The Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon: The Book of Carol S2E5 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #317

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Casey.
And we are talking about episode

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5 of Season 2's Daryl Dixon, The
Book of Carol.

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We said it, we've been saying
it.

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We said it.
Daryl versus Low saying was

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gonna have to go down.
And we got it in this episode.

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Yes.
And it was with his toothpick.

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With his toothpick.
I mean, it was a good, it was a

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good fight.
It was good, but it was just

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satisfying.
It was so satisfying.

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It was, and at first you
thought.

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As as all fights, do you think
Darrell's going to lose and then

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what he do picked up on how you
smash in the skull with the

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skull?
So first of all, the fact that

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and yes, we starting towards the
end because we had to get that.

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I had to get that out there
because I have been one in Los

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Ange dead for at least the last
two episodes, maybe 3.

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So the fact that he got what was
coming to him was so satisfying.

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And not only that, like you
said, you get killed with a

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skull, not just a skull.
You're in the catacombs.

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First of all, the fact that
y'all going through the

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catacombs shooting and
desecrate?

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Excuse me?
These are the.

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Catacombs, you don't do that.
We don't do that.

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Here we don't.
Do that and not only that, like

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I know that, you know, maybe the
place isn't really haunted, but

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there's a movie I saw couple of
years ago.

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My daughter introduced me to it
and it's called as above, so

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below.
And it's, it's, it's one of

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those horror stories that takes
place in the catacombs.

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And it's, it's kind of sort of
like Blair Witch Project, but

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it's in the catacombs like this.
This girl is going in and she's

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trying to, she's doing like a, A
blog piece about the catacombs

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because supposedly it's haunted.
And she goes through that.

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All sorts of weird shit happens.
Now that's not a movie I'm going

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to watch several times, but it,
it was a good movie.

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So all I can think about was
that when they were going

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through the catacombs and I was
like, where are these ghosts

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now?
Where are these things that like

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come at you and it's it's you
facing your own mistakes and

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that's what brings you down?
I was really looking for that

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for Losang and for Jacinta.
But I was like, OK, yeah, I'm

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just going to desecrate the the
catacombs and just get your ass

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beat in the process.
But OK, we can go with that.

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We can go, but let's go back.
To the beginning was man.

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Hold on, what was this?
Wait.

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Somebody against the wall does
not kill them.

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We'll, we'll, we'll come back to
that.

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We'll come back to that.
I mean, 'cause we said you

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didn't.
Even check to see if she was.

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Dead.
Did you not watch Zombieland?

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I'm sure Zombieland came out
before 2010.

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Double tap, double tap, double
tap that bitch.

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But anyway, we'll come back to
that.

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We'll come back.
Let's go back to the beginning.

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So Carol and Daryl, it's
interesting seeing them in this

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episode because, you know, we
talked about it in the last

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episode of how even though they
had just found each other, they

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were still kind of bickering
with each other and everything.

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I feel like in this episode they
were more on one accord.

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There wasn't a lot of the
pettiness and I think maybe it

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was just because Daryl, I think
in this episode was kind of

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coming to grips with the fact
that Isabel was gone.

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They find Laurent.
So I think he kind of, I won't

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say his spirit lightened a
little bit, but at least he

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didn't have to worry about
whether or not Laurent was safe

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because he did make it back to
the nest.

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Well, not the nest.
The, I don't know what you call

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the original, the little hideout
that they went to at first.

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It's not the Nest, but it's,
it's like, well, you know, yeah,

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it's like a sanctuary.
So they they do make it back

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there, him and Falou and Cadrone
shows up because of course he's

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like, I don't have anywhere else
to go.

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Now here's the question that I
have, because we know he was on

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the run from everything that
happened at the Nest.

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And through the course of the
episode, we see the newly formed

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group between Los Sangs people
and Madam Janae's people who

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decided to stay and follow him
to try to go and and take care

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of Laurent.
So during the course of the

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episode, Carol and Daryl end up
going back to Maison Mayor

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because they're looking for Ash
because when they go back to the

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hangar, Ash is not there.
Apparently he, I guess he left

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to try to go find gas because
they find gas cans of his and

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that's how they know that's
where he went.

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I don't recall Maison Mayer
falling in the last couple of

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episodes.
So this was something that had

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to have happened off screen,
right?

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Because the last time we saw
Maison Mayer was when Carol was

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revealed to be there looking for
Daryl, and then Madam Jenae took

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her with her to go to the nest.
But there wasn't anything, you

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know the.
But you have to realize that

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this is after Janae's death.
So you know soldiers at that

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point, 'cause you have all of
the main, like your head, main

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people went to the nest, so they
never made it back to their

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headquarters.
So once the word has spread that

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old Janae is dead, it's anarchy.
People trying.

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To figure I was just trying to
remember, I was like, that had

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to have happened off screen
because that was a lot of dead

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people at Maison Mayor off.
Screen but that the reason.

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OK, yeah, I mean, I understand
the reason, but I was sitting

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here trying to figure out.
I was like, I don't remember

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this happening on screen because
that would have been like AI

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think that would have been a
major scene because of course

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you're going to have the people
who are still loyal to her or

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loyal to her cause going against
the people who are like, oh,

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yeah, OK, so we never really
agreed with her.

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We're gonna go over here with
this dude.

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But ain't that the ain't that
the group that's technically

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with Sabine?
They're still with her.

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Some of them are.
Yeah, the one, the ones who are

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with Sabine, they are the ones
who are following Low saying

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that.
But.

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The others, whoever may have,
you know, may have been

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following Madam Janay.
Because again, here's the thing

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with Losang.
Most of the people who are

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following him, they don't know
that his intent is to like, like

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they said, they don't know that
his intent is to martyr Laurent.

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They think that, you know,
Laurent is this symbol of the

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future.
The saying is going to find him,

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to protect him and to, you know,
prove that he is supposed to be

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the saving the Messiah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.

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But they don't realize that he's
planning on and, and of course

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we're saying killing him because
we know that there's a very,

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very, very low probability that
a Walker bite is not going to do

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anything to him.
He's going to die.

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He's going to come, maybe he'll
maybe it'll be slower than

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usual, I don't know.
But I don't think most of the

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people, even with low things
group knew what his true intent

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was.
So I seriously doubt if he would

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tell that to Sabine and her
followers.

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He's just basically like, OK,
yes, Laurent is going to be the

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savior of of of us all.
And the problem is they're

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sheep.
They're not asking questions.

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Right at all they're.
Just like, oh, he's going to be

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the savior.
OK, let's go find him.

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Ain't nobody.
Peeped a thing like yeah OK.

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Nobody has asked questions, but
I mean, the people at the

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sanctuary, they know because
Falou told them what was going

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on about Losang kind of turning
on them or what he intended to

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do.
So when Losang does show up

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there to look for Laurent, he is
met with at first, not really

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resistance, but they're like
pretending like, oh, we sent we

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sent Laurent to you at the nest.
If he's missing, we need to go

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help find him.
Is that damn Rubik's Cube?

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That damn cube.
Girl, the damn Rubik's Cube that

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gives him away.
But did you notice when he's

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giving his speech to the
sanctuary and he talks about the

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way the world is and, you know,
our children have known nothing

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but fear.
And Laurent is going to you

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know, I'm I'm paraphrasing.
He's going to fix things.

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He's going to be the savior.
He's the thing that, you know,

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that's going to carry us into
the future.

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You know, he what what is it?
He said something about people

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believe that God is no longer
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world is.
He was like Laurent is proof the

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rock will be proof that God
still exists.

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And for Lou says, and I think
this is same thing Isabel said

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before she died to to Lozan.
He said if you if you need to

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prove, you know, if you need to
prove your face, you've already

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lost it.
And you know, they start

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clapping.
Did you see the way his face

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changed?
It went from bewilderment to I

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was like, Yep, the evil switch
just flipped.

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Like it just actually flipped.
So he he already got that taste

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of evil.
When he stabbed Isabel.

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The same thing happened.
She sliced him and then he was

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like, and they went, went and
stabbed him and and again, it

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was like one of those like, Oh
my God, did I do that?

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And then it was like, yeah, I
didn't do that.

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OK, let's go.
Really.

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Oh, OK.
That's what we're doing.

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But you a man of God.
OK, I got you.

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I was glad he got his skull
crushed, you know, because he

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was getting on my nerves.
When I say the death, this is.

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Not the man that started this
whole thing in the beginning.

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So this old, you know,
nonviolent could what what you

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the one preaching about Daryl
teaching the wrong anything.

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Oh, maybe it's a little too
violent.

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What?
No, but you know what I think

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the problem was?
He didn't want Laurent to learn

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how to defend himself because he
knew the plans he had for

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Laurent.
He wanted Laurent to just be

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docile and accepting of whatever
his fate is.

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But he wasn't going to do that.
That's one of the reasons why I

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think he really drugged him up
because he was like, yeah, no,

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Laurent has been around there a
little bit too, too long.

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He's going to ask questions.
Because if Isabel is asking

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questions and for Lewis asking
questions and Sylvia is asking

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questions, like these are the
people that that that Daryl had

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direct contact with.
These are the people who Daryl

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would consider his friends over
in France.

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Like these are the people who he
has learned to trust and who has

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learned to trust him.
So if he's questioning what

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they're doing, then they'll.
Probably look like so.

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Do we have to do this in this
particular way?

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Is there not another way for
Laurent to save us?

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Is there not another way for him
to be whatever it is we need him

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to be in?
Like Falou said to them at the

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sanctuary when they were talking
about Laurent, he said Laurent

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has always been the symbol of
the future.

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He will still be the symbol of
the future.

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But Lo Sang is trying to make
him a martyr.

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And it's like that's the thing
you see it so clear with with

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Falou.
You saw it with Isabel and

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probably was Sylvie too, if she
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Like it's not that Darrell is
coming over and just

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radicalizing them or whatever
into this new way of thinking.

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It's almost like they were
asleep.

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And now that they have it, it's,
it's always like this too.

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Whenever you have a group or you
have a, a clique or a, a, a

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program or a belief system or
whatever, you're always going to

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believe that.
It's always when an outsider

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comes in and is looking at it
with different eyes, with fresh

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eyes, that sometimes they say
things to make us go, huh, maybe

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that's not the best way for us
to do it.

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And I just think that's all
Daryl was.

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Daryl wasn't trying to say, OK,
y'all can't believe in this kid

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or this that other.
But Daryl was like, you know,

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Daryl has been practical.
Daryl has seen things.

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He has been out in this world
more than these people have,

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'cause these people have been on
rooftops, they've been

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sheltered, they've been growing
food, they've been doing all

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this other stuff, which I'm not
knocking because if you're able

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to do that and survive for 12
years, hats off to you.

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Yeah, but it makes them very
woefully unprepared when the

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real shit starts happening.
Yeah, but I will say this, a

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drone, and I said this a couple
of episodes ago.

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He's becoming one of my new
favorite people, even though I

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know we said we're not gonna
have favorite people 'cause we

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know that they're gonna end up
dying.

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But I.
Don't like him?

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I know.
But I like the fact that he has

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had his eyes open.
And then even when the right

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asked him about, you know, why
did you want to kill Daryl, he

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was like, because he killed my
brother.

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And he starts explaining about
all these people that he tried

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to protect and how they're dead
now.

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And you see him, he's like, you
know, everything that I've done

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up to this point, Like, what has
it been for?

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And you start to see that
change.

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And he, he does ask Laurent for
forgiveness.

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And Laurent was like, I already
forgave you.

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Yeah, 'cause if he didn't, you
would've been dead as soon as

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you came through that door.
Cause Falou and everybody else

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was like.
What you doing ready?

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They, they was Laurent saved
him.

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He was like, yeah, he saved our
lives.

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He saved all of us.
He, he, they, the soldiers had

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us.
They were about to kill us.

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And he, he let us go.
He killed them and let us go.

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They was flu was red.
What what, what what the fuck

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are you doing here?
And you know, you're gonna talk

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about all these places to keep
him, say everybody know where

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everybody.
And and not only that, even in

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the course of this episode, you
keep taking him back to and and

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which is I guess understandable
because Darrell don't know any

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other places.
Isabel is not with him, but you

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literally took him back to where
they were looking for him.

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And then you took him back to
the Demi Mon when Lozanne, you

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know, infiltrated the Sanctuary.
Yeah.

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How did you expect them not to
come looking for him there?

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But again, Daryl really didn't
have any other.

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Like, what was he going to do,
take him back to Isabel's

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apartment?
I mean, that probably could have

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worked.
Yeah.

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But it really wouldn't have
helped them in a long time.

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Yeah.
I mean, he could have gone back,

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maybe gotten some of her drugs.
Yeah, the amount of he's

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someplace safe, he in one or two
places that why I said not

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giggle my ass while he's
somewhere insane and.

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I'm going to put I'm look, I'm
going to put on my I told you so

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hat even though Michelle is not
here, Did I not tell you that

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Marie or Anne or whatever her
name is?

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Did I not tell you she was going
to be in charge of the club?

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Did I not say that?
I said she was going to take

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over.
She was going to be the one

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running things once Quinn was
there.

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But the interesting thing with
her is so we got to see a little

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bit of how Quinn runs the club
while, you know, while he was

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alive.
And then you see a little bit of

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how she runs it.
And I think, I think the

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interesting thing about it is
even though Quinn turned out, I

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won't even say he was a bad guy,
he just had like shady

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intentions.
But when it came to the people

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in his club, he didn't treat
them with any disrespect or he

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didn't treat them like minions
or peons.

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She on the other hand, she's
very nasty to them.

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She's very much like, I was
like, oh, is this what we doing?

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Like when she was talking to,
what's his name, Tito, and she

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told him to put the gas, give
Darryl the 50, what was it, 50

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gallons of gas he needed?
And Tito was like, I don't think

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we have enough gas ethanol to be
given away from free for free,

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she said.
That sounds to me like you just

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tried to have an opinion.
Did I ask you?

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And then she was like quickly
hurry faster.

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When he was walking away, he was
looking at the other dude like

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this bitch.
I was like, she's going to have,

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she's going to have some issues
in a minute.

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Because you can't look, you
can't go from the bottom to the

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top and then treat the other
people who were at the bottom

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with you like shit.
Yeah, they gonna hate your ass.

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Because I'm sure maybe some of
them did when when Quinn was

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alive and she was the
girlfriend, because sometimes

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they do that.
But I'm pretty sure most of them

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didn't treat her that way
because she was the boss's

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girlfriend, right?
So for you to turn around and

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treat these people like that,
ma'am, like the, like the guy

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with the mask and the dog collar
who was one of I guess he was

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one of Quinn's people who didn't
want to acquiesce to her being

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the the leader.
And she was like, oh, I got

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something for your ass.
Not not.

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You got a Madam who lead you
around on the chain.

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But the Madam didn't even look
like she was enjoying that

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because when Marie said
something nasty to him, she was

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looking at her like like how
dare you.

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I don't know if maybe that was
because Marie was talking like

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that to her sub or what, but she
wasn't even feeling Marie.

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Going on over there.
Huh, I said.

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They got tiki shit going on over
there.

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Well, I mean, they what?
Darrell and Carol walked in and

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the ladies are sitting there
like, you want to come with me?

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Oh, you don't want?
OK, what about you?

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And Carol's just sitting there
like so fuck.

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Because you got to think if she.
When you see she trying to steal

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her damn knife.
Carol was like bitch, I will cut

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you.
I.

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Said no.
She was looking at her like

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bitch.
I will cut.

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You with this same knife, get
away from me.

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Get away from me.
But you know, she had to be in

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culture shock because one,
you're in the middle of a zombie

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apocalypse 12 years into it and
you walk in and it's like

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nothing you've ever seen before.
Because you can bet when Carol

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was married to Ed, she would
have never gone into a place

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like that.
He probably wouldn't be even

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allowed her to go to a regular
club.

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So you know, she's sitting there
looking like.

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Damn hell.
What?

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But this is the place you go to,
to get to get your stuff done

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and to find out your
information.

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And I would say this, I really
thought when Los Angeles showed

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up, I thought Marie was going to
give them up because Darrell is

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coming in there and he's asking
for stuff.

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But he's not really trading.
He's not.

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He doesn't have anything to
give.

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No 'cause he can ask.
No, 'cause they have a

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conversation.
And I thought it was more so

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because he felt bad about, like
in the beginning, how she was

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with Laurent.
For me, it was like I thought it

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was more along the lines of
trying to make amends for the

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way she was in the beginning.
Yeah, and I and I get that.

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But I mean, even even with that,
like she saved them, she let

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them go.
So I guess I'm looking at it as

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she really didn't have anything
to make up for because she

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allowed them to escape and she
didn't tell Quinn.

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No, remember at the end when
they got when they were in the

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dungeon or whatever it was.
Remember, the Maria is the one

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who.
Oh, that's right.

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You're right.
You're right.

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I completely forgot about that.
Yep.

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Yeah.
So, yeah, OK.

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I feel like she was trying to
make up for that, yes, that when

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instead of dying, they got
captured, Darrell got put in the

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pit and you know, all of these
things.

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Yes, you're right.
You are so.

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Right, because she was in her
feelings because Isabelle showed

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up.
So I felt like that was like her

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trying to make up for that
bullshit.

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Right.
And then you saw she she felt

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kind of bad when she found out
Isabelle was dead.

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Yeah, 'cause she was trying to
be a little snarky with Cara on

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Who is this?
I'm to your other little friend.

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But she did.
She was like.

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Yeah, yeah, 'cause why she was
jealous of Isabel.

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Oh, actually she was jealous of
her so.

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Wouldn't you be if you were with
your man and his his

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ex-girlfriend from 12 years ago
who left him out in the middle

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of the street during the
beginning of the zombie

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apocalypse, showed up and all of
a sudden he was like, hey girl,

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how you doing?
Excuse me?

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You ain't mad.
I'm not you not mad.

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She loves you.
He was mad.

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And showed up and showed up with
your child.

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That she ain't know nothing
about.

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Right.
So yeah, you're right.

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I complete.
I bet that slipped my mind that

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she was the reason they got
caught.

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But yeah, I I think it's
interesting, too, and I'm glad

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that she said this because you
know how it was.

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I was like, so a plane just
shows up out of nowhere and

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ain't nobody come looking.
Well, yes, they did 'cause she

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sent somebody to go look, but we
forgot Ash is ready, 'cause when

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Carol got ready to walk back in
there and she saw the tripwire

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and that thing came swinging, I
saw he's been taking he he's

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been taking lessons from Morgan.
OK, That's just like it was in

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Morgan's apartment.
Yes.

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But Ash there, there was what, 2
walkers?

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And then there was an actual
person who was still alive.

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He left that dude in the trap.
I was like, oh, that's got to be

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painful.
That was like, you know me.

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Yeah, but he's the one that
tells them that, you know, Ash

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was like he, he left because
again, I, I don't know how many

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days it's been.
I don't think he's been a full 2

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weeks, but probably when people
started coming and looking for

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Ash, he probably was like, OK,
you know what, let me go find

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his gas because he won't be able
to actually make it if he

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doesn't have the supplies.
And if people are coming to look

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for him, he's got a limited
window, Barry, limited window.

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But somehow he found his way to
Mazon Mayor.

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He was running from the he was
running from the walkers, got

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himself into a car and try to
your face.

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He was pushing himself to get
out, but where was he going?

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I don't think he was pushing
himself to get out.

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I think he was trying to push
the Walker off the car.

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But what happened was another
Walker bumped into that Walker.

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So when the car door came back,
it came back with more force and

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he ends up knocking himself out.
I was like, you know what?

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But it's interesting because if
they were back home, most of

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those walkers would have crashed
through that window by now.

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Ash was in there for a good
little while, so I don't know

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how.
About this because normally when

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they do that, after a while
after there's nothing, they move

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on.
Remember when goddamn glam was

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under the goddamn trash can and
all the walkers was in that

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corner?
But eventually.

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But you know what?
But but they had a meal sitting

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right next to him too, so they
they were a little distracted.

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But even after that and after
that they, they idled for a

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little bit and you know, they
moved on 'cause if Ash was in

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there, they say he was in there
for two days.

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The marker's still trying to get
you from 2 days.

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Yeah, but you know what?
They probably could tell he was

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alive because if he knocked
himself out, OK, he might be out

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for a while.
Then once he comes too, he's

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probably looking up, looking
around, trying to figure out

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what's going on.
They realize there's movement.

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But by the time they got to the
car, he was still kind of out of

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it.
He wasn't sitting there waiting

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like, oh, you guys can't.
No, no, no, that's what I'm

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saying.
He was probably in and out, in

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and out.
Because also if you think about

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it, we don't know how long he
had been out in the streets

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before he got to Maison Mayor
and got in the car.

445
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,760
We don't know if he had supplies
with him because he didn't have

446
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,160
a bag when he got in in the car.
He said he was in the car for

447
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,200
two days.
Now you in the car for two days.

448
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,240
You don't have any food, you
don't have anything to drink.

449
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,480
You don't knock yourself in the
head.

450
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,440
So he had to have been in and
out for the most part, because

451
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,440
also, let's be honest, you in a
car for two days, you ain't went

452
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,040
to the bathroom.
You ain't nothing.

453
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,880
You had to have been dried out
like dehydrated, no food,

454
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,480
nothing on your stomach, like
there was nothing for your body

455
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,600
to produce.
I'm just saying I'm being

456
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,280
realistic.
I'm being realistic.

457
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,280
You know, most people, most
people don't think about that

458
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,880
stuff when they're watching
zombie apocalypse shows.

459
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,120
But you gotta wonder, like,
there, there's certain, yeah,

460
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,200
there's certain bodily functions
that we have to take care of.

461
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,760
If you're stuck in a car for two
days, you either took care of

462
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,280
those functions and Daryl and
Carol just didn't say nothing

463
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,880
when they got in the car or
there was nothing in your

464
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:23,080
system.
So, yeah, but when I say I was

465
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,840
tripping because I was like, you
hit yourself that hard that you

466
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,120
just knocked out.
But I mean, even even if he was

467
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,640
up and awake and alert, what is
he gonna do?

468
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,880
He's not used to fighting a
horde like that.

469
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,360
You saw Darrell and Carol once
they came in and realized that

470
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,400
someone was in the car, they had
their plan.

471
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,480
This is what I was saying at the
beginning of the episode.

472
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,080
They were In Sync again.
They were like, oh, we we got

473
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,920
this.
Let's go see what's in this car,

474
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,080
OK?
I got these people.

475
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,760
You got those Bam bam bam bam
bam.

476
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,920
They make their way in the car.
The moment Daryl says something,

477
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800
Ash is looking at him like who
the fuck is this?

478
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,920
This ain't Sophia, but this is
the man that just saved your

479
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:12,160
life because they find some of
the serum darts in the car, girl

480
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,960
like OK, so he was like, does
the car.

481
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,160
Work.
I don't know how this.

482
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,400
Works.
Does the car work?

483
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,080
Yes.
The battery comes on, but it the

484
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,000
engine won't turn over.
OK, we just need to roll down or

485
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,600
roll up the window because there
just happened to be a sunroof in

486
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,880
the car.
When they start opening that

487
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,520
sunroof, I was like yeah I do
realize some of these walkers

488
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,760
can climb, right?
But I was like OK whatever.

489
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:42,480
Derek when he comes out of there
and he shoots 2 of the walkers

490
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,480
with the serum, I was like what
the fuck is he about to do?

491
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,520
I knew what he was doing because
I was because remember from the

492
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,920
battle when they shot 1 he don't
be line for the other ones.

493
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,280
But I was not, I was not
expecting because the way that

494
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,120
it looks from inside the car,
because you start, you start

495
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,320
hearing the, the heads pop or
whatever and you start seeing

496
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,360
the blood.
It was almost like a chain

497
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,400
reaction.
And I was like, what did he do?

498
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,520
Like it didn't seem like the two
walkers were coming and

499
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:26,160
attacking the walkers like that.
It just seemed like oh boom,

500
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,000
boom, boom, boom, boom.
Like OK, So what is this a soon

501
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,240
as he did it.
That's what I said, I said.

502
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:38,440
Oh, he, he, he know that once
they have that serum, they're

503
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,240
attacking something.
They gonna get something 'cause

504
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,120
remember when the other one
attacked them?

505
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,680
Darryl was standing still.
The other Walker was moving, so

506
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,480
he was like, Oh yeah, let me get
this.

507
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,880
And he wouldn't attack the other
Walker.

508
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,840
Yeah.
What I didn't get, cause at that

509
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,160
point y'all sitting in the car,
they looking around here, why

510
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,360
did things come through that
wonder?

511
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,200
I said oh y'all knew something
was in there?

512
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,280
Huh.
Again, because they end up

513
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,720
looking and they were jerking,
so the car was probably moving a

514
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,120
little bit.
But those walkers probably also

515
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,680
have, they may have an enhanced
sense of smell because, you

516
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,120
know, they smell blood and ash.
He still had an open cut on his

517
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,960
head.
They could have smelled that or

518
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,440
they could have just been like,
oh, we smell body odor.

519
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,600
We smell sweat.
We smell, you know, maybe not

520
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,720
the pee, but I mean you got 2
fresh bodies in here in addition

521
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,160
to the one that's been sitting
there.

522
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,040
So you got lots of stuff that
could have been drawing those

523
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160
two walkers.
But when that one got in the

524
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,960
car, I was like, again, y'all
playing too much, y'all making

525
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,560
things a little too close, y'all
making a little but you.

526
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,720
Did what I did enjoy was that
nice panorama they did in the

527
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,880
car.
So oh that's so dope.

528
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,480
I mean your space is this, this
is big but we bought to get

529
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,320
y'all 360 right quick.
Right, exactly.

530
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,440
I like that.
So they they do get Ash out,

531
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,760
they do make their way back to
the plane.

532
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,080
And this is when they're Daryl
and Carol have a conversation.

533
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,920
They're like, OK, so we need
gas.

534
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,240
And this is what we need to do.
Now, in the midst of all of

535
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,840
this, once when Daryl and Carol
were on their way to find Ash in

536
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,720
the first place, Carol had to
tell him, OK, so yeah, I kind of

537
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,720
had to lie to him to get him
here.

538
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,120
And then later on in the
episode, Darrell was like, OK,

539
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,800
So what was the lie that you
told him?

540
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,160
Oh, I kind of told him I was
looking for my daughter.

541
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,280
And Darrell was like.
So.

542
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,440
Forbid Where did that come from?
Yeah.

543
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,440
And I, I kind of felt bad for
her when she was feeling bad

544
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,040
about it because again, Ash
almost died.

545
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,280
He could've died if they had not
gotten to him, he would've died.

546
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,000
She would've been upset.
She would've felt guilty.

547
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,680
Just like 'cause you know her
and Darrell, they carry guilt

548
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,640
trips like nobody else.
Sarah.

549
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:24,400
But also she could.
Like she knows she could've just

550
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,760
told him the truth from the
beginning.

551
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,480
He probably wouldn't have
brought her, but he probably

552
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,320
would have.
You never know, because just

553
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,080
like he told her before she
confessed to him about lying, he

554
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,040
was like, you know why you were
gone for those days.

555
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,360
I was really thinking that this
helped me, you know, it helped

556
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,280
me get over my my guilt about my
son.

557
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,080
It helped me get out of the
house.

558
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,160
He was like, yeah, this, this
real, this trip really helped

559
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:51,840
me.
Thank you.

560
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,680
And she was feeling so bad.
I'm so sorry.

561
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,760
Sorry for what?
Sorry about everything I said,

562
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,440
Carol.
This is the point where I would

563
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,520
have been like, OK, he just said
that this helped him.

564
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,280
You don't need to tell him
anything else.

565
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,880
You don't need to be honest with
him, 'cause I mean, yeah, at

566
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,960
this point.
But I get what she didn't,

567
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,080
though.
I do too.

568
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,920
But this is one of the times
where I'm like, you know what?

569
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,760
Little white lies not gonna
hurt.

570
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:21,840
It's not gonna hurt because you
get him mad.

571
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,719
He might be like, you know what?
Fuck you and your friend.

572
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,639
I'm getting in my plane, I'm
taking off.

573
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:31,199
Now granted, he's not going to
go anywhere far 'cause he

574
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:34,840
doesn't have that much gas and
you don't want to stop back in

575
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,880
Greenland.
Although I will say this, he

576
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,000
could go back to Greenland.
If they have fuel there, he can

577
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,440
use the fuel because who's going
to stop him?

578
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,120
Nobody.
They're both dead except, well,

579
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,840
Hannah.
Hannah's Walker's probably

580
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,960
walking around there 'cause she
got, you know, he put the, the

581
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,160
flare in her neck.
Her brain wasn't damaged, so

582
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,480
she's probably walking around
there.

583
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,000
But what's she going to do,
right?

584
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,120
Yeah, I I understand her talent
and I'm kind of glad she did

585
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,160
because I think one of the
things I like seeing in this

586
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,280
episode, you do see a little bit
of an evolution with Carol.

587
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,560
Because again, we're so used to
the group when they're first

588
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,720
meeting people, them being very
suspicious, not really wanting

589
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:34,320
to get to know people or getting
to know people to use them.

590
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,120
And then, you know, something
happens just like, OK, whatever.

591
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,800
But you don't see that with her
because even when Daryl is

592
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,800
asking him her about him, she
he's like, so, So what, You like

593
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,680
him?
She was like, yeah, you got a

594
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,160
crush on him or something like
that.

595
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,280
And she was like, no, but I do
like him.

596
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,240
He's nice, you know, So I was
like, oh, OK, Carol's making

597
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,400
friends.
That's not within the group,

598
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,360
which is cool because you got to
have friends, especially when

599
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,800
you're far away from home, you
got to have people that's going

600
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,360
to help you out.
And you can't do that if you're

601
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,000
being a bitch, and you can't do
that if you're lying all the

602
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,720
time.
Like I think she's walking that

603
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:20,240
very tight line.
I mean, but at some point, in

604
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:23,440
the nicest way, at some point
that should get old and you get

605
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,440
tired of doing it, you know what
I mean?

606
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:31,480
And I we, you know, we've seen
breaks with Karen before, you

607
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,600
know, So this time, you know,
she didn't have to leave and go

608
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,320
nowhere.
You know, she's coming to terms

609
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,040
with things herself.
But remember when she left

610
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,200
Alexandria and ended up in
Kingdom?

611
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,200
So you know, Carol has her
moments where she's just down

612
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,160
right ruthless and then her
conscience kicks in.

613
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,360
Yeah, now I can't do it.
Yeah.

614
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,120
But I think at this point, it
looks like she's probably come

615
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,880
to terms with that part of, of
of everything.

616
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Also a lot of it has to do with
her coming to terms with

617
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,880
Sophia's death.
Like it it, it hasn't been even

618
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,760
in the main show.
It was dealt with a little bit,

619
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,720
but you know, there's long term
effects of something like that.

620
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:23,800
And her PTSD and all of this
other stuff is now coming

621
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,600
basically to a head because
she's having so many issues with

622
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,840
Barnes and seeing little kids.
And because like even this one,

623
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,800
when she was in the in there,
you know, the new little

624
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,840
sanctuary, there was a kid
standing at the garden.

625
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:44,040
She saw Sophia.
So it's like she is she has to

626
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,600
resolve all of the issues,
including the lies about Sophia

627
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,360
so that she can basically let
that piece of it kind of go.

628
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,320
You know, she still has work to
do, but it's these little things

629
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:02,280
that are going to be like, OK,
yeah, let me, you know, resolve

630
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,800
everything that I have to
resolve with my daughter and her

631
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,160
memory and all of this so I can
move the fuck on.

632
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:12,080
Yeah, and I thought, really?
Really.

633
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,040
Move on.
Yeah, so I can get.

634
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:19,160
Past it anyway.
Yeah, and I think I heard trying

635
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,920
to think.
I think I may have heard someone

636
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,120
talk about or I saw it in an
article where they were talking

637
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,400
about one of the reasons why it
may also be hidden.

638
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,280
Carol is because even though,
you know, she made-up this story

639
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,960
to tell Ash about her daughter
being stuck in France and she's

640
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,720
been over there for 12 years or
whatever.

641
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,560
And one of the things that it
may be doing is triggering

642
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,640
Carol.
Because in order for her to make

643
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,560
up that lie, she's having to
imagine her daughter grown.

644
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,240
And this is something that she,
of course, hasn't experienced

645
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:56,000
because, again, Sophia was so
young when she died.

646
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,560
And maybe that's just the thing
that's making her kind of, you

647
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:06,440
know, wig out about it because
she's just like, I didn't get to

648
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,720
experience this.
And now she's like, she's

649
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:12,920
reliving everything over and
over again, You know, just like

650
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,800
we were talking about Daryl
feeling guilty about Isabelle

651
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,200
and what happened to her.
And she feels like he let

652
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,160
Laurent down and, you know.
Oh, yeah.

653
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,880
Well, you know, I'm.
Laurent doesn't want to come

654
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,760
back to America because I'm
here.

655
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,160
She's not.
She could be angry, that sort of

656
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,240
thing.
Carol could be feeling the same

657
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:35,440
way, too.
Because you have to think that

658
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,400
even though we never really,
again, it was never really

659
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,600
explored, but you have to think
that Carol on some level feels a

660
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:48,560
little guilt about Sophia's
death, even though it it really

661
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,520
wasn't her fault.
You know, if you think about the

662
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,640
circumstances that led to
Sophia's death, first of all,

663
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,560
they're in the middle of the
street around all these

664
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,160
abandoned cars, and you get a
herd come through.

665
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,760
This is the first time they
really had to deal with a herd

666
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:07,280
in that sense, aside from when
they were in the campsite.

667
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,120
You're separated from your
daughter.

668
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,560
She's under a car.
You're under a car.

669
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,960
The whole reason Sofia bolted
was again, one of these quote UN

670
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,360
quote variant walkers got down
on the ground and tried to grab

671
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,080
her from up under the car.
Same thing they did to LeBron.

672
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,760
She takes off, Rick takes off
after her and he's trying to

673
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,040
keep her safe by luring the
walkers away.

674
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,960
And I, we never know what
happened with Sophia.

675
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,960
We don't know if she just
decided to go on her own.

676
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:45,200
We don't know if something came
after her and it scared her.

677
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:47,560
We we don't know what happened
to her.

678
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:54,520
So you got to think Carol does
feel guilt about that.

679
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,480
And then again, we never really
deal with that.

680
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,600
You know that there's a small
little argument between her and

681
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Rick where she kind of lashes
out at Rick for leaving her, for

682
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,760
leaving Sophia.
But other than that, again, I

683
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,240
don't think she's ever really
properly dealt with.

684
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:17,720
Because because again, y'all
been from here to here to here

685
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,640
and y'all, we're dealing with
this threat, this threat, trying

686
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,920
to find food, trying to find a
place to stay, being out on the

687
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,280
road.
When, when would she have had

688
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,160
time to properly mourn her?
Even when they were in the

689
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,320
prison?
You're surrounded by all these

690
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,440
people.
You don't really want to grieve

691
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,560
like that in front of all these
people, especially the newer

692
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,840
people, the people that you just
met, whatever you're trying to

693
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,640
set an example for the other
younger people to say, hey, I'm

694
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,040
going to teach you how to
protect yourself so that you

695
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,000
don't get killed.
And all the while, in her mind,

696
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,240
she's thinking about her
daughter.

697
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,920
But again, she still doesn't
have a chance to deal with it.

698
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:06,520
So I do like to see that that we
see her kind of sort of, I

699
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,240
don't, I don't even want to say
she's dealing with it now, but

700
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,960
it's there in the forefront and
she knows that it's there.

701
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,520
Even when she's talking to
Darren.

702
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,680
She was like, I don't even know
why I brought Sophia up, but it

703
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,840
was just, it was just the one
thing.

704
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,680
And then, you know, you think
about Lizzie and you think about

705
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,960
Henry and you know, this guy had
a kid that he lost and it's just

706
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,240
all of these things like now
it's right there in her face.

707
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,400
So she's got to confront it.
And then you have this other

708
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,560
child, Laurent, that Daryl is
now trying to save.

709
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,560
And you've seen this before.
You've seen Daryl try to try to

710
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,280
save a child before.
So you know how he's going to

711
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,160
react in this situation.
And so you got to deal with that

712
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,880
too, you know, because, you
know, they do find the right.

713
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,960
This is a child he was looking
for and has actually been able

714
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,960
to save so far.
We don't know what's going to

715
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,840
happen after that, but it's just
it's a lot.

716
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,960
It's a lot that they both have
to deal with.

717
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,240
Yeah, they will.
They got no choice.

718
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,120
None.
I like how dad was like.

719
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,400
So would you tell this guy I was
your brother?

720
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,320
She shouldn't.
He would have believed it.

721
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,400
He was like.
No, not that I was like OK, here

722
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,440
y'all go pushing that little,
pushing that little envelope

723
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,080
again, but.
Nobody believes that they want

724
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,960
to be with each other on that
level.

725
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,960
No, nobody.
Nobody people do.

726
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,680
But we, we don't.
Not we people.

727
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,280
I just, I just don't see it, but
it's it's.

728
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,400
OK at all.
Like even when they found each

729
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,360
other that hug was like Oh my
God my best friend is here.

730
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,160
That didn't give me all the love
of my life came to save me.

731
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,560
I told you it was the exact same
hug as it was outside of

732
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,160
Terminus.
Yeah, facially special

733
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,960
everything.
Yes, nothing.

734
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,400
Nothing in me sees them
romantical.

735
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,600
No.
Nowhere.

736
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,520
No stop.
Stop trying maybe?

737
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:25,200
Go, right, OK, let's talk about
this fight, 'cause when I say

738
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:34,920
when Marie hit them, and I'm
talking about Daryl and Codrone

739
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:40,080
and Laurent because Losang shows
up at the Demi Mon, first of

740
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,640
all.
Well, saying what you know about

741
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,560
the Demi Mon you've been at,
you've been at Mont Saint

742
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,880
Michelle forever.
None of these places are secret.

743
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,080
None.
They may as well have a sign

744
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,880
with like the Flash and Beetle
with you sign, they may as well

745
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,160
have a sign out front.
None of your places are secret.

746
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,960
Right.
At this point, and remember

747
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,600
Janae walked up in there like
don't nobody care.

748
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,120
But see, Janae knew about it
because she had an agreement

749
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,360
with Quinn.
True.

750
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,920
She was trading stuff with him,
trading information, trading

751
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,880
secrets, trading art, all this
other stuff.

752
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,640
Because where would where would
he have gotten the art?

753
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,320
He would have gotten the art
from her because we found out

754
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,320
that she used to work for the
Louvre, so she had all the good

755
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,600
stuff.
True.

756
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,800
True Lo sang being there is a
little more weird because 1 he

757
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:43,520
is a more religious figure 2.
We never really get indication

758
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,680
that he like we know that he
traveled to the Abbey What did

759
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,720
he say?
He visited one time to to check

760
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:56,440
out La Ron and to test La Ron,
which how do you do that?

761
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,760
But I mean, what kind of test is
there for?

762
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,920
Oh yes, once he gets of age,
he'll be viable enough for us to

763
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,600
let a a Walker bite him.
And but like, how do you

764
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,600
determine that?
Hopefully he.

765
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,480
Won't die, huh?
Because he and hopefully he

766
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,840
won't die 'cause he the one.
Right.

767
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:21,360
But when they go into the
catacombs and they get ready to

768
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,080
fight and they start, you know,
splitting up because Darrell and

769
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,600
Quadrone.
Well, OK, first of all, Darrell

770
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,040
was like, let's split up.
You really gonna split up from

771
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,720
the child?
You gonna split up from the

772
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:38,600
child?
When he stuck him in that, he

773
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,560
stuck him in that little tomb.
Did you see that?

774
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,440
The name on the tomb said
Laurent as well, I think.

775
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:48,640
Oh, I think you said Laurent or
Lawrence or something like that.

776
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,600
So I was like, oh, OK, you just
go.

777
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,440
You just go make it easy for
them to find them.

778
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,600
You go put the neon sign out and
say, hey, he's right here.

779
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,040
Look at her but.
Luckily, they didn't.

780
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,120
They didn't pay attention to it.
They walked right past Laurent

781
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,120
and you have these fights.
So going back to what you were

782
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,760
saying earlier, Daryl ends up
fighting Los Sang, Cordrone ends

783
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:21,840
up fighting Jacinta.
Cordrone should have double

784
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:29,800
tapped because though the the I
can't even think of the word,

785
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:36,560
the fervor with which Jacinta is
on Los Sangs coattails.

786
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,480
Just like I think she's even
more fanatical than he is

787
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,480
because again, she's been the
one that's been kind of pushing

788
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,840
him this whole time.
Hey, yes, we need to do this.

789
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,520
Yes, you need to keep on.
I was trying.

790
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,320
To kill Darrell.
Off So yeah, 'cause John, when

791
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,840
he threw her into that wall, I
knew for sure I was like, OK,

792
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,920
he's going to kill her.
You have one job.

793
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,200
One job, one no.
It's not taking these jobs

794
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,280
seriously enough.
Y'all need to kill these folks.

795
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,560
And I don't know if he has the
same hiccup that I think Darrell

796
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,320
has.
I don't know if it's just, oh,

797
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,240
she's a woman.
I'm not.

798
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,040
That woman was kicking your ass,
beating.

799
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:32,080
You need to kill her because
other than that, she's gonna

800
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,840
come back stronger.
And you see at the end, you saw

801
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,040
her hand move a little bit and
you heard her.

802
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,880
I was like, oh, she's not a
Walker, she's alive.

803
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,480
Like you didn't throw her hard
enough at all.

804
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,680
But also her sister is a bit
solid get.

805
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,360
Away what?
What's that?

806
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,600
She she a bit solid though,
'cause 'cause when I say she was

807
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:01,440
tried trading those blows with
him, I was like, oh, OK, yeah,

808
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,880
she's like, I I don't know if
she was ever military, but yeah,

809
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,760
she is.
She is trading blows with him

810
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,880
and she is holding her own.
He should have killed them.

811
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,840
But she you, she had some point,
had to have been a fighter.

812
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,480
But for everybody who run around
them don't want to run violent,

813
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,400
you also fight us.
Y'all gonna defend yourself?

814
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,880
I.
Told you the reason they don't

815
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,440
want him being violent or
learning to defend himself was

816
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,960
because they didn't want him
putting up a fight when they got

817
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,320
ready to feed him to the
walkers.

818
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,560
What I'm just saying.
I don't know.

819
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:53,960
I know the low sang and Daryl so
I will say this.

820
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,560
If Daryl had his crossbow, that
would have been short work.

821
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Yeah, absolutely.
But Daryl without a weapon or

822
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,160
without his weapons of choice,
because I think he still had his

823
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,160
morning star.
But when you got a toothpick,

824
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,440
you got a little bit further
reach than the morning star that

825
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:21,000
both staff because Daryl, I will
say this too, and I I think

826
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,000
we've talked about this on the
main show.

827
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,120
Daryl gets his ass beat a lot.
For somebody to be as tough, he

828
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,240
gets his ass beat a lot.
He'd be irritating my damn soul.

829
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:36,080
Like Sir, get a licky and like.
Right.

830
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,880
And I was really scared that
during the course of that fight,

831
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,960
because Los Angeles whooping his
ass so bad, they showed Laurent

832
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,920
still hiding.
I said if this boy, I said if he

833
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,000
comes out of this thing and
tries to go help.

834
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,600
I really was scared.
I was like, oh, he.

835
00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:55,480
Ain't he Can't sit the fuck
down.

836
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,280
OK, but that's what was scaring
me because and and I know we

837
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,240
talked about this in the last
episode and and Michelle was

838
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:03,960
like, they're not going to kill
La Ron.

839
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,520
They're not going to kill the
child.

840
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,560
It wouldn't be any point.
I was scared of it this episode

841
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,640
because when they showed La Ron
still hiding and then they

842
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,560
showed Lo Sang and Daryl
fighting and Daryl was on the

843
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,280
ground.
I thought it was about to be one

844
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,880
of those things where Laurent
comes up behind those saying he

845
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,640
tries to do something, those
saying moves with the bow,

846
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,680
accidentally stabs him.
And I I really thought that's

847
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,160
how this was about to go down.
And so I'm sitting here watching

848
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,520
the show like this, like
Laurent, don't you move.

849
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,280
Laurent, don't you move.
Laurent, don't you move.

850
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,840
But.
If you do move, you need a

851
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,560
whooping.
Thankfully, he didn't need a

852
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,120
whooping in this episode because
he stayed right there and

853
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,520
sneaked.
Back against the wall when he

854
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,400
saw the lights coming.
You better be smart.

855
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,800
Because I really thought they
were going to find him.

856
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,880
I did too.
Especially because they had the

857
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,080
flashlights.
Because here's my thing.

858
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,840
And again, apparently don't.
Look good though, because.

859
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,280
That's what I say.
We're going to talk about these

860
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:16,120
dumb ass guards again because if
you're walking in a crit in the

861
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:23,080
catacombs and you see a a crypt
with a partial door, like the

862
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,720
door wasn't even on the bottom
part so there is a space there.

863
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,960
What dummy?
Why?

864
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,120
Wouldn't you Not gonna look.
Yes, one of these like you.

865
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:39,720
Literally did this.
Put the flashlight over the

866
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:45,560
opening but you don't look.
I was like PSP part so dumb.

867
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:48,920
He wouldn't stash him.
That would.

868
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:51,240
That would have been my thought.
He ain't gonna stash him

869
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:53,880
nowhere.
Let me follow the footprints.

870
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,440
That would have been my thought.
But that too.

871
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,200
That too.
Like, come on, people.

872
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,160
I, I what?
What?

873
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,200
Yes.
We're gonna are we gonna have

874
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:15,480
conversations about dumb guards
and dumb security for for the

875
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,880
rest of the spin off series.
If they come out with five more

876
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,320
spin off series, there's going
to be dumb guards and dumb

877
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,480
soldiers in each one of them.
Yes, I just.

878
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:32,720
Rewound it back and the
tombstone says Legis Laurent.

879
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:38,240
So duh.
Like duh, like I said, right?

880
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:43,040
A big different hashing sign
look in here.

881
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:48,800
So with someone hiding in here
like the the boy's name is

882
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:54,760
literally on the tune that's
open because the the the door,

883
00:53:54,760 --> 00:54:00,080
the covering is parked.
One little 1 little plane. 1

884
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,320
little plane.
Like something didn't catch in

885
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,840
your peripheral that oh, that's
an open space.

886
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,800
Oh, look, there's footprints
here.

887
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,280
Oh look, there's two pairs of
footprints, one went this way,

888
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:19,080
one with that, like interesting.
But you know what if y'all too

889
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,520
dumb to look, we are the only
ones who think logically.

890
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,040
And if y'all are too dumb to
think then y'all deserved

891
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,120
exactly what y'all got cause
control took y'all ass out

892
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,040
quick.
Girl didn't.

893
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:39,760
He like OK, and he only had
Daryl only had loose sang.

894
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,280
I guess loose sang was like I
don't need no backup I got.

895
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,440
This he thought he didn't need
no backup.

896
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,480
But I'm so glad when I say this.
I'm so glad Daryl didn't

897
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,000
hesitate with this one because
as soon as loose Sang was on the

898
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,720
ground, he picked up that score
and bashed me.

899
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:56,440
He was like he going to make
sure that low Sang don't get his

900
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,200
ass up.
He was like I'm tired of running

901
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,280
from y'all motherfuckers.
I've been running ever since I

902
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,040
set foot in France.
I'm tired, let me kill you and

903
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,880
be done with it because now
Janae is dead.

904
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,800
Los Angeles dead.
Who is there that's left?

905
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,200
Of course Jacinta, because her
drone didn't double tap.

906
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,000
And why wouldn't?
He Why?

907
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,960
Just why?
I mean, it's, it's possible he

908
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,120
may not.
Well, now I was gonna say it's

909
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,920
possible he didn't have the
strength to throw her into the

910
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,000
wall that hard enough to kill
her.

911
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,520
But you got all the skulls.
I mean, one of the guards, one

912
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,280
of the guards shot up and and
all these skulls started falling

913
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,840
like you got.
Weapons I mean you could have

914
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:48,160
kicked them, nudge them with
your foot like something to make

915
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,680
sure she was dead.
Like not even saying you had to

916
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,440
stomp with the devil.
Hell, nudge them with your foot,

917
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,520
see if she move a little.
Bit no.

918
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,080
At this point you need to stop
her.

919
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,160
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.

920
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,720
I know, I mean, I mean, in real
life I probably wouldn't be

921
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:09,240
saying that because, you know,
that's just kind of but but in

922
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:14,200
in this you coming after this
child and you trying to kill

923
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,880
him, you need to be dead, like
dead, dead that trick.

924
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:23,920
Like what's that trick?
Like what the what the ass

925
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,320
right?
Like this is the one time you're

926
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:31,680
allowed get them legs in.
When somebody is trying to.

927
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,160
Kill you.
You kill them first.

928
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,120
It's it.
It's OK, especially in this type

929
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,400
of world, because you know,
absolutely don't come back.

930
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,560
No one's going to look at you
like you killed her.

931
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,840
No, not one person would be sad.
That you no, and she's already

932
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:54,720
in the crypt, so you can just
leave her there, it's OK.

933
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,480
Somebody will find her in a few
years.

934
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,040
No she's going to go out looking
for Laurent cause her ass is

935
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,880
alive 'cause he end up with that
she.

936
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,920
Just can't be a sore loser and
lick her wounds and go home.

937
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:14,640
Yeah, no, but now it's like.
We already know, just since it

938
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,360
was the mastermind.
Yeah, and that's what I was just

939
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,480
about to say.
So now instead of her being

940
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:26,160
behind those saying following
him and kind of doing what he

941
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,440
wants and then kind of doing her
own thing behind his back, now

942
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,760
she had she's going to have full
reign to do whatever she wants.

943
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,840
And you know, she's going to
have Marie doing some stuff for

944
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:46,400
her.
Well, I don't, you know what I

945
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,600
don't know because I was going
to say most of the people have

946
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,440
sent it and those same came in
with their dad.

947
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,960
So 10 speaking, she was a Ringo.
Game from it.

948
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,560
Well, she.
Is looking for the plane, so she

949
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,200
might be able to use her sensor
and whatever resources her

950
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,360
sensor may have to.
Find a plane.

951
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,960
Right, to find a plane, because
of course they didn't bring all

952
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,920
of their people.
There's probably still a few

953
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,080
more guards that she could, you
know, round up 'cause I mean,

954
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,120
right now her sense is in her
place by herself.

955
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,400
She doesn't have anybody else
there with her.

956
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,880
She doesn't have anybody to
protect her cause Darren Codrone

957
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,280
killed them all.
So I think right now Marie kinda

958
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,480
has the upper hand.
She does.

959
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,080
So she can either be like, you
can help me find this plan or

960
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,520
she can just kick her out and be
like, look, you are disturbing

961
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:42,520
my business, baby.
You are disturbing my business.

962
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,920
My name is Bess.
I ain't in this mess.

963
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:53,400
Get out, take your dead bodies
with you, and leave me the fuck

964
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:53,960
alone.
She ain't.

965
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,840
Gonna do that though.
She's not, you know, she's not

966
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:03,000
because of if.
If her sensor has any idea of

967
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,960
what the Demi Monde is, then
she's going to know there's

968
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,200
weapons there, She's going to
know there's fuel there, there's

969
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,000
going to be things there.
Say that again, 'cause your,

970
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,080
your audio went out.
Oh, I went.

971
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,880
Too far back, I said.
She's not gonna wanna take it.

972
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,920
Her ultimate purpose is finding
that boy she don't care about.

973
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,520
None of that shit.
Oh, I know, but but you, you

974
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,720
have all of these.
OK, again, going back to the way

975
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:31,320
Marie treats her people, you
have all of these people that

976
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:37,360
you have been mistreating.
Her sensor can come back and say

977
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,000
hey, I can offer you all a
better solution and you might

978
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,480
get to kill a few people with
it.

979
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,280
You don't.
Think so because Marie is an

980
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,000
overzealous religious person so
she don't give a fuck about all

981
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,160
that seeing that they got going
on the drinking.

982
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,040
Oh, you mean high sensor?
Who did I say?

983
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,640
Marie.
Yeah, yeah.

984
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,200
High sensor, don't care about
that.

985
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,480
You know she's a overzealous, so
she don't.

986
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,760
Her ultimate goal is Laurent.
She don't care about what the

987
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,680
hell they.
She has never been in a position

988
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,520
to want that that lifestyle.
Yeah, no, no, no, I'm not saying

989
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,560
she wants that lifestyle, But
what I'm saying is she might go

990
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:20,080
in and she might see all these
people who might or might not be

991
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,840
disgruntled with the way Maria's
running things.

992
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,240
She might offer them a better,
you know, a better option.

993
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:31,560
Like, hey, so do you guys want
to be under her hand and foot,

994
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,000
you know, with her telling you
what to do and being

995
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,480
disrespectful and treating y'all
like you were on the bottom of a

996
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,920
shoe?
Or do you want to go with me and

997
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,960
actually get some power and you
may be helping with this

998
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,280
particular cause.
Those people, they might

999
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,000
especially because some of those
people are Madam Janae's people.

1000
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,760
They might be like, OK, yeah,
let's go.

1001
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,880
And I also think that like a lot
of the people who are who did

1002
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,720
work for Madam Janay, they were
just cared about being safe and

1003
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,880
being protected because that's
what we saw with when they were

1004
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,280
passing out the free food.
And they were like, oh, you

1005
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,600
know, join us.
And you know you can eat like

1006
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,440
this all the time, blah blah
blah blah.

1007
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,600
Blah.
But they would be more protected

1008
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,960
with high Santa because, I mean,
yeah, you at the Demi mind you,

1009
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,880
you got the dancers and the
girls and the guys and all this

1010
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,000
other stuff.
But her sense and her crew just

1011
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,960
walked up in there and started
regulating.

1012
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,280
Do you really feel safe there
now knowing that they can just

1013
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,240
come in at any time and decide,
Oh yeah, we're going to, you

1014
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,280
know, you have these people who,
granted, Daryl is not a part of

1015
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,800
the Demi mind, but Daryl was
there for safety.

1016
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:48,080
Laurent was there for safety.
These people found you came in,

1017
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,360
chase them through the catacombs
and people die.

1018
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,080
Do you really feel safe there?
Or do you want to come with me

1019
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,880
and we can we can figure this
out?

1020
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:03,200
Yeah, I can see that.
So because right now if, if they

1021
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,800
still have people that at the
nest, like we said in the last

1022
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,440
episode, they were still using
that as a base of operations.

1023
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,280
We know they can't go back to
Maison Mayor.

1024
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,280
So if the Nest is still
operational, again, we've talked

1025
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:23,160
about the security of the nest,
you really have a perfect place

1026
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,240
because you're at you're, you're
isolated, but you have all of

1027
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:33,360
this, all of this land in front
of you and around you.

1028
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:39,160
So you, you got vantage points,
you can see if if, if you're

1029
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,440
guarding it properly, then you
shouldn't have any surprises.

1030
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,760
Where's the demon mind?
Everybody and their Mama just

1031
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,000
coming up through that.
You you coming through the front

1032
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,120
door, you coming through the
catacombs and.

1033
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,920
These plan has security.
Right, right.

1034
01:02:54,840 --> 01:03:01,560
Daryl came in through the train,
the train tracks, so not really

1035
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,120
that secure.
So yeah, her sister could come

1036
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,360
back and be like OK, y'all can
need to stay here and something

1037
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,800
might happen.
You know, I might go put a bug

1038
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,480
in somebody else's ear and your
competitors can come in and and

1039
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,160
wipe you out.
Or y'all could just go with me

1040
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,440
and help me do this thing and be
OK.

1041
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:26,640
She good you know she's you know
she's motivated now because they

1042
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,840
didn't kill the same she's
motivated now she's like oh oh

1043
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:36,040
y'all about to die you mean my
man, my man right so she's got

1044
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:40,600
motivation now let me go find
this little boy let me do what I

1045
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,080
need to do and let me kill this
let me kill this irritating

1046
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,120
American his irritating American
friend he's.

1047
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,280
Really not going to be that
easy.

1048
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,640
No.
He thinks he's going to be

1049
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,720
there.
No, because again, all your

1050
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,000
people are dead.
Losang is dead.

1051
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,280
And that was your main.
Right, y'all been trying to kill

1052
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,040
this man for how how long and he
keeps fucking your shit up.

1053
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,920
Leave that man alone.
Leave that man alone.

1054
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,120
We said it, leave him alone.
This ain't what you want, this

1055
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:21,840
ain't what you want.
But we'll see how that goes.

1056
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,680
The next episode is the last
episode for season 2.

1057
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,400
We still got to figure out how
the hell they're getting to

1058
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,440
Spain Yes, I must say it.
Like I said before, I don't

1059
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,240
think all of them can fit on the
plane.

1060
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,360
So either somebody's dying or
somebody's staying behind.

1061
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,720
It's.
It's got to be to me, if it's if

1062
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:48,200
someone has to be left behind,
it's going to be an argument

1063
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,160
between Carol and Darrell and
who that is, of course, of

1064
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,480
course it.
Would make more sense for Daryl

1065
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,760
to stay behind because he's at
least somewhat familiar with

1066
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,400
where everything is.
But Carol's not going.

1067
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,520
She ain't going to let that
happen that easy.

1068
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,880
Told me like, I came all the way
over here to rescue you, get

1069
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,560
your ass on the plane, I will
figure this out.

1070
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,000
And Daryl's going to be like,
'cause you don't, you don't know

1071
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,480
the players in this town, you
don't know where things are, you

1072
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,800
don't know what's dangerous, you
don't know what isn't.

1073
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,840
Cause Daryl walks across the
country so he at least has some

1074
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,000
idea.
And push come to shove, if he

1075
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,760
has to hold up somewhere, he can
go to Isabel's apartment.

1076
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,360
Nobody's going to think to look
for him there.

1077
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,200
Yeah.
'Cause nobody else knows that

1078
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:40,680
apartment.
Exists but if Ash and Laurent

1079
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:48,200
make it out with either of them,
I think for care if it makes

1080
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,560
sense for Darrell to stay.
But Carol would send Darrell

1081
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,520
because, bitch, I came.
All the way over there.

1082
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,880
I know they gonna fight about
it, absolutely.

1083
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,960
To go home.
Yeah, and she's gonna want,

1084
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,840
she's gonna want him to go home
because Laurent, she's gonna be

1085
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,400
like, OK, look, you know this
boy better.

1086
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:14,560
And who knows if, like, if they
have enough gas to get them

1087
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,840
where they're going to go.
If you think about what Carol

1088
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,440
said, Carol didn't say back to
Ash's house.

1089
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,160
She said she said with what we
have, it should be enough to get

1090
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,560
us home.
She's planning on having Ash

1091
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,000
taking them all the way to the
Commonwealth, I think.

1092
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,440
And if they're going to do that,
it would make more sense for

1093
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,280
Daryl to be with Laurent.
Have some little boy show up.

1094
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,800
Right.
Well, I mean, you know what

1095
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,600
little boy, I don't think they
would have a problem with him,

1096
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,080
especially if Ash says hey,
Carol and Daryl sent me or Carol

1097
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,920
or that, you know.
Yeah, either name, they'll be

1098
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,080
the one.
Right.

1099
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,840
So I don't think that would be a
a issue.

1100
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,160
Plus, that'll also give Ash a
place to go because he can't

1101
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:05,600
really go back to his place so.
At the end of all of this they

1102
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,560
going to have to give us a
Walking Dead movie to wrap all

1103
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:14,360
the I'm just saying just do a 2
hour movie showing every because

1104
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,600
we already know Michonne and
Rick is there so.

1105
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,160
It's going to be enough.
It's it's going to have to be.

1106
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,760
Like I'm just saying we have to
show Morgan because remember

1107
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,400
Morgan said I'm going back.
It has to show Morgan Warren

1108
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,840
back.
It has to show we know Maggie

1109
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,560
was a Hilltop, but it has to
show Maggie and Megan coming

1110
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,600
back.
It has to show Daryl, John

1111
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,880
Carroll coming back.
So it's like all of these

1112
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,440
factors.
Dwight and Sherry, remember they

1113
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:43,080
went back to Sanctuary.
So it's all of these factors.

1114
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:47,440
If they ever decide to wrap up
all these, you have to have like

1115
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,880
a large wrap up, bring everybody
who's still alive the fuck back

1116
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:53,840
and tell us what the fuck
happened.

1117
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,680
And I think a movie would be
better because I think one of

1118
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:03,080
the things about the end of The
Walking Dead, like I'm not

1119
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,520
saying that they had too many
characters and I didn't like it

1120
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,560
because I loved all of the
characters.

1121
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:13,400
I love the different story arcs.
But when you have such a huge

1122
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,680
ensemble and you tell good
stories to make us care about

1123
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,160
all of those characters, the
storylines are going to suffer

1124
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:25,960
in some way because you can't
devote that much time to 15

1125
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,200
different characters and their
storylines.

1126
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:32,600
So a movie would be a good way
to wrap that up, some kind of

1127
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,960
way for them to all come
together, even maybe throw in

1128
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:40,960
the, you know, throw in Iris and
hope in them and, you know, just

1129
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:47,120
make it kind of together, then
go to the world, whatever.

1130
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,399
I wouldn't mind that me.
But I think the problem with

1131
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:55,800
that would be if they did that,
that would be the end of The

1132
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,880
Walking Dead universe.
And I don't know if I'm ready

1133
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,160
for that yet.
Like I know a lot of people who

1134
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,720
don't really care about the spin
offs.

1135
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,120
I know a lot of people who are
like oh, is The Walking Dead

1136
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,160
still on?
Like why?

1137
01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:08,760
Why are y'all still watching
this stuff?

1138
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,800
Because I because one thing
about The Walking Dead, they do

1139
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,600
character stories very well and
they make you care about these

1140
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,600
characters.
Which is why we keep getting

1141
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,920
pissed when we keep getting
introduced to folks and they die

1142
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,640
in the same episode or they die
episode later.

1143
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:30,200
Because even with the short
amount of time, for the most

1144
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,680
part they get it right.
Yeah.

1145
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:37,439
So I don't know if I'm quite
ready for that, but I, I, there

1146
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,920
are things I do want to see.
I have.

1147
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,720
I need to see Morgan and Rick
reunite because there's and.

1148
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,920
Rick reunite.
And I need to see Darren, Rick,

1149
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,720
but like even with the Morgan
and Rick, like Morgan and Rick

1150
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:55,480
started this whole thing
together as far as like if Rick

1151
01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:57,720
wouldn't even be here if it
wasn't for Morgan.

1152
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:03,800
But there are other things that
as hard as it would be, I want

1153
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,920
to see how the characters play
that out.

1154
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,920
I need to see how Morgan reacts
when he finds out that Carl is

1155
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:15,960
dead.
I need to see how Morgan reacts

1156
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:20,120
when he finds out that Rick was
presumed dead and was missing

1157
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,800
for however many years.
Because you cannot tell me that

1158
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,000
if Morgan was still in
Alexandria at the time the

1159
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,160
bridge blew up, you cannot tell
me that he would not have been

1160
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,600
with Michelle and Daryl looking
for Rick.

1161
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,600
Absolutely.
So I do want to see the

1162
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,920
culmination of those stories.
I'm not quite ready to do it

1163
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:44,120
yet.
It, it, it, it, it that's the

1164
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,120
way it definitely needs to wrap
up.

1165
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,480
Like they can't just say, oh,
this is what I I don't want to

1166
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:53,000
see it as someone telling the
story of what happened.

1167
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:58,400
I want to see it right, you
know, because the emotion of

1168
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:03,400
Rick and and Morgan getting back
together is going to be like, we

1169
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,440
don't.
Be a mess.

1170
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,640
We going to be a mess.
This is where it started from.

1171
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:12,200
The three needs to end.
Seeing Daryl and and Rick and

1172
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,320
Michonne reunite, we going to be
a mess.

1173
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,880
Even Carol with Rick and
Michonne we going to be a mess

1174
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,800
because these are the these,
especially with Rick, Carroll,

1175
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,360
Daryl, they are the only three
from the very beginning that's

1176
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,520
left.
Yeah.

1177
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,840
Aside from Morgan, but you know,
we always look at Morgan

1178
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,040
separately because he wasn't
part of the group until later

1179
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,640
on.
So they got to Alexandria,

1180
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,560
right?
But Daryl, Carroll, Rick, the

1181
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,400
OG's, we have to see some kind
of reunion with them.

1182
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:49,120
Have to.
So what I need is I need for

1183
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:54,680
Rick to get one of them damn CRM
helicopters and I need Daryl and

1184
01:11:54,680 --> 01:12:00,000
Carol to, to find a radio
somewhere and call home and hear

1185
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,280
Rick's voice and be like, dude,
come get us right now.

1186
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,560
Come get us.
I I need to see it.

1187
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,760
I need to.
I'm gonna call my ass off when I

1188
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:17,080
do.
You have to keep in mind Rick

1189
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,680
and Michelle will know about the
Commonwealth because remember

1190
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,960
Judith was at the Commonwealth.
Yeah, yeah, you'll.

1191
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,760
Know about it so.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1192
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:31,240
They need to call back.
They need to call home Carol and

1193
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:35,720
Daryl and whoever's man in the
radio, whether it's Gabriel or

1194
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:40,560
whoever, Eugene, whatever 'cause
you know, Eugene hear them.

1195
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,640
He gonna go running.
Rick.

1196
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:49,440
I'm get us we in France, Rick
gonna be like the fuck, but I

1197
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:52,960
thought I went far.
No, come get us we in France.

1198
01:12:55,320 --> 01:13:01,880
CRM has the ability right?
And, and look, and if Ash makes

1199
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:06,440
it there with Laurent, he can
tell you exactly where to go.

1200
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,400
So yeah, yeah, he he can tell
you.

1201
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,440
The last place they were seen.
Yeah, yeah.

1202
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,880
But you know what, like I said
again, I would love to see that,

1203
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,640
but I'm not quite ready for that
yet.

1204
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,600
But I guess if if they do
something with Morgan, probably

1205
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,760
would have to be soon because
other than that, MO gonna be 16

1206
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,920
by the time yeah, she'll.
Be a whole adult.

1207
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:34,040
But like who is this And no.
And nobody at nobody knew about

1208
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,600
MO other than Dwight and Sherry.
Right.

1209
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,320
Because that that was way, you
know.

1210
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,280
Yeah, that was years down the
road.

1211
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:47,680
So we'll see.
But we've got one episode left

1212
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,480
for this season.
They are currently in the middle

1213
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:57,120
of filming Season 3 in Madrid.
And I think I saw something that

1214
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:02,320
said season 4 might be the end,
but I can't, I don't remember.

1215
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,800
You know, sometimes you see
stuff, people post stuff and

1216
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,600
it's not entirely accurate.
Let.

1217
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:11,600
Me.
Let me hit a little quick

1218
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:17,440
Google.
You're gonna check the ghouls.

1219
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,080
Let's check the Googles.
The Googles see you then.

1220
01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:32,120
But yeah, so we have that.
Michelle should be back with us

1221
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,880
for that episode.
She is at a conference today.

1222
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,960
She's presenting at a conference
today.

1223
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,680
So that is why she is not on
this particular recording.

1224
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,480
But I know she got some stuff to
say about this episode, so we'll

1225
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:48,720
get her thoughts about that when
we get ready to talk about

1226
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,200
Episode 6.
OK, what it says is The Walking

1227
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,280
Dead, Darrell just the
showrunner already has plans for

1228
01:14:55,280 --> 01:15:00,280
season 4, so it didn't say.
That renewed, but they say they

1229
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,880
just have plans for it, OK.
And it doesn't say anything

1230
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,440
about whether or not that will
be the final season, right?

1231
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,760
No, OK.
They're still saying that

1232
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:17,200
they're giving like previews on
season 3 location teasers, like

1233
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,000
some stuff about season 3 is
coming out.

1234
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:25,000
But I haven't seen anything
where it says, yeah, only thing

1235
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,680
it says the showrunner confirm
story plans for season 4.

1236
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:33,520
OK, they got season.
OK.

1237
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,640
So we know that there may be a
season 4.

1238
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,720
And they'll tell them where
they're going to be.

1239
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,360
And are they still going to call
it the book of like for season

1240
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:43,960
3?
Are they still going to call it

1241
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,960
the Book of Carol or is it going
to be something else?

1242
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:47,120
It'll.
Be something else.

1243
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,560
It has to be the book of best
friends.

1244
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,480
My buddy.
Oh, it can't be going home if

1245
01:15:56,480 --> 01:15:57,760
they're going to have a season
4.

1246
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,440
I guess they, I guess the real
thing to know because if they do

1247
01:16:02,440 --> 01:16:08,040
a Season 3 and get cancelled,
we're going over the house here.

1248
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,760
I'll see you getting cancelled.
But I'm just saying.

1249
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:17,640
Right, right.
Or they could maybe they can do

1250
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:23,120
something for season 3 to kind
of end it just in case like

1251
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,880
maybe they'll say OK, we'll
we'll this is how we're going to

1252
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,880
do it.
But if we get renewed, we can do

1253
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:34,880
this like, like maybe they'll,
and I know that that's probably

1254
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:39,960
going to cost a lot, but they
could always film like an

1255
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,760
alternate episode.
So you have one episode that

1256
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,720
will lead them into season 4 or
you have one episode that will

1257
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,760
close out the story.
Yeah.

1258
01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:56,760
So yeah.
OK, so we will figure that out,

1259
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:04,160
but yeah, so so let's see.
Once Daryl Dixon is over, we

1260
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,360
have one more episode.
Dead City.

1261
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,000
Oh, Dead City.
They have been releasing some.

1262
01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:12,360
They did release a teaser
trailer.

1263
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,960
So we do have that.
I can't remember if there was a

1264
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:21,280
date other than 2025, but I
think the the first season they

1265
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,400
released it kind of early in the
year, like February, March,

1266
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,480
because I think it was right
after the Super Bowl.

1267
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,720
So maybe within the next few
weeks, next month or so, we'll

1268
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:37,760
have a date that we can, you
know, it stay in line with this

1269
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,600
one ending in the other one
picking up.

1270
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,440
Yeah.
So like a winter hiatus, how

1271
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:45,040
shows do.
And then it's going to pick up

1272
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,760
in February and we'll have a
summer hiatus and this one will

1273
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,480
be back.
Yeah, 'cause don't be giving us

1274
01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:51,840
too much.
But they giving us, you know,

1275
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,920
they give it, they still giving
us content.

1276
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,040
You know, they're they're
they're spacing it out.

1277
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,000
Whereas it seemed like a year.
But we have something, you know,

1278
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,400
a little bit to feel in the
space.

1279
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,080
So, yeah.
So that I can't wait to see the

1280
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:11,080
finale and see what happened.
I know see who playing, see just

1281
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,280
what happens to people who are
left.

1282
01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:19,240
See if anybody dies, because I'm
telling you, I at this point

1283
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:25,480
with it being this late, I don't
know if I feel like Kadrana's

1284
01:18:25,480 --> 01:18:27,840
going to die.
Like I said, I, I feel like we

1285
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:32,640
got to have one character, at
least one character to carry

1286
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,720
over from France to however
they're telling the story.

1287
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,560
Because we don't even know
exactly what the story is from

1288
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:40,880
Madrid.
We just know that they're

1289
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,240
filming there, but we don't know
if the story is actually moving

1290
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,640
to Spain.
They could be shooting in Spain

1291
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,520
and it's going to be a different
country.

1292
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,880
We don't know that yet, but I
feel like they have to have at

1293
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,480
least one person to come over,
maybe 2.

1294
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:01,400
So my choices would be Falou and
Cadrone because her sensor needs

1295
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,880
to die.
Yeah.

1296
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,720
You're not about to chase
Laurent for a whole another six

1297
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,320
episodes is not about to happen.
You need to die.

1298
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,040
And then Maria ain't going no
damn where.

1299
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,120
Nah.
'Cause she in charge of the

1300
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,280
club, why would she leave?
Yeah, yeah, you.

1301
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,480
Know damn where?
No, she's the heritage of

1302
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:24,720
George.
Yeah.

1303
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,440
So who that lead?
Yeah, you're right.

1304
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,960
For the drone Forloo, you know,
the people who are at the

1305
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,920
sanctuary, but I mean those are
just kind of background people.

1306
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,200
Those those people aren't
bothering anybody.

1307
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,240
They don't have anything to do
with the fighting.

1308
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:44,360
So they're all going to be safe.
Especially, what's her name, the

1309
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,640
black woman, Sonya.
Y'all better not touch her.

1310
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,160
Don't touch her, don't touch
her.

1311
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,040
But yeah, 'cause everybody else
is gone.

1312
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:58,520
Losane is gone, Janae is gone,
so her Santa has to die.

1313
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:06,840
Sabine.
But I don't see, I don't see

1314
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:12,960
Sabine caring, caring about
Laurent enough to go out of her

1315
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:17,240
way to look for him.
Like she might do it while her

1316
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,960
Santa is in charge because it's
important to her Santa and it's

1317
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:25,960
important to to the face.
But let's say something happens

1318
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,000
to her Santa.
Let's say she dies in the next

1319
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:33,360
episode or whatever.
I don't see Sabine chasing after

1320
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:37,560
La Ron.
She's she's like, it wasn't, it

1321
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,720
was Janae's and Janae is gone.
So now she's going to be like,

1322
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,600
OK, you know what?
I'm about to go over here and

1323
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,200
chill.
Yeah, look, maybe, maybe let me

1324
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,720
go see if Maria give me a job.
In the Demi mind she might, but

1325
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,920
yeah, I don't.
I don't think I see her.

1326
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:58,120
I mean, if anything, she may die
as part of ending that

1327
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,400
storyline.
Like if they go after Laurent,

1328
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,880
something happens, shoot out,
fight.

1329
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:10,040
But she don't.
Aside from being next to Madam

1330
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:15,120
Janae the whole time, she just
don't really strike me as the

1331
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:19,200
type that's like, yes, I'm about
to give my life because I want

1332
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:23,200
this, I want this boy dead or I
want this boy for she just, it

1333
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:29,040
doesn't like you said, it's not
her 'cause so yeah, my, my 2

1334
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,880
picks could drone and falute
mine too.

1335
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,640
So, and then those would be good
allies for whoever gets left

1336
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,840
behind if anybody gets left
behind because we keep talking

1337
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:47,160
about, you know, Ash and Laurent
and Carol or Ash and Laurent and

1338
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,440
Daryl flying away.
The airplane might not work.

1339
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,960
They might, they might not have
enough gas, so the fuel line

1340
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,800
might break again or something.
So it might be that they have to

1341
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:00,680
travel by foot, all four of
them.

1342
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:08,360
So I don't know, I just know
that playing ain't big enough to

1343
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:14,000
fit all four of them.
So either somebody's getting

1344
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,480
left behind or we all staying
behind and don't figure it out.

1345
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:21,640
Don't see that y'all can't stay
in France.

1346
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:27,000
Y'all need to find a way home.
Zipper zipper 'cause when Darryl

1347
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,640
was telling the one.
When?

1348
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,880
Was like, no, you need to go
back to your people, that's what

1349
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,160
you want.
He was like, that's not what I

1350
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,200
want anymore, you lying
motherfucker.

1351
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,280
Don't you sit here and talk
about I'm gonna stay in France

1352
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:43,960
when you got a whole Judith and
a whole RJ and a whole Connie

1353
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:48,440
and a whole like all your family
is in the Commonwealth.

1354
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:52,600
Give me the last song.
That's that's not what I want

1355
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,280
anymore.
You liar.

1356
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,840
You just feeling guilty,
Especially when Laurent told him

1357
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,960
isn't loved you.
She told me he started.

1358
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:06,920
He gets ready to start.
I was like, yeah, I, I think he

1359
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,960
feels guilty because I think he
cares about her.

1360
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,440
He cared about her, but I don't
think he loved her the way she

1361
01:23:12,440 --> 01:23:15,320
might have loved him.
So get over that.

1362
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,280
Mister Dixon.
That's going to happen to you

1363
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:22,120
more and more often as, I mean,
think about all the people

1364
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:23,960
you've lost already.
It's going to happen.

1365
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:30,680
You're in the zombie apocalypse.
So anyway, you have any final

1366
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:35,840
thoughts about this episode?
I'm glad Levon didn't do

1367
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,400
anything that deserved a
whooping.

1368
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:45,000
Yeah, 'cause I, I was really
scared for him at that one point

1369
01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:49,520
in the catacombs, but he
actually look, it's, it's like

1370
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:54,160
all of that talking and stuff
finally, fucking finally

1371
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:58,920
clicked.
But also, I think with the

1372
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:05,120
deaths of Sylvie and Isabel, I
think he finally realized, OK,

1373
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,840
you know what, these people are
really trying to kill me.

1374
01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:12,840
So maybe you know.
No, after he had to leave the

1375
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,360
sanctuary, when they came there
looking for him, that's when he

1376
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,560
realized come in bed first.
He's talking about no, I'm not

1377
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:22,760
going to go bitch, OK?
But I mean, I understand why he

1378
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,400
didn't want to go, too, because
he said everybody who was, you

1379
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,960
know, everybody who he loves,
who was trying to protect him,

1380
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,200
they're all gone now.
He didn't want that to fall.

1381
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,680
He didn't want that to happen to
Daryl.

1382
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,680
So I understand, especially
coming from a child's

1383
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,000
perspective.
He was like, look, if this is

1384
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,360
the only thing I can do to
protect him, then that's what

1385
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,600
I'm going to do.
Especially because Carol came

1386
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,200
all the way over to find him.
And I love the fact that when

1387
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,160
Cadrone said, yeah, an American
woman can't.

1388
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,120
I love the fact that Laurent was
like, what's her name?

1389
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,840
Carol?
He was like, I know you can't

1390
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,680
even find him.
So, yeah, come in.

1391
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,120
He's like, oh you, Carol.
You, Carol?

1392
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,760
Yes.
I've been praying for you and RJ

1393
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,920
and Judith and Ezekiel.
Yeah.

1394
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,240
So Daryl's been telling him
about home.

1395
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,680
So, yeah, don't sit here and lie
talking about I don't want to go

1396
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,440
home.
Liar.

1397
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:17,760
Anyway, OK, so that is it for
our show.

1398
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,320
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1399
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,560
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1400
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1403
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