IT: Welcome to Derry (Season 1 Episode 6) - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #387

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What's up, hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Anthony, Michelle and our
newest official team member,

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Dina.
Yeah, and Dina is now officially

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a part of the Fandom Hybrid
podcast after we've been like

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just kind of snatching her up
for everything over the last few

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years.
So welcome, Dina.

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Thank you.
Hey, so exciting.

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It's.
Fun.

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She can bring that wealth of
vampire knowledge to the

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podcast.
Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Wealth of vampire knowledge.
Or just the wealth of trivia

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knowledge.
Trivia because she's a trivia

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girl.
But let me just tell you, I've

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been planning to get some folks
here lately.

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Then I'm like bro y'all get out
of the house at.

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All OK, so before we get into
our episode, for our viewers who

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don't know that much about you,
tell us a little bit about

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yourself.
Oh yeah.

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Cool.
So OK, I'm Dina and I'm a nerd.

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We've known each other, all of
us, about 16-17 years, probably

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more at this final number, man.
But I, I love trivia.

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So that's what I do for fun is I
learn things so I can remember

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them and win and beat people.
And my favorite thing to do is

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go on game shows.
And so I'm trying to get on some

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more and I've been on four so
far I've only lost on one.

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Oh, that's that's.
A good track record.

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Right I'm.
You betting 75?

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Yeah, I, I, I'm pretty proud.
I'm really proud.

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I can't live.
I'm pretty proud.

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I definitely, but the and the
one I lost on wasn't really

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trivia.
So that's also I I realize I

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need to stay away from stuff
that's not like in my wheelhouse

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because like unless it's just
for like, you know, for fun, I'm

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too competitive to do things and
actually like lose.

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That does not feel.
Good she is.

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I have been on her.
We we have done Harry Potter

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trivia together on many other
occasions.

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Look, you, you're the one.
You're the reason why I had to

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get my Harry Potter trivia
knowledge up.

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Girl what you talking about
like?

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Yeah, Hanukkah used to crush
everybody.

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Oh my gosh, Like it was like
Harry Potter encyclopedia.

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And I was just like, oh, I can't
mess with her.

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Yeah, it's like we go we we went
to the Harry Potter trivia and

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she's going read the books in a
decade and she's in there

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answering every question.
It was like, wait, what do you

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mean you haven't read?
You've only missed the one

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question.
I said believe me, I remember

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more than I forgot that, you
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Doesn't jog, you know, once they
jog your memory of something or

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connect something, you know, it
comes out.

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If it's in there, it's in there.
But yeah, I had to, like, get my

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hair.
Oh, man, I couldn't even, you

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know, I came to the group of
people with only movie knowledge

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because I hadn't read the books
when I first came.

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So I had to get jumped into the
gang.

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I had to, yeah.
Yeah.

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How do you prepare?
I have a quick interview

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question.
So how do you prepare for your

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game shows?
What's your preparation?

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So whatever the game show is, I
watch like every episode

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basically.
I watch what the other players

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do and what the one that like
the ones that win, I study them.

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I go play trivia like at the
bars and stuff, and I play.

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There's a site called Sporkle
that's really popular for.

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Trivia I remember.
Playoffs sparkle and just

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anywhere I could find trivia I
watched YouTube videos of trivia

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contest the people just doing
regular trivia and just answer

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questions and just try to
remember things.

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And, and to be fair, a lot of
stuff that I, I just remember

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comes from watching movies and
TV.

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Like if I watched a movie more
than one time, I, you know, I'm

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catching all these things.
And then somewhere in the ether,

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this question comes out of
nowhere.

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And it's because I watched that
movie that same week, you know

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what I mean?
Like, that kind of stuff

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happens.
So yeah, but like I said, I got

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to get my game up because I'm
playing against more people who,

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like, are like, so into it and
so good that like, I'm looking

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stupid.
So I'm like, OK, like we.

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Can't have that.
We can't have that.

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So yeah, I'm.
But I'm excited and I hope that

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some more games come up.
Hopefully I can get on some

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games that I want to be on.
And yeah, so that's pretty much

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me.
OK, well, you know, welcome

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officially, officially, and
we're going to jump into some

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Welcome to Dairy Episode 6.
I have.

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OK, so I have I have two things.
OK, yeah, let's start it.

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I already, I already, I bet you
already know what one of them is

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because I think, yeah, we had a
little I, I think, I think, I

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think I know.
Yeah.

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What you going to talk about?
Oh yeah, so, well, it's 2 little

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things.
Number one, if my name is Dick

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Halloran and I tell you to leave
me the fucking alone.

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Leave me for.
That's number one.

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Leroy is kissing me off in this
episode.

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He really was.
Leroy Leroy Rare bro Think.

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About it, he was afraid of him
at 1st and now he's telling you

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to get the hell long get out of
my face and he ain't scared of

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you no more.
Brother he got bigger.

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He.
Got bigger fish to fry, right?

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Now, right like the dead soldier
with the, with the, with his

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head halfway blowing off behind
you, like you.

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You ain't that scary now, Sir.
OK, and, and, and #2 I'm a need

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for Lily to tighten it up.
You got to tighten it up, girl.

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You got to pull yourself
together and tighten it.

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I understand there's a lot of
trauma.

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I understand there's a lot of
stuff going on, but I just need

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you to pull it together.
Do you think that do you think

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the artifact is affecting her?
I believe though, yes, I think

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so, yes.
I mean because it it.

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Yeah, it is.
It's.

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Like I can't let it go.
I can't let it go.

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She.
Was giving off those vibes and I

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was just like.
And then she looking like she

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just have no life.
So I'm like, yeah, yeah, what is

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happening?
All I know is when she was

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riding a bike down the street
after her confrontation and she

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screamed, I felt that.
I felt it, I really did.

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And I felt.
So bad for her because I was

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just like this girl just needs a
break like she has nobody in her

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like her friends done kind of
you know ostracized her.

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Now this person that she thought
she could trust, she finds out

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is.
Is crazy.

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It's a vegetable.
Yeah, we're going to have to

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talk about Miss Kirsch because.
Those, those are my, those are

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my two things.
I looked at her in one way the

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first time I watched the
episode, and then the second

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time I watched the episode, I
was feeling a little more

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sympathetic towards her because
yeah, we'll, we'll get into her.

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'Cause I mean, I'll tell you
some, some was not right with

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that one from day one.
There's so many layers to her,

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to her story.
So, so let's just let's just go

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to the beginning.
Let's start with her in the

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beginning because when the
episode starts we get a

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flashback to, I think it was
1936 was the flashback. 35.

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Was it 35?
It definitely has to be at least

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27 years prior because he's
awake.

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Right.
But OK, so here's the other

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thing.
We know his cycle is every 27

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years.
Do we know approximately how

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long that cycle lasts, like from
the time he first shows up to

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the time he goes to sleep?
Do we know what that time period

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is?
27-O Tomorrow.

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When he's awake, how long I.
Kind of feel like the Native

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Americans when they were talking
about the augury the in the

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other episode, I feel like they
might have talked about that,

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but I don't remember a specific
time.

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See, that's what I was trying to
figure out because.

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Because I think when the when
the show, when the show started,

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he was waking up.
Yes, and that was January

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because that's when Maddie
disappeared, right And then this

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was April when we first meet the
other kids.

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Well, the the ones who ended up,
you know, Teddy and and and

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Phil.
Yes, Phil.

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Oh OK, it says not.
Yes, it does say 1935 at the

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beginning so OK so AI says pen.
Wise is awake for roughly one to

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two years.
Oh, no, you imagine.

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Oh, that is horrifying.
OK.

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That's horrifying, guys.
And it depends.

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And it says it's it's it depends
on.

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What happens, right, Because
like when you look at Georgie

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that drew in the Losers Club,
that incident.

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So it has to be something I
guess to drive them in and

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whoever he picks and then the
more kids they bring in and then

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that kind of thing.
Yeah, because by the time we

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jumped in the Georgia story,
they had already been a bunch of

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kids missing for the last, Yeah,
for the last year or so.

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Yeah, OK, and this is the thing
because even watching this

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particular episode with the kids
going to the tower after I like

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literally you guys just got out
the sewers.

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Y'all almost died, why are your
parents still letting y'all go

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outside like Will?
I understand because Will took

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off.
He got into an argument with his

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dad.
He was like oh you going to put

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your hands on me?
I'm right?

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Oh my God then dad online has
been a nightmare.

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And mom, did they did they even
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Do you know where your child is?
10:00 PM commercial.

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They don't know what's happening
to their kids, but you think

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they would know because kids
have been.

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There's a curfew.
Clearly these kids ain't keeping

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up with the curfew.
They especially these kids, they

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aren't The thing is, is the.
Your child.

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Child tried to cut her eye out,
right?

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Do you know where she at?
No, we need to watch.

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Her but.
You got one.

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We can't forget that child whose
dad is on the run from the law.

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Why, you know?
Grandma in that chair, she keep

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dozing in and out, reading her
Bible, script, scriptures, OK.

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But we can't.
We can't forgive.

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We can't forgive that.
It does influence everybody in

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the town.
That's true.

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They make them time forget to
have children.

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I did the.
Kind of.

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People did not really care.
Worry, yeah.

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Yeah.
Because like, for real, my child

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missing the eye Dang near and
she she ain't getting out of my

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house, right?
Not to mention, OK, my child is

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missing the eye because she
doesn't try to cut her eye out

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in the school because quote UN
quote, her glass is broke.

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OK.
Not only that you are friends

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with the town, quote UN quote
crazy girl, the one who was with

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the other missing kids when the
when the theater got bloody and

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you're hanging with the daughter
of the guy that's suspected of

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killing said missing kids that
were in the theater when the

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theater got blessed.
I guess it's, I guess it has to

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be the influence because no way.
Parents talk, and back in them

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days, parents used to.
Your daughter needs to stop

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being around Negros, that
murderer.

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You know that would have been
the call from like 12 other

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parents, right?
Yeah.

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No, right, especially since we
see everybody in this town ain't

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quite as Oh yeah, we're
accepting of the the Negroes as

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we claim to be because.
Yeah.

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What it what?
Yeah, it's got it.

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It has to be penny wise because
other than that, I cannot think

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of why these.
But like we joke about the whole

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thing, you know?
It's 10:00.

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Do you know where your parents
are?

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It's a joke.
But at the same time, y'all

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don't know shit about your
children and what's going on.

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I mean we do the same thing with
Stranger Things too, but like.

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Like, and we may be joking, but
they really did have a campaign

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about where do you know where
your kids are at 10:00 but.

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Even that was in the 80s.
This is the 60s.

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Right.
But I just want to say a lot of

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that stuff didn't come until
like after Adam Walsh got

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kidnapped.
Right, because they're like, as

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long as the kids come home,
yeah.

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But I, I guess it's just,
there's so many things about

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this that's just so unsettling.
And one, the fact that you are

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in the 60s to the fact that
y'all, you know, for all of your

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outside acceptance or whatever,
you know, it's white folks in

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that town looking around at
these kids.

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Like, why are these white kids
hanging with these black kids?

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Tough.
Hang with them.

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Tough.
Constantly, night or day.

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Right, like y'all getting in all
kinds of trouble and y'all are

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always together.
You know, that wouldn't

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generally fly.
So it's, you're right, Anthony.

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It's not Pennywise's influence.
Well technically enabled so I

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guess 2 white girls 11 because
everybody else is a minority.

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Rich is Hispanic, Hispanic is
black, Will is black, Lily white

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but she crazy so she don't
count.

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And Marge is a Patty cake.
So, so far, Marge is a Patty

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cake, you know.
Not anymore.

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Not after that.
So before.

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That she was a Patty cake and
she was kind of covered so

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right, and she wasn't really
hanging with them until later.

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Yeah.
So yeah, yeah, that's true.

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After after she was targeted by
Penny Wise, Yeah.

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But OK.
So going back to the timeline

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1935, we get black and white at
Juniper Hill.

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You have the little girl in
Jennifer Hill and you have her

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being LED downstairs by a nurse.
I was like, if y'all are about

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to tell me the nurse, Nurse
Kirch, was actually feeding

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these children to Pennywise
because I really thought that's

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what they were about to show.
Us.

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I thought so too.
I was like, because, because

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even though they don't show you
her face at first, when she

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tells the little girl, when she
gives her a hand and she says

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there's nothing to worry about,
he said.

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That sounds like Miss Kirsch.
Oh, the subtitles say Ingrid.

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I was like, oh, that's miss.
Kirsch See, I didn't, I didn't

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even watch it the first time
with subtitles because my

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subtitles have been they've been
a little bit ahead of what the

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dialogue is.
So I turned them off because I

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was like, I don't want to get,
you know, I don't want to get

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spoiled that way.
So I didn't see a name.

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I heard heard her voice.
And I was like, that's Miss

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Kirsch.
I said, is she feeding these

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children to this thing?
And then when you get

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downstairs, you know, she's
trying to tell the little girl

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Mabel, she was like, see,
there's nothing going on.

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And she was like, is this where
you saw Pennywise?

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And the little girl says, yes,
he told me to come down into the

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into the into the basement.
And then she looks up and

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there's a red balloon there, of
course.

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Red balloon.
You see Pennywise come out and

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then they cut away from it.
I was like, y'all gonna make us

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sit here and think about this
all episode long.

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Like whether or not this woman,
because at this point, even just

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the way she was talking to the
child, something seemed off.

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And I know we were talking in
the last episode because from

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from the moment we meet her, we
all said something ain't right

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about this woman.
Then in the last episode, we

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found out that she was the one
sleeping with Hank Grogan.

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So we were like, oh, that's
probably it.

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She was just, you know, she
being sketchy because she's

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sleeping with a black man.
No, like the top of this episode

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I was like, back to my original.
Something ain't right with her.

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I'm not going to lie, a lot of
my assumptions about how her

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being not right, it was still
tied to the movie where she was

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acting all crazy.
Well, that wasn't her, but that

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was still her.
Yeah, yeah.

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See, I don't see.
I don't remember the movie

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because it's been years since
I've seen it and I've only seen

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it once, so I have no
recollection of it.

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I almost watched it this weekend
and like I was telling Michelle

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and Dana prior to US recording,
I started watching several

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things this weekend and I just
couldn't stick with.

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I couldn't focus.
I was getting bored.

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So like I only got to maybe when
when Beverly first meets Ben and

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and she's walking off at the
school after she signs his

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yearbook.
That's as far as I got because I

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was like, OK, I just, I can't
concentrate.

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So I remember nothing of Miss
Kirsch from the movie.

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Yeah, because in that scene it
shows you the pictures.

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It was like Bev looked around
and saw the pictures of of her

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father.
I don't remember that.

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Yeah, you you got to watch it in
the.

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Original movie, she goes to her
old house and that's the lady

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that's in her old house, ain't
it?

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I think she said that because
what?

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What was Bella?
I forget Bev's last name.

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Marsh.
Marsh.

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Yeah, that was the house.
And then she.

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Thought she saw was Marsh but
then she saw it was cursed and.

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She was like, oh, I thought it
said Marsh.

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Yes, yes, you're right.
So that first part of the

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episode, I'm sitting here
looking, I'm like, OK, something

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right with her.
Like is she feeding Pennywise?

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Like, because I don't, I think I
recall him really having like

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anybody helping him except for I
think whoever it was, Henry

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Bauer.
Henry Bauer.

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Henry.
And I think there was one other

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person who was kind of seeing
him and I think he was kind of

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manipulating him, but nobody
that was just like, here, let me

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bring you breakfast.
I don't think we've seen that.

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So watching it at the beginning,
I was I was confused.

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And then later on in the
episode, you know, the kids go

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through their thing, Lily and
we'll we'll get into that.

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Lily, you know, she shows them
the artifact that saved her down

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in the sewers.
She's like, OK, well, he seems

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scared of this.
We can go after him and kill

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him.
Ronnie is like, hold up, you

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almost got us killed already and
now you want us to go back And

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she, she goes off, calls her.
Crazy says they should have kept

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you in Juniper Hill.
They have this big blowout,

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right?
So Lily, after that, she rides

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her bike to go see Miss Kirsch
because that's the person who

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she goes to when she has some
issues, when she has troubles.

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Now, the first thing that made
me worried and I had to remind

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myself this is the 60s.
They kind of sort of did this.

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If the woman don't answer the
door, don't go in the fucking

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house.
Just just don't.

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Don't care that the door is
open.

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I don't care if you knock in it.
Usually if you knock.

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You know I would never do that.
No, no, no.

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Even with people I'm close to,
unless you call me and say I'm

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coming to your house and I say
the front door is open, just

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walk on in.
No, especially not for an

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unexpected visit because again,
60s, even when we were children,

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you didn't call before you went
to somebody's house.

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You just went to somebody's
house, right?

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But she goes in and she opens
the door and she goes in.

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Hello, is anybody here?
And nobody answered.

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Guess what?
That's time for you to turn

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around and go home.
Because who knows, who knows

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what happened, It could be some
dude in there stabbing her 4855

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times.
It could be Mr. Kirsch in there

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in his boxers with a beer can
talking about make sure my steak

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is is done right.
She don't know.

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No, you you really don't know.
But she proceeds to go upstairs

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to the to the attic.
And when she gets to the attic,

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there's a there's a record
player playing a record.

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She goes to a table, she sees a
photograph book, then she opens

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the photograph book.
I'm like, so we just invading

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folks privacy.
Just yes.

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All Willy nilly, yes.
Is that is what we do?

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Is this is what we do?
Because you just, you're, you're

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mighty comfortable.
You're a little too comfortable.

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And then I start thinking, I was
like, oh, you know what?

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I was like, maybe Pennywise is
pulling her in.

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I was like, maybe that was the
influence.

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But no, she's just a little girl
who very naively, she's just

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like, this is my friend.
This is somebody I can trust.

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That's the kind of relationship
they have.

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Yeah, and she was like, she told
me I can come and talk to her

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whenever I need to talk to her.
So I'm going to go talk to her,

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OK.
But you just don't walk in in

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her house.
Yeah.

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So she goes through the
photographs and she sees like

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all these old pictures of Miss
Kirsch and.

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Oh wait, wait, I just had a
thought.

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It is possible she could have
done it before she told her just

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come on in if the door is open
'cause I I have a feeling this

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is not the first time she's been
over there.

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Does this know where she lived?
No, and and and I get that part.

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I guess the the part, the
rational part of my brain is

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saying even though we know
Kirsch and Hank Grogan are a

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thing, why would you leave your
door just open when a quote UN

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quote serial killer is on the
loose?

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Especially when you have the
husband that you have.

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Well, they let me come on now,
the answer that question is

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easy.
They have relationships and and.

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Oh, you talking about but you're
talking about the clown or a

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serial.
Killer No, I'm talking about her

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just in general.
Like if you are, if you are in

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the town of Derry and you know,
like everybody is saying, hey,

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we have this, this kid killer
even though she's not a kid, we

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have this kid Killer.
He's escaped.

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We don't know where he is.
It's it's one of those things

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where even if she doesn't think
to do it because she she already

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knows where he is, Her husband
might be like, you need to make

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sure the door is locked.
Yeah, but he ain't there.

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He, he had the butcher shop
butchering and you know, people

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and then and then in Derry
around the time everybody doors

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unlocked.
Yeah.

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Nobody, nobody liked.
They're so close to Canada.

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People in Canada don't like
their doors.

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I mean sorry Canadians, but it's
true.

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Any Canadians there listening
please direct all emails to HMR

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Potter.
No, absolutely not.

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Absolutely not.
You go to Mission too?

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Absolutely not.
But so I don't know.

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The whole thing was just weird
about her being able to go in

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the house.
But then she gets in.

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She sees the photographs, the
photo album, she starts looking

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through the pictures.
She sees old pictures of Miss

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Curse.
She sees pictures of what may be

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her mom.
And then she flips the page.

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She sees a picture of her dad.
And I don't think she realizes

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that is Miss Kirsch's dad.
At first.

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She just noticed this guy looks
a lot like this clown that I

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just almost got killed by, you
know, with, with the with the

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smile.
And he has the unusually large

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head and, you know, those
distinguishing features.

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And then you see the picture
next to it of a young Miss

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Kirsch with her dad.
And then this is when Miss

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Kirsch actually comes upstairs.
And she's like, hey, what are

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you doing?
Oh, I'm sorry.

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You told me I could come by and
the door was open and she was

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like, no, that's fine.
I just wasn't expecting anybody.

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You don't know what she could
have been doing.

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She could have been in the
shower, which again, if she was

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doing all that stuff, her door
should have been fucking locked.

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But.
Yeah.

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You don't.
You just don't know what's going

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on.
So she comes in and and she

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looks at Lily.
Lily already looks spooked

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because she's spooked by the
fact that she's seen the picture

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with curses, Dad.
So she's asking her like, are

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you OK?
Is everything all right?

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And she was like, yeah, I just.
I didn't know where else to go.

448
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,360
We went down to the sewers, and
it was a mess.

449
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:23,040
And, you know, Teddy was
actually, I mean, Maddie was

450
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,800
actually dead.
And I wish she didn't say it,

451
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,280
but she inferred it.
Miss Kirsch.

452
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,440
Understood.
Gives her a hug.

453
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,760
And then this is when it really
starts getting creepy because

454
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,200
even the way she's hugging her,
she's like, oh, it's OK, you're

455
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,320
safe.
I was like, she looks really

456
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,120
weird doing that.
It was just, it was a, it wasn't

457
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:51,120
just a comforting hug.
It was borderline creepy at that

458
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:57,400
point.
And then Lily sees behind her

459
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,760
and there's a picture of her dad
in the Pennywise pasta.

460
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:09,280
So she kind of steps back and
Miss Curse realizes she seen the

461
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,640
picture.
And she says, you've seen them.

462
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,800
I said, oh, here we go.
Here we go.

463
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,720
The descendants of madness.
What fuckery are they about to

464
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,760
pull out their ass now?
Because I at this point, I

465
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,760
didn't know what to expect.
I was like, OK, she knows

466
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,800
Pennywise.
We we kind of knew that from the

467
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,440
start of the first, you know,
the start of the episode, but I

468
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,720
didn't know where it was going
to go.

469
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:52,040
I this this woman, she's like,
yeah, you saw him.

470
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,520
Well, and she starts talking
crazy.

471
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,560
She's like, I, I had, I had to,
I had to, I had to do what I

472
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,920
needed to do in order to see
him.

473
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,120
And I knew your, I knew that
you, I should have known you

474
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:05,200
would be the one to bring him
out.

475
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,200
Looking at her like, what the
fuck are you talking about?

476
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,000
And then she starts putting
things together.

477
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:16,600
Wait, that was you in the
graveyard because she sees Miss

478
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,680
Kirsch's old clown uniform, the
one that we saw in the other

479
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:26,440
episode.
I was just like, how was this

480
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,000
about to go?
Yeah, and then she said

481
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,600
something like, he's in there, I
just need to get him out.

482
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:36,640
And that was the thing I was
talking about when I watched it

483
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,760
on the second, the second
viewing, because the first

484
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,320
viewing when she was talking
about Pennywise and that's her

485
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,280
dad and stuff, I was like, oh,
she is really gone.

486
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,000
Then I really paid attention to
her the second viewing and she

487
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,680
said he's a little different,
but he's still there.

488
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,520
And I just knew maybe, maybe he
saw, if he saw me as his

489
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,360
periwinkle, if I remind him of
the bond that we had, then I

490
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,560
would be able to help him.
I would be able to get him out.

491
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,760
And I was like, oh, she thinks
her dad is trapped, which he

492
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:16,200
probably, technically speaking,
he probably is technically, but

493
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,440
the.
They either get eaten or they

494
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,880
float.
Well, no, but what I'm saying is

495
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,080
he still he still has his, his
memory and I guess kind of his

496
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,360
essence because she said she
could feel it and and that's

497
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,960
probably on.
Purpose, she said.

498
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600
No, no, no.
What I'm saying is Penny Wise

499
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,560
once once Penny Wise identified
who she was because later in the

500
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,760
episode we.
Yeah, when he's looking for

501
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,040
that.
Confrontation.

502
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,040
She's like Papa, he starts
laughing.

503
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,600
And then he uses that later on
to kind of draw her in.

504
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,560
He realizes who he is.
Yeah, maybe he's still using

505
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,320
that to influence her, you know.
Or he just reaches into her

506
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,080
memories like you do everybody.
Or that, yeah.

507
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,240
He's just, he's just it, it, it
is just like, oh, let me see

508
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,200
what's in your head.
Why, Why are you looking at me

509
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,840
like this?
Oh, he sees it, sees all this,

510
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,520
all the stuff about her dad and
it, it makes a connection.

511
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,520
But if he killed her dad, then
he would have he would have

512
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,600
dad's memories too.
Not necessarily.

513
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,640
You don't think so?
No, I don't think that's how it

514
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,200
works.
OK.

515
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:35,400
But yeah, it's so crazy because
she starts, she starts talking

516
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,520
and she starts telling Lily the
story about what happened.

517
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,680
So we go back to the hospital.
We see her and Mabel Pennywise

518
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,320
actually comes to them and
starts talking to Mabel.

519
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,320
And he was like, oh, and you
bought brought a friend.

520
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,280
And when she says Papa, he
starts laughing.

521
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,840
Then he gets ready to attack
them.

522
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,920
They take off running.
Now they get separated because

523
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,400
of course, she's a grown up.
She's running a little bit

524
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,640
faster than the little girl.
And she did the the trip, yeah.

525
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,480
Does the trip that everybody
does, you running for your life?

526
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,040
You just trip and fall.
She trips and falls.

527
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,960
Miss Kirsch is on one side of
the door, Mabel is on the other

528
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,680
side, and the door, of course,
closes.

529
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:23,240
You have Pennywise come up and
Kirsch is begging him to leave

530
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,080
the little girl alone and you
hear him start to eat.

531
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,480
Like literally.
I did not need to hear that.

532
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,960
And.
It's very sad because it's

533
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:42,200
crunch, crunch and then blood
and you're because crunch,

534
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,560
crunch, crunch and blood and
then you get up and lose your

535
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,640
damn mind.
I.

536
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,680
Think somebody was already lost?
Helped.

537
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,200
Her break?
Somebody was already gone.

538
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,200
Because what the hell?
Ain't no way I'm seeing the

539
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,400
child.
I can't get to him something and

540
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,360
then something eats the child.
And then there's blood on the

541
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,160
floor.
I'm not out.

542
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,800
Right.
Right.

543
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,280
And then when you stand up, who
was on the other side of the

544
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,000
door?
Your father.

545
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,520
Yeah.
Like he literally changed into

546
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,600
what her father was and she
really thought that was her dad.

547
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,400
He was talking to her.
He was like, it's mean.

548
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,760
Open the door so you can so you
can see.

549
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,080
I was like, bitch.
For Bill Skarsgard for being

550
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:36,000
amazing because I would never
like if I just wasn't a like a

551
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,520
movie fan and I just didn't know
what actors look like.

552
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,720
I wouldn't think that was Bill
Skarsgard.

553
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Like he transforms.
His whole everything transforms.

554
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,960
It's insane.
Yeah, insane.

555
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,080
But but she continues telling
Lily the story.

556
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,680
She was like, you know, she said
it was, it was still my father,

557
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,320
maybe just a little different.
Bitch, he ate a child.

558
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,680
How different can you get?
But she was like, he's just a

559
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,600
little bit different.
But I knew that if I could, you

560
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,920
know, if I could see him again,
I could help him.

561
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,560
And, and she's literally in the
hospital and she sees the

562
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,040
balloon outside the window and
she's thinking all this time,

563
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,520
how can I get him to come back?
How can I get him to come back?

564
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,920
And so I was, so the first time
I watched this, I was thinking,

565
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,320
I was like, OK, so she's been
planning all this all along.

566
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,800
And then when I watched it again
today, I don't think that's the

567
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,440
case.
I think her being her being a

568
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,840
mentor to Lily, I think that was
genuine to a point.

569
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Now, the fact that she works in
the hospital and that's where

570
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,280
she first encountered Pennywise,
I think maybe that's why she

571
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,320
took a, a, a liking to Lily a
little bit more because she was

572
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,840
like, Oh, Lily might be one of
the people that can see my dad,

573
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:10,080
you know, But I think for for
apart, she was genuine with Lily

574
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,920
because even when Lily says
don't hurt me, she said, Oh, I

575
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,719
would never, I would, I would
never let anything hurt you.

576
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,960
That's you, but your friends?
Fuck them kids.

577
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,440
Right.
Literally, I would never hurt

578
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,000
you but your.
Friends, your friends are fair

579
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,560
game.
They're not.

580
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:34,560
Well, she said it.
No, she did, and without saying

581
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,440
it.
She, I think she was sincere

582
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:44,040
with Lily and then I think up to
a certain point, she was sincere

583
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:49,679
about Hank because I don't think
she was even think I, I don't

584
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:53,159
know if I feel like she was even
thinking about the whole

585
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,600
Pennywise thing when her and
Hank was messing around, because

586
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,400
remember, they were messing
around the night the kids got

587
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:05,160
killed.
So the whole thing at the end of

588
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:10,280
the episode where the, the,
where the police chief says, Oh,

589
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,800
we know where Hank Grogan is.
We had a anonymous tip from a,

590
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,160
from a woman.
I was like, Oh, you know what?

591
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,400
That was her because what did
she tell Lily now, especially

592
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,520
now that she knows that
Pennywise is there, she's like,

593
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,800
I'm going to do whatever I have
to do to set him free.

594
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,640
And I know how I can do that.
And I was like, you know what?

595
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,640
See where this is going?
So.

596
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,240
When they show her like after
she after little girl dies or

597
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:40,600
whatever and she is in the
hospital and there's another kid

598
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,000
that's like flipping out and,
and you see the balloon go by

599
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,200
the window.
I feel like at that point is

600
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,880
where she realized, like, you
know what, maybe if I get this

601
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,680
kid down there and in the, in
the basement, maybe he'll eat

602
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,320
that kid and come back again.
Or, you know, like, 'cause she

603
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,640
was just staring at the balloon,
but she it was a kid there and I

604
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,520
was like.
And.

605
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,280
She was smiling like, excited
like.

606
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,360
She had an aha moment when she
saw that balloon like.

607
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,480
Oh, wait, yeah, I felt like
that's she was like these

608
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,400
children, they might be worth
something after all.

609
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:26,480
I'm not completely convinced
that this that this wasn't I'm

610
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,040
OK.
I'm I'm not going to say the

611
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:33,000
black spot was part of her plan,
but I'm sure she was trying to

612
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:42,200
think of ways to pivot her
relationship with Grogan to lead

613
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,800
to this point.
The black spot just happened to

614
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,600
be real convenient for it, but I
I feel like at some point she

615
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,040
would have set him up because he
is a black man fooling with a

616
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,840
white woman and you obviously
the butcher is involved so.

617
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,360
So maybe she was going to like
out them that they were together

618
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,480
at some.
Point she's going to out them at

619
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,160
some point and I think that it
just so happened everything you

620
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,600
fill in the place.
Yeah, because for her for for

621
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,040
for the black spot.
But I think at some point she

622
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,360
was going to out him and and
there was going to be a lynch

623
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,800
mile, right?
Because see, I was thinking

624
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,360
about that like when.
If Penny was asleep, would you

625
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,480
think she would do that still?
Well, that's the thing, I don't

626
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,800
think she, but I think she had a
feeling he was there.

627
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,400
She just didn't know how to get
to him.

628
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,760
Yeah, right.
And I think that's what she was

629
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,920
figuring out when she was
sitting there with Lily, because

630
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,080
Lily was like, yeah, we've seen
him.

631
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,440
He's he came after us.
He's taking the chill.

632
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,160
Like what?
She knew she was like, oh, OK,

633
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,840
so he's here now.
I got to figure out how to do

634
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,760
this.
Because my thing was, I was

635
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:58,760
thinking, if Hank had not
mentioned Charlotte to her and

636
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,840
said, hey, I know somebody who
can help, would she still have

637
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,600
been on that trajectory?
Like, the only reason why she

638
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,840
knew where he was was because
they reached out to Charlotte.

639
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Charlotte got him somewhere
safe, and she had something that

640
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,400
she could now use because nobody
else knew that she knew.

641
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:22,240
Right.
I'm just saying like up until up

642
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:29,920
until Phil and Teddy and I guess
Susie were killed, they were

643
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,320
having a relationship.
So had that not happened, the

644
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,440
trajectory still could have been
she was going to create this

645
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,720
lynch mob and chaos because she
she has to know.

646
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:47,480
That's what if she has been
around long enough to know that

647
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,920
he has a cycle, you know what
I'm saying?

648
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,720
But I don't know if she.
Yeah.

649
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,920
I don't know if she would put it
together in that way.

650
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,920
Not in that way, but in a way
that she would know that she

651
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,960
could bring him out.
Well, like, not that he has a

652
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,080
cycle, but she probably did
notice that when stuff start

653
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,840
happening to the children again,
that this has happened before,

654
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,080
you know, like back in the day
with the little girl.

655
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,640
And I'm sure there was other
kids outside the the in there

656
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,480
that were just going missing or
whatever.

657
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,400
And she was like, and then when
it started happening, like

658
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,920
heavily just kids getting killed
for no damn reason, it probably

659
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,080
did Click to her that, hey, this
was happening the last time, you

660
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,200
know, because I don't know that
she knows specifically.

661
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,080
It's a cycle.
And every 27 years he comes

662
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,920
back.
But she noticed probably the

663
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,080
pattern of children.
Yeah.

664
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,360
But but she was going to have
that affair.

665
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,520
It has nothing to do with
Pennywise.

666
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,120
I don't believe that.
Yeah.

667
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,160
Oh.
You met her husband.

668
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,240
I did, but I also I also know
her too.

669
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,840
Yeah, but I I think that it, it
was that was just pleasure now.

670
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,000
That was pleasure.
Then when the kid, when he got

671
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,280
killed, she's.
Like, right.

672
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,400
And then he's like, oh, and now
this can help me.

673
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,880
And Lily is saying that she's
seen him and.

674
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,760
And I'm following these kids
around.

675
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Oh, yeah, I'm putting them in
danger.

676
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,480
Yeah.
Because.

677
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,640
If you think about it, when
we'll just agree to disagree and

678
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,280
maybe she.
Was trying to have some fun I'm.

679
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,360
Just like she's just like
danger.

680
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,720
She likes to flirt with danger
and and dangerous situations.

681
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:26,320
So doesn't.
Make sense?

682
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,560
She doesn't even think that
dealing with Pennywise is

683
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,280
dangerous.
She she thinks that's her dad

684
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,760
for real, so she doesn't think
it's dangerous.

685
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,160
She thinks her dad is has.
Been taken.

686
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,080
Yeah, it needs to be helped out.
She knows that That thing is

687
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,080
children.
Right.

688
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,320
But that's just the case, she
thinks.

689
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,560
Her dad's in there somewhere and
she can get him out.

690
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,080
Right.
But you know what I mean?

691
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,400
It's just kids.
For her, yeah.

692
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,720
Yeah, I mean it.
It is.

693
00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,200
Let's.
Just agree that.

694
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,200
Got nothing to do with.
Because because the way I, the

695
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:07,000
way I feel, I feel like whatever
she had with Hank was genuine on

696
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,720
her part until she factored her
dad in.

697
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:13,960
Because it's like, OK, I might
love this, You know, I might

698
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,960
like this man.
I might even love this man.

699
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,280
But do I love him more than I
want to see my father alive

700
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,560
again?
And I think at that point she

701
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,640
made the decision.
She was like, oh, so maybe if I

702
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,400
call some kind of chaos, maybe
if I do this, it'll happen now.

703
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,480
I don't know.
See, I don't trust her.

704
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,360
I don't think that she is a
genuine person except to Lily,

705
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:43,360
but even that was still colored
by her own motivations.

706
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,280
So I don't know if anything
about this woman is genuine.

707
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,320
I really don't.
I mean now no but but.

708
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,360
No, I mean even her the whole
way.

709
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,400
Disappeared.
Whatever.

710
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,960
The whole way, the whole way
she's been operating.

711
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,080
I don't think anything she has
done has been dreaming.

712
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,200
You don't.
Think so?

713
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,440
OK.
No, I mean it was.

714
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:02,880
Really.
That everything.

715
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,760
About in 1935, she started
feeding children.

716
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,240
No, no, no.
And that's what I'm saying I.

717
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:09,040
Can see that as far as the kids
but I'm thinking.

718
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,080
But I'm like Michelle, if you
thinking about just her being an

719
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,600
adult, I think Hank just
happened to be.

720
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,520
It just happened to be an
opportunity that dropped in her

721
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,560
lap.
But I think at first it was just

722
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,920
fun.
It was an escape from her

723
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,320
husband.
It was something she was doing

724
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,280
for herself.
And then when everything started

725
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:36,440
happening, she started being
like, OK, I might, maybe she

726
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,320
felt like.
This woman ain't got that

727
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,240
genuine bone in her body.
I don't understand why y'all

728
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,840
giving her all this credit.
She don't.

729
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,840
She doesn't.
Yeah, she.

730
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:56,360
Feeds children to it.
She feeds children.

731
00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:58,320
There's nothing genuine about
her.

732
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,240
Yeah, that's the thing.
Like, that's the thing about her

733
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:04,240
and Lily that kind of bothers me
is like, she saw what happened

734
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,600
to the first baby.
And I feel like after she

735
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,680
realized she was going to see
her dad again, that baby that

736
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,600
they showed in that little clip
of her seeing the balloon

737
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,000
outside, that baby that was
freaking out.

738
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,440
She was trying to get.
She was going to take that baby,

739
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,720
too and feed that baby.
Yeah.

740
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,160
You know, Yeah.
Imagine if Lily had been in the

741
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,440
hospital one more time.
She had been escorted down to

742
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,360
the basement too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

743
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,720
Because what did, what did she,
what did, what did she say?

744
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,520
Now I will say maybe not because
she didn't, because she did talk

745
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:43,560
to, she did talk to when she
talked to her about Maddie being

746
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,480
back, she did tell her.
Don't go to the police, Yeah.

747
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,920
And tell her don't go down
there.

748
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,600
Don't go down there, go to the
police.

749
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,800
She did tell her that.
So I will say that maybe she

750
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:01,040
does have a care for Lily, but
she's like your friends can go.

751
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,560
Right, right, your friends, but
you don't go.

752
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,240
You don't go, but your friends
can go, she said.

753
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:11,240
I told you not to go down there.
She was like, but my friends

754
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,880
imagine.
She looked at her, put Lily in

755
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,240
the place of like Mabel, because
it seemed like she had a decent

756
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:21,720
little something with Mabel.
Mabel trusted her.

757
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:24,600
Maybe she put her like in her
mind, that was her Mabel again.

758
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,080
You know what?
I.

759
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,840
Mean I was, I was thinking, I
was thinking a little bit of

760
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,400
that too.
I was thinking long line that

761
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,600
she sees herself and Lily.
Probably because yeah, yeah.

762
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,440
Yeah, because the father thing,
she even brings that up.

763
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,520
She was like, you should
understand, like if you, if you,

764
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,840
if you, if you had an
opportunity to see your dad

765
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,560
again, wouldn't you?
And Lily was like, my dad is

766
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,960
dead.
Probably if he hadn't tried to

767
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,280
like filet her with Pickles, she
probably would want to see him.

768
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,040
Again, that is true if he was a
whole person.

769
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,520
Like, who would want to see?
I wouldn't want to see him no

770
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,120
more after that.
And especially after you just

771
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,080
saw him again and your desk at
school.

772
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:07,240
OK.
Oh, yeah.

773
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,600
So, yeah, but they would stop
that.

774
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,080
But I but at least we see
because, you know, for for

775
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,040
everything that they keep saying
about Lily.

776
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,200
Oh, she's crazy Looney Lily
Bainbridge, blah, blah, blah.

777
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,840
Even, you know, Ronnie calling
her crazy or whatever, whatever.

778
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,600
Ronnie was mad.
She was mad.

779
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,400
But listen, Lily has some sense
at least because she's like, OK,

780
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,080
look, yes, I miss my dad.
I love my dad, but no, I'm not

781
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,680
about to do whatever to bring
him back.

782
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,760
He's dead.
He's done.

783
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,160
And what did she tell?
She said, well, you know what

784
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,800
they say about Derrick.
Things that die here.

785
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,640
Dogs don't stay dead, bitch.
If you don't go somewhere, I'm

786
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,840
going to tell you.
I'm going to tell y'all.

787
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,480
Like I told Anthony the other
day, I know I said I was going

788
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,400
to stop cussing on the podcast
so much.

789
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,840
It's not going to be with this
show.

790
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,120
I'm just going to let y'all know
that now.

791
00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:00,040
It's not, it's.
Not Dina was.

792
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,320
Dina was shouting out Bill
Scarsgard.

793
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,960
I don't want to shout out
Madeline still.

794
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,440
Yeah.
He is an amazing actress.

795
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,160
You feel good too.
She's still a good and.

796
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,320
She makes those little subtle
changes, like you can see her go

797
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,080
from sweet, caring, kind friends
to like unhinged.

798
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,480
And and it's just this, the
subtle changes she makes.

799
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,120
Is she she's really, really
good.

800
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:29,840
Yeah.
And and then the son that we

801
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,920
spent a lot of time, I was
trying to figure out how old she

802
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,240
was because she started being in
her 50s.

803
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,000
No, it's got to be 60s, sixties.
Yeah.

804
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,760
It's about the character curse.
No, I'm about Madeline.

805
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,040
Madeline.
I'm about the character.

806
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,520
Yeah, we know she's not in her
field.

807
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,440
I love it, but she's not so
much.

808
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,400
Yeah.
Because I was wondering that

809
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,240
too, because I think Anthony and
I were talking about Hank and

810
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:00,000
and and cursed when we went to
trivia this week.

811
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,560
And I was like, you know, we
had, I think we had the

812
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,080
conversation when we were trying
to figure out who The Who the

813
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,640
white woman was when he first
told about it.

814
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,320
We were talking about, well, it
could be this person.

815
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,720
It could be that person.
And I don't remember if it was

816
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,080
Anthony or if it was Michelle,
One of y'all.

817
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,200
Yeah.
Well, you know, they don't

818
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,360
necessarily have to be the same
age in this day and age in the

819
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,000
1960s, somebody could, you know,
it could be older.

820
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:26,440
Could.
Be.

821
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:33,680
Yeah, so I was like, because I'm
thinking Hank Grogan maybe in

822
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:39,760
his late 30s, early 40s.
Yeah, she got her character just

823
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,840
based on the timeline because if
she is the same, if she is the

824
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,680
same clown that we saw at the
carnival in 19 O 8 and she had

825
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,880
she looked like.
Maybe 6-7?

826
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,400
She had to be like maybe 10-11
at that point.

827
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,160
Oh, she was older, OK, I can't
remember.

828
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,600
What she, I would, I would say
she was probably maybe about

829
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,240
12/12/13 somewhere.
But even if that's the case,

830
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,960
you're talking 54 years later,
right?

831
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,600
19 O 862.
Yeah, 50.

832
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Four years later.
So you're talking she got to be

833
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,320
close to 70?
Yeah, because even though they

834
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,720
married young, the and the
husband was old, that don't mean

835
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:26,000
she had to be old, but she had.
But she's clearly older because

836
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,160
she was looking like she was at
least 2830 in that in that

837
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,240
flashback, you know?
So I was, I was wondering too, I

838
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:39,000
was like, OK, so does the fact
that she's not scared of

839
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,280
Pennywise.
And if she was helping him, like

840
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,240
we're we're just speculating.
She was feeding children to him.

841
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,560
We don't know that for a fact.
OK, But if she was doing

842
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,000
something, if she was doing
something like that, if she was

843
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,240
taking children to him with the
hopes of seeing her dad again,

844
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,680
could that be slowing down her
aging process?

845
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,920
Because she doesn't look like
she's close to 70.

846
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,000
She doesn't, you know.
I I don't think so.

847
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,560
I don't think so.
I think she's got good genes.

848
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,720
OK, let.
Me do a calculation.

849
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,280
I don't think so.
And and if you don't think that

850
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,800
seeing take no more children
down to that basement.

851
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,480
I'm just playing.
Definitely trying to get her the

852
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,960
benefit of the doubt.
I'm giving her the benefit of

853
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,920
the doubt.
And what year is this?

854
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:36,040
This is 1962. 54 and she was and
what was she in 19 O 8 maybe at

855
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,840
least.
I thought she was like 8 or 9.

856
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,800
Oh no.
But I don't say like 12 I.

857
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,400
Would say maybe 12.
Oh, no, I was going to give you.

858
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:55,760
I was going to give you like 4th
grade, that's 9 or. 8 to 10/8 to

859
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:01,640
9/9 or two, OK, but but we know
she's somewhere in that age

860
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,680
range. 60. 2 so she'll be like
early 60s or late 50s.

861
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,400
Yeah.
OK, so after that tracks.

862
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:13,200
And that does because her
husband is that old.

863
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,160
Yeah, Yeah.
And he could definitely be older

864
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,440
than her because it could be one
of those young, old marriages,

865
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,800
but I really feel like she's
closer to his age.

866
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,280
Yeah, me too.
I just so they're they're in

867
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,440
their 60s.
Yeah.

868
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,520
Yeah, but.
Ain't nothing wrong with Little

869
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,480
Old Eleven but.
I'm just I mean, and nobody

870
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,480
judging, OK, but.
But wait a minute.

871
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,120
But but Ron, Ronnie's dad, gotta
be.

872
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,960
I feel like, like Hanukkah said,
he's about 30.

873
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,760
He got to be like, I would say
late 30s, early 40s.

874
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,560
Right.
She was having fun, yeah.

875
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:50,720
OK, Yeah.
Like did she just go to the

876
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,640
movies one day and happened to
see him?

877
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,080
He happened to see her when
nobody else there.

878
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,840
And they start talking.
Little winky wink, you know.

879
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,880
Well, I mean think about it this
before.

880
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:04,960
Bone in her body.
Before all of this happened, I

881
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,640
mean, if you think about it, the
way that the townspeople, like

882
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,080
even in the first episode when
they were at the movies, people

883
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,640
were, I don't know if I want to
say respectful of him, but he

884
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,000
wasn't a bad guy.
Like he again, the cops that

885
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,360
were sitting outside his house,
they were like you really.

886
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,720
One of them was like, but he
like, you really think it's him.

887
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,200
So it's not like he was just,
you know, they just like, oh,

888
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,520
yeah, yeah.
No, it's just they probably were

889
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,880
friendly with each other.
I mean, like, like her husband

890
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,200
said to Charlotte when she first
got there, he was like small

891
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,600
town.
Everybody knows everybody.

892
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,080
They probably knew each other
for a long time.

893
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,160
Hey.
Hey, How you doing?

894
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,960
Hey, What's her name?
What'd you say her name was?

895
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,040
Which one?
Miss Kirsch on the closed

896
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,560
captions.
Anthony, you said it's Ingrid.

897
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:03,760
Ingrid.
Yeah, you know, probably really

898
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,240
friendly.
And, you know, who knows when

899
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:08,800
the stuff with her husband
started?

900
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,040
Her husband may not have always
been an ass to her, you know.

901
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,640
And I just thought about
something.

902
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,400
She might not have started that
thing with Hank until Maddie got

903
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,840
taken, and that might have cued
her.

904
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,320
That might be how she knew it
was starting again.

905
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,480
Because, you know, since it was
four months between us meeting

906
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:32,200
the other kids and Maddie's, you
know, whatever had happened to

907
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,440
Maddie, right?
Maybe then that.

908
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:41,120
Goes back to Anthony's Anthony's
theory or assumption that she

909
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,520
just ain't been right the whole
time.

910
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,760
The whole time because that they
immediately start looking at

911
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,440
Hank as because he was at the
movie theater and all that

912
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,840
stuff.
So they was immediately looking

913
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,080
at him anyway, because I feel
like they had mentioned that

914
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,880
before, even before the before
the theater thing, the the big

915
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,200
theater thing happened.
I feel like they were already

916
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,240
like.
They already they already had

917
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,480
got him and questioned him
about.

918
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,240
Yeah, about Maddie, because he
was at the theater.

919
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,480
And so that would have actually
she was, she had started right

920
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,920
about then.
That would probably prove that

921
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,040
she had set him up.
You know, she was setting him up

922
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,800
because she was like, oh, it's
time.

923
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:26,360
It's time.
Let me tell.

924
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,040
You, because if anything, she
could have been planning to do

925
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,040
something in the theater.
That's true.

926
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,680
And she needed him to do that.
That is true.

927
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,720
A theater full of people.
A theater full of people.

928
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,080
Just being a watching the music,
man, I can never watch that

929
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:52,240
musical now because yeah.
That was traumatizing.

930
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:58,320
But the the other interesting
thing is the fact that she

931
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,400
really was taking the
information that Lily was giving

932
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,840
her to try to find her dad,
because we find out that she was

933
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:10,640
the one that was in the cemetery
the night that they tried to

934
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,840
call, you know, the spirit.
It wasn't actually Pennywise

935
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,800
that they brought well, or
maybe.

936
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,200
It it, it was Pennywise.
But she was there.

937
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,560
She was there.
She was there and she's the

938
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:28,720
she's the clown that Will got
the picture of inside the crypt.

939
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,560
Which makes sense because none
of the pictures of Pennywise,

940
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:35,000
the pieces of Pennywise were
blank.

941
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,680
Yeah, like he was in them.
But the one picture that she was

942
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,200
in, she was.
Still there?

943
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,160
Yeah.
And then all of the pictures

944
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:49,040
that they took of the the images
of Phil and the ghost and Teddy

945
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,040
and.
All of the pictures of it.

946
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,040
Because all of that was it.
Yeah, well, I'm saying also to

947
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,920
them it looked like they're
friends.

948
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,280
I did wonder why the wig was so
weird in the pictures.

949
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,960
I just thought maybe it was
distorted because of the camera,

950
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,600
but it makes But now that you
see it's just her crazy wig that

951
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,880
her wig.
Yeah, that was.

952
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,680
Cute.
I don't know these clowns who

953
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,440
thought these clowns are great.
Like these are the worst looking

954
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,840
clowns I've ever seen in my
life.

955
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,680
If if I was a kid, I mean, even
as an adult, I no, I mean, the,

956
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:26,760
the, the, the only thing close
that I have come to seeing a

957
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:31,440
clown that was kind of sort of
on that spooky spectrum was you

958
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,200
got, have you guys heard of
Puddles the Clown?

959
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,760
Yeah, I've seen a total show
live.

960
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:40,040
He looks like Terrifier.
He looks like that clown

961
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:45,640
Terrifier.
So yeah, but I.

962
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,960
Oh, I did a podcast with Gary on
his show Podcast of Amantiato

963
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,360
where we talked about clowns.
You sure did.

964
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,760
He's really good did.
You guys talk about Pennywise

965
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,320
because I think I only lived
until like half of that one and

966
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,240
then I had to go work, but.
Yeah, we talked about the

967
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:05,760
terrified clown.
Yeah.

968
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,800
See, I don't even know what that
I don't even know what that

969
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,600
clown looks like.
Like I hear enough people talk

970
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,600
about Terra Fire.
I'm like anytime I see anything

971
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,400
that mentions it, I turn away.
I'm like, I think that's a

972
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,440
little bit outside of my
wheelhouse.

973
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,680
So if you're listening, go check
it out.

974
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:30,240
Podcast of Amatiado real good.
I'll, I'll link it in the show

975
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:33,760
notes.
But OK, so, so we're going to,

976
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,120
we're going to wrap up on Miss
Curse because we spent a lot of

977
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,640
time talking about her, but
basically, yeah, she she got

978
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,280
issues and and Lily is now
realizing that.

979
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,160
And I feel so bad for her
because she has the artifact

980
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,480
with her again.
She's keeping the artifact with

981
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,360
her like this thing is.
My precious.

982
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:58,000
Yeah, like her precious.
So when Miss Curse tries to, I

983
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,600
don't know, tries to grab her,
hug her, comfort her again, she

984
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,000
cuts her on the hand and she
runs out the house and Miss

985
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,960
Curse actually tries to grab her
and she leaves a a bloody

986
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,880
handprint on Lily's shirt.
But Lily is riding her bike down

987
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,600
the street and she just lets out
this how?

988
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:20,680
And I felt so bad for this baby
because I was like, she can't

989
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:27,360
catch a fucking break right now.
Her friends are not around her.

990
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,320
Her the the one person she she
trusted has turned out to be a

991
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,680
little cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
Her mom ain't never there

992
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,320
because mom is trying to work to
support them.

993
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,920
Dad is gone out.
I just feel so bad for this

994
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,600
little girl.
And it's like then she's sitting

995
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,760
in the episode with the things
that Pennywise said to her in

996
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,480
her head, Oh, you're such a
good, you know, you keep

997
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,200
bringing me people because such
a good friend, but you're such a

998
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,440
bad dog.
Like she was living with this

999
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,040
rent free in her head.
To the point, which is why I

1000
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:08,440
think she's also not giving up
that dagger is because she

1001
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,400
probably doesn't have it while
she's holding the dagger.

1002
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:16,960
Like, it's probably, you know,
blocking out Pennywise's effects

1003
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,480
while she's coding.
It could be, yeah.

1004
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,480
My thing is we need to chop some
pieces off and make everybody

1005
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,120
like a supernatural medallion or
Talisman or something like what

1006
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,680
are we doing?
So I just, I don't understand,

1007
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,440
like Anthony said, like why did
we leave chunks of this thing in

1008
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,480
the earth?
Why didn't y'all take more?

1009
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,120
I mean, she wouldn't know this,
of course, but yeah, you know

1010
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,720
what, Y'all are right that that
kid does look a little bit

1011
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,280
older.
So she might be like maybe 12-13

1012
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,000
in the picture.
The one of of first when she

1013
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,360
was.
Little she was little she was

1014
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,640
with her dad.
OK, I just couldn't remember how

1015
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,720
old she looked.
Yeah, but but yeah, I mean, even

1016
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,520
even when she's in the
classroom, she's in the

1017
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,040
classroom.
She's spaced out.

1018
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,720
And then when she goes to open
her desk to get her textbook,

1019
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,920
she sees that image of her dad.
I will never forgive them for

1020
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,360
what they have done to Pickles.
Right, right.

1021
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,440
I have not had a pickle since
that episode.

1022
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,440
Oh yeah, because we've had
trivia and you have.

1023
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,080
You didn't want any fried
Pickles?

1024
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,240
I, I was the fried Pickles I can
do, but I'm like one of those

1025
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,400
people that used to go to the
store and buy the big deal

1026
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,320
pickle or I buy a jar of
Pickles.

1027
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,560
I I can't right now.
Yes, I mean, I'm not going to

1028
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,520
stop eating Pickles because
they're my favorite, but like.

1029
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:44,120
The visual, The visual is I, I,
I got to give it a couple of

1030
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,280
weeks or maybe a couple of
months, because no.

1031
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:55,520
I'm I'm also curious about about
its powers because the the

1032
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,200
Talisman or whatever you want to
call it, it started glowing.

1033
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,400
Yeah.
In the classroom.

1034
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,400
Oh, because.
They're probably protecting her.

1035
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,640
Because you know, like, so when
it was all a whole whatever cage

1036
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:13,000
or whatever it was around it,
whoever put those markings on it

1037
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,480
when they shipped them out and
send them away or whatever they

1038
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,920
did, it was, I feel like if
that's part of what was keeping

1039
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,440
him is that power.
I don't think it really has

1040
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,680
anything to do with the the
actual material itself.

1041
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,960
It's just whatever those rooms
are that's keeping him.

1042
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,160
In the in the book In the book
didn't they call itself Eater of

1043
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,320
Worlds?
Yes, I remember something about

1044
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,600
that.
Yeah, that's crazy, right?

1045
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,200
Which is crazy, right?
Physically Eater of Worlds.

1046
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,360
But yeah, I wonder if if it
glowed because because she

1047
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,200
manifested that vision and the
the shark was like, no, we're

1048
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,040
going to keep him away.
We're going to keep him away.

1049
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,080
Oh, she didn't manifest that
vision.

1050
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,000
Well, you know what I mean.
It's like he, he brought it to

1051
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,960
her, but because it was him and,
and that's what it was, I think

1052
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:03,960
it was, you know, trying.
To I don't think you, I don't

1053
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,200
think it was trying to protect
it.

1054
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,720
I think it just reacts to its
presence.

1055
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,680
Yeah.
And I don't think he actively

1056
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,600
does protecting.
I think it's just it just glows.

1057
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,040
OK, it glows, Yeah, but the
rain.

1058
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,840
Blows whenever the NASCAR and
all them are.

1059
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:29,680
All and the the.
The dagger, Yeah, yeah.

1060
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:35,040
But when she when she saw that.
Now, I will say this, I

1061
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:40,880
understand the adults are under
some kind of influence or

1062
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:46,480
whatever, but I'll be as adults
who are showing no compassion to

1063
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,640
this girl who are showing no
kind of understanding.

1064
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,520
Like she obviously is freaking
out about something that she

1065
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,880
sees on her desk.
And the teachers like Lily

1066
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,720
Bainbridge, you sit down, right?
Do you not see that this child

1067
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:07,440
is freaking out?
Is it not like in you to go to

1068
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,360
her and say, Lily, are you OK?
You know what, this child has

1069
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:18,600
been through her dad.
They don't they they.

1070
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,400
The adult, let me tell you, the
adults in the way that they are

1071
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,920
with these kids.
And again, I understand if

1072
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,400
they're under some influence,
but even just the teacher, just

1073
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:35,040
not having any compassion.
The what?

1074
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,760
And then she gets mad because
Lily walks out the classroom.

1075
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,400
I would too.
Me too.

1076
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,680
I probably would have slapped
you once.

1077
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,880
Yeah.
Yeah, but you know, they did

1078
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,600
they they didn't have no real
like compassionation beat kids

1079
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,320
with meter sticks.
I know.

1080
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,960
And stuff.
Back then they didn't I.

1081
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:03,240
Know I remember them days now
rap on you with them stick

1082
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,800
moving on since we're talking
about slapping folks.

1083
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,200
Who you want to slap, girl?
Who you want to slap?

1084
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,960
Let's talk about motherfucking
Leroy.

1085
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,480
Leroy and Jenkins.
I need Leroy to pull himself

1086
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,000
together too.
Together OK, but you let me just

1087
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,120
tell y'all you wouldn't you know
I get it.

1088
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:28,040
Black folks, we always because
of how we were all raised, we

1089
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,280
all come up with the the the
corporal punishment thing and be

1090
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,640
like each year and need they.
But me, you know, we always

1091
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,400
stand as black folks, but the
amount of people who felt like

1092
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,640
will deserve to be slapped in
that situation.

1093
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,080
Like I get it, he was mild
enough, but like also he.

1094
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,560
Was telling the truth.
This stuff this boy is going

1095
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,200
through, him and his friends are
going through, these kids are

1096
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,960
dying.
It's not like this ain't a game

1097
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,960
for him.
Like he he treating Will like

1098
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,920
he's like he playing games.
Right.

1099
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:03,400
Kid is traumatized and so you
are now on that end where you're

1100
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,360
seeing what he's going through
and you're you're getting that

1101
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,440
riled up that you just smacking
your kid around because you're

1102
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,640
so angry about what happened to
you.

1103
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,520
But what do you think he's
freaking going through?

1104
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:18,840
He's a child.
But anyway, so that may be meant

1105
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,040
because people are lying like
hey, you just left him again and

1106
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,640
all this stuff.
And I'm like, no, because I, I

1107
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,760
mean, literally, he was telling,
he was telling the truth.

1108
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,520
He said the truth.
He was like, you want me to just

1109
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,880
stay here and hide while my
friends are in danger?

1110
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,800
I'm not going to do that.
And I mean, I, on the one hand,

1111
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,200
I understand what Leroy is
saying because you're a child.

1112
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,480
What are you going to do?
Like he has that.

1113
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,840
You're a child, there's nothing
you can do.

1114
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,520
You need to let me handle it.
I'm a grown up.

1115
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,440
I get that part.
He can't do nothing either.

1116
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,680
But he's right and he is.
And he still has witnessed what

1117
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,760
he does with his help, right?
Like his power.

1118
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,280
He don't kill his friend 'cause
he ain't he.

1119
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,840
Ain't part you?
Know because and the.

1120
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:00,880
Big really.
His friends walked out of there.

1121
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,600
So we're all alive.
And it was because they were

1122
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,800
together and they were helping
each other.

1123
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:12,320
So yeah, when I say Leroy was
getting on my nerves in this

1124
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,960
episode, and then when Will was
telling him, he was like, it's

1125
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,960
gotten to you.
Yeah, yeah.

1126
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,760
He's like Nah, Nah, this is just
me.

1127
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:26,200
And then it was not when you and
your kid, then you're going to

1128
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,920
tell Charlotte later on.
It's it's just, you know, all

1129
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,080
this stuff that happened in the
sewer, You know, that's not me.

1130
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,680
That's not me, bro.
You basically saying what your

1131
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:42,120
son already said?
Yeah, but also, again, the thing

1132
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,080
that we have to think about, the
whole thing with him not having

1133
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,120
the fear.
So he is coming across as anger.

1134
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:54,600
Yeah.
I get it, but sheltering your

1135
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:59,040
child, first of all you're
already whole withholding stuff

1136
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,120
from them, you know what I'm
saying?

1137
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,800
And granted you in the military,
I get it.

1138
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,000
That's your priority.
Cuz he pissed me off with that

1139
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,480
too when he was talking to
Charlotte.

1140
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,760
But this is your priority,
whatever your first priority

1141
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,520
needs to be towards your son.
Because what?

1142
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,920
Now you know, Now you know this
thing is targeting children.

1143
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,840
Right.
You know your son is MD

1144
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,440
Crosshairs.
Literally.

1145
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,640
Literally like several times he
didn't almost died because of

1146
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:37,160
this thing and you, you mad.
No, like I don't know.

1147
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,800
I just, I had so much PTSDI was
like Oh my God, I was so mad.

1148
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,560
It's just like grown people,
don't they?

1149
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,280
I mean, there's some things I
think kids obviously should be

1150
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,720
disciplined for, but kids do not
need to be hit and smacked

1151
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,920
around because you're angry.
That is something you do not

1152
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:02,120
beat children over.
And they also don't need to be

1153
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:06,960
hit and smacked around when they
are aware of the situation

1154
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,040
that's going on.
Yeah, but you see what's

1155
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:11,840
happening, yeah.
Right.

1156
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,720
It's not like he told you
something that was untrue.

1157
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,520
And also he's doing what you
told him to do.

1158
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:24,360
Yeah, you told me that.
The what?

1159
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,320
What did he say?
The the the sign of being a man

1160
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,880
is having friends and doing what
you can to help them out.

1161
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,840
Whatever he was like.
I have friends now.

1162
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,440
Think about the way he said.
I have friends now.

1163
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,480
He didn't have friends before.
I have friends now and my

1164
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:41,400
friends.
Need me?

1165
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,240
Remember when they first came,
he was talking to Charlotte

1166
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,440
about it.
He was complaining about him not

1167
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,920
being more like him or not
being, you know.

1168
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:53,480
And that is actually what the
problem is, because no, he

1169
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:59,160
shouldn't have hit him in anger.
Well that what he did is not

1170
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,120
equal punishment to being hit
like that.

1171
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,280
So either way, if people agreed
on that.

1172
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,600
I mean that was.
A little much that was Yeah,

1173
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,360
that was.
And you're doing it not because

1174
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,720
you just mad that you you shot
your friend.

1175
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:17,560
And your son called you out on?
It right, but if they had a

1176
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,240
better relationship, it could
have worked.

1177
01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:23,560
It could have been different
when that happened because then

1178
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,920
Will can be like, Dad, you, you
losing control.

1179
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,279
I think he has gotten to you.
But because they're not

1180
01:08:30,279 --> 01:08:33,840
connected, like he's going to
have to repair this later.

1181
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:37,000
Yeah.
And that's what Charlie told us,

1182
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,399
right?
Because you, you don't have.

1183
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:41,600
He's closer to his mom.
Because you don't listen to him.

1184
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,160
You didn't want to go fishing.
You finally got some friends.

1185
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,800
You don't really know what he
likes.

1186
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,080
You don't.
You're not listening to him.

1187
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,080
Y'all both seen some some crazy
shit the last couple of days.

1188
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,200
So can we sit down and feel mom
in and tell her like I

1189
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,439
understand her.
I understand son.

1190
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,120
Maybe we can get your friends to
spend the night over here.

1191
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:07,600
That right and then I figure
something out for away from

1192
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:08,960
there.
You want to protect your

1193
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,319
friends.
Let me go with you.

1194
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:12,160
We bring them over here.
Let's have a slumber.

1195
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,960
Part because that's the other
thing that pissed me off when he

1196
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,279
told Charlotte you need to stay
out of this because you don't

1197
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:19,520
know what's going on.
That's part of the problem.

1198
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,479
Part of the problem.
That's part of the.

1199
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:31,359
Problem there is a crazy looking
clown the turn into things and

1200
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:34,680
you don't feel the need that's
coming after the kids but.

1201
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:36,600
Right.
And it's coming after your kids

1202
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,359
because that's the one thing.
Like if it was something.

1203
01:09:38,359 --> 01:09:40,600
And you know that it is that was
trapped.

1204
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:45,960
On base and it was like the Army
had control over it maybe, but

1205
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,240
this ain't something that's the
Army got control over.

1206
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,560
This is something in our town,
under our home, attacking our

1207
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:59,040
children and you just.
You put us in the cage with the

1208
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:00,720
monster.
He was like, I didn't know.

1209
01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:03,800
But when you found out, you
still didn't do shit about it.

1210
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:05,080
Right.
And you're still not.

1211
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,400
We're still not having the
conversation.

1212
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,600
Right, or or even just telling
her like he was like you don't

1213
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,640
understand Charlotte.
This thing, this thing got in my

1214
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,360
mind.
It changed itself.

1215
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,440
It was, you know, because I
think he's telling her, but he's

1216
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:23,160
also telling her in a way that
she's like, what the fuck are

1217
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,560
you talking about?
Like you're not having AI

1218
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,440
understand.
This is not the time to have a

1219
01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:31,360
calm rational discussion, but
you got to do better than what

1220
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:33,760
you doing because.
Keep packing up bro.

1221
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,360
Yeah.
Right.

1222
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,520
She's like, I could go help it.
Oh, by the way, yes, I'm helping

1223
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,920
the escaped quote UN quote
murderer and you can feel

1224
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,560
however you want to feel about
it.

1225
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,680
But this what I'm going to do
and then I'm going to take your

1226
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,560
son and we going back to
Shreveport with or without you.

1227
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,120
Yeah, and honestly.
When he tried to talk to her and

1228
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,360
he was telling her, he was like,
look, I'm just messed up in my

1229
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,640
mind about Polly.
And she went to go hug him.

1230
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,080
I was like, OK, maybe this is
the start.

1231
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,640
And then he was like, I'm doing
so much to try to protect this

1232
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:04,400
country.
She.

1233
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,520
Backed up because we don't went
back to the country.

1234
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:08,360
Why?
Why are you?

1235
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,520
Why are we not we not who is
lying to you, right?

1236
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:17,840
Like and you literally just
slapped your son and he ran out

1237
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,960
and you worried about the
country right now.

1238
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,880
You need to worry about your
son.

1239
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,960
Because my thing is so this is
the thing that would really like

1240
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,280
made me be like, OK, maybe I
need to retire early.

1241
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,520
You, you got a man telling you
that there's this thing out here

1242
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:39,320
that if we get a hold of it,
it's so powerful that it we can

1243
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,760
we can control the whole Cold
War.

1244
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,840
That didn't that didn't give you
some kind of pause.

1245
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,240
Like, I don't understand why
that alone did not give him

1246
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,400
pause.
They're talking about something

1247
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,200
that puts so much fear in
people, they can stop a whole

1248
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,680
war from happening, right?
Right.

1249
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:02,320
Then you tried that same shit
with with Dick where he's like,

1250
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,760
you need to get yourself
together to help protect this

1251
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,200
country.
Listen, he was like.

1252
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,920
Get the fuck out of here with
that.

1253
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,080
We do what we can to take this
country.

1254
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,640
So you need to do your duty to
your country you like, right?

1255
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,120
So you know, what if you got to
talk to the ghost to find out

1256
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,920
where this is and the ghost got
to come in, you just got to do

1257
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,880
it one time and then you can
lock them back away in the box.

1258
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,480
They said, well, what if I can't
do that?

1259
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,040
I was like, you know what Leroy,
you starting to get on my

1260
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,480
nerves.
No, he's been getting on my.

1261
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,000
Nerves in the worst way.
Since day one.

1262
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:46,880
Because you were not.
First of all, you are in the

1263
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:51,040
military.
And I've never been in the

1264
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,240
military, but my dad was in the
military.

1265
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,480
I know a lot of people in the
military and I see what the

1266
01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:02,320
military does.
You know, publicly you best

1267
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,480
believe that General and telling
him all the truth.

1268
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:06,800
He was telling them everything.
Right.

1269
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,680
That's what he told them.
Wasn't enough for me to want to.

1270
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,840
I wouldn't want to have nothing
to do with that because I

1271
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,320
didn't.
It just doesn't sound right.

1272
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,360
And again, going back to the
whole plan when they went to 29

1273
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:23,280
Nebolt St. you're talking about
going to retrieve these 13

1274
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,280
artifacts and moving them closer
to KHM.

1275
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:28,920
You didn't have enough manpower
to do that.

1276
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:34,360
So something you are saying is
not right, but you just don't

1277
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:39,400
believe what they're telling you
because, and I don't know if

1278
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,200
this has to do with ego.
I don't know if it's because,

1279
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,720
oh, OK, well, I'm the only
person who can do this.

1280
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,320
So, you know, they're, they're
letting me in on this top secret

1281
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,520
mission, whatever classified
mission, whatever, whatever do.

1282
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:57,560
Your son has almost died several
times over, including once by

1283
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,400
your own hand.
I think you need to say fuck the

1284
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,200
military at this point and
figure out what the fuck is

1285
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,880
going on in Derry and get your
get your they.

1286
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:13,640
Go.
Right, because at this point.

1287
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:20,200
Put in order to be moved.
Or not even that y'all.

1288
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,280
So y'all.
So they sit on finding this

1289
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,280
entity, go AWOL because guess
what?

1290
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,480
The further they get away from
Derry, they going to forget

1291
01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:29,720
about Pennywise.
They might forget why you went

1292
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:30,960
AWOL.
You.

1293
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,000
You will be.
Fine.

1294
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:38,040
You will be fine, your your son
and your wife will be safe.

1295
01:14:38,480 --> 01:14:44,200
But right now all three of y'all
are on Penny Wise's radar at

1296
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,080
this point, even if he hasn't
come after Charlotte.

1297
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:52,640
Charlotte has her hands in
enough pots that she's going to

1298
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,200
get pulled into it somehow.
Penny Wise has already disguised

1299
01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:00,400
itself as her.
Yes, she's she's fully involved

1300
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,240
in this Hank Grogan thing, which
we see by the end of this

1301
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:07,640
episode is about to go to shit.
Yeah, and she he, she actually

1302
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,440
saw the cops face change wimp
any wise.

1303
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,120
So she's actually seen them and
just didn't realize what it was.

1304
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,920
Right.
And if Leroy would just listen

1305
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:21,920
to himself like I, I, I killed
my best friend is dead.

1306
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:25,400
I almost killed my son.
Yeah, dude.

1307
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:29,440
And you saw your you saw the
theme change into your wife.

1308
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,800
And then after you shot it in
the head, it still woke up and

1309
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,680
went.
Yeah, and swim away.

1310
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,440
Just listen to your own self.
It's time to go.

1311
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,120
It's time to go.
Dairy is not the place to to

1312
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,800
make roots.
I'm like, I'm like Dick man, you

1313
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:49,280
better get out of here with that
bullshit.

1314
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,000
Let.
Me tell you.

1315
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,680
Poor Dick, he don't been through
it.

1316
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,800
Dick at this point.
Dick and Lily, they have been

1317
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,880
through it.
They have been through it and

1318
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:03,880
both of them are done.
Lily is letting out the howl of

1319
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:09,400
all house and Dick is literally
telling his officer fuck you I

1320
01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:14,400
don't care what you.
Get the people get.

1321
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:20,480
Out because this man has been
missing for a day.

1322
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,160
You come in and he tells you you
like, what's going on?

1323
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:26,320
You were in the tunnels for a
day.

1324
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,880
He was like, well, this thing I
got, it allows me to see things

1325
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,360
from a young age.
This man just told you he'd been

1326
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:37,440
seeing dead people since he was
nine years old, that it was so

1327
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:41,000
bad.
Had to lock them away in an

1328
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:46,600
imaginary box in his head.
Yeah, and he's so beat up now he

1329
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:47,960
can't even get them back in the
box.

1330
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,840
It it came and just ripped that
top right on off.

1331
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:58,120
And laughed while it did it.
And.

1332
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,400
And you want to see him be like,
OK, well, do you see him now?

1333
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,280
Yeah, they're in here.
There's a couple of them in

1334
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,800
here.
Well, can you talk to no,

1335
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,800
because if I talk to you say as
long as I, as long as I shut up,

1336
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,720
don't say nothing.
They don't even notice I'm here.

1337
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,600
But if I were to say anything,
it would be like noise.

1338
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,720
And and again, going back to our
comparisons, I have a feeling

1339
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:25,760
like if you watched Umbrella
Academy, when Klaus is is off

1340
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:30,360
his drugs, all of the ghosts are
coming to him and they're

1341
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,640
talking to him.
And I feel like that's what Dick

1342
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,960
goes through if if he allows
that to happen.

1343
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,320
It's like that it's like in in
ghosts when Whoopi Goldberg's

1344
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,920
character, yes, when her she
empowers manifested.

1345
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,480
She talked to one they see, you
know, looks like they all.

1346
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,240
Oh, you want to have
conversations with us?

1347
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,400
OK, let me tell you what's
what's going on with me.

1348
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:53,840
OK, let me tell you what I need
you to do.

1349
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,920
It's too much.
And then for somebody with his

1350
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:02,480
kind of abilities, I can't, I
don't even want to imagine what

1351
01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:05,560
that's like.
And then for you to have the

1352
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,520
unmitigated girl to be like,
well, you can just do it once

1353
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,640
you got to do it for your
country.

1354
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:13,240
I mean because first and
foremost you are an airman for.

1355
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,720
Your man first class.
Get out of here with that

1356
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,000
bullshit, he said.
Get the fuck out of here.

1357
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:20,680
Get the fuck out of here with
that.

1358
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,640
And, and rightfully so, because
that's because your ass ain't

1359
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,560
scared.
Yeah, no, me and the rest of us

1360
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,640
ain't.
The rest of us got good sense.

1361
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,640
Or or just like you, sometimes
you got to question orders like

1362
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,240
what is wrong with you?
How are you not questioning

1363
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,520
orders at this point?
And I love that line where he

1364
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,560
says General Shaw's calling him.
And go lick his.

1365
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:45,800
Boots.
You know what he.

1366
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,760
Needs your your boot licker.
You can't talk to me like that.

1367
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:56,040
I just, I was laughing.
I said, you know what, he

1368
01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:01,240
deserves it because he really is
not looking at this with his

1369
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,000
eyes open.
And I don't know if it's that

1370
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,880
whole thing with the brain
damage that's just making him

1371
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,480
that detached.
I'm sure that's part of it, but

1372
01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:14,000
some of it I also feel like
there's a there's a bit of

1373
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:17,360
arrogance with Leroy that.
Oh, OK.

1374
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:18,400
Well, I'm going to take care of
it.

1375
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,160
Oh, we're going to be we're
going to move away from the

1376
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,080
house.
We're going to be on base.

1377
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,360
And that thing is not going to
bother you.

1378
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:24,320
I promise.
Bruh.

1379
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:28,400
You can't make the time every
main do not make promises.

1380
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,720
You can't keep Harriet point
blank.

1381
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,160
Because.
You don't even know what you're

1382
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,520
making promises about.
Why?

1383
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:42,120
You don't know anything.
But you know, he, I guess his

1384
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,680
whatever crash he had where,
where he almost died.

1385
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,440
You know, they say stuff like
that changes your life, changes

1386
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:53,680
your outlook.
Maybe that combined with with

1387
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:58,040
the the brain damage is making
him like this.

1388
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,720
And, and I wouldn't doubt it,
but and, and I mean.

1389
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,600
I can't even understand it, that
no man, I got to like it.

1390
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,600
That no man, I'm not going to
give him shit about it.

1391
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:12,960
You being an ass right now and
your family is in danger and you

1392
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,560
worried about the wrong thing.
Oh, we're going to do what we

1393
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,880
got to do for the military
because that's what they told us

1394
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,600
to do.
I think.

1395
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,840
I think Dick was trying to get
locked up.

1396
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,680
I think he was trying to get.
Like maybe so he wouldn't have

1397
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,800
to do it anymore.
Like, because you know, if he's

1398
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,600
available, they're going to make
him go back out.

1399
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,880
There, but I also think they're
not going to lock him up for

1400
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:36,480
that specific.
Reason because.

1401
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:42,400
He's too valuable a resource for
them, which is he suck.

1402
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,480
Terrible.
And again, like, we don't know

1403
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:51,440
what it was that he did to put
those things in that box.

1404
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,320
But also, he was 9 when he did
it.

1405
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,880
He's a grown man now.
He's had other experiences.

1406
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,080
He's had life experiences he
might not be able to.

1407
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:08,600
When you're 9, your life
experience is so limited.

1408
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,840
Yeah.
It was probably, yeah, easier

1409
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,120
for him to focus, like, OK, I
don't want to deal with these

1410
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,160
things.
I'm going to put them in this

1411
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:16,560
box and I'm going to keep it
locked up.

1412
01:21:17,480 --> 01:21:22,640
But now you got so much other
stuff going on, and not only

1413
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:26,200
that, you have this real fear
about what this thing is because

1414
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:30,680
you can feel it.
How are you supposed to focus

1415
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,720
enough to to do that?
Yeah, it's not.

1416
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,400
It's not going to let you focus
enough.

1417
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,160
He's going to leave, it feels
like.

1418
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,040
Oh, he's trying to lock him up
in there.

1419
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:46,320
I like where you are right now.
And then on top of all of that,

1420
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,640
he goes to the black spot, which
is the place that he secured for

1421
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,080
his friends.
He goes to try to get him some

1422
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:58,760
some some drink and some
relaxation and y'all got to

1423
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:06,360
outlaw outlaw hanging out.
He said no, no, no, no, no, no,

1424
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,960
no.
He was like and when Hank was

1425
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,200
like, I'll be quiet.
I'll just stay back here in the

1426
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:13,720
room.
He.

1427
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,800
Said this ain't a magic room, he
said.

1428
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,320
You're going to bring down a lot
of trouble on us.

1429
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:24,200
And I was like, Yep, Yep.
Because we talked about it and

1430
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,840
we see what happens towards the
end of the episode because

1431
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,440
again, somebody done tipped off
the cops.

1432
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:35,480
We know who that.
Is right and and at this point

1433
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,040
you got all your friends in this
little droop joint.

1434
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,400
Y'all are having a good time.
Y'all are partying, partying.

1435
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:47,640
Y'all are singing.
The kids will Marge and Rich,

1436
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:52,800
they've come in because they
want to talk to Ronnie because

1437
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,440
again, they had their big blow
up earlier.

1438
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:57,920
Ronnie is like, we're not going
back down there.

1439
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,880
You almost got us killed.
I'm staying with my daddy, you

1440
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,240
know.
She was like, I'm not doing none

1441
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,000
of this because that that little
argument she and Lily had, I

1442
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,760
mean, she went off.
She was like, look, you, I wish

1443
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,280
you'd never come to my house,
she said.

1444
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,280
Because if y'all hadn't come to
my house, we wouldn't have been

1445
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,520
in that theater and my dad
wouldn't be on the run.

1446
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,240
Lily was like, you got it easy.
She said.

1447
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,720
You were up in the booth.
You didn't have to see them.

1448
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:26,800
I saw what happened.
I was the only one that came out

1449
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:32,400
of there alive so.
And she felt guilty about Maddie

1450
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,280
on top of that.
So she has a lot of like.

1451
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:41,280
Yeah.
And for her, she's like, if we

1452
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,400
can kill this thing, if we if
this thing, if it's scared of

1453
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:48,600
this thing and we can kill it,
all of us can sleep.

1454
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:53,200
All of us would be better.
And I'm sorry for with

1455
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,200
everything that she's gone
through, it don't seem that

1456
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,280
crazy a plan to me.
Yeah, because at this point, you

1457
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,920
can either go try to kill that
thing or you can let that thing

1458
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,920
make you crazy to death or
actually kill you, eat you.

1459
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,280
And again, she has seen what
that looks like.

1460
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,520
What it looks like, Yeah, now I
get that.

1461
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,240
I do get where Ronnie was coming
from, though, because Ronnie was

1462
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,520
like you.
You convinced us with your

1463
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,840
anchor and whatever.
I forgot the other metaphor.

1464
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:26,160
You like she did kind of like
hype them up and like make them

1465
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,360
feel a certain kind of way
because all of them was like, I

1466
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,560
don't know if I want to say I'm
not an anchor, but I feel like I

1467
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,080
should be anchoring today.
And so I get where Ronnie was

1468
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,120
coming from because she, you
know, she did kind of like push

1469
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:39,600
them.
They're like, come on, guys, we

1470
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:44,440
can do this and whatever because
we have this, this, this, this

1471
01:24:44,440 --> 01:24:47,760
collaboration of of eating,
eating.

1472
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,200
But it was those things that
they ate anxiety pills or

1473
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,240
whatever.
We have the Valium.

1474
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,160
We can.
Do this.

1475
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,840
And so here she comes again
after that crazy.

1476
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,760
You got us out, took us down and
got us killed almost.

1477
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,800
So I I do understand where
Ronnie's coming from.

1478
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,800
It's but it's, you know, it's
all fear.

1479
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,560
And then like Richie, Richie is
so smart, he said.

1480
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,840
Guys, don't let him push us
against each other.

1481
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,760
Like that's what he wants.
What he wants.

1482
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,360
This is what he wants and I'm
like but my precious.

1483
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,160
Right.
But the other thing with the

1484
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:30,320
kids, before we go back to the
Juke joint, I feel sorry for

1485
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:34,600
Lily too, because she's the only
one not paired up at this point.

1486
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,920
Because Will and Ronnie got this
little cute little thing going

1487
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,600
on.
And Rich and Marge have this

1488
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,720
cute little thing going on.
And I think it was so funny

1489
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,440
because I think Anthony was
like, I actually like them

1490
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:48,920
together.
He was like, I don't usually

1491
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,480
like.
I don't.

1492
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,800
You know, the whole romance
thing.

1493
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,920
I don't, I don't care for
romance stuff, but Marge and

1494
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,000
Rich.
They make a cute little cool.

1495
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,960
Oh, they.
Were so adorable.

1496
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,320
Him helping her with her little.
Patch.

1497
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:08,520
Oh, that's the coolest thing
I've ever seen, baby.

1498
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,640
But I would have punched him
dead in his face when he started

1499
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,040
licking my bandage.
Like, yeah, I was like, oh.

1500
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,800
God, 60s.
That's what they did.

1501
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,040
Yeah, shout out.
We Webblo.

1502
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:24,440
I was a Webblo.
We Webblo OK.

1503
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:25,960
But the.
The.

1504
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,400
The coolest thing with the there
were there were two actually

1505
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:33,120
like really, really cool moments
with the kids in this episode.

1506
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,040
The first one was in the
cafeteria when the Patty cakes

1507
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:39,440
came over to talk to Marge.
And they were like, oh, you

1508
01:26:39,440 --> 01:26:41,240
know, they're still talking shit
about Lily.

1509
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,200
Oh, it's a good thing that you
survived.

1510
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,400
You know, you're you're you're
almost killing at the hands of

1511
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,680
Lily.
Is is, you know, at least you

1512
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,400
didn't take your second eye.
And Marge is like, that's not

1513
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,440
what happened.
Well, why don't you come to our

1514
01:26:54,440 --> 01:26:57,120
table and tell us what happened?
Is sitting over here with the

1515
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:03,000
nerds and Rich is looking at her
and all the other kids at the at

1516
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:11,000
her.
I'm just looking at Mars like So

1517
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,920
what you going to do?
Obviously, if you're sitting at

1518
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,800
the quote UN quote nerd table,
you know everybody thinks you're

1519
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,520
a nerd.
So if they call you a nerd,

1520
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,080
you're not surprised.
You're looking at March like OK,

1521
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,600
you sitting over here with us
and she calling you out with.

1522
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,960
What?
Are you going to do but she.

1523
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,600
Don't do March.
And she has the courage now

1524
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,560
because her and Rich, they had
this cute little interaction

1525
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:36,000
before where he gives her the
iPads and she talked, They talk

1526
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,000
about nights and and pirates and
it's really, really cute.

1527
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,480
And when when Patty is like, so
you going to come sit with us or

1528
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,200
you going to sit over here with
the freaks?

1529
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:50,440
She just looks at her.
Then she stands up and she's she

1530
01:27:50,440 --> 01:27:54,760
says, Patty, I am a freak.
She takes the bandage and the

1531
01:27:54,760 --> 01:28:01,560
eye patch off and she but I say.
I'm like, I'm so glad her

1532
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:05,840
character like developed and
changed 'cause I wanted her dead

1533
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,800
in the beginning.
But that little girl who was

1534
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:17,520
over there dry haven cause Mars.
I was like, Michelle, is she dry

1535
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,480
haven, 'cause she ain't talking,
she she's doing something.

1536
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,640
She doing something.
I was like, is she about to

1537
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,400
throw it?
Like, did she scare her that

1538
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,880
much?
But Oh no, you know what it was?

1539
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:32,000
She was chewing gum.
Before, I was just about to say

1540
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:32,840
she probably was.
Oh.

1541
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,600
OK, she.
Was chewing that I think about

1542
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,480
it because I remember looking at
her face when Patty was talking

1543
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:40,880
to Marge, because she was.
Yeah, but.

1544
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,960
This when they always chews gum,
Yes Yeah.

1545
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:48,120
So when Marge scared them I
guess she got choked from.

1546
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:52,120
Dad, but she won't say Nan
nails.

1547
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,480
And that was the moment when
Rich really fell in love because

1548
01:28:56,480 --> 01:29:02,480
he was looking at her life like
she's a kind of my dreams.

1549
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,240
And then the two of them in the
two joint.

1550
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:06,440
So.
Cute.

1551
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,240
And the and the special the the
the air.

1552
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,120
Force the Air Force coke.
But did he?

1553
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,320
Did he put ramen in the coke?
Yes.

1554
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:21,000
Yeah, he did even.
If you watched it, if you watch

1555
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,400
he has a bottle, he turns
around.

1556
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:28,520
Most of them like I just.
Did but Adam saw and he said did

1557
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,480
he?
Just get him some rain.

1558
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,080
Because I was wondering why they
was talking about freedom coke

1559
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:39,160
and white tasted party because I
I must have looked away or

1560
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:40,680
something because I didn't
remember.

1561
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:42,760
That was very quick it.
Was very quick.

1562
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,440
Very quick.
He he, he said what Coke coming

1563
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:47,960
up.
He grabbed that bottle and

1564
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,320
turned around.
This Coke tastes funny.

1565
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,480
That was like, it tastes like
freedom.

1566
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,200
Freedom.
And then later on, March is

1567
01:29:56,200 --> 01:30:04,320
like, I like Air Force coke.
But the second coolest moment

1568
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,360
with the kids, they're in the
jute joint.

1569
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,880
Will is in the back trying to
talk to Ronnie about, you know,

1570
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,640
hey, we all need to be together
if we're going to go after this

1571
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:15,240
thing.
And then he starts talking to

1572
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:20,240
Hank.
Marge and Rich are out and

1573
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:21,600
they're just looking at
everybody.

1574
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,720
You know, everybody's dancing.
They're playing music.

1575
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,280
You've got the little, the
little cute little white girl

1576
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:28,720
soul singer.
She was good.

1577
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,200
And and one of the guys sees
Rich's drumsticks in his

1578
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,720
pockets, so he comes over.
He was like, hey, sticks, do you

1579
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:38,480
play?
He said.

1580
01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:40,520
We got a drummer, but he's
indisposed.

1581
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,600
The drummer sitting over on the
couch, knocked out drunk,

1582
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:49,640
sleeping.
So he gives Rich, let me tell

1583
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:53,240
you, Rich.
He, he, he puts Rich on the

1584
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,440
drums.
Rich like a little something.

1585
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,280
He gets on the drums and tears
up.

1586
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:04,640
He is jamming with the black
folks and like, like Dina's name

1587
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,640
says, he is invited to the
cookout.

1588
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,560
Invited to the cookout.
Richie was doing it, and Marge

1589
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,920
was looking at him like she was
looking at him with all new

1590
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:14,800
eyes.
I think that's when she fell in

1591
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:15,840
love.
I was like, yeah.

1592
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,280
Because he was just like, you
know?

1593
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:24,520
Looking at him like spin it.
And that that actually kind of

1594
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,720
really fits though, because he's
like, he's Cuban.

1595
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,720
He's like probably got a lot of
different types of music in

1596
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:35,480
this, you know, household.
He probably listened to some

1597
01:31:35,480 --> 01:31:37,880
jazz, you know, he probably
doing all of that.

1598
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,240
Yeah, Honey, he.
Because when she said you think

1599
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,600
we should, you think we should
go, he was like, Nah, I.

1600
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,360
Think we don't think that is
good.

1601
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,200
It was good.
And then when they started doing

1602
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,080
the dance and they were doing
the little freaky dancing, he

1603
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:54,320
was like, oh, what are they
doing?

1604
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,000
And I was like, I think they're
dancing.

1605
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:00,200
He was like, I've never seen
dancing like.

1606
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:03,840
That's that dancing your parents
keep you from.

1607
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,960
Yes, but they were so cute.
And then of course, you know,

1608
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:11,480
they're outside.
I mean, they're inside.

1609
01:32:11,480 --> 01:32:15,200
And then you have two of the two
of the people who were at the

1610
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,760
party outside.
They're talking, flirting,

1611
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,880
whatever, and all these cars
start pulling up, Start pulling

1612
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:22,080
up.
I was like, no people.

1613
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,360
No.
Oh, but but before that, you see

1614
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,840
angry at putting on her costume.
Oh.

1615
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:37,680
Yeah, And I was thinking, oh,
man, if something goes down, no

1616
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,680
one's going to believe that it
was a monster.

1617
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,320
They're just going to say this
woman was a serious.

1618
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:46,720
Yeah, yeah.
Which is what?

1619
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,400
You know what?
And I actually would not be mad

1620
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,200
if she was accused of, you know
what I'm saying?

1621
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,280
I would not be mad at that
because at least that would get

1622
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,360
handcuffed for me from from
being put in jail.

1623
01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:01,320
That's right.
You know I wouldn't even be mad

1624
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,000
and she crazed as a bestie bug
trying to you know, feed

1625
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:05,560
children so her daddy will come
back.

1626
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,360
So maybe she do need to go to
jail.

1627
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:10,720
Or, or the Juniper Hill.
She need to look.

1628
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,800
She needs to go from the
employee to the patients.

1629
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,120
She ain't wrapped too tight.
Ma'am, ma'am, you're going

1630
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,680
through the wrong entrance,
patient entrance that way.

1631
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:27,120
Preage this way please.
Listen, but when those cars

1632
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:30,720
start pulling up and the two
people outside they're looking,

1633
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,840
they're like, were you?
Were y'all expecting any more

1634
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,760
people?
I.

1635
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,200
Was first of all, let's talk
about these.

1636
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:42,160
Let's talk about these cowards.
Coward masks.

1637
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:47,720
Masks, don't they?
Well, let let's even go back

1638
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:52,760
because Chief Bowers is no
longer Chief Bowers because of

1639
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,320
everything that happened.
I guess they blame him for the

1640
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:59,280
quote UN quote animal attack
that allowed Hank Rogan to

1641
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,320
escape.
So they relieved some of his

1642
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,640
duties.
So he comes into the bar while

1643
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,200
everyone is trying, they're
discussing like, oh, the

1644
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:09,800
murderer is still free.
What we going to do?

1645
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,840
He was like, you know, they're
they're trying to decide where

1646
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,280
they're going to search for him
or we're going to go to the to

1647
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,280
the barons.
Oh no, he's not there.

1648
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,360
I know where he is.
We had a we had an anonymous tip

1649
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:23,040
called in.
I was like, no, she didn't.

1650
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,280
Yes, she, she.
Did.

1651
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,360
And I love her and only be
cursed at this point.

1652
01:34:28,440 --> 01:34:30,200
Well, they made sure to say a
woman.

1653
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:33,760
And they can only be cursed at
this point because we know

1654
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,080
Charlotte and Tell.
Right, right.

1655
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:37,600
And nobody else knows he's
there.

1656
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:40,200
Right.
So they're like, OK, well, if

1657
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,480
you know where he is, chief, why
don't you go arrest him?

1658
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:46,320
He was like, I can't do that
because as the call came in, I

1659
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,200
was cleaning out my desk because
I've been relieved of my duties.

1660
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,080
He was like, I can't even give
him a parking ticket right now.

1661
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:54,080
They're like, So what you come
and tell us for?

1662
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,280
Oh, because you're about to
make, you're about to round up

1663
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:01,520
that mob I talked about two
episodes ago to go and and mess

1664
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,680
with them.
So here they are pulling up at

1665
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,960
the Juke joint and this is where
the episode is.

1666
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:15,360
But I'm like, if you look at the
cars that just pulled up, you

1667
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:19,400
know that ain't your fault.
Yeah, especially considering

1668
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:25,720
most of your fault.
So the moment they come at you

1669
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,400
and they have their brights on
to the point where you have to

1670
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,920
be like this and then what was
it?

1671
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,200
You want to dim them?
Light some bro, bro, you talking

1672
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:38,280
to the wrong person?
Because the moment you see some

1673
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,320
of those cars, some of those
cars, especially if you are in

1674
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:45,360
the town, you should know who
some of those cars belong to.

1675
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:49,360
Right now they be on the base,
though they really sit on the

1676
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,560
base.
But they but the but the other

1677
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,200
like the the girl she she's
probably a Tammy.

1678
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,960
That's true.
You know, like they're probably

1679
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:02,360
just.
There's some just from the from

1680
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:06,240
the area.
Yeah, but they get out the car,

1681
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,640
they've got all masks and
they've all and and they've got

1682
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:11,480
guns.
Powers.

1683
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,960
Painting man, can't never do
shady shit and show your face.

1684
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:18,960
Because you're, you're, you're
the prominent people.

1685
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,280
I mean, Mr. Kirsch was in that
crowd, in the in the bar.

1686
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,960
It's always the ones that that
the nice town folk, you know.

1687
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:30,560
Mr. Kirsch was in there and.
Stan.

1688
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,720
And what's the name's dad is
Stan As soon as his daddy was in

1689
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:34,760
there.
Yeah.

1690
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:38,160
Or feeling Susie.
I don't want to be fair, feeling

1691
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,120
Susie's daddy was in there.
He's literally the only person

1692
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:45,000
out of that crew that I can
understand him being angry

1693
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:46,840
enough to go set some people on
fire.

1694
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,560
If it was my kids, I probably if
I thought somebody killed my

1695
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,360
kids, I probably would lose my
mind and go try to kill some

1696
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,160
people, Right.
But the rest of them, they just

1697
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:57,840
really just wanted to kill some
Negroes.

1698
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,440
That's that's.
That's what it was even in the

1699
01:37:00,440 --> 01:37:04,920
beginning of the episode when
they're putting Hanks wanted

1700
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:08,200
posters around the town.
You see everybody walking down

1701
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,200
the street with their guns and
they're all gathering in the

1702
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,160
square.
And like all the other people

1703
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:17,600
who aren't gathering with the
guns more more mostly the the

1704
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:21,280
women, they're just walking, not
paying no attention.

1705
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,040
Like it's not a big deal to
them.

1706
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,360
I, I told Michelle, when we saw
that scene with all the people,

1707
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,240
all the dudes walking around
with shotguns and rifle, I said

1708
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:33,080
they they think he's just going
to walk out of the bakery, like

1709
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:35,640
he's just going to walk into the
town square.

1710
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:42,680
Yeah, they they just need, they
just need a excuse to carry

1711
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,760
their external appendages
around.

1712
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,400
Towers.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.

1713
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,320
Because we already know, like I
said, that's how the episode

1714
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,000
ends.
But we already know where this

1715
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,080
is about to go.
Yeah, we already know it's and

1716
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,800
and I don't remember the same
much from the book, but I do

1717
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:03,560
know that was like one of the
big the big events.

1718
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:08,800
So we already know this is about
to go wrong and the fact that

1719
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:13,160
Will and Ronnie and Rich and
Marge are all in the building

1720
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:17,840
with when this goes on.
And like I said, the singer that

1721
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,880
they have in there is a is a
little white girl probably from

1722
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,080
town.
Yeah, it's about to be some

1723
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:30,240
mess.
All because put Hank Rogan in

1724
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:31,440
there.
Yeah.

1725
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:37,920
And yeah, I think The thing is
they could have sent him away.

1726
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:42,920
I mean like, look.
I know she was trying she and

1727
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:45,200
that that was the reason why she
put him in the black spot,

1728
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:48,560
because she said she was trying
to get him over the border, but

1729
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,000
it was going to take her a
couple of days to get the papers

1730
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,320
together.
So I get that.

1731
01:38:53,320 --> 01:39:01,400
But why would you?
Why would you put him with other

1732
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:05,240
people that you could endanger?
And granted it's a little

1733
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,840
military hangout.
Those are military guys.

1734
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:09,920
I'm sure they can handle
themselves.

1735
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:14,640
But when you have mob mentality.
You just don't go to the other

1736
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:16,800
people who black for the most
part.

1737
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,560
Right.
I mean, and I mean, even if Hank

1738
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,920
wasn't there, they probably
would have figured out some, oh,

1739
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,360
some black folks are over here.
Let's go talk to them.

1740
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,680
Let's go bother them a little
bit.

1741
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:30,720
Somebody would have known they
were out there.

1742
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,160
Yeah.
But that whole situation is

1743
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:38,360
about to be ugly because you got
all the black folks in one

1744
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:43,880
spots, you have the murder, the
quote UN quote murderer in that

1745
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:47,680
spot, and you have children in
that spot.

1746
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:52,800
It's about to be ugly.
Pennywise is about to have a

1747
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:54,400
field day.
Yeah.

1748
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:57,920
The Feast.
Because, you know, there's no

1749
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:02,400
way that situation is about to
happen and they're not be

1750
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,280
violence and they're not be
dead, right?

1751
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:10,240
Somebody, somebody is not going
to have a cool head to prevail.

1752
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:15,520
Because they don't have to.
I know, you know, I mean, they

1753
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,600
might have fired the sheriff,
but you know, the the cops ain't

1754
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,640
going to care.
You know they ain't going to

1755
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:26,280
care.
And I'm sure, and I couldn't

1756
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:29,280
tell because when they, when
they came out the cars, they had

1757
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:30,760
the masks on.
So I couldn't really tell.

1758
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:34,320
But I think the sheriff was the
one that was leading it, wasn't

1759
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:35,560
he?
Oh yeah, definitely.

1760
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,680
Yeah, it was definitely Bowers
for sure.

1761
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:42,560
So I'm just like, you know what,
I'm just, I'm going to brace

1762
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:46,320
myself for the fuckery that's
about to happen in the next

1763
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,840
episode because, you know, he's
about to be some.

1764
01:40:50,440 --> 01:40:53,920
He's at least Henry Bauer's
grandfather, right?

1765
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,360
So like now you can kind of see
where Henry kind of.

1766
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:01,840
Got.
His attitude from.

1767
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:05,400
Yeah, yeah.
All I got to say is they better

1768
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:09,000
not touch my babies so.
Goodness.

1769
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,040
And Hank Grogan need to get the
fuck out of there.

1770
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:17,000
Yeah.
Bro run into the woods.

1771
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,760
It's, it's dark.
It's dark.

1772
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:24,280
Let's let's be honest, they're
not going to see you let it run,

1773
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,720
run.
Because they're so focused on

1774
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:29,000
going inside because they want
to start some shit.

1775
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:32,880
They want to.
They have been itching for a

1776
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,960
reason to go and shoot some
black folk.

1777
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:41,000
And then they know that the
unless there's somebody who's

1778
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,760
just kind of like super scared
and they just want to turn them

1779
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,000
in, they know that they're not
going to probably turn them in

1780
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,320
because I mean, who wants to
turn over a black man to be

1781
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:51,200
lynched, right?
Like nobody.

1782
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:55,200
Yeah, and but then not only are
they cowards, but they stupid.

1783
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,920
They do realize that these are
military dudes.

1784
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:00,120
I.
Don't think I.

1785
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,040
Don't think they realize that
yet.

1786
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:10,400
They know it was a Air Force
thing that was out there.

1787
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:14,480
They know that those part of the
Air Force, not part of the base,

1788
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:17,640
but they knew what it was.
Remember that?

1789
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:20,560
Remember, that was something
that the General gave Dick.

1790
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,920
Right, but that is still.
Part of the land.

1791
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,520
Part of the land.
I wondered if she.

1792
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,880
Said what it was.
Barrack or something?

1793
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:34,760
They were out of storage.
Or outside or off off base?

1794
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,440
Off off base storage site.
So they know what?

1795
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:38,160
You OK?
OK.

1796
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,120
Yeah, OK.
If you lived there, you knew you

1797
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,040
know the area.
The people police knows what it

1798
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:44,040
is.
Yeah.

1799
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:47,120
Yeah, because they knew exactly
where to go.

1800
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,120
They knew what it was.
I mean, they got an anonymous

1801
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,160
tip.
Yeah, but they, but they have to

1802
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:56,640
know.
They have to know that they're

1803
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,640
going to that that they have to
know.

1804
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:05,760
No, because no, Because what I'm
saying is that that location was

1805
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,680
abandoned.
I don't think the military would

1806
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:11,640
make it known that, Oh yeah, we
gave this place for them to

1807
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,720
them, for them to hang out.
Like as far as the police chief

1808
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:19,120
knows, that place is abandoned.
So the only way they would know

1809
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:22,240
to go out there is because
whoever gave whoever called in

1810
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,760
the tip said this is where they
are.

1811
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:31,520
OK, I see what you're saying.
You know, because I, I don't

1812
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:35,680
think, I mean, think about it,
it's a Juke joint, Batman.

1813
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:37,800
Most Juke joints are illegal,
right?

1814
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,320
They're illegal in secret.
Yeah.

1815
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:45,040
So you really think a black Juke
joint is going to be

1816
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:49,120
knowledgeable like the the white
police chief is going to know

1817
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:50,880
about it?
No, because they're trying to

1818
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,960
keep that secret because they
don't want them come and

1819
01:43:54,960 --> 01:44:00,520
sniffing around.
Yeah, but they still know who

1820
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:05,160
owns that area.
Yeah, but if it's the military,

1821
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:07,880
you not gonna go fucking around
on the military's property?

1822
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:10,280
Right.
But he knows because it is

1823
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:12,280
military.
It was military storage.

1824
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:16,320
You know what you're supposed to
be governing versus what they

1825
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:20,160
supposed to be governing.
Now, it's not directly on the

1826
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:23,680
base, but that's part of their
land and part of where they put

1827
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,400
something.
But what I'm saying is, why

1828
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:27,360
would he think that Hank Grogan
would be that?

1829
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:30,240
Hank Grogan is not part of the
military so he would have no

1830
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,600
reason to even go there.
Do you see what I'm saying?

1831
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:35,880
Hank is not part of the
military.

1832
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,760
Hank is one of the black spot
because of Charlotte.

1833
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:43,560
Yeah, I think once they searched
the bearings and all the other

1834
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:46,920
wooded areas, at some point
somebody would have figured it

1835
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:48,680
out.
Yeah, they probably taking them

1836
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,440
searching all the other.
They would think he ran over

1837
01:44:51,440 --> 01:44:54,520
there and hiding in that area.
And then I was.

1838
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,760
Wondering, had to call and tell.
I was.

1839
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:00,760
Wondering like if Hank.
Went to the the.

1840
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:04,160
The Hanlon's house or something
where they've gone to the only

1841
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,320
black people in town's house
because you got to be with the

1842
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:07,480
other black people, you know
what I mean?

1843
01:45:07,480 --> 01:45:10,000
Like I wonder where else would
they have searched so?

1844
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,640
But you would have to well
evenly when they roll up in

1845
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,120
their cars and they see all the
other cars there.

1846
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,680
Why man, at that point, yeah, at
at that point.

1847
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:23,320
But what I'm saying is I don't
think they would have had any

1848
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:27,520
reason to go there had they not
been tipped off because one the

1849
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,240
place was as far as they thought
it was amazing.

1850
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:33,560
Yeah, that is true.
But I'm saying at that point

1851
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:39,040
when they rolled up and they saw
the cars and heard the music.

1852
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:42,720
Yeah.
They should realize, oh, there's

1853
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:45,840
some people here.
They didn't care, they'd be like

1854
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:49,400
they they smuggling him.
Right, they didn't.

1855
01:45:49,480 --> 01:45:53,400
Care and honestly, I don't know
that they wouldn't have attacked

1856
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:57,000
even if they even if he wasn't
there and they hey, he's not

1857
01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:02,680
here because The thing is they
got defensive that you know

1858
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:05,280
they're they're the guys
standing there he's like who are

1859
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:06,600
you man?
Turn off your lights.

1860
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:10,080
He started off kind of being
like and so that already

1861
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,680
probably had them already out
there like oh, he's waiting for

1862
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:15,720
a fight because we got our
lights on, how we going to take

1863
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,600
them out Then like they probably
was already getting hyped up

1864
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,320
because of how he kind of
reacted to them being.

1865
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:25,800
There and they were already like
hyped because they got this tip

1866
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,760
that oh, the kid, the kiddie
killer is that oh, we about we

1867
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:32,280
about to go through some stuff.
Well.

1868
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:35,800
It's about to be some mess.
And how many, just how many

1869
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:41,320
people you know, did we lose in
the black community due to stuff

1870
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,680
like this?
It's just to make sure so angry

1871
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:50,600
to just happy people.
We still losing people this way,

1872
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:55,120
you know it's.
But again, this is 1 of this

1873
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:57,880
will be because, again, we
already know this violence is

1874
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,280
about to happen.
This is going to be another one

1875
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,680
of those kind of, you know,
teachable moments in fiction

1876
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:07,880
because a lot of people don't
hear about this kind of stuff

1877
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:12,880
because governments and people,
they are consistently trying to

1878
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:16,520
erase this type of thing from
mystery books that stuff like

1879
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,440
this actually happened.
But we already know what's about

1880
01:47:19,440 --> 01:47:21,360
to happen.
We already know.

1881
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:26,240
So it's just like prepare
ourselves to be pissed because

1882
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:28,200
we know it's about to be some
damage.

1883
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,800
And I, I mean, I don't know, we
still have what we still have

1884
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:35,720
two episodes.
So if they do this in this

1885
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:39,760
episode, like is that going to
be considered the augury?

1886
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,160
Is that going to be the event
that puts Pennywise to sleep?

1887
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:46,240
Or is there something even
bigger that's going to happen

1888
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,880
today?
That's a good point, you know,

1889
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:53,120
because it's like, OK, you have
maybe what I would say they

1890
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:57,720
probably have about 30 people in
this joint, maybe 40, maybe

1891
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,840
more.
That's a that's a pretty big

1892
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:01,600
crowd.
That's a.

1893
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,760
Lot so this has.
To be, this has to be the

1894
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:07,720
Audrey, this has to.
Be has to be because if you have

1895
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:13,960
those many people you have what
maybe 2025 white white men

1896
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,520
outside with the guns.
So if there's some kind of

1897
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:20,160
battle, there's going to be some
kind of firefight because again,

1898
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:22,480
these are military men that that
are in this they.

1899
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:24,280
Got.
They got.

1900
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,080
Guns.
They got guns, so there's going

1901
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:32,120
to be some kind of shootout.
So either the carnage is going

1902
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:36,120
to be so big with this one and
then we also don't know, like is

1903
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:40,080
this place on the outskirts of
dairy or is it within dairy?

1904
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:45,000
Like we don't know, do we?
I know so.

1905
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:48,280
But the kids got there.
The kids got there on their

1906
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,960
bikes.
So like didn't they get come on

1907
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:53,160
their bikes at one point or no?
They did, they did.

1908
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,880
No, they did they when they got
there.

1909
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:57,920
Richie and them came on their
bikes right they?

1910
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:01,040
Brought their, they put their,
they use their bikes.

1911
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:05,120
So is this event going to be big
enough to be considered the

1912
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:09,040
Artery or is this just going to
be the starting point?

1913
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:14,320
And then whichever group, you
know, I don't want to say win or

1914
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:16,800
loses because I have feeling
it's going to be losses on both

1915
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:19,640
sides.
Is, is there going to be like a,

1916
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,320
Oh well, you came after us,
we're going to come after you

1917
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:28,160
and there's going to be a
another even bigger thing 'cause

1918
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,040
you got 2 episodes, you can't
give us the augury in one

1919
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,360
episode and then what you're
going to do for the last

1920
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,160
episode.
And then last episode was all

1921
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:37,480
calm and peaceful, and the way I
heard it, the last episode was

1922
01:49:37,480 --> 01:49:39,680
going to put us in a chokehold,
so.

1923
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:42,120
That that's what I just, I heard
that today too.

1924
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:46,280
Is it 8 episodes?
It's 8 episodes but they also I

1925
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,840
I've also heard episode 7 is
going to be a doozy.

1926
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:59,320
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't know, I just the

1927
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:03,560
y'all, y'all grown man, y'all,
y'all do whatever y'all going to

1928
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,760
do, leave, leave my children out
of it.

1929
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:11,280
I need you to, I need you to
grab Ronnie, I need you to grab

1930
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:14,600
the the other three kids.
I need y'all to get out.

1931
01:50:15,440 --> 01:50:20,040
And I have to say, even though
it feels so wrong that she is

1932
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:22,920
not there with them, I'm so glad
Lily is not there.

1933
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,480
I mean, she don't need to be she
didn't already like it's been so

1934
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:29,160
much like she didn't been
through enough.

1935
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:34,720
Just stay home, honey, right,
Just really that great in in a

1936
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:38,040
in a in a clutch.
I mean, now she got the

1937
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:42,080
precious, but when it's over,
she's not really great when fear

1938
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:45,480
is that, you know, in play.
So she I don't think she would

1939
01:50:45,480 --> 01:50:46,880
have been good for her to be
there.

1940
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:50,680
Anyway, so, so just be at the
house, wait for your friends to

1941
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:54,440
come so you can comfort them and
so you can tell Ronnie, I told

1942
01:50:54,440 --> 01:51:02,360
you so let's go kill this this
thing, but let's go fight right

1943
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:04,440
because.
Apparently only us.

1944
01:51:04,440 --> 01:51:07,080
There's only us that can do it.
Apparently because grown folks

1945
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:08,920
are stupid.
Right.

1946
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:13,880
And all the other, all the other
kids are either too, too

1947
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:18,360
oblivious or I don't know, maybe
I don't know, they just don't

1948
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:20,920
taste.
Their fear doesn't taste as

1949
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:25,120
well.
To to Pennywise, Yeah, I mean,

1950
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:28,800
yeah, because he's definitely
getting kids who already have

1951
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:32,120
already have those weaknesses up
with the fear.

1952
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:37,000
But then on top of that, they're
bringing in more kids.

1953
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:40,400
So he ain't even got to search
anymore because like you said,

1954
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:42,560
Lily just bringing them in.
Right.

1955
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:46,880
But the other thing too is
again, we haven't seen what

1956
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:51,840
Richard scared of except for
what was it that they said in

1957
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:55,480
the when they were getting going
into the Juke joint.

1958
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,760
Will was talking about going to
convince Ronnie.

1959
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:00,720
He said we'll just pray that it
works.

1960
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:03,960
He said, I don't know, man.
The last time I prayed my my dad

1961
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:08,960
TO came after us in the grave.
You know, I don't know, maybe

1962
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,480
that's that's his fear.
Whatever.

1963
01:52:11,480 --> 01:52:14,120
But like we've seen everybody
else's fear.

1964
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:16,240
We haven't seen richest fear,
but.

1965
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:19,560
Also, I feel like he has he has
such a prey man.

1966
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:21,960
Yeah, that's what I was going to
say.

1967
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,440
He's like that.
He is the anchor of the group.

1968
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:28,880
I think because he's the one
everybody else is saying crazy

1969
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:30,880
stuff.
He's like, look, this is what we

1970
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,000
need to do.
This is how we need to add, oh,

1971
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:34,840
this thing is trying to pull us
apart.

1972
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,000
We can't do that right now.
We need to be united.

1973
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:39,840
We need to be together.
Why are y'all, why are y'all

1974
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:41,480
considering this?
This is stupid.

1975
01:52:41,480 --> 01:52:44,720
Like he's the one that's saying
what everybody else is too

1976
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:46,400
scared to say.
Yes.

1977
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:50,960
Because he because even though
he he basically was like, yes,

1978
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:52,360
Lily, everybody thinks you're
crazy.

1979
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,280
Like, get over it.
It's just the truth.

1980
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,360
You know, like everybody, he's
like my Barber.

1981
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,960
Everybody thinks you're crazy.
So OK, let's move on from.

1982
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,240
That right?
Because he's like, we, we know

1983
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:04,760
the truth.
That's all you need to worry

1984
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:06,960
about.
Don't worry about what all this

1985
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,440
outside noise is doing.
Don't worry about what everybody

1986
01:53:09,440 --> 01:53:13,440
else is thinking.
We know what we know.

1987
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,160
You don't dare stab your best
friend in the eye.

1988
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:19,000
That's all.
That's all you need to know.

1989
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:30,160
So but I'm worried about these
next two episodes just cuz we

1990
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:31,680
are.
Like I said, we already know

1991
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:36,000
there's about to be some carnage
in Seven and then 8.

1992
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:40,520
Some more carnage because I
can't imagine how it's going to

1993
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:42,920
get better.
Because you can't go from, you

1994
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,760
can't do what?
I mean, you could, but it people

1995
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:50,400
will be mad.
You can't have a big scene in

1996
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:54,840
the penultimate season episode
and then the season finale is

1997
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:58,920
just kind of wrong.
Yeah, I I just.

1998
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:00,960
Well.
Come on now you know how things

1999
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,160
are written.
You got to have a climax and a

2000
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,960
resolution.
Like I said, and if they do a a

2001
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:08,520
boring resolution, people gonna
be mad.

2002
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:10,720
People gonna be mad we.
That's how I.

2003
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,840
Don't think it's going to be
boring with these people, These

2004
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:14,600
Mark.
What's Mark?

2005
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:16,400
I can pronounce his name.
Mark Fetty.

2006
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,200
What was his last name?
Him.

2007
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:19,560
His wife.
They're terrible people.

2008
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,520
That's all I have to say.
The creators of this show,

2009
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:26,360
they're terrible people.
Oh my goodness.

2010
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:28,960
Every time I see his name, I get
PTSD on the screen.

2011
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:31,360
When I see his name, I'll just
be like, oh, Andy Marks.

2012
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:36,640
Whatever, it's the sound editor.
The sound editor was wrong for

2013
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:38,960
the clenching of the bone.
Of the.

2014
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:44,920
Little girl just wrong and.
And every, everywhere I go now

2015
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:53,720
on the Internet, I hear, I'm
like, oh Lord, this song is

2016
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:56,280
everywhere.
They're killing me.

2017
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,040
We have nightmares with that
little girl singing in my head.

2018
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:08,320
It's all their fault.
Crunchy, crunchy Pickles and

2019
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:12,320
horribleness.
But listen to the leader.

2020
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:16,280
She's like if I if I smile hard
enough, everything is fine.

2021
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:18,200
Right.
Yeah.

2022
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:22,280
Right now you must not be OK.
You ain't OK, baby.

2023
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:24,440
You're not OK.
I mean, have you seen the

2024
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:27,040
graphics that that that song
accompanies?

2025
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,320
No, she ain't OK.
She OK?

2026
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,560
You got somebody about to have a
needle stuck in his eye.

2027
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:36,960
You got Pennywise hanging off a
building gangster.

2028
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:38,960
Shooting it out.
Right.

2029
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:41,960
And I think that's the I think
that's the gangsters that they

2030
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:45,800
ended up burying in the the car.
But and.

2031
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:50,120
Then the factory fire.
The factory fire and then you

2032
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:54,000
see the eyes in the sewer.
So yeah, it's.

2033
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:56,800
They don't even have to change
it for the next seasons at all.

2034
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:01,080
No, they really don't.
They probably will though.

2035
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:05,760
Because if they get this and
don't do nothing with it.

2036
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:09,440
Because Season 2 is going going
back to 1935, right?

2037
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:14,520
So you think they're going to
expand a little bit more on

2038
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:17,800
Kirsch's story?
Oh yeah, for sure.

2039
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,440
Yeah, sure.
We got a whole bunch of years

2040
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:23,560
when she was taking kids down to
the basement.

2041
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:27,680
I'm excited actually to see it,
how she does it.

2042
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:31,000
As long as I don't have to hear
Pennywise crunching and

2043
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:33,800
munching.
Oh baby, that's going to be

2044
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:35,080
forever.
You're going to be hearing that

2045
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:38,240
forever watching this.
So so y'all don't think Netflix

2046
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:40,520
is going to going to shut all
that stuff down Let.

2047
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:44,080
Me tell you something.
Breath Netflix but not come in

2048
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,800
here messing things up.
They they got this.

2049
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:49,320
They got all the Game of Thrones
universe.

2050
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:51,200
It might.
Not even be Netflix, because

2051
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:55,560
apparently Paramount went in
with a hostile bid.

2052
01:56:55,760 --> 01:57:03,040
Of 104 billion and.
My first thought was like,

2053
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,760
Netflix ain't got that kind of
money, Netflix ain't got that

2054
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,440
kind of.
And I looked up at all, they

2055
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:11,360
took out a loan.
Just like any other business,

2056
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:13,000
but.
That's what I mean you that's

2057
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:16,440
'cause even with with Paramount
and when they were their initial

2058
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:20,720
offerings were like not cash
offerings.

2059
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,080
So I don't think anybody just
had.

2060
01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:25,240
No, they had to get everybody I
get a loan.

2061
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:29,080
And they have, Yeah.
And that's probably also why

2062
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,920
shows got cancelled.
They're like, oh, we need to, we

2063
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:36,960
need to make pay this money.
Collateral, but they make so

2064
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:40,640
much money, man.
My Netflix bill in the last, I

2065
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,280
would say three years has
tripled.

2066
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:49,240
Listen, they making any money?
Somebody posted a meme they said

2067
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:57,280
Netflix offered they offered 87
billion for for this deal but

2068
01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:00,240
they got mad because I had my
Mama on my account.

2069
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,760
On my password, right?
Right.

2070
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:07,320
I remember ask.
My father-in-law was using ours.

2071
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:10,360
They came out to us and like if
you choose to keep him, he will

2072
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:14,000
be paying 799 a month.
It's like, yeah, I remember, I

2073
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:14,960
remember.
When we used.

2074
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:17,000
To.
When we used to get the disc,

2075
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:20,640
you know, back, back in the day
and like, oh, we can do

2076
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:24,600
streaming and you can switch to
streaming for $7.99 a month.

2077
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:29,360
See, I think like Dean said,
it's tripled.

2078
01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:38,840
I think my Netflix bill right
now is Winnie $5 yeah.

2079
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,200
Only because you probably got
the HD.

2080
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:44,440
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, because I'm not.

2081
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:47,040
I mean, if I'm most, if I'm
going to pay the stream, I'm not

2082
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:48,200
going to watch.
No crap.

2083
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:49,200
Not right.
Exactly.

2084
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:54,000
Not getting dead.
And so now it's that thing where

2085
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:57,240
you know how you know, you could
have a channel that you have

2086
01:58:57,240 --> 01:59:01,440
like for instance, I would only
get stars for Outlander and then

2087
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:03,840
once out later was done, I
didn't have stars anymore.

2088
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:07,400
But the way this is turning out,
if it's going to be on Netflix,

2089
01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:11,120
that's great because now I can
just even though I get HBO for

2090
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:14,360
free with my Internet, but like,
let's say I didn't get it for

2091
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:16,800
free, I wouldn't have to pay for
it because it's going to be out

2092
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:19,680
of my Netflix.
The problem is that there's

2093
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:23,240
they're going to raise that
price about 34345 more times

2094
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,480
because they got to make up for
what they doing right now.

2095
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:28,440
And here's the thing, y'all
better merge these streaming

2096
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:31,840
platforms because I'm not going
to pay for Netflix and HBO Max.

2097
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:36,760
Look, can you talk about it?
That's yeah.

2098
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:38,880
And then like, it's getting
ridiculous.

2099
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:40,120
It won't.
Then he owns.

2100
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:44,080
All of this and they own, you
know, like, come on, it's just

2101
01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:48,160
well at.
Least at least Disney said it's

2102
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:50,760
going to move all the Hulu stuff
to Disney Plus.

2103
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:54,080
Yeah.
Yeah, but the other thing with

2104
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:59,400
the Netflix deal that people are
talking about, physical media is

2105
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:02,240
going to end up going away.
I'm about to start going to the

2106
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:06,440
pawn shops and the thrift stores
and buying up stuff because if

2107
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:09,280
it gets to a point where
everything streaming is

2108
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:13,160
streaming exclusive, we ain't
going to have a show.

2109
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:17,960
Adam's best friend literally
just said that he going to get

2110
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:21,480
rid of everything and he going
to do that digital, digital

2111
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:25,200
antenna and he going to watch
DVDs because you can't The he's

2112
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:29,160
like, his main complaint is this
don't have a license, that the

2113
02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:31,840
license is over here now.
It's a move from this platform

2114
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:33,760
to that platform.
He should have it.

2115
02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:37,600
Owns it, but right now it's
being licensed for Netflix, so

2116
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:41,040
you got to, you know, like just,
you know, come on man, what are

2117
02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:43,080
y'all?
Doing like if y'all were going

2118
02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:45,120
to do all this shit I would have
just stayed with cable.

2119
02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:47,280
Right.
Just stay with cable and be done

2120
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:49,680
with it.
And now that don't even seem

2121
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:54,120
feasible because half the stuff
you can get on cable, but some

2122
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:56,520
of the stuff is exclusive to
streaming.

2123
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:00,280
So it's like they they really
are just looking for ways to get

2124
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:02,960
in our pocket.
If if you want to see, I'm not

2125
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:05,120
going to go into it, but if you
want to see what's really going

2126
02:01:05,120 --> 02:01:09,760
to happen, look at what the NBA
is doing and then that's going

2127
02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:13,840
to really mess you up about what
these streaming services is

2128
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:17,280
going to do.
But that's also like why they

2129
02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:21,600
cut so many shows and like we
have nothing but sports and game

2130
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:25,040
shows on because they know no
like scripted shows.

2131
02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:27,520
It's sports and game shows.
Yeah.

2132
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:29,960
Yeah, yeah.
But what the NBA is doing with

2133
02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:34,480
all the games on every platform,
like you can't.

2134
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:39,320
Like I want to watch Golden
State Warriors tonight, they're

2135
02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:41,480
on Peacock.
I don't have a Peacock

2136
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:45,200
subscription.
And this night they're on ESPNI

2137
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:47,880
don't have a cable subscription.
And this night they're on

2138
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:49,840
YouTube.
It's like, what?

2139
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:52,760
What are we doing, guys?
What are we doing?

2140
02:01:53,680 --> 02:01:54,400
Wow.
Yeah.

2141
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:58,160
So don't get too attached to
this show, ladies and gentlemen.

2142
02:01:58,160 --> 02:01:59,200
That's the point.
We're trying to.

2143
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:00,080
Make.
That's the point.

2144
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:02,320
Don't, don't get, don't get the
whole set.

2145
02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:06,120
Don't get too attached.
But they have a what they will,

2146
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:09,520
yeah, because I was going to say
they they came out with what, a

2147
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:12,680
four year plan or a five year
plan as far as what they were

2148
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:16,800
going to do with this show.
Yeah, but you know how that

2149
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:19,480
goes.
But cancel Alicia AKA Netflix

2150
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:23,000
don't know good shows.
They can smack them in the face,

2151
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:26,640
cancel all the good shows and
put all the trash shows on.

2152
02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:29,480
Yeah, like I talked to some
people at work and I'm like, oh,

2153
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:31,120
have y'all watched it?
Is that oh, we're going to wait

2154
02:02:31,120 --> 02:02:33,240
for all of them to come out to
start watching it?

2155
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:37,720
Netflix don't play that crap if
people don't watch it and Benji

2156
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:42,120
in the first was in 15 to 30 day
they cancel it and.

2157
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:46,480
Even if people are watching it
and it's good, if it comes right

2158
02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:49,280
they will cancel it.
Shadow and bone.

2159
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:51,480
Excuse me, I'm sorry.
I'm still I'm.

2160
02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:54,040
Still salty about it, still mad
about it, Yeah.

2161
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:59,240
I'm I'm still mad about that.
Yeah, with that metry they use

2162
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:04,600
to, if people are not watching
it in droves and binging it,

2163
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:07,240
they're not that that they're
not going to keep it.

2164
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:10,600
That's just how they roll,
because they dump all their

2165
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:13,960
shows at one time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2166
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:16,320
Unless it's something like
Stranger Things, but they,

2167
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:19,200
because they know people are
going to watch Stranger Things.

2168
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:22,160
So that's, that's not one of
those shows that people are,

2169
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:24,440
Yeah, that's not one of those
shows that people are going to

2170
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:25,840
be like, oh, I'm just going to
weigh.

2171
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:31,000
And no Stranger Things.
I mean literally I turn my TV on

2172
02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:35,880
at 8:00 when Stranger Things dry
the day before Thanksgiving and

2173
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:39,400
it took me 5 minutes to get on
it because Netflix crashed

2174
02:03:39,400 --> 02:03:41,840
because everybody named Mama was
trying to watch it at the same.

2175
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:44,640
Time they figured out with they
feed out with strange things,

2176
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:49,200
they can do it halfway.
We just going to drop 4 episodes

2177
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:55,640
at once instead of all 8 or 9.
It is going to parse it out, but

2178
02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:57,720
we're still going to drop it all
at once.

2179
02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:01,480
Because what they do is they get
us the fans who are like

2180
02:04:01,480 --> 02:04:04,840
hardcore die hard fans in and
then we talk about it so much

2181
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:06,720
online and he were like, God dog
it.

2182
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:09,200
I got to go watch dog on blah
blah.

2183
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:12,680
And so then they want to jump in
and watch in between time and

2184
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:14,280
then.
So by the time they release the

2185
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:17,480
rest of it, everybody watching.
Yeah, I got friends.

2186
02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:22,440
I got friends right now who are
starting Season 1, episode 1 of

2187
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:23,520
Strange.
Yeah, yeah.

2188
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:25,520
They do.
They do that with Bridgeton.

2189
02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:27,560
We've been waiting for how long?
And they.

2190
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:28,360
Oh.
Whatever.

2191
02:04:28,680 --> 02:04:30,800
Couple episodes here couple of
times.

2192
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:36,440
Here, Really.
Yeah, yeah, like we are.

2193
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:41,000
It's been over a year.
It's going to be two years

2194
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:43,080
before the next season come out
from Bridgerton.

2195
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:47,040
Yeah, and you know the.
Last season came out last

2196
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:49,120
summer.
Yeah, and it was.

2197
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:51,160
Really, a specific seasons have
costumes.

2198
02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:56,480
Yeah, like they they used to
have shows, 26 episodes a

2199
02:04:56,520 --> 02:05:00,680
season, 7 time reruns.
I miss network.

2200
02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:03,840
TV days back to but now I mean
7.

2201
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:07,760
Episodes and we we we and money
like we getting 26.

2202
02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:11,360
Episodes ain't a lot.
I got Michelle, I started

2203
02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:15,720
Michelle watching Chicago Mid
with me.

2204
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:19,040
We, I'm like, wait, what season
are we on?

2205
02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:22,560
Season 2.
Season 3.

2206
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:26,080
Because it's taking a long time.
We're talking to that with Sbis

2207
02:05:27,160 --> 02:05:32,000
and we're just like.
That's just like with the boys.

2208
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:36,640
The boys is the boys is coming
back in where we got our last

2209
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:38,680
April.
They've been gone almost three

2210
02:05:38,680 --> 02:05:41,480
years so.
Yeah, and.

2211
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:46,080
These long.
I think so, but but.

2212
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:47,400
You.
Only I get.

2213
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:50,800
But I get I get that special
effects.

2214
02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:53,280
Yeah, but you?
Only get fridge and pin is a

2215
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:54,800
dress.
Right.

2216
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:56,480
Well, that's what I was going to
say.

2217
02:05:56,480 --> 02:05:58,800
That's the thing about because
it's popular.

2218
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:03,480
And sick, right?
Jenny and Georgia, they spin

2219
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:06,160
that out every other day.
What's her name?

2220
02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:09,120
And Paris, Emily and Paris.
Every other week they got a new

2221
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:11,840
season to Emily and Paris.
The only thing that stopped,

2222
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:15,080
stopped.
What's the last?

2223
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:16,880
The first one you just mentioned
I can't think of.

2224
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:18,960
Oh.
Jenny and Jordan.

2225
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:21,360
Jenny and Jordan, it's only
because of the riders stripe.

2226
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:23,800
Yeah, and they're not going to
do that again because the little

2227
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:26,920
boy went from 5th grade to look
like he in high school.

2228
02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:30,640
That little boy in what?
And we had.

2229
02:06:30,640 --> 02:06:34,440
To put we had to make him like
fit back into like four months

2230
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:36,120
later.
Yeah, put your Harry Potter

2231
02:06:36,160 --> 02:06:37,120
glasses on, baby.
Right.

2232
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:41,360
Yeah, but yeah, like slump over
a little bit.

2233
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:44,720
You know, welcome to Derry.
I was like, Jesus, that boy is

2234
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:46,520
big.
Now he is big.

2235
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:48,240
And you can't, you can't do
that.

2236
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:49,520
It's crazy.
It's crazy.

2237
02:06:49,520 --> 02:06:52,960
But like, but like, Dennis said,
the point is audience don't get

2238
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:56,440
too attached.
But you can't get attached to

2239
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:59,080
anything.
Like I feel like anymore, like

2240
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:02,920
every time something to be good,
it's like, oh, we're going to

2241
02:07:02,920 --> 02:07:04,080
cancel it.
Why?

2242
02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:05,760
Why we cancel it?
You got good ratings.

2243
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:08,920
Yeah, but, you know, it's too
much money.

2244
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:11,520
We're losing money.
Or, you know, they'll just scrap

2245
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:14,000
a whole movie after they film a
whole movie and decide they

2246
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:16,600
don't want to put it out their.
Background or even an episode.

2247
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:21,560
I'm I'm still mad about that
Game of Thrones spin off that

2248
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:25,040
got cancelled.
They filmed, what, a $30 million

2249
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:29,520
pilot episode and nothing?
And they had big names attached

2250
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:33,760
to that.
So yeah, I'm still mad about

2251
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:36,360
that because was supposed to be
in it.

2252
02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:38,040
Indeed.
Whatever their names was.

2253
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:42,400
So they thought that's why.
Yeah, could be.

2254
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:46,560
But OK, look, we have, we have
been in the weeds long enough.

2255
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:50,080
Y'all got anything final to say
about this episode before we get

2256
02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,960
like completely devastated with
whatever's about to happen in

2257
02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:58,400
these next two episodes?
Real is the only one marked as

2258
02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:00,800
safe.
Yeah, Will and Lee.

2259
02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:04,720
Roy and his Yeah, I must say.
And Dick, those three.

2260
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:08,480
Yeah, that's it.
They're the only ones.

2261
02:08:09,680 --> 02:08:16,000
And look and penny wise we know,
he said he mark say.

2262
02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:22,680
And curse.
Yeah, she say.

2263
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:26,040
Well I just safe as a
relationship with her.

2264
02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:31,480
I mean, in the movie is, yeah,
that was pretty wise.

2265
02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:34,760
Pretend to be her.
So that don't necessarily we

2266
02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:37,560
don't know.
She still lived to be a little

2267
02:08:37,560 --> 02:08:40,160
bit older.
At least for him to be able to

2268
02:08:40,160 --> 02:08:43,400
mark be her as an older woman,
she had to live a little bit

2269
02:08:43,400 --> 02:08:44,200
longer, right?
That's.

2270
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:48,560
True.
Maybe he just put he just acted

2271
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:51,160
like she would have in the old
woman body.

2272
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:55,400
We don't know.
She ain't really Mark safe

2273
02:08:55,480 --> 02:08:55,920
either.
Yeah.

2274
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:03,440
OK, so I guess we will see with
episodes 7:00 and 8:00, but for

2275
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:07,400
now, that is it for our show.
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2276
02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:11,680
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2277
02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:13,360
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2278
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:16,240
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2279
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:18,800
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2280
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:21,680
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