IT: Welcome to Derry (Season 1 Episode 7) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #388

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Harbor podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Anthony, Michelle and Dina
and we are discussing the

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penultimate season 1 episode for
Welcome to Dairy.

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And I'm going to start this out
with just a two word sentence to

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the writers.
Fuck you.

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Fuck you very much.
That's all I'm going to say.

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That's all I'm going to say
until later.

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All right, so so I got I got
three things.

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Number one clowns is creepy.
No matter what, listen, even

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when they just, you know, having
fun with flowers, it's just not

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right.
Number two, people suck.

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They do.
Yeah, and and three, love can be

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pure sometimes I.
Was about to say 'cause I don't

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have a four yes.
That's it.

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Those are not 33 takeaways from
this episode. 4 Make sure you

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you you can back up your talking
shit.

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Yeah, yeah, I.
Do you know you you always have

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those people and kind of like,
oh, I can do this, this, this,

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and then someone say, OK, and he
did that.

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Show me.
Yeah, show me also.

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Right here.
Look.

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I'll do #5 I'll do #5 fuck the
military because what the fuck

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was that y'all stealing my.
Shit, stop.

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You started it.
You did.

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That's how we do this episode.
OK, number six.

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Like, these are the important
talking points for the next hour

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and a half, OK, You know?
When something said it wasn't

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your daddy, believe it.
Right.

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And also, why would you want
that to be any it?

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I don't care if my daddy was
sitting on his lap, why would

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you want that to be your daddy?
I told you already, she ain't

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right.
She ain't.

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Right, and then there's this
crazy.

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Bitch, she ain't never been.
She is.

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She's never been right.
I'm just going to say that she

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ain't.
Never been right.

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Listen, I will, I will say,
'cause when y'all said how old

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she was, I couldn't remember.
And I think the reason why I

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couldn't remember how old she
was is 'cause she looks like

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she's young.
And you know how people don't

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they, they look, their bodies
are older, but they or their age

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is older, but their bodies look
young because they.

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Especially back in those times.
Yeah.

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And so that's why I thought she
was younger than she is, because

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she just looked, you could tell
she just looks like.

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Yeah, you're.
The same girl.

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I feel like she might have been,
she might have been 11.

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I I would give her like right
around 11, yeah.

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And then that would that would
put her at like that would put

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her at 66 now.
Yeah.

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So that that seems about right.
Let's see, I'm still saying it's

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like 5th grade, so that's 910,
but that's what the difference

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9311 she in that span.
Yeah, yeah.

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But.
But you know her.

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But be we know that emotional
development can be stunted by

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trauma.
Yeah.

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So she's emotionally stuck.
She's.

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Emotionally stuck?
Yeah.

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Yeah, and.
Well, I think she was prior to

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that even, because, you know.
From the mom, probably.

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The mom died, Yeah.
So so let's get into it because

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I do want to talk about that
because there there's some

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there's some interesting things
about her whole back story and

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her dad's back story.
So episode starts out back in 19

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O 8 and this I'm assuming is a
few months before Francis went

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to the carnival, because when we
see that first flashback of 19 O

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8, she's sitting to the side by
herself and there's like really

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no mention of her dad anywhere.
So I'm going to assume it's

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after that because also when she
shows her dad the clown costume

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in this episode, this is the
first time that she's worn it,

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you know, but not OK Nineteen O
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We get introduced to Bob Gray,
who is the original Pennywise

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the clown.
And going back to what we

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started out this episode with, I
don't know who thinks clowns

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that look like him are funny
because he definitely was giving

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off creepy vibes.
Now, the only thing for me that

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was different was when he smiled
a few times in his performance.

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It actually looked like a
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It was like everything else was
creepy, but the smile was

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genuine.
You know, like this is something

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he really enjoyed doing.
It was it was making him happy.

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I was like, that makes it even
more creepy because all of this

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is weird, but the smile looks
very human.

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It looks genuine.
I was like, OK, this is weird.

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But he's sitting there, he's
dancing, he's doing his little

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skit with the flowers and the
Beaver and or the chipmunk,

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whatever that thing was supposed
to be.

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And then his performance gets
morbid take.

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Yeah.
Is this what they consider

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children's entertainment back
then?

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Yeah, like a penny dreadful
clown show.

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Yeah, it's.
Right.

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And then it went dark.
And then it went dark like, OK,

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I'm OK with the flowers and then
the Beavers and the flowers.

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And then your wife died in the
OK, OK, You dancing with her,

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her costume.
Her.

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Yeah, her.
I thought it was supposed to be

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like her ghost.
That's what I felt like too.

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Either way, it's not right.
Creepy.

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Yeah.
No, either way, it's.

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Creepy.
I'm not paying for that.

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Helping you with the mechanics
of everything.

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Like, no wonder she was kind of
stunted, you know what I mean?

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Like.
Especially when we find out

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later on that her mom it well I
mean she doesn't say her mom is

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gone, she just says that was
mom's stage name.

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So obviously either mom left or
mom died.

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But if mom died for him to, I
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of holding on to her, if she was
his stage partner back then or

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something, but it was it.
It's very emotionally weird, you

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know?
When we were studying for trivia

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for Wizard for for Alice in
Wonderland.

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So apparently, like up until
Alice in Wonderland, everything

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that was geared towards kids
were morality plays.

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OK.
So we are, we are, we are kind

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of in a new age of entertaining
children.

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So it's still sort of like a
morality play.

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You know now that you say that
that does.

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Make sense?
Because you know what it makes

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me think of?
It makes me think of Claudia in

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season 2 of Interview with the
Vampire and, and her little

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play, because even though, and
it reminds me of the the theme

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song for this particular show,
you know, you have a little kid

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singing, a little girl singing
and she's singing and her voice

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is happy, but what she's singing
about is not necessarily happy.

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And then you have the background
images that are, you know, dark.

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And it was the same thing with
Claudia in Interview because

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she's she's playing this little
girl dressed up in this cute

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dress and she's basically
saying, I'm sick of this.

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I'm ready to fly out the window
and commit suicide.

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So.
But it's smiling and happy,

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right?
I thought.

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Yeah, that makes sense, Anthony.
That you bring that up because

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it reminds me that like all the
original fairy tales were really

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dark and and horrifying and now.
They weren't really, they

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weren't weren't really in the
business of making children daft

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and happy.
They were in the business of

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warning children about the
world, you know.

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Yeah, but that whole thing it,
it really was weird.

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And then the thing that really
kind of got me was he seemed to

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be drawing the kids in to the
show.

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And then at the end, when he
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starts doing his dancing, that's
when all these little fuckers

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get up on the stage and start
causing mayhem.

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I'm like.
Yeah, losing their minds and

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busting the balloons.
And I was like, what is?

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Pushing him, pulling his hair
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They I mean, it was.
Like torture.

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It was very weird.
It's just like he got attacked

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by the losers club.
But I you know what?

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But when you think about.
That foreshadowing.

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Those kids were just bad kids.
Or do you think that was also

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its influence back then even?
You know what?

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I don't know if I feel like it
was its influence yet simply

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because you had the little kid
standing in the barn door, the

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barn window, and I think he was
looking at that and saying, oh,

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you know what, this might be a
better way to do this.

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So I think he just happened to
look and see how the kids were

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behaving.
Because when we find out later

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on, this little kid, his parents
apparently have been attacked by

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and killed by Pennywise, and
Pennywise is inhabiting his

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body.
I think at that point Pennywise

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was looking like, oh, this is a
great way to lure kids to me.

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I don't have to.
I don't even have to fuck with

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the adults.
You can just go straight to the

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children, kids.
See, I, I don't know, I was

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thinking that was a kid he got a
while ago and that he's been

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using that kid to lure people.
That is easy.

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He's been, yeah.
Because he was like, oh, he did

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what he did to Bob.
Bob, he did the same thing.

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Oh, my mom, my parents are in
trouble.

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Can you help me?
You know, I can't find them.

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It's like he's probably been
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'cause he, 'cause he was
working.

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I think the thing that convinced
me that this was a more recent

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thing was right after the little
kid told Bob, you know, I can't

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find my parents.
And he was like, where are they?

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They're dead.
And, you know, Bob is sitting in

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nonchalant just drinking and
smoking cigarette.

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Then you hear the screaming in
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little boy he was like, what was
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And the boy says, that was my
mother.

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So I was like, oh, no, Pennywise
is like, I think it was recent.

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He was probably chewing on the,
you know, kind of taking his

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time with his, with his meal of
the parents.

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And he probably would have used
the little boy in that way.

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But I think he went to Bob
because he saw the effect Bob

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had on the children earlier.
He was like, oh, if I get with

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this guy, I can lure them all in
droves and in bulk instead of

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just one person at a time.
I'm just happy.

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I I, I hear what you're saying,
but Pennywise don't start in the

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afternoon and still chewing on
his food into the night time.

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He it doesn't it doesn't do
that.

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And I think I think it's more
convincing.

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I I'm more likely believe that
that's that's what he's been

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doing recently is using the
positive kid.

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He doesn't always finish his
victims off immediately because

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if that was the case, Bev would
have been dead.

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Yeah, but he don't go Well, he
had her float with.

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Me.
Yeah, he had.

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It hurts.
Different.

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No.
But he The thing is, he's been

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using the kid to get kids and
adults.

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The screams was only for Bob
because of how quiet things

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were.
If you heard that other people

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that heard that that scream, it
was to pull Bobby in to be like,

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hey, I need help with my mom.
And he did though, and he went

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right and he went.
Yeah.

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And also that was.
The crazy thing because you're

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so you're so unhelpful while the
kid is telling you all this

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stuff and then right after he
tells you his parents are dead

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and you hear the screaming, he
says who was that?

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He answers that's my mother.
No you just told me your Mama

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was dead like 2 seconds ago.
That would have been I don't

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remember him to tuck tail and
rule I.

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Thought they were dead though.
I remember saying they were

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dead, he said.
He couldn't find them.

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He said he couldn't find.
Them.

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No, I think he said they were
dead.

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Hold.
On But the other thing is the

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other thing is I think he's been
doing it a while because one of

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the one of the carnies, when
they found Bob's handkerchief

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with the blood on it, they're
like, oh, it had to be wolves.

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Must have dragged them off
because it's been a lot of wolf

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attacks in the area.
I guarantee you those wolf

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attacks were not wolf attacks.
OK, OK, I I forgot.

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Yeah, yeah, that, that, yeah.
And then I was wondering like,

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how did he get the the
handkerchiefs out of the woods?

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Because he didn't drop the
handkerchief with blood on it

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outside the woods.
I think they went looking for

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him.
They went looking for.

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Him.
OK, so then I guess the fire was

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full.
He didn't feel like eating them

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too.
Maybe because they were adults?

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Yeah, well, they weren't.
Yeah.

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And it was.
He wanted out of them.

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So he probably he just wanted
Bob though.

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That's who he wanted.
Yeah, yeah.

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He wanted to consume Bob so he
can take.

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Bob fix.
Yeah.

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Which is interesting to me
because he doesn't seem to have

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to, well, I guess because that's
just the form he he wants people

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to see him As for I guess
forever.

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But like, like he can pretty
much pretend to be anybody and

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he don't have to eat them to
pretend to be them.

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So it's interesting that he ate
Bob.

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He, he lured him to, I don't
know, I guess he wanted to taste

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him.
Like I want to know what he

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tastes like 'cause.
Maybe he doesn't.

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Maybe he doesn't have to.
Like you said, he doesn't have

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to eat them in order to project
the image.

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But in order for him to
physically have that image,

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maybe, maybe he has to do that.
And and take his dance style,

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his comedic timing, his.
Memories His.

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Voice.
Yeah, yeah, He was like, I got

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to get them all inside me.
Got.

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A bunch of crunchy, crunchy.
Oh my God, I got face on my

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face.
What?

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I you.
Know 'cause that's probably how

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he was able to do, that's how he
was able to do Maddie, 'cause he

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consumed all of Maddie.
Yeah, 'cause he was Maddie in

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the physical form, walking
around.

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Yeah, and he didn't.
He didn't eat all of Phil, Teddy

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and Susie.
Yeah.

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I tell you, but OK, going going
back to the to the Carney and

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them giving her the
handkerchiefs stuff.

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Why would you just give that to
the child like this?

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Is your gruesome father's death.
And not only that, y'all just

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automatically assume he's dead.
Like y'all look for 20 minutes

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and y'all like, oh, I guess he
gone.

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No, they were like what?
What was left of him?

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And they brought back the you
know, we found what was left of

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him.
And, you know, here's the

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handkerchief.
I don't think they found

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anything of him.
I think that that was the thing

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they found the handkerchief.
Back in those days, if you if

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you just found the bloody
handkerchief, it's nothing left

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because of those wolves, because
of the.

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Wolves and and they knew about
the wolves in the the wolves in

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the area were were eating people
too.

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So I was going.
To say probably there.

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Was no wolves in the area?
He could have been look, he

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could have had TB.
He could have been coughing in

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the handkerchief like we see
them doing all the other movies.

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You know, you got TB, you're
coughing up blood.

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Yeah, that that that projectile
is in splocks.

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This was a soaking at.
First I thought it was a chunk

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of him and then I was like, oh.
I did too.

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It was.
Yeah, I did too.

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And then he had to make.
Oh, sorry, go ahead.

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Now.
The only thing I was thinking

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about is if it was wolves, they
would have like dragged him to

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some place to feed children and
all that kind of stuff.

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Or they would have just had a
mangled body.

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But there was nobody, just a
handkerchief.

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There was some hungry.
Wolves.

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So yeah, yeah.
But then.

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You know he had to consume him
too, because he had to make sure

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he'd get that red wig, right?
OK, Bob couldn't.

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OK, so you're right.
Because because he said yeah,

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because they said there was no
body until we found the trace in

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him and all they had was a
handkerchief.

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And there's like, well, until we
find the body.

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OK, yeah.
And OK, so the the little boy

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did say I can't find my parents.
But even with that, if you say I

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can't find my parents.
And then you hear the scream.

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And you very calmly say, oh,
that's my mother, it's time for

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you to go because obviously this
kid ain't too worried about his

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mom.
If he hears her screaming, he's

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just like, that's my mother.
And I'm cool with that.

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Did you see the look on this
boy's face?

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Right.
Like what kid is is like that?

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He looks.
Creepier than the clown does.

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It's time to go, yeah.
So baby.

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And they didn't regard kids too
much anyway.

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Well that's why I just wish Bob
had some kept his his same same

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energy he had when he was like
Nah, I can't.

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Help you like right?
Like he wasn't even trying.

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Like, OK.
Can you help me find my parents?

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Can't you say I'm busy?
Busy drinking, drinking,

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drinking and then finally you
going to walk off with him.

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Come on right now.
Because he grabbed Joe.

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Hey.
That's our customer service

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tank.
Go there.

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Right, because at this point I'm
looking I'm like, also, Bob only

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likes his child.
He don't like no other children,

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right?
Right, that's what I was

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thinking.
Too.

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But then I started thinking
about after everything happens

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and you know Ingrid is told that
her dad is dead or whatever.

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I started thinking about Miss
Curious conversation with Lily

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in the last episode, how she was
saying that she stayed, you

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know, she stayed with the
carnival and then when they left

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dairy, she stayed in dairy.
I was like, she had to have

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remained in the carnival for a
while because we see her later

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on when Frances is at the
carnival.

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She's by herself.
And she does look a little bit

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older in that one.
And I don't know if that's just

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maybe she did her makeup
different, but I was like, how

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was she staying dairy by
herself?

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She had to stay for a couple of
years until she could support

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her own self.
And she probably just stayed

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with the carnival because they
were like, OK, you, you know,

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from, from what you hear of
those types of carnivals from

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the years, they treat each other
like family.

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So once her dad disappeared,
they probably were like, we're

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not going to leave you alone.
We'll still take care of you.

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You can still work with us and
we'll still pay you or we'll

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still, you know, provide your
upkeep.

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However they did that.
And then once they decided to

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move on, she was like, yeah, I'm
just going to stay.

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But I was like, she had to have
been older than that because she

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who was she going to stay with
as a kid?

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Just, oh, I'm not going with the
carnival.

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So where did you stay?
Who took care of you?

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So it had to been a few years.
And if you're in, you're in that

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environment, you're already
young.

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You've already dealt with the
loss of one parent, whether it

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was the parent that left or the
parent that died, whatever you

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dealing with the loss of 1.
And then you have another one

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taken from you so violently.
And then if you think about it,

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notice every time she talks
about her father, she talks

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about him being taken, not
killed, not dead.

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So I think like, yes, she she
got a couple of screws loose.

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But I think for her, she really
has always believed that her dad

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was just out there, which kind
of further makes me think that

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her mom just left, you know what
I'm saying?

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But.
She did say terrible accident

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she did, but I think she starts
saying taken after he had much

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of crunch in the basement and
then she was like, oh, that

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spirit took her day in because
at first she had did tell Lily

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that it was a terrible accident
that took him.

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I was like, it's.
Not.

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Accident, she said.
Something terrible happened.

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I don't know when because I was
like, oh, I wonder what

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happened.
I didn't realize.

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Yeah, No, I really thought he
just took his persona.

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I didn't think he killed him.
I just thought maybe he died at

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the, you know, like a bad freak
accident or something.

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I think he lured him into the
wood.

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There's a hip in there.
We found the body.

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Yeah, it'll.
Be there.

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Yeah.
And for her, that's terrible

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because it was blood everywhere.
So it was a terrible incident.

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But I'm just saying I wasn't
expecting him to be, you know,

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taken not like a free accident.
Something fall on them and then

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next to Pennywise, like, oh,
shoot, this is great.

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I have someone to He lured him
into the woods.

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So again, I think this is the
most we've ever dealt delved

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into the back story of the
original Pennywise the Clown,

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right, 'cause I don't think they
gave this story in the book and

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I know they didn't get go into
the IT that deeply in the in

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either of the movies.
Well, no, just say when Bev was

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in in the house, she had a
vision of Bob putting on the

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makeup and, you know, and she
saw the the same pictures.

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OK, yeah.
But that that was it.

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Then they like look and then in
the in the original movie, I

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think Hammer was in the second
movie in other movies, but they

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saw the the photo album of him
as the real kind of like what

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they showed in here with with
Lily looking in the album.

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They kind of had that same
similar thing.

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OK, but we never knew his full
back story, just what what he

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looked like and that he was a
real person that was a clown.

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Yeah.
OK.

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All right.
Yeah.

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How unfortunate.
That blood on the handkerchief,

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it's like, yeah, you got little
splatters, but it's all

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concentrated in one spot.
Yeah, it almost look like some

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brains and stuff on there, but
it's not just, you know.

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Yeah, it's soaked in blood.
It's.

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Soaked in blood, it's.
Soaked it's they had a little

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tub.
In in his his outfit.

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And then they just presented it
to her, like, here's a present

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for you.
All right, who does that to a

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child?
Or anybody, really.

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I guess that's what they do in
19 O 8.

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Yeah, I mean, he probably just,
he's like, I ain't really got no

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tact.
I'm just go tell her how I can

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tell her.
Yeah.

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And that could be some people
don't have, they don't have that

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kind of, I don't know, bedside
manner when it comes to

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children, especially if they
don't have any.

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Yeah.
And him being the, the owner of

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the, of the carnivore or
whatever, he probably was just

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like, damn, now I got to find
another clown.

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You know, I mean, think about
it.

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That's, that's, that's probably
a good source of entertainment

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for him.
He probably had to give refunds

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that night because while
Pennywise was over there

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drinking and smoking, you can
hear the announcement in the

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background, like the next
Pennywise show will be in 30

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minutes.
Blah.

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Blah blah won't.
Be he, he probably had to give

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out some refunds and.
Come out and.

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Naked.
And you know, he got to think.

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He got to think about his his
business, his operations, yeah

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and I mean, regardless of how
the Carney community might be

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family, whether he whatever,
he's probably also thinking,

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damn, now there's another mouth
I got to feed cause her dad's

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gone.
He not just going to kick her

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out on the street, but.
Go and put that Perry Winkle on

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for me.
Do a little dance.

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Do a little dance, little
Periwinkle.

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So it's funny because I didn't
notice until I rewatched so we

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could take the last episode.
When I rewatched the last

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episode, I had noticed that she
said that her name was

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Periwinkle and when she was
talking to Lily.

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And then so when I went back and
I watched this and she was

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saying she took her mom, you
know, he gave her mom's name and

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she was like, oh, bad, blah,
blah, blah.

452
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,400
And then she was like, I was
talking a little about her, her,

453
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,280
him and his little periwinkle.
And I was just like, oh, she's

454
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,720
far gone, like far.
Because that was her mom's stage

455
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,280
name.
And now she got it.

456
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,240
And oh, she was not going to let
that go.

457
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,080
That meant everything to her,
like her whole everything

458
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,840
because her dad gave her that
honor.

459
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,840
You could tell like she was so
like, yeah, like, you know, And

460
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,880
I was just like, oh boy, this,
This is why this is.

461
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,760
Why, Yeah.
And also, I mean, think about

462
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,080
it.
Her dad, again, it seemed like

463
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:36,400
he doted on her.
You know, once he was gone, she

464
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,360
probably didn't have that from
anybody else we see.

465
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,320
She obviously didn't have it
from her husband, which could

466
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,600
also be a reason why she ended
up with Hank in the first place.

467
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,240
Yeah, You know, she was.
She was going in search of

468
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,240
something, connection, whatever.
And then it just when she put it

469
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,840
to, you know, two and two
together, like, oh, this might

470
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,840
be how I can see my dad again.
You went from one form of love

471
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,440
or whatever it was you have with
Hank.

472
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,280
And you're like, oh, but I can
get the greatest one over here.

473
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,800
I just got to sacrifice this 10.
Boy.

474
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,880
But OK, let's go ahead and get
into the black spot.

475
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,280
Get into the black.
Spot the black spot.

476
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,760
Because Speaking of Hank Rogan,
I thought you said you was going

477
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,120
to sell your ass in that room.
No.

478
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:32,160
Yeah, because you would have
been fine if you did, but you

479
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,800
showed yourself you just made it
worse.

480
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,080
You.
You did.

481
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,680
I don't want people to get.
Shot because of me Well, you

482
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,200
did.
Everybody died because of me,

483
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,840
right?
Everybody and.

484
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,640
And what did you think they was
going to do?

485
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,440
Did you think they was going to
take you?

486
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,680
You knew they was going to lynch
your ass.

487
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,160
Been in and you just told Ronnie
y'all was never Yeah, you told

488
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,320
You told Ronnie y'all was never
going to be separated again.

489
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,880
The hell.
Like that there, I just can't

490
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,720
imagine there was nowhere to
like he couldn't figure out

491
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,360
nothing else besides coming out
there and like they're not going

492
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:15,960
to leave witnesses that they
strung you up and and and

493
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,160
lynched you.
That part, that part, you know,

494
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,560
so all those people, they were
dead regardless whether they

495
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:29,080
gave him up, whether they they
continue to hide him.

496
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,680
Like I said, they had windows.
He could, he could have jumped

497
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,520
out a window, he could have ran
into the night, he could have

498
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,840
hid.
And then if they would have gone

499
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,480
and searched, they would have
been like, oh, OK, he didn't

500
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,800
have to come out and do the way.
And then not only that, you know

501
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,040
what kind of reaction your
daughter is going to have.

502
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:56,040
So now you really have put her
in danger, not to mention her

503
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,640
friends that, you know, are I
mean, Will was.

504
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,000
Yeah.
I I have AI have a huge problem

505
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,800
with Hank Grogan.
And I mean, I I understand you

506
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,400
really were trying to you you
you thought you were doing the

507
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,120
right thing.
Hey, don't don't bother them.

508
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,240
I'm here, I'll I'll come
quietly, but like you said,

509
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,320
they're not going to leave
witnesses to that, especially if

510
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,680
you find him hanging from a tree
the next day.

511
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,760
They used to fire bomb churches
just because black people was in

512
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,960
there so.
So a little illegal droop joint.

513
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,040
Yeah, you think they?
Just don't they going to let

514
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,960
that ride.
And they don't even care.

515
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,520
It's part of the military land.
It doesn't even matter.

516
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,440
No, doesn't matter that they had
masks over their face and nobody

517
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,640
would be able to point out who
it was anyway.

518
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,880
All all you got to do is
probably walk into town.

519
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,240
I mean, oh, I remember that car.
Oh, I remember that car.

520
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,440
You can easily do that.
But again, you have two

521
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,440
witnesses who saw the cars who
would be able to identify there.

522
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,000
There was no way out for this
situation.

523
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,440
None.
And then for it to for it to

524
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,760
escalate as fast as it did,
because they come into they come

525
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,440
into the Juke joint, they have
the guns drawn.

526
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Hey, we want Hank Grogan.
And like we said in the last

527
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,120
episode, these are military men.
So they pulled their guns out.

528
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,120
They was like, oh, you didn't
think we was just in here.

529
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,280
Just be in here, right?
So now you have a standoff.

530
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,440
Not only that, you got kids over
here.

531
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,520
Yeah.
So, yeah, that is the part that

532
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,240
bugged me about that We got a
standoff.

533
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,240
You got kids over here.
Did they not see the kids?

534
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,000
I don't, I don't think they were
paying attention to the kids

535
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,600
because I think the way that I,
the way that I looked at it and

536
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,560
all the, all the adults were
kind of standing around.

537
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,160
I think they were shielding the
kids to try to protect them.

538
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Because I mean, think about it,
all the folks in the Juke joint,

539
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,880
they were cool with Rich and
Marge being in there and Will

540
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,480
being in there.
You know, I mean, old boy gave

541
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,520
them some, some drink.
Somebody else put Rich on the

542
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,560
drums.
They were having a good time.

543
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,320
And I'm going to be, I'm
completely honest, right?

544
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,800
The girl who was the singer.
Get your butt home.

545
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Yeah, and she, she.
Was probably a teenager.

546
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,600
I think they probably did see
Will and Ronnie and didn't care

547
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,640
and they popped right?
And then they could have saw

548
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,360
Rich and still didn't care.
But if they had saw Marge, it

549
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,880
was a bit different.
That's what they didn't see.

550
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,960
I don't know if that.
I don't know if at that point it

551
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,920
would have made any difference.
For her it would because they

552
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,560
would have sent her out like the
other girl.

553
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,680
I do wonder about that because.
Because.

554
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,360
Yeah, right.
Because Rich Richie wasn't

555
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,080
technically right, right?
So him, yeah, but if they saw

556
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,840
Marge, they would have sent her
out like they seen I.

557
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,920
Thought they saw the kids and
that's and they so they saw the

558
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,920
guns and they might have seen
the kids and that's why they was

559
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,040
like, OK, let's back away.
But then of course they were

560
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,480
just like, Nah, lock them up.
Yeah, yeah.

561
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,840
That's what.
I was going to say and start

562
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,520
shooting.
So they while they try to get

563
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,720
out.
Yeah, because when that's

564
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,400
because when when they when they
drew the guns and he said put

565
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,160
your put your weapons down, put
your weapons down.

566
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,200
OK, everybody, let's go, let's
go.

567
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,280
I was like that.
That was way too easy.

568
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,760
So I figured they were just
going to go outside, wait for

569
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,120
them to come out and then pick
them off that way.

570
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,360
I didn't think as soon as they
closed the door, I thought about

571
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,400
it and I, I thought back to the
Patriot and I was like, oh, I

572
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,560
know what's about to happen.
This is about to be horrible.

573
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:48,200
I I just want to point out
Dick's face when it came out.

574
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,800
This is like.
This motherfucker, Yeah, you

575
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,640
just caused up some problems
there.

576
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,680
I mean, indeed, you don't
brought that, he said it, he

577
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,000
said.
He said you about to bring down

578
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,040
a whole lot of trouble on us.
And guess what?

579
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,000
That's exactly what he did.
Yeah, yeah.

580
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:19,680
And so of course, the racist,
the white people, they chain the

581
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,440
doors up and they firebomb the
Juke joint.

582
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,160
So now you've got people
panicking, you've got people

583
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,640
trying to get out.
They've already locked both of

584
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,080
the doors.
Every time someone goes to the

585
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,160
window and they try to shoot
outside, they're getting shot.

586
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,440
So you got people getting their
heads blown out, people getting

587
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,760
shot, all this stuff going on.
And then you have the kids who

588
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,400
are also in there panicking,
trying to get out.

589
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:56,040
It is pandemonium.
I'm just, again, I hate I as

590
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,400
much as we hate to see these
images, I'm glad that they

591
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,040
showed it because again, a lot
of people don't know that stuff

592
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,920
like this really actually
happened until they watch it in

593
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,560
something like this or something
Lovecraft Country or in the

594
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,880
Watchmen.
Yeah, you know.

595
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,440
Or sinners, because that's what
they were going to do.

596
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,239
They were going to do that in
sinners.

597
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,800
Yeah, there's been a lot of
comparisons actually to sinners

598
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,040
with the a lot of this stuff.
Yeah, yeah.

599
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,199
But I mean, it was the IT was
the times.

600
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,920
That's that's what they did.
It was an everyday.

601
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,800
Thing for black people.
Yeah, but.

602
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,440
Like being said, they would just
firebomb the church just because

603
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,440
that's together, that's
together.

604
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:45,199
Yeah, so in the midst of all
this chaos, everybody dying,

605
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:52,480
everybody getting shot and all
this other stuff, Dick starts

606
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,520
seeing the dead people walking
around.

607
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,800
He sees the dead people that are
dying right then and there.

608
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,880
I think he sees some other dead
people.

609
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:12,960
And then he sees a native woman
walking through The Walking

610
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,680
through the the the Juke joint.
And he does what he didn't want

611
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,760
to do.
He calls out to her because he's

612
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,480
trying to, he's trying to figure
out a way out because at this

613
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,160
point they're trapped.
They there is no way out.

614
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,480
The windows are being watched.
They, the, the men have

615
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,280
surrounded the place.
Every time someone gets out of

616
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,640
window, they get shot.
If they go to the window and try

617
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,240
to shoot, they get shot.
But I thought he called, called,

618
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,840
called her because he did have a
way out.

619
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,080
But he heard the kids and that's
when he called.

620
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,360
So I can find the kids because
he's about to leave.

621
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,040
Oh.
Yeah.

622
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,360
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, he was good.

623
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,280
He was good.
When he was getting ready to

624
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,400
leave and.
I no, but yeah, he but he was

625
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,120
good though.
And then he was like, oh crap,

626
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,360
his children.
But but you know, if you notice

627
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,920
when he heard the kids at first
he was still going to go.

628
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,440
Yeah, but the kids screaming and
then he changed his mind and

629
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,320
that's when he asked her, where
are the kids?

630
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:17,800
Like, damn, I got to do this
because he wasn't going to leave

631
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,320
them.
He was about to leave them.

632
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,840
That's the little girl who who
mother or whoever, I think it

633
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,800
was her mother who was the
original person that was like.

634
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,280
She she's the she's the one that
wouldn't, that became the

635
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,920
gatekeeper or the the one she.
Got her mother.

636
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,400
Killed the 13 artifacts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

637
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,480
But in the midst of all this,
you know, like I said, the kids,

638
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,320
they're they're trying to stick
together.

639
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,920
Willing, Ronnie, are trying to
stick together.

640
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,080
And they keep getting torn apart
by people who are panicking,

641
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,040
running, whatever, whatever.
Willing.

642
00:36:55,240 --> 00:37:00,200
I mean, Rich and Marge are
sticking together.

643
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,280
They're trying to stay together.
They're trying to find a way

644
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:09,200
out.
And Ronnie notices Pennywise,

645
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,960
because Pennywise, he, he
appears and he's looking around

646
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,240
like, oh, I got a smorgasbord
here, and literally starts

647
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,640
munching on one of the ladies.
And Ronnie sees it and he just

648
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,360
kind of looks at her and just
makes it known that Yep, I'm

649
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,240
here, I'm about to have some
fun.

650
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,240
Dick sees him.
I don't think Richard Marge ever

651
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,520
saw him.
I think it was just Ronnie,

652
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:43,600
because I think Ronnie was.
I feel like Ronnie was more

653
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,680
scared not only just because of
her, but she was also like,

654
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,320
Daddy, where are you, Dad?
She's she's still worried about

655
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,640
her dad because she and her dad
got separated in the midst of

656
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,480
all of this.
So I think probably on that fear

657
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,120
level, she was probably at the
highest.

658
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,880
So Pennywise was like dialed
into her, you know?

659
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:08,720
Yeah, but I don't even know if
I'm going to get through.

660
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,080
This I don't have I I don't
really have any words for it.

661
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,440
It's it's other than I mean
Penny wise is there doing his

662
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:22,960
thing, but just this whole thing
is is just disturbing.

663
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,840
Right it is.
To see.

664
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,480
And try to.
Escape and you're being shot.

665
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,400
And that's what I mean by people
are just awful.

666
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,800
People are.
Because this was not even out of

667
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,560
the norm.
Yeah, for this like it didn't

668
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,040
need Pennywise.
For sure it didn't.

669
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,040
But because, but because
everybody is scared.

670
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,440
Oh, Pennywise, that that's what
he he.

671
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,160
Oh, this is exactly what I need.
And well, that's what that's

672
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,680
what Ingrid says later when
she's talking to him.

673
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,800
She's like, I knew if I did
this, you couldn't resist all

674
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:05,040
the pain and death that you
would be here, right?

675
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,120
But she said all this up just
for that.

676
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:14,560
So.
Trifling, but OK.

677
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,040
Lots of death.
Lots and lots of death.

678
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,320
And you have the kids who are
trying to escape.

679
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,320
Ronnie gets thrown around from
one person to another person.

680
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,040
Marge accidentally falls into
some fire.

681
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,240
Her arm is catches on fire.
Rich puts it out and in the

682
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:38,960
midst of all this, Dickie is, is
walking around and this is where

683
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,240
he sees an old soldier with the
bayonet on him.

684
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,760
And this old, oh, he, he just
walked across my screen.

685
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,080
This soldier, his whole lower
jaw is, is completely gone.

686
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,880
So this was obviously not one of
them because nobody had a

687
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,520
bayonet on their shoulder.
This had to be an older.

688
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:04,120
Never died in that area, but.
You know, he actually figures

689
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,320
out a way to get out because
when he came to the black spot

690
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,520
earlier that day, after
everything he had gone through

691
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,840
in the tunnel, he noticed that
there was a leak coming from the

692
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,080
refrigerator.
So the floor is wood.

693
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,760
The floor is weak.
He he gets somebody to help him

694
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,240
move the refrigerator.
He punches a hole or kicks a

695
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,400
hole into the floor.
He's getting ready to escape.

696
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,280
Like we said, he's like, yeah,
I'm about to go.

697
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,600
Ronnie is calling for her dad
and he looks and he was like,

698
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,640
oh, she needs her dad.
And then he he was like, Nope,

699
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,880
I'm still going to go.
I'm still going to get down.

700
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:47,360
Then as he's getting ready to
crawl into the the hole, this is

701
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:53,480
where the native ghost comes.
And I don't know if that was

702
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,120
just something that he all of a
sudden got a guilty conscience

703
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,480
or he was like, OK, if this, if
this person is here right now,

704
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,320
let me use her to do what I need
to do.

705
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:09,360
Because Dick was still about to
get in that floor even after he

706
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,800
heard Ronnie.
Where's my dad?

707
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,760
Where's my dad?
But I, I don't know if they

708
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,760
would have let him rest, be in
peace if they like, Oh, you let

709
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,280
children to save your ass.
So he's like, you know what?

710
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,880
Let me go on ahead and open my
mouth and and and and try to

711
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,320
find these children.
I, I think part of it is because

712
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,600
he knew this was a lot of this
with, with Penny Wise with his

713
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,560
fault when he, especially when
he saw the native lady and

714
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,040
probably jog his memory that he
took the information.

715
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,000
You know, he's helping basically
to try to like, I mean, he's

716
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,280
helping to stir Penny Wise up to
a certain extent by doing what

717
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,040
he's doing.
Yep.

718
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,720
So Penny wise, he comes in, he
comes strolling in and I was

719
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,880
like, this is not supposed to be
funny.

720
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,160
And it's like in the midst of
all of this.

721
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,760
He's strolling in.
He was strolling in, he was

722
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:09,640
like, hey, And he finds one of
the girls and he calls out to

723
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,080
her name.
And he was like, come, let me

724
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,560
help you.
Maybe it was the fear, but I'm

725
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,720
sorry if I'm in a fire and that
clown comes to me and says let

726
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,680
me help.
You know what, I will take my

727
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,320
chances with the fire.
Yeah.

728
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:30,480
Yeah, that was just a lot of
despair though, because I, there

729
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,960
would never be, there's never a
time unless I was passed out

730
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,840
that I would have stopped trying
to get out of there.

731
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,480
I I would have been trying to
find something like something

732
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:43,400
because I, I just can't imagine
just sitting down and just yeah,

733
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,400
yeah.
Like once the, you know, the

734
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,120
kids were stuck, they were
stuck.

735
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,840
The, the stuff fell down.
They were stuck.

736
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,480
She wasn't stuck because the
spare just took over her and she

737
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,480
I just came to my, I mean, I.
Well, I think because she was

738
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,760
with somebody, they were getting
ready to leave and he literally

739
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,800
had just gotten shot in front of
her.

740
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,320
Yeah, so at this point, she's.
And I think she was just kind of

741
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,760
like, if I move, I'm going to
die, you know what I'm saying?

742
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,960
She was, she was thinking about
that immediate danger, I think.

743
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,120
Yeah, so I was like, girl, what
is she doing?

744
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,760
Pick up.
But it didn't matter because

745
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,920
when Ronnie sees Pennywise, he's
jumping on her like he's almost

746
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,240
eaten half her face.
And he's like, do I have face on

747
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:25,080
my face?
I was like.

748
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,800
Motherfucker.
Face on my face.

749
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,040
Face on my face.
This.

750
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,600
Ain't.
Oh my gosh.

751
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,880
And then Dick finds Ronnie and
they see Pennywise.

752
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,920
And Penny was Pennywise was
like, do you see?

753
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,080
Are you seeing things?
Well, I think they see you too.

754
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,640
And you see a whole army of dead
people behind Pennywise walking

755
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,520
towards them.
I was like, Oh my God.

756
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,000
Oh my God.
So then Hank finds Dick finds

757
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,800
his daughter.
They get ready to go into the

758
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,760
hole and Dick is like, we still
got other kids.

759
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,000
Or rather, I think Hank says
that to him.

760
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,840
There's still other kids.
There's still other kids.

761
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,480
We got to get the other kids
because I think they have Will

762
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:18,480
at this point, too.
So it's just Rich and Marge and

763
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,240
Dick is trying to get to them
and the ceiling collapses in

764
00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:25,320
between them.
So they're cut off at this

765
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,280
point.
Dick gets in, you know, he, he

766
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,160
keeps going.
Rich and Marge are left to try

767
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,320
to figure out a way to get out
or, you know, perish in the

768
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,240
fire.
There is a box and it's, it's,

769
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,960
it's a box that I think it was
like a cooler or something

770
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,520
because they had the sodas.
And Rich is like, help me turn

771
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,160
this over.
We can get in and, and we can,

772
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,240
you know, shield ourselves from
the fire.

773
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,440
He was like, this is the only
way we're going to make it out.

774
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,360
I, I can't, I can't, I can't.
It's it's on that part now and

775
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,880
Marge is telling him she's like,
it's too, it's too small, it's

776
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,480
too much room.
He was like, no, we can fit.

777
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,880
We can fit.
Fit.

778
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,720
Get in, get in, He.
Puts her in and when she gets in

779
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:11,920
and she realizes how tight it.
Is now.

780
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:19,200
She's like, we both can't fit.
Oh my God.

781
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,680
And Rich looks at her.
At this point I am ugly sobbing

782
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,840
to the TV because I know what's
about to happen.

783
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,600
Rich closes her in the he he
pushes her down.

784
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,800
He's like, look there.
We're we're both not going to

785
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,120
fit.
You're going to be OK, you're

786
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,520
going to be OK.
And he's he's shuts her in there

787
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,600
and he lays on when he laying on
top of it.

788
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,000
I was done.
I was done.

789
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,440
Because this whole time we've
been talking, we've been talking

790
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,240
all season, and I have said Rich
is my favorite character.

791
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,240
Yeah, which means I know he's
going to die, but I was totally

792
00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:01,200
prepared for him to have a
violent, gruesome death by

793
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,720
Pennywise.
This is what I was prepared for.

794
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,200
I was not preparing.
For this sweet sadness.

795
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:13,320
For this beautiful death scene.
Phenomenal.

796
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,920
Phenomenally acted, Yeah.
By a fucking kid, yeah.

797
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,880
This is worse.
Yes.

798
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,280
And then to the sewer.
Because he was at peace knowing

799
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,720
he was saving the woman he loved
and he was too young to be

800
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,280
putting a grown feeling.
Right.

801
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,600
I, I would have took that
picture when I saw you in that

802
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,920
hallway.
You made that comment.

803
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,520
I love you.
I love you kissing the.

804
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,840
He kissed the.
He kissed.

805
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,320
The box, he kissed the box.
I was like, you know what?

806
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,960
And the other thing is while
while they're sitting there

807
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,720
having a conversation, like you
said, he's completely at peace.

808
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,520
Because it was so interesting.
You know, I've been talking for

809
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,240
the last couple of episodes.
I was like, we still haven't

810
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:06,200
seen what Rich's fear yet.
We haven't seen his fear yet.

811
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:08,160
Like Pennywise hasn't come after
him.

812
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,120
Pennywise didn't have a dog in
that fight.

813
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,600
He didn't have anything to grip
with Rich because even from the

814
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,560
beginning when when Lily came
and told them about Pennywise

815
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,600
and and Rich came into it, he
was like oh OK that's an evil

816
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,800
spirit.
We know how my family knows how

817
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,680
to get rid of them.
He was very mad of fact about

818
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,760
it.
Now granted, he was scared the

819
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,000
times that he had Pennywise in
his face, because who wouldn't

820
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,680
be right?
Yeah.

821
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:41,160
But every other time he has been
the most level headed out of all

822
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:46,040
of them and it shows in this
scene.

823
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,920
This boy knew he was going to
die to save this girl and he was

824
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,520
completely fine with it and even
went back to the conversation

825
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:01,480
they had in the cafeteria about
pirates and and nights, you

826
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,600
know, and he was like, you know,
the other thing that Knights do.

827
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,720
He was like we saved the fair
maidens.

828
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:12,160
Save the fair maiden.
And she knew once he said that,

829
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,200
she knew it was the done deal.
It was absolutely done.

830
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,440
She stopped fighting because how
at this point, how are you going

831
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,600
to take that away from him?
And.

832
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,840
When they down to him, when he
was just so calm, like he just

833
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,200
was he was calm.
So he, just like everybody else,

834
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,760
is running around screaming or.
You know, terrified in the

835
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,360
corner, like he was just calm
like this is what I'm supposed

836
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,040
to do.
He laid down on his basically,

837
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,120
he laid down on his grave and he
he did what he needed to do.

838
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:52,400
He got he got large calm.
He expressed his feelings for

839
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,640
her and it was it was so sweet
because you would think him

840
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,800
being the one who had the crush
on her the longest that he would

841
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,560
have been like I love you.
But in the last episode when she

842
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,600
mentioned dating, they were both
kind of uncomfortable.

843
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,360
I don't think he wanted to make
her uncomfortable in that

844
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,200
moment.
So when she said it to him, I

845
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,960
love you Rich.
I was like, you know what?

846
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:19,920
I can't fuck y'all.
Fuck the writers who did this.

847
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,200
But also at the same time,
bravo, because that was some

848
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:29,960
amazing writing.
Very RNS Cartaya.

849
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,000
That's that's the young actor's
name who plays rich.

850
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,920
Give this boy all the awards
because he.

851
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,800
So he deserves the Emmy.
He.

852
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,440
Acted in this scene better than
some adult actors I've seen

853
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,400
doing this for years for sure.
That boy.

854
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,480
Golden Globe.
Yes, he deserves it.

855
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,000
He has some instinct and he has
some talent.

856
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,800
Yeah, so who's going to use rich
for their what is it?

857
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,320
What's our thing?
Funerals and repass.

858
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,160
Oh, the funerals and Repass.
Who's going to have Rich on

859
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,520
their list for that?
Somebody better, somebody

860
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,240
better.
Can we count this as sci-fi

861
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:09,160
since he's an alien?
Yes, we can do it at telefast.

862
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,000
Oh yes, absolutely.
Absolutely, it is an alien and

863
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,920
has a spaceship.
Oh my God.

864
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,840
This is about tears.
And when he like, like Michelle,

865
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:27,160
when he kissed that box, Yeah,
like it, it, it.

866
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,600
Has everybody.
It's everybody because like you

867
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,600
look at social media, YouTube,
everyone is in a chokehold from

868
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,280
this.
Yes.

869
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,560
It's just would have been better
if Rich died in the sewer

870
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,600
because this is worse.
And like everyone was done all

871
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,760
week and it only been not all
week.

872
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,960
It felt like a week.
It's only been two days.

873
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,880
It only been 2 days.
Yeah.

874
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,760
Yeah.
And then two things.

875
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,920
One, we saw how he was going to
die when we first see Rich,

876
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:58,520
which is really I hate when they
do shit like that.

877
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,840
Yeah, I just get that clip about
that.

878
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,480
Yeah, because you see the fire
in her her glasses.

879
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:06,840
And I thought it was weird
because I said something

880
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,000
Anthony, like, well, there ain't
Penny.

881
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,680
Why?
So why was there fire in her

882
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,680
glasses?
But I didn't pay attention to

883
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,560
it, not thinking there's going
to be a fire later on in this in

884
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,160
this season.
And then second Marge's husband.

885
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,000
I feel sorry for him.
Yeah.

886
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,960
Well, I think you were saying,
you were saying in the last

887
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,840
episode, Dina, somebody has a
fan theory that Marge is

888
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,840
actually Richie told you and she
named her kid after him.

889
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,960
Whatever her husband is, yeah.
He's he's second, he's second

890
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,640
fiddle baby.
Yeah, everyday, but.

891
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,840
She made her true love when she
was 20.

892
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,920
And and no one is ever going to
live up to him.

893
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,560
No.
I mean, and I had to.

894
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,880
Speak.
He gave his life for me.

895
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,720
Like, how could I ever love
anybody else?

896
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,880
And I love the that her telling
him that she loved him.

897
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,920
I love that that was the last
thing he heard.

898
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:05,640
Yeah, I love.
Even even when he when when she

899
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,120
said there wasn't enough room,
his face, his face was just

900
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,480
like, I know baby, I'm doing
this because I want you to live

901
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,800
like.
Like he knew when he, I think

902
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,880
when he looked at that box, he
already knew he wasn't going to

903
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,280
come out of this.
Yeah.

904
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:29,320
He was just thinking about her.
And then when, when the fire is

905
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,360
over in the morning and the the
firemen are there and she

906
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,200
starts, you know, yelling, hey,
let me out, let me out, let me

907
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,640
out.
And they let him let her out.

908
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,600
When she gets out, she looks
over because you can see the top

909
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,400
of his head because they've
apparently taken him off the

910
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,440
box, which to me, you're stupid.
You took him off the box, but

911
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,280
you didn't check to see what was
in the box.

912
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,320
Yeah, I.
Don't think they took.

913
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:53,880
I don't think they took.
He sat down.

914
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,440
I think he sat down.
Yeah, I.

915
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,160
Think.
He sat down.

916
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,280
I.
Don't know because I feel like

917
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,520
I, I don't feel like he would
have.

918
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,360
I think he would have stayed up
there and protected her until

919
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,920
the very end.
I don't think he's a gotten up.

920
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,200
He he did the way how he was
positioned.

921
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,040
He sat down.
He just sat down in resignation.

922
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,520
Like, this is it?
I'm just.

923
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,080
This is it, yeah.
Because of like, he was done and

924
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,720
he just was.
Yeah, because if they had test,

925
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,080
if they picked up his body, they
would have taken him out.

926
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,520
They wouldn't have sat him
right?

927
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,720
There, Yeah, not I mean he's
like stiff of how he was sitting

928
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,000
yeah just.
And his eyes were still.

929
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,080
No.
And then she didn't see him.

930
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,680
And then when she turned around
and he was sitting there.

931
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,400
Because I think she went, I
think she was like, where is he?

932
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,640
She was like, I got to find him.
And then like I said, you see

933
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,120
the top of his head.
She goes over, she sees him, and

934
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,360
just at the moment that she gets
ready to sit next to him, here

935
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,680
comes Ronnie.
Ronnie sees him, she starts

936
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,400
crying.
Then here comes Will.

937
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,840
I was done.
Yeah, I was so done at this

938
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:16,040
point because yeah, I, I just.
They knew what they were doing.

939
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,000
That was rough.
It's it's your boy Aladdin wrote

940
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,520
this.
You know that, right?

941
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:25,800
Your boy Aladdin When?
I heard that.

942
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:31,560
I was like, what?
So apparently the guy who did

943
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:37,400
the voice for Aladdin in the
1992 movie 19, that was 92,

944
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,760
right?
The person.

945
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,600
Yeah.
The person who did Aladdin's

946
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,040
voice was the writer of this
episode.

947
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:53,760
A whole new World my.
Yeah.

948
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,000
Thank you, Elaine.
Thank you for this.

949
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,480
Right, right.
Thank you for traumatizing me

950
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,640
for the rest of the year and
probably for next year as well.

951
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,880
Yeah.
But all the while, this carnage

952
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,320
is going on.
You got your races outside.

953
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,200
And of course, at this point,
they've taken their masks off.

954
00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:17,040
Yeah, and they're real men.
And they're just sitting there

955
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,040
and they're just watching.
And the only person who looks

956
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,800
like he might have a little
shred of regret is the one

957
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,720
person who, out of all of them,
should be the most upset.

958
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:35,440
And that's Phil, Susie's dad.
Did you notice that at first he

959
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,240
was, he was.
You could tell he was still

960
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:40,280
like, but then he was just like,
this ain't what I actually want.

961
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,640
This is not what I want.
I just want.

962
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,960
I just wanted the man
responsible for my child.

963
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,680
I didn't want to kill all these
people, yeah.

964
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,680
Because I don't think for him it
was ever about all of this other

965
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,880
stuff.
He just wanted the person he

966
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,360
thought killed his kids.
That's.

967
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,920
It.
Yeah, and you can see that on

968
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,680
his face.
Because he was very like he was,

969
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,520
you know?
Yeah.

970
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,600
But you set stuff in motion and
you can't stop, brother.

971
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,360
I mean, Hank.
Hank knows that now.

972
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,360
Yeah, but I mean, he wasn't even
the one that set it in motion.

973
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,200
This was Bowers.
No, I know, I know, but but so

974
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,080
technically it was angry.
But yeah, it's angry, yeah.

975
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Angry.
He technically had his part

976
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,520
though, because he did come to
the bus with the gun and he did

977
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,920
like probably he, Wally was, you
know, going after the sheriff's

978
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,920
job about it because he was
pissed, you know, and nobody had

979
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,560
arrested him and all that stuff
too.

980
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:45,360
But but I, you know, I hope they
all die a horrible death similar

981
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,400
to somebody else who died right
after.

982
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,600
That was pretty amazing.
Yeah, but this is he deserved

983
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,880
it.
But I also want to say you got

984
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,560
to make sure your car works when
you committed crime and don't

985
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,040
let someone drive off without
you.

986
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,880
Be like, help me start the first
time.

987
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,080
I would be like, I need some
help.

988
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:07,560
We got to get out of here.
I think she sabotaged.

989
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:10,040
She did, but I'm just saying I'm
just making a joke.

990
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,320
You need to make sure your car
work.

991
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,160
When you yeah, make sure it
work.

992
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,280
Because let me tell you when,
when when they get ready to

993
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,560
leave.
And again, like you said, his

994
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,760
car's not starting.
You got one other car that sit

995
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,000
next to you.
That car didn't hear your car

996
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,960
not turning over.
They were like, yeah, you know

997
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,440
what, We going to go ahead and
leave.

998
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:37,120
So of course, this person is Mr.
Kirsch, Mr. Kirsch the butcher

999
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,600
getting butchered.
So while he's sitting there

1000
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:47,920
trying to trying to get his car
fixed, you see Periwinkle or his

1001
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,200
wife walking through the woods
and she turns and she looks at

1002
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,880
him and she was like, Stanley,
what are you doing here?

1003
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,680
What what what was this you got
on?

1004
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,800
She was like, this is my true
self.

1005
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,280
I was like, oh, your ass about
to die.

1006
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,720
You really about to die a true
self.

1007
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,080
He was like what are you talking
about?

1008
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:18,760
This, this is me.
Did he tell her?

1009
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,320
He says 0.
You get that makeup off in the.

1010
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,200
Black and blue is what you're
going to be if you go back to

1011
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,600
the house and take that, take
that shit off.

1012
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,560
And you know, he's being mean.
And I'm like literally

1013
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,760
threatening her.
And then all of a sudden her

1014
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,520
face changes.
I said, oh, Pennywise is behind.

1015
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,840
So she's like hello Papa and
Particle Eyes is behind with a

1016
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,040
big ass axe, right?
I didn't.

1017
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,640
Know that was that was like a
meat.

1018
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,360
Cleaver, yeah.
Cleaver, yeah.

1019
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,600
I mean, it was he.
Stole his meat cleaver to kill

1020
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,920
him with but but.
Where did you get the meat

1021
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,640
cleaver from?
From Did did Sam Stanley have it

1022
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,200
in his car?
That's all I was thinking.

1023
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:05,120
It was probably in his car.
He takes that meat cleaver

1024
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,080
across Stanley's face and
literally splits his face in

1025
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,800
half.
Then he takes the head and he

1026
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,120
starts eating it right in front
of Ingrid.

1027
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,360
Like a popcorn bucket.
Well, it ain't like she ain't

1028
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,600
never seen him eat before, so.
Well, no, because remember, she

1029
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,840
only heard it.
She didn't see him eat Mabel.

1030
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,840
She also opened the door.
She had to see something.

1031
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,680
Might as well like the parks.
But she didn't see him.

1032
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,240
Like actually chewing.
Yeah, that, that's a whole

1033
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,680
different thing.
And bone.

1034
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,520
And.
She's like, I knew you would

1035
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,480
come back.
We just knew.

1036
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,800
I just I just had to set this in
motion.

1037
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,560
I'm sorry, I I couldn't focus
because he's snacking on the

1038
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,720
head.
Like, come on, come on, I'm

1039
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,760
like, Dina said.
You want your daddy to be doing

1040
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,080
that?
Oh.

1041
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,320
And then like he enjoying it,
not like Oh my God, I got to.

1042
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,800
Keep this to feel better.
He was like he was like show me

1043
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,520
the bow.
So he's literally doing the

1044
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,160
stuff that he that that Bob did
with her.

1045
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,200
Show me the bow.
Oh my God, that's my good girl.

1046
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,440
I was like, bitch, if you don't,
run because.

1047
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,320
He probably like, well damn, let
me entertain this, all right,

1048
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,880
show me the bow show.
Me.

1049
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:25,520
The.
Bow.

1050
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,120
The hugs such a.
Good girl.

1051
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:33,680
Yeah, the hug and he 00 And
honey, she went a thin line

1052
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,000
between love and hate when he
said, well, I'm going to sleep

1053
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,440
now.
She was like, and she gripped

1054
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,760
that.
She gripped.

1055
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,200
She gripped him.
He was like, excuse me, what you

1056
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:45,280
doing?
What you doing?

1057
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:47,360
I'm.
Going to sleep.

1058
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,280
And she was.
Like I have left your ass alone.

1059
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,800
I have not eaten you.
I have not done anything to you.

1060
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,880
I pretend to be your Papa.
Don't touch me.

1061
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,200
But she has abandonment issue.
She was like, don't abandon me,

1062
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,000
don't abandon me.
He said the head started

1063
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,480
turning.
I said it's a rap first.

1064
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,680
Of all he was.
He was like, OK, I'm really

1065
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,200
tempted to bite the shit out of
her, but you know, I'm gonna

1066
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,480
hold this together.
I thought he was.

1067
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,120
Going to eat her.
Yeah, 'cause he was like about

1068
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,080
the drool and stuff like, right,
this is good.

1069
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,320
But then.
When she grabs him and he starts

1070
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,600
turning around.
Oh, now you want to notice this

1071
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,440
ain't your daddy.
Yeah, it's not like this is the

1072
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,080
first time you've seen the
glowing eyes.

1073
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:31,520
He literally just showed you the
glowing eyes while he was eating

1074
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,560
your husband's brains.
Well.

1075
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:34,960
You know I'm gonna leave it
alone.

1076
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,640
I had another thought.
What's your thought?

1077
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:43,240
Too early?
Well, maybe he wasn't looking

1078
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,680
like he was about to bite her.
Maybe he was like, this is

1079
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,720
exciting.
She's looking at him like, oh,

1080
01:01:50,720 --> 01:02:00,120
this ain't like, yeah, I think
I'm going to sleep now.

1081
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,680
And she's like, going to sleep.
And now she wants to go, Oh,

1082
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,120
you're not him.
You're not him.

1083
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,600
You're right, 'cause she saw she
saw someone else looking at her

1084
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,920
and.
He's like I'm Pennywise.

1085
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,640
You're daddy.
I'm your dancing daddy.

1086
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:16,840
Not that daddy though.
Not.

1087
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,440
That daddy.
And then she What have you done

1088
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,640
with him?
He was like, oh, I ate him.

1089
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,600
He's still inside, but I've.
Been eating people.

1090
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,880
Like what part of this
relationship did I not tell you

1091
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,880
that I was eat people?
And I tell you I showed it to

1092
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,920
you too.
You've heard it, you saw it, you

1093
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,880
smelled it.
What else is there to do about

1094
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,600
this?
And then how she didn't pick

1095
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,960
piece it together when she sees
her dad as this clown that's

1096
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,040
eating people.
She didn't piece together that

1097
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,560
they brought you a handkerchief
with his blood, saying he got

1098
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,440
mauled by wolves.
I don't think she was thinking

1099
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,720
about that at this point.
I think at this point, her mind

1100
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,720
was probably finally cracking
when when she came to this

1101
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,720
realization, like, oh, you
really are not my dad.

1102
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,400
He was like, oh, no, your dad is
here.

1103
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,520
He's in.
Me and you are 60 something,

1104
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,840
right?
And your daddy's over 100 so.

1105
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,320
You remember we were having the
conversation and I was like, I

1106
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,840
wonder if he, I said something
about maybe there's a part of

1107
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,840
Bob that's still in him.
Because I was thinking about

1108
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,120
like, there's a movie called
Warm Bodies.

1109
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,200
It's a zombie movie.
And basically with that movie,

1110
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,320
what they do, what those zombies
do is when they eat the brains

1111
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:38,120
of their victims, they get the
memories of of that person.

1112
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,240
So that's what I was thinking of
with this, like, OK, if he's

1113
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,400
eating their brains because what
he said something about even

1114
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,680
Phil's brains too, right when he
was mad.

1115
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:53,240
So I was like, maybe if he did
eat Bob's brains, he does know

1116
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,520
about Ingrid and that's why he
was able to kind of connect the

1117
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,080
dots.
And he was like, oh, OK, I might

1118
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,880
can use this.
Not necessarily because of what

1119
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,680
he was saying in Ingrid's mind,
but probably what he saw when he

1120
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,720
ate Bob.
That's what.

1121
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:13,400
I'm sure when we when he ate
Bob, when he the thing, the

1122
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:18,920
thing I think about it is it has
so much psychic ability that

1123
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,960
every person because it kind of
feeds off of that too, that

1124
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:28,200
energy as well that it it takes
all the person's memories

1125
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,840
anyway.
It didn't have to eat you for

1126
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,920
the memories.
It's already been in Dick's

1127
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,520
head.
It knows everything about Dick

1128
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,600
and Eason now and it didn't have
to eat Dick.

1129
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:44,200
So when it it remember, is it
alien like it doesn't really

1130
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,920
understand humanity.
We don't make any sense to it.

1131
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,160
He just knows it.
He knows how to get us, how to

1132
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,760
eat us or lure us in.
That's what it's figured out.

1133
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,400
But when it tells her, Oh yeah,
he's a part, it's lie.

1134
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,440
It's a part of me.
There's a piece of him reaching

1135
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,920
out to you right now because.
That's what she want to hear.

1136
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,240
Because that's what she wants to
hear.

1137
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:13,360
He's been helping him so.
Where people, where people want

1138
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,960
and it can use what people want
to reel their man.

1139
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,160
Yeah.
So he knew that's what it it

1140
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:20,720
knew that's what she wanted to
hear.

1141
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,520
So that's what it was doing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1142
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:23,880
He's here.
Come closer.

1143
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,280
Come closer.
And then when, you know, she got

1144
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,760
all crazy, he's like, well, fake
it.

1145
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,200
Dead lights.
Right.

1146
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,560
I was like OK well she gone now
for real.

1147
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,400
Dead lights.
Dead lights.

1148
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,920
He didn't bite her, didn't
crunch on her dead lights.

1149
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,600
Yeah, that, yeah, that that was
crazy.

1150
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,880
Because we see her the next
morning, they're Wheeling her

1151
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,760
into the ambulance and she's
whole.

1152
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:58,360
She just ain't quite all there
until she passes by the kids and

1153
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,200
her eyes kind of go to them.
I was like the fuck?

1154
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,360
Fantastic.
Oh, they're pulling Marge out

1155
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:19,280
the box now, but Leroy and
Charlotte finally appearing at

1156
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,520
the Black Spot, which is so
weird 'cause I was like,

1157
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,120
Charlotte, weren't you going to
the Black Spot spot yesterday to

1158
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,560
help to, to go do what you
needed to do?

1159
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:33,960
Yeah, why are you overnight?
Like your child has been gone

1160
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,240
all night.
Y'all just not once again.

1161
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,360
And we look, it could have been
Penny Wise, because Penny Wise

1162
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:46,960
was having a smorgasbord and and
here he wasn't thinking about.

1163
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,440
He was like, oh whatever, I'm
over here.

1164
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:56,080
That poor baby.
Yeah, it is weird that they, you

1165
01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:00,400
know, that means that so because
I know she did tell him she was

1166
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,400
helping, helping Hank.
She was going to help him get

1167
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,360
out of.
Town then they must have heard

1168
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:11,480
something about the black spot
that morning that made them come

1169
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,160
out there.
But like, where's your child?

1170
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,680
You don't.
You ain't even questioning where

1171
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,640
your kid was.
Charlotte, probably Charlotte

1172
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,440
probably knew where Will was
because.

1173
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,800
Oh, she dropped them off.
You're right, she did.

1174
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,360
But I'm just saying, like Blake,
but she didn't come back for

1175
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,400
her.
That's what that's.

1176
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,840
That's see that there's some
there.

1177
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,640
There is a lot of parents not
paying attention to their kids

1178
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,160
and potholes at the same time.
But we going to ignore that

1179
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,760
because we going to want to get
to the technical side of things.

1180
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,520
March probably shouldn't be
alive either, but that's neither

1181
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,040
here nor there.
So let's move on.

1182
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,320
Notice these parents look for
the box.

1183
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,920
I see a box, yeah, in the middle
of 5-6 hundred degree

1184
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,920
temperatures, but it.
Was the no, the temperature is

1185
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:05,640
so that was the cooler.
OK, come on.

1186
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,600
Come on.
The the the heat is fine.

1187
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,960
I get that with the refrigerator
box, right.

1188
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:16,640
He can't survive a nuclear bomb.
However he can.

1189
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,080
You never saw Indiana Jones I.
Think.

1190
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,640
However, no, it was wrong that
he survived in it.

1191
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,479
But the refrigerator will
survive.

1192
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:29,319
No, I didn't say a person in it,
but the air like close off in

1193
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:32,479
the box, she literally would
have suffocated and that's.

1194
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,200
What I was thinking.
About OK.

1195
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,680
But it had great filters.
Check it out at Home Depot.

1196
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:41,319
OK so I was binge.
I've been binge watching Station

1197
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:47,800
19 which is a show about
firefighters and those people

1198
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:53,040
lived abnormally long for being
in the middle of a raging fire.

1199
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,000
Fire, right?
They should have been.

1200
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:56,920
They should have died of
smoking.

1201
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,080
Inhalation.
Like immediately almost.

1202
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,840
Large should not be that, but
again, like Michelle said, we're

1203
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,240
not going to talk about the
technicalities of this.

1204
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,000
It's a show.
And that, you know, the other

1205
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,840
kids parents don't know where
they are.

1206
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,319
We're not going to talk about
it, OK?

1207
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,359
Rich's parents is going to be
surprises.

1208
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,439
We thought it was in bed.
I mean, who knew?

1209
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,200
Who knew?
They don't never know, Richard,

1210
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,359
but I feel like.
I want to see Ronnie's

1211
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:25,240
grandmother because with.
The curfew with the curfew.

1212
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,720
Yeah, I at this point, I know I
make fun of her on the couch,

1213
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,640
but she has to be clearly
worried.

1214
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:33,920
You think she did?
You know what?

1215
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:35,920
No one has paid attention to
her.

1216
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:37,680
No one has gone and check on
her.

1217
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,240
You know what, Hank, probably
Charlotte probably called her

1218
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,000
and was like, hey, we got Hank,
he's safe.

1219
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,720
You don't have to worry about
it, you know, because everybody.

1220
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,760
First, want to go outside and
tell everybody.

1221
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,319
Yes, she would be.
I don't think she would.

1222
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,680
She would tell she knows who's.
Looking for her son.

1223
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,160
I don't think she would.
She would tell her close church

1224
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,040
friend.
And then that friend would tell

1225
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,800
another friend over some chicken
salad and some tea.

1226
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,560
I don't know, come on now,
because because here's the

1227
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:10,360
thing, you hollering to
everybody at the beginning, he's

1228
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,720
innocent, he's innocent, he was
here, blah, blah, blah, blah,

1229
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,560
blah, blah blah.
Once you realize they don't care

1230
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,240
because he could have very well
been there with her, they were

1231
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,680
still going to come after him.
I think after that she probably

1232
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:26,320
was like, you know what?
The neighborhood was fine.

1233
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,400
Hold on, she changed her opinion
when she found out he lied.

1234
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,440
Yeah, she did.
She was like, oh, he died,

1235
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,120
right?
Only him and God knows what he

1236
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:39,280
was doing.
Right.

1237
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,120
So I don't.
I wouldn't trust.

1238
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,200
First of all, why?
Why would why can't she tell her

1239
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,480
close friend?
Because they're not going to

1240
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:48,560
tell where he is?
Because.

1241
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,760
She's like all black women.
They all they do as.

1242
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,680
Gossip, but each other.
You're not going to go to the

1243
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,040
police station and tell they're
not going to find Nicole.

1244
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,680
Everyone kept everyone secrets.
I know that, but I'm just

1245
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,880
saying.
So she would tell someone and

1246
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,720
someone and a couple people will
know and no one will say where

1247
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,520
he is because they wouldn't do
that.

1248
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,680
They go to know because we know
what's going to happen.

1249
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,200
Everybody knows what's going to
happen.

1250
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:16,440
Yeah, but I don't.
Guys knew what was going to

1251
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:21,200
happen.
Just because it is, you know,

1252
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,760
plausible deniability, right?
Because she would tell people,

1253
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:28,840
hey, he's safe.
That's all you need to know.

1254
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,640
I wouldn't even tell her that
because she's going to tell

1255
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,840
people.
And that's just we.

1256
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,240
We going to tell people.
Yeah, all Grandmama need to know

1257
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,240
is he escaped the hand.
That something.

1258
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,120
Yeah, but seriously, Dina may be
right.

1259
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,360
We don't even know she alive
because no one has checked on

1260
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,880
her for her groceries.
Nothing.

1261
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,920
Nope.
With attitude, she could have

1262
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,440
been it for all we know.
She's not.

1263
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,400
Should have been.
But I, you know, I know we

1264
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,120
already mentioned it, but I'm
looking at it on the screen

1265
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,720
again.
Yeah.

1266
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,520
This woman dropped her child off
at the black spot.

1267
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,640
It never came back until the
next morning.

1268
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,440
What did she think was going on
at the black spot?

1269
01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:16,200
And.
What was she doing?

1270
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,320
Probably packing for that trip
back to Shreveport.

1271
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,640
She was already packed up,
pretty much.

1272
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,120
This suitcase was done.
She could have drove back.

1273
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,920
Home.
I ain't mean to start us down

1274
01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:29,080
there, but.
But was she talking to that RFKS

1275
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,120
and the MLKS and the KFKS?
Because who?

1276
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,600
I mean, seriously, where the
hell was she?

1277
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,120
Right?
This is a, this guy, even though

1278
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,680
you know he's innocent, he's
still a a, a a wanted man.

1279
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,840
That alone was just dangerous.
But then you left home with a

1280
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,480
bunch of military men with guns.
I guess she felt comfortable

1281
01:12:45,480 --> 01:12:48,440
because she's a military wife.
But I'm sorry, I'm not leaving

1282
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:50,320
my kids.
And what basically amounts to

1283
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:55,040
being the NCO club on base.
Basically the bar.

1284
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:58,640
What are you doing?
He's drinking.

1285
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,200
He's drinking Air Force Coke
all.

1286
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,640
Right.
Freedom.

1287
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,040
Coke.
Right.

1288
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,280
This tastes funny.
But.

1289
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,200
So yeah, it tells it.
It apparently is about to go to

1290
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,840
sleep.
It's it's tired.

1291
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:14,520
It's full.
Tired.

1292
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,840
It's full.
The artery happened.

1293
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:18,600
It's time since night.
Night.

1294
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,360
Night, night.
So then in in this, we need to

1295
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,120
move on to these goddamn
military.

1296
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:26,520
Yeah.
Do we have to though?

1297
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:35,200
Yes, because first of all, the
the Sergeant or whoever who

1298
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:39,800
calls handling over once he and
Charlotte finally get there and

1299
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,440
they're talking to will you call
him over there?

1300
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,240
Do you not realize his son was
in this building?

1301
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:51,840
This is where he needs to be.
Whatever it is that y'all need

1302
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:56,320
him for, that shit can wait.
OK, I'm going.

1303
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,440
We got the show.
We got to move the show along.

1304
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,240
We can't have him going on the
sideline taking care of his kid.

1305
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,160
Can we at least let him can you
tell his dad that his friend

1306
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:07,840
died?
I.

1307
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,120
Mean we don't have time for
that.

1308
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,680
We got 8 episodes.
And then?

1309
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,000
We have time for.
That because he ready to oh,

1310
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,720
we're going to get this mission
done and then we're going to

1311
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,240
leave.
Get that submission.

1312
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,680
It's all about protection to
America.

1313
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:24,840
Well, I think.
At this.

1314
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,680
Point It's all about America.
I was saying, I was saying at

1315
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,480
this point, because what they,
what they call them over is to

1316
01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:35,520
deal with Halloran because of
course Halloran is seeing all

1317
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,520
the dead people now and they're
trying to get, they're trying to

1318
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,200
get handling to, to talk them
down to, to figure out what's

1319
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:48,400
going on.
I think at this point, Helen,

1320
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:53,600
yes, there is still the military
aspect, but I think now he sees

1321
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:59,480
just how serious this thing is.
Cause your son almost died and

1322
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,120
Dick just told you, yeah, that
thing was here.

1323
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:08,520
I think at that point Leroy was
like, OK, you know what, we need

1324
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:13,480
to get this shit, we need to get
this done 'cause my son almost

1325
01:15:13,480 --> 01:15:16,560
died last night.
Like that was the closest that

1326
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,760
Will came to dying.
And I think at this point when

1327
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,960
he was like, yo, we need to help
Dickie so he can he can figure

1328
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,400
this thing out so we can do what
what y'all said we were going to

1329
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,960
do.
We can we can, you know, shrink

1330
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,280
the cage of this thing and be
done with it.

1331
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:41,120
So I think he really at that
point shifted what his priority

1332
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,640
was.
But of course, he needs the

1333
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:48,840
military in order to complete
that part because the military

1334
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,600
is the one who started all of
this.

1335
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,360
Dickie is the one who can locate
this stuff.

1336
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,280
And just like when he's having
that conversation and he's

1337
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,520
telling them he was like, yeah,
so this thing might be asleep.

1338
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,600
I don't feel them anymore.
But if we still need to do what

1339
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,760
we need to do, then we just need
to go follow this chick right

1340
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,360
here.
She'll, she'll lead us to one of

1341
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,560
the one of the the pillars, you
know.

1342
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:19,480
Again, Dick doing too damn much
again, Sir.

1343
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,600
Like, you see what's there
happening?

1344
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,960
You see all this stuff that's
going down?

1345
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:28,360
Stop helping them.
At this point, Dick was like, if

1346
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,960
it's something that's going to
help quell all of this because,

1347
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,000
I don't know, maybe he felt like
once they were able to do what

1348
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,440
they need to do the penny wise,
instead of him trying to focus

1349
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:40,960
on all this stuff.
OK, penny wise is gone, he's

1350
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,320
asleep.
Maybe now I can focus enough to

1351
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,040
put these things back in the
box.

1352
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:51,160
I think I think part of it is,
is unless he helps them do what

1353
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,920
they need to do, they won't ever
let him leave.

1354
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,800
Yeah, that too.
And so I, I got to get him to

1355
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:03,040
get this done, if I can get out
of here, if I can put these this

1356
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,000
stuff back in the box.
Yeah.

1357
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,440
But as long as they're still
looking for the pillar, they're

1358
01:17:08,440 --> 01:17:10,080
not going to let him go
anywhere.

1359
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,000
No.
He's going to be stuck.

1360
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,680
There, Yeah.
And especially now that you done

1361
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,720
told them that all these dead
people are following you around.

1362
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:20,600
Hey, get some information out of
them.

1363
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,160
So I think really it is to the
point where he's just like, OK,

1364
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,000
you know what?
Let me help them do what they

1365
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,120
need to do.
They can, they can put this

1366
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,600
thing away or lock him away, do
whatever.

1367
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,720
I don't have to worry about him
coming after me now.

1368
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,440
I can focus on undoing the
damage he did where I can.

1369
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,320
Just get out of here.
Well, I'm not, I'm saying the

1370
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,640
damage that he did as far as to
Dickie, like you, you open my

1371
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:52,680
box up now, if I don't have to
focus on you, actually, I can.

1372
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,360
I can focus on on putting these
things back in the box and I

1373
01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:00,480
don't have to deal with this no
more, You know, so it's like

1374
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:04,120
both Dick and Leroy were
thinking, OK, you know what?

1375
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,800
Kill two birds with one stone.
Let's go ahead.

1376
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,160
Do this thing.
We'll have one problem.

1377
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:16,000
Solve the Pennywise problem then
I bet you Leroy probably was

1378
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,800
going to retire and go start his
farm.

1379
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,880
Be like, you know what, y'all
got him.

1380
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,240
I'm I'm taking my family.
I'm getting out of here.

1381
01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:25,240
Oh, I wasn't talking about, I
wasn't about Leroy leaving.

1382
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,680
I was talking about Dick.
I'm talking about both of them

1383
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:32,080
leaving.
Yeah, I'm talking about.

1384
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,640
He's been doing.
But I'm talking about Leroy,

1385
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,800
probably at this moment, he's
thinking, OK, let me help them

1386
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,760
finish doing what they need to
do with this.

1387
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,240
And then that way I, when my,
when my family rolls out for

1388
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,480
Shreveport, I can be in the car
with them.

1389
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,080
That's probably what his mindset
is.

1390
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,560
And then, of course, you have
the added complication of Hank

1391
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,920
being out there.
You know, Charlotte is trying to

1392
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,920
figure out, OK, So what are we
going to do with him?

1393
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,080
I'm I'm so sorry.
Charlotte is a good one.

1394
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,800
Because at this point, I would
have been like, you know what,

1395
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,840
Hank, you are on your own.
I'm taking my son.

1396
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,000
I'm getting the fuck.
Out.

1397
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,520
Let's talk about Charlotte real
quick.

1398
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,000
See, like we need to find out
who did this.

1399
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:20,920
Hank Leroy is like, then our
job, why do we have to figure

1400
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,160
out who did this?
Why do you look?

1401
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:24,800
Why do you have to?
Why?

1402
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,480
Why are you the one that has to
go find these shards?

1403
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,680
I mean I I get it.
Well, that's that's, that's

1404
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,400
actually his job.
His job is not to figure out who

1405
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,400
burned down the place.
His job and his father is to

1406
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:40,240
figure out who tried to kill his
son.

1407
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:45,520
No, at this point, their jobs is
to get into that vehicle and got

1408
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,600
to another state.
It's too much.

1409
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,480
It's too many things happening.
It's, it's crazy people.

1410
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:55,920
What did I say in the last
episode?

1411
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,360
AWOL.
Because by the time they get up

1412
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,520
enough whatever to go look for
him, once they get away from

1413
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,560
dairy, they might not even
remember who he is because they

1414
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,240
brought him there for the for
for that whole thing.

1415
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,200
And first of all, he pulled a
knife.

1416
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,200
He pulled a gun on them.
I mean at this point.

1417
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,440
Well, this is afterwards though.
But at this moment, when they're

1418
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:18,640
in the car talking about Hank,
this is when they need to pull

1419
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,320
off and and and get the hell.
Out.

1420
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,320
I agree with him.
We ain't got to figure out who

1421
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,760
did this.
Let's let's worry about what we

1422
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,640
can worry about and get the hell
out of here.

1423
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,680
I.
Think the other thing too is he

1424
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:37,240
probably knows who did this
protect Will.

1425
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,120
All the white, all the white men
in dairy, I'm sorry, all the

1426
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,960
white men in dairy, that's who
did it.

1427
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,200
Who ain't on the base?
So at this point, again, let

1428
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,160
them get in the car and have
them drive to safety.

1429
01:20:50,440 --> 01:20:55,800
You have a bigger honestly, this
is horrible, extremely horrible,

1430
01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:00,720
but there's a bigger fish.
Oh.

1431
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,160
Fish, we're just we just not
forgetting about that part.

1432
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,160
The fish that went to sleep
swimming in the blood.

1433
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:15,080
And y'all still over here again
going home and you know, once

1434
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:23,680
they melted, once they melted
the shark because I'm just

1435
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,280
saying bad parenting get get
that?

1436
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,680
So I can say again, bad
parenting on both parents.

1437
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,880
Yeah, everybody sucks.
Everybody.

1438
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:33,520
Sucks.
We're just going to have, we're

1439
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,840
just going to have a bad panting
panel on all these people.

1440
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:43,760
Oh absolutely, absolutely.
But the news report the next

1441
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:50,880
morning when I say I'm hot.
Hot Venus Venus soapbox.

1442
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:52,640
Here you go.
Fish grease?

1443
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:57,200
Just what?
So now Mr. Kirsch is a hero.

1444
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:01,320
He went to go help the Negroes
who set themselves on fire with

1445
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,720
their horrible Juke joint
because they it was all their

1446
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,720
fault and they it was illegal,
by the way, that Juke joint that

1447
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,200
they had that, you know.
Yeah.

1448
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,280
Oh, my God.
Like, I was just like, just lay

1449
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,440
it on thick, Sir.
Lay it on thick.

1450
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:19,160
Are you kidding me right now?
And oh, and hate Grogan is dead

1451
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,720
and blah blah blah blah blah.
And I'm like, well, they.

1452
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,760
Think hate Grogan is dead
because Charlotte staged it, so

1453
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,120
that's the good thing.
No I know but I just think

1454
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,000
they're also very dumb because I
feel like unless there was still

1455
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,680
some fire going on his like I
guess his clothes maybe caught

1456
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,520
some fire and they looked a
little burnt.

1457
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,120
But if somebody is dead, you see
clothes and no body.

1458
01:22:41,440 --> 01:22:43,800
You just assumed that I guess
you just assume all black people

1459
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,520
look.
They look alike in regular skin

1460
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,320
charge.
Skin don't matter, right?

1461
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,680
She probably told.
She probably told Leroy, since

1462
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,440
you ain't got No Fear, I need
you to take these clothes and go

1463
01:22:54,440 --> 01:22:55,880
put it on one of them dead
bodies.

1464
01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,400
And that's what I'm, that's what
I was wondering.

1465
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,040
Like how did they assume it was
him?

1466
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,000
Because they all black.
Don't you know how black folks

1467
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,040
look alike?
Well, that's what I'm saying.

1468
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:08,600
It's like, I guess could be
charred.

1469
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:15,160
Don't change that, right?
They're probably like, OK, well,

1470
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,200
you know, and and they probably
got statements from somebody

1471
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:23,600
like, yeah, Hank Rogan was here.
But they had a girl who is

1472
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,400
laughing hysterically.
OK, well, they probably asked.

1473
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,520
They they might have asked,
asked the kids like where your

1474
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,160
daddy and Ronnie might have been
like, oh daddy, I don't know,

1475
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,600
you know who?
Knows he did.

1476
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,880
But you know, some of the other,
there were some other survivors.

1477
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,360
The other survivors probably
told the police the truth.

1478
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,800
But of course, the police aren't
going to report that.

1479
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,280
They probably said, oh, yeah,
some, some folks in Mass came in

1480
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,000
here looking for Hank Rogan and
they burnt it down.

1481
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:52,920
It's on.
Fire.

1482
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,360
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that story is not going to

1483
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,640
be reported any no.
But they probably took the one

1484
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,440
thing oh, Hank Rogan was here.
Oh, this is these are his.

1485
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,920
Oh, oh, OK, we'll we'll at least
put that part out.

1486
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,040
They would believe that part
easily enough.

1487
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,200
They don't care how he's dead.
Just the fact that, oh, guess

1488
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:11,920
what?
He's dead.

1489
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,800
We don't have to keep looking
for this fucker.

1490
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,080
And it's it's a lot of cover ups
too, because they said, oh,

1491
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,800
people died helping, helping the
illegal Negro Juke joint.

1492
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,920
And so all the people that got
shot on their end of things, I

1493
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,880
guess they didn't let them have
autopsies and they covered up

1494
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,400
the bodies so the people
wouldn't know that they were

1495
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,280
just out there getting shot in
the woods.

1496
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:38,680
Like, come on, man, it's.
Yeah, because I don't recall

1497
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:43,120
seeing any of the white men who
drove away picking up their dead

1498
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,200
bodies because there were a
couple of of them that got shot.

1499
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,720
So what did y'all just leave
them there?

1500
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,400
Well, we saw the inside, so
while someone was shooting at

1501
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,560
the window, we don't know if the
other ones pulled them out and

1502
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:57,960
threw them in the the.
Trunk.

1503
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,520
Because it wasn't their bodies
outside.

1504
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,560
Found the bodies somewhere.
Somebody had access to the

1505
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,960
bodies because that was their
excuse for why people were dead

1506
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,680
who were white, because they, I
mean, and cursed was the main

1507
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,160
one because of course they had
to make a big deal about cursed

1508
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:15,680
specifically.
Oh yeah.

1509
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,720
But they said it was other
people that came from town

1510
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,120
people.
Found them.

1511
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:21,640
Came.
To help and they died their

1512
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,040
parents while they were helping,
so they definitely killed a few.

1513
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,440
And while they were helping,
they were shooting the people at

1514
01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:27,920
the same time because, you know,
there's well.

1515
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,840
You know, the medical examiner
was probably one of the guys in

1516
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,640
the mail.
I'm just saying I mean.

1517
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,080
Because the sheriff was so why
not, right?

1518
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:37,000
Why not?
Why not?

1519
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:40,160
Medical examiner was probably
like, Oh yeah, we we'll take

1520
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,320
care of this.
Yeah.

1521
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:48,240
So yeah.
So yeah, they take that, they

1522
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:52,600
take the well.
So yeah, they end up having Dick

1523
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,240
show them where the the pillar
is.

1524
01:25:55,320 --> 01:26:01,520
Pillar is.
Oh, in the the Roses Council.

1525
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,520
Oh yeah, we.
Have the little auger is over.

1526
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:10,960
Right we good for 27 years.
I'll see y'all fuckers later.

1527
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:17,160
That one dude he shit asses.
I said Nope he didn't.

1528
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,280
Are you going to even be?
Alive 27 years from now, Sir.

1529
01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:26,840
He's like, I'm good though.
But like, you notice how that

1530
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,360
boy who who had an attitude at
first, who was like, Oh my God,

1531
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:35,160
can he just hurry up now, sees
how messed up it is now that he

1532
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,880
see how many people die, you
know, his whole attitude

1533
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:42,320
changed.
Yep, 2023 people in the fire and

1534
01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:46,920
all together in this cycle 1717
children.

1535
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:48,600
Yeah.
That's a lot.

1536
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:55,480
A lot.
That's a lot, but so according

1537
01:26:55,480 --> 01:27:00,000
to them, the augury is over and
also.

1538
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,640
Hold on, I take issue with
something, Rose said.

1539
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:09,840
We do what we can see.
What did she say we do?

1540
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,640
We do as much as we can for as
many as we can.

1541
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,040
What you doing?
Keeping him trapped.

1542
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,120
Yeah, No, no, no, no, that's
that's not what it feels like.

1543
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,680
She's saying.
Focus on the lives saved.

1544
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:27,120
What lives did you say?
The IT because she what she's

1545
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:31,640
saying is the whole world is it
could have been more, yeah.

1546
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:32,760
No, no, no, it's the.
Same.

1547
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,400
OK, so you it could have been
more you sound like people

1548
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,960
online talking about oh, they
should have told people they

1549
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,720
should have did this them
Indians should they did them

1550
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,240
naters should have did.
Well the the lives they saved

1551
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:47,560
was 2 lives they saved they kids
lives.

1552
01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:51,080
I didn't see what was online.
I'm not.

1553
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,680
Saying but it's true though,
because they didn't help save

1554
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:59,000
the lives of the kids in dairy,
but they helped save the world.

1555
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,000
But they know that he got to
have a certain amount of food

1556
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,560
before he go back.
You see that ain't right.

1557
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,040
Either.
That ain't right.

1558
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:08,920
Well, it ain't right.
It's not, but the world versus 1

1559
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,240
little.
Type and but they kids are safe

1560
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:12,760
all the time like.
It is.

1561
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,640
They're safe.
They tried to tell the

1562
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,520
colonizers it's the colonizers
fault, right?

1563
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:19,200
But.
I mean.

1564
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,280
This is something that we have
discussed before our other

1565
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,120
shows.
Think about The Last of Us and

1566
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:29,000
Joel's decision.
You saved the one person when

1567
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,480
you could have saved almost all
of humanity.

1568
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:33,960
You made your try.
OK, you know what?

1569
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,560
I'm going to make the decision
to save this.

1570
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,160
This is the same thing they're
doing.

1571
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:43,280
They're like, look, we can't
save everybody, but at least the

1572
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,880
majority of the town is OK
because if they didn't have

1573
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,000
those pillars there dairy would
just be a playground for him,

1574
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,160
period.
Speaking of the pillars.

1575
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,520
Or just anywhere would be a
playground, not even just dairy

1576
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:54,920
because he would be able to go
we.

1577
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,520
Would be able to go anywhere.
So like I said, the last episode

1578
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,000
it it calls itself the Eater of
Worlds.

1579
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,040
Eater of Worlds.
Exactly, Exactly, Sir.

1580
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,840
See your own words coming back
to bite you in the butt.

1581
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:12,640
Because if they wasn't, if so,
if the colonizers hadn't decided

1582
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,800
to build a whole town where they
told them not to go, there

1583
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,160
wouldn't be a dairy for him to
eat.

1584
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,840
And he might have just would
have died eventually because he

1585
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,440
would have just been surviving
off of random people who just

1586
01:29:22,440 --> 01:29:24,720
walked in the woods every now
and again, right?

1587
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,400
So they did the best they could
with what they had.

1588
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaking of the pillars, Dick
LED them to one of the pillars

1589
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:38,120
and he dig it up and he was
inside the turtle shell.

1590
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:44,720
He was in the turtle shells.
But the crazy thing was.

1591
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,800
So they get the pillar, they put
it on the truck.

1592
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,960
Leroy is about to get on the
truck and they tell him stand

1593
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:52,160
down.
Oh no, you ain't going with

1594
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:55,400
this.
He was like, but we got to take

1595
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,360
this back to base so we can do
such, such.

1596
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,120
He was like, no, we, we got
this.

1597
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:02,680
I was like, oh, they've been to
do something they're not

1598
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:04,840
supposed to do.
Yeah, they were supposed to move

1599
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:10,120
in closer to town and he's like,
Oh no, we taking it back to the

1600
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:13,280
base.
We're going to see if there are

1601
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:17,600
any properties that will help us
to, I said.

1602
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:22,440
If that ain't a bunch of
bullshit bullshit.

1603
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:30,280
And I think at this point Leroy
figured out that made right with

1604
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:34,080
this right, Because we see as
soon as they get it to the base,

1605
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,560
they have an incinerator and
they're about to put it in the

1606
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,800
incinerator.
Now I'm sitting here like my

1607
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,760
mind went to the obvious place,
but I was like, they can't be

1608
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,480
about to destroy it.
They must be testing its

1609
01:30:47,480 --> 01:30:49,680
properties to see how in
destruct.

1610
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,520
This is what I'm thinking.
I'm like, oh, they want to see

1611
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,080
how indestructible this is
because, you know, it did come

1612
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,640
from outer space.
It didn't disintegrate when it

1613
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,440
hit the Earth.
Maybe they just want to see how

1614
01:31:00,440 --> 01:31:02,760
strong it is.
When Leroy came in with that

1615
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,480
gun, I said, oh, they really
were about to do the stupid

1616
01:31:05,480 --> 01:31:09,200
thing.
I was like, because now you've

1617
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:13,080
taken it from where it was.
So you basically, you took one

1618
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,280
of the bars out of the prison
enough for him to squeeze

1619
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,280
through.
And we see that because as soon

1620
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:23,640
as I pulled off with it, you see
the camera goes into the sewer,

1621
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:28,080
Pennywise asleep, and all of a
sudden his eyes are up and he's

1622
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,200
just looking out like, wait,
something's different.

1623
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,440
Something different, something
different.

1624
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:39,240
That is the most stupidest thing
you could ever do.

1625
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,360
Like literally you should just
took it.

1626
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,000
Even if you took it out of state
which he could have done the

1627
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,920
same thing.
You can keep it for when you

1628
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,880
need to cage him.
You don't destroy it.

1629
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:55,920
That's why I'm done.
Yeah, but you remember what the

1630
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,080
general said They wanted to make
sure he got out.

1631
01:31:59,480 --> 01:32:02,240
Right, Yeah, but then there's
going to be a point in years

1632
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,080
then maybe we got to put it
back.

1633
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:08,960
So let's just keep let's keep it
hold of it somewhere about what

1634
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:11,240
the let's talk about what the
general said.

1635
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:15,400
Because when I say this fucker
pissed me.

1636
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:16,960
Off.
Yeah.

1637
01:32:18,440 --> 01:32:26,760
Because his whole excuse for all
of this is 0 this is how we're

1638
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,720
going to end war.
We're going to make everybody

1639
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,520
scared.
And once everybody is scared,

1640
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,760
they're going to fall into place
and they're going to do with

1641
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:40,360
what they're supposed to do.
Once, once we, I guess, weed out

1642
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,160
people like, oh, we're just
going to we don't let the

1643
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,680
creature go in and do what he
does and scare enough people so

1644
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:51,400
that, excuse me, do do you know
what you're talking about doing?

1645
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,360
Yeah.
You are literally about to use

1646
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:59,400
this as a weapon to control the
entire world for so-called

1647
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,920
peace.
You don't get the fuck out of

1648
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:04,080
here.
Yeah.

1649
01:33:06,440 --> 01:33:13,080
This man pissed me off because
and you're saying this while

1650
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,880
Leroy has a gun to you?
No.

1651
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,520
And then he says the example.
He said yeah, after what

1652
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,560
happened last night.
Look, today there's peace in the

1653
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,840
streets.
There's lies in the streets.

1654
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:30,320
Lying ain't no peace.
They're no peace people lying.

1655
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,360
They're lying about what
happened.

1656
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:34,880
There's the peace in the
streets.

1657
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:39,600
That's the peace.
And the peace is the black folks

1658
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:44,160
are too scared to say anything
because they just saw y'all are

1659
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:49,840
willing to kill.
And the white folks like what we

1660
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,320
got to do.
We we we got our justice.

1661
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,560
We did what we wanted to do.
So why would?

1662
01:33:56,560 --> 01:34:02,320
There be any?
Lord let me tell you, that man

1663
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,600
pissed me off so bad.
So now let me get to the pants

1664
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:09,680
now.
So once they melted the shards,

1665
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:14,600
OK, the Shard, whatever.
This is when you call your wife

1666
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:18,200
and say get in the get in the
Oldsmobile.

1667
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,640
Because.
Because y'all are in the house.

1668
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,240
In Dare.
Oh, wait, right.

1669
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:27,240
Like way back.
To the house in Dare to put Hank

1670
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,480
there because you're like, oh,
ain't nobody going to look for

1671
01:34:29,480 --> 01:34:34,760
him there.
Your Mama is still like no one

1672
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:39,240
paying attention to him anyway,
so you could have put in the

1673
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,360
trunk and get out of there.
You didn't call your wife to say

1674
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,200
this is what happened.
Our son could be in danger.

1675
01:34:45,440 --> 01:34:46,760
Nothing.
And guess what?

1676
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:51,000
He was the first one on the on
his list because the.

1677
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:56,120
First one with Hank and told
we'll stay in the house.

1678
01:34:56,600 --> 01:35:02,800
The you you left him in the
house in Derry just because.

1679
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,360
OK.
Yeah, that thing is asleep.

1680
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,640
Don't you wake up when you go to
sleep?

1681
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:13,360
Just on principle alone, My
child would have been with me.

1682
01:35:15,480 --> 01:35:21,760
Oh, I was like.
But I, I just, I'm sorry, sad.

1683
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,360
No, I just thought it was funny
when Will answered the phone.

1684
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:26,240
He was all big and bad.
He.

1685
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:28,720
Will.
He was.

1686
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,080
I'm not scared.
I'm scared of you not.

1687
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:32,520
Scared.
Oh, really?

1688
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:36,120
That camera work was great,
though, because it was right

1689
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,360
here.
You were so angry in his face

1690
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:43,640
and his emotion, and then it was
like, yeah.

1691
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,920
Like oh shit I'm sorry I am
scared of you.

1692
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,200
My bad, I thought you was on the
phone on the other end.

1693
01:35:49,480 --> 01:35:53,600
But I guess we was kind of lucky
because he got the dead lights.

1694
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:58,680
He didn't get crunch crunch so.
But you know what the most

1695
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:03,320
horrifying thing about this?
Also second part of this episode

1696
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:07,160
is that Will was in a fire and
then he dies in a fire.

1697
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:12,240
Yeah, I thought about that.
You survive a fire to then die

1698
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,480
later of a fire.
Well, he finally got him.

1699
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,840
He finally got him.
But yeah, no pinnable guy is now

1700
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,120
walking around with, like he was
in the blood, a literal

1701
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:29,360
bloodbath.
But he's walking around and that

1702
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,560
this body is coming in blood.
Right.

1703
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:37,600
He he jumped out, he didn't even
take take a chance to to get

1704
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:39,160
himself together.
Yeah.

1705
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:43,040
Clean himself out.
And then poor Lily.

1706
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,000
Like Lily has no idea none of
this is going on.

1707
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:49,360
Like she hears the the reports
on the news but she doesn't even

1708
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:54,360
know about the black spot.
So nothing has her thinking that

1709
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,800
she should be worried for her
friends or whatever.

1710
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:00,040
Here she is sitting on her bed.
She's still holding the precious

1711
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:05,480
and Marge and Ronnie come in to
tell her that Rich is dead.

1712
01:37:05,480 --> 01:37:10,160
And I just, I felt so bad for
her because, you know, she's

1713
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,080
going to feel guilt about that
too.

1714
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:16,920
Like, oh, Rich is another person
that I kind of delivered to him,

1715
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:26,400
you know, But man, that this
whole thing is just like

1716
01:37:27,480 --> 01:37:31,320
Pennywise coming back, waking up
because now he realized, oh, I

1717
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,720
don't have, I don't have to do
this cycle anymore.

1718
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,520
I can just kind of roam how I
want to.

1719
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,320
And it's like.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm not, I'm not

1720
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:43,400
ready for my sleep yet.
I think I can like get another

1721
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,320
like.
Like, oh, I'm hungry again.

1722
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:47,640
Yeah, I didn't get another meal
in.

1723
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,240
See, I think, I think one of the
properties of the cage, it may

1724
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:56,440
have been suppressing him and
that's probably why he was

1725
01:37:56,440 --> 01:37:58,320
getting tired and having to go
to sleep.

1726
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:02,280
Like it's actively suppressing
him, but now it's gone.

1727
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:07,560
But but listen now you but I
don't even think that I'm like

1728
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,840
literally he hibernates.
But if you about to take a nap

1729
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:14,920
and then someone offers you like
you about to take a nap and

1730
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:19,120
someone offers you Anthony, we
got tickets five last minute.

1731
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:20,400
We know it's 10 minutes before
the game.

1732
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,240
Do you want to go to the Georgia
Alabama game and Georgia will

1733
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,320
win at the end.
What you going to do?

1734
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:29,880
I'm OK, I'm going to go back to
sleep or you'll get your ass up

1735
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:33,240
and say, hey, I can rest after
I'm done.

1736
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,200
Well.
He's.

1737
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,200
Not going to answer that.
OK, He really thought I was.

1738
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:41,480
I thought that.
Was a rhetorical question.

1739
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:42,560
Because, you know, you'll get
up.

1740
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:50,600
So yeah, he was like, oh,
something is different.

1741
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:55,400
I feel like a snack, right?
Like I'm gonna get one little

1742
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,200
blast dessert in here before I
go to sleep.

1743
01:38:58,200 --> 01:38:59,960
Because this is going to be good
right here.

1744
01:38:59,960 --> 01:39:04,800
It's going to be real good.
And he just has to come back.

1745
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:09,280
He comes after Will because one
Will is by himself because all

1746
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:14,080
the girls are together now.
You know, they go to tell Lily

1747
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:17,560
and then they go to the tower to
clear riches.

1748
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:26,520
When I say they got me with this
episode.

1749
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:31,920
And then when she sees his
little his little airplane and

1750
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:34,520
she's like, he never did get it
down the Main Street.

1751
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,360
I was like, you know what, I'm
cutting this shit off.

1752
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:45,000
I can't.
I just, I just, they got me with

1753
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:46,880
this episode.
Yeah.

1754
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,440
Oh, goodness.
And all I have to say is I like

1755
01:39:51,440 --> 01:39:55,800
people's comments of the Losers
Club.

1756
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:59,480
Got it easy.
They got it easy.

1757
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:02,960
You're pink Film.
Yeah, he was just older.

1758
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:06,960
Yeah, You know, you know, you
have your Goodyear, you got your

1759
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,720
good years and your bad years.
That was kind of like a bad year

1760
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,360
for him.
Like he wasn't, he wasn't on top

1761
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,040
of his game like he is right
now.

1762
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,880
Look, that's the second cycle
twice that he has been

1763
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,920
challenged by these kids.
He was probably like, you know

1764
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:22,320
what, fuck these kids.
But he didn't he energy, we

1765
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:26,080
didn't he he's like the first
time round they got off like

1766
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:31,720
extremely easy.
Yeah, they did.

1767
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:34,960
You talk about the Losers Club
with these kids.

1768
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:39,520
The Losers Club.
I think he was just taking his

1769
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:43,120
time for them.
He he was old.

1770
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:47,440
He's already he's millions of
years old, but what what what is

1771
01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:51,600
what is 30 years to to it?
It's not, but this is towards

1772
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,000
the time where you.
Like.

1773
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:59,000
This this year he was entering
his senior citizen phase, right?

1774
01:40:59,480 --> 01:41:03,200
The arthritis is getting in.
It's a million years old.

1775
01:41:03,440 --> 01:41:06,160
That's right.
He, he is very creative, right?

1776
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,160
But he is very creative.
Well, he's learned a few things

1777
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:11,520
thanks to these kids.
No, no, no these.

1778
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,080
Kids made it worse for the
losers.

1779
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,680
No, they didn't.
It is worse now.

1780
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,280
That's what we're saying.
It's worse for these kids and

1781
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:20,320
adults than it is for the Losers
Club.

1782
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:23,920
They had it easy.
OK.

1783
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:31,240
This it now is psychopath OK for
them, they do well Hanukkah they

1784
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:37,040
he did the crazy run and say you
know, you know, hey, you're

1785
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,440
scared.
OK, I'm good here.

1786
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:44,360
Yeah.
He calls it main event and

1787
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:47,240
stuff.
Well, I thought you I think one

1788
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:49,560
of y'all was saying.
This demon baby coming out of

1789
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,640
the body and.
The I'll say this, the

1790
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,240
difference with the Losers Club
is that they're all kind of

1791
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,480
strong and they were strong
enough to get away.

1792
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:00,800
I don't these kids is weak right
here.

1793
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:06,200
Look at poor Lily.
I don't I don't I don't know.

1794
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:07,960
I think rich, Rich.
Is probably not a license.

1795
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:10,040
I think I don't.
You know what I mean.

1796
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:14,120
I don't because I think rich.
It was more like the losers of

1797
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,000
the club.
Kids, probably.

1798
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:20,760
Switch it I say the loser club
kids were easy that's why he

1799
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:23,360
ain't had to do much.
Like it wasn't even worth but I

1800
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,960
can literally just say a zombie
that has bed bugs.

1801
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,880
Yeah, but they scare you.
But they got out of dairy.

1802
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:35,800
Yeah.
Well, they, they, and you know

1803
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:37,080
what?
He should have had the same

1804
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:38,360
energy.
Like we'd be talking about

1805
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:39,440
energy.
He should have had the same

1806
01:42:39,440 --> 01:42:43,120
energy now that he should have
had with the Losers Club that

1807
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:44,200
he.
Wouldn't have that issue.

1808
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:49,280
Kids in this, I think the kids
in this year, it's not that they

1809
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,120
were easy or that they were
weak.

1810
01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:58,920
They didn't have at this point,
those kids didn't have the

1811
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:03,000
trauma they didn't have.
They didn't have a reason to be

1812
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,320
strong.
They they were able to just be

1813
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:07,440
kids.
You know what I'm saying?

1814
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:12,000
When, when you get older, when,
when we get older into the 80s,

1815
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:16,480
these kids are seeing a little
bit more, they're experienced a

1816
01:43:16,480 --> 01:43:18,520
little bit more.
Their parents are the ones who

1817
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:21,520
went through Vietnam.
They've they've at this point

1818
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,680
really come out on the other
side of the civil rights

1819
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,280
movement.
You have there in the 80s, you

1820
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:31,080
have the AIDS epidemic.
You have all of this stuff that

1821
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:35,840
these kids are having to look at
and learn about, and I think

1822
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:39,240
that probably just made them a
little more resilient than these

1823
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:42,440
kids in 62 are.
And that's the opposite.

1824
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,880
I think these kids are more
resilient because they do have

1825
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:50,920
not the same, but they still
have the generational trauma,

1826
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,240
but they just had to deal with
it.

1827
01:43:53,480 --> 01:43:55,600
Even though the kids and the
aids have to deal with it.

1828
01:43:55,800 --> 01:44:00,440
But he had to, he really like
mess with their minds now.

1829
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:03,640
Then he really didn't.
He took the most simplest fear

1830
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:05,880
that they had, and they were
goners.

1831
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:09,760
Hey, this sounds like a good
panel that we could have.

1832
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:14,720
Maybe like he and the thing
about it, like here, he's he's

1833
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:18,360
hitting everyone, he's hitting
adults, he's hitting kids all at

1834
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:22,320
the same time and causing a
major event with the losers

1835
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:27,040
club.
He was like just the kids and

1836
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:29,960
and maybe, and that's probably
that was his downfall.

1837
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,440
He underestimated them.
He was like, I just really, I

1838
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:36,400
have to show they have some
blood coming out of the sink and

1839
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,960
we good.
You see what I'm saying?

1840
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,560
We good with her.
That was one, we not one that

1841
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,560
one just torture him with his
brother's cries because I killed

1842
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,640
his brother because he wasn't
there to play.

1843
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:51,800
He wasn't there to play these
friends.

1844
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:55,760
He's getting ghosts.
You see what I'm saying?

1845
01:44:55,960 --> 01:45:00,720
He's doing a lot more.
He's literally he grabbed

1846
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,320
somebody fishing.
All I was doing was fly fishing.

1847
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:08,840
Think about it.
Yeah.

1848
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:15,800
Then he got one woman saying
Daddy, Daddy, Papa, feed me some

1849
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,280
children.
I mean, he got a lot.

1850
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,280
He got a lot going on, and he
has a lot.

1851
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:24,360
The Losers Club.
He's like, hey.

1852
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:29,400
Yeah, but now, I mean, he's
woken up.

1853
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:34,360
So at this point, what is he
going to do?

1854
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,400
Are you about to do something
bigger than the Augury?

1855
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:41,640
Like, are you about to create a
bigger bloodbath again?

1856
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:46,280
We know we'll survive.
So we know he's not going to

1857
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,640
die.
He he got the whole dead lights

1858
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:50,000
thing.
And of course, I, I think at

1859
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,320
this point, the friends are
probably going to go rescue him

1860
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:58,000
because right now it's just the
girls because Rich is gone.

1861
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:03,640
And if anything, now Ronnie
really has a OK, so this is what

1862
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,600
happened when all of us didn't
stick together.

1863
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:08,800
You see what happened?
And now Rich is gone.

1864
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:12,360
Now Will is gone.
I think if anything, this is

1865
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,960
going to motivate Ronnie to be
like, OK, you know what?

1866
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:17,040
We need to put that fucker back
in his box.

1867
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:20,440
We need to kill him.
Hey, Lily, you still got that,

1868
01:46:20,440 --> 01:46:23,080
That precious.
Oh, OK, let's do this.

1869
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:27,280
Because I think at this point
now, they've all lost too much.

1870
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:31,600
And then you lost the heart of
the group.

1871
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,800
Rich definitely was the heart of
the group.

1872
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,600
He was the one that made the
most sense.

1873
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,880
He was the one that basically
was telling them, yo, can we

1874
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,880
stop fighting?
This is what this thing wants.

1875
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,960
He wants to split us up.
He wants to pull us apart.

1876
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,680
And you see exactly what
happened when he pulled them

1877
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:55,240
apart.
See y'all should have just got

1878
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,960
the Shard, went into the sewers,
killed his ass.

1879
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:04,560
The black spot would have been
fine but Ronnie was so intent on

1880
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:07,120
protecting her father.
Not everybody dead.

1881
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:12,160
Correct.
Not blame on her, but.

1882
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:13,640
No, no, it was the daddy's
fault.

1883
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:14,720
He should have stayed in the
bank.

1884
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:20,560
Must be completely honest.
Yeah, because he put them in a

1885
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:23,200
terrible situation.
You didn't just put the other

1886
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,000
people in in danger, you put
your child in danger.

1887
01:47:27,480 --> 01:47:32,160
Oh, you know what we've forgot
to to say to He was in a

1888
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:33,240
bloodbath.
I did.

1889
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:35,280
You did.
No, no, no, no.

1890
01:47:35,480 --> 01:47:39,160
He was in a bloodbath full of
because right there, intestines,

1891
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:41,520
arm parts.
He's in the bodies.

1892
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:45,440
He's always, he's always.
I know, I'm just saying I would

1893
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:49,720
prefer just a bloodbath.
We just didn't emphasize all the

1894
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:51,120
that was.
A brown.

1895
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:54,960
He's always in in the midst of
body parts.

1896
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:57,960
So it's like, Oh my.
God and other things, yeah,

1897
01:47:59,960 --> 01:48:02,680
yeah.
So now is.

1898
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:05,720
It me or in this?
This last scene must have been

1899
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,840
filmed later because Will looks
kind of taller.

1900
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:13,120
It is.
He looks, he looks much older at

1901
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,920
this scene.
Could be or or it could be the

1902
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:19,520
the the way the Cam camera is
because again you got penny wise

1903
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:23,400
up on the fridge.
Maybe the angle of the camera is

1904
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:25,800
different or something.
He looks.

1905
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,920
Bigger.
No they say it and this could be

1906
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,360
false.
I read something that there is a

1907
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,400
gap from when they had to take a
break so the kids do look

1908
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:34,600
bigger.
Oh OK.

1909
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:37,480
And they got taller.
Yeah, he looks.

1910
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:41,520
He looks taller.
It's because I'm.

1911
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,560
I'm around these munchkins all
the time.

1912
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:47,120
I I I know this.
When these changes happen, yeah.

1913
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:51,960
But here's my thing, Penny wise
you in this bloodbath with all

1914
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:54,720
these body parts and stuff, how
is your wig still laid?

1915
01:48:57,040 --> 01:49:02,880
He knew better from Bob because
Bob hair was all over the place.

1916
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:10,120
Right, but OK.
Yeah, it was delayed in 2023.

1917
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,960
Oh, OK.
Oh, right is right of strike.

1918
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:17,480
That's what it said.
It said Why do kids look older

1919
01:49:17,480 --> 01:49:22,200
in episode 5 was because of the
delay in 2023.

1920
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:24,320
OK.
And that probably that was the

1921
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:26,480
right of strike then wasn't.
It Yep, it was.

1922
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:31,440
OK, OK, so I think the only.
People, that was in last.

1923
01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:34,640
Week that happened in this
episode was of course, like we

1924
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:38,320
said, Charlotte there in the
house in Derry.

1925
01:49:38,440 --> 01:49:41,800
She takes Hank because she's
still trying to get him over the

1926
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,280
border.
She goes to see Rose.

1927
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:51,280
Now, I don't know.
I think I'm I'm at the point

1928
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:57,120
where I understand Charlotte has
good intentions and I

1929
01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:04,640
understand, you know, that this
man is innocent, but everybody

1930
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:09,680
that you have put in this man's
vicinity to help him has ended

1931
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:16,120
up dead at this point.
You don't need to bring nobody

1932
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:20,760
else into this.
Now, granted, Rose is more

1933
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,880
prepared than other people, but
I don't think Charlotte knows

1934
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,960
that.
I don't think Charlotte, like I

1935
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:32,400
know Rose gave her kind of like
a veiled warning about what was

1936
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:39,680
going on in Derry.
But still, at this point, Hank

1937
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:42,880
Grogan needs to be the least of
your concerns.

1938
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:47,920
Find somebody else to help him
and, and, and let that go.

1939
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:51,720
You need to get your son out of
town, or at the very least, you

1940
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:53,760
need to get him the hell out
that house.

1941
01:50:54,480 --> 01:50:57,240
You should have taken them with
you If you want to sit here and

1942
01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:01,280
pass off Hank in your in your
husband's clothes as your

1943
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:05,760
husband take the sign with you.
It's not like you're going to be

1944
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,400
saying anything to Rose that
will can't hear.

1945
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,800
We'll just live through a whole
fire bombing.

1946
01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:13,320
He he just watched his friend
die.

1947
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:18,520
He just saying ghost of the
other dead kids.

1948
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:22,800
He doesn't seem bodies of the
other dead kids, Ken and almost

1949
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,520
got shot by his own daddy, seen
his daddy shoot his best.

1950
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:28,840
Believe me, Will can handle
whatever you got to tell Rose

1951
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,760
about getting Hank Grogan across
the Canadian border.

1952
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:39,440
And then in the midst of all of
this, Tango is spying.

1953
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:42,280
He sees that they've dug up the
shark.

1954
01:51:42,480 --> 01:51:44,600
He comes running into Rose's
house.

1955
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:49,400
Until we got a problem.
I think a problem is an

1956
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:52,400
understatement.
And.

1957
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:55,840
Unfortunately, Charlotte is
about to find that out.

1958
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:59,160
But here's the other thing.
Will is at the house by himself.

1959
01:51:59,480 --> 01:52:01,960
He opens the refrigerator door
to grab sodas.

1960
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,840
Why y'all have to have that jar
of eggs sitting over there

1961
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:10,560
looking like the jar of Pickles?
Did y'all really have to do

1962
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,040
that?
Because at this point I was

1963
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,600
expecting something else I
wasn't expecting.

1964
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:19,160
Oh no, excuse me, There is a jar
of baby dill Pickles right next

1965
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:24,640
to the jar of eggs.
Yeah, I thought one of the ace

1966
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:28,040
was going to roll over and be AI
or something, right?

1967
01:52:28,440 --> 01:52:30,000
That's awesome.
Right.

1968
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:35,000
But when that telephone starts
ringing, Will goes to answer it

1969
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:39,040
and it sounds like Ronnie.
Now, the thing that made me

1970
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:44,440
suspicious was when he picked up
the phone and she said, hey,

1971
01:52:44,440 --> 01:52:47,400
Will, it's Ron.
I don't think I've ever heard

1972
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:51,160
her refer to herself as Ron in
any of these seven episodes.

1973
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:55,440
And neither his he and he just
goes with it.

1974
01:52:55,440 --> 01:52:57,560
Ron, I'm sorry, my mom won't let
me out.

1975
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,120
I said something ain't right
about this.

1976
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,000
When did she ever call herself
Ron?

1977
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:15,280
It's Veronica or Ronnie.
And the fact that he knew what

1978
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:18,600
they were doing because he's
telling her, hey, it's OK.

1979
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:22,600
We went over to the standpipe to
to clear Rich's stuff.

1980
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:26,080
How do?
How do you how do you know this?

1981
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:28,440
It's in everybody's head.
I know.

1982
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:34,040
I think, and I think that I
think if you think about it, I

1983
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,920
think that's when Dick says he
could always feel it.

1984
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:42,840
I wonder if that's what it is.
Is it everybody's head?

1985
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:48,000
And it's just that Dick is
sensitive to it so he can feel

1986
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:49,760
it in his head.
Yeah.

1987
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:53,040
It's like Michelle was saying,
it's got just feelers out

1988
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:55,960
everywhere.
He's extremely strong.

1989
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:59,160
This guy just feelers out and so
he knows what everyone's doing.

1990
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:04,760
Right, right.
But when he starts, when he

1991
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:07,960
starts telling Will, he was
like, you know, I as Ronnie,

1992
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:09,880
he's like, I can't believe he's
gone.

1993
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,040
I can't believe he died like
that.

1994
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:15,400
You know, I can't.
You know how he must have

1995
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:18,480
suffocated, his lungs bursting
like popcorn.

1996
01:54:18,480 --> 01:54:29,120
I was like even Will is looking
like the fuck and then you hear

1997
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:34,320
Penny Wise's voice talking about
Oh yeah it was making my mouth

1998
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:37,320
water smelling his stinky little
body and black.

1999
01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:41,480
I was like Will.
I was like, why are you still on

2000
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:43,200
the phone?
Why are you still on the?

2001
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,240
Phone, right?
But again, like you said, he

2002
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:48,320
probably thought, oh, he's
somewhere else.

2003
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:52,760
But dude, you are back in Derry.
You are back in Derry.

2004
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:59,800
You are in his Playhouse.
But he, you know, I don't know,

2005
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:02,720
maybe he didn't think the threat
was that big because again,

2006
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:08,560
according to your dad, according
to Dick Halloran, any wise

2007
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:12,080
asleep?
Supposed to be it would be.

2008
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:13,000
It would be right.
Yeah.

2009
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:19,480
Maybe Will was just like, OK,
it's just in my head now.

2010
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:21,560
Maybe this ain't even real.
He's.

2011
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:24,560
A kid, I, I don't think he was
making any.

2012
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,240
I don't think he was thinking
anything about that thought.

2013
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:29,840
He just reacted to what was
happening.

2014
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:39,800
I'm not scared of you, OK?
Yeah, and then he turned around,

2015
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:42,640
'cause he's like, I'm not scared
of you, I'm done being scared,

2016
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:45,120
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Oh, I can't hear you.

2017
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:50,080
He turned around like hold up,
Dick came from behind me and

2018
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:53,000
there's pen wise.
Dead lights.

2019
01:55:53,600 --> 01:56:00,440
Dead lights.
I was like, you know, it's going

2020
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:02,200
to be up to the girls to save
them now.

2021
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:10,000
The girls are going to have to
be the heroes, but oh, this this

2022
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:14,640
episode I I've been seeing a lot
of people talking about this was

2023
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:18,840
the best episode of the series
so far and I do agree.

2024
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:24,360
I think I I wouldn't say it was
the best.

2025
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:28,640
It was the toughest, definitely.
So far.

2026
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:30,960
I don't know.
I wait.

2027
01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:33,680
Wait until I say Episode 8 then
I'll make a decision.

2028
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:41,480
This was definitely the hardest.
Yeah, it was a lot though, too.

2029
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:45,160
It was a lot.
They put a lot in this episode,

2030
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:51,240
and you don't think it is a lot,
but it was a lot to take in the

2031
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:54,480
Bob situation because then you'd
be like, well, how you feel bad?

2032
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:57,800
Like Bob lost his wife, He got
his daughter then then you took

2033
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:02,640
the father from the daughter.
I mean, yeah, he was drinking.

2034
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:05,800
He wasn't going to help a kid,
but he liked to entertain the

2035
01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:07,880
children.
He just needed to take a break

2036
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:09,920
during his break time.
And I think everyone deserves a

2037
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:14,520
break into some wine.
But then however you had that,

2038
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:18,600
then the black spot, and that's
a whole situation they reach.

2039
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:22,120
That's a whole situation.
Then they get the Shard melts it

2040
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:23,800
and you know what's about to
happen.

2041
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:25,280
That's a whole different
situation.

2042
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:26,880
And then you got to win with the
deadline.

2043
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,600
That's a whole nother situation
all in one episode.

2044
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:37,280
It was alive, but that.
General, you know, I really want

2045
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:42,000
Rose to come and whoop his ass
and I hope we have a

2046
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,000
confrontation.
She's going to be like I told

2047
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:46,960
you.
I told you what would happen if

2048
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:51,160
you went and messed with this
thing because, you know, she

2049
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:53,840
going, she probably heard the
news reports.

2050
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,280
It was like, Yep, I know what
happened.

2051
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,240
I mean, they talked about it at
the augury.

2052
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:06,240
I mean, at the meeting when they
discussed our Oh yeah, 23 dead.

2053
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:15,760
But yeah, I'm, I'm not going to
get over this episode for a

2054
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:19,440
while.
And like I said, give that child

2055
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:24,640
all the awards because he
knocked it out of the park.

2056
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:28,360
We did.
We did.

2057
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:32,640
So now we have one more episode
for the season.

2058
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:37,680
Anyways is back.
Will is in the dead lights.

2059
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:41,840
I don't know what's about to
happen.

2060
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:46,200
Obviously he's going to go to
sleep for 27 years, but what

2061
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:46,960
kind?
Yeah, we know that.

2062
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,600
Part, but what kind of damage is
he about to do before?

2063
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,160
That we don't know.
Yeah.

2064
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:54,880
And we just.
Know because because y'all,

2065
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:59,040
y'all melted one of the shards
so.

2066
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:00,640
How are you?
Well, they have a replacement.

2067
01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:02,440
They do, and that's what my
theory.

2068
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:04,320
Lily walking around with the
replacement.

2069
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:05,720
That's what.
Yup.

2070
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:08,680
True.
But they end up getting that one

2071
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,520
and burying that one.
Yeah.

2072
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:18,760
That would make sense.
Or they could do a massive

2073
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:24,720
search for the rest of the ship
with the rest of the thing that

2074
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:28,600
it was in.
The comet or whatever, yeah, but

2075
01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:34,920
wouldn't that be wouldn't that
be in his area like or

2076
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:36,760
connected?
Well, no, because that was out

2077
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:39,000
in the middle of the field, so.
Yeah.

2078
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:48,120
I guess we'll see, but you guys
have any final thoughts about

2079
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:50,800
this episode?
Nope.

2080
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:52,120
Nope.
That's it.

2081
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:57,960
I think rest in peace will.
I mean, yeah, rest in peace,

2082
01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:00,520
Rich.
And if we know better, rest in

2083
02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:01,920
peace will.
But we know better.

2084
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:04,120
Yeah.
Yes.

2085
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:07,400
I don't think I can take another
kid this in in this season.

2086
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:10,640
We've had enough.
We may have enough.

2087
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:15,760
We probably will, but I'm just
saying we know Will is alive

2088
02:00:16,280 --> 02:00:18,440
because we gotta have.
Mike, that's that's the only,

2089
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:19,840
that's the only.
One we do, we know.

2090
02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:25,480
Mark is safe.
We do and we say that, but do we

2091
02:00:25,480 --> 02:00:32,160
know that?
Do we know that Mike's daddy is

2092
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:35,360
Will?
He he says my dad name is Will.

2093
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:40,440
We know that that is his father.
But does it say his dad name is

2094
02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:42,600
Will?
In the book we know that it is

2095
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:44,680
his father.
Because he says will.

2096
02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:47,360
OK, that's all I need.
I need to know that they

2097
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:52,120
actually say a name.
They can't say my father and my

2098
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:56,120
grandfather because, you know,
Will's dad could they could have

2099
02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:58,560
a late kid after Will die?
We don't know.

2100
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:01,920
I'm just saying.
Father Will and his wife, his

2101
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:03,800
mother, died in the fire.
Yeah.

2102
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:07,960
And that would that wouldn't,
that wouldn't fly because it's

2103
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:10,080
only a 27 year period.
Well, let me see.

2104
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:12,280
Yeah, it's only a 27 year
period.

2105
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:17,040
Even if Charlotte is pregnant
now, it's going to be 18.

2106
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:21,520
Well, anywhere between 14 and 18
years before that child has

2107
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:23,960
another child.
And then you talk about 10 years

2108
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:26,760
later.
So the math would be just a

2109
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:30,760
little bit off.
I'm just making sure.

2110
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:34,960
You have no unexpected deaths on
our hands, no.

2111
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:37,600
Will is Mark's safe?
OK, OK.

2112
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,720
And so is Leroy, I think.
Yes, everybody.

2113
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:44,200
Else 3.
Not even sure Will's mom is

2114
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:46,040
going to make Charlotte.
We don't even.

2115
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:48,920
Yeah.
You know what?

2116
02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:51,080
She may not make it.
Charlotte.

2117
02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:52,880
Charlotte.
I don't think she will.

2118
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:56,840
I mean, because think about it,
even in earlier episodes, we

2119
02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:59,120
were talking about the fact that
we've never heard them talk

2120
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:03,240
about Mike's mom.
So.

2121
02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:05,600
Oh, grandmother.
Yeah.

2122
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:13,840
So maybe.
So I'm going to say rest in

2123
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:16,440
peace, Rich.
And that is it for our show.

2124
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:20,920
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2125
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:23,920
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2126
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:25,800
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2127
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:27,560
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02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:30,400
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2129
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:33,160
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2130
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