The Wheel of Time Season 3 Episode 5 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #354

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Anthony and we are
discussing the 5th episode of

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The Wheel of Time Season 3.
And just quickly, I'm going to

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put this disclaimer out there.
It's going to be me and Anthony

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for a couple of weeks because
Mike is having surgery in the

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morning.
He's OK, but he does have to

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have surgery.
He's going to be on hiatus for a

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couple of weeks.
He did say that it was OK for me

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to share that information just
in case people started wondering

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where the hell he went to.
So if you guys could just on our

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Facebook page, YouTube page,
wherever you can find us.

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If you would just leave some
good wishes and good vibes from

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Mike and tell him to hurry up
and get well so he can get his

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ass back on the show.
So is it the?

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Mike.
Yep, what's up, Mike?

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So with that being said, let's
get into this episode 5 Again, I

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would say these episodes are
putting a lot of information

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into this.
What 1 I think this episode is a

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hour and 4 minutes.
They're putting a lot of

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information in here.
Yeah, this.

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This is not necessarily a strong
episode.

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It's a info dump.
It is.

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It is exposition.
Position galore.

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What I mean we get to see almost
everybody.

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We don't see Leandron in this
episode, but we do get to see

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some stuff with the black, with
the 2 black Asha that's at the

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tower.
We get to see Elida doing some

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shady stuff.
You get to see what's going on

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with all of the Two Rivers
people and I'm the.

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Valda.
Have I mentioned how much I want

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this man to die?
Have I?

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I don't think I've mentioned it
enough.

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I want this man to die like the
most painful horrible.

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Any in even in the books when
you're reading involved the

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shows up it's like someone just
scraping you across your

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eyeball.
Like do I have to read about

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this dude again?
Oh my God.

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For something, and I will say
this though, to give credit to

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him, that you can leave such a
mark on your audience with so

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little screen time, 'cause we
don't see Valda a lot in this

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series, but every time he's on
screen he makes an impression

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and he makes you want to fucking
kill him.

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That is talent.
Yeah, that is talent.

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But we will get there.
Let's start at the top of the

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episode with Moraine, because
she has the Sarconon and she's

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playing around with it.
She's she playing with something

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I don't.
I was, I was real.

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I really felt like that first,
that first scene was like really

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double coded because she's
playing with fire.

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But it was also given very
sensual vibes looking at it.

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So if you remember using the one
power can be like a drug, it

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will can make you feel euphoric.
And that's where these a lot of

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untrained people to burning
themselves out.

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If since they made this change
and they're not doing the

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children call, they're going to
do the Sarkoden and calendar.

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The when people it's a little
bit lower when people used to

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make when they used to make
these angry all especially the

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sangria for their purpose.
The sangria, the ones that

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amplify your powers, make you
stronger, or you can store 1

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power to use for the later.
The ones like calendar and the

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Sarkonin, they usually put a
buffer built in so you won't

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burn yourself out.
OK, the thing about the

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calendar, it doesn't have a
buffer and that's the same

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thing.
I think they're trying to show

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us what the Sarkan in Sarkan in.
They didn't mean I have a buffer

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because she almost lost complete
control.

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She did, yeah.
And this is Lorraine, who is

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probably, like you said, the
strongest in the one Power as

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far as women aside from land
fear, right?

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Well of the non forsaken.
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yeah, she was she was about to
burn herself out and when LAN

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came and caught her, it was just
the way she was.

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It's almost like it's almost
like a high or almost like

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afterglow, you know, post post
orgasmic.

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That's that's kind of the way
she was.

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And even LAN not having directly
touched the source, but of

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course, experiencing it through
the bond, he could also feel

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just kind of how it was when she
asked him, she was like, what

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did you feel?
And he said, it's like a hunger

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or thirst, but something deeper.
And I was like, oh, so she's

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experiencing what Rand told her
he felt when he when he touched

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the source.
I was like, OK, now.

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So she understands.
But that high, you know, it's

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kind of like somebody, you know,
like I said, you're, you're,

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you're in your afterglow and
everything and somebody said

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something really stupid and it
just blows your high.

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It blows that feeling because he
was like, what did you see?

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What did you see in the rings?
And she's just like, and almost

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like collapses in his arms.
And I was just like, land.

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You just had to come and ruin
the moment.

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She was feeling probably the
best she has felt and who knows

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how long because I don't even
know how long they've been on

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this journey now.
Because when she talks to Gwen

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later on in the episode and Gwen
is talking about, you know,

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they're talking about the dream
walking.

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And Gwen says something about it
can be dangerous as she starts

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laughing.
And the Wayne is like what?

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She said you're telling me about
the dangers of dreams.

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And I remember a few years ago I
was telling you and I was like,

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OK, she said.
Years, plural.

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So they've been on this journey
for quite a while.

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I think it's, I think we feel
it's been at least a couple of

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years since they left.
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And then we don't know how long
it's been since they actually

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left Harbor Lawn this particular
time to come and do all of this.

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So it, it feels like it feels
like it's been a while, you

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know, especially with just kind
of Avienda, if you look at her

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now being a wise one, her, I
don't even want to say just her

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face has changed.
I don't know if they did

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something with her makeup or is
it just the way that they're

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styling her hair.
She almost looks like a

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completely different person.
I think she's also changed her

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demeanor too, like in maybe her
posture.

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She's not walking like a
warrior.

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OK, OK.
Yeah, yeah, she's, she's made a

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change.
OK, yeah, yeah.

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And then you can kind of see I
thought one of the funny things

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that will, and I don't mean
funny as in ha ha was funniest

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and weird.
You don't realize until the the

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scene where Gwen is about to go
sleep in the tent with the wise

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ones.
You don't realize until that

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moment, like, wait, we have not
seen Gwen and ran together like

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at all.
Like they've been in the same

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area.
They've been, you know,

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communing with the IEO.
But literally we have not seen

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them exchange a word up until
that moment in this in this

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episode.
I was like, wow, what a way to

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kind of explain or kind of show
this, this kind of deepening

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drift, you know, between them
and then with everything else

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going on.
But yeah, OK, so this place

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where the to our dad live, what
did he call it?

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He.
Cold rocks hold.

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Cold rocks hold, right?
Yeah, when I say their language

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and the way they name things,
it's almost like they want you

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to make it a tongue twister.
They want people like us who

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talk about this show to have
drinking games because that's

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almost what it's like.
I was like, I'm not going to

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even try to say that because I
feel like I'm going to.

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I'm going to stumble over my
words and something very wrong

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is but.
I mean a lot of their a lot of

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their stuff is just
descriptions.

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They have.
Become the location names.

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Yeah, but but there also is
like, like I said, you have all

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of the rhyming names, you know,
Milan and Gwaine Moraine,

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Elaine, just, you know, and it's
like when I'm sitting here and

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I'm I'm editing our shows, I
have found that I've had to like

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really cut because there are a
lot of times when I called Rand

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Land and called Land Ran and I
didn't even realize I was doing

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it.
But a lot of it is intentional.

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I mean, he he did it on purpose.
Randall Thor, Author Land,

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Lancelot, You know Darwin, Sir
Garwin in the green light.

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Glad, glad.
I mean all the things.

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The Knights of the Round Table
is all.

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Yeah, you're right.
You're right.

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Because I never say that too.
When we first started watching

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the show and the character of E
Grain came up and I was like E

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grain because that's what I was
thinking.

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I was like, oh, OK, it's just
similar.

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And up until you mentioned it a
couple episodes ago, I didn't

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even like really put together
the whole Arthur thing.

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Well, I guess until Moraine
mentioned Calador.

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And I was like, that sounds
familiar.

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Excalibur, yeah.
A sword in a stone and no one

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has got has has been able to get
it out in 3000 years.

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We should have added this to our
Arthurian legends list, but of

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course we didn't know it at the
time.

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But yeah.
It it the so yeah, the names do

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sound funny and weird, but he it
was very intentional.

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Yeah, yeah.
So we get here to where the Tar

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Dad kind of congregate, and I
tell you, I thought it was

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nothing but rocks.
I was like, OK, so they just

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live in the rocks.
And I mean, their clothes are

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kind of camouflaged because when
they started popping up

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everywhere, I was like, where
the hell did they come from?

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And then when you have the
overview shot, you see that

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they've actually made homes and
dwellings inside these rocks.

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And I was like.
Yeah, they actually do live some

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rocks.
It's like, I like this, this is

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cool.
But so yeah, so we get to meet

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Ruark's other wife or I don't
know, Bear's other wife because

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she's saying more in tune with
Bear then she did with Ruark.

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Like, OK, but one of the things
I liked about this scene is you

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kind of see, I feel like you see
a little bit of a maturity in

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Rand now as opposed to before he
went into Ruidian.

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Because when the little girl
comes up to him and she asks him

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if he's the car car, he doesn't
have the usual or I won't even

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say usual.
But Rand, I would say because of

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his age, I never looked at him
as mature or or thoughtful when

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it comes to certain things.
But this one is kind of like,

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OK, she's a young one.
I need to kind of maybe figure

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out how to answer her
differently than I would if an

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adult had come to ask me or, you
know, if someone like Ibn that

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came out.
So you thank you to Karakan.

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You know, he kind of slowly
rolls up his sleeve and he shows

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her the heads of the tattoos and
he says, I am.

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And I was like, OK, he's really
embracing it now.

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Like he's he's made his peace
with the fact that this is his

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life now.
And then in the split second,

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she makes a face and he starts
chasing a little girl.

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And then you see the other
little kids chase them.

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And I was like, OK, this is
interesting because you see

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Gwen's face.
She's looking at him.

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And the look on her face is kind
of like regret and sadness

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because she knows if they had
stayed in Two Rivers, this is

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what he wanted his life to be.
You know, he wanted to be a dad.

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He wanted to have children.
They they had that conversation

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way early in the first season
and that's not what she wants.

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And then Bear looks at her and
tells her he was, she was like

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your days of looking, you know,
looking after him are over.

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It's time for you to come do
what you're supposed to do.

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Like your pet.
Your paths are not aligned.

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Again, people telling y'all,
y'all not going to be together.

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Y'all don't need to be together.
Y'all are.

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Yeah.
The the thing about Rand,

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though, is before he went to
Ruidian, I think he had already

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kind of made peace with the fact
that he was the Dragon Reborn,

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and he knew that he needed to do
this.

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And after experiencing Rubidian
and learning about his blood

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history and in the history of
the IU, that's a lot of

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responsibility.
So he's had some time to think

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about it and contemplate on it.
Yeah.

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So he can't.
He knows that he can't be that

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boy from the Two Rivers anymore.
He has more.

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Yeah, it's like he accepted it
before Ruidian, but he was

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still, you could tell he was
still kind of angry about it.

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Or he and he was maybe a little
bit still unsure about about his

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place.
Like he knew he was a Dragon

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Reborn, but he didn't really
know what he needed to do or or

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what the significance of that
was.

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Because this being the Dragon
Reborn and understanding the

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point of the ideal are two
separate things.

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Yes.
Like he didn't know really what

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to expect, what this was about.
He just knew he needed to do it.

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And now we're seeing him now,
after he has.

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OK, not only am I the Dragon
Reborn, but I am also the Kar

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Khan.
And not only that, I am also I

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like, I, I think I am I ill in a
way that he didn't think about

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it before, like because he got
to see his mother and not just

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his mother, his father, that
important piece, because he

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didn't know about his father,
you know, but also going back to

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the last episode when he and
Land were having a conversation,

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you know, Land keeps playfully
calling him sheepherder when

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they're training.
And there was they had a

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conversation.
They were Lamb was asking him

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about something about being
something.

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And oh, not being I, I'll,
because he was saying, you know,

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I know I'm, I know I'm from
here.

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And I mean, I know I'm, I, I'll,
I know their blood runs through

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my veins, but this will never be
home for me.

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But, you know, he also mentioned
that the Two Rivers is not home

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any anymore, even like he
doesn't belong.

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And Lance said, do you think it
could be, you know, and Ran

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said, you know, it would be nice
to find something that I am, you

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know, that I can be.
Because at that point he didn't

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know who he was or what he was.
So I think not just a little

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anger about this whole destiny
thing being placed on him, but I

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think also just the unsurety,
the anxiety about it.

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And it just seems like ever
since Ruidian now, he knows who

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he is.
He knows fully where he came

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from.
He knows, like they said, he

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understands his ancestors and
and, you know, maybe not

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understands, but he knows the
journey that they've been on.

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And there's just something about
him.

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There is a peace in his presence
now.

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Like, OK, I've accepted it even
when later on in the episode

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when it's clear that things are
not good between him and and

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Gwen, Like it's very strange
when you see them on the on the

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screen together.
And when she leaves the tent, he

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just kind of he puts his head in
his hand and he kind of is like,

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because I think even at that
point, he realizes that's not

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going to be the way it was.
Like, OK, yeah, I think our time

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together might be at an end
because I'm clearly on one path

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and she's clearly on another.
You know, even though that's not

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we don't.
Again, we only get the one scene

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with them in this episode.
So we don't know where things

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are going, but it's clearly it
it it's very clear that they're

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they're stressed.
They're not, they're not, I

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don't know.
They're not flowing like they

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usually do.
So and you see her still kind

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of, I felt like kind of forcing
it because when she was getting

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ready to go to the tent and he
was like, you're leaving.

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And she was like, well, the wise
ones want me to sleep in their

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tent so we can practice some
more.

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She was like, I can stay.
He was like, no, you go.

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And again, that goes back to,
for me, the first season, you

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know, I had a conversation about
them being teenagers, but them

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acting more mature than most
teenagers we see in

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relationships in in media these
days, because they had a

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conversation about their future
when she was like, OK, I know we

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talked about doing this, but I
think I want to go be a wisdom.

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And if I'm a wisdom, I can't get
married.

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And he was just like, I know.
And it's like they had a moment

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to mourn what could have been
and that was it.

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Like they didn't argue about it.
They had some words later on

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about it.
But it was never, you know, just

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the kind of blow up teenage or
young adult arguments that we

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always see in relationships with
you.

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You want this more than men.
You don't want to be with me.

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But we didn't see any of that,
right?

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So I just have a feeling now
again, you kind of see that

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understanding between them, like
they are still on the court, but

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just in a different way.
And it makes me sad because I

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like them two together.
I thought they were cute.

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But at the same time, I do
believe that they have outgrown

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each other.
And then of course, there's the

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fact of grand, you know, Sneer
Land beer and land beer trying

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to kill E Gwang.
That's that's a problem.

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That's a.
Problem.

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Yeah, but it ain't going to be a
problem too because Gwen found

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the truth out now.
But you know what?

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That's what happens when you go
poke around and focus dreams

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when you're not supposed to.
That's so invasive and I that's

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one of the things that I think
bothers me about this whole

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whole dream Walker thing because
landfill, we know she's going to

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go on other people's dreams
because she's forsaken.

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We're not expecting her to do
anything good.

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We're not expecting her to
respect boundaries, We're not

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expecting her to ask consent.
We're not expecting that from

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her.
These people are ants to her.

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Right she don't give a fuck, I
don't care but for E Gwen to do

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it even though she had innocent
intentions.

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She just wanted to check on her
friends and see if her friends

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were OK while she was trying to
give Morena Suwan some privacy.

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Yeah, but obviously, obviously
they didn't teach her etiquette,

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you know, just going other
people's dreams.

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But I think it was a warning to
say that if you and someone

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else's dreams, they are the ones
that have the power.

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Yeah, but also what did Bear
tell her?

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Bear and Mullane both told her
you are not to go and to tell

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her on Riyadh without us telling
you that you can go because it's

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too dangerous.
And I mean.

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Telling around Riyadh is
dangerous, but being someone

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else's dream is very dangerous.
Yeah, but OK, so this is the,

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this is the look here.
Here's a lesson time because I'm

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still kind of confused about.
So when you're in your dream,

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that's kind of like one level
and then Teleronriad is a

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different level.
They're not necessary, they're

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not the same thing.
They're very separate so.

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But but some people can
inadvertently enter Teleronriad

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in their dreams, but they're
only there briefly, OK?

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Like when you saw Ewing walking
around to around Riyadh and she

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was seeing bits and pieces.
Yes, I did OK.

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Those are people touching to
around Riyadh from their own

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dreams.
That's what I was wondering

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because I was like, it's not
like at first when we first saw

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the shadow running, I was like,
OK, Landfill is playing with

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her.
And then you hear like children.

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That was like, I don't think she
would take the form of a child

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to kind of terrorize Gwen.
And then you see the the one

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kind of like a almost like a
spectral form playing with the

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doll.
And then you see, you see the

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little boy and it's like he's
there for a second and then he's

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not.
And I was like, oh, OK, So the

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little boy just kind of stepped
in there and he stepped back

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out, but I wasn't sure because I
was like, OK, is this something

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children can do?
But I guess, like Bear said,

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everyone can touch tell.
What did she say?

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Hello, Everyone can touch Teller
on Teller on Riyad, but not

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everyone has the ability to
enter.

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She doesn't say anything about
skill.

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There's no skill level involved
in this.

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There's no, I guess, no age
limit involved.

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It's just kind.
Of like it doesn't involve, it

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doesn't involve channeling.
Yeah, it's just kind.

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Of we.
Have but you know, if, if, if

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it's in you, you just kind of
step in and oh, I'm not supposed

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to be here.
Let me come back out.

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But they don't know that they're
doing this.

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Yeah.
So yeah.

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Oh, I I did say I did say it
doesn't involve channelling, but

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if you have certain Tarangi all
and can channelling, you can

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because it it gives you ability
to do it.

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Those those were big Tehran
graals in the book Song Grip.

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Tear for the guys, massage for
the women.

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No, no, no.
Tehran graals are are objects

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that you channel power into for
a specific purpose.

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Oh, OK.
OK.

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To the weaving.
OK.

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You're going to learn about that
in the season finale, but

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there's shortcuts into weaving.
Wait, how do you know what I'm a

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learn about in the season
finale?

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Is it?
Is it because?

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Obvious from the promo that
there's there's a you.

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Whatever anyway.
OK.

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No, I'm just saying because, you
know, I just thought about it.

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I haven't seen the promo yet so
OK.

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So I'm trying.
OK well so I'm trying to this.

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Even when I read the book, this
was still hard for me.

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OK.
Sangria can I think of them as

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like batteries.
OK.

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OK, either batteries or
amplifiers.

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Saddle and bone OK.
Yeah, amplifiers, Tehran Graal

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are objects that were created by
the one Power with a specific

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purpose, like the oath rods, the
Tehran Graal.

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OK.
The the the painting thing that

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Swan and Marine use right to get
into Teleran Riad are

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tarrangrial.
You channel into them and it

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does something specific.
OK, so something like calendar

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it does.
It is more like an amplifier.

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So it's a sangrial?
OK.

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The sarcanem is an amplifier.
It's a sangrial.

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OK.
The the Sean Chan bands and

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collars are tarrangrial because
they're channelling for a

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specific thing.
OK, OK.

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I don't know why we're on this
conversation, but yeah, because.

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I'm still trying to, yeah.
They can you be used to enter

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the dream world, which is what
we saw Swan and Marine use.

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They're using that to go into
the dream world together.

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OK, yeah, but this time she got
a Gwaine to take her and I was

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like for her to go to East
Gwaine and ask Wayne.

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OK, so they're teaching you how
to do this.

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OK, so can you do it with a
pastor?

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Like can't can can you take me
somewhere?

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I was like, they have to have
been there for at least a few

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months because I don't think
Moraine would ask Ewaine to do

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that if Ewaine was still just in
the learning stages.

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Yeah, it had to be at least at
least a month or two too.

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Dangerous.
At least a month, at least a

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month, at least at the minimum a
month.

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And if she was doing it every
night.

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And that's a lot because in the
book, in the book, it takes a

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while.
And I think they're just

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speeding up the process for the
show here.

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Is that, is that why Milan?
Because even when we see her

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trying it for the first time,
you know, she she wakes up and

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tell her on Riyadh and they're
telling her they were like,

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yeah, you know, there are things
that can hear that can hurt you.

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And Bear says there's things
that can eat you, that can eat

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you up.
Bear says there's things that

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can shatter your heart, and then
I think Elaine says there are

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things that can eat your heart.
Yeah.

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Oh, reverse because Elaine said
the other one and then Bear said

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the one about eating.
But then when she does that, all

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of a sudden Dwayne's clothing
changes and she was like, what

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happened?
And Bear said you were feeling

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scared so you needed to protect
yourself.

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So you put on a suit of armor.
She said basically anything that

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you think of and hear it can
happen.

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So then she changes into some
regular clothes and she lays

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back down and or no, she
doesn't.

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They tell her about the dangers
of teller on Riyadh, but they're

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like, but this is your, you
know, this is your, you know,

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when you're in your dreams, you
control your dreams.

445
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:10,200
This person who is stalking you,
if she's in your dreams, you can

446
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,680
control that.
You can, you can kick her out if

447
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,600
you want to.
It's just a matter of doing

448
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,240
that.
If you feel in danger and you

449
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,640
need to be somewhere else, you
just think of somewhere else and

450
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,240
you will be somewhere else.
And then that's when all of a

451
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,280
sudden she disappears and she
ends up in the abandoned streets

452
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,760
of Tarba line in her mind.
But then that's where Lanfir

453
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,720
finds her.
And Lanfir at this point looks

454
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,640
at her face to face because I
think when a Gwen first saw her

455
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,320
and there was a shadow, I think
she thought she was seeing Rena.

456
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,160
And then Lanfir comes to her and
she was like, I'm so glad you're

457
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,720
here.
She's basically like has her in

458
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,800
a chokehold.
And then that pin drops in the

459
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,400
real world, she wakes up and
they're like, Oh my God, you are

460
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,120
really being stalked by what did
they call her the shadow soul?

461
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,000
The shadow soul.
They were like, you really are

462
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,800
being stalked by one of them.
And Iguana is like, what is the

463
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,920
shadow soul?
They're like you wetlanders call

464
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,040
them forsaken.
And Iguana was like, shit, they

465
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,760
found me like yeah, that was
been keeping that was been

466
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,480
keeping track of y'all.
I don't know if she knew where

467
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,200
Dwayne was, but she definitely
knows where Randy is because I

468
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,960
think she said that she said
something to him about the IO

469
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,640
waste in the last episode,
right?

470
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,680
I think so.
Yeah, because she was.

471
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,280
Like.
It's smart.

472
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:46,560
But I'm just kind of, I don't
want to say confused, but she

473
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:53,280
had already been in a Dwayne's
dreams as Rena, so she's always

474
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,880
kind of know where she was.
She's always going to her dreams

475
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,240
anyway.
So why was this special?

476
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:07,560
Why was it saying different?
Maybe because before it, Gwen

477
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,920
had no idea of what was going
on.

478
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,560
And now because she's being
trained and she's being more

479
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,360
aware, maybe that's why it
seemed different and, and it I

480
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,120
don't know, maybe Lanfier is
like, OK, so now that you know

481
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,440
the difference, I don't need to
hide my face anymore.

482
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,120
Like she's she's basically
challenging E Gwen.

483
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,640
You know, she's she's jealous of
E Gwen because of Rand.

484
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,600
And I mean, she had her big
declaration to Rand in this

485
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,600
episode.
She told Rand, I love you.

486
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,400
I love you for the for the the
man you are, the boy you are as

487
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:51,000
much as who you were before she
So she's all in.

488
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,240
So now she's to the point where
she's like, OK, you know what?

489
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,280
I'm going to stop hiding behind
this other face this girl is

490
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,840
scared of.
I'm going to give her something

491
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,280
to really be scared of.
Because again, at this point, if

492
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:09,880
Wayne doesn't even know about
Celine slash land fear, she does

493
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,360
now.
But you know, because she sees

494
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,480
it in his dream at the end of
the episode.

495
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:22,480
And I think maybe even for her
more horrifying than the fact

496
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,640
that it's land fear and she she
realizes this is the woman

497
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,320
that's been stalking her.
But again, she's in Rand's

498
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,640
dream.
So this is what Rand is saying

499
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,600
in his dreams.
This is what Rand is desiring at

500
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,240
this point.
Yeah, but OK, so we know the

501
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,120
truth.
But this is the devil advocate

502
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:49,880
here for Rand.
If Lanfield has or if this

503
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,160
shadow soul who's been stalking
you has been doing this to you

504
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:59,120
in your dream, how do you know
she's not manipulating him in

505
00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:59,920
his dream?
She.

506
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,720
Yeah, she doesn't.
I thought that it was Renna.

507
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:09,800
It looked like Renna.
Lanfield has the same haircut as

508
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,960
E Wayne.
Oh yeah, it's.

509
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,160
The same hairstyle?
How do you not know that maybe

510
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,640
she looks like?
Yeah.

511
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,880
Wayne to him, you know what I'm
saying?

512
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,800
Like, how does she?
She jumped to a conclusion.

513
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,000
But again, I know that.
Yeah.

514
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,600
Yeah.
And but you're in his dream.

515
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,240
He's dream.
He could be dreaming about you.

516
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,440
And it's land fear.
But he didn't know it's land

517
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,960
fear.
Yeah, now we know different,

518
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,080
but.
We know different, but I'm

519
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:42,640
saying she don't know different.
Yeah, but you know, I think the

520
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:48,400
sad thing about that whole
interaction, I think is, you

521
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,840
know, all this time that
laughing and ran have been in

522
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,760
this, you know, they've been in
Teleron Riyadh or she's been in

523
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,840
his dreams and there's been the
almost touching and you can kind

524
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,760
of feel the longing because he's
like, OK, yes, I'm with E Gwen,

525
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,440
but I still feel attracted to
her.

526
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,040
I still care about, you know,
that I'm talking about land

527
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,640
fear.
And it's it's almost as if in

528
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,320
this episode when he finally
kind of relents and kisses her,

529
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,960
I was thinking about what you
said about about land fear and

530
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:27,520
Lou's Theron and about how she
only wanted him for his power.

531
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,360
And he didn't feel like, you
know, that that wasn't what he

532
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,200
wanted out of the relationship.
Like, he was into her because

533
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,520
she was her.
She was into him because she

534
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,000
wanted the power.
And he broke up with her because

535
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,520
of that.
I was getting kind of sort of

536
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,080
maybe opposite vibes with this
because I think Rand understands

537
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,640
that if Gwen is probably
destined for something

538
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,200
different, that does not include
him.

539
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,480
And then here you are.
You have this one person next to

540
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,360
you that you do care about who
is telling you, I love you, I

541
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,720
want to be with you.
I love the person that you are

542
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,400
now as much as I love the person
that you were before.

543
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,239
And it's just kind of like one
of those things where he's just

544
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,280
like, this is this is what I
want.

545
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,239
I want someone to love me and
see all of me and accept all of

546
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,960
me.
And I feel like, I do feel like

547
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,360
with E Gwen, sometimes he holds
himself back because he doesn't

548
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,800
want her to look at him in a
certain way, you know?

549
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,719
There's another possibility.
What's the other possibilities?

550
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:38,320
He's playing a dangerous game
he's trying to manipulate or

551
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,880
Forsaken.
That goes back to that

552
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:48,080
conversation he had with Moraine
in the bedroom way back when.

553
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:53,080
She was like we need her to help
us when he drink, when he went

554
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,320
to sleep.
Yes, when they went Kyrie in,

555
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,320
you think he would be.
Well, you know what?

556
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:05,400
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm, I'm thinking about

557
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,280
what what Moraine said to him
last episode about this

558
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,320
arrogance will get and she
didn't finish the thing.

559
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,280
But yeah, this arrogance will
get you killed if he if he has

560
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,960
gotten that comfortable in
knowing that he is the Dragon

561
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,280
Reborn and knowing he has
certain things to do.

562
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,880
Because I'm pretty sure that
what we saw love his visions and

563
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,200
Ruidian, that's probably not the
only thing he saw, right?

564
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,040
And we don't know we.
Know it's not.

565
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,760
We know it's not the only thing
he saw because he was there for

566
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,160
seven days.
Right.

567
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,480
But also we don't see how he got
how he got Moraine out of the

568
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,800
rings.
So I don't know, like I don't

569
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,440
know.
She had to.

570
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,120
He couldn't.
He couldn't take her out.

571
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,200
She had to, yeah, on her own.
OK, that's what I was going to

572
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,200
ask because I was like, I don't
know if he's able to get into

573
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,400
the rings.
Like they never specifically

574
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,200
say, OK, so Rand, you you're
going in the glass columns to

575
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,240
see the, you know, all the
memories of your ancestors, but

576
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,200
you can only go in the glass
columns.

577
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,840
Then he couldn't go in the ring
so.

578
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,640
Because if a man, remember I
told you, if a if a man touches

579
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:25,960
the the women's collar and
bracelets, not instantly both of

580
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,880
them the same thing.
If he had stepped into the

581
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,120
rings, he would have died.
OK.

582
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,200
If she had went into the glass
columns, she would have died.

583
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,360
OK.
So when Latrice had died made

584
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,840
that she she very specifically
separated those two because we

585
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,360
saw her make the columns, but we
didn't see her place the rings

586
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,160
there.
So I'm assuming that's a later

587
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,040
edition.
Yeah, those, those would be

588
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,920
Tehran Griell.
OK.

589
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,400
And before and they have
specific purposes.

590
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,160
OK, OK.
But yeah, OK.

591
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,480
So that's interesting to think
that Ran might be trying to

592
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,440
manipulate.
Because think about it, she is.

593
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:13,160
He knows at this point that she
is now the most powerful of the

594
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,440
Forsaken.
Because the Shamale is dead if

595
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,440
he can get her on his shy.
Male is dead without.

596
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,920
Hesitation.
As far as they are concerned,

597
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,760
he's dead.
Died so many.

598
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,960
He died so many times in the
books.

599
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:40,520
Whatever OK having having her on
his side or at least at least

600
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:46,560
having the same goal and
objective then that gives him

601
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,200
hit a leg up on the other
forsaken.

602
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,600
OK, all the ones who want him
dead.

603
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,040
Yeah, well.
We do.

604
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,560
Know all of them except for her.
Yeah, that's what I was going to

605
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,720
say.
We do know for a fact I don't.

606
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,200
I don't think she wants him dead
like I don't.

607
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,560
I don't see telling somebody I
love you.

608
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,360
I want to be with you.
I want you to.

609
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,160
Die.
She doesn't want to.

610
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,360
Be like those.
Those sentences don't go

611
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,720
together.
So yeah.

612
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,920
Yeah, So OK, it's her, her
objectives.

613
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,080
I know these were unclear.
Her objectives are very apparent

614
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,560
at the moment.
Like she's also so many.

615
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,280
She's very manipulative too.
So this is my.

616
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,480
I don't.
I don't know if I want to call

617
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,440
it a theory, but I did think
about this.

618
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,360
Go ahead and call it a theory,
and Honor might just call it a

619
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:43,200
theory.
So in the last episode when she

620
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,520
was in Rand's dream and she was
talking about a way to break her

621
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:51,400
oaths, she mentions the
Sarconan.

622
00:38:53,360 --> 00:39:00,480
Now Moraine has it and we also
saw a whole bunch of visions of

623
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:06,200
Moraine getting her throat slit
by land fear and I'm just kind

624
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,800
of wondering if LAN fear
manipulates.

625
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,560
I know she kind of told Ran she
was like, oh, so you came to the

626
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,400
IO waste that was smart, blah
blah blah.

627
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,080
But I'm wondering if maybe she
had a part in that because she

628
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,600
wanted she know she couldn't go
in there and get it.

629
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,440
I mean, I don't know what kind
of I don't know if forsaken can

630
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,800
enter Ruidian or what it would
do.

631
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,720
I would assume that something is
protecting it, but I'm just

632
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:38,720
wondering if she kind of
manipulated the situation so

633
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,600
that Moraine would go in and get
it and then she's going to try

634
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:49,720
to take it from Moraine.
That's a good theory, I don't

635
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:51,680
know.
I just, I just wonder because I

636
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,480
was like, it seems like such a
coincidence that she mentions

637
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,880
this and she talks about, OK,
yeah.

638
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,920
So if a woman gets the Sarcona
and, you know, a man who can

639
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,600
channel, gets calendar, then we
can do this.

640
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,920
We can kill the Forsaken.
And then all of a sudden the

641
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,280
next episode we learned about
the Sarcona and Moraine has the

642
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,200
Sarcona and she takes it out of
Ruidian.

643
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,800
Like, I don't know if she was
supposed to do that.

644
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,040
I don't know if the Zarconia was
supposed to stay in there.

645
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,120
I you know, it's again, because
it's not something I'm familiar

646
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,040
with.
I don't know what the rules are

647
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,000
regarding those song real.
Like was that supposed to stay

648
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,520
in the tree because every vision
of Rand.

649
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,480
All of that is original.
Oh, OK.

650
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,200
OK, so I was going to say, every
vision we saw of Rand, we saw

651
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,520
the tree and we saw Sarcona
right there in the heart of the

652
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,600
tree.
Yeah, that's all the reason.

653
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,080
And I'm sure Latrice said.
I put words around it just like

654
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,760
the draft, just like blue
standard put words around

655
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:04,240
calendar, OK?
So even if even if Lynn Free had

656
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,840
figured out where it was, she
probably couldn't get to it.

657
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,160
Yeah.
She probably couldn't get it.

658
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:17,040
She probably I would.
I wouldn't be surprised if she

659
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:24,240
knew what Latrice that I had
done, sending out all the the

660
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:29,400
Sangreal and turn growl with the
with the IO to be hidden right,

661
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,880
But she wouldn't have known
where they went, because

662
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,160
remember Latrice that I didn't
tell them to go to the IO waste.

663
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,880
They made that decision on their
own.

664
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,840
Yeah.
So at best, she knew it was

665
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,480
still out there in the world.
She wouldn't know where it was

666
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,120
and because by the time they did
it, she had been sealed away.

667
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:56,600
Yeah, yeah.
But I'm wondering if if Moraine

668
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,480
had left the Sarcona in the
tree, because remember, she

669
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,040
found it and put it in her
pocket right before she saw the

670
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,200
rings and went into the rings.
I'm wondering if she had left

671
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,800
the Sarcona in the tree and then
gone into the rings, would her

672
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,240
future have changed?
That's I think that's the thing

673
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:16,680
that was making me think because
I'm like.

674
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,280
That's the one thing we didn't
see in the visions we want was

675
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,880
the Sarcona.
Yeah, but we saw Landfair

676
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,480
killing her a lot of times, and
we know Landfair wants the

677
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,240
Sarcona for whatever reason.
She claims she wants to be able

678
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,840
to break her Dark host, but
maybe that's not the reason why

679
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,360
she wants.
And maybe she wants, I mean, she

680
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,800
could want to be more powerful
than the Dark 1.

681
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,400
I don't know if the Sarcona
would allow her to do that, but

682
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,560
we could have been seeing just
the result of, you know, kind of

683
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,880
cause and effect.
OK, you take the Sarconan.

684
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,320
So now the person who wants the
Sarconan probably more than you,

685
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,760
you see 1000 thousand visions of
her killing you.

686
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,200
But if you hadn't touched it and
then went to the rings, would

687
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,760
you have seen your future
differently?

688
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,520
Like she tells LAN in this
episode, she was like, I saw it.

689
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,880
I don't I'm not at the last
battle.

690
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,440
And she was like if if I him
alive ran and every vision that

691
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,440
I saw where I lived, Rand died.
And the only way that Rand will

692
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:23,840
win is if I am not there.
Now I did notice she did she

693
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,840
didn't say that she when she
said that particular statement.

694
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:35,640
I think when she said if Rand is
to live the last battle, I won't

695
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,480
be there or something like that.
I noticed she didn't say she was

696
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,600
dead in that one.
Did you say I didn't make it to

697
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,160
the last battle or I'm not at
the last battle?

698
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,440
I think she just said I'm not at
the last battle, but I don't

699
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,840
know.
She was drunk off that IU

700
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,720
oozling oolong whatever.
It is.

701
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,520
The, the, the IEO moonshine.
But yeah, so I was just kind of

702
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,640
wondering again, it's, it's one
of those things where I'm, I'm

703
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:12,480
taking it all of this
information and my mind is going

704
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,480
like a mile a minute trying to
figure out like, OK, so am I

705
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,920
looking at the story that
they're telling us and this

706
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,920
actually what they're telling
us?

707
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,040
Or are they kind of giving us a
misdirect?

708
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,320
That's because that's what I
kind of I feel like they're

709
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,200
pulling the Okie doke on us, but
I'm just not quite sure yet what

710
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,040
the Okie doke is.
But I feel like even with all of

711
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,240
this that they showed us in this
episode, I was like, there's

712
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:45,000
some information missing.
And I don't know, something

713
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:50,040
about that Sarconan being in
Moraine's position is bothering

714
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,840
me because of the fact.
That I think.

715
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,760
I think we might be heading down
the road of over thinking.

716
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,920
You think so?
Yeah, because I remember

717
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,000
thinking that too, you know that
because the one thing I noticed,

718
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,280
none of her visions, she had the
Sarcona, but it was in her

719
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:13,880
possession, right?
So I don't know.

720
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,000
I don't know if it would have
made a difference whether she

721
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,000
had it or not.
See.

722
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,680
I feel, I feel like.
I think her visions were going

723
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:30,560
to be the same no matter what
because even because 1-1

724
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:38,320
Lanchier Lanchier doesn't seem
to be trying to manipulate

725
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,520
Moraine in her dreams or
manipulate her other than trying

726
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,080
to help her manipulate Ran,
right?

727
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,720
Secondly, I think it's more
important that she sees that she

728
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,600
doesn't have the Sarconan in her
visions.

729
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,800
And that may be something that
she thought of too, which is why

730
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,960
she's trying to figure out how
to use it to protect herself

731
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,720
from landfill.
Because not in any of those

732
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:10,920
visions that she that we saw
that she ever had it.

733
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:20,280
So it's possible the wheel
intended for her to go there.

734
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:25,840
The wards were probably placed
there, and since Latrusodi was

735
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,120
probably the last isodi there,
it was probably for an isodi to

736
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:35,720
get, and as an isodi she was
able to get it.

737
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,320
OK, Yeah.
But the rings were not.

738
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,000
The rings don't intentionally, I
don't want to say they're

739
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:49,280
sentient, but it was showing her
what she needed to see and she

740
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,800
needed to see that if she isn't
prepared, that is going to kill

741
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:59,480
her over and over again.
And also if she doesn't die, Ran

742
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,440
can be successful.
That's what she needed to see.

743
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,960
OK.
OK, we have to.

744
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,680
We have to, we have to be
careful about trying to

745
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,720
overthink these things because
that's why I say it's important,

746
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,680
she says.
I'm not at the last battle, but

747
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:28,560
she doesn't really say I'm dead.
She only says Rand Rand and if I

748
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,920
live Rand dies.
OK.

749
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those are those are two

750
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:44,640
separate.
Yeah, so, so if she OK 'cause I

751
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,240
was going to say so if she's not
at the last battle, then where

752
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:53,840
the hell is she?
If she's not dead, I mean, But I

753
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,440
mean that that that could be OK.
We're.

754
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,800
We're not going to go down this
yellow brick road today.

755
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,560
We'll just as you say, we'll
stick a pin in that because

756
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,600
there's some other interesting
things happening in this episode

757
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,840
that we need to get to.
And for right now, I'm going

758
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:21,760
straight to a lot of that bitch
to die because I'm sure that

759
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:27,840
maybe for half a second.
So one was wishing that she was

760
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,960
a dark friend so she didn't have
to abide by those oaths because

761
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,240
I'm sure she wanted to take that
one power and whip the shit out

762
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:40,560
of the lighter after the
disrespect she displayed in the

763
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,280
ambulance office.
I was looking at this like.

764
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,720
If if you look that disrespect
in the dictionary, you will see

765
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,920
a picture of a lot of star.
And it's probably, and it's

766
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,040
probably one of those scratch
and sniff pictures that that

767
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:01,080
smells like roses.
Rotten Roses is that?

768
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,960
Is that what someone said?
No, she just said.

769
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,400
She just said the overwhelming
smell of your perfumed roses.

770
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,240
Yeah, nobody wants to see that.
Because she's sitting there

771
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,560
reading, I'm assuming one of
Moraine's letters, you know,

772
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,240
because of course she and
Moraine are not on good terms

773
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,680
right now.
She's she's reading the letters,

774
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,000
She smells the letter that all
of a sudden you see her kind of

775
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,480
look and she puts the letter
away real quick and before Eliza

776
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,120
even gets into the room.
Good.

777
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,600
She was like the scent of your
perfumed rose.

778
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,840
Is is it's it's so strong that
it you know, it comes into the

779
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,160
room before you do.
I was like, oh, that, but that's

780
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,600
a good that's a good alarm to
have.

781
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,520
She coming down the hall.
You like, oh, she going to be

782
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:55,840
here in 5 four.
And, and the worst part of it

783
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,680
the the outright disrespect, she
said.

784
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,000
Mother they.
Come in polite.

785
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,360
She said.
You fool many people, but I know

786
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:12,120
what you are.
River trash man.

787
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,960
I know she was.
Before that bef even before.

788
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,120
That I know she's got, she's
talking about you can turn this

789
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,840
proper place into a, a river
hood and you've had kings and

790
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,680
Queens sit on this.
On these simple chairs with hard

791
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,280
ass.
Carpet.

792
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,760
Hard ass carpet.
No, ma'am, I know.

793
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,320
I know what you are, River
trashed.

794
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,400
I was like, wow, I've.
Had I paused?

795
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,600
This is the first time watching
this episode.

796
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,600
I paused.
Like you bitch.

797
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,800
I had to get up and get myself
together.

798
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,520
But again, just like she did
with Quinn, more gays.

799
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,680
So one, she kept it together.
She did.

800
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,960
I don't know how she.
Did because when Eliza was like,

801
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,400
because obviously Eliza has been
elected as the temporary sitter

802
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,200
of the red Agia because one, she
was given the audience with

803
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,880
Cameron and then two, she was
like, I'm going to call for a

804
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:18,320
vote in the hall and you know,
for us to go after and Cage

805
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,760
Randall, Thor and blah, blah,
blah.

806
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,640
And what this was that she said.
She said, we'll see which way

807
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,680
the votes go.
She said I assume you have a

808
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,000
better handle on that then the
last time you faced off against

809
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,320
me, I was like, you know what?
So 1 is that bitch.

810
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,520
She was like, oh, you think you
about to come up in my house and

811
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,920
disrespect me.
She was like, no, I'm a

812
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,600
disrespect you, but I'm going to
be polite with this shit.

813
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,720
I loved it.
She was just looking at her like

814
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,320
you still talking, you still
talk.

815
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,960
She was like, it's very hard to
get in this an appointment with

816
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,880
me.
I'm sure you're not here to talk

817
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,800
about my sense of style.
Like, come on.

818
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:04,640
But when I tell you that woman,
when she called her river trash,

819
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,760
I was like that.
I was like that meme, like, oh,

820
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,560
what?
I rewound it.

821
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,280
River trash.
Oh, she was like, yeah, you

822
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,240
can't.
What does she call it?

823
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:22,440
She said you've been the same
thing ever since you brought

824
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,440
your little filthy 9 year old
self through our doors.

825
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,760
I was like wow.
I said, are you mad that someone

826
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,680
younger than you beat you as
Amalan or you just don't like

827
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,960
her just because of where she's
from or it's probably.

828
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:41,720
Because of where she's from and
and the fact that, you know, he

829
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:43,400
lied to have been around a long
time.

830
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,720
I, I Yeah.
You know, and, and she's

831
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:51,600
probably been dealing with noble
families, noble houses her

832
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,080
entire life.
Yeah.

833
00:52:53,960 --> 00:53:02,160
And to have this river trash
become Armalin that there has to

834
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:10,400
be so disrespectful to her.
I felt the same way I did when

835
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:16,640
Nolan called Peggy his pets, his
pets on Invincible.

836
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,640
I felt the same outrage.
I was like, hold up this bitch.

837
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,280
Like I wanted to come through
the screen and fight for

838
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,560
someone.
But again, so why kept her cool?

839
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,320
She made her little digs and
when the only time you saw her

840
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,560
falter was when Eliza asked her
about Moraine because she comes

841
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,720
in, the first thing she says is
where is Elaine?

842
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,160
She was like, her brothers have
been missing her.

843
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,840
And Swan says, I said, she's on
a mission of my own choosing.

844
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,240
I've already let her mother
know.

845
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:49,880
And that's when Eliza really
starts going in on her.

846
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,640
But then she was like, where's
Marines to die?

847
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,400
And you see someone's face
almost falter.

848
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,480
And she was like, she's been
exiled.

849
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,560
She was like, yeah, cuz I
remember when you were a novice,

850
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,720
you were all over her like a
little lovesick puppy.

851
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:05,560
And I think I, I asked about
that a couple of episodes ago.

852
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,320
I was like, was it widely known
that they were together back

853
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,440
then?
And yeah, apparently it was.

854
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,400
And so I was like, that was a
long time ago.

855
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,600
And she was like, people never
change.

856
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,280
I was like, so you literally are
telling her that you are the

857
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,120
same bitch that she beat went up
for the ambulance seat 20 years

858
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,920
ago.
So you OK you the same person

859
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,800
too.
But salon was just like, well

860
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,040
that's about all our time.
The ambulance The ambulance day

861
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,480
is a busy 1 is.
There anything else?

862
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,200
And then she's like, no, thank
you, Mother.

863
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,960
Is, is the way she says mother.
It's just like there's so much

864
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:52,440
disdain dripping off her tongue
when she has to call someone

865
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,480
mother.
She's like, no, thank you

866
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,680
mother, for your time.
I thought did that mean with the

867
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,160
the person doing this someone
looking for a way to use the one

868
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,360
power?
That's how I felt because the,

869
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,920
the look on Salon's face when
Elijah walked out, I was like,

870
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,040
she's sitting here thinking,
damn, I need to know if she's a

871
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,840
dark friend for real.
Because I need I, I need to get

872
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,360
her.
Speaking of trying to figure out

873
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,200
if she's a dark friend, not a
segue.

874
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,840
I think Swan had the same
thought.

875
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,640
I need to find out if this chick
is dark.

876
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,280
She's black.
Harsh.

877
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,240
Let me tell you, Leanna is all
but convinced.

878
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,000
Leanna is like she black Asha.
We just need to go.

879
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,560
We just need to go take care of
her.

880
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,960
And even Veron is like, I
understand how you feel, but we

881
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:51,760
have to make certain, and I will
tell you this, something about

882
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,760
this episode and maybe a little
bit about the last episode I'm

883
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,440
starting to change my opinion
about Baron said that I think

884
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,840
she could be the the other black
Asha.

885
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,360
What will make you think that I?
Don't it's either her or it or

886
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,480
it was Adelaus because when
they're sitting there talking

887
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,680
when someone comes in and she's
telling her about the numbers,

888
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,880
she was like, OK, yeah, so it
it's about the numbers, she

889
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,240
said.
Leandrin, you know, she

890
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:24,160
basically had hearts, for she
was.

891
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,080
Connected to the. 4 hearts to
the black Asha, she said there

892
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,480
were three people in each heart.
She had four hearts.

893
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,320
That means there were twelve of
them.

894
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,080
Eleven of them revealed
themselves.

895
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,520
So there's still one more.
But if you notice at the

896
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,920
beginning of that scene when she
is with Adelais, like Adelais

897
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,120
still is recovering from what
whatever spell Naomi did on her,

898
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,600
if you want to call it a spell.
But she's sitting there drinking

899
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,000
her tea.
And when Sawan comes in, of

900
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,200
course, they're not really
trying to hide anything from

901
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,320
Adelaide because they think, OK,
Adelaide, her mind is a little

902
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,440
bit muddled.
She probably won't pay

903
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,400
attention.
But did you notice the change in

904
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,560
her demeanor when the words
Black Asha came out?

905
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,440
She literally and she was
sitting there paying attention

906
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,240
to what they were saying.
So it was it's either Adelaide

907
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:23,160
is or is is Varian.
But the the reason why I said I

908
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:30,120
think it could possibly be
Varian is because one when

909
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,720
Leanna was sitting there talking
about, oh, is it lighter?

910
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,920
Is it lighter?
Is it lighter?

911
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,480
I feel like she was trying to
deflect from that because she

912
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,280
might be black Asha, but I don't
think she wants somebody else to

913
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,480
be accused of that false thing.
I, I don't know, I I feel like

914
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,120
she's kind of teetering if she
is black Asha.

915
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,040
The second part is when they do
the little bait and switch thing

916
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,440
later on in the episode.
You know, they have the not the

917
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,760
accepted girl bring Adelais out
and Elias.

918
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,360
Elias sees her and they start
talking and the girl goes back

919
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,720
in and Leanna is like so did she
take the bait?

920
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,400
The girl says yes, Veron is over
there reading the book but she

921
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,240
looks so worried.
And I was like, OK.

922
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,040
Is she worried about her sister
talking to a lighter?

923
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,520
Or is she worried about her
sister maybe slipping up and

924
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,760
saying something that she's not
supposed to say because she

925
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,880
doesn't know that she's not
supposed to say it.

926
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,040
And I know that they probably
trained her.

927
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,760
They probably got her to say,
OK, yeah, when she comes to you,

928
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,760
you're going to say 13th
Depository, you're going to say

929
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,320
Black Asha, because that's what
Adelaide does to kind of get

930
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,280
Eliza to go down to the 13th
Depository where they keep

931
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:52,000
enjoying Amico.
But they also once all of that

932
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:56,600
happens, once Eliza is down
there, she questions Joy Amico,

933
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,040
she kills Amoco, she tries to
get the the name of the last

934
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,480
sister out of Joya, But here
comes the Gray man and kills

935
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:11,920
Joya and then attacks Elida.
Suwan and Leanna come down to

936
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,160
the repository.
They see what's going on.

937
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,560
Suwan, he starts healing Elida's
wounds.

938
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,080
And she was like, think I may
have underestimated you.

939
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,160
I think I may have, you know,
kind of made a mistake with you.

940
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,720
Who is not there, Baron?
Marian.

941
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,640
So I I don't know, I just feel
especially after the last Gray

942
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:40,160
man like this is now 2 Gray men
that have been in the tower, in

943
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,440
the tower.
Well, they they'll be they can

944
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:44,960
get into the tire.
I know.

945
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:51,280
But what I'm saying is you have
two attacks like back-to-back,

946
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:56,240
and Baron is kind of sort of
attached to both of them, kind

947
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:02,000
of in a right.
Because when the Gray man

948
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,640
attacked Elaine and Naive, who's
coming around the corner?

949
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,840
Varon, who doesn't ask who
stabbed the Gray man?

950
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:15,840
Varon, she had what?
You got a Gray man in your

951
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:21,840
tower, on your floor.
And you don't have any questions

952
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,320
about it.
You don't ask why.

953
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:28,880
Why do you think he's after you?
You, you have no curiosity about

954
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:34,760
this thing whatsoever.
Then you have all this stuff

955
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,040
happened with Delighta.
You know, you set the trap for

956
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,640
her because that's what someone
told you to do.

957
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,720
But then you didn't go with them
to see what the result of that

958
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,320
trap was.
This is the third great man,

959
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,160
right?
Yes, but the first Gray man was

960
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,160
in the was in the town.
Yeah, but they're all Mogadian.

961
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:03,640
Mogadian is Sinanese Gray man.
Yeah, but I, I don't know.

962
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,720
They still have a sister in in
the they still have a black Asha

963
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,280
in the tower.
We how do we know that MO Gideon

964
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,160
is not working?
Especially because she knows

965
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,840
that Leandra is leading the
Black Asha because again, she

966
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:20,560
was disguised as a servant in
Tan Chico in Leandra's house.

967
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:27,200
Just like she has that secret.
But what would What would

968
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,920
Magedian?
This is getting into the weeds,

969
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:38,200
but what would Mageddon game to
stand or stand to gain by

970
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:43,320
killing Julia and Amica?
Maybe.

971
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:52,840
How important is that 13th
sister in the tower, Mageddon

972
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,320
she got her hands on the black
eyes that she need to have her

973
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,640
hands on.
Whatever's happened to the tower

974
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:02,240
don't have nothing to do with
what they got going on here, and

975
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,680
the only person who knew what
they were doing in Tan Chico was

976
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,600
Leandre.
She just like, did she?

977
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,680
Did she tell them?
In the last episode was that?

978
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,200
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

979
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,720
While they were there.
Yeah, yeah, because of the

980
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:22,720
because of the Adam, but I don't
know, my brain hasn't thought

981
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,000
that part yet.
No, but the 13th sister doesn't

982
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,480
know why they're in tan.
She doesn't even probably even

983
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,600
know where they are.
The 12th Sister.

984
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,120
The 12th Sister.
So I'm still trying to figure

985
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,760
out why the great man would be
there to kill Amoco and Joy

986
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,320
because they don't have any
information.

987
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,840
I mean, Joy was about to tell
who The Who the 12th sister was.

988
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:52,520
So maybe I don't know, maybe
it's, you know, kind of like

989
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:57,240
Magedian has her little super
secret partnership with Gabriel

990
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:02,720
or Raven, maybe whoever this
maybe she has ties to this 12th

991
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,080
sister and she doesn't want them
to find out who it is, because

992
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,280
maybe that's how she's getting
some of her information.

993
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,840
Aside from her being in Tan
Chico, She's that means she

994
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,200
could still have somebody
watching what's going on at the

995
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,640
tower for any information.
I mean, that's the only thing I

996
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:25,840
can think of information because
it's not like, I mean, unless

997
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,920
there's something this is a
skill I don't know about.

998
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,520
It's not like she can be in two
places at one time if she's

999
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,120
paying attention in Tan Chico
because that's where the

1000
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,520
priority is.
OK, Leandra has identified there

1001
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,400
is a male, a Dom somewhere in
that town.

1002
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,120
The collar.
They already have the bracelet.

1003
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:50,880
And, you know, maybe she's like,
OK, while I'm here doing this, I

1004
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,800
need you.
Or maybe maybe she's not even

1005
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,960
directly.
Maybe it's an indirect thing and

1006
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,720
she's just kind of like, OK, I
need you to give me information

1007
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,280
and let me know what's going on.
So I mean, I don't know.

1008
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,400
Softly, softly from the shadows.
Softly, softly from the shadows.

1009
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,280
So.
Guess for for as much of A So I

1010
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,480
guess for as much of a bitch as
she is a light as not no no.

1011
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,360
I was going to go off on a
tangent about we still don't

1012
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,840
know who that last Forsaken is.
Yeah, you're.

1013
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,040
Right and.
That's who it is.

1014
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,040
Look, maybe that's who the 13th.
I mean the 12th Aja.

1015
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,400
See, now you got me saying 13th.
Maybe that's who the 12th Aja

1016
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,440
is.
I don't know.

1017
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,560
But, you know, I thought Lyda
was going to get it.

1018
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,520
And.
And this show keeps teasing

1019
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,720
stuff.
They keep trying to stab folks

1020
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,720
and make me think that they're
about to die.

1021
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,680
And I'm like, yes, yes, yes.
And.

1022
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:04,440
Now Eliza is going to use this
as part of her evidence to get

1023
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,320
rid of.
So fucking lutely.

1024
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,720
See this?
She set me up to be murdered.

1025
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,160
She's probably working, working
with dark friends.

1026
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,680
So she has to be a dark friend.
I kind of, yeah.

1027
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:27,360
She right before they were going
to tell me who it was, the great

1028
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,640
man killed them.
Yeah, I can see her using that

1029
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:36,080
to her her advantage.
That's going to be terrible.

1030
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,120
But on the flip side, so why I
could easily say, if that was

1031
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:46,000
the case, why would I heal her?
Because if that's what you're

1032
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,280
going to do, let the great man
do his job.

1033
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,040
You don't have to come down
there and save her.

1034
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,640
Yeah, but some people may just
be liquid for an excuse.

1035
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:58,440
And I'm sure they are, but I'm
saying that that that excuse

1036
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,200
will be flimsy at best, I think
because of the fact that Swann

1037
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,960
saved her.
So yeah.

1038
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,040
I don't know.
In combination with all the

1039
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:14,040
other things letting letting the
dragon get away.

1040
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,520
Which again, was not technically
her fault because she was on the

1041
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:20,120
back.
She was.

1042
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,560
She was on the grounds.
Technically speaking, Leanna is

1043
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,200
the one that let the dragon get
away.

1044
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:29,280
It's just again who?
Who.

1045
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,680
Leanna is Swan's keeper.
I know I'm just saying I'm I'm

1046
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,040
just nitpicking, but those,
those are arguments that can

1047
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,920
kind of be pulled apart.
We can be, but when people have

1048
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,400
an idea in the head what they
want to do, it's very easy to

1049
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,360
overlook.
I know.

1050
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,640
That's why we got the prison we
got now, but we're not going to

1051
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,400
go there.
Oh, let's not go there.

1052
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,760
OK, so we're just going to segue
into a different part of the

1053
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,880
story because talk about almost
killing folks and me having a

1054
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,640
heart attack.
We need to go to the Two Rivers.

1055
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:15,240
I'm going to say it again.
I want child Balda to die a slow

1056
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:20,480
and very painful death.
The problem?

1057
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,120
He's saving the problem.
This psychopath, right?

1058
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:29,480
He itching, chomping at the bit
to put these little girls to the

1059
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,600
question.
He can't wait.

1060
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,960
That's a problem.
And the fact that.

1061
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,360
He don't really care about
pairing the eyeball.

1062
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:46,680
He don't care.
They're girls and they're women

1063
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:51,960
and they deserve to be punished.
And I believe what you said in

1064
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,880
the last episode, you were like,
I don't think it's just I said

1065
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,360
that.
You said you think he has a

1066
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,600
problem with women.
Obviously he does like he has a

1067
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,720
hard on for doing this
questioning because he even

1068
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,200
tries it again.
He was like, OK, so we really

1069
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,080
need to get this information on
parent.

1070
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,120
You don't let me question these
women.

1071
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:16,880
And Dane is like, no.
Even drunk Dane is like no.

1072
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,880
He stood there for us.
He's like, yeah, no, absolutely

1073
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,800
not.
So he goes into the tent where

1074
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:31,160
he's keeping the coffin women
and he's trying to be nice to

1075
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,319
the girls.
You know, he was like, hey,

1076
01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:35,200
nobody's going to get hurt and
I'm sorry.

1077
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,200
I was like, as soon as he said
that, I was like, somebody's

1078
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,240
going to get hurt.
But he's like, nobody's going to

1079
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,040
get hurt.
He was like, I just need to know

1080
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:46,160
where Paranoid Bar and Barra is.
And one of the girls answers,

1081
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,840
you know, she was like, I'm
sorry, Sir, we don't know where

1082
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,960
he is.
She was like, even if he was

1083
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,040
back in the village, we haven't
seen him.

1084
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:58,520
And I, I, we wouldn't remember
what he looks like anyway.

1085
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,439
Because, you know, again, at
this point, it's been a couple

1086
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,920
of years.
The girls were little when they

1087
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,080
left.
So they've gotten a little bit

1088
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,000
older, but still they're like,
no, we don't know him.

1089
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,000
And while they're doing that,
Natty is over to the side trying

1090
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,439
to get his keys.
And I'm just sitting there like,

1091
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:14,800
Natty, you're about to get
caught.

1092
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,279
So she didn't get caught the
first time.

1093
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:20,880
He gets up and he he turns
around and almost looks like

1094
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,080
he's about to walk off.
And then the other girl, she, I

1095
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,479
guess she realizes what her mom
was trying to do.

1096
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,560
So she called me.
She was like, but if he were to

1097
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,240
come back, I know where he would
go.

1098
01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:39,399
So he comes back over.
He bends down to them and as

1099
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:42,160
soon as he did that, it was
something about the way his body

1100
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,520
was angled.
I said he knows Natty was trying

1101
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:50,160
to take them keys.
So she tries to take the keys.

1102
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,960
He catches her and then he like,
he pulls her arm and kind of

1103
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,600
slams her face up against the
cage.

1104
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:04,360
And then all of a sudden he is
hit with the one power.

1105
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,120
And at this point, we don't know
where it came from.

1106
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,000
So of course he's pissed off.
Oh, you're witches, You're

1107
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,400
witches.
And that is like, no, it was me.

1108
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,040
It was me.
And he kind of looks at her.

1109
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,480
And then he opens the cage and
he takes her out and gives her

1110
01:10:19,480 --> 01:10:21,240
the child bothered.
He was like, this one is ready

1111
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,000
for questioning.
He.

1112
01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:27,640
Says you're a witch.
Now, well, here's the thing, he

1113
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,960
said you're a witch when he was
talking to all three of them in

1114
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,080
the cage.
And then when Natty says it was

1115
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,760
me, it was me.
And he takes her out when at

1116
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,400
first I was pissed.
I was like, you asshole.

1117
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:46,920
But then I started thinking,
child Baldur, as we just said,

1118
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:51,200
he wasn't going to let go of
wanting to question one of those

1119
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,880
girls or all three of those
girls.

1120
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:59,080
And I think Dane knew enough to
know at some point he's going to

1121
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:04,920
get what he wants.
And I really feel like when he

1122
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,800
was in that tent and he realized
that someone to channel, I think

1123
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,760
he knew it had to be one of the
girls, but I don't think he

1124
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,760
wanted to give the girls up to
child bottle knowing what he's

1125
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,080
capable of.
And I think when Natty kind of

1126
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,520
said it was me, it was me that
kind of gave him a way to 1

1127
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,720
protect the girls.
Because again, Dane is doing all

1128
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,280
this other bullshit because he
wants parent, but we know that

1129
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,040
he's not a cool person.
We've seen that before.

1130
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,640
Even with Ivienda when he had
her locked up, he was still

1131
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,880
like, OK, we can give her some
water.

1132
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,600
Which none of the other white
clothes would have done.

1133
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,000
So I think he used that as an
excuse to kind of save the

1134
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,600
girls.
You didn't have to say they were

1135
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,280
channeling and he took Maddie
out, of course, didn't have to

1136
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,960
say she channel.
He was just like, this one's

1137
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,880
ready for your questioning.
Valda was going to do what he

1138
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,640
did to her regardless of whether
or not she was a channeler or

1139
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,840
not, because he just needed to
get that out of his system.

1140
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:14,320
So of course, when Parent and
File and Bane and Shiad finally

1141
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,320
get down there to kind of rescue
them and they get the girls out

1142
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,360
and the girls tell them, OK,
they took Mom that way, when he

1143
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,240
comes around the corner, you can
tell, probably because of his

1144
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,000
senses, you can tell he already
knows that Natty is dead.

1145
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,400
And of course you go around and
you see he tied her to a stake

1146
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,600
and he burned her just like he
did the other eyes to die when

1147
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,280
we first met him.
And at that point I was like,

1148
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,240
OK, parent is about to kill
somebody.

1149
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,560
He's about to kill somebody
because of course he's visibly

1150
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,560
upset by I'll is like, OK, we
have to go.

1151
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:51,720
And they run smack dab in today.
And he was like, you did this,

1152
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,000
you allowed this.
He was like, I thought you was a

1153
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,560
good man.
Danny said I was a good man up

1154
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,600
until you.
Then the fight starts.

1155
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,680
Now before all of that, when
they got ready to go to the to

1156
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,320
the, you know, to the camp and
they were talking about what

1157
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:15,000
they were going to do is Paran,
Fayil, Bain, Chiad, Alana and

1158
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:21,040
Maxim and loyal.
And Paran was like, OK, so this

1159
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,560
is what we're going to do.
Me, Bain and Chiad, we're going

1160
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,480
to go down there.
We're going to get Natty and the

1161
01:13:25,480 --> 01:13:31,560
girls and then Fayil says and me
and the parent says, no, not

1162
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,480
yet.
You're going to stay up here.

1163
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:35,760
It's going to be the three of
us.

1164
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:40,440
And she pulls out her knife and
puts it up to parents throat and

1165
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:42,760
bang the chair.
Look at each other and say, and

1166
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,960
her they were like, yeah, we
taking her.

1167
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:54,960
But yeah, I they get into they
get into this fight I'll with

1168
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,360
like 3 or 4 white cloaks and
then pairing with Dane.

1169
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,520
I guess Dane was pissed off
enough.

1170
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,160
He might have been drunk, but he
was pissed off enough like OK,

1171
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:08,240
I'm going to fight this dude
when he stabbed parent inside.

1172
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,280
I was like, OK, I have seen
enough near death today.

1173
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,920
I don't need to see anymore.
And I should have kept my mouth

1174
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,160
shut because I should have known
that wasn't going to be the end

1175
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:24,680
of it.
Because when they're in the big

1176
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:31,080
group, Alana makes a remark.
And she was like, it's a clear

1177
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,560
night tonight.
There's no clouds.

1178
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,320
I'm going to I'm going to create
some cover.

1179
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,480
And Maximus telling her he was
like, no, we, we agreed that

1180
01:14:39,480 --> 01:14:42,240
you're going to stay up here and
heal the girls in case they need

1181
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,680
it.
And she looked at him and she

1182
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,640
was like, I'll create some
cover.

1183
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,040
And he said, Alana, no, you
can't do this.

1184
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:53,400
He was like, those are white
clothes down there, You know, do

1185
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:58,160
you know what they would do if
they get even a whiff of

1186
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:02,960
channeling being done?
And she looks at him and she

1187
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,920
looks at them and she was like,
I'll create cover and Maximus

1188
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,400
life.
I don't even know why I'm

1189
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,160
wasting my breath because she's
going to do what she wants to do

1190
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,920
when they get into this whole
argument.

1191
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:24,200
Because he was like, OK, I have
said I don't like it when they

1192
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:28,040
argue.
It's so heart wrenching.

1193
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:36,320
But yeah, he was like, he was
like, so why are you doing this?

1194
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,480
And she was like, you don't tell
me what to do.

1195
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:43,080
We don't we don't make no, he
said we usually make decisions

1196
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,480
together.
And she said, we haven't been

1197
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:46,440
much of a weed lately.
He's like, really?

1198
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:48,920
You gonna say that to me?
He was like, I followed you up

1199
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,120
Turn Mountain.
Why you gotta call it Turnip

1200
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,880
Mountain?
He's I followed you up Turnip

1201
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,760
Mountain and you still haven't
told me what we're doing here.

1202
01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:01,640
And then she says, because
you're not enough.

1203
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,720
And she yells it.
And at first I was like, is this

1204
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,920
like a dig at him and their
relationship?

1205
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,720
Like, Oh my God, Ivan's not
hearing you're not enough for

1206
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,240
me.
I knew exactly what she meant

1207
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,120
the first time.
Yeah, I, I, I realized that once

1208
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:20,360
it came out, because the way he
looked at her, I was like, OK,

1209
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,720
she didn't mean it in that kind
of way because I think he would

1210
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,520
have felt it if she meant it
that way.

1211
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:33,040
And she was like, look, when I
took this ring, I decided that I

1212
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,400
was going to be on the winning
end when this whole last battle

1213
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,040
thing comes, she said.
And you know what I realized

1214
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:43,080
when the Black Asha attacked?
They are ready and.

1215
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,760
We are not.
She said, And if nobody else is

1216
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,600
going to build an army, then I
will.

1217
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:54,200
And he said an army of what?
Farmers, She said The Dragon

1218
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,920
Reborn?
Iguain Armira.

1219
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,440
Naive.
The strongest hammer in the

1220
01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:04,320
last.
In the last 1000 years, she said

1221
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,360
they all, she said.
Even the horn blower, they all

1222
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:12,480
come from this place and she's
basically telling him, look,

1223
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:15,560
there's a lot of power here, we
just got to find it.

1224
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,560
So of course he gets up saying
he was like, look, he was like,

1225
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,360
I don't care about the last
battle.

1226
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,920
I don't care about ambulance, I
don't care about none of this

1227
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,600
shit.
He was like, the only thing I've

1228
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,520
ever cared about in my life is
Ivan and you.

1229
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,200
And if you're going to throw
your life away like you did his,

1230
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:35,560
I was like, why are we saying
these horrible things to each

1231
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,560
other?
He's still hurt.

1232
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,840
I know and I know but he was
like I'm here for you.

1233
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,200
I don't give a fuck about none
of this other stuff.

1234
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,640
But if you're going to throw
your your life away, I'm not

1235
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,000
going to stand here and watch.
I'm going to do what we should

1236
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,000
have done in the 1st place.
I'm going to go find Leandron

1237
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,640
and I'm going to go kill her.
And when he turns around to walk

1238
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,160
off she calls his name.
He turns around.

1239
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,560
He was like come go with me.
And you can see almost for a

1240
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,320
split second she was considering
it.

1241
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,120
Almost.
And then you see her make this

1242
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,080
face and she looks at him and
she was like, I turned off the

1243
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,760
bond.
I was like, why are y'all

1244
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,680
stabbing me in my heart today,
y'all?

1245
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,760
I don't like it, OK?
I don't like it when Alana and

1246
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,640
Maxim fight.
And I've noticed that in the

1247
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,320
last few episodes since we're
seeing more of them.

1248
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:31,560
Because when it was them and
Ivan, they all, when they

1249
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,160
disagreed, it was a humorous
disagree.

1250
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:40,320
It was playful, it was never
hurtful, it was never Oh my God,

1251
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,320
put stick the knife in and twist
it.

1252
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,560
And that's what I felt like with
these cop, this conversation and

1253
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,680
the conversation they had last
episode.

1254
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,880
So he leaves.
So why all this stuff is going

1255
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:56,200
down on down here in the camp.
Alana is making the cover now.

1256
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,400
I will say this, Alana, you
could have been a little more

1257
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:08,560
subtle because there is no way
all of that fog just immediately

1258
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,160
covers the camp and they don't
know that that's a channel or

1259
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,880
somewhere.
Yeah, there's no way.

1260
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:19,480
Yeah, and the thing about it is
they know how to ask a lie, so

1261
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,760
yeah.
And that's what they did.

1262
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:28,800
Because when Baldur sees the
fog, he was like, yeah, you know

1263
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:30,920
what?
That other witch, she was

1264
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,480
nothing and there's another
white cloak with him.

1265
01:19:33,480 --> 01:19:36,280
He was like, you want to go?
You want to go learn how to how

1266
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,240
to catch a real woman that can
channel.

1267
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:41,880
Yeah, let's go.
And I was like, please let her

1268
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,960
kill him.
But no, they actually get the

1269
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,440
drop on her because there's so
many of them.

1270
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:53,160
They surround her and I think
they know that the way the

1271
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,400
shield, they know how the
Shields work, so.

1272
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,800
So she's shielding herself in
the front because they have

1273
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,200
crossbows.
And as she shielded herself in

1274
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,040
the front, they're shooting her
in the back.

1275
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,560
So.
She takes several arrows, and

1276
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,720
then one of the white cloaks is
about to come in for the final

1277
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,160
kill.
Because she can't.

1278
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,480
She can't do anything.
She's got arrows sticking out of

1279
01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:19,440
her front, arrows sticking out
of her back, A.

1280
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:26,800
Human pincushion.
So she's about to get knifed or

1281
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:31,120
sorted, she's about to get
stabbed and here comes Max from

1282
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,920
fighting.
He starts fighting, he starts

1283
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,000
killing white clothes.
Now she got a few of the white

1284
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,560
clothes.
She she killed a few of them,

1285
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,600
but then he starts getting.
I was like y'all stressing me

1286
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,000
the fuck out in this damn
episode.

1287
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,040
Can y'all please stop shooting
the people I like please.

1288
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:52,480
We still have 3 episodes to go.
We can't kill everybody I like

1289
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:55,120
in the same episode.
That's just not about to happen.

1290
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,200
So then once they get all the
white clothes killed and she,

1291
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,280
she, you know, they crawl
towards each other.

1292
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,040
She was like, I'll let you know
where I was.

1293
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,360
He said you turned on the bond
five hours ago.

1294
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:16,000
I was like, OK, this is the kind
of disagreement or this is the

1295
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,120
kind of banter I want out of
Maxim and Alana.

1296
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,760
I don't want no more this, this,
this arguing shit.

1297
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,720
Cut that out, cut it out.
I don't need it.

1298
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:28,480
We got we got enough division
going on elsewhere in the

1299
01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:30,480
episode.
I don't need it from you too.

1300
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,600
Thank you.
And and, and for the people

1301
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:37,080
listening, yes, she took a lot
of arrows, but remember, because

1302
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,040
of the bond, she gets the health
boost.

1303
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,920
Yeah, these are stat boost, so
she can take it.

1304
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:46,560
I don't know.
That's a lot of arrows.

1305
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:53,480
That's a lot of arrows.
But I I need y'all to stop, stop

1306
01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:56,280
shooting my folks.
And I need Alana and Maxim to

1307
01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:00,480
stop arguing just, you know, and
it's so funny because even at

1308
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:03,800
the beginning of the episode,
she was trying to, she was

1309
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,640
trying to sew together one of
her dresses.

1310
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,880
And he was telling her, he said,
well, you can't put on one of

1311
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,560
the sacks that they wear around
here.

1312
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,040
And she just looked at him like,
whatever.

1313
01:22:14,440 --> 01:22:17,160
And he was like, yeah, he was
like, don't you like the shop

1314
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,640
and such and such?
And she was like, talking about

1315
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,840
leaving already.
I thought you were, you know, I

1316
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,200
thought you was flirting with
the with the Baker boy over

1317
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,120
there.
Now, the Baker boy was cute.

1318
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,280
He was like, yeah, but have you
tasted the bread?

1319
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,240
That bread was hard as a rock.
Who is eating this stuff in the

1320
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,240
Two Rivers?
Like what?

1321
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:39,560
So that's the kind of banter I
like from them.

1322
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,280
I don't.
I don't like all this arguing

1323
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,680
stuff.
I need y'all to, I don't know,

1324
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,000
y'all need to like sleep it off
like literally sleep it off

1325
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:53,480
apparently, because I I'm tired
of the arguing.

1326
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:59,160
Yeah, got yourselves killed.
Do you notice he wasn't a part

1327
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:03,960
of the Let's Catch Alana crew?
He was noticeably missing.

1328
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,520
Because, you know, I was hoping
I was like, oh, she'd kill her.

1329
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,840
She killed white clothes, white
right and left.

1330
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,600
Well, Valda motherfucker,
nowhere.

1331
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,360
And I think he did that on
purpose.

1332
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:15,520
He was like, yeah, you know
what?

1333
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,920
I'm going to send them up there
to catch her.

1334
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,480
He probably has never never been
around him.

1335
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,600
He he tells them what to do and
then he waits to see if they can

1336
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:29,160
do it, even if they're going to
see or not.

1337
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,880
No skin.
Also, I think probably I and you

1338
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,960
know, we know that he has killed
Isodai before.

1339
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,680
Maybe there was something about
what was going on.

1340
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:45,600
I don't know how he gauged it.
He saw the fog or whatever.

1341
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,520
He was like, Oh no, this is a
powerful one.

1342
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,440
I'm not going to touch her.
I'm going to let y'all do it.

1343
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:56,720
I think it's more likely that he
don't come in to the cock them

1344
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,160
to put them to the question or
burn them.

1345
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:04,360
I'm I'm pretty sure that's how
he operates.

1346
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,560
That's the only way a man like
that could survive as long as he

1347
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,600
has.
He didn't even mess with Inguane

1348
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:16,120
because she was tied up.
Yeah, yeah, he.

1349
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:21,640
Didn't need her to show him he
could she could channel so but

1350
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:22,920
yeah.
That motherfucker.

1351
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,040
Oh, and that's the other thing,
because when they walk into the

1352
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:34,800
camp, Parent notices he has
wolves heads on spike and you

1353
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,200
could just kind of see, you
could hear parent kind of, you

1354
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:47,960
know, he was just like, OK.
This so they Yeah, so they get

1355
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,520
the girls they.
Get the girls.

1356
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,360
Parent get the girls and take
them out of the camp.

1357
01:24:55,800 --> 01:25:02,920
So the parents sees Natty and
then they fight.

1358
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,200
They brawl.
Let me tell you.

1359
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,080
That I thought Dane was going to
die.

1360
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,760
I really did.
I did too, but I don't think,

1361
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:15,000
like, I don't think Paron wants
to kill him because I think

1362
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:20,560
Paron in a way understands why
Dane is doing what he's doing.

1363
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,480
But and I think he also probably
realizes that Dane wasn't the

1364
01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:32,200
one that put Natty to the torch.
I mean, he he's seen Valda do

1365
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:36,440
that before, so I think he's
probably like, you know what you

1366
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:41,040
would you were just in my way.
I'm I'm going to get the one who

1367
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,680
who really did it.
Which again, if Valda wasn't up

1368
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:49,640
on the on the cliffs with the
rest of the white cloaks trying

1369
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:54,000
to kill Alana and he missed the
whole fight down there in the

1370
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:59,600
camps, where the hell was he him
hiding happen.

1371
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:05,240
I'm hiding.
And then fire proceeds to kick

1372
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,560
everybody's ass.
Listen.

1373
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,720
See Black Widow, a couple of
them.

1374
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:19,040
Listen, I was like, and you
wanted to look kind of like they

1375
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,520
did with Wanda.
Why was she back there the whole

1376
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,440
time?
You wanted to leave her behind.

1377
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:29,240
Really.
Really, I mean I I kind of

1378
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:34,720
understand because when she when
they got the upper hand on her

1379
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:39,520
parents attention was distracted
because he was worried about her

1380
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:43,680
getting hurt.
So maybe that's why he put her

1381
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,320
back because we do know parent
parent got a thing for her.

1382
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:51,120
We saw that any Wayne's Little
Dream walking because Aaron was

1383
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:55,000
dreaming of a life in the two
rivers with by hills and Hopper,

1384
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,680
which made me sad but I was like
OK, yeah, but that girl can

1385
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,840
fight.
I can see why band and she I was

1386
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,960
like, we taking her to.
Yeah.

1387
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:14,400
But the whole thing with Maddie
being dead now made me even

1388
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,680
sadder later on in the episode
because when a Gwen is doing her

1389
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,680
dream walking and she's going
into all of her friends dreams,

1390
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,960
she's in Matt's dream.
And Matt is apparently at this

1391
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:33,040
point, he he is well off now and
he's he's talking to his sisters

1392
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,480
and he's telling them he was
like, yeah, you guys will never

1393
01:27:35,480 --> 01:27:37,440
have to sleep on the floor again
in your life.

1394
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:43,360
And he's happy And his mom comes
up to him and she says I'm proud

1395
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,520
of you.
And I started tearing up because

1396
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:50,240
I was like, this is his dream to
have his mom say she's proud of

1397
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:51,960
him.
And now he'll never get that

1398
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,920
chance.
Nope, the last thing he's going

1399
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:59,120
to remember of his mom was her
being angry and ugly when he

1400
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:04,800
left the Two Rivers and then the
visions that Ishmael showed him.

1401
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:09,040
And there was 1.
So, you know, I watch, I watch

1402
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:10,480
the show with closed
captionings.

1403
01:28:10,480 --> 01:28:12,680
And you know, sometimes the
closed caption is don't get it

1404
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:16,240
right.
So when he was having those

1405
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:20,600
visions of his mom being angry
at him, one of the lines that

1406
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,640
she said to him, it sounded
different, but the closed

1407
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:28,480
caption said something like,
you're a prick like him.

1408
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,120
And I was like, that's harsh for
her to say.

1409
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:37,920
But in this episode, he I think
there was a part where he was

1410
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,440
remembering something that she
said to him.

1411
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,360
And what she actually said was
don't give up like him.

1412
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:49,080
And I was like, oh, is that
because he's looking at it

1413
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:52,040
differently?
Or is that or is that what she

1414
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,160
actually said?
And Ishamael kind of twisted it

1415
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,680
when he was showing them the
fans like, oh, but that made me

1416
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,320
so sad because I was like, now
Matt is never going to be able

1417
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,160
to hear his mom say that.
She's never going to tell him

1418
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,680
she's proud of him.
And he's going to have to

1419
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,600
remember how ugly she was to
him.

1420
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:17,120
That made me sad because I was
like, OK, I didn't really care

1421
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,800
for her in the first episode
when we met her, but I could

1422
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,160
understand what she was going
through because I mean, you

1423
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:27,760
literally sitting here with
three children struggling and in

1424
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,360
your face, your husband is over
there trying to fornicate with

1425
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,480
another woman.
I, I can understand her being

1426
01:29:33,480 --> 01:29:34,920
bitter.
I can understand her being

1427
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:39,640
angry, especially because she
felt like Matt was starting to

1428
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,640
be like his father as far as the
gambling and stuff goes.

1429
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:46,480
But still it's like now Matt
will never get that needed

1430
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:49,560
validation from his mom because
I really think he he needs that.

1431
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:53,240
And I think that's one of the
reasons why he acts the way he

1432
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:57,440
does with other people as far as
like being a horn blower, the

1433
01:29:57,440 --> 01:30:01,040
bragging, wanting the the
admiration and.

1434
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,560
The Yeah.
Yeah, because he he didn't get

1435
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:09,240
it at home, but that made me
sad.

1436
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:15,800
But Speaking of Matt.
Oh, the Scooby-doo crew.

1437
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,840
Stuck in two.
Stuck in.

1438
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:26,920
No.
Excuse me, stuck in a small room

1439
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:35,760
on a rocking boat for two weeks
with someone who keeps throwing

1440
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,560
up.
I can't even imagine the smell

1441
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:42,960
in that cabin.
No, I'm sorry.

1442
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,200
I'm one of those people.
I'm one of those people.

1443
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,600
I don't.
I don't throw up a lot, like at

1444
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,760
all.
It's very, very rare.

1445
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:56,720
Even when my kids were little
and they got sick and they threw

1446
01:30:56,720 --> 01:31:00,240
up, I couldn't go near it
because I would start dry

1447
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,560
heaving and almost throw up.
So my ex-husband at the time

1448
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,800
when I was married, he would
always be the one to clean up

1449
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:08,400
that stuff because I couldn't do
it.

1450
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,400
I didn't have stomach for it.
I can't imagine being stuck in a

1451
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,880
room and not even an air
conditioned room or anything

1452
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,680
like that.
You are stuck on a medieval boat

1453
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,000
because that's what it looks
like.

1454
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:22,600
You are stuck.
You are stuck on the Jolly

1455
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,640
Roger.
You are stuck on the Black Pearl

1456
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,320
with someone who has been puking
their guts out for the last two

1457
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:30,640
weeks.
Like you've been on the boat for

1458
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,360
two weeks.
I know you haven't been eating a

1459
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,040
lot.
What the fuck are you bringing

1460
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:35,000
up from your stomach?
And.

1461
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,160
Well, funny was it like, oh,
they made to sit down here.

1462
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:41,040
Oh, I think it was because they
thought Naive would throw

1463
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,560
herself overboard and.
She was like, she was like, is

1464
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:49,440
that an option?
But it reminds me that's that's

1465
01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:51,520
how Jamie Fraser is on
Outlander.

1466
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:56,080
He he's he gets seasick too.
So it's the same thing.

1467
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,000
So I'm sitting here laughing.
Elaine is trying to give them a

1468
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:02,520
geography lesson on Tan Chico.
Matt is going off on her.

1469
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,960
Yeah, I'm sure you're not used
to traveling like this.

1470
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,040
You used to people hoisting you.
I was like, OK, yeah.

1471
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,960
Y'all have been in close
quarters way too long, way too

1472
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,560
long.
But Elaine said that was the

1473
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:17,160
only, that was the only promise
I made to the ship captain is

1474
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,280
that we will stay down here
during the course of the trip.

1475
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,240
But while they're traveling, she
happens to look outside.

1476
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:27,800
And she was like, hold up, we
shouldn't be passing this place

1477
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:29,360
yet.
We've only been on the boat for

1478
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,480
two weeks.
We're moving, but.

1479
01:32:31,480 --> 01:32:34,000
She's I know their their their
ships.

1480
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,680
Their ships are fast, but they
ain't.

1481
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,120
They shouldn't be this fast.
They shouldn't be this fast.

1482
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,240
And of course Matt is like, oh,
let's go investigate.

1483
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,280
We're going upstairs.
So they all go upstairs and it's

1484
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,880
all, not all women crew, but
it's mostly women crew.

1485
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,520
And I actually liked this
because, you know, anytime we're

1486
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:55,120
watching something about ships
and pirates or, you know, those

1487
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,640
types of things, it's always
men.

1488
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,920
And you know, the superstition
is always that it's bad luck to

1489
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:04,080
have a woman on the ship.
So they have all these different

1490
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,960
superstitions.
Or if you have a woman on the

1491
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,080
boat, they have to stay down in
the cabin, which I thought was

1492
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,120
why they were trying to keep
them down there.

1493
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:15,160
And I was just like, oh, so
woman captain, oh, it's a woman

1494
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:19,560
staring the butt.
Like, OK, all these powerful,

1495
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,800
powerful women of color.
I was here for it.

1496
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:26,400
I was like, yes, OK, come on,
come on.

1497
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:31,120
Being in charge.
And they start, they come down

1498
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,360
and they're like, y'all aren't
even supposed to be up here.

1499
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,520
Y'all supposed to be down below.
And she looks at 19.

1500
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,440
She said, OK, you're from the
mountains.

1501
01:33:38,440 --> 01:33:41,560
And then she starts telling her,
I guess about how to combat her

1502
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,280
sea sickness.
She was like, you plant your

1503
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:47,200
feet so firmly on the ground
that you don't give sway to

1504
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,240
anything else.
She was like, kind of loosen

1505
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:52,560
your legs and let the boat rock
while you stay in place.

1506
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:58,280
So she's giving her that
information and 19 starts to

1507
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,440
feel a little bit better and
they're having a conversation

1508
01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:03,960
with the ship captain.
They're like, OK, hey, can we

1509
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,680
just stay up here, like.
The sail mistress.

1510
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,400
The sail mistress that's.
What the I couldn't remember the

1511
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,440
word for yes, thank you sail
mistress.

1512
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,320
But they were like, can we stay
up here?

1513
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,480
And while Matt is over here
lounging, here's man, the

1514
01:34:17,480 --> 01:34:20,600
stowaway over here in the back,
and she tries to sneak to her

1515
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,960
room and Matt finds and he was
like, hey, can I come stay with

1516
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,640
you instead of them?
And she was like, no, you can't

1517
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,280
come into my cabin.
But of course, Matt follows her

1518
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,560
to her cabin.
Matt doesn't.

1519
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,240
Matt doesn't believe in
boundaries.

1520
01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:37,920
He doesn't, or maybe he does and
that's why he needed it, because

1521
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,880
he was like, I can't be in.
I can't be in this cabin with

1522
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,320
these two anymore.
Like there are no boundaries in

1523
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:45,880
here, so I need some kind of
boundaries.

1524
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,160
OK, Yeah, I'll go.
I'll go.

1525
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,920
Disturb your boundaries.
But while he's lounging in her

1526
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,600
hammock, she is furiously trying
to collect up all these papers

1527
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,080
that she has strewn around the
cabin.

1528
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:02,960
And he picks one up and it's a
drawing of him hanging the the

1529
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,480
vision that she saw back in Tar
Vilan.

1530
01:35:05,480 --> 01:35:07,600
And he was like, what is this?
And she was like, these are my

1531
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:13,240
visions, she said.
I figure if I can, if I can

1532
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:18,360
remember as many details, then
maybe I can do something to stop

1533
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:22,640
them from happening.
Matt's like, yeah, OK.

1534
01:35:23,480 --> 01:35:26,360
He was like, I'm not going to
kill myself, contrary to what

1535
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:30,000
you might think, or maybe I
won't kill myself.

1536
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,520
But he's like, OK.
And then she kind of lightens it

1537
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:34,400
up.
But you see him get back on the

1538
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,480
Hammond, and he kind of curls up
like a baby.

1539
01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:38,960
And I was like, I don't think
Matt likes.

1540
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:39,680
No.
Like.

1541
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,560
This is the second time he's
been shown a vision of him

1542
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,360
hanging himself because again,
it's Shamayo.

1543
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,800
That was one of the visions that
he saw and fall.

1544
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,160
Wait, wait, don't, don't, don't
say it that way.

1545
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:57,800
He didn't hang himself.
OK, well, OK, him hanging.

1546
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:01,280
OK, yes, him hanging, him
hanging of him hanging and.

1547
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:05,880
Also he he keeps pointing out
that her visions don't always

1548
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:11,840
come true.
But dude, you did stab Brand.

1549
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:15,320
Yeah.
It she she said you killed, but

1550
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:16,400
you don't.
Yeah.

1551
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:21,080
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yes, OK, let me change it.

1552
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:23,280
Because he was the one who was
like, I'm not going to kill

1553
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,040
myself.
But I was also thinking when he

1554
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:28,840
said that you hang, it doesn't
necessarily mean that you killed

1555
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,280
yourself, that it could mean
somebody killed you.

1556
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,080
So I was like, OK, I'm not going
to think that because again,

1557
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:36,600
we're not going to have none of
my people die.

1558
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,520
No, we're not doing that.
We've already had Ivan die this

1559
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:41,080
season.
That was that was the quota.

1560
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,200
We're not doing anything.
We're not doing anything.

1561
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:49,680
But so later on, on the boat,
Naive and Elaine are sleeping

1562
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,240
and Elaine wakes up because
there's light.

1563
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,440
You can see the light being
reflected on her face and she

1564
01:36:56,440 --> 01:37:01,600
looks up and the the woman who
was steering the boat earlier,

1565
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:06,040
she's actually moving the boat
faster because she's channeling.

1566
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:13,480
And when I say her movements
were so beautiful because she

1567
01:37:13,480 --> 01:37:20,000
looked like she was in the midst
of a dance, it was so beautiful.

1568
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,960
It was so like it was, it was
big.

1569
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,760
It was just kind of all over the
place.

1570
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,480
You look, you look almost like
the Northern Lights.

1571
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,800
Yes, it did.
And Elaine wakes up naive.

1572
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:36,400
And then the ship mistress comes
to talk to them.

1573
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:41,440
They're like, This is why we
told you to stay down because,

1574
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,320
you know, we didn't want you to
see this.

1575
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:49,120
And Elaine said something to her
about why, you know, if you're

1576
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:54,040
if what do what do they call
them wave riders or something

1577
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:54,920
like that?
I think she's.

1578
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,360
Wind finders.
Wind finders.

1579
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,360
So she was like, if your wind
finders can channel, why don't

1580
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,880
you go to the tower to learn
with what they know?

1581
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:10,760
And her response?
She said there's more than one

1582
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:14,160
way to channel.
There's more than one way to be

1583
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:18,680
a woman.
And I was like, I feel like she

1584
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:23,600
said that for Nineve's benefit
because she realized Nineve has

1585
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,000
a block.
You know, she said.

1586
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,160
She said you can't touch the
source.

1587
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:33,520
And I need says I can touch it.
I just don't have any control

1588
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,520
over when I can touch it.
She said, of course not.

1589
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:38,600
Channeling is like, what did she
say?

1590
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,400
Channeling is like the sea.
You're not supposed to control

1591
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,880
it.
And she said, I can tell you

1592
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:48,040
now, she said you're a person
who doesn't like to give, who

1593
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:49,680
doesn't like to let go of
control.

1594
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,880
And Elaine kind of Snickers
because she's like, yeah, this

1595
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,800
is true.
She was like, I see it in both

1596
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,440
of y'all.
She said you don't like to give

1597
01:38:56,440 --> 01:38:59,120
up control.
And then you over here, you're

1598
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:00,920
trying.
What did she say you are trying

1599
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,480
to run away from?
From the path.

1600
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,400
You're on or you're trying to
change the path you're on.

1601
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:14,880
And Elaine looks at her like I
didn't tell you to analyze, but

1602
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,200
yeah, when?
When?

1603
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:20,280
They they send weak, they send
weak channelers to the tower.

1604
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:25,600
I think it's like 1A year just
just to placate them and show

1605
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,880
them that yeah, we're we're weak
channelers.

1606
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:31,640
Yeah, yeah, because nine, what
does Nanny say?

1607
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:36,560
She said they they say that.
They say that your women are too

1608
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,480
weak in the source.
And she was like, yeah, that's

1609
01:39:39,480 --> 01:39:42,720
what we want y'all to think.
It would be actually very

1610
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,400
powerful.
I I can tell.

1611
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,080
Yeah.
And then she tells Neneve and

1612
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,680
Elaine she was like, so we, we
really don't want your tower to

1613
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:51,880
know this.
And they're like, no, we're not

1614
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,080
going to tell anyone.
But like I said, I feel like

1615
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:56,000
that was something Neneve needed
to see.

1616
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,280
Yeah, and but the other side of
that is I think the cell

1617
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:03,280
mistress thinks their eyes to
die and thinks they can't lie.

1618
01:40:04,440 --> 01:40:08,280
And so that's why she wanted to
make sure and also.

1619
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:10,400
The Sea Folk.
You're not supposed to break

1620
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:11,640
your bargain with the Sea Folk.
That's.

1621
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:13,840
What you mean?
It makes you pay for it.

1622
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:16,240
The sea folk are very
interesting.

1623
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:21,440
The Athan Mahir said that right?
The Athan Mahir.

1624
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:25,920
Bless you.
The Athan Mahir.

1625
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:31,280
The Athan Mahir OK, yes, the.
SEA I don't know, this isn't a

1626
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:35,480
spoiler but all the groups do.
They have a prophecy as well.

1627
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:37,520
Yeah, OK.
Yep, you said something about

1628
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:38,840
all the groups have their own
profits.

1629
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:42,960
And there's is the core more
they're waiting for the core

1630
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:44,720
more.
OK.

1631
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,480
He's the one that's going to
lead them to glory and to

1632
01:40:47,480 --> 01:40:52,760
control all of the Seas but.
And they will swear their

1633
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:55,920
allegiance to him for the last
battle when he comes.

1634
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:02,280
So is that the same as the Kar
Khan or is this maybe a

1635
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:07,120
different person that they're?
All the prophecies point to the

1636
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:11,880
same person reborn the core
more.

1637
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:16,720
The Kharkar is the person we all
need to follow for the last

1638
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,280
battle.
OK.

1639
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:23,840
Everybody has a prophecy of the
one who is going to lead them

1640
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:28,520
into the last battle.
OK, so so the reason why I ask

1641
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:32,040
that is because, and I know this
is probably like so far fetched,

1642
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,560
but again, I've not read the
books so I don't know exactly

1643
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,880
how the story goes.
But I'm one of those people who

1644
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:45,880
like, I like quest and I like
stories about chosen ones and

1645
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,080
all of that.
But I also like stories where

1646
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:55,720
instead of it being one person
doing this grand big thing by

1647
01:41:55,720 --> 01:42:04,240
themselves, it turns out that
they need a core group to do

1648
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:07,640
different things, but they all
achieve the same purpose.

1649
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,520
So in my mind, I'm just
wondering, OK, you have all

1650
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:14,480
these different prophecies and
they call them all these

1651
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:16,800
different things.
And this person is going to do

1652
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,400
this and this person is going to
do this.

1653
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,000
And obviously all these people
can't be in the same place at

1654
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,000
the same time doing all these
things.

1655
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:27,360
So I'm just like, OK, so is it
that Karen is going to be the

1656
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,080
one to lead such and such?
And then maybe Matt is going to

1657
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:35,600
be the one to lead such?
I'm I'm thinking of a I'm

1658
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:39,280
thinking of Voltron.
I'm thinking of five parts of

1659
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:43,920
something coming together to
create this one powerful being.

1660
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,400
And I'll obviously I know
they're not going to merge, but

1661
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,840
I'm just kind of that that's
kind of how I want it to be.

1662
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,720
Like I want it to be that.
OK, yeah, Rand is the Dragon

1663
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,680
Reborn, but he can't be the
Dragon Reborn without his

1664
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:58,520
friends.
Like that's the reason why I'm

1665
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:02,240
forsaken are trying to turn
they're his friends to the dark

1666
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:06,280
because they want him to follow
because you know, so that's

1667
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:07,520
that's just.
So the.

1668
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:10,320
Kind of thing I like.
I have two references for you.

1669
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,600
OK.
The first is I can't remember

1670
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,160
which Terminator movie it was,
but remember it was moved where

1671
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,960
the Terminator said fine we
can't kill John Connor.

1672
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:27,000
So they went back to kill his
lieutenants because the

1673
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,920
terminate, the Skynet believed
if he killed his lieutenants.

1674
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,440
I think that was, I can't
remember which.

1675
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:35,080
Huh.
Was it the?

1676
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:41,160
Maybe it was the third one, but
yeah, they sent, they sent

1677
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:45,920
Terminators back to kill his
lieutenants because they feel

1678
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:48,800
like if they kill his
lieutenants then he won't be

1679
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:49,960
able to win.
OK.

1680
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:54,840
OK, and also I mentioned this
before about Harry Potter.

1681
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:04,760
The the main person, the chosen
1, still needs the support of

1682
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,760
the people around him.
He couldn't destroy the last

1683
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,040
four crooks.
Someone else had to do that.

1684
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,120
He couldn't fight the battle by
himself.

1685
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,320
He needed other people to do
that for him, right?

1686
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:21,960
This is very similar to that.
OK, but since you brought up

1687
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,760
Harry Potter, you know I have to
bring up the fact that the

1688
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:30,080
prophecy could have referred to
one other person and not.

1689
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:32,120
Necessarily necessary business
being on.

1690
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:35,520
That oh OK that could be that
could be the case in the wheel

1691
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:40,320
of town like OK yeah Rand is the
drag the dragon reborn, but this

1692
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,440
person over here is going to be
the one that's going to get the

1693
01:44:42,440 --> 01:44:47,440
shit done so I'm.
Just he he needs the same way

1694
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:52,080
the wheel spin out a with all
the tools that he needs to get

1695
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,440
his job done.
Yeah.

1696
01:44:55,680 --> 01:45:02,320
OK.
Yeah, yeah, because his battle

1697
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:08,880
is not with the Forsaken, his
battle is with the Dark One.

1698
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,240
Yeah.
Let me say that again.

1699
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:14,520
I.
I I know.

1700
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:16,480
His battle is not with the
Forsaken.

1701
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:22,360
There there's nothing.
His battle, the real battle, is

1702
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:25,800
with the Dark One.
OK, let everybody else deal with

1703
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:27,800
all the other stuff.
Yeah, yeah.

1704
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:31,760
Let them fight the Forsaken, Let
them fight the the Trollix.

1705
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,320
He can do that in his sleep.
OK.

1706
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:38,040
That's that's not but that's not
what he's that's not what his

1707
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:43,000
intention his his job at the
last battle is to face the Dark

1708
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,480
One.
No one else can do that.

1709
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:48,120
Yeah, only the Dragon Reborn can
do that.

1710
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:52,880
Only the Dragon Reborn OK.
And the core more the it's the

1711
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:57,280
sea folks prophecy.
The Jindai prophecy says the

1712
01:45:57,280 --> 01:46:00,520
core more will come with the
breaking of the world again.

1713
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,200
And the Sea Folk must be there
to see the world remake.

1714
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:14,760
OK, so OK, there was another
question I was about to ask but

1715
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:19,520
Oh no I wasn't.
So they arrive in Tan Chico,

1716
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:24,840
they get off the boat and of
course, men, you know, she is

1717
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:29,440
introduced to Naive and Elaine
and Matt's like OK, so she's

1718
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:31,120
going to go with us and blah
blah blah.

1719
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,880
She feels like she has a debt to
pay and they're like, are we

1720
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:37,600
sure we can trust her?
And she was like, look, have

1721
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:41,560
y'all been to Tan Chico?
No, guess what I have.

1722
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,960
And I said that.
I said I bet you man's been to

1723
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:47,280
Tan Chico because man, just hop
on a she just hop on a cart and

1724
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:50,720
be everywhere.
How you go from fall Dara to

1725
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:57,760
farm or fall down to Tarvalon to
farm back to Tarvalon.

1726
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:00,960
Now you intend she go?
Yeah, men gets around, she gets

1727
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:05,000
around and even I need was like
I met you in fall down.

1728
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,040
You're the one who told Rand he
was the dragon.

1729
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:13,880
She's like, yeah, so about that.
But when they get off the boat

1730
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:16,680
and she's giving them
instructions, she was like, OK,

1731
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,520
don't do this.
Don't look people in the eye.

1732
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:21,640
Don't hold your money out.
She's giving them all these

1733
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:23,640
instructions.
And they're walking past.

1734
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:26,720
Matt happens to notice something
on the side.

1735
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:32,000
And he looks up and there is a
man hanging there on the docks.

1736
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:39,160
And I was just like, Matt even
look like, OK, we're going to

1737
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:42,160
keep walking.
Like he was like, I'm not, I'm

1738
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,680
not paying attention to this.
I'm not even about to put this

1739
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:45,560
in my mind.
OK.

1740
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:48,000
He obviously did something that
he deserved it for.

1741
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:50,600
We're going to go this way.
I'm not going to pay attention

1742
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,640
to this.
But I was just like, I don't

1743
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,920
like the foreshadowing here.
I don't.

1744
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:58,440
Because are you trying to tell
me that, Matt, that somebody's

1745
01:47:58,440 --> 01:48:00,520
going to try to kill Matt and
Tan Chico?

1746
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:05,360
I mean, if it's really as
dangerous a place as they're

1747
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,640
making it sound.
I mean, men say don't look

1748
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,040
nobody in the eye.
All right, wait a second.

1749
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:12,760
Where are we at?
Right.

1750
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:14,400
Like am I supposed to walk like
this?

1751
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,840
Just follow the feet in front of
me and I'll be OK.

1752
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,320
Don't flash the money.
Don't look nobody in the eye.

1753
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,000
Don't talk too loud.
Don't talk too loud.

1754
01:48:26,440 --> 01:48:29,160
Damn.
Like what can I do?

1755
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,840
And, and I know she said that.
Don't talk too loud, Matt.

1756
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:35,760
This this pertains to you.
Keep your mouth shut.

1757
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,040
I'll be going around telling
everybody you're the horn

1758
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:42,800
blower.
Just just be quiet.

1759
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:46,200
Me.
No think me no speaking English.

1760
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:50,000
Just don't talk.
Don't don't do nothing.

1761
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,120
But I was like, OK, well,
they're getting a little bit

1762
01:48:53,120 --> 01:49:01,160
closer to to Leandro.
Oh, but hold on.

1763
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:02,960
I'm trying to think.
I don't remember what happened

1764
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:06,160
at the end end of this episode.
Was that was that the end them

1765
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:08,400
them arriving in Tan Chico?
Oh, no, no, no.

1766
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:12,600
The end was Elaine jumping in
everybody's dreams, which we put

1767
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,080
on earlier.
Yeah, we.

1768
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:19,480
Did the only one we didn't talk
about was 90s nineties which?

1769
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:21,760
Yeah.
There isn't really been say

1770
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:23,600
about that.
Of course she's going to dream

1771
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,680
about that.
Yeah, but.

1772
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,920
And and then we talked a little
bit about well, we didn't talk

1773
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,720
about someone and.
Yeah, that's why that's where I

1774
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:33,880
was about to go.
Yeah.

1775
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:38,240
So, OK, so we're going to move
from Tan Chico and we're going

1776
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:44,080
to go back to the IEO waste
because again, we've we talked

1777
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:48,280
about Rand and E Gwaine and E
Gwaine has been working with

1778
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:53,760
Bear and Milan on, you know,
going to tell around Riyadh.

1779
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:59,920
We saw her have one attack by
landfill once last once landfill

1780
01:49:59,920 --> 01:50:02,440
realized she was there, she was
like, oh, I'm so glad you're

1781
01:50:02,440 --> 01:50:04,600
here.
And I was just like, no, don't,

1782
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:07,920
don't be glad she's there.
Don't no, let's let's not do

1783
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:13,800
this.
So like we said, Moraine asks E

1784
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,000
Wayne.
She was like, OK, so they've

1785
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,480
been teaching you how to go in
and out of dreams.

1786
01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:21,560
Can you can you take me?
I there's a message that I have

1787
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:26,440
to deliver and Wayne is telling
her about it being dangerous.

1788
01:50:26,440 --> 01:50:30,920
And she was like, OK, so I told
you this two years ago or a few

1789
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:32,560
years ago.
So now you're telling me she was

1790
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:35,200
like, I understand, but this is
important.

1791
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:36,960
And Wayne said, is it worth the
risk?

1792
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,040
Does it have anything to do with
what you learned?

1793
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:43,720
And Rewidian and Lorraine says
yes, So she takes her to the Hut

1794
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:47,680
that you know, so one and she
kind of share.

1795
01:50:48,440 --> 01:50:51,880
And so they have this
conversation, and this is

1796
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:57,720
another one where, again, I feel
like I'm getting more out of

1797
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:01,640
their interactions now than I
did when we first found out they

1798
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:06,440
were together.
So she comes in and she tells

1799
01:51:06,440 --> 01:51:10,480
someone that she's, you know,
been through the the rings at

1800
01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:13,520
Ruidian.
And that's when Suwan figures

1801
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:15,920
out she's in the IO way.
So she was like, you're in the

1802
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:20,960
IO way.
So she was like, yeah, so there

1803
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,800
are two things.
Like there are two things.

1804
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:30,800
If the Tower does not bend the
knee to Rand al Thor, he will

1805
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:34,200
lose the last battle.
And someone is like, oh, and

1806
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:36,920
then Moraine is like and yeah,
that's it.

1807
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:38,840
Like, excuse me, bitch, I can
count.

1808
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:41,120
You said two things.
That was 1.

1809
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:43,080
What else are you not telling
me?

1810
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:46,960
Then she proceeded to distract
someone with other stuff so she

1811
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:50,080
wouldn't ask her about.
Well, I mean, but it's

1812
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:52,960
conversation they needed to have
because of course she's still

1813
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,440
upset with someone.
And someone was like, what would

1814
01:51:55,440 --> 01:51:57,840
you have me do when I was in
Kyrie?

1815
01:51:57,840 --> 01:51:59,240
And she was like, I had no other
choice.

1816
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:00,360
She said.
What would you have done?

1817
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:04,520
And Maria was like, what you did
probably worse.

1818
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:10,360
I mean, you know, and and that's
what's the one like, sits down.

1819
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:11,840
She tells her she was like, you
know what?

1820
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:19,360
Oh no, because Moraine says, she
says to her, she said you and I

1821
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:23,120
both had a job.
My job was to find the Dragon

1822
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:26,120
Reborn.
Your job was to get the tower

1823
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:29,000
ready.
And you are not prepared.

1824
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:35,160
And obviously someone is hurt by
that because DOI is true.

1825
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,600
Y'all ain't even thinking about
the dragon in that way because

1826
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:42,040
you sitting here trying to
figure out who, who the, you

1827
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:44,840
know, Black Asha are.
And Lorraine tells her she was

1828
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:50,160
like, look, you don't have any
time to to not get this right.

1829
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:53,040
And I was like, oh, that sounds
so familiar because someone said

1830
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:56,880
the same thing to her.
And Karian, she was like, you

1831
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,240
should have, he should have been
trained and you should have had

1832
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:02,720
him ready to fight.
Lorraine's been a little bit

1833
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:07,680
busy too, but at this point
they're having that conversation

1834
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:10,960
and Moraine is like, look, you
have to get the tower ready.

1835
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,320
You can't afford to make another
mistake.

1836
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,960
And so I was just like, I just
wish we would have taken them.

1837
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:21,400
We taking some horses or I wish
we wouldn't have gone into

1838
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:25,840
what's her name's room.
Yeah, we could have just taken

1839
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,560
some horses and gone.
And then she tries to kiss

1840
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,160
Moraine.
Moraine was like, no, we broke

1841
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:34,320
what we had.
This is this is over.

1842
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,120
She was like, there's no fixing
this in this life.

1843
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,720
And this one's like, OK, well,
I'll just find you in the next

1844
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:45,480
life or the next or the next or
the next until we get it right.

1845
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:49,200
And Lorraine is like, and I'll
wait for you in every life.

1846
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:51,240
And then she tells someone she
loves her.

1847
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:55,480
But I was like, this is what is
Shameel was talking about.

1848
01:53:55,680 --> 01:54:02,560
Like I under I understand the
concept of loving someone so

1849
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,000
much that you're like, oh, I
would be with you in every

1850
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:12,520
lifetime, but at the same time,
what if there's something better

1851
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,320
for you out there in the next
life?

1852
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:17,160
You know, what if there are
other opportunities?

1853
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:19,560
What if there are other?
Like what if you're supposed to

1854
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,440
be doing something else, but you
just keep wasting?

1855
01:54:22,440 --> 01:54:26,080
I won't even say wasting, but
you just keep doing the same

1856
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:30,800
thing over and over and over.
The the benefit of it is you

1857
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:35,280
don't remember.
That's it's Shamel's fault that

1858
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:38,160
he figured out a way to remember
his previous slides.

1859
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,720
That's on him.
Repeat what you just said.

1860
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:48,520
That's on on Ishmael for.
Before you said that, you said

1861
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:52,080
the benefit of that is.
You don't remember your previous

1862
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:58,680
life.
Does that does that apply to

1863
01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:02,000
Rand al Thor as well as far as
land fear goes?

1864
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:09,760
There are reasons is is
different.

1865
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:22,440
If you are the person who went
mad and is tainted, there's

1866
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:24,080
there's.
I just had to do it.

1867
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:27,680
Well, there's something there's
something that's kind of missing

1868
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:37,200
and from the show and from Rand
that hopefully it's coming, but

1869
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,160
aligning with the books, it
should be soon.

1870
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:43,600
OK.
It should start happening to

1871
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:47,960
him.
OK, it's not yet, but maybe when

1872
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:51,200
he starts chowing more it'll
start happening.

1873
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:54,200
OK, Yeah, I just had to mess
with you about that because we,

1874
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:56,760
I know we've had can't remember
your previous life.

1875
01:55:57,400 --> 01:56:03,760
Yeah, Yeah.
But, and I think it is, I think

1876
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:07,480
they're suddenly because they do
a lot of subtle hinting on the

1877
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:08,800
show.
They really do you.

1878
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:10,960
Don't know.
If you don't know what to be

1879
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:15,640
looking for, you'll miss it.
And there's been a couple of

1880
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:20,440
times when I could tell
something was happening to rent,

1881
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:29,080
but they're not really.
Yeah, it's not explicit.

1882
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:31,960
And as fast as they're moving
with the Gwen with the dream

1883
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,440
walking, I thought they would
move faster with the other

1884
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:35,560
thing.
OK.

1885
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:37,520
And but we'll talk about that
later.

1886
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:39,720
OK, when it when it gets to that
point.

1887
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:42,600
Yeah.
OK, OK.

1888
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:48,480
Yeah, so we got couples
fighting, couples kind of sort

1889
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,800
of making up.
I don't think Moraine and Suwan

1890
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:52,160
are going to be one of those
couples.

1891
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:57,000
And then, of course, after after
that, this is where we get to a

1892
01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:00,640
Wayne dream walking because
she's trying to give Moraine and

1893
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:04,640
Swan some privacy as they
discuss whatever Moraine comes

1894
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:07,600
to discuss.
So we talked about it early.

1895
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:12,440
She sees Paren.
Paren is, you know, at his forge

1896
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:14,520
in the Two Rivers.
File is with him.

1897
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:16,240
So is Hopper.
And he looks happy.

1898
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:18,960
And she looks kind of surprised
because she was like, oh, you

1899
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:21,800
went home and found someone
like, OK, good for you parent.

1900
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:25,680
We talked about Matt with his
mother and his sisters.

1901
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:32,920
She sees she's on the boat and
she sees Elaine, and Elaine is

1902
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:36,280
one of the wind finders.
She's sitting there and she's.

1903
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:38,200
Yeah, of.
Course, Elaine's dreaming about

1904
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,720
that.
She's dreaming about that, and

1905
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:45,280
then Ivanda shows up in her
Maiden of the Spear outfit and

1906
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:49,320
she looks more like Ivanda to me
because I was like, it's almost

1907
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:50,680
like they're two different
people.

1908
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:55,960
The change from the Maiden of
the Spirit of the Under to Wise.

1909
01:57:56,400 --> 01:58:00,320
I think also with her being the
Wise 1, I don't think she has on

1910
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:05,440
any eye makeup and she she has
like a little bit of eyeliner

1911
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,640
when she's in the Maiden
costumes.

1912
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:10,920
I think that's one of the things
that makes her different.

1913
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:14,680
But of course she's dreaming of
that and she's happy.

1914
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:21,080
Naive is at the stream in the
Two Rivers and she is with her

1915
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:25,360
daughter teaching her how to
feel the wind just like she did

1916
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:30,000
with E Gwen.
And I was just like y'all keep

1917
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,240
tearing my heart out this
episode please stop.

1918
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:33,680
Come on, come on, Get to the
good one.

1919
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:37,160
Get to the good one.
Then we get to the last one.

1920
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:41,880
Rand is on his mountain.
Then we didn't talk about him

1921
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:44,040
and land for you having a
conversation, right?

1922
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:46,120
Yeah, because she she confessed
that she loved him.

1923
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:50,960
So Rand is on the mountain.
She sees him, and then all of a

1924
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:56,440
sudden she sees a woman's hand
come up to his neck.

1925
01:58:56,640 --> 01:59:00,560
And she gets startled and it's
Landfair kissing Ran.

1926
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:04,800
And when she turns her head,
she's looking directly at a

1927
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:06,920
Gwaine.
And a Gwaine has this

1928
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:11,280
recollection of all the times
this woman has been in her

1929
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:13,840
dreams, even the times when she
thought it was Rena.

1930
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:15,640
Now she's seeing Landfair's
face.

1931
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:18,720
It's like now that Landfair has
made herself known to her, she

1932
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:22,240
realizes that that's who's been
in her dreams the whole time.

1933
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:25,800
She left out a screen and then
the fucking episode goes up.

1934
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:31,560
I was like, y'all muff.
So you know, it's about to be

1935
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:34,880
some, it's about to be some
drama.

1936
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,920
Like I think Brandon Iguan are
about to break up for real now

1937
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:44,000
because what, you're kissing the
bitch that's been trying to kill

1938
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:47,960
me and tell her?
She don't know how she's been I.

1939
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:53,520
Know, but I can guarantee you
she ain't thinking about that.

1940
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:57,240
She's like, you're first of all,
who is this bitch that you're

1941
01:59:57,240 --> 01:59:59,200
kissing?
Because as far as I know, I'm

1942
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,080
the only woman that's been in
your life.

1943
02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:05,160
Let's start there.
First of all, let's not be tapes

1944
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:08,480
in through men's dreams.
That well, that too.

1945
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:12,440
That too, like you said, you,
you know, you, you're doing this

1946
02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:15,560
without permission.
So you might see some things

1947
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:17,440
that you don't like is a good
thing.

1948
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:20,720
She didn't see them in the in
the little the little end.

1949
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:25,040
She does that in the books too.
You talk about Matt not having

1950
02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:27,600
boundaries and Gwen had no
boundaries.

1951
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:28,400
Really.
And they?

1952
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:32,880
Told her don't do it, it's very
private and personal and she's

1953
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:43,960
like, yeah, no, I got I'm good,
you know, E Wayne as as a.

1954
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:46,240
So, you know, I don't even like
it when landfill does it.

1955
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:49,080
So the fact that E Wayne is
doing that, I'm like, these are

1956
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:53,080
people that you love.
Even even the Forsaken sort of

1957
02:00:53,080 --> 02:00:57,160
had some decorum about it.
Wayne didn't care.

1958
02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:01,560
That's bad when you say the
Forsaken have manners and she

1959
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:03,040
doesn't.
She doesn't.

1960
02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:04,600
She didn't.
No, she didn't.

1961
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:07,000
She really didn't.
She becomes a bitch.

1962
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:10,160
I'm just going to tell you now.
She turns to a bitch.

1963
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:19,920
In the books she does.
I'm going to be honest, I can

1964
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:23,520
see it, especially after the way
she handled Swan and the other

1965
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:26,280
sisters when she went through
the arches.

1966
02:01:26,920 --> 02:01:30,240
Yeah, I can see it.
I can.

1967
02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:38,120
OK, I can't believe she did
that.

1968
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:43,800
That's just like I said, I
understand.

1969
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:46,360
You want to see, you know,
you're missing your friends.

1970
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:48,600
You want to see them.
You want to make sure they're

1971
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:51,080
OK.
And right now, that is the only

1972
02:01:51,080 --> 02:01:53,640
way that you can do that.
I I get it.

1973
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:59,400
Yeah, I think I remember.
I feel like I remember the one

1974
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:04,560
of the first lessons they taught
her was dreams are very personal

1975
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:07,400
and private and you really don't
want to go into that.

1976
02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:11,080
And here's the thing, that
shouldn't be something that she

1977
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:14,760
has to be taught.
Yeah, because how would she feel

1978
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:17,920
if Ran just walked up?
Well, I mean, she probably,

1979
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:21,200
she's probably dreaming about
Ran half the time anyway, so she

1980
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:24,680
probably wouldn't care.
But still it's like, why would

1981
02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:27,000
you do that?
You know, don't do that.

1982
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:31,040
It was it was easy for her
because she's a dream Walker.

1983
02:02:31,280 --> 02:02:39,000
It's easy for them to do.
Now I guess my question is, as a

1984
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:44,800
dream Walker, do the other
people see her in their dreams?

1985
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:49,600
Not sure.
I think there might be.

1986
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:55,560
It might be a conscious choice.
OK.

1987
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:58,640
Or I was going to say, can she
allow them to see her and

1988
02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:01,480
they're just like, if she really
she would see her OK.

1989
02:03:02,120 --> 02:03:06,080
Sure, because if she need talk
to him or give him a message,

1990
02:03:06,080 --> 02:03:07,440
yeah.
OK.

1991
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:14,120
But if she was sneaking around,
trying to gather information,

1992
02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:18,160
trying to eavesdrop on people,
then no, they wouldn't see her.

1993
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:24,320
And see, that's that's the.
Yeah, that sounds so wrong it.

1994
02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:30,400
Does I mean I can see how it can
be useful like OK, I can go jump

1995
02:03:30,400 --> 02:03:32,440
in this dream and see what this
bad person is doing.

1996
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:35,000
If I know this person is a black
actual, I can do that.

1997
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:40,920
But that that's where your
morals come in, because even

1998
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:44,480
though yes, these are bad
people, these are people who

1999
02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:48,840
probably could be fighting
something evil whatever.

2000
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:53,800
If you can't have respect for
them in their inside their own

2001
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:56,960
mind, then you don't have
respect.

2002
02:03:57,120 --> 02:04:00,120
I mean, it's just just because
they're bad, that doesn't give

2003
02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:03,160
you that, right?
Even though I know there are

2004
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:05,360
times where we'll probably be
like, oh, they they're bad.

2005
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:11,480
They did this, they did that.
I think I don't.

2006
02:04:11,480 --> 02:04:14,400
Know, even even if it's not
right that Rand is fooling

2007
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:17,520
around to her in her dreams,
it's still it doesn't make it

2008
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:22,280
any more right for her to go
into his dream and peep in on

2009
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:26,880
him.
And just because you can, does

2010
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:28,760
it mean?
You should, yeah.

2011
02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:35,680
But here's the other thing.
Why are you trying to sneak up

2012
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:39,240
and spend time with him in his
dreams, but you're not spending

2013
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:47,200
time with him in real life?
I'm just saying if I have a

2014
02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:50,960
choice between, I mean, I, I
guess, you know, a person can

2015
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,400
touch, you can touch a person in
their dreams or whatever.

2016
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:57,440
So maybe it's not that different
in that sense.

2017
02:04:57,440 --> 02:05:02,480
But if I have to choose between
being in a dream with someone or

2018
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:05,880
being with them in real life and
you know, you know that there's

2019
02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:08,520
issues, you know, that there's
kind of a strain on the

2020
02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:10,400
relationship.
You know, there's a divide.

2021
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:14,040
And you know, there's something
that you might either need to

2022
02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:19,520
fix or you need to just kind of
get it out there and say, OK,

2023
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:23,040
this is not working anymore.
We need to just end this, be be

2024
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:26,560
clean about it.
But you want to go visit him in

2025
02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:28,320
his dreams.
You could you could have walked

2026
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:31,720
back to the tent to visit him.
I mean, I, I guess if you're

2027
02:05:31,720 --> 02:05:34,480
sitting there waiting for
Moraine to get done and tell her

2028
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:37,400
on Riyadh, we don't know what
happened with her and Swan after

2029
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:39,800
she actually consented to that
kiss.

2030
02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:41,800
They could be in there fooling
around right now.

2031
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:45,960
And Iguan is just like, OK, how
long am I going to have to wait?

2032
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:49,600
She's finding things to do
because you don't want to leave

2033
02:05:49,600 --> 02:05:52,280
Moraine and tell her on Riyadh
by herself.

2034
02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:54,200
Right, Right.
But.

2035
02:05:55,160 --> 02:05:57,600
I'm not sure if they're in turn
around Riyad or they're in

2036
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:00,200
Salon's dream.
Oh, it's in Salon's dream.

2037
02:06:00,240 --> 02:06:04,200
Yeah.
But yeah, I don't.

2038
02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:07,680
I don't like the way that I
don't like the way that's going.

2039
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:12,200
But I bet she was.
So effortlessly.

2040
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,680
So effortlessly.
Yeah, what was it Milan said?

2041
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:19,680
She was like, she she learns too
fast and, and Milan seems to

2042
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:23,360
have a problem with how fast
Elaine Iguane is picking that up

2043
02:06:24,440 --> 02:06:27,320
because she said something about
that when she came back after

2044
02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:29,760
Landfill tried to kill her in In
the dream.

2045
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:31,680
She was like, she learns too
fast.

2046
02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:35,960
She takes too much on too quick.
It was like, wouldn't you want

2047
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:38,920
her to learn fast so she could
learn how to defend herself?

2048
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:42,120
No, because then she does stupid
shit like.

2049
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:49,040
This like this, Yeah, yeah, so.
So I I gave this episode, it's a

2050
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:55,760
solid 8.5 is really an info dump
the right position a lot it it

2051
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:59,400
wasn't even like set up.
It was just a lot of lore, you

2052
02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:02,200
know, a lot of background
information and whatnot.

2053
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:03,200
So.
Except.

2054
02:07:03,280 --> 02:07:06,720
It was still pretty good.
Except for the the 2 river

2055
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:08,600
stuff.
The 2 river stuff is.

2056
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:13,680
Well, they finally answered the
question.

2057
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:17,040
A lot of them answered the
question while she was there.

2058
02:07:18,080 --> 02:07:19,800
Yeah.
She was there, a raising army.

2059
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:22,760
An army.
Is he a raising army?

2060
02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:25,400
But can we not get shot with
arrows first?

2061
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:27,400
Because you can't raise the army
if you're dead?

2062
02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:29,720
I need you to be a little more
mindful.

2063
02:07:29,720 --> 02:07:33,600
A lot of when Maxim tells you
that you got white clothes down

2064
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:35,320
there, you don't think they're
going to sniff out some

2065
02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:37,400
channeling?
Listen to the man.

2066
02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:41,000
Yeah.
Oh, saddle with the with the

2067
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:43,440
cloud cover.
We had to have some action, but

2068
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:46,080
other than that, this is a it
was a decent episode.

2069
02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:50,400
And I was tripping about the
white clothes because when they

2070
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:54,480
snuck into the camp, one of the
white cloaks came out of the

2071
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:58,520
tent and he was very visibly,
very drunk.

2072
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:02,800
He's moving around.
I'm like, aren't y'all worried

2073
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:05,000
about Trollix?
Like aren't y'all there because

2074
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:07,480
Trollix are attacking and you're
drunk?

2075
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:11,880
But for for the most part, I
think it was sort of maybe a

2076
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:14,800
reference for book reads.
For the most part, white cloaks

2077
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:20,920
in the books, I'm not going to
say a their joke, but they ain't

2078
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:24,960
the greatest fighters.
They're not the greatest army in

2079
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:27,920
the world.
They they're sort of, they are

2080
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:32,480
sort of the joke in the book.
That guy who they would get.

2081
02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:34,800
Serious.
A little bit later with

2082
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:40,440
leadership changes, but yeah.
That guy who Valder was talking

2083
02:08:40,440 --> 02:08:44,640
to, he was like hey do you want
to go learn how to how to catch

2084
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:48,600
a real witch or something?
When Valda walked off that dude

2085
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:52,560
was looking at him like am I
really supposed to do this?

2086
02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:56,360
He was looking like I do not
want to be here, why am I here?

2087
02:08:56,520 --> 02:08:59,960
Yeah, he's a he's a character.
He's a character from the book.

2088
02:08:59,960 --> 02:09:01,600
Everybody knows.
Oh, OK.

2089
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:03,440
I don't think he's going to be
important.

2090
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:06,720
Just like, just like that person
that they turned into a Gray

2091
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:08,800
man.
He was a he was a fairly.

2092
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:11,080
Chai chim do.
You want to.

2093
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:14,680
Be a Gray man.
Yeah, Yeah.

2094
02:09:15,120 --> 02:09:17,000
OK.
So this.

2095
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:19,760
Let's see how these things, how
these things play out.

2096
02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:24,960
Yeah, so this was episode 5.
We have three more episodes.

2097
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:30,760
Right now.
There is no news of whether or

2098
02:09:30,760 --> 02:09:33,280
not it's going to be renewed for
Season 4.

2099
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:35,960
Yeah, I think I really.
That's worrisome.

2100
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:40,400
I think I read somewhere there's
a petition or something.

2101
02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:45,360
Could be, but also I think I
read an article, actually, there

2102
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:49,480
were a couple of articles this
morning talking about how the

2103
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:55,200
ratings have gone up and how the
viewership has increased with

2104
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:57,880
season 3.
They're like the viewership

2105
02:09:57,880 --> 02:10:01,440
numbers are crazy.
So there's like why is it not

2106
02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:03,480
renewed yet?
And I'm like, y'all know these

2107
02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:08,640
streaming platforms, they like
to play these stupid games.

2108
02:10:08,640 --> 02:10:13,280
So I'm just if y'all don't renew
the show after this season,

2109
02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:16,480
after the way this season is
going, this season has been

2110
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:22,320
phenomenal so far.
If y'all don't renew this show

2111
02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:30,880
after this season I just I I
don't know what to say like.

2112
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:35,600
Read the books.
I mean, and I'll do that, but

2113
02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:41,520
still, I'm a, as I get older, my
interest is more visual because

2114
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:45,600
I can't sit and focus for long
enough to read a book.

2115
02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:48,720
It's just, you know, I'm about
to be 50.

2116
02:10:48,720 --> 02:10:52,040
You know, as I have on my
vintage 1975 show, I'm about to

2117
02:10:52,040 --> 02:10:53,640
be 50.
I just don't have that kind of

2118
02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:56,960
concentration anymore.
And these books are thick as

2119
02:10:57,200 --> 02:11:00,080
hell.
Yeah, they they hear pretty.

2120
02:11:00,440 --> 02:11:03,560
So no.
I told you the last book is the

2121
02:11:03,560 --> 02:11:07,200
last battle, and it's one of the
thicker books.

2122
02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:12,000
I know that's what that's the
one I have sitting on my shelf

2123
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:15,880
right now and I'm like, oh I
remember when I used to read a

2124
02:11:15,880 --> 02:11:22,080
book like this in like 2 days
now we'll see.

2125
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:25,200
I mean everybody talks about how
good the books are.

2126
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:30,040
So if I can get into.
No, that that was a lie because

2127
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:33,760
books 567 and 8.
Yes, you've mentioned that

2128
02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:35,680
before.
You have mentioned that before.

2129
02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:39,960
You have mentioned that.
But I mean, if I can, if I won,

2130
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:45,320
if I can get the time, because
we know with my schedule time,

2131
02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:48,920
what's that extra time?
You want time to, you want time

2132
02:11:48,920 --> 02:11:51,240
to sit down and read a book for
our work too.

2133
02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:53,800
What the hell?
I don't know.

2134
02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:59,120
But if I can find the time and
then if I could like get into it

2135
02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:02,400
and just kind of focus, then I
might do it.

2136
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:06,520
But I want to say I, I've, I've
really fallen in love with the

2137
02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:10,000
way these actors portray these
characters, even the evil ones,

2138
02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:13,800
they are so good.
So it's kind of like, I want to

2139
02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:18,120
see them finish the story out.
And I mean, you've got enough

2140
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:23,440
material to go through for
several seasons.

2141
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:28,960
Just don't fuck it up.
So but yeah, I I hope we get a

2142
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:33,600
season 4 announcement soon.
But Anthony, you have any final

2143
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:36,680
thoughts on this episode?
Nope.

2144
02:12:36,680 --> 02:12:41,120
Wayne, stay out of folks dreams.
That's all I'm going to say so.

2145
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:46,400
She's going to turn into
Cassandra when in Deadpool.

2146
02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:55,240
Oh God, no, that is horrible.
And on that note, that is it for

2147
02:12:55,240 --> 02:12:57,200
our show.
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2148
02:12:57,200 --> 02:13:00,840
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2149
02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:02,560
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2150
02:13:02,840 --> 02:13:04,680
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2151
02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:07,200
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2152
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:10,040
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2153
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:11,760
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2154
02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:40,880
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