The Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon S1E6 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #310

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Casey and Michelle and we
are finally getting around to

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discussing the season one
episode of Daryl Dixon.

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We couldn't do it without
Michelle.

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You know she was off
gallivanting for the last

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episode so we had to wait for
her to come back and then we all

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had to get settled with life.
So now we are discussing the

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season 1 finale.
How are y'all feeling about this

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show so far?
Darrell need to go home.

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Darrell need to go home.
LeBron need a whooping.

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That's that's pretty much part
for the course.

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Right.
I mean, it's nothing else to say

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after after those two things,
right?

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I.
Think the thing that really

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bothers me and not necessarily
about the show, what bothers me

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about the characters or the
people that we are meeting.

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Everybody is expecting Daryl to
want to stay there and how

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important he is to Laurent and
blah blah blah and continuously

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is telling y'all he has family
at home, he has people back

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home.
I think Isabel said something to

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him about she was trying to make
him feel guilty.

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She said something about
comparing him breaking his

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promise to or him not being
there for Laurent, kind of

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comparing it to his father not
being there for him.

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I was like, hold up, he got
other children back home that he

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need to be there for that.
Part yeah.

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And and that's what was, that's
the part that bothers me about

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this episode, honestly.
It's like this is they're making

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Darrell feel responsible for
him.

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Laurent, right?
Yeah.

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Just because Laurent is.
You have to stay here with us.

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Yeah, Like I.
Because he hasn't had this kind

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of influence before, right?
That's y'all's fault.

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So it's very hard like excuse me
friends, I mean he walked into

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your life, let him walk.
You don't even have you even ask

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him his history.
You so busy with this going on.

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But that's why but you.
Know Darrell, Darrell has always

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been very open since the
beginning, even when he agreed

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to take him 'cause he remember
he wanted a radio.

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Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll take him
if I can get back home.

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So he's always been very clear
on what his mission is.

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No matter what has come along.
I got people I gotta get back

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to.
I got people you gotta get.

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How can I get to the boat when
the boat coming where I gotta

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get to the bar?
Darrell has been very clear.

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I'm gonna help you.
But that's who Darrell is.

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I'm gonna help you.
But I still got to go off and do

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what I got to do.
Because even when he left

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Commonwealth, he knew he had to
take care of them.

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Damn kids.
But he loved his brother.

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He's like, let me go see what I
can find out.

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But what he say I'll be back.
So you can't think that this man

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ain't going to keep this
promise.

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Even even going all the way back
to season 1 where he was

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dedicated out there looking for
Sophia.

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He's not going to stop until
he's done.

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He do what he said he was going
to do.

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Once it's accomplished, you know
I'm on.

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I'm gone.
But we don't have a history like

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this where I'm just going to
leave all my family behind.

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And just staying friends, like
they don't know what has

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happened to me.
And especially with all of the

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loss they have had in that group
in recent years, nothing about

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Daryl would make me think that
he would be the type.

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Be like, OK, I'm just going to
leave them to wonder.

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And I'm just going to stay over
here and kick it with Laurent

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and Isabel.
And I'm telling y'all again,

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they, they they pushing this
Isabel and Darrell, they doing.

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Too many I'm on I'm on your side
now they.

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Doing too many.
More at first I was like, no,

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but they are trying to push this
relationship and I'm not feeling

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and I've really felt it in this
episode because it's like

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Darrell was around when Judith
was a baby.

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Even RJ was a baby.
He that that's like his kids

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pretty much.
He is Uncle Darrell, this little

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boy.
Well, we know for like 2 weeks.

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How long has it been?
A month maybe?

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It's probably been a couple of
months at this point because

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they've.
Still not enough time.

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Still not enough time.
You know, you asking him to stay

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like you that.
They're making all of these

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different little references,
like Lo saying, oh, maybe, maybe

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it's not about, you know, the
mission, why you want to stay,

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why he's looking at Isabel and
Laurent down at the bottom.

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I was like y'all are really
making.

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Me, I don't.
I'm not caring for.

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It.
Because he and, but he's not

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either in a way, because he like
I but we have to, even if this

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is what you push it, you have to
look at Darrell's track record.

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Because at the end of the day,
Darrell's going to do what he

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need to do for the people that
he love, the people he care

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about, because he was gone.
And remember, he was off in the

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forest living tree life with
Leah.

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But when it came down to it, he
killed Leah for Maggie.

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He not he's he don't give a
damn.

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Right.
OK, but is important to him and

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to think I'm just going to leave
them and stay here with you that

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no, that's not going to.
Happen.

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Yeah.
No, but the thing with Leah is

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different because Leah turned on
him, you know what I'm saying?

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Like she was with this other
group and when he gave her the

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opportunity to come back with
him and to be with his people,

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she made the choice to.
Yes, she killed Pope, but then

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she turned on Daryl.
So that was a little bit

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different.
But the thing that worries me

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about the whole thing with Daryl
and Isabel is one we already

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know.
When it comes to Daryl and The

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Walking Dead fandom, there are
two clear camps as far as who

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people want to see him with.
You got Carol over here and you

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got Connie over here.
Now notice they have never made

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anything concrete with either of
those two characters.

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They keep putting like a couple
of feelings and a couple of

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bread crumbs, but there's
they've never crossed that line.

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But here you have a stranger
like Leah, you bring her in and

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all of a sudden he's like in
this committed relationship.

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And you know, after he leaves
and comes back to find her, he

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leaves her and no, I belong with
you and all this other stuff.

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So I feel like they're probably
going to push the Isabel thing,

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one, because she's an unknown,
and two, because that gives them

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a way to make Darrell Dixon a
sexual being and to make him in

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a relationship without having to
choose size in the main fandom.

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I feel like it's a cop out it.
It.

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Is I I can teen kind?
She paid a sign that said teen

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kind of just that quick all day.
But I mean, but either way it

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goes.
I'm not saying that a

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relationship with Isabel would
be a bad thing, because I think

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in the right circumstances, it
probably could work.

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This is somebody who has no idea
of Daryl's past.

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She knows nothing about the
person that he was.

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It would be an opportunity for
fresh start, similar to the way

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it was with Leah.
However, I'm just not buying it.

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It's like I said, I felt, I felt
those vibes and what they were

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trying to do from the very first
episode.

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I knew that's the direction they
were going to try to go.

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And you do see it a little bit
more in this episode because

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they're they're stealing looks
at each other and they're doing

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this and.
It's just.

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But even even if they do make
that a thing, Darrell will still

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leave her ass even if they do
make them a couple.

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Or he's going to tell her to
come with like.

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Yeah, coming with him, but I
don't even I'm now I was in

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denial because I again saying,
you know, it was friendly, she

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was the nun, everything.
But I'm still not even.

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I'm not buying their chemistry
either.

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I'm not buying it for romantic
reasons.

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It just doesn't feel quite there
yet.

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I do.
I do feel like I do, I do feel a

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little bit of the
flirtatiousness and I do feel I

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think a a little bit more from
maybe her side.

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But with Daryl, what's?
The notice of flirting I don't

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notice of flirting.
I'm I'm not talking about openly

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flirting, 'cause we know Daryl
does not openly flirt.

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No, no, no, but I'm just saying
where I mean, aside from when

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the guy at the at the that Abby,
the guy at finesse was like, you

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know, looking at her and saying
that.

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But even with their inaction
between each other, everything

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that I feel that she does for
him is like her pushing Laurent

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on him, like stay because of
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He needs this male figure.
He needs some of a guy like

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she's.
Clearly deflecting.

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She's clearly deflecting.
OK, 'cause I don't see.

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It she's deflecting.
You, you understand what I'm

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saying, 'cause even when Quinn
was like, you know, trying to

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see what they had going on,
'cause, you know, he loved her

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so much.
But, you know, even when he was

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trying to figure it out, I
still, even then, I would have

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still seen her back with Quinn.
Then I would have seen her with

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her.
No, I I see where it's coming

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from on her end, but it it's
almost like she thinks she feels

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something for him and she's
trying to deny it.

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One, because she knows that his
goal is to go home. 2 Because

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also she hasn't been in that
type of relationship for so long

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that maybe she's not, I don't
want to say she doesn't

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understand what she's feeling,
but maybe she's just to the

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point where she was like, no,
that's just a little bit of, you

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know, it could be just a little
bit of lust.

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Like she ain't been with a man
since she's been at the, the

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Abbey.
So it could be a little bit of

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that and then, you know, to kind
of hide that or not.

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You know Quinn was ready.
Give your weight.

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Holding back the years.
After finding out that he

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fathered your nephew.
No, I wouldn't either.

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I don't.
Care what I'm saying he, he, she

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had a willing.
Participant, but she has to be

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willing and she was not with
Quinn at all.

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However, I feel like maybe with
Daryl she might.

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But I mean again, like I said,
I.

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Different little.
The different little looks

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between each other, You know,
when she first came out onto the

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thing, when after she was
recovering from her, her stab

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wound, you know, then looking at
each other other thing.

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He's like hi, and she's like hi.
I was like, Oh my God, please

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don't tell me we're going to
deal with this.

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The whole episode and it's just
a little things.

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He's sitting there at dinner and
he's looking across at her and

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she's looking across at him and
slapped.

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That feels forced.
That feels forced it it I'm.

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Sorry, it does, it does, but I
mean it just was my force does

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not change the fact that it's
that it's there.

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And I've been saying this since
episode 1.

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Like y'all really about to try
to make this a thing?

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Right.
And I was just thinking, you

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know, she's just friendly.
Rich people is friendly, you

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know, and, you know.
That's that's very coded.

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I believe me, I watch enough, I
I watch enough romance type

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things and.
People do too.

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And I just I was, I was just
ignoring it because normally

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with those you can you can feel
it from the beginning and I

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don't feel it from the
beginning.

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I.
I don't either.

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So that's why I just was like,
yeah, no, you know, she's just

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being friendly.
Yeah.

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No, I mean, I'm sorry.
I was just in denial because I

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just don't want that to.
I don't want that to because I'm

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not.
I don't want that to be the

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reason why he don't go home,
right?

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And then, of course, you throw
in, you throw in this child who

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has gotten attached to Darryl
and he has also seemingly gotten

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attached to him, which is
understandable.

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I mean, I think we've had this
discussion before.

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Like Darryl is not a dad, but
Darryl is a dad in all the ways

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that counts.
He is taking care of multiple

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children when it comes to this
zombie apocalypse, and I just

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feel like they're using that in
a way to keep him there.

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And it's not just Isabel,
because I don't think Isabel is

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doing it on purpose.
I really feel like she's getting

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to the point where she's
starting to panic because she

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realizes that Daryl is this
close to going home and she does

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not want him to leave for
whatever reason.

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I mean, even if it doesn't have
to do with a romantic feeling,

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even if it doesn't have to do
with her wanting him to be there

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as an example for Laurent, she
admitted in this episode, she

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feels safe with him.
She feels protected with him.

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She knows that he she knows that
he's a dangerous man and she

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knows that he knows what he's
doing.

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And I think when you are in a
situation where you've had the

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protection of this one place for
so long and now it's just kind

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of out there, you're out there.
You don't know what's going on.

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Like, yeah, you have these
people at the nest, which you,

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you know, you finally have
gotten to.

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But it's, these are not your
people in a sense.

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They don't know you.
They don't know what you've been

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through.
They only know certain things

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about you.
Like they know that you're, you

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know that you've been protecting
Laurent.

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You, they know that Laurent,
they think he's the Messiah.

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What whatever this this thing is
that they think about him.

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I think she just, she kind of
wants to hold on to him for the

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same reason Laurent did, where
Laurent was like, all the people

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that I, that I love are gone.
I don't want to be alone.

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I don't think she wants to be
alone.

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So even if there is no no
romantic feelings on her part at

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this point, I just feel like she
just she wants the familiarity,

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but she got she gonna have to
the the guilt trips are really

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was starting to like you could
kind of that's getting on my

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nerves.
And a couple of a couple of

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episodes ago, you could kind of
see a a a thing here and a sang

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there and just a hint, but not
like they were laying it on

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heavy and thick in this episode,
especially once he he brings up

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his grandfather and the fact
that, you know, this episode

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started out with D-Day on the
beaches of Normandy and there

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was grandfather was there.
And so he gives Isabelle a

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little bit of a background about
that, about how his grandfather

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wasn't there for his dad and his
dad turned out to be a shitty

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father.
And, you know, just kind of that

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whole thing about how I hated
that, how psyched I didn't mind

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his part of it.
You know, as far as like him

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telling the story, because we
don't hear a lot of Daryl's

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family except for the bad stuff,
him to turn around and use that

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against him.
I didn't.

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Like that?
But.

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See, we and and I think we're
fortunate as a viewer because we

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have the back history on him
with Merle and all the stories

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like with him and Beth and he
should we got more insight on

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what his family was like.
So we have background and for

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somebody who don't know him to
come in and now you're trying to

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psychologically evaluate me and
tell me all these.

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She's manipulating.
We're we're not even going.

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You're manipulating.
Him, she's manipulating him, was

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attempting to manipulate him.
Yeah, 'cause that's Ian.

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You see he gone, He's like I.
And then what happens at the end

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when he does leave, he's almost
the boat is almost.

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Badass.
Boy, and Laurent is there and I

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don't.
How about there, girl?

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When I watched it at the end and
you could kind of see they did a

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long shot of Daryl on the beach
and Laurent and all the walkers

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coming up.
Did you notice Daryl was he was

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looking at the boat, he was
looking at Laurent.

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And then all of a sudden you see
him hang his head.

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It's like, why would y'all do
that to this man?

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Because here's the thing, we
know Daryl.

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We know his character.
We know if he feels responsible

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for Laurent, he's gonna go do
whatever he needs to do to

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protect Laurent, make sure
Laurent is being taken care of,

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being treated right, whatever.
But if Darrell Dixon was a

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different type of person and was
starting to feel resentful about

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the fact that y'all are putting
all of this responsibility on

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him for a child that he,
technically speaking, barely

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knows, this could turn out to be
a whole different thing.

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Guess what Laurent Ass would
have been in America?

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Right.
I can't take you back.

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We would have been.
Look, we'll, we'll see.

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You ain't look, you don't have
to worry about me leaving 'cause

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you weren't with me.
We getting on them both

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together, baby.
I just that, that whole thing

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just making him feel guilty.
Oh, well, you know what?

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Sometimes when a man leaves
home, he finds the place that

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he's really supposed to be.
If you know, shut the fuck up

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and let this man go home.
And that's what.

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All because of your and, and,
and.

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OK, I, I, I really try not to
get on this soapbox, but you

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always see it when it comes to
people who are dealing with

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faith issues, religious issues
and, and, and zealous fanatics.

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Any time that it comes to
religion, it's like your their

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beliefs or what they what they
want.

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What they believe is always
supposed to supersede everyone

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else's.
'Cause you wouldn't be on this

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path if not for God.
He wouldn't have been bringing

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you here if this wasn't really
the place you were supposed to

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be.
Because I mean, technically, why

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else would you end up in France
if you're an American?

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I mean, this your purpose.
But he.

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Should have.
He can spin it though and use

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the same thing.
But I have finished my mission.

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This was my purpose and my
purpose have been served.

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So now I gotta go and find my.
Family.

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Or you can just tell the truth.
So let me tell you how I got the

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friend is sending people to
America to make American walkers

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to bring them back here for all
of these little walkers that I

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just got finished killing in
this death match.

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That's what you really, that's
what he really should have said.

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He should have told her.
OK, so let me educate you on how

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I got to France.
And it had nothing to do with me

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wanting to be, you know, me
wanting to see the world.

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I don't want.
I don't need to see that much of

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the world 'cause I know for a
fact Rick Grimes ain't over

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here, you know what I'm saying?
So it just, it bothers me that

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they they are so they are so
focused and so selfish as far as

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what they want.
And again, we still don't know

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what they're going to do with
Laurent.

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Like through the course of this
episode, Laurent has arrived at

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the nest and we see everybody
treating him like he's a special

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kid.
This, that and the other, same

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thing that we've seen with the
other location, but it's like.

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So y'all keep saying he's a
special kid, y'all keep saying

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he's the Messiah, he's going to
change the world.

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How exactly are y'all planning
to do that?

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Because even through the end of
this episode, this is the Season

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1 finale, we still don't know
exactly what that means for

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Laurent.
What his purpose is?

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Right.
And again I feel like because he

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don't.
Even know aside for no all, I

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know I'm supposed to be able to
save everybody, right?

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And it's like for for us, like
Michelle and I, we watched The

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Last of Us, so we know kind of
they had a similar storyline

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with another child.
And that storyline didn't well,

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almost didn't work out well for
her because they knew that she

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had something in her to save
everyone.

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But what they were going to have
to do was kill her and take

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pieces of her brain and
experiment and do all this other

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stuff.
Are they going to do the same

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thing with the rock?
Like do they even have the means

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to do that?
Because we know they have

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doctors.
Somebody fixed Izzy up.

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But like, what is the whole
purpose of this child, this

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Messiah?
What are y'all doing?

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And why do y'all think this is
supposed to be like so extra

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important to Darrell?
Because if y'all fix whatever

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y'all fixing over there at
France, y'all have a whole other

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problem to deal with in France,
which is Madame Janay.

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If y'all find out that Laurent
is in fact this savior, this

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Messiah, this cure to everything
I am, I don't even know if

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they're considering him, him a
cure.

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But obviously, you using the
words like Messiah and savior,

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you thinking that he's going to
be an answer to the problem that

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y'all have, which is the
walkers.

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Madame Janay is trying to dispel
that information because she

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wants to be the savior of
France.

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She wants to build a new France.
And she thinks that people who

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are believing in him are
believing in, you know, just

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fairy tales.
So if y'all do prove that this

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boy is special, y'all gonna have
a whole different battle to

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fight because she's really going
to be gunning after y'all.

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Then if Darrell leaves and goes
across the sea, ain't nobody

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coming to chase him.
He didn't already fucked one of

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her bolts up.
He had killed multiple of her,

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her soldiers.
And even in this episode at the

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beginning they put him against
several of those hyped up

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walkers and he kills them with
Quinn's help in this episode.

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But they kill him.
So obviously y'all don't want to

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keep fucking with this man.
But this group over here who may

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or may not be able to fight, who
may or may not be, you know,

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delusional enough to say, oh,
this boy is the Messiah.

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Are y'all going to be prepared
to, to fight like trained

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soldiers?
Because the nuns at the Abbey

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weren't.
They were trained, but not to

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withstand that kind of assault,
right?

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So you got a whole different
problem.

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Let this man go home to his
family.

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And you would think, because I'm
sure Madam Janay knows what he

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wants, he want to go home,
period.

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You could.
You already see you can't kill

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this man.
You can't get nobody else to

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kill him.
You can't like even your man who

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you sent out on the mission, go
get them.

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Kill the boy, kill everybody.
At the end has a change.

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Couldn't even do it right.
So it's nothing.

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Even if you don't let him go
home, leave that man alone.

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Leave him alone.
Because at what point do you say

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yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't lost
enough men.

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I didn't he's because what he
did in that deathmatch once he

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killed the the last Walker and
threw that head up there.

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That's a big ass fuck you.
I.

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I almost expected him to turn
around and shoot a bird at her

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after he did that.
I really expected that.

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'Cause it's like, what if that's
not a huge fuck you and all

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these spectators that you had
that were cheering at first for

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the zombies, now they cheer for
this man.

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And you already got a problem
with them praising the little

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kid.
Now he's going to become the

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legend Darryl Dixon.
Leave it ma'am alone and let

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him.
Alone.

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Just let him.
Go.

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Won't you be like you want me to
take you home?

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I'll take you home.
Right.

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Like can't can I do that?
Can I just get rid of you?

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I I would send you back, yes.
What do you need from me to make

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that happen?
Right.

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Because.
Obviously you are bad.

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In all the plans that she have,
like her, her vision, he's

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fucking it up.
Right.

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And and it's not just behind
scenes.

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He's doing this in front of the
people she's trying to win over

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to her cause like your serum
isn't even fully working because

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you bring 4 walkers in one of
them his head explodes because

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he can't handle the serum and
then the second one comes and

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attacks another one and kills in
it.

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That thing was like oh I don't
recognize you as a Walker.

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You are.
You are moving around.

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I'm going.
That was probably the funniest,

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I said.
Oh hell no.

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'Cause even Daryl was looking
like what the fuck?

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Oh, OK.
Thanks for taking care of that

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for me.
Right.

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But I just yeah, Madam Janae
just need the she just need to

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leave there.
Alone.

448
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,640
But we also have to realize all
of our villains, not even, you

449
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,680
know, on this show, they get
overzealous and they are

450
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,240
overconfident and they have so
much faith that they are doing

451
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,440
the right thing that it never
ends, correct.

452
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,160
Well, I mean, and, and that's
the conversation we've had

453
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,080
before.
Like they're all not necessarily

454
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,480
villains, because all of them
what what is cheating?

455
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,040
You're you're all you always the
hero in your own story.

456
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,320
You know you're only the villain
in someone else's story.

457
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,760
No, she's the villain.
No.

458
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,440
Yeah, I must say I'm sorry.
She is, I mean, and I.

459
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,120
Do that.
But she's doing it under the the

460
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:52,400
mindset that she's going to
bring France back, you know, not

461
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,080
the way you.
Going about I'm sorry that

462
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,920
there's no way that you you not
you doing some other stuff I.

463
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:02,000
Don't know, because he's doing
stuff he might not use the, the

464
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,880
walkers, the the experimented
walkers or the accelerated

465
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,720
walkers, whatever we want to
call them.

466
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,920
She might be planning to use
those like, oh, OK, so we know

467
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,040
we got people in America.
We know we got strong people in

468
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,920
America.
Listen, those things over there

469
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,360
and just get rid of everybody.
No, because depending on when

470
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:24,640
this is.
Well, according to Quinn, it

471
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,480
like I said, according to Quinn,
when he talked to Isabel about

472
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,200
giving her that jewelry, he said
I didn't expect to have to wait

473
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,720
12 years to give it to you.
So we're somewhere around, I

474
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,640
would say the 1213 year mark
provided that he actually got

475
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,360
those gems at the start, which I
think he did because he was

476
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:49,120
talking about how when
everything fell, people could

477
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,560
just walk into the jewelry
stores and just take whatever

478
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,680
they want.
Well, if that's the case.

479
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,360
I'm sorry to go back.
You weren't here for this

480
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,880
episode.
If that's the case and that's

481
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,400
where we are in the timeline,
Carol couldn't have said that

482
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,960
Rick was back.
Oh well, I I agree with that

483
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,520
too.
But here's the other thing.

484
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,560
So we do see it.
Towards the end of the episode,

485
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,120
Carol makes an appearance.
She's looking for there or she

486
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:21,240
finds the guy who has his bike.
So my thing is, if Rick and

487
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:27,000
Michelle had already returned at
that point, remember they were

488
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,000
the cause of changes in the CRM.
You don't think Rick Grimes

489
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,520
could have said, hey, my brother
is across seas, let's take one

490
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,160
of these helicopters and let's
go?

491
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,120
He would have, he would have
been, he would have been with

492
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,760
her because even though, yes, he
probably would have been like,

493
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,280
I'm not leaving my children
again.

494
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,480
Just like Michonne didn't want
to leave her children.

495
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,120
And Judith said go bring my
daddy home.

496
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,320
Judith is probably like, go get
Uncle Daryl because he's

497
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,320
probably found himself in
trouble.

498
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,200
So I, I don't think it, it's
Rick that she was talking about

499
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,800
because there is no way,
especially after a six year or

500
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,080
at this point 8 year separation.
There is no way Rick is just

501
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:17,400
going to send Carol or let Carol
go out there by herself to find

502
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,960
Daryl and he just going to sit
behind and what?

503
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,760
Twiddle his thumbs or twiddle
his thumb or you know what I'm

504
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,720
saying, not.
Twiddle his thumb, I think.

505
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,200
I mean, there's just, there's no
way that's going to happen.

506
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,440
So I'm going back.
I'm going back to your theory,

507
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,160
Casey.
It might be Morgan that we're

508
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,000
talking about.
It could have been, I don't

509
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,600
know.
But it it definitely can't be

510
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,360
Rick and Michonne.
'Cause they would have went with

511
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,680
him.
Oh, absolutely they would have

512
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,360
went with her.
I mean, they would have.

513
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,200
Well, we got to go find him.
Let's.

514
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,600
Get our part of our family.
Exactly, we got one part of our

515
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,720
family, let's go get the rest so
it not.

516
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,760
Yeah, I don't think so.
And then I I'm going.

517
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,280
To stick with Morgan.
I wouldn't even.

518
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,320
I wouldn't be surprised if the
CRM had a fleet.

519
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Maybe not a big one, but they
had every literally everything

520
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,920
else that a military can need.
But wait, wasn't in the

521
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,360
beginning like the first?
I was so.

522
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,200
Well when we saw the ship,
didn't it have the CRM symbol on

523
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,000
it?
The ship and the Daryl Dixon

524
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,520
ship, Yeah, I don't think so.
I don't think so either 'cause

525
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,360
we definitely would.
Have said something about that.

526
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,800
OK.
Yeah, we definitely.

527
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,280
I don't know why I thought that,
but we.

528
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,200
Definitely wouldn't have talked
about that.

529
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,080
Definitely, but no SO.
OK 'cause I wanna say like.

530
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,520
Or maybe it was at the.
End.

531
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,040
Or you might be thinking about
the ones who live.

532
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,280
No, it was a Walking Dead show,
but it was a it was a after

533
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,160
clip.
OK, we're gonna have to go back

534
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,240
and look.
Yeah, we're gonna, I'm gonna

535
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,360
have to, I'm, I'm a research,
but I wanna say it was after

536
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,720
clip and one of them had the the
three circles like on the wall

537
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,240
of the ship 'cause which it was
one of them that had a after

538
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,320
episode.
I mean after episode, after

539
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,360
after credit scene.
And they was on the boat and it

540
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,920
was Madam Janay and she was
talking to like the crew.

541
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,960
Yeah, I remember that.
But which?

542
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,840
Which, which show was that on?
Was that on?

543
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,280
That wasn't on the main.
That was Daryl Dixon.

544
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:39,720
That was episode, I want to say
episode 2 or episode 3.

545
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,960
OK, I'm gonna go back and look.
So by the time we talk about it

546
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,160
again, I'll, I'll have a, have
a.

547
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:54,320
OK, but yeah, I because I think
if that had been ACRM ship, we'd

548
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,320
have also seen a lot more of it
just being talked about in the

549
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,240
fandom now with with this
recording in these episodes that

550
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,800
we've been releasing.
We're we're several months,

551
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,480
we're we're really late because
of all the other stuff we've

552
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:14,200
been covering and everything.
So even yeah, other shows would

553
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,960
have covered it especially like
I'm pretty sure if there was a

554
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,000
CRM thing, I'm I'm sure
squawking dead would have picked

555
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,160
it up and I don't recall hearing
them saying anything about it.

556
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,000
So hey y'all.
Maybe I'm I might be mistaken

557
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,600
but I could have sworn OK.
Girl, look, stop reading that

558
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:38,000
fan fiction.
You know I gotta stay off the

559
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,840
Internet 'cause I I I'll be mad
and see if I get spoiled around.

560
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,560
And we would have said
something.

561
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
OK, fine.

562
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:55,320
You know, it's, it's, it's OK,
But OK, so let's actually talk

563
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,640
about more about the episode
'cause we have been, we have

564
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,640
been very lengthy in our
opinions about certain things.

565
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:09,960
But let's talk about the the
cage match first of all, because

566
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,480
when we left off the last
episode, you know, Daryl was

567
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,080
getting ready to fight one of
the souped up walkers.

568
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,360
Hey, I don't want to say
necessarily short work of that

569
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,760
Walker, but it didn't take him
as long as you would think or it

570
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,960
wasn't as short as you would
think given that this Walker was

571
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,880
enhanced like you would expect,
you know, a regular person, they

572
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,480
would have been dead in like 2
seconds.

573
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,520
There was looking at this thing
like, oh OK, you leveled up all

574
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,880
right, gotcha.
And he was able to take that

575
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,880
thing out.
And every time he did, Madam

576
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,520
Janae's face was just so funny
to me, 'cause she was looking at

577
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,760
the scientist who created the
the serum and she was like, is

578
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,960
this the best you got?
He's going, no, no.

579
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:03,680
But then you bring out the best
you got, and it still ain't

580
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,640
enough.
First of all, when they brought

581
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,600
Quinn out and handcuffed them
together and Quinn sitting here,

582
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,040
they're about to fight each
other, I was like, Quinn, you

583
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,840
really think that this is about
to go your way, 'cause he's very

584
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:24,000
confident, he's very mouthy.
I was like Quinn, like the same

585
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000
about you.
Same about you.

586
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,639
And then when they brought those
four out, I really, I, I'll be

587
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,239
honest, I'll, I'll give it to
Quinn, even though Daryl helped

588
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:42,199
him at the last he his own.
So obviously he has some skills.

589
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,320
I mean, you don't become the the
the person in the position that

590
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,840
you are in in France 12 years
after the apocalypse without

591
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,000
picking up a few skills.
Yeah.

592
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:59,040
Yeah, but we see that he's been
bitten or that the acid got him.

593
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,360
I I think it was a bite.
I couldn't really tell, though.

594
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,640
He told Daryl was more like a
bite to me.

595
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,480
OK, that's what I thought.
But you know, So of course he

596
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,560
sacrifices himself to save Daryl
so that Daryl can go and save

597
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,960
Izzy and Laurent.
But.

598
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,080
When I say Darrell cut that hand
off so quick he was like he

599
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,880
wasted, no.
I don't say no hesitation.

600
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:29,240
None.
But it's, it's like Madam Janae,

601
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,960
like y'all said, you're sitting
there, you're giving this big

602
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,440
speech about reunite, you know,
the reunification of France and

603
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,440
making it new and this that and
the other.

604
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,960
And then you put on a death
match with walkers.

605
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:53,680
I don't know what it is about
dictators and human nature where

606
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,360
they feel like those type of
events are the right type of

607
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,760
events to get people behind
them.

608
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:07,280
I I understand as humans we do
have a, a particular need for

609
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,080
some violence, but like even
with the governor when he was

610
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,000
doing it, it's like, what do you
expect to accomplish with?

611
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,680
This.
And then for it to for the ties

612
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,720
to turn.
I mean, before the world fell

613
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:25,040
apart, there were still movies.
I'm sure gladiator.

614
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,360
I'm sure y'all saw a gladiator.
Come on now.

615
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,640
Like this is what happened in
the Roman times.

616
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,360
When you you get a gladiator
that is particularly skilled

617
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,920
this that, you know, stands up
against the status quo.

618
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:47,360
The crowd always turns.
It's it's like it's a given and

619
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:55,360
then you just up and leave and
expect what the regular people

620
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,080
to kill them.
If you're souped up monsters

621
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,920
couldn't do it.
What makes you think your

622
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,200
soldiers could?
How many of you soldiers has he

623
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:08,640
killed already?
Let's count 123 like.

624
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,320
Yeah, and then go to the even
beginning 2, not just this

625
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,000
episode.
Right, all the way back on the

626
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,040
boat.
So he destroyed a boat like.

627
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,760
Right.
He destroyed a boat, right,

628
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,840
Right.
And the people on the boat and

629
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,240
the walkers, some of the walkers
that were on the boat.

630
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,880
Leave the man alone, just just
like if she can't get a better

631
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,760
wake up call, leave this man
alone.

632
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:48,240
Yeah, because obviously this,
this one man with no military

633
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:52,440
training has more training than
your military training.

634
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,800
I mean, then your military
officers, obviously this man

635
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,760
then been through some.
Shit and and it's clear to me,

636
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,160
'cause like, so I get it.
Like when they make these

637
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:11,080
armies, people have the luxury
of guns, whereas our people

638
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,560
didn't have that luxury.
So that everybody in coming from

639
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,560
the main universe will get down
and dirty with some walkers up

640
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,640
close personal so they know how
to survive.

641
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,160
So even whether you a human or a
Walker, I have built up this

642
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,640
resistance where if you come
close to me, I know how to take

643
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,800
you out.
Whereas the people that they

644
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,640
recruit, 'cause I'm sure that's
what they're all people who are

645
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,240
recruited trying to stay safe.
You give me a gun, I can stay

646
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,640
safe.
They don't know that hand to

647
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,000
hand combat.
You know what I'm saying, 'cause

648
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,800
even like when Darrell was
training for the people in the

649
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:56,440
in the even them, like you got
to get up and close and personal

650
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,440
like yet you're not always going
to have a weapon.

651
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,160
You're not always going to have
that safety net of that.

652
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,920
Daryl been in the world how
long?

653
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,000
1415 years killing up close and
personal.

654
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,840
So do you think this man is
going to let anything so simple

655
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,920
take him out here now?
Yeah, I mean.

656
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,760
In order to kill Daryl Dixon,
you will have to shoot him from.

657
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,600
Far off.
Yeah, yeah.

658
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,960
I mean, look at what he was
doing on the beach.

659
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:26,960
Once he reeled, the first of
all, I started laughing when he

660
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,720
was calling out to the boat
because I was like, here we go

661
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:32,040
again.
Failing, failing zombie walk one

662
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,200
O 1.
Why are you yelling?

663
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,040
Granted, I understand the beach
was very clear from his point of

664
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:44,440
view and obviously he really
didn't encounter any walkers on

665
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,840
the way it, you know, not that,
not that they showed us except

666
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,280
for the one that was stuck in
the tree.

667
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,000
So yeah, he probably got a
little too relaxed, but the

668
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,480
minute they started coming out
of the ground just And you have

669
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,800
to.
Keep in mind because even when

670
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,960
he got there, there were no
walkers so right.

671
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,960
What makes you think they hiding
in the ground?

672
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Right.
And like there was, there was

673
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,040
one part, it looked like a cave
where a couple of them were

674
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,840
coming out.
I'm like, wait, he walked the

675
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,120
whole way here. 2 days walk.
Now according to Losang, this is

676
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,040
a 2 days walk.
You get all the way to the

677
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:25,280
beach, you go through the entire
American soldier graveyard

678
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,000
that's there.
Which, OK, I will say that was a

679
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,080
beautiful moment for to see.
There will be.

680
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,320
And him looking for his.
Yeah, once he once he realized,

681
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,440
oh, wait, this is a a graveyard
for the American soldiers who

682
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,160
died here, he starts looking for
his grandfather's grave and he

683
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,200
finds it and he has that moment
that was so beautiful.

684
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,040
I loved it.
But again, you've gone through

685
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,640
and looked through all of these
graves you haven't tripped over,

686
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,720
not one Walker.
The minute you open your mouth

687
00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:58,280
and you see the boat, they all
start popping up like you

688
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,960
playing a game of whack a mole.
Like what?

689
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:07,960
The how, when and even with
that, yes, OK, this is not that

690
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,080
cause Laurent followed him.
Remember, Darrell was holed up

691
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,960
in the in the rain in the little
house.

692
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,440
So Laurent was outside the rain.
What?

693
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,840
What is travels at?
OK, let's go.

694
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:25,880
He left it.
He left the day after him and

695
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,920
ran the whole way to catch up
with him.

696
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,680
You know what, I wouldn't be
surprised.

697
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,560
I would not put it past Laurent.
Yeah, because, you know, he need

698
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,040
a whooping, so.
OK, so let's just go back to the

699
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,160
boat.
It made me think of this movie

700
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,040
and no one probably ever saw it.
It was limbo.

701
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,560
And at the end of the movie it
was the same thing.

702
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,840
You're on the beach, you you
need to get off the island.

703
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,960
You see a boat coming and you
waving it down.

704
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,280
And it made me think you don't
even know who's on the boat.

705
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,880
And that was the whole thing.
It knew.

706
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,280
Because Lo Sang said.
OK, we've reached out.

707
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,080
This boat will be here.
In two days.

708
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,800
I don't, I don't, I still don't
trust that.

709
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,040
So they made me think of limbo,
like, you think, you know, like

710
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,400
they call for help too, but they
didn't know if it was the

711
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,480
murderers on that boat or the
help.

712
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,400
That's how I feel.
And second, yes, Darrell was

713
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,040
having to leisurely stroll down
to the beach to get there.

714
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,120
So that little boy was running
behind him.

715
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,840
But I can't believe Darrell
didn't even realize the boy was

716
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,960
behind him.
But he had.

717
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:29,240
He could be this nasty cracker,
OK, But you know, hey.

718
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,880
You, the master tracker, don't
know he'd be in track, right?

719
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,800
Or that La Ron got through those
walkers to get up there to tell,

720
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,920
to call Darryl's name, like.
And then you're standing there

721
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,320
so calm, but all of these
walkers are gathering like the

722
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,480
last shot we see of them.
The walkers are gathering right

723
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,040
before La Ron.
The rock can't fight them off.

724
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,040
And Darryl is way down there on
the beach touting because his

725
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:06,600
out just got snatched from him.
So I, I do question a couple of

726
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,680
decisions that they.
Yeah.

727
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,040
Very much so.
You.

728
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,160
You already know.
We.

729
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,800
Yeah, you already know.
'Cause I said the same thing,

730
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,920
how you make it all this way.
This man had to sleep in the

731
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,920
right in in the in the in the
little barn overnight.

732
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,680
He.
Probably was in another part of

733
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,440
the barn and just kept quiet.
I mean, Hanukkah, no.

734
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,640
He didn't.
No, no, he wouldn't have kept

735
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:33,480
quiet.
Soon as he caught up to him, he.

736
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,360
Wouldn't say Daryl.
Daryl, wake up, Daryl.

737
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,040
Apparently.
Well, Daryl.

738
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,120
Would have been pissed at him.
I mean, think about what

739
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,840
happened when when the boat
happened, the way that Daryl

740
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,960
went off on him.
Yeah, he probably was like,

741
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,320
yeah, I'm not getting cussed out
again.

742
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,080
I'm just gonna stay back here
and I'm gonna be quiet the way

743
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,600
Darrell has been telling me to
for all this time.

744
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,640
I'm gonna actually listen now,
because other than that, you're

745
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:01,760
right.
It doesn't make sense.

746
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,120
The fact that one, Darrell
doesn't realize that he's not

747
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:10,360
alone because Laurent can't be
tracking him from that far back.

748
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:18,680
You know, 2, I mean, it would be
easy to say, OK, maybe he just

749
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,520
followed, followed Daryl to the
coast.

750
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,560
But again, Laurent has never
been outside the Abbey until all

751
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,360
this stuff happened.
So he wouldn't even know which

752
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,800
way to go.
So I don't.

753
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,280
But OK, let's let's go back to
this thought.

754
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,520
Laurent does seem to know some
things that other people don't

755
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,120
tend to know.
And again, we don't know what

756
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,920
message they're trying to send
us in the show about Laurent's

757
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,840
character, whether or not he
really is this kind of special

758
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,760
kid and has this little 6th
sense about things.

759
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,520
Because think about it, when
they were in the the death

760
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:01,200
match, when Daryl was fighting
the Walker by himself and Isabel

761
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,400
started praying, Laurent was
like, don't worry, Izzy Dad was

762
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,240
going to, he's going to be fine.
And literally right after that,

763
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,720
he killed it.
But when the other ones came in,

764
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,960
I don't think he knew for sure.
And that's when he started

765
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,280
praying.
So I don't know there.

766
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,960
There's something about him.
He does sense some things, so

767
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:26,880
maybe there was something
guiding him after Daryl I

768
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,880
Because other than that, nothing
else makes sense.

769
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,800
Because if you have Laurent
coming after Daryl, then

770
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,840
technically speaking, Isabel
should not be far behind.

771
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,640
So that is absolutely true
because at some point she got to

772
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,120
realize he's gone that part.
Exactly.

773
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,720
That's what I'm saying.
So it's like you.

774
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,200
You ain't window two days
without knowing he ain't.

775
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,720
Right, right.
And not following him and she

776
00:45:54,720 --> 00:46:02,120
would have had access to a car.
So I OK, I don't know.

777
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,080
So let me just be completely
honest, I really didn't care for

778
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,000
this episode because it made me
mad.

779
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:17,400
Yeah, all the reasons that we're
talking about, and I was good up

780
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,560
until this episode.
However, the whole season has

781
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:28,760
been good, so I can ignore it.
It's not like Dead City.

782
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:32,600
I can't record.
This I can ignore.

783
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,960
I just got one question these
little issues because Laurent,

784
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,680
he he is a shelter kid now at
this point.

785
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,680
Now he should not be running
off, but I guess he feels like

786
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,560
all good and bad because, you
know, he killed, you know, a

787
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,120
Walker.
However, again, why is this

788
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,480
little boy running off?
Why nobody watching him?

789
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,040
He does.
He does.

790
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,160
He does.
Why are you asking a man you

791
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,160
only know him for two months on
Tinder to stay with you forever?

792
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:09,000
You know, don't say on Tinder
because that that that turns it

793
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,800
icky.
So yeah, don't.

794
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,560
OK, well, no, I'm not going to
say that.

795
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,720
You can't say that though,
because I have some friends who

796
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:18,800
actually, you know, got married
and met and they had nice dates

797
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,520
on Tinder.
So I'm Tinder.

798
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,720
Oh, you're talking about.
See, I thought you was talking

799
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:26,040
about Laurent.
That's why I was like, that's.

800
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,360
Oh, no, I'm talking about yeah,
yeah.

801
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,920
You just met this man and you
want him to commit to you and

802
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,400
your child.
I'm going to say you and your

803
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,680
child, you know your nephew, but
to commit to you and your child.

804
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,120
Just like Judith and RJ are
Darrell's children.

805
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:45,360
And to ignore his family that
you didn't even get bothered to

806
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,880
even understand because you know
you have.

807
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:54,760
I don't know this purpose, this,
whatever, however really.

808
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,800
Like Laura is the only person
who's even asked him about

809
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,760
people back home.
Yeah.

810
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,280
And.
Prayed.

811
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,640
For them, yeah, so and then you
got a villain that you saying

812
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,440
it's not a villain because they
trying to help friends and

813
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,960
stuff.
No, you not, because you

814
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,840
creating things that's going to
get out of hand and kill all of

815
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,920
humanity at some point.
Yeah, that part.

816
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,080
Yeah, that part.
But I would leave Darrell alone,

817
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,320
though, because seriously, he is
fucking up my plans.

818
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,120
So I just was like, that's just
some, you know, some people just

819
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,960
let go.
Just let them go.

820
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,160
Yeah, yeah.
Help them get home, right?

821
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,680
Help them.
Right.

822
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,600
But you know, Casey, and I was
saying this in the last episode

823
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,800
because I was like, how is it
that Codrone still has a job?

824
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,160
Because he keeps promising Madam
Janay that he's gonna get there

825
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,320
or he's gonna get there and then
he doesn't get him.

826
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,960
And then this episode, he
literally got the drop on Daryl

827
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,960
after they had escaped and
everything.

828
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,400
He had the drop on him.
He had Isabel, he had Sylvie, he

829
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,480
had Laurent.
You you had them all there.

830
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,080
You could have just killed Daryl
and and just been done with it

831
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,560
if that's what you really wanted
to do.

832
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:15,640
But I I don't know if it was
watching him fight in the pit or

833
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,640
if it was something to do with
Laurent.

834
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,920
The something changed Codrone's
mind, you know, to the point

835
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,400
where he was like, I can't do
this because when the other

836
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,080
soldiers were saying, OK, yeah,
you need to go ahead and kill

837
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,560
him.
Meaning Laurent, he couldn't

838
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,960
bring himself to do it and he
even had the opportunity to kill

839
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,520
Darrell.
Darrell was like, look, I'll go

840
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,840
with you.
Just let them go free.

841
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,080
And that was my question.
Cause by the time he got back to

842
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,200
Madam Janet and she questioned
them, she's.

843
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,040
Like, oh, you got out without a
scratch.

844
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,520
He took him so quick he folded
like a chair.

845
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,040
Like, yeah, well, I, I couldn't
kill him, so 'cause she was

846
00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:00,080
like, you killed my men.
And he folded like immediately.

847
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,200
But you know what?
She may have had somebody who

848
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:08,040
who reported back and a person
in his position and the type of

849
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,360
person he is, he does not seem
to me like the type of person

850
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,560
who would try to lie to cover
something up or who would try to

851
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,120
save his ass.
He'd be like, oh, was she?

852
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,640
She knew it.
OK, what the fuck is she going

853
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,960
to do?
I mean, because at this point,

854
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,840
what I mean, he already knows
what's coming.

855
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,960
Might as well just be up front
and be like, yeah, I screwed you

856
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,160
over and.
But he kind of know that's not

857
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,040
going to end welfare.
And he does.

858
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,240
But either way it goes, even if
he had lied to her, that was not

859
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:40,880
going to end well for him.
And he not he's smart enough to

860
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,440
know that.
Why even go back?

861
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,840
Because you were going, you were
going to try to sell that lie,

862
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,760
But when she looked you in the
eyes and said, I can tell a liar

863
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,520
by looking in their eyes, he
already knew.

864
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,840
Yeah, that was the only thing
that threw me.

865
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,720
Like, you ain't waste no time?
She asked.

866
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:01,720
You, You ain't him.
You ain't how you fuck.

867
00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:07,720
Yeah, basically I did it.
OK, right.

868
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,320
And they?
Don't even let it get you no

869
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,160
water first you you when you
need a drink you need not like

870
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,240
you just spilled the beans.
I was like what?

871
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:19,360
I didn't like that part.
Because I.

872
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,840
Didn't like that.
Part she because he's been since

873
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,160
he's been with her, he's been
loyal to her, right?

874
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,640
And I think he really got to the
point where he was like, OK,

875
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,760
maybe if he goes back, you know,
he figured out where the nest

876
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,520
was or he he told them he was
like, oh, the monster Michelle.

877
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,120
So that's about a two days walk
that way.

878
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,840
All right.
And it was like, basically he

879
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,560
was telling them, I'm giving you
a head start, but just know that

880
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,920
I know where you're going.
And I have a feeling that maybe

881
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,720
once he came back, regrouped,
got his self together, he

882
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:02,880
probably would have gone to the
nest, did what he needed to do.

883
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,200
Maybe not kill Laurent.
I think he would have killed

884
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,120
Darryl.
But I think something about

885
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,080
giving him orders to kill a
child, I think maybe was

886
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,440
probably too much for him.
Because at first, Madam Janay

887
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,880
didn't want Laurent.
Did she wanted Laurent to work

888
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,600
with?
Her.

889
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,880
To turn everybody towards her
cause.

890
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,960
So I think that probably messed
with his conscience, especially

891
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,920
if you're thinking from the the
perspective of this is a man who

892
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,320
had a younger brother who had
someone that he protected.

893
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,520
He probably looked at Laurent
and was like, I can't do this.

894
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,840
This is not this is not what I
was meant to do.

895
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,160
His whole thing in in all of
that was to get revenge on Daryl

896
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:53,440
for killing his brother.
Right, so but and then part of

897
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:59,280
me was looking OK, so like when
he was in the pit and he was

898
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,760
like now you die for killing my
brother, whatever.

899
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,680
The way Daryl was looking, he
looked at him back like, 'cause

900
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,280
you could tell, but there was
kind of like.

901
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,280
There was like what the fuck you
talking about?

902
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,480
And so I think that's what
that's what makes me think that

903
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,080
he turned a little bit at that
moment, 'cause he was like, this

904
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,800
is for my brother.
And when Darrell looked at him,

905
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:24,720
he looked and he was like, OK,
And then you know, something,

906
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,720
something in him was like, you
don't even know what the fuck

907
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:31,520
I'm talking about.
Yeah, I mean, could be, yeah.

908
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:37,480
But I, I think when he went
back, he could have easily

909
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,320
played that if Madame Janay had
fallen for, you know, the lie

910
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,160
that he had told they, you know,
we were outnumbered.

911
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,080
We got ambushed, this, that and
the other.

912
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,040
If she had actually believed
him, he could have gone back

913
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,800
out, taken the nest, gotten the
run, killed Daryl.

914
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,440
And then he would have been a
hero to her.

915
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:05,000
He would have been important to
her, but once she's already

916
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,120
looking at you without in
suspicion.

917
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:12,800
Madam Janae, for for all of her
faults, and she has many, she

918
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,120
does not suffer fools.
We have seen that with her.

919
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:23,040
She knew that dude was lying as
soon as he walked in and he knew

920
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:28,480
that she knew he was lying.
And again, he doesn't seem like

921
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:34,800
the type of person that would
just pussyfoot his way out of

922
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,880
it.
He was just like, oh, she know,

923
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,120
OK, whatever.
But you saw she asked him about

924
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:40,720
the nest.
Yeah.

925
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,400
Yeah, but you saw what?
She asked him about the nest.

926
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,840
He was like, I don't know what
you're talking about.

927
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,080
She know he lied about that too,
which is going to make things

928
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,240
worse for him.
But then that makes me wonder.

929
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,640
Why?
Why?

930
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,720
Why right?
Why not all the things?

931
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,800
Motive, right?
Yeah, I guess I don't understand

932
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,160
the motive cause at this point,
right?

933
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:05,880
What's the point?
Right.

934
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,680
Like why are you all of a sudden
protecting them?

935
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,560
From one interaction on the side
of a truck.

936
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,880
Right.
And then even when you was on

937
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,880
the side of the truck, you
notice he didn't even mention

938
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,640
nothing about his brother.
Was he believed he believed

939
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,080
that.
Look.

940
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,000
Well, what are you?
Doing I believe part I, I

941
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,320
believe a lot of it may have to
do with Laurent.

942
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,760
I think it's gotten to where he
is starting to believe the hype

943
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,760
about Laurent.
And then when he's getting ready

944
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,720
to shoot Laurent and Laurent was
just like, God loves you.

945
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,880
That was a complete term for
him, so you have to think he's

946
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,520
probably feeling a little
guilty.

947
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:51,760
I mean, he did literally stab
Isabel all the way through her

948
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,000
her shoulder, so he probably had
a little guilt about that, too.

949
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:04,960
But yeah, it almost seems very
sudden as far as his change of

950
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,160
heart.
Yes, and maybe if we had a

951
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,080
reasoning, maybe that's what it
is, 'cause you ain't give us no

952
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,720
reason they're gonna.
Give it to us in Season 2,

953
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:15,520
probably.
But I'm just saying, yeah,

954
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,080
that's makes it, that makes it
feel real.

955
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:23,520
Like the fuck was that, right?
This great reversal with no

956
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,360
explanation, right?
And no lead up to me, no way.

957
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,480
Yeah, right.
'Cause that's why I was like

958
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,280
when he told her, yeah, that was
like, well, what?

959
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,280
Like you didn't, you don't.
Normally they drag shit out.

960
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,560
No, they didn't drag that one
out.

961
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,240
Yeah, OK.
Yeah, I I did it.

962
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,360
He doesn't seem like it.
Again, he does not seem like

963
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:48,280
that type 'cause I mean, he
literally when she said that to

964
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:53,240
him, he looked at her, he took
her cigarette lighter out of her

965
00:56:53,240 --> 00:57:00,520
hand, lit the cigarette light.
And I mean, he basically it, it

966
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,600
was the same type of attitude
Daryl had in the death pitch.

967
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,080
That was a fuck you moment to
her.

968
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:13,480
I, I don't know what caused it,
but I mean, I'm grateful because

969
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:18,880
right now that means Laurent and
company are safe in the Mont

970
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,720
Saint Michelle.
At least for now at least.

971
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:28,400
For now.
So I don't know, but like you

972
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,640
said, it's it's not going to
work out good for him at all.

973
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,880
He's not.
I mean, I would not be surprised

974
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,000
if she makes him into one one of
her little walkers, but she's

975
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,760
going to try to get that
information from him first, so.

976
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,640
I don't see him giving it up.
I don't either, because if

977
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:51,880
you've gone this far and you I
see the right and you're

978
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:57,360
probably given the fact that you
are trained by the military over

979
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,400
there, you probably can resist a
little bit of torture.

980
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,240
So that's not going to be, Yeah,
probably the next time we see

981
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,920
him, he's going to be either
close to dead or he's going to

982
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,880
be one of those walkers.
She's stealing.

983
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,560
No, he's not going to be a
Walker yet, is it?

984
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,160
He may go into turn into a
Walker, but I don't.

985
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,440
Think so, Yeah, 'cause we need
an explanation, correct?

986
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:26,640
We just make him a Walker with
no instant, with no clarity on

987
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,440
that whole situation.
That would be stupid to say.

988
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:34,880
So I I I mean, I don't even know
what to say about Codrome

989
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:42,560
because like I said, he was so
singularly focused the entire

990
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,000
season about getting the
American, getting the person who

991
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,480
killed his brother, and for him
to have that kind of check.

992
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,000
Yeah, I I think Laurent may have
something to do with it.

993
00:58:53,040 --> 00:59:02,240
I think maybe once, once she
started losing the crowd, OK,

994
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:07,040
not just because of the walkers
fighting Daryl and Quinn and

995
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:12,560
Daryl and Quinn winning, but you
also had remember, Falou, Sylvie

996
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,720
and Emil kind of snuck in there
with everybody else.

997
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:23,440
And when Daryl and Quinn finish
killing all of the walkers,

998
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,800
Madam Janae is basically like,
OK, you know what, let's get

999
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,160
this over it.
She's telling her men to shoot

1000
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,480
Daryl and Quinn, but before they
can get a shot off.

1001
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,920
But Lou has his gun out.
He shoots and puts that.

1002
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,960
When I say he put that gun up so
fast and continue walking out

1003
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,480
with everybody else, I was like,
you know what?

1004
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,480
But Lou is that dude.
Yeah, yeah.

1005
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,760
He is that dude.
But maybe that was enough for

1006
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,560
Cadrone to be like, OK, maybe
she don't have it quite as

1007
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,760
locked down as we think she does
or she wants us to think she

1008
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,120
does.
You just lost all your walkers.

1009
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:07,320
It's obvious your your little
serum that you're using for them

1010
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:12,240
is not 100% yet because I mean,
you literally shoot one of the

1011
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,560
walkers and his head explodes
because he can't handle the

1012
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,000
serum.
So maybe he's just sitting

1013
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,920
there.
What is it?

1014
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,920
We always say he's reading the
room.

1015
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:27,800
He's like, I think I'm in the
wrong room because.

1016
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,680
Other than that.
That very well could be that

1017
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,800
that that very well could be.
But they need to give us an

1018
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,520
explanation.
I for me, I need the reasoning.

1019
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:47,040
Like I get it and I'm sure at
some point if he ain't a Walker

1020
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,240
by next season, we'll get it.
But I hope they give it, they

1021
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,160
give us that before they just
move on with that storyline.

1022
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,080
Like I I need to know what why
did you have a change of heart?

1023
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,080
Right.
That's probably the only thing

1024
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,200
from this episode that I'm
unclear about.

1025
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,560
Everything else was kind of
yeah, I enjoyed it.

1026
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,240
I I didn't dislike it as much as
Michelle.

1027
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,000
I enjoyed it.
I just didn't like that one

1028
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,880
open-ended thing.
Well, I just.

1029
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:20,800
Said I totally just like it had
really no purpose really.

1030
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,200
There was just things that they
just did for us to get ready for

1031
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,800
Season 2.
I feel like I, I feel like in a

1032
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:34,520
way it was kind of.
And I don't have magic or

1033
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:35,720
something.
It wasn't.

1034
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,240
I guess that's why I don't hate
it.

1035
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,240
It was just like, it was like
it's.

1036
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,960
Almost like, OK, we'll end it
this way just in case we don't

1037
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,200
get renewed.
But if we do get renewed, we're

1038
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,800
not giving everybody like just,
Oh my God, they, they want us

1039
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,200
to.
Be surprised, but at at some

1040
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,600
point we already knew it was
going to be removed, so yeah.

1041
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,400
They did before filming our
last.

1042
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,480
Episode He needed a reason to
stay in France.

1043
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,440
So I think what they did was
because they knew, they kind of

1044
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,160
made it like a mellow episode
because we got so much to tell

1045
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,520
you in Season 2.
We don't throw in these little,

1046
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,680
little small changes for you to
get ready.

1047
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,720
And then they knew they knew
they was introducing Carol

1048
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,960
season 2, which is what
everybody's looking for.

1049
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,640
So but even in that 'cause they
wrapped up the Quinn storyline,

1050
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,800
he gone.
I mean, we still got to figure

1051
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,440
out what happens to Marie.
But you know, for the most part,

1052
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:41,320
that storyline is done.
Her and Laurent making it to the

1053
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,680
nest.
We know that that's a safe haven

1054
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,880
for them.
Darryl's just got to get Laurent

1055
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,200
badass back there.
My.

1056
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,960
Goodness, so I can't go home.
I mean, this kid is holding me

1057
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,560
hostage again, I told.
You.

1058
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,160
That's how he was on the beach.
His head was hanging.

1059
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,280
So that's why I mean, so I'm
going to go back.

1060
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:06,480
I don't hate it, but I just felt
it was anti climatic because I

1061
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,600
think they were like, oh, we got
so much we want to do in season

1062
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:16,240
2, let's just end it on this
note and and move on.

1063
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:21,240
I mean, of course the fight
scene was the greatest, yeah.

1064
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,680
And then that was it for me,
yeah.

1065
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,040
Yeah.
They probably should have had

1066
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,080
that at the end, yeah, because.
Because then we wouldn't have

1067
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,240
Carol being her usual bad ass
self.

1068
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,240
So let's talk about that real
quick, OK?

1069
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,040
OK, Yeah.
Carol ran somebody down on the

1070
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,800
bike.
Random dash.

1071
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,520
Ran them down.
Give me that bike.

1072
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,200
No, first of all, where did you
get that bike?

1073
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,000
Yeah.
Where's the person who you took

1074
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,840
the bike from?
But but you know what, Carol?

1075
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,600
Forever the chameleon.
Yeah, something in the trunk.

1076
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,440
Come look, get your ass in
there.

1077
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,680
I was like.
So the thing that I love about

1078
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:06,480
Carol is one people always
mistake the Gray hair to mean,

1079
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,760
Like she's this old woman who
can't do shit.

1080
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,240
First of all, she's been Gray
for a long time.

1081
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:16,960
Some people go prematurely Gray,
that takes nothing away from

1082
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,480
this person, but just because
y'all want to be ageist or

1083
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:25,120
whatever and decide oh this a
little Gray woman she can't do

1084
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,800
shit.
I'm a boss her.

1085
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,920
Around I'm going to take her
car, I'm going to take whatever

1086
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,640
she got in the truck.
I was like, you know what I

1087
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:37,000
never get tired of seeing,
Especially like the big.

1088
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,360
Burly.
Men underestimate this woman

1089
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,800
because then when she whoops
your ass, you sitting and

1090
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,640
looking confused like how the
hell did I end up tied up in the

1091
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,480
trunk?
Like how did she get me in the

1092
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,840
trunk?
She got your ass out.

1093
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,240
And then she you.
Better be telling the truth.

1094
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,520
And if not?
She was like, 'cause if not like

1095
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,120
if they do something to me.
Gonna be here you just.

1096
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:06,480
Stuck.
Oh I still feel like he gonna be

1097
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,840
stuck even if he was telling the
truth.

1098
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,400
I mean, that's his fault.
You never.

1099
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,000
Gonna go off and forget.
Oh man, that is his way.

1100
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,560
I'm on.
I'm in the middle of the ocean.

1101
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:19,840
I forgot about that man in that
truck.

1102
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,680
Man, I didn't leave that man in
that trunk, didn't I?

1103
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:28,560
She might.
She might send him.

1104
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,680
It won't be an accident, Carol.
At this point, she probably

1105
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,680
don't care.
She's just like, oh, OK, so you

1106
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,280
got my friend's bike, so you had
something to do with whatever

1107
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,080
happened to him.
So if you die, you just die.

1108
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,040
I don't think she can.
You are a means to an end.

1109
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:47,800
I need to figure out where you
got this bike, right?

1110
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,160
Once you tell me where I got the
bike, let me go to that place

1111
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,600
next.
Find who I need.

1112
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,400
Who asks.
I need to whoop right?

1113
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,560
Get what I need, then let me
leave that.

1114
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:56,720
What's the next place I need to
go?

1115
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:57,880
Find who asks.
I need to whoop.

1116
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:59,680
She gonna whoop ass all the way
to Europe.

1117
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,480
I mean, she wouldn't be Carol if
she didn't that part, so.

1118
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,840
But I'm looking forward to the
next season.

1119
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:12,840
I think it's, it's going to be
what this one needed that little

1120
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:19,920
sprinkle it and look, look, the
Salt Bay of Carroll need a

1121
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,640
little bit of that.
And I think it's I, I think the

1122
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:26,080
next season is going to give us
#1 the reunion.

1123
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:31,280
We want it better and hopefully
more concrete and final answers

1124
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:36,840
to like just some of the for me
that that whole storyline on why

1125
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:45,120
you turned and #3 team Connie.
I mean, let that man go back

1126
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,120
home.
Let that man go back home.

1127
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:48,800
He got people who waiting for
him.

1128
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,040
Like he said.
When Laurent asked about his

1129
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:57,400
people, he meant who did he name
specifically, Judith, RJ, Carol

1130
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,680
and Connie.
He didn't name nobody else.

1131
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,920
He named those four people.
And we already know Carol is on

1132
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,880
her way to find him.
I don't, you know, I don't know

1133
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,920
if she's going to make it to
France, but it's Carol.

1134
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,000
It's possible.
We just got to see.

1135
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:16,120
But let that man go home to his
folks and stop trying to push

1136
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,880
this other romance.
We don't want it.

1137
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,080
Nobody asked for it.
Nobody asked for it.

1138
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:29,680
So, you know, other than that,
I, I actually enjoyed this

1139
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,160
season.
I, I like that it was different.

1140
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,560
I like that it took place in a
different area and we had to

1141
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,560
deal with all of these different
new obstacles.

1142
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:49,400
The, the burning the acid
walkers and you know, the, the

1143
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,600
walkers where they, they fused
metal things onto the head so

1144
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,480
that you couldn't just easily
kill them.

1145
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,280
Like y'all are really protecting
these walkers.

1146
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,960
What I I just need to know about
the experiments.

1147
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,760
What exactly are you guys trying
to do?

1148
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:08,640
It is not saving the world, no.
It's it's not in that sense, no.

1149
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,520
You might be trying to save
France by creating weapons.

1150
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,680
I think that's what she's doing.
But obviously you're not looking

1151
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,760
for a cure.
You're looking for something to

1152
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,960
make them more dangerous.
But here's the question.

1153
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,520
So what happens?
Because we've seen how they

1154
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:32,479
react when they get the the
injections proposed to control

1155
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:38,600
them.
That's my question because at

1156
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:45,840
least at least with World Beyond
and the what was it Doctor image

1157
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:53,880
Emerson episode of Tails.
You saw them doing experiments

1158
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:58,600
to try to see how much of the
brain activity remained of the

1159
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,560
human.
You saw them trying to detect

1160
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,720
migration patterns, so they were
trying to use the zombie brains

1161
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,200
to figure stuff out.
What are you going to do with

1162
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,800
this?
Like what is your end game?

1163
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,399
What is your you know, we I'm
sorry we still never figured out

1164
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,760
or they have never referenced
again.

1165
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,359
Remember the Walker that shot
herself at the end and got up

1166
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:22,680
and ran to her?
We we still haven't heard a

1167
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,520
reference to that.
I I'm kind of wondering if we

1168
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,040
will get that reference or
something about that in this

1169
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,520
show.
Maybe not.

1170
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,319
Of course, obviously we didn't
get in the first season.

1171
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,800
Maybe we'll get it in the second
season and maybe that was what

1172
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,800
started all of this for Madam
Janay.

1173
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,840
Who knows?
But you can't throw that.

1174
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,840
You can't throw that bone out
there and expect us not to be

1175
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,760
like, OK, y'all going, y'all
going to tell us something?

1176
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,400
Because again, that woman
clearly knew she was a zombie at

1177
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,320
that point.
She clearly knew she was a

1178
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:02,240
Walker and she panicked.
So something of the brain has to

1179
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,120
exist.
Maybe it's just for people who

1180
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,560
are more educated, that sort of
thing, I don't know.

1181
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,840
But.
Yeah, they, there's some

1182
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:18,480
questions that they are going to
have to answer with this show

1183
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,240
and I'm hoping they'll do it in
the second season.

1184
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:23,880
We don't know what the second
season is going to be about

1185
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,400
aside from Carol going to find
out.

1186
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,240
They've already announced the
third season.

1187
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,440
They've already started filming
the third season.

1188
01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:36,680
I think they're probably halfway
through the third season.

1189
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:42,160
And I have seen a mention that I
believe there will be a fourth

1190
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,800
season and that may be the final
season, but don't quote me on

1191
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,440
that.
So it's just kind of like, OK,

1192
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:52,720
if y'all are doing this, that
means that there was not going

1193
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:57,120
home anytime soon or he's taking
Izzy and Laurent with him.

1194
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,720
And that's going to be a whole
different thing.

1195
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:04,160
Because if you're not, if you're
not in France doing this whole

1196
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,280
thing with Laurent where he's
the savior, he's the Messiah,

1197
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,760
whatever.
That's however that storyline

1198
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,880
finishes.
If y'all are going to Four

1199
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:19,040
Seasons, either that proved not
true or y'all you you taking

1200
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:27,400
them back to America.
So I don't know but.

1201
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,840
It'll be and he's and the point
that they take them back to

1202
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:35,120
America would have to make it
where it coincides and aligns

1203
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:40,440
with the ones that live, or at
least after that has ended.

1204
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,680
Yeah.
But that that means it would

1205
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:49,800
definitely add on.
It would definitely add on a few

1206
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,000
years.
Because if we're going by the

1207
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:59,120
information Quinn provided in
this show about the 12 years,

1208
01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:03,000
that means, like I said in last
episode, that means Laurent has

1209
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:09,080
to be, he had to have been 11
when we met him, or maybe just

1210
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,680
turning 12, because it could
have been the later part of 12

1211
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,080
years that Quinn was talking
about.

1212
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:18,600
We we don't know, But so an
estimation, Laurent was 11 or 12

1213
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:23,440
when we met him.
This is probably been maybe a

1214
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:27,680
few months over, you know, the
course of season 1 has probably

1215
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,560
been over a few months.
So he could still be in that 12

1216
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,520
year old range or could be
thirteen.

1217
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:40,480
Did did we have a birthday
celebration for him in this

1218
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,240
show?
I.

1219
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:47,120
Yeah, like somebody mentioned in
a birthday, I couldn't remember.

1220
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,400
I thought I I thought I saw
that, but I might have just been

1221
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:51,680
thinking about something else.
But I don't.

1222
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:56,600
Think so?
OK, so, OK, so it says, I'm

1223
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,560
sorry, I Googled it.
OK, it says how long after The

1224
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,560
Walking Dead is Darrell Dixon?
He said.

1225
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,360
Now, we're only two, two or
three months after the end of

1226
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:08,400
The Walking Dead, so this is
still within the timeline of the

1227
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,480
show, the original.
Show ending but that makes no

1228
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:17,400
sense if Quinn says 12 years
that he had to wait 12 years to

1229
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,840
give Izzy that necklace that
doesn't vibe because The Walking

1230
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,520
Dead show.
Cause see it says how much time

1231
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,800
is passing The Walking Dead?
Approximately 13 1/2 years.

1232
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,040
Yeah.
That, that sounds right.

1233
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,480
That's the total time.
So then it's been 13 1/2 years,

1234
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:44,200
but Darrell Dixon started two to
three months after the events in

1235
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,800
the Commonwealth.
So then that means Quinn's math

1236
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,040
was wrong.
Yes.

1237
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,880
OK, that that would make a
little more sense because

1238
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,880
Laurent being an 11 or a 12 year
old, that just doesn't vibe as

1239
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:05,760
far as not just what he knows.
I mean, that kind of it would

1240
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,280
explain what Michelle says about
him being emotionally stunted at

1241
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:15,240
around 9-10 years old.
But he's big for that age, which

1242
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,800
means I don't think he could be
younger than that because even

1243
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:24,000
if he's been isolated and
protected and hasn't, you know,

1244
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,560
we don't know, he may not have
been exposed to a lot of sun,

1245
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,880
not gotten a lot of sunlight.
When you stay cooped up and in a

1246
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,760
house all the time without fresh
air and stuff, you're it, it's

1247
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,440
not your growth.
So yeah, that probably makes a

1248
01:14:38,440 --> 01:14:41,280
little more sense that he would
be a little bit older.

1249
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:47,000
But then that definitely means
that it's it's not Rick and

1250
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,600
Michonne that Carol was talking
about on the walkie-talkie.

1251
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,720
That's that's a definite van.
Yeah, got to.

1252
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,680
I'm a sticky morning.
They just gonna have to reunite

1253
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,960
in in season 2 and she's just
gonna have to tell him who who

1254
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,360
it is so that we can all be
satisfied.

1255
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,600
And then she can be like, OK, I
came over here to get you.

1256
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,720
Bring your ass home.
Let's go.

1257
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,960
Let's go.
You got folks.

1258
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,920
I know a guy who know a guy who
know a guy who got a boat.

1259
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:22,640
You know so.
Yeah, let's get in this boat.

1260
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:29,720
So I guess we just need to start
on Season 2 now.

1261
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:35,520
Yes, I'm excited.
Y'all have any final?

1262
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,360
Thoughts.
We better get some answers in

1263
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,320
the first episode.
They better do.

1264
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:47,040
They better do first episode
Booker Carol the way they did

1265
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,600
first episode, the ones who live
and she better find them right

1266
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,640
when she get there, like she
better open the door and be

1267
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,800
like, oh, I'm in France.
I don't think it's going to be,

1268
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,120
I think.
I don't think it's going to be

1269
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,560
season, I think.
Because I think.

1270
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,040
Season, I think mid season, like
they're going to get close, but

1271
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,560
the issues are going to have
them separated, but they're

1272
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,880
going to be parallel a little
bit and it will be mid season.

1273
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,320
Like when they run right into
each other.

1274
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,880
I feel like it's mid season.
You think it'd be accidental on

1275
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:21,120
purpose Accidental.
Probably accidental, no, I mean

1276
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:22,840
just knowing them it'll
probably.

1277
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,960
Be Yeah, like it's accidental,
but I.

1278
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,840
Think I think that would make
more sense because for the Rick

1279
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:33,680
and Michonne show, that show
literally was we need that

1280
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,080
reunion.
We need to see the payoff for

1281
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:41,520
Michonne leaving her children
and we need to know exactly how

1282
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,640
how that story ends.
So them giving us the reunion in

1283
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,280
the first episode and then kind
of going back and forth between

1284
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,760
present time and past, that
worked perfectly for this show.

1285
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,800
I think this show might be a
little bit different.

1286
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,480
Yes, we've had some flashbacks
as far as what Darryl is

1287
01:16:59,480 --> 01:17:04,120
thinking, but I think one of the
things that's interesting about

1288
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:09,960
Carol and Darryl's relationship
is they've spent as much time

1289
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:16,240
apart as they have together.
Whether it's because of

1290
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:21,200
circumstance, it's because of
arguments and disagreements, you

1291
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,680
know, them kind of not speaking
to each other.

1292
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:29,200
I think it makes more sense for
us to not see them together

1293
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,760
immediately.
Give me some Carol.

1294
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,040
Everybody wants to see Carol.
They want to see what Carol's

1295
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,760
going to do to get to Darrell.
That's going to be half the fun.

1296
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,920
I don't need to see them reunite
in the first episode.

1297
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:46,080
Get give it a couple of episodes
to kind of simmer and let's see

1298
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,280
what Carol is about to get into
'cause you know she's about to

1299
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,240
get into.
Some right and I think the the

1300
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,920
shit she gets into is going to
again be parallel.

1301
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,120
That kind of bumps them into
each other.

1302
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:06,560
And so, so that's what I feel
overall, I again did enjoy this

1303
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,960
so much better again than Dead
City.

1304
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:16,640
It was caretaking in the writing
and the pacing.

1305
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:21,200
Pacing could have been a little
bit more faster just to take

1306
01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:26,120
just just just a little bit.
But again, like I said before,

1307
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,720
Darryl's on vacation, you know
how it goes a little slow and

1308
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,680
leisure when you're on vacation,
the urgency is not there.

1309
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,320
OK, so there's a lot of
questions.

1310
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,600
They put a lot of questions out
that definitely need to be

1311
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:46,240
answered in season 2.
You gave us a lot you because

1312
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,960
it's a world building your world
building because we're

1313
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,560
international now.
But however, I need you to now

1314
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,600
like start answering these
questions of things that we saw

1315
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,720
and and things that were put
into place, right.

1316
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:04,400
So we're all good.
So if season 2 is Book of Carol

1317
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:09,240
is what season 3 is, we are
family, I mean.

1318
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,280
The Book of Laurie.
Nope.

1319
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,240
No, I'm, I'm.
No, he doesn't get a book.

1320
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,000
It's a book of reunion.
It's called.

1321
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,880
It's going to be called Book at
Home.

1322
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:26,840
Let's go.
Bookit.com, I mean.

1323
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:30,560
Book a flight.
That notes that is it for our

1324
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,320
show.
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1325
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,240
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1326
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,040
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1327
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,560
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1328
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,080
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1329
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,240
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1330
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,080
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