Oct. 13, 2025
Marvel Zombies - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #380
#marvel #marvelanimation #MCU When most of the world's heroes (and most of the world, period) are turned into undead killing machines, a group of survivors fight the odds in an effort to save humanity from extinction.
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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here
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with Anthony and Mike and we are
discussing Marvel Zombies and
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it's been a while since we've
done a show.
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It's we've been a little busy,
but OK, we're going to get
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started on this because Anthony
has already let us know that he
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was not a huge fan and I just
want to go ahead and get the
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negative voice out.
No, I'm just joking.
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No, seriously.
No, I, I mean it, it was, it was
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OK for the first hurdle.
This, like every time Marvel
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Zombies comes up, is the fact
that it's zombies.
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It's zombies and you don't
really.
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Like that, you don't really do
zombies.
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And, you know, on top of I don't
really like gore and I just,
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I've never been a fan of zombie
stuff.
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Yeah, the person.
Because you're a horror person.
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But I think we've had this
conversation.
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We've had this conversation
before, yeah.
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The, the person I live with whom
I'm related to my marriage said
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it's, it's interesting because
it's not that you don't really
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like zombies because there's
zombie things.
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They're zombie adjacent.
They're like like Days of Us is
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sort of kind kind of zombie
adjacent.
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World War Z is kind of zombie
adjacent.
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So you're not.
Zombie adjacent it is zombie.
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Lone Zombie.
Like like it's the zombies that
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run after your ass, like it's
the.
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Zombies on speak.
They're not.
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It's a virus.
And they're not they're not dead
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people coming back to life.
They're they're living people
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who are being converted, OK?
That's why I said zombie
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adjacent.
They say it wasn't zombie,
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zombie adjacent.
And and The Last of Us is
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mushrooms And and they, and the
lore of that show says that the
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people are still alive.
You kill the people.
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They're they're they're just
trapped inside their brain.
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They can't do anything right.
OK, so I mean, there's a lot of
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nostalgia in it, so I understand
why people like it because
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there's a lot of characters we
want to see again, a lot of
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characters we miss a lot of
combinations.
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That's very familiar.
But it was like we took end game
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and trying to chopped it up,
screwed it and spit out
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something kind of different and
and it was it was it was it was
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mild.
It was it was OK.
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I was able to watch all four
episodes and not be completely
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turned off.
Moon as as Mike's name, Blade
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Night, Best thing, you know,
best thing, absolutely best
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thing and.
The.
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Thing it threw me off about that
they had Blade Night looking
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like Mahershala Ali.
That was not Mahershala.
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It was.
Voicing him, but he sounded
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like.
He sounds like him.
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Yeah, it threw me off so much
watching this, but I'm sorry, go
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ahead.
And, and the last thing is I,
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I've spent 3 or 4 episodes in my
head trying to work out the
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Icarus and Captain Marvel fight.
So I was more interested in that
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than I was anything elf in Blade
Night, of course.
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But OK, Icarus and Captain
Marvel, I would pay money to
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watch that for an entire
episode.
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Right.
And you can give that to me in
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live action too, because I think
the thing that I really liked
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about this show is the fact that
they, like you said, they kind
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of chopped and screwed what we
know about the the Marvel
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Cinematic Universe and the
characters in it.
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So like, for the most part, most
of the bad people or the people
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that we look at as like the
villains or the the morally
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ambiguous ones, they were the
ones who for the most part was,
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were were trying to do things
right or we're trying to save
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people.
And then it was the heroes,
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except for the ones that were
alive still, who were the
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zombies and who were trying to
destroy everything.
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And I thought that was very
interesting.
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But yeah, the the the fight in
the what was it the Valley of
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the Gods that really interested
me because when I was watching
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this, of course, I didn't know
who all was going to show up in
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this show.
You know, who the main
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characters were.
And given the fact that they
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tell us in the last episode or
the third episode that this
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really that this is a
continuation of the Marvel
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Zombies episodes from what is
you kind of get an idea of who's
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in it.
But like, when Icarus showed up
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on the screen and I saw him, I
was like, I was very glad
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because again, I'm one of the
few people who actually enjoyed
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the Eternals and would like to
see more of these characters.
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And the fact that he was the one
who was trying to not
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necessarily save planet Earth,
but he was trying to keep
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Captain Marvel from getting out
into the universe and affecting
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other planets with whatever this
zombie virus, whatever it is.
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I thought that was really
interesting.
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And like you said, these are two
powerful beings who cannot beat
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each other.
They're just throwing each other
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around.
It's kind of like it's almost
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like the whole we could we're
going to do, we're going to be
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at this all day.
I'm thinking legal of
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extraordinary gentlemen, Dorian
Gray and and Mina, when they're
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going back and forth, they're
like, OK, you can't die.
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I can't die.
We're just going to be doing
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this.
We might as well be here all
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nights.
So.
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And because at first I was like
Thunder, lightning, that that
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has to be like Thor and Storm or
somebody.
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And then when I saw Ichris was
like, oh, snap.
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That was like the only time I
did that during the whole.
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So I was like, oh, OK.
And then yeah, he's either
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keeping her on Earth or keeping
her from just obliterating
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everybody.
Right?
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Yeah.
But I thought because she didn't
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look like she was interested in
leaving because she kept going
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after the the.
Trio, yeah.
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Yeah, so I, I think if she had
tried, if she had wanted to
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leave, she was trying to hard
out.
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But I don't know if she wanted
to leave, right.
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But I know he didn't want her
running rampant because, you
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know.
She was destroying some shit.
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She was missing stuff up, yeah.
Right, right.
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So, oh, I mean overall it was
OK, like, you know, out of
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course I'm not going to watch it
again, but that's this is me.
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The only like real critique I
have is they should just went
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all out and threw some X-Men in
there, threw some mutants in
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there.
But you know, it is what it is.
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And see, that's kind of what I
thought would happen, especially
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in that first episode when they
were driving through the valley
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because they kept talking about
the storms.
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So I was like, oh, are they
going to bring storm into this?
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And I thought about, I was like,
I don't know if they would do
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that because it would kind of, I
guess veer off.
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I think I would expect her more
if it was a what if Marvel
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zombies episode.
But given the fact that even in
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what if they didn't throw her in
until like the last what couple
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of episodes?
Then I, you know, I was kind of
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looking at it like, it's very
unlikely that it's her, but I
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was like, maybe not.
And then like you said, when
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Icarus shows up, I was like, oh,
yes.
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And then when you see who he's
fighting and why he's fighting
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her, like it's a zombified
Captain Marvel, probably the
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most terrifying scenario you can
ever think of in this world,
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Somebody who is that powerful
and is also a zombie.
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Now, I would still say Wanda is
still more terrified.
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Yeah.
Yeah, Captain Marvel.
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Yeah, even back in what if when
when she got out, you're like,
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Oh yeah, things about to be
messed up.
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Yeah, OK.
But it it it, it was OK.
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I I was fine.
There were some things I like.
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Like I like the Guardians being
dialed back on the comedy.
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He was still funny, but he
wasn't over the top.
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Yeah, I like it.
It's really touchy in.
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This one.
Yeah, but I was talking about
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him specifically.
He was dialed back and there
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there are some things that that
I I liked about it.
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A lot of the relationship
things, especially with Yelena
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and and the Red Guardian was and
Molina was all pretty touching
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so.
Yeah, yeah.
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I, I am a little bit disturbed
about the fact that Natasha was
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nowhere in this, though.
That kind of bothers me, you
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know, especially, you know,
coming off of the relationships
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and Black Widow and then, you
know, just kind of seeing
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Yolena's reaction to Natasha's
death and Hawkeye.
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And then also in Thunderbolts, I
was just like, can we just get
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like Natasha with her family
just a little bit?
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But well timeline wise she be
dead though see you see over my.
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Either that or she or she was in
the in the first wave of of
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Avengers that got turned like in
the what if and what if zombies
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when they went went to San
Francisco.
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Like there's a good chance she
was probably in that first wave
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of people get earned so.
I just figured I'm like since
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y'all are since y'all are kind
of referencing what if?
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What if Natasha didn't die?
How about that?
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I think I'm just still a little
bitter about the whole Natasha
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dying period.
So I'm I'm just a little yeah, I
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still have feelings about that.
But.
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Well, there's always hope.
Remember, there's a Natasha
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who's still alive in the
universe that didn't have a
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Natasha.
So.
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That that is true.
That is true.
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But Mike, what were your
favorite part?
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So what were your thoughts about
about the the series in general?
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Oh, oh, oh, oh.
He's cracking his knuckles.
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No, I like Anthony.
I'm not a big zombie guy.
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Like I'm not.
I just don't.
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I don't necessarily like being
scared.
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I don't like, I don't like jump
scares at all.
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Like I'm not.
No, don't do that to me, but I
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throw I I won't say I thoroughly
enjoyed it, but I I really like
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this.
I I like everything that they
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did.
I mean, of course the blade
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night is like the first thing,
like I that just blew my mind,
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like his swordplay, like I wish
they hadn't put that sword fight
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between that brief sword fight
between him and ghost.
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I wish they hadn't, because I
knew what's going to happen is
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still fucking bad ass.
But there's like all that
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happened in the first episode.
Like I was like, OK, I really, I
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enjoyed, I enjoyed Chong Chi.
I I really kind of enjoyed Chong
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Chi in this episode.
I thought, I thought it was
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creative as fuck how they listed
how they did the 10 rings
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stopping, stopping him from
turning into a zombie.
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Like I thought I was like, I
never would have thought that
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they could use the rings like
that.
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I was just like, OK, that's
actually pretty cool.
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OK, so I don't know what this is
called.
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I don't know if there's a term
for it, but I call it like
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tragedy corps where they where,
you know, they give like a
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character like in in all
disaster movies.
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You know, there's a moment like
in Titanic, there's a moment
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where they're playing, playing
the where the quartet's playing,
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playing and the old couples on
the bed, like huddled up and
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waters rushing past them.
And it's like, again, deep
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impact, I think it's deep
impact.
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There's like T and Leonie and
her father standing on the beach
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when the tidal waves getting
ready to come and crash over
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them and stuff.
And it's like those moments,
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like, I don't know, it's, it's
something about those moments
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that get me this like I look at
him and I'm like, Oh my God.
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Like I'm getting like emotional,
but actually kind of like those.
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It's like, in a weird way, I
kind of like those.
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It's like, I call it tragedy
corps.
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It's like, like I'm like, OK,
I'm, I don't necessarily like
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it, but it's like, I love seeing
human elements in things like
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this.
You know, I'm saying it's like,
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like people who are like
showing, showing, showing an
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emotional side when someone's
dying, like, like Elena giving
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herself up for everybody.
Like I've, I've poor, poor
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Lexie.
I mean, first he loses, he loses
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the mother, like, and then he
loses Elena and then he eats.
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He's fucking zombie fingers
Instead.
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I was like, oh come.
Can we circle?
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Can we circle back to that
later?
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Yes, we we can because Oh my, I
think that was probably the most
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disturbing part of of this whole
thing.
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But yes, we will circle back to
that later.
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Also, like the shock, the shock
of like, like Kate Bishop, like
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dying like that, like in the
mid, like they did her dirty.
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I'm like, OK, you would give
her, give her her confetti arrow
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and then have her just get
completely fucking obliterated.
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Like I was just like, what?
And the fact that OK, also the
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fact that apparently RiRi has a
cure for all of this.
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Like she has a she has a zombie
cure because apparently in the
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end, she's still alive and she's
trying to get trying, trying to
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contact Miss Marvel and tell her
that everything is everything is
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an illusion.
She's figured it out and she's
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trying to get in contact with
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Like, OK, we're going to circle
back to that because I have
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questions about that.
Because yeah, we had this
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discussion in Messenger.
So yes, I realized that.
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But oh, I, I, I reasonably
enjoyed it.
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There were a couple of moments
that was just kind of like, like
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me, but I mean, Eternal Hulk was
pretty bad ass.
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I was, I was like, OK, yeah.
That that that's an interesting
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solution to all of that.
I like how they handled handle
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T'challa without actually having
having to, you know, have
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someone.
So that voice actor?
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Yeah.
I thought that was, you know,
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and actually in Anthony's face,
he has something to say about
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that.
But.
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I don't.
OK, cool.
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But but I like how I like how
they continued it even though it
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was like, it's weird how I did
it in 4 episodes to me kind of
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felt like 6, like somehow like
like like even though they're
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like, I felt like there were
distinct different parts of this
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where it could have been like 6
or 8 episodes, but they kind of
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condensed.
They kind of like reduced it
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down to like a few important
things.
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They felt longer because I think
there was, there was so much
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going on in them.
Like you really didn't have a
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lot of a lot of lows in the
episodes or a lot of slow
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moments.
And even the slow moments there
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were, there were things, there
were things going on.
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There was dialogue, there was
exposition and there was, you
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know, like again, there, there
was the comedy, there was the,
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the relationship building.
So it it did feel a little bit
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longer.
Yeah, and I I'm glad they
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brought back Wu.
I don't know why.
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Like he that just made me smile.
Like just give, give Wu, give
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Wu, give Wu a little bit, give
me a little something.
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I was like, OK, that's that's
actually pretty cool, yeah.
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At first I was like, I I
realized, oh wait, yeah, he
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would have been in San Francisco
because Scott was in San
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Francisco.
And that was during like Ant Man
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2, wasn't it?
Yeah.
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And he was in the house with
Yeah.
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I was like, oh, OK, it made, it
made.
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At first I was like, Oh yeah,
how convenient.
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I was like, oh wait, no,
actually it makes sense.
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Yes, it does Stop being such a
pessimist.
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Almost kind of wish wish he
would.
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They would have found a way to
put Darcy in it, since they
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found a way to put Darcy in
everything.
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But you know.
Yeah, but no, because if they
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brought Darcy, that means Howard
the Duck would have been there
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and he would have been this.
Would get an A+ from me.
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No, I, I couldn't have handled
it.
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It would have been an A+ from
me.
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I'll I've been yelling from the
rooftops about this is the best
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thing Marvel has ever done, but.
You know, fortunately he's he's
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stuck on nowhere, Probably so.
Yeah, probably, yeah.
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Yeah.
But I mean, overall I thought, I
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thought it was good.
I I really, I actually enjoyed a
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lot of it.
So, yeah, OK.
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I'm a I'm a ask you all to guess
what my favorite part of the of
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this series was.
Mike, you should know 'cause I
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think I messaged you about it.
What could possibly be my
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favorite part of this whole
entire series?
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I I know what it is I.
They had one death that they
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showed in slow motion.
Oh yeah, John Walker.
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All four episodes it was John
Walker.
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Let me tell.
You, the moment I heard his
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voice.
And if I ever meet Wyatt Ross,
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I'm going to be like, you know
what?
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I love you, but your voice
triggers me because all I think
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is John Walker.
But the moment I heard his voice
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when he showed up, I was like,
you mean to tell me that Hawkeye
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is dead, Captain America is
dead, all of these other people
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die, but John Walker lived.
John Walker.
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But first.
He not only lived, he's Zemo's
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right hand man.
And I don't mean in the Oh yeah,
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we're equals kind of where I
mean in the I'm poor and my boss
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is drinking.
Giving it to him, I'm about to
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sacrifice my life so Zemo can
get it was the weirdest thing,
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and he was still kind of
irritating.
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And when that death happened,
when Namor tore him apart, I
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cackled so loudly I was like,
oh, I should have been recording
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my reaction to this.
It was gold.
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I loved it.
He his, his ability to probably
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sacrifice others for his safety
is probably why he's still
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standing, which is on brand for
him.
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And and two, when he showed that
Michelle was like, yeah,
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Hanukkah was going to have a
thing about this.
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I was so irritated but.
And him laying on the floor
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gasping for it.
Yeah, I know You were like.
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With his spine showing from the
bottom of his torn torso.
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It was it was just chef's kiss.
I loved it, I loved it.
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Y'all just y'all know how much I
hate that character.
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But but I did like the other
characters we got to see.
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I love seeing RiRi, Kamala and
Kate as as roomies and as
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friends and as like Cold
Warriors.
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That was a lot of fun because as
you all know, if you listen to
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us talk about Hawkeye, I really
did not care for Kate Bishop
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much.
And I still have not had a
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chance to sit down and watch
Ironheart, which I'm planning to
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do this week because I'm on
break from work.
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So, you know, I don't have as
much of A grasp on her
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character.
Yes.
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But to see the three of them
together and kind of how they
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interact with each other and how
they depend on each other, I
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love that because of course, you
know, yeah.
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Strong women characters love it.
Strong young women characters
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who are, you know, doing great
things and saving the world and
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stuff.
Love it.
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And the diverse?
And, and, and the diversity,
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yes, I, I mean, there's just so
much about that trio that I
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loved and to to kind of have
them torn apart from each other
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like so quickly that kind of
sucked.
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But again, it is only a four
episode art.
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So, you know, it's kind of like
she had to, she had to go
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through all of that.
Did you say art?
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She had to kind of go through
all of that.
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And then to see her interact
with like Shawn, she and Katie.
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And I love the fact that they
gave Katie, you know, half of
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the rings.
So she's not just some, you
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know, human person.
That's a liability.
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Like she actually pulled her
weight.
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She was like, oh, OK, you going
to give me these rings?
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I'm going to be just as awesome
as everyone else.
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Loved it.
I loved the fact that we got to
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see her interact with Alexi and
Molina and Yelena and I, I like
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the way that they build the
relationships even in the
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animated series.
And even though it's short, it's
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sweet.
I think they did a really great
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job and it's it's one of those
things again, where I feel like
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I really want to see some of
this and live action.
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And we probably will come when
it comes to Doomsday because I
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think most of these characters
are in Doomsday, if I'm not
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mistaken.
And they've got to all interact
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some, some kind of way, kind of
like, you know, the Guardians of
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the Galaxy interacting with Thor
and interacting with, you know,
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the others.
That that part kind of intrigues
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me because you see characters
that you normally wouldn't think
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to put together and they're in
in this show together and they
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play very well off of each
other.
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They, you know, it's kind of
like when it's US against the
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zombie world, you kind of don't
have time for egos.
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You don't have time for, you
know, a whole bunch of
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bickering.
And I just, I loved it.
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I really did.
Like Death Dealer and and woo
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and woo.
Just in general, because when
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they're driving through the
desert and they get set upon by
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the by the Raiders, the scrolls,
I was like really, y'all had to
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throw them in there?
Why?
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We didn't need them.
They could have died with the
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zombies.
But you know when he's sitting
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there looking and he does this
finger thing like hey, I see you
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and it actually is him shooting
the people.
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I was like, that's so cool and
it's so funny without it being
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over the top or just like, you
know, I I don't know, I like
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that character.
Don't like the fact that, you
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know, they died as well.
But going back to what Anthony
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was saying about the gore, yeah,
there's a lot of gore in this
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one.
But I have to say, maybe because
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it's animated, it didn't hit me
like it would have if it was
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live action gore.
Some of the kills were, I'm
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going to be honest, they were
funny to me.
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Like the whole John Walker thing
was funny.
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Namor getting his head exploded
by Kamala's expanding fist, That
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was hilarious.
Captain America for guarding
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you.
The guy who stopped.
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Listen.
He's only I need.
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Someone to tell Alexi that if
there's only one other person in
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the room, nobody's going to be
singing songs about that.
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Like nobody else is here to
witness.
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And even if they created a song,
who's there to listen?
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Almost everybody is dead.
Just let it go with Lexi.
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Now they almost lost me when
Captain America was behind the
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shield rolling around.
That was funny as yet though,
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that.
Was they almost?
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They almost lost me.
I was like, no, absolutely.
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He's awesome.
I almost, I almost wish that
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that they would have done like a
little tired tired squealing
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sound when he started going
early.
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No, no.
It was already bad enough
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because when the Lexi was, when
the Lexi was tracking him
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through the vents and he was
saying, oh, he's trying to find
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me through the vents.
And he looks down at the floor.
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Captain America is looking at
him and you hear someone say
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Boo.
I could never figure out.
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I was like, is that what did
Captain America say it like, was
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that the one word he could say?
Or was that Alexi, who was like,
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oh, I see you OK, There you are,
Boo.
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But it was just if you, if you
wasn't paying attention, you
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would have missed it.
But I actually had to rewind.
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I was like, wait, did someone
just say Boo?
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And it's like, it's just one
simple word.
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But the way they placed it and
then the the kind of action, it
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was just funny.
I thought it was hilarious, you
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know?
They they almost lost me rolling
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around with this year.
That was awesome.
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I was going to turn this shit
off.
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No, you it was fun.
It was fun.
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But I, I do appreciate that
Marvel must have listened to
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people talk about the first What
if episode with the zombies,
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that there wasn't enough gore.
Yeah, 'cause that's, that's the
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comic book was, was pretty bad.
So I I like the fact that they
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leaned into the gore and the
horror aspect of it 'cause Wanda
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was absolutely terrifying.
Let me tell you and, and it, and
443
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,080
it's so interesting with Wanda's
character because I don't know
444
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:03,640
if you guys saw the interview,
but Elizabeth Olsen was at she
445
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,400
was at a convention a couple of
weeks ago right when Marvel
446
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,240
Zombies dropped and someone
asked her about it.
447
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,360
And she was like, I'm going to
be honest, I don't even remember
448
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,640
what happens in that because I
recorded that like during COVID,
449
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,960
she's like, I know I recorded
it.
450
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,480
I remember doing the line she
said, but I was in my house.
451
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,760
She said we weren't in the
studio.
452
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,840
I was actually in my house
recording these, she said.
453
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,520
So that tells you how long it
takes some of this stuff to come
454
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:37,080
out, especially with animation.
But she was like the zombie
455
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,080
version of her we said was
terrifying.
456
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:46,080
And what if I think the the the
non zombified version of her in
457
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:51,080
this one was more terrifying
because she really, the way that
458
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:56,320
she was talking to Kamala, it's
almost like she was really
459
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,200
trying to convince you that what
she was doing was going to save
460
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,600
everyone.
And I literally had gotten to
461
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,840
the point where it towards the
end when Kamala was like, I
462
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,360
don't have any other choice.
Everybody else is gone.
463
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:12,040
I'm the only one left.
It's something's got to give.
464
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,760
You know, the point where she
gives in.
465
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:18,320
I was at the point as well where
I was like, maybe Wanda's being
466
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,240
sincere.
And I think that's the scary
467
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,040
part because.
The two the two biggest liars in
468
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,760
the show gave people the most
hope and that was Zemo and and
469
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,880
as soon as Zemo opened his
mouth, I turned to the person I
470
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,120
live with, I'm relating to my
marriage.
471
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:35,520
That's it.
He lied.
472
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,400
I.
Knew it.
473
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,400
I was like, there's no, there's
no shot like he's going to be
474
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,840
he's taking a raft and he's just
transporting people.
475
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,040
Nah, Nah, I mean.
The other people, yeah, he
476
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,640
probably was trying to help
because again, one thing about
477
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,080
Zemo and his character that we
explored and, you know, Falcon
478
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:03,200
and The Winter Soldier, Zemo was
trying to do things to kind of
479
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,640
help the little people.
You know, he was like, OK, all
480
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520
these people with all of these
superpowers, they're not
481
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,960
thinking about the smaller
people.
482
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,560
They're not thinking about the.
Consequences.
483
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,600
They're at he, he tells them up
front.
484
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,840
I don't like heroes.
And that's the part I.
485
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,320
Don't like I don't like
superheroes.
486
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Don't like heroes.
And then he's like, Oh yeah, you
487
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,000
guys can come on.
I was like, something's not
488
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,880
right about this.
You know what, I'm just going to
489
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,560
go back to the desert like you
know, y'all go ahead and sail
490
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,080
away.
Right, like we survived five
491
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,160
years against Raiders.
Whatever, we we can do this.
492
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:43,480
But Wanda going back to her, she
was very scary.
493
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,600
And then at the end when she
tells Kamala, you know, she's
494
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,560
like, basically, oh, I can fix
this.
495
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,760
I can, I can, I can make it so
that none of this has happened,
496
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,240
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And of course, Kamala takes her
497
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,960
hand and we see kind of the
world has gone back to normal.
498
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,120
Her friends are there.
And then at the end, you know,
499
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,840
she starts or something starts
glitching to where she's seen
500
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,840
through reality and she can see
Rhode Island, Rhode Island
501
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,880
fighting the zombies, trying to
give her a warning.
502
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,920
Hey, don't believe anything that
you see, it's all fake blah blah
503
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560
blah blah blah.
Yeah, Ruby says I hacked the
504
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,800
signal, she says.
I hacked the signal I'm trying
505
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,520
to get to.
Yeah, right.
506
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,120
It's not real.
The question, the question that
507
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:35,280
I had that Mike, I think Mike
and I, I think I disagree with
508
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,800
it more now that I've watched it
a second time, because
509
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,080
especially in that first
episode, I was wondering.
510
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,440
I said, OK, so was everything
since the Valley of the Gods
511
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,760
fake in Kamala's mind?
Was that was all of that
512
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,760
something that Wanda planted?
And then Mike, was you were
513
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,160
saying that?
No, what?
514
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,840
Tell tell me what you were
saying.
515
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:05,880
Yeah, about.
We find it, you said then how
516
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,120
was I?
I said I think I think
517
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,320
everything happens as it plays
out, but one that gets to her at
518
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,320
the end.
And Wanda tried to get through
519
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,840
it throughout the series, but
like she she had been trying to
520
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,800
get to her because because
Kamala had been having dreams
521
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,040
about about Wanda trying to
reach out to her.
522
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,520
So I think that I think that
Wanda had been trying to get to
523
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,040
her the whole like throughout
the four, throughout the 4
524
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,960
episodes, like he, but she'd
been looking for her because
525
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:37,840
apparently, I think from I think
that that her that there's
526
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,640
something about her quantum
bands that that Wanda needed in
527
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,240
order to control everything and
to and to get control to defeat
528
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800
elemental Hulk and to get
control of everything.
529
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,600
I think that's why she was
looking for her, because the
530
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,520
bands, the band, the power of
the bands is something that she
531
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,560
needed in order to control her.
I think you said, but then how
532
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,760
how is RiRi alive in the
background saying she broke
533
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,200
through Dakota?
I said I'm assuming that hurts
534
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,560
that the same that she injected
in her arm worked and that, you
535
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,320
know, you said that makes sense,
but then that means that she's
536
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,360
been fighting zombies that whole
time by herself.
537
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,400
But yeah, OK, but is yeah, it's
her and her and her teddy bear
538
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,880
Friday robot.
We're we're over there like
539
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,800
getting through they threw.
Me off so bad.
540
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,920
OK, so I agree with the part
about RiRi and her cure and you
541
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,080
know that part.
I think the thing that makes me
542
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,280
doubt whether all of this other
stuff actually happened to
543
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,480
Kamala is in the first episode,
the first time she kind of sort
544
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,400
of has the quote UN quote dream
or the glitch or whatever it it
545
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,280
could have been.
She sees herself standing in the
546
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,040
street, and this is right after
Blade Blade Night rescues her in
547
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,800
the desert.
She sees RiRi and Kate sitting
548
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,600
at a Cafe table, much like they
were at the end of the episode.
549
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,240
And when she calls out to them,
they look at her and they point
550
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,920
behind her.
And this is when she turns
551
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,680
around and she sees Wanda.
So I was wondering if that was
552
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:14,840
the point where Wanda probably
turned on this alternate reality
553
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,320
for Kamala and her quote UN
quote dreaming of Wanda was
554
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:25,600
actually her breaking through
the the simulation, kind of sort
555
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:31,840
of like what was happening in
Wanda Vision, you know?
556
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,880
See, I was thinking, I was
thinking that the the opposite
557
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,360
way.
I think, I feel like she was in
558
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,920
Kamala's head briefly and she
took that dream that she had and
559
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,920
made that the reality of
sticking around at the end.
560
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,560
Does that make sense?
It it wasn't.
561
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,000
It was, it was like, OK, I know
what you want because I've been
562
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,400
in your head.
Well, now I have the power to
563
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,360
give it to you.
So she did it at the end.
564
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,760
She did the whole cafe thing
because she knew that would be
565
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,679
familiar to her, OK, Because
that's part of the manipulation.
566
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:16,440
And I believe she just needed
she needed the Bengal and Kamala
567
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,480
to help her contain the energy
because she couldn't contain it
568
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,080
all by herself.
Right.
569
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,920
I think I think it's more like
the the what if episode that
570
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,360
that really was in where where
our Mysterio like kind of I
571
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,840
think that this is what you're
you're thinking of you, you kind
572
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,800
of feel like it is, if I'm not
mistaken, you couldn't like that
573
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,280
episode where Mysterio was
projecting a whole thing and
574
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,800
fooled re re and re re did
basically like was fooled the
575
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,920
whole time.
Like that's what that's you
576
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,679
think that she was doing it.
But I, I, I don't necessarily
577
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,040
agree with that.
And I feel like, I just feel
578
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,320
like I feel like Wanda was
stalking her the way that she
579
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,240
was stalking America in
multiverse and mad multiverse
580
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:04,240
and madness.
Like like she was, she like she
581
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:08,160
was, she was stalking America to
get her power since that she
582
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,400
could go get her to get her
kids.
583
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,480
So I think I think this is
basically the same thing, except
584
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,320
that Kamala is taking the place
of America and that she she's
585
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,440
trying to get control of
everything.
586
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,800
She's trying to change every
change everything.
587
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,760
And she needs Kamala and her
band for that.
588
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,840
Right.
OK, OK, that that does make
589
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,160
sense.
And this one of those things
590
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,480
where it's like something about
it was bothering me, but it's
591
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,400
like sometimes you have to talk
it out in order for it to make
592
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,120
sense.
Because everything that was I
593
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,800
was like there's and again, this
is Wanda we're talking about.
594
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,640
This is someone who is known to
create other realities that
595
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,440
people believe.
So it's kind of like, OK, did
596
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,840
Kamala, like, dream up all of
these people?
597
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,560
I mean, granted, we know that
these are accurate versions of
598
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,680
these people, but Wanda knows
most of these are probably has
599
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,920
some kind of knowledge of them.
So I was like, yeah, she could
600
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,960
just be planting that.
But OK, that makes a lot more
601
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,920
sense.
Yeah, and and we don't know the
602
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:20,000
full power of the Bengal.
And so 'cause she was also
603
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,280
having dreams of Infinity Hulk
too and Wanda wasn't putting
604
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,120
those in her head.
So I think the Bengal was giving
605
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,720
was also giving her some signals
too.
606
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,480
But she may not have been able
to interpret it or make meaning
607
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,360
of it.
Or maybe maybe maybe Eternal
608
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,240
Hulk needed the Bengal too.
Like the Bengal is the key for.
609
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,440
Was the key for both of them.
Like the.
610
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,240
Bengal, I think, I think he was
fine.
611
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,000
He I think he was doing fine.
He as long as no one bothered
612
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,080
him, he would have been good.
But Wanda.
613
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:57,400
Yeah, but Wanda threw too much
Adam.
614
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:02,760
Yeah, I.
Was kind of I was wondering now
615
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,320
that you guys have mentioned
that Wanda could have placed
616
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,560
that vision in Kamala's head as
well.
617
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,240
Like in one of those things
where, OK, I'm going to make you
618
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,880
dream of this being because I
need you to get the bracelet to
619
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:22,680
this to over here, you know, as
far as Eternal Hulk goes, like
620
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,040
planting that suggestion, like,
oh, this is where I need you to
621
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,120
go because this is where I'm
going to have the most power.
622
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,840
But I'm not going to tell you
that's where I'm going to have
623
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,640
the most power.
But I need you to kind of, you
624
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,240
know, put it, put two and two
together that this is where you
625
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,640
need to go.
Yeah, that's a possibility, but
626
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,760
Wanda seems to be pretty
straightforward.
627
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,760
Wanda.
Wanda knew that she that she
628
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,520
saw.
Because when she Wanda.
629
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,000
Was like, oh, you saw him too.
Yes.
630
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,680
And and then I hear what you're
saying that maybe she playing
631
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,600
Division, but this Wanda version
of Wanda and all Wanda's,
632
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,760
they're pretty straightforward.
Unless they're feeding people
633
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,680
zombies and making them think
it's real food.
634
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,200
Because let's talk about that
feast of new.
635
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,400
Arabs No, she she said she
needed an army.
636
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,840
She she literally said I needed
an army of gods.
637
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,880
How she got there is not
straightforward, but her intent
638
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:20,840
was straightforward.
That was so disgusting because
639
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,160
once you realize what's
happening and she takes the
640
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,960
glamour away, or whatever you
want to call it, I it's
641
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,400
animation.
I felt like I was looking at
642
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,800
this in live action.
Like in my mind, I'm thinking of
643
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:42,240
David Harbour and of Thor, Chris
Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson and
644
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:43,640
all these people in this
scenario.
645
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,480
And I'm just like, Oh my God,
this is the most disgusting
646
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,000
thing.
I was thinking of Fray Pies.
647
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,440
I was just like.
Man, this is just, it's just
648
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,080
like just like how she did in
Multiverse of Madness when she
649
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,360
when she like revealed the whole
like like wilting orchard and
650
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,400
shit.
And I was just like.
651
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,400
Yes.
If y'all can see how it goes
652
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,920
face after I see it Fray pie go.
Go to the YouTube video, you'll
653
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:18,080
see it 'cause I'm disgusted.
Yeah, this version of Wanda is
654
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,400
so diabolical.
Diabolical is the perfect word.
655
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,600
Yeah.
Because like in previous
656
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,840
iterations of Wanda in the live
action, you know, Wanda has been
657
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,080
enemy, she has been friends, she
has been kind of in between.
658
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:42,200
She has been, I don't know.
It's kind of like, you know,
659
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,080
that she's doing wrong things,
but you also have empathy for
660
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,720
because of everything that she's
gone through to get to that
661
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,280
point.
So it's kind of like you don't
662
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,360
really want to look at her as a
bad guy, but you can't look at
663
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,880
her as a, a, a good guy either.
There is a little bit of that
664
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,480
moral wiggle room with her in
this one.
665
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,840
No, it's like you have no
sympathy for her.
666
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,760
You have no understanding for
her, nothing, because she is so
667
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,360
diabolical with it.
And the fact that she like out
668
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,280
of all of this army, out of all
of these people.
669
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,320
She only gives the ability to
speak to one damn person in this
670
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,640
Okoye and Okoye, you know, I,
I'm sorry, Okoye is one of those
671
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,280
generals that people see her and
they know who she is in the
672
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,960
door.
Milaje, they're going to go
673
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,200
follow her.
So naturally you put that person
674
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:49,880
in charge of the whole zombie
horde, but just her period, the
675
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,120
way she talks to Kamala, the way
she's kind of coaxing to her.
676
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,880
And and then it's like almost
immediately she flips the
677
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,120
script.
What's what?
678
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,000
That's that's the scary part of
her.
679
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,040
Because you really want to
believe that, OK, this can't.
680
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,040
Wanda can't be this evil.
She can't be.
681
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:14,080
She was.
In.
682
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,840
Danger at one point.
Michelle Michelle couldn't be on
683
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,920
the podcast tonight, but she did
want to say that they really did
684
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,000
Wanda wrong again.
They just they need to stop.
685
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,960
Yeah, and you know, I thought
about her with all of this
686
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,000
because she is one of those
people who is very staunchly a
687
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,120
Wanda supporter.
As far as you know, they did
688
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,720
Wanda dirty and and they should
not.
689
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,720
Yeah, I I thought about that
because it's like if you're
690
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:47,680
watching this version of Wanda
and we don't know if Wanda
691
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,560
Maximoff is going to show up in
anything else live action.
692
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,280
I think Elizabeth Olson has said
that the character is done, but
693
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,240
we never know.
I mean, Vision Quest just got
694
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:05,160
announced for next summer.
I, I don't know if I can see
695
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,880
them not putting her in at some
point.
696
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,720
But if you're one of the people
like us who watches the TV shows
697
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,040
and the movies and you know that
they are connected, I think it's
698
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,440
going to be hard for us to have
any kind of sympathy for Wanda
699
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:25,800
moving forward because of what
we've seen of her since
700
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,880
Multiverse of Madness.
And I mean, even with Multiverse
701
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,360
of Madness is kind of teetering
on the edge because in the end
702
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,720
she does quote, UN quote,
sacrifice herself in order to
703
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,000
correct the things that she's
done wrong.
704
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:44,000
But it's like.
I don't think, I think I think
705
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,080
that this is kind of the perfect
embodiment of Wanda for like MCU
706
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,120
and comic books, because I mean,
she's the same in the comic
707
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,960
books too.
It's like she, she just is very,
708
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,520
like you said, she's very
straightforward.
709
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,520
Like when she has something to
do, she sets out to do it.
710
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,920
And there's no wavering like she
needs to set, she needs to get
711
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,960
this shit done.
And when she sets her mind to
712
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,640
something, you can't wave or she
doesn't waver from that either.
713
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:16,200
So good or bad, it's like you
can, she's still going to be
714
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:23,960
like really staunch and, and
like stubborn about what she
715
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,240
needs to do and she's going to
keep going forward and doing it.
716
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,400
So I mean, that's just, that's
just, that's just how her
717
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,040
character is.
It's like if her mutants keep
718
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,200
messing with her, she just says,
she says 3 words and mutants
719
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,800
disappear.
It's like she like she's like,
720
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,480
you don't want to mess with her.
But she's still very
721
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,400
straightforward about what she
wants to do.
722
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,960
And she and she rarely, rarely
wavers from it.
723
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:57,040
Right, She's scary, man.
She really is.
724
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,440
But but you know what?
I'm going to be honest, OK,
725
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:09,240
Wanda as the the zombie queen,
she's scary, but also at the
726
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:13,640
same time, we kind of expect
this because we saw this version
727
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,000
of her character and what if so
we know that she can be
728
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,800
terrifying.
It's just the fact that now she
729
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,520
has control over herself.
Whereas in What if?
730
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,760
I don't think she did.
She was just straight zombie.
731
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:31,640
Then she wasn't able to go back
and forth between zombie and her
732
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,120
human self.
Correct.
733
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,280
I.
Don't think, well I I think they
734
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,560
sort of did a blend of the comic
book.
735
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,120
Cause in the comic book they
retain their personalities.
736
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,880
It's just that when the hunger
takes over, they revert.
737
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,400
Yeah, OK.
And that would make sense
738
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,880
because when revision was
feeding her and keeping her
739
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,520
contained.
They cut off pieces of chala
740
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,880
motherfucker.
I wasn't going to mention that,
741
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,120
but.
Sure, I was giving it to Chala
742
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,000
Burgers.
And you notice him fighting with
743
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,400
with with one leg.
He was fighting Thanos bro, that
744
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,360
was.
Like it, like him him, like just
745
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,040
him on all on all threes because
he wasn't on all fours, like all
746
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,520
threes.
Just like galloping towards
747
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,480
them.
I was.
748
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,720
Like.
Laughing and being like, OK,
749
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,000
that's bad ass, but that's kind
of funny.
750
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,720
Like I wanted to laugh.
I was just.
751
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,360
Like I didn't notice that.
That's that's still pretty bad.
752
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,840
And it was really cool that
Peter was like, yeah, he, he
753
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,120
really wasn't doing well
because, you know, his brain was
754
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,960
all screwed up, OK, I guess
being dead.
755
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,480
But then he started figuring
out.
756
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,640
He started figuring out the
stones and that that was kind of
757
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,360
scary.
So let's talk about that, that
758
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,840
episode real quick, because
Peter's commentary at the
759
00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:01,480
beginning of that episode was to
me, again, it was comedy gold
760
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,720
because he's telling, he's
telling us what happened and
761
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:08,800
what if the zombie episodes.
And he was like, yes, I really
762
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,600
like to say that we were able to
do this and we were able to
763
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,760
fight them and, and get
everything done.
764
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,760
But no, that's not what
happened.
765
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,640
And then he goes into the kind
of commentary about what
766
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,000
happens.
And I was just sitting there
767
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,720
like, I don't think I'm supposed
to be laughing.
768
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,280
Like this is a show about
zombies.
769
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,720
People are getting killed left
and right.
770
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:30,720
They're being turned.
This shit was funny.
771
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,640
It was really.
Like you watch Walking Dead, so
772
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,560
it's like you can't you?
You're not even partial to this.
773
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,680
It's like you see zombies, you
just like, whatever.
774
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,520
It's like everyone else is like,
oh man, that's so sad.
775
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,320
You know, it, it's the
characters, these are characters
776
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,680
that I love and I'm, you know,
just watching them kind of be
777
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,320
zombified and, and still being
awesome like a zombie Hawkeye.
778
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,480
The fact that you're still like,
kind of like you said, Anthony,
779
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,320
you still retain a a bit of a
little bit.
780
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,400
So it's like you're a zombie,
but you're still able to
781
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,400
calculate where you need to
shoot these arrows to do the
782
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,640
most damage.
That again.
783
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,080
That's yeah, yeah.
But he he wasn't smart enough to
784
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,280
realize he was shooting a
confetti era.
785
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,440
Yeah.
I don't think he cared.
786
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,320
I think he was just he.
Just wanted to shoot.
787
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,880
He was just shooting I.
Think he was just trying to
788
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,760
shoot.
He was just trying to I don't
789
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,240
know, because being a confetti
arrow, like, I don't know, I
790
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:39,560
mean, if he hits it in the right
spot, they're dead.
791
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:45,680
So yeah, I, I don't know.
But I mean, I think aside from
792
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Wanda being scary, the fact that
the fact that Thor was being
793
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,920
kind of like Infinity War Thor
with the depression with, you
794
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,280
know, just kind of feeling like
a failure.
795
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,320
He should have gone for the head
again.
796
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,800
Rocky would have been alive
instead of instead of fucking
797
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,800
what?
Raised to the bone like that
798
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,440
would they'd have to do that
they didn't have to do like have
799
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,800
his skull roll off after he
after after he got they got shot
800
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,320
by by Thanos.
They traumatized me enough in
801
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,360
Guardians of the Galaxy Three.
I was not ready for that.
802
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,600
I was like bro.
Y'all are cold because.
803
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,560
Actually actually sort of
outline of it, like when he hit
804
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,760
him and the short outline of all
his fur and skin, like coming
805
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:40,680
off of his skills, I was like.
Horrible, horrible.
806
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,280
But again, I I think zombified
Thor is probably the next
807
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,280
scariest thing even I don't
know, I guess even more so to me
808
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:55,480
than than Captain Marvel, if
that's even like, I don't know
809
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,960
if that makes sense, but for
some reason he scared me more,
810
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,240
you know, especially him coming
in.
811
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,520
That's already an iconic
entrance that we've had in live
812
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,800
action.
So you're gonna take that
813
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,160
entrance and bring him in that
way to literally obliterate
814
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,760
everyone?
How dare you?
815
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:21,960
How dare you?
The homie blade night night mean
816
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,840
he did, they did Blade, he did
Blade night there.
817
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,560
But I mean, they showed like the
wall of lightning they heard,
818
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:36,320
they showed him wailing.
But I mean, he is blade.
819
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,240
And I'm trying to, I'm trying
to, I'm trying to have hope
820
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:39,880
here.
Leave me alone.
821
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,520
I'm trying to have I'm trying to
hold on.
822
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,840
I'm holding on.
I'm like he, he could be OK.
823
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:47,840
I mean, country's probably fine.
Country will probably just find
824
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,480
find another.
Avatar.
825
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,280
Find another avatar.
Yeah, like country.
826
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,680
He might be pissed off.
Like, damn, that was one of my
827
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,760
better ones.
Oh well, let me see.
828
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,120
Let me see who else is around
here.
829
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,680
Now country was funny.
When he was talking to Valkyrie
830
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,600
there, he was like.
And it was.
831
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,120
And it was F Murray Abraham
again.
832
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,840
I was like, oh, they got him
back.
833
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:07,960
That was awesome.
I mean.
834
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:14,240
The fact that they got most of
the voice cast back to to do
835
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:18,000
their original role, so that
that was fun as well again, but.
836
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,600
But Hope beat, Hope beat Hope
beat forward to say he did the
837
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,840
ragprock.
I mean, he he beat them down
838
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,240
again.
Yeah, that was.
839
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:31,160
Permanently this time.
Yeah, it was great.
840
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,080
Again, the deaths in this show,
probably because they're
841
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,800
animated.
They they were kind of funny to
842
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,400
me because you're looking at
these characters and of course
843
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,000
these characters are now, I
don't even want to say evil, but
844
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,920
there's zombies.
They're they they're not in
845
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,840
control of their faculties and
they're, you know, basically
846
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,920
trying to kill and eat the the
other people that we like.
847
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,040
And so to see the way that some
of them ended, like, I'm not
848
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,440
going to lie, Ghost that even
watching it in the trailer,
849
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,600
watching it in the show, I was
like, yeah, you know what?
850
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,280
You probably did deserve that.
I mean, it was just great.
851
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:14,800
But also like the way Namor was
killing everyone in that room.
852
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,120
He split that one chick straight
up.
853
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,720
I was just like.
He was splitting everybody like
854
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:25,040
he he was sliced, he was slicing
the dice and like he's the one
855
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,560
that had the sword.
I was like, how, what, how you
856
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,080
fuck with that?
Like, I mean, other than like
857
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,280
putting putting your sparkles in
his in his mouth and turning
858
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,120
into a Mace.
I mean other than that it was
859
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,120
like what?
What else are you gonna like?
860
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,680
He was a he was just scary.
Not only that, it's like he's
861
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,760
strong as fuck and he can he's
fast as fuck and it's like what
862
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,120
you gonna do with that?
It's like.
863
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,080
Nothing.
Like he was, he was really
864
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,840
fucking badass.
Like he was all, he was almost
865
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,640
more badass in this than he was
in what kind of forever.
866
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:01,920
It's like he was just, I mean,
the fact that he, I mean, it was
867
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,000
scared that that shit was just
intimidating.
868
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,440
He was, yeah, he was kind of, he
was kind of scary.
869
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:15,400
But again, funny because Zemo is
sitting in in the raft thinking
870
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,160
he's safe.
He's ejected the heroes.
871
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,240
He was like, yeah, we're going
to let them feed him and we'll
872
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:22,680
be safe.
And as he's saying, you have
873
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,280
nothing to worry about, Namor
comes crashing in behind him
874
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,080
with the cell that he's already
inject ejected.
875
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:35,840
So again, a lot of funny parts
in this whole series that, you
876
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,120
know, I don't know if they were
meant to be intentionally funny.
877
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,280
I I was, I was amused.
I was very amused for all four
878
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,640
episodes.
Something, though, that I
879
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:50,480
figured out early on was that
the single thing was red
880
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,680
herring.
Because if there's one thing we
881
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:59,160
know about the Nova Core that
they don't when when you look at
882
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,840
the Galaxy as a whole, it's
thousands of worlds and
883
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,280
trillions of people.
And we're not going to worry
884
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,240
about and fix this one little
backwater planet, which is
885
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:13,720
already primitive technology.
We're just going to quarantine
886
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:16,960
it and it'll be fine.
And if.
887
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,640
They try to get out.
We're just.
888
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,480
Going to shoot them down, shoot
them down, you know, 'cause you
889
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,080
don't want that, yeah, you don't
want that stuff going, 'cause
890
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,200
the comic book, it actually
does, you know, they actually,
891
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:31,000
the heroes actually do good of,
of the world's in effect other
892
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,800
planets.
Oh, OK.
893
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:38,560
So, but it it, I was like, yeah,
they, yeah, as soon, as soon as
894
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,360
they started to leave, I was
like, yeah, Novocore is not
895
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,520
'cause they're like, they're
like the Green Lantern core of
896
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,600
the MCU, not MCU of.
DC.
897
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,200
Yeah, we have Marvel there.
Yeah, they're gonna corn.
898
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,080
They've been quarantining the
planet.
899
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,840
Yeah, there's a difference
between rescuing and protecting.
900
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,280
It's like they were they were
trying to rescue nobody.
901
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,200
They're trying to protect
everybody else.
902
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,200
Everybody else, yeah.
Because even in Shangxi, like
903
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,200
how long is that ring going to
keep the infection at Bay?
904
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:11,520
Like they don't know about it.
But I'm just saying that's the
905
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,200
whole point.
It's like you can't let anything
906
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,480
off the planet period, because
there's so many unknowns, so
907
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,320
many variables.
It's better just to block the
908
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,880
planet off and, and catch
losses.
909
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,600
They're lucky and and they're
not going to blow it up because
910
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,760
then you have that shit that's
floating around in space.
911
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,720
No, you you just contain it and
and hope for the best.
912
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,880
Yeah.
But when they.
913
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,680
Said when they first mentioned
Nova Core.
914
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,040
I literally look like I don't
think this is going to work
915
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,960
because Nova Core, no, they're
not going to do that.
916
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:52,280
Even from when the first song in
Guardians one, it's like you
917
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,560
look at me like them, those
motherfuckers ain't.
918
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,040
They ain't about shit like.
They're not friendly.
919
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,440
They're not trying to help
nobody.
920
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,000
They're like, yeah, that's a you
problem.
921
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,320
We're going to stay over here
and worry about us.
922
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,440
As long as it doesn't come this
way, we're good.
923
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,600
But the moment you start
creeping into our territory,
924
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:12,560
then we're going to have a
problem.
925
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,520
And yeah, they, they showed
exactly how they deal with those
926
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,960
problems.
They're like, oh, OK, yeah, you
927
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,200
have 10 seconds to turn around
and we're going to set all this
928
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,240
shit on fire.
What?
929
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:29,680
Y'all are supposed to help us?
And I guess, you know what?
930
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:36,680
I guess that's the naivete of
us, because we're like, Oh yeah,
931
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,880
we're so important that we're
going to get people from another
932
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,560
planet, Galaxy, universe to come
and help us out with our one
933
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,880
little problem.
And Nova Core is like, Oh no,
934
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,480
this is so much bigger than you.
See, it's, it's a, it's a
935
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,920
combination of naivete and
desperation.
936
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,800
It's like they're trying to find
anything that to get them out of
937
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,760
this situation.
They get, they're trying to find
938
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,480
like any like little thing of
hope that they can cling to that
939
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,920
they can be like, oh, this is
it.
940
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,240
This is the one thing that can
actually help us get out of
941
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:14,600
this.
And it's like you, you don't
942
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,880
even know.
It's like they're like, what
943
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:16,880
does it do?
Oh, I don't know.
944
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,920
It it sends a beacon.
Oh, that means they can come and
945
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,840
get us.
Like that's not necessarily what
946
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,640
that it's like.
You don't, you don't know.
947
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,480
That's what that means.
It could be a beacon to be like,
948
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,280
OK, we're ready to incinerate
this bitch.
949
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,960
Right.
Do not come here under any
950
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,440
circumstances or let anything
leave this planet.
951
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,640
Or yeah, yeah.
Or it could be a yeah, we got a
952
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,360
problem that we can't fix.
Just come take us out of our
953
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,000
misery now.
Yeah.
954
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,800
You know, and the other thing I
was thinking about this, OK, so
955
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,720
if you're if you're connecting
this to what happens in the what
956
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:56,120
if universe, where the hell is a
lot too in the watchers now,
957
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,840
like a lot too.
He interfered in everything
958
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,640
else.
You can't come stop this.
959
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,200
No, once it once it once it
started.
960
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,280
Why too is probably like, you
know what, let me call the Nova
961
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,960
Core.
Hey, y'all need to come.
962
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,400
That was his intervention.
Y'all need to come and
963
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,640
quarantine this.
No, no, I watch you.
964
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,280
I watch was like, you know what?
I'm not the I am the he's like,
965
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,000
yeah, I'm definitely the watcher
on this month.
966
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,040
This shit.
I'm not.
967
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,200
I ain't doing 'cause I.
Don't want this shit touching
968
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,960
me, No.
Can you imagine a zombie
969
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,720
watcher?
The whole, the whole everything
970
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,560
will be done.
Everything will be done.
971
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,080
Yeah, why, Yeah.
Watch was like, let's just see
972
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,440
how this, let's see how this
plays out.
973
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,920
I'm not gonna go down there
like, 'cause he, he was, he was
974
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,960
in the third episode, like in
the sky.
975
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,360
You it's like, it was real.
It was kind of fast, but you
976
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,880
could see him in the sky, like
looking and watching everything.
977
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,160
Of Marvel Zombies.
Yes, in in this series he was in
978
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,960
there.
Did I miss?
979
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,560
Yeah, I saw.
I watched a couple reactions and
980
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,120
they pointed out I was like oh
shit OK.
981
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,840
So he was, he was there.
Yeah, I think so.
982
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,960
I think it's in 3rd episode.
He was like, OK, I'm trying not
983
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,880
to get in trouble.
In the continuation of What if,
984
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,440
like because remember he he
said, oh, this could be a
985
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,160
problem at the end of the What
if zombie episode.
986
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,800
Yeah.
That's 'cause you saw zombie
987
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,760
Thanos with the with the the
gauntlet and he was like, oh.
988
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,000
So that's that would be that
would be weird because there's
989
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,560
only one wah 2.
There isn't a multiverse of WAH
990
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,840
2.
No, but remember there are other
991
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:40,040
watchers so.
And and watch watch was that was
992
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,280
I mean watch was part of that
continuation because that was
993
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:49,360
because Marvel zombie that that
Peter and Scott's head and and
994
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,400
three and three limb chala are
part of that.
995
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,520
What part of that we?
Did not call him 3 limb chala.
996
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,400
I'm this OK?
3 1/2 limb chala.
997
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,720
I'm sorry.
You know what?
998
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,680
I can't.
I can't.
999
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,320
I can't they're they're, they're
part of that what if continuity
1000
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,440
because that that that's part of
his thing.
1001
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,560
He was there.
So it's it's only it makes sense
1002
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:19,280
that he would be there.
I, I, I was under the impression
1003
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,680
that it's just one.
Why 2?
1004
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,240
So he probably would have just
dipped and be like, yeah, this
1005
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:31,600
this universe is a lost cause.
The the Nova Core guy they
1006
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,720
handled and just.
He's like, no thanks, just
1007
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,800
looking.
Yeah, yeah.
1008
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:36,640
Oh.
Yeah.
1009
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,760
Oh, now you want to just be the
watcher?
1010
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,640
Yeah.
Oh, prop props.
1011
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:46,200
Well, partial props to Wen Wu
for coming to save his son.
1012
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,480
But then, you know, he sounds
like.
1013
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,000
What about everybody else?
It's.
1014
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,920
Like they're not important.
They're not important.
1015
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:01,080
I and I mean, it was, it was, it
was kind of on brand for Wim Wu.
1016
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,760
Yeah, globally on brand.
For but props were coming.
1017
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,640
He he didn't have to.
And for sacrificing himself
1018
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,120
'cause he could.
Have he He didn't necessarily
1019
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,880
sacrifice himself.
He well, I guess he did kind of.
1020
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,400
For Sean, yeah, he did for Sean,
but.
1021
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,320
After called, after found.
Him a fool, so one of soft
1022
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,760
hearted fool I I.
Wish it would have been like
1023
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,760
soft hearted motherfucker.
Well, one of the things that I
1024
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:38,000
did see a lot of online after
these episodes aired, people are
1025
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,840
wondering where the hell is
Shang Shi 2?
1026
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:46,400
Because Marvel has not said that
they're not doing it.
1027
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,440
You know, it's like at at this
point everything that they've
1028
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,880
had in development that are that
is not being done.
1029
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,160
They've kind of told us, OK,
this is not gonna happen.
1030
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,440
This is not gonna happen.
This is not gonna happen.
1031
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,960
Nothing on Shangshi 2.
Can I get my damn movie please?
1032
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,160
Can't.
I mean, cause y'all taking
1033
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,800
everything else.
Y'all still slacking on the
1034
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,560
blade thing.
We supposedly are not getting
1035
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:24,240
another moon night season.
Can I, can I get the one of the
1036
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:29,080
the better characters that you
guys have had in the last couple
1037
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,040
of phases?
Like can't can we get a
1038
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,320
continuation of that story,
please?
1039
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,840
I don't, I don't know.
I have a feeling, I have a
1040
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,320
feeling that there are people
there just saying, you know
1041
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:46,080
what, based on the climate of,
of the real world, we're just
1042
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,440
going to hold off on some things
and just kind of wait.
1043
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,920
Yeah, just like, just like they
did that that that Assassin's
1044
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,680
Creed where where they got where
the assassin was going to be a,
1045
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,720
a slave, like killing off the
clan.
1046
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,920
They were like, then they
stopped it because, you know,
1047
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,000
well, they said, they said
because of the political climb,
1048
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,920
I'm like killing the clan.
So.
1049
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,840
What was the problem with that
synopsis?
1050
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,800
Well, because because they
already had problems with them
1051
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,400
when they tried to bring in.
I'm being facetious.
1052
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,320
I'm being.
Facetious they tried to bring in
1053
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,320
but when they tried to begin
Yasuke they had problems with it
1054
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:28,280
too and they were just like I'm
like y'all they just say what
1055
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,000
you need to say.
But anyway.
1056
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,720
But yeah, I, I, I think that
has, I think that has maybe a
1057
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,520
little bit to do with it.
We'll just keep kicking this can
1058
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,960
down the road as much as we can
and just kind of wait.
1059
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,280
Yeah.
Right, OK.
1060
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,120
Because they haven't officially
cancelled Blade.
1061
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,560
Yeah, they pushed it to us like
there's no push.
1062
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,200
Keep, just keep pushing it.
Just keep pushing it.
1063
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,280
And Mahershala, I did read, said
that he still is very much
1064
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:04,400
interested in doing it so.
Yeah, but we don't want him to
1065
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,320
get to a point where he's 70 and
they're like, oh, OK, we're
1066
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,160
going to we, we finally greenlit
them.
1067
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,120
Now at that point, it was called
Wesley.
1068
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:19,360
He'd be like you, ready to go.
No, because Wesley's older than
1069
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,880
Mahershala.
No, but he looks good though.
1070
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,560
I mean my Hershala does too so
like when he turns 70 he could
1071
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,800
still be in fit shape but it's
just.
1072
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,320
Like Bladen nursing.
I just need them to to figure
1073
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,400
out what the hell they doing.
So, so I think a lot of us who
1074
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,840
really, really enjoyed this
Marvel Zombies, there was a lot
1075
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,840
of these are characters that we
we have wanted to see and want
1076
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,040
to see again and can't wait to
see again.
1077
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,680
And so I think there's a lot of
that involved in it too.
1078
01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:01,800
Yeah, because I mean, as much as
I love Moon Night and I love
1079
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,600
that character, I really want
them to come back for a second
1080
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,040
season because I need to know
what's going on with who.
1081
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,720
Was it Mark?
No.
1082
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,760
Yeah, Mark.
Was it Mark at the end?
1083
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,760
Yeah, no, that's.
Wait, who?
1084
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,400
The the assassin not Mark, not
not.
1085
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:25,760
Steven Steven J No.
I can't remember the name right
1086
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,320
now.
I, I want to see what happens
1087
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,240
with that character.
I, you know, Moonlight I feel
1088
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:37,000
like was one of the better
projects that they came out
1089
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,920
with.
I really enjoyed it.
1090
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,920
I really want to see that
character again.
1091
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,280
Now as far as the Eternals go,
we know we're not getting
1092
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,440
Eternals in live action, but if
y'all want to throw them in some
1093
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,080
other projects like y'all have
done the animation, I wouldn't
1094
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,280
be mad at that.
I really.
1095
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,200
Only only if they could figure
out a way to bring Icarus back.
1096
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,520
Well, yeah, that too.
Yeah, only if they could just
1097
01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:59,880
see the thing about.
Jacob.
1098
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,160
Jacob.
That's him, but. 00 And how
1099
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:11,800
terrifying is a zombie ghost?
Like how freaking scary is that?
1100
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,560
She would have been even more
scary if Blade Night wasn't
1101
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,920
there.
Blade Night was like, oh, let me
1102
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,360
sit here and figure out your
thing.
1103
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,440
Oh, OK, gotcha.
I was like, oh boy.
1104
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:27,640
Did you notice how his costume
turned started becoming more and
1105
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:32,400
more black because he was more
blade than he was moonlight?
1106
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,400
Because that that is a skill
that he has.
1107
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:42,000
Yeah, but I mean, I would, I
would even love to see like you
1108
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,680
had Blade show up at the end of
Eternals talking to Dane
1109
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,960
Whitman, who was going to be
what?
1110
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,120
Was the.
Black.
1111
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:57,160
Knight so I mean you already
you're already teasing both of
1112
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,280
those characters.
I don't mind seeing the bland
1113
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,160
that I would still love to see
Kate Harrington be able to do
1114
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,080
what he was supposed to do, but
I already know we're not going
1115
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,120
to get that so and.
Oh oh oh and it also helps
1116
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,360
because all of the fanboys
online were a little bit
1117
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:17,520
upsetting how quickly Wesley
Snipes Blade dispatched Azazel
1118
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:22,880
and like 20 seconds in Deadpool
and Wolverine.
1119
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,160
Oh, it's.
The same thing.
1120
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,640
That's that's what he does like,
that's his job.
1121
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:34,520
Yeah.
So he kills demons and vampires
1122
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:39,440
who apparate and disapparate
everywhere and turn invisible.
1123
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:40,440
He.
Right.
1124
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,600
So Ghost was like, she was
nothing to him.
1125
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,640
Yeah.
I mean, she was badass 'cause
1126
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,800
she took out all of the
daughters, she took out all the
1127
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:54,520
widows like nothing.
But they weren't, you know, they
1128
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,440
weren't necessarily trained to
deal with someone of ghost
1129
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,280
caliber.
Yeah, they, they don't deal.
1130
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,480
They don't deal with things that
go bumping the night on a daily
1131
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,800
basis.
Yeah, Natasha, I think Natasha
1132
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,520
is the only one.
And now Elena may be a little
1133
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:12,960
bit so.
But yeah, I I want to see these
1134
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:17,680
characters again.
I think they said they're
1135
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,040
they're leaving it open as far
as whether they're going to do a
1136
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,760
second season of Marvel Zombies.
I don't think there are plans to
1137
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,640
do it.
But of course the ending of it
1138
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,480
kind of left it open-ended like,
OK, yeah.
1139
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,640
So this is something we.
Can and it's not.
1140
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,560
This is wide open.
Yeah, so I don't know if we'll
1141
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,400
see them back.
John Walker just got torn apart
1142
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,200
in my background.
It's.
1143
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,600
All we can do is is tell people,
tell people to watch it because
1144
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:54,200
Disney's going to look at the
numbers and if if it doesn't hit
1145
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,520
that magic number of people.
Watching whatever that magic
1146
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,400
number.
Whatever that magic number is,
1147
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,840
they're not going to do it that
season.
1148
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:06,480
Like they announced that season
3 of X-Men and we haven't.
1149
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,240
They haven't even released
season 2 yet.
1150
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,760
X-Men 90970 and Daredevil Born
Again has been renewed for
1151
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,680
season 3 already.
So they must hit the magic
1152
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,600
number.
Yeah, so I mean, or just the
1153
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,560
people want it, you know, and
I'm gonna be honest, we, we
1154
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,080
haven't talked about Daredevil
Born Again yet because I
1155
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:31,000
literally just got into like
Daredevil earlier this year.
1156
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:38,200
I was kind of, I was kind of
lukewarm on season 1 of
1157
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,359
Daredevil Born Again.
You know, it's like I got to the
1158
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:45,880
point where I like the
characters, but I don't know.
1159
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,720
And I it could just be the
whole, I don't know.
1160
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,359
I kind of feel like Daredevil
was in his.
1161
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,760
I feel like he was in his Edward
Cullen phase.
1162
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,479
Like, yes, this is what I want,
but I'm so bad for you.
1163
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,920
I'm going to stay over here.
Like the way that he was with
1164
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,120
Karen, especially after what
happened with Froggy, it's just
1165
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:12,000
kind of, he was, you know, he
had gotten to the point where he
1166
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,120
was like, I'm not going to do
this anymore.
1167
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,760
I'm not going to be this this
hero anymore because people keep
1168
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,640
getting hurt.
I keep losing people.
1169
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,600
And, you know, that whole
existential crisis and it just
1170
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:28,439
got to a point where I was just
like, can you stop complaining?
1171
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,240
Just go kick some ass.
Just just do it.
1172
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,520
I mean, I don't know.
It wasn't bad.
1173
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,279
It wasn't bad.
It's just I think I was
1174
01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:43,880
expecting more and then because
you didn't have Karen and Foggy
1175
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,680
in that first season.
I don't know.
1176
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,840
Especially coming off of the
original series because I
1177
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:56,200
literally went from watching the
original series and then into
1178
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,720
that went.
And also probably because I
1179
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,280
didn't watch the other defender
shows in between.
1180
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,600
So I think there are some things
that I was missing.
1181
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:10,720
It was just, I wanted to love it
and I didn't like, I liked it.
1182
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,400
I'm excited that there's a
second season coming out.
1183
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:18,800
I love, I love the characters.
It was, I don't, I don't know.
1184
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,560
It's just, I don't know,
Something about it just didn't
1185
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:28,000
strike with me, but I'm, I'm
probably in the in the minority
1186
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,840
of that as well.
You know, there are other people
1187
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,120
who've been wanting for that
character come back.
1188
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,920
So that could be where they're
getting those numbers from or
1189
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,640
where they're getting that
momentum.
1190
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,440
Like, oh, OK, we haven't even
aired season 2 yet, but let's go
1191
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:45,000
ahead and renew for season 3.
The buzz must be there.
1192
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:48,280
You know, I I just needed to
pick up for some of these other
1193
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:53,720
characters because I know there
are people who are mixed as far
1194
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,680
as some of the things that have
come out in the MCU since end
1195
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,360
game.
But some of these characters are
1196
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,960
really good characters.
Some of these stories are really
1197
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,640
good stories and I really feel
like they deserve a chance to
1198
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,640
grow into something before it's
just one movie and oh, we're
1199
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,760
just done with them.
Like you're not even giving them
1200
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,800
a chance to find their footing.
You.
1201
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,840
Know I know what we won't see
again.
1202
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,000
We won't see another Secret
Invasion.
1203
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,640
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Please.
1204
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,360
I, I, I don't.
I'm good on that.
1205
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,080
I don't need to see nothing else
about that shit.
1206
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,480
No, no the.
Only thing I need to see is
1207
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,960
what's your name?
What's the name character?
1208
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:41,720
The what's the the the two the
two women characters who were
1209
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,760
like the best part of that whole
series.
1210
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:49,480
Of Secret Invasion.
Yeah, like what's her name?
1211
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:50,400
What's the name?
The.
1212
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:56,280
Gia.
Like tear like when a guy or and
1213
01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:00,360
the older, the older lady that
was like a you know, what's her
1214
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:01,680
name?
I can't think of her name.
1215
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:02,880
Yeah.
Oh, I'll tell you.
1216
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,640
Gia, Gia, Yeah.
And.
1217
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:10,360
Parks character.
Like like the one, the one that
1218
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,480
was like the director that was
like all sarcastic and shit
1219
01:12:13,480 --> 01:12:15,640
like.
Oh yeah, I know who you're
1220
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,720
talking about.
Yeah, but like those those two
1221
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,920
characters I care about in that
series, I think everyone else
1222
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,040
can go fly.
Go fly a fucking kite.
1223
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,760
I can give a fuck, more or less.
I I I can take it or leave it.
1224
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,040
But the worst, the worst thing
that series did was kill Maria
1225
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,160
Hill.
That that was the worst thing.
1226
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,120
So if y'all want to bring, if
y'all want to correct that and
1227
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,280
bring and, and bring her back
like I, I don't know what y'all
1228
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,680
can do.
Maybe that wasn't even Maria.
1229
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,120
Maybe that was a score.
I I don't know, I don't care.
1230
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,040
Bring Maria Hill back because
yeah, that was the worst thing
1231
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:53,720
that they could have done.
But yeah, but you know, going
1232
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:58,960
getting back to the zombies.
I actually, I, I really did
1233
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,920
enjoy this series.
I, I think I enjoyed this much
1234
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,040
more than I did What If season
3.
1235
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:10,560
And again, because What If
season 3, I think for me kind of
1236
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,360
felt disjointed because you had
kind of like a running story
1237
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,480
with the first two seasons and
then you kind of only sprinkled
1238
01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:19,640
that here and there in the third
season.
1239
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,040
Third season was more of an
anthology and because that's not
1240
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:28,080
what I was expecting, I think my
expectations weren't met With
1241
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,360
this show.
Everything is kind of cohesive.
1242
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:35,520
Everything runs together.
There's one story, one thread
1243
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,040
that's running through and even
carrying over from the Marvel
1244
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:44,160
Zombies episodes of What If?
I just, I felt like it was
1245
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,520
better.
And then, you know, again, one
1246
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,880
of the things I love about the
MCU is what they do with
1247
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,600
relationships and just not just
romantic relationships, just
1248
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,920
relationships in general, having
people that you never expect to
1249
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,960
see together and fighting on the
same side or being friends or
1250
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:06,440
having that kind of camaraderie.
They do it very well in the MCU
1251
01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:08,360
and in the animation is no
different.
1252
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,600
That was one of the things I
loved about What If, and that's
1253
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,200
one of the things I love about
this one.
1254
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,360
It just sucks that most of them
ended up dying before the end of
1255
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,160
it.
But you know, I mean, this is
1256
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,000
zombie apocalypse.
What do you expect?
1257
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:22,920
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
1258
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:29,000
But so is this something that
you would want to see more of,
1259
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:34,200
even though it's zombies,
Anthony, but just story wise in
1260
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,960
general, is this something that
you would be interested in
1261
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:42,920
continuing, especially given the
kind of cliffhangery, you know,
1262
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:47,520
finale?
I mean, I kind of, I'm, I'm kind
1263
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,000
of OK with the story and how
it's going.
1264
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,600
So I think I, I, I mean, I would
like to see the story in.
1265
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:58,760
So I hope they do a season 2
because I kind of like the idea
1266
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,120
of, of RiRi having come up with
a, a cure, right?
1267
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:09,200
Number one, Well, maybe not a
cure, but sort of like a is the
1268
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,880
vaccine.
I guess it would be a treatment
1269
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,280
really, because she did it after
she was bitten.
1270
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:19,960
So it it'll be cool to see that
and what she meant by hacking
1271
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,480
the single.
And we know where Wanda, but
1272
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:24,440
she's doing what she did to the
as guardians.
1273
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:28,000
You know, she's making
everything look a certain way
1274
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,160
and be a certain way for
everybody, which is not really
1275
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,840
fixing the problem.
So you're you're right.
1276
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,640
It's it's just like what she did
in Westview.
1277
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,440
It's the same thing, just on a
larger scale.
1278
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,920
Yeah.
OK.
1279
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,240
Mike, what about you?
It's something you would like to
1280
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:48,040
continue.
Yeah.
1281
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:57,400
I, here's the thing, I wouldn't,
I, I want to see more of 'cause
1282
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,320
I wouldn't, I'm, I'm not sure if
I want to see more of the zombie
1283
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,280
stuff.
I want to see more of the things
1284
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,840
that they've shown in here.
Like the first episode was
1285
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,680
basically a Young Avengers
teaser.
1286
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,920
I mean, it's like with with with
the three of with Miss Marvel,
1287
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,920
RiRi and Kate Bishop is
basically young, young Young
1288
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,880
Avengers teaser.
I'm like, just give me fucking
1289
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,720
Young Avengers already.
Because they're going to be,
1290
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,560
they're going to be regular.
Old Avengers in a minute.
1291
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,560
Yeah, they're.
Going to be old family Avengers
1292
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,080
and shit.
I'd love to see, like you said,
1293
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:32,840
I'd love to see moon night go on
moon night.
1294
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,960
I still want to see Blade.
Well, I want to see this.
1295
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,880
See, I am curious to see how
this ends, how it turns out.
1296
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,600
But I'm thinking that I mean,
this is like a zombie story.
1297
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,480
So I'm not expecting it.
I'm not really expecting a happy
1298
01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:50,520
ending out of this.
Yeah, it's like I'm I'm kind of
1299
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:55,280
expecting either Earth's gonna
be torched or once gonna leak
1300
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,800
through on a ship and or go
through the quantum realm
1301
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,680
because we have to remember in
the in the in the what if
1302
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:06,640
episode, she would wasn't a wasp
was infected in the quantum
1303
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,560
realm.
So who's to say that there's not
1304
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,760
another, not a whole fleet of
Quantum Realm zombies somewhere
1305
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,760
coming through somewhere?
Oh, that would be horrible.
1306
01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:20,320
So it was like, can you, I mean,
can you really stop zombies in
1307
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,720
the quantum realm from going
wherever the fuck they want to?
1308
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,680
And and other than RiRi and
Kamala, is there anyone left?
1309
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,000
Like is there anyone left to
save?
1310
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,640
We, I mean, it could be it's
like we don't, we only really
1311
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,280
focused on a small, we only
focused on America and it's
1312
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:43,680
basically America and part of
Norway wherever, wherever New
1313
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,320
Asgard is, that's those are only
two places that we've been.
1314
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:53,840
OK, Yeah.
And and and and the the Wizard
1315
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,880
Wakanda Wakanda and Karp Kermit
cards.
1316
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,360
Those are the only things.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
1317
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,440
Those are really only the only
things that we.
1318
01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:09,120
Yeah.
And we're saying what they're
1319
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,680
doing in tallow.
Where's Santi's?
1320
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,560
Where's Santi's?
Where is she?
1321
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:14,960
That's what I just literally
said.
1322
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,240
I said.
I wonder what they're doing over
1323
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,560
in tallow.
Yeah, they're, they're not
1324
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,560
opening those.
They're not opening the the
1325
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,120
portals under there.
Oh.
1326
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,680
Absolutely not.
That's that's a.
1327
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,440
Whole other that looks like a.
New problem like eat everybody
1328
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:32,160
trying to come in there.
So it's like, you know, trees
1329
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,280
can't turn into zombies, so
they're fine.
1330
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:35,640
They ain't got worried about
shit.
1331
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,480
Yeah.
And obviously no one's got the
1332
01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:42,520
brains to figure out the pattern
anyway, so.
1333
01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:45,520
True.
Yeah.
1334
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:51,840
Yeah.
OK, but it's it's kind of like,
1335
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:59,240
OK, so if RiRi has a cure or if
she has a way to fix things,
1336
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,320
what does that look like?
Like does that mean that she
1337
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,560
cures all the people who are
zombies and still walking
1338
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,680
around?
So what does that mean when when
1339
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:13,000
she cures everyone, will Captain
America die anyway since he only
1340
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,440
has half a body?
Like I.
1341
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:18,360
Don't.
I don't think it's I don't think
1342
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,640
it's a cure.
I think it's a treatment for
1343
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,120
bites.
Like she may be able to save
1344
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,720
Shang Shi OK.
So she can save the people who
1345
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:31,680
are currently alive, but not
necessarily turn the zombies
1346
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,080
back or.
I think.
1347
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,960
It's they're dead.
Like, I think, I think if I
1348
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,200
don't think she can, she can
make people revert from being a
1349
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,120
zombie.
I think like if it's like a
1350
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,800
battle, it's like a battlefield
cure.
1351
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,880
It's like if someone gets
bitten, she's like, oh, they're
1352
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,040
like oaks.
It's like those people, they're,
1353
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,720
it's.
Like EpiPen, like if you're, if
1354
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,080
you're having, if you're having
reaction, you just go and you're
1355
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,000
good.
That's that's basically.
1356
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,000
They're the cane.
They're the cane.
1357
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,840
They're walking around the the
cane.
1358
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,800
They're dead, OK.
Yeah.
1359
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,120
Yeah.
Well, OK.
1360
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,720
Yeah, OK.
They ain't coming back.
1361
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:14,840
They ain't no, they ain't come
if they.
1362
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:19,480
Captain America is not that that
that ass is not walking through
1363
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:20,840
the door.
It's just not.
1364
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,280
Awesome, his legs trying to
keep.
1365
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:30,840
His ass is gone also.
I want I want to see what.
1366
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,220
Happened because because wasp
was getting ready to bite spider
1367
01:20:33,220 --> 01:20:36,040
man in half I'm like you can't
do my boy like that like damn it
1368
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,920
like y'all got.
I got to figure out whatever
1369
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:42,360
happened when she when her and
when Wanda and Miss Marble held
1370
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:47,520
hands and that and whatever kind
of explosion or or shockwave
1371
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,480
went back through everything.
Like I want to see what I do
1372
01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:54,360
want to see what happened to
that, because I mean, I mean,
1373
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,320
maybe she just froze everything
in time.
1374
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,600
Maybe she just like she put or
she froze, she like.
1375
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,520
She stuck a pen in it and was
like, we'll come back to this.
1376
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,600
Right, 'cause she figured that
shit out.
1377
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,760
I have, I have forgotten that.
That's how vision saved Scott.
1378
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,680
He got his head off his body.
I did too.
1379
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,240
I was like, wait, what?
I was like, oh, that's right.
1380
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,880
Yeah.
But OK.
1381
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:26,200
So overall, we all enjoyed it.
We all enjoyed the series and
1382
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,880
overall we would not be opposed
if they decided to do a Season
1383
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,040
2.
Yeah, OK.
1384
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,120
Alright, well, unless I mean, do
you guys have any final thoughts
1385
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,880
or is there anything else?
Shout out to Shout out to Marvel
1386
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,240
continuing to please Hanukkah by
throwing Eternals things in
1387
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,920
everything that they do.
I mean, I'm.
1388
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,160
I'm never going to apologize for
liking that movie The third time
1389
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,000
that they.
This is the third time that
1390
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,640
they've thrown and thrown an
Eternals reference in something
1391
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,080
that something new that they've
done.
1392
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,960
So I'm like, why don't I just go
ahead and defy, defy everybody
1393
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,400
and just do Eternals too, or
just do Eternals too as a four
1394
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:09,360
part episode or just like, yeah,
I mean, just it was just, I mean
1395
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,640
give people that apparently
either they really want.
1396
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,880
Give me what I want.
I'm the.
1397
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:17,480
People give me what?
I want.
1398
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:23,160
My my final thought is, is
Icarus really just trying to
1399
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:27,640
make sure she doesn't wake up
the?
1400
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,400
Oh man, wake up, wake up, wake
up.
1401
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:37,960
TMX because if she does, can
Wyla turn him into a zombie?
1402
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,720
Probably.
And if she turns the celestial
1403
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,200
into a zombie, I mean, he's
going to turn the other ones
1404
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,720
into zombies, nobody would be a
problem.
1405
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,960
Yeah, you're exactly right.
Terrifying.
1406
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:54,920
To think about.
And on that note, that's it,
1407
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,520
unless you had anything else to
say, Anthony.
1408
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,800
No, I think I've disturbed
myself for the night.
1409
01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:08,200
Yeah, I'm good.
OK, and on that note, that is it
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01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,480
for our show.
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1412
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1413
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1415
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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode
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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here
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with Anthony and Mike and we are
discussing Marvel Zombies and
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it's been a while since we've
done a show.
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It's we've been a little busy,
but OK, we're going to get
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started on this because Anthony
has already let us know that he
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was not a huge fan and I just
want to go ahead and get the
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negative voice out.
No, I'm just joking.
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No, seriously.
No, I, I mean it, it was, it was
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OK for the first hurdle.
This, like every time Marvel
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Zombies comes up, is the fact
that it's zombies.
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It's zombies and you don't
really.
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Like that, you don't really do
zombies.
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And, you know, on top of I don't
really like gore and I just,
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I've never been a fan of zombie
stuff.
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Yeah, the person.
Because you're a horror person.
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But I think we've had this
conversation.
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We've had this conversation
before, yeah.
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The, the person I live with whom
I'm related to my marriage said
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it's, it's interesting because
it's not that you don't really
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like zombies because there's
zombie things.
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They're zombie adjacent.
They're like like Days of Us is
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sort of kind kind of zombie
adjacent.
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World War Z is kind of zombie
adjacent.
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So you're not.
Zombie adjacent it is zombie.
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Lone Zombie.
Like like it's the zombies that
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run after your ass, like it's
the.
28
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Zombies on speak.
They're not.
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It's a virus.
And they're not they're not dead
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people coming back to life.
They're they're living people
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who are being converted, OK?
That's why I said zombie
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adjacent.
They say it wasn't zombie,
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zombie adjacent.
And and The Last of Us is
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mushrooms And and they, and the
lore of that show says that the
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people are still alive.
You kill the people.
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They're they're they're just
trapped inside their brain.
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They can't do anything right.
OK, so I mean, there's a lot of
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nostalgia in it, so I understand
why people like it because
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there's a lot of characters we
want to see again, a lot of
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characters we miss a lot of
combinations.
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That's very familiar.
But it was like we took end game
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and trying to chopped it up,
screwed it and spit out
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something kind of different and
and it was it was it was it was
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mild.
It was it was OK.
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I was able to watch all four
episodes and not be completely
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turned off.
Moon as as Mike's name, Blade
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Night, Best thing, you know,
best thing, absolutely best
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thing and.
The.
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Thing it threw me off about that
they had Blade Night looking
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like Mahershala Ali.
That was not Mahershala.
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It was.
Voicing him, but he sounded
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like.
He sounds like him.
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Yeah, it threw me off so much
watching this, but I'm sorry, go
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ahead.
And, and the last thing is I,
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I've spent 3 or 4 episodes in my
head trying to work out the
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Icarus and Captain Marvel fight.
So I was more interested in that
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than I was anything elf in Blade
Night, of course.
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But OK, Icarus and Captain
Marvel, I would pay money to
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watch that for an entire
episode.
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Right.
And you can give that to me in
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live action too, because I think
the thing that I really liked
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about this show is the fact that
they, like you said, they kind
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of chopped and screwed what we
know about the the Marvel
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Cinematic Universe and the
characters in it.
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So like, for the most part, most
of the bad people or the people
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that we look at as like the
villains or the the morally
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ambiguous ones, they were the
ones who for the most part was,
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were were trying to do things
right or we're trying to save
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people.
And then it was the heroes,
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except for the ones that were
alive still, who were the
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zombies and who were trying to
destroy everything.
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And I thought that was very
interesting.
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But yeah, the the the fight in
the what was it the Valley of
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the Gods that really interested
me because when I was watching
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this, of course, I didn't know
who all was going to show up in
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this show.
You know, who the main
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characters were.
And given the fact that they
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tell us in the last episode or
the third episode that this
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really that this is a
continuation of the Marvel
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Zombies episodes from what is
you kind of get an idea of who's
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in it.
But like, when Icarus showed up
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on the screen and I saw him, I
was like, I was very glad
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because again, I'm one of the
few people who actually enjoyed
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the Eternals and would like to
see more of these characters.
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And the fact that he was the one
who was trying to not
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necessarily save planet Earth,
but he was trying to keep
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Captain Marvel from getting out
into the universe and affecting
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other planets with whatever this
zombie virus, whatever it is.
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I thought that was really
interesting.
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And like you said, these are two
powerful beings who cannot beat
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each other.
They're just throwing each other
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around.
It's kind of like it's almost
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like the whole we could we're
going to do, we're going to be
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at this all day.
I'm thinking legal of
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extraordinary gentlemen, Dorian
Gray and and Mina, when they're
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going back and forth, they're
like, OK, you can't die.
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I can't die.
We're just going to be doing
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this.
We might as well be here all
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nights.
So.
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And because at first I was like
Thunder, lightning, that that
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has to be like Thor and Storm or
somebody.
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And then when I saw Ichris was
like, oh, snap.
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That was like the only time I
did that during the whole.
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So I was like, oh, OK.
And then yeah, he's either
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keeping her on Earth or keeping
her from just obliterating
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everybody.
Right?
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Yeah.
But I thought because she didn't
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look like she was interested in
leaving because she kept going
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after the the.
Trio, yeah.
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Yeah, so I, I think if she had
tried, if she had wanted to
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leave, she was trying to hard
out.
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But I don't know if she wanted
to leave, right.
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But I know he didn't want her
running rampant because, you
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know.
She was destroying some shit.
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She was missing stuff up, yeah.
Right, right.
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So, oh, I mean overall it was
OK, like, you know, out of
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course I'm not going to watch it
again, but that's this is me.
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The only like real critique I
have is they should just went
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all out and threw some X-Men in
there, threw some mutants in
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there.
But you know, it is what it is.
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And see, that's kind of what I
thought would happen, especially
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in that first episode when they
were driving through the valley
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because they kept talking about
the storms.
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So I was like, oh, are they
going to bring storm into this?
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And I thought about, I was like,
I don't know if they would do
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that because it would kind of, I
guess veer off.
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I think I would expect her more
if it was a what if Marvel
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zombies episode.
But given the fact that even in
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what if they didn't throw her in
until like the last what couple
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of episodes?
Then I, you know, I was kind of
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looking at it like, it's very
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was like, maybe not.
And then like you said, when
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Icarus shows up, I was like, oh,
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her, like it's a zombified
Captain Marvel, probably the
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most terrifying scenario you can
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Somebody who is that powerful
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Now, I would still say Wanda is
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Yeah, Captain Marvel.
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when she got out, you're like,
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Oh yeah, things about to be
messed up.
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Yeah, OK.
But it it it, it was OK.
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I I was fine.
There were some things I like.
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Like I like the Guardians being
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He was still funny, but he
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Yeah, I like it.
It's really touchy in.
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This one.
Yeah, but I was talking about
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him specifically.
He was dialed back and there
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A lot of the relationship
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Molina was all pretty touching
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so.
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I, I am a little bit disturbed
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nowhere in this, though.
That kind of bothers me, you
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know, especially, you know,
coming off of the relationships
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know, just kind of seeing
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Yolena's reaction to Natasha's
death and Hawkeye.
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was just like, can we just get
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like Natasha with her family
just a little bit?
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Either that or she or she was in
the in the first wave of of
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Avengers that got turned like in
the what if and what if zombies
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when they went went to San
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Like there's a good chance she
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of people get earned so.
I just figured I'm like since
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y'all are since y'all are kind
of referencing what if?
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What if Natasha didn't die?
How about that?
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I think I'm just still a little
bitter about the whole Natasha
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dying period.
So I'm I'm just a little yeah, I
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still have feelings about that.
But.
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Well, there's always hope.
Remember, there's a Natasha
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who's still alive in the
universe that didn't have a
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Natasha.
So.
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That that is true.
That is true.
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But Mike, what were your
favorite part?
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So what were your thoughts about
about the the series in general?
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Oh, oh, oh, oh.
He's cracking his knuckles.
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No, I like Anthony.
I'm not a big zombie guy.
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Like I'm not.
I just don't.
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I don't necessarily like being
scared.
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I don't like, I don't like jump
scares at all.
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Like I'm not.
No, don't do that to me, but I
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throw I I won't say I thoroughly
enjoyed it, but I I really like
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this.
I I like everything that they
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did.
I mean, of course the blade
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night is like the first thing,
like I that just blew my mind,
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like his swordplay, like I wish
they hadn't put that sword fight
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between that brief sword fight
between him and ghost.
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I wish they hadn't, because I
knew what's going to happen is
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still fucking bad ass.
But there's like all that
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happened in the first episode.
Like I was like, OK, I really, I
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enjoyed, I enjoyed Chong Chi.
I I really kind of enjoyed Chong
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Chi in this episode.
I thought, I thought it was
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creative as fuck how they listed
how they did the 10 rings
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stopping, stopping him from
turning into a zombie.
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Like I thought I was like, I
never would have thought that
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they could use the rings like
that.
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I was just like, OK, that's
actually pretty cool.
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OK, so I don't know what this is
called.
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I don't know if there's a term
for it, but I call it like
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tragedy corps where they where,
you know, they give like a
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character like in in all
disaster movies.
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You know, there's a moment like
in Titanic, there's a moment
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where they're playing, playing
the where the quartet's playing,
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playing and the old couples on
the bed, like huddled up and
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waters rushing past them.
And it's like, again, deep
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impact, I think it's deep
impact.
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There's like T and Leonie and
her father standing on the beach
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when the tidal waves getting
ready to come and crash over
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them and stuff.
And it's like those moments,
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like, I don't know, it's, it's
something about those moments
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that get me this like I look at
him and I'm like, Oh my God.
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Like I'm getting like emotional,
but actually kind of like those.
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It's like, in a weird way, I
kind of like those.
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It's like, I call it tragedy
corps.
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It's like, like I'm like, OK,
I'm, I don't necessarily like
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it, but it's like, I love seeing
human elements in things like
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this.
You know, I'm saying it's like,
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like people who are like
showing, showing, showing an
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emotional side when someone's
dying, like, like Elena giving
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herself up for everybody.
Like I've, I've poor, poor
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Lexie.
I mean, first he loses, he loses
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the mother, like, and then he
loses Elena and then he eats.
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He's fucking zombie fingers
Instead.
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I was like, oh come.
Can we circle?
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Can we circle back to that
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Yes, we we can because Oh my, I
think that was probably the most
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disturbing part of of this whole
thing.
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But yes, we will circle back to
that later.
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Also, like the shock, the shock
of like, like Kate Bishop, like
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dying like that, like in the
mid, like they did her dirty.
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I'm like, OK, you would give
her, give her her confetti arrow
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and then have her just get
completely fucking obliterated.
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Like I was just like, what?
And the fact that OK, also the
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fact that apparently RiRi has a
cure for all of this.
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Like she has a she has a zombie
cure because apparently in the
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end, she's still alive and she's
trying to get trying, trying to
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contact Miss Marvel and tell her
that everything is everything is
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an illusion.
She's figured it out and she's
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trying to get in contact with
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Like, OK, we're going to circle
back to that because I have
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questions about that.
Because yeah, we had this
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discussion in Messenger.
So yes, I realized that.
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But oh, I, I, I reasonably
enjoyed it.
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There were a couple of moments
that was just kind of like, like
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me, but I mean, Eternal Hulk was
pretty bad ass.
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I was, I was like, OK, yeah.
That that that's an interesting
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solution to all of that.
I like how they handled handle
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T'challa without actually having
having to, you know, have
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someone.
So that voice actor?
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Yeah.
I thought that was, you know,
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and actually in Anthony's face,
he has something to say about
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that.
But.
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I don't.
OK, cool.
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But but I like how I like how
they continued it even though it
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was like, it's weird how I did
it in 4 episodes to me kind of
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felt like 6, like somehow like
like like even though they're
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like, I felt like there were
distinct different parts of this
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where it could have been like 6
or 8 episodes, but they kind of
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condensed.
They kind of like reduced it
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down to like a few important
things.
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They felt longer because I think
there was, there was so much
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going on in them.
Like you really didn't have a
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lot of a lot of lows in the
episodes or a lot of slow
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moments.
And even the slow moments there
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were, there were things, there
were things going on.
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There was dialogue, there was
exposition and there was, you
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know, like again, there, there
was the comedy, there was the,
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the relationship building.
So it it did feel a little bit
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longer.
Yeah, and I I'm glad they
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brought back Wu.
I don't know why.
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Like he that just made me smile.
Like just give, give Wu, give
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Wu, give Wu a little bit, give
me a little something.
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I was like, OK, that's that's
actually pretty cool, yeah.
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At first I was like, I I
realized, oh wait, yeah, he
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would have been in San Francisco
because Scott was in San
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Francisco.
And that was during like Ant Man
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2, wasn't it?
Yeah.
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And he was in the house with
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I was like, oh, OK, it made, it
made.
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At first I was like, Oh yeah,
how convenient.
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I was like, oh wait, no,
actually it makes sense.
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Yes, it does Stop being such a
pessimist.
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Almost kind of wish wish he
would.
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They would have found a way to
put Darcy in it, since they
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found a way to put Darcy in
everything.
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But you know.
Yeah, but no, because if they
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brought Darcy, that means Howard
the Duck would have been there
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and he would have been this.
Would get an A+ from me.
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No, I, I couldn't have handled
it.
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It would have been an A+ from
me.
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I'll I've been yelling from the
rooftops about this is the best
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thing Marvel has ever done, but.
You know, fortunately he's he's
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stuck on nowhere, Probably so.
Yeah, probably, yeah.
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Yeah.
But I mean, overall I thought, I
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thought it was good.
I I really, I actually enjoyed a
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lot of it.
So, yeah, OK.
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I'm a I'm a ask you all to guess
what my favorite part of the of
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this series was.
Mike, you should know 'cause I
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think I messaged you about it.
What could possibly be my
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favorite part of this whole
entire series?
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I I know what it is I.
They had one death that they
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showed in slow motion.
Oh yeah, John Walker.
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All four episodes it was John
Walker.
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Let me tell.
You, the moment I heard his
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voice.
And if I ever meet Wyatt Ross,
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I'm going to be like, you know
what?
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I love you, but your voice
triggers me because all I think
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is John Walker.
But the moment I heard his voice
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when he showed up, I was like,
you mean to tell me that Hawkeye
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is dead, Captain America is
dead, all of these other people
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die, but John Walker lived.
John Walker.
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But first.
He not only lived, he's Zemo's
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right hand man.
And I don't mean in the Oh yeah,
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we're equals kind of where I
mean in the I'm poor and my boss
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is drinking.
Giving it to him, I'm about to
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sacrifice my life so Zemo can
get it was the weirdest thing,
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and he was still kind of
irritating.
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And when that death happened,
when Namor tore him apart, I
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cackled so loudly I was like,
oh, I should have been recording
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my reaction to this.
It was gold.
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I loved it.
He his, his ability to probably
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sacrifice others for his safety
is probably why he's still
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standing, which is on brand for
him.
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And and two, when he showed that
Michelle was like, yeah,
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Hanukkah was going to have a
thing about this.
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I was so irritated but.
And him laying on the floor
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gasping for it.
Yeah, I know You were like.
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With his spine showing from the
bottom of his torn torso.
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It was it was just chef's kiss.
I loved it, I loved it.
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Y'all just y'all know how much I
hate that character.
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But but I did like the other
characters we got to see.
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I love seeing RiRi, Kamala and
Kate as as roomies and as
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friends and as like Cold
Warriors.
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That was a lot of fun because as
you all know, if you listen to
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us talk about Hawkeye, I really
did not care for Kate Bishop
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much.
And I still have not had a
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chance to sit down and watch
Ironheart, which I'm planning to
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do this week because I'm on
break from work.
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So, you know, I don't have as
much of A grasp on her
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character.
Yes.
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But to see the three of them
together and kind of how they
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interact with each other and how
they depend on each other, I
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love that because of course, you
know, yeah.
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Strong women characters love it.
Strong young women characters
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who are, you know, doing great
things and saving the world and
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stuff.
Love it.
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And the diverse?
And, and, and the diversity,
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yes, I, I mean, there's just so
much about that trio that I
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loved and to to kind of have
them torn apart from each other
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like so quickly that kind of
sucked.
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But again, it is only a four
episode art.
353
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,200
So, you know, it's kind of like
she had to, she had to go
354
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,080
through all of that.
Did you say art?
355
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,840
She had to kind of go through
all of that.
356
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,720
And then to see her interact
with like Shawn, she and Katie.
357
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,840
And I love the fact that they
gave Katie, you know, half of
358
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,840
the rings.
So she's not just some, you
359
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,440
know, human person.
That's a liability.
360
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,320
Like she actually pulled her
weight.
361
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,280
She was like, oh, OK, you going
to give me these rings?
362
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,480
I'm going to be just as awesome
as everyone else.
363
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,280
Loved it.
I loved the fact that we got to
364
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:14,000
see her interact with Alexi and
Molina and Yelena and I, I like
365
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,800
the way that they build the
relationships even in the
366
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,400
animated series.
And even though it's short, it's
367
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,600
sweet.
I think they did a really great
368
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,480
job and it's it's one of those
things again, where I feel like
369
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,360
I really want to see some of
this and live action.
370
00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:33,840
And we probably will come when
it comes to Doomsday because I
371
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,640
think most of these characters
are in Doomsday, if I'm not
372
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,120
mistaken.
And they've got to all interact
373
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:45,640
some, some kind of way, kind of
like, you know, the Guardians of
374
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,480
the Galaxy interacting with Thor
and interacting with, you know,
375
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,320
the others.
That that part kind of intrigues
376
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,240
me because you see characters
that you normally wouldn't think
377
00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:02,000
to put together and they're in
in this show together and they
378
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,840
play very well off of each
other.
379
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,000
They, you know, it's kind of
like when it's US against the
380
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,320
zombie world, you kind of don't
have time for egos.
381
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,280
You don't have time for, you
know, a whole bunch of
382
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,760
bickering.
And I just, I loved it.
383
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,520
I really did.
Like Death Dealer and and woo
384
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:29,760
and woo.
Just in general, because when
385
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,920
they're driving through the
desert and they get set upon by
386
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,040
the by the Raiders, the scrolls,
I was like really, y'all had to
387
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,840
throw them in there?
Why?
388
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,480
We didn't need them.
They could have died with the
389
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,920
zombies.
But you know when he's sitting
390
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,160
there looking and he does this
finger thing like hey, I see you
391
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,760
and it actually is him shooting
the people.
392
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,840
I was like, that's so cool and
it's so funny without it being
393
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,600
over the top or just like, you
know, I I don't know, I like
394
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,360
that character.
Don't like the fact that, you
395
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:05,720
know, they died as well.
But going back to what Anthony
396
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,040
was saying about the gore, yeah,
there's a lot of gore in this
397
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,160
one.
But I have to say, maybe because
398
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,000
it's animated, it didn't hit me
like it would have if it was
399
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,480
live action gore.
Some of the kills were, I'm
400
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,200
going to be honest, they were
funny to me.
401
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,640
Like the whole John Walker thing
was funny.
402
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:32,440
Namor getting his head exploded
by Kamala's expanding fist, That
403
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,760
was hilarious.
Captain America for guarding
404
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,720
you.
The guy who stopped.
405
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,440
Listen.
He's only I need.
406
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,760
Someone to tell Alexi that if
there's only one other person in
407
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,520
the room, nobody's going to be
singing songs about that.
408
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,440
Like nobody else is here to
witness.
409
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,080
And even if they created a song,
who's there to listen?
410
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,320
Almost everybody is dead.
Just let it go with Lexi.
411
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,240
Now they almost lost me when
Captain America was behind the
412
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,440
shield rolling around.
That was funny as yet though,
413
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,440
that.
Was they almost?
414
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,040
They almost lost me.
I was like, no, absolutely.
415
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,840
He's awesome.
I almost, I almost wish that
416
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,680
that they would have done like a
little tired tired squealing
417
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,160
sound when he started going
early.
418
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,280
No, no.
It was already bad enough
419
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,920
because when the Lexi was, when
the Lexi was tracking him
420
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,000
through the vents and he was
saying, oh, he's trying to find
421
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,640
me through the vents.
And he looks down at the floor.
422
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,400
Captain America is looking at
him and you hear someone say
423
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,400
Boo.
I could never figure out.
424
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,520
I was like, is that what did
Captain America say it like, was
425
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,920
that the one word he could say?
Or was that Alexi, who was like,
426
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,040
oh, I see you OK, There you are,
Boo.
427
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,840
But it was just if you, if you
wasn't paying attention, you
428
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,000
would have missed it.
But I actually had to rewind.
429
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,280
I was like, wait, did someone
just say Boo?
430
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,240
And it's like, it's just one
simple word.
431
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,600
But the way they placed it and
then the the kind of action, it
432
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,840
was just funny.
I thought it was hilarious, you
433
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,360
know?
They they almost lost me rolling
434
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:16,600
around with this year.
That was awesome.
435
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,520
I was going to turn this shit
off.
436
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:24,120
No, you it was fun.
It was fun.
437
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,920
But I, I do appreciate that
Marvel must have listened to
438
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:35,280
people talk about the first What
if episode with the zombies,
439
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,040
that there wasn't enough gore.
Yeah, 'cause that's, that's the
440
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,440
comic book was, was pretty bad.
So I I like the fact that they
441
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,440
leaned into the gore and the
horror aspect of it 'cause Wanda
442
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,800
was absolutely terrifying.
Let me tell you and, and it, and
443
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,080
it's so interesting with Wanda's
character because I don't know
444
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:03,640
if you guys saw the interview,
but Elizabeth Olsen was at she
445
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,400
was at a convention a couple of
weeks ago right when Marvel
446
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,240
Zombies dropped and someone
asked her about it.
447
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,360
And she was like, I'm going to
be honest, I don't even remember
448
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,640
what happens in that because I
recorded that like during COVID,
449
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,960
she's like, I know I recorded
it.
450
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,480
I remember doing the line she
said, but I was in my house.
451
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,760
She said we weren't in the
studio.
452
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,840
I was actually in my house
recording these, she said.
453
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,520
So that tells you how long it
takes some of this stuff to come
454
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:37,080
out, especially with animation.
But she was like the zombie
455
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,080
version of her we said was
terrifying.
456
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:46,080
And what if I think the the the
non zombified version of her in
457
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:51,080
this one was more terrifying
because she really, the way that
458
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:56,320
she was talking to Kamala, it's
almost like she was really
459
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,200
trying to convince you that what
she was doing was going to save
460
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,600
everyone.
And I literally had gotten to
461
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,840
the point where it towards the
end when Kamala was like, I
462
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,360
don't have any other choice.
Everybody else is gone.
463
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:12,040
I'm the only one left.
It's something's got to give.
464
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,760
You know, the point where she
gives in.
465
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:18,320
I was at the point as well where
I was like, maybe Wanda's being
466
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,240
sincere.
And I think that's the scary
467
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,040
part because.
The two the two biggest liars in
468
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,760
the show gave people the most
hope and that was Zemo and and
469
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,880
as soon as Zemo opened his
mouth, I turned to the person I
470
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,120
live with, I'm relating to my
marriage.
471
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:35,520
That's it.
He lied.
472
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,400
I.
Knew it.
473
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,400
I was like, there's no, there's
no shot like he's going to be
474
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,840
he's taking a raft and he's just
transporting people.
475
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,040
Nah, Nah, I mean.
The other people, yeah, he
476
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,640
probably was trying to help
because again, one thing about
477
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,080
Zemo and his character that we
explored and, you know, Falcon
478
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:03,200
and The Winter Soldier, Zemo was
trying to do things to kind of
479
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,640
help the little people.
You know, he was like, OK, all
480
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520
these people with all of these
superpowers, they're not
481
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,960
thinking about the smaller
people.
482
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,560
They're not thinking about the.
Consequences.
483
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,600
They're at he, he tells them up
front.
484
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,840
I don't like heroes.
And that's the part I.
485
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,320
Don't like I don't like
superheroes.
486
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Don't like heroes.
And then he's like, Oh yeah, you
487
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,000
guys can come on.
I was like, something's not
488
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,880
right about this.
You know what, I'm just going to
489
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,560
go back to the desert like you
know, y'all go ahead and sail
490
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,080
away.
Right, like we survived five
491
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,160
years against Raiders.
Whatever, we we can do this.
492
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:43,480
But Wanda going back to her, she
was very scary.
493
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,600
And then at the end when she
tells Kamala, you know, she's
494
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,560
like, basically, oh, I can fix
this.
495
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,760
I can, I can, I can make it so
that none of this has happened,
496
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,240
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And of course, Kamala takes her
497
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,960
hand and we see kind of the
world has gone back to normal.
498
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,120
Her friends are there.
And then at the end, you know,
499
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,840
she starts or something starts
glitching to where she's seen
500
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,840
through reality and she can see
Rhode Island, Rhode Island
501
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,880
fighting the zombies, trying to
give her a warning.
502
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,920
Hey, don't believe anything that
you see, it's all fake blah blah
503
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560
blah blah blah.
Yeah, Ruby says I hacked the
504
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,800
signal, she says.
I hacked the signal I'm trying
505
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,520
to get to.
Yeah, right.
506
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,120
It's not real.
The question, the question that
507
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:35,280
I had that Mike, I think Mike
and I, I think I disagree with
508
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,800
it more now that I've watched it
a second time, because
509
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,080
especially in that first
episode, I was wondering.
510
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,440
I said, OK, so was everything
since the Valley of the Gods
511
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,760
fake in Kamala's mind?
Was that was all of that
512
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,760
something that Wanda planted?
And then Mike, was you were
513
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,160
saying that?
No, what?
514
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,840
Tell tell me what you were
saying.
515
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:05,880
Yeah, about.
We find it, you said then how
516
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,120
was I?
I said I think I think
517
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,320
everything happens as it plays
out, but one that gets to her at
518
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,320
the end.
And Wanda tried to get through
519
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,840
it throughout the series, but
like she she had been trying to
520
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,800
get to her because because
Kamala had been having dreams
521
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,040
about about Wanda trying to
reach out to her.
522
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,520
So I think that I think that
Wanda had been trying to get to
523
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,040
her the whole like throughout
the four, throughout the 4
524
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,960
episodes, like he, but she'd
been looking for her because
525
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:37,840
apparently, I think from I think
that that her that there's
526
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,640
something about her quantum
bands that that Wanda needed in
527
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,240
order to control everything and
to and to get control to defeat
528
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800
elemental Hulk and to get
control of everything.
529
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,600
I think that's why she was
looking for her, because the
530
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,520
bands, the band, the power of
the bands is something that she
531
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,560
needed in order to control her.
I think you said, but then how
532
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,760
how is RiRi alive in the
background saying she broke
533
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,200
through Dakota?
I said I'm assuming that hurts
534
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,560
that the same that she injected
in her arm worked and that, you
535
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,320
know, you said that makes sense,
but then that means that she's
536
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,360
been fighting zombies that whole
time by herself.
537
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,400
But yeah, OK, but is yeah, it's
her and her and her teddy bear
538
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,880
Friday robot.
We're we're over there like
539
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,800
getting through they threw.
Me off so bad.
540
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,920
OK, so I agree with the part
about RiRi and her cure and you
541
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,080
know that part.
I think the thing that makes me
542
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,280
doubt whether all of this other
stuff actually happened to
543
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,480
Kamala is in the first episode,
the first time she kind of sort
544
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,400
of has the quote UN quote dream
or the glitch or whatever it it
545
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,280
could have been.
She sees herself standing in the
546
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,040
street, and this is right after
Blade Blade Night rescues her in
547
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,800
the desert.
She sees RiRi and Kate sitting
548
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,600
at a Cafe table, much like they
were at the end of the episode.
549
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,240
And when she calls out to them,
they look at her and they point
550
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,920
behind her.
And this is when she turns
551
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,680
around and she sees Wanda.
So I was wondering if that was
552
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:14,840
the point where Wanda probably
turned on this alternate reality
553
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,320
for Kamala and her quote UN
quote dreaming of Wanda was
554
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:25,600
actually her breaking through
the the simulation, kind of sort
555
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:31,840
of like what was happening in
Wanda Vision, you know?
556
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,880
See, I was thinking, I was
thinking that the the opposite
557
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,360
way.
I think, I feel like she was in
558
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,920
Kamala's head briefly and she
took that dream that she had and
559
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,920
made that the reality of
sticking around at the end.
560
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,560
Does that make sense?
It it wasn't.
561
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,000
It was, it was like, OK, I know
what you want because I've been
562
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,400
in your head.
Well, now I have the power to
563
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,360
give it to you.
So she did it at the end.
564
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,760
She did the whole cafe thing
because she knew that would be
565
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,679
familiar to her, OK, Because
that's part of the manipulation.
566
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:16,440
And I believe she just needed
she needed the Bengal and Kamala
567
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,480
to help her contain the energy
because she couldn't contain it
568
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,080
all by herself.
Right.
569
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,920
I think I think it's more like
the the what if episode that
570
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,360
that really was in where where
our Mysterio like kind of I
571
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,840
think that this is what you're
you're thinking of you, you kind
572
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,800
of feel like it is, if I'm not
mistaken, you couldn't like that
573
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,280
episode where Mysterio was
projecting a whole thing and
574
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,800
fooled re re and re re did
basically like was fooled the
575
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,920
whole time.
Like that's what that's you
576
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,679
think that she was doing it.
But I, I, I don't necessarily
577
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,040
agree with that.
And I feel like, I just feel
578
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,320
like I feel like Wanda was
stalking her the way that she
579
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,240
was stalking America in
multiverse and mad multiverse
580
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:04,240
and madness.
Like like she was, she like she
581
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:08,160
was, she was stalking America to
get her power since that she
582
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,400
could go get her to get her
kids.
583
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,480
So I think I think this is
basically the same thing, except
584
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,320
that Kamala is taking the place
of America and that she she's
585
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,440
trying to get control of
everything.
586
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,800
She's trying to change every
change everything.
587
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,760
And she needs Kamala and her
band for that.
588
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,840
Right.
OK, OK, that that does make
589
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,160
sense.
And this one of those things
590
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,480
where it's like something about
it was bothering me, but it's
591
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,400
like sometimes you have to talk
it out in order for it to make
592
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,120
sense.
Because everything that was I
593
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,800
was like there's and again, this
is Wanda we're talking about.
594
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,640
This is someone who is known to
create other realities that
595
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,440
people believe.
So it's kind of like, OK, did
596
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,840
Kamala, like, dream up all of
these people?
597
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,560
I mean, granted, we know that
these are accurate versions of
598
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,680
these people, but Wanda knows
most of these are probably has
599
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,920
some kind of knowledge of them.
So I was like, yeah, she could
600
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,960
just be planting that.
But OK, that makes a lot more
601
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,920
sense.
Yeah, and and we don't know the
602
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:20,000
full power of the Bengal.
And so 'cause she was also
603
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,280
having dreams of Infinity Hulk
too and Wanda wasn't putting
604
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,120
those in her head.
So I think the Bengal was giving
605
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,720
was also giving her some signals
too.
606
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,480
But she may not have been able
to interpret it or make meaning
607
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,360
of it.
Or maybe maybe maybe Eternal
608
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,240
Hulk needed the Bengal too.
Like the Bengal is the key for.
609
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,440
Was the key for both of them.
Like the.
610
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,240
Bengal, I think, I think he was
fine.
611
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,000
He I think he was doing fine.
He as long as no one bothered
612
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,080
him, he would have been good.
But Wanda.
613
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:57,400
Yeah, but Wanda threw too much
Adam.
614
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:02,760
Yeah, I.
Was kind of I was wondering now
615
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,320
that you guys have mentioned
that Wanda could have placed
616
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,560
that vision in Kamala's head as
well.
617
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,240
Like in one of those things
where, OK, I'm going to make you
618
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,880
dream of this being because I
need you to get the bracelet to
619
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:22,680
this to over here, you know, as
far as Eternal Hulk goes, like
620
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,040
planting that suggestion, like,
oh, this is where I need you to
621
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,120
go because this is where I'm
going to have the most power.
622
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,840
But I'm not going to tell you
that's where I'm going to have
623
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,640
the most power.
But I need you to kind of, you
624
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,240
know, put it, put two and two
together that this is where you
625
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,640
need to go.
Yeah, that's a possibility, but
626
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,760
Wanda seems to be pretty
straightforward.
627
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,760
Wanda.
Wanda knew that she that she
628
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,520
saw.
Because when she Wanda.
629
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,000
Was like, oh, you saw him too.
Yes.
630
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,680
And and then I hear what you're
saying that maybe she playing
631
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,600
Division, but this Wanda version
of Wanda and all Wanda's,
632
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,760
they're pretty straightforward.
Unless they're feeding people
633
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,680
zombies and making them think
it's real food.
634
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,200
Because let's talk about that
feast of new.
635
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,400
Arabs No, she she said she
needed an army.
636
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,840
She she literally said I needed
an army of gods.
637
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,880
How she got there is not
straightforward, but her intent
638
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:20,840
was straightforward.
That was so disgusting because
639
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,160
once you realize what's
happening and she takes the
640
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,960
glamour away, or whatever you
want to call it, I it's
641
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,400
animation.
I felt like I was looking at
642
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,800
this in live action.
Like in my mind, I'm thinking of
643
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:42,240
David Harbour and of Thor, Chris
Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson and
644
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:43,640
all these people in this
scenario.
645
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,480
And I'm just like, Oh my God,
this is the most disgusting
646
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,000
thing.
I was thinking of Fray Pies.
647
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,440
I was just like.
Man, this is just, it's just
648
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,080
like just like how she did in
Multiverse of Madness when she
649
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,360
when she like revealed the whole
like like wilting orchard and
650
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,400
shit.
And I was just like.
651
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,400
Yes.
If y'all can see how it goes
652
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,920
face after I see it Fray pie go.
Go to the YouTube video, you'll
653
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:18,080
see it 'cause I'm disgusted.
Yeah, this version of Wanda is
654
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,400
so diabolical.
Diabolical is the perfect word.
655
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,600
Yeah.
Because like in previous
656
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,840
iterations of Wanda in the live
action, you know, Wanda has been
657
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,080
enemy, she has been friends, she
has been kind of in between.
658
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:42,200
She has been, I don't know.
It's kind of like, you know,
659
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,080
that she's doing wrong things,
but you also have empathy for
660
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,720
because of everything that she's
gone through to get to that
661
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,280
point.
So it's kind of like you don't
662
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,360
really want to look at her as a
bad guy, but you can't look at
663
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,880
her as a, a, a good guy either.
There is a little bit of that
664
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,480
moral wiggle room with her in
this one.
665
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,840
No, it's like you have no
sympathy for her.
666
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,760
You have no understanding for
her, nothing, because she is so
667
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,360
diabolical with it.
And the fact that she like out
668
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,280
of all of this army, out of all
of these people.
669
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,320
She only gives the ability to
speak to one damn person in this
670
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,640
Okoye and Okoye, you know, I,
I'm sorry, Okoye is one of those
671
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,280
generals that people see her and
they know who she is in the
672
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,960
door.
Milaje, they're going to go
673
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,200
follow her.
So naturally you put that person
674
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:49,880
in charge of the whole zombie
horde, but just her period, the
675
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,120
way she talks to Kamala, the way
she's kind of coaxing to her.
676
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,880
And and then it's like almost
immediately she flips the
677
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,120
script.
What's what?
678
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,000
That's that's the scary part of
her.
679
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,040
Because you really want to
believe that, OK, this can't.
680
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,040
Wanda can't be this evil.
She can't be.
681
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:14,080
She was.
In.
682
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,840
Danger at one point.
Michelle Michelle couldn't be on
683
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,920
the podcast tonight, but she did
want to say that they really did
684
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,000
Wanda wrong again.
They just they need to stop.
685
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,960
Yeah, and you know, I thought
about her with all of this
686
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,000
because she is one of those
people who is very staunchly a
687
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,120
Wanda supporter.
As far as you know, they did
688
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,720
Wanda dirty and and they should
not.
689
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,720
Yeah, I I thought about that
because it's like if you're
690
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:47,680
watching this version of Wanda
and we don't know if Wanda
691
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,560
Maximoff is going to show up in
anything else live action.
692
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,280
I think Elizabeth Olson has said
that the character is done, but
693
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,240
we never know.
I mean, Vision Quest just got
694
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:05,160
announced for next summer.
I, I don't know if I can see
695
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,880
them not putting her in at some
point.
696
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,720
But if you're one of the people
like us who watches the TV shows
697
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,040
and the movies and you know that
they are connected, I think it's
698
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,440
going to be hard for us to have
any kind of sympathy for Wanda
699
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:25,800
moving forward because of what
we've seen of her since
700
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,880
Multiverse of Madness.
And I mean, even with Multiverse
701
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,360
of Madness is kind of teetering
on the edge because in the end
702
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,720
she does quote, UN quote,
sacrifice herself in order to
703
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,000
correct the things that she's
done wrong.
704
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:44,000
But it's like.
I don't think, I think I think
705
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,080
that this is kind of the perfect
embodiment of Wanda for like MCU
706
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,120
and comic books, because I mean,
she's the same in the comic
707
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,960
books too.
It's like she, she just is very,
708
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,520
like you said, she's very
straightforward.
709
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,520
Like when she has something to
do, she sets out to do it.
710
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,920
And there's no wavering like she
needs to set, she needs to get
711
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,960
this shit done.
And when she sets her mind to
712
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,640
something, you can't wave or she
doesn't waver from that either.
713
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:16,200
So good or bad, it's like you
can, she's still going to be
714
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:23,960
like really staunch and, and
like stubborn about what she
715
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,240
needs to do and she's going to
keep going forward and doing it.
716
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,400
So I mean, that's just, that's
just, that's just how her
717
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,040
character is.
It's like if her mutants keep
718
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,200
messing with her, she just says,
she says 3 words and mutants
719
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,800
disappear.
It's like she like she's like,
720
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,480
you don't want to mess with her.
But she's still very
721
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,400
straightforward about what she
wants to do.
722
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,960
And she and she rarely, rarely
wavers from it.
723
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:57,040
Right, She's scary, man.
She really is.
724
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,440
But but you know what?
I'm going to be honest, OK,
725
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:09,240
Wanda as the the zombie queen,
she's scary, but also at the
726
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:13,640
same time, we kind of expect
this because we saw this version
727
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,000
of her character and what if so
we know that she can be
728
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,800
terrifying.
It's just the fact that now she
729
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,520
has control over herself.
Whereas in What if?
730
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,760
I don't think she did.
She was just straight zombie.
731
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:31,640
Then she wasn't able to go back
and forth between zombie and her
732
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,120
human self.
Correct.
733
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,280
I.
Don't think, well I I think they
734
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,560
sort of did a blend of the comic
book.
735
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,120
Cause in the comic book they
retain their personalities.
736
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,880
It's just that when the hunger
takes over, they revert.
737
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,400
Yeah, OK.
And that would make sense
738
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,880
because when revision was
feeding her and keeping her
739
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,520
contained.
They cut off pieces of chala
740
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,880
motherfucker.
I wasn't going to mention that,
741
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,120
but.
Sure, I was giving it to Chala
742
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,000
Burgers.
And you notice him fighting with
743
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,400
with with one leg.
He was fighting Thanos bro, that
744
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,360
was.
Like it, like him him, like just
745
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,040
him on all on all threes because
he wasn't on all fours, like all
746
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,520
threes.
Just like galloping towards
747
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,480
them.
I was.
748
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,720
Like.
Laughing and being like, OK,
749
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,000
that's bad ass, but that's kind
of funny.
750
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,720
Like I wanted to laugh.
I was just.
751
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,360
Like I didn't notice that.
That's that's still pretty bad.
752
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,840
And it was really cool that
Peter was like, yeah, he, he
753
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,120
really wasn't doing well
because, you know, his brain was
754
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,960
all screwed up, OK, I guess
being dead.
755
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,480
But then he started figuring
out.
756
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,640
He started figuring out the
stones and that that was kind of
757
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,360
scary.
So let's talk about that, that
758
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,840
episode real quick, because
Peter's commentary at the
759
00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:01,480
beginning of that episode was to
me, again, it was comedy gold
760
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,720
because he's telling, he's
telling us what happened and
761
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:08,800
what if the zombie episodes.
And he was like, yes, I really
762
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,600
like to say that we were able to
do this and we were able to
763
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,760
fight them and, and get
everything done.
764
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,760
But no, that's not what
happened.
765
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,640
And then he goes into the kind
of commentary about what
766
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,000
happens.
And I was just sitting there
767
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,720
like, I don't think I'm supposed
to be laughing.
768
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,280
Like this is a show about
zombies.
769
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,720
People are getting killed left
and right.
770
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:30,720
They're being turned.
This shit was funny.
771
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,640
It was really.
Like you watch Walking Dead, so
772
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,560
it's like you can't you?
You're not even partial to this.
773
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,680
It's like you see zombies, you
just like, whatever.
774
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,520
It's like everyone else is like,
oh man, that's so sad.
775
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,320
You know, it, it's the
characters, these are characters
776
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,680
that I love and I'm, you know,
just watching them kind of be
777
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,320
zombified and, and still being
awesome like a zombie Hawkeye.
778
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,480
The fact that you're still like,
kind of like you said, Anthony,
779
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,320
you still retain a a bit of a
little bit.
780
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,400
So it's like you're a zombie,
but you're still able to
781
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,400
calculate where you need to
shoot these arrows to do the
782
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,640
most damage.
That again.
783
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,080
That's yeah, yeah.
But he he wasn't smart enough to
784
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,280
realize he was shooting a
confetti era.
785
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,440
Yeah.
I don't think he cared.
786
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,320
I think he was just he.
Just wanted to shoot.
787
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,880
He was just shooting I.
Think he was just trying to
788
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,760
shoot.
He was just trying to I don't
789
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,240
know, because being a confetti
arrow, like, I don't know, I
790
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:39,560
mean, if he hits it in the right
spot, they're dead.
791
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:45,680
So yeah, I, I don't know.
But I mean, I think aside from
792
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Wanda being scary, the fact that
the fact that Thor was being
793
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,920
kind of like Infinity War Thor
with the depression with, you
794
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,280
know, just kind of feeling like
a failure.
795
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,320
He should have gone for the head
again.
796
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,800
Rocky would have been alive
instead of instead of fucking
797
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,800
what?
Raised to the bone like that
798
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,440
would they'd have to do that
they didn't have to do like have
799
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,800
his skull roll off after he
after after he got they got shot
800
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,320
by by Thanos.
They traumatized me enough in
801
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,360
Guardians of the Galaxy Three.
I was not ready for that.
802
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,600
I was like bro.
Y'all are cold because.
803
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,560
Actually actually sort of
outline of it, like when he hit
804
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,760
him and the short outline of all
his fur and skin, like coming
805
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:40,680
off of his skills, I was like.
Horrible, horrible.
806
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,280
But again, I I think zombified
Thor is probably the next
807
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,280
scariest thing even I don't
know, I guess even more so to me
808
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:55,480
than than Captain Marvel, if
that's even like, I don't know
809
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,960
if that makes sense, but for
some reason he scared me more,
810
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,240
you know, especially him coming
in.
811
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,520
That's already an iconic
entrance that we've had in live
812
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,800
action.
So you're gonna take that
813
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,160
entrance and bring him in that
way to literally obliterate
814
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,760
everyone?
How dare you?
815
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:21,960
How dare you?
The homie blade night night mean
816
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,840
he did, they did Blade, he did
Blade night there.
817
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,560
But I mean, they showed like the
wall of lightning they heard,
818
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:36,320
they showed him wailing.
But I mean, he is blade.
819
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,240
And I'm trying to, I'm trying
to, I'm trying to have hope
820
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:39,880
here.
Leave me alone.
821
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,520
I'm trying to have I'm trying to
hold on.
822
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,840
I'm holding on.
I'm like he, he could be OK.
823
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:47,840
I mean, country's probably fine.
Country will probably just find
824
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,480
find another.
Avatar.
825
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,280
Find another avatar.
Yeah, like country.
826
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,680
He might be pissed off.
Like, damn, that was one of my
827
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,760
better ones.
Oh well, let me see.
828
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,120
Let me see who else is around
here.
829
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,680
Now country was funny.
When he was talking to Valkyrie
830
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,600
there, he was like.
And it was.
831
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,120
And it was F Murray Abraham
again.
832
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,840
I was like, oh, they got him
back.
833
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:07,960
That was awesome.
I mean.
834
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:14,240
The fact that they got most of
the voice cast back to to do
835
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:18,000
their original role, so that
that was fun as well again, but.
836
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,600
But Hope beat, Hope beat Hope
beat forward to say he did the
837
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,840
ragprock.
I mean, he he beat them down
838
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,240
again.
Yeah, that was.
839
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:31,160
Permanently this time.
Yeah, it was great.
840
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,080
Again, the deaths in this show,
probably because they're
841
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,800
animated.
They they were kind of funny to
842
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,400
me because you're looking at
these characters and of course
843
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,000
these characters are now, I
don't even want to say evil, but
844
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,920
there's zombies.
They're they they're not in
845
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,840
control of their faculties and
they're, you know, basically
846
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,920
trying to kill and eat the the
other people that we like.
847
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,040
And so to see the way that some
of them ended, like, I'm not
848
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,440
going to lie, Ghost that even
watching it in the trailer,
849
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,600
watching it in the show, I was
like, yeah, you know what?
850
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,280
You probably did deserve that.
I mean, it was just great.
851
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:14,800
But also like the way Namor was
killing everyone in that room.
852
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,120
He split that one chick straight
up.
853
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,720
I was just like.
He was splitting everybody like
854
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:25,040
he he was sliced, he was slicing
the dice and like he's the one
855
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,560
that had the sword.
I was like, how, what, how you
856
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,080
fuck with that?
Like, I mean, other than like
857
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,280
putting putting your sparkles in
his in his mouth and turning
858
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,120
into a Mace.
I mean other than that it was
859
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,120
like what?
What else are you gonna like?
860
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,680
He was a he was just scary.
Not only that, it's like he's
861
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,760
strong as fuck and he can he's
fast as fuck and it's like what
862
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,120
you gonna do with that?
It's like.
863
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,080
Nothing.
Like he was, he was really
864
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,840
fucking badass.
Like he was all, he was almost
865
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,640
more badass in this than he was
in what kind of forever.
866
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:01,920
It's like he was just, I mean,
the fact that he, I mean, it was
867
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,000
scared that that shit was just
intimidating.
868
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,440
He was, yeah, he was kind of, he
was kind of scary.
869
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:15,400
But again, funny because Zemo is
sitting in in the raft thinking
870
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,160
he's safe.
He's ejected the heroes.
871
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,240
He was like, yeah, we're going
to let them feed him and we'll
872
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:22,680
be safe.
And as he's saying, you have
873
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,280
nothing to worry about, Namor
comes crashing in behind him
874
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,080
with the cell that he's already
inject ejected.
875
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:35,840
So again, a lot of funny parts
in this whole series that, you
876
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,120
know, I don't know if they were
meant to be intentionally funny.
877
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,280
I I was, I was amused.
I was very amused for all four
878
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,640
episodes.
Something, though, that I
879
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:50,480
figured out early on was that
the single thing was red
880
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,680
herring.
Because if there's one thing we
881
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:59,160
know about the Nova Core that
they don't when when you look at
882
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,840
the Galaxy as a whole, it's
thousands of worlds and
883
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,280
trillions of people.
And we're not going to worry
884
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,240
about and fix this one little
backwater planet, which is
885
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:13,720
already primitive technology.
We're just going to quarantine
886
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:16,960
it and it'll be fine.
And if.
887
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,640
They try to get out.
We're just.
888
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,480
Going to shoot them down, shoot
them down, you know, 'cause you
889
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,080
don't want that, yeah, you don't
want that stuff going, 'cause
890
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,200
the comic book, it actually
does, you know, they actually,
891
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:31,000
the heroes actually do good of,
of the world's in effect other
892
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,800
planets.
Oh, OK.
893
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:38,560
So, but it it, I was like, yeah,
they, yeah, as soon, as soon as
894
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,360
they started to leave, I was
like, yeah, Novocore is not
895
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,520
'cause they're like, they're
like the Green Lantern core of
896
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,600
the MCU, not MCU of.
DC.
897
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,200
Yeah, we have Marvel there.
Yeah, they're gonna corn.
898
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,080
They've been quarantining the
planet.
899
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,840
Yeah, there's a difference
between rescuing and protecting.
900
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,280
It's like they were they were
trying to rescue nobody.
901
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,200
They're trying to protect
everybody else.
902
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,200
Everybody else, yeah.
Because even in Shangxi, like
903
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,200
how long is that ring going to
keep the infection at Bay?
904
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:11,520
Like they don't know about it.
But I'm just saying that's the
905
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,200
whole point.
It's like you can't let anything
906
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,480
off the planet period, because
there's so many unknowns, so
907
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,320
many variables.
It's better just to block the
908
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,880
planet off and, and catch
losses.
909
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,600
They're lucky and and they're
not going to blow it up because
910
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,760
then you have that shit that's
floating around in space.
911
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,720
No, you you just contain it and
and hope for the best.
912
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,880
Yeah.
But when they.
913
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,680
Said when they first mentioned
Nova Core.
914
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,040
I literally look like I don't
think this is going to work
915
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,960
because Nova Core, no, they're
not going to do that.
916
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:52,280
Even from when the first song in
Guardians one, it's like you
917
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,560
look at me like them, those
motherfuckers ain't.
918
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,040
They ain't about shit like.
They're not friendly.
919
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,440
They're not trying to help
nobody.
920
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,000
They're like, yeah, that's a you
problem.
921
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,320
We're going to stay over here
and worry about us.
922
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,440
As long as it doesn't come this
way, we're good.
923
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,600
But the moment you start
creeping into our territory,
924
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:12,560
then we're going to have a
problem.
925
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,520
And yeah, they, they showed
exactly how they deal with those
926
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,960
problems.
They're like, oh, OK, yeah, you
927
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,200
have 10 seconds to turn around
and we're going to set all this
928
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,240
shit on fire.
What?
929
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:29,680
Y'all are supposed to help us?
And I guess, you know what?
930
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:36,680
I guess that's the naivete of
us, because we're like, Oh yeah,
931
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,880
we're so important that we're
going to get people from another
932
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,560
planet, Galaxy, universe to come
and help us out with our one
933
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,880
little problem.
And Nova Core is like, Oh no,
934
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,480
this is so much bigger than you.
See, it's, it's a, it's a
935
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,920
combination of naivete and
desperation.
936
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,800
It's like they're trying to find
anything that to get them out of
937
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,760
this situation.
They get, they're trying to find
938
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,480
like any like little thing of
hope that they can cling to that
939
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,920
they can be like, oh, this is
it.
940
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,240
This is the one thing that can
actually help us get out of
941
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:14,600
this.
And it's like you, you don't
942
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,880
even know.
It's like they're like, what
943
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:16,880
does it do?
Oh, I don't know.
944
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,920
It it sends a beacon.
Oh, that means they can come and
945
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,840
get us.
Like that's not necessarily what
946
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,640
that it's like.
You don't, you don't know.
947
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,480
That's what that means.
It could be a beacon to be like,
948
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,280
OK, we're ready to incinerate
this bitch.
949
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,960
Right.
Do not come here under any
950
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,440
circumstances or let anything
leave this planet.
951
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,640
Or yeah, yeah.
Or it could be a yeah, we got a
952
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,360
problem that we can't fix.
Just come take us out of our
953
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,000
misery now.
Yeah.
954
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,800
You know, and the other thing I
was thinking about this, OK, so
955
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,720
if you're if you're connecting
this to what happens in the what
956
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:56,120
if universe, where the hell is a
lot too in the watchers now,
957
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,840
like a lot too.
He interfered in everything
958
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,640
else.
You can't come stop this.
959
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,200
No, once it once it once it
started.
960
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,280
Why too is probably like, you
know what, let me call the Nova
961
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,960
Core.
Hey, y'all need to come.
962
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,400
That was his intervention.
Y'all need to come and
963
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,640
quarantine this.
No, no, I watch you.
964
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,280
I watch was like, you know what?
I'm not the I am the he's like,
965
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,000
yeah, I'm definitely the watcher
on this month.
966
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,040
This shit.
I'm not.
967
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,200
I ain't doing 'cause I.
Don't want this shit touching
968
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,960
me, No.
Can you imagine a zombie
969
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,720
watcher?
The whole, the whole everything
970
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,560
will be done.
Everything will be done.
971
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,080
Yeah, why, Yeah.
Watch was like, let's just see
972
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,440
how this, let's see how this
plays out.
973
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,920
I'm not gonna go down there
like, 'cause he, he was, he was
974
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,960
in the third episode, like in
the sky.
975
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,360
You it's like, it was real.
It was kind of fast, but you
976
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,880
could see him in the sky, like
looking and watching everything.
977
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,160
Of Marvel Zombies.
Yes, in in this series he was in
978
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,960
there.
Did I miss?
979
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,560
Yeah, I saw.
I watched a couple reactions and
980
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,120
they pointed out I was like oh
shit OK.
981
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,840
So he was, he was there.
Yeah, I think so.
982
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,960
I think it's in 3rd episode.
He was like, OK, I'm trying not
983
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,880
to get in trouble.
In the continuation of What if,
984
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,440
like because remember he he
said, oh, this could be a
985
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,160
problem at the end of the What
if zombie episode.
986
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,800
Yeah.
That's 'cause you saw zombie
987
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,760
Thanos with the with the the
gauntlet and he was like, oh.
988
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,000
So that's that would be that
would be weird because there's
989
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,560
only one wah 2.
There isn't a multiverse of WAH
990
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,840
2.
No, but remember there are other
991
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:40,040
watchers so.
And and watch watch was that was
992
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,280
I mean watch was part of that
continuation because that was
993
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:49,360
because Marvel zombie that that
Peter and Scott's head and and
994
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,400
three and three limb chala are
part of that.
995
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,520
What part of that we?
Did not call him 3 limb chala.
996
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,400
I'm this OK?
3 1/2 limb chala.
997
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,720
I'm sorry.
You know what?
998
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,680
I can't.
I can't.
999
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,320
I can't they're they're, they're
part of that what if continuity
1000
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,440
because that that that's part of
his thing.
1001
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,560
He was there.
So it's it's only it makes sense
1002
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:19,280
that he would be there.
I, I, I was under the impression
1003
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,680
that it's just one.
Why 2?
1004
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,240
So he probably would have just
dipped and be like, yeah, this
1005
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:31,600
this universe is a lost cause.
The the Nova Core guy they
1006
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,720
handled and just.
He's like, no thanks, just
1007
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,800
looking.
Yeah, yeah.
1008
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:36,640
Oh.
Yeah.
1009
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,760
Oh, now you want to just be the
watcher?
1010
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,640
Yeah.
Oh, prop props.
1011
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:46,200
Well, partial props to Wen Wu
for coming to save his son.
1012
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,480
But then, you know, he sounds
like.
1013
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,000
What about everybody else?
It's.
1014
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,920
Like they're not important.
They're not important.
1015
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:01,080
I and I mean, it was, it was, it
was kind of on brand for Wim Wu.
1016
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,760
Yeah, globally on brand.
For but props were coming.
1017
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,640
He he didn't have to.
And for sacrificing himself
1018
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,120
'cause he could.
Have he He didn't necessarily
1019
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,880
sacrifice himself.
He well, I guess he did kind of.
1020
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,400
For Sean, yeah, he did for Sean,
but.
1021
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,320
After called, after found.
Him a fool, so one of soft
1022
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,760
hearted fool I I.
Wish it would have been like
1023
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,760
soft hearted motherfucker.
Well, one of the things that I
1024
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:38,000
did see a lot of online after
these episodes aired, people are
1025
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,840
wondering where the hell is
Shang Shi 2?
1026
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:46,400
Because Marvel has not said that
they're not doing it.
1027
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,440
You know, it's like at at this
point everything that they've
1028
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,880
had in development that are that
is not being done.
1029
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,160
They've kind of told us, OK,
this is not gonna happen.
1030
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,440
This is not gonna happen.
This is not gonna happen.
1031
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,960
Nothing on Shangshi 2.
Can I get my damn movie please?
1032
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,160
Can't.
I mean, cause y'all taking
1033
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,800
everything else.
Y'all still slacking on the
1034
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,560
blade thing.
We supposedly are not getting
1035
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:24,240
another moon night season.
Can I, can I get the one of the
1036
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:29,080
the better characters that you
guys have had in the last couple
1037
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,040
of phases?
Like can't can we get a
1038
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,320
continuation of that story,
please?
1039
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,840
I don't, I don't know.
I have a feeling, I have a
1040
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,320
feeling that there are people
there just saying, you know
1041
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:46,080
what, based on the climate of,
of the real world, we're just
1042
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,440
going to hold off on some things
and just kind of wait.
1043
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,920
Yeah, just like, just like they
did that that that Assassin's
1044
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,680
Creed where where they got where
the assassin was going to be a,
1045
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,720
a slave, like killing off the
clan.
1046
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,920
They were like, then they
stopped it because, you know,
1047
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,000
well, they said, they said
because of the political climb,
1048
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,920
I'm like killing the clan.
So.
1049
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,840
What was the problem with that
synopsis?
1050
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,800
Well, because because they
already had problems with them
1051
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,400
when they tried to bring in.
I'm being facetious.
1052
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,320
I'm being.
Facetious they tried to bring in
1053
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,320
but when they tried to begin
Yasuke they had problems with it
1054
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:28,280
too and they were just like I'm
like y'all they just say what
1055
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,000
you need to say.
But anyway.
1056
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,720
But yeah, I, I, I think that
has, I think that has maybe a
1057
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,520
little bit to do with it.
We'll just keep kicking this can
1058
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,960
down the road as much as we can
and just kind of wait.
1059
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,280
Yeah.
Right, OK.
1060
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,120
Because they haven't officially
cancelled Blade.
1061
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,560
Yeah, they pushed it to us like
there's no push.
1062
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,200
Keep, just keep pushing it.
Just keep pushing it.
1063
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,280
And Mahershala, I did read, said
that he still is very much
1064
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:04,400
interested in doing it so.
Yeah, but we don't want him to
1065
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,320
get to a point where he's 70 and
they're like, oh, OK, we're
1066
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,160
going to we, we finally greenlit
them.
1067
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,120
Now at that point, it was called
Wesley.
1068
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:19,360
He'd be like you, ready to go.
No, because Wesley's older than
1069
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,880
Mahershala.
No, but he looks good though.
1070
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,560
I mean my Hershala does too so
like when he turns 70 he could
1071
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,800
still be in fit shape but it's
just.
1072
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,320
Like Bladen nursing.
I just need them to to figure
1073
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,400
out what the hell they doing.
So, so I think a lot of us who
1074
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,840
really, really enjoyed this
Marvel Zombies, there was a lot
1075
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,840
of these are characters that we
we have wanted to see and want
1076
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,040
to see again and can't wait to
see again.
1077
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,680
And so I think there's a lot of
that involved in it too.
1078
01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:01,800
Yeah, because I mean, as much as
I love Moon Night and I love
1079
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,600
that character, I really want
them to come back for a second
1080
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,040
season because I need to know
what's going on with who.
1081
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,720
Was it Mark?
No.
1082
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,760
Yeah, Mark.
Was it Mark at the end?
1083
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,760
Yeah, no, that's.
Wait, who?
1084
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,400
The the assassin not Mark, not
not.
1085
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:25,760
Steven Steven J No.
I can't remember the name right
1086
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,320
now.
I, I want to see what happens
1087
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,240
with that character.
I, you know, Moonlight I feel
1088
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:37,000
like was one of the better
projects that they came out
1089
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,920
with.
I really enjoyed it.
1090
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,920
I really want to see that
character again.
1091
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,280
Now as far as the Eternals go,
we know we're not getting
1092
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,440
Eternals in live action, but if
y'all want to throw them in some
1093
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,080
other projects like y'all have
done the animation, I wouldn't
1094
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,280
be mad at that.
I really.
1095
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,200
Only only if they could figure
out a way to bring Icarus back.
1096
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,520
Well, yeah, that too.
Yeah, only if they could just
1097
01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:59,880
see the thing about.
Jacob.
1098
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,160
Jacob.
That's him, but. 00 And how
1099
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:11,800
terrifying is a zombie ghost?
Like how freaking scary is that?
1100
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,560
She would have been even more
scary if Blade Night wasn't
1101
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,920
there.
Blade Night was like, oh, let me
1102
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,360
sit here and figure out your
thing.
1103
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,440
Oh, OK, gotcha.
I was like, oh boy.
1104
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:27,640
Did you notice how his costume
turned started becoming more and
1105
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:32,400
more black because he was more
blade than he was moonlight?
1106
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,400
Because that that is a skill
that he has.
1107
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:42,000
Yeah, but I mean, I would, I
would even love to see like you
1108
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,680
had Blade show up at the end of
Eternals talking to Dane
1109
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,960
Whitman, who was going to be
what?
1110
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,120
Was the.
Black.
1111
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:57,160
Knight so I mean you already
you're already teasing both of
1112
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,280
those characters.
I don't mind seeing the bland
1113
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,160
that I would still love to see
Kate Harrington be able to do
1114
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,080
what he was supposed to do, but
I already know we're not going
1115
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,120
to get that so and.
Oh oh oh and it also helps
1116
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,360
because all of the fanboys
online were a little bit
1117
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:17,520
upsetting how quickly Wesley
Snipes Blade dispatched Azazel
1118
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:22,880
and like 20 seconds in Deadpool
and Wolverine.
1119
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,160
Oh, it's.
The same thing.
1120
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,640
That's that's what he does like,
that's his job.
1121
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:34,520
Yeah.
So he kills demons and vampires
1122
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:39,440
who apparate and disapparate
everywhere and turn invisible.
1123
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:40,440
He.
Right.
1124
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,600
So Ghost was like, she was
nothing to him.
1125
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,640
Yeah.
I mean, she was badass 'cause
1126
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,800
she took out all of the
daughters, she took out all the
1127
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:54,520
widows like nothing.
But they weren't, you know, they
1128
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,440
weren't necessarily trained to
deal with someone of ghost
1129
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,280
caliber.
Yeah, they, they don't deal.
1130
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,480
They don't deal with things that
go bumping the night on a daily
1131
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,800
basis.
Yeah, Natasha, I think Natasha
1132
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,520
is the only one.
And now Elena may be a little
1133
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:12,960
bit so.
But yeah, I I want to see these
1134
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:17,680
characters again.
I think they said they're
1135
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,040
they're leaving it open as far
as whether they're going to do a
1136
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,760
second season of Marvel Zombies.
I don't think there are plans to
1137
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,640
do it.
But of course the ending of it
1138
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,480
kind of left it open-ended like,
OK, yeah.
1139
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,640
So this is something we.
Can and it's not.
1140
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,560
This is wide open.
Yeah, so I don't know if we'll
1141
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,400
see them back.
John Walker just got torn apart
1142
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,200
in my background.
It's.
1143
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,600
All we can do is is tell people,
tell people to watch it because
1144
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:54,200
Disney's going to look at the
numbers and if if it doesn't hit
1145
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,520
that magic number of people.
Watching whatever that magic
1146
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,400
number.
Whatever that magic number is,
1147
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,840
they're not going to do it that
season.
1148
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:06,480
Like they announced that season
3 of X-Men and we haven't.
1149
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,240
They haven't even released
season 2 yet.
1150
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,760
X-Men 90970 and Daredevil Born
Again has been renewed for
1151
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,680
season 3 already.
So they must hit the magic
1152
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,600
number.
Yeah, so I mean, or just the
1153
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,560
people want it, you know, and
I'm gonna be honest, we, we
1154
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,080
haven't talked about Daredevil
Born Again yet because I
1155
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:31,000
literally just got into like
Daredevil earlier this year.
1156
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:38,200
I was kind of, I was kind of
lukewarm on season 1 of
1157
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,359
Daredevil Born Again.
You know, it's like I got to the
1158
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:45,880
point where I like the
characters, but I don't know.
1159
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,720
And I it could just be the
whole, I don't know.
1160
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,359
I kind of feel like Daredevil
was in his.
1161
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,760
I feel like he was in his Edward
Cullen phase.
1162
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,479
Like, yes, this is what I want,
but I'm so bad for you.
1163
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,920
I'm going to stay over here.
Like the way that he was with
1164
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,120
Karen, especially after what
happened with Froggy, it's just
1165
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:12,000
kind of, he was, you know, he
had gotten to the point where he
1166
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,120
was like, I'm not going to do
this anymore.
1167
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,760
I'm not going to be this this
hero anymore because people keep
1168
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,640
getting hurt.
I keep losing people.
1169
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,600
And, you know, that whole
existential crisis and it just
1170
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:28,439
got to a point where I was just
like, can you stop complaining?
1171
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,240
Just go kick some ass.
Just just do it.
1172
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,520
I mean, I don't know.
It wasn't bad.
1173
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,279
It wasn't bad.
It's just I think I was
1174
01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:43,880
expecting more and then because
you didn't have Karen and Foggy
1175
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,680
in that first season.
I don't know.
1176
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,840
Especially coming off of the
original series because I
1177
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:56,200
literally went from watching the
original series and then into
1178
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,720
that went.
And also probably because I
1179
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,280
didn't watch the other defender
shows in between.
1180
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,600
So I think there are some things
that I was missing.
1181
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:10,720
It was just, I wanted to love it
and I didn't like, I liked it.
1182
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,400
I'm excited that there's a
second season coming out.
1183
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:18,800
I love, I love the characters.
It was, I don't, I don't know.
1184
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,560
It's just, I don't know,
Something about it just didn't
1185
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:28,000
strike with me, but I'm, I'm
probably in the in the minority
1186
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,840
of that as well.
You know, there are other people
1187
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,120
who've been wanting for that
character come back.
1188
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,920
So that could be where they're
getting those numbers from or
1189
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,640
where they're getting that
momentum.
1190
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,440
Like, oh, OK, we haven't even
aired season 2 yet, but let's go
1191
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:45,000
ahead and renew for season 3.
The buzz must be there.
1192
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:48,280
You know, I I just needed to
pick up for some of these other
1193
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:53,720
characters because I know there
are people who are mixed as far
1194
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,680
as some of the things that have
come out in the MCU since end
1195
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,360
game.
But some of these characters are
1196
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,960
really good characters.
Some of these stories are really
1197
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,640
good stories and I really feel
like they deserve a chance to
1198
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,640
grow into something before it's
just one movie and oh, we're
1199
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,760
just done with them.
Like you're not even giving them
1200
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,800
a chance to find their footing.
You.
1201
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,840
Know I know what we won't see
again.
1202
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,000
We won't see another Secret
Invasion.
1203
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,640
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Please.
1204
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,360
I, I, I don't.
I'm good on that.
1205
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,080
I don't need to see nothing else
about that shit.
1206
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,480
No, no the.
Only thing I need to see is
1207
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,960
what's your name?
What's the name character?
1208
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:41,720
The what's the the the two the
two women characters who were
1209
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,760
like the best part of that whole
series.
1210
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:49,480
Of Secret Invasion.
Yeah, like what's her name?
1211
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:50,400
What's the name?
The.
1212
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:56,280
Gia.
Like tear like when a guy or and
1213
01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:00,360
the older, the older lady that
was like a you know, what's her
1214
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:01,680
name?
I can't think of her name.
1215
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:02,880
Yeah.
Oh, I'll tell you.
1216
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,640
Gia, Gia, Yeah.
And.
1217
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:10,360
Parks character.
Like like the one, the one that
1218
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,480
was like the director that was
like all sarcastic and shit
1219
01:12:13,480 --> 01:12:15,640
like.
Oh yeah, I know who you're
1220
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,720
talking about.
Yeah, but like those those two
1221
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,920
characters I care about in that
series, I think everyone else
1222
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,040
can go fly.
Go fly a fucking kite.
1223
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,760
I can give a fuck, more or less.
I I I can take it or leave it.
1224
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,040
But the worst, the worst thing
that series did was kill Maria
1225
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,160
Hill.
That that was the worst thing.
1226
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,120
So if y'all want to bring, if
y'all want to correct that and
1227
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,280
bring and, and bring her back
like I, I don't know what y'all
1228
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,680
can do.
Maybe that wasn't even Maria.
1229
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,120
Maybe that was a score.
I I don't know, I don't care.
1230
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,040
Bring Maria Hill back because
yeah, that was the worst thing
1231
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:53,720
that they could have done.
But yeah, but you know, going
1232
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:58,960
getting back to the zombies.
I actually, I, I really did
1233
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,920
enjoy this series.
I, I think I enjoyed this much
1234
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,040
more than I did What If season
3.
1235
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:10,560
And again, because What If
season 3, I think for me kind of
1236
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,360
felt disjointed because you had
kind of like a running story
1237
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,480
with the first two seasons and
then you kind of only sprinkled
1238
01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:19,640
that here and there in the third
season.
1239
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,040
Third season was more of an
anthology and because that's not
1240
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:28,080
what I was expecting, I think my
expectations weren't met With
1241
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,360
this show.
Everything is kind of cohesive.
1242
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:35,520
Everything runs together.
There's one story, one thread
1243
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,040
that's running through and even
carrying over from the Marvel
1244
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:44,160
Zombies episodes of What If?
I just, I felt like it was
1245
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,520
better.
And then, you know, again, one
1246
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,880
of the things I love about the
MCU is what they do with
1247
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,600
relationships and just not just
romantic relationships, just
1248
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,920
relationships in general, having
people that you never expect to
1249
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,960
see together and fighting on the
same side or being friends or
1250
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:06,440
having that kind of camaraderie.
They do it very well in the MCU
1251
01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:08,360
and in the animation is no
different.
1252
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,600
That was one of the things I
loved about What If, and that's
1253
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,200
one of the things I love about
this one.
1254
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,360
It just sucks that most of them
ended up dying before the end of
1255
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,160
it.
But you know, I mean, this is
1256
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,000
zombie apocalypse.
What do you expect?
1257
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:22,920
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
1258
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:29,000
But so is this something that
you would want to see more of,
1259
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:34,200
even though it's zombies,
Anthony, but just story wise in
1260
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,960
general, is this something that
you would be interested in
1261
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:42,920
continuing, especially given the
kind of cliffhangery, you know,
1262
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:47,520
finale?
I mean, I kind of, I'm, I'm kind
1263
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,000
of OK with the story and how
it's going.
1264
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,600
So I think I, I, I mean, I would
like to see the story in.
1265
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:58,760
So I hope they do a season 2
because I kind of like the idea
1266
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,120
of, of RiRi having come up with
a, a cure, right?
1267
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:09,200
Number one, Well, maybe not a
cure, but sort of like a is the
1268
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,880
vaccine.
I guess it would be a treatment
1269
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,280
really, because she did it after
she was bitten.
1270
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:19,960
So it it'll be cool to see that
and what she meant by hacking
1271
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,480
the single.
And we know where Wanda, but
1272
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:24,440
she's doing what she did to the
as guardians.
1273
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:28,000
You know, she's making
everything look a certain way
1274
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,160
and be a certain way for
everybody, which is not really
1275
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,840
fixing the problem.
So you're you're right.
1276
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,640
It's it's just like what she did
in Westview.
1277
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,440
It's the same thing, just on a
larger scale.
1278
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,920
Yeah.
OK.
1279
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,240
Mike, what about you?
It's something you would like to
1280
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:48,040
continue.
Yeah.
1281
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:57,400
I, here's the thing, I wouldn't,
I, I want to see more of 'cause
1282
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,320
I wouldn't, I'm, I'm not sure if
I want to see more of the zombie
1283
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,280
stuff.
I want to see more of the things
1284
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,840
that they've shown in here.
Like the first episode was
1285
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,680
basically a Young Avengers
teaser.
1286
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,920
I mean, it's like with with with
the three of with Miss Marvel,
1287
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,920
RiRi and Kate Bishop is
basically young, young Young
1288
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,880
Avengers teaser.
I'm like, just give me fucking
1289
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,720
Young Avengers already.
Because they're going to be,
1290
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,560
they're going to be regular.
Old Avengers in a minute.
1291
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,560
Yeah, they're.
Going to be old family Avengers
1292
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,080
and shit.
I'd love to see, like you said,
1293
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:32,840
I'd love to see moon night go on
moon night.
1294
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,960
I still want to see Blade.
Well, I want to see this.
1295
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,880
See, I am curious to see how
this ends, how it turns out.
1296
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,600
But I'm thinking that I mean,
this is like a zombie story.
1297
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,480
So I'm not expecting it.
I'm not really expecting a happy
1298
01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:50,520
ending out of this.
Yeah, it's like I'm I'm kind of
1299
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:55,280
expecting either Earth's gonna
be torched or once gonna leak
1300
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,800
through on a ship and or go
through the quantum realm
1301
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,680
because we have to remember in
the in the in the what if
1302
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:06,640
episode, she would wasn't a wasp
was infected in the quantum
1303
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,560
realm.
So who's to say that there's not
1304
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,760
another, not a whole fleet of
Quantum Realm zombies somewhere
1305
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,760
coming through somewhere?
Oh, that would be horrible.
1306
01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:20,320
So it was like, can you, I mean,
can you really stop zombies in
1307
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,720
the quantum realm from going
wherever the fuck they want to?
1308
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,680
And and other than RiRi and
Kamala, is there anyone left?
1309
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,000
Like is there anyone left to
save?
1310
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,640
We, I mean, it could be it's
like we don't, we only really
1311
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,280
focused on a small, we only
focused on America and it's
1312
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:43,680
basically America and part of
Norway wherever, wherever New
1313
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,320
Asgard is, that's those are only
two places that we've been.
1314
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:53,840
OK, Yeah.
And and and and the the Wizard
1315
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,880
Wakanda Wakanda and Karp Kermit
cards.
1316
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,360
Those are the only things.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
1317
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,440
Those are really only the only
things that we.
1318
01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:09,120
Yeah.
And we're saying what they're
1319
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,680
doing in tallow.
Where's Santi's?
1320
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,560
Where's Santi's?
Where is she?
1321
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:14,960
That's what I just literally
said.
1322
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,240
I said.
I wonder what they're doing over
1323
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,560
in tallow.
Yeah, they're, they're not
1324
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,560
opening those.
They're not opening the the
1325
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,120
portals under there.
Oh.
1326
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,680
Absolutely not.
That's that's a.
1327
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,440
Whole other that looks like a.
New problem like eat everybody
1328
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:32,160
trying to come in there.
So it's like, you know, trees
1329
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,280
can't turn into zombies, so
they're fine.
1330
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:35,640
They ain't got worried about
shit.
1331
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,480
Yeah.
And obviously no one's got the
1332
01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:42,520
brains to figure out the pattern
anyway, so.
1333
01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:45,520
True.
Yeah.
1334
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:51,840
Yeah.
OK, but it's it's kind of like,
1335
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:59,240
OK, so if RiRi has a cure or if
she has a way to fix things,
1336
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,320
what does that look like?
Like does that mean that she
1337
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,560
cures all the people who are
zombies and still walking
1338
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,680
around?
So what does that mean when when
1339
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:13,000
she cures everyone, will Captain
America die anyway since he only
1340
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,440
has half a body?
Like I.
1341
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:18,360
Don't.
I don't think it's I don't think
1342
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,640
it's a cure.
I think it's a treatment for
1343
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,120
bites.
Like she may be able to save
1344
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,720
Shang Shi OK.
So she can save the people who
1345
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:31,680
are currently alive, but not
necessarily turn the zombies
1346
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,080
back or.
I think.
1347
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,960
It's they're dead.
Like, I think, I think if I
1348
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,200
don't think she can, she can
make people revert from being a
1349
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,120
zombie.
I think like if it's like a
1350
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,800
battle, it's like a battlefield
cure.
1351
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,880
It's like if someone gets
bitten, she's like, oh, they're
1352
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,040
like oaks.
It's like those people, they're,
1353
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,720
it's.
Like EpiPen, like if you're, if
1354
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,080
you're having, if you're having
reaction, you just go and you're
1355
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,000
good.
That's that's basically.
1356
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,000
They're the cane.
They're the cane.
1357
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,840
They're walking around the the
cane.
1358
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,800
They're dead, OK.
Yeah.
1359
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,120
Yeah.
Well, OK.
1360
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,720
Yeah, OK.
They ain't coming back.
1361
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:14,840
They ain't no, they ain't come
if they.
1362
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:19,480
Captain America is not that that
that ass is not walking through
1363
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:20,840
the door.
It's just not.
1364
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,280
Awesome, his legs trying to
keep.
1365
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:30,840
His ass is gone also.
I want I want to see what.
1366
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,220
Happened because because wasp
was getting ready to bite spider
1367
01:20:33,220 --> 01:20:36,040
man in half I'm like you can't
do my boy like that like damn it
1368
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,920
like y'all got.
I got to figure out whatever
1369
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:42,360
happened when she when her and
when Wanda and Miss Marble held
1370
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:47,520
hands and that and whatever kind
of explosion or or shockwave
1371
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,480
went back through everything.
Like I want to see what I do
1372
01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:54,360
want to see what happened to
that, because I mean, I mean,
1373
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,320
maybe she just froze everything
in time.
1374
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,600
Maybe she just like she put or
she froze, she like.
1375
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,520
She stuck a pen in it and was
like, we'll come back to this.
1376
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,600
Right, 'cause she figured that
shit out.
1377
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,760
I have, I have forgotten that.
That's how vision saved Scott.
1378
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,680
He got his head off his body.
I did too.
1379
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,240
I was like, wait, what?
I was like, oh, that's right.
1380
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,880
Yeah.
But OK.
1381
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:26,200
So overall, we all enjoyed it.
We all enjoyed the series and
1382
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,880
overall we would not be opposed
if they decided to do a Season
1383
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,040
2.
Yeah, OK.
1384
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,120
Alright, well, unless I mean, do
you guys have any final thoughts
1385
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,880
or is there anything else?
Shout out to Shout out to Marvel
1386
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,240
continuing to please Hanukkah by
throwing Eternals things in
1387
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,920
everything that they do.
I mean, I'm.
1388
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,160
I'm never going to apologize for
liking that movie The third time
1389
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,000
that they.
This is the third time that
1390
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,640
they've thrown and thrown an
Eternals reference in something
1391
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,080
that something new that they've
done.
1392
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,960
So I'm like, why don't I just go
ahead and defy, defy everybody
1393
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,400
and just do Eternals too, or
just do Eternals too as a four
1394
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:09,360
part episode or just like, yeah,
I mean, just it was just, I mean
1395
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,640
give people that apparently
either they really want.
1396
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,880
Give me what I want.
I'm the.
1397
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:17,480
People give me what?
I want.
1398
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:23,160
My my final thought is, is
Icarus really just trying to
1399
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:27,640
make sure she doesn't wake up
the?
1400
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,400
Oh man, wake up, wake up, wake
up.
1401
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:37,960
TMX because if she does, can
Wyla turn him into a zombie?
1402
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,720
Probably.
And if she turns the celestial
1403
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,200
into a zombie, I mean, he's
going to turn the other ones
1404
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,720
into zombies, nobody would be a
problem.
1405
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,960
Yeah, you're exactly right.
Terrifying.
1406
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:54,920
To think about.
And on that note, that's it,
1407
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,520
unless you had anything else to
say, Anthony.
1408
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,800
No, I think I've disturbed
myself for the night.
1409
01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:08,200
Yeah, I'm good.
OK, and on that note, that is it
1410
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,480
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1411
01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:14,640
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1412
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,400
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1413
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1414
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,400
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1415
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,480
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1416
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