The Wheel of Time S2E2 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #340

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Anthony and Mike, and we
are discussing Season 2, episode

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2 of The Wheel of Time in which
we finally get to see what Ran

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has been up to in the six months
since he was.

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At.
The eye of the world.

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And my question is, how about
who?

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This woman, who is she?
I don't know.

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There's there's something about
Celine where even the first time

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she appears on screen, I'm like,
I don't like her.

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There's something not right
about her.

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There's something off about her.
I don't trust her.

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Nope.
And not at all.

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Not at all.
She's she's 100% sleeper agent.

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She's gonna fuck his shit up.
Absolutely.

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I have.
To be doing something 'cause I

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don't, I don't know, something
about that just don't seem right

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to me.
She.

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Pitting it on them for Sarah.
For show.

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For show No.
I I guess, but I.

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Don't even know he remembered
Who Who equine.

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Is no.
He remembers because he says as

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much in this one.
When she was like, who are you

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thinking of when you were with
me?

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He was like someone I wish I
could forget.

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Never.
Be exactly fucking simp.

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OK.
But OK, going back to what Mike

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said when we discussed the first
episode.

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OK, my I I know I was giving you
a hard time, but OK, it's one

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thing to do the buzz cut and you
still got the red hair.

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Like like I said, he's he's in
another part of the world.

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Maybe that's not that
noticeable, but you using your

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same fucking name like like
folks ain't gonna be looking for

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you red headed rands.
Do you think there are in the

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world?
Right.

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He basically he basically pulled
a Sean TA Sean T Sean T Sean

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thing is like really?
They don't have social.

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You don't have a Facebook page,
you don't have social media.

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We don't have these things, but.
They have word of mouth which is

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very effective in this world.
Nobody knows anybody from the

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Three Rivers, so he can walk
around saying my name is rammed

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all day long.
They don't know.

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Good.
But there are people looking for

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him and we like, we don't know.
The the the I started looking

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for him right, But remember it
the the number of people who

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actually know why they would be
looking for him is small.

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If they're not going to go
around announcing and posting

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everywhere that if if the acid I
are looking for a man, it's

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probably a man who could
channel.

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Because it's not like it's not
like the acid.

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I hide who they are, like they
are very noticeable wherever

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they are.
But the what's his name Ishmael

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might have someone looking for
him, you know, and have his his

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dark friends or have, you know,
other people they might be

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looking for.
I have a feeling Ishmael knows

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exactly where that motherfucker
is at all times.

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He might, but I was just like.
I'm just letting you know he

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knows where that movie is all
the time.

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Dark Mother Yeah, because.
Because all dark motherfuckers

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have feelers out.
They always have.

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Move have people here, people
there.

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They have they have certain ways
of finding stuff, whether

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they're possessing Ravens that
fly over and they can see what

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they see or whether it's like
that.

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It was like The Last of Us where
they have like have have roots

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in the ground.
They could put their hand down

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and feel what the hell is going
on and see things.

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It's like the dark villains in
fantasy always have some kind of

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way to keep track of everything
and find people and they're

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always outstandingly successful.
It's like a 90% success rate,

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99, five percent success rate of
finding people.

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I have a.
Ishmael literally said I can't

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remember if this this episode
and maybe the last episode, he

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says.
I don't.

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Think we saw him in this
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Yeah.
We did at.

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The end at the end.
OK.

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Did we see him in the 1st
episode?

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Yes, they had that meeting, the
meeting at the with with all the

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other people in Pat and fame was
at the meeting and somebody.

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Where we thought the place to
feed the little girl to the

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monster.
Maybe that was where he said ran

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things he can hide.
Oh yeah.

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Yeah, he 'cause he knows.
Can't hide you.

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Can't hide from him, that girl,
probably one of his.

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I don't know.
Some something just seems so off

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about her.
I don't know.

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I have.
A question too.

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Yes, I'm to the point where I'm
like, you're on the run because

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you found out that you are the
Dragon Reborn.

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I understand people have needs,
but you don't need to be

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developing no kind of
relationship with nobody right

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now.
Period.

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Man wants what man wants.
I have a question.

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OK, so in Carehine where he he's
doing the caretaking thing and

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looking after the people.
OK, first it's like an insane

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asylum, but are these all men
that have tried to tap into the

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force?
No.

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I think it's just just a regular
asylum.

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Yeah, OK.
Second of all, at the end he

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gets to see that what's his
name?

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Who got beat up?
Logan.

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Logan, yeah.
Did he?

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I can't remember if he saw if
they, if they like he.

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He wasn't there when they were
fighting, was he?

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No, but he saw them bring.
Didn't he see them bring?

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He saw them bring them into the
into Tarbalan.

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Yeah, yeah.
That's what I was saying.

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Like he's seen him.
I'm like and I I don't know.

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And I think he knows who he who
he is based on conversations

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that probably I'm I'm trying to
remember because the first

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season was so long ago.
But I'm sure Moraine probably

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said something.
And of course, you know, he was

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being paraded through the city
as the false dragon, right?

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So given if you're the false
dragon, that means you're a a

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man who can channel at least
what from what we've seen and

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what we've heard, especially
with stuff that Leandron has

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said, and they basically take
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So Rand would have known enough
to be like, oh, what is man can

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channel?
Or at least he could channel

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before the sisters got to him.
But.

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But the problem, though, I think
Mike may be feeling it, but sort

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of on the subconscious level, is
that they told Lil Gang that

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they were going to lock him up
in the basement until he's poked

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and prodded and studied until
the end of his days.

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How did he end up?
How did he end up out here in?

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This I do have a question about
that too, because I can't.

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Remember, he's supposed to be
locked up.

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Yeah.
But also, I think when they said

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they were going to lock him up,
this was before he was what What

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is it called when they take the
power, when they're gentle or.

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Still.
OK, so I think it was before

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that.
So maybe once they took the

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power from him and he can't do
anything, there's really nothing

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they can.
They can study right because

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there's nothing left.
If I have the if I have a desire

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to go back and watch that part
of the season when I would.

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But if not.
So I'll just take your word for

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it.
Yeah.

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But either way, I I still think
that they would keep him though,

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because, you know, at the time
he was able to raise a fairly

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sizable army on his own.
And you wouldn't really want to

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risk him getting out or, you
know, doing something else.

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But that's the idea.
Does the ceiling the ceiling

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take your memory too?
Stealing.

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No.
No, it doesn't.

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But you know him being he.
Remembers everything that

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happened.
Yeah, he does.

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I mean.
For him being a man that can

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channel slowly, he's going to,
he's going to eventually go

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crazy.
So which is probably why they

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have him in the asylum.
They're like, OK, you know what,

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this is something that's bound
to happen.

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We might as well go ahead and
just kind of lock him away, put

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him away from everything because
I don't know, maybe they figure

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if they have him far away enough
that he won't have an effect on

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anybody.
But OK, let's go back to the

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Rand.
Wait.

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Wait, hold, but hold on though
he he was stilled.

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He's he's not going to go crazy
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That's that's why they gentle
them steal them because they

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can't this this the the tank
cannot make him crazy now so.

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He's as.
Crazy as he's going to be.

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OK, OK.
He's not going to get any worse.

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OK.
That's why they.

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Yeah.
So he has to actively have the

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the one power in him.
He has to be actively touching.

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It OK, OK in order for OK.
And and they can't.

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And shielding doesn't help
because he he still because once

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you stop the shield he can touch
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And.
They don't have the ability to

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maintain Shields that long
without getting tired.

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OK.
So yeah, which is why they had

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to, it had to be like three of
them at one time, trying to

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shield him when they had him.
OK OK, so going back to Rand

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real quick and his lack of
anonymity.

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So here it is again.
Red hair going by your name.

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He can't be too far from
Tarbulan because the fucking

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False Dragon is in the same
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So it's not like he went all the
way across the country where

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nobody could ever find him.
All that I said I have to do is

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say, hey, we're going to go back
and get low gain.

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And there Randy's like, he's
not.

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For someone who's supposed to be
dead, who told Moraine to tell

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his friends that he died, He's
not doing a very good job of

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just trying to be under the
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Again, they don't know.
First of all, all they know is

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she had three boys from the
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They don't.
They don't really know his name.

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They may not really know what he
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You understand what?
I'm saying his friends know what

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he looked like his.
Friends do, but they think he's

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dead.
So they, you know, we discount

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them.
And actually at this point, they

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have probably gotten reports.
Marines, probably they got spies

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everywhere.
They probably all think this

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dude is dead.
One of the three of his boys is

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dead anyway.
But I'm I'm just saying that the

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amount of information that we
have is way more than a lot of

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the characters in the show have.
They don't have all this

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information.
So he can have pretty big lack

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of anonymity because they don't
know his name.

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Yeah, I would just feel.
And right now it's just a rumor

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because Rain ain't saying shit
to nobody about it.

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I don't know.
I guess I would just say at

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least use a different name.
Use a name like Matt.

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Matt is not conspicuous.
You know what I'm saying?

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It's just like Matt can be a
common name.

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Rand.
Rand is not a common name.

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I'm trying to give him a more
creative than they deserve.

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That's Mike's job.
That's what Mike usually does.

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I'm on the wrong side of this.
I'm going to go back to the

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other side.
This is all bullshit.

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They need to fix all this crap.
As a book reader, it's already

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hard, man.
As a book reader trying to give

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them the benefit of the doubt,
it's even harder because some of

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the stuff they do and some of
the decisions they make, this

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don't make any sense to me.
OK, so let's talk about it

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because you said something
before we hit the record button

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about I, I don't think you
really care for the episode too

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much.
So what's going on as a book

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reader?
I will say this episode was

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slightly better than the first
one because they got some things

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kind of cooking.
They hit some book things, but I

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feel like they just did it
because there were things that

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happened in the book, but they
were much more significant than

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for, for example, the Fade being
strung up on the wall right in

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the village.
Before that, we parent walking

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into the room and having the
vision thing that we talked

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about last time.
Well in the book it was ran

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because in the book Rand is with
them chasing after the horn of a

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Lear.
Ah.

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OK.
Oh, oh, oh, yeah.

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But he's the one that walks in
there and has a vision.

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OK.
Not Parent.

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So OK so y'all want to do this
special thing for parent?

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In the book there's another
character who actually does this

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and they've mashed them up with
Elias.

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Not only they mashed the other
character up with Elias, they

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also gave a parent and Elias
that dudes power that wasn't one

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of the.
Who is Elias is that?

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That's a wolf, brother.
The.

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The oh, OK, OK.
Yeah, so there's another carrier

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called Sniffer, and that's what
he does.

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He's he can tell what happened.
He can smell, he can smell where

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fights have happened and he can
kind of figure out they've given

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that to the IT has nothing, so
do it.

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It's going to be interesting to
see how they try to make this

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together.
But I guess they thought that

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was a cool thing in the book.
Let's just give it to these guys

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because it's somewhat makes
sense.

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OK.
That being said, it's just,

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yeah, I, I don't know.
It's hard to put it in the

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words.
It was another scene that was

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very interesting.
Well, before we move on, I want

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to touch on something you just
mentioned because it was a it

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was kind of a, not necessarily a
debate we had with the last

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episode.
But in this episode, I think

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they make it very clear that
Perrin is seeing visions of what

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has happened in the past.
And it's not just the

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assumption, he is actually
seeing what has.

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Transpired.
Which is weird because that's

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not, and I really hate doing it.
That's not something from the

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book, because in the book, Rand
is the one that walks in there.

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Rand would actually have the
ability to do that.

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OK?
That's how powerful he is.

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OK, so would you say that he's
fair Voyant?

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Yeah, I guess.
I saw that on Mike screen that I

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love like.
Exactly.

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You saw, you knew it was coming.
I'm glad we can have a

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clairvoyant werewolf on here and
and like.

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He's not a werewolf.
According to Anthony.

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He's not a werewolf.
But I do find it interesting

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that the guy keeps referring to
keep saying stuff about a pack.

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A pack a pack, right?
Like a wolf.

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I'm thinking maybe they're going
to This is speculation.

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This is not, This is speculation
I kind of alluded to before.

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I'm thinking they're going to do
like, because, you know, there's

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these theories about wolves
having like a group memory, kind

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of like a hive mind.
Yeah, that maybe there were

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wolves around when this happened
and he would have access to

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those wolves memories.
But that's good.

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I don't know, because a lot of
very specifically said to him,

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you know, there's a difference.
You know, it's good to be able

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to tell between a vision and
reality.

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So I think they are very clearly
trying to say that parent has

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visions kind of like but he has
visions of the past where as

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men, you know who we met last
season, she has visions of the

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future.
So I think they are very clearly

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saying this is what 1 of parents
skill sets is for the show.

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I know I'm.
Just saying it doesn't make any.

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Sense I know, but you know.
What make any sense?

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But I think at this.
Point, and the only way I can

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make it make sense for me is
that he's accessing memories

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that the wolves are aware of.
Or it or it may be that you have

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to you have to turn off that
what happens in the book part of

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your brain because.
We've jumped that, we've jumped

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off that train a long.
Time.

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Yeah.
What did I tell you?

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They said 85% of this is
made-up.

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Yeah, Only 15% of this is from
the book.

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Yeah.
So I called.

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Never mind.
You know what?

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I call it bullshit is what I
call it.

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But well, it could be one of
those.

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I forgot what show I saw
recently.

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And fiction.
And it was like inspired by such

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and such.
So I was like, OK, so they're

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taking some things from it, but
they're not taking all the

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stores that I kind of think this
is what this is.

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With the showrunner say was it's
just another turning of the

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wheel.
OK, dude.

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They're taking a statue of
liberties with all this and

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they're doing.
That I mean yeah they are

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because if all these people
visions are not something that

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is common right among people.
So now it's it was OK when you

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had men because that's what she
that's what she can do visions.

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But if you start giving parents
the ability to do visions, we

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already got stuff that he's got
to be able to do that we got the

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body into.
If y'all want to say that this

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is going to be a part of that,
sure, you know, sure, I'll, I'll

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bite.
He can see he got visions of the

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past even though we have no
basis of foundation for why

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someone like him would have that
ability.

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Or even the liars.
But he has like really vivid.

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I mean, they were so good that
he he did this vision started

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when he was outside of the
building.

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Like he heard the woman outside
of the building and thought that

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she was inside.
It's not like he saw her.

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It's.
No, he he saw somebody, he saw

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somebody close the window or he
thought he saw somebody close

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the window.
So he did see something.

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Yeah, but it's like, I mean his
visions were just like crystal

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like for him crystal clear.
And it's like I'm thinking is, I

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mean, this could be could he?
He could still not be the

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dragon, but still be channeling
and this could.

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This could prove to be a
problem.

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This could I could I could see
this.

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Stop.
He's not channeling this.

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Stop.
No, see, I'm just.

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I'm just.
Saying I could see this driving

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him crazy if it, if it, if he,
if he doesn't get control of it.

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Yeah, I don't, I don't think
he's he's channeling, no.

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I'm I'm telling you.
That has something that has

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something to do with the other
stuff, the the wolf, the the

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wolf stuff.
And yeah, yeah.

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Because the, the thing that I
can buy that, you know, they're

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kind of doing a disservice to
how influential the creator is

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with the wheel.
And I can buy the fact that

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since he's Tavirian, which they
had explained it before, they

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had really explained it as a
Tavirian, they can sometimes see

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echoes in the wheel.
And that way if you say that he

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is actually, as a Tavirian, is
able to see echoes in the wheel,

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then that would make sense.
But because Elias has the same

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problem, it doesn't really work
that way, you know what I'm

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saying?
Because then you if Elias is to

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Verren, you've already made
Naive and Gwen to Verren.

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You don't have all these to
Verrens walking around.

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Then you kind of dilute it and
it's not as important as it

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should be.
Does that make sense?

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Yeah.
And I think even even more so

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with the fact that, like you
said, they haven't really

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explained to us what that is.
What being Tavirin, is it

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Tavirin, Tavirin?
Yeah, they haven't even really

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explained to us what that is.
So it's kind of like, OK, I, I

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mean, it would be one thing if
we got an explanation in the

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first season kind of in the
midst of all this, but we're now

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in Season 2 and we still don't
know what that means.

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But y'all are giving us the
traits and and the I guess kind

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of like the descriptors so.
It's only going to become

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important for the writers when
it's important for the story

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they're trying to tell.
OK, that that's, I think that's

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what's going to happen.
OK, OK, all right, well, let's

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move on to to some other stuff
in the episode.

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I will say this Moraine is still
getting on my nerves because the

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way she has been with LAN and
again I get it she's trying to

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push him away she's but oh she
is grating my nerves like this

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man almost died trying to
protect you and you still got

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the nerve to treat him like
trash to say harsh things to him

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and to so just she's getting on
my nerves.

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She's trying to she's trying to
drive, she's trying to save him.

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It's like that's all it is.
It's like she's trying to drive

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him away so that he doesn't
sacrifice himself for her.

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Like she doesn't want him to
have any be any primary parts of

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this is like she's on a mission
to kill herself and she doesn't

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or I think that's probably it
too.

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She's she's done.
She's like, I'm I'm trying.

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This is probably gonna end me
and that's fine.

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I don't want Land trying to save
me and getting killed himself.

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She's still getting on my
nerves.

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I think she getting on the
sister's nerves too, because

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when I when I say Varon, Varon
just has this very calm way

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about her.
You know, she's like very, very

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much the opposite of her sister.
But Varon is sitting there

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talking to her and she's she's
like, yeah, you didn't three

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phase coming after you.
She was like, you didn't think

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we were going to ask questions
about what that was about.

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I have a feeling it has to be
one of the boys that you brought

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from, you know, from the Two
Rivers.

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And Moraine is sitting there
with her, her hand on her knife

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there and is like, OK, she was
like, that's close enough, but I

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just want to see how far you
were going to go to protect the

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dragon.
OK?

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I was like, you know what?
There was looking at her like,

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yeah, I'm talking to you all
nice and calm, but pull that

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knife if knife if you want to.
I was like I'm I I want to see

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the showdown because I think
they all have gotten to the

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point they're like, OK, you know
what we understand you've lost

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your power.
You have kind of lost your way,

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but you are bringing fades to
our doorstep.

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You are doing this.
You are doing that you keep a

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secrets.
OK, you know what this bullshit

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in a stop because now you're
putting other people in you

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putting other people at risk.
And I understand you have your

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mission and whatever you
supposed to be doing for the

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dragon, but I even needed you to
ease ease up off my boy.

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I mean, I guess she has no
choice but to do that now

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because she doesn't send Alana
and her warders to come and take

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him back to the White Tower.
I mean, she was the one that was

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banished from the White tower,
not him, right?

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I mean, technically speaking,
he's her warder, so he I guess

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he would be banished with her.
But if the bond is not there.

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Oh, they wouldn't.
Because she made, she made the

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oath, not him.
Well, she was there.

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I think there's some funny stuff
going on with the way 'cause

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even Varian said, well, there's
loopholes and every oath.

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And if anyone knows about
loopholes, it's it's going to be

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a ring.
Because she hasn't lied and she

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has misled people.
Right.

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But even when she made the oath
to the ambulance seat, whatever

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it was that the ambulance seat
said to her, she didn't repeat

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that word for word.
She said something.

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Yeah.
So yeah.

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Because what did she say?
Or she told Land that Rand is

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Rand is alive.
He's like July, she's like, no,

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you assume.
You assume what she said was

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what she said was.
Rand is gone.

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Rand.
Is.

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Gone.
Rand is gone.

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And I, I peeped that when she
said it, when he came to her,

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she said Rand is gone.
I said, ah, I noticed she didn't

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say Rand is dead because Rand
was the one who was like tell

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them I died here Brand, you know
she can't lie.

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But saying he's gone, yeah a lot
of people take that word gone

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and they assume that means dead.
And it's been 6 months, y'all

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ain't saying hide nor hair of
them.

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So why would he think otherwise?
And you see why regular people

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don't trust I said.
I Yeah, even though everybody

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knows they can't lie.
But you don't believe a word

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they say.
Yeah, because they obviously can

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00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,400
can skirt around the truth, so.
And I think that's the only

452
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,640
thing that I was thinking about
when she was when she was kind

453
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,760
of telling Rand off.
I mean, land off towards the end

454
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,760
when she was like, yeah, you
were supposed to protect me and

455
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,280
you failed and blah, blah, blah.
And what did he say to her?

456
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,040
He said, just tell me that.
He said we were never equals.

457
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,200
Were we?
Just tell me that and I'll

458
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,920
leave.
And she was like, we were never

459
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,880
equals.
I was like, I don't think she

460
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,320
feels that, but she does it.
Huh.

461
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,880
She does Well, OK.
She's telling the truth because

462
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:46,200
he's a king, and she is.
She's from a house that has sort

463
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,720
of fallen.
OK, so that's what that's what I

464
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,000
meant.
I didn't mean to say it.

465
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,120
As in like she doesn't think
that they're equals.

466
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:56,240
As in she's a butt, she's higher
than him.

467
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,000
I think she thinks the opposite.
But of course, she's not going

468
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,600
to clarify that to him because
she's trying to hurt him and

469
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,040
make him leave.
So what's the best way to do

470
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,680
that?
Oh, we were never on equal

471
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,840
footing.
Yeah, no, we weren't on equal

472
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,600
footing.
He's automatically going to

473
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,480
think that as she thinks she's
better than him.

474
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,240
So.
But when I saw it, I was like,

475
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,680
yeah, you ain't telling the
truth on this one.

476
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,680
I was like you telling it the
way he means to hear it but

477
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,760
still say his.
Full royal government name this

478
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,840
full Really.
Very last syllable of it.

479
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,120
Like damn.
Right, but.

480
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,680
Acknowledging the fact that he
was a king.

481
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:45,440
Yeah, but she get on my nerves.
I need her to get her shit

482
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,560
together.
She get on my nerves really.

483
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,880
Oh, can we go back to the the
deserted town and how passing

484
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,480
the fame just whip that face
ass.

485
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,720
He's walking around with that
dagger, isn't he?

486
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,800
Do we know that that was Pat and
Fame?

487
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,280
Who did that?
Though had to be he would be the

488
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,360
only other than the eyes to die
with their powers.

489
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,080
He would be the only person
making face off against the Fade

490
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,800
right now.
Wow.

491
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,440
Because of that Dagger 0.
Yeah.

492
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,040
Oh, yes, OK.
And remember, he was also in

493
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,160
that meeting in the first
episode.

494
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:30,640
So he's working for, obviously,
he's maybe overcoming it because

495
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,560
his allegiance is going to be to
that dagger.

496
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,160
Yeah, 'cause that's the, that's
the dagger Matt had, correct?

497
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Yep.
OK.

498
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,200
With all that evil from that
city they were in.

499
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,320
Right.
But if he's already evil, it's

500
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,040
probably not going to affect him
the way that he did Matt.

501
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,400
It's just going to kind of.
He already is.

502
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,240
It's it's going to faint him in
a you know, maybe in a different

503
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,440
way.
OK, but it wasn't like he had

504
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,800
powers to begin with.
Remember he it's like Matt Matt

505
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,440
was slowly turning to the dark
side, had vain is he didn't he's

506
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,080
going to go all the way to the
dark.

507
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,120
Side right.
And it's going to give him,

508
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,920
probably going to give him
powers.

509
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,320
OK, Yeah, it's.
Going to be interesting to see

510
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,200
that's that's like the only
thing really attracting with the

511
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,360
book for the most part.
Oh, OK.

512
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,840
It's pad and fame.
That fucker.

513
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,280
Oh.
OK, we even seen him.

514
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,040
Right, we just seeing all the
the damage and destruction he is

515
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,720
leaving in his wake.
And they've been chasing him for

516
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,560
five months.
Yeah, I'm, I'm trying to figure

517
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,160
out where we, where we going.
He just leaving them on the wild

518
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,800
goose chase.
And.

519
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:56,120
They've been around in circles.
I mean, yeah, where he didn't

520
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,000
lead them to.
OK, so since we're already

521
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,760
talking about that group, let's
go on and and finish this out

522
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,000
because I have questions.
So after they leave the

523
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,440
abandoned village, they find
another village near like near a

524
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,400
river that they're going to stay
at overnight, right?

525
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,800
So in the middle of the night,
these soldiers come into the

526
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,880
village, snatch them all out
their beds like start attacking

527
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,000
and fighting the village people
and the soldiers.

528
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,320
So they all get into this fight
and everything and eventually

529
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,600
they get defeated and captured
and knocked out.

530
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,720
And then when when parent wakes
up in the morning, they are all

531
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,720
on their knees.
There's soldiers around them,

532
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,120
and then there's this big
caravan that comes, and then

533
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,000
there's the lady with the long
fingernails that we saw in the

534
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,720
first episode and Ishmael and
somebody else.

535
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,720
Who are these people?
Because they have powerful

536
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,360
channelers, women channelers.
But The thing is, the women have

537
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,440
their mouths covered and it's
almost like they're being

538
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,360
controlled.
So I'm like, who are they?

539
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,920
Anthony Book Person.
The the people that was that was

540
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,960
on the ships at the end of
season 1.

541
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,960
Yeah, but who are they?
What?

542
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,800
What are they like?
The the people on the ships from

543
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,400
season 1.
See, you're not going to.

544
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,600
You can't even tell us what you
ain't right.

545
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,640
They're they're from another,
they're from a, they're from

546
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,800
across the sea.
They're called the Sean Chan.

547
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,840
OK.
It is, yeah.

548
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,160
They're just a different a
different group of people.

549
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,240
And they have channelers.
Yes, remember they had

550
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,920
channelers all over the world.
OK, but all over the world.

551
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:55,760
And, and they, there's a whole
story behind those, those there

552
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,400
we'll probably learn later, but
those are called the ones who

553
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,600
are colored, they have things on
the.

554
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,400
And and the mouth and the things
over the mouth.

555
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,800
Whatever they're they're called
the money.

556
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,440
The money.
OK.

557
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,520
And the ones who are controlling
them are called the Sudan.

558
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,480
OK.
But are they the?

559
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,600
Whole story were they were they
trained from birth or were they

560
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,680
like captured I so die or
something?

561
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,200
I guess we'll find out.
Well.

562
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,120
I wouldn't say that, but like I
said, their channelers all over

563
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,480
the world, so this is just how
they deal with their channelers.

564
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,160
OK.
That they they they captured,

565
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,280
but I'm sure they kill their men
who can channel because a man

566
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,680
who can channel is crazy and
will break the world.

567
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,440
So.
And that, that and that goes

568
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,160
wherever, wherever in the world
they're.

569
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,280
From all over the world.
Yeah, yeah.

570
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:59,120
But these soldiers, when they
came in, OK, so there's a lot of

571
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,560
them and they are fighting.
But I have to say Parent and his

572
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,240
group, they were given as good
as they got because once Parent

573
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,120
was able to get on his feet,
once he was able to get a weapon

574
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,600
into his hands, he was like, oh,
OK, let's start with some ass.

575
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,480
But the thing that really
impressed me was seeing how

576
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:23,920
loyal was handling it because it
took like 5-6, seven of them to

577
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,600
try to bring him down.
And the.

578
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,600
Way you see how big that
motherfucker is.

579
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,720
Yes, but, but but that's the
thing, because when you think of

580
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,960
loyal, just the, the, the way
his his personality has been

581
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,880
since we've been introduced to
him in season 1, he doesn't seem

582
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,760
like a warrior, like he's a
builder.

583
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,880
He has a very gentle
personality.

584
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,600
He's always in a good mood.
He's always positive.

585
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,520
So you don't think about him
having that violent side to him.

586
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,040
But when they were getting ready
to, they were trying to take him

587
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,520
down.
He was like, Oh, no, this is not

588
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,680
what we going to do.
And he started slamming folks

589
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,960
everywhere.
And I was just like, whoa.

590
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,720
Oh.
Yeah, oh, oh, Gear a pacifist.

591
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:13,360
But there's a thing in in the
book that, yeah, the old Gear

592
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,360
gentle, but you don't want to
make him angry.

593
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:20,159
Oh, I I can see why.
Yeah, I can see why 'cause he

594
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,760
was smashing folks into
buildings like up.

595
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,679
Here.
Yeah, smashing them here and

596
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:29,719
throwing them in the river and
drowning.

597
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:35,080
I was like, OK, but the only bad
thing was they didn't have the

598
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,480
numbers because all you had was
Heron and his group as far as

599
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,960
soldiers.
Everybody else was just a

600
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,800
regular village person.
And you see how the, the

601
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:49,040
Faldarans, you know, they spend
most of their time protecting

602
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,840
the North from the Blight and,
and Trollex.

603
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,880
So all they do is train the
fight.

604
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Yeah.
And all they do is train the

605
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,960
fight.
They train the fight.

606
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,680
The formations they use are for
when they're outnumbered 'cause

607
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,760
when they face Trollix, they're
outnumbered.

608
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,880
Yeah.
You know so.

609
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:13,200
Intar Uno and and the younger
one, yeah, yeah, they were like

610
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,120
they were, they were not playing
around.

611
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,800
From that mistaken.
They're all blade masters if I'm

612
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,000
not mistaken.
OK.

613
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,160
Like Intar was was like slicing
and dicing like you like he was

614
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,520
on the infomercial.
I was like, damn, son, but what

615
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,920
do you expect from Dominico?
I was like.

616
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,240
Right.
I was like, okay, Dominico, get

617
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,320
it, get it, get it.
But you saw him in the

618
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,280
background when they were
dragging Karen.

619
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,280
He was he was cutting through
them like he.

620
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:47,800
Was I was like how he was like
just all over the and in the

621
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,240
house he was doing Of course
they disturbed everybody while

622
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:53,760
they were asleep.
So he had a shirt off while he

623
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,600
was sitting there slicing and
dicing.

624
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,920
Then you see him come outside.
Homeboy then took the time to

625
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,120
get dressed and still coming
outside whooping.

626
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,880
I was like OK he was like hold
on let me put let me put my vest

627
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,840
on.
So y'all not slicing and dicing

628
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,840
up this chiseled body now let me
whoop me.

629
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,840
They were fighting, but they
were outnumbered.

630
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,760
I think if they had a few more
soldiers on their side or if the

631
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:27,560
Sean, Sean Chen you said if they
had fewer, maybe it would have

632
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,400
been a more even match.
But the Sean Chen also came with

633
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,160
channelers and like I said, they
use their full power and knocked

634
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,720
everybody out.
So it's kind of like, what can

635
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:39,960
you do?
Yeah.

636
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,520
And I was thinking, remember
that so that technically they

637
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:49,160
are not one of the Oasis not to
use the one power as a weapon

638
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,160
unless they're defending others.
And apparently this group does

639
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,440
not have any problem with that.
No.

640
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,000
So they're like, oh, OK, yeah,
we gonna conquer folks because

641
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,200
it looked like y'all gonna try
to make slaves out of these

642
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,360
people.
What?

643
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:08,280
This what we doing.
But I it, it seemed like when

644
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,400
they were marching, marching the
girls up there up to them, it

645
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,280
didn't seem like they they
didn't know what was up.

646
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,440
Because I think if they would
have known what was up, they

647
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,800
probably would have done
something to done something more

648
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,720
than just duck for cover.
How about this stand together in

649
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:27,720
a straight line, something that
you haven't done the whole time

650
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:30,560
you have been fighting, but you
know that's needing over there.

651
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Yeah.
Yeah, because I mean, that

652
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,320
windstorm was, I'm looking at it
now.

653
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,520
It's like they they blew.
I mean, that was crazy.

654
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,560
Like, like they, they didn't
stand a chance.

655
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,560
Like after that I was like, you
can't do shit about that.

656
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,680
But yeah, if you, if they would
have figured out some way to

657
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,960
buffer themselves, but I mean,
they, they didn't have any idea

658
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,080
what was getting ready to
happen.

659
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,360
So it's just like.
Like they literally came in

660
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,640
while everybody was sleeping and
caught them off guard, you know,

661
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,440
'cause parent was knocked out
and then all of a sudden you

662
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,080
being pulled out the bed and
dragged through the hall and

663
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,040
dragged down the stairs, hitting
your, you know, your head being

664
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,360
bumped on the you don't have,
you really don't have time to

665
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,400
kind of collect yourself at that
point, 'cause you still trying

666
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,920
to figure out, especially you
were in a deep sleep.

667
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,520
He's trying you just trying to
figure out what the hell going

668
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,280
on.
Like what what what is going on?

669
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,560
He didn't have time to prepare.
The Sean Chain weren't using

670
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,280
source, they were using clubs
because they were trying to

671
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,240
capture everybody.
And not kill folks.

672
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,920
Yeah.
Yeah.

673
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,560
So I guess we'll see what, what
long fingernails and Ishmael is

674
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:51,600
going to do with these people.
But I was like, question was,

675
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,640
what's his name?
Elias Is that was, is that the

676
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,440
other dude's name?
He wasn't in that group that got

677
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,720
captured, was he?
Because he didn't sleep in the

678
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:01,440
village?
No, he.

679
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:03,240
Didn't.
OK, he.

680
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,240
Ain't stupid.
No, he ain't stupid at all.

681
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,760
He's probably one of the smarter
people there.

682
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,160
Hey, you tried to tell a parent
these Nacho people.

683
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,360
Right, this ain't your pact.
Nacho Pact.

684
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,240
But.
OK, when he said, when he, when

685
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,680
he, when she asked are they
ready and Ishmael said they'll

686
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,720
have to be one thing.
I'm like, are they?

687
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,040
It's like it's like like they're
they're trying to use them or

688
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,760
get them ready to defend
something.

689
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,560
I'm like, I'm I got confused.
I was like, are they are?

690
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,360
They ready for what?
Yeah, that's the question.

691
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,120
Yeah, we'll probably find that
out next episode.

692
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,000
They be great to fight the
dragon, Dragon Reborn?

693
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,160
Or are they getting ready to
fight something?

694
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,440
No.
Who's gonna be ready?

695
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,240
You.
You literally just captured

696
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,400
them.
You don't like, you don't even

697
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,920
know what their capabilities are
except for the people who were

698
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,000
who was fighting against you.
But that was only a handful.

699
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,200
So no, I think that question of
ready for what is something

700
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,440
that's probably going to be
answered in the next episode

701
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,640
because it's kind of like, what
are they supposed to be ready

702
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,880
for?
Right.

703
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,360
I mean, y'all have y'all, y'all,
whatever it is, y'all going to

704
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,960
have to train them or y'all
going to have to teach them or

705
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:24,560
whatever the case may be.
But OK, let's go back to Tarva

706
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:31,920
Lawn because where do I want to
start?

707
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,120
Do I want to start with Leandron
and her stuff or this new

708
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,880
daughter air girl?
OK, let me start with the

709
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,520
daughter air girl.
I do not like this girl so far.

710
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,920
It's Galinda.
It's literally Galinda.

711
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,520
It's literally Galinda and
Alphaba.

712
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,160
Her and her and Gwain are are
Galinda and Alphaba.

713
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,960
You can't tell me they're not.
You cannot tell me they're not.

714
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,600
Well, it's not combative like
Glenn, Galinda and Elphaba.

715
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,080
Word.
I know it's like it's.

716
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,680
Like the it's like the popular,
it's like the popular set.

717
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,720
It's like I kept expecting her
to be like, I'm going to be

718
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,640
popular.
Like I expected.

719
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,200
I expected her to try to give
give a Dwayne a makeover and

720
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,480
make her make her be all the
noise with all the boys or

721
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,400
whatever.
No, she's too busy.

722
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:22,280
She's too busy being, I don't
know, I don't want to say she

723
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,000
was being stupid, but she was.
She was very.

724
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,880
She's being rich and naive.
She's being rich.

725
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,400
I don't I don't even want, I
would say more so ignorant

726
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:38,920
because if if she kind of like
what what we talk about Michelle

727
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,200
and I talk about when the
characters are outlanded.

728
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,000
If you've been raised a certain
way and you don't have any other

729
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,520
idea of how the people exposure,
yeah, quote, UN quote, yeah, the

730
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,120
the people below you or your
subjects, As she said to Gwen,

731
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,920
if you have no idea how they
live their way of life, how

732
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,480
they, you know what they're
about, what their circumstances

733
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,120
are about, then you're going to
come off kind of arrogant.

734
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,960
You're going to come off kind of
entitled and that's exactly the

735
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,040
way she comes off when she's
introduced.

736
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:22,360
Like she she's introduced with
her moving into the novice area,

737
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,320
the novice quarters and she's
got all her stuff.

738
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,320
And when it Wayne brings her
pillows that were sitting in

739
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,040
front of it Wayne's door, she's
like, Oh yeah, you could put

740
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,920
those down there.
I don't know what to do with

741
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,680
this space.
I've seen closets that are

742
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,040
bigger and stuff and the Wayne
is just looking at her like.

743
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,160
OK.
Or when or when she went into

744
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,880
the Gwen's room, she's like, oh,
they oh, you don't have

745
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,080
anything.
Oh, you, you did.

746
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,760
They didn't start you off with
anything either.

747
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,600
Yeah, you just moved in too.
I mean, they, they have a whole

748
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,160
bunch of rubbish in your room.
And then she's thought that she

749
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,200
was like, oh, wait, anyway,
sitting there like that's my

750
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,160
rubbish.
But once she realized this is,

751
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:08,880
she sits down and she she has
the whole conversation about,

752
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,840
oh, you know, I'm the, I'm the
daughter.

753
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,200
And Wayne is like what?
Like who are you?

754
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,320
What?
Does that mean?

755
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:19,040
Yeah.
Oh, I'm the heir of Andor.

756
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,680
I guess that's the name of their
country.

757
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,200
OK, so I'm the heir of Andor.
And then she goes into this

758
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,080
whole thing about, you know,
some of the some of the best

759
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,880
pairings come from novices who
were in adjacent rooms.

760
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,840
And don't you wonder what that's
going to be like for us.

761
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,000
Like Wayne is looking at her
like, bitch, I'm not going to be

762
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:44,680
your friend.
I was like, this girl is just,

763
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,240
she's so clueless because she
she says something kind of sort

764
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:54,520
of offensive and then something
that's kind of stupid or kind of

765
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,400
naive, I guess.
Yeah, naive all in the same

766
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,120
sentence.
Like girl, do you?

767
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,600
I don't know.
I mean, she was, she was, she

768
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,360
was raised sheltered.
So it's like that's all she

769
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,880
knows.
How she knows is what she's

770
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,520
been, she's been taught inside
of her walls.

771
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,560
So it's like when she comes out
of those walls, she has no idea.

772
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Like she only knows like what
they told her this was supposed

773
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,440
to be.
She has, she hasn't experienced

774
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,640
anything.
So yeah, she's going to she's

775
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,160
going to do, she's going to say
stuff that's like off color, but

776
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,200
she doesn't see it as off color.
She sees it as perfectly normal

777
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,760
because that's how she learned
it.

778
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,240
It's like she saw her room and
she was like, oh, this is not

779
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,720
going to do bring all my I need
all my stuff from home.

780
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:39,560
Just just put it all in there
and set it up.

781
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,200
And then she looked, she'll see
I'll see a Gwen's room and be

782
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,600
like, oh, this is oh damn, they
trashed her room too, huh?

783
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,480
Yeah, see, but she didn't mean
it.

784
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,000
She didn't mean a bad.
She just like she this is just

785
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,000
her experience.
It's just how she is.

786
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,480
And I felt, I kind of, I almost
felt bad for her when they made

787
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,520
her take all that stuff out of
her room and it was back to

788
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,560
being trash.
She was like.

789
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,960
I feel bad for her because my
whole thing I.

790
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,840
Said almost.
I said almost.

791
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:12,960
If you have been coming there
for the last six years in the

792
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,480
what'd she say in the summer or
whatever, then you should know

793
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,160
how they live and you should
know how.

794
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,320
I mean, you didn't pick up
anything when you came.

795
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,720
That's that's that's piss poor
arriving because why would Iguen

796
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:29,560
need to give her a tour when
your ass has been there long

797
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,800
more than Iguen has?
Well, I mean, and that's what

798
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,080
I'm saying she's, I mean she
readily admitted that she was

799
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,160
doing that to get to know Iguen
better.

800
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,760
But I'm like, you've been there
first.

801
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,680
You say you've come here for the
last 6 summers.

802
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:51,200
So you didn't pick up on how the
novices live or what the whole

803
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,880
like?
Your process is.

804
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,120
Right, right, right.
That's that's poor riding,

805
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,520
especially this is part of your
country.

806
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:06,720
So it's kind of like why one,
why are you going there for the

807
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:10,080
last six years?
Because I mean, do the do the

808
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,920
acid.
I have a summer camp program

809
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,400
that we can sign up for.
Like what's the deal?

810
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,880
Like, why are you there for six,
you know, six years straight,

811
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,400
but.
I don't know.

812
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:26,240
So even like even a lot of the
royal houses will send their

813
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,320
heirs especially especially
girls whether or not they can

814
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,800
channel to be trained.
Oh, that's right.

815
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,160
Because the Princess in.
Was it Faudara?

816
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,560
OK, OK, OK.
So that makes a little more

817
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,640
sense.
Still trying to get used to this

818
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,080
world, you know?
But it's very it's very similar

819
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:53,160
to I went, oh, oh, never mind,
'cause people don't know.

820
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,640
We have watch the doom, the Doom
series.

821
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,640
It was with the Ben and Jesuit
do.

822
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,120
Oh, OK.
In June it's similar thing.

823
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:06,000
OK, OK.
But when she first comes on the

824
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:11,400
screen, she does come off as a
little bit, you know, like I

825
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,200
said, a little bit entitled,
just a little bit arrogant.

826
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,080
I really don't care for a
character that much.

827
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,440
And then like maybe towards the
end of the episode where you see

828
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,480
her and a Gwen kind of sitting
there talking and, you know, a

829
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,440
Gwen actually has someone to
kind of talk about the

830
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,320
difficulties that she's been
having with 9, even kind of

831
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,400
voicing a little bit of her
jealousy, which yes, it is

832
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,400
jealousy, I think.
But just the fact that she is

833
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,280
able to have someone to talk to
that kind of makes me like

834
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,760
Elaine a little bit more because
I'm like, OK, not a Wayne

835
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,320
doesn't have to feel kind of
isolated and alone because

836
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,400
Nyneve is obviously not like she
said, Nyneve is not there for

837
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,400
her when she needs her.
But also at the same time, it's

838
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,360
kind of like you just met this
girl.

839
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,600
You don't know who she is.
You don't know what kind of

840
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,440
personality she is.
Whatever.

841
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,680
Don't start off by telling her
all your deepest and darkest

842
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,920
secrets and feelings, especially
when it comes to your best

843
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,640
friend.
I just that that's like a

844
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,160
breaking of the girl cold right
there.

845
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,640
I'm not I wasn't too keen with
that.

846
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,880
And then, of course, and I need
comes in and she overhears this

847
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,080
after the evening she's already
had.

848
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:35,520
It's just kind of like, this is
a little bit of a sticky

849
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,800
situation, but yeah, I, I don't
know how I'm going to feel about

850
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,040
this Elaine girl.
Like, is she?

851
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,920
I'm assuming since they're
introducing her, she's probably

852
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,840
going to play a big part in the
season.

853
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,160
And they're pairing her with
you, Wayne, which also means

854
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,520
she's probably going to play a
big part in the season.

855
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,440
I'm just kind of, yeah, I'm a
little iffy on her character

856
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,080
right now.
Yeah.

857
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:05,960
I'm willing to give her a chance
just because, you know, I she, I

858
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,800
think, I think she's going to be
the character that learns that

859
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,400
that ends up like learning to
get along and being being kind

860
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,360
of a kind of a the hero that not
not necessarily doing something

861
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,520
overly heroic, but she's going
to be the person that you kind

862
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:26,040
of never don't expect to do
something like like, wow.

863
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,120
I think she's going to be that
person that's going to just like

864
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,720
kind of wow us in and impress,
impress us.

865
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:33,960
Like at the moment when we
didn't, we don't think that

866
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,440
she's going to do something.
I think she's going to.

867
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,960
I think she's going to come
through.

868
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,520
I wouldn't.
Alana was.

869
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,400
I'm sorry.
No, no, you go ahead.

870
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,040
I was going to say we kind of
get a hint to it when Alana was

871
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,440
talking to, I can't remember the
the mistress.

872
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,120
Oh yeah, the mistress of
novices.

873
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,720
Yeah.
Yeah, when she was like, the

874
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:58,320
wheel is is giving us more
powerful people.

875
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,800
Boys and girls.
Because the dragon is coming and

876
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,760
he's going to need, you know,
we're going to need these

877
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,400
weapons.
Yeah, no.

878
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,360
And she mentioned Naive Gwaine
and the Daughter Ear.

879
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,400
Yeah, she didn't mention it.
The other one, not Ivan.

880
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:18,960
I can't remember the other guy's
name.

881
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,960
I can't remember his name.
The blonde haired 1.

882
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,360
He was the one that that
mentioned those particular ones.

883
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,320
But yeah.
Yeah, because 'cause if they had

884
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,400
the fighter forsaken, the will
knows they had to.

885
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,640
They got it back.
He got the wills, got to bounce

886
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,640
it out.
Just got to bounce it out

887
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,040
because otherwise the is going
to be worse than the last time

888
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,040
because at least last time all
the Isodi were on the same

889
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,000
level.
Yeah, we're.

890
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,800
Here the Isodi are all the the
the they're weak.

891
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,160
They're not as powerful as the
Forsaken.

892
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:55,880
And there's not as many of them
because Valda killed a lot of

893
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:01,800
them in the last season, yeah.
So yeah, yeah.

894
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:10,320
And I mean, I think even Varen
mentioned it when she was having

895
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,440
that conversation with Moraine,
because Moraine is thinking, you

896
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,160
know, oh, I, I guess like the
other I said I all the other I

897
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,760
said I they're like, oh, the
Dragon Reborn, we got to get rid

898
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,120
of him.
We got to get rid of him, we got

899
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,160
to take his power and blah,
blah, blah.

900
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,000
And Varen was like, yeah, you
know, she was like, our sisters,

901
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,640
they think that we have to steal
them and we have to take his

902
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,040
power because the Dragon Reborn
will break the world.

903
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,200
But what they don't realize is
our world is still broken from

904
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,560
the last time, and he may be the
only thing that can fix it this

905
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,480
time.
So, you know, I think that was

906
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,520
her way of kind of letting
Moraine know.

907
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,200
Look, I got your back.
We're on your side.

908
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,440
It's.
Interesting she said that

909
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:02,240
because do you remember the the
dark friend who tried to capture

910
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:05,800
Rand in season 1?
She said something very similar

911
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,240
to Vrain because some of the
dark friend think, well a lot of

912
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:15,160
them change because the world is
a bad place and they think that

913
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:22,080
capturing, letting the the
dragon do the dragon thing, even

914
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,160
if he's crazy, is going to fix
the world.

915
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:28,600
So but the most part dark
friends are the only ones who

916
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,560
talk about him fixing the world.
Yeah.

917
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,000
So do you think, do you think
that do you think that the the

918
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,200
way they were talking at the end
of this episode, like are they

919
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,600
ready?
They they're going to have to

920
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,320
be?
Would that be them?

921
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,120
Like maybe finding rain and
protecting him from the Isodai

922
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,560
it?
Could be you're talking about

923
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,920
the talking about the villagers
that got captured.

924
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,040
They think about Yeah.
The thing is about the they.

925
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,640
They don't have an army yet.
They have to bid.

926
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,840
They have to build up, build up
something to be a resistance

927
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,160
against the eyes and eye.
But they wouldn't.

928
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,320
Wait, you talk about the Shantan
at the end?

929
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,280
I'm talking about Ishmael like.
Yeah, Ishmael with Ashantan, he

930
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,040
wouldn't be trying to protect
Ryan.

931
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,960
The Shantan brought their whole
army.

932
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,160
They they, they don't need
warriors.

933
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,000
Or maybe they just need.
They just need.

934
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,920
They just need.
What's his name?

935
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,000
They need parent.
Maybe there's the parent in

936
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,960
them?
There's there's a reason they're

937
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:38,600
doing what they're doing.
OK, now I will say this though,

938
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,400
if Ishmael the way he was
looking at Parent, if he knows

939
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:49,120
Parent is Parent, he could have
envied everything if he just

940
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:55,840
killed Parent because he would
know that Rand needs Parent to

941
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,560
win the final battle.
If he would just kill Parent

942
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,320
right there, they'd lose.
OK.

943
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,320
But he doesn't which?
Is Yeah.

944
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,120
I think he just sensed that
parent was different.

945
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,520
Yeah.
Yeah.

946
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,440
But I don't think he was like,
oh, best friend, we got to get

947
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,800
rid of him.
Yeah.

948
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,000
You know, yeah.
OK, it's weird having read the

949
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:22,480
books, watching this.
Yeah, yeah.

950
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:24,720
OK.
It is.

951
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,240
It is cool that that that sort
of he going back to the the

952
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:33,920
tower, back to Tarvalon.
It is interesting that they said

953
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,680
that about the daughter Aaron,
about them being so powerful,

954
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,560
you know, because that's our
week.

955
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,160
You know, they they're going to
need some powerful people.

956
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,440
Oh, this is what I was going to
say.

957
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,960
Which is probably why they kind
of push Nanny through through

958
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,920
this trial.
But so there's really only one

959
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,200
Aja that wants to kill the
dragon, and that's the red Aja.

960
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:04,720
Most of the tower or most of the
eyes that I believe that we need

961
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:09,960
to capture the dragon and use
him as a weapon.

962
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,920
He's going to be too crazy to
lead.

963
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,920
We're just going to keep him,
have him and then when the Dark

964
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,000
One comes, throw him at the
dark, you know what I mean?

965
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,600
And, and let him and, but until
then, we want to make sure we

966
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,120
cage him and keep him under
control.

967
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,440
And so that's what that's what,
that's what most of the eyes

968
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,840
that I want to do.
They want to find him, capture

969
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:39,360
him and and have him for when
the final battle comes.

970
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:45,600
So do they really think that
capturing someone and keeping

971
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,920
them captive until they need
him, do they really think that's

972
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,560
going to work out in their favor
that he's going to be like, oh,

973
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,200
you know what?
I'm going to go help these women

974
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,280
and these people who kept me
captive and like.

975
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,840
I said I have been doing this
for a very long time.

976
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,560
So they believe that's what they
can do.

977
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,280
They they believe they can do
that.

978
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:12,040
Capture him, cage him until it's
time for final battle.

979
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,680
They.
Don't need, they don't need him

980
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,120
to want to fight or they don't
need in their mind they don't

981
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,720
need to want him to fight.
They just know that men that can

982
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:26,000
channel are crazy and if we have
him with it's time we open up

983
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,160
the cage and let him go at it.
But that's what I'm saying, like

984
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,040
they're automatically assuming
that they're going to keep him

985
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,840
in a cage and that when they let
him out of the cage, he's

986
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,880
automatically going to go after.
Yes, they that's what they

987
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,760
believe.
Yes, they're not thinking about

988
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,080
what if the Dark One decides to
try to pull him over to his

989
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,640
side.
Right.

990
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,920
Or if the Dragon Reborn is like,
y'all bitches kept me caged up,

991
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,520
I'm a go.
I'm a turn around and fight.

992
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,880
Y'all though, I'm a like.
Well, they they have, they have

993
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,480
ways of controlling.
I mean, we haven't seen it.

994
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:06,960
We've only seen them steal seal.
We haven't seen them try to do

995
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,000
the control yet.
OK, OK.

996
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,800
I'm not, it's not a spoiler, but
that's their plan.

997
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,880
But they would they try to try
to give him any like give him

998
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,760
make him train more or give him
any further training, OK.

999
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,480
No, because then they requires
him not to be shielded.

1000
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,720
Yeah.
I was going to say that that

1001
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,040
wouldn't work out so well for
them.

1002
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,760
No, no, no.
I got you.

1003
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,760
No.
OK, so since we talked about the

1004
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,760
red Asha, let's let's go to this
whole thing with Leandra.

1005
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,560
I can't stand her, boy.
I can't stand her in the book.

1006
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,480
I can't stand her here either.
So.

1007
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,920
But they, but they're trying.
They're trying to make her

1008
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,200
sympathetic, though.
No, fuck that.

1009
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,040
I mean there there are.
There are different levels.

1010
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,440
I'm with you.
I'm just.

1011
00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:00,280
Saying there are different
levels to this because one like

1012
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:05,360
I mentioned in the last episode,
you are trying to push 9 leave

1013
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,400
now into you're trying to push
her out of novice status and

1014
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,680
make her accept it.
Which is the next step so that

1015
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:18,720
you can train her to channel and
and to be in control.

1016
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,920
Because as you stated in the
last episode, you don't want 9

1017
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,760
need to be in a position where
men ever control her or control

1018
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,520
her power.
OK, I get that.

1019
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,240
I'll have a problem with that
part.

1020
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,280
But your approach, bitch, Like,
why would I want to do anything

1021
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,240
with you, given the way that you
treat me, the way that you talk

1022
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:44,320
to me?
And it's like for her to say the

1023
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,720
things to naive is like, OK,
yeah.

1024
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,440
So we're going to go ahead and
push you through these arches.

1025
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,800
When my sisters ask you if
you're ready, you're going to

1026
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,720
tell them yes.
And then that way I can train

1027
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,280
you because I can try and accept
it.

1028
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,800
You can't train novices, but you
can try and accept it.

1029
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,040
First of all, that is a huge red
flag.

1030
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:07,800
Huge red flag because you are
banned from from from training

1031
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,880
novices.
Technically speaking, not need

1032
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,760
is only a novice.
She hasn't done any of the work

1033
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,120
to get to where you're trying to
take her right now.

1034
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,800
Granted, yes, she is the most
powerful channeler in 1000

1035
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,800
years, and even Alana's warders
are both tired of hearing that.

1036
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,840
They're like, yeah, in 1000
years, everybody keeps saying

1037
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:32,960
that, but she hasn't done shit.
But you had to push her.

1038
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:40,080
And then later on when you go
see this secret man in this

1039
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,640
house that Moraine mentioned
last season, which I thought I

1040
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,720
was like, OK, she got a secret
lover or something.

1041
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,600
No, I think this is different.
I think that's her child.

1042
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:50,360
Yeah, that's.
Her.

1043
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,280
Son, I think that's her child
because they they very she very

1044
00:59:54,280 --> 01:00:00,280
specifically mentioned about how
the one power allows them to

1045
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,760
live for hundreds of years
because it slows the aging

1046
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,440
process and when she first walks
in and she sees the guy that

1047
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,680
this guy sickly in his bed she's
calling him my darling, my

1048
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,720
darling.
But then after everything that

1049
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,880
happens when I need.
She says, my boy, my sweet,

1050
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,920
sweet boy, I was like, oh,
that's your child that you have

1051
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,760
been caring for for this long.
But here's my thing.

1052
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,360
Yes, I understand you're upset
that Naive has followed you,

1053
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,240
that she has found out your
secret.

1054
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,440
Naive could have easily been
like, oh, I'm telling on you.

1055
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,360
I'm telling your secret.
She could have easily left.

1056
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,080
But instead she sat there and
she tried to give you some

1057
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,200
helpful advice.
OK, so you're giving him this,

1058
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,880
but it's helping him in this
way, but his heart is still in

1059
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,520
pain.
It's not helping him.

1060
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,680
This is what you can do to help
ease it.

1061
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,520
And what did she get for her
trouble?

1062
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,640
She gets a slap and landed like
literally threatens her and

1063
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,320
throws her out.
And I'm like, I understand that

1064
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,240
you are emotional because you
just realized that what you have

1065
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,840
been doing for him for however
long you've been doing it is

1066
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,160
actually still hurting him.
Like you are not.

1067
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,120
You're not easing his pain at
all.

1068
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,800
Bitch.
She trying to help you save your

1069
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,760
child and you want to attack her
and slap her and then get mad at

1070
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,560
her.
Oh, if I knew, if I knew, if I

1071
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,000
knew what I know now, I
wouldn't, I would take all this

1072
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,040
back.
I wouldn't sing you for she

1073
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:35,040
tried to help you.
And you still being nasty.

1074
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,520
You still being.
Oh, I just.

1075
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,280
Yeah, I'm with you, Anthony.
I don't like her.

1076
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,120
I don't like her.
And the sharp cheekbones.

1077
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,040
I don't know.
Something about that just makes

1078
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,640
it even worse.
You know, I, I give the writers

1079
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,560
of this show a hard time, but
here I'm going to give them a

1080
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,040
little bit of credit.
Robert Jordan wrote a lot of his

1081
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,560
characters very, very one and
two-dimensional.

1082
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,640
Like they have no depth
whatsoever.

1083
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,240
Like a light, like I'd say
lighter.

1084
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,840
Leandrian is a straight up evil
right?

1085
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,880
It's no if, ands or buts about
it.

1086
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,920
She's this bad.
This is bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.

1087
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,600
I can tell.
I, I give them a little bit of

1088
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:25,240
credit for trying to give her
some depth by giving her a back

1089
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,320
story.
This is her son and, and, and

1090
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,920
she's trying to take care of
him.

1091
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,000
And now she realizes she's been
hurting him.

1092
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,760
Giving her a little bit of
depth, giving her a little bit.

1093
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,120
It's very hard to be sympathetic
for her because she's so bad.

1094
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,080
But I give them credit for at
least trying.

1095
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,240
Trying.
I give them credit for that is

1096
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,760
going to be successful.
I don't know, Do I buy it?

1097
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,240
Do I believe it?
No.

1098
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,120
It still feels like it's
self-serving, like she's trying

1099
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,000
to help him, but she doesn't
want anyone to know that she has

1100
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,360
a son.
Yeah, which is so weird because

1101
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:07,240
it's like, how did you, how did
you make it through nine months

1102
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:12,000
of pregnancy in the tower with
nobody noticing?

1103
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,400
Well, we of course she became a
nice to die.

1104
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,440
Yeah, we, we don't know the
circumstances of her, you know,

1105
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,200
and, and it could be the reason
why she hates me.

1106
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,960
Maybe she was raped.
We don't know.

1107
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,080
Maybe she was sexually, I use
our word.

1108
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,840
Maybe she was sexually
assaulted.

1109
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,560
By the Dragon Reborn.
Really.

1110
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:36,760
No, no.
I'm just saying, no, I mean

1111
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,840
there, I mean the there's, I
mean maybe This is why she has

1112
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,200
such a negative.
Something could have happened

1113
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,000
like that to give her such a
negative view of men.

1114
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:51,000
She's like fuck all of them.
I think the being assaulted part

1115
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:51,600
is enough.
Why do?

1116
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:53,920
You do the Dragon Reborn in
there though.

1117
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,960
I think the being assaulted part
is enough.

1118
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,480
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not saying
I'm not saying that's not, you

1119
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,760
know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
trying to minimize that part of

1120
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,720
it.
I'm just saying that I'm just

1121
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,480
saying reason that she that
she's mad at these people.

1122
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,360
She's that she's mad at any
she's probably mad at any guy

1123
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,080
that has a high IQ.
She's going to kill.

1124
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,080
She's like, you smart
motherfucker, I'm killing your

1125
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,600
ass.
Man, period.

1126
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,280
I mean, just like when Matt and
Men in this episode, you know,

1127
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:28,080
Matt is whenever Leandron is out
of the cells, wherever they have

1128
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,440
him, you know, he's trying to,
he's trying to take some of the

1129
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,760
bricks out of the wall and he he
succeeds and finds out that it

1130
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,480
leads to another cell where Men
is.

1131
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,800
Men is the seer from last season
who we last saw trying to escape

1132
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,560
when everything was happening.
Well, apparently she didn't get

1133
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,840
very far 'cause she's in
Leandra's cell and she asked

1134
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,040
her, she asked Matt.
She said, So what are you in

1135
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,080
for?
She was like, what did you do to

1136
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,160
the red or to the blonde?
She said, or are you here?

1137
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,920
Is it, like, a sex thing?
You know, she looks like the

1138
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,960
type that would, you know, do
something like that.

1139
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,480
And Matt was like, I don't think
I'm her type.

1140
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:11,440
I think she likes her men dead.
Like, like, yeah, I don't think

1141
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,400
it'll be that, but OK.
Let me ask you a question about

1142
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:20,080
Matt's whole setup because we've
seen this in the last episode,

1143
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,640
and we see it in this episode.
Whenever Leandro leaves, he

1144
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,480
walks over to this, what I
thought was a set of dressers,

1145
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,760
and he pulls it down off the
ground and nothing ever comes

1146
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:32,840
out.
I was like, what is that?

1147
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:37,720
Just like a a fake, like a
showroom display dresser that

1148
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,160
she had.
Why even?

1149
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,240
Why even have that in the cell?
Right.

1150
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,160
Like what purpose does it serve?
Does it do?

1151
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,080
Any I think, I think that I
think he's he probably, he

1152
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,800
probably sealed it shut.
I mean, she's not going to check

1153
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,600
it.
Why would she check it?

1154
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,280
There's no point, no point in
unless he does something that

1155
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,840
he's not supposed to do.
How would he feel it though?

1156
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,040
Because it's not like he has a
whole bunch of supplies at his

1157
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,640
at his disposal in.
Several changes, several changes

1158
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:07,320
of clothing, you know, few extra
pair boots in the armoire, you

1159
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,960
know, whatever.
You can figure out a way to jam

1160
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,280
to jam clothes.
I mean, it's like.

1161
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,680
With what?
The fact, the fact that he what?

1162
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:21,280
The fact that that closely
resembles adhesive that is there

1163
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,720
in the cell by.
Saying that he's I'm saying I'm

1164
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,400
saying something that would
prevent them from opening.

1165
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,600
But why even have an empty?
Even if it's empty, why even

1166
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,280
have an empty wardrobe in the
cell?

1167
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,240
Play.
Oh no.

1168
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,000
I mean, what's?
The matter, it's like the the

1169
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,040
whole thing is the thing that
got me is that that he's digging

1170
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:45,560
around this and he's he's
managing to he's man, he does.

1171
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,760
He doesn't have, he can't walk
around like in Shawshank

1172
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,840
Redemption and and dump and dump
pieces of wall out in his pants

1173
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,720
like, you know, while, while
he's walking.

1174
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,160
No, he can just let it fall
behind that empty ass wardrobe

1175
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,600
because like you said, it's not
like she's checking it.

1176
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,320
It's probably a pile of dust
sitting up under there that's

1177
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,280
just sitting there.
And I mean, what is she going to

1178
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,720
do?
Come and inspect the room every

1179
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,440
time she sees.
Him I I would think it was a set

1180
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:15,120
up anyway, because she would.
The engine ain't stupid.

1181
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,520
She would know if a spoon was
missing from a dish she gave

1182
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,400
him.
Like come on now.

1183
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,680
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And yeah, but, but she, but

1184
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,200
she's arrogant enough to think
that he's not smart enough to

1185
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,840
figure out a way to try to get
out of here.

1186
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,480
It's like.
Like, OK, I would buy that

1187
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,480
explanation because, I mean,
Matt is a man.

1188
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,160
She probably thinks he's too
dumb to try to figure out how

1189
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,600
how to get out.
Like, he just been sitting there

1190
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,120
chilling for the last six
months.

1191
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,600
Like, oh, I ain't got nowhere to
go.

1192
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,200
No, Matt is like, I need to get
the fuck out of here.

1193
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:49,120
And unfortunately he tries, but
like I said, he gets he sees

1194
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,040
that men is in the cell next to
him and then he gives her the

1195
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:57,720
spoon so that she makes a larger
opening and then she comes

1196
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,800
through so that they can just
kind of chop talk chat.

1197
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,640
They've both been six months
without, you know, companionship

1198
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:09,160
without seeing other people.
And I think it's interesting

1199
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,840
that Matt does because I'm
trying to remember if he

1200
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,520
actually saw her in the first
season.

1201
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,080
But I was like, Matt, you don't,
you don't recognize that chick.

1202
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:22,200
She's the one that served y'all
drinks, you know, and she she

1203
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,160
saw what was going to happen to
all of them.

1204
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,680
But.
Was he in?

1205
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,160
Bad riding, I know.
I think he was the.

1206
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,720
Man, I don't think he was.
Yeah, he wasn't.

1207
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:39,399
He was in the I think this was
before.

1208
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:45,120
I'm trying to think.
Because he wasn't with him.

1209
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:45,840
Did she read?
Did she read?

1210
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,880
Him.
Oh, no, no, no, I think she saw

1211
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:52,240
him in in a vision with I think
maybe she saw him in a vision

1212
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,600
and a vision she saw when she
looked at Rand.

1213
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,279
I think she saw him.
And then I think that was the

1214
01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:01,520
same vision she had in this
episode, right?

1215
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,960
Because she saw a vision right
before she went back to her own

1216
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,760
cell of Matt stabbing somebody.
And when he put the person on

1217
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,200
the ground, it was Ram.
I think that's the same vision

1218
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,080
she had in the first season if
I'm not mistaken.

1219
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,960
I can't remember.
Maybe it might be.

1220
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,319
So.
But I mean, there's so many

1221
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:24,240
visions of Ran getting stabbed
by people.

1222
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,439
I think there's visions of
parents stabbing him.

1223
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,680
His vision.
I mean, it's like everybody

1224
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:29,840
wants to stab him.
Even me.

1225
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,279
I want to stab him.
Shit put me in, put me in the

1226
01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:33,880
vision.
You just.

1227
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,240
He he should know.
He I guess he ain't smart enough

1228
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,120
because why would she be getting
the bottle of wine every week?

1229
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,359
You know why?
Why I?

1230
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,439
Thought about that too.
I was like so.

1231
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,880
I'm like, is this a set up?
Yeah, that did kind of feel that

1232
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:57,800
way because she seemed a little,
she seemed a little too chipper

1233
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,520
for someone who's been locked
up.

1234
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,320
But I mean, I guess, I guess if
I was locked up and I had wine,

1235
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,120
that would probably make things
a little bit easier too.

1236
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,800
But yeah, maybe.
I think it's since she's a

1237
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,120
clairvoyant.
Maybe they're using her, using

1238
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,040
her gifts to see, to try to see
things.

1239
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,600
You think she would have told
them that she's well, Yeah, but

1240
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,200
would.
You tell if you.

1241
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,120
If you knew that, that might get
you.

1242
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,680
It might lighten your load.
As far as the senses that you're

1243
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,720
serving, yeah, you might do it.
You might give me give me a jug

1244
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,120
of wine every now and then.
Yeah, sure.

1245
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,960
Yeah, maybe like or if I was
not.

1246
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,600
Killed.
I was I'd be like, yeah, you

1247
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,120
know what?
You know what helps my powers?

1248
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,640
The the the was the juice of a
grape fermented.

1249
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,400
You ever hear that?
Yeah.

1250
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,400
Yeah, I I wondered that too.
Like, oh, is this a setup?

1251
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:56,720
Because you you're being mighty
friendly to somebody that you've

1252
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,720
never met before.
When we met you the first time,

1253
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,040
you were very weary to talk to
anybody.

1254
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,480
And I hope they don't open those
doors at the same time because

1255
01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:07,800
that's just going to cause a
cross wind that goes through the

1256
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,200
bricks and they will be like,
fuck is that?

1257
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,000
Well, now because he's going to
he's going to push that that

1258
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,880
impact if you.
Don't stop talking.

1259
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:22,200
About that, I'm just saying I
just don't understand like you

1260
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,440
just got this this piece of
thing that he just pulls down

1261
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:28,800
pulls up and just like what is
what is the purpose?

1262
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,240
What is its purpose?
I don't know, but I'm sure he's

1263
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,120
putting the bricks back because.
Yeah, but there's nothing in

1264
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,080
between them because he already
scraped it out.

1265
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,160
So they're just bare bricks.
There's nothing to prevent a

1266
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,120
breeze to go from going through
them.

1267
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,520
Well, the wardrobe will protect
the breeze.

1268
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,800
I will mention that wardrobe as
as many times as you mention how

1269
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,880
much you hate ran.
So there.

1270
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,680
That's long as long as you don't
long as you don't say as many

1271
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,160
times as I tell, say parents.
A werewolf, I mean.

1272
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,720
Yeah, no, that that could be a
drinking game if I was still

1273
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,240
drinking.
Be like parents Werewolf.

1274
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,400
Here we go, Luke.
Yeah.

1275
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,200
But I'm trying to think, is
there anything else that we need

1276
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,880
to talk about in this episode?
Anything.

1277
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:21,400
Rand Rand actually working and
we haven't.

1278
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:23,320
Talked about Errol, yet we
haven't talked about.

1279
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,920
Yeah, Errol.
Errol teaching him so they they

1280
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,280
OK because in the books you know
Rand is with him at fall dark.

1281
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,120
What what he meant Land.
Land started teaching him the

1282
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,600
forms.
OK.

1283
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,760
Of fighting.
So here they have this new

1284
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,240
character that they've created,
Arrow, and I guess we assume

1285
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,000
that he's teaching Rand a little
bit.

1286
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,920
Yeah, 'cause he's using the
different term terminology.

1287
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,960
Yeah, yeah.
And Rand also said something

1288
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,480
about.
So can you teach me those forms?

1289
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,080
Yeah, or he said maybe I can
sneak my sword in again and you

1290
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,120
can see it because he lost his
hair and blade.

1291
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,600
Yeah.
But the interesting thing about

1292
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,720
that whole conversation is, you
know, one thing ran with, you

1293
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,600
know, with a job with this old
guy that he is obviously kind of

1294
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,240
developed a rapport with.
But then you have this asshole

1295
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:26,640
orderly over here on the side
who basically makes Errol just

1296
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,720
kind of discomforted, you know,
by you treated.

1297
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,880
As PTSD.
Yeah, yeah.

1298
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,360
And then he's very flippant
about it.

1299
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:42,160
And then he's he's kind of like
bragging to Ran about the fact

1300
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,560
that, yeah, you stuck in here
with this old man.

1301
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,120
At least I get to go outside
with some of the more important,

1302
01:13:50,440 --> 01:13:53,520
you know, patience and I get to
see the sun.

1303
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,240
So you sit here being nasty to
Ran.

1304
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,240
And Ran was like one day you
going to meet the wrong person.

1305
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,040
And it was like, who is it going
to be you?

1306
01:14:02,440 --> 01:14:07,160
Well, as a matter of fact.
But before we get there, I think

1307
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:13,600
it's it's cool that Errol, when
he sees Rand, he says, oh, now

1308
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,520
you man, it's time to fight.
Oh, so he recognized me.

1309
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,120
Even though his head is shaved,
he's still we're supposed to

1310
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,040
know that he still has features
of that.

1311
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,360
Yeah, but I love the way that
Rand is just so patient with him

1312
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,120
because obviously they go
through this routine every day,

1313
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,040
every day.
And Rand is like, yeah, you

1314
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,840
know, the IO war was, you know,
it's it's over.

1315
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,760
It's been 20 years.
Yeah.

1316
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,040
And I thought, I thought maybe
this was sort of like a side

1317
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,720
reference or a nod to the fact
that a lot of the things that

1318
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,080
are happening are things that
have been repeated over and over

1319
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:53,760
again in the cycle of the will.
Because we're supposed to know

1320
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,600
that there's always a turning of
the wheel, there's always a

1321
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,160
Dragon Reborn.
And if it doesn't work out, it

1322
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,360
starts all over again.
Yeah.

1323
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,160
So I just thought it was, I
thought in him saying that we do

1324
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,120
this every day.
We go through this every day.

1325
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,520
I was thinking, yeah, that's
that's sort of how the wheel

1326
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:10,920
works.
Yeah.

1327
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,080
OK, it's kind of like the
Wheel's version of 51st dates.

1328
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:19,960
I've seen what you did there.
That was.

1329
01:15:20,440 --> 01:15:23,000
Yeah, that's funny.
Yes, I'm going back to this

1330
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,040
asshole orderly.
Yeah.

1331
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,760
You sit here asking Ran.
So who's you know who's going to

1332
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,320
be the person?
The wrong person.

1333
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:35,320
You.
As a matter of fact, yes it is

1334
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:36,760
because his powers.
For.

1335
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,600
Evil that evening.
But see, that's the thing, I

1336
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:43,480
don't control it.
I don't think Ran can control

1337
01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:50,440
his powers yet because I think
his whole purpose when he

1338
01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:55,080
catches old dude in the market
that evening, I think he really

1339
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:59,760
just wants to rough him up for
scaring Errol and being being

1340
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,960
mean to error.
I think really that's his only,

1341
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:08,320
that's his only purpose.
And then of course he starts

1342
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,240
channeling a little bit and he
gets a little rough with the

1343
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,360
dude and like completely knocks
him out.

1344
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,920
I thought he was dead at first
and completely knocked him out.

1345
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,800
And I was like, oh, and then you
hear like the little whispering

1346
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,760
in the back because that's the
one thing about Ram.

1347
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,680
We we hear something whispering
to him, like something reaching

1348
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,240
out, something trying to, I
don't know if it's trying to

1349
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,600
control him, trying to influence
him, just trying to like be the

1350
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,600
little tap on your shoulder.
But I think that thing, whatever

1351
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,160
that is, was the one that say,
yeah, you know what?

1352
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,320
If you hurt this dude bad enough
that he can't go to work, they

1353
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,920
don't have to replace him.
And sure enough, that's what

1354
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,800
happens the next morning when
Rand goes to work.

1355
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:52,560
They're like, yeah, so something
happened to old boy in the, you

1356
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,840
know, in the market, and we need
somebody to fill that position.

1357
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,960
What?
OK I have a question in theory

1358
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:10,280
so can the Ishmael and all of
them feel when Rand uses his

1359
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:16,920
powers?
I'm going to guess no.

1360
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,480
I'm thinking yes.
Anthony's kind of taking his

1361
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:25,040
time to think about it.
I I'm going to guess no.

1362
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,680
I don't know the way he way he
was working and not answering.

1363
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,000
I'm thinking, I'm thinking that
that's going to be a point.

1364
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:32,400
That's going to be how they find
them.

1365
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,880
So that that was.
The I can, I can tell you this

1366
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:39,920
because they've they've changed
so much from regarding the power

1367
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,280
and how channeling looks or
whatever.

1368
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,720
I can tell you in the book, no.
OK.

1369
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:53,480
They can men can see men
channel, they can see the weaves

1370
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:59,680
and women can see women weaves.
But the opposite 6 cannot see

1371
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:04,720
the weaves.
OK, they can tell usually how

1372
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:09,040
powerful some of these this, how
a lot of conflicts get resolved

1373
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:13,120
very quickly because they can
tell if someone is considerably

1374
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,320
more powerful than them now.
Feeling some.

1375
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,920
Yeah, feeling someone channel
No, because if they could do

1376
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:24,840
that then it would be easy for
the acid to track down every.

1377
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,320
Yeah.
Man in the world, so yeah, but.

1378
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,040
That's.
True, but I know you

1379
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:34,280
specifically talking about Rand
himself right now.

1380
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:39,160
He would he would just be like
Logane is a very powerful male

1381
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,920
Chandler.
OK, it would be what they would

1382
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,960
feel.
But they I don't think they do

1383
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:49,120
and that they don't in the book.
So I'm going to assume they're

1384
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,560
not in the show.
But you remember in the first

1385
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:57,160
scene of this episode where he
had where Rand was having the

1386
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,760
vision where he had killed
everyone and the voice told him,

1387
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,200
you you're, you killed them all
or you will kill them all.

1388
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,120
Then he got to hear.
Then again the voice told him.

1389
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,920
They say you will kill him or
kill him or something.

1390
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,040
Yeah, I think that's what it
says, that kill him or

1391
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,040
something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1392
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,160
He's, he's, he's hearing
something.

1393
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:26,640
OK, I, I don't know if I want to
say this.

1394
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,320
See, I'm probably going to be
wrong.

1395
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,800
He's going to be one of those
things just like in Shadow of

1396
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,640
Bone when they're all like, oh,
OK, Mike.

1397
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,160
And then next thing you know,
when he gets blown apart, I just

1398
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,840
was gonna be like, God God damn
it.

1399
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:47,800
I can't shake the feeling that
that him losing it has something

1400
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,160
to do with low gain.
I just.

1401
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:55,360
I just feel like, in what way?
Logan, OK.

1402
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:59,120
Logan is the one that's in that
that Yan was taken care of out

1403
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,200
in Sanctuary, right?
I'm trying I'm trying to make

1404
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:02,600
get the names name.
Straight.

1405
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,360
The one that was the Chandler
that got that got he?

1406
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,000
Was the false dragon.
False Dragon.

1407
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,160
Yeah.
Why am I?

1408
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,600
I just.
I just have, I have a feeling

1409
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:19,760
that somehow he got like a
semblance of his power back and

1410
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:23,640
it's and somehow he's.
This might be my overactive

1411
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:28,840
imagination and that somehow
he's reaching out to Ran.

1412
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,880
Somehow I.
Don't think so.

1413
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,520
OK, fine.
You it's fine.

1414
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:37,000
You know what?
If there's any consolation, your

1415
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:41,160
instincts are good.
OK, because I had to wrong.

1416
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,000
I would say wrong person but the
instincts are good.

1417
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,760
I'm gonna be also mentioned
another false dragon who's very

1418
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,880
important.
Mazaram tying.

1419
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:51,680
Yes, I was.
You know what?

1420
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,240
I was gonna ask about that
because I was like, that's the

1421
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,920
first time I've heard that name.
Yeah, that's going to be the

1422
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,680
next false dragon ever going to
hunt down.

1423
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,000
OK.
Or I'm sorry, we don't know he's

1424
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,360
false yet.
Oh, OK, but but they think OK,

1425
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:10,280
but he's.
As audience know that Rand is

1426
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,440
the Dragon to be born.
We know it, Moraine knows it.

1427
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:24,080
Veron kind of knows it.
Yeah, I don't know if we

1428
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,400
actually told him he's his
dragon.

1429
01:21:26,440 --> 01:21:27,800
Really.
Did she really say it?

1430
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:32,600
No, I don't think she told him.
I don't know, that's kind of a

1431
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,920
bit, I mean.
Because I think, I think if she

1432
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:39,400
said Ram was the the the Dragon
Reborn, I think Lamb would be

1433
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:44,120
able to figure out that Rand
ain't dead, especially when she

1434
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,440
says, I don't think this was the
last battle.

1435
01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:48,480
I think this was the first one.
Yeah.

1436
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:51,040
He would have been able to put
together that Rand is not dead

1437
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:52,920
if she had said, oh, yeah, by
the way.

1438
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,360
Yeah, no.
But I think they did the name

1439
01:21:55,360 --> 01:22:00,600
drop that he's that Maz Mazram
time is going to come back

1440
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:02,760
another time.
He's going to come back up

1441
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,680
again.
But Mike, don't feel bad.

1442
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,040
You, you were your instincts are
right.

1443
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,000
You just got the wrong person.
I'll leave you at that.

1444
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,480
See.
I'm, I just, I'm for sure

1445
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:19,280
thinking that somebody is trying
to influence him, but they but

1446
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:19,760
he's not.
Oh.

1447
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,600
Absolutely.
But and and I know that it has

1448
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,040
something to do with his
channeling, like every time he

1449
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,360
channels that it, it makes the
connection a little bit stronger

1450
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,320
it seems.
So I'm looking forward to.

1451
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:32,480
Seeing that you're new to
Anthony?

1452
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,320
Yes and yes.
The more you channel, the faster

1453
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,440
you get to crazy.
Gotcha.

1454
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,480
Yeah, yeah.
I figured that from the first

1455
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:44,960
episode of the the very first
episode.

1456
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:49,880
Yeah, from Boys Town, the fast
you get the crazy and yes, it

1457
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,800
it's obvious that someone is
influencing him.

1458
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:54,560
Yeah.
OK.

1459
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,240
Is it the dark one?
Is it Ishmael?

1460
01:22:58,840 --> 01:22:59,800
Is it the?
Name.

1461
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,000
Is it Matt?
Is it Mazaram?

1462
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,280
Is it parent?
Who knows?

1463
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,800
Not OK.
So I look, I will say it's

1464
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,480
definitely not matter Parent,
because it sounds like the

1465
01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:12,680
person who's trying to influence
him.

1466
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,760
It's almost like they're trying
to influence him to do bad

1467
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,600
things.
And I don't think Parent and

1468
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,040
Matt would do that.
If you are going to rewatch this

1469
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,480
episode, pay very careful
attention to how those

1470
01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:28,760
statements are worded.
OK.

1471
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,360
He didn't.
He didn't say kill them all.

1472
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,440
They said you will kill them
all.

1473
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:41,000
OK, OK.
There's a difference.

1474
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,960
True.
OK.

1475
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:48,640
Let's see.
Alright, because do we know?

1476
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,000
No, I'm not going to say it
because I'm trying to remember

1477
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:57,360
how much we know about the last
Dragon last season.

1478
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:03,600
Berry Gordy's best film, I mean,
oh, sorry, my bad.

1479
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,240
We were supposed to talk about
something about something else.

1480
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,840
Go ahead.
Yeah, OK, OK.

1481
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,280
And then of course, we're.
Also only that can make me

1482
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,560
rewatch season 1.
I I'm not sure how much we know

1483
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:18,000
about the the first dragon.
Yeah, I thought about that too,

1484
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,120
like, oh, should I really go
back and watch it?

1485
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:24,760
But time, who has the time?
But I guess I, I guess I figure

1486
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,880
out some time to do it.
Instead of rewatching Scandal,

1487
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:34,160
I'll go back and rewatch The
Wheel of Time Season 1, just

1488
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:38,680
also because I I wanted to be
fresh in my head both seasons

1489
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,640
when the new season comes out in
two weeks.

1490
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,640
So yeah, that might be something
I do, yeah.

1491
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,120
Oh, oh, yeah.
And then that clip last season

1492
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:52,280
when Liz Theron was talking to,
I forgot what her name was, they

1493
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:56,520
were speaking in the Old Tongue.
Oh yeah, in the final, that

1494
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:00,480
final episode, yeah.
Yeah, in in this episode, what

1495
01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:04,560
was the Sean Chan speaking in
the Old Tongue?

1496
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,000
Oh yeah.
Oh.

1497
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:13,560
Yeah, OK, OK, alright.
Interesting.

1498
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,280
OK, so the is there anything
else that we need to talk about

1499
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,720
with this episode 'cause I think
we covered all we covered?

1500
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,720
How they they were Miranda Lane.
We're talking about how they

1501
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,800
met.
Oh yeah, that was the prequel

1502
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,680
novel, The New Spring, if you
ever want to read that.

1503
01:25:29,480 --> 01:25:35,080
Oh, that's what they meant.
OK, but yeah, that just that

1504
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,760
just goes back to Moraine being
an ass and me me not liking her

1505
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:39,880
in this episode.
So.

1506
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:45,760
Oh, we talked about Selena
Randon bed where she was like,

1507
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,640
who are you thinking about?
Yeah, yeah.

1508
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,720
They're using each other to
forget about their past loves.

1509
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,320
But she's like, Oh yeah, being
with you makes me feel whole

1510
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,040
again.
Yeah, yeah.

1511
01:25:57,480 --> 01:25:58,640
What is it?
She says.

1512
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,960
You can help me remember, and I
can help you forget.

1513
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,520
Forget.
Yeah, but she was like, yeah,

1514
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,520
the, the person that she loved
just kind of shattered her whole

1515
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,160
world.
I was like, I wonder, was

1516
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,560
Ishmael?
I I don't know why I'm thinking

1517
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,160
that, but I told you, from the
moment she was on the screen, I

1518
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,720
was like, I don't like her.
Something about her seems off.

1519
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,880
I feel like she's a spy or she,
I don't know, Something is just

1520
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,520
I I don't know.
And the fact that Rand is so

1521
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:31,160
comfortable with her, I just
something about her ain't right.

1522
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:37,600
So.
Yeah, OK, Mike, I know you got

1523
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,240
some shout outs before we close
this out.

1524
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:39,880
What you got?
Alright.

1525
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,680
Shout out to the parallels with
parent and Elias relationship

1526
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:47,120
and Leandron and 90s
relationship where you have the

1527
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,960
student with relatively new
powers and the seemingly

1528
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:54,200
untrustworthy expert trying to
lead them and it's like they're

1529
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,960
both doing they're both doing
almost kind of the same thing.

1530
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:00,800
Where like the person with the
new powers absolutely has wants

1531
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,520
nothing to do with the other
person.

1532
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:11,560
That's because Leandron ain't no
seemingly she is untrustworthy.

1533
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,760
Yeah, I mean, Elias is basically
too.

1534
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,680
It's like he's shady as fuck.
I don't trust that buffer at all

1535
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,520
because I mean he he runs me too
much of what's his name Pat.

1536
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,680
Patter fame.
Yeah, Pad of fame too much.

1537
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,800
I'm just like, I can't deal.
Yeah.

1538
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,000
I think we mentioned that in the
last episode, like, yeah, they

1539
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,040
could be brothers or something.
Yeah, yeah.

1540
01:27:35,440 --> 01:27:39,440
Shout to me yelling at yelling
at the TV when when the Android

1541
01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:42,480
slapped and Eve when she was
just trying trying to help her

1542
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:45,080
help her with her son.
I was like she's just trying to

1543
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,240
fucking hell, but you like but
she was like the Crimson thorn

1544
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,240
won't work.
You have to, you have to do

1545
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:51,440
sense and she's like, shut the
fuck up.

1546
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,320
He was like.
Bitch, she tried.

1547
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,760
She tried to fucking help you.
Yeah, she made me.

1548
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,760
Sleep with that shit.
I was like, motherfucker.

1549
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:08,160
I was like, look, that's that's
twice that you done kind of

1550
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:13,800
attacked Naive right now I'm I'm
gonna need you to shut that shit

1551
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:18,240
down because again, Naive is not
using her powers.

1552
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,920
But I think she's one of those
people that you're going to push

1553
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,720
her and push her and push her
and push her and you finally

1554
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,040
going to push her one too many
times and she going to start

1555
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:28,920
channeling.
She going to whoop your ass and

1556
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,320
you ain't going to know you're
going to be like, well, I didn't

1557
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,320
know she could do that.
Well, bitch, y'all keep saying

1558
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,880
she's the most powerful
channeler in the last 1000

1559
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,320
years.
You should have known something

1560
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,480
was going to happen.
I'm saying you've heard a

1561
01:28:39,480 --> 01:28:43,040
fucking law F.
What is the FAFO?

1562
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,480
Right.
Yeah, Channel FAFO.

1563
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,680
I'm just waiting for that.
I'm waiting for that moment to

1564
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,320
come for Leandra.
I don't care at whose expense.

1565
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,200
I don't care if it's naive.
I don't care if it Gwen is like,

1566
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,120
I'm tired of you pushing around
my friend.

1567
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,000
I don't care if Moraine comes
back and has her her powers back

1568
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,880
as she does it.
At this point, it could be

1569
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,960
Verona, Adelais, I don't care.
I just want to see Leandra and

1570
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,280
get what's coming to her.
That will be like the greatest

1571
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,920
moment in this show for me.
Yeah, I'm also shout out to them

1572
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,480
naming the swordsman Arrow after
Errol Flynn.

1573
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,160
Yeah, I thought it was.
Neat.

1574
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,400
I was like, oh, I see what you
did there.

1575
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,040
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm, I'm.

1576
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:28,960
Wondering lost my blade I lost.
His his Heron Heron handler and

1577
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:33,360
marked blade mark blade I that
that has to come back sooner or

1578
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:34,960
later.
I'm thinking that's definitely

1579
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,720
going to be something where
either something happens to him

1580
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:42,440
and he tried, he gives it to Ran
or somehow Rand.

1581
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,480
Rand has his own blade.
He has his father's blade.

1582
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,480
OK, but this is the this is a
different kind of special one

1583
01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:52,240
for blade commas.
I'm assuming Errol is a blade

1584
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:53,400
Smith.
Like he's a Yeah, he's.

1585
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,960
Blade Master.
Blade Master Yeah.

1586
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,680
So I mean, maybe he gives him
this one and it's better and it

1587
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,080
helped.
It helps him to.

1588
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,400
It's just a better blade or.
Something I I don't think Rand

1589
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:10,160
is gonna replace his blade, his
father's blade with or I'm not

1590
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,480
saying replace.
I'm I'm like the blade, right?

1591
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:16,240
I'm not saying I never said
replace, I said he gets the

1592
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:17,720
blade.
I mean he can.

1593
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:19,480
What makes you think he can't do
a wield?

1594
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,280
He's the fucking Dragon Reborn.
You can do whatever the fuck he

1595
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:26,040
wants to, apparently.
Most people aren't using dual

1596
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,000
soul dual source in this show
and it.

1597
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:34,400
Wait, Masona did, Masona did.
Masona was doing it in the, I

1598
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:38,400
think he was doing it in the in
the fight earlier it's.

1599
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,000
Different here in a channeler,
Rand is going to have to have a

1600
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:45,480
sword in one hand with the
other, so.

1601
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:47,240
He ain't got shit to do with
nothing.

1602
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,200
He could be.
He could be a double wielder if

1603
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,080
he wants to.
I don't see it happening.

1604
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,160
Let that man let that man slice,
slice and Julianne like he like

1605
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,000
he works for Ginsu.
Let that man Ginsu,

1606
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:03,880
motherfuckers.
I don't see whatever the at

1607
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,520
least this one didn't seem like
it was like 1/2 a day.

1608
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,600
I'm so glad this thing.
Yeah, it's starting to pick up.

1609
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,560
It's starting to pick up.
A little bit I'm gonna say I'm

1610
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:17,600
gonna still shout out shout out
to the lane for finding time in

1611
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:22,600
a way to make her own alcohol I.
Had no doubts.

1612
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,840
I'm not.
Of all people, I'm like, that's

1613
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:26,160
the one.
She's gonna figure that shit

1614
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,160
out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1615
01:31:28,440 --> 01:31:30,640
That was kind of.
That was kind of cool,

1616
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:35,200
absolutely.
Yeah, but OK, yeah, I I think

1617
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,760
this episode is picking up the
pace a little bit.

1618
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:41,640
So with some of the stuff that
they've introduced in this

1619
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,440
episode, I think things will
start picking up a little bit

1620
01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:48,680
more because again, this is only
a 88 episode season.

1621
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:52,400
We're now down to episodes.
Y'all gotta start picking up the

1622
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,640
pace.
Yeah, so.

1623
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,880
Yeah, like where, where was it?
Where was it in that chainmail?

1624
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,480
Veil needs to hurry up and and
do some shit like let's go.

1625
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:07,960
Oh, you talk about the the Sean
Chen, whoever that person is

1626
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,000
with the long fingernails.
And yeah, I'm kind of curious to

1627
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,360
see what what these people are
about to be about.

1628
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:19,600
So I mean, they got Ishmael
sitting there on the caravan

1629
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,080
with them, so they can't be
good.

1630
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,440
So.
I just, I just think there's a

1631
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:29,640
twist coming.
I just, I mean, I don't know,

1632
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:31,520
there's something weird about
Ishmael.

1633
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:35,000
Ishmael, I think that he.
Besides the fact that he's like

1634
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,240
the Dark One.
Yeah.

1635
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,000
But then it's it's something.
It's something.

1636
01:32:39,440 --> 01:32:41,640
Else that he's.
Oh, well, he's a he's a

1637
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,080
Lieutenant for the Dark One.
Yeah, Yeah.

1638
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:48,440
I don't know because I I mean I
feel like if he was truly evil

1639
01:32:48,440 --> 01:32:51,560
he would have done that little
girl and had again let let those

1640
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,520
things eat that the trolls eater
in the 1st episode.

1641
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,400
Not while her Mama sitting at
the table.

1642
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,320
Mama got shit.
Her mom, her Mama just got got

1643
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,040
dark, dark one shit to think
about.

1644
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,080
Maybe they hungry.
I mean, they sounded hungry.

1645
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,400
You.
Know all he's when he tell her.

1646
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,120
They may look ugly and nasty,
but you know they're friendly.

1647
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,160
Yeah, they're friendly after
they eat.

1648
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,560
He was like, do I look like a
monster?

1649
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,640
People call me a monster.
She's like he and you.

1650
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,040
You saw the way she looked at
him.

1651
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,680
She was looking at him like I
want to say yes, but I'm scared.

1652
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,360
Well, I'm afraid you're going.
I'm afraid you're going to throw

1653
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:30,920
me to the Trollix.
Yes, exactly you.

1654
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,440
Might be worse.
Worse than the Trollix.

1655
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:35,960
I mean, when you're talking to
me.

1656
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:39,200
Right, the monster.
The monster hiding in plain

1657
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:40,960
sight.
Right.

1658
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,680
Exactly right in front of you.
All right.

1659
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:49,000
Well then I guess that is it for
that discussion.

1660
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,600
Yeah, that's it for our show.
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1661
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,600
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1662
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:58,160
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1663
01:33:58,480 --> 01:34:01,000
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1664
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,600
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1665
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,000
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1666
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:07,880
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1667
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:09,080
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