IT: Welcome to Derry (Season 1 Episode 5) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #386

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Anthony and Dina and we are
discussing episode 5 of It's

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Welcome to Dairy.
And Anthony, you said you got

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thoughts.
OK, All right.

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So first, first thought, first
thought, first thought, how we

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forget about Nurse curse like
we're trying to figure out the

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available available women and
and wait, who else?

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How do you think about her?
We've well, because I think, I

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think it's because we thought,
all of us kind of had the

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feeling we were like something
ain't right about her, but we

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were just thinking the wrong.
Kind of.

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We were thinking the wrong kind
of something, but something

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definitely wasn't right.
Where is wrong?

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Something we wrong with
something?

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Did we really know?
I don't feel like we did.

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We know her last name.
And then did we think anything

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about 'cause he Kirsch is the,
the, the, the store guy, right?

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The guy that was like, you know,
he offered to help her get stuff

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off the shelves in the other
episode, Lily.

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Oh.
Oh wait, the store guy, 'cause

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that's where he was, Mr. Curry.
I don't I don't know, but I

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don't think it was him.
But the but the the crazy thing

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about her is like, and
throughout the entire episode,

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like they were throwing us
little clues.

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I didn't catch none.
I wasn't paying any attention

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because I was so focused on the
fact that Maddie showed back up.

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So it's like when Lily went to
go see her at the house and the

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husband came out and he was, of
course, menacing.

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And where's my steak?
Don't you overcook.

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Nothing about oh, no, I can't
say who she is because of who

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her husband.
Nothing about that click, even

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when he was in the backseat of
the car.

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It still didn't click.
No, because they kept focusing

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on her hands.
Her hands were steady.

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If this was somebody she was
scared of, her hands would have

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been shaken.
I missed all the context clues

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with this one because when they
got out the car and they were

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looking at each other, I was
like, oh, so And then something

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clicked right before they
grabbed each other.

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I was like, oh.
No, as soon as soon as she got

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in the car I said God damn it is
her because I was like he in the

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back seat.
I told him he in the back seat

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and she was like OK and damn it
he was in the backseat.

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Soon as I saw she had a husband
I knew it was her because we was

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trying to figure out who was
married.

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A girl didn't think who was
married.

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Soon as I said she had a
husband, I said oh.

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I wasn't even thinking about it
at my point.

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Because you know what?
I'm focused, OK?

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So I'm trying to find the
connection between because in

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this universe, in a movie,
Beverly goes to see Miss Kirsch

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and that's who it is pretending
to be or who it is in the

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apartment that attacks, that's
Miss Kirsch.

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That makes sense.
Because I've been trying to

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feed, I've been trying to put
her with Pennywise this whole

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time and I wouldn't even
thinking about always.

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Her.
We weren't thinking about Grogan

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at that point because we were
like, OK, he on his way to

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Shawshank.
Lily is trying to you know, Lily

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is trying to get some help.
I'm trying to figure out the

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connection between her and
Pennywise and then I'm looking

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I'm like that she maybe she is
Pennywise and then because but I

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wasn't thinking about none of
that other stuff.

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I was like God damn.
Like literally they right before

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they grabbed each other the
light bulb went off in my head.

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I was like, oh Hanukkah, you
missed all the context clues in

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this one.
And the second thing, Speaking

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of contest clues, them kids is
fucking gullible because I saw

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that hand.
I said come on guys as.

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Soon as I heard the cop, I was
like, if that's Maddie, man, I'm

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running.
The thing that really got me

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because I was like, OK, did he
really like?

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I don't know what it was with
this episode.

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I was trying to believe all the
stuff, but when Maddie came out,

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when that mother fucker was
paler than a piece of paper, I

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said something right about him.
Something is not right about

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him.
Was like, I understand you've

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been in the sewers, but boy were
you drinking the sewer water?

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Well, technically speaking he
was, but was like, you look ill

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boy, I'm saying.
I say, y'all, he he don't leave

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leftovers.
He just.

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Don't.
And you finally get out of the

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sewer and you're like, don't
tell nobody.

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I don't want to go home to my
dad.

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At this point you really your
dad is worse than the sewer.

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That's what I I said.
I said I want to know.

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Like we still need to get some
Maddie back story because I want

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to know exactly how bad your dad
was that you would like.

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I'd rather go back to the store
sewers than him.

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Because we got to think about
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Pennywise gets into their minds
so he he has their memories.

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He knows what he knows what
their fears are.

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This boy's dad scared him so
much he ran away or he tried to

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run away.
Lily, the boy stuck his fingers

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through the drain pipe.
He is gone, Gone, gone, gone.

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Lily and she holding on.
They holding on to a little bit

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of hope.
Yeah, he gone.

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But Susan, the the hand came
like this.

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I saw he going to pretend to be
mad but they they don't no they

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so gullible.
They are and they were.

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So your.
Children, they had to have hope.

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They were trying to look.
They were trying to find a way

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to defeat him.
Mars is now on board.

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Did you say hope?
Did you say hope?

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Don't you do it?
Don't you?

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Do it, don't you Do It is a
place where dreams go to hope.

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I know you're so chilling.
I said it, but Oh my SO.

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Those are highlights.
Oh, third highlight.

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What's in the box?
Don't open the box.

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I'm I'm curious, I need to know.
Well, I can well you if if I'm

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wrong or not, if I'm right, if
it's the same as in the book

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Dick in in in in the signing,
Dick tells Daniel that he tells

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him to create a box to put the
spirits in that he was saying

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and Dick put his trauma the the
abuse that he suffered.

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I.
Kind of figured.

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That's what it was because he
was afraid that it would

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overwhelm him.
So he put in, he put that trauma

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the the sexual abuse, he put all
that in the box.

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I was wondering, I couldn't
remember what the what the

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significance was.
I couldn't remember.

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So that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.

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Because that's so online,
someone was like, oh, he put the

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spirit of his grandfather in
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If they're doing it different
than the book, OK.

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But if they're going with the
book, it's his trauma.

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My first thought was it was his
ability to see the dead.

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He stuffed that power in there
because he didn't want to see

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him.
Yeah, man.

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Because you know, when he came
out, the first person he saw was

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poor Paul.
Oh my God.

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That, that's number four.
Sad.

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Boys, But then I tell y'all,
Polly was going to die.

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Did you say Polly was going to
die?

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I didn't think it was going to
be in that way.

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So those are my 4 highlights.
OK, gotcha.

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What about you, Dana?
So one of my things I, I, I

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actually kind of like in this
episode was Marge just coming

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straight with Lily and just
being like, I'm sorry, I'm

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sorry, I didn't believe you.
This is crazy.

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And I told them, you know,
whatever they needed to hear so

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they wouldn't blame you, even
though she knows that people

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won't still blame her.
But like she immediately was

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like, OK, this is messed up.
This is what my friend been

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going through.
I didn't get my shit together.

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And so I like that she, I mean,
it was a traumatic thing she had

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to go through to get there, but
it wasn't one of those things

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where like she needed to, you
know, fake, she need to figure

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stuff out or she need to be mad
at somebody or whatever.

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She just immediately was like,
sis, you was right.

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You ain't crazy.
And what can I do to help?

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Right.
And I was like, OK, Marge, you

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OK?
You got this?

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You got.
And I thought it was cute to

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her.
And Rich was holding hands.

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It was cute.
The other thing I really, really

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loved is, and I can't think of
her name, Miss.

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Was it bro?
Was it Rose?

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Is it Auntie?
Yes, auntie came in there

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telling her boy what he needed
to do and was like, you know

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what, just baby you, you, you
got the power here, you know,

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and I like that.
And even when he was like speak

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English, which, oh, let me just
tell you, my skin was crawling.

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I'm like, OK, white man telling
the natives who belong here to

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speak English.
Well, I wanted to snap.

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I was like, it's ATV show girl.
It's ATVI know, but I love that

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scene because I like I really
love how they were communicating

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how she was giving him a lowdown
without, you know, them even

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figuring it out.
I thought that was really a good

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thing.
What else?

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I actually I love that.
Oh boy, came out there and

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started shooting and our girl
who like to be in the middle of

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everything, got a little little
fear in her dropping down on the

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ground.
Like OK, you see, everything

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ain't coaster.
Yeah, that was feeling Susie's

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dad.
Yeah.

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Yeah, she saw Penny Wise, you
know, iteration Penny Wise and

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and yeah, she saw that.
And so I was like, now are you

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going to stick?
Are you going to calm down and

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mind your business for a little
bit, sis?

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Because I, I feel like you need
to do that.

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Your son is in the sewer right
now because you don't know where

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the hell yet.
So I I kind of like that scene

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too.
And they are also like right

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after that, your husband comes
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He was like, OK, look what I'm
about to tell you.

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Going to sound just a little bit
crazy, but I need you to believe

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me because we got to get the
hell.

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Out Now what?
What was funny was he went the

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shot, you let us move, he said
Hold up, hold up.

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You're supposed to move on to
the base.

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I said oh base, I never told.
You to move to there.

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You wanted to have a normal.
Life.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's on you, partner, that's

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on you.
Right, I mean, he could have

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still warned him when he said he
wanted to move, but I guess in

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the guys thoughts he was
probably thinking like well

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maybe they'll be OK, whatever,
no big deal 'cause it doesn't

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clearly doesn't affect every
child, right.

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Like so you know, he might have
thought they would have been all

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right, but.
Also handling wasn't on the

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team, he wasn't on the quote UN
quote on the team at that point

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yet that's true.
So it's like, how much do you

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trust him with to say, I don't
think it's a good idea for y'all

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to stay in town because
immediately he's going to want

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to know why and why you don't
have.

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And he might change his mind.
He black.

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Well, you know what?
We just not going to move there.

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Deuce says yeah, right.
Yeah, he right.

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He might Black.
Well, if you don't want me to

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move, I have to stay on base.
Nah, that's alright.

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Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.

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It's There's a lot of good stuff
in this episode though.

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It was so for me.
I like being right.

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I like the fact that Pennywise
basically told Lily, yeah,

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you're the one that's bringing
everybody to me because you're

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such a good friend.
Like like you are bringing the

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buffet to the sewers.
I like you.

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I'm going to keep you.
I'm going to keep you around up

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until he start running towards
her and again, y'all and we get

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him doing the run, we get him as
Charlotte doing her.

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I'm gonna need you.
We don't need to have a quota of

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two of these runs every episode
and y'all have done this for the

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last three episodes.
I'm gonna need y'all to quit.

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I'm gonna need you to quit.
But the the effects, the

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practical effects those see job,
whatever it is that they are

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doing with his face.
Yeah.

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When he started running towards
Lily with his mouth open and the

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light catches him and his eye
does that little jump, I felt I

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was like this is supposed to be
scary.

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I was cracking up cuz his eye
did that jump.

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Like seriously, right now, right
now, Just when I'm about to have

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a snack right now.
The good one.

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Right and then he just kind of
stopped that.

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I twitches.
He looks down like fuck.

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He starts backing up and Lily is
sitting there looking like you

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scared of a little light.
Oh OK, we got this.

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But I I will say this, I got to
give it to my girl Lily.

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She was being brave because when
I say her friends took tail and

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ran and I know that the
separation was probably Penny

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Wise's design because like my
daughter was watching the

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episode with me.
She said how did she get so

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lost?
She literally was right behind

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them when she fell.
And I'm like he's been doing

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that the whole episode because
even with the army guys, y'all

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just right there.
It's not like y'all had a whole

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bunch of directions to go to
because y'all were all trying to

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stay.
Same way, yeah.

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Together and he separated y'all
into what, 123 different groups?

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Yeah, and.
And he teleported.

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Dick activated too.
He told him somewhere.

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I didn't know he could do that.
I didn't know he could.

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I don't.
Know if.

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He, I don't know if he actually
did that or if that was just in

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Dick's mind.
Yeah, but he totally

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disappeared.
Like that's true.

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The only thing I can think of is
he had them off to the side and

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made it to where they couldn't
see him.

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Could be, yeah.
Or he just like when he went

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underwater, he just drug him
wherever because he ended up.

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Outside.
The the sewer at some point, so

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maybe he just kind of pulled
them under the water and they

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were like, where'd he go?
Or he could have been, he could

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have been blocked.
He could have just been blocking

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the view of the other two guys
and showing them what they fear.

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Because I'm going to tell y'all
now.

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When they looked in that tunnel
and that hand came out and said

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I want you.
And it was a ghost of Uncle Sam,

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I fell out laughing.
I was like, how amazing is this?

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Well, that's the thing that's
annoying.

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It's like they're like anything
that doesn't feel right, just

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shoot it.
And I'm like, that was such a

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bad command because.
Between that was a set up.

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Right, because it was just like,
why would you just automatically

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start shooting if something's
playing with your mind, you

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know, you don't know who you
looking at.

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It could be a whole like, you
know, and I just thought that

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was, I was like, that was some
poor commanding right there,

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buddy.
I was, I was, this is off the

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topic, but I was talking to the
person that related to by

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marriage who I live with.
And I was pondering and you know

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out loud, you think it would be
beneficial for it to let them

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find the artifacts so we could
escape.

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But she said she posited the
idea that it's hunger is so

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great.
Yeah.

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It's all smorgasbord.
She's like, you ain't really

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that smart if you really think
about it.

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Like it, it wasn't thinking
about trying to escape.

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It was like, oh, this is a meal
down here.

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You can give a damn about the
pillars.

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I got access to food right?
Now like, oh, Golden Corral came

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to me.
I got a weird.

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I got a weird connection.
OK, so like, you know how on

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Lilo and snitch Stitch?
I'm sorry, Snitch.

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I've been drinking Lilo and
Stitch How they had him like

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locked down because he wasn't
controllable and all that stuff

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and ever.
And then he got he got away and

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that.
So maybe whoever locked him down

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or did whatever they did to put
him inside that Obsidian or

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whatever was like he's just out
here doing doing, doing things.

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He ain't got no rhyme or reason.
He just out here being wildly

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put him in his bank because he
just doing too much wherever he

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came from.
And that was kind of his thing

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where he just wasn't smart or
anything.

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He just was led by hunger and
led by like carnage and they

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might have thought like we need
to like get him off wherever the

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heck we from because he was like
that.

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Because I feel like he
definitely, I mean he's not an

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idiot, obviously, because he
knows how to play with people's

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minds, But I do think, like you
said, he he's just he's nothing.

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He's just carnal.
Everything about him is carnal.

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Like it's nothing like he's not
trying to build a, a House of

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it's, he's not trying to
reproduce, he's not trying to

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take over the earth.
And at some point, if he had

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means to do it, he would just
eat everybody's fear and kill

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everybody off.
And then what?

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What's he going to do then?
You know, so that makes a lot of

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sense.
It's smart enough to not kill

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everyone off so you have a
steady supply of food.

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Yeah.
Right.

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Well, that part, yeah, because
20.

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Seven years.
It could kill everybody in

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dairy, but it it realized that
this is a limited food supply.

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Yeah.
Because there.

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It is if you kill everyone in
the town, I've, you know, even

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though we talk about how, you
know, he kind of, you know, puts

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the little cloud over everyone
and, and people just kind of

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they're, they're foggy about
what's going on.

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If a whole town disappeared,
that's going to be enough for

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people to say, you know what,
I'm not crossing this border.

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They did it before because in
the story you see all the

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sellers that came here had
killed.

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Yeah.
Because what I also think, like

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him being trapped there, he has
no choice but to make the food

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constantly.
Like if he could move, he

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probably wouldn't carbonate as
much, you know, because.

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But since he's stuck in a place
where this is the only place

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where I can eat, you know?
Yeah, it's fun enough to figure

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out, but he just sort of just
adapted to its situation.

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Right.
Like the last time they killed

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all the settlers, it had no
food.

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He was like.
Yeah, because the native were

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like, what we're not going to do
is cross this border or or go

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into these woods.
Yeah.

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Right.
And then once the new settlers

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came and they were like, don't
go in there.

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They went in there anyway, he
realized.

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I can't kill them all.
I just kid and it's just just

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adapted over the 300 years or
so.

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Yeah, or I mean, probably longer
than that, but yeah.

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But so this was the thing that I
thought was interesting because

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the way that I can't remember
the general's name, so I'm just

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going to call him Francis
because that's the name that we

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hear the most.
So Francis is telling Rose his

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plan when she comes to confront
him about her nephew.

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And he's basically and, and what
he tells Hanlon, he's basically

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like, OK, this is what we're
going to do.

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So we figured out that these
tunnels are under the house.

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We're going to send a team out.
They're going to secure the 13

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artifacts and they're going to
move them closer to kind of, you

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know, they're going to try to
enclose Pennywise in a smaller.

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Circle smaller prison.
Maybe it's just me, but I feel

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like the math wasn't mashing
because the people that you sent

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was nowhere near enough to do
the plan that you just talked

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about doing.
Not with 13 pillars and you got

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to move them all right?
I don't even think you had 13

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people down there total.
I don't even I don't even think

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they realized the distance they
had to do this because it's

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supposed to be the border like
around Derry.

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So I.
Mean, you know, you know, I

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mean, Derry is a, it's a small
town, but it's not, it's not,

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oh, we all just going to walk
there in like 20 minutes type of

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small.
Because if you remember the the

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the flashback we saw, those
smoke stacks was way out.

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Miles.
Miles.

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Yeah, that house is what in the
center?

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In the center.
Supposed to be yeah.

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So I was, I was a little bit
confused about that.

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I was like, OK, something about
this plan just does not seem

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right.
And I don't know if it was just

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that maybe he has something else
that he's trying to accomplish

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and he's just telling Rose and
handling what he needs them to

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hear in order for them to go
along with it.

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Because of course, you know,
once Rose has her confrontation

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with him, she was like, OK,
you're going to need my help.

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Or at least let me prepare
Taniel so that he can help you.

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And basically what she said was
fuck them.

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You going to go in here with
this with this weapon, you going

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to make sure that you're
protected.

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You won't let the thing finish
them off.

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And we just going to be done
with it.

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You know, she's she's not caring
at this point.

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And I can't really say that I
blame her because here you are

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again.
We we got to go back to this the

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first time we told y'all not to
cross these borders.

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We told y'all not to go into the
forest and you went anyway and

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you got wiped out.
So here you are again.

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The natives have been protecting
this land.

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They've been protecting this
city for the most part.

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Yeah, you got a few casualties,
but it's not carnage.

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They've been protecting it.
And here you go, Little white

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man all of a sudden remembers.
And he was like, oh, you know

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what?
We can close it and we can

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control it and we can put on a
leash.

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She was like dude no this is not
what you going to do.

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How you going to do that?
How you going to do that?

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Even if you think about it the
way that he's talking about

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doing, if, if if you send 13
teams out, you find the pillars,

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even if everyone digs at the
same time and all like, OK,

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we're going to dig up these
things and then get on the walk

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and talk, OK, Everybody take 10
paces in, OK.

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Even if you do that, you're not
really like there's got to be

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something vulnerable there one,
because you don't quite know

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exactly how this works because
you really think the natives are

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about to tell y'all the entire
thing.

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No, just like she didn't tell
them about the the shark that

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she gave to Tango that, oh, this
thing will we'll keep it away

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because what will they do if
they do it?

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They're going to take it.
They're going to be like, OK,

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fuck him.
We, we're just going to take it

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and we're going to do whatever.
We're going to try.

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Oh, let's go try to hunt him or
let's go try to caption.

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At some point you just got to
let the idiots be idiots and

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just do what they gonna do.
But.

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Yeah, it's that mindset, you
know, like, oh, they're savage.

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They're this, that, that.
But then you come to this

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country and you can't even farm.
You can't stay alive.

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They got to help you stay alive.
And then they they hold this

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thing now, been doing it for
centuries.

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But you come and say no, no, no,
we, we, we better, we know more.

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We we got this.
We can use this as a weapon,

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don't you think?
If it was anything I think that

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could be done to be beneficial
to help everybody else out,

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don't you think they would have
done it already?

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Yeah, by now.
But they're basically like, OK,

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you know what?
We're going to leave him in this

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little area here and yeah, we
just going to leave him alone.

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I mean, think about it in the
previous episode when they gave

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us the the back story, they were
like they lived in harmony with

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it and they were like you stay
on your side of the of the white

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chalk line.
We going to stay on ours and we

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just gone.
It's going to be copaceted.

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We we're good.
It's even like when they were in

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the meeting in this episode, the
girl was saying he goes and does

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his thing and then we get we get
our years of peace like you do

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you whatever it is you going to
do.

447
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,680
And then we get our peace like
they made whatever decision need

448
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,320
to be made.
Yeah, because even when he was

449
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,280
talking about it, he said we
don't have as many casualties in

450
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,800
this cycle as we did in 35 and
in O 8.

451
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,320
He was like, yeah, we had, I
think what he say, 27 casualties

452
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,040
and he was talking about the
number of children, he said.

453
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,000
But it's not as many compared to
what we've seen, right?

454
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,600
And then you got the one person
who was like, well, you hurry

455
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,800
up, dude.
No, because guess what?

456
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,360
If this is going to keep all of
us alive, you shut your trap.

457
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:53,560
You let him talk, but however
long he want to talk.

458
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,840
I'm sorry I see any details.
Whatever has been working for

459
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,440
several 100 years.
So you keep your mouth closed

460
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,240
and stick to the program.
And make sure you remember what

461
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,640
the hell I'm saying, because
you're going to be the first

462
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,960
idiot to get Ada.
You better be taking notes.

463
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:19,880
Right, right, right.
But let me OK, so, so let's go

464
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,720
back because we, we got to talk
about this whole thing with the

465
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:29,720
kids because I don't know what
it is about the kid.

466
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,800
And I, well, let me not say that
I know it's because the adults

467
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,360
don't don't listen, don't want
to believe them.

468
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,320
They feel like they have nowhere
to turn.

469
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,800
And again, I, I kind of felt bad
for Lily because she was just

470
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,520
kind of like in this, in all of
this bad things, you know,

471
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,200
everything bad that's happened,
There's that one little piece of

472
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,080
hope.
Oh, look, there's Maddie.

473
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,840
I'm sure alarms were going off
in her head because if you look

474
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,880
at Maddie, something will tell
you that ain't quite Maddie, you

475
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,760
know what I'm saying?
But she wanted to have hope.

476
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,360
Shut up, Anthony, she wanted to
have it.

477
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,920
She had her little slice of it.
But the crazy thing is when she

478
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,680
tries to convince everybody
else, like Rich, I love my man

479
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,160
Rich, and I'm so scared that
he's going to be next because

480
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,280
Rich is the voice of reason with
everything.

481
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,040
Because Ronnie is wanting them
to go one way, Lily's wanting

482
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,560
them to go one way, and Rich is
like, what the hell are both of

483
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,160
y'all talking about?
No, we don't need to be doing

484
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:42,480
this, but when I say when she
pulled out the little container

485
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,760
with Mommy's little helper.
Oh.

486
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,640
My gosh, she was.
Like, yeah, we got, we're going

487
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,320
to take as many as we can.
My mom eats these like M&M's, my

488
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,280
daughter's background.
Like, sweetheart, your mother is

489
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,440
a lot bigger than you.
It probably doesn't affect her

490
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,520
the way it's.
Going, she's been taking it so

491
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,160
much longer.
You just go and jump in with

492
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,240
three, Lady jump in with three,
three.

493
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,040
How we go from 1:00 to 3:00?
And it's 10 O clock in the

494
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,920
morning.
The only person who we've seen

495
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,760
any breakfast is Will.
So they all doing this on an

496
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,240
empty stomach.
I was like, oh, this is not

497
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,800
going to go well.
This is not going to go well at

498
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,080
all.
I'm just screaming at the TV

499
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,760
like baby, baby, baby.
Three though, come on now.

500
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,240
Just just one.
That's one.

501
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,600
Do I have two?
Right?

502
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,080
Like, just work your way up what
you see.

503
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,560
In the end, it really didn't
matter because they were all

504
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,440
scared to say yeah.
All it did was make them hide

505
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,560
until they got some real fear.
And then it was like adrenaline

506
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,720
kicked in and it didn't work.
Right.

507
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,400
Because I tell you, when Maddie,
when he walked up there, he was

508
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,280
like, I thought it was right.
I was like, something's not

509
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,960
right.
And then when they turn around,

510
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,000
they all looked they were all
looking down the the tunnel

511
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,360
because they heard handling
calling for Caloran.

512
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,320
When Maddie starts walking up
there, he starts on the I said,

513
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:15,320
is this give us a pole dance
before he eats these Maddie pole

514
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,920
dance, baby.
Then he starts singing.

515
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,400
Then you see the kids and I was
like, you know what?

516
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:29,120
I really, I really did not need
to see the kids that way.

517
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,000
Like we already saw them torn
apart, smashed, and and just the

518
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,160
description that fate Maddie
gave.

519
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,680
I didn't need to see them like
that.

520
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,160
I didn't need to see poor little
Susie, and I didn't need to see

521
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,160
Teddy with his head open and I
didn't need to see Phil with my.

522
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,440
Yeah.
And then when I saw the ham come

523
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,960
out of their tent, I knew it was
not going to end well for the

524
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,800
kids when he said, oh, let's
take you.

525
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,040
Let's go to the sewers and get
Teddy.

526
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,680
Yeah, no.
Yeah, no.

527
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,520
So if he's still alive after all
this time, he going to have to

528
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,040
figure out how to get out
because I'm not going in the

529
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,880
sewer.
Nope.

530
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,320
I am an anchor today, I bet you
that.

531
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,880
Absolutely not.
You would not see me floating.

532
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,880
Nope.
No, and and that was the other

533
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,520
crazy thing because they kept
using the floating metaphors.

534
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,600
She, she talked about, you know,
the, the anchor or the lifeboat

535
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,080
talking about that's where her
dad said basically trying to get

536
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,760
them to, you know, trying to
convince them to go and save

537
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,960
feel.
And then when they're inside and

538
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,080
they're talking, she said
something about, oh, when she's

539
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:53,800
talking about the, the pills and
she's having her little, not

540
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,480
necessarily hallucination, but
you can see that they're all

541
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,560
getting high.
She was like, Oh, this feels

542
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,320
like you did When I went to
Doctor Wagner's office, it felt

543
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,680
like I was floating on.
She's getting ready to say

544
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,280
floating on air.
And then all of a sudden they

545
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:15,800
hear the voice and I was like,
right, right, this is we don't

546
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,280
want to do no floating.
And then of course, you see Dick

547
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,880
Halloran floating in the water.
I was like, you know what?

548
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520
Just no, we're just we're.
Just.

549
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,560
Happening.
They they sobered up real quick.

550
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,440
Real quick like my daughter said
oh them anti anxiety pills and

551
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,560
do shit.
Nope.

552
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,360
Nope.
Because I'm sorry, once you see

553
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,680
your so-called friend's head
split open and something is

554
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,720
crawling out, no.
No, when they like.

555
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,400
And.
Then most of the twirl.

556
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,520
Was twirling around singing the
song on the pole and then he

557
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,240
started the back of his head.
I said Oh no.

558
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,360
No, I'm pretty sure we know this
is not Maddie.

559
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,880
Guys, can we run now?
Like what are y'all waiting on

560
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,600
all?
Right, all right.

561
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,480
Soon as he started getting up on
the pole, I would have been out,

562
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,920
'cause I'm like, OK, you know
what?

563
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,720
Because as soon as he made that
first turn, you see that.

564
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,280
You see the head splitting open.
That was your cue, kitties.

565
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,480
But of course, you're too high
to notice that.

566
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,360
You're probably thinking it's an
effect of the medication.

567
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,080
You're like, are we really
seeing this?

568
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,960
When he starts singing in that
creepy voice, that's when you

569
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,640
leave.
Because I'm pretty sure we'll

570
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,040
recognize that voice caller for
Halloween.

571
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,840
Will, I'm gonna need you to run
to your daddy.

572
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,760
I'm glad he took his time
though, because if he had been

573
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,160
maybe 2 seconds quicker, he'd
been dead.

574
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,080
But.
I need you to run to your daddy

575
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,040
like he just any.
What's crazy is he didn't even

576
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,760
listen.
Polly is literally like, dude,

577
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,560
what are you doing?
He ain't listening to nothing.

578
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,480
Polly's saying just shooting and
doing.

579
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,760
He was like, I actually see him,
right?

580
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,040
So Polly put tune together and
see.

581
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,320
OK so here's the other thing
that I found very very

582
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,000
interesting about this episode
because I don't know about

583
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,680
y'all, but it don't look like
Major Hamlin is fear proof, at

584
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,720
least not by not going by this
episode.

585
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,520
So I was talking to one of my
coworkers about it today because

586
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,440
she had to ask a bunch of
questions about stuff she didn't

587
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,280
understand.
And what I think it is is his

588
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,600
fear for his life.
He doesn't have that.

589
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,200
But when it comes to his child
and his wife, he's afraid for

590
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,120
them.
But I don't think he has.

591
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,680
Like, he don't care about
himself.

592
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,960
Like whatever happens to me
happens, but he has fear about

593
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,960
them.
And so, yeah.

594
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,520
Because because when when fake
Charlotte came around that

595
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,840
corner, he looked real scared.
Yeah.

596
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,960
And I was like, you know,
because I feel like he, he

597
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,920
probably was like, oh, no, my
wife is been got, my wife done,

598
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,520
got, got.
And then of course he probably

599
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,160
figured it out like it wasn't
her.

600
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,120
So I got it.
But then you got to shoot your

601
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,200
wife in the face.
It's like, yeah.

602
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,000
Yeah.
And it's like, it's not like she

603
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,520
is not the only negative emotion
that we experienced.

604
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,400
So there's concern, surprise,
shock.

605
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,520
You know, those are.
Monroe was scared.

606
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,880
He was scared.
Will you sum all those up?

607
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,080
They just totally bypasses the
actual fear itself.

608
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,280
The actual fear, like I don't
even think he was scared he was

609
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,560
going to die honestly.
Like it was him that was you.

610
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,639
Know yeah, no, I don't think he
was scared that he was going to

611
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:39,080
die but he was like when he saw
Charlotte he was definitely

612
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,440
scared that something had
happened to her and then once he

613
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,480
realized that it was faking when
he tell you know when he tells

614
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,320
Polly look, if you see anything
that doesn't belong down here

615
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:53,280
you shoot it.
But when your son and and I

616
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,920
guess also you're acting in the
heat of the moment you're not

617
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,440
thinking about the fact that
your son has already had an

618
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,760
encounter with whatever this
thing is.

619
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,160
So his whole thing was he's on
the base he shouldn't he

620
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,160
shouldn't be here.
You're not thinking that oh OK

621
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,640
he's going to come down here
with his friends or whatever

622
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,160
because you've already basically
told me you'll see your friend

623
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,840
you'll see your little friends
after all this is over.

624
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,920
I was like, how you know the
friends going to be there?

625
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:30,760
But also, but also the the lack
of of fear that he could be his

626
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,080
son.
Like he wasn't like he was

627
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,440
afraid that this might be him
for real.

628
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,120
That was that that was
absolutely that was absolutely

629
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,160
gone.
He was pretty confident this was

630
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,480
not what it seemed It was saying
like he didn't even second guess

631
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,480
himself.
Yeah, yeah.

632
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,760
And that that's, I think that's
where where fear would have been

633
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,360
handy at that point.
Yeah.

634
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,400
So you didn't?
Have kept him from making the

635
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,360
decision he made and now his,
you know, his, his, his Rd. dog

636
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,280
is gone because Polly was like,
yo, you're not listening to me

637
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,240
that I see him.
He's there and I don't.

638
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:15,160
I just don't think it was
registering in in his mind.

639
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,600
He was just like, whatever this
thing is, I got to kill it.

640
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,720
He had already made the
calculation.

641
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,080
One test was Charlotte, so this
is obviously the next test.

642
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,280
Also, I do I do wonder like just
how much when, when he's when,

643
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,200
when, when Pennywise is messing
with their minds, Like how much

644
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,960
is actually their mind?
That's like, you know, like how

645
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,160
much of that is actually his
mind that's making these

646
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,440
decisions at that point?
Because like, he didn't even

647
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,640
like that when a boy came
around, he didn't even try to.

648
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,120
Like he's yelling dead.
And he was.

649
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,400
Like I was like, it's me, it's
me.

650
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,320
No.
No, it ain't.

651
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,160
No, it ain't that, ain't you?
That was that would have been a

652
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,640
harsh lesson.
Oh my God, a lesson.

653
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:05,720
Oh, he would have tried.
He would have lost it right

654
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:06,480
there.
He would have.

655
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,560
That would have been it.
Literally.

656
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,920
But OK, so I have to ask Anthony
because I have not read The

657
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,240
Shining, so I don't know a lot
about Dick's background.

658
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,480
You said something about he's he
is able to see dead people.

659
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:21,520
That is one of his powers
because I don't think he could

660
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,080
do that in The Shining, or at
least.

661
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,840
Not in the movie.
Not in the movie.

662
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,640
They didn't imply that.
No, I, I was saying.

663
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,640
I don't remember if that was one
of his powers.

664
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,840
I knew about their voyance but I
I was wondering if that was the

665
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:43,360
power he had locked away only
because at the end he saw Paulie

666
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,560
and it wasn't like a version of
the box was.

667
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,520
Open already so.
OK.

668
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,560
OK.
And then like in and in the

669
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,400
book, he also told Danny,
because when Danny was asking

670
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,040
questions into the shining about
like the rooms and like the lady

671
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,600
in the room and stuff.
And then he was just saying like

672
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,120
asking him about are they
ghosts?

673
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,160
Are there this, are there that?
And he was just basically like,

674
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,320
look, you just stay away from
where you ain't supposed to go

675
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,360
and don't go around 2:37.
So I think he can see that

676
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,400
people because that Lady that
was in that room was just one of

677
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,000
the things that Danny first
asked about.

678
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,800
And he just basically told him,
like, don't go.

679
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,080
You just don't go where you
ain't supposed to go, but don't

680
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,040
go looking for nothing.
You'll be all right, right?

681
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,320
Yeah, but then in doctor sleep.
But then in Doctor Sleep you you

682
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,440
find out that she followed Danny
like he was still he was being

683
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,080
haunted by the spirit.
By the lady from the tub.

684
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Yeah, Oh.
I actually have to read Doctor

685
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,240
Sleep because I haven't read
that yet.

686
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,640
That's horrible.
OK.

687
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,120
OK, that is horrifying, but I
do.

688
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:54,080
See.
Yeah, I, I most, I don't want to

689
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,840
say most, but you know, they,
they have a range of, of how

690
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,240
powerful they are.
So you find out in Doctor sleep

691
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:05,880
actually, because they only go
out to the powerful ones, but

692
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,120
there's a range.
And so it it would make sense

693
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,440
that they would at least be able
to know that there's a spirit

694
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,480
there at the minimum that that
most people see.

695
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:24,640
And as A and if you're a kid,
like you're the kid and in The

696
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,400
Sixth Sense, like, what did he
do?

697
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,600
He tried to ignore them and
pretend they weren't there.

698
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,080
He would go to a church because
they don't like churches.

699
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,640
So he was doing his best to
avoid.

700
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,360
And so Dick, his grandmother
taught him just put that in a

701
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,600
box.
So I'm assuming she meant put

702
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,040
your.
Well, I thought put your powers

703
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,080
in the box, but then I remember
in the book it was the trauma

704
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,920
that he put in the box.
OK.

705
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:55,680
But I was wondering if they were
just trying to put it together

706
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,400
and see he put some of his
powers.

707
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,320
Because if you're a kid, that
would freak you out if that's

708
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,680
what we're seeing all the time.
Yeah, that's what we're.

709
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,920
Seeing dead people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

710
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,320
And then who knows what they
were doing to him.

711
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,480
I mean, just like in The Sixth
Sense, they kept messing with

712
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,280
him because they were trying to
get him to help him and when he

713
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,120
was ignoring them, they were
hurt him because it's basically

714
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,080
like, you can help me.
You can.

715
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,280
Help.
They were malevolent.

716
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,760
They just was trying to get
help.

717
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,720
Yeah.
It's like in in Ghost when

718
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,760
Whoopi Goldberg actually
unlocked it.

719
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,400
All of a sudden the whole bunch
of spirits is trying to get

720
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,160
hurt.
I'm trying to get hurt to help.

721
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,560
Yeah, same thing in Umbrella
Academy with Klaus, the same

722
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,480
thing happened with him.
So OK, that that would make

723
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,040
sense.
That would that that would

724
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,720
actually make it a little bit
more interesting too, especially

725
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,360
given that I've only seen The
Shining.

726
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,400
And then, you know, at the end
of the movie or like towards the

727
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,520
end of the movie, right before
Dick gets there, that's when we

728
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,320
start noticing that there are
ghosts all over this hotel.

729
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,200
You know, like having parties
and doing this.

730
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,640
So if he's able to see all of
that, that would be it's.

731
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,920
Oh gosh, OK Charlotte just ran
at me on the TV.

732
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,960
I saw her flash off your face
too, and I was like, what was

733
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,720
that?
Listen.

734
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,160
And then my daughter just walked
in the room.

735
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,360
Yeah, so, so horrible.
The teeth thing, like why do

736
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,360
they got to do that?
But you know, even with all of

737
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:43,480
this, this, this creepy stuff,
I, I do have to say I am loving

738
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,520
the way that they are fleshing
this story out.

739
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:52,000
Like I, I can't say I have any
complaints about this show

740
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,360
except for the fact that they
keep doing this God damn run.

741
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,800
Other than that, I I like what
they're doing, especially with

742
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,640
the with the characters.
And again, going back to what

743
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,280
Anthony started out the episode
with the whole thing with Hank

744
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:12,240
and and and misses curse.
I'm just like, OK, So what kind

745
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,040
of repercussions is this going
to have?

746
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:19,520
Yeah, Because you know, you
know, that's about to be found

747
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,240
out one way or the other.
Oh yeah, for sure.

748
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,320
She 'cause then she said you
want to come back to my house,

749
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,640
ma'am?
What?

750
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,960
To your house.
Why?

751
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:36,160
But obviously, obviously it
wants him to stay there because

752
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,760
remember, the bus got attacked
by some beast.

753
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,920
Yeah, yeah.
And there were casualties, but

754
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,360
he happened to be the.
Only one that survived.

755
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,800
Yeah, but I mean, I could kind
of understand that because right

756
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,000
now Hank is the he's the
scapegoat.

757
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,160
He's the one that's oh, oh, oh,
oh, Dana, you.

758
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,280
It's the butcher.
It's the butcher.

759
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,440
It's the butcher.
Mr. Kirsch, It's the butcher.

760
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,760
The one that that Charlotte was
talking to and he was like, oh,

761
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,400
I just meant like I lot of your
new face.

762
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,800
It's him.
It's him.

763
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,920
That's the husband.
It's him.

764
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,680
Because I was like, we talk.
We have seen this man and we we

765
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:19,000
have heard Mr. We've heard the
name and we've seen this man

766
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,560
before.
I just couldn't place where I

767
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,880
saw him.
It's the Butcher.

768
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,760
He's not a nice man at home.
He's not a nice man at all.

769
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:33,800
That makes me curious now about
that whole situation.

770
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,560
Yeah.
And then that makes sense.

771
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,720
He was like, you cook my steak,
they cook it right, blah, blah,

772
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:41,320
blah.
Right.

773
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:46,000
But in the store, when he met
Charlotte, he was so nice and so

774
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,520
friendly and so welcoming.
And so maybe he did mean it the

775
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,440
way she thought he meant it, but
then he he course corrected to

776
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,480
make it seem like she was being
over the top.

777
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,800
Yeah, could, could be.
Because he was even nasty to a

778
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,760
little.
Not nasty to Lily, but kind of

779
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,440
like he's.
Like you're Terry Brent

780
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:13,120
Bainbridge kid.
But you know, I wouldn't, I

781
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,320
wouldn't be surprised that he
would talk to her kind of in

782
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,240
that way because again, she has
a reputation of being the town

783
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:22,280
crazy kid.
So he's probably like, what is

784
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,000
she doing in my house?
Like I want her here, You know,

785
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,920
especially with everything that
she's been associated with

786
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,760
lately, like, oh, you was there
when them kids disappeared.

787
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,520
And who knows what information
has gotten out about what

788
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,960
happened at the school.
Even though, yes, Marge is

789
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,320
telling everybody, no, she
didn't do it.

790
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,280
My my glasses broke.
They cut my eye and whatever.

791
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,480
I mean, I don't know how the
whole glasses cutting your eye

792
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,560
ended up with a screwdriver in
in y'all's hand.

793
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,840
I I mean, but I mean, you got to
give margin a for Everett

794
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,120
because and she could have
easily been like, I don't I

795
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,400
don't know what y'all talking
about.

796
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,560
She did this to me or whatever.
Whatever, right?

797
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,440
But dinner.
But dinner is is right though.

798
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:13,560
His whole demeanor is different.
His whole personality was

799
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:19,760
different at the house.
But you know what the the

800
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,480
natives were talking about?
They they were saying that what

801
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,920
was it his something about he
was spilling into the into the

802
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,400
water and it.
Was he was.

803
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,280
Shedding.
Yes, he's shedding into the

804
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,680
water and it's making the
residents more aggressive than

805
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,880
normal.
So maybe Mr. Curse wasn't such a

806
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:46,120
bad dude.
Well, we met him and it just has

807
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,360
gotten.
Worse.

808
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,920
Aggressively worse.
Yeah, like maybe he was just an

809
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,760
asshole of a husband.
Like maybe he was just mean or,

810
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,200
you know, just kind of verbally
nasty to his wife.

811
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:02,120
But when we meet him, I got the
feeling that he was kind of

812
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,200
maybe if he hadn't gotten some
physical violence yet, that he

813
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,200
was kind of escalating or
getting to.

814
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:09,160
Definitely.
Coming now.

815
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,880
Right, you find out who your
wife has been keeping company

816
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,960
with that's going to be.
That's the other.

817
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,920
Thing Now this whole situation
though, this whole situation

818
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,960
though, something about this
don't seem right.

819
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,760
Well now we got 1962 to meet up
because he worked in the

820
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,760
daytime.
So what's was he meeting her on

821
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,480
after her shifts at the
hospital?

822
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,200
I understand something don't
seem right.

823
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:45,360
He was at home, passed out or I
don't know.

824
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,560
Something don't seem right.
The man we.

825
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,080
Said that since we introduced to
her and, and the fact that you

826
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,200
reminded me that she's the nurse
that's in the movies, I'm like,

827
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,040
OK, you know what?
I really got to go back and

828
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:03,040
watch these two movies so I can
put my so I can put my head into

829
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,080
this timeline of the IT story
because you know, I started I

830
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,120
went back last week.
I I started to read the book

831
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:16,360
because I haven't read the book
in like maybe 20 something years

832
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,440
and just the fact that the book
starts out a little bit early in

833
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,080
the book, I think the time is
1957.

834
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,280
I was like, Oh, you already
messing with my timeline.

835
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,680
I can't do it.
I can't do it.

836
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:31,120
I got to I got to focus on this
timeline with the show.

837
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,200
So Imma have to go back and
rewatch those movies and kind of

838
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,080
try to see if I can connect
dots.

839
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,320
But I mean, we've been saying
since Miss Kirsch showed up,

840
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,000
well, at least since the second
time we saw her with Lily in the

841
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,000
diner, we were like, something
right about her.

842
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,240
Yeah.
So I and, and the fact that

843
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,760
she's connected to Lily, she's
connected to Hank Grogan.

844
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,920
I I don't know, I'm kind of like
Anthony, like whatever, I I

845
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,960
don't know any wise that I take
just having he just did the run

846
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,840
his I think like really, this
thing is in the water, like

847
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,200
where the hell you come from?
Yeah, but but so so something

848
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,200
they adding up about the curses.
Yeah.

849
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,080
To me, yeah, I know.
Yeah, drinking too.

850
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,600
Look, drinking too much of the
dairy water.

851
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,840
And I have a feeling just based
on how things are going, this

852
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,120
next episode is going to give us
a little bit of that answer

853
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,040
because something's got to come
up about her sneaking off with

854
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,000
him in the daylight.
Yeah.

855
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,360
In the woods and then come to my
house and.

856
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,920
They can't and he can't leave
because they get all the roads.

857
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,600
Locked up, come down in the
basement.

858
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,840
I'm down to the sewers.
Absolutely not.

859
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,520
I will not be going into your
basement, man.

860
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,400
Oh no.
I'm not going into your house,

861
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,240
but you are ready.
You are willing to take a murder

862
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:09,800
app to protect her so that she
doesn't get hurt and possibly so

863
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,040
you don't get hurt so you won't
get lynched.

864
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,360
You know what?
I'm good.

865
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,240
I'm good.
You can just, you can just you

866
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,360
can go back to town.
You can just leave me here in

867
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,880
the woods.
I take my chances.

868
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,400
I might climb a tree and just
sit there for a couple of days.

869
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,440
I will take my chances.
Oh my brother, pick a direction

870
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:30,680
and start walking.
And just start walking.

871
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,720
And just start walking a
straight line, pick a direction,

872
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,320
stay off the roads.
Be like Frodo, don't get on the

873
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:43,760
roads, stay off the roads.
Sir, because this is not going

874
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:50,520
to end well for you.
It's not no and I have a feeling

875
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,480
if he did make the Sarsan he he
would have been killed in

876
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,720
Sarsan.
Oh yeah.

877
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,920
And they were counting on that.
So they didn't have to do any

878
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,040
more with the case, right?
They were completely counting on

879
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,760
that.
Yep.

880
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,440
Absolutely.
And then I I was listening to

881
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,080
what he said.
He was like, yeah, you know,

882
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,640
maybe you'll be OK.
The last fish we sent in there

883
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,320
didn't make it a week.
And I was thinking back to

884
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,480
Shawshank Redemption and the way
that they kind of initiate the

885
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:24,520
quote, UN quote new fish that I
was like, yeah, no, I don't

886
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,280
think he would make it.
Yeah.

887
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,400
Because even in even in jail,
even in prison, and you hear

888
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,840
this all the time, there is a
even the most hardened of

889
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,160
criminals don't like people who
fuck with kids, right?

890
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,960
They they really don't.
So yeah.

891
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,480
They don't like kid molesters,
kid killers, and they're like.

892
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,320
Rapists.
Yeah.

893
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,920
So yeah, he would.
I I don't think he would have

894
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:04,160
made it that first night, but
oh, OK, We got what we got 3

895
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,120
episodes left.
So what else do we need?

896
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,760
Look, what else do we need to
know?

897
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,280
We need to know what's going on
with Halloran.

898
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,440
What's in the box.
We need to know what's in the

899
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,920
box.
What's in the box.

900
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,520
Oh.
You know you got to be a certain

901
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,640
a certain type of person to get
that reference certain age.

902
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,760
Right.
Oh, this is the one thing we

903
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,600
forgot.
So, yeah, Grogan tells his

904
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,360
little ladylove.
Oh, yeah, I think I got someone

905
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,040
who can help us.
So now Charlotte is about to be

906
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,720
pulled into this.
Yeah, on top of everything else

907
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:48,400
that's going on with her family.
Because now your.

908
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,160
Husband and killed his best
friend your son snuck out and

909
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,560
went into the sewers to go look
for this thing that is so

910
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,680
dangerous that you guys had to
move out of your house like.

911
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,280
So that's the other thing how he
going to find her she on base.

912
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,640
So I get I mean, it's not like
she at his house and she can get

913
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,760
a call from him because she
ain't at home.

914
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,520
So I'm trying to figure out how
he going to find her.

915
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:17,360
I don't know, because when he
said that, I was like, Brad,

916
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,840
she, you.
OK.

917
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,880
And she showed up on the base
curse.

918
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,240
Mrs. Curse showed up on the.
Base.

919
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,200
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.

920
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,280
I forgot.
She did.

921
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,160
She did go to the base.
Which?

922
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:33,440
How do you how do you know Mike?
I'm I'm confused.

923
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,680
Like maybe she went to her house
first and then maybe a neighbor

924
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,080
was like, oh, they moved back to
the base or something.

925
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,280
I'm telling you, the math ain't
math.

926
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,680
And.
No, because think about it, you

927
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:48,080
you really think Missus Kirsch
is going to show up at a black

928
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,360
family's house?
Well that's not traffic I like.

929
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:51,880
I forgot she even came to the
base.

930
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,720
How did he know?
He wouldn't have known.

931
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,960
That's yeah, I'm, I'm like
Anthony something right?

932
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:04,240
If he could, if he could, if he
could manifest, if he could

933
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:11,400
manifest as Maddie, yeah, who
knows what that motherfucker can

934
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,280
do.
Yeah.

935
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:19,920
Oh, and you know what?
OK, what if what if everybody

936
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:25,000
did die on the bus and he ate
that ate ate.

937
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,160
What's his name?
Hank.

938
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,880
And now?
He running around us Hank about

939
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,840
to go eat up some other people.
I will lose every piece of my IT

940
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:42,360
that I got.
Because somehow we know.

941
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,200
We, we know.
I don't know.

942
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:50,160
This is going to be interesting
because one of the previews has

943
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,240
the club burning with the the
place that the black soldiers

944
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:55,640
built was on.
Fire.

945
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,000
And everybody joints right.
So I have a feeling Hank is

946
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,560
probably going to be there and
everyone they're all going to

947
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,560
assume like all the white folks
like well, maybe they keep they

948
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:17,600
hiding him and and Hank and Hank
air quotes Hank making sure

949
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,880
everybody comes there so he can
get his big blow out for the end

950
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,320
of the cycle.
That's what I want to say.

951
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,040
The Augury and as they
mentioned, you know he has, he

952
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:35,720
has one big massacre before he
goes back into hiding, so.

953
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,520
Oh, I like, I like Dean.
I like Dean.

954
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,520
How you think?
And they're like, why?

955
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,720
OK, Sole Survivor.
Sole Survivor.

956
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,760
Hill specifically needed to be
the survivor in a in a situation

957
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,600
where unless he was going to
keep more more stuff up.

958
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,040
But then.
Well did they say he was the

959
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,280
only survivor?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

960
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,680
I just watched it not too long
ago, and Charlotte's watching,

961
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,920
Watching.
She's in her house and it comes

962
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,040
on the news.
It was first, it was something

963
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,480
else and I forgot the other
story that was was before that,

964
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,640
but.
Then he escaped.

965
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,480
And said that he escaped that
that, you know, and then

966
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,480
everybody else was dead.
And I was like, and how he just

967
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,520
happened to be the one to still
be alive.

968
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:29,840
They're going to be like, oh, he
was the one that killed them,

969
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,400
but then they got to answer
like, how did he get loose?

970
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,880
But you know, it's very weird.
Shit happens all the time, so

971
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,000
OK.
That would be so much fun if

972
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,840
he's dead.
Poor Ronnie though.

973
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,800
I feel bad for Ronnie but it
would be hilarious if he was

974
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,240
dead and he bout to come in
there and start really messing

975
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:51,760
stuff up.
Listen.

976
00:55:54,760 --> 00:56:00,720
Oh, yeah, because that is
another way to get like a big

977
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:04,880
massacre type thing going.
You know, you, you have the the

978
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,560
forbidden love aspect.
You let that one little detail

979
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,160
get out.
You're going to have the white

980
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,120
mob coming after the black guy
and then you're going to have

981
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,800
the black people be like, hold
up.

982
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,680
Like, yeah, he he fucking with
the white girl, but you ain't

983
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,720
just about to cut it.
It's it's going to be a

984
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:24,200
bloodbath.
Oh, and and who was Charlie

985
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:30,520
talking to on the phone?
Probably MLK or JFK or RFK or

986
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,760
one of them FK one of the FK's.
Yeah, I don't remember her

987
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,880
saying specifically anybody's
name, so maybe.

988
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:45,120
She didn't.
So that that's another mystery

989
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,560
because again, we don't, we
don't know a lot about

990
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,400
Charlotte's connections.
We just know that apparently she

991
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,720
has some, so who knows who she
could have called?

992
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:01,160
All we know for certain Halloran
is safe.

993
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,680
Yeah, if I say though, is he
really dead, people?

994
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,520
I think she might have been
talking to Rose, now that I

995
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,920
think about it, because now
remember, she gave her number

996
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,760
and was like, call me if
anything happens.

997
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,160
Or if you need a friend.
Or if.

998
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,800
You might be Rose.
Yeah, you might be right.

999
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,560
And of course, Rose would kind
of know what's going on.

1000
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,120
Yeah, So because.
They also did show like right

1001
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,160
after they said that he escaped.
They also did show that not

1002
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,520
Niebolt and Rhetta, the streets
were going to be closed off to

1003
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,000
the town or whatever and because
of the military.

1004
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,920
OK, so maybe some of these
pieces are starting to fit

1005
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,160
together.
I just tell you they need to

1006
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,880
stop playing with my my
emotions.

1007
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,680
But all this stuff, because this
is.

1008
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,880
It's like, how do you?
How do you deal with something

1009
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,200
that's in your mind?
You can't even, you can't really

1010
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:10,480
fight it like.
Maybe, maybe it is smarter than

1011
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:16,320
I think it is because it's like
it's playing for the chess and

1012
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:22,280
they playing, they playing, you
know, they're bowling, they're

1013
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,880
playing.
The Atari 2600 version.

1014
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,120
And.
Play PS-5 right?

1015
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:35,280
I mean, because.
Yeah, I mean because the the

1016
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,520
master he did with the gangland
violence like he he made made it

1017
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,160
look like 1 gang did something
to the other gang and then they

1018
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,040
like came after each other.
That's the black and white thing

1019
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,080
that's that's going to come in
the factor.

1020
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:55,600
Hank and he got a little it's
like I'm going to have to get.

1021
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,400
Food, these babies as a child, I
guess it does work because it

1022
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:04,120
would have access to everyone's
fears in the city and they just

1023
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,960
plays on on their fear and
that's it.

1024
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,240
That's all it has to do.
There's a little spark here,

1025
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,720
little spark there, spark over
here.

1026
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,960
Everything's in motion and you
just sit back and watch.

1027
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,760
Yep.
And you know Mr. Kirch, the

1028
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,120
butcher is going to figure in
into all of that.

1029
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,400
Because I just thought about
what y'all he's a butcher.

1030
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,400
He's about to come after Hank
with a butcher knife and it's

1031
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,000
about to be a whole bunch of
mess.

1032
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,200
Yeah, he going to get somebody
riled up because everybody going

1033
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,320
to be like that.
Poor Mr. Curse the Butcher.

1034
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,240
That's the butcher's.
Wife the.

1035
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,280
Bitch's wife.
Oh Lord.

1036
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,960
And she met she fooling around
with a with a Kitty.

1037
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,080
Murderer.
Oh yeah.

1038
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,760
And you know she ain't going to
get none of that.

1039
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,000
Blame to a certain degree is
going to be what did you do to

1040
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,600
her?
Yeah, so.

1041
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,760
OK, so it's funny that we're
talking about this because now I

1042
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,760
just thought about something
that a friend of mine posted

1043
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,600
online and I'm assuming it's
because she saw yesterday's

1044
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,400
episode and she was saying
something like being black and

1045
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,880
Stephen King is A2 edged.
No A2 double edged sided war.

1046
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,200
She had a 2 sided war.
Like it's always 1.

1047
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,400
You know, they always got fights
being black on both sides of

1048
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,440
things.
And I was just like, what does

1049
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,320
that mean?
And now we're talking about

1050
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,480
this.
And I'm like, huh, Maybe that is

1051
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,200
what what happens.
Yeah.

1052
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,640
Because.
Yeah.

1053
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,720
Because because again, like on
the one hand, when when you're

1054
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,000
going out and you're looking for
like the reviews or the

1055
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,720
discussions about the show,
there are a lot of people who

1056
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:01,000
are praising the fact that the
show centers on black

1057
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,040
characters, black families.
OK, We had this discussion.

1058
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,320
What the last episode of the
episode before that.

1059
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,040
On the one hand, that's good.
We we got some representation.

1060
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,520
We got them front and center.
But at the same time, when

1061
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:23,640
you're putting them in this in
this time specifically, yeah, it

1062
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:28,200
might not always be a good thing
because, you know, they're going

1063
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,760
to have to deal with some of the
the racial tension, the racial

1064
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,880
backlash, especially.
I mean, even even with them

1065
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,000
being in the North because,
yeah, the North was a lot better

1066
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,720
than the South, but it wasn't
perfect.

1067
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,480
They weren't just like all
embracing with open arms.

1068
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,800
You still have your idiots in
your ass hats like we saw in the

1069
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,600
first couple of episodes.
So with the smoke, with the

1070
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,880
smoke or stacks and sinners
with.

1071
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,400
Yeah, like Mississippi with what
do you say?

1072
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,840
With skyscrapers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1073
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,400
So I don't know.
I'm just, I don't think this is

1074
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,840
going to end well for Hank
Grogan, if it hasn't already

1075
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:16,440
ended for Hank Grogan.
These days was never, Never,

1076
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,040
Yeah.
They are.

1077
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,960
Yeah, they are.
Definitely.

1078
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,720
There's no way he's getting.
No, no.

1079
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,240
If he if like like Dennis said,
he might already be dead.

1080
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,280
He.
Might, yeah.

1081
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:33,560
Which would make it so good, I
mean bad for him, but I would

1082
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,320
really like.
Up the stakes, yeah, yeah.

1083
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,320
And as far as the kids go, I
don't know if I feel like Rich

1084
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,800
is going to make it a.
Little Rich.

1085
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:50,400
And and because he's the cutest
one, but also I feel like he's

1086
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,120
the only one.
With some damn sense.

1087
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,880
Because he's the one that's like
y'all, we are kids we should not

1088
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,160
be doing this.
Like no, the adults are not

1089
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,360
going to believe us.
Yes, they think that you

1090
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,800
attacked this girl.
Like who wouldn't think that?

1091
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,320
Who wouldn't think that getting
what they it was?

1092
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:14,920
Like my bar?
He was listening to them all.

1093
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,960
My Barber, my auntie.
Do you wash my car?

1094
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:28,800
Uncle Jose, who mowed lawns.
Because who's?

1095
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,320
Going to believe some other
stuff.

1096
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:36,000
I mean, at least March had the
the the mindset that she was

1097
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,480
like, OK, you know what's up
about this shit ain't right.

1098
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,960
So let me keep my mouth shut
before I end up at Juniper Hill

1099
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,520
next.
And, and like you said, I'm glad

1100
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,160
she came out and said it.
I'm glad she proved herself to

1101
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:54,480
be Lily's friend when it came,
when when I was said and done.

1102
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,640
Yes, I hate that you had to go
through what you went through.

1103
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,240
But you know what?
Looking at the damage her eye

1104
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,960
has, she got off easy.
Yeah.

1105
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,080
Oh yeah.
She got off easy and and that

1106
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,520
little scratch, look, if you got
to deal with that little scratch

1107
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,720
in order to understand that
there is something way bigger

1108
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,160
going on here than you being a
part of the patter cakes.

1109
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,760
OK, you know what then?
Then that's what we do at.

1110
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,280
Least.
Mars was like, look, you're my

1111
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,760
friend, I'm so sorry, what do I
need to do to help?

1112
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,040
And she didn't hesitate.
So I like that about her at.

1113
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:34,560
Least she ain't floating.
That's.

1114
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,480
All right, And that's because
Lily saved her.

1115
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,560
Yep.
And on that note, I think we can

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01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:50,760
be done.
Because anyway.

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01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,000
Wait to watch this.
I might watch it tonight.

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01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,920
I don't know.
I might not need no bad dreams,

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01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,320
but.
Are you talking about the next

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01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,360
episode?
Yeah, because now I'm ready to

1121
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,040
see what's going to happen.
I think I'm going to wait till

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01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,440
tomorrow to do that.
Oh, and and for some of those

1123
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,840
people listening, make sure you
go check out Hanukkah's Facebook

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:14,560
page where Erica Rose Pennywise.
Listen, I'm going to have to

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01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,120
make that post public because
it's so funny.

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01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,920
Somebody posted a meme and they
were like, if Erica Sinclair was

1127
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:27,480
in dairy, she'd have shut
Pennywise down the first night.

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01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,440
And so Anthony and a couple
other people started putting

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01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,520
their own Erica quotes up under
the post.

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01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,120
And when I say hilarious, I'm
gonna I'm gonna make that

1131
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,400
public.
I'm gonna make it public and

1132
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,680
probably share it to the Phantom
Hybrid Facebook page because

1133
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,800
yeah, it was hilarious.
But you know, I did think about

1134
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,800
that.
I was like, you know, who's one

1135
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,800
kid that Penny wise probably
would not like everybody.

1136
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,840
I think somebody else said in
the post, they say y'all noticed

1137
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,520
that Beckman ain't messed with
Erica cause Beckman don't want

1138
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,200
that smoke.
He don't want it.

1139
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,880
'Cause she's not weak, she not
weak, not in a little bit.

1140
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,400
Because when they said that, I
was like.

1141
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,760
And that is why Erica will
never.

1142
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:19,600
Be right, thank you because man.
And we are going to talk about

1143
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,880
Stranger things season 5.
But in in that episode when they

1144
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:28,080
came to her for help and she was
like y'all got 60 seconds and

1145
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,520
they they're beating around the
Bush and then they were like OK,

1146
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,560
so this is what happened This
happened da da da bang those

1147
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,280
back and blah blah blah.
She was like well why didn't

1148
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,960
y'all leave?
It's.

1149
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,320
Like, you know what, Erica is
going to handle some business

1150
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,680
and she would definitely, I
feel, be a worthy adversary for

1151
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,560
Penny Wise.
So I don't know, some look, some

1152
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,040
fan fiction authors go go write
that story.

1153
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,800
Go write that story.
I need, I need a battle between

1154
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:03,200
Erica Vechner and Penny Wise.
Penny wise, you were shriveled

1155
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,160
up so quick.
Oh yeah, she would have been

1156
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,680
like.
This, all the fear that he had

1157
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,960
collected, she would just suck
it right back out of him.

1158
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,040
Yeah, he'd be like, oh wait, I'm
scared.

1159
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,560
What?
What is this feeling?

1160
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,160
OK, and on that note, that is it
for our show.

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01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,480
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1162
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,800
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1163
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,480
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1164
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,440
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1165
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,080
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1166
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,840
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01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,760
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