The Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon: The Book of Carol S2E6 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #328

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Casey.
And after a long delay, we are

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finally discussing this season 2
season finale of the Darrell

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Dixon Show.
Yes.

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And it's been so long since
we've gotten to Darrell Dixon

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that it is now 2025.
Happy New Year, everyone.

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Happy New Year.
So first, let us apologize

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because we have some listeners
who have been waiting for us to

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finish wrapping up this series.
And the problem is we have been

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having a hard time getting all
three of us together to do it

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because of everyone's schedules.
As most of you all know, Casey,

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she travels for work.
So there are times when she is

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in areas where she does not have
the greatest Internet service.

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And then Michelle, Michelle and
I both work in education and

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then Michelle has a side
business as well.

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So it's just been really rough
trying to get all of us together

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at 1:00, you know, at one time.
So Michelle told her she was

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like, look, go ahead, go on
without me.

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So Michelle, hey, we miss you.
But we're going to talk about

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this down Dixon episode because
I have had some stuff to say for

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quite a while now.
But let's just start off with

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the basics.
What did you think about the

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season 2 finale?
It I liked it OK, I.

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Enjoyed it it.
I like the way that it wrapped

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up a bunch of stories, like it
didn't leave loose ends like

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normally they would, although
there's a, you know, the

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cliffhanger where they go next,
but all of the other smaller

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threads have been clipped and I
like that.

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I liked it.
Now we're going into hopefully

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something fresh and new.
So, but I like that all of the

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things that we had been
introduced to throughout the

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season and kind of got wrapped
up.

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Bye, bye, sister Jacinta.
Finally, finally.

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But she was gonna die anyway
'cause she got bit and she had

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the stuff in her face.
Her demise was imminent.

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Yes, I know, but.
Once she realized she lost, she

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took the easy way out.
It would be good to see her as a

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Walker though.
I don't need to see her as a

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Walker.
Her character irritated me.

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She irritated me so bad and I
was just like, like you, You're

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continuing on a mission for a
guy who's dead now.

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Like Losang is dead.
Everybody that he brought with

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him to kind of try to force the
issue of, of taking the want and

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doing this, they're all dead.
So why are you still doing this?

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And and saying you could same
could be said for Sabine after

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Madam Janay died.
What what you doing?

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But you know what?
Your people.

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And and and, you know, do what
you want, but searching down

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this little key, it was not it.
Was not the business, but you

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know, I think maybe her
business, maybe now Sabine is

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probably like, OK, you know
what, that's three leaders that

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I've had like in recent months.
I think it's time to let this

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go.
I mean, and Laurent is gone.

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What are they going to do,
follow him?

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How?
Right.

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And you know, that was the thing
that kind of it, it irritated me

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at the beginning.
And I would say this, I did like

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the episode.
I do have one point of

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contention and that's that in
the press leading up to this

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current season and talking about
the season, Norman was out there

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saying that this season episode
was the best episode in Walking

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Dead history.
And I'm so sorry, Norman.

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I have to disagree with you,
have to disagree with you.

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It was a good episode.
It was a good episode, was not

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the best and it was also not the
most original because all the

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stuff that happened in the
tunnels with the the weird

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walkers and the hallucinations
and stuff.

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I'm so sorry.
Dead City did it first and they

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did it better because they had
that, that big weird Walker,

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octopus Walker, whatever you
want to call it with, with the

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like 50 million arms.
And they, they did it better.

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OK, it, it, it has some good
emotional stuff in this episode.

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I will say that, especially in
regards to Carol.

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And we'll get to that.
But at the beginning of this

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episode, when Anne is driving
through the city with, you know,

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her people and Jacinta's caravan
stops her and they're making all

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the different little threads
about, you know, trying to find

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Laurent.
And they were asking where they

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were.
Well, we know they have a plane.

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And I think it was her.
And she was like, oh, they could

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have already left.
And Sabine is like, well, we've

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been watching the skies and no
one has left.

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So even if they had left, or if
y'all had seen them in the sky,

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what were y'all gonna do 'cause
I don't think.

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Point would if if your whole
mission is the.

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Boy, right, if he's already up
in the air, ain't too much you

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can do.
So I understand you wanting to

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find him before that happens.
But if, let's say, if y'all have

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been watching the skies for two
days, all of a sudden you see a

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plane.
You don't have any weaponry to

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shoot this plane down because if
you did, you probably would have

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brought it with you to the
racetrack to destroy the plane

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before it gets off the ground.
Yeah, they didn't know.

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That was the thing.
I was like, OK, so what's what's

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the whole point?
Because if you guys had shot and

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wish she was like, y'all can,
y'all can kill me, y'all can

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not.
I really don't care.

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And wait, when she said she was
gonna shoot the friend and the

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friend was like, and she was
like, that's why I have friends.

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She was like, that's why I don't
have friends.

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And the girl was looking at her
like, but I mean, unfortunately,

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she has a point because guess
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In this kind of world, your
friends and your loved ones can

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be used against you.
We've seen it time and time and

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time and time again.
Yeah.

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So, I mean, think about it.
That's that's how Quinn is dead

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because Quinn had attachments he
wouldn't let go of.

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So she learned a valuable
lesson.

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Yes, she did.
But her only thing was, OK, I'll

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help you guys 'cause I want that
plane and I want the pilot.

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I wanna go home.
When she said I'll take the

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plane and the pilot, she would
think the pilot.

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Just gonna go where you tell him
what I mean, if he has a gun on

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him, he probably will.
Because, you know, I'm.

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Saying doing that, not this
pilot, not this pilot.

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Matt.
The pilot Mike, this one here

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and he already mad he he would
probably be like I crashed this

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motherfucker first.
He is still.

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Big mad.
Big mad, big mad.

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Big mad.
So you just gonna take him and

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tell him where he gonna go?
Well, I mean, no, OK that.

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Wasn't gonna happen.
I don't care what they put to

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his head.
He crashed the plane first.

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But you know what, he might have
been you.

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He might have been like, you
know what?

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I don't want to be around Carol
because she lied to get me here.

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I don't know who this Daryl
person is.

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She she probably still hasn't
told him what Daryl is and and

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why she went looking for him,
although I'm sure he has his

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own.
Probably guesses but.

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He'll.
Be like, oh, you want to go

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somewhere else?
Yes, less because I don't.

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Look, thanks to Carol, I don't
have a home to go back to.

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I don't have any reminders of my
son to go back to now.

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So Ash might actually be open to
another adventure.

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Oh, we're gonna go somewhere
else.

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OK, cool.
You just look.

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I'll fly you there.
You take care of me.

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You look, you obviously have the
means to do it because you are

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walking around in a world of the
zombie apocalypse with some 4

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inch stilettos on.
Like, who does that?

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Who does that?
Deb Hart.

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Her, I was looking at her like,
so if a Walker happens to come,

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which eventually did happen for
her.

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But what you, I mean, I
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the stilettos off and maybe if
you have enough strength in your

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upper body, you can probably get
that through a Walker's skull.

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But what like can't?
Can we not be more practical?

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You can still be fashionable
with tennis shoes on, Boo.

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But no, it's all about fashion,
honey fashion.

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Where in Paris, the fashion
capital of the where out now I

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have to be present to them for.
I'm trying to have that, I

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guess, trying to put on those
those airs and trying to put on

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that persona of her being in
charge and her being whatever.

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Oh, well, you did now.
So how did that work out for

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you?
Which I, I felt, I felt a little

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bit, I felt bad about it.
But I would say this, she went

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out like a boss because she told
Jacinta she was like, this is

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going to kill you.
And she was like, no, he won't

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because God is on our side.
She was like, bitch, God

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abandoned us a long time ago and
long time ago started tearing

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into her.
When they started biting into

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her, she didn't say a word.
She didn't flinch.

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It's like she was waiting for
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And I'm not giving you the
satisfaction.

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Not only that, but she was
probably like, oh, I'm you know

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what?
At this point, I'm so glad to be

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done with all this shit.
I think at that point she was

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just ready.
Yeah.

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I can see that 'cause when once
they, I think once they got to

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the hyperone there, uh huh.
Once they got there, she looked

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at that poster and then remember
when she had the flashback.

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Mm hmm.
She wasn't gonna hurt Lauren.

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She wasn't gonna let them get
him.

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That's why she was like, oh
y'all gotta go through there and

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just.
It was like you first.

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But I think at that point she
had already resolved.

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I'm not getting out of this.
Yeah, but.

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Also, even though I ain't
getting out of this, I'm not

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about to let y'all take him, so
if I gotta take a couple of

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y'all with me, let's go this
way.

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Yeah, yeah.
And I mean, she could have

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gotten out if they hadn't locked
her in that thing.

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And I still think she probably
could have gotten away.

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I think if she really wanted to,
she probably could have gotten

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the door open.
She probably could have

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maneuvered her way around the
walkers.

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Because even though the walkers
are faster, you're talking about

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one person versus all these
people over here and all the

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people there.
They're the ones that shooting.

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They're the ones that's making
the noise.

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I would think that the that
would attract them more than her

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kind of slipping away.
But like I said, I I think she

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was just done.
And she probably could have got

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out of there sooner when when
they first start the the walkers

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first start coming from the
darkness.

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She went against the wall.
Yeah, she could have.

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She could have made her escape.
She could have.

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But didn't work out that way.
Yeah.

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And like you said, I think she
was probably protecting Laurent

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because even if she had kept
going, because that particular

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door was that was that was there
was no door.

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There was just an entryway.
She could have gone through

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there.
But that would have definitely

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LED them to Laurent and Darrell
and all of them.

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And I think she was to the point
where she was like, OK, no, I

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can't.
I'm not going to go that way

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because some of them could have
gotten out alive, as we saw.

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They had a lot of, they had a
lot of soldiers with them.

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They had guns.
So, yeah, I, I think she made

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the sacrifice.
Yeah.

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You know, regardless of whether
it was just because Laurent was

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a little boy, whether it was
because that was Quinn's son, or

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whether it was because she
actually believed that there

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might be something different or
special about him.

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But I think too, I think a a
part of it was a big fuck you

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too, just sent it to Oh,
absolutely, absolutely.

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Like you locking me in here
means nothing, bitch, 'cause

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you're not gonna live either.
I'm telling you, you have.

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Oh, it's fine.
I ain't made it, but neither are

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you.
Right.

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And that look, Dixon?
Had to kill her.

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She took that walk.
That walk.

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I mean, essentially, yes.
Not only the Walker bite, but

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when she shot him in the head,
some of the blood splattered and

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he was one of those burners.
So her face is being eaten out.

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So it's just yeah, you you
weren't long for this world.

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And I'm actually surprised that
she didn't turn as quickly as

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we've seen some of the others.
I'm.

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Losing her arm yeah, but cause
the burn is fine 'cause remember

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Darrell got burned on his arm.
No, she she got bit on the arm.

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No, no, no your.
Burn was in the face.

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No, but I'm saying she got bit
in the arm so 'cause even

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remember when Tyrese got bit it
took him a minute and they

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chopped the arm off and might
have made it.

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But that arm, I mean Tyrese end
up dying 'cause he lost blood.

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But either way, yeah, he got bit
on the arm.

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So you know that does take a
little longer if you on the arm

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or the leg, it's when you get
that neck or the back of the

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shoulder.
Yeah, but anyway, Ding Dong the

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witch is dead, so hopefully
Sabine can go and live her best

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life and be like OK, I'm tired
of following crazy.

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I hope so.
I hope so.

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Go live my best life and do
whatever.

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Because now you have a bunch of
soldiers and a bunch of people

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at at the nest now with no
leader, right?

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And you can tell they were being
LED first with Losang cause some

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people didn't have no mind to
their damn own.

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So not how they that the some I
mean.

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So eventually somebody's gonna
step up, you know, into that

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void.
But same way with well, no

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'cause at least the the military
people got to meet Yeah, as as

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she is.
But everyone in the nest that's

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gonna.
Be me, might probably she might

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be like, OK, you know what?
I'm done.

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Yeah.
I'll go do whatever y'all want

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to do.
I'm going to the nest and I'm

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going to go chill.
I don't want to leave nobody.

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I don't want to be in charge of
nobody.

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I don't want to have a mission.
I just want to take a break.

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And that probably would be best
for everybody.

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We would because essentially by
Laurent leaving, what is the

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threat in Paris?
Because Janae is going with all

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her experiments.
Yeah.

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Sabine wasn't trying to take
over the world.

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Miss Janae was.
I mean, Madam Janae was in is

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one of those, you know, lower
level.

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I could care as long as I'm
taking care of type people.

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So I, I don't see there's no,
there's no movement now.

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No, especially after the
movement that you've been

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following for so long and then
the second movement that you

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join both, like I said, both of
the leaders are dead.

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So obviously that tells me
something that they were doing

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wasn't right.
Yeah, I may want to.

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Yeah, look.
Look.

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The Demimon now needs a leader.
It needs an owner.

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Hey, I'll go look.
I'll go take ownership of the

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nights so it can have access to
clean living space and alcohol

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and dancers and drag Queens and
everything else.

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My heart does.
Yeah.

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I feel like a good luck to me.
Absolutely.

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Absolutely.
So let's move away from them.

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Rest in peace.
Whatever, whatever.

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Let's talk about Daryl and Carol
'cause I don't know what may

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either one of them think that
the other one was going to let

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the other like.
And it's funny how depending on

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who they talked to, they knew,
Oh, you staying?

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Oh, yeah.
Was talking to Ash.

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She was like, I'm saying.
So when Laurent was talking to

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Darrell, Darrell, Darrell, he's
like, you're not coming with us.

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So each of them thinking that
the other is going to stay and.

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Then switch Laurent is like, so
do you think Darrell can get

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back to America all by by
himself?

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And Carol was like what?
And then Ash is like, oh, I

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guess it is a good thing you
come with us.

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And Darrell was like, what?
Yeah.

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I said y'all knew.
Y'all knew.

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First of all, Carol, it's gonna
be like, there's no way in hell

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that I came all the way over
here to France, lied to this man

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to get him to bring me here to
find you, just to let you stay

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behind.
Say no way that's gonna happen.

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And then Daryl is like, I need
to get Laurent to the States.

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You have a better rapport with
Ash even though yes, he's.

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Pissed off with you but.
You know him better, you can

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help him.
Like Ash said, she can help him

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with the plane.
And I mean, honestly, for me, it

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also makes sense if Daryl was
the one who stayed, if somebody

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had to stay behind, because
Daryl has been in France for

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several months at this point.
What?

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Like I said, we we're not sure
how long he's been there, but

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he's familiar enough with the
streets and with the area.

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He's familiar enough with the
politics, which now are pretty

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much done because all of the all
of the powerful leaders were

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dead.
So he would have been the

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obvious choice to stay.
Yeah, absolutely.

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But of course, you know, nothing
is going to be that easy.

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We should have known they
weren't just going to get in the

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plane and fly away because with
all of that stuff coming down

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and Codrone and Falou having to
come warn them, you know, we

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knew it was going to be a
shootout.

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Now this I will say about
Codrone, because I've been

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saying this as we've been
discussing this series.

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I was like, I really hope that
he turns to our side because I

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like his character and I like
his, his little, his little

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humor, his little French humor,
but also how you gonna be fully

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able bodied?
It's two of y'all with machine

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guns and you gonna let A1 eyed,
one armed flying purple people

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eater shoot you and kill you?
This man got a eye patch and his

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arm in a sling and he's doing
better than y'all.

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He's killing y'all.
He didn't shot one man up on the

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stands.
He has a grenade that he took

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from one of the soldiers and he
didn't like.

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He MacGyver or.
Something Rambo.

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No, he was Rambo.
That's what I was thinking.

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He was Rambo.
Then he start.

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I say, you know what?
If nothing else told y'all that

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this was a lost cause, the fact
that your men are being killed

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by 1 armed one eyed man and
y'all can't even get a shot off

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and hit either one of these
three men.

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And they only hide in the little
horse stable thing.

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Even before they were hiding in
the horse stable thing when they

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were out there by the plane
y'all got a open shot I don't

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think they want.
To shoot the plane down, that

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was my thought, 'cause if they
shoot at the plane, this is This

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is why I thought they didn't
shoot at the plane.

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The Rogers in the plane, you
trying to get him.

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So if you, you don't want to be
shooting at the plane, to have

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no stray bullet miss and hit him
'cause that's gonna defeat your

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purpose.
Once the plane is in the sky,

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you're not trying to shoot it
down 'cause you don't want the

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boy hurt, so your only plan
would have been to try to get to

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him before he got to the plane.
But even when the plane pulls

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off, it's a minute before Daryl
runs over to the horse thing and

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starts turning it.
Well, then again, I guess by

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that point the second person had
been shot.

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So OK, I get that, but it's.
Yes, I'm looking at the part

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now.
So why they in the thing?

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They're in the thing shooting
just sent us at her door and

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they taxi and to get to the
where they can take off.

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Yeah.
So while it's sitting right here

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is this.
OK, so here's the stupid thing

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about Jacinta and her people.
Because they didn't turn that

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horse, the horse lanes to the
point where a car couldn't have

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got through.
But you're gonna, you're gonna

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send a motorcycle, One man in a
motorcycle.

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No, the second one was the dune
buggy.

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Well, we didn't see the dune
buggy until later.

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You said in the one guy in the
motorcycle you had all these

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jeeps, all these other vehicles.
Y'all could have had somebody

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keeping the three shooters
distracted while another one of

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those vehicles went after the
plane.

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What we realized is something
ain't the smartest, OK?

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I think we realized that.
So she's not good on strategy.

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I'm just you.
You depended upon Anne to get

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you through, to get to even
where you needed to go.

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You're not good on strategy.
Man and she was following

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Losang, but but she's not good.
She's a.

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Follower.
She's a follower.

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She not gonna have them grand
ideas.

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Because if you remember, if you
remember when they were sending

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Daryl out to look for for Lou
and his people, she was the

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mastermind behind trying to set
up getting Daryl killed behind

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those sayings back.
She was the one who was kind of

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she was, she was his sidekick,
but she was kind of sort of the

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person in the charge and the
person in charge and secret

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because she had people doing her
bidding behind those sayings

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back.
So she ain't that stupid.

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I mean, maybe, maybe at this
point, maybe the Walker bike was

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starting to fog her brain or
something.

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Because there are other ways
that you could have done this

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and gotten the result that you
wanted.

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Especially when the when the
plane was sitting there forever

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and I'm sitting there looking
like, wow, y'all just sitting

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there.
And it took me until my 6th or

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7th rewatch, which was today, to
realize that that was when Carol

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got off the damn plane.
I didn't realize that's when she

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got off the plane.
OK 'cause that was my question.

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How the hell you jump out the
plane and at the same spot as 0?

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When she said are we good?
And he was like, he turned

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around and looked at Ash and he
was like, yeah, we're good

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because he's thinking, OK, like
Daryl said, you came here to

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save a kid.
You can still save a kid.

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So I think when he looked at Ash
and he he thought about that, he

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was like, yeah, we're good.
If you look at the sequences up

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until we see Carol on the ground
shooting, every time that they

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show the the motorcycle person
coming after them, the Doom

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buggy people, they're only
showing Ash and Laurent.

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They are not showing Carol's
side of the plane.

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Yeah, after they said are we
good?

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Yeah, we're good.
And the plane was still this.

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Is her getting out?
Daryl kept looking back like,

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why the fuck are y'all still
sitting there?

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That's when she got out the
plane, 'cause I thought that

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too.
The first few times I watched I

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was like, So what?
Did she just jump out of the

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plane while the plane was gone?
I mean, I realized he wasn't

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going that fast, but that was
for her to get off the plane

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with a gun to get into position
and load up and and be able to

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catch that, you know, that that
Jeep catch the driver.

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When Daryl's mag emptied, I was
like, there was no way she could

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have done that.
So yeah, I was literally looking

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at it today and that's when it
clicked for me and I was like,

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oh, that's when she got off the
plane.

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OK, that makes sense.
Yeah, 'cause if you look.

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OK, so at first Darrell was at
the green thing and then when

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the motorcycle took off, he ran
over to this field.

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OK, So yes, so then when the
other two men come to the side,

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he shoot them too and then
that's when he run out of

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bullets.
Yep.

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Then 'cause I in Mama I could
not figure out like if she

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jumped out the damn plane, how
y'all at?

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How y'all parallel right?
How are y'all in the same?

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Spot, right.
And I was like, she had to have

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ran, but I was like, Whitney
have seen her.

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Yeah.
So yeah, that's where she got

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off the plane.
So I was like, oh, OK.

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OK.
Because when he was trying to

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shoot at them and his mag was
empty and he got ready to shoot

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again and all of a sudden you
hear this other bullet.

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I was like, OK, Carol, Caroline
got him from somewhere.

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But I was thinking at first I
was like, OK, did she shoot him

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from the plane?
Like, but again, once you go

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back and you watch it and you
see they're only focusing on Ash

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and LeBron, and then after they
get in the air and they kind of

446
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,840
pan over and it's kind of like,
oh, OK, so she got out the

447
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,920
plane.
And then the whole question of

448
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,600
when.
Yeah.

449
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,320
'Cause she like she laying down
and all ready.

450
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,200
To she's comfortable, so she got
in there a minute.

451
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,720
Oh, so she was probably.
So she got out it it it saying

452
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,120
like if Darryl didn't make it,
he would have been to make sure

453
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,600
that they got OK back up.
So that makes.

454
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,160
Sense it's good because this is
what Carol and Darryl do so I'm

455
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,760
I'm glad to see we're all on one
accord 'cause I think Darryl

456
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,800
once he heard the gunshot he
just kind of looked over I think

457
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,720
he was like this bitch I knew
she wasn't going to stay on it

458
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,800
she.
Wasn't going to leave me.

459
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,240
She was not going to leave me.
She was not going to leave him.

460
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,440
You saw the look on her face
when she got ready to close that

461
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,600
door.
She looked like she was about to

462
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,400
cry.
Yes, she was not.

463
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:44,400
I came all this way, Sir.
Like what we not gonna?

464
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,880
Do what we not about to do, like
I'm not about to leave.

465
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,960
You and and not only that, you
really think she's gonna go back

466
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,360
home and get cussed out by
Judith?

467
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,960
Like, excuse me?
Wasn't the whole point of you

468
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,280
leaving was to go get him?
Where is my uncle, Where is

469
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,600
Daryl?
At least with the Ron showing

470
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,520
up, they know he's still alive,
right?

471
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,960
Right.
And they know that Carol is

472
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,640
live.
But then the question is going

473
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,520
to be the fuck they doing in
France and how are they going to

474
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,000
get home?
But I mean it, it stands to

475
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,400
reason if you found a way there,
you can find a way back.

476
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,520
It's just going to take them a
little bit.

477
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,600
Longer little bit longer little
bit.

478
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,400
Longer now, but OK so let's talk
about that little bit longer.

479
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,720
First of all for little.
Find him a girlfriend.

480
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,360
I'm so like man made it to him.
I'm so happy because you know,

481
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,280
that was one of the things I
always worried about.

482
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,200
I was like, if y'all kill for
Lou I'm gonna be mad because I

483
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,160
love that.
Character.

484
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000
Yes, you were.
You're very adamant about.

485
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,200
That like y'all gonna make me
mad.

486
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:55,400
And then when we saw in the
beginning with Akilah there with

487
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,800
her, with him and Cadrone, and
Cadrone is even joking, He was

488
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,120
like love at first sight.
I was like, yeah, he bout to

489
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,440
have a girlfriend.
And then I thought he was really

490
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,560
gonna leave.
And then he was like, I got a

491
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,840
reason to stay now.
I was like, OK, good for you,

492
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,920
Sir, good for you.
He was like, you know, I learned

493
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,720
the whole.
Thing in that thing got nothing

494
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,120
to fight.
You ain't got nothing to fight.

495
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,160
You could just live out your
days at this point.

496
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,800
Go back to the nest and and help
rebuild that.

497
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:30,240
Continue to help people.
I mean, all of what Madam Janae

498
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,120
was doing wasn't bad.
She was helping people.

499
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,360
Yeah.
Now she had a little bit of

500
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,440
dictatorship, you know.
Thinking in it.

501
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,520
Yeah, but all, all of it wasn't
bad.

502
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,800
So they can go and kind of
rebuild that and just be like,

503
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,080
OK, hey, let's let's go ahead
and just kind of help these

504
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,240
people out, help other people
out, help people stay safe, you

505
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,800
know, build a better person.
Now he can go help Akiba find

506
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,160
her sister if her sister is
still alive.

507
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:03,480
But yeah, I was like, I'm so
glad this man made it through

508
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,720
because he deserved it.
He did.

509
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,400
He really did.
He went through a lot these.

510
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,880
Other folks that they don't
introduce these Scottish

511
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:21,080
bachelors.
So again, rewatching it today

512
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,280
after having not having watched
it, you know, for a few months,

513
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,640
I was picking up on other
things.

514
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,440
So I thought that these were
people that Falou had known for

515
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,400
a long time, but no, he met them
at the Demi Mont.

516
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,840
So I was like, OK.
And then listening to them talk

517
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,960
about their experience, how, you
know, it had been a few years

518
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,800
into the zombie apocalypse when
they got married and they were

519
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,400
like, yeah, we decided to come
to Paris because we had heard

520
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,320
about all this stuff and we just
wanted to see what it's like.

521
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,160
I'm still confused as to if
they've been in Paris this whole

522
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,920
time because I'm like, y'all are
talking about taking them

523
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,040
through these tunnels.
Like, y'all just came through

524
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,720
the tunnels recently and y'all
know, you know what's going on.

525
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:12,560
Like this is what we need.
We need provisions like if y'all

526
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,280
had recently come through there,
I can get it.

527
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,760
But if y'all been in Paris for
10:15 however many years, how do

528
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,960
you know that the system is
still the same?

529
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,440
'Cause they used to be with the
stuff that they was taking,

530
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,600
'cause they was like you need to
such a checkpoint.

531
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,040
What what was going to say about
that checkpoint?

532
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,200
So I think the the provisions
for the SharePoint were for the

533
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,400
soldiers because as you saw when
they went through the tunnel,

534
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,800
those soldiers who were in the
SharePoint, they were living in

535
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,240
those tunnels, they had the
tents and everything.

536
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,200
So I guess that was just
provisions for them to be like,

537
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,040
hey, we got some goodies for
y'all.

538
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,440
Y'all, we all let us pass.
Kind of like paying a toll

539
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680
because they had the guns.
They could have been like, no,

540
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,240
you need to turn your ass
around, go back to Paris.

541
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,600
So I guess that was just their
way of guaranteeing that they

542
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,800
would be able to come through.
But let's talk about this

543
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,400
tunnel, because I'm pretty sure
I mentioned it when we just had

544
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,400
the regular conversation.
I'm a huge fan of Stephen King's

545
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,480
The Stand, and ever since I've
read that book and seen that

546
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,280
mini series and they had to go
through the Lincoln Tunnel in

547
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,840
the midst of dead bodies, I'm
like, no, you see them stairs

548
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,320
over on the side.
I would have climbed up and I

549
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,440
would have been walking over
that time.

550
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,760
It might have been a longer way,
but at least I can see what's

551
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,000
going on.
You have to give me context.

552
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000
I have no clue what's your I've
never seen the stand.

553
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,920
So what?
What happens in the stand?

554
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,880
So the stand is a story about a
virus that gets out and it

555
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,600
basically wipes out 75% of the
world's population.

556
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,280
OK.
People just drop dead or they

557
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,400
get sick and they die.
So it's not zombies, but you got

558
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,880
dead bodies all over.
So imagine New York City with a

559
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,040
whole bunch of dead bodies just
just lying around rotting.

560
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,200
So the Lincoln Tunnel is a
tunnel that leads from New York

561
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,280
to I think, New Jersey.
OK, it's a tunnel.

562
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,560
It's very dark.
It may have lights, but in in

563
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,520
this particular sense, because
the infrastructure crashed,

564
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,440
there's no electricity.
So you're having to walk through

565
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,960
this tunnel to try to get to New
Jersey in the midst of cars with

566
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,040
dead bodies.
So thank The Walking Dead and

567
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,240
all of the roadways they have
the the dead bodies.

568
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,720
And then, you know, with The
Walking Dead, when you start

569
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,920
walking through, you know how
the walkers get up and stuff.

570
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,640
OK, no, this doesn't happen.
But it's just dead bodies and

571
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,400
it's rotting flesh and you're in
in an enclosed space and you're

572
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,720
talking for I don't even
remember how long the Lincoln

573
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,000
Tunnel.
Hold on, let me see how long the

574
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,800
Lincoln.
Tunnel is OK, yeah.

575
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,199
I have never I've never seen
that that that movie or is it a

576
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:16,960
movie?
Is is.

577
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,679
The book, yeah, it's it's like a
mini series.

578
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,840
But yeah, so in imagine having
to walk through a mile and a

579
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,400
half of dead, rotting bodies,
cars crashed.

580
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,400
You might have bodies of people
who may have gotten out of their

581
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,679
cars and then drop dead where
they were and just imagine that.

582
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,639
And then of course, it's Stephen
King.

583
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,159
So it has a little bit of a hard
take on it.

584
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,040
So there is a little bit of a
supernatural element where you

585
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,880
might be in this tunnel, you
might start hallucinating things

586
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,960
with.
I don't do tunnels when it comes

587
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,840
to zombies and apocalypses.
And no, I will, I will.

588
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,400
I think like I said there, there
was a staircase on the side.

589
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,280
I would have been up that
staircase and just walked over

590
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,640
and we would have just had to
figure something out because

591
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,360
there's no way I would have gone
into that tunnel.

592
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,920
OK.
And, and especially after seeing

593
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,000
Dead City, as I mentioned
earlier, and what they had to

594
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,840
go, no, no, absolutely not.
But the good thing about this

595
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,040
tunnel is at least for a while,
there are no walkers.

596
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,200
There's there's nothing
threatening them, but there are

597
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,240
a lot of bats in the tunnel.
And when you have a lot of bats,

598
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:42,440
you get a lot of batshit and
apparently bat guano, which I

599
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,400
had never heard that term before
because I don't live in an area

600
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,760
that has an abundance of bats.
Apparently it can have some

601
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,640
hallucinogenic properties.
And so Carol actually kicks a

602
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,760
pile of this.
And they, you know, as they get

603
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,600
further in the tunnel, they
realize, oh, wait, these

604
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,320
soldiers are dead and they all
killed each other.

605
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:14,280
Now, First off, we talked about
the fact that our experienced

606
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,520
people seem to be forgetting
Walker one O 1 when it comes to

607
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,840
certain situations.
But guess who did this time?

608
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,240
No, no, no, no, hold on before.
Before, as you're walking

609
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:31,800
through, you realize there are
no walkers.

610
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,640
You realize everything is dusted
over.

611
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,240
There's a thick layer of dust
everywhere.

612
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,560
Y'all are not reading the
tunnel, you're not reading the

613
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,840
room.
Something ain't right about this

614
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,680
situation.
As you approach the checkpoint

615
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,560
where you see like I think it
was a tank and you see somebody

616
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,920
sitting on top with a gun.
Nobody says halt.

617
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,600
Nobody flashes a flashlight in
your face.

618
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,480
Nobody says, what are you guys
doing?

619
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,520
Who are you?
Where are you trying to go?

620
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:07,560
Nobody says a thing.
And this doesn't trigger a for

621
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:07,920
you.
It's.

622
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,440
Safe.
Then then you won't pass and you

623
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:21,960
see that these soldiers are not
only dead, but their skeletons

624
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,280
have emaciated so much that you
actually see the skeleton and

625
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,240
not just rotting flesh.
They've been dead for a minute.

626
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,240
Yeah.
And y'all.

627
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,440
And that's also what made me
wonder when was the last time

628
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,720
y'all was in this here
checkpoint?

629
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,280
That part.
So your people radar should have

630
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,160
been going off way before it
did?

631
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,640
Way before it did.
Yeah.

632
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:53,960
You're getting a little too
comfortable and you're getting a

633
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,320
little too sloppy.
They are especially.

634
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,640
For Carol, but I will say this,
Carol has some other things that

635
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,080
she was dealing with.
And then the back guano, I guess

636
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,600
was was starting to to take
effect and they were starting to

637
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,840
hallucinate.
But when Daryl realized when,

638
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,120
when you walk into the camp and
you realize, hey, they all

639
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:20,480
killed each other and the girl
says it could be the back guano

640
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,560
because it has hallucinatory of,
you know, effects that should've

641
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,280
been your cue to turn around and
walk the fuck back out the

642
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,240
tunnel.
Like, we will figure this out

643
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:33,640
another way, but this is not
good for us.

644
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,800
Then not only that, then you
come across some glowing shit.

645
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,040
All of your dead walkers, all of
your.

646
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,960
First of all, that's a lot of
dead walkers, especially if they

647
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,280
all killed each other.
Yeah, then they're glowing.

648
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:57,040
What?
What I was like, you know what?

649
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,320
I I don't know what's about to
happen, but it's not about to be

650
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,440
good.
I didn't think it was going to

651
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:09,320
be good honestly, because once
she kicked it up and then they

652
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,400
get so they should kick up the
dust, they get to checkpoint

653
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,640
where he actually did bang on
the little fence.

654
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,960
I'll say good job, good job.
Yeah, he kicked that one thing

655
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,400
and then fucked up on
everything.

656
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:27,960
You know, I'm.
I'm just saying he.

657
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,560
Brought back some of his
original season 1 Walking Dead

658
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,160
training to remember that.
Although I will say they were

659
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,240
like you said with the little
glowy walkers.

660
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,720
They move kind of slow for me.
Like y'all know once you see him

661
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,520
jigging you know just trying to
unstick themselves from the

662
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,440
ground.
Why y'all wait till they get up

663
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,240
like we y'all know better, you
know better.

664
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,800
And, and like I said, I think
probably at that time the bad

665
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,200
guano started taking effect.
So it could be why they were

666
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:07,240
slow on the uptake because even
in Dead City when Maggie was

667
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:11,480
dealing, when they were dealing
with the hallucinatory effects

668
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:17,120
of the the gas, they weren't
acting quite as quick.

669
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,640
And we fussed about that as
well.

670
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,800
So I can kind of sort of see it
here.

671
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,120
But like I said, at this point,
if when you see what's in front

672
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,920
of you versus what you just came
from, turn your ass.

673
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,800
Especially if you know now that
you could be feeling effects

674
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,280
like Daryl.
Seeing they're not gonna do that

675
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,360
because no, no, no, no.
Let me explain.

676
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,840
They're not gonna do that
because they are.

677
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,520
They're the whole purpose is
we're trying to get through.

678
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,160
We already know what's back
there.

679
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,720
We already know.
So if this is the way that's

680
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:54,080
going to get us to London, this
is where we got to go.

681
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:01,120
Like you already know for
Darrell and Carol, they know at

682
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,560
the end of the day we're trying
to get home and if we got to go

683
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,040
through this tunnel of guano and
glow in the dark walkers and

684
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,840
hallucination, then what we
gonna do to get where we trying

685
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,960
to go 'cause we gotta get home.
We got ass and and LeBron up out

686
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,960
of here.
Not now we gotta make it now we

687
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,320
gotta get home then.
It was more than one way to do

688
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,560
this.
Apparently not in France.

689
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:29,120
They just wanted to get this is
the tunnel that nobody's been in

690
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,640
for who knows God how long from
2 weird ass people who showed up

691
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,480
who probably should have been
shocked the first time they

692
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,640
walked through the goddamn
gates.

693
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,000
But I digress.
We listening to two people who

694
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,480
ain't been you met him in in the
House of ill review.

695
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,320
The people's gonna be on the
open up.

696
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,560
I'm just saying, right?
What?

697
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:57,160
What if they are not Remember.
Remember, like, OK in the

698
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,240
original story, anybody they
meet, we skeptical.

699
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,000
Remember they left the
backpacker on the road.

700
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,280
They didn't want to help you.
Nobody.

701
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,360
Maybe they should go back to the
questions that they asked, we

702
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,800
said.
This yes.

703
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,520
Because y'all damn perception of
people.

704
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,800
Y'all giving everybody the
benefit of the doubt in the

705
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,400
beginning.
Darrell with the girl and the

706
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,320
old man.
Like even going back there, why

707
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,080
are y'all not weary of people?
Granted has been 1213 years

708
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,960
since the apocalypse started but
people are still people and

709
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,240
y'all are just giving free will
Willy nilly.

710
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:34,000
Oh here's my trust, here's my
trust.

711
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,760
What trust?
Nobody, right?

712
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,960
You know so.
Even in the situation that we in

713
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:45,280
now, I'm I'm gonna be skeptical
of you taking me into a fucking

714
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,320
tunnel.
I'm gonna be skeptical of going

715
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,640
into a a a old hospital with
you.

716
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,040
I'm gonna be skeptical of all of
these things that y'all just oh,

717
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,920
you wanna go in this weird,
scary hospital with me and look

718
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,360
for man Sure, let's go.
What?

719
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,600
Yeah.
Y'all don't have the discernment

720
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,720
that you had in the beginning
because you.

721
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,440
What it is is we've been at this
so long.

722
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,360
It's time that we we getting LAX
on our practices and the things

723
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,320
that we used to survive and get
us to where we at right.

724
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,320
Listen through all the.
Here's the other thing.

725
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,000
This is the thing that confused
me.

726
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,720
So Daryl, when they're going
through the camp and he's

727
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:26,600
looking and he's seeing the
condition of everybody, like,

728
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,040
oh, these people attacked
themselves.

729
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,240
When he pulls up the blanket and
he sees the the two intact gas

730
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:36,400
masks.
Why would you not pick those up

731
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,240
instead of being like oh we
gotta go, we gotta go.

732
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,520
Obviously if 'cause he probably
more than anything he he still

733
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,440
had clear minds, so of course
he's not think this is before

734
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,240
all the hallucinogens kicked.
In yes, but of course if she

735
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:56,560
mentioned it and you see that
these people all killed each

736
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,920
other, obvious.
I mean, I would just think that

737
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,880
you'd be like, let's take these
just in case.

738
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,080
Because even if it was only two
and it's five of them, they

739
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,560
could have gave the mass to
Carol and the girl and the man

740
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,400
could have just duped it out,
toughed it out.

741
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,600
But no.
But why would you not pick up

742
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,400
those masks?
And then you got to turn around

743
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,360
and go back for him and then you
almost get killed because now

744
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,320
there's only two masks and
everybody else is scattered.

745
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,640
Codrone has lost his mind
thinking you don't killed his

746
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,640
brother.
Now he's going after a Walker

747
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,880
that he thinks is his brother.
Carol's going after what she

748
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,680
thinks is Sophia.
So now you you're left with the

749
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:40,560
two people you know the least
who have no loyalty to you none

750
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,280
and whose loyalty are to each
other.

751
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,360
And they're like, oh, there's
three of us here.

752
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,800
There's only two gas masks.
Guess what?

753
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,800
Hate it for you, but I'm gonna
make sure my Boo get out before

754
00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:00,280
I make sure to get out.
I was just like, that's where

755
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,240
that lacks the.
Attitude.

756
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,320
It's gonna get y'all fucked up.
And I need them to stop.

757
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,320
I need them.
That's what that's right there

758
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,840
is where it's at right there.
I'm gonna just let y'all do what

759
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,000
cause how do you let this man
hit you and knock you out?

760
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,280
Knock you onto the ground?
I mean, and again, I understand

761
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,760
you're under, you're under
effects of, of this stuff

762
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,840
that's, that's making you
hallucinate, but your, your

763
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,200
Spidey senses should have been
tingling the minute you get to

764
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:40,040
that camp.
You should have been like, no,

765
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,120
let's turn around.
And, and I know, yes, the, the

766
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,560
only way out is through.
But given the situation and

767
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,600
given where they are and given
that you are walking into a, a,

768
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:56,560
a situation full of unknowns,
you don't know who is still left

769
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,560
in that tunnel.
You don't know anything about

770
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,960
these glow in the dark walkers
except for, oh, you know, some,

771
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,680
some plants and animals.
They have their own

772
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,520
bioluminescence.
You don't know that that's what

773
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,480
that is.
Remember, you are in a country

774
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,440
where they were experimenting on
shit.

775
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:18,560
You don't know what that stuff
does, but you just going to be

776
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,640
like, oh everybody, come on,
follow me single file, don't

777
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,280
make any noise where every
single step is making a noise.

778
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,600
That's where that LAX ass
relaxed ass oh I trust you and I

779
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,000
just met you 20 less than 24
hours ago yes I'll follow you

780
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,720
into the dark tunnel comes in.
Let me tell you this for.

781
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:47,560
Season 3 when they get to London
since it's just Darrell and

782
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,920
Carol now.
At least for right now that we

783
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,200
know 'cause we don't know where
the fuck could drone disappeared

784
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,360
to after this.
We don't know if he alive, if he

785
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,320
did, if he's still following the
Walker.

786
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,840
We don't know what's going on.
Darrell and Carol, I need y'all

787
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,440
to get your shit together.
I need y'all to go back to

788
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,160
basics because.
One-on-one.

789
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,640
Y'all gonna be stuck in Europe
forever at this rate.

790
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,200
Don't.
At this rate I need you to get,

791
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,520
you're not gonna find another
pilot, and you're damn sure

792
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,920
ain't gonna find another boat.
Well, you have more likelihood

793
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,800
of finding a boat.
Than you do than you would have

794
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,160
plane.
Yeah.

795
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,760
Look at this point y'all better
find a canoe and just roll your

796
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:35,080
ass back to America cause y'all
need to go back to basics and

797
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,520
y'all are not I.
I don't know what it is about

798
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,400
France.
Maybe it's the weather, maybe

799
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,440
it's the air, but y'all have not
been doing what you're supposed

800
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,120
to be doing since y'all got
here.

801
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,480
At all and y'all fucking up I'm
need them to get it together

802
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,960
very quickly right because at
this rate y'all not even gonna

803
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,760
make it home like this just The
Walking Dead friends edition

804
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,040
like if this because y'all.
Y'all y'all not making?

805
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,800
Smart decisions at all.
Not making smart safe decisions

806
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:13,120
or doing shit that's gonna have
y'all some most shit you just

807
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,160
got out of some shit.
Speaking of which, you don't

808
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,880
know shit.
Speaking of which, let's let's

809
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,560
just move that conversation on
to Carol, 'cause we got we got a

810
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,920
lot to unpack here.
And I really hate Michelle is

811
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,760
not here about this because she
was the one that was having the

812
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,280
biggest.
Carol, you should be over this.

813
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,040
We should not be still dealing
with this.

814
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,080
So we get a little bit more
insight into Carol's frame of

815
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,600
mind in this episode in regards
to Sophia.

816
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,000
And the big thing for her is she
doesn't remember what Sophia

817
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,080
looks like prior to her coming
out the barn.

818
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,080
And we have to think about this,
if this is, if the timeline is

819
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,280
right, it's been about, like we
said, anywhere from 11 to 13

820
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,080
years.
So Sophia has actually been dead

821
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,840
longer than she was alive at
this point, and that is

822
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,560
something that Carol has been
carrying.

823
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,600
And then of course, now you're
seeing all these reminders of

824
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,720
Sophia.
You know, you saw the girl at

825
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:17,000
the nest that kind of had on the
same type clothing as her and

826
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,440
just all of these different
reminders.

827
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,200
That's bringing it all back up.
And it really is because she's

828
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,480
never one.
She's never really properly

829
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:31,280
dealt with it.
Like I think she accepts what

830
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,280
happened, but at the same time,
I think there's still a little

831
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:40,520
piece of her that's still
holding on to Sophia as or

832
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,880
trying to hold on to her as
somebody alive.

833
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,600
And when you do that and you
start thinking about the stuff

834
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,040
that she that, that she went
through and how she might have

835
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,920
died and everything, all that's
going to do is keep opening up

836
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,440
that wound and keep opening up
that guilt.

837
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,120
Then as a parent for you to say,
I don't remember her face

838
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,840
anymore.
All I remember is what come out

839
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,160
came out of the barn.
Like I felt that your mother,

840
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,800
I'm a mother.
I felt that I understood that

841
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,440
grief.
That's, and especially in this

842
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,840
type of world, you don't have
pictures, you don't have

843
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,600
photographs, you don't have
anything, anything to remind you

844
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,160
of her.
There's no keepsakes, no

845
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,480
mementos.
You don't have a family home to

846
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,240
go back to at this point.
It's just all you have is what's

847
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:31,400
in your mind.
And when you have gone through

848
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,520
what Carol has gone through, the
trauma, the having to kill

849
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:42,560
people, the losing people, just
all of this stuff, I can see

850
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:49,360
where I I kind of get her in a
way that I didn't get her years

851
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,000
before.
Because at one point, especially

852
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,200
when she went to the king, when
she went to the Kingdom and she

853
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,000
was like, I'm done.
I'm not killing.

854
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,600
I'm just going to go live in
this house and be by myself and

855
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,800
read romance novels.
I was at that point in the show,

856
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,200
I was like, Carol just needs to
die.

857
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,280
I just, we don't have time for
this.

858
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,200
And then, you know, as the years
kind of went by, I was like, OK,

859
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,600
that's the wrong attitude to
have because you want people to

860
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,840
hold on to some of their
humanity, even in this type of

861
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,440
world.
And that's what Carol was

862
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,320
fighting to do.
And at the time, I was just

863
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,360
looking at it like, look, it's
fight or or die.

864
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,280
And no, you do have to hold on
to a little bit of of who you

865
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,840
are.
And so I understand her a little

866
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,880
bit more with this.
And then for her to have the

867
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,680
hallucinations that she had, she
thought she saw Sophia walking

868
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,160
into the service tunnel.
So then she gets into the

869
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,400
service tunnel, she still thinks
she sees Sophia.

870
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,840
And then she sees a Walker
version of herself.

871
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,080
I'm going to tell you, when I
saw that Walker version of

872
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,600
herself, I really thought Carol
was about to die.

873
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,600
I thought that was her accepting
her fate and she was going to be

874
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,960
like, OK, you know what?
I'm done.

875
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,880
I was like, if y'all gave us
this fucking season just to kill

876
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:07,240
her off.
And and then when she kind of

877
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:10,520
cleared up and the little girl
came to her and she, you know,

878
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,480
the little girl who was supposed
to be Sophia came to her and

879
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:18,120
kind of, you know, hugged her.
I really thought I said, OK,

880
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,720
she's embracing a Walker right
now.

881
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:23,080
She's about to get bit because I
thought it was kind of sort of

882
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,520
like what Tyrese was going
through before he died because,

883
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,240
you know, he was having all of
these different visions and, and

884
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,600
seeing things and hearing things
that weren't really there.

885
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,640
And then all of a sudden you're
getting bit by, you know, Noah's

886
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,680
little brother.
I really thought that's what was

887
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,440
about to happen to Carol.
I was like, oh.

888
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,280
She.
Thinks she's seeing Sophia.

889
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,960
Sophia is giving her a hug.
She feels like oh, my life is

890
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,080
complete.
I've seen my little girl again

891
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:52,960
and.
She's going to die.

892
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,760
I really thought that's how this
was about to end.

893
00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:00,120
I did the first two, but then I
was like, what?

894
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,080
Once you realize everybody else?
What made me realize that she

895
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,000
wasn't going to die is because
they were paralleling Darryl,

896
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,240
seeing Isabel with Carol sing
Sofia.

897
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,440
So to me, it was like for both
of those people, they had

898
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,760
goodbyes that they needed to
resolve.

899
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:27,600
And for me, that hallucination,
that dreamworld for them cleared

900
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,320
their mind of what they needed
to do in order to move from this

901
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,760
place, to go to the next place.
So that was like one of my

902
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,760
things with them, clearing up,
you know, storylines and and,

903
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:40,800
you know, getting finality on
some things, like Daryl finally

904
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,600
dealing with Isabel and letting
her go.

905
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,960
Yeah.
Finally dealing with Sophia and

906
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,000
really letting her go, you know,
letting her go in the sense of,

907
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,760
you know, I can go in a barn
without, you know, having

908
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,000
hallucinations and.
Yeah, like thing with Daryl and

909
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,160
Isabel, her telling him you're
not gonna die here like your

910
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,040
granddad did.
Get up.

911
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,840
Yeah.
We, we, we have to move from

912
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,800
this space.
That's what I got from both of

913
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,880
those, because they were
parallel in their realizations

914
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,480
and in their.
Closures, yeah, I got that too.

915
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,280
Once they did start going back
and forth, back and forth.

916
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:22,720
But at the beginning, when it
was just Carol, I was, I was, I

917
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:26,240
was like, well, it's been a nice
run.

918
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,280
I didn't think it was gonna
happen like this, but I'm, I'm

919
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:36,080
glad that she was able to see
what she needed to see to get

920
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,520
out of that.
So hopefully this will no longer

921
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,520
be an issue for her.
Like, she can finally let Sophia

922
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:49,840
rest in peace and she can kind
of forgive herself for because I

923
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,520
think a lot of it, too, is
survivor's guilt.

924
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,840
She's like, OK, my little girl
is gone, but I'm still here.

925
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,680
Like, even after everything, I'm
still here.

926
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,320
Like after all the times I've
given up, I'm still here.

927
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,920
After the time I almost walked
my ass off the Cliff, I'm still

928
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,880
here.
So I know there's a little bit

929
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,480
of that survivor's guilt.
So hopefully now she can, she

930
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:16,000
can be at peace with that and
can let that go and then.

931
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,760
She needed to let that one go in
order to let all the subsequent

932
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,240
ones go, because Sophia was the
1st.

933
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,720
And then you have Henry and you
have Lizzie and my and Mika and

934
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:34,800
Mika.
So Sophia was the original wound

935
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,760
for that.
Yeah.

936
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,880
So that's closed now.
Although, I mean, not saying

937
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,200
they heard any less or anything
like that, right.

938
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:46,640
But closing that wound?
We can now grow from that and

939
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,720
move on.
Yeah.

940
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,720
Yeah.
I'm saying that you just move on

941
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,160
from a child's death.
Not that's no.

942
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,160
But I mean, like, kind of like
Michelle said, it's been.

943
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,640
Yeah.
And then also, I think, you

944
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,640
know, I think a lot of times
when we think about characters

945
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,880
in fictional worlds and
especially in apocalypses, we

946
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:12,720
try to apply reason and logic
and emotion for our current day

947
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:15,640
and age to that kind of
situation.

948
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,120
And I just feel like, yeah, as a
parent, it's going to hurt you

949
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:25,680
if your if your child dies.
But also I, I feel like in that

950
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,920
type of world, you kind of have
to, I think deal with it

951
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:34,000
differently because it's not
like all your child just

952
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,120
unexpectedly died.
Like literally every second that

953
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,800
you live in this type of world,
anybody can die, you know?

954
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,560
And I think at at some point you
have to get to a point where you

955
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,920
have to let it go.
Because other than that, that

956
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,640
can kind of keep you from doing
what you need in order to keep

957
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,200
yourself, to keep other people
safe.

958
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,120
Like, there's nothing she can do
for Sophia now.

959
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,880
Sophia is done, gone.
All she can do is take the

960
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,920
mistakes that were made in that
situation.

961
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,080
Or maybe not even mistakes,
because who can say?

962
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,200
Nobody knows what happened to
Sophia for her to get where she

963
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,840
was.
Because technically speaking, if

964
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,760
she had hid in that little Cove
that Rick put her in, if she had

965
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,600
gotten into the corner and just
kind of stayed there, if a

966
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,160
Walker had gone past, I think it
would have gone past her because

967
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,080
one it she wasn't bleeding, so
it's not like it would have

968
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,840
smelled her blood.
She was in a swamp.

969
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,440
So it would have, it could have
covered her scent enough.

970
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,560
If she had just been quiet,
maybe not panicked, then she

971
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,520
could have been OK.
If she had stayed there until

972
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,560
Rick came back, she might have
still been alive.

973
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,880
Now, whether Walker found her
first, whether she panicked and

974
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,520
ran, we will never know.
So we don't know if there were

975
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,520
mistakes made or not.
But at this point, all you can

976
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:01,600
do is take whatever lessons you
can from that situation and move

977
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,080
forward with your life.
And I'm hoping that now she can

978
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,280
do that now that she has.
I think she can.

979
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,920
She has that now that she has
especially now that she has

980
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:17,360
remembered Sophia's face.
She's seen it now, you know, and

981
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,760
I think even though they got a
different actress to play, I

982
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,480
think they did a really good
job.

983
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:28,800
So yeah, I just now, now I need
you since you've you've had this

984
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,720
and you have this closure now I
need you to pack this up and put

985
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,920
it away and I need you to go
back to being Terminus Carol.

986
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:41,000
I need you to go back to to
having your wits about you and

987
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,200
questioning shit and not
trusting people and and do what

988
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,800
you need to do to get the fuck
home.

989
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,760
That part I agree.
And the same with Daryl.

990
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,360
I know that Daryl has some
guilt.

991
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,120
I know he felt bad.
It's like, especially at the

992
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,040
beginning of the episode, you
know, that little, that little

993
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,080
scene with him and Laurent
playing with the altitude guitar

994
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,080
and singing the song.
I think that was really sweet

995
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,560
'cause you don't really see
Daryl breakdown like that very

996
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,560
often, right?
And, you know, he's looking at

997
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,840
this little kid knowing he's
about to be separated from him,

998
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,520
knowing that there's a
possibility he may not see him

999
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,040
again, you know?
And he, I think he feels a

1000
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,680
little bit of guilt about that
too, because like Laurent said,

1001
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,080
everybody that he cares about
has pretty much died.

1002
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,960
And I think Darrell feels some
guilt about that.

1003
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,840
But I also think he was feeling
some sadness because he was

1004
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,480
like, OK, I'm about to send
y'all home and I still can't get

1005
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,280
there.
I'm still not going.

1006
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:48,240
And that's all I've been trying
to do for months and so now.

1007
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,080
OK.
But I think the resolve that

1008
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,960
Laurent is going to be OK is the
resolve that he had in the

1009
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:54,800
beginning.
Yeah.

1010
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,480
Like as long as you OK.
I'm bi.

1011
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,160
Yeah.
It'll be OK no matter what, long

1012
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,400
as I get you to a safe place and
make sure you know these people

1013
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:04,600
don't kill you.
I'm good.

1014
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,560
You know, they're a lot of kids.
He he does.

1015
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,600
Kids.
And that was the thing when he

1016
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,640
was when he was having a
conversation with Ash and Ash

1017
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,120
asked him if he had kids and he
was like, no, he thought maybe

1018
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,840
it's good, you know, blah, blah,
blah.

1019
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,560
And you know, cuz you don't have
anything to worry about.

1020
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,360
And there was like, I worry
plenty.

1021
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,320
Like you should have been like,
I don't have my own children,

1022
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,400
but I do have children that I
care for.

1023
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,280
But that's the other thing.
OK, so another part of the

1024
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,960
episode that I really, really
loved because I also said I

1025
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,080
think a couple episodes episodes
ago that I really wanted this.

1026
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,120
He and Cadrone actually had the
conversation.

1027
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,040
About his brother.
And Cadrone mentions his brother

1028
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,400
and when he said when he said
his brother's name, Michelle,

1029
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,520
Daryl looked at him like, I know
that name.

1030
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,560
And then so when he says you
never really told me how it

1031
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,200
happened when you killed
Michelle and there was like, I

1032
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,160
didn't kill him.
He said, what do you mean he

1033
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,720
said no?
The girl beat me to it.

1034
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,240
Cadrone's face was like, what
girl?

1035
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,680
I know you're not talking about
the girl that I left sitting on

1036
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,880
the on on the side of the street
alive.

1037
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,520
And Lego right and let go.
And there was like, yes, skinny

1038
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,200
little girl on the road.
She was with an old man who

1039
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,200
tricked me into thinking he was
blind.

1040
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:24,880
And control was like, hold up,
hold up.

1041
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,120
She told me you killed him.
And there was like, would you

1042
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:33,720
expect her to tell you?
You have this realization for

1043
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,720
Cadrone.
And I was like, oh, when he

1044
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,360
finally gets a chance to like,
really sit down and think about

1045
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,360
this, it's going to hit him hard
because he said so.

1046
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:49,080
You mean that everything that I
have done since Marseille, the

1047
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:56,160
Abbey, the nest, everything that
I have done was because of a lie

1048
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,040
she told me?
And I said yeah, bro, you got

1049
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,160
some reckoning to do because you
went in and killed nuns.

1050
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,800
Yes.
Over a lie.

1051
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,440
Over a lie.
And I mean even if it wasn't a

1052
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,280
lie you went in and you killed
nuns, you could have went in

1053
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,120
there.
You know if you had to get

1054
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,600
violent you could have beat them
up a little bit, tried to get

1055
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,120
some information out of them and
you could have left them on

1056
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,160
their way so that they can they
can heal and and recover.

1057
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:29,720
But no, y'all literally machine
gun down some nuts just for you

1058
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,480
to find out that the person you
have been hell bent on killing

1059
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,920
this whole time didn't actually
kill your brother.

1060
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,200
Didn't even do it.
Now, the thing about that

1061
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,360
conversation that I wish they
could have added a little more

1062
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,560
nuance to it, and I think it
would have also helped them bond

1063
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,640
a little bit more, was when he
talked about how protective he

1064
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:57,520
was of his brother and how hard
it was to see him like that and

1065
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:02,360
having to put it into him, He
said, you know, it's almost like

1066
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:07,240
you lose a piece of yourself.
And there was response was I can

1067
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:11,240
imagine, no shit, Sherlock, you
had to do the same thing to you.

1068
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,880
I can't imagine, you know
exactly what he do.

1069
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,480
And so I wish that that that
could have been added to the

1070
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,320
conversation because I think
that would have been a little

1071
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:24,080
bit more like Darrell could have
told him I would not do that to

1072
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,040
somebody else because I've had
to live through that.

1073
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,560
I had to do that to my I had.
To do that, but yes.

1074
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,520
You know, I would have.
I wouldn't like that, but you

1075
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,600
know, I guess it works for for
what they are because it's not

1076
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,440
like we're we're looking for
them to become best friends.

1077
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,760
Because John was just basically
like, OK, I'm still going to

1078
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,320
help you guys, but I need to
know what happened between you

1079
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,560
and my brother.
And for him to hear that truth.

1080
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:49,680
I know that that was what he
needed.

1081
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:54,040
But, you know, we kind of added
a little bit more into that,

1082
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:58,960
especially since Darryl doesn't
really get to talk about Merle

1083
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,360
very often.
But also too, I thought it was

1084
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,360
kind of poetic that Cujrone said
something about that.

1085
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,560
He was like, you know, when you
have to do something like that,

1086
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,640
it's like you're killing a piece
of yourself or you're losing a

1087
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,120
piece of yourself.
And if you think about it, when

1088
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:19,880
Daryl had to do that tomorrow,
he lost that last little tie of

1089
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,160
his old self and who he was in
the old world.

1090
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,520
And that's when he fully, fully
became a part.

1091
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,160
Of the group.
Like pride or die, I'm I'm with

1092
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,320
y'all all the way.
But he didn't have nobody else.

1093
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,240
He had to.
I mean, he didn't have to.

1094
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,360
But at that point, he who, who
was left, he everybody he loved

1095
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:39,800
was gone.
Yeah.

1096
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,720
His brother was the only thing
he had.

1097
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,240
Even though his brother was a
racist asshole.

1098
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,440
He my brother.
Yeah, yeah.

1099
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,640
Because even when he left Merle
in the in the in the forest and

1100
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,760
and went to go back to the
group, that's still his brother.

1101
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,240
Yeah, he's had to tell him a
little bit about himself, but

1102
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,240
instead his brother.
He still loves his brother.

1103
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,480
Yeah, yeah.
So that would have been a nice

1104
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:10,520
touch.
But yeah, overall, like I said,

1105
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,920
I did like the episode.
They were just, they're just

1106
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,320
things about the characters that
are starting to Earth me because

1107
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,480
I feel like there's certain
things they're doing that are

1108
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:23,480
not characteristic of them.
And when we go into Season 3,

1109
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,840
going into London, which is
where supposedly is, is better

1110
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,480
in England.
But again, the two, I can't even

1111
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,280
remember the Fiona Angus, I
think that with their names,

1112
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,880
they were talking about how
things were so much better in

1113
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,440
London because, you know, the
police there got hold of

1114
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,920
everything quick.
They shut everything down quick.

1115
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:46,800
But how long have you been in
Paris?

1116
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,400
How do you know it's still the
same?

1117
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:53,280
I mean, it very well could be.
It very well could be the tunnel

1118
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,120
was a.
Sign that y'all don't know the

1119
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:01,160
tunnel was a sign that they
don't know you don't because

1120
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,920
them they they, they've been
there in that tunnel for a

1121
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,400
little minute.
They've been a little.

1122
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,760
Bit just a little bit yes, they
mean it.

1123
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:13,200
So I I wouldn't take faith in
what the hell they said no, but

1124
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:18,680
you also, but also like if you
think about it, we don't know

1125
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:23,600
how much communication there has
been between the States and

1126
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,800
other countries since this is
falling because a lot of the

1127
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,760
communications have been two way
radios which those are not very

1128
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,200
long range the the common not
the Commonwealth.

1129
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:39,880
The CRM may have been in touch
with other other countries and

1130
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:44,160
I'm sure the people who were
coming for Madam Janay's group

1131
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:48,800
when they were coming over to to
the port, I'm sure they had some

1132
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,120
kind of communication.
But other than that, we don't

1133
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,000
know what's going on in anywhere
of the rest of the world.

1134
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,520
So London could be thriving
right now.

1135
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,480
They could have just cut
themselves off from everyone and

1136
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,840
been like, fuck y'all, we're
safe, we're good.

1137
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,000
And once they figured out what
was going on with the rest of

1138
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,960
the world, they probably, you
know, do the same thing that our

1139
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,920
group does.
When someone dies, you stake

1140
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,480
them in the head, you burn the
bodies or you burn them or

1141
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,440
whatever.
They're probably doing that.

1142
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:21,520
They could be, or they could be
walking into a total wasteland.

1143
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:28,480
We just don't know.
But at least Daryl and Carol are

1144
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:34,480
together, the dynamic duo.
So I have a feeling they can

1145
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,000
handle whatever is coming their
way.

1146
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,160
But like I said, only if they
remain.

1147
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,840
Yeah, they got to go back to
basics.

1148
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,560
They got to go back to basics.
And I understand in this type of

1149
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,480
world, especially this many
years, and yes, you do need to

1150
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,600
have allies.
You do need to build trust with

1151
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,800
people.
You do need to build community,

1152
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:59,360
especially for for people like
them who are so far away from

1153
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,720
anything and everything that
they know.

1154
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,840
But I just need you to be a
little more cautious now and.

1155
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,680
That that's even goes so back as
far as to when they were in

1156
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:16,479
Greenland.
You just could remember, look at

1157
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:21,720
Carol entering Alexandria and
then look at Carol here.

1158
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:26,479
Is she the same girl?
Like where is that chameleon

1159
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,279
that we're so used to?
Right.

1160
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:33,720
You're just so trusting.
Like you let a stranger she.

1161
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,240
She played the chameleon pretty
good, trying to infiltrate, you

1162
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,720
know, Madame Jenae's, you know,
that whole situation.

1163
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,680
But you can man.
You had to go through that, you

1164
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,120
know?
Yeah, like you let this this

1165
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:54,640
virtual stranger get hold of of
the crossbow and then pointed at

1166
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:59,600
your ass, huh?
So yeah, let's not do that

1167
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,240
anymore.
At all do.

1168
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:04,200
That anymore like y'all making
stupid mistake y'all making.

1169
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,720
First season mistakes.
Yeah, yeah.

1170
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:15,439
So it was a good, Yeah, it was a
good episode.

1171
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,920
Had lots of emotional moments,
had some very well deserved

1172
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:25,439
deaths and Laurent got away,
which is a good thing.

1173
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,080
So I don't know if we're going
to see Laurent next season,

1174
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,240
unless I don't.
I don't think they have been

1175
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:36,880
renewed for Season 4 yet, so
maybe Season 3 will be the end

1176
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,479
and we can see Darrell and
Laurent reunite at the end of

1177
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,520
that.
Darrell and Rick.

1178
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,120
I know, I know.
I that's that goes without

1179
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,880
saying.
That goes without saying.

1180
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:47,920
I'm saying.
Though.

1181
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,479
Here's my question now.
So what is season 3 going to be

1182
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,319
called?
Because season 1 was Daryl

1183
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:56,040
Dixon.
Season 2 was the book of Carol.

1184
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,600
OK, we don't need a Book of
Carol for the third season

1185
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,200
because they're both together.
It'll be Daryl Dixon.

1186
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,000
Going home?
I don't know.

1187
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:12,720
It's got to be something.
Oh, Daryl Dixon, the return

1188
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:18,080
returning home.
Oh, OK, OK, OK.

1189
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,560
I I.
Can or Or it could be Daryl

1190
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,600
Dixon, Carol and Dale besties
forever.

1191
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,960
You know, no, because they
already have a long, they

1192
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:32,840
already have a long ass title
like The Walking Dead, Colon,

1193
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,400
Daryl Dixon, Colon, The Book of
Carol.

1194
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:40,200
Like really, really, can we
condense this?

1195
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,320
Can we?
It's going to be the book of

1196
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,960
going home.
That's what I'm saying.

1197
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,520
Going home, Daryl Dixon, going
home, Daryl Dixon the home, go

1198
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:53,760
home, going home, homecoming,
whatever, the reunion, whatever,

1199
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,800
whatever.
I just need y'all to go home at

1200
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:01,560
this point.
So this is it for season 2.

1201
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,200
We got season 3 coming, which I
think you'll probably I'm hoping

1202
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,680
it'll come around fall because
the Darrell Dixon show has been

1203
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,720
good about these about turning
around and and getting us the

1204
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:17,760
next season because it was only
literally first season was

1205
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,920
released fall of 2023.
Second season was released fall

1206
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,720
of 2024.
So I'm hoping that means that

1207
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,760
we'll get the third season, fall
of 20, the fall of this year,

1208
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,600
because they were already
filming Season 3 while Season 2

1209
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:37,400
was on the air.
Oh, OK, Yeah, 'cause they were

1210
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:42,040
filming in Madrid, OK.
So then we got to figure out how

1211
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,440
you getting from London to
Spain.

1212
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:47,440
Well, I don't know if they're
actually going to Spain or if

1213
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:53,440
they just used Spain as the
yeah, as the location, but they

1214
01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:56,680
could be filming in Spain and
saying that it's it's London.

1215
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,640
I mean, it wouldn't be unheard
of.

1216
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,000
That's true.
How many places, how many places

1217
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:06,520
actually originated here in
Atlanta with our film industry?

1218
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:14,520
So, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So it could be, but you have

1219
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,920
anything final to say about this
episode?

1220
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,880
Nope.
I'm glad they wrapped up all the

1221
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,080
little stories.
We don't have no loose ends.

1222
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,440
Yeah, we don't have none of
that.

1223
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:26,000
We, we, we they left everybody
in a good place.

1224
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,840
Where we not going to be
questioning what happened after.

1225
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,520
Yeah.
'Cause Sabine ain't coming after

1226
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,000
them in France, in England, she
she's done for.

1227
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,200
Lou has no reason for Lou might
come and visit them, You know,

1228
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,320
maybe him and Akila will find
her sister and then they'll be

1229
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:45,760
like, oh, let's go to England.
So or maybe Daryl and Carol will

1230
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,600
find her sister and be like, oh,
we met your sister.

1231
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,760
Yeah, let's go back to no, let's
not go back to France.

1232
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:51,800
No, they're not going to go back
to.

1233
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,400
France, Yeah.
We need to find, we need to find

1234
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,720
a pigeon and get a message that
to your sister that you are

1235
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,280
alive.
OK.

1236
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,280
OK.
So that's it for Daryl Dixon.

1237
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:08,760
We have Dead City coming up,
supposedly sometime this spring.

1238
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:14,360
We've seen a couple of trailers.
It looks interesting enough.

1239
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:19,040
I'm going to reserve my, my
comments and my, my thoughts

1240
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:25,720
because we were a little
disappointed in the first season

1241
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:31,480
and how they kind of took
Maggie's character and you know,

1242
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,880
basically what the, what, what
the storyline was.

1243
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,880
So we're going to see what it's
like.

1244
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,560
We're going to, we're going to
hold off judgement and we're

1245
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,120
going to go in with an open mind
because this is still The

1246
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,200
Walking Dead.
These are still characters we

1247
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,720
love.
We just need our characters to

1248
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:52,520
get back to the people that they
are or to do the shit that they

1249
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,360
supposed to be doing.
Swear to God.

1250
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,560
So on that note, that is it for
our show.

1251
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,280
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1252
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,280
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1253
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,120
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1254
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,480
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1255
01:14:09,480 --> 01:14:12,240
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1256
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,720
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1257
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,720
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