IT: Welcome to Derry (Season 1 Episode 1) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #382

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I'm here

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with Anthony, Michelle, and Dina
from Drunk and Blurty is joining

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us.
And we are going to step out of

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our comfort zone.
We're going to get away from

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fantasy a little bit and get
into some horror because there

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is a new Stephen King product
out there online.

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The television sets it, is it
welcome to dairy.

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And as Stephen King fans, we
decided we were going to go

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ahead and try to tackle this.
So welcome everyone.

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Let's get into it first.
Let's talk about are you guys,

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have you guys read the book?
Have you seen the original

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movie?
Have you seen the updated It

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movies?
Like what, how, how deep into

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the IT pantheon are you guys?
And then we're going to start

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with you, since since you're my
usual Co conspirator when it

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comes to Stephen King stuff.
Well, I, I read it quite a long

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time ago.
So some of the stuff when I see

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it, I'm like, OK, I, I kind of
remember that.

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But there, there's a lot that I
don't remember.

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I did remember watching the
original TV series with Tim

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Curry as Pennywise.
Classic, great, great movie.

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He was great.
I do like Skarsgard, however.

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Tim Curry was just amazing
'cause he was like funny,

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delightful and then he was
terrified.

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Skarsgard is just terrifying.
All the time terrified all.

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The time, yeah.
And you know, and watch the the

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most recent movies.
So I'm, I'm pretty familiar with

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with what's going on in the
show.

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And, you know, I'm a Stephen
King person, so I got all this.

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It's a dark tower.
I don't do Dark Tower, OK, That

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they can see over there.
But everything else, yeah, I'm

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kind of familiar with.
So I'm.

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I'm enjoying it.
Yeah.

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There's a lot to talk about, so.
OK, Yeah.

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OK, while ago my experience, I
haven't read, I haven't read the

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book, but I was present when the
show came on in the 90s.

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I watched it.
What did it premiere on the

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Saturday?
No Sunday and then the next day

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was Monday.
Yep, I was there when the movies

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came out, was there for it, and
I'm here for it now.

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I do love Stephen King, but
haven't read any of his books

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except for one, and I still
don't remember the name of it.

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I just remember it was about
Prince.

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I think so, yeah.
It was my junior year of high

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school.
Oh, OK.

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OK.
Yeah, I was going to.

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It was part of ELA class.
So that's it.

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Oh, OK.
I'm excited to be here.

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I'm trying to think.
I'm like, I don't think I was

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ever assigned any Stephen King
in in high school.

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No, not me.
Either he was a cool teacher, he

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was a cool teacher, so I love
that class.

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OK.
What about you, Dana?

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So yeah, I actually 'cause I was
obsessed with every Stephen King

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movie there ever was back when I
was a kid.

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And so I watched Tim Curry and
of course, that still scars me

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to this day.
I was just telling him, telling

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y'all a little while ago, like
I, I fell asleep on this 'cause

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I was a little tired trying to
rewatch it.

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I could never fall asleep on Tim
Curry 'cause he had me in a

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chokehold.
And then I watched the, the, the

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two movies, the recent ones with
the newer cast when they came

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out, 'cause I love the story.
And so I eventually went ahead

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and read the book 'cause I was
like, you know, I ain't never

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read this book.
And so I, I read it and, and

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it's, yeah, Stephen King just
always so in depth and he's, he

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feels such a world.
But then it's also like so hard

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to get through some of the bad
things that happened, and

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sometimes it's scarier reading
what he wrote than watching the

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movies and stuff.
So yeah, that's my history with

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it.
And that's why I'm not reading

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the book yet.
You also got to get by some of

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the cultural stuff too.
Too.

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Yeah, means have changed.
I'm not.

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I'm not reading it.
And I hate clowns so they

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freaky.
Yeah, so I think for me, I, I

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read it in high school, I think
probably either my junior or my

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senior year and watched the
original miniseries when it came

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out.
I'm kind of like everybody else.

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Tim Curry was like amazing as
Pennywise.

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But also because he has that, he
has a little bit of humor to it

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as well.
Like Anthony said, I, I did

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watch the the newer versions
with Bill Skarsgard and it took

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me, it took me like 2 years
before I would even watch it

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because just watching the
previews, I was like, this looks

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a little scarier than I want it
to be.

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And I don't know if I was ready
for that.

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And yeah, his version of
Pennywise is terrifying.

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So yeah, so yeah, I just, yeah,
I love the story.

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I love the the kind of, I don't
know, something about Stephen

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King is like it draws you in and
it makes you sit there and watch

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even though you don't want to.
Like you want to sit there and

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look at this.
Like this first episode was

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bananas from literally from the
start to to the end.

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It was just kind of like, I
don't know if I can handle this.

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And then we're not going to talk
about the second episode yet,

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but I watched the second episode
today and I was just like, I

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don't know if I can do this.
It's just it's so much.

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It's so much.
But OK, so, so let's let's talk

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about this because we are in the
later part of 1961, early part

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of 1962.
I think when we start out the

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the episode we are, we're
looking at a character named

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Maddie who has snuck into the
theater in Derry and is chased

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out in those opening since we
kind of get a glimpse into some

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of the characters that we're
going to meet throughout this

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episode.
I think one of the things that I

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do like about this first
episode, again, this is 1962,

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we're in Derry, so we're in a a
period of time where equal

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rights is still not a thing.
But you kind of see it in dairy.

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You do see a little bit of the
racism of of the 1960s they're

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dealing with.
But you also have some

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characters in the show who are
African American and they appear

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to be big players that they will
be major characters in this

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particular show.
Major handling in particular.

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We know just from kind of
looking at the old lore and

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everything, he is actually Mike
Hanlon's grandfather from the

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original.
It's story.

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So we do know that that's going
to be prominent not just for

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this story, but for the quote UN
quote future.

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It's story to come.
But I like the way that they

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don't shy away from what the
issues are in that particular

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time.
Like you have the one military

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person who does not want to give
handling the the respect that

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he's deserved due to his
ranking.

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And you have the the general who
comes in and he was like, hey,

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we don't play that shit here.
You going to show him his

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respect?
I I liked it, but I was like, I

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feel like this is going to be a
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in even in the original, it's
even though that takes place in

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the 80s, we do still see a lot
of that racism and a lot of

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that, you know, that
uncomfortableness that they deal

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with.
And I think we were talking

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about this kind of off screen.
But one of the things about

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Stephen King's works is they do
tend to have a lot of racism in

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it because he also writes a lot
of his stories taking place in

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that time.
I don't know if there's a rhyme

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or reason for that or if it's
just to.

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Yeah, I.
Don't know.

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It's it's always the even
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Like you can't write about the
60s and not have that be a part

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of the story, or at least be in
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Yeah, I know he's definitely
been criticized about like his

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use of the N word and just kind
of like how he does, he double

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downs on the racism, like if
it's gonna be racist, it's gonna

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be racist.
And he doesn't hold back.

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And I know he's been criticized
about that and 'cause he it

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didn't stop in the time back in
them days in a lot of his in

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some of his books.
So I think people, you know,

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still, you know, feel some kind
of worry about it.

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But I do think that it is, like
you said, gives context because

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let's just be real.
And he ain't living in this

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small white town and people are
just accepting him.

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That's just not.
Yeah, I.

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Know so it's something that has
to be like talked about, it has

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to be shown.
Yeah, yeah.

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And I think that's one of the
things too about, you know,

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about that uncomfortableness.
Yes, there's a lot of it in his

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stories.
And and, you know, we all get a

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little uncomfortable when we
hear the N word coming out of a,

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a particular, you know, a
particular set of people's

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mouths.
But also the fact that he really

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in his stories is basically
saying, look, this shit is

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unacceptable.
Yeah, there are still people out

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there who, who, who talk like
this, who say this, yes, that

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that is that is definitely the
case.

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But I like the fact that he's
kind of like, this is not cool,

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you know?
And almost always with his

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characters, you know, the ones
who are overly racist, they

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always get their comeuppance.
And that's another thing I like

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about.
And, and, and I always give him

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credit for for being a popular
mainstream writer who wasn't

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afraid to make people of color
central characters.

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He he always had a tendency to
do that and I always give him

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credit for that.
So it does make sense that he

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would make the racism kind of
over the top because you know,

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from those characters
perspective, that's probably how

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it would have.
Felt how they viewed it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, I mean, I haven't read the

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book, but is it really over the
top racism or was it back then?

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Could that be realistic?
But over the top to us.

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Yeah.
I was going to say that.

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Yeah, yeah.
And maybe even a little bit

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underneath realism.
Yeah, because again, a lot of

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his stories take place in the
Sixties, 70s, early 80s, when

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that was still kind of
prevalent.

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And then I think we also have to
think about the fact that he's

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writing about stories that are
up, up north.

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They didn't have as much racism
up north as it as it was in the

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South.
Like in the South, it was

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rampant.
You know, up north they were a

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little bit better.
There were still some racism

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there, but I don't think it was
as bad as it was in the South.

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But, you know, like Anthony just
said, it seems over the top to

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us because we're not used to or
we weren't used to people being

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that free, saying those types of
things and those kind of

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hostilities and everything.
So, yeah, when you read it,

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especially when you're a younger
kid reading it, because like I

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said, I started reading Stephen
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I think I was like 15 or 16.
And it's kind of one of those

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things where I was like, Oh my
God, they let they allowed this

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in a book.
You know, it was just it was

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kind of a shock back then.
But yeah, he he hasn't shield

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away from it, you know, and I
think some people, at least what

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I've heard older because I
haven't I'm gonna be honest, I

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haven't read most of his newer
stuff because for a while I kind

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of got away from the horror
genre.

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But I do know that there have
been some complaints about

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people, like, I mean, from
people about like, OK, you know,

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we get it.
This is how things were.

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This is how people talk.
But you don't have to put in all

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your books.
You know, it's just kind of one

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of those things where it's just
like, let's let's try something

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different.
But I don't know if I, I don't

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know if it bothers me that much
because of the fact that it,

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like you say, it's, it's just
it, it's a narrative from the

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way times were back then.
And that's the period of time

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that he was writing about.
I mean, truth be told, it

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bothers me now in 2025 hearing
people say that freely on social

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media and in the streets than it
does in a work of fiction, you

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know, But OK, we got to talk
about this, this, this opening

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that kind of lets us know, OK,
yes, you are definitely in

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dairy.
Because when the when when the

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show starts out, it's kind of
it's kind of chill.

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You know, you have this
character Maddie, he seems to be

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some kind of like almost like a
little outcast.

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He's at a movie theater by
himself.

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He's the only child in a movie
that I guess is it.

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It's not that he's not supposed
to be there, but he didn't pay

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for a ticket to be in there.
So he gets chased out by the

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usher.
And, you know, we kind of see

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his interaction with one of the
other kids in the town named

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Ronnie.
Her dad works at the movie

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theater.
He kind of, but hold on.

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He was Hanukkah, you bypassing.
He's in the movie theater.

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What?
What?

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Who am I bypassing?
I'm sorry, the pacifier got me.

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I'm like, wait here, hold on.
I was.

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Don't get to that.
I was.

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Going no, you get a description.
And as he sat there with his

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pacifier mouth while watching
the music, man.

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Yeah, 'cause what I was going to
say, it's called it.

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Welcome to dairy.
The reason why it starts out

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chill, I'm sitting here, it's
like, hey, when is the

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shenanigans going to begin?
Then you should have passed away

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OK.
The whole beginning.

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See the pacifier part, It was
it, it came off as weird to me,

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but I didn't like, I was just
kind of like, OK, that's some

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kind of emotional crutch.
I'm, I'm sitting here looking at

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him.
You know, this is a kid who is

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sitting in the theater when he's
hiding and, you know, Ronnie's

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father's talking to the usher.
He was like, yo, man, you know,

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you know what his family is
like, just leave the kid alone.

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And this is when you kind of get
an idea that something's not all

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that right with his family and
then.

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Yeah, but but you know the
shenanigans.

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You know the shenanigans are
coming.

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But the shenanigans haven't
started yet.

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That's.
The thing.

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But you knew.
You knew it was.

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Coming, This is chill compared
to what happens in the next

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scene.
That's all I'm saying.

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It was chill.
This is about a kid who just

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basically snuck into a movie.
He was hiding.

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And then it's like you kind of
look at this kid.

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Like I said, he he seems like he
might be a little bit of an

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outcast.
You already get a hint that

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there's something not right with
his family life.

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The kid has a he has a bruised
eye, like someone punched him in

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the face.
He's sucking on a pacifier as a

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as a means of comfort.
I get it.

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It's just like the little kid in
the raincoat want to play with

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his brother boat floating down
the street.

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Oh, it's so nice.
And.

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Innocent.
Right.

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Up until the next.
Don't you?

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Don't you see the parallels?
I do.

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But what I'm saying is if, if we
didn't know that this was

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welcome to Dairy, if we didn't
know this was a It story, if

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they had just started it that
way in the movie theater, you

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would think, OK, this is just
about a delinquent child.

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You wouldn't think any of the
horror stuff.

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But clearly, clearly, clearly.
It.

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Welcome to dairy.
They didn't try to fool you or

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fake you or anything.
I know, but.

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And they started out just like
with the boy wanting to play

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with his brother with a sailboat
outside in the.

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Rain.
It's so.

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Compared to what?
Oh, yeah.

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Just like the boy gets his arm
ripped off.

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Only because I'm watching it.
Because, you know, Michelle

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watched.
Yeah, she watched it chapter 1

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and I was watching like man,
that's like a 5 year old and we

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just sitting here watch his arm
get eaten off.

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Yeah, yeah.
That's.

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The good thing about Stephen
King also that is like he don't.

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Yeah, so watching.
So watching this little boy

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sitting in the theater with the
pacifier, I'm sitting here

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waiting, OK?
It's coming, it's coming, it's

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coming, it's coming, it's
coming.

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And how bad is coming?
We don't know.

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But it's coming because you knew
you were on your seat like.

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And that's the thing, because it
was so, like I said, it was so

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chill at the beginning.
And then when it was just

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basically about him getting
chased out the theater, I was

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like, OK, they're going to drag
this out.

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They're going to make us wait
for it.

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No, I was wrong.
Oh, no, I didn't think they were

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going to make us wait.
That's why I said I was on edge

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when he was in the movie
theater.

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That's why you saying chill,
That one chill.

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And he's smacking on the
pacifier.

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I'm like, oh, this boy about to
go.

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He is about to go.
How he's going, I don't know.

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I'm scared.
I'm sorry.

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I'm skipping, I'm skipping the
head.

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So he hijacking, right?
I'm like, wait, when?

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When did what 11 year olds?
OK, no Jack hitchhiking.

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Hitchhiking.
I'm sorry.

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That was the thing that set me
on edge when I saw him walking

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and he's he's.
A daughter, he's gone.

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Here we go.
But then.

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But then he gets picked.
When?

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When did you realize that family
wasn't right?

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I was scared from the beginning,
just because it was it.

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I was scared me.
Too.

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So when they when they picked
them up and they were all nice

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and stuff and they were like,
where are you going?

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He said.
Anywhere but Darren, they were

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like, well we're going to
Portland.

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I was like get the fuck out the
car now.

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Because most people be like, no,
we're going to take you home.

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Your family is going to miss
you.

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And I said, oh, this boy is
going to die horribly.

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This is the other.
Thing we got to think about this

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is the 60s.
They did that shit back then.

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I mean, if you think about all
of the old TV shows we've

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watched where kids are hijacked,
I mean when they are hitchhiking

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and stuff, they're all younger
kids, they're all getting in

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like trucks and all this other
stuff.

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But we're not questioning them
not staying.

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Where is your.
Parents, it was it was the

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family because typically a
family picking up a kid is going

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to get them home.
He was a single man in a truck.

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Sure, he'd be like where you
want to go, I'll take you.

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I understand you got to run away
from life, but not a family with

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a pregnant mother and we didn't.
Even know she was pregnant until

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he had her stomach.
He did hit her.

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Summer he did hit the summer,
but I thought we saw that she

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was pregnant it.
Was great.

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You didn't see it until until he
was trying to grab the steering

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wheel and the father knocked him
off and he hit her in the

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stomach.
That's when we realized she was

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pregnant.
OK.

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But it's still that he knocked
her up after he she makes the

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other kids spell vasectomy, but
she they don't pan to her belly.

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At that point, it doesn't
matter.

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She had two kids in the
backseat.

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They got picnic baskets and
stuff in suitcases.

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They're nice families, so they
should have been like, let's

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take you home.
No, the moment they did it

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first.
Where do you live?

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Yeah, the moment they picked him
up and they were like, OK, so we

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got you in here, you walk Where?
Where?

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Where?
Where are you going?

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And he was like anywhere but
there.

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They're like where we're going
to Portland.

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I was like, first of all, y'all
are in Derry, Maine.

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It don't matter if you going to
Portland.

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What?
What is the other Portland?

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That's near Portland, NY.
Or something is in Maine.

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I think it's Portland.
Maine OK, so I was like y'all

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just going to go to a whole
nother city and and take the

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child with you don't ask any
other questions like and you

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know, I'm sitting here again,
this is it.

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So we know some fuckery is about
to go on, but I'm sitting here

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trying to think, OK, what would
make a a quote UN quote normal

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family, not question that.
Maybe it was the fact that he

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had the black eye.
Maybe they were looking at that

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like, OK, this is a kid that
clearly needs to get away from

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his his situation.
Maybe we'll just take him a

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little while, you know, take him
a little far away and then we'll

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we'll make a phone call or
something.

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I was like, you know what?
This is not going to end well at

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all.
So then things start getting

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really weird because you have
the older sister that's in the

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back seat and she clearly
doesn't want this kid in the

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car, or at least that's the way
she's acting.

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You have the little brother who
is apparently like, spelling.

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So he just starts randomly
spelling stuff.

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And then the parents start
getting into these weird

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conversations and it's like, OK,
what was it?

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The little girl said something
about she she said something

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nasty to the brother and the mom
says be nice.

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And she was like I can, but I am
nice when I want to be and she's

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like, there's my little harlot
can't keep those legs closed.

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If she tried.
I was like, oh, that took a turn

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real fast.
Right.

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Yeah, but go back to the sister
in the liver.

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Yeah.
I was like, dude, if you don't

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get the fuck out this car, like
just open the door.

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Tuck, Tuck.
I mean she is sniffing.

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I hate liver wet.
That didn't help.

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Not.
Cooked just wet raw liver.

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Yeah, I.
Was like, yeah, I was.

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Like you know what I'm doing
the.

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Visual of her doing that
because.

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Well, they they picked the.
Food.

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I would have taken the penalty
and just opened the door.

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That's why I'm.
Saying tuck and roll, tuck and

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roll, you know?
What they picked the food they

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knew children would hate the
most.

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And it was like, let's let's
play with this.

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I'm like.
But then like this little kid,

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this poor little kid, which if
anything, if this, if this thing

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doesn't teach you anything else,
it teaches you don't get into

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the car with strangers.
Even if it's a family, even if

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they don't do.
Not get into the car with

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strangers because this family
went from seeming normal to

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psychotic in the span of 10
seconds.

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And this boy is sitting here
just watching this and I'm like,

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dude, get out the car already.
But again, he's a kid.

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He's probably in shock.
He's probably scared.

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So he's probably not thinking
like, oh, I need to like his

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fight, flight or what is it?
His fight or flight response was

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not working properly at the
time.

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He's just sitting there looking
at the way all of this is

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unfolding.
And by the time he realizes

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they're crazy is when they
start.

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You know, the mom starts saying,
oh, yeah, we can spell these

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words.
Spell vasectomy.

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What does she say?
Spell vasectomy.

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Spell cadaver smell.
Spell kidnapping.

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And then it was necrosis.
Yeah, like all this trouble.

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I'm like.
What is that so oh, and then

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when she said something about
stabbing, that's when he's

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trying to get out the car.
There's a gas station.

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You can let me out, bro.
You already.

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It's already to they they've
already said necrosis cadaver

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like you're you're done.
You're done.

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Yeah.
So it's out, out, right?

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And then out and then they're
all doing out, they're all

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spelling out.
And then he tries to grab the

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the steering wheel for the from
the dad and dad is like, Oh no,

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I got this and knocks him off.
Like we said, he hits her in her

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stomach and that's when we
realize she's fully pregnant

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then.
No, then then they pan to the

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the little boy and he got the
eyes like Pennywise and

449
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,560
Pennywise eyes.
So they found they found the

450
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,920
key.
Actually, who could do it?

451
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,440
Listen.
Yeah, you're done.

452
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,400
Are you talking about the eyes?
That's going direction.

453
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,520
So.
Creepy listen.

454
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,320
You know, when that kid walked
into the audition, all he had to

455
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,280
do was that, and they were like,
you got the job.

456
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,480
Yeah, right.
You're hired.

457
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,760
You're hired.
But then she goes into labor

458
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,800
and.
I'm sorry, I have to say this,

459
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,480
I'm sorry.
We were eating dinner and we

460
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,520
just eat dinner and we watching
this and when they get to the

461
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,120
out and some definitely came
out.

462
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,720
Anthony was like, I'm done and
I'm staying like.

463
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,600
She's still.
Eating.

464
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,640
I'm still eating like this is so
this is so hot.

465
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,320
I have so many friends who
talked about the fact that they

466
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,680
were actually eating dinner when
that scene came on and I'm like

467
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,960
OK first of all what made y'all
think that you could watch

468
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,600
something based on it while you
are eating like.

469
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,360
There's love.
Away in hell.

470
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,160
See, I can deal with an arm
being bitten off, but a live

471
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,680
birth?
And that kind of birth.

472
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,640
And sorry, that stuff never
ends.

473
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,640
So I just kept on going and
she's still I.

474
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:21,080
Just take my feet.
I said, and it's so crazy

475
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,360
because she's got she's got the
she's got her underwear on and

476
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:28,160
you can see the head trying to
push out of the underwear and

477
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,080
she actually has to move.
I was just like, this is way

478
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,920
more than I was expecting the
Washington.

479
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,520
But she had she has this, this,
this baby.

480
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,800
And everybody kind of stops in
the car and it's quiet.

481
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,840
Even even little Maddie is in
the back trying to figure out

482
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,040
what the hell just happened
because he's like, oh, she just

483
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,160
gave birth to a baby.
I don't think he was thinking

484
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,720
that what came out of this woman
was gonna be when it came out.

485
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:01,960
But the let me tell you, I've
seen a lot of horror.

486
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:10,760
I've seen a lot of monsters.
Nothing prepared me for that

487
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:17,240
fucking demon baby.
And the crazy thing was I I got

488
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,440
spoiled about the demon baby
because literally if you did not

489
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,640
watch this show on the first
night, they had spoilers like

490
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,880
3-4 hours later on the official
Facebook page.

491
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:34,200
So literally I'm scrolling
through Facebook and I see a

492
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,720
video and it's that baby's face
right in the thing.

493
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,800
I was like Nope.
This is why I no because.

494
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,960
Why they do that?
That's so insane to me.

495
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,080
But when I saw that's OK, Nope.
This lets me know I do not need

496
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,440
to watch this before I go to
bed.

497
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,160
I need to give it a day.
I need to wait.

498
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,520
Because that is the thing of
nightmares.

499
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,600
I can't.
Like I've seen demon babies.

500
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:07,080
I've seen like I never ever
like, I mean, I'm fully

501
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,400
expecting someone to come to
Dragon Con with one of those

502
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,120
next year of.
Course, of course.

503
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:19,480
And they're twins.
Listen, it's just that one twin

504
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,240
is absorbing the other twin with
one wing.

505
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,760
The the stuff of nightmares.
And then that thing starts.

506
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,840
She's like, oh, my precious
little beautiful baby, don't

507
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,640
meet the rest of your family.
And this thing starts splitting

508
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,560
all around the car, still
attached by the umbilical cord.

509
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:46,960
I was y'all.
I don't consider myself no punk.

510
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,760
I don't consider myself weak.
That fucking baby.

511
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,480
No, no.
And then we had to see that.

512
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,320
Thing not once but twice in the
episode, we get it at the very

513
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,320
beginning and we get it at the
very end.

514
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,840
But what what's my favorite part
though, is he was like, let me

515
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,960
get my pacifier and when I suck
on this, it's going to

516
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,680
disappear.
Yeah, but then when he does

517
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,440
that, everyone stops and turn,
even the baby.

518
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,960
Rex, are you serious right here?
Like you got a fast.

519
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,280
Back right and then you're.
Ignoring what's happening in

520
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,000
this car.
OK, I got you.

521
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,920
And the baby, yeah, the baby was
like, oh, I got you.

522
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,800
Ignore it because the next thing
we know, we we hear rather than

523
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,880
see the baby, I guess attack him
and you see the pacifier going

524
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,000
floating out of the car into the
sewers and then you see the

525
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,560
light from under the sewers and
then we get the title car.

526
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,720
But I was like, you know, what
if y'all starting out this, this

527
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:59,000
series with this type of Bush,
I'm just, I don't know if I'm, I

528
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:04,880
don't know if I'm like prepared
to deal with the amount of

529
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,640
fuckery we're going to get from
this show.

530
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,120
That was the first 5 minutes.
Yeah.

531
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,200
And what is, what is the?
I just need to know like, and

532
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,760
that's probably going to come
later, but like the significance

533
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,560
of this baby being a baby, like
why did we choose a baby?

534
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,280
It's because it was it because
the kid was a baby.

535
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,720
And it's like he.
Was a no, he's he's it is waking

536
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,200
up.
It's.

537
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,960
Just kind of.
Like a rebirth because it's 27

538
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,200
years later, so it's like a
rebirth.

539
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,320
Yeah, it's, it's in his, it's in
his birthing stages.

540
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,760
It's it's waking up, it's coming
out of hibernation.

541
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,960
So it's starting, starting kind
of small.

542
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,240
And then using and then also
using the fear because at this

543
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,960
time it because even on the
radio they were talking about

544
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,760
bombs and things being mutated,
mutated and stuff.

545
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,240
So that was like a fear at that
time for people.

546
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,840
Yeah, and we know about.
Bombs and mutation and yeah, so.

547
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,200
What year did they say this was,
1960?

548
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,440
It should be not even December
1961 or January 1962, because

549
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:21,640
when we start, when we start the
next scene with Phil on top of

550
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,600
the tower looking at the
airplanes, the date says April.

551
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,240
What was it?
Four months later, April 1962?

552
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,120
I.
Think it was January because

553
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,560
later in the episode there was
fireworks from New Year's and

554
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,200
Maddie was alive.
OK, Yeah, yeah, OK.

555
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,680
But it's still holiday season
'cause they still had like the

556
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,160
Christmas tree at the movie
theater, but with everyone, you

557
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,680
know, still has that up till New
year.

558
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,040
So yeah.
And all of this is right before

559
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,280
the Cuban Missile Crisis.
That's what I was just about to

560
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,320
ask.
It's just cause of the.

561
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,560
Yeah, that's what I was about to
ask.

562
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,000
Yeah.
So that's what is a.

563
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,480
Big thing, yeah.
Yeah, but yeah, so.

564
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,480
So that's the way they decided
to start off this series with,

565
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,640
with the demon baby and the
disappearance of this this

566
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:12,760
Maddie Clements kid.
So yeah, I, I can't say anything

567
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,600
else about this baby yet because
we got to, we got to save it for

568
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,560
the the end of the the episode.
But so at this point, four

569
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,480
months later, Maddie's missing.
We get to meet some of his

570
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,960
friends.
And this is, you know, I say

571
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,480
this and I don't know if this is
just kids in the 60s.

572
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,080
I don't know if this is just the
way white kids interact.

573
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,920
I I just don't know.
But it's like the the way that

574
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,200
his so-called friends were, not
really.

575
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,640
Friends.
Yeah.

576
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,920
Because they wasn't his friends.
That's what Theo was saying.

577
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,560
He was feeling guilty because he
knew that they weren't really

578
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,240
his friend.
Teddy was trying to make it

579
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,600
more.
Phil is like we wasn't his

580
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,719
friends.
His Mama asked us to come to his

581
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,320
birthday party and gave us
candy, paid us to come to his

582
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,960
birthday right?
So they wasn't his.

583
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,560
Friends to pay us money.
Well, it was candy.

584
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,199
It was candy, so you know what
I'm saying?

585
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:27,000
So it wasn't his friends.
Bill and Teddy are friends.

586
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,480
They ride or die, but.
But you know, it's, it is kind

587
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,320
of sad though, because.
Maybe.

588
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,239
People who we not friends with,
who we kind of deal with just

589
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,120
for whatever the reason is just,
you know, so they won't be

590
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,520
lonely at Dragon Con or whatever
we do.

591
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,920
We just kind of bring people
just because you were nice and

592
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,639
we just want people to not feel
alone.

593
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,719
If that person got killed, I
don't know you, will you?

594
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,280
Not really my friend, but I
would be, I would feel some kind

595
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,240
of way if you just up and got
murdered and and, you know, even

596
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:59,480
if we weren't friends, I would
still feel so I get why the

597
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,440
other little boy also feels
guilty because I would feel that

598
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,960
way too, like I wasn't really
trying to be their friend.

599
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,440
But this is very sad, you know?
Right.

600
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,680
What I could have done something
to kind of not have him go

601
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,320
missing or something, you know,
maybe if we involved him more.

602
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,600
Right, right.
Yeah.

603
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,760
He has somebody to kind of like
confide in or you know.

604
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480
Yeah, but it I was just like,
OK, so.

605
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,240
So these are the two friends who
and, and I guess I kind of got

606
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:31,680
the idea that maybe Teddy
probably considered himself a

607
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,880
friend more than Phil does,
because Teddy was the one who

608
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,960
was like, look, he's missing.
He was, he was the one that was

609
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,160
like.
Four months.

610
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,840
No, no, Teddy was just feeling
guilty.

611
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,600
Teddy is exactly what Nina said.
Like, you know what?

612
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,880
Oh man, we, we, we could have
been his friend, you know,

613
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,080
maybe.
We found out later they only

614
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,920
took him up to the The Hideout
1.

615
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,280
One time, one time and he acted
maybe act like this, this is

616
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,160
his, you know, homeboys and
stuff like this, so.

617
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,480
I mean, who was going to
question him?

618
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,080
Nobody wasn't going to know
because.

619
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,760
Yeah, because let me say that
that whole again.

620
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,920
I'm going to not just those
friends, but just the friend

621
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,120
groups and the friend clicks all
together in the show.

622
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,720
Like Marge does not seem like
she is a good friend to Lily to

623
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:31,280
me.
She's one of those kids who was

624
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,480
trying to get in with the
popular girls.

625
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,880
And like all these kids have
have their different little

626
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,880
issues.
Like, you know, Teddy is, he's a

627
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,080
Jewish kid who, I don't know,
his family dynamic was really

628
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,680
weird because you have him, you
have the brother, you have his

629
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,600
parents.
And the parents come off kind

630
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:59,840
of, I don't know, they're like
very quiet and cordial.

631
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,000
And then he says the one little
thing to his dad.

632
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,480
What was it that he asked his
dad?

633
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,640
Oh.
Can, can, Can you imagine

634
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,520
someone keeping, so can someone
keep someone in in a sewer?

635
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,680
Yeah, for that long?
And he's like, dude.

636
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,720
Dad just explodes.
First of all, I have two things

637
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:22,880
to say.
First about the parents and the

638
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,880
adults.
We kind of have to take it all

639
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,720
with a grain of salt because
they are being influenced by it.

640
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,480
So you know their their mood
swings and how they act is not

641
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,040
always going to be normal.
OK.

642
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,440
And and #2 and #2 is a side
note.

643
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,080
I know all three y'all and I
know all three y'all were

644
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,320
popular kids.
I was not a popular kid.

645
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,560
So some of this stuff triggered
me a little bit.

646
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,680
But but yeah, I, I, I I I pushed
through the and 3rd.

647
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,360
Of all I was.
Not the popular kid I was just

648
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,960
one of.
Those kids, whatever, you knew

649
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,440
everybody.
Yeah, but yeah, yeah.

650
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,480
And the sad part is, let's have
a side note.

651
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,480
She's going to say she she knows
all the people that actually

652
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,560
means you were popular.
See that I learned that.

653
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,680
No, no, I learned that because I
did the same thing like about

654
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,560
clicks and popular and people
were like, Oh, you're in the

655
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,800
click, You're popular even at
work.

656
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,400
And I'm like, we're not in the
click and no one's popular.

657
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,400
What are you talking about?
And then I saw it.

658
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,280
And then I realized, Oh, that's
what they mean.

659
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,640
So when you popular and stuff,
you don't think you popular let

660
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,720
you popular.
Sorry.

661
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,680
Yeah.
No, I definitely wasn't popular,

662
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,320
but I went to so many schools
that I had that that filtered

663
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,080
into the one school.
I knew everybody because I knew

664
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,600
them from elementary, from this
school and.

665
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,120
That's and I think that that's
kind of more but as well.

666
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,200
Yeah, but you know, that's a
part under popular.

667
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,520
I ain't mean to start nothing.
I'm just letting y'all know that

668
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,000
as the as the one person who
really wasn't, I'm telling the

669
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,800
three of you, y'all are all
popular.

670
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,640
Even to this day, y'all are
still the popular kids.

671
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,120
That's all I'm going to say and.
We were and we.

672
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,400
Were to disagree.
Right.

673
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,560
And because and because we were
popular in there, because I, I,

674
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,120
we had this discussion, we were
popular in a way because you did

675
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,120
know all the groups and you
could go into different groups

676
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,120
and know what is happening and
they know who you are, correct.

677
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:36,000
OK, you see what I'm saying?
So you're like, well, I wasn't

678
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,200
popular, but you know, this
group of people knew you, this

679
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,680
group of people knew you.
This group of people knew you.

680
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,720
This group of people knew you.
This group of people knew.

681
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,680
You and I think I think what's
what's kind of happened over the

682
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,440
years is it has a negative
connotation and it's not

683
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,720
necessarily a bad thing to to
have them popular, is it that a

684
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:01,920
lot of media has made it, you
know, like Heather's and, you

685
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,080
know, all these other movies and
shows make popular not be a good

686
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,480
thing and.
I I don't.

687
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,240
Think it wasn't?
Necessarily that I think for,

688
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,520
for me, my, my definition of
popular is, you know, I guess

689
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,640
like the standard social
definition of, oh, you know, the

690
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,000
head cheerleader, the football
person, the homecoming queen,

691
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,360
like the people who are like
status wise.

692
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,720
You know what I'm saying?
I think that's what I look at

693
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,400
when I think popular.
And then that's why I was like,

694
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,600
I'm like, no, I wasn't popular
like that.

695
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,520
I wasn't one.
Of the people.

696
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,640
But if you ask rich kids, If you
ask one of the rich kids, do you

697
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,880
know Hanukkah?
Yeah, I do.

698
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:46,040
If you ask another person who
was top of their food chain,

699
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:49,240
they'll know who you are.
So not that you you weren't the

700
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:52,280
leader of those groups.
You got popular in the school

701
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,200
that everyone knew who you were.
And see, that's how I was.

702
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,480
Like people just knew who I was.
So you weren't, you weren't

703
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,960
Patty, but you were one of
Patty's friends.

704
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,280
No, I wouldn't even say that,
no.

705
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:03,960
No, no.
I.

706
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,640
Was making a joke.
No, no, not.

707
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,760
At.
All because the Patty.

708
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,120
The Patty cakes are interesting.
Let me say, OK, so, yeah, so

709
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,200
getting getting back to the
show, but these these friends

710
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,720
and these friend groups, because
it's like, and I guess that's

711
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:24,760
the one thing that I didn't see
a lot of in high school because

712
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,880
like you have you have Marge,
right?

713
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,640
And she's friends with Lily, who
apparently has gone through some

714
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,080
trauma.
This is a girl whose father I, I

715
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,160
don't even like.
Even when they explained what

716
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,320
happened, I was like, but how?
So apparently her father worked

717
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,720
at the at the pickling plant.
She went to visit him at work

718
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:49,040
One day.
She left behind something, a

719
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,080
mood ring or something that she
had gotten.

720
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,840
She wanted it.
So Dad went back to go get it

721
00:41:53,840 --> 00:42:00,280
for her and somehow found
himself getting caught up in the

722
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,800
machinery.
He was helping so another,

723
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,160
another person's machinery was
getting messed up.

724
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,800
He thought he turned the power
off before he went in to unclog

725
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,240
it or whatever.
And he didn't turn off the power

726
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:17,200
or it or somebody might have
been somehow and it started

727
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,320
running while he was inside the
machinery and then they he got,

728
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,360
you know.
He got he he basically got

729
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,640
dismembered and his body parts
ended up in pickle jars.

730
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,240
And let me just tell you as a
pickle girl.

731
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:34,800
Well, they they said that was
they said that was a rumor that

732
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,560
his parts was in pickle jars all
over the place.

733
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:39,680
But I think it was just in the
plant.

734
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,400
Yeah, I, well, I think they
probably ended up in the jars

735
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,160
because if the machine was on
and that's what the machine

736
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,840
does, that's probably what
happened.

737
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,360
I don't think the jars actually
made it out.

738
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,440
No, that that's what they're
saying.

739
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,560
It was a rumor that people were
finding parts of him in other

740
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,320
places.
Yeah, I, I don't, I would hope

741
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,560
that the quality control in that
place would be a little bit

742
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,680
better to.
They would have to clean that

743
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,400
whole I mean, you know, back in
the day, way back in the day

744
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,240
before clean that up they.
Get 1000.

745
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,800
Pieces of him and they pick.
Could be a finger, you know,

746
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,120
months later you'd be like, oh,
I thought we got that.

747
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,240
Box of jars.
My bad.

748
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,240
Yeah, yeah.
But apparently her trauma was so

749
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:26,960
great with this that they stuck
her in an insane asylum for

750
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,720
treatment because she felt it
was her guilt.

751
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,360
She felt guilty.
Yeah.

752
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:37,600
But so anyway, normal.
I don't even want to say normal.

753
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,080
Regular idiotic kids.
They, they use this as a means

754
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,680
to bully her because she comes
to school and opens up her

755
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,320
locker and there's a, a, a jar
of Pickles that's stuffed in her

756
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,640
locker and it falls down.
Of course, she splashed with

757
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,720
little juice and everything.
So you got Marge, her friend,

758
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:57,960
coming over and being like
really nice and being

759
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,880
encouraging, but at the same
time see her trying to appeal to

760
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,880
this group of popular kids.
And I was just like, this is not

761
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,320
going.
This is not going to end up the

762
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,120
way it's supposed to end up.
Like this is not going to work

763
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,680
the way you want it to work.
You're trying to be friends with

764
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:17,560
the literal social outcast of
the school, but you also want to

765
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,640
be in with the popular girls.
One of those one of those

766
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,280
friendships is going to suffer.
And I don't think it's going to

767
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,240
be the popular girls.
So I just already don't really

768
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:32,320
care about this March girl.
And then Phil, like you said,

769
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,960
basically Phil is like, look,
we, we we got paid to go to this

770
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,120
dude's birthday party, but we're
not his friend.

771
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,960
Yeah, he disappeared.
Oh, it's sad, but life goes on.

772
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,960
Let's talk about these
conspiracy theories.

773
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,480
Just just like his conspiracy.
Theories have me crying.

774
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,720
Listen, and, and, and the crazy
thing is when everything starts

775
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:02,040
coming together, when Lily seeks
out those guys because of

776
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,960
course, at in her mind, she
thinks that they're his friends

777
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,760
because this is again, like you
said, this is what he has LED

778
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,240
her to believe that these are
his friends.

779
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,880
So when she goes to them after
the stuff happens to her, she

780
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,800
she starts hearing the voices in
the pipes and then she sees a

781
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,200
bloody finger come out of the
bathtub, you know, the hole in

782
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,760
the bathtub.
And she goes to his friends to

783
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,320
say, Hey, we need to figure out
what happened to him.

784
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:33,120
I'm hearing his voice this than
other the one person who was

785
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,800
like, oh, you're crazy.
No, this can't happen.

786
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,040
Dude.
You are literally Mr. Conspiracy

787
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,520
Theorist.
You were talking about all this

788
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,880
stuff and that's what Teddy
says.

789
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,800
Then he was like, dude, you have
told me what 50 million ways

790
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,920
that aliens have infiltrated the
the earth and of a voice coming

791
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,480
out of the pipes is impossible
to you?

792
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,880
Like what?
That's what I said.

793
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,120
That's why I did too.
I was like, come on.

794
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,440
Right, you know, aliens,
everything aliens on the on the

795
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,040
base, right, right, but you know
it's.

796
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:07,080
No different from what real
people do.

797
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,040
Yeah.
They do that in in real life,

798
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,520
they can talk about all this
stuff and then you get this one

799
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,280
little thing that's actually got
a possibility or there's some

800
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,840
kind of grain of truth or you
got some shred of evidence.

801
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,120
They're like, no, that can't
exist.

802
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,320
What?
Well that's what always bother

803
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,000
me about shows like like True
Blood.

804
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,200
Y'all got vampires, They can't
be fairy where will oh this

805
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,120
can't be that can't be you're
living.

806
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,240
With vampires, yeah, but you
know what, it sneaks up on you

807
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,040
because I thought the same way
when we were do with Outlander

808
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,400
and we doing time travel and
then Jamie, you know, I'm sorry,

809
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,720
spoiler alert.
He start having, you know, I

810
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,600
don't know, visions.
And I was she knows.

811
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,000
And I was like, how we having
visions?

812
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,560
Where'd that come from?
And I'm like, Michelle, we

813
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,800
watching time travel.
Why can't we have visions too,

814
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,840
right.
And then I was like, oh, OK.

815
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,040
Something.
I was like, oh, OK, but at first

816
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,600
I did the same thing, like that
can't be real.

817
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:14,320
She.
Really did I was like in time

818
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,560
traveling 200.
Right.

819
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,560
So I was like, OK, I'm sorry,
we're in time travel, no

820
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,240
problem.
So he should be like thinking

821
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:24,720
it's part of the aliens.
He could have chucked that up to

822
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,600
say it was aliens instead of
saying oh it's nothing.

823
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,880
Right.
And if if I remember correctly

824
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,880
it is aliens, right?
Or was the.

825
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,960
No.
The original In the original

826
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,680
story, wasn't it like something
having to do with the alien or

827
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,800
or?
It is, yeah.

828
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,960
He is an alien, Yeah, no matter
what, he's an alien.

829
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:53,440
But so see feel right.
You had your chance and you

830
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,080
threw it away, right?
Right.

831
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,640
But it's just when all of this
stuff starts happening.

832
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,280
So Lily hears the voice in the,
you know, in the tub and she

833
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,800
goes to them and, you know, the
the show kind of shows a little

834
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,480
bit of the the background with
her and Maddie again, Maddie

835
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,080
invites her to the tower.
Just kind of like trying to get

836
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,440
close to her and being a friend
to her because of what happened,

837
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,440
you know, I guess.
And one thing about him, he

838
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,040
knows what it's like to be an
outcast.

839
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,800
He knows what it's like to be
kind of alone.

840
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,640
And he was reaching out to her
as a friend, which I thought was

841
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,920
really sweet.
But then of course, he tries to

842
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,480
take it to another level and
tries to kiss her and she's

843
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,200
like, we're friends.
I don't.

844
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,560
I don't.
Want this.

845
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:44,280
He got friend zone real quick.
Real quick.

846
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,360
I've never seen a friend zone
that fast in my life.

847
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,680
Oh yeah, I have, yeah.
But I mean but.

848
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,080
It it was one of those things
where it's like, I don't, I

849
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,960
don't think she did it to be
mean and I don't think that she.

850
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,200
No, no.
Oh no.

851
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,760
Even been opposed to that idea
if she had had more time to

852
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,680
think about it, but it was like
literally it was so sudden.

853
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,800
And this especially if you are a
person who is used to being by

854
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,080
herself, who is not used to
being friends with anybody or

855
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,360
having friends, especially male
friends, for someone to just all

856
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,800
of a sudden come at you like
that.

857
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,560
She was probably like, yeah, no,
I don't, I don't know what to do

858
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,040
with this.
Let's, as Anthony says, let's

859
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:30,320
put a bookmark right here.
And yeah, maybe we might try to

860
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,280
do, we might look at that later.
But of course, they really

861
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,600
didn't have a chance to explore
that because I think within like

862
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,760
a couple of days this, you know,
is when he actually disappeared.

863
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:48,560
But you know, she takes her her
experience and what happens to

864
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:54,240
her in the tub to to Teddy and
to Phil and then.

865
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,280
They start to do research.
They're like, OK, well, let's go

866
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,680
check this out.
They go to the library and

867
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,280
they're looking at microfilm.
I was like, oh, wait, wait,

868
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,400
wait, hold on, let's go back,
'cause when she when she first

869
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,440
tells them, wait a second, OK,
I'm out of order.

870
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,200
Nevermind, keep going.
No.

871
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,080
What were you?
Oh, what?

872
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,200
Were you going to say no?
I didn't realize no, because I

873
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,320
was thinking, did they go?
Did they go to, did he go to his

874
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,920
parents first?
Did he go to the library?

875
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,120
I want to say something about
the parents.

876
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,360
I think they went.
I have it on right now, but I

877
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,440
just don't remember what came
next.

878
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,320
Oh yeah, I don't.
Oh, you know what?

879
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,600
Like my brain, I really don't
know what came next and I just

880
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,080
had.
It on and I don't remember.

881
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,600
I got to, I got to remember
because she OK, so she had that

882
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,560
experience and then Teddy has an
experience of his.

883
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,880
Oh wait, Oh yeah, 'cause she has
experience.

884
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,600
That's when she pulls them and
tells them feel is like this is

885
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,560
unbelievable.
And that's when Teddy 'cause we

886
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,560
talked about it.
Teddy asked his family and and

887
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,320
now I wanted to get to that.
Cause the thing about it, I

888
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,400
guess, is Dad has talked about
their past.

889
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,360
And when he brought it up about
under the sewer, I think he

890
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,880
snapped because it was almost
like, have you not been

891
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,200
listening to the stories we've
been telling you?

892
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,360
Yeah.
And and that could happen

893
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,080
because this has been the worst
things that has happened to us.

894
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,920
Have you ticked like, come on.
Yeah, Benny, have you been

895
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,520
paying?
Attention asked him about that.

896
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,560
And when dad starts telling him
about what happened to, you

897
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:40,040
know, their Jewish ancestors,
you know, our ancestors were put

898
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,680
in concentration camps.
You know, their skins were made,

899
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,680
used to make lamp shades.
He was like horrors.

900
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,880
Like he was.
Like, yeah, we, we, we've dealt

901
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,880
with horrors like this before.
It was recent, more recent than

902
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,120
ancestors because I think the
dad was like, we escaped from

903
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,680
like I think it was recent.
Oh.

904
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,000
Yeah, 19, Yeah.
Yeah, it was.

905
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,040
Recent memory for him, Yeah.
And side note, Michelle was

906
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:15,120
watching Monster about Ed Gein
and and the the woman who was

907
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,760
making the lampshades out of
their skin is what inspired him

908
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,920
to do the same thing.
And so when I saw the lampshade

909
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,400
rolling around, it made me think
of Ed Gein again.

910
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,200
But, but yeah, but, but I can
understand.

911
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,360
I know they're being influenced
a little bit by it, but I can

912
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,840
see how that was just like.
That would be that would be

913
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,800
because we have told, right?
We have told our kids what we

914
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,760
came from.
And then you asked me a

915
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,240
ridiculous question.
Can someone be in the store?

916
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,840
Yeah, yeah.
I think the thing with that is

917
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,480
they have to realize like when
when kids hear about horrible

918
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,760
things, it's just the story to
them.

919
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,520
It doesn't have any tangibility
for them.

920
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:05,480
Just like nowadays when kids
hear about 911 and, and the

921
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,080
things that we witnessed that
day, the things we saw on TV,

922
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,160
seeing the buildings come down,
seeing people jumping from the

923
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:17,560
top of a skyscraper, that's just
a story to them.

924
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,640
It's kind of like, OK, I know it
happened, but to them it's like

925
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,680
it's, I guess it's kind of like
it's not a reality to them yet

926
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,080
once they see it, like once they
watch the archival footage or

927
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,000
something like that.
Like even my daughters, my

928
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,880
daughters were very young when
911 happened and they remember

929
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,960
kind of bits and pieces of it,
but they never really watched

930
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,200
any of the footage online
because they were still like

931
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,920
really, really young.
And recently my oldest daughter

932
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,040
saw, I think it was some kind of
documentary or something, and

933
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,040
she was like, I forgot how bad
it was.

934
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,800
You know, it's like, you hear
about those things, but then

935
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,720
when you actually see those
things, it's something

936
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:06,640
different.
So it's like, I understand why

937
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,080
his dad went off on him because
he was like, yeah, we know about

938
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,960
these kinds of horrors.
We know about people being

939
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,320
stolen and not making it out and
this, that and other.

940
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,720
So I can understand why he was
upset with Teddy.

941
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,520
But Teddy, again, at his age, he
just doesn't get it.

942
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:29,520
Until it's something personal
like a semi friend acquaintance

943
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,240
being in the sewer.
I mean honestly, that's it.

944
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:37,880
And then, but then you put it in
his head and then then we have

945
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,880
because that was, that would be
horrifying to have that layup

946
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,160
next.
To you, I was horrified.

947
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,760
That wasn't even.
There, right?

948
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,400
And then it's rolling towards
you.

949
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,720
Listen.
And like, I'm like, I'm done.

950
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:55,280
And the the mouth is moving like
I was like, I don't know who

951
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,600
dreams up this stuff.
Y'all need to go to therapy.

952
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:03,720
They need to go to therapy
because that and, and the way

953
00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:06,600
that the the dad was kind of
going off about it, he was like,

954
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,520
yeah, you need to get your head
out of comic books.

955
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,160
I was like, I've read comic
books before.

956
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,440
I had never had that shit happen
in my life.

957
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,240
So.
And, and that's the thing.

958
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:18,080
Teddy is sitting there, he's
reading his comic books and the

959
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,800
light keeps flickering out.
So he keeps reaching over.

960
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,640
And when I saw the lamp, I said,
oh, this is not going to be

961
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,000
good.
Like, I didn't think it was

962
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,360
going to do what it did.
I just thought maybe there was

963
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,400
going to be a jump scare or
something like that.

964
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:38,840
When he turned around and saw
the faces in the lamp shade and

965
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,960
he literally, he jumps off the
bed and he he runs and highs up

966
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,720
under his desk and then the lamp
shade starts rolling towards

967
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:50,600
him.
I was like, you know what?

968
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,160
I don't know if I'm gonna make
it through this episode.

969
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:56,920
Like y'all already show me a
demon baby.

970
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,560
Y'all have show me a a finger.
A finger coming out of the

971
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,120
bathtub drain.
Which that shouldn't have been

972
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:08,200
surprising to me, because it's
the same thing Beverly had to

973
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,440
deal with.
So like that, yeah.

974
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,560
Yeah.
So that wasn't bad.

975
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:17,160
I'm sorry that was bad, but the.
Finger coming out and just kind

976
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,320
of like searching around like
hey.

977
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,840
It was more the.
He won't let me that freak me

978
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,000
out.
I was like, Oh no, Oh no, we, we

979
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:27,560
will not.
And.

980
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,920
I'm more terrified of the lamp.
I was like Oh my God, and and

981
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:38,160
and and it got him so bad that
when you telling your friends,

982
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,920
you throwing up, right?
Right, but but this is the thing

983
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,840
that makes them go back to Lily,
because when Lily came to them

984
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,720
and said, Hey, I heard voices
coming out of my bathtub.

985
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:51,000
There was like, no, I don't
think that's right.

986
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,160
You're you're a little crazy
anyway, So you know, she leaves.

987
00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:00,080
But then now, of course, now
you, you've seen, you know,

988
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,920
faces in your lamp say, oh, you
know what?

989
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,760
I'm ready to believe.
I was like, you know what?

990
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:08,440
No, but but what I love about
Phil and Teddy is that's why

991
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:13,960
they ride or die because Teddy,
the way Teddy is, Phil was like,

992
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,080
he ain't making this shit up.
He ain't making it up.

993
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,400
So if he.
Says that this happened to him.

994
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,040
I believe it.
We should be scared.

995
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,920
Yeah.
Yeah.

996
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,440
And I love that he didn't say
I'm still.

997
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,560
I still don't know.
These are alias no?

998
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,280
He was like if my friend said
it.

999
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,400
Literally sitting here throwing
up his guts.

1000
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,600
Like my friend said, he's all
this.

1001
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,760
Waterfalling.
I was like, Oh my.

1002
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,560
God like, Oh yeah, but you know
what, I would be too.

1003
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,000
And I would not behind that.
I would.

1004
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,800
I would be right there throwing
up my guts and and it'll be OK.

1005
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,240
Y'all can believe, y'all can
think what you want, but this is

1006
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,720
what I saw at this point.
That's when they decide, OK, we

1007
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,400
got to research this.
We got to see if this has

1008
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,200
happened again.
They go to the library and they

1009
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:06,840
start looking it up and, you
know, they, they decide to go to

1010
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,320
the House of the girl who worked
in the movie theater because the

1011
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,720
the newspaper article says that
this is the last place that he

1012
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,080
was, That was the last place he
was seen before he disappeared.

1013
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,520
Because again, at this point,
they don't have a body.

1014
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,160
They're just presuming that he's
dead because it's been four

1015
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,480
months.
No one is saying hide, hide nor

1016
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,640
hair.
This kid.

1017
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,320
I mean, I think it's kind of
premature to assume death,

1018
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,840
especially you don't have any
blood.

1019
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,600
You don't have anybody.
This kid was obviously

1020
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,640
hitchhiking.
I'm sure the first person who

1021
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,080
drove past him probably told the
police, yeah, this kid was

1022
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,080
hitchhiking.
You know, he could have been a

1023
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,040
runaway.
He could have been whatever, but

1024
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,960
this is dairy.
I guess they they.

1025
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,040
Well, that's the other thing
that made me mad is because the

1026
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,000
man who was chasing this kid all
over the theater and nobody

1027
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,480
noticed that he was chasing this
poor kid, how he chased them out

1028
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,720
onto the street, but all of a
sudden it's like.

1029
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,640
It's the black dude.
Why wasn't he the one that they

1030
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,480
looked at and said, well, you
were chasing him?

1031
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,760
Yeah.
Do you really have to?

1032
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:15,360
I know, I'm just saying it, OK?
So at first, yeah, but I will

1033
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,480
say this to the I mean, the
whole fact that they went to

1034
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,280
Ronnie's house and she was the
one who let them in the theater

1035
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,600
when all of the shit like really
broke loose.

1036
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,160
How was no how was nowhere near
there.

1037
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,480
So it's kind of like, OK, you
you went to the black kids

1038
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,160
house.
She was the one who let y'all in

1039
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,040
and then all this stuff
happened.

1040
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,600
But.
But the first kid, but Maddie

1041
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,040
though, he they really should
have asked the boy who was

1042
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,160
chasing him, because you, you
continue to chase him.

1043
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,320
Yeah, when we said leave the
kid.

1044
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,880
Alone.
So yeah, but I guess they wanted

1045
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,120
to go ask the person who was
closer to their age because

1046
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,040
again, you are you are children
and you're talking about things

1047
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,760
that most adults are not going
to believe you.

1048
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,160
So you don't want to go to
somebody who's even a semi

1049
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,600
adult?
Oh, no, I think she, I think she

1050
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,920
means the police, like when they
were investigating, they should

1051
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,520
have gone to that guy because he
had the biggest problem with the

1052
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,320
kid.
Yeah, and when he was missing on

1053
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,200
he went missing.
That was July 4th, I mean, not

1054
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,320
July 4th, January. 4th OK Was
that the date on the newspaper

1055
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,120
article?
OK OK.

1056
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,120
But yeah.
So when they go to Ronnie and

1057
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,080
they asked her about it and she
was like why y'all coming to me?

1058
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,480
She was like, I already told the
police.

1059
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,520
She was like, yeah, y'all
already know.

1060
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,880
They they've been asking my dad
questions.

1061
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,760
There's suspicion.
She was like get away from my

1062
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,080
house.
So as they're leaving, they're

1063
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,800
talking amongst each other.
And they said, see, we told you

1064
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,200
was stupid.
Nobody's going to believe the

1065
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,960
story about hearing you hear and
singing through the pipes.

1066
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,320
And Ronnie hears this and she
was like, hold.

1067
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,680
Up.
Hold up.

1068
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,240
And they were like, what, did
you hear this too?

1069
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,880
She was like, yeah.
So then they start talking.

1070
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,760
They realize the song is from
Music Man, which is what Maddie

1071
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,000
was watching in the movie
theater the night he

1072
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,640
disappeared.
So they decide they're going to

1073
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,520
go to the movie theater and
they're going to watch the the

1074
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,080
movie.
And they're like, OK, maybe

1075
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,160
something in the song is going
to give us a clue.

1076
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:23,400
Something.
In the song.

1077
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:29,600
So I was reading an article
today was talking about how this

1078
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,800
particular episode seem like it
borrowed a lot from Stranger

1079
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,440
Things and then it went
completely the opposite

1080
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,960
direction of Stranger Things
because, you know, Stranger

1081
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:44,280
Things was also the same.
You have a a boy who went

1082
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,320
missing, you have his group of
friends who are trying to find

1083
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:48,800
him and blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.

1084
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:55,120
So they go to the movie theater.
She starts playing the movie.

1085
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,840
Now she's up in the projector
booth.

1086
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,840
The other kids are down here and
it's it's Teddy.

1087
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,040
It's Phil, Phil's little sister
Susie, because he stuck

1088
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,040
babysitting.
And then Lily.

1089
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:07,840
So they're all sitting there in
a row.

1090
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,200
They're watching the movie.
And it comes to the scene where

1091
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,960
there's like this, there's this
speech being made.

1092
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,360
And at first, when I heard the
speech, I was like, oh, this

1093
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,600
kind of sounds like grown-ups
talking about children because

1094
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,080
it's like, yeah, you need to
keep an eye on your children.

1095
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,120
Is your child doing this?
When when they leave your house,

1096
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,320
are they doing this?
And he was saying a whole bunch

1097
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,520
of stuff that's outdated.
So I'm not even going to try to

1098
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,320
repeat what he said.
But, you know, it was one of

1099
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,360
those things where it's like
parents talking to their

1100
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:37,840
children.
Yeah, your children are doing

1101
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,480
things that that you don't know
about when they're not around

1102
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:46,240
you.
And I was like, OK, so in the

1103
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:50,960
midst of this scene, all of a
sudden you see Maddie in the

1104
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,720
middle holding a bundle that
looks like a baby.

1105
01:02:54,720 --> 01:03:00,560
And am I am I misremembering
this that the bundle was yellow?

1106
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,000
Yes, OK, it was yellow.
Yellow.

1107
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,240
Kind of like Georgie's raincoat.
Right.

1108
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,120
Yeah, he's yellow, and the
family that was in the car is

1109
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,000
behind him.
Oh, that I didn't notice.

1110
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,480
Yeah, they're they're in the
crowd.

1111
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:19,160
Yeah, right behind him.
So of course, the kids are all

1112
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,920
sitting here looking, and
they're like, oh, my God, that's

1113
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,440
Maddie.
How is he on the screen?

1114
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,400
And Maddie appears to hear him
hear them.

1115
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,800
So they start calling out to
him.

1116
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,600
Maddie, hey, we're, we're trying
to help you.

1117
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,360
We're gonna help you.
Come on, come on, come on.

1118
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:40,240
Let me tell you, he starts.
He starts telling them, yeah,

1119
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,080
you know, I'm missing.
I'm here and it's all your

1120
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,240
fault.
And he starts going off on them

1121
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,840
basically like, Oh yeah, you
guys were shitty friends, that

1122
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,640
sort of thing.
I'm, that's the reason why I'm

1123
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,400
here, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.

1124
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:57,360
He looks down and he looks up
and he has the Pennywise grin on

1125
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:03,200
his face.
And I was just like, OK, so this

1126
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,360
is definitely a Pennywise origin
story.

1127
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:15,280
OK.
Then the shit starts because the

1128
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:20,600
little bundle that Maddie is
holding opens up and it's the

1129
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:28,160
demon baby, and the demon baby
comes through the screen into

1130
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:34,480
the movie theater.
Now, if you ask me, they didn't

1131
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,600
get up fast enough.
No, that's why I would have left

1132
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,560
when I seen Maddie in.
The screen why?

1133
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,720
Why are?
We still sitting here.

1134
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,520
It's fine.
We can't save them by sin,

1135
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,040
sorry.
The moment he showed up on the

1136
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:57,280
screen and he was holding
something, I would have just

1137
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,760
been like easing myself
backwards.

1138
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,640
And then you think Ronnie is
safe because Ronnie is up in the

1139
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:10,680
projector screen.
Hey, Ronnie, you can turn it off

1140
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,000
now.
We know.

1141
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:20,240
We know where Mattie is.
Listen, but the fact that this

1142
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,000
demon baby comes out of the
screen, literally starts

1143
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,400
attacking them.
They're running.

1144
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,520
They're going this direction.
That direction, I think was it

1145
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,080
Lily?
Lily kind of freezes in place.

1146
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,040
She's still sitting in the
chair.

1147
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,080
No Hanukkah.
Hanukkah.

1148
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:41,760
It's screen sized.
It's it's the size it was on the

1149
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,440
screen is huge.
It's like 6 feet tall.

1150
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,640
It is dynamous, yeah, horrible,
but like.

1151
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:52,800
Lily.
Yeah, Lily.

1152
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,600
Lily.
Lily is stuck.

1153
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,040
She is, she is scared.
She is stuck in her seat.

1154
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,640
And I'm going to be honest, that
is probably, I'm going to say

1155
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:06,400
that's one of two things that
probably saved her because she

1156
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,320
wasn't running.
So the the the demon baby was

1157
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,920
literally chasing everybody else
who was running.

1158
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:18,880
OK, it got Teddy, it got feel it
it it tore one of them like.

1159
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:23,160
Let's start in half as we
watching this and I said, oh

1160
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:28,600
this is this is you know creepy.
They bout to get up and run out

1161
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:35,600
and have to figure out like what
is happening until rest in

1162
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,840
peace.
Teddy is the first OK?

1163
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:42,400
Oh my God.
Teddy is tossed in the air and

1164
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:47,120
then ripped apart.
At that moment in time I knew

1165
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:53,920
that they all had been effed up
and this is not the losers club

1166
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:59,000
for this season.
And I really like Teddy.

1167
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:01,760
He's actually my favorite.
I like.

1168
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,800
Seal.
Teddy was mine.

1169
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,000
Phil was an asshole, but he
didn't deserve to go out the way

1170
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,160
he did.
Because not his sister too.

1171
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:15,240
Teddy gets ripped apart, Phil
gets his face smushed into the

1172
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,880
projector room window and then
just drops.

1173
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,320
Lily finally gets out of her
seat and she hides on the ground

1174
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,040
and she sees Susie and she tells
Susie.

1175
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,680
Now this is the thing that got
me.

1176
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:30,600
You're literally screaming,
Susie.

1177
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,680
Yeah.
Bitch, you can't whisper.

1178
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,920
Why are you telling her to come
under the seats to you?

1179
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,920
Why don't you go to her?
She's a child, she's a baby.

1180
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,440
You go save her.
You look, you know what, in this

1181
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:54,240
scenario, I I can't say that I'm
going to be the one that's going

1182
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,520
to be the hero.
You have to come to me.

1183
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,960
And I'm I'm saying that thing
has not paid me no attention

1184
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:01,640
right now.
You need to come to me.

1185
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,400
But Lily tries to get to her.
She has her arm extended and

1186
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,240
then all of a sudden here goes
the demon baby and he's looking

1187
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,600
at Lily.
So I'm thinking Lily is about to

1188
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,240
die.
Ronnie finds a way to get out of

1189
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,560
the projector room.
She finds a little, I think it's

1190
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,640
like she gets the little hatchet
out of the emergency, the

1191
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,120
emergency break glass in case of
emergency thing or something.

1192
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,120
And she you know, she gets she
she knocks out the window, she

1193
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,399
gets out, she comes downstairs,
she gets Lily.

1194
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,080
They run out, they close the
doors and they kind of lock the

1195
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,200
door and they're sitting there
looking at each other trying to

1196
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:44,000
figure out what's going on.
Because Ronnie, I think she saw

1197
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,560
what was going on, but I don't
think her mind processed what

1198
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,160
was going on.
Because when Lily tells her

1199
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,920
they're all dead, Ronnie's like,
what the fuck are you talking

1200
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,720
about?
They're all dead.

1201
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,520
They're all dead.
And then Lily happens to realize

1202
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,279
she has something in her hand.
She looks down and brings her

1203
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:08,640
arm up and she's got the front
part of Susie's hand and that's

1204
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,880
all she has.
So of course she let us scream.

1205
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:16,880
And I was just like, wow, y'all
just killed two of the main

1206
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:22,040
characters, or technically three
if you count Maddie, because I'm

1207
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,319
sure Maddie is going to be a
main character throughout the

1208
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:25,760
season.
I'm sure we're probably going to

1209
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,520
get some flashbacks, whatever.
But it was just like, what?

1210
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,120
What?
What scene are y'all looking at

1211
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,200
in the background?
Because Michelle's face is like

1212
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:35,840
intense right now.
This.

1213
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,399
Is Ronnie coming in with the
hammer and she's getting Lily

1214
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,920
and the demon baby is getting up
and they take off running?

1215
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,439
Let me tell you.
Yeah, well.

1216
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,040
She did that lift up and she was
holding that child's hand.

1217
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,160
I said that baby that was 46 or
seven years old.

1218
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,760
Right, right.
That's what she buy the lift up

1219
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,440
now.
Yeah, I'm on the I'm on.

1220
01:09:57,480 --> 01:10:01,320
The and blood everywhere I.
Know we don't live with the

1221
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:06,320
children, you know, even though
we know that's it's like MO go

1222
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,560
through the children.
Yeah.

1223
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:15,400
It was crazy because it's like
you're expecting some violence

1224
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,840
from this story.
You're expecting it's Pennywise.

1225
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,800
It's it.
We we're familiar with it.

1226
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,640
We know what happens.
Yeah.

1227
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,800
But the way that it started and
then the way that it end, like

1228
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:35,000
the the amount of violence, like
even in the original miniseries,

1229
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:40,840
when Georgia gets his arm pulled
off, we don't really actually

1230
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,720
see the arm come off.
You just kind of you see his arm

1231
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,240
go down into the sewer.
You see him pull his his arm out

1232
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,680
and and the arm is gone and then
he disappears.

1233
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,960
Whatever.
This was so visual.

1234
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:04,600
This, this, this and this.
Yeah, this.

1235
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:11,160
It is on some different shit.
So whatever he was in the IT, he

1236
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,000
like got older, he towards
retirement.

1237
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:18,280
Right.
This is when he is fresh new

1238
01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:19,960
look.
And he's like.

1239
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,280
Excited though, he's like
thousands of years old, like

1240
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,200
millions of years old.
Like I don't know if this,

1241
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,720
because it's the beginning, it's
the beginning of this.

1242
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:35,160
It's awakening and and we've
seen him in the other at the end

1243
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,920
when he's about to go to sleep.
So he's kind of full.

1244
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:46,480
But this right here is so some
some he he different and I felt

1245
01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:50,200
some type of way at the end of
this episode because you got me

1246
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:55,200
liking these kids and I wasn't.
I thought I didn't pay attention

1247
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,040
to the trainer clearly because I
assumed that they were part of

1248
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,240
the losers club.
We we thought, we thought and,

1249
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,120
and I think they did that on.
Purpose.

1250
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,560
I really thought they were.
Yeah.

1251
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,560
But when they ripped that boy in
half, I said I'm done.

1252
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,520
Oh man.
And then slammed him up against

1253
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:16,240
the glass.
I.

1254
01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:19,840
Was like and and then and then
you, then you left.

1255
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,880
Only thing you left was a little
girl's hand.

1256
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:23,840
She didn't.
She just wanted to go get a

1257
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,640
milkshake, right?
She was just a baby.

1258
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,440
Right, right.
So.

1259
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,440
And the fact that they didn't
actually show Maddie die.

1260
01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:37,480
I I was like, OK, well, we know
what happened to Maddie.

1261
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,840
These little pacifier flew, you
know?

1262
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:45,840
Yeah, but baby, when I seen that
hand, I said, oh, we in for it,

1263
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,640
right?
Yeah, I think you know Susie,

1264
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,280
she just happened to be a
casualty because she was there

1265
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,080
with them.
But I, I'm going to be honest,

1266
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,680
even though that's Maddie on the
screen and we know that he is, I

1267
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,240
don't know if he's being taken
over by this entity, if he is

1268
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,040
this entity or whatever.
I think there's still a part of

1269
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,800
my actual Maddie there.
I think that's the reason why

1270
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:14,200
Lily and Ronnie, for now, are
still alive, because those were

1271
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,800
the two people who were friendly
to him.

1272
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,200
Those were the people that he
would have considered friends

1273
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:24,080
because even though Lily
rebuffed his advance as a kiss,

1274
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,360
she said we're friends.
Like she literally told him, I'm

1275
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,640
your friend, You're my friend.
Ronnie helped him out.

1276
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,800
You know, when when Hal was
chasing him out the movie

1277
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,080
theater or looking for him, she
lied to protect him.

1278
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,560
She was like, oh, yeah, I saw
him.

1279
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,840
He went that way.
So I think that's the only

1280
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,520
reason why those two girls are
still alive, because there is

1281
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:51,320
probably still a part of Maddie
that is aware and he was like,

1282
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:56,720
no, I'm not going to do this to
them because they actually cared

1283
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,320
about me in some, you know,
shape, form or fashion.

1284
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,080
Again, like we said.
No, they got nothing to do with

1285
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,360
Maddie.
They use Maddie.

1286
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:09,240
The thing about it is those boys
felt more guilt, probably than

1287
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:10,480
she did.
Yeah.

1288
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,160
He was getting.
He was getting.

1289
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,840
More he was getting.
More emotion from the two of

1290
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,080
them.
Yeah, and then we feel.

1291
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:18,840
Guilt because of the fact that
he.

1292
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,760
Disappeared if he right but that
is not Maddie period.

1293
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,200
That's it.
But he's feeding off of it and

1294
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,480
they have more guilt and they
had more fear at the time.

1295
01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:32,920
Lily been through some stuff so
her fear factor is what gives

1296
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,520
her is something totally
different.

1297
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,040
I don't know.
There's something about

1298
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,040
watching, watching these people
get ripped, ripped apart in

1299
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,680
front of you.
I think that that.

1300
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,640
Well, she's been through that
though before, so you got to

1301
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,800
imagine she has imagined her
day, but still, I mean,

1302
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,760
witnessing it, right?
But she got saved too at the end

1303
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,000
'cause he was coming for he was
finishing his other meal.

1304
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,920
Ronnie pulled her out of there
and then put the hammer through

1305
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,000
the door.
But ultimately they had the most

1306
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,520
amount of fear when they got
thrown through that screen.

1307
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:08,360
And she did.
And she also had a lucky charm.

1308
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,280
Yeah, Maddie.
Oh, the turtle.

1309
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:12,920
Charm.
She had the turtle.

1310
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:13,840
Charm.
That's right.

1311
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:20,000
I forgot about that.
OK.

1312
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,640
And even though we're not going
to, even though they never

1313
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:29,080
established the turtle in this
universe, the turtle has to be

1314
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,960
something because it was, it's
been in all of the movies and

1315
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,080
the.
Turtle iconography has it was

1316
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,360
even in this show with the the
bombshell, the turtle.

1317
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,280
Yeah, and then she has a little
turtle, but it was in, it was

1318
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,720
also in the movies too.
So that could be, that will be

1319
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,320
her one, her one saving grace.
OK.

1320
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,360
Because they were so scared,
they literally jumped up and

1321
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:55,760
took off running.
Yeah, and she just sat there

1322
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,560
paralyzed.
Like I don't even know where to

1323
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,720
begin.
She probably was like maybe if I

1324
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,240
just sit still it won't notice.
Yeah, she's still processing,

1325
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,840
but they they are, they are
mints.

1326
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:11,280
He's going for that, that fear.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1327
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,440
But and and Teddy was already on
edge from the lamp earlier.

1328
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:20,320
He's still throwing up that day,
remembering what was happening.

1329
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,800
Yeah.
But that poor Susie, I was like,

1330
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,000
she didn't deserve that.
Yeah, but I mean, think about

1331
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,320
it.
Georgie didn't deserve it

1332
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,200
either.
Like you say, Anthony, he just,

1333
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,680
he just wanted somebody to go
sell his boat with him.

1334
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,280
That's all.
He just wants someone to play

1335
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,720
with the boat.
That's it.

1336
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,520
His brother George.
That's all he wanted, right?

1337
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,320
Where George?
But yet when I say that end

1338
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,880
scene fucked me up because I was
like so y'all just killed half

1339
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,200
of the main characters?
Right.

1340
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,240
That's why I was like, so well
then.

1341
01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:54,400
Well, well.
I guess they're not made.

1342
01:16:54,480 --> 01:17:00,440
Characters, but right, they was
it, but they did such a great

1343
01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:06,080
job, even though the the guy who
did it is from the movies it so

1344
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,880
that's why it has the continuity
and the sameness to it.

1345
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:14,080
But they did such a good job,
literally, of us caring about

1346
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:20,120
Phil and Teddy.
I really fit combo.

1347
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,240
They fit in the losers club
like, you know, print of like,

1348
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,640
you know, the templates and all
the little nerdy bull.

1349
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,360
Right little.
Bit you know they.

1350
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,600
Fit going to do the research,
you know, believing in each

1351
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:37,560
other and Yep.
Oh, that's they're gone.

1352
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:44,120
So now we're going to have to,
you know, see how Ronnie and

1353
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,200
Lily deal with this moving
forward.

1354
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:52,320
And not only that, like how how
do you explain that to people?

1355
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:57,440
Like when they come to open up
the theater, when you have to

1356
01:17:57,440 --> 01:18:01,280
call 911 because your friends
just got torn apart?

1357
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:09,480
Like how do you even start that
conversation or at like how?

1358
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:15,240
Yeah, how that, But like, how do
you, how do you sit here and

1359
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:19,400
talk to these kids and then you
still going to be like, well, it

1360
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:24,920
had to be this guy.
So what I'm thinking is no,

1361
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:25,960
Yeah.
Like.

1362
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:27,840
I, I, I don't, I don't even
know.

1363
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:32,320
I don't even I'm surprised Lily
if the next episode she ain't

1364
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,680
back at the.
Yeah, I would be surprised too.

1365
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,280
Yeah, Come on, check me in,
please.

1366
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:41,160
Check me.
In I'll be like this is some.

1367
01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:43,600
This is too much.
This is too much.

1368
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,280
I've seen too much.
Right, right.

1369
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,120
Poor that poor girl.
Oh my God.

1370
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,600
But I mean, just the both of
them are going to have to deal

1371
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:58,880
with this in in very right.
Yeah.

1372
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:05,920
But on the less gruesome side of
things, let's go back to Major

1373
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:14,360
Hamlin because I know that he, I
don't know how big a part he's

1374
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,600
going to play in this series,
but we know that his grandson

1375
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,080
eventually becomes Mike Hamlin
from the Losers Club and IT.

1376
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:25,200
And he is one of the people that
helps defeat Pennywise, you

1377
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:31,040
know, 30 something year or well,
30 something 54 years down the

1378
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,040
line.
But we see, we see Major Hammond

1379
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:38,280
in Chapter 1 because he's with
Mike.

1380
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:40,840
The grandfather.
Yeah.

1381
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,880
He's a farmer.
He was, yeah, he was a farmer.

1382
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,560
He was talking to him about the
farming.

1383
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,160
No, that's his dad.
No.

1384
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,160
That's his dad is dead.
And his parents is dead.

1385
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:59,240
They died in the fire.
That that was in that.

1386
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:00,800
What was the actor Glenn
Thurman?

1387
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,720
I think it was, yeah, it was
Glenn Thurman.

1388
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,640
He.
Was telling him, he was telling

1389
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:10,440
him things that he needed to do,
like pretty much be a pretty

1390
01:20:10,440 --> 01:20:14,320
much be a leader and, and you
got to figure out some stuff.

1391
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,000
So it's probably after he
retires and stuff for, you know,

1392
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,560
from the military, he gets a
farm and they, you know, they do

1393
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,840
cattle 'cause it was owl
farming.

1394
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:30,560
But his part of the story so far
is like, I'm not going to say

1395
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,880
it's boring, but of course it's
less bloody kind of.

1396
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,920
You know, we, we do have the,
the attack, you know, he does

1397
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:42,160
get attacked by some people,
which we don't really know why.

1398
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:47,160
Supposedly he was brought to the
Air Force Base in Derry because

1399
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,240
he is a great pilot and they
want him to fly this

1400
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,360
experimental plane.
And the people who break into

1401
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,400
his barracks, they beat him
because they want the specifics

1402
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,880
on that particular plane.
But I'm.

1403
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,440
Like how?
How do you be Russian spies that

1404
01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:07,640
don't have a Russian accent?
And see, that's why I was, I

1405
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,480
don't think they're Russians.
I I think 1.

1406
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:15,640
I think that little asshole
racist military guy that's

1407
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,520
there, I can't remember what.
He was.

1408
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,480
Masters of all names.
Right, right, Masters.

1409
01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:25,360
I think he was probably one of
them and then it might have been

1410
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,400
some other ones who don't like
the fact that there is a black

1411
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,200
major that's outranking them and
calling the shots.

1412
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,200
But I was like, don't none of
y'all have an accent?

1413
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,080
All I know is if they hadn't hit
him with that that metal pipe,

1414
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:42,440
he was going to whip some ass
he.

1415
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,760
Was going.
To take him down he was getting.

1416
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,440
Ready to RIP?
It out.

1417
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:49,040
Thank you.
And I like Russo.

1418
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,840
I like Russo.
Russo came in out of nowhere.

1419
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,240
He came in spider monkey on
right EDI love it.

1420
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,120
Right.
But I'm kind of curious as to

1421
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,360
like what his part of the story
in all of this is going to be,

1422
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,400
aside from, you know, being the
way that Mike eventually ends up

1423
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,880
in dairy.
But it's kind of like, OK, so

1424
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,080
you have this this major that's
on a military base.

1425
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,800
And of course, they've already
shown us that there's, you know,

1426
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,800
a section of the military base
that's doing some classified

1427
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,120
experiments.
So I don't know if that's going

1428
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:27,720
to have anything to do with the
Pennywise stuff or if it's going

1429
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,920
to have something to do with
something else.

1430
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:36,880
But it's kind of like I'm, I'm
curious, but not overly curious

1431
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,920
about his part of the story.
But again, this is only the

1432
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,920
first episode.
I'm but I'm just kind of like,

1433
01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:49,400
OK, I maybe I don't need to know
this part of the story, but I

1434
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,360
mean, like, like we say, y'all
killed off half the main

1435
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,560
character.
So it's not like we can get more

1436
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,280
of that unless you're going to
give us some, some back story on

1437
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,600
these characters, which at this
point is kind of like, I don't

1438
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:08,640
even know if we need like, I
don't, I don't know, just where

1439
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,080
do you go from here with these,
with these characters?

1440
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,880
Because you got the 2 little
girls who who survived and who

1441
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,480
are going to have to deal with
the aftermath of all of this.

1442
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,080
I don't know.
But I guess in some ways we have

1443
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:30,920
to have little the the the we
have to have him so that we can

1444
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,960
have will so that we can have
Mike.

1445
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,720
And so there has to be something
they're going to have to drum up

1446
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:40,760
something good for him to make
it, you know, because otherwise

1447
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,920
it's all about the kids and the
grown-ups don't really matter.

1448
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:49,400
And and a lot of these cases.
But I wonder if if him being

1449
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,840
part of the story is one of the
reasons why Mike ended up

1450
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,240
staying in Derry.
And, you know, he became like,

1451
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,840
what was he was a library, but
he was also the the historian.

1452
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,360
He was the one that kind of kept
track of all of this stuff and

1453
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,400
kind of tracked Pennywise and
and the disappearances and

1454
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:08,880
stuff.
I wonder if it has something to

1455
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:14,520
do with whatever happens to
Major Hamlin in this time period

1456
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:20,520
in 1962 that kind of causes him
to have that make that decision

1457
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,920
Because I'm sorry, would be
like, you know what?

1458
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,360
We not even from dairy.
I'm leaving.

1459
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,000
Well, how about this?
We know, we know Major Hanlon's

1460
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:33,120
family is coming, so we know
Mike's dad is probably going to

1461
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:39,960
be a kid.
What if he like, joins whatever

1462
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,840
the the new losers club is
because we don't really know

1463
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,120
anything about him other than
the fact that he and his wife

1464
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,840
died in the fire.
What if we learn more about his

1465
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:55,920
part in in the whole thing?
Yeah.

1466
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,440
And maybe there's a reason why
they he died in the fire.

1467
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:06,120
Could be.
Yeah, and, and Major Handling's

1468
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:12,120
story is probably like another
IT story, but a different, a

1469
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,080
different track, like it's
something totally different.

1470
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:20,240
Because it's something secret.
Yeah, on that they.

1471
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,720
They definitely it definitely
effects.

1472
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,440
Adults.
May be different than how it

1473
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:28,160
does the kids, but definitely
makes adults because if I

1474
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:31,320
remember correctly, even though
they really don't talk about it

1475
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,320
as much, but like there's the
the in the beginning of the

1476
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:36,440
book, there's the gay character
that gets killed.

1477
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:39,120
He gets murdered in the
beginning of the book.

1478
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,680
And then I think they kind of
hit on it in the in the new

1479
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,200
movies about.
The second one.

1480
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,080
The second one.
You know so.

1481
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:51,560
Almost like the adults walk
around with like a fog or a haze

1482
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,200
or a cloud.
Yeah, yeah.

1483
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,240
Yeah, but no, yeah, 'cause that
was the first.

1484
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,120
That was a character that dies
in the Part 2.

1485
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,720
OK.
Yeah, I need to go back and

1486
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,720
rewatch those two movies.
Because he had, he had a lot.

1487
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,720
I mean, it was a lot of fear
because they were getting beat

1488
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,800
up on.
Yeah, they were getting attacked

1489
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,800
by the village idiots.
Yeah, it was right.

1490
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,760
Yeah.
So they definitely.

1491
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,760
He definitely goes after whoever
you can get the fear from, but

1492
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:23,360
they don't have a separate like
yeah he's a special hell for the

1493
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,120
children.
Yeah.

1494
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,280
And and that's the thing, I'm
like, what?

1495
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:32,160
So and I understand it's
probably because he is.

1496
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,760
I think the fear is greater
because I think it's children.

1497
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:45,440
Our imagination is not limited
as adult and you know, like

1498
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:47,960
adults are.
So we have, as children, we have

1499
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,120
the potential to believe in
more, you know, So like, if we

1500
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,160
see something weird, we're not
going to question it.

1501
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,680
Like an adult will probably see
something like Pennywise

1502
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,000
standing there with a balloon
and be like, I'm imagining that.

1503
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,360
And when they turn around and
look, it's gone because they

1504
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,520
don't automatically get scared
or they don't automatically

1505
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,760
assume that that's something
that's real, you know?

1506
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,960
And maybe that's why he feeds
off the children, because the

1507
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:16,760
children, their imaginations are
so open.

1508
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:18,840
Yeah, yeah.
He can be like, yeah, I can

1509
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,760
literally show them or do
anything to them, and they're

1510
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:23,920
going to believe it.
And they're going to, you know,

1511
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,000
they're going to get scared.
And yes, that's what I want.

1512
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,480
Yeah, but he definitely knew
what he was doing when he chose

1513
01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:35,760
the clown persona.
Honey, no.

1514
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,200
Listen and the.
But I think King King in

1515
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:43,680
interviews has said that was why
he had it go after children, is

1516
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:49,320
because their fear is much more
powerful and much more pure than

1517
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:53,360
adult fear.
OK, yeah, but if you stumble

1518
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,320
upon an adult with a bunch of
fear, I mean, hey, it's like,

1519
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,720
you know, I don't know, side
snack.

1520
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,880
Yeah, but I want a steak, and
that's the kids.

1521
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,880
Yeah.
Because they have a high rate of

1522
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,640
missing children in their area.
Right.

1523
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,360
And that's the one thing like.
Yeah, he said it.

1524
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:17,640
Yeah, but then he said it in the
in Part 1 is the kids and

1525
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,360
adults.
It's just kids is a higher

1526
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:23,640
number, but the whole adult and
kid number is higher than the

1527
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,600
national average.
Yeah, yeah.

1528
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:30,600
And people tend to forget that
their kids and adults missing.

1529
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:32,800
And that's what I was going to
say.

1530
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:37,400
It's something about and, and of
course we know dairy is like the

1531
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,800
main setting for most of his
stories, but my whole thing is

1532
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:46,440
if I'm living in dairy and all
these children, all this weird

1533
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:47,640
shit is happening.
Yeah.

1534
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,600
I'm leaving, I'm I'm moving.
So I'm just kind of wondering I.

1535
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:53,680
Well, it's not necessarily
dairy.

1536
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:57,800
It's it's the area of Maine
because there's Jerusalem's lot

1537
01:28:58,440 --> 01:29:02,040
dairy and then there's.
He's talking about dairy, the

1538
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:08,040
numbers for dairy.
But the issue is that it does

1539
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:14,160
have a spell over the area, so
people don't leave and they're

1540
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,480
kind of numb to what is
happening because then it stops

1541
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,960
and then they're fine and then
it happens.

1542
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,160
Yeah, so then and then another
generation is involved.

1543
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,440
So they don't because someone
did a deep dive on like it is,

1544
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:32,360
because of just the power IT
has.

1545
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:39,200
The losers from the Losers Club
left, but they're different.

1546
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,320
Yeah, Whatever it is about them
made them.

1547
01:29:42,440 --> 01:29:44,280
Different because they faced
them.

1548
01:29:44,440 --> 01:29:48,440
Yeah, and they were able to
leave lost, still lost memory of

1549
01:29:48,440 --> 01:29:52,000
what happened, but they all end
up being successful too.

1550
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,120
Yeah, yeah.
But then when they came back it

1551
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,720
it kind of reins that that
memory start reinserted

1552
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,040
themselves and so that fear kind
of started.

1553
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:04,200
Off, but everybody else is like,
just drugged.

1554
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:08,440
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah, I do need to go back and

1555
01:30:08,440 --> 01:30:11,440
reread those books.
It's been a while since I've

1556
01:30:11,440 --> 01:30:12,680
read it.
I.

1557
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:14,600
Think I do want to reread it
too.

1558
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,760
Gosh, it's been like, maybe, I
don't know, maybe 20 years since

1559
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,720
I picked up that book.
But if you do, you find Juniper

1560
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:31,560
Hill shows up in a lot of books.
Yes, because wasn't oh, oh, what

1561
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,040
was his name?
The guy who?

1562
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,440
The guy who bullied the Losers
Club?

1563
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:38,840
The one Wasn't he at Junior
Juniper Hill too?

1564
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,240
Yeah, he was.
He was in Juniper Hill.

1565
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,640
But it was mentioned.
It was mentioned in the Dark

1566
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,640
Half.
It was mentioned in the dead

1567
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,360
zone.
It was mentioned in.

1568
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,720
I won't say Rose.
Was it Rose, Madden, whatever.

1569
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,080
Yeah, it showed Gerald's Game.
It was in Gerald's Game.

1570
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,200
Juniper Hill shows up in the
live and stuff.

1571
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:05,120
OK, OK, yeah, so like I said, I
need to go back and reread a lot

1572
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:06,960
of his stuff because it's been
years.

1573
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,280
Because I got to a point, I
think we we've had this

1574
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:13,120
conversation before.
As I've gotten older, I kind of

1575
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:17,840
strayed away from horror because
I my imagination is a little too

1576
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,240
overactive and I just got to a
point where I just couldn't deal

1577
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,360
with it.
But now I'm kind of slowly

1578
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,360
coming back into it, so.
No, you just realized what we've

1579
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:31,000
been telling you the last year.
So you are a whore person?

1580
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:32,840
Right.
But I also think, you know what,

1581
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:34,840
I think it was for you,
Hanukkah, you had babies.

1582
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:37,200
You know what?
And that could be it.

1583
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:38,720
Because that happened for my
sister.

1584
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,040
My sister was obsessed with
horror movies like my whole like

1585
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,480
youth and she I, she I was
upset, she was upset.

1586
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,120
And as soon as she started
having kids, she could not watch

1587
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,720
scary stuff anymore because
something about that nurturer,

1588
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,680
you know, her babies, it just
made her uncle.

1589
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,000
She couldn't watch that stuff
anymore.

1590
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,600
And then after that after and
they grew up and she was like, I

1591
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,040
can kick them in a bus and get
them out of my house.

1592
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,600
She's back to.
You know, watching whatever now

1593
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,760
and that could be it because
especially like especially my

1594
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,000
oldest daughter, she is a she's
a big hard person, but all three

1595
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,120
of them love hard stuff.
So like they would literally be

1596
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,360
like, mom, you got to come sit
down and watch this with us.

1597
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:18,200
And I'm like, I don't know if I
can do that, But it's like just

1598
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,080
in the last, I would say maybe
two or three years, maybe four

1599
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,760
years.
I'm kind of I started dipping my

1600
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:24,840
toe.
Back, but you know what it

1601
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,680
started with.
I don't understand why she say

1602
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:29,840
dipping toe.
We should be watching Walking

1603
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,680
Dead for 30 goddamns.
Now.

1604
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:38,680
Walking Dead, Walking Dead,
Interview with the Vampire, All

1605
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:44,400
the vampire, right Vampire
Diaries, while our vampires is

1606
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,040
whore.
I don't care what you say,

1607
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,960
whether it's sparkly or not,
it's still whore.

1608
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:56,680
OK, you have your whore that
falls into like different

1609
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,920
categories.
Like I can watch vampires, I can

1610
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,600
watch zombies.
Don't ask me to watch a Friday

1611
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,800
the 13th or a a A Nightmare on
Elm.

1612
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,600
Like I think I've watched one
Nightmare on Elm Street and that

1613
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,160
was enough for me.
I can't, I can't do it.

1614
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:11,760
I can't.
I can't fuck with Freddy Krueger

1615
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,600
like that.
I just I can't, cannot do it.

1616
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,200
So yeah, he.
He's the same.

1617
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:22,240
He's the same during species as
it female people's fear.

1618
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:23,920
Right.
And I was going to bring that up

1619
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:27,520
earlier is that's exactly what
he that was what his driving

1620
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,120
force was.
He fed off their fear.

1621
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:30,840
Yeah.
And he talks about that

1622
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,040
specifically in dream.
I was just watching dream

1623
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:36,840
warriors the other day and he
specifically says that the the

1624
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:40,200
fears taste so good in you.
That's why I'm coming, you know,

1625
01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:42,600
And I'm just like.
Man, how do you fight that?

1626
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:48,160
Yeah, no.
Oh, I think I can deal with

1627
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:52,720
Pennywise because I, again, I
read that book when I was 16, so

1628
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:57,520
I'm familiar with that type of
I'm, I'm familiar with

1629
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,000
Pennywise.
But like I said, even the the

1630
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,280
newer verses of it, it took me
two years before I watched them.

1631
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,520
And then I was just like, OK,
I'm gonna sit down and I'm gonna

1632
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,640
watch this and it's going to be
OK.

1633
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,440
And then I turned it on and I
was like, I don't know if I'm

1634
01:34:11,440 --> 01:34:13,400
ready for this.
Like I was good.

1635
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,880
I mean.
Did that Naruto run through the

1636
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:18,320
through the water in the
basement?

1637
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,200
When I say yeah.
Like the first.

1638
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:27,560
One on my couch and pause the
TVIII was like I can't I can't.

1639
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:31,520
It took me 30 minutes to turn
that, to turn it back on so I

1640
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,600
can finish it because that run
and then you see him doing the

1641
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,600
same run in one of the trailers
for this series.

1642
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,200
I was like.
Yeah.

1643
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,520
Yeah, Part 1.
Yeah, I remember seeing it's,

1644
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,480
it's funny because we were
actually, we're on a a cruise

1645
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:50,080
ship, one of the few that
actually has a movie theater on.

1646
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:56,440
And I was like, OK, you know, I
mean, the mini series scared me.

1647
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,960
It really did.
And you know, I hate clowns.

1648
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:03,440
However, Part 2 helped because
when I found out that it was

1649
01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:10,520
just a spider alien I was good.
I was like this is what I'm

1650
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:14,120
scared of.
All the stuff before is creepy.

1651
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,320
It does help it.
It did help and I was like OK I

1652
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:20,280
was able to.
It took a week to go back to

1653
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:24,520
sleep.
But when the the newest movies

1654
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,680
came out, that first one, I was
like, OK, I already know

1655
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:31,400
Georgie, you know arm.
But when we saw the teeth come

1656
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:35,400
out and no, you actually see him
bite his arm and then the little

1657
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:39,080
boy is literally crawling in the
rain with the blood coming from

1658
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,360
his arm and you just steady
reaching out and RIP his ass

1659
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:44,640
back in.
I was like, OK, we we know this

1660
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:45,800
is on some different type of
shit.

1661
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,080
Some.
Different type of shit and then

1662
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,760
the whole thing in the house.
This is different.

1663
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:56,400
With, with, with them in the
house and yeah, yeah, yeah,

1664
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,360
it's.
But it's different watching it.

1665
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,200
Yeah.
But watching it this week again,

1666
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:06,680
I was just like, it wasn't bad.
It was just funny because I'm

1667
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:10,040
like, come on, kids just don't
go that way.

1668
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,520
You see what the house looks
like.

1669
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,440
I.
You go in there, go.

1670
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:24,080
In I make Pennywise like, dude,
like, come at me, like smiling.

1671
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:27,600
First you look creepy and then
you will go.

1672
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,880
No, come, come nice.
Come like, hey, yeah.

1673
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,120
You know, he's a sweet, sweet
little kid.

1674
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,720
Can I help?
You the Tim Curry way, you you

1675
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,440
come sweet and nice and funny.
And then the did.

1676
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:45,280
You just say sweet.
Yeah, Tim, get the key.

1677
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,360
Tim Curry.
Was nice you came it was a.

1678
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:48,880
Balloon.
Well, you came with the red.

1679
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:52,960
First of all, you had me
running, running from a leopard.

1680
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:55,320
And then I get far from the
house.

1681
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:58,040
And then you got a bunch of red
balloons come up and then you go

1682
01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:00,960
to the And then you want to
smile.

1683
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:05,600
No, you smile 1st and then look
like I need to run.

1684
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:12,000
But yeah.
And I'm sorry, who got it worse?

1685
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,200
Beth got it worse.
I'm sorry.

1686
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,920
Bev got it worse.
And I can't think of his name,

1687
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:18,800
the one that died.
Stan.

1688
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,280
Stan 'cause he his, he, he was
eating.

1689
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:26,760
Oh, and we mentioned it.
Stan he.

1690
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:30,240
Still had the scars when he was
older on his face from being

1691
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:35,640
right 'cause it had his whole
face was in its mouth.

1692
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:40,120
OK, I'm just saying Stan is.
So he needed therapy.

1693
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:42,520
Teddy's nephew.
Right.

1694
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,400
Yep.
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's.

1695
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,720
He's the He's the son of Teddy's
brother.

1696
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,280
Right.
Yeah, so it hit that household

1697
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,640
like twice.
Yeah, yeah.

1698
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:55,720
It's a year, so.
'Cause they already had.

1699
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:56,320
Trauma.
Yeah.

1700
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:03,080
Mm Hmm Yep 'cause he killed, he
killed 1 and got close to

1701
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:06,120
killing the second one and then
Stan just couldn't deal with it.

1702
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,280
Yeah, man was like, oh, So what
you're saying is he's back?

1703
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:10,880
OK, good.
I'm going die now.

1704
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,080
Faye, try.
Yeah, right.

1705
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:14,760
He was like, yeah, I'm gonna let
y'all.

1706
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:18,600
Handle this cause but I I do
have oh this is when we stopped

1707
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,400
recording.
I had some plot holes on that

1708
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:24,640
one but dealing with staying but
maybe I can help me fix those.

1709
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:26,720
Oh, OK.
Yeah, we'll talk about that.

1710
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:32,880
But OK.
So welcome to dairy episode one

1711
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:33,600
there.
You go.

1712
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,680
Welcome.
Very strong start.

1713
01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:41,280
Welcome.
I don't know if welcome is the

1714
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,240
right word, but I guess we hear
now.

1715
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:48,160
So we hear now, and I hate.
I hate when the major was saying

1716
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:53,120
Oh yeah I'm getting that a house
in town for my family and I'm

1717
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:55,520
thinking don't do it.
Stay on the base.

1718
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,360
Stay on base.
But I don't know, because we

1719
01:38:58,360 --> 01:38:59,920
don't know what's in that
secret.

1720
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,360
We we don't know what's in that
secret, Baron.

1721
01:39:02,440 --> 01:39:04,080
I don't.
Care, but we know what's in the

1722
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:04,680
city.
Yeah.

1723
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,440
So stay on base, stay on the
base.

1724
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,560
So is this where you, this is
really where you want to stay,

1725
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,000
brother, right?
Where you want to stay?

1726
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:14,680
I don't think it's where you
want to stay.

1727
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:22,800
Like I, I don't know who's I
and, and, and I guess The thing

1728
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:28,920
is, like you said, people must
be like living in a fog or

1729
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:32,520
whatever because nobody is
saying, yeah, we got some weird

1730
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:37,160
shit happening around here.
Like OK.

1731
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:43,080
That's the whole point it has.
It has its claws into the people

1732
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:44,400
of the area.
Yep.

1733
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,520
Because when he was in the Jeep
when they first picked him up,

1734
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,840
the guy was like, he told him he
was staying And the guy was

1735
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:53,160
like, oh, well, dairy's the, you
know, the perfect place.

1736
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:54,760
You love dairy.
And I'm like.

1737
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:59,880
Yeah, he's, what did he say?
He said, I think my wife is

1738
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:01,920
looking forward to a little bit
of normal.

1739
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,640
He said, oh, but if you're
looking for normal, you're going

1740
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:06,920
to love it In dairy.
I was like, famous.

1741
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:11,240
You won't.
You're going to love dairy.

1742
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,160
Like.
Less truthful words have.

1743
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:23,080
Never been spoken let's yeah
see, but I think this series is

1744
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,840
going for six episodes in this
first season.

1745
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:30,560
I do not I don't know if they're
renewed for a second season yet.

1746
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,520
I don't know if we need a second
season, just depends on what

1747
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:39,720
they do with this first season
because I mean, we already know

1748
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,400
how the story ends.
It's just right now we're

1749
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:46,280
building up to get to that
point.

1750
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:50,080
So I don't know if we'll at at
some point in this series meet

1751
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:55,160
the newer lose losers club or
the, the, the generation in

1752
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:58,440
between this generation and the
losers club.

1753
01:40:58,440 --> 01:41:02,200
But.
I think I, I think they said

1754
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:04,280
they're thinking about going
backwards.

1755
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:05,280
Backwards.
Yeah, they're.

1756
01:41:05,480 --> 01:41:07,680
Going backwards and.
I thought there's something

1757
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:08,680
about.
That they're going to.

1758
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,480
Go backwards list of which
season, which time period is

1759
01:41:11,480 --> 01:41:12,080
going.
To come.

1760
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:16,280
Yeah, all those, all those side
stories and Lord stories from

1761
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:20,840
the book, they're going to. 19.
27 or something, like when he

1762
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:25,040
when he first got the clown
persona, it's like like in like

1763
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:29,040
way back and when they had like
a travelling thing or something.

1764
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,960
Yeah, they had that on this.
See that somewhere?

1765
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:34,200
I'm gonna have to look.
Look that up and then we can.

1766
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:38,800
So if they, if they do, yeah, if
they do that, that would be I, I

1767
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:40,560
would be down for that.
Heck yeah.

1768
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:42,400
I would be down.
For children, let's.

1769
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,840
Go and plus, it's something
different, like when when have

1770
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,800
you seen the series do something
like that where they just go

1771
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,280
backwards?
Yellowstone.

1772
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:55,480
Besides.
They're separate series, not the

1773
01:41:55,480 --> 01:41:58,320
same series.
Those are all separate series,

1774
01:41:58,320 --> 01:41:59,440
aren't?
They they're the same.

1775
01:41:59,480 --> 01:42:01,800
It's the same family.
Are those the same family?

1776
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,400
But it's not the same show.
It's different shows.

1777
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,720
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Anthony, OK, I do what you're

1778
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:12,000
saying.
It's called Yellowstone 1923.

1779
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,240
It's called Yellowstone 18.
It's.

1780
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:15,720
Not the same show.
Oh.

1781
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:21,760
OK, I get what you're saying,
but yeah, because you know, the

1782
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:26,840
we know that Pennywise makes his
appearance every 27 years.

1783
01:42:27,480 --> 01:42:34,280
So and and I know that in the
original miniseries, they kind

1784
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:37,120
of went back and they told us
about the different like

1785
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:39,640
tragedies.
Like I know that there is a if

1786
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,880
I'm not mistaken, there was a
factory fire that killed like 80

1787
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,680
something kids, 100 and
something people all together.

1788
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:51,280
And then there was another large
tragedy.

1789
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:57,160
There was a a gang massacre.
Yes, yes, there was the black

1790
01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:01,960
spot, the gang master, the
Easter egg hunt tragedy.

1791
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,920
So they're probably going to
touch on all of those so that

1792
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:08,800
they're going to do that That's
that's fine that that would be

1793
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,520
great.
And then that would also give me

1794
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,240
incentive just to kind of go
back and reread the book just to

1795
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:17,720
kind of re familiarize myself
with the story.

1796
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:23,320
But I, as much as I hate that
the kids are dying, I, I'm

1797
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:28,160
actually enjoying the first
episode, you know, and I just,

1798
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:34,200
it's, it's making me
apprehensive for what's coming

1799
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,880
next.
Like, are you going to introduce

1800
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,720
us to more children that we're
going to watch die?

1801
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:45,360
And what kind of trauma are you
going to continue to take Lily

1802
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:53,360
and Ronnie on from this point?
So I don't know you guys have

1803
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,880
any final thoughts about Welcome
to Dairy Episode 1?

1804
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:00,560
I I would say it lived up to
expectations.

1805
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:05,520
So, yeah, yeah.
That's a good way to say it, and

1806
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:09,280
that's a good way to say it.
And I don't think we need to say

1807
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,840
anything else on that note.
That is it for our show.

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01:44:12,440 --> 01:44:15,800
You can find us online at
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01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,560
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1810
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:20,440
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1811
01:44:20,440 --> 01:44:22,840
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1812
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,760
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1813
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,080
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