March 27, 2025
The Wheel of Time S2E7 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #345
#thewheeloftime Rand goes before the Amyrlin Seat, who disagrees with Moiraine about how to handle the Dragon Reborn. House Damodred is rocked by a huge betrayal. Egwene makes a show of her power as a Damane, but has a warning for Renna. Aviendha reunites with allies as she and Perrin head towards Falme. Mat finds himself in an unexpected place. Nynaeve and Elayne have a plan to get to the Kennels. Lan figures out how to help Moiraine. Moiraine loses a trusted ally.
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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here
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with Anthony and Mike, and we
are discussing the Season 2
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penultimate episode of The Wheel
of Time.
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We're almost at the end guys.
Now we used we can get ready to
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start prepping for Season 3.
Yes, and and shout out to all
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the listeners who stayed with us
through this.
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Yes, we.
Appreciate you.
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We do, We really do.
So let's get into this episode
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because I have questions.
The episode starts out with a
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flashback from 20 years ago of
Morena Sawan's relationship.
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And, you know, it's so
interesting because they're all
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young and they're carefree and
they're talking about their
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future and how they're going to
be together.
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The question that I have is
this, in this particular clip,
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they don't seem to be hiding
their relationship.
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So I'm assuming that at that
time, you know, of course,
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because Sawan wasn't the
ambulance seat, there was
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nothing for them to hide.
So my question is not 20 years
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later, do people know that they
were actually a couple back then
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or was this just a carefree like
we're we're the only two people
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walking on this balcony so we
can be a little bit more open?
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I mean, for all intents and
purposes for the show, the
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relationship is more than
whether it is sort of portrayed
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in the book.
In the books, I mean they're
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well known pillow friends, but
there were a lot of pillow
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friends.
OK.
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So it wasn't like it wasn't, it
wasn't unknown that they were
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pillow friends.
But what?
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Based on the time Robert Jordan
was writing the books, the
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editors wouldn't necessarily let
him explicitly say.
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That they were lovers.
OK, 'cause I, I, I guess I'm
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just wondering, like not even
thinking about the books, but in
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the show, I think that would
explain a lot of people's
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dislike of Moraine as far as the
Isodai sisters go, because they
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could think that, oh, OK, you
know what, they used to have a
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relationship.
And so she, she shows favoritism
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to Moraine.
And if you think about like the
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conversations that they've, that
we've heard in the first season
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where, you know, it's like, oh,
Moraine spends too much time
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away from the tower.
She doesn't have the I guess the
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restraints like some of the
other isodisces just do and I
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was just wondering if that
relationship with Swan kind of
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plays into that.
No, I think, I think I would say
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that that's sort of not
necessarily accurate because
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Moraine's issue, if it really is
an issue, is with the Blues, you
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know, with Swan is the
Armorland.
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She doesn't have any control
over what they do now.
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full-fledged eyes to die, who
isn't a sitter can go and come
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and go as she pleases.
Maureen spends a lot of time
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away, so they can't really be
accused of, she can't really be
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accused of favoritism towards
Maureen when the Blues, if they
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wanted to stay there, they could
make her stay there.
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OK.
You you.
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Does that make sense?
Yes, and.
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So, but but they're not.
Again, the reason why she
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doesn't become a sitter is so
she has the freedom to do what
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their plan is, which is to go
out and find the dragon.
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Right.
So that's what she's been doing.
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She's been out for years at a
time, not being back at the
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tower.
OK, this leads into my other
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question and I'm I can't
remember what the Izodai's name
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is the the sitter of the blue
Asha who is now a Damani.
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When she was at the tower in the
first season and she was trying
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to get Moraine to stay.
She was like I need you here at
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the tower because of some
unrest, not a think about it,
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some unrest in the West, blah
blah blah blah blah.
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And then Moraine found a way to
like, not have to stay at the
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tower.
Yeah, she gets exiled.
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Yeah, if she was at the tower,
would she have at that time
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become the sitter like I, I
still don't understand.
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What I I think that's when she
was, if I remember, because, you
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know, I don't go back and
rewatch these things anymore.
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I think at the time she was
yeah.
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I think she was telling her that
she was going to have to be at
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the sitter.
She was going to have to take
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her place or.
Something OK, OK.
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All right, so, OK, that answers
a couple of my questions, 'cause
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I'm like, OK, I'm still trying
to figure out how this thing
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works, especially when it comes
to the isodine in the tower,
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because there it's like there's
so many components to it and
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it's just like, OK, I OK, I'm
going to keep track here, keep
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track here.
But it's just a whole bunch of
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stuff.
But OK, going back to the scene,
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going back to the show, like I
said, we see Sawant and Moraine,
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they're sitting there, they're
being flirting with each other.
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They're talking about their
futures.
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They're talking about what
they're going to do.
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We're not going to be here for
long.
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We're going to serve our time
and and and go home and and, you
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know, be fish wives together and
just retire, which I was like,
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do I said I really retire in
that sense.
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But I guess, yeah.
Because because we see Baron and
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and her sister kind of retired,
but I don't, I guess seeing
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Moraine in the way she has been
in the last two seasons, I just
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can't imagine Moraine sitting
down somewhere just not worrying
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about the world.
It just seems an odd concept.
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But it's I mean, it's the same
like with, you know, in our
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field, we work in education.
We had, we know teachers who
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have been there for years.
And when they say, oh, I'm
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retiring, it's like you.
Well, we have to.
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You have to remember, this has
been 20 years ago.
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This this is before the
proverbial shape is in the fan.
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Yeah, I know.
And that's.
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That's why we used to talk about
retiring and, you know, living
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our days together.
Oh wait, no, we have something
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to do.
Yeah, because then you go in to
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see, I'm assuming that sister
was a seer.
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Yes.
And she is the one who actually,
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I don't even want to say predict
because it's literally happening
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in real time.
Prophecy.
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It was a prophecy.
But technically it was a
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prophecy.
OK, but she starts having the
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vision of Rand's mother giving
birth and she tells, she tells
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both women she was like the
dragon is reborn, you know?
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And this is like literally on
the heels of the IO War ending,
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so.
You think at this point Lehman,
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yeah, King Lehman was dead at
this point cause like, oh, the
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war is over.
Right, which literally right
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after that?
Yeah, 'cause at first I was
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watching was like, they seem to
be really, really happy when
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there's a war going on.
Like literally right outside the
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window.
Yeah, yeah.
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And then they're like, the war
is over.
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And as soon as like she didn't
even get the word over out of
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her mouth.
Good.
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Before the sister starts having
the vision of Ran being born and
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she tells them she was like, you
must.
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What did she say?
You must.
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You must unite.
You must find the dragon and
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prepare the world for war.
And, and no, and prepare the
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world to follow him.
That was what she said.
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And then she told them that they
couldn't say anything to
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anybody.
And they're both looking at each
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other like, welp, I guess the
retirement's a bust.
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Yeah, shout the Hayley Mills of
Parent Trap fame playing that
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role.
Is that what it was?
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Yeah, that's her.
Shut.
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It is At first I was looking, I
was like, 'cause I saw who,
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who's playing.
I was like, is that the
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girlfriend?
Is that the woman from 1-2
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years?
I was like, no, that's Ally
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Mills.
Like, oh.
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Yeah, it's a lot.
Lot of Ally Mills is around
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Hollywood, but yeah, I thought I
was like, oh, that's that's
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actually pretty cool.
It's good to have see you see
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someone from our childhood
actually, you know, having a
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current role and something.
Yeah, but yeah, so.
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And does she die after she has
this, this vision or this?
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Yes.
It looks like she does.
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So I'm just like, OK.
It was such a powerful,
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overwhelming, you know, she was
already old guitar and Marissa,
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she was already old.
But it was such a powerful
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vision, man, she died.
OK, because it's almost like she
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was, I don't know, like
channeling Rand's mother spirit
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because she was reacting in the
same way Rand's mother was
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reacting.
And when she died and she kind
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of killed over, I was like, is
she dead though?
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Is she like really, really dead?
And Swan and and Miranda just
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looking at each other like, and
this starts the 20 year journey
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for them to find the Dragon
Reborn.
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And so that look back at their
relationship is very interesting
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because you see how kind of
really in love they were.
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And even though we kind of, we
got a glimpse of it in the first
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season, and if you remember when
we first saw it, I, I wasn't
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feeling their relationship when
we had that first episode of
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them together because I was
like, there's been no build up.
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There's been like, we're just
supposed to assume that these
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two people have been in love for
20 years, and I just wasn't
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getting that.
And it's interesting because in
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this episode, when you see them
kind of on opposite sides of
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things, I feel it more with them
because you can feel how their
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opposing views is starting to
tear them apart.
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And I really felt it this time,
so.
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But yeah, and the fact and the
fact that she hadn't been, was
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it that she hadn't been
answering her letters like she
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been sending letters or, or they
they have been corresponding and
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Moraine just didn't tell her
what Ishmael had done to her.
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Yeah, that that was the case.
Because if you were if you were
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calling the last episode, she
was writing letters trying to
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tell Suwan that she had been
steal.
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And every time she wrote the
letter, she balled it up and
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threw it out because she didn't
she couldn't figure out how to
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tell her something like that.
Like, like Suwan said, how, how
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did you keep something this, of
this magnitude away from me?
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And, and you know, I guess, and
in some ways I can understand
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Lorraine again, not wanting to
admit that that part of her is
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gone.
And then to admit it to like the
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most part, the, the, the, I
don't know if she's the most
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powerful, but the, the person
who's in charge of all the eyes
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to die.
That's a hard thing to, to
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admit.
And at the same time, this is
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the person that you love.
This is something that you guys
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shared in common.
And that kind of, I think takes
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away from maybe what she or I
would say maybe she felt like
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that took away from what she
shared with Swan, too.
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And she was just like, yeah, I'm
not ready to do that yet, but.
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I think she was still it, it
was, it was still very painful
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for her and she she just didn't
want to have to deal with it at
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the moment.
Yeah, yeah.
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And now she's having to deal
with it because like Mike said
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at the end of the last episode,
Land comes into town with Alana
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and Ivan and Maxim, and you
think it's going to be a
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showdown, but it's like, no,
we're about to present you to
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the ambulance seat.
And this is something obviously
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Moraine didn't want to happen.
So when I say there's a lot of
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tension in this episode and a
lot of it has to do with
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Moraine, because Moraine is
trying to keep secrets from this
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person.
She's still trying to push Land
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away, like get leave.
I don't have anything to say to
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you.
And Land is like, OK, whatever.
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And I love it that he, I I feel
bad for him because you can see
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how much her rejection still
hurts him.
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But I love it that this time he
was like, OK, I'm gonna get to
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the bottom of this because she
is not acting like the meringue.
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I know.
He was like, OK, so have you
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ever felt like killing yourself
after all of this?
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And she was like, no, absolutely
not.
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He's like, hmm, OK.
And it's almost like all the
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things that he was doing, he was
checking off boxes.
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OK.
She doesn't feel this way.
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OK, Check.
She doesn't feel this way.
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Check.
Something's not right about what
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she's going through.
And I love that he was able to
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figure it out.
And like he said at the end, he
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was like, I'm so sorry it took
me so long to, you know, to do
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what I'm supposed to do.
Yeah, it was like I said, that
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version of House.
It's like he's like trying to
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figure it out, like there it is.
Do I do like that they gave him
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something to do?
Because Land hadn't really had
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anything to do.
He he felt like sulk.
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Yeah.
Exactly.
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All all he had to do was like
say, Lorraine, talk to me, go
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away.
Lorraine, talk to me.
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Go away.
Thank you.
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And see.
Right.
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You're a dark friend.
No, I'm not.
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Ryan is the Dragon Reborn.
Oh, OK.
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That that's it.
That's all you got for us.
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Right.
And I like his interaction at
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the beginning of this episode
with Rand too, because it's like
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he knows that Rand is a Dragon
Reborn now.
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And that kind of, I think that
knowledge kind of changed his
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relationships with a few people,
including with Moraine.
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But I like that he's not being
judgy against Rand like
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everybody else, Like everybody
else who's hearing that he's the
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Dragon Reborn, they
automatically have an opinion
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formed about who or what he is
and what he's going to do,
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including someone.
So I like that Land is still
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treating him the same, like, OK,
this is the kid we picked up in
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the Two Rivers.
But OK, I see you've been trying
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to, you've been picking up some
stuff.
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And he just kind of calmly tells
him, hey, this is what you want
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to do.
This is what you want to do.
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You know, when he tried to get
the sword and he wasn't trying
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to take the sword from him, he
was just like, here, hand it
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here so you can put this jacket
on.
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And Rand was like going into
defensive ball.
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He was like, OK, you've been
learning some skills, all right,
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you could take it with you.
He was like, so you're not going
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to you.
You don't think I need to keep.
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He was like, believe me, if the
ambulance seat is scared of you
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is not going to be because of
the sword.
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The the thing though, about
about all of this is in the
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books.
We have The Eye of the World,
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the first book, you know, on the
way there, he and, and ran
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bonded like he was teaching him
how he was teaching him the
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sword dances.
He was teaching him, he was
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training him, he was talking to
him.
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And you know, it's I, I, I
missed that part, you know, of,
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of this character.
And actually, we're going to see
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it, you know?
You know, Season 3 has already
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started.
Yeah, I have seen.
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A couple of, a couple of.
Clips and like.
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Photos.
Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
So, yeah, 'cause in the trailer
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you see him teaching him some of
the dances there too.
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The other thing is aside from
being the quote UN quote Dragon
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Reborn, aside from being that
it, it puts Ran in a position
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where he's going to have to sort
of be like a king.
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And you understand that Lamb is
a king and people make
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assumptions about him and treat
him a certain way because of who
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he is and the way he represents.
And I think he can kind of
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understand what Rand is about to
have to deal with as someone who
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is supposed to be in the
position of authority, who
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everyone is going to have to
follow.
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And people are going to look up
to him because he's the Dragon
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Reborn.
Landon understands that, and
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that's sort of why he's taking.
I think they're doing a good job
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of showing him trying to sort of
take care of Rand in that
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respect.
As.
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Opposed to what we yes, except
for what we're used to in the
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book where he was sort of a
father figure to Rand since he
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didn't have Tammy.
OK, yeah.
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But yeah, I was going to say he
does say something to Rand about
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that because when when he tells
Rand or when they're having that
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conversation, Iran was like,
look, I left the eye of the
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world because I didn't want to
endanger my friends.
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I didn't want to kill my
friends.
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I wanted to keep my loved ones
safe.
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And Rand had to tell him, you
are the Dragon Reborn.
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Your whole purpose is to save
the world, not just your
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friends, but everybody.
And I think I, I don't know,
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maybe I feel like it coming from
LAN, maybe he looked at it
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differently because it's not
something that is.
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When LAN says that, it doesn't
feel like he's trying to force
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it on him, you know what I'm
saying?
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I think it's kind of like what
you said.
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He's just kind of gently
teaching him without being
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overbearing, without being
pushy, without being aggressive.
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But he's kind of telling Rand
what is needed of him or what is
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required of him, but in a way
where Ran can kind of take it in
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and and understand and feel the
weight of it.
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Because again, we've been
talking about Ran.
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Ran's been living a solitary
life for six months, but even
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prior to that, they have been
dealing with so much trauma and
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chaos and everything going on.
He really hasn't had time to sit
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with who he is and what he is
and understand what that means.
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And I think LAN is a good person
to kind of tell him and and show
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him the the path forward.
Maybe Moraine too, especially
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now that we know a little bit
more of Moraine's motivations
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and she's not keeping things
from Rand like she was at the
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beginning.
Because I think at this point,
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especially once Ram was like,
yeah, Laugher said I can't hang
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with you or else she's going to
kill you.
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I think at this point she
realizes, OK, I have to, I'm I'm
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going to have to tell him the
truth.
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Especially after Sawan handed
her her ass.
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She was like, look, this boy is
no in, in no better position to
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fight the Dark One than he was
six months ago.
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Like what have you been doing
with him since the Eye of the
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World?
Which is a valid question.
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Yeah, 'cause she's basically
just had him kind of hidden away
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and, you know, working in the
asylum.
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And I, I understand she put him
in the path of people who could
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help him without directly
saying, hey, we're here to help
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you.
Because even the guy who he was
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caring for before he switched to
low gain, that guy was helping.
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He was the one who taught him
the forms.
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So yeah, I, I, I, I, I do like
that dynamic between the two of
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them.
I do want to see more of that
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because I think land will be a
very big help to Rand
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especially.
Trying to deal with all this,
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this chaos that's really about
to appear in his life.
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Right.
Yeah.
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I I love, I love Sawan's
incredulousness.
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Like, after, like he tried to
power up.
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She was just like, like, this is
all you got.
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Like, you like, you know how
long it's been like, I got
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beginners that could wreck you.
Like what the hell?
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She set him up.
She she said.
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How many times have you chown?
He's like.
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Not many.
Not, not many, not not on, not
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purposeful.
Oh, she said.
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Oh, I got you bro.
Right, right.
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Because her whole thing was she
said, what did she say?
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Do you know what the tower law
says that the ambulance seat is
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supposed to do to the Dragon
Reborn?
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And he was like, you're supposed
to steal me.
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And she was like, steal you.
That's where amateurs.
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She was like, no, we're supposed
to cage you.
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And I remembered you talking
about that, Anthony.
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She said we're supposed to cage
you and basically use you for
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our purposes.
You channel when we want you to
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channel.
You fight when we want you to
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fight.
You know, when it when time
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comes for the last battle,
you'll be our greatest weapon.
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But Oh no, you won't be the
general.
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I know where I was looking like
though.
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So they're basically no better
than the other than other of
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you.
Not, not when it comes to this.
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They're not any better.
No, yeah.
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Yeah, it's the same thing is.
It really is.
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And and that's when Ran kind of
attacked.
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He was like, oh, you're not
about to put me in a cage.
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But yeah, Ran you, you got to
work on your, your control and
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your channeling a little bit
more than what you have been
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'cause if you've been, he's been
trying to hide it for the whole
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six months.
So.
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Yeah, I like how that, see, is
almost a direct parallel of Rena
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and Wayne too.
It's like you tried to lash out
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and that shit got shut down.
It's like he tried to lash out
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and that shit got shut down like
in a fucking hurry.
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And you can you were basically
powerless to do anything about.
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It is like a parallel between
both situations.
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I'm just like, see, this is
like, you just don't know.
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And this show is like, you think
you're rooting for the right
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person.
Then you're like, am I you Like
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maybe, maybe that's room for
them.
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Then you're like, no, I'm
definitely not room for them.
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I need room for them.
Am I rooting for anybody 'cause
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I'm just rooting for Loyal.
I'm just gonna get a Loyal get a
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sweatshirt with Loyal's face on
it.
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I mean like, yeah, loyal I.
Am looking for the truth.
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He's the man.
We know.
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I well, you know, the the name
of this episode is Deus DeMar,
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which means the great game.
And in from from the book,
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there's I told you before the
the game of houses is what they
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do, which is their political
machinations that go on, you
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know, behind the scenes and in
front of the scenes.
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That's something that I think
they've sort of kind of hinted
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at in the show, but not really
talked about, and it's where
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George RR Martin gets his Game
of Thrones from Robert Jordan.
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They first game of houses
Meringue is really, really good
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at playing the great game.
He and Swan, especially Marine.
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They're playing a game like you
know, you know how we have the
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same you know, we're playing
chess, we're playing checkers.
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They're not even playing the
same game as as.
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Everybody else, yeah.
Right they.
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Are really playing the long
game?
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Yeah, yeah.
Because everybody else is
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worried about what's going on
right now.
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They've been thinking 20 years
ahead forever.
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They have them or.
Each other to figure out
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checklist, yeah.
Yeah, so and, and I I think
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because they make a big deal
about it in the books about the
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nobles playing the game.
That one scene where Rand was
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with land fear at the party, he
in the book, he literally burned
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a whole bunch of letters, like
he just dropped them in the
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flame.
He wouldn't even read them.
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And they they thought he was a
noble, but they didn't know who
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he was when he left carrying it
left the game in shambles.
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Like people didn't know what the
hell to do.
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They didn't know what was going
on.
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He just totally and it's part of
his Tavirian nature.
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Probably he did a little bit of
that too, but he basically left
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all their politics and
machinations in shambles because
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they had no idea what was going
on.
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Like they didn't know who he
was.
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He was with this beautiful
woman.
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He seemed to be very powerful.
They were all drawn to him and
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he didn't.
He just like dismissed their
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things as if they were nothing
and he just which in the grand
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scheme of things he's a Dragon
Reborn so.
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So it really it is.
Nothing, it is nothing.
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He doesn't have time for this
game basically.
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And he left.
He left them like in shambles.
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It was.
It was terrible.
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Right.
OK, but yeah, so the thing, the
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reason why they call this the
Great game is Moraine and Swan
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00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,760
just playing.
They're doing something no one
442
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:01,520
is expecting, which is I'm, I'm
kind of concerned here for Swan
443
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:07,960
because it seemed like she's
abandoning the plan because she
444
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,240
thinks Marine has abandoned the
plane.
445
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,200
And Marine is like trying to
tell her I haven't.
446
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,600
But I don't know if they're
putting on a show because people
447
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,120
are eavesdropping and listening
and all that stuff.
448
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,680
So I.
See, I thought that too until
449
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,640
the end of the episode and I was
like, oh they really are on
450
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,640
opposite sides.
Like this was not.
451
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:31,080
It was.
I don't know.
452
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,880
I don't know you, still you.
Still, even with what happened
453
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,080
at the end of the episode.
'Cause I think they, I don't
454
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,120
think landfill was supposed to
show up.
455
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,320
Landfill.
But even before landfill showed
456
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:52,520
up, Swan commanded Moraine to
stop, and that was when she did
457
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,360
that.
And you could kind of see
458
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,800
Moraine being forced to turn
around because I guess.
459
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,240
Well, because of the oaths.
Yeah, because of the oaths.
460
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,160
She's supposed to obey because
she said I will obey every
461
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,520
command Sawan Sanche or I will.
I will obey Sawan Sanchez's
462
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,640
every command.
I think that's what she said
463
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,560
with the oath, right?
And when Sawan was telling her
464
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,440
to close the way gate, she was
like don't make me force you.
465
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,080
And Maren looked panicked.
She was like don't do this if
466
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,440
you ever love me, don't do this.
And she was like, I command you
467
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,720
when it forced her to turn
around.
468
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,920
That hit me so hard because I
was like, that's almost a worse
469
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:44,040
violation to me from what
Ishmael did to her.
470
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,840
Because Ishmael, it's her enemy.
He's the one, you know, he
471
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,000
doesn't care about her.
He can take her power, whatever,
472
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,840
and not think anything of it.
This is somebody that you love
473
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,560
who is forcing you to do
something that you don't want to
474
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,600
do basically without your
consent.
475
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,560
It was a violation.
It was, but step back for a
476
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,360
second.
Step back for a second.
477
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:13,160
OK, so how many people knew
there was a old year way gate in
478
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,320
the middle of the city?
Yeah, only.
479
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,200
Only a.
Couple.
480
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,360
They had to.
They had to go find a map out of
481
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,520
the library to find it.
Yeah.
482
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,080
Swan immediately went there like
she knew where it was.
483
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,560
How?
I was to see, I was going to say
484
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,960
was did she go there because she
knew it was there or did she go
485
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,640
there because she was following
Moraine?
486
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,000
How could she have followed
Moraine?
487
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,160
She was on top of the rooftop
when they left.
488
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,600
How did she know where she was?
Maybe.
489
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,640
She maybe she, I mean it seemed
like she knew that that was the
490
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,320
only way they were getting out
of here with with land fear like
491
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,960
throwing become becoming a
little fire starter like
492
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,800
throwing, throwing fireballs all
over the place.
493
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,120
And this it's like they they
knew that they couldn't go out
494
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,680
the front.
So she's like, they have to go
495
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,360
out.
No.
496
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,040
But see, I don't think they.
Knew they.
497
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,760
Was even in the city.
No.
498
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,080
And I don't even think they knew
that the fire, because the fire
499
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,760
was in the four gate.
I don't think they knew that
500
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,560
Forsaken was starting the fire.
They just knew there was a fire.
501
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,240
Yeah.
OK.
502
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,080
So now the people down in in, in
the in the area who saw this.
503
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,200
Beautiful.
Woman with the long flowing
504
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,080
robes walking.
They probably realized, but.
505
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,640
They they didn't.
By the time they realized what
506
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,960
was happening, they were made to
a bacon crisp.
507
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,760
If you're seeing her, it's too
late.
508
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,920
It's too late if you see her.
Oh well.
509
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,480
Who you going to tell?
Nobody let.
510
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Look, let me let me go this.
Way.
511
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,120
Let me, let me get out.
Let me get out your way while
512
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,680
you're setting everything on
fire.
513
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,640
And, and what did she say when
she was walking by and blowing
514
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,400
people up?
She's like, like, oh.
515
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,560
It was like 3.
I'm back to this again.
516
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,160
Yeah, she was like 3000 years of
pass and I'm doing this again.
517
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,720
Really.
But but I have questions though
518
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,840
because like I said, team one,
they didn't know where the way
519
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,600
it was.
They had to use a map to find it
520
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760
and Swan just strolled in there
like so.
521
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,320
I'm thinking this is not the.
Theory.
522
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,840
The theory was not the theory.
It it could be possible that
523
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,680
landfill was was making her do
that because the Forsaken can do
524
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,000
something called compulsion
which they can make people do
525
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,880
things so.
You think landfill made swan
526
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,680
come?
Right, because what did she say
527
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,760
after she knocked her out?
She said a broken Armaline is
528
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,720
better than a dead.
That is more used to me than a.
529
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,120
More useful to me than a dead 1.
Or I mean if.
530
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,920
She's and who would know, and
Landry would know exactly where
531
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,480
that way it was because she was
there when they were made like
532
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,240
she knows where they are.
Yeah, but.
533
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,480
Wouldn't the ambulance seat know
almost everything in the tower?
534
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,120
No.
No, they're not in the tire.
535
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,000
They ain't carrying.
But yeah, they're in carrying.
536
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,360
I mean, but.
They're not in tire of.
537
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,480
London.
I would think she would have
538
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,080
like some kind of like extended.
OK, never mind.
539
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,040
No.
I.
540
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,200
Mean she's not the president.
She'll get a black book from the
541
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,320
previous arm and then have all
the secrets.
542
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,800
OK, that's what I was saying.
She's not going to be the one to
543
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,280
go in and read every single text
or tone that's in the White
544
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,960
Tower.
So yeah, that that kind of does.
545
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,000
In any, any reading that she
would have done, they they would
546
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,640
have been looking for
prophecies.
547
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,160
She was her.
She would have been the one
548
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,400
there trying to trying to to
tweak out all the prophecies to
549
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,600
figure out what they needed to
do, what she needed to do.
550
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,200
That's.
Absolutely no.
551
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,600
And even Even so, why would she
know where secret passages are
552
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,920
in Carrion when Moraine is from
there and she didn't even know?
553
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,000
She knew there was one there.
They didn't know where it was.
554
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,320
No, she told, She told, She told
Alana, she said.
555
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,080
That's just a myth.
That's a rumor.
556
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:09,920
Oh yeah, that's.
Right.
557
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,000
And Alana was like, no, we got a
old gear and map this it, it's
558
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,400
the real thing.
Yeah, and who brought the map?
559
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Yasuka Cho Chang.
She brought it to who?
560
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,800
To.
Veron.
561
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,760
How did Veron know to even ask
her to go get one?
562
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,200
See.
See, oh, but you know what
563
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,120
Bavarian is also, she's writing
a book about the breaking of the
564
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480
world, and she's been doing a
lot of research.
565
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,360
And remember, she went to the
White Tower looking for certain
566
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,080
texts to research.
So she may have once she and
567
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,400
Lorraine talked and Lorraine,
you know, she confirmed that
568
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,480
Rand was the Dragon Reborn.
Maybe she started thinking of,
569
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:58,000
OK, let's look at certain
things, let's look at certain
570
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,720
places, especially if she know,
if she knew that Moraine stashed
571
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,560
Rand and Kyrie Ann, maybe she
was like, OK, we might need to
572
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,520
think of a alternate way out.
Like Baron seems to me to be the
573
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,560
one that has plans on top of
plans on top of plans.
574
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,360
Like she sees.
I I said this in a couple
575
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,440
episodes ago.
She's very observant.
576
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,560
So she was probably paying
attention to other things that
577
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,840
some of the other sisters or
anybody else like wasn't even on
578
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,520
their radar.
Yeah, OK.
579
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,360
I'm, I'm, I'm just saying it
might not be.
580
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,160
They could have had advanced
knowledge.
581
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,720
But I know it just seemed like
how I I'm still going to ask the
582
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,600
question.
Lamprey knew where they were.
583
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,280
Swan knew where they were.
Yeah.
584
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,920
You know, it's easy to know
that.
585
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,600
Well Landfair would know.
OK, well if they got to get out
586
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,160
of the city quickly, they're
probably going to go to away
587
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,520
gate.
So she may not have thought they
588
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,640
didn't know where it was.
She just automatically went
589
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,000
there because she knows Marine
has used it before, used used
590
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,920
one before, so she may have just
assumed she would be there.
591
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Someone, on the other hand, why
would she even know exactly
592
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,360
where to go?
Yeah.
593
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:23,520
Well, I, I will say this, I
don't think Landfair, I don't
594
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,159
think she anticipated Moraine
being there because one, as far
595
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:30,000
as she knew, Moraine was still,
she's not going to be able to
596
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,040
open the weight Gate 2.
She had told Ran that if, you
597
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,080
know, if she caught him with
Moraine, she would kill Moraine.
598
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:44,840
And I don't think, you know,
with Ran going to her for help
599
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,400
in escaping, I don't think he
told her.
600
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,639
Oh yeah, by the way, Moraine is
coming with me.
601
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,880
Did did Landfree help him
escape?
602
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,679
Yes.
I.
603
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,640
Started the because.
I think she started the fire as
604
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,800
the distractions.
Oh, wait.
605
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,560
Distraction for what?
Wait, OK, see, now you got me
606
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,000
think about that.
Because she started the
607
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,040
distraction.
Moraine was in there with Ram,
608
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,560
but then Varon came in.
See, now you got me wondering,
609
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,000
is Baron a dark friend or
something 'cause Baron came in.
610
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,720
She told Leanna.
She was like, I'll take his
611
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:24,320
shield from you so you can go do
whatever the ambulance.
612
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,160
Right.
And then Maureen goes, Oh, you
613
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,480
worried that very carefully,
'cause she didn't lie.
614
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,640
She didn't.
She just said I'll take his
615
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,560
shield from you.
But that doesn't mean she can't
616
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,280
lie.
She could have been doing that
617
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,440
for show.
See now.
618
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,640
Oh my God.
OK, so now you.
619
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,560
I'm sorry man, this very, this
ain't adding up and you know.
620
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,240
You know what?
It's so interesting because.
621
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,920
Oh, and then Matt gets knocked
down by someone.
622
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,920
Matt got knocked out by someone
in the grey hood.
623
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:06,360
Thomas was wearing a grey hood.
I'm just, I'm, I'm just saying
624
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,800
it.
Was he was.
625
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,640
And then when Alana, Maxim and
Ivan was sitting there talking,
626
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,240
Maxim looked at Baron.
He was like, you know, I don't
627
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:18,400
trust Baron.
He was the only one that said
628
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,000
and I was like, why trust Baron?
But you know what and and why
629
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Ivan, Ivan was like, you know
what, I'm from the go far,
630
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,120
little Tomas.
Right.
631
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,360
I love how Alana was like, she
was like, no, I don't want us to
632
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,480
be separated.
And both of the guys looking at
633
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,560
each other and then they looked
at her.
634
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,520
She was like, they're like 2 of
you. 3.
635
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,240
I don't know.
I just think they all think
636
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,040
everybody dark, friend.
I'm just saying.
637
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,120
I I mean, but you know you.
Saying, but will you?
638
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,000
Will you put that very?
Faint now how in the world?
639
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,920
Because Varin came to the
conclusion that Moraine knew who
640
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,760
the Dragon Reborn was real quick
when they when they were on
641
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,280
their way and she was like, you
found the Dragon Reborn.
642
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,000
I'm assuming it's one of those
kids you plucked from the Two
643
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Rivers.
And even remember Moraine got
644
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,640
ready to draw that DAP.
Wait a minute.
645
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,280
Oh, wait, wait.
I just think it's a awful
646
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,120
coincidence he goes to to
landfill to ask for help.
647
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,400
All landfill doesn't start a
fire.
648
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,080
Yeah, 'cause she doesn't
physically come in and help him.
649
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,480
Veron.
Veron.
650
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,920
And and if she immediately
drops.
651
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,240
It.
If she wanted to go in there and
652
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,480
get him out of there, who's
going to stop her?
653
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,600
Who's going to stop her?
She could have.
654
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,400
She had teleported right into
that room and killed everyone.
655
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,680
Yeah, the way she teleported
Matt all the way to fall.
656
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,440
Exactly.
OK, that's making me think now
657
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,560
because I never I, I, I wouldn't
have thought to ask that
658
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,520
question.
And it's like now I'm.
659
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,120
I'm in retrospect the first time
I watched this, even knowing
660
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,480
what I know first time I watched
it.
661
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,720
I'm like I, I, I questions.
I would have questions about
662
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:19,800
Baron easily, easily.
She moving around to I
663
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,640
understand.
Her being smart.
664
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:29,560
Being smart because, you know, I
also thought maybe Marine's
665
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,240
sister was a dark friend.
We found we found out in a big
666
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:36,760
way this episode.
She is definitely not a dark
667
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,000
friend.
Yeah.
668
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,440
And we find out that, yeah,
their rise to riches was because
669
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,320
of the deal that was made.
Was that?
670
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,960
Little naughty go Deal of the
best.
671
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,760
Yeah, that's snotty.
That's snotty.
672
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,800
No sun.
And it's so it's so crazy
673
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,920
because when they were when they
were.
674
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,720
Well, OK, let's let's finish the
conversation about Veron and
675
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:03,000
that stuff before we move to
Spartanis.
676
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,440
But with you asking that
question now is making me think
677
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,640
back to a lot of things since
we've met Veron.
678
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,400
You know, even just the fact
that she let Marine stay with
679
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,040
her for so long, like was she
was she doing that to try to
680
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,600
find out some information?
Was she trying to find out?
681
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,800
You know, because Moraine was
having so many visitors at that
682
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:35,320
house trying to get information,
it does open up the question of
683
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,000
whether or not she could be a
dark friend.
684
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:42,200
But at the same time, I wonder
if that's like a misdirect
685
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,240
because you have people in this
episode, you have Leandra, who
686
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:51,960
is very clearly on her dark
friend mission in this episode.
687
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,600
She's doing her dark friend
shit.
688
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,600
And then you have Baron who now
with what you've asked and the
689
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,520
things that is brought up seems
questionable, questionable.
690
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:07,120
But I almost feel like it's kind
of AI don't know, maybe like a
691
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,680
misdirect, like OK, we're gonna
make you think that somebody who
692
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,560
who should be good might be bad
to take.
693
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,760
I I don't know.
I don't know if I still feel
694
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:24,000
like.
Oh, no, I'm, I'm kind of, I'm
695
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,400
kind of split down the middle.
I'm on the fence.
696
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,160
You raised some very good points
though.
697
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:36,440
She has a dark friend then then
like, I mean, she has she been
698
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,920
just watching Moraine or are
saying stuff up for Moraine?
699
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,080
Like this whole time, 'cause
Lorraine's been, that's where
700
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,560
he's been under care.
This whole time that she's been
701
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,600
silence.
Right, yeah, 'cause I mean, even
702
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,080
if she, even if it was revealed
that she was a dark friend, what
703
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,720
is Moraine gonna do?
Nothing.
704
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,520
Yeah, and it's like what if,
what if, when, when she was, I
705
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,400
mean, did she change her mind
about her?
706
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,160
Did she accept that whole
ambushed in the 1st episode?
707
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,160
You mean the, the, the fades?
Yeah, that's what I was just
708
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,000
thinking too.
Like OK, because OK.
709
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,120
Like, like, like, 'cause Bahrain
was getting ready to leave,
710
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,760
maybe she didn't want her to
leave just yet.
711
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,960
She was like, OK, I need to slow
her down a little bit and had
712
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,440
the phase come in and but she
was gonna let them kill them.
713
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,480
She was just like, OK, that's
enough of that.
714
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,640
They, they're not going to go
anywhere for a minute.
715
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,920
So cool.
But then when Lorraine still was
716
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,400
steadfast on leaving, she's
like, fine, we're going with you
717
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,440
or we'll, we'll go.
Then she's like, here, take
718
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,440
here, take land.
And then they're like, she's
719
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,040
like, fuck trying to I find.
So then she had to figure out
720
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,960
another way to figure.
But she but she knew she
721
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,360
probably had an inkling that she
was going back to she was going
722
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,640
to try to find Sawan.
So she was like, OK, we gotta we
723
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,160
gotta try to find a way to
intersect them somehow, like, or
724
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,080
just to meet them somewhere.
See, now we're now we're coming
725
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,200
up with all kinds of different
theories about this stuff.
726
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,080
And it's like.
There's a lot of conspiracy
727
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,640
theories going on right now.
It's a.
728
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,240
Lot.
It's a lot right now.
729
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:14,760
It's like the more we think
about it, the more we'll come up
730
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,040
with stuff.
It's just like.
731
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,680
It's the name of the episode.
That's a great game.
732
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,920
It's a game.
It's a game.
733
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:25,000
OK, OK.
Manipulations behind,
734
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:32,680
manipulations behind, you know,
manipulation and all this stuff.
735
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,320
Right, OK, so we gonna stick a
pen in the whole Baron
736
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,440
discussion.
We gonna see what next the next
737
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:45,040
episode reveals if anything, and
whether or not that makes a
738
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,000
difference in in how we're
thinking towards her.
739
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,640
But yeah, Anthony, you had you
have my mind just in jumbles now
740
00:42:52,640 --> 00:43:00,200
in a jumble because I I wasn't
really thinking.
741
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:07,520
Yeah, OK, so anyway, now let's
go back to Lady de Madrid and
742
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,200
and Barthanis and Leandrine.
Because Leandrine comes in the
743
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:17,640
house and she walks into the the
parlor where Barthanis and Lady
744
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,880
de Madrid are sitting.
And as soon as she walks in,
745
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,040
Barthanis is whole demeanor
changes.
746
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,800
He sits up straight.
He looks at her like, Oh, my
747
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,840
God, I was like, yeah, that's a
dark friend.
748
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,320
Because it's like he, he knew
his kin when she came into the
749
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:43,160
room and even when she sat down
and Lady de Madrid is, you know,
750
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,160
she's sitting there being nice
and polite and blah, blah, blah.
751
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,840
And then when he tells her he
was like, mother, go upstairs.
752
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:56,080
This, this is royal business.
I'm like, that's a lie.
753
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,120
Because what would Leandra have
to do with the with the royal
754
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,560
family in Kyrie Anne?
She's a isodide.
755
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,680
She's been all the way in the
tower.
756
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,080
She's been one.
Also.
757
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,320
She's a red isodide.
She ain't serving nobody.
758
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,200
I was like, yeah, use a sneaky
motherfucker.
759
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640
Something ain't right about you.
You are a dark friend.
760
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:22,000
Thankfully his mother peeped the
same shit because she was
761
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,360
listening and she heard Leandro
and give the give the order.
762
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,240
They wanted him to kill Moraine.
Or maybe not Will.
763
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,080
Yeah, kill.
I'm gonna say you said just take
764
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,360
her off the board.
You you you could have really.
765
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,080
Just locked her up and just kept
her there.
766
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,960
She couldn't have gotten out.
But no, take her off the board.
767
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,760
And if your mother gets in the
way, take her off the board too.
768
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,280
And Barthetus is looking like
you try to make me kill my
769
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,160
auntie and my Mama.
And I was like, look, this is a
770
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,520
woman who just let her son be
killed so that she can be free
771
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,280
to do whatever they want her to
do.
772
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,840
She ain't thinking about your
aunt.
773
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,880
She ain't thinking about your
Mama.
774
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,400
She don't care how you feel
about it.
775
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,280
This is the order from Ishmael.
You need to go do it.
776
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,920
But luckily his Mama ain't no
bitch.
777
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,880
She ain't stupid either.
Exactly.
778
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,360
Far from it.
Right.
779
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,280
Because even if she was
eavesdropping, it's still part
780
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,360
of the game.
Like having eyes and ears
781
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,640
everywhere, being able to get
intelligence.
782
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,000
You know, he, he, he probably
doesn't even know what's going.
783
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:43,080
On right right and I really felt
so bad for her because when she
784
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,400
she sets the trap for him she
has one of the guards you know
785
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,640
say hey we put your on in the
cell we gave her the tea she
786
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,400
should be asleep right now
because he of course is about to
787
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,520
take the cowards way out he's
going to have them knock Moraine
788
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,280
out so he can kill her one
without her knowing it was him
789
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,800
and 2:00 just because he
probably couldn't face like oh
790
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,200
this is my aunt I got to kill
her he didn't want to look like
791
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,240
a coward but.
He doesn't know she can't
792
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,200
channel either.
Well, that too.
793
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:17,920
But when he goes into the cell,
his mother is standing at the
794
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,080
door, and she's just looking at
him.
795
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,240
She was like, I really didn't
think you would do it because he
796
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:24,040
had a sword and he was getting
ready to pull it out when he
797
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,920
realizes that the cell is empty
and she locks him in and he's
798
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,240
sitting there.
He was like begging.
799
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,200
She was like, what?
What in the world made you do
800
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,640
this?
He was like, you don't think our
801
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,080
sudden fast rise back to the top
was all you?
802
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,560
No, this is me.
This is what I was doing.
803
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,080
I'm trying to ensure that we
have what we need.
804
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,720
Me marrying the queen, that's
all part of this.
805
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:55,600
That's what I was promised.
And she was like, yeah, you know
806
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,800
what?
I can't fuck with you.
807
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,560
And he was like, you, you, you
going to turn me in?
808
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,480
You going to give all this up
for your sister?
809
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,960
She don't even care about us.
And what did she say?
810
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:11,240
She said, I, I realized that
because what he said, she will
811
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:14,480
leave this place and not come
back.
812
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,480
And she won't she won't give she
won't give us a second thought.
813
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,040
And I'm very sad.
I know that.
814
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,760
But two things about my sister
that are always true.
815
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,640
She knows the difference between
right and wrong, and she knows
816
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:33,560
that sometimes you have to
choose to do what's right over.
817
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,960
How hard?
It is, right?
818
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,480
Yeah, no matter how hard it is.
And he was like, don't tell the
819
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,080
Queen.
She was like, already did.
820
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:46,360
I was like, yo, she really was
like, I'm not fucking with you.
821
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,640
I'm.
I'm done with you.
822
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,640
I had a lot of respect for her
for that though, because not too
823
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,400
many people would would turn
their turn their child in.
824
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,920
In this universe, in this world,
people do not like dark friends.
825
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:03,840
If they don't like anyone, they
don't like dark friends.
826
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,400
You know, they don't even play
about calling people dark
827
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,440
friends because you'll be killed
quickly.
828
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,200
Yeah, which is why that whole
exchange with Alana, Maxim, Ivan
829
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,560
and Land happen because they
they were really like, yo bro,
830
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,720
we love you, but we're going to
kill you right here now.
831
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:24,840
Right right here, right now.
Like they don't like, we don't
832
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,680
care how long we've known you.
We don't care, We don't care if
833
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,400
you've been a dark friend for
just a day.
834
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,160
And I, I'm guessing this because
when people become dark friends,
835
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,520
like we said, it's not one of
those things where, oh, you can
836
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,080
have a regret and you can get
out of it or, you know, you can
837
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,920
say, hey, I changed my mind
because once you're a dark
838
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,560
friend, you're in that until
you're deaf, there is no going
839
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,000
back.
No.
840
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:53,760
You you swear to him even in the
afterlife.
841
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,440
Really.
Yes.
842
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,400
So let me ask you a question.
Swear your soul to him.
843
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,720
Like you, you be.
Once you swear to the Dark 1,
844
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:10,720
you swear to the Dark One.
So so my question is because we
845
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:16,480
see it with Matt in this episode
where Ishmael allows him to see
846
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,080
past versions of himself.
So if remember.
847
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,760
He's a father, he remember.
He's a father of lies, but OK.
848
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,400
Well, yeah, that too.
But but one thing we do know is
849
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,600
that reincarnation is a theme in
this show.
850
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,920
It's, you know, the turning.
That's what the will is about.
851
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,880
So if your past self flourish
themselves to the dark 1, does
852
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,680
that follow you through each
turn of the wheel?
853
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,600
The likelihood of you.
OK, without giving away too
854
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:52,720
much, you, your soul is your
soul and who you are, as your
855
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:58,840
soul tends to be who you are.
So if you swear yourself to the
856
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,760
Dark One, you're going to do it
every turn of the wheel.
857
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:08,160
OK, right.
Which is sort of a weird kind of
858
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,600
trap because.
Yeah, because it's like.
859
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,480
That's that's you swearing
yourself 'cause you literally
860
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:16,720
swear yourself to him even in
death.
861
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,280
Yeah, and, and that's weird
because it's kind of like, it's
862
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:26,560
almost like your future selves
have no say even if, even if,
863
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,040
let's say they wanted to.
It's almost like they're
864
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,800
predestined not to.
Like there's no free will.
865
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,720
That means there's no free will
for that person.
866
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,040
That's a whole other
conversation, but OK, I'm I'm
867
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,840
wrapping, I'm wrapping my brain
around wow.
868
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:51,880
That that's why, that's why a
particular person, why he swore
869
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,120
to the Dark One, It's for that
very reason.
870
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,080
And I can't remember if he said
anything so far, but he's tired
871
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,120
of the same things.
Oh, Ishmael.
872
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,880
Yes, he did say something about
that in this episode.
873
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:13,000
Yeah, he was talking about.
He was talking about his his
874
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,400
dream is to one day close his
eyes to sleep and never wake up.
875
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:20,240
I do remember.
OK, so then it's so it's safe.
876
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:26,600
So it's safe to say that that
yes, he when he was when he was
877
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,280
nice to die, he was tired of all
this because once he realized
878
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,440
what was happening with the
pattern repeating over and over
879
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,440
again, he's like, we're all
suffering and he wants to end
880
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,480
that suffering.
He wants to break the wheel.
881
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,800
And that's why he swore to the
Dark one or one of the main
882
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:52,080
reasons why is he's tired of it
to see if he figured out.
883
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,080
It's been like an infinite
number of times that they've
884
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,840
done this.
Right.
885
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,240
And he's, he needs, he wants to
stop.
886
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,400
He's like, I'm just tired.
I just want to go to sleep.
887
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,440
I just want to take a long nap
and not think about none of this
888
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,440
stuff anymore.
Yeah.
889
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,120
But yeah.
But yeah, I guess I could
890
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:16,320
understand that, especially if
you remember bits and pieces of
891
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,400
your past life or your.
Yeah, I can.
892
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,640
And what did he say?
He drank.
893
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:26,240
He drank the tea himself and saw
all of his lives like this has
894
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:29,080
to stop.
Yeah, OK.
895
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,200
Damn ayahuasca.
Ayahuasca trip span every day.
896
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:37,560
All it takes is 1 bad trip to
fuck all that shit up and his
897
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,400
trip was fucked up.
Like Matt.
898
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,000
Yeah.
OK.
899
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,040
Yeah, we'll, we'll talk.
We'll talk about Matt's in a
900
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,720
minute.
Let's let's finish with I'm
901
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:50,280
there and her son.
But yeah, so she turns her son
902
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,360
in and I was kind of
questioning.
903
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,560
I was like OK y'all have 5
guards come for this man, are
904
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,640
y'all about to kill him now or
y'all taking him prisoner?
905
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,880
But I was like 'cause he doesn't
seem to be.
906
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,520
He doesn't seem like he would be
able to put up much of a fight.
907
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,920
But then again I don't know if
dark friends get any special
908
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,680
perks in.
They get a boost.
909
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,600
They get a stamp boost.
They get a.
910
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:23,880
They get a + 5 + 5 in strength
plus 3IN constitution.
911
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,840
But yeah.
But they didn't know, but that's
912
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,040
the point.
They didn't know if there was
913
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,680
something that he had or someone
that he could call on to help
914
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,320
him out.
So it's like, yeah, I'd have 5
915
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,360
or 10 guards too.
Just be like, Nah, just in case
916
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,800
because his mom was probably
like, I don't even know this
917
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,800
mother fucker anymore.
So no, I'm not going to go.
918
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,480
I'm not going to do this shit by
myself.
919
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,000
So Nah, I'm the I'm just going
to get a couple guards with me
920
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,400
just to make sure they're like
and after ready.
921
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:59,680
Yeah, but like I said, I feel so
bad for her because your whole,
922
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,600
your whole sense of self worth
has been shattered at this point
923
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,480
because you thought that the
stuff that you did, the
924
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:17,000
connections you made were what
brought your house back into the
925
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,840
status that it was supposed to
be.
926
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:25,680
And now you're learning that not
only was it not you, but it was
927
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,720
the the rewards, I guess, of
your son being a dark friend.
928
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,320
So is she going to lose
everything now?
929
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:39,160
Devastating to her, so is.
She going to lose like just are
930
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:40,720
they going to take everything
from her now?
931
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:44,960
I know.
I don't know.
932
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,000
I don't know.
I mean, I'm, I mean, there's no
933
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,320
royal wedding happening for
sure.
934
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,520
I don't know how much of I don't
know how much of her household
935
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,800
was, I don't know, provided by
the crown.
936
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,120
I mean, I know that the horses
that Moraine was talking about,
937
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,440
you know, I know that those were
gifts from the Queen, but I'm
938
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,040
sure some of the stuff she did,
you know, I'm not saying that
939
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,920
everything that that brought
them back up to status was
940
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:24,080
because of him.
Because for her to say very
941
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:29,480
proudly that she worked hard and
she did things in order for them
942
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,600
to to come back up.
I'm sure some of that was a
943
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,640
result of her, but most of it
and probably how quickly it
944
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,920
happened had to do with him.
So now it's.
945
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,720
Like is there like a isodai Rico
Rico case they could put up
946
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,640
against them where they can just
like repossess all their shit?
947
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:53,000
I just I will say this, I know
Moran has a lot going on and
948
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:58,400
like she just, she just left,
but I hope at some point she
949
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,320
makes amends with her sister
because I I realize all of that
950
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,200
is not important to her within
the grand scheme of things.
951
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,880
But again, that is her sister.
That is her home.
952
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,480
Just at least say, I'm so sorry
that it came to this, you know,
953
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,760
just something.
Right.
954
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,760
I mean, she, she's probably
willing to listen now, now that
955
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,760
she's gone through this with her
son, she's probably more, more
956
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,000
willing to listen because she,
she said it herself.
957
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,440
She realized that, that, you
know, despite everything
958
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,120
Lorraine always did what's
right.
959
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:40,160
So she kind of, she kind of has
the start of being there and
960
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,000
saying, OK, maybe we should talk
it out a little bit at least
961
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,560
just try and you know.
But then but then again, it's a
962
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,360
2 day screen.
But it's a two way St. though.
963
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,280
It's like Moraine has to want
to, too.
964
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,280
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Right now, Moraine has a lot on
965
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,040
her plate, but I'm hoping at
some point she can at least just
966
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,720
say, hey, sis, thanks for having
my back.
967
00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:04,360
Because her sister could have
easily just let them leave
968
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,080
Moraine.
If she was really that petty,
969
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,400
she could have easily just been
like, OK, hey, Barthanis wants
970
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,680
to talk to you.
She, me, she.
971
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,960
Knows.
She knows better.
972
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:22,880
I know, but we know.
We know Moraine probably would
973
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,920
never step foot and Kyrie in
again.
974
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,880
Moraine not only has bigger fish
to fry, she's playing the great
975
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,440
game.
Yeah, these little pieces mean
976
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:38,640
absolutely nothing to her.
I know because what she's doing
977
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,760
is going to save everybody.
It's what Lamb told Rand.
978
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,720
Just to.
Worry about the people close to
979
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,280
you.
If it wasn't for your sister,
980
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,520
you wouldn't even know where
Rand was.
981
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,840
You wouldn't have gone.
Her sister, her sister knows
982
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,120
better.
Her sister knows and, and, and
983
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:03,160
on some level, her sister does
know that Marine is trying to do
984
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,200
something greater.
Yeah.
985
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:06,360
She.
Knows.
986
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,080
She knows that.
And she knows that, yes, she has
987
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,560
to be the one to keep this
family.
988
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,880
She's the one that has to keep
off.
989
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:19,600
She's the one because it it
doesn't mean anything if
990
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,040
everyone is dead.
It means nothing if Marine can't
991
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,360
do, if I said I can't do what
they're supposed to do,
992
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,800
everyone's going to die.
So she's going to, she she has
993
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,160
to let Marine be that way.
Like, yeah, it would be nice if
994
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,000
Marine would come back and have
some tea with her, like since
995
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,480
I'm sorry I left you, but no.
Probably not going to happen.
996
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,160
Yeah, Marine didn't have time
for that.
997
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,480
I know, I know.
Didn't have time for that.
998
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,640
I know.
But OK, since we talked about
999
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:54,760
Matt and Ishmael, let's let's go
to that part because again, last
1000
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,800
episode, the last we saw Matt,
he was he was kind of hiding at
1001
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,040
the gate.
He was supposed to meet Rand to
1002
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,400
go with him in the farm and he
kind of chickened out.
1003
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,080
Well, I won't say chicken out.
He backed out because men told
1004
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:12,040
him that, you know, he kills
Rand and then he gets knocked
1005
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,200
out.
And I thought about what Anthony
1006
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,880
said last week, like just go
with Rand Farm because if men
1007
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,280
saw the vision, it's gonna
happen anyway no matter how you
1008
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,720
get there.
And what happens?
1009
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:31,280
Matt gets knocked out and wakes
up where and fall because land
1010
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,360
fear has brought him there.
And he sit here thinking, is
1011
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,040
this a dream?
She was like, oh, no, you are,
1012
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,280
you are very much awake.
And he walks out to the balcony
1013
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,920
and he opens and he sees nothing
but water.
1014
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,920
He was thinking how and be hell
did I get here?
1015
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,880
I mean at least he got
oceanfront.
1016
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,320
I mean he could have had inside
room.
1017
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,320
That would have really sucked.
I don't think it matters because
1018
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,560
I think at this point Matt is
kind of scared shitless because
1019
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,480
I mean, even Laugher was like, I
really thought you would be more
1020
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,040
what did she say?
More impressive?
1021
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,840
And Matt is sitting here like,
why you just going to insult me
1022
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,680
after I just got knocked out and
I've been brought who knows
1023
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,120
where?
Who knows how like give me a
1024
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,680
second to get my bearings
together before you just start
1025
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,320
insulting me.
I know he was like.
1026
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,000
And I don't think he asked her
who she was and she never gave
1027
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,440
her name, did she?
Because I'm wondering when Rand
1028
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,400
was telling him about
everything, I know he told Matt
1029
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,920
about Ishmael having E Gwen and
foam and I know he probably told
1030
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,440
him of some of that.
I wondered, did he also tell
1031
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,800
Matt about Celine slash land
fear because she did he.
1032
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,720
Just said, he just said there
was a woman and he's like, oh,
1033
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,720
older.
He's like, yeah, OK.
1034
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,200
That was about it, OK.
Because I think if she had said
1035
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,200
her name, Matt probably would
have maybe figured out who it
1036
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,400
was.
No, He Rand didn't tell me
1037
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,720
anything.
OK, OK.
1038
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,720
But yeah, so he he ends up
waking up in foam.
1039
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,520
And after he, you know, sees
where he is, the next thing we
1040
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,680
see is Ishmael preparing the tea
for Matt.
1041
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,000
And he's telling him about, you
know, like you said, the whole
1042
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,000
cycle of everything repeating
itself.
1043
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,560
And I'm just tired.
I just, I just want to go to
1044
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,880
sleep.
And what did he say?
1045
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,680
He said the first time I drank
this tea, he said this tea will
1046
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,720
show you all your past lives.
He was like, don't you really
1047
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:43,880
want to know who you are, Matt?
And he was like, the first time
1048
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:48,160
I drank this tea, I slept all
night for the first time ever
1049
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,040
because I knew who I was.
I'm surprised Mike didn't
1050
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,880
interrupt you and say you missed
the most important line.
1051
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:01,120
Which was?
Which was Is this a sex thing?
1052
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,880
What is that thing?
Right, right, right.
1053
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:09,840
Thing or murder thing and he
said whichever one it is I
1054
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,440
really just want you to skip the
talk.
1055
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,120
He was like if you going to fuck
me or kill me, just get on with
1056
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:17,720
it.
Either way.
1057
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,640
Either way.
I miss Shamel is not a bad
1058
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,520
looking dude so I I can see the
OK.
1059
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,280
Are we doing this or are we
doing that?
1060
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,800
So, yeah, I mean, it's not,
it's, it's smell.
1061
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,720
We it's been shown that it
smells with it.
1062
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,880
So I mean.
We'll just, oh, you talking
1063
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,080
about 'cause he cut 'cause of
that, that whole dream where he
1064
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:45,880
was kind of cuddled up to Rand.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm just
1065
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,880
saying.
But yeah, that whole thing is
1066
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:54,800
just like, I mean, the Ishmael
gets me because he's always so
1067
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:59,320
fucking calm and it's like he's
just like chilling.
1068
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,800
It's like, yeah, my plans
couldn't work.
1069
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,640
Doesn't matter what you do.
I'm not.
1070
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,120
So I'm not gonna get, I'm not
gonna get worked up that shit.
1071
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,520
So yeah.
So he's thinking about don't let
1072
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,240
people 15 minutes.
Didn't drink it though.
1073
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,600
Or not, whatever, I'll be back.
Think about how many times he
1074
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,920
has he has done this song and
dance.
1075
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,640
Yeah, he's probably bored at
this point.
1076
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,880
He's probably very bored.
Things are going to either work
1077
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,640
or they're or they're not like
his.
1078
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,960
His confidence level, you know,
can be up there.
1079
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,760
We'll try maybe a little
something different this time,
1080
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,520
you know?
So if it doesn't work, oh, well,
1081
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:41,920
you got another chance.
Yeah.
1082
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,800
Right.
OK, I have to ask because I've
1083
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,880
seen this scene maybe three
times and it's still kind of
1084
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:55,000
confusing to me.
Walk me through Matt's visions
1085
01:03:55,040 --> 01:04:00,560
of his current past former
selves because I was so
1086
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,840
confused.
Are you talking about the
1087
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,240
visions he just had in in this
episode?
1088
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,360
Yes, the ones that he had of I
guess supposed to be his past
1089
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,080
selves.
And he sees his mother, his
1090
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,960
mother saying you're just like
him, you're just like him.
1091
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:21,160
And there's a there's an image
of him hanging where it looks
1092
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,600
like he either hung himself or
he killed or someone killed him
1093
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,160
and hung him.
There's another image of him
1094
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,760
drowning someone in a bathtub.
And then there's the the image
1095
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:37,560
of him and his mother, like he's
on the ground, his mother's
1096
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,440
cradling him.
And then all of a sudden they're
1097
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,680
transposed.
And then he's looking at
1098
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,160
himself.
I was like, wait, this is, this
1099
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,920
is way too much going on way too
fast.
1100
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,280
Just.
Don't.
1101
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,640
Don't overthink it.
So.
1102
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,920
But you can't tell me none of
that means.
1103
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,560
I didn't say none of it means
anything.
1104
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,600
I just said don't overthink it.
But I want to take it for
1105
01:04:58,600 --> 01:04:59,880
Anthony.
That's what I do.
1106
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,360
Thank you for face value.
Thank you for face value.
1107
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:11,000
So, so face value is these are
past versions of himself and
1108
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,160
past versions of himself are
violent.
1109
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:19,040
It could either be, but you also
OK.
1110
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:25,680
They could either be glimpses of
him and other realities.
1111
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,480
They could be glimpses of his
future.
1112
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,920
They could be glimpses of his
past.
1113
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,600
OK.
This know that one of the main,
1114
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,920
you know, one of the main things
about being the father of lies
1115
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:49,160
is manipulating the truth.
So what you see may not
1116
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,960
necessarily be in it's like
men's visions.
1117
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,720
Just because you see it doesn't
necessarily give it.
1118
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,120
It doesn't have any context.
All these things that you see
1119
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,040
have no context.
Right.
1120
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,400
So it's hard to walk you through
them when we don't have any
1121
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,840
context from this.
That's why it's so off putting
1122
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,560
either.
Yeah, I can show you your past
1123
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,760
lives, OK, But you don't know,
those could have been
1124
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,240
self-defense moments where he
was trying to protect himself
1125
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:21,320
from someone trying to kill.
Him.
1126
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,560
Like that doesn't make you a
dark person.
1127
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,560
Yeah, I guess the way that they
present it, and yeah, it is a
1128
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,800
little bit like manipulation
even to us as the viewers,
1129
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,880
because we already have it in
his mind that supposedly he's
1130
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,560
going to kill Rand.
So now you're showing him all
1131
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:45,000
these images of oh, look, here's
you drowning somebody.
1132
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,960
Oh, look, here's you hanging
like you killed yourself.
1133
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:52,600
That still being a killer.
Oh look, your mom is saying
1134
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,240
these bad things about you,
which, you know, I I never liked
1135
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,640
his mom from jump, but you know.
But one of his insecurities is
1136
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,240
he doesn't want to be like his
father.
1137
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,600
So of course she would say that
you're just like him.
1138
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,400
That's playing on his
insecurities.
1139
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,320
Yeah, yeah.
So, OK.
1140
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,920
Yeah, looking at it like that, I
can see how, like you said,
1141
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:17,120
there's no context.
So we don't know exactly what it
1142
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,800
is that he's being shown, but
it's enough to, I think, freak
1143
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,520
him out.
Yeah, it is.
1144
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,480
Yeah, and and maybe that's what
that's, that's the mindset they
1145
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,320
probably want him in for
whatever it is they're going to
1146
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,200
have that's going to happen with
him in the next episode.
1147
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:38,200
He's.
The one that's like unstable and
1148
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,760
most likely but closest to
suggestion, just because of how
1149
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,280
the dagger treated him.
It's like they're probably still
1150
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,400
trying to take advantage of
that.
1151
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,000
Yeah.
And I think at the end when
1152
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,160
Ishmael is actually cradling
him, and I think that's when
1153
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:57,080
Ishmael says the whole thing
about all of this being done
1154
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,080
over over.
He was like, I just, I just want
1155
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,240
to close my eyes and go to sleep
and not wake up.
1156
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,800
And Matt is looking at him and
he has, you know, he's got a
1157
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,960
tear coming out his eye.
He kind of smiles a little bit
1158
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,280
like, yeah, I think I wanted to.
I was like, no, Matt, that's not
1159
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,080
what we want.
Don't listen to him.
1160
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:19,399
But it's kind of like it, it, it
felt like with all of the stuff
1161
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:23,120
that Matt has been through and
the stuff that he's just been
1162
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:27,000
shown, they're trying to get
Matt to a point where he feels
1163
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:31,439
helpless, where he feels like,
oh, there's no point in all of
1164
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,439
this.
Let me just go and again, that
1165
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,080
makes me feel like Matt is
supposed to do something
1166
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,760
important because y'all are
trying so hard to bring this
1167
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,399
dude down.
Like you said, Anthony, the way
1168
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:48,080
that they've written him in the
show, it's almost like he's
1169
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,800
supposed to be a throwaway
character, you know, like, oh,
1170
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,640
Matt is the unreliable friend.
Matt is the unlucky 1.
1171
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,160
Matt is the one that he was
locked up in a cell for six
1172
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:03,359
months and no one, you know, no
one knew where he was and nobody
1173
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:07,000
cared enough to see, you know,
to try to find him or it.
1174
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,040
It feels like that's what
they're trying to do.
1175
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,680
They're trying to make Matt feel
like he's this character, he's
1176
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,600
this person that nobody cares
about and that his existence
1177
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,880
doesn't matter.
And I'm like, yeah, there's
1178
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,359
something big Matt is going to
end up doing or being, and
1179
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:23,080
that's why y'all are trying to,
to hold him down.
1180
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,960
I think at least that's the way
I, you know, I, I feel,
1181
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:32,720
especially with everything going
on with the others as well.
1182
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,399
It's like you're you're
purposefully keeping them apart
1183
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:38,800
and now you're trying to bring
them together, either to kill
1184
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,200
them or because they're about to
do something awesome.
1185
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,520
Are you talking about the the
Rand crew bringing them all back
1186
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,640
together?
The the Two Rivers crew, yes.
1187
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,880
Yeah, so yeah, they but
remember, see Lanfield told him
1188
01:09:51,880 --> 01:10:01,120
what what the plan was.
Yeah, the plan was to yeah and
1189
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:06,680
and give me the option of
joining them or killing them,
1190
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,400
so.
And I guess they figured they'd
1191
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:13,080
try with Matt first, because
Matt seems to be the weakest
1192
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,640
link.
Well, they're going to have if
1193
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:22,480
it if, if witch McCauley hadn't
escaped none Eve because of
1194
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,720
Elaine.
Like if Elaine hadn't been there
1195
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,960
they probably would have Nanny
and Wayne.
1196
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:28,800
Yes.
So.
1197
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,000
So let's move on to that part of
the conversation.
1198
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:37,120
They probably have and then they
would have all of them and he
1199
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:41,600
already he got parent already so
he has them all.
1200
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:46,520
Well, he doesn't have parent
yet, but he got he got to him.
1201
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,560
He got to him.
Yeah, when when he was in the
1202
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:50,360
cart.
But remember.
1203
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,120
Yeah, because he he he knows
where he is.
1204
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,960
Yeah, I mean, he's literally
outside home now.
1205
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,160
Right.
And he also said he ain't going
1206
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,600
to mind it because by the time
he gets here he's going to be
1207
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,760
more wolf than man anyway and he
ain't going to care so.
1208
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,280
Yeah, yeah.
OK, Let's we'll, we'll come back
1209
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,880
to parent.
Let's let's go back to 9.
1210
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,720
Even Iguan.
I mean Nineve and Elaine,
1211
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,880
because Nineve is you know,
they're they're walking around
1212
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,400
disguised and nanny was trying
to come up with a plan and
1213
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,240
Elaine was like, no, we tried to
Joe away.
1214
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:30,040
That shit didn't work.
You do what I say and follow me
1215
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:35,880
and and nanny was looking at her
like the hell, but she followed
1216
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:41,720
her and what Elaine, I I guess
what she led them to do it.
1217
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,360
It worked.
They were able to see L'Oreal,
1218
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,640
let L'Oreal know that they were
in the city.
1219
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,600
They were able to find out some
information about E Gwen and
1220
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:56,480
about the the dynamic dynami,
the the the money yes and and
1221
01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:03,600
the you know so Dom that's it
right so Dom so and.
1222
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,200
The kennels.
Yep, and the kennels and and
1223
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:10,200
where it was located.
And so they come up with a plan.
1224
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:16,320
Or maybe Elaine comes up with
the plan, but her plan so far
1225
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:21,080
seems brilliant.
They have the a Dom that Remus
1226
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:25,240
Sadai had, and they were like,
OK, so do you think this will
1227
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,840
work?
What do you think it'll do to
1228
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,240
her?
When we put it on, I was like,
1229
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,360
wait, who are they going to put
it on?
1230
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:36,960
And it was one of the Sodoms
coming through the coming
1231
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,560
through the way.
And they basically they shock
1232
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,280
her because Naive has the cuff
on her arm.
1233
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,640
And when she's looking at Naive
and she's come confused, they
1234
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,120
put it on her and then they
knock her out.
1235
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,280
I was like, oh, that's how
they're going to get in.
1236
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:58,240
Because if you think about it,
my knee looks close enough to
1237
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:03,040
what what the SIL Dom look like
because she also wears her hair
1238
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,720
and braids that we've seen the
other SIL Dom do.
1239
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,400
So I was like, oh, OK, they're
going to try to fake their way
1240
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:15,320
in, which is going to be kind
of, that's going to be kind of
1241
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,120
dangerous because of course
nobody knows Nanny's face.
1242
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,400
So they're going to look at her
with some suspicion, right?
1243
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,240
If that's what they do, if
that's what they.
1244
01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:25,440
Do.
Yeah.
1245
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,040
I mean, I mean, but that nanny,
nanny was already bossy enough
1246
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:33,720
to to be like, yeah, it's fine.
I mean, yeah, I hope that she
1247
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,720
does something because it's like
I'm getting tired of her just
1248
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,400
like Spark, Spark not not doing
anything.
1249
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:45,160
I'm just like.
Except for having an attitude
1250
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:50,280
and rushing headlong into stuff.
And you know, at least we did
1251
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:54,560
see a little bit of, I don't
want to say joy, but she was
1252
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,360
happy to see Loyale.
She was happy to see that he was
1253
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:02,360
unhurt, even though he like I
said, he is a servant of the
1254
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,280
Sean Chan.
But you know, he's he's walking
1255
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:10,760
around the the market freely.
So his circumstances aren't as
1256
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,440
bad as like, say, E Gwain's, but
you know.
1257
01:14:14,440 --> 01:14:16,640
I want, I want to, I want to
smack them little kids upside
1258
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,000
the head that were laughing at
him as he was walking past.
1259
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,200
You know what, little kids are
going to be assholes.
1260
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:27,520
That I mean that that is true in
any genre, including real life.
1261
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,560
Kids are going to be assholes to
people who look different from
1262
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:35,560
them.
So, yeah, whatever with them
1263
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:41,960
children, we don't care.
But in Gwaine, let's move to her
1264
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:49,000
because they have this little
test of I guess, I guess it's
1265
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,680
the show, the, the, the power or
the connection, the bond between
1266
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:58,440
the Sodom and the Damani.
And you have this one pair that
1267
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:00,080
goes and does this
demonstration.
1268
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,400
It's supposed to be like, what
was it that you say it might
1269
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:08,640
before we start recording their,
their air bending and you see
1270
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,720
the first group they, they do
their little thing and they, you
1271
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,560
know, they cause some a little
bit of a shockwave and she's
1272
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,200
like, oh, OK, that wave almost
touched us.
1273
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:19,840
Yeah, almost took that.
Cool.
1274
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:30,160
And Rena, Rena, let me say, let
me let me say about her when
1275
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:35,560
she's talking to Dwayne, it's so
frustrating because she starts
1276
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:40,040
out very complimentary to E
Gwen.
1277
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,840
And then what is it that Falcon
said?
1278
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,040
And Falcon in The Winter Soldier
is always that last sentence was
1279
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,080
that last thing.
It's always that last sentence
1280
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,040
She's telling me, Gwen.
Yeah, this is a demonstration of
1281
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,560
our power.
She was like, what was the first
1282
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,560
thing she said?
She said don't embarrass me or
1283
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,240
you or you will pay.
And at this point, a Gwaine has
1284
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,040
the full outfit on.
So she has the Adam on.
1285
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,280
She has the the gag in her
mouth.
1286
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,320
She can't speak.
And I'm just sitting here like,
1287
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,400
So they get ready to go and do
their thing.
1288
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:22,040
And Rena is giving her the
compliments.
1289
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,480
Yeah.
This is the show, the bond.
1290
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,480
Did you see her light?
Your light is going to surpass
1291
01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:30,480
her.
You're going to be better than
1292
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:31,920
you know.
You're going to be better than
1293
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,240
anyone you're going to be.
You're going to shine brighter
1294
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:35,920
than everyone.
Acting her.
1295
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,240
Up and then that last sentence
and then everyone will know your
1296
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,160
mind.
I was like see bitch it.
1297
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,320
You should have just left it
where it was.
1298
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:50,440
But I understand she's still
trying to make E Gwen feel less
1299
01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:54,680
than.
So they get out there and Gwen
1300
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,720
is looking around and she's
looking mad and what was it Rena
1301
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,520
said to her?
She was like don't worry I don't
1302
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,800
need you for this.
Meaning I just need to take some
1303
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,760
of your some of your your weaves
and I can do this part by
1304
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,800
myself.
Gwen was like Nope.
1305
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:17,600
She powered up and she put out a
blast so hard that it knocked
1306
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:23,200
everyone off their feet.
And they felt and heard it in
1307
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:27,680
the city.
Now, I was kind of wondering
1308
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:32,080
about this because I was like, E
Gwen, do you really need to show
1309
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,160
how powerful you are?
Because I would think that would
1310
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:40,720
be detrimental for her to show.
Yeah, I'm, I'm.
1311
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,960
I'm so powerful.
I'm so powerful because I feel
1312
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:49,000
like that would make them, I
don't know, maybe try to contain
1313
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:54,080
her a little bit more.
They like that and also she
1314
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,480
could look at like it's a
warning.
1315
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,840
Y'all been?
Kidding, I did think that too,
1316
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,200
especially after the exchange
that she had with Renna later
1317
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,920
on.
I was like OK, because when they
1318
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:11,280
had the exchange later, Renna
comes into a Wayne's cell, which
1319
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,280
I noticed now has a bed.
I was like, OK, so I guess a
1320
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:20,200
Wayne has been, she's been a lap
dog, but long enough that
1321
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,960
they're like, oh, we're going to
give you a bed.
1322
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,520
Or she's shown enough power that
they're like, oh, we're going to
1323
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,000
give you a bed.
We're going to.
1324
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,920
Reward you.
She's a good enough girl to
1325
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,400
actually get one, you know,
right?
1326
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,440
She gets water now.
She gets a bed, right?
1327
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:34,040
Keep it up.
Get a pillow for that bed.
1328
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,800
So when Rena comes in with the
bowl of water, E Gwen is looking
1329
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,920
at her kind of suspect, like OK,
what is she about to have me do?
1330
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,120
Because we know a Gwen does not
have a good track record with
1331
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:53,760
water while she's been Damani
and Renaissance a sponge.
1332
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,120
And she's like, roll up your
sleeves and she starts like
1333
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,520
gently washing her hands and her
arms.
1334
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,640
And I was like, what are y'all
trying to do here?
1335
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,880
What are y'all trying to do
here?
1336
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,960
Are y'all trying to make it seem
like I I don't know.
1337
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:15,320
I don't know if they were trying
to make it seem like Rena not
1338
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,880
has feelings for Wayne, not in
that sense.
1339
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:23,400
But again, I think Rena
mentioned in last episode how
1340
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,120
the Damani and Suldom bond.
They're supposed to be close.
1341
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,040
There's, you know, she's trying
to be friends.
1342
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,080
So I don't know if she thinks
that's appealing to Egwayne.
1343
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,400
And then she starts wiping her
face and she's like, I
1344
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,640
understand why you fight me.
So because no one has told you
1345
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:44,080
why we are here.
And she said the, the, the, the
1346
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:51,120
main task of the queen is to
unite all of the people under
1347
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,520
the light.
And we are all a part of that,
1348
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,920
you and I included.
We're a big part of that, which
1349
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,560
on the one hand is supposed to
sound good, right?
1350
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:04,520
You guys are for the light,
which is supposed to be better
1351
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,320
than the dark, right?
It's supposed to be the good
1352
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,080
part.
But the way that you're going
1353
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,520
about it, like if, if that's
been on the good side, I don't,
1354
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,560
I don't want to be on the good
side if that means I got to be
1355
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,360
your slave, if I got to be your
pet.
1356
01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:21,160
I can understand E Wayne like
whatever, because what she says
1357
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:25,840
next, she's looking at Rena and
she's so relaxed and she was
1358
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:32,840
like Rena, Rena's like, yes, E
Wayne, I'm going to kill you.
1359
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,000
And the fact that she said it
was.
1360
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:39,880
A smile on her face.
She said it.
1361
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,840
Was not like went back, went
back to the braid in her hair
1362
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,000
like yeah right.
Can't wait to kill this bitch.
1363
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:50,800
And Rental was so mad as she
leaves, but I was like, I feel
1364
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,440
like there was something more
happening in that moment because
1365
01:20:54,440 --> 01:20:58,600
she was able to say those words.
And and if you think about it,
1366
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,560
if you're saying that you're
going to kill somebody,
1367
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,120
obviously you're thinking it and
you're feeling it.
1368
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,000
And no harm came to her.
Nothing happened to her.
1369
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,360
She didn't, she didn't get the
electric, you know, the
1370
01:21:10,440 --> 01:21:13,800
electrocution from the Adam like
she did in the first episode.
1371
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,640
In the first few days, weeks
when she was there, I was like.
1372
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,240
Oh well, she found the loophole.
Yeah, that's what I was going to
1373
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:21,920
say.
She wasn't.
1374
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,160
She wasn't thinking about a
weapon.
1375
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,720
She wasn't thinking about using
something as weapon.
1376
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,640
She just stated in fact, I will
kill you.
1377
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:35,640
She wasn't thinking of any
weapons or anything, OK was
1378
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,760
telling her.
And I thought, I, I thought also
1379
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:43,840
it might have been because she
was being very passive in that
1380
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:50,240
exchange, you know, and it's
like she sat there, Rena came to
1381
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,320
her.
Rena was the one who was
1382
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:56,120
initiating the contact.
She was the one initiating the,
1383
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,680
the, the conversation.
She was the one that was kind of
1384
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,520
sort of putting herself out
there anyway, was just sitting
1385
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,120
there.
So it's like she didn't react.
1386
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,880
She didn't, you know, she was
just kind of there.
1387
01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:12,240
And I think that's probably part
of it too, because she, like you
1388
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,480
said, she wasn't actively
thinking like, oh, I'm a kill
1389
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:18,200
this bitch.
She just said it as a fact with
1390
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:24,560
no emotion behind it, with no
anger, no nothing.
1391
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:30,560
So I was like, oh, so she
displayed a very significant
1392
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,680
show of force earlier and then
she told you she's going to kill
1393
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,920
you and nothing negative
happened to her.
1394
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,680
Yeah, your time is about to
come, bitch, cuz Wayne is
1395
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:45,120
figuring some shit out.
I'm ready for it.
1396
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,600
I am ready for it.
Anyway.
1397
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,800
I'm just saying.
This whole situation has got you
1398
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:58,960
wound up.
Bro, let me tell you, I'm just
1399
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:03,760
sitting here like holding it in
just like OK Gwen come on one
1400
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,520
more episode, one more episode
cuz she's got to do something
1401
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,840
next episode.
Next episode is season finale.
1402
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,440
You are not going to tell me
that it Gwen is still going to
1403
01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:13,320
be a demonic going into season
3.
1404
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:17,400
That is unacceptable so.
That would be so fucked up.
1405
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:21,720
That would be so fun.
And you can tell it's been it's
1406
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,360
been some weeks because her face
has completely healed.
1407
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:30,360
Like she doesn't even have a
bruise, her face is completely
1408
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,080
healed so she.
She could.
1409
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,520
She could have had another
another.
1410
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,000
She could have had another.
The money to heal her.
1411
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,720
Yeah, she could have, I guess,
if she felt like it.
1412
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,120
Wayne was being compliant
enough.
1413
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:46,040
Maybe.
Yeah.
1414
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:53,960
But OK, let's when.
Let's see.
1415
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,240
Where do we want to go?
Do we want to go to Perrin?
1416
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,560
Perrin.
Let's talk about Perrin and
1417
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:05,280
Avianda and the other Ayeel.
Wayne and Chiad.
1418
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:07,480
Yeah.
Yeah, otherwise known as
1419
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,800
otherwise known as Wheel of Time
presents Dune.
1420
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,160
And it was so dark.
Is it supposed to be dark like
1421
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,000
that?
What you mean?
1422
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:24,120
The well towards the end when
they're going towards farm.
1423
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,640
Oh, it's all.
There's no St. lamps.
1424
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,600
Well, I'm just I, I, I guess
it's, I guess it's closer
1425
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,480
tonight.
It just seemed weird because.
1426
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,360
It was really dark.
OK, OK, it was.
1427
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,320
Really dark.
I had to think about that was
1428
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,400
like, wait, they have been
walking for quite a while maybe.
1429
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:47,840
But yeah, so parent gets
introduced to two more IEO
1430
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:53,120
people and the entrance.
Maidens, Maidens of the spear.
1431
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,240
Is that what they're called?
OK, Maidens of the Spear.
1432
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,880
So he's introduced the two more
and they, they communicate with
1433
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,280
each other through kind of like
a sign language.
1434
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,560
And it bothers me because
there's no translation on the
1435
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,080
screen.
You know, I watch with closed
1436
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,640
captioning.
So I'm like, there's a little
1437
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:14,360
bit 'cause like at the end I see
when they finally get to farm
1438
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,040
and they see all the water,
they're like, this is all water.
1439
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,680
How?
So I'm assuming where there's
1440
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:23,280
water outside of farm now that's
usually not water there.
1441
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,400
No.
No, OK.
1442
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,680
They were born and raised in the
desert.
1443
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,560
That's right.
I was going to say because they
1444
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:33,680
talk about how dry the land is
where they are all the time.
1445
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:39,160
Yeah, and, and and here they
bury their, I forgot her name,
1446
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,520
but they bury her there because
it reminded them of home.
1447
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:46,200
Yeah, yeah, So.
And what was it that she said
1448
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:47,640
happened?
Avienda?
1449
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:52,120
She said that she was defending
herself and the other girl took
1450
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,440
a spear to the back or a knife
to the back.
1451
01:25:55,200 --> 01:26:00,280
And while she was captured by
the white cloaks, her, the other
1452
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,000
girl died from an infection.
They couldn't, they couldn't
1453
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:09,200
heal it, the white folks.
So she has this kind of exchange
1454
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,360
with the other two girls and
they kind of look at each other
1455
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,400
in agreement.
And then they go off to the
1456
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,920
side.
They start shedding themselves
1457
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,600
with like their weapons and like
the extra clothing.
1458
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,920
And she literally just puts her
arm down and stands there.
1459
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,840
And I was like, oh, that's gonna
whoop my ass.
1460
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:29,080
Which is exactly what they did.
And then she explains to Parent
1461
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,640
later on, 'cause Parent is
looking like, yo, Hopper is over
1462
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,480
there growling.
Hopper is like, I don't like
1463
01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:36,400
this, but I'm not about to get
involved.
1464
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,360
Heron looks and he's about to
step in.
1465
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,880
The other girl was like, don't.
Heron was like OK, my bad.
1466
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,960
And then she explains that
that's her.
1467
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,120
I guess that's like her her her
punishment.
1468
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:53,840
It's her obligation.
Her obligation?
1469
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,280
The Yeah Gia toe, which is duty
and obligation.
1470
01:26:57,480 --> 01:27:02,160
OK, yeah, because, because her
friend got killed.
1471
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,880
One of the I the IO way yes,
duty and.
1472
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:07,520
Application.
It's like mutual flagellation.
1473
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,720
Oh.
My God.
1474
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,760
Yeah.
So after that they're walking on
1475
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:18,160
the way to farm and parent is
like so, so y'all cool now?
1476
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,360
Like everything is OK.
She was like, look, I, I, I did
1477
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,560
what I was supposed to do.
I had, you know, I had my
1478
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,520
obligation.
He said kind of like your
1479
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,800
obligation to me.
She was like, it's dishonorable
1480
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,160
for you to mention that.
But yes, I was like that.
1481
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,400
That was another.
I was thinking of Falcon in The
1482
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,080
Winter Soldier.
You know, he's out of line, but
1483
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:41,560
he's right.
So yeah, but.
1484
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,760
But you're right, you did remind
me of Dune because they were
1485
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,040
like, look at all this water.
And, and it was making me think
1486
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:53,720
of the scene in the movie where
where Paul was telling Johnny
1487
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,960
about his home planet.
Oh yeah.
1488
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,840
It comes out, it just falls from
the sky.
1489
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:03,440
Yeah, we're everywhere.
Yeah, we swim in it and
1490
01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:04,480
everything.
She was like, what?
1491
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,400
So, yeah.
But they, they, they walk up and
1492
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,720
they're like, here's all this
water here.
1493
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,800
How is it?
And, and parent just looks and
1494
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:19,040
he's like foam and he just has
this look of I don't know if
1495
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,920
it's determination or
resignation, but he's just kind
1496
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,320
of like, OK, whatever whatever's
about to happen is about to
1497
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:26,400
happen.
We're here.
1498
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,760
There's no turning back now.
But at least he has three
1499
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:36,080
warriors by his side, which I I
found it interesting because I
1500
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:40,320
don't know if Avienda's
obligation to parent because he
1501
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:44,200
saved her are her friends like
tagging along for that?
1502
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:44,800
OK, so.
This.
1503
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,240
This hers alone.
OK, so they they just going
1504
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,680
along for the ride.
They're like oh y'all going to
1505
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,320
fight?
We going to go fight too.
1506
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:56,520
Well, they, they, they have a
they're, they're on the quest to
1507
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,120
find the Kara Khan.
Oh, that's right.
1508
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,320
That's right.
OK, I do remember that little
1509
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:08,080
bit because she mentioned that.
What was that 2 episodes ago
1510
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,440
when she was telling parent what
they were doing?
1511
01:29:10,440 --> 01:29:14,880
OK, so all right.
Wait is the car is carcom bit
1512
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,040
going to be rain?
The chief of chiefs.
1513
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,040
Oh God.
OK, fine.
1514
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:29,280
Look, you, you with the Rand
hate, you are going to stop with
1515
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,520
the Rand hate.
Hey, hey, look, it it took, it
1516
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,920
took me an hour.
It took me an hour, 45 minutes
1517
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,280
to actually start to say
something bad about Rand this
1518
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:38,200
time.
I'm getting better.
1519
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,800
I'm just saying, look, that this
could be discriminatory.
1520
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,680
I didn't even say anything.
You're discriminating against a
1521
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:46,640
young person.
You're discriminating against a
1522
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:51,240
ginger person.
Oh my God, You and you and you
1523
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,440
and your, You and your.
Your gender.
1524
01:29:53,440 --> 01:29:55,640
Gender rights.
Active activism.
1525
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,680
Ginger rights.
Activism.
1526
01:29:59,960 --> 01:30:03,080
That's right.
Be nice to the gingers.
1527
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,440
I'm just, I'm just saying it's
like.
1528
01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:10,600
I apologize to all gingers on
behalf of the fan of Hybrid.
1529
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:12,640
You ain't got to apologize to
that for me.
1530
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,080
I loves me.
I'm listening to some gingers.
1531
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:16,240
I'm not even.
You know this my.
1532
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,800
Best friends are gingers.
Mike is Mike's views are his own
1533
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,920
and not reflective of the
family.
1534
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,520
Don't, don't put me in that
category.
1535
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,000
Stop.
Stop it right now.
1536
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,840
Calm down.
And don't, don't, don't pull to
1537
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,400
some of my best friends or
genders.
1538
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,000
That's the same.
That's the same bullshit stuff
1539
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,800
we hear white people say about
black people.
1540
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:36,960
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
1541
01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:39,440
I'm just saying it's true
though.
1542
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:47,320
But I'm, I'm just OK.
I'm I'm, I'm, I'm slowly, I'm
1543
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,800
slowly coming around the end of
this episode.
1544
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,000
Maybe come, maybe come around a
little bit on Ran.
1545
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:57,880
I was like, OK, like.
And now he's had time to process
1546
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,640
some stuff.
Right, so I'm so I'm telling
1547
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,280
you, I'm giving him I'm I'm
coming around a little bit on
1548
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,480
him.
So I'm like, OK, because that
1549
01:31:05,480 --> 01:31:10,000
because that was cool that he
that he is, he was able to to
1550
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,920
not kill Moraine and cut the
knot instead of like like
1551
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:14,880
injuring her.
I was like.
1552
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,200
Oh, OK.
So we we can go back to to
1553
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:23,440
Land's meeting with Logane.
Yes, we we can talk about Land
1554
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:27,880
fulfilling his obligation as a
warder because again, Land from
1555
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,240
the beginning of this episode,
he was on a mission.
1556
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,960
He was trying.
To scuba doing this thing out.
1557
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,840
What can I do?
How can I help her?
1558
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:37,680
How can I?
I don't think.
1559
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,600
I don't even think it was fixing
her that was in his mind.
1560
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,560
He was just like, how can I help
her?
1561
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,560
And you know, when he and
Moraine had the conversation at
1562
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,760
the beginning of the episode,
she's pissed off with him
1563
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,960
because he's now brought Suwan
into this whole thing with the
1564
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,400
Dragon Reborn and where he's
supposed to go and everything.
1565
01:31:55,400 --> 01:32:00,640
And she's kind of mad.
And he he basically tells her he
1566
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,720
was like, look, you can't do
this alone.
1567
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:07,400
You can't do this by yourself.
And I figured if I can't be the
1568
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,640
one to help you, at least she
can.
1569
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:14,400
But again, she and Suwan two
different that they're on two
1570
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:19,320
different sides of this, so.
Well then Land is a Thinker and
1571
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:23,240
he's like, wait a second, she's
been still for this long and she
1572
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:26,200
haven't tried to kill herself.
Something is going on here.
1573
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:27,880
Yeah, 'cause what did, what did
he say?
1574
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,120
He he, he went to the towers and
he, he did the research and he
1575
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:39,280
said only two women in history,
history have not killed
1576
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:44,480
themselves after being still.
So he was like, hmm, something's
1577
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:51,160
not right with her.
And again, like I said, LAN is a
1578
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,720
quiet man, but he, like you
said, he's a thinker.
1579
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,120
He's sitting there.
He's he's got the gears turning
1580
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,440
in his head like OK, and and
he's got the check boxes, OK.
1581
01:33:00,440 --> 01:33:03,440
She's not suicidal, check.
She's this check.
1582
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:05,800
She's got, she's in a foul mood
all the time.
1583
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,840
Check and.
He's oh, but but also he said
1584
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:12,400
something important.
He said there were there were
1585
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:19,720
rumors or legends that that
during the Age of Legends they
1586
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,040
could.
The Forsaken could.
1587
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,120
The Forsaken.
Cut people off from the one
1588
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,800
power without actually cutting.
Them.
1589
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,480
Yeah, without maintaining the
weaves.
1590
01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:33,760
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing.
But he he tells her this at the
1591
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:35,680
end.
But he has already kind of sort
1592
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,000
of figured this out when he goes
to see Logane.
1593
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,080
And of course, Logane is man, he
was like, you helped put me
1594
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,800
here, I got shit to say to you.
And Lance teases him with a key.
1595
01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:48,760
Like I just need you to answer a
question and you can, you can,
1596
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,160
you know, go free Logan.
He didn't.
1597
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,000
He didn't say that though.
He didn't say you go.
1598
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:56,000
Free.
I know.
1599
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,600
I'm saying that's the
implication.
1600
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,640
That's the implication.
He put the key down like, OK,
1601
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,080
I'll give you this, you just got
to give me some information.
1602
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:08,040
So he tells Logan he was like,
OK, so you can see men's weaves.
1603
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,080
What do you see when you look at
Moran?
1604
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,040
And when he asked that question,
I was like, Moran is not a man.
1605
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,040
Why would he ask that?
And then I thought about, I was
1606
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,960
like, who is this going where I
think it's going?
1607
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:24,080
And then that's when Logan tells
him he was like, she's covered
1608
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:29,680
in weaves, men, a man's weave.
And it's he was like the way he
1609
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,160
was describing it.
He was like, it's, it's covering
1610
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:36,720
her, but it's not what, what,
what was the terminology?
1611
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:40,240
He said it's there, but it's
not.
1612
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:45,520
It's not still, it's not being
actively fed by.
1613
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,960
Yeah, maintained and fed.
Yeah.
1614
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,520
So basically she has, it's
almost like she's got a chain
1615
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,600
around her that she doesn't,
that she's not aware is around
1616
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:58,080
her.
And I guess land at some point.
1617
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:02,200
Figured if Logane can see it,
Rand will be able to see it too.
1618
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:06,440
And then Alana and the the guys
come in and they like hey,
1619
01:35:06,440 --> 01:35:09,560
Karian is on fire and it's in
the foregate.
1620
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,800
So land takes the key and Logan
is like you can leave the key.
1621
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:17,280
He turns around.
He said I didn't forget what you
1622
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,400
did to Karanian stepping.
He was like you can go free when
1623
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,200
they take your ass back to the
white tower and I know 2 brown
1624
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:28,560
sisters who would love to, you
know, study you.
1625
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,240
I was like, oh, you made land
marriage.
1626
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:37,120
And The funny thing is, he says
with the same calm that he does
1627
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,520
everything else.
I'm like, I, I just want to hear
1628
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:43,000
him raise his voice one time.
I just want to see what he's
1629
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:47,800
like, like really, really mad
because Logan is just looking at
1630
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:53,760
him like fucker, like you
tricked me, man was like, I
1631
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,320
never said look, he learned from
the eyes to die.
1632
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,160
I never said I was setting you
free.
1633
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,640
I just sent the key there.
I just let you think what you
1634
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,480
want to think.
Yeah, see, this is this is, you
1635
01:36:03,480 --> 01:36:06,000
learned that shit from Lorraine,
because remember in the first
1636
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,320
episode when she was convincing,
convincing that merchant that
1637
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,960
she wanted something else, that
he just kind of threw in the
1638
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:15,040
thing that she actually wanted?
She's like, all right, there you
1639
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:15,640
go.
Cool.
1640
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,720
Appreciate you, ladies.
You should go.
1641
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:20,960
Yeah.
It was like you learn.
1642
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,200
You paid twos paying attention.
You paid attention.
1643
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,000
Words are words are important.
I think you said that before,
1644
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,280
Anthony.
The way you say things, words
1645
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:34,400
are important.
So again, we go back to what we
1646
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:37,960
were talking earlier.
They figure out that there's a a
1647
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,280
way, a door to get into the
ways, what they call it a
1648
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,760
waygate.
A waygate.
1649
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:46,200
Yeah, they they figure out that
there's a waygate, they go to
1650
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:50,520
the weigh gate and of course,
like you said, Swan is following
1651
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:54,000
them while everyone else is
supposed to be helping the hurt
1652
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,480
and and trying to calm things
down in town.
1653
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:01,760
When they get there, they're
talking about OK, Brand is like,
1654
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,800
OK, what do I need to do to open
the weigh gate?
1655
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:05,840
And Lance said you're not going
to, she's going to.
1656
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:10,400
And Moraine, I think she feels
like he's digging at her.
1657
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,080
Like, you know, I can't channel,
you know, I can't do this.
1658
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:17,520
Why would you say this and land
just Even so calm when he was
1659
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,600
like, you can see weaves.
What do you look at, Miranda?
1660
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,120
Tell me what you see.
And Miranda is like, the fuck
1661
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,800
are you doing?
And then that's when Rand is
1662
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:29,440
like, yeah, it looks like a what
did he say?
1663
01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:31,640
It looks like a cake.
Looks like a cage.
1664
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:34,120
In a.
Knot or in a knot?
1665
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:35,680
Yeah, he said.
Looks like a knot.
1666
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:41,080
And you and we can see her, you
know her, her weaves.
1667
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:44,160
And she's like, what?
What do you mean?
1668
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:49,160
And then that's when Land tells
her about the the legends of the
1669
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:54,640
Forsaken being able to do that.
And they're like, OK, Rand, you
1670
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,080
need to take it off, but you're
going to have to cut through it.
1671
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,880
And Rand is in here like what?
And Moraine is looking at Land,
1672
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:03,640
like the fuck you just.
And Land is looking at her, just
1673
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:10,760
ever so calm, like half a trust
in him, And Rand is able to
1674
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,600
break it free.
And Moraine's holding me.
1675
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:17,680
It's it, it almost looks like
she, she got younger.
1676
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,920
You know what I'm saying?
It's like her face changed.
1677
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:24,640
Her face looked free.
She was like, Oh my God, I can
1678
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,840
breathe again.
It's like I, I don't know,
1679
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:28,720
though.
The weight of the world just
1680
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,800
lifted off her shoulders and
she's able to open the weight
1681
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,280
gate.
And like we said, Swan shows up.
1682
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:42,040
She's she's what is it called?
She Shields Rand.
1683
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:42,200
She.
She.
1684
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:46,960
Knocks land out.
And she's having this
1685
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:50,480
conversation with Moraine about
you need to close this gate now.
1686
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,760
And she starts getting forceful.
Moraine was like, look, I'm not
1687
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:57,200
going to do that.
I'm still staying the course.
1688
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,840
I'm trying to do what we're
supposed to do.
1689
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,680
And what are we supposed to do?
The dragon is supposed to claim
1690
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:06,160
himself and farm, so that's
where she's trying to do.
1691
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,960
She's trying to get Ran to farm
so that he can proclaim he is
1692
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:13,640
the Dragon Reborn and so on.
Is like, no, our way isn't
1693
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,160
working.
We need to take him back to the
1694
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:16,520
tower.
This is what she said at the
1695
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:18,960
beginning of the episode.
So again, they're on two
1696
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,760
different paths at this point.
When someone told her she was
1697
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:24,320
like, look, don't make me do
this.
1698
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:29,240
Moran was like, if you ever love
me at all, don't.
1699
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:33,280
And then she says Moraine Dam
Madrid and that was the thing
1700
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:37,520
she called her Moraine Dam
Madrid and not Moraine Sadai.
1701
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:43,200
I was like, oh, OK, so this is
this is not good.
1702
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,920
And then she says, I command you
to close the way gate.
1703
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:51,800
And you see Moraine, she kind of
turns because the one power is
1704
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,640
forcing her to do what Swan told
her to do.
1705
01:39:56,840 --> 01:40:00,760
And I was like, well, that's a
20 year relationship in the
1706
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:05,480
trash.
Because again, I I felt like
1707
01:40:05,480 --> 01:40:10,200
that was a a huge violation on
salon.
1708
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:14,680
Granted, I understand why she
did it, because she thinks that
1709
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,920
what she's trying to do is the
right move.
1710
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:21,920
And she was being made to do it.
That too.
1711
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,880
That too.
But why?
1712
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,200
See, I guess the interesting
thing would be why would they?
1713
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:36,520
Why would they compel her to
make Moraine close the gate if
1714
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:40,920
their goal is to get Ransif on
in the first place?
1715
01:40:41,440 --> 01:40:45,480
A broken armaline is.
Oh yeah, yeah, OK.
1716
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:50,000
Dead armor, right?
And what would break her more in
1717
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,160
messing up their relationship?
Yeah.
1718
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,560
Watching her go through the gate
even though she's begging her
1719
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,120
not to.
Yeah.
1720
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:03,440
And and watching her go with the
Forsaken.
1721
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:07,240
With the Forsaken, 'cause I know
that's the part I was looking at
1722
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:12,480
because when Lanfiere does show
up and like even Moraine tells
1723
01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:16,600
Swan she was like don't she's
too powerful, Swan tries to
1724
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:21,160
attack her and Lanfiere puts her
on her ass like she.
1725
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:27,080
Didn't even raise her hand up.
Right, right.
1726
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:32,040
And then when she gets ready to
kill Moraine and ran steps in
1727
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,800
front, she was like, I told you
I would kill her if I saw you
1728
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,520
together and was like, what?
We're not going to do, You ain't
1729
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,320
about to kill her because you
want me to do what you want me
1730
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:47,560
to do.
So no, you're not going to kill
1731
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:50,120
Moraine.
We're going to go through this
1732
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:51,200
door.
We're going to do what the fuck
1733
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:54,400
we need to do.
And again, Lamphere is just
1734
01:41:54,400 --> 01:42:00,320
like, OK, whatever.
I know Lamphere is about tired
1735
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,200
of Ran.
She's like, look, my affection
1736
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,240
only extends so far.
You about to get on my nerves.
1737
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,640
I'm saying you cute, but you
ain't that cute.
1738
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:10,480
You need to.
You don't need to stand.
1739
01:42:10,480 --> 01:42:14,160
Step in lines, little boy.
I'm just saying.
1740
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:17,520
But you got to know that when
someone was on that ground and
1741
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:21,520
she saw Lamphere talking to Ran
and Moran and Moran was like,
1742
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,440
no, we got to go.
She's looking like what the
1743
01:42:24,440 --> 01:42:26,760
fuck?
Because I know she's probably
1744
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:30,560
wondering at this point if
Moraine is a dark friend.
1745
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:34,000
Because remember when she pulled
up, Moraine was opening the way
1746
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,400
gate and she said you lied to me
about being still?
1747
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,200
And Moraine was like, I can't
lie.
1748
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,400
But from where Sawan is
standing.
1749
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,840
If you're dark friend, you can,
because if you're a dark friend,
1750
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:46,800
you can't.
Exactly.
1751
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:48,440
Exactly.
And then?
1752
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,400
Or black eyes.
If you're black eyes are you
1753
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,840
could lie.
Yeah, I mean, and all of a
1754
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:57,720
sudden now you can channel and
not only can you channel, but
1755
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,640
you are leaving through the way
gate with a forsaken.
1756
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,960
So yeah, I'm sure someone
probably has some pretty hefty
1757
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:09,040
thoughts in her head right now
about her Boo thing.
1758
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:11,960
Like is this picture dark
friend?
1759
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,240
Like, did we do?
And now she's probably really
1760
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:15,880
thinking we did all the shit for
nothing.
1761
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:21,680
We did all the shit for nothing
because now Moraine has ran and
1762
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,800
if she is a dark friend that's
not good.
1763
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:29,080
I mean.
We know, we know the truth.
1764
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:36,240
If if this if if this stuff is
going to go the way I think it's
1765
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,880
going to go.
Y'all just don't understand how
1766
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:44,920
powerful compulsion is and how
easily the forsaken can do it.
1767
01:43:45,480 --> 01:43:48,640
Yeah.
Just just saying just just wait.
1768
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,000
Just wait.
I I mean.
1769
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:59,000
Because you saw they've already
done it on, on.
1770
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,120
Barium Sedai.
Barium sedai.
1771
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:02,280
Yeah.
And they're forsaken.
1772
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,640
They have to do it because none
of these people know how to do
1773
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:11,160
the the weaves for compulsion.
I think Leandrin did it.
1774
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:23,080
Oh OK, but how so does that mean
that because right now the only
1775
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:28,640
Forsaken that we have confirmed
has been released and is walking
1776
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,680
around is land fear?
So does that mean that land land
1777
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,080
fear somehow ended up in the
dark?
1778
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:40,080
I mean in the White Tower or.
If either one of them wanted to
1779
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,080
go into the White Tower, they
could go into the White Tower
1780
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:45,880
whenever they wanted to.
Oh, OK.
1781
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:50,760
The I guess, I guess we're not
making it clear.
1782
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:55,160
You you see, she basically
instantaneously transports.
1783
01:44:55,720 --> 01:45:00,800
She can invade her dreams.
Shamia is more powerful than she
1784
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:01,520
is.
Yeah.
1785
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:06,640
Than Linfield.
So yeah, if they wanted to go
1786
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,920
into the white tire and
compulsory, they could.
1787
01:45:10,440 --> 01:45:14,640
If Lanfrey wanted to go into her
dreams, she could.
1788
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:16,880
She's a she's a dream master.
She.
1789
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,440
I guess I would.
Why?
1790
01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:21,760
Why would that surprise you?
No, because.
1791
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,800
I I think I.
Think if Leandre hold on.
1792
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:29,800
If Leandre could compulse, she
would have been doing it a long
1793
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:31,520
time ago to a lot of different
people.
1794
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:35,280
OK, and I get that.
But I guess the thing for me
1795
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:41,160
that maybe surprises me, I won't
say confused, it surprises me is
1796
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:45,280
that you would think that
knowing the threats out there,
1797
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:50,160
that the White Tower would have
some kind of protections in
1798
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,440
place.
Like, and I don't know, I don't
1799
01:45:52,440 --> 01:45:57,320
know how magic on that level
works in this world.
1800
01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:00,360
But like, you know, if, if, if
we're thinking about other
1801
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:04,760
magical or fantasy properties
like Hogwarts or, you know, some
1802
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:08,520
of the other things, there are
Shields in place to where people
1803
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:11,440
can't get through.
So I would just think that
1804
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:15,520
something like that would exist
for the White Tower as well.
1805
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:20,440
The current president, modern
day Azadi, do not know how to
1806
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:27,320
create Shields that stay.
They have to stand there and
1807
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:28,440
maintain them.
Oh.
1808
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,520
OK, OK.
That's number one.
1809
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:37,720
Number two, again, none of them
are powerful enough to deal with
1810
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:44,360
the Forsaken, except maybe Gwen,
Naive Elaine, and Rand, right?
1811
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,960
And they don't even know how to
do anything yet.
1812
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:50,920
OK.
And I was just so when you said
1813
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:56,200
that, I'm like, so I know we
keep hearing about how powerful,
1814
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,840
especially the three women,
because Rand, of course, like
1815
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:00,400
you said, Rand is the Dragon
reborn.
1816
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,360
So of course he's the most
powerful person.
1817
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:07,840
But those three to even put them
in the same sentence and then
1818
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:11,200
for you to say they're probably
the only one strong enough for
1819
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,520
the forsake.
And I'm like, oh, that means
1820
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,720
when you seen.
Shit, Oh my bad, I didn't.
1821
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,560
I didn't mean to let that slip.
Well, I mean, sorry.
1822
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,800
My bad.
Well, you knew about the not,
1823
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,760
not even Iguane, I mean.
I mean.
1824
01:47:26,440 --> 01:47:29,120
All the most powerful we've seen
in.
1825
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:37,080
A. 1000 years and they say Gwen
and Elaine because they're like
1826
01:47:37,480 --> 01:47:41,720
Gwen is the most powerful novice
we've ever seen and.
1827
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:46,840
They even said something about
how powerful she is as a
1828
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:48,240
demonic.
She was like, your light is
1829
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,800
going to outshine all of them,
like you're going to be the the
1830
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:54,240
most powerful.
So if if they can just see that
1831
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:58,480
just with the limited amount of
power that Iguane has right now.
1832
01:47:58,480 --> 01:48:02,640
Because again, yeah, Iguane is
starting to show her power, but
1833
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,840
we haven't seen it on a big
scale yet.
1834
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,040
So I think.
They haven't been like their
1835
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:11,400
full potential yet.
Yeah, so.
1836
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:16,840
Yeah, yeah, they, they are.
They are on forsaken level
1837
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,480
power.
OK, so since you say that about
1838
01:48:19,480 --> 01:48:24,240
Naive, I'm just going to hold on
to that and it give me hope that
1839
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,720
Naive becomes a little more
likable, just a little bit more
1840
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,160
because I don't want her to be
this powerful and then me be
1841
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:35,200
like I can't stand this bitch, I
don't want to do that.
1842
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:41,320
But right now she is just.
I mean again from the books
1843
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:45,920
popularity Magic's number one
Nyneve is number 2.
1844
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:49,520
But you also said Nyneve is is
pretty much an asshole in the
1845
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,600
books too.
Yeah, but the one thing that she
1846
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:57,120
does, which why everyone loves
her, is she protects those three
1847
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:03,720
of her kids.
OK, Like to she yes, she gets
1848
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:07,040
there and she's only there for
them.
1849
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:11,760
OK, OK.
Everything she does is to
1850
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:14,880
protect them, and she's being an
ass to people is to protect
1851
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,120
them.
She's being an ass to them is to
1852
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,480
protect them.
OK, you want to talk about the
1853
01:49:19,480 --> 01:49:22,640
ultimate mother hen?
OK, that's her.
1854
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:23,760
I can see.
I can.
1855
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:25,560
I can work with that.
I can.
1856
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:26,920
Work with that.
That is her.
1857
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,840
But it's just it's.
And she and she is a hypocrite.
1858
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:32,680
She is a hypocrite.
She she gets on.
1859
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,720
I think it was the Elaine for
how she was dressing.
1860
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,440
And then you turn around and all
you wear is silk dresses.
1861
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:44,600
That's that's her.
Oh, OK.
1862
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,280
Yeah, stop dressing like a
hitch, mom.
1863
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,000
And then she walk around just
like, you know, like, you know,
1864
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:53,080
that's just that's the exact,
that's not how she dressed.
1865
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:58,200
But it's that mentality, right?
Do as I say, not as I do.
1866
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,760
She's she's and you know, we
love her for it.
1867
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:03,240
She's great.
OK.
1868
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,360
All right.
I'll, I'll, I'll take your word
1869
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:10,000
for it.
So OK, let's see.
1870
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:13,240
Do did did we skip anything?
I feel like we skipped
1871
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,360
something.
Let's see.
1872
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:19,080
We talked about Mad Parent, we
talked about all the Two Rivers
1873
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:22,040
people.
We talked about Land, Moraine,
1874
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,840
Swan, manfare, I think
everything.
1875
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:28,880
Yeah, I think that was
everything.
1876
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:33,240
OK, one episode left for season
2.
1877
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:36,240
We're we're almost caught up
finally.
1878
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:40,760
Yay.
For y'all to start watching.
1879
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:46,120
I know, I know.
I'm like, I'm excited because
1880
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,600
you're excited.
And that, like, that has me
1881
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:54,760
excited because I've not heard
you say anything that glowing
1882
01:50:54,760 --> 01:51:00,280
about an episode in a long time.
Episode 1.
1883
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,840
Nine out of 10.
Episode 2.
1884
01:51:04,440 --> 01:51:08,840
Nine out of 10.
Episode 3 9 out of 10.
1885
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:13,840
If so, for 10 out of 10.
Oh, OK, I'm excited.
1886
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,560
I can't wait.
OK.
1887
01:51:18,440 --> 01:51:20,920
Is there anything else that we
need to mention?
1888
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:24,760
Mike, you got some shout outs.
Shots and Liam Sharif for being
1889
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:28,320
for being like the being the
scapegoat and just being
1890
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:31,440
mistreated this whole season.
Like she was holding she over
1891
01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:34,360
there holding Rand that she has
tricked into leaving her post.
1892
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:36,640
And she's like, I'm here for OK,
I'm here for you.
1893
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,840
She's like, so I was like, what
are you doing here?
1894
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:45,200
Like you asked me like I was
like, see.
1895
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:49,000
And then it's like because she's
had attitude this whole season,
1896
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:52,080
like when was like every time,
every time something happens,
1897
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:55,520
she's just like she's, I mean,
she's been rolling her eyes more
1898
01:51:55,520 --> 01:52:00,800
this season.
Yeah, but also I feel like,
1899
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,840
because I thought that too, I
was like, OK, she always has a
1900
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:08,680
nasty attitude, but no, she's
just always like, she is so
1901
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:15,240
protective of Swan and anything
that that ruffles Swan's
1902
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:16,920
feathers at all.
She don't like it.
1903
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:21,120
She don't like Leandrian, she
don't like Moraine, she don't
1904
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,000
like none of them.
She's like, look, y'all giving
1905
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,240
this woman a headache and I'm
tired of it.
1906
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:28,960
But yeah, I thought that too.
I was like, she got such a nasty
1907
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:33,400
attitude, but one the way she
walked in that room, I was like,
1908
01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:38,440
OK, this is a woman who was
like, look, I'm tired of y'all
1909
01:52:38,440 --> 01:52:42,400
fucking some shit up.
I don't want to be in Kyrie in I
1910
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,320
want to be in the White Tower
and y'all got me out here, damn
1911
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:47,440
it.
I look good, but I don't want to
1912
01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:51,240
be out here and I don't want to
be dealing with this bullshit.
1913
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:55,440
So yeah, I I get it.
She got the attitude.
1914
01:52:55,440 --> 01:53:01,400
But boy, let me tell you, if
anything comes down, I have a
1915
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:05,320
feeling she's going to be the
first one with her sword, her
1916
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:10,520
her weapon, her whatever up to
be like, OK, look, it's it's
1917
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:14,280
time to fight.
Yeah, I can see that shot just
1918
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:17,880
swap being the rainmaker and
like putting the fire out.
1919
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:23,040
I was like, oh, I was like, I
see you showing off like that.
1920
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:24,680
That was that was actually
pretty cool.
1921
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:31,800
I like that and and like shut up
to I I still, I don't care what
1922
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:36,040
anyone says.
I really like Swan and Rain
1923
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:39,280
together.
You could tell how much like
1924
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:42,680
love there is.
But each of them knows that
1925
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:44,840
something needs to be done.
They're going at it different
1926
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:46,520
ways and it's tearing them
apart.
1927
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:48,840
And that's just like tragic as
fuck.
1928
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:52,080
But I like the little background
that we got into their love
1929
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,800
story where they were sneaking
around like teenagers trying to
1930
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:56,520
see kisses here and there.
And I was like.
1931
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,800
And talking about meeting
Moraine's father and talking
1932
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:01,360
about, oh, am I going to be your
fishwife?
1933
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:03,520
No, you're going.
You're going to be my fishwife.
1934
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,160
Yeah, it was cute.
Fishwife.
1935
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,920
I was like, oh, oh God, really?
Casey Casey Marine fishing for
1936
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:11,520
nothing.
Like get out of here.
1937
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:13,960
So 1 can't either.
That's what she was like.
1938
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,960
I don't see that happening.
But yeah, I thought it was cute.
1939
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:24,320
I felt again like when Brain
found out that she hadn't like
1940
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,400
permanently lost her powers.
It kind of remind me of the
1941
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,680
Wizard of Oz where Linda said
you've had the power all along.
1942
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:35,720
He's like, you mean to tell me
that I could have got my powers
1943
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:40,080
a long time ago and not going
through all this bullshit.
1944
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:42,680
Like I was like, damn, that's
fucked up.
1945
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,600
But you know, she's an actor
fucked up so she deserve that
1946
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,800
shit.
I don't care the quote was damn
1947
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:52,480
prick like him or that Matt's
mom was saying.
1948
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:57,480
Oh, OK, yeah.
Damn prick like him.
1949
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:02,640
That shit was just like.
Fuck and the crazy thing is I
1950
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:07,200
really forgot about Matt's dad
and how bad he was because what?
1951
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:09,720
We haven't seen Matt's parents
since the first episode of the
1952
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:11,000
first season.
The Season.
1953
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:12,160
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
1954
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:15,080
I forgot about how bad he was.
But when Anthony mentioned he
1955
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:18,280
was like when he said yeah, he
doesn't want to be like his
1956
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:21,080
father, I was like, Oh yeah, his
father was the one that was like
1957
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:24,320
openly cheating on the mom while
the mom was sitting right there.
1958
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,640
Yeah, you know what?
He's an ass.
1959
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:32,880
Yeah, but I, I mean, I feel, I
feel like I feel they're
1960
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,880
getting, they're getting ready
to give to, to give Matt a
1961
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:39,240
little bit of a little bit of
retribution because people,
1962
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:43,720
myself included, and I'll admit,
like, feel that he's just kind
1963
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:49,480
of been a tertiary character and
like kind of a douchebag for not
1964
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:51,760
going with them through the
portal the first time in the
1965
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:55,520
first season and just kind of
being kind of looking.
1966
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:57,880
I mean, they're kind of
portraying him like a junkie,
1967
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:01,080
just like kind of trying to get
his life right in this series.
1968
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:04,000
And it's like, I know Anthony
has said that there's more to
1969
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:05,320
him.
So I'm looking forward to it.
1970
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:09,920
I actually hope he turns his
shit around because I mean, I
1971
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:14,960
like his attitude because he's
like, I mean, you could tell
1972
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,960
that there's more to him than
what they're showing.
1973
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:22,320
And because, like, even when he
was in in prison, even though it
1974
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:26,240
was kind of set up, like, he
figured out how to, like, how to
1975
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,480
get into the other room and,
like, not and not betray what he
1976
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:32,080
was doing, even though Leandra
probably knew what she was
1977
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:34,160
doing.
Speaking of which, Leandra being
1978
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:37,200
able to enter people's heads is
scary as fuck.
1979
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I never wanted to think about
that again.
1980
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Like, like, do what land fear
does, like to influence people's
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minds.
If Leandra did that, like,
1982
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that's just, yeah, I can't do
that.
1983
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,320
No, that's some bullshit.
Yeah.
1984
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:57,200
But yeah, I can't wait for the.
Family she she would just be
1985
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like Cassandra in Deadpool
versus.
1986
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:00,840
Wolverine.
Oh my God.
1987
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:10,840
Oh yeah, no, yeah.
Working like a puppet.
1988
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No.
Yeah, I can't wait for this last
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episode.
I do want to give a shout out to
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the the costume department in
this show because Oh my God,
1991
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:30,040
these clothes that they are
wearing, even the stuff that's
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supposed to be like just the the
the general townsfolk clothing
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01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:42,840
looks so good.
And like the the outfit that Ran
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had on when he went to go meet
Swan, you know, he had on a nice
1995
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:50,600
decent coat before and then the
one that Lamb put on him.
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And then with the, you know, he
had the white shirt with the
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embroidered collar and then his
sword.
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It was just like.
Empty Lan's Lan's dress.
1999
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I didn't, I just say she was
walking through that like a
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bitch.
I know I look good but I would
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rather be in the town.
She was looking good and like, I
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01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:18,840
mean just, and, and I hate to
say it, like I said last week
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with Loyale and Inktars, they're
the servants wear because
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there's another lady in the in
the village who's wearing it
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01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:33,600
when the soldiers are going
through that, that light blue
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01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:38,400
and gold is so pretty.
And even the stuff that like the
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01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:43,880
Damani and the the slow Doms
where the the black slow Dom who
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01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:46,840
was in charge of the little
training session today, she was
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looking good.
I was like, that outfit looks so
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good on you, but I can't like
you because of what you see, who
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you are.
Right.
2012
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Yeah, I just their, their
costuming is, is amazing.
2013
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So yeah, but OK, up till last
episode, hopefully we see a lot
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of action, hopefully we see some
reunions because like I.
2015
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:16,680
Said.
You know, we're going to.
2016
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You've already been over this.
All roles lead to foam.
2017
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Everybody, everybody meets in
the middle is like.
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Yeah, this, this episode was
getting everybody in position.
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So.
And everybody else.
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Oh, and also, I will say this
too, I'm glad that Moraine knows
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that she has a community to help
her through this cause like LAN
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told her at the beginning of the
episode, you can't do this by
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01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:46,880
yourself.
And I'm glad that she knows that
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she has people that she can
trust.
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The you know, we're still
working out there.
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But Alana, I don't know if I
Yeah, but.
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No, Alana was.
Yeah, they helped.
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Yeah, but you know, we were
talking about Varon maybe being
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a dark friend.
So, but you know, Alana and and
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Max Maxim and Ivan, they were
like, you don't you don't have
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to do this alone.
We're we're with you.
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So I hope that all of the the
the speculation that we had
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about Varon earlier in this
recording, I hope that all of
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02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:31,200
that proves false and that she
isn't a dark friend and that she
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02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:35,120
really is just, I don't know,
three steps ahead of everyone
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else and she really is on
Moraine and Rands side.
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I really hope that's what it is.
So you can be playing a great
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game too.
Yeah, yeah, I So let's just hope
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that that's what it is and that
this is our proof that Moraine
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has strong people behind her
because we know she's about to
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02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:53,040
get some opposition.
Leandra has already been
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02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:58,120
revealed as a dart friend.
She just basically cut her ties
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02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:01,400
with Swan, so she's going to
need that support and she's
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02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:04,280
going to need people to believe
in what she's what she's doing
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02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:08,880
and for people to believe in
rant and not try to just kill
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him.
So I'm glad we did get to see
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02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:16,560
that as well.
So I'm ready for the last
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episode, I'm ready to see the
reunions, I'm ready for a Gwen
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02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:26,520
whip Renner's ass, I'm ready to
see my my folks in captivity
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escape and I guess Rand.
Is let my people go.
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02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:39,000
And I guess Rand is about to
proclaim himself as the Dragon
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Reborn, so I want to see exactly
what that looks like.
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02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:50,720
So if nobody has any final
thoughts, that is it for our
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show.
You can find us online at
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www.phantomhybrid.com.
We are on social media on all
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02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,040
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Discord channel, you can watch
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Thanks for listening.
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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here
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with Anthony and Mike, and we
are discussing the Season 2
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penultimate episode of The Wheel
of Time.
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We're almost at the end guys.
Now we used we can get ready to
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start prepping for Season 3.
Yes, and and shout out to all
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the listeners who stayed with us
through this.
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Yes, we.
Appreciate you.
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We do, We really do.
So let's get into this episode
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because I have questions.
The episode starts out with a
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flashback from 20 years ago of
Morena Sawan's relationship.
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And, you know, it's so
interesting because they're all
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young and they're carefree and
they're talking about their
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future and how they're going to
be together.
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The question that I have is
this, in this particular clip,
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they don't seem to be hiding
their relationship.
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So I'm assuming that at that
time, you know, of course,
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because Sawan wasn't the
ambulance seat, there was
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nothing for them to hide.
So my question is not 20 years
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later, do people know that they
were actually a couple back then
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or was this just a carefree like
we're we're the only two people
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walking on this balcony so we
can be a little bit more open?
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I mean, for all intents and
purposes for the show, the
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relationship is more than
whether it is sort of portrayed
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in the book.
In the books, I mean they're
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well known pillow friends, but
there were a lot of pillow
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friends.
OK.
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So it wasn't like it wasn't, it
wasn't unknown that they were
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pillow friends.
But what?
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Based on the time Robert Jordan
was writing the books, the
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editors wouldn't necessarily let
him explicitly say.
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That they were lovers.
OK, 'cause I, I, I guess I'm
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just wondering, like not even
thinking about the books, but in
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the show, I think that would
explain a lot of people's
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dislike of Moraine as far as the
Isodai sisters go, because they
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could think that, oh, OK, you
know what, they used to have a
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relationship.
And so she, she shows favoritism
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to Moraine.
And if you think about like the
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conversations that they've, that
we've heard in the first season
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where, you know, it's like, oh,
Moraine spends too much time
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away from the tower.
She doesn't have the I guess the
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restraints like some of the
other isodisces just do and I
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was just wondering if that
relationship with Swan kind of
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plays into that.
No, I think, I think I would say
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that that's sort of not
necessarily accurate because
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Moraine's issue, if it really is
an issue, is with the Blues, you
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know, with Swan is the
Armorland.
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She doesn't have any control
over what they do now.
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full-fledged eyes to die, who
isn't a sitter can go and come
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and go as she pleases.
Maureen spends a lot of time
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away, so they can't really be
accused of, she can't really be
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accused of favoritism towards
Maureen when the Blues, if they
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wanted to stay there, they could
make her stay there.
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OK.
You you.
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Does that make sense?
Yes, and.
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So, but but they're not.
Again, the reason why she
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doesn't become a sitter is so
she has the freedom to do what
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their plan is, which is to go
out and find the dragon.
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Right.
So that's what she's been doing.
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She's been out for years at a
time, not being back at the
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tower.
OK, this leads into my other
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question and I'm I can't
remember what the Izodai's name
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is the the sitter of the blue
Asha who is now a Damani.
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When she was at the tower in the
first season and she was trying
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to get Moraine to stay.
She was like I need you here at
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the tower because of some
unrest, not a think about it,
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some unrest in the West, blah
blah blah blah blah.
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And then Moraine found a way to
like, not have to stay at the
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tower.
Yeah, she gets exiled.
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Yeah, if she was at the tower,
would she have at that time
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become the sitter like I, I
still don't understand.
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What I I think that's when she
was, if I remember, because, you
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know, I don't go back and
rewatch these things anymore.
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I think at the time she was
yeah.
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I think she was telling her that
she was going to have to be at
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the sitter.
She was going to have to take
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her place or.
Something OK, OK.
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All right, so, OK, that answers
a couple of my questions, 'cause
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I'm like, OK, I'm still trying
to figure out how this thing
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works, especially when it comes
to the isodine in the tower,
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because there it's like there's
so many components to it and
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it's just like, OK, I OK, I'm
going to keep track here, keep
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track here.
But it's just a whole bunch of
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stuff.
But OK, going back to the scene,
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going back to the show, like I
said, we see Sawant and Moraine,
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they're sitting there, they're
being flirting with each other.
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They're talking about their
futures.
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They're talking about what
they're going to do.
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We're not going to be here for
long.
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We're going to serve our time
and and and go home and and, you
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know, be fish wives together and
just retire, which I was like,
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do I said I really retire in
that sense.
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But I guess, yeah.
Because because we see Baron and
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and her sister kind of retired,
but I don't, I guess seeing
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Moraine in the way she has been
in the last two seasons, I just
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can't imagine Moraine sitting
down somewhere just not worrying
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about the world.
It just seems an odd concept.
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But it's I mean, it's the same
like with, you know, in our
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field, we work in education.
We had, we know teachers who
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have been there for years.
And when they say, oh, I'm
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retiring, it's like you.
Well, we have to.
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You have to remember, this has
been 20 years ago.
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This this is before the
proverbial shape is in the fan.
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Yeah, I know.
And that's.
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That's why we used to talk about
retiring and, you know, living
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our days together.
Oh wait, no, we have something
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to do.
Yeah, because then you go in to
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see, I'm assuming that sister
was a seer.
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Yes.
And she is the one who actually,
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I don't even want to say predict
because it's literally happening
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in real time.
Prophecy.
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It was a prophecy.
But technically it was a
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prophecy.
OK, but she starts having the
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vision of Rand's mother giving
birth and she tells, she tells
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both women she was like the
dragon is reborn, you know?
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And this is like literally on
the heels of the IO War ending,
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so.
You think at this point Lehman,
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yeah, King Lehman was dead at
this point cause like, oh, the
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war is over.
Right, which literally right
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after that?
Yeah, 'cause at first I was
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watching was like, they seem to
be really, really happy when
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there's a war going on.
Like literally right outside the
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window.
Yeah, yeah.
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And then they're like, the war
is over.
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And as soon as like she didn't
even get the word over out of
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her mouth.
Good.
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Before the sister starts having
the vision of Ran being born and
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she tells them she was like, you
must.
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What did she say?
You must.
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You must unite.
You must find the dragon and
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prepare the world for war.
And, and no, and prepare the
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world to follow him.
That was what she said.
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And then she told them that they
couldn't say anything to
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anybody.
And they're both looking at each
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other like, welp, I guess the
retirement's a bust.
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Yeah, shout the Hayley Mills of
Parent Trap fame playing that
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role.
Is that what it was?
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Yeah, that's her.
Shut.
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It is At first I was looking, I
was like, 'cause I saw who,
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who's playing.
I was like, is that the
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girlfriend?
Is that the woman from 1-2
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years?
I was like, no, that's Ally
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Mills.
Like, oh.
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Yeah, it's a lot.
Lot of Ally Mills is around
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Hollywood, but yeah, I thought I
was like, oh, that's that's
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actually pretty cool.
It's good to have see you see
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someone from our childhood
actually, you know, having a
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current role and something.
Yeah, but yeah, so.
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And does she die after she has
this, this vision or this?
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Yes.
It looks like she does.
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So I'm just like, OK.
It was such a powerful,
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overwhelming, you know, she was
already old guitar and Marissa,
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she was already old.
But it was such a powerful
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vision, man, she died.
OK, because it's almost like she
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was, I don't know, like
channeling Rand's mother spirit
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because she was reacting in the
same way Rand's mother was
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reacting.
And when she died and she kind
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of killed over, I was like, is
she dead though?
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Is she like really, really dead?
And Swan and and Miranda just
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looking at each other like, and
this starts the 20 year journey
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for them to find the Dragon
Reborn.
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And so that look back at their
relationship is very interesting
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because you see how kind of
really in love they were.
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And even though we kind of, we
got a glimpse of it in the first
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season, and if you remember when
we first saw it, I, I wasn't
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feeling their relationship when
we had that first episode of
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them together because I was
like, there's been no build up.
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There's been like, we're just
supposed to assume that these
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two people have been in love for
20 years, and I just wasn't
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getting that.
And it's interesting because in
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this episode, when you see them
kind of on opposite sides of
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things, I feel it more with them
because you can feel how their
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opposing views is starting to
tear them apart.
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And I really felt it this time,
so.
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But yeah, and the fact and the
fact that she hadn't been, was
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it that she hadn't been
answering her letters like she
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been sending letters or, or they
they have been corresponding and
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Moraine just didn't tell her
what Ishmael had done to her.
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Yeah, that that was the case.
Because if you were if you were
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calling the last episode, she
was writing letters trying to
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tell Suwan that she had been
steal.
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And every time she wrote the
letter, she balled it up and
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threw it out because she didn't
she couldn't figure out how to
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tell her something like that.
Like, like Suwan said, how, how
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did you keep something this, of
this magnitude away from me?
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And, and you know, I guess, and
in some ways I can understand
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Lorraine again, not wanting to
admit that that part of her is
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gone.
And then to admit it to like the
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most part, the, the, the, I
don't know if she's the most
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powerful, but the, the person
who's in charge of all the eyes
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to die.
That's a hard thing to, to
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admit.
And at the same time, this is
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the person that you love.
This is something that you guys
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shared in common.
And that kind of, I think takes
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away from maybe what she or I
would say maybe she felt like
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that took away from what she
shared with Swan, too.
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And she was just like, yeah, I'm
not ready to do that yet, but.
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I think she was still it, it
was, it was still very painful
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for her and she she just didn't
want to have to deal with it at
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the moment.
Yeah, yeah.
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And now she's having to deal
with it because like Mike said
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at the end of the last episode,
Land comes into town with Alana
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and Ivan and Maxim, and you
think it's going to be a
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showdown, but it's like, no,
we're about to present you to
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the ambulance seat.
And this is something obviously
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Moraine didn't want to happen.
So when I say there's a lot of
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tension in this episode and a
lot of it has to do with
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Moraine, because Moraine is
trying to keep secrets from this
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person.
She's still trying to push Land
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away, like get leave.
I don't have anything to say to
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you.
And Land is like, OK, whatever.
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And I love it that he, I I feel
bad for him because you can see
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how much her rejection still
hurts him.
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But I love it that this time he
was like, OK, I'm gonna get to
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the bottom of this because she
is not acting like the meringue.
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I know.
He was like, OK, so have you
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ever felt like killing yourself
after all of this?
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And she was like, no, absolutely
not.
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He's like, hmm, OK.
And it's almost like all the
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things that he was doing, he was
checking off boxes.
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OK.
She doesn't feel this way.
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OK, Check.
She doesn't feel this way.
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Check.
Something's not right about what
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she's going through.
And I love that he was able to
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figure it out.
And like he said at the end, he
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was like, I'm so sorry it took
me so long to, you know, to do
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what I'm supposed to do.
Yeah, it was like I said, that
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version of House.
It's like he's like trying to
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figure it out, like there it is.
Do I do like that they gave him
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something to do?
Because Land hadn't really had
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anything to do.
He he felt like sulk.
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Yeah.
Exactly.
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All all he had to do was like
say, Lorraine, talk to me, go
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away.
Lorraine, talk to me.
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Go away.
Thank you.
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And see.
Right.
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You're a dark friend.
No, I'm not.
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Ryan is the Dragon Reborn.
Oh, OK.
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That that's it.
That's all you got for us.
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Right.
And I like his interaction at
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the beginning of this episode
with Rand too, because it's like
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he knows that Rand is a Dragon
Reborn now.
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And that kind of, I think that
knowledge kind of changed his
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relationships with a few people,
including with Moraine.
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But I like that he's not being
judgy against Rand like
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everybody else, Like everybody
else who's hearing that he's the
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Dragon Reborn, they
automatically have an opinion
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formed about who or what he is
and what he's going to do,
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including someone.
So I like that Land is still
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treating him the same, like, OK,
this is the kid we picked up in
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the Two Rivers.
But OK, I see you've been trying
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to, you've been picking up some
stuff.
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And he just kind of calmly tells
him, hey, this is what you want
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to do.
This is what you want to do.
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You know, when he tried to get
the sword and he wasn't trying
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to take the sword from him, he
was just like, here, hand it
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here so you can put this jacket
on.
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And Rand was like going into
defensive ball.
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He was like, OK, you've been
learning some skills, all right,
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you could take it with you.
He was like, so you're not going
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to you.
You don't think I need to keep.
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He was like, believe me, if the
ambulance seat is scared of you
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is not going to be because of
the sword.
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The the thing though, about
about all of this is in the
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books.
We have The Eye of the World,
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the first book, you know, on the
way there, he and, and ran
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bonded like he was teaching him
how he was teaching him the
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sword dances.
He was teaching him, he was
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training him, he was talking to
him.
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And you know, it's I, I, I
missed that part, you know, of,
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of this character.
And actually, we're going to see
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it, you know?
You know, Season 3 has already
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started.
Yeah, I have seen.
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A couple of, a couple of.
Clips and like.
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Photos.
Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
So, yeah, 'cause in the trailer
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you see him teaching him some of
the dances there too.
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The other thing is aside from
being the quote UN quote Dragon
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Reborn, aside from being that
it, it puts Ran in a position
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where he's going to have to sort
of be like a king.
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And you understand that Lamb is
a king and people make
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assumptions about him and treat
him a certain way because of who
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he is and the way he represents.
And I think he can kind of
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understand what Rand is about to
have to deal with as someone who
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is supposed to be in the
position of authority, who
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everyone is going to have to
follow.
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And people are going to look up
to him because he's the Dragon
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Reborn.
Landon understands that, and
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that's sort of why he's taking.
I think they're doing a good job
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of showing him trying to sort of
take care of Rand in that
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respect.
As.
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Opposed to what we yes, except
for what we're used to in the
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book where he was sort of a
father figure to Rand since he
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didn't have Tammy.
OK, yeah.
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But yeah, I was going to say he
does say something to Rand about
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that because when when he tells
Rand or when they're having that
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conversation, Iran was like,
look, I left the eye of the
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world because I didn't want to
endanger my friends.
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I didn't want to kill my
friends.
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I wanted to keep my loved ones
safe.
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And Rand had to tell him, you
are the Dragon Reborn.
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Your whole purpose is to save
the world, not just your
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friends, but everybody.
And I think I, I don't know,
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maybe I feel like it coming from
LAN, maybe he looked at it
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differently because it's not
something that is.
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When LAN says that, it doesn't
feel like he's trying to force
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it on him, you know what I'm
saying?
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I think it's kind of like what
you said.
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He's just kind of gently
teaching him without being
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overbearing, without being
pushy, without being aggressive.
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But he's kind of telling Rand
what is needed of him or what is
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required of him, but in a way
where Ran can kind of take it in
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and and understand and feel the
weight of it.
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Because again, we've been
talking about Ran.
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Ran's been living a solitary
life for six months, but even
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prior to that, they have been
dealing with so much trauma and
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chaos and everything going on.
He really hasn't had time to sit
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with who he is and what he is
and understand what that means.
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And I think LAN is a good person
to kind of tell him and and show
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him the the path forward.
Maybe Moraine too, especially
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now that we know a little bit
more of Moraine's motivations
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and she's not keeping things
from Rand like she was at the
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beginning.
Because I think at this point,
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especially once Ram was like,
yeah, Laugher said I can't hang
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with you or else she's going to
kill you.
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I think at this point she
realizes, OK, I have to, I'm I'm
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going to have to tell him the
truth.
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Especially after Sawan handed
her her ass.
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She was like, look, this boy is
no in, in no better position to
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fight the Dark One than he was
six months ago.
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Like what have you been doing
with him since the Eye of the
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World?
Which is a valid question.
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Yeah, 'cause she's basically
just had him kind of hidden away
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and, you know, working in the
asylum.
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And I, I understand she put him
in the path of people who could
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help him without directly
saying, hey, we're here to help
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you.
Because even the guy who he was
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caring for before he switched to
low gain, that guy was helping.
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He was the one who taught him
the forms.
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So yeah, I, I, I, I, I do like
that dynamic between the two of
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them.
I do want to see more of that
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because I think land will be a
very big help to Rand
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especially.
Trying to deal with all this,
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this chaos that's really about
to appear in his life.
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Right.
Yeah.
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I I love, I love Sawan's
incredulousness.
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Like, after, like he tried to
power up.
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She was just like, like, this is
all you got.
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Like, you like, you know how
long it's been like, I got
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beginners that could wreck you.
Like what the hell?
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She set him up.
She she said.
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How many times have you chown?
He's like.
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Not many.
Not, not many, not not on, not
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purposeful.
Oh, she said.
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Oh, I got you bro.
Right, right.
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Because her whole thing was she
said, what did she say?
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Do you know what the tower law
says that the ambulance seat is
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supposed to do to the Dragon
Reborn?
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And he was like, you're supposed
to steal me.
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And she was like, steal you.
That's where amateurs.
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She was like, no, we're supposed
to cage you.
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00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,400
And I remembered you talking
about that, Anthony.
363
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:26,520
She said we're supposed to cage
you and basically use you for
364
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,600
our purposes.
You channel when we want you to
365
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,240
channel.
You fight when we want you to
366
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,440
fight.
You know, when it when time
367
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,040
comes for the last battle,
you'll be our greatest weapon.
368
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,160
But Oh no, you won't be the
general.
369
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,760
I know where I was looking like
though.
370
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,080
So they're basically no better
than the other than other of
371
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,120
you.
Not, not when it comes to this.
372
00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:50,720
They're not any better.
No, yeah.
373
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,960
Yeah, it's the same thing is.
It really is.
374
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,280
And and that's when Ran kind of
attacked.
375
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,400
He was like, oh, you're not
about to put me in a cage.
376
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,320
But yeah, Ran you, you got to
work on your, your control and
377
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,960
your channeling a little bit
more than what you have been
378
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,440
'cause if you've been, he's been
trying to hide it for the whole
379
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,400
six months.
So.
380
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,720
Yeah, I like how that, see, is
almost a direct parallel of Rena
381
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,840
and Wayne too.
It's like you tried to lash out
382
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,560
and that shit got shut down.
It's like he tried to lash out
383
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,120
and that shit got shut down like
in a fucking hurry.
384
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,200
And you can you were basically
powerless to do anything about.
385
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,000
It is like a parallel between
both situations.
386
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,320
I'm just like, see, this is
like, you just don't know.
387
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,760
And this show is like, you think
you're rooting for the right
388
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,560
person.
Then you're like, am I you Like
389
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,880
maybe, maybe that's room for
them.
390
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,000
Then you're like, no, I'm
definitely not room for them.
391
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,480
I need room for them.
Am I rooting for anybody 'cause
392
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,880
I'm just rooting for Loyal.
I'm just gonna get a Loyal get a
393
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,480
sweatshirt with Loyal's face on
it.
394
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,280
I mean like, yeah, loyal I.
Am looking for the truth.
395
00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:02,120
He's the man.
We know.
396
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,680
I well, you know, the the name
of this episode is Deus DeMar,
397
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:16,320
which means the great game.
And in from from the book,
398
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:23,320
there's I told you before the
the game of houses is what they
399
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,360
do, which is their political
machinations that go on, you
400
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:30,440
know, behind the scenes and in
front of the scenes.
401
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,320
That's something that I think
they've sort of kind of hinted
402
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:39,560
at in the show, but not really
talked about, and it's where
403
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,160
George RR Martin gets his Game
of Thrones from Robert Jordan.
404
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:51,880
They first game of houses
Meringue is really, really good
405
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:57,120
at playing the great game.
He and Swan, especially Marine.
406
00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:01,560
They're playing a game like you
know, you know how we have the
407
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,360
same you know, we're playing
chess, we're playing checkers.
408
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,560
They're not even playing the
same game as as.
409
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,480
Everybody else, yeah.
Right they.
410
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,360
Are really playing the long
game?
411
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,920
Yeah, yeah.
Because everybody else is
412
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,440
worried about what's going on
right now.
413
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,880
They've been thinking 20 years
ahead forever.
414
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,960
They have them or.
Each other to figure out
415
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:29,200
checklist, yeah.
Yeah, so and, and I I think
416
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,400
because they make a big deal
about it in the books about the
417
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,680
nobles playing the game.
That one scene where Rand was
418
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,760
with land fear at the party, he
in the book, he literally burned
419
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,080
a whole bunch of letters, like
he just dropped them in the
420
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,600
flame.
He wouldn't even read them.
421
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,160
And they they thought he was a
noble, but they didn't know who
422
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:58,560
he was when he left carrying it
left the game in shambles.
423
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,640
Like people didn't know what the
hell to do.
424
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,960
They didn't know what was going
on.
425
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,240
He just totally and it's part of
his Tavirian nature.
426
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,880
Probably he did a little bit of
that too, but he basically left
427
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,280
all their politics and
machinations in shambles because
428
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,920
they had no idea what was going
on.
429
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,000
Like they didn't know who he
was.
430
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,160
He was with this beautiful
woman.
431
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,320
He seemed to be very powerful.
They were all drawn to him and
432
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,040
he didn't.
He just like dismissed their
433
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:30,360
things as if they were nothing
and he just which in the grand
434
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:32,960
scheme of things he's a Dragon
Reborn so.
435
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,160
So it really it is.
Nothing, it is nothing.
436
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,600
He doesn't have time for this
game basically.
437
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,320
And he left.
He left them like in shambles.
438
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,480
It was.
It was terrible.
439
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,960
Right.
OK, but yeah, so the thing, the
440
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,680
reason why they call this the
Great game is Moraine and Swan
441
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,760
just playing.
They're doing something no one
442
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:01,520
is expecting, which is I'm, I'm
kind of concerned here for Swan
443
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:07,960
because it seemed like she's
abandoning the plan because she
444
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,240
thinks Marine has abandoned the
plane.
445
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,200
And Marine is like trying to
tell her I haven't.
446
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,600
But I don't know if they're
putting on a show because people
447
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,120
are eavesdropping and listening
and all that stuff.
448
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,680
So I.
See, I thought that too until
449
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,640
the end of the episode and I was
like, oh they really are on
450
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,640
opposite sides.
Like this was not.
451
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:31,080
It was.
I don't know.
452
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,880
I don't know you, still you.
Still, even with what happened
453
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,080
at the end of the episode.
'Cause I think they, I don't
454
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,120
think landfill was supposed to
show up.
455
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,320
Landfill.
But even before landfill showed
456
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:52,520
up, Swan commanded Moraine to
stop, and that was when she did
457
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,360
that.
And you could kind of see
458
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,800
Moraine being forced to turn
around because I guess.
459
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,240
Well, because of the oaths.
Yeah, because of the oaths.
460
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,160
She's supposed to obey because
she said I will obey every
461
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,520
command Sawan Sanche or I will.
I will obey Sawan Sanchez's
462
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,640
every command.
I think that's what she said
463
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,560
with the oath, right?
And when Sawan was telling her
464
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,440
to close the way gate, she was
like don't make me force you.
465
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,080
And Maren looked panicked.
She was like don't do this if
466
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,440
you ever love me, don't do this.
And she was like, I command you
467
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,720
when it forced her to turn
around.
468
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,920
That hit me so hard because I
was like, that's almost a worse
469
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:44,040
violation to me from what
Ishmael did to her.
470
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,840
Because Ishmael, it's her enemy.
He's the one, you know, he
471
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,000
doesn't care about her.
He can take her power, whatever,
472
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,840
and not think anything of it.
This is somebody that you love
473
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,560
who is forcing you to do
something that you don't want to
474
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,600
do basically without your
consent.
475
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,560
It was a violation.
It was, but step back for a
476
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,360
second.
Step back for a second.
477
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:13,160
OK, so how many people knew
there was a old year way gate in
478
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,320
the middle of the city?
Yeah, only.
479
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,200
Only a.
Couple.
480
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,360
They had to.
They had to go find a map out of
481
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,520
the library to find it.
Yeah.
482
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,080
Swan immediately went there like
she knew where it was.
483
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,560
How?
I was to see, I was going to say
484
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,960
was did she go there because she
knew it was there or did she go
485
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,640
there because she was following
Moraine?
486
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,000
How could she have followed
Moraine?
487
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,160
She was on top of the rooftop
when they left.
488
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,600
How did she know where she was?
Maybe.
489
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,640
She maybe she, I mean it seemed
like she knew that that was the
490
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,320
only way they were getting out
of here with with land fear like
491
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,960
throwing become becoming a
little fire starter like
492
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,800
throwing, throwing fireballs all
over the place.
493
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,120
And this it's like they they
knew that they couldn't go out
494
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,680
the front.
So she's like, they have to go
495
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,360
out.
No.
496
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,040
But see, I don't think they.
Knew they.
497
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,760
Was even in the city.
No.
498
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,080
And I don't even think they knew
that the fire, because the fire
499
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,760
was in the four gate.
I don't think they knew that
500
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,560
Forsaken was starting the fire.
They just knew there was a fire.
501
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,240
Yeah.
OK.
502
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,080
So now the people down in in, in
the in the area who saw this.
503
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,200
Beautiful.
Woman with the long flowing
504
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,080
robes walking.
They probably realized, but.
505
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,640
They they didn't.
By the time they realized what
506
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,960
was happening, they were made to
a bacon crisp.
507
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,760
If you're seeing her, it's too
late.
508
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,920
It's too late if you see her.
Oh well.
509
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,480
Who you going to tell?
Nobody let.
510
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Look, let me let me go this.
Way.
511
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,120
Let me, let me get out.
Let me get out your way while
512
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,680
you're setting everything on
fire.
513
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,640
And, and what did she say when
she was walking by and blowing
514
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,400
people up?
She's like, like, oh.
515
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,560
It was like 3.
I'm back to this again.
516
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,160
Yeah, she was like 3000 years of
pass and I'm doing this again.
517
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,720
Really.
But but I have questions though
518
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,840
because like I said, team one,
they didn't know where the way
519
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,600
it was.
They had to use a map to find it
520
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760
and Swan just strolled in there
like so.
521
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,320
I'm thinking this is not the.
Theory.
522
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,840
The theory was not the theory.
It it could be possible that
523
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,680
landfill was was making her do
that because the Forsaken can do
524
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,000
something called compulsion
which they can make people do
525
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,880
things so.
You think landfill made swan
526
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,680
come?
Right, because what did she say
527
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,760
after she knocked her out?
She said a broken Armaline is
528
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,720
better than a dead.
That is more used to me than a.
529
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,120
More useful to me than a dead 1.
Or I mean if.
530
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,920
She's and who would know, and
Landry would know exactly where
531
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,480
that way it was because she was
there when they were made like
532
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,240
she knows where they are.
Yeah, but.
533
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,480
Wouldn't the ambulance seat know
almost everything in the tower?
534
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,120
No.
No, they're not in the tire.
535
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,000
They ain't carrying.
But yeah, they're in carrying.
536
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,360
I mean, but.
They're not in tire of.
537
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,480
London.
I would think she would have
538
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,080
like some kind of like extended.
OK, never mind.
539
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,040
No.
I.
540
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,200
Mean she's not the president.
She'll get a black book from the
541
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,320
previous arm and then have all
the secrets.
542
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,800
OK, that's what I was saying.
She's not going to be the one to
543
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,280
go in and read every single text
or tone that's in the White
544
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,960
Tower.
So yeah, that that kind of does.
545
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,000
In any, any reading that she
would have done, they they would
546
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,640
have been looking for
prophecies.
547
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,160
She was her.
She would have been the one
548
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,400
there trying to trying to to
tweak out all the prophecies to
549
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,600
figure out what they needed to
do, what she needed to do.
550
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,200
That's.
Absolutely no.
551
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,600
And even Even so, why would she
know where secret passages are
552
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,920
in Carrion when Moraine is from
there and she didn't even know?
553
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,000
She knew there was one there.
They didn't know where it was.
554
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,320
No, she told, She told, She told
Alana, she said.
555
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,080
That's just a myth.
That's a rumor.
556
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:09,920
Oh yeah, that's.
Right.
557
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,000
And Alana was like, no, we got a
old gear and map this it, it's
558
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,400
the real thing.
Yeah, and who brought the map?
559
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Yasuka Cho Chang.
She brought it to who?
560
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,800
To.
Veron.
561
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,760
How did Veron know to even ask
her to go get one?
562
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,200
See.
See, oh, but you know what
563
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,120
Bavarian is also, she's writing
a book about the breaking of the
564
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480
world, and she's been doing a
lot of research.
565
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,360
And remember, she went to the
White Tower looking for certain
566
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,080
texts to research.
So she may have once she and
567
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,400
Lorraine talked and Lorraine,
you know, she confirmed that
568
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,480
Rand was the Dragon Reborn.
Maybe she started thinking of,
569
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:58,000
OK, let's look at certain
things, let's look at certain
570
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,720
places, especially if she know,
if she knew that Moraine stashed
571
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:06,560
Rand and Kyrie Ann, maybe she
was like, OK, we might need to
572
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,520
think of a alternate way out.
Like Baron seems to me to be the
573
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,560
one that has plans on top of
plans on top of plans.
574
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,360
Like she sees.
I I said this in a couple
575
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,440
episodes ago.
She's very observant.
576
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,560
So she was probably paying
attention to other things that
577
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,840
some of the other sisters or
anybody else like wasn't even on
578
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,520
their radar.
Yeah, OK.
579
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,360
I'm, I'm, I'm just saying it
might not be.
580
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,160
They could have had advanced
knowledge.
581
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,720
But I know it just seemed like
how I I'm still going to ask the
582
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,600
question.
Lamprey knew where they were.
583
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,280
Swan knew where they were.
Yeah.
584
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,920
You know, it's easy to know
that.
585
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,600
Well Landfair would know.
OK, well if they got to get out
586
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,160
of the city quickly, they're
probably going to go to away
587
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,520
gate.
So she may not have thought they
588
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,640
didn't know where it was.
She just automatically went
589
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,000
there because she knows Marine
has used it before, used used
590
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,920
one before, so she may have just
assumed she would be there.
591
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Someone, on the other hand, why
would she even know exactly
592
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,360
where to go?
Yeah.
593
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:23,520
Well, I, I will say this, I
don't think Landfair, I don't
594
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,159
think she anticipated Moraine
being there because one, as far
595
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:30,000
as she knew, Moraine was still,
she's not going to be able to
596
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,040
open the weight Gate 2.
She had told Ran that if, you
597
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,080
know, if she caught him with
Moraine, she would kill Moraine.
598
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:44,840
And I don't think, you know,
with Ran going to her for help
599
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,400
in escaping, I don't think he
told her.
600
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,639
Oh yeah, by the way, Moraine is
coming with me.
601
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,880
Did did Landfree help him
escape?
602
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,679
Yes.
I.
603
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,640
Started the because.
I think she started the fire as
604
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,800
the distractions.
Oh, wait.
605
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,560
Distraction for what?
Wait, OK, see, now you got me
606
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,000
think about that.
Because she started the
607
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,040
distraction.
Moraine was in there with Ram,
608
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,560
but then Varon came in.
See, now you got me wondering,
609
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,000
is Baron a dark friend or
something 'cause Baron came in.
610
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,720
She told Leanna.
She was like, I'll take his
611
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:24,320
shield from you so you can go do
whatever the ambulance.
612
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,160
Right.
And then Maureen goes, Oh, you
613
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,480
worried that very carefully,
'cause she didn't lie.
614
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,640
She didn't.
She just said I'll take his
615
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,560
shield from you.
But that doesn't mean she can't
616
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,280
lie.
She could have been doing that
617
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,440
for show.
See now.
618
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,640
Oh my God.
OK, so now you.
619
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,560
I'm sorry man, this very, this
ain't adding up and you know.
620
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,240
You know what?
It's so interesting because.
621
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,920
Oh, and then Matt gets knocked
down by someone.
622
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,920
Matt got knocked out by someone
in the grey hood.
623
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:06,360
Thomas was wearing a grey hood.
I'm just, I'm, I'm just saying
624
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,800
it.
Was he was.
625
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,640
And then when Alana, Maxim and
Ivan was sitting there talking,
626
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,240
Maxim looked at Baron.
He was like, you know, I don't
627
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:18,400
trust Baron.
He was the only one that said
628
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,000
and I was like, why trust Baron?
But you know what and and why
629
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Ivan, Ivan was like, you know
what, I'm from the go far,
630
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,120
little Tomas.
Right.
631
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,360
I love how Alana was like, she
was like, no, I don't want us to
632
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,480
be separated.
And both of the guys looking at
633
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,560
each other and then they looked
at her.
634
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,520
She was like, they're like 2 of
you. 3.
635
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,240
I don't know.
I just think they all think
636
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,040
everybody dark, friend.
I'm just saying.
637
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,120
I I mean, but you know you.
Saying, but will you?
638
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,000
Will you put that very?
Faint now how in the world?
639
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,920
Because Varin came to the
conclusion that Moraine knew who
640
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,760
the Dragon Reborn was real quick
when they when they were on
641
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,280
their way and she was like, you
found the Dragon Reborn.
642
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,000
I'm assuming it's one of those
kids you plucked from the Two
643
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Rivers.
And even remember Moraine got
644
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,640
ready to draw that DAP.
Wait a minute.
645
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,280
Oh, wait, wait.
I just think it's a awful
646
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,120
coincidence he goes to to
landfill to ask for help.
647
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,400
All landfill doesn't start a
fire.
648
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,080
Yeah, 'cause she doesn't
physically come in and help him.
649
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,480
Veron.
Veron.
650
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,920
And and if she immediately
drops.
651
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,240
It.
If she wanted to go in there and
652
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,480
get him out of there, who's
going to stop her?
653
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,600
Who's going to stop her?
She could have.
654
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,400
She had teleported right into
that room and killed everyone.
655
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,680
Yeah, the way she teleported
Matt all the way to fall.
656
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,440
Exactly.
OK, that's making me think now
657
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,560
because I never I, I, I wouldn't
have thought to ask that
658
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,520
question.
And it's like now I'm.
659
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,120
I'm in retrospect the first time
I watched this, even knowing
660
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,480
what I know first time I watched
it.
661
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,720
I'm like I, I, I questions.
I would have questions about
662
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:19,800
Baron easily, easily.
She moving around to I
663
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,640
understand.
Her being smart.
664
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:29,560
Being smart because, you know, I
also thought maybe Marine's
665
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,240
sister was a dark friend.
We found we found out in a big
666
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:36,760
way this episode.
She is definitely not a dark
667
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,000
friend.
Yeah.
668
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,440
And we find out that, yeah,
their rise to riches was because
669
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,320
of the deal that was made.
Was that?
670
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,960
Little naughty go Deal of the
best.
671
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,760
Yeah, that's snotty.
That's snotty.
672
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,800
No sun.
And it's so it's so crazy
673
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,920
because when they were when they
were.
674
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,720
Well, OK, let's let's finish the
conversation about Veron and
675
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:03,000
that stuff before we move to
Spartanis.
676
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,440
But with you asking that
question now is making me think
677
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,640
back to a lot of things since
we've met Veron.
678
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,400
You know, even just the fact
that she let Marine stay with
679
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,040
her for so long, like was she
was she doing that to try to
680
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,600
find out some information?
Was she trying to find out?
681
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,800
You know, because Moraine was
having so many visitors at that
682
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:35,320
house trying to get information,
it does open up the question of
683
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,000
whether or not she could be a
dark friend.
684
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:42,200
But at the same time, I wonder
if that's like a misdirect
685
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,240
because you have people in this
episode, you have Leandra, who
686
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:51,960
is very clearly on her dark
friend mission in this episode.
687
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,600
She's doing her dark friend
shit.
688
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,600
And then you have Baron who now
with what you've asked and the
689
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,520
things that is brought up seems
questionable, questionable.
690
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:07,120
But I almost feel like it's kind
of AI don't know, maybe like a
691
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,680
misdirect, like OK, we're gonna
make you think that somebody who
692
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,560
who should be good might be bad
to take.
693
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,760
I I don't know.
I don't know if I still feel
694
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:24,000
like.
Oh, no, I'm, I'm kind of, I'm
695
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,400
kind of split down the middle.
I'm on the fence.
696
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,160
You raised some very good points
though.
697
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:36,440
She has a dark friend then then
like, I mean, she has she been
698
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,920
just watching Moraine or are
saying stuff up for Moraine?
699
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,080
Like this whole time, 'cause
Lorraine's been, that's where
700
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,560
he's been under care.
This whole time that she's been
701
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,600
silence.
Right, yeah, 'cause I mean, even
702
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,080
if she, even if it was revealed
that she was a dark friend, what
703
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,720
is Moraine gonna do?
Nothing.
704
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,520
Yeah, and it's like what if,
what if, when, when she was, I
705
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,400
mean, did she change her mind
about her?
706
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,160
Did she accept that whole
ambushed in the 1st episode?
707
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,160
You mean the, the, the fades?
Yeah, that's what I was just
708
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,000
thinking too.
Like OK, because OK.
709
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,120
Like, like, like, 'cause Bahrain
was getting ready to leave,
710
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,760
maybe she didn't want her to
leave just yet.
711
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,960
She was like, OK, I need to slow
her down a little bit and had
712
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,440
the phase come in and but she
was gonna let them kill them.
713
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,480
She was just like, OK, that's
enough of that.
714
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,640
They, they're not going to go
anywhere for a minute.
715
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,920
So cool.
But then when Lorraine still was
716
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,400
steadfast on leaving, she's
like, fine, we're going with you
717
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,440
or we'll, we'll go.
Then she's like, here, take
718
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,440
here, take land.
And then they're like, she's
719
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,040
like, fuck trying to I find.
So then she had to figure out
720
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,960
another way to figure.
But she but she knew she
721
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,360
probably had an inkling that she
was going back to she was going
722
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,640
to try to find Sawan.
So she was like, OK, we gotta we
723
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,160
gotta try to find a way to
intersect them somehow, like, or
724
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,080
just to meet them somewhere.
See, now we're now we're coming
725
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,200
up with all kinds of different
theories about this stuff.
726
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,080
And it's like.
There's a lot of conspiracy
727
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,640
theories going on right now.
It's a.
728
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,240
Lot.
It's a lot right now.
729
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:14,760
It's like the more we think
about it, the more we'll come up
730
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,040
with stuff.
It's just like.
731
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,680
It's the name of the episode.
That's a great game.
732
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,920
It's a game.
It's a game.
733
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:25,000
OK, OK.
Manipulations behind,
734
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:32,680
manipulations behind, you know,
manipulation and all this stuff.
735
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,320
Right, OK, so we gonna stick a
pen in the whole Baron
736
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,440
discussion.
We gonna see what next the next
737
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:45,040
episode reveals if anything, and
whether or not that makes a
738
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,000
difference in in how we're
thinking towards her.
739
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,640
But yeah, Anthony, you had you
have my mind just in jumbles now
740
00:42:52,640 --> 00:43:00,200
in a jumble because I I wasn't
really thinking.
741
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:07,520
Yeah, OK, so anyway, now let's
go back to Lady de Madrid and
742
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,200
and Barthanis and Leandrine.
Because Leandrine comes in the
743
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:17,640
house and she walks into the the
parlor where Barthanis and Lady
744
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,880
de Madrid are sitting.
And as soon as she walks in,
745
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,040
Barthanis is whole demeanor
changes.
746
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,800
He sits up straight.
He looks at her like, Oh, my
747
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,840
God, I was like, yeah, that's a
dark friend.
748
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,320
Because it's like he, he knew
his kin when she came into the
749
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:43,160
room and even when she sat down
and Lady de Madrid is, you know,
750
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,160
she's sitting there being nice
and polite and blah, blah, blah.
751
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,840
And then when he tells her he
was like, mother, go upstairs.
752
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:56,080
This, this is royal business.
I'm like, that's a lie.
753
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,120
Because what would Leandra have
to do with the with the royal
754
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,560
family in Kyrie Anne?
She's a isodide.
755
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,680
She's been all the way in the
tower.
756
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,080
She's been one.
Also.
757
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,320
She's a red isodide.
She ain't serving nobody.
758
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,200
I was like, yeah, use a sneaky
motherfucker.
759
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640
Something ain't right about you.
You are a dark friend.
760
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:22,000
Thankfully his mother peeped the
same shit because she was
761
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,360
listening and she heard Leandro
and give the give the order.
762
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,240
They wanted him to kill Moraine.
Or maybe not Will.
763
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,080
Yeah, kill.
I'm gonna say you said just take
764
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,360
her off the board.
You you you could have really.
765
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,080
Just locked her up and just kept
her there.
766
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,960
She couldn't have gotten out.
But no, take her off the board.
767
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,760
And if your mother gets in the
way, take her off the board too.
768
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,280
And Barthetus is looking like
you try to make me kill my
769
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,160
auntie and my Mama.
And I was like, look, this is a
770
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,520
woman who just let her son be
killed so that she can be free
771
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,280
to do whatever they want her to
do.
772
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,840
She ain't thinking about your
aunt.
773
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,880
She ain't thinking about your
Mama.
774
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,400
She don't care how you feel
about it.
775
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,280
This is the order from Ishmael.
You need to go do it.
776
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,920
But luckily his Mama ain't no
bitch.
777
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,880
She ain't stupid either.
Exactly.
778
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,360
Far from it.
Right.
779
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,280
Because even if she was
eavesdropping, it's still part
780
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,360
of the game.
Like having eyes and ears
781
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,640
everywhere, being able to get
intelligence.
782
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,000
You know, he, he, he probably
doesn't even know what's going.
783
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:43,080
On right right and I really felt
so bad for her because when she
784
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,400
she sets the trap for him she
has one of the guards you know
785
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,640
say hey we put your on in the
cell we gave her the tea she
786
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,400
should be asleep right now
because he of course is about to
787
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,520
take the cowards way out he's
going to have them knock Moraine
788
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,280
out so he can kill her one
without her knowing it was him
789
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,800
and 2:00 just because he
probably couldn't face like oh
790
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,200
this is my aunt I got to kill
her he didn't want to look like
791
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,240
a coward but.
He doesn't know she can't
792
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,200
channel either.
Well, that too.
793
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:17,920
But when he goes into the cell,
his mother is standing at the
794
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,080
door, and she's just looking at
him.
795
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,240
She was like, I really didn't
think you would do it because he
796
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:24,040
had a sword and he was getting
ready to pull it out when he
797
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,920
realizes that the cell is empty
and she locks him in and he's
798
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,240
sitting there.
He was like begging.
799
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,200
She was like, what?
What in the world made you do
800
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,640
this?
He was like, you don't think our
801
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,080
sudden fast rise back to the top
was all you?
802
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,560
No, this is me.
This is what I was doing.
803
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,080
I'm trying to ensure that we
have what we need.
804
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,720
Me marrying the queen, that's
all part of this.
805
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:55,600
That's what I was promised.
And she was like, yeah, you know
806
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,800
what?
I can't fuck with you.
807
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,560
And he was like, you, you, you
going to turn me in?
808
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,480
You going to give all this up
for your sister?
809
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,960
She don't even care about us.
And what did she say?
810
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:11,240
She said, I, I realized that
because what he said, she will
811
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:14,480
leave this place and not come
back.
812
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,480
And she won't she won't give she
won't give us a second thought.
813
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,040
And I'm very sad.
I know that.
814
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,760
But two things about my sister
that are always true.
815
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,640
She knows the difference between
right and wrong, and she knows
816
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:33,560
that sometimes you have to
choose to do what's right over.
817
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,960
How hard?
It is, right?
818
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,480
Yeah, no matter how hard it is.
And he was like, don't tell the
819
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,080
Queen.
She was like, already did.
820
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:46,360
I was like, yo, she really was
like, I'm not fucking with you.
821
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,640
I'm.
I'm done with you.
822
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,640
I had a lot of respect for her
for that though, because not too
823
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,400
many people would would turn
their turn their child in.
824
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,920
In this universe, in this world,
people do not like dark friends.
825
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:03,840
If they don't like anyone, they
don't like dark friends.
826
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,400
You know, they don't even play
about calling people dark
827
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,440
friends because you'll be killed
quickly.
828
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,200
Yeah, which is why that whole
exchange with Alana, Maxim, Ivan
829
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,560
and Land happen because they
they were really like, yo bro,
830
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,720
we love you, but we're going to
kill you right here now.
831
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:24,840
Right right here, right now.
Like they don't like, we don't
832
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,680
care how long we've known you.
We don't care, We don't care if
833
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,400
you've been a dark friend for
just a day.
834
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,160
And I, I'm guessing this because
when people become dark friends,
835
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,520
like we said, it's not one of
those things where, oh, you can
836
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,080
have a regret and you can get
out of it or, you know, you can
837
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,920
say, hey, I changed my mind
because once you're a dark
838
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,560
friend, you're in that until
you're deaf, there is no going
839
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,000
back.
No.
840
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:53,760
You you swear to him even in the
afterlife.
841
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,440
Really.
Yes.
842
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,400
So let me ask you a question.
Swear your soul to him.
843
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,720
Like you, you be.
Once you swear to the Dark 1,
844
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:10,720
you swear to the Dark One.
So so my question is because we
845
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:16,480
see it with Matt in this episode
where Ishmael allows him to see
846
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,080
past versions of himself.
So if remember.
847
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,760
He's a father, he remember.
He's a father of lies, but OK.
848
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,400
Well, yeah, that too.
But but one thing we do know is
849
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,600
that reincarnation is a theme in
this show.
850
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,920
It's, you know, the turning.
That's what the will is about.
851
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,880
So if your past self flourish
themselves to the dark 1, does
852
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,680
that follow you through each
turn of the wheel?
853
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,600
The likelihood of you.
OK, without giving away too
854
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:52,720
much, you, your soul is your
soul and who you are, as your
855
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:58,840
soul tends to be who you are.
So if you swear yourself to the
856
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,760
Dark One, you're going to do it
every turn of the wheel.
857
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:08,160
OK, right.
Which is sort of a weird kind of
858
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,600
trap because.
Yeah, because it's like.
859
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,480
That's that's you swearing
yourself 'cause you literally
860
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:16,720
swear yourself to him even in
death.
861
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,280
Yeah, and, and that's weird
because it's kind of like, it's
862
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:26,560
almost like your future selves
have no say even if, even if,
863
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,040
let's say they wanted to.
It's almost like they're
864
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,800
predestined not to.
Like there's no free will.
865
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,720
That means there's no free will
for that person.
866
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,040
That's a whole other
conversation, but OK, I'm I'm
867
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,840
wrapping, I'm wrapping my brain
around wow.
868
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:51,880
That that's why, that's why a
particular person, why he swore
869
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,120
to the Dark One, It's for that
very reason.
870
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,080
And I can't remember if he said
anything so far, but he's tired
871
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,120
of the same things.
Oh, Ishmael.
872
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,880
Yes, he did say something about
that in this episode.
873
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:13,000
Yeah, he was talking about.
He was talking about his his
874
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,400
dream is to one day close his
eyes to sleep and never wake up.
875
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:20,240
I do remember.
OK, so then it's so it's safe.
876
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:26,600
So it's safe to say that that
yes, he when he was when he was
877
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,280
nice to die, he was tired of all
this because once he realized
878
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,440
what was happening with the
pattern repeating over and over
879
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,440
again, he's like, we're all
suffering and he wants to end
880
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,480
that suffering.
He wants to break the wheel.
881
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,800
And that's why he swore to the
Dark one or one of the main
882
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:52,080
reasons why is he's tired of it
to see if he figured out.
883
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,080
It's been like an infinite
number of times that they've
884
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,840
done this.
Right.
885
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,240
And he's, he needs, he wants to
stop.
886
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,400
He's like, I'm just tired.
I just want to go to sleep.
887
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,440
I just want to take a long nap
and not think about none of this
888
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,440
stuff anymore.
Yeah.
889
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,120
But yeah.
But yeah, I guess I could
890
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:16,320
understand that, especially if
you remember bits and pieces of
891
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,400
your past life or your.
Yeah, I can.
892
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,640
And what did he say?
He drank.
893
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:26,240
He drank the tea himself and saw
all of his lives like this has
894
00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:29,080
to stop.
Yeah, OK.
895
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,200
Damn ayahuasca.
Ayahuasca trip span every day.
896
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:37,560
All it takes is 1 bad trip to
fuck all that shit up and his
897
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,400
trip was fucked up.
Like Matt.
898
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,000
Yeah.
OK.
899
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,040
Yeah, we'll, we'll talk.
We'll talk about Matt's in a
900
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,720
minute.
Let's let's finish with I'm
901
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:50,280
there and her son.
But yeah, so she turns her son
902
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,360
in and I was kind of
questioning.
903
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,560
I was like OK y'all have 5
guards come for this man, are
904
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,640
y'all about to kill him now or
y'all taking him prisoner?
905
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,880
But I was like 'cause he doesn't
seem to be.
906
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,520
He doesn't seem like he would be
able to put up much of a fight.
907
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,920
But then again I don't know if
dark friends get any special
908
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,680
perks in.
They get a boost.
909
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,600
They get a stamp boost.
They get a.
910
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:23,880
They get a + 5 + 5 in strength
plus 3IN constitution.
911
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,840
But yeah.
But they didn't know, but that's
912
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,040
the point.
They didn't know if there was
913
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,680
something that he had or someone
that he could call on to help
914
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,320
him out.
So it's like, yeah, I'd have 5
915
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,360
or 10 guards too.
Just be like, Nah, just in case
916
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,800
because his mom was probably
like, I don't even know this
917
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,800
mother fucker anymore.
So no, I'm not going to go.
918
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,480
I'm not going to do this shit by
myself.
919
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,000
So Nah, I'm the I'm just going
to get a couple guards with me
920
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,400
just to make sure they're like
and after ready.
921
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:59,680
Yeah, but like I said, I feel so
bad for her because your whole,
922
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,600
your whole sense of self worth
has been shattered at this point
923
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,480
because you thought that the
stuff that you did, the
924
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:17,000
connections you made were what
brought your house back into the
925
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,840
status that it was supposed to
be.
926
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:25,680
And now you're learning that not
only was it not you, but it was
927
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,720
the the rewards, I guess, of
your son being a dark friend.
928
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,320
So is she going to lose
everything now?
929
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:39,160
Devastating to her, so is.
She going to lose like just are
930
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:40,720
they going to take everything
from her now?
931
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:44,960
I know.
I don't know.
932
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,000
I don't know.
I mean, I'm, I mean, there's no
933
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,320
royal wedding happening for
sure.
934
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,520
I don't know how much of I don't
know how much of her household
935
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,800
was, I don't know, provided by
the crown.
936
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,120
I mean, I know that the horses
that Moraine was talking about,
937
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,440
you know, I know that those were
gifts from the Queen, but I'm
938
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,040
sure some of the stuff she did,
you know, I'm not saying that
939
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,920
everything that that brought
them back up to status was
940
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:24,080
because of him.
Because for her to say very
941
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:29,480
proudly that she worked hard and
she did things in order for them
942
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,600
to to come back up.
I'm sure some of that was a
943
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,640
result of her, but most of it
and probably how quickly it
944
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,920
happened had to do with him.
So now it's.
945
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,720
Like is there like a isodai Rico
Rico case they could put up
946
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,640
against them where they can just
like repossess all their shit?
947
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:53,000
I just I will say this, I know
Moran has a lot going on and
948
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:58,400
like she just, she just left,
but I hope at some point she
949
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:04,320
makes amends with her sister
because I I realize all of that
950
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,200
is not important to her within
the grand scheme of things.
951
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,880
But again, that is her sister.
That is her home.
952
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,480
Just at least say, I'm so sorry
that it came to this, you know,
953
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,760
just something.
Right.
954
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,760
I mean, she, she's probably
willing to listen now, now that
955
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,760
she's gone through this with her
son, she's probably more, more
956
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,000
willing to listen because she,
she said it herself.
957
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,440
She realized that, that, you
know, despite everything
958
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,120
Lorraine always did what's
right.
959
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:40,160
So she kind of, she kind of has
the start of being there and
960
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,000
saying, OK, maybe we should talk
it out a little bit at least
961
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,560
just try and you know.
But then but then again, it's a
962
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,360
2 day screen.
But it's a two way St. though.
963
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,280
It's like Moraine has to want
to, too.
964
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,280
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Right now, Moraine has a lot on
965
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,040
her plate, but I'm hoping at
some point she can at least just
966
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,720
say, hey, sis, thanks for having
my back.
967
00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:04,360
Because her sister could have
easily just let them leave
968
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,080
Moraine.
If she was really that petty,
969
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,400
she could have easily just been
like, OK, hey, Barthanis wants
970
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,680
to talk to you.
She, me, she.
971
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,960
Knows.
She knows better.
972
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:22,880
I know, but we know.
We know Moraine probably would
973
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,920
never step foot and Kyrie in
again.
974
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,880
Moraine not only has bigger fish
to fry, she's playing the great
975
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,440
game.
Yeah, these little pieces mean
976
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:38,640
absolutely nothing to her.
I know because what she's doing
977
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,760
is going to save everybody.
It's what Lamb told Rand.
978
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,720
Just to.
Worry about the people close to
979
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,280
you.
If it wasn't for your sister,
980
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,520
you wouldn't even know where
Rand was.
981
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,840
You wouldn't have gone.
Her sister, her sister knows
982
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,120
better.
Her sister knows and, and, and
983
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:03,160
on some level, her sister does
know that Marine is trying to do
984
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,200
something greater.
Yeah.
985
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:06,360
She.
Knows.
986
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,080
She knows that.
And she knows that, yes, she has
987
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,560
to be the one to keep this
family.
988
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,880
She's the one that has to keep
off.
989
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:19,600
She's the one because it it
doesn't mean anything if
990
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,040
everyone is dead.
It means nothing if Marine can't
991
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,360
do, if I said I can't do what
they're supposed to do,
992
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,800
everyone's going to die.
So she's going to, she she has
993
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,160
to let Marine be that way.
Like, yeah, it would be nice if
994
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,000
Marine would come back and have
some tea with her, like since
995
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,480
I'm sorry I left you, but no.
Probably not going to happen.
996
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,160
Yeah, Marine didn't have time
for that.
997
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,480
I know, I know.
Didn't have time for that.
998
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,640
I know.
But OK, since we talked about
999
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:54,760
Matt and Ishmael, let's let's go
to that part because again, last
1000
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,800
episode, the last we saw Matt,
he was he was kind of hiding at
1001
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,040
the gate.
He was supposed to meet Rand to
1002
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,400
go with him in the farm and he
kind of chickened out.
1003
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,080
Well, I won't say chicken out.
He backed out because men told
1004
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:12,040
him that, you know, he kills
Rand and then he gets knocked
1005
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,200
out.
And I thought about what Anthony
1006
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,880
said last week, like just go
with Rand Farm because if men
1007
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,280
saw the vision, it's gonna
happen anyway no matter how you
1008
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,720
get there.
And what happens?
1009
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:31,280
Matt gets knocked out and wakes
up where and fall because land
1010
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,360
fear has brought him there.
And he sit here thinking, is
1011
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,040
this a dream?
She was like, oh, no, you are,
1012
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,280
you are very much awake.
And he walks out to the balcony
1013
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,920
and he opens and he sees nothing
but water.
1014
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,920
He was thinking how and be hell
did I get here?
1015
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,880
I mean at least he got
oceanfront.
1016
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,320
I mean he could have had inside
room.
1017
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,320
That would have really sucked.
I don't think it matters because
1018
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,560
I think at this point Matt is
kind of scared shitless because
1019
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,480
I mean, even Laugher was like, I
really thought you would be more
1020
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,040
what did she say?
More impressive?
1021
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,840
And Matt is sitting here like,
why you just going to insult me
1022
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,680
after I just got knocked out and
I've been brought who knows
1023
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,120
where?
Who knows how like give me a
1024
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,680
second to get my bearings
together before you just start
1025
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,320
insulting me.
I know he was like.
1026
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,000
And I don't think he asked her
who she was and she never gave
1027
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,440
her name, did she?
Because I'm wondering when Rand
1028
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,400
was telling him about
everything, I know he told Matt
1029
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,920
about Ishmael having E Gwen and
foam and I know he probably told
1030
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,440
him of some of that.
I wondered, did he also tell
1031
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,800
Matt about Celine slash land
fear because she did he.
1032
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,720
Just said, he just said there
was a woman and he's like, oh,
1033
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,720
older.
He's like, yeah, OK.
1034
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,200
That was about it, OK.
Because I think if she had said
1035
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,200
her name, Matt probably would
have maybe figured out who it
1036
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,400
was.
No, He Rand didn't tell me
1037
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,720
anything.
OK, OK.
1038
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,720
But yeah, so he he ends up
waking up in foam.
1039
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,520
And after he, you know, sees
where he is, the next thing we
1040
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,680
see is Ishmael preparing the tea
for Matt.
1041
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,000
And he's telling him about, you
know, like you said, the whole
1042
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,000
cycle of everything repeating
itself.
1043
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,560
And I'm just tired.
I just, I just want to go to
1044
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,880
sleep.
And what did he say?
1045
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,680
He said the first time I drank
this tea, he said this tea will
1046
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,720
show you all your past lives.
He was like, don't you really
1047
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:43,880
want to know who you are, Matt?
And he was like, the first time
1048
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:48,160
I drank this tea, I slept all
night for the first time ever
1049
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,040
because I knew who I was.
I'm surprised Mike didn't
1050
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,880
interrupt you and say you missed
the most important line.
1051
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:01,120
Which was?
Which was Is this a sex thing?
1052
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,880
What is that thing?
Right, right, right.
1053
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:09,840
Thing or murder thing and he
said whichever one it is I
1054
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,440
really just want you to skip the
talk.
1055
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,120
He was like if you going to fuck
me or kill me, just get on with
1056
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:17,720
it.
Either way.
1057
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,640
Either way.
I miss Shamel is not a bad
1058
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,520
looking dude so I I can see the
OK.
1059
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,280
Are we doing this or are we
doing that?
1060
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,800
So, yeah, I mean, it's not,
it's, it's smell.
1061
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,720
We it's been shown that it
smells with it.
1062
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,880
So I mean.
We'll just, oh, you talking
1063
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,080
about 'cause he cut 'cause of
that, that whole dream where he
1064
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:45,880
was kind of cuddled up to Rand.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm just
1065
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,880
saying.
But yeah, that whole thing is
1066
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:54,800
just like, I mean, the Ishmael
gets me because he's always so
1067
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:59,320
fucking calm and it's like he's
just like chilling.
1068
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,800
It's like, yeah, my plans
couldn't work.
1069
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,640
Doesn't matter what you do.
I'm not.
1070
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,120
So I'm not gonna get, I'm not
gonna get worked up that shit.
1071
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,520
So yeah.
So he's thinking about don't let
1072
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,240
people 15 minutes.
Didn't drink it though.
1073
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,600
Or not, whatever, I'll be back.
Think about how many times he
1074
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,920
has he has done this song and
dance.
1075
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,640
Yeah, he's probably bored at
this point.
1076
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,880
He's probably very bored.
Things are going to either work
1077
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,640
or they're or they're not like
his.
1078
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,960
His confidence level, you know,
can be up there.
1079
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,760
We'll try maybe a little
something different this time,
1080
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,520
you know?
So if it doesn't work, oh, well,
1081
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:41,920
you got another chance.
Yeah.
1082
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,800
Right.
OK, I have to ask because I've
1083
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,880
seen this scene maybe three
times and it's still kind of
1084
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:55,000
confusing to me.
Walk me through Matt's visions
1085
01:03:55,040 --> 01:04:00,560
of his current past former
selves because I was so
1086
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,840
confused.
Are you talking about the
1087
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,240
visions he just had in in this
episode?
1088
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,360
Yes, the ones that he had of I
guess supposed to be his past
1089
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,080
selves.
And he sees his mother, his
1090
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,960
mother saying you're just like
him, you're just like him.
1091
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:21,160
And there's a there's an image
of him hanging where it looks
1092
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,600
like he either hung himself or
he killed or someone killed him
1093
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,160
and hung him.
There's another image of him
1094
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,760
drowning someone in a bathtub.
And then there's the the image
1095
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:37,560
of him and his mother, like he's
on the ground, his mother's
1096
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,440
cradling him.
And then all of a sudden they're
1097
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,680
transposed.
And then he's looking at
1098
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,160
himself.
I was like, wait, this is, this
1099
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,920
is way too much going on way too
fast.
1100
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,280
Just.
Don't.
1101
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,640
Don't overthink it.
So.
1102
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,920
But you can't tell me none of
that means.
1103
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,560
I didn't say none of it means
anything.
1104
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,600
I just said don't overthink it.
But I want to take it for
1105
01:04:58,600 --> 01:04:59,880
Anthony.
That's what I do.
1106
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,360
Thank you for face value.
Thank you for face value.
1107
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:11,000
So, so face value is these are
past versions of himself and
1108
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,160
past versions of himself are
violent.
1109
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:19,040
It could either be, but you also
OK.
1110
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:25,680
They could either be glimpses of
him and other realities.
1111
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,480
They could be glimpses of his
future.
1112
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,920
They could be glimpses of his
past.
1113
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,600
OK.
This know that one of the main,
1114
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,920
you know, one of the main things
about being the father of lies
1115
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:49,160
is manipulating the truth.
So what you see may not
1116
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,960
necessarily be in it's like
men's visions.
1117
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,720
Just because you see it doesn't
necessarily give it.
1118
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,120
It doesn't have any context.
All these things that you see
1119
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,040
have no context.
Right.
1120
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,400
So it's hard to walk you through
them when we don't have any
1121
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,840
context from this.
That's why it's so off putting
1122
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,560
either.
Yeah, I can show you your past
1123
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,760
lives, OK, But you don't know,
those could have been
1124
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,240
self-defense moments where he
was trying to protect himself
1125
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:21,320
from someone trying to kill.
Him.
1126
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,560
Like that doesn't make you a
dark person.
1127
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,560
Yeah, I guess the way that they
present it, and yeah, it is a
1128
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,800
little bit like manipulation
even to us as the viewers,
1129
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,880
because we already have it in
his mind that supposedly he's
1130
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,560
going to kill Rand.
So now you're showing him all
1131
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:45,000
these images of oh, look, here's
you drowning somebody.
1132
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,960
Oh, look, here's you hanging
like you killed yourself.
1133
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:52,600
That still being a killer.
Oh look, your mom is saying
1134
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,240
these bad things about you,
which, you know, I I never liked
1135
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,640
his mom from jump, but you know.
But one of his insecurities is
1136
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,240
he doesn't want to be like his
father.
1137
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,600
So of course she would say that
you're just like him.
1138
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,400
That's playing on his
insecurities.
1139
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,320
Yeah, yeah.
So, OK.
1140
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,920
Yeah, looking at it like that, I
can see how, like you said,
1141
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:17,120
there's no context.
So we don't know exactly what it
1142
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,800
is that he's being shown, but
it's enough to, I think, freak
1143
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,520
him out.
Yeah, it is.
1144
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,480
Yeah, and and maybe that's what
that's, that's the mindset they
1145
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,320
probably want him in for
whatever it is they're going to
1146
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,200
have that's going to happen with
him in the next episode.
1147
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:38,200
He's.
The one that's like unstable and
1148
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,760
most likely but closest to
suggestion, just because of how
1149
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,280
the dagger treated him.
It's like they're probably still
1150
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,400
trying to take advantage of
that.
1151
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,000
Yeah.
And I think at the end when
1152
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,160
Ishmael is actually cradling
him, and I think that's when
1153
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:57,080
Ishmael says the whole thing
about all of this being done
1154
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,080
over over.
He was like, I just, I just want
1155
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,240
to close my eyes and go to sleep
and not wake up.
1156
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,800
And Matt is looking at him and
he has, you know, he's got a
1157
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,960
tear coming out his eye.
He kind of smiles a little bit
1158
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,280
like, yeah, I think I wanted to.
I was like, no, Matt, that's not
1159
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,080
what we want.
Don't listen to him.
1160
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:19,399
But it's kind of like it, it, it
felt like with all of the stuff
1161
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:23,120
that Matt has been through and
the stuff that he's just been
1162
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:27,000
shown, they're trying to get
Matt to a point where he feels
1163
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:31,439
helpless, where he feels like,
oh, there's no point in all of
1164
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,439
this.
Let me just go and again, that
1165
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,080
makes me feel like Matt is
supposed to do something
1166
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,760
important because y'all are
trying so hard to bring this
1167
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,399
dude down.
Like you said, Anthony, the way
1168
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:48,080
that they've written him in the
show, it's almost like he's
1169
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,800
supposed to be a throwaway
character, you know, like, oh,
1170
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,640
Matt is the unreliable friend.
Matt is the unlucky 1.
1171
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,160
Matt is the one that he was
locked up in a cell for six
1172
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:03,359
months and no one, you know, no
one knew where he was and nobody
1173
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:07,000
cared enough to see, you know,
to try to find him or it.
1174
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,040
It feels like that's what
they're trying to do.
1175
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,680
They're trying to make Matt feel
like he's this character, he's
1176
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,600
this person that nobody cares
about and that his existence
1177
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,880
doesn't matter.
And I'm like, yeah, there's
1178
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,359
something big Matt is going to
end up doing or being, and
1179
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:23,080
that's why y'all are trying to,
to hold him down.
1180
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,960
I think at least that's the way
I, you know, I, I feel,
1181
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:32,720
especially with everything going
on with the others as well.
1182
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,399
It's like you're you're
purposefully keeping them apart
1183
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:38,800
and now you're trying to bring
them together, either to kill
1184
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,200
them or because they're about to
do something awesome.
1185
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,520
Are you talking about the the
Rand crew bringing them all back
1186
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,640
together?
The the Two Rivers crew, yes.
1187
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,880
Yeah, so yeah, they but
remember, see Lanfield told him
1188
01:09:51,880 --> 01:10:01,120
what what the plan was.
Yeah, the plan was to yeah and
1189
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:06,680
and give me the option of
joining them or killing them,
1190
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,400
so.
And I guess they figured they'd
1191
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:13,080
try with Matt first, because
Matt seems to be the weakest
1192
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,640
link.
Well, they're going to have if
1193
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:22,480
it if, if witch McCauley hadn't
escaped none Eve because of
1194
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,720
Elaine.
Like if Elaine hadn't been there
1195
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,960
they probably would have Nanny
and Wayne.
1196
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:28,800
Yes.
So.
1197
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,000
So let's move on to that part of
the conversation.
1198
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:37,120
They probably have and then they
would have all of them and he
1199
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:41,600
already he got parent already so
he has them all.
1200
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:46,520
Well, he doesn't have parent
yet, but he got he got to him.
1201
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,560
He got to him.
Yeah, when when he was in the
1202
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:50,360
cart.
But remember.
1203
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,120
Yeah, because he he he knows
where he is.
1204
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,960
Yeah, I mean, he's literally
outside home now.
1205
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,160
Right.
And he also said he ain't going
1206
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,600
to mind it because by the time
he gets here he's going to be
1207
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,760
more wolf than man anyway and he
ain't going to care so.
1208
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,280
Yeah, yeah.
OK, Let's we'll, we'll come back
1209
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,880
to parent.
Let's let's go back to 9.
1210
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,720
Even Iguan.
I mean Nineve and Elaine,
1211
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,880
because Nineve is you know,
they're they're walking around
1212
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,400
disguised and nanny was trying
to come up with a plan and
1213
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,240
Elaine was like, no, we tried to
Joe away.
1214
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:30,040
That shit didn't work.
You do what I say and follow me
1215
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:35,880
and and nanny was looking at her
like the hell, but she followed
1216
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:41,720
her and what Elaine, I I guess
what she led them to do it.
1217
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,360
It worked.
They were able to see L'Oreal,
1218
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,640
let L'Oreal know that they were
in the city.
1219
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,600
They were able to find out some
information about E Gwen and
1220
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:56,480
about the the dynamic dynami,
the the the money yes and and
1221
01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:03,600
the you know so Dom that's it
right so Dom so and.
1222
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,200
The kennels.
Yep, and the kennels and and
1223
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:10,200
where it was located.
And so they come up with a plan.
1224
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:16,320
Or maybe Elaine comes up with
the plan, but her plan so far
1225
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:21,080
seems brilliant.
They have the a Dom that Remus
1226
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:25,240
Sadai had, and they were like,
OK, so do you think this will
1227
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,840
work?
What do you think it'll do to
1228
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,240
her?
When we put it on, I was like,
1229
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,360
wait, who are they going to put
it on?
1230
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:36,960
And it was one of the Sodoms
coming through the coming
1231
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,560
through the way.
And they basically they shock
1232
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,280
her because Naive has the cuff
on her arm.
1233
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,640
And when she's looking at Naive
and she's come confused, they
1234
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,120
put it on her and then they
knock her out.
1235
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,280
I was like, oh, that's how
they're going to get in.
1236
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:58,240
Because if you think about it,
my knee looks close enough to
1237
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:03,040
what what the SIL Dom look like
because she also wears her hair
1238
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,720
and braids that we've seen the
other SIL Dom do.
1239
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,400
So I was like, oh, OK, they're
going to try to fake their way
1240
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:15,320
in, which is going to be kind
of, that's going to be kind of
1241
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,120
dangerous because of course
nobody knows Nanny's face.
1242
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,400
So they're going to look at her
with some suspicion, right?
1243
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,240
If that's what they do, if
that's what they.
1244
01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:25,440
Do.
Yeah.
1245
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,040
I mean, I mean, but that nanny,
nanny was already bossy enough
1246
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:33,720
to to be like, yeah, it's fine.
I mean, yeah, I hope that she
1247
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,720
does something because it's like
I'm getting tired of her just
1248
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,400
like Spark, Spark not not doing
anything.
1249
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:45,160
I'm just like.
Except for having an attitude
1250
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:50,280
and rushing headlong into stuff.
And you know, at least we did
1251
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:54,560
see a little bit of, I don't
want to say joy, but she was
1252
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,360
happy to see Loyale.
She was happy to see that he was
1253
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:02,360
unhurt, even though he like I
said, he is a servant of the
1254
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,280
Sean Chan.
But you know, he's he's walking
1255
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:10,760
around the the market freely.
So his circumstances aren't as
1256
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,440
bad as like, say, E Gwain's, but
you know.
1257
01:14:14,440 --> 01:14:16,640
I want, I want to, I want to
smack them little kids upside
1258
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,000
the head that were laughing at
him as he was walking past.
1259
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,200
You know what, little kids are
going to be assholes.
1260
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:27,520
That I mean that that is true in
any genre, including real life.
1261
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,560
Kids are going to be assholes to
people who look different from
1262
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:35,560
them.
So, yeah, whatever with them
1263
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:41,960
children, we don't care.
But in Gwaine, let's move to her
1264
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:49,000
because they have this little
test of I guess, I guess it's
1265
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,680
the show, the, the, the power or
the connection, the bond between
1266
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:58,440
the Sodom and the Damani.
And you have this one pair that
1267
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:00,080
goes and does this
demonstration.
1268
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,400
It's supposed to be like, what
was it that you say it might
1269
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:08,640
before we start recording their,
their air bending and you see
1270
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,720
the first group they, they do
their little thing and they, you
1271
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,560
know, they cause some a little
bit of a shockwave and she's
1272
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,200
like, oh, OK, that wave almost
touched us.
1273
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:19,840
Yeah, almost took that.
Cool.
1274
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:30,160
And Rena, Rena, let me say, let
me let me say about her when
1275
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:35,560
she's talking to Dwayne, it's so
frustrating because she starts
1276
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:40,040
out very complimentary to E
Gwen.
1277
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,840
And then what is it that Falcon
said?
1278
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:47,040
And Falcon in The Winter Soldier
is always that last sentence was
1279
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,080
that last thing.
It's always that last sentence
1280
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,040
She's telling me, Gwen.
Yeah, this is a demonstration of
1281
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,560
our power.
She was like, what was the first
1282
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,560
thing she said?
She said don't embarrass me or
1283
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,240
you or you will pay.
And at this point, a Gwaine has
1284
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,040
the full outfit on.
So she has the Adam on.
1285
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,280
She has the the gag in her
mouth.
1286
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,320
She can't speak.
And I'm just sitting here like,
1287
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,400
So they get ready to go and do
their thing.
1288
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:22,040
And Rena is giving her the
compliments.
1289
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,480
Yeah.
This is the show, the bond.
1290
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,480
Did you see her light?
Your light is going to surpass
1291
01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:30,480
her.
You're going to be better than
1292
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:31,920
you know.
You're going to be better than
1293
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,240
anyone you're going to be.
You're going to shine brighter
1294
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:35,920
than everyone.
Acting her.
1295
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,240
Up and then that last sentence
and then everyone will know your
1296
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,160
mind.
I was like see bitch it.
1297
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,320
You should have just left it
where it was.
1298
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:50,440
But I understand she's still
trying to make E Gwen feel less
1299
01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:54,680
than.
So they get out there and Gwen
1300
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,720
is looking around and she's
looking mad and what was it Rena
1301
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,520
said to her?
She was like don't worry I don't
1302
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,800
need you for this.
Meaning I just need to take some
1303
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,760
of your some of your your weaves
and I can do this part by
1304
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,800
myself.
Gwen was like Nope.
1305
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:17,600
She powered up and she put out a
blast so hard that it knocked
1306
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:23,200
everyone off their feet.
And they felt and heard it in
1307
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:27,680
the city.
Now, I was kind of wondering
1308
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:32,080
about this because I was like, E
Gwen, do you really need to show
1309
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,160
how powerful you are?
Because I would think that would
1310
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:40,720
be detrimental for her to show.
Yeah, I'm, I'm.
1311
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,960
I'm so powerful.
I'm so powerful because I feel
1312
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:49,000
like that would make them, I
don't know, maybe try to contain
1313
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:54,080
her a little bit more.
They like that and also she
1314
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,480
could look at like it's a
warning.
1315
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,840
Y'all been?
Kidding, I did think that too,
1316
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,200
especially after the exchange
that she had with Renna later
1317
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,920
on.
I was like OK, because when they
1318
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:11,280
had the exchange later, Renna
comes into a Wayne's cell, which
1319
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,280
I noticed now has a bed.
I was like, OK, so I guess a
1320
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:20,200
Wayne has been, she's been a lap
dog, but long enough that
1321
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,960
they're like, oh, we're going to
give you a bed.
1322
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,520
Or she's shown enough power that
they're like, oh, we're going to
1323
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,000
give you a bed.
We're going to.
1324
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,920
Reward you.
She's a good enough girl to
1325
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,400
actually get one, you know,
right?
1326
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,440
She gets water now.
She gets a bed, right?
1327
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:34,040
Keep it up.
Get a pillow for that bed.
1328
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,800
So when Rena comes in with the
bowl of water, E Gwen is looking
1329
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,920
at her kind of suspect, like OK,
what is she about to have me do?
1330
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,120
Because we know a Gwen does not
have a good track record with
1331
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:53,760
water while she's been Damani
and Renaissance a sponge.
1332
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,120
And she's like, roll up your
sleeves and she starts like
1333
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,520
gently washing her hands and her
arms.
1334
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,640
And I was like, what are y'all
trying to do here?
1335
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,880
What are y'all trying to do
here?
1336
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,960
Are y'all trying to make it seem
like I I don't know.
1337
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:15,320
I don't know if they were trying
to make it seem like Rena not
1338
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,880
has feelings for Wayne, not in
that sense.
1339
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:23,400
But again, I think Rena
mentioned in last episode how
1340
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,120
the Damani and Suldom bond.
They're supposed to be close.
1341
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,040
There's, you know, she's trying
to be friends.
1342
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:33,080
So I don't know if she thinks
that's appealing to Egwayne.
1343
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,400
And then she starts wiping her
face and she's like, I
1344
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,640
understand why you fight me.
So because no one has told you
1345
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:44,080
why we are here.
And she said the, the, the, the
1346
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:51,120
main task of the queen is to
unite all of the people under
1347
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,520
the light.
And we are all a part of that,
1348
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,920
you and I included.
We're a big part of that, which
1349
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,560
on the one hand is supposed to
sound good, right?
1350
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:04,520
You guys are for the light,
which is supposed to be better
1351
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,320
than the dark, right?
It's supposed to be the good
1352
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,080
part.
But the way that you're going
1353
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,520
about it, like if, if that's
been on the good side, I don't,
1354
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,560
I don't want to be on the good
side if that means I got to be
1355
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,360
your slave, if I got to be your
pet.
1356
01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:21,160
I can understand E Wayne like
whatever, because what she says
1357
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:25,840
next, she's looking at Rena and
she's so relaxed and she was
1358
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:32,840
like Rena, Rena's like, yes, E
Wayne, I'm going to kill you.
1359
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,000
And the fact that she said it
was.
1360
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:39,880
A smile on her face.
She said it.
1361
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,840
Was not like went back, went
back to the braid in her hair
1362
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,000
like yeah right.
Can't wait to kill this bitch.
1363
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:50,800
And Rental was so mad as she
leaves, but I was like, I feel
1364
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,440
like there was something more
happening in that moment because
1365
01:20:54,440 --> 01:20:58,600
she was able to say those words.
And and if you think about it,
1366
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,560
if you're saying that you're
going to kill somebody,
1367
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,120
obviously you're thinking it and
you're feeling it.
1368
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,000
And no harm came to her.
Nothing happened to her.
1369
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,360
She didn't, she didn't get the
electric, you know, the
1370
01:21:10,440 --> 01:21:13,800
electrocution from the Adam like
she did in the first episode.
1371
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,640
In the first few days, weeks
when she was there, I was like.
1372
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,240
Oh well, she found the loophole.
Yeah, that's what I was going to
1373
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:21,920
say.
She wasn't.
1374
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,160
She wasn't thinking about a
weapon.
1375
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,720
She wasn't thinking about using
something as weapon.
1376
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,640
She just stated in fact, I will
kill you.
1377
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:35,640
She wasn't thinking of any
weapons or anything, OK was
1378
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,760
telling her.
And I thought, I, I thought also
1379
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:43,840
it might have been because she
was being very passive in that
1380
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:50,240
exchange, you know, and it's
like she sat there, Rena came to
1381
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,320
her.
Rena was the one who was
1382
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:56,120
initiating the contact.
She was the one initiating the,
1383
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,680
the, the conversation.
She was the one that was kind of
1384
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,520
sort of putting herself out
there anyway, was just sitting
1385
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,120
there.
So it's like she didn't react.
1386
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,880
She didn't, you know, she was
just kind of there.
1387
01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:12,240
And I think that's probably part
of it too, because she, like you
1388
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,480
said, she wasn't actively
thinking like, oh, I'm a kill
1389
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:18,200
this bitch.
She just said it as a fact with
1390
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:24,560
no emotion behind it, with no
anger, no nothing.
1391
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:30,560
So I was like, oh, so she
displayed a very significant
1392
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,680
show of force earlier and then
she told you she's going to kill
1393
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,920
you and nothing negative
happened to her.
1394
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,680
Yeah, your time is about to
come, bitch, cuz Wayne is
1395
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:45,120
figuring some shit out.
I'm ready for it.
1396
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,600
I am ready for it.
Anyway.
1397
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,800
I'm just saying.
This whole situation has got you
1398
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:58,960
wound up.
Bro, let me tell you, I'm just
1399
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:03,760
sitting here like holding it in
just like OK Gwen come on one
1400
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,520
more episode, one more episode
cuz she's got to do something
1401
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,840
next episode.
Next episode is season finale.
1402
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,440
You are not going to tell me
that it Gwen is still going to
1403
01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:13,320
be a demonic going into season
3.
1404
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:17,400
That is unacceptable so.
That would be so fucked up.
1405
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:21,720
That would be so fun.
And you can tell it's been it's
1406
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,360
been some weeks because her face
has completely healed.
1407
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:30,360
Like she doesn't even have a
bruise, her face is completely
1408
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,080
healed so she.
She could.
1409
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,520
She could have had another
another.
1410
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,000
She could have had another.
The money to heal her.
1411
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,720
Yeah, she could have, I guess,
if she felt like it.
1412
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,120
Wayne was being compliant
enough.
1413
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:46,040
Maybe.
Yeah.
1414
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:53,960
But OK, let's when.
Let's see.
1415
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,240
Where do we want to go?
Do we want to go to Perrin?
1416
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,560
Perrin.
Let's talk about Perrin and
1417
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:05,280
Avianda and the other Ayeel.
Wayne and Chiad.
1418
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:07,480
Yeah.
Yeah, otherwise known as
1419
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,800
otherwise known as Wheel of Time
presents Dune.
1420
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,160
And it was so dark.
Is it supposed to be dark like
1421
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,000
that?
What you mean?
1422
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:24,120
The well towards the end when
they're going towards farm.
1423
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,640
Oh, it's all.
There's no St. lamps.
1424
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,600
Well, I'm just I, I, I guess
it's, I guess it's closer
1425
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,480
tonight.
It just seemed weird because.
1426
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,360
It was really dark.
OK, OK, it was.
1427
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,320
Really dark.
I had to think about that was
1428
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,400
like, wait, they have been
walking for quite a while maybe.
1429
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:47,840
But yeah, so parent gets
introduced to two more IEO
1430
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:53,120
people and the entrance.
Maidens, Maidens of the spear.
1431
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,240
Is that what they're called?
OK, Maidens of the Spear.
1432
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,880
So he's introduced the two more
and they, they communicate with
1433
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,280
each other through kind of like
a sign language.
1434
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,560
And it bothers me because
there's no translation on the
1435
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,080
screen.
You know, I watch with closed
1436
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,640
captioning.
So I'm like, there's a little
1437
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:14,360
bit 'cause like at the end I see
when they finally get to farm
1438
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,040
and they see all the water,
they're like, this is all water.
1439
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,680
How?
So I'm assuming where there's
1440
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:23,280
water outside of farm now that's
usually not water there.
1441
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,400
No.
No, OK.
1442
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,680
They were born and raised in the
desert.
1443
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,560
That's right.
I was going to say because they
1444
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:33,680
talk about how dry the land is
where they are all the time.
1445
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:39,160
Yeah, and, and and here they
bury their, I forgot her name,
1446
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,520
but they bury her there because
it reminded them of home.
1447
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:46,200
Yeah, yeah, So.
And what was it that she said
1448
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:47,640
happened?
Avienda?
1449
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:52,120
She said that she was defending
herself and the other girl took
1450
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,440
a spear to the back or a knife
to the back.
1451
01:25:55,200 --> 01:26:00,280
And while she was captured by
the white cloaks, her, the other
1452
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,000
girl died from an infection.
They couldn't, they couldn't
1453
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:09,200
heal it, the white folks.
So she has this kind of exchange
1454
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,360
with the other two girls and
they kind of look at each other
1455
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,400
in agreement.
And then they go off to the
1456
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,920
side.
They start shedding themselves
1457
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,600
with like their weapons and like
the extra clothing.
1458
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,920
And she literally just puts her
arm down and stands there.
1459
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,840
And I was like, oh, that's gonna
whoop my ass.
1460
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:29,080
Which is exactly what they did.
And then she explains to Parent
1461
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,640
later on, 'cause Parent is
looking like, yo, Hopper is over
1462
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,480
there growling.
Hopper is like, I don't like
1463
01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:36,400
this, but I'm not about to get
involved.
1464
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,360
Heron looks and he's about to
step in.
1465
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,880
The other girl was like, don't.
Heron was like OK, my bad.
1466
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,960
And then she explains that
that's her.
1467
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,120
I guess that's like her her her
punishment.
1468
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:53,840
It's her obligation.
Her obligation?
1469
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,280
The Yeah Gia toe, which is duty
and obligation.
1470
01:26:57,480 --> 01:27:02,160
OK, yeah, because, because her
friend got killed.
1471
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,880
One of the I the IO way yes,
duty and.
1472
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:07,520
Application.
It's like mutual flagellation.
1473
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,720
Oh.
My God.
1474
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,760
Yeah.
So after that they're walking on
1475
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:18,160
the way to farm and parent is
like so, so y'all cool now?
1476
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,360
Like everything is OK.
She was like, look, I, I, I did
1477
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,560
what I was supposed to do.
I had, you know, I had my
1478
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,520
obligation.
He said kind of like your
1479
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,800
obligation to me.
She was like, it's dishonorable
1480
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,160
for you to mention that.
But yes, I was like that.
1481
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,400
That was another.
I was thinking of Falcon in The
1482
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,080
Winter Soldier.
You know, he's out of line, but
1483
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:41,560
he's right.
So yeah, but.
1484
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,760
But you're right, you did remind
me of Dune because they were
1485
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,040
like, look at all this water.
And, and it was making me think
1486
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:53,720
of the scene in the movie where
where Paul was telling Johnny
1487
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,960
about his home planet.
Oh yeah.
1488
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,840
It comes out, it just falls from
the sky.
1489
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:03,440
Yeah, we're everywhere.
Yeah, we swim in it and
1490
01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:04,480
everything.
She was like, what?
1491
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,400
So, yeah.
But they, they, they walk up and
1492
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,720
they're like, here's all this
water here.
1493
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,800
How is it?
And, and parent just looks and
1494
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:19,040
he's like foam and he just has
this look of I don't know if
1495
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,920
it's determination or
resignation, but he's just kind
1496
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,320
of like, OK, whatever whatever's
about to happen is about to
1497
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:26,400
happen.
We're here.
1498
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,760
There's no turning back now.
But at least he has three
1499
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:36,080
warriors by his side, which I I
found it interesting because I
1500
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:40,320
don't know if Avienda's
obligation to parent because he
1501
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:44,200
saved her are her friends like
tagging along for that?
1502
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:44,800
OK, so.
This.
1503
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,240
This hers alone.
OK, so they they just going
1504
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,680
along for the ride.
They're like oh y'all going to
1505
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,320
fight?
We going to go fight too.
1506
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:56,520
Well, they, they, they have a
they're, they're on the quest to
1507
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,120
find the Kara Khan.
Oh, that's right.
1508
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,320
That's right.
OK, I do remember that little
1509
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:08,080
bit because she mentioned that.
What was that 2 episodes ago
1510
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,440
when she was telling parent what
they were doing?
1511
01:29:10,440 --> 01:29:14,880
OK, so all right.
Wait is the car is carcom bit
1512
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,040
going to be rain?
The chief of chiefs.
1513
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,040
Oh God.
OK, fine.
1514
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:29,280
Look, you, you with the Rand
hate, you are going to stop with
1515
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,520
the Rand hate.
Hey, hey, look, it it took, it
1516
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,920
took me an hour.
It took me an hour, 45 minutes
1517
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,280
to actually start to say
something bad about Rand this
1518
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:38,200
time.
I'm getting better.
1519
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,800
I'm just saying, look, that this
could be discriminatory.
1520
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,680
I didn't even say anything.
You're discriminating against a
1521
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:46,640
young person.
You're discriminating against a
1522
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:51,240
ginger person.
Oh my God, You and you and you
1523
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,440
and your, You and your.
Your gender.
1524
01:29:53,440 --> 01:29:55,640
Gender rights.
Active activism.
1525
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,680
Ginger rights.
Activism.
1526
01:29:59,960 --> 01:30:03,080
That's right.
Be nice to the gingers.
1527
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,440
I'm just, I'm just saying it's
like.
1528
01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:10,600
I apologize to all gingers on
behalf of the fan of Hybrid.
1529
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:12,640
You ain't got to apologize to
that for me.
1530
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,080
I loves me.
I'm listening to some gingers.
1531
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:16,240
I'm not even.
You know this my.
1532
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,800
Best friends are gingers.
Mike is Mike's views are his own
1533
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,920
and not reflective of the
family.
1534
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,520
Don't, don't put me in that
category.
1535
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,000
Stop.
Stop it right now.
1536
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,840
Calm down.
And don't, don't, don't pull to
1537
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,400
some of my best friends or
genders.
1538
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,000
That's the same.
That's the same bullshit stuff
1539
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,800
we hear white people say about
black people.
1540
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:36,960
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
1541
01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:39,440
I'm just saying it's true
though.
1542
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:47,320
But I'm, I'm just OK.
I'm I'm, I'm, I'm slowly, I'm
1543
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,800
slowly coming around the end of
this episode.
1544
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,000
Maybe come, maybe come around a
little bit on Ran.
1545
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:57,880
I was like, OK, like.
And now he's had time to process
1546
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,640
some stuff.
Right, so I'm so I'm telling
1547
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,280
you, I'm giving him I'm I'm
coming around a little bit on
1548
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,480
him.
So I'm like, OK, because that
1549
01:31:05,480 --> 01:31:10,000
because that was cool that he
that he is, he was able to to
1550
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,920
not kill Moraine and cut the
knot instead of like like
1551
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:14,880
injuring her.
I was like.
1552
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,200
Oh, OK.
So we we can go back to to
1553
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:23,440
Land's meeting with Logane.
Yes, we we can talk about Land
1554
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:27,880
fulfilling his obligation as a
warder because again, Land from
1555
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,240
the beginning of this episode,
he was on a mission.
1556
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,960
He was trying.
To scuba doing this thing out.
1557
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,840
What can I do?
How can I help her?
1558
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:37,680
How can I?
I don't think.
1559
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,600
I don't even think it was fixing
her that was in his mind.
1560
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,560
He was just like, how can I help
her?
1561
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,560
And you know, when he and
Moraine had the conversation at
1562
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,760
the beginning of the episode,
she's pissed off with him
1563
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,960
because he's now brought Suwan
into this whole thing with the
1564
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,400
Dragon Reborn and where he's
supposed to go and everything.
1565
01:31:55,400 --> 01:32:00,640
And she's kind of mad.
And he he basically tells her he
1566
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,720
was like, look, you can't do
this alone.
1567
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:07,400
You can't do this by yourself.
And I figured if I can't be the
1568
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,640
one to help you, at least she
can.
1569
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:14,400
But again, she and Suwan two
different that they're on two
1570
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:19,320
different sides of this, so.
Well then Land is a Thinker and
1571
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:23,240
he's like, wait a second, she's
been still for this long and she
1572
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:26,200
haven't tried to kill herself.
Something is going on here.
1573
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:27,880
Yeah, 'cause what did, what did
he say?
1574
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,120
He he, he went to the towers and
he, he did the research and he
1575
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:39,280
said only two women in history,
history have not killed
1576
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:44,480
themselves after being still.
So he was like, hmm, something's
1577
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:51,160
not right with her.
And again, like I said, LAN is a
1578
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,720
quiet man, but he, like you
said, he's a thinker.
1579
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,120
He's sitting there.
He's he's got the gears turning
1580
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,440
in his head like OK, and and
he's got the check boxes, OK.
1581
01:33:00,440 --> 01:33:03,440
She's not suicidal, check.
She's this check.
1582
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:05,800
She's got, she's in a foul mood
all the time.
1583
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,840
Check and.
He's oh, but but also he said
1584
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:12,400
something important.
He said there were there were
1585
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:19,720
rumors or legends that that
during the Age of Legends they
1586
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,040
could.
The Forsaken could.
1587
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,120
The Forsaken.
Cut people off from the one
1588
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,800
power without actually cutting.
Them.
1589
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,480
Yeah, without maintaining the
weaves.
1590
01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:33,760
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing.
But he he tells her this at the
1591
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:35,680
end.
But he has already kind of sort
1592
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,000
of figured this out when he goes
to see Logane.
1593
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,080
And of course, Logane is man, he
was like, you helped put me
1594
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,800
here, I got shit to say to you.
And Lance teases him with a key.
1595
01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:48,760
Like I just need you to answer a
question and you can, you can,
1596
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,160
you know, go free Logan.
He didn't.
1597
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,000
He didn't say that though.
He didn't say you go.
1598
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:56,000
Free.
I know.
1599
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,600
I'm saying that's the
implication.
1600
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,640
That's the implication.
He put the key down like, OK,
1601
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,080
I'll give you this, you just got
to give me some information.
1602
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:08,040
So he tells Logan he was like,
OK, so you can see men's weaves.
1603
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,080
What do you see when you look at
Moran?
1604
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,040
And when he asked that question,
I was like, Moran is not a man.
1605
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,040
Why would he ask that?
And then I thought about, I was
1606
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,960
like, who is this going where I
think it's going?
1607
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:24,080
And then that's when Logan tells
him he was like, she's covered
1608
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:29,680
in weaves, men, a man's weave.
And it's he was like the way he
1609
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,160
was describing it.
He was like, it's, it's covering
1610
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:36,720
her, but it's not what, what,
what was the terminology?
1611
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:40,240
He said it's there, but it's
not.
1612
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:45,520
It's not still, it's not being
actively fed by.
1613
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,960
Yeah, maintained and fed.
Yeah.
1614
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,520
So basically she has, it's
almost like she's got a chain
1615
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,600
around her that she doesn't,
that she's not aware is around
1616
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:58,080
her.
And I guess land at some point.
1617
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:02,200
Figured if Logane can see it,
Rand will be able to see it too.
1618
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:06,440
And then Alana and the the guys
come in and they like hey,
1619
01:35:06,440 --> 01:35:09,560
Karian is on fire and it's in
the foregate.
1620
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,800
So land takes the key and Logan
is like you can leave the key.
1621
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:17,280
He turns around.
He said I didn't forget what you
1622
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,400
did to Karanian stepping.
He was like you can go free when
1623
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,200
they take your ass back to the
white tower and I know 2 brown
1624
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:28,560
sisters who would love to, you
know, study you.
1625
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,240
I was like, oh, you made land
marriage.
1626
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:37,120
And The funny thing is, he says
with the same calm that he does
1627
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,520
everything else.
I'm like, I, I just want to hear
1628
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:43,000
him raise his voice one time.
I just want to see what he's
1629
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:47,800
like, like really, really mad
because Logan is just looking at
1630
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:53,760
him like fucker, like you
tricked me, man was like, I
1631
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,320
never said look, he learned from
the eyes to die.
1632
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,160
I never said I was setting you
free.
1633
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,640
I just sent the key there.
I just let you think what you
1634
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,480
want to think.
Yeah, see, this is this is, you
1635
01:36:03,480 --> 01:36:06,000
learned that shit from Lorraine,
because remember in the first
1636
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,320
episode when she was convincing,
convincing that merchant that
1637
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,960
she wanted something else, that
he just kind of threw in the
1638
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:15,040
thing that she actually wanted?
She's like, all right, there you
1639
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:15,640
go.
Cool.
1640
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,720
Appreciate you, ladies.
You should go.
1641
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:20,960
Yeah.
It was like you learn.
1642
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,200
You paid twos paying attention.
You paid attention.
1643
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,000
Words are words are important.
I think you said that before,
1644
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,280
Anthony.
The way you say things, words
1645
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:34,400
are important.
So again, we go back to what we
1646
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:37,960
were talking earlier.
They figure out that there's a a
1647
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,280
way, a door to get into the
ways, what they call it a
1648
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,760
waygate.
A waygate.
1649
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:46,200
Yeah, they they figure out that
there's a waygate, they go to
1650
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:50,520
the weigh gate and of course,
like you said, Swan is following
1651
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:54,000
them while everyone else is
supposed to be helping the hurt
1652
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,480
and and trying to calm things
down in town.
1653
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:01,760
When they get there, they're
talking about OK, Brand is like,
1654
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,800
OK, what do I need to do to open
the weigh gate?
1655
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:05,840
And Lance said you're not going
to, she's going to.
1656
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:10,400
And Moraine, I think she feels
like he's digging at her.
1657
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,080
Like, you know, I can't channel,
you know, I can't do this.
1658
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:17,520
Why would you say this and land
just Even so calm when he was
1659
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,600
like, you can see weaves.
What do you look at, Miranda?
1660
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,120
Tell me what you see.
And Miranda is like, the fuck
1661
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,800
are you doing?
And then that's when Rand is
1662
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:29,440
like, yeah, it looks like a what
did he say?
1663
01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:31,640
It looks like a cake.
Looks like a cage.
1664
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:34,120
In a.
Knot or in a knot?
1665
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:35,680
Yeah, he said.
Looks like a knot.
1666
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:41,080
And you and we can see her, you
know her, her weaves.
1667
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:44,160
And she's like, what?
What do you mean?
1668
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:49,160
And then that's when Land tells
her about the the legends of the
1669
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:54,640
Forsaken being able to do that.
And they're like, OK, Rand, you
1670
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,080
need to take it off, but you're
going to have to cut through it.
1671
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,880
And Rand is in here like what?
And Moraine is looking at Land,
1672
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:03,640
like the fuck you just.
And Land is looking at her, just
1673
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:10,760
ever so calm, like half a trust
in him, And Rand is able to
1674
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,600
break it free.
And Moraine's holding me.
1675
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:17,680
It's it, it almost looks like
she, she got younger.
1676
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,920
You know what I'm saying?
It's like her face changed.
1677
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:24,640
Her face looked free.
She was like, Oh my God, I can
1678
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,840
breathe again.
It's like I, I don't know,
1679
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:28,720
though.
The weight of the world just
1680
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,800
lifted off her shoulders and
she's able to open the weight
1681
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,280
gate.
And like we said, Swan shows up.
1682
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:42,040
She's she's what is it called?
She Shields Rand.
1683
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:42,200
She.
She.
1684
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:46,960
Knocks land out.
And she's having this
1685
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:50,480
conversation with Moraine about
you need to close this gate now.
1686
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,760
And she starts getting forceful.
Moraine was like, look, I'm not
1687
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:57,200
going to do that.
I'm still staying the course.
1688
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,840
I'm trying to do what we're
supposed to do.
1689
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,680
And what are we supposed to do?
The dragon is supposed to claim
1690
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:06,160
himself and farm, so that's
where she's trying to do.
1691
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,960
She's trying to get Ran to farm
so that he can proclaim he is
1692
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:13,640
the Dragon Reborn and so on.
Is like, no, our way isn't
1693
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,160
working.
We need to take him back to the
1694
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:16,520
tower.
This is what she said at the
1695
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:18,960
beginning of the episode.
So again, they're on two
1696
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,760
different paths at this point.
When someone told her she was
1697
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:24,320
like, look, don't make me do
this.
1698
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:29,240
Moran was like, if you ever love
me at all, don't.
1699
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:33,280
And then she says Moraine Dam
Madrid and that was the thing
1700
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:37,520
she called her Moraine Dam
Madrid and not Moraine Sadai.
1701
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:43,200
I was like, oh, OK, so this is
this is not good.
1702
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,920
And then she says, I command you
to close the way gate.
1703
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:51,800
And you see Moraine, she kind of
turns because the one power is
1704
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,640
forcing her to do what Swan told
her to do.
1705
01:39:56,840 --> 01:40:00,760
And I was like, well, that's a
20 year relationship in the
1706
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:05,480
trash.
Because again, I I felt like
1707
01:40:05,480 --> 01:40:10,200
that was a a huge violation on
salon.
1708
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:14,680
Granted, I understand why she
did it, because she thinks that
1709
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,920
what she's trying to do is the
right move.
1710
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:21,920
And she was being made to do it.
That too.
1711
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,880
That too.
But why?
1712
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,200
See, I guess the interesting
thing would be why would they?
1713
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:36,520
Why would they compel her to
make Moraine close the gate if
1714
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:40,920
their goal is to get Ransif on
in the first place?
1715
01:40:41,440 --> 01:40:45,480
A broken armaline is.
Oh yeah, yeah, OK.
1716
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:50,000
Dead armor, right?
And what would break her more in
1717
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,160
messing up their relationship?
Yeah.
1718
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,560
Watching her go through the gate
even though she's begging her
1719
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,120
not to.
Yeah.
1720
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:03,440
And and watching her go with the
Forsaken.
1721
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:07,240
With the Forsaken, 'cause I know
that's the part I was looking at
1722
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:12,480
because when Lanfiere does show
up and like even Moraine tells
1723
01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:16,600
Swan she was like don't she's
too powerful, Swan tries to
1724
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:21,160
attack her and Lanfiere puts her
on her ass like she.
1725
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:27,080
Didn't even raise her hand up.
Right, right.
1726
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:32,040
And then when she gets ready to
kill Moraine and ran steps in
1727
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,800
front, she was like, I told you
I would kill her if I saw you
1728
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,520
together and was like, what?
We're not going to do, You ain't
1729
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,320
about to kill her because you
want me to do what you want me
1730
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:47,560
to do.
So no, you're not going to kill
1731
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:50,120
Moraine.
We're going to go through this
1732
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:51,200
door.
We're going to do what the fuck
1733
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:54,400
we need to do.
And again, Lamphere is just
1734
01:41:54,400 --> 01:42:00,320
like, OK, whatever.
I know Lamphere is about tired
1735
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,200
of Ran.
She's like, look, my affection
1736
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,240
only extends so far.
You about to get on my nerves.
1737
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,640
I'm saying you cute, but you
ain't that cute.
1738
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:10,480
You need to.
You don't need to stand.
1739
01:42:10,480 --> 01:42:14,160
Step in lines, little boy.
I'm just saying.
1740
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:17,520
But you got to know that when
someone was on that ground and
1741
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:21,520
she saw Lamphere talking to Ran
and Moran and Moran was like,
1742
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,440
no, we got to go.
She's looking like what the
1743
01:42:24,440 --> 01:42:26,760
fuck?
Because I know she's probably
1744
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:30,560
wondering at this point if
Moraine is a dark friend.
1745
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:34,000
Because remember when she pulled
up, Moraine was opening the way
1746
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,400
gate and she said you lied to me
about being still?
1747
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,200
And Moraine was like, I can't
lie.
1748
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,400
But from where Sawan is
standing.
1749
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,840
If you're dark friend, you can,
because if you're a dark friend,
1750
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:46,800
you can't.
Exactly.
1751
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:48,440
Exactly.
And then?
1752
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,400
Or black eyes.
If you're black eyes are you
1753
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,840
could lie.
Yeah, I mean, and all of a
1754
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:57,720
sudden now you can channel and
not only can you channel, but
1755
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,640
you are leaving through the way
gate with a forsaken.
1756
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,960
So yeah, I'm sure someone
probably has some pretty hefty
1757
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:09,040
thoughts in her head right now
about her Boo thing.
1758
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:11,960
Like is this picture dark
friend?
1759
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,240
Like, did we do?
And now she's probably really
1760
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:15,880
thinking we did all the shit for
nothing.
1761
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:21,680
We did all the shit for nothing
because now Moraine has ran and
1762
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,800
if she is a dark friend that's
not good.
1763
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:29,080
I mean.
We know, we know the truth.
1764
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:36,240
If if this if if this stuff is
going to go the way I think it's
1765
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,880
going to go.
Y'all just don't understand how
1766
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:44,920
powerful compulsion is and how
easily the forsaken can do it.
1767
01:43:45,480 --> 01:43:48,640
Yeah.
Just just saying just just wait.
1768
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,000
Just wait.
I I mean.
1769
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:59,000
Because you saw they've already
done it on, on.
1770
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,120
Barium Sedai.
Barium sedai.
1771
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:02,280
Yeah.
And they're forsaken.
1772
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,640
They have to do it because none
of these people know how to do
1773
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:11,160
the the weaves for compulsion.
I think Leandrin did it.
1774
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:23,080
Oh OK, but how so does that mean
that because right now the only
1775
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:28,640
Forsaken that we have confirmed
has been released and is walking
1776
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,680
around is land fear?
So does that mean that land land
1777
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,080
fear somehow ended up in the
dark?
1778
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:40,080
I mean in the White Tower or.
If either one of them wanted to
1779
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,080
go into the White Tower, they
could go into the White Tower
1780
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:45,880
whenever they wanted to.
Oh, OK.
1781
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:50,760
The I guess, I guess we're not
making it clear.
1782
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:55,160
You you see, she basically
instantaneously transports.
1783
01:44:55,720 --> 01:45:00,800
She can invade her dreams.
Shamia is more powerful than she
1784
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:01,520
is.
Yeah.
1785
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:06,640
Than Linfield.
So yeah, if they wanted to go
1786
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,920
into the white tire and
compulsory, they could.
1787
01:45:10,440 --> 01:45:14,640
If Lanfrey wanted to go into her
dreams, she could.
1788
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:16,880
She's a she's a dream master.
She.
1789
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,440
I guess I would.
Why?
1790
01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:21,760
Why would that surprise you?
No, because.
1791
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,800
I I think I.
Think if Leandre hold on.
1792
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:29,800
If Leandre could compulse, she
would have been doing it a long
1793
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:31,520
time ago to a lot of different
people.
1794
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:35,280
OK, and I get that.
But I guess the thing for me
1795
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:41,160
that maybe surprises me, I won't
say confused, it surprises me is
1796
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:45,280
that you would think that
knowing the threats out there,
1797
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:50,160
that the White Tower would have
some kind of protections in
1798
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,440
place.
Like, and I don't know, I don't
1799
01:45:52,440 --> 01:45:57,320
know how magic on that level
works in this world.
1800
01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:00,360
But like, you know, if, if, if
we're thinking about other
1801
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:04,760
magical or fantasy properties
like Hogwarts or, you know, some
1802
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:08,520
of the other things, there are
Shields in place to where people
1803
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:11,440
can't get through.
So I would just think that
1804
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:15,520
something like that would exist
for the White Tower as well.
1805
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:20,440
The current president, modern
day Azadi, do not know how to
1806
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:27,320
create Shields that stay.
They have to stand there and
1807
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:28,440
maintain them.
Oh.
1808
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,520
OK, OK.
That's number one.
1809
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:37,720
Number two, again, none of them
are powerful enough to deal with
1810
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:44,360
the Forsaken, except maybe Gwen,
Naive Elaine, and Rand, right?
1811
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,960
And they don't even know how to
do anything yet.
1812
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:50,920
OK.
And I was just so when you said
1813
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:56,200
that, I'm like, so I know we
keep hearing about how powerful,
1814
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,840
especially the three women,
because Rand, of course, like
1815
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:00,400
you said, Rand is the Dragon
reborn.
1816
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,360
So of course he's the most
powerful person.
1817
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:07,840
But those three to even put them
in the same sentence and then
1818
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:11,200
for you to say they're probably
the only one strong enough for
1819
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,520
the forsake.
And I'm like, oh, that means
1820
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,720
when you seen.
Shit, Oh my bad, I didn't.
1821
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,560
I didn't mean to let that slip.
Well, I mean, sorry.
1822
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,800
My bad.
Well, you knew about the not,
1823
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,760
not even Iguane, I mean.
I mean.
1824
01:47:26,440 --> 01:47:29,120
All the most powerful we've seen
in.
1825
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:37,080
A. 1000 years and they say Gwen
and Elaine because they're like
1826
01:47:37,480 --> 01:47:41,720
Gwen is the most powerful novice
we've ever seen and.
1827
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:46,840
They even said something about
how powerful she is as a
1828
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:48,240
demonic.
She was like, your light is
1829
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,800
going to outshine all of them,
like you're going to be the the
1830
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:54,240
most powerful.
So if if they can just see that
1831
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:58,480
just with the limited amount of
power that Iguane has right now.
1832
01:47:58,480 --> 01:48:02,640
Because again, yeah, Iguane is
starting to show her power, but
1833
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,840
we haven't seen it on a big
scale yet.
1834
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,040
So I think.
They haven't been like their
1835
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:11,400
full potential yet.
Yeah, so.
1836
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:16,840
Yeah, yeah, they, they are.
They are on forsaken level
1837
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,480
power.
OK, so since you say that about
1838
01:48:19,480 --> 01:48:24,240
Naive, I'm just going to hold on
to that and it give me hope that
1839
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,720
Naive becomes a little more
likable, just a little bit more
1840
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,160
because I don't want her to be
this powerful and then me be
1841
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:35,200
like I can't stand this bitch, I
don't want to do that.
1842
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:41,320
But right now she is just.
I mean again from the books
1843
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:45,920
popularity Magic's number one
Nyneve is number 2.
1844
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:49,520
But you also said Nyneve is is
pretty much an asshole in the
1845
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,600
books too.
Yeah, but the one thing that she
1846
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:57,120
does, which why everyone loves
her, is she protects those three
1847
01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:03,720
of her kids.
OK, Like to she yes, she gets
1848
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:07,040
there and she's only there for
them.
1849
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:11,760
OK, OK.
Everything she does is to
1850
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:14,880
protect them, and she's being an
ass to people is to protect
1851
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,120
them.
She's being an ass to them is to
1852
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,480
protect them.
OK, you want to talk about the
1853
01:49:19,480 --> 01:49:22,640
ultimate mother hen?
OK, that's her.
1854
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:23,760
I can see.
I can.
1855
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:25,560
I can work with that.
I can.
1856
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:26,920
Work with that.
That is her.
1857
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,840
But it's just it's.
And she and she is a hypocrite.
1858
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:32,680
She is a hypocrite.
She she gets on.
1859
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,720
I think it was the Elaine for
how she was dressing.
1860
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,440
And then you turn around and all
you wear is silk dresses.
1861
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:44,600
That's that's her.
Oh, OK.
1862
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,280
Yeah, stop dressing like a
hitch, mom.
1863
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,000
And then she walk around just
like, you know, like, you know,
1864
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:53,080
that's just that's the exact,
that's not how she dressed.
1865
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:58,200
But it's that mentality, right?
Do as I say, not as I do.
1866
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,760
She's she's and you know, we
love her for it.
1867
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:03,240
She's great.
OK.
1868
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,360
All right.
I'll, I'll, I'll take your word
1869
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:10,000
for it.
So OK, let's see.
1870
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:13,240
Do did did we skip anything?
I feel like we skipped
1871
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,360
something.
Let's see.
1872
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:19,080
We talked about Mad Parent, we
talked about all the Two Rivers
1873
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:22,040
people.
We talked about Land, Moraine,
1874
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,840
Swan, manfare, I think
everything.
1875
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:28,880
Yeah, I think that was
everything.
1876
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:33,240
OK, one episode left for season
2.
1877
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:36,240
We're we're almost caught up
finally.
1878
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:40,760
Yay.
For y'all to start watching.
1879
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:46,120
I know, I know.
I'm like, I'm excited because
1880
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,600
you're excited.
And that, like, that has me
1881
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:54,760
excited because I've not heard
you say anything that glowing
1882
01:50:54,760 --> 01:51:00,280
about an episode in a long time.
Episode 1.
1883
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,840
Nine out of 10.
Episode 2.
1884
01:51:04,440 --> 01:51:08,840
Nine out of 10.
Episode 3 9 out of 10.
1885
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:13,840
If so, for 10 out of 10.
Oh, OK, I'm excited.
1886
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,560
I can't wait.
OK.
1887
01:51:18,440 --> 01:51:20,920
Is there anything else that we
need to mention?
1888
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:24,760
Mike, you got some shout outs.
Shots and Liam Sharif for being
1889
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:28,320
for being like the being the
scapegoat and just being
1890
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:31,440
mistreated this whole season.
Like she was holding she over
1891
01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:34,360
there holding Rand that she has
tricked into leaving her post.
1892
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:36,640
And she's like, I'm here for OK,
I'm here for you.
1893
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,840
She's like, so I was like, what
are you doing here?
1894
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:45,200
Like you asked me like I was
like, see.
1895
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:49,000
And then it's like because she's
had attitude this whole season,
1896
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:52,080
like when was like every time,
every time something happens,
1897
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:55,520
she's just like she's, I mean,
she's been rolling her eyes more
1898
01:51:55,520 --> 01:52:00,800
this season.
Yeah, but also I feel like,
1899
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,840
because I thought that too, I
was like, OK, she always has a
1900
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:08,680
nasty attitude, but no, she's
just always like, she is so
1901
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:15,240
protective of Swan and anything
that that ruffles Swan's
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feathers at all.
She don't like it.
1903
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:21,120
She don't like Leandrian, she
don't like Moraine, she don't
1904
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,000
like none of them.
She's like, look, y'all giving
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01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,240
this woman a headache and I'm
tired of it.
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01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:28,960
But yeah, I thought that too.
I was like, she got such a nasty
1907
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:33,400
attitude, but one the way she
walked in that room, I was like,
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01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:38,440
OK, this is a woman who was
like, look, I'm tired of y'all
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01:52:38,440 --> 01:52:42,400
fucking some shit up.
I don't want to be in Kyrie in I
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01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,320
want to be in the White Tower
and y'all got me out here, damn
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01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:47,440
it.
I look good, but I don't want to
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01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:51,240
be out here and I don't want to
be dealing with this bullshit.
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01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:55,440
So yeah, I I get it.
She got the attitude.
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01:52:55,440 --> 01:53:01,400
But boy, let me tell you, if
anything comes down, I have a
1915
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:05,320
feeling she's going to be the
first one with her sword, her
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01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:10,520
her weapon, her whatever up to
be like, OK, look, it's it's
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01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:14,280
time to fight.
Yeah, I can see that shot just
1918
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:17,880
swap being the rainmaker and
like putting the fire out.
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01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:23,040
I was like, oh, I was like, I
see you showing off like that.
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That was that was actually
pretty cool.
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01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:31,800
I like that and and like shut up
to I I still, I don't care what
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01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:36,040
anyone says.
I really like Swan and Rain
1923
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:39,280
together.
You could tell how much like
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01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:42,680
love there is.
But each of them knows that
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01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:44,840
something needs to be done.
They're going at it different
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01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:46,520
ways and it's tearing them
apart.
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01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:48,840
And that's just like tragic as
fuck.
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01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:52,080
But I like the little background
that we got into their love
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01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,800
story where they were sneaking
around like teenagers trying to
1930
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:56,520
see kisses here and there.
And I was like.
1931
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,800
And talking about meeting
Moraine's father and talking
1932
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:01,360
about, oh, am I going to be your
fishwife?
1933
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:03,520
No, you're going.
You're going to be my fishwife.
1934
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,160
Yeah, it was cute.
Fishwife.
1935
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,920
I was like, oh, oh God, really?
Casey Casey Marine fishing for
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01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:11,520
nothing.
Like get out of here.
1937
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:13,960
So 1 can't either.
That's what she was like.
1938
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,960
I don't see that happening.
But yeah, I thought it was cute.
1939
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:24,320
I felt again like when Brain
found out that she hadn't like
1940
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,400
permanently lost her powers.
It kind of remind me of the
1941
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,680
Wizard of Oz where Linda said
you've had the power all along.
1942
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:35,720
He's like, you mean to tell me
that I could have got my powers
1943
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:40,080
a long time ago and not going
through all this bullshit.
1944
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:42,680
Like I was like, damn, that's
fucked up.
1945
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,600
But you know, she's an actor
fucked up so she deserve that
1946
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,800
shit.
I don't care the quote was damn
1947
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:52,480
prick like him or that Matt's
mom was saying.
1948
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:57,480
Oh, OK, yeah.
Damn prick like him.
1949
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:02,640
That shit was just like.
Fuck and the crazy thing is I
1950
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:07,200
really forgot about Matt's dad
and how bad he was because what?
1951
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:09,720
We haven't seen Matt's parents
since the first episode of the
1952
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:11,000
first season.
The Season.
1953
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:12,160
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
1954
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:15,080
I forgot about how bad he was.
But when Anthony mentioned he
1955
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:18,280
was like when he said yeah, he
doesn't want to be like his
1956
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:21,080
father, I was like, Oh yeah, his
father was the one that was like
1957
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:24,320
openly cheating on the mom while
the mom was sitting right there.
1958
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,640
Yeah, you know what?
He's an ass.
1959
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:32,880
Yeah, but I, I mean, I feel, I
feel like I feel they're
1960
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,880
getting, they're getting ready
to give to, to give Matt a
1961
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:39,240
little bit of a little bit of
retribution because people,
1962
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:43,720
myself included, and I'll admit,
like, feel that he's just kind
1963
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:49,480
of been a tertiary character and
like kind of a douchebag for not
1964
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:51,760
going with them through the
portal the first time in the
1965
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:55,520
first season and just kind of
being kind of looking.
1966
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:57,880
I mean, they're kind of
portraying him like a junkie,
1967
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:01,080
just like kind of trying to get
his life right in this series.
1968
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:04,000
And it's like, I know Anthony
has said that there's more to
1969
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:05,320
him.
So I'm looking forward to it.
1970
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:09,920
I actually hope he turns his
shit around because I mean, I
1971
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:14,960
like his attitude because he's
like, I mean, you could tell
1972
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,960
that there's more to him than
what they're showing.
1973
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:22,320
And because, like, even when he
was in in prison, even though it
1974
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:26,240
was kind of set up, like, he
figured out how to, like, how to
1975
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,480
get into the other room and,
like, not and not betray what he
1976
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:32,080
was doing, even though Leandra
probably knew what she was
1977
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:34,160
doing.
Speaking of which, Leandra being
1978
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:37,200
able to enter people's heads is
scary as fuck.
1979
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:39,160
I never wanted to think about
that again.
1980
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:44,360
Like, like, do what land fear
does, like to influence people's
1981
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:46,840
minds.
If Leandra did that, like,
1982
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:50,200
that's just, yeah, I can't do
that.
1983
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,320
No, that's some bullshit.
Yeah.
1984
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:57,200
But yeah, I can't wait for the.
Family she she would just be
1985
01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:59,400
like Cassandra in Deadpool
versus.
1986
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:00,840
Wolverine.
Oh my God.
1987
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:10,840
Oh yeah, no, yeah.
Working like a puppet.
1988
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:14,640
No.
Yeah, I can't wait for this last
1989
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:17,760
episode.
I do want to give a shout out to
1990
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:25,040
the the costume department in
this show because Oh my God,
1991
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:30,040
these clothes that they are
wearing, even the stuff that's
1992
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:35,480
supposed to be like just the the
the general townsfolk clothing
1993
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:42,840
looks so good.
And like the the outfit that Ran
1994
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:46,360
had on when he went to go meet
Swan, you know, he had on a nice
1995
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:50,600
decent coat before and then the
one that Lamb put on him.
1996
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:53,440
And then with the, you know, he
had the white shirt with the
1997
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,600
embroidered collar and then his
sword.
1998
01:57:56,040 --> 01:58:01,600
It was just like.
Empty Lan's Lan's dress.
1999
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:06,200
I didn't, I just say she was
walking through that like a
2000
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:07,880
bitch.
I know I look good but I would
2001
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:14,800
rather be in the town.
She was looking good and like, I
2002
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:18,840
mean just, and, and I hate to
say it, like I said last week
2003
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:23,680
with Loyale and Inktars, they're
the servants wear because
2004
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:28,120
there's another lady in the in
the village who's wearing it
2005
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:33,600
when the soldiers are going
through that, that light blue
2006
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:38,400
and gold is so pretty.
And even the stuff that like the
2007
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:43,880
Damani and the the slow Doms
where the the black slow Dom who
2008
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:46,840
was in charge of the little
training session today, she was
2009
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:50,240
looking good.
I was like, that outfit looks so
2010
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:55,040
good on you, but I can't like
you because of what you see, who
2011
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:56,840
you are.
Right.
2012
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:02,960
Yeah, I just their, their
costuming is, is amazing.
2013
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:11,080
So yeah, but OK, up till last
episode, hopefully we see a lot
2014
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:15,840
of action, hopefully we see some
reunions because like I.
2015
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:16,680
Said.
You know, we're going to.
2016
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:20,040
You've already been over this.
All roles lead to foam.
2017
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:22,920
Everybody, everybody meets in
the middle is like.
2018
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:26,000
Yeah, this, this episode was
getting everybody in position.
2019
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:28,920
So.
And everybody else.
2020
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:36,240
Oh, and also, I will say this
too, I'm glad that Moraine knows
2021
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:41,840
that she has a community to help
her through this cause like LAN
2022
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:44,080
told her at the beginning of the
episode, you can't do this by
2023
01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:46,880
yourself.
And I'm glad that she knows that
2024
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:49,560
she has people that she can
trust.
2025
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:52,720
The you know, we're still
working out there.
2026
01:59:53,320 --> 01:59:59,360
But Alana, I don't know if I
Yeah, but.
2027
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:02,560
No, Alana was.
Yeah, they helped.
2028
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:07,360
Yeah, but you know, we were
talking about Varon maybe being
2029
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:10,560
a dark friend.
So, but you know, Alana and and
2030
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:15,680
Max Maxim and Ivan, they were
like, you don't you don't have
2031
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:17,640
to do this alone.
We're we're with you.
2032
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:23,920
So I hope that all of the the
the speculation that we had
2033
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:27,720
about Varon earlier in this
recording, I hope that all of
2034
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:31,200
that proves false and that she
isn't a dark friend and that she
2035
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:35,120
really is just, I don't know,
three steps ahead of everyone
2036
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:37,680
else and she really is on
Moraine and Rands side.
2037
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,800
I really hope that's what it is.
So you can be playing a great
2038
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:43,680
game too.
Yeah, yeah, I So let's just hope
2039
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,960
that that's what it is and that
this is our proof that Moraine
2040
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:50,800
has strong people behind her
because we know she's about to
2041
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:53,040
get some opposition.
Leandra has already been
2042
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:58,120
revealed as a dart friend.
She just basically cut her ties
2043
02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:01,400
with Swan, so she's going to
need that support and she's
2044
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:04,280
going to need people to believe
in what she's what she's doing
2045
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:08,880
and for people to believe in
rant and not try to just kill
2046
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:11,240
him.
So I'm glad we did get to see
2047
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:16,560
that as well.
So I'm ready for the last
2048
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:21,440
episode, I'm ready to see the
reunions, I'm ready for a Gwen
2049
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:26,520
whip Renner's ass, I'm ready to
see my my folks in captivity
2050
02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:31,960
escape and I guess Rand.
Is let my people go.
2051
02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:39,000
And I guess Rand is about to
proclaim himself as the Dragon
2052
02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:42,360
Reborn, so I want to see exactly
what that looks like.
2053
02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:50,720
So if nobody has any final
thoughts, that is it for our
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02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:52,840
show.
You can find us online at
2055
02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:56,880
www.phantomhybrid.com.
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2056
02:01:56,880 --> 02:01:58,480
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2057
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,040
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02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:06,040
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