Oct. 31, 2024
The Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon: The Book of Carol S2E4 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #315
#thewalkingdead #daryldixon #hebookofcarol Carol makes her way into The Nest after narrowly escaping Madame Genet's massacre. Daryl both gains and loses something important when The Nest is attacked by the enhanced walkers. A place of refuge does not remain that way for long. Carol takes matter into her own hands. With the defeat of one leader, another emerges with a new organization and purpose.
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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here
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with Casey and Michelle and we
are discussing episode 4 of
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Season 2 of Daryl Dixon.
Hello.
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So I know we're going to go in
order, but I'm just going to say
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this episode, it made me happy,
yes, and it made me mad, and
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then it made me happy again.
Yes, it was.
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There was a lot of emotion in
this episode and I was not quite
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ready for all of that to hit me
at once.
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It was like, what are y'all
trying to do to me?
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What are y'all trying to do to
me?
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I agree.
Let's start at the top Madam to
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May and her little army of
enhanced walkers, because she
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actually does kill the crowd
that she has brought to the
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nest.
Carol, of course, as we
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discussed in the last episode,
hid behind the big dude, so she.
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Didn't I'm calling her James
Bond Carroll, 'cause I was like,
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how you getting out of this way?
Listen.
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They even shot her with one of
the serum arrows and she was
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able to quit.
She got that off.
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Real quick, real quick, she's
like.
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The.
Leather because they hit that
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leather jacket, so it really
didn't get through that leather
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jacket.
OK 'cause my thought was how did
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it hit?
How you how none of it getting
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you like name?
Well, dribble jibble.
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Like you ain't getting up no
stick.
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She got that off off off real
quick, real quick.
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So at that point, at that point
I was like OK, you got it off
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but they bout to turn and you
still alive.
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So how you gonna get from this
group?
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And I get shot leaving the
group.
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We saw Carol being Super Carol,
as she always is.
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She was being track star Carol
'cause when I say sis got the
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hell on, she ran dodging bullets
and she takes the dune buggy
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that they actually have Cadrone
strapped to I.
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I don't know if we mentioned
that in the last episode, but
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they had Cadrone strapped to a
Jeep because they were going to
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use him as bait to like lure the
walkers to the nest.
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So Carol gets on it with him and
they go chasing.
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They go straight to the nest.
And I was like, Karen, why would
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you leave the oh, OK, she has to
go get a friend out.
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So I was like OK, but when I
tell y'all we I know we've had
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this discussion before and I'm a
say it again and I'm a reiterate
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it again just in case we are all
alive during a zombie
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apocalypse.
Those bitches start running.
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I'm done, I'm done.
I'm just going to find a corner
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somewhere and just sit there and
just wait for the inevitable Ant
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all.
You can do.
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That's all you can do.
Because no, you saw Carol.
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Carol was struggling.
I was like, OK, Carol is used to
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slow walkers.
Carol is not used to having to
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run for her life.
And I know she was probably like
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son of a bitch.
What the hell is this to go from
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episode 1 walkers to track
stars?
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Oh no no no no.
But remember she saw it and when
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they was peeking through the
gate so she knew they was going
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to get get up and go fast.
Yeah, but that they weren't even
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going that fast when she was on
Ash's land or are you talking
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about?
When her and old boy was looking
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peeking.
Through the gate, Yeah.
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Yeah, Well, I mean, I knew.
'Cause he got up and ran towards
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her and she shot him, you know,
as he got up to like.
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So she started a little Sprint.
He did, yeah.
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But it's different when you got
Freeland and, you know, no, you
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just straight open field.
Yeah, and it's also different
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when it's one and then you got
like more than a dozen coming
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after you, right?
I mean running.
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Either way, she had to get them
out of there so wasn't going to
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end up well for her.
This is like war War Z, yes.
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And I have said it before
because we've referenced that
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movie as well.
And I was like, when my kids
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were younger and we saw that
movie, I I turned to them and I
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told them, I said, if there's
ever zombies in our lifetime and
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they run like that.
I said, I'm just letting y'all
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know now.
I'm going to find somebody's
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gun.
We're going to sit crisscross
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applesauce in the middle of the
living room and I'm just going
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to get it over with for all of
us because ain't no way.
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They were like, Yep, 'cause
ain't no way.
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Take Me Out.
Take Me Out right 'cause I can't
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even look, I can't even run that
fast.
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So then I'm done.
Hello, I have arthritis in both
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knees.
There will be absolutely no
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escaping for me.
What they say let my kids know I
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love them.
I'm gone.
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The kids will be like, can you
please take us out first so we
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get to deal with this.
Oh, Oh no, I can't 'cause that
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makes me think of that movie,
The myths every time.
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I can't.
Sorry for this.
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You took everybody else out
before you and then you get out
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to take yourself out and the
world is good.
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That's horrible.
Oh wow, what?
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That's crazy that you took
everybody else out.
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Well, the same type of
situation, like if we go outside
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this car, we're gonna die.
That's how bad it was in the
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myth, OK?
I've never seen the movie.
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He killed everyone in the car,
including his son, and he went
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out there, He had no more
bullets.
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He went out there to be taken by
the creatures.
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But as he thought the creature
was coming, it was people
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clearing the way, like burning
the mist away.
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Oh, that's.
Horrible.
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That's fucked up.
That's why you like, well, the
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kids like taking her.
I don't know.
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I think I just take myself first
'cause maybe the kids will be
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able to survive.
Oh my.
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God, that's.
Really fucked up.
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Yeah, sorry everyone.
It's a it's a bad ending.
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That's the end you never saw.
The mist.
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I just, I just told you the.
End And And The funny thing
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about the Mist is Melissa
McBride was in that movie, was
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she?
Yeah.
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Yeah.
That was that was that was the
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movie.
Because she was a casting
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director and she only did like a
few acting jobs, and she did the
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miss.
And that was how she ended up
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getting on The Walking Dead,
because of what she didn't miss.
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Yeah.
'Cause she had.
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To deal with that stuff.
Oh wow.
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But anyway, so Carol still.
And Laura, Laura, Lori Holt was
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in there, too.
Oh, was she OK?
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I that that's one of those
movies that is continuously on
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my to be watch list.
So I watch it at some point,
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probably sometime this year,
yeah.
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Melissa McBride is the woman
with kids who didn't make it.
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You know what?
You know what she didn't.
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We're not even going to go
there.
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So however she made it here, she
did be able to jump up in.
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She let she free could drum and
she starts.
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To flake bullets too 'cause I
mean, people were shooting right
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at her, but not a goalie.
Is, let me tell you, they.
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Didn't have good A, they didn't
have good aim.
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To shoot him clearly he behind
her.
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Neither one of them got shot
however that's OK because that's
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what I was thinking in my mind
like oh she bout to get shot in
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the shoulder a little bit, glaze
her face.
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She don't get shot in the leg.
Let me tell you what it is.
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She got shot with one of the
with the serum arrow and before
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she got it out it just it
protected her.
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It coated her with some kind of
invisibility shit.
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OK.
All right.
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If we want to go there with
that, do her.
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They're just saying, OK, I mean,
but we've already talked about
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how the guards and stuff at the
Nest are not really trained.
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They're not really prepared.
So they're probably just just
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shooting blindly.
And of course, they don't have
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time to focus because you're
you're trying to keep the
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onslaught of walkers from coming
in.
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Because Can you imagine the
people who are at the front of
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the gate, they see these walkers
coming and they're dead before
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they can even comprehend what's
going on.
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The ones who were there, first
of all, you see this person
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that's coming after you in a
Jeep or just barreling through
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with the Jeep.
Now, granted, she wasn't trying
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to hit anybody and she wasn't
really trying to kill any of
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them people because she doesn't
know yet that Daryl is being
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held prisoner, right?
She thinks that he's a part of
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the nest because that was his
intention.
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That's what was going on that
Madam Janae would have known.
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She wouldn't have known that
Losang was keeping him prisoner,
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so she had no reason to be
killing folks.
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Now, however, you start shooting
at her, trying to keep her from
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coming in.
She's got to defend herself
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because she doesn't have time to
sit there and explain to them.
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I'm not with these people.
I'm coming for my friend.
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You shouldn't.
You are an obstacle.
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I'm just going to kill you and
get you out my way.
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I will say my apologies later.
That's basically what Carol is
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right now.
Now, in the midst of all this
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going on outside, on the inside,
Lo Sang is questioning Isabelle
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again, trying to find out where
Laurent is and trying to talk
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about, talk to her.
Her about the fact that her
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faith is weak and her resolve
has weak.
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And she has let this Darrell
Dixon get in her head and turn
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her from the cause.
And he is increasingly sounding
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like a madman.
Like Los Angeles gone, Common
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sense is gone from him.
Now he is so focused on finding
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Laurent and doing this little
ceremony, experiment, whatever,
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because he really believes that
if the Walker bites Laurent,
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Laurent will not be infected.
And that is what's going to lead
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the new faction into the world.
That's that's what's going to
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heal.
And he's thinking all this
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stuff.
And he was like, yeah, we have
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to have the provement.
She was like, if you need proof,
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you really don't have the faith,
right?
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Somebody comes in, tells Low
saying that they're being
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attacked and I guess he was
getting ready to take her back
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to the dungeon where Daryl was
or the out they were in a shower
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or something.
The showers.
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She takes the little grate from
her shower as she slashes him
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across the face.
OK, I was like, OK, she's
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distracting him a little bit.
I will be honest and say I was
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not expecting him to pick up
that knife and stab her.
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I thought he.
Was just I.
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Thought he was just going to
like threaten her, scare her or
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just basically be like, look, I
have this, I can hurt you.
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This motherfucker actually
stabbed her.
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I was like.
Then I was concerned for her
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because I thought, OK, she's
about to die on this ground.
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I did not want her to turn into.
And I'm thinking, you know what?
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No, she's not going to die.
They're going to patch her up.
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She's just going to slow her
down some, but she'll be patched
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up.
I figured she would die, but I
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didn't.
I didn't want her to die and
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then become a Walker.
I wanted her to have for her
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character and for what she has
been through and, you know, her
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trying to protect Laurent and
all this other stuff.
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I really wanted her to have a
dignified death, you know, as
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much as she could within the
circumstances.
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I didn't want her to become a
Walker.
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I didn't want them to have to,
you know, see her like that and
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put her down.
I I just didn't want any of
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that.
So when she got up and she was
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making her way outside, I was
like, oh, maybe somebody will
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find her and patch her up and
someone does find her out of all
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people.
Carol finds her.
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And I was like, OK, Carol didn't
try to kill her.
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She tried to now.
I look so concerned for like,
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oh.
She did, you know, I was
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thinking about that because I
was thinking about what we've
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said about Carol in the last
couple of episodes.
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And I don't know, I think maybe
with Carol, she's so used to
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holding people at arm's length
and maybe something about what
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they went through at the
Commonwealth, trying to get into
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the Commonwealth and just some
other things as far as, you
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know, maybe her, her view about
community has changed.
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And granted, I think she's let
her guard down a little bit too
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much because I think the old
Carol would have sussed out that
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Janae was playing her.
I think the old Carol, you know,
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she would have had more
intuition in regards to Madam
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Janae, especially after you see
her doing this, you know, her
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people doing the experiments.
This is not a good person, and
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that should.
Have been the red flag for
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Carol, but and I think this, I
don't think I, I not, I will
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push back a little bit on that.
I don't I don't think so.
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I think Daryl definitely lost
his edge.
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I don't think Carol did.
The only reason why is because
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Carol been consistent to this
point.
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Even when they were on Greenland
and she was sitting next to that
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woman, she was on 100.
She was ready because she knew
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it went right when that woman
started talking about the land
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is, you know, paying us back or
whatnot.
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But I think with the Madam, what
it is, but she still wasn't like
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she did.
Yeah, but I don't she wasn't
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fit.
She knew she could take her.
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Like I knew she could take her
even when she had the crossbow.
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Like, I get that that doesn't
that doesn't do anything.
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But I think with Madam Janae,
she knew she was bad.
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She did like she knew.
Didn't eat the damn food off the
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ground like he already knew.
You know there's some shit I
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would do so I'm going to expect
the same shit that I would do.
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She would do.
But she also thought OK we 2
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leader bitches here.
However, the other one she
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thought, OK, Madam, she know I I
need to pay back.
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I need to kill Daryl and I'm
legit like she is.
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She thinks we're on the same
page.
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But clearly I thought she was on
the same page with Madam Janae
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too.
But she's not really.
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Madam Janae.
Don't give up, AL.
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And also, you're not going to
keep up Alpha.
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You're not going to keep a
leader with you.
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You talk.
About and I I get that and I.
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Don't miss that part, that
that's the one thing Carol miss.
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I think she's still be
consistent.
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She not on vacation like Darrell
is, is just she just missed the
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part that you cannot be in the
same room with this woman
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because she would think you will
take her over just like you
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think she will take you over.
And that's, that's the thing.
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That's why.
I feel like you going to do it
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as a Walker.
Yeah, that's why, that's why I
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said I feel like she probably
had her guard down just a little
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bit when it came to Madam Janae.
Because I, I think old Carol or
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older Carol or previous Carol,
however you want to phrase it, I
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think she would have been a
little bit more weary of Madam
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Janae.
She probably still would have
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used the circumstances to get
her closer to Daryl, but she
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would not have been the old,
excuse me, the old Carol would
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not have been surprised when
Madam Janae threw her into that
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crowd.
That's that's just what I'm
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saying.
But.
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However, she was still ready to
react, so she was already, she's
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already always on 20 when Darryl
come on vacation and he went
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from 20 to two.
I mean like, come on dude, you
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but but I I won't.
Say that he.
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In love in Paris he in love.
In Paris.
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Paris in love.
But but again, I won't say
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that's something that's out of
character for Daryl either if
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you really think about it,
because one of the reasons why
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Aaron wanted him to go out with
them to recruit people to come
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live in Alexandria was because
of Daryl's way with people.
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Because Daryl is a good judge of
character.
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Now, granted, got a little bit
loose here, but also the the one
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thing like his, his mistake
started at the very beginning
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when he came across the young
woman and the old man.
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And again, we have to remember
he had been out to sea.
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We don't know how many days he
was floating.
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We don't know how long he had
been there.
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He had not eaten.
He was disoriented.
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So of course he wasn't going to
be at 100%.
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So we understand that.
Everything else, like the thing
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with Low saying, like, I think
Daryl kind of sniffed that Low
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saying might not be on the up
and up, but at the time, Low
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saying wasn't dangerous.
And it wasn't that he was being
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evil.
He just had this vision that
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was, you know, he was being
blinded by his faith to believe
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in something.
And I just don't think Daryl
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understood how far he was
willing to take it.
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And if you think about it, Daryl
as a character, we've never seen
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him show any type of religious
inclination before in the show.
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He probably didn't partake in
church and stuff when he was
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younger when the world was OK.
Given what we know about his
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living circumstances, he may not
be familiar with the way people
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act.
As far as a cult, you, you can
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look at some other situations
that they've seen since the
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world has ended, but again,
those are influenced by the way
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the world ended.
So people going to act a little
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funny, low saying for the most
part was on the up and up.
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I'm trying to save humanity,
which we're trying to do this,
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we're trying to do that.
It wasn't a tool.
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You started sending people to
try to kill him on the sly.
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That Darrell was like, wait,
what the fuck am I missing?
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You didn't miss anything.
It's just that Lozang changed
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because 1.
He had her sensor whispering in
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his ear.
I'm so overhauled.
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And then two, once things
started kind of escalating low
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saying does what a person does,
he starts panicking.
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He starts making decisions off
the fly that maybe aren't the
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right decisions.
I don't think he actually meant
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to stab Isabel.
I think he was just shocked at
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the fact that she attacked him
first.
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No, he did.
Did you see his face 'cause it
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was like a switch if you go back
and look at that scene.
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It looked it was like a a switch
went off and he was like his
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face was straight at first and
then he like, you know, do
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little and then.
Yeah, Once he realized what he
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had done, he was just like, oh,
well, yeah, I don't think, I
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don't think that was his intent.
Like I said, when she, when
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she's, when she attacked him, I
think at that point that's where
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the switch flipped because he
was like, did she really just
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attack me?
Yeah, and cut my beautiful face
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and.
Cut my face.
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So he stabs her, she goes out,
she's she's able to make it out,
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which again is so interesting to
me.
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Well, I guess because everybody
was outside, nobody stops her.
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And they probably looked, if
they did see it, they probably
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because at that point, the
balls.
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Are gonna be dead.
But at that point, nobody
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thinking about her.
If you look, when she got up,
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the amount of blood that was on
the floor, I just thought she
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was there.
Too.
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But Carol finds her, gets her
somewhere kind of sort of safe
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because one of those walkers is
coming after her and she's just
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looking.
I think at that point Izzy was
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like, OK, whatever, like what is
she going to do?
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Carol saves her and then that's
when she figures out where
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Darrell is on the in the
meantime, you've got one guard
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on the inside with Darrell.
You've got all of these walkers
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coming towards him and he's
looking like how the fuck am I
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finna do this?
And there was just like, get
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these chains off me.
Doesn't have to say a word, just
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get them off.
He goes in One Direction with
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his with his little thing.
He's his morning star, he's
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killing with he's killing
walkers.
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And then you got somebody at the
end of the hallway that's
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shooting the walkers and then
all of a sudden it's just the
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two of them and he runs to her
that run.
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Let me tell you, that facial
expression he makes when he
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finds Carol after a long
absence, after when they think
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that the other one is dead or
when they've been upset, That
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little face that he makes before
he burst into tears, that gets
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me every time.
Because I'm like that.
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That was Daryl at peak
vulnerability.
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He's looking at her like, Oh my,
came over here to find me.
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He looked like he Do you know
how you.
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Got.
Yeah, right.
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Oh, I'm about to say something
bad.
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What?
What?
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What you tried to say, say it.
Say it you.
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You can't say that you're going
to say something bad and then I
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can't.
Don't say it.
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Well, I say it, I didn't have, I
didn't have the fields.
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What?
OK, I'm, I'm going to be honest.
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And if I have to rate it, it's
like no.
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Actually, you love Wait Wait.
Wait, I was happy that they were
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but like I I cry a lot.
I didn't even.
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It didn't even reach.
Same that was the I was the same
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way but I think for me it.
Was because I have cried but
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every time that scene went and I
think that was it.
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I was just more happy they got
together because every time I
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see that scene when he come back
from Hilltop after he had to
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listen to easy stream, easiest
pizza pie, whatever, when he
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came through those gates and he
saw them.
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I can tear up now.
He made that face but I still
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cry every time I see that scene.
But listen I was like oh it's
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happy.
I'm happy for them.
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OK so what's the same
conversations now I'm like OK
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let's move on.
You have to stop crying and
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hugging.
Let's go.
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And I think for me, it was
probably influenced by the fact
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that, again, I was expecting it
to happen by this point.
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And then you also, I think the
emotions of the reunion were
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somewhat dampened by the fact
that you knew Isabel was about
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to die, if she hadn't already
died like I.
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Really don't care about Isabel.
And then she was gonna die, so
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that didn't even dampen that.
The thing is is even with.
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Paying for that.
Right when they got together and
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I knew they were going to get
together and I cried when they
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got together.
When who?
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Because.
We have been waiting for that
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for a long.
Time Michonne I still cried we
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knew they were about to get
together, but.
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But we didn't, we weren't
expecting it when we when we got
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it.
So that, I think added to the
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emotion I.
Cried to all of the scenes
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afterwards, still when they were
together.
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But here I just, I, I just, I
just didn't.
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I didn't expect it.
It had too much some other stuff
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happening.
Maybe if yeah, Isabel wasn't
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dying, I really didn't care that
she died because I knew that was
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going to have to happen for this
story to move forward.
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But and I just had no feelings,
to be honest with you.
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I said this before, I really
don't have no feelings for her.
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Maybe I'm just cold inside.
I don't know.
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However, I just it just wasn't
it just wasn't hitting.
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Now, the stuff they talked about
later, that hit me more.
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Yeah, Like, it hit me more
because she basically was like
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you.
You moved on from just coming
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over here.
Like, what about the rest of us?
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Right in so many words.
Yeah, the hard conversations.
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Of those kind of hard jokes and
him like not wanting to leave.
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So what about the kids that you
were pretty much raising where
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we don't even know where they
parents are.
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But you willing to come over
here?
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Not that you willing, but you,
you know, got kidnapped and now
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you all invested in what's
happening.
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Yeah, happening here.
So I think that's what I felt
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more emotional and then them
actually saying I mean, I love
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when he does it.
He does do that face like he I
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felt like they felt the emotion
but I didn't it didn't pull my
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heartstrings.
Sorry.
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Yeah, I, I'm kind of there as
well.
443
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,120
It didn't, I wasn't I, I wasn't
as emotional as I thought I was
444
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:19,800
going to be when I finally saw
them reconnecting.
445
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:25,480
But also, like I said, it's very
much, it was almost an exact
446
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,920
replay of when they were
reunited after Terminus in the
447
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,160
Woods.
So yeah, so that that was, yeah,
448
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,040
that's a top.
That's a top three for me,
449
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,160
right.
So it just, it felt like there
450
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,600
was something that was supposed
to happen, like if they if they
451
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,280
were that close to each other
and then somehow missed each
452
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:55,040
other and then later reunited, I
may have had more emotion.
453
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,160
But at this point, Daryl is
locked up.
454
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,880
All the bad guys who were
keeping him there otherwise
455
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,120
occupied.
There was literally, I mean, and
456
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:12,040
Carol found out where he was
because Isabel told him.
457
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,680
At this point, there's
absolutely no reason whatsoever
458
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,520
for them to not reunite.
So it was very much when I saw
459
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,000
them, when I saw them look at
each other, I think I teared up
460
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,920
a little bit because of Carol's
reaction and just kind of the
461
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,160
noise she made, like, Oh my God.
I actually found him and Daryl
462
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,520
looking at her like, is this, is
this real?
463
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,960
Because I think that's the thing
that got me.
464
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,080
He wasn't sure if it was real.
Then once he realized she was
465
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,280
there and ran to her for the
hood.
466
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,960
I'm expecting the waterworks.
And there was nothing.
467
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,160
And I was like, does this mean
that I don't care?
468
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,960
And I was like, no, that's not
the case.
469
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,520
I care.
About them as characters.
470
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,760
And I care about the reunion.
But again.
471
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,760
Didn't hit me.
We already knew that when Carol
472
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,640
set her mind to coming to
France, she was going to find a
473
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,680
barrel.
We already knew it from from the
474
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,800
1st episode where she actually
made it to France and she
475
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,280
immediately found her way to
Madam Janae's place.
476
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,560
I was like, OK, they got to give
us this reunion now.
477
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,400
You can't, you can't have us go
through the whole season and
478
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,320
then keep it towards the end
that that's not going to work
479
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,720
now.
So that was expected.
480
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,800
And then like I said, for me,
knowing that Daryl was going to
481
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,760
have to go outside and deal with
Isabel after everything that
482
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,560
they had just been through,
after her confession.
483
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,560
And then again, you know, Daryl,
Daryl is a good one for hoarding
484
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,760
guilt.
He is a good one for having
485
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,760
survivor's guilt.
And he probably at some point
486
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,600
will think about the things that
Lo Sang said about him fooling
487
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,400
Isabel away from the faith, away
from the belief.
488
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,400
And at some point, he's probably
going to think that it is his
489
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,760
fault that she is dead because
she didn't just go along with
490
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,880
what Lo Sang said.
Now, later on, he'll probably
491
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,280
think about it, be like, no, she
wouldn't have done that.
492
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,080
You know, it's not my fault.
But right now I know that that's
493
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,680
what he's about to be hit with
when he goes and finds Isabel.
494
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,960
And sure enough, they go outside
and he's like, hey, we got to
495
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,600
go.
Izzy is done.
496
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,360
Like, you can tell that she,
there is no strength left in
497
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:37,480
her, no life left in her.
And she starts, you know, find
498
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,800
Laurent, take care of him.
Tell him, you know, tell him
499
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,360
that I love him and all this
stuff.
500
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,760
And then she dies.
I think I was a little bit more
501
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,680
emotional about that part
because I was like, now Laurent
502
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,480
really doesn't have anybody
except for Daryl.
503
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,640
Well, no, let me stop.
He still has flu, as far as we
504
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:04,160
know, but he's lost everybody
that has known him since birth.
505
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,280
I think that got to me a little
bit more because I'm like, now
506
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,760
he's really going to have to
grow up fast, you know, we keep
507
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,320
talking about.
The way Ben has to change and
508
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,520
the way that he huh.
But he'd been having to have to
509
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,720
grow up fast.
Yeah.
510
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,840
Yeah.
They didn't want.
511
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,920
They didn't want him to grow up
the way he'd need to really grow
512
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,520
up to survive this.
Because they were trying to
513
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,200
protect him for whatever.
This is low, low saying hadn't
514
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:41,240
and and you know, in mind.
So yeah, so Izzy is dead.
515
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,880
So we've lost Sylvie, we've lost
Izzy, we've lost the meal, we've
516
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,360
lost all the, you know, really
kind of likable characters from
517
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,960
the France stuff.
So now we did.
518
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,840
We got to deal with Lo Sang and
her sensor and Madam.
519
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:02,080
I'm going to reference back to a
spin off or continuation Dead
520
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,760
City, because ultimately Daryl
Dixon did the same thing.
521
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,800
We got characters from the
beginning and they're dead.
522
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,360
However, there's a difference
because Daryl Dixon has lasted
523
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,160
longer, right?
And you gave us a little bit
524
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,400
more into the into the care They
didn't have like a couple of
525
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,120
lines like we're getting to
experience them and feel bad.
526
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,840
Isabel not so much, but feel bad
when they I'm just joking,
527
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,480
everyone.
No, she's not.
528
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,360
No, she's not.
I'm trying to muster, I'm trying
529
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,880
to muster some feelings for her
habit.
530
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,440
I'm sorry, I really don't.
Mean, like you said, we just.
531
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Don't understand.
And I understand if people did
532
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,680
because that's so much better
than what they did with Dead
533
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,000
City, where people just pop in
and then they're dead.
534
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,640
But you want to make us feel
something.
535
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,920
But you didn't give us an
opportunity to experience them.
536
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,000
At least we have experienced
them.
537
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,880
And now it's, you know, Daryl
and Carol because again, when
538
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,760
they experience people, they
die.
539
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:13,800
This is true, but I was like, at
this point, Madam Janae, her
540
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,040
life is numbered.
And I don't mean days, I don't
541
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,440
mean weeks at this point.
Now Darrell is about to go find
542
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,200
her because even as they're
leaving Montes and Michelle in
543
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,760
flames, telling him she was
like, I have a way for us to get
544
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,000
back home.
A pilot that's going to take us
545
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,800
back to Paris.
Daryl is not paying any
546
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,240
attention.
Oh, all these people will be
547
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,680
happy to have you back.
Are you listening to me?
548
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,760
And Daryl was like, look, I'm
about to go kill somebody.
549
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,200
And that's when he's like, she's
asking him all these questions.
550
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,840
She was I I, I take it you knew
her pretty well.
551
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,880
She was talking about taking
care of somebody.
552
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,120
Who's she talking about, Daryl?
Like, look, we got to go this
553
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,480
way because we got to go.
We got to go fight.
554
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,320
So he's already pissed off.
Now, if he had just stayed where
555
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,680
he was, he probably could have
taken care of Madam Janae and
556
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Losang together.
Because Madam Janae does come
557
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,720
in, talk to Losang.
And I was like, you got two
558
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:25,800
birds right there.
You got Carol and Daryl, just go
559
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,440
ahead and take care of them.
But I understand Darrell was
560
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,680
looking for Laurent first.
He was like, I got to go find
561
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,120
him because as far as he knows,
Laurent is in the woods
562
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,640
somewhere.
But of course, when they get to
563
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,000
the woods, Laurent and Falou are
not there.
564
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,080
They're gone.
He does know that Laurent has
565
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,960
been to The Cave because he has
the Rubik's Cube.
566
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,600
Laurent left it back, you know,
left it there for him.
567
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,400
So now they've got to go and try
to find Laurent and and Falou
568
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,840
because at this point, now, you
know, there was not going to be
569
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,720
like, OK, I'm just going to go
home now.
570
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,800
Carol has a friend with a plane.
We're just going to go home.
571
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,440
No, he's not.
He's got to let Laurent know one
572
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,440
that Izzy is gone.
And now he feels personally
573
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,280
responsible to make sure that
Laurent is safe.
574
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,360
Especially now that you have
Janae and Lesane looking for
575
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,480
him.
And I wouldn't want him to.
576
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,920
I wouldn't want him to just
leave.
577
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,719
That is not Daryl.
So for me it's.
578
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,520
The right thing to.
Do yeah, I'm going to say it's
579
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,199
the right thing to do.
And Carol, you should even know.
580
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:35,120
Like if he's been helping and
he's been here and he's involved
581
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,639
and this woman is dying in his
arms saying please take care of
582
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Laurent.
Like that's Daryl characters to
583
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,159
take care like of them and.
He's not going to go nowhere
584
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:47,080
until he make sure he do what
he's supposed to be doing.
585
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway, this is the start of
586
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,920
the Darrell and Carol field
trip, where they go in search of
587
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:03,240
Laurent and of course they find
an old couple who has been
588
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:07,000
living on a farmhouse just
peacefully together.
589
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,480
Before we even get there, before
we even get there, I want to say
590
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,600
this.
Let me get close.
591
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,080
So you.
Can hear me the.
592
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Payoff for the came back with
some bullshit on their little
593
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,160
walk when they was going on
their way there.
594
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,400
OK, but.
So I said what?
595
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,960
OK, so about that and what if
for those of y'all listening, if
596
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,880
you didn't understand what Casey
was talking about while Darryl
597
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,600
and Carol are walking, they're
having conversations about
598
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,640
different things he's asking her
about you know, so you just you
599
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,800
just up and left came to look
for me and you know they're
600
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,760
talking about those things.
He asked her.
601
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,360
He says what were you talking
about on the radio?
602
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,520
You said something about
somebody came back and she said
603
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,360
oh, I was just talking about
this feeling that I had this.
604
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,080
I look at TV screen like what
the fuck I.
605
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,720
Said bitch, girl.
I wasn't like to pay off.
606
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,600
I want it.
I thought you were gonna say
607
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:16,680
Morgan like a person came.
Back OK, so I'm feeling she very
608
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,480
well could have still meant to
say that somebody returned but
609
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,160
because of what Darryl is trying
to do she just played it off
610
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,560
because if Darryl is really
focused on finding who Laurent
611
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,400
is, who she has he hasn't even
really told her at this point
612
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,480
who Laurent is.
So if she's like, OK, if he's
613
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,960
really determined to find this
person and save this person and
614
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,640
do whatever, finish this out,
maybe I don't need to distract
615
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:51,200
him right now.
Because that explanation, oh,
616
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,360
you know, I was just, whatever I
was feeling, it was, it was just
617
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,640
there, you know, I started
having funny feelings again,
618
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:04,120
like something that no.
That was the worst explanation
619
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,880
ever that yeah, it just hated
it.
620
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,440
It doesn't make sense.
I think she's hiding something.
621
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,280
I mean, you got to admit it's
not, you know, that's a Carol
622
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,800
thing to do.
I don't think she hided nothing.
623
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,600
Though I think so either.
Because that's her best friend.
624
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,200
She going to tell him, you know,
no matter what.
625
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,360
Remember, she used to go on in
the middle of the woods and tell
626
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,840
him everything was going on when
he reclused himself, you know?
627
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,240
So she was still going out there
checking on him and telling him
628
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:41,680
the updates of everything.
Yeah, but I don't think.
629
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,080
I don't think.
I don't.
630
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,320
I don't think it's Ricky
Michonne that she's talking
631
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,000
about.
I don't know if I want to say
632
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,480
it's Ricky Michonne, because
again, one that would be too
633
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,160
important.
Yeah.
634
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,280
If she had the helicopters, the
CRM helicopters at her disposal
635
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,240
then she probably would have
gone home to get those or she
636
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:10,960
would have at least radioed and
said hey I just found out Daryl
637
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,560
was put on a boat to France.
I need y'all to come help me
638
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,560
something.
But again, we've we've mentioned
639
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,080
this before.
As much as Rick probably said,
640
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,600
I'm not going anywhere else once
I get home.
641
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,320
This is Daryl, this is his
brother.
642
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:33,400
Ain't no way in hell he would
have just sat there and let
643
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,400
Carol go find Daryl by herself
across seas, especially if he
644
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,760
knew what was going on.
There's just, there's no way.
645
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,400
And, and furthermore, Judith
ain't gonna let that happen.
646
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,520
Right.
So, I mean, Judith was the one
647
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,080
who told her Mama, go find my
daddy.
648
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,000
Go bring him home.
Yeah, it took two years, but you
649
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,560
did what I told you to do.
Not yet took you 2.
650
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,520
Years, but OK, so we'll, we'll
just let that sit for a minute.
651
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,480
I'm just like I said, I'm just
gonna say I don't think she was
652
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,360
being truthful with him when she
said it was just a feeling she
653
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,000
had.
I I think there's something else
654
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,360
going on and we'll just have to
see, you know, how Carol does
655
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,160
hold on to secrets even and yes,
sometimes she holds them from
656
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,320
Darrell too.
So we'll just have to see.
657
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:35,320
But I want to talk about this
old couple because again, we
658
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,000
know that when our people show
up.
659
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Somebody gonna die.
Somebody gonna die even though
660
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,480
you have the best intentions,
right?
661
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,800
But again, just like we said
with the the other circumstance,
662
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,120
these folks will, I won't say
both of them.
663
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,920
The lady didn't have it coming,
the husband or the the the
664
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,040
boyfriend.
He definitely did.
665
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,240
Yeah.
I mean, it's it's nice that
666
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:08,680
y'all took them in and gave, you
know, gave them a car and, you
667
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,120
know, fed them and all this
other stuff.
668
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:16,160
But this couple, it was it was
one of those things where I was
669
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,960
like, OK, so what's the whole
purpose of introducing us to
670
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,840
this couple?
Then we find out, OK, so this
671
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:28,160
couple housed Laurent and Falou,
gave them access to a vehicle or
672
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,800
help them find a vehicle so that
they can go to Paris.
673
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:37,880
OK, So while they're there, oh,
yes, Laurent mentioned us to
674
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,640
you.
They start calling Carol sister
675
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,880
Isabel because they think she's
Isabel.
676
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:50,040
And then the wife keeps making
all of these references to
677
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Isabel and Daryl and oh, Laurent
said that you loved her and
678
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,160
blah, blah, blah, and she's
giving Carol advice and all this
679
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,720
other stuff.
I said, OK, So what the show is
680
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,520
trying to do now is they're
trying to show us that there
681
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,400
might be more to Carol and
Daryl.
682
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,640
I need y'all to stop 'cause you
they.
683
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Definitely thought she was
Isabel.
684
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,240
Like that's what I'm saying.
That's immediately what I
685
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:20,360
thought.
And and I and I get that, but
686
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:26,760
once they are there, everything
that she is telling Carol is
687
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,000
based on observations.
She's looking at their body
688
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,400
language, she's looking at how
they're acting around each other
689
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,520
and she is making her own
assumptions about the way they
690
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,160
feel for each other.
And I was like, OK, here the
691
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,040
show goes again trying to tell
us, but you didn't get the
692
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,080
Isabel and Daryl so too.
So I ain't listening to you.
693
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,920
OK, Isabel and Isabel and
Darrell was forced like but.
694
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,680
That's, but that's what I'm
saying.
695
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,920
I feel like they're trying to do
that same thing with Carol and
696
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,920
Darrell.
They're putting out all of these
697
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,960
little feelers like, Oh yeah,
there's something there.
698
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,880
They do have feelings for each
other, blah blah blah blah blah.
699
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Maybe I was looking wrong are.
You looking at the wrong show
700
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,920
because they are.
I did I did I that's why I text
701
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,800
you guys because I was like wait
a second I'm confused.
702
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,240
I had to rewatch the scene a few
times because I'm like y'all are
703
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:28,200
trying to hint at something we
just spoke about and it's not
704
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,120
there.
I have not seen that one time
705
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,720
they were star crossed lovers
and they miss each other in the
706
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:37,080
night.
But the old lady is reading them
707
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,400
like that.
Because she's reading the other
708
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,280
type of love.
Everyone better be OK.
709
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,520
I didn't see it.
I didn't feel it.
710
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,120
I didn't.
I have.
711
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,600
Never in all of these years, I'm
going to keep throwing my hands
712
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:55,040
up in all of these years have I
seen until right now, we're not
713
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,520
right.
For the original show, I never.
714
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,880
When people were trying to ship
them, I still I didn't.
715
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,880
Wasn't there?
Right.
716
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,320
Like stop trying to force like
him and Connie that was there
717
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,480
no, no questions rotation there.
I can see them and absolutely
718
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:14,400
all right.
But anybody else?
719
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,440
I have not seen that.
No, now I've seen Carol with
720
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,840
other people in my head, but not
Daryl.
721
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,280
Yeah.
And, and like I said, I don't
722
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,040
see, I don't see those two
together romantically either.
723
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:37,240
And even like, so it's
interesting with Darrell and
724
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:40,760
Carol because obviously they're
best friends.
725
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,280
They've obviously been through a
lot of stuff together.
726
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,200
They've had their backs with
each other, but also at the same
727
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:53,080
time, they butt heads so much.
And I was like, I'm sorry, even
728
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,240
if this was a romantic pairing,
I don't see y'all arguing all
729
00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:59,640
the time.
Even if you've been gone for how
730
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,760
long?
This woman came all the way
731
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,960
overseas to find you and you're
still arguing, quote UN quote
732
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,720
like an old married couple.
I get that, but I'm like, can
733
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:15,240
y'all just not have a moment of
peace within y'all and be like,
734
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:18,240
oh, I'm so glad that we that we
found each other again.
735
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,240
Can, can we just have that?
Y'all got to be sniping at each
736
00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:27,360
other and, and, and just making
it's tiring.
737
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,920
And that's one of the reasons
why I don't ship them and it
738
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,680
could be OK.
Again, we don't see the pairing
739
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,680
if other people see it.
I'm not going to discount that.
740
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,880
There are obviously people who
see it.
741
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Just like there are people who
don't see Ricky Michonne, there
742
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:52,240
are people who don't see Connie
and Darryl.
743
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:56,840
There are people who actually do
see Maggie and Negan.
744
00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:00,200
OK, Everybody looks at things a
little bit differently.
745
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,560
And I know that has to do with
also what we are attracted to,
746
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,720
what appeals to us.
So everybody's going to have
747
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:12,080
their, their, you know, their
versions of what it is.
748
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,920
OK, fine.
But I don't want to look at
749
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,040
Darryl and Carol arguing all the
time.
750
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,880
And if you think back to a lot
of their scenes together, a lot
751
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,720
of their experiences together,
they argue just about as much as
752
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:31,000
they are not arguing.
And it's tiring.
753
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,640
It's exhausting.
Like, right now, y'all should
754
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,160
not be arguing about anything.
Y'all should be trying to find a
755
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,880
way to get this car going.
Go find the run so y'all can go
756
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,320
the fuck home.
You should be happy that your
757
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,440
motherfucking best friend found
a way.
758
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,440
From America.
From America.
759
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,080
Who France?
Who France.
760
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,840
So find your ass.
You should be never gave up.
761
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,680
Never.
And you still like you're you're
762
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,200
being so focused.
And again, I understand you just
763
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,360
you just went through something
traumatic.
764
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,600
You have somebody that you're
that you feel responsible for
765
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,920
that you need to go find.
And then you have all these
766
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,520
people who keep saying stuff.
I mean, even with even with
767
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,800
Darrell and Carol, like they're
having conversations.
768
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,200
She was like you loved her, you
cared about her, she's important
769
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,760
to you, but blah blah blah.
You didn't think to come home
770
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,960
and like what you.
Do.
771
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:35,440
You even have, do you even have
the whole story yet?
772
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,560
Why you sitting here like you
just you just decided to stay in
773
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,360
France.
What else was he going to do?
774
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,800
Because guess what?
Janae was controlling all of the
775
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,960
boats in Paris, and I was.
Just going to say he didn't have
776
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,120
no plane.
Didn't know.
777
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,320
Didn't nobody have a plane?
And at this point he's just
778
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,200
really trying to stay alive
because you got this man who is
779
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,760
trying to hunt him for reasons
he don't know.
780
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:05,240
So it was just as much as I like
seeing them together again, and
781
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:10,720
I like their dynamic when
they're getting along, the
782
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:15,080
little pettiness between them
right now, it's irritating me.
783
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Y'all ain't got time for this.
Y'all got shit to do and then
784
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,880
you need to go fuck.
A man later be mad later.
785
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,880
Right be mad later, be mad when
you get back to the
786
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,720
Commonwealth.
Be mad because if y'all are
787
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,680
acting like this and you and
then you still got to deal with
788
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,560
the fact that what the fuck you
finna tell ash when you walk up
789
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,800
with with this grown ass man and
not your not your grown
790
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,280
daughter.
Like there's too many other
791
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,760
things that you need to worry
about.
792
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,840
Not to mention the fact that you
got people who are looking for
793
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:51,840
you because Darryl escaped and
Madam Shanay knows that Carol
794
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,760
escaped.
Y'all got way of y'all.
795
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,920
Y'all got other things to be
worried about then to be
796
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:00,440
frightened.
A.
797
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,960
Whole lot of other things.
So that was kind of irritating
798
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,560
me.
And then, like I said, with,
799
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,400
with the old woman and the old
man making like the different
800
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,840
little remarks to them about
their relationship and about
801
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,480
this and about that.
I was just like, OK, you know
802
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,680
what?
I'm done tired.
803
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,920
I I'm done.
Because this is I watch Carol
804
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:33,880
and Daryl for the camaraderie,
for the fact that they both
805
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,480
accept each other for whatever
they are going through at the
806
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,280
time.
They help each other through
807
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,320
their trauma.
They don't force the other
808
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,440
person to do anything except
for, I have to say it earlier in
809
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,960
the years when Carol was going
through her stuff and she was
810
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,440
like, oh, I don't want to kill
anymore.
811
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,480
I don't want to do this anymore.
I don't want to do that anymore.
812
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,440
Because I'm going to admit
during those times in The
813
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,280
Walking Dead, those are the
times.
814
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,840
I was on another podcast at the
time and we talked about The
815
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,880
Walking Dead.
I and I can remember clearly,
816
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,840
OK, it's time for it's time for
Carol to be gone from this story
817
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,680
because it's too much now as as
the years go by and I I look at
818
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,960
her character a bit more again,
I realize she's dealing with a
819
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,440
whole bunch of repressed trauma.
There are things that she
820
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,480
probably has never properly
dealt with.
821
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,760
We see it again with the whole
with the whole quote UN quote
822
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,280
barn door in this episode when
she's going in with the old lady
823
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,960
to get stuff and she's looking
at the barn and she finally
824
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,920
admits to the old lady that she
lost the daughter.
825
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,200
Now that should have clicked
with the old lady, Like, oh,
826
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,320
wait, you're you're a nun and
you had a daughter that should
827
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,840
have clicked with her life.
Oh, you might not be Isabel, but
828
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,520
maybe the old lady was just
like, OK, look, they haven't
829
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,240
done anything bad to us.
Yeah, I was gonna say at that
830
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:56,360
point, they don't even.
Gonna.
831
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,160
Right, and then you'll help
them.
832
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,920
Still, you can still have to
have a kid.
833
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,120
Lost it and then became a nun.
No.
834
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,720
But you know, for for the most
part, we don't think about that.
835
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,880
You know, but true.
But I'm going to go back to
836
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,080
something again that is bad to
say.
837
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,080
Here we go.
I'm this hurt her having issues
838
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,360
with the barn.
That's bothering me too, because
839
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:29,000
I guess I would be OK if we saw
it somewhat over the years.
840
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,400
But I think that's the whole, I
think that's the whole point.
841
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,480
I have all of this I, I, I get
it.
842
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,040
I totally do, Like I totally do.
I, I, I got the mental health
843
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:46,640
thing, but I just feel like the
way it's written, it's more of a
844
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,640
like they.
They're pulling on our heart
845
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,880
strings.
They and then they're trying to
846
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,960
set something up or whatnot.
I don't know exactly what
847
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,360
they're trying to do, but could
have did this a tad bit
848
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,400
differently.
I thought of it more so like
849
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,360
number one, like how do I say
it?
850
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,240
It it more is repressed.
The fact that she now is using
851
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:20,320
Sophia as this cover of This is
why I'm going to Paris.
852
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,000
Like it's now bringing it to the
forefront where things are like,
853
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,520
OK, well shit, you know what I'm
saying?
854
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,960
Although when she met Ash and he
put her in a barn, that's why
855
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,960
she kind of had the first one.
That was before the story even
856
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,760
came about.
But now even more so now because
857
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,720
I've used my little girl and the
hopes and dreams of what I wish
858
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:45,960
for her is now prominent.
Has she survived that?
859
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,560
That would give you a little bit
of trauma, right?
860
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,320
It it.
Would have and I, I'm like, I
861
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,160
totally get it because that
happens.
862
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,760
I guess just the way they wrote
it.
863
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,560
I really just, I don't know,
like, again, we talked about it.
864
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:02,720
I don't think it should have
been the barn.
865
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:04,800
I really think it should have
been when she went in there and
866
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,160
saw all the things that that man
had for his son and that you
867
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,160
don't even have that for your
baby.
868
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,800
Yeah.
And then I can see that then it
869
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,120
starts to creep, you know what
I'm saying, to the creep in.
870
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,840
But the the way they're doing it
of just because I guess you have
871
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,800
to have it visually for us, the
barn is something visual for and
872
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,160
it's really for us and.
I was going to say in the barn
873
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,040
is something that everybody
remembers.
874
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,960
Right.
And I guess that's what like,
875
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,280
don't worry about us.
Make it where it like it is real
876
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,400
and that is closing in on her.
And sometimes it's it may not
877
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,200
even be the barn, but other
little other things.
878
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,360
The Rubik's Cube could have done
it to her when he was pulling
879
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,440
out of the tape.
Well, when she was in Ash's
880
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,120
greenhouse and she played the.
The music.
881
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,160
She was crying, Yeah, but I mean
that that also.
882
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,120
That's what I'm saying.
That would have been the time to
883
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,480
like start it all.
You see what I'm saying?
884
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,000
Because she had that time and
she was like, you know what?
885
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,920
I've lost my real child even and
lost Henry, and those things
886
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,200
come back and then it's the barn
and it's just other little
887
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,800
things that just makes her think
of her.
888
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,160
They wrote it that way.
It's just how they riding it.
889
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,000
Like you, you put it in there
and you're not just taking the
890
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,280
time and care for it because you
need Carol to go through this,
891
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,080
right?
That's how I'm feeling.
892
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,440
Right.
So I think the other thing that
893
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,640
was that's kind of weird about
this whole, I guess Daryl and
894
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:44,080
Carol reunion is how long is
taking certain things to come up
895
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,200
in the conversation.
Like you've been on the road
896
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,400
with Carol, y'all have been at
these people's house and it's
897
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,440
not until y'all are back in the
house after the Madam Janae
898
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,360
soldiers have been to the house
looking for them.
899
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,520
Y'all come in the bedroom.
Now Carol is just now giving him
900
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,800
the little doll from Judith.
Now you are just asking how
901
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,360
Judith is.
That to me doesn't seem, it
902
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,400
seems weird because I would feel
like, yeah, Daryl has this
903
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,800
responsibility over here in
France, but this is Judith.
904
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,640
That should have been one of the
first questions out of Daryl's
905
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,680
mouth before they went anywhere.
Are the kids OK?
906
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,120
Especially when they're having
conversation in the woods And
907
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,480
he's like, so you just decided
to come up on a whim and, and,
908
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,680
and look for me and find me
here.
909
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,160
You didn't say anything about So
what about the kids?
910
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,800
Who's watching the kids?
Are the kids OK?
911
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,880
Is every none of that
conversation?
912
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,680
Y'all wait until they've been
they've been at this people's
913
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,160
house.
What a day 2 days and now you're
914
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,480
asking how is Judith?
How is she that just?
915
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:01,160
Yeah.
Doesn't seem right to me.
916
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,360
That part, it doesn't seem right
to me.
917
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,200
So it's.
Also throw it all day.
918
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,600
Huh.
Also throw an RJ like you.
919
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,840
Also been there.
Who that boy like step daddy?
920
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,200
Right.
Step in, Dad.
921
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,320
Come on now, help me.
So, so it's just weird to me
922
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:24,120
that you're leaving out what is,
I feel like all of these vital
923
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:28,440
topics of conversation.
Granted, he probably didn't
924
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,360
think about it because when they
were leaving the nest, Carol
925
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,200
said something about, you know,
all these people are missing
926
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,600
you.
And she mentioned RJ, she
927
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,400
mentioned you, that she
mentioned Connie.
928
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,640
She was like, yeah, we, we miss
you.
929
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,920
You know, everybody's been
worried about you.
930
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,840
Again, that should have been a
that should have been a
931
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,600
question.
Is everybody OK?
932
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,720
And and again, you're you're
dealing with trauma right now.
933
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:54,960
Your your, your girl, your
friend, your whatever she was to
934
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:59,120
you just died.
I'm assuming he knows that LO
935
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:04,600
saying killed her, because even
if it wasn't told outright, LO
936
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,640
saying was the one who let her
out.
937
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,200
Yeah, who took her out?
So he has to know Lo saying was
938
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,120
the one who killed her.
So I know he's focused on that.
939
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,240
He's focused on trying to find
the one.
940
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,720
But still, these are your
people.
941
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:24,160
You have literally been there
with Judith and RJ since birth.
942
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,640
These are other people who you
care about who love you.
943
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,120
And again, going back to that
line he dropped earlier in the
944
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,360
show.
I'm just wondering if the people
945
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,360
back home and thinking about me.
And now somebody there and you
946
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:41,720
ain't asking no about.
Nobody.
947
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:47,400
That's not a God damn thing up
until all this stuff.
948
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,600
But no you.
Know but no y'all walk.
949
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Y'all could talk about that on
the walk, right?
950
00:56:53,880 --> 00:57:00,840
Right, So I don't know, this
episode was kind of it's one of
951
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,440
those things where it's kind of
weird for me because again, I
952
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,600
love the fact that they did
reunite, but it's like you
953
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,920
reunite and then you go back to
the way things were before.
954
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,760
Like you didn't know, like you
wasn't just thinking whether or
955
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,160
not this man was dead for six
months or however long he's been
956
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:24,480
gone and you just didn't think
that you would be reunited with
957
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,920
your people because you've been
stuck in France for it's it's
958
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,480
just weird.
And I know I use that word a
959
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:33,400
lot.
It is.
960
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,080
It's.
It's weird, but it is.
961
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,440
They're out of character.
It is.
962
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,640
It just seems strange and and,
and even though they haven't,
963
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:48,600
they've been apart for a while.
There is also kind of like a
964
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,400
natural flow to the way Carol
and Daryl are together.
965
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,680
And you see that once Madam
Janae's people come back to the
966
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,880
house because when they have to,
when they have to hide, they
967
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,480
don't want to court.
OK, you go do this.
968
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,640
I go do this.
Like bam, bam, bam.
969
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,440
They're in sequence when it
comes to being upstairs.
970
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,760
And Madam Janae actually finds
Carol and she's about to shoot
971
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,720
Carol and Daryl comes in the
back and forth like it's they're
972
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,520
very synchronized when it comes
to certain things.
973
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,120
So again, the the back and forth
with them, the pettiness in this
974
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,920
episode when y'all haven't seen
each other, however long it just
975
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,560
it threw the vibe of the whole
episode off for me.
976
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,120
I'm not saying y'all got to be
lovey devil with each other.
977
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,360
I'm not saying y'all have to be
like tiptoeing around each other
978
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:46,040
being nice but come on now.
Act like you missed each other,
979
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,880
right?
That's the whole thing.
980
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:55,920
And I feel part of me feels like
they have them acting in that
981
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:04,680
way to kind of to kind of
contrast this whole conversation
982
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,640
that's been happening with the
two older people.
983
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,520
And.
Oh, yeah.
984
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,120
We think your sister Isabel, we
think you're the person that
985
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,600
Daryl loves because Laurent told
us that y'all love each other,
986
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,400
but y'all just don't know how to
express it.
987
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,360
Or rather it, I guess Izzy might
have said something, but Daryl,
988
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,720
of course, hasn't.
And I just feel like because
989
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,960
they're they keep pushing this
with the old people.
990
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,400
Yeah.
You guys love each other.
991
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,360
And this is how y'all should
act.
992
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,920
And da, da, da, da, da, you
know?
993
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:34,400
Yeah, old man is not my husband,
but when I, you know, I was
994
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,440
alone and I was by myself and
then I found love again and blah
995
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,360
blah blah.
And it's like she's trying to
996
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,680
tell Carol that this is
something Carol can do.
997
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,040
Excuse me, Sister Isabel.
This is something she can do as
998
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,520
well with that.
It was just too much.
999
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,720
It was too much.
It was too much.
1000
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,760
Y'all trying to force this
little thing and then y'all got
1001
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,880
them acting like they pissed off
at each other.
1002
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,200
Y'all seen each other in six
months.
1003
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,800
Y'all ain't did nothing to be
pissed off at each other about,
1004
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:10,680
so come on.
But anyway, Madame Nay ends up
1005
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,760
finding them because the first
time her soldiers came around,
1006
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,040
the couple gave them like some
food and stuff to get them off
1007
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,280
the grounds.
But apparently the dude, the old
1008
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,120
guy.
Told her soldiers, yeah, they're
1009
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,680
here, come back, they're
supposed to leave tomorrow,
1010
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,920
Distracting them with some
truffle eggs, which I've never
1011
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,760
heard of truffle eggs.
So now I need to look them up
1012
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,120
and see what they are and
whether or not they are really
1013
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,960
as good as they taste because
they were making it seem like
1014
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,560
this was gold on the plate.
Carol and Darrell were both
1015
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,640
impressed.
Madame Janay ended up eating
1016
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,680
some.
She was like, oh, truffle eggs.
1017
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,240
I was like, what the fuck is a
truffle egg?
1018
01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:01,120
I don't I don't know.
But Madame Janay.
1019
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:09,520
So did we not say that as soon
as Carol set foot in France,
1020
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,160
Madame Janay's days are out are
are numbered.
1021
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,680
And we also said that Carol was
going to have to be the one to
1022
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,280
kill Janae and Daryl was going
to be the one to kill Losain.
1023
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,760
That's what we were saying when
we were talking about them.
1024
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,360
And Carol most definitely held
up her end of the bargain.
1025
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,640
Because when I say, I was not
expecting that to happen to
1026
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:36,240
Madam Janae when Carol shot the
serum into her back and shot it
1027
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,120
in a place where she couldn't
remove it.
1028
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,280
Right.
So she couldn't do the Carol
1029
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,840
thing where we just.
And she didn't have on a leather
1030
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,280
jacket.
No, it went right through the
1031
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,120
skin, right?
Through.
1032
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,560
Her eyes, but it's the best way
for her to die.
1033
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,640
It is.
It very much is.
1034
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,640
She definitely earned that
death.
1035
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,680
Yeah, she did.
It was great.
1036
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,440
But I was.
I'll be late though, but it was
1037
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,960
great.
It was.
1038
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,240
It was.
I wasn't expecting that to
1039
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,120
happen to her.
Right.
1040
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,480
Not so.
Not so.
1041
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,560
Oh, right, No.
No.
1042
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,800
No, no, the the reaction of the
serum.
1043
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,840
I wasn't expecting that to have
her whole face.
1044
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:16,840
Damn this.
Well, I said.
1045
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,400
Right.
Right.
1046
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,600
It did.
Because you would think.
1047
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,400
But then again, they probably
weren't thinking that far.
1048
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,160
They were just like, OK, we need
to figure out how to make this
1049
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:34,280
serum to make these walkers, you
know, weapons that we can
1050
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,920
control.
Because that was what she said
1051
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,960
at the beginning of the episode.
That was what they were working
1052
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,400
on.
But they weren't looking for
1053
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,040
they weren't.
They weren't looking for the
1054
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,360
result it would have on you on
on on live.
1055
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,280
Right, because if that was the
case, y'all would have done
1056
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:55,440
something a little bit different
because that was not the way to
1057
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,600
go.
I know she felt pain in every
1058
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,640
single part, but at the same
time, I was like this.
1059
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,240
I said it had to be Carol to
kill her.
1060
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,920
And I know we were talking about
was it the last episode or two
1061
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,640
episodes ago when we were like,
why didn't Darryl just kill her?
1062
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,680
Oh no, it was the first episode.
We were like, Darryl could have
1063
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,040
just shot her and been done with
it.
1064
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:20,640
And I had to sit here and think,
aside from Leah because she was
1065
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,440
trying to kill Maggie, has
Darryl killed another woman
1066
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:29,280
before?
Because Daryl might be one of
1067
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,680
those people that's like, I'm
not going to hit a woman.
1068
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,880
I'm not going to shoot a woman,
that sort of thing.
1069
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,160
And maybe that was why he
hesitated with Madam Janae.
1070
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,600
But I was sitting here thinking,
I was like, I know he killed
1071
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,760
Leah, but Leah was literally on
top of Maggie, about to kill
1072
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,160
her.
But I can't think of any other
1073
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,800
instance where Daryl killed a
woman, like a live woman, maybe
1074
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,840
a Walker.
Yeah.
1075
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,200
But I can't think of any other
instance.
1076
01:03:55,200 --> 01:04:02,760
Can you?
Did he not kill any of the trash
1077
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,480
people?
That the trash people and also
1078
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,920
the I can't think of their names
right now skin.
1079
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,720
Who?
The skin wearing ones.
1080
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,240
The whispers, the.
Whispers.
1081
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:19,160
He didn't kill any whispers.
Not any women whispers that I
1082
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,440
can think of.
How do we know when it was in
1083
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,080
that big group and they were
just killing people?
1084
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,280
I don't know, but I mean, maybe
he did that this course they
1085
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,000
they had the mask on so he
wouldn't have known if they were
1086
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:31,760
women or not.
He.
1087
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,240
Just was killing.
But yeah, because, yeah, but if
1088
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,880
you think about it, like him
face to face with somebody with
1089
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,040
with the people that he fights
killing, I don't think he's ever
1090
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,120
killed a woman before.
So that way.
1091
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,120
He has probably in a large
group, but you talk about
1092
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,280
combat, probably no, because he
normally gets in combat with men
1093
01:04:54,600 --> 01:05:01,160
and women normally don't like
take him on, right?
1094
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,120
Again, I want to say like, I
love it when people get the
1095
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,400
death they deserve.
Yes, because you did that to
1096
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,360
people.
So you end up getting injected
1097
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,160
with your own serum.
Perfect.
1098
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,720
And and the even more poetic
part is I know you say she did
1099
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,160
it to people, but she killed the
people first to do that to them.
1100
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,440
So the fact is, she got it when
she was alive.
1101
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:28,880
Right.
So that's what I'm saying she
1102
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,160
deserved.
You still kill people and.
1103
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,480
She felt everything and then
when she looked in the mirror
1104
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,000
and saw herself turning, I was
like.
1105
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,080
That was so cool.
That was so cool.
1106
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,160
I was like, yes, go ahead and
see the monster that you're
1107
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:51,680
about to become, because when I
say you deserve it, you deserve
1108
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,720
it.
And both Daryl and Carol looking
1109
01:05:53,720 --> 01:06:00,440
at her like we don't know who's
going to be like they didn't
1110
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,560
know.
But so like my screen name says,
1111
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,800
Ding Dong, the witch is dead.
One down, one to go, because
1112
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,360
again, you killed Isabel.
Los ain't got to die.
1113
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:17,160
Absolutely.
But now you taking your mission
1114
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,240
to a whole other level, even
when you're saying it towards
1115
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,840
the end, because once Madam
Janae's people go back and they
1116
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,720
tell those saying that, you
know, Janae is dead, they tell
1117
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:33,280
her Santa and he's like, oh, she
went after the boy and now she's
1118
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:34,440
dead.
Because they had that
1119
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,320
conversation, him and Madam
Janae, because she was like,
1120
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,120
yeah, guys going to be on my
side because I'm going to go
1121
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,480
find him and I'm going to kill
him and blah, blah, blah.
1122
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,040
So they're both thinking this.
And then of course now she dies.
1123
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:50,200
So he thinks, oh, she went after
him and now she's dead.
1124
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,000
That shows God is on our side.
I was like, no, that shows God
1125
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,680
ain't got around to you yet
'cause what you die is some is
1126
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,760
some deranged shit too, no?
God on Darrell's side.
1127
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,840
How about this?
How about he on Laurent's side?
1128
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:11,560
Let's let's put it like that.
But so now you come in, they let
1129
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,040
you free because they're saying
your way doesn't work.
1130
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,800
Our way doesn't work.
So what are we going to do?
1131
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,360
We're going to go together and
now we're going to search for
1132
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,520
this boy.
All is forgiven and da da da.
1133
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:30,680
And I was like, you know what?
You bout to die too.
1134
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:36,160
Because not only are you really
believing in your own bullshit,
1135
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,840
you're preaching this to your
followers.
1136
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,000
So now your followers.
Are.
1137
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,600
They going to sit here and
think, Oh yeah, well, you know,
1138
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,960
this is what's going to happen.
We're going to, we're going to
1139
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,800
join with the, what is it, Pavar
de Vivant?
1140
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,480
And we're, we're going to go get
La Ront back and he's going to
1141
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,080
be our leader and he's going to
do.
1142
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,440
I was like, you know, what, Did
y'all not even remember that
1143
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,640
this man was about to let a
Walker bite La Ront just to
1144
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,840
prove his point.
I was like, OK, you know what?
1145
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:10,240
Y'all totally missed that part.
All of y'all can die at this
1146
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,680
point.
Y'all following this man blindly
1147
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,920
like right?
Kill someone for the sake you
1148
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,560
know a perfectly.
Good human.
1149
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,960
Excuse me, let's kill a
perfectly good child.
1150
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,840
Yeah.
And he can be our leader and he
1151
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,840
can lead us into the future and
blah blah blah blah blah.
1152
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,880
It would be fine if y'all had
this little fanatic obsession
1153
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,560
with him, if y'all weren't
trying to kill them.
1154
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,120
And I understand things like
this.
1155
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,000
They all.
There's always a sacrifice.
1156
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,080
Whatever, I don't believe in
that shit.
1157
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:50,040
Leave the what the fuck alone?
But they I'm sorry, I'm sorry at
1158
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:58,080
this point with knowing that
Daryl and Carol show up and
1159
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,319
number one, LeBron is always
safe, but everybody associated
1160
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,160
with trying to harm them get
fucked up.
1161
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,560
What would you continue to go
after them?
1162
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,439
I'm sorry.
Oh, they want to so and so went
1163
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,399
after Oh, they did so and so
went after Oh, they did so and
1164
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:19,680
so went after they did.
Our people would not read the
1165
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,160
room.
Read the fucking room.
1166
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,720
They are not.
Because everybody that goes
1167
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:27,800
after them.
Died right?
1168
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:34,560
How many times is Madam Janae
tried to kill Daryl and who
1169
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,720
ended up dead hurt?
Even though they don't know that
1170
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,560
it was Carol but still they know
they know the Americans are
1171
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,120
together so one of them mother
fuckers killed her.
1172
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,200
Yeah, but most likely Daryl,
because they know Daryl.
1173
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,520
They know.
Everybody know the American
1174
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,319
Daryl.
Everybody know the American
1175
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,560
Daryl.
They got American Carol at this
1176
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,680
point.
Does that mean?
1177
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,480
But again, then I think it's
common sense because here's the
1178
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:05,040
thing, OK, Yeah.
You know, Darrell, you know,
1179
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,760
he's the American.
You know, he's the one that's
1180
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,880
been thwarting everybody's plans
and doing this and doing that.
1181
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,440
This bitch came from across the
sea.
1182
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:19,000
She found a way to get to Paris
to come and rescue her BFF.
1183
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,200
That's the one y'all need to be
worried about because that's the
1184
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,360
one that probably ain't got her
screws in tight.
1185
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,600
She got on a plane 12 years into
a zombie apocalypse.
1186
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,600
Yeah, I wouldn't have done that.
And came to Paris to look for
1187
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,280
her bestie.
That's the woman y'all don't
1188
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,720
want to fuck with.
And Madam Janae found that out
1189
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,600
the hard way.
I'm telling.
1190
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:52,280
You find out the hard way too.
Find out the hard way what was
1191
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,760
it you said, Casey?
You said that's going to be a
1192
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,680
good fight because Los sang
going going to have his little
1193
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,320
toothpick.
Yeah, we're gonna have his
1194
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,400
whatever.
So yeah, that's coming even next
1195
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,960
episode or the episode after
that.
1196
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,800
Because there has to be a thing
now.
1197
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,680
Because not only not only did
you keep me prisoner and you
1198
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,280
tortured me, but now you don't
kill Isabel.
1199
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:18,240
Regardless of how Daryl felt
about her, whether he loved her
1200
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,720
or not, that was still a friend.
That was still somebody.
1201
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,680
He may not have loved her
romantically, but he loved her.
1202
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,720
That was his friend.
That was somebody he grew to
1203
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,800
trust.
And you killed her trying to
1204
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,680
kill her nephew.
Darrell is about to get that
1205
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,480
ass.
He is about to beat that ass.
1206
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,960
Do you need to?
And I'm ready for it.
1207
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:48,320
I'm be like this.
Watching with popcorn, sitting
1208
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,200
there looking, 'cause that,
that's the only thing you can do
1209
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,280
now.
Yeah, it's the only thing you
1210
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:58,680
can do.
So Los ain't got it coming.
1211
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:03,080
He had it coming.
He had it coming, just like she
1212
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,800
did.
He did, and it was marvelous.
1213
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,440
It was great.
I was like, oh, look at these
1214
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:11,400
it.
Was gross as hell.
1215
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,400
I.
Mean that part too.
1216
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,920
But you know what also made me
stop and think when when is
1217
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:22,560
these people don't give up and
be walkers because some of them
1218
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,680
they get shot in the head?
What's taking so long?
1219
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,920
Where you mean at the nest?
No, I'm talking about the house,
1220
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:31,560
some of her stuff.
I.
1221
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,520
Figured when they buried old
girl they probably went through
1222
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:36,520
and make sure everybody was
there.
1223
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,880
OK, yeah, but still I thought
somebody would turn.
1224
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,440
Like even though I thought old
girl was going to turn because
1225
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:44,240
he'd been hit in there hugging
her, it took her a while.
1226
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,080
Well.
Think about it because most of
1227
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:51,800
the times when regular humans
die, remember it kind of varies
1228
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,880
how quick they turn.
Us so it does vary so I assume
1229
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,680
that couple of the you know so
soldiers would have gotten up.
1230
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,640
I'm just saying it's a couple,
but I know that they took care.
1231
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,200
It don't play, you know, it
doesn't play with the emotions
1232
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,240
that we were going with.
So I know they took.
1233
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,920
Care of it, they took care of it
because.
1234
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:15,040
Remember on on fear when fuck is
his name?
1235
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,760
I want to say Terry.
I know that his name, but when
1236
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,960
old boy, when they were killing
the killing the people in timing
1237
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,880
them Troy, that's when they were
killing the people in timing
1238
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:29,440
them in the in the seasons.
So you know, they took them
1239
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:31,520
about 10-15 minutes to turn.
Yeah.
1240
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,520
And then you have some who who
turn a lot quicker than that.
1241
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:40,400
So yeah.
But I would assume they they
1242
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,000
went through the house because
they were like, yeah, this is
1243
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:47,400
something we don't need to do.
And even though I feel like if
1244
01:13:47,480 --> 01:13:51,440
that, I will say this.
No, because Darryl, Darryl
1245
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:56,720
probably would have done it too.
If it wasn't for the fact that
1246
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,920
they actually liked the old lady
and they stayed to bury her,
1247
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,600
they probably would have left
that man in the house with all
1248
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,480
the walkers.
Like, you know what, you deserve
1249
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:07,680
it.
You, you brought this on
1250
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,400
yourself.
But at the same time, he was
1251
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:15,680
trying to protect the woman.
And even if Darryl and Carol had
1252
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,280
left the village, Janae's
soldiers probably would have
1253
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,920
kept coming back.
And again, if they've been
1254
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,920
living there in peace for
however many years they've been
1255
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,000
there together, they probably
will like, look, let's just give
1256
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,400
them what they're looking for.
They will leave us alone.
1257
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,200
They will know that we, you
know, that we are loyal.
1258
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:38,200
We are not harboring criminals
or fugitives or whatever.
1259
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,400
And they'll leave us alone.
So I think that was really his
1260
01:14:42,440 --> 01:14:45,200
his motivation.
He just wanted to be left alone
1261
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,560
with the woman he loved for
however long they had.
1262
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,480
And unfortunately, when you
double cross Darryl and Carol,
1263
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:54,240
that shit does not work out for
you.
1264
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,800
So.
It don't even matter if you
1265
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:04,120
double cross or not, if they
enter your lives, it's over so.
1266
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,680
Yeah, they show up.
Michelle, they just, they just
1267
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,280
show up and you're like, oh,
it's my time to go.
1268
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,120
I just don't know when.
They they obviously wasn't
1269
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,600
paying attention because I mean,
Madam Janae should have
1270
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,480
understood.
Like how many times have you
1271
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:20,040
tried to get Daryl at this
point?
1272
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,120
How many times have you well
after you saw that small little?
1273
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,720
Old lady.
She's not really old, but when
1274
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:32,160
you saw that old little lady
duck behind, you see her duck
1275
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:37,760
behind the big man, but when you
see her Sprint to the Jeep, you
1276
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,040
should have known something.
Right.
1277
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,320
Uneasy to kill?
Y'all shot her in the shoulder
1278
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:49,520
with one of your serum atom
arrows or darts and she took
1279
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,640
that shit out of her shoulder
like it was nothing and was like
1280
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:58,680
oh this what y'all want to do I
got you bit and ran to the and
1281
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:05,680
not only that all your soldiers
and all that high tech machinery
1282
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,840
y'all can shoot her not once
Y'all can't even graze a leg
1283
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,520
like that should have told you
right then and there.
1284
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,360
OK you know what we don't want
to fuck with her.
1285
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:19,160
We just going to leave her alone
and.
1286
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:20,440
Look.
Oh, she's.
1287
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:22,760
Going to go to Daryl so she can
lead us to him.
1288
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,280
That's what they should have
done.
1289
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,880
They should have just been like,
OK, you know what, let's just
1290
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,200
go.
But of course they had their
1291
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:33,240
walkers.
The walkers were running.
1292
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:34,920
They were going straight to the
nest.
1293
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,440
They were following Carol and
Codron.
1294
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,840
So I guess they were like, OK,
you know what?
1295
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,120
The walkers will finish what we
what we started 'cause there
1296
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:48,120
really isn't too many ways that
they can get off of Mont St.
1297
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:52,880
Michel.
And then Codron, you know, he
1298
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,920
gets off when Carol frees him,
he goes and he's like, yeah,
1299
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,600
I'll hold them off for you.
Tell tell Dixon I did it for the
1300
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,800
boy.
I was like, OK, so maybe Codrone
1301
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,920
didn't make it, but maybe he
did.
1302
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:10,720
Who knows?
But he has clearly turned to
1303
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,960
Daryl side and I hope him and
Daryl get to have that
1304
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,840
conversation and they can have
that, you know.
1305
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,640
So why have you been trying to
kill me for the last six months?
1306
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,040
Oh, because you killed my
brother.
1307
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,000
What makes you think I killed
your brother?
1308
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,560
Oh no, who is your brother?
Right, right.
1309
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,040
That too.
Yeah, and that part like when
1310
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:34,680
people at this point I don't.
Know that girl in the grandpa
1311
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,200
killed her because maybe once he
maybe once cuz your own finds
1312
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,040
out he'll feel justified because
he did kill the old man.
1313
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,320
I think he let the girl go if I
remember correctly.
1314
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,280
But you did kill the old man, so
you did they get vengeance for
1315
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,920
your brother in in some way?
You just didn't know it.
1316
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:54,000
So let's hope that he survived
so they can at least have that
1317
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,040
conversation.
But I'm I, I kind of feel like
1318
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,400
this too.
Unless if Cadrone has survived,
1319
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:07,840
if he decides to stay with
Darryl and Carol, as far as like
1320
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:12,840
trying to fight the newly
formed, I don't know.
1321
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:19,560
Whatever they call Union of
Hope, whatever that combination
1322
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:24,200
is, I don't know if he's going
to survive because again,
1323
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,040
they're moving to Spain for the
third season.
1324
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,200
We don't know where the
storyline is going.
1325
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,360
But is control really going to
leave France?
1326
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,320
Well, I guess, I guess at this
point he really has no reason to
1327
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:39,200
stay in France, if you think
about it, because his brother's
1328
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,880
gone.
Most of his men are gone.
1329
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,280
The person that he was employed
by, she's dead.
1330
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,440
Her people are now joined with
MO Sang.
1331
01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:55,160
And if Cadrone is all about, oh,
I, I believe in Laurent, he's
1332
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,920
not going to follow them because
they're trying to kill Laurent,
1333
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,960
right?
So maybe we'll maybe we'll
1334
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,360
escape this season with one
person from the show to go into
1335
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,560
the next season.
One person look.
1336
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,760
'Cause everybody else dead.
We already know what Sang is
1337
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,240
about to die.
Look Ash, 'cause you need the
1338
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:14,840
pilot.
Oh, well, yeah, and Ash.
1339
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,040
But Ash started in the States,
so I'm I'm talking about the
1340
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,360
French people.
We'll we'll have nobody.
1341
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,240
You don't think a drone will
make it?
1342
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:27,400
No, the the the nest already on
fire.
1343
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,280
He.
Probably got away.
1344
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,400
But I'm saying that Sanctuary is
on fire.
1345
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:39,160
Like how you gonna fix that?
What I mean, Los Angina are
1346
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,160
still there because that's where
they were meeting.
1347
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:42,720
Yeah, but.
OK.
1348
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,200
So they probably put it on.
Fire.
1349
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,600
They probably put the fires out.
And now that Madam and they
1350
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,480
gone.
Oh, you, you know when the what
1351
01:19:49,480 --> 01:19:51,680
they say when the when the hands
away the fox, the playoff,
1352
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,960
please that that's about to be
chaos up in there.
1353
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:55,720
Who's going?
To run that.
1354
01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:59,080
Cause who's going to run that?
They going to think they, you
1355
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,160
know, with with the they.
Already got Losang in charge the
1356
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,840
way he came out when, what's the
name, release them.
1357
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,680
And he came out to speak to his
followers and he was like
1358
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:12,240
everything is forgiven, we're
going to do blah blah, blah
1359
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,760
yeah, you about to be the big
bad and there was going to whoop
1360
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,560
your ass sometime within the
next two episodes.
1361
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,160
You either going to be beat real
bad or you going to die.
1362
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:26,000
And I think you're going to die
because there was going to be
1363
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,600
pissed off because you killed
Isabel and you left Laurent
1364
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,120
alone.
So yeah, left him with no family
1365
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:36,080
now, no, no security, no people
to protect him.
1366
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,600
He took the closest thing he had
to family.
1367
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,680
You took his aunt, and you took
the person who he grew up with
1368
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,040
as his sister.
Yeah.
1369
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,400
So yeah.
Los Angeles about to die.
1370
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,320
He bout to die.
He bout to die you.
1371
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,840
Gonna die today.
You gonna die today?
1372
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:05,080
So we have two episodes left.
There's two for the season and
1373
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:10,520
then I believe, I believe Daryl
Dixon season 3 should come out
1374
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,200
next year because the one thing
about the Daryl Dixon show, we
1375
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:18,440
have not been getting long
hiatuses with this show because
1376
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:24,040
the first season released last
year right around Dragon Con.
1377
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:29,720
This season released, you know,
right after Dragon Con in
1378
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:33,560
September.
So we may get the third season
1379
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,560
by next fall if they keep on
track.
1380
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,640
I do know that Dead City is
supposed to start sometime in
1381
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,760
2025.
And then Michelle, stop with
1382
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:48,160
that face, stop with that face,
stop with that face.
1383
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,360
We don't, we don't see what to
do.
1384
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:56,080
But I think we'll get Daryl
Dixon probably in in the fall,
1385
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,000
especially since if I'm not
mistaken, I think either they've
1386
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,120
rapped or they're close to
rapping because they've been
1387
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:07,680
filming Season 3 for a minute.
So I wonder if we'll give more
1388
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,480
than six episodes.
They're not going to give us
1389
01:22:11,480 --> 01:22:14,240
more than six episodes. 6
episodes seems to be the
1390
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:18,080
standard now because even with
shows that are coming out on
1391
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,720
other streaming platforms, like
one of the shows that we are
1392
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:25,840
planning to cover on this
podcast is the Doom Prophecy
1393
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:32,520
series on Max, which is based on
the Doom story.
1394
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,480
I checked yesterday that only
has 6 episodes.
1395
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:42,400
Yeah, I'm like, OK, no, I think
that one has eight.
1396
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:47,200
That one may have 8:00.
But even still, that's that's
1397
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,360
short, short season.
You know, we used to episode 12
1398
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,000
episode seasons.
Yeah, or even 23, but that's
1399
01:22:54,000 --> 01:23:00,560
network TV so I don't know.
But I, I have seen some articles
1400
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:04,000
lately where, you know, there
have been people talking about
1401
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,760
the shorter seasons and the long
hiatuses and they're like, y'all
1402
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,600
wonder why people don't pay
attention to shit anymore.
1403
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:15,920
And then you got play, you got
streaming companies like Netflix
1404
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,920
who are canceling right and left
after one season.
1405
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,200
Like y'all aren't even giving
the shows a chance.
1406
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:28,000
Why would you put so much money
into 8 episodes, 10 episodes and
1407
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,040
then not give it a chance to
flourish?
1408
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,680
I think all shows should have a
two season minimum at least
1409
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:40,080
because you might not get the
the the you want with the first
1410
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:46,360
season, but then you have you do
a second season.
1411
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,200
That might be where you get your
audience.
1412
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:52,240
Or I mean kind of like some of
these other one season season
1413
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,600
shows.
Firefly is a perfect example.
1414
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:58,840
You cancel it after one season
because you think it's bad and
1415
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,800
here it is 50 million years
later, people still are into
1416
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:07,120
Firefly.
So I don't know.
1417
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:12,160
But next, next fall, I hope we
get the Daryl Dixon season 3.
1418
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:20,080
Yes, I don't know what we're
doing with with Madrid, but
1419
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,560
again, it has to do.
It's going to have to be
1420
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,880
something about them trying to
escape France and something
1421
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,480
happens.
Maybe maybe Ash's plane die out
1422
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,120
plane.
Maybe the plane runs out of fuel
1423
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,000
again.
Maybe he didn't fix the fuel
1424
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:42,160
line properly or maybe Oh no,
no, no, this is going to be the
1425
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:50,200
real kicker.
So if Daryl finds Laurent, finds
1426
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:56,000
Falou, Falou may not leave
France, but Daryl will probably
1427
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,240
take Laurent with him to the
States because that's what his
1428
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,000
and him and Isabel were talking
about, going to the States,
1429
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:06,040
right?
I don't think four people can
1430
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:11,760
fit in Ashes.
Plane Well, Ash can't die
1431
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,560
because he's the only one who
knows how to fly the.
1432
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,520
Right, so he can't.
Die unless Laurent has magical
1433
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,080
powers.
No, I don't think.
1434
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,000
So he can't die till season 3
and I.
1435
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:27,840
Told you that Ash is going to
come back in season 3 with a kid
1436
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,520
and a a wife because he's been
sitting there with that plane
1437
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,600
and he met a woman that had a
kid after two we're just going
1438
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:42,080
to see him at the end the end of
the series go back to the plane
1439
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:43,760
and he don't have a wife and kid
he gonna.
1440
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:52,960
Go back to the to Greenland.
Ain't nobody left, at least not
1441
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:57,800
that we know of.
So, OK, so.
1442
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,960
So we have to keep him honestly.
But if he dies, we need someone
1443
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:06,560
who know how to fly a plane or
or a boat, right?
1444
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:07,880
That's what I was going to say.
A boat.
1445
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,480
Because, well, Losang is still
there.
1446
01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:12,960
Madam Sinead's people are still
there, so they probably still
1447
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,280
have control of the boats, but I
mean when this is over.
1448
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,320
They can get on the boat.
Yeah, not going to get on the
1449
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,480
plane.
They can't with, not with four
1450
01:26:23,480 --> 01:26:25,680
people.
So that means either somebody in
1451
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,560
the group has to die, which
means it'll probably end up
1452
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,680
being Laurent or.
No, he's not going to die.
1453
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,920
They would not kill it.
Well, we do kill it's.
1454
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:39,160
Going to have to be the other.
The only other real option would
1455
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:43,720
be Carol because if there's a
season 3 of Daryl Dixon, you're
1456
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:48,440
not going to kill Daryl Dixon.
If you kill can't kill Ash
1457
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,120
because Ash is the pilot.
No you can't kill Ash because
1458
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,360
they can go home.
Other options.
1459
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,120
So Ash is is can die, Ash can
die.
1460
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,440
But I'm, I'm looking at the more
immediate option.
1461
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:04,120
I'm talking about if they are
talking about using the plane.
1462
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,520
If they're still talking about
using the plane, it's not going
1463
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,040
to work with the four of them
because Ash flew that plane.
1464
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:13,600
They're thinking they were going
to pick up a 1212 years from
1465
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,160
now.
Sophia probably would have been,
1466
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:24,680
at the very least, she would
have been 2021, 2021, maybe 19,
1467
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,640
because I don't remember how old
she was when she died, But she
1468
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,400
and Carl were somewhere around
the same age.
1469
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:33,400
So she had to be somewhere
between, like, 8:00 and 11:00
1470
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,960
because I think Carl was
supposed to be like, right
1471
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,160
around 8:00 or 9:00 when we met
him.
1472
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:46,960
So yeah, you're expecting to
had, you know, bring this woman.
1473
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,760
She's not going to, she's not
going to weigh a lot.
1474
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:54,000
Just just thinking default wise,
you're probably thinking slim
1475
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,800
build.
Carol is not a big person, so
1476
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,560
Sophia might have taken after
her.
1477
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,800
She would have been slim build.
She would have been slight.
1478
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,800
She would have been light, not
too heavy.
1479
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,360
You can fly with the three of
those on that plane.
1480
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:09,480
You can't get somebody of
Daryl's size and Lauren and
1481
01:28:09,480 --> 01:28:14,320
Carol and Ash on that plane.
So either y'all don't take the
1482
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:18,640
plane and all of y'all leave, or
somebody takes the plane and
1483
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:22,680
either somebody dies or someone
gets left behind.
1484
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,800
Maybe that's how they end up in
Spain because they're like, OK,
1485
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,960
will you go on the plane?
We're going to go this.
1486
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,560
There's so many possibilities,
but.
1487
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,800
All four, maybe they all try to
fit and they they all try to fit
1488
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,320
and they don't.
As far as they get in Spain,
1489
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,040
yeah, that's possible.
That could be, yeah, I think.
1490
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,200
That.
It it'll just be low flying, you
1491
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:47,240
know, fun, get you up high
enough to be out of danger and
1492
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:51,360
but it.
But the end, the end, end.
1493
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:56,520
I think Laurent will go back to
the States and he would try to
1494
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,760
spit some game with Judith and
she going to be like, no, that
1495
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,600
don't work, but we could be
cousins.
1496
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,960
That's what's going to happen.
Yeah, that's big game 'cause
1497
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,280
we're not going to kill a Ron.
I mean, we're really not.
1498
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,760
And if you kill Carol, I'm like,
done.
1499
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:15,680
Yeah, I don't think Carol would
die either.
1500
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:16,960
You can't go.
You can.
1501
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,640
OK, first of all, I can't.
It will 'cause if you kill
1502
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,560
either one of them, right?
Period.
1503
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:28,120
They survived this too long.
And for her to get all the way
1504
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,320
to Paris, go through everything
she went through to get this,
1505
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,840
that's kill her.
All that and I said then last
1506
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,880
episode, but.
Because at the end they have to
1507
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:37,960
make it back to the
Commonwealth.
1508
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,880
It whatever that looks like
their final season last episode.
1509
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:47,400
Same way God damn the ones who
live, you got to make it back to
1510
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:48,640
the Commonwealth.
Yeah.
1511
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,560
So be fucking for real.
They ain't going to give up.
1512
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:56,320
Yeah, so again.
But they're going to make it.
1513
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:00,960
Yeah, but they can't put all
them people on the plane, so we.
1514
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,360
Just got to get home a different
way.
1515
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:03,720
We just got to get home a
different way.
1516
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:06,880
But you can't drive from Spain
to America.
1517
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:13,000
No, no, but, but they can.
I mean, we don't, we don't know
1518
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,680
what what's going on in other
countries.
1519
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,320
So we don't know what Spain may
have access to.
1520
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,200
We don't know what what the
situation is there.
1521
01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:24,800
So, you know, just like in
France, they did everything with
1522
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,200
boats and they have a lot of
boats.
1523
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,320
They might have planes in Spain
and the span, you know, the
1524
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,080
people in Madrid were probably
like, yeah, if this is what it
1525
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,640
looked like here, We're not
going nowhere else in the world.
1526
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,600
We don't care about them.
We just don't keep our shit to
1527
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,200
ourselves.
They they could very well do
1528
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,560
that.
So I don't know.
1529
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:47,520
We'll, I think we'll probably be
better able to figure out or to
1530
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:54,240
guess what's going on.
Maybe after next episode, but
1531
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,160
definitely by episode 6 we going
to figure out what the hell is
1532
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,360
going on.
But I think it's fun to try to
1533
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:02,440
guess because there are, you
know, when you start talking
1534
01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:04,400
about it, when we start talking
about it, there are more
1535
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:09,600
scenarios than we think, you
know, because the plane is not
1536
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:14,760
the only thing available.
They could, like we said, get on
1537
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:16,600
a boat.
They could travel to other
1538
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,480
countries and then make their
way that way.
1539
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:24,520
We don't know.
But no, I don't think Carol is
1540
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,040
going to die.
But I'm just saying, if that was
1541
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:30,440
something maybe, and we don't
know, maybe Melissa McBride was
1542
01:31:30,440 --> 01:31:34,360
like, you know what, I'll come
back and do this season, but I'm
1543
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,280
tired.
I don't want to do this anymore.
1544
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,160
She could very well have said
that.
1545
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,920
Yeah, and she could say she want
wants to die.
1546
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,080
And you know what?
If she does, it will be she
1547
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,920
sacrificed herself to say Daryl
and Laura.
1548
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:49,840
Yeah, and now?
I don't like that, but I'm OK
1549
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,880
because I get that because she
will say don't keep me alive
1550
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,920
because that means I have a
possibility having to come back
1551
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,480
and we negotiate back and forth
about me coming back and I don't
1552
01:31:59,480 --> 01:32:03,400
want to come back, but that
would make it where I'm never
1553
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,920
coming back.
Yeah, but I don't think that's
1554
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:09,560
going to happen either.
I don't think Darrell or Carol
1555
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:14,240
would be killed.
The only reason why I would say
1556
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:19,320
that they probably would kill
Laurent is because I know when
1557
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:23,240
it comes to this show and
emotional ties with characters
1558
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:27,760
or whatever they really don't
care especially even when it
1559
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:32,200
comes to children because y'all
kill Carl off and Carl should
1560
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,520
still be here so.
Yeah, but we know why.
1561
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,120
So that's that.
And I and I understand it, but
1562
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,800
but taking all of that out,
taking all of that out, if you
1563
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:47,280
just looking at the story.
It makes no sense for Laurent to
1564
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,400
die and.
It makes sense for Carl.
1565
01:32:49,480 --> 01:32:52,360
To die, but Carl had to die
because we couldn't.
1566
01:32:52,440 --> 01:32:55,240
We couldn't keep Carl.
So you have to think of another
1567
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:59,760
kid who was willing to stay.
I'm just saying Carl had to go.
1568
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:03,480
It's not like we haven't killed
children on this show before.
1569
01:33:03,480 --> 01:33:07,080
No, we have.
We have killed, but I'm just
1570
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:14,080
saying Laurent because we making
Dale invest in this kid for him
1571
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:19,680
to die at the end and then Daryl
come back that that's there was
1572
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:23,520
no point.
It was a point for Isabel to to
1573
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,320
move the story on.
There's no point.
1574
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,240
Things have happened it.
Has, but I just feel like
1575
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:32,280
Laurent will come to America now
if he died later.
1576
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:37,320
OK, sure.
You know, when they go try to
1577
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:43,080
save Maggie or something,
Laurent may die.
1578
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,680
And we'd be like, oh, poor
Laurent, he came to America.
1579
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:49,440
Lasted a month.
I mean, yeah, but Daryl got him
1580
01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:51,040
here, and Daryl kept his
promise.
1581
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:55,080
So we need him to keep his
promise and to do what he need
1582
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:56,640
needed to.
See and then see.
1583
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,320
For me, that would be that would
be the part that makes no sense.
1584
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,440
You get you make you keep your
promise, you keep them safe.
1585
01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:05,720
You get them all the way to the
Americas and then he dies
1586
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,160
because then you're going to
have their guilt like, Oh, I
1587
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,520
should have just left them in
front.
1588
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:13,160
So that's fine.
Again, look, we we can put
1589
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,240
everything on one of those
wheels and just kind of spin for
1590
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,640
the possibilities and determine
like that.
1591
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,800
You know, I said something about
having a Deadpool for, I don't
1592
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,240
remember if it was this show or
something else we were talking
1593
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,640
about, but I'm like, yeah, maybe
we should just put down our
1594
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:33,360
predictions on how this season
will end and then just go back
1595
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,440
and see which one of us was
right.
1596
01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:37,480
Or, you know, that might be
funny.
1597
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,920
We'll do that for Season 3.
Right.
1598
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,520
How will this end?
Because it may be the end of two
1599
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,720
and Leroy's dead and we're going
on to Season 3.
1600
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,800
We like what what happened.
And I'm going to be like I told
1601
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,520
you also.
But Carrie and Noah, So what
1602
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,240
they're going to do is at.
That point, Season 3 just going
1603
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:58,480
to be about getting home hell.
Yeah, well, you know, you know
1604
01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:00,800
they go.
They'll be like the equalizer.
1605
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,680
He just going to be taking out
his revenge.
1606
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,000
Yeah, and, you know, they are
very good about.
1607
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:14,200
Oh, wait, OK, I'm gonna hold
that thought.
1608
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,960
But, you know, they are very
good for introducing.
1609
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,720
And I'm not talking about just
Walking Dead, but, you know, TV
1610
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:24,280
shows have a very good track
record of introducing the new
1611
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,040
big bad in the very last episode
of the season.
1612
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:32,280
That might carry us on.
But I just thought about
1613
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:36,720
something as far as Spain goes.
What?
1614
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,920
Who's in Spain?
Not even who's in Spain.
1615
01:35:42,440 --> 01:35:44,360
Placenta is a Spanish name,
isn't it?
1616
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:56,680
Yeah, what do you carry?
On maybe she going to be the big
1617
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,440
bad because remember she's the
one that's been kind of standing
1618
01:36:00,440 --> 01:36:03,680
behind low saying pushing him to
do stuff.
1619
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:08,640
So maybe.
She works for a big bad or
1620
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:12,080
organization.
Either there or if Daryl if
1621
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,800
Daryl kills Lo sang, her sensor
is right there.
1622
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:19,880
If she's Lo sangs second in
command she might be the one to
1623
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:24,560
move the the movement further.
And if she's if they're still
1624
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,800
after Daryl, maybe they'll go to
Spain for that.
1625
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,680
I'm just saying because other
than that I can't think of any
1626
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:33,240
other reason why they would go
to Madrid.
1627
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,280
Except for that plane falling
out the sky.
1628
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,320
Right, so.
But you wouldn't even go that
1629
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,240
direction.
Right.
1630
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,320
And that's what I was thinking
because I was like, isn't
1631
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:53,800
staying on the other side like
not towards the ocean?
1632
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,520
It's South of them.
Let's see.
1633
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,480
OK.
Yeah, South of them.
1634
01:36:59,960 --> 01:37:12,240
I'm looking it up too.
So yeah, I yeah, OK, so so we'll
1635
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:16,600
think about this a little bit
more and then maybe episode 6,
1636
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:20,680
we'll all have our theories as
far as what takes them to Spain.
1637
01:37:21,480 --> 01:37:26,640
Yeah, I mean, Spain is South of
France, but Madrid is super
1638
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,920
inland.
It ain't nowhere near the water.
1639
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:36,080
So that so that makes no OK.
You have to keep it really.
1640
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:42,360
It really doesn't so.
Unless they're doing that to
1641
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:46,520
kind of throw off Losang and his
followers, because if they have
1642
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:51,680
a plane low and and Losang finds
this out, he could probably be
1643
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:55,000
like, oh, they're going to go.
They're going to go home now.
1644
01:37:55,000 --> 01:38:00,040
I don't, I would say on a
regular, if it was a regular
1645
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:03,560
situation, no saying is not
about to go to the to the United
1646
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:08,120
States.
But if Daryl has la want, that
1647
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:13,200
might be enough motivation for
him to go to the States to try
1648
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,760
to get Laurent back.
Because remember, he doesn't
1649
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:22,000
want to kill Laurent per SE.
He wants to do this ceremony to,
1650
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,360
to prove that Laurent can
survive the bite.
1651
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,720
That is his whole thing.
It's not like he was trying to
1652
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,920
kill Laurent.
Whereas Madam Janae was
1653
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,400
definitely trying to kill
Laurent because Laurent
1654
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,000
contradicted what she was trying
to do.
1655
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:45,160
So I guess we'll figure it out.
Like I said, we'll, we'll watch
1656
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:50,560
Episode 5 and then if we don't
have anything in that episode to
1657
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:55,400
tell us or to point us towards
Madrid and what might happen to
1658
01:38:55,400 --> 01:39:00,000
get them there, then we can
maybe, you know, put out our
1659
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,040
theories on what's going to
happen in Episode 6 and how to
1660
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,640
end up in Madrid.
Because again, right now, with
1661
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:09,880
us not knowing, the
possibilities are endless.
1662
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:12,880
Absolutely right.
And we really need to know how
1663
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:17,360
they got there because if they
right, that's two hours and some
1664
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:23,200
change.
If they walk, it's 273 hours.
1665
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:28,360
If they're in a car.
That said, I had to look it up.
1666
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:34,840
If they're in a car, oh, it's
what, 1312 hours?
1667
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,200
OK.
And that's that's on, that's on
1668
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,320
regular Rd.
So that's not considering that
1669
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,320
they may run out of gas that the
vehicles have may have been
1670
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:49,120
sitting there for however long.
That's not counting that they
1671
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:53,440
may encounter walkers or they
may counter encounter other
1672
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:58,080
hostile people.
So that's best case scenario.
1673
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:02,000
So yeah, so we'll think.
That's just that's, I don't
1674
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:02,440
know.
We.
1675
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,920
I don't know.
We'll watch episode 5 and then
1676
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,120
we'll think about our theories
and then we'll put them out
1677
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,400
there and then we'll see how how
things go.
1678
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,360
Yep.
Sound good?
1679
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:14,280
Sound like a plan?
Sound like.
1680
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,920
Yeah, sound like a plan.
You guys have any final thoughts
1681
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:22,360
about this episode?
No, go try it and get back.
1682
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,000
Away.
Wait, what you say, Casey?
1683
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:27,720
I said.
I'm just glad they're back
1684
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,080
together now.
They get over on this in
1685
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,720
fighting and act like they love
each other.
1686
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,440
Right and, and go kill those
things.
1687
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,600
That's what we need.
So on that note, that is it for
1688
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,440
our show.
You can find us online at
1689
01:40:41,440 --> 01:40:45,680
www.phantomhybrid.com.
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1690
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,280
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Hybrid.
1691
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,960
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Discord channel.
1692
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,920
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1693
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:56,000
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1694
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:57,840
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1695
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:31,410
conversation next time.
Music.
00:00:25,030 --> 00:00:27,990
What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode
2
00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:31,630
of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here
3
00:00:31,630 --> 00:00:36,470
with Casey and Michelle and we
are discussing episode 4 of
4
00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:40,870
Season 2 of Daryl Dixon.
Hello.
5
00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,800
So I know we're going to go in
order, but I'm just going to say
6
00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:55,480
this episode, it made me happy,
yes, and it made me mad, and
7
00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,840
then it made me happy again.
Yes, it was.
8
00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,520
There was a lot of emotion in
this episode and I was not quite
9
00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,800
ready for all of that to hit me
at once.
10
00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,200
It was like, what are y'all
trying to do to me?
11
00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,800
What are y'all trying to do to
me?
12
00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,840
I agree.
Let's start at the top Madam to
13
00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:24,040
May and her little army of
enhanced walkers, because she
14
00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,480
actually does kill the crowd
that she has brought to the
15
00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,920
nest.
Carol, of course, as we
16
00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,560
discussed in the last episode,
hid behind the big dude, so she.
17
00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,440
Didn't I'm calling her James
Bond Carroll, 'cause I was like,
18
00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,280
how you getting out of this way?
Listen.
19
00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,840
They even shot her with one of
the serum arrows and she was
20
00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,480
able to quit.
She got that off.
21
00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,880
Real quick, real quick, she's
like.
22
00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,120
The.
Leather because they hit that
23
00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,240
leather jacket, so it really
didn't get through that leather
24
00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,960
jacket.
OK 'cause my thought was how did
25
00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,600
it hit?
How you how none of it getting
26
00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,960
you like name?
Well, dribble jibble.
27
00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,000
Like you ain't getting up no
stick.
28
00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,760
She got that off off off real
quick, real quick.
29
00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,080
So at that point, at that point
I was like OK, you got it off
30
00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,040
but they bout to turn and you
still alive.
31
00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,200
So how you gonna get from this
group?
32
00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,440
And I get shot leaving the
group.
33
00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:24,480
We saw Carol being Super Carol,
as she always is.
34
00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,920
She was being track star Carol
'cause when I say sis got the
35
00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:36,240
hell on, she ran dodging bullets
and she takes the dune buggy
36
00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,800
that they actually have Cadrone
strapped to I.
37
00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,280
I don't know if we mentioned
that in the last episode, but
38
00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:47,160
they had Cadrone strapped to a
Jeep because they were going to
39
00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,760
use him as bait to like lure the
walkers to the nest.
40
00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,240
So Carol gets on it with him and
they go chasing.
41
00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,280
They go straight to the nest.
And I was like, Karen, why would
42
00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,760
you leave the oh, OK, she has to
go get a friend out.
43
00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,480
So I was like OK, but when I
tell y'all we I know we've had
44
00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,760
this discussion before and I'm a
say it again and I'm a reiterate
45
00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,720
it again just in case we are all
alive during a zombie
46
00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,680
apocalypse.
Those bitches start running.
47
00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:23,360
I'm done, I'm done.
I'm just going to find a corner
48
00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,800
somewhere and just sit there and
just wait for the inevitable Ant
49
00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,400
all.
You can do.
50
00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,960
That's all you can do.
Because no, you saw Carol.
51
00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,360
Carol was struggling.
I was like, OK, Carol is used to
52
00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,120
slow walkers.
Carol is not used to having to
53
00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,240
run for her life.
And I know she was probably like
54
00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,960
son of a bitch.
What the hell is this to go from
55
00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,960
episode 1 walkers to track
stars?
56
00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:56,800
Oh no no no no.
But remember she saw it and when
57
00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,200
they was peeking through the
gate so she knew they was going
58
00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,480
to get get up and go fast.
Yeah, but that they weren't even
59
00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,880
going that fast when she was on
Ash's land or are you talking
60
00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,720
about?
When her and old boy was looking
61
00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:10,880
peeking.
Through the gate, Yeah.
62
00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,520
Yeah, Well, I mean, I knew.
'Cause he got up and ran towards
63
00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,920
her and she shot him, you know,
as he got up to like.
64
00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,519
So she started a little Sprint.
He did, yeah.
65
00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,280
But it's different when you got
Freeland and, you know, no, you
66
00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:30,360
just straight open field.
Yeah, and it's also different
67
00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,720
when it's one and then you got
like more than a dozen coming
68
00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,240
after you, right?
I mean running.
69
00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,960
Either way, she had to get them
out of there so wasn't going to
70
00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,360
end up well for her.
This is like war War Z, yes.
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And I have said it before
because we've referenced that
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movie as well.
And I was like, when my kids
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were younger and we saw that
movie, I I turned to them and I
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told them, I said, if there's
ever zombies in our lifetime and
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they run like that.
I said, I'm just letting y'all
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know now.
I'm going to find somebody's
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gun.
We're going to sit crisscross
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applesauce in the middle of the
living room and I'm just going
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to get it over with for all of
us because ain't no way.
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They were like, Yep, 'cause
ain't no way.
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Take Me Out.
Take Me Out right 'cause I can't
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even look, I can't even run that
fast.
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So then I'm done.
Hello, I have arthritis in both
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knees.
There will be absolutely no
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escaping for me.
What they say let my kids know I
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love them.
I'm gone.
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The kids will be like, can you
please take us out first so we
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get to deal with this.
Oh, Oh no, I can't 'cause that
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makes me think of that movie,
The myths every time.
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I can't.
Sorry for this.
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You took everybody else out
before you and then you get out
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to take yourself out and the
world is good.
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That's horrible.
Oh wow, what?
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That's crazy that you took
everybody else out.
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Well, the same type of
situation, like if we go outside
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this car, we're gonna die.
That's how bad it was in the
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myth, OK?
I've never seen the movie.
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He killed everyone in the car,
including his son, and he went
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out there, He had no more
bullets.
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He went out there to be taken by
the creatures.
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But as he thought the creature
was coming, it was people
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clearing the way, like burning
the mist away.
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Oh, that's.
Horrible.
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That's fucked up.
That's why you like, well, the
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kids like taking her.
I don't know.
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I think I just take myself first
'cause maybe the kids will be
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able to survive.
Oh my.
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God, that's.
Really fucked up.
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Yeah, sorry everyone.
It's a it's a bad ending.
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That's the end you never saw.
The mist.
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I just, I just told you the.
End And And The funny thing
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about the Mist is Melissa
McBride was in that movie, was
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she?
Yeah.
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Yeah.
That was that was that was the
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movie.
Because she was a casting
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director and she only did like a
few acting jobs, and she did the
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miss.
And that was how she ended up
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getting on The Walking Dead,
because of what she didn't miss.
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Yeah.
'Cause she had.
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To deal with that stuff.
Oh wow.
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But anyway, so Carol still.
And Laura, Laura, Lori Holt was
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in there, too.
Oh, was she OK?
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I that that's one of those
movies that is continuously on
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my to be watch list.
So I watch it at some point,
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probably sometime this year,
yeah.
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Melissa McBride is the woman
with kids who didn't make it.
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You know what?
You know what she didn't.
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We're not even going to go
there.
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So however she made it here, she
did be able to jump up in.
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She let she free could drum and
she starts.
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To flake bullets too 'cause I
mean, people were shooting right
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at her, but not a goalie.
Is, let me tell you, they.
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Didn't have good A, they didn't
have good aim.
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To shoot him clearly he behind
her.
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Neither one of them got shot
however that's OK because that's
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what I was thinking in my mind
like oh she bout to get shot in
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the shoulder a little bit, glaze
her face.
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She don't get shot in the leg.
Let me tell you what it is.
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She got shot with one of the
with the serum arrow and before
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she got it out it just it
protected her.
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It coated her with some kind of
invisibility shit.
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OK.
All right.
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If we want to go there with
that, do her.
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They're just saying, OK, I mean,
but we've already talked about
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how the guards and stuff at the
Nest are not really trained.
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They're not really prepared.
So they're probably just just
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shooting blindly.
And of course, they don't have
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time to focus because you're
you're trying to keep the
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onslaught of walkers from coming
in.
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Because Can you imagine the
people who are at the front of
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the gate, they see these walkers
coming and they're dead before
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they can even comprehend what's
going on.
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The ones who were there, first
of all, you see this person
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that's coming after you in a
Jeep or just barreling through
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with the Jeep.
Now, granted, she wasn't trying
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to hit anybody and she wasn't
really trying to kill any of
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them people because she doesn't
know yet that Daryl is being
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held prisoner, right?
She thinks that he's a part of
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the nest because that was his
intention.
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That's what was going on that
Madam Janae would have known.
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She wouldn't have known that
Losang was keeping him prisoner,
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so she had no reason to be
killing folks.
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Now, however, you start shooting
at her, trying to keep her from
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coming in.
She's got to defend herself
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because she doesn't have time to
sit there and explain to them.
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I'm not with these people.
I'm coming for my friend.
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You shouldn't.
You are an obstacle.
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I'm just going to kill you and
get you out my way.
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I will say my apologies later.
That's basically what Carol is
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right now.
Now, in the midst of all this
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going on outside, on the inside,
Lo Sang is questioning Isabelle
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again, trying to find out where
Laurent is and trying to talk
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about, talk to her.
Her about the fact that her
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faith is weak and her resolve
has weak.
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And she has let this Darrell
Dixon get in her head and turn
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her from the cause.
And he is increasingly sounding
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like a madman.
Like Los Angeles gone, Common
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sense is gone from him.
Now he is so focused on finding
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Laurent and doing this little
ceremony, experiment, whatever,
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because he really believes that
if the Walker bites Laurent,
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Laurent will not be infected.
And that is what's going to lead
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the new faction into the world.
That's that's what's going to
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heal.
And he's thinking all this
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stuff.
And he was like, yeah, we have
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to have the provement.
She was like, if you need proof,
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you really don't have the faith,
right?
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Somebody comes in, tells Low
saying that they're being
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attacked and I guess he was
getting ready to take her back
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to the dungeon where Daryl was
or the out they were in a shower
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or something.
The showers.
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She takes the little grate from
her shower as she slashes him
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across the face.
OK, I was like, OK, she's
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distracting him a little bit.
I will be honest and say I was
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not expecting him to pick up
that knife and stab her.
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I thought he.
Was just I.
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Thought he was just going to
like threaten her, scare her or
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just basically be like, look, I
have this, I can hurt you.
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This motherfucker actually
stabbed her.
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I was like.
Then I was concerned for her
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because I thought, OK, she's
about to die on this ground.
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I did not want her to turn into.
And I'm thinking, you know what?
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No, she's not going to die.
They're going to patch her up.
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She's just going to slow her
down some, but she'll be patched
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up.
I figured she would die, but I
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didn't.
I didn't want her to die and
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then become a Walker.
I wanted her to have for her
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character and for what she has
been through and, you know, her
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trying to protect Laurent and
all this other stuff.
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I really wanted her to have a
dignified death, you know, as
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much as she could within the
circumstances.
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I didn't want her to become a
Walker.
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I didn't want them to have to,
you know, see her like that and
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put her down.
I I just didn't want any of
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that.
So when she got up and she was
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making her way outside, I was
like, oh, maybe somebody will
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find her and patch her up and
someone does find her out of all
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people.
Carol finds her.
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And I was like, OK, Carol didn't
try to kill her.
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She tried to now.
I look so concerned for like,
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oh.
She did, you know, I was
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thinking about that because I
was thinking about what we've
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said about Carol in the last
couple of episodes.
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And I don't know, I think maybe
with Carol, she's so used to
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holding people at arm's length
and maybe something about what
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they went through at the
Commonwealth, trying to get into
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the Commonwealth and just some
other things as far as, you
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know, maybe her, her view about
community has changed.
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And granted, I think she's let
her guard down a little bit too
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much because I think the old
Carol would have sussed out that
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Janae was playing her.
I think the old Carol, you know,
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she would have had more
intuition in regards to Madam
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Janae, especially after you see
her doing this, you know, her
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people doing the experiments.
This is not a good person, and
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that should.
Have been the red flag for
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Carol, but and I think this, I
don't think I, I not, I will
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push back a little bit on that.
I don't I don't think so.
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I think Daryl definitely lost
his edge.
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I don't think Carol did.
The only reason why is because
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Carol been consistent to this
point.
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Even when they were on Greenland
and she was sitting next to that
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woman, she was on 100.
She was ready because she knew
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it went right when that woman
started talking about the land
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is, you know, paying us back or
whatnot.
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But I think with the Madam, what
it is, but she still wasn't like
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she did.
Yeah, but I don't she wasn't
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fit.
She knew she could take her.
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Like I knew she could take her
even when she had the crossbow.
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Like, I get that that doesn't
that doesn't do anything.
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But I think with Madam Janae,
she knew she was bad.
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She did like she knew.
Didn't eat the damn food off the
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ground like he already knew.
You know there's some shit I
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would do so I'm going to expect
the same shit that I would do.
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She would do.
But she also thought OK we 2
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leader bitches here.
However, the other one she
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thought, OK, Madam, she know I I
need to pay back.
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I need to kill Daryl and I'm
legit like she is.
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She thinks we're on the same
page.
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But clearly I thought she was on
the same page with Madam Janae
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too.
But she's not really.
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Madam Janae.
Don't give up, AL.
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And also, you're not going to
keep up Alpha.
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You're not going to keep a
leader with you.
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You talk.
About and I I get that and I.
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Don't miss that part, that
that's the one thing Carol miss.
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I think she's still be
consistent.
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She not on vacation like Darrell
is, is just she just missed the
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part that you cannot be in the
same room with this woman
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because she would think you will
take her over just like you
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think she will take you over.
And that's, that's the thing.
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That's why.
I feel like you going to do it
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as a Walker.
Yeah, that's why, that's why I
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said I feel like she probably
had her guard down just a little
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bit when it came to Madam Janae.
Because I, I think old Carol or
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older Carol or previous Carol,
however you want to phrase it, I
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think she would have been a
little bit more weary of Madam
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Janae.
She probably still would have
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used the circumstances to get
her closer to Daryl, but she
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would not have been the old,
excuse me, the old Carol would
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not have been surprised when
Madam Janae threw her into that
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crowd.
That's that's just what I'm
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saying.
But.
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However, she was still ready to
react, so she was already, she's
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already always on 20 when Darryl
come on vacation and he went
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from 20 to two.
I mean like, come on dude, you
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but but I I won't.
Say that he.
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In love in Paris he in love.
In Paris.
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Paris in love.
But but again, I won't say
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that's something that's out of
character for Daryl either if
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you really think about it,
because one of the reasons why
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Aaron wanted him to go out with
them to recruit people to come
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live in Alexandria was because
of Daryl's way with people.
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Because Daryl is a good judge of
character.
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Now, granted, got a little bit
loose here, but also the the one
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thing like his, his mistake
started at the very beginning
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when he came across the young
woman and the old man.
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And again, we have to remember
he had been out to sea.
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We don't know how many days he
was floating.
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We don't know how long he had
been there.
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He had not eaten.
He was disoriented.
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So of course he wasn't going to
be at 100%.
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So we understand that.
Everything else, like the thing
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with Low saying, like, I think
Daryl kind of sniffed that Low
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saying might not be on the up
and up, but at the time, Low
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saying wasn't dangerous.
And it wasn't that he was being
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evil.
He just had this vision that
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was, you know, he was being
blinded by his faith to believe
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in something.
And I just don't think Daryl
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understood how far he was
willing to take it.
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And if you think about it, Daryl
as a character, we've never seen
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him show any type of religious
inclination before in the show.
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He probably didn't partake in
church and stuff when he was
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younger when the world was OK.
Given what we know about his
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living circumstances, he may not
be familiar with the way people
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act.
As far as a cult, you, you can
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look at some other situations
that they've seen since the
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world has ended, but again,
those are influenced by the way
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the world ended.
So people going to act a little
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funny, low saying for the most
part was on the up and up.
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I'm trying to save humanity,
which we're trying to do this,
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we're trying to do that.
It wasn't a tool.
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You started sending people to
try to kill him on the sly.
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That Darrell was like, wait,
what the fuck am I missing?
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You didn't miss anything.
It's just that Lozang changed
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because 1.
He had her sensor whispering in
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his ear.
I'm so overhauled.
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And then two, once things
started kind of escalating low
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saying does what a person does,
he starts panicking.
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He starts making decisions off
the fly that maybe aren't the
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right decisions.
I don't think he actually meant
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to stab Isabel.
I think he was just shocked at
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the fact that she attacked him
first.
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No, he did.
Did you see his face 'cause it
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was like a switch if you go back
and look at that scene.
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It looked it was like a a switch
went off and he was like his
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face was straight at first and
then he like, you know, do
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little and then.
Yeah, Once he realized what he
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had done, he was just like, oh,
well, yeah, I don't think, I
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don't think that was his intent.
Like I said, when she, when
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she's, when she attacked him, I
think at that point that's where
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the switch flipped because he
was like, did she really just
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attack me?
Yeah, and cut my beautiful face
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and.
Cut my face.
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So he stabs her, she goes out,
she's she's able to make it out,
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which again is so interesting to
me.
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Well, I guess because everybody
was outside, nobody stops her.
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And they probably looked, if
they did see it, they probably
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because at that point, the
balls.
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Are gonna be dead.
But at that point, nobody
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thinking about her.
If you look, when she got up,
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the amount of blood that was on
the floor, I just thought she
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was there.
Too.
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But Carol finds her, gets her
somewhere kind of sort of safe
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because one of those walkers is
coming after her and she's just
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looking.
I think at that point Izzy was
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like, OK, whatever, like what is
she going to do?
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Carol saves her and then that's
when she figures out where
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Darrell is on the in the
meantime, you've got one guard
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on the inside with Darrell.
You've got all of these walkers
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coming towards him and he's
looking like how the fuck am I
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finna do this?
And there was just like, get
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these chains off me.
Doesn't have to say a word, just
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get them off.
He goes in One Direction with
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his with his little thing.
He's his morning star, he's
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killing with he's killing
walkers.
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And then you got somebody at the
end of the hallway that's
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shooting the walkers and then
all of a sudden it's just the
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two of them and he runs to her
that run.
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Let me tell you, that facial
expression he makes when he
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finds Carol after a long
absence, after when they think
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that the other one is dead or
when they've been upset, That
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little face that he makes before
he burst into tears, that gets
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me every time.
Because I'm like that.
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That was Daryl at peak
vulnerability.
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He's looking at her like, Oh my,
came over here to find me.
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He looked like he Do you know
how you.
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Got.
Yeah, right.
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Oh, I'm about to say something
bad.
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What?
What?
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What you tried to say, say it.
Say it you.
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You can't say that you're going
to say something bad and then I
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can't.
Don't say it.
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Well, I say it, I didn't have, I
didn't have the fields.
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What?
OK, I'm, I'm going to be honest.
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And if I have to rate it, it's
like no.
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Actually, you love Wait Wait.
Wait, I was happy that they were
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but like I I cry a lot.
I didn't even.
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It didn't even reach.
Same that was the I was the same
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way but I think for me it.
Was because I have cried but
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every time that scene went and I
think that was it.
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I was just more happy they got
together because every time I
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see that scene when he come back
from Hilltop after he had to
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listen to easy stream, easiest
pizza pie, whatever, when he
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came through those gates and he
saw them.
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I can tear up now.
He made that face but I still
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cry every time I see that scene.
But listen I was like oh it's
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happy.
I'm happy for them.
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OK so what's the same
conversations now I'm like OK
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let's move on.
You have to stop crying and
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hugging.
Let's go.
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And I think for me, it was
probably influenced by the fact
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that, again, I was expecting it
to happen by this point.
402
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And then you also, I think the
emotions of the reunion were
403
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somewhat dampened by the fact
that you knew Isabel was about
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to die, if she hadn't already
died like I.
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Really don't care about Isabel.
And then she was gonna die, so
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that didn't even dampen that.
The thing is is even with.
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Paying for that.
Right when they got together and
408
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I knew they were going to get
together and I cried when they
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got together.
When who?
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Because.
We have been waiting for that
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for a long.
Time Michonne I still cried we
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knew they were about to get
together, but.
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But we didn't, we weren't
expecting it when we when we got
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it.
So that, I think added to the
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emotion I.
Cried to all of the scenes
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afterwards, still when they were
together.
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But here I just, I, I just, I
just didn't.
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I didn't expect it.
It had too much some other stuff
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happening.
Maybe if yeah, Isabel wasn't
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dying, I really didn't care that
she died because I knew that was
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going to have to happen for this
story to move forward.
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But and I just had no feelings,
to be honest with you.
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I said this before, I really
don't have no feelings for her.
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Maybe I'm just cold inside.
I don't know.
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However, I just it just wasn't
it just wasn't hitting.
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Now, the stuff they talked about
later, that hit me more.
427
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Yeah, Like, it hit me more
because she basically was like
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you.
You moved on from just coming
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over here.
Like, what about the rest of us?
430
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Right in so many words.
Yeah, the hard conversations.
431
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Of those kind of hard jokes and
him like not wanting to leave.
432
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So what about the kids that you
were pretty much raising where
433
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we don't even know where they
parents are.
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But you willing to come over
here?
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Not that you willing, but you,
you know, got kidnapped and now
436
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you all invested in what's
happening.
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Yeah, happening here.
So I think that's what I felt
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more emotional and then them
actually saying I mean, I love
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when he does it.
He does do that face like he I
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felt like they felt the emotion
but I didn't it didn't pull my
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heartstrings.
Sorry.
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Yeah, I, I'm kind of there as
well.
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It didn't, I wasn't I, I wasn't
as emotional as I thought I was
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going to be when I finally saw
them reconnecting.
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But also, like I said, it's very
much, it was almost an exact
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replay of when they were
reunited after Terminus in the
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Woods.
So yeah, so that that was, yeah,
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that's a top.
That's a top three for me,
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right.
So it just, it felt like there
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was something that was supposed
to happen, like if they if they
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were that close to each other
and then somehow missed each
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other and then later reunited, I
may have had more emotion.
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But at this point, Daryl is
locked up.
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All the bad guys who were
keeping him there otherwise
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occupied.
There was literally, I mean, and
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Carol found out where he was
because Isabel told him.
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At this point, there's
absolutely no reason whatsoever
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for them to not reunite.
So it was very much when I saw
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them, when I saw them look at
each other, I think I teared up
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a little bit because of Carol's
reaction and just kind of the
461
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noise she made, like, Oh my God.
I actually found him and Daryl
462
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looking at her like, is this, is
this real?
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Because I think that's the thing
that got me.
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He wasn't sure if it was real.
Then once he realized she was
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there and ran to her for the
hood.
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I'm expecting the waterworks.
And there was nothing.
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And I was like, does this mean
that I don't care?
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And I was like, no, that's not
the case.
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I care.
About them as characters.
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And I care about the reunion.
But again.
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Didn't hit me.
We already knew that when Carol
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set her mind to coming to
France, she was going to find a
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barrel.
We already knew it from from the
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1st episode where she actually
made it to France and she
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immediately found her way to
Madam Janae's place.
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I was like, OK, they got to give
us this reunion now.
477
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You can't, you can't have us go
through the whole season and
478
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then keep it towards the end
that that's not going to work
479
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now.
So that was expected.
480
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And then like I said, for me,
knowing that Daryl was going to
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have to go outside and deal with
Isabel after everything that
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they had just been through,
after her confession.
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And then again, you know, Daryl,
Daryl is a good one for hoarding
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guilt.
He is a good one for having
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survivor's guilt.
And he probably at some point
486
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will think about the things that
Lo Sang said about him fooling
487
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Isabel away from the faith, away
from the belief.
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And at some point, he's probably
going to think that it is his
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fault that she is dead because
she didn't just go along with
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what Lo Sang said.
Now, later on, he'll probably
491
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think about it, be like, no, she
wouldn't have done that.
492
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You know, it's not my fault.
But right now I know that that's
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what he's about to be hit with
when he goes and finds Isabel.
494
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And sure enough, they go outside
and he's like, hey, we got to
495
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go.
Izzy is done.
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Like, you can tell that she,
there is no strength left in
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her, no life left in her.
And she starts, you know, find
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Laurent, take care of him.
Tell him, you know, tell him
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that I love him and all this
stuff.
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And then she dies.
I think I was a little bit more
501
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emotional about that part
because I was like, now Laurent
502
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really doesn't have anybody
except for Daryl.
503
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Well, no, let me stop.
He still has flu, as far as we
504
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know, but he's lost everybody
that has known him since birth.
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I think that got to me a little
bit more because I'm like, now
506
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he's really going to have to
grow up fast, you know, we keep
507
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talking about.
The way Ben has to change and
508
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,520
the way that he huh.
But he'd been having to have to
509
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grow up fast.
Yeah.
510
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Yeah.
They didn't want.
511
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They didn't want him to grow up
the way he'd need to really grow
512
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up to survive this.
Because they were trying to
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protect him for whatever.
This is low, low saying hadn't
514
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and and you know, in mind.
So yeah, so Izzy is dead.
515
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So we've lost Sylvie, we've lost
Izzy, we've lost the meal, we've
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lost all the, you know, really
kind of likable characters from
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the France stuff.
So now we did.
518
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,840
We got to deal with Lo Sang and
her sensor and Madam.
519
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:02,080
I'm going to reference back to a
spin off or continuation Dead
520
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,760
City, because ultimately Daryl
Dixon did the same thing.
521
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,800
We got characters from the
beginning and they're dead.
522
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,360
However, there's a difference
because Daryl Dixon has lasted
523
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,160
longer, right?
And you gave us a little bit
524
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,400
more into the into the care They
didn't have like a couple of
525
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,120
lines like we're getting to
experience them and feel bad.
526
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,840
Isabel not so much, but feel bad
when they I'm just joking,
527
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,480
everyone.
No, she's not.
528
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,360
No, she's not.
I'm trying to muster, I'm trying
529
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,880
to muster some feelings for her
habit.
530
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,440
I'm sorry, I really don't.
Mean, like you said, we just.
531
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Don't understand.
And I understand if people did
532
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,680
because that's so much better
than what they did with Dead
533
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,000
City, where people just pop in
and then they're dead.
534
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,640
But you want to make us feel
something.
535
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,920
But you didn't give us an
opportunity to experience them.
536
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,000
At least we have experienced
them.
537
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,880
And now it's, you know, Daryl
and Carol because again, when
538
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,760
they experience people, they
die.
539
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:13,800
This is true, but I was like, at
this point, Madam Janae, her
540
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,040
life is numbered.
And I don't mean days, I don't
541
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,440
mean weeks at this point.
Now Darrell is about to go find
542
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,200
her because even as they're
leaving Montes and Michelle in
543
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,760
flames, telling him she was
like, I have a way for us to get
544
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,000
back home.
A pilot that's going to take us
545
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,800
back to Paris.
Daryl is not paying any
546
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,240
attention.
Oh, all these people will be
547
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,680
happy to have you back.
Are you listening to me?
548
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,760
And Daryl was like, look, I'm
about to go kill somebody.
549
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,200
And that's when he's like, she's
asking him all these questions.
550
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,840
She was I I, I take it you knew
her pretty well.
551
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,880
She was talking about taking
care of somebody.
552
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,120
Who's she talking about, Daryl?
Like, look, we got to go this
553
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,480
way because we got to go.
We got to go fight.
554
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,320
So he's already pissed off.
Now, if he had just stayed where
555
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,680
he was, he probably could have
taken care of Madam Janae and
556
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Losang together.
Because Madam Janae does come
557
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,720
in, talk to Losang.
And I was like, you got two
558
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:25,800
birds right there.
You got Carol and Daryl, just go
559
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,440
ahead and take care of them.
But I understand Darrell was
560
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,680
looking for Laurent first.
He was like, I got to go find
561
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,120
him because as far as he knows,
Laurent is in the woods
562
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,640
somewhere.
But of course, when they get to
563
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,000
the woods, Laurent and Falou are
not there.
564
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,080
They're gone.
He does know that Laurent has
565
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,960
been to The Cave because he has
the Rubik's Cube.
566
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,600
Laurent left it back, you know,
left it there for him.
567
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,400
So now they've got to go and try
to find Laurent and and Falou
568
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,840
because at this point, now, you
know, there was not going to be
569
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,720
like, OK, I'm just going to go
home now.
570
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,800
Carol has a friend with a plane.
We're just going to go home.
571
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,440
No, he's not.
He's got to let Laurent know one
572
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,440
that Izzy is gone.
And now he feels personally
573
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,280
responsible to make sure that
Laurent is safe.
574
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,360
Especially now that you have
Janae and Lesane looking for
575
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,480
him.
And I wouldn't want him to.
576
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,920
I wouldn't want him to just
leave.
577
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,719
That is not Daryl.
So for me it's.
578
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,520
The right thing to.
Do yeah, I'm going to say it's
579
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,199
the right thing to do.
And Carol, you should even know.
580
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:35,120
Like if he's been helping and
he's been here and he's involved
581
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,639
and this woman is dying in his
arms saying please take care of
582
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Laurent.
Like that's Daryl characters to
583
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,159
take care like of them and.
He's not going to go nowhere
584
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:47,080
until he make sure he do what
he's supposed to be doing.
585
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway, this is the start of
586
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,920
the Darrell and Carol field
trip, where they go in search of
587
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:03,240
Laurent and of course they find
an old couple who has been
588
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:07,000
living on a farmhouse just
peacefully together.
589
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,480
Before we even get there, before
we even get there, I want to say
590
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,600
this.
Let me get close.
591
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,080
So you.
Can hear me the.
592
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Payoff for the came back with
some bullshit on their little
593
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,160
walk when they was going on
their way there.
594
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,400
OK, but.
So I said what?
595
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,960
OK, so about that and what if
for those of y'all listening, if
596
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,880
you didn't understand what Casey
was talking about while Darryl
597
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,600
and Carol are walking, they're
having conversations about
598
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,640
different things he's asking her
about you know, so you just you
599
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,800
just up and left came to look
for me and you know they're
600
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,760
talking about those things.
He asked her.
601
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,360
He says what were you talking
about on the radio?
602
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,520
You said something about
somebody came back and she said
603
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,360
oh, I was just talking about
this feeling that I had this.
604
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,080
I look at TV screen like what
the fuck I.
605
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,720
Said bitch, girl.
I wasn't like to pay off.
606
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,600
I want it.
I thought you were gonna say
607
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:16,680
Morgan like a person came.
Back OK, so I'm feeling she very
608
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,480
well could have still meant to
say that somebody returned but
609
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,160
because of what Darryl is trying
to do she just played it off
610
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,560
because if Darryl is really
focused on finding who Laurent
611
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,400
is, who she has he hasn't even
really told her at this point
612
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,480
who Laurent is.
So if she's like, OK, if he's
613
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,960
really determined to find this
person and save this person and
614
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,640
do whatever, finish this out,
maybe I don't need to distract
615
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:51,200
him right now.
Because that explanation, oh,
616
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,360
you know, I was just, whatever I
was feeling, it was, it was just
617
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,640
there, you know, I started
having funny feelings again,
618
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:04,120
like something that no.
That was the worst explanation
619
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,880
ever that yeah, it just hated
it.
620
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,440
It doesn't make sense.
I think she's hiding something.
621
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,280
I mean, you got to admit it's
not, you know, that's a Carol
622
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,800
thing to do.
I don't think she hided nothing.
623
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,600
Though I think so either.
Because that's her best friend.
624
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,200
She going to tell him, you know,
no matter what.
625
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,360
Remember, she used to go on in
the middle of the woods and tell
626
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,840
him everything was going on when
he reclused himself, you know?
627
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,240
So she was still going out there
checking on him and telling him
628
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:41,680
the updates of everything.
Yeah, but I don't think.
629
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,080
I don't think.
I don't.
630
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,320
I don't think it's Ricky
Michonne that she's talking
631
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,000
about.
I don't know if I want to say
632
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,480
it's Ricky Michonne, because
again, one that would be too
633
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,160
important.
Yeah.
634
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,280
If she had the helicopters, the
CRM helicopters at her disposal
635
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,240
then she probably would have
gone home to get those or she
636
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:10,960
would have at least radioed and
said hey I just found out Daryl
637
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,560
was put on a boat to France.
I need y'all to come help me
638
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,560
something.
But again, we've we've mentioned
639
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,080
this before.
As much as Rick probably said,
640
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,600
I'm not going anywhere else once
I get home.
641
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,320
This is Daryl, this is his
brother.
642
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:33,400
Ain't no way in hell he would
have just sat there and let
643
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,400
Carol go find Daryl by herself
across seas, especially if he
644
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,760
knew what was going on.
There's just, there's no way.
645
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,400
And, and furthermore, Judith
ain't gonna let that happen.
646
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,520
Right.
So, I mean, Judith was the one
647
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,080
who told her Mama, go find my
daddy.
648
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,000
Go bring him home.
Yeah, it took two years, but you
649
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,560
did what I told you to do.
Not yet took you 2.
650
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,520
Years, but OK, so we'll, we'll
just let that sit for a minute.
651
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,480
I'm just like I said, I'm just
gonna say I don't think she was
652
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,360
being truthful with him when she
said it was just a feeling she
653
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,000
had.
I I think there's something else
654
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,360
going on and we'll just have to
see, you know, how Carol does
655
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,160
hold on to secrets even and yes,
sometimes she holds them from
656
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,320
Darrell too.
So we'll just have to see.
657
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:35,320
But I want to talk about this
old couple because again, we
658
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,000
know that when our people show
up.
659
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Somebody gonna die.
Somebody gonna die even though
660
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,480
you have the best intentions,
right?
661
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,800
But again, just like we said
with the the other circumstance,
662
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,120
these folks will, I won't say
both of them.
663
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,920
The lady didn't have it coming,
the husband or the the the
664
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,040
boyfriend.
He definitely did.
665
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,240
Yeah.
I mean, it's it's nice that
666
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:08,680
y'all took them in and gave, you
know, gave them a car and, you
667
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,120
know, fed them and all this
other stuff.
668
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:16,160
But this couple, it was it was
one of those things where I was
669
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,960
like, OK, so what's the whole
purpose of introducing us to
670
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,840
this couple?
Then we find out, OK, so this
671
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:28,160
couple housed Laurent and Falou,
gave them access to a vehicle or
672
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,800
help them find a vehicle so that
they can go to Paris.
673
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:37,880
OK, So while they're there, oh,
yes, Laurent mentioned us to
674
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,640
you.
They start calling Carol sister
675
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,880
Isabel because they think she's
Isabel.
676
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:50,040
And then the wife keeps making
all of these references to
677
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Isabel and Daryl and oh, Laurent
said that you loved her and
678
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,160
blah, blah, blah, and she's
giving Carol advice and all this
679
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,720
other stuff.
I said, OK, So what the show is
680
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,520
trying to do now is they're
trying to show us that there
681
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,400
might be more to Carol and
Daryl.
682
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,640
I need y'all to stop 'cause you
they.
683
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Definitely thought she was
Isabel.
684
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,240
Like that's what I'm saying.
That's immediately what I
685
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:20,360
thought.
And and I and I get that, but
686
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:26,760
once they are there, everything
that she is telling Carol is
687
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,000
based on observations.
She's looking at their body
688
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,400
language, she's looking at how
they're acting around each other
689
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,520
and she is making her own
assumptions about the way they
690
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,160
feel for each other.
And I was like, OK, here the
691
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,040
show goes again trying to tell
us, but you didn't get the
692
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,080
Isabel and Daryl so too.
So I ain't listening to you.
693
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,920
OK, Isabel and Isabel and
Darrell was forced like but.
694
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,680
That's, but that's what I'm
saying.
695
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,920
I feel like they're trying to do
that same thing with Carol and
696
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,920
Darrell.
They're putting out all of these
697
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,960
little feelers like, Oh yeah,
there's something there.
698
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,880
They do have feelings for each
other, blah blah blah blah blah.
699
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Maybe I was looking wrong are.
You looking at the wrong show
700
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,920
because they are.
I did I did I that's why I text
701
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,800
you guys because I was like wait
a second I'm confused.
702
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,240
I had to rewatch the scene a few
times because I'm like y'all are
703
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:28,200
trying to hint at something we
just spoke about and it's not
704
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,120
there.
I have not seen that one time
705
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,720
they were star crossed lovers
and they miss each other in the
706
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:37,080
night.
But the old lady is reading them
707
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,400
like that.
Because she's reading the other
708
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,280
type of love.
Everyone better be OK.
709
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,520
I didn't see it.
I didn't feel it.
710
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,120
I didn't.
I have.
711
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,600
Never in all of these years, I'm
going to keep throwing my hands
712
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:55,040
up in all of these years have I
seen until right now, we're not
713
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,520
right.
For the original show, I never.
714
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,880
When people were trying to ship
them, I still I didn't.
715
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,880
Wasn't there?
Right.
716
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,320
Like stop trying to force like
him and Connie that was there
717
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,480
no, no questions rotation there.
I can see them and absolutely
718
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:14,400
all right.
But anybody else?
719
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,440
I have not seen that.
No, now I've seen Carol with
720
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,840
other people in my head, but not
Daryl.
721
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,280
Yeah.
And, and like I said, I don't
722
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,040
see, I don't see those two
together romantically either.
723
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:37,240
And even like, so it's
interesting with Darrell and
724
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:40,760
Carol because obviously they're
best friends.
725
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,280
They've obviously been through a
lot of stuff together.
726
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,200
They've had their backs with
each other, but also at the same
727
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:53,080
time, they butt heads so much.
And I was like, I'm sorry, even
728
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,240
if this was a romantic pairing,
I don't see y'all arguing all
729
00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:59,640
the time.
Even if you've been gone for how
730
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,760
long?
This woman came all the way
731
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,960
overseas to find you and you're
still arguing, quote UN quote
732
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,720
like an old married couple.
I get that, but I'm like, can
733
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:15,240
y'all just not have a moment of
peace within y'all and be like,
734
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:18,240
oh, I'm so glad that we that we
found each other again.
735
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,240
Can, can we just have that?
Y'all got to be sniping at each
736
00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:27,360
other and, and, and just making
it's tiring.
737
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,920
And that's one of the reasons
why I don't ship them and it
738
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,680
could be OK.
Again, we don't see the pairing
739
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,680
if other people see it.
I'm not going to discount that.
740
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,880
There are obviously people who
see it.
741
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Just like there are people who
don't see Ricky Michonne, there
742
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:52,240
are people who don't see Connie
and Darryl.
743
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:56,840
There are people who actually do
see Maggie and Negan.
744
00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:00,200
OK, Everybody looks at things a
little bit differently.
745
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,560
And I know that has to do with
also what we are attracted to,
746
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,720
what appeals to us.
So everybody's going to have
747
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:12,080
their, their, you know, their
versions of what it is.
748
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,920
OK, fine.
But I don't want to look at
749
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,040
Darryl and Carol arguing all the
time.
750
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,880
And if you think back to a lot
of their scenes together, a lot
751
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,720
of their experiences together,
they argue just about as much as
752
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:31,000
they are not arguing.
And it's tiring.
753
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,640
It's exhausting.
Like, right now, y'all should
754
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,160
not be arguing about anything.
Y'all should be trying to find a
755
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,880
way to get this car going.
Go find the run so y'all can go
756
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,320
the fuck home.
You should be happy that your
757
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,440
motherfucking best friend found
a way.
758
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,440
From America.
From America.
759
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,080
Who France?
Who France.
760
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,840
So find your ass.
You should be never gave up.
761
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,680
Never.
And you still like you're you're
762
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,200
being so focused.
And again, I understand you just
763
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,360
you just went through something
traumatic.
764
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,600
You have somebody that you're
that you feel responsible for
765
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,920
that you need to go find.
And then you have all these
766
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,520
people who keep saying stuff.
I mean, even with even with
767
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,800
Darrell and Carol, like they're
having conversations.
768
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,200
She was like you loved her, you
cared about her, she's important
769
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,760
to you, but blah blah blah.
You didn't think to come home
770
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,960
and like what you.
Do.
771
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:35,440
You even have, do you even have
the whole story yet?
772
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,560
Why you sitting here like you
just you just decided to stay in
773
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,360
France.
What else was he going to do?
774
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,800
Because guess what?
Janae was controlling all of the
775
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,960
boats in Paris, and I was.
Just going to say he didn't have
776
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,120
no plane.
Didn't know.
777
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,320
Didn't nobody have a plane?
And at this point he's just
778
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,200
really trying to stay alive
because you got this man who is
779
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,760
trying to hunt him for reasons
he don't know.
780
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:05,240
So it was just as much as I like
seeing them together again, and
781
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:10,720
I like their dynamic when
they're getting along, the
782
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:15,080
little pettiness between them
right now, it's irritating me.
783
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Y'all ain't got time for this.
Y'all got shit to do and then
784
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,880
you need to go fuck.
A man later be mad later.
785
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,880
Right be mad later, be mad when
you get back to the
786
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,720
Commonwealth.
Be mad because if y'all are
787
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,680
acting like this and you and
then you still got to deal with
788
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,560
the fact that what the fuck you
finna tell ash when you walk up
789
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,800
with with this grown ass man and
not your not your grown
790
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,280
daughter.
Like there's too many other
791
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,760
things that you need to worry
about.
792
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,840
Not to mention the fact that you
got people who are looking for
793
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:51,840
you because Darryl escaped and
Madam Shanay knows that Carol
794
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,760
escaped.
Y'all got way of y'all.
795
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,920
Y'all got other things to be
worried about then to be
796
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:00,440
frightened.
A.
797
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,960
Whole lot of other things.
So that was kind of irritating
798
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,560
me.
And then, like I said, with,
799
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,400
with the old woman and the old
man making like the different
800
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,840
little remarks to them about
their relationship and about
801
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,480
this and about that.
I was just like, OK, you know
802
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,680
what?
I'm done tired.
803
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,920
I I'm done.
Because this is I watch Carol
804
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:33,880
and Daryl for the camaraderie,
for the fact that they both
805
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,480
accept each other for whatever
they are going through at the
806
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,280
time.
They help each other through
807
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,320
their trauma.
They don't force the other
808
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,440
person to do anything except
for, I have to say it earlier in
809
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,960
the years when Carol was going
through her stuff and she was
810
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,440
like, oh, I don't want to kill
anymore.
811
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,480
I don't want to do this anymore.
I don't want to do that anymore.
812
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,440
Because I'm going to admit
during those times in The
813
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,280
Walking Dead, those are the
times.
814
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,840
I was on another podcast at the
time and we talked about The
815
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,880
Walking Dead.
I and I can remember clearly,
816
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,840
OK, it's time for it's time for
Carol to be gone from this story
817
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,680
because it's too much now as as
the years go by and I I look at
818
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,960
her character a bit more again,
I realize she's dealing with a
819
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,440
whole bunch of repressed trauma.
There are things that she
820
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,480
probably has never properly
dealt with.
821
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,760
We see it again with the whole
with the whole quote UN quote
822
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,280
barn door in this episode when
she's going in with the old lady
823
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,960
to get stuff and she's looking
at the barn and she finally
824
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,920
admits to the old lady that she
lost the daughter.
825
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,200
Now that should have clicked
with the old lady, Like, oh,
826
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,320
wait, you're you're a nun and
you had a daughter that should
827
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,840
have clicked with her life.
Oh, you might not be Isabel, but
828
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,520
maybe the old lady was just
like, OK, look, they haven't
829
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,240
done anything bad to us.
Yeah, I was gonna say at that
830
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:56,360
point, they don't even.
Gonna.
831
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,160
Right, and then you'll help
them.
832
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,920
Still, you can still have to
have a kid.
833
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,120
Lost it and then became a nun.
No.
834
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,720
But you know, for for the most
part, we don't think about that.
835
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,880
You know, but true.
But I'm going to go back to
836
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,080
something again that is bad to
say.
837
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,080
Here we go.
I'm this hurt her having issues
838
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,360
with the barn.
That's bothering me too, because
839
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:29,000
I guess I would be OK if we saw
it somewhat over the years.
840
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,400
But I think that's the whole, I
think that's the whole point.
841
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,480
I have all of this I, I, I get
it.
842
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,040
I totally do, Like I totally do.
I, I, I got the mental health
843
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:46,640
thing, but I just feel like the
way it's written, it's more of a
844
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,640
like they.
They're pulling on our heart
845
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,880
strings.
They and then they're trying to
846
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,960
set something up or whatnot.
I don't know exactly what
847
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,360
they're trying to do, but could
have did this a tad bit
848
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,400
differently.
I thought of it more so like
849
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,360
number one, like how do I say
it?
850
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,240
It it more is repressed.
The fact that she now is using
851
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:20,320
Sophia as this cover of This is
why I'm going to Paris.
852
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,000
Like it's now bringing it to the
forefront where things are like,
853
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,520
OK, well shit, you know what I'm
saying?
854
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,960
Although when she met Ash and he
put her in a barn, that's why
855
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,960
she kind of had the first one.
That was before the story even
856
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,760
came about.
But now even more so now because
857
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,720
I've used my little girl and the
hopes and dreams of what I wish
858
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:45,960
for her is now prominent.
Has she survived that?
859
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,560
That would give you a little bit
of trauma, right?
860
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,320
It it.
Would have and I, I'm like, I
861
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,160
totally get it because that
happens.
862
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,760
I guess just the way they wrote
it.
863
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,560
I really just, I don't know,
like, again, we talked about it.
864
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:02,720
I don't think it should have
been the barn.
865
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:04,800
I really think it should have
been when she went in there and
866
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,160
saw all the things that that man
had for his son and that you
867
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,160
don't even have that for your
baby.
868
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,800
Yeah.
And then I can see that then it
869
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,120
starts to creep, you know what
I'm saying, to the creep in.
870
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,840
But the the way they're doing it
of just because I guess you have
871
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,800
to have it visually for us, the
barn is something visual for and
872
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,160
it's really for us and.
I was going to say in the barn
873
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,040
is something that everybody
remembers.
874
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,960
Right.
And I guess that's what like,
875
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,280
don't worry about us.
Make it where it like it is real
876
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,400
and that is closing in on her.
And sometimes it's it may not
877
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,200
even be the barn, but other
little other things.
878
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,360
The Rubik's Cube could have done
it to her when he was pulling
879
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,440
out of the tape.
Well, when she was in Ash's
880
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,120
greenhouse and she played the.
The music.
881
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,160
She was crying, Yeah, but I mean
that that also.
882
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,120
That's what I'm saying.
That would have been the time to
883
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,480
like start it all.
You see what I'm saying?
884
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,000
Because she had that time and
she was like, you know what?
885
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,920
I've lost my real child even and
lost Henry, and those things
886
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,200
come back and then it's the barn
and it's just other little
887
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,800
things that just makes her think
of her.
888
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,160
They wrote it that way.
It's just how they riding it.
889
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,000
Like you, you put it in there
and you're not just taking the
890
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,280
time and care for it because you
need Carol to go through this,
891
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,080
right?
That's how I'm feeling.
892
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,440
Right.
So I think the other thing that
893
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,640
was that's kind of weird about
this whole, I guess Daryl and
894
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:44,080
Carol reunion is how long is
taking certain things to come up
895
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,200
in the conversation.
Like you've been on the road
896
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,400
with Carol, y'all have been at
these people's house and it's
897
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,440
not until y'all are back in the
house after the Madam Janae
898
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,360
soldiers have been to the house
looking for them.
899
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,520
Y'all come in the bedroom.
Now Carol is just now giving him
900
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,800
the little doll from Judith.
Now you are just asking how
901
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,360
Judith is.
That to me doesn't seem, it
902
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,400
seems weird because I would feel
like, yeah, Daryl has this
903
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,800
responsibility over here in
France, but this is Judith.
904
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,640
That should have been one of the
first questions out of Daryl's
905
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,680
mouth before they went anywhere.
Are the kids OK?
906
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,120
Especially when they're having
conversation in the woods And
907
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,480
he's like, so you just decided
to come up on a whim and, and,
908
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,680
and look for me and find me
here.
909
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,160
You didn't say anything about So
what about the kids?
910
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,800
Who's watching the kids?
Are the kids OK?
911
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,880
Is every none of that
conversation?
912
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,680
Y'all wait until they've been
they've been at this people's
913
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,160
house.
What a day 2 days and now you're
914
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,480
asking how is Judith?
How is she that just?
915
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:01,160
Yeah.
Doesn't seem right to me.
916
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,360
That part, it doesn't seem right
to me.
917
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,200
So it's.
Also throw it all day.
918
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,600
Huh.
Also throw an RJ like you.
919
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,840
Also been there.
Who that boy like step daddy?
920
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,200
Right.
Step in, Dad.
921
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,320
Come on now, help me.
So, so it's just weird to me
922
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:24,120
that you're leaving out what is,
I feel like all of these vital
923
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:28,440
topics of conversation.
Granted, he probably didn't
924
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,360
think about it because when they
were leaving the nest, Carol
925
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,200
said something about, you know,
all these people are missing
926
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,600
you.
And she mentioned RJ, she
927
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,400
mentioned you, that she
mentioned Connie.
928
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,640
She was like, yeah, we, we miss
you.
929
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,920
You know, everybody's been
worried about you.
930
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,840
Again, that should have been a
that should have been a
931
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,600
question.
Is everybody OK?
932
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,720
And and again, you're you're
dealing with trauma right now.
933
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:54,960
Your your, your girl, your
friend, your whatever she was to
934
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:59,120
you just died.
I'm assuming he knows that LO
935
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:04,600
saying killed her, because even
if it wasn't told outright, LO
936
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,640
saying was the one who let her
out.
937
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,200
Yeah, who took her out?
So he has to know Lo saying was
938
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,120
the one who killed her.
So I know he's focused on that.
939
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,240
He's focused on trying to find
the one.
940
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,720
But still, these are your
people.
941
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:24,160
You have literally been there
with Judith and RJ since birth.
942
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,640
These are other people who you
care about who love you.
943
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,120
And again, going back to that
line he dropped earlier in the
944
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,360
show.
I'm just wondering if the people
945
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,360
back home and thinking about me.
And now somebody there and you
946
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:41,720
ain't asking no about.
Nobody.
947
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:47,400
That's not a God damn thing up
until all this stuff.
948
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,600
But no you.
Know but no y'all walk.
949
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Y'all could talk about that on
the walk, right?
950
00:56:53,880 --> 00:57:00,840
Right, So I don't know, this
episode was kind of it's one of
951
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,440
those things where it's kind of
weird for me because again, I
952
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,600
love the fact that they did
reunite, but it's like you
953
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,920
reunite and then you go back to
the way things were before.
954
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,760
Like you didn't know, like you
wasn't just thinking whether or
955
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,160
not this man was dead for six
months or however long he's been
956
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:24,480
gone and you just didn't think
that you would be reunited with
957
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,920
your people because you've been
stuck in France for it's it's
958
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,480
just weird.
And I know I use that word a
959
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:33,400
lot.
It is.
960
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,080
It's.
It's weird, but it is.
961
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,440
They're out of character.
It is.
962
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,640
It just seems strange and and,
and even though they haven't,
963
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:48,600
they've been apart for a while.
There is also kind of like a
964
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,400
natural flow to the way Carol
and Daryl are together.
965
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,680
And you see that once Madam
Janae's people come back to the
966
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,880
house because when they have to,
when they have to hide, they
967
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,480
don't want to court.
OK, you go do this.
968
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,640
I go do this.
Like bam, bam, bam.
969
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,440
They're in sequence when it
comes to being upstairs.
970
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,760
And Madam Janae actually finds
Carol and she's about to shoot
971
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,720
Carol and Daryl comes in the
back and forth like it's they're
972
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,520
very synchronized when it comes
to certain things.
973
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,120
So again, the the back and forth
with them, the pettiness in this
974
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,920
episode when y'all haven't seen
each other, however long it just
975
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,560
it threw the vibe of the whole
episode off for me.
976
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,120
I'm not saying y'all got to be
lovey devil with each other.
977
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,360
I'm not saying y'all have to be
like tiptoeing around each other
978
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:46,040
being nice but come on now.
Act like you missed each other,
979
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,880
right?
That's the whole thing.
980
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:55,920
And I feel part of me feels like
they have them acting in that
981
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:04,680
way to kind of to kind of
contrast this whole conversation
982
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,640
that's been happening with the
two older people.
983
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,520
And.
Oh, yeah.
984
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,120
We think your sister Isabel, we
think you're the person that
985
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,600
Daryl loves because Laurent told
us that y'all love each other,
986
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,400
but y'all just don't know how to
express it.
987
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,360
Or rather it, I guess Izzy might
have said something, but Daryl,
988
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,720
of course, hasn't.
And I just feel like because
989
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,960
they're they keep pushing this
with the old people.
990
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,400
Yeah.
You guys love each other.
991
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,360
And this is how y'all should
act.
992
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,920
And da, da, da, da, da, you
know?
993
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:34,400
Yeah, old man is not my husband,
but when I, you know, I was
994
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,440
alone and I was by myself and
then I found love again and blah
995
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,360
blah blah.
And it's like she's trying to
996
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,680
tell Carol that this is
something Carol can do.
997
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,040
Excuse me, Sister Isabel.
This is something she can do as
998
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,520
well with that.
It was just too much.
999
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,720
It was too much.
It was too much.
1000
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,760
Y'all trying to force this
little thing and then y'all got
1001
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,880
them acting like they pissed off
at each other.
1002
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,200
Y'all seen each other in six
months.
1003
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,800
Y'all ain't did nothing to be
pissed off at each other about,
1004
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:10,680
so come on.
But anyway, Madame Nay ends up
1005
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,760
finding them because the first
time her soldiers came around,
1006
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,040
the couple gave them like some
food and stuff to get them off
1007
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,280
the grounds.
But apparently the dude, the old
1008
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,120
guy.
Told her soldiers, yeah, they're
1009
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,680
here, come back, they're
supposed to leave tomorrow,
1010
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,920
Distracting them with some
truffle eggs, which I've never
1011
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,760
heard of truffle eggs.
So now I need to look them up
1012
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,120
and see what they are and
whether or not they are really
1013
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,960
as good as they taste because
they were making it seem like
1014
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,560
this was gold on the plate.
Carol and Darrell were both
1015
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,640
impressed.
Madame Janay ended up eating
1016
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,680
some.
She was like, oh, truffle eggs.
1017
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,240
I was like, what the fuck is a
truffle egg?
1018
01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:01,120
I don't I don't know.
But Madame Janay.
1019
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:09,520
So did we not say that as soon
as Carol set foot in France,
1020
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,160
Madame Janay's days are out are
are numbered.
1021
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,680
And we also said that Carol was
going to have to be the one to
1022
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,280
kill Janae and Daryl was going
to be the one to kill Losain.
1023
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,760
That's what we were saying when
we were talking about them.
1024
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,360
And Carol most definitely held
up her end of the bargain.
1025
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,640
Because when I say, I was not
expecting that to happen to
1026
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:36,240
Madam Janae when Carol shot the
serum into her back and shot it
1027
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,120
in a place where she couldn't
remove it.
1028
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,280
Right.
So she couldn't do the Carol
1029
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,840
thing where we just.
And she didn't have on a leather
1030
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,280
jacket.
No, it went right through the
1031
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,120
skin, right?
Through.
1032
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,560
Her eyes, but it's the best way
for her to die.
1033
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,640
It is.
It very much is.
1034
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,640
She definitely earned that
death.
1035
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,680
Yeah, she did.
It was great.
1036
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,440
But I was.
I'll be late though, but it was
1037
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,960
great.
It was.
1038
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,240
It was.
I wasn't expecting that to
1039
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,120
happen to her.
Right.
1040
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,480
Not so.
Not so.
1041
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,560
Oh, right, No.
No.
1042
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,800
No, no, the the reaction of the
serum.
1043
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,840
I wasn't expecting that to have
her whole face.
1044
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:16,840
Damn this.
Well, I said.
1045
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,400
Right.
Right.
1046
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,600
It did.
Because you would think.
1047
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,400
But then again, they probably
weren't thinking that far.
1048
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,160
They were just like, OK, we need
to figure out how to make this
1049
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:34,280
serum to make these walkers, you
know, weapons that we can
1050
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,920
control.
Because that was what she said
1051
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,960
at the beginning of the episode.
That was what they were working
1052
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,400
on.
But they weren't looking for
1053
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,040
they weren't.
They weren't looking for the
1054
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,360
result it would have on you on
on on live.
1055
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,280
Right, because if that was the
case, y'all would have done
1056
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:55,440
something a little bit different
because that was not the way to
1057
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,600
go.
I know she felt pain in every
1058
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,640
single part, but at the same
time, I was like this.
1059
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,240
I said it had to be Carol to
kill her.
1060
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,920
And I know we were talking about
was it the last episode or two
1061
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,640
episodes ago when we were like,
why didn't Darryl just kill her?
1062
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,680
Oh no, it was the first episode.
We were like, Darryl could have
1063
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,040
just shot her and been done with
it.
1064
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:20,640
And I had to sit here and think,
aside from Leah because she was
1065
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,440
trying to kill Maggie, has
Darryl killed another woman
1066
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:29,280
before?
Because Daryl might be one of
1067
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,680
those people that's like, I'm
not going to hit a woman.
1068
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,880
I'm not going to shoot a woman,
that sort of thing.
1069
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,160
And maybe that was why he
hesitated with Madam Janae.
1070
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,600
But I was sitting here thinking,
I was like, I know he killed
1071
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,760
Leah, but Leah was literally on
top of Maggie, about to kill
1072
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,160
her.
But I can't think of any other
1073
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,800
instance where Daryl killed a
woman, like a live woman, maybe
1074
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,840
a Walker.
Yeah.
1075
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,200
But I can't think of any other
instance.
1076
01:03:55,200 --> 01:04:02,760
Can you?
Did he not kill any of the trash
1077
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,480
people?
That the trash people and also
1078
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,920
the I can't think of their names
right now skin.
1079
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,720
Who?
The skin wearing ones.
1080
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,240
The whispers, the.
Whispers.
1081
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:19,160
He didn't kill any whispers.
Not any women whispers that I
1082
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,440
can think of.
How do we know when it was in
1083
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,080
that big group and they were
just killing people?
1084
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,280
I don't know, but I mean, maybe
he did that this course they
1085
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,000
they had the mask on so he
wouldn't have known if they were
1086
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:31,760
women or not.
He.
1087
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,240
Just was killing.
But yeah, because, yeah, but if
1088
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,880
you think about it, like him
face to face with somebody with
1089
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,040
with the people that he fights
killing, I don't think he's ever
1090
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,120
killed a woman before.
So that way.
1091
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,120
He has probably in a large
group, but you talk about
1092
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,280
combat, probably no, because he
normally gets in combat with men
1093
01:04:54,600 --> 01:05:01,160
and women normally don't like
take him on, right?
1094
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,120
Again, I want to say like, I
love it when people get the
1095
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,400
death they deserve.
Yes, because you did that to
1096
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,360
people.
So you end up getting injected
1097
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,160
with your own serum.
Perfect.
1098
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,720
And and the even more poetic
part is I know you say she did
1099
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,160
it to people, but she killed the
people first to do that to them.
1100
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,440
So the fact is, she got it when
she was alive.
1101
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:28,880
Right.
So that's what I'm saying she
1102
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,160
deserved.
You still kill people and.
1103
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,480
She felt everything and then
when she looked in the mirror
1104
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,000
and saw herself turning, I was
like.
1105
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,080
That was so cool.
That was so cool.
1106
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,160
I was like, yes, go ahead and
see the monster that you're
1107
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:51,680
about to become, because when I
say you deserve it, you deserve
1108
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,720
it.
And both Daryl and Carol looking
1109
01:05:53,720 --> 01:06:00,440
at her like we don't know who's
going to be like they didn't
1110
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,560
know.
But so like my screen name says,
1111
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,800
Ding Dong, the witch is dead.
One down, one to go, because
1112
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,360
again, you killed Isabel.
Los ain't got to die.
1113
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:17,160
Absolutely.
But now you taking your mission
1114
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,240
to a whole other level, even
when you're saying it towards
1115
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,840
the end, because once Madam
Janae's people go back and they
1116
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,720
tell those saying that, you
know, Janae is dead, they tell
1117
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:33,280
her Santa and he's like, oh, she
went after the boy and now she's
1118
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:34,440
dead.
Because they had that
1119
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,320
conversation, him and Madam
Janae, because she was like,
1120
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,120
yeah, guys going to be on my
side because I'm going to go
1121
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,480
find him and I'm going to kill
him and blah, blah, blah.
1122
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,040
So they're both thinking this.
And then of course now she dies.
1123
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:50,200
So he thinks, oh, she went after
him and now she's dead.
1124
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,000
That shows God is on our side.
I was like, no, that shows God
1125
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,680
ain't got around to you yet
'cause what you die is some is
1126
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,760
some deranged shit too, no?
God on Darrell's side.
1127
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,840
How about this?
How about he on Laurent's side?
1128
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:11,560
Let's let's put it like that.
But so now you come in, they let
1129
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,040
you free because they're saying
your way doesn't work.
1130
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,800
Our way doesn't work.
So what are we going to do?
1131
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,360
We're going to go together and
now we're going to search for
1132
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,520
this boy.
All is forgiven and da da da.
1133
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:30,680
And I was like, you know what?
You bout to die too.
1134
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:36,160
Because not only are you really
believing in your own bullshit,
1135
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,840
you're preaching this to your
followers.
1136
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,000
So now your followers.
Are.
1137
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,600
They going to sit here and
think, Oh yeah, well, you know,
1138
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,960
this is what's going to happen.
We're going to, we're going to
1139
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,800
join with the, what is it, Pavar
de Vivant?
1140
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,480
And we're, we're going to go get
La Ront back and he's going to
1141
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,080
be our leader and he's going to
do.
1142
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,440
I was like, you know, what, Did
y'all not even remember that
1143
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,640
this man was about to let a
Walker bite La Ront just to
1144
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,840
prove his point.
I was like, OK, you know what?
1145
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:10,240
Y'all totally missed that part.
All of y'all can die at this
1146
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,680
point.
Y'all following this man blindly
1147
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,920
like right?
Kill someone for the sake you
1148
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,560
know a perfectly.
Good human.
1149
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,960
Excuse me, let's kill a
perfectly good child.
1150
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,840
Yeah.
And he can be our leader and he
1151
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,840
can lead us into the future and
blah blah blah blah blah.
1152
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,880
It would be fine if y'all had
this little fanatic obsession
1153
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,560
with him, if y'all weren't
trying to kill them.
1154
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,120
And I understand things like
this.
1155
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,000
They all.
There's always a sacrifice.
1156
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,080
Whatever, I don't believe in
that shit.
1157
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:50,040
Leave the what the fuck alone?
But they I'm sorry, I'm sorry at
1158
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:58,080
this point with knowing that
Daryl and Carol show up and
1159
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,319
number one, LeBron is always
safe, but everybody associated
1160
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,160
with trying to harm them get
fucked up.
1161
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,560
What would you continue to go
after them?
1162
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,439
I'm sorry.
Oh, they want to so and so went
1163
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,399
after Oh, they did so and so
went after Oh, they did so and
1164
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:19,680
so went after they did.
Our people would not read the
1165
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,160
room.
Read the fucking room.
1166
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,720
They are not.
Because everybody that goes
1167
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:27,800
after them.
Died right?
1168
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:34,560
How many times is Madam Janae
tried to kill Daryl and who
1169
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,720
ended up dead hurt?
Even though they don't know that
1170
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,560
it was Carol but still they know
they know the Americans are
1171
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,120
together so one of them mother
fuckers killed her.
1172
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,200
Yeah, but most likely Daryl,
because they know Daryl.
1173
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,520
They know.
Everybody know the American
1174
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,319
Daryl.
Everybody know the American
1175
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,560
Daryl.
They got American Carol at this
1176
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,680
point.
Does that mean?
1177
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,480
But again, then I think it's
common sense because here's the
1178
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:05,040
thing, OK, Yeah.
You know, Darrell, you know,
1179
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,760
he's the American.
You know, he's the one that's
1180
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,880
been thwarting everybody's plans
and doing this and doing that.
1181
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,440
This bitch came from across the
sea.
1182
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:19,000
She found a way to get to Paris
to come and rescue her BFF.
1183
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,200
That's the one y'all need to be
worried about because that's the
1184
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,360
one that probably ain't got her
screws in tight.
1185
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,600
She got on a plane 12 years into
a zombie apocalypse.
1186
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,600
Yeah, I wouldn't have done that.
And came to Paris to look for
1187
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,280
her bestie.
That's the woman y'all don't
1188
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,720
want to fuck with.
And Madam Janae found that out
1189
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,600
the hard way.
I'm telling.
1190
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:52,280
You find out the hard way too.
Find out the hard way what was
1191
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,760
it you said, Casey?
You said that's going to be a
1192
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,680
good fight because Los sang
going going to have his little
1193
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,320
toothpick.
Yeah, we're gonna have his
1194
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,400
whatever.
So yeah, that's coming even next
1195
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,960
episode or the episode after
that.
1196
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,800
Because there has to be a thing
now.
1197
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,680
Because not only not only did
you keep me prisoner and you
1198
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,280
tortured me, but now you don't
kill Isabel.
1199
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:18,240
Regardless of how Daryl felt
about her, whether he loved her
1200
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,720
or not, that was still a friend.
That was still somebody.
1201
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,680
He may not have loved her
romantically, but he loved her.
1202
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,720
That was his friend.
That was somebody he grew to
1203
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,800
trust.
And you killed her trying to
1204
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,680
kill her nephew.
Darrell is about to get that
1205
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,480
ass.
He is about to beat that ass.
1206
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,960
Do you need to?
And I'm ready for it.
1207
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:48,320
I'm be like this.
Watching with popcorn, sitting
1208
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,200
there looking, 'cause that,
that's the only thing you can do
1209
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,280
now.
Yeah, it's the only thing you
1210
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:58,680
can do.
So Los ain't got it coming.
1211
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:03,080
He had it coming.
He had it coming, just like she
1212
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,800
did.
He did, and it was marvelous.
1213
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,440
It was great.
I was like, oh, look at these
1214
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:11,400
it.
Was gross as hell.
1215
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,400
I.
Mean that part too.
1216
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,920
But you know what also made me
stop and think when when is
1217
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:22,560
these people don't give up and
be walkers because some of them
1218
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,680
they get shot in the head?
What's taking so long?
1219
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,920
Where you mean at the nest?
No, I'm talking about the house,
1220
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:31,560
some of her stuff.
I.
1221
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,520
Figured when they buried old
girl they probably went through
1222
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:36,520
and make sure everybody was
there.
1223
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,880
OK, yeah, but still I thought
somebody would turn.
1224
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,440
Like even though I thought old
girl was going to turn because
1225
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:44,240
he'd been hit in there hugging
her, it took her a while.
1226
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,080
Well.
Think about it because most of
1227
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:51,800
the times when regular humans
die, remember it kind of varies
1228
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,880
how quick they turn.
Us so it does vary so I assume
1229
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,680
that couple of the you know so
soldiers would have gotten up.
1230
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,640
I'm just saying it's a couple,
but I know that they took care.
1231
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,200
It don't play, you know, it
doesn't play with the emotions
1232
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,240
that we were going with.
So I know they took.
1233
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,920
Care of it, they took care of it
because.
1234
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:15,040
Remember on on fear when fuck is
his name?
1235
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,760
I want to say Terry.
I know that his name, but when
1236
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,960
old boy, when they were killing
the killing the people in timing
1237
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,880
them Troy, that's when they were
killing the people in timing
1238
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:29,440
them in the in the seasons.
So you know, they took them
1239
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:31,520
about 10-15 minutes to turn.
Yeah.
1240
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,520
And then you have some who who
turn a lot quicker than that.
1241
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:40,400
So yeah.
But I would assume they they
1242
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,000
went through the house because
they were like, yeah, this is
1243
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:47,400
something we don't need to do.
And even though I feel like if
1244
01:13:47,480 --> 01:13:51,440
that, I will say this.
No, because Darryl, Darryl
1245
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:56,720
probably would have done it too.
If it wasn't for the fact that
1246
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,920
they actually liked the old lady
and they stayed to bury her,
1247
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,600
they probably would have left
that man in the house with all
1248
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,480
the walkers.
Like, you know what, you deserve
1249
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:07,680
it.
You, you brought this on
1250
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,400
yourself.
But at the same time, he was
1251
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:15,680
trying to protect the woman.
And even if Darryl and Carol had
1252
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,280
left the village, Janae's
soldiers probably would have
1253
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,920
kept coming back.
And again, if they've been
1254
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,920
living there in peace for
however many years they've been
1255
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,000
there together, they probably
will like, look, let's just give
1256
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,400
them what they're looking for.
They will leave us alone.
1257
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,200
They will know that we, you
know, that we are loyal.
1258
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:38,200
We are not harboring criminals
or fugitives or whatever.
1259
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,400
And they'll leave us alone.
So I think that was really his
1260
01:14:42,440 --> 01:14:45,200
his motivation.
He just wanted to be left alone
1261
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,560
with the woman he loved for
however long they had.
1262
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,480
And unfortunately, when you
double cross Darryl and Carol,
1263
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:54,240
that shit does not work out for
you.
1264
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,800
So.
It don't even matter if you
1265
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:04,120
double cross or not, if they
enter your lives, it's over so.
1266
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,680
Yeah, they show up.
Michelle, they just, they just
1267
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,280
show up and you're like, oh,
it's my time to go.
1268
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,120
I just don't know when.
They they obviously wasn't
1269
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,600
paying attention because I mean,
Madam Janae should have
1270
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,480
understood.
Like how many times have you
1271
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:20,040
tried to get Daryl at this
point?
1272
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,120
How many times have you well
after you saw that small little?
1273
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,720
Old lady.
She's not really old, but when
1274
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:32,160
you saw that old little lady
duck behind, you see her duck
1275
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:37,760
behind the big man, but when you
see her Sprint to the Jeep, you
1276
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,040
should have known something.
Right.
1277
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,320
Uneasy to kill?
Y'all shot her in the shoulder
1278
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:49,520
with one of your serum atom
arrows or darts and she took
1279
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,640
that shit out of her shoulder
like it was nothing and was like
1280
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:58,680
oh this what y'all want to do I
got you bit and ran to the and
1281
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:05,680
not only that all your soldiers
and all that high tech machinery
1282
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,840
y'all can shoot her not once
Y'all can't even graze a leg
1283
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,520
like that should have told you
right then and there.
1284
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,360
OK you know what we don't want
to fuck with her.
1285
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:19,160
We just going to leave her alone
and.
1286
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:20,440
Look.
Oh, she's.
1287
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:22,760
Going to go to Daryl so she can
lead us to him.
1288
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,280
That's what they should have
done.
1289
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,880
They should have just been like,
OK, you know what, let's just
1290
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,200
go.
But of course they had their
1291
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:33,240
walkers.
The walkers were running.
1292
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:34,920
They were going straight to the
nest.
1293
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,440
They were following Carol and
Codron.
1294
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,840
So I guess they were like, OK,
you know what?
1295
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,120
The walkers will finish what we
what we started 'cause there
1296
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:48,120
really isn't too many ways that
they can get off of Mont St.
1297
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:52,880
Michel.
And then Codron, you know, he
1298
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,920
gets off when Carol frees him,
he goes and he's like, yeah,
1299
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,600
I'll hold them off for you.
Tell tell Dixon I did it for the
1300
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,800
boy.
I was like, OK, so maybe Codrone
1301
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,920
didn't make it, but maybe he
did.
1302
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:10,720
Who knows?
But he has clearly turned to
1303
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,960
Daryl side and I hope him and
Daryl get to have that
1304
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,840
conversation and they can have
that, you know.
1305
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,640
So why have you been trying to
kill me for the last six months?
1306
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,040
Oh, because you killed my
brother.
1307
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,000
What makes you think I killed
your brother?
1308
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,560
Oh no, who is your brother?
Right, right.
1309
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,040
That too.
Yeah, and that part like when
1310
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:34,680
people at this point I don't.
Know that girl in the grandpa
1311
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,200
killed her because maybe once he
maybe once cuz your own finds
1312
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,040
out he'll feel justified because
he did kill the old man.
1313
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,320
I think he let the girl go if I
remember correctly.
1314
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,280
But you did kill the old man, so
you did they get vengeance for
1315
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,920
your brother in in some way?
You just didn't know it.
1316
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:54,000
So let's hope that he survived
so they can at least have that
1317
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,040
conversation.
But I'm I, I kind of feel like
1318
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,400
this too.
Unless if Cadrone has survived,
1319
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:07,840
if he decides to stay with
Darryl and Carol, as far as like
1320
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:12,840
trying to fight the newly
formed, I don't know.
1321
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:19,560
Whatever they call Union of
Hope, whatever that combination
1322
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:24,200
is, I don't know if he's going
to survive because again,
1323
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,040
they're moving to Spain for the
third season.
1324
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,200
We don't know where the
storyline is going.
1325
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,360
But is control really going to
leave France?
1326
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,320
Well, I guess, I guess at this
point he really has no reason to
1327
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:39,200
stay in France, if you think
about it, because his brother's
1328
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,880
gone.
Most of his men are gone.
1329
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,280
The person that he was employed
by, she's dead.
1330
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,440
Her people are now joined with
MO Sang.
1331
01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:55,160
And if Cadrone is all about, oh,
I, I believe in Laurent, he's
1332
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,920
not going to follow them because
they're trying to kill Laurent,
1333
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,960
right?
So maybe we'll maybe we'll
1334
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,360
escape this season with one
person from the show to go into
1335
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,560
the next season.
One person look.
1336
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,760
'Cause everybody else dead.
We already know what Sang is
1337
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,240
about to die.
Look Ash, 'cause you need the
1338
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:14,840
pilot.
Oh, well, yeah, and Ash.
1339
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,040
But Ash started in the States,
so I'm I'm talking about the
1340
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,360
French people.
We'll we'll have nobody.
1341
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,240
You don't think a drone will
make it?
1342
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:27,400
No, the the the nest already on
fire.
1343
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,280
He.
Probably got away.
1344
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,400
But I'm saying that Sanctuary is
on fire.
1345
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:39,160
Like how you gonna fix that?
What I mean, Los Angina are
1346
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,160
still there because that's where
they were meeting.
1347
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:42,720
Yeah, but.
OK.
1348
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,200
So they probably put it on.
Fire.
1349
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,600
They probably put the fires out.
And now that Madam and they
1350
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,480
gone.
Oh, you, you know when the what
1351
01:19:49,480 --> 01:19:51,680
they say when the when the hands
away the fox, the playoff,
1352
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,960
please that that's about to be
chaos up in there.
1353
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:55,720
Who's going?
To run that.
1354
01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:59,080
Cause who's going to run that?
They going to think they, you
1355
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,160
know, with with the they.
Already got Losang in charge the
1356
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,840
way he came out when, what's the
name, release them.
1357
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,680
And he came out to speak to his
followers and he was like
1358
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:12,240
everything is forgiven, we're
going to do blah blah, blah
1359
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,760
yeah, you about to be the big
bad and there was going to whoop
1360
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,560
your ass sometime within the
next two episodes.
1361
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,160
You either going to be beat real
bad or you going to die.
1362
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:26,000
And I think you're going to die
because there was going to be
1363
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,600
pissed off because you killed
Isabel and you left Laurent
1364
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,120
alone.
So yeah, left him with no family
1365
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:36,080
now, no, no security, no people
to protect him.
1366
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,600
He took the closest thing he had
to family.
1367
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,680
You took his aunt, and you took
the person who he grew up with
1368
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,040
as his sister.
Yeah.
1369
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,400
So yeah.
Los Angeles about to die.
1370
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,320
He bout to die.
He bout to die you.
1371
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,840
Gonna die today.
You gonna die today?
1372
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:05,080
So we have two episodes left.
There's two for the season and
1373
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:10,520
then I believe, I believe Daryl
Dixon season 3 should come out
1374
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,200
next year because the one thing
about the Daryl Dixon show, we
1375
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:18,440
have not been getting long
hiatuses with this show because
1376
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:24,040
the first season released last
year right around Dragon Con.
1377
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:29,720
This season released, you know,
right after Dragon Con in
1378
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:33,560
September.
So we may get the third season
1379
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,560
by next fall if they keep on
track.
1380
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,640
I do know that Dead City is
supposed to start sometime in
1381
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,760
2025.
And then Michelle, stop with
1382
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:48,160
that face, stop with that face,
stop with that face.
1383
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,360
We don't, we don't see what to
do.
1384
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:56,080
But I think we'll get Daryl
Dixon probably in in the fall,
1385
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,000
especially since if I'm not
mistaken, I think either they've
1386
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,120
rapped or they're close to
rapping because they've been
1387
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:07,680
filming Season 3 for a minute.
So I wonder if we'll give more
1388
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,480
than six episodes.
They're not going to give us
1389
01:22:11,480 --> 01:22:14,240
more than six episodes. 6
episodes seems to be the
1390
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:18,080
standard now because even with
shows that are coming out on
1391
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,720
other streaming platforms, like
one of the shows that we are
1392
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:25,840
planning to cover on this
podcast is the Doom Prophecy
1393
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:32,520
series on Max, which is based on
the Doom story.
1394
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,480
I checked yesterday that only
has 6 episodes.
1395
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:42,400
Yeah, I'm like, OK, no, I think
that one has eight.
1396
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:47,200
That one may have 8:00.
But even still, that's that's
1397
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,360
short, short season.
You know, we used to episode 12
1398
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,000
episode seasons.
Yeah, or even 23, but that's
1399
01:22:54,000 --> 01:23:00,560
network TV so I don't know.
But I, I have seen some articles
1400
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:04,000
lately where, you know, there
have been people talking about
1401
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,760
the shorter seasons and the long
hiatuses and they're like, y'all
1402
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,600
wonder why people don't pay
attention to shit anymore.
1403
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:15,920
And then you got play, you got
streaming companies like Netflix
1404
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,920
who are canceling right and left
after one season.
1405
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,200
Like y'all aren't even giving
the shows a chance.
1406
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:28,000
Why would you put so much money
into 8 episodes, 10 episodes and
1407
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,040
then not give it a chance to
flourish?
1408
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,680
I think all shows should have a
two season minimum at least
1409
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:40,080
because you might not get the
the the you want with the first
1410
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:46,360
season, but then you have you do
a second season.
1411
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,200
That might be where you get your
audience.
1412
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:52,240
Or I mean kind of like some of
these other one season season
1413
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,600
shows.
Firefly is a perfect example.
1414
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:58,840
You cancel it after one season
because you think it's bad and
1415
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,800
here it is 50 million years
later, people still are into
1416
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:07,120
Firefly.
So I don't know.
1417
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:12,160
But next, next fall, I hope we
get the Daryl Dixon season 3.
1418
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:20,080
Yes, I don't know what we're
doing with with Madrid, but
1419
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,560
again, it has to do.
It's going to have to be
1420
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,880
something about them trying to
escape France and something
1421
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,480
happens.
Maybe maybe Ash's plane die out
1422
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,120
plane.
Maybe the plane runs out of fuel
1423
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,000
again.
Maybe he didn't fix the fuel
1424
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:42,160
line properly or maybe Oh no,
no, no, this is going to be the
1425
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:50,200
real kicker.
So if Daryl finds Laurent, finds
1426
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:56,000
Falou, Falou may not leave
France, but Daryl will probably
1427
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,240
take Laurent with him to the
States because that's what his
1428
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,000
and him and Isabel were talking
about, going to the States,
1429
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:06,040
right?
I don't think four people can
1430
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:11,760
fit in Ashes.
Plane Well, Ash can't die
1431
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,560
because he's the only one who
knows how to fly the.
1432
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,520
Right, so he can't.
Die unless Laurent has magical
1433
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,080
powers.
No, I don't think.
1434
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,000
So he can't die till season 3
and I.
1435
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:27,840
Told you that Ash is going to
come back in season 3 with a kid
1436
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,520
and a a wife because he's been
sitting there with that plane
1437
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,600
and he met a woman that had a
kid after two we're just going
1438
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:42,080
to see him at the end the end of
the series go back to the plane
1439
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:43,760
and he don't have a wife and kid
he gonna.
1440
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:52,960
Go back to the to Greenland.
Ain't nobody left, at least not
1441
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:57,800
that we know of.
So, OK, so.
1442
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,960
So we have to keep him honestly.
But if he dies, we need someone
1443
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:06,560
who know how to fly a plane or
or a boat, right?
1444
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:07,880
That's what I was going to say.
A boat.
1445
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,480
Because, well, Losang is still
there.
1446
01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:12,960
Madam Sinead's people are still
there, so they probably still
1447
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,280
have control of the boats, but I
mean when this is over.
1448
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,320
They can get on the boat.
Yeah, not going to get on the
1449
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,480
plane.
They can't with, not with four
1450
01:26:23,480 --> 01:26:25,680
people.
So that means either somebody in
1451
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,560
the group has to die, which
means it'll probably end up
1452
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,680
being Laurent or.
No, he's not going to die.
1453
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,920
They would not kill it.
Well, we do kill it's.
1454
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:39,160
Going to have to be the other.
The only other real option would
1455
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:43,720
be Carol because if there's a
season 3 of Daryl Dixon, you're
1456
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:48,440
not going to kill Daryl Dixon.
If you kill can't kill Ash
1457
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,120
because Ash is the pilot.
No you can't kill Ash because
1458
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,360
they can go home.
Other options.
1459
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,120
So Ash is is can die, Ash can
die.
1460
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,440
But I'm, I'm looking at the more
immediate option.
1461
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:04,120
I'm talking about if they are
talking about using the plane.
1462
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,520
If they're still talking about
using the plane, it's not going
1463
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,040
to work with the four of them
because Ash flew that plane.
1464
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:13,600
They're thinking they were going
to pick up a 1212 years from
1465
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,160
now.
Sophia probably would have been,
1466
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:24,680
at the very least, she would
have been 2021, 2021, maybe 19,
1467
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,640
because I don't remember how old
she was when she died, But she
1468
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,400
and Carl were somewhere around
the same age.
1469
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:33,400
So she had to be somewhere
between, like, 8:00 and 11:00
1470
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,960
because I think Carl was
supposed to be like, right
1471
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,160
around 8:00 or 9:00 when we met
him.
1472
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:46,960
So yeah, you're expecting to
had, you know, bring this woman.
1473
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,760
She's not going to, she's not
going to weigh a lot.
1474
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:54,000
Just just thinking default wise,
you're probably thinking slim
1475
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,800
build.
Carol is not a big person, so
1476
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,560
Sophia might have taken after
her.
1477
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,800
She would have been slim build.
She would have been slight.
1478
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,800
She would have been light, not
too heavy.
1479
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,360
You can fly with the three of
those on that plane.
1480
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:09,480
You can't get somebody of
Daryl's size and Lauren and
1481
01:28:09,480 --> 01:28:14,320
Carol and Ash on that plane.
So either y'all don't take the
1482
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:18,640
plane and all of y'all leave, or
somebody takes the plane and
1483
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:22,680
either somebody dies or someone
gets left behind.
1484
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,800
Maybe that's how they end up in
Spain because they're like, OK,
1485
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,960
will you go on the plane?
We're going to go this.
1486
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,560
There's so many possibilities,
but.
1487
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,800
All four, maybe they all try to
fit and they they all try to fit
1488
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,320
and they don't.
As far as they get in Spain,
1489
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,040
yeah, that's possible.
That could be, yeah, I think.
1490
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,200
That.
It it'll just be low flying, you
1491
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:47,240
know, fun, get you up high
enough to be out of danger and
1492
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:51,360
but it.
But the end, the end, end.
1493
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:56,520
I think Laurent will go back to
the States and he would try to
1494
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,760
spit some game with Judith and
she going to be like, no, that
1495
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,600
don't work, but we could be
cousins.
1496
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,960
That's what's going to happen.
Yeah, that's big game 'cause
1497
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,280
we're not going to kill a Ron.
I mean, we're really not.
1498
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,760
And if you kill Carol, I'm like,
done.
1499
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:15,680
Yeah, I don't think Carol would
die either.
1500
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:16,960
You can't go.
You can.
1501
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,640
OK, first of all, I can't.
It will 'cause if you kill
1502
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,560
either one of them, right?
Period.
1503
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:28,120
They survived this too long.
And for her to get all the way
1504
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,320
to Paris, go through everything
she went through to get this,
1505
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,840
that's kill her.
All that and I said then last
1506
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,880
episode, but.
Because at the end they have to
1507
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:37,960
make it back to the
Commonwealth.
1508
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,880
It whatever that looks like
their final season last episode.
1509
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:47,400
Same way God damn the ones who
live, you got to make it back to
1510
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:48,640
the Commonwealth.
Yeah.
1511
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,560
So be fucking for real.
They ain't going to give up.
1512
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:56,320
Yeah, so again.
But they're going to make it.
1513
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:00,960
Yeah, but they can't put all
them people on the plane, so we.
1514
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,360
Just got to get home a different
way.
1515
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:03,720
We just got to get home a
different way.
1516
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:06,880
But you can't drive from Spain
to America.
1517
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:13,000
No, no, but, but they can.
I mean, we don't, we don't know
1518
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,680
what what's going on in other
countries.
1519
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,320
So we don't know what Spain may
have access to.
1520
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,200
We don't know what what the
situation is there.
1521
01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:24,800
So, you know, just like in
France, they did everything with
1522
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,200
boats and they have a lot of
boats.
1523
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,320
They might have planes in Spain
and the span, you know, the
1524
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,080
people in Madrid were probably
like, yeah, if this is what it
1525
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,640
looked like here, We're not
going nowhere else in the world.
1526
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,600
We don't care about them.
We just don't keep our shit to
1527
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,200
ourselves.
They they could very well do
1528
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,560
that.
So I don't know.
1529
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:47,520
We'll, I think we'll probably be
better able to figure out or to
1530
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:54,240
guess what's going on.
Maybe after next episode, but
1531
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,160
definitely by episode 6 we going
to figure out what the hell is
1532
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,360
going on.
But I think it's fun to try to
1533
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:02,440
guess because there are, you
know, when you start talking
1534
01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:04,400
about it, when we start talking
about it, there are more
1535
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:09,600
scenarios than we think, you
know, because the plane is not
1536
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:14,760
the only thing available.
They could, like we said, get on
1537
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:16,600
a boat.
They could travel to other
1538
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,480
countries and then make their
way that way.
1539
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:24,520
We don't know.
But no, I don't think Carol is
1540
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,040
going to die.
But I'm just saying, if that was
1541
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:30,440
something maybe, and we don't
know, maybe Melissa McBride was
1542
01:31:30,440 --> 01:31:34,360
like, you know what, I'll come
back and do this season, but I'm
1543
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,280
tired.
I don't want to do this anymore.
1544
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,160
She could very well have said
that.
1545
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,920
Yeah, and she could say she want
wants to die.
1546
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,080
And you know what?
If she does, it will be she
1547
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,920
sacrificed herself to say Daryl
and Laura.
1548
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:49,840
Yeah, and now?
I don't like that, but I'm OK
1549
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,880
because I get that because she
will say don't keep me alive
1550
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,920
because that means I have a
possibility having to come back
1551
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,480
and we negotiate back and forth
about me coming back and I don't
1552
01:31:59,480 --> 01:32:03,400
want to come back, but that
would make it where I'm never
1553
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,920
coming back.
Yeah, but I don't think that's
1554
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:09,560
going to happen either.
I don't think Darrell or Carol
1555
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:14,240
would be killed.
The only reason why I would say
1556
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:19,320
that they probably would kill
Laurent is because I know when
1557
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:23,240
it comes to this show and
emotional ties with characters
1558
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:27,760
or whatever they really don't
care especially even when it
1559
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:32,200
comes to children because y'all
kill Carl off and Carl should
1560
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,520
still be here so.
Yeah, but we know why.
1561
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,120
So that's that.
And I and I understand it, but
1562
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,800
but taking all of that out,
taking all of that out, if you
1563
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:47,280
just looking at the story.
It makes no sense for Laurent to
1564
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,400
die and.
It makes sense for Carl.
1565
01:32:49,480 --> 01:32:52,360
To die, but Carl had to die
because we couldn't.
1566
01:32:52,440 --> 01:32:55,240
We couldn't keep Carl.
So you have to think of another
1567
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:59,760
kid who was willing to stay.
I'm just saying Carl had to go.
1568
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:03,480
It's not like we haven't killed
children on this show before.
1569
01:33:03,480 --> 01:33:07,080
No, we have.
We have killed, but I'm just
1570
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:14,080
saying Laurent because we making
Dale invest in this kid for him
1571
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:19,680
to die at the end and then Daryl
come back that that's there was
1572
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:23,520
no point.
It was a point for Isabel to to
1573
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,320
move the story on.
There's no point.
1574
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,240
Things have happened it.
Has, but I just feel like
1575
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:32,280
Laurent will come to America now
if he died later.
1576
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:37,320
OK, sure.
You know, when they go try to
1577
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:43,080
save Maggie or something,
Laurent may die.
1578
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,680
And we'd be like, oh, poor
Laurent, he came to America.
1579
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:49,440
Lasted a month.
I mean, yeah, but Daryl got him
1580
01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:51,040
here, and Daryl kept his
promise.
1581
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:55,080
So we need him to keep his
promise and to do what he need
1582
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:56,640
needed to.
See and then see.
1583
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,320
For me, that would be that would
be the part that makes no sense.
1584
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,440
You get you make you keep your
promise, you keep them safe.
1585
01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:05,720
You get them all the way to the
Americas and then he dies
1586
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,160
because then you're going to
have their guilt like, Oh, I
1587
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,520
should have just left them in
front.
1588
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:13,160
So that's fine.
Again, look, we we can put
1589
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,240
everything on one of those
wheels and just kind of spin for
1590
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,640
the possibilities and determine
like that.
1591
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,800
You know, I said something about
having a Deadpool for, I don't
1592
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,240
remember if it was this show or
something else we were talking
1593
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,640
about, but I'm like, yeah, maybe
we should just put down our
1594
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:33,360
predictions on how this season
will end and then just go back
1595
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,440
and see which one of us was
right.
1596
01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:37,480
Or, you know, that might be
funny.
1597
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,920
We'll do that for Season 3.
Right.
1598
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,520
How will this end?
Because it may be the end of two
1599
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,720
and Leroy's dead and we're going
on to Season 3.
1600
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,800
We like what what happened.
And I'm going to be like I told
1601
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,520
you also.
But Carrie and Noah, So what
1602
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,240
they're going to do is at.
That point, Season 3 just going
1603
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:58,480
to be about getting home hell.
Yeah, well, you know, you know
1604
01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:00,800
they go.
They'll be like the equalizer.
1605
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,680
He just going to be taking out
his revenge.
1606
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,000
Yeah, and, you know, they are
very good about.
1607
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:14,200
Oh, wait, OK, I'm gonna hold
that thought.
1608
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,960
But, you know, they are very
good for introducing.
1609
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,720
And I'm not talking about just
Walking Dead, but, you know, TV
1610
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:24,280
shows have a very good track
record of introducing the new
1611
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,040
big bad in the very last episode
of the season.
1612
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:32,280
That might carry us on.
But I just thought about
1613
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:36,720
something as far as Spain goes.
What?
1614
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,920
Who's in Spain?
Not even who's in Spain.
1615
01:35:42,440 --> 01:35:44,360
Placenta is a Spanish name,
isn't it?
1616
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:56,680
Yeah, what do you carry?
On maybe she going to be the big
1617
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,440
bad because remember she's the
one that's been kind of standing
1618
01:36:00,440 --> 01:36:03,680
behind low saying pushing him to
do stuff.
1619
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:08,640
So maybe.
She works for a big bad or
1620
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:12,080
organization.
Either there or if Daryl if
1621
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,800
Daryl kills Lo sang, her sensor
is right there.
1622
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:19,880
If she's Lo sangs second in
command she might be the one to
1623
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:24,560
move the the movement further.
And if she's if they're still
1624
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,800
after Daryl, maybe they'll go to
Spain for that.
1625
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,680
I'm just saying because other
than that I can't think of any
1626
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:33,240
other reason why they would go
to Madrid.
1627
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,280
Except for that plane falling
out the sky.
1628
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,320
Right, so.
But you wouldn't even go that
1629
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,240
direction.
Right.
1630
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,320
And that's what I was thinking
because I was like, isn't
1631
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:53,800
staying on the other side like
not towards the ocean?
1632
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,520
It's South of them.
Let's see.
1633
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,480
OK.
Yeah, South of them.
1634
01:36:59,960 --> 01:37:12,240
I'm looking it up too.
So yeah, I yeah, OK, so so we'll
1635
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:16,600
think about this a little bit
more and then maybe episode 6,
1636
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:20,680
we'll all have our theories as
far as what takes them to Spain.
1637
01:37:21,480 --> 01:37:26,640
Yeah, I mean, Spain is South of
France, but Madrid is super
1638
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,920
inland.
It ain't nowhere near the water.
1639
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:36,080
So that so that makes no OK.
You have to keep it really.
1640
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:42,360
It really doesn't so.
Unless they're doing that to
1641
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:46,520
kind of throw off Losang and his
followers, because if they have
1642
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:51,680
a plane low and and Losang finds
this out, he could probably be
1643
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:55,000
like, oh, they're going to go.
They're going to go home now.
1644
01:37:55,000 --> 01:38:00,040
I don't, I would say on a
regular, if it was a regular
1645
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:03,560
situation, no saying is not
about to go to the to the United
1646
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:08,120
States.
But if Daryl has la want, that
1647
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:13,200
might be enough motivation for
him to go to the States to try
1648
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,760
to get Laurent back.
Because remember, he doesn't
1649
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:22,000
want to kill Laurent per SE.
He wants to do this ceremony to,
1650
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,360
to prove that Laurent can
survive the bite.
1651
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,720
That is his whole thing.
It's not like he was trying to
1652
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,920
kill Laurent.
Whereas Madam Janae was
1653
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,400
definitely trying to kill
Laurent because Laurent
1654
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,000
contradicted what she was trying
to do.
1655
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:45,160
So I guess we'll figure it out.
Like I said, we'll, we'll watch
1656
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:50,560
Episode 5 and then if we don't
have anything in that episode to
1657
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:55,400
tell us or to point us towards
Madrid and what might happen to
1658
01:38:55,400 --> 01:39:00,000
get them there, then we can
maybe, you know, put out our
1659
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,040
theories on what's going to
happen in Episode 6 and how to
1660
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,640
end up in Madrid.
Because again, right now, with
1661
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:09,880
us not knowing, the
possibilities are endless.
1662
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:12,880
Absolutely right.
And we really need to know how
1663
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:17,360
they got there because if they
right, that's two hours and some
1664
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:23,200
change.
If they walk, it's 273 hours.
1665
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:28,360
If they're in a car.
That said, I had to look it up.
1666
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:34,840
If they're in a car, oh, it's
what, 1312 hours?
1667
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,200
OK.
And that's that's on, that's on
1668
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,320
regular Rd.
So that's not considering that
1669
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,320
they may run out of gas that the
vehicles have may have been
1670
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:49,120
sitting there for however long.
That's not counting that they
1671
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:53,440
may encounter walkers or they
may counter encounter other
1672
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:58,080
hostile people.
So that's best case scenario.
1673
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:02,000
So yeah, so we'll think.
That's just that's, I don't
1674
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:02,440
know.
We.
1675
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,920
I don't know.
We'll watch episode 5 and then
1676
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,120
we'll think about our theories
and then we'll put them out
1677
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,400
there and then we'll see how how
things go.
1678
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,360
Yep.
Sound good?
1679
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:14,280
Sound like a plan?
Sound like.
1680
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,920
Yeah, sound like a plan.
You guys have any final thoughts
1681
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:22,360
about this episode?
No, go try it and get back.
1682
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,000
Away.
Wait, what you say, Casey?
1683
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:27,720
I said.
I'm just glad they're back
1684
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,080
together now.
They get over on this in
1685
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,720
fighting and act like they love
each other.
1686
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,440
Right and, and go kill those
things.
1687
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,600
That's what we need.
So on that note, that is it for
1688
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,440
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1689
01:40:41,440 --> 01:40:45,680
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1690
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,280
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1691
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,960
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01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,920
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1693
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:56,000
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1694
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