The Wheel of Time Season 3 Episode 6 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #364

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Anthony and Mike.
Yay, Mike's Back are discussing

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Season 3, episode 6 of the Wheel
of time series.

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We are back at it.
You know, after after episode 5,

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we decided Anthony and I decided
that we were going to wait for

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Mike to come back from surgery
before we finish with the rest

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of the season.
And then of course, you know in

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in that time we have found out
that will time will not be

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coming back for season 4.
So I I think this.

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You see me with my tiny violin.
You know what?

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Shut up, Shut up, but.
They got to pay taxes, he got to

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renew good shows.
I mean, what the fuck?

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You got to do this motherfucker?
Sick I.

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Don't.
Know yeah, save money for the

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freeing of powers.
Shoot.

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Yeah, I.
Really.

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Let's not even get started on
that.

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So anyway, let's let's get into
this episode because now we see

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Leandron's origin story.
And I must say I I have a little

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bit of empathy for her, but that
does not change my way.

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That does not change how I feel
about this character.

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No, no, no and no.
Go ahead, Mike.

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Take it away.
No, first of all, OK, we, you,

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you, if we felt empathy for her,
would have felt empathy for her

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when when we found out that she
was still taking care of her son

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over by the towers like when he
was a old man, would have

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empathy for then. 95 years old.
I'm five years old would have

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empathy for then for what she
went through, but no, she ruined

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that when she not when she
knocked out Naive and Evelyn

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turn him over to the dark
friends in episode in season 2.

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Buck all that.
I have nothing for her.

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I ain't got nothing for you,
man.

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No, I don't.
I don't go.

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I don't give a blind fuck.
Plus, it's like this episode is

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for her become a little woman.
Yeah, you know what?

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There's some things I kind of
don't want her to do.

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But after seeing how Ran gave
that lame ass fucking apology.

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No, we're not going to go there
yet because no, we're not going

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to go there yet.
We stay on track.

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Stay on track because I have a
feeling you and I, we're going,

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we're going to have some
difference of opinion on ran, so

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stay on track.
I have no sympathy for her.

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Fuck that.
Fuck all that.

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No.
After all she's done, No, she

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can't.
She can't even.

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Even if I find out she's my mom,
I'm still beating.

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No, I can't do it.
This just to piggyback off like

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where Mike said no, no, no, no,
no, no and this woman is evil.

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She's done some despicable,
terrible things in her lifetime

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and there is no sympathy for her
to be had.

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I like, I, I appreciate, I'm not
going to say like, I appreciate

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that the writers of this show
are giving these characters more

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depth because they're all one
note in the book.

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You know, all these side
characters, villains, they're

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all one note.
I, I appreciate them giving her

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depth.
But no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Right.
And I mean, I feel like seeing

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her origin story, which we
already knew that she was in a

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marriage that she did not want,
did not realize she was a child

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bride.
I don't think until this episode

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confirmed it.
I can have some some sympathy

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for her for that, for having the
baby.

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And then I guess I don't know if
if when she no stop.

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Stop.
I understand but still let me

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get my thoughts out.
The when when she killed the guy

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and and her husband, was that
the first time that she was

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aware that she had access to the
one power?

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So when he was going for a baby,
Yeah, yes, I think so.

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I think that's.
OK, so I can sympathize you

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being a child bride, child, you
know, a child mother, finding

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out that you have access to this
power in one of the most

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traumatic ways.
Like this man was literally

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about to take your child and
drive them.

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That part I can get.
I can even almost excuse the

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fact that because Ishmael
approached her in a time when

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she was in need and she accepted
the help, she wasn't aware of

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what she was getting herself
into.

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I can get all that, but once you
get grown and you start not only

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just working for ish I male OK.
At this point you're probably

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indebted to him.
You don't have any control over

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that.
But when you get to the point

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where you're like, oh, instead
of thinking that everything that

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you're doing on their behalf is
wrong, you're like, oh, no, I'm

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going to do everything that I
can in order to become a

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Forsaken.
You lose me at that point.

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That's when you really lose me.
I can have sympathy for you up

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until that point, but when you
start saying, oh, I'm going to

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being forsaken and I'm going to
do everything that I can in

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order to achieve that goal.
Becoming Black Asha, turning on

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your sister's, just the
different things that she's

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doing and also keeping your son
alive until he's 95 just because

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you don't want to let him go.
I I get it, y'all, y'all tried

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to make us feel sympathy for
her, but I'm going to piggyback

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off of Mike and Anthony.
No, no, no.

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And then to see what she does in
this episode.

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Yes.
OK.

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Of course.
Ishmael is gone Now you're

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answering to landfill.
Landfill wants you to do certain

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things.
She's giving you clues that.

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Oh, such as?
Such as, you know, not following

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me.
They're betraying us with

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somebody else.
OK, I get all that, but it's

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almost the pleasure that she
took in dispatching Naomi.

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You evil.
You are really, really evil.

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And the fact that you just told
her, like, OK, yeah, I'm gonna

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become a Forsaken kill.
And then you turn around and

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it's fine is right there.
And you just talk to her like

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nothing like, oh, you just saw
me murder her, but what you

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gonna do?
Uh huh.

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So what, you find out for me?
I was like, no, no.

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Can you imagine Leandron as if
she, I don't even know what you

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have to do in order to become a
Forsaken.

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Can you imagine Leandron as a
Forsaken?

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She is so much more irritated
than she is now, and she will be

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so much more.
I don't know.

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She would have so much more ego
I think.

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You know, it's, it's, it's
pretty big right now, to be

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honest.
Exactly.

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Exactly.
So for her to get to that point,

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you know, she's going to be
walking around telling

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everybody, Oh yeah, you know, I
became a Forsaken.

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Oh, you know what?
I wanted to be Forsaken and I

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made that.
No, I just, no, no.

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But anyway, Speaking of
Forsaken, I have to now close my

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eyes and turn my head when
Mogherian is on the screen

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because she does some of the
most disgusting things.

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It makes it hard to watch her
scenes spitting in the pot,

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tearing the the the clogs and
everything and sitting there and

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eating with her fingers and
spitting everything back out and

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just out.
What is wrong with this?

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Like if you.
Did was she like sniffing

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someone's underwear?
Like what?

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What was she doing?
I don't.

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Know she was doing all of that,
but she was, I think she was

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sniffing like some of the I
guess like the blankets or

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something and then she was
tearing it and I was like, if

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you look up the word chaos in
the dictionary, her picture is

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going to be there.
Oh, I was going to say, if you

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look up the word foul, 'cause
she just foul.

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Chaos foul.
Creepy.

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Degrading.
Oh, that's a good one.

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Creepy, yeah.
I mean there there are a lot of

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adjectives to describe this.
This being, I don't even.

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Want to shout out?
Shout out to the actor.

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They deserve whatever award is
available for them.

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She's creepy and the thing and
the crazy thing is with her

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being that creepy is she's still
able to fly under the radar.

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Like nobody is really paying
attention to her at the the

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estate.
You know, even when Leandron is

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having the meeting with the rest
of the black Asha and she's

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telling them about the the
bracelets and the collar for,

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you know, the male channelers,
the way she's looking, she's not

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even being subtle.
She's walking around the table

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like oh what y'all talking about
over here?

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Nobody's paying her any
attention.

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Yeah, but it's not like, it's
not like she can like they could

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be like, what are you doing?
And she can make them forget.

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It's not, it's not like she
can't do, she can't do that.

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So she could be as late as late
as she wants to be.

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I know, but the the fact is that
she was being so blatant and

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Leandra who usually pays
attention to stuff, nothing.

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She had no issues with a little
servant girl just walking around

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all in their business.
It was just so strange.

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Very, very sneaky.
Very, very sneaky.

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Yes, here's another adjective.
Yeah, I'll just go along with

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Mike, Say it ain't like I don't
know if she's compulsing them,

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but it's not like if they do
start questioning her, she can't

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compose that of.
Them I don't think she's, I

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don't think she's doing that.
I don't think she's composing

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them waste their egos and very
used to that.

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Like would be accepted the
novices walking around.

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So they're kind of used to a
servant just being a servant.

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And see, I don't even know if if
I feel like that's it.

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I feel like she's like not
compulsing them, but it's

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something that she's doing to
herself to kind of make herself

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invisible, make herself the fly
on the wall.

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Like OK, y'all see me here.
Y'all know y'all know enough

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about me to know that I'm here.
Because when she confronts is

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fine.
Later is fine is like, wait a

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minute, I know who you are.
But again, when when they're

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there, they're just.
It's almost like she's

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unimportant you.
Know yeah, only only the only

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thing I can say is maybe she has
composed them already.

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But I think it also helps that
they're used to someone like

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that.
She's just a lowly servant and

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that's how she acts so they all
have egos.

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They.
If they they wouldn't be black

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eyes if they weren't full of
themselves and and everyone was

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beneath them.
So yeah.

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That's true, but when when she
she goes from being invisible to

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being very visible because one
she confronts inspire and she's

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like, oh, OK, yeah.
So now I only must not have been

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the only person who was, you
know, cohorting behind

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somebody's back like here to me.
Are you meeting Semi Al or are

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you meeting rabbit?
Oh, you're going to tell me what

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y'all are doing.
And it's like at that time,

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that's when you realize, oh,
Leandra doesn't have as much of

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a hold on this cabal as she
thinks she does because you got

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two who obviously are serving
Raven.

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Because when she's confronted,
it's mom was like, yeah, so

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Leandra found out about Naomi,
not that she was pointing

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fingers.
She found out about Naomi and

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she killed her.
So I'm here to tell him then she

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I mean first.
Of all, it's a it's a whole,

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it's a whole den of thieves.
It's like you can't, you can't

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trust.
There's no reason for any of

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them to trust each other because
they were Asia and they betrayed

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the whole betrayed everybody
else.

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Like, why would why would I
trust anything?

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Why would they trust anything
that others have to say?

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Because you, all of them have to
have a eye to the side to make

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sure that Noah's Gary put a
knife in their back while

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they're probably trying to put a
knife in someone else's back.

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It's like, it's like a circle
stab.

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It's like you can't, you gotta
keep your eye on everybody

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because they've, they've proven
that they're not trustworthy.

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They've proven that they are,
that they'll do anything to get

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what they want, like anything.
Betray, betray the host, betray

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all their sisters and do
anything to get what they want.

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So it's like, I wouldn't trust
them.

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I wouldn't trust now one of
them.

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I I mean I'm surprised the
Andron hasn't killed half of

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them already.
She.

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Probably needs them and.
Whatever.

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When Ishmael died, he just
became free for all, for the

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Forsaken because he was the one
in charge.

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Now he's going to.
No one's in charge.

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So yeah.
And they do that.

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The black guys who was his pet
project so someone had to take

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it over.
And of course, who better than

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Landfair or Robin?
I mean, at this point, it's kind

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of like half and half now, at
least for what we can tell.

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Because it's what?
Leandre, Naomi, Jen and Kay

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Kayda.
And wasn't there one more I?

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Think it was 1.
More.

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Oh yeah, the the Asian lady with
the kind of crazy hairdo at the

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beginning.
I can't remember what her name

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was.
So it's five of them.

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OK, so now you just got rid of
two of them because it's fine.

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Got the Prince Ober and Martel
treatment with the.

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Oh I was thinking of of what's
her name from Wolverine?

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Deadpool, Charles, sister.
Xavier's sister.

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Oh no, see, she was going
outwards.

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The Mogherian was going inward.
So no, she got killed the same

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way over.
And then later on, the whole

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thing that she does with Elaine
and Naive is so creepy again, is

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the word that comes to mind
because she's talking to them

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with this very childlike voice,
which she does kind of often

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when she's trying to be in her
little manipulative mode.

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But the fact that Elaine and I
need have no idea that this is

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going on because she's, you
know, she's messed with their

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head a little bit, it makes it
even more creepy 'cause they're

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sitting there all smiley and
giggly and oh God.

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And she's just sing song talking
to them about who they are, what

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they do.
Oh yeah, you 2 are very

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powerful.
Especially you again with Naive,

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the most powerful channeler that
anyone has seen in the last 1000

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years.
Apparently even the Forsaken can

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since this I don't have anything
to drink my my cup is empty.

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So you guys are going to have to
do it for me.

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But well, that means.
Too.

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But then the way that she treats
both of them, it's so very like,

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very different and very obvious
because of course, she's looking

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at my knees with a lot of
interest because again, Naneeve

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is so powerful.
And she was like, oh, you

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blocked yourself, Why did you do
that?

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And Naneeve is like, I guess
she's under some kind of

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compulsion to also tell the
truth.

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So she actually voiced.
Her the compulsion.

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The compulsion is I think the
compulsion is to please her to

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to please or make her happy.
Do whatever you can to to please

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me.
Yeah, but but why?

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Because everything they did was.
Having.

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Things because because it's
they're just giving her what

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what she wants.
So she asks a question.

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Of course, when I tell you the
truth, because it's going to

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make you happy.
OK, but she she finally admits

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out loud what I think we have
all kind of guessed she has a

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block because she's afraid of
her power.

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So she's kind of put it to the
side.

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She doesn't she doesn't want to
to have anything to do with it

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because it scares her.
And what does MO getting it says

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when she hugs her?
She said, in my time we would

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have beaten that out of you.
Like, oh, you want to be scared

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of your power?
Oh, no, we're we're going to

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make you forget that fear.
Oops.

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OK.
But then when she talks to

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Elaine, she looks at Elaine very
differently.

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And then she actually says to
Elaine, she said, you know,

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Robin wants you killed.
He's already, I've already sent

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my Gray man twice.
But you are, you're resilient.

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She's like, that's OK, 'cause I
like him not getting.

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Like the way like the way he
wants.

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Yeah, yeah.
But also one thing I noticed

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when she's having a conversation
with them in front of the fire,

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she tells I need to go get the
bracelet.

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She goes to get the bracelet and
Elaine is still sitting there

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doing the smile and everything.
She actually looks at Elaine

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like, Oh my God, whatever, like
like Elaine is dirt.

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And I was like, what's this?
What I don't know.

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What is her strong dislike of
Elaine?

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Is it just because Raven is
taking so much of an interest in

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her?
Or is it because she's pissed

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that Elaine has twice eluded the
Gray man?

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I I don't know it's.
Probably all of the above.

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It's probably all of the above.
The look on her face was crazy.

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I think that, I think it has
some of it has to do with the

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fact that Nineve almost snapped
the fuck out of it and she had

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to like turn it up in order to
keep her under.

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She was like, OK, you're
interesting.

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Thank you.
But that didn't happen until

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after she gave Elaine that look
because my knee was up getting

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the bracelet and then when she
came and sat back down and tried

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to take the bracelet.
Bracelet.

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Yeah, she held on.
Yes, and my knees facial

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expression also changed a little
bit because it wasn't like a

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genuine smile.
It became one of those like, oh,

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I'm being controlled and I'm
trying to fight my way out of

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life.
Hi.

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Hi.
I think she probably she

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probably I, but still, I still
think that she she thinks that

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Naniva is more interesting
because she has she has the most

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she's the most powerful Chandler
that there ever is.

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In the last 1000 years.
Yeah.

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So I think, I think I think that
she can sense there's something

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special about her.
So that makes her more

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interesting than Elaine, who is
talented but nowhere near as

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talented as Naive is.
So she's probably like, you

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know, like you.
I can you, I can take a lead.

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But you you're interesting.
I might be able to use you

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later.
That's correct.

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Really don't, don't, don't,
don't think that I'm sorry,

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Don't think that Elaine is not
as talented as naive.

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But I know.
She's she's not the most

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powerful channeler that we've
seen in the last 1000 years.

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She's up.
She's up there now.

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I know, but yeah, I know she's
talent.

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But I'm, I'm thinking that she
is.

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She senses more.
She senses, she senses more from

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Naive than she does from Evelyn.
She might.

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Not naive is here and Elaine
might be right here.

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Yeah.
But didn't you say that in the

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books Naive is actually powerful
enough to take on the first

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Sakin?
Oh, she's as powerful as they

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are.
OK.

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OK.
So may not.

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Including Magedian, because
Magedian is really weak.

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She's she's the weakest of them.
Of them, yeah, I remember you

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saying that, OK.
But you know, I need is like I

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think land fear would be 1 and
I'm pretty sure I need is 2.

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Whoa.
And Jordan's books and his and

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his, if I remember correctly, I
think that's about right.

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And then below that you have
like, you know, Grendel and

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Avienda.
Oh, there's there's one other

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one who she's a 400 year old
Damani.

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I can't remember her name off
top of my head.

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She's like maybe three or two.
She's up there too, OK, So

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hopefully I had hoped we would
get to see her, but you know

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that's not going to happen.
Yeah, I think I remember you

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mentioning her when we were
talking for a second.

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Yeah, that's so disappointing
anyway.

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Let's not even go there.
Like I said, I, I think I

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mentioned this in one of our
other recordings, Anthony and I

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actually did a video where we
talked about the cancellation.

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I think I'm a little more upset
than you are, but I'm going to

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post that at at some point.
But yeah, it would have been

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more interesting to see them
bring more of the Forsaken and

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to see how that was going to
round out.

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Because anyway, OK, yeah.
Because the the wheel needs for

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ran to have just as many
powerful people as there are

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forsaken for LC wouldn't be a
contest.

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OK, Yeah.
And and it was, it really did

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seem like we were headed towards
that towards the end of this

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season with everyone kind of
coming into their own powers.

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But we'll talk about those
things later on because we still

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have two episodes for this
season to talk about.

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But OK, let's see, where do we
want to go next?

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Do we want to talk about Two
Rivers?

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Yeah, let's talk about Two
Rivers because I want to talk

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about the E Gwaine and Rand and
Lamphere stuff last, because

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that's probably going to be the
most explosive.

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But yeah.
Hey, I just I just want to say

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that this file is like a carbon
copy from the book.

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I mean, it's that is the best
casting really, yes.

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I love.
Her.

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I love her, yeah.
I love her.

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And I'm, I'm, I'm feeling this
phial and parent thing because

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now that it's moved from his
dream to actually happening, I'm

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here for it.
Yeah, even though we're not

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getting any more of it.
But I I'm here for it.

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Yeah, the only the, the only
thing that I, I would deem them

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on is I don't like that they
made her mother a dark friend.

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It wasn't like that in the
books, but I guess they needed

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to to kind of give her a reason
to to to.

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To go out.
Yeah, besides, you know, hunting

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for the horn.
But you know, whatever it is

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what it is.
They, like I said, they're

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trying to give these characters
some depth and direction and I

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just, I think her just wanting
to seek adventure and not being

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sheltered as a noble woman would
have been enough to add on there

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that her mother was a dark
friend.

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Because if that wasn't a case in
the book.

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OK, I guess I, I guess in a way
it makes it interesting because

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it kind of explains her brother
and it explains just kind of her

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her.
Yeah, but you wouldn't have had

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to.
You wouldn't even have to even

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have a story about the brother.
To make a mother a dark friend,

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then you have to have the story
about the brother.

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Whatever.
Mean, like you said, adding a

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little more depth to the
characters.

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Yeah.
So I mean, I thought it was, I

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thought it was a cool way to
kind of give her a little bit of

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background and also kind of, I
guess bridge that little edge of

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that little gap with her and
parent because, you know, she

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brings the brother, but she was
like, oh, you would have liked

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my brother kind of like easing
into that territory and then

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telling the story.
And then you kind of 1, you get

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parents who really open up about
what happened to Layla because

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he's relating to her story about
her mom being a dark friend.

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You know, just this decisions
that you have to make and how it

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affects your life, how it
affects, you know, everything

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else.
And this is the first time that

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we actually hear him say out
loud that he killed Layla,

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right?
Because I don't think he said

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that out loud to anyone else,
you know, and and her response

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to it when she said did she
fight?

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Well, he says yes, she said then
don't dishonor her by holding on

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to her, her memory this long.
Like, this is the one thing

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we've been talking about with
Parent, you know, as far as his

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character, he's been holding on
to that guilt for so long, even

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though it really was an
accident.

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What happened to lately, it
wasn't something he did on

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purpose.
It wasn't something that I felt

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like he should be holding on to.
And I'd like that he's actually

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absolved from someone else,
someone who doesn't really know

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the situation, but who can say,
OK, look, this is it.

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It happened.
It was an accident.

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But also, you need to let her go
in order to move on, in order to

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forgive yourself, in order to
let her be at peace.

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And I think he really needed to
hear that.

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And he wasn't going to hear that
from anyone because nobody knew

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the truth about what happened.
What were you?

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About Yeah, he he needed it for
his peace, too.

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I mean, it's like this would
have haunted him for the rest of

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his life, that this is something
that he would never have shared

447
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:37,480
with anybody anywhere anyhow.
But you know, I mean he shared

448
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,280
my dog, shared it with her and I
ship.

449
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:46,520
We use top with the my, the
wolf, brother wolf, wolf, wolf.

450
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,560
Wolf, dog, coyote, whatever.
What?

451
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,280
What is it about the The Wind
Spring Inn and the common area

452
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,320
here?
Is it like a magical love thing

453
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,600
in the air?
Refuses want to make out and do

454
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,000
things down there.
Yeah.

455
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,800
I don't know that's.
Like.

456
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,640
Because isn't that also where we
saw Rand and E Gwang?

457
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,720
Yes, he was.
Yes, he was.

458
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:21,440
Maybe it's just the atmosphere,
I don't know, but meanwhile

459
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,640
upstairs when I tell y'all I
thought Alana was dying because

460
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,240
when she went through that spasm
of pain and she turned her head

461
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,920
to the side and just kind of
ASAP I said if y'all kill her.

462
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,320
No, Last episode I thought she
was dead.

463
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,680
I thought all those arrows in
her.

464
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,200
I thought she was gone.
I was.

465
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,160
I was like, I thought they
killed her right then and there.

466
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,240
I was like.
But but but we talked about how

467
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,360
the the bond with the the warder
gives them a + 15 in health.

468
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,400
Yeah.
Gives.

469
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,440
Them gives them a boost.
That boost, yeah.

470
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,920
Yeah, 2D2 D 8 + 12, Yeah.
I was, I was so worried because

471
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,480
like I said, the way that she
was, it seemed like she died.

472
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,200
And then when she came back and
she was like Maximus time, I was

473
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,360
sitting there just shaking my
head.

474
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,280
We're not doing this.
We're not doing this.

475
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,280
Even during the whole
conversation.

476
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,000
We're not doing this.
We're not doing this.

477
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,960
And then, of course, the girls
come in because this is after

478
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,000
the rescue of Matt's sisters.
And we find out that Maddie is

479
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,840
dead.
So the sisters come upstairs to

480
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:35,200
thank Alana for saving them.
And, you know, Maxim tells, you

481
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,840
know, tells him.
Yeah, she she can't heal

482
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,760
herself.
I said I can heal others, but

483
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,640
they can't heal themselves.
They give these each other this

484
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,000
knowing.
Look at Maximus life.

485
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,200
Wait a minute, are y'all telling
me you can channel?

486
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,760
Like y'all can fix this?
Are we just standing?

487
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,560
But Alana kind of.
She guides them into healing

488
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,560
her.
And then the first thing she

489
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,520
says when she's fully healed,
she looks at math and say, I

490
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,520
told you so.
I told you there were channelers

491
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,680
in this hills.
I was like, OK, good.

492
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,400
She's back to herself now.
She's being a smart ass.

493
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,480
We're going to be OK because I
was really worried that she was

494
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,000
going to die and I was like, I
don't know how I I don't think I

495
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,800
can see another another step in
if that would have happened

496
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:26,920
because if Maxim would have lost
both of them, we.

497
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,480
Yeah, didn't.
Didn't you find it strange that,

498
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,160
you know, a parent was knocking
on this door and he seemed to be

499
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,840
almost fully I'll almost within
hours?

500
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,800
Just like that, just like you
said, those mountain nerves are

501
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,760
powerful.
Do you find that suspicious?

502
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,480
That's my God I.
You know.

503
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,400
Werewolves have a very good
healing healing thing.

504
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,320
So he ain't a werewolf?
Come on, son.

505
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,120
No, but.
If.

506
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:04,200
If I mean, if you think about it
and it it kind of strikes in the

507
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,880
same way that night when I need
was healing people, you know

508
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,400
that OK, so somebody somebody
got a magic touch.

509
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,400
There might be either in Gwen's
Mama or whoever the other lady

510
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:17,800
was.
I.

511
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,240
Can't.
Yeah, the the the Conjurer,

512
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,480
what's her name?
I can't remember but she's like

513
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,680
oh this POTUS will help with the
infection.

514
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,480
Sure it will, Right?
Right.

515
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,200
I mean it, it helped.
It might have had a little extra

516
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,640
in it.
Yeah, we had extra in it all

517
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,200
right.
Extra.

518
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,080
It had extra in it but.
I mean, honestly.

519
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,520
Because in the book.
Surprised me.

520
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,760
In in the book, when that's why
Nanny when she was first made of

521
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,760
wisdom and she was really young,
she was That's how she healed

522
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,800
Gwen from.
Yeah.

523
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,840
The brake bomb.
But she didn't know that's what

524
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,280
she was doing, right?
No.

525
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600
She she was doing it all the
time and didn't know she was

526
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,480
doing it, so this person could
be doing it too.

527
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,680
I mean, it's the two rivers.
We already know that the two

528
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,480
rivers got something special
going on about it.

529
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,520
So like Alana said, there are
channelers in these woods like

530
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,160
this is the this is the place
that used to be Mineteran.

531
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,320
This is where the powerful
people are.

532
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,320
I mean, you got parent, who's
the wolf brother?

533
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:32,440
You got Matt, who is the, you
know, the horn blower and has

534
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,200
picked up these different little
skills.

535
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,400
You have Naive, you have Iguan,
you have Rand.

536
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,720
All who can channel Rand is the
freaking Dragon Reborn.

537
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,560
Naive is the most powerful
channeler we've seen in the last

538
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,000
1000 years.
And I mean.

539
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,480
Well in in the show there are 5
Tavirin all born right there and

540
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,240
that's huge even though they
don't really talk about Tavirin.

541
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,560
Tom kind of mentions you later.
Tom was like y'all are either

542
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,200
pulling on the pattern of a
pattern is pulling on y'all but

543
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,440
don't want no part of it.
Right.

544
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,120
I don't think Tom has a choice
though 'cause he keeps coming

545
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,880
into contact with them.
Yeah.

546
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,640
But I swear to if Matt doesn't
doesn't learn how to shut the.

547
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,600
Let let's not let's not talk
about Matt yet 'cause we we got

548
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,400
one more thing to talk.
About because it's like Matt Tom

549
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,040
was like we shut the fuck.
Up.

550
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,960
I know we're not gonna get there
yet.

551
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,600
We're still in the Two Rivers
because we need to talk about

552
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,600
Mr. Clean Shaven Pat and Fame
showing up.

553
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,560
This mother fucker, I swear to
God, I I still I love seeing him

554
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,040
because he just seems so out of
place.

555
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Like he's it's almost like he's
a shapeshifter.

556
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,000
It's just like he comes in, he's
like, hey, yo, he's like the

557
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,640
best and worst con man.
He's like, he'll come in and be

558
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,400
like, yeah, you all right?
What's that?

559
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,120
Oh, oh, no.
Ranches of trolley.

560
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,520
I'm good, you know?
Hey.

561
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,240
So this is this is the problem,
right With with all of that.

562
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,600
This is the problem.
I know they really didn't

563
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:15,199
establish it, but the children
of the light in the book are so,

564
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:21,280
well, they're sort of a joke,
but they're so like, like they

565
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,679
make a big deal about everything
being perfect, everything being

566
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:29,120
shiny.
You know, even if they fight or

567
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,679
battle, everything is still
pristine.

568
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,360
And like if anything is out of
place, you get beat.

569
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,440
Like it's a problem.
You can't have a whole.

570
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,040
You wouldn't have a whole.
Like I wouldn't say regimen, but

571
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,480
you wouldn't have a whole bunch
of them walk up and they're not

572
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,840
clean shaven.
Their hair is a mess.

573
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,920
All of them, All of them hair is
a mess.

574
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,120
The cloaks are a mess.
They're called white cloaks.

575
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,880
Their stuff is supposed to be
pristine when they won't like

576
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,960
that in the book.
Those people they would have

577
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,160
turned on them.
Like who are y'all?

578
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,000
Because y'all are obviously not
white clothes.

579
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Well, I mean, if they literally
just OK, we know they no.

580
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,600
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no
no.

581
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,720
If they clean they would be
clean shaven.

582
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,440
Dan is not clean shaven.
Dan is walking around there

583
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,280
drunk.
Well, well, he's, he's, they

584
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,840
understand he's having some
issues.

585
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,800
He he lost his father.
He just.

586
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,560
Supposedly fought.
He's the only one that looks

587
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,040
like that.
He's the only one They can't

588
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,400
have 30 of them walk up and look
like that.

589
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,240
If you literally just fought
fought some trollies like right?

590
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,800
There, but trollies don't make
your beer grow and your hair

591
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,800
grow long and be greasy and
ugly.

592
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,400
Come on now.
Come on now.

593
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,880
Yeah, they they look like.
They doesn't have long hair.

594
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,240
His hair is cut short, like
almost like.

595
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:55,080
What about the rest of them?
What about the rest of them?

596
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,880
Because the command the the the
squad leader.

597
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,520
They've been walking.
They thought about.

598
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,480
That's a that's a bad reflection
on him as a leader.

599
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:07,160
Right, they would throw him out,
they would beat him.

600
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,840
They would they would strip him
off his.

601
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Front and I and I get it and
that's what I was going to say

602
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,880
about Pat and Faye.
Pat and Faye is one of those

603
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,880
characters where kind of like
Mike, he always seems out of

604
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,240
place, but it's almost like no,
it's kind of like mageddon.

605
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,720
He doesn't belong there, but
nobody pays attention to the

606
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:31,280
fact that his fool.
And why was he here?

607
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:36,720
Like something about just the
way he carries himself, the way

608
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:42,040
he speaks to other people,
something right about this dude.

609
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:48,640
But even child Valda with all of
his so-called knowledge and

610
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:54,000
intelligence and the things that
he's seen, he's seen and he the

611
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,200
only thing he remarks is he
looks him like what he's gonna

612
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:02,240
ask who are you?
Where did you come from?

613
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:05,480
He's just looking at the blood
like, OK, what happened to you?

614
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,160
Oh, we we got into it with some
Charles, but we good and that's

615
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,800
it.
I was like this dude is either

616
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:17,760
one of the best chameleons ever
or something about him being a

617
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,840
dark friend.
Kind of masks him in the same

618
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,720
way.
I would say like Mogadian is

619
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:30,040
masked if you want to put.
It that way no, no and no.

620
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,440
Whatever I'm saying I'm not
talking about book stuff.

621
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,320
I'm talking about the way he
appears on the.

622
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,480
Show even on the show no on the.
Show he's.

623
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:40,800
Very.
He can't.

624
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,360
He can't.
He's not going to mask another

625
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,160
50 other people.
No, it's not now when all fifty

626
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,040
of them look look dirty,
deranged and crazy.

627
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,680
Talking about something in the
books though, Anthony, as we can

628
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,800
see from the show, even before
parenting them, attacked the

629
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,920
tents.
You have several of them walking

630
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:07,000
around unshaven, UN unkempt,
walking around drunk as a skunk.

631
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Like literally.
You had Children of the The

632
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,520
Witch, Mccullough's.
You had them walking out of the

633
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,760
tents stumbling with bottles of
alcohol.

634
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,640
We're not.
Talking about the way they

635
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,320
insulins is clean.
No, no they didn't look like no

636
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:28,280
Skaggs that was just just picked
up some dirty ass uniforms and

637
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,360
walked to the camp.
Come on, whatever.

638
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,320
No, no, no, no what?
I'm saying is.

639
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,520
I will die on that hill, no?
Something about Pat Payne, even

640
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,160
though we know he's not right,
when other people look at him,

641
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:49,360
they don't see it.
Donald is grieving and they need

642
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,720
reinforcements and he did not
think any clearly.

643
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,600
I can't explain Valda, the only
person.

644
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,600
Who is grieving?
They had multiple members of

645
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,960
their group murdered in this.
Wait, wait, wait.

646
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,200
He was the only one that saw his
father murdered.

647
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:14,000
He's a soldier in war and all of
them saw some people get

648
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,360
murdered.
He saw his father get murdered

649
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:21,400
in front of him.
It's not like it's not watching

650
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,640
Tony from tent #13 I saw him
take it.

651
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,560
It was.
Also six months later for for

652
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,040
for these folks, dude, I mean,
we, we were saying that we're

653
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,000
parent.
You got to move on because you

654
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,680
got other stuff going on right
now.

655
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,320
Yes, I.
Just now moved on and it's been

656
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,440
2 years.
Come on now, we're just saying.

657
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,200
That he needs to move on for a
minute.

658
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,280
So what I mean, I'm, I'm just
saying, I'm just saying.

659
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,400
Plus it's like.
Having friends has no magic

660
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,520
ability.
Nothing, and all dark friends

661
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,600
get in return for their oath is
a promise of something.

662
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,960
That's all they get.
They don't get anything else.

663
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,080
They don't get no kind of stat
boost because I.

664
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,640
They don't get.
They don't get.

665
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,520
Differently.
No, dark friends don't get stat

666
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,600
boost.
OK.

667
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,600
The needle roll for
disadvantage.

668
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,280
Let's see the whole thing again
about the, the, the Knights of

669
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,040
the light or whoever the hell
they are.

670
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,920
It's like they've been, they've
been getting their ass kicked

671
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,880
for the last two years.
Like it's like it's start.

672
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,360
I mean, they've been, they've
been, have been winning a lot of

673
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,760
important battles.
Like it's like they like every

674
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,040
time they come up against
parenting them they get their

675
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,440
ass kicked.
Well, in the book, like I said,

676
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:49,240
the book they are they are the
greatest of as a unit soldiers.

677
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,520
They they're they're just not
they got some bright spots.

678
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:58,520
They got some guys like Valda
who's a blade master and a

679
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,600
couple other ones.
But say.

680
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,120
Who's an asshole?
What?

681
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,080
Oh, is it?
Blade Master.

682
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,560
Blade Master.
I'm just saying Valda is an

683
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,600
asshole.
He will.

684
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,080
He is that.
He is asshole 1st and the blade

685
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,280
master second.
Yeah.

686
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:20,000
That's just my opinion but OK.
So let's OK we can move on from

687
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,560
pad to fame.
We need to go to the other side

688
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,160
of the world.
Do y'all want to hit Tan Chico

689
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,280
with the group?
What do you believe of Tan

690
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,880
Chico?
I'm telling you, if I don't hear

691
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,720
people singing that just
randomly singing it at Dragon

692
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:37,960
Con, I'm going to be so
disappointed, no.

693
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,800
I'm going to start a couple
rounds myself.

694
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,520
Shit, it's like.
I, I mean, hey, it's, it's a

695
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,720
cash.
It's it's a what it what is it

696
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:49,760
that the young kids say?
It's a bop.

697
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,680
It's a bop.
It's catchy.

698
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,520
I was.
But I was not expecting it.

699
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,520
Lying maybe?
You said it like that.

700
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:03,160
I mean, I'm just saying, but
it's a bop.

701
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,600
Like the kids say, oh God.
I'm I'm 50 now, I can do that.

702
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,560
Yeah.
I can do that now.

703
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,360
I can say get off my lawn and I
can say all those other old

704
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,720
people sayings.
I've earned it this.

705
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,240
Is true.
I'm I'm not going to argue with

706
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:26,200
you about that.
OK, Tan Chico, There are several

707
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,840
interesting things that happen
in Tan Chico besides the fact

708
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,400
that we find out this is where
Leandre is from and this is

709
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,480
where Son was born and all this
other stuff.

710
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:45,920
Naive like laughs and acts
normal for the first time I

711
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,400
think in three seasons, 'cause I
don't think we've ever seen her

712
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,120
silly or we've ever seen her
even that loose like he.

713
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,440
I think the most loose we've
seen her is probably with EG

714
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,040
Wayne and LAN, and she's never
let her hair down like this.

715
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,160
So big ups to men for getting
her drunk because she definitely

716
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,120
needed it.
But I feel like it also, I feel

717
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,720
like in a in a sense it kind of
put them in danger too, because

718
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,640
she was so loose at that time
and they were having so much

719
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,680
fun.
I don't think they were really

720
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,680
paying attention to what they
were doing.

721
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,120
Like they're, they're supposed
to, you know, they're, they're

722
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,880
supposed to be finding out
information on Leandro, which

723
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,440
they are able to do.
But they don't do it as covert

724
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,800
covertly as I think they should
have because when they're

725
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,880
talking, they're talking loud
enough for the person at the

726
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,160
table next to them to hear.
And that person is loud.

727
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,920
Leandro.
Did you say Leandro?

728
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:50,640
God, did you have to be so loud
about it?

729
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,400
Yes.
Do you know anything about her?

730
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,440
Yes I heard she heard.
She came down and cleared out

731
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,040
the whole and other state
talking so loud like dude,

732
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,960
you're in a bar and you're
talking louder than anybody

733
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,400
else.
It's no wonder that Inspire was

734
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,520
able to hear her.
But it's like also, y'all know

735
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,040
y'all looking out for
information for Leandra.

736
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,760
Why are y'all not paying
attention to who's around you?

737
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,120
Why are y'all not looking out
there?

738
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,960
And I mean, I get it.
They probably didn't know who

739
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,720
was there because I.
Don't think they really know.

740
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,000
I don't really think they know
what they look like either.

741
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,560
Yeah, that's what I was going to
say.

742
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,440
But because it's one, it's fine,
I had the thing over her face.

743
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,880
And two, I don't think if Naive
would have known who it was, I

744
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,000
don't think she would have seen
her as much in in the Tower

745
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,880
because of what happened when
she walked into the thing.

746
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,240
But still, it's kind of like pay
attention to people who might be

747
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:55,160
just kind of because if if
somebody's sitting over here and

748
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,800
they're just sitting with their
face to the wall and there's a

749
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,120
whole big commotion going on
over here and you don't even

750
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,320
turn your head just a little to
see what's going on.

751
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,200
You suspicious you are trying
hard not to be seen.

752
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,440
I just felt like they, it was
nice to see her let her hair

753
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:18,600
down, but she I don't think they
were as cautious as they could

754
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,000
have been.
And then I think because her

755
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,800
inhibitions were already kind of
lowered, I think that made her a

756
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,480
little more susceptible when
Mogadian came in because

757
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,600
Mogadian even noticed that.
Oh, OK, you're fighting me.

758
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:38,440
No, Hanukkah she is not less
susceptible because she was

759
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,120
drunk.
Mogadian The compulsion is a

760
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:48,480
very, very and.
I get that, but what I you?

761
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,600
Don't have to have the you you.
They don't have defenses.

762
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,160
They're not.
You're not more or less easily

763
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:59,120
compulsed unless you.
But the fact that Naive was

764
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,280
fighting back.
That's only because she's

765
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,960
powerful.
OK, but this is what I'm saying.

766
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,640
If she's powerful enough to
almost kind of sort of

767
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,360
breakthrough what Magedian was
doing right then and there, and

768
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,840
she was inebriated to say the
least.

769
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:18,000
What, because she had been
capable of if she hadn't been

770
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,800
drunk?
The same thing.

771
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,360
It wouldn't matter.
I disagree.

772
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,200
It wouldn't matter.
It wouldn't matter I.

773
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,600
Disagree.
That's just how this magic

774
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,760
system works.
It wouldn't matter.

775
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,160
There's one thing called fork
root, which is the only thing

776
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,920
that suppresses your power, that
can suppress the one power.

777
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,680
That's that's the only thing she
the the alcohol wouldn't have

778
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,080
made her less or more
susceptible.

779
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,960
She was.
Everyone around the Forsaken is

780
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,000
susceptible to compulsion.
Right now.

781
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,800
OK, so based on what you just
said, the fork root is the only

782
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,520
thing that suppresses the one
power.

783
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,960
Like a natural, like you were
talking about beverages.

784
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,960
They they will give, they will.
Like If they have someone

785
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,280
trapped without wanting to
shield them, they'll be giving

786
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,320
them fork, routine or force.
Them to drink fork routine I'm.

787
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,840
Not talking to them, but but the
alcohol wouldn't.

788
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,760
But the alcohol wouldn't have
made her less susceptible to

789
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,240
compulsion.
You, you, you're trying to.

790
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,480
So.
So what I'm saying is, yeah,

791
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,600
Naniva is very powerful.
And that's the one thing that

792
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,960
made her almost breakthrough the
compulsion.

793
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,200
She's not more easily compulsed
because she's inebriated, and if

794
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,120
she wasn't inebriated that would
have made her breakthrough or

795
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,080
break the compulsion.
That's that's not how compulsion

796
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:57,040
works.
The the the alcohol didn't make

797
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,320
her more susceptible to
compulsion, and not being

798
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,840
inebriated wouldn't have made
her less susceptible compulsion.

799
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,240
They're all susceptible to
compulsion.

800
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,040
The only thing you can do is
what?

801
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,560
What's her name?
Did you block it?

802
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,840
Hopefully if you see it's, if
you can see it happening, maybe

803
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,080
you can block it.
But they didn't even know what

804
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,640
was happening by the time it was
too late.

805
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,360
So that would have been the only
thing they even would have been

806
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,040
able to do, would have been able
to block it.

807
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,280
Unless she's the most powerful
Chandler in the last 1000 years,

808
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,760
then she might be able to block
it.

809
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,280
Kind of.
But but I mean, even without her

810
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,960
blocking it, it was obvious that
she was fighting through it.

811
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,880
Yeah, because she's very
powerful.

812
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,520
The alcohol had nothing to do
one way or the.

813
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,240
Other I'm not.
It didn't make her less

814
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:51,400
acceptable.
OK.

815
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,120
All right.
We'll, we'll just we'll move on

816
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,240
from that because I think I
don't, I don't think you're

817
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,560
getting what I'm saying, but it.
You're saying if she wasn't

818
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:08,200
inebriated, imagine what she
could have done If she was

819
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,200
trying to breakthrough the
compulsion I'm seeing, her being

820
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,040
inebriated wouldn't have made a
difference one way.

821
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,160
Yep, she could have been sober
and it would have same and the

822
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,560
same result would have happened.
She would have almost broke

823
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,800
through the same way.
The alcohol didn't make a

824
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:32,160
difference.
OK, this is this is my, this is

825
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,600
my.
I disagree with you, but OK, I'm

826
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,440
just saying because I mean,
Elaine is supposed to be

827
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,840
powerful too.
Why didn't, why wasn't she able

828
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,760
to kind of sort of breakthrough,
you know?

829
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,000
'Cause she's not as powerful as
Nanny.

830
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,800
But you just said not too long
ago that she's just about as

831
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,240
powerful as Nanieve.
Being no, I said she was close.

832
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:57,800
I didn't say she was as powerful
as she was.

833
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,800
Nanieve is the most powerful
channeler in the last 1000

834
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,960
years.
So they keep saying I'm gonna.

835
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:13,440
Have to pee in a second.
Never mind.

836
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,040
And Megalion is really good at
compulsion, like Robin so.

837
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,720
Yeah, but.
Grendel is the best for a

838
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:33,040
Grendel in the book Grendel.
Grendel can compose like a

839
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,160
whole.
Grendel is not one that we've

840
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,560
met yet, right?
No, she's mentioned but we

841
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,200
haven't met yet.
OK, OK, OK.

842
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,680
And.
We never will.

843
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,440
I don't know.
They got this, they got this

844
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,880
petition going on trying to save
the show and they got billboards

845
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,280
everywhere.
So I I don't know, we'll see.

846
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:58,680
But I mean, why not?
Anyway, So yeah, going back now

847
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,080
that the going back to what Mike
was talking about earlier, the

848
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,560
fact that in 10 Chico is where
we meet up with Tom Maryland

849
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,800
again.
Apparently he did not die

850
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,520
fighting those fades.
And what's that season one that

851
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,040
we saw?
Yeah, yeah, season.

852
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:21,000
One So he's alive and well and
singing about the horn of the

853
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:27,040
Lear and who should so happen to
come across him but his good old

854
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:36,880
buddy Matt the horn blower.
Can you imagine when Matt says

855
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,560
come on, let's have a drink and
I'll tell you the whole bloody

856
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,840
tale?
And you're sitting there like

857
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,640
wait a minute.
So you and your red headed

858
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:48,000
friend, the one who was causing
so much trouble, he's the Dragon

859
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,920
Reborn and you're the bloody
horn blower.

860
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,320
I bet the Tom was like.
Of course they are.

861
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,240
Why wouldn't?
They Why would they be?

862
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,920
Right.
Well, I mean, you know that you

863
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,840
knew dark friends were coming
after them.

864
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,400
You knew fades were coming after
them.

865
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,720
They weren't coming after them
just because they were your

866
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:08,480
run-of-the-mill, you know,
children from wherever.

867
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,680
No, there was a there was a
reason they were coming after

868
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,840
them that strong.
And so now you're.

869
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,920
Didn't he save them from the
innkeeper chick in season 1 they

870
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,240
was trying to get?
Dart friend.

871
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,640
Yes, yes.
That's why I'm like, if you're

872
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,200
not putting it together Tom,
like OK Dart friend, check,

873
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:35,560
fade, check like and now you're
like, oh, whatever y'all got

874
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,280
going on.
I don't want nothing to do with

875
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,120
it, bro.
The moment you turned your face

876
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,320
and you saw Matt Coffin, you
were, you were in it, you were

877
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,160
in it.
And then you turn around, you

878
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,240
see Elaine because they're all
they're all undercover in Tan

879
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:54,200
Chico.
Elaine is, you know, talking up

880
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:59,120
the crowd and someone recognizes
her as the daughter heir Andor,

881
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,840
and he's the most.
Recognizable, unrecognizable

882
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,120
person that doesn't want to be
recognized but gets recognized

883
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,880
all the fucking time, right?
You know you're the daughter

884
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:10,760
here.
No, I'm not.

885
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,440
Yes you are.
You look just like her.

886
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,320
No, I'm not.
Right.

887
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:22,280
And OK, so this is my question.
Was she kind of sort of

888
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,960
sheltered?
Like she wasn't one of these

889
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,600
princesses that was just
traveling all over the country,

890
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,520
wasn't was she?
OK, I'll take this.

891
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:43,760
She Elaine.
OK, As a nerd, as somebody who

892
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,920
doesn't go out a lot, you tend
to investigate things.

893
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,680
Like me, for example.
I didn't, I didn't really play

894
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,920
outside a lot.
My mom bought 2-3 different sets

895
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,960
of encyclopedias and I read
every last page.

896
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,400
And I'm thinking that Elaine is
like that as well.

897
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,400
It's like maybe they wanted to
shelter or not let her get into

898
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,640
trouble or maybe get kidnapped
or all this other stuff.

899
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,040
So they gave her a big ass
library.

900
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,240
So she read every fucking book
in there.

901
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,120
And of course, the lyrics to The
Hills of Tan Chico and all this

902
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,200
other stuff is in there.
I mean, she probably, they're

903
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,600
probably, they probably had
peoples.

904
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:24,880
I mean, I, I think that she
probably was.

905
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,320
So I think Richmond can get
anything.

906
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,840
OK.
She's the daughter heir anytime.

907
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,480
You're a daughter and I get that
part.

908
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,240
I'm talking about the fact that
she's so recognizable when she

909
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:40,360
has not been paraded around like
your normal people would.

910
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:45,000
You know, like her mother, I get
the sense was very

911
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,560
overprotective of her and
probably kept a short leash on

912
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,920
her.
So it's not like she's one of

913
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,560
these princesses that's
traveling all around the

914
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,560
country, You know, everybody
looking at her.

915
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,440
Because I would think for
someone in her mother's

916
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,600
position, someone who ended up
with the throne because of a

917
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,720
war, she would know that she
probably has enemies.

918
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:14,040
And with Elaine being the
daughter heir, she probably kept

919
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,720
her out of sight because of
course, how you going to kidnap

920
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:19,800
the daughter Air if you don't
know what she looks like?

921
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,400
You you get what you you
understand what I'm saying.

922
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,320
So it's kind of like for her to
be all the way on the other side

923
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,760
of the world and somebody's
like, Oh, you look like the

924
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,680
daughter air of of Andor I it
just, I don't know, it kind of

925
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,160
seems strange.
And then the fact that Tom

926
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,680
recognized her and when Matt was
like, you know, the daughter

927
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,080
Aaron and or he said, I served
at her mother's court years ago.

928
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,280
How this is who she is like most
people change.

929
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,040
They their faces mature, they
look different and depending on

930
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,680
whenever it was that he was
there at her court, how would he

931
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,680
remember?
It's just that that just all

932
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:09,360
seemed kind of strange to me.
Well, if you have, you know, the

933
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,400
the Queen of Andor has a lot of
people come through her court

934
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,640
and a lot of artists come to the
court too.

935
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:24,080
And there's probably a lot of
artwork of the two of them, of

936
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:29,200
the royal family around
everywhere.

937
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:34,040
So if you travel enough, you've
seen pictures of her and the

938
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,160
artists are really good.
I mean, the likenesses are

939
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,000
really good.
So I'm pretty sure if you seen a

940
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,880
portrait of the daughter Air and
the queen, because everyone

941
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,160
needs to know what the Queen
looks like.

942
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,760
And remember, she's going to be
queen one day.

943
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,160
So people are going to know what
she looks like because they've

944
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,000
seen these portraits.
That this that's that's the only

945
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,840
thing I can think of because I
don't think this dude, he he

946
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,520
doesn't really look like he gets
out of Tan Chico too much.

947
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:00,880
Who?
The guy who?

948
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,440
Was who was flirting with him
yeah that's what she was like

949
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,800
how would you like the daughter
Aaron and.

950
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,360
But I'm, I'm sure they've,
they've seen portraits of them.

951
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,120
OK, yeah, 'cause, you know, they
don't have Facebook.

952
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,720
That's why Rand was able to walk
around, because no one was

953
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,600
drawing the picture of Rand.
No one was taking portraits of

954
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,360
him.
You know, Matt was you spending

955
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,600
all his money having the
portrait of him made?

956
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:30,520
Yeah.
Yeah.

957
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,280
And that's the only one.
The only one.

958
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,080
And then even the good likeness
of him either.

959
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,720
No, it actually is.
I like that again tonight.

960
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,560
I was like, yeah, put his head.
Up in the air, I'll smug.

961
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,520
Yes, a good likeness.
Yes, it is.

962
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,480
But that that would be, that
would be my guess that they've

963
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,080
seen portraits, OK.
And Tom is probably, even though

964
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,680
he's not in the court, he's
probably been keeping track of

965
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,360
them.
Yeah.

966
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,760
Watching a girl.
When I'm when Leandrin, Leandrin

967
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:13,720
kidnapped her and 19 did, did
they did her mother find out

968
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:18,680
about that?
No, but she knows some was it.

969
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,400
I think she knew something had
happened.

970
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,000
She, she knew about it, but I
think it was kind of sort of

971
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,240
after the fact because she
referenced it when she came to

972
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,640
the tower because she was like,
I want to make sure that she's

973
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,960
all right and blah, blah, blah.
And yeah, so I think she, I

974
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:40,320
think she knew, maybe not
immediately, but yeah, I, I, I

975
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,760
think that came out because she
had a quite a lengthy discussion

976
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,640
with someone about it.
Like she went off.

977
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,600
Yeah, but I don't, I don't.
I don't think she knew about the

978
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:50,520
kidnapping, though.
What I.

979
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,640
What I was thinking.
Because if she knew about the

980
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,240
kidnapping Elaine, she Elaine
won the stage, she wouldn't have

981
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,120
been able to make the lane
stage.

982
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,560
She tried.
She tried to make Elaine go and

983
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,680
Elaine put her foot down and
said I'm staying, I'm going to

984
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,080
complete my training.
She was like, if I'm going to

985
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:12,720
rule Andor then I need to, I
need to set my own path.

986
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,680
I need to do my own thing
because my mother was kind of

987
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,280
like, oh, OK.
I I believe you because I'm not

988
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,000
going to go back and rewatch the
episode.

989
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,640
So yeah.
I was, I was, I was saying that

990
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,840
because I would have thought
that if, if she was missing her

991
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,040
mother, her mother might have
put a reward poster out for her

992
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,480
like.
No.

993
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,320
If she was, if my mom knew, if
she was missing, she would have

994
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,800
gathered in the Army, Yeah.
That's why I said, I think it

995
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:46,840
was kind of after the fact.
But yeah, I, I think, yeah, I

996
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,240
because she, she did have some
words with Swan about it.

997
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,680
And Swan was basically like, oh,
well, we took care of, we went,

998
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,200
you know, we went and we got
her.

999
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,240
She's safe.
Because she basically was like,

1000
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,520
Oh yeah, you're you're leaving,
you're, you're coming back home.

1001
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,400
And Elaine had told Naive when
Naive was talking about.

1002
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,520
Going after Leandron and she was
pissed off about the fact that

1003
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,760
Elaine was leaving her.
And that was one of the things

1004
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,120
that made Elaine go to her mom.
Well, first she went to her

1005
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,600
quote UN quote stepfather and
talked to him and then she

1006
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,720
talked to her mom was like,
look, I need to set my own.

1007
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,760
Oh.
Yeah, I'm sorry.

1008
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,360
You threw me off.
You said stepfather.

1009
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,040
I was like, wait, what?
Yeah, Robin, remember.

1010
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,800
No, he's that stepfather.
He's he's the Queen consort.

1011
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,040
Consort.
They're not married.

1012
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,800
Oh, I thought they were married.
No.

1013
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,320
Ain't no ring on that finger.
I'm not married.

1014
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,080
OK.
But well, you know, stepfather

1015
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,160
type role, whatever.
But then she, you know, she

1016
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,760
turned around, she talked to her
mom about it.

1017
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,800
She's like, I need to forge my
own path if I'm going to rule.

1018
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,280
So, yeah, her mom was like, OK,
I don't like it, but OK.

1019
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,880
But she thought that Elaine was
going to stay there in the

1020
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,360
tower.
So she has no idea.

1021
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,920
Elaine sent that Chico.
She probably will find out now

1022
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:14,280
because of people in 10 Chico
are noticing the daughter Aaron

1023
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,880
and or, you know, mouth start
wagging.

1024
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,120
The word might get out that, oh,
we saw someone that looks like

1025
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,680
your daughter in 10 Chico and I
don't know, she might visit the

1026
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,680
tower again and be like, excuse
me, I thought, didn't I tell you

1027
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,480
that she was not to leave this
tower?

1028
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,160
It'll be like, have you met your
daughter?

1029
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:39,160
Right.
I don't know what you thought I

1030
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,800
was going to get.
You right.

1031
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,000
But yeah, so now you have this
group on Tan Chico.

1032
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,080
You you've got men, Matt, Elaine
I need.

1033
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:52,960
And now Tom, because Tom, at
this point, I feel like now he

1034
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,960
has a vested interest because
even though he's no longer part

1035
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,760
of her mother's court, like you
say, Anthony, he probably feels

1036
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,360
a little bit of responsibility.
And he's like, OK, if she don't

1037
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,040
got mixed up with these
knuckleheads, especially with

1038
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,600
Matt, let me go and just make
sure she's going to be OK.

1039
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:14,520
Because, you know, Matt is
almost like a trouble magnet.

1040
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:20,160
It follows him around.
So, yeah, now we have our Bard

1041
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,560
again, which was really nice.
I was glad to see him back

1042
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,760
because I really did wonder if
he was dead because like you

1043
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,960
said, you left me for dead
fighting and Fade.

1044
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,680
Yeah, but you were the one who
told him to leave.

1045
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,120
Yeah, I think because of the
strike he ended up doing

1046
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,920
something else when they came
back, so they had to ride him

1047
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,680
out OK, until he was available
again.

1048
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,720
Oh, OK.
The actor.

1049
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,600
OK, well I'm glad he's back.
This should be an interesting

1050
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:55,040
group now, but it's going to be
really interesting because while

1051
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,560
they're doing all of this, you
know, Elaine's doing the singing

1052
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,480
and not even men are not being
quiet at the bar.

1053
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,200
Matt is sitting here like
talking to some guys about the

1054
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,960
bracelets and the collar that
he's looking for.

1055
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,800
And after Elaine's very rousing
performance of the heels of Tan

1056
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,680
Chico several times, when they
get ready to leave, the guy

1057
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,160
comes up to Matt and he was
like, hey, I don't have your

1058
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,120
collar, but I do have this
bracelet that's like the one you

1059
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:26,360
talked, you told me about.
And he gives the bracelet to

1060
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,560
Nyneve and Elaine.
And of course, we, like we

1061
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:34,000
discussed earlier, Mogherian
finds out from it's fine that

1062
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,720
they have the bracelet.
She goes, she composes them, she

1063
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,640
gets the bracelet.
And they're sitting there now

1064
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,920
trying to figure out what the
hell happened to this bracelet.

1065
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,480
Like we were just here, we were
talking about it was just here

1066
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,160
in the bag and now it's not.
But I think the way that they

1067
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,200
looked at each other after all
of that, I think they know that

1068
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,000
somebody got to them because
Nineve has the cut on her face

1069
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,720
that wasn't there a few minutes
ago.

1070
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,120
You know, they started out
sitting on the bed and they wake

1071
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,840
up and they're walking back
towards the bed.

1072
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,560
They're just like something
don't seem right.

1073
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,320
And now the bracelet is gone.
Yeah.

1074
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,040
Somebody got to y'all.
Y'all were not subtle enough

1075
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,160
talking about Yeah 9 even the.
I will handle anything that

1076
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,640
requires more subtly.
Where?

1077
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,480
Where?
When and where?

1078
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,640
Where?
'Cause I don't think any of you

1079
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:29,160
know the meaning of that word.
Men's getting 19 drunk and then

1080
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,920
they're walking through the
thing all drunk. 19 is all

1081
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:40,120
giggly and she I was like, this
is a weird sight, but OK.

1082
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,880
So now we know that there's a
second bracelet.

1083
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:49,000
The second bracelet is gone.
Oh, I wanted to point out the

1084
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:54,280
the lyrics to the song.
It basically tells you it's like

1085
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,080
3 is too many when it's not
enough.

1086
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,320
You need 2 to bring a man to his
knees.

1087
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,960
Oh, oh, they're talking.
Look, they're talking about the

1088
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,160
bracelets, not.
About the bracelets, right?

1089
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,320
Well, it's sort of a mixture.
Yeah, well, yeah.

1090
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,440
I'm talking about two women with
the hills of 10 Chico.

1091
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,800
With hills of 10 Chico.
Yeah, but no, they're, they,

1092
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,960
they are talking about the
bracelets as well 'cause, you

1093
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,600
know, Leandron shows the, the
portrait of the statue.

1094
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,320
And then of course we saw part
of the statue in Leandron's

1095
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,160
origin story at the beginning.
So you do have the man down on

1096
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,960
his knees with his collar and
you have the two acid I on the

1097
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,960
side of him, both of them
wearing bracelets.

1098
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:49,760
So basically what they're saying
is it takes two women 2 acid I

1099
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,320
because I don't think anybody
that's not acid I could wield

1100
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,440
those bracelets, right.
Like you can't, you can't just

1101
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,840
have a random person wield those
bracelets.

1102
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,760
Like I can't go and wield a
bracelet and Michelle go wheeled

1103
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:08,280
a bracelet and you know.
I would.

1104
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,520
I would stay away from saying I,
said I and the woman who could

1105
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,800
channel.
OK, well, I say I said I because

1106
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,920
that's that's what Leandron
describes in the picture, she

1107
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,320
said.
These are two, I said I standing

1108
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,280
behind.
Him she's assuming their I said

1109
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:28,560
I.
OK, OK, OK.

1110
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,920
Like you wouldn't call the
Sudam, I said.

1111
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,480
I.
Oh, true, true.

1112
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,440
But they can they can wield it.
OK, So it's not just Leandra nor

1113
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:45,720
the other sisters who could
wield those bracelets if they

1114
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,280
needed to.
Like, let's say if Rand was

1115
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,680
starting to go into his madness
and he was starting to kill

1116
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:56,360
people and they had that collar,
Naive and Elaine would be able

1117
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,080
to seduce him with the collar,
OK?

1118
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:03,120
OK, the twins could any anyone
who could channel.

1119
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,560
Ah, yes, OK.
And, you know, it took me a long

1120
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,400
time to realize that his sisters
were twins because I don't think

1121
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,000
I realized they were twins when
when we first.

1122
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,560
I'm not sure if they were.
Oh, OK.

1123
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,560
I'm not going to go back and
look at the first season.

1124
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:25,480
I'm just not going to do a
rewatch, but if my memory serves

1125
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,600
I'm not sure if they were twins.
OK, I don't think they were

1126
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:34,320
either, but I but I wonder, does
them being twins make them more

1127
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,600
powerful?
No, no.

1128
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,880
OK, OK, I was, I was just
curious 'cause I was wondering

1129
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,360
why they, you know, if they did
make that change, like why would

1130
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,440
they make that change?
Is it?

1131
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,320
Was it something significant?
If I remember correctly in the

1132
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,000
book, only one of them could
channel.

1133
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,680
If I remember, if I remember
correctly, I'm sure someone real

1134
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,720
correct me.
But if I remember, I think only

1135
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:02,480
one of them showed the ability
ability to channel because, you

1136
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,040
know, the book is a little
different from the the the show.

1137
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,920
There are people who are born
who can channel and those who

1138
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,560
are born with the ability to
learn how to channel.

1139
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:20,399
And that's how the Sean Chan get
the the Saddam is they're mostly

1140
01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:25,000
women who have the ability to
channel, but they aren't

1141
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,200
actually able, you know, they're
not actually actively

1142
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,800
channeling.
OK, Yeah.

1143
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,240
Does that make sense?
Yep.

1144
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,319
OK.
Because that's how Gwen figured

1145
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:37,120
out that she could kill.
What's her name?

1146
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,319
Because she was like, oh, yeah,
there's something the same about

1147
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:42,439
us.
She was like, I can channel, but

1148
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,000
you have that ability.
Because other than that, I

1149
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,720
can't.
I couldn't understand how you

1150
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,720
were able to control us, you
know, and why our powers

1151
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,960
connect.
Yeah, because you actually have

1152
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,560
some power that you just don't
know about.

1153
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,680
She she has the ability to
channel.

1154
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,080
She was.
And that's what they were using

1155
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,080
to do the controlling.
Yeah, they were controlling

1156
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,000
women who were actually born
that actually could channel.

1157
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,600
Yeah, so that's OK.
That witch is dead.

1158
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:15,359
So anyway, since we're talking
about her, let's go, let's go

1159
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:19,640
over to that side of the world
and and talk about all this

1160
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:25,760
stuff with more rain and land
and E Gwain and all of them.

1161
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,439
Oh, the waste.
Let's go to the IEO waste.

1162
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:37,920
Yeah, let's go to the IEO waste.
Lampier seems to have her hand

1163
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,680
in too many pots.
She is jumping in and out of E

1164
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,680
Gwen's dreams.
She's now revealed herself to E

1165
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,920
Gwen.
She's jumping in Meringue's

1166
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,680
dreams.
Somebody need to kill this woman

1167
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,720
'cause she is she, she doing too
much?

1168
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,440
She's doing too much.
And let me tell you, she pissed

1169
01:09:58,440 --> 01:10:03,080
me off so much when she when she
jumped into E Gwen's dream and

1170
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:07,560
she starts taunting her and E
Gwen is like, he doesn't know

1171
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,840
that you're for a second.
Oh, yeah, He knows everything.

1172
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,360
He knows everything.
And even when Iguan says, if

1173
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,760
Rand knew you put your hands on
me, she was like, he knew it.

1174
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,160
He knows everything.
No, I'm so sorry.

1175
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,560
I understand land fears whole
thing is to throw.

1176
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,880
She's trying to throw Iguan off
her game and she's trying to

1177
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,920
make it seem like, Oh no, Rand
knows is the person that you

1178
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,480
love knows I'm torturing you,
but he just doesn't care.

1179
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:39,880
No, because regardless of how
you feel about Rand and

1180
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,680
regardless of what you think
about all this stuff done, one

1181
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,760
thing is tried and true.
That joking don't play about

1182
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,240
Eguane.
I don't care who it is.

1183
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:54,480
So the fact that Lanfear even
fixed her mouth to say as much

1184
01:10:54,600 --> 01:11:01,360
and Eguane was kind of sort of
believing it, to me, that kind

1185
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:09,600
of proves Rand's feelings about
Egwane was never really about

1186
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:14,320
him.
Because if Egwane knew Rand the

1187
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,360
way she should know Rand, she
would have not like Will like

1188
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,000
she said Rand wouldn't.
Rand would be pissed if he knew

1189
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,280
you were putting your hands on
me.

1190
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,720
But the fact that Landfair was
like, oh, he knows.

1191
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,920
He knows.
And you believe that like.

1192
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:32,200
That's the problem.
That that's a problem and and

1193
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,720
I'm glad he called her out on
that because she wants to get

1194
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,680
mad at him for sleeping with a
Forsaken, which, OK, Rand, you

1195
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,240
could have easily said, well,
when I knew her, I didn't know

1196
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,720
she was Forsaken.
You could have easily said that.

1197
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:49,760
But the conversation that they
had needed to have because Rand

1198
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,960
had to let her know that.
OK, yeah, you sit here mad and

1199
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,880
all, but you ain't thought about
me since we got here.

1200
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,440
Since you've been with the Wise
Ones, you haven't thought about

1201
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:00,640
me.
You haven't looked for me.

1202
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,520
Several times in this episode,
Rand has been like, oh, I was

1203
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,280
going to go see Gwen.
I want to talk.

1204
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,800
See Dwayne?
Because he was trying to fix

1205
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,880
what she saw, or he was trying
to at least explain it.

1206
01:12:11,480 --> 01:12:15,200
But the fact that you so
obsessed with everything else

1207
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,840
and then you come to him and
then you want to go off on him.

1208
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,840
Oh, you betrayed me, you lied to
me, blah, blah, blah, blah blah.

1209
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,040
You been with her.
Da da da da da.

1210
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,680
You ain't noticed until just
now.

1211
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,480
What does that say about you?
Yeah, and why?

1212
01:12:31,480 --> 01:12:35,040
Why would he?
He he doesn't even need need to

1213
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,440
explain it to her.
Like he didn't need need to say,

1214
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,120
well, when I met her, she was
Celine and you know, she took me

1215
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,640
in and yeah, we were doing all
this and I didn't know she was.

1216
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:50,240
He don't need to explain all
that because one, he's known for

1217
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:54,040
a long time.
If we don't want him, he's like,

1218
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:59,840
I'm the Dragon Reborn and still
I'm not enough, you know?

1219
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,320
So he doesn't have to explain to
her.

1220
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,800
He's in this fight when she
said, well, do you love her?

1221
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,240
He didn't really owe her an
answer.

1222
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,280
He really didn't.
Because you don't want me

1223
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,400
anyway.
It wouldn't matter whether he

1224
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:18,480
said yes or no.
Because Lanthier has made it

1225
01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:23,160
plain that she wants him.
But.

1226
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,800
He may not like you say,
Hanukkah.

1227
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,640
He may not even be able to
explain his feelings for her

1228
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,920
anyway.
He doesn't.

1229
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,960
He probably doesn't even know he
he can't.

1230
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,080
It's complicated.
It's complicated.

1231
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,120
And that's.
Not easy.

1232
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,800
Quick.
Yeah, it's not easy question to

1233
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,760
answer.
So yeah, he could have explained

1234
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,080
all that away, but it doesn't
really explain his feelings.

1235
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:46,600
No it doesn't.
But.

1236
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,680
Her.
Feelings so much you don't

1237
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,400
understand and I wish I could
explain it to you.

1238
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,440
Yeah, but her feelings are
clear.

1239
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,720
Eguane's feelings are clear.
Yeah, he loves him.

1240
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,600
I don't, I don't.
I'm not saying that she doesn't

1241
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,000
love him, but she does not love
him in the way that he loves

1242
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,120
her.
Like when Ran, even from the

1243
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:12,120
first episode, when Ran listed
Eguane, he sees happily ever

1244
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:17,640
after for him and she never has.
I don't think you know.

1245
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,840
And maybe she imagined it at one
point, but once she realized she

1246
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,720
had this power and that she
could be something greater,

1247
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,440
that's all she was focused on.
And I'm not, I'm not faulting

1248
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:32,320
her for that because it's good
to see a woman have ambition

1249
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:33,880
that doesn't have to do with the
man.

1250
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,760
I I'm never going to be mad
about that.

1251
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,240
You know that she is not just so
wrapped up in Ran that she's

1252
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:45,600
going to ignore everything else
that she could have just to help

1253
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,880
him, just to help him fulfill
the thing.

1254
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,320
Yeah.
But there but there are

1255
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,360
consequences and repercussions
for making those decisions.

1256
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,720
Yeah, yeah.
And the and the and here's the

1257
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,720
thing, again, something that I
said all the way to the first

1258
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:06,600
season, the way that they handle
those relationship issues, I

1259
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,800
still admire because yes, they
had a little bit of a shouting

1260
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,200
session with this, which I think
they needed.

1261
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:18,240
But at the same time, when Rand
tells her, you've always wanted

1262
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:22,760
more and I will, he said, I will
always respect you for that

1263
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:28,280
because she didn't, you know,
just say, OK, well, I'm going to

1264
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,360
focus on him.
He's the Dragon Reborn.

1265
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,640
I'm going to focus on, you know,
what he needs to do.

1266
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,000
Yes, she had those moments, but
once she realized that she also

1267
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,120
had a greater purpose, she did
focus on that.

1268
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,480
And I think he, he does love
that about her, that she's not

1269
01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:45,680
going to be like, OK, I'm just
going to sit to the side and

1270
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,760
ignore whatever that is a very
Admiral thing.

1271
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,600
But again.
Yeah, but also even back, even

1272
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,880
back in the Two Rivers when she
said when she made the decision

1273
01:15:55,880 --> 01:16:01,320
to become an apprentice, to be a
wisdom, he's like, that means we

1274
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,080
can't, we can't, we can't be
together.

1275
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,520
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a choice that you

1276
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,880
made, you know, and I'm not
knocking her for it.

1277
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,320
That's what she wanted.
And that's basically what he's

1278
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,440
saying now.
Even back then, you wanted more.

1279
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:18,400
You just didn't want to have a
marriage with me, raise kids

1280
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,440
with me.
That's what he wanted.

1281
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,360
She wanted to become a wisdom
that meant they could.

1282
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:25,440
They weren't going to be
together.

1283
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,720
Yeah.
And I think if you were to give

1284
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,760
them the choice right now, if
you were to say, OK, be the

1285
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,640
Dragon Reborn or be Wayne's
husband, I think he would choose

1286
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,920
being a Wayne's husband.
And all day, every.

1287
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:43,520
Day her being a being a isodide
being, you know, I mean, she saw

1288
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,800
a vision of herself as the
ambulance seat having that kind

1289
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,080
of power or being Rand's wife,
which would you do?

1290
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,120
I think she would choose the
power.

1291
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,480
Well, actually I'm going to take
that back.

1292
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:58,800
Before Lewidian he would have
said Big Wayne's husband.

1293
01:16:59,480 --> 01:17:02,720
After Lewidian he would chose
Jaggery Born.

1294
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,080
Fairpoint.
Fairpoint.

1295
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,120
Fairpoint, Yeah, but but.
You're right though, the the

1296
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:09,680
sentiment is right.
You're right though, yeah.

1297
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:17,160
They're exhausting.
I'm every time I see them trying

1298
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,080
to get together, I'm just like,
oh God, I'm going.

1299
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,000
It's like it's more more
exhausting than my than my dog

1300
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,000
being being mournful and
lamenting, lamenting his wife,

1301
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,720
which he deserves, but it's
still exhausting.

1302
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,960
It's like, I guess it's more
exhausting than I need hiding

1303
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,240
her powers even though she.
No, it is not.

1304
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,160
No, it is not.
Because at least with Randy

1305
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:45,040
Gwen, we know that there is a
commonality to them.

1306
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,560
They both love each other.
We understand that.

1307
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:53,440
The problem is they both have
different goals or they both

1308
01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:55,840
have different ideas of what
that looks like.

1309
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,320
And it's kind of been a push and
pull.

1310
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,880
And now they're finally at a
point where they're saying, OK,

1311
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,200
this is probably not going to
work, work the way we want to

1312
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,680
work.
Us seeing them get to that

1313
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,560
point, yeah, it was a little bit
of a journey.

1314
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:16,760
But as exhausting as naive, not
no, absolutely not naive.

1315
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,200
And her refusal to use her
power, that is the most

1316
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,520
exhausting thing about this show
to me.

1317
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:28,400
But.
But going back to not Iguane and

1318
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:36,160
Ran, when Iguane ask him, did
you know and he was like, what

1319
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,480
are you talking about?
She was like, did you know that?

1320
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:41,280
You know everything that I've
been dealing with in my dreams,

1321
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,560
the soul Dom torture me and all
this other stuff.

1322
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:48,360
That was her.
The look on Rand's face and the

1323
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,920
way it changed once it was
clicking to him what she was

1324
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,760
saying, because you could see he
was kind of refusing like, no,

1325
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,720
she wouldn't do that.
And then you got to think, oh,

1326
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,400
this is Lamb fear.
She would absolutely do that.

1327
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:05,880
But if Gwen had her point
proven, because when she said if

1328
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,480
Rand knew you put your hands on
me.

1329
01:19:07,480 --> 01:19:10,000
The moment Rand figured it out,
the moment it clicked,

1330
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,200
everything started shaking.
I said, oh, Lampy about to get

1331
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:20,560
her ass, but of course her, her
so-called present comes in at

1332
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,120
that time, which is what was
that?

1333
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:23,880
Samuel?
Samuel.

1334
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:29,120
Yeah.
Comes in to attack them and they

1335
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,760
start fighting and Gwen starts
fighting she gets hurt but then

1336
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,080
Ivienda comes in with her Spears
and Ivienda was like look I

1337
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,680
understand I'm a wise one now
but I'm a still be able to whoop

1338
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,480
your ass and that's what.
She she put, she put that villa.

1339
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,000
So you need to.
This is going to die.

1340
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,840
Listen.
Listen.

1341
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:48,920
She tried.
She tried in, she tried in a

1342
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,560
Scorpion for Mortal Kombat.
She was like.

1343
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,720
Get over here.
She was whipping some ass.

1344
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,840
Do you hear me?
Yeah, she almost got Grim.

1345
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,640
She almost got Samuel.
She almost, Yeah, she almost

1346
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,080
did.
But she.

1347
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:07,960
Stabbed his butt.
Yeah, but he he ends up what

1348
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,720
does he he he brings down his, I
guess that's a hammer.

1349
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,200
Hammer, Yeah.
Knocks them all outside and then

1350
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,520
when they're outside, Rand is on
the ground.

1351
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,680
He looks up.
Avienda and Gwen are both

1352
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:25,920
unconscious again.
Rand is proving his point.

1353
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:30,240
Don't fuck with E Gwen because
he literally you see his whole

1354
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,400
face change like Rand is not
there.

1355
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,480
The dragon is there right now.
He's pissed.

1356
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:40,280
And he even look at them I am he
literally just stood up and just

1357
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:44,960
like.
He he blocked his attacks

1358
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,720
without even turning around.
Without even turning around, he

1359
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,800
held those weaves in his hand
like.

1360
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:58,480
But then the whole problem
happens to be he causes the

1361
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:06,400
house to cave in, not knowing
that our Sarah is inside and she

1362
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,880
dies.
And this is the little girl who

1363
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:14,080
is Bear's granddaughter.
She's the one he owes, he owed

1364
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,560
the tour to.
Yeah, yeah, so.

1365
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,440
But yeah, she's the one that has
kind of wrapped herself around

1366
01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:23,680
his finger.
And, you know, he's taken, he's

1367
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,480
taken a, a, a liking to her
because she's, you know, she's

1368
01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:32,160
young, she's fierce.
And she I think has patience in

1369
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,560
teaching him a little bit about
their ways more than anybody

1370
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:39,240
else does, especially Abienda.
And I think he appreciated that

1371
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,000
about her because you see the
way he kind of treats her, even

1372
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,560
though she's a child, she's only
like, what, 9 or 10?

1373
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:51,840
He treats her with a lot of
respect, you know, and the fact

1374
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:56,680
that she dies and he does
everything in his power to try

1375
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,160
to bring this girl back.
I watched this part of the

1376
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,520
episode sobbing because he
really thought he was like, I'm

1377
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,400
the Dragon Reborn.
I can do anything.

1378
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,040
I can do this.
I can do this.

1379
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,880
He's like I bring destruction
and I can bring creation.

1380
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,480
And I was just, oh, that hurt me
so much because they kept trying

1381
01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:18,560
to tell him, Ran, she's gone.
You can't do this.

1382
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:23,280
You can't do this.
And and we see like earlier in

1383
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,200
the episode, he's having a
conversation with Moraine and

1384
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:32,080
Moraine is talking about trying
to use the Sarconan, which she

1385
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,880
got in Ruidian.
And she says, how do you how do

1386
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,240
you control it?
How do you submit to your your

1387
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,040
power?
Because I feel like if I submit

1388
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,240
to it fully, I'm going to lose
myself.

1389
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,880
And Ram was like, don't submit
was like, don't do it.

1390
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,160
You will lose yourself, he said.
Even now I feel it trying to

1391
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:49,840
touch me.
I feel like calling to me.

1392
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,280
He was like, and I have to, I
have to, you know, kind of hold

1393
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,600
it off every second, he said.
But the moment I reach for it a

1394
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,880
little bit and you saw what
started happening, like

1395
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,160
literally the ground is shaking,
everything is shaking.

1396
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:03,760
He looks like he's not even in
his body.

1397
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,760
And this is just him letting go
of a little bit of that control.

1398
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:18,240
So I was sitting here thinking
if he has to constantly 24/7 be

1399
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:24,320
holding it off, I, I'm sorry,
I'm I'm gonna excuse most of

1400
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:29,440
what he does or says because his
concentration is not on just

1401
01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:32,840
regular life.
He is all the time fighting this

1402
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:38,120
power that threatens to take
over him and consume him and

1403
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,000
drive him to madness.
He is forever fighting that off

1404
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:48,080
and to see him have to he, he's
literally trying to embrace all

1405
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,840
of that at the end in order to
bring this little girl back.

1406
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,880
But I guess it's just like other
like true magic systems.

1407
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,880
One thing you can't do is alter
death.

1408
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,600
No.
Well, unless you're unless

1409
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,600
you're a necromaster.
That's a whole different thing.

1410
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:09,080
You he was, he almost was sort
of explaining the difference

1411
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:13,400
between men and women
channeling, because I think I

1412
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:18,440
said this before, for women,
they have to embrace the source.

1413
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,880
You know, they have to let it
flow through them to control it.

1414
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,800
And men have to seize the source
like it's there and they have to

1415
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:32,480
seize it and control it.
It's it's doesn't sound that

1416
01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:36,120
different, but it's very
different ways they have to do

1417
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,240
it.
But he said something very

1418
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,320
important.
He was like, the one thing that

1419
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:43,240
we've learned is that I said I
don't know really much about the

1420
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,160
one power.
Yeah.

1421
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,040
And and that and that is true.
They don't know as much as they

1422
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,160
should because a lot of it has
been lost.

1423
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,560
A lot of the knowledge has been
lost.

1424
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:59,480
But there is, he is wrong.
There is a difference between

1425
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,320
that.
But he's sort of right in

1426
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:05,440
telling her not to submit fully,
which is the same thing as

1427
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,640
seizing it and not controlling
it, because that's what he's

1428
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,920
talking about.
He's like, I can grab it, I can

1429
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,480
seize it.
But if I lose control, I, I, I

1430
01:25:15,480 --> 01:25:17,840
can cause some problems.
You lose yourself.

1431
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,880
Same thing with the women.
They see.

1432
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,480
They can embrace too much of it.
And that's how they burn

1433
01:25:23,480 --> 01:25:27,920
themselves out, which is what
happened to, I can't remember

1434
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:33,000
her name, but in season 1 when
she had surrendered completely

1435
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,880
to it and burned herself out and
almost burned out not even.

1436
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,960
Not even Wayne and she burned
out, I think two other channels.

1437
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,400
Yeah.
The city, yeah.

1438
01:25:44,440 --> 01:25:47,560
Yeah, 'cause she just let it all
come in and that that was too

1439
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:54,320
much.
Yeah, But yeah, seeing Ran

1440
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,440
realized that he can't do
anything to to bring out Sarah

1441
01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:04,880
back, I that hurt my heart so
much because now this is

1442
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,520
something that he's going to
carry with him.

1443
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,280
I think in the same way that
parent was carrying Layla's

1444
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,000
death.
But it's like it it wasn't

1445
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,200
something that he did on
purpose.

1446
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:18,200
He was sitting there having a
regular old breakup conversation

1447
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,080
with his girlfriend, and this
man came into his house, started

1448
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:25,000
attacking him and basically hurt
two people in front of him.

1449
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,000
And at the time, I don't think
Rand knew whether or not Egwayne

1450
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,000
and Avienda were dead or alive.
They were knocked out.

1451
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,240
He had no way of knowing.
But when Samuel got up behind

1452
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,320
him and tried to attack him
again, the only thing he could

1453
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:42,680
think of was, OK, you know what?
He needs to die or he needs to

1454
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,680
be put down.
I don't know if he's dead or

1455
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:48,920
not, but he yeah, we just.
This can't happen.

1456
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,960
This scene, it actually the
bullet occurs later.

1457
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,440
Without being too spoiler, it
occurs in the stone, in the

1458
01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:05,040
Stone of Tear where there's a
battle and a child gets killed

1459
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:10,200
and Ran tries to bring the child
back and he's on the verge of

1460
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,240
complete madness.
Because the more power you

1461
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:17,680
channel, the faster you become,
the faster you get there.

1462
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:25,360
And you know that's and you're
right, he starts carrying around

1463
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:30,320
the burden of the women that
dies for him.

1464
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:36,160
Once again, not giving away too
much, but every time a woman

1465
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:41,800
dies for him or in his presence
or because of him, he does like

1466
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,840
the Arya thing.
He has a running list in his

1467
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:50,920
head of, of this responsibility
of all these women that just

1468
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,720
keep dying for him.
He just, he has this list.

1469
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,640
He just keeps putting names on
this list.

1470
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,520
And that's one of those things
that's driving him to become

1471
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:05,160
this cold, uncaring, unfeeling
person because he's trying to

1472
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:09,560
harden himself against
everything that's happening, but

1473
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,200
he also is trying to carry that
burden, too.

1474
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:16,440
The book is really good.
You know, from a therapist

1475
01:28:16,440 --> 01:28:19,160
standpoint, 'cause he got some
serious issues.

1476
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,320
I can imagine.
Serious, serious issues.

1477
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,520
Yeah.
But he does and and it it, it

1478
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:33,040
gets to be a pretty big list for
him because of what he's doing

1479
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:34,360
and what he's trying to
accomplish.

1480
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:39,600
Right, so much on on such young
shoulders.

1481
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:44,480
Yeah.
But you know, it it it makes me

1482
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:50,760
think back to you see this a lot
in young adult lit.

1483
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:56,320
And we did a panel about this at
dragon kind, I guess maybe like

1484
01:28:56,480 --> 01:29:00,760
13 years ago.
And the topic was growing up to

1485
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,360
save the world.
And it was talking about all of

1486
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:08,040
these teenage protagonists who
basically have the weight of the

1487
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,080
world literally on their
shoulders because they are the

1488
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,600
ones who are the saviors.
You think about, you know, your

1489
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,800
Harry Potter's, your Katniss
Everdeen's, your Tris Pryors,

1490
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:27,200
and, you know, good grief.
I could go on, but it's just a

1491
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,600
lot for someone like him to deal
with.

1492
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:34,120
And then you're dealing with
other regular things on top of

1493
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,000
that.
Let's take out the fact that

1494
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:42,040
Landfair is a forsaken.
You have this this love triangle

1495
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:46,040
situation going on because you
know you inadvertently fell in

1496
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,720
love with someone who was there
for you at a time when you were

1497
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,720
lost.
You were abandoned or not

1498
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,000
necessarily abandoned, but you
know, you didn't have any of

1499
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,480
your people around you.
This person took you in.

1500
01:29:56,480 --> 01:29:58,280
Like you said, Anthony, she took
you in.

1501
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,120
She gave you shelter, She helped
you.

1502
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,360
And you know, you end up falling
in love with her.

1503
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,720
Then you find out that she's
this evil thing.

1504
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,520
You can't really just turn those
feelings off.

1505
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,720
And then you add the past
relationship from his past life

1506
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,360
that complicates things more.
And then you have this other

1507
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:21,480
girl who you are totally madly
in love with, who does not

1508
01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:23,720
necessarily feel the same way
about you.

1509
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:28,280
Or maybe she does love him that
much, but she loves kind of her

1510
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:32,160
independence, Oregon her own
thing better, what she's

1511
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:36,120
searching for.
That's just a little bit more

1512
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,200
important to her.
So you're dealing with this

1513
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,240
stuff and then you find out, oh,
I'm supposed to be the destroyer

1514
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,960
and the savour of worlds.
And it's, it's a lot.

1515
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,280
And these kids don't get
therapy, I think.

1516
01:30:47,440 --> 01:30:52,680
Him and Moraine talking in this.
That's about as much therapy as

1517
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,000
he's going to get.
Yeah, either one of them are

1518
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,600
going to get because he tells
her he was like, you haven't

1519
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:01,160
spoken to me since Rowenian.
And she's sitting there thinking

1520
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:02,560
about all the stuff that she's
seeing.

1521
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,800
And he starts asking, do I go
mad sometimes?

1522
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:08,320
Do I kill Wayne?
Sometimes.

1523
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:12,520
Do I kill you sometimes?
That's a lot to carry.

1524
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:16,560
Basically Doctor Strange in in
Infinity Wars.

1525
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:21,680
It's like seeing things fit.
1.517 million possibilities.

1526
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:26,520
And then the one that works.
But with with this, we just

1527
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:31,240
don't know, you know, and he he
tries to kind of deflect and

1528
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:34,000
says, I thought we were supposed
to know more when we came out of

1529
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,720
there than we did going in.
She was like, oh, I know more,

1530
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,160
don't you?
And he was like, yeah, but I

1531
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,960
think in his mind, it's like,
that's not the more I wanted to

1532
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,920
know.
I want to know how this ends.

1533
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,640
I want to know if I'm going to
go mad.

1534
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,080
I want to know if I'm going to
kill the people that I love.

1535
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,280
I want to know, am I going to be
able to fulfill this destiny

1536
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,000
that I've been given?
And of course, he doesn't know

1537
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,640
that because what will be the
whole point of the journey if if

1538
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:01,520
you're just giving that
information, you know, and I

1539
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:05,480
really, again, I really, I know
we have two episodes for this

1540
01:32:05,480 --> 01:32:09,120
season, but I really hate that
we're not going to see this

1541
01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:11,680
goes.
Well, you can read the books you

1542
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,600
don't know where it.
Goes I can do that and I

1543
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,560
probably will end up doing that,
but I've I've got.

1544
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,920
You're right, though, the, the
burden and responsibility makes

1545
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,880
him, he starts to lose sort of
like his connection to humanity,

1546
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:31,040
you know, and, and something
that happens later, it has to be

1547
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,480
done because someone who's,
who's kind of watching him,

1548
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:40,080
trying to take care of him.
She has to manipulate a

1549
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:45,400
situation to where he remembers
that he's actually human and

1550
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:49,000
that it's OK to have feelings
and, and emotions.

1551
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:54,120
But because he almost killed
kills she, she manipulates the

1552
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,040
situations where he literally
almost kills someone he cares

1553
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:01,000
about, like almost.
And that's when he, he was like,

1554
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:06,600
wait a second, what am I doing?
And it sort of brings him back.

1555
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,560
OK.
But yeah, it because it became a

1556
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:15,080
lot, you know, it became a lot.
These people are dying for you,

1557
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,480
the expectations for you, the
things that you're supposed to

1558
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:21,680
do.
And this prophecy that you're,

1559
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,080
you're trying to fulfill it
because you feel the

1560
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,800
responsibility for it, because
you're the only one that can

1561
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:34,600
save everybody.
Yeah, and I really hate that we

1562
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,040
won't.
Everything that you just

1563
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:42,040
described, I'm literally seeing
it in my head and seeing the way

1564
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:46,840
that Yoshi would portray it, and
I really, really hate that.

1565
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:50,920
We are not going to get that
because I feel like he would be

1566
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:55,200
phenomenal doing all of that.
Yeah, 'cause he's been

1567
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,280
incredible.
Incredible.

1568
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:03,320
This season in particular.
OK, we won't go.

1569
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:07,440
We won't.
I'm just.

1570
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:17,960
Anyway, did we forget anything?
See I.

1571
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,560
Don't think so, I will.
Send me.

1572
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:27,360
Out we covered the heels of Tan
Chico as being Londonly.

1573
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:39,840
It was funny when it when Elaine
when she suggested that song

1574
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,680
cause Tom was looking at her
like how you know this song

1575
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:43,840
exactly?
What?

1576
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,160
What you know about you like.
You sure you wanna sing this and

1577
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,800
you like, OK, Then when she
actually starts singing,

1578
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,600
everybody's like, oh, oh, tell
me.

1579
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:57,400
Like, yeah.
Tom Maryland is one of the best

1580
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:01,400
characters in the book.
That makes me happy.

1581
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:05,160
He's 'cause I like him in the
show, even even just a little

1582
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:08,600
bits that we've seen of him, I
like him in the show.

1583
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:14,280
Yeah, he's one of the best
players of the the game, the

1584
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,480
great game.
OK, even though he's he's left

1585
01:35:17,480 --> 01:35:21,840
the court, he he's, he's very
good.

1586
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:27,680
I have to find a good copy of
the first book so that I can

1587
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:31,040
start reading because the copies
that I have, I have one that's

1588
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,880
the really, really small
paperback mass market, which,

1589
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,720
you know, the, the font is about
this big.

1590
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:42,600
And then I have one other one
that's slightly bigger, but the

1591
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:46,120
font is not much better.
And I don't want to sit here

1592
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,120
just like this trying to read
the books.

1593
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:52,720
But I'm I guess I'm gonna have
to start now since we're not

1594
01:35:52,720 --> 01:36:00,680
getting any more show, but OK,
let's.

1595
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,040
Call it all over again.
Mike, you have any shout outs

1596
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,840
before we put this to bed?
Yeah, shout out to shout out to

1597
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:12,760
Elena when when fail and parent
were making out, he interrupted

1598
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,440
them.
I'm like, really?

1599
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,880
I I heard somebody some healing
like yeah, it's like parent,

1600
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,440
parent about to get some sexual
healing.

1601
01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:26,400
You need to wait about, not.
Not while other people are in

1602
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:30,040
the house, 'cause come on now,
you, you, you just had the twins

1603
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:33,520
going up and down the stairs.
So I think he's a little bit

1604
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:35,600
more mindful.
But you know.

1605
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,600
Oh, the disappointment on Fayo's
face, on the disappointment on

1606
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:43,640
Fayo's face when he said that
some they found the horn and and

1607
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,240
his friend blew it, he feels.
Like that's my way.

1608
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:53,640
That's the Horn of Villaire, and
that's your friend Matt, and

1609
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,040
that's your friend Matt blowing
the horn of the Lear.

1610
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,800
He blew the horn of the Lear.
And you could tell parent was

1611
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,960
just getting amused because she
was just like, what?

1612
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,240
What?
What?

1613
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:12,720
Oh my God.
I just, I'm glad they found a

1614
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:16,480
way to keep Alana around at
least for another another

1615
01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:21,920
episode or two.
I'm Oh my God, because I've,

1616
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,280
I've just become more and more
attached to her.

1617
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:28,520
Like I've become more and more
of a fan of hers and.

1618
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,960
She is like one of my top
favorite characters of this

1619
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,800
show.
Yeah.

1620
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:36,560
Yeah, no, no spoiler, but she,
she, she hangs around for a

1621
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,720
while.
Good, that'll give me something

1622
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:41,600
to look forward to when I read
the books.

1623
01:37:42,440 --> 01:37:44,880
She hangs around for for a
while.

1624
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:48,640
Yeah.
And I'm.

1625
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:53,920
I'm, I'm glad she stuck around
too, because again, I don't

1626
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:59,120
think I would have been ready to
see Maxim's reaction if

1627
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:03,360
something had happened to her so
soon after losing Ivan.

1628
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:06,400
That just.
Yeah, I'm not ready for that.

1629
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:07,640
He.
Wouldn't he wouldn't have been

1630
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:08,560
able to.
He wouldn't have made it.

1631
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:10,080
That wouldn't have.
Happened.

1632
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:17,800
I don't think so, but the fact
that Dane is still sitting there

1633
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,840
next to Natty's body, first of
all, the fact that they haven't

1634
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:25,920
even had the decency to just
remove her body and and bury her

1635
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,320
or do whatever.
They they they still have her

1636
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,640
sitting on that thing.
That just makes me hate child

1637
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:36,400
Balda even more.
Like, I don't know how much more

1638
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:40,400
you can hate this character, but
whatever it is, I'm there

1639
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:46,040
because why?
Why?

1640
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:51,920
Yeah, and plus, I mean that not
now that I look at it, I'm like,

1641
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:57,120
I feel, I feel even, I feel even
worse for the girls because it's

1642
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:03,280
like it's obvious that if it
feels like their mother took the

1643
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,880
blame for their channeling and
it's just like.

1644
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:11,560
But you know what, they're
probably used to that if if, if

1645
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:15,440
they've shown their channeling
ability for a while, she's

1646
01:39:15,440 --> 01:39:20,000
probably been protecting them
for a long while to make sure

1647
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,520
that the Isidye don't come from
for them.

1648
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,520
I mean, because she's already
lost her oldest child, you know,

1649
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,440
because of the whole prophecy
thing.

1650
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:35,320
And she doesn't, you know, she
doesn't even know what's going

1651
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:39,400
on with Matt at this point.
But also, my question is,

1652
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,680
where's her husband?
Cuz didn't they take her

1653
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:51,120
husband?
I think this wasn't he and Tam

1654
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,600
outdoor hiding somewhere with
the with one of the family.

1655
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,920
Parents, family.
OK, yes, so OK.

1656
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:04,360
Oh well, OK.
Any final thoughts?

1657
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:09,400
Tam can't be around because he's
a blade master and the white

1658
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,160
clothes will be in trouble.
Oh, what?

1659
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,040
Well, no, that's all the more
reason for him to come back.

1660
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,040
All the more reason for him to
come back.

1661
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:23,320
So I don't know, Hopefully we'll
see him, but OK, so.

1662
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:29,920
I just, I I mean I understand
like I don't know.

1663
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:38,200
I still just it ran just brain
pisses me off and I don't know

1664
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:43,560
why and I don't have a good
reason And it's like I just it's

1665
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,160
like I want to give him the
benefit of doubt.

1666
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:52,080
I have given him the benefit of
the doubt, but it's like, I just

1667
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:58,120
think I'm, I'm just, I just, I
see his face and I just wanna, I

1668
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:03,840
just, I get, I get, I get angry,
I get angry and I don't know

1669
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,560
why.
And it's like I just, it's just

1670
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,400
something about him.
And since the first, since the

1671
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:14,000
first season, I've had had it
out for him and I just maybe I

1672
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:15,560
just need to get over it.
I don't know.

1673
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,760
It's just.
Sounds like you need some

1674
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,280
therapy, Mike.
You need anger therapy.

1675
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:24,160
Anger management therapy.
Ain't nobody getting therapy on

1676
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,680
this show.
So I'm just, I'm just following

1677
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:32,560
suit.
Well, we'll see if your opinion

1678
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:37,120
changes about him in the next
two episodes, which are the

1679
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:42,360
final two episodes for The Wheel
of Time.

1680
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,480
But for now, that's it for our
show.

1681
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:49,680
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1682
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,680
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1683
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,960
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1684
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:56,840
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1685
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,400
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1686
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,080
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1687
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:03,920
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