The Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon S1E5 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #309

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Casey and we are discussing
Daryl Dixon Season 1, Episode 5.

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This is the penultimate Episode
4 Season 1, and unfortunately,

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we won't hear Michelle's
thoughts because she's been the

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one this time, traipsing all
over the place.

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But no, seriously, she just got
back.

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She and Anthony just got back
from Cruise.

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They were celebrating Anthony's
50th birthday a little bit

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early.
So we're going to let her rest,

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and I'm sure she's going to have
plenty to say when we get ready

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to discuss the season finale.
So let's talk about this episode

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because this is the episode
where we finally, finally find

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out how the hell Daryl got to
France.

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And let me tell you, I think one
of the things we have been

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talking about with Daryl is how
he keeps trying to help other

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people instead of taking his ass
home.

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And that's exactly how he got in
this position.

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Exactly.
Which, OK, I'm not going to say

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that I blame him.
I'm not going to say he was

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wrong.
He was trying to help somebody

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who was clearly out of their
league, not really able to fend

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for themselves well on their
own.

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But there were you in that
temper?

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I guess, look, I guess in a way
that could be the reason why

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he's not doing so much over in
France, 'cause he's like, look,

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last time I lost my temper I
ended up on a boat.

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Or the last time I lost my
temper, I got one of my best

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friends killed.
How about there?

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You know what?
We're not going to talk about

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that.
That was so far.

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That was how long ago?
It shows a pattern.

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It shows a pattern.
When?

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We're not gonna, does it not.
We're not gonna.

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Do does it show a pattern?
Yes it does.

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Darrell need to mind his self
and and for that matter, because

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my whole thought was we've known
since season.

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When did Alexandria get
introduced Season 3?

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That was four, I think 4.
OK, so if at least since season

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4 of the original Walking Dead
series, we've known that Darrell

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has a a liking to people, he may
not always be like inviting.

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Yeah, he may not be very
inviting, but Aaron saw

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something in him that says you
would be good with people.

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So in knowing this about
yourself and you see that these

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older men are heckling this
young boy and then now they're

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trying to make him a little
little Gopher.

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Go get our little wood.
Chop wood for us and we'll let

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you come out.
You attempted to help him by

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showing him how to chop the
wood, but you wouldn't take it.

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That next step to your eye.
Come under my wing low key.

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Well, you know where I kind of
sort of understand that mindset

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because Daryl's whole purpose at
that point was I'm I'm just

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trying to get my fuel and go
back home.

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And if you if you pick up, I
don't want to say it like this,

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but it kind of if you pick up a
stray on the road, it makes it

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that much harder to get rid of
them to in order to do what you

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need to do.
You know what I'm saying?

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I think Darrell was not looking
for any external attachment.

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Seems like, look, I'm just
trying to get home.

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And if you and think about it,
you know, if he took this boy

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under his wing, like, OK, yes,
I'm going to let you help.

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First of all, that boy could
have gotten Darrell killed

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because on that first day when
he was talking about, you know,

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when they were sending them out
to go find the walkers and stuff

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and dude was like, yeah, you
know, I had some walkers turned

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around and pick up something and
they got away.

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Maybe, you know, maybe I can tag
along with you and help you.

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No, because you're you would be
the person to get Daryl killed

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on some stupid shit because
Daryl would be too busy trying

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to save you.
So no one that's not going to

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work 2 if Daryl takes this dude
under his wing.

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This girl has already said I got
a girlfriend whose father

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doesn't let her out.
I told her I would take her

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away.
So now you got dude, he's going

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to want he's going to want to go
get his girlfriend and then

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girlfriends Pops might be like,
hold up, y'all ain't going

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anywhere.
And then you know, Daryl and

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Pop's going no, that's too much.
Get him in the game and let him

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go home.
No, he could have helped him to

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a point.
He could have been like, well,

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because all the boy was trying
to do was get fuel.

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That's all he wanted was some
fuel.

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I don't live that far.
I just need gas for the car that

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I'm, you know, for us to get far
away.

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He could have helped him to the
point for that boy to get his

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gas.
And look, I hope you get the

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gas.
But after that, you know I'm

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done.
That boy was trying to get gas

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to go to California.
We already know they wouldn't

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have made it to California.
We already come on, we know he

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wouldn't have made this out
point, but you would have got

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enough gas to get away from the
situation that you were in.

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Right.
So you you would have left where

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you worked into a better
situation hopefully.

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But Darrell, in my opinion there
should have just helped the boy

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and then and then the the punch
means because you feel bad

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because you didn't help him and
look what the fuck happened.

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That's where that punch came
from.

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He mad at himself.
So don't get mad at them 'cause

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you you saw the the signs before
when they was being shitty to

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this little man.
'Cause they were acting like the

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Chryslers they were.
Asking my child not to intervene

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but now why you getting pissed
off punching somebody in the

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face when you ain't do what you
were supposed to do to try to

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help?
So don't.

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Don't be mad now.
Well, never guys.

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And we see how it worked out for
him.

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Yeah, end up on a fucking boat.
Ends up on a boat where they're

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obviously doing some Walker
experimentation.

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So and and again, because we've
seen a little bit of it in

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earlier episodes, we know that
that boat was controlled by

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Madam Janay.
So we know that she's already

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doing experiments on walkers
there in France, and we see a

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little bit more of that in this
episode.

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So yeah, it's just kind of like
Daryl finds ways to get into

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situations that you just like.
How?

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But again, the whole premise of
them having Darrell in France,

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everybody wondered how in the
world did this happen?

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How in the world did this
happen?

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The way that they did explain
it, it makes perfect sense,

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especially if you know, if you
have someone coming from France

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looking for people who pretty
much he's looking for people who

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aren't going to be missed, You
know what I'm saying?

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You know, if you have people who
are coming all the way from

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France to get these people and
you could tell that French guy

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was already shady the way that
he was kind of looking like OK,

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they have like these certain
restrictions, like they can't be

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shorter than such and such.
We don't take children and

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block.
So it's kind of like at first I

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thought, why are y'all trying to
take live people?

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And then you realize, no, they
want walkers that fit these, you

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know, that fit these
requirements.

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And it's kind of like what y'all
doing and why y'all coming all

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the way to the States because
y'all are looking for people who

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aren't going to be missed.
And obviously we've seen a

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friend ain't too many people.
That's what I was going to say,

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'cause we see friends don't have
remember it was a, a, a deserted

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one.
Darrell got there.

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Like we don't even see hordes in
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We don't think we've seen that
one horde so.

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Maybe they took all they can for
the experiment 'cause if that's

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the you, you go, you go.
Use up with your the easiest

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first.
So that could explain why there

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is no no no walkers anywhere,
right?

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Especially especially outside.
We know they inside inside

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shops.
And shit, yeah, right.

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But especially if, I mean, Quinn
literally places a time frame on

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it in this episode when he's
talking to Izzy about the

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jewelry he got her.
He said.

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I didn't think I'd have to wait
12 years to give it to you.

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So it's been 12 years since he
last saw her, which means

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Laurent is only 11 and some
change.

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But we'll come back to that.
We'll come back to that.

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But we do have at least a time
frame.

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So, yeah, in 12 years, they
could have gone all over the

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countryside and picked up
walkers or even picked up people

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to experiment on because they
could have used live people to

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say, hey, let's see what it is
that causes it.

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And then try to do whatever they
needed to do with the walkers to

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try to cure or whatever it is
they try to do, make weapons,

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whatever.
But they're coming to the States

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because, OK, we're going to take
people who aren't going to be

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missed.
And you got people in this type

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of environment where, yeah,
they're they're requiring people

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to go do certain things for
them.

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And if they mess up, it's like,
OK, you get one chance.

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You mess up, you don't follow
our rules.

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That's it for you.
I don't banish them.

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Y'all sent him on a.
Fucking boat.

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I didn't take it that way.
I didn't take it that they were

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looking OK.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what

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you were saying because I wasn't
taking it as I thought.

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We like when he met Darrell on
the road and he gave him the

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rules for their commute, their,
you know, settlement.

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I wasn't taking it as when we
kick you out, we put you on a

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boat.
I thought you just have to leave

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from where we are.
Because my thought was when he

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was putting Darrell out, if I
was driving and took my bike,

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took my, you know, my ball, my
crossbow, All right, I got to

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go.
No, I think if if Darrell had

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done what he what he was
supposed to do, you know,

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collect the walkers in order to
earn the gas, got the gas and

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went on, he would have been
fine.

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But it was because he punched
that guy.

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And the number one rule is no
fighting.

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Right, but and that just said he
that he said that gets you out

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of here.
I didn't think out of here meant

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on a boat to France.
I thought out of here, me, you

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know, I just gotta kick you out
of my community.

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Well, you know what?
I mean that that was my

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perception of it, I thought.
So too, but apparently that

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wasn't the case 'cause.
When he put him on the bottom

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like.
Right now how you you gonna send

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him home in this?
Like how much gas do y'all like

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First of all, making all this
gas.

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That is a full ship.
That's not like the little thing

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that Rick was on.
That's a full ship going from

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Maine to France.
Well, I mean, it didn't make it

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to France, but that's because,
you know.

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Yeah.
But.

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That was the intention of it,
yes.

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And obviously that wasn't the
first time that they had come

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there because they had a report,
they had a routine.

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But we also know that the Croat
figured out how to make gas.

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That's true.
So he did.

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Say that he couldn't be the only
person.

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Right, he ain't the only one who
figured out how to make gas

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'cause there's nothing even in
the ones that live.

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Yeah.
Every everybody's car had gas,

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so they figured out a way.
Like, even if the Crowat wasn't

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the one to tell P, you know he
ain't the only smart person left

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in the apocalypse.
Right.

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We hope not.
Anyway, 'cause who?

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But at least, you know, people
are figuring out like you say we

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12 years into the apocalypse,
people are figuring out 'cause I

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was saying the same thing when
when brought Isabel breakfast

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and she, he was like, oh, you
know, she can bake you up

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whatever you want.
And I'm like, yeah, it's been 12

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years.
People know how to, you know,

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make the necessities that we
need in order to survive.

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So if you're on a on a uptick of
figuring out what we lost and

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now how to regain and redo so
that we are no longer in the

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place that we were when we
initially started.

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Right.
But also, we got to think about

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Quinn.
You know, we talked about this,

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and I think it was either
episode 3 or Episode 4.

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Quinn seems like the type of
person who knows how to get

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things and who knows where to
find things.

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And he even says it in this
episode that that's one of the

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reasons Madam Janay has formed
this partnership with him,

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because he can get things.
He mentioned to Izzy, he said

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when he was talking about the
clothes that he had brought her

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and the painting, He said I have
a warehouse full of things that

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are at your disposal.
So I believe that when

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everything went to shit, you
know, even like with the

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jewelry, he told Isabel.
He said, yeah.

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He said after you left, I could
have walked on.

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I don't remember what the street
name was, but I'm guessing it

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was kind of like the Rodeo Dr.
of Paris.

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He was like, I couldn't, you
know, people could walk in there

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and take things by the handful.
You mean to tell me Quinn

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didn't?
Because I told you he seems like

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a opportunist.
He seems like somebody who knows

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how to keep things going and how
to keep himself afloat.

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I mean, think about it, 12 years
into a zombie apocalypse, this

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man had a fully stocked
nightclub going on, performers,

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alcohol, everything.
You can't tell me that he

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probably doesn't have stuff
stashed away.

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Like I said, he probably sent
people out to forage and to get

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stuff and he uses that as
collateral and that's how he's

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been able to stay where he is.
But yeah, Quinn, just, he seems

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like the type of person who was
able to just like you know how

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some people when a zombie
apocalypse or just any type of

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doomsday type thing that we've
seen you, there's some people

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who just can't handle it, don't
know what to do.

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And then you have some people
who thrive in that kind of

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environment because they already
know how to get around certain

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rules and they know how to.
This was made for Quinn.

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Absolutely.
Because I again, like I said, he

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moved Izzy to this mansion.
First of all, the fact that

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y'all had to drug her to bring
her in there.

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Oh, you were having nightmares.
We gave you something to calm

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you down, really.
And for me it was like clearly

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cause 'cause being at the
nightclub, one would think this

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is where you, this is where you
are.

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And then to go and you in this
elaborate mansion on this

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compound with fancy beds and
fancy shit and just.

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Right.
You just wouldn't took you a

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house.
Like a laid out breakfast.

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Like how you getting this kind
of spread brunch spread 12 years

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into the zombie apocalypse, Like
what kind of food storage system

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are you using to have all this
stuff?

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And I mean, like you said, 12
years and people probably have

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figured out how to make stuff
and that sort of thing.

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I'm I'm sure he's probably got
chicken somewhere to have fresh

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eggs and everything.
But I was just like, you got the

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alcohol and the champagne and
you got jewelry here and

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everything is just so nice.
And you look, he's the one

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person who actually has decent
guards.

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Looks like 'cause you got him
all over the.

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He paid, he get him.
They treat it well.

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He treat them well.
He has to.

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That's who he act.
Treat him well, Marie.

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What I thought of her name was
Anna.

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Is.
It Marie.

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Are you sure?
Yes, it's.

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Marie.
We'll call her Marie.

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But this exercise?
I've said this in the last

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episode.
I said you are sit here and

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treat this woman like garbage
because Izzy has shown back up

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in your life and you're
expecting her to just be OK with

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this and not when she walked in
that door and she was sitting

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there waiting for him to come
out that room and she just

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dropped that glass.
I said oh you don't fucked up

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now brother.
I said she going to do something

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to you now and and I think I
think I said something about her

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going to Madam Janae and y'all
were telling me I was wrong.

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What did she do?
She went straight to Madam Janae

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told.
But she still ain't got to me

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here like you're doing all the.
Way you back.

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You still ain't got him.
You still like they should.

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I wouldn't want him at that
point because you clearly have

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chosen this chick who left you
in the dust 12 years ago over me

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and I'm supposed to what, Turn
you in and then slip?

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No, no, no, brother.
If that's the if that's the

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case, she should have did that
at the nightclub when she showed

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up.
Are you having all these

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conversations?
Because you did that then

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because I don't think she, she
didn't think that Isabel was

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going to come back.
Isabel wasn't going to come

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back.
The only reason why Izzy came

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back was because she knew that
he would be the person who could

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get Daryl and Laurent out of the
city.

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Like he could make that happen.
And that's what he did.

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She's keeping up her bargain.
But of course, Maria's like, oh,

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that's what you want, OK.
I'm about to fuck you and all

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your life up.
Like, you gonna treat me?

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You gonna throw me away for
somebody who don't even want

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you?
Ah, OK, I got you.

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I don't even want you and was
about to kill you.

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So you had this profound thought
about Abraham and redemption.

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Sir, it was 2 seconds for me and
stabbed in the jugular with the

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corner of a cabinet.
Right now, not even the corner

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of a cabinet, that was a piece
from the mirror.

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It was like the the the
decorative piece on the mirror.

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Whatever it was, she could have
slugged him in the head with

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that statue.
It she don't like you?

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But you know, I don't think.
What part of that?

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I really don't think she thought
that through very well, because

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even if she had killed him,
where would she have gone?

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How would she?
She don't even know what she is

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right now.
And and then how you going to

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get past the guards?
Exactly 'cause like I said,

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those guards seem like they
actually know what they do, but.

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Then my, my thought was because,
OK, so going back just for a hot

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second, when the I can't think
what her name is the Hostess.

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We just gonna call it a Hostess.
But I can think the lady who

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kept bringing her the food.
Oh, yes.

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The so in the initial, the
Hostess, she was the one who was

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like, Oh yeah, we gave you
something so you could sleep.

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So in my mind, I'm like, oh, you
gotta keep an eye on her.

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But then she the next day when
she brings her breakfast and she

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was like, the eggs are really
fresh.

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You wanna have eggs?
She was like, we should say your

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friend brought on something.
Tell your friend thank you.

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She's like, well, it wasn't my
friend.

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But now you're passing.
No.

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Right.
So where are you on this

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spectrum?
I think she might be one of

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those people who are like, OK,
you know what?

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I'm gonna stay.
I'm staying here and I'm being

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loyal because I'm being taken
care.

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I mean, think about it.
If you have your choice, and we

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say this when we talk about
Negan and and the Saviors and

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the Sanctuary all the time.
If you have your choice between

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being out on the road, living
off what is left of the land,

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dodging walkers right and left,
dodging dodgy people right and

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left.
Or you can be laid up in this

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mansion, nicely dressed, clean,
eating real food and all you

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have to do is serve the person
who is in charge and it's

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obvious he ain't fucking with
the help because he had Marie

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before Quinn came up.
So all I got to do is just sit

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here and wait on your hand and
foot and I ain't got to deal

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with none of that out there.
And a zombie apocalypse.

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Yes, I'll be the servant.
I'm so sorry.

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I sure will.
What do you need?

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What?
How can I be of service, Sir?

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I mean, I don't have to worry
about killing walkers.

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I don't have to worry about
catching fish and gutting them

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because I will catch a fish all
day long.

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You will not get me to gut them.
I'm with Laurent on this.

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What he say sometimes you got to
do things you don't want to do.

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No, I'll go.
I'll go be queen.

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I'll go be queen Housekeeper.
I will go clean the mansion.

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I will go do whatever I need to
do.

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I would go pass secret messages
from.

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Who?
What was probably Falou and

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what's her name?
Sophie.

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I will do all of that because I
am I.

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I will be dead, honest.
I am not made for a zombie

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apocalypse.
I am not.

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I like my creature comforts too
much.

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No, I'll go be the housekeeper.
I'll go be the housekeeper.

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Just be taken care of, huh?
But that does have limits, like,

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like Marie has, because Marie
was like, oh, you, you, you want

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her.
OK, OK.

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I'm gone.
Because what did she say in the

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last episode to him when she was
telling him she was like, when

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she's gone for good?
And he said, oh, really?

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She said sometimes.
What?

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What did she say?
Women need a reason to stay.

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And what did she say?
Some women need to, I can't

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remember.
She said something about some

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some women have reasons for
walking away and some need a

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reason to stay.
And I was like, dude, you're not

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giving this chick no reason to
stay.

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You find enough that the
ex-girlfriend you're you're like

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literally she's trying to touch
you and you're just kind of

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like, oh, don't touch me.
Don't touch me when you were

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probably all over her a few days
ago and then you want to bring

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your son that nobody knew about
in here and you want the

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girlfriend who's being currently
spurned to watch over him and

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you give her a loaded gun to
protect him.

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Like I said, if I was her at
that point, he probably would

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have been shot.
But I think what she did was so

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much better because shooting
him, killing him, that would

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have been too quick.
There would have been no like

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the satisfaction wouldn't
wouldn't be there because oh,

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you hurt me in such a horrendous
way and now you get to just like

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I'm a shoot you and you die and
that's going to be it.

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But I'm still going to be
sitting here hurting because of

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what you did.
No, let me find another way to

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wreck your life.
Hey, girl, let me tell you about

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Quinn.
When you was over here looking

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for this boy, he had the boy
upstairs.

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Or he knew where he was and he
was lying to you.

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And oh, yeah, he also made it so
the boy could get out of Paris,

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girl.
So much more satisfying.

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Did you see the look she gave
him when he walked in to that

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little dungeon and he saw her
sitting there and his brain

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cells started rubbing together
like, oh, wait a minute, you're

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the one who did you see the look
of satisfaction on her face?

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That was a one true
satisfaction.

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If now walkers are going to tell
him, tear him apart, is that

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satisfaction?
It would be for me.

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Like you like OK, I get the OK
when you pissed off your piss

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you you always pissed off to a
point you pissed off to the

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point you want this mother
fucker be because granted

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Darrell's in the pit and we know
Darrell is Darrell and Darrell

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was.
That was going down some.

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Stuff up.
I don't think Quinn has that

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level of expertise.
No, he doesn't.

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So you, by you doing this, you
have to know that you're killing

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this man.
You so mad at me you want me to

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die?
Probably so, because guess what?

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If she's been with him any
length of time before this, she

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probably knows where all the
bodies of birds.

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She knows where the whale houses
are.

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You saw she just strolled up to
the mansion and walked her ass

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on in like she had been.
Let me tell you, if this man is

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dead, she already knows.
Izzy don't want no, no part of

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this.
Guess who's in charge now?

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She is, and she probably has
Madame Julie backing her up like

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she's.
Going to nobody listening to

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her.
She's.

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So she's a plotter.
Yes, she is a plotter, but I

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don't see her being
authoritative where anybody is

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00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,880
going to be like, oh, oh.
Yeah, got to be she and Madam

449
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,480
Janae's good graces right now.
Madam Janae is probably like,

450
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,840
oh, you know what?
So I got you.

451
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,640
You you want to take control of
this?

452
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,760
Yeah.
Because now she can control

453
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,440
Marie.
Oh, this is what I need.

454
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,040
I need this.
I need that.

455
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,360
I need this champagne.
But Marie ain't going to make

456
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,920
it.
But you know what, she might

457
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,920
not.
But for right now, she is on top

458
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,520
of the world and that's all she
needs.

459
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,280
She she probably won't make it.
She probably won't make it past

460
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,600
the week.
At this point, we don't care.

461
00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:01,400
She probably don't.
I'm just saying she was a means

462
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,600
to an end for Quinn.
We don't care about anything

463
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,040
else.
Like if she survives, if she

464
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,480
takes over his empire.
I really don't care about all of

465
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,520
that because no, you, you got
him trying to sort it out of the

466
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,680
way for the moment.
So do you know what I'm, I'm not

467
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,400
mad at her.
I'm really not because it's bad

468
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,000
enough, huh?
I can't wait for her face to

469
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,400
give it off.
Oh, so why you like Quinn?

470
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,400
No, I don't like Marie's double
crossing ass.

471
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:41,960
Like except the fact that you
lost.

472
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,480
It's a zombie apocalypse.
Men look love and men are few

473
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,040
and far between.
This man has been taking care of

474
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,640
you for years and all of a
sudden you being casted aside.

475
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,240
I would be pissed too.
I would be petty Betty.

476
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,360
Yes, I absolutely would if I
think it'll be.

477
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:04,440
It would be different if it was
regular times, like not in a

478
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,600
zombie apocalypse, like if she
could just go anywhere else.

479
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,720
If she could just, oh, you, you
don't want me?

480
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,400
I'm going to go.
I'm a, I'm a find another club

481
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,560
to work at, whatever.
But Quinn, her relationship with

482
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:22,680
Quinn at this point is so much a
part of who she is because not

483
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,400
only is she the girlfriend,
she's also the entertainer at

484
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,560
the club.
She's the one that, you know,

485
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,000
it's like he's been taking care
of her because obviously she

486
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,720
ain't taking care of herself.
I mean, just what we see from

487
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:42,240
her as a character, she does not
seem like really the I don't

488
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,720
want to say she she doesn't seem
like the self-sufficient type,

489
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,160
but almost kind of like that
damsel in distress, like, OK,

490
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,200
I'm I'm going to stay with him.
And because you can't tell me

491
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,920
this is the first time that he's
treated her like he didn't want

492
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,360
to be bothered by her, right?
People like him, they get in

493
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,560
those moves off and on.
So she knows what he's like, but

494
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,080
she probably just didn't think,
OK, you know what?

495
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,920
He just going to toss me aside
for whatever.

496
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,760
And then he did.
And she's like, oh, OK, you know

497
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:22,080
what, whatever.
I mean, I'm not mad at him

498
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,640
because Quinn is trash.
He is definitely.

499
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,280
He's sitting there expecting
Izzy to want to be with him

500
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,480
again, to want to pick up where
they left off.

501
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,360
Dude, the last time I saw you,
you told me that you were the

502
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,440
father of my sister's baby and
I'm supposed to be all hot and

503
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:49,560
heavy ready to jump your No do
that at.

504
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,480
But I love you, girl.
Again, I need to know what easy

505
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,480
got going on 'cause this is 12
years down the road and he's

506
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,320
still looking at her like, do
you love me?

507
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,320
She.
Got golden in there with fan.

508
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,360
She must she.
Must.

509
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,000
But anyway, OK, so let's step
away from Quinn and easy and

510
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,680
them 'cause we got to come back
to them later on.

511
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,000
Let's talk about Daryl a little
bit.

512
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,560
So as we talked about it at the
beginning of this episode, Daryl

513
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,040
was off minding his own business
somewhere near the coast of

514
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,000
Maine.
His bike had run out of gas.

515
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,240
He comes across this guy who's
like, hey, we have ways for you

516
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,120
to get the gas, but you got to
work for it.

517
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,200
OK?
Daryl is no stranger to doing

518
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,680
that type of thing.
So he goes, he finds out what

519
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,680
they're trying to do.
They're they're gathering up

520
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,920
walkers for what reason?
They don't say Darryl really

521
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,720
doesn't care.
He's just like, OK, are you

522
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,440
going to give me my gas?
So what they do is they put a

523
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,760
limit like for the more, the
more walkers you bring in, the

524
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,880
more gas you get.
So of course you have this one

525
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,520
group of assholes.
Like I said, they were, I'll

526
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,760
call them claimers 2 point O
because that's kind of the vibe

527
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,360
they were given.
You have them come in with five

528
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,960
walkers.
Darryl comes in with like 7 or 8

529
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,840
all together.
OK.

530
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,360
Oh, and at least that answers
the question of where his damn

531
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,960
crossbow is.
It's probably still in Maine

532
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,920
because he had it in this scene.
So while he's at this place,

533
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,440
this this kid kind of like a
older, I would say, maybe late

534
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,360
teens, early 20s, very clearly
out of place, very clearly does

535
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,440
not know what he's doing.
But he's there because he's

536
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,760
trying to get gas.
He puts himself on the old, you

537
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,320
know, claimers 2 point O radar.
And of course, they start

538
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,480
bullying him and stuff.
OK, Daryl don't want nothing to

539
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,320
do with this.
Daryl just trying to get his gas

540
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,200
so he can go home.
Now, during this part, Daryl

541
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,360
gets access to a radio.
And whose voice do we hear

542
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,240
Carol?
Oh yeah.

543
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,520
So she finally makes not
necessarily an appearance in

544
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,200
this episode, but we do hear her
voice.

545
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,880
They do have a conversation.
Daryl tells her where where she

546
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,280
he is.
And he keeps asking her.

547
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,400
He's like, are you OK?
Now?

548
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,720
The conversation is interesting
because the first time he asks

549
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,120
it, she says, yeah, just take
some getting used to.

550
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,640
And he's sitting there holding
the radio like he's waiting for

551
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,400
her to elaborate.
Like, what takes getting used

552
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,680
to.
Then he says it again.

553
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,200
Are you OK?
Are you sure you're OK?

554
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,640
I'll be home in a week.
Are you OK?

555
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,400
She was like, Daryl, you don't
have to worry about me.

556
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,080
And then after pause, she's like
Daryl.

557
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,560
And you kind of hear static
starting to interrupt the the

558
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,520
signal.
And she says blank, Blank came

559
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,760
home.
Now, of course, we're all going

560
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,440
crazy because when this
originally aired, this was

561
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,400
before the ones who live had
aired.

562
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,720
So we're all like, who is she
saying came home?

563
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,160
Is she saying Michonne came
home?

564
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,000
Did Rick come home?
Did somebody else?

565
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,280
Like, we didn't know.
We actually still don't know.

566
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,440
We can only speculate because of
the fact that Michonne and Rick

567
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,160
have come back.
But I haven't had time to go

568
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,240
back right now and do this math,
especially after remembering

569
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,000
Quinn said it's been 12 years,
'cause I'm pretty sure it had

570
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,520
been longer than that for
Michonne and Rick from the time

571
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,640
they came back.
So I'm like, OK, we don't have

572
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,200
to go through, figure this out,
figure the timeline.

573
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,120
It could be Rick and Michonne.
And that's what takes getting

574
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,840
used to.
But.

575
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,360
I was Morgan.
My my thought initially when it

576
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,160
aired was Morgan.
Yeah, 'cause we know Morgan left

577
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,120
fear to go back to Alexandria.
So fine, Rick, Yeah.

578
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,640
So that was my thought that
Morgan came back because that

579
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,320
was all they really, really left
during that Morgan.

580
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,320
We knew Morgan was gone.
But even though he left, you

581
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:10,080
know, seasons before, but aside
from Rick and Michonne going,

582
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,440
you know, on their thing, Morgan
was the only other person that

583
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,760
really left that Darrell really
knew.

584
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,080
You know, we've had people come
and go, but we know Morgan was a

585
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,920
part of that community, you
know, for so long, for as much

586
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:29,320
as he did before he, you know,
we had to clear and leave.

587
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,360
Right.
So my thought has always been

588
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,880
Morgan.
Even now, even after the other

589
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,120
show went off, my thought is
still Morgan.

590
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,560
And I think the only thing that
would make me say is not Morgan

591
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:49,679
is because even though Morgan
was a part of the community, he

592
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:53,800
and Darryl never really had that
much interaction.

593
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,120
You know, Morgan's whole thing
was Rick because that was his,

594
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,520
that was his tether to the old
world because Rick was he was

595
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,280
the one that found Rick and you
know, all that stuff.

596
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,520
So it could make sense.
But I feel like it would have

597
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,560
more of an impact if it had been
Rick or Michelle, especially

598
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,520
Michelle, because Darren knew
the Michelle went out there.

599
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,360
But my thought.
But if that's the case and I'm

600
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,160
on the phone with you and I tell
you, oh, Rick came back, that I

601
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,960
wouldn't live with that.
Yeah.

602
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,800
Yeah.
How are you doing?

603
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,240
I'm great.
But guess what?

604
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,240
You.
Understand what?

605
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:36,040
Which makes me think it's
somebody important, but not as

606
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,920
important as Rick.
OK, 'cause if Rick comes home,

607
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,920
that is she know why Darrell
left, right?

608
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,800
So if Rick came home, the first
thing I'm saying, Rick is here,

609
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,160
you need to come home.
Like your search is over.

610
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,840
Come home.
Yeah.

611
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,960
Which is another reason I still
believe it's Morgan, because

612
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,960
your whole purpose for being
out, for leaving, I'm going to

613
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,280
look.
I'm going to see what clues I

614
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,000
can find.
That was your purpose.

615
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,280
Yeah, you're right.
And so if the purpose that you

616
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,240
left is like, that's the first
thing, I'm like, Oh my God.

617
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,160
Darrell, this issue, Rick's
here.

618
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,480
Come home.
Right.

619
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,760
I'm not gonna have no
conversation about how you could

620
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,200
figure out how new when you get
home.

621
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,200
I'm not gonna have these
conversations, which makes me

622
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,880
think it's somebody not as high
as Rick, Right?

623
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,960
Because if I say if, if if you
wanna phone with me and you say

624
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,880
Casey is Michelle.
I'm on my way.

625
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Like, I don't care how you
doing.

626
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,680
I don't care about none of that.
I'm on my way.

627
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,080
Oh, OK.
Say less.

628
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,440
Click.
Let me get my guess.

629
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,680
I gotta go.
You understand what I'm saying?

630
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,640
Well taken.
So it it can't be Rick, point

631
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,160
taken, can't be Rick and
Michonne 'cause that you won't

632
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,040
leave with that right going
leave with you.

633
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,720
Right.
You are so right.

634
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:56,320
I take back everything.
You just made your point right

635
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,800
there.
You already know girl, you

636
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,800
called me and be like denies
girl, you know I'm on my way.

637
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:09,680
But anyway, so then after the
after this call cuts out, of

638
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,560
course, you know they they go
back out the next morning and

639
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,920
when the other guys when
claimers 2 point O Come back,

640
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:23,960
they have the kid at the end of
their Walker chain and he is a

641
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,120
Walker.
He has been killed and there was

642
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,640
looking he's like what the fuck
happened to them?

643
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,760
OK so let me just say this.
I think Daryl dropped like 4F

644
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,880
bombs in this episode and it's
they.

645
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,640
Just get them all out the way.
Right.

646
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,040
It's just so funny to me
because, you know, they have

647
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,240
been so strict about it.
And then like in the last couple

648
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:46,440
of seasons, you would hear it
here and there.

649
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:51,360
So the fact that he dropped
multiple ones in this episode, I

650
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,400
was laughing.
But he's like what happened here

651
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,160
and the guy was like, I don't
know, we found him like that.

652
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,520
He was like he got burn marks on
his neck.

653
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:05,040
So I guess the the boys offer of
I'll do whatever y'all want if

654
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,520
y'all would help me.
I guess they were like, oh, OK,

655
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,960
you said you'll do anything.
So you're going to add to our

656
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,640
accounts and then we don't have
to give you any gas.

657
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,200
You won't have to worry about
gas.

658
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,400
So of course and and.
He was a fresh kill so he was

659
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,640
worth more.
Right.

660
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,400
So, you know, Daryl was pissed.
And Daryl is the one who punches

661
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,720
the guy, And that's what leads
to this whole thing.

662
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,840
And they go to, you know, and
we're seeing all of this in

663
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,280
flashbacks over the course of
the episode.

664
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,120
So, like, certain things, Daryl
is kind of like, thinking about

665
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,280
how he got there, and that's how
we're finding out about this.

666
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,880
But when they put him on that
boat, OK, first of all, I was

667
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,080
like, the dude who took his
jacket needs to die first.

668
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,400
The guy who took his jacket,
that's the one that needs to die

669
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,040
first because how dare you?
I'm a, I'm a pull a case.

670
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,600
And how dare you?
I'm Dick, whatever that is.

671
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,600
We don't touch that.
We don't touch the vest.

672
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:13,000
And everybody who has tried
taking that vest before has died

673
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,840
with the exception of Dwight.
And Dwight got his ass handed to

674
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,800
him very thoroughly.
Hey there.

675
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,800
In order to get that back.
And the only reason why he lived

676
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,920
is because he, you know, Sherry
helped Darrell escape from the

677
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,040
the sanctuary.
So you don't touch the jacket.

678
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:40,000
But while they're on the boat,
the guys who are capturing them,

679
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,560
they come in and they take one
of the guys out and they throw

680
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,760
him into some walkers.
And I was like, there was

681
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:53,400
sitting there looking like this
what we do, he can come here for

682
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,800
this is the look on his face.
He was like, oh shit, I need to

683
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,160
figure out how to get out here.
I need to figure out how to get

684
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:08,280
out.
But OK on the boats.

685
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,280
So they pulled Darrell out and
they are 'cause he was like he

686
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,400
was sick of some shit faking
faking so they would come and

687
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,400
open his door.
Oldest show in the book went

688
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,040
oldest trick in the book and
they fell for it.

689
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,480
So as they pull him up, they
just like, well, you sick, we

690
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,840
just gonna throw you into these
walkers.

691
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,320
So they open the Walker cage and
there was like who going in

692
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,040
there?
I think you will go before I go.

693
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:40,440
So he knocked one of them in the
other one who had his jacket on.

694
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,240
You ain't going nowhere with
this, Jackie.

695
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:45,760
He choked him out and probably
snatched jacket on, jacket on,

696
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,880
put it back on and was like.
Now I'm back, now I can go

697
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,200
through and call some mayhem on
this God damn shit.

698
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,880
He let the other dude who ended
up on boat with him out and now

699
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:03,040
y'all trying to run and now.
And now we realize on this one

700
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,680
how much different the variants
are because this mother fucker

701
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,320
came up the stairs with no arms
like.

702
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,360
Girl, when I when I saw that
thing come up the stairs like

703
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,560
that and also the way that
they're just kind of tearing at

704
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,720
like.
He didn't even bite him, he's

705
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:26,000
just like ripping his eyes.
Out and I think it's and, and

706
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,360
again, I want, I really want us
to go away from the word

707
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,400
variants because I don't think
these are variants they're being

708
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,040
experimented on.
They're also, so it's just kind

709
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,040
of like, yeah, I, I won't call
them variants.

710
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,360
We'll call them Altered.
Altered.

711
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,560
There you go.
Or enhanced when that thing ran

712
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,040
up the stairs, I was like, I'm
done, I'm done.

713
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:57,080
And and fast and fast.
What like like some World War Z

714
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,240
bullshit World War.
That's exactly what came to my

715
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,720
mind.
Yeah, they were slow up them

716
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:06,600
downstairs, girl.
I had to pause my TV.

717
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:08,440
Look, even that I got
goosebumps.

718
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,320
I had to pause my TV 'cause I
was like, I need, I was like, I

719
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,360
need time to prepare because the
things almost got Darrell a

720
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,200
couple of times because even.
When he hit it with the thing

721
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,720
and it was like, Oh no, just.
Got back up.

722
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,960
I mean, OK, it's in the
background now.

723
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:35,240
And yelled.
Darrell jumps off the boat into

724
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:38,840
the water.
This thing is chasing him like

725
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,280
running.
Now, that's something we really

726
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,080
haven't seen with the main show.
Like we've seen fast walkers,

727
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,360
but I don't think we've seen
running walkers since the first

728
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,360
season when those walkers were
chasing after Rick and Glenn,

729
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,760
when the when the rain started
washing away the guts, you saw

730
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,280
some of them starting to run,
but it wasn't like a run run.

731
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,080
It was just kind of like a a
leap.

732
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,680
This thing was running.
I was like, no, no.

733
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,040
So then it makes you wonder when
you see what happens at the end,

734
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:17,560
you know, at the end of the
episode, what don't we 'cause

735
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,240
obviously y'all can't be trying
to y'all, Y'all can't be trying

736
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:23,240
to cure them and y'all can't be
trying to find a cure.

737
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,080
You are weaponizing these things
as if they aren't weapons

738
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,320
already.
You are making it worse.

739
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,920
But that explains that the acid
coming from the walkers that

740
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,160
explain.
I was like, you know what, this

741
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,600
woman, Madam Janay, I don't know
what her deal is.

742
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,200
She ain't right in the head to
be doing all of that.

743
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:53,000
You ain't right in the head.
I understand you're trying to

744
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,560
bring some sense of control.
You try to be in charge.

745
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:00,240
You're trying to quote UN quote,
reunite France.

746
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:07,440
I I question your methods good
lady, 'cause no, no.

747
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:13,280
We we also know that any
dictator have an ulterior

748
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,040
motive.
We need to figure out what that

749
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,560
is.
And there is some sort of motive

750
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:26,360
because they shoot the zombies
with a serum to enhance them

751
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,240
more.
Because now once they got shot

752
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:31,680
with it, you see their veins and
stuff all popping.

753
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,320
I'm like OK.
What is we doing here?

754
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,280
So you have to know that you're
doing this and testing this to

755
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:47,280
see the limits of what you're
zombies can do and to have it as

756
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,800
a public spectacle, you know, to
have it to where?

757
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,760
Oh, yeah, look and see what
these we can now win the war

758
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,920
because we can enhance design,
whatever her purpose is gonna

759
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,560
because, you know, it's gonna be
some purpose.

760
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,960
But you have to keep in mind you
threw the wrong person in there

761
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,880
with them.
See I.

762
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,600
You did the wrong one, I'm just
sorry.

763
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:16,360
So I understand y'all don't know
Daryl's history, y'all haven't

764
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,480
been around him the last 12
years.

765
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,880
Y'all just don't know all the
shit that he has fought through

766
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,560
and all this other stuff.
But you should have known that.

767
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,720
I mean, even though, you know,
they kind of leave us on a

768
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:32,320
cliffhanger with them in the
pit, but still.

769
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,800
This is the same one American
who fucked your whole ship.

770
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,400
Over you all are not giving him
enough credit and that's what it

771
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,080
is.
You are taking for granted that

772
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,720
the same way I I hate saying but
the same way they taking Laurent

773
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:50,480
for granted.
You are underestimating.

774
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:53,760
Yeah.
These people, because for three

775
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,560
people, Isabel, Laurent and
Darrell to come in, they don't

776
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,680
fucked up everything.
Everywhere they went, leaving

777
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,640
people alone.
Everywhere they went, they don't

778
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,080
fucked it up.
Maybe people alone.

779
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,880
If you see that they oh, they it
it.

780
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,360
If I see somebody keep getting
out of a situation that I'm

781
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,760
putting you in right, I may
wanna stop fucking with them.

782
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:23,840
Because yes, we are 12/13/14
years into the zombie

783
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,160
apocalypse.
Come on now, people have

784
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,000
learned, yes, you still have
your people who are sheltered,

785
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,360
who don't want to, you know,
they was out there in the world.

786
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,080
There's like, this ain't for me.
Let me be sheltered.

787
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,880
Let me do what I need to do to
remain safe.

788
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,360
But you have people like
Darrell, Rick, Michonne, Carol

789
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,880
who have been out in the world
and know that this circumstance

790
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,440
right now, I haven't been
through worse.

791
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,520
I don't have a home overrun.
I didn't had groups of people

792
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,320
inside the walkers killing our
friends like we have been

793
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,400
through some shit.
Yeah.

794
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:04,120
So don't think that you coming
in trying to make something

795
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,800
difficult that I'm not gonna
figure out a way out of this, no

796
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,920
matter what you perceive that
act.

797
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,800
So stop under that.
I think that's the main thing to

798
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,800
what 'cause it that that even
rings true with like the ones

799
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,680
who live.
You underestimated.

800
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,680
You totally underestimated.
Although Jade is new, if we got

801
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,960
1 Michelle, there's no
underestimation she is she that

802
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,280
she knew.
She knew.

803
00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:34,280
She knew like, wait a minute.
This woman left her children

804
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,440
well, at at times she didn't
know about.

805
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,920
This woman left her child to
come and look for it.

806
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Yeah, and I'll.
Stop.

807
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,320
So you're totally underestimated
and not giving these people

808
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,240
their credit who have literally
survived.

809
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,040
Mm hmm zombie apocalypse or I
won't.

810
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,600
Even I won't even say not giving
them their credit, because

811
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,800
again, Madam Janay only knows so
much about Darryl.

812
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,240
But you obviously ain't reading
the room.

813
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,440
Madam Janay know Darryl fucked
up her whole ship.

814
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,680
Why would you keep?
I mean this is one of the things

815
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,240
you kill him as soon as you find
him.

816
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,000
Like why would you continue to
let him be free for your

817
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,800
experiments knowing?
Yeah.

818
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:20,200
I just sunk your bowl.
Yeah, well, well, I sunk your

819
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,120
boat out of been a slippery
little snake.

820
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,800
Every time somebody after me,
they don't catch me.

821
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,760
I'm I'm.
I'm.

822
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,200
'Cause at this point, Codrone
should be out of a job right

823
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,320
now.
You know he should be out of a

824
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,600
job because you keep telling
Madam Janette I will find him

825
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,120
for you.
I will kill him for you.

826
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,240
And granted she has Darrell
right now, but why?

827
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,680
The only reason why she has
Daryl is because Laurent's book

828
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,160
bag wasn't closed and his stuff
fell out when they rushed.

829
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,680
If he didn't have those items
fall out that book bag, they

830
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,160
wouldn't have had a reason to
stop.

831
00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:00,360
Because you have to think about
it, they put, they probably

832
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,520
patrol those streets so many
times a day.

833
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,080
So they know what's there was
not just like with in the last

834
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,560
episode with the pigeon guy,
they saw his bike there with the

835
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,040
pigeons.
They were like, hold up, this

836
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,480
hasn't been here before.
What's going on?

837
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,480
And then of course, the guy
comes out because he doesn't

838
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,720
want them to take his pigeons.
But I mean, they're paying

839
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:25,440
attention to this type of stuff.
And especially if you're looking

840
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,200
for a child, you got a Rubik's
Cube, you got crayons and a

841
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:38,040
book, obviously that's a child.
But OK, so since we're talking

842
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,520
about Laurent, let's, let's,
let's back it up a little bit

843
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,560
and let's talk about this whole
trip to the next 'cause I

844
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,760
already know what you're going
to say.

845
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:50,600
And, and, and I will say this,
this episode was really the one

846
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:56,960
that I empathize with him the
most because yes, I was, I was

847
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:02,160
on the same warpath with Daryl
because Laurent, you know,

848
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,640
they're getting ready to go to
the nest.

849
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,000
They have this guy Aslan who's
helping them.

850
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,440
And Aslan overnight is killed by
zombies because zombies got into

851
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,040
the camp.
He tried to fight one off and he

852
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,040
ends up impaling himself on the
telephone pole, which I will

853
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,360
say, even though that was a sad
scene, it was funny to me

854
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,600
because I was like, this dude
still has a sense of humor.

855
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,680
He was like, God has a sense of
humor, he said.

856
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,760
My dad worked on telephone poles
all his life, and now I'm being

857
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,200
killed, like I'm dying because
of one, right?

858
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:41,160
So after they bury Aslan and
Daryl and Laurent are getting

859
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,880
ready to keep going to the nest,
Darryl realizes that the boat is

860
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,560
missing.
And the boat has been cut from

861
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,560
the tree.
And you can just see from the

862
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,360
way Laurent was looking, I was
like.

863
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,320
He didn't.
He did.

864
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:06,120
But when I tell you that tirade
that Daryl let out, I have never

865
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:11,280
heard Daryl go off like that
ever on an adult, much less a

866
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,400
child.
He was like, you stupid little

867
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,040
shit, why would you do that?
Blah blah blah blah blah.

868
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,280
I mean, he was going off.
That was the closest thing to a

869
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,160
whooping I I felt like, oh if he
had a belt he just fucked his

870
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,440
little ass back.
He would have, but then when he

871
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,480
asked him and Laurent just said,
everyone that I care about is

872
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,880
gone, and when we get to the
nest, you'll be gone too.

873
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,480
I don't want to be alone.
I was like, OK, that's the first

874
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,440
time where I I guess because
he's actually expressing how he

875
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,760
feels.
Because throughout all of this,

876
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:57,560
Laurent has been pretty, I don't
want to say nonchalant, but it's

877
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:03,440
kind of like he's been trying to
be, he's been trying to act a

878
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,280
little more mature because he
knows that these people are

879
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,920
depending on him, that they've
placed this, this expectation on

880
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,800
him.
And I think he was really trying

881
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,640
to to be what they wanted him to
be.

882
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,320
But in that moment, in that
moment, I saw Laurent as the

883
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,880
child that he is.
And I think Daryl finally saw it

884
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,440
too.
Because even up to that whole

885
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,360
point, when they're when they're
walking through the woods and

886
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,440
they're, you know, they're
catching fish.

887
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,120
And Laurent was like, oh, I
can't eat that fish.

888
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,600
I promised God.
And there was like, well,

889
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,200
sometimes we got to do what we
got to do to survive.

890
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,120
And it was just a whole bunch
of, you know, when he was

891
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,240
talking to Ashland, he was like,
yeah, the way they, they raised

892
00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:51,200
him at the Abbey, they raised
him soft.

893
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,680
He's going to have to know how
to defend himself.

894
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,920
We had, we had this whole big
conversation about this two

895
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,720
episodes ago about what they
should have done at the Abbey

896
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:03,960
and how they should have treated
him and how they should have

897
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,880
been training him and all this
other stuff.

898
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,840
But it's like in that moment
when he says I don't want to be

899
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,520
alone, Daryl also stopped
looking at him.

900
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,680
I don't think Daryl was ever
looking at him like he was the

901
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,120
Savior that everybody else does.
But he knew that this child had

902
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,560
a greater purpose because that's
what everybody's been telling

903
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,800
him.
And in that moment, that's when

904
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,800
you look at him as just a child
and he apologizes.

905
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,320
He's like, OK, it's going to be
all right.

906
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,280
We're, you know, we'll, we'll
make it.

907
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,640
And then, of course, they get
captured later because they hear

908
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,160
the trucks coming.
The truck stops because they

909
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,920
find the stuff.
Darrell tells the wine to go,

910
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,720
you know, follow the river to go
to the nest.

911
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,360
And he comes back because he
doesn't want Darrell to die,

912
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,320
which on the one hand, I was
kind of like, you should have

913
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,480
kept going.
But again, if you if he

914
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,160
literally just told you that
when you leave, he'll have

915
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,040
nobody else that cares for him,
I can understand.

916
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,600
Again, he's he's thinking with
the mind of a child.

917
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,800
I get that, but they wouldn't
let me kill him.

918
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,040
They was just gonna take his
eyeball.

919
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,080
That can kill most people and
Laurent probably, but all they

920
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,720
was doing was going to take a
eyeball.

921
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:18,280
But Laurent probably didn't know
that.

922
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,760
He just saw.
He just saw them coming with a

923
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,880
knife towards Darren.
He was like, look, don't kill

924
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,000
him.
And then that's when all of.

925
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,280
This eyeball.
That's when all of this stuff

926
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,840
starts coming up because they
get captured, they get taken to

927
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,400
Madam Janae.
Madam Janae sends this

928
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,480
invitation to Quinn to come to
her, you know, to come to her

929
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,480
headquarters.
And I guess because of the the

930
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,160
note, the message that Izzy
received, she realized that's

931
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,680
where Falou and Sophie were
going to be.

932
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,920
So she ends up going to because
when they're pulling up in the

933
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,680
car, you see them standing in
the line outside trying to get

934
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:04,160
in.
So I don't think when knew what

935
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,280
he was walking into, he thought,
hey.

936
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,920
Of course he didn't.
Hers we're.

937
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,680
Going to go in and Madam Janae
is just like, OK, yeah, come

938
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,880
here.
Because there's a guard being

939
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,880
brought to a room.
He where he's being beat to

940
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,800
death.
He's calling for Quinn.

941
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,240
Monsieur Quinn.
Monsieur Quinn, save me, Help

942
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:26,200
me.
And you know, Madam Janae said

943
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,280
something to him about.
Yeah, one of my one of my guards

944
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,640
let some people out of the city
that we were trying to keep in.

945
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,240
He took a what it.
What is it that you called?

946
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,400
And she said the word in French.
And Isabel was like, bribe.

947
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,200
Yeah, that's it.
Bribe.

948
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:45,640
OK, y'all come follow me.
I was like, at that point, y'all

949
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,280
should have been like, Nope,
Especially after the guard was

950
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,760
calling Quinn's name.
You should have known you were

951
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,440
sunk.
But now they turn the little

952
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,120
corner.
Here go, Marie standing there

953
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,720
looking all like, yes, I got
you.

954
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,640
And Daryl is in the jail cell.
OK, So they put Quinn in the

955
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,480
jail cell because Madam Janae is
like, oh, you disappointed me.

956
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:10,840
I thought you were better than
this.

957
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,240
She sticks Quinn in the cell
with Daryl.

958
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,200
Then she takes Isabel with her
to her office and there's

959
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:23,640
Laurent and apparently Laurent
been telling her some stuff

960
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,440
because she was like, he don't
want to do what I say and he's

961
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,000
starting to make me mad.
And you don't want.

962
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,480
She's not like the Incredible
Hulk.

963
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,400
You don't want you'll see me
when I'm angry, right?

964
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,000
And she said, what did he tell
her?

965
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,560
He said, you're not angry, your
heart is broken.

966
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,680
Did you see the change on her
face?

967
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,800
She was like, how the fuck he
know this?

968
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,320
I don't know where her heart is
broken over, but I'm.

969
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,760
Sure, we'll find that.
That touched the nerve.

970
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,720
Yeah, it did.
Because she.

971
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:54,320
Don't wanna believe she don't
wanna believe you don't.

972
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,680
Same way when they went into the
village and the lady who was a

973
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,720
who had just lost her her child.
Her.

974
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,920
Husband, her husband.
I'm sorry the lady who had just

975
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,680
lost her husband then she she
told her did like that she

976
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,520
better believe.
Right.

977
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,440
But you don't want these people
to believe in something other

978
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,720
than what you telling them.
And we said we didn't it.

979
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:25,880
It doesn't sound familiar.
You know, all, all villains, all

980
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,480
narcissists, They they have this
whole thing.

981
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,480
So what she wants is she wants
Laurent to come out with her as

982
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:38,000
a show of faith, as a show of
oh, no, we this, this child

983
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,680
can't defeat me.
This child is meant to help me

984
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,520
unify France.
He was like, they gonna know

985
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,480
it's a lie.
She, she, she looked like she

986
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,640
was about to say.
I'm about to give you a

987
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:49,000
whooping.
You do.

988
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,360
What the hell?
I said, right?

989
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,320
It's what she was saying.
I'm gonna fuck your auntie up.

990
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,840
That's.
Fuck her right up.

991
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,600
So she comes out, she makes a
speech, and of course all the

992
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,280
people who were standing
outside, they're in there.

993
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,960
Falou is in there, Sophie is in
there.

994
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,560
Like we said, she brings Daryl
out into this thing because

995
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,560
she's basically saying, yeah,
this person, he's trespassing,

996
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,080
he's not supposed to be here.
He's put a he's put a disruption

997
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,960
into my progress and we're going
to make him pay for it.

998
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:27,480
And then like you said, you got
this Walker who already looks

999
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:32,720
sketchy, then they shoot him up
with something and it's like

1000
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:41,560
zombie on crack.
I'm looking for the no I'm sorry

1001
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,400
and.
And that's what they leave us

1002
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,480
on.
Really.

1003
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,280
I mean, I know the next episode
is the season finale, but

1004
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,240
really?
Yeah, because I think at this

1005
00:58:54,240 --> 00:59:01,760
point we've gotten so much
information as far as the

1006
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,360
experimentations through all of
this shows we've gotten so much

1007
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:11,080
that this is now the the
pinnacle to where what the fuck

1008
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,800
y'all been working on what has
been going on and what is

1009
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,480
everything.
So I think even though it at the

1010
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,920
end they shoot him with the you
know, with the little serum or

1011
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,920
whatever and he you know powers
up.

1012
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,080
I think in the next episode we
finally gonna hopefully get some

1013
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,760
answers to all the stuff that
they've been working on even

1014
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,560
better.
And we have to because what are

1015
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,400
you shooting them with?
Like what is this now?

1016
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,280
And because if you remember a
few episodes back they had did

1017
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,120
something and remember the
Walker went crazy and smashed

1018
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,840
itself into the glass.
Yes.

1019
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:47,040
But then you have this other one
that's on the boat now can run

1020
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,720
upstairs, tears people apart
with his hands as opposed to

1021
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,880
biting.
So how do we get from smashing

1022
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,120
ourselves into the glass so I
can run up the stairs and tear

1023
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,200
you apart with my bare hands?
And it's not even, it's not even

1024
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,280
the fact that he was doing it
with his hands, cause yeah,

1025
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,920
we've seen walkers tear people
apart, but it's usually a slow.

1026
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,280
Process the way he's tore that
man apart.

1027
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,320
Come on, now that we need an
explanation, you can't just be

1028
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,560
like, Oh no, you can't
Unexplained that.

1029
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,560
We need some context as to what?
Because we've like, as you said,

1030
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,920
we see variations and
alterations of walkers over

1031
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,680
time.
And we know the variants are

1032
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,680
walkers themselves.
Because if we even go back to

1033
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:35,560
season 1 when Jenny jiggled the
door knob and then there we

1034
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,600
left, that's where they stopped
doing that and then just became,

1035
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,040
you know, basic walkers.
And now we have this iteration

1036
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,080
of them.
That now once we shoot you with

1037
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,800
something like your eyes turn
black and then the blood starts

1038
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,800
filling the rest of your pupils
and you start doing the shaking

1039
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,040
thing, it's like.
So there has to.

1040
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,560
Be Leroy was like, 'cause the
people were cheering, Leroy was

1041
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,760
like why are they cheering?
Like what the fuck is wrong with

1042
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,720
these people?
And then they take you back to

1043
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,760
goddamn Commonwealth with the
wrestling match.

1044
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,160
What?
What?

1045
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,200
Why is this entertainment doing
this right?

1046
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,400
And Cadrone sitting there
talking about today you would

1047
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,720
die for my brother.
Daryl looking up at him like

1048
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,360
what are you talk?
Daryl still don't know that's

1049
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,320
why Cadrone got a hard on for
him.

1050
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,600
He still don't know that's why
Cadrone been chasing after him

1051
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,040
this whole time because that
little girl lied about him

1052
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,760
killing his brother.
Yeah.

1053
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,560
I'm like, you know what?
If Daryl don't go back home

1054
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,280
after this, if Daryl don't say,
you know what, I have had enough

1055
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,640
of France, I'm done.
Send me home.

1056
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,240
Home right.
Home, Let.

1057
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:47,640
Me tell you so in the history of
zombie movies, TV shows and

1058
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:52,400
stuff I have always said like
when I watched World War Z for

1059
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:57,000
the first time and I saw the
those zombies running after

1060
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,720
people.
I have always said, I said, you

1061
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,360
know what I said if anything
like that ever happens, like

1062
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,000
Walking Dead walkers that are
kind of sludging through

1063
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,600
whatever, I might can handle
those.

1064
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:14,520
But if you have walkers that are
running towards me, I'm gonna

1065
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,480
sit down on the floor, cross my
legs and just come by y'all

1066
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,400
myself to death.
Say if I got a gun or whatever,

1067
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,200
I'm, I'm just, I'm ending it
'cause I'm not about to be torn

1068
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:31,640
apart by those type of things.
These walkers make those walkers

1069
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:37,720
look like child's play.
Not fucking with it, no.

1070
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,120
And then you shooting them up
and got them shaking and

1071
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,760
absolutely not.
No way in hell.

1072
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,200
Maybe it's crack.
You know crack is strong as.

1073
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:50,800
Him.
No.

1074
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:56,480
Whatever it is I want.
No part of it.

1075
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,160
Yeah.
Tell me you will not have to

1076
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,960
tell me 'cause guess what?
I'm going to lock myself in my

1077
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,560
house.
Right.

1078
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,520
And if they strong enough to get
through those doors, they just

1079
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,280
they just strong enough to get
through those doors.

1080
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,480
The only thing I can think of
that I would do the escape, I

1081
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,720
would have to find some way to
get in my attic and pull that

1082
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,800
ladder up after me because you
can't.

1083
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,640
That's probably the one safest
place.

1084
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,360
But then once they're in the
house, are they going to just

1085
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,960
leave the house once they
realize nobody is there?

1086
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,840
Like do those?
We know that.

1087
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,560
We know that they can become
dormant.

1088
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,920
Yeah, but they going to wake up
as soon as I lower that damn

1089
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,680
attic ladder down 'cause that
thing makes a lot of noise,

1090
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,120
right?
Right.

1091
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,880
I guess I need to take some WD40
up there with me.

1092
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,360
But don't start going to start
working in and loosening it up

1093
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,800
now.
'Cause those kind of hobbies I'm

1094
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:01,840
not like I said, I'm I'll
equipped I'm not let me go find

1095
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,040
somebody to take care of me to
kill all the walkers while I can

1096
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:10,960
just hello, no, I can't do it.
OK, but anyway, so we.

1097
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,120
Make it.
We gonna be the two that we

1098
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,240
gonna make it.
Right, right.

1099
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:22,760
So we are up to the season
finale of Season 1 and because

1100
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:29,200
we are recording these so late,
Season 2 actually premieres a

1101
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:33,040
week from today.
So we will be getting the book

1102
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,520
of Carol.
I know that they have I think

1103
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:41,120
the first 11 minutes online on
YouTube right now or on.

1104
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,240
AI have not watched it you.
Haven't.

1105
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:48,080
Are you going to?
It's not really spoilery, but it

1106
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,080
OK.
Yeah, it's fine, 'cause you get

1107
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,640
to see Carol.
OK, then I might watch it.

1108
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,120
OK.
I just like, I normally won't I,

1109
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,320
I normally try my best to stay
away from stuff like that just

1110
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:03,560
because I want to be in the
moment when I watch it and I I

1111
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,480
might not watch it because then
I'm a Wonder Woman, you know,

1112
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,000
granted island and then knowing
I'm going to be delayed and

1113
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,840
watching me when they come out
anyway.

1114
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,920
Yeah, I might, I might not be
good with that.

1115
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:19,360
Might not be.
But yeah, so we have that coming

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01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:24,240
out next Sunday, September 29th.
We already know that it has been

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01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,240
renewed for Season 3 and they
are they, I think they have

1118
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:31,360
already started shooting in
Season 3 in Madrid, Spain.

1119
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,880
Oh, cool.
And then I believe I have heard

1120
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,200
that there is going to be a
Season 4.

1121
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:44,360
Now, where they're going past
that, I don't know, because it

1122
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,000
all depends on where this goes
with the Book of Carol.

1123
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,240
Right.
But but at least we know that we

1124
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,480
are getting a couple more
seasons of Walking Dead

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01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,840
contents.
So I.

1126
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,520
Think and then Dead City should
be coming back soon as well.

1127
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:04,040
That city should be coming back
I think at the beginning of 2025

1128
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:09,120
SA few months from now.
I'm so sick of these long

1129
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:13,360
hiatuses but.
And then and then just for six.

1130
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,680
Episodes.
But you know what?

1131
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:22,920
I take what I can get.
I'm not going to complain 'cause

1132
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,920
it's Walking Dead content.
That's it.

1133
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,640
We at least have something.
We at least have something to to

1134
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,440
and palette.
Right, right.

1135
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,240
Please.
Our palette, I should say.

1136
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:40,720
So do we have anything else to
say about Episode 5?

1137
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:48,080
I think we got everything.
We got Lauren, we did everything

1138
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:49,680
with.
Bad ass.

1139
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,960
We got Madam Janae.
Well, her crazy ass and.

1140
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,800
We got the Quinn and is Isabel
stuff.

1141
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,440
Well, they goofy ass Anne.
Marie, I still can't believe.

1142
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,960
It's scorned ass.
I cannot believe you are mad at

1143
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,840
her.
I am mad at her.

1144
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:11,120
Like I said if this was pre
zombie apocalypse I would have

1145
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,440
been like yeah you petty just go
find you another man that's

1146
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,120
going to appreciate you.
But post she.

1147
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,840
Should have took a page out of
the Rosita book hold.

1148
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,920
On She Ain't That Cool and on
that note, that's it for our

1149
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,760
show.
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1150
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:32,000
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1151
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,880
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1152
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,760
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1153
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:40,240
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1154
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,960
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1155
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:44,680
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01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:45,880
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