Fantastic 4: First Steps - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #370

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Anthony, Michelle and Mike,
and we are talking about

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Fantastic Four First Steps, the
newest entry in the MCU.

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I have a feeling this is going
to be a pretty interesting

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discussion because I don't think
I don't think we all feel one

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same way about it.
It's like just having

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conversations with you guys and
having conversations with other

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people.
It's like there's so many

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different, you know, thoughts
about this movie.

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Some people really like it, some
people really didn't like it.

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Some people were in the middle.
Some people like parts of it and

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didn't like other parts and it's
just been all over the place.

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But mostly I've heard good
things.

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So this and and see what's going
on, see how we feel about it.

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Let's see where we want to
start.

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First thoughts, just like just
short first thoughts.

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Now just good at Superman.
I would really look, we're not

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doing that right.
Though.

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You said first.
Thoughts in short, OK.

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Relatively speaking, yeah.
OK, Alright.

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Here.
OK, here's the thing.

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There were certain things I
could appreciate about this

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movie and certain things that I
couldn't.

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I thought it took way too long
to get started.

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It was, I mean, this thing was
just, I felt like like I was an

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hour in before Silver Surfer got
there It, you know, it wasn't,

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but it felt like it dragged on
and on.

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I was just like, can we get to
the fucking point?

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It felt like it didn't get to
the point soon enough for me.

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I there were a few dead moments
in there where I was just like,

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why are we like as much as I
love the Natasha Lyonne, it's

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like the interaction that been
had with her.

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I was just like, OK, I know, I
know some people think been

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these are quote UN quote love
interest, but those seems just

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kinda drag to me.
I know people are going to hate

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me for this, but I don't know
about Pedro Rez Reed.

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OK, she trying.
To dodge those billions.

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I.
Really am now there.

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There were there were certain
points in that I really liked

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him as Reed, but there were
other points where I was just

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kind of like, I don't know, is
it there were certain things

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that I didn't know about what I
loved in this movie.

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First off, fucking Galactus was
fucking amazing.

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I've seen this movie twice.
I saw once in on a smaller

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screen, let's say, and I saw it
again in the movie theater and

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in the movie theater, it's like
Galactus look very good.

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I loved everything about him.
I love the Silver Surfer.

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I thought she, I thought she did
a really good job and I love how

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they handled Johnny in this and
like how they didn't did turn

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him into someone who is just
like being silly and chasing

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girls and all this other shit.
Like he actually had a purpose.

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He was one of the reasons why
the plan succeeded and he had a

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real role in this movie and I
really appreciated that.

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I thought that then.
Like that's one of the main

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highlights for me in this.
I can't wait to see what they do

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after this 'cause I know a lot I
know Franklin Richards is.

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The way they handle Franklin
Richards is going to be telling

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because it's just like the
Multiverse Saga.

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Like if you don't handle
Franklin Richards right, it's

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like you, you either give him
too much power or you don't give

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him enough power.
Now Franklin Richards.

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Franklin Richards is one of the
most powerful beings in Marvel

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period.
OK, 'cause I was gonna say, is

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there such a thing as too much
power with him?

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Because I've heard that as well.
I mean you could, I mean you.

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It depends on how you show him.
Like if you just show him be

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doing whatever the fuck he wants
to, then it's like, OK, what's

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the, what's his point?
What's his purpose?

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He's just here just doing
bullshit.

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Or if you don't, you know, him
feeling it at more at a more

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things than he succeeds.
And it's all how you handle him.

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I hope they handle him properly
'cause this is he'll just be

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another multiverse saga where
they kind of drop the ball on

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it.
And I don't want to see that

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cause Franklin Richards is a
great character and a very

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interesting character.
So I mean.

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He gets he he, he gets nerfed
different ways in the comments.

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He does, yeah.
But yeah, I enjoyed the movie.

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I knew it wasn't gonna happen.
But I was like, when Sue went

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down, I was like, no, the fuck
you not.

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No, the fuck you're not.
Then I saw Frank.

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I was like, OK, Frank, don't
bring her back.

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OK, cool.
But for a second I was like, no.

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And when they when the Galactus
played play DoH with Mr.

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Fantastic, I was like gonna
break it.

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I was like, we can't, we can't
see 2 Mr. Fantastic get

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spaghettified in two.
Like that'd be the second one.

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You've done spaghettified.
You can't do that shit.

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Like, come on.
Yeah, that should look painful.

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As it did, I was.
I was literally cringing in my

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seat like oh oh.
Oh yeah, he's gonna be torn to

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pieces.
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Like the sound design on that
was crazy.

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Like, you could, like, hear him
stretching.

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And I was like that.
That's not like tendons.

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Like, no, no, no.
Oh, come on.

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Yeah.
But yeah, I'm a sucker for mid

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century modern, mid century
modern architecture and style.

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So I loved every design in this
was spot on for me.

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I loved it.
Yeah.

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I mean, it was just, it was just
certain things that are weird to

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me.
But All in all, this is a great

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movie.
OK.

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He has a lot for his initial
thoughts.

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Yes, he does, but he always
does.

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As I was going to say, it was
May.

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It was average, the initial
thought and then y'all come back

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to me.
But the initial thought I was

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like this is OK.
I mean will I go see it again?

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No.
Did it do anything?

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No, that's initially.
OK.

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Initially.
My initial thoughts was the same

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after watching Captain America
First Avenger the first time.

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That was cute.
Yeah, that's cute.

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But but I'll come back to that
though because I have more

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thoughts.
But that was my initial thought.

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Sorry, Dan, I.
Start talking.

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I'm sorry guys.
Jeez.

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No, it's fine.
I expected.

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That's why I was.
That's why I was like, breathe,

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because I knew Mike was going
to.

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Go on a. 5 minute the speech but
it's OK it's OK because I know

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you still have plenty to say we.
Still have to.

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Discuss yourself.
That's fine.

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My my initial thoughts was I
thought it was a fun movie.

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I do agree that it kind of
dragged at the beginning, but I

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felt like that was more so to
kind of introduce the characters

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to people who may not have been
familiar with the first two

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versions of this story.
And also for the people who

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aren't comic book people, I do
like what they've done.

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And they also did this with
Superman as well.

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I like it that they did not give
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UN quote origin story for the
team because I feel like we've

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we've done that, we've seen that
and we don't need another

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version of I felt like it would
have been a waste of film.

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Even though I think with these
characters, with these people

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who are portraying these
characters, I think it would

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have been interesting, but I
don't think we needed it.

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Overall, I liked it again
because I like, I remember

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reading Fantastic Four comics
when I was young, but I wasn't

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into those like I was with like
X-Men or X Factor.

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So I only read.
I'm only vaguely familiar with

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their story and then I saw the
first two Fantastic Four films

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with Ian Gruffold and Jessica
Alba, did not see the one with

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Michael B Jordan.
So I, I only have a little bit

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of knowledge about what this
team actually is.

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And I think they did a good job
with introducing them.

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But yeah, there's some things in
there that I think probably

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could have been fixed or
probably could have been done a

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little bit better if maybe they
had a a slightly longer runtime.

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But we'll go into the specifics.
But so let's, yeah, let's talk

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about the let's talk about the
film.

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How did you guys feel about the
fact that they didn't?

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They kind of gave us an
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events that made them the
superheroes as opposed to just

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the scientists.
I loved.

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It I did too.
Yeah, I, I think it was good

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because there's certain
characters that we all as the

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general public, everybody knows
their origin story.

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Spider Man, Superman, Batman,
you know, and Wonder Woman, not

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so much.
But and I think Fantastic Four,

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like those are the ones that
everybody knows their origin

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story.
So you don't have to give it to

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us again.
Yeah, but I don't, I don't think

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so.
But like Hanukkah said, like it

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was really for people who don't
because I don't think everyone

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even thinks about the Fantastic
Four because I've seen questions

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like, oh, they are the original
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Like it has gone over their
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But I love how to get us who
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ones who don't how the style of
how they did it, like, oh, this

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is a year later, you know,
newspaper, television.

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I like how they did that.
So you can be like, OK, a review

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for the ones of us who know,
like in this Earth, this is how

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it happened for them.
It was almost like the way they

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would do it in the universe, for
all the people who don't really

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know.
Yeah, they do like a little

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blurb.
Yeah, yeah.

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Because it was like a community.
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So it was like watching.
Introduction.

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So for, for the 60s, it would
have been like watching Johnny

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Carson or watching David Leon,
you know, talk about and, and

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kind of introduce these people
like, oh, these are these people

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and this, you know, kind of like
the the sizzle reel, if you

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will.
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Right, because in case you
didn't know, this is how they

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got to.
Pass.

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Right.
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And this is what they're doing
now currently and how they're

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helping, you know, the community
and society.

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So it was.
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I like the style of it.
Yeah, yeah.

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I also like the fact that it
seemed like, OK, so one of the

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things that we do learn at the
beginning is that this is not

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quote UN quote, our Earth that
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They are on a totally different
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They're on Earth 828, which I
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they named 828 was for that
Kirby because that was his

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birthday.
So I was like, oh, OK, that's

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cute little touch.
So this is a different Earth.

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So of course they're in the 60s,
but it's a futuristic 60s.

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So it's kind of like, it's like
the MCU meets the Jetsons.

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You know, you're in 60s, you
have this kind of vintage vibe

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from what we know of what the
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But they have the flying cars,
they have the, you know, the

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advanced technology that that we
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So I thought that was
interesting using the talk show

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host to tell the story.
I thought that was a really

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interesting way to do it too,
because you know, so much of

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what we see with the regular MCU
and the the way that they tell

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the stories as far as the
superheroes, you have the news,

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you have it sensationalized, you
have them, you, you know,

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there's propaganda involved.
There's it's just a whole bunch

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of different ways that they do.
I want to say that they kind of

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spend the superheroes in a
negative way sometimes.

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And you didn't really see that
much with this film, with this

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family like it.
It really seemed like the world

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was behind these heroes.
Like when they when they knew

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what the tragedy was and what
happened and how it changed

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them.
You didn't have a lot of the the

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negative stuff and I like that
they that they showed that like

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even with Ben, you know, Ben
being the thing, being a

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different person, looking
different, you didn't see any

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kind of hate towards him in this
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You didn't see any kind of
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of that it.
Was the opposite.

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Yeah, it it really was.
It was.

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It was very much that world
really embraces people who are

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different, which I loved, you
know, of course, up until the

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the point where they find out
that, oh, this is all you have

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to do in order to save us.
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on.
On the one hand, that's also

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kind of understandable because
it's like it's just the one

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thing, but it's a big one thing.
But but aside from that, you

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know, the the kids sitting there
cheering him on.

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Hey, pick up the car.
You know they're playing with

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him.
Mike, what you were saying as

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far as the the, the potential
love interest.

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Now we've had this discussion
talking about other shows.

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I don't necessarily have to see
characters with a love interest,

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but I like the fact that they
kind of showed a little bit of a

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positive spin for him because
again, with him looking so

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different and him being so
different, the thought would be

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is he going to have to be alone
for the rest of his life?

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And so to see that there's a
potential there that somebody

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was looking at him not as a
quote UN quote monster, but some

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as just a man who's different.
I I really enjoyed that.

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I I really liked the feel good
tone of of the film overall.

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You know, me too.
Yeah, I mean, it was, it's, it's

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something that something that we
don't really get to see a lot of

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with our superhero movies
because it's like everybody

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loves you when you're doing good
or when you're doing things that

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benefit them.
And then, yeah, they turn on you

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when things get different.
But even the the little bit of

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time that we saw them turn on
the Fantastic Four with this,

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with the way that Sue handled it
and came out and talked to

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everyone, everyone was like back
on their side real quick.

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And I was like, I like this
because people are actually

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listening to her makes.
Sense right and the thing about

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it is she was on what was it the
UN or something so they haven't

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heard her before talk about
relations within the worlds of

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coming together.
So it's not like this the first

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time they ever hear her speak,
right?

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Like she's a leading person.
I want to say woman.

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She's a leading person in that
on that earth.

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Yeah.
But what you should not do is

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watch this movie and go watch
the original Fantastic Four.

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Don't do that, Michelle.
Just don't do it.

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This does have to do with that
version of Sue.

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It's the versions of everyone,
yeah.

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Well, Ben is Michael Chukas was
was OK as Ben it was.

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Like.
Yeah, it was relatively the

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same.
Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, yes, I can see that.
No, but of course, it was a

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different time, too.
Yeah.

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It was in the, what, 90s, early
2000.

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But France, it was more of a
sexualized version because, I

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mean, one, it was Jessica Alba.
Jessica Alba was in her prime at

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that time.
Like she was the hot thing

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everywhere.
So they really were sexualizing

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her.
But nowadays, in 2025, you're

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not going to really be able to
do that because, you know, times

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have changed, attitudes have
changed, and women don't want to

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be objectified like that, right?
And now I'm not and understand

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that.
However, I'm typically always

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going to favor the old shows.
But in this case, I was like, Oh

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yeah, they really did the
characters well in the new

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Fantastic Four First steps,
looking how the old, I mean,

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it's 2005, whatever period.
It's just how they did the

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characters.
I love Chris Evans.

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He should have never been Johnny
Storm.

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That wasn't really great because
he was not when you rewatch it.

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I didn't really care about him
when I first saw it, but we

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watch now.
I'm like, man, I really don't

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like this Johnny like this
Johnny gave this, Johnny gave

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Ben, even though he was there
for him.

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He gave Ben a just it was harsh
to the point with later they had

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to explain to him.
He he he does care about you.

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He's kind of jealous that you
found the love and he can't

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find, you know, but.
He literally bullies him.

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And all the way to the end,
right up to the end.

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And then they make a change.
Yeah.

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But the other thing about that
version of Fantastic Four and

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this version, I feel like the
earlier version, we saw that

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they were younger and that
Johnny was younger and more

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immature.
I feel like in this version

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they're a little bit older and
more mature.

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Like even Sue, Sue as a mother,
Sue is, you know, about.

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Yeah, but.
Johnny in this one's first step

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seems younger than Johnny in the
first one.

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You think so?
Yeah, he is around the same age

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at least.
Around the same age I think.

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He's A and we're not getting
into the original Fantastic

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Four.
I brought that up because in

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watching that, then I started to
realize how I did appreciate

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Fantastic Four, the first steps
that it wasn't meh, an average

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OK, because then I start pulling
out like different stuff that

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Mike said that I truly enjoyed.
And then going back and talking

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to Anthony about how realistic
this is to the characters in the

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comic book.
I was like, oh, so this is

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actually really good.
And it's, it's just like Captain

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America, the first one, because
the first one I was like, OK.

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And then now I mean, like I
don't that and The Winter

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Soldier I'm I can constantly
watch.

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So I can appreciate it from even
watching the other ones.

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And then I tried to watch the
one from a few years ago and

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then I couldn't make it past 15
minutes.

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So I was like, OK, just just
turn the TV off.

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That's a totally different.
I was like and I told you to

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compare and you do need to see
it but I couldn't even rewatch

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it.
To be honest, it's forgettable.

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It's really forgettable.
And it's a shame because Michael

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B Jordan's in it.
See, this is what happens when

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Michael B Jordan's in a movie
that doesn't have Ryan Coogler

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involved in it.
It's like exactly what happens.

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He needs to stick with Ryan
Coogler.

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Like, like, they're conjoined
twins.

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Yeah.
It's like.

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But yeah, that Fantastic Four
movie was just forgettable.

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I mean, it's like, I mean,
before the cast that it had, it

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should have been way better.
Yeah.

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Like, yeah.
Because it wasn't Miles Tellery.

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Miles Teller was.
Yes, he was.

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He was OK so way.
Better than it was, but it

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wasn't so.
So I can see these characters

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moving forward very, you know,
hopeful for what's to come,

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right with this Fantastic Four,
especially again, after watching

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the previous ones.
And also about about your point

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on the origin story.
It's just like everybody says,

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there's only so many times we
need to see Thomas Wayne and

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Thomas Wayne and and Martin get
killed.

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Yeah, there's only so many times
we need to see Krypton

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destroyed.
So many times we need to see

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Uncle Ben die is like we only
all didn't like we only see none

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of that.
And that's what and if we once

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we talk about the Superman
movies, like Superman movie did

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the same thing.
And I'm glad they that they

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handled that the way they did
too.

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It's like I think they're
there's they're getting to the

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point where like they're
realizing that OK, y'all know

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the deal.
So we'll just we'll just get to

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what we need to get to.
And I really appreciate that

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because it it kind of gets you
into the story and gives them

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gives them more time with the
story too.

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Because if you don't, if you
don't spend like 20, like 1520,

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thirty minutes in the beginning
of a movie setting up what

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happened to what happened to his
character in order to turn them

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into the superhero that they
are.

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Then you can spend that use that
time to build the plot or to

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other things going to have to
deal with the movie.

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As opposed to say, OK, this is
the origin story.

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We're going to show it in a
different way.

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Like you're going to show it
from this angle.

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So it's like, you know, yeah,
you actually, you actually get

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more information that way.
Right.

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I just want to go back to my
thing about Captain America the

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First Avenger.
So yeah, I, I did kind of have

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that same initial feeling that I
have for Captain America First

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Avenger.
However, the longer I sit with

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it and like with Captain America
First Avenger, I watched, the

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more I watched it, the more I
liked it.

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And it's actually now it went
from one of my least favorite to

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one of my favourites, MVMC.
And I kind of feel like this may

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happen with Fantastic Four,
because the more I sit with it,

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the more I think about it, the
more I'm like, you know what?

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I actually kind of like it.
I'm kind of the opposite of

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y'all.
I actually like the first act.

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I know it was kind of slow, but
I I liked, I liked it.

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Too, Yeah.
I like all the characterization

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and, and, and them talking was a
lot of exposition.

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It was a lot.
And he got better with the

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second act with Galactus and I
was like, OK, this is really

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cool because like Mike said, he
was amazing.

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He was great.
Third act.

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I kind of feel like the movie
kind of let me down.

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So maybe if I watch it more I
would like the last third of the

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movie, but I didn't.
I didn't care as much about that

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part of the movie.
I hated Reed Richardson, the

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third in the third part.
You know I was.

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Also so certain that he was just
going to hit that he like when

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he hesitated, when they when she
was like, I'm not giving up our

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baby and he was just like, well,
he's like, he's like you thought

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about it.
He's like, I think about

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everything.
I'm like, that's not a fucking

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excuse.
No, but see, you know what for

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for the for the character that
he is and what I do know of his

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character and even what they
explained in the movie, he is

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one of those people.
He thinks about all the

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possibilities, even the ones
that are horrible.

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And I think that's something
kind of I I feel like that's

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what you should do.
You have to look at everything

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from every angle.
Now, just because he thought

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about it doesn't mean that he
was contemplating it.

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It's two different things and I
think that's what.

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People, I agree.
Are are misunderstanding?

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They're like, oh, you thought
about it so you were going to do

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it.
No, that's not the case.

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You have to think about OK, so
if it comes down to blah blah

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blah blah blah, what are the
like?

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What are the these are these are
the actual.

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Options, right?
One of them is my kid, I can't

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deny that right?
But before we.

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Know when we're not about.
To do this, hold on, hold on

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before we get into those weeds.
My issue with the third act is

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really because y'all know how my
brain works.

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I started thinking about the
logistics of the plan and I'm

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like OK the kumbaya.
We are the world hands across

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America.
You know, everybody's going to

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turn lights off because, you
know, I, I, I couldn't get with

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that.
I, I just couldn't get with

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that.
It it, it didn't.

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It took a it took a lot for me
to suspend my belief.

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OK.
I'm sorry, I know, I know.

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They're like, oh, the world is
going to die if you don't have

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together.
I still.

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They really know the world's
going to die.

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I have no faith in humanity.
But OK, OK, I got, I got a

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counterpoint for that one.
But you know, the world was.

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Going to die, I was.
Telling you that's how I feel

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now, in the moment.
I get you.

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Because I'm looking at this like
we know that that there's going

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to be at least a third of the
world that's going to look at

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this and be like, this ain't
going to work out and they're

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not going to participate.
That's what I was talking about

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with this.
Particular right and the time

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period different the time
period.

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I'm just.
Saying and they saw.

449
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,560
It they didn't they didn't sell
me on that because of how

450
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,800
quickly they turned on the
Fantastic Four so I I can be

451
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,280
selling that they could have
this kumbaya moment so that I

452
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,440
mean, I know her, her speech
they.

453
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,720
Didn't turn on the Fantastic
Four.

454
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,600
They just was like, it's your
child, not ours, and we want to

455
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,080
save the planet, so they wanted
to.

456
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,960
Save the planet.
Yeah, right.

457
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,440
And they wanted to save the.
Plan they.

458
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,520
Didn't want to die.
Issue with the third act was I

459
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,800
just had a hard time buying into
it.

460
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,040
I don't.
I wasn't quite sold.

461
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,880
I'm just trying to sell you.
They saw I'm I'm with.

462
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,240
Michelle on this right, it's a
different.

463
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,080
I understand, but I.
Didn't they?

464
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,240
Didn't.
I'm just helping sell it to you.

465
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,680
First of all, it's different if
you say the world's going to end

466
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,840
and and they say it, they come
off the spaceship, the world is

467
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,000
going to end.
They're like, well, nothing has

468
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,040
happened.
I mean, today is Tuesday.

469
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,040
Tomorrow's Wednesday.
Yeah, but it's something about a

470
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,800
silver woman coming out.
Right.

471
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:25,000
They actually saw something.
Things was happening.

472
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,320
Things were happening.
You don't have to turn this

473
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,280
podcast into this convenience,
Samson, you've got the third act

474
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,120
is good.
I got you guys.

475
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,640
I understand.
But I have to do that point

476
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,400
because somebody else may feel
the same way.

477
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,920
You guys think this is
different, Time is different,

478
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,240
the people are different, and
they actually saw that their

479
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,080
world was in peril.
It wasn't a it's, I saw it on

480
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,080
the news, but it's not affecting
anything around me.

481
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,160
They saw it.
That woman said I'm coming the

482
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:56,600
the planet is going to end and
then the smartest person in the

483
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,920
world is looking like this on
the news.

484
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,320
I don't know what to do right.
Then you're like, we're screwed.

485
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:09,240
Again, if I.
We can only do this if we all

486
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,920
work together.
If we all don't work together,

487
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:16,600
we're screwed.
Do you want to be the one in 5B

488
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,720
building who don't turn off
their light?

489
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,240
No, because.
You know what?

490
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,720
Because I'm going to be that
person that's going to come to

491
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,080
1B and kick your ass and turn
your life.

492
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,440
So we all going to work together
because it's not going to be me.

493
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,880
Everybody look at it like, see,
our plan is dying and it was

494
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,720
your fault you had to watch your
television show.

495
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:40,440
Again, maybe if I watch it a
couple more times I might be on

496
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:46,160
board, but as it stands right
now, Galactus is the thing that

497
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,080
kind of saves.
That last act, OK, OK, OK.

498
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,280
Now, while I understood what you
guys were saying, and I agree,

499
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,960
Reed needed to put his words,
needed to put those words

500
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,240
together better.
Like if he if he was just

501
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,560
planning it, I get that that
that's cool.

502
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,040
Like he thinks about a million
different things when I think of

503
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,080
two, I totally get that he's the
smartest person in the world.

504
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,360
Smart people think constantly.
I get that.

505
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:19,720
It's just that he I guess that's
what but see this piece into the

506
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,280
stereotype that smart people
don't have social skills.

507
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,560
You know, I'm saying this like
where they don't know how to

508
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,120
express themselves.
They don't know how to talk.

509
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:27,880
They don't know how to get their
ideas across.

510
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,760
They're just smart.
But did you?

511
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,640
See Reid throughout the whole
movie.

512
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,160
He kind.
Of that's what I'm saying that.

513
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,280
Way.
Yeah, yeah.

514
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,400
You don't have.
They don't have.

515
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,680
It he was teaching theoretical
physics to kids and they were

516
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,720
like falling asleep on him and
he was just like y'all blow shit

517
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,800
up, yay.
But that was.

518
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,600
That was he read the room then.
Yeah, yeah.

519
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,000
But but it's like the whole
thing is like he didn't read the

520
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,600
room because he would have known
that his wife was about was

521
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,600
about to put him in the force
field and shrink him.

522
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,360
But.
Well, also you got to think

523
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,520
about this.
He doesn't have to have that

524
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,520
mask on when he's with her.
So she allows him the space to

525
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,080
think and to say comments out
of, you know, out of his

526
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,120
thinking where he doesn't have
to make sure that it's said a

527
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,240
certain way to people around
him.

528
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:21,520
He's his safe space so he said
said it like he would normally

529
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,840
have seen it around her.
She was also in her feelings too

530
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,520
though.
Yeah, but but that's the thing.

531
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,200
He didn't understand that's what
happened.

532
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,440
She said, she basically said,
oh, this is what you're thinking

533
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,920
about.
She was like because she.

534
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,200
I know because.
She know, yeah.

535
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,040
Because she know, Yeah.
So, yeah, but again, it's just

536
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,600
kind of like you, I mean, OK,
let's let's let's talk about,

537
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,880
you know, you're talking about
like when they when they first

538
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,080
went to meet Galactus, and
Galactus was like, OK, so I'll

539
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,880
save your planet.
You just got to give me your

540
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,040
child.
And all of them were like, oh,

541
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,920
hell no, this is not happening.
And so when they came back to

542
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,480
Earth and they told the people,
well, yeah, that's what he

543
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,400
wanted, our child.
And they were like, and you

544
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,560
didn't give them up.
Both Reed and her were looking

545
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,640
at them like, are you fucking
kidding me right now?

546
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,640
Like, are you going to give up
your child?

547
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,680
If, if, if it was your child,
would you give up your child to

548
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,880
save the world?
And I mean, I literally was

549
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,280
sitting there thinking about The
Last of Us, because it's almost

550
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,440
the same decision.
Like, am I going to give up this

551
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,240
child to save the rest of the
world?

552
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,440
Absolutely not.
I stole my line for later

553
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,240
because people were Pascal once
again, but.

554
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,160
That's what I thought about, you
know, I was.

555
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,480
Thinking about nobody else
thinking.

556
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,600
About nobody.
Else.

557
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,920
But you know what could have
saved all of this?

558
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,720
Why the hell you get off the
space shuttle and say it?

559
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,080
One child.
Well, I think they're used to

560
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,800
being transparent.
No, he was saying he wasn't even

561
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,040
thinking this is something we
may need to go to the house and

562
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,720
have a conversation with
everyone's not like us.

563
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,200
Let's figure this out.
And then we come back to the

564
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,680
public, not saying, oh, he just
wanted our I think, I think.

565
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,160
They've always operated.
I think they've always operated

566
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,880
with being open.
And honest and.

567
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,840
Transparent no, and I'm just
being funny that they that's the

568
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,080
one the one time.
But I mean, that's the whole

569
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,720
reason why, that's the whole
reason why the thing came up

570
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,360
about his thoughts.
Like he could have easily lied

571
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,680
and said, no, I didn't think
that.

572
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,440
But she knows him.
She knows him better than

573
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,520
anyone.
So that's a group.

574
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,760
Even though her brother and and
his best friend, they were they

575
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,360
were both horrified.
But she was like, no, I know

576
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,640
you.
This is what you thought he was

577
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,880
like, yeah, I thought it.
But, you know, not like, I'm

578
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,720
actually going to do it.
But I'm.

579
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,840
I'm looking at all the
possibilities.

580
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,720
And that's the smart thing to
do.

581
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,400
I mean, similar to what Doctor
Strange did.

582
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,600
Doctor Strange looked at every
single possibility when they

583
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,840
were fighting Thanos.
And he was like, OK, yeah, I see

584
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,840
all of them, but there's only
one that's going to work.

585
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,480
And the one that's going to work
took the leader, took the

586
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,920
basically the most important
person out of the group out of

587
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200
the equation because he had to
sacrifice himself.

588
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,000
That was something he saw he
knew was going to happen.

589
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,960
Didn't mean he didn't mean he
had to like it, but he knew, OK,

590
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,720
if we're going to win this
thing, this is the one thing

591
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,440
that has to happen.
Reed probably thought that, too.

592
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Like, the only way we really are
going to win this is if we give

593
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,880
him our child.
But I'm not willing to do that.

594
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,760
So what else can we do?
And then you use that as

595
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,400
motivation to try to figure out
any other way to beat this man.

596
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,920
Even if you got to come up with
a convoluted plan like setting

597
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,560
up these powers, power stations
all around the world to try to

598
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,560
move the planet.
Like, yes, it's a Hail Mary.

599
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,200
Yes, it's probably the most
unrealistic fucking thing I have

600
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,960
ever heard of.
But you know.

601
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,400
Utterly unrealistic.
But you know what else do you?

602
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,800
Know what?
A 2% difference.

603
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,880
They said it in the movie, but
here's the thing.

604
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,760
That is something that was
completely and utterly

605
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,680
unrealistic.
You know what else was

606
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,800
unrealistic for Reed?
Having to give up his son.

607
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,760
So if you got to choose between
one of those two, guess what?

608
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,240
I'm going to do the stupid plan.
I'm going to do the unrealistic

609
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,600
plan because ain't no way in
hell you're about to get to get

610
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,920
your hands on my child, period,
point blank.

611
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,480
So yeah, but there.
Was a moot point that like this

612
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,520
was coming for that child, won't
we or another?

613
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,960
Yeah, yeah.
All I know is that how we how we

614
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,960
gonna there, there are certain
parts of the world where I

615
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,480
wouldn't try.
I wouldn't have trusted their

616
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,320
craftsmanship in making that
shit 'cause this shit we would

617
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,640
have been blinking like the
globe in Times Square would.

618
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,000
Like part of it working and part
of it part of it flashing and

619
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,320
not working.
What's that?

620
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:52,200
I don't think that's fair to say
because you got to have smart

621
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,720
people in every society.
They may not be as advanced as

622
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,960
we are over here.
They may not have all the

623
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,280
resources and the luxuries, but
there's.

624
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,200
I'm not, I'm not even talking
about that.

625
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,360
I'm not talking, I'm not talking
about resources.

626
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,000
I'm talking, I'm talking about
like, like competent people,

627
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,920
like like company people
following, being able to follow

628
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,560
those directions.
That's a lot.

629
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,440
That was a.
Competent people who weren't in

630
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,840
that area, maybe they were
somewhere else and they went to

631
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,520
that area.
I mean they.

632
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,880
Didn't have that much time.
They had enough time to build.

633
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,679
Did you see those towers?
Did you see those towers?

634
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:28,960
They had enough time to build
those.

635
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,560
OK.
They didn't have enough time to

636
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,880
have people jumping from place
to place to to quality check.

637
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,920
All of them, though, they didn't
have that much time.

638
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,800
They had a little bit, had some
time.

639
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,679
They didn't have that much time.
I mean, this is a more advanced

640
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,840
civilization than we're seeing
on our Earth.

641
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:52,120
Please send your emails to EMC.
Who who you told who you told

642
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,000
that to Earth 828 AM I am I
going to get am I going to get

643
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,480
get like multi get multiversal
emails?

644
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,200
Now?
I ain't trying to see all that

645
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:00,680
shit.
I got.

646
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,480
I got enough bullshit in my damn
in my I.

647
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,080
Mean if they do, maybe they're
going to take you and move you

648
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,200
2% to the left.
The the views expressed by the

649
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,320
White.
Not.

650
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,280
Reflective of the other members
of the family.

651
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,080
Have a podcast.
I have full faith in anybody

652
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,840
anywhere in this world to do
quality work.

653
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200
I'm not talking about this one,
I'm talking about 828.

654
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,360
OK, then I'll put it like this,
and this is what Michelle and I

655
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,360
said.
You can probably be the most,

656
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,080
most lackluster person.
You can be the person who

657
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,840
probably don't get it straight.
You, probably the person who

658
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,840
reads something, be like what?
When you find out that your

659
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:45,880
survival is dependent on you
getting this shit right, you

660
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,080
will become a fucking rocket
scientist in a short amount of

661
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,200
time because you're going to do
whatever you have to do to

662
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,600
survive.
If that means that right now I

663
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:02,560
need to go and learn quantum
physics so that 2448 hours from

664
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,600
now I can go build whatever I'm
going to be sitting right here

665
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,480
studying.
Y'all ain't going to see hide

666
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,960
nor hair of me because I'm going
to be in this book making sure I

667
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,760
understand whatever it is I need
to do to keep myself alive.

668
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,640
I'm just saying death is a
powerful motivator when you have

669
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,200
no other options, right?
Your own personal death.

670
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,040
Yeah.
See.

671
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,160
OK, now, now, now you can give
them my e-mail because I don't,

672
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,160
I don't think there are a lot of
people in this world that would

673
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,040
be able to do that.
Shit.

674
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,800
But again, like you just said,
we're not talking about this

675
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,600
world.
We're talking about Earth, Earth

676
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,640
828.
We're talking about a.

677
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,800
Civil It's a moot point because
the Civil Surfer destroyed them

678
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,480
all, so.
That shit was I, I, I, I loved

679
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,120
Ed, hated that moment because
they were like, OK, get ready,

680
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,680
it's going to work.
Then all of a sudden, like, huh?

681
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,880
Like this bitch?
She was flying through all that.

682
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,800
Hard work for nothing.
Nothing.

683
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,760
All those nights and days of no
power.

684
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,880
Well, she didn't know, all she
had to do is destroy one, but

685
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,040
the whole plan fell apart.
She was like, no, she double

686
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,360
tapped and triple tapped and
quadruple tapped.

687
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,400
And just making sure, just
making sure she was.

688
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,520
Like, yeah, she, she did that to
prove to make things a point.

689
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,760
She's like Tim, how about she
was like, she's like a cat.

690
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,280
She's like, they knocked this
over.

691
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,720
Not that over.
Not that over.

692
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,560
Yes.
And look and look at you all

693
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:35,160
look at you while she doing it.
Yeah, she had to make sure.

694
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,200
She had to make them feel the
despair of damn it, I did all

695
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:45,720
this work for nothing.
Like that's what you're supposed

696
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,200
to do when you're about to
destroy Earth.

697
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,240
If she waited, if she waited
till the last minute.

698
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,040
She waited until they supposed
to do it.

699
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,400
Until they flipped.
This week it's like she's.

700
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,800
Sitting there watching them
build it.

701
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,840
Just watching them build it.
Oh, they're about to flip the

702
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,080
switch.
OK.

703
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,360
And this look like this may work
right?

704
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,360
And and that's what you're
supposed to do.

705
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,320
If you're that person, if you're
the villain, if you're the one

706
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,040
that's supposed to bring misery
and despair to everyone, that is

707
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,160
what you do.
So she did what she was supposed

708
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,960
to do.
Yeah, You know, we don't have to

709
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,160
like it, but she did what she
was supposed to do.

710
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,240
Yeah, I want to.
I want to shout out to all the

711
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:27,400
sexist, dumb ass motherfuckers
who thought that this Silver

712
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,360
Surfer wasn't going to be good
because she was one of the

713
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,760
highlights of the movie for me,
I thought.

714
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,840
And the way that her and Johnny
interacted was was actually a

715
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,360
refreshing part of part of the
movie for me about how Johnny

716
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,880
figured out her language and
they went through her back

717
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,000
story, which was actually
actually pretty cool.

718
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,080
Kind of heartbreaking, but I
really appreciated her.

719
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,480
And of course, the visuals were
just fucking incredible.

720
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,240
Yeah.
Yeah, they were.

721
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,520
But yeah, she her.
Her back story kind of reminded

722
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:04,200
me of Gomorrah and Thanos.
Like, it's literally almost the

723
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,760
same thing, you know, except
Thanos.

724
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,280
Thanos did kill everyone on her
planet and just took her because

725
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,480
he was like, oh, she'll be a
good daughter.

726
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,840
Let me brainwash her.
But you know, it, it, it has

727
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,120
some similarities.
And I like the way that they

728
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,560
told it.
Going back to what Michelle was

729
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,280
saying.
As far as the, the different

730
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,720
portrayals of, of Johnny, I did
like Joseph's version of Johnny

731
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:33,880
because Chris's version of
Johnny.

732
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:38,560
Johnny was kind of sort of like,
I mean, again, it was 90s.

733
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,880
He was very much a horn dog.
He was very much the

734
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:47,240
inappropriate jokes, the kind
of, you know, almost creep vibe

735
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:50,920
because he was just trying to,
you know, trying to get with

736
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,880
someone and just the weird
flirting.

737
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,520
This version of Johnny was not
that way.

738
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,160
Like, yes, he was still lonely
and he still made the just like,

739
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,880
Oh yeah, yeah, she's is is that
what you know what?

740
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,360
What was it that he said
something about the the

741
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,800
surfboard like?
Oh, was he a part of your body?

742
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,480
Yeah.
There was a part of your body,

743
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,720
and I was like, please, let's
not do this.

744
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:17,960
But he didn't overdo it.
No, what I'm saying.

745
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,080
And then when it got to the
point where he started putting

746
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,840
things together, like he was
like, OK, something about this

747
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,840
sounds something like this.
And he started actually doing

748
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,280
his work.
I was like, OK, I like the way

749
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,000
that they're portraying him
because they're making it seem

750
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,280
like, yeah, he's the jokester.
He's this, but he's also very

751
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,280
serious.
He's like, smart and smart.

752
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,080
Yeah, that looks like that's
smart.

753
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,080
Nobody else is paying attention
to this.

754
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Everybody else is doing this.
So somebody needs to be doing

755
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,720
this.
Let me work on this.

756
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,040
And he figured it out and, like,
told them about it.

757
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,280
He was able to to actually use
that to get through to her.

758
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,040
You know, I was like, I I like
this, this version of him.

759
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,320
He's not, he's not overly
arrogant.

760
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,200
He's not brash.
He's not, you know, he's not the

761
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,160
type of person who's just going
to ignore what other people are

762
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,560
telling him.
Like he was none of that.

763
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,000
And I thought that was very
refreshing for his character,

764
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,560
you know?
I did too, because it made me

765
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,480
realize why he was chosen to go
on the mission that changed

766
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,800
them, if that makes sense.
Because in in the again, the

767
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,760
previous movies, well, the
first, you know, the first

768
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,520
group, I didn't understand why
Johnny, OK, nepotism.

769
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,280
That's what I just thought it
was like, oh, that's how, you

770
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,360
know, he wanted to go to space.
That's you know what I'm saying?

771
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,520
That's her brother and stuff.
But.

772
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,080
Take your brother with you.
Right.

773
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,600
Even least in the second with
Michael B Jordan, they did talk

774
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,160
about how he was smart.
So we got a little bit of that,

775
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,440
but I really enjoyed this.
Like he he holds his own.

776
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,640
He's not just Sue's brother and
he just came on his mission.

777
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,600
He was there for a a reason.
'Cause in the intro didn't read

778
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,520
say he chose the smartest people
he knew, which was his family.

779
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:15,280
Yeah, they it was like they just
happen to be family, you know,

780
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,400
my my brother-in-law, my wife
and my best friend.

781
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,560
But.
And I and I like that way even

782
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,480
being like Ben is the pilot,
like he was a great pilot and

783
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,040
you need that in the first
movie.

784
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,360
I wasn't when I rewatched.
Kind of sure.

785
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:35,040
I think they mentioned it and
the latest Fantastic Four before

786
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,160
first steps.
Ben was just you don't watch it,

787
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,960
but Ben was just his friend
because you know, he got bullied

788
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,080
read.
So he had a friend who would

789
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,200
beat people up and the friend
end up going.

790
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:48,880
OK.
Yeah.

791
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,880
And this one.
So then that was Ben.

792
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,400
So Ben wasn't there because he
was great pilot or he was smart.

793
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,160
He just end up happy to go.
I think in this one they were.

794
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,920
It was almost like they were
trying to make him sort of like

795
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,480
an astronaut because those guys,
the astronauts, really smart.

796
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,320
Right, because the especially if
they're a pilot because they

797
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,600
were pilots, you know.
Yeah.

798
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,360
And I and not a Delta Airlines
not.

799
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:14,800
A delta?
More.

800
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,120
Yeah.
More, yeah.

801
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,720
Yeah, they.
Were an astronaut.

802
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:19,800
That's Delta.
Yeah, yeah.

803
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,800
But that's the other thing that
I really, really liked about

804
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,320
this film was their focus on
family.

805
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,760
Because again, yes, you could
have brought them in.

806
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,240
Oh yeah, that's my
brother-in-law.

807
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:32,800
That's my best friend or
whatever.

808
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,360
But it's almost like those two
things were afterthoughts

809
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,000
because, yes, he picked the
smartest people and they just

810
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,560
happened to be like, Reed just
happens to surround himself with

811
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,360
with smart people and he married
into him and he has one for the

812
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,640
best friend.
But I liked the way that they

813
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,120
told that story because it was
like, you know, you see the

814
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,200
really warm relationship between
Sue and Johnny and even the kind

815
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,520
of teasing relationship with
Johnny and Reed because, yeah,

816
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,280
Reed is the the more serious of
the group.

817
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,280
You know, he's the one that's
always thinking about the, the,

818
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,400
the possibilities and all of
this stuff.

819
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,200
And, you know, he's the one that
worries the most because, again,

820
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,600
he's the smartest one in the
room.

821
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,360
So he probably worries about
things most people don't even

822
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,240
think about, you know, because
he knows that those

823
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:31,280
possibilities exist.
But even with that, you see how

824
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,920
important Sue is to him.
You see how important the baby

825
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,440
is to him.
And you know, Ben and and Johnny

826
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:44,160
and it takes all of that as far
as that family dynamic and, and

827
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,040
how close they are to each
other, how well they know each

828
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,120
other in the end to, to do what
it is that they do.

829
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,960
And I, I like seeing that
because we, I mean, we get that

830
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,400
with you do get that with The
Avengers and all, some of the

831
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,800
other, you know, characters that
we've seen.

832
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:09,920
But aside from Wanda and Pietro,
I don't think we've really seen

833
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,000
family members in the same
group, Wanda and Pietro and then

834
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,840
maybe later on Natasha and
Yelena.

835
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,000
But other than that, we don't
really.

836
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,800
See.
Yeah, Black Panther.

837
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:25,880
Yeah, Black Panther, Monica
Rambo and her mom.

838
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,520
But but you can't count that
one.

839
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,760
They aren't they they really not
the guest because.

840
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,440
It's because it's different
generations, like Monica was a

841
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:40,760
hero and then she died and then
or no, excuse me, Maria, Maria

842
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,640
was, you know, she was the
firefighter, pilot, whatever.

843
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,320
She died and then Monica became
who she was.

844
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,880
But you don't.
It's almost rare that you see

845
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,600
them side by side.
And technically speaking, surely

846
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,360
I wasn't.
I didn't consider her a

847
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,120
superhero until she donned a
Black Panther suit.

848
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,120
She was, she was another smart
scientist, you know what I'm

849
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,960
saying?
But she wasn't, she didn't have

850
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,880
superpowers, she didn't have
special abilities.

851
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,040
She was just smart as hell and
could really, you know, fix some

852
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,080
some amazing armor and some
amazing weapons.

853
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,640
But I'm talking about as far as
heroes, you know what I'm

854
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,160
saying?
But no.

855
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,800
Because I will consider that to
be a hero.

856
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,480
She helped the group.
Well, superheroes, that's what I

857
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,040
meant to say.
Superheroes.

858
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,080
Yes, she but.
Yeah, but I understand what

859
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,880
you're saying.
But it was a high emphasis on

860
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,320
family.
And I think I I did like that

861
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,960
because they had great chemistry
as a family.

862
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:43,040
Yeah, and that even that even is
off screen because I've watched,

863
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,160
I've probably watched every
press junkie interview that they

864
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,280
have done.
They have amazing chemistry with

865
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:55,040
each other and you can tell that
they genuinely care about each

866
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,480
other just in the way the way
that they react, interact with

867
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,240
each other, but also in their
body language with each other.

868
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,560
And I think that came across a
lot on screen.

869
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,080
Like you could see these are
people who really would fight

870
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,560
for each other and die for each
other.

871
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,560
Right.
Or make fun of each other and

872
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,720
laugh because there's one
interview where and I'm not

873
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:17,240
going to say his real name
because I'm end up calling him

874
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:21,840
Eddie.
But Joseph, yeah, Joseph had I

875
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,200
don't know what the interviewer
had asked a question and then he

876
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:31,320
turned and he fade a face which
calls being to like just die

877
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,120
laughing while D.
Vanessa.

878
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,480
Was talking like, what's going
on?

879
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,200
He was like, oh, he making faces
get he's like, it stopped me,

880
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,160
but it was funny.
Because I made the face 5

881
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,400
minutes ago and he's still
laughing.

882
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,560
Still laughing, but he still
turned again at him.

883
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,400
He's still you know continue
laughing so you can tell that

884
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:56,400
they had them relationship.
As far as the third act goes,

885
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:02,920
Anthony, I'm going to say my
favorite Part 1 of the things

886
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,680
that I did not expect.
And again, going back to what I

887
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,160
know of Fantastic Four, I didn't
know until we had like just

888
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,720
conversations about how powerful
Sue actually is.

889
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,680
And I love the fact that they
kind of showed that, especially

890
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,440
towards the end, like she didn't
have to depend on anybody else.

891
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,080
Like she was strong in her own
right.

892
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,920
You know, she was holding off
galaxies.

893
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,720
And I love the, the, the other
thing I really loved about it is

894
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,760
the focus that they had on
motherhood and how powerful that

895
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,040
just that alone is.
Because really, if you think

896
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,920
about it, in the NCU, the only
other example we have of

897
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,840
motherhood is Wanda.
And yes, Wanda is strong.

898
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,640
She cares about her kids in a in
a totally different way.

899
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,000
But going back to our
conversations about whether or

900
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,160
not people actually watch the
Disney Plus streaming shows and

901
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,600
the MCU, if you didn't watch
watch one Division, you would

902
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,800
have no connection to her
journey as a mother.

903
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,040
So I, I was thinking about that
to that was like multiverse of

904
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,680
madness probably was weird for
some people if they didn't watch

905
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,920
Wanda vision because they're
like, OK, where do these two

906
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,000
kids come from?
And why is she, you know what

907
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,200
I'm saying?
Oh, you, you get that one

908
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,960
version of of mother who would
wander and we saw that version

909
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,120
quickly went toxic because she
lost her children.

910
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,960
Man, she kind of gave up the
good parts of her trying to get

911
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,280
them back.
On the other hand, with Sue

912
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:44,880
Storm or Sue Richards, we see
motherhood being shed in a very

913
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,000
different light, very positive
light.

914
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,920
You see her being very
protective.

915
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,000
No, I'm not giving up my child
for y'all, but that doesn't mean

916
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,960
that I don't love you guys and
I'm not going to fight for you.

917
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,680
I'm just not about to give up
this.

918
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,840
Especially someone who has been
trying for three years to have a

919
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,440
child and you just want her to
give.

920
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,080
Excuse me?
No, absolutely not.

921
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,600
But you see her power in that
and how she uses that to kind of

922
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,840
sway the other people.
And then towards the end, when

923
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:22,160
Galactus has the baby, she gives
her all literally so that she

924
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,920
can fight this thing off, defeat
it and save her child.

925
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,920
I love that about this movie
because you don't really get to

926
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:36,760
see motherhood served up as
heroism very much a superhero

927
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,240
movies.
So I loved it.

928
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:44,720
Like I did not think I I did not
know going into this movie that

929
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,160
she was going to become my
favorite character because of

930
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,360
course, yeah, I'm on I'm on team
Pedro.

931
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,560
I'm I'm like, OK, re riches,
whatever.

932
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,440
Like I'm kind of on the on the
character, but you know, it's

933
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,240
it's Pedro.
No Vanessa Kirby, like literally

934
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:03,120
from the time she got on the
screen and I've not seen her in

935
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,880
anything else.
I know she was in The Crown but

936
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,840
I haven't watched the Crown.
She.

937
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,360
Was in Hopsin too.
She was in what?

938
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,400
The fantastic The Fast and
Furious Hopsin Shaw Movie.

939
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,760
Yeah, she was in Mission
Impossible.

940
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,720
OK, but yeah, she was, she's
Shaw's sister.

941
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,520
And I was like, OK, that's why I
know her from.

942
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:28,040
But in this movie, from the
moment she got on the screen,

943
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,960
just the way that the way she
carried herself, the way she was

944
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,520
loyal to her husband and to her
family and the way that she the

945
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,920
way that they just kind of
portrayed her character.

946
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,080
I really respected her character
and like, she became one of my

947
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,560
favorite characters.
And then also Vanessa Kirby is

948
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,520
so fucking easy on the eyes.
I was like, I did not know this

949
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,680
woman was so gorgeous.
What?

950
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:58,480
She's gorgeous.
And, you know, just, yeah, the

951
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,320
whole thing about her as
motherhood personified as a

952
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,400
superhero, that's not something
I'm used to seeing.

953
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,280
And it was just, for me, it was
so refreshing.

954
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,520
And then also, it was very
inspiring because she literally

955
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,200
showed, yeah, I can do all these
things at once.

956
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,320
I can be a mother and be
protective of him.

957
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,600
And I can still go out and save
the world and, and keep my

958
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:27,120
morals and keep my, you know,
keep everything that's me.

959
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,880
Me.
I don't have to compromise

960
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,640
myself in order to be these two,
you know, these two separate

961
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,480
means.
I love seeing that.

962
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,640
Yeah.
I really love the way that they

963
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,640
told that in in that story.
And I totally agree because I

964
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,520
didn't realize how powerful she
was because it's kind of it's

965
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,160
somewhat it is kind of
downplayed because I'm not comic

966
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,200
book familiar.
So it is kind of downplayed in

967
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,600
the other movies how powerful
she is.

968
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,720
It's mentioned like in the other
movies she mentioned, like with

969
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,680
Victor Doom, she mentioned she
can put like a air bubble in his

970
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,560
head and kill him, but she
didn't do it.

971
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:10,480
But in here you really knew how
powerful she was and also how

972
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,240
strong she was.
And she did not play because she

973
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:15,320
was on that show.
Don't say killer.

974
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,200
Like, hold on a second, we ain't
talking.

975
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,440
She had Johnny Killer.
He was like, what?

976
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,480
She was.
Excuse me?

977
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,440
She's trying to get your nephew
killed.

978
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,440
Killer we don't have we don't
have time for this.

979
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,120
Right.
She was like, we're not, we're

980
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,120
not playing these games, no.
So.

981
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,400
And and she's having full
contractions and she can still

982
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,760
make the ship invisible, right?
Right.

983
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,760
In full contraction, I'll be
like.

984
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,480
Full contraction.
She's the she's the bad ass bad.

985
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,040
Yeah, she's the top of my list.
Second is the quiet place when

986
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,960
you're trying to have a baby and
not make a sound and she now Sue

987
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,000
is at the top.
Yeah.

988
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:00,600
Yeah, that concentration.
Interesting that's to the fandom

989
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,320
wanted to play her in the first
place.

990
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:04,560
Who?
Emily Blunt.

991
00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:07,320
Oh, OK.
Yeah.

992
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,520
So yeah.
So yeah, definitely.

993
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,800
Yeah, but no, I she.
Was and she held her own like it

994
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,000
wasn't.
And I know I'm not in

995
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,600
comparison, but if I only have
to compare the movies, she held

996
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,880
her own.
It's not like it's Reed and

997
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,960
everyone rotates around Reed
like she has her own right on

998
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,160
her own.
She stands her own, he pretty

999
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:34,200
much doing his mental math and
mental things and she's like

1000
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,200
going out and really working
with the community and solving

1001
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:41,280
real world problems here.
I think they did a good job with

1002
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,640
all of them with.
That yeah, yeah, they did.

1003
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,560
They were.
All sort of their own.

1004
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,080
Yeah, people and stuff and then.
Even at the end when, when they

1005
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,120
were doing the fighting, you
know, Rita's so worried about

1006
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,480
her and she was like, excuse me,
I need you to go concentrate.

1007
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,440
Go do this.
Go do that like.

1008
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,280
I got.
This when he lost his focus, she

1009
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,960
stepped in and she became the
leader, she delegates.

1010
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,840
She was like, OK, look, we don't
have time for this.

1011
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,400
If I die, you need to take care
of you need to make sure you

1012
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,480
save our son, you know, no
hesitation, no nothing.

1013
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:20,080
And I, I think that was
something that was that that we

1014
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,840
needed to see that, you know,
she didn't have to depend on the

1015
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,600
other people to come in and save
her.

1016
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,680
You know, even though, yes, she
was, she was being, well, he was

1017
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,960
the one that was actually being
stretched, but she was being

1018
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,040
stretched to her limits.
And she was still like, don't

1019
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,000
help me, go do this, Go do that.
You go here, you go there.

1020
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,760
I got this.
And she really did.

1021
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,360
Galactus is looking at her like,
what the fuck is this?

1022
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,800
What?
How are you doing this and

1023
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,480
defeating me, 'cause 'cause she
she powerful?

1024
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,480
Yeah.
You know, and, and she didn't

1025
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,440
need anybody to help her.
She took care of Galactus.

1026
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,760
You know, all she needed was
somebody to go and tip him right

1027
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,360
across the border, OK?
Well, Reed was doing a pretty

1028
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,600
good job until he got caught.
Yeah, I mean, they all were.

1029
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,760
But I mean, again, like you
said, they did a very good job

1030
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,200
of showcasing all of them that
no, we didn't necessarily need

1031
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,840
anybody else to help us do what
we were doing, but they also did

1032
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,200
a good job of showing, OK,
teamwork is like literally

1033
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,960
teamwork is dreamwork.
So so Ben.

1034
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,160
Ben got pimp slapped in the
space.

1035
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,200
Yeah, poor Ben.
You're doing all like like that

1036
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,800
hard, that hard select type beer
that he.

1037
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,200
Had I love it?
I did.

1038
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,240
You know what else I love?
I just love how he how he was

1039
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:56,680
always like Franklin.
He always had Franklin.

1040
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:04,280
So it's always yeah, he did.
He was just so cute.

1041
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,120
Yeah, because even when Johnny
was getting ready, because I was

1042
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,400
kind of like you, Mike, I was
like, we are not about to lose

1043
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,040
all these people.
First of all, you stretch and

1044
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,560
read to the point where he looks
like Swiss cheese.

1045
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,440
What?
Stop.

1046
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,600
Because that hurts.
Like I'm sitting in my my seat

1047
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,600
just like, oh, no, that hurts.
And then when Johnny was getting

1048
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,240
ready to do what he was going to
do, he was like, tell Franklin

1049
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,000
his uncle Johnny loves.
Excuse me, Sir.

1050
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,240
I'm not about to watch you die
in something else.

1051
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,440
Like I don't watch you die in
Stranger Things.

1052
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,760
I don't watch you die in
Gladiator 2.

1053
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,640
No, we're not doing.
It all they had to do was give

1054
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,080
him a get, give him a guitar
solo when he was when he was

1055
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,360
flying towards.
We're not doing.

1056
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,720
Like a guitar solo from Puppet
Master of Puppets that'd.

1057
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,240
Be awesome.
But then with Sue at the end

1058
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:58,160
like I was sitting there when
she wasn't moving and and and

1059
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,560
Reed is over her crying now I'm
sitting in the theater.

1060
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,240
I got tears coming down my eyes
too.

1061
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,440
But I'm like but I know she's
not dead because she was

1062
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:11,200
announced for doomsday so I know
she's not dead but still I was

1063
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,400
like OK so is it that she dies
here and they bring her back in

1064
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,440
doomsday?
And then when Franklin was

1065
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,440
sitting there fighting like
basically give me my Mama.

1066
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,000
I said oh he bout to bring her
back to life.

1067
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,760
Yeah.
He bout to do this when he sat

1068
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,760
down when they sat him on her
chest.

1069
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,200
And he's just looking at her.
I said, yeah, he about to bring

1070
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,680
her back to life.
They really about to see how how

1071
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,760
special this this little boy is.
But then you had to then realize

1072
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,480
what was going through her head
and she's coming too 'cause then

1073
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,360
you realize, oh shit, this
motherfucker's powerful.

1074
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,000
That and that's what she said
when she woke up, she was like,

1075
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,800
she was like he's he's it.
It is not he.

1076
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,200
He's more than us.
He's Yeah, you've.

1077
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,560
Been you've been going around
trying to tell Reid he fine, he

1078
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,280
good.
You know, I love that scene when

1079
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,480
she she concentrated where you
could just see the baby.

1080
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,400
He good.
He's not he's like normal.

1081
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:06,480
No, he's.
Not.

1082
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,200
No, he's not.
No, he's not.

1083
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,640
And I and I love the fact that
that Reid was like, you know,

1084
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,800
this whole time I've been trying
to figure out what you are and

1085
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,440
whether you have powers.
You know what?

1086
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,520
I'm going to stop looking.
I'm just going to let you be who

1087
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,760
you going to be.
And you're going to tell me who

1088
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,760
you are when you're ready to
tell me what you are.

1089
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,000
Because obviously that little
boy was like, I'm not going to

1090
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:36,240
show you nothing yet.
I'm about to hide my powers.

1091
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:42,560
Because also, if he shows his
powers, then not just to his

1092
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,520
parents, other people are going
to see, you know what?

1093
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,440
Other, you know what happens?
Somebody's going to come like a

1094
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,480
Galactus and be like, oh, this,
this baby's powerful.

1095
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,560
Yeah, I want him.
We'll have some.

1096
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,040
Cat.
Franklin was like, look, I like

1097
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,120
my crib, I like my car seat, I
like my naps.

1098
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,480
Leave me alone.
I'm a normal baby.

1099
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,200
You know, or like a certain
Latverian dictator in the green

1100
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:09,080
Greek that likes to wear green
cloaks would just stop by, you

1101
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,840
know, randomly.
That was interesting, but.

1102
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:21,480
Oh, before I forget, shout out
to Paul Hauser AKA MO Man, one

1103
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:27,680
of the one of the best B or C
villain cameos in the MCU.

1104
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,800
I.
Was I was looking at this, I was

1105
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:37,560
where he showed up on the screen
and the fact that they made not

1106
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:42,120
in the movie, but there was a
there was a interview that Pedro

1107
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:46,640
and Vanessa were doing and they
were comparing themselves to the

1108
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,640
Incredibles.
And literally when MO man walked

1109
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,840
up on I was like, am I watching
the incredibles?

1110
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,760
What the hell?
Because I again, not not comic

1111
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,240
book familiar.
I didn't know about this

1112
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:04,240
character, but he was so funny
to me just in the way that he

1113
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,120
reacted and man, he was like
y'all like none of y'all

1114
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,080
motherfuckers.
But I talked to Sue like.

1115
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,080
Like.
I love how I love how he was.

1116
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,720
He was telling all all the, all
the people going down into into

1117
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,400
his into his space.
He was like.

1118
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,160
Subterranean.
Subterranean.

1119
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,440
He was like, take off your
shoes, right?

1120
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,960
Like, excuse me, sorry, isn't
your ground made of dirt?

1121
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,560
It's hilarious, but it was also
so funny because when they were

1122
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,840
coming down there, he was acting
like a tour guide.

1123
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:38,560
Welcome to Subterranean.
Welcome to the I was.

1124
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,000
Like, great.
Yeah, I I really like that part

1125
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:41,720
of the movie.
He was.

1126
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,120
He was fine.
Yeah, but I was sitting here

1127
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:50,160
like, how in the world do you
have a whole like how do you

1128
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,680
build something like
subterranean and and nobody

1129
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,840
really notices up until you
start doing some shit because

1130
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,960
that was underground.
This time, nobody noticed.

1131
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,360
Yeah.
Nobody's paying attention to

1132
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,000
Underground.
Yeah.

1133
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,160
But you got to dig underground.
You get like he's.

1134
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,920
A mold man, he's a mold man.
So if.

1135
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,040
He's a mold man.
I I guess.

1136
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,520
You're looking.
Elaborate about this.

1137
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,640
He's an old man, he lives
underground.

1138
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,880
He builds an underground land,
let's let him go.

1139
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,680
Then he comes up and tries to
take over the above land and

1140
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,840
tries to and drops the Pan Am
center.

1141
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,880
Holy shit.
Yes.

1142
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,680
Yeah, yeah.
They needed, they needed the

1143
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,440
rooms.
Yeah, he had to have.

1144
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,200
It but yeah, I like I said, I I
really felt like this was a fun

1145
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,560
movie.
It had it serious moments, but I

1146
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:48,000
don't think it got overly
serious, at least not for me.

1147
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:53,560
I felt like it was I felt like
it had a good pace to it even in

1148
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,640
the beginning.
Yes, like I said, it was slow,

1149
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,760
but like you said, Anthony, it
was exposition.

1150
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,440
Even though you didn't give us
the the origin origin story, you

1151
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:07,200
were giving us a chance to learn
who this family is and and

1152
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:11,320
giving us a chance to connect
with them so that when all this

1153
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:15,160
stuff started happening, you
know, we would feel it.

1154
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,680
We would be like, oh, no, you're
not about to take this baby.

1155
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,320
Oh no, you're not about to.
Like we were on their side.

1156
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,040
And I think if they had done it
a little bit differently, I

1157
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:28,320
don't know, you know, I don't
know if I think if they had, if

1158
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,520
they had included the origin
story, then it the movie would

1159
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,120
have felt a little too long.
I feel like it was kind of just

1160
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,600
right.
It didn't, it didn't drag

1161
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,080
really, you know, it, it, it
just slow and dragging are two

1162
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,320
different things.
When when you're slow, because

1163
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,880
you're telling the story, you're
giving us the background.

1164
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,920
You're you're giving us the
exposition.

1165
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,080
I don't think it was, I don't
think it was bad.

1166
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,400
You know, I, I enjoyed it.
I had, I had a lot of fun with

1167
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,480
this movie.
We we got to go see it with the

1168
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,560
MCUATL group again.
Shout out to them because they

1169
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,160
have some of the best viewing
parties.

1170
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,160
We had a lot of fun, had a lot
of cosplayers, a lot of

1171
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,600
cosplayers.
I think I've been going to some

1172
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,120
of their screenings now for over
a year consistently.

1173
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,880
I think Fantastic Four was the
one I've I've seen the most

1174
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,600
cosplay and it was the the
cosplay was amazing.

1175
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:31,640
You had all, you have Fantastic
Four, everything all around.

1176
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,560
Like one girl was in there.
She had on all silver

1177
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:39,000
everything, even silver boots.
I was like, you know what, y'all

1178
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,400
did this, y'all came with your A
game.

1179
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:47,040
It was so much fun.
So yeah, I enjoyed it.

1180
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,720
And then, you know, Mike kind of
touched upon this the, the post

1181
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,560
credits.
Well, the first post credits

1182
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,600
scene, you know, you, you have
I, I think they said it was like

1183
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,720
4 years later, three years.
Later.

1184
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,400
Four years later and Sue was
sitting there reading a kid book

1185
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,800
to a now 4 year old Franklin and
he wants to read another book.

1186
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,560
She goes to the kitchen to grab
him a book.

1187
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,280
What was the book that she
started to grab that she was

1188
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,960
like, oh, this is his favorite
but we're going to do something

1189
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,120
lighter.
It was like.

1190
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:18,760
I can't remember.
What it was I?

1191
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,640
Think it was It was Darwin's
natural selection.

1192
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,680
Is is that what it was?
OK, so that apparently is

1193
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,120
Franklin's favorite book.
But she was like, no, we're

1194
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,320
going to do something like she
picked a kids book.

1195
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,440
And she goes back into the
living room and she feels

1196
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:39,200
something off and she turns and
who is standing there in front

1197
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,440
of Franklin?
But Doctor Doom?

1198
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,640
I was like, OK, so they're
leading us into Avengers

1199
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,520
Doomsday.
OK.

1200
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,200
I hear that Reed Richards is
supposed to be one of the leads

1201
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,520
in that particular movie.
I don't know how.

1202
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,600
I don't know how true that is
because there's been a lot of

1203
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,600
rumors, a lot of things coming
out and I really have been

1204
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,400
trying to stay away from them
because I feel like some of

1205
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:09,280
these some of these fan sites
are giving too much information.

1206
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,680
Like I want to be surprised by
some stuff when I go see this

1207
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,640
movie, right?
I don't need to know every

1208
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,360
casting announcement, especially
if the studios aren't making the

1209
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,960
casting announcement.
I don't want to know what you

1210
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,640
found out because you got a long
lens camera and you standing off

1211
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,760
in the bushes at at the the
filming location trying to take

1212
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:29,360
snip.
I don't.

1213
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,120
I don't need more information.
Or you got Alan Cumming running

1214
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:38,400
his mouth off like Mark Ruffalo.
What did Alan Cummings say?

1215
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,720
Oh well, no, I'm not going to.
Tell you, oh, OK, OK.

1216
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,160
But but he he did get a little
bit of trouble because he was

1217
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,480
talking about filming a fight
scene with somebody.

1218
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,520
It was Night Prowler and he was
like, oh, what?

1219
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,400
Wait, what?
So, oh, OK.

1220
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,160
However, he just mentioned it in
passing.

1221
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,080
Like he wasn't really talking
about the movie.

1222
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,000
He just said, Oh yeah, I was
fighting such and such as Night

1223
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,080
Prowler and every people picked
it up.

1224
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,640
But here's the thing, you have
to go with that.

1225
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,320
Even when you get casting, even
though they say they're in the

1226
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,880
movie, we don't know.
As long as no one says the

1227
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:19,680
extent because literally with
that movie's Doom could be going

1228
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,320
to different Earths and just
encounter those people.

1229
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,760
He maybe go to another Earth and
Nightcrawler is fighting.

1230
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,440
We don't know the extent.
That's how I see things.

1231
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,800
Like just now.
If I see things about Eddie

1232
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,400
being a stranger thing, it could
be a flashback.

1233
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,800
I don't know until I watch it
and I'm not going to find out

1234
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,160
why he's in the movie.
I didn't say he was in the

1235
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,080
movie, people.
I just said if they said Eddie

1236
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,800
was in the movie, it could be a
flashback or he really could

1237
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,760
have come back.
We don't know.

1238
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:55,120
So somehow this family has to
get to what earth, Earth which

1239
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:59,040
we saw.
So in our mind we can piece that

1240
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,200
together.
Now it's going to fall.

1241
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,280
He.
Starts the movie talking about

1242
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,040
the existence the formula shows
we have to get to the

1243
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:07,640
multiverse.
Right.

1244
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,240
Yeah, he does.
So then we know they will end up

1245
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,640
traveling the multiverse, but
then it'll be time too because

1246
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,720
the time difference.
Not, no, not necessarily.

1247
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,560
Oh, because we're on a different
time than that.

1248
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,920
Yeah.
OK, so we know for sure that's

1249
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,120
going to happen.
Yeah.

1250
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:28,160
But also, did we know for sure?
But also, too, I've heard rumors

1251
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,680
that, you know, I I don't know,
but.

1252
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,720
But my point is, I don't want to
know everything about the movie,

1253
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,960
especially since they're still
filming.

1254
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,880
Stop.
Given everything, everything.

1255
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,479
Like some of us want to go into
the movie and be genuinely

1256
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:47,520
surprised.
Just like, yeah, just like the

1257
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,359
way we were surprised when we
went to Multiverse and Madness

1258
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:53,680
and Patrick Stewart showed up.
Or John Krasinski, because

1259
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,960
everybody had been fan casting
him for so long.

1260
01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:00,399
I I didn't know about it.
I was excited when I saw it.

1261
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:03,160
That's the feeling I want when I
go in the movie theater.

1262
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,840
I don't want to know every.
Single.

1263
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,279
Oh, how Chris Evans was denying
that he was in their pullover

1264
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:12,040
ring.
Oh yeah, and he popped.

1265
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,520
And then he popped up as Johnny
Storm.

1266
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:15,359
Yeah, right.
So.

1267
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,319
Yeah, I don't want to know all
this stuff, you know, just like

1268
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,720
I, I, I did.
When they vanished at the end of

1269
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,319
the movie, we didn't know they
were going to vanish at the end

1270
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,399
of Avengers.
I can't think.

1271
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:30,040
Of the name of the movie
Infinity War.

1272
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,920
Infinity War, Yeah.
I didn't know that was going to

1273
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,359
happen.
Did you know that was going to

1274
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:36,000
happen?
Yeah, that was.

1275
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,359
Probably the way to end the
movie.

1276
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,960
The comics, but yeah, so I just
want to be surprised.

1277
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,120
I have to think about that.
Stop, stop.

1278
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,120
I was surprised.
I've seen some casting rumors

1279
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,160
like, Oh well, this person
wasn't announced, but this

1280
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,000
person has been also.
I don't want to know.

1281
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,640
I want to be surprised.
I want to be surprised.

1282
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,800
Especially if it's supposed to
be a surprise.

1283
01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:58,480
Like spider man.
They were supposed to be a

1284
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:00,320
surprise.
They were denying they were in

1285
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:01,960
the team.
But that was a surprise.

1286
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,560
Except except look, Andrew
Garfield told Charlie Cox or

1287
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,480
Charlie Cox told Andrew Garfield
because they I think they were

1288
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:14,680
in the same city filming and
Charlie was like, are you here

1289
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,720
filming such and such?
He was like, what do you mean?

1290
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,080
No, I'm not.
He was like, well, I'm here

1291
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:19,240
filming such and such.
What?

1292
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,960
That's how they knew.
But look, look, some stuff for

1293
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,160
us to be surprised.
On.

1294
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,360
Yeah.
And I thought the other, the

1295
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,440
other end credits scene was cute
because it was like the old

1296
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,240
Fantastic Four cartoon.
And I was like, oh, I do

1297
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:39,760
remember a little bit of that or
something like that.

1298
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:44,080
So yeah, don't.
I do.

1299
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:50,040
It I don't remember if it was
like a a cartoon or if it it was

1300
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,120
something maybe I saw something
on YouTube that was similar to

1301
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:57,200
that, but I was like that looks.
Yeah, I can.

1302
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:01,520
I can say that I didn't.
I knew I had read a few

1303
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,520
Fantastic Four comic books, but
I didn't get into it until she

1304
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,360
helped joined and Black Panther
was a member for a while.

1305
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,000
I I read those those those were
kind of kind of cool.

1306
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,200
OK, OK.
But what now?

1307
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,280
Mike drifted off.
Mike.

1308
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,200
Wait, what are?
You talking about the

1309
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,480
Illuminati?
Talk about what?

1310
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,760
Never mind, I thought, we can we
talk.

1311
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,280
We talk about the Illuminati for
a second, then it's like.

1312
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,440
Oh no, no, no, no.
I don't see how I didn't pay

1313
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:37,000
attention to.
I didn't pay attention to

1314
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:42,440
Fantastic Four till She Hulk was
a member and Black Panther was.

1315
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,680
Yeah, Spider Man was a member
for a second Spider Man 2.

1316
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,720
Yeah, yeah, great.
It got interesting when other

1317
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:53,760
people were members of it, OK.
Yeah, and Black Black Panther

1318
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,160
and Sue Storm.
Kinda, No.

1319
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,120
We.
Don't talk about that.

1320
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:00,800
What?
You don't talk about that.

1321
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,720
Yeah, see, yeah, Sue, Sue, this
could be interesting because of

1322
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:10,040
a certain person that's in
doomsday that they're bringing

1323
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,840
back.
And I'm like, oh, because in the

1324
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,920
in the comments is see, this is
like, you know how back in the

1325
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,800
day, like people just did
whatever they want.

1326
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:24,960
Like Sue was like they did.
They made Sue look bad in a

1327
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,440
couple of instances.
Oh, OK.

1328
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,640
In the in the comics, so they'll
be interested to see how they

1329
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:37,000
handled that in Doomsday,
because they put one of her ex

1330
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,000
always said they put what they
put one one person that was

1331
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,240
linked with her in they said
that that person is going to be

1332
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,040
in Doomsday.
So OK.

1333
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,000
I know what they won't do.
They won't have Franklin

1334
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,080
impregnate her.
I know they won't do that

1335
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:52,680
storyline.
Thank God.

1336
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,160
OK, you know what?
That's too much for me.

1337
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:57,480
Yeah, they, they, they just
they.

1338
01:12:57,480 --> 01:13:00,520
There's two storms at foot.
Gets a lot of weird shit

1339
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,760
happening to her.
That's that's that's too Game of

1340
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:04,400
Thrones.
For.

1341
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,720
Me, right.
That's just horrible right

1342
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:07,800
there.
I didn't know.

1343
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,800
I don't want to know.
Yeah.

1344
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,000
I don't.
Not the way you feel, but yeah.

1345
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,400
No, he could probably just do it
with his mind, but I still don't

1346
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,480
like that.
What was the thing that you

1347
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:24,840
didn't like about the movie?
Or was there anything that you

1348
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,600
like?
Absolutely didn't like?

1349
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,400
Like you were I I mean, Mike, I
know you mentioned the whole

1350
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:35,240
romance thing, which if yeah, in
in some ways I can get that

1351
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,160
because I feel like it kind of
took away from the main story.

1352
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,760
But like I said, again, I think
that was put in there to show

1353
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,840
Ben's humanity.
Like, OK, yeah, he looks like

1354
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,800
this on the outside, but he's
still a person.

1355
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,520
He's still a human.
He's still worthy of, you know,

1356
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,640
giving and really receiving
love.

1357
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,040
So I think that's what the
purpose of that was, so.

1358
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:59,960
Now, now if if we if we really
want to get into the nitty

1359
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:02,600
gritty of it.
I don't appreciate the fact that

1360
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:08,000
they didn't have Alicia Masters,
which, you know, giving him a

1361
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:13,320
love interest and not be her you
and you make up a character that

1362
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,760
to me, I, I had a problem with
that, but I didn't say anything.

1363
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,840
I kind of left them alone
because I'm sure they have their

1364
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:25,320
reasons for it, but that really
bothered me a lot.

1365
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,280
Because she was the character
that Kerry Washington played.

1366
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:29,480
Yeah, right.
Yeah.

1367
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,400
Was she also African American in
the comics?

1368
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:35,040
Yes.
Oh, OK, so I OK.

1369
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,040
So you see where I'm coming, You
see so I didn't we we just going

1370
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,200
to let.
But you.

1371
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,560
Know I would let it slide, but
it was very difficult when you

1372
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,440
only have one other person of
colour really in the movie and

1373
01:14:48,440 --> 01:14:49,880
she wasn't even in there that
much.

1374
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,800
But I don't want to make this
about that.

1375
01:14:54,400 --> 01:15:00,400
We probably should because it it
it you asked what I didn't like

1376
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,680
about it.
That was a thing I really

1377
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:07,000
dislike, that I really dislike.
That the only thing I will say

1378
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:11,000
about that is if they decide, I
don't know if they have a, if

1379
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:15,320
they have plans to do a second
film in Fantastic Four.

1380
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,880
I know that.
It makes time to see them.

1381
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:22,360
Will be doomsday, but if they do
do a second Fantastic Four

1382
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,680
movie, it could be possible they
will bring her in in that one

1383
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,880
because maybe this person, this
flirtation was just a stepping

1384
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,720
stone for Ben, maybe something
to make him see.

1385
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,200
Oh, OK, you know what, maybe I
am still, you know, people are

1386
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,120
still attracted to me.
Maybe that's all that is, you

1387
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:42,360
know, because you you kind of
don't want to look at the person

1388
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,280
be like, OK, the first person
who shows interest in in him.

1389
01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:47,200
That's the only person he's
going to be with.

1390
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:51,200
OK show that there's some some
some other interests up to to

1391
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,280
get him in that mindset.
I'm determined of love too.

1392
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:58,240
And then maybe in in the second
one or maybe even in Doomsday it

1393
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:02,880
depending on how big a part
Fantastic Four has in the movie.

1394
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,680
Maybe they will bring her into
it.

1395
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,080
That that is my hope.
I'm going.

1396
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,760
To before we get before we get
too far, Michelle points out

1397
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,960
that in the comic book she was
white, but I thought it was a

1398
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,680
bold choice to make her black
because her color isn't really

1399
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,120
pertinent.
Pertinent to what?

1400
01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:23,920
What she is.
OK.

1401
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,880
Does that make sense?
But she's very important in his

1402
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,360
life.
She's very important in black.

1403
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,480
I I just looked that up like
she's one of the main, his main,

1404
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:34,320
his main.
But she was sort of like the

1405
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:36,800
she.
Was hard to see.

1406
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,440
Huh.
She was his Sue Storm.

1407
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:45,120
Yeah, but she was also the
person that accepted him for who

1408
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,000
he was.
Oh, and they took that away

1409
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,840
'cause they gave it to another
woman.

1410
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,520
Right.
Because, you know, for the most

1411
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,960
part, he thought of himself as
grotesque.

1412
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,280
He didn't really like that and.
She.

1413
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:03,000
And she saw through through saw
through that airport because

1414
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,560
she's.
Blind so you right though they

1415
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,040
should just kept her character
in there.

1416
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,960
It's a different world.
She can be whoever she needs to,

1417
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,320
but it should be her 'cause
she's the one who shows him

1418
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,560
love.
Yeah, that's the other thing I

1419
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,360
do like about what they did with
Ben in this movie, because even

1420
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,480
though you see like a couple of
moments where he kind of looks

1421
01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:24,800
at, looks at his reflection
wistfully, he's not.

1422
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,640
He doesn't seem as depressed as
like previous versions of the

1423
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,600
character.
He doesn't seem that negative

1424
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,080
about what he is.
It's almost like he's accepted

1425
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,000
what has happened.
But also, again, I mean, this

1426
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,120
film takes place I think three
years after all of that

1427
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,080
happened.
So he's had time to live with

1428
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,000
it.
So he's had time to deal with

1429
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:45,400
it.
Yeah.

1430
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,800
So yeah.
But I also, I also realized that

1431
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,360
him looking in the mirror, you
and you look at some scenes

1432
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:56,720
where he wasn't that way.
He is actually more comfortable

1433
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:02,400
how he is now in this movie then
how he was just regularly

1434
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:03,920
walking around.
You wouldn't say, oh, he's the

1435
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,240
handsome one.
He's like, I'm not.

1436
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:13,480
So he seems more confident now
than he did before the change,

1437
01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:18,080
which is a it's different take.
I think I think it has to do

1438
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:22,720
with do with them because in
other movies we saw them, they

1439
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,960
went through the whole them in
the spaceship going up and

1440
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,760
getting in the storm, coming
back down, recovering, finding

1441
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,000
out they have the powers and
then having to deal with the

1442
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,960
powers.
This is the we're we're seeing

1443
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,960
them now, having already gone
through all that shit.

1444
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:40,000
This is why why again, I like
that they just kind of briefly

1445
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,320
summarized all that shit because
he you, you can tell that he

1446
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:47,600
already, of course, he still has
some some inhibitions because he

1447
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,160
he still feels some kind of way
sometimes because it's the shot

1448
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:56,240
that I love in this movie where
he's he's like walking past ATV

1449
01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:00,600
store and they show an image of
him before they before, before

1450
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,560
the accident.
Then the the TV cuts off.

1451
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,160
You see his reflection and I'm
just like, that's fucking

1452
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,280
beautiful.
And but, but it's like you could

1453
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,280
tell that he that he's fine with
it.

1454
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:14,480
The way he interacts with the
kids when he picks up the

1455
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:17,920
Volkswagen, the way that he
interacts with Herbie.

1456
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,920
We interact with Herbie and with
all the, with everyone else,

1457
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:26,360
like being being there for read
and like helping him talk

1458
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,160
through everything.
And it's just being himself.

1459
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,160
I, I, it shows.
It shows that the shows that

1460
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:36,080
he's had time to deal with
everything that he's had

1461
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,960
everything that's going on and
that he's, he's come to a good,

1462
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:45,800
happy, good, happy mushy medium,
mushy middle to it where he's

1463
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,800
like, not overly OK, I'm really
great or Oh my God, this really

1464
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,600
fucking sucks.
He's just like, OK, I'm just

1465
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,200
it's this is me.
Yeah, this is me.

1466
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,280
Life goes on.
Yeah, right.

1467
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:00,120
Yeah.
But back to the Alicia Masters

1468
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,600
thing.
And I feel like they didn't do

1469
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,280
it because people raise the
question.

1470
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:09,920
Well if you cast her and it's a
white woman then oh y'all had a

1471
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,640
problem with her being black?
So they just avoided the whole

1472
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,720
question by creating a whole new
character to do the same thing

1473
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,520
but.
Brings up even more questions,

1474
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,120
but a different set of
questions.

1475
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,560
Which brings up a different set
of.

1476
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:22,680
Questions.
Yeah.

1477
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,640
Yeah.
Especially that was his main

1478
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,480
person who helped him find
acceptance within himself.

1479
01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:32,080
Yeah.
But like I said, we, we, you

1480
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,880
know that they'll explore.
That Oh yeah, he didn't need it

1481
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,480
here, so.
Yeah, yeah.

1482
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,480
There there's a still invalidate
character.

1483
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:48,280
Well, no, on this earth he runs
into it, but you know, she's not

1484
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,520
needed.
Yeah, OK.

1485
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,720
Michelle, what didn't you like
about the film?

1486
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:59,480
If anything skip me OK?
I'm trying to think.

1487
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,560
OK, Mike, what?
She didn't like the third act

1488
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,920
where they were trying to
teleport the planet and get

1489
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,160
everybody to work together.
I.

1490
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,640
Didn't sound like you.
Yeah, that's you, that's.

1491
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,960
You, Mike, What didn't you like
We.

1492
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:17,440
Knew it wasn't going to work.
Do you know how much of a

1493
01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:19,760
difference to?
Oh my God.

1494
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:21,680
Percent.
We already have this

1495
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,960
conversation like 30 minutes.
Ago.

1496
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,840
I just want to make sure I get
the point across.

1497
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,880
There's not there's nothing
there's nothing I really

1498
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,440
disliked about this movie.
There's certain things that I

1499
01:21:34,440 --> 01:21:36,480
didn't necessarily care for, but
it didn't.

1500
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,040
But it's like like the pacing of
the first act.

1501
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,200
I I thought the pacing of the
first act could have used could

1502
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:47,320
have been better.
I think that there is.

1503
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:52,280
I mean there are certain things
like after, like after the

1504
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:56,440
baby's born.
It just no, there's no, I mean,

1505
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,240
I gotta be honest, they're
they're not really anything that

1506
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,120
that that took away from it for
me.

1507
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,800
Like there, there, there's some
some stuff I wish they wish that

1508
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:08,080
could have been better paced.
I actually like the writing in

1509
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,400
here.
I like, I love the effects.

1510
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,640
So I don't I don't know.
I don't appreciate them playing

1511
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,880
with my emotions, thinking that
they're gonna do that they're

1512
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,040
gonna spaghettify fucking read
riches again.

1513
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,920
But.
Yeah, that was traumatizing.

1514
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,440
In Multiverse of Madness, I
don't even see that ever.

1515
01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:30,440
Again, it was yeah, yeah, I
figured out what I I didn't care

1516
01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:35,600
for, which I don't care for in
other movies, is when you show

1517
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:40,240
people and they're not
important, but lady find out

1518
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,800
they are kind of important to
the to the main characters.

1519
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,960
So they're publicist.
So because at first I'm like,

1520
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,440
oh, something's going to happen
with her because you keep

1521
01:22:50,440 --> 01:22:54,160
showing her, but you just
showing her reaction.

1522
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,560
I don't then.
And you got a great actress.

1523
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,640
So I was like, that's not
needed.

1524
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,600
I don't care for that.
OK.

1525
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,280
And she had maybe like 3 lines
like oh she going to do

1526
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:07,880
something, she going to be
something.

1527
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:12,080
But she's just decide like oh,
when they're going to a mission,

1528
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,880
let's show her.
When they come home, let's just

1529
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:19,400
show her reaction.
Yeah, I think she was kind of, I

1530
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,440
feel like she was there to kind
of bridge be the bridge between

1531
01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:25,480
them and the and the regular
people.

1532
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,320
I get that, but then have her do
more to show that she's the

1533
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:30,640
bridge between the regular
people.

1534
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,240
Yeah, I got you.
I got you.

1535
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,760
Look up.
She was a publicist.

1536
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,720
We had, yeah, you have to look
it up to be like, oh, she's

1537
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,600
important in there.
You know, she's a lot.

1538
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,280
Share public relations.
Yeah, shout out to her because

1539
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:48,040
she she was in Ted Lasso.
Oh yeah, as a therapy lasso.

1540
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,600
As the sports psychologist in
the second season, she was

1541
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,560
awesome.
Yeah, so for so for me, she's

1542
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,560
important 'cause that's my show.
But.

1543
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:00,800
Yeah, Tell Lasso is the show.
I love that show.

1544
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:07,200
Yeah.
OK, well so the next time we

1545
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:11,040
will see the Fantastic Four will
be in Avengers Doomsday, which

1546
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:15,000
again I believe is slated for
2026 release.

1547
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,200
Yes, ma'am.
Do we say what's your favorite

1548
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,160
part, Your absolute favorite
part of the whole movie?

1549
01:24:23,480 --> 01:24:25,160
Oh no, we didn't.
OK, so let's go there.

1550
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:26,840
I'm sorry to interrupt.
What's your I don't have?

1551
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,040
No, I don't have one right now.
What's your favorite part of the

1552
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:30,440
movie?
You, you.

1553
01:24:30,440 --> 01:24:32,800
You stopped us from talking to
get to get to the favorite part.

1554
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:33,720
You.
Ain't got 1 yet.

1555
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,680
Ain't got one she's.
Thinking.

1556
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:37,720
She's thinking, yeah, but I
this.

1557
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:42,840
May seem this may seem small
like a little small thing, but I

1558
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:49,320
love the way Galactus's eyes
change to real and then to the

1559
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:53,640
power cosmic.
Like you see that he was

1560
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,640
actually a real person.
And.

1561
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:57,960
Then you see his eyes change
back.

1562
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,880
He did a couple times.
I I thought it was brilliant.

1563
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:06,280
Yeah, it's like the part where
where Galactus was put was in

1564
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,000
the tunnel is trying to come
back out and Silver Surfer

1565
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,360
pushed Johnny out of the way and
went towards him.

1566
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,640
He had the Power Cosmic on.
Then he turned it off and looked

1567
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,400
there like what are you doing?
I excuse.

1568
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:17,800
Me, you supposed to be on my
side.

1569
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,320
And she pushed it back in.
That was that was awesome.

1570
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,560
Right, right.
But I love that detail.

1571
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,200
That was one of my favorite
parts.

1572
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,040
So oh wow, they actually thought
about that.

1573
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,840
That was kind of cool.
I like that.

1574
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,800
Everything about Galactus I
liked.

1575
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:40,040
OK, yeah, yeah, he, he reminded
me.

1576
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,360
And I know I asked you, Anthony,
because I was like if he had

1577
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,760
celestial and you were like, no,
but that's what he reminded me

1578
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:46,800
of.
Me too.

1579
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:52,080
You know, the the celestials.
But OK, Michelle, what was your

1580
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,240
favorite?
Supposed to be as as big as they

1581
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:55,320
are.
And I know some people

1582
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:59,400
complained about he was.
He was small, smaller than he

1583
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,960
should be.
But in the comic books, he can

1584
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,640
change his size.
I was going to say that seemed

1585
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:10,640
like something that a person
like him would be able to do.

1586
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:11,840
Yeah, he.
Can change the.

1587
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,440
Size, yeah, he can scale.
Plus he plus he doesn't like

1588
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:18,480
eat, eat planets like an apple.
I think that's where a lot of

1589
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:21,000
people were like, they're like,
Oh my God, he's not, he's not

1590
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,320
eating the planet.
He's just, he's just walking

1591
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,720
around on it.
He but no, but that's really

1592
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,400
what happens.
Like he sits in the chair, the

1593
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:31,520
tubes go into him and he's in
his ship goes through the planet

1594
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,760
and processes it and feeds him.
That's why how he feeds.

1595
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,880
He doesn't just like just like
walk around grabbing planets

1596
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:42,320
like like apples off a carton.
Just don't, just don't just like

1597
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,200
planet cores just floating
around in outer space where he's

1598
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,160
he's been past them and stuff
like a letter bug.

1599
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,600
Like damn, yeah, messy some
bitch.

1600
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,760
Yeah.
Hey Michelle, what is your

1601
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,320
favorite?
I'm not there yet, What's your

1602
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,040
favorite scene?
This.

1603
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:58,080
Was your idea.
Hey, you could.

1604
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:02,760
Rob him around.
I think that's I talked about my

1605
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,800
favorite I the part earlier,
which is why I didn't think to

1606
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:10,040
ask it again.
But just them showing Sue Storm

1607
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,400
to be as powerful as she was.
She was, you know, not shying

1608
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,520
away from, you know, the fact
that even though she's a mother,

1609
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,280
she can still be a superhero.
She can still be important.

1610
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,560
She can still be the most
powerful person there because,

1611
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:28,440
yeah, Rita's the smartest.
But she's the most powerful out

1612
01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:31,760
of all of them and I love what
they didn't shy away from that.

1613
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,840
Right.
So anything in the movie just

1614
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:40,120
stood out then anything else
then for you that you said that

1615
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:41,560
are?
You trying to buy time?

1616
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,080
Yes.
We need to talk about Herbie.

1617
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:47,520
You need to talk about.
Herbie, Herbie I I loved Herbie.

1618
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,720
I I love the way they kind of
treated him like family.

1619
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:55,240
I love the way that him and
Johnny were kind of, you know,

1620
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,400
they had the little connection
that they had calling him

1621
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,280
Herbert.
I was like, really y'all?

1622
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,320
When he scratched him on the
head every time, every time he

1623
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,000
brought him something, he
scratched him on the head like a

1624
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,040
dog.
Like that's cool as shit.

1625
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,160
It was just.
Cute I I liked him.

1626
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:14,440
He reminded me of other like
cutesy robots like Wally and

1627
01:28:14,440 --> 01:28:16,960
that sort of thing.
It was it was cute you.

1628
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:21,160
Know and also he runs on tape
because when they took off, Reed

1629
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,200
took Reed took the home tape out
and put the space tape in.

1630
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,160
I was like.
Well, I mean, it's the 60s

1631
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,240
cassette.
No, that was cool as shit.

1632
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:33,880
Yeah, that was like that was
storage room full of the tapes.

1633
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:35,520
Yeah, right.
Exactly.

1634
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:42,520
Mike, what's your favorite?
It's a there was a couple I, I.

1635
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,720
Want you guys stick to 11 but.
But you ain't.

1636
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:48,600
You ain't ready yet.
I don't know.

1637
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,640
I'm ready, but go ahead and do
your one.

1638
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:55,560
Do your one.
Fine, I really like how they did

1639
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,360
Johnny in this.
I think I think Johnny's

1640
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,360
probably probably one of my
favorite character.

1641
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:04,240
I love the way they they didn't
they didn't make him an idiot.

1642
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,720
They they made where they made
him smart.

1643
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:11,200
They, they actually had him
figuring things out and I love

1644
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:16,640
that he treats, he actually
treats Reed like his Big

1645
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,240
Brother, like he wants to
impress him.

1646
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,560
That's why he kept bringing them
the plans for the suits.

1647
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,120
He was just like, look what I
did, Look what I did, I need you

1648
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:24,600
to help me with this.
Then look what I did.

1649
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,360
He's trying to, he's trying to
have show him that he's a he's

1650
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,920
smart just like he is.
It's like he's treating him like

1651
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,960
a Big Brother.
And I really like that with that

1652
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,440
that kind of relationship with
him instead of him just being a

1653
01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:41,000
pest that goes out and melts his
clothes off and creates A

1654
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:45,040
creates a hot tub and had and
does all the first movie like

1655
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,440
whatever.
And I like the fact that Reed

1656
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:50,320
actually paid attention to him
because like, yeah, Reed can get

1657
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,120
focused and he's like, I'm
working on this right now,

1658
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,080
working on this right now.
But then when they get ready to

1659
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,560
go back to space, he was like,
it's your suits.

1660
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:01,320
I did your suits.
I I I like that, Yeah.

1661
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:03,600
Yeah, that's cool.
I I really like their

1662
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,840
relationship.
I I just like, I really like

1663
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,920
Johnny overall in this.
I think that they did a really

1664
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:13,240
good job in portraying him and
not making him a making them

1665
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,920
just a just a, a character where
you'd like oh God, like an

1666
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,120
annoying character.
They made him, they made him

1667
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:24,080
have a purpose and they made him
have I've had an active role in

1668
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:30,240
saving everybody and like
showing that he that he can

1669
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,880
think and that he's smart and I
appreciated.

1670
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:37,040
That yeah, I'm I'm gonna not let
you off the hook too.

1671
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:41,520
So what 1 scene then encompasses
that for you?

1672
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,840
The scene, the scene where she
where, where Shia Labal is about

1673
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:51,360
to destroy the last, the last
gate and he broadcast her,

1674
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,880
broadcast her talking and, and
he's like, this is, this is your

1675
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:57,280
verse.
And she's like, how'd you do

1676
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:58,840
that?
He's like, I translated and he

1677
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,320
translated everything for her.
And she's just standing, sitting

1678
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,600
there like, what the fuck is
like she had, she was like, how

1679
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,080
did you do this?
And he's just like, and he and

1680
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,560
this is how he convinced her
and, and just like it.

1681
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,680
And that's how he turned her.
And I thought that was just

1682
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,440
fucking brilliant.
That was just beautiful.

1683
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,400
It was awesome.
OK, Michelle, your turn.

1684
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,520
With Stalin, my favorite scene
is the movie.

1685
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,560
I'm just joking.
I think y'all do all that.

1686
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,920
I told y'all who are just
listening, you should have seen

1687
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,760
the look on Anthony's face just
now.

1688
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:35,280
He's looking at her like,
really?

1689
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,520
That's hilarious.
So honestly I'm trying to

1690
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:44,080
shorten it so it is actually
when they go and investigate

1691
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,600
Galactus.
I like it from that part, even

1692
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:56,160
with everyone's part in trying
to escape and I I thought that

1693
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,880
was powerful in her trying to
have a baby all at the same

1694
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,640
time.
And yes, it's action, but if you

1695
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:05,680
just pay attention to everyone,
I just that was the highlight.

1696
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:14,760
That one scene, the 1 scene is
them in the shuttle giving away.

1697
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:23,080
Ben's flying his ass off, John
is helping, Sue is concentrating

1698
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,120
and there's no concentration
ever.

1699
01:32:26,440 --> 01:32:28,560
Active labor, you know what I'm
saying?

1700
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:33,120
Also kind of shows how sometimes
you can like be the smartest,

1701
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:37,000
but when things are happening
and you just some things you

1702
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:40,520
just can't control.
You can see it on his face.

1703
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:44,320
Like I can come up with some
things that we could do, but I

1704
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,800
can't control when or how this
baby's might come out.

1705
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:49,880
I can just be there for.
Her.

1706
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:52,000
And that's the moment.
This is the most important.

1707
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,360
Thing right?
He was like, yeah, I know the

1708
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:58,960
spaceship is breaking apart, but
yeah.

1709
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,360
So and the the animation of the
Silver Surfer getting caught in

1710
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,480
a black hole was just like.
Yeah.

1711
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,560
The the look of oh shit on her
face.

1712
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,080
Yeah, she realized what was
happening.

1713
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:14,800
The fact that he calculated
though, it's going to take her

1714
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,840
30 days to get out.
Yeah.

1715
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,320
This is delayed.
Like that's, that's a different

1716
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,360
level of smart.
It's like he knows exactly where

1717
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:28,880
to where to teleport the Earth
to where it can actually be in

1718
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:32,880
orbit around a star and not
throw everybody off the fucking

1719
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,320
planet.
Like that's, that's the same.

1720
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,200
It's just like, just like it
says like if you're off like a

1721
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:40,680
couple of miles.
Like I was.

1722
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:42,360
Gonna say Anthony's not
convinced it's.

1723
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:45,920
Like, like, like, like, like
you're either flooding the Earth

1724
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,560
or everybody's flying off of it.
It's like you have to find

1725
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:53,600
something that has that has the
right amount of gravity to and

1726
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:59,680
the right amount of everything
so that because it it the Earth,

1727
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:05,560
people don't realize how many
weird coincidences have happened

1728
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:10,200
so that we exist, that the Earth
is an actual thing.

1729
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,000
Like there's so many things that
have happened that are still

1730
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,480
happening that take place in
order that everything that

1731
01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:20,480
happened at the same time for
the Earth to actually function

1732
01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:24,400
and exist as a planet and to
support life.

1733
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,720
Like that's my well, you, you
don't think about it because

1734
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:31,000
you, you won't think of anything
else because it's like there's

1735
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:35,440
spins at a certain degree of
spins at a certain speed and the

1736
01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:38,440
gravity holds and the center of
the Earth.

1737
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:41,640
It's like there's a whole lot of
shit that goes into a.

1738
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,240
Partridge and a pear tree.
Yeah, like.

1739
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,360
A whole ton of shit.
It's like and orbiting around

1740
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,280
the sun, it's like and the moon
where the moon, it's like

1741
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,440
there's so much shit that goes
into it and reads just like, OK,

1742
01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:55,800
let's just put all these
teleporters over here.

1743
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,360
We're going to go from here to
here.

1744
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,440
We should be fine.
Yeah.

1745
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,480
Exactly.
Again, Anthony's not convinced.

1746
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,320
Anthony, I'm kind of with
Anthony now.

1747
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,240
The more you do is like bro
really?

1748
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:12,840
Yeah, you just talked yourself
into that like I do.

1749
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:17,320
Talk, I talk myself into it, but
he but it's like that's a lot of

1750
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:22,200
calculation.
Like I OK, I'm just going to let

1751
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:25,080
it go.
Yeah, 'cause I'm not that smart,

1752
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:26,680
so I'm not even going to second
guess him.

1753
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,920
I'm not that smart, So yeah.
That's that's a lot of thinking.

1754
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,880
If that's what he says is going
to take, if that's what he says

1755
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:36,160
is going to happen, I'm a
believer, I believe.

1756
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:37,840
I can't.
I can't even move a glass from

1757
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,080
here to here without it falling
off the damn table.

1758
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,440
So how am I going?
To, but he already had.

1759
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:47,920
He had it on a tiny scale, the
calculations just had to

1760
01:35:48,440 --> 01:35:54,120
increase due to size like.
I would have questions like, did

1761
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:58,680
you calculate the gravity of all
the other things in the area?

1762
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,840
Are you sure that there isn't a
random comment that you missed

1763
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:08,440
that might be going?
Those are the unknowns that.

1764
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,920
Would be a conversation he would
have had if Tony Stark was still

1765
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,880
alive and on his because.
Those are.

1766
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,840
Them banner and and like I want
to be in a room and just watch

1767
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,280
them volley.
Right, because the asteroid that

1768
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,880
is moving, that's, that's not
consistent.

1769
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:28,080
He was looking at consistent
things.

1770
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,040
Not that they're pretty
consistent.

1771
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:33,280
No, as in you don't know if
one's going to come on that

1772
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,360
path.
He can't.

1773
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,560
You don't know that until it's
close.

1774
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:43,920
That's just like us.
We monitor space to see.

1775
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,520
Actually, it's fine, but other
than that, the stars are not.

1776
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,120
Or they're moving, but they're
not.

1777
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,960
He can find a place that has the
same gravitational pool.

1778
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:55,400
Again, this is a different
universe.

1779
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,560
Until you tell him, forgive
anybody.

1780
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:03,120
Oh my God.
Off by two degrees.

1781
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,000
Oh my God, we're all.
Dead.

1782
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:08,080
And he tried.
We will be here.

1783
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,120
Forever.
At least he tried.

1784
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:14,440
And the thing about science is
you don't know, right?

1785
01:37:14,480 --> 01:37:17,240
And you don't know until it
actually happens.

1786
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:22,400
So at least he tries.
Yes, it is all a theory until it

1787
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,880
is done.
And how is he moving in far

1788
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,160
enough, far enough away,
exactly?

1789
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,040
Far enough away that Galactus
isn't going to be?

1790
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:30,920
Just look over there and be like
there.

1791
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,600
We are.
Yeah, it's a distraction.

1792
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:36,800
It's not because it's a
distraction.

1793
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,320
And then we will have to move
again.

1794
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,800
How?
How much got that kind of energy

1795
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,160
we got?
That we no, I mean, move again

1796
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:47,000
when he comes, which may be
another five years or 10 years.

1797
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,880
What happens if it's 50 years
and he's dead?

1798
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,200
I don't know.
The Earth is just doomed.

1799
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,720
Yeah, it's like I.
Mean seriously 'cause once he

1800
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:02,040
died but he gonna put in a
report of what to do for when

1801
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:05,720
this ever happens again.
You just see the Silver Surfer

1802
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,280
floating down to earth again and
be like.

1803
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,320
This was really a temporary.
Feat of your shit.

1804
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:15,360
Yeah.
I herald his egg, his egg

1805
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,920
aggravation.
I herald.

1806
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:19,840
I herald his anger.
I'm.

1807
01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:22,080
Done.
I'm done.

1808
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:25,960
OK.
You guys have any final thoughts

1809
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:30,640
on fantastic core first steps?
No, it's fantastic.

1810
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:31,600
No.
I'm good.

1811
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:36,200
OK, so shout out to Mark Gaddis
who played the television host

1812
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,320
who introduced the Fantastic
Four at the beginning and the

1813
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,800
end.
He actually played Mycroft Homes

1814
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,320
on the Sherlock series.
The one with with comma comma

1815
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:48,960
bun, bumper snatch on it.
I I I am not here for Reed

1816
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:52,080
Richards teleportation bullshit.
You know what?

1817
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:58,280
Also, also real quick, I'm not,
I'm just gonna kind of touch on

1818
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:00,840
this.
I had I watched this with my DND

1819
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:05,040
friends and first of all, shout,
shout, shout to Josh Lee and all

1820
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,080
them.
They surprised the fuck out of

1821
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,360
me because they know a lot about
the Fantastic Four.

1822
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:13,360
And they were, both of them were
disappointed that this wasn't

1823
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,640
linked to the maker like they
were trying, trying to bring the

1824
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:18,840
maker into this.
For those who don't know, the

1825
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:24,720
maker is a version of Reed
Richards who has gone insane

1826
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,120
because he's been shown how the
world's going to end.

1827
01:39:28,440 --> 01:39:31,000
And he makes himself mad trying
to.

1828
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,240
I think this is right.
He makes himself mad trying to

1829
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:38,240
fix it and trying to avoid it.
I think that's why I think

1830
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:39,600
that's right.
That's that's correct.

1831
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:43,480
OK, so it's like they were
thinking it made sense for that

1832
01:39:43,480 --> 01:39:46,840
version to make an appearance,
but I was like, that's just too

1833
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:48,200
much.
I mean, we could let's just work

1834
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:53,360
on getting Galactus right first,
but something not making Reed a

1835
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:57,080
complete know it all and showing
that he has some vulnerability

1836
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:00,480
and like there's sometimes he
doesn't know what to do because

1837
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,000
despite what everyone thinks,
nobody likes a smart ass and

1838
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,880
like portraying him as such just
kind of dehumanizes him.

1839
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:10,160
I think this just shows that
he's.

1840
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,320
At underneath it all, underneath
all that brain power that he

1841
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:16,520
possesses, he's still human and
there's still moments where he's

1842
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:18,600
just like, I no idea what the
fuck to do.

1843
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:25,120
And I really like that
vulnerability in him style to

1844
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:28,680
them totally misleading us in
Thunderbolts, thinking that the

1845
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:32,040
end of this movie was going to
show why they showed why they

1846
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:35,320
showed a Fantastic Four ship in
the post credit scene in

1847
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,280
Thunderbolts.
And we never saw what, never saw

1848
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,000
anything about that.
So I'm going to tell you

1849
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,760
something about that.
What I found out after

1850
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:46,280
Thunderbolts was that that
particular scene.

1851
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,480
Was.
Filmed by the Russo Brothers,

1852
01:40:50,480 --> 01:40:52,280
which means it's part of
Avengers Doom.

1853
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:56,360
Right, which that's what that's
what I figured out it did kind

1854
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:56,760
of.
It did end.

1855
01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:01,280
If you, you know, you say to the
end and you saw who popped up.

1856
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,520
So you realize what's about to
happen.

1857
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,400
Yeah.
You saw Doom pop up.

1858
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,720
Yeah, Yeah.
And that means Franklin's about

1859
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:13,000
to be taken.
Yeah, but so that was

1860
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:16,280
interesting.
I I, I was like, I didn't even

1861
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,720
think about it until we're like,
already already.

1862
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,640
I was already home and I was
like, wait, we didn't see

1863
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:23,560
anything about that.
Like, what the hell?

1864
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,240
That was like, oh, that's right.
Russo's directed it.

1865
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:31,400
So that's part Doomsday.
I was like.

1866
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:36,720
About that in Doomsday next
year, hopefully if there are no

1867
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:46,520
delays, so.
Yeah, so ahead, yeah, I this

1868
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:50,520
movie is is below Android
Thunderbolts a little bit more

1869
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:56,080
than this movie.
So but this but this wasn't a

1870
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:58,400
bad movie at all.
So it's like kind of bit, it's

1871
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:01,720
like right in the middle for me,
like second, second or third

1872
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,760
level for me.
I was like, I was really good.

1873
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:11,280
Like I'll give it like A7.
And then for me, I had low

1874
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:17,200
expectations for this movie like
I did for Superman 2.

1875
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,560
So surprisingly I like both of
them.

1876
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:27,280
But it's it's the favorite of
all the Fantastic Fours.

1877
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,960
That's a Pretty Little bar.
Lay down.

1878
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:35,920
Will it be in my rewatch
collection?

1879
01:42:36,440 --> 01:42:42,040
I can occasionally watch rewatch
this to get ready for for the

1880
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,040
next movie.
I just Fast forward to the

1881
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,480
collector.
Yeah, it's not my permanent

1882
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:50,760
playlist of, again, Winter
Soldier like Panther.

1883
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:56,160
Shouted them trying to fool
people into thinking that they

1884
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,280
had a Stark Industries made
pregnancy test.

1885
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,600
When it said stork I saw so many
people saying thinking that it

1886
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,560
said it said the on the on the
pregnancy test where I soon

1887
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:08,880
found out she was pregnant.
It said stork something.

1888
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,160
Oh that says stark.
I'm like, there's a stork right

1889
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:18,040
there on it.
That's going to say I didn't

1890
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:21,280
even pay attention to that, but
yeah, all right.

1891
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:26,840
So again, it looks like we're
going to be seeing them again in

1892
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:31,240
Avengers Doomsday, which is
supposed to be coming out in

1893
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,800
2026.
Now I'm not sure how this going

1894
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:35,880
to happen considering they're
still filming.

1895
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:37,920
But you know what?
If the Russo brothers say

1896
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,720
they're going to do it in 2026,
I'm going to have faith in the

1897
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:45,480
Russo brothers and and say 2026
'cause I I really don't want

1898
01:43:45,480 --> 01:43:49,880
this to go to 20/27/2012.
And I believe them, yeah.

1899
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,560
So they didn't tell us when In
2026.

1900
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:58,760
I believe, if I remember
correctly, I think it might be

1901
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:02,200
the the the summer Temple movie
might be May.

1902
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:07,680
So I'm not sure don't quote me
on that, but OK, you know, you

1903
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:11,520
know, but I mean, if it's 2026,
we're we're already like in the

1904
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:16,200
in the back half of 2025.
I can deal with 2026 now.

1905
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,840
If they delay it I might start
getting a little antsy, but.

1906
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:21,840
I'm OK and then if they still
filming, they could be filming

1907
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:29,120
small things and knowing them
they have different things being

1908
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:32,800
filmed, I think they'll be OK.
Yeah, I think so too.

1909
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:37,800
So I guess we'll catch up with
the Fantastic Four and Doomsday

1910
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,880
next year, but for now, that is
it for our show.

1911
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:44,360
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1912
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:47,360
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1913
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1917
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