The Wheel of Time Season 3 Episode 7 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #366

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Anthony and Mike and we are
discussing the I guess it's the

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series penultimate episode of
The Wheel of Time.

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I was going to say season, but
anyway, this is Golden Eyes.

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That's my dog.
That's my dog.

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I didn't I I have water to
drink.

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I guess that's what we gonna
have to do 'cause you know, he's

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about to be insufferable with
that for the rest of this

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episode.
And like I said, it's just like

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the TikTok says.
Woo prepared.

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To be sick of me and I promise
you, you're going, you're going

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to be properly hydrated if
you're drinking water every

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time.
I said if every time I call

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Perry my dog because you you can
get your proper hydration going.

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I know because this episode was
largely about him.

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But according to Anthony, look,
according to Anthony, before we

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started recording, he was like,
this should be a short recording

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because only one thing happened
and it was fighting that.

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Was it?
But there's so many layers to

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despite.
That's not all that happened in

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this episode.
It's not.

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I mean, it's the main thing.
So there's layers.

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Too, we got to talk about talk
about Atlanta and the we got to

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talk about my homeboy loyal and
his sacrifice.

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We got to talk about bringing
the two Chandlers, giving us the

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justice that we've wanted since
episode, since Season 1, Episode

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2.
We got a lot to talk about.

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There was a lot of good that
happened in this episode.

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But when I say I forgot how much
this episode made me cry the

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first time I watched it, I was
watching it this afternoon.

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And when you start kind of
figuring out, because even the

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first time I watched it, I
started figuring out certain

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things were going to happen or
certain things that I thought

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were going to happen.
Like I really thought Alana was

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going to die.
And I think Anthony and I both

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said we watched it today.
We were like, she's going to

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die.
Wait, we've seen this episode.

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Why did we, I don't know the
whole goodbye between Loyale and

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Parent because even though I
didn't think Loyale was going to

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die, I thought that it was, you
know, there was enough of that

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goodbye for them to be
separated.

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Like I thought Loyal was going
to be cut off from the rest of

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them going to the way gate.
I didn't think he was going to

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have sacrifice himself.
When I realized that's what was

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going to happen, when I say I
started, you would have thought

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my child was dying or something.
I started ugly crying.

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I started shaking like the
sobbing kind of crying.

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And I was like, really, for this
character, we we got to get rid

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of him.
That's my other dog, loyal.

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Like I mean, he, he lived up to
his name.

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I mean, he didn't have to.
He could have figured be another

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way going back out and figured
him out, but he was like, no, I

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gotta make sure that none of
these mother fuckers get out.

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So he was.
I'm I'm kind of glad that the

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show has been cancelled because
this episode reminded me of why

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I just cannot stand the writers
sometimes for this show, like

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they do they do they do good in
trying to give depth to

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characters.
Like a lot of the like I said, a

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lot of the characters,
especially the villains are

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OneNote.
They just one thing, right?

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That's the thing.
They've tried to give us some

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layers to them a little bit.
But you kill Valda, who has a

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who was supposed to have a
pivotal role, and you kill

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Loyal, who also has a pivotal
role.

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Like the Loyal thing I might be
able to get over because I

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understand how difficult the
makeup was for him.

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And that's why they changed it,
you know, for this season.

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OK, but.
To be fair, we never saw the

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body.
You know what?

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And Anthony and I, I think, I
think.

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We talked about that.
Discussion that we didn't see a

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body, but this was before we
found out that they were

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cancelling.
So I don't know, I kind of feel

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like maybe some of this was
already was kind of like, OK,

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just in case they do counsel us
and if they had gotten renewed,

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maybe they will child ball is
gone.

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But I think they would have
probably maybe found a way they

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could have brought loyal back.
But I mean, it was, it was such

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a great death that I don't think
I would have wanted them to

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change that, especially the the
reaction of parent and band.

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And she had at the end when they
kind of paid him tribute.

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I was like, that was so
beautifully done.

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I wouldn't want them to like
negate that.

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But I I get what you're saying.
They thought Rand was dead.

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All the characters did.
So, you know, they paid their

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respects and all that good
stuff.

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So, you know, and I don't know
it it it bothered me.

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It still kind of does annoying
the role that the oh gear play

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in the rest of the series.
Yeah, it's it was tough.

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I mean, all of the storylines,
Wiggy Travalda are just gone up

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in smoke and I'm like, how how
are they going to get a lot of

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this stuff?
A lot of the well, pun intended,

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they.
They could have.

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Made Dane No, no.
Well, he's got going requires a

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specific type of that of of Tom
Fury that only he's capable.

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Of OK, OK.
And I don't know, I, I, I keep,

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I keep like one that hate Dame,
but I'm like, you know, he lost

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his his father got killed in
front of him.

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I can't really, like, get sick
of him because I'm sick.

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Of him I'm sick of.
Him.

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I was just like, killed my
friend.

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I'm like, Oh yes, we know.
Like God damn.

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I was mad at parent and tell him
to go kick rocks because he

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offered him the deal and he
turned it down.

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You can't come back later and be
like I want to do the deal.

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Nah dude, that's not how it
works.

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You changed your mind, but in
changing your mind, you brought

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the fucking trollix to their
door.

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Right, that should have.
Negated that deal when he came

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at the end talking about we had
a deal.

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Excuse me, You brought trollies
to my door.

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I think that I, I think I
sacrificed enough.

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I think we have sacrificed
enough.

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He should talk to.
Revenge.

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He should, he should have told
me to kick rocks because last

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thing you said was I don't.
I don't wage my man on the empty

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promise, and we know we'll come
get you if you survive the

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tropics.
They don't sound like you taking

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the deal.
Because if you take the deal,

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you would have come right on
along.

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And you can't come later and be
like, Oh yeah, after everything

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is done, I'll take the deal now.
No dude, you can't have.

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Bail and nail standing in front
of them being like Nah

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motherfucker gone you gotta get
because even.

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When they came in and parent was
asking like, so how did you guys

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get here?
Oh, we came through the mountain

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pass.
How there were child.

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It seems like we didn't count no
child.

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That should have told you,
right?

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That no, go, don't.
Think that's weird?

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Right, right like do you not see
us battle worn and weary and

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dirty?
Like we have been fighting for

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our lives?
We weren't fighting up against

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smoke.
So yeah, that that whole thing

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was just weird.
Like y'all should have known

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then, but you know what?
When when he came to parent and

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said I didn't know about fame
and parents said you should

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have, I thought back to our last
episode where Anthony was

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talking about the the children
of the light and their

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appearance and why they should
have been suspicious of Pat and

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fame and the rest of his people.
I was like, that's exactly what

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Anthony was talking about.
Cuz parents like you should

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have.
Not like you should have known

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this wasn't one of your dudes.
You shouldn't know.

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Yep, coming.
They came in, look at him with

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Dusty and stuff.
So I'm like, oh, we just, we

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just killed some problems like
motherfucker.

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But I mean, he was he, he was
clean shaven as far as that

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goes.
His appearance was OK up until

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he got all the blood on his on,
well, not even his suit.

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They literally killed other
children of the light and then

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took their clothes and and
brought I I.

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At least that's what I'm
assuming they did because

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wearing does all of a sudden
get, you know, outfits.

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That that that one shot that
they had at the last episode

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when he came.
OK, yeah, he clean shaven, but

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if you looked at all the other
dudes around him, they were not.

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And I'm not talking about two
day, three day scruff, long

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hair, long beards, raggedy
licking, mess up teeth.

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Come on, man.
They're not Children of the

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Light, and the other Children of
the Light should have been

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looking like, oh, not about
this, Mr. Morrow.

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They don't look right.
Right, right.

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Yeah, Baldas, Baldas.
That should have been like, no,

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no, I'm.
Especially Valda.

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Especially Valda.
Yeah, 'cause Balda looks like

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he, he looks like that type that
would, you know, to his nose up

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at the way some of them look
even.

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I mean, I feel like he's putting
up with Dane because of who Dane

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is, but I think he even looks at
him side eye like you're

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unkempt.
Your uniform is dirt.

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I mean, I have it in the
background when he's over there

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talking to Perrin and Perrin is
trying to form this alliance.

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His he his outfit is grey.
That's how dirty it is.

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And he's walking around with a
perpetual bottle of alcohol.

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Like who keeps filling this up
for him?

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That's what I want to know.
Who has that job?

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This is the guy that's holding
his horse in the background.

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Are you the one that's keeping
him sufficiently drunk?

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But I I feel like Valda is just
OK.

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You know what?
Your dad was the general was the

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leader.
Whatever.

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We just don't let you be.
You're, you're still in mourning

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or whatever, but.
I think, I think he outranks

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he's he's still out of regs
Walded.

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That's what Walded not really
saying anything.

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Oh, OK.
OK, as far as like torturing and

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interrogating, that's all the
specialty.

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Anything I have to die so.
OK.

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So we're going to, I don't think
we're going in any particular

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order.
We just going to go where the

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conversation takes us because I
since you mentioned that you're

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in the middle of a war with
Trollex and dark friends, you're

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helping the the two rivers
people fight.

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But you see Alana Sadai over
here on the ground dying because

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she has a spear in her chest.
And you decide, oh, none of this

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stuff is important.
I'm going to go over here and

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deal with this acid.
I that's why your ass got

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barbecued because you were
weren't minding the business

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that you should have been
minded.

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You should bend over there
fighting with your men, helping

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the people of the Two Rivers.
But instead, you see this long

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isodide by herself, with Matt's
sisters, of course, because

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they're trying to heal her,
because, you know, we saw them

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heal her in the last episode.
They have all this fighting

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going on.
She gets struck with a spear.

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They're trying to help her and
they can't.

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They they're too emotional,
They're too frazzled.

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They can't do what they need to
do.

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He comes.
On.

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With Alana.
And he's like, move out of the

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way, children.
And they turn around.

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They look at him and lay like,
oh, you, that motherfucker that

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burned our mom.
Yeah, burn this.

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And they, they burn them to a
crisp.

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And Alana is sitting there just
cracking up, laughing, just

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crack.
You know, they had to hurt

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because she has a spear going
through the middle of her body.

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But she had to laugh.
And I didn't.

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I didn't blame her.
I was like, this is what he

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deserves.
But if you had just minded your

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business and just stay focused
on the Trollix, who were the

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real threats that you would
still be alive to to be an

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asshole for another day?
Believe.

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The asshole another day.
But you know what?

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He got what he deserved.
And I'm, I'm glad it was the

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girls that gave it to him
because it feels like justice.

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It, I mean, it felt right.
Nobody else.

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Yeah.
No, I I'm glad it happened that

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way 'cause he needed to die.
But.

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He's one of the few characters
they didn't give any depth to.

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Like he was one note the whole
time.

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That's OK.
Bye Balda.

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So maybe he needed to die, Maybe
they need to get rid of them

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because they didn't really know
what to do with his character.

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Oh well, he's dead.
He would have been dead for

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another season.
But you know.

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Legos.
Legos don't need baby birds in

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hell.
Keep on keeping them sick.

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But you're right there.
I'm like, dude, all this stuff

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going on and and this.
Is what you're worried about.

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This is what you're worried
about?

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This is what you're worried
about?

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This is it it.
Reminds me of it it it actually

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goes along with his character,
you know, from the book because

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I always say how he's a blade
master.

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Well, there's some questions
around how he became a blade

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master like he.
He wasn't blade mastering that.

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Much.
Maybe there were some, I don't

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know, payments involved to
certain people, you know, maybe

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to Sam.
'Cause he wasn't fighting all

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that well in this episode.
Like he, yeah, you got to lick

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here, you got to lick there.
But there was like a particular

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scene where he's walking and it
looks like he's, I don't know,

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it looks like he's favoring one
of his arms, but he literally is

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doing this and doing this and
that's it.

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And I was like, and you're
supposed to be the blade master.

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Like if you had told me Fayel
was a blade master, I would have

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believed that.
Because when I say she was on

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something this episode, I don't
know what it was.

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She was like, I was hyped
watching her.

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I swear there was a scene where
she was stabbing someone on the

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wall.
She reached over someone come in

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the wall.
She grabbed their spear and

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stabbed the guy she was.
Fighting I'm.

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Like.
Like she was slinging and

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slicing and flipping and doing
this.

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And you know, her conversation
with parent when parent was

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like, get behind me.
She was like stop trying to

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protect.
He was like just he was like

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kill the ones.
I was like, oh, OK.

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And it's like from then on I was
looking at her.

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I was like, this little girl is
getting it because parent is way

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up here.
She about this tall, but she

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literally is getting in all the
spots that he can't get like

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he's hitting all the high notes.
She's hitting all the low notes

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every time she moved Harmony, I
was hi.

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I was sitting on my couch
bouncing up and down like yes,

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girl, yes, she was the she was
one of the best parts of this

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episode because you saw she had
skill.

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You saw she was definitely a
warrior.

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She was getting it and I was
just like, OK, I like this

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parent was get like parent.
Aaron was whooping some ass in

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this episode.
My dog, my my dog was swinging

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that axe, man.
I ain't got no more.

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Water.
I drank my water.

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Like all that, like he was this
this is this is probably my

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favorite episode, not just
because parent is like the main

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character, but to see like him
go from like killing his wife

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and mourning his wife in the
first season and not really

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getting over it until like 2
episodes ago.

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Technically.
Really.

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No last episode really.
That was the last episode, yeah,

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where he told file File what
happened.

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Like he finally got over it.
And this is like the culmination

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of all that for him.
It's like he's actually the

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leader that Tours needs that
Tours really needed and the to

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see him like take control and
let and him and file like file

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File, just letting him know,
like file is like like the

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warrior that that looks forward
to death as opposed to someone

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who's fighting not to die.
Like she's fighting for she's

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fighting for what's right and
she's like, if I die, then good.

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I died for I died for something
that was right.

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I died for something that I
believe it.

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I died for.
I died for people who would do

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the same for me.
And it's like I really like her

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character was just her and
parent were the perfect

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combination.
I mean just like them fighting

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back-to-back and all, all like
all the stuff in between.

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Like when he was ready to give
up, he's like we we lost and she

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was and she was like keep
fucking fighting.

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She was like, don't make me.
Put my foot in your ass.

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Yeah, he's like, you ain't
giving up, I ain't giving up,

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you ain't giving up.
So let's get, let's keep going.

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Right.
The the parent, the parent girl,

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like 5 or 6 inches 'cause he was
about as big as those tropics.

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I mean, you know, in the book
he's, he's supposed to be a

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physically imposing person.
That's physically.

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You felt it in this episode,
especially once he put that

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armor on when he walked to the
to the what is it they they call

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it the when he walked to the
past.

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I looked at him.
I was like OK like did the armor

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add some some girt to him
because he looked he he almost

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looked the same size as Loyale.
Yeah, yeah and about the same

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size as a trolley because he
walked between those two trolley

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so like wait a second bro, you
about the same height as those

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trolley but.
That's OK, But I was here for

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it.
I was like, OK, that means that

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he has an advantage that some of
the other people don't.

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But let me tell you, these
people in the Two Rivers, the,

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the, the women's circle, the
arches, I mean, when Maxim was

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training them, he was trying to
train them with skins.

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And that one little mouthy dude,
he was like, yeah, whatever,

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give me a Longbow and I'll
handle it.

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And Maxim is looking at them
like, whatever, Longbow.

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And when he saw them with the
longbows, he was like, OK, Two

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Rivers longbows.
Like he gained some respect for

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them because they were like,
don't give us weapons we're

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unfamiliar with now.
Give us something that we know.

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Give us something that we can
play with and and we can do some

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damage and that we're doing
some.

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Let me tell you them people of
the Two Rivers, they learned

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from that last time.
They were like, oh, OK, you

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think you're going to come in
our house and and do all this

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stuff again?
No, we're not going to have

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that.
That's that's that blood of

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Manethrin right there it is.
It runs deep.

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It is.
And you know, they were, they

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were protecting each other.
But then also I have to say

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this, I was not pleased when the
Tuathuan showed up because I was

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like, y'all are just going to be
a burden because y'all aren't

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going to fight.
Y'all just going to be extra

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people that they have to
protect.

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And I was just, I, I was not
feeling it.

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So when parent asked them to
take care of the kids, to escape

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with the kids, I was like, Oh
yeah, that's perfect.

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That's perfect for them.
But let me tell you, Aaron soon

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as he came up.
And the way he was looking, I

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was like, yeah, this boy long
for that.

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It's what through my life, the
way of the leaf.

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Fight I I really feel like if if
they had gone to another season,

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he and parent probably would
have switched because you can

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see one parent's reluctance to
fight like he's fighting because

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he knows he needs to protect the
people, especially because he

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feels like some of that trouble
is because of him, you know,

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with the white cloaks come in
and all this other stuff.

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But you can see, especially once
the Tuatha one get there, him

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and Isla start having their
conversations.

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You can see he's like, OK, if I
had my choice, this is the path

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I will follow.
But I have other people

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depending on me right now.
So I have to do this because

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he's not going to be like, OK,
you know what?

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Way of the leaf.
Yeah, I'll slap my face.

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I'm going to turn the other
chick.

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No, he can't do that.
You got all these other people

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who have given up a lot to
shelter you, to protect you.

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Now you got to fight for them.
But Aaron looked like he wanted

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to fight it every time his
grandmother spoke, especially

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after we learned that his
grandfather was killed by the

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trollies just the night before.
I was like, yeah, he ain't going

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to be part of the way of the
Leaf for too long.

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I I wouldn't say parent was
going to switch if they went

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along with the with the way his,
his character tracked in the

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book.
It, it did kind of influence his

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beliefs and but it like he
didn't fight with the axe or

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sword.
He used the hammer because kind

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of like how the I yield these
Spears instead of because it's a

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tool, it's not necessarily a
weapon, but he used it as a

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pretty vicious and foul weapon a
lot.

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So, you know, he he had always
had sort of respect for the Wave

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Leaf and in that pacifist life,
but he knew he can literally

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live that life because of his
responsibilities.

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And he spent a lot of time being
put in situations where he

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didn't want to fight.
Yeah, but he had to fight kind

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of like this so that that was a
recurring theme with his

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character.
Yeah, but.

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Because he was trying to get
away from Ryan and and he just

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kept getting pulled back because
of that to vary nature.

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He couldn't get away from it.
And even putting together, you

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know, the banner and having the
the Red Eagle of Mnethrin and

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putting an army together of two
rivers, folks, he wasn't trying

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to Tam al Thor, just kind of, I
don't want to say push them, but

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he reluctantly became a leader.
Oh, kind of like he reluctantly

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became the leader in this House
because everybody kept calling

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him Leader Lord Perrin, Lord
Goldeneyes.

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He was like, stop calling me.
I'm like dude, just let it go if

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that's what's going to get them.
If that transferred him through

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the book, that's that's that's
him the whole book.

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He's like, if I is the one,
that's like, because she comes

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from noble nobility, she kind of
helps him along with, you know,

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you may not want to be, but this
is how the people view you.

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Yeah.
And it's not.

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Yeah, but she also kind of had
like ulterior motives too,

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because she can marry anyone
unless they were noble, but

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that's neither here nor there.
So she was like, I need you to

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be a noble so I can marry.
But.

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Yeah, so see, technically they
call him Lord.

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So I mean.
Yeah.

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I mean, yeah.
Elaine.

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Elaine helps him out.
Elaine.

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Elaine helps him out.
So.

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Oh.
OK, OK.

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But I mean, it's I understand he
doesn't want it because that

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that's a lot of responsibility,
especially for someone who

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prefers to be kind of in the
background and not in the

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forefront.
Like Karen has his character

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even, I mean, especially in the
show, he's never wanted to be at

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the forefront of anything.
So for him to all of a sudden

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have all this attention on him,
I know it's uncomfortable.

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I know it's something that he
doesn't want.

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And especially with the way he
kind of takes loss into himself

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and kind of makes himself
responsible and guilty for

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certain things.
I know he didn't want to do that

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because he's like, I know some
of these people are going to

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die.
And I love that fire had to

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tell, look, if they die, that's
their choice.

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Like that's that'll be their
freedom.

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Because what is the other
alternative for them to live in

440
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fear for the rest of their
lives, for them to, you know.

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Yeah.
I.

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And and I know we didn't see
them this episode, but Matt has

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a very similar art in the same
way.

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He eventually he stumbles around
and all these mercenaries and

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and former soldiers are
following him.

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He's like, why are y'all
following me?

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He's stumbling in the battles
and winning.

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And he's like, stop following
me, leave me alone.

449
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,880
Yeah, I don't want to do this.
And he just keeps doing it more

450
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,600
and more, but he's good at it.
So just like parent and it's

451
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,920
they they have very similar arts
in the story.

452
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,080
But again.
Rand.

453
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,520
Rand needs to have armies, so
he's got these people putting

454
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,600
armies together for.
Him.

455
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,440
Whether they want to or not.
Yeah.

456
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,640
And we're not going to see it.
Shut up, shut up, shut up.

457
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,760
I love the the little light
exchange with Perrin and Matt's

458
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,000
sisters when he finally shows
them the picture and they're

459
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,920
messing with Matt.
They're like, it looks like he's

460
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,520
blowing a sheep's ladder and
they they start calling him

461
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,160
names.
I was like, OK, I love that

462
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,040
we're getting this light hearted
moment because you know, this is

463
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,800
about to be a heavy episode.
We know there's about to be a

464
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,280
battle.
We know some people are about to

465
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,000
die.
And I, I'm gonna be honest, I

466
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,200
really thought we would have
more people on our side die.

467
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,880
You know, just because I, I
think I'm one of those people.

468
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,720
I think it's really unrealistic
when you have all of these main

469
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,480
characters and there's a big
battle and no one in that main

470
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,240
group dies.
It just doesn't seem realistic

471
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,040
to me, even though.
Wheel wheels as the wheel wheel.

472
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,840
I'm not, but I'm not talking
about just this show.

473
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,800
I'm talking about any, just any
show, big battle, whatever.

474
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:06,160
But I was expecting more death,
so I was kind of like, OK, I

475
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,440
like the light hearted moments
before everything went to shit,

476
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,480
like that moment with the girls
and parents talking about Matt.

477
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,400
I love the fact that Maxim and
Alana finally reconnected in a

478
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,520
way that works for both of them
where they're they're not

479
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,840
focusing on what they lost with
Ivan, but they're like, OK, if

480
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,040
we're going to move forward, we
have to create our own path that

481
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,400
does not involve what we're used
to with him.

482
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,520
So I love seeing them reconnect
because again, it's so much

483
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,960
better when they are connected
to each other because like when

484
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,080
she got stabbed with the spirit,
he could feel it.

485
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,960
He was like, OK, so we had to do
things a little bit differently

486
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,040
now because she's down and he
would not have known that if the

487
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,240
bond had been broken.
It just it works better when

488
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,600
they're on on one accord.
So I like seeing that moment

489
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:05,040
between them, that kind of
reconnecting her irritation at

490
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,800
having to train these people.
Like the girls, all they want to

491
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,840
do is do the lightning.
And she's like, look, I'm trying

492
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,840
to teach her how to do more than
just the lightning.

493
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,880
She was, she was so annoyed.
She was like, look, she had to

494
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,720
turn around.
She was like.

495
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,240
Right.
And then when Daisy was sitting

496
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,920
there, Daisy is the new wisdom
and she was like, OK, so you can

497
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,840
channel and you've been watching
me teach them.

498
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,760
She's like, you want me to be a
part of your child army?

499
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,240
Do I have to let go of my
alcohol?

500
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,760
Alana was like, Oh my God, like
really?

501
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,280
This is what y'all give me to
work with?

502
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,560
Who?
Two children who only want to

503
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,880
learn one thing and a woman who
doesn't want to do her alcohol.

504
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,000
But I love that when they were
in the battle and they were

505
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,200
joined with Alana and they
realized how powerful they could

506
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,040
be, She looked at that bottle.
She threw that bottle to the

507
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,280
side.
She was like, OK, I don't need

508
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,520
that anymore, I want to do this
stuff.

509
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,560
And then of course we lose her 5
minutes later.

510
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,720
But she was, she was holding her
own.

511
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,960
She was holding off the Trollix.
She was holding off so.

512
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,160
Yeah, a lot of with that ice
storm, like, holy shit.

513
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,560
Like I that's the one thing I
miss about this show.

514
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,600
I love how they how they show
the isodized power like being

515
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,240
manifested, like the weeds are
just just cool as shit to look

516
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,640
at.
Yeah, and.

517
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,480
And I mean, I wonder how much
more like wish she had been able

518
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,960
to do more damage if she was at
100% strength because you could

519
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,600
tell when she was doing that.
It was taking a lot out of her

520
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,320
because she did almost just die
like the day before.

521
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,120
But I was just like, wow.
And the girls like, oh, that's

522
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,120
way cool.
It's been lightning.

523
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,800
Yes.
This is what you can learn if

524
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,200
you had been paying attention
over the last weeks.

525
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,720
OK.
They did what they were supposed

526
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,200
to do.
You know, they helped out.

527
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,040
Then they killed child Balda and
then they healed Alana.

528
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,280
So we're good with the girls
that we're we're good.

529
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,040
They're good.
I.

530
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,360
Think, I think the linking is
what took a lot out of her

531
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,600
because since they don't really
know what to do, they can't like

532
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,440
give her power.
She can't have to take it.

533
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,360
OK, pull it from them and that
requires a little bit more

534
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,040
effort.
OK, gotcha.

535
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,680
But.
OK in the weather, Weather is

536
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,400
not an easy thing to do.
Yeah, in in any magical world

537
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,440
like.
I know because every time I like

538
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,920
the couple times I've seen that
scene, I keep thinking about a

539
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,040
scene in the Belgaria, which is
by David Eddings.

540
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,720
And in there Bill Graff, the
sorcerer is telling them about

541
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,080
or and telling his daughter
about weather.

542
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,480
And it's like, do you know how
hard it is to gather up air like

543
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,520
it is?
It's not like picking up a Rock,

544
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,480
You know, it's like throwing
boulders, how much effort it

545
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,440
takes to gather up air and then
turning into moisture and then

546
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,360
turning into ice and then a
specific kind of ice in a

547
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,960
specific size that requires a
lot of effort.

548
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,760
So that would have tired her
out.

549
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,560
OK, just just for just for that
reason.

550
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,720
Right.
OK, Yeah, that does make sense

551
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,640
'cause now that you say that you
don't really think about those

552
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,520
things when at least we don't
when we're looking at them, then

553
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,640
we're just like, oh, it's magic,
they can do this, they can do

554
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,120
that, and you don't think about
the effort, physical effort that

555
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,760
it requires for them to do all
that.

556
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:45,040
So, yeah, OK, yeah, but.
See how they gather up the air

557
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,160
and the moisture and then freeze
it?

558
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,000
Yeah.
Yeah.

559
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,920
And then turn it into pointy
things and put them through

560
00:31:52,920 --> 00:32:02,320
trollops like that like that.
Yeah Speaking of trollops, so

561
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,880
I've seen this episode before.
So I knew what was going to

562
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,960
happen with like Loyale and and
him having to sacrifice himself.

563
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,880
That did not stop me from
sobbing my ass off when I

564
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,960
watched it today.
Like I'm sitting here crying

565
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:24,280
ugly cries like deep sobs like
why I've seen this before I knew

566
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,680
this was coming but it still
hurts.

567
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,720
And then just his whole
interaction this episode with

568
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,440
Bane and Chi odd, the whole game
of maidens kiss where he was

569
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,680
basically trying to say, OK,
your you know, your toe has

570
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,480
been, has been paid.
So y'all don't owe me anything.

571
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,920
And they're like, Oh no, we do
owe you something because you

572
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,960
did this.
And he was just like, because

573
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,320
really, I think what he was
trying to do, I think he knew

574
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,360
all along he was going to
sacrifice himself.

575
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,720
He was going to have to
sacrifice himself with trying to

576
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,400
cut off the weigh station so
that the other trolleys didn't

577
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,560
come through.
And I think he was trying to

578
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,240
keep Bane and Chiat from going
with him because he didn't want

579
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,720
them to potentially be in
danger.

580
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,280
But of course, this is Bane and
Chiat.

581
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,320
They thrive off potential
danger.

582
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,360
Like when they were sitting
there, like, OK, we got to get

583
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,760
them.
We got to get them away from the

584
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,560
weight gate.
And then motioned to him, like,

585
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,920
should we put our veils up?
And he was like, yeah, they were

586
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,600
like, every time they had to put
their veil up, they were

587
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,720
smiling.
I said, you know, where they are

588
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,920
relishing this?
They're like, battle, this is

589
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,000
fun.
This is play.

590
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,320
And I mean, they made short work
of the trollies and the dark

591
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:47,800
friends.
But it was so sweet because you

592
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,440
could see that I think they were
trying to figure out what he was

593
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,880
doing as well.
You know, they were like, OK, so

594
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,960
he's trying to let us off the
hook so he can go do this.

595
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,280
No, we need to find a way.
Because I think for them, they

596
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,880
were like, we're going to go
have his back, whatever it is

597
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,840
that he's going to do.
And I love that about them.

598
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,719
Like they are again, for people
who are strangers.

599
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,639
They came to the Two Rivers and
it's almost like they're part of

600
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,280
the Two Rivers.
They're like all in for those

601
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,199
people.
They're they're willing to

602
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:24,159
protect them.
They're willing to die for them.

603
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,520
They're fighting their asses off
for them because I don't know

604
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,800
how many people came to the
gate.

605
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,280
They were just sitting there
waiting like, and then they

606
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,360
waited for them to turn to them.
And they're like, yeah, it's

607
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,040
time to fight.
Put these bells back up, go kick

608
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,880
some butt.
And then what happens with

609
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,639
Loyale is happening because he
can't shattered the door, so he

610
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:52,560
realizes he's gonna have to cut
off access to the door, which

611
00:34:52,600 --> 00:35:00,800
means he has to hit the ground,
break the ground, and literally

612
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,400
cut off the door where he is
standing.

613
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:11,600
And I was just, that was really
what made me decide 'cause like

614
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,960
Anthony and I were picking up
the the shows, we were still

615
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,800
talking about the show while you
were out.

616
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,960
And I was like, with the last
episode, I said, maybe we should

617
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,560
wait for Mike to come back.
And then once I saw that Loyale

618
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,040
died and sacrificed himself, I
told Anthony, I said, no, we

619
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,880
can't record anything else Will
time until Mike is ready to come

620
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,120
back.
Because you literally had just

621
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,400
said a couple of episodes before
that how Loyale was your

622
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,240
favorite character and he was
like, I hope he doesn't die this

623
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,160
season.
I'm gonna be pissed if he dies

624
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,400
this season.
That's gonna hurt.

625
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,080
And I was just like, yeah, we
gotta have Mike's reaction on

626
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,000
this cause 'cause it just, it
wouldn't feel right to talk

627
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960
about that and you not be on the
show.

628
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,120
So are you OK, Mike?
No, I'm not OK.

629
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,040
I'm not OK.
I just like you.

630
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,000
I just like I was like I'm I was
literally just watching what

631
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,800
that scene with Loyale again,
like I'm going going through the

632
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,680
show on my phone.
I'm just like, man.

633
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,000
But it's like he deserved.
This is the noble death that he

634
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,120
deserved.
If he was gonna die, I'm glad he

635
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,440
died like this, like he died
nobly.

636
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,760
He died for A cause for a
reason.

637
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,320
He like he was trying to save.
He was trying to save people,

638
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,440
which is something that which is
I can appreciate.

639
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,360
Yeah.
Like, OK, that that, but it

640
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,240
just, I mean, him writing in the
book to them, reading the book

641
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,680
afterwards, I was just like,
wow.

642
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,240
Ugly cry, ugly cry.
But you know, I think he could

643
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:50,800
have done what he needed to do
if he had, if he had gone to the

644
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,400
standing first before they came
to the Two Rivers.

645
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,880
He wasn't at full strength.
No, I think that's one of the

646
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,120
reasons why he couldn't shatter
the door like he wanted to,

647
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,640
because if he had shattered that
door, he would have still been

648
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,040
able to go to another weigh
station, right?

649
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,200
He would have been able to go
back through the ways to another

650
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,560
door to another area.
Like he wouldn't have had to

651
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,600
die.
Well, he he would have been

652
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,840
fighting those trollies, but you
know, I think he could have

653
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,760
taken a lot of them.
I'm sure he knew that the gate

654
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,280
is extremely difficult to break.
Like they're almost impossible

655
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,760
to break in the book.
In the book he used the

656
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:41,200
venisaura leaf and kind of
locked it and marine warded it.

657
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,480
OK.
And so they couldn't come

658
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,520
through.
But there's no Marine, right?

659
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,400
Because she's all.
The way on the other side of the

660
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,280
world.
Other side of the world and I

661
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,360
said I is not you know, Alana is
not available so.

662
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,160
No, Alana just trying to stay
alive with a spear through her

663
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,880
body right now.
Alana's been through it at Faust

664
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,040
Line.
I'd never want to come back to

665
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,480
the true Rivers.
I'm like, I'll keep putting

666
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,240
pointy things in me like get
fucked away from me.

667
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,440
The interesting thing is I don't
how how would they have come

668
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,960
through.
You know what, I don't want to

669
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,840
think about it because you
either have to have a Venusaura

670
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:24,280
leaf, which they're the Trollix
have those, or you have to use

671
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,480
the one power or the true power.
So someone had to have been with

672
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,400
those Trollix who could open the
gate.

673
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,960
Maybe one of the dark friends
had that ability, but we'll

674
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,000
never.
Of course not.

675
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,600
You'll never know.
But OK.

676
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:52,440
But then again, the Forsaken
know how to use they can travel,

677
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,800
so they can actually basically
teleport the child is there if

678
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,560
they need you to.
Oh.

679
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,040
OK.
So did that.

680
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,040
I'll try not to think too hard
about these things, especially

681
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,600
the show.
So, OK, yeah, whatever.

682
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,480
Let's see what else is there in
there 'cause I mean, you were

683
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,520
right.
And it's, it's, it's really just

684
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,040
a lot of fighting.
There's some some dialogue in

685
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,200
there and there's some, like I
said, there's some moments and I

686
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,200
think we've discussed the
majority of those moments.

687
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,080
The moment is playing in the
background, the moment that

688
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,480
Aaron stabs the child look and
his grandmother sees him.

689
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:44,200
I felt like I was looking at
that vision of Rans where, yeah,

690
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,400
I was just it.
Was a good call.

691
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,520
It was a good call back.
I like that, 'cause she had the

692
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,360
same look on her face that that
that mom that mom had was the

693
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,880
same.
Her grandmother was the same

694
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,920
work.
Yeah.

695
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,720
Mom, I think.
Yeah, yeah, it was his mom in

696
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:02,880
the in the vision, but.
She was like you.

697
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:06,760
You think so?
He was just supposed to live

698
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,600
there and let him and the baby
get killed.

699
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,240
So he wanted to make a choice
and that's.

700
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,600
The whole problem.
I'm not.

701
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,680
I'm not going to be upset with
his choice.

702
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,040
Yeah.
And then, you know, then you

703
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,120
remember when Bane and she had
was like the Lost Ones.

704
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,880
But I was thinking about that
too, like, oh, if you only knew

705
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:32,440
your history like you guys used
to be to watch the one.

706
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,560
So yeah, I I was thinking about
all that.

707
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:44,360
But I mean the fighting in this
episode, the the villagers when

708
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,400
when parent finally picks up the
hammer, because he's the eye in

709
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,880
the hammer the whole episode.
And I think he was just was that

710
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,040
the same hammer that he killed
Layla with, I thought.

711
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,520
I hit him with an axe.
Axe, OK, I couldn't remember so

712
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,240
but but he's deadly with that
Hammer 'cause once.

713
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:10,120
I think that was really.
It's almost like it added a few

714
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,720
inches to him because he walked
out of that forge tall and I

715
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:21,480
mean literally knocking him.
And then here comes a little

716
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,680
acrobatic fire behind him doing
all kinds of mess.

717
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,400
I was just like, I had to rewind
a couple of times because she

718
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,080
was moving so fast that it was
like, wait, what did she just

719
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,440
do?
She was just all over the place

720
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,200
and just like, somebody's over
here fighting.

721
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,920
She's throwing swords and you
over here killing people, right?

722
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,240
He like she was doing a lot.
I like I said, I loved it.

723
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,080
I was sitting on my couch so
hyped, but I was also like, if

724
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,800
you get killed, I'm going to be
real mad, right, because I I

725
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,520
just kind of felt like something
was going to happen to her, but

726
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,120
I'm glad it didn't Maxim with
the Longbow.

727
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,440
That was funny because there was
one shot that they did of him

728
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:15,000
specifically and it was
literally like he he was giving

729
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,400
off an air like he was bored.
He picked up the he picked up

730
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,000
the Longbow, pulled it back
almost like with his two fingers

731
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,680
and just let it go and it went
into it.

732
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,040
But I was like he looks like,
oh, this is so easy.

733
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,040
Let me just but it was so much
fighting.

734
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,880
I loved it.
I did.

735
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,480
And I like seeing some little
white clothes.

736
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,920
I'm I'm sorry.
I like seeing some of them die

737
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,040
because y'all are stupid
because.

738
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,400
Y'all.
Are stupid like the.

739
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,200
Trash, yeah.
Yeah, no.

740
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,320
And is that I just saw that
moment you were talking about

741
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,040
fail like on on the back of the
troll look like stabbing.

742
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,880
I was like she was just like
Drax.

743
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,480
She was.
Yes, she was.

744
00:42:54,400 --> 00:43:01,760
She was getting it.
But yeah, the I I don't know

745
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,960
what to say about the white
clothes.

746
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,760
The only thing I can say is they
should have had better leaders.

747
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:13,040
And maybe if Dan's father wasn't
dead, things might have gone off

748
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,440
a little bit better 'cause I
think he would have been able to

749
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,720
look at them and be like, OK,
something right about y'all,

750
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,880
about these reinforcements.
I think he would have been able

751
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,960
to look at it.
I think child Balda, yes, he was

752
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,800
kind of put off by their
appearance, but I don't think he

753
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,200
cared.
I think he was more so just

754
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,200
like, OK, we're gonna go do,
we're gonna go do our.

755
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,880
As long as y'all bring me
somebody to torture, I'm good.

756
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,360
I don't think he really cared.
No, he.

757
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,920
Didn't Dan is the only one who
was there with a particular

758
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,240
purpose and that was to bring
parents to justice and.

759
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:51,480
He was blinded.
He was blinded by vengeance.

760
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,440
Yeah, but I mean, a parent told
him, he said, you know, when he

761
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,640
was sitting there negotiating
with him and he was talking

762
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,240
about how, you know, you, you
killed my father, he said.

763
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:05,720
So does that excuse you killing
Natty?

764
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,560
He said she died because of your
grief, just like your father

765
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,520
died because of mine.
Like, where does this end?

766
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,640
And even when at the end, when
they arrested him and Via was

767
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,240
ready to fight, she was like,
oh, you think you like we just

768
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:21,880
got together.
You think you about to take my

769
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,920
man?
Absolutely not.

770
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,640
And he had to tell them no.
He was like, violence only stops

771
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,400
when one person says enough.
And if they kill me, then that's

772
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,080
what they do.
But this has got to stop.

773
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,760
We got to stop fighting each
other.

774
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,280
We got to stop you know all of
this violence.

775
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,040
Now I will say this and I know
y'all knew I was going to say

776
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,880
this.
He should have killed Pat and

777
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,600
Fain.
There is no way he should have

778
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,200
let Pat and Fain go.
Yep, he should.

779
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,160
But I mean, and I understand
he's an honorable man.

780
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,440
So once I tell you if you call
off your trollock army, you can

781
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,280
go.
That would have been fine.

782
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:05,080
But the moment, had it been me?
I'm just saying, had it been me?

783
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,680
After all the shit you've done
over the last couple of years

784
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,240
and the fact that you literally
just sat here and told me, I

785
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,080
don't care about you.
I don't care about your people.

786
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,560
I don't care about this place.
I, I'm, I'm just here for the

787
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,240
chaos.
I'm here for the like.

788
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,280
He really had no motivation for
doing what he was doing.

789
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,520
The minute he called that
Charlock army off and they

790
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,720
started retreating, he would
have had an axe to the neck.

791
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,480
I'm so sorry.
I will.

792
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,160
I will deal with, you know, I
will deal with my loss of honor

793
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,560
later as long as this mother
fucking dead.

794
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,360
My guy is the great escape
artist.

795
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,560
Is like you like he can't die.
It's like every time you think

796
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,080
you think he's gonna die, he
like, finds a way to worm his

797
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,480
way out of it and escape, right?
Come back, but come back again

798
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,480
to bother you.
This is like he's like a gnat.

799
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,320
It's like you swinging at it,
swinging at it and mother

800
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,760
fucking.
You just can't catch that bitch.

801
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,080
Loyale is about to die in the
background.

802
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:04,480
I can't watch, that's why I'm
covering my face.

803
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,640
He's.
My dog, yeah, I just can't wear.

804
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,640
But yeah, Pat and Fain, well, of
course now we're not going to

805
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,160
know.
But I was like, if he comes back

806
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,480
next season and he's still doing
this stuff, I want somebody to

807
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,800
throw a knife through him.
Maybe Matt, cause Matt would

808
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,880
have no qualms about Oh, I know
I said I was going to be

809
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,560
honorable.
No, Matt would have been like,

810
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,120
oh, you're the reason all this.
No, let me, let me go ahead and

811
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,440
kill you.
Where's, where's the dagger,

812
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,640
Matt?
Matt had it last.

813
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Yeah, and he, he tied, he tied
it onto a Pike and killed 'cause

814
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,920
he.
Was fighting, yeah.

815
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,640
I think he dissolved when?
Oh no, wait, wait.

816
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:53,320
They used he used it to open the
case to have a horn in it.

817
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,840
Yeah.
And that was last time we saw

818
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,640
it.
No.

819
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,120
Had it.
He had it when he was fighting.

820
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,760
He's he, he stabbed, Ran with
it, remember?

821
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:05,800
Yeah, that was the last time we
saw.

822
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,960
It, So it's probably they
probably left it on the well, I

823
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,280
don't know.
I don't think they would have

824
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,000
left it on the tower because
that would be dangerous, but

825
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,120
they probably got rid of it.
I don't know, gets lost in the

826
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:22,440
show.
Well, the, the context is it's,

827
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,080
it's important to the story with
Pat and Fane.

828
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,960
So we'll see.
I, I don't know, maybe they'll

829
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:31,280
show up.
No.

830
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,160
We.
Won't see.

831
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,160
We won't see.
We won't see.

832
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:38,600
Wait.
Pat Pat and fame makes it to the

833
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,680
last battle.
So.

834
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,200
OK.
Yeah, no.

835
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,720
Of course he does.
Parents should have just killed

836
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,760
him.
Parents should have.

837
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,200
Just no.
He's important.

838
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,360
He's important.
So was child bother according to

839
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,360
you?
No, he's important in in.

840
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,800
He's important to Rand.
Child bother is not important to

841
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:03,480
Rand.
OK, OK, But I, I don't know the

842
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,360
parent effect, like on the
background right now, Pat, he

843
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,200
just has one of those faces you
just want to punch.

844
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:15,440
Just like, oh, so much of this
is because of you.

845
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,200
And you don't even have a good
reason for doing this.

846
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:25,400
You're just doing it like
parents should have killed him

847
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:31,960
anyway.
So lots of fighting in this one,

848
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,400
all in the two rivers.
So we don't know what's going.

849
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,800
I'm I'm going to assume the next
episode deals with the other

850
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,720
side of the world because now
the trollops have left the two

851
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:46,720
rivers is kind of sorted in
peace, except for the fact that

852
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:49,440
parents just got arrested.
But you know, I don't think

853
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,480
they'll be bothered by the
trollops.

854
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,880
And now still.
Know Tam, Al, Thor and Matt's

855
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,640
father.
Just.

856
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,640
They just.
Yeah, whatever.

857
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,560
They're just in the wind because
Amazon decided to cancel a

858
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,800
fucking show.
But.

859
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,480
You spent $50 million on a damn
wedding, but you can't spend

860
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,720
like 8 or 9 to finish this shit
out.

861
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,400
Like motherfucker, the hell you
just all you gonna do, all you

862
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,440
gonna do is cheat on her again.
Like they they.

863
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,800
Just going to take that money
from the show and move it over

864
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,760
to ring power.
That's all they.

865
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,440
Do pull that shit back and pull
that shit back and give me, give

866
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,480
me 7 episodes of this.
We can close it out.

867
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,640
What they should do is move some
of these writers ring power to

868
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,800
help them out 'cause they need
some help up there.

869
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,160
But you said you didn't like
what the writers were doing over

870
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,960
here, so why would?
I say I like some of the stuff

871
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,040
they're doing.
Yeah.

872
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,520
And say I liked all of it.
They can help with some of that

873
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,440
characterizing 'cause that,
that, that part they got, Yeah.

874
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,200
And they're not trying to follow
something that's already been

875
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,720
done, so.
Yeah.

876
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:02,040
You know that.
This show is cancelled but hmm.

877
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,280
That man they kill, Yeah.
And now we'll never know if he

878
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,920
actually survived it or not.
I, I and I know that their

879
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,840
efforts being made to save the
show, like the, the fan base is

880
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,200
really rallying.
They've got a petition going on.

881
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,200
They've paid for billboards all
over the place.

882
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,240
I think I've seen even some
international billboards, you

883
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:31,680
know, trying to save the show.
So I don't know, maybe somebody

884
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,400
else will pick it up and and
save it.

885
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,160
I don't know.
This is one of those shows this,

886
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,680
you know, even with some of the
things that we complained about,

887
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:45,520
I don't think it was enough
complaining for us to be like,

888
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,920
OK, yeah.
That the show was worth deserved

889
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,640
to be cancelled.
No, especially this season.

890
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,200
This season was probably the
best out of all three seasons.

891
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,400
It was I.
Anyway it?

892
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,680
Was.
You guys have anything final to

893
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,640
say about this episode 'cause I
I did.

894
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,960
The the well, I guess I reserved
my comments about the series

895
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,000
being cancelled until after I
last episode.

896
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:21,040
This was not one of my favorite
episodes, OK, simply because I I

897
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,480
didn't like the direction they
took with some of the

898
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,640
characters.
It did have some good moments,

899
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,440
but it was definitely not it
wasn't a top episode for me.

900
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,640
OK.
And that's understandable,

901
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,360
especially, you know, if if
characters are different from

902
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,840
where you thought the story was
going.

903
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,760
But.
Yeah, and I know what I had

904
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,280
said, but I was trying.
I had separated myself from what

905
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,760
they're supposed to be in the
book to what they're doing in

906
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,400
the show.
It's just that even as the show

907
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,960
is going, I still don't like
what they did with some of the

908
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,360
characters.
Like, I still don't like that

909
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,080
they kill Royale.
I don't really care for Parent

910
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,720
turning himself over, which
still, I don't understand.

911
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:08,480
Dude did not take the deal so
why are you going with it now?

912
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,440
Like Parent that would have
been.

913
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,040
Because he showed up and and
parent is a dude of honor.

914
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,680
He showed.
I know, I know, I agree.

915
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,280
With you last thing you said to
him because he had no

916
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,520
expectation of you coming that
mean the deal was off because

917
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,120
last thing you told him was I
will not sacrifice my men for an

918
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,280
empty promise.
So you didn't even please?

919
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,120
Parent.
No, the last thing he actually

920
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,040
said was if the Trollix don't,
we will.

921
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,520
OK, we will.
Exactly.

922
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,840
So how am I supposed to think
that we have a deal when you

923
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,680
basically just told me you
couldn't come clean up after the

924
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,960
Trollix wiped this out?
So yeah, no.

925
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,760
But I guess in parents mind
y'all showed up so that means

926
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,680
that you know y'all fulfill your
end of the deal.

927
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,240
So I'm a fulfill.
But like I said.

928
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,880
If Matt would have told him,
Matt would have told him.

929
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,200
That's not how deals work,
buddy.

930
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,600
Right.
And also, like I said, you

931
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:13,280
brought the Trollix, so
technically speaking you brought

932
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,360
the enemy.
You ate it in the bed of the

933
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,760
enemy.
So I shouldn't have to fulfill

934
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,120
anything.
But I think too, if he would

935
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,040
have refused to go, then the
white clothes would have

936
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,640
attacked and then it would have
been just a whole nother bloody

937
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,720
battle and that would have been
more people dying and then

938
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:35,000
Parent would have felt guilty
and parent is done with all of

939
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,080
that so.
You, you know how I would have

940
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,120
written that?
I would have turned basically

941
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:47,040
turn Fayil into, into Matt Smith
from the House of the Dragon.

942
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,720
And while Dean is talking, she
just walks by, slits his throat.

943
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,440
We're done.
That's how I would have ripped

944
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,880
it.
And I would have been upset.

945
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,240
He could have been mad, but
what?

946
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:01,600
What was he going through at
that point?

947
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,800
Yeah, 'cause you don't have a
lot of white.

948
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,960
I'm looking in the background.
You don't have a lot of white

949
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,360
folks with you right now.
You got a whole village that's

950
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,920
willing.
Like Fayel said.

951
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,320
Apparently you can't do math
because there's more of us than

952
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,360
there are of you.
And they just be down to they

953
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,400
just be down to Charlie Army,
so.

954
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,480
So I think they could have taken
them, but.

955
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,880
They would have taken them.
I just Fayel was just taking

956
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,840
them by himself.
And not not not by herself

957
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,880
because band that she had as
soon as he was like oh y'all

958
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,600
can't count.
They were like oh we finna fight

959
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,440
again.
Yeah, the three of them, they

960
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,400
would have been there.
They would have been there, but

961
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,840
that would have been that would
have been without red thing

962
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,320
we've been, excuse me, poking on
his own blood.

963
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,560
He would have been there.
I mean, I don't.

964
00:54:53,080 --> 00:55:01,040
I don't really dislike Dane.
I don't, but if I have to choose

965
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:08,040
between him and his grief and
parent, I'm going for parent

966
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:13,280
every single time.
So Dane just needs to, I don't

967
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,000
know, he needs to get over and
figure it out.

968
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,640
But I guess it doesn't matter
now because the fucking show got

969
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,800
cancelled.
But yeah, I just, I, I don't

970
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,280
think he should have turned
himself in.

971
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,720
He definitely shouldn't have,
but you know, I mean, he has his

972
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:33,840
newfound role as the Lord of the
Two Rivers, so he has to uphold

973
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,040
his lordship that I don't buy
that shit.

974
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,360
His Honor, Lord Aaron.
Golden eyes.

975
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,960
Yeah, fuck about that.
I was almost expecting him to

976
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,160
keep saying don't call me that
as they were as they were

977
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,560
walking him away.
It's not my day.

978
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,480
But it's OK.
Should have had that.

979
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,160
Should have had that IO split
all day bro do.

980
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,840
You have any insight outs, Mike?
Shout to me, me not saying that

981
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:04,560
Pat Fain and involved the look
look alike now 'cause I'm not I

982
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,160
don't have to see them in the
same in the same episode again.

983
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:18,000
I I really see, I'm like, I'm
like Hanukkah with comic books,

984
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,720
like me with books now it's like
I'm, I'm trying like I'm edging

985
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:24,760
out time to read Children of
Blood and Bone just so I could

986
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,240
see it before the movie gets
out.

987
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,960
But I'm like, I want to read
this whole series, but I'm like,

988
00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:31,880
I don't have time.
Like everything, there's so much

989
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,480
shit going on.
It's like I don't have time to

990
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,600
do shit.
It's actually not, not between

991
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:42,040
now and and September because we
got Dragon Con and to prepare

992
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,960
for so.
Exactly.

993
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:49,160
Yeah, so much shit.
But yeah, I mean, you don't have

994
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,840
any more anymore other than
other than to my dog who clear

995
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,600
who, who really showed out in
this episode.

996
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,840
Only the only thing that could
have made it better is if 'cause

997
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,520
they kept dropping, dropping
that.

998
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,000
Trolls don't like wolves.
Trolls don't like wolves.

999
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,960
Only thing that was that was
missing was him.

1000
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,200
Him.
Try him summoning a pack of

1001
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,080
wolves.
Yeah, to come in like I was, I

1002
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,800
was expecting that through the
whole episode.

1003
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,360
I was like, OK.
Me too, me too.

1004
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,080
Because they kept dropping that.
They're like, yes, you're you're

1005
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,160
the wolf.
You're the wolf.

1006
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,160
Because they don't like wolves
and wolves and wolves.

1007
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,480
And I'm like, OK, where the fuck
are the wolves?

1008
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,960
She can dig.
I'm gonna be honest, even though

1009
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,280
I know Anthony says he's not a
werewolf or a shapeshifter, I

1010
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,960
was almost half expecting him to
turn into.

1011
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,400
One exactly turn have my have my
dog turned to a werewolf.

1012
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,160
I need my dog, need my.
Dog in the house I was almost

1013
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,680
half.
Expecting it to happen,

1014
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,880
especially once they put the
banners up, I was like, yeah,

1015
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,200
parent is parent is being the
reluctant leader, but he's going

1016
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,760
to turn into a wolf and he's
going to scare the Trollix off

1017
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,720
and he's, his wolves are going
to come behind him, rally behind

1018
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,800
him and they're going to.
So I there was a small, I will

1019
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,640
admit there was a small part of
me that was expecting that.

1020
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,720
So I'm kind of glad that didn't
happen though, because I think

1021
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,080
that would have been a little
corny.

1022
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,640
No, they they needed the help.
I have expected, expected to see

1023
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,200
what's his name?
The other other wolf dude, that

1024
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,440
look, that look.
Like.

1025
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,160
Yeah, I have expected to see
Elias just show up out of

1026
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,760
nowhere and start slap.
Just just just move through the

1027
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:24,920
crowd.
Start slicing people.

1028
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,960
And I say they ain't got, they
ain't got.

1029
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,680
Shit, I know, I know.
I'm glad to have us been like

1030
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,200
like just like splicing people's
slicing throats and looking at

1031
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,640
looking at parents and don't
expect this treatment often and

1032
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,960
just keep going through like
right, just like randomly

1033
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,240
killing people.
Then next thing, then it's like

1034
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,160
the next morning.
He's like he, he's like, oh, you

1035
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,000
sure you don't want to stay?
Just like, what the fuck did I

1036
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,760
say?
Motherfucker?

1037
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,040
Don't expect this kind of
treatment there.

1038
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,760
Learn how to control your
wolves.

1039
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,000
You can't believe, can't
believe.

1040
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,400
You let Hoppy die and I'll just
slice your throat.

1041
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:06,320
Well, I think it's so wrong it.
Wasn't his fault he told Hopper

1042
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,440
to stay behind.
He did, and Hopper did listen.

1043
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,240
So you know.
Loyal.

1044
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,800
And and he.
Did save parents lives so.

1045
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,760
He did.
He did save parents lives.

1046
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,160
Just for parents to now be
arrested for murdering the

1047
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:29,200
person that killed him, but OK.
Whatever, I used to just kebab

1048
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,040
to all the mother fuckers and
been like yeah now what?

1049
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:39,640
And now?
OK, so we have one episode

1050
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:46,440
remaining of the Wheel of Time
series and then that's it.

1051
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,880
And I'm still so sad.
But yeah, 'cause I mean,

1052
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,000
especially after, like, I went
to Jordan Con for the first time

1053
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,840
this year and that was a lot of
fun.

1054
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,040
So I was expecting, you know, I
was like, OK, go back next year,

1055
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,240
talk about the show some more,
have fun.

1056
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:09,240
And yeah, so like I said,
hopefully they can save the

1057
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,880
show.
Somebody else will pick it up

1058
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,560
and decide to do something with
it.

1059
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:18,720
But I guess.
I guess we shouldn't hold our

1060
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,080
breath.
Yeah, we can get my hook set.

1061
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,400
OK.
Yeah, that's the same thing we

1062
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,560
were holding for Shadow and
Bone.

1063
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,480
You see where that got us, So.
No.

1064
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:35,560
And the and, and that, that they
got creative with trying to get

1065
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,640
Netflix to renew that one.
Because I think, I think one of

1066
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,600
the things that they did was
they had they sent boxes and

1067
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:48,040
boxes and boxes of fake crows to
the Netflix office.

1068
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,480
I think that was one of the
things they did, but OK.

1069
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:03,200
The only company that could do
it is HBO, and they got, they

1070
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,520
got their own shows.
They're trying.

1071
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,840
To they still got too much.
They were they, yeah, they were

1072
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,400
trying, they trying to cut
budgets.

1073
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,600
They're not trying to pick up
more shit.

1074
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:16,560
Yeah, OK.
And Netflix is not going to do

1075
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:21,240
it because they like.
Netflix does that and doesn't

1076
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,680
bring back shower and bone.
I'm gonna I'm canceling my

1077
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,680
prescription.
Yeah, well, yeah.

1078
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,160
Well, they're more into doing
their original stuff, so they

1079
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,800
don't.
I don't really care picking up

1080
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,800
other people's.
Stuff and they renewed FUBAR.

1081
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,520
I'm like, really, out of all
things, you gonna renew that

1082
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,200
Arnold Schwarzenegger shit,
which I'm still watching because

1083
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,280
the shit's funny as.
Fuck then they and then they

1084
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:46,960
renew Velma too for a second
season.

1085
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,280
I think, I think Max gave Max
gave him another season.

1086
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,840
OK, you.
Know that I could.

1087
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:51,720
I could.
I couldn't even.

1088
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,680
I couldn't even get 15 minutes
through that shit.

1089
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:58,600
It was terrible.
Hopefully nobody brings back

1090
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,960
good times, but that's even
here.

1091
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,120
Another.
Some things need to be left.

1092
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,560
Those sleeping dogs lie.
Yep, and on that note, that is

1093
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,760
it for our show.
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1094
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,880
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1095
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,400
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1096
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,680
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1097
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,920
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1098
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,480
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1099
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,080
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1100
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