Marvel's What If...? S3E1 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #327

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Mike and we are discussing
the return of Marvel's What If

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series for the third and final
season, Episode 1.

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It's so good, Marvel presents
Pacific Rim versus Godzilla.

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So I was actually thinking of it
as if the Hulk, Godzilla and

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Gizmo had a baby.
It will be this episode.

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Not just because of the apex
creature, but I mean there were

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so many.
Like watching this episode, I

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was thinking about you and I was
like, Mike is going to enjoy

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this because there are so many
80s references.

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So many.
First of all, they started it

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out like a vintage 80s cartoon
for The Avengers, and it was

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talking about how The Avengers
had to save the world from these

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apex beings because of the Hulk,
blah blah blah blah blah.

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And you have this girl, she's
like trying to get it to work

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because it stops.
And then all of a sudden she

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finds that she is actually in
basically the world that she was

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just watching on watching on the
Internet.

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Yeah, I I love that because the
cartoon looked like it looked

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like those The Amazing Spider
Man cartoons.

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Like it had it had like the same
kind of vibe to it.

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And shout out to them for giving
Tony Stark marvelous fucking

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hair in that thing.
Like his shit was just like.

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Who is this?
Not Tony Stark.

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He looks like he needs to be.
What's what?

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What was his name?
Was it Fabio?

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The guy who used to be on the
romance covers?

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Yeah.
Yeah, he was definitely techie

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Fabio.
And that that was like, that

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shit is magnificent.
Damn, him and Thor had

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magnificent hair.
I was like, shit.

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Right, so the episode is about
the Gamma Wars, which has to do

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with Hulk's character.
Very in depth and one of the

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things I like about this episode
and actually one of the things

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that I love about what if, and
this is something we have talked

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about before, is because they
take Marvel characters from

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seemingly different, not
necessarily universes, but you

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have characters who have never
interacted together before and

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they throw them into these team
UPS and you look at them and

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you're like, why can't I get
this in live action?

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Because when I saw the names at
the beginning of the episode, we

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had Oscar Isaac.
I was like, wait, we're getting

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moon night in this episode.
You had similar you.

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I was like Shang Shi, I'm here
for I didn't even know what the

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episode was about.
I was just looking and then you

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see Tiana pair.
What?

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Wait, we get a Monica Rambo too.
This episode had them all and it

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was so much fun because.
I had to figure Red Guardian,

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Red Guardian and.
Molina.

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And what's her name?
And Molina, even though it was

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resident Rachel Weisz and it had
the key I was trying to figure

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out.
The first time I watched, I was

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like, who is the what?
Condon.

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I was like, it's not Shuri.
I was like, oh, it's Nokia.

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Nokia.
But it's not Lupita.

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No, I think she and Rachel were
the only two original actresses

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who were not in this episode.
But you had Anthony Mackie, you

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had Sebastian Stan, you had.
Yana Paris, David Harbour

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symbol.
View.

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So.
Mark Ruffalo So I was so excited

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when I saw all the names 'cause
I was like, OK, this story is

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about to be bananas.
Bananas.

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It was bananas, but it was
bananas in a good way.

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I loved it.
So again, we're talking about

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the Gamma Wars, and this one is
focused on the Hulk.

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And you see the beginning of the
episode where you have the whole

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or excuse me, you have Bruce
Banner and Sam Wilson doing the

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whole running around the block
and on your left.

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But instead of Cap, no being the
one, or instead of Steve Rogers

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being the one who was kind of
making the circles around Sam,

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it was Sam making the circles
around Bruce Banner.

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And they strike up a friendship.
And of course, one of the things

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about Bruce Banner in all of the
movies is that he is heavily

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burdened by the Hulk's presence
and how, you know, his

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destructive nature and it kind
of takes a toll on his

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personality.
And so that's kind of where we

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are with the start of this story
because Bruce goes to Sam's

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support group for therapy to
kind of, you know, try to get

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some help, try to get some
clarity about how he feels about

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having to share the his body
with the Hulk.

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And then he decides which
really, Bruce, you're supposed

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to be smarter than this.
But he decides that if Gamma was

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the reason why the hope became
into existence, he figures that

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he will try to do something
using Gamma to reverse.

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I know Mike shaking his head to
reverse what was done.

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To try to, to try to expel the
hope from himself.

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And I'm like.
Oh, he did some expelling all

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right.
I mean, how are you so smart and

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so stupid?
Let's go back real quick.

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How about Sam going really
simple instead of incredibly

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complex?
Like he was like, I've tried

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yoga.
I've tried being spiritual that

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he's like, have you tried
talking to somebody?

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He's like, huh, I'm like the
bullshit.

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It's like, you know, I mean, and
it actually worked for a second.

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If you wouldn't kind of hit by
that boom on Sam's Sam's boat,

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he might have been OK.
Yeah.

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But then he changed back and
went off and decided, you know,

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I'm going to tell myself with
more gamma radiation because,

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you know, that's not that's not
going to make make the whole do

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anything weird, right?
No, I'm like, you're so smart,

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You're stupid.
It's like why are you trying to

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you you keep trying to take a
solution to this and it's like

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you basically he basically gave
me a solution.

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When you talk to him, you were
pretty much in control.

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It's like, you know, he did and
he's just too smart for his own

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good.
And here we go.

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He gets and split the animation
for the split of the a him from

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the apex.
Yes.

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Oh my God.
But again, another 80s reference

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because I'm looking at this and
basically what happens is I

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guess the Hulk part, the the bad
part of the Hulk splits from

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Bruce Banner and then he starts
I guess expelling.

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It's literally Gizmo and Stripe.
It's literally.

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Gizmo and Stripe, yes.
And that's what I was thinking.

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I was like, oh, so we got
Gremlins in the in the Marvel

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Universe.
And then then he spawns the

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other ones from popping off his
back and I'm like oh that's 100%

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gremlins like yo.
And that's not a good thing,

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because if they're not.
Good at.

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All if they're anywhere near as
destructive as the gremlins

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were, then yeah, and.
And we see they they're. 1000

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times the size.
It's like.

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Right, so you, you basically
have this war with this apex

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being being the Hulk and these
thousands of little hulks or

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whatever you want to I, I forgot
what they called them.

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But so it it becomes this huge
war because The Avengers are,

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you know, they're trying to
fight them.

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They're trying to defeat them.
They can't defeat them on their

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own.
So they end up with these tech

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suits that they use to try to
fight them and they still can't

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beat them.
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tech suits, I was like, OK, so
am I watching Voltron or am I

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watching Gobots or am I watching
Pacific Rim or it was just.

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Watching G Force, I mean it's
basically every 80s anime just

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balled up together in one.
I'm telling you, this episode

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was a love letter to the 80s
because because of the

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references, even at one point
when when the Hulk is fighting,

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you hear the sound effect that
you used to hear in the

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Incredible Hulk show back in the
70s and 80s when he's trying to

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hear the I can't, I can't
duplicate the sound.

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You're like $6 million, man.
Yes, 6,000,000.

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Dollar, is that what it was?
OK.

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Yes, Yeah, yes.
I was like wow. 80s love fest.

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It really was.
That was awesome.

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But what happens in the episode
is ten years after this first

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gamma war, supposedly they they
defeated these gamma beasts,

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they sunk to the bottom of the
ocean.

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It's 10 years of peace.
And then all of a sudden you

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hear something on the radar.
You see something on the radar

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like, oh, we're getting a gamma
signature here where it's not

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supposed to be one.
OK, y'all already know.

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Y'all should have went into this
knowing you.

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That's why you always, you
always double tap, you always

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make sure make sure that the job
is done.

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You got to make, you got to make
sure that the the apex is dead.

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If the apex is not dead, the
job's not done.

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It's like you know he's going to
come back sometime.

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It's like you, you have to make
sure that happens.

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It's like what?
And it's like I.

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Don't know.
So Sam obviously is in charge of

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this group of Avengers and you
have, you have Sam Wilson, you

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have Monica Rambo, you have a
very different looking monkey

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Barnes, because I didn't even
realize that was Bucky when I

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first saw him because I'm not
used to him with the short knee

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haircut.
It was just weird.

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And I'm sitting here looking
like that sounds like Sebastian

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Stan, but it doesn't look like
Bucky and he doesn't act like

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Bucky.
But of course, this is a

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different version of Bucky.
You have she as part of it.

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We got fucking moon night, which
is why I'm wearing moon night

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shirt.
Not in the way that we wanted

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him because I'm still waiting
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but right now I will take him
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I was so excited when I saw
Oscar Isaac's name in the

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opening credits.
I was like, yes, we're getting

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Moon Night and oh, Mike is going
to Mike is going to blow his

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lid.
I.

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Yep, and and he's Mark Spector
instead of He was Mark Spector

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in this too, so it's.
Well, that makes sense because I

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don't think, I think Steven, in
the iteration that we met him

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before he kind of realized what
he was and who he was, I don't

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think he would have fit well in
this version of events.

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Like we needed the the the
person who is the the fighter,

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the soldier, the one who can get
some shit done.

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And Jake, Jake is too off the
wall.

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Like Jake.
Jake would have just gotten

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everybody killed.
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And technically speaking, we've
only like very briefly met Jake.

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So I don't think it would have
made sense for them to put him

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in.
It's because everybody body

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would be like OK so why are
y'all giving us this version of

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the character and we couldn't
even get his story yet so.

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Right, man, Mark.
Mark's definitely the better

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tactician of the two that we've
met.

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So it's like, yeah, it makes 100
percent, 100% makes sense.

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And he was really good in this
album.

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I mean, the little bit I got, I
was like, OK, I'm happy.

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That'll work.
Yeah, I thought it was very

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funny that the Red Guardian and
Molina were part of The Avengers

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crew.
Yeah, he's like, you know, he

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didn't never set foot in Mother
Russia.

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Yeah, but you ran.
He was like, I was drawing him

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away.
They did.

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The two of the bickering was
just hilarious.

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And it's like the whole time,
she never cracked a smile.

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She was just sitting there.
He was behind like, yeah, He's

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like, she was like, yeah,
whatever.

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Yeah.
Was awesome.

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I, I enjoyed it because I like
seeing how they interact with

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each other.
And then in this one, like I

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said, Sam is obvious the leader.
And then you have Monica is I

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guess kind of like his second
cuz every time you saw him in a

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position of command, it was him,
Monica and Bucky.

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And Monica, even though she's
the 2nd and in command, you

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almost feel like she's kind of
sort of in charge too because

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Sam would give her order.
She'd be like, OK, over on the

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side.
Hey, Bucky, I know he said don't

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do this, but I need you to go do
this.

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I need you to go find out this
information.

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Because at this point, 10 years
after the Gamma Wars, Bruce

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Banner has fallen off the radar
because he realized that instead

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of making things better with the
Hulk, he actually made them

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worse.
Like brought the world to the

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brink of war.
No, excuse me, not even the

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brink of war brought war.
So.

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Yeah, but technically it wasn't
really his fault though.

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I mean, it's like I understand
him feeling responsible, but

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it's like, no.
We're not going to do that.

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We're not going to do that.
Talking about it's not his fault

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who sat him in the chair with
the gamma rays, he did that.

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Sam didn't put him in that
chair, no.

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That's what I'm saying it was.
Oh, no, Yeah.

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Oh, you were saying?
I'm saying that Sam didn't want

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to go see him because he felt
responsible for how he turned

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down and for him to want to do
that.

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Yeah.
And I'm like, that's not his

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fault.
Like you did all you could do,

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right?
It's like that's on.

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That's on Bruce.
Bruce did that shit on his own.

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So yeah, I'm with you on that.
OK, so I thought you were

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talking about Bruce, but yeah, I
mean, Sam has a little bit of

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guilt, but then also at the same
time, he knows that Bruce will

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probably be able to help them,
but he's reluctant to go and

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seek him out.
He was like, no, we're not going

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to bother him.
It it's already too much for him

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and he he won't, I think also he
feels like Bruce may not be able

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to handle it, but it's just one
of those things where Bruce I

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think he could handle it, but
he's feeling guilty because of

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the mess that he's created.
And then Sam, like you said, Sam

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is feeling guilty because he
feels like he didn't help Bruce

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out enough.
And I'm like, OK, first of all,

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y'all with Sam, you gotta
understand Bruce is a grown ass

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man.
He needs to take responsibility.

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But also you can't tiptoe around
him just because you feel like,

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oh, if I say something that'll
get him mad, we're going to have

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Hulk issues and Bruce is the one
who fucked everything up.

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Bruce needs to take
accountability.

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He needs to come and help fix
it, which he kind of, sort of

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does at first.
That shit could have gone left

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so bad.
It really could have.

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It really could have.
But he created this program

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which basically is the the
Voltron thing, as I mentioned,

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where he the, the tech machines,
the the mechanical suits.

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Yeah, yeah, they would merge
together and become powerful

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enough to fight this apex being
because of course, 10 years

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after they thought that they
defeated them, they come back

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and they come back with
thousands.

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And you know, it's like you
said, they didn't double tap.

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So what happens the the numbers
multiply and they were in water

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at that.
I don't know if that was on

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purpose, but there's thousands
of them now, and if you could,

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if you barely defeated them the
first time and those numbers

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were nowhere near what they are
now, Yeah, Y'all need to go find

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some other y'all better, Y'all
better call to space, call the

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watcher.
Hey, can you help?

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But we don't even know, like I
don't even know if this is in

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the same timeline as the stories
from season 1 to season 2

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because The Watcher is very much
out of the picture at this

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point.
So we don't know if if these

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stories in season 3 are going to
merge.

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What happened in Season 2?
Yeah, I think, I think when they

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released the titles, there's
going to be something where the

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Watcher gets in trouble for
intervening and stuff, but

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that's way further down the
line.

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But this is like for the
beginning and for our purposes

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in the beginning, like nobody is
like Captain cartering this.

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Like they're not the ones they
can't hear.

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They can't hear the Watcher like
monologuing out on the side or

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anything like that.
But it's like, I mean, I thought

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I was the I'm looking at at a
thing, looking at the power

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structure.
And I was thinking, I was like,

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you know what?
It makes sense because Bucky,

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Rambo and Sam are the only ones
that actually have military rank

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and they're all captains.
So basically they're Co

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captains.
OK.

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So it's like that it makes sense
that they're in that they're

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leading, leading everything
because they're actually they

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actually have leadership
experience.

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So it's like, and then there's
and Sam smart enough to have

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people to defer to as as opposed
to just being cap and being

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calling on shots.
He's like, you know, I, you guys

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have valuable experience.
So y'all, I need y'all to do

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this with me because that that
way I have someone to bounce

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stuff off of.
So that makes sense.

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But I mean, yeah, let's, let's,
let's go, let's go ahead and

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talk about that.
Talk about Hopezilla, that

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motherfucker.
Holy shit.

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So like I said, at at at at
first when the apex being

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separated from him, I thought
Godzilla because of the tail.

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And then when I looked at the
structure of him, I was like,

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no, he looks like something
else.

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And then towards the end, when
Bruce does come back and what he

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does is he takes an old nuclear
weapon, a nuclear bomb that was

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in his hideout when Sam went to
go find him.

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That, he said, wasn't active.
That, he said wasn't active.

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He kind of did something.
What did he say?

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He gave the bomb.
He put a, he put a gamma core

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inside of it.
Right.

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So that it would so that when it
exploded, he would absorb all of

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the gamma radiation.
And here he goes again, like no,

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don't do this.
He's trying to size the fucking

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solution again.
Like well, I mean, it kind of

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worked this time.
Yeah, but it's like, but it's

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like.
Bro.

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He set off, and he set off a
Gamma nuclear bomb in New York.

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Yeah, but they had already
evacuated.

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So I mean, what whatever he did
with that gamma, with that gamma

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bomb was not anything worse than
the Apex creature and all the

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thousands of other creatures
throwing The Avengers and mocks

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all around the city.
So he didn't really do any more

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damage.
I mean, it's kind of like

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Independence Day when they were
getting ready to set off the

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noose.
They're like where everybody is

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already evacuated.
So the damages should be minimum

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because we'll stand in the city
with all of that.

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You'd be surprised.
And people were saying, remember

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Independence Day?
People were on top of buildings

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trying to welcome the damn
aliens.

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And when the movie started.
This was before the aliens

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attacked and they weren't quite
sure what was going to happen.

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So we can't really, you can't
really compare.

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But if?
You know, these days people are

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stupid.
You know, they want they'll

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stay.
They'll stay for streams and be

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like, they'll be like, they'll
be had their headphones be like,

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yeah, we're right here.
The bus is right here.

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Oh shit.
Yeah, you're right.

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They would do that.
But when when the Hulk does

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absorb all the gamma radiation
and he grows and he turns into

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the creature, I'm like, OK, no,
he's Godzilla.

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And that's why I was thinking I
was like the other one.

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Now, it's been a long time since
I've seen the older Godzilla

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movies, but I I think I
distinctly remember it might not

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have been Mothra, but I
distinctly remember there was a

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which.
One the ones with the people in

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the suits or like the more
recent ones.

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The no, I'm thinking like the
older ones because was there not

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a creature that almost looked
like he was in a samurai suit

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'cause that's kind of what this
creature reminded me of.

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But I'm trying to remember if
I'm if I'm remembering.

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There were there were other that
God.

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There were so many other shows
that had that had characters

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that were.
And that's what I'm like, yeah.

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That looked like mix and like
that look that that look like

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samurai, big samurai mix.
But I'm I'm trying to think if

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there was a monster, I mean,
there could have been.

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There's so there's so many
monsters.

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It's like, yeah, it honestly
could have been.

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But him but him turning into
that, into the gods, that Hulk,

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Zilla, whatever we want to call
it.

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I was like, wait, so is he going
to be able to change back?

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He might not, so he.
Absorbed a lot.

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Yeah, yeah.
I mean to the point where he was

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breathing gamma fire and that
was how he got rid of the apex

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creature.
He melted him with the with the

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gamma fire.
I mean he was like the gamma

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Highlander.
Is this just like when the

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Highlander kill somebody and he
absorbed the electricity and

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shit is like he like he like
took he took that big hit of

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gamma radiation from burning
burning.

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Another guy was like there can
only be 1 and I was like, OK,

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and then when he roared and all
all all the other all the other

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mini meets with yeah, they.
Were like, oh, you're the boss

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now we worship.
It.

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We follow you.
Yeah.

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Which is what?
Which is what they figured what

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happened once they were they
were like, OK, So what is Bruce

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about to do?
And why is he about to do this

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knowing that, you know, they,
they feared that he wouldn't be

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able to handle all of that.
And then Sam was the one who

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figured out no.
So yeah, this is what he's

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doing.
He, he's going to try to beat

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the apex so that he can become
the apex, you know, beat the

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alpha, become the alpha.
OK, that, that makes sense.

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But now you have Bruce as this
big ass creature with all these

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little bitty ass creatures
following him and they literally

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travel through this through the
ocean to get back to his little

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bunker inside of a volcano.
And I'm just like, so are we

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sure they're not going to do any
damage 'cause even even though

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Bruce came in to help them,
after he defeated, defeated the

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Apex, he turned around like he
was about to take them.

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And Sean, she was like, Nope,
guns.

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And what was it, Moon night?
No, no, no, that was that was

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that was Mark.
That was the moon night when I

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was like Nope, Crack Country
says hit him.

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No, I think Sean, she said
something about that too.

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Because Sean, she was like,
Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope.

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Yeah, and then Sam had his Moana
moment with him that was like

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Susie was walking up.
I was like, is this this the end

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of Moana?
The first Moana?

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Like when the when the when the
fucking when the the lava

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creature was walking towards her
and he she walked towards her

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and like turned her back into
the right into the forest.

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God, I was like, they're Moana
in this shit.

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I was like, OK, yeah, but it's
like that shit was crazy.

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Like he he was looking into his
eye.

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I was like, I like Sam's better
than me.

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But see, that's who they're
that's who they're trying to get

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Sam to be in the in the MCU.
He's like the guy that he's not

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going to solve it with gunfire
and bombs.

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He's going to solve it with,
with dialogue and with, with

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trying to like get you to calm
down.

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It's like that's what, that's
the kind of cap he's going to

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be.
But I mean, we saw that in

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Falcon in The Winter Soldier.
And they're, and they're just

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reinforcing it that that's
probably what they're going to

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do in the movie, in the movie
too, is like they're going to

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show how how he he works with
his mind before he tries to work

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with weaponry.
So I mean, this just goes right.

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It falls right along with what
he does.

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And it was awesome.
And he was just like, I mean,

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Bruce was just I, I can, I mean,
I get I'm glad that Bruce took

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ownership of what he did and but
it's just like, you gotta get

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some healing, bro.
Like this is it looks like you

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gotta figure that shit out like.
I don't know if there's that

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much healing in the world.
I don't know either at this

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point.
Because, well, one, I mean, oh,

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and then I'm looking out, I'm
watching it in the background.

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And when they did that final
shot of him yelling and they did

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the face close, close up, he
looked like.

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That was like the Tyrannosaurus
in Jurassic Park.

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I was.
Like he looks like thing.

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They all look like Thing.
They all look like a combination

446
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,920
of the Hulk and the Thing.
It's like they all was like, I

447
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,680
was like, everybody's clobbering
us at once.

448
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,040
Like what the hell?
Right.

449
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,600
But.
Yeah, yeah.

450
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,720
As far as Bruce goes, like in
this particular version of him,

451
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,600
I don't know if Bruce still
exists.

452
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,400
I think at this point with the
being that he is and with the

453
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,560
the creatures that he now
controls and the fact that he's

454
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:43,920
gone off to his little, you
know, exclusive island for a

455
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,920
probably permanent vacation.
I yeah, I think Bruce is is

456
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,240
done.
I don't think there's any coming

457
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,840
back from this, especially with
the amount of gamma radiation he

458
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,320
he absorbed this time.
Yeah, I think there's a little

459
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,720
bit in him, but I don't think
that it's going he's going to be

460
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,960
able to become brute like human
brutes again.

461
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,760
It's like like that's probably
out is like he'll probably, I

462
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,880
don't think he'll be he'll be
like a talking Godzilla either.

463
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,240
I just think that he, like
there's part of him, part of it

464
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,920
still in him, but he's just not
going to be able to effectively

465
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,120
communicate what's going on.
Like he's, I mean, it's like

466
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:25,920
he's, he won't be able to talk.
So it's like he's just be Bruce

467
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,040
grunting and growling all the
time.

468
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,760
And yeah, I think.
This version, I think this

469
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,000
version of him is probably at
peace, Yeah.

470
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,040
Like he he did the thing that he
was supposed to do.

471
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:45,360
He was able to correct his
wrongs before anything more

472
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:49,160
destructive happened because I
don't even think this version of

473
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,680
the Apex and the the followers
were able to do much damage

474
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,760
because The Avengers kind of cut
them off before they really got

475
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,280
into the city.
And then they, you know, they

476
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,680
combined into the, I forgot what
he called it, the, the Something

477
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,560
protocol.
Mega mega Mega avenger Mega

478
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:17,480
Avenger protocol.
So, so yeah, I, I think since he

479
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:23,600
was able to do that, he was able
to avert disaster for a second

480
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,120
time, keeping people safe.
And you know, none of the other

481
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,800
Avengers, none of the newer
Avengers failed because if I

482
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,400
remember correctly, the other
Avengers I think died in the

483
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,720
first Gamma War.
So.

484
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,640
Right.
Well, yeah, it I, I, that's kind

485
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,960
of, I don't know.
It's they made, they kind of

486
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,320
suggested it, but it did mean
they I, I right say they said

487
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,840
they got beaten, but they didn't
say they got killed.

488
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,760
They said they were falling and
generally that means yeah.

489
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,280
Yeah, OK.
Yeah.

490
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,720
Because if they were just
defeated and just sent the, you

491
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,640
know, go home with their tail
between their legs, I think

492
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,520
those.
They would have come back, yeah.

493
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,120
Yeah, they would have come back
to help with this, this version

494
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,520
of it.
So yeah, I think they were all

495
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,920
pretty much gone because if I'm
not mistaken, in the beginning

496
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,520
you did see the main Avengers as
far as Tony Stark, Cap, Thor,

497
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,160
Black Widow.
I can't remember if I saw

498
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,720
Hawkeye, but yeah, yeah,
Hawkeye.

499
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,040
Was in there too.
OK, OK.

500
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,640
So, yeah, I think at this point,
Bruce probably feels at peace

501
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,080
because he's like, OK, I averted
a crisis.

502
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:43,960
And, you know, he was able to, I
guess, see from Sam's point of

503
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,880
view that he's not necessarily a
monster, that there's still a

504
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,720
decent person inside him, and
the decent person did what they

505
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,000
needed to do.
And so, I mean, he can't exactly

506
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,680
live with them on land in his
current form.

507
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,800
So, you know what?
Go away, live in peace.

508
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,560
Yeah, and once again, Tony Stark
gets killed.

509
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,360
And what if like, damn it, this
this can't leave my man alone

510
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,720
Like.
I think that's Tony Stark, and

511
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,400
what if is going to be the Sean
Bean of.

512
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,160
Basically.
Of this series, like we'll see

513
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,040
him die in many iterations and
this is only the first episode

514
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,200
this this season has what is it
8 episodes?

515
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,240
I think so.
OK.

516
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,120
And this is the final.
Season.

517
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,080
Yeah, yeah.
So, but yeah, like I said, I

518
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,600
think my my favorite part of
this episode was seeing all of

519
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,200
the characters come together.
And I really hope we get to see

520
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,880
more of them because it's been
what, three years since Shang

521
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,120
Shi came out?
Three years since Moon Night

522
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,640
came out or two years maybe.
And we don't really have any

523
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:03,240
news about seeing those
characters again in, in the MCU.

524
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,600
So if I can just get them here
in, in what if.

525
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,000
And I think I know that Shang
Shi is going to be in one other

526
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,840
episode because I did see in the
trailer, there is a cowboy

527
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,000
version of him, which I'm really
interested in.

528
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:26,560
So we'll get to see them here.
But now it's just kind of like

529
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,200
I, I want to, I want to see my
characters back in live action.

530
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,800
I I especially want to see Moon
Night because y'all left us on

531
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:40,200
such a cliffhanger with the
reveal of Jake that OK, y'all

532
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,920
just going to leave us hanging
like that?

533
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,720
Yeah, but yeah.
You got to pay that off.

534
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Yeah, but we know MCU is going
through some some changes right

535
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,520
now.
We don't even know what.

536
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,640
Like it's gotten to the point
where I start seeing stuff about

537
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,240
what's supposed to come out and
I don't even pay attention to

538
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,520
it.
Like I might share it with you

539
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,960
guys or I might share it.
But deep down inside, I've I've

540
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,480
kind of taken on the attitude of
Anthony, like, OK, I'm just

541
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,400
going to wait and see because I
don't want to get disappointed,

542
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,080
you know, with them saying, oh,
we're going to do this, we're

543
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,200
going to do that.
Like I think there was something

544
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,880
that was released last week
saying, oh, Marvel Studios is

545
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,440
still going to use Jonathan
Majors as king for I think they

546
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,800
said doomsday or something like,
but how?

547
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:34,400
Oh, oh, OK, you know, because
because the legal situation that

548
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,840
he found himself in the
ex-girlfriend dropped the

549
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,800
charges.
So now I guess oh, everything's

550
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,560
hunky Dory now.
So I I I don't know, I just I

551
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,800
would like to see more moon
night.

552
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:53,240
I would like to see more Shang
Shi and who knows, we may see a

553
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,440
couple of these other characters
show up in Captain Captain

554
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,280
America.
Brave New World may not like

555
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,920
Santa Maria.
I mean a Monica Rambo pop up

556
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,120
just hey, do something and
leave.

557
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,000
But I'm I'm not.
I'm not expecting it, but it

558
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,840
would be fun.
Or in a Thunderbolt somewhere,

559
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,240
somewhere, somehow.
I mean because Red Guard be

560
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,360
there.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause he's.

561
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,680
And and Bucky, yeah.
Yeah, so.

562
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,480
OK, Yeah.
I just don't want don't want to

563
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,000
get bladed again where they keep
putting it off and putting it

564
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,160
off and putting it off and put
it off again and we're going to

565
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,280
up no putting it off again and.
You know what?

566
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,880
OK, since you mentioned Blade, I
saw something else somewhere

567
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,200
about they're still supposed to
be doing something with Green

568
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,480
Knight, and I'm like, yeah, just
stop.

569
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,120
Black Knight.
Black Knight?

570
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,000
Yes.
What did I say?

571
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,480
Green.
Knight they need to that that

572
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,600
that that that that is the that
is the biggest that that pissed

573
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,440
me off worse than not having
having blade.

574
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,040
It's like you're going to tease
the black Knight.

575
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,320
The black Knight is a badass and
he he could care.

576
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,200
The black Knight could be a
whole series of movies like he's

577
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,040
done that much and the mantle
changes.

578
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,120
It's just like ghost Rider this
like, you know it, the mantle

579
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,920
changes.
So it's like they could do a

580
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,480
whole lot with that.
I mean, he could be they could

581
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,159
do midnight Suns.
They do midnight Suns.

582
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:19,679
They could do a whole lot of
they could do medieval fucking

583
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,840
Avengers.
They could do the 16 O2 that

584
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,880
they did last last season with
him.

585
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,920
They could they could they could
do it in medieval times and just

586
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,639
show his progression.
But it's like, you know, it's

587
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:31,920
MCU.
They don't know what the hell

588
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,480
they'll know.
Sometimes they don't know what

589
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,199
they're doing a lot.
So nowadays it's just like it's

590
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:38,280
frustrating.
I'm just.

591
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,480
Like just give me something.
It's to the point where they're

592
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,960
they're trying to do too much.
And I mean, at the beginning, I

593
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,520
think we've had this discussion
before, it was like, yes, give

594
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,719
us, give us, give us.
But now it's like they're over

595
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,480
saturating it.
And especially with the whole

596
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,960
timeline thing and multiverses
and everything, I think it's

597
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,080
just they kind of, they do need
to kind of pare down a little

598
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,040
bit.
And I think Anthony was the one

599
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,520
who mentioned it.
They need to focus what they're

600
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,360
going to, you know, what
storyline and that they're going

601
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,520
to tell us and then go from
there.

602
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,120
But yeah, I still, I do want to
see Moon night.

603
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,240
I do want to see Shawn Chi so
however y'all can figure out to

604
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:22,680
get those in.
There, that'd be nice.

605
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,880
Let's do that.
Let's do that.

606
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:30,960
So yeah, 'cause I mean you, you
had really great properties with

607
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,680
those.
Shawn Chi was a success in the

608
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,080
box office.
Moon Night was one of the was

609
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,120
one of the better series that
they've had on Disney Plus,

610
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:48,180
which, you know, I will be
honest, I'm kind of the quote UN

611
00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:50,120
quote Marvel apologist just like
you.

612
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,200
But I don't think they've really
had many bad things.

613
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:59,400
I mean, we know the the couple
that we have all said that we

614
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,840
didn't really care for.
I'm not even going to bring

615
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,760
those up again, but Moonlight
was one of the better series.

616
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,520
Like I think Moonlight is still
in my top five for me so.

617
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,480
Very close to me too, yeah.
If you have those properties and

618
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,680
those characters and they did
very well, why would you not

619
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:23,040
want to continue that instead of
giving us, you know, and I I'm

620
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,480
just going to say Eternals
because a lot of people didn't

621
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,960
like that that film and those
characters.

622
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,600
I loved it, but you.
I liked it.

623
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,320
Yeah, you gave it to us and then
now you're not going to you're

624
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,800
not going to follow through with
it.

625
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,120
So again, give us the characters
that that did do well.

626
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,400
And the things you set up in the
eternal students, like if you

627
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,040
first of all, I mean, just like
they tried to do do what they do

628
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,240
with Guardians of the Galaxy
Take take a comic that a lot of

629
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:53,440
people don't know about and put
it on the big screen and hope

630
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,680
for the best.
But it didn't do as well as they

631
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,280
thought.
They tried to introduce Black

632
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,160
Knight and Blade at the end and
and try to get a soup for it.

633
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:03,880
And now we're not going to see
any of the three, none of the

634
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,600
above.
And and they and they wasted get

635
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,000
putting Harry Styles as Thanos
brother as a as a post credit

636
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,200
senior, just like there's a
whole lot of stuff they teased

637
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,280
in that that we're not going to
see now.

638
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,200
And it's like like I just like I
agree.

639
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,280
I'm whole 100% with Anthony.
They just need to streamline and

640
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,160
focus on one thing because it's
like just give us something

641
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:30,000
consistent.
Just give us something that

642
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,600
makes sense, that is good.
I don't care if you only give me

643
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,480
ATV show and a movie or two a
year.

644
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,600
I don't care if it's good.
Good, right?

645
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,640
Make it good.
Don't just.

646
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,160
And make it make sense.
Together.

647
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,400
Right, and make it make sense.
Right and don't don't try to

648
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,200
throw shit together.
I mean, I understand like

649
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,360
previously previous stuff might
have been affected by by the

650
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:59,920
panda bear, but it's like even
if that happens, it's like slow

651
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,040
down as soon as you get
something again.

652
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,320
Soon as soon as you get past
that, go with it.

653
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,280
Don't just try to keep throwing
stuff and keep a timeline when

654
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,920
the timelines been interrupted
by a force of nature, just like

655
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,560
slow down and just pick it up
where you left off.

656
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,920
Don't just keep throwing stuff
in and fucking up the timeline

657
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,720
And people like people
wondering, who the hell is this?

658
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:22,480
Why?
Why are you showing me this now?

659
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,040
And it's all out of sequence
because that's how you lose

660
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,480
people and people start being
like, I really don't Care.

661
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:33,360
Now you.
Know yeah so but first episode

662
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,920
and what they are doing is they
are releasing an episode per day

663
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,920
for the next Oh yeah it is 8
episodes because it's 88 days

664
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,800
so.
Right, right.

665
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,000
Right.
OK.

666
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:53,120
So we will be recording those
episodes, maybe not very quickly

667
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,880
because this is a few days
before Christmas, which is one

668
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,000
of the reasons why Anthony and
Michelle are not on this

669
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particular show because they had
stuff to do tonight.

670
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So ours, our recording schedule
and our release schedule for the

671
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next few weeks will probably be
a little sporadic because of the

672
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holidays.
So, you know, we will try to get

673
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caught up with that.
We do have some other things

674
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that we are going to be talking
about in January and the start

675
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of 2025, but I think this third
season of What If got off to a

676
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very strong start.
It was a very fun episode.

677
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It was like I said, I was so
excited because of the

678
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characters and I'm looking
forward to the rest of the

679
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season.
Yeah, I am too.

680
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,600
Definitely.
I can't wait.

681
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,800
Yeah, So you have any last
minute thoughts about this

682
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episode?
Yep.

683
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What you got?
OK, yeah, shout out to the two

684
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on your left scenes is just
almost like they did like they

685
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did like in in in game where
where Sam said on your left when

686
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he passed running and then when.
Banner was coming in on the

687
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plane, he said on your left when
he was coming in too, so he kind

688
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of paralleled that.
I thought that was pretty cool.

689
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Also shout to Moon Night saying
when they were putting the mech

690
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,520
together, there's like teamwork.
Who knew?

691
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,720
The one person who actually
knows all about teamwork and

692
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,480
getting 2 separate entities to
do one thing and try to do like

693
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,960
OK cool.
Like I caught that.

694
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,680
I see what you did there, Sir.
Shout out to the and shout out

695
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,680
to the style that they did it in
where they had a lot of tile

696
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shots during the action and it
made it seem like it was just

697
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like comic book panels, like
where they had like where he was

698
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like we got to keep hitting him.
We're not doing it.

699
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,480
And they kept showing like the
shards, the different different

700
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ways ways they were showing.
It is just like I thought that's

701
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how exactly how it would have
looked in the comic book and

702
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,000
that was awesome.
And oh, shout, shout to Casey

703
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,040
for getting me gave me this new
my new pencils and my notebook

704
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,080
'cause I I had a had a blast
using them to take notes today.

705
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,840
So Casey, you're awesome.
Cool.

706
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,960
This was outstanding.
I love the Avenger assemble when

707
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,280
he that that holds that whole
sequence.

708
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,760
Like, even though I've seen it
in their previews when you said

709
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,960
Avenger assemble and and
everybody was like looking at

710
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,120
him, like, yeah, let's go.
That whole thing was awesome.

711
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,440
And see, that threw me off
because I was like, why are you

712
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,760
saying Avenger singular as
opposed to Avengers?

713
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,240
But then when I saw the episode,
I was like, oh, this makes sense

714
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,520
because you're.
Yeah, the Mexican.

715
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,520
Yeah, that was beautiful.
This was Gundam meets Godzilla

716
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,920
meets Seventies 80s anime and
this everything I watched when I

717
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,040
was in elementary, middle and
high school.

718
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,560
I loved it.
It was perfect and I then I

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00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,240
can't wait to see what comes
next.

720
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,920
I have a list.
I need to go look at the list

721
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:58,160
and see what's next.
But I I have no notes and I I

722
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,880
just really really enjoyed this
thoroughly.

723
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:07,920
OK, so I guess that is it for
this particular episode.

724
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,760
Like I said, they are releasing
several more episodes.

725
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,640
Seven days.
We will be covering those.

726
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,600
But for now, that is it for our
show.

727
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,680
You can find us online at
www.phantomhybrid.com.

728
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,600
We are on social media on all
the social media at Phantom

729
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,560
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You can chat with us on our

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00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,520
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00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,680
podcast streaming platforms.
Thanks for listening.

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We hope you join the
conversation next time and Merry

734
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,040
Christmas.