The Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon: The Book of Carol S2E1 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #311

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Casey and Michelle.
Everybody's here and everybody's

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back.
Yay.

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Hello, hello.
We're discussing the Season 2

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premiere of The Daryl Dixon
Show, in which Carol manages to

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uphold tradition by bringing
someone's destruction within 24

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hours of me.
Clearly wasted no time.

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None.
None at all.

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Oh goodness.
OK, let's start 'cause I have a

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lot to say about this episode.
Do we want to start with the

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France stuff first or do we want
to start with the state side

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stuff first?
Where do we want to go, Darryl?

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Wait, I say let's start with
Darryl and we eat with Carol.

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Yeah, let's get Darryl.
Let's just go ahead and get that

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out the way.
Gonna go ahead and get Darryl

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out the way, OK?
All right, so following up on

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the season 1 finale, we know
that Daryl was this close to

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making it on a boat to coming
home.

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And of course, Laurent showed up
at the last minute.

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Oh, happy go lucky this like,
yes, I know you're trying to go

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home and I'm about to ruin it,
but OK.

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So Daryl obviously comes back
with Laurent.

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It's now been about two weeks,
according to what Daryl has

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said, he's been trying to train
the one on how to kill the

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walkers and everything.
But let me tell you again, and

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we said this in the last
episode, the thing that bothers

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me about these people at the
Nest, good intentions and all,

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what they keep trying to do is
at least in the first season,

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they kept pushing the whole
thing of Daryl, oh, you should

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stay here.
You know, maybe there's a place

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for you here.
Maybe this is where you're

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supposed to be, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.

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We really need you.
Laurent has never had anybody

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with your kind of influence.
OK, so y'all convinced this boy

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to stay and now that he's
staying and he's doing the

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things that he's good at doing
and that he thinks he needs to

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be there doing, now y'all want
to try to tell him that he don't

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need to be doing this?
Oh, you're, you're you're

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distracting Laurent.
Laurent is meant for greater

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things and he shouldn't be
learning about violence and

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this.
And exactly what I said when

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that was happening, this is some
bullshit.

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That boy needs to learn how to
survive.

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We just talked about he's not
trained, he doesn't know what

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he's doing.
He off exploring the world and

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not realizing that this danger
I'm all for.

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We gonna have we get back to the
regular society.

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We're gonna get education.
We're gonna go back to middle

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school, high school, university.
I get all of that learning about

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history of the world, I give it,
but you need to look outside

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your window.
If that shit comes crashing down

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right will y'all be?
I feel bad 'cause those people

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in that building will not make
it.

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The fathers die and they are
toast.

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He needs to learn how to fight
and survive.

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It's too violent.
Violent violence.

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Pulling out your intestines,
That's violent because you don't

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know how to fight back.
OK, I'm done.

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That's all right.
Because even Darrell was like,

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so that's more important.
You know, it's more important

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that he stay alive, right?
Right.

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Right purpose.
Is it to be alive, to be here,

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to be what you need me to be if
I'm?

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Right, you can find a balance.
You can he needs to train

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because he has never been
trained.

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He he will.
He was taught that they had a

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soul and they need to don't kill
him.

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But he realized that's not
working.

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He needs to learn how to to make
it right because if y'all go on

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the field trip and they run into
some walkers, what y'all gonna

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do?
Like one person can't protect

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the whole herd of people because
y'all feel like it's too beneath

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you to learn how to fight back.
And I, I really, I really feel

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like they're just, it's
interesting because that whole

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movement has been about one
thing, like preserving humanity,

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bringing back the human race and
all this other stuff.

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So I understand on on some level
wanting to have that mindset,

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but I think also you guys have
been in the mindset Michelle too

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long and you've had very little
exposure to walkers except for

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those who actually go out.
But other than that, you guys

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are on this.
Basically, it's like an island,

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you know, it's very
inaccessible.

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If the tide is in, you can't get
to it except by boat.

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And then when the tide is out,
like who really is going out

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there?
No, it it it just they take

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their circumstances for granted
and they're being very naive

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about it.
Also, you may have a group of

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people who may want to come over
and take over.

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And see, that's the interesting
thing.

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You want to know what's to
protect, right?

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I guess a regular human, but.
This is the interesting thing,

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because if they've been holed up
in the Mont Saint Michelle that

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long, nobody has tried to come
in, infiltrate Like nobody in

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France thought, oh, that's a
great big structure.

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That would be a perfect place
for us to have walls.

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We got they got walls.
You have vantage points, You you

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can literally see all around
because there's no trees.

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It's it's surrounded by water.
So that OK, that would have been

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a perfect setting for like
Padre.

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If you think about it, something
like that, because you literally

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can see everything.
You can't really be taken

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surprised by anything, which is
probably what lends to that

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naivete that they have about Oh
well you know the right doesn't

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need to be learning about this
and no violence and blah blah

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blah.
Do soon as y'all start talking

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like that, that means that at
some point some of y'all about

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to start dying.
But they right and they are too

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far into the apocalypse.
We we 1415 years in.

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They're way too far in for.
People to sit to.

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Get ignorant, touch yourself.
Yeah, right.

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Just to you have to again, have
a balance, some self-defense.

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And he's young, so he needs to
learn how to do it now that

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part.
The same way that the the

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Common, not Commonwealth, the
Alexandria, I was going to get

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it together.
Same way they were trying to

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teach.
Stay young, they'll be able to

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survive.
Yeah, but I mean if you think.

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About this place ain't going to
make it, yeah.

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But you don't think about it.
The Alexandrans weren't doing it

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either.
It wasn't a true reckon them got

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there.
That's true, of course.

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Yeah, 'cause when you say how
many of y'all do I got to kill

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or you realize, But they had a,
a false sense of security too,

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because of the the corral, the
quarry, I mean, where all the

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walkers had happened to be,
right?

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Like y'all, y'all can't believe
that just because nothing

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happened yet that it ain't gonna
happen.

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Right, and be prepared for when
something happens cause 'cause

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like Michelle had nothing,
nothing in place.

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Michelle say Rick's groupies,
they destroy everything.

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Well, to be fair, that one of.
Them show up, just be prepared.

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Well, one of them did show up
and he's there.

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It just will take a little
longer for it to be destroyed.

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His name is there, so and now.
He's trying to low key prepare

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because you know, it was it the
last episode or last last

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episode where he had the people
on top and they was teaching.

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He was trying to teach them how
to load their guns and fire

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their weapons.
Yeah.

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But it it if Lu Sang is just
like, oh, no, we don't want that

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violence.
Yeah.

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I'll go die.
Well, this is this is just how I

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feel about it.
Daryl may not be causing the

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chaos right now.
I mean, he did 'cause some chaos

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with Madam Janae stuff, but
truth be told, she deserved it

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and her people deserved it.
But if Daryl needs to be

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preparing them for anything
right now, he needs to be

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preparing them for, for Carol,
'cause once Carol get to France,

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I'm sorry, everything is
everything is just done.

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Everything.
Everything is just done so but

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anyway, we're not going to talk
about Carolyn yet because that's

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a lot but OK, going back to
going back to Darren, going back

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to France.
So we find out towards the

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beginning again, this is 2 weeks
after Daryl's, you know,

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attempts to go home have been
thwarted.

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And in that time, Madam Janae's
forces have captured some of the

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rebels, including Falou and
Emil.

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So of course Sylvie and Isabel
are worried because they're

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like, these are the people who
helped us get here.

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Like we have to do something.
Lo saying is he's exercising

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caution, saying, yes, we're
going to go do something, but we

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have to be careful because we
have to make sure that we're not

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found out, you know?
But dad was like, look, if

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Matthew Janae hangs them, she's
going to torture them for

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information, and then she's
going to kill him if she can't

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get anything from them, like he
even says, I don't think they

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would give us up.
So in that case, she's going to

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kill them, Yeah.
She ain't gonna waste no time.

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Right.
And at this point, you know, you

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start seeing like a little bit
of that dynamic between Losang

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and Daryl because Daryl clearly
knows what the fuck he is doing

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out here in this world.
I'm not going to say Losang

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doesn't because I'm sure he is
aware of the danger, but I don't

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think he has the first
experience like Daryl does.

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So it's like when you're
listening to them talk, it's

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like I I hear low saying, I hear
him trying to hold on to

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humanity, trying to hold on to,
you know, following a certain

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path.
And I'm like, Boo, this is not

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this is not going to work at.
And you know, we make the joke

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all the time about Rick and his
people coming in and destroying

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places.
But truth be told, they're not

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the ones who are destroying the
places, it's just the fact that

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they're the ones that's opening
up everybody else's eyes because

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y'all haven't been dealing with
this stuff.

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So the minute y'all have to deal
with this, yes, y'all are going

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to end up losing more people and
things are going to be more

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catastrophic because you don't
know how to deal with this shit.

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Yep, if we really look at it in
that way.

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The variety of what Darryl has
gone through, you got, let's go

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from the beginning until this
point.

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So a different type of people.
We got people eating you, you

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know what I'm saying?
We have territorial people,

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territorial people, people
wearing masks, people wearing.

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Masks of the Dead.
To right Oh well that right

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there they will not even
understand how that even was

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horrible.
Then the government trying to a

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small little two man government
trying to take over everyone

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Commonwealth.
You know, they have experience

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in that and you've been in your
little castle and like, oh it,

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you know, we're just going to
carry on with school.

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We don't need really everyone
learning how to.

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Fight waiting for the for the
Messiah to come and save the

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song.
Well, I'm going to tell you

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something.
Messiah knows how to fight, so

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you better train a little boy if
he is he's.

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Not he needs to.
Because Remember, Remember at

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the I meant it had to be the
season finale when it was the

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dream sequence that Darrell was
in when he was trying to catch

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Laron and Laron was in the
middle of all the walkers and

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was just like this.
Praying.

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Uh huh, that's.
Literally what the people of the

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Nessa believe.
That's their vision.

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Oh, he won't be harmed.
No harm will come to him because

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he is the one who who's here to
save us.

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Right.
So walkers, you know, they, they

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he's immune, basically.
Yeah.

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OK.
OK, OK, let's get a Walker and

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see if we're walking on by him.
Because that's right, if he was

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immune, those walkers in the
beginning that he had to kill

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wouldn't have been trying to get
him right?

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And he wouldn't have been scared
him.

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Or even let's go back a little
bit further when he was in Paris

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and he went to the Eiffel Tower,
like if he was immune in that

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sense.
And again, I'm going back, we

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referenced World War Z like a
few weeks ago.

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I think we were talking about
this and we may have been

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talking about something else,
but remember World War Z, those

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zombies kind of went past people
who had been sick or people who

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had like cancer or that kind of,
you know, it was almost like it.

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It covered them in the same way
that it shielded them, in the

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same way like Michelle's walkers
did, you know?

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So it's kind of like when you
look at Daryl's dream that he

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had about Laurent back then,
you're wondering, is that the

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same thing like with the walkers
really walk past him what we've

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seen since then?
No, that's not the case.

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The walkers will go straight for
him.

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I mean, he was hiding up under
something and one of the walkers

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got down on his knees and tried
to get to him, right?

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But obviously he's not invisible
to them.

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So I don't know.
It's kind of like what you said,

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Michelle, how, how are you going
to test this theory of him

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saving the world?
Like what is he supposed to do?

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Is he supposed to be a cure?
Is he supposed to be immune?

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Both.
How are you going to do that?

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How are you going to test that?
I, I really feel like if we're

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going that route, I feel like
it's more of they need to get

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him to a researcher, medical
researcher.

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It's more what could be in his
blood, right?

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But I mean, but that's.
In the perfect world.

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Well, I mean, it could be in
this world too, if they still

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have researchers active in
Paris.

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I mean, again, they do go back
to world beyond.

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They do.
They own that ship and they

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doing some other stuff.
I'm just saying most of those.

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People on the ship or are.
They they probably some other

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researchers.
Yeah, they're probably some

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other ones.
But they, they on the wrong

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side.
Yeah, they on the wrong side

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though.
But then also, like in World

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Beyond, we had those researchers
and Dr. Bennett, and was it Iris

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of Hope, Hope, hope?
They were, they stayed behind.

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They're still trying to work on
a cure or trying to work on, you

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know, a vaccine or something
that will keep the change from

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happening.
But it's like we hadn't seen a

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plethora of researchers.
We've seen doctors.

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Yes, Doctor Emerson, I'm gonna
go back to him and tells we saw

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him.
But again, he's way off in an

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isolated part of the world, too.
So it's like all these people

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who may be able to do something,
they're not in the same spot

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together.
So it's like you really don't

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have many options as far as
testing this theory out.

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And again, going back to our
discussion from the last

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episode.
So what's the theory?

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What are we doing with Lauren?
Because they still haven't

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really said aside from he's the
Messiah, he's going to save

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everyone.
Y'all still ain't explained to

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us how this is going to happen,
which worries me because again,

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going back to The Last of Us,
the way that y'all were going to

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use Ellie to save the world was
you were going to kill her and

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then take what was, you know, in
her brain and in her brain stem

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and use that to, I don't know,
mass inoculate everyone,

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whatever.
But that that wouldn't have

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worked out well for her.
She would have been dead if it

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wasn't for Joel stepping in.
So is that going to be a similar

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situation with Laurent?
Are they going to try to kill

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Laurent to do this or are they
going to, like you said,

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Michelle exposed him to
something and then what?

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Dad was going to have to go in
and save him.

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And it's just, it's too much
right now that we still don't

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know.
And we're now 7 episodes into

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this whole show.
We really don't know what the

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next purpose is.
And I'm going to be honest,

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watching this particular episode
to not trust no Sang.

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I'm not saying I feel like he is
being deceptive, but there's

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something that I feel like is
not being said, especially with

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his, I guess that's his
assistant because she's the one

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who keeps saying something about
we need to do the ceremony.

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He's like, no, he's not ready
for the ceremony.

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What ceremony are y'all talking
about?

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What y'all doing?
What what What are y'all doing?

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I'm scared.
You probably should be.

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Yeah, it's time to go when you
talk about some ceremony with

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this ceremony.
Right, especially in apocalyptic

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or?
Right.

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Yeah, You know, it's.
Topian landscapes, that's never

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a good thing.
But aside from the nest.

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OK, so Daryl, I guess, finally
convinces Lo, saying that, hey,

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we need to go ahead and do what
we need to do to rescue our

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people 'cause it's not just for
Lou and Emil.

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I think there are some people
from the nest that have also

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been captured.
So Daryl does lead a group of

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people to try to intercept the
transport with Falou and Emil

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and I.
I'm trying not to be skeptic,

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but the fact that Daryl planned
something and it didn't go the

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way that it was supposed to
until later, like with that

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little explosion that didn't
happen.

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And then of course, some people
did end up getting killed

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because they had to shoot out,
even though the goal was not to

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kill anybody.
But one, it makes me feel like

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something like, I don't know,
something about that whole

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situation is not right.
And then two Madam Janae is

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there.
Why are you hesitating to kill

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this bitch you have?
He wasn't.

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He was he was reloading his gun.
He.

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No, he was hesitating too slow.
He was.

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He was.
I'm sorry.

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She's like Casey.
Yeah, she.

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And she is not a young chicken
to be moving that fast.

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So he was moving slow.
Especially being injured, she

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was.
Injured.

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I'm so sorry, yeah.
Daryl, Daryl lifted the gun up

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and was just looking at her
while she was doing her little,

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her little villain monologue.
Whatever, Daryl, anybody else

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Daryl would have lifted up that
gun and shot them immediately.

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But I I don't know because you
yourself told LO saying she's

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not going to stop and y'all
already know she's not going to

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stop until she gets Laurent.
Why would you hesitate?

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You just should have shot her.
I'm I'm confused.

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You could have been.
You could have been done with.

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All of this, Look, it's show
over.

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Right.
Like, oh hey, guess what, Madam

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Janae is dead.
Laurent doesn't have to run for

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his life anymore.
Be safe.

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Yeah, Yes.
And I'm sitting here looking at

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it in the background.
She's sitting here talking to

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him, leaning up against that gas
thing, and he's looking at her.

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He reaches slowly into his
pocket, he reloads, and then he

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does the gun like this before
taking aim.

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Dude, you could have killed her
56789 times by now and now you

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hesitate.
And why you hesitate?

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The explosion finally goes off
in the back.

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You turn around and look and
she's gone.

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I'm like.
He was trying.

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No, he would, Darryl.
Does not have to try.

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Darryl has done this 1,000,001
times.

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Yeah, there is no, if it was
somebody else, I would been like

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oh, OK, but.
You know better, right?

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Yes, it could have ended there.
It could have.

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But we all know that there has
to be a point where we need them

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for something else.
So I get it.

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Yes, we could have killed her
and been over, but then the show

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would be over.
No 'cause we should have known.

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OK, OK, say he killed her.
There's other villains, say he

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killed.
So say he killed her, then what?

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Then what?
Why, man?

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Well, 'cause I was gonna say we
didn't see Quadrone in this

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episode, so we don't know where
he is.

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I mean, I know Madam Janet had
him taken off, you know,

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whatever.
But.

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He could have the likelihood
that he's still around on her

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good side.
It's very low.

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I was gonna say.
He could have talked, 'cause he

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killed her man, he killed her
man and then lied to her.

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Yeah, or attempted to lie.
Yeah.

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He finally told the truth.
Yeah, and told it all.

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So he ain't on her good side.
I we just gonna take him out the

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picture.
Who's left cause Quinn dead now.

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What would what would be the
point?

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It would just then become the
ones that live where where Carol

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is just trying to find Darryl.
Right, gotcha, right 'cause it

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only threat at this point is the
walkers cause no, and nobody

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else is really looking for
Darryl.

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Janay is the only one who was
like the American, the American,

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the American.
But but at this point, even if

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oh boy got lose, you're gonna
fuck me up.

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You know he fucked up somewhere.
Yeah, yeah.

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In the dungeon in, you know,
growing a beard like he been

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there for 10 years, you know,
you know, he probably oh, you,

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you know what I'm saying?
When when they throw you, throw

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you away to keep you.
I mean, put you in the dungeon,

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throw away to keep.
Yeah.

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So he if in the the the weird
world that we live in, Daryl

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ends up saving him.
OK, so now you.

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Know that you know that's
probably going to happen because

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he let them that's.
What I'm saying in this weird,

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weird world because he cause see
he already saved him when he did

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when he killed all the men.
So now turn about his fair play.

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Now Darrell got to save his ass.
And I get that.

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I guess, I guess the other
question I have is, do we really

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think Madam Janay is working on
her own?

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Because if you think about it,
this is a huge, huge operation

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that she has trying to re, you
know, reunify, trying to reunify

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France and having this big
military in a time of chaos.

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You know, it would have been
easier, I think, had it been the

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older times, had it been regular
times and there was more of more

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of a system set in place, more
accountability.

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But she is one woman with all of
these people.

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Do you really think she is
working on her own?

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Because I mean, think about it,
just like in The World Beyond,

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when we thought that what's her
name, Elizabeth, we thought she

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was the head honcho and then
turns out, Oh no, there was

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somebody else bigger, you know?
I mean, there's always somebody

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else bigger.
Always.

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So that's my question.
Like OK, so who is The Who is

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the next big bad above Benjana?
Because if Daryl had killed her,

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I don't think it would have
ended there because she does

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still have people that are loyal
to her who probably would have

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been like, oh, we really got to
go find him now?

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Or would there have been
somebody else who would have

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been like, oh, OK.
Oh, well, you know what?

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Marie, no, I don't think she has
that much power.

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But I'm just saying.
But I mean, I'm just saying

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like, if you think about it, she
was Quinn's girlfriend.

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So she might have some people
who were working for him who

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might be loyal to her.
And especially now that Quinn is

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dead.
I'm just I'm just throwing some

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stuff out there because I'm
trying to, I'm trying to think

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of where this can go because
again, we already know the show

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has been renewed for Season 3.
They're currently filming.

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There are rumors that they have
been renewed for season 4.

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So I'm just thinking this whole
Madam Janae thing.

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Like one thing we have learned
about the villains in The

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Walking Dead world, they rarely
last more.

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Than two seasons, right?
So it has to be, it's going to

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be someone, it'll be something
else that they get into, right?

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Yeah, so.
'Cause you really don't know.

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We know Madam Janay, but we
don't know if she's also having

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issues with someone else.
And that was.

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You don't see that side because
it's not her perspective, it's

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just her dealing with Darrell
and this group.

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But she could be going to war
with someone else and then

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that's the bigger bad.
That's who we fear.

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Because other than that, like,
you know.

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Or some scientists gone mad and
another group they encounter

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thinking they're going to help
Laurent and like it end up being

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the Last of Us and they trying
to kill him.

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00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,760
You know, they all sweet and
stuff like, oh, we'll take care

448
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,360
of him.
This is school so great.

449
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,880
And turned out to be an issue.
Yeah.

450
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,360
But they got to be somebody
really big and bad because we

451
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:25,240
got to be Carol involved, you
know?

452
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,880
However, Carol can be big and
bad as just being a housewife

453
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,240
baking cookies so she don't have
to be fighting.

454
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,920
Right, but we all know that
Carol don't play, especially

455
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,360
when it come to her family and
her friends.

456
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,040
Right.
He's not about to play about

457
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,440
Daryl.
Yeah.

458
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,280
And if she gets to the point
where she couldn't, you know,

459
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,840
gets in in in contact with not
contact, but, you know, a

460
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,320
proximity to Janae and she
figures out.

461
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,240
Oh, you looking for the
American, my friend?

462
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,160
You looking for my friend?
Yeah, you.

463
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,120
Know Carol gonna be sweet and
nice and like, Oh yes, but you

464
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:07,240
already know Carol is ruthless.
Yeah.

465
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,320
And you know what, that's going
to be a situation where it

466
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,120
really is going to be
interesting because if if Carol

467
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,360
ends up in France, which we
already see, like towards the

468
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,240
end of this episode, she is well
on her way.

469
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,120
OK, so let's say she does make
it to France.

470
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,240
Let's say in all of that, like
France is a huge country.

471
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Let's say she gets wind of where
Daryl is.

472
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,320
I mean, if you think about it,
one, we don't see a lot of

473
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,760
people in France to begin with.
You don't see you hardly see

474
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,640
walkers at all.
Like even when they're just

475
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,880
traipsing through the
countryside, barely any walkers.

476
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,400
So for her to pick up any clues
about where he is, that's going

477
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,480
to be hard enough.
But if she starts asking

478
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,240
questions and the people around
there already know about Daryl's

479
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,200
reputation, the American, the
American, You mean to tell me

480
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,160
1415 years into the apocalypse
and we have not one, but just,

481
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,200
but two Americans just pop up in
France, You know, they're going

482
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,400
to tie them together because
that's too much of a

483
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,280
coincidence.
So I think if that were to

484
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:24,320
happen and Carol does meet up
with Madam Janae, once Madam

485
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,960
Janae realizes she's American,
that's automatically going to be

486
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,600
suspicious to her.
I don't know if Carol will be

487
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,840
able to pull off the, you know,
the ignorant happy housewife,

488
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,080
like, oh, I'm just here.
I don't.

489
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,120
Know who's gonna hold it?
I'm just the regular American on

490
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,480
vacation and then.
Cuz where you come from?

491
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,080
That part.
Where?

492
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,440
Where did you come from?
And if she uses the same excuse

493
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,240
that she told Ash, the guy that
she meets in this episode, oh,

494
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,120
I'm looking for my daughter.
My daughter was here at the

495
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,760
1415.
You just not coming to look for

496
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,040
her.
OK, so now we talk about kids.

497
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,240
We can go in.
We don't come about to care.

498
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,760
But I'm just saying it doesn't.
It's not going to make sense.

499
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,560
She's going to have to, I think
at this point, Carol is going to

500
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,120
have to, she's going to have to
be like Terminus Carol.

501
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,440
It's, there's not going to be
any, you know, I'm going to come

502
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,560
confront you directly and, and
play this particular role in

503
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,840
order to find out what I need.
No, she's going to have to come

504
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,720
in there and be stealthy.
Yeah, because when she can be

505
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,040
like she has, she has, she can
be.

506
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,600
But OK.
I'm.

507
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:42,560
Just let's let's go into Carol.
Let's go into Carol because when

508
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,120
we see her in the last, the last
episode of the first season,

509
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,680
she's looking for Daryl because
we know that she and Daryl have

510
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,040
been in contact via radio
before.

511
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,840
Daryl got shipped off to France,
so she already knows that he's

512
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,560
in Maine.
OK, She has a starting point.

513
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,720
She can probably pinpoint where
the radio transmission came

514
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,160
from, or she can just start
asking questions about the type

515
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,400
of people Daryl may have been
around or a guy on a motorcycle,

516
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,440
whatever.
But The thing is, Carol already

517
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,120
has found the motorcycle because
there's a guy riding it and she

518
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,080
runs him down at the end of the
last, you know, the last

519
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,840
episode, she finds out where he
got it.

520
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,560
And then she takes the bike.
She locks this dude in the trunk

521
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,680
of the car that she's in.
She takes off.

522
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,440
So we pick up.
What's the question?

523
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,800
The.
Sign when?

524
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,520
Did not say she was in Freeport,
OK.

525
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,920
OK, so I.
Just wanted to make sure 'cause

526
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,480
I said wait a minute.
I had that issue with the last

527
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:53,200
episode, too, because when she's
when she's chasing Mick down in

528
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,480
the car, he's actually headed in
the direction where you see the

529
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,080
sign that says Freeport.
OK, So when she's asking him the

530
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,200
questions about where he got the
bike, he says, I got it several

531
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:12,200
miles back that way, find the
old gas station and then turn

532
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,400
left.
He was talking about going back

533
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,400
the way that they had just come.
So why did she keep going

534
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,120
forward in the direction she was
chasing him?

535
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,760
But that I mean, maybe that was
just me, but I was like.

536
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,280
Wait, wasn't I'm I'm just I'm
just for reference.

537
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:37,240
Wasn't Freeport where?
I can't think his name Curly

538
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,560
Curly from Dead City was wasn't
he in Freeport?

539
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,400
What was the name of their city?
'Cause.

540
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,400
Remember they had a sign too.
That's what it made.

541
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,440
Maybe I'm.
No, because theirs was theirs

542
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,080
was different.
I could have sworn it was

543
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,040
Freeport.
Oh Lord, you should have made me

544
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,720
go back 'cause I can't think
back that far.

545
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,160
That was what, a year ago?
Google.

546
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,760
Is our friend.
OK, so why you're why you're

547
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,840
Googling that?
So Carol goes.

548
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:20,520
She takes the bike back to the
the place where Dara was and she

549
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:26,480
does play her little I'm I'm
stupid type personality there,

550
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,600
which it works with them because
again, and Casey and I talked

551
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:37,680
about this, you're looking at a
a lady who you know by all by

552
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,760
surface looks, you're you're
automatically assuming that

553
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,880
she's older because she's got
the Gray hair.

554
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,920
You're assuming that she's
fragile, that she's probably not

555
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,800
mobile, that she's probably not
athletic, that she probably

556
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,640
doesn't know how to really hold
a gun or all that stuff.

557
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:58,000
First of all, if you look at
that little lady, OK, and you

558
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,920
don't see a bad ass, immediately
there's something wrong with you

559
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,040
because this woman is traveling
by herself in a in in the midst

560
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,360
of a zombie apocalypse.
Obviously she knows how to take

561
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,360
care of herself, right?
Or am I?

562
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,600
Or am I just wrong and just?
No, I mean if you seeing a older

563
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,520
lady by herself, I'm just being
knots, right?

564
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:27,000
If you see a older lady, did you
think old and fragile by herself

565
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,679
at this point in time?
How many years we've been in

566
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,440
this?
Do you need to be scared and

567
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,040
technically speaking, because
because this could be a chick

568
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:45,280
who was CIAI don't know.
And let's let's be trained

569
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:51,199
because honestly, I'm I'm not
trying to be mean friends a

570
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:55,440
person by themselves, they would
have been gone long time ago.

571
00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,480
The the weaker, the weaker
people without help was actually

572
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,320
gone quicker than the ones who
could that part fight.

573
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,000
So if she's traveling alone and
she's still alive and she looks

574
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,280
good like she's not looking like
she falling apart, you know what

575
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,040
I'm saying?
Y'all may want to walk away and.

576
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,680
Then if you think about Carol,
OK, we're saying this, this

577
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,240
apocalypse has gone on maybe
between 12 and 15 years at this

578
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:29,000
point, right?
So when we first met Carol, she

579
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:37,560
was probably, I would say maybe
mid to late 30s, OK, because

580
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:43,440
Sophia was 12, right?
She, she was probably, if you,

581
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,760
if you think about the type,
just kind of the way that Carol

582
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,000
has described her upbringing and
the way things were with Ed,

583
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,960
just in the little bits and
pieces that we've picked up

584
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,720
through the years.
Carol probably was one of those

585
00:35:55,720 --> 00:36:02,720
people who basically the, the
way their family told them their

586
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:06,520
goals in life were was to get
married, have a child, blah,

587
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,600
blah, blah.
And that was the kind of the way

588
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,200
Ed treated her as well, right?
Like, oh, you're you're you're

589
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,000
my housewife.
You're supposed to do whatever.

590
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,840
So you got to kind of maybe
think Carol got married in her

591
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,880
early 20s, OK, Right.
So that would make her about

592
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,840
maybe mid 30s when we meet her,
which means technically

593
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,440
speaking, during this time,
she's still not even 50.

594
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,360
So she still ain't old.
I mean, think about it.

595
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,440
All of us here are in our late
40s.

596
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,120
We're not old.
We just don't quote UN quote

597
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,000
look it because we're not full
of Gray.

598
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,960
She went Gray a long time ago,
but a lot of people go

599
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,040
prematurely Gray.
You know, I have a cousin who

600
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,360
went.
She started off Gray so.

601
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,720
Well, she was kind of like a
dirty blonde.

602
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:59,520
First of all, stress friends.
We.

603
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,960
May have a hair full of Gray if
we were that stressed.

604
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,440
And you, you know, you living on
the edge.

605
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,480
Right.
But but I'm saying all that to

606
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,640
say, because this is a discourse
I see a lot online when it comes

607
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:19,920
to Carol, because you do have
these super Uber like Carol fans

608
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,280
who are like so defensive about
her and everything.

609
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,160
And, you know, they, there are
people out there who really

610
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:33,000
think that people are like
targeting Carol or even Melissa

611
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,200
McBride because of because of
their age, because, you know,

612
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,760
that's one of the reasons why
they won't put her together with

613
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,840
Daryl or blah, blah, blah.
I don't think, I really don't

614
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,280
think it has anything to do with
that because again, whose

615
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:52,440
character is not that old?
If she is we all old because

616
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,840
we're all right around that same
age.

617
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,800
She may be within a few few
years of us, but the point is

618
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,400
people look at the Gray hair and
they automatically make

619
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,360
assumptions.
And I think that's the problem

620
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,960
with these guys that she ends up
coming across because they're

621
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,680
looking at her like, oh, she's
not going to do anything.

622
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,600
Oh, you mixed old lady.
Oh, and she's like, huh, Like

623
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,200
she didn't even answer the
question and.

624
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,920
That's what I'm saying.
Like you're dumb again, because

625
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,880
this little old lady is by
herself.

626
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,960
She's not ragged.
She's not bloody like I need

627
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,040
some help.
Like she's straight walking and

628
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,880
you just automatically assume.
And look at the way she's.

629
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,760
Dressed right, you need to be
afraid.

630
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:41,000
Because honestly, I mean, come
on now, let's take you.

631
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,200
We can take a vote here.
We'll know how long we will

632
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,840
survive in the apocalypse.
Not long.

633
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,920
Look, I need to be taken care
of.

634
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,960
We already talked about that,
OK?

635
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,200
They say Carol is 25 when the
show started.

636
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,040
OK, so she's 25.
Fuck, she's that means she's

637
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,520
just barely 40 now.
OK.

638
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:08,480
So, yeah, so even more so, even
more so I'm glad that you that

639
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,400
you found that because I saw
something somewhere where they

640
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,880
were like Carol's supposed to be
like in her 50s or 60s.

641
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,040
I was like, Melissa McBride is
not even that.

642
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,640
Like right, like he's putting I
don't understand.

643
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,800
Yeah but y'all don't understand
what stress do to you.

644
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,200
Yeah, but it doesn't happen, you
know what I'm saying?

645
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,240
But I'm also saying the as I get
stressed, I got some popping up

646
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,560
on my head right now.
I'm just saying we got to

647
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,080
understand that you can get grey
at any time.

648
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,000
Yeah, and the city was New
Babylon.

649
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,000
I'm sorry.
Yes, that's what it was.

650
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,720
OK, But I I thought there was
something else that Fremont was

651
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:53,040
mentioned.
It might have been it might have

652
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:58,600
been the main show that might
have been where that might have

653
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,120
been where Michonne thought the
saw that the boat had docked,

654
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,320
that Rick might have been on,
but I don't remember.

655
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,800
But I it does sound familiar.
We'll make connections later

656
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,240
because, you know, we'll go off
into the weeds with that.

657
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,360
But anyway, going back to Carol.
OK, So Carol goes to the garage,

658
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,320
put people, she realizes that
they know who Daryl is, that

659
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,440
Daryl's gone.
So of course, she finds a.

660
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:28,480
She finds a crossbow.
And she makes quick work of the

661
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,800
garage people.
She doesn't kill anybody, but

662
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,920
she does break somebody's nose.
She also shoots somebody in the

663
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,280
foot.
And basically it's like, where's

664
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,960
my friend?
They're like, lady, be crazy,

665
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,800
why are you going to call this?
She said.

666
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,160
Certifiable, I said.
At least she know.

667
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,240
But she does.
Somebody pointed out.

668
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,640
Somebody pointed out that's
that's our family.

669
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,800
Because if you think about it,
Michelle asked the same question

670
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,440
to Rick, and Rick asked the same
question to Michelle.

671
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,680
And her, her her response was
also that that, that they were

672
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,560
certifiable.
So yes, it is a family trait.

673
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,360
Yeah.
But my thing is this woman that

674
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,720
already broke, you know this
little old lady has already

675
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:18,800
broken your boy's nose.
Why you going to call her crazy

676
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,440
when she got a fucking crossbow
in her hand?

677
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,760
She has already shown y'all that
she is not scared to fight.

678
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,720
Just tell her what she want to
know and let her go please.

679
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:33,000
Just leave her alone.
They don't see this is this is

680
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,840
something we have been saying.
We told Madam Janae she needs to

681
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,800
leave Darrell alone.
Are we telling these people they

682
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,280
need to leave Carol alone, which
they're not really bothering her

683
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,040
much?
No, yeah, they're not.

684
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,280
Yeah, they they're.
Just not giving her the

685
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,880
information she needs.
She's like, look.

686
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,320
Right.
So basically they was not

687
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,600
bothering her and she came into
play.

688
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,360
Thank you.
Well, they bothered her.

689
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,120
Friend me with her hands up,
talking.

690
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,840
About Oh, I'm a friendly.
I'm a friendly.

691
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,080
However, at least she told them
about their friend in the trunk.

692
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,440
This is true.
This is about an hour worth of

693
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,000
air.
Maybe.

694
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,840
Give or take.
Maybe.

695
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,400
But did you see the look on her
face where they told her he was

696
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,160
going to France?
She was like France.

697
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,040
She was like, stop playing.
They were like, no, for real.

698
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,400
They come.
They come over here and they're

699
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,040
looking for American walkers.
We didn't ask too many

700
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,960
questions.
Look, this is the first time

701
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,360
we've seen a boat in years.
They came over and asked us for

702
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,720
stuff.
We look, they gave us the and

703
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:42,280
you know what, they could have
been the one providing the gas.

704
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,960
So, you know, they were like,
yeah, he on a boat.

705
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,600
But we already know at this
point people have figured out

706
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,960
ways to make gas.
Yeah, like at at this point we

707
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,240
already know they figured it
out.

708
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,320
Yeah, they probably got a
cornfield growing somewhere,

709
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,120
swear to God.
But when Carol goes to the

710
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,200
shipyard to look for, you know,
clues, the shipyard is pretty

711
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,960
abandoned.
And it's also pretty washed out,

712
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,920
so it's obvious that Shep
couldn't have docked there, they

713
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,240
had to have docked somewhere
else.

714
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,480
No, they, they put a doctor, but
she, they also said it was a

715
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,400
long time ago.
And you, you have to think the

716
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,440
ship can be in deep water and,
you know, they have little ships

717
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,760
to come because Darrell escaped
on the little ship.

718
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,360
I mean little ship, a little
boat.

719
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,080
So they, they can be, you know,
far out enough into the water

720
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:38,680
where they have a transport that
goes back and forth, 'cause, you

721
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,120
know, they have to transport to,
for some kind of way.

722
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,400
They wouldn't just, you know
what I'm saying?

723
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,680
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, so that I can see this leads

724
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,360
to Carol going for a drive
because while she's at the

725
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,080
boatyard, she sees the airplane
in the air.

726
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,000
And she gets an idea.
And she gets an idea like wait.

727
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,760
I didn't think she saw at the
boatyard.

728
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,800
I saw while she was driving, not
at the boatyard.

729
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,680
That wasn't the first what what?
She was standing somewhere when

730
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,200
she said oh.
Yeah, she was standing.

731
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,080
That was after she crashed the
car.

732
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,960
Yeah, OK.
Yeah.

733
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,320
So yeah, but that's next though.
She saw the plane and she came

734
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,000
up with the idea.
She was.

735
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,400
Driving the car that she stole
from the from the the junk guys

736
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,560
and she runs the car into
something.

737
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,880
So now she's got to walk and she
decides to follow the direction

738
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,040
that this plane is gone.
So what she does is she finds a

739
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:43,800
house fenced up electric fence
very looks very well protected,

740
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:50,040
has traps for the walkers and
she thought she puts herself in

741
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,480
the trap.
She starts saying help.

742
00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:02,400
Yeah, I said OK, Carol.
When I say I hollered, I said

743
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,720
OK.
I really thought I was like, I

744
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:10,840
was like, OK.
But not but not tell you the MVP

745
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:17,160
of the apocalypse.
It's Carol if we have a montage

746
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,240
and award ceremony from the
beginning to now.

747
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,960
It turns that helpless on like.
It like it's nothing.

748
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,120
Like a light switch.
And just quick on your feet,

749
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,680
like let me just put myself in
this trap.

750
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,640
Right.
You don't even know what type of

751
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,680
person it.
Is exact and that's what I was

752
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,440
thinking she's like.
I don't care.

753
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,200
Yeah, 'cause I'll kill him and I
fly to pain myself.

754
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,040
I read a book.
I mean, that's how she.

755
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,080
She ain't got done but time.
Nothing but time well, no 'cause

756
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,840
she doesn't know what kind of
danger Daryl is is in, so she

757
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,960
may not have that kind of time,
but she.

758
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,760
Ain't done what type of danger
you've been in for this amount

759
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,560
of time.
We just now figuring out the

760
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,560
handbrands so she she wouldn't
have known that.

761
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:05,520
Yeah, yeah, but anyway, so the
guy who owns the house, it does

762
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,160
invite her in.
She, you know, she's telling him

763
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,280
that her car broke down and she
needs a new radiator and he's

764
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,680
very nice office to let her stay
overnight.

765
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,040
And I, I'm gonna tell you, I was
really waiting for the shoe to

766
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,360
drop all episode.
I was waiting for this dude to

767
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,840
die.
I did not think he was going to

768
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,160
make it to the next episode.
And I think you can, I can fault

769
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,600
the ones who live for that
because I think they traumatized

770
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,840
me.
You know, they introduced us to

771
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,400
someone that might be kind of
likable and then they they die.

772
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,760
So I wasn't expecting Ash to
kind of stick around for the

773
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:48,800
entire episode, especially the
next day when when we kind of

774
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:54,400
realized that this man has been
living on his own for a while.

775
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,760
He had a son who looked to be, I
think he said he was six years

776
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,480
old.
The son died.

777
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,280
You don't really hear how, but
it's it's almost assumed that a

778
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,240
Walker killed him.
At least that's that's the gist

779
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:11,440
that I got.
So he has this greenhouse where

780
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,320
he grows his vegetables and he
grows, you know, other stuff.

781
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,320
And he has a basically like a
shrine to his son in this

782
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,520
greenhouse.
But of course, Carol doesn't

783
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,400
know this at first.
She just realizes that, you

784
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,680
know, he has an alarm on his
watch that goes off and he like,

785
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,800
rushes to this greenhouse, but
it's kept under lock just like

786
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,480
the rest of the compound is.
OK, Now, this is not your

787
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,000
business.
It's not it's it's never, it's

788
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:46,160
never the business.
But the way Carol gets herself

789
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:54,160
in with this guy is because they
they bond over lost children,

790
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,680
but not in the way that we
think.

791
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:03,520
Now First off, he decided to let
Carol sleep in his barn.

792
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,600
And when he gets ready to open
the doors, Carol has this

793
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,920
flashback to the memory of
Sophia coming out of the barn.

794
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:19,120
And when I say I had been
spoiled about this before the

795
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,280
show aired, I knew that it was
going to that she was going to

796
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,600
have to not necessarily come to
A reckoning, but she was going

797
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,720
to be dealing with some undealt
with emotions in regards to

798
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:34,800
Sophia.
So I knew it was coming, but it

799
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,040
still hit me so hard when the
scene actually aired because you

800
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:45,000
see her looking back on the past
and they're using the flashback

801
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,000
clips from the original show,
but then they're also

802
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,200
interspersing them with Carol's
present moment.

803
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:57,000
So you see her in her present
situation with, you know, the

804
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,160
background behind her, but then
you see Sophia come to her in

805
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,560
that present.
And I was just like OK what are

806
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,920
we doing?
What the fuck is going on and

807
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,080
why are y'all trying to make me
cry in the first episode right?

808
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,400
And.
I did not.

809
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,400
I thought she like, I knew she
was going to talk about Sophia,

810
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:20,840
but I did not suspect that she
would talk about her like, oh

811
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,680
she and friends with her daddy.
Well, that part and so so for

812
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,720
me, there's a disc, to be honest
with you, there's a disconnect

813
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:35,120
of her and the flashbacks and
and her line about it.

814
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,720
I just kind of feel like it was
touching to see, but it was more

815
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:45,360
just for people who didn't know
so that when she told this lie

816
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,520
they'd be like oh this shit,
this is a deep lie.

817
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,000
Who's not gonna who?
Who is watching this show that

818
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,920
doesn't know that?
That doesn't know the history?

819
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,000
You have you do have some people
who started off at the end,

820
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,760
towards the end.
The Walking Dead is watching

821
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,400
these shows now who didn't watch
the beginning.

822
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,000
But what?
But but what I'm trying to say

823
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,600
is like, or they may have
forgotten, but we needed to

824
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,560
establish her life because I'm
going to tell you something

825
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,360
about Carol.
Now.

826
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:15,640
Carol ain't like Carol to me is
almost like I can't think of her

827
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,920
name right now.
However, Carol has processed

828
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,120
this.
Carol has already had

829
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,000
flashbacks.
Carol can easily walk into a

830
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,720
barn and is not going to be
thinking about her daughter.

831
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,280
So it's really there for us.
I don't think it was there for

832
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,480
Carol.
You think so?

833
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:41,240
I think so now if you had it
more of when she was looking at

834
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,400
the guys things and she thought
back to both her kids 'cause she

835
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,440
did feel like the other boy was
her kid too, I would have been

836
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,200
OK with that.
You don't understand what I'm

837
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,920
saying.
But just her walking to the barn

838
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,240
Cause at first I thought shit is
this the barn?

839
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:58,120
But no we buy the walk.
Wait a second.

840
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,600
Like that's the only thing that
would make me think she trigger,

841
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,080
right?
That trigger that would be if we

842
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:09,960
were on the farmhouse again and
she like thinking back to it,

843
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,040
right?
But really, this was for us.

844
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,480
I I'm just gonna be completely
honest.

845
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:17,080
I don't think she would have
thought about it.

846
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,360
She would have walked in.
I thought she would be more

847
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,360
thinking about her kid when that
man was talking about his.

848
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,960
And when she thought about her,
she was like, you know what?

849
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,680
This is my way in.
Now I do feel that.

850
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,600
I do.
I do feel that, and you know

851
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,960
what, what you're saying I think
does make sense as well because

852
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,240
I don't think this is the first
time Carol has seen a barn since

853
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:51,600
then like she had to.
She has to have a counter barn,

854
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,480
yes.
What, didn't they take shelter

855
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,880
in a barn during that tornado
right before they met Aaron?

856
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,760
That was a barn.
Right.

857
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,800
And that she would run into
kids.

858
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,200
But that was.
Different.

859
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,800
Walkers and she would still have
run into kids and walkers that

860
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,600
would made her think of her
baby.

861
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,800
So that's why I'll say this
would be better if it was.

862
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,960
I think it was still been better
if she when she was reminiscing

863
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,040
when she's touching the man's
items.

864
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,160
Yeah, about his child.
But this was again, I think it

865
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:29,800
was more the tie in to we need
to know her big lie.

866
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,640
Just case you forget well.
Who again?

867
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,760
This heifer's lied.
This heifer's lied about her

868
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:41,360
child being alive.
But I just feel like anybody who

869
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,720
knows Carol's character, even if
I.

870
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:49,400
Know but come on Carol.
Casual fan of the show but but

871
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,560
not everyone can be a Carol.
Has a Carol lover.

872
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,600
You don't have to be a Carol
lover to to know what happened.

873
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,080
I know Hanukkah but some people
literally when I talk people did

874
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,920
not start towards to the end.
So they do not know like details

875
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,400
like that.
And I guess that's what that.

876
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,000
Because that never brought up
right.

877
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,920
If they say somebody, kid, they
may bring up what's that boy's

878
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:14,960
name?
I can't even think of his name.

879
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,360
Henry.
Henry.

880
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,400
And forget about her, Her baby.
And I guess that's just the

881
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:27,240
thing that kind of confuses me
because just the way that I view

882
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:31,960
TV, like I already know you can
spin offs are based on the

883
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,840
characters from an original
show.

884
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,480
And even if I don't go back and
watch that original show, I'm

885
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,760
going to do some kind of
research on these characters to

886
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,240
see if this is something I even
want to pay attention to.

887
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,920
But we talk about this all the
time, even on the other podcast

888
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,560
and the other two guys.
You do.

889
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,880
And there's some viewers are not
US type of viewers that consume

890
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,720
it.
I mean, be honest.

891
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:57,560
Like there's not a lot of
people.

892
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,680
You watch something and then you
go on YouTube to research it.

893
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,480
That's me.
You make sure when you watch

894
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,280
something, you know about all
the characters.

895
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,520
You know what I'm saying?
Like people aren't just casual.

896
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,160
They watch it and they're like,
OK, and then they move on.

897
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,240
But they did.
Because if she was invested,

898
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,360
what was her baby's name again
anyway?

899
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,200
Sophia.
So when she's sitting there

900
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,640
talking to him and said, oh, my,
my daughter Sophia, some people

901
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,880
be like, oh, she making this up?
Does she have a daughter?

902
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,360
And we're thinking, oh, man, she
never spoken Sophia's name.

903
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,120
Long time.
But to gather our emotions, they

904
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:39,640
had to play the scene before she
told the biggest lie.

905
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,960
I guess, but you.
Have to keep in mind, OK, just

906
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,320
this this my little thought on
it.

907
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,440
Yes, she's been in Barnes
before.

908
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:53,400
Yes, she's been around kids
before all all that, but keep in

909
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:58,960
mind all of that is when we have
everybody else who is in our

910
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,360
community.
Now I'm out on the road with

911
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,400
nothing but me and my thoughts.
So of course your thought is I'm

912
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:10,960
trying to get to my friend.
Yes, now that I'm searching for

913
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,120
my friend, my friend who helped
me get through this situation

914
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:19,280
where I did lose my daughter.
So now I'm out on the search for

915
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,160
this friend.
So now there are going to be

916
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,400
certain things that spark like,
oh, damn.

917
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,640
Even when she saw the Cherokee
Rose, she was like, you know

918
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,560
what I mean?
These are things that tie her

919
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,320
and Darrell together.
So now that it's strictly just

920
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,800
her, she don't have the luxury
of everybody else in the

921
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,120
community.
I'm on this road, I'm on my own,

922
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,360
you know, I met this new guy.
But these are things that oh

923
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:50,160
shit, I have to stay within my
mind frame of reality that this

924
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:54,000
is my friend who I'm looking for
and these things are the reasons

925
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,360
why I'm looking for him.
This is how this became my best

926
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,960
friend.
Right, so right, so we can do we

927
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,840
should have a montage of their
friendship.

928
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,440
And I and I.
And that's part of it.

929
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,040
That would be but still.
But but I think that's when

930
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,160
you're touching his things with
his kids, right?

931
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,840
That, that's what.
I'm trying to say because you

932
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,200
have her thing, like you said,
she hasn't talked about Sophia

933
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,560
in a long time, hasn't thought
about her, whatever.

934
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,920
And you have her doing this even
before she knows about Ash's

935
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,480
son.
So in that sense, the timing is

936
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,600
weird because I think if she
would have found out about him

937
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,480
and his son first, like when she
asked him about, you know, his

938
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,760
son.
Oh, yeah, I have a son, but he's

939
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,600
not around anymore.
However that conversation

940
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,920
happened, I can't remember if at
that point then she had the

941
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,480
flashback about Sophia.
That to me would have made a

942
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,800
little more sense.
And then for her to follow it up

943
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,680
with the big lie, I would have
been like, oh, OK, yeah, that

944
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,160
was she figured it out.
That's her way in.

945
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,800
But to do it in reverse because
she had the flashback about

946
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,000
Sophia before she found out
about his son, Right?

947
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:09,520
Right.
Yeah.

948
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,920
Right.
So, yeah, so that's what I was

949
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,440
saying.
Like it makes sense when you

950
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,040
look, you're holding a kids
things that someone's been like

951
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,560
memorializing and it makes her
think of the teddy bear that

952
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:25,600
Sophia had and then it brought
her to Sophia has a baby Sophia

953
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,360
with the Tay bear and then
Sophia coming out of that barn.

954
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,520
I would totally get that.
Yeah.

955
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,160
Now, yeah.
We want to build on Carol and

956
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,680
hit her relationship, Dale's
relationship.

957
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,280
I need flashbacks of them
together.

958
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,040
Not when her daughter dies.
So, I mean, that's two separate

959
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,320
things.
However, I can see that her mind

960
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,240
is open because she's listening
to, you know, the life coach in

961
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,680
the car.
Right.

962
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,080
So she, you know, a little open
to to start thinking about her

963
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,240
life, but that's what I'm
saying, like she should have it

964
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,960
to the IT would have made sense
to when she touched those

965
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:02,320
things, even after he told her
about the kid, when touched

966
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,160
those things, you start thinking
about your kid and their things

967
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,480
and how the apocalypse came and
you lost her and then you got

968
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,880
even gained another son show
hearing too, and then you lost

969
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,200
him, you know.
But here we didn't die.

970
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,040
Now if she come across some
spikes, she may have a

971
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,160
flashback.
You know what?

972
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,320
You know what I can't?
Nah.

973
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,000
But I was going to say, but see,
it wouldn't have made sense for

974
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,280
them to bring Henry up, because
if you bring Henry up, I'm

975
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,280
sorry, you got to bring Lizzie
and Mika up too, and that's way

976
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,000
too heavy.
Well, that wasn't like her kids.

977
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,920
She was protecting them.
Might as well have been.

978
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,440
But it still wasn't like, What
did Henry say?

979
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,840
When he she.
Was like Henry was her son.

980
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,080
I know, yeah.
So that's something totally

981
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,480
different.
That was some kids that was, you

982
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:53,840
know, one of them was fucked up.
But you know, I had to had to

983
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,520
had to fix that.
Right, but.

984
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,680
Because you know.
But she was crazy.

985
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,280
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
She was going to kill Judith.

986
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:04,880
Yeah, that's what I'm totally
saying.

987
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,200
But if they bring.
Him.

988
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,560
That was my, my, that was my
niece.

989
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,120
You know what I'm saying?
That this little girl is about

990
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,200
to kill.
So I had to like, get her

991
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,480
straight.
She had to go.

992
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,000
OK, we won't go there.
She won't.

993
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,240
You got a straight all right
Bullet to the brain.

994
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:24,720
Yeah, she's not gonna, you know,
we, we don't have a flashback on

995
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,560
that and she got to kill another
kid for the same purposes.

996
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,960
OK, so let's go to this story
that Carol tells her new friend

997
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:38,680
Ash about why she needs to go to
France because at first she

998
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,560
doesn't say anything to him
about the plane.

999
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,920
It's all about fixing the car,
making sure the car is OK so she

1000
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,560
can go da da da.
Now, once she finds out he has

1001
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,280
the son, that's when she talks,
start talking about Sophia.

1002
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:55,120
But of course the story that she
that she gives is that Ed, her

1003
00:59:55,120 --> 01:00:01,760
wonderful husband had a brother
or had a relative or somebody,

1004
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,920
somebody's relative.
Was over in France and that's

1005
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,640
where they were visiting right
before everything fell.

1006
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,640
And she was like, OK, I, I just,
I need to go see for myself.

1007
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,600
And he even he adds like after
all this time, like you didn't

1008
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:21,760
try to go before and I was just
like, if this guy falls for

1009
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,200
this.
He fell for it.

1010
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:24,960
He's.
Going to do it.

1011
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,680
'Cause I'm like you too.
This been years, honey.

1012
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:29,640
That girl's dead.
Yeah.

1013
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,640
Right.
But she played on the

1014
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,040
heartstrings.
Or even if, or even if she's not

1015
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,320
dead.
I mean, he even asked that he

1016
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,480
was like, would you be able to
recognize her after all this

1017
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,840
time?
And then she was like, wouldn't

1018
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:50,280
you recognize your after 15
years of not seeing them?

1019
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,760
People can change.
Like yes, some some of them will

1020
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,040
keep their their face is the
same, but some, some kids are

1021
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:02,760
going to change.
I wouldn't even, I'll be honest

1022
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,680
with you.
No, you couldn't tell after all

1023
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:06,960
these years.
Because.

1024
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,400
Because it's it will be
different if you left them when

1025
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:17,480
they were 19 and they're 35.
Sophia was 11.

1026
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,200
That's different because I was
telling someone it's different,

1027
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,760
like when their kids and how
they grow, like they change so

1028
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,760
much 'cause even my kid is a
high school, she's changed from

1029
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,040
which what she was in 9th grade.
So like they, their looks just

1030
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,200
can just be different.
So 15 years.

1031
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,240
Yeah, no.
Like she would literally be an

1032
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,920
adult now.
Right, shaved head.

1033
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,800
Like you couldn't, you wouldn't
even know.

1034
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,160
Like you wouldn't know she like
punk rock.

1035
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,160
You would not have an idea.
Especially over there in France,

1036
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:50,560
you know, they still got.
Right.

1037
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,600
You, you like you.
You you just don't know.

1038
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,320
Right.
But anyway, he he buys this

1039
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:03,880
story, you know, he takes he
takes the plane out for his run,

1040
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,800
his daily run and leaves Carol
there on the farm by herself.

1041
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,840
And his power grid tends to go
out every once in a while.

1042
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,440
So it's every once in a while it
shorts out, which means all the

1043
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,560
locks unlock and everything.
So of course the lock to the

1044
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:27,120
greenhouse opens and she's just
like let me go see what's in

1045
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,520
here before I try to fix this
this electricity.

1046
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:37,120
Now what has happened is the
outside gate has also unlocked

1047
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:43,240
and I guess the walkers decide
to come in and just, you know,

1048
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,600
go exploring which.
Where the hell did walkers come?

1049
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,000
From.
Well, keeping good at this all

1050
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,200
this time.
That the airplane attracts the

1051
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:59,960
noise and then if Carol is
there, I don't know, maybe maybe

1052
01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:03,160
something about there being
another person.

1053
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,800
I don't.
Again, we don't know how the

1054
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,080
walkers brains works.
We don't know how how they sense

1055
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,120
where people are.
You know, we've had this

1056
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,160
conversation about some of the
other shows where, you know,

1057
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,000
somebody can drop a pin over
here and a Walker is going to

1058
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,480
snap their head around and look.
But then you can have somebody

1059
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,920
opening a door right next to a
Walker and they're going to go

1060
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,680
straight past it and not pay
attention.

1061
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,560
So we don't know what draws them
in, but something about this

1062
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,480
farm drew them in.
Maybe it was the hum of the

1063
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,800
electricity on the fence and
when it clicked off, maybe that,

1064
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,440
you know, they realized there
was a difference and they were

1065
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,880
like, oh, let's go investigate.
Whatever the case is, the farm

1066
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,160
gets overrun by walkers while
Carol is in there in the

1067
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,640
greenhouse, being nosy and
looking through, you know,

1068
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,680
ashes, basically his shrine of
his, of his son.

1069
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,560
She gets caught in the
greenhouse.

1070
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,960
She gets trapped and she's
trying to escape.

1071
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,800
And of course, like I said, the
walkers come in the greenhouse

1072
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,360
and start tearing stuff up.
She starts tearing stuff up.

1073
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:12,960
He comes back on the plane and
starts killing the walkers with

1074
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:18,160
a, a, a machine gun.
And he's pissed, rightfully so,

1075
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,920
because he was like, why are you
in here?

1076
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:25,040
And my thing is, you didn't even
have to tell him that you went

1077
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,280
in there to be nosy.
You could have told him the

1078
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,240
power went out.
I was trying to fix it.

1079
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,080
The walkers came in.
I got, I got overwhelmed.

1080
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:40,640
I ran in here for safety.
Yeah, again, if you don't lie,

1081
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,840
make it a believable one.
That would have been more

1082
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,600
believable than my daughter's
been over in France for 15

1083
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:47,600
years.
I'm just going to.

1084
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,960
I'm just not going to go try to
go find her.

1085
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,560
It's plausible.
It's plausible.

1086
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:02,480
Yeah, that one but but.
I wish I could see my face right

1087
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,280
now.
So so is walking into the

1088
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,200
greenhouse because the walkers
are coming to get you because I

1089
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,840
mean all he all she had to do
was tell him that the power went

1090
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,600
out.
I mean it it happened the night

1091
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:12,200
before.
I mean, but he.

1092
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,480
Saw that he saw the powers out.
Yeah, when he came back.

1093
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,360
He did, but she had to put, she
has to play on his emotion

1094
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:25,200
because she could have said her
brother, you know, went over

1095
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,200
there.
She could have said her brother

1096
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,120
went over there to look for
Sophia and I need to go.

1097
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,120
Cry.
And the thing about it is you

1098
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:38,400
can even, you could even tell
the truth but lie and say I'm

1099
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:44,040
really close to my twin brother.
He had went off and I've come to

1100
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,120
find out he was taken by some
people on boats and went to

1101
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,800
France.
But you know he.

1102
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,400
Wouldn't have taken for that.
Yeah.

1103
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,520
OK, so then you throw in, you
still throw in, but you throw in

1104
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,080
the truth of then if you don't
think he will let you go with

1105
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,560
your twin brother, say my
brother and daughter was

1106
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:08,800
together and I found that they.
Were taking because that that's

1107
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,920
the that's the word that's going
to get him to say no, because

1108
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,760
when you say that someone is
taken, that means it's an

1109
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,520
aggressive action.
That means that there's an enemy

1110
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,640
that means that there there's
some kind of, you know,

1111
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,200
animosity.
If this man OK, well, don't say

1112
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,560
taken they got on the boat.
If this man has been living a

1113
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:31,200
peaceful life for the last
12-13, fourteen, 15 years and

1114
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:36,000
you tell him anything that has
to do with any type of oh, I

1115
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,240
might have to be against.
No, he's not.

1116
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,960
He's going to be like, OK,
here's some food.

1117
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,000
He's going to.
Say what that got.

1118
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,560
To do.
But guess what, you still fell

1119
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,200
for it because there's no way
I'm taking her over for a 15

1120
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,200
year old.
Wish you were better off saying

1121
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,560
they did get on a boat.
Like there were some French

1122
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,720
people who came over and and and
asked for volunteers, no?

1123
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,800
He would not.
He wouldn't do it if it was an

1124
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,560
aggressive.
I said volunteers, I could say

1125
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,400
take it.
I said change the word.

1126
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,960
If you violence you, that means
you you went over there on your

1127
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,040
own accord.
I'm.

1128
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,520
Not but they thought they would
come and bail, so we need to

1129
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,360
fly.
Out no, what she did, even

1130
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,160
though it's it's deplorable to
us because I would have just

1131
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,200
been like look who is over there
I need to go find them.

1132
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:28,920
Her using Sophia I think is
going to bite her in the ass

1133
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,960
because when she you know, when
they get over there and there is

1134
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:38,600
no Sophia now, however she's
going to however she's going to

1135
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,400
spend.
That if she does.

1136
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,680
Happen to find Daryl and is able
to kind of relay to him hey I

1137
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,880
told this dude that Sophia was
over here so I need you.

1138
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:52,520
Daryl may not even be with that
right and the the but again.

1139
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,680
You know what?
It's not Carol's fault.

1140
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,000
I don't.
It's not Carol not having her

1141
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,480
back.
It's not Carol's fault.

1142
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,280
It's not.
It is Carol.

1143
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,960
What?
No, he believed it.

1144
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:05,680
Because I'm not taking someone
over.

1145
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,920
There for a 15 year old.
Wish and dream and not in not in

1146
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,680
a plane that I rebuilt.
Myself that, like you said, all

1147
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:17,399
of the good reasons that he told
her we, you have us.

1148
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:22,920
You're trying to get me to fly
overseas in conditions unknown,

1149
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,439
into territory unknown.
We don't know what we're flying

1150
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,880
into, and you don't even know.
If she's.

1151
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:36,200
Alive now that's only way.
The only.

1152
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,600
Reason I can think.
Of that, he might have agreed to

1153
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,640
go.
Is that he needed a change of

1154
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,680
scenery and then I can agree to
that.

1155
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,960
No, because he said.
I have everything I need here

1156
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,000
because.
When she no, but he needed a

1157
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,279
'cause.
He needed something to do.

1158
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:53,920
I think he needed some
companionship.

1159
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,920
Because you can be fine without
people, but then once you're

1160
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:02,080
around someone that might kind
of stir up like, oh, you know, I

1161
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,720
do miss having someone to talk
to.

1162
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,840
I do miss having someone to be
around.

1163
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,760
And this is a he might have even
considered.

1164
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:14,359
It at that point.
I'm pretty sure the very very

1165
01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:18,720
deciding factor was the fact
that it started storming.

1166
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:25,080
Lightning struck his his power
console and now you got walkers

1167
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,479
from everywhere coming onto your
grounds.

1168
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,319
And then because of the
lightning all of the ethanol you

1169
01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:35,640
had in your barn explode.
Thank God you put some in the

1170
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:36,920
plane.
Right.

1171
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,240
Thank God.
Thank look.

1172
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:42,160
Thank goodness that happened
before.

1173
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,240
Or after you put the stuff in
the plane, 'cause then y'all

1174
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,240
wouldn't be going anywhere and
you'd be trapped.

1175
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:56,320
But they get in the plane, they
escaped from the walkers, and

1176
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:00,120
they take off into the golden
sunset.

1177
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,800
And Carol has never flown on the
plane before.

1178
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,280
I was like, you know what?
This whole thing is just so

1179
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:11,480
convoluted 'cause not only are
you getting on a a what is that

1180
01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:15,640
a like a single engine or twin
engine plane for your first

1181
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:20,920
airplane ride during an
apocalypse, going to another

1182
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,920
country not knowing what the
fuck you're like.

1183
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,200
Who comes up with this?
Unbelievable.

1184
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:39,520
I feel so bad she didn't get to.
These fly delta right one good

1185
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,200
time didn't have didn't have the
the luxury stuff.

1186
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:48,960
But no snacks, Nothing.
But I mean.

1187
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,560
But that can show you the
dedication and the love that.

1188
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,800
She has for Darryl because and
the No Fear because you're

1189
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,120
getting on this plane.
We already seen the love and

1190
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,200
dedication.
I know, but this is real love

1191
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:03,880
and.
Dedication.

1192
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:09,200
Because like, you literally
like, you know this plane is

1193
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,920
going to fall apart in the
middle of the ocean, right?

1194
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,400
And you taking off during a
storm.

1195
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,400
I have a question.
Because.

1196
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,800
It's probably not.
The recording she was listening

1197
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,680
to in the cards, the same thing,
he said.

1198
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,040
I was going to ask the same
thing.

1199
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,600
Whether?
Or not that was him.

1200
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,160
I I don't know.
I didn't go.

1201
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,200
I didn't get a chance to go back
and watch it a second time to

1202
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,600
see if there was like a name on
the cassette.

1203
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,520
But when he said it, the fact
that she turned her head and I

1204
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,720
turned my head, I was like,
what's that?

1205
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,560
I watched it like that.
Was you talking on the?

1206
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,920
Text like I mean it wouldn't be
the first time that.

1207
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:57,600
Somebody out in the quote UN
quote wild was a famous person

1208
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,680
because if you remember, Beta
was a country singer.

1209
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,080
We find out.
So I don't know.

1210
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:09,400
It could have been him.
It it sounded it, it kind of

1211
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,640
sounded like it when he said it.
But again, I didn't get a chance

1212
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,360
to go back and rewatch it, so
I'm not sure.

1213
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,440
But it it it, it's possible it
could be him.

1214
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:25,800
Yeah, it definitely gave.
Me him vibes like up right?

1215
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,680
That sounds familiar, which
could also explain.

1216
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,280
That could also.
Explain why he was so at peace

1217
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,760
being.
By himself, without being around

1218
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,520
other people, especially after
he lost his son, he might have

1219
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:46,360
just, you know, had that kind of
mentality to where he processed

1220
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,120
it, he dealt with it.
He was just like, OK, you know

1221
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,560
what?
I'm, I'm good.

1222
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,360
I'm just going to sit here all
by myself.

1223
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,560
I'm not going to worry about
anybody else and and that sort

1224
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,320
of thing.
And then here comes Carol.

1225
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:05,440
And in less than 24 hours, his
whole way of existence is gone.

1226
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:14,080
Like, I would be, I would be
pissed.

1227
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:18,640
Like, yeah, you can have some
compassion for this person and

1228
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,280
her, her story or whatever it
is.

1229
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,560
There was something about that
story that sparked something in

1230
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,440
you to make you say, OK, you
know what?

1231
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,000
I'm going to help you out.
We're going to go on this

1232
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,400
adventure.
We're going to try to find your

1233
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,560
daughter.
But I will also be pissed.

1234
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,960
Because now I.
Don't have a place to come back

1235
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,280
to like the place that I
remembered my my child is gone,

1236
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:51,080
which I guess in an apocalypse
type of getting that might not

1237
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:55,480
be as important because
especially like we see with our

1238
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:57,840
group, they're on the move so
much.

1239
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:02,040
So it's not like, you know, it's
not like they'd be able to go

1240
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:08,840
and, you know, visit Beth's
grave or visit Tyrese's grave or

1241
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:14,200
something like that.
But I mean, hey, you had Luciana

1242
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:18,200
and them go back to where they
buried Nick and dig his body up

1243
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,960
and cremate him.
So I mean.

1244
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,720
That wasn't weird.
We're not.

1245
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,280
Even I I'm sorry, we're not
going to go, we're not going to

1246
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,440
go on to a Fear The Walking Dead
tangent.

1247
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:38,320
I'm just saying, yeah, I just at
least Daryl.

1248
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,240
Got to well.
OK.

1249
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:43,880
Daryl got to.
France and.

1250
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,720
No.
No, I can't even say that

1251
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,640
because he wasn't at Abby, but
but maybe a a a day or two

1252
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,480
before the Abby fell because
Cadrone came looking for him.

1253
01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:58,760
So yeah, I was going to say at
least at least Paris was

1254
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,040
standing.
But you know, Michelle is right.

1255
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,560
Our people show.
Up and shit go to shit all the

1256
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,200
time so.
If that is the case.

1257
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,360
Then that means when Carol gets
to France and meets Madame

1258
01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:15,480
Janay, that should be quick
word.

1259
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,120
It's a done deal.
It's going to crumble.

1260
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,760
It it's got to it, it is
because.

1261
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,640
You got to have Daryl and Carol,
but of course she has to find

1262
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:30,240
him first, and Daryl hasn't even
remained in the same like well,

1263
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,280
something would have to push her
towards the Mont Saint Michelle

1264
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,600
because as of right, but at
least it doesn't look like going

1265
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,480
going anywhere right, but she's
going to encounter.

1266
01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:42,720
Like I'm saying, they're going
to end up in the circles that

1267
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,280
they need to be because I looked
at France's like the size of

1268
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:51,440
Texas.
So as long as he she stayed.

1269
01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:53,400
By the shores and do that.
Type of thing.

1270
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,960
It's going to work out, but it's
I don't have a.

1271
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,640
Doubt with that she not going to
find them.

1272
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,680
Yeah, the the problem is she's
just going to have.

1273
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,560
Issues because once she goes
looking for them, like I said,

1274
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,840
people are going to put two and
two together oh, you're American

1275
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:14,040
oh, it's American wait, you know
even.

1276
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,960
Though.
Not all Americans know each

1277
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,160
other but still like I said the
fact that 2 of y'all have come

1278
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,320
over here but I I wouldn't even
think that too because like the

1279
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,640
other American.
That was there like Americans

1280
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,920
was like we had tourists in
different places around the

1281
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,560
world and you got stuck.
But it's 15 years later if you

1282
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,400
if you.
Haven't seen like, like that

1283
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,920
one.
But once they meet Carol,

1284
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:43,320
they'll realize why.
Again, I'm telling you.

1285
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,320
Carol could have been.
In the CIA.

1286
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,120
And she was over there doing
some work and end up staying

1287
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,040
like you got y'all just have to
just no assumptions about

1288
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,120
people.
You know what I'm saying?

1289
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,960
No, it's be the thing to bring
her out.

1290
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,600
It's like, say, that's her.
Story what what would make her

1291
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,920
now come out she been.
Traveling.

1292
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,400
She she was in Germany.
I don't know she just been

1293
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,720
traveling.
Michelle, this is zombie

1294
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,320
apocalypse.
There are no vacations.

1295
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,320
There are no field trips.
There are no she don't come up

1296
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,120
with one.
I bet she said she was.

1297
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,200
Living in a village and the
village got overtaken and they

1298
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:27,400
got scattered.
She was, she was look, she look,

1299
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,680
it was 15 years ago, right?
She was 25.

1300
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:35,120
She was doing Michigan, she was
doing study abroad, right?

1301
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:36,240
You.
Know what I'm saying?

1302
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,280
And she was with her.
Family and now like they got

1303
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:44,400
scattered.
So that is the reason why she is

1304
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,800
out and about.
Oh my God.

1305
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,280
You know, they were gardening.
They were.

1306
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:57,000
Fishing and it just went to hell
from there.

1307
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,680
They're gonna come up with a
story, though.

1308
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,520
We already know.
I hope.

1309
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,920
It's better.
I hope it's better than.

1310
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,160
My daughter was stranded over
here when the world went to shit

1311
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,120
and I'm I, I need to go and look
for her.

1312
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:14,200
I need some closure now. 15
years after you don't believe.

1313
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:18,800
That right.
Well, did you paddle over here,

1314
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,960
ma'am?
Right, because that's going.

1315
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,480
To become the question how did
you how?

1316
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,680
Did you get here?
Because that's.

1317
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,520
Why you you say?
You are already over there.

1318
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:34,880
You've been over here.
This.

1319
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,680
I haven't seen no planes in in
France.

1320
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,720
I haven't seen helicopter.
I haven't seen anything.

1321
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,880
So if they find out, if they
find ash, oh, they're not

1322
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,440
letting that man go.
Oh, no.

1323
01:18:46,440 --> 01:18:48,000
Yeah.
So you better just tell me I can

1324
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,400
get up.
Out of here, right?

1325
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:50,600
You will study.
Abroad.

1326
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,680
Or you know what?
I'm saying or I don't, I don't

1327
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,040
care.
Ma'am, you didn't make something

1328
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,440
up that you've been over here
this whole entire time, right?

1329
01:18:57,440 --> 01:18:59,400
And you just now getting to this
area.

1330
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:07,480
I don't know because my my.
Whole thing is just like Casey

1331
01:19:07,480 --> 01:19:13,120
just mentioned, we know that
boats are the main travel for

1332
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:18,320
them because I mean, even even
before Quinn died, when Daryl

1333
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:22,280
was making inquiries about
getting back home, everybody

1334
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,920
that he talked to kept
mentioning boats, boats, boats,

1335
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,120
boats.
Nobody mentioned a plane.

1336
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,040
So you have been.
Even if she.

1337
01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:36,080
End up flying.
Over there.

1338
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,240
Somebody's going to see that
plane.

1339
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:39,800
They're going to do the same
thing Carol did.

1340
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,880
They're going to be like, oh,
there's a plane, let me follow

1341
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:46,000
the direction that it went in.
Somebody's going to find them.

1342
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:52,800
And then you're going to have
Carol trying to make an excuse.

1343
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,600
Like you said, Michelle, she's
probably going to tell them, oh,

1344
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,720
we were such and such, whatever,
whatever.

1345
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,400
But again, we don't know the
kind of connections that Madam

1346
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,240
Janay has anywhere else.
It's already kind of weird.

1347
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,760
That you're in France and you
still have connections in, in,

1348
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,400
in the Americas 15 years after
the fact.

1349
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,200
So where else are you doing
business?

1350
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,040
Who else do you have connections
with?

1351
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,680
And again, going back to what
Casey said earlier, where are

1352
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,520
your enemies?
Who else who?

1353
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,480
Because she's got to be making
these.

1354
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:31,360
Souped up walkers.
To go against somebody right,

1355
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:32,920
there's someone in charge of
her.

1356
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,480
You see what I'm saying?
So we will find out who that is

1357
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:39,440
later or that that could be
another way that they're tying

1358
01:20:39,440 --> 01:20:41,600
the.
CRM into the whole storyline

1359
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:47,080
because if the if the CRM is as
big as we knew it to be and the

1360
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:52,560
ones who live they had.
To have had a fleet, I mean, we

1361
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,280
know they.
Had boats, you know.

1362
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,360
We know they had boats, we know
that, but in order.

1363
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,600
For that.
So that means in order.

1364
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:05,280
For that to happen, this would
have to be before the ones that

1365
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,400
live.
And I'm, I'm going to be

1366
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,120
completely honest, I don't.
Even think it's the CRM, I think

1367
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:15,120
the CRM could be involved, but
is it This is a different, this

1368
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,560
is international, so they.
Probably have their own type.

1369
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:22,280
Of group and that group is
talking with the CRM and they

1370
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,960
can work together because how
the CRM came to.

1371
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,680
Be that was.
Immediate.

1372
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:33,400
That was on Homeland, so imagine
what's happening over there.

1373
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,240
They had to have something
immediate like that too.

1374
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,640
So that's a separate group and
that's what we're going to see.

1375
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,360
She is just a fraction of the
larger group.

1376
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,960
And this could just be the the
research fraction.

1377
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,520
Yeah.
Of that group, but she ain't

1378
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:50,400
doing research.
She's.

1379
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,160
Trying to make super soldiers.
But that's what I'm saying,

1380
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,800
that's the research went they.
They're not looking for a cube,

1381
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,280
but cure.
But they're looking for what

1382
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,200
could they?
I don't see how you even need.

1383
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,920
So you already got them out in
the world.

1384
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,280
Why we need Walker soldiers, but
whatever.

1385
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:08,360
Why?
And why they got?

1386
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,680
To be sued right.
They already fucking killing

1387
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:14,520
everything so right, so that's
that don't even right you.

1388
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,880
I mean, unless you're using them
on.

1389
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,120
People.
Right, that don't agree to.

1390
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,560
Because the ones that you had in
the.

1391
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,920
Fighting Pit, one of the ones
went and attacked one of your

1392
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:29,880
own walkers so it doesn't it.
Doesn't matter.

1393
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,960
It doesn't matter if a group of
people don't come with them or

1394
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,320
agree to, they'll just release
them on them.

1395
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,240
Yeah, that might be part of the.
800 year plan.

1396
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,080
Yeah.
When people don't agree, we just

1397
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,480
release.
When people don't agree, we just

1398
01:22:47,480 --> 01:22:50,480
release because they know how to
fight regular walkers, but they

1399
01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:52,440
won't know how to fight our
walkers right now.

1400
01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:56,320
No souped up walkers.
Unless their name.

1401
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:03,200
Is Daryl Dixon that part so.
But yeah, I, I.

1402
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,560
Can't wait to see OK.
So if Carol makes it over to

1403
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,280
France, I can't wait to see what
her reaction is going to be to

1404
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,720
some of these walkers, like the
the burning walkers, the ass

1405
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,280
walkers she's going to be
looking.

1406
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,400
Like what the fuck take me?
Back home, Daryl is going to

1407
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:21,640
have to fend for us.
She's going to be like, no,

1408
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:26,200
she's going to be lost as hell.
Right, as soon as they touch

1409
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:30,760
you, your skin.
Hold on, wait a minute, right?

1410
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,800
But.
But but.

1411
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,920
But you have to keep in mind
there aren't that many walkers

1412
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,200
in Paris.
Yes they were isolated around

1413
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,080
the Eiffel Tower but remember
for the most part there were no

1414
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,120
walkers.
So I don't even think unless

1415
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,400
they just coming up popping up
out the ground.

1416
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,320
Whack a mole style.
But but even me and Paris is a

1417
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,280
concrete jungle.
Yeah, yeah, You know what I

1418
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:57,000
mean?
Yeah.

1419
01:23:57,480 --> 01:23:59,800
So it's like.
Where's she going to encounter

1420
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,800
them at so again, what do they
say?

1421
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,800
Fear the living, fight the dead.
They She got to fear these

1422
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,120
motherfuckers.
Who's alive?

1423
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:10,240
That's gonna be her biggest
threat.

1424
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:11,160
The.
Walkers.

1425
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:16,960
Really ain't no threat in France
like in France, because they

1426
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,440
really ain't that.
Many they have.

1427
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,840
Gathered so many that if you do
find some I doubt it's a lot

1428
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,400
yeah, I mean, we we talked about
that last season 'cause.

1429
01:24:25,480 --> 01:24:29,000
Remember I I was talking about
the lack of herds.

1430
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,880
Yeah.
You don't really rounded them

1431
01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:34,040
all up.
Could be.

1432
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,000
Yeah.
Unless they start killing and

1433
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:38,080
then.
And you got to.

1434
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:43,280
Think too with with the herds
like just like us, they are

1435
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,440
migrating in in different
locations.

1436
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:47,920
You see what I'm saying?
It's a large landmass.

1437
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:52,680
They walk into another country
and unless they are.

1438
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:56,000
I've lost my train.
Of thought.

1439
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,880
Oh, unless they are killing
people to make them the herd,

1440
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:02,680
they're killing people who are
alive.

1441
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,080
But if you're killing everybody
who are alive, who you gonna

1442
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,800
have to.
Yeah, Because that doesn't seem

1443
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,200
to be.
Their MO because even in the

1444
01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:14,600
earlier episodes or in the
flashback episodes when Daryl

1445
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:19,320
was basically remembering how he
got to be in France, they came

1446
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:23,600
over looking specifically for
walkers, not people.

1447
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:27,120
They only took the people
because the people didn't follow

1448
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,440
the rules that were said, you
know, that was set forth or

1449
01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:33,480
Daryl and and the other people,
they got into a fight and that

1450
01:25:33,480 --> 01:25:35,720
was like one of the rules was no
fighting.

1451
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:40,200
So yeah, that doesn't make
sense.

1452
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,880
Because they weren't looking.
For people now.

1453
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:48,920
And you know what if?
They had again.

1454
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:54,120
We are talking about 15 years if
they've been doing experiments

1455
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:58,120
on their walkers the way that
we've seen or, you know, their

1456
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,920
walkers are just, they've died
off or they've killed them.

1457
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:08,640
I guess in that sense, with with
the countryside being absent of

1458
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,400
them, it would make sense for
them to have to go to another

1459
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,920
country to find walkers.
Yeah.

1460
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,720
Because of you, if all of your
walkers are are.

1461
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:22,480
Gone or not, you know, or I
would say this because like when

1462
01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:26,280
Daryl was in the warehouse when
he first got to France, those

1463
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,480
those walkers were the burning
walkers, they were the acid

1464
01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:32,840
walkers.
So that means that those walkers

1465
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,640
at some point have already been
experimented on.

1466
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,400
So maybe that's why they're
having to come over to the

1467
01:26:38,440 --> 01:26:42,120
States because they're looking
for walkers that have not been

1468
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:46,240
altered in any way and they
still need to do the the

1469
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:47,960
experiments.
That would make sense.

1470
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,920
And that would also explain why
we don't really see walkers in

1471
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,400
France, because they've probably
tested all of them.

1472
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,560
And if you have the ones like
the one that was in that

1473
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,360
deathmatch where when he got
shot up with the serum, it

1474
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,240
overpowered his system and his
brain exploded.

1475
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:10,200
If they had that happening a lot
towards the beginning, then that

1476
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,440
could explain.
I mean, they literally could

1477
01:27:12,440 --> 01:27:14,160
have gone through all the
walkers in France.

1478
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:19,560
I mean, it would seem unlikely,
but like you said, if if France

1479
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,800
is about the size of Texas, I
mean, Texas is pretty big, but

1480
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:27,200
it's not like the United States.
So it's not like they've killed

1481
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:32,360
a whole country, you know, or a
whole North American sized

1482
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:39,440
countries worth of walkers, you
know, maybe a few 100. 1000, but

1483
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:46,080
in 10. 15 years that could be.
That could be believable.

1484
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:49,760
And.
Then you know, they could have

1485
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,440
pushed them into Spain.
Could have pushed them into

1486
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,360
Germany, could have pushed them
into Italy.

1487
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,280
I mean, we just don't know.
Could have pushed them in the

1488
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,200
ocean.
I hate you know.

1489
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:00,560
What I'm saying, I'm saying
like.

1490
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,560
We don't really, yeah, really
know, but.

1491
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,520
My thing is, I'm.
Going to go as a scientist, so

1492
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,880
if we're doing that and I want
something different, I would

1493
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:17,800
like to see the strands of
American.

1494
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,840
Yeah, a different strand because
that's going.

1495
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,880
To be a different strand, yeah,
yeah.

1496
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:28,680
So and that could, I mean, we
don't know what the storyline is

1497
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,480
for season. 3 yet, but we.
Do know that they're filming in

1498
01:28:31,480 --> 01:28:34,600
Madrid, so it's possible they
may be going to Spain.

1499
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,240
So it could have something to do
with that too.

1500
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:42,160
Like, oh, maybe let's go get
some Spanish walkers and see

1501
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,400
what we can figure out 'cause
again, we still don't know why

1502
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:48,760
they're doing the experiments.
Yeah, they could be looking for

1503
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,040
to weaponize them, but they
could also be looking for a

1504
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,160
cure.
We just don't know.

1505
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,720
I don't see a cure.
I know I I.

1506
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,920
Don't you know at this point?
Because we don't.

1507
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,680
Far because we still the
apartment.

1508
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:08,000
Caused it, but the fact that
everybody is infected, yeah,

1509
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,440
that would be a hard thing, I
think, to cure.

1510
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:16,200
Yeah, yeah, that's how 'cause
right now it's.

1511
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:17,080
At this.
Point.

1512
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,480
It's just like.
Kind of like.

1513
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:22,600
What in the world beyond how
they had?

1514
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:26,160
Like their older people in these
rooms where if you die, you're

1515
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:30,600
contained.
But I mean, sure that cause all

1516
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,600
you're doing at this point is
making sure you're safe from it.

1517
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,560
Yeah, because if you.
If you think back.

1518
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,120
A lot of times.
The prison.

1519
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,920
When people were sick and that's
how everybody else got infect,

1520
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:51,520
you know, got got big if they.
Had that system.

1521
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,400
Like in these safer communities
that would help them, of course.

1522
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,720
But even still, even with World
Beyond, they had researchers,

1523
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,320
but they wasn't working on
people who were sick.

1524
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,120
Fix the person who was sick
first.

1525
01:30:04,440 --> 01:30:06,600
Yeah, before they even get to
that point.

1526
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:07,800
But once they.
Die.

1527
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,320
No, no, no.
Hell, didn't Jennings tell us

1528
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,000
that in the beginning?
There's no way to reverse it?

1529
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:17,040
He basically said that, Yeah.
So they're basically is.

1530
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,000
No cure and.
Everybody's infected, no.

1531
01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:25,440
Because one, how would you even
like if if?

1532
01:30:25,440 --> 01:30:28,840
Such a thing as a cure.
For something like this were to

1533
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,800
exist, how would you even
disperse it at this point?

1534
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,000
Wait.
Where did you find the people?

1535
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,000
'Cause it's not like it's no.
Mass Communications.

1536
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,840
You can't put a newspaper out.
You can't mail a letter.

1537
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,480
Well, no, but I mean you still
don't even know where all the.

1538
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:49,440
Communities are.
Yes, in the ones that live,

1539
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,560
they're now doing outreach for,
you know, people who need help.

1540
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,440
But even still, the CRM, even
with them doing that, ain't

1541
01:30:57,440 --> 01:30:58,800
gonna be able to reach
everybody.

1542
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,280
Yeah, there'll be things that
people will say, oh, there's

1543
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,600
this group that will help you if
you ask for help.

1544
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:08,640
But, you know, they plan was to
basically sweep the whole

1545
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,240
fucking country.
They're not doing that now.

1546
01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:13,480
Yeah.
So how do you get the word out?

1547
01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:16,400
That there's a.
Team, you know, you see all

1548
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,880
higher Terminus did.
We thought Terminus was safe.

1549
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,520
Sanctuary for all, really.
Yeah.

1550
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:30,040
So BBQ.
For all hello painted meat yeah

1551
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,480
yeah.
So yeah, I mean those are the

1552
01:31:33,480 --> 01:31:38,960
things that they.
At this point, if they were

1553
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,720
going to fix it and have been
fixed, that's just my thought at

1554
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:45,360
this far into it.
Yeah, if, if, if there was a

1555
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:46,840
cure, they would have.
Found it already.

1556
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:53,480
Yeah, I agree.
But again, we still need to know

1557
01:31:53,480 --> 01:31:55,160
what the hell they are actually
doing.

1558
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,840
They, they do need to.
And we, we need some answers

1559
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,360
about that at this point.
We do There's.

1560
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:02,480
There's still answers we need,
even.

1561
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:06,000
From before 'cause I know, I
know our whole reason for coming

1562
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,880
to France, that Walker who shot
herself and immediately got up

1563
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,040
at what?
We never got an answer for that.

1564
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,840
Yeah, we haven't.
There's still some.

1565
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:19,600
Unanswered and who and who?
Would be the one to answer that

1566
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:27,200
because how long ago was that
yeah to now so you went from you

1567
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:33,200
know shooting yourself and
immediately regenerating to we

1568
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:37,360
injecting y'all with a serum so
you can be a super Walker and we

1569
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:42,400
don't even know when she.
When she was shot, yeah.

1570
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,920
We don't know how far after.
All of that.

1571
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:48,240
You know everything started
right so.

1572
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:50,680
Yeah.
Questions.

1573
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:53,560
I I just.
Hope I need them to start.

1574
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,080
Answering some of this shit
right and.

1575
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:56,960
That's what I was about to say
1.

1576
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:01,920
Thing I, I really don't want
them to do is just drag the

1577
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:06,720
story out and then not give us
any answers that we need.

1578
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:11,880
Because that's one of the things
I will say I did not like about

1579
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:16,520
the ones who live.
Because you built up the CRM

1580
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:21,160
literally from the first episode
of the main show with that

1581
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:28,400
helicopter you, you put elements
of the CRM into every single

1582
01:33:29,480 --> 01:33:34,240
spinoff or story that we had.
Except for.

1583
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,000
I don't think there was a
mention of them in Dead City or

1584
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:38,840
so far I mention of them in
Darrell.

1585
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:44,880
But still you put enough of
their information and their

1586
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:52,000
footprint into the universe that
for it to go up the way that it

1587
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,520
did with Rick and Michonne,
which if that's only one part of

1588
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:59,080
the CRM, I cannot.
OK, that's fine.

1589
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,920
There are other parts of the CRM
and we know that that that

1590
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:08,840
action had a trickle down effect
and to the rest of the CRM, are

1591
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,080
you going to give us more CRM
story?

1592
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:15,560
Are you going to tell us why
they were such a big part of of

1593
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:20,840
this story enough that you kept
leaving the bread crumbs for us?

1594
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,040
Are we going to see any of those
bread crumbs appear in this

1595
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,600
show?
My I just, you know, those are

1596
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:31,880
some of the questions I still
have because.

1597
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:36,320
Something at at some point.
And I know that they they may

1598
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:41,040
not do this, but at some point
all of these stories are going

1599
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,080
to have to tie back together.
Yes, they are.

1600
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,040
They don't have to.
Because.

1601
01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:53,240
I feel like if you continue to
tell the separate stories, like

1602
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,000
I have no problems with the
separate stores.

1603
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:02,080
I don't care about Daryl Dixon
having 2-3 Four Seasons, as long

1604
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:05,720
as the story makes sense.
Going back to Dead City, that

1605
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:09,960
story is going to have to make
sense, you know, and, and we we

1606
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,920
see that was a slow burn.
And I think out of all of the

1607
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:17,640
shows, that one for me had the
the least amount of payoff

1608
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:23,440
because you took you took a
character art for one character,

1609
01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:25,680
Maggie.
And instead of moving her

1610
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,920
forward, you took her all the
way back to the beginning of her

1611
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,880
grief, all the way back to the
beginning.

1612
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:35,880
Right.
So it's like that story is going

1613
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:37,720
to.
Need to come along and and

1614
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:42,680
develop and make sense.
If they come up with other spin

1615
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:45,040
offs.
We hear that there's other

1616
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,400
things taking place.
But you know what?

1617
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,120
I'm I'm OK if they don't
connect?

1618
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,680
Depending on where they are.
So Dead City are too close to

1619
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:58,040
where everything else happened.
Even the CRM it has to connect

1620
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,480
some parts.
It's hard to even see how Dead

1621
01:36:00,480 --> 01:36:04,600
City is going to connect Daryl.
I can understand that's not

1622
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:08,400
connecting, but that's just
shows us a different place of

1623
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,040
what's happening.
No, I need the I need the Daryl

1624
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:11,920
story, you know what I'm saying?
The.

1625
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,800
Connection to reunite.
That I I need well.

1626
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,280
Yeah, but I'm somehow even the
other part, not the.

1627
01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:21,880
Not the family reuniting, but
just it making a connection to

1628
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,320
what's happening in the States.
I'm OK with that.

1629
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:28,760
Even the fear I was OK with
because you started off in

1630
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:33,840
California, like I don't expect
you to to migrate all the way to

1631
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,960
the original crew, right, Right.
It didn't need that didn't need

1632
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:40,840
to happen.
Now if they moved into an area

1633
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:44,240
where you say the CRM, well that
then that would make sense for

1634
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,480
you to encounter.
And they did a couple of times.

1635
01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:51,480
So OK, you tied that in, right.
But and like with don't give me

1636
01:36:51,480 --> 01:36:54,240
on Dead City, right?
Yeah, yeah.

1637
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,520
Yeah, but that OK.
Don't even get on Dead City.

1638
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:02,320
But Daryl, I'm OK with because I
know that's just a separate

1639
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:07,640
location and we're getting,
we're getting a view of another

1640
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,360
part of the world that's dealing
with what we dealt with and how

1641
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:16,400
our people will be able to
negotiate in that environment

1642
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:23,880
and if they ever make it home.
That's a good shop that you make

1643
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,640
home 'cause that's.
A feat, though?

1644
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:27,160
I mean, honestly, that's a feat
to go.

1645
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,160
From no defeat, just getting her
across the water.

1646
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:35,080
Yes, get him even over.
There and then if she makes it

1647
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:40,360
and she we say if she makes it
when it's about her going to

1648
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:46,320
save him so of course she don't
make it but even I'm just amazed

1649
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:47,840
that they even.
Make it 'cause that plane.

1650
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,640
Can fall apart.
I mean, in the middle.

1651
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:53,800
It's not even an international
flight.

1652
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,720
Well, I mean, yeah.
I mean, I mean like, he doesn't.

1653
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:01,000
Have another.
Pilot, you know, But that's what

1654
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,360
he was talking about when he was
showing her the map.

1655
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,520
He was saying, I think we need
to stay close to the coast and

1656
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,680
then we need to make a pit stop
in Greenland so they can refuel.

1657
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:12,200
So it's not like he's going
straight from the States.

1658
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,800
I know, but it's just, it's
just, I'm just like.

1659
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:18,120
Steal I know we'll we'll just I
I'm better off if.

1660
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:19,960
She found.
A fisherman.

1661
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,640
Than the pilot, but she got to
get there fast.

1662
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,480
And it's going to take some
time.

1663
01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:30,880
We got to explore something a
little different, so.

1664
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,680
We'll no, I'm like, rather like
the boat.

1665
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:36,800
Came back to pick up more
Americans and she smuggled her

1666
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,360
way on it.
Like they going to do that

1667
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:39,720
Daryl?
Fuck the boat up.

1668
01:38:40,440 --> 01:38:43,040
It has to be another boat like
these people and.

1669
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,400
They probably had to do what
they had to do to find.

1670
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,360
That one not your toe up.
My one good boat.

1671
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,640
Now you know they.
They they, they have to have.

1672
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:57,520
Some more than just one.
Well, I mean most most of the

1673
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:01,040
boats.
If you think about it, when all

1674
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:02,880
of this stuff.
Started happening.

1675
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:05,880
You had people who were on
cruises.

1676
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:10,000
You, I mean, we saw that in the
Alpha episode of Tales, you

1677
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:15,320
know, they were on a, a dinner
cruise boat and you saw the you

1678
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:18,960
saw the downed cruise ship when
Michonne was looking for Rick.

1679
01:39:20,480 --> 01:39:24,600
And then I don't think you guys
haven't watched dead in the

1680
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:28,280
water, have you?
The one about the sub Riley sub?

1681
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:32,480
OK, so, so you had the people
who were on the sub and and all,

1682
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:37,800
you know, like somebody died
from appendicitis and it started

1683
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:41,280
there on the boat.
So boats might.

1684
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,440
Be few and far.
Between because most of them

1685
01:39:43,440 --> 01:39:47,400
might be infested, yeah, but you
go clean them out I mean, I'm.

1686
01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:49,320
Just saying you will not pick a
cruise ship.

1687
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,520
I love cruises.
However, they do need to go to

1688
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:56,080
dry dock more than some of these
other ones that are container

1689
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,720
ships.
They will do best with container

1690
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:00,520
ships.
Those will be the ones that you

1691
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:05,040
will try to compensate or any
military ships because they are

1692
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:11,160
a little longer lasting, right.
So you will try to get those

1693
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,160
people off the boat.
They're dead.

1694
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:22,880
Yeah.
So, OK, well, OK, so we got

1695
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:27,680
Carol.
On her way to France, yes.

1696
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:32,600
You've got Daryl, kind of.
I don't want to say he's butting

1697
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:38,000
heads with Losang at the nest,
but clearly, Daryl, you have the

1698
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:42,120
ulterior motive.
I I I don't know if.

1699
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:46,000
I feel like.
Losang does that other chick,

1700
01:40:46,440 --> 01:40:49,480
she kind of worries me because
she's a little more gung ho.

1701
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:53,800
And even though she's the one
who's like, when, when Laurent

1702
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:55,960
is doing stuff, he doesn't need
to be doing this.

1703
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,240
He needs to be studying, he
needs to be focused and blah,

1704
01:40:58,240 --> 01:40:59,800
blah, blah.
I was like, yeah, you are,

1705
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:03,400
though.
Too intense for my liking.

1706
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:07,360
I don't trust.
Her I don't know what it is

1707
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:08,880
about her I.
Don't trust her.

1708
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:15,320
Lo saying I'm.
Kind of on the fence with him.

1709
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,680
I'll see how.
I feel about him in the next

1710
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:24,040
episode when, when we see like,
what is that path moving forward

1711
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,920
with Laurent?
That again, that is my big

1712
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,600
question.
You keep saying he's the savior,

1713
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,120
he's the Messiah.
He's going to he's going to fix

1714
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:32,960
everything.
Whatever.

1715
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,480
I need to know what your plans
are for Laurent.

1716
01:41:35,480 --> 01:41:39,360
And then I'll decide how I feel
about Lo Sang and the rest of

1717
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,640
the nest.
But you did get a little back.

1718
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:46,920
You did get a meal back, so
that's a good thing.

1719
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,160
Again, I don't know why he
didn't kill 'cause they listen

1720
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,160
to Darryl.
Yeah.

1721
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:55,120
Yeah, but I don't know why.
He didn't kill Madam Janay, and

1722
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:56,880
I have a feeling that's going to
come back to bite him in the

1723
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,040
ass.
Somebody's going to die.

1724
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:03,680
Somebody's going to die.
Yeah, it's going to be.

1725
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:05,400
Is it one of the two people that
or?

1726
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:07,560
How many people?
They say like 6, it's going to

1727
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,960
be one of them.
Well, we only know about.

1728
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,440
We only know two of them.
And we only care about two of

1729
01:42:12,440 --> 01:42:13,880
them, so it's going to be one of
them.

1730
01:42:15,480 --> 01:42:18,200
But but the in.
In the same vein.

1731
01:42:18,440 --> 01:42:21,280
I don't know why don't just kill
there.

1732
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,720
Like in the same way he could
have just killed her.

1733
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:27,120
You see, this man is giving you
issues.

1734
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,480
Yeah.
Cutest man, I mean, although she

1735
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:32,320
said him that, you know.
Her gotta do it and.

1736
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:36,720
He was like, Nah, but you know,
do it yourself then you know,

1737
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,280
you know, 'cause once he threw
the walk ahead that you bitch,

1738
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,720
that was your sign.
I might not want to play with

1739
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:45,480
this man I.
Might just want to kill him now

1740
01:42:45,480 --> 01:42:48,040
I know.
Right, 'cause y'all waited till

1741
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:49,520
the walk ahead come flying.
And everybody go.

1742
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:50,400
Run it.
Wait, what?

1743
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,000
You just gonna let your
prisoners?

1744
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:54,040
OK, girl.
Yeah.

1745
01:42:54,720 --> 01:43:05,160
Yeah, you a horrible warden.
OK, but I I don't.

1746
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:09,320
Know I just.
I just kind of feel for

1747
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,160
everything.
Once Carol, once Carol gets to

1748
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,560
France, it's just it's going to
be over.

1749
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,080
It's going to be over.
Carol The.

1750
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,080
Destructor.
Yeah, and.

1751
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:23,320
Well, they all are.
And now it's two of them there,

1752
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:24,880
so it's even more mess.
Yeah.

1753
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:28,480
And and again this goes back to
this.

1754
01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:31,640
Has to be taking place before
Rick and Michelle got home,

1755
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,400
because especially since Carol
is using somebody's plane to get

1756
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,920
over to France.
If Rick had been back already,

1757
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,320
they'd have.
Oh yeah, they would definitely

1758
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,160
have.
Oh yeah, so now we we just need

1759
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:44,600
like I.
Said if Rick was back.

1760
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:48,080
They would that, she was saying.
That first she you not going

1761
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:51,000
that's not information you going
to hold off on, right, right.

1762
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:53,640
It's just not.
That's the most important thing.

1763
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,040
Ain't that?
Hey, guess who here?

1764
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,960
Yeah, I'll call that other.
Shit.

1765
01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:02,080
So like.
Honestly, in the in the grand

1766
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,760
scheme of things, yeah.
So Carol's on.

1767
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,960
Her way to France and God help
him.

1768
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:15,160
You guys have any final thoughts
on episode 1 of season 2?

1769
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:18,360
It's about to be some.
Shit.

1770
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:22,920
And on that note, that is it for
our show.

1771
01:44:23,440 --> 01:44:26,840
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1772
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,880
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1773
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:31,920
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1774
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,160
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1775
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,640
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1776
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,680
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1777
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