Moon Knight E5 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #167

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of The Phantom hybrid podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Anthony Lori and Mike and
we are discussing the fifth

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episode of moon night.
So Mike, I'm gonna go ahead and

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let you say it in motion though.
Damage bra.

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This is the, this was the over a
mess with my head.

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So bad, like a blast, most of
the episode with my As over my

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heart like this.
Like, like can it get any worse?

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Oh, yes, it can get worse.
Like, oh God.

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I mean, the whole thing with his
mom was just, it was

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heartbreaking.
Like, holy shit.

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Like she would, I mean, in this,
like you kind of want to be

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like, how can't believe she did
that shit?

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But then you're like, okay, I
can understand.

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But it's like still, he was like
school.

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He's a child.
Like if she was just like in, oh

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my God.
And then, it's like him standing

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outside and his father, tried to
get him to come into the

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funeral.
Like, I was like, I was, I was

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literally while I was watching
it at work again and started

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crying.
I'm like, I'm going to start

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watching shit.
I don't even try to watch it at

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work.
What is wrong with you?

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Because I had to see it because
it was because it was Wednesday

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and my lunch break and I was
like, fuck.

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I'm watching it because I wanted
to watch it.

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I was like, rude bullshit, but
it was a great So this just like

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those scenes got me, man.
Holy shit.

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I'm just gonna say I watched it.
I gave you guys my opinion,

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off-screen.
I watched it again.

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I revise my opinion, because I
think that there's a lot more

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going on that I didn't get the
first time, but yeah, it was

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emotional damage and that mom
needs to be like

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institutionalized or something,
because that wasn't right.

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Well, she's dead.
Now so it doesn't really matter.

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But you know what?
What I was I when I was looking

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at it and I thought about the
when he was standing outside

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like he couldn't convince
himself to go in.

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I was like oh that's when you
know in the last episode Mark

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told Layla he said you know I
had a I had control of it until

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recently I think that's when it
that's when it broke.

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That's when he lost almost
almost certainly almost

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certainly don't make it takes a
traumatic event cause the walls

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to start to crumble, right?
You know, where other ones who

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say this real quick before we
get started, is the amount of

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effort and detail.
They took into dealing with his

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mental health and showing like
the progression of how these

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things occur and and expressing
it in this way.

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In this environment, I don't
know who they have on their

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writing staff, that does all
their research.

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But we see Esau and Falcon when
a soldier we saw it in one

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division.
They are completely even though

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Hawkeye via completely nailing,
all of these mental health

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issues, like almost just, they
almost like clinical studies.

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Yeah.
And I was looking for my I was,

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we were looking for our DSM.
My wife has, she has more

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recently than I do.
I couldn't find it, but I have

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it for the next time where we
can actually go through.

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Some of these these things that
he's dealing with, that'll be

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interesting.
Yeah, I'm actually should have

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point where I would love to
actually, you know, hear about

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that because this, yeah, This
episode is Heart breaking.

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But like almost from start to
finish this, like, oh my God,

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like I was just, I mean, and the
way and again, I'm going to say

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it again and I'm gonna say it.
Every time I'm saying, the next

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episode we do on this show, to,
if Oscar, Isaac does not win a

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fucking a ward for this
portrayal, for everything that

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he's put into this fucking roll,
then something's fucking wrong.

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Like isn't I keep I mean, He is
like the literally breaking

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himself into three different
characters.

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I mean I'm actually starting to
wonder if he does have the idid

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like because he is I mean, he's
doing he's doing he's doing a

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yeoman's job of actually
studying and it would doing the

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accents where he literally is
and his body language his by

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mostly his body language, like
when he changes from Mark to

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Stephen, you can see How he
walks how he holds himself is

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entirely different.
It's not just him.

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Doing a voice in Walking, the
same, he's doing a voice and

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shuffling and looking confused
and bewildered.

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And it's like he's at, he's
actually turns into Steven.

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It's incredible and I'm like, he
needs to pee these accolades

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immediately and they need to go
ahead and announce that they're

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doing the second season.
Yes, this they will because at

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this point, we're recording now
does.

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Oh, has been off for two weeks
now.

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We got the season finale or
series finale, whatever.

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We got a finale two weeks ago
and they still haven't said

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anything.
I need a second season or y'all

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need to tell me Moonlight will
return in whatever.

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I mean there was there was
something that they posted where

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it said there was something
online that said series finale

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and then they said they changed
it to season finale.

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Yeah.
Which I mentioned in last

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episode.
Yep.

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So hopefully that means that we
get another season of it.

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We need it.
Yeah.

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And hopefully hopefully that
means they'll bring a bring some

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other sort of know the
characters that it and I'm kind

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of mad that they're not.
I mean, this is like almost the

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perfect place to bring it.
The do he has other problems

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right now to bring in kit
harington's character from

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eternals, it just have them like
walking around in the

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background.
It's like there was there was I

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actually saw an article earlier
today that said that there was

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an idea that they were going to
bring them with me in because of

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the fact that he, you know, has
a job in a museum.

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But they didn't want to bring
him into another show or movie

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and not have him donned the suit
and I don't think it will make

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sense at this point.
So I don't think they, I think

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that's the reason why they
didn't put it in.

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So I just want to see him in the
background just walking around.

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Like, like like sadly, like the
Leonardo DiCaprio Caprio, give

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me like, Right, like you, there
he is but I don't even know

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where I want to start.
Like I don't know, you know,

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that's the started, the
beginning them talking to

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what's-her-name power it.
Yes, no, no, let's not start,

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that wasn't even that.
What?

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Okay, so let's start at the
beginning.

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Beginning anybody else realize
that this was the first time

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that the access Marvel Avengers
theme played at the opening

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credits.
Whoa, I didn't actually I didn't

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hear anything.
Yeah, because that was the first

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I noticed when I started
watching it, I was like wait,

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why are they playing The
Avengers thing?

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All right huh it just it was so
out of out of the blue because

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every other episode that we've
had this season, there's been,

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you know, either original music
or you know, some some type of

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track.
But they've never played The

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Avengers theme for this show yet
because the whole time oh wait,

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what is this about?
Because it had that that Middle

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Eastern theme that It was last
week which I thought was cool

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and then it disappeared.
I was like, well I actually like

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that.
Hmm, yeah.

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But no, they they changed the
opening theme every episode.

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I think mostly I didn't ya
attention every episode because

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that's one of the things that I
did notice about this show, the

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music isn't World.
Anyway, most most of their

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shows.
The music is incredible.

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Yeah, it is.
And so listening to the Middle

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Eastern music or listening to
the Egyptian music and it's In

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like for me it's been soothing
because that music is just so

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it's so beautiful to listen to.
And then for it to come in and

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it's the Avengers theme, I was
like, wait, what?

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What are what are?
What are we doing it?

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Just it through me.
I still don't know why they made

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that different.
I'm sure it probably means

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something.
I don't know because that's the

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way they tend to do.
But yeah, I just thought that

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was different like right off the
bat.

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Did anyone notice?
This when he was talking to

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Harold, it's at the very very
beginning like and he was like

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looking around he had a broken
nose and he actually changed his

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exit changed like right before,
right?

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When he was trying to get up and
go, but the theory is just like,

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right?
Normally see I'm thinking that

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that might have been Jake kind
of creeping in there because

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it's like because because it's
like is it was just like the

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subtle change like he was, he
had marks exit one point and

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then Change to like a Boston
accent, like a really Gruff

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Boston accent.
Then he grabbed the little glass

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pyramid and tried to take his
own eye out.

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Oh yeah.
You know what I did was in

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Chicago accent?
Chicago accent Chicago, it was

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Chicago yet.
Well, can I do bastard?

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Had a potato chowder, chowder.
Yeah but yeah, I think I think

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that that Jake that that was
that was actually Jake like,

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sitting there because it just,
it just kind of struck me as odd

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that he's voice changed.
Like just that imperceptibly.

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And he was, he was acting again
kind of belligerent but he but

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he didn't but he didn't kill
anybody.

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No, he didn't.
And that that's the thing.

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Like like I said, I do remember
hearing that accent but I wasn't

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sure if that's exactly what I
was hearing.

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I just thought it was because,
you know, you have them you have

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Mark talking to dr.
Harrell at the beginning and I

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think this is like right after
they met Tigerettes and I think

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what we see in this episode we
see them going back and forth

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between I feel like like one
Consciousness and another, I

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don't know if that's correct or
if it's like Well, the episode

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starts out, we get to see some
of marks memories.

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Like, we see this running water,
we hear a boy calling help and

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then we see a woman saying this
is all your fault and then all

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of a sudden we're right back in
the hallway with them screaming

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at Tower Records.
And then all of a sudden, we're

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back in the psych room with
Mark, and I was just like, wait,

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what, what is going on?
There's like week.

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So we've had three different
changes at that point and I was

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like, oh, This is going to be
one of those episodes where you

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really have to pay attention.
And let me just say, herro in

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this episode frustrated me.
Just because it was like, and I

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know that's probably that
probably isn't Harold.

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I know that that's a figment of
marks imagination because right

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now we're in his mind and also
he's kind of sort of dying at

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this point.
So It's kind of hard to tell

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what's in his mind and and the
reality or what, you know what

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might have actually been going
on or what it was?

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Just well, it was confusing, it
was off-putting but I think one

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thing that needs to be said, is
we learn later?

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He's actually dead.
He's not dying.

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He's dead.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
So is that?

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Yeah.
And I think it was also kind of

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it was off-putting in that way.
Because I feel like we're

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supposed to experience with
Marcus going through like right

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now his mind is jumping.
And he's trying to figure out

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what's going on.
Harro is trying to tell him that

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you know this is all in your
mind.

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These are things that you are
using to kind of deflect was

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really going on.
No, I did not shoot you and all

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this other stuff and Mark is
just sitting there like, I don't

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know and then it gets to a point
where Harold wants to talk to

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Steven, and then they start
going back and forth.

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And I'm just sitting there
watching the TV screen like, oh,

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I might have to watch episode
like two more times because

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there's so much going on and I'm
trying to keep up it was Oh, it

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was, it was a mentally
exhausting episode to watch.

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So I can't even imagine what it
was like to play this.

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One person being these these
couple of characters, you know?

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Yeah, I'm telling you watching
Mark having having to go through

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this emotional roller coaster,
you know, basically trying to

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figure out So Tower, it is there
and she's basically there to

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guide them because he got shot.
He's dead.

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Like you said Anthony.
And I'm about to, okay, I'ma put

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like this, I'ma let one of y'all
take over because I don't want

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to screw anything up.
I've only watched this episode

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once, but She's trying to get
them to the field of reeds.

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Right.
Right, right.

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Let's see.
She goes through her her

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introduction because she's like,
oh my god.

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I've never haven't had chance to
test the practice this.

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Yes.
Or a few cards out and she goes

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through everything and talks
about the different planes of

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afterlife.
Existence.

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Like she actually mentioned the
afterlife plane best for black

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panther like have it like kind
of offhandedly.

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So and then the quit ancestral
playing.

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Yes it says something yes image
CSS for playing kind of

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offhandedly and she's cells that
they're going to be judged and

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She's saying first that the
psych ward, the place that he

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created is his mind trying to
order things in preparation for

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his journey into right.
Do I yeah.

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Yeah.
He's like, he's like why don't

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you pick a psych ward at Mark
says because they're crazy.

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I think it's funny that she
thinks that they're twins at

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first, but she's like, are you
guys Twins and they're like yes,

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no, kinda sorta.
And it's like they don't even

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know what to consider themselves
because again, right there.

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They're able to interact with
each other as individuals in

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this in this mind space.
And it's weird for them because

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they're like, okay.
So like are we Twins or are we

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like what?
Okay.

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Yeah, so so yeah, we think so
but not quite and she's like,

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oh, that really cleared it up.
But I do also like that.

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She says, what was the worst use
intersectional?

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She was saying that different.
Yeah, different out.

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The afterlife is based on like
what your culture is, and she

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said you'd be surprised at how
many intersectional planes there

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are.
And that's when she mentions The

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ancestral playing for black
panther, which I think the Mark

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I think, is lovely.
Because that kind of confirms

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that, okay.
Yeah, it's not just one,

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afterlife, is not just one
heaven, like, it depends on your

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culture and who Large and where
you from as far as what happens

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to you after you die. - it's
interesting because we saw that

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in, in some unaired podcast, we
talked about American Gods,

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like, it depends on who you
worship.

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Like, where that power goes and
those guys claim you because

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you're the one that worship, you
know, that you you as a god of

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the person that was being
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This there is very kind of cool.
Very did that, right?

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But anyway so you see marks like
yeah I don't believe any of this

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like the he tries to go you
tries to leave and next thing

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you know he's on the ship which
they kind of hinted at in the

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last episode when he was running
away from the guards and you see

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the you saw the lights kind of
going back and forth and you

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heard the creaking of like the
full board since stuff.

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But shout out to the visual
effects guys on that like that

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looked gorgeous, like the ship
sailing on the same.

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A and like man that they did
they did work on that.

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That's some good CGI.
Yeah that's an if it's welcome

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want to see I think he also if
you remember when he got fired

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from the museum I think the
suggestion was planted in him

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about going to a psychiatric
hospital by the got it fired him

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because when he showed him the
pamphlet and told him, a be

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honest with you, through get
some help.

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Yeah.
Was that guy also, one of the

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patients in the hospital.
It could have been, I wasn't, I

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didn't save it.
I didn't do any Freeze Frame, so

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I don't know.
But I do guys office looks like

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the same room where he first
found his Jackal with with

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what's-her-name before he got
thrown out of the window.

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Oh, okay, Layla.
Yeah, yeah.

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That.
That's the same room.

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I didn't notice that.
So yeah, so they're on a boat.

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Ruin the bow.
And, you know, Steven is, of

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course, kind of schooling.
Mark on what's going on.

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As far as, you know, them going
to the field of reeds and Tower.

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It is like, well, you know, if
your hearts balancing life and

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you'll spend eternity in
Paradise, but if it's not, yeah,

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you're gonna, you're gonna go
into the Sands and that's it.

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But when she, when she reached
into their chest and pulled out

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those little stone hearts, I was
like, what the hell's he doing?

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How's that?
Oh, Okay, they're still alive.

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Now kids that kind of she's like
oh good you guys didn't explode

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this time.
I was like, right?

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That's a possibility like that.
Even the choice.

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Like wait, right.
You told me that before like

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knows that hippo?
I know, right Steven asks is

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it's just a student, right?
So basically she tells them

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about the scales and how if
they're how it judges them bases

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on based on, who they were in
life.

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And she says, if the scales
balanced, before we reach the

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end of our journey.
Thank you.

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Go to paradise.
You go to the field of reeds.

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But if they don't, then the what
did she say?

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The the undead will drag you
down into the duat and you'll

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kind of remain there forever.
You know, no unbalanced Souls on

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my boat.
So, you know, and she's got a

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funny too because she's like
nah, nah, no unbalanced, Souls

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on my boat, fingers crossed for
you guys.

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I was like, wait a minute, like
first of all you but she really

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was gonna help but she was like,
well, good luck, right?

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And then Mark of Mark sitting
there talking about.

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Oh, okay, so this is what we're
going to do.

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We're going to kill the hippo,
we're going to steal the boat,

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it seems like for real kill like
for real Tower.

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It we're just going to kill her.
The only if she don't lie, she a

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goddess.
She's a fucking hippo.

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You have no weapons.
How are you going to kill her?

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I actually laughed for a full
five minutes because I'm going

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this fool, okay?
Do not you.

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You have no weapons and she is.
She's she's a on top of being a

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goddess where she could probably
just blink you out of existence

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or so.
He went to the Saiyans.

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She's a hippopotamus.
Hippopotamuses kill people,

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right?
Another great Euler, just for be

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filled.
Fall everything because because

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they're basically blind and so
everything that they see in the

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mighty will use is a threat and
they and they were and they run

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like 35 40 miles an hour.
Yeah.

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It's like they're basically
little little small killer buses

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even though they're adorable as
as babies and I want one.

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But that's not Ambience.
A purple yam.

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Want one.
You think you want one?

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I want to be.
No, just go.

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Just go get a stuff when I'm
sure there's gonna be like a

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stuffed.
Our rent.

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Some I do Do want.
I told you, I do want one.

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Yeah, I'll tell you.
I was ever since I saw Fiona the

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hippo, like, it's just nice to,
like, they've been following her

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ever since she was a little
baby, and she was just so

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squishy and adorable.
I was like, I want one, thank

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now.
Yeah, I saw a video where they

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were feeding hippos, and they
were tossing them, pumpkins, and

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watermelons.
And there was like, I mean, they

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were like, marshmallow in their
mouth, so, no, I'm not, okay.

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We're not seen as soon a video.
I read a story about a man who

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raised the hippo like from baby
and that things still turn

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around and kill them.
Absolutely not.

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No murder buses, buses with
teeth and they swim

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We're going to stick with the,
the talking hippo, with the

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squeaky voice.
When on this, this this boat

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that may or may not be in marks
mine.

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Oh my God, right?
But she's, you know, she's

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balancing their hearts on the
scales against the feather, and

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of course, the scales aren't
balancing is kind of like

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wavering, but it won't stick.
And she's like, why is it doing

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that?
I've never seen it do that

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before.
She's like, I don't have a car.

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She's like, I don't have a car
for this.

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And I mean, I'm not surprised
because even when Hera was

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trying to judge Mark, the scales
wouldn't balance, you know, they

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were kind of chaotic, so I'm not
surprised that they didn't

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bounce here.
And she tells them, she was

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like, your your hearts are not
full and if they remain that

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way, then the duat is going to
claim you anyway.

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You know, I think is unfair even
my heart.

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Sir part is balanced or not, if
it's in between you just can't

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throw me off into like You know,
you can say is he still that

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balanced?
There's no gray area in.

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Don't do the same to see the
black and white.

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You be a balance the eighth,
right?

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I mean you saw Harold Harold and
Care Harold like if you're if

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you're unbalanced, did you die?
If your balance?

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Then you're fine.
It's like that's what got him in

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trouble with that because the
skills just can go on like this.

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He was like, what the fuck is
this shit?

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What's wrong with you?
But it's like is because his

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whole mind is chaos right now.
So it's like he can't be

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balanced because he's paying is
chaos.

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He's the embodiment of chaos.
So he's never going to really be

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bouncing, unless something
happens drastic, which we'll get

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to, yeah, because that's what
she basically tells him.

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She's like look, this boat is
full of your memories.

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You need to get in there and
show each other the truth.

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She was like balance the scales.
Before we reach our destination

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or your souls will be down
pretty much you know.

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And they have to do some scary
stuff.

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Some scary shit like the people,
like reaching from the sand and

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shit.
Like He'll do it again mommy

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Vibes.
Yeah yeah.

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Like nah man, it's like that
shit.

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This is like do ya Disney
stepping clear into having like

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more for more scary?
Shit.

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As far as Marvel Davila, a
Marvel do a little bit more with

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each stroke.
Like, you know, they get more

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and more into it says things
like, I mean, even when they put

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doctor, the next Doctor Strange
up, that's going to be a, you a

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step even further.
So it Plus they put Deadpool to

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up so they already got a Rated-R
thing up, so it's like they're

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just they're recognizing that.
Marvel is like, it's basically

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printing money.
So they're like, all right, if I

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would have wanted, that's what I
do.

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Like, I had fun.
What did, what does, what does

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make fake one spot for mature
audiences only and the rest for

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everybody else and they can do
whatever they want over there

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and keep giving us money.
That's all they want to do.

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But also I feel like Especially
the more complicated these

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stories get because that's what
we've been saying space for is

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nothing but complicated stories,
like even more complicated than

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what we've seen.
I think you kind of have to go

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with a higher rating you know?
Because because of the Because

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of the things that we're dealing
with, I think I'm not sure if

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I'm not sure if a kid will be
able to watch Moonlight and kind

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of understand the intricacies
between these characters and

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what they're having to deal with
and I just don't know if most

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children would be prepared for
that.

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I'm Lydia, I don't think Not
only would they not understand

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that would they would, they
would get the get the white

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sheets out of the linen, closet
and stand on the roof at night,

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time and jump and their parents
would be like, what the fuck is

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that?
I'm, oh my God.

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Because I am not saying that I
did, I have done certain things

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like this or that certain
members of my family have done,

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things like that, but it can
happen.

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That that's what I'm saying is,
I've never jumped off the roof.

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I have jumped off a second.
Second Story porch.

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Yeah, pretended to be one woman
but I've never like jumped off a

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roof.
I can neither confirm nor deny

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that I've cleared a few steps in
my day.

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Trying to be Evel, Knievel, but
that's a whole nother story.

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But yeah, I agree with you.
The more complicated is

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physically going to tune out
anyway, they're going to be like

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that.
I want to watch this, can I

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watch something else?
They don't just want to change

446
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,500
it, the Beauty and the Beast or
some shit.

447
00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:20,100
This thing stretch.
But I think it's interesting

448
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:26,100
that you know, as they're going
through the hospital Mark, at

449
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,700
this point he's just like
there's two of us, there's one

450
00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:31,600
of her, we can just go ahead and
kill her and Stephen is like

451
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:33,500
you're talking about killing the
goddess Tower.

452
00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:36,700
Read like why don't Just do what
she says.

453
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:39,700
And Mark says, well, I don't
know about you, Stephen, but my

454
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:43,700
memories are kind of a mess.
And Steven appears that this

455
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:48,300
door and he sees when Moonlight
was beating up the Jackal.

456
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,100
He was like, yeah, mines are
too.

457
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:53,700
And I find it so interesting
that especially with everything

458
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:56,600
that we find out in the course
of the episode.

459
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,700
It's almost like Mark is scared
to let Stephen into his memories

460
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:04,900
because Stephen is supposed to
be the safe space.

461
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:09,200
Case, you know, Steven is not
supposed to know about all of

462
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,500
the bad stuff and watching this
episode, I really understood

463
00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:17,700
that was also why he kept trying
to pull Stephen back in and gain

464
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:19,900
control.
Because this is the stuff,

465
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:22,500
Steven is not supposed to deal
with, you know, Steven is

466
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:26,100
supposed to stay safe and happy
and believe that all things are

467
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:28,100
good.
Just like the whole thing with

468
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:30,800
him, calling his mom every day
and leaving a voicemail on, you

469
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,800
know, leaving a message on her
voice mail.

470
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:37,500
Steven didn't realize that Mom
was there and Mark was trying to

471
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:40,300
do.
Keep it, keep all of that from

472
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:44,100
him because some part and I'm
guessing there had to have been

473
00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:50,000
a part of her during their
childhood who wasn't always mean

474
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,200
and nasty to mark, it would.
And it happened to be those

475
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,000
times when he was Stephen made,
you know?

476
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:02,100
Because even learning even
listening to them and sing their

477
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:05,400
kind of Recollections of shared
experiences.

478
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,800
Steven has nothing but I won't
even say good memories but he

479
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,900
does not remember Mom in a bad
light.

480
00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:17,100
So when he sees those memories,
it's jarring for him because

481
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:19,600
he's like this is not our
mother.

482
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,000
Who is this?
This is not right.

483
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,800
You're remembering things wrong
and that was that was the really

484
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,300
heartbreaking part to watch
because At this point.

485
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Now, Mark has nowhere to, he has
nothing to make him feel safe,

486
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,600
nothing to kind of leave, all of
that, horribleness behind, like

487
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,500
this episode, he really has to
confront his demons and he has

488
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:49,400
to let Steven know what these
demons are.

489
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,700
I think so that they can be
balanced because you can't.

490
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,400
I mean, it's just like any kind
of relationship.

491
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,700
You can't have a full and
functional and trusting.

492
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:03,900
If you're keeping secrets from
the other party, it's the same

493
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:07,100
thing with this.
You know, except this is just,

494
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:09,500
this is literally a part of
yourself that you are kind of

495
00:30:09,508 --> 00:30:13,500
separated from everything else
and it's what's causing all the

496
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:16,900
chaos and it's what's called its
kind of what caused the break.

497
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:20,600
Once mom died, you know, Stevens
I mean Mark was like, oh, I

498
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,800
can't deal with this, I'm not
dealing with this, Steven has no

499
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,500
clue, he's still just okay.
I'm just gonna go about my

500
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,600
married life and, and do my
happy.

501
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,700
See things and, you know, call
Mom every day.

502
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,700
I'm also starting to think that
it was, once that he had, once

503
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:41,800
he had this break, that Stephen
started working at the Museum

504
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,400
and that's why he was able to
like, keep that job and actually

505
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,500
get people to know him.
And just every once in a while,

506
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,000
Mark will come out.
But I think that was probably

507
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,300
when Stephen started to build a
life, you know what I'm saying?

508
00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:59,600
Yeah, I could agree with that
and, and, you know, him, I mean,

509
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,200
He was giving off like Vibes.
You just gonna buy full time

510
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,800
that he really didn't want, Mark
didn't want Steven to dig any

511
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,400
deeper than you already did.
I mean, just like he was really

512
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,700
too willing to risk being thrown
into the Sands, by Tower it,

513
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,200
other than confronting his
demons and and trying to get

514
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,300
some, get some closure and
acceptance of what he's done.

515
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:26,600
I mean, that says a lot about
him, like he just can't, he

516
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,000
can't in his mind put it
together like He can't say that.

517
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,800
Well, I need to like I have all
the stuff that I've done but I'm

518
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,400
not ready to confront it yet.
So I mean if I got it that

519
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,400
fucking I'm never going to maybe
he met me.

520
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,000
He probably said that he was
going to take a lot of stuff

521
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,700
that happened to his grave like
he didn't.

522
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:48,100
He was never go to especially
stuff about his brother.

523
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,800
I wouldn't have many, I wouldn't
want to talk about any of that

524
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,400
especially with someone who is
me and doesn't remember any of

525
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,500
it.
It's like why would I put myself

526
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:01,000
through that again?
Like I don't want to do that.

527
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,300
So yeah, I'll Take It To My
Grave.

528
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:06,200
Just let me say in a bit.
I mean, I'm I understand.

529
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,700
But as but it's just like with
anything.

530
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:14,300
It's like you have to kind of
put everything together and

531
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:19,500
accept it or it's just going to
just Fester inside you and not

532
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:21,300
be good.
So he just gave you just has to

533
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:23,700
face the music.
There's no really, no other

534
00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:26,400
choice.
He's also possible.

535
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,900
We don't have a lot of
information about His mother.

536
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,200
But usually in these
circumstances, mom, already

537
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:41,300
probably had some issues and she
had her break when she lost the

538
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:42,100
younger.
Son.

539
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,700
And he probably exacerbated the
things that she already was

540
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:52,000
dealing with in her own self.
And so he probably did have to

541
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,200
create a way to deal with her on
his own, because obviously Dad

542
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,300
wasn't really helping the
situation either.

543
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:04,700
So, you're right, it's possible
that that Stephen was the

544
00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:07,900
personality that always saw the
good, and I wouldn't be

545
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:13,200
surprised if he created Jake to
defend himself against her, you

546
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,300
know, the worst of her, right?
Because we did see him, one of

547
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:19,600
the memories.
That one point, she she got

548
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,900
physically abusive or that was
the, that was the initial

549
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:24,200
assumption.
Yeah, yeah.

550
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,200
So and I'm sure that bad
sometimes, maybe he thought

551
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Stephen was built.
Or maybe either with a little

552
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,900
bit but I'm sure Jake probably
took the created Jake to take

553
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:42,100
the brunt of all of her you
know, anger against him a way of

554
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:45,500
just to be able to deal with it.
Yeah but I still feel like at

555
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:48,900
this point even with what we
saying, I feel like he's still

556
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:52,500
not fully aware of Jake.
No, I still think it's a

557
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:55,800
subconscious thing.
Like he's not he's not

558
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,200
consciously aware of Jake
because that that is how He

559
00:34:00,208 --> 00:34:04,200
completely does not want to deal
with that aspect of his mother

560
00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:07,500
at all.
If he had knowledge of Jacob

561
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:11,699
members, he would remember how
painful it was to have to be,

562
00:34:11,699 --> 00:34:15,100
you know, physically and
verbally abused, right?

563
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:18,000
And then, like you said this,
why he created Steve.

564
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,300
So, he Stevens, we didn't have
to think about that.

565
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:23,699
Steven doesn't have to think
about that or deal with that

566
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:27,300
area with the loss of his
brother or deal with loss of a

567
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:29,100
brother.
Yep.

568
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,400
But so we're seeing in this also
seen earlier about how they're

569
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,400
showing how these, the
fracturing of a person's mind

570
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,699
happens in order to protect
themselves.

571
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:46,400
So he did all this to protect
himself from all those terrible

572
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,199
memories and feelings, right?
And yeah.

573
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,400
And that's why he doesn't want
Steven to see any of this.

574
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,600
He just wants to even to seems
because that would that would

575
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,700
destroy the illusion of why he
created Steve.

576
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,600
The other thing too, is watching
them.

577
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,300
Go through this hallway and
looking at these memories.

578
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:13,600
Like, we've always assumed that
Stephen was not really aware of

579
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,000
what was going on with Mark.
Like, when Mark was in control,

580
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,800
Steven had no idea what was
going on on the outside.

581
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:22,300
And I think in the last couple
of episodes, we kind of assume

582
00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:26,400
that Mark had an idea of what
was going on with Steven with

583
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,700
Steven was in control.
But then when he looks at the

584
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:35,700
memory of Stephen and khonshu
turning back the night sky, he's

585
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:39,400
looking at this in all, like
he's never seen it before.

586
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,300
So I think there are certain
times when he is completely

587
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:46,800
disconnected and dormant You
know why Stephen is in control?

588
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,700
Because he's looking at that.
He was like, wow, that's

589
00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:52,600
awesome.
Like, that's so cool.

590
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:57,500
And then Stephen goes over and I
think the way it looks like it

591
00:35:57,500 --> 00:36:01,300
looks like marks episodes are on
the right side of the hallway

592
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:04,400
and Stevens episodes are on the
left side of the hallway because

593
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:10,100
they keep zigzagging and now
they zigzags and Stephen sees

594
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:15,000
mark on the side of the street.
And he was like, what is this?

595
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:17,900
And marks like what?
So we're going to we're going to

596
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:21,000
review every single memory we've
had and that's what that was

597
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,800
like.
Oh yeah, that's that's Mark kind

598
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,500
of deflecting and trying not to
let Stephen n.

599
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,600
Because Stephen is like, what is
this?

600
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,400
Do you remember this?
He was like, look, it's just a

601
00:36:31,408 --> 00:36:32,100
street.
Okay.

602
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:37,500
It's just a street.
He's like, oh okay, so whatever,

603
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:41,800
and then they hear, I think they
hear some commotion and Stephen

604
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,000
runs into another room and it's
a room full.

605
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:51,900
Full of dead people.
Or specifically people that

606
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,700
Marcus killed.
So it was.

607
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,700
And, you know, the funny thing
is when they come in and they

608
00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:05,300
look, you're like, oh, I guess
we know whose room.

609
00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:07,800
This is, well, whose memory this
is.

610
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,800
And yes, all these people that
Marcus killed like, he's looking

611
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,900
at them and he's naming where he
kills him.

612
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:20,000
So he remembers everyone that
he's killed.

613
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,100
And there's also the scales in
there.

614
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,400
The scales are still doing is
teetering.

615
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:27,200
Bang.
So Steven starts asking him.

616
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,700
He was like so you actually know
these people that he looks

617
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:36,300
around after the sheer number in
the room and he was like Not all

618
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:37,600
of them.
Don't tell me that you killed

619
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,900
all of them.
And then this is when Mark tells

620
00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:42,500
him, he was like, but all of
these they were murderers.

621
00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:44,500
They were rapists.
They were, you know, they were

622
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:48,300
the baddest of the bad khonshu
wanted them punished.

623
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:51,200
And so, that's what I did.
And Stephen is like, in you

624
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,800
remember them all?
Mars like you, you take a life

625
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,800
and tell me how, how fast you
forget.

626
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,800
It was like I remember them all.
I even remember, I think he said

627
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,300
he kept wishing that he fell,
you know, and one of them would

628
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:06,800
kill him so that he wouldn't
have to keep doing it.

629
00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:13,900
And you know, the scale looks
like you're starting to slow, so

630
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:19,000
it seems as though the more Mark
is revealing about himself to

631
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,500
Stephen that they're you know,
the scales are starting to

632
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:26,300
balance there and and then
there's this little kid that

633
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:29,700
comes running in.
And Steven is trying to figure

634
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:34,100
out he was like Mark why is
there a child in a room filled

635
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:37,100
with all the people you've
killed and Mark is like, yeah

636
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:39,400
don't Don't Go Near him, Don't
Go Near him and I was sitting

637
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,100
here like why is there a child
in there?

638
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,500
And then the more that Mark
tried to keep Stephen from

639
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:52,100
following him I was like oh wait
this is not good.

640
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:55,300
I said they has to be a sibling
and he has to be responsible for

641
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:57,300
how he died.
I didn't think that he killed

642
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:59,100
him out.
Outright or anything like that.

643
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:04,000
Like, I know he's a killer
basically a killer for hire for

644
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,100
khonshu but some somehow that
just doesn't seem to me like con

645
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:15,700
shoes, you know agenda.
But you know khonshu is focused

646
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:19,400
on punishing the wicked for
Deeds that they have done.

647
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,500
So I don't think there's no
reason for khonshu to send his

648
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:25,500
assassin against a five or six
year old.

649
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:28,100
I don't think there's anything
that he could have done.

650
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:32,700
That was that bad?
So At that point I was like oh

651
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:35,700
this is the this is the trauma
that starts at all.

652
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:38,200
That's just how I read it.
Like oh, okay.

653
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:44,700
So this has to be someone from
his his childhood, a brother and

654
00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:49,100
something happened.
And I you know and I having to

655
00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:54,300
watch him go through these
memories, that was the painful

656
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:58,900
part because Stephen goes, and
he sees like and at this point,

657
00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:01,800
my mom is Happy mom.
Cooking on the grill and the

658
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:07,300
boys are coloring or playing and
you see Mark just sitting

659
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:10,000
outside the room, banging his
head on the window?

660
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,700
Like don't do this, don't do
this and I was like I pause it

661
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:15,600
at that point.
I was like, hold up, I don't

662
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,300
think I'm ready for this.
I don't think I'm ready for

663
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:19,200
this.
I didn't expect it to be as bad

664
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:26,200
as it was, but it was it also
wasn't It wasn't as worse as I

665
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,900
imagined it because I thought
that his brother like just got

666
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:32,600
out right killed and that was
one of the reasons why Mark

667
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,100
became a mercenary or something.
So at least it wasn't that bad

668
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:41,800
but still it's kind of like you
know you going to play with your

669
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,100
brother and some caves and Mom
is telling you hey you know keep

670
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:50,700
an eye on your brother, be
careful and when they get to

671
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:53,900
these caves that they I guess
they playing a lot.

672
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:58,600
The caves chance of flood if it
starts to rain and the little

673
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,900
brother Randall says, hey, we
can't, we can't go in, you know,

674
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:08,000
it's going to flood and Marcus
like, it'll be okay.

675
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:14,900
And I was just like This is like
the part in the show where, you

676
00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:16,900
know, we've been making the
mummy comparisons where it's

677
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:20,700
like, don't read the book, don't
do this, don't do that.

678
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:26,400
And it's just really like, don't
filter the case Mike.

679
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,700
Which one emotion.
Yes, emotional damage.

680
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:36,300
I mean, I kind of I'm looking at
this and I'm like I was trying

681
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:38,900
to remember if they said that
they were going to go play in

682
00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:40,800
the caves or if they were just
going to go play.

683
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:43,800
I think they just said they were
going to go play because I was

684
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,700
saying why are?
Why did his parents say don't go

685
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:49,800
playing the case.
We can really eat your ass over

686
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,700
here or don't go play in the
caves because it's going to rain

687
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,700
and it's dangerous.
He just told her, she just told

688
00:41:56,700 --> 00:42:01,000
him to why look after him and
it's like, I felt bad.

689
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:05,900
I mean.
Yeah, Mark Mark and said don't

690
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:08,100
quit being a baby and to go
ahead and explore it.

691
00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:10,400
But it's like he's still a
child.

692
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:13,800
It's like he does the child
children, explore when they're

693
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,600
things like that.
If there were things there was a

694
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,600
cave like that by my house, I'd
be all up in it to me.

695
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,600
It's like when I was a child,
but the other thing too, I think

696
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,300
is when you're that young,
Children.

697
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:29,500
Have a sense of invincibility.
They don't think anything can

698
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,200
hurt them.
They don't think anything bad

699
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,200
can happen, you know?
And I'm sure Mark really thought

700
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,500
that it wasn't going to be as
serious because I'm you know if

701
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:41,800
they found that cave as quickly
as they did, I'm going to assume

702
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,600
that they play in.
They're probably quite a bit.

703
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,100
So even mom and dad probably
knew, that's where they were

704
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:51,000
going to go play.
But I mean, think about she was

705
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,100
outside on the grill, it was
sunny, they probably didn't

706
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:58,500
expect a train and then they go
into the tongue.

707
00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:03,800
They go into the cave and it
starts raining And if that water

708
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,600
rises that quickly there's
probably nothing they could have

709
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,000
done, you know.
And it's just it's so sad

710
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,000
because Stevens following them
and Mark is on the outside.

711
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,300
Still in the hallway, he's
following them through the

712
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:22,500
doors, but you can tell this is
not something he wants to do.

713
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:24,700
Like, he doesn't want to follow,
but he has to because he kind of

714
00:43:24,707 --> 00:43:29,600
knows where it's going anyway.
And when the kids are going into

715
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:36,000
the cave, Stephen steps on the
bones of a bird and it looks

716
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,800
like khonshu.
And I was just like I just kind

717
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,400
of wondered, I was like, so is
that signaling that khonshu had

718
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,000
his eye on Mark that whole time
if I'm not mistaken in the comic

719
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,200
books?
I think he did.

720
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:55,500
Okay.
That's been.

721
00:43:55,500 --> 00:44:00,100
And that's that that's tragic in
and of itself it is because then

722
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:04,500
at some point I kind of Wonder
like, I don't, I don't know the

723
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:07,300
powers of khonshu and what he
can, and what he can't do, and

724
00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:10,900
what he can and can't allow.
But if that's the case I kind of

725
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:18,400
almost feel like that he he kind
of influenced the way marks life

726
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:25,100
went he manipulated events.
Yeah like I don't I don't know

727
00:44:25,107 --> 00:44:29,000
if I want to say that he was
responsible for Randall's dying.

728
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:35,900
But everything that happened
after that, with marks mom and

729
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:39,200
him, you know, get into the
point where he's abused so much,

730
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,400
he actually fractures his mind.
And then for it to go on, I

731
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:48,000
mean, he was so young, he was
like, maybe nine ten and when

732
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,800
this happened.
So to think about how long he's

733
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,900
had to deal with that and then
if khonshu was really

734
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:58,600
responsible for that like oh he
just grabbed Harrell until his

735
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,800
real Avatar was available.
And it it kind of makes you

736
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,400
wonder like all of these things
that happens, this thing, you

737
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,200
know, Marc got shot and almost
killed trying to.

738
00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:16,800
You know, defend or working with
the, the other mercenary who

739
00:45:16,900 --> 00:45:21,100
killed Layla's, father, and he
did this in an area where he

740
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:25,500
knew mark would be able to crawl
to him and he could offer Mark,

741
00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:28,600
the help and then you put Layla
in his life.

742
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:33,100
Especially considering Mark
thinks that construe once Leila,

743
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:35,500
he's already threatened him with
that as well.

744
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:41,200
It's just kind of like how how
far into this is conscious.

745
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:44,100
Like how much of this is he
responsible for?

746
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,100
And then I would say a great
deal of it.

747
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:51,700
I mean and then that kind of
negates his whole thing because

748
00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:56,400
if you, if your purpose is to
punish people for the evil, they

749
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:02,400
have done, It's almost like you
chose mark from right before the

750
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,600
having this kind of like you you
sort of did what I meant.

751
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,000
Does she judges people before
the evil happens?

752
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:12,800
You know, that birthday?
That's, that's the point.

753
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,800
I mean that's that's the whole
issue with khonshu is what he's

754
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,400
doing is just as bad as where
I'm at is doing.

755
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:25,300
Yeah.
Because that means that he did

756
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:27,300
the same thing to March.
Yeah.

757
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:31,100
Who knows what he did.
You to Harrow before he got

758
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:32,200
here.
Hmm.

759
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:36,300
And see now that that does make
me a little more curious about

760
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,500
the background between him and
Harold, because I think we know

761
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:45,100
a little bit about Harold being
conscious Avatar, but we don't

762
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:49,400
know the story like what was
going on in your life that you

763
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,800
agree to be conscious Avatar and
then what happened for that

764
00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:57,500
symbiotic, relationship to end
and then for you to turn around

765
00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:00,800
and go to another God, Be like
hey I'll be your avatar now.

766
00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:05,700
Like are you just searching for
avatars to kind of I don't know

767
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:10,000
fix your life or I don't know, I
just want to know what that is

768
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,000
for Hera.
Like what what's wrong with you?

769
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:18,000
That this is the path you chose
and you'll have you ever have

770
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,200
you ever thought that maybe he
was cast out?

771
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,000
Like, I want you instead of him
leaving?

772
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,500
Maybe?
See that country.

773
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:27,500
I don't know.
I thought about it.

774
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:30,500
I think I voice that a couple
episodes ago but yeah, we don't

775
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:33,900
know.
Yeah because it will usually

776
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:36,200
when you seek Can a different
Avatar?

777
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,800
Something popped off with you.
And said, I have a charge and

778
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,700
for, you know, I'm guessing it
Anthony, you know, Anthony was

779
00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:47,700
the one who said that Harold,
probably was the one who severed

780
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:49,900
that relationship.
Because if he was doing a great

781
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:52,300
job for construe, I work on
should get rid of him.

782
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,900
Yeah.
Well, you could be a number of

783
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:57,200
things, but yeah, I really feel
that.

784
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,700
Yeah.
But anyway, so we see what

785
00:48:03,700 --> 00:48:06,900
happens.
You know, Stephen is going into

786
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:09,400
the cave and he's trying to get
the boys out and, of course,

787
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,800
they can't hear him.
They can't hear.

788
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,600
But afterwards, while Stephen
is, I meanwhile, Mark is trying

789
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,600
to find Stephen.
He goes to one of the rooms and

790
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,700
his mother is standing there
with this hateful, look on her

791
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:28,300
face.
And at this point I was like,

792
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:32,800
yeah, this is about to take a
bath term because you see Mark

793
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,300
starting to lose it.
He's like it's just a memory is

794
00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:36,800
just a memory.
It's just a memory.

795
00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:42,000
And then when he turns to look
is it's the the funeral of the

796
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,500
or the, you know, after the
funeral.

797
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:48,200
And I was just like, I felt so
bad.

798
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:52,700
But then when he came
downstairs, And she started

799
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:59,400
Railing at him.
I was like okay and in some ways

800
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:04,700
I can kind of understand that
irrational anger because at that

801
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:08,500
point you're looking for someone
to blame, you know what I'm

802
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:12,800
saying and it doesn't matter if
it's your other child or another

803
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,700
adult.
You're looking for someone to

804
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:18,900
blame and Mark just happens to
come downstairs and he was the

805
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:22,800
one that was with him, you know?
And we don't, we don't know what

806
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,900
happened, I mean.
Randall, didn't make it but Mark

807
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:30,300
did, how does that happen was?
Mark able to get himself to

808
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:33,000
safety and was unable to pull
roundel up?

809
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:36,200
Was it just that they were stuck
and Randall shorter?

810
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,500
So he ended up just like, we
don't know exactly what

811
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:41,400
happened.
We just know Randall is gone and

812
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:46,200
Marcus left behind and so he has
to Bear the brunt of his

813
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,300
mother's Wrath.
And again this happens at such a

814
00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:58,100
young age, so he has to go
through this for years. and I'm

815
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:04,900
just, You want to have sympathy
for the mom, you really do.

816
00:50:05,900 --> 00:50:11,800
But at the same time, the way
you treat your child is so

817
00:50:12,700 --> 00:50:16,600
reprehensible.
The way she looks at him, the

818
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,600
way she yells at him and there's
people there in the house.

819
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:27,800
I was just like, I couldn't and
you seem like reacting to it.

820
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,800
Yeah, I know that was the sad
thing because Steven is trying

821
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,600
to figure out what's going on.
And Mark it up.

822
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,100
Like I said, Mark is the one
that's that's reacting to it.

823
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,400
Yeah, even like, rescues me,
Steven is the one that's

824
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,100
reacting to it because Stephen
has never seen this side of his

825
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:49,600
mother before.
And Marcus and tell him Steven

826
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:54,500
come back Steven, come back.
And Stephen is he's following

827
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:57,400
the breadcrumbs, trying to
figure out what's, what else is

828
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,700
going on and then you have him
celebrating his what 2468 his

829
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:03,300
10th birthday.
I'm counting the candles on the

830
00:51:03,308 --> 00:51:06,100
cake.
And it's just him and dad and

831
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:12,700
mom doesn't come down, you know?
And and the dad I don't know how

832
00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:20,100
I feel about his dad.
Because his dad is very passive.

833
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:26,100
Like he makes excuses for her.
Which again, I understand.

834
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,000
She's going through grief.
She's dealing with trauma.

835
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:35,100
She just lost her child.
So I understand that but quickly

836
00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:38,500
see she wasn't as powerful as
Wanda, she would have torn the

837
00:51:38,508 --> 00:51:44,700
whole planet apart, right?
But I mean, just the fact that

838
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:52,300
he For lack of better words.
He allowed it to go on, he

839
00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:56,200
didn't stop it.
He didn't try to get her help.

840
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,800
At least as far as we can see.
You know, we see him celebrating

841
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,900
his 12th birthday and Mom is
coming over with alcohol, in

842
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:06,900
hand, and she starts being nasty
to him.

843
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:10,900
You were always jealous of him,
you know, laughing ever since he

844
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:12,900
was born.
And, I mean, she's sitting there

845
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,600
talking to her child, like this
on his birthday.

846
00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:19,600
She has no remorse, she doesn't
And what is that doing?

847
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,300
That is not doing anything.
Like she literally all, but

848
00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:26,900
accuses him of killing him, I
should have known.

849
00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:29,300
You would do something like this
who says something like that to

850
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:33,500
their child.
Yeah, she was, I mean, she was

851
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:39,000
deep in her in her grief.
I mean, it's like the tone of

852
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,200
her voice when she was yelling
at him, like telling him that it

853
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,500
was all his fault.
And it's like, she just, I don't

854
00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:51,300
think she I'm not even sure that
she knew who she was really

855
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:53,900
talking to.
Like, I don't think she, I think

856
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:56,500
it's like she knew she forgot
this to was talking to a child

857
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:58,900
that she thought she was talking
to someone older.

858
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:01,500
No, I don't think that was the
case.

859
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:08,300
I think the reason I say that is
because this like, just like, I

860
00:53:08,308 --> 00:53:14,600
mean, the way that he like, like
just ran up the stairs and then

861
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,200
they focus on him and his
birthday and he I mean, the

862
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,900
things that he was going through
is like, Nick, are you in?

863
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:24,200
For course, no.
Child should ever go through

864
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,600
that.
That's just, that's just

865
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,500
horrible to go through.
But it's like, I'm, I was almost

866
00:53:30,500 --> 00:53:33,300
under the impression after
watching it for a second time,

867
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:37,700
that that maybe she was under
conscious influence, that he was

868
00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:41,400
really, like trying to Edge him
towards, where he wanted him to

869
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,700
go.
See, I was thinking, I was just

870
00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:48,500
thinking, man, she, she had
that.

871
00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:50,600
That was when I started
thinking, that there was

872
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,700
probably something wrong with
her.

873
00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:58,500
As far as her mental health,
even before Randall, died, and

874
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:01,300
then random it looks like she
was an alcoholic.

875
00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:05,900
You have a Randall was a trigger
for whatever, you know, not just

876
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:10,700
to trigger been exacerbated,
whatever she had already because

877
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:17,000
her reaction to Dip in RC
directed, all of that anger

878
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,300
towards Mark.
It's not right?

879
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,900
Really.
Usually people that already have

880
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:24,100
mental health problems would do
something like that.

881
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:26,900
This?
Why I think she already had some

882
00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:30,700
issues.
I didn't think cause she had

883
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:33,600
anything to do.
I think maybe he manipulated the

884
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:39,100
previous situation, but, and he
may have known or he he seems to

885
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:42,200
have a sense of people who have
something wrong with them.

886
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,700
Yeah, Yeah, so that could be why
he targeted his family because

887
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:51,100
he knew that pieces in the right
place, and Mom will be like this

888
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:56,100
and do this to him and maybe
cause him to have problems too.

889
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,300
So he's trying to break him
younger.

890
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,600
Like he's really started out
young with this one.

891
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:05,200
Like maybe he realized looking
at hero was good but hair was

892
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,800
old and what was wrong with him.
I can really use that the way I

893
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:14,400
wanted to, but with Mark, if I
can break him, Here and have

894
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,900
him.
The way I want them to have from

895
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:19,400
being the I'll be golden which
is how it worked out.

896
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,700
Yeah, I can see that, but it's
like poor Mark, and then it's

897
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:26,200
like then worked in.
Let him go into the other room

898
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,000
and they went out into the
street and it's like I feel bad

899
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,800
for his dad because his dad was
a rabbi and he had to deal with

900
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,400
not only questions from his
congregation about what happened

901
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,200
with his wife.
Like what happened with the

902
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,100
children than they see his wife
like having issues in What's

903
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:45,600
wrong with her?
And it's like, then he's dealing

904
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,300
with his son being neglected by
his wife and all this has to be,

905
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,300
has to be a really big big test
of his faith.

906
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:59,700
Like, and if you mean, you kind
of have the guys probably like,

907
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,400
you know, then this is like the
trial of job for him.

908
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,100
It's like what else can, what
else can go wrong?

909
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:14,800
But the thing I could do that.
he's so, He's a weak man.

910
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:16,800
I'm sorry.
I had to say he's a weak man,

911
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,100
like even even in this memory
when they're looking and they're

912
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:25,800
seeing a teenage Mark, leaving
in his father's pleading with

913
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,100
him.
No, don't go.

914
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:29,900
Please stay, we'll fix this.
And, and Mark says to him,

915
00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:32,700
you're supposed to fix this.
Why haven't you?

916
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,200
Well, that's how the comic book
is written because of the comic

917
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,900
book.
His father is is written that

918
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:41,800
way where his father is very,
you know, more concerned about

919
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,400
everything else that he thinks
that Yeah, Marcus just going to

920
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,200
fix himself and deal with him
being a rabbi.

921
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,500
He owes, I believe is also a
lawyer and so he was more

922
00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:54,400
concerned about everything else
except for inside the house.

923
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,600
So they're following It Right
Down the Line.

924
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,900
The Way It Was Written in the
comic book.

925
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,600
Yeah.
But what I'm saying is we,

926
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,800
regardless of if they're
following the comic book or not,

927
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,900
I'm talking about just his
character just how he's written

928
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:09,400
period.
Like yeah.

929
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,200
Yeah, I agree.
He's saying the thing about, you

930
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,300
know, don't leave.
I can't lose another son but you

931
00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:18,400
haven't been protecting this
other son.

932
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,500
All of these years at this point
it had to have been 10 years at

933
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:25,600
least 10 years.
Mark, looks like an older

934
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:30,200
teenager leaving home and his
dad is done.

935
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,400
Nothing.
Nothing.

936
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,900
And you know, it's just it's so
sad because again, mark it Mark

937
00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:42,000
his recollection of all of this
happening.

938
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,700
Like these are his memories were
going through and Steven is

939
00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:49,400
falling apart because he has no
clue about any of this.

940
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,000
He's, you know, mad at Mark.
He's like, why are you

941
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,200
remembering her this way?
She wasn't like this.

942
00:57:57,100 --> 00:58:00,400
And Mark is just steady trying
to keep him from going through

943
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,200
the rest of the memories.
He pushes them out and they're

944
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:09,600
literally in the sands.
And I was just like, no, this is

945
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,600
not going to end well.
They're in the door and and the

946
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,700
boat and the boat had crashed to
heading it.

947
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,300
This should be crashed.
I don't think I know that wasn't

948
00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:24,000
that wasn't no no no this is so
this is this is before.

949
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,900
Yeah this is that.
That was the yeah that was

950
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:30,200
Leila's dad.
Do they ask their got killed?

951
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:36,700
So of course we get to see marks
superhero origin story.

952
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,800
Now we'll say this, I've seen a
All from the comics with con

953
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,900
shoes.
His statue and Mark at the base

954
00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:51,600
of It kind of bleeding out and I
was like, oh they it's almost

955
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,700
like they were like okay this is
like they were copying.

956
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:56,400
Okay?
This is where yeah, do they

957
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,600
think I really, really accurate
with that.

958
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,900
It was there pretty spot-on.
Yeah.

959
00:59:01,500 --> 00:59:06,000
And it's like, I mean that and
then you see like the depths to

960
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,800
which consumers really
manipulate, like he was being

961
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,300
really like almost like A con
man.

962
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,300
It's like, he was like, a snake
oil salesman just like I could

963
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:17,500
save your life.
Well, you gotta do what I gotta

964
00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:20,800
do, is do what I say.
And just like, just say, yes.

965
00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:23,900
He's like, just basically
basically just sign on the

966
00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:25,600
dotted line and I'll take care
of it.

967
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,500
And it's like and then Stephen
saw it and he was just like,

968
00:59:28,500 --> 00:59:32,300
wow, he really really fuck with
you as I think it's the first

969
00:59:32,300 --> 00:59:35,700
time he realized that.
Wow, so you really did kind of

970
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:40,400
write something you probably you
probably kind of realized that

971
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:45,000
but you just The Depths to which
he went today to actually get,

972
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,400
get Mark to read all that.
Yeah, because Mark the like he

973
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,700
was dying likely young.
He should be dead.

974
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,100
Dead dead.
There was blood everywhere.

975
00:59:56,100 --> 00:59:58,900
And, of course, you know, he was
talking about how he tried to

976
00:59:58,900 --> 01:00:01,600
save everyone and it didn't work
and then he tries to kill

977
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,900
himself or he gets ready to kill
himself and that's when khonshu

978
01:00:07,700 --> 01:00:09,700
Convenient.
What's a waste?

979
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,100
I was like, yeah, first of all I
was surprised that Mark didn't

980
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:18,700
just think that he was just
crazy and hearing voices and

981
01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:21,200
continued on with what he was
doing because he's looking

982
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,900
around like Bill said, yeah, I
mean that's literally what

983
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:28,800
anyone else would have done.
It's like yours somewhere by

984
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,500
yourself.
You're a kill yourself.

985
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:32,800
You hear someone say, What's a,
what's a waste?

986
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,800
And you're like here you're not
immediately like what the fuck?

987
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,500
What the hell?
Am I getting the fuck out of

988
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:39,800
here?
Like I don't know.

989
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:45,400
I would have been gone.
I mean, yeah, he was at this

990
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,500
point.
He already Steven it already

991
01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:50,600
manifested himself so he's
probably used to hearing voices.

992
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,800
He's probably kind of used to it
at that time, but that shit was

993
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,800
just like, fuck, dude.
But I don't know because I feel

994
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:06,500
like with him with him having
left home And having left the

995
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:11,100
source of his break.
I feel like that would have been

996
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:14,200
the point of time when he kind
of took Stephen into the back of

997
01:01:14,207 --> 01:01:16,700
his mind because he didn't
really meet Steven at that

998
01:01:16,700 --> 01:01:21,000
point, you know?
And then again like like we said

999
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,800
when they went back and saw that
or hurt that mom was gone and he

1000
01:01:26,300 --> 01:01:28,600
tried to go into the house or he
was there on the street, and he

1001
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,200
was like, I can't do this, I
can't do this.

1002
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:33,200
I think that's when he needed
Steven to come back because it's

1003
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,600
like even though she Did him
like shit.

1004
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,500
That's still his mother or now,
he'll never have a chance to

1005
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:44,700
reconcile with her, he'll never
have a chance to and I don't

1006
01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:48,000
know if that was something that
he wanted, but maybe just

1007
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,400
knowing that she was still there
even though he had nothing to do

1008
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,700
with her, maybe that was enough
of a comfort to him to keep his

1009
01:01:55,700 --> 01:01:58,300
mind intact and them once she's
gone.

1010
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,100
There's so many things beyond
that.

1011
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:04,200
You can't fix the broken
relationship.

1012
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,800
You can't Ever get, and I'm
sorry that I treated you this

1013
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,800
way or you didn't deserve this.
You don't get to have any of

1014
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,200
that now.
And I think at that point he

1015
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,200
probably needed, he was like you
know what, I can't do this shit.

1016
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,500
Let me put Stephen in the
Forefront and let him live life

1017
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:23,800
for a couple of months.
I can't do this and they think

1018
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,500
you're right.
I think they had been six months

1019
01:02:26,500 --> 01:02:29,200
since she had heard from him.
So, I think that's really what

1020
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,300
happened that I think you're
right.

1021
01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:35,800
I think he brought Stephen out
to because he Want to deal with

1022
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,000
those feelings.
And Stephen is the one that

1023
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,000
walks around thinking mom is
still alive and still talking to

1024
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,300
her and everything's great.
He didn't have to deal with

1025
01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:49,400
that.
Yeah, he has Steve, Steven to be

1026
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,300
happy, right?
That's, that's his happiness.

1027
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:56,000
Like you would you call you Call
These happy space?

1028
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:57,500
That's what.
Stephen is.

1029
01:02:57,700 --> 01:03:03,400
Yeah.
But oh and then of course, after

1030
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,400
all of this is revealed in After
he finds out about khonshu and

1031
01:03:07,700 --> 01:03:13,900
how Mark ended up being, you
know, in his servitude that's

1032
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:17,700
when the scales balanced.
And I was like, and I'll be

1033
01:03:17,700 --> 01:03:20,700
honest.
Yes, I understand that.

1034
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,800
What they really were saying was
that marked kind of needed to I

1035
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,500
guess.
It's not feel like he needed to

1036
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:34,400
fully embrace the even and not
just as this little part of

1037
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,700
himself that he could tuck in.
Like, we see Steven in this

1038
01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:44,100
episode as a completely separate
person like an actual person.

1039
01:03:44,500 --> 01:03:49,100
And I think at, I think this
episode was really about Mark

1040
01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:51,000
and bracing that part of him
like, okay.

1041
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,400
You know what, this is not just
a little tiny bit.

1042
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:59,200
He is a part of me, he is an
important part of me and I need

1043
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,100
to embrace that in order for us
to be whole.

1044
01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:08,200
And is painful what he had to do
to get there, but I I really

1045
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,700
think that's kind of what it was
about.

1046
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:14,400
And, again, at this point I feel
like the Jake thing is not even

1047
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,300
in his mind, because I feel like
if he knew about Jake, then the

1048
01:04:18,300 --> 01:04:27,000
scales will still be unbalanced.
You know. but, I will say this,

1049
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,700
I will never get tired of seeing
that seeing that soup come

1050
01:04:31,700 --> 01:04:33,700
around him, the way that they
do.

1051
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:38,500
That is so beautiful.
Yeah, it doesn't fix a fire like

1052
01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:40,400
this.
Like the way this wrapped

1053
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,500
himself up, it's almost like a
teepee themself but yeah I think

1054
01:04:44,500 --> 01:04:48,100
that there's a hum sorry I just
had I'm sorry I just had a

1055
01:04:48,107 --> 01:04:52,700
thought because It is possible
that you didn't matter.

1056
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,400
See Jake, I think Jake knows
everything.

1057
01:04:57,300 --> 01:05:00,400
I feel like that too.
So I don't think you would be

1058
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,300
imbalanced.
It would be balanced even with

1059
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:07,600
Jake because Stephen was not
aware of everything.

1060
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,200
This one.
I think that's where the chaos

1061
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,100
was, because Stephen Stephen
makes everything about us

1062
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:19,100
because he's not aware of those
memories.

1063
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,400
He's not aware of those
feelings, gotcha, but Jake knows

1064
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,700
anything.
He knows everything Mark knows.

1065
01:05:25,700 --> 01:05:29,300
Everything Mark knows everything
right and it doesn't matter that

1066
01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:33,300
Mark doesn't know about Jake
because it's not about knowing

1067
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:36,700
about those pieces is about
everything as a whole.

1068
01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:40,500
It's about being okay with with
what happened.

1069
01:05:40,900 --> 01:05:45,300
And dealing with it.
Yeah, that's the reaction makes

1070
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:50,800
a lot of sense.
I didn't either, but I interrupt

1071
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:51,600
is room.
Sorry.

1072
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:54,100
What were you saying?
Not school.

1073
01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:57,400
I would, I was just saying that.
That's actually a really good

1074
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:02,000
point about Jake knowing, like
knowing it and like the fact

1075
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,000
that Jake Dagny haven't seen
Jake, but he's played like an

1076
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:09,800
integral part in a lot of stuff
around here, like in the show is

1077
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:16,500
crazy and I mean, I'm surprised
and and plus, we're not when we

1078
01:06:16,500 --> 01:06:20,600
don't see anything about his
origin or anything about him,

1079
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:28,800
like in any of this or any of
these origin stories and I'm

1080
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:33,500
just I'm bewildered that, you
know, I mean we've they need

1081
01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:36,600
still don't really know anything
about them, but I'm assuming

1082
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,300
that's coming, but it's like,
you never know.

1083
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:42,500
But I just, I love how this is
going.

1084
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,400
Right.
And I think the funny thing too,

1085
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:50,100
is the fact that we only like, I
only know that there's a third

1086
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:54,400
personality because of you guys
have in comic comic knowledge,

1087
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,400
you know, you and Lori.
But if I didn't know that there

1088
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,300
was a third personality, I would
just think that there was

1089
01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:02,700
something a little bit strange
about Mark, but I really

1090
01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:07,100
wouldn't it really wouldn't hit
me I think or I read it wouldn't

1091
01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:12,100
have hit me until the scene
where my super holding the yeah

1092
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:13,900
where he was.
The people and he was like

1093
01:07:13,900 --> 01:07:16,600
Stephen, what did you do?
Is Steven was like I didn't do

1094
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,300
this.
I would have been at that point.

1095
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:22,700
Like oh, is there another?
But again, they've never really

1096
01:07:22,700 --> 01:07:25,500
directly referenced him until
the last episode.

1097
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:28,500
When we saw the third cop, I
mean, the second sarcophagus,

1098
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:31,900
kind of jumping and marks mine
and Martin looked at it was

1099
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:36,000
like, nope, and kept on going if
they planted the seed earlier,

1100
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,400
when you always saw two other
Reflections that you, it was

1101
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,200
always three of them in the
reflection. yeah, so they

1102
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,900
planning to see early that there
was a third person there in

1103
01:07:47,900 --> 01:07:54,000
personality Yep.
Then they come back out to the

1104
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,100
ship and there's chaos because
unbalanced souls are being

1105
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:01,400
judged or condemned to the Sands
before their time.

1106
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:04,100
I was like Harold.
What are you doing?

1107
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,700
What are you doing?
You're messing stuff up?

1108
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,100
Yeah, it's like that.
We just like literally rating

1109
01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:13,000
Souls.
Like damn right?

1110
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,500
And Stephen says is evil.
She's like oh this is bad, this

1111
01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:21,300
is evil and they realize what's
going what's going on with it

1112
01:08:21,300 --> 01:08:25,100
and they were like you got to
send us back so we can fix this.

1113
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:31,300
And she says, I can't do that
because even if I do that I'm

1114
01:08:31,300 --> 01:08:34,300
basically putting Back in a
body, that's got a bullet in it.

1115
01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:38,100
You won't be able to heal.
You don't have con shoes, you

1116
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:40,800
know, you don't have con shoes
protection.

1117
01:08:41,899 --> 01:08:45,700
So they try to get her to send
word from Layla.

1118
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,399
And I mean, send word to Layla
and then she's asking, Stephen.

1119
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:53,899
She was like, um, so I thought
you wanted to get away from him.

1120
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,200
He was like, well, I did, but
this is our only shot, you know,

1121
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,100
because he's still thinking
that.

1122
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:02,700
Okay, we're we're away from
khonshu, We're Has to be going,

1123
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:07,300
our separate separate ways and I
think now, having gone through

1124
01:09:07,300 --> 01:09:10,399
this journey, I think Steven
realizes that that's not

1125
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:15,899
something they can do.
Like we're part of each other.

1126
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:26,399
But and then Dennis like yeah I
mean it's like I think I think

1127
01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:29,700
Mark thought he was dodging a
bullet when they when they were

1128
01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:32,100
actually back on the ship deck.
He was like, okay I got think

1129
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:34,500
about that for a second but then
they go back in there.

1130
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:40,600
He's like And this is them is
the moment where he goes at his

1131
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,100
mom's, banging on the door,
right?

1132
01:09:43,899 --> 01:09:47,500
Not yet.
This is where well, yeah,

1133
01:09:47,500 --> 01:09:51,600
they've gone in Tower is trying
to take them through a Cyrus's

1134
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,800
gate and yes, Stephen is like,
yeah, there's that bedroom you

1135
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,800
didn't want me to go into.
So we got it, we got to get

1136
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:02,200
balanced and Mark is like, yeah.
No, we don't we don't have to go

1137
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,200
through all of that.
Again we can just talk.

1138
01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:08,000
I'll tell you whatever you want
to know but we do not need to go

1139
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,700
back there.
Don't make us go and you know

1140
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:15,400
Steven is Like or Mark says,
it's not worth it.

1141
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,200
If Stephen has like you're about
to lose everything, how is it

1142
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,700
not worth it?
How is it not worth it if we

1143
01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:24,100
don't go back and Harold
succeeds?

1144
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:26,000
All of those people are going to
die.

1145
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,700
And if Layla dies that's on your
head and that's the thing that's

1146
01:10:30,900 --> 01:10:33,700
you know, he's like it'll be
all, it'll all be your fault and

1147
01:10:33,700 --> 01:10:37,400
then we see marked brass the
fuck out.

1148
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,400
I mean, this is this is the
first time we've actually seen

1149
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,300
him kind of like spazzing and
losing control is like where

1150
01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:47,600
he's just like, banging
something the head and just

1151
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,000
like, I don't want to do it.
I want to do it and then he's

1152
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,600
back sitting in front of Harrow.
It's like McMahon.

1153
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,100
He's getting deep now like shit,
right?

1154
01:11:00,300 --> 01:11:07,900
But so I'm still I guess harro
is like hit when he looks at

1155
01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:09,900
him.
He's just trying to figure out

1156
01:11:09,900 --> 01:11:12,400
what's going on because the last
thing he remembers is that they

1157
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:16,000
gave him an injection and that
was what put him back in the

1158
01:11:16,300 --> 01:11:19,900
hallway.
And, of course, I feel like, I

1159
01:11:19,907 --> 01:11:22,600
feel like Harrell is being
condescending but without being

1160
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,000
condescending, he's like, yeah,
you watch too many movies.

1161
01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:27,700
He was like, so you're telling
me about this If you tell me

1162
01:11:27,700 --> 01:11:31,400
about that and he's like, oh
Mark, what you've been doing is

1163
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,300
so difficult.
I'm so proud of you.

1164
01:11:33,300 --> 01:11:35,000
I was like, you kindness
anymore.

1165
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:42,400
That just It just felt so
condescending but he knows that

1166
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,300
Mark has been heaps like
reliving these kinds of memories

1167
01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:48,100
is traumatic and you've been
doing it for hours and you know,

1168
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,500
I'm proud of you.
You've been looking into all of

1169
01:11:51,500 --> 01:11:55,200
them, you excuse me, you've been
peering deeply into all of the

1170
01:11:55,200 --> 01:12:00,200
moments that make you you.
I was like you are so full of

1171
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:04,200
shit.
But I think it's interesting

1172
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,400
because Harold gives him this
couples.

1173
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,800
I guess it's cup of water a cup
of tea and he starts looking in

1174
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,200
the reflection is almost like
he's looking for Steven, you

1175
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,800
know, and then that's when
Harold as he was like.

1176
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,600
So do you think you created
Stevens to protect you from the

1177
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,000
way, your mother punished you?
He was like.

1178
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,900
Can you remember?
There's only one way to know.

1179
01:12:24,900 --> 01:12:27,800
And at this point this is when
we know, okay, we're about to

1180
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,800
take that deep dive because even
Hera was Ahem, yeah, you're

1181
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,700
going to have to understand.
You're going to have to open up

1182
01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:38,600
to Steven, because there's no
progress without understanding.

1183
01:12:38,900 --> 01:12:41,000
You have to open up to him.
You have to tell them what's

1184
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,500
going on.
And he keeps looking in this

1185
01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:46,500
cup.
Looking at Steven, and then

1186
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:51,900
we're in the bedroom.
I feel so bad for a little baby

1187
01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:55,200
mark, because he was like, this
sitting there freaking down.

1188
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,400
In his mom was his mom was
basically a monster outside of

1189
01:12:58,407 --> 01:13:02,300
her outside of his door and then
he him saying that she's not

1190
01:13:02,300 --> 01:13:06,100
real, it's not real, it's not
really just like trying to deal

1191
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:08,100
with it.
And did he finally create

1192
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:12,000
Stephen leicht from the is,
like, you see the poster on his

1193
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,500
wall and you're like, oh shit.
And then he did then he creates

1194
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:18,700
a starts speaking in a British
accent.

1195
01:13:18,700 --> 01:13:22,500
Shout out to that young man to
for actually nailing that shit.

1196
01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:25,500
I was like okay damn.
Yeah.

1197
01:13:25,900 --> 01:13:31,100
But if you know it's so it's
interesting but it's also sad

1198
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:34,600
because we see Stephen like
trying to get a grasp of what's

1199
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:39,300
going on because he's looking
he's like This is my room.

1200
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:44,400
Like he remembers being in that
room and baby Mark is on the

1201
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,200
floor and he's doing the, it's
not, my mom is not my mom.

1202
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,800
And then grown up, Mark is
standing behind Stephen and he's

1203
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,800
doing the same thing, and it's
almost like they're mimicking.

1204
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:58,800
Each other's expressions.
And Steven is just looking like,

1205
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,100
what what are we doing?
And then you see, Mark sighs

1206
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:07,000
robe in the back of his head.
And he looks in the mirror.

1207
01:14:07,900 --> 01:14:11,400
Or did you see his mirror and he
starts going into the like you

1208
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:15,700
said the the British accent and
he's like, oh my rooms a mess.

1209
01:14:15,700 --> 01:14:23,500
I better sorted out before mom
sees it and it's just, Steven is

1210
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:27,200
looking like wait, what the fuck
what's going on?

1211
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,400
And then I think that's when he
sees the poster.

1212
01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:34,200
He's like wait.
Huh.

1213
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:42,600
And it says, when danger is near
Stephen, Grant has no fear And

1214
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,200
you see mom is still sitting out
there.

1215
01:14:45,500 --> 01:14:51,100
Doing what she's doing and
Steven is just He's not fazed by

1216
01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:53,900
it.
And that's when he realizes,

1217
01:14:53,900 --> 01:14:59,200
wait, you made me up the the
cool thing, right before, that

1218
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:04,600
is when he looks into the cup
and he's in the room and he had

1219
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:09,400
his head down.
You know these Stephen like sort

1220
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:15,300
of appears from behind him.
No I didn't say that you just

1221
01:15:15,300 --> 01:15:19,700
sort of like he's Mike is
standing here by himself if he's

1222
01:15:19,700 --> 01:15:23,400
looking down and he's opened his
eyes and and Stephen comes like

1223
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:28,400
oh this is my room and it's is
it looks really cool.

1224
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,700
He doesn't because you realize
he's coming from him.

1225
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,300
Yeah.
Now I got and that's when you

1226
01:15:35,300 --> 01:15:39,000
realize, oh my God.
This is when he was created.

1227
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:44,100
Yeah.
Oscar, Isaac is brilliant,

1228
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:49,700
because all good, he is.
But I like how big few minutes

1229
01:15:49,700 --> 01:15:55,700
jerk, my heart out of my chest.
Like and so you notice that

1230
01:15:55,700 --> 01:15:58,300
without free streaming?
Yes I did.

1231
01:15:59,500 --> 01:16:01,400
I don't know what all that.
We want.

1232
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:06,100
White wine, let's rewind, a
freeze frame me.

1233
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:15,200
No, I didn't notice that my
heart and when she was she

1234
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,800
finally got in and got that
buildings, get rid of with him

1235
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,200
and it's like, I don't know why
Stephen wanted to stay and see

1236
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:26,600
that like That just like that.
That'd be like me want to stay

1237
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,100
and see me, get my ass beat.
If I'm going, if I'm reliving my

1238
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:32,800
life, I'm like, I'll
fast-forward past that Bend

1239
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:37,100
forward pass because again, he
doesn't have these memories of

1240
01:16:37,100 --> 01:16:40,500
his mom being like this.
And I think that's probably why.

1241
01:16:40,500 --> 01:16:44,200
It's not necessarily curiosity,
like, oh, I need to see this.

1242
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:49,100
I think it was a have to see
this because I don't believe

1243
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:54,800
what your mind is showing me.
You know, but again, if he was

1244
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:59,100
created to have no fear, then
Wendy wouldn't have, she

1245
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,700
wouldn't have scared him like
that.

1246
01:17:02,300 --> 01:17:04,000
Oh yeah, okay, I see what you
asked me.

1247
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,800
What you're saying Anthony.
I do like that.

1248
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:11,200
Yeah, but even then he was like,
I remember this.

1249
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,700
This is my room, I remember it,
but not exactly like this.

1250
01:17:15,700 --> 01:17:22,000
Like there were certain things,
this is Mark, bringing the walls

1251
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,700
down.
Yeah, this is my just completely

1252
01:17:24,700 --> 01:17:30,200
opening himself up, heart
breaking Laura, you've been

1253
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,400
quiet.
You guys are saying everything.

1254
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,800
I mean, you know, you York.
Burn all the points.

1255
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:42,900
The only thing is that I think
that when you go back to, when

1256
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:47,100
he's saying in the first episode
Later Gators and all that, and

1257
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:48,900
he's supposedly talking to his
mom on the phone.

1258
01:17:49,100 --> 01:17:52,600
I like how they tied that into
this episode, because I think

1259
01:17:52,700 --> 01:17:56,700
that deep down, he knew the
truth, but he had a mental

1260
01:17:56,700 --> 01:17:58,700
block.
I like how they cannot connect

1261
01:17:58,700 --> 01:18:01,100
to that together.
The other thing that I thought

1262
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:06,500
was interesting is that when he
staring they're trying to to see

1263
01:18:06,500 --> 01:18:09,800
his mother, you know, take a
belt to him, maybe your

1264
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,900
subconscious wanted to see it to
confirm that, he knew it all

1265
01:18:12,900 --> 01:18:18,000
along, you know, and it but but
you know marks like no, no, no

1266
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,700
you don't because he didn't want
to relive it.

1267
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,900
So two halves of one coin.
One wanted to see it 11 didn't.

1268
01:18:23,900 --> 01:18:25,900
So I thought that was
interesting.

1269
01:18:25,900 --> 01:18:29,000
But, you know, the whole thing
is that this entire episode.

1270
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:33,700
It is emotionally draining but
it's also a really good info

1271
01:18:33,700 --> 01:18:35,800
dump.
As far as getting a lot of

1272
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,200
stuff.
Felt that you haven't done the

1273
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,900
first four episodes.
I mean, they did an excellent

1274
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:44,400
job as far as giving you the,
you know, the information that

1275
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,300
you need it.
So yeah, like I said, I haven't

1276
01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:49,300
said much because you guys are
saying everything.

1277
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:56,200
Okay.
Okay, so yeah, Mark does get him

1278
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,600
out of that room.
And and the last thing that we

1279
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:03,000
hear Wendy say to him, is you
discussing human.

1280
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:10,700
I'm like, Why?
Why?

1281
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:21,000
But yes, this is Stephen comes
to the realization like you made

1282
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,300
me up, you know?
Or rather Mark is like no, you

1283
01:19:24,300 --> 01:19:26,300
don't need to see that.
That's that's the whole point of

1284
01:19:26,308 --> 01:19:29,000
view.
It's even this like the point of

1285
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:34,800
me, what to be your stress ball
and he smacks the shit out of

1286
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,400
March.
He was like all this time.

1287
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,400
I thought I was the original
original, but I'm just something

1288
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:44,800
you made up.
And you know, Mark doesn't

1289
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,400
understand.
He's like no, you got to live a

1290
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,500
happy, simple normal life, why
are you upset?

1291
01:19:50,700 --> 01:19:58,300
You didn't have to deal with
none of this stuff but oh Hey

1292
01:19:58,300 --> 01:20:01,800
there's if this evidence that he
was conscious, you you

1293
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,100
disgusting human and maybe shoot
he was influencing her.

1294
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,100
Right.
Maybe.

1295
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:15,500
But I mean now nothing.
This is this.

1296
01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:18,400
Next part is next part is just
to really fucking tragic.

1297
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,200
Oh my God.
Yeah, because this is when

1298
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,100
Steven finds out that she's not
alive, and you know, this is

1299
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:25,400
when Marcus tell him, he was
like, you got to live a happy

1300
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,600
normal life.
You got to think that she loved

1301
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,700
you.
You didn't grow up thinking that

1302
01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:35,200
she hated you, or knowing that
she beat you, or any of that you

1303
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:39,000
thought that she was that she
loved you. she was kind that she

1304
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,800
still alive and this team is
like, what do you mean I speak

1305
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,100
to her every day and I'm like,
do you don't speak to her?

1306
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:49,400
You talked to her on, you talk
to her voicemail or something

1307
01:20:49,900 --> 01:20:55,100
but um you know March starts
telling him that you know.

1308
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,100
Yeah this is what happened, Dad
called me about a Shiva and I

1309
01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:01,800
was like, oh, okay.
So you know, I think that was

1310
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,400
one complaint.
I saw early on in the series,

1311
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,500
they were like, he's supposed to
be Jewish.

1312
01:21:06,500 --> 01:21:10,400
I'm like, okay, well, he just
confirmed it right here but, you

1313
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:15,800
know, but He says he tried to go
and he couldn't he couldn't do

1314
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,000
it.
And Stephen is like, I'm not

1315
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:20,500
believing this.
No uh-uh.

1316
01:21:20,700 --> 01:21:23,300
No.
And it's one of those things

1317
01:21:23,300 --> 01:21:29,300
where Mark now is trying to calm
down Steven and he ends up

1318
01:21:29,300 --> 01:21:34,800
waking up in v.
In the psyche room with Harold

1319
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,000
and he starts talking, he's like
oh my God because he throws some

1320
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,600
water in Harold's face and he's
like, oh my God, I'm so sorry.

1321
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:45,700
I Harrow is like Steven and
Steven is like, hold up.

1322
01:21:45,700 --> 01:21:49,500
This is not right.
Wait, I know this place.

1323
01:21:49,700 --> 01:21:50,800
What?
What's going on?

1324
01:21:50,900 --> 01:21:55,000
You shot me.
You know, you just start trying

1325
01:21:55,000 --> 01:22:01,100
to figure out what's going on.
It's just like, okay, Steven now

1326
01:22:02,300 --> 01:22:08,000
and, This whole exchange is
interesting because we get to

1327
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,100
see Steven introduce, you know,
talk to her.

1328
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:14,300
Oh, and he's being Stephen, of
course.

1329
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,600
He was like.
Yeah.

1330
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:16,900
Okay.
So you're a doctor.

1331
01:22:16,900 --> 01:22:18,100
Now you've gone up in this
world.

1332
01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:20,300
Are you got that silly little
mustache?

1333
01:22:20,300 --> 01:22:27,300
And yeah, this is not weird at
all, and you know, that's when,

1334
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,500
you know, they have this
conversation, he's like yeah I

1335
01:22:29,500 --> 01:22:33,400
asked Steven, I mean, I asked
Martha open up to you did he and

1336
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:42,300
and Steve and his face, his
face, just breaks me. he just,

1337
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:52,200
This one, this will see where
where Harold like calls calls

1338
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:57,300
his mom like that shit was so
fucking heartbreaking, man.

1339
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,100
It's like it's like and that's
the point where you saw the

1340
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:04,200
realization and Stevens eyes
where he was like oh no you have

1341
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,500
to call it's probably business,
please don't and it's like oh my

1342
01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:11,500
God like that was and the the
way he looked at the phone and

1343
01:23:11,500 --> 01:23:14,900
she was just kidding you touched
about you just like she's dead.

1344
01:23:16,100 --> 01:23:22,500
Hear the dial tone is just like,
like the realization is just

1345
01:23:22,500 --> 01:23:27,800
that should, but they also fit
finding out that he was the one

1346
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,400
that brought them to dr.
Harrell.

1347
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,000
So, apparently, he knew
something was going on, at least

1348
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,500
in his mind, you know, whatever
this is going on.

1349
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,500
He's like, okay, something's
going on.

1350
01:23:38,500 --> 01:23:42,100
So, I need to go see the doctor.
And Doctor hair was like, yeah,

1351
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:43,700
you're the one who brought you a
Mark here?

1352
01:23:44,300 --> 01:23:48,700
It seems like what?
I did this, huh?

1353
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,300
Okay.
And then that's when they do the

1354
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:51,500
phone call.
And I was just sitting there

1355
01:23:51,500 --> 01:23:54,900
like, I, I had to pause.
I was like, I can't, I can't.

1356
01:23:57,100 --> 01:24:01,200
I can't.
Because it's, like, as he's

1357
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:05,300
calling her, like you said he
starts, it's almost like he goes

1358
01:24:05,300 --> 01:24:07,800
from.
Yeah, my mom's alive, and then

1359
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,700
it's like, no, no, no, no, no,
don't bother her.

1360
01:24:10,700 --> 01:24:14,700
No, she leave her alone that and
it's almost, like, I don't know

1361
01:24:14,700 --> 01:24:18,500
if it's the realization or if
it's just that he's thinking

1362
01:24:18,500 --> 01:24:22,300
about what Marcus told him, and
that's what the realization is.

1363
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:28,100
So it's like, either way, it
goes just to see his face break.

1364
01:24:28,500 --> 01:24:30,100
When he says that, his mom is
dead.

1365
01:24:30,100 --> 01:24:34,900
I was like I don't want to see
Oscar Isaac cry.

1366
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,800
You gotta love that this
episode.

1367
01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:47,500
It is lose him breaking.
It was him breaking, it was him

1368
01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:49,900
breaking down the street.
We got.

1369
01:24:49,900 --> 01:24:54,500
Yeah, that that was too much.
I mean, the host like that, that

1370
01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:59,800
whole sequence from them like
sitting is called sitting sis a

1371
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:04,900
Seder, Shiva soon Shiva.
Then his father looking out the

1372
01:25:04,900 --> 01:25:08,300
window and seeing him standing
across the street with a flask

1373
01:25:08,500 --> 01:25:11,600
and saying, indicating trying to
get them to come in and shaking

1374
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,800
his head.
And like feel like I said, like

1375
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,300
him just kneeling breaking down
in the middle of the street,

1376
01:25:18,300 --> 01:25:21,000
taking this yarmulke off and
slamming into the ground and

1377
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:25,700
punching it and punching it in.
Like breaking down mentally,

1378
01:25:25,700 --> 01:25:27,600
like in the middle of the damn
street.

1379
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,700
I wonder, is that the first
time, his father had seen him,

1380
01:25:30,700 --> 01:25:34,000
since he left home.
I assumed it was.

1381
01:25:34,500 --> 01:25:36,400
Yeah.
It was not end in a while.

1382
01:25:36,700 --> 01:25:37,900
Yeah.
Yeah.

1383
01:25:37,900 --> 01:25:41,900
If it wasn't yet, if it wasn't
his first time, that it's been a

1384
01:25:41,900 --> 01:25:44,200
minute.
It's been a long time, but I'm

1385
01:25:44,700 --> 01:25:47,200
thinking it product that he
probably hasn't seen him since

1386
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:51,600
he went off.
And then I can crying and

1387
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:56,300
switching switching to Stephen
and Stevens like oblivious like,

1388
01:25:56,300 --> 01:25:58,800
fuck, I'm lost.
Like holy, yeah.

1389
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,300
Like I said, I feel like that.
That, that that's where it

1390
01:26:01,300 --> 01:26:04,100
happened.
Yeah, right there, it was like,

1391
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:06,200
oh okay, you know what, I don't
want to deal with this.

1392
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,700
I can't deal with this.
You know what?

1393
01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:12,100
Yeah, we're gonna bring Steven
to the Forefront.

1394
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:17,000
And it's a weird because Stephen
actually gets deceived like he

1395
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,900
really gets to see it at this
point.

1396
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,400
I was like that's got to be so
bizarre.

1397
01:26:23,700 --> 01:26:28,600
To witness that to see a version
of yourself turning to you.

1398
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:34,300
I don't even know how to.
I don't even know how to say it,

1399
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:39,400
but immediately, he picks up the
phone and he calls his mom.

1400
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,300
He's like, yeah, can you believe
it?

1401
01:26:42,300 --> 01:26:44,600
I'm lost again.
I don't know what's going on.

1402
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,600
I just totally did it.
I'm and I'm like, you don't even

1403
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,800
recognize your or rather he
does.

1404
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,400
He's like, it kind of looks like
Mayfair.

1405
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:56,100
So it's kind of look like, you
know, where I grew up, but of

1406
01:26:56,100 --> 01:26:58,700
course, I can't be here.
How a my hair.

1407
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:03,100
And then, that's when Mark says,
this was the moment that I Our

1408
01:27:03,100 --> 01:27:05,100
Lives started bleeding into each
other.

1409
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,100
He was like, I just couldn't, I
couldn't face that again.

1410
01:27:11,300 --> 01:27:16,400
I tell you, I just want to give
Mark, Steven just like a big old

1411
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:20,100
hug but this is the point where
Steve has to tell them.

1412
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:24,400
Look, it wasn't your fault for
all the things that she did and

1413
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,600
I think that's really what Mark
needed to hear.

1414
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:33,700
You know, and then it wasn't his
fault that Randall died, right.

1415
01:27:33,700 --> 01:27:38,900
I think he really needed to hear
that from someone and it just

1416
01:27:38,900 --> 01:27:42,800
happened to be a version of his
self that that totem and then

1417
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:47,000
the ground shakes.
And that means that the boat is

1418
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:51,100
stopped.
And they there at the gates of

1419
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:53,600
those Cyrus and they're running
and I love the way they

1420
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,000
transition this thing because
it's like you're on the street

1421
01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:00,200
and then you're on the boat.
And then you see, this really,

1422
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,400
really gorgeous piece of
architecture.

1423
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,600
I can't think of anything else
to call it.

1424
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:11,500
It's architecture, but they're
at the gates, and they're still

1425
01:28:11,500 --> 01:28:14,000
unbalanced, you know?
It's still kind of even though

1426
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:18,600
it's very slight, like maybe
just a half inch or something,

1427
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:23,800
it is just still unbalanced.
And so you see the creepy

1428
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,200
crawlies coming out of the Sands
to get them.

1429
01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:31,800
Creepy crawlies.
Okay, that's what they are.

1430
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:36,500
Some beasts and zombies sins
away.

1431
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,600
I don't even know if I would
consider that zombies because

1432
01:28:40,900 --> 01:28:43,200
and Stephen is like, Mark, they
don't look friendly.

1433
01:28:46,700 --> 01:28:49,800
But these are the souls of all
the people that Mark is killed.

1434
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:55,300
Yeah, that's not going to be
awkward, but Mark is writing,

1435
01:28:55,300 --> 01:29:02,200
he's holding his own and Stephen
is like he's hiding because

1436
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,100
that's what Mark has told him to
do, but they're almost about to

1437
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:09,900
push, Mark over into the Sands,
Stephen takes action, he fears

1438
01:29:09,900 --> 01:29:14,500
the boning different direction,
and they kind of go, you know,

1439
01:29:14,500 --> 01:29:17,700
shift one way to the other, is
kind of like watching the scene

1440
01:29:17,700 --> 01:29:21,000
in Pirates of the Caribbean when
they Rocking the Boat.

1441
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:30,200
Going where?
Yeah, but Mark is kind of sort

1442
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,900
of getting his butt kicked and
Stephen the shock things.

1443
01:29:32,900 --> 01:29:38,300
Like, Mark, you've got this, he
was like but if I'm you mean,

1444
01:29:38,300 --> 01:29:40,900
is, I've got this too.
And that's the first time you

1445
01:29:40,900 --> 01:29:44,500
really see Steve and just kind
of like, okay, you know what, I

1446
01:29:44,508 --> 01:29:49,100
can fight too, because I'm a
part of him and he starts

1447
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,400
fighting and doing the stuff.
Tough.

1448
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:57,800
But there's one behind him that
just kind of sneaks up and when

1449
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:06,400
they try to take him out, He
gets that one but then.

1450
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,200
I mean, he's going to town that
I was looking at mostly okay.

1451
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:14,600
Megan Junior I mean back I mean
he's going off.

1452
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:19,500
Then one of them comes from a
side of the boat and tries to

1453
01:30:19,500 --> 01:30:25,700
grab Mark and Stephen saves
Mark, but he ends up going over

1454
01:30:25,700 --> 01:30:28,400
in the Sands.
Yeah, two things.

1455
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:34,100
Oh wait, wait.
He gets into the saying.

1456
01:30:34,900 --> 01:30:37,900
And when he stands up, he's
trying to go to, he's like,

1457
01:30:37,900 --> 01:30:41,000
calling out for Mark because
Steven is calling out for him.

1458
01:30:41,500 --> 01:30:43,600
He runs he's trying to get on
the boat.

1459
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:48,700
And he starts fucking freezing,
and at this point, I lost my

1460
01:30:48,700 --> 01:30:52,800
shit watching this.
I was like, no, no no, no.

1461
01:30:52,900 --> 01:30:56,400
When I tell you, I was, I was
ugly crying at this point.

1462
01:30:57,700 --> 01:31:03,700
Ugly crying.
Because you saw how much it hurt

1463
01:31:03,700 --> 01:31:06,600
Mark to leave Steven behind,
like he was like, go back, he's

1464
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:11,300
coming, we got to save him.
We got to savor and, and Steven

1465
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:14,000
is there.
He's reaching out for Mark and

1466
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:19,100
he literally freezes like that.
And I was just like, And then

1467
01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:22,100
after that, the scales are
balanced.

1468
01:31:22,900 --> 01:31:25,900
What?
What?

1469
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:33,000
Every field of rain is pretty
very beautiful.

1470
01:31:33,300 --> 01:31:41,500
If you build it, they will come
Beautiful.

1471
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:43,900
All right.
I got two things, one.

1472
01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:46,900
Wow, was, I mean, I understand
Market just gone through

1473
01:31:46,900 --> 01:31:49,200
fighting this stuff.
Why is he still hanging on one

1474
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,500
side of the boat?
Where the, where the salmon were

1475
01:31:51,500 --> 01:31:53,800
crawling over to side?
Like why do you get in the

1476
01:31:53,808 --> 01:31:56,800
middle of the fucking boat?
I think, maybe he thought they

1477
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,400
got them all.
I think maybe just because, you

1478
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:04,100
know, I mean there was what,
one, two, three, four, maybe

1479
01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:06,100
five that were actually on the
ship.

1480
01:32:06,500 --> 01:32:08,700
Maybe he didn't think all of
them were in the sand.

1481
01:32:08,700 --> 01:32:11,600
He was just kind of like, okay,
Or maybe he was just staring at.

1482
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,500
Stephen, it all like, oh, hey
buddy, you did that?

1483
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:19,700
Maybe it was that maybe he just,
you know, I think he just he

1484
01:32:19,700 --> 01:32:21,800
just took a break that he didn't
need to take.

1485
01:32:21,900 --> 01:32:25,300
But other thing is like such as
Stephen for yelling sixes after

1486
01:32:25,300 --> 01:32:28,000
he hits the first one because
like we scored a point in

1487
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,900
cricket, I was like that's
awesome.

1488
01:32:32,300 --> 01:32:36,700
The way Mark was like, huh?
It's a British Leyland

1489
01:32:36,700 --> 01:32:38,400
understand for those pretty
good.

1490
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,800
Jump it a shot back but it's
like from all the souls that you

1491
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:48,000
saw previously that Harold was
Being down like, you know, that

1492
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,500
a lot of all the every last soul
that went down there.

1493
01:32:50,500 --> 01:32:53,400
Hit the saying has turned into
one of those things.

1494
01:32:54,100 --> 01:32:58,100
So it's like, yeah, that's so
there was a ton of the only

1495
01:32:58,100 --> 01:33:01,400
killed like Billy went through
like about 10 or 12 of them.

1496
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,600
They go through that menu button
there.

1497
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,700
Those are all Souls that market
killed because as they were

1498
01:33:06,700 --> 01:33:10,900
getting on the boat, he started
naming them Gabon Dubai like

1499
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:12,800
just like you did in the
cafeteria.

1500
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,400
Yeah, but early story about 30
people in the cafe.

1501
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,500
Syria building went through like
10 or 12 of people.

1502
01:33:18,700 --> 01:33:23,100
Yeah, well, so if they pull
Stephen over and and the scales

1503
01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:24,800
balanced.
So there was no need to send

1504
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,300
anybody else, but I think if
Stephen has stayed on the ship

1505
01:33:28,300 --> 01:33:31,500
for longer, they probably would
have sent more until one of them

1506
01:33:31,500 --> 01:33:34,000
had gotten off.
Because I think, at that point,

1507
01:33:34,900 --> 01:33:36,500
One of them is going to have to
go.

1508
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:43,600
So You know but Stevens Frozen
in the sand now and I don't like

1509
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:47,200
it, I don't like it, I don't
like it.

1510
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,600
That was just I mean the fact
that we know he's going to be

1511
01:33:49,608 --> 01:33:53,400
back is little consolation
because it's like it's like

1512
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:57,400
really like just seeing him like
freezing and space and it's just

1513
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:02,500
like yeah like yeah they had to
do that to me all the stuff they

1514
01:34:02,500 --> 01:34:05,200
just went through.
All the all the Tama and

1515
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,600
emotional damage that they've
been through and y'all going She

1516
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,200
doesn't do it like that.
Just come over the side.

1517
01:34:11,300 --> 01:34:14,900
Like they are, yeah, we didn't
break your hearts enough this

1518
01:34:14,900 --> 01:34:17,500
episode.
So let's throw one more thing in

1519
01:34:17,500 --> 01:34:19,100
there.
I mean the only thing that would

1520
01:34:19,100 --> 01:34:21,200
be the worst is the Jake would
have thrown him over.

1521
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,800
I'm just saying I'm just I'm not
saying you what happened?

1522
01:34:26,900 --> 01:34:29,800
Yeah, I don't know anything
about the Jake persona but

1523
01:34:30,100 --> 01:34:32,500
something good.
I'm just saying look, if you

1524
01:34:32,500 --> 01:34:35,700
would have seen another version
of himself throwing another

1525
01:34:35,700 --> 01:34:40,700
version of himself over to side.
And it's not the this not

1526
01:34:40,700 --> 01:34:43,800
himself version of himself.
No, it's not just that you're

1527
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,500
confusing me spell for myself
here, version of myself, past

1528
01:34:47,500 --> 01:34:53,200
myself self movers and so right
now, yeah, let's self self, self

1529
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,800
self self, never mind what I'm
saying.

1530
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:03,700
This was heartbreak I think and
I think I guess for me this was

1531
01:35:03,700 --> 01:35:06,300
even a better episode than the
last episode.

1532
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:12,300
Just because we got all of the,
as Lord, like to say info dump

1533
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,400
because we got all of the back
story because we got to see

1534
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:20,500
those emotional moments because
we got to see, you know, kind of

1535
01:35:20,500 --> 01:35:25,100
Mark.
Opening up to Stephen and not

1536
01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:28,500
just treating him as just
something over there on the side

1537
01:35:28,500 --> 01:35:31,900
or you know what I'm saying?
He finally did open up even

1538
01:35:31,900 --> 01:35:36,600
though it was involuntary.
I think that at this point, he

1539
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:42,300
knew that he needed that in
order to get done what they need

1540
01:35:42,300 --> 01:35:45,000
to get done.
And now that Steven is kind of

1541
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,000
Overboard.
I don't know how that's going to

1542
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,400
affect Mark.
Like what is he going to do?

1543
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,300
He standing there in the field
of reeds.

1544
01:35:51,300 --> 01:35:55,100
He's in Paradise.
Now, and see all you doing is,

1545
01:35:55,300 --> 01:35:59,200
is making me concerned that its
last episode is going to be

1546
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:02,900
rushed.
Like, we have one episode left

1547
01:36:02,900 --> 01:36:05,500
and we have so many things, we
need to tie up.

1548
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,800
We got hair.
Oh, we got a free concert.

1549
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:12,000
We got to bring Stephen and Mark
back.

1550
01:36:13,300 --> 01:36:15,700
We got to Rick reconcile with
Layla.

1551
01:36:15,700 --> 01:36:19,800
I mean, there is a lot that we
have to do and it's just one

1552
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:23,400
episode, but you know what, I
will, I say this, I feel like

1553
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,800
the pacing for the show has been
really good because we even said

1554
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:30,400
it, when we discuss episode 4,
we were like, we only have two

1555
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,900
episodes left.
They got a lot to tell us in

1556
01:36:33,900 --> 01:36:36,600
those two episodes and I feel
like with this episode they did

1557
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:42,400
a really, really good job.
So I, you know, I have to get it

1558
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,400
done but was still at the same
place, we were at the end of

1559
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,900
episode 4.
This is true.

1560
01:36:48,300 --> 01:36:51,900
We didn't go anywhere when you
put it like that.

1561
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:57,800
If we screw the same place and
we have all those same

1562
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:02,700
unresolved and the answer story.
Plot Point have faith that they

1563
01:37:02,700 --> 01:37:05,300
can get it done.
It's gonna be great.

1564
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,200
I'm not saying they can't get
the damn.

1565
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,400
Is I'm going to fear, I already
know.

1566
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,000
I'm going to feel like it's
going to be rushed.

1567
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:17,700
Is this too much?
There's too much to do and see

1568
01:37:17,700 --> 01:37:20,900
how many, how many minutes
supposed to be the shortest

1569
01:37:20,900 --> 01:37:23,900
episode of the sea.
Yeah, 45 minutes.

1570
01:37:25,500 --> 01:37:31,000
Okay, we're going to see how
that's going to work because,

1571
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,600
yeah, now that you put it like
that, you like wearing the same

1572
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:39,100
place we ended up so far.
I'm like, no, we oh, because

1573
01:37:39,100 --> 01:37:43,000
technically speaking Mark is
still dead.

1574
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:50,700
She was still imprisoned,
imprisoned Harrow is On his way

1575
01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:53,700
to release.
I met, you don't know what the

1576
01:37:53,708 --> 01:38:02,000
hell is going on with later.
So yeah, 45 minutes.

1577
01:38:03,500 --> 01:38:06,200
Okay?
I guess we'll see.

1578
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,400
So Lori.
Come on and talk.

1579
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,300
What's going on with you got to
say?

1580
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:15,300
Well I liked the episode better.
The second time around in the

1581
01:38:15,308 --> 01:38:18,300
first time I watched it.
Yeah, you weren't pleased with

1582
01:38:18,300 --> 01:38:19,500
it the first time.
No.

1583
01:38:19,500 --> 01:38:23,400
I wasn't because I like I said
earlier, I have an issue.

1584
01:38:23,700 --> 01:38:27,900
When they go back in time or
they repeat the same day over or

1585
01:38:27,900 --> 01:38:29,800
it's in someone's head those
episodes.

1586
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:33,000
I usually don't like, but I will
say that.

1587
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:36,700
Once I watched the second time,
Two things came out to me, it

1588
01:38:36,700 --> 01:38:40,200
was the better Pace.
Info dump that I've seen in

1589
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,700
other shows that, I like the way
they did it.

1590
01:38:43,500 --> 01:38:49,600
The second thing is that the,
the emotional feelings,

1591
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:53,000
emotional acting that they did
it as it really made.

1592
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:57,600
You feel really bad for Mark not
not, you know, Stephen but Mark

1593
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:00,000
you just like, wow, this was his
childhood.

1594
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,500
This is what happened to him.
And I think the thing is that

1595
01:39:03,500 --> 01:39:07,200
the brought to was It TW T into
it.

1596
01:39:07,700 --> 01:39:10,400
I thought that it was cool
because she's one of my favorite

1597
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:14,300
Egyptian gods is anyway.
So I liked how they had her sort

1598
01:39:14,300 --> 01:39:18,200
of like, you know, very proper.
Very oh, I have a card for this.

1599
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:22,100
I thought that was cute.
The only thing that I didn't

1600
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:26,100
really after the second watch
care for, I didn't care for the

1601
01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:30,400
fact that they threw outline
that well, Crawley this, we've

1602
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,900
only seen Crawley once and that
was the first episode, you know,

1603
01:39:33,900 --> 01:39:38,400
they keep Mentioning Crawley,
but they've only showed a like

1604
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:43,600
that one time or was Crowley
prolly the still living statue.

1605
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:44,800
Yes.
Okay.

1606
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,900
I had to think about it, I was
like, oh yeah, he's been in

1607
01:39:48,900 --> 01:39:51,400
three episodes.
Okay, I'll yeah.

1608
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,000
Because he was one of the, he
was one of the mental patients.

1609
01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:55,100
We're okay.
Okay.

1610
01:39:55,100 --> 01:39:58,600
So but my thing is that they
keep mentioning him, but he's

1611
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:04,100
never said who he really is and
that might be season 2 if we get

1612
01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:06,300
to see, I was going to say They
has that has to be why they're

1613
01:40:06,300 --> 01:40:08,800
giving a season to then they
have to give us a season to

1614
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:12,800
yeah.
Because I'm so dimension of

1615
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:15,700
Duchamp, right?
Which is also important to shows

1616
01:40:15,700 --> 01:40:16,800
Marlene.
Yeah.

1617
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,300
So there's three characters
right there.

1618
01:40:18,300 --> 01:40:21,200
That if you knew anything about
Moon night you need to know.

1619
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:22,800
Those are see those three
characters.

1620
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:26,300
So all in all it was a better
view of the second time around

1621
01:40:26,300 --> 01:40:29,800
and I think they did a really
good job me too.

1622
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,400
That's my take they tore my
heart out though.

1623
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,800
I don't like that.
Yeah.

1624
01:40:35,900 --> 01:40:39,500
I mean it makes for a good story
but still it's like, God did you

1625
01:40:39,500 --> 01:40:42,200
have to like just rip my heart
out?

1626
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:51,800
Did you have to shred it like oh
I can't really never really.

1627
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,800
This is that where we're going
right now come on down.

1628
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,700
Really?
That's something.

1629
01:40:58,900 --> 01:41:02,000
We're going to talk about
crushing the statue.

1630
01:41:02,300 --> 01:41:07,400
No, no, no.
You talk about being threatened?

1631
01:41:07,500 --> 01:41:13,200
No, no, no, no.
Throw me over in a bitch and

1632
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:21,800
leave me there.
No no I'm sort of a melon Y'all

1633
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,500
are bad?
Lord, have mercy.

1634
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:27,500
Any final thoughts on this
penultimate episode of

1635
01:41:27,500 --> 01:41:30,500
moonlight.
We have 45 minutes left in this

1636
01:41:30,500 --> 01:41:34,500
series.
So I want, I really want to see

1637
01:41:34,500 --> 01:41:37,500
how they're going to get mark
back.

1638
01:41:37,500 --> 01:41:40,500
First of all.
And second of all, you may say

1639
01:41:40,500 --> 01:41:44,000
that, I mean if Stephen yeah, I
want to see how they remedy

1640
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:50,700
that.
I want to see like the whole

1641
01:41:50,700 --> 01:41:53,400
thing like when Harold finally
on, because you don't Harold's

1642
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,200
gonna unleash all men.
I want to see how that goes.

1643
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,500
There's a lot, there's a lot
that still needs to happen.

1644
01:41:59,500 --> 01:42:01,700
We still haven't seen Jake.
I want to see how they found a

1645
01:42:01,700 --> 01:42:05,300
remedy that because there is no
chance in hell that they lived

1646
01:42:05,300 --> 01:42:10,100
this series go without at least
showing him the showing Mark as

1647
01:42:10,100 --> 01:42:13,400
Jake and another personality.
So I want to see how they do

1648
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:15,200
that too.
That's no that's really the main

1649
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:16,600
thing is like how are they
going?

1650
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:20,100
Introduce Jake.
Yeah the main thing I want to

1651
01:42:20,108 --> 01:42:25,000
see is is I meant going to be
exactly what we think.

1652
01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:30,200
Or you know, I always keep
having this nagging thought that

1653
01:42:30,300 --> 01:42:34,600
we really don't know where I
miss true purpose and goal is.

1654
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,900
Yeah you've mentioned that I'm
just curious to see if we if we

1655
01:42:37,900 --> 01:42:41,000
gonna see with it is almost got
Gladiator Vibes.

1656
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:44,700
When he go in he got to be on
build a reads like the end when

1657
01:42:44,700 --> 01:42:46,600
he died when he was like walking
and Hope.

1658
01:42:46,700 --> 01:42:48,900
Up and running his hand along
the long grass.

1659
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,000
I thought was that?
Yeah.

1660
01:42:51,100 --> 01:42:53,900
Gladiator bad for that.
Yeah, I thought that too.

1661
01:42:56,100 --> 01:43:00,500
So Anthony.
So what you're saying is you

1662
01:43:00,500 --> 01:43:02,500
you're kind of thinking, you
know, how it is.

1663
01:43:02,500 --> 01:43:07,100
Sometimes when you have, you
have lackeys or whatever doing

1664
01:43:07,100 --> 01:43:10,100
things for a bad guy, and then
once they've done everything,

1665
01:43:10,100 --> 01:43:15,500
that's a bad guy, wants them to
do the bad guy turns on them or

1666
01:43:15,700 --> 01:43:19,000
you know, oh, I know, I told you
I was doing this but what I'm

1667
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,000
actually doing this this you
think it's going to be that kind

1668
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,200
of that kind of betrayal from
them Emmett.

1669
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:30,900
I don't think betrayal isn't
since she's since I'm it's been

1670
01:43:30,900 --> 01:43:34,200
in prison that hasn't been any
communication.

1671
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,300
So like everything here was
doing is based off what he

1672
01:43:38,300 --> 01:43:43,000
thinks.
But we don't he doesn't really

1673
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:47,500
know okay.
If it has an idea in the Legends

1674
01:43:47,500 --> 01:43:51,600
and wit may be conscious told
him but we really don't know it.

1675
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:55,900
I mean his objective is it's not
like when he was conscious

1676
01:43:55,900 --> 01:43:58,400
Avatar icon she was saying Hey I
want you to do this.

1677
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,700
I want you right, right, right
now.

1678
01:44:00,700 --> 01:44:04,300
He's just basically going off of
what he thinks, right?

1679
01:44:04,300 --> 01:44:06,600
Yeah.
Because you know I mean this is

1680
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,100
like, you know, I just want
everybody.

1681
01:44:08,100 --> 01:44:16,600
So Up might be like I don't care
about nobody else has so I'm

1682
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:20,300
free for the first time in two
thousand dollars seeya and she

1683
01:44:20,300 --> 01:44:24,700
might just go somewhere and
Harold's going to be like.

1684
01:44:25,100 --> 01:44:28,800
So what are we supposed to do?
So yeah.

1685
01:44:30,300 --> 01:44:35,300
I could see or sounds curious to
find out if how accurate heroin

1686
01:44:35,300 --> 01:44:38,600
is and wait, what he's trying to
do.

1687
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,500
So what would they need to do to
free khonshu?

1688
01:44:42,500 --> 01:44:46,200
Like is there like a spell?
They would have to do, do they

1689
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:50,900
just need to like I think you
need to break break the new Sati

1690
01:44:50,900 --> 01:44:52,100
Sati.
Okay, okay.

1691
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:53,700
Yeah, break whatever he's
confined in.

1692
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,600
Okay.
All right, so somebody

1693
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:58,800
definitely needs to do that next
episode.

1694
01:45:00,700 --> 01:45:04,300
Hopefully, hopefully bar, I was,
I was thinking because Mark has

1695
01:45:04,300 --> 01:45:09,200
his helmet shot and he and he
fell into the water, so it's

1696
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:11,900
like, it's the damage.
Like, did he fucking even fuck

1697
01:45:11,900 --> 01:45:14,700
up titty, right?
I'll be messed up.

1698
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:19,700
Also, really, really quick
weird.

1699
01:45:19,700 --> 01:45:23,700
Shout out to Oscar, Isaac for
going on The Tonight, Show, and

1700
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,600
improvising a whole song about a
hippopotamus.

1701
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:34,500
Which, which brave soul, which
yet again, Marvel Marvel has

1702
01:45:34,500 --> 01:45:36,700
messed up and missed.
A missed.

1703
01:45:36,700 --> 01:45:39,800
A blatant opportunity to have
that song.

1704
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:45,100
Play at the end of this episode,
we already know what the hell,

1705
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:49,200
why not?
This is the last thing I thought

1706
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:50,600
you was about the same.
That's why I was like

1707
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:53,600
hippopotamus.
I don't remember the words.

1708
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,100
I don't know.
Aunt were going to be singing

1709
01:45:57,100 --> 01:46:00,400
singing like Like like we do.
We don't know where it's like,

1710
01:46:00,700 --> 01:46:06,800
how many hippopotamus?
Okay.

1711
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:10,200
Well, I guess nobody else has
anything to say.

1712
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:15,700
We just got to run to this last
45 minutes to see if they do

1713
01:46:15,700 --> 01:46:20,500
everything that we need them to
do to wrap this story line up

1714
01:46:20,900 --> 01:46:27,700
and maybe set up a second season
or his appearance in a movie, or

1715
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:31,200
being, but I really hope that
this series is not the only time

1716
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:35,800
we get to see this character
because Oscar.

1717
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:41,800
Isaac is amazing.
However I will also say, if this

1718
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:45,000
is the last time that we see
this character, I probably

1719
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:50,200
wouldn't be surprised either
because I can imagine the toll

1720
01:46:50,700 --> 01:46:54,800
that this that playing this type
of character takes on an actor.

1721
01:46:55,500 --> 01:47:01,100
You know, the the physicality of
it V, just the switching between

1722
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:04,300
the different personas and the
different characteristics and

1723
01:47:04,500 --> 01:47:08,300
And the speech and the physical,
you know, the physical way they

1724
01:47:08,300 --> 01:47:12,000
move and I'm sure that's taxing
for somebody.

1725
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:18,100
So he may not want to do this
for longer than a six episode

1726
01:47:18,100 --> 01:47:20,500
Arc.
He might be like, no, I'm too

1727
01:47:20,500 --> 01:47:25,400
tired, but he's really great at
it and I really do hope we get

1728
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:29,400
to see more of this character.
So, or I should say these

1729
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:33,600
characters.
So, with that being said, that's

1730
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,300
it for our show.
You can find us online at

1731
01:47:36,300 --> 01:47:40,100
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1732
01:47:40,100 --> 01:47:42,100
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1733
01:47:42,300 --> 01:47:46,000
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1734
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,800
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1735
01:47:48,100 --> 01:47:50,300
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1736
01:47:50,300 --> 01:47:50,700
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