone he has
encountered tortured,
1016
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,280
experimenting on why they still
alive.
1017
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,280
I don't.
I rather you just kill me.
1018
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,480
But no, that's not how she
moves.
1019
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,400
You can tell.
But you know my real quick this
1020
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:41,080
the real question how they find
him so quickly.
1021
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:46,080
Like not even.
Because of the map.
1022
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,080
Cell phones, Yeah.
No, no, no, no, 'cause he goes
1023
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,600
to the nightclub and he was
like, we know he was just here,
1024
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,320
but you just here.
Oh.
1025
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,600
People, people are talking just
what, what, what was it that
1026
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,200
Falou said?
Information is a commodity.
1027
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,240
They probably pay some people.
They, the people that sitting
1028
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,720
out their garden, he was
probably like, oh, OK, so I need
1029
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:15,360
to know if there's an American
here somebody, He says so.
1030
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,920
Just showing up that that's
yeah, if it take a pigeon two
1031
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,680
months to get a message.
How?
1032
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,440
Well, one, Cordrone has
vehicles, he has cars and jeeps.
1033
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,480
So he's not flying, he's not
travelling by horse drawn cart.
1034
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,880
But two, we also have to
remember that before they
1035
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,560
stopped at Algier, they stopped
at that orphanage.
1036
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:51,080
So it's possible that Cordrone,
especially if he was looking at
1037
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,320
the map and the map literally
had the red flag pinpointed at
1038
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,880
Paris.
If you're familiar with Paris at
1039
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,720
all and you've heard these
rumors about this organization,
1040
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,520
you know, this rebel
organization or whatever, you're
1041
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:12,160
kind of going to know where to
look for certain things.
1042
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,760
If he's like, oh, they're in
Paris.
1043
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:18,880
Oh, they probably are here.
And again, and him being at the
1044
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,360
Abbey, they left all kinds of
information behind.
1045
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,000
So it's possible he knew exactly
where they were going.
1046
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,800
And if you again, if you are
familiar with the way things
1047
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,200
work, if you know this is an
American, he's trying to get
1048
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,920
home, there's only one place
only American.
1049
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,440
Well, I mean, we, we only met
one other American and he was
1050
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,080
the one that was in the city
keeping so.
1051
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,880
And and I'm having, I do have a
little problems with that, but
1052
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,800
that side note, there got to be
a few of us 'cause we are.
1053
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,720
But I'm thinking.
But you know what, probably not.
1054
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,680
Cause think about the fact that
there's hardly any people
1055
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:05,720
walking around like we see so.
You know, I get it because we
1056
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,880
will be, you know, touring and,
you know, on vacation.
1057
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,360
And 20 years from now, I mean 20
years from the start, them
1058
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,760
Americans probably found a way
to go home or they're like, you
1059
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,480
know what I'm.
Home, home.
1060
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:23,080
They're dead, huh?
Where we they're dead If I am
1061
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,000
over there on vacation living in
the hotel like I don't know, a a
1062
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,080
friend's a farm to go to you.
Know, I mean, think about, think
1063
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:37,160
about, think about Victor's
husband and and his folks in
1064
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:38,480
fear of The Walking Dead, they
would.
1065
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,400
My hotel, because they would.
Yeah, they did good and they
1066
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,960
couldn't get back home.
Maybe the amount of living their
1067
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,560
good life in a hotel near the
beach because the walkers can't
1068
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,720
swim.
Well, you know what this is in
1069
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,480
France.
These these French walkers are
1070
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,160
are.
Are way different.
1071
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,920
We may not have survived.
They might have some breast
1072
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,640
stroking walking over there so
we don't.
1073
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,400
Right.
And if you needed a hairpiece,
1074
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:04,920
you wouldn't be able to find you
know what?
1075
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,040
I thought we were going to get
through a whole episode and not
1076
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:16,440
talk about a hairpiece, but so.
Everybody here should be looking
1077
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,360
rough right now.
I'm.
1078
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:22,360
Just it's possible that he was
able to get there that quickly.
1079
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:27,760
And again, if you are, even
before he started working for
1080
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:34,480
Madam Janay, this was a man
whose job it was to not
1081
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,520
necessarily keep the piece, but
he was the one that was going
1082
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,560
finding these kids to recruit
for soldiers.
1083
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,120
He was the one training these
people.
1084
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,400
So he a person in his type of
position, they have to have
1085
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,600
their ear on the ground.
They have to know where people
1086
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,760
would go for certain things.
And even when he walks into the
1087
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,800
club, Quinn is like Madam Janae
and I have an agreement.
1088
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,360
My club is off limits.
So obviously Madam Janae knows
1089
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,680
about the club.
Why wouldn't control, but maybe
1090
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,640
she was the one who told him.
OK, hey, why don't you go check
1091
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,400
this place out?
Because they do shady stuff
1092
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,600
there.
And if you're looking for a way
1093
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,480
to get around that's kind of off
the books or out of the way,
1094
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,520
that might be the first place
you go.
1095
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:27,120
I don't think they know that he
looking to get off the island.
1096
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,480
The island get out of France,
they.
1097
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,080
Stole him to bring him the
France, so obviously he don't
1098
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:38,120
want to go back home, no.
No, no, I'm saying I don't think
1099
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:44,120
that they, my thought is they're
not thinking that he's, you
1100
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,400
know, doing a list and search
for a radio so he can leave.
1101
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,200
Because to me, my thought would
be #1 you know, you in, in in
1102
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:56,360
some seat somewhere, you know,
you came off this boat.
1103
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:02,320
My thought would be, I want to
get him back because he escaped
1104
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:08,800
more than anything, not knowing
that he's trying to get back
1105
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,880
home, so to speak.
My thought would be I lost my
1106
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,680
prisoner, let me get him back.
Well, it might not even be that
1107
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,040
they're thinking that he's
trying to get home, that he
1108
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,360
knows that they're looking for
him.
1109
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,200
He knows somebody is looking for
him.
1110
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,840
Why would I want to stay?
I'm going to try to find the
1111
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:29,200
first thing, smoking, flying,
Slytherin, whatever out of the
1112
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,960
city.
I'm trying to get the fuck away.
1113
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,520
True.
So, so yeah, I mean, but either
1114
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:41,160
way it goes, even if he's trying
to search for information like,
1115
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,400
oh, these people kidnapped me, I
need to know who these people
1116
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,080
are and what they're doing.
Even if he's looking for that
1117
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:51,640
kind of information, Quinn's
place might be the, it might be
1118
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:55,640
the place to go get it.
So, you know, I can't imagine
1119
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,920
that there's a lot of those
types of establishments, you
1120
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:03,960
know, around.
So it's not like he has a whole
1121
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,120
bunch of places to choose from.
You might literally hit it in
1122
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,120
Paris.
You might literally have that
1123
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,400
one place.
And I, I have the feeling if
1124
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,880
there was something similar in
Paris, Quinn seems the type of
1125
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:22,840
person who would knock out that
competition real quick because
1126
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,120
he wants to make sure that he's
the only source of information,
1127
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,960
that he's the only source for
goods, commodities, whatever
1128
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,920
might need to be traded.
He wants to make sure that he is
1129
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,960
the person in charge, the person
in demand, the person that
1130
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,840
you're going to go to, so that
he can kind of make those kinds
1131
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,280
of relationships like the one he
has with Madam Janae, where he's
1132
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:50,120
like, OK, my club is off limits.
What does he have to do in order
1133
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,080
for his club to be off limits?
Is is he giving her a share of
1134
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,400
the cut?
I mean, because again, it's not
1135
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,480
like money is a currency that we
we really need.
1136
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,280
But this man has drugs.
This man has alcohol.
1137
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,960
I'll.
Tell him what else he has that
1138
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,040
she might need.
He might have an he might have
1139
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,680
his ear to the ground and knows
where to get weapons.
1140
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,960
And she's like, oh, OK, I need
some guns.
1141
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,960
OK, I'll give you the guns.
But you turn your you turn your
1142
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,960
back on everything else we do in
this club.
1143
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,080
You can't really build that kind
of relationship with someone as
1144
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:31,440
important as Madam Janae.
If there are competitors around,
1145
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,840
like, oh, OK, I know Quinn told
you he can get you this, but I
1146
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,360
can get you this and this.
Now Quinn is going to cut that
1147
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,360
out.
So it it's very possible he is
1148
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,240
the only place they can go to.
And that's probably why they
1149
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,400
found him so quick.
She was like, yeah, go check
1150
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,320
here.
Because even if he hasn't seen
1151
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:57,080
the American, Quinn probably has
enough eyes around the city to
1152
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,840
tell him that something is up.
Oh, we got people in the city
1153
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,400
that we've never seen before
that aren't that aren't
1154
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,200
regulars.
Again, they don't have a lot of
1155
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,440
people walking around Friends.
I've, we've said this since
1156
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,240
episode 1.
So if someone different comes
1157
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,520
into your periphery, you're
going to be looking at them like
1158
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:16,680
who the fuck are you and why the
fuck?
1159
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,880
Are you that's?
True, and Quinn would definitely
1160
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:25,520
be a prize on all of that stuff.
OK, pause one second.
1161
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,800
I see.
Because it just got to the part
1162
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,000
where they was on the little
bridge talking and Laurent
1163
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,120
can't.
He heard them.
1164
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,240
He came up behind them and then
that's when he was like, I hate
1165
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,200
you both.
So yeah, he did OK.
1166
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,000
He heard them and then he said I
hate you both and ran out the
1167
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,840
window.
They were standing like right
1168
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:49,160
open, right in the open.
OK, so so again heard.
1169
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:52,560
Their conversation.
Let's go back to Daryl Dixon and
1170
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,840
common sense.
Since when are you having these
1171
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,520
kinds of open conversation where
everybody and their Mama can
1172
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,160
hear you?
It's not like y'all have rooms
1173
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,120
with doors in this.
Place you just talking to your
1174
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,600
regular normal speaking voice
right this spring.
1175
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,560
You ain't nothing you like.
Hey, this little boy and your
1176
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:18,359
ass, now he even heard you and
he's like I hate you both.
1177
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,920
So now he knows.
So if that's the case, now he
1178
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,160
knows the truth.
He knows you're his auntie.
1179
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:29,720
He knows the Quintus is dead.
And if that's the case, he knows
1180
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,800
that you are his auntie that has
lived with him all of these
1181
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,840
years, never said anything.
Not a word.
1182
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:44,680
Never treated him as family like
you treated him as, as the nun
1183
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:51,279
of the Abbey, as you know, a a
caregiver, a protector, not not
1184
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:55,200
like family.
So he has even more reason now
1185
01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:01,520
to be like, I can't stand you
because I've been wondering who
1186
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,640
I am all of this time.
And you could have told me all
1187
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:15,080
of this time, but instead you've
been feeding into this or you've
1188
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:20,560
been believing this whole thing
about me being the savior, me
1189
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,680
saving humanity, whatever this
it is.
1190
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,320
It's kind of like a it's like
the Dumbledore effect from Harry
1191
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,800
Potter.
It's you're raising, it's like
1192
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,320
you're raising the pig to
slaughter.
1193
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,560
I'm not saying that's going to
happen, but when you have
1194
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:41,960
someone like Laurent, let's just
put it out there, the the
1195
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:47,160
thoughts or the assumption that
he could be immune to this,
1196
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,720
whatever it is that makes them
change because of the fact that
1197
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:55,280
his mom was already turned when
she gave birth to him and it
1198
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,240
didn't affect him in a negative
way.
1199
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:07,160
In order for that to be used to
help humanity, chances are
1200
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,480
there's going to be a medical
procedure involved.
1201
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,280
Chances are it's going to be a
medical procedure that he may
1202
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:18,520
not be able to survive.
You know what I'm saying?
1203
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:26,320
So it's like, Yep, that adds
different layers to that whole
1204
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:31,200
situation.
And just again, how is the
1205
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,880
should have handled it from from
the get go.
1206
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,000
And again, I really kind of feel
like.
1207
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,200
She.
Kept her distance because at
1208
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,400
some point she realizes she's
going to have to let go of him
1209
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,280
and if she is emotionally
attached to him she may not have
1210
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,520
the strength to do that.
I and I I really think that's
1211
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,840
the only reason why she has not
told him the truth before now.
1212
01:11:57,480 --> 01:12:00,600
And if if that's the case,
that's very selfish of her.
1213
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:06,800
Absolutely, and is also at the
same time, it's very unselfish
1214
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:11,160
of her because she's putting
humanity's needs first.
1215
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:17,200
But I'm, I, I don't know, I, I
guess I'm, I'm the type if it's
1216
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,560
a choice between my child and
the I'm sorry, humanity.
1217
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,280
Look at it as her putting
humanity first.
1218
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,160
Looks like Carol said.
If, if that's truly what it is,
1219
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,080
let this little boy know what he
he's not like.
1220
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:33,360
He ain't no little baby kid.
He's old enough to comprehend
1221
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,320
and understand.
So if you feel like this is what
1222
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,320
this child is, tell him that.
I agree with Darrell on that.
1223
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,240
Aspect.
Yeah, let him make a decision.
1224
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,440
Because at the rate y'all going
trying to be all hush hush and
1225
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:51,360
secret about everything that's
going on, you could tell with
1226
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,720
this child once he find out
something, oh Lord, the world is
1227
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,800
over and he got to run away.
But if you go ahead and just
1228
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,720
tell him what is going on,
because like he said, that's a
1229
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,920
lot of pressure to put on one
person, you know?
1230
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,040
Like they're literally treating
him like a Messiah when he walks
1231
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,400
into the nest.
Yeah, and then he's a little ass
1232
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,400
kid.
So it's like I'm living up to an
1233
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,600
expectation that all these
people have of me.
1234
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,800
And I'm not even sure what that
level of expectation that they
1235
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,720
have is.
I just know that some kind of
1236
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,600
way they think I'm very, very
special.
1237
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,320
I'm a very special kid.
What else?
1238
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:32,880
I'm special to what?
Because even when they was
1239
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,600
walking and.
Like in the.
1240
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,640
Beginning and La, Ron told said
said to Darryl.
1241
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,000
You won't die in Paris.
What?
1242
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:46,000
Like, right, that's the, that's
the other thing I was like, so
1243
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,680
is this something he's just
saying or is this something that
1244
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,760
he feels?
Or is this because again, I, I
1245
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:56,520
feel like they're kind of sort
of trying to introduce like a
1246
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,760
supernatural element with
Laurent.
1247
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:03,040
But of course there are also
things that are happening
1248
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,360
simultaneously that you can use
to explain that.
1249
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,520
But if if this is a child that
is seeing things or has
1250
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,200
premonitions, I mean, again, if
you think back to the early,
1251
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:21,360
early days of The Walking Dead,
when we would see the dead
1252
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:26,040
people start to transition into
the walkers.
1253
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,280
Remember, they would show us
like flashes of what was
1254
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,680
happening in their brain and
they would have like these
1255
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:36,840
different little flashes of
zombies or people and just
1256
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,240
different little things.
I'm wondering if the what kind
1257
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,160
of gets the same kind of flashes
because of the fact that his
1258
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:47,400
mother was already turned?
Like does he have any of those
1259
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,400
special, I was going to say
special effects.
1260
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,680
But just the some parts of his
brain that is.
1261
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,320
Yeah, yeah.
Because of all the stuff that's
1262
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,160
happening to your brain when you
be while you're transitioning,
1263
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,560
it could have, you know, it
really could have like so.
1264
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,000
Yeah, that's that's the kind of
thing I'm, I'm kind of wondering
1265
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,800
if they're trying to show us
with this, like with this
1266
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,960
character, like we don't see a
lot of I mean, we almost see
1267
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,840
none of the supernatural
elements and this show, aside
1268
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,120
from people getting up from, you
know, waking up from the dead
1269
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:29,280
and and walking again.
But that last little episode of
1270
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,800
Tales that we still haven't
talked about where there was
1271
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:37,760
like a ghost, a ghostly figure
that Michelle refuses to discuss
1272
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,520
with us, like what she don't
want to talk about.
1273
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:44,160
But aside from that, we really
haven't seen anything of the
1274
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:48,000
supernatural.
So it's kind of like we're only
1275
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,880
three episodes into this show.
We have three more episodes to
1276
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:53,160
go.
So I don't know what else
1277
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,320
they'll show us about Laurent or
what else they'll tell us about
1278
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,720
his background.
But it's kind of like, I wonder,
1279
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:04,720
is he seeing things?
Maybe not like, oh, I can
1280
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,480
predict the future or whatever,
but there might be certain
1281
01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:10,640
things that he knows or that he
feels or has a sixth sense
1282
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,480
about.
I don't think that that's
1283
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:17,640
anything, you know, out of the,
I don't think that's anything
1284
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:23,160
extreme because even in everyday
life, you have people who are so
1285
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:28,840
empathetic and and so sensitive
that they can sense those type
1286
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,160
of things or they can kind of
see those type of things.
1287
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,160
So I'm not saying it, it's
something that can't be.
1288
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,960
It would just be interesting if
that's where they're going with
1289
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,240
this character.
But again, I feel like
1290
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,440
everything that they're showing
us where it could have an
1291
01:16:44,440 --> 01:16:47,360
unearthly explanation, they're
also backing it up with an
1292
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,400
actual explanation.
Like, oh, yeah, I know it seems
1293
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:54,960
like this, but it's really this.
So I I don't know, it'll be
1294
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,280
interesting.
But the way that he said that
1295
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:02,320
was kind of it was eerie.
Don't worry, miss, don't worry,
1296
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,760
Daryl, You are not going to die
in front France.
1297
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,880
You, you got a main line to
someone that that told you.
1298
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:17,600
So he, he seemed, he seemed very
sure about that.
1299
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:21,400
So I don't know, that was kind
of, that was kind of
1300
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:26,080
interesting.
But I guess as we get into the
1301
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,720
other episodes, we'll see more
about his character.
1302
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:37,120
And I don't know what the deal
really is with him, 'cause I,
1303
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,920
I'm, I'm not saying he's special
in that sense, but something is
1304
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:49,320
definitely off about that child.
I know one could fix it a.
1305
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:55,120
Whooping.
I don't know.
1306
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,640
I don't know.
I don't know if that would help
1307
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:05,680
at this point.
Just sorry, like just to go back
1308
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,440
like it would solve so many of
your problems if you just tell
1309
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:13,840
this boy what's going on.
I think we talked about this on
1310
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,000
a previous panel about it.
It's not that he needs a
1311
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,360
whooping, it's just that he's
been sheltered and not aware.
1312
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,800
And the things that she's doing,
you're not helping the situation
1313
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,800
because, yeah, he doesn't know
how to really express his
1314
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,760
emotions.
So he's finding out a lot of
1315
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,560
information and he's acting like
a kid, but you can't act like a
1316
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:39,120
kid during this time.
But he has to be trained not to
1317
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,240
act like a kid during this time,
so it's hard.
1318
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,520
'Cause he's been the only kid
for so long.
1319
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:50,920
Yeah, but now they don't even it
because I feel like if Judith
1320
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,320
was the only kid, OK, let's go
back.
1321
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,120
Carl was the only kid, but they
taught him how to survive.
1322
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,440
He made mistakes.
He made.
1323
01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:02,560
He did with Carl because he
made.
1324
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,960
Mistakes.
Carl had 10 years, 12 years even
1325
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,960
in the.
Beginning even in the beginning
1326
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,200
he he was making some errors,
but they were teaching him as
1327
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,520
they went.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1328
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:17,800
And that's what I'm saying
before.
1329
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:22,640
The within the year, within the
year of everything happening, he
1330
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,600
was learning that his.
Little.
1331
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,720
Boy, but he was still he was
still doing some dumb.
1332
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,360
And that's fine, but he was
learning this friend.
1333
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:31,400
It's been how many years?
How many?
1334
01:19:31,480 --> 01:19:36,120
How old are we saying he is now?
I think he's like 12/13, 12:13
1335
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,440
nothing.
But he had.
1336
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:44,080
You can't compare the two.
Laurent was born literally at
1337
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,680
the start of this no?
No, no, I understand that you
1338
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,080
could not take him outside the
gates and teach him.
1339
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,640
That's what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about you still
1340
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,280
haven't been trained him.
You didn't.
1341
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,840
You didn't train them then you
all the nuns are trained killing
1342
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,680
nuns.
Yeah, but no, I would want one.
1343
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,280
Why would they?
Got him reading to a dead
1344
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,000
person.
You see what I'm saying?
1345
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,520
Like, And then you don't tell
him.
1346
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,800
You don't even tell him truths.
And I and, and, but you know
1347
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:19,160
what, if you think about it,
Izzy, given the lifestyle she
1348
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:24,080
was leading before she came to
the nunnery and then her having
1349
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:29,000
to lead a different type, but
almost similar lifestyle, like
1350
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,720
her lifestyle before the nunnery
was probably was full of lies
1351
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,640
and secrets.
So that's something that she
1352
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,240
understands.
That's something she knows.
1353
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,800
How did I get that?
And you can still lie to him in
1354
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,560
a different way to make him feel
like he knows something.
1355
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,120
But you still can train him like
if something happens to you guys
1356
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,960
because because here's the
thing.
1357
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:54,600
If you are thinking that this is
a miracle child like he's.
1358
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,520
Protecting himself.
Their their whole thing is we're
1359
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,880
keeping him in the gates.
We are going to be the ones to
1360
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,960
protect him.
I mean, like you said, all the
1361
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,440
knives and everything.
They knew how to fight.
1362
01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:09,760
They knew how to shoot.
So he couldn't practice with
1363
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,160
them.
They they probably.
1364
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,600
You, you, you can see where I'm
going with this.
1365
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,360
You because.
They're living in a country that
1366
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,760
is already creating child
soldiers.
1367
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,720
Their mindset is going to be
we're going to keep him as far.
1368
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,000
So.
So your opposite thing is if
1369
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:30,120
something happens to us, let's
just say the common cold takes
1370
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,400
all these adults out in this
building, you have now left a
1371
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,400
child who can't defend himself.
And I get what you're saying,
1372
01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:39,040
but.
I'm I'm not asking.
1373
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:42,960
You to make him super soldier.
I understand that I'm not asking
1374
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,120
you to make him super soldier,
but he has to be enough to
1375
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:51,520
protect himself and I just a
little bit and I agree with you,
1376
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:57,160
but I'm thinking I'm trying to
get into Isabel's mindset and
1377
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,320
well.
First of all, Isabel makes dumb
1378
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,480
choices so we know what her
mindset is.
1379
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,280
But she thinks that she's
protecting.
1380
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:10,880
The most?
Important thing in the world.
1381
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:15,360
Yeah, 'cause I mean, she has,
she has made dumb choice, yeah.
1382
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,320
Yeah.
So she she's just living in the
1383
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,200
she's still living in the denial
stage of all this, to be honest
1384
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,440
with you, she really is.
Because if he is going to be
1385
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:32,200
something special, we going to
make sure, OK, I'm going back to
1386
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:37,800
the Terminator may not be right,
but she knew her son was
1387
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:41,440
supposed to lead them.
So she trained herself fiercely,
1388
01:22:41,480 --> 01:22:45,520
but trained him to not
necessarily be like her, but to
1389
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:50,680
give away, steal cars, get
money, like be able to survive
1390
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,200
if something happened to her,
and to know the clues of the
1391
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,920
what to stay away from and who
to go to.
1392
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,040
Yeah, they could have just
simple things, simple things
1393
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,880
like we're playing baseball.
But really, you're kind of
1394
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,280
showing him how to do some
karate.
1395
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,800
I mean, you could have dressed
it up in a different.
1396
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,480
Way I mean, I agree I I
definitely agree, but I just.
1397
01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:15,160
Cause the nuns went out in one
day.
1398
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,040
The nuns went out in one day.
All.
1399
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,880
Of them.
Yeah, I just don't think that's
1400
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:27,520
where her mindset was.
I I think I think she probably
1401
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:31,560
thought she would have more time
and she would let him be a child
1402
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,400
first because like Daryl said,
this is a huge burden to put on
1403
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,600
a child.
I don't think she was expecting
1404
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:44,080
for could drone to show up at
the Abbey and and do what he
1405
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,480
did.
I don't think you know, she
1406
01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:47,280
wasn't expecting Darryl to show
up.
1407
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,720
She wasn't They they lived a
peaceful life for 12 years.
1408
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,880
Nobody ever came right.
So where you gonna wait till he
1409
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,960
was 30 when you're dying to say,
oh, let me show you how to kill
1410
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,680
a Walker?
No, she probably would have
1411
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,240
waited until he was like 18-6 or
well 16 because I think in
1412
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:07,280
France legally I think 16 is
where the so she probably you
1413
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,000
think.
I don't think she would have
1414
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,960
waited 16.
They would have just been living
1415
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,680
there.
He'd be like, let me go off.
1416
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,640
And she's like, no, you're
special.
1417
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,840
No, I don't think so, because
eventually he's going to have to
1418
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,560
go do whatever he's supposed to
be doing for humanity.
1419
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:25,320
He's going to become the
Messiah, whatever that entails.
1420
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:29,160
So I, I really think she was
just trying to protect his
1421
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,040
childhood for as long as she
could.
1422
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,360
And again, that's not something
you can really do in a world.
1423
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,080
In the situation that you're in.
Yeah.
1424
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,240
But that's why I said I don't
know.
1425
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,600
I just think she was in denial
and she just didn't know what to
1426
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,200
do.
I don't know.
1427
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,000
And guess what?
All the other nuns just went
1428
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,920
with her.
Yeah, but how her back?
1429
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,480
They were talking about her.
But what makes her the the the
1430
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:58,200
the the beacon of light to give
all the direction?
1431
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,600
What made her the?
Because that was his aunt.
1432
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,600
Because that's his aunt.
Yeah, she's the aunt.
1433
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,200
So they were like, we can't say
nothing.
1434
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,720
Yeah, like it's, it's not like,
well, I mean.
1435
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,040
They could have said something.
They could have, and technically
1436
01:25:13,480 --> 01:25:15,600
they probably could have kept
the child and they could have
1437
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,880
kicked her out.
But I'm sorry cause 'cause
1438
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,040
reading the Bible to the dead
priest, what life lesson have we
1439
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:26,400
learned from that?
What's the lesson in that?
1440
01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:29,120
Please let me know.
He was reading to his friendly.
1441
01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:33,160
Oh my gosh, but.
Now that you outside them gates,
1442
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,880
what what what you going to do
with that skill talk to walk of
1443
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,720
the death?
What what you going to?
1444
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:40,840
Do I mean I got?
Nothing.
1445
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,880
Like I said, I agree he's
special.
1446
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,400
Like his specialness is going to
kill a Walker.
1447
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,520
I I agree wholeheartedly with
Michelle.
1448
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,160
Like I said, I was just trying
to look at it from Izzy's point
1449
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,160
of view and why they.
But that's why I said what?
1450
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,200
They needed to do.
Right.
1451
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,000
And that's why I said he didn't
need a a a spanking.
1452
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:03,480
He just needed.
And training.
1453
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:10,600
And I.
I mean not even that like how to
1454
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,120
hide?
From a walk or something?
1455
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,480
Help him, help him help.
Yeah, because.
1456
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:16,680
Even when they were trying to
hide him in the attic from the
1457
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,040
people with the guns, his ass
was still trying to get out.
1458
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:22,240
I know.
I know does.
1459
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:30,040
If I tell you to stay in this
fucking room, why is you fucking
1460
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,560
with the door knob?
Right, because when he used to
1461
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:34,840
when they used to stay there,
yeah.
1462
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,640
And don't let nobody in.
Don't open the door.
1463
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,680
But again, that.
Is hard.
1464
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,360
I come back to you.
Part of that is due to what
1465
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,760
Michelle said.
They they didn't train him.
1466
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,160
So this one, this one didn't.
Want to listen though?
1467
01:26:50,440 --> 01:26:51,920
He has.
No impulse control.
1468
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,120
He probably has no impulse
control.
1469
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,960
He probably has never been told
knowing his life as far as like,
1470
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,480
yeah, he'd.
Be so naive that you don't sense
1471
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,360
danger.
Danger if you if you've been
1472
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,240
living up behind I don't I.
Don't give a damn.
1473
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,720
I don't care if you've been
living behind closed doors, you
1474
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,440
know, if you hear Powell and see
somebody fall, oh, that's that's
1475
01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:21,120
not safe for me.
I want to stay far away from
1476
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,920
that as I can.
I know, I know.
1477
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:28,480
And if you like, if you say, oh,
something bad coming, stay in
1478
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:31,640
this room.
Maybe he thought that was how he
1479
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,920
was supposed to be the savior.
Maybe he was like, oh, I'm
1480
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,280
supposed to go say these people.
I'm, I'm just, I'm, I'm just
1481
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:42,280
playing devil's advocate.
Sorry by you coming out you have
1482
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:46,680
caused a ruckus.
Because now they know a child is
1483
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:51,520
here and they're like, oh, wait.
We need him for war now because
1484
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,040
you don't want to sit your ass
down in the damn closet.
1485
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:01,120
But at the same time, if they
had killed all the nuns, he
1486
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,240
would have just been stuck in
that closet.
1487
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,120
No, he wouldn't.
No, he wouldn't.
1488
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,960
He got out as bad as he is.
He climbed to the window or
1489
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,200
something.
He'd have got out.
1490
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,800
He would not have said that.
He would have been free.
1491
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,680
No, I'm pulling the Michelle.
I'm trying to explain stuff, no.
1492
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,040
You got it.
I I mean, come on, you got to be
1493
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,160
even a 2 year old.
You got a baby running through
1494
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:28,480
the house.
They see them stairs, they're
1495
01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:30,880
going to be like, oh, wait a
minute, they don't look right.
1496
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,480
No, but they fall down first
though.
1497
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,680
But I'm saying but they gonna
look at it and be like I'm a
1498
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,840
try.
No, not him.
1499
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:41,840
He's just running full fledge
for the stairs.
1500
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,040
Only you just don't.
Because he never had.
1501
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,200
It's so sad we had this concept
because he never had the falling
1502
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,520
down the stairs.
Cause the kids, you fall out the
1503
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,400
bed, you realize, don't jump on
the bed.
1504
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,200
Yeah.
They hadn't let him do that yet.
1505
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:59,120
Yeah, they have emotionally
stunted this human being.
1506
01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:03,920
Yes, they exactly how to listen,
listen.
1507
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:10,040
Obviously, obviously they didn't
because if stay in this closet,
1508
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:16,520
keep the door locked, don't come
out until I come get you no and
1509
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,160
you start fumbling with the lock
so you can get obviously they
1510
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,160
didn't teach him to listen or if
they taught him the lesson did
1511
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,040
not take.
Because he never had to, he
1512
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,440
never experienced like danger.
So he's.
1513
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:28,080
Like they're playing.
I was.
1514
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:30,480
Saying they're playing a game
with me.
1515
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:33,920
They're playing a game.
They would come out in 10
1516
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,280
minutes for my birthday cake,
No.
1517
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,720
No, no.
If you are reading to a man
1518
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,880
through a door and he's growling
and trying to get at you, why
1519
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,760
you ain't getting close.
If you don't know danger this
1520
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,000
Oh, you just go to the door and
read to him.
1521
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:51,280
Let me whisper in your ear.
Read to no You know what danger
1522
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,880
looks like if you get too close
to this man?
1523
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,760
He gonna eat your ass, but he.
Got a little bit of common
1524
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,160
sense?
Yeah, like, come on.
1525
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,320
Yeah, don't get close.
To the wall, but not enough
1526
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,400
common sense to sit your ass
down in this.
1527
01:30:02,440 --> 01:30:04,280
No, because there was no other
danger.
1528
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,520
They were playing the game.
I didn't go speak.
1529
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:08,520
No.
You know what?
1530
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:09,880
We're going to get off this
child.
1531
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:15,680
We go get off this child.
He wasn't, he wasn't raised the
1532
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:19,160
way he needed to be raised.
Like you said, Michelle, he
1533
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:20,760
should.
He really should have been
1534
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:24,240
raised similar to the way Judith
was raised.
1535
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:28,160
This world is all Judith has
known as well as she literally
1536
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:33,440
had a sword put in her hand at 4
even though it was a toy sword
1537
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:35,840
and even though her and Mama
Michonne was sitting there play
1538
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:41,680
fighting, she still had the
upbringing to grow up in this
1539
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,600
world and that was Rick's.
I mean, that was very much
1540
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,720
Rick's doing when he had the
conversation with Michonne and
1541
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,920
told Michonne about Shane and
about I had to accept that she
1542
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:56,880
wasn't, that she was his in
order for her to be mine, in
1543
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,960
order for me to be able to
protect her, in order for me to
1544
01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:02,840
be able to teach her the things
that she needs to survive in
1545
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,360
this world.
Rick had that mindset.
1546
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,600
He wasn't thinking, oh, she's
going to be the little girl that
1547
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,000
saves humanity or whatever.
He's thinking I need to teach
1548
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,680
her to survive in this world.
And when he disappeared,
1549
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:21,880
Michonne carried that.
But in no, I did not lie to they
1550
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,560
damn kids.
Well, that too.
1551
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,840
They lied to a name.
Omit and leave out.
1552
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,080
No, they were very honest.
Yeah, they were very honest with
1553
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:32,120
them.
Yeah.
1554
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,880
So because they really wanted
them to be prepared to survive
1555
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,160
anything.
Right.
1556
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:44,080
And even if you waited till he
was 1816 to teach him at that
1557
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,560
point it would have been, it
still would have been hard.
1558
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,920
And then he will still be, he
will be pissed off too.
1559
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:54,680
You know what I'm saying?
Like you didn't prepare me for
1560
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:58,600
this and you could have told,
you could have told me.
1561
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,040
I could have, you know, made my
decision.
1562
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,240
Cause Laurent might be like.
Me, yeah, 'cause it honestly, to
1563
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,680
be honest with you, he don't
have to really know that that's
1564
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,200
his aunt.
He didn't need to know that.
1565
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,200
He didn't.
He didn't really need to know.
1566
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,640
He need to know who his mom was.
And to be honest, she doesn't
1567
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,760
necessarily know who the daddy
is.
1568
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:22,320
You really don't.
We need, we need Adna test, but
1569
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,400
you don't.
So you can just tell him about
1570
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,040
his mom, you know, and that that
you're special.
1571
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,200
We don't know how special.
What makes you special.
1572
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,360
I just feel like you're special
because you were able to survive
1573
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,360
that.
That means you're a survivor.
1574
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:40,160
You could have been like that.
You're a survivor, and maybe you
1575
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:43,600
as a survivor can help the rest
of us survive and lead us to a a
1576
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,160
new world.
She could have spun it like
1577
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,320
that.
Look at here, Destiny's Child.
1578
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,920
They ain't no survivors.
They can't.
1579
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,000
He can't even survive in the
closet.
1580
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,440
Oh my God, I'm.
Just saying what what she could,
1581
01:32:57,440 --> 01:32:59,720
what she could have done, but
that's not what she did.
1582
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:05,680
And now you have someone who is
unpredictable in a situation.
1583
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:08,280
You need them to be predictable.
You need him to be able to
1584
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,080
listen.
You need for him to not be lost
1585
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:13,800
and have a little bit of wit
running.
1586
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,440
Off, But how do you not even
know that running off is unsafe?
1587
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:26,120
Because he.
OK, I I will say this, if I see
1588
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:31,600
20 guys coming in the door with
machine guns and starting to
1589
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,680
shoot people, I probably would
run to.
1590
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:39,680
That part I get.
He ran off before that.
1591
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:42,920
He ran off and said I hate you
before that.
1592
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:45,920
So he ran off before the people
even came in.
1593
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,960
But see that again?
And that's the thing, no?
1594
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:52,680
No, Stop making no.
No, no, no, no, I'm not making
1595
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,520
excuse, but I what I was going
to say and see, that's the thing
1596
01:33:55,520 --> 01:34:01,320
that kind of made me wonder
because he said you did this, I
1597
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:05,360
hate you both, which I took as
you were the ones who let them
1598
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:09,560
here because before they went to
the Demi Monde.
1599
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,720
So John probably wouldn't would
have never found where they
1600
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,480
were.
He found where they were because
1601
01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:18,640
of.
Quinn but but he left.
1602
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,200
The little boy left before the
people came in.
1603
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,360
He got them with They was on the
bridge talking.
1604
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,920
I know talking.
Then he said I hate you and he
1605
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,120
left and was going down.
The thing I know.
1606
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:34,120
But you're forgetting the first
part of that sentence, he said.
1607
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:41,080
You did this mean, which is why
I said meaning you let these
1608
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:44,360
people to our door.
You are putting these people in
1609
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:45,640
danger, He.
Didn't say that.
1610
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,120
First, yes, yes he did.
He said you did this.
1611
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,920
I hate you both.
Go back and watch it.
1612
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:54,800
He said you did this.
I hate you both.
1613
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,880
That's why I was like, oh, he
knew that they were coming.
1614
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:02,760
And again, if he was already, if
he was up and walking around, he
1615
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,840
may have seen them through the
windows and and whatever.
1616
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:10,280
But if he wasn't, if he sensed
it, then that's a whole other
1617
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:14,240
conversation about what Laurent
can or can't do.
1618
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,880
But yeah, he says you did this.
I hate you both.
1619
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:26,160
Which in my mind means you let
these people to the to this door
1620
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,400
and now people are going to die
because of it.
1621
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:33,120
Because you see towards the end
of the episode when Isabel is
1622
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:37,280
walking through calling
Laurent's name, she's literally
1623
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:43,840
stepping over dead bodies.
So I feel like whether he saw
1624
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,680
them coming, whether he sensed
it, whatever, he knew that
1625
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,920
danger was coming.
And he blames Laurent.
1626
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,800
I mean, he blames Izzy and Daryl
for it.
1627
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:58,120
So I mean, if he knew they were
coming, I I, yeah, I would have
1628
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,120
got on too.
Like, yeah, let me get out of
1629
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:04,360
here before the shooting starts,
because once the shooting
1630
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,480
starts, you can't control where
those bullets go.
1631
01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:07,840
That's.
True.
1632
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,040
But let's see, I'm trying to
think.
1633
01:36:12,440 --> 01:36:16,400
We've talked about the dynamics
with Izzy and Quinn.
1634
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,080
We talked about the glorious
nightclub again.
1635
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:24,160
If if a Walker apoc if a, if a
zombie apocalypse happens,
1636
01:36:24,440 --> 01:36:27,560
please make sure I'm somewhere
where the nightlife or the
1637
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:33,920
entertainment will keep going.
Because yeah, no, the governor,
1638
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,640
he he had, you know, he was
trying to do his little
1639
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,920
entertainment thing.
But watching the walkers fight
1640
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:46,160
gladiatorial style, that's not
no, give me the drag queen, give
1641
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:49,480
me the singer, give me the
dancers on the lyrics.
1642
01:36:49,480 --> 01:36:51,280
And yeah, give me all that
stuff.
1643
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:53,800
Let me let me have fun with.
That.
1644
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,560
Anything else we need to discuss
about this episode?
1645
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:02,960
I think we kind of got into our
feelings about Laurent in the
1646
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:04,760
way he was raised.
But I mean.
1647
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:08,680
But that's what makes this such
a great yeah, yeah.
1648
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:12,560
Because you know, and
realistically it, it's just a
1649
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,480
hard decision to make either way
of what you need to do during
1650
01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:18,360
the time you needed to make and
what you thought was the right
1651
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,040
decision.
And let me do your best.
1652
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,720
And let me just say this, I talk
a lot of shit about whooping
1653
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,800
kids, but I need whoop my kids,
right?
1654
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,080
So yeah.
And so, you know, we.
1655
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:30,760
I can't even follow it.
I could be lied to.
1656
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:32,080
Yeah.
I don't know who your mom and
1657
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,680
daddy is.
We just found you on the curve.
1658
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,880
I mean.
But see, that don't make sense
1659
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,600
because now all of a sudden you
telling him stuff about his
1660
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:42,120
Mama.
Oh, your Mama went to high
1661
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:45,720
school here.
And yeah, here's a picture of
1662
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,800
your mom because you know, Laron
had to see him.
1663
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:49,640
Think how did you get a picture
of my Mama?
1664
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:51,680
Yeah, because I went back to my
apartment.
1665
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:56,240
Right, so and I just had to stop
by your mama's apartment and get
1666
01:37:56,240 --> 01:38:00,080
this like I can understand she
might have told obviously if she
1667
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,720
said your Mama went to to high
school down the street,
1668
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,840
obviously Mama was from in the
area and she knew Mama.
1669
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:10,200
But yeah, for you all of a
sudden start sharing this stuff
1670
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:11,600
now.
It's kind of like.
1671
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,960
And I think Darryl is kind of
weaving his way into her, like,
1672
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,560
you know, he needs to know who
he is and stuff.
1673
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:23,160
So but my my only before we end,
where's the drugs?
1674
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:28,560
They probably left them at at
Quinn's place because remember
1675
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,960
that they stormed out in a huff.
They should have took those.
1676
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,200
Those are good exchanges for
things.
1677
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:37,920
She would have had to go back
down into that, into that little
1678
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:41,200
lounge area and Quinn would have
followed them because, you know,
1679
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:43,160
once all this stuff came out
about Quinn.
1680
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:44,600
No.
Did she take the drugs from the
1681
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,240
I missed that.
Did she take it from the
1682
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,960
fireplace, the whole container?
No, she didn't take the whole
1683
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:51,240
container.
OK, that's why I was, I was
1684
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:55,160
saying, did she take that?
I think she probably put some of
1685
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,480
that back because you don't want
to give away.
1686
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:02,160
All of your, your, your stuff.
Oh, OK, I'll just make sure
1687
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:06,120
because I'm like that's some you
know, that's pure that's from
1688
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:10,360
before, right, Right.
So she probably that's some good
1689
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:13,880
just in exchange for guns.
Go back later.
1690
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:18,480
OK, Yeah, I missed that.
OK, Yeah, no, I think she that
1691
01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:19,920
was it.
She took some of it.
1692
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,000
So.
But she can make good choices
1693
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,680
about that, right?
You know what?
1694
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,800
And on that note, that is it for
our show.
1695
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:31,200
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1696
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:34,600
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1697
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:36,720
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1698
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:38,840
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1699
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,680
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1700
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,440
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1701
01:39:44,440 --> 01:39:46,400
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1702
01:40:16,230 --> 01:40:16,470
Music.