The Wheel of Time S2E8 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #346

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Anthony and Mike and we are
at the season 2 finale of The

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Wheel of Time.
Woo.

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Now we can move on to season 3
and Anthony can stop bugging us

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because it's good.
But let's talk about the season

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2 finale because I have things
to say.

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OK, before we.
Get started.

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I got it.
Hi guys, my name is Mike.

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I am now the charter member of
the Mac Coughlin fan club.

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I will no no longer be saying
anything else bad about him.

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That mother fucker is a badass
and I'm glad we're here.

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And I also strictly for
Hanukkah.

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I am brands OK with me now I'm
I'm on the train now.

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It's fine, fine.
You got he got me, OK?

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He got me fine.
You know, Mike, I'm, I'm glad

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you're, you're on the mad
bandwagon.

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You know, like I said, the
fandom for the most part bounces

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between Naneeve and Matt for
favorite characters.

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But someone reminded me recently
that in at first, like the first

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handful of books, Matt and
Naneeve are like the most hated

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characters.
Oh, OK, so they they, they grow

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to that point.
Yes, they actually they actually

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get to the point of being the
beloved Prince of Ravens and Nan

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Eve of the Green Aza.
Well, he's, well, he definitely.

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Still Aza.
For it to happen here so.

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Yeah.
Let me tell you, today was the

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maybe 4th or 5th time I've
watched this episode.

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At every single time when it
gets to Matt's moment, I am like

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ugly crying at the screen.
I'm like, I already know what's

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about to happen.
I've seen this before.

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Why am I still so emotional?
And it's because it was so

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fucking overdue for Matt and I'm
so glad he had his moment.

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But we're going to get to that
part because that's all the way

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down towards the bottom.
Let's, let's bring it back and

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rewind to the beginning because
Anthony, I need you to explain

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this opening scene for us with
Luz and Ishmael and the rest of

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the Chosen and them putting him
in the the prison 'cause I think

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I kind of sort of understand
what's going on.

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Like, obviously at this point,
Luz is the dragon.

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He has, I guess, apparently
turned most of his people, most

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of his friends, including
Landfair and Ishmael, to the

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dark.
And instead of killing Ishmael,

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he's going to leave him in this
prison in a semi conscious state

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for thousands of years because
he knows this man wants to die.

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He's just like, yeah, I'm just
going to be a little asshole

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about this right now.
OK, OK, let's let's, let's back

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up the Forsaken or those eyes to
die who turn to the dark.

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They turn to the dark on their
own.

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No one turned them to the dark.
OK.

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OK, they all had their reasons,
some of them having to do with

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jealousy of Lou staring, some of
them just because they wanted

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power.
So.

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But they all have the reasons.
They all turn.

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He didn't turn it.
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OK.
OK, So what you're seeing is it

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is slightly different from the
book.

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I I said I was going to try to
get away from the book, like

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going forward, talking about
this series.

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But since you asked.
And like I said, for.

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Informational purposes for
informational purpose in the

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book when when he the drag, when
Lewis Theron took the 100

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companions, they were all male
eyes to die who went with him to

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seal the bore where of the the
Dark One's prison.

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For some odd reason, all the
Forsaken were there to maybe to

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stop him.
They all got sealed away when he

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closed the the prison.
It was not perfect because they

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needed to do with the women and
the women.

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We saw the was it the last
episode where Luz was talking to

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Letra Sadai and she was like,
yeah, the women are not going to

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help you.
No, that was like first season.

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First season, right, He said.
We're not going to help you do

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it.
So it was only men.

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So it was imperfect.
And that's when the dark wind

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tainted the male part of the one
powered.

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Oh, OK, OK.
OK, so all of the Forsaken got

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imprisoned at the same time,
except Ishmael.

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He was halfway in prison, but he
had the ability to come out

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every thousand years or so.
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And they go through this cycle
over and over and over again,

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and the Dark One is still able
to sort of touch the world

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through Ishmael.
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However, it seems like in a
series losing 100 companions

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haunted down seemingly the
forsaken and imprisoned.

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Like he caught one in prison,
caught one.

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I guess Ishmael was the last
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OK, but obviously he's the most
powerful of them, so he

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probably, you know, saved him
for last.

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Get all the other ones out the
way because what's the first

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thing he says?
Oh, the others will come and

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help me.
Nah, I already took care of

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them.
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Yeah.
So it was all the 100 companions

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versus him.
He don't have a shot 'cause they

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can shield him or whatever.
OK.

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And he imprisoned him as well.
Not really clear how he got out,

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you know, to start this whole
shebang, this series.

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But I'm going to just assume it
was something similar where

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because it was not perfect maybe
by the time they got to him it

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it it didn't really work as
well.

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Didn't ran let him out.
He was already out influencing

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the.
Work.

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Oh, OK, OK, OK, right.
Yeah, I still need to go back

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and rewatch first first season
but OK.

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Yeah.
And I don't, I don't, I'm not

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even sure.
I'm not even clear that the

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last, that last episode, their
confrontation wasn't exactly

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real.
It may have been another

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illusion.
OK.

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Because remember skipping your
head at the end when he sees

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Rand, he says, oh, finally in
the flesh.

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So maybe that what we saw was
really an illusion from him.

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See, I thought when he said.
Or maybe they were until around

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Riyadh and didn't know it.
See, I thought when he said

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finally in the flesh, he I
thought he was making a joke

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about Iguaine and Rand actually
reuniting in person because he

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knows that Landfair took Rand to
see Iguaine in the dream world.

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So I thought he was just being
an asshole, being like, oh, I

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guess you guys are finally
seeing each other again.

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You know, just kind of like
digging the knife.

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No, I thought I I took it to me.
He was looking at me and like,

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oh, finally we meet in the
flesh.

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Because remember the whole time
he's been coming to him in his

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dreams in season 1, he never
actually saw him.

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So I'm thinking even that last
sequence was it was not

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necessarily illusion, but maybe
he had them until around Riyadh

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and they didn't know it.
Because remember, he spent a lot

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of the episodes showing ran the
possibilities.

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Yeah, OK.
Yeah.

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And we and we know he's a master
of illusion as well.

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So yeah, you know how he like.
He's like low key level like.

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Right.
Matt just knew he was there and

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thought he was going to hit him
with the spirit.

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He wasn't.
All I all I heard was, are you

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never going to not fall for
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Like in like in Avengers, I was
like, alright, this

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motherfucker.
You know, you should have seen

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that.
How do you not see that?

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Yeah.
What is unclear, though, because

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of the way they're doing it.
Like how he had all the seals of

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each of the other Forsaken.
They in the book seals were

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used.
They were about palm size seals

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that were used to seal the Dark
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They didn't have their own
individual skills.

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OK, so I don't know.
I don't know how they're, I

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don't know.
I'm, I'm sort of confused about

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what they're going to do or how
they're going to do the dark

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ones prison because there,
there's something that has to be

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done later to to fix it.
And I, I'm, I'm not sure how

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this is going to work.
So, I mean, I'm OK with them

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doing it.
It's just that I need them to

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explain it because it's it, it
doesn't make a lot of sense to

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me.
But that's probably because of

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what I knew from the books.
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yeah, that was 100 companions
sealing or forsaken away.

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But we don't see how they seal,
how they seal the way the dark

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one.
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OK, yeah, we don't.
We don't know how they did that,

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so maybe they'll enlighten us
later.

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OK, OK.
Does that make sense?

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Does that answer your question?
Is what's?

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Important and no, but I think
the no part is because it if we

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look at the way that they've
kind of revealed things from

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like 1000 years ago or 3000
years ago to now, they always do

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it towards the end of the
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So we got a little bit of it in
the first season, we got this

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little bit in the second season.
So I'm pretty sure most of the

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questions that I have about the
earlier part or the Last Dragon,

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they'll probably explain it more
in Season 3.

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I don't know what Season 3 will
cover, but I'm sure we'll

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probably, especially now that we
know that the Forsaken have been

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released, I'm thinking we'll
probably get a little bit more

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of that background.
Yeah, 'cause the only thing I

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can only, like, rationalize it
is the Dark Ones somehow

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weakened Ishamael seal.
Ishamael was using the little

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influence he had to get into
Rand's dreams to guide him to

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his seal and have him break it
so he could be free completely.

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That's the only way I can make
it work in my head.

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And that's why we don't.
That's why we in the end we see

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oh, in the flesh.
Because Ram broke the seal and

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he was able to escape OK.
I'll take that.

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I'll take that that that that's
the only way it works OK.

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Yeah.
So let's see, we got a lot to

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talk about with, with the Two
Rivers folks.

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So we'll we'll go into that a
little bit later.

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I want to talk about the white
cloaks and and their invasion of

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farm because it's so strange
because on the one hand, I don't

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like the white cloaks because of
what happened with season 1,

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because of child vault.
I I just don't like the white

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cloaks.
You know, I think they're real

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sketchy group.
And of course, you know, I have

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AI have a they, they are,
they're very sketchy.

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And I, you know me and we've
done enough shows and talked

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about enough fantasy things.
Any any time that you have an

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order that is doing things
because of a religion or because

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of a belief.
IE the red cloaks.

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Yes, red cloaks, white cloaks,
Gray cloaks, green cloaks,

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whatever you want to call them.
Anytime you're you're doing it

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because of a so-called religion
and part of your mission is to

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kind of wipe out other people
who don't.

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I have a problem with that.
So I have a problem with the

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white cloaks.
They they really had me kind of

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sort of conflicted in this
episode because I'm like, OK,

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they're invading farm.
They're trying to get the Sean

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Chan out.
I have no problem with this.

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It's it's good.
I can I can kind of sort of get

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down with that.
Except for the fact that child

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Balda is there and except for
the fact that that motherfucker

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who killed Hopper, until that
happened, I, you know, I was

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cool.
Once that happened I was like

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parent go kill all of them.
At that point, yeah, fuck all

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y'all.
And see, here they go again,

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giving us characters that are,
that are ambiguously likable and

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unlikable.
It's like you either sometimes

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you're like, OK, maybe they're
not that bad.

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It's just like 'cause when we
meet the general son in the

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episode before last.
When?

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Yeah, yeah.
It's like you meet him and

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you're like, oh, well, he's
probably not that bad.

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But then we learned he locked,
he locked up the area and

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they're like, he's an asshole.
OK, fine.

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Then you see him here and you're
like, Oh well, he's still kind

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of OK, but it's like, no, his
dad killed fucking copper.

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But see, his dad's, his dad,
that has nothing to do with him.

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And even with him in the in the
few episodes before with

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Avienda, we don't really know
what like we know that she

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attacked some of the white
clothes and that's probably why

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he had her locked up.
We don't we don't really know.

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We know she's dangerous and his
character, at least him, he

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seems to be a decent person.
He doesn't like the way child

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Balda does his whatever it is
that he does, you know, and, and

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again, he was he was nice to
parent.

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He seemed OK.
You know, I'm not saying he was

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the greatest.
He's not the best.

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They have a cool nickname, but
they have a cool nickname, Two

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Rivers.
Right.

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Yeah, so and it's kind of like
even when they were fighting in

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the streets and he realized that
it was Parent and he saved, he

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was like 02 rivers and they
started fighting side by side

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because they had a common enemy.
You know, that whole the enemy

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of my enemy is my friend thing.
I think Parent was like, OK, I

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don't like white cloaks.
You all right?

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But then your daddy killed my
killed my companion.

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But I don't think parent, of
course, parent didn't know that

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was his father until afterwards.
But I I don't think he had.

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I don't think what his dad did
is a reflection on him.

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It's just the white clothes.
I think in general, that's just

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kind of like you could do so
much better.

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But it's also interesting
because you have these two

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groups, you have the white
clothes and you have the Sean

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Chen.
Both of them supposedly have

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missions having to do with
bringing people to the light,

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but they do it in very different
ways.

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Yeah, right.
And both of them are, in a

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sense, kind of horrible.
I mean, I don't know what the

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other white coats do.
Like, like you said, with the,

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with what's his, what's the
their last name?

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Warholt.
Yes, Warholt.

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Yeah.
So like with the with the

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father, like you said, in the
last season, he was basically

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with the iced diet.
He was like, yeah, you know

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what?
They stay out of our way, we

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stay out of their way.
We just going to go over here

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and do our own thing.
We're going to be cool child.

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Baldy is the one that makes the
rest of them look like an

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asshole.
No one really likes the the

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question is either the problem
Valdez Valdez group.

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They're they're they're the the
the extremists.

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And like every organization,
yeah, like this has extremists.

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Yeah, all this baby bird eating
ass that's.

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That's just, yeah.
But you know, it's just

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interesting 'cause like I said,
you have these two groups that

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supposedly have the same
mission.

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Sort of, yeah.
Yeah, but they go about it 2

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completely different ways and in
some instances very inhumane

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ways, IE the the Sean Chan.
So it it was one of those things

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where it's kind of like, I want
to root for y'all for a little

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bit, but then I'm going to root
over here.

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And then it's just kind of like,
OK, I'm only rooting for my

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people, my people that are
fighting.

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It's like what Dane Bornhall's
father said.

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You know, people have gone to
the kings and Queens of the

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different countries.
They asked for help with the

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Sean Chan and Y'all said no.
Right.

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You know that that leaves us.
We are the last line.

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You want us on that wall?
You.

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Need us on that wall?
Yeah, and I will say they was

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getting that shit done 'cause
they got they got so close

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before the Sean Chen even
realized they were about to be

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invaded because of the kids with
the the little things that you

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know.
But I was laughing because I, I

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say this every time I see a
battle scene and people are

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charging and you're supposed to
be doing like a surprise attack.

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Why the hell would you yell at
the last second?

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Just ride your horses into the
town and just be done with it.

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You're telling them that you're
coming.

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Vague to the white clothes.
They're in the book.

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There are.
There are some decent decent

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ones for the most part.
OK.

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You know there are some decent
ones so besides you that.

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Yeah, I mean, I think we
discussed that in the first

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season too, because of the
questioners.

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And child bald is like child
bald is one of the kind of

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extremes, kind of like when we
when we would discuss and cursed

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and it was what's his name?
Father?

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I can't think of his name.
But he was also like the extreme

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like, oh, OK, yeah, we're going
to hunt down the fame.

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We're going to kill them all in
the name of religion.

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Yay.
Yeah.

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No, no, but.
I mean the white clothes still

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still put children in harm's way
by having them with a sense

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sensors making that fall for
them to hide behind like.

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Yeah.
But I guess they figure, I mean,

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if you're going to have children
and you're going to be trying to

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train them for whatever it is
that that your group does in

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particular, I guess that's
probably the safer.

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Ready.
To have them participate because

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they kind of stuck some swords
in their hands and and said,

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hey, go out on the front lines.
We're going to lower visibility

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and send the 10,000 charging
horses behind you, OK?

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Yeah, that works.
OK.

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All right.
Sure.

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I'm just saying that in harm's
way.

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The boy infantry up there my.
God, yeah, don't, don't let them

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get run over by.
Watch the horses, mind the

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horses.
Yeah, right.

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Yeah.
Right.

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I can't see through all this
fault.

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Oops, sorry, but sorry lad.
Let me tell you the The fact

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that this man continuously
evades death bothers me so much

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because.
Bother.

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Yes, because you get attacked by
the wolves and you live it.

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Gwain stabs you in the neck and
you live.

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You get attacked by another wolf
in this episode and you live it.

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Gwain sees you from the tower
and that is what makes her

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decide to attack because she was
like, I'm not attacking, I'm not

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attacking.
There's people down there.

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Oh, white close bed.
Oh, and he's still alive.

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It bothers me so much.
I just want this man to die.

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All all I'm going to say is Yep,
you're you're just going to get

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a lot of Alder.
You don't have to do that for

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me.
And you haven't even scratched

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the you.
Should have let me hold on to my

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hope.
Damn it.

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You you don't even know half of
it.

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Shit, OK, but going back to this
invasion.

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So of course, like I said, the
white, the white clothes, I was

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about to say the white folks,
the white folks, the.

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White folks, I mean, but yeah, I
mean six in one hand, half a

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dozen in the other.
I.

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Mean, it's been a long one.
Yeah, I'm so sorry.

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It's been a long month.
So the white clothes in they

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they attack foam And of course,
now the sole Dom and the Damani

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are being brought to the front
to to fight.

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And Rena goes to Iguena.
She tells her this.

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She was like, you know, sole Dom
and Damani are being called to

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the tower to help defend the
city.

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She said you, your, your
behavior in this cell is one

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thing, but if you disobey me in
the middle of a fight, then we

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discipline you by cutting out
your tongue.

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And she tells Iguaine to stand.
And Iguaine is she just

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basically look at her like, no,
I'm not going to stand.

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And she reaches her her knife
out into Iguaine's mouth.

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And she forces her to stand up.
And Iguaine, even though she has

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a knife at her tongue, she's
still looking at her defiantly.

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And Rena pulls the knife out.
She puts the little gag in her

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mouth, and she turns her around
and says, well, maybe this will

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make you obey.
And she cuts a Gwaine's braid

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off.
I knew in that moment Rena was

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going to die in this episode.
It was at that moment.

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It was there.
She fucked up.

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She fucked up.
First of all, first of all,

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before Mike get started, first
of all, get that dirty damn

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knife out my mouth.
Let's just start there.

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Let's.
Let's start there.

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Go ahead, Mike.
Then see, this is the kind of

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thing where is she actually was,
you know, I mean, she she kind

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of like at the beginning, she
kind of tried, she tried to like

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get her with kindness, but like,
OK, you know, I'm let's keep

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your name.
You know, I'm gonna be nice to

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you.
We can be friends, you know,

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also stuff.
Now she now, now that she

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realizes that Dwayne doesn't
like her, He's he's never going

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to like her.
She's like, yeah, whatever, get

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the fuck up.
Let's go.

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No.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no.
I'm going to correct you.

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I am going to correct you.
Because what she did, and we had

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this conversation in the last
episode, she would start the

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nice stuff, but then here comes
that last sentence where she

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deliberately backpedals or she
she she crosses out, negates

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whatever all of the nice stuff
she says by the one little thing

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she says at the end.
She's been doing this

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consistently since she and the
Gwen had been put into a room

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together.
So no, it wasn't a oh, she's

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she's been nice to her.
And now that she no, she has

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been in, she has been like that
since we met her.

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She just kind of crossed the
line with this one, probably

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because she realized in the last
episode one, a Gwaine is

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defiant, but she's found a way
to be defiant without it harming

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her.
And then, you know, when she

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came in, in the last episode, a
Gwaine was braiding her hair.

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And I think she realized that
for a Gwaine, that's either a

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symbol of strength or maybe from
where she came from, that's a

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symbol of status or something.
But she realizes that the hair

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is probably more important to
Iguane cause Iguane is probably

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like, OK, you can cut out my
tongue.

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I'm still gonna be defiant.
But she cut her hair off and

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it's just kind of like it did
something to her.

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It that was, it was like the
last piece of you stripping who

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Iguane is away from her.
And at that point you can see

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Iguane be furious.
And not only that, Rand has

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gotten into the city and we'll
we'll get into that in a little

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bit.
But Rand has gotten into the

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city and he sees the Soul Dom
and the Damani marching towards

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the Tower.
It's one thing for him to see it

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Gwen in a dream and know that
she's being held captive.

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She's being held prisoner.
She's in a cell.

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To see her being paraded with
her short hair and that gag in

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her mouth.
Did you see the look on Rand's

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face?
Rand was like, I'm about to kill

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all y'all motherfuckers and then
in the next scene when we see

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him, he did exactly that.
OK, so but before.

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But before, yeah, before we get.
To that so you know in the book

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Rand at this point in the book,
he has been training with land

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on on becoming a blade master.
So he knows he he is pretty good

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with the sword and he comes
across to rock another blade

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master.
He's oh, well, let's see what

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what it takes to be a blade
master here in in this land.

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And they have a really, really
good sword fight.

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OK, and this show ran was like I
got time for your bullshit.

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Let me let me make sure order of
that shit was so funny to me

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because I was expecting a good
sword fight because the way

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Torok grabbed his sword was like
I was like oh he got to show

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y'all some shit.
Ran said Nope fuck you and your

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Mama who kicks all of them.
I was like I was like y'all made

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Ran mad.
Ran was like no y'all didn't

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just parade my girl with a gag
in her mouth and cut her hair

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and we nothing have that.
Yeah, he's like, I got shit to

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do.
We let's let's let's let's

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let's, let's go up as.
I would be, I would be remiss

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and Nick would be upset if I
didn't say this was like the

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Indiana Jones scene.
Yeah, like, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, if I don't have time
for this bullshit.

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Not at all.
Rand was like, you got, you did

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00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,120
this to her.
And Turok was like, yeah, let's

447
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:35,880
fight.
Rand was like, no.

448
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,600
Given he was a lower level blade
master it it it still would have

449
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,920
been a good fight to see but.
You mean RAM being the low

450
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,120
level?
No.

451
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:49,040
Well, in the book they were
probably about the same level,

452
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,200
low level.
Oh, OK, But see, the way, yeah,

453
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,600
'cause I was going to say the
way the show makes it seem is

454
00:27:54,600 --> 00:28:00,160
like Turok is kind of, I guess
he's the leader.

455
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,960
So it just kind of gave the
sense that he was the, and you,

456
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,880
I, I think you also said he was
the one who actually was in

457
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,680
command of the military.
Yeah, he was.

458
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,880
He was the commander.
So yeah, you can't be a

459
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,920
commander of the military if you
don't know your shit.

460
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,320
Yeah, at least you're not
supposed to.

461
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,000
Well.
The whole the whole thing about

462
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,760
the blade masters is a weird
thing too, because you can

463
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,240
become a blade master by
defeating a blade master.

464
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:31,400
That's one way.
The other way is to be judged by

465
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,360
5 other blade masters
unanimously in using the forms

466
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,280
which that can be manipulated if
you have enough money and power.

467
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,880
You know, 'cause even Valde
Valde is a blade master, but

468
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,760
people question how he got to
become a blade master.

469
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,440
I would too.
I would.

470
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,520
Too question every I question
everything about him like.

471
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,840
Yes, 'cause something something
just ain't right about him.

472
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,560
But OK, let's, let's go back.
Let's go back to the whole Rand

473
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,080
thing and how he gets into farm.
So in last episode, we know they

474
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,880
went through the way gate to get
to farm.

475
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:16,320
So it's Rand land fair, Moraine
and and land.

476
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:23,040
And when they're going through
the way gate land fair is like,

477
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,440
you 2 are being mighty quiet
back there.

478
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,560
Is that something I should, you
know, I should be worried about?

479
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,600
She's talking to the Moraine and
land.

480
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:37,160
And then they come up, there's
a, you know, a area where I

481
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,440
guess there's supposed to be a
way gate Moraine is like, OK,

482
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:45,880
man fair, open up the way gate
phone and man fair was like, you

483
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,680
do it.
And she said, she said Ishmael

484
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,200
took my powers from me.
And she said, oh, you got a good

485
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,000
way with words because I know
you got your powers back.

486
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,160
I can see the weeds on you.
I was like Moraine, she's a

487
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,400
forsaking.
You think she don't?

488
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,600
You really think she don't know
you got your powers back?

489
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:09,520
Right.
But then she tells them that she

490
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,440
was like, yeah, OK, so you're
going to go the phone when the

491
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,640
time comes, raise the banner.
And then she literally opens the

492
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,080
door.
She pushes them through and then

493
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:24,480
she closes it, leaving just her
and Rand in the waves and.

494
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,680
Pushed them out, pushed them out
in in the beach, on the beach is

495
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,520
like, yeah, go get some sun,
then I'll see you later.

496
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,920
Like God damn.
Like in the in the middle of

497
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,000
like far away from fall, far
early enough from fall that they

498
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,000
can see it and be like fuck.
Like now.

499
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,440
Well, first they didn't know
where they were.

500
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,320
Yeah, right.
They were like what the fuck?

501
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,120
They were far enough away and
then I think if we judge the way

502
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,120
the IL maidens reacted when they
got up to farm, there's not

503
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,680
supposed to be water there,
right?

504
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,600
No, they were.
They didn't know.

505
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,160
They had never seen water like
that before.

506
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,320
It wasn't that there wasn't
supposed to be water there.

507
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,640
They were just like, Oh my God,
is that water?

508
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,360
Oh, OK, 'cause I thought, I
thought somebody made the

509
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,280
comment like is that supposed to
be there or something like that?

510
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,880
So I thought that maybe it was
something something weird that

511
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,240
they had done too.
It's support.

512
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,520
It's support city.
Oh, OK, OK.

513
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,240
I do want to say, you know,
again, they show us how powerful

514
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:30,000
the Forsaken are because when
we've seen Moraine and Leandrian

515
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,120
open the way gate, they have to
do all this extra stuff with

516
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,680
their powers to get it open, and
Landfree literally just opens

517
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,120
her finger and it comes open.
Right.

518
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,800
Yeah.
Right, and also want to point

519
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,560
out that Marine is of the active
eyes to die in this world.

520
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,360
She's the most powerful.
You think I couldn't figure that

521
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,040
out with this episode?
Because I was like, if I didn't

522
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,880
know how powerful Marine was
before, you definitely found it

523
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:05,520
out in this episode.
But that still is pales in

524
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,680
comparison to how powerful
answer is.

525
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,480
That's crazy.
That is crazy.

526
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:17,000
That that's crazy because I will
say this when Moraine and land

527
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,080
after they had their
conversation, like they had that

528
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,640
much needed conversation when
land was like, look, you need to

529
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,600
let me back in, give me this
bond back.

530
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,400
And she was like, you still want
it after everything I've done,

531
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,840
You know, especially the way.
He's been chasing after you,

532
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,360
woman.
God damn you what?

533
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,600
Here you pull you back in?
Wait, you still want to abuse?

534
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,280
I think she, I think she
actually needed to hear what LAN

535
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,240
had to say to her, because LAN
was basically like, look, you

536
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,720
can't hurt me anymore.
I know, you know, I, I was upset

537
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,240
when you said what you said
about us not being equals.

538
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,680
But I believe in you.
I believe in your mission.

539
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,800
I think she needed to hear
somebody say that.

540
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,040
That woman is asking.
Huh.

541
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,560
That woman is madding to me.
Like she.

542
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,520
Is she is, but also I will say
this, she just she just dealt

543
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,160
with a very big betrayal from
from one from the other person

544
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,280
that she loves.
So I can kind of understand her

545
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,720
just being like, you know what,
I'm just going to do this alone.

546
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,280
And that is like, look, I got
your back, but I need to have

547
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,920
that bond back.
I understand.

548
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,840
He was like, look, I'm I'm lower
on the total pole than you.

549
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,920
I get it, I'm OK with that.
I understand it, I accept it.

550
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,080
And then that's what she told
him she was like.

551
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,680
Look, the only reason why I was
even able to say that to you is

552
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,800
because one thing has been true
since I met you.

553
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,000
You have always been my better.
And he's just looking at her

554
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,560
like, OK, now that we got that
clear, give me the goddamn bond.

555
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:59,240
But I will say this once he once
they get the bond, once he gets

556
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,120
the bond back and of course, the
the Sean Chen warriors start

557
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:09,440
coming to the beach while she's
trying to disarm the Sean Chen,

558
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,120
the money that are on the sea
because they're shielding Ran at

559
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,400
this moment.
Oh, but but wait, remember, I

560
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,440
just wanted to point out she got
the stat boost 'cause he's like,

561
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,679
are you moving faster now that
Yeah, Oh, I don't feel like I

562
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:26,639
got 5 buckets on my back.
Right.

563
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,719
But also with that, he got the
stab boost too, because when the

564
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,320
soldiers start coming, she's
like, OK, I'm going to do my

565
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,719
thing.
You going to go do your thing?

566
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,760
He's sitting there fighting all
of the soldiers.

567
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,000
There is an Archer up on the
cliffs shooting arrows at

568
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,440
Moraine.
This motherfucker's plucking the

569
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,320
arrows from the air and then
stabbing the soldiers.

570
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,960
Here come another one Shrink.
First of all.

571
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,159
This is where Anthony was
talking about.

572
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,840
This land stand we would have
been able to do it without.

573
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,760
I open.
The status I understand.

574
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,480
It I understand, but it was
still just.

575
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,320
It was still great because and
first of all, and and Mike will

576
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,680
point out, I'm sure that why
y'all taking him one at a time

577
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,040
thumb answers.
I'm just saying I mean.

578
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,040
I don't think it would have made
a difference.

579
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,320
That's what everybody does this
like they they, they think this

580
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,720
is this like a old Bruce Lee
film where Bruce Lee is in the

581
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:26,200
middle of like 50 guys and they
keep coming at him one at a

582
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,240
time.
He's like this beating him off

583
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:31,600
and it's like really awesome.
Really.

584
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,600
It's like y'all need to really
just like, I mean all together

585
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,960
now.
I mean, I guess, I guess maybe

586
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,200
they're trying to avoid hitting
each other in, in that kind of,

587
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,360
I mean, I, I, I'm just.
Well, the The Archers have no

588
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,200
instincts.
One, this is your but if if I'm

589
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,800
shoot, if I'm shooting arrows
and this mother fucker is

590
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,720
plucking the arrows out of the
air, then I would have to try

591
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,280
something else 'cause obviously
what I'm doing is not working

592
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,200
like you way up there and you
can't even like how how do you

593
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,600
even know?
Do you hear the arrow whizzing

594
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,840
by that?
Like, yeah, at this point, if

595
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,000
I'm shooting arrows from the
Cliff and he's catching them and

596
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,040
I'm, I'm just wasting my time up
there.

597
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,640
I'm wasting my energy.
I'm wasting good arrows.

598
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,560
Let me go down to let me go down
to the beach and let me get into

599
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,280
the fight and maybe get a lick
in or something.

600
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,560
And he's.
Like my Mama gave me that arrow.

601
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,880
I mean.
Yeah.

602
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,640
Man was doing his thing.
I'm just saying, but I mean,

603
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,200
Land showed why he's why he is
who he is.

604
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,200
And it's like that that scene
was one of this see, this

605
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:52,680
episode had a lot of really
good, good fight scenes.

606
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,560
They're like this.
This is one that that was more

607
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,520
one of the more action-packed
episodes of the whole series

608
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,280
period up to this point.
Like this a lot that we're in

609
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,800
the couple that we're going to
get into.

610
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,800
But yeah, this one was was been
pretty fucking badass.

611
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:11,400
Yeah, yeah.
But man was doing his thing and

612
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,040
I was sitting here thinking in
my head.

613
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,320
I was like, yeah, OK, This is
why we're land stands like this.

614
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,040
This this episode is exactly
why.

615
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:27,520
So I love it.
But OK, let's go back a little

616
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:33,440
bit more, little bit more.
I want to go back to let's talk

617
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,920
about not even Elaine for a
minute because and I already

618
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,280
know, I already know Mike got
some stuff to say.

619
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:47,720
Mike, go ahead 'cause I know you
feeling some things about Naive

620
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,240
and this fake Sodom role that
she is playing right now.

621
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,400
Yeah, I, I was scared.
Like I was like, 'cause she

622
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,760
enjoyed that.
Even though she did look like

623
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,000
she was enjoying it.
She was in she there was some

624
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,120
moments that she was kind of
having that she was, she wasn't

625
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,360
having fun, but she could feel
the power like she was like, I

626
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,280
feel a sense she felt like
different sensations like and

627
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,480
she was trying to and like the
power.

628
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,880
I think she was not necessarily
enjoying, but appreciating the

629
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,640
power that she had over her.
Like she she saw her, like had

630
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,680
her, had made her kneel before
her.

631
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,920
It's like I'm looking at it now.
It's like I.

632
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,120
Don't.
I don't think appreciation

633
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,400
really plays into it.
Naive was pissed and I think

634
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,680
that's all it was.
She was basically like, OK, I'm

635
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,720
angry.
And not only that, we saw, I

636
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:48,200
mean, we've seen all season
Naive has not been able to

637
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,440
channel when she needs the
channel.

638
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,800
So the fact that she has this
cuff on and she can feel the

639
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,880
connection between her and the
girl and, and she's already got

640
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,840
this rage about what's going on.
I, I don't think, I don't think

641
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,000
appreciation had anything to do
with it.

642
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:06,080
She was just basically like, oh,
yeah, I feel this bitch in my

643
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,640
head and I know exactly what
they do to their people.

644
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,080
Oh yeah.
I'm gonna let her see what it

645
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,240
feels like for a moment.
I think that's all.

646
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,400
I don't, I don't think Mike
meant appreciation in in the in

647
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,320
the positive sense where I just
see me.

648
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,560
She kind of understood.
Yeah.

649
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,880
She understood the power that
you can have over another

650
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,920
person.
Is that right, Mike?

651
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,040
I think that's.
What she she said she felt the

652
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,360
bubble of sensations and all I
have to do is push.

653
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,400
And it's like she was just like
every time she she ripped her

654
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,960
hand and and made and made made
her twist, even though she was

655
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,000
begging, ironically begging for
her to take it off, which is

656
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,440
probably something that she
something that she experienced

657
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,560
doing it to someone else.
Like, oh, how's that feel?

658
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,880
Right, But Elaine was just like,
Elaine was like, what the fuck

659
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,960
you, you, you do get what you
need.

660
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,880
And it's like, I mean, they were
just, I mean, she was just so

661
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:08,040
in, I mean, not even, not even
mean, just ruthless, you know,

662
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,440
I'm saying it's like, it's not
necessarily like being mean.

663
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,880
And it's like even when she was
like, if you even try to get

664
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,160
help.
She said.

665
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,680
I promise you I will make the.
First, the first kit your mother

666
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,280
gave your father.
I'm like that shit.

667
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,800
I was like, that's some poetic
shit.

668
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,360
But also, that's some mean
fucking shit dude.

669
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,840
But you know what?
I felt every ounce of the hatred

670
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,520
she had when she uttered that
line, and I'm so sorry.

671
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,480
I'm here for it.
I told you I don't like the Sean

672
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,080
Chan.
I don't like what they're doing

673
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,640
to the women.
The fact that she was doing

674
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,160
that, I was not bothered at all.
I was like, OK, I know this

675
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,360
should really bother me.
But given and I think it's also

676
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,760
because we see what's going on
from the outsiders point of

677
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,560
view.
So we know what kind of torture

678
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,800
E Gwaine has gone through.
We know what they do to the

679
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,800
Damani.
So we have that insiders

680
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,920
knowledge.
So what I'm looking at and I

681
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,760
need do this to that girl, I was
like, oh, how's the weather over

682
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,680
there?
Yeah.

683
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,080
I mean, it's I.
Just like I just like to look on

684
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,560
Elaine's face, like why didn't
you check on you?

685
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,920
Your check on your friend
Elaine, take on your friends.

686
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,120
Is she alright?
I'm getting.

687
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,000
Anywhere near that.
I wouldn't get anywhere near

688
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Nanny's when she's like that.
I'm like I'll be I'll be across

689
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,400
and be like you alright?
You OK?

690
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,000
Edging towards the door like I
don't even though I don't have

691
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,240
windows windows necklaces on.
Like you were scary as fuck

692
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,840
right now.
Yeah, but I think kind of going

693
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,880
back to what I said in the last
episode, not even Elaine, They

694
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,080
they balance each other out.
And there is a time for Elaine

695
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,400
and her calmness and her her
gentleness and her clear

696
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,080
headedness.
And then there is a time for 90s

697
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,840
rage.
And even though it may Elaine

698
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,240
uncomfortable, I think she
understood that because they

699
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:13,320
weren't getting anywhere with
that girl being nice or just

700
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,920
asking questions.
This girl sitting here begging

701
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,400
you to take it off.
Oh, we, they're, they're going

702
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,120
to take them to the tower, but
we can't go to the tower because

703
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,600
I don't want them to see me like
that.

704
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,080
You think her friend wants her,
wants anybody to see her like

705
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,480
that?
But y'all didn't have a problem

706
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,640
parading her up there.
That's the least.

707
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,080
That's the least of her problem.
You.

708
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:33,120
That is the least of your
problems.

709
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,880
You you worry about your friends
seeing seeing you in this thing.

710
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,760
That's the least of your
problems right now.

711
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,720
Worry about having worry about
having a spine after nanny like

712
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:49,840
turns her wrist the wrong way.
Right, because I was really

713
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,200
thinking I was like, she is
really going to kill this girl.

714
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,760
But no, I mean, that wouldn't,
that wouldn't serve their

715
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,000
purpose.
But I think she just felt like

716
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,720
she needed to get a little bit
of it out.

717
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:03,480
And I hate to say it, though,
why is that the only time that

718
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,440
we got to see my knee use her
powers?

719
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:11,360
Because again, later on when she
needs to use her powers, she

720
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,760
can't do shit.
Yeah.

721
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,800
And it's just at this point it's
starting to frustrate me now.

722
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,320
I I think I, I think I kind of,
I think I've said this before, I

723
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,840
think they really had to do it
because they showed how powerful

724
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,360
she was early.
So they made her block even

725
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,960
worse than it is in the books.
And I think that's what I was

726
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,080
feeling because at first it was
like, yeah, I don't remember her

727
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,120
having the block.
You just wasn't as bad.

728
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,640
OK.
And it it yeah, she can only

729
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,400
tell when she was either angry,
upset or really emotional.

730
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,880
But here it's like they even
when she's angrily upset and

731
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,440
emotional, she still can't
channel and like you made it

732
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,520
worse than it is in the book
because she you made out you

733
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,560
made it and you reinforce it
every week.

734
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,640
The most powerful channeler
we've seen in 1000 year blah

735
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,000
blah.
And so they had the nerf her

736
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,160
because if she could just do
anything it would be more than

737
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,000
what Marine could do.
Yeah, and I and I get.

738
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,880
That from there, it's like, it's
like you can't, you can't just

739
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,120
have you hit.
You already gave had her, had

740
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,880
her have a moment where she's
like incredibly fucking

741
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,960
powerful.
It's like, what else can she do

742
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,480
without?
And you can't have her do it

743
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,800
without training.
You just didn't just have her,

744
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,360
just have.
I'm not looking for her do I'm

745
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,920
not looking for her and I'm not
looking for her to show like

746
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,000
this big enormous display of
power.

747
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,520
But can you at least get can you
at least get the girl's arrow

748
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,840
out of her leg without having to
push that mother fucker through?

749
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,040
No, I get it.
Yeah, That's that's she was like

750
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,560
mother fucker like Evelyn
Evelyn.

751
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:05,040
She's she's actually like really
like dedicated to the other than

752
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,760
that I've been like, no, heal
me.

753
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,120
No, figure that shit out.
Don't push that shit through.

754
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,280
I would say like can you break
off the tip 1st and then pull it

755
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,360
through?
I would think as a wisdom she

756
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,200
would know that that's like
basic one.

757
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,160
Unless the arrow's like,
extremely hard, I mean.

758
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,440
Basic and I was wondering that I
was like the arrow made.

759
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,480
Of basically you break it, you
just break it and pull it out.

760
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,040
I don't understand.
I don't.

761
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,040
Understand.
I mean, the only the only thing

762
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:39,520
I can think of as far as a
reason why she didn't do it that

763
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,920
way is because if you break it
off and it's not a clean break,

764
00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:46,840
there's a possibility of leaving
splinters in the flesh.

765
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,240
That's why you don't break it
off on the inside, on the

766
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,440
outside.
No, but she's still.

767
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,600
You break that, you break it,
OK.

768
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,720
You see what I'm saying?
If it's not a clean break, you

769
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,120
still got to pull part of it
through the flesh.

770
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,680
And if they're, if it, if it's
jagged on the edge and it's

771
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,360
coming through the flesh,
splinters might pull off of it.

772
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,440
Yeah, but she could, she could.
She could get like feather

773
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,240
feather parts off of it in there
in there too.

774
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,320
Well, I mean, they were in the
middle of being attacked, so I

775
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,560
mean, I'll give her that leeway,
but I'm just like, dude, can't.

776
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,440
Can you at least just do
something?

777
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,120
And and then here's the other
question.

778
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,000
Could Elaine not do that for
herself like.

779
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,080
No, you cannot heal yourself.
OK, OK.

780
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,920
Moraine Moraine established that
in Season 1.

781
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,920
OK, I can't.
I can't remember if it was just

782
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:44,840
because because Moraine had
trollic poison in her wound, so

783
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,280
I didn't know if it was just
because of the trolley poison.

784
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,080
They just can't do that to
themselves.

785
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,920
Yeah, you can't hear yourself.
But even not healing herself,

786
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,480
she couldn't use the power to
get the arrow out of her own

787
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,080
leg.
Technically speaking, that's not

788
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,240
healing herself.
Yeah, she could have, but what

789
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,600
would have been the difference?
Yeah, I, I, I guess they just

790
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,720
needed to show us that.
Nanny, you still can't do shit

791
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:14,320
right now.
I mean, and I guess also to

792
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,160
establish, you know, once they
did get the arrow out, Elaine

793
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,280
was like, just leave me here,
I'll slow you down.

794
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,600
She was like, no, cuz we, we
don't even know if I can channel

795
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,360
when I get there.
What every Wayne needs.

796
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,360
She's she's going to need you.
So I guess it was also to kind

797
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,640
of establish that like 90s
acceptance of, OK, Elaine is as

798
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:38,680
important to this whole thing as
I could be or as parent is or

799
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,320
whatever I think is.
It was just to establish that

800
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,200
Elaine is a part of this group
now.

801
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,160
But still I was like.
But she's like, no, no, I still

802
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,640
can't do anything.
I need you.

803
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,240
No, you have to come.
Yeah.

804
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,160
Well she already bonded with
Nanny, with Elaine, with Wayne,

805
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,760
so now she has to have a bond
with bonding moment with Nanny.

806
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,280
Yeah, yeah.
Because like I said, and I think

807
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,640
we all said this, we like the
dynamic between the two of them.

808
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,640
And I think that was just kind
of the further establish it.

809
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,960
But I I need naive to come.
Out we also we also had to have

810
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,680
the the traditional key key
light moment with Elaine

811
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,800
standing over Rand.
Who are you with?

812
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,360
I was like, what are y'all doing
with that?

813
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,120
Are y'all trying to make it seem
like, oh, this is my this is my

814
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,120
Angel.
I was like, cuz which I'm not

815
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,040
about to do is put make make
this a little triangle.

816
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,480
This, this ain't gonna work.
Got the triangle enough going on

817
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,280
right now.
And I see Anthony look with his

818
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,040
eyes over to the side sipping
his coke.

819
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,840
So I'm just going to ignore that
look on your face right now

820
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,760
because I'm not going there and
I'm annoying that laugh and that

821
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,640
smile you have, 'cause I'm not
going there.

822
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,360
We have a love triangle going
on.

823
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,960
We don't need to add another
person to it.

824
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,680
No.
Look at his face, Mike.

825
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,920
Look at his face.
I.

826
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,160
Know because I know because I'm
sick of just creating Tris Tris

827
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,080
trio Tris two.
It's like it's like you got

828
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,640
everything got being freeze like
damn it it just two people just

829
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,760
enjoy themselves like you ain't
gonna have it where But yeah, I

830
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,960
was like I I saw that too and I
was like interesting like what

831
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,120
the hell is going on here is
like is it a truce or is it just

832
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,600
like rivals?
I mean, it's like.

833
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,160
Whatever it is, we don't need to
have it.

834
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,880
Are you trying to have all that?
No.

835
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,440
No.
OK, let's go.

836
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,560
OK, let's go wait to Pat and
Fain's bitch ass.

837
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,720
Yeah, let's talk about this.
My fault.

838
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,240
This was this was this was oddly
satisfying to me because he he

839
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,560
set the dagger down for him.
He's like, yeah, I know you want

840
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:56,600
it.
Go ahead and get it.

841
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,360
No, it's cool.
I'll just wait outside.

842
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,120
I'll.
I'll leave you 2 alone.

843
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:06,080
Then, then, Then I was like, OK,
shout out to Dad for being

844
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,160
smart, being smarter than the
average.

845
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,680
And he was like, OK, I'm going
to put it down here.

846
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,800
I'm not going to touch it.
I'm just going to tie it.

847
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,240
Matt was like y'all going to
stop thinking I'm stupid?

848
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:17,240
He's.
He's much smarter than people

849
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:18,960
give him credit for.
Right.

850
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,560
Matt was like no, he it's one of
those things where it's fool me

851
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,000
once shame on you, fool me
twice, shame on me.

852
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,480
Matt was like I've had history
with this dagger.

853
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,560
I know what this dagger does.
This dagger is not good for me.

854
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,040
He was like Nope, you know what?
I am on my 6th month of

855
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,520
sobriety.
Y'all aren't about to get me no.

856
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,360
I just earned my 6th month
medallion.

857
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,160
That's right, I got my chip
right here.

858
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,040
Motherfucker, I'm not giving
this shit back up.

859
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:49,760
And the thing that got me was
when Pat and Fame comes in to

860
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,120
talk to Matt, he's like, Oh
yeah, my, my best broke his

861
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,280
customer and blah, blah, blah.
He's saying all this stuff.

862
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,560
He was like, you know, you want
to touch this dagger and blah,

863
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,360
blah, blah.
He walks out the door and says,

864
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,360
you in this room with this
dagger?

865
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,560
He was like, yeah, you deserve
it ever do to you for you to say

866
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,360
that he deserves it.
I you know what?

867
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,480
I really, I really when Matt got
out of that room and Pat and

868
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,440
Fame was sitting there looking,
he was like, yeah, I knew it

869
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,160
wasn't going to be long.
And he saw that Matt didn't

870
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,720
touch the dagger.
His whole demeanor changed.

871
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:27,280
I don't think we've ever seen
Pat and Fame running scared in

872
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,800
these two seasons.
That was so satisfying to watch.

873
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,800
It was, it would have been even
better if we would have seen

874
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,960
Matt kick his ass a little bit.
But that's OK.

875
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,880
We still got another we we still
got a couple, couple of other

876
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,320
seasons.
We can, it can.

877
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:51,400
It can come, right?
I think it.

878
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:56,320
Was like what Matt said, I've
had I've been locked up my fair

879
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,480
share this year.
And if there's one thing I've

880
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,960
learned is that there are more,
more than one way to skin a cat.

881
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,800
It was like, I'm I'm not the
one.

882
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,240
I'm not the two either.
Killed the car, then took off

883
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:13,760
running.
I was like, OK, we get to see we

884
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,920
get to see a little bit of, you
know, some smarts from that.

885
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,280
And then the rest of the episode
I was just cheering for him

886
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,800
because he runs out, he runs
into parent, they see each

887
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,760
other.
He finds out daddy Gwen is

888
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,200
there.
Parent finds out that Randy's

889
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,200
alive.
And it's like all the things

890
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,560
start falling into place.
They have the horn of a Lear,

891
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,720
which OK, before we before we
move on with this, damn it, I

892
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,680
drank all my drink.
I was going to say we got to

893
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,800
pull one out for Ingtar because
when I say Domenico went out

894
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,880
like AG.
Like AG for real.

895
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:53,480
He was like I'll hold them off
while y'all get the horn to ran

896
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,600
and he was fighting several of
them see what they were doing

897
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:58,760
with him.
That's what they should have

898
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,440
been doing with land because
they were coming at him all at

899
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,400
once.
And that's how they ended up

900
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,720
getting them because two of them
stabbed them in the back at the

901
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:11,000
same time.
But it's so funny because we ran

902
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,560
not when Matt runs into parent
and Loyal and they're with the

903
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,560
IE women.
And, you know, Matt is, you

904
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,080
know.
Hey, Parent, my old friend.

905
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,440
Yeah.
I'm so glad to see you.

906
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,600
Who are these people?
And Parent is like their

907
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,640
friends.
And then here come the soldiers

908
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,280
chasing after Matt.
He was like, I hope your friends

909
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,480
can fight.
They were like, hold my beer.

910
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,120
And then all of a sudden you see
Shump, shump, shump.

911
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,000
And Masane was already pissed
off because he was like first of

912
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,000
all, y'all got us here in the
1st place.

913
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,680
Second, my boy Antar just got
killed by y'all.

914
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,160
I'm about to come with y'all's
ass.

915
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,800
So you see all these people
fighting and it was so glorious.

916
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,600
And then of course, like I said,
they were, they were talking

917
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,200
about the horn and Matt's like,
oh, you need to open the box.

918
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,320
Well guess what?
I have a special dagger.

919
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,440
I have the key.
Have the kid.

920
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,600
Is that?
He Loyale is like, Oh yeah,

921
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,160
that'll work.
How did you know bro?

922
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,160
Right now this is.
Everything.

923
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,040
Before, OK, that's what I was
about to say before all of this.

924
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,120
When they're trying to plan
their escape, you know, intars

925
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,200
like we have the Horn of the
Lear, we need to get it to rant.

926
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,040
And Loyale says what No, Ingtar
said.

927
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,000
You know, the horn is the kid.
It summons all of the the war

928
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,400
heroes from.
Yeah, the heroes from The Age.

929
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,320
Of.
Life and and that's going to be

930
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,440
key to the dragon winning the
battle.

931
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:44,320
And Loyale was like, but we're
here now.

932
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,880
We're the heroes of now.
We are the heroes of another

933
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,880
generation's legend.
We need to start acting like it.

934
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,200
I was like, Loyale is the MVP of
this episode because he was

935
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,840
like, look, pull your head out
your ass, we got this, but we

936
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,800
have to act.
But of course, Antar dies.

937
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,760
I have expected to see to see
him again when after after a

938
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,760
Matt blew the horn next to Uno.
That would have been cool.

939
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,880
That would have been cool.
But OK, let's get to Matt

940
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,840
blowing this horn because like I
said, I've watched this episode

941
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,600
now four, maybe five times.
And every single time when it

942
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:32,120
gets to that point, I am bawling
like a fucking baby because I'm

943
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,520
like, Matt is getting his
moment.

944
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,440
He takes the horn.
He's trying to get the horn to

945
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,760
Ran and he's got the Sean Chan.
So Sean Chan soldiers in front

946
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,000
of him, and he can't get
further.

947
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,040
And he just looks and he blows
the horn.

948
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,720
And when he blows the horn,
everybody literally stops or

949
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:56,120
they're moving in very, very
slow motion.

950
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,960
And then you see the heroes,
their ghosts appear behind him.

951
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,480
And he says, I remember.
I remember when he said that,

952
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,160
that was the moment I lost it
because I was like, what do you

953
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,680
remember?
And what are you remembering?

954
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,720
And he was like, I was a hero of
the horn too.

955
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,680
And then the one soldier said, I
have fought by your times.

956
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,280
I have fought by your side many
times.

957
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,920
I was. 1000 times.
Yeah, I was.

958
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:28,240
So happy because that's when you
realize, like Anthony said,

959
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:32,560
Ishmael is the father of lies.
He only showed Matt what he

960
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,040
needed to show him in order to
make Matt doubt himself.

961
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:41,560
But the rest of that time Matt
was a hero and you have all

962
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:46,800
these other warriors behind him,
including Uno, who are all

963
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,080
heroes of the horn.
And they're like, come on, we

964
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,320
got this.
He turns around.

965
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,400
He gives the the the little
charge, whatever he says and

966
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,800
whatever language that is.
Then he starts working that boss

967
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,040
ass.
I'm sitting in my living room

968
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,960
like, I'm like losing it.
I'm losing my shit.

969
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,080
I am screaming.
I remember the first time I

970
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,480
watched this, my son actually
came downstairs.

971
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,880
He was like, are you OK?
I was like, yeah, I'm good.

972
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:20,400
I was so happy because we've had
two seasons of Matt being kind

973
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:26,080
of trounced on, downplay,
ignored, you know, kind of being

974
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:34,000
like the least respected, least
important, least loved member of

975
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,680
the Two Rivers crew.
And he's one of the, he's like

976
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:43,560
one of the powerful.
And it was just so happy to see

977
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,400
him have his moments.
Yeah, I, I have goosebumps now

978
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,440
talking about it.
It was just so satisfying.

979
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,480
I'm not going to butcher what he
says in the Old Tongue, but it

980
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,400
basically means it's time to
roll the dice because, you know,

981
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,520
in the book he's a gambler who
hardly ever loses.

982
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,280
Yeah.
And in the book, there's this

983
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,560
thing where he can feel the dice
rolling in his head when he's

984
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,800
about to do something and he's
to be when he's going to, yeah,

985
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,240
he's going to to kind of make
his luck happen.

986
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,240
So.
But yeah, that that's what he

987
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,840
says.
It's time to roll the dice.

988
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,520
Man, let me tell you, it was so
satisfying.

989
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:32,240
And I think, I think in that
moment, you really get to see

990
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:37,560
the full, the fullness of Matt's
personality and who he is and

991
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,800
who he's supposed to be.
You get to see all of that come

992
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,640
out like once he has that moment
where it clicks in his head

993
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,760
that, oh, I'm not just this
loser that just hangs around

994
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,480
with my, you know, better
friends.

995
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,040
I'm important too.
And I always has been.

996
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:58,680
It was just the most satisfying
part of this entire episode.

997
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,520
I mean, above everything else, I
think that was the moment that

998
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,240
is my favorite probably out of
both seasons.

999
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,360
All the way back to when Moraine
was telling the story of

1000
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,320
Minnethrin.
And you know what happened at

1001
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,560
Minnethrin?
That's where the Two Rivers is

1002
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:23,120
now that there's a reason why
the most powerful I, the most

1003
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,400
powerful channelers of this age
are all from there.

1004
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,160
Someone that's specialist parent
being a wolf brother is there

1005
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,640
and you have Matt.
And you know, if I remember

1006
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:41,000
correctly, Matt is the one who
has the most mineterine blood in

1007
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:46,000
him.
OK, He's special, OK.

1008
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:51,280
You can see his whole demeanor
change, his posture change, you

1009
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,840
see the air of confidence just
come over him.

1010
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,160
It is so different and I'm going
to give this actor a lot of

1011
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:01,480
credit to be able to make that
physical change.

1012
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:07,120
As well, him going from that
kind of feeling like a loser to

1013
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,880
the confident person.
And then for us to see him lose

1014
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,080
it again after he goes to the
tower, he sees, you know, Ran

1015
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:23,240
being being shielded and Ishmael
being there, you know, kind of

1016
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,960
taunting him or whatever,
whatever.

1017
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,280
Matt sees them, he sees an
opportunity.

1018
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:35,320
He throws the spear that he has
made with the dagger at Ishmael.

1019
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,760
But of course, Ishmael is an
illusion.

1020
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,880
We find this out because the
spear goes straight through him

1021
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,920
and into Ran.
And hence here is the so-called

1022
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,360
vision of Matt killing Rand with
the dagger, but not quite in the

1023
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,640
way that men saw it.
And you just kind of see Matt

1024
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,080
deflated because he's like, oh
shit, I did this.

1025
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,160
Oh my God.
Oh brother, I'm so sorry.

1026
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:00,400
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.

1027
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,320
But yeah, Matt's whole
transformation in this in this

1028
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:15,080
entire episode, like was so
satisfying to watch.

1029
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:22,600
But not not even just that, just
the way that you see all of our

1030
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,080
Two Rivers people kind of
getting their glow up in this

1031
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:33,400
episode because you see Ran kind
of embracing a little bit more

1032
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:39,080
who he is because at this point
he's like, OK, look on the

1033
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,800
Dragon Reborn.
I have to go claim my, you know,

1034
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:47,800
claim myself and then you see
it, Gwaine and what she's going

1035
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,640
through and this pisses him off.
He has no, you know, he has no

1036
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,040
qualms about using the one
power.

1037
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,560
At that point he's like, OK,
yeah, I'm about to kill y'all

1038
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,080
and go figure out how to save
her.

1039
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,720
Of course it Gwaine is having
her own kind of revelation up

1040
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,080
here on the tower because she's
there's a the money.

1041
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,560
She's there supposed to be like
I said, she's supposed to be

1042
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,320
helping with the battle.
She's already hesitant and

1043
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,040
they're already peeping.
They're like, Rena, you can't

1044
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,600
control your Damani because she
tells her she you know, she kind

1045
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,920
of looks defiant at first.
Then of course she sees the

1046
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:30,920
white cloaks down in the town.
She attacks them and again he'll

1047
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,520
go Rena with the one sentence.
You could have kept this shit.

1048
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,800
Good girl, good girl, like you
talking to a dog.

1049
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,200
I was like, kill her.
Just kill her already.

1050
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:46,800
But I didn't have to wait too
long, because Iguane stops

1051
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,120
attacking.
She turns around, she spits her

1052
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,600
little gag out in front of
everybody.

1053
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,080
So everybody knows that Rena
doesn't have control of her

1054
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,520
Damani.
So of course she's about to make

1055
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,240
an example of Iguane.
Iguane is sitting there on her

1056
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,640
knees with her hands out and
Rena is about to take her tongue

1057
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:11,760
and they are attacked with
stones and arrows and there's an

1058
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:16,600
explosion.
And Iguane and Rena are the only

1059
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,120
two people who survived the
explosion of course.

1060
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:24,560
But Iguane comes to 1st and when
she when she gets out of the

1061
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,400
rubble she comes across the
Damani who dies.

1062
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:33,360
And of course, when they die,
their their Adam releases from

1063
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,480
their body.
Then you see Rena get up and

1064
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,600
she's looking around, She's
seeing the destruction.

1065
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,240
Then she's looking at E Gwaine.
And she was like, you were part

1066
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,320
of this.
Like she was really blaming E

1067
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,320
Gwaine for them being attacked
in the tower.

1068
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,560
She was like, this was coming
from the town.

1069
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,280
You knew about this.
This is your fault.

1070
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,320
E Gwaine is just like, yeah, OK,
whatever.

1071
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,800
She gets ready to almost like
hit Rena.

1072
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:10,880
I think no.
Rena uses her her cuff to kind

1073
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,680
of, you know, bring Inguane down
to her knees.

1074
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,600
And Inguane, I don't know how
she didn't pay attention to this

1075
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:23,120
because I think I would have
noticed if somebody who didn't

1076
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,800
usually wear arm cuff had a arm
cuff all of a sudden, because

1077
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,080
even the way Inguane was holding
herself, she was hiding that

1078
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,800
right side.
But you can still kind of see

1079
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,600
the top part of the cuff.
But anyway, when Renna does

1080
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,120
that, she puts the cuff, she
puts the A Dom on Renna.

1081
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,760
And Renna is like, stupidy
Gwaine.

1082
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,320
The collars only work on women
who can channel.

1083
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,000
And Iguana is like, yeah, I
know.

1084
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,480
And then all of a sudden they
see the A Dom take place, you

1085
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,880
know, take form.
And Iguana say, yeah, I had to

1086
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,440
sit here and try to figure out
why we were linked.

1087
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,920
And I thought it was something
like the water bomb.

1088
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:08,280
But no, She said, you sold them.
You guys can channel too.

1089
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,480
It's just that you are so weak
in the power that the other

1090
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,840
Damani didn't pick it up.
And Renna's like, no, they can't

1091
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,000
be.
And she was like, yeah, you and

1092
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,320
I are the same.
And you see it because Iguayne

1093
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:27,360
is able to use the cuff to put
Renna on the wall and choke her,

1094
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,720
kind of similar to the way she
did her.

1095
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,880
But she was like, but you're
still my Damani.

1096
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,360
You know, you still have to do
what I say.

1097
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:40,040
Iguan was like, OK, and I'm
yours.

1098
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,440
You're mine.
If this is how we got to end it,

1099
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,960
this is how we got to end it.
Because she's like, you can't

1100
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,400
hurt me without hurting
yourself.

1101
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:52,840
And Iguan is literally sitting
there like OK but I would I

1102
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,520
would rather die than continue
to be your slave.

1103
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,000
Yeah, right.
Yeah, Yeah.

1104
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:04,760
It was a battle wheels.
And let me tell you, Rena lost

1105
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:05,520
because.
She.

1106
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:10,960
She disengaged her cuff the Adam
falls off of Iguane and she was

1107
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,560
like, OK, so use it.
She's like, let me go.

1108
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,440
And Iguane just sitting there
looking at her.

1109
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,160
I was like, Iguane, if you let
her down, if you let her down,

1110
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,200
like I know it's wrong for us to
wish for death, but these are

1111
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,320
fictional characters so I don't
feel bad about it.

1112
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:31,000
I was like die bitch, die.
This is why people don't want to

1113
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,120
walk in people's shoes, because
they can't handle it.

1114
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,840
No.
And and.

1115
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,360
You couldn't handle it for 2
minutes.

1116
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,960
For two, you've been doing that
crap to E Gwen for how long?

1117
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,840
Right.
And you can handle it.

1118
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,920
Probably weeks at this point.
And you can handle it for 2

1119
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,320
minutes.
No, just like the other chick,

1120
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,120
wouldn't that wouldn't I need?
Oh, she was she was done with

1121
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,880
soon as I need put it on.
Oh, take it off, take it off.

1122
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:01,760
It was it was like Gollum.
It was like Gollum when they had

1123
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,080
wrapped Gollum up in the in the
room.

1124
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,440
But she literally she she lets
Rena hang.

1125
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:18,720
Rena dies and then of course
her, you know, all of that comes

1126
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,560
off the cuff, comes off.
E Gwen turns around.

1127
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,800
She sinks to her knees.
And then all of a sudden you

1128
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,640
hear E Gwen, E Gwen.
And she's like, I know, I hear

1129
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,840
this voice, I know I'm going to
see him.

1130
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,280
But she probably was thinking it
was going to be a dream again.

1131
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:33,880
She turns around and there's
Ran.

1132
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:34,800
Yeah.
OK.

1133
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,600
Before, before we move forward,
before we move forward, quick

1134
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,960
notes.
So they simplified something

1135
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:48,720
from the book that that in
channelling you have you're born

1136
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,480
to be like a channeler or you
can learn to channel And I I

1137
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,200
don't want to confuse y'all too
much, but that's something that

1138
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,040
is a thing in the book and
that's what E Gwen figures out.

1139
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,680
She figures out that the Sudams,
they can't necessarily channel,

1140
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:09,760
but they're women who can learn
to channel and and they

1141
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,840
simplified it by just saying
that they're just really weak.

1142
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,600
And I do like that change
because it it does make it a bit

1143
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,359
more simple and not as
complicated.

1144
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,920
It's kind of like the difference
between being a a wizard and a a

1145
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,200
a squib or something.
Similar, yeah.

1146
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,880
Like, because you can't.
You can't achieve squibs to be

1147
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:29,880
Wizards.
Right.

1148
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,960
But imagine if you could teach
them to do and that's that's

1149
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:39,120
what school dogs are you.
You don't see them, but like

1150
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,760
they don't go with the ability
to channel, but they have the

1151
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,920
they have the ability to learn
how to channel.

1152
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,880
And they can see the weaves.
And that's how that's how Iguane

1153
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,640
figured it out, because she was
like, yeah, I realize you can

1154
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,479
see the weaves.
Right, right.

1155
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,000
So, and there was and there was
probably through practice being

1156
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,120
able to see the weaves.
Yeah, but either way it goes,

1157
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,160
Rena is dead.
I'm so glad because I was like,

1158
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,880
that bitch needs.
She needs it.

1159
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,800
Yeah.
I was ready.

1160
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,479
For this new Wayne thought that
that ran, I was fully expecting

1161
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,560
him to say, no, I'm real, I'm
actually here.

1162
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,800
But I guess he didn't have to
say.

1163
01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:23,840
Yeah, so, but I mean, and and
you know, he does apologize to

1164
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,120
her.
And he was like, look, I know I

1165
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,680
should have told you, but I
thought it was better this way.

1166
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,040
And she's just still looking at
him like he's alive.

1167
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,240
He's he's right in front of me.
They get ready to leave and this

1168
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,399
is when they're confronted by
Ishmael.

1169
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,800
Of course, she tries to use the
one power against him, but he

1170
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,880
kind of knocks her out.
He knocks ran to the to his

1171
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,279
knees.
And then, like I said, the

1172
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:52,040
demonic out on the ocean.
They are they're channeling to

1173
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,440
shield him.
So there's this big

1174
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:57,600
confrontation.
And then again, Matt comes up,

1175
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,360
sees them talking, throws the
spear.

1176
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,640
He ends up hitting Ran.
So he's over there with Ran and

1177
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,720
Ishmael is about to I I don't
know what he's about to do, send

1178
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,560
up a signal so that they can
gentle Rand or whatever.

1179
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,440
And he gets ready to walk
towards them and he he throws

1180
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:18,160
like some power and it's
shielded.

1181
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:19,480
He was like, how did you do
this?

1182
01:10:19,480 --> 01:10:22,480
Because he was thinking Rand did
it and he was like, how did you

1183
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,040
do that?
And then here comes the Gwen.

1184
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,160
Gwen is pissed.
I was like, Oh, he got to get

1185
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,480
the full fledge of her power.
And when I say I was so

1186
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:32,960
surprised because I know
Anthony, you kind of gave us a

1187
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,640
little bit of a, not necessarily
a spoiler a couple of episodes

1188
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,960
ago, but you did say that E Gwen
ends up being one of the people

1189
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,600
who can kind of hold her own
with the Forsaken.

1190
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:50,480
And she demonstrates this very
much on this particular scene

1191
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:54,200
because she's holding up a
shield and Ishmael is throwing

1192
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,000
everything he can at it and the
shield is holding.

1193
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,360
Yeah, well, they they keep
telling us over and over again.

1194
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:06,560
Egwane, Naive and Elaine are the
three most powerful channelers

1195
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:11,720
we've seen in 1000 years I.
Mean well, they don't save that

1196
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,520
the whole 1000.
Years, but except for with.

1197
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,240
Naive, but yeah.
Like Elaine is the most is the

1198
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,320
strongest novice they've had in
the top right.

1199
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,600
Naive and Egwane are two of the
strongest channels they've ever

1200
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,440
seen, and Naive is probably the
strongest for. 1000 years.

1201
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:33,360
So they're clearly telling us
that Elaine and even Iguain are

1202
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:36,680
extremely powerful.
They just don't know how to

1203
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,640
they, they just don't really
know anything yet.

1204
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:47,760
But thanks to Iguain's training
as a Damani, she knows some

1205
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,320
stuff now.
She has learned some things and

1206
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,280
and she threw that shield up
pretty freaking quickly.

1207
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,800
You see when she.
Whipped her dress back.

1208
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:58,920
She stood in front of me.
She was.

1209
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,080
Like yes, I was like, OK, you
done pissed her off now.

1210
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,920
I mean, and there was like
there's these moments where you

1211
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,480
see it with all of them.
Like I said with Rand, it was

1212
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:13,800
when he saw a Gwen walking and
she had the she had the ball gag

1213
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,360
in her mouth.
You could see his face change

1214
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:20,560
like, oh, you've pissed me off
pairing when he saw Hopper die,

1215
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,200
that was his moment.
That was his oh, you didn't piss

1216
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,040
me off.
And then like Masane, when, you

1217
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,760
know, when you see Ingtar die,
he's like, oh, OK, yeah, I'm

1218
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,840
about to whoop some ass.
The IU women, they didn't need a

1219
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,240
they didn't need a pissed off.
They're just like, oh, we just

1220
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,080
ready to fight.
They're like the Hulk.

1221
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:39,960
They walk around pissed off.
Right.

1222
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:44,080
They're like, oh fight, yes,
let's go Matt.

1223
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:51,600
I think his moment came when Pat
and fame underestimated him.

1224
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,480
You sit here teasing him with
this dagger and you're like,

1225
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,800
yeah, you're going to fail and
you're going to do this mess.

1226
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:01,400
Like, I got something for you.
You see it with all of them, you

1227
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,400
know, like we said early in the
episode, and I need you see it

1228
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,640
with, with the, with the girl
because she's just like, OK,

1229
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,040
look, I'm so tired of y'all.
I'm so tired of what y'all done

1230
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:12,960
to my friends.
I'm, I'm, I'm tired of all of

1231
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,840
this.
I'm just, I give me my people so

1232
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:19,800
I can go home, you know?
But you see Egg Wayne with the

1233
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,120
shield, and then she starts
getting weak, she starts getting

1234
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,640
overpowered.
She turns around, she tells Ran.

1235
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,560
She's like, I'm sorry.
And as soon as the shield is

1236
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,280
about to go down, here comes
pairing with Uno's shield

1237
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,960
because of course, Uno jumps
into the battle at the at the

1238
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,200
bottom when parent is trying to
work his way to the tower, he

1239
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,360
looks at parent.
He was like, don't be surprised

1240
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,960
that I'm a hero of the horn and
he gives parent his shield.

1241
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,360
And I was really surprised about
that because I know that they

1242
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,040
are.
I know that they are are there,

1243
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,720
they materialize and they can
actually fight.

1244
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,560
But for him to be able to give
his shield to parent and parent

1245
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,320
actually be able to use it, I
was kind of surprised at that.

1246
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:05,320
I was like, oh, that's a very
useful skill to be able to do.

1247
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,840
But then here, you know, like I
said, here comes parent and Gwen

1248
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,640
is like parent, hey, I'm here
and Rand is sitting here looking

1249
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,600
like, oh, there's a Gwen,
there's parent.

1250
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,840
I got mad like, and then he's
like 19 is coming too.

1251
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,400
Then here comes 19 and Elaine.
And I was just like, oh, the

1252
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,200
band's back together again.
And, and Shamel is about to die.

1253
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:30,240
He he really is about to die.
And in the midst of all this,

1254
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:36,840
Elaine, she heals Rand.
Speaking of which, that wound

1255
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:44,200
looked like what do you call The
thing is Star Wars that ate that

1256
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:49,360
that that swallowed from Yes,
yes, that's yes.

1257
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,280
That's what Rand's wound looked.
It looked like the Sarlacc or it

1258
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,760
looked like the the little sand
worms from Doom.

1259
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,080
It looked gross.
That wound looked like it had

1260
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,360
teeth.
It was nasty.

1261
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:09,280
It was nasty.
But Elaine, she she mends it and

1262
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:13,000
again, it's I hate to say it, I
really hate to say it.

1263
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,640
It was just kind of like
everybody was doing their part

1264
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:23,120
and I leave was just there.
It just OK, so whatever they

1265
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:27,040
what they did for Matt in this
episode, for this season, you

1266
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,640
know, they they have his his
come up moment.

1267
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:35,280
I need that to happen for not
even next season because stop

1268
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,960
telling us she's the most
powerful Chandler in the last

1269
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,160
1000 years if y'all are not
going to give us anything.

1270
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:47,920
It might, like I say, it might
be a minute because she's just

1271
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,520
too.
They've hyped her up to where

1272
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,320
she's just too powerful.
I mean people literally believe

1273
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,200
that she brought land back from
the dead.

1274
01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:00,760
Like he was on death's door.
He was on death's door.

1275
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,680
And she brought his ass back to
life.

1276
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,920
He did.
So I'm one of those people.

1277
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,720
They, they, they have to, they
have to dial her back, you know,

1278
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,200
they put a cap on her until it's
time.

1279
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,440
Then they'll they'll they'll pop
it open.

1280
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,880
Yeah, I guess.
But while they're doing all this

1281
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,040
stuff on the tower, of course,
like we said, Moraine is down on

1282
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,080
the beach with land.
They're fighting the well, he's

1283
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:29,200
fighting the soldiers.
She was disabling, or let's be

1284
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:34,920
honest, she was killing the
demonic and Lady Surath and all

1285
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,280
of them that was on the boats.
And then she realizes, you know,

1286
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,760
the whole prophecy about the the
dragon will claim herself.

1287
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:48,800
What in banners of fire above,
from above the wall above the

1288
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,960
watchers.
And it's like she has a light

1289
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:57,400
bulb moment while she's there.
She was like, oh, this is what

1290
01:16:57,480 --> 01:17:01,040
I'm supposed to do.
And she, you know, she channels,

1291
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,240
she puts that fire going towards
the tower and then the fire that

1292
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:09,880
she ignite it to, the boats also
join that fire and it becomes

1293
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,280
this big dragon and it circles
the tower and it lays over Rand.

1294
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,360
And I was like, OK, this is kind
of corny, but it's kind of cool

1295
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:21,200
as well.
I said lift the dragon up till

1296
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:22,440
here.
I'll make a dragon.

1297
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,240
It's like, like like she's
making making like a shadow

1298
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,880
dragon.
Like, all right, I'm here.

1299
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:32,600
I'm here.
But I love the fact that, OK,

1300
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,880
Rand, yes, he he's the he's the
Dragon reborn.

1301
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,680
He's on top of the tower.
Everybody in farm is cheering

1302
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,400
because here's the omen right
here.

1303
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:47,280
The the Dragon Reborn is here.
Yay, things will, I don't know,

1304
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,160
get fixed.
He'll break the I, I at this

1305
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,120
point, I don't know, but
everybody's happy at this point.

1306
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,240
But I love the fact that his
friends are there on the tower

1307
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,760
with him.
But it also makes me wonder

1308
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:03,560
because if you think about what
has been said about Ishmael and

1309
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,600
land, fear and lose and all of
them, like they were really

1310
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,920
close friends too.
And then they ended up turning

1311
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,160
to the dark.
And I know that that's what they

1312
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,120
were trying to do with Rand and
his friends.

1313
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,400
They were trying to turn
everybody else to the dark in

1314
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,400
order to get Rand to turn to the
dark.

1315
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,960
None of them took the bait.
Like none of them.

1316
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,640
Yeah, they all did some things.
They killed.

1317
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,680
And I will say this too.
I'm paren made me.

1318
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,240
I don't know if I should say
laugh when I'm when I'm

1319
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,680
describing him killing someone,
but the fact that he double

1320
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:42,440
tapped, he was so pissed off
that that dude killed Hopper.

1321
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,360
He struck him not once, but
twice.

1322
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,760
He struck him in the chest when
he was standing up.

1323
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,640
And then old dude fell on the
ground and he struck him again.

1324
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,960
Like, I just want to make sure
you understand how mad I am that

1325
01:18:53,960 --> 01:19:01,640
you killed my my wolf.
But Rand is the dragon.

1326
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:09,120
His friends are there.
Nobody turned to the dark, and

1327
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,800
then it looks like Landfair
might have some problems on her

1328
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,720
hands now.
Oh my God I would.

1329
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,320
That freaked me out.
Where were you about to say,

1330
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,120
Anthony?
I was going to say Landfair was

1331
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,680
trying to get her buddy to take
the seals and dump them in the

1332
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:31,440
ocean.
Yes, Master Dolman, I was like,

1333
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,640
oh, here you are, just like, how
are you over here?

1334
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,920
But I forgot.
I was like, OK, well he would be

1335
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,800
on this side of town, but he was
like, Lady Celine, you are a

1336
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,240
long way from Karen.
What you doing here?

1337
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,040
But he's like, why?
Why You still here?

1338
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,520
Our battle is going on, right?
This is not a place for a lady

1339
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,720
like you.
She's like, oh, I'm good.

1340
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,960
Yeah, right.
But when?

1341
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,880
You see how she been
manipulating things behind

1342
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,480
scenes?
Yeah, because they're like, how

1343
01:19:59,480 --> 01:20:03,040
did you get the horn?
Oh, a nice lady from Karen gave

1344
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:08,080
us the horn up to skip the horn.
I wonder who helped him get the

1345
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,640
horn?
Yep.

1346
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,920
She's walking around.
Yeah, and it's so it's crazy

1347
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:21,280
because I I look, I forgot to
mention when we were talking

1348
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,320
about the Tower and Rand and all
them.

1349
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:28,240
Oh yeah, Ishmael is dead.
Rand definitely did kill him and

1350
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:29,680
he.
He appears to be dead.

1351
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,040
He appears to be dead.
You, don't you?

1352
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:36,800
You think he's still 'cause I, I
felt like the way that they

1353
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,800
were, the way that they played
that scene with him, you know,

1354
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,400
saying, oh, it's beautiful.
And, and Ram was like, what do

1355
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:45,880
you see?
He said nothing.

1356
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:50,360
And then he just kind of dusted
away like, you know, Thanos

1357
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,920
snapped him.
I was like, OK, maybe he's

1358
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,960
really dead, dead now.
But I, I mean, I guess I kind of

1359
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,920
feel like that will also be too
easy for him.

1360
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,280
That's too easy.
Yeah, so he has to be dead,

1361
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:05,000
dead, dead.
That's.

1362
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,720
What?
Yeah, well, how how I I would

1363
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,000
just say I would think, and this
is not, this doesn't have

1364
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,520
anything to do with the the
books in the show.

1365
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,960
Patting the fame is like, how
are we going to deal with land

1366
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,920
fear?
The Dark One gave her eternal

1367
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,480
life, right?
Why wouldn't he do the same

1368
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:28,200
thing to Shameo if he's his
number one Lieutenant?

1369
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,480
I'm, I'm just, I'm just asking a
question.

1370
01:21:33,480 --> 01:21:34,080
Why?
Why would?

1371
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,640
He why would?
He give land fear, why would he

1372
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,360
make her able to come back from
the dead but not Shamir?

1373
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,600
Maybe because he knows that
Ishamael doesn't want to come

1374
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,000
back.
If they've done this, if they've

1375
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:54,480
done this infinite number of
times, he keeps coming back and

1376
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:57,160
he keeps saying he said it
several times during the

1377
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,320
episode.
Well, if I miss this one, I get

1378
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,320
another chance.
Yeah.

1379
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:09,640
Yeah, this just a shout out to
the writers for kind of for, for

1380
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:13,520
making the show their own,
because at the end of the Eye of

1381
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,400
the World, you guys never asked
me what what was the eye of the

1382
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,360
world, right?
Because in the show, the eye of

1383
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,360
the world was just the seal,
right?

1384
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:27,720
The eye of the world in the book
was actually a pool of a

1385
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:34,760
repository of untainted Sidin or
Sidar whatever the man can

1386
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,200
channel.
Oh OK it was a pool of power of

1387
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,120
1 powerful man that was saved
that was not tainted.

1388
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:48,560
Also that was there was the horn
of the Lear and also the dragon

1389
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,440
banner that Lewis Theron used to
go around with a big banner that

1390
01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:56,680
had the dragon on it.
OK so the prophecy was that the

1391
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:02,280
banner will be flown and formed
and the dragon would declare

1392
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,480
himself.
So in the book, he has a fight

1393
01:23:05,480 --> 01:23:13,000
with Ishamiya or Baltimore,
whatever his name was, and they

1394
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,400
have a physical and a
metaphysical confrontation where

1395
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:23,080
the witnesses who were the the
people of farm, the Sean Chan

1396
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:28,000
and the White cooks see him in
the sky.

1397
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,600
See the two of them, the light
in the dark, fighting in the

1398
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:41,040
literal sky above fall and and
Uno takes the banner, strings it

1399
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,880
up and flies the banner.
And so it was like, Oh my God,

1400
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,960
it's the Dragon Reborn.
Gotcha.

1401
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,560
So that that that is how it
happens in the book.

1402
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:56,320
So it's interesting that they
did it this way because we

1403
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,280
didn't get the banner being
flown.

1404
01:24:00,440 --> 01:24:03,600
You know, we didn't get the pool
of sardine or whatever.

1405
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,040
It's a little different.
And we didn't get the battle in

1406
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,640
the sky, which, you know, I can
tell you a lot of our book fans

1407
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,320
were hoping to see.
But the effects with that would

1408
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:15,960
just be too crazy.
And.

1409
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,240
Then it wouldn't really make any
sense either.

1410
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:25,600
Now, I would have expected more
of a battle between him and

1411
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,040
Ishmael, but maybe we'll get it
later.

1412
01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:36,400
And and I can see it seems that
the girls have gotten a lot more

1413
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,840
moments than Rand.
I mean, Rand had.

1414
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,280
This was like the first time we
saw Rand do something, you know,

1415
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,320
he killed.
That was the first time other

1416
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,400
than just, you know.
Flashbacks of him.

1417
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,480
Using flashbacks of him using a
challenge.

1418
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,280
So, you know, we call them hero
moments.

1419
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,760
We didn't really see his hero
moments until we saw the

1420
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,280
flashbacks here.
He got a hero moment that we got

1421
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:06,160
to solve, but then he really
doesn't save himself.

1422
01:25:06,440 --> 01:25:09,680
He doesn't save Wayne.
They basically save him.

1423
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,040
They all save him.
Yeah, I noticed that.

1424
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,960
They save him.
So I don't know.

1425
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,920
And I I can see why some people
who are fans of the book were

1426
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,960
having an issue with it, because
the battle that he has with

1427
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:27,840
Ishmael in the book is supposed
to be an epic confrontation and.

1428
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,480
Maybe we'll get that in the
third season.

1429
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:35,280
You know, first season Ishmael
kind of, you know, took Rand

1430
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,000
down.
And then this one Rand kind of

1431
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,120
took him down.
So maybe, maybe they were just

1432
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,280
like, OK, let's just level the
playing field before.

1433
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,240
But that's how.
But that's how he declares sense

1434
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,800
of dragon.
They see this epic battle

1435
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,320
between the light and the dark
and the sky, and he wins.

1436
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:51,920
And then they see the dragon
banner.

1437
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:57,840
Well, no, here he actually
doesn't really have a battle

1438
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,640
with Ishmael.
Gwaine does, right?

1439
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:08,600
And parent and Moraine flies a
fire dragon around the building,

1440
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,960
and I guess they all think, oh,
he's a no.

1441
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,320
I don't know.
It doesn't.

1442
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,000
It doesn't quite feel right.
OK.

1443
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:19,120
But I guess we'll go with it
into Season 3.

1444
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,680
Well you like you're liking
season 3 so.

1445
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:26,520
Far I know they they made-up for
it for the most part, but it

1446
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:31,000
watching this episode again it
called as many good moments as

1447
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,120
it had it.
It reminded me of why there was

1448
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,960
so much of the show I didn't
like.

1449
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:38,840
OK.
Yeah, there.

1450
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,200
There was so much of the show I
didn't like, and a lot of it had

1451
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:46,320
to do with like Mike picks up on
is all the stuff we ran is just

1452
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,640
is just bothersome.
The character is bothersome.

1453
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:53,200
The things he does or doesn't do
is just is irritating.

1454
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,080
You know, not an Eve.
Everything with her is

1455
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,680
irritating.
The change they made in Matt is

1456
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,440
irritating.
And it's almost as if they tried

1457
01:27:03,440 --> 01:27:06,960
to fix some of those things in
this last episode.

1458
01:27:07,480 --> 01:27:09,800
They tried to fix it all at one
time.

1459
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,160
Yeah.
Yeah.

1460
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,520
I don't know, I don't know if
y'all, I don't know if Mike

1461
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,720
feels that way, but it's it's
like a lot of the characters

1462
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,080
that we didn't like and had
issues with.

1463
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,320
They tried to make us like him
in the last episode.

1464
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,600
Except except Nan Eve.
Yeah, he's the only one.

1465
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,560
Yeah.
I mean, they made a good job of

1466
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,760
making Rand seem strong.
They made they finally gave Matt

1467
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,680
a purpose.
And it's like, but growing Nanny

1468
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,320
Eve is in the heat of it.
She can't do anything about it.

1469
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,600
But none of that.
OK, tell tell us about about the

1470
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:48,760
little creepy girl who put who
put land fear in a web and

1471
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:53,440
scared shit out of her.
Right, 'cause land fear she was,

1472
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:55,760
she was trying to play that hard
role.

1473
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,360
But who is this?
Yeah, who is this?

1474
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,360
This this creepy girl at the
end.

1475
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:07,520
Morganian, one of the Forsaken
the Spider.

1476
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:12,080
She, yeah, she seemed like she
going to be a problem for

1477
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:16,200
Landfair or she going to be a
problem for everybody.

1478
01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:20,600
Everybody.
Remember, everybody had all of

1479
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:24,720
the Isodive who became Forsaken
had their reasons for turning to

1480
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,000
the Dark End, some of them not
so good.

1481
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,880
Yeah, yeah.
Some of them not so good.

1482
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:36,400
'Cause the way Landfair looked
when she walked into Ishimel's

1483
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:40,960
room and she looked and saw the,
I guess that those were the

1484
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:46,440
prisons, when she saw them
broken, her face was like, oh

1485
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:48,880
shit.
And then when she realized oh,

1486
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,960
girl was sitting in the chair,
it's almost like she kind of

1487
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:57,240
tried to collect herself and,
and, and be, you know, the, the

1488
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:03,400
fearless Landfair.
But no, she, that girl made

1489
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:10,120
Landfill feel feel the last part
of her name a lot because she

1490
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:14,200
was like, yeah, Ishmael knew you
were going to betray him.

1491
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:18,280
So he let us out early and she
was like, where the rest of the

1492
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,640
Fort taken?
I don't know.

1493
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:25,680
I was just like, oh, this is not
good, 'cause not only did he let

1494
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:29,680
them out, we don't know where
they are.

1495
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:36,840
They could be doing.
Yeah, they, yeah, yeah, they're,

1496
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:38,840
they're going to be wreaking
havoc all over the place.

1497
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:39,400
That's.
What?

1498
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,760
That's what.
But you know, Lanfear Moraine

1499
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,560
did kind of hint at it earlier
because he was like, well, why

1500
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:51,040
did he let Lanfear out Well, and
not the others?

1501
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,560
Because they're all dangerous
and they fought amongst each

1502
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,680
other more than they fought
loose therein.

1503
01:29:57,480 --> 01:30:01,760
Because they were always vying
for power.

1504
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,000
Power in in position.
Yeah.

1505
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,480
And the other thing she
mentioned was she said

1506
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:10,560
everything that she could find
out basically tells her that

1507
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:15,360
Lewis, Theron, Lanfair and
Ishmael were all best friends.

1508
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:19,200
Like, they were inseparable.
And Lamb was like, just like

1509
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:25,320
these five kids.
And Maria was like, Yep, Yep,

1510
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,280
Yep.
I was like, OK.

1511
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,640
He's just like her, like just
playing with these spider webs

1512
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,400
and just saying softly, softly
through the shadows.

1513
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:36,640
That's what you used to say
about me.

1514
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,880
I was like, oh, God, uh huh.
Snacking out.

1515
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,040
No, I was expecting her to,
like, start crawling through my

1516
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:43,840
calling, through my phone when I
was watching it at work.

1517
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,720
I was like, Nah, no.
The the thing about Mageddian is

1518
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:52,040
she's probably the weakest of
the Forsaken, but she might be

1519
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,880
the most dangerous.
'Cause that bitch is scary.

1520
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:58,520
No, no.
What?

1521
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,600
What was it?
She said She is.

1522
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:06,360
From the shadows I was like just
the voice alone.

1523
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:12,080
I will say she is the most
dangerous of the Forsaken, the

1524
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:17,920
weakest, but the most dangerous.
And she told Lynn she was like,

1525
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:22,600
leave him alone, he's ours now.
I was like, oh, And then what

1526
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:23,520
was it?
Landfill said.

1527
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,520
She was like, light be with you,
Rand.

1528
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:30,040
Yeah, he looks like he might.
He might need it because.

1529
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,600
I don't know where, I don't know
what their motivation is going

1530
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:41,360
to be in the in the in the show,
but we know that which one call

1531
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,240
it's motivation.
It's Shammel.

1532
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,720
He wants to break the wheel
because she wants to be in the

1533
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:50,080
suffering.
I think the only reason why the

1534
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,600
others want Rand is because
they're trying to gain favor

1535
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,240
with the Dark One.
They don't.

1536
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,400
They don't care about breaking
the wheel.

1537
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,360
They just want.
They just want the number one

1538
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:04,360
position and whoever can deliver
Rand will give the number one

1539
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:05,240
position.
OK.

1540
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,840
So they they might think if it's
similar to the book, that that

1541
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,400
motivation is kind of different.
OK.

1542
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:22,520
So, OK, so just to be clear, the
dark one, his goal is to break

1543
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:27,640
the wheel, meaning that
everything that they've been

1544
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:31,440
cycling over the last several
thousand years, he wants it to

1545
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:32,520
stop.
He wants.

1546
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,120
No, the the Dark One wants to be
free of his prison.

1547
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:40,520
Oh, OK, OK, so who?
It's somebody.

1548
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,600
In Chambe OK, he wants to break
the wheel 'cause he's tired of

1549
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:45,280
doing the same thing over and
over again.

1550
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,840
But the Dark One is trying to
get out of his prison.

1551
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:55,200
OK, And so the the dragon.
Well, I, I, I guess get out of

1552
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:59,040
prison so he can he can, I
guess.

1553
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,000
Yeah.
He he also want he wants to

1554
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:02,520
break the wheel before a
different reason.

1555
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,160
OK.
The Dark one wants to destroy

1556
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,560
the wheel for the the Dark one
is chaos.

1557
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:12,120
The wheel is order.
Oh, OK, that's that's the very

1558
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:16,680
Yeah, yes, yes.
And so the Dragon Reborn is

1559
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,720
basically he's the he's the
tipping scale.

1560
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:22,840
He can go this way or he can go
that way, Yeah, but it just all

1561
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:27,560
depends on the character of
whoever the dragon is in

1562
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,880
whatever particular lifetime
that he that he comes around.

1563
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:37,240
OK, OK, so either.
Generally speaking, yes.

1564
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:44,120
So the way that this is going,
either Rand will keep to the

1565
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:51,440
light, hopefully with the help
of his friends, or he'll go to

1566
01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:58,440
the Dark and either become
enemies with his friends or his

1567
01:33:58,440 --> 01:34:00,120
friends will also go to the
dark.

1568
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:01,960
Those are kind of like the
options.

1569
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:09,480
Stir.
I I'm just trying to figure out

1570
01:34:09,480 --> 01:34:14,480
because obviously one of the
themes in the show is about

1571
01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:20,120
friendship because, you know,
we, we hear them talk about it

1572
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,920
with Lamphere, Ishmael and, and
the dark one.

1573
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,200
And you kind of even see what
this one like.

1574
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,600
OK, so Lamphere and Ishmael,
they looked like they were

1575
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:33,200
close.
They had a, a very strong

1576
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:36,040
connection.
And yet she still betrayed him

1577
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,960
for Rand or for Lose, however
you want to look at it.

1578
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:44,840
So it's kind of like, OK, so
what's going to happen with

1579
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:46,560
these friends?
Are they all going to stick

1580
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,760
together?
Will they be?

1581
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,200
Will there be things that end up
dividing them?

1582
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:57,760
And it's just kind of
interesting to kind of think of

1583
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:01,720
where this might go.
And again, you know, with all of

1584
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:05,000
the stuff that goes on in the
Wheel of Time, there's still a

1585
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,600
lot for me to learn.
So I don't know all the

1586
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:08,920
insurance and outs and how the
school.

1587
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:12,640
I will say all of the above and
none of the above, OK?

1588
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,880
Great.
That that's how all that works

1589
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:23,720
out, All of the above and then
of the above, yeah.

1590
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,880
OK, so basically just with this
show, just don't try to theorize

1591
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,480
anything.
Don't try to guess anything.

1592
01:35:31,480 --> 01:35:34,240
Just kind of, you know.
Let's go with it.

1593
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:35,440
Let's go with the.
Flow.

1594
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:41,320
Yeah, I I was going to say, you
have, you have experienced this

1595
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:49,520
before in Harry Potter, because
what what kept Harry Potter from

1596
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:54,960
when was it the Order of the
Phoenix when Voldemort was

1597
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,560
trying to take him over?
And what's the difference

1598
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:03,440
between him and Voldemort?
Yeah, he has he, he has friends,

1599
01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:05,720
he has support system.
Right, he has.

1600
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:07,640
People who love him, right?
Yeah.

1601
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:09,120
OK.
Yeah.

1602
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:14,400
And this and this is it's, it's
a very similar idea with with

1603
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,240
how Randy is in the will of
time.

1604
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:21,200
OK.
You know, they, yeah, I will say

1605
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:27,560
they, they happily followed him.
That especially parent, they

1606
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:32,880
don't, they don't happily follow
him at at some point, but they

1607
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:38,520
do, you know, it is his Tavarian
nature and their Tavarian nature

1608
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,520
sort of and the fact that they
grew up together, it pulls them

1609
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,960
together.
OK, yeah, yeah.

1610
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:49,120
And then there's Elaine.
And I'm just kind of wondering

1611
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:50,480
how she's going to fit in all
this.

1612
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:52,680
But I'm not going to ask because
I already see your face.

1613
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:57,240
Your face is already giving it
away and then you're going to

1614
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:00,680
take a sip so I OK you.
See my?

1615
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:02,240
You see my name?
I'm trying.

1616
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:06,120
I'm really trying.
No spoilers.

1617
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:12,640
OK, Did we skip anything in this
episode I think we talked about

1618
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:18,880
at all?
Yeah, because I think the plan

1619
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:25,720
he, Ishamael, did say the plan
was, was to get him to turn by

1620
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:29,600
showing that his choices are
making his friends turn and what

1621
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:34,520
we have to save them is to turn.
And technically speaking, they,

1622
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:37,920
I mean, I guess if you want to,
if you want to look at it

1623
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:43,000
technically, I guess you could
say it Dwayne has taken a step

1624
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:48,320
because she has killed someone
parent has taken a step because

1625
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:51,720
he has killed someone parent and
killed a lot of people.

1626
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:55,360
But, you know, as far as like
willingly killing people.

1627
01:37:55,480 --> 01:37:58,600
Yeah, but but it seems like
you're you're doing the Ishmael

1628
01:37:58,640 --> 01:37:59,960
thing.
You're kind of twisting the

1629
01:37:59,960 --> 01:38:02,480
truth.
No, I'm not, I'm not saying that

1630
01:38:02,480 --> 01:38:04,440
they're turning towards the
dark.

1631
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,280
What?
But what I'm saying is if you

1632
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:11,880
think about what most people
would consider being dark or a

1633
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:16,800
dark, you know, an action that
could make a person turn dark,

1634
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,960
those are things that could
start the process.

1635
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:23,840
And I mean, Ishmael even says
something similar to Rand.

1636
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:25,400
He was like, yeah, He was like,
look at.

1637
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,880
He was like, what about her?
You left her in the.

1638
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,480
Band.
You made her kill her A.

1639
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,480
Murderer.
Yeah, and he's also already told

1640
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:37,160
Matt they look at you.
You're already a killer in a

1641
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:38,400
murder.
You're dark.

1642
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:39,640
Who?
Who would even want you?

1643
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,760
Yeah, he's already done that to
Matt.

1644
01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:43,800
You know, he's already told
Parent.

1645
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:45,080
Parent.
You don't really care about

1646
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,200
anything, do you?
Yeah, yeah.

1647
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:52,360
He's he's trying to
intentionally push them all in

1648
01:38:52,480 --> 01:38:57,160
in to make it make them think
they're going to that side.

1649
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:00,600
Right, but he OK, I will say
this too.

1650
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:06,000
I did notice at the end of the
episode when when all of all

1651
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,920
five of them are up on the tower
after everything has happened,

1652
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:15,760
Ran has basically, you know been
proclaimed as the dragon.

1653
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,520
I didn't notice that parents
eyes look like the wolf eyes and

1654
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,880
not his regular eyes which is
interesting because usually that

1655
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:26,920
only comes out he's.
Not a werewolf.

1656
01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:30,760
I, I know, I know I'm not the,
I'm not the one.

1657
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:34,000
You have to commit to that.
But I was just thinking about

1658
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:38,840
the fact that Ishmael had said
that when parent gets the farm,

1659
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,640
he'll be more wolf than man.
And you notice that, you know,

1660
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:48,760
like I said, usually his eyes
are just the regular dark eyes.

1661
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,160
But then I guess and I got to go
back and look and see if it was

1662
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:55,240
like that consistently from the
time Hopper died.

1663
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:59,040
But I just thought it was
interesting that they were in a

1664
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:04,200
period of at this point calm
because Ishmael had died.

1665
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:08,080
There was no more fighting.
Rand has just been proclaimed.

1666
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:11,160
Like they were actually just
kind of chilling on the tower at

1667
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:15,480
that moment, looking at
everybody chilling, cheering and

1668
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,520
parents eyes are gold.
I just thought that that was

1669
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:22,680
very interesting, so.
Yeah, I know he's not a

1670
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,120
werewolf.
I'm not the one who who keeps

1671
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:29,760
proclaiming werewolf.
I mean, he's on everything but

1672
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:31,720
be hairy.
So, I mean, you know, there's

1673
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:32,480
you.
Really.

1674
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,160
Have you seen his hair?
I.

1675
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:38,320
Mean, I mean all over Harry,
like, you know, like all up in

1676
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,280
here.
Yeah, no transformations that

1677
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:45,840
we've seen.
So OK Mike, I'm sure you have

1678
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:49,640
some shout outs for this final
episode of the season.

1679
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:54,360
Yeah, shout, shout out to
Salden's assistant who's like

1680
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:56,120
oh, he's dead.
Oh fuck.

1681
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,520
And kills himself.
Kills it, kills him, his,

1682
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:01,840
herself.
Oh, her ex voice.

1683
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:04,840
Yeah.
What?

1684
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:07,960
What was it that he said?
He said from birth, From birth

1685
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:11,000
to death I serve.
Something like that.

1686
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,680
Yeah, I was just like, dude, you
could have just.

1687
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:20,280
No, I'm not service Nope serve,
but like services services ended

1688
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,600
yeah I'll I'll say it's been
addiction like I'll be with you.

1689
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:29,240
I'm out ain't doing all that.
I don't think I have any other

1690
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:32,360
shout outs.
This was this was by far of the

1691
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,600
series since I haven't seen 3
yet, but so far this has been

1692
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,920
the best episode to me like a
whole series.

1693
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,600
I think I think Lena, like of
the two seasons, this is this

1694
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:46,560
was a great 1.
And I think that going forward,

1695
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,200
this is definitely gonna be is
it?

1696
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:52,920
I mean, I think they've like
Anthony said, they've kind of

1697
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,280
done they're doing their own
thing now with the show as

1698
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,880
opposed to trying to stay
completely faithful, faithful to

1699
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,200
the book.
And I mean, it could be good,

1700
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:05,080
could be bad, but I mean, so
far, I mean, I really, I

1701
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:08,040
definitely like the arc that
they've changed a few people

1702
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:12,480
like especially, especially Matt
Coffin, since I am I am now now

1703
01:42:12,480 --> 01:42:15,080
the president of his fan club.
I can't wait to see what they

1704
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:16,200
have, what else they do with
him.

1705
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:24,440
I'm I'm I'm more amenable to
Rand because I think that

1706
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:30,240
they've done a lot more to round
his charac to like kind of give

1707
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:35,640
him like he he just, he just
seems better now for some

1708
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:37,480
reason.
Like it it to me.

1709
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:43,000
Like I I I feel like I feel like
he's yeah, he's a better

1710
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:44,960
character now.
I mean, I'll probably change my

1711
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,880
mind once at once.
They get they start walking

1712
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:49,360
again and something else
happens.

1713
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,160
I was going to be like, here we
go again with the whining and

1714
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,400
the pining and all this other
stuff.

1715
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:59,120
I mean, but but yeah, I like, I
like my hand in this, in this,

1716
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:01,400
in this episode.
So we'll see how it goes.

1717
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,840
But yeah, I mean, and the
episodes don't don't seem as

1718
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:06,960
long as the first episode of the
season did.

1719
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:10,800
And I'm happy about that.
This episode had a shorter

1720
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,680
runtime.
You know, I'll be having

1721
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:14,160
episodes.
I'm glad.

1722
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:15,440
I'm glad they cut that shit
down.

1723
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,040
It did I'm.
Really happy about that.

1724
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:21,880
I mean, it, it was, it was very
action-packed so it didn't feel

1725
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:25,240
like a short episode.
So yeah.

1726
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:29,840
But so sweet.
We're finally done with Season 2

1727
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:34,200
like Anthony said.
Thank you to all the listeners

1728
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:38,120
who have stuck with us in this
very late review.

1729
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,840
We promised we would try to stay
on top of it for the next

1730
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,640
season.
Season 3 has already started

1731
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:45,880
there.
What is it?

1732
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:48,720
5 episodes already.
Buckle up, buttercup.

1733
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,800
Yeah, I think one of our one of
our new listeners on YouTube

1734
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,400
said the same thing said oh I
can't wait till y'all get to

1735
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,960
episode season 3, especially
episode. 4.

1736
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,560
Which is, which is the episode
that you said kind of changed

1737
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,920
your trajectory of your
thinking, right?

1738
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,880
Yes, ma'am.
It's like they're like they're

1739
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,960
like 3 or 4 people already who
talked about episode 4.

1740
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,160
Like that shit changes
everything like.

1741
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:20,040
Yeah, changes everything.
OK, alright, well I guess for

1742
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:23,280
now that is it for a show.
You can find us online at

1743
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:27,440
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We are on social media on all

1744
01:44:27,440 --> 01:44:29,120
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1745
01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:32,000
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1746
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,600
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1747
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,040
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1748
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:38,920
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1749
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:40,160
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