Marvel's What If...? S2E1 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #268

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What's up, Hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of the Phantom Hybrid Podcast.
This is Hanukkah and I am here

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with Anthony and Mike for the
first time in 2024.

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And we are discussing Season 2
episode one of Marvel's What If?

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What if Nebula had joined the
Nova Corps?

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Also known as Marvel presents
Blade Runner.

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You know, that's The funny thing
because literally everybody that

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I've heard talk about this
episode, that's what they say.

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And I haven't, like, I haven't
seen the new Blade Runner and I

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haven't watched the old one
since like the 80s.

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So I don't remember much of it.
So I'm just like.

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Well, they they they literally
said that every episode of what

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If is like an homage to some 80s
movie it.

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Is, you know.
And and this.

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Literally, this movie, even down
to Nebula's car is is basically

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them retelling Blade Runner.
Like, literally.

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Her car is almost an exact
replica of Decker's car in Blade

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Runner.
Even down to the butterfly door,

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it's the same damn car.
And there.

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And there's shots that are
straight out of the movie.

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Literally, like like, yeah.
And and like the duster that she

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puts on when she puts on Yondu's
thing is the is Deckard's duster

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is this.
OK, I I will say that was one of

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the cooler parts of the episode
to me because I was like, you

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know, I never really kind of
made that connection.

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But once she put the stuff on, I
was like, you know what?

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I could, I could, I would be
down for that in live action.

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I really would.
Yeah, it's like and she's blue.

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It's like, how do we not put
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It's like a blue person puts on
the red, puts on the red Mohawk

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and I'm like, oh damn, that
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Why?
Oh right, he was blue.

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Oh, never mind, OK.
But you know, no, when she when

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she did that, it's like, I feel
that's so bad for Kraglin

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because she instantly had
control of that arrow and it was

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like whipping it around killing
people without having to

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practice and throw it at people
and and like maybe go like 5

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miles an hour.
She is Cyborg, so it would

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probably be easier for her for.
Her to mimic.

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Kids whistle.
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That's how she found it anyway,
yeah.

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Yeah, well, she didn't.
She didn't mimic his whistle.

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She had, she had the memories of
him and was able to pull it.

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But one of the things that I
that I like about the What If

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series, and this is from last
season to this season, I like

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that they they did basically
what the later Avengers movies

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did when when they mixed the
Guardians of the Galaxy.

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And with The Avengers it's like
you put these characters that

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you never would think to pair
together and you put them in a

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story and and tell this story
And even though it doesn't it's

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not similar to what we know from
the quote UN quote Canon the the

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real world stuff.
It makes sense, even as this is

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supposed to be alternative.
But I could actually see some of

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this stuff making sense.
Like the whole thing about

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everybody being so comfortable
with Nebula that they call her

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Nebby, that that was weird to me
because I was like, you just

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don't think of Nebula like the
Nebula we know as building those

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kind of relationships.
At least not until after

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everything that happened with
Thanos Would it fit.

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Yeah.
Speak, Speaking of

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relationships, let's just go
ahead and give this big

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relationship out of the way.
Mike I.

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Was just about to.
Say it is back.

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The man is back.
I was.

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I was like, OK, there's no no
chance they're not going to have

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him in this.
Then soon as soon as I saw the

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credits roll and the opening
credits roll and I saw Seth

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Green's name, I was like.
When he showed up, I paused it

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and I said Mike is going to be
inseparable.

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But you know.
What?

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And he owns the casino.
It fits perfectly.

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I have to say, I have to say as
much as I tease Mike about his

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obsession with Howard the Duck,
this episode sold it for me.

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I I have to say it's like and I
don't know if it was just that

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the original, even after we did
the rewatch a couple of years

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ago for Mike's birthday episode.
I don't know if it was just the

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the live action throwing me off
or if it was just that it was so

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dated.
But every time we've seen Howard

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in the the MCU at this point or
in the What If episodes like,

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OK, this makes a little more
sense.

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This episode, I was all in.
I was all in.

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From from his demeanor to the
way he talked to his, his

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business attitude to the to the
bandana and the the the.

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I was all in.
Before that, where he had the

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purple suit with the zebra
collar, I was like, this is

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fucking like all he needed was
like a cigar in his mouth.

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I was like, this would have
been, that would have been the

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perfect Howard.
And I was just like, this is

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fucking awesome.
Yeah, he he it was, it was

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really good placement for this
particular character based on

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the I'm beyond some of the
style.

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He actually fit in this and it
was perfect fit for him.

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What I was not expecting was for
Corey and group to be there with

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him and for that to make sense.
It made so much sense.

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Yeah, it's.
Actually.

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When they're sitting there
playing fucking paper scissor

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rock.
What'd you say, Mike?

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Yeah, that's why I said it was.
That was fucking hilarious.

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It's like but but there's a
strong there's a strong paper

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because it's made of rock.
And I will say this too.

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Cork is quickly becoming one of
my favorite, like all time

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characters in the MCU.
Because he's so, he's so smart,

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but he's stupidly smart.
Like, you don't like like Howard

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saying like, what kind of weirdo
would know this?

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And he starts spouting off
everything about this little map

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that Yondu has Fight.
You know this stuff.

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How do you know this stuff?
It's like you don't expect, OK,

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let's say you don't expect a
pile of rocks to have the kind

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of knowledge that Cory does, but
he does and he does.

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It is such a simple and like.
Isn't isn't very.

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Sane.
You're Dumber than a pile of

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rocks.
Yeah.

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So, like, it turns on his head.
Yes, it.

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Really does and it makes so much
sense.

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Like all of this, just it makes
so much sense and.

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I don't get, I didn't get.
I have to watch again because I

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didn't get why how group and
Corey ended up here.

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I don't think they ever told us
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They just worked.
They they just worked at the

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casino.
That scene where where Cork

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started spouting off about the
schematics reminded me of the

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scene in Guardians Three when
when Drax started speaking the

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language of the little kids.
And they were like, how did, how

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did, why did you tell us that
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Like he was like, you didn't
ask, right.

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And it's like, yeah, it kind of
reminded me of that scene.

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But yeah, it's like, I agree
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first, when I when he was first
introducing Ragnarok, I just

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thought he was kind of a
throwaway character.

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I was like, oh, OK, whatever.
He's going to be like, you know,

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minor Comic Relief.
I'm not going to see anything.

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But it's like everything I've
seen him in, he's actually kind

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of stolen the scenes that he's
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So it's actually he's he, I
mean, he's he's going on me too.

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Right.
Yeah.

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And you said about, you
mentioned about how they were

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able to get all these voices
back, you know, except for.

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Glenn Close wouldn't.
It Glenn Close, right?

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Except for her.
Think about it.

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It's sort of the easy paycheck.
You can do it from your home if

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you don't need to go down to the
studio and it's literally just a

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few lines.
I mean, you can literally do it

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in the afternoon.
So it's it's it's probably not

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that hard to get them to do it,
to be able to fill in their

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schedule.
I think maybe she only couldn't

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do it because she couldn't fill
in her schedule.

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Yeah, but that's the thing.
Like we, well, we were having

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this conversation before we
started recording about how it

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it if you look at the the voice
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for this season, they're just
some people.

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Especially with the way that,
you know people been going

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through quote UN quote, Marvel
blow, burnout.

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You know some people are now,
you know you have people who

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were in the films and they're
like, oh, I really didn't want

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to be in there.
And you know just all the

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different negative stuff.
So the fact that they got so

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many of the original actors to
come back and voice their

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animated counterparts, that was
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Like, especially in certain
later episodes, I was like,

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wait, they got, they got, they
got who back What?

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You know, it was it was just
very interesting to me.

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And then to put Yarrog in this
episode because again, like I

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told Y'all when we discussed
Miss the Marvels, I couldn't

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remember much of Captain Marvel
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And then it's like when I saw
Jude Law's name in the opening

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credits, I said, wait, are they
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How?
Like, how does this even work?

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And then again with the way that
they tell these what if stories,

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the situations are so different
from what we're expecting from

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what we've seen, but yet they
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I could even the pairing up of
Nebula and Yon Rog and the back

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and forth, the back and forth
banter in this episode between

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the characters was like spot on
a plus because I was like, yeah.

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Even.
Even.

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The.
The Peter Serfinowitz who played

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the the douchebag, douchebag,
Nova Corps guy who said who

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called called Yondu trash.
Like, that's the same guy that

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was.
In his mouth, I was like, Oh my

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God, this, but, but I mean, it
just, it works.

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I mean the whole premise behind
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So we start off the episode
Yondu is dead, someone has

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killed him, and Nebula again has
joined the Nova Corps.

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You know, the way that they're
telling this episode is that in

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this particular universe, when
Thanos was trying to Thanos

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everything, Ronan betrayed him,
killed Thanos, killed Gomorrah.

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And so Nebula was kind of left
out the space to, I don't know,

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you can't say die with the
Cyborg, but she's not.

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Well, I guess it's she's more
she's Cyborg, like more

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mechanical than than humans.
So they just kind of left her

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out there.
And Nova Prime found her,

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rescued her, gave her a second
chance at life.

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And as a result, Nebula joins
the Nova Corps.

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She swears their oath and she
becomes one of them.

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So she's the one that is first
on the scene of Yondu's murder.

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And of course the asshole guy
from Nova Court, as that Mike

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just mentioned, he comes in,
he's talking like mad trash to

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to Nebula, calling her names and
just it's like, don't be like

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she could probably squeeze the
life out of you with her index

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and her index finger and her
thumb.

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Like, really?
But again, this is not the same

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Nebula.
OK, so Nebula, she leaves.

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They cleaned up the crime scene.
And as she says, you know,

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they're so busy focusing on
trying to find the murderer's

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weapon that they didn't look for
the most important part, the

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victim's weapon.
So that's how she gets Yondu's

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arrow.
That's how she finds these

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schematics that he has that he
apparently died to protect.

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Because the arrow wasn't hiding.
It wasn't with Yondu's body.

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So the whole course of this
episode is Nebula trying to

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figure out what these schematics
are and what secret Yondu died

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to protect.
And when Nova Prime contacts

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Nebula and she's like, OK, so
This is why I I I hired you.

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This is why I took a chance on
you.

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Because I knew you you would see
things that we can't see.

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I need you to solve this, and I
need you to do it by whatever

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means necessary.
So Nebula sets out on her, her

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task.
She goes to Howard and that's

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when Cord says, oh, you know,
this, this little map has all

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kinds of things in it, like has
random things in it.

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And then it has the, the
schematics for the shield that

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Nova Core placed around the
planet.

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Oh, they're on what?
What's the name of the planet?

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Zandar.
Zandar.

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Which, which in our timeline was
destroyed by Thanos when he got

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the.
But because things changed,

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Ronan is now trying to get to
the planet, and she placed the

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shield around the planet.
So apparently with these

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schematics, it appears that
someone's trying to turn, you

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know, they're they're trying to
take the shield down.

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So she's like, OK, I need to
find someone who can hack into

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Zandar's security so that we can
figure out the schematics and,

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you know, blah blah blah blah
blah.

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And this is where Yon Rod comes
into the picture.

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Side note, it's been five years
since they closed the planet

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off.
So that means you can't.

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Like this is this is a planet
where interplanetary travel is

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the norm.
You know y'all can't go nowhere.

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Y'all can't leave.
And everyone who is visiting is

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trapped.
You on you on punishment for for

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no other reason than you got
some maniac on the outside

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trying to get to your planet
like.

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And it can't be over there for
50 years.

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It's.
Basically cold.

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It was a lot.
Of.

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Years.
Yeah.

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Oh, please don't.
We're not going to, we're not

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going to say that out loud.
We're not going to say that out

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loud.
Because I I couldn't.

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No, but.
Yeah.

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I mean, at least I get to walk
around and and still exist.

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But still, it's like, if you're
used, like think about it.

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If you got family on another
planet, that mean you can't go.

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You can't go see your family.
You're you're done.

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And I'm sure she did that
without anybody else's, like,

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say, so she I'm sure that there
was no vote.

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She she did what she was trying
to do to protect the planet.

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Understood.
OK, so Nebula breaks Yawn Rog

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out of prison, a prison that she
ended up putting him in because

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he was a hacker, which is so
weird.

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But she takes him to the
mainframe so that she can try

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to, you know, figure out who is
behind all this.

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And of course, Yon Rog betrays
her, takes the schematic, leaves

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her to die.
And then this is where we get

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all the the interesting stuff
with Howard and Cord and Group

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because when Nebula comes to,
she goes back to Howard's Casino

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to ask for weapons and another
arm because her arm is gone and

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all this other stuff.
And then this is where we see

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like them basically become Rambo
and company and it was just I

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was like it.
Was it was the Guardians of the

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Galaxy.
Basically, it was the Galaxy.

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It's like, it's like a budget
version of the Guardians of the

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Galaxy.
It's like, you know.

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It was so funny because when she
crashed, she crashed into one of

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the casino games.
I was like, wait a minute, this

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is wrong.
Those games are not supposed.

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To be this.
Like I said.

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Perfect fucking casting.
It it really, really, I went

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when I saw this episode.
And I mean, yes, I'm looking at

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him right now with the purple
suit, with the zebra column

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holding his alcohol in the
looking at, I was just like, OK,

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I can see why Mike is obsessed.
Because if if if this was the

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version of Howard I've been
getting all this time, I

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probably would have been equally
obsessed because he was cool as

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hell in this one.
But I I don't know.

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I I just, I don't.
Maybe now with the technology

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and with everything that we have
now, I could deal with the

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Howard the Duck live action.
But right now, no, just leave

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him, leave him in the what if
universe, He is perfect.

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And also if you think about it,
if they put him in the regular

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movies, he probably won't be
this cool because these are

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alternate versions of these
characters.

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They don't act away the
characters that we know at for

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the most part.
So how it might not be that

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cool.
So maybe you know, just.

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No, no, absolutely not.
No, we no, you're not going to

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do that to my boy.
I refuse to allow it to happen.

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No, he will be just as cool
because in in the snippets that

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we've seen him in Guardians Two
and Guardians Three, he was he

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he looked, he was really fucking
cool.

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Especially like the part where
he was sitting in Guardians 3

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where he was playing cards with
Craig Lynn and all them is like

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that was like a miniature
version of this sort of how.

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That's right.
He was OK.

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Yeah, you're right.
You're right.

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I forgot about that part.
I forgot.

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About that part.
Oh, yes, he yes he can.

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Yes, he can.
OK, I'll give you that.

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I'll don't give you that.
Don't.

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That's what Howard.
I'll give you that.

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Thank you.
I'll give you that.

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So, but anyway, so like I said,
Y'all rock.

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He betrays her and then she
finds out.

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Not only is it Yarra who betrays
her, which of course, I mean,

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this is a guy you just broke out
of prison.

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You really expected him not to
betray you.

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But the kicker is Nova Prime is
the one who is trying to give

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Ronan or or not.
She's not trying to give Ronan

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anything.
She's the one that's trying to

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bring down the shield so that
Ronan can invade the planet

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because she feels like what is
is too much for them to have to

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hide.
And it's not going well.

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And you know the the planet is
in chaos now, so might as well

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let him take over, especially
since he's going to allow me to

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stay in charge.
Why?

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Why?
She would believe him.

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Why?
Why, she would even believe him,

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right?
That's what I was.

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About his whole point is to
commit genocide, I think.

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I.
Think I.

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Think she?
You would think she would be

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smart enough to know that him
telling her that, Oh yeah, you

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can be in charge is just to get
her to comply and do what he

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wants to do.
No, because because see my

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theory, my theory is that she
had a boyfriend that was in

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another Galaxy that she got cut
off from and she couldn't find

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anyone else in that Dome that
that could actually that

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actually satisfied her.
So she.

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Was like we we have to be we we
had to say significant other

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because it could be a good.
I'm sorry.

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So you're you're exactly right.
Significant other could have

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been a could have been a woman
or a man or another creature,

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because this is the entire
universe.

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But whatever she she missing her
significant other and they're

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they're probably on Earth.
And they were like, why haven't

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I heard from her?
She must not like me.

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And she's just like, I miss you.
I miss my person, my other.

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And she's like, fuck this shit.
Hey, yo, can I get out of here?

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So she's going to let the whole
planet just be razed to the

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ground because she needs to get
Dick down.

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I I just don't know if I buy it.
Hey.

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The heart.
I think it just what?

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The heart wants.
I think, I think, I think, I

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think she's in the same position
as everyone else on the planet.

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They're all have.
They all have cabin fever, so

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she's making bad decisions
because they're all stuck like,

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but this is a horrible space
faring race and there's been

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stuck for five years.
Right.

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Yeah, but this is a horrible
this isn't just a bad decision,

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this is a horrible decision.
Like letting him in some who

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wanted to conquer the planet.
Because, I mean, just so you

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can, she's already she's she's
like, well, I can still be in

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charge.
You're in charge now.

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And you're making stupid
decisions.

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I'm like, this is.
I was like, why are you doing

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this?
Like you just can't take it

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that, like, are you were you
trying to get a Whataburger down

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here?
I mean, damn, what the fuck's

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wrong with you?
Just let shit go.

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Like, let's talk about the fact
that once she revealed once, she

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basically showed her face to
Nebula as the traitor and she's

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talking to yon Rod and she was
like, OK, kill her and then when

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you're done with her, what?
What did it say?

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Melt her.
Down, melt her down and you walk

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off.
Like, I don't know if they have

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TV on the on on on on Zandar,
but like you don't ever tell the

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person who's down and out like
you.

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You say what their fate is going
to be to them and expect them

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not to do anything.
Especially Nebula.

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Like before she became a Nova
Corps member.

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She's.
The daughter of the painters.

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OK, hold on.
So you don't think?

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At some point when she's when
her life is being threatened,

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that she's not going to reach
into those recesses and be like,

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oh you know, I.
Forgot.

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Bitch show y'all OK.
So hold on.

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And you expect somebody else to
make sure that happens and then

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he?
So, so look, this is her

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reasoning, she said.
The world's falling apart.

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People wear each other's
throats.

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We can't go on like this.
And sometimes there's just no

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shame and surrender.
But y'all gonna die.

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She quit.
She was like fuck this shit.

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I'm tired.
It's like I'm, I'm, I'm tired

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and tired of walking around the
streets and seeing people

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fighting all the time.
You're you're you're Nova Prime.

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You're in charge of the fucking
police corps basically like

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handle shit.
Don't just quit and be like

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fucking.
I'm just gonna.

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I mean this is just like this is
just like I don't.

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I don't, OK.
It's it's just it's ridiculous

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to me because it's like all
you're doing is quitting.

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And then you expect people to to
let you do the same job after

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the invasion?
Well, I mean, they're not going

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to have a choice.
It's like he's he's probably

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just going to he's going to let
her run Nova Corps but he's but,

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but, but Ronan is still going to
be over the planet.

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It's like Ronan.
Is.

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Not going to stay on that.
Planet Ronan is going to do what

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he has to do, and then he's
going to take his ass somewhere

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else to find another planet.
To He's going to raise that

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plant to the ground and kill
every Zenderian he can get his

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hand on and go about his
business, because that's the

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only reason why he's there.
He's not there to conquer the

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planet.
He's not.

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He's not trying to conquer it.
He's not trying to create the

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Empire.
He wants to murder them all

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because this planet destroys his
family.

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Like he doesn't like them.
Yeah.

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Put.
Yeah, he put it in charge of a

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power of rubble.
So he'll be in charge of that.

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Exactly.
And.

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This is assuming he lets her
live, and we already know he's

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not going to do that, no.
No, she she was going to be

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dead.
Susie came through.

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He was like, oh, thanks and
black.

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He's the ultimate representation
of Zendayan authority.

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She'd be the first one to go.
By by Nova Prime.

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But anyway, like I said, so you
expect you want to be in charge

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of everything, but you can't
even make sure that your number

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one nemesis at this point is
dead.

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Like, what is it we always say,
Michelle and Casey and I when

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we're talking about The Walking
Dead.

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If you don't see a body, they're
not dead.

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They're not dead.
You walked away with her still

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alive, and left it to your
little peons to take care of.

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And when she falls over the dam,
what do they say?

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Oh, nobody could survive that.
Which would say you, Boston.

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Nebula in.
All in it.

439
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,480
Yeah, like, no.
Call her being This is a Cyborg.

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She's gonna die like regular
people.

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I was like, you know what?
She ain't going to drown.

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It's like, what do you what do
you think she's going to do,

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drown?
No, she ain't going to drown.

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She'll be just going to crawl
the fuck back out of there.

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No.
If you know her story though we

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know the only reason why she
used a Cyborg because she kept

447
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,200
losing the Gamora.
Like how many times do you think

448
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,000
she was near death?
Right.

449
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,400
Fixing up with Gamora so.
I just, I was like, OK, whatever

450
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,800
happens to y'all, y'all deserve
it.

451
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,800
Because you didn't double tap,
you didn't make sure she to make

452
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,480
sure and then she comes back.
They have their little fights

453
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:39,840
and stuff and and it's like at
the end they she and Nova Prime

454
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,360
are fighting each other and they
fall out of a window, they fall

455
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:46,360
down.
Nova Prime is hanging on by a

456
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:52,040
ledge and and I mean not Gamor
Neverland trying to help her up

457
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,720
and she was like why would you
want to help me?

458
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,520
Why couldn't you just be on my
side?

459
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,320
And then you're gonna try to
shoot her and you fall to your

460
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,640
death like, did you not read the
road?

461
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,480
It's so weird.
It's like they actually combined

462
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,560
Blade Runner with like the end
of Die Hard and I was like.

463
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,480
Yes, that's what I thought about
at the end, 'cause I was like,

464
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,720
oh, she's Hans Gruber falling
off the Plaza.

465
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:16,680
Which?
Which slight sport?

466
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,400
Ladies and gentlemen will come
up later on, but go on.

467
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,640
The the most common death for
Disney villains.

468
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,160
Yeah.
That.

469
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,000
Is true.
That is true.

470
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,520
That is true.
And The funny thing is, so you

471
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,640
said that and you know the first
Disney villain that came to

472
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,600
mind, it wasn't any of the the,
the Queens or whatever.

473
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,800
It was Scar.
Well, Scar didn't fall.

474
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,200
He got.
He got his ass eaten up.

475
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,160
But.
Well, no.

476
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,480
He fell first, fell first, he
fell 1st, and then he got eaten

477
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,280
up.
So he didn't.

478
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,160
He didn't fall as far as Nova
Prime, but I'm I'm quite sure

479
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,440
Nova Nova Prime is dead because
she's not a Cyborg, she's just a

480
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,640
regular.
Well.

481
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,600
I I always think of Gaston
because he failed to his death

482
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,320
and so did the winning Tarzan.
What was his name?

483
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:12,240
Oh yeah.
Yeah, he failed to.

484
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,840
Yeah.
Oh, me too.

485
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,400
You're right.
A lot of them fall.

486
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,720
A lot of the Disney villains,
they do fall, but it's just

487
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,320
weird how small was the first
one I thought about.

488
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:24,120
I've never watched all of Beauty
and the Beast.

489
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,480
You know where we're going to
end, No?

490
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,840
That was like, wait guest on
Phil.

491
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,880
I was like, oh shit, I don't
think I ever finished.

492
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Watching Oh my God, Mike, you
the fact that you just said that

493
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,840
out loud?
Look, you, you realize, you

494
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,040
know, I have no shame.
So it's like, I feel free to

495
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,560
admit my shortcomings, so I'll
fix that layup.

496
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,480
I might actually go watch, go
watch it when we finish doing

497
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,680
this.
But shit, OK.

498
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,520
But yeah, I mean it.
It is, it is kind of a kind of a

499
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,280
trope.
You know the slow motion fall

500
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,880
after the shooting like.
Oh, Speaking of slow motion,

501
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,000
that part where they were
walking out slow motion and Korg

502
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,160
was like, thank you guys for
indulging me.

503
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,920
Fucking love Cord.
I love him because he would do

504
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,200
the stupidest stuff and it was
it's just it just makes sense.

505
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,680
It just feels right.
I love.

506
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,880
It feels very.
Right.

507
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:29,600
I loved it after, After Nebula,
Nebula arrowed everybody and

508
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,920
Howard called her a show off.
She was like, it's called style.

509
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,960
Look it up.
Like I said, the banter in this

510
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,040
whole episode between everyone.
I love it.

511
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:39,840
I.
Love it.

512
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,000
Oh, you left out the best part.
The best part is Nibbly didn't

513
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,720
trust that motherfucker from the
jump.

514
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,760
Right, right.
Because what was it?

515
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,400
She said.
She said as soon as you told me

516
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,560
by any means necessary, I knew
that you had broken our oath.

517
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,880
Because that was because OK,
before she revealed that when

518
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,200
all of this was going on when
they're like she and Yon Rog and

519
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,400
they're they're climbing down
into the into the mainframe.

520
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,960
And then I was sitting here
looking at her like why are you

521
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,720
why are you moving in front of
him?

522
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,200
Like why are you walking in
front of him why are you doing

523
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,360
all of this stuff expecting and
and I know it was probably

524
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,600
because she had just broken him
out of prison.

525
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,720
It's not like he had weapons or
anything but this is yon Rog

526
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,040
we're talking about.
So it's I was sitting there

527
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,080
looking at her like I hope
they're not making Nebula stupid

528
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,600
in this episode and then of
course we get the reveal later

529
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,720
that she wasn't she was just she
was doing her own thing.

530
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:46,160
I was like, oh OK because that
happens later on in one of the

531
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,600
up other episodes where a
character acts a specific way

532
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,600
and then in the next episode we
see them.

533
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,840
I thought that they were going
to make them a villain and I was

534
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,000
like that though oh OK this is
what you're doing.

535
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,200
So I they put me for the okie
doke.

536
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,680
I fell for it.
I think, I think that I think

537
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,040
that she was counting on on her
if if he was going to try to do

538
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,240
something like hit her from
behind, that she was counting on

539
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,120
her reflexes to catch him or do
anything like that.

540
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,400
Like she wasn't worried, worried
about him doing like catching

541
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,000
her off guard because she was
like he's he's not as fast as I

542
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,120
am because it which was proven
when she when the arrow came

543
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,280
towards her and she just reached
up and caught it right before

544
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,840
it, right before it hit her in
the forehead.

545
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,920
Well, she she knew.
She knew that they needed her

546
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,160
alive all the way up until the
core so she could walk in front

547
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,080
of him because he wasn't going
to do anything to her until she

548
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,360
got the information.
Yeah, but like I said.

549
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,400
When I first watched it, that
was before I knew that she knew,

550
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,920
yeah, what the deal was.
So I'm just like.

551
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,760
Yeah, I could.
Because I'm like you.

552
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280
I was like, why is she trusting
this dude this much?

553
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,600
Like she really, she really
like.

554
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,440
Well, she said she wasn't
trusting him, but her actions

555
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,480
were showing that she was.
Yeah, she was maybe not

556
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,920
completely trusting, but she
wasn't very suspicious or she

557
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,560
didn't act.
She was acting.

558
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,440
She played her part, definitely.
She knew it, obviously.

559
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,240
She knew what she was doing
because even if she had died and

560
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,040
when they use the thing, it
still would have destroyed the

561
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,200
ship whether she was there or
not.

562
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,520
The only benefits she got from
surviving was getting revenge.

563
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,360
Right, so I'm.
Reach out to Ronan having a slow

564
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,000
ass ship to get closed into a
force field, closing at like 5

565
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,360
miles an hour.
So did Ronan survive that?

566
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,520
Like, did he jump?
No.

567
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,440
He didn't see nobody.
OK.

568
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,920
I'll no, nobody.
But it's like we saw him, he was

569
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,880
like, he was like, he was just
looking straight.

570
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,640
He was like and then and then it
exploded around him.

571
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,760
So he might not be, he might not
be dead, but he's going to be.

572
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,920
He's going to take him a minute
before he comes back, OK?

573
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,760
Yeah, so he might.
He has, at least.

574
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,480
He's a little bit of fire
damage, so a.

575
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,600
Little bit of fire damage.
It's just a flesh.

576
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:01,960
Just.
A flesh.

577
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,480
It's just a flesh burn.
It's just a flesh burn.

578
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,040
Right.
I think this was a very strong

579
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,680
start to the second season
because, I mean, even with the

580
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,600
last season, I don't think we
had any complaints about any of

581
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,840
the episodes.
Like they're very well done.

582
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:26,080
Like I said, even though you
have these characters who in the

583
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,080
regular quote UN quote the
regular MCU probably would never

584
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,600
mesh together, they work very
well in this.

585
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,680
So if this is what y'all are
doing for the first episode, the

586
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,600
the next eight episodes should
be really good.

587
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,880
Yeah, right.
The the cool thing for me is, is

588
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,880
all, even from the first season,
is their ability to locate a

589
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,040
specific point in order to tell
their story.

590
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,480
Like it it says what if she
joined Novacorp, but it's

591
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,680
actually what if Ronan turned on
Thanos?

592
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,000
Yeah, that's where everything
changed.

593
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,720
Yeah, I think it's cool that
they're able to do that and and

594
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,480
and make it convincing.
Yeah, 'cause, like I said, I I

595
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,120
watched these episodes and I'm
like, oh, that totally makes

596
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,680
sense.
Oh, I I like it.

597
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,480
It makes sense.
It's not something that they're

598
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,400
just, they're not jumping the
shark.

599
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,840
They're not pulling stuff out of
here and saying, OK, we're going

600
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,080
to throw it in here.
This is 1 little decision.

601
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,400
Yeah, one little change.
Right.

602
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,440
One little butterfly effect.
This is why, why I love the

603
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,760
comics like the actual comics.
Like those are my, like favorite

604
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,800
comics.
Because it's like, you know how

605
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,880
one story goes, but then it
actually retells the story.

606
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,640
And when, as you're reading it,
it's like you cannot put it

607
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,360
down.
It's like you literally are.

608
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,840
This is, it's the literal
definition of a page Turner.

609
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,080
Because it's like, it goes right
up to the point, to one point,

610
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,920
then it switches and you're
like, oh shit, what the fuck

611
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,640
happened?
Oh damn.

612
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,960
What the how the fuck is going?
Oh damn.

613
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,720
Oh wow.
Then it's like, I mean it's in,

614
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,160
I mean those that whole whole
what If series is fucking

615
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,160
incredible.
So I can't wait to see the rest

616
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,040
of them.
And then we're getting new

617
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,560
characters in this season, you
know?

618
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:14,639
I cannot wait to see Kahori
because I mean see, this is the

619
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:19,960
thing that I really appreciate
about the MCU that is kind of

620
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,040
present in the DC EU, but you
really, but it's not really at

621
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,639
the forefront of it, is that the
MCU does a really good job about

622
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:33,880
representation, About like
showing other races, other

623
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,239
genders and showing and giving
other cultures and giving them

624
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,679
shine not just as a token but
actually as something that is

625
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,320
that is feasible, that has meat
to it.

626
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,600
And that is really that that
really shows the that shows them

627
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,239
as something more than just a
caricature like Miss Marvel.

628
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,920
Miss Marvel showed showed
Muslims and the Pakistani people

629
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,720
as as having depth to them and
showing what what actually goes

630
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:07,440
on.
It's like with Wakana Forever

631
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,840
and Black Panthers.
It's like they showed Africa as

632
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,480
a diaspora and showed how, like,
you know that they showed like

633
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,480
there's more to people than what
you, than what you think you

634
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,600
know.
And it actually helped actually

635
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,120
helps people to look further
into other things, other things

636
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,640
about other cultures.
And I think that's one thing

637
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,960
that the MCU does very well.
It gets a lot of Flack for it.

638
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,880
But you know what?
Fuck the haters.

639
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,080
This is, this is what actually
this is one of the things that I

640
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,480
really like about the MCU.
Yeah, and I'm excited about that

641
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,720
episode too, because, you know,
I was having a conversation with

642
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,120
the person I live with, whom I'm
related to by marriage.

643
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,680
I've missed that.
I'm so glad you said that.

644
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,680
I heard that in so long.
OK, I'm sorry.

645
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,400
Go ahead.
And and I was saying, you know,

646
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,920
why did they create this new
Native American characters?

647
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,800
They're Native American
characters in, you know, in

648
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,080
Marvel already.
Danny Moon Star and I just

649
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,680
started naming.
She's like, yeah, but like, they

650
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,400
went and did research and, you
know, they went and talked to

651
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,920
experts and historians to create
this character.

652
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,800
I was like, Oh yeah.
I mean, shoot, I mean really EE

653
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,760
is Native American.
But it's like the whole thing is

654
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,400
it's like the way they're doing
it that they they said they're

655
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,600
doing.
It is like they're doing the

656
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,920
whole thing in in the Cherokee
is a Cherokee or Chocolate

657
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,640
Mohawk, Mohawk.
They're doing their whole thing

658
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,800
in the in Mohawk, in the Mohawk
language.

659
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Like they're not translating it
into English.

660
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:42,880
Is subtitled in Mohawk and that
is mind blowing.

661
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,800
I can't.
It's like I really want to see

662
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,080
how that turns out.
Like that is just really

663
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,960
interesting to me.
I'm excited.

664
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:54,360
And then even just even just the
the titles of the episodes for

665
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,000
this season, like when they
released the the titles earlier,

666
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,640
I was like wait, so how are they
going to do this?

667
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,920
So it's like you have What if
Nebula Joined the Nova Corps?

668
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,400
Episode 2 is What If Peter Quill
Attacked Earth's Mightiest

669
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,280
Heroes?
Episode 3 is What If Happy Hogan

670
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,800
Saved Christmas.
So.

671
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,480
So even with that, you're taking
characters that are basically

672
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,840
second secondary characters and
you're bringing them to the

673
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,840
forefront.
I love it.

674
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,760
Episode 4, What if Iron Man
crashed into the Grandmaster?

675
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,000
That should be fun, because they
actually did bring Jeff Goldblum

676
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,760
back to the voice the
Grandmaster.

677
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,440
And that and that that episode
is the one that actually was

678
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,960
supposed to come out last season
that explained how the Mora

679
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,800
defeated 10.
Oh yes, it.

680
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,680
Got it.
Got the the Stone Crusher.

681
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,560
Right.
So you have episode.

682
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,840
And that's also the mad That's
also the Mad Max episode, too.

683
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,160
Yeah.
Yes, you have Episode 5.

684
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,080
What if Captain Carver?
What if Captain Carter Fought

685
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,360
the Hydra Stomper?
Episode 6 is What If Kahori

686
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,040
Reshaped the World.
Episode 7 is What If Hella Found

687
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,480
the Ten Rings?
Which?

688
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,720
I'm excited for that one.
That's gonna be.

689
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:11,720
Interesting, yeah.
Episode 8 is what if The

690
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:16,320
Avengers Assembled in 16 O2.
OK I I will say this.

691
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,880
I have seen that episode and I
think Jon Favreau had probably

692
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:25,640
more fun than anybody in this
whole series because of the some

693
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,640
of the shit he got to say in
this episode.

694
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,840
And then the season finale is
what if Strange Supreme

695
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,680
intervened.
So all of these titles is like.

696
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,120
When I saw them I was like OK,
they are bringing the noise this

697
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,600
season you know.
So I'm I'm, I'm really excited

698
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,120
and I have seen the episodes.
I know that.

699
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:49,520
You know I know what to expect.
I'm not going to say much

700
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,600
because Anthony has not seen
them all yet.

701
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,640
So yeah it's it's a it's a
really it's a really great

702
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,480
season.
They they did they started

703
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,000
strong.
They finished strong.

704
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,560
So I will say that.
Yeah, yeah.

705
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,520
Yep.
Yeah this is this is a great.

706
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,040
I loved all the throwbacks.
I loved the one thing I really

707
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,600
liked was that was the tone of
this episode.

708
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:21,880
Like it was it was so heavy and
it was so it was it was it was

709
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,640
just it was like film noir.
It was it was kind of like I

710
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,200
kind of I can't expected.
I have expected Nebula to sound

711
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,000
like wasn't that's make it sound
like The Maltese Falcon, like

712
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,400
Philip Marlowe.
They're like, yeah it was dark.

713
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,000
Dark and stormy night.
The Dame walked in and told me

714
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,240
she was going to give me a
chance.

715
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,280
So I was like I kind of have
expected.

716
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,760
Her nebulous voice, and it just,
it was, it was throwing me off

717
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,800
because I'm so used to that
being like Killer Nebula.

718
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,240
And so to hear that voice on
Good guy Nebula was just, it was

719
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,800
very weird.
And then again, like I said, the

720
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,360
banter throughout, because you
have Howard and his gruff voice

721
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,120
and Nebula and her voice, and
they're going back and forth.

722
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,720
And again, I'm just like, it
makes sense.

723
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,200
This just to pay you back off
what bike said.

724
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,720
The tone and a lot of a lot of
people try to do you remember

725
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:14,200
the dark?
What was that dark city, The

726
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:20,200
whole Blade Runner motif and and
that the feel of it.

727
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,040
And there are a lot of shows and
movies that have tried to

728
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:29,960
replicate that and not do it as
well as these animators did in

729
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:35,000
this 30 minute right TV show.
And and I think it was, I

730
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,040
thought it was amazing, OK.
Yeah, all right.

731
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,120
Shout, oh oh shout, shout out to
Drax losing his mind about

732
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,280
losing, losing everything in a
slot machine.

733
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,640
Yeah, I caught that.
I was like.

734
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:48,760
Wait, is it Drax?
It was.

735
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,800
Like, again, because I would not
think about Drax being a

736
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,520
gambler.
You know, the drafts that we

737
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,520
know.
That just would never cross my

738
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,360
mind.
And see, I thought, I thought, I

739
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,280
thought they were going to do
more, have more cameos like that

740
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,640
because it kind of reminded me
of the Thor, The Thor episode of

741
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,240
what If last year where
everybody was in the was in

742
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,040
Vegas gambling and stuff like
that.

743
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,640
And it's like I thought, I
thought I was going to see maybe

744
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,120
a couple more, but I didn't see
them.

745
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,240
Also I don't know if it's me but
I noticed that the railing when

746
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,360
she went up to see Howard, it
kind of look like the railing in

747
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,440
the first to black first Black
Panther when they went into like

748
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:36,000
the casino there it's like I was
looking at I was like and I and

749
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,920
I was I was watching I was
watching a summation show and

750
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,360
they and they put them side by
side.

751
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,120
I was like that actually does
that actually does look like it.

752
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,240
So it's just you know it's it
just shows that Marvel, Marvel

753
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:50,080
is kind of derivative of like
they take, they take good things

754
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,680
that kind of they take things
that put them in other shows to

755
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,040
kind of they kind of make you
make get, get you give me things

756
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,520
you're familiar with so that you
can you can kind of be curious

757
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,320
about other things.
The movie was Dark City.

758
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,920
It was Rufus Sewell, Ava
Sutherland, Jennifer Connelly,

759
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:10,920
William Hurt.
Fantastic movie.

760
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,800
If we do choices, that's going
to be one of my choices for us

761
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,360
to watch.
It's a good movie, OK?

762
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,720
All right.
Well.

763
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,560
I yeah, this is yeah, this is a
great episode.

764
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,400
I cannot wait for the next one.
I really, and I'm I'm getting

765
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,400
ready to start campaigning for
for Howard the Duck movie.

766
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,360
I don't care.
I'm getting it.

767
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,840
He's going, he's going to, he's
going to run casinos and he's

768
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,520
going to be the hero and it's
going to be two hours and 45

769
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,520
minutes.
I am campaigning.

770
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,320
I'm actually going to start
writing this now as soon as we

771
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,400
get off here.
So go ahead and close this out.

772
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,440
And on that note, that is it for
our show.

773
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,200
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774
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:57,280
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775
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,760
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776
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,760
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777
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,920
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778
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,800
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779
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,520
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